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[00:11] Action: powtrix draws under hp50g [00:11] Your ti-89 runs slackware? Leet. [00:11] sweet Leet...;D [00:12] slackware = knows all [00:12] *manual = knows all [00:14] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.90.32) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [00:14] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [00:15] reisio (reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Why iiiiissss his head so big!"). [00:16] Helpmeee: jpgs,pcxs, or icons? [00:20] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:21] reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [00:21] reisio (reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Why iiiiissss his head so big!"). [00:23] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [00:23] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:201:c0ff:fe04:c41f) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:23] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:29] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:201:c0ff:fe04:c41f) joined ##slackware. [00:32] I have samba set up already [00:32] is it worth getting NFS set up? [00:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:32] I have samba setup for the windows computers [00:32] should I run BOTH NFS and Samba? [00:33] NFS for linux->Linux [00:33] Samba for linux->windows [00:33] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:33] or just use Samba for both? [00:33] nfs isn't very secure, iirc [00:33] samba for both [00:33] redtricycle: good to have as backup...never know when you might need it..;) [00:33] Hum...okies, so speed improvement not much of an issue then [00:34] but,do agree with shonudo on security [00:38] Helpmeee (~sdf@ip24-136-38-77.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: [00:42] grazymax (~grazymax@host86-14-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:47] rirombo (~rirombo@h11.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-187-50-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:54] rirombo (~rirombo@h11.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:55] grazymax (~grazymax@87.13.165.41) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Odd. In my fstab, I mounted cifs with file_mode=0777 and dir_mode=0777 [00:56] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-235-44-37.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:56] actual permissions on mounted files are 600 for directories and 600 for files [00:56] What's the correct way to set it? [00:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Here's my fstab line: [00:57] //zeus/Movies /srv/zeus/movies cifs auto,gid=users,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,iocharset=iso8859-15,credentials=/etc/samba/private/zeuspasswd 0 0 [01:00] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:03] gh0 (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] blaines (~blaines@ip68-228-243-100.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [01:04] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] replay (~replay@69.26.207.101) joined ##slackware. [01:06] replay (~replay@69.26.207.101) left irc: Changing host [01:06] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [01:07] redtricycle, I think you might wanna focus on the share configuration. [01:07] mask options, etc. [01:09] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware. [01:10] wharncliffe (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:11] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [01:12] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:13] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [01:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[01:29] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:31] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-91-34-29.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] hi everybody [01:31] hi [01:31] hi gniks [01:31] how's it going? [01:31] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:32] im ok [01:32] u? [01:32] I'm good [01:32] was kind of battling getting my modem to work in non root today, got it figured out [01:32] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [01:32] so I can run minicom and use as a caller ID [01:33] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:34] soooooooo, lots of ppl logged in, seems kind of quiet [01:34] your on dialup? [01:34] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:34] no, I have DSL [01:34] but I use my modem to send faxes with and as a caller ID [01:34] using slackware 12.2 [01:34] ah ya [01:35] I was tired of having to be root just to get /dev/ttyS2 to work [01:35] not gonna upgrade? [01:35] yeah, just change perms on it :) [01:35] I got sw 13.0 on another machine [01:35] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] well, I did it by adding my username in the /etc/groups file next to uucp [01:36] I haven't quite got this chmod thing down completely yet, sad to say [01:36] that works too :) [01:37] how would you chmod /dev/ttyS2 so all users can use the modem ? [01:37] you could do a few things [01:37] depending on the level of security you want [01:37] if you want everyone to be able to use it [01:37] chmod +rw the file [01:37] I'm the only one that uses the computer [01:37] well.......I tried that, it didn't work [01:38] yeah, but its the lurking rootkits you could get ya gotta watch out for :p [01:38] I tried chmod +rw /dev/ttyS2 [01:38] that should have worked, cause all yo do when you access the tty is read and write from the pipe [01:38] rootkits? [01:39] rootkits are the linux version of viruses aimed at rooting (gaining root access to) your system [01:39] there are windows rootkits too [01:40] yes this is true& they are better know as viruses however [01:41] so by giving global access to a tty port I make my machine vulnerable even though I use DSL connection through eth0 ? [01:41] yes and no [01:41] a machine could dial your computer, and take advantage of any security holes in your fax software [01:42] however the likely hood of this is very slim [01:42] yeah.........maybe they could teach me how to make the fax software WORK ----- LOL [01:42] and anything you could get through DSL virus wise, could use the modem to make calls/faxes/connect to other systems [01:42] even if they don't manage to obtain root [01:43] I got efax CLI program to work and I can send txt files as faxes, no gui fax stuff working, such as hylafax [01:44] i have a fax/modem on my laptop...but i don't have a phoneline or even know if i can get it operating with linux [01:44] ive never actually used linux fax software :P [01:44] well........as I mentinoed, I did not chmod ttyS2 but rather just added my username in the /etc/groups file [01:44] i don't have a phone line either, hehe [01:44] telemarketer: adding your username to the group is a more standard way of doing it [01:45] Nick change: Chinforinfula -> ViniciusPXMB [01:45] that's what I did.......added my username to the uucp group [01:45] ls -l /dev/ttyS2 shows the owners as root and uucp [01:46] sooooooo.......I'd want my username to join the 'uucp' group, right ? [01:46] yup [01:46] and, afaict you do that in the /etc/groups file [01:47] correct [01:47] or you can use the usermod command to do it [01:47] right........I was RTFM'ing most of the afternoon [01:48] usermod -a user [01:48] :) [01:48] its great for scripting [01:48] I think I would have done it by: usermod -G uucp username [01:48] but i just mod files by hand [01:48] shoudln't use that in this case [01:49] because it will remove the user from all other supplementary groups they are a member of [01:49] unless that is what you were going for of course :) [01:49] but i imagine not [01:49] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:49] yeah........I felt pretty safe working with the /etc/groups file, as I could tell how the different users were set up from when I first set them up [01:50] you used vigr right? [01:50] they were all in floppy / cdrom / audio / video groups, so it was pretty easy to understand [01:50] vigr? [01:50] vi editor ? [01:50] its a vi enditor for the /etc/group file [01:50] it checks the syntax of the file on exit, and makes sure the perms on teh file are correct, and such [01:50] oh........no I mostly use jstar these days [01:51] there is also vipw for the passwd file [01:51] I'll have to check that out [01:51] its good practice to use vigr vipw, it also makes a backup automatically [01:51] and for /ets/sudoers visudo :) [01:51] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:51] I tried to do this also on my sw 7 machine and it didn't work, but I didn't have a lot of time to spend on it [01:52] thats rather old :P [01:52] i only started with sw 9 haha [01:52] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-2-203.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:52] yep........I got sw 7 running on a pentium 120 and it works well :) [01:52] nice [01:52] except for netscape.......but that's why I got opera on it [01:53] dammit. [01:53] yeah, when my DSL is down, I jump over to the p120 and run sw7 dialup in emergencies [01:53] kind of astonishing that KDE works on it [01:53] i keep going into my kitchen to grab a beer or pepsi, but i keep ending up eating something, then leaving and forgetting to bring the beer/pepsi back [01:54] lulz [01:54] yeah KDE is a pretty heavy program [01:54] but if its KDE from the same era as the computer, should be awesome :p [01:54] I'm not sure what ver KDE is on sw7, it's pretty old [01:54] yes, it's got a LOT of stuff :) [01:55] I cut my teeth on 'dragonlniux' which is based on slackware and it reminds me of that sort of [01:56] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [01:56] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:57] I got DOS 6.22 on that machine as well, and do DOS internet stuff :) [01:57] my first one was mandrake for a week, then i moved to redhat for a day or two, then slack [01:57] now im back on RHEL :p [01:57] on slack for three days too? :) morning [01:57] no, ive been on slack for over 10 years [01:58] morning slava [01:59] well......I got started with small distros on my pentium 90 ...such as pygmy linux, dragon linux, and some other small slack based distros [01:59] tehn a friend gave me the sw 7 6 disk set with manual and I got started with that [01:59] awesome [01:59] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [01:59] bacal (~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-187-60.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:00] then I put sw 10 on my main machine........dual boot to DOS/win98 and when w98 tcp/ip stack bit the dust in 2006 I was kind of forced to use sw10 and never looked back :) [02:00] good times [02:01] I still have my c:\ drive and use DOSBOX to play my old dos games [02:01] does win98 no longer work with tcp/ip? [02:01] or, I can boot to win98 GUI=0 just the prompt..... [02:01] no, never fixed tcp/ip........no loss :) [02:01] hah, ok [02:01] lulz [02:01] probably a good thing as that put a stop to all the virus !!!! :) [02:01] your install may not work, but win98 still works [02:01] i wouldn't recommend using it however [02:02] I can start the win98 gui.....but there's really nothing there of interest anymore [02:02] still got lots of DOS goodies though :) [02:02] notepad.exe is still of interest :) [02:02] hahahahaha [02:03] wine notepad [02:03] although, wine has one already :) [02:03] yeah.......I got wine too [02:03] even got firefox running on wine........what a trip [02:03] vi kicks notepad's rear [02:03] but I just use wine for occaisonal amusement [02:03] jhw_ (~jhw@p5798289D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:04] I've gotten real fond of jstar [02:04] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [02:04] a flavor of the 'joe' editor [02:04] jhw (~jhw@p5798289D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] vi doesn't compare with notepad. they are different worlds. [02:05] Action: slava_dp used joe when first started with slack, moved on to vim since. [02:05] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] well......when in KDE gui.....there are lots of apps that kick notepads a**......kwrite, mousepad, to name a few [02:05] ummm.......kate / kedit ........etc etc [02:06] vi :p [02:06] but for GUI work processing, I prefer Kword [02:06] there's gvim too, although I don't like it. [02:06] anc (~anc@216.59.33.89) joined ##slackware. [02:06] console vim is so much nicer for me. [02:06] bacal (~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-187-60.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100504124052] [02:06] and I have Openoffice.org so I can do all my xls spreadsheets for work......no M$ involved [02:06] Nick change: BadAtom -> cazzo [02:07] yea......I like console apps :) [02:07] I really should spend more time with vi / vim [02:08] hey all, i build kernel and modules on one machine then copy them to another machine. kernel boots fine on both machienes, but i cant build extra modules on the second machine. i extract linux-2.6.34.1.tar.bz2 in /usr/src on second machine and do make prepare, but get modpost not found when building vbox module [02:08] jstar is actually pretty good for scripts......lines commented with a # are a different color, easy on the eyes [02:09] brb [02:10] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Excess Flood [02:10] telemarketer, here's a very nice cheat sheet for vim, I used it when I started: http://tinyurl.com/zp2hm [02:11] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:11] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [02:11] anc, did you copy .config too? if yes, just do 'make modules && make modules_install'. [02:12] slava_dp: i did copy config from build machine. i dont want to make all the modules, just the vbox ones [02:12] oh, I got confused. you mean _extra_ modules. [02:13] ls -ld /lib/modules/2.6.32.13-slava/build [02:13] anc: why don't you just build the kernel on the target machine? [02:13] does it point to the right dir in /usr/src? [02:13] rworkman, might be a very slow machine, I have one like that. [02:13] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2010-07-06 17:06 /lib/modules/2.6.34.1/build -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.34.1/ [02:13] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:13] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [02:14] If it's a slow machine, then why run vbox? [02:14] ohh, true. didn't spot that. [02:14] i just want to do it that way [02:14] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] anc: Hrm... So the kernel boots fine on the target box? [02:15] (even though I think this is insane, fwiw) [02:15] lulz [02:15] lol [02:16] yes im running theat kernel now [02:16] Okay, that's a good sign. [02:17] So did you copy the kernel source dir from the build box to the target box? [02:17] jonatan (~jonatan@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-91-34-29.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:18] no i extracted it with tar -xjvf linux-2.6.34.1.tar.bz2 [02:18] in /usr/src [02:18] anc have you tried using the .run automated file? [02:18] aha, so you have unconfigured sources; of course nothing is going to build against them [02:19] Copy the .config from your build box (so the configs will match), run 'make prepare' and try again [02:19] gniks> yes it fials same way [02:20] rworkman> already did that . says modpost not found [02:20] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [02:20] have you tried to the install on a slack kernel? works fine for me and ive never build my kernel [02:20] /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory [02:20] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:21] gniks, I always build a custom kernel when I can. [02:21] Hrm, just a sec [02:21] slava_dp: you can't always do that though, some code won't work with newer kernels [02:21] run make modules_prepare [02:21] gniks, never had that [02:21] make: *** No rule to make target `modules_prepare'. Stop. [02:21] specifically vmware modules have a fit [02:21] eh? [02:21] No, in the kernel source dir [02:22] and ive seen others too in the past [02:22] gniks, I don't use vmware, I use vbox. [02:22] clearly :) [02:22] proprietary stuff sucks :) [02:22] i run an enterprise cluster [02:22] it is actually better and more secure than vbo [02:22] it typed a lot of stuff [02:22] vbox* [02:22] hmmm ..... ok :) [02:22] at least the vmware lead developer didn't kill himself cause his code is insecure ;) [02:22] anc: okay, now go back to the vbox module dir and try again [02:23] yeah, vbox is only good for non-critical stuff on workstations. the code quality is that. [02:23] it worked!!! [02:23] gniks, who did kill himself? [02:23] Yay :) [02:24] a year ago, the lead devel of virtualbox [02:24] anc: you learned something new today :) [02:24] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-164.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:24] yes thnks you [02:25] er.... [02:25] google doesnt come up with anything when i search for virtualbox suicide [02:26] where'd you hear about that? [02:26] gniks, can you give me any links, I can't find anything on the topic. [02:26] looking& its rather old [02:27] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:28] ah, it was actually a programmer at VAServ who uses VirtualBox [02:28] over 100K servers hacked [02:30] A 0-day vulnerability in HyperVM, a virtualization application produced by Lxlabs, led to a major hack on the servers of VAServ, [02:31] it was not even vbox [02:31] new laptop: dell studio pp39l [02:31] now to see how slack works with it [02:32] alisonken1noc: sweet!....good luck [02:33] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:34] gh0 (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:34] The perpetrators then proceeded to delete data from tens of UK and US servers. [02:35] gniks, dont' spread FUD :) not 100K servers, and not virtualbox. [02:35] although the owner killed himself, that one is true. [02:36] worldwarcheese (~worldwarc@pool-71-184-164-163.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:38] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:39] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] jonatan (~jonatan@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:46] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:46] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.252.68) joined ##slackware. [02:49] fuck [02:49] anyone got a decent web station to listen to late night? [02:49] sbsdoze: what kind of music? [02:50] hmm, rekonq is not on sbo. [02:50] sbsdoze: http://www.subgenius.com/ts/hos.html [02:50] last.fm and pandora both offer streaming and customizations [02:50] sbsdoze, somafm.com [02:50] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:50] check out the groovesalad stream [02:51] I've been listening to lush on soma fm for a few weeks now [02:51] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] they have good playlists [02:51] Skywise: respect, thanks. [02:52] yw [02:52] raela: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lush_%28band%29 ? [02:52] MLanden: doubt it. it's an online streaming station [02:54] sbs (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [02:55] raela: ok [02:56] Action: MLanden looks at their playlist cool...Zero 7...Sia [02:57] so what is the subgenius foundation about? just having fun? [02:57] MLanden, you should also like fragile state [02:57] slava_dp, its about taking over the world for people who can't be bothered to actually do it [02:58] damn the radio stream from their site lags a lot [02:58] Skywise: thanks ... listenin' on youtube now [02:59] I listen to soma.fm via dive's soma client :P it calls mplayer I believe [02:59] slava_dp, they have like 15 streams, try picking another [02:59] i use winamp [03:00] yeah, my winamp stream is great. [03:04] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:05] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.174.103) joined ##slackware. [03:08] x11amp [03:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-164.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:09] deadbeef! [03:09] Dogmeat (he's a dog). 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[03:30] \o/ [03:30] took them months but they finally fixed the iwl3945 driver! \o/ [03:30] "Bug 1834 - Adapter loose network unexpectedly and fails to restart until system reboot" [03:31] it's only in latest kernels but at least, now, I don't have to reboot to keep wifi working >< [03:31] adrien, really? worked for me on 13.1 + 2.6.33.5 fine. [03:32] sbs (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [03:32] slava_dp: for me it's been horrible since 2.6.30 or so [03:32] Now if htey'd just fix the firmware bug that makes iwlwifi 5000 series unusuable with 80211N and WPA, I'll be happy [03:33] http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1834 was opened on "2008-11-24 05:08:33", maybe in one year... /o\  [03:33] This one's been open about that long too, iirc [03:33] Intel wifi ain't the greatest. [03:34] adrien, ok, I've been using 2.6.27 before and then jumped to 2.6.33.5 a month ago. worked well, but I'll update to 2.6.33.6 nevertheless. [03:34] Well, when it works, it rocks. [03:34] intel wifi is great. [03:34] I got iw2200, and it's fine I suppose. [03:34] But then, sex is great when you get it, but it still sucks if you don't get it often ;-) [03:34] what I hated with my wifi card is that it looked like they did great drivers at first and gave up maintaining it later on [03:35] Just like sex! [03:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430275.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:35] er, women [03:35] er, I'll hush now. [03:35] like, once, trying to connect to a network panic'e the kernel: nothing special: only connecting [03:35] rworkman: hahaha :P [03:36] building new kernel now, I'll test it tonight [03:38] I should try again with 2.6.34.x, but I'm too lazy to build it :/ [03:38] I doubt it will make a difference though since no firmware updates have happened, and the intel guy I talked with said it was a firmware issue [03:39] (that they were having trouble debugging) [03:39] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:39] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:39] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:43] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: . [03:43] adrien, is it mini=pci? [03:44] If so, you could purchase lesser intel models for cheap on ebay to use in the meantime. [03:46] byteframe: well, now it should hopefully be ok [03:46] but I don't think it's mini-pci anyway [03:46] there are like 3 wires plugged to the card [03:47] hmm, maybe pci-e [03:48] rworkman: quickly going through git-log, looking for '5000', there doesn't seem to be anything about your problem but I may have missed it [03:48] back to breakfast! [03:49] enjoy :) [03:53] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [03:54] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [03:54] rworkman, thanks for the new preload slackbuild, now it works fine. [03:55] weird building hacks by the way. [03:55] :) [03:56] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:02] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) joined ##slackware. [04:03] =) [04:03] btw, anyone tried firefox 4 alpha/beta? 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[04:20] lol [04:22] "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints ... the sinners are much more fun!" ... made me think of Billy Joel's lyrics [04:22] My new homepage: http://piccolo.cs.hut.fi/doc2/javadoc/CDNet/ByteFrame.html [04:26] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) joined ##slackware. [04:27] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [04:32] how do I disable dhcpd from starting up? [04:32] jareth_, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? [04:32] byteframe: thanks! [04:32] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:35] jareth_, dhcpd does not start up by default. dhcpcd might. [04:37] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.119.116) joined ##slackware. [04:37] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [04:39] slava_dp: which is what I was trying to say ;) [04:39] Flexo?! [04:40] I now disabled /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1... should work fine... brb [04:40] jareth_, use_dhcp variable in that file is what should be disabled. [04:41] if you disabled rc.inet1, it won't really work fine [04:41] sup widda wack playstation, sup? [04:42] been so long since i rebooted, i nearly forgot my LUKS key [04:43] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [04:43] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.91) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) joined ##slackware. [04:45] Zordrak, make a usb luks opener, I have one :) [04:46] nah.. not as secure [04:46] although you will still need the key if you wish to modify your keys in future [04:46] use a real crypto implementation ;) [04:46] hi all. after upgrading my slackware 13.0 to 13.1 on a amd athlon machine it goes in suspend mode even if i've disabled it from BIOS. after it enters in suspend mode i cannot reboot the machine. i have to detach the power chord and wait 2/3 hours...any suggestion? [04:47] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.111) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:47] why do you have to wait 2/3 hours? [04:47] easy way or hard way, OclkdMan ? easy way: recompile kernel, disable suspend foo. [04:48] i've never ever used any suspend foo in my linux life. [04:48] i don't know. if i keep reseting the machine or powering it off and on, at boot time the computer does not boot [04:48] if you can't hard power down your machine you have serious issues [04:49] but don't wait 2/3 hour, just remove the battery next time. as to the suspend stuff, describe what you mean by goes into suspend mode [04:49] (recompile if it's built-in, not a module - else modprobe -r foo & move the module(s) to some other place) [04:49] byteframe: owww my bad.... ;( [04:49] jg71 if what is built in? [04:49] jareth_, did you just chmod -x that file? [04:50] mancha: cookies. the suspend foo ofc. (like i said, i never bothered with it) [04:50] jg71, there is /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, no need to move anything [04:50] what suspend foo? [04:50] slava_dp: im hardcore at times ;) [04:50] mancha: nevermind. [04:50] byteframe: indeed [04:51] try not to jump the gun like that. [04:51] ...it's a software problem. it's not a laptop, also. after restarting the machine if i keep using it, and i poweroff it as usual, the next boot is fine. [04:52] only when it enters in suspend mode after some time that it's idle i have to do this [04:52] i have the huge kernel NOT smp [04:52] Slackware doesn't do that. [04:52] if it is not a laptop and you unplug it and still can't boot for 2/3 hour then return it cause your HW is bad [04:52] Indeed [04:52] linux is powerful, but it can't survive a total blackout [04:52] That's what SHE said.. [04:52] Slackware doesn't do a "suspend after some idle time" unless you configure it to do that. [04:52] OclkdMan: my stock slack64-13.1 install has CONFIG_SUSPEND=y set so if you choose to disable it completely you need to recompile. or find the app that does invoke suspend on your end. [04:52] Sounds like you have a kernel panic happening [04:53] OclkdMan, kde? or xfce? [04:53] yes could be a kernel panic or some other source of lockup which still doens't explain having to wait 40 minutes :) [04:53] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Thermal shutoff explains it perfectly [04:53] i dont think it's a panic cos he said if he just continues to use the sys it aint happening. [04:54] Well, there's that [04:54] right, you could be overheating the cpu and it dies and won't start until the thing cools off [04:54] are you irc'ing from lucifers 7th ring of hell though? [04:54] rworkman: i read the logs and there is no kernel panic. i'm using the console. it's a small server. I think that's it a 'bug' of my bios that with this version of linux kernel causes some problem [04:54] anecdote: bios tend to warn you on next boot though. "press f1 to continue". [04:54] anyway, too obscure for any real hints, my crystal bowl is already showing cracks in this heat .... [04:55] OclkdMan: that's possible too. Too many variables and too weird of a problem :/ [04:55] jg71, it's brutal. [04:55] capacitors coming close to blowing...memory on its last leg...might be occuring [04:55] i'll leave the rest to you wise folks, i call dibs on the "wait 40 minutes with power cord disconnected" part! that's what caught my interest... [04:56] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:56] ok mancha, ill bite: is it an apple machine, OclkdMan ? [04:56] ....the power led is blinking. if i press the powerbutton the machine does not resume [04:57] Might it be botching a hibernate? [04:57] that means the power cord is still connected [04:57] Remove battery? [04:57] not a laptop, we did this :) [04:57] My bad. [04:57] TBH it sounds like what happened with an Asus desktop board i had with windows on it.. it would just not respond to input to resume from standby [04:57] he has a special machine, which keeps running w/o a power source! [04:58] i want one of those [04:58] Power led blinking = kernel panic [04:58] i've checked the temperature last night when it's was cold. also i've disable that control on BIOS. [04:58] (probably) [04:58] ah... [04:58] What about capslock and other keyboard leds [04:58] ? [04:59] mancha: they are nice...;) [04:59] nothing blinks there. i have a kvm video/input switch [04:59] NExt time try sysrq rseisub [04:59] see if that resets it [04:59] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:59] i've tried that combination yesterday....nothing [04:59] bah [04:59] humbug [05:00] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:00] if the machine's in suspend, reisub is ignored [05:00] ...now when i can reboot it i'll try a kernel downgrade [05:00] Has the hardware worked with older kernels? [05:00] anybody have fun with a dell studio 1558 and intel graphics getting eye candy (like the cube) to work? [05:00] yeah, that or 2.6.34.1 [05:00] yes. perfectly. for days.... [05:00] OclkdMan: that's a good sign; definitely start trying to find where it went tits-up, and let the kernel guys know [05:02] ok thx you all. if i find some related logs i'll submit a bug. [05:03] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [05:03] if the latest kernel does not work too and you track what kernel broke it, tell that to bugzilla.kernel.org, they will thack it down. [05:05] ok [05:05] bye [05:05] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:07] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [05:09] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.119.116) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:10] anc (anc@216.59.33.89) left ##slackware. [05:10] so, nobody had fun with dell studio here huh? [05:11] fun with intel gra hardware, yes, but nothing that could possibly help you [05:12] no 3d accelerated stuff? [05:12] i removed any intel gra drivers from my kernels. any more questions? ;) [05:12] well, there it is :) [05:12] jg71, so you are using vesa now? [05:12] the intel on my hp works fine, just this new del studio that's giving me fun [05:12] slava_dp: yes [05:12] oh wow [05:13] 1st time I see one prefer vesa over intel. [05:13] of course, also need to find the ricoh camera and seteo mic setups after that [05:13] intel locks up the machine hard. vesa only option [05:13] setup [05:13] I see. weird. [05:13] annoying as hell. [05:14] alisonken1noc: which gma chip...X3100 or the 4500HD? [05:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:16] the only thing it says is "Subsystem: Dell Device 0413" [05:16] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f97c:ad65:ff1c) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:16] lspci -vv [05:16] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [05:16] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f97c:ad65:ff1c) joined ##slackware. [05:17] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/eLTbh77.html [05:18] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:18] sorry: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/eLTBbh77.html [05:20] any professional gpg users here? [05:22] alisonken1noc, this is the same integrated stuff I have in this box at work. [05:22] although mine identifies as asus device. [05:22] when I enable desktop effects, kde crashes X. [05:22] apparently it's 2.11.0 driver related. [05:22] it won't let me select desktop effects [05:23] apaprently, this is intel 2d graphics only driver [05:23] at least for this chipset [05:23] I can enable them, and even get wobbly windows instantly. but when I open/create a new window, X crashes. [05:23] I'm waiting for 2.12.0 to hit -current. [05:24] can live without effects for now. [05:24] slava_dp: you've seen my new xorg stuff? [05:24] by the way, in the -current cycle from 13.0 to 13.1 (intel driver version 2.10.0), effects worked for me. [05:25] might be the g43/g45 chipset....read 'bout some of the problems on phoronix [05:25] rworkman, no [05:25] http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-1.8/ [05:25] Read NOTES before deciding whether to take the plunge [05:26] mancha: professional is not the word id use, but shoot. [05:26] jg71, nah, i'm afraid you'd tell me to recompile my kernel :) [05:26] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [05:26] oh, shoot. [05:28] anyways, does anyone know if it is possible to gpg verify a sig-file against a public key file, ie without importing the public key into the keyring [05:28] thats not possible [05:29] I think you can use an alternate keyring or gpg.conf [05:29] you could however, create a seperate keyring with the pubkey in question first, and use that for verification. (if that helps) [05:29] yes [05:29] rworkman, nice work, I'm not sure I will use this, cause it's a work box and I need it working. I can live without desktop effects for now. when it hits -current, I might update though. [05:30] rworkman: think it might help with my dell laptop? [05:31] slava_dp: fair enough [05:31] alisonken1noc: I don't know, but if it doesn't work now, it's worth a shot [05:31] It was a seamless migration here (once I got it all figured out) [05:32] be nice to know how the intigration with shader 4.0 and opengl 2.0 comes along [05:32] just a slackbuild and a ton of compiling away, huh? :) [05:33] alisonken1noc: im tempted too. when the heatwave is gone. [05:33] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:33] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:34] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:36] alisonken1noc: there are packages for both i486 and x86_64 in PACKAGES [05:36] (all built on clean virt machines) [05:37] sbsdoze (~spookywo0@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: [05:38] strange to see i486 packages in 2010, tho. for my own build repo, ill drop i486 during the next cycle. i686 & x86_64 only, download stats seem to agree [05:39] jg71, LOL [05:40] i486, i686, where is the difference? [05:40] 200 [05:40] =) [05:40] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-184-193.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:40] what is the % performance increase between arch=486/tun=686 and arch=686? [05:40] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] ubuntu is i686 afaik and it is slower than slack. [05:41] depends on the app but not really worth it I think [05:41] i was wondering if the person who is surprised by the 486 packages had run some hard benchmarking [05:41] the only improvement you could get would be between ix86 and x86_64 [05:43] dvel_ (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [05:43] kslen^^ (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:44] slava_dp: none if the i486 was downloaded. nada nil nix. they either went for 686 or for the real stuff. thats the main reason for me to drop i486, waste of time to build & test. [05:44] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:44] I don't get your point. 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[07:17] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) left irc: Quit: chomping [07:19] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:19] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:21] is there some problem with libdvdcss on x86_64? a dvd that I played ok on i386, now tells me libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1526. [07:22] hi, kbluetooth not work in slack64? send file option in terminal: Remote Device found "00:03:7A:A9:99:B1" Name: QVariant(QString, "ES-YK8V018444"). No error when send file [07:23] the remote device doesn't receive anything [07:25] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:25] rworkman: should upgrade-pkg be enough for your xorg-1.8 packages? (and maybe recompile nouveau in my case) [07:25] ok, dvd playback works in vlc 1.1.0. not in xine, though. [07:25] adrien, there is NOTES [07:26] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:26] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [07:27] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-giwjefgrimfgnloi) joined ##slackware. [07:28] slava_dp: I saw them and I'm most probably going to use upgradepkg but I wasn't sure [07:30] ^DEMOSS^ (~^DEMOSS^@93.190.201.165) joined ##slackware. [07:30] <^DEMOSS^> hi all [07:31] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) joined ##slackware. [07:31] <^DEMOSS^> yerstaday i try install slackware [07:32] <^DEMOSS^> not happy - i do not understand what it want at me 8\ [07:33] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:33] demoss, do you have a slackbook? [07:33] here's a russian translation: http://forum.lafox.net/index.php?showtopic=9082 [07:34] Ochen horosho, tovarishch! [07:34] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:34] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [07:35] <^DEMOSS^> rob0 =) [07:35] troy (~troy@94.237.119.104) joined ##slackware. [07:35] (I can't type Cyrillic here) [07:35] <^DEMOSS^> slava_dp thanks - i read it now ) [07:35] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [07:36] <^DEMOSS^> rob0 were are you learn RU ? [07:36] demoss, it's a little outdated, but it describes the basics. [07:36] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:37] do i have to run slackware 13+ to use the new kernel compression [07:38] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.143) joined ##slackware. [07:38] just a tiny bit of po-russki in high school back before many here were born (Carter was US president.) [07:39] I probably took Russian just to be different. :) [07:39] <^DEMOSS^> it soooo outdate [07:40] <^DEMOSS^> disks i can mount and (metrick ? ) for a user-friendly grafic interface ( as a dos picture) [07:40] <^DEMOSS^> how in debian [07:40] what? :) [07:44] <^DEMOSS^> rob0 good ) [07:44] <^DEMOSS^> slava_dp some difficult - 2.0 and 13.1 x64 [07:45] ok, I fixed my dvd playback. problem was, that my dvd drive wasn't set to any region. so I used regionset to make it region 5, and then played a region 1 dvd with xine without problems. but vlc is the winner here, clearly. [07:45] demoss, I know, the screenshots do not look the same. but try to get an *idea* of what it wants from you :) [07:47] eXgame (~eXgame@88.118.26.21) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:49] <^DEMOSS^> slava_dp i read it - so i think, i can install it now [07:49] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:49] <^DEMOSS^> stay here a little time - i wil be back soon [07:50] <^DEMOSS^> 8) [07:50] <^DEMOSS^> "i'll be back" 8) [07:50] ^DEMOSS^ (~^DEMOSS^@93.190.201.165) left irc: Quit: ^DEMOSS^ [07:51] Action: slackie heu buddies \o [07:54] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [07:58] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [08:01] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [08:01] re: kbluetooth? [08:02] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:04] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:04] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:04] pop poll.. off the top. of your head.. best of the popular netbooks for slack compat? [08:04] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [08:05] $random EEE I'd say [08:06] some (mine) have a ralink wifi chipset that requires some firmware but besides that everything works of the box [08:10] My eee with atheros is fine. No-config X, suspend works, it's probably as functional as the original Xandros. [08:10] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:11] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:11] I prefer to buy a Linux-based netbook, but mostly for ideology and not wanting to send any of my money to Redmond. 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[08:20] mine was 4 [08:21] hm [08:21] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:23] Nick change: tomek_ -> tmkd [08:23] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0340.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:26] if needed, you can probably buy a bigger drive for only a few pounds [08:27] mine came with a 160 GB HD, quite enough space [08:27] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:28] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [08:29] troy (~troy@94.237.119.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:32] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-64-43-62.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:32] hello , has anyone tried slackware for arm in armv5 cpus? 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[08:41] Zordrak wow your proving that you have a really nice compilation of neurons on your brain [08:41] Action: Zordrak returns ENOENT [08:41] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [08:41] Skywise what do you mean to change the shorcut? [08:42] do you mean you want to change the dimesions of your terminal in X or your text console [08:42] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-139-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [08:42] dvel (~dani@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:42] well whenever i open my terminal, its in 30x40 dimension, i want to put the standard size. [08:43] and how do you open your terminal [08:44] asarch (~asarch@187.132.135.80) joined ##slackware. [08:44] by click at the quick launch bar [08:44] and how do you suppose that works [08:45] well icons in my quick launch bar are shorcuts, thus.. [08:45] try editing it [08:46] after you of course look up the options that will give you the dimensions you want [08:46] Zordrak: for demos to customers, you probably want a full-featured laptop. [08:47] for demos you'd really be better off with a dvd player [08:47] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-184-193.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:47] or a slide projector [08:49] A DVD player isn't going to do well for a live interactive demo of software. [08:49] i'm using gotomeeting for doing presentations now [08:49] it will do just as well, or even better since it can show what you're trying to without failing [08:50] i don't think anyone buys into live demos as being what to expect when you buy it [08:50] Action: rob0 shrugs ... not into marketing [08:50] you really just want a smooth presentation [08:51] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [08:51] the worst is when the demo fails for whatever reason, it will be the only thing remembered of the whole thing [08:52] I really just want someone else to do the marketing. :) [08:52] thats an easy trap to fall into [08:52] because dealing with customers sucks [08:52] but, you must never forget that salesmen suck more [08:53] because rather then settting reasonable expectations, the salesmen will promise whatever it takes to get the sale and let someone else worry about it [08:53] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [08:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:54] edthix (ed@175.137.36.18) left ##slackware. [08:55] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:59] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] mrcarrot (lasse@adsl-46.178-Static.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. 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[10:12] so, im going to put freebsd, opensuse, and windoze 7 on another HD, I still want slack running lilo, but how do I get lilo working again after windoze gets on, I wont run/install lilo or grub with bsd or suse, but i know winzdoze always writes over everytime [10:14] boot a slackware CD and fix it [10:14] i think after u intall windows u can use slackCD/DVD to reinstall only lilo [10:15] ya, i figured i would have to boot with a slack cd, but what would i type in at the boot prompt? [10:15] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Howdy [10:16] KaMii, nothing, push enter, then mount your partition to /mnt, mount /dev + /proc in there too, chroot in and fix lilo [10:16] ok, thanks thrice` [10:17] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. [10:18] or just boot the system using the kernel from the cd/dvd [10:19] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:21] vect (brains@ca7-losangeles-1911.dsl.wiredcom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:24] jhw (~jhw@p5798289D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:24] jhw (~jhw@p5798289D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:29] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro_ [10:29] Does anyone here ever deal with 508 Compliance (US Gov accessibility regulations) with respect to OSS/Linux? [10:29] that sounds like serious binnes :) [10:30] Specifically, I need to do a 508 Determination on Slackware for my unit's subscription. [10:30] whats 508 determiknation? [10:31] mancha: it's a US Gov regulation that requires IT purchases to have either accessibility enhancements or valid waivers. [10:32] VERY difficult for boneheads like me to wade through. [10:33] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) left irc: Quit: NightTiger [10:33] I got my agency to purchase a subscription for me (already delivered!) but now our procurement people are hounding me for a 508 determination. I was wondering if anyone in the IT realm here may have already dealt with that. Google was of no help. [10:33] as in for hearing or visually impaired? [10:34] mancha: correct [10:34] can't you ask them for an example? [10:34] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:35] I know there are specific parts of GNU/Linux that cater to the disabled, but I'm looking for the correct language. [10:35] theres some kind of compliance officer or resource you can ask for that [10:35] This may be totally out in left field but, KDE and XFCE has Accessibility Features (like Windoz) [10:36] you should prolly try google as well because i doubt you're the first person who could need to do that [10:36] Space can't you ask these folks who're hounding you for an example of a previously submitted "determination"? [10:36] mancha: this is a unique purchase for them. Many companies have 508 complance documents available to attach to purchase requests. [10:37] Copy one of those but s/redhat/slackware on it :) [10:37] mancha: I have previous deteminations I've done for equipment, but given the nature of my work, most of that fell under an exemption. [10:37] surely they need them for windows purchases right? look at that as an example [10:37] is there a master (a list of all things certified) somewhere? [10:37] shonudo: not that I can find. [10:37] hmmm.... pita [10:37] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:37] windows would fall under the same category as slackware (please hold the flames, you know what i mean...) [10:38] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. [10:38] mancha, indeed [10:38] My first attempt failed becuase I was too general. As far as the first one to come across this problem, I doubt it as well, but I really wonder how many people in 508 regulated agencies are actually "purchasing" linux. [10:38] and i think slack (with kde, i would think) would do everything required [10:38] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:39] Windows is a differnet story b/c they have a 508 compliance document on file. [10:39] look at it! [10:39] and it's item specific? [10:39] shonudo: I agree, but it's verbalizing that which is a problem. [10:39] shonudo: yes. [10:39] is this available to me on the web? [10:39] mancha: It says it's compliant, it does not tell me how to say Slackware is compliant. [10:39] or to mancha, or whomever? [10:40] biker (~biker@187.146.82.36) joined ##slackware. [10:40] hrmm, ok [10:40] but if it's item specific, you just match the item to the similar item on slackware, no? [10:40] monstro (1000@187.10.72.110) joined ##slackware. [10:40] SpacePlod, you need the help of a compliance officer to navigate the doublespeak [10:40] I'm not sure if any GNU/Linux has had a previous 508 compliance test. I'm sure it is, it's just a matter of putting the requirements down. [10:41] How to save flash videos in firefox ? [10:41] Is possible? [10:41] trying to use logic for this problem will only end in defeat [10:41] there was an addon that did that, iirc [10:41] the people in question want certain words in certain places and if you don't do it, you don't get it [10:41] lol@skywise [10:41] Skywise: agreed. Unfortunately, they try and tell me to seek the advice of an IT expert. [10:42] do you have an IT dept? [10:42] Skywise: you are exactly correct. Hence my frustration. [10:42] you need a compliance expert [10:42] yeah i work with the gov't [10:42] there's a ff plugin that does that [10:42] shonudo: yes, I have an IT department. Words cannot capture the uselessness... [10:43] I work in a government IT department, yeah, we're pretty usless... "DON'T TOUCH THAT! YOU'LL BREAK IT" [10:43] but, they would be useful in the sense of handing off the problem... lol [10:43] no, what you need here is the sales department [10:43] When they hamstring you, that's about all you can do... [10:44] get someone who writes proposals to figure it out for you [10:44] Contact Redhat sales and ask them for a copy of their 508 sheet then copy it.... [10:44] or Suse [10:44] well, that wasn't planned but I just upgraded my kernel: computer froze so I had to reboot >< [10:45] monstro (1000@187.10.72.110) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:46] afron. That did it! [10:47] Wut? [10:47] http://www.redhat.com/solutions/government/accessibility/vpat5/ [10:47] SCORE! [10:47] Just what I needed. [10:47] My approach to problems... shotgun it! [10:48] RH even has a "section508@redhat.com" contact. Golden. [10:48] When your talking to the RH sales team, don't slip up and say "Slackware, er Redhat...." [10:49] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:49] LOL. Nah. Most of what I need is right on that page. I just have to parse out what I don't need (GNOME specifics, etc.). [10:49] btw your=you're [10:50] rafu1 (~rafu@77.53.11.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:50] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430275.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:50] I'm not planning on writing a book here, just enough to satisfy the trolls^H^H^H er, procurement professionals. [10:51] Heck, leave in the gnome stuff, they'll never check :) [10:52] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [10:52] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Thanks for the help...I got some reading to do. [10:52] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [10:52] I hope it's comic books [10:52] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:52] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [10:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Just a thought, I wonder how much money/man-hours is spent by people to fulfill that 508 requirement vs. the benefit of doing it.... [10:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Do the near-blind REALLY care that some programs have larger pointers and that it's documented? [10:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:56] I've spent waaay too many hours on this one alone. Not even counting the other dozen or so. Problem is that the waived exeptions are written broadly, but interpreted very narrowly (at least at my agency) and software and hardware that should obviously be exempt (specialized equipment to be used by gun carrying agents, for example) are a constant headache. [10:59] ...still, each one I do makes the next easier. [11:00] Just post a copy of your final document on Slackwiki so the next victim can find it easier.... [11:00] (...minus your personal details) [11:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-64-43-62.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:05] jhw (~jhw@p5798289D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:06] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) left irc: Quit: chomping [11:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-16-114.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Which MTA do you guys prefer? [11:15] sendmail but thats because it goes with the apps i use [11:15] Isn't it a config nightmare? [11:15] i would decide what you were going to do and then pick the mta that works best with it [11:15] arfon: pop mail from your IP? mpop works good [11:16] that all depends, i don't think so myself, but i don't feel i understand it either [11:16] I want ease to setup/maintain, IMAP and no open relays... [11:16] i can make it work, but i have no idea if i'm doing things efficiently or how to know if another way is better [11:16] TLS and smtp authenication... [11:16] well you've hit your first stumbling block [11:17] Hmmm, you're not selling me on sendmail... [11:17] your mta isn't where you get your mail from [11:17] rworkman: is there any kind of guarantee on your xorg-1.8 packages? like, if it breaks, do I get a hug or a candy? :-) [11:17] No but it is what gets the mail and sends it out [11:17] it only redirects it, then you have your imap or pop server to read it out from [11:17] right, if you're using it for outgoing mail, what you pick really doesn't matter [11:18] when it does matter is when you're receiving mail, and you want to process and filter it [11:18] setting up rules and bounces and aliases are all part of what an mta can handle [11:19] sendmail's flexibility makes it complex [11:19] but in most cases the app you want to use it with, has the instruction you need to make it work [11:19] so its not like you have to figure things out [11:20] What do you think of Postfix? [11:20] adrien: downgrading to a Slackware package is your only alternative if an unofficial package breaks... [11:20] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.91) joined ##slackware. [11:20] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:20] theres no reason you can't use either if you know how to configure them [11:21] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] if you're not sure, then follow the recommendations of the mail software or whatever you will use on your system [11:21] hi all. i've installed slackware on an old pc. i have only on NIC in this pc. slackware labelled it as eth0. the only other interface is loopback. can i rename it permanently to eth0? [11:21] alienBOB: yeah, I'm not too worried anyway, biggest part will probably be udev but I'm perfectly fine in the console anyway, I only use X for the browser [11:22] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [11:22] hi all. i've installed slackware on an old pc. i have only one NIC in this pc. slackware labelled it as eth1. the only other interface is loopback. can i rename it permanently to eth0? [11:22] there's an echo in here [11:22] OclkdMan, you sure there isn't an eth0? [11:22] OclkdMan: rename eth1 to eth0 is ossible OclkdMan [11:22] yes. sure [11:23] it's a udev persistent rule that's messing you up [11:23] OclkdMan, but yes, edit, your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [11:23] and let's chmod -x rc.hald [11:23] ifconfig -a shows only eht1 and lo [11:23] OclkdMan udev can name it to whatever you want based on MAC [11:23] and move the block from [1] to [o] [11:23] and move the block from [1] to [0] [11:23] Look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules OclkdMan - that is the file that determines the interface name [11:23] OclkdMan, what does ip add show say [11:24] ip addr show [11:24] that should show all the network hardware, even if its down [11:24] which ifconfig won't [11:24] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [11:25] won't ifconfig -a also show them all? [11:25] with lspci i have only one NIC [11:25] ...so i have to edit udev rules? [11:25] is there a posix command, or does bash have a function that lets me compare the difference between two strings, say /path/to/foo/bar and /path/to, which return "foo/bar"? [11:25] Probably [11:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:26] It's not hard [11:26] why slackware names it to eth1 :( ? [11:26] OclkdMan, why not try the inet conf file first [11:26] no one knows why udev does anything [11:26] OclkdMan: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [11:26] Skywise: ^ [11:27] no thanks [11:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-16-114.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:27] 16:24:02 < Skywise> no one knows why udev does anything [11:27] restarting inet1 nothing change. i have to add internet address in the eth1 part of inet1.conf because obviously eth0 addresses were ignored [11:27] looker (looker@tornado.ktu.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] ? [11:28] well, maybe that I should try starting X with vesa before trying to get nouveau [11:28] ah, might be mesa [11:29] you almost have some lyrics there [11:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:29] no problem. i'll edit 70-persistent-net.rules as you said [11:29] I know why udev does stuff, Xenu told me.... [11:34] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:36] Anything I should know before running 13.1 as a VirtualBox guest{ [11:36] s/}/?/ [11:37] Jizzai (~jizzai@ppp118-208-135-103.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:37] Let us know how it works... [11:38] ouyuv (~hpo3@218.193.181.223) left irc: Quit: ‚» [11:43] heh [11:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:43] i have heard of some problems since 13.1.. but i didnt take enough interest in what they were to remembe [11:43] r [11:46] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] <_slax0r_> Hi, I'm trying to enable S-Video output on my x600 card, but I'm having issues :/ [11:49] On the off chance anyone is interested. Based on what was found at the RH site, I googled for various "vpat" iterations and found this a KDE specific doc: http://accessibility.kde.org/reports/vpat_kde3.4.1.pdf It's for an older version, but it's more applicable, and I'll see what I can do to update it. I've havent used KDE for years, but since it's the primary Slack DE, it should work. [11:49] <_slax0r_> KDE4 is not recognizing the S-Video as conencted, but I managed to get a picture on the TV running this: xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600 && xrandr --output S-video --mode 800x600 && xrandr --output S-video --set tv_standard pal [11:50] <_slax0r_> but the whole screen isn't shown and it's flicking all the time [11:50] <_slax0r_> any help? (: [11:50] you'll probably need to put together and configure an xorg.conf file [11:50] _slax0r_: TVs don't run at 800x600, what is the resolution of your TV? [11:50] refresh rates, etc [11:51] and you tried something else with xrandr? like running only 'xrandr' and reading the lines? or running 'xrandr --auto' (better)? [11:52] <_slax0r_> after running --auto I just don't get a signal anymore [11:52] SpacePlod, the kde thing makes sense; the desktop environment would support access [11:52] or access features, or whatever [11:52] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:53] shonudo: exactly. I just needed the language and it seems the "VPAT" is the standard template. [11:53] <_slax0r_> I know 800x600 isn't a standard res. for a TV screen, but it's the only one I can set [11:53] the suggestion to check RH was dead on; it's enterprise, if any outfit had certs of all sorts it would be RHE [11:53] <_slax0r_> I'll pastebin the error in a sec [11:54] <_slax0r_> http://pastebin.com/6Kd2WHSB [11:55] Khratos (~jespinal@66.128.60.148) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:57] _slax0r_: w [11:57] _slax0r_: you tried 576p or something like that? [11:59] <_slax0r_> no, how do I? [12:00] mcury (~mcury@189.24.63.199) joined ##slackware. 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[12:10] <_slax0r_> 576x720 and 576x704 [12:10] 720x576 or 704x576, not the other way roud :P [12:11] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] <_slax0r_> it's the same anyway :) [12:14] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] ... [12:20] typing 'DESTIR' instead of 'DESTDIR' doesn't usually help [12:22] one day, one day, people will settle for a single configuration system and not hop from one to another [12:23] Action: turk182 punches John Lennon in the face [12:28] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:28] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) joined ##slackware. [12:29] sup, how would i install windows xp and keep existing slackware lilo bootloader? [12:29] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [12:29] you're going to have to reinstall lilo after you isntall xp [12:29] you can't, you need to just repair it afterwards [12:29] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:29] alright, can i do that from a puppy linux boot disk? [12:30] you can do it from a slackware boot disk [12:30] just mount, chroot, then 'lilo' [12:30] that simple? [12:30] that simple [12:31] would i have to mount everything or just root and boot [12:31] just root [12:31] k [12:31] and /boot if you are using it [12:31] ya ive got 10 partitions [12:31] separately [12:31] ya [12:31] anything linked to in your lilo.conf [12:31] you'll have to add windows to your lilo.conf first [12:32] i would do that after the fact [12:32] and just get lilo running again [12:32] alright [12:32] so youre not playing with two problems instead of one [12:32] well here goes [12:32] fremenblue (~ryan@170.213.131.190) left irc: Client Quit [12:33] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] fflo (~fflo@g225026183.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:34] mcury (~mcury@189.24.63.199) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [12:35] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [12:39] rworkman: built nouveau, it's working nicely (had to recompile mesa first) [12:40] rworkman: I've lost touchpad tapping however, trying to find out how to enable it [12:40] <_slax0r_> if I want to edit xorg.conf I need to create it first, do I need to cover everything(keyboard,mouse,...) or just the stuff I wish to edit? [12:40] only the part you need changed [12:42] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-231.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:44] rworkman: ok, I was using 'TapButton1 "1"' in the config file while the correct form was 'Option "TapButton1" "1"', had to do the same for 2 and 3 [12:45] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:46] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. 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[13:18] I just want to run it from command line, give it a filename, and have it display the image :) [13:21] display comes with slackware, as a part of imagemagick [13:22] xzgv [13:22] xv is good [13:23] rirombo: http://slackheads.org/builds/xzgv/pkg/13.1/ [13:24] sbsdoze (~spookywo0@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Thanks, will try them all :) [13:25] xv is shareware. is it the only shareware on official slack? [13:25] yes. cos pat knows the author? [13:27] viper1000 (~ronald@c-98-230-230-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Heh [13:27] rirombo, is PIO still giving you sugah? [13:28] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] mancha: Nope, has been working like a charm. Thanks a bunch :) [13:29] welcome, so the answer is YES, it is giving you sugar! (a good thing) [13:29] you'll know this when a lady gives you sugah :) [13:30] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [13:30] Action: rirombo rolls eyes. [13:30] hi, I just upgraded to -current and on reboot I am recieving an error from kdm "error loading shared library libck-connector.so.0: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory [13:30] sounds like an incmpkplete upgrade [13:31] slackpkg upgrade-all shows nothing new [13:31] you need consolekit, mayhaps [13:33] what does ls /var/log/packages/Console* [13:33] give... [13:33] no such [13:34] so install it, and be rid of the errors! [13:34] how come it did not install? [13:34] what did you upgrade from? [13:34] 13.0 [13:34] Consolekit didn't exist in 13.0 I am not familiar with your upgrade methodology [13:35] slackpkg [13:35] yeah and i don't touch those automated monsters... [13:35] anywyas, i've given you the solution :> [13:35] viper1000: well if you run -current, you are supposed to know how to do things like upgrading and reading documents and such. [13:35] BP{k}++ [13:36] viper1000, did you do slackpkg install-new? [13:36] and mancha has pretty much given you a hint where to look. Best of luck1 [13:36] BP{k}: and it says about consolekit in which document? [13:36] viper1000: YDIW. [13:36] dive: yes [13:37] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:37] revel0__ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:39] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:39] damn. apparently setting up SBCL will be harder than I thought [13:39] SBCL? [13:39] yes [13:40] vehn_z (~vehn_z@85.26.232.215) joined ##slackware. [13:40] lisp [13:40] ? [13:40] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:40] yes [13:40] optimising common lisp (compiler?) [13:40] clisp not good enough for you?!? [13:40] huh? [13:40] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] mancha: ConsoleKit worked [13:41] viper i know :) [13:41] SBCL and cmucl have some advantages over clisp according to everyone I talk to, and I was reading about some cool networking stuff and things that are nice in SBCL which I wanted to test out [13:42] in reality they are mostly the same [13:42] mancha: I understand though I am worried that there may be more packages that not have installed if install-new didn't detect ConsoleKit [13:42] after you install it i want a chess engine that learns to play from you, ok?!? [13:42] and pizza [13:42] LOL [13:42] viper, i would be too. which is why i would invest in figuring out this slackpkg tool if you choose to use it [13:43] because clearly you're doing something wrong. [13:43] mancha: it is the default package management tool for slackware [13:43] viper1000: not really. [13:43] viper1000: what mirror did you use to upgrade frmo? [13:44] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [13:44] viper, i'm also not a supporter of upgrading. i think people shold install new versions from scratch and i also am against regular folks running -current [13:44] i'm quite opinionated, ayup? [13:44] mancha: we already know the cpu on xboard will do WHATEVER it takes to stop you [13:44] mancha: Don't make it sound like that is a bad thing? ;-) [13:44] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:44] opinionated is one word for it [13:44] i have a local repo and also i used oregan state to try install-new and it found nothing new. I did a search for ConsoleKit and found it in l on my local machine [13:45] BP{k} heh, didn't mean to...I actually think it i the rightway to view those two issues. [13:45] being able to upgrade is a huge advantage to linux [13:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-224-203.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[14:55] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:55] wertik_ (~wertik@95-26-184-238.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:56] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:57] I installed slackware64-13.1 with full disk encryption as described in README_CRYPT.txt, ("Combining LUKS and LVM" section). It worked great. Then I installed windows 7 in another partition, which overwrote the MBR. Now I want to boot from the slackware install disc and chroot into my slackware installation and run lilo again. But chroot fails with "chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: Exec format error". Does anyone have any ideas what co [14:57] Fuck me... does cpunches never just give up?! [14:58] robertzaccour (~robert@24-183-222-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-224-203.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:58] is slackware a novelty os for enthusiasts? just curious [14:59] robertzaccour: I like it because it's so much less maintenance once it's installed properly [14:59] that makes sense [14:59] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:00] benagain: Did you boot into the installer environment, then unlock your LUKS device to allow access to the partition? [15:00] robertzaccour: what would qualify an OS as a "novelty OS" ? [15:00] not a lot of updates/upgrades? [15:00] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:00] rk4n3, needing work to get going initially. [15:00] robertzaccour: slackware has regular releases, and is very up-to-date, I'd say [15:01] rk4n3, not saying thats a bad thing [15:01] brb [15:01] robertzaccour: Surely a lack of updates/upgrades would indicate that the software provided is more secure and stable than other distributions? [15:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-226-174.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Rather than being a downside... [15:01] robertzaccour (robert@24-183-222-21.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:01] robertzaccour: slackware works out-of-the-box ... what kind of "work" are you implying that slackware takes to "get going" ? [15:02] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.38) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Tadgy: yes, I ran "cryptsetup luksOpen ..." then "vgscan --mknodes" then "vgchange -ay" [15:02] (I assume by updates/upgrades you mean for security issues) [15:02] benagain: Righty... then you're mouting your LVM device somewhere (/mnt ?) in order to do the chroot? 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[15:09] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:10] benagain: Any help? [15:10] Tadgy: I have to reboot to try this.... I'm looking up what that command does [15:11] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Well, the mount command just binds the /proc fs in the / to the proc dir in /mnt... so lilo can read partition info. [15:12] Ok, sounds good. I'll go try it [15:12] The "lilo -r ." is just running lilo relative to the current dir. Like doing a chroot, but without the chroot [15:12] ah nice! [15:13] that's all I need [15:13] well maybe not all... [15:13] but it's worth a try [15:13] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:15] benagain (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:15] You're welcome [15:16] sbs (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Disconnected by services [15:16] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:16] mfd_ (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:17] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:18] wertik_ (~wertik@95-27-226-174.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-226-174.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:20] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [15:23] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-giwjefgrimfgnloi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:23] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:23] OMFG! I wish cpunches/bagira/join_slackhappy would leave me alone [15:24] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:24] He's been sending me PMs since I came in here... just doesn't get the hint thats he's a stalker and needs psychological help! [15:24] haha.. poor Tadgy [15:24] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-68.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:24] Every time I block one of his nicks, he messages me from another! [15:26] I want to stab this guy in the face. Really. Give me a knife and I promise no one will be able to identify the body. [15:26] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:26] why do i care? [15:26] Sigh. I thought I had him ignored, then once not long back my senses were assaulted (and apeppered?) in #httpd by a "righteous". [15:27] hrm he must be afraid of me or something.. harassment free here :P [15:27] what were you doing in #httpd ? let's talk about that for a moment. [15:27] Tadgy: How about a gun? [15:27] Alan_Hicks: No.. too quick. I want to HURT him. [15:27] I was going to put up a Web page as monument to righteous stupidity, but BP{k} stopped me in time, informing me that it was Mr. Punches. [15:28] Tadgy: gut shoot him with some Winchester Ranger T series rounds then. [15:28] he's on his way to becoming a phenomenomenom..nom...nom [15:28] adaptr: I was stalking you, of course. [15:28] ah, okay then [15:29] rob0: when was cpunches in #httpd? [15:29] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn-253.95-102-12.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [15:29] He's like herpes - you think you've got it sorted, then your bell end erupts in sores again. [15:30] assalted. hahaha [15:30] Action: adaptr 's penny drops slowly sometimes [15:31] if one wants a kernel module to be loaded at boot time should one make a entry in /etc/modprobe.d [15:32] benagain (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:32] wertik_ (~wertik@95-27-166-156.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:33] dustybin: if one wants it to be autloaded and it isn't autoloaded by the presence of a mapping for the device, yes [15:33] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] dustybin: you can do that yourself too [15:33] Tadgy: When I ran lilo -r, I got the error: /mnt/sbin/lilo: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected [15:34] adaptr: i need to manually modprobe it87 to make lm-sensors work [15:34] everytime i reset [15:34] *reboot [15:34] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [15:35] benagain: Errr... it sounds to me like you've got some serious fs corruption going on there... [15:35] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-226-174.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:35] brb - need to sort fooooooooooooood [15:35] thumbs: not sure, I must have deleted the log of it before making the web page. I *think* it was around March 21-23, though, and IIRC you banned him. [15:35] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_rus [15:35] dustybin: yes. in case you hadn't noticed, sensors-detect offers to put the modules in modprobe.conf for you [15:36] rob0: oh, yes. [15:36] thumbs: Maybe at the time you did not know righteous was CPunches? [15:36] AND shows you the exact snip you need to add if you want to do it yourself [15:36] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [15:36] rob0: initially, no. But his behaviour betrayed him. [15:36] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:37] adaptr: sensors-detect created a new dir [15:37] /etc/sysconfig/ [15:37] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 608 Jul 7 20:25 lm_sensors [15:37] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:37] weird, it didn't for me [15:37] eek [15:38] anyway, run sensors-detect, and copy-paste its output into wherever you want to autoload from [15:38] maybe this could be the work of a malicious viral infection? [15:38] ok [15:39] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:39] adaptr: http://paste.debian.net/79929/plain/79929 [15:39] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-22.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] dustybin, you're not on slackware, are you? [15:41] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [15:41] yes i am [15:41] slackware64 13.1 [15:41] /etc/sysconfig is an upstart thing, iirc; /etc/init.d/ also is pretty shady [15:41] im using sensors what came with slackware [15:42] indeed [15:42] this is NOT a slackware lm-sensors [15:43] what the heck is it? [15:43] i didnt install sensors?! [15:43] I don't have an /etc/sysconfig either :( I don't run sensors though - maybe it's expected [15:43] PACKAGE NAME: lm_sensors-3.1.2-x86_64-1 [15:44] sensors-detect created it [15:44] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [15:45] dustybin: why did you answer YES to that question, then ? [15:45] gbit (~gbit@mail.daiby.com.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [15:45] I didn't a nd it showed me what I needed to add to rc.local. I did, and then ran it, and it works [15:45] OHHH [15:45] i just pressed YES to everything [15:45] gbit (~gbit@mail.daiby.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:45] i didnt read anything [15:46] hm .. [15:46] have i Failed. ? [15:46] YES [15:46] :( [15:46] rule 0 is: read [15:46] hey .. [15:46] i upgraded to 13.1 [15:46] gbit (~gbit@mail.daiby.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:46] and everything is quite ok [15:47] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:47] but i still get some quite random kernel panics [15:47] errordeveloper: how random? [15:47] roat (ba7cd562@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.124.213.98) joined ##slackware. [15:47] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:47] roat kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Plugging the spam hole. [15:47] and it doesn't quite wake up after susspend to RAM .. [15:47] * errordeveloper has quit (connection lost) [15:47] hehe [15:47] errordeveloper: what kernel are you using? [15:47] runnig slackware kernel (-huge) [15:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:48] errordeveloper: ah, don't use that kernel after installation. [15:48] before i had modified kernel config [15:48] and a radeon binary driver [15:48] so i was blaming those things [15:48] but now it's slackware kernel [15:48] and linux radeon module [15:48] errordeveloper: try the kernel with the initrd. [15:49] thumbs: to fix wake-ups? [15:49] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-22.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:49] benagain1 (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:49] hm ..ok [15:49] i shall try it then [15:49] thumbs: thanx :) [15:50] errordeveloper: i.e. the generic smp kernel. [15:50] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [15:52] benagain (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:53] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-75-155.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] Nick change: jeev -> jeev|Germany [16:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] thumbs: i just need to read /boot/README.initrd [16:01] thumbs: i have one more thing to blame [16:01] it could be reiserfs causing random panics [16:01] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-188.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] i have reiserfs (3.x) on /home [16:02] did it commit homocide yet? [16:02] homocide ? [16:02] errordeveloper: unlikely. [16:02] :P [16:03] errordeveloper: I use reiser on all my boxes, and I have no kernel panics. [16:03] hm ..i used to have problem with it .. [16:03] it's a Reiser joke. [16:03] on another system [16:03] because of it's developer [16:03] fatalnix: it would be if you called it homicide [16:03] *yawns* [16:03] ok, sure .. [16:03] alienBOB: thanks! I thought it was wrong [16:03] lol [16:03] and the joke kinda is kinda old. [16:03] hm ..but i was thinking it could be that reiserfs is un-mainteinde [16:04] do updates have to await parole hearings? [16:04] Depends on the sentence [16:04] I though Hans had some ppl take it over....? [16:04] He's maintaining it from the prison wifi. [16:04] NICE [16:04] lol [16:05] ok ..hm [16:05] it alreadydrove him insane as it is [16:05] it's a maximum security fs [16:05] wait, they don't have wifi in prison [16:05] oh, these jokes are killing me [16:05] ok ..may be it's something with this hardware [16:05] nice Mancha [16:05] or the drivers for some peace of hardware in this laptop [16:05] Action: mancha bows [16:05] and I believe it, coding a filesystem is bound to drive just about anyone insane [16:05] it's a sony vaio FW series [16:06] VGN-FW31e [16:06] they totally have wifi in prison, is called High School [16:06] lol [16:06] Nick change: jeev|Germany -> jeev [16:06] jeev: :( [16:06] Sooo, go to jail, run a pr0n empire? [16:07] umm, no thanks arfon [16:07] Wiat, tahat didn't come out right.... [16:07] wait and that [16:08] dude [16:08] wrong [16:08] bad [16:08] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] totally, especially since you are talking to a teenage girl arfon [16:08] I hope not [16:09] Pr0N = Prawn... you know shrimp [16:09] arfon, don't get flustered talking to teenage girls on irc is just like talking to any other guy [16:09] I wanna send my children to a school that forces me to buy them a MAC. [16:09] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] HA HA HA!!!! [16:10] Friends don't let friends buy Macs [16:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:11] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:11] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:12] KaMii: are you a teenage girl? [16:12] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:12] Uh oh [16:12] irpr (~fuzzix@109.76.145.5) joined ##slackware. [16:13] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] No ASL plz [16:13] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [16:13] no no [16:13] I am really curious [16:13] tsccof: assuming it isn't a lie :P [16:13] arfon: got a problem with deaf people? :P [16:13] but, they do exist and use slackware [16:13] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:14] sHE's a teeage girl with a beard and ARRP card... :) [16:14] raela: yea! I mean, this is why I am curious, I don't tend to see many teenage girls running Slack [16:14] Actually I know a guy on IRC who works for the .AU prison ministry, and there, prisoners do have limited Internet access. [16:14] tsccof: I started on slack when I was 15, and I am female [16:15] Nick change: irpr -> irpr_ [16:15] but, I don't expect anyone to believe me about that ;) (though a few people in here have met me) [16:15] raela: ! this is nice! [16:15] i'm looking to pay someone to help me figure out why a particular startup script will not run on our Slack 11 box. Two pretty smart people have looked at it so far and haven't been able to figure it out. [16:15] there's a teenage girl runing Slack? [16:15] raela: i keep needing to remind my brain that we're the same age [16:15] anyone up for it? [16:15] nope [16:15] ...and they wake up. [16:15] raela: but you like vodka nowadays haha! [16:15] irpr_ (~fuzzix@109.76.145.5) left irc: Quit: *whistle* [16:15] initself, any errors or other kind of feedback ? [16:16] initself, have you tried chmod a+x yet? [16:16] I totally know loads of teenage girls that run Slack. They are the trafficed vietnamise ones that I make do video shows for the punters every night :) [16:16] maco: hrm.. just curious, do I come across as older or younger? [16:16] I have a daughter, 21, who started in Slackware as a teenager. [16:16] trhodes: there isn't much to work with, and not sure how to report what "doesn't" run on startup. [16:16] tsccof: well yeah cause vodka is awesome :) [16:16] raela: older. but then... PhD's'll do that [16:16] This is funny, I only know of 1 1/2 ppl who run Slack besides me [16:16] maco: yeah, I cheat in that sense ;) [16:16] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] initself: add echo statements to see the program flow [16:16] And even then, I'm the only die-hard [16:16] i have an rc script that is also in rc.local as if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.tomcat ] then /etc/rc.d/rc.tomcat start fi [16:17] there's half a person running Slack?? [16:17] trhodes: so echo and then look at the console? [16:17] arfon: who is the half? [16:17] Yeah, he's 1/2 Ubuntu :( [16:17] arfon: IS THE ARMS?? OR THE LEGS?? [16:17] oh... [16:17] Slack desktop, Ubuntu laptop [16:17] initself: sure, that's one way - methodically place statements in the startup to narrow down where it fails [16:17] arfon: I thought you would say he is 1/2 black [16:17] heh heh.. Ubuntard [16:18] Spartan, it's the smart part. The dumb part runs Ubuntu [16:18] i don't socialize with anyone who runs slackware [16:18] exactly.. Ubun-tard [16:18] I don't think he's 1/2 black.... [16:18] initself: do you have direct access to the machine with the startup troubles ? [16:19] hey... is Ubuntu came out with another version... would they call it Ubunthree? [16:19] if** [16:19] No Ubuntu++ [16:19] Skywise: what do you run? [16:19] haha [16:19] trhodes: i can get someone who does available [16:19] slackware [16:19] i am sshed in [16:20] I don't know anyone irl who runs linux.. well one person has a netbook with some distro.. that's it (brother I guess has a slack box sometimes) [16:20] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:20] but i know you guys smell like cheese [16:20] Raela, that's somewhat of a blessing.... [16:20] initself: the only way that i know off ottomh to see the consol if you aren't physically there is with setterm, and it only show a few lines of startup output [16:20] I made about 5 people switch to Linux [16:20] and my grandfather runs Arch [16:20] he is 72 [16:20] raela: thats not true! you went to SELF! [16:20] raela: you know me, and Alan_Hicks, and vbatts, and NaCl [16:21] Good for the old dude! [16:21] you drove two of us around :P [16:21] initself: instead of echoes to stdout, just write to a file [16:21] Nick change: Deutschland|Roin -> Roin [16:21] arfon: he likes Arch a lot, lol [16:22] STUPID SPAIN WON [16:22] personally, I run 2 types of linux: Slackware (on it now) and Ubuntu 8.04 [16:22] jeev: \o/ [16:22] I'm glad he's not one of those Gentoo elitist! [16:22] trhodes: isn't this a proper newline in bash? [16:22] echo "Completed rc.ntpd from rc.local\n"; [16:22] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [16:23] initself: yes, but you need "echo -e" [16:23] to evaluate special characters [16:23] stupid adrien [16:23] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] maco: I mean in my geographical area ;) I don't see you guys regularly.. and you left out poor XGizzmo_ [16:23] jeev: thanks for the compliment =) [16:24] initself: plain echo "Completed rc.ntpd from rc.local" >> startup.log # sounds best for your setup, initself [16:24] Action: initself tries. [16:24] does it seem to fail around rc.tomcat ? [16:24] Action: maco still needs to figure out how to install slackware on a machine with no (working) optical drive that cant boot from usb [16:25] trhodes: yes [16:25] pxe? [16:25] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [16:25] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [16:25] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [16:26] natex (~natex@cpe-24-59-4-137.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Action: NaCl looks around [16:28] maco: slackware can do pxe install yes [16:28] initself: so nothing past rc.tomcat executes in rc.local ? [16:28] slackware can install from most sources [16:28] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] raela: ok. i'll have to try to set that up [16:28] except when a wireless interface is involved [16:29] tekzilla (~jon@d013041.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:29] ive done pxe installs, but ive never been the one setting up the pxe server [16:29] wireless is a pain anyway :P [16:29] You're telling me. :P [16:29] ..or a vinyl disc... [16:29] Action: NaCl asks arfon to show me a vinyl disc drive [16:29] him, rather [16:30] Action: NaCl flails [16:30] I have an old Realistic Vinyl Disc 'drive' [16:30] tekzilla (~jon@d086230.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:30] it is multi density also! 45, 33 AND 78! [16:31] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [16:31] what interface? [16:32] RCA :) [16:32] LJS (~frank@98.8.84-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Hi ! [16:34] Is thet "HI" or "HA"? [16:34] thet=that [16:34] It's just greetings :) [16:34] Hi [16:34] Hi arfon [16:34] Hi LJS [16:34] trhodes: i dont think the rc.local file executed at all on startup [16:35] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [16:35] initself: it's called by rc.M after the other rc.d/* scripts that are +x [16:35] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:35] if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.local ]; then <<< in rc.M [16:36] well, just called at the end of rc.M [16:36] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-231.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:36] have you changed rc.M ? [16:36] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:37] initself: ^^ [16:37] no, not me, but maybe someone did [16:37] alienBOB, are You here ? Just wanted to give You news / info about Slackware-Live (if You have time) [16:39] initself: it wouldn't hurt to to sprinkle echo "entering rc.$whatever" >> startup.log statements all over your rc.M if you're sure rc.M is where the issue is [16:39] LJS: hi. I am not currently doing anything with a live CD. So, I am afraid at this point there is little time to take a deep dive. Does not mean you should stay silent, though [16:40] trhodes: well, it works when i run it manually [16:40] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-139-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:40] why would it be any different on startup? [16:40] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:40] alienBOB: just wanted to tell You that I have worked a lot on it, with the help o Zenwalk team [16:41] initself: could be the shell environment differs or so... it's hard to guess without feedback [16:41] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-231.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] trhodes: im gonna see what the startup brings me this time [16:41] who tried 2.12.0 intel graphic drivers? [16:42] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:42] redbox (~derxob@unaffiliated/derxob) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:42] metrofox: getting any problem? [16:42] LJS: perhaps the Zenwalk team will adopt your script then? [16:42] alienBOB: they seam very interested. [16:42] alienBOB: I have adopted the solution :) [16:43] sorta makes more sense to add slackware to their list then to zenwalk to slackware [16:43] trhodes: echo "ran rc.httpd in rc.M" >> startup_log [16:44] didn't write anything [16:44] oh [16:44] alienBOB: and I have made it to be simple to use (I hope), non intrusive (works without ANY modification on Slackware - especially live startup is now the same as normal startup). [16:44] where is startup_log when system is booting? [16:44] trhodes: is it in /etc/rc.d ? [16:44] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-166-156.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:44] initself: wherever you put it :) [16:44] / perhaps [16:45] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:45] found in / [16:45] i put 3 debug statements [16:45] alienBOB: and the bonus is: it works without any kernel modification, fast, but support AUFS and SquashFS with LZMA compression without the need to tell anything to the build script. [16:45] one for rc.mysqld, one for rc.httpd and one for rc.local [16:45] startup_log on has: [16:45] ran rc.mysqld in rc.M [16:46] so rc.M isn't running rc.httpd or rc.local [16:46] at least not there i put my statement [16:47] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*cpunches@72.95.96.* expired. [16:47] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*cpunches@72.95.96.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:47] Did you initialize the mysql DB as rc.mysqld says? [16:47] mysql is not my problem [16:47] oh you mean maybe the script is failing there? [16:48] sounds like it [16:48] i moved rc.local in front of it to test [16:48] Dumb question here initself, but did you check the CHMOD on those init scripts? [16:48] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:48] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:49] good to ask the obvious :) Skywise asked earlier [16:49] I figured [16:50] I missed it when I was blabbering [16:50] rob0++ [16:50] that was it [16:51] wow, what does rc.mysql have to do with rc.local? [16:51] now i have other problems [16:51] mfd_ (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:51] alienBOB: if You want to take the project and lead it (or codevelop, or just give guidance lines / specifications, what You want), tell me, when You have time for it. I hope You will find it usefull and good enough for Slackware. [16:51] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-189-238.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:51] If you make rc.mysqld +x before setting up the database, it hangs. [16:52] Good to know Rob0, thnx [16:52] Arguably that is a rc.mysqld bug, too. [16:52] LJS: are you saying it works with the vanilla Slackware kernel? [16:52] although it's just as much a PEBKAC [16:52] LJS: thanks but no thanks. It looks good however, but it is not what I want [16:52] sahko: Yes: that was the base specification [16:53] alienBOB: ok. would You tell me what is missing ? [16:53] alienBOB: or maybe it is too much functionnalities now ? [16:53] It does too much LJS. But I will certainly look at your recent additions [16:54] adrien: nono I was just curious about it [16:54] metrofox: ok ;-) [16:54] I wanted to know how they work on the system, if there's any issue(even if it isn't written on the intellinuxgraphics' page) [16:54] alienBOB: I am agree with You, but You can use the 0.1.x version, it is much simplier [16:55] I read the components and I see most components upgraded than the ones I've got in slackware... [16:55] like libdrm, mesa, cairo etc... [16:55] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:56] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:57] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] ok, now i have rc.local running rc.tomcat, but, well, it doesn't run! [16:59] tsccof (~highcompa@bruna.gramadosite.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:59] nothing on the console..... [17:00] where'd you get that rc.tomcat from [17:00] does it start with a shebang? [17:00] #!/bin/sh [17:00] wrote it myself [17:00] start is [17:00] su daemon /usr/local/tomcat/bin/tomcat.sh start [17:00] is that a problem? [17:01] user0_ (~user0@adsl-99-141-235-7.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) left irc: Quit: Saindo [17:01] i haven't started things that way before, try it wi thout su [17:01] or use the full path to su [17:03] user0 (~user0@adsl-99-141-229-209.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-8.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] Nick change: user0_ -> user0 [17:05] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:05] initself: try running "su daemon /usr/local/tomcat/bin/tomcat.sh start" from a terminal yourself - what do you see? [17:08] genti (gent@gnewsense.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. 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[17:10] initself: you could try the tomcat available from SBo. Or do you need a special setup? [17:10] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@201-68-172-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-0-43-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:14] alienBOB: works great [17:14] /bin/su daemon /usr/local/tomcat/bin/tomcat.sh start [17:14] ^^^ - not running from rc.tomcat [17:14] i've at least determined that the appropriate startup scripts are all running [17:14] Then you'll have to go look at logs [17:15] LJS (~frank@98.8.84-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:15] alienBOB: which ones? [17:15] or maybe check your root email [17:15] how do you check root mail? [17:16] cat /var/mail/root I think [17:16] pprkut: special [17:16] (That's how I do it on an AIX and Suse box) [17:17] initself: ah, ok. Well, having a look at it might still not hurt. Maybe you get one or the other idea from it :) [17:17] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-48.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [17:17] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:17] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. [17:20] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:26] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:28] environment variable! [17:28] that's what I meant about environment differing :) [17:28] trhodes++ [17:28] thanks for the help everyone! [17:29] man, that took months to fix [17:29] yw :) [17:29] (not all in a row) [17:29] haha [17:29] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@201-68-172-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:30] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-172-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[17:45] thrice`: well, currently I have 0 accel I think [17:46] ok, I have some but the speed is really much lower [17:46] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [17:46] (as the page you linked to says, but really, that's too slow to be enjoyable) [17:46] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.75.231) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:47] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:48] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.* expired. [17:48] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:48] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:49] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) got netsplit. [17:49] biker (~biker@187.146.82.36) got netsplit. 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[17:58] you're a fatalist, fatalnix [17:58] a 10 Mbit half duplex 24 port access line, with a 100 Mb full duplex trun line switch [17:58] i transfer big ass files :/ right now im trying to install snowleopard on my laptop :/ [17:58] a fatalist? [17:58] sad fatalnix [17:58] the split is ending, not the net [17:58] i've got 10.5 but i need to change my wifi nic [17:58] ah alright [17:58] stupid intel [17:59] sahko: edited config, quit X, started it again ;-) [17:59] I usually don't mind 10 Mbit because in the outside world you normally would never have a connection close to 10 Mbit anyways [17:59] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [18:00] So when I transfer files at like 1.2 Megs a sec or so it's really appealing to me. [18:01] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) returned to ##slackware. [18:01] I have a 15mbit line, so 10mbit would not be very cost-effective [18:01] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] I'm not saying you can't [18:02] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by brown.freenode.net [18:02] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:02] I'm just saying it's uncommon [18:02] Night all [18:02] for residential [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:04] adaptr: it better not be cable [18:05] because shoving 15 Mbit through coax is like a telecommunications sin if you look at it one way... [18:05] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:05] i've got 18 and 25mbit [18:05] :/ [18:05] fatalnix: I could get 120mbit if I used cable [18:06] Action: jeev wants 10000mbit at home [18:06] and it's not uncommon at all here [18:06] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF7D9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:06] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:06] After you go over about a couple gigaherz around 4v peak to peak you signals practicly gone. [18:07] through coax [18:07] at about what was it [18:07] a few hundred feet [18:08] I have 60/6 Mbit over cable at home [18:08] you're ranting into /dev/null [18:08] we get up to 120/10 here [18:08] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-8-173.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] 155/155 if you get a FIOS location [18:08] no I've done it with oscilliscopes. [18:09] it's hard to believe you can get cable at that speed. [18:09] very hard to believe [18:09] oh, sure.. oscilloscopes... yeah, sure... somebody fetch the white jacket [18:09] fatalnix: it's cute how you persist, however, reality begs to differ :) [18:10] I'm just judging by my tests in class last semester [18:10] It is hard reality that I get full 60 Mbit bandwidth if I download from the ISP's ftp server, or my Usenet server [18:10] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:10] alienBOB: who do you use ? eweka caps at 50 I believe, I have considered getting cable just to leech :) [18:10] Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS fatalnix [18:10] USenext [18:11] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:11] fatalnix: in class.. okay. perhaps you want to gather some experience before going off on such ..weird.. rants [18:11] alienBOB: any good ? better than 7.50/month ? [18:11] (and 300+ days retention, I should add) [18:12] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] astraweb [18:12] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] you can purchase by volume or monthly unlimited [18:12] I oculdn't be arsed to calculate, but they must have a metric fuckton of SAN to cope with that traffic. [18:12] alienBOB: That's pretty interesting [18:12] fatalnix: it's also nearly 15 years old ! [18:13] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [18:13] well my instructor was old as fuck, he worked for the company that made AT&T's modems, I forgot what it was called. I couldn't even prove to him that 0 and 255 as a subnet is legal in today's networking because they were never used. [18:14] back when bell labs was around [18:14] bunnyboi (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message! [18:14] and the whole 9 yards [18:14] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] adaptr: I lied, my usenet provider caps at 20 Mbit, but has nearly 600 days retention. Btw it is not usenext but xsnews [18:15] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:15] astraweb has no caps [18:15] double-breasted liar! [18:15] Skywise: however, it won't be as cheap as ours :) [18:16] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:16] Chinforinfula (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [18:16] 5.60 euro/month [18:16] Nick change: Chinforinfula -> ViniciusPXMB [18:16] if I can get a good job I can get 20 Mbit DSL here, it's the fastest residently available we have besides grouping T lines from midmaine [18:16] eweka is 7.50, 50mbit uncapped [18:16] in our area [18:16] fatalnix: you wil lget maybe 15 or 16 mbit, it's the practical limit for ADSL [18:16] I have never used, nor do I even understand, what usenet is :p [18:16] I get 15 [18:16] its only 50 bucks a month or so [18:17] astraweb is $10/mo 690 days retention, 20 connections, ssl enabled or you can buy 24gb for $10 or 180gb for $25 [18:17] adaptr: for 8.20 you get unlimited bandwidth [18:17] thrice`: its where you use the net to as questions [18:17] :) [18:17] ask* [18:17] alienBOB: cheapskate :) [18:18] I don't use it all that much, and I share the account with someone else so it is even cheaper [18:18] indeed [18:18] i don't see how you can beat 180gb for $25 [18:18] haha, my friend registered my laptop with the university of maine which is 15 Mbit wireless, he set it up to last forever so I can just go to Umaine when I want a fast connection :D [18:18] Skywise: um. 50mbit uncapped. that would be terabytes per month, for 7.50 [18:19] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Skywise: to be precise, 16+ terabytes per 30 days. that translates into less than 50 cents per terabyte. [18:19] you know it would be cool to rent a line to an NAP [18:19] thats pretty spify [18:19] but you'd never be able to [18:20] adaptr: that's not bad at all [18:22] I regularly reach 1Tb in a month, if it' slow or I discover some new TV series I like [18:22] *things are slow [18:23] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:30] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:30] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [18:30] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [18:31] on the website, the "install help" section still has floppy bootdisk info, should probly say something about not being used in new releases [18:32] do all those providers differ in terms of content? [18:32] Nick change: x-ip -> cleaningmyself [18:32] sahko: mostly not. each usenet peer deciees which groups they want to carry, or propagate, but the big ones are available on all providers [18:32] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:33] the one I use has over 80000 groups available, out of I think roughly 150000 worldwide [18:33] MrJackson, the front page of http://slackware.com/ is about the only one being maintained. [18:33] the volume is in numbers you can't even pronounce, like petabytes of storage [18:34] rob0, thats what i figured [18:35] IIRC I volunteered to help with that around Slackware 9.x, got no reply. [18:36] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:37] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:37] benagain (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:38] benagain1 (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:42] dbpatankar (~digvijay@220.227.207.12) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:45] rob0: you just reminded me of mr robotoc [18:45] roboto* [18:45] I don't know why [18:45] domo arigato mr. rob0to [18:46] i think maybe thats why [18:46] but i'm just guessing [18:49] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:49] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:50] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:55] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [18:55] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [18:56] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [19:01] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:03] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:07] I am a robot. I am an android. [19:07] I am a man. A man _machine_. [19:07] which is it bub [19:09] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*cpunches@72.95.96.* expired. [19:09] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*cpunches@72.95.96.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:12] Did Mr.s Punches back apology cookies? [19:12] I didn't get one. [19:12] no, the bot removes bans automatically after a set time [19:12] Ahh. [19:14] He's so massively leet anyways, and gets past the bans like a super professional cracker. We're helpless. [19:15] http://slackadelic.com/2010/07/07/worth-my-time-not-worth-a-title/ [19:15] I'm trying to remind myself why I never use the kvm slackbuild but here I am using it this time lol [19:15] I used to have a reason [19:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] that article I pasted includes the full context of the conversation that was 'hilighted' on their blog [19:16] Is he still unwelcome? [19:16] byteframe: I would say 'yes' considering it appears that slackboy has a ban added to him for it [19:17] Dominian, iirc Skywise is he. I'm not out for blood, just confused. [19:17] oh yeah... doesn't work mabe. [19:17] maybe* [19:17] burshki (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [19:17] lol [19:18] hehe I don't think so [19:21] you talking about the guy who keeps getting banned in here? [19:21] or whatever it was [19:21] fatalnix, si. [19:21] i think your detector needs adjustment [19:22] Ssh, Don't give away your position! [19:22] lol [19:22] hehe [19:23] I relatively certain. Try not trash your 'nice boy' nick. [19:23] lol [19:23] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] ok, you gotta stop, i don't wanna laugh anymore [19:24] omg [19:25] burshki (dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:25] benagain (~Jonathan@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:26] you guys make me picture the scene of this channel as dark & quiet, listening for depth charges [19:26] Action: ananke just finds it amusing [19:27] hehe [19:27] now my sides are gonna hurt [19:27] It's not _that_ funny. [19:27] lol [19:27] One 'lol will suffice, too. [19:28] if you were being persued by inspector cluseau you'd be lafffin too [19:28] daemonhunter (~atof@58.69.78.160) joined ##slackware. [19:28] its not like i'm suspicous of myself [19:29] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-139-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:31] how about if inspector javert is after you [19:31] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.30.50) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:32] Dominian, is that your site/blog? [19:33] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) joined ##slackware. [19:33] byteframe: why? [19:33] Dominian, cool stuff. [19:33] :P [19:33] Dominian, worst post in the history of posts, ever [19:33] join_slackhappy (~cpunches@72.95.96.226) joined ##slackware. [19:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*cpunches@72.95.96.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:33] join_slackhappy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Punches, you are a "poisonous person" and no longer welcome here. Google it. [19:33] slack3r36 (~dcash@c-68-47-172-49.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] jeev: I know, I suck [19:34] :> [19:34] is mysql really in jeaprody ? [19:34] jeopardy [19:34] lol [19:36] oh that was last year haha [19:36] Oh and he PMs me [19:36] he penis massages? [19:36] har [19:37] bagira, I know you have another account in here. No one is driven to your channel but your ludicrous hear say. [19:37] i ignore all pms by default [19:37] slack3r36 (~dcash@c-68-47-172-49.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:37] You cut out specific context of the conversation to "FIT" what you wanted people to say, you're only upset that I actually showed the whole conversation [19:37] and if someone needs to pm, its easy to /ignore -x them [19:37] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:37] Skywise: nah.. PMs are fun [19:37] lol [19:37] i been laffin too much lately for that kinda fun [19:38] Skywise, tell me more. [19:38] Skywise: the more he PMs, the more stuff I have to stick on my blog :) [19:38] Dominian, that feeds the tard, however. It might be conterproductive. [19:38] Dominian: my line about righteous in #httpd was cut out, but adaptr's reply to me was left in. As was a /join message. [19:38] We should just refer him to livejournal, or something. [19:38] rob0: go figure [19:38] byteframe: possibly, don't care. [19:39] you can /ignore p *!*@* [19:39] If it was going to be edited for relevance, my line was relevant, and the /join was surely not. [19:39] rob0: I wish I still had the /pm he sent me when he got banned. [19:39] fatalnix: might as well reveal yourself. [19:39] oh btw I'm "blatantly" lying with my post [19:39] considering I included all context! [19:39] actually, you can /ignore for dcc and other stuff as well [19:39] woo [19:39] Skywise: aye [19:39] rob0: that /pm had so much hatred. [19:40] thumbs: and probably a great deal of stupidity too [19:40] fatalnix: you did twist and spin it :) I took a vote, and the vote says "you're psycho" [19:40] Dominian, would you accept a pee emm from myself? [19:40] I WIN! [19:40] rob0: oh yeah. [19:40] byteframe: sure.. why not? [19:40] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Dominian: fatalnix can't be Chris. [19:41] thumbs: Skywise then? [19:41] I know whom. [19:41] ooo a mystery! [19:41] Dominian: heh... no. [19:41] :) [19:42] Dominian: ok, I guess I missed the fun - what post on what website? [19:42] alisonken1home: slackadelic.com [19:42] alisonken1home: just review that and follow the link to what spawned it [19:42] Action: byteframe bets his turkey-token on it being Skywise. [19:42] anyway back to figuring out this iline issue [19:43] Dominian: what did I do? [19:43] Nick change: cleaningmyself -> x-ip [19:44] fatalnix: nada. apparently since I lie a lot I must be psycho too. Just have to play the part [19:45] town (~town@adsl-70-242-64-71.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] byteframe, did you notice his getting automatically banned when he rejoined? [19:45] hello everyone [19:45] Tadgy (~tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Skywise, !help [19:45] Action: Tadgy hears he's been "cpunched" :) [19:46] lol [19:46] Dominian: have you read that website's mission page? [19:46] last 3 paragraphs are funny [19:47] town (town@adsl-70-242-64-71.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) left ##slackware. [19:47] alisonken1home: yeah, I had to stop to go take a pee though [19:47] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) left irc: Quit: Why can't I just eat my waffle? [19:47] hm [19:47] tmi? [19:48] DUDE [19:48] my guitar did NOT want to hear that [19:48] Apparently i'm a "Slackware Admins" now... [19:48] adobe flash player, swf player, or gnash swf player? [19:48] adobe best? [19:48] I found logs of cpunches trolling #mysql, too! [19:48] bagira (~bagira@unaffiliated/bagira) joined ##slackware. [19:48] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:48] bagira kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Punches, you are a "poisonous person" and no longer welcome here. Google it. [19:48] swfdec player* [19:48] Tadgy: a bloodthirsty one, at that! [19:48] C00re, there's another one coming up in quality. forget the name. [19:49] rob0: Indeed. [19:49] ok [19:49] C00re, "lightspark". [19:49] What I find amusing about his "log" is that it doesn't show the many, many PMs he sent me without permission and from two different IDs. [19:49] And me telling him to leave me alone. [19:50] And when i blocked one of them, he went to another ID! [19:50] It looked hard to compile, and the code is only from git atm, but phoronix was very positive. [19:50] Tadgy: yeah, Chris just earned a lifetime ban with this. [19:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: shonudo [19:51] I'm not even a ##slackware op/admin, so I can't see how the "Slackware Admins" are threatening his life. [19:51] Can someone please tell me how it's getting past the bans? [19:51] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] no, i don't think so [19:51] primarily because its not happening [19:51] Turkey Token. [19:52] Tadgy: Alan_Hicks is, and he mentioned a gun. [19:52] lets all just jam on our guitars and drive "it" away [19:52] Gun Violence is bad yall, beside's it's an irc bot anyways. [19:52] rob0: Pah... he suggested *I* use a gun... not himself.. [19:52] hmmm, good point [19:52] ah, good Chris quotes here: http://www.noobfarm.org/index.php?dest_page=46 [19:53] lol [19:53] Tadgy: Yeah but your conversation was taken out of context to benefit his own thought process. I corrected that mistake [19:53] Cpunches is an irc bot that has gained sentience. No human could be this stupid and weird. [19:53] really? [19:53] Skaperen, !quit [19:53] Skywise, !quit [19:53] Dominian: I've only seen the one url of his log - is there any other stuff around? [19:54] you're supposed to type that with a / [19:54] Skywise, /quit [19:54] no, just /quit [19:55] Ah snap! [19:55] *sigh* [19:55] Can't phule me. [19:56] you ever hear of noobfarm? [19:57] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:57] EARTHQUAKE IN LA [19:57] Has anyone else been suffering from Java segfaults in 13.1/-current? I can't get Eclipse to stay alive for more than a few minutes :/ [19:57] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.159) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Tectonic seg-fault. [19:58] lol yea [19:58] GrooveDroid, I don't know, I'm new to java and eclipse, but it works for me, I have Version: 3.6.0 Build id: I20100608-0911 [19:58] jeev, you affected? [19:59] http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/ci10736069.html 5.9! [19:59] jeev caused it, duh [19:59] byteframe, i felt it. [20:00] i farted and it just shook, i didn't know [20:00] bitlord: hm, mine's a few days older. [20:00] must've been one powerful ass fart since i'm in LA [20:00] jeev, there was a earthquake a few weeks back in canada I was fortunate enough to barely detect down in New England (the better one). [20:00] it was so powerful it messed up caltech's seismic machines and confused it to be in another place [20:00] Mother Earth is getting fiesty. [20:01] s/fiesty/feisty. [20:01] i dont know why i love earthquakes [20:01] jeev: it's just now showing on the USGS site [20:01] trhodes, yea i pasted it as soon as i saw it [20:02] beat the USGS by about 6 minutes :) [20:02] http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/FaultMaps/116-33.html [20:02] (and that's where google gets their earthquake data) [20:03] heh [20:03] i want to find their sensors and fart beside them [20:03] californians will shit themselves [20:03] they have tasers for those situations [20:04] a taser cant stop my ass gas [20:04] http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.4175+-116.4827(M5.9+-+SOUTHERN+CALIFORNIA+-+2010+July+07++23:53:33+UTC)&ll=33.4175,-116.4827&spn=2,2&f=d&t=h&hl=e [20:04] you don't think you're the first california to want to fart on a seizmometer [20:04] it's so weird that it can pinpoint it [20:04] i wonder how accurate it is [20:05] it gets more accurate as more sensors are tripped [20:05] but since the material isn't uniform theres still some error in travel speed calcs [20:06] why dont you find errata and bugs on the seismic machines? i just wondered the accuracy rate, make up an umber [20:06] oh, that would be easier [20:06] oh, there were aftershocks too i knew i felt it [20:06] i was hoping to be more or less correct, my bad [20:07] how does 5 sound [20:07] 5 what [20:07] units [20:07] i dunno, i just made it up [20:07] magnitude changed from 5.9 to 5.4 [20:07] 5 trhodes [20:07] it's double a fathom [20:07] no [20:08] each trhode is fathom x 2 / 4.31 [20:09] better then furlongs per fortnight [20:09] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] that's why english shit is stupid [20:10] 84.863109 centimeters, jeev [20:10] cuvee (~ncb@71.22.124.213) joined ##slackware. [20:10] oh, the size of my penis [20:11] do you pass out when you get erect? [20:11] don't answser [20:11] ewwww [20:11] boys boys [20:11] most people wouldn't but he will [20:11] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:11] i forgot [20:13] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-232-81-37.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:17] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-231.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:19] lol [20:21] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.69.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.79.71) joined ##slackware. [20:24] groo (~groo@189-18-131-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:24] groo (~groo@189-18-131-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:25] grazymax (~grazymax@87.13.165.41) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:25] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [20:31] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-172-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:31] i got a error on my startup, something connected to xscreensaver [20:31] it says cannont display 0 error on startup authorization problem etc etc. [20:31] then try and fix etc etc [20:33] thrice` nice idea [20:33] blacklinux, you can avoid having to be more precise if you use pastebin.com to show us your error. [20:33] ok then [20:34] if you expect useful responses, provide useful information :) [20:34] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.86.45) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:35] 1 sec [20:35] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:36] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:37] His terminal is running. [20:37] (so he has to go catch it) [20:37] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:39] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [20:40] xscreensaver:cannot open display: :0 [20:40] xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was blacklinux/shadow [20:40] xscreensaver:running as blacklinux/users [20:41] spiki2 (~spiki@95.180.86.45) joined ##slackware. [20:41] xscreensaver:errors at startup are usually authorization problem [20:41] that's it thrice` [20:42] so change to runlevel 4 and login graphically [20:43] then after that, can i switch back to runlevel 3 again? [20:43] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:43] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [20:44] yeah [20:44] ohh [20:44] you are really wise Skywise :) [20:44] thx for noticing [20:45] cuvee (~ncb@71.22.124.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:46] cuvee (~ncb@71.22.124.213) joined ##slackware. [20:46] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [20:48] cuvee (~ncb@71.22.124.213) left irc: Client Quit [20:49] workman is awesome [20:49] biker (~biker@187.146.82.36) joined ##slackware. [20:50] biker (~biker@187.146.82.36) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:53] well that is me dumbfounded [20:54] hmm [20:54] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. 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[21:32] hi all, i have a question, I just installed slackware 13 and I want to run my wireless card, which is a broadcom 4312, I download the package b43-fwcutter and firmware from slackbuilds, install them, use the b43-fwcutter-w / lib / firmware wl_apsta_mimo. o and the output was "cannot open input file "wl_apsta_mimo.o" how i can fix it ? [21:32] Google is a good place to start. [21:33] search for the error message [21:33] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Quit: mini vacation time [21:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*cpunches@72.95.96.* expired. [21:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*cpunches@72.95.96.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:34] That error looks pretty clear; sounds like the file is not there. [21:34] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:34] but the file is in the directory [21:35] did you really put spaces in the pathname? [21:37] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:37] yes i put correct the dir [21:37] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:37] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:38] daemonhunter (atof@58.69.78.160) left ##slackware. [21:42] Haxor: the b43-fwcutter is only used when packaging the b43-firmware package. [21:42] once you have it installed, it provides the firmware. there shouldn't be a need to further run the fwcutter tool [21:43] ok. then i use the modprobe commando to load the module ? [21:44] commando, no i have underwear on. but you could `modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43` [21:44] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-13.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] that'll remove the broadcom driver, and reinsert it. then `dmesg | tail` should give you an idea about wheter it utilized the firmware when loading the driver [21:47] i installer the sta driver from broadcom and the wifi is now operational [21:47] Haxor (~arukard@189.229.35.55) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [21:48] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [21:49] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/bagira expired. [21:49] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:51] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.32.249.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:16] not really, that is way to vague to respond to [23:17] too* [23:17] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/rc.firewall [23:18] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:19] there are a few good iptables documents out there, and a couple of those are free as in beer. [23:19] oh, that's interesting, I guess everything is in functions? [23:23] CrYpTo1 (~CrYpTo@ip68-108-56-38.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:24] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [23:27] Hrmph [23:27] CrYpTo1 (~CrYpTo@ip68-108-56-38.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:28] I configured alsa with alsaconf, raised the volume with alsamixer, when I play an mp3 with mpg123 it doesn't give any errors, yet no sound is coming out :\ [23:28] Could anyone suggest some test to see if the devices are all configured properly? [23:29] I don't think "cat /dev/random > /dev/pcm" works any more.. [23:29] did you check for "muted" controls in alsamixer? [23:29] they show as "MM" [23:29] don't use up valuable entropy like that... [23:29] if anything use /dev/urandom [23:30] danc3: They're all unmuted [23:30] Well, there's no /dev/pcm, so that plan kind of failed :D [23:30] do you have /dev/audio? [23:30] I do [23:31] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio [23:31] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-68-218-130.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Okay, "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio" produces the expected noise [23:31] hi everybody [23:31] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-99-35-84-69.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:32] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Hi [23:33] everybody doing okay ? [23:34] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-99-35-84-69.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:36] Relatively. [23:36] My sound doesn't work. [23:36] Action: evil-sponsor is surviving [23:37] rirombo: What is the soundcard/chip? [23:37] oltrebob (~oltrebob@209.162.43.209) joined ##slackware. [23:38] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:39] oltrebob (~oltrebob@209.162.43.209) left irc: Client Quit [23:39] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:39] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:40] MLanden: Intel HDA. I think it's working, just very quietly. [23:41] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:41] Well, I guess I just need to have all the channels at 100% [23:42] rirombo: ok [23:42] Action: evil-sponsor laughs maniacally [23:42] module options often are helpful with hda_intel [23:42] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@www.melug.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:42] evil-sponsor kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Chris Punches is a "poisonous person" and not allowed here. [23:44] trhodes: Good to know, will check them out. [23:44] One who willfully trespasses, and repetitively so, with the intent to harass, annoy, threaten, etcetera is stalking. [23:44] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [23:44] Thanks for the help :D [23:45] rirombo: is this a laptop ? [23:45] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:46] trhodes: Yup [23:46] a netbook, to be more specific [23:47] 20:44 ha. right. you keep fuckin' that chicken. We broke 20 users half an hour ago, and continue to grow. [23:48] gurtan (~gurol@78.183.133.41) joined ##slackware. [23:48] rirombo: what chipset does alsamixer say it is ? [23:48] (just so everyone sees the type of "friendliness" they get there) [23:49] trhodes: Realtek ALC268 [23:49] rirombo: ok [23:51] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:52] asarch (~asarch@189.188.151.53) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:52] be friendlier, rworkman [23:53] I am friendly to people who deserve it. [23:53] and many who don't [23:53] But not to me! You rickrolled me!! [23:53] gurtan (~gurol@78.183.133.41) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:53] haha [23:53] did you all hear about the way ms trashed tavis ormandy? [23:53] I did [23:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:54] got all on his case for the way in which he disclosed a bug.. [23:54] Tavis has been a bit, er, questionable though. [23:54] a group of security experts, as a show of solidarity, have formed a new group. [23:54] rirombo: so you hear sounds now, and it's just too quiet ? [23:54] they will disclose all the microsoft vulnerabilities they find... [23:54] they already disclosed one 0-day :) [23:55] (in defense of tavis) [23:56] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [23:56] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) joined ##slackware. [23:57] i don't think it is smart for msft to piss off the security/vulnerability community. given their track record with bugs, they need all the allies they can get not enemies [23:57] trhodes: Yup. I found some info on modprobe options, and am going to reboot now with "options snd-intel-hda model=dell" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [23:58] rirombo: ok, hope that helps :) [23:58] mancha: You're thinking about it all wrong: there are no bugs in Windows. [23:58] trhodes: Me too :) [23:58] auro (~auro@unaffiliated/auro) left irc: Quit: good night [23:58] rirombo, only "features" ? [23:58] Haxor (~alucard@189.229.35.55) joined ##slackware. [23:58] rirombo: lol....only PEKAB's? [23:59] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:59] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Exactly! :) [23:59] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: BRB [23:59] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:59] hi all,how i can active the 3d acceleration in slackware 13, i installed the driver for mi ati m hd 3200 [23:59] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: bye [00:00] --- Thu Jul 8 2010