[00:00] Very true! [00:01] Has anyone installed Slackware on Eeepc? [00:02] a few hae, i think spook is the resident guru on that [00:03] kleanchap: i've got slack 13 running on two eeepc 900hd's [00:04] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:04] woo hoo...nyRednek, I have 1005HA. I will try to install it on that now. [00:05] how do you get it on the drive in the first place? [00:05] mancha: unetbootin [00:05] is that to make a bootable thumbdrive? [00:05] nyRednek, OMG, There are rednecks in NY....;-) [00:05] kleanchap: from arkansas, live in NYC [00:06] mancha: that it is [00:06] Just one. [00:06] The rest are Canucks. [00:06] ;-) [00:06] slackwarebob: as in upstream, no. [00:06] nyRednek, :-) I was just kidding though. [00:06] rworkman: that's right, just one...me [00:06] brb [00:07] kleanchap: not offended... [00:07] do all thumbdrives play nice with unetbootin or do you need special ones? [00:07] mancha: for the slack dvd, i suggest a 4gb one [00:07] mancha: i haven't seen an issue [00:08] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:08] how does the bios recognize a unetbootin flashdrive? as a usb mass storage device (aka hard drive)? [00:08] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:08] mancha: yeah [00:08] ok, so it'll only work on bioses that have boot-from-usb capability [00:08] mancha: sometimes you gotta play with the bios [00:09] mancha: yeah... [00:09] mancha: i haven't seen an eeepc that doesn't [00:10] yeah, i was extrapolating to other hw, as in this method will work so long as the bios supports boot from usb [00:10] mancha: right [00:10] there used to be way to trick the bioses that didn't have that or maybe i misremember [00:11] mancha: the issue with eeepc i've seen...you MUST go into bios setup with the thumb drive plugged in and set the usb hd first, then immediately reboot from the usb hd [00:13] TriniTuX (n=chatzill@cuscon125663.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [00:15] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:15] best gift ever....AMMO! [00:15] :> [00:16] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-196.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [00:18] no-name (n=edward@115.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:19] is there another way to edit the sudo file without visudo? visudo's vi doesn't let me go up or down through the file for some reason so [00:19] fhobia: not really [00:19] rats [00:19] sure [00:20] just use vi or nano or whatever [00:20] As long as you are the only one editing it and you don't screw it up it will be fine. [00:20] You can use hjkl to move lines. [00:20] fhobia: on 13.0 or -current? [00:20] left/down/up/right [00:21] nyRednek ah ok, so it's not on the menu unless you it's plugged in. gotcha. [00:21] rworkman: 13.0, zsh, rxvt-unicode [00:22] fhobia: rebuild sudo using the build script from -current, and then you can do: EDITOR=pico visudo [00:22] phobia, use any editor on /etc/sudoers [00:22] oh, vi seems messed up overall in my terminals [00:22] now vim works fine [00:22] but vi is all messed up [00:23] hjkl doesn't move around?? [00:23] or are you trying to use arrow keys? [00:23] no, any key just scrolls down [00:23] also vi just shows the first line [00:23] capslock? [00:23] no-name (n=edward@115.60.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [00:23] as i press any key, it scrolls down [00:23] no caps lock [00:23] vim works fine but vi doesn't :-P [00:23] real weird... [00:23] hrm... I've seen that, but I don't recalll what causedit. Memory says it was something braindead I did :/ [00:24] elvis had a bad period, the obese & high episode [00:24] haha [00:25] oh shit [00:25] its screen [00:25] i mean, oh shazzzz [00:26] yeah, confirmed, screen and vi aren't playing nice [00:28] mancha: if you must SCREEN, use EMACS [00:29] http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover [00:29] ah [00:29] fhobia: TERM=linux [00:29] oops, false alarm, i opened a bash script that WAS a 1-liner and i was thnking "it only shows the first line" [00:29] heh [00:29] I've found that TERM=linux offers the best compatibility regardless of what terminal emulator, host system, etcetera I use [00:30] yes that and vt100 are my choices usually [00:30] Re that link I just posted, that shouldhelp anyone who shows up fussing about upgrading to -current and having a !working system [00:30] there's some super funkiness with ircii and screen on slack, i forget the details now. [00:31] rworkman: yeah, that works hmm... [00:32] so the reason i was doing that was to give a user the ability to run "eject" [00:32] theres not another trick like being in some cdrom group right ? [00:33] my users can eject [00:33] [in bed] [00:34] i think the plugdev group allows that [00:34] i just want to eject in linux [00:34] magic jack is so gay [00:34] there's a wrapper too to not give them full privs, i forget what it was [00:34] that's it, eject all over linux. You can do it with users or root [00:35] hmm ok, root can do it, but users get: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device [00:35] wrong hole [00:35] i'm inserting a paper clip in the hole right now to get it to eject [00:35] did you wrap the clip in latex? [00:35] don't be so direct about it [00:36] nah, raw clip [00:36] i had to bend it a bit though [00:36] sheepskin? [00:36] Nick change: mrpwnage -> mrselfpwn_ [00:36] mancha: he said raw...it doesn't matter if a paper clip gets herpes [00:37] never mind, the wrapper i was thinking of was pmount [00:37] and if a paper clip does the job, you don't want your junk to get ripped by that hole [00:38] Nick change: mrselfpwn_ -> mrselfpwn [00:39] i'm worried that after a while though sticking this into the hole is not going to work anymore [00:42] so how can you tell whether eject requires some sort've group? you just have to read the code or can you just look at the permissions of "eject" ? [00:43] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] fhobia: it's either cdrom or plugdev [00:44] my regular user is in both, but it doesn't work [00:44] did you cycle the login after adding them to the groups? [00:44] looks like i've been in these groups for a long time [00:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] i don't remember adding myself to them [00:45] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] fhobia: maybe the cdrom is still mounted? [00:46] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [00:46] it needs to be unmounted before an eject event will work from the user [00:47] and unmount will only work if nothing is cd'ed onto there or a program is running from there [00:48] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [00:48] well, it was an audio cd [00:48] td123 (n=tom@adsl-70-131-148-164.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] i never mounted it [00:48] or a program is accessing data from there [00:48] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [00:50] udev rocks :-D [00:50] hope "disk/by-id" is stable [00:50] seems so [00:50] I use disk by ID [00:52] td123 (n=tom@adsl-70-131-148-164.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:58] hmm - mirrors.tds.net not allowing rsync anymore? started getting 'connection refused' tonight [00:59] alisonken1noc: tds mirrors were down yesterday, here anyway. [00:59] maybe still having issues. [00:59] well, it's pingable, just not rsync-able [01:00] and the website is up [01:00] alisonken1noc: last night it wasn't pingable at all. [01:00] alisonken1noc: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/fEuIQX90.html [01:00] interesting their news page only shows work from november [01:00] rsync -av --log-file=/home2/www/ftp/slackware/log/rsync-slackware64-current.log --bwlimit=2048 rsync://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/slackware/slackware64-current /home2/www/ftp/slackware [01:00] rsync: failed to connect to slackware.mirrors.tds.net: Connection refused (111) [01:00] [01:01] alisonken1noc: note that in rsync mirrors.tds.net:: slackware doesn't seem to show up as an rsyncable module [01:02] yep - something must have changed since last night [01:02] julioc|zzz (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [01:03] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:04] that's gonna suck [01:04] arcfide (i=arcfide@fl-76-2-118-230.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:05] I've got a mirror setup here with iso build capabilties that I've been testing and rsyncing to them. right now, the only thing lacking is the webpage and ftp setup [01:07] alisonken1noc, finally got that raid1/lvm + grub2 / xen working man [01:07] it was a simple stupid initrd i had forgotten in lilo.conf in the beginning hahahah [01:07] cool [01:07] i had done it on the other box and i totally forgot to do it on this [01:08] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [01:09] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-63.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:10] if you try drogs try MDA [01:11] not MDMA [01:11] ;) [01:11] yep - initrd's are sometime not on the top of the mind [01:11] huhuhuhuhahahahahhahaha [01:11] ;) [01:11] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] studies show men think about initrd's once every 5 minutes and women think about initrd's 10 times per day [01:12] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:12] cocaine is 40 times a day , mda is 1 time a day [01:12] lol [01:12] :) [01:13] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:14] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] Hello, looking at the downloadable cd's.. Do I need to have all the cd's or can I use the 1st one and run a net install? [01:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:15] huhuhuh , live portugal , live spain :=) [01:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zKuVeIMQXY&NR=1 [01:16] confusid: cd 4,5,6 are the source cd's you don't really need those. [01:17] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:18] how do you set a TERM variable from command prompt? i'm getting eterm-color command not found error [01:18] ty.. other then slackware.org is there anothere how too? [01:18] export TERM=blah [01:19] mancha: ok, thanks [01:19] np [01:19] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:19] (i assumed a bash prompt - safe these days) [01:19] methylenedyoxymetaANPHETAMINE [01:20] HUHUHUUHUHUHUH [01:20] hahahahahha [01:20] timahvo1 (n=Ken@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-63.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [01:22] confusid: howto for what again? [01:22] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-63.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:22] First attempt at slackware :) [01:24] did you try reading the slackbook? http://slackbook.org/ [01:24] happy new year [01:24] it's good for beginning linux as well as beginning slackware [01:24] slackware for 3 years [01:24] sorry for my bad english [01:24] ok - first attempt AND slackware for 3 years? :) [01:25] Will read that.. wasn't sure where to start [01:25] hehe [01:25] sorry - that was ck1g3r - doh [01:25] ty for the direction [01:25] no problem [01:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI2Hpf-mx6M&feature=related [01:26] as far as the cd's go, the only ones you really need for local install are cd1/2, cd3 if you want kde [01:26] huuuuuhuhuahahahah [01:26] im high today [01:26] lol [01:26] as noted, cd4/5/6 are just sources that were used [01:26] the dvd has all 6 cd's on one dvd [01:27] admasnd (n=amason6@adsl-75-21-64-117.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] if you want to help the project, a subscription that's currently $35US + shipping for the dvd always helps - and the charge is only when shipped [01:27] admasnd (n=amason6@adsl-75-24-145-138.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:35] psychicist (n=psychici@j0175.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:35] does anyone here read alot of DC comics? [01:36] theres one that i cant remember the name of that my friend had told me about [01:36] used to many moons ago while I was in the navy [01:36] its basically the end of the DC universe [01:36] i think vertigo-DC published it [01:36] anyone from uk [01:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJnodd-z34s [01:36] like, all of the old heros have retired [01:36] lisbon portugallllllll [01:36] and a bunch of noob "heros" are ruining the world [01:36] :) [01:36] superman just hangs out in a holodeck in antarctica of a farm [01:37] and the green lantern just hangs out in a floating emerald fortress over the earth [01:37] psychicist (n=psychici@j0175.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware. [01:37] batman is retired, and his robots protect gothem [01:37] the flash never stops moving [01:37] etc [01:37] ring a bell? [01:37] huhuhuhuuhuhuh hahahhahhhah [01:37] :) [01:38] no - that was after I stopped reading the comics due to lack of time [01:38] although I vaguely remember the DC Universe end getting talked about [01:39] alisonken1noc: yeah, i remember a kid showing it to me on the bus to school a few years ago [01:39] a fanatic of mdma :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYIhARDljJ0&feature=related [01:39] i just cant remember the name of it [01:39] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:43] the beste portuguese dj [01:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsY-boyreVg [01:43] of techno , house music [01:43] I think the last one I read was Batman v. Superman [01:46] the best psytrance dj in pt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of-0BfJ-_JQ [01:46] and ocelot :) [01:47] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:47] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [01:48] im portuguese but is a grey psytrance dj [01:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52j9PzSdT4E&feature=related [01:49] portugal [01:49] portugal/spain [01:49] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-226-221.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] peninsula iberica [01:49] :) [01:50] Hello People. [01:50] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [01:51] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [01:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:55] portugal , and the best psytrance festival :) [01:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXjGBwb0WRE&feature=related [01:55] this year , BOOM FESTIVAL [01:56] PORTUGAL [01:57] alright, found it! [01:57] its called "Kingdom Come" [01:58] /co/ helped me out on 4chan [01:58] of all places [01:58] this place is foR PEACE [01:59] If i use bittorant to download the dvd.. is that safe as long as i use the md5 agenst it? [02:00] bittorent is safe as long as you start with a valid torrent. the md5 should be compared against the md5 of a good slackware mirror when done [02:00] regardless of torrent/ftp/httpd/rsync [02:00] ty [02:01] l0lwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] lolwut (n=lolwut@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] yarvin (n=yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:05] has anyone here installed guake on slack 13? [02:05] yarvin (n=yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] anyone suggest a better alternative than http://www.nomachine.com/ ? [02:07] NX server [02:09] im portuguese , but is the best psytrance dj kindzadza [02:09] jeev: i think it is just going to depend on your needs. [02:09] a russian psytrancedj [02:09] i live by ultravnc at work. [02:10] in my modesy opinion [02:10] and i have a script to make it so that only a certain windows group can actually use a viewer and access a machine. [02:10] modest [02:12] does anyone here know ruby? [02:13] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:13] isn't she working 42nd street? [02:13] indeed [02:13] does she give good head [02:14] i've heard about this other one, but the python in her pants makes me hesitant [02:14] for general scripting (head, which one would you reccomend? [02:16] alisonken1noc: which avenue? [02:16] Reticenti: my preference is Python despite what Camerade_Tux thinks [02:16] otherwise, bash scripts depending on what you want to do [02:17] nyRednek: 42nd and Main maybe? [02:17] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:17] 6th avenue? [02:17] alisonken1noc: manhattan doesn't have a "main" that i know of [02:18] nyRednek: I'm not in Manhattan - I'm in L.A. [02:18] :) [02:19] nor does brooklyn, that i'm aware of [02:21] me , some where [02:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJv0bUCLNQs [02:21] lol [02:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:21] boom festival [02:21] psytrance music [02:22] evora portugal [02:23] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:28] ok, the goal of the night is: [02:28] do nto su or sudo while drunk [02:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bylqoLy-xac&feature=related [02:28] not* [02:28] lol [02:29] and stay the fuck away from rm [02:29] portuguese psytrance dj... [02:30] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:31] Reticenti: then you are safe doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/ ;) [02:31] lf4: dont tempt me :P [02:32] Reticenti: You should try it, lol very interesting what happens. I've done it before XD [02:32] actually, i'm still typing pretty well, i need to do more shots lol [02:32] i would, but i dont have an iso to install in virtual box [02:33] Haha lame doing it to a VM you have to do it to the host system. [02:33] hahah [02:33] if i ever want to reinstall, i'll do that =D (i'll unmount /home ofc) [02:33] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:34] lol [02:35] I don't think dd will follow mount points since you're pointing it to a device, but it might be interesting to try :) [02:35] If I buy a $LANGUAGE_CLOSE_EN keyboard, will it act like a US one under the default keymap jibbery-joo? [02:36] alisonken1noc: You're right, Shhhhh... ;) [02:36] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] hi. Im trying to get cgi-bin to work. I have added entry for it in httpd.conf but I get this error: You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/ on this server. [02:37] what am I doing wrong? probably something I forgot [02:37] you have to also make sure the directory and file are executable [02:37] you forgot to stand on your head :3 [02:38] chmod +x / [02:38] file=cgi-bin file [02:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVtLvTzcV6g&NR=1 [02:38] alisonken1noc: I dont have any file in it yet. but the directory have 777 [02:38] well my freinds. i put in the motorwarmer in my trustwotyt volvo [02:38] Kowalczyk: also, look at th e cgi-bin directive for allowing cgi-bin executable directory [02:38] or I have files in it. they are also 777 [02:39] and fuck you if you dare me! [02:39] there's a couple of steps in there - enable cgi-bin, and also explicitly set executable permission in section [02:39] fridim_ (n=fridim@home.fridim.org) joined ##slackware. [02:39] ok. but I should only define cgi-bin in http.conf? and not it httpd-vhost ? [02:39] or? [02:39] i weell m [02:39] y knife is [02:40] it's in the config file of the apache instance that's running [02:40] or since I have directory in httpd-vhost.conf I probably have to enable it there? [02:40] close ahead.. [02:40] fuc you polish assholes! [02:40] matu (n=matu@client80-83-42-119.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:40] fuck off! [02:40] alisonken1noc: Options +ExecCGI probably this?:) [02:40] darth_mohl: might want to be carefull unless you're looking to get banned [02:41] Kowalczyk: looks about right [02:41] I'd have to check again since it's been a while [02:41] alisonken1sorry, that wasnt my intent [02:41] ok :) I havent done this before:) [02:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:41] but I probably have to make a documentroot for the cgi-bin right? [02:42] I believe it's just an alias pointing to the cgi-bin directory [02:42] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [02:42] i just like fucker to step on my .. yeaa :-) [02:42] ok... [02:43] but neverhhe [02:43] less. my father is aching from a lung decese What can i say, it's horrible! [02:44] darth_mohl: settle. [02:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B22BMk6hsI [02:45] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] actually, i have to close this window not to seeing this. Sorry my friends! [02:45] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] som [02:45] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:45] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [02:45] sorry for my fathers bad keyboard! :-) [02:46] alisonken1lap2 (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [02:46] alisonken1lap2 (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:46] chopp: Hows it going? [02:46] Seems that the DNS is worse. [02:46] er, damn. [02:46] Ruined a good insult. [02:46] morning rworkman [02:47] hey hey [02:47] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]" [02:47] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.212) left irc: "Leaving" [02:47] I'm too used to typing "DNS" instead of "DNA" here. [02:47] hehe [02:47] rworkman, have any idea what the difference between freenx and nomachine's nxserver is ? [02:48] jeev: I don't; never used either. I think alienBOB uses one or the other though [02:48] yea i know [02:48] i've used http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/i-absolutely-utterly-give-up-nx-481050/page3.html in the past but im lost [02:48] I'm lucky. I have exactly *one* Windows machine that I have to admin. The rest are unix :) [02:49] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/freenx/ [02:49] how come that's not published on slackbuilds ? [02:49] po-rtugalllll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkhMyfFKCko&feature=related boom festival :( [02:49] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:49] Probably because he's have to maintain two copies of it then [02:49] jeev: admins want to vet a package before they put it on slackbuilds [02:50] i see [02:50] I'm pretty sure the script is just fine (it's Eric after all), but it's not in an acceptable format for SBo, so he's have to maintain two versions of it. [02:50] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:51] http://www.boomfestival.org/boom2010/ [02:51] ckt1g3r: enough [02:51] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [02:51] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:52] afk for a bit - reboot to 2.6.32.3 :) [02:54] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) joined ##slackware. [02:54] 2.6.32.3 ? how it perform ? [02:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [02:56] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-216.dial.telus.net) left irc: No route to host [02:57] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Axius (n=fim@92.82.95.160) joined ##slackware. [02:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsLzxl9bxQk [02:59] espanã [02:59] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.75.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] heheheh [02:59] can't forget 1st youtube movies with CoreBoot[LinuxBIOS at that time] with X11 and DE inside Mobo flash ;) [03:00] huhuhuhuhuhahahaha [03:01] penisnsula iberica [03:01] ;) [03:02] Heh. I wonder which machine I *did* run lilo on, because it was *not* this one. [03:02] lol [03:02] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [03:02] rworkman: turns out that extra blue bar I had in irssi was from adv_windowlist. :) [03:02] That was fun though. Nothing beats having to find a usb stick, dd the installer onto it, and then doing a nice recovery boot of LUKS on LVM :) [03:03] fire|bird: ah [03:03] ckt1g3r: that's enough off-topic links, please. [03:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [03:03] brbrbr: 2.6.32.2 has been fine here, and .3 has one bugfix that I'm hoping is what I've been seeing here [03:04] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [03:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-226.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] hey fire|bird [03:05] hi [03:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] hey fire|bird [03:05] how were your holidays? [03:05] Action: byteframe just bought 10 identical keyboards for 30 bucks... [03:06] Holidays went well. [03:06] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: "patches" [03:07] byteframe: are you going to make a SUPERBOARD [03:08] Nope. But I'm not gonna worry about spilling stuff in it anymore! [03:08] Have a rack of keyboards on the wall, in a square formation, would look cool. [03:08] if i had that many keyboards, i change a few of them to different layouts, like have a qwerty keyboard, a dvorak keyboard, a c++ keyborad that doesn't acre if you bang it against hard objects.... [03:09] /s/acre/break* [03:09] Can one isolate a keyboard to, I quess a seperate X display? [03:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:09] alisonken1lap: thanks:) I got it to work:d [03:10] hey Reticenti [03:10] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:10] Reticenti: What problems/questions do you have today? :P [03:10] fire|bird: none! [03:10] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Reticenti: WHAT? :P [03:11] none, nada, zip, nothing? [03:11] fire|bird: though, i did mess up my lilo the other day, but i jsut popped in the slakc dvd and booted off of that, then reinstalled lilo [03:11] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] i didnt even have to ask anyone how to do that [03:12] though... [03:12] haha [03:12] i did think that my dvd drive was broke, but it just wasnt plugged in correctly [03:14] (i have to unplug my /home hdd to plug in my dvd drive) [03:15] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] "Since then, C has evolved considerably: it has even changed its name, to C++." [03:16] hahahahahahaha [03:16] http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~grogono/CourseNotes/COMP-446-Notes.pdf [03:16] Kowalczyk: good [03:18] timahvo1 (n=Ken@41.191.224.178) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:20] lol : offtopic , i dont like portuguese/brasilian music [03:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6lsODlyEdU [03:21] ml4711 (n=morten@80.161.127.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] but im a fucking portuguese man [03:21] :) [03:21] likin gSlackware Linux [03:21] :D [03:22] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] today im high sorry my stone [03:22] looooçl [03:23] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [03:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:32] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [03:36] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-226.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:41] anyone here in slack now get the speed test showing/working ? http://www.giganews.com/performance.html [03:41] i wonder if it's flash [03:42] oh it is flash [03:43] packeteer (n=zed@203.36.227.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:46] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [03:52] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-170-35-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. 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I have a different policy for my packages that conflicts with the SBo policy [05:23] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:38] /time [05:40] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.91.5) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] Delahunt (n=robert@fd213-235.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:51] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Nick change: theblackerbox -> theblackbox [06:00] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.63.48) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.217.207) joined ##slackware. [06:02] patrick05 (n=chatzill@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:02] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [06:05] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:08] alienBOB, and what is the opinion of pat about that ? [06:09] Dumbix: what are you talking about [06:09] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:09] alienBOB, he is saying that no matter what go's on pat has an opinion and you know about it [06:10] oobe: I asked Dumbix [06:10] sorry couldnt resist [06:11] alienBOB, or is pat agreed your slackbuild policy or maybe he prefer the one slackbuilds.org ? [06:11] Dumbix: Pat has nothing to do with my SlackBuilds, whyc should he? [06:12] Usually when one of mine gets added to Slackware, I edit it to comform to Slackware, Inc. standards (which are again different from my own or SBo's) [06:12] And sometimes, a SlackBuild of mine gets added without any modification [06:12] alienBOB, because you are one of the leaders of his project [06:13] alienBOB, ok [06:13] alienBOB, and do you think that SBo's policy are different from Slackware standards ? [06:14] matu (n=matu@client80-83-42-119.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [06:15] guax (n=guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [06:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hpgdjuthsxxokpwz) joined ##slackware. [06:18] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [06:19] Dumbix: what I have in slackware.com/~alien is mine and not official Slackware [06:20] Dumbix: the format of a Slackware script is a bit different from that in a SBo script [06:20] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [06:20] But of course, they all work to produce a good package [06:20] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.63.48) joined ##slackware. [06:20] hi guys [06:21] i had a cronjob go nuts yesterday and i'm wondering if just nicing crond should be enough to prevent that from killing the system again [06:21] alienBOB, alright ! thank you for answering [06:22] it was failing to connect to its database and pegged the load average at 120 before i noticed it [06:22] and there were like 30 copies running [06:23] only ever having 1 instance of the job running at a time would be the correct fix, but i haven't figured out how to do that [06:23] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [06:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:25] yeah you can do that (set only having 1 instance of the job running) in part by staggering their run time (editing cron job and adding "sleep 15m" or so into the script) [06:26] that and unless you absolutely need slocate / updatedb (i.e. if you organize your ~) you can disable that one [06:26] but there are lots of options [06:26] my favorite option is to edit the init scripts and cron jobs to not run fsck (init) or not run at all (cron) when not on AC power (i.e. when on battery) [06:27] Thom1 (n=thom1@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-240-237.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] hi [06:27] this script is the mailbox reader for OTRS and for whatever reason, it was failing to connect to mysql, but it wasn't exiting and the script is run every 15 mins [06:28] sorry for my probably idiot question, but is there a slackbuild for kernel-headers ? d/kernel-headers has only slack-desc [06:28] alienBOB, ping 8-) [06:28] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.217.207) left irc: "Leaving" [06:28] i haven't looked thru the code to see what happened yet, but if everything is nice, then even if it goes nuts, it won't peg the cpu [06:29] Thom1, check kernels/ directory iirc (or source/) [06:29] Skywise, maybe put a timer into the script or some other scripting so that if it doesn't successfully update it kills itself after, say, 2 minutes [06:30] or begin the script with killall whateveritis [06:30] Delahunt, nothing in kernels/ and source/d/kernel-headers exists with only a slack-desc [06:30] lol [06:30] that would be one way [06:30] i'll have to see what the hangup is, just getting the script to exit when it fails might be enough [06:31] i think there is a way using a script to run a child process but putting the PID in a .run file in /var/run or so, so that if it is not successful or after a 2 minute timer, kill it [06:31] also, check options on the program being run, see if it has a "give up after __ # tries" option, etc [06:32] well thats odd, it does create a pid lock [06:33] what program is this? [06:33] (if you don't mind) [06:33] sorry [06:33] Thom1 (n=thom1@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-240-237.adsl.proxad.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [06:33] OTRS its an open source trouble ticket management system [06:34] and its the PostMasterMailbox.pl script that went nuts [06:35] hmm perl eh? [06:36] maybe talk to the developers and possible #perl on how to make a program kill itself (or add the option to) after certain # tries etc [06:36] check man PostMasterMailbox.pl etc for info [06:36] i just read the source code, theres not alot to it [06:36] but they do have logic for managing pid locks, but it might not work [06:38] you may have found a bug, congratulations! [06:38] check their bug reporting system to see if it's been reported [06:39] goarilla_ (n=goarilla@109.44-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [06:39] yeah, looking thru the logs, it wasn't behaving as it should [06:40] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.217.207) joined ##slackware. [06:40] mel0n (n=jshanch@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:40] it should of sent a notice about the pid lock, and didn't for either case [06:44] oh ok, it was a library call that was hung up in creating the pid lock [06:45] unixfool (n=OU812@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: "Served by X-Chat Aqua" [06:45] anyone know how to start the game called Rogue? I installed it as root using installpkg and typed rogue and bash says it's not on the machine. I've tried googling and forums with no results. [06:46] where are kde logs? or does it just write to Xorg.0.log? [06:46] make sure its in your search path, and try logging out and back in [06:46] it's somehow managed to die on me =/ [06:47] it says that is in /usr/games [06:47] try looking on the text console you started it from [06:47] ok, then try /usr/games/rouge [06:47] er rogue [06:47] kk [06:47] rouge is another game entirely :) [06:48] Action: theblackbox was unimpressed from the start and might just xfce it up .... less gumph [06:49] it says not a file or directory. [06:50] well, try listing the directory and see if you can find the path to the bin [06:51] k. Does it matter if I'm running 13.0 and it came from 10.0? [06:52] shouldn't [06:52] kk. I'll try the path [06:54] then you can add the path to your profile [06:55] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [06:57] nothing in bin or usr/bin [06:57] ok, type updatedb;locate -r /rogue$ [07:00] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:03] techwonder_ (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:04] that wasn't too good. I detached irssi from screen and couldn't get it to reattach. Anyway, I did the command and it still tells me while trying to run rogue that it isn't there. Must not have installed or something. [07:05] updatedb can take a while to run [07:05] its building a database of the files on your system so that locate can search it [07:05] it wouldn't let me run it until I became root. [07:05] yes [07:06] but you might have to install the package as root as well [07:06] k. I just learned something new but I guess that's why I'm here:) [07:06] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [07:06] I installed it as root. [07:06] i had figured thats what you had done, you can prolly compile and install it as a user tho [07:07] Sorry, just moved to Slack from Ubuntu so I'm not too up on compileing. [07:07] its easy enough really [07:07] compiling [07:07] kk [07:07] just make sure to install diskset d [07:08] that has the compilers [07:08] I did the full DVD install. [07:08] ok [07:09] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [07:09] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:09] sorry, I'm kindof excited to learn how to do this. [07:10] theres usually a readme or install file with the source that should tell you what you need and what to do [07:10] and that will be inside the tarball I downloaded? [07:11] yes [07:12] searching now for the command options... [07:12] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [07:12] tar xfz if its tgz or tar.gz tar xfj if its bz2 or tar.bz [07:15] oops. I did tar -zxvpf and it put some extra directories in my Download directory like /usr and /bin. [07:17] you can always use t to see what the files names are [07:17] I ran it again with your switches and this is what I got: tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory [07:18] it is a .gz file by the way. [07:18] tar -ztf [07:18] k. we'll try that. [07:19] that will list the files in the archive [07:19] that worked [07:19] I have the list [07:20] seems like you download the binary package and its installed [07:20] see if it runs [07:20] kk [07:20] -bash: /usr/games/rogue: No such file or directory [07:21] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [07:21] I had problems yesterday with kernel 2.6.32.2 and proprietary ATi drivers, anyone else had those? [07:23] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:26] gtludwig, im using slackware current and just updated using slackpkg was wondering if you are still using 13 stable and the update apply's to you also [07:26] sorry i dont have an answer about ati [07:26] Action: Delahunt now refuses to buy laptops with nvidia or ati cards [07:27] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:27] whats wrong with nvidia on laptops [07:27] oobe, hehe! no biggie! I just wanted to share this info so others won't loose an afternoon like I did [07:27] i assumed it would be just as easy as desktops [07:27] i cant believe i finally downloaded slackware and then found out it was 64bit... oh well only 2.1gb left of 32bit ver. [07:27] gtludwig, are you using slackware current [07:28] oobe, not anymore... running 64-13.0 here [07:28] oh ok [07:28] that answers my question [07:28] i used mirror-slackware-current.sh to make an iso for this install [07:29] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:29] you could just rsync with slackware-current and use the directions in ISO (iirc) [07:29] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:29] that's what i did for quite a while [07:29] I normally rsync the tree and install via an usb key [07:29] no script necessary: the "growisofs" command does everything (iirc) [07:29] cool [07:29] oh yeah?! well i manually write the inodes to a fork with a magnet! 8-D [07:30] way faster this way [07:30] i want to one day edit the install to add a lot of my own packages anyone know about docs on that [07:30] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:31] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [07:32] gtludwig, USB stick install can be pretty dang easy [07:33] it is =) [07:33] i have 512MB, 1GB, and 2GB image files for this (i may make them publicly available soon) [07:33] make by alienBOB 's script of course [07:33] hello... nss_ldap 265 won't build on slackware64 13... can someone help? it says vers_string: command not found and it won't make.. i don't use svc - perhaps a problem in source? [07:34] just have to be carefull not to dd the usbboot.img to an external hdd and loose all the data - like I did :p [07:35] so whats the current fs flavor of the day? [07:35] gtludwig, or the local hard drive [07:35] Skywise, ext4 [07:35] Delahunt, right on! [07:35] Skywise, I use ext4 too, no complaints [07:35] i like reiserfs, it recovers nicely after an unclean shut down [07:35] i haven't tried ext4 yet [07:35] but i'm building a cluster of 4 servers [07:36] so i'm in the planning phase [07:36] ext4 works fine here [07:36] just remember though that ANY FS that is fast uses caching in ram, which means also that they are all prone to unclean shutdown problems depending on how much they cache [07:36] but i don't wanna have to fsck the whole drive in order to recover, especially on a raid array which is gonna reconstruct at the same time [07:37] question... I've a new server I need to run tomcat on... what's the best approach, create an tomcar user to run tomcat or run as root? [07:37] people try point out the supposed XFS "bug" of unclean shutdown but it exists on ALL FS that cache lots of info to the RAM [07:37] there is some people complaining about ext4, one thing is not writing to the journal often enough [07:37] make a user [07:37] never run services as root [07:37] ext4 used delayed writing in an effort to hopefully prevent fragmentation [07:37] Skywise, thought so. [07:37] yeah, i've heard about the journaling issue [07:38] the only real way to know if a FS is truly stable is to run tests anyways [07:38] or you could use the daemon:daemon [07:38] yeah, i'll prolly have to do some comparisons [07:38] if the journal is not written and you have a dirty umount due to whatever reason you could lose data on the next boot [07:38] creating an user is easy, but how can I say this or that user runs this or that service [07:38] one thing i'm pretty sure i'm not gonna run vms either [07:39] but that would mean things like start running a kernel compile then shut the power off half way and then check for integrity at start-up but that's just silly because then you're really introducing the problem you want to avoid [07:39] I've always used linux as my workstation not as a sysadmin [07:39] you just configure the app to run as a certain user, or call it from a user acct [07:39] i ran some real world FS tests using the few things I do that actually tax my computer and found that ext4 works best for me [07:39] but run your own tests [07:40] i am sticking with ext3 for another year to let the ext4 developers iron the wrinkles out better [07:40] what was it like after an unclean shutdown, i hate having to run fsck -y [07:40] oh, i know i can't use ext3 on raid, i lost 250gb from that once [07:40] fsck runs automatically on boot [07:41] yeah, but its gotta touch the whole drive [07:41] thats the problem [07:41] found solution for nss_ldap - it's a bug in source.. should be fixed in version 266 [07:42] when i reboot reiserfs, it checks the last 5 transactions and cleans up in moments [07:43] have you tried jfs ? [07:43] i fsckin hate fsck [07:43] no, i've only read about it [07:43] well i for one know how it is to try something in Linux land that is declared stable only to find problems that point to it not being stable, but ext4 hasn't disappointed yet [07:43] why not just boot with an initrd that links up RAID and LVM? [07:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFS_%28file_system%29#JFS_in_Linux [07:44] i'm not crazy about lvm, it seems like a nice way to really screw things up [07:44] the only benefit i can see in JFS is CPU usage but i think i remember reading that the gap in CPU usage saved JFS versus ext* is marginal at best and only noticed when resources count [07:44] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] but thats when it would matter most [07:45] i actually love LVM. at first it was a pain and i was very unhappy using an initrd, but now i'm over it [07:45] no, i'm talking only noticed when resources count like 99% of all CPUs being used [07:45] i'm talking servers. [07:45] to be honest, i don't have a good road map for how i'm gonna manage this cluster [07:45] but it was something i read [07:46] this is what i read about jfs i dont like: JFS journals metadata only, which means that metadata will remain consistent but user files may be corrupted after a crash or power loss. JFS' journaling is similar to XFS where it only journals parts of the inode [07:46] home users only notice things in relative terms. "it feels faster" [07:46] some of that could be placebo effect [07:46] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) joined ##slackware. [07:46] i was thinking about bootp with an image server, or some other nonsense [07:46] hi, all. where is sysctl on slack [07:46] sysctl.conf [07:46] slocate sysctl.conf [07:46] try /etc, or use locate [07:46] yeah [07:46] /usr/man/man5/sysctl.conf.5.gz [07:46] er nevermind lolz [07:46] mac- (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:46] :) [07:47] that's the only one?! :o [07:47] what is different with locate and slocate [07:47] the spelling [07:47] they're same thing really [07:47] i still dont see what i need [07:47] i want to save ip forwarding [07:48] slocate respects file permissions and ownership [07:50] how can i save the ipforwarding to be true [07:50] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:51] i'm sure theres a iptables script for dumping the rules [07:51] like iptables-save or is that redhat [07:52] no, you should have it [07:52] i dont mind that ipforwardind is realted with iptables [07:52] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [07:53] ipforward is obsolete, thats with ipchains [07:53] you can forward with iptables [07:53] /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [07:53] how to set this value to be always 1 [07:54] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [07:54] x1user: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward [07:55] in my rc.local now is "sh rc.ip_forward start" can i do that [07:56] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:56] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:56] on my slack 12.0 it's in rc.inet2 [07:56] which tests the x perm of rc.ip_forward [07:57] rc.local is executed at start up [07:57] i use slack 13 [07:57] actually, everything in /etc/rc.d/ thats +x should be executed at startup [07:57] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [07:58] why rc.ip_forward is not +x [07:58] thrice`: hey there [07:58] because it should not be enabled by default [07:58] I just tested with -m ext3 only and doesn't work [07:58] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] x1user: setting +x is your choice [07:58] i chmod +x it [07:58] you don't usually enable forwarding by default, only when its used as a gateway off your lan [07:58] and leave it in rc.local without the sh [07:59] i will see if it works now [07:59] if you're machine is just a node on a network, then you don't need forwarding [07:59] if your [07:59] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:00] my kernel fails to boot with: mount: mounting /dev/sda3 on /mnt failed: Invalid argument [08:00] wokrs now [08:02] Delahunt (n=robert@fd213-235.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [08:02] any suggestions? [08:03] rights may be? [08:04] Kaapa: where in the boot stage is that? [08:04] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Zordrak: I'm not sure if I know how to answer that [08:05] it's immediatly after loading the initrd [08:05] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] anyone know what you can use the 4th and 5th button for on a 5 button mouse besides back and forward on internet browsing [08:06] oobe: I used them to switch virtual desktops too [08:06] like ctl alt f8 etc. [08:06] no [08:06] in X environment [08:07] oh like kde has 4 desktops [08:07] does that interfere with other functions [08:07] just open the control manager and define whatever you want [08:07] like if you were using ff and wanted to go back and forward [08:08] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:08] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] so.. is the error produced by the initrd? or the kernel?.. what /immediately/ precedes the error? [08:09] Nick change: guax -> astbot [08:09] Nick change: astbot -> guax [08:10] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5494.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Zordrak: checking in 1 sec, it's booting [08:10] anyone noticing a longer than usual shutdown time when fail2ban init script is stopping ? [08:11] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:11] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:11] Zordrak: PM: Starting manual resume from disk [08:12] (I have hibernation configured, but this is a normal boot) [08:13] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:13] >.< ... haw is it a normal boot if its trying to resume from disk (aka hibernation) ? [08:14] I usually see that message on every boot [08:15] but I can turn off that option for now [08:15] http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2795981/Supernova-may-wipe-out-the-Earth.html not sure how legit this is [08:15] nonetheless it would /appear/ that its trying to resume from hibernate, that the hibernate partition is set to /dev/sda3 and that its failing to do so [08:15] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "ops..." [08:15] Pig_Pen: im guessing not very [08:16] shyko (n=shyko@187.39.220.166) joined ##slackware. [08:16] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [08:16] yeah, i have heard some people have some ugly words about thesun.co.uk [08:16] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:16] cybErpunk (n=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: "(snt).. [root@localhost]# [5m_" [08:17] what do you expect. It's the sun. [08:17] the only reason the sun sells papers is because theres tits on page 3 [08:17] are they like England's version of the National Enquirer? [08:18] no.. but i dont know what the US equivalent would be [08:18] if you want england's nat enquirer pick up a copy of the guardian [08:18] mancha: thats a bit of a stretch [08:18] mel0n (n=jshanch@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [08:18] Pig_Pen: its just a lowest common denominator newspaper.. obsessed with sex and over-reaction [08:19] Zordrak: triple checking. I had an error in -r option [08:20] yeah, i can see that now, the front page of the sun has that look, celebrety gossip and other misc bull, its very yellow journalism [08:20] thrice`: As you said and I agreed, layer 8 problem [08:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:33] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:35] i built 2.6.31.10 and noticed a wifi error that stopped the build, i copied a single c file to /drivers/net/wifi from the previous kernel source of the same version and it solved that issue, i noticed a new wifi card of the same brand of chip was added and they probably screwed it up when they added it [08:38] alicephilippa (n=alice@5ac1bb48.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:39] Kaapa, where did you mean when you said control manager i assumed you meant "system settings" but i can't seem to find it [08:40] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:41] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:41] vldmr (n=vldmr@187.64.33.148) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Greetings ! [08:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.74.235) joined ##slackware. [08:43] please, its correctly to create packages in release 13 ? makepkg -l y -c n package_name.txz [08:44] this way is correct ? [08:44] Im trying here and appear a error [08:45] which error? [08:45] ERROR: Can't make output package in current directory. [08:46] what dir are you in when you issue the command? [08:46] root@cmptdr-01:~/tmp/OOO310_m19_native_packed-1_pt-BR.9420/RPMS# [08:46] vldmr, add a "../package-blablah" [08:47] also, use the slackbuild for openoffice :) [08:47] i would say add /tmp/package....txz [08:47] aH... oK [08:47] it doesn't like to be put into the dir you are calling makepkg from [08:47] just a moment [08:49] ok... creating the package [08:49] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:49] thanks [08:51] finished [08:51] but then... it create a normal txz over tgz ? [08:51] is brOffice better than using the portugese language pack on regular Office? [08:52] Nick change: zecafig -> zecalmoco [08:52] mancha: its a brOffice [08:52] yes [08:52] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:54] ops... its create a tgz format [08:54] what can Slackware do and other distro can't ? [08:55] Dumbix: Out. [08:55] Dumbix: that's not a smart question. [08:55] Zordrak, I am looking for 1 reason to choose Slackware instead of others [08:55] Dumbix: what are YOUR requirements from a distro? [08:55] boot the troll! [08:56] morning [08:56] s/ix// [08:56] thumbs, what can make slackware different ? [08:56] Dumbix: that's not a smart question. [08:56] Dumbix: what are YOUR requirements from a distro? [08:56] mancha, right [08:56] Dumbix: be specific [08:56] thumbs, I think the smarter don't answer a question with another [08:57] how can I create a txz format ? [08:57] useing any Linux distro is like going swimming = you wont know for sure until you jump in and do it [08:57] Dumbix: oh yes, we reserve that right. [08:57] Pig_Pen: Drowning in a sea of Debians? [08:57] vldmr, txz can mean a tar+xz file or can mean an xz'd slackware package (which is a particular tar+xz file) [08:58] rabbits rabbits rabbits, debian & ubuntu deriviaves breed like rabbits [08:59] Pig_Pen, that's true, and until now after jumping several time in slackware sea, I didn't saw something different, except it's just a toy for who want to play with Linux [08:59] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:59] vldmr you need to be a little more specific on hwat exactly you mean [08:59] Dumbix: you need more sense in organization scripts and a unmodified compilation packages from original teams ? it slackware do [09:00] it is a toy for those that want to play, for those that do real world work run some mission critical servers on slackware [09:00] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: "Leaving" [09:00] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) joined ##slackware. [09:00] vldmr, you can do the same with .deb ? building your own package easily and magically [09:00] vldmr: don't waste your time [09:00] Dumbix: go home [09:01] folks he's clearly here to try to troll and do some debian vs slackware flame. [09:01] mancha: yeah [09:01] mancha: I'm still waiting for a smart question from him [09:01] vldmr, when you use a special package standard you feel more professional [09:01] thumbs, you'll be waiting a long time i'm afraid [09:01] than just ./configure ; make install [09:01] Dumbix: ok, go away [09:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.182.50) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Action: fuzzix_ points out the commonly implemented /ignore IRC client feature. [09:03] it's ridiculous to see the oldest Linux distro doesn't use here special package manager [09:03] :S [09:03] ahauahau [09:03] Although I do believe Opera's client doesn't have it :/ [09:04] what is opera's irc client called (any special name?) [09:04] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62914@gateway/web/freenode/x-rpwfqoitgtmxhvnx) joined ##slackware. [09:04] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Dumbix: most all slackers dont want a "special package manager" making dependency decisions for them [09:05] Dumbix: When you have no idea what you're talking about.. the best thing to do is simply stop talking. [09:05] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:05] yes please, Dumbix follow Zordrak's advise [09:06] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:06] its like an invasion of the muppets! [09:06] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Pig_Pen, Zordrak can't say something good ! he is the terrorist of IRC, I know him since years [09:07] lol [09:07] well his nickname is well suited for his personality [09:07] when he is done he just say : STFU ! [09:07] lol [09:07] an annoying hurd of fuzzballs asking questions that totally go against the "Slack philosophy" [09:07] "dumb unix user" [09:08] case in point. [09:08] Dumbix: You have absolutely no clue who I am, and I doubt you've ever met me before. Feel free to troll elsewhere. [09:08] thumbs, try to be professinal and give me serious answer instead talking like thugz [09:08] ah, the bliss of /ignore [09:10] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [09:10] can slackware give Insurance about the use of a program ? or do I have to do that myslef ? [09:11] i just about have my .fvwm2rc the way i want it [09:11] are you professional enough to secure the installation of any program ? [09:13] it takes time to do that, to secure to organize.. this is what the team do for you.. and if you decide to install from scratch it's in your own risk but you can do that [09:13] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Dumbix, please stop... what you are doing is trolling and that's not welcome here... behave or leave. [09:14] linXea, it's not that difficult to understand what I say :S [09:14] slackbox (n=slackbox@was.denied-inter.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:14] you are just ignoring my messages because you wont know the truth [09:15] rworkman: ping? [09:15] rworkman: pong? [09:15] slackbox (i=nocturna@was.denied-inter.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] guys, is there a way to boot into readonly mode so i can run badblocks on my root partition? (without using a cdrom--my cdrom drive is bust) [09:16] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:16] behold padwans! [09:16] We should make and chrooted jail on IRC for people who disturb. And for people that done very bad thing we should code inject them. Or sudo rm -rf / [09:16] O_O [09:17] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.217.207) joined ##slackware. [09:17] and other kocks! agentc0re! [09:18] yesyes not your system part [09:18] Azeotrope, starts from you ! rm -rf . [09:18] you're too excited, too early. [09:18] agentc0re: dont fuck with me my friend! :-P [09:19] darth_mohl: i don't even know you, you are not my friend. [09:19] mancha: sorry? [09:19] darth_mohl: Please watch the language [09:19] or otherwise it will go you bad. [09:19] darth_mohl: don't speak to me like that either. [09:20] Guys, darth_mohl is a known troll. [09:20] Dominian: can you boot Dumbix too? [09:20] I've handled him in a few other channels :) [09:20] :-) [09:20] Dominian: figured as much. [09:20] Azeotrope: btw, don't put commands like that in channel, and if you really have to, at least quote them. [09:20] gawd, troll-day today ? ... Im out.. [09:21] plz we have to stop supporting Slackware.. it's a shame for all Linux distro [09:21] Dumbix: go die in a fire [09:21] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]" [09:21] Just /ignore them [09:21] we can't concurrence other OS with Slackware it's really stupid ! [09:22] They'll get bored and leave eventually.. and if not.. and they carry on like this, other measures can and will be taken [09:22] yeah, that will be my last comment towards him [09:22] I hope that pat died early [09:23] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:23] slackaware is the most racist distro [09:23] njan (i=james@freenode/staff/njan) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Action: Dominian waves to njan [09:24] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Dumbix: it doesn't get played by dumb people? [09:24] Dumbix: go away please [09:25] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-132-188.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Dumbix: Slackware is probably the worst place to troll (not that it's good anywhere) though you usually won't get the response you desire from us here. [09:26] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Dumbix==The_faithful as well [09:26] why to no choose LFS if you want to do everything with yourself [09:27] if you want to play with linux [09:27] go /join #guantanamobay [09:27] lol [09:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-253-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] more of Dumbix antic's http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/20090928.html.gz [09:28] Slackware = toy, and LFS is the best linux toy if you want to learn linux from scratch ! [09:29] i'm really surprised he's not been banned yet. what are you waiting for? anyway, thanks for helping. [09:29] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [09:29] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "almoço" [09:29] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.63.48) left irc: "Fui embora" [09:30] slackware is GNU/Linux and Patrick is your Prophet !! [09:30] You can't ban clowns. Not even the evil ones. [09:30] Dumbix: you became so boring. slackware works and people like it. if you don't wanna use, nobody forced you to use it! [09:31] ##slackware: mode change '+o Stx' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:32] ChArLoK_16, finally I hear something interesting here ! No I figured out that I can't change monkey's mind ! so I will go [09:32] a monkey = monkey [09:32] Dumbix (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:32] he knew what was coming after the +i [09:33] er +o [09:33] yep [09:33] ##slackware: mode change '-o Stx' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [09:33] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:33] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [09:34] If he comes back and starts trolling or whatever please query me. [09:34] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:34] akar (n=oijhif@92.82.70.38) joined ##slackware. [09:34] 10-4 [09:35] vldmr (n=vldmr@187.64.33.148) left irc: "good luck slack guys" [09:35] ##slackware: mode change '+o Stx' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:35] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.wanamaroc.com' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [09:35] ##slackware: mode change '-o Stx' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [09:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [09:35] thank's for the preemptive strike. [09:36] Yeah thought that was the best solution given the users history (:. [09:36] ah, lovely, a full isp [09:37] lol, i just scared the crap out of him. [09:37] i did a whois on Dumbix a while ago i have his info if you want it [09:37] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-234-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [09:37] hi there [09:37] Pig_Pen: that's how i found his other ranting's from other channels. [09:38] nachox: He's the only one using it. [09:38] Pig_Pen: i nmaped him and told him he shouldn't come in here next time with his telnet port so wide open. he immediately logged off after that. lol [09:38] lol [09:38] lol! yeah that should be a wakeup call [09:39] agentc0re, actually, that is just as bad [09:40] he isn't even good at trolling [09:40] nachox: Really? I would never even attempt to try to accomplish anything. I always look when these trolls start coming around to see what i can use to scare them away. [09:40] agentc0re: running nmap without the IP's owner permission is not ethical. [09:40] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-236.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:41] agentc0re, you've probably breached your isp contract by doing that. not only that but should that user complain to your isp, they would have the legal right to terminate your contract [09:41] so it's not just morally wrong, it's illegal [09:41] meh [09:41] nachox: i'll have to check that out and see if it's true or not. [09:42] ok - tds.mirrors.net slackware rsync is back up [09:42] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62914@gateway/web/freenode/x-rpwfqoitgtmxhvnx) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [09:42] portmapping isn't illegal [09:42] and the user can do that as you've actually told him you scanned him [09:42] I wouldn't think that a port scan is illegal. [09:42] if you dont have the authorization of the other party, in most places it is [09:42] its about as offensive as doing a recursive dns query [09:43] its impolite at worst [09:43] but it doesn't do anything harmful [09:43] illegal?? i do hundreds of nmaps a day [09:43] Azeotrope: heh. [09:44] thumbs: And coming in here and annoying everyone isn't either. Where is the line drawn? [09:44] i portman my webserver clients when they're hammering my servers to see if they're a bot or not [09:44] er portmap [09:45] if they're a bot i block them, if they're a user i throttle them [09:45] but it's sad if a ISP can terminate your contract because you scanned somebody. [09:45] Skywise: how do you tell the difference? place of origin? [09:45] trust me, i do this for a living, check the contract with your isp [09:45] i look for open control ports [09:46] at least if youre in argentina or in canada, yes [09:46] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [09:46] probably the us is even worse [09:46] nachox: It's not that i don't trust you, i just have to look it up for myself. [09:46] well i can't speak for all nations, but its not in the us [09:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [09:46] nachox: i live in europe [09:47] the contract are more or less the same, really, just read them [09:47] a ping flood is illegal because its a dos [09:47] portscan isn't invasive [09:47] you don't like someone scanning you, just block the ip [09:47] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] I once did a arp poisoning for a few hrs on all my ISP network. [09:47] Sure it is. [09:47] When I went to pay the bill they told me that was not nice [09:47] portscan is like going to your house and checking if the door is open. [09:48] Which is illegal in most places (:. [09:48] agentc0re: i think i speak for a lot of us in here when i say "we would hate to see you lose your internet" [09:48] mancha: Sorry, was called away... Opera's client is bundled with the browser, AFAIK. [09:48] Tho, lots of things are illegal. People do it anyway. [09:48] don't you hate it when you point slackpkg to slackware when you should be pointing to slackware64 [09:48] if you ever look in your maillogs and see connections that lost input channel to mta after receipt, thats a port scan on your server [09:49] alisonken1lap: heh [09:49] I got several segfaults in this pidgin: http://www.slackware.com/lists/archive/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.439800 [09:49] I have a ftp server, password protected. nothing fancy, i don't even care if somebody get's what i have on it. but still i get 10-20 hits per day [09:49] i think a port scan is more like looking at the house thru binoculars for openings [09:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] Skywise: hehe, yeah maybe that. [09:50] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.74.235) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:50] or walking up to a house and checking to see if the doors are locked [09:50] Axius (n=oijhif@92.85.217.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] I should review my contract, too, for fun. [09:50] well not that could be construed as an attempt to enter [09:50] looking to see if its open or not isn't [09:50] Pig_Pen: heh, thanks. I wouldn't want to lose it either. [09:51] trying to login on a a random port would be an issue [09:51] seeing if something responds isn't [09:52] there is not a competition in decent broadband internet, you probably have two choices in most cities, DSL and a cable TV company (they both might share a blacklist) [09:52] but its easy enough to firewall everything that isn't established from inside [09:52] nah, all they care about is money [09:52] at least over here [09:52] it all depends on the methods of the scan I guess, a Connect scan is something other than a SYN scan. [09:52] Pig_Pen: there is always ... dialup. [09:53] spammers open multiple accounts all the time, they just can't use the same cc# [09:53] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.13) left irc: [09:53] yeah, but even making a tcp/ip connection isn't an attack [09:53] i once used wget to mirror a website full of graphics and sound bytes, i downloaded about 60 megs of files before the server cut me off, later my internet was down for a day, my ISP might have decided to scare me in to being nicer [09:53] that would make everyone liable for prosecution who ever put in a wrong ip [09:54] I am unable to even find my isp contract online [09:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) joined ##slackware. [09:54] or maybe you were using too much bandwidth [09:54] Skywise: People have died for less. Wargames? :) [09:54] hehe [09:54] lol [09:54] akar (n=oijhif@92.82.70.38) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:54] anyway, coffee break, bbiab guys! [09:54] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [09:54] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] naw, i can download a 700 meg ISO in about 10 to 20 minutes depending on the server, so i dont think it was a bandwidth issue [09:55] i used to play lax in high school and college, STX were my favs [09:55] Skywise ;o) [09:55] Pig_Pen: so why the ISP downed your internet connection? [09:56] Skywise, http://www.essortment.com/hobbies/termsconditions_twve.htm [09:56] as a clue? [09:56] that is an example of what you might find in an isp contract [09:56] could have been not related [09:56] i could never treat an outage on the net as a signal [09:56] could of been the hosting site not wanting to be mirrored [09:56] hello All! i trying to figure out where is my diskspace, "df -h" - i see space usage. after this i have deleted some large files, typing again "df -h" - the same result! Should i, hmm, "refresh" this data? [09:57] any reference to your points? i didn't read mine, i don't wanna read someone elses [09:57] it was just a junk website with humorous graphics and stupid sound bytes, nothing really important [09:57] w0ls0n (n=w0ls0n@ded529-fbsd-173-59.netsonic.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Skywise, here is an actual contract http://www.aerosurf.net/ISPA.pdf, read section 3.3 [09:57] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:57] dfrank, if you wanna find out where its used, try du -hs /* [09:58] w0ls0n (n=w0ls0n@ded529-fbsd-173-59.netsonic.net) left ##slackware. [09:59] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [10:00] Skywise: yeah, thanks, it's useful [10:00] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [10:00] yw [10:01] you have to use a wildcard with -s otherwise it will just sum the directory you list instead of its contents [10:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.66.250) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [10:01] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.95.211) joined ##slackware. [10:02] I googled my IP and I got some things I want burried in my past. A website that tracks user agents, my IP linked to my nickname in this channel and some of my problems as a linux noob [10:03] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:03] anyone knows if there are any advantages or disadvantages when putting a laptop in hibernation rather than normal poweroff or which one reduces the life of the battery [10:03] Axius (n=fim@92.85.211.182) joined ##slackware. [10:03] http://nmap.org/book/legal-issues.html [10:03] yeah, and all the bots indexing irc channels, they suck worse then port scanning [10:03] dissociative: well, hibernation would preserve the state of your session, so you don't have to remember and reactivate everything you had going [10:04] I would like to know which one safes more battery life [10:04] you know a couple of drinks and that chick would be ok [10:04] dissociative: also, I belive hibernation is supposed to be quicker in waking up than rebooting [10:04] rk4n3: it is. [10:05] yes, i like a fresh start, i never get everything back right after hibernating [10:05] dissociative: hibernating requires a small trickle of power usage constantly, shutting down means your computer will use no power at all while its off [10:05] Why the hell do we log the channels? nobody uses those logs. only malicious persons [10:05] Azeotrope: speak for yourself - I use them [10:06] it seems that hibernation wastes more power when shutting down [10:06] Azeotrope: there's a wealth of information and insight in them [10:06] than normal poweroff [10:06] i already have enough stuff to ignore, why add irc logs to the list [10:06] however, keep in mind that a battery will deplete faster if left unused for a long time, especially if charged. [10:06] Skywise: one word ... grep [10:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] or you can ask live [10:06] phftptpptp [10:07] see, who's gonna grep that [10:07] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20471.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [10:07] that's one thing grep will filter out :) [10:08] has anyone built ssh2 module for php on slack64 ? [10:09] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:11] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:11] re: ##slackware logs ... the thing is, if you hang out here, you get to know enough about some people to respect their opinions and insights, and known what *they* said some time on a topic can be worth far more than digging up some nameless/faceless crap out of google et al [10:12] unless thats what you get referred too [10:13] slackware logs aren't very practical for searching though [10:14] they are if you pull the whole lot onto disk :) [10:14] which I guess most people don't do ;p [10:15] I do [10:15] :) [10:16] I do too but new guys won't [10:17] Wow, a busdriver lady plead guilty to drunk driving after the kids noticed she was drunk and got off the bus. [10:18] julioc (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) joined ##slackware. [10:18] we just used to laugh at ours when that happened [10:18] lool [10:18] we had one case like that in France a few years ago too [10:19] i couldnt imagine how outraged those parents were [10:19] she only got 90 days. 37 counts of reckless endangerment and dui. [10:20] doesnt seem like enough when there is children involved [10:21] children are easy to make [10:21] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hahah [10:21] and fun to make [10:21] my bus driver hit this one stop sign so many times they stopped putting it back up [10:22] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [10:22] haha [10:22] howdy mago [10:22] just hard to maintain [10:22] mornin Scuzz [10:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] does anyone has used ubuntu for resizing the windows partition of a laptop and then install slackware? [10:25] dissociative: why? [10:25] I just usedd gparted [10:26] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:26] Kaapa: I which way? [10:26] is there a port of gparted for windows? [10:26] Axius_ (n=fim@92.84.3.225) joined ##slackware. [10:26] *in which [10:26] dissociative: you'd better run gparted live [10:27] as for on ubuntu, fdisk :-) [10:27] it's on the slackware installer anyway [10:27] dissociative: I use Parted Magic [10:27] well thanx for the suggestion [10:27] just think if you had a bus driver that that one on SouthPark, crazy old bat with a bird in her hair [10:27] and err, *DO* *NOT* resize the windows system partition if you can avoid it [10:27] my bus driver was her mentor [10:27] chances are it'll stop booting [10:28] dissociative: there's a bunch of live partitions out there [10:28] Camarade_Tux: I dont have any free space [10:28] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [10:28] I tried once with ubuntu on a desktop pc and it did work fine [10:28] then do it again [10:28] I usually find that after I remove Windows I free a lot of space. [10:28] you can boot a live ubuntu without installing it [10:28] better back up and be sure you can reinstall windows with something else if you want/need to [10:29] ah yes [10:29] dissociative: I know moving the windows system partition is a bad idea (or moving its beginning), resizing the end may be ok but better play on the safe side and be prepared to reformat [10:29] but I dont have nothing to backup on this windows, I would try if I can reinstall with my vlk and virtualbox and a copy of windows that I have [10:30] add another drive [10:31] I was thinking about installing with logical volumes [10:31] lvm lets you use a collection of partitions as a single logical drive, but theres tradeoffs [10:32] ~I would like to try it [10:32] I have never been into it [10:32] don't try it with something you want to keep [10:38] hfjardim (n=hfjardim@92.25.205.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:38] brb [10:38] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.95.211) left irc: "leaving" [10:38] you can get decent sized sata drives now for less than a hundred bucks [10:39] Axius (n=fim@92.85.211.182) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "system bounce" [10:41] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5494.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:41] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5494.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:05] Nick change: Echoes -> echoes [11:06] Pig_Pen: my 500GB cost about 33 euros and my 1TB cost 72 euros one year ago [11:07] is that "descent" enough? :P [11:07] anyway, gotta, be back later :-) [11:07] Punker (n=Punker@unaffiliated/punker) left irc: "• IRcap • 8.5 •" [11:08] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:10] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Axius_ (n=fim@92.84.3.225) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:11] http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014 103530113 1035915133&name=SATA 3.0Gb%2fs [11:11] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:11] komentarze_listy (n=komentar@unaffiliated/komentarze) left ##slackware. [11:12] what program do you use to configure wireless? [11:12] use wicd .. get it using slackpkg [11:12] I use to do it manualy, but in the last few days I have troubles with it [11:12] a text editor and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless.conf [11:13] yeah, wicd is what you want to try [11:13] Pin_Pen tryed that, not working [11:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:13] Wireless is a mess. [11:14] there is a tool named wifi-radar that is a python thing, it works ok but is a resource hog when the gui is open, but once set it seems to do ok, [11:14] Nick change: zecalmoco -> zecafig [11:14] it has been a while since i used it, they might have fixed it by now [11:15] deximat: how is wicd not working? [11:15] or they might have abandoned it (have not kept up with it lately) [11:15] nto wicd [11:15] I tryed to manualy config [11:15] oh [11:16] pastebin your config files and lets have a look, maybe i can spot an error [11:16] ok [11:16] i have a character delimited flat file that i need to output to new parse and write new files. For example: http://pastebin.ca/1741514 I need to output a new file for each MID=... up to the next MID= [11:17] i have sed -d 's/MID\=/\nMID=/g' successfully parsing the file, but im not sure how to get it to write the output to individual files [11:17] oops, sed -e [11:17] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.66.250) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:18] | echo > file.txt ? [11:18] but i need a new file for each MID=... [11:19] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-132-188.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:19] i was trying to figure out how to do it with split and sed, but couldn't come up with anything useful [11:19] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:21] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Pig_Pen http://paste2.org/p/598540 [11:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:25] mag0o, maybe somthing like "for somthing in $1 $2 $3 $3" [11:25] change this IFNAME[4]="wlan0" to this IFNAME[0]="wlan0" (notice the zero between the brakets) same with the USE_DHCP, also, no wep? no wpa? [11:26] i take it you're not using ethernet [11:26] not at the moment [11:26] no encription [11:26] I am open ;) [11:27] oobe: that may work, perhaps i could grep for the count of MID= then do a for loop or such. thanks for the thoughts [11:27] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:27] i hope none of your neighbors are catching a free ride on your internet [11:27] its ok im not really strong with scripting but i like to help if i can [11:28] I dont care, I have flat, whole month [11:28] and I use internet for surfing [11:28] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:28] downloading just over night [11:28] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: "*" [11:29] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [11:29] if they do, I dont mind at all, I am happy to help someone [11:29] also it could be dhcp is not picking up your IP, gateway & subnet mask, personally i would disable dhcp and kill that service from running and do a static ip address, gateway & subnet [11:30] copy the nameservers from the router config and put them in /etc/resolv.conf [11:30] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [11:31] i would try that first before changing from dhcp to static, just put the namesers in resolv.conf (that might fix it) [11:31] how do you mean nameservers? [11:31] ip of the ruter? [11:31] not common with that [11:31] What would be lesse expired [11:32] get to the router config through your browser, get your ISP's nameservers ip addresses and put them in resolv.conf [11:32] probably http://192.168.1.1 [11:32] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Byew" [11:32] or [11:32] probably http://192.168.0.1 [11:33] depending on the brand of router [11:33] so, sparkfun.com is having a giveaway today, $100 for free [11:33] #sparkfun onfreenode is the largest channel ever on freenode [11:33] 2400 people in channel right now [11:33] 1.1 i router [11:34] so global ip to put into resolv? [11:34] or 100.1 [11:34] look for "nameservers" [11:34] psibian (i=1000@123.238.138.147) joined ##slackware. [11:34] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] whats the point of being on a channel just because its large? [11:35] Pig_Pen: no nameservers, only wan ip [11:35] do i need to recompile gcc and glibs if i am using non stock kernel? [11:35] found it [11:35] i would see what the dhcp settings on your router resolv too [11:36] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.wanamaroc.com expired. [11:36] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.wanamaroc.com' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:36] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:36] but it is already there [11:36] :( [11:36] in status it could be either "nameservers" or "DNS" [11:36] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:37] yeah dns,,, but it is already there, on other computer I have issue, that when I do iwconfig essi .... ap .... , it says AP: not asocciated [11:37] why is that? [11:38] (it says on iwconfig wlan0) [11:38] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:38] does any one know how to compile a 32 bit program for a 64 bit linux? [11:39] i wish dmesg had timestamps [11:39] run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [11:39] just a min [11:40] what's the best graphical for usenet [11:41] the one you know how to use [11:41] really, thats like asking whats the best color [11:41] whatever email client you prefer, claws, thunderburd, seamonkey [11:41] what [11:41] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:41] alpine [11:41] Pig_Pen errors :S [11:41] no man, serious usenet, not reading stuff [11:41] ;D [11:41] pastebin? [11:42] deximat: what wifi card do you have? [11:42] Nick change: echoes -> Ech [11:42] i think you want a usenet downloader, not a newsreader [11:42] yep [11:43] pig_pen, not sure, but it worked yesterday wit ifconfig iwconfig dhcpcd [11:43] i don't use a gui myself, so i couldn't suggest one over the other [11:44] i'd just pick one with threaded workers and stop and resume batches [11:44] i want to try it.. i usually use hellanzb/hellaworld [11:44] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:44] too much spam and trolls on usenet is why i abandoned it [11:44] if you're using nzbs then you dont even need to download headers [11:44] well, thats gone [11:45] anyway i set up a lvm/raid1/xen slackware system and made xen01 a nxserver with kde so i can connect, had 1 cpu and 512 mb ram and it crawled so i upped it to 2 cpu and 1536 ram... this is a non vt opteron 265SE, it's pretty sexy [11:45] spider1010 (n=spider10@193.sub-97-38-47.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [11:45] used to be rife with fake postings for a bit, but that doesn't happen anymore [11:45] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] if you think its fast with a gui, imagine how it'd run from a console [11:45] yea [11:46] i heard some of the BIG isps on the east coast started blocking usenet so that could have stopped a lot of that [11:46] hellaworld/nzb is really cool [11:46] no, they've only stopped supplying [11:46] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [11:46] but there are plenty of 3rd party servers [11:46] astraweb has good rates [11:46] any one to help me with multi arch [11:46] spider1010 (n=spider10@193.sub-97-38-47.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] you can pay monthly or buy a block of gb to use at your leisure [11:46] single thread from giga gets me 67mbit from my server [11:47] i've tested it before, it goes a bit faster [11:47] alienBOB, u there? [11:47] Pig_Pen, iwlist scan, find my router... [11:47] thats pretty sick [11:47] i think when it starts processing, it reaches drive limits [11:47] AFAIK if your ISP's mail server does not carry usenet then you will have to find another way to get it [11:47] i only get 640k down [11:48] heh [11:48] na at home i have left [11:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] less [11:48] deximat: i guess as a last resort try to set up wifi with a static ip, gateway & subnet, and disable dhcp from running [11:48] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:48] usenet is still the internet's best kept secret [11:48] now if only gopher would come back [11:49] I've never used it [11:49] jeev, will you teach me? [11:49] gopher was great, put in the file name you wanted and bam it goes out and gets it and brings it back [11:49] Pig_Pen, but I think that there is error before dhcp, beause I cant get ap associated with it... [11:49] it even lets you choose between versions of there are more then 1 hit [11:49] but alas one day all the servers went away [11:49] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:49] 287MB of 297MB remaining [11:49] ETA 0h 0m 5s at 56762KB/s [11:49] heh [11:49] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [11:49] what thrice? [11:50] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:50] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [11:50] how to be as cool as u, etc. [11:51] thrice`, "unpossible" [11:51] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) joined ##slackware. [11:51] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [11:51] :/ [11:51] yea sorry [11:52] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:53] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:53] no wonder its hard to see, my glasses are dirty, going to wash them in the kitchen with hotwater [11:54] i like to clean mine with a terri cloth towel [11:56] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [11:57] Where can I find eye candy for xfce on Slackware? [11:59] yup, i use a terri cloth towel to dry them, but i clean them with hot water and dish washing soap first so there is no dirt or grit on them to scratch them [11:59] kleanchap: http://goodies.xfce.org/ [12:00] psibian (i=1000@123.238.138.147) left irc: "Leaving" [12:00] or http://xfce-look.org/ [12:01] gnubien, and Pig_Pen : thnx [12:03] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [12:03] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:04] http://imagebin.org/78736 fvwm FTW! [12:04] Ech (n=Who@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [12:04] Pig_Pen, use cashmere to clean your glasses [12:05] is that a red dot? (Seinfeld refrence to cashmere) [12:05] i think seinfeld was the dumbest show on earth.. and not cause what or who he is, i'd rather watch larry david [12:05] seinfeld's comedy is trash [12:05] seinfeld is good! [12:05] no way [12:06] what the exact implications of not having the 127.0.0.1 (myhostnamehere) [12:07] Ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [12:07] i have issues with asterisk, but not pretty confident to remove the conf from /etc/hosts [12:07] localhost, not sure, i always had one, maybe the PC wont be able to talk to itself [12:07] huh [12:07] oh [12:08] yea i dunno if the system would go crazy with hardcoded localhost search's [12:08] why would youwanna remove it [12:08] How do I wipe out a thumb drive with dd? [12:08] forget it. I got it. [12:08] actualy if one app try to find itself by using the hostname (trantor in my case) instead of localhost or hard 127.0.0.1 it will return a name error [12:08] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/thumb [12:09] but im not shure what app's will do that and if i should care for then [12:09] them [12:09] mancha, thnx [12:10] it might brake things like X and the printer some desktop environments that use it, take a look at all the entries in netstat -a [12:10] ok [12:10] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [12:13] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] its a PBX, i was thinking more like, apache or mysql, but im pretty shure both resolv the localhost and not the machines hostname [12:13] try freeswitch [12:14] and all that to fix a wrong coded sip header =( [12:15] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:16] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:17] behold, thy god emperor and all around nice guy :-) [12:17] There is security bug in pidgin unfixed [12:18] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:19] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Nick change: Ech -> ech [12:20] some said im a troll .. im not.. im actuallu somewaat disturbed by that [12:21] i'm not a troll! [12:21] mernill? [12:22] thrice`: no.. this mer [12:22] nil is unfamiliar for me [12:22] I disagree [12:22] ok, you are an orc then [12:23] thrice`: but a damn god tr [12:23] y i must say! [12:24] but you possess all of mernil's retarded comments and habits [12:25] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Theric´e what the hell are ou talking about? reat [12:26] rded comments? Swedeish open source guy mernil is a fine man! [12:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] i want ou to take that back you f**k ;-) [12:27] darth_mohl, still trolling the channel ? .. [12:27] i thought you were banned here? [12:27] im not trolling but thanks.. :-P [12:27] please stop... you're a disgrace to us swedes here.. [12:28] im what :-O [12:28] darth_mohl: you slut :D [12:29] Action: linXea thanks the irc-god for /ignore [12:29] linXea: heh, yeah ignore is nice [12:30] im not trollintg but i want my friend mernil to get unbanned. That's all [12:30] my very good friend [12:31] and it ain any trollling with that [12:31] maybe you can get banned so you can have more time to spend with your friend elsewhere [12:31] :O sandman1 you bad boy! [12:31] is there a problem? [12:31] i dont have any friends [12:32] such is life [12:32] btw.. i had one. but he died 3 weeks ago .. very sad :-/ [12:33] no one gets banned here without reason... If banned, don't cry about it. [12:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:33] how is this of relevance to us? [12:33] darth_mohl is a troll name mernil, who should (is?) be perma-banned from here iirc [12:34] and probably every other linux channel on freenode :) [12:34] thrice`: i dont even know this "mernil! what the hell are you talking about? [12:34] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] darth_mohl please read this url: http://www.clueponbook.com/cluepon.html [12:35] oki,, bbl *kisses* :-) [12:35] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]" [12:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:36] finally.. [12:36] he was here earlier today? [12:36] [03-01-2010][17:18] ( darth_mohl) I'm a friend of mernil, he is banned from here and dont feel so good about it [12:36] BP{k}, i thought i read that, but i could not find it for the life of me [12:36] damn trolls [12:37] yes, and in the same friendly spirit [12:37] please guys, if you see me connected and there is something like this happening it's very likely that i am working but able to deal with these things [12:37] Action: linXea takes a note of that.. [12:38] trolls are sick twisted persons who desparately need attention and will use any deception for their needs [12:38] nachox: in case like that /msg would be okay? [12:38] of course [12:38] roger. :) [12:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-177-88.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] BP{k}: wtf is roger ? :D [12:40] roger wilco [12:40] :O [12:40] snL20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_procedure [12:40] a two-way radio call meaning you understand, roger? roger roger [12:40] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [12:41] what's our vector victor? [12:41] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.26.246.22) joined ##slackware. [12:41] gnubien: wilco already implies roger ;) [12:41] roger dodger :) [12:42] ya old codger [12:42] Nick change: goarilla_ -> goarilla [12:42] surely you must be joking; and dont call me shurley! [12:42] i have a remote machine which had a static IP since ever [12:42] BP{k}: I know... I was kidding =) [12:43] no you weren't!!! ;) [12:43] BP{k}: lol [12:43] now ISP reckons they'll be better of with DHCP and they want up to start using only dhcp [12:44] eColdSton (n=jcherney@cpe-74-70-49-185.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hpgdjuthsxxokpwz) left irc: [12:45] bender_ (n=bender@93.185.183.55) joined ##slackware. [12:45] so the question is how can in simple fashion set up dhcp in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf so i will somehow know the IP adress of that remote machine everytime it reboots .. [12:46] Nick change: eColdSton -> Zero1One0 [12:46] mwnn (n=user@59.92.152.250) joined ##slackware. [12:46] dyndns ..hm, may be could [12:46] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-253-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:46] Helo everyone. [12:47] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Hello everyone [12:48] :) [12:49] hi [12:49] dear All. I need to make an alias gvim="gvim --servername GVIM --remote-silent" for every user in my system, i have tried to make /etc/profile.d/gvim.sh with an alias, but at system restart no alias gvim. I have also tried add this alias in ~/.profile , but there's no effect too. :( where am i wrong? [12:50] /etc/profile dfrank [12:50] .... [12:50] dfrank, only login shells will import the profile [12:50] yes but when you go init 3 [12:50] you inherit it when you're in a xterminal [12:51] kitty_ (n=kitty@c-76-28-70-231.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] unless you use xdm/kdm/gdm [12:51] am i wrong ? [12:51] goarilla, if you read /etc/profile you will notice that it sources every file in /etc/profile.d/ [12:51] yes [12:51] every file that is excutable iirc ? [12:51] dfrank: http://rlworkman.net/conf/ksh/10-local.sh <-- is an example,. make sure the file is executable though [12:51] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] a lot of distro's add a line that sources /etc/profile [12:53] most of them also add that bashrc to the skeleton dir [12:53] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:53] goarilla: a lot of distros also make a n /etc/bashrc .. doesn't mean it's right. ;) [12:53] :D [12:53] my file is executable, yes [12:54] dfrank: are you in init 4 ? [12:54] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:54] BP{k}: i recently used sysrescuecd [12:54] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-63.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [12:54] and i kinda liked its zsh environment [12:54] it (zsh) finally appealed to me [12:54] goarilla: hmm, i'm not sure what is init 4, is it a graphical login screen? [12:55] type runlevel [12:55] in a terminal [12:55] yes it is dfrank [12:55] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.208) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:55] goarilla: no, i using text login. it's 3 [12:55] mako (n=mako@81.22.24.16) joined ##slackware. [12:55] then it oughta work imho [12:56] i usually alias a command with '' instead of "" [12:56] but that shouldn't have any effect [12:56] iirc [12:56] dfrank: hmm it works for me. [12:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [12:56] BP{k}: what exactly? [12:57] dfrank have you tried to souce your gvim.sh [12:57] and see if it the alias then works ? [12:57] goarilla: yes i have, and alias becomes work [12:57] you do now [12:57] you need to logout again fully ? [12:58] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [12:58] dfrank: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/G4DTZA96.html [12:58] relogin at getty ? [12:58] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:58] getty/login ... [12:58] How do I install .txz files? Or how am I supposed to install them? Should they be in any particular directory when I use installpkg on them? [12:58] Should I be a normal or root user? [12:59] root user kitty_ [12:59] kitty_: installpkg(8), upgradepkg(8), slackpkg(8) and Chapter 18 of the SlackBook @ http://www.slackbook.org/ [12:59] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] kitty_: root [13:00] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] OK, because I was learnt to install packages as a normal user in most cases. On other distributions. [13:00] thats plain wrong [13:00] Anyone get Compiz successfuly worning w/ Gnome 2.26.3 on Slackware64 13.0? [13:00] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.40.136) joined ##slackware. [13:01] kitty_: what other distribution does this? [13:01] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:01] fedora 12 did this but they fixed it with updates on packagekit [13:01] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:01] every distribution asks for password afaik [13:01] lol the bug [13:02] ubuntu asks the users though, obviously [13:02] BP{k}: very strange, i have a similar file with similar permissions and similar content, but this still doesn't work :( [13:02] there was quite some bullshit about that stupid bug [13:02] dfrank: are you sure you are spawning a login shell? [13:02] well ... too open default [13:03] just login again at a tty dfrank and inspect your environment [13:03] BP{k}, When installing from the repositories, of course you have to be root, but when installing things like games, I was told to just unzip the package and run ./configure, ./make, and ./make install as a normal user. [13:03] ok, wait a min [13:03] kitty_: ? [13:03] that only works if the prefix [13:03] ./configure --prefix=... is set to a directory you have perms for [13:04] and if the Makefile supports it [13:04] kitty_: uhm . you said installing a *package*. ./configure, make, make install is *not* installing a package [13:04] apparently /usr/local [13:04] then a normal user either has perms to that WHICH is ABSOLUTELY wrong [13:05] sure you don't mean ./configure && make && sudo make install ? [13:05] goarilla, I'm sure [13:05] goarilla, I've done it lots of times. [13:05] you've got a machine ? where you can do that [13:05] if so pastebin a typescript of it [13:05] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:05] cause somethng is really amiss there [13:06] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] You only compile source tarballs, not packages [13:06] goarilla: "alias make='sudo make'"? ;) [13:06] yeah :D [13:06] next question would be to [13:06] set -n or set -x [13:07] Well source tarballs come as .tar.gz files. So I didn't see the difference. [13:07] .tar.gz vs .tgz [13:07] Zero1One0 (n=jcherney@cpe-74-70-49-185.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [13:07] you must be losing your sight then [13:07] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: "*" [13:07] To be fair, some source tarballs come as tgz [13:07] I just use the word 'package' to mean a program to install. By whatever means. [13:07] oh, shit! I have understand a little: alias works, but i always run GNU screen, and in it alias doesn't work! [13:08] or as tar.bz2 or as tar.xz or as zip. [13:08] Well..generally, 'package' means a compiled app [13:08] *nix is all about text ... you just need to learn to rea d:P [13:08] how can i make in work in GNU screen? [13:08] dfrank: well screen doesn't use a login screen. [13:08] but i need to learn to write apparently [13:08] Also, help files state that .tar.gz files and .tgz files are the same. [13:08] lol dfrank [13:08] your in a reattached session aren't you :D [13:08] They are the same [13:08] kitty_: state where? [13:08] sorry everyone! [13:08] tgz and tar.gz are two extensions for the same kind of file [13:09] BP{k}, I don't remember. It's been a while since I've read about it. [13:09] BP{k}: is this any way to make it work in screen? [13:09] dfrank: well you could make your shell source /etc/profile on every start of any shell (something like "source /etc/profile 2>&1 /dev/null" [13:09] xterm -e screen -r [ -d ] in xinitrc perhaps :D [13:10] kitty_: [13:10] dfrank: i think the deflogin option [13:10] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] you can do tar -tvf package.tgz to inspect a slackware package if you want [13:10] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:10] just like you can do the same with a tar.gz [13:10] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:10] ooow bad example tar -tzvf [13:10] tar -tvf will do it for bz2 as well [13:10] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:10] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:10] and anything tar understands [13:11] eg can pipe * [13:11] goarilla: nah. Tar is smart enough these days to figure out what the tarball is compressed with. [13:11] dfrank: or maybe not. but try it [13:11] tar -tzvf data/downloads/src/moc-2.4.4.tar.bz2 [13:11] gzip: stdin: not in gzip format [13:11] anyway, time to take the dog out for a wander in the snow. [13:11] not when giving the explicit option ! [13:11] .... [13:11] =D [13:12] Action: BP{k} can't be arsed to even retort to that. [13:12] sahk0: ok, i'll try, thanks [13:12] don't fear the cold [13:12] or the reaper [13:12] no fear the reaper [13:12] it's out to get out eventually [13:12] 1 l or 2 ll's ? [13:12] BP{k}: i didn't understand about every start of any shell.. could you explain more detailed, please? [13:13] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Umm, all right. That's all good and well. My problem is that when I tried to use installpkg on grub-0.97-i486-8.txz, it made a folder /tmp/boot which contained /. I read the files provided and it didn't say whether to put the package in a particular directory before running the install. [13:13] there is a difference with a login shell, an interactive shell and a restricted shell, also they can be mixed [13:14] $- can be parsed for it iirc [13:14] in bash that is [13:17] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:18] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:18] fxer_ (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:19] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:20] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:22] sahk0: pity, but "deflogin on" in my ~/.screenrc doesn't help here [13:22] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] yeah i figured that out pretty much after i suggested it. [13:25] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:25] sahk0: where did you figured it out? I found only that "deflogin on" makes GNU screen start in login-mode.. But, in my case, aliases still doesn't work, but i don't know why [13:26] see the login option as well [13:26] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:27] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [13:28] try adding shell -$SHELL (replacing it with your shell) in .screenrc [13:29] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [13:30] screen can be a little stubborn sometimes, iircthere was troubl setting TERM from screenrc [13:30] eg shell -bash [13:31] the - makes it a login shell [13:31] a lot of other troubles with as well mancha [13:31] some apps dont like TERM=screen [13:31] they just hang [13:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-122-208-94.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:32] How do you check dependencies of a package? Are there any tools? Or do you just have to read the documentation along with it? [13:32] yes some don't like that term so trying to change it in the .screenrc was an idea but iirc it isn't liking it [13:33] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:33] sahk0: yep, i have read about "-" before shell name. But no effect. :( [13:34] dfrank: what exxactly are you trying to do? [13:34] i used to work around it by setting it in bashrc explicitely [13:34] it has gone now tho although i remember setting it explictely there for a reason, heck even commented it [13:35] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:35] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] it probably was slack 11 and an old screen version [13:35] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:35] sahk0: i have tried to adding to my ~/.screenrc following lines: "shell -/bin/bash" : no effect. Then i have changed it to 'shell "-$SHELL"' : still no effect [13:35] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: Client Quit [13:36] lol you tried the same think twice [13:36] thing* [13:36] screen pretty much ignores any references to login shells etc [13:37] sahk0: after any changings in ~/.screenrc i have starting new screen, of course [13:37] weird think to [13:37] i used sysresc..cd on a very very very old pc with a ticking hd [13:38] ddrescued it in one try without errors [13:38] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:38] i tried it on backtrack 3 with nohd nohotplug (otherwise it wouldn't get there) and a ddrescue package i made and is available at our company ftp [13:38] no luck [13:39] thousands of errors [13:39] which is what i thought it would be like [13:39] same thicking sound [13:39] hey all [13:39] eventually i gave up on the ddrescue and just went with the image that was created by sysreccd [13:39] need some help with cedilla here [13:39] it worked flawlessly [13:40] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:40] i could even mistake all the errors with scandisk [13:40] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [13:40] gtludwig: Keep in mind that if the software didn't come with ##slackware, its more than likely going to be unsupported. [13:40] now it can do what it has never done before for 4 years [13:40] write files to the hd ! [13:40] those sysreqcd people have magic patches [13:41] Dominia, yeah, I know, only cedilla is not a software, but a letter :) [13:41] but i do not want to use it ! so i really need to find out how they did it [13:41] Does it come with Slackware? :D [13:41] it was a 77 mb hard drive on a 25 mhz 386sx pimped out to the full 4 MB ram [13:42] yeah, gtk+ comes with slackware last I checked [13:43] he's talking about cedilla gtludwig [13:43] goarilla, I know... also, it's a gtk+ config [13:44] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] When the Slackbook says, "Packages are built to be extracted in the root directory," does it mean / or /root? I'm thinking it means /, but I want to be sure because I already had to do some funky repair work once. [13:45] / [13:45] OK, thanks [13:45] i think we should include antiword in the slackware system [13:46] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:46] catdoc is better [13:46] it's easy enough to add. [13:46] catdoc ? [13:46] and does xls too [13:46] http://wagner.pp.ru/~vitus/software/catdoc/ [13:46] i like antiword [13:47] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:47] yes catdoc [13:47] seems to do more [13:47] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [13:47] which we dont really want [13:47] it does doc better too. imo [13:48] not the point sahk0 i want to grep doc files [13:48] or ... extract the text from a corrupted doc file [13:48] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:48] when oo fails [13:48] and MS crappy recovery shit stuff which rarely works anyway [13:49] how new is catdoc? hadn't heard of it [13:49] is it OSS ? [13:49] is there a page in english [13:49] its quite old. http://wagner.pp.ru/~vitus/software/catdoc/changelog.html says last release was in 2005 [13:49] all the menus are russian [13:49] antiword is about the same [13:50] last release in 2005 [13:50] iirc [13:50] sahk0: i really can't surf that page the menu it's shibberish [13:50] sahk0, interesting, i don't recall hearing about it, then again i am not into the MS Office stuff [13:50] surf the page? it has the tarball dl link in plain english [13:50] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] oooh it's included in ports [13:51] it handles doc, xls and ppt. its a complete office suite :p [13:51] s/handles/cats [13:51] damn sahk0 you might be on to something [13:51] antiword is 188 K here [13:53] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:53] iirc antiword doesnt have catdoc's -w option which disables word wrapping. By default catdoc output is splitted into lines not longer than 72 (or number, specified by -m option) characters and paragraphs are separated by blank line. With this option each paragraph is one long line. [13:53] but its been a while. not reall sure [13:54] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [13:54] lol it's smaller [13:54] even [13:55] it doesn't have a DESTDIR var in MAkefile [13:55] I don't have an ext4_stage1_5 file for GRUB after installing it. The grubconfig program won't work. [13:55] 1) Why don't I have it, and 2) how do I get it? [13:55] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:56] but the makefile is supereasy and small [13:56] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: "*" [13:58] oye (n=oye@84.120.132.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [13:58] Axius (n=oijhif@92.82.64.255) joined ##slackware. [13:59] dogmeat01 (n=dogmeat@bb219-74-167-190.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [13:59] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@64.134.226.117) joined ##slackware. [13:59] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Does Skype work on Slackware? [14:00] yes [14:01] an older version but it works [14:01] or at least it used to. [14:01] Is it available from Sbopkg? [14:01] probably not [14:01] no idea but you can get a slackbuild [14:01] only for i486 [14:01] Action: nachox bows to StevenR [14:02] hey nachox [14:02] Action: dogmeat01 bows to bows [14:02] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:02] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-207-239.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:02] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:03] does linux work in slackware? [14:03] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-211-136.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:03] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:04] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] dogmeat01 (n=dogmeat@bb219-74-167-190.singnet.com.sg) left irc: "Leaving" [14:05] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:06] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:06] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:08] kleanchap, I successfully installed Skype. I had to copy the binary after install, though. I kept getting segmentation faults. [14:09] no we use the openbsd kernel around here [14:09] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:09] goarilla, Too late, he left. [14:10] crap indead [14:11] taopunk (n=taopunk@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] HFSPLUS (n=GP40MC@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] I am better than ext4 [14:11] Nice for you, now get a coffee [14:13] Why didn't the ext4_stage1_5 file come with GRUB from /extra? [14:13] taopunk (n=taopunk@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:13] Because grub does not support ext4 and you have to hack it a bit [14:13] grub sucks [14:13] NTFS is better than EXT3 [14:13] and ext4 [14:14] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [14:14] ban me [14:14] alien [14:14] Why? [14:14] hey wait an ALIEN noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [14:14] im out [14:14] HFSPLUS (n=GP40MC@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] *snort* [14:14] NTFS is a decent file system, actually.. [14:14] ... heh. [14:14] Hallelujah [14:14] Coward [14:14] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:15] alienBOB: wasnt there a time the channel was +R (or r) ? didnt that make things easier? [14:15] alienBOB, Since I didn't know this and I've already got my system loaded, would you mind helping me out with that? [14:15] No [14:15] No time [14:15] straterra: they kept tweaking it and rewriting stuff [14:15] it's actually nice and fast now [14:16] it's not XFS and it still suffers some fragmentation issues [14:16] but so does ext2/3 [14:16] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "leaving" [14:16] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:20] the MFT and its backup is a big weakness tho [14:20] kitty you if you can not boot an installed slackware system you can use the slackware CD to boot your installed system read the comments at the boot prompt (before the kernel boots) on the CD [14:21] i must say anyone who says boycott novell is an asshole [14:21] their deal has made tremendous strides in samba [14:21] i only hoped it would do the same for ntfs [14:21] not that ntfs-3g is bad [14:21] i just wished for something kernel side [14:22] NTFS = Not Today filesystem [14:22] Do you know any password generator? I need to generate my own dictionaries [14:24] Pig_Pen, I'm in it right now. I boot off the Flash drive I made into a boot disc. It's so slow, though. It also requires having the drive, which I don't always want to mess around with. [14:26] all i can say is either hack grub to support ext4 or install lilo, P.S. i dont know a thing about grub [14:26] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [14:26] im trying to setup lamp on slackware, and this website says to login as mysql, so i typed in 'su mysql' but the prompt still says root@slackware [14:26] how do i log in as mysql? [14:26] no ComputerNoobie [14:26] you need to mysql -u mysql [14:27] or something like that [14:27] http://stanley-garvey.com/lamp1.php [14:27] add -p if you want to put in a password if you need [14:27] it [14:27] Pig_Pen: if you remember me, wireless problems.... it was hardware problem, something with antenna... [14:27] it's usually mysql tho but you have to give it interactivly with that tool and also with mysql_admin iirc [14:27] ah, ok [14:27] it says run "mysql_install_db" as user mysql [14:28] you get the antenna fixed? [14:28] mysql_install_db -u mysql -p [14:28] Pig_Pen, GRUB2 supports ext4, but it's listed as unstable. I don't know if I should try it. [14:30] goarilla, oh ok [14:30] thanks [14:30] Pig_Pen I moved it a bit, and it started working, but this time with wicd [14:30] kitty_: why dont you use lilo? [14:30] do keep in mind ComputerNoobie [14:30] you always have that usb flash drive to boot from as a backup if grub2 goes south [14:30] i agree with sahk0 install lilo [14:30] to create tables for your stuff and assign it users for its stuff and read up on the GRANT, DELETE commands [14:31] don't let your webapp connect as the user mysql [14:31] Can anyone help me with wms? What to choose? xfce or something more basic? [14:32] xfce is the safe bet if you've never gone for only a WM [14:32] goarilla, ok ill keep that in mind [14:32] i just started today, just for learning [14:32] i figured that :D [14:32] :D [14:32] i use fvwm http://imagebin.org/78755 [14:33] http://imagebin.org/78756 i fine tuned the colors a little in the titlebar (cleaned a little more cruft out of the menu too) [14:33] Pig_Pen, why would you suggest fvwm over xfce? [14:34] I've used both and I prefer GRUB. [14:34] Also, the LILO install failed when running the install DVD. [14:34] why ask why? just use what you like, one is not better than the other [14:34] let me guess because it's prettier kitty_ [14:34] kitty_ long boot time on LILO? [14:34] deximat: slackware comes with a bunch of those 7-8. try em and decide yourself [14:35] goarilla, Why does it matter why? [14:35] sahk0 ok [14:35] really, most those window managers only take about 2 megs of disk space, not like having a dozen of them installed is going to hurt anything [14:36] you do know grub can cat files if it knows the fs ? [14:36] which can be a security issue* [14:36] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [14:36] oxiredo (n=dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] Pig_Pen, yeah but I dont have time to learn them all, I want to choose one, to stick with it and to know every bit of it... you know... [14:37] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:37] There are a couple reasons I prefer GRUB. It's just been so long since I've used LILO that I can't remember them all. I don't like having to update it whenever there's a kernel update, though. [14:38] kitty_: slackware stable never updates the kernel if there isnt a security issue.. [14:38] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] sahk0, I might, though. [14:38] oh, right:) [14:38] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] hello happy people [14:39] here is my .fvwm2rc if you want it deximat http://pastebin.com/m4d4422d1 [14:39] you might update the default slackware-kernel ? [14:39] kitty_ firstly I didnt like LILO, but later I use to it... its not bad at all... [14:40] goarilla: i didn't think there was a package by that name [14:40] Pig_Pen: thanks [14:40] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:42] nyRednek: kernel-{generic,generic-smp,...} [14:42] goarilla: ok... [14:43] deximat, It isn't BAD, no. [14:43] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) left irc: "later" [14:44] bender_ (n=bender@93.185.183.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:44] http://pastebin.com/m2a4955d8 deximat here is a better one, i fixed a couple of custom entries for logging in to other window managers that nobody else would have, plus i added some that are found on slackware that i dont normally use [14:44] When using the -m option for installpkg, do you specify the extension of the package to be made? [14:44] I'd rather my boot loader actually be a boot loader and not an OS that just happens to boot other things [14:45] kitty_: the "-m" option?? [14:45] Pig_Pen: nice, thanks, I will try it [14:46] menu [14:46] BP{k}: [14:46] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [14:46] BP{k}, Yes, installpkg -m . It makes a package from the current directory. [14:46] no it doesnt [14:46] thats makepkg [14:46] goarilla, It says it does. [14:46] kitty_: uhm ... proof it. [14:46] and those screenshots i posted, those icons and wallpaper were made by rox (rox --pinboard=PIN) not included with slackware but you can get it at slackbuilds.org [14:47] Azeotrop1 (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [14:47] It says it performs a makepkg on the current directory. [14:48] installpkg does not come with an "-m" switch. [14:48] lets have a look at installpkg's man page [14:48] no -m switch [14:48] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [14:48] not it doesn't [14:48] Pig_Pen: even better .. grep "\-m" /sbin/installpkg [14:49] i really thought he ment -menu [14:49] Well then somebody tell them to fix the Slackbook. [14:49] which page [14:49] give us a link kitty_ [14:49] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:50] http://www.slackbook.org/html/package-management-package-utilities.html [14:50] omg he's right [14:51] kitty_: do note that the slackbook is a bit out of date. In many cases manpage are more acurate. [14:51] How can I find the boot-up messages from the boot before the session I am currently online with? Because this time booting worked but the try before there seems to have been a sporadic error. [14:51] BP{k}, Will check that henceforth. [14:51] boot_message in /boot Tirili [14:52] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) joined ##slackware. [14:52] goarilla: .. fail. [14:52] aah nevermind [14:52] i know BP{k} [14:52] stop saying fail [14:52] Tirili: things like that are stored in /var/log/dmesg or dmesg. but I doubt it actually retains more than one session. [14:52] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:52] goarilla: stop failing then. [14:52] lol [14:52] or messages [14:52] /var/log/dmesg? [14:53] Pig_Pen: how do say to fvwm that it uses this script you wrote? [14:53] /boot/boot_message is only about lilo. [14:53] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:53] check messages or syslog in /var/log [14:53] and recall when it actually happened [14:54] offcourse i'm assuming you got farther than init and syslogd was running [14:56] Action: BP{k} sighs [14:57] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] looks like slackbook.org needs someone to walk through the whole website and fix all the errors [14:58] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "go home" [14:58] mkdir ~/.fvwm [14:59] then copy that to a text file and save as ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc [14:59] Pig_Pen: well, who has the authority to do such? [14:59] not me [14:59] i have no idea [14:59] Pig_Pen: i always just cp /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc ~/.fvwm2rc [15:00] Pig_Pen: or something like that [15:00] http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html look at those names [15:00] Alan Hicks visits here often [15:01] Nick change: hellokitty -> wafflez [15:01] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.189) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i like mine better, smaller, less cruft to change, i dont need a lot of items in the menu [15:03] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:06] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: No route to host [15:06] chris_abela (n=chris2@78.133.41.94) joined ##slackware. [15:06] fonseg (n=bnguyen@58.187.155.177) joined ##slackware. [15:06] darth_mohl (n=chatzill@bb-nu-85-11-236-244.ornskoldsvik.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala /leave" [15:07] i sort of point my finger at you not being a retired person [15:08] that's my point [15:08] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:08] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=chatzill@*.ornskoldsvik.com' by nachox!n=imarambi@200.68.83.121 [15:08] darth_mohl kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [15:08] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [15:09] Action: StevenR throws cookies (HTTP) at nachox [15:09] hehe [15:09] i guess i could have warned him [15:09] nachox: no, you did well. [15:09] naw, he already earned it [15:09] BP{k}: why do you sight i could be right here [15:10] I have installed switch-user plugin in xfce on Slackware 13. When I click on the icon, nothing happens. Is there something that I am missing? [15:10] but oh, well, i get to be unfair every once in a while [15:10] sigh* [15:11] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-34-14.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [15:12] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [15:13] adaptr (n=jgeilman@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:13] what the hell did i miss before the ban? i'm too lazy to read backlog [15:13] :P [15:14] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [15:14] Action: Necos bleeds and laughs [15:14] good ole fire|bird :) [15:15] i dont think my buffer goes back that far, i get about 20 pages and it disapears in to space [15:15] Necos: How's it going? [15:15] alright... we have a bad UPS on our router, so we had to have someone come out to replace the battery in it :( [15:16] Necos, you do trust my judgement, right? [15:16] we have it running in bypass mode [15:16] nachox, i just wanted to be entertained :) [15:17] nvision (n=nvision@g225060075.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:17] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) left irc: [15:17] i was hoping there were some amusing tidbits that i missed [15:17] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.164.96) left irc: "Leaving" [15:17] not for that one, no. [15:18] nachox: did you see the troll from this morning? [15:18] nachox: Dumbix [15:18] Azeotrop1 (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] thumbs, no, sorry, i think stx caught him though. i had a minor breakdown this morning [15:19] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:19] baned his whole isp [15:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.29) joined ##slackware. [15:19] ComputerNoobie (n=peter@64.134.226.117) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:20] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] I cannot find it. But thanks for your help anyway. :) [15:20] on a stock 64-bit slackware 13, if i try to run a 32-bit binary it wont execute at all (meaning no error messages), right? [15:22] correct - you need to follow alien's multilib support page and install 32-bit compatibility package [15:22] it will and if you havent installed the relevant 32 bit libraries, it will crash with an error message about missing libraries [15:22] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [15:22] how would it not show an error message? [15:22] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:23] nachox, i was just unclear [15:23] fonseg (n=bnguyen@58.187.155.177) left irc: "leaving" [15:23] Staden, oh, it's a binary like any other, get whatever binary you want and run ld binary and file binary [15:24] alisonken1home: mirrors.tds.net seems to be working again for rsync [15:25] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [15:26] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:27] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [15:27] BP{k}: yep - I emailed them yesterday and got a response back during my graveyard shift that their x{whatchamacallit} process monitor had died [15:27] they got it back up now [15:28] i was going to install a l4d server using the steam srcds binary, it didnt run, then i realized i was on 64-bit slackware without any 32-bit comat [15:28] compat* [15:28] quote: "For one reason or another xinetd (which controls rsync for us on this box) crashed. [15:28] I gave it a good swift kick this morning and now it seems to be working. Thanks for the heads up" [15:30] nice :) [15:31] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] alisonken1home, it is lovely when people dont wait for their users to tell them something is wrong and get an snmp alert instead :P [15:31] :) [15:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:36] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:36] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Leaving" [15:37] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [15:38] what package contains xmlrpc? [15:39] sahilsk (n=chatzill@59.177.34.244) joined ##slackware. [15:40] "The %prep section of grub.spec failed; results may be incomplete" How bad is that? [15:40] hello there [15:40] I was using quilt on grub.spec. [15:41] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. 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[15:50] simple : i want to update my dvd firmware [15:52] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Ask in #hardware? [15:53] thank you [15:53] i will [15:53] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.63.48) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:54] #hardware [15:58] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.12.184) joined ##slackware. [15:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] zerafuze_ (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242377431.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:59] [21:57] downwater: I'd suggest # rather than here [15:59] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:59] XD [15:59] Nick change: NaCl -> NameStolen [16:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:00] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Nick change: NameStolen -> NaCl [16:04] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] later everyone [16:05] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] <[psyk]> Hey guys. I'm installing slackware on my laptop (x86_64) and I'm having some major issues. To start it off, I created a logical partition (60GB) with fdisk and formatted it to ext4 with the setup tool. about halfway through the installation, it says the disk is full. I have an SCSI hard drive. [16:06] <[psyk]> I think it could be solved if I could have another primary partition, but there's 3 primary partitions and it says that I can't have more than four, not sure what's going on there. [16:06] You can install to a logical partition without problems [16:06] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Looks as if you are not installing to the partition but into the installer's filesystem which is essentially your RAM [16:07] <[psyk]> alienBOB: Is it a problem that I'm using huge.s with an scsi disk? There isn't an scsi on the install disk. [16:07] Howdy. [16:07] huge.s has scsi support built in [16:07] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.53.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:07] Nick change: zerafuze_ -> zerafuze [16:08] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Alan_Hicks: howdy2 [16:08] <[psyk]> alienBOB: ah. Just wondering, how the hell is that happening? lol. it asks me what partition I want to install it to, and I select the 60GB one. [16:08] Low dare Alan_Hicks [16:09] [psyk]: Flip to another virtual terminal in the installer and run "mount". [16:09] [psyk]: you can verify by pressing Alt-F2 to open another terminal in the installer and check if anything at all was installed to /mnt (where your 60 GB partition should be mounted) [16:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] Alan_Hicks: :-) [16:09] alienBOB: What's that about great minds? [16:09] alienBOB: taken a look at the polkit stuff yet? [16:09] <[psyk]> alienBOB, Alan_Hicks: thank you. [16:10] <[psyk]> I'll give it a shot, I'll be back! [16:10] Or is it just that our names begin with "al"? [16:10] <[psyk]> Erm, one thing first [16:10] <[psyk]> Yes, that's exactly it. hahahah [16:11] <[psyk]> I have a primary partition on my drive, 12.6GB, no name, no drive letter, nothing on it. [16:11] anybody with mt-daapd experience know how to troubleshoot the deamon not starting? [16:11] psyk: linux does not use drive letters [16:11] <[psyk]> I'm just worried about removing it because I had a major truecrypt fuck up. [16:11] i do /usr/sbin/mt-daapd start, but nothing appears to happen [16:11] NaCl: I have a set of polkit/ConsoleKit/eggdbus/gobject-introspection SlackBuilds ready and the URL to rworkman's other required stuff, but KDE 4.4.rc1 got in the way, it is giving me headaches [16:12] it says "Starting mt-daapd iTunes server: /usr/sbin/mt-daapd [16:12] alienBOB: Ok, take your time. I have yet to contact the gentoo polkit maintainer. [16:12] [psyk]: No drive letter? POSIX systems don't have drive letters. What exactly do you mean? [16:12] slackware ...hmm [16:12] Do you mean that you've got a /dev/sda1 partition that's not being used? [16:12] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: like /fat-d /fat-e etc [16:12] Alan_Hicks, why introspection? [16:12] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: yep [16:12] mel0n (n=jshanch@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] [psyk]: What partition type is it? [16:13] <[psyk]> Basically, I had truecrypt installed (whole disk encryption) fine and dandy, I wanted to remove it. I started removing it from the recovery disk because I had accidently uninstalled it from my OS. [16:13] <[psyk]> In the middle of a thunderstorm, fuck me. The computer powered off, I lost the recovery disk, and now I'm stuck. [16:13] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: primary [16:14] nvision (n=nvision@g225060075.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:14] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: sorry, I'm still tired >_< it's not formatted [16:14] Axius (n=oijhif@92.82.64.255) left irc: "Leaving" [16:14] er, alienBOB * what does introspection add? [16:14] [psyk]: That's not what I mean. What partition type is it? Linux? Linux swap? VFAT? NTFS? etc. [16:14] thrice`: it is a dependency for another package [16:14] How do I get rid of a hard link without getting rid of the file it links to? [16:14] kitty_: rm [16:15] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: fat32 apparently. [16:15] alienBOB, oh, I didn't know anything outside of gnome's new clutter stuff used it [16:15] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: let me double check, hold on [16:15] Alan_Hicks, Last time I tried that, it deleted the destination as well. [16:15] [psyk]: Then it's probably the OS recovery partition installed by the manufacturer. [16:15] thrice`: redhat is forcing it upon us [16:15] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks: ouch. I almost removed it. hahah [16:15] kitty_: Well then use "rm -i" [16:15] And it is only in order to KDE to the full that I have to add gnome stuff [16:15] Alan_Hicks, The link is /tmp/boot and the destination is /. [16:16] kitty_: That is not a hard link. [16:16] kitty_: you can remove all but one hardlinks [16:16] Alan_Hicks, Well what else is it? [16:16] kitty_: A symlink almost certainly. What does ls -ldh /tmp/boot show? [16:17] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.31.8) joined ##slackware. [16:17] <[psyk]> Alan_Hicks, alienBOB: anyway, I'll deal with truecrypt another day. I really appreciate your help. I'll be back. [16:17] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:17] does a server always has an LAN static IP? [16:17] dissociative: Typically, but that's not a strict requirement. [16:18] I have my personal server with ip configuration by dhcp [16:18] dissociative: a server would benefit from a static IP yes [16:18] and it seems a mess that way [16:18] sonu (n=chatzill@59.177.38.76) joined ##slackware. [16:18] alienBOB, outside of eggbus and pam, polkit doesn't seem to need introspection stuff [16:18] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-172-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Alan_Hicks, drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4.0K 2010-01-07 15:46 boot [16:18] dissociative: in my LAN the server is the only one with a static IP... [16:18] and the server a bit far to going everytime a thing doesnt works [16:18] I've got lots of machines using dhcp - just specify fixed-ip's in the dhcp server for those machines [16:18] thrice`: tried building a recent polkit plus dependencies? [16:19] alisonken1home: exactly [16:19] kitty_: "file /tmp/boot" and you'll learn exactly what that is. [16:20] Alan_Hicks, It says boot: directory, but last time this happened, and I tried to remove it, it started removing all the contents. Which was /. [16:21] kitty_: Then you did something wrong. This is a directory, not a hard link anyhow. [16:21] The link is below boot then [16:21] alienBOB, sure, polkit accepts --disable-introspection . I use 0.95 [16:21] You can only link to directories with symbolic links, which when removed don't remove the contents of their destination anyhow. [16:22] thrice`: all for the better then [16:23] Alan_Hicks, Supposedly yes, but the man page does say you can TRY to make a hard link to a directory and it would only probably fail. [16:23] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:23] kitty_: Did *you* specifically even attempt to do it? [16:24] Alan_Hicks, No, but then why when I try to remove /tmp/boot, does it remove / along with it? [16:24] kitty_: if it's a symlnk - no [16:25] alisonken1home, No, it DOES try to remove / with /tmp/boot. [16:25] kitty_: Then it is not a hard link. As for why it does that, probably because you did something stupid like "rm -fr /some/path/to/tmp/boot/.*" [16:25] HFSPLUS (n=GP40MC@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Yo I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want [16:25] So tell me what you want, what you really really want, [16:25] kitty_: I remove soft links all of the time [16:26] Immundus (n=obi@e179134163.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:26] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:26] if /tmp/boot is a symlink to / - then 'rm /tmp/boot' will remove the symlink and not the files in / [16:27] heh, ops party? [16:27] Just making sure the Spice Girls don't get out of hand. [16:27] Alan_Hicks, All I tried to do was install GRUB. It made a /tmp/boot folder containing a full directory tree. Well, not totally full, as some lower directories are empty, but when I tried to remove /tmp/boot the first time, it moved the real /bin and other folders into trash. I had to load GParted to move them back. [16:27] I have yet to play with hard links, so can't help you if it's a hard link [16:27] Yo I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want [16:27] So tell me what you want, what you really really want, [16:28] HFSPLUS kicked from ##slackware by Alan_Hicks: Alan_Hicks [16:28] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:28] kitty_: Just... how exactly did you try to remove them? [16:28] what was the exact command line did you use [16:28] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:29] are you doing this in X? with root? [16:29] deximat: I'm certain he is. [16:30] I used rm -R ./boot (in the /tmp directory), and that didn't work. [16:30] :S [16:30] why do you use -R? [16:30] So I tried moving it to trash with Thunar. I'm sure I was moving the one in /tmp. [16:30] Because it's a directory. [16:30] kitty_: Bad sysadmin! No biscuit! [16:30] :))) [16:31] Yes well rm -R should have worked. [16:32] kitty_: Not if the directory was populated. [16:32] you shouldnt use x with root, it is a bad thing, -R removes recursevly all in that directory, as the delete command in thunrar... [16:32] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Client Quit [16:32] Alan_Hicks: is the 3rd edition of slackbook going to get rid of the zipslack and other stuff that is no longer accurate? [16:32] guys, I am new to slack and linux in general. I am currently dual booting Vista and Slack 13. I am currently using lilo. Could somebody link to good tutorial which explains boot process and how to configure bootloaders(lilo/grub) ? [16:32] nyRednek: yes [16:32] chris_abela (n=chris2@78.133.41.94) left irc: "Leaving" [16:32] deximat, I know, that's why I use it. Without -R, it doesn't work. Neither does rmdir work if it's full. [16:32] neogooglian: Good question! You're going to do well here. [16:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-234-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] hmmm [16:33] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Alan_Hicks: another question...when is the expected publication of slackbook 3? i'll plan on buying it from the slackware store [16:34] nyRednek: No ETA at this time. [16:34] thanks Alan_Hicks.I'd appreciate some good tutorial that you might have found useful :D [16:34] neogooglian: www.slackbook.org and www.slackbasics.org [16:34] deximat, rm echos " is a directory"; rmdir echos " is not empty." [16:34] neogooglian: I'm trying to think of one, but it's not coming to me. Are there any particular questions you have? I'll do my best to answer them. [16:34] Alan_Hicks: ok...if you need a little editing help, i'll do what i can(not saying i'm a guru, but i've used slack for a LONG time) [16:34] kitty_ but as I know... when you do rm -R somelink it will do rm -R somelinkslocation and all directories and files under, you want to remove just link not his target... [16:35] is there a way to install a slackware client in a pxe server without having to install it in the hd of my laptop? [16:35] fire|bird: Unfortunately the slackbook isn't great on this subject. That's on my TODO for v3. [16:35] ok thanks. I'll try that firebird [16:35] Alan_Hicks: Ah, ok. Just thought I'd mention those, they are very helpful for many other topics. [16:35] dissociative: I don't understand the question. [16:35] speaking of editing, has anyone mentioned that error on slackbook.org in the packagetool section ? [16:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [16:36] Pig_Pen: error? [16:36] yeah, a while ago an error was discovered [16:36] whats that link again kitty_ ? [16:36] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [16:36] I want something like booting a slackware 13.0 installation from a pxe server [16:36] from a laptop [16:36] deximat, Right, but it isn't a link. Else it would have the l attribute and have a ---> thing after the filename. [16:36] Alan_Hicks: he's talking about setting up a server to serve slack to diskless workstations [16:37] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:37] dissociative: You want your laptop to be a PXE server? [16:37] like having a root partition in a seerveer [16:37] Alan_Hicks , Why doesn't slackware has GUI package manager like other distros? [16:37] sahilsk (n=chatzill@59.177.34.244) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] Pig_Pen, /tmp/boot is the file. It's listed as a directory, not a link. However, when I try to remove it, it removes / and its contents. [16:37] dissociative: Ah! You want a server setup so that clients can PXE boot a complete Linux system from it? [16:37] Alan_Hicks: no the other way [16:37] yes [16:37] neogooglian: Why do other distros have a GUI package manager? [16:37] it would be nice [16:38] dissociative: Check out the "Linux Terminal Server Project", but don't expect this to be easy. :^) [16:38] kitty_: that error on slackbook.org about installpkg -m that does not exist [16:38] dissociative: the k12 project does that with redhat [16:38] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:38] lol. I Kinda got used to it. GUI is more initutive i guess. [16:38] http://slackbook.org/html/package-management-package-utilities.html [16:38] kitty_: "rm -R /tmp/boot" [16:38] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:38] man page trumps slackbook [16:39] Slack's package mgmt is not bad though. [16:39] Alan_Hicks, That's what I tried last time and it didn't work. Which led me to try it in Xfce. [16:39] I like it - along with slackpkg and sbopkg [16:39] isnt installpkg something intuitive? [16:39] Table 18-1. installpkg Options the -m switch [16:39] kitty_: Do it now, as root, and see what happens. [16:40] Pig_Pen: Huh... thanks for pointing that out. [16:40] No idea how it got in there. [16:40] Alan_Hicks, rm: cannot remove root directory `/tmp/boot' [16:40] kitty_: And based on this error message, you assumed that /tmp/boot was a hard link to / didn't you? [16:41] Alan_Hicks, Actually no, that's why I still tried to remove it. [16:41] kitty_: "rm -fr /tmp/boot" [16:41] kitty_ try: unlink link [16:41] MAssEy (i=1000@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [16:42] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:42] Alan_Hicks, I stopped it halfway through because it was taking a while and I remembered I should use removepkg. However, at that point my /bin, /boot, /dev, and other folders were gone. [16:42] can even a terminal client can boot to X11? with all stuff [16:42] kitty_: That's because you did something wrong. [16:42] kitty_: Wait a minute.... hold on... [16:42] kitty_: mount [16:42] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] Did you do something incredibly stupid like bind mount / to /tmp/boot? [16:43] deximat, unlink: cannot unlink `boot': Is a directory [16:43] kitty_: this time, do not try to use a GUI tool for this [16:43] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:43] alienBOB, I wasn't planning on it. [16:43] Good [16:44] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:44] sonu (n=chatzill@59.177.38.76) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]" [16:44] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Alan_Hicks, All I did the first time was try to installpkg on GRUB, but it was in the wrong directory. THIS time, I don't know why it happened. [16:44] Well folks, I gotta go. Supper's waiting. [16:44] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.165.43) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Later. [16:45] hi all [16:45] Alan_Hicks, Good evening [16:47] alienB0B, I found many scripts written by you. Nice work. :) [16:47] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:48] deximat, Umm, just a plain mount command tells me "/dev/root on / type ext4 (rw,barrier=1,data=ordered)" & "/dev/hda1 on /tmp/boot type ext4 (rw)" What the hell? [16:48] when compiling kernel does -j still applies? [16:48] kitty_, ls -l /dev/root [16:48] gtludwig, sure, "make -j4 all" will work fine [16:49] thrice`, can i have your autograph [16:49] thrice`, "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-01-07 09:44 /dev/root -> hda1" [16:49] thrice`: ty [16:49] yeah, your root partition is bind-mounted to /tmp/boot kitty_. that means, rm -rf /tmp/boot = "rm -rf /" [16:50] thrice`, Why did that happen? [16:50] thrice`, I issued no mount commands today. [16:50] kitty_, something did, then [16:50] thrice`, Well, 'today' is an over-statement, but between my machine being normal and what it is right now, I didn't. [16:51] thrice`, Where's the file that says how to mount at startup? [16:51] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] kitty_ you run xserver on root, you dont know what have you done... :( graphical thing on root is bad... :( [16:51] /etc/fstab kitty_ [16:51] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:52] goarilla, Oh yeah, geez. Thanks [16:52] deximat, I know it's "bad", but it never harmed my SuSE system. [16:52] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:53] deximat, I don't think that really had anything to do with this specifically. [16:53] kitty_ i just say you cant see what thing are exec -ing [16:53] deximat, Directly, rather [16:53] kitty_ just giving it as an option... [16:53] in some enviroments there are auto mount thing... maybe there got something wrong.. [16:54] deximat, You mean DE's? I've only used FVWM and Xfce. [16:54] kitty_ not sure... [16:54] i have to go now.. [16:54] good luck with soloving [16:55] kitty_, we will have no clue HOW it happened - only you can figure that much out ;) anyway, that's what happened [16:55] My fstab seems fine. [16:55] deximat, Thanks [16:56] thrice`, How do I fix it, though? [16:56] thrice`, Just by a reboot, since my fstab is correct? [16:56] how do you fix the fact that you just removed half of your / partition? you reinstall [16:56] yes you reinstall [16:56] your system is broken [16:56] thrice`, No, I already fixed that this morning. I don't want it to happen again. [16:57] you could debug your app [16:57] strace or gdb [16:57] No, I mean just for now. How do I fix how it's mounted? [16:57] kitty_, ok, then you can try rebooting to see if it remounts itself [16:58] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] <[psyk]> I'm back, and with some success. [16:58] Also, I didn't need to reinstall. The folders were in /root/.local/share/Trash/files since I did it with Thunar [16:58] <[psyk]> Well it's highly dissapointing that I didn't figure out WHY it wasn [16:58] So I moved them back to their rightful place with GParted. [17:00] <[psyk]> Well it's highly dissapointing that I didn't figure out WHY it wasn't installing to ram this time, that kind of killed the fun of solving it. but anyway, it installed fine. except for lilo... "Warning: unable to determine video adapter in use" "Warning: video adapter does not support VESA BIOS" "Fatal: first sector of /dev/sda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature" I have an ASUS g51vx, with an nvidia geforce gtx 260M [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-236.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] Anyway, I'll try a reboot. Then I have to go anyway so good evening. [17:00] Thanks for the help. [17:01] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [17:01] fxer__ (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:02] alisonken1home, You too, even though it seemed as if I wasn't paying attention. [17:02] kitty_ (n=kitty@c-76-28-70-231.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] <[psyk]> do you think mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/tmp && /mnt/tmp/sbin/lilo -r /mnt/tmp would work? [17:03] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] <[psyk]> im assuming I'd also need something else to allow booting past the 1024th cylinder, right? [17:04] <[psyk]> That is, if I actually know what's going on here. lol [17:04] oye (n=oye@84.120.132.229.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: [17:06] <[psyk]> Well, I guess I'll try to install lilo on a usb instead of the superblock [17:07] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] why not install on the mbr [17:07] lilo no longer suffers from that ancient cylindeer limit [17:07] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [17:08] if lilo.conf has boot=/dev/sda in it then it will install to the mbr [17:08] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.74.58) joined ##slackware. [17:08] i'm just saying i don't know why'd you put a boot record on a partition [17:09] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=chatzill@*.ornskoldsvik.com expired. [17:09] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=chatzill@*.ornskoldsvik.com' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:09] not in the kernel stanzas but in the top part where the general config options are [17:10] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.27.248) joined ##slackware. [17:11] alienBOB, my dumbass forgot to put initrd in lilo yesterday, that's why i was getting the error [17:11] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i noticed after messing with the initrd-tree.tar.gz file, adding sleeps everywhere and never seeing it happen [17:11] lol [17:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i'd rather just make a custom kernel [17:11] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [17:12] i've never liked initrd or udev [17:12] jeev: I believe it's because sleep is a command not an ash built-in [17:12] there was sleep in init already [17:12] skywise, i need it for this i think, plus i neex ext4 module for xen [17:13] once pivot-root is called within the initrd, sleep is available as a command [17:13] whats superblock [17:13] first block/sector of a bootable partition ? [17:13] its a block able to leap tall buildings in a single bound [17:13] or that [17:14] bye [17:14] not on a partition, but on the drive [17:14] altho you don't need to mark partitions anyway [17:14] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [17:14] drive [17:14] that's the mbr [17:14] first sector of a disk [17:14] fxer_ (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] any alisonken1home, im happy, this dual dualcore 265SE opteron, 4gb of funny ram lol. i set xen to 512 mb and 1cpu and kde was killing it in nxserver.. so upped it to 2 cpu and 1536 mb ram.. non-vt cpu by the way. works well [17:15] good [17:15] kde was killing it ? [17:15] superblocks are basically the partiton descriptor [17:16] is it a linux boot manager thing only ? [17:16] something was killing it [17:16] it's a vps hehe [17:16] jeev, the only way you can make it slower is to use it remotely now [17:16] xen virtual private i had built on this slack box.. [17:16] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] yep i know Skywise but actual usage was HIGH [17:17] goarilla, not its a characteristic of the fs [17:17] so its linux filesystem dependant ? [17:17] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] ^MAssEy^ (n=msy135@90.149.76.181) joined ##slackware. [17:17] http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-filesystem-superblock.html [17:17] i have extra servers, might as well mess around with it [17:17] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] i'm all for learning [17:18] <[psyk]> OK, so I fixed the lilo issue. Next on my list is wifi. I'm totally stumped, I've never had to set up wifi before. Plus, this is my first time in a KDE enviorment. I'm a gnome man. No clue what to do. [17:18] kde should run with 512 mb ram just fine [17:18] <[psyk]> I'm going to do a bit of googling and see if I can figure it out. [17:18] install wicd [17:18] from extra [psyk] [17:19] i just drank http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/2197652851_36fc19813e.jpg and that means bye bye for me.. gona put me to sleeeeeeep [17:19] <[psyk]> goarilla: heh [17:19] safe for work [17:19] have a good rest and no HANGOVER [17:20] it's yogurt drink, why would it give me a hangover [17:20] <[psyk]> tbh this went from a fun learning adventure to a shitty fix a thousand problems adventure. Mainly because when I fix something, I have absolutely NO CLUE how I did it. This is wack. O_o [17:20] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1542056938.html who would not want this? [17:20] egregor_ (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:20] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] Pig_Pen, i wouldn't [17:21] How come a command I placed in /etc/rc.d/rc.local is not executing at boot, though if I run the script manually it works? [17:21] i thought you were hitting the boozeasauce jeev :D [17:22] which cmd mrselfpwn [17:22] mrselfpwn: did you set the executable flag on the script? [17:22] egregor_ (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:22] Pig_Pen, who wouldn't want this? http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1539494147.html [17:22] mrselfpwn: Ignore me, sorry. Its been a long night :> [17:22] <[psyk]> goarilla: this would be fine if I still had my box, because now I have to reboot every five minutes, try troubleshooting, reboot, find something else to try, reboot. rinse and repeat. [17:22] :) [17:22] Nick change: fxer__ -> fxer [17:23] <[psyk]> goarilla: so if you know what you're talking about, a nudge in the right direction would be more than appreciated. [17:23] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.23.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:24] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:24] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:24] install wicd from extra/ on one of the slackware cd's [17:25] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] <[psyk]> goarilla: thanks. I'll give it a try. [17:27] <[psyk]> goarilla: but uhh, before I reboot, am I going to be manually setting up the connection? 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[17:32] I have a little bit hardware problem with my personal server [17:33] Immundus (n=obi@e179134163.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout" [17:33] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:34] I once tried to connect a crt monitor and I think that I touched the power cord of the power supply and I heard like a sound of a spark and it suddenly shutted off, now since that the server no longers turns the power of when I use shutdown -h now [17:34] congrats, you friend your PSU :P [17:34] I tried with another psu and the same thing happens [17:35] I think that the problems seems in the motherboard [17:35] and I even did a cmos reset [17:35] and still the same thing happens [17:35] gtludwig (i=1000@150.162.165.43) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:36] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:36] thats the smoke factor, once that smoke escapes from an electronic piece of equipment it is hard to put it back in [17:38] Nick change: ech -> Ech [17:38] joker [17:40] filesmasta (n=filesmas@92.1.247.78) joined ##slackware. [17:40] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.29) left irc: [17:40] HOT NEW TORRENT SEARCH SITE http://Torrentpirates.org [17:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*n=filesm*@92.1.247.*' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [17:40] filesmasta kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [17:41] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] rofl [17:41] Perish [17:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] fools [17:45] Tutattis (n=Tutattis@adsl-127.79.107.4.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:45] hey, i encrypted a lvm partition on my hdd using lukFormat cipher. if i do a simple remove/delete tables (quick format) is the encryption lost? I mean if i create new partition table and partitions there wont be an encryption there.. right? [17:47] Ermm... it's encrypted right? So without the key, your disk will look like random bites [17:49] But if you want to get rid of encrypted data securely, run a data wiper over your disk at least once [17:49] hey guys i up to the partition section of installing slackware 13.0 [17:49] and when i enter "fdisk /dev/hda" [17:50] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [17:50] it comes up with this [17:50] Don't paste here! [17:50] you will not be able to write the partition table. note: sector size is 2048 (not 512) [17:50] device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor SUN, SGI or OSF disklabel [17:50] Building a new DOS disklable with disk identifier 0x41917a5b. [17:50] changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. [17:50] after that, of course, the previous content wont be recoverable. [17:50] warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) [17:50] sorrry [17:50] Hmmm slackboy is slacking [17:50] You should have been kicked from the channel for doing that [17:50] sorry but am noobie with slackware [17:51] would anyone like to help?? [17:51] alienBOB, so the encryption is lost. If i make a new partitions table with my new partitions those wont be encrypted [17:51] IS there data on that disk that you want to keep? [17:51] no [17:51] Tutattis: indeed [17:52] yeh it has ubuntu server but i dont need it. [17:52] btw i but random data on my driver [17:52] with dd [17:52] mel0n: then just wipe your disk and let fdisk create new partitions the way you like ot [17:52] Tutattis: good [17:52] i think this is almost as good as wiping [17:52] :d [17:53] mel0n, maybe you could try cfdisk, i think it's easier. [17:53] Just delete the partitions mel0n, then create new ones [17:53] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] you shoudl probably reboot after you mess with the partitions, to be sure [17:55] alienBOB, when i encrypt a partition, where is the information that tells it how to decrypt&encrypt the data stored at? [17:55] Tutattis: the device mapper does that for you [17:55] also never use disk partitioning and filesystem tools on mounted partitions [17:56] mel0n: sounds like you ran "dd" on that disk to wipe the MBR [17:57] anyone have experience with setting up an initrd for use with dmraid? [17:57] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:57] ie fakeraid /dev/mapper/ devices as root partition [17:57] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] <[psyk]> goarilla: no dice. [18:01] mrselfpwn: http://www.pastey.net/131118 [18:01] neogooglian (n=neogoogl@59.92.112.189) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] Nick change: paissad-acer -> paissad [18:09] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] <[psyk]> goarilla, just needed a bit of config. Alan_Hicks and alienB0B, thank you again. I appreciate all of your time. [18:12] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:12] <[psyk]> alienBOB, whoops, spelled it with a 0 >_< so used to tab completion... [18:12] <[psyk]> how's everyone doing on this fine evening? [18:12] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:13] wow wtf weird, has anyone see lilo pop out the msg "part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error" and then fail? [18:13] ... [18:14] that's pretty bad... [18:15] sounds like your boot device just screwed the pooch [18:15] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-172-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:15] well it seems to read it just fine [18:15] i just dd'd the usb boot img to a flash stick i had and it booted, no problem reading from/writing to the drive [18:17] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [18:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:18] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:19] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:21] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] fwc, did you use -R to create the initrd? [18:22] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:22] apparently not? [18:24] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [18:26] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:30] <[psyk]> so, I was wondering how I can configure my taskbar to look a little less bubbly and disgustingly plastic-like. Like in this screenshot: http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/97644-1.jpg [18:30] <[psyk]> I've never worked with KDE before so I don't know any of the customization apps like metacity for gnome. [18:31] oda, not using an initrd right now, this is for another machine [18:31] oda, just booting off a PATA drive, and its the only thing referenced in lilo.conf [18:32] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: "*" [18:33] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [18:36] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] ran lilo -v6, and it failsin pf_hard_disk_scan: /dev/sdb2... which is part of my fakeraid array, partition 2 in the array exists beyond the end of /dev/sdb (its RAID0) and I assume that's why its freaking out [18:36] is there a way to tell lilo to ignore /dev/sdb? [18:39] Tutattis (n=Tutattis@adsl-127.79.107.4.tellas.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] should i format my root "/" partition as ext4 or ext3 or other? [18:40] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] hello slackers [18:41] anyone? [18:41] http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100107/tuk-man-gets-genitals-stuck-in-pipe-6323e80.html [18:42] grazymax (n=grazymax@host207-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:42] ah, got it, disk=/dev/sdb;inaccessible;ignore-table did it [18:42] hahahahahaha [18:42] lol [18:43] he had no explantion to how his penis got stuck in it [18:43] mel0n, use ext3 [18:44] mel0n, I hear good things about ext4, but I would leave at least /boot as ext2 [18:44] because atomic writes are not garaunteed to be done in order... however, there have been kernel patches to fix the problem [18:45] so if you want to run something beyound 2.6.30, you can use ext4 with more stability [18:45] Besides, ext4 is probably best for fast writes, so only /home or anything high traffic really benefits from it [18:45] thanks man ill do ext3. any idea how long it will take to format 130gb with ext3 fs? [18:45] it doesn't take that long [18:45] 15 minutes or so for my 160 [18:46] yomomma (n=nuke@66.207.184.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:46] yeh just finished lol! i cant wait to try out slackware! [18:47] sad guy to get his dick stuck in a pipe >.> [18:47] Hyena (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [18:47] gives a new meaning to "pipe fitter" [18:47] lol [18:47] <[psyk]> Necos, where can I download qtcurve? Apparently they don't have a website or a sourceforce, and there's nothing in the default "OFFICIAL" repository list for qtcurve* [18:47] anyone know any configuring articles for fail2ban and apf for slack? [18:48] Nick change: Hyena -> Xeliaa [18:48] [psyk]: which QtCurve? [18:48] <[psyk]> o_O it took me 30 seconds to do a fast ext4 format on a 60gb partition [18:48] lol pig_pen [18:48] <[psyk]> BP{k}, qtcurve-kde4 [18:48] [psyk]: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/QtCurve-KDE4/ [18:48] <[psyk]> BP{k}, for slackware 13.0 x86_64 [18:49] <[psyk]> >_< I really need to add that repository to my list [18:49] Why, yes, yes you do. ;-) [18:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left ##slackware ("*I'm a PC and I run Linux*"). [18:50] <[psyk]> BP{k}, what's the repository link? Sorry, I'm a nub. [18:50] [psyk]: repository for what? [18:51] <[psyk]> BP{k}, slackbuilds.org -- I know how to add it, I just wouldn't be able to find the link [18:51] [psyk]: add to what? [18:51] PsYkHe (i=PsYkHe@187.36.145.178) joined ##slackware. [18:51] <[psyk]> BP{k}, slapt-get [18:51] ... [18:51] <[psyk]> BP{k}, I know I'm an idiot, thanks for rubbing it in. :< [18:51] ... [18:51] Why, yes, yes you are. ;-) [18:52] <[psyk]> ]: [18:52] [psyk]: SlackBuilds.org doesn't host any packages, so there is nothing to add. [18:52] <[psyk]> o_o [18:53] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:53] lol [18:54] qtcurve is on slackbuilds [18:54] Necos: yes but he doesn't know how to use that, he only uses slapt-get. [18:54] sorry, i was making a dvd in k3b ^.^ [18:54] well goddamn it, get sbopkg [18:54] Necos: damn you. [18:55] you're supposed to poke these people with a stick first .. then offer the solution .. ;) [18:55] lol [18:55] <3 BP{k} [18:55] :P [18:55] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.29.253) joined ##slackware. [18:56] heh, the tagline for sbopkg should be "sbopkg -- making slacking that much more productive" or something like that :) [18:56] [psyk]: Since I like to be helpful (for various meanings of the word); can I suggest you read up what slackbuild scripts are and what they do (there are some good articles over on the slackwiki, and the howto and faq at slackbuilds.org ... and then go from there. [18:57] and who the hell uses slapt-get? that evil piece of software [18:57] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [18:57] i use slapt-get and linuxpackages.net [18:57] *shudder* [18:58] Action: Necos stabs mancha [18:58] gtfo :P [18:58] Necos: it's not that bad providing you know how to use it and use it wisely. As long as you use it with just the slackwre official packages there is little you can do wrong. But using it with 3rd party repositories can be a receipe for peasoupbased disaster. [18:58] heh, before you murder me i should say: just kidding :) [18:58] BP{k}, as was just exhibited a few moments ago by our friend [psyk] [18:58] <[psyk]> BP{k}, will do, thanks, i appreciate it [18:58] i don't think package tools really save you that much trouble over compiling from source [18:59] especially if you want optional features [18:59] mancha: Luckily I know you better than that. ;) Don't make me get out a wooden spoon to stab you ;) [18:59] Skywise, you are wrong :) [18:59] sure they do, you make one package and deploy to all 10 of your boxes [18:59] packaging makes a whole lot of sense! [18:59] <[psyk]> mancha> sure they do, you make one package and deploy to all 10 of your boxes [18:59] <[psyk]> qft [18:59] maybe, but ./configure;make;make install don't hurt too much [18:59] or you compile all your packages, and if you have to reinstall for some reason, you don't have to do it again [18:59] BP{k} heh, i am glad you know i am joking, death by spooning can't be too much fun. [19:00] mancha: depends for who ;) [19:00] Skywise, until you have to remove a package [19:00] it depends on the size of the spoon [19:00] not all makefiles hav uninstall targets [19:00] compiling source into packages is very nifty :-D [19:00] Necos, right, and also remving it is a one-liner vs having to scavenger to see where things were instlaled to [19:00] says the guy who works on src2pkg [19:00] heh [19:01] the only problem with the 1 package for 10 machines thing is that the machines have to be 100% identitical for it to really be an okay idea [19:01] one day i'll use a package tool, just after i get all my servers running the same kernel version [19:01] also, say you have a pentium 500 10-quad core titanium glx-ng [19:01] and a 486 [19:01] when its spring time in Alaska its 40 below [19:01] which i do [19:01] you can compile on the first, package, and then install on the 486 :) [19:01] i got a 486/66 dx2 dns server [19:01] lol [19:01] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.74.58) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] awesome [19:02] If you ever see an box with an button on it, would you press it? [19:02] Action: tuxdev drools with envy [19:02] Ech (n=Me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [19:03] nille_, don't ask silly things. Of Course! [19:03] hehe [19:03] the build this for your next poker night http://nanok.com/msy/ [19:03] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:03] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] i'm the kind of guy who watches what happens when the other guys press the buttons first [19:05] an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure [19:05] It needs to bigger. and colored red. [19:06] yes some modifications are needed [19:06] <[psyk]> BP{k}, can you give me one last bit of help :3 [19:06] [psyk]: I already did! [19:06] and you need to write "do not press the red button" on it [19:06] <[psyk]> BP{k}, ouch... [19:06] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:06] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [19:06] [psyk]: Alas, ask a question and we'll see. [19:07] <[psyk]> BP{k}, http://pastebin.com/d53f8c7c0 gcc is up to date, I already checked. the script extracted everything correctly, the correct version is specified in the .slackbuild file. [19:07] <[psyk]> so I'm stumped [19:08] _anthis (n=anthis@got.high.and.ended.up.forgetting.his.user-name.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] nille_, indeed. And put a molly-guard on it for good measure [19:08] anthis (n=anthis@got.high.and.ended.up.forgetting.his.user-name.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:08] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:09] Nick change: _anthis -> anthis [19:09] <[psyk]> BP{k}, a lot easier to have you make fun of me for a while and then answer than to spend a while Googling, if you have any objection to that I guess it's off to the search engine. [19:09] [psyk]: full install? [19:09] [psyk] "-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- broken" that doesn't look right [19:09] <[psyk]> BP{k}, the reason being, I'd have no idea where to start searching from, the best I can do is make a helloworld script in C :P I'm more of a Perl man [19:09] what slackware version? [19:10] <[psyk]> 13.0 x86_64 [19:10] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, yup, and fresh. [19:10] work $ARCH set [19:10] wrong [19:10] http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64. [19:10] http://scitedaily.com/googles-book-scanning-technology-revealed/ [19:11] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, I already did that [19:11] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-77.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:12] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, oh shi- I put arch=x86-64 [19:12] [psyk]: # [19:12] /usr/bin/gcc -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -o [19:12] # [19:12] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, I feel pretty dumb right about now. lol [19:12] # [19:12] /usr/bin/gcc -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -o [19:12] # [19:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:12] /usr/bin/gcc -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -o [19:12] # [19:12] XGizzmo, argh... stop it! [19:12] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, I saw it the first time... [19:12] /usr/bin/gcc -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -o I don't think you did. [19:12] sorry [19:12] <[psyk]> XGizzmo, heh [19:13] XGizzmo: you tell him! ;) [19:13] "Edit your shell's inititialization files to set it, e.g. in $HOME/.bashrc or the equivalent " [19:13] thats a bad idea [19:13] and why is that? [19:13] if you compile a kernel, you will get in trouble. [19:14] because kernel build uses $ARCH [19:14] Action: nille_ *kicks XGizzmo flood [19:14] it's not arch=x86_64, but ARCH=x86_64 [19:14] just try it out. [19:15] <[psyk]> case sensitivity ftl [19:15] Razec (i=1000@187-27-195-243.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:15] hehe So you just unset ARCH before you compile a kernel [19:15] cteg: Okay that _might_ be a problem, but seriously if you compile your own kernel, you should know what you are doing anyway. [19:15] i have a ./sbopkg in /root where i set my varibles and call sbopkg from there [19:16] BP{k}: yeah sure. was just saying. [19:16] like that "ARCH=x86_64 PKGTYPE=txz OUTPUT="/var/cache/packages/sbopkg" /usr/sbin/sbopkg" [19:16] <[psyk]> I like BP{k} more than XGizzmo. He may be mean but he doesn't flood [19:17] <[psyk]> just saying [19:17] >.> [19:17] <[psyk]> Actually, I have to withdraw that [19:17] <[psyk]> I like XGizzmo the most because he's the only person that has helped me today without reminding me of how big of an idiot I am. [19:18] <[psyk]> You know what, I hate you all equally. [19:18] just because we don't remind you of it doesn't mean it's not any less true [19:18] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [19:19] lol [19:19] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-27-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:19] ^.^ [19:19] <[psyk]> s/I hate you all/I hate Necos the most/ [19:19] \o/ [19:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:19] [psyk]: we all hate you anyway. ;) [19:20] <[psyk]> s/I hate Necos the most/I hate Necos and BP{k} the most/ [19:20] I can feel the love in this channel [19:20] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm <-- o.O [19:20] <[psyk]> well, AlienBOB doesn't hate me, I don't think [19:21] yes he does. [19:21] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] he does... he sent me an email saying so [19:21] <[psyk]> hahahahah [19:21] its just winter time. why are all so excited about some snow. [19:21] Action: nille_ hands out E to increase to love here [19:22] nille_: about handing out some booze :) [19:22] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [19:22] No i'm drinking that now [19:22] not enuff for you [19:23] <[psyk]> BP{k}, I'm going to hack you with the mp3 virus [19:23] But I hate everybody equally, so it is not that bad [19:23] <[psyk]> BP{k}, then I'll boot windows 3 and hack your stereo using bonzai buddy and steal your music [19:24] <[psyk]> BP{k}, followed by using comet cursor to cook spaghetti in your microwave, then beaming it to my desk using top secret nasa technology from a satellite in outer space. [19:24] <[psyk]> sound good? [19:24] BP{k} but i do have some sleepingpills :) [19:25] nille_: nah, have plenty of booze here. :) [19:25] then mix [19:25] nille_: nah, some is not intended for mixing :) [19:26] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:26] is that true? i never met anyone like that [19:28] nille_: of course. Like Ardbeg 10 y.o, Couvoisier cognac, Makers Mark Bourbon .. way to good stuff for mixing. [19:29] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.74.99) joined ##slackware. [19:32] ooh now i get what you ment, and then you right you doesn't mix them or any islay wisky ever. but you can take a snack every now and then [19:32] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.31.8) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@186.97.31.8) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [19:32] that stuff just tastes like wood to me [19:33] woodpecker it doesn't taste wood [19:33] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.32.60) joined ##slackware. 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[19:38] thanks [19:39] Skywise: well technically speaking, Laphroaig owe me a years rent in whisky. ;) [19:39] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242377431.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: [19:39] mel0n (n=jshanch@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [19:39] yow! [19:39] (okay, it's only a wee dram, but still the idea is nice) [19:39] i had an islay days before xmas. but going to an islay tripp would be like heaven [19:39] that musta been some party [19:40] deximat: I don't exactly such a site exists as it quite depends on your disk, needs etc. [19:40] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.120.133.112) joined ##slackware. [19:40] deximat: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/ [19:41] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*n=filesm*@92.1.247.* expired. [19:41] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*n=filesm*@92.1.247.*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:41] deximat: minium would be a three partition layout, / /home and swap [19:41] you don't really partition linux like you do windows [19:41] yeah... that one I read but its old... [19:41] I dont use linux for 2 days [19:41] i wouldn't make different partition [19:41] I use it for 1 year [19:41] I know what for are partitions in linux [19:41] usually, i put 1gb for swap and the rest for the fs [19:41] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] <[psyk]> so, after furiously googling for the past 15 minutes I'm unable to find a working link to/a working package for kcontrol. >:/ [19:41] don't really even need swap on most machines now [19:42] Skywise... nevermind... [19:42] if you got lots of drives, you can make them a raid [19:43] <[psyk]> does anyone want to nudge me in the right direction [19:43] or lvm [19:43] [psyk]: what do you need kcontrol for? [19:43] deximat: its still valid. if you don't go for just one / partition no matter if the howto is from 2005 or 1969 [19:43] <[psyk]> BP{k}, themes that dont look like shit :P [19:43] you can always mount new drives to any place you want [19:44] its not like windows [19:44] [psyk]: kcontrol is something out of KDE 3.x series, it doesn't exist in KDE4. [19:44] <[psyk]> BP{k}, heh, then why are there themes on kde-look.org in the kde 4 section that require kcontrol [19:44] [psyk]: the equivalent in KDE4 is /usr/bin/systemsettings [19:44] cteg, yeah, but space is not the same now and then... for example he says for / it is good 16 MB ... [19:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] deximat, what is it you want to know? [19:45] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [19:46] you dont know that... i see [19:46] 16mb? you must have read something else [19:47] <[psyk]> BP{k}, thanks. [19:47] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "A little boy who had a big hallucination..." [19:47] nix_chix3r (n=hellokit@97-127-217-192.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] yarvin (n=yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.29.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:51] yarvin (n=yarvin@49-217-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] cteg: Says for boot: Quite small, a complete image with some extras fit on a single floppy so 5 MB should be plenty. [19:51] my boot is 17 MB [19:51] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-420449.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [19:52] that wouldn't leave much space [19:52] use an usb stick then [19:52] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-420449.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:53] echo 32313531477392076057718453002P | dc [19:54] I just say that documentation is old [19:54] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] <[psyk]> last question, how am I supposed to install a custom theme in kde4? The theme manager doesn't list qtcurve themes and anything I found on Google just said to use kcontrol. /usr/bin/systemsettings doesn't have anything for themes. [19:55] giuppy (n=giuppy@host94-79-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] [psyk]: have you considered visiting #kde? [19:56] <[psyk]> :/ I'll go. [19:56] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.204) joined ##slackware. [19:56] hersonls__ (n=hersonls@187.40.53.42) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] mes (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [19:58] [psyk] systemsettings > advanced > Desktop tema But i use non english kde so it might be wrog names [19:59] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [19:59] Action: [psyk] facepalm [20:00] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-20-24.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:01] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:02] <[psyk]> Well apparently that's not how you install qtcurve. [20:02] Action: [psyk] double facepalm [20:02] <[psyk]> qtcurve themes* [20:02] Action: [psyk] triple facepalm [20:05] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:06] hello [20:06] how can i control which soundcard is my default? [20:06] my browser isn't playing sound but other programs are able to [20:07] oh snap! nm... user error :P [20:07] <[psyk]> #kde is dead [20:08] kde2012 [20:08] <[psyk]> nobody has said a word in like 30 minutes lol [20:08] <[psyk]> besides me, of course [20:10] hersonls_ (n=hersonls@187.40.32.60) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] [psyk]: I don't really see the problem 1) build QtCurve 2) Install it 3) systemsettings -> Appearance -> Style -> and set QtCurve (Or Appearance -> Windows -> Window Decoration) and set Qtcurve [20:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] http://www.twitpic.com/x3r0s safe for work [20:12] mes (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] jeev: HAHA .. nice. [20:13] heheh [20:13] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:15] FML [20:16] i hate initrds, im getting "/init: line 222: /sbin/dmraid: not found" [20:16] why [20:16] then "ERROR: no /sbin/init found on root dev (or not mounted). Trouble ahead. You can try to fix it. Type exit when things are done' [20:16] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:17] heh [20:17] then "which dmraid" shows "/sbin/dmraid", same for init [20:17] what's dmraid, never seen it [20:17] <[psyk]> BP{k}, i did that. but then how do I install qtcurve themes? [20:17] "/sbin/dmraid" gives "/bin/sh: /sbin/dmraid: not found" [20:17] i dont have it [20:17] fo fakeraid setups [20:17] why dont you use mdadm [20:17] [psyk]: you did "what"? [20:17] because i need it to nicely coexist with windows [20:18] fwc: when are you trying to call dmraid? [20:18] hm [20:18] <[psyk]> BP{k}, I set my widgets to qtcurve [20:18] BP: well now im trying it at the shell it kicked me to to try to let me fix things [20:18] BP: other than that its in the "init" script iirc [20:19] fwc, did it grab the riht modules [20:19] [psyk]: wait so you installed it? and you can see it showing up in systemsettings? [20:19] jeev, no modules required.. its just refusing to run dmraid [20:19] <[psyk]> BP{k}, yes [20:19] <[psyk]> BP{k}, but then I don't know how to install a qtcurve theme... You know, themename.colors/themename.qtcurve etc [20:19] so why do you have an initrd [20:20] fwc: /sbin/dmraid on the filesystem .. is different from the initrd (which would mean you have it inside /boot/initrd-tree and make the initrd.gz [20:20] .. so i can mount my raid [20:20] <[psyk]> BP{k}, well, .colors is easy, but I don't know what to do with the .qtcurve settings file [20:20] [psyk]: Sorry, I don't know. I don't use KDE. [20:20] BP: i copied it to /boot/initrd-tree and ran mkinitrd again [20:20] BP: its showing /sbin/dmraid as existing right now. with the initrd mounted. it just wont run it. [20:20] what did you type to build your initrd [20:21] <[psyk]> BP{k}, yeah, I'm wishing I wasn't so adventurous and just got gware [20:21] jeev: mkinitrd (edit stuff and add libs/dmraid) mkinitrd :P [20:21] i'm not sure what dmraid is but you could -R in there too [20:21] [psyk]: but since the package build and installed properly by the looks of it; that's about as far as my give-a-damn goes. :) [20:21] jeev: thats for mdadm [20:21] for my mdadm, i did mkinitrd -c -m ext4 -r /dev/lvm1/root -R -L [20:21] yea [20:21] <[psyk]> BP{k}, :/ [20:21] i'm not sure, i should read up on dmraid [20:22] jeev: mkinitrd -r /dev/mapper/pdc_dbbgp2 -f ext2 -k `uname -r`, then i added stuff, then mkinitrd again, with no options [20:23] Thanks for the help guys. What it was is that the synclient command has to be ran after starting X. So after placing it into my login manager's start script instead of /etc/rc.d/rc.local it works. [20:23] slackd0Od (n=slackd00@c-24-19-217-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [20:24] fwc, you could find the initrd-tree.tar.gz in /usr/share/mkinitrd if i recall [20:25] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] maybe you could modify it and rebuild mkinitrd [20:25] modify init if you want it to do anything special [20:25] doesn't dmraid have a module ? [20:25] Razec (i=1000@187-27-195-243.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:25] jeev.... if you mkinitrd then change /boot/initrd-tree then run mkinitrd again it rebuilds the image with your changes [20:25] jeev, and no dmraid does not have a module [20:26] i see [20:26] ah fwc, then i seriously took a long and wrong road once hahah [20:26] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:26] so does dmraid pick up your windows raid ? [20:26] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:26] jeev, its not a windows raid, its a fakeraid.. like super cheap "raid controllers" or motherboard raids [20:27] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] i see [20:27] jeev, and yes.. it does, though it took a little patching for it to find the one that is defined via the motherboard's bios [20:27] heh good luck [20:27] i was having a massive problem trying lvm/raid1 with grub2 and xen [20:27] but i had forgtotten to put initrd in lilo first lol [20:28] well its just refusing to run it for some reason [20:28] maybe ill just compile dmraid without dynamic libs [20:28] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:29] thatsprobably the issue [20:30] fwc: last time I poked dmraid it was a bit of a bugger to make it play nice. [20:30] even though the libs are there in initrd [20:31] see mdadm + busybox are both statically compiled and theyrun fine [20:31] i think thats my issue [20:31] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:31] maybe because theres no ldconfig? [20:31] etc [20:31] no library management [20:33] fwc: but admittedly when I played with dmraid, the fakeraid was just use as a data drive, so that makes it a bit easier. [20:33] BP: yeah it works fine reading it from the install i have on my pata drive, just have to get my initrd set..... and it was a BITCH to get it installed to the raid :P [20:34] BP{k}, apparently slack's installer doesn't want to install /dev/mapper devices.. it gets a list of valid install partitions from fdisk -l which doesnt see them, so i had to figure out where it saved the parsed fdisk data and manually edit it :\ [20:34] BP{k}, unless theres an easier way...... which i wasnt able to figure out [20:35] manually editing files is the easy way in slack [20:35] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:35] Skywise, kinda dumb for the installer :p [20:35] its not like everyone has the same setup or anything [20:37] Skywise.... then it could just ask you for an install target, ie "install to device: " [20:37] using fdisk -l is retarded [20:37] what else can you dependably use [20:37] i love Slack, but that's a case of Slack being way behind the times just because it didnt exist when the installer has been the same for the past 15 years [20:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:38] slack was one of the first distros [20:38] Skywise, uh text input field instead of looking through Slack's installer script figuring out WHY it wont install to a /dev/mapper device, figuring out HOW it gets a list of valid partitions, and then editing a file [20:38] Skywise, no crap, Ive been using it since Slack3, that doesnt mean its perfect [20:38] WO [20:38] yeah, theres also command line options [20:38] WHERE [20:39] Skywise, really, well how about you tell me the option for specifying an install target (hint: it doesnt exist) [20:39] the installer sure does install to a /dev/mapper device [20:39] In fact my system is installed to a /dev/mapper device [20:39] antiwire, how :P [20:40] Have you even read the READMEs? [20:40] the crypt readme has examples. [20:40] so does the LVM [20:40] antiwire, of course you can GET it to install to a /dev/mapper device, i did it without docs, that doesnt make the installer good though :P [20:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:40] so you're whining about a non-issue really. [20:41] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:41] antiwire, im not whining, dont be an idiot [20:41] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [20:41] What you are whining about is documented very concisely. If you have some suggestion for the installer and a patch to make it do what you want I'm sure Pat or alienBOB or Alan_Hicks would read it [20:41] For the record, I'm not an idiot. [20:42] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:43] I would first start asking alienBOB before bothering Pat. [20:43] Also, After you setup the mapper devices the installer does detect them. [20:43] antiwire, clearly you are :P youre commenting on something without seeing the rest of the convo, i said its more convoluted than it should be (and it is) disagreeing with a fanboy who has never done it does not constitute whining. [20:44] antiwire, im aware.... i just patched dmraid to work better with weird motherboard fakeraids that use nonstandard meta data offsets, and i looked through all the installer scripts [20:45] it doesnt detect them because it (stupidly) uses fdisk -l and doesnt allow user input for a target inside the script.. fdisk -l will obviously not give you /dev/mapper devices [20:45] <[psyk]> BP{k}, can you assist me in installing gnome? I just need a push in the right direction because I don't want to fuck up like I did when I was originally installing slackware. [20:45] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:46] So far you've called me an idiot and the people who created the installer stupid. [20:46] [psyk]: no. [20:46] antiwire, i said it stupidly uses fdisk -l, i didnt call them stupid, but if you want to keep misinterpreting my statements.. my opinion of you will probably stay the same :P [20:46] i'm sure theres a readme about it somewhere [20:47] fwc: Do you think using some emoticon makes insults ok? [20:47] <[psyk]> antiwire, yes, it does you bastard :P [20:48] antiwire, i wasnt aware that telling someone they were an idiot while theyre being one was in fact an insult :) [20:48] <[psyk]> fwc, right on [20:48] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] Action: BP{k} wasn't aware that insulting well known regulars was a really smart idea. [20:49] do you think hopping in on a conversation and insulting someone by telling them theyre whining, then misconstruing their statements is ok or intelligent? i never said the people that wrote the install scripts were stupid, or even implied it, nor was i "whining" about slacks installer. [20:50] BP{k}, oh so I should respect "regulars." right. makes sense. [20:51] fwc: Why don't you just submit your patches then? Instead of coming in here and calling the installer stupid you could submit your work and have it fixed. I think that would be more constructive. [20:51] [psyk] (n=psyk@ool-ad0360d1.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:51] BP{k}, maybe regulars should know better than to troll, there's no reason to hop into a conversation and tell someone theyre whining because theyre stating why the way the installer works is poor and could be improved on :P [20:51] ... [20:51] fwc, you missed the memo. put him on ignore [20:52] jeev acts like he has me on ignore but he doesn't [20:52] antiwire, my branch for dmraid is public, and ill be finishing it and requesting a merge soon.. as far as the installer, ill take a look at it, and if im still annoyed by its behavior when i do i will patch it and submit it for review :P [20:53] fwc: I didn't insult your intelligence. The only thing I said that could have been misconstrued as an insult was the readme suggestion. I really don't think you needed to call me an idiot. [20:53] antiwire, but im not really much of a scripter, so it may be more effort for me to fix than it is worth to me, i got it to work by editing the parsed data, thats what im primarily concerned with; functionality [20:54] antiwire, i took the whining as an insult :P who likes to be told theyre whining, especially when theyre not? ill apologize if you will :) [20:55] antiwire, fine you know what.. sorry. [20:55] is it over yet? [20:55] fwc: My point was that you have a solution already, you solved it. [20:55] fight!!! [20:56] the rest of us could and most likely would benefit from your work too [20:57] i curse you, powertop [20:57] hersonls__ (n=hersonls@187.40.53.42) left irc: Client Quit [20:58] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [20:58] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.53.42) joined ##slackware. [20:59] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.120.133.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:59] Something very upsetting happened today. I opened up my Eclipse and then one of my projects. All the accentuation had been replaced by some weird set of weird characters. Now, how in Christ's sakes did this happen? All projects are messed. [21:00] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-24.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:00] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:00] ravigehlot: Have you recently changed your system's encoding settings? [21:00] Like, switching to UTF or another charset? [21:00] antiwire: Nope. It continues to be en_US.UTF-8 [21:00] echo $LANG proves it [21:00] or locale [21:02] It's upsetting because how the hell am I suppose to re-type all 100+ pages?? [21:02] I can rollback from SVN but I did so much work today that it would delete all work done today [21:02] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [21:03] ravigehlot: Do you have another system to test your project with? [21:03] antiwire: No. I do not. All projects are UTF-8 with locale set to pt_BR.UTF-8. It was all fine till this morning. [21:04] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:06] antiwire: I did an update early today [21:06] antiwire: I don't fucking know. [21:06] antiwire: will just deal with it now [21:06] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:06] ravigehlot: Are you running -current? [21:07] these things are important. did work -> does not work [21:07] your system is en_US.utf8, your project is pt_BR? i dont get that [21:07] cteg: Well, pt_BR or us_EN ...this is only locale for currency, time, language translation [21:08] cteg: what is important is the charset. Somehow...in some distance world...this messed up [21:08] well, I gotta go rollback this crap from SVN [21:08] thanks for all help [21:08] wait. [21:08] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) left irc: "Leaving" [21:08] stop [21:08] ... [21:09] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] should backup the current mess... [21:09] in case it really isn't corrupted [21:09] he is confusing locale settings anyway [21:10] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] digitteknohippie (n=g@88-110-145-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:18] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@c-67-189-121-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [21:20] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] greetings and salutations [21:21] <|Slacker|> hails [21:23] howdy slackers [21:23] <|Slacker|> good and ya [21:23] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Action: digitteknohippie isnt really a slacker yet, long time big fan, but waves a friendly greeting anyway. :) [21:24] agentofkaos (i=ccorg@beeyatch.org) joined ##slackware. [21:24] I'm soooo excited..... [21:25] just upgraded internet speed and added dual band wifi router [21:25] speed? [21:25] and it allows USB storage for a sinple NAS [21:25] *simple [21:25] <|Slacker|> cool [21:26] 20 Mbps residential and 802.11a/b/g/n at 2,4 and 5 GHz [21:26] router? [21:26] <|Slacker|> I'm disappointed here 'cuz my kde's crashing frequently [21:26] youtube@20mbit/s :> [21:26] via Comcast (US) so lets see how often I hit there speed caps! [21:26] what band are you running it in ? [21:27] any likely suspected candidates for cause of the crashing |Slacker|? [21:27] that 20mbs is for only the first 5 secs of your download after that your at around 9 [21:27] my laptop runs 802.11n 5GHz and kids/wife in G at 2.4GHz [21:27] comcast offers 50/10 here :P [21:27] <|Slacker|> digitteknohippie, dunno dude, Opera crashes often, amarok too [21:28] well ... I upgraded from 1.5Mbps DSl [21:28] <|Slacker|> now strigi doesn't stop indexing [21:28] |Slacker|, is your kde 4.3.4? [21:28] anyway the USB HD function is nifty. [21:28] sorry to be such an off-topic sycophant... but my gawd i love slackware... n i've only installed it a few times, never used it as my primary distro. [21:28] Only one draw back - NTFS only [21:29] <|Slacker|> digitteknohippie, I'm using the default one that comes with slack 13 [21:29] <|Slacker|> 4.2 isn't it? [21:30] the current has 4.3.4, try it [21:30] Anyway, if anyone is interested, it a bit windows-centric for teh USB storage, check out netgear WNDR3700 (2 ssids + 2 guest SSIDs!) [21:30] <|Slacker|> is it upgradeable thru slacpkg? [21:30] Action: digitteknohippie bites tongue on kde4.*, still prejudice, 3.5 fanboy. opera, i've not used often, amarok tho, i've had crash a few times through the years, never persistently, n never found the cause. [21:31] you can get the kde/ and upgradepkg [21:31] I feel better now....wife just doesn't understand my gadget obsession [21:31] <|Slacker|> powtrix, true enough, thanks [21:31] <|Slacker|> gonna do that now [21:31] read http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=x86_64 - Thu Dec 17 20:51:37 UTC 2009 [21:32] well if you use i486.. [21:32] I concur, KDE 4.2.x is a bit goofy for me as well, when I get time I may try 4.3.x series [21:32] im using it, works fine [21:32] <|Slacker|> cool [21:33] if you decide to upgrade to -current you should update ALL packages not just KDE. it wont work otherwise. at least if you dont upgrade most [21:33] <|Slacker|> but here it's 32 bits yet [21:33] "fine" yes but goofy...but then again ....if I ever get around to setting up proper menus in Xfce I stick with that...nice is quick [21:33] er...quick is nice [21:34] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] <|Slacker|> sahk0, got a point dude [21:34] you should upgrade to current, it's *plus plus* stable imo [21:34] Action: digitteknohippie looks into using kicker with kde4, since it's mainly displeasure with plasma n widgets that he finds irksome. digitteknohippie misses kicker apps. digitteknohippie doesnt bother looking hard, having been converted to openbox, after crunchbang linux. [21:34] clarjon1 (n=clarjon1@unaffiliated/clarjon1) joined ##slackware. [21:34] |Slacker|: bear in mind that -current is a development branch though...whatever that means [21:35] <|Slacker|> sahk0, I know...I've use it in the past, never had big problems [21:35] thats not guaranteed though [21:36] It means that we do our development there. That means you have even less expectation of "routine" user support. [21:36] anyway i just told you so you can blame powtrix if it breaks and not Slackware [21:36] :) [21:36] :P [21:36] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Action: powtrix hides [21:37] <|Slacker|> sahk0, I ain't a new user dude, I won't come back here blaming slack, I just love this system [21:37] <|Slacker|> ;) [21:37] agentofkaos (i=ccorg@beeyatch.org) left irc: "Beam me up Scotty!" [21:37] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:38] ok, the kernels/toolchain upgrade of a couple of days ago can be tricky. otherwise it should be safe [21:38] <|Slacker|> ok [21:38] |Slacker|, do you have full install ? [21:38] <|Slacker|> powtrix, yup [21:39] sahk0: http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover :) [21:40] rworkman: yeah i notice @ LQ. i even thanked you for it, although i had no problems:) [21:40] read the changelog, then ’ upgradepkg --install-new slackware/*/*.t?z && lilo [21:40] Oh, I haven't looked back since my followup post :/ [21:41] <|Slacker|> ok [21:42] my /dev/dvd -> hda now its sr0 [21:42] it seems the millenium bug appeared in 2010. had anyone predicted that? [21:43] i heard there were severe problems in Deutchland [21:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [21:43] Raa (n=oli@86.127.238.96) joined ##slackware. [21:44] yeah with creditcards. they (some french software company) made a mistake with the new chips on the card [21:44] did it happen only in DE ? [21:44] the chip is to substitute the old magnet thing [21:44] slackwarebob: re suspend.sourceforge.net and slackbuild and suspend for your laptop - there is a slackbuild script for 12.2 that could probably be updated for 13 [21:44] sahk0: i dont know [21:45] anyway happened to millions of cards... [21:45] sahk0, another case for cash.... [21:45] like the flu vaccince? [21:45] spamassassin had issues too [21:46] kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:46] i don't know exactly the story behind it [21:46] i just ran the update [21:47] spamassassin just had a rule that marked mail with a 2010 as from being in the future [21:47] minor issue and not a high scoring rule [21:48] sa-update fixes it or assigning the rule a score of 0 [21:48] i never followed through on sa-update [21:49] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.162.202) joined ##slackware. [21:49] only takes a moment [21:49] Action: digitteknohippie cries [21:49] ran out without debug and didn't see it but ran on another server, cool [21:49] updates config ? [21:50] updates the rules [21:50] sexy [21:50] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:54] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [21:55] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:56] freud_1956 (n=fred@187.40.162.202) left irc: "Leaving" [21:57] i would like to understand something about speed rate of (rsync,scp) .... actually my speed rate average is always about 1,5MB/s, and if i understand correctly, speed rate cannot exceed 3MB/s for wireless card ..... then why don't i reach 3MB/s ? [21:57] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] paissad, partly do to nework overhead [21:58] *network [21:58] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] packets take up space and bandwidth [21:59] kingbeowulf, i thought that local network has nothing to do wan ! [21:59] connection strength as well [21:59] with wan [22:01] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.53.214) joined ##slackware. [22:01] kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [22:01] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.12.184) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] i thought that the lan had nothing to do with the wan ... because when i use rsync or scp .... my bandwith for internet is strongly reduced ... almost over ... that means that rsync/scp uses my bandwith [22:05] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:06] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-111-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [22:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:07] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242377431.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:09] paissad, any network communication has to use some sort of protocol. That protocol (packet structure/format, handshaking, error correctio, etc.) uses some bandwith [22:10] think of LAN as a "mini-WAN" [22:10] ok [22:10] and as tank-man said, signal strength is key, as is interference on the same band [22:10] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:11] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-141.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] In my area 2.4GHz wifi is thick, so I don't get optimum rates [22:13] also, iirc, rsync and scp are not network protocols, but rather software tools to communicate a certain way with a server. Typically they will use TCP/IP [22:14] SigmaVirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-125-86-91.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] i got i now [22:16] got it* [22:16] glad to impart what little I can remember...... [22:16] thanks :) [22:17] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-75-60-183-126.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] epoch (n=epoch@adsl-99-155-152-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] I have a bluetooth to RS-232 adapter on desktop and I am trying to use it to connect to one of my Linux boxes (with has a bluetooth adapter)... What is the TTY designation that I should use in inittab to get the linux box to listen to the bluetooth adapter? [22:20] arfon: turn it on and run dmesg [22:20] kingbeowulf, did you use the text editor to config inet1.conf (wlan0) or a program? [22:21] I paired it with Bluez tools [22:21] i would like to test mine to work as AP for my PSP [22:21] never tried it [22:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] powtrix, i use wicd its a great tool for wifi and wired control. basically leave rc.inet1.conf empty [22:23] dmesg just shows the bluetooth stuff coming up, it doesn't mention a dev node [22:24] in the "old days" I used to configure manually and stiil do for boxes that I have as static IP fileseervers [22:26] well. got to go. [22:26] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@c-67-189-121-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Too weak to go on...."). [22:30] TriniTuX (n=chatzill@cuscon125663.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:31] clarjon1 (n=clarjon1@unaffiliated/clarjon1) left ##slackware ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC."). [22:38] fridim_ (n=fridim@home.fridim.org) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] samuel (n=samuel@bhe200150026221.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:44] somebody know who can I disable mouse? [22:44] unplug it [22:44] Action: epoch nods [22:44] thrice`: I know it, but if somebody plug it, can't use it [22:46] blacklist driver for mice [22:46] maybe that.. [22:46] deximat: I will try it [22:46] /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [22:47] /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [22:47] if you know what driver is mice using [22:47] lsmod [22:47] deximat: or psmouse [22:47] says all kernel modules running [22:47] so there could be mouse driver [22:47] too [22:48] deximat: I'm restarting my test machine [22:48] tuvok302Lappy (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-16.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] samuel: kk [22:48] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:50] samuel? [22:50] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-141.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:51] deximat: my mouse is USb [22:51] it worked in virtual machine, but it real machine not [22:52] yeah [22:52] i am looking for usb mouse driver now... [22:53] deximat: ok [22:53] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-17-137.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:54] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:56] deximat: I found, usbhid [22:57] I dont have that :) [22:57] digitteknohippie (n=g@88-110-145-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware. [22:57] nix_chix3r (n=hellokit@97-127-223-109.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] I have xfce as the default WM on SL13. For one of the account, after I login I cannot see the panel bar (at the bottom with the workspaces). How do I get it back? [22:58] deximat: sorry, I make a mistake [22:58] klean did you remove it? goto settings -> panel [22:59] weird, got the initrd working fine... now i have a bit of an issue where im only getting 170MB/S off the raid measured with hdparm [22:59] I did not remove it. [22:59] did 390mb/s with hdparm off the array when booting off my other drive [22:59] by default every user gets it on the first login, so it was there at one point right? [23:00] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-141.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:00] kleanchap: right click on desktop > Applications > Settings > Panel [23:00] mancha, which settings->panel? [23:01] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] klean, is panel running? [23:01] SigmaVirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-125-86-91.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:01] no [23:01] techwonder_ (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] pgrep xfce4-panel [23:01] tell me the output of that [23:01] samuel: did you made it? [23:01] danklesm1n (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:02] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] ? [23:02] deximat: usbhdi is input driver usb. I unloaded this module, but my mouse didn't stop [23:02] eh whatever dd grabs at 380mb/s [23:02] deximat: I will fighting [23:02] mancha, there is nothing in the pgrep output. [23:02] hehehe :) [23:03] ok, so then type: xfce4-panel & [23:03] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] 4GB in 11.4seconds, <3 SSDs [23:03] mancha, the panel now did appear. [23:04] Why did I loose it in the first place? How do I keep it permanent now? [23:04] good. now one thing you might want to do is when you logout make sure the "save session" is checked [23:04] samuel: look at dmesg, some interesting data in there [23:04] brb. [23:04] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [23:05] deximat: good, I will look [23:06] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:06] mancha, it worked. Thnx! [23:06] welcome klean. enjoy [23:07] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [23:08] Why did it disappear in the first place? I have used it for the last 3 days (since the install) without any issue. Did login/logout/reboot with saved sessions.... [23:08] it must have died somehow is my guess either by your error or otherwise and the session was saved without it [23:09] (just a guess) [23:09] samuel (n=samuel@bhe200150026221.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [23:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [23:09] samuel (n=samuel@bhe200150026221.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Hmmm....atleast I know how to start it back. [23:09] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-141.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:10] yeah write it down somewhere for next time [23:10] samuel: I think i got solution [23:10] just a min to test it [23:11] brb [23:11] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:11] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:14] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "more snow would be nice. say 2 feet or more" [23:14] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-17-137.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:14] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-75-60-183-126.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:17] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [23:17] deximat: have you good news? [23:17] sorry my english [23:17] do you have good news? [23:17] samuel: no, I will try to reboot, but I think this doesnt work... :( no problem mine is not better ;) [23:17] have you good news is perfectly acceptable english [23:18] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] mancha: thanks. I didn't know [23:18] no problemo, your english is quite good. even for a brazilian :) [23:18] hmm\ [23:18] nobody to fight with [23:19] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:19] ugh just had to troubleshoot a dd-wrt router [23:19] why kitche [23:19] what was wrong he h [23:19] mancha: thanks. heheheh [23:19] kitche did you enjoy back when you could root it throgh remote admin? :) [23:21] customer had a router and she did not know anything had to tell her to go get a default one and i never really looked at dd-wrt before lol [23:21] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [23:22] samuel: sry :( I am stupid [23:22] SkyTV (n=noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:22] i tried to turn it off in xorg.conf but it doesnt react on it [23:22] deximat: no problem, I'm trying yet [23:27] x1user (n=x1user@95.87.248.136) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:30] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:31] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] anyone have any idea what i could do with 500mbit off peak hours ? [23:31] and no, it's not a lame fdc network [23:37] egregor_ (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [23:40] mwnn (n=user@59.92.152.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:41] egregor_ (n=egregor_@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [23:45] samuel: did you made it? [23:48] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [23:48] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Connection timed out [23:49] samuel: I got solution if you are still here... [23:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:50] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [23:51] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:51] deximat: hello [23:52] I'm here [23:52] samuel: xinput set-int-prop "Mouse0" "Device Enabled" 8 1 [23:52] ups [23:52] samuel: xinput set-int-prop "Mouse0" "Device Enabled" 8 0 [23:52] first is to enable [23:52] second is to disable [23:54] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] deximat: it didn't work for me, but can be because I'm using usb mouse. I'll change mouse0 for other reference [23:54] yeah, look at xorg.conf [23:54] did anyone find out why 13.0 freezes on X display? [23:54] inputdevice [23:54] mouce [23:55] find name of your mouse [23:55] deximat: huh are you talking to me? [23:55] no, sry samuel [23:57] deximat: with xinput list, Can I list device? [23:57] yes [23:58] deximat: like we say in brazil, [23:58] BINGO [23:59] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Fri Jan 8 2010