[00:00] Urchlay: A better bullseye. I replaced the loader name in the Wingz binary, and it runs without all that mucking around as root. [00:00] guess what the bartender says to them? [00:00] none of your business [00:00] tangibledaydream, no checks and bargaining to the jew [00:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host184-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] heh none of your business [00:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host111-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:01] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [00:03] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [00:03] hey, has anyone in here had trouble with the nVidia drivers freezing X? [00:03] i haven't used it much.. so no [00:03] caoliver: ehh? replace the .1 with .2? [00:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:04] i hadn't wanted to but i couldn't get a dual screen config going any other way [00:05] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) left irc: "Leaving" [00:05] i'm new to X really [00:05] caoliver: I tried that and got naught but a segfault [00:05] yeah, real dual screen does require the native drivers [00:05] Or, a chip > 8xxx [00:06] maddslacker: yeah, but the nvidia drivers seem to be riddled with problems [00:06] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [00:06] are ATI any better? [00:06] rob0, stop following me [00:06] I have dual using nv on a GeForce 8500 GT [00:06] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [00:06] (using nv) [00:06] rob0: really? did you have to hand-hack xorg.conf? [00:06] tangibledaydream, try xorgsetup [00:07] it's sexual [00:07] A little, it wasn't real bad [00:07] tangibledaydream, ati are MUCH worse [00:07] I've used both [00:07] hmm [00:07] rob0: did you follow a HOWTO, or just kinda go it alone? [00:07] I specified which monitor was on which head, but now that both are 1680x1050, I'm not sure if that matters [00:07] alone :) [00:07] Urchlay: No. Bring up the Wingz binary in emacs hexl-mode, and change the name of the loader there. I used ./..ancient-loader which has exactly the same number of bytes as /lib/ld-linux.so.1. [00:08] but I googled too [00:08] my attempts at handhacking with nv hit a wall when there seemed to be a problem using two different resolution and refresh rate monitors [00:08] you can have my config if you think it might help [00:08] There is supposed to be something called elfpatch whcih is supposed to do this better, but it didn't seem to work on the old binaries. [00:08] it can be done, but it's tricky at best [00:08] my wingz binary has "/lib/ld-linux.so.1" in it already [00:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:09] ohhh, wait, I just re-read what you said [00:09] Right. I changed it to ./..ancient-loader, then made a link from that to my intended loader. [00:09] Then the rest was done via LD_LIBRARY_PATH. [00:09] ./..ancient-loader is a script that sets up the environment [00:09] (or something) [00:10] No. It's a llink to the dynamic loader. [00:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Are there any examples of hash collisions? [00:10] s/llink/link/ [00:10] this is pathetic. i'm going to switch my victim box back to slack [00:10] oh, the one that isn't in /lib, gotcha [00:10] i should have known not to stray [00:10] Yep. [00:11] but Xubuntu lured me in with the promise of running well on old hardware [00:11] ah [00:11] bah [00:11] nice hack, sir [00:11] victim box? [00:12] i do security stuff [00:12] I wrote a relocating bin editor back in my Amiga days, so I know it can be done, but there doesn't seem to be anything good out there for this. There's elfpatch and elfsh both of which seem broken here, and something for Solaris which would need mucho patching I'd guess. [00:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-72.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:12] lol [00:12] orly [00:12] its kinda my box that i practice stuff on [00:12] antiwire: you got an ORiNOCO card? [00:12] acidchild: atheros, rtl8187 and intel [00:12] slackware-current's generic smp kernel is pentium-pro in the config, not 486, fwiw [00:13] Depending on the attempted crack, I'd tend to do that sort of thing on a VM. [00:13] acidchild: I use the rtl8187 only because it's USB and supports injection [00:13] aka: easy [00:13] antiwire: any suggestions for orinoco cards? [00:13] Cheap to set 'em up and tear 'em down. [00:13] seem to be using ath5k [00:13] acidchild: not really, I stick to atheros for anything related to this [00:13] acidchild: yeah [00:13] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:13] oda (n=oda@c9516f78.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] but there is also orinoco_cs [00:13] and just 'orinoco' [00:14] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [00:14] iirc one is for PCI and the other is for cardslot [00:14] mines PCI [00:14] brb lemme see >.< [00:14] Urchlay: it's just that those umpteen steps as root getting the chroot jail to work rubbed me the wrong way. It's a app after all. [00:15] tangibledaydream: http://pastebin.ca/1450340 [00:17] antiwire: mmmm orinoco_pci doesn't load anything ifconfig -a wise :/ [00:17] rob0: thnx [00:17] acidchild: hrmm...I don't know much about the orinoco cards [00:18] lbd519 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [00:19] i'm building them from source :-) [00:20] kernel compile is going to be so slow :-( [00:20] Action: acidchild sets up discc [00:22] caoliver: Which model of the Amiga did you have? [00:23] clavius (i=James@97.sub-70-195-215.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] antiwire: seems to be an atheros driver. [00:28] chipset* [00:28] fsb313 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] Nick change: fsb313 -> mmp794 [00:30] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:31] the new kde needs to put some logic in their dialog boxes so that they understand "hey, maybe the user doesn't appreciate dialog boxes that extend wider than their monitor can display" 8-S [00:32] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [00:33] a work around is alt+click [00:35] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [00:38] caoliver: you ought to write up a "Crufty-Old-Apps-HOWTO" (if nothing else you seem to be an above-average writer) [00:39] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [00:39] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:41] heh i forgot when brita filters should be changed. anyone know off-hand? [00:42] 1 per month [00:42] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:42] i thought it was two or three... [00:42] heh, when my fridge tells me too [00:42] when you start noticing symptoms of lead poisoning or whatever it is you're supposed to be filtering out? [00:42] I have a built-in [00:42] hahaha [00:42] that water tasting bad,antler? [00:42] just drink the tap water like a real man [00:42] antler, once a month i believe [00:42] brita sucks [00:42] MLanden: it's 2 weeks old [00:43] granted tap water never hurt me [00:43] MLanden: water tastes good still [00:43] now i'm thirsty...brb [00:43] i pee in a cup every morning and the water is ready to drink at 3 [00:43] TwinReverb: i think in n.america tap water is generally ok [00:43] hrm zoneedit isn't too bad [00:43] whatever kind of filter was at my old place, we'd change it when it got to where only a trickle of water came out of it [00:44] (which was probably too long to wait) [00:44] Action: jeev wants to plow samantha brown [00:45] Urchlay: heh filter's too full when that happens, i think [00:45] one of the grocery stores i my town bottles the tap water and sells it in another state as "Spring water" [00:46] http://blog.jamendo.com/2009/03/23/three-strikes-vs-more-strikes/ [00:46] we just switched to the filter system. recently read bad things about bottled water [00:46] that is truly awsome [00:46] How often do I need to change Brita® Pitcher Filters? Brita® Pitchers/Dispensers should be replaced every 40 gallons (about every two months for the average family). [00:46] our water here is ok, and i reset the filter notification in the fridge one time then change it, cuz the watter comes out too slow [00:46] antiwire: oh, that sounds more like it. and i looked on their site, too. :P [00:47] http://www.brita.com/us/support/faq/pitcher-faq/ [00:47] Action: maddslacker takes a sip from a glass just filled from the PUR filter built in to the fridge [00:47] antiwire: oh jesus i was on the uk site [00:47] "Ze water sparkles from all ze fish scales!" [00:48] my drink happens to be comprised wholly from the dew that comes off of mountains [00:48] oddly, its yellow [00:48] tangibledaydream: so, it's yak piss? [00:48] heh [00:48] there's a kung fu panda joke in there somewhere [00:48] if it is, then i need to buy a yak [00:48] (used to have a GF who called Mt. Dew "Yak's Piss") [00:49] we call budweiser "squirrel piss" [00:49] i have some cadbury spread for you toastytoast [00:49] kinky? [00:49] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.223) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:50] my dad's got a cartoon on the wall in his workshop, shows a horse chugging from a giant barrel marked "bud", pissing into a vat marked "miller" [00:50] omg there's mercury in tap water *gulp* [00:51] hosl (n=BLACK@189-30-185-72.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:51] (to me they both taste like making love in a canoe...) [00:51] mercury in yer bloodstreamhelps you tell the temperature better [00:51] heh, how is Coors light like sex on the beach? [00:51] uhhh [00:51] "They're both fsking near water" [00:52] fscking [00:52] i think this year i'm going to start making wine [00:52] *close to* water [00:52] nix_chix0r: my friends and i brewed our own beer [00:52] it was full of win [00:52] (sorry, that's how Monty Python tells it, maybe it works just as well the other way) [00:52] i was out by the coors brewery earlier this week [00:52] so they call pruno wine these days huh? [00:53] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:54] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [00:54] well a co worker is going to bring me a bottle of rasberry wine [00:54] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:55] makes me want to do it. my neighbor makes it too [00:56] dandelion wine ftw [00:56] mead [00:56] who keeps lettin' these bloody Vikings in here? [00:56] my brother got sick on dandelion haha [00:56] he chugged a whole bottle [00:57] http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Dandelion-Wine [00:57] tangibledaydream: I actually found a bar not too far from here that serves mead [00:57] but I don't think it's the authentic article [00:57] there's a vineyard called Linganore that makes the best mead i've ever had [00:57] (either it's bogus, or the Vikings were some seriously lightweight drunks) [00:57] mm [00:57] it is straight honey mead [00:58] not grape wine with honey [00:58] yumy [00:58] the only other mead I've had was made by this girl who went to the renaissance fest every year, I have no idea if that's what it's supposed to taste like [00:59] Urchlay: at times you sound really funny :) [00:59] i got my first taste at a festival as well [01:00] init[1]: eh? when I'm trying to make jokes, I hope... [01:00] would have to say mead is an acquired taste [01:01] runlevel_3 (n=jake@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] MLanden: most alcohol is, i find [01:01] except some sweet red wines [01:01] and f'ing zinfandel [01:01] which chemically reacts with the X chromosome [01:02] making all women like it [01:02] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] clavius2 (i=James@236.sub-70-194-106.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] runlevel_3 (n=jake@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Beer run!"). [01:06] I dunno, I expect mead to taste like motor oil mixed with rotgut bourbon... explains why the vikings went raiding all the time, get something better to drink [01:08] Action: andarius thinks they just wanted to sample all they could... for free :) [01:08] and not just booze [01:08] wine, women AND song [01:09] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:09] axius (n=tty@92.84.0.165) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Urchlay: i wouldn't know. my ancestors were the ones that were content enough with their land to not bother raiding [01:10] "Och, we'll wait here fer ye lads..." [01:11] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:11] ...in our skirts... [01:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [01:12] ITS NO A SKIRT!!! [01:12] ES A KILT!!! [01:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [01:13] yeah, that's what the little girls at the private schools call them too :D [01:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:14] everybody's ancestors were cross-dressers [01:14] think about it [01:14] anyone of french or british heritige have ancestors that wore tights [01:14] yeah, witht eh codpiece too [01:14] *the [01:14] american indian...makeup [01:14] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:15] you just hit all 3 of mine [01:15] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.155) joined ##slackware. [01:15] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "so many hot chicks, so many bitches... thins the group out to so few choices :(" [01:15] jews -> robes and table runners [01:16] jj_tomson (n=gts@189-041-58-064.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [01:16] tis called a kilt, cause the last man as called it a skirt, got kilt [01:17] Urchlay: lol [01:17] gotta remember that one [01:17] you've heard the one about the scotsman who passed out drunk in a field? [01:17] "Well I don't know where ye've been boy, but I see ye've won first prize" [01:17] yep [01:18] (there's a song about that, the local country radio station used to play it as the intro to their morning show or something I think) [01:19] if all country music was like that I might listen to it :) [01:19] clavius (i=James@97.sub-70-195-215.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:19] that wouldn't help [01:19] tooly (n=theo@e178148193.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [01:19] my wife listens to that stuff [01:19] ever known a wiccan who likes country music? [01:19] I've been sitting in on bass in a band that plays country and oldies rock [01:20] heh. Now that you mention it, no [01:20] its odd [01:20] it makes a certain amount of sense, the country image is supposed to be "close to the land" [01:20] i'm like: "You know if you met Toby Keith he'd want to burn you at the stake, right?" [01:21] maddslacker (n=corey@c-24-9-181-130.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:21] axius (n=tty@92.84.0.165) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:21] (pause while everyone goes "who the hell is toby keith" and looks it up on wikipedia...) [01:23] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "meh" [01:26] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.24.218) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:27] what is up with the new kmail? kgpg just generated a key for me, i deleted all old ones, the new one is fine, my identity in kmail is set up to use it, but when i click sign and send the email, it never asks for a password, just says that it failed to sign [01:27] privs on the key files? [01:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [01:29] nope, it just says bad passphrase and when i click audit log it says no audit log available [01:29] key files are rwx for owner (me) [01:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:30] this is slackware-current [01:33] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:35] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:37] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [01:38] _daniel- (n=knoppix@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:41] Action: nix_chix0r spies on firebird619 [01:41] <_daniel-> hey [01:41] <_daniel-> nic_chix0r wanna cybersex? [01:41] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [01:41] sure but i dont want to get a virus [01:41] lol [01:41] <_daniel-> you wont, lets try it anyway [01:43] "try"? [01:43] "Do or do not. There is no try." [01:43] i'm kinda pooped anyway [01:43] i already had my secks [01:44] gm145 (n=gm145@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Quitting!" [01:44] eyeing the sub in the fridge [01:44] Action: firebird619 spies back on nix_chix0r [01:44] nix_chix0r: thanks babe, keeps getting better every time [01:44] the submissive in the fridge was put there to teach her a lesson, don't let her out yet [01:44] doh [01:44] saturday night in slackville sure is depraved [01:45] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.90.233) joined ##slackware. [01:45] if we ever did half the stuff we sit around and yap about, most of us would be in prison... [01:45] nix_chix0r: how's your night going? [01:45] better now:) [01:45] he threw a load of clothes in the washer. [01:46] does he do that often? [01:46] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:46] thumbs (n=avenger@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [01:47] <_daniel-> heh [01:48] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:48] <_daniel-> i probably should be on death row [01:48] <_daniel-> for some of the stuff i did [01:49] Action: firebird619 locks _daniel- up in solitary confinement. :D [01:49] <_daniel-> o0o0h [01:49] <_daniel-> thats kinky [01:50] being in prison is kinky? [01:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:50] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [01:51] Action: jeev wants to see a good movie [01:52] <_daniel-> you want to see a m00vie? [01:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [01:54] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.149.119.227) joined ##slackware. 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[02:10] glad i got the grass cut now because with all the rain we've been having and not being able to mow it'd be like 3feet tall [02:10] you wouldn't be able to see me [02:10] haha [02:11] 3 feet and couldn't see you, are you a midget? :P [02:11] kinda:O [02:11] axius (n=tty@92.84.0.165) joined ##slackware. [02:11] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [02:12] well no i'm 5'2" [02:12] lol [02:12] i exaggerate [02:12] yes a m00vie [02:12] i want to see [02:14] nix_chix0r: won't be long and the baby will be taller than you. :P [02:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:15] i'm thinking he's going to be at least 6ft [02:15] just judging on how tall he is now [02:15] tower over me for sure [02:15] wow, how tall is your hubby? [02:15] 5'10" but my family is really tall [02:16] i'm the runt [02:16] usually skips a generation [02:16] lol, my family is short, as am I. [02:16] my brother is 6'2" it's so hard finding jeans because he has a 37inch inseam [02:16] 5'10", yeah the baby probably will be quite tall as he gets older. [02:16] and a 29inch waist lol [02:17] haha [02:17] any chance i get really i look around for deals on dickies or stuff at old navy for him [02:17] they move back to the us jan of 2010 [02:17] oh boy! [02:18] that's not that far away when you think about it. It's already June. [02:18] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [02:19] yeah i was going to visit for christmas and then she goes well yeah i want you here but i can't sort my vaction till january and then she told me thats when they move [02:19] so i may wait till they get settled [02:19] the baby will be almost a year at that point and they've only seen him when he was born seting asside the million pictures i take [02:19] i really want to get a webcam going [02:20] _daniel- (n=knoppix@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:21] i'm gona eat my sub and chill some more i may be back [02:21] k, see ya. :) [02:22] http://esa21.kennesaw.edu/activities/nukeenergy/nuke.swf [02:23] hey, that's right down the road from here [02:23] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [02:24] dude, it's like a modern flash version of the old Reactor game for Atari 800 [02:25] weee [02:25] meltdown [02:26] that must be record time :) [02:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [02:27] 1306kw "you could do better" [02:27] i'm tired [02:27] i got 3 of my new servers up [02:27] and i'm configging them [02:27] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:27] and cvsup is spissing me off [02:27] there must be a faster way [02:27] you really need to run that thing on the edge [02:27] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:27] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [02:28] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:28] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [02:28] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: "see_you_on_the_far_side" [02:28] alienBOB: the dancing bot is back [02:28] and gone... [02:28] antiwire: what is dancing bot? [02:28] I don't even get what that damn thing's purpose could possibly be [02:29] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:29] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [02:29] Urchlay: what is that bot about [02:29] hehe [02:29] dancing bot [02:29] init[1]: how the hell do I know? I just wish it'd die already [02:30] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:30] akber (i=buffer@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [02:30] lol [02:31] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:32] http://www.shellium.org/wiki/index.php5?title=Vhosts [02:33] man, that stuff was lame 10 years ago. Now it's old, tired, and still lame [02:36] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:36] antiwire: did dancing bot create any problem before [02:37] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [02:38] it's a person with a vhost and they seem to have connection issues [02:38] maybe a bot [02:38] who knows for sure [02:38] would be OK if it was a person who had ever actually said anything, so we knew he was real [02:38] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [02:44] hd (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:44] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.17) joined ##slackware. [02:46] hi all [02:46] i've installed quake4 and now trying to run but it exits with the error "Fatal Error: Texture compression unavailable" [02:47] glxinfo | grep -i render says [02:47] direct rendering: Yes [02:48] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 [02:48] glxinfo | grep -i compress [02:48] says [02:48] GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, [02:48] GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, [02:49] hmmm, I would have guessed GL_ARB_texture_compression was what you would be missing [02:50] my crappy little laptop with mach64, I know it doesn't support texture compression, and when I run that, I get nothing at all (as expected) [02:52] bijit_ (n=benji@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [02:52] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:52] I know I've run quake4 on my "desktop" box (which glxinfo says does have texture compression), but that was probably under slamd64 10.2, been a while [02:53] (and apparently the video card is too old/slow to run quake4, even with all the settings turned down...) [02:53] X..GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc not found [02:53] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:53] that's what it says it's looking for? [02:53] yes [02:53] and glxinfo says that i don't have it [02:53] I do have that on the desktop (using nvidia proprietary driver) [02:53] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [02:55] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [02:55] 2 approaches to fixing it: (1) figure out how to get your video card a driver that supports that extension (doubtful), or (2) figure out how to make quake4 work without it (if possible. I've no idea...) [02:57] for the first, you want an expert on the intel driver stuff in the latest bleeding-edge xorg (possibly rworkman, if he were awake). For the 2nd, you need an expert on quake 4 (good luck) [02:57] http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/EXT/texture_compression_s3tc.txt [02:58] can i install opengl extensions separately? or driver must support them? [02:58] M1ck__ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:00] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [03:00] pretty sure the driver has to support them [03:01] ravis (n=ravis@adsl-71-142-76-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] I mean the card itself has to support whatever hardware is needed for the extension to work [03:02] anybody know when slack13 64-bit will be officially released? [03:02] you can't just install opengl extensions by installing software on your computer (if you could, they'd be painfully slow, because they'd be done by the host CPU instead of by the GPU) [03:02] ravis: nobody knows [03:02] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [03:03] trying to decide between going bluewhite/slamd or just waiting it out for slack64 [03:03] (not being an ass, seriously, nobody's said anything and nobody's heard anything) [03:03] so Pat will surprise us suddenly?:-) [03:03] if it helps, I've been running slack64-current since day one and I'm very happy with it [03:03] how do i do this? [03:03] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:03] unofficial slack64-current ISO? [03:04] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [03:04] probably the sanest thing to do is grab alienBOB's mirroring script and make your own iso [03:04] aahh thanks..googling now [03:04] bleah, I thought I had in my IRC client's URL cache, apparently not [03:05] ah, here: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [03:06] found it..beautiful..this is why i keep comin' back to momma... [03:06] or this was in dw weekly ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/slackware64-current-02_Jun_2009-DVD.iso [03:06] M1ck___ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:06] holy crap! thanks Rat409 [03:06] sure [03:07] Rat409: I heard at least one person in here saying those slackware.no isos had some problems... though I dunno what the problems were supposed to ber [03:07] s/r$// [03:07] me either but i grabbed it and booted it up was fine,haven't done the install tho [03:08] hmmm [03:08] i'll fire it up in a spare vbox instance first and check [03:08] rwokman said he did in-place upgrade but didn't advise it for everyone [03:08] that's because rworkman knows wtf he's doing too [03:08] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:09] indeed [03:09] I did my install the semi-hard way, not an in-place upgrade, I used installpkg --root /mnt/new to install all the packages on an empty partition I had left over from days gone by [03:10] can anybody tell me if some sort of java made it into -current [03:11] I also don't recommend that for everyone (not even for me if my DVD drive hadn't got where it can't burn DVDs any more) [03:11] yes [03:11] hate programming in it..but it puts food on the table right now [03:11] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [03:11] java has been there for a while [03:11] the jre's installed as a standard package. If you need the jdk, it's in extra/ [03:12] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/extra/jdk-6/ [03:12] hi [03:12] that's 12.2 [03:12] (I haven't bothered to check whether you can install them both or if they're mutually exclusive) [03:12] same location place for -current too (just in the current tree) [03:12] yeah..the jdk has the runtime inside it [03:13] right, so I dunno whether you can install both the jre and jdk slackware packages (no need to, even if you can) [03:13] bijit_ (n=benji@190.241.15.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] I have installed both in the past on current with no issues [03:13] concur [03:14] the iso size is just 1.6G...not as big as the 32-bit release? [03:14] that iso may not have the sources [03:14] limited 64-bit pkgs only i guess [03:14] oic [03:14] wait now what? [03:14] the 64 bit -current is a different tree than the normal 32bit current [03:15] eh, well, damn near all the 32-bit packages come in 64-bit flavor (some of the exta/kde3-compat stuff is missing from 64-bit, for whatever reason) [03:15] well i gotta crash,be well ya'll. [03:15] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:15] later Rat409 [03:15] g/night rat409 [03:15] ravis: I see, you've been talking about the 64bit version the whole time. [03:16] thanks for all the fish [03:16] ...famous last words :) [03:16] well i have a 8G desktop and a 4G laptop [03:17] need to run VM's and IBM crapware [03:17] M1ck__ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] Nick change: M1ck___ -> M1ck_ [03:19] quit [03:19] ravis (n=ravis@adsl-71-142-76-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:36] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:43] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[04:03] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:03] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.149.119.227) left irc: "Saliendo" [04:04] joe__ (n=joe@c-24-7-31-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] can anyone recommend a good program for dvd creation, not writing dvd's but authoring them, I know there is dvdauthor, but I was hoping for something with a frontend [04:10] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Qdvdauthor? http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net/ [04:10] echo YOYO! [04:11] devede? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/devede/ [04:11] echo Hello pri4pus [04:11] :-) [04:11] firebird619: How are you? [04:12] great, thank you. yourself? [04:12] the version of devede in the repository isnt in sync with current code and the new code needs gtk+ 2.16 or greater, but slackware64 had problems with those [04:12] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [04:12] firebird619: "Buckle your seat belt, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye-bye!" :-) [04:12] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [04:13] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [04:13] berke: Ah, you're on slack64. I'm not sure then, those were the ones that came to mind. [04:13] Action: firebird619 buckles seat belt. [04:14] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.148) joined ##slackware. [04:14] :-) [04:15] FreonTrip (n=FreonTri@75-16-178-113.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229121073.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:16] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [04:17] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [04:17] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [04:19] FreonTrip (n=FreonTri@75-16-178-113.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:19] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:22] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229121073.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Is cracking considered an antisocial behavior? [04:23] hi :) [04:23] nvision_ (n=nvision@g229121073.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:23] hi [04:23] Hey Camarade_Tux [04:24] Camarade_Tux: yes, I know I need to get going; it's 03:24. :P [04:24] YOYO Camarade_Tux! [04:25] hi firebird619, hi pri4pus, how is it going ? =) [04:26] firebird619, I see your clock is correct today ;p [04:26] Camarade_Tux: yup, sure is. :) [04:26] it's going great, thanks. [04:26] you? [04:26] "head up the ass" but ok otherwise ;p [04:27] wow, you must be flexible. :P [04:28] joe__ (n=joe@c-24-7-31-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:28] Anyways, gotta get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take care. [04:29] http://fa.img.v4.skyrock.net/faf/boso62/pics/616719887.jpg =) [04:29] See ya Camarade_Tux [04:29] hey, see you firebird619 :) [04:29] hahaha, nice link. [04:29] later. :) [04:29] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:30] Action: Shingoshi says Wow! 114 packages to upgrade! 588>1486MBs... [04:31] tovid is gruesome in its dependencies [04:32] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:32] haha, with xinput2, you can have several windows focused at the same time ;p [04:36] hey turds [04:36] what do you think is more special [04:36] givigin your mother a gift on mothers day or giving your mother a gift on a random day, one which she wont be expecting it.. and telling her how thankful and all that other mumbo jumbo [04:36] ? [04:37] 588MBs downloaded in 6 minutes! cool... [04:37] heh [04:37] i got 3.8 gigs in 6 minutes [04:37] jeev, one on mothers day and one on a random day :D [04:38] bah [04:38] one or the other you turd [04:41] I noticed that in the changelog : "Patched makepkg to warn about possible problems with /usr/share/info usage", what would be the problems ? [04:42] apparently there were /usr/share/info usage problems. [04:45] dunno - do a diff on makepkg [04:45] could be if there was a 'dir' file which shouldn' be there [04:46] since the 'dir' would contain only a directory of the info packages in the package, which'd overwrite the one installed on the system, if it was kept in the package [04:48] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:55] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [04:56] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [04:59] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:59] Upgrade completed. [05:02] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:06] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:09] See you later alligators! [05:10] alligators ? where ? aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! [05:10] Action: Camarade_Tux tasted crunchy [05:10] :-) [05:10] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [05:14] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:15] smica (n=smica@h129-138.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [05:22] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [05:22] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [05:26] axius (n=tty@92.84.0.165) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [05:27] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:39] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:49] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:50] nvision (n=nvision@g229121073.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:54] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:59] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-164-198.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [05:59] I think that seamonkey still feels faster than firefox 3.5b4 [05:59] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) joined ##slackware. [06:07] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:13] I don't think firefox will ever feel fast ;) [06:13] no matter what people may say, I find internet explorer to be faster than ff [06:16] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [06:18] firefox is ok here [06:19] I find firefox dumb, slow, annoying, broken [06:19] is stable enough for me [06:20] I don't even try reporting bugs, problems or inconsistencies. I find so many of them, and so big ones, that I can't believe they haven't already been reported for such an old program [06:20] it consumes a lot of mem [06:21] if you close firefox with several tabs opened, it can ask you if you want to have them save EXCEPT if you have another window opened (like prefs, the source for a webpage, the download list, another window [think pop-up]...), it will only ask you if you want to quit (and it will quit everything), it won't ask you to save your tabs [06:22] and then I don't find it has anything special or different : it is the simplest browser available and since the rendering engine is nearly unusable outside of firefox, it makes the whole thing useless [06:24] u use the option "show windows and tabs from last time" ? [06:25] dunno how it's called but I use that because I sometimes open pages and don't have the time to read them before I have to close firefox [06:26] i use that option [06:26] and it never failed [06:26] and it wont ask to save , it just saves it [06:26] I prefer it asks [06:30] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.17) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:32] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-124-151-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434428.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:45] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-72.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [06:48] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:51] smica (n=smica@h129-138.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.248.250) joined ##slackware. [07:00] Candyyy (i=Black-De@41.236.13.136) joined ##slackware. [07:02] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.248.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:13] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:21] so di I [07:21] do [07:22] i was wondering why ff didn't ask me to save tabs last time i closed it! i had the download window open! now I know. [07:27] hehe, last time I did that and clicked "close", I had about 20 tabs I wanted to keep >< [07:27] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:28] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-208-111-228-127-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left ##slackware. 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[08:06] Pig_Pen, hmmm, no image [08:07] it is an animated gif [08:07] owned indeed [08:07] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host160-174-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:07] Pig_Pen, oh, on the left [08:07] altho it is a cheap shot [08:07] hmmm, I'm pondering re-enabling image animations in firefox :D [08:08] Pig_Pen, lol ;p [08:10] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [08:11] hail^ (n=hail@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:12] hi, running slackware64-current, and recently wanted to upgrade everything using slackpkg, but there are no mirrors for slackware64-current in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, is this normal? 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[09:50] 100th level of frozenbubble >< [09:51] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) left irc: Client Quit [09:53] Action: antler pops Camarade_Tux 's bubble [09:55] antler, bah, you made the game crash >< [09:55] (actually I thought it was enough for today ;) ) [09:55] hahah [09:56] maybe I should shower :D [09:57] I mean, it's 4pm, it may be time to dress [09:57] Camarade_Tux: whatever,. What you gonna do once dressed ? heh it's sunday! [09:58] appzer0, turn my computer off, walk 10 meters, ring, turn my computer on and play :D [09:58] french shower <---- inherently contradictory :P [09:59] antler, yeah, we prefer bathing 8-) [09:59] lol [09:59] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: "changing servers" [10:00] antler: are frenchies reputed being lazy with showers? [10:02] Camarade_Tux: which game do you usually play? [10:02] appzer0: no, they have a reputation of being lazy when it comes to personal hygiene :D [10:03] oh I see. Strange reputation. In fact we frenchies are worse than that. [10:04] hahah well, you know, such is the nature of rumours [10:04] antler, I won't let you say we're lazy when it comes to personal hygiene : I last shaved less than 3 weeks ago ! [10:04] lol [10:05] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-72.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:05] when i had 10 days off at easter last year, i didn't shower or shave [10:06] appzer0, currently, red alert (well, we started less than two weeks ago), CS, UT (mostly 2004), tried Red Alert 3 but didn't really enjoy it, warcraft3, waiting for starcraft2 ;) [10:06] quake3 too [10:06] antler, maybe you have french roots :p [10:07] oui, vive la France! [10:07] vive la vin! [10:08] viva la showers with la france ;) [10:08] yeah, we're the most beloved nation ^^ [10:08] la big mac? royale with cheese? [10:09] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders why english-speaking people always use "la", no matter if the word is not feminine [10:10] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [10:10] Camarade_Tux: usa ppl are foreign language deprived [10:10] because we canadians are la ignant! [10:10] hmm vin iis?? [10:10] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-72.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [10:10] antler, /me didn't get that 0_o [10:10] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.71.107) left irc: "Leaving" [10:10] hey. did you rebuild la kernel? [10:11] Camarade_Tux: people in canada, including me, don't know any better :P [10:11] otoh, why would english-people know "vin" is "masculin" [10:11] (and neutral words take the masculin form, not the feminine one) [10:12] man this is why i think french, like german, is difficult to learn [10:12] Camarade_Tux: the english language is gender agnostic, that's why [10:13] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.112) got netsplit. 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[10:13] antler: german is more difficult. ;-) [10:13] gnubien, yeah, I had forgotten ;) [10:13] BP{k}: it's closer to english; so i would've thought otherwise [10:13] Camarade_Tux: I couldn't remember, thought vin was masculine but decided to go with la. [10:14] well : le vin, la vinasse, it's hard to know [10:16] Camarade_Tux: i mostly play UT99 (coz it rox©) [10:17] axius (n=axius@92.82.71.107) joined ##slackware. [10:17] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-72.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:17] yeah, ut99 is nice too :) [10:18] reminds me I shouldn't drink before playing any FPS >< [10:18] or while playing them :P [10:18] course you should :) [10:18] Camarade_Tux: is it true that the french call a 'quater pounder with cheese' 'royale with cheese'? [10:19] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] dngr (n=dngr@n112118130110.netvigator.com) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] RJz0r_ (n=taterz@c-76-18-30-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] zounds (n=zounds@81-234-214-184-no68.tbcn.telia.com) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.112) got lost in the net-split. [10:19] quarter [10:19] BP{k}, it doesn't really help ;) [10:19] antler, what's 'pounder' ? [10:19] Camarade_Tux: one quarter pound hamburger with cheese [10:20] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [10:20] antler, there are commercial namings but that's it [10:20] "id pounder" what one guy says to another when they are watching some pretty women walk by, its a compliment :D [10:21] axius (n=axius@92.82.71.107) left irc: Client Quit [10:21] Camarade_Tux: depends what your goal is ;) [10:22] BP{k}, hehe :p [10:22] axius (n=root@92.82.71.107) joined ##slackware. [10:22] and one reason to play ut2004 is that the bots are quite good [10:22] so they can make teammates or ennemies [10:23] I mean "decent" ones [10:25] axius (n=root@92.82.71.107) left irc: Client Quit [10:25] BP{k}: you're from the netherlands, yah? [10:27] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:34] yay :S [10:34] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.82.56) joined ##slackware. [10:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] antler: as they say in Pulp Fiction, quarter pounder with cheese is in France a 'Royal Cheese'. I dont know how is called in US the french 'Big Mac' [10:35] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9f87.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [10:35] hello [10:37] Action: Camarade_Tux never heard "Royal Cheese" [10:37] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:37] Camarade_Tux: really [10:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [10:38] appzer0: 'le big mac' --vincent [10:38] kipp (n=no@c-69-249-79-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] antler, he just quit ;p [10:38] and maybe if you add "burger" at the end [10:39] amburger! [10:39] te_ (n=te@adsl-68-94-198-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] dngr (n=dngr@n112118130110.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [10:39] how can I get tcpdump to write to file? [10:39] kipp (n=no@c-69-249-79-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:39] kipp (n=no@c-69-249-79-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:40] hello all... im having serious trouble building Gnumeric without gnome.. polkit-dbus package not found when installing gconf [10:40] any tips? [10:41] check slackbuilds.org [10:41] Oklahoma State Penitentiary is in a city named McAlister, everyone calls it Big Mac [10:41] i have to no avail [10:41] switch to sc [10:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-26-64.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:42] the gnumeric slackbuild readme files claims gconf is needed [10:42] or use openoffice for spreadsheets [10:43] kipp, last time I tried, gconf built properly with sbo's slackbuild [10:43] kk, ill look at the slackbuild [10:43] i do agree, i hate all those gtk apps that have too much of a depenence on gnome [10:44] xiws (n=xiws13@220.166.153.101) joined ##slackware. [10:44] OpenOffice did not cross my mind, i may have to try it [10:44] NukeDukem++ [10:44] go-oo might be nice to try [10:46] the gconf.slackbuild also fails looking for polkit-dbus [10:46] and policykit source requires PAM [10:48] Action: Camarade_Tux gonna try [10:48] kipp: try --with-authfw=shadow in configure for policykit [10:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:49] tooly: kk [10:50] polkit-dbus.h:35:23: error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory [10:50] http://pastie.org/503593 [10:51] kipp, is dbus-glib installed ? [10:51] which is almost identical to the error i get when building gconf without default services (dbus) [10:51] and gconf is building ok for me [10:51] yes [10:51] well, gconf *did* build ok [10:52] hmm [10:52] I just made orbit2 and gconf built directly [10:52] orbit2 did build correctly for me [10:53] which version of gconf did you install Camarade_Tux? [10:53] *build [10:54] I used the most recent 2.26.2 .. will try 2.26.0 [10:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] kipp, I just took the slackbuidm [10:55] *slackbuild [10:55] and with g* apps, it's ALWAYS better to stick with the slackbuilds, other versions may be nightmare [10:55] s [10:57] i know better, but... [10:57] gconf-internals.c:39:23: error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory [10:57] is with 2.26.0, which is the SBs version [10:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] did the Spinx cut its own nose of to spite his face? should the Egyptians repair it? [11:02] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9f87.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware. [11:05] kipp, run : find /var/log/packages/ -iname "*dbus-glib* [11:06] /var/log/packages/dbus-glib-0.78-i486-1 [11:07] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:07] kipp, and : pkg-config --cflags dbus-glib-1 [11:07] ? [11:08] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [11:08] -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include [11:09] That dbus.h header is in the dbus package, not dbus-glib [11:09] how are you doin robby? [11:10] Just looking in; I'm out of town for the weekend :/ [11:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] te_ (n=te@adsl-68-94-198-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:11] i see. [11:11] nathal2 (n=nathal@212.202.200.39) joined ##slackware. [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Action: rworkman is in Meridian, MS after attending my cousin's wedding. Painfully slow dialup net here at the parents' [11:14] is dbus.h supposed to be in /usr/include ? [11:14] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [11:15] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.123.235) joined ##slackware. [11:16] no [11:16] /var/log/packages/dbus-1.2.14-x86_64-1_rlw:usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h [11:16] Note the error: [11:17] 14:57 < kipp> gconf-internals.c:39:23: error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory [11:17] and then the -I flags: [11:17] -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 [11:17] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.210.158) joined ##slackware. [11:17] nathal2 (n=nathal@212.202.200.39) left irc: "Leaving" [11:18] Therefore, -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 plus 'dbus/dbus.h' yields: /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h [11:18] Conclusion: dbus package is not installed, or it needs to be reinstalled. [11:19] ok, then i think i need to reinstall the dbus pkg, when i rebuilt this kernel i used the make headers_install which i may have over written / removed the file [11:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:19] nope [11:19] but you should never do that, for other reasons. [11:20] even if going from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29.1 ? [11:20] even then [11:20] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/compiling-a-new-kernel-579618/?postcount=11#post2872221 [11:20] ok, i was under the impression since when Pat releases kernel versions he updates the headers that i should do the same [11:21] Read my LQ post above :) [11:21] kk [11:21] Summary: only distro developers should be updating the kernel headers installed in /usr/include [11:22] Unless you plan to recompile libc against the newer headers, and honestly, there's no reason for you do that outside of "I'm just playing around and don't care if I break stuff" [11:22] (because a purely academic exercise is useful, if only for academic reasons) :) [11:23] that makes sense.. should i 'cd /usr/include && rm *' then reinstall the original kernel-headers for 12.2? (i think its 2.6.27.7) [11:24] just reinstall the originals; no need for rm'ing [11:24] kk [11:26] http://vodpod.com/watch/311842-rednex-cotton-eye-joe [11:27] should I really reenable flash ? [11:27] Action: TwinReverb realizes too soon that his backups aren't using --delete option in rsync 8-S [11:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] ok.. progress on the GConf builds by reinstalling dbus package, thanks for the heads up on the headers package robby [11:28] time to have fun with "find duplicate files" [11:29] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Action: Camarade_Tux stabs Dominian and unpauses Damage Plan [11:30] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] hehe [11:30] Camarade_Tux: I love that video [11:30] I *KNEW* there was a reason I kept flash disabled ! [11:30] heeh [11:31] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [11:36] anyone happen to know what the firewire module is called off hand? [11:37] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:37] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:37] has 1394 in its name iirc [11:38] so, modprobe --list |grep 1394 [11:38] yeah find /lib/modules/ -name "*1394*" [11:38] duh of course that makes sense... dv1395 and raw1394 [11:39] TwinReverb, mine's better ! [11:39] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.102.51) joined ##slackware. [11:39] which one goes to 11? [11:39] mine's even childisher: lsmod [11:40] lsmod that only works if it's loaded ;p [11:40] mine's better d'abord ! [11:40] [11:40] even if you were seriously being childish, it's ok, 99% of the adults i meet are childish, including myself at times [11:41] hmm i wonder what someone would pay for my old laptop (specs -> http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/toshiba/toshiba.html) [11:42] i'll give you Ł20 [11:42] ? [11:42] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.2.100) joined ##slackware. [11:43] 30 here [11:43] check my feedback [11:43] A++ [11:44] nathal2 (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [11:44] how much u asking for it , TwinReverb ? [11:44] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Nick change: nathal2 -> nathal [11:44] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:44] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [11:46] DeeeeP_, i don't know how much to ask for it [11:47] then i win , i had the highest offer :D [11:47] it's the same specs as a eee pc (sort of; better processor but slower RAM) but bigger and old [11:47] and how much is eee pc? [11:48] 1000H , 300 eur [11:48] great condition: $150 [11:49] where u from ? [11:49] an eee pc runs about $260 in the configuration i want [11:49] ebay [11:49] oh where am *I* from? United States [11:49] too far for me [11:50] as i will pay taxes for europe [11:51] not if it's posted as something less valuable [11:51] $100 would be fair [11:51] they will check [11:51] come now [11:52] grazymax (n=grazymax@host111-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] TwinReverb: post a recent pic ofit [11:53] or is there one on that site somewhere... [11:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.171) joined ##slackware. [11:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-164-198.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:54] no picture on that site [11:54] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.210.158) left irc: "leaving" [11:55] grazymax (n=grazymax@host77-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:57] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74EB3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [11:58] oda (n=oda@c9516f78.virtua.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] greetings [11:58] and salutations [11:58] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) left ##slackware. [11:58] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:58] them too, aye [11:59] oda (n=oda@c9516f78.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:59] If anyone have time to test: [11:59] http://www.slackpkg.org/beta/slackpkg-2.80beta3-noarch-1.tgz [11:59] PiterPunk: Slackware64 changes? [11:59] Dominian: Yes. It now works without changes in slackware and slackware64 [12:00] hey slackytude :) [12:00] y0 Camarade_Tux [12:00] PiterPunk: I may give it a shot [12:00] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:00] I hope this to be the last beta of 2.80 [12:00] PiterPunk, nice :) [12:00] Camarade_Tux, hows it going? [12:00] slackytude, nice, and you ? [12:00] Camarade_Tux, Im starting to approach my usual paranoid state as its always the case when finals are close. all else is fine [12:01] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Camarade_Tux, less than 30 days >-< [12:01] slackytude, hehe :p [12:01] slackytude, someone on the channel wants that something bad happens to you, run ! [12:02] Camarade_Tux, O_o [12:02] Action: slackytude hides [12:02] Nick change: slackytude -> someone_else [12:02] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:03] =P [12:03] Dominian: If you want, here is the ChangeLog: http://www.slackpkg.org/beta/ChangeLog [12:03] thanks [12:04] Nick change: someone_else -> slackytude [12:04] kipp (n=no@c-69-249-79-66.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] xiws (n=xiws13@220.166.153.101) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] axius (n=tty@92.85.211.1) joined ##slackware. [12:11] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:21] hosl (n=BLACK@189-30-185-72.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "just for today" [12:22] roflmao... someone wants a lot of storage to fill their net book.. they were told to compress it to /dev/null [12:22] dont' lie, was it you ? [12:22] do you know why gzip, pkgtools, tar, xz, slackpkg are still in tgz in current ? [12:22] compatability [12:22] twernet me [12:22] Thom1: how do you expect 12.2 users to upgrade to .txz ? [12:22] thrice`, good answer [12:23] :> [12:23] Action: Dominian said the same thing in "one" word [12:23] :P [12:23] new packages are in .txz only. everyone must reinstall!11 [12:23] Dominian, "compatibility" [12:23] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.112) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:23] dios_mio: *shrugs* you knew what I meant [12:23] thrice`, :) [12:24] thrice`, so I think the release after 13.0 will be completely in txz, don't you think ? [12:24] other than those handful of packages, yes [12:25] what is this txz and what's wrong with tgz? [12:25] what is a txz? [12:25] txz uses xz which is based on lzma for compression [12:25] rtf-changelog [12:25] much better compression ratio [12:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.56) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] and as thrice` said "rtfc" [12:26] I like tgz better [12:26] tar zxvf [12:26] as long as kde is in such shitty shape im waiting... its still not ready in a few areas... the biggest being plasmas, dolphin on top of plasmas and gpg/kgpg mail integreation [12:26] 4.5 might be good [12:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:26] http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/Slackware-Package-Format-Changed.html [12:26] But the format didn't change. [12:26] ^^ provides an explanation [12:27] dios_mio: Aren't you the troll from a bout aweek ago that was bitching about anything and everything? [12:27] The default compression changed. [12:27] Dominian, no [12:27] Action: Dominian will have to check his logs [12:27] but I recognize that nick from being a PITA [12:27] tar xvf blah.t?z should be enough these days [12:27] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] Dominian, be nice.. just because I dont agree with your opinions doesnt mean you shuold label me as a troll and call me a PITA [12:28] fascist [12:28] aha.. now I remember you [12:29] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] lol [12:29] hehe [12:30] :| [12:30] pain in the ass? [12:31] yes [12:31] at least one word wtf knows [12:32] wtf is seriously outdated [12:32] do you all think with slack changnig to txz other distros will follow ... one bc of slacks history/dependability, two for compatiblitiy [12:32] VampirePenguin, nah [12:32] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] drugs and hoes! Drugs and hoes! :P [12:33] even sourgeforge ? [12:33] why would other distros change think aslackware was the only one that was usin gtgz crux used a tbz format [12:33] what the heck is sourgeforge :) [12:33] ha [12:33] lol [12:34] well most of slacks mulitmedia codecs come from sourceforge.. at least when im using sbopkg [12:34] opensuse already uses lzma compression for its rpms, and exherbo (an experimental distro, with an experimental successor of portage) uses xz afaict [12:35] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.123.235) left ##slackware. [12:35] cool Camarade_Tux [12:35] theres always so many changes its hard to keep up with them [12:35] thats what students are for [12:36] lol [12:37] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [12:39] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.161.99) joined ##slackware. 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[13:30] i'm in love with missy jane, she's my main thing. she makes me feel alright, she makes my heart sing. [13:32] ^___^ [13:34] Action: Camarade_Tux readies a netsplit so antler and missyjane can be alone [13:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] lol [13:34] hahah "mary jane" --rick james [13:34] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Greetings everyone. :) [13:35] Action: antler kicks firebird619 in the shins to signal his hello! [13:35] haha [13:35] how you doing firebird619 ? :) [13:35] doing excellent, thanks. yourself? [13:36] very good, thanks. sunny today :D [13:36] dreary/rainy here again today. [13:37] I had to stop that tarballing the hidden files/folders yesterday, it was taking forever. :P [13:37] puhahahaha [13:38] just straight copy now? :P [13:38] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-253-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:38] It wouldn't have been so long, but I mistakenly included .Virtualbox, which is a huge folder in and of itself. [13:38] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:38] When I stopped the process, the file, at that point, was 15.4 GB. :P [13:39] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] hahah [13:39] what were you tarballing? [13:39] firebird619: i always keep vbox disks on a different drive [13:39] antler: Yeah, I just copied everything, I'm in kde now with new config, new font.conf, etc. [13:39] missyjane: all the hidden files/folders in /home [13:40] It took out the theme I had set to make gtk themes nice in kde though, so things look ugly atm. [13:40] heheh "what were you teabaggin'?" [13:40] That's a whole other channel. :P [13:40] antler, you wish they were teabagging you? [13:41] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Connection timed out [13:41] YIKES [13:41] wait, thats perfectly normal [13:41] firebird619: have fun customizing for the next few days ;) [13:41] why DONT you tarball all of it? [13:41] i have about 30gb i want to backup too [13:42] all in /home [13:42] antler: haha, yeah. [13:42] antler: flux looks good still. [13:42] KDE is looking quite nice as well. [13:42] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.163.92) joined ##slackware. [13:42] fluxbox is amazing [13:42] agreed [13:42] kde is bloated but with the new version kde4, i hear they chomped down on the blaotness [13:42] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:43] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> SlackNeo [13:43] KDE4 is quite nice imo [13:43] antler: FF + slashdot, new kde config, new .mozilla, etc. http://imagebin.org/51751 [13:44] KDE ftw~! [13:45] kde ftl [13:45] lol [13:45] fluxbox ftw :X [13:45] keep the bloatness down! [13:45] missyjane.. plz.. [13:45] firebird619: hmm.... that looks amazing (to some) [13:46] Are you one of the some? :P [13:46] some - antler = no [13:46] :P [13:47] hahaha [13:47] antler: http://imagebin.org/51752 <--Opera [13:47] big_bass (n=big_bass@unaffiliated/bigbass/x-81725) joined ##slackware. [13:47] uh, there were quite a few kde updates on 64-current [13:47] hm [13:47] how do you update to them ? [13:47] firebird619: ohhh waaaay better (imo) [13:47] slackpkg tells me nothing [13:48] hm [13:48] antler: yeah, isn't it though. [13:48] maybe cause i just downloaded the changelog [13:48] i think im using slackware 12.1 right now, when do yo uguys think its worth upgrading my current slack? [13:48] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [13:49] You think? As in you don't know what your using? :P [13:49] Are you sure you're on slackware and not ubuntu? :P [13:49] cat /etc/slackware-version :) [13:49] missyjane, upgrade is difficult.. just keep it till 13.0 comes out, then you can reformat [13:49] let me check [13:49] OH NO, it's Camarade_Tux. /me runs. [13:49] I found that upgrading with slackpkg was terribly easy :) [13:49] How's it going Camarade_Tux [13:49] yup 12.1 and the reason why i said i think is cause i havent bothered in a long time [13:49] firebird619, hehe, run for your life ! :p [13:49] though dios_mio that is perfect advice!! :D [13:50] firebird619, nice, thanks, slept well ? [13:50] Camarade_Tux: I'm trying. [13:50] :P [13:50] Camarade_Tux: yes, slept well. [13:50] missyjane, thank you.. I think I deserve a kiss now :P [13:50] i wanna snuggle with Camarade_Tux, he knows everything [13:50] :O [13:50] Action: missyjane blows a kiss to dios_mio [13:50] :D [13:50] lol :D [13:50] haha [13:50] firebird619, run for your life, I told ya ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Snehl2bAk [13:50] Camarade_Tux: you got someone to snuggle with, how sweet. :P [13:51] most ppl are like this when they give me advice, "no you stupid girl, i hope you die a slow death... this is the SOLUTION" he leaves out the horrible part [13:51] bbiab [13:51] now I have to look up "snuggle" ;p [13:51] missyjane depends if you modified alot of things or not if everything works for you no rush to update [13:51] \o/ [13:51] off to work, back later [13:52] hitest, work ? :o [13:52] http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-current/ = not current [13:52] missyjane, some linux people are fundamentalists [13:52] yeah, report card typing time. I'm a school teacher [13:52] big_bass, indeed, i did modify a lot [13:52] dios_mio, thats fine, its ok to be an extremist in linux [13:52] lol [13:52] hitest, ew, shoo [13:52] lol [13:53] bye missyjane:) [13:53] hitest, haha, good luck ;) [13:53] ty [13:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:54] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A74EB3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] I am on winXp now but I have slackware on dual boot [13:54] you know what i regre? [13:55] regret? [13:55] giving more hard drive space to windows and not linux [13:55] how much for each? [13:55] i thought i was going to play a lot of games on windows, turns out i spend more time playing wow on linux than i do on wow.. subsequently i just ended up uninstalling the wow on windows [13:55] I wasnt aware there was wow on linux [13:56] yeah [13:56] its called wine [13:56] lol [13:56] heh [13:56] isnt that slower? [13:57] I installed linux on an old 6 gb harddisk [13:57] 6 or 10 or something [13:57] no [13:57] i get 60 fps fixed with directx on windows [13:58] i forget what its called but on linux i get over 100 fps [13:58] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:58] cool [13:58] ya very [13:58] I never got to play wow [13:58] how come? [13:58] well I wont buy an account [13:59] I am too cheap [13:59] lol [13:59] its.. incredibly cheap [13:59] he, 60fps is a cap, I get 60fps when playing duke nukem 3D on win7 :D [13:59] is it really good? [13:59] its very fun for me [13:59] ive been playing for 5 years [13:59] I see [13:59] takes too much time imho [14:00] I played Warsow [14:00] good for a free game... but requires skills [14:01] otherwise I dont play any games [14:01] lol nto really. if you get recruit a friend, someone to recruit you and show yo uthe way, you can get to cap leve l in less than a week or two [14:01] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [14:03] big_bass (n=big_bass@unaffiliated/bigbass/x-81725) left ##slackware. [14:04] i just wish computers werent so sensitive :( [14:05] \o/ [14:05] how is win7? [14:05] Action: Camarade_Tux finally got his project in a compilable state again =) [14:05] missyjane, why ? [14:06] because i want to do thigns to it that are considered harsh [14:06] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:06] like whipping it to make it go faster, yell at it to make it run the programs i want to, etc [14:06] generally treat it like a slave [14:06] that it really is [14:06] Channel flood from missyjane -- kicking [14:06] :) [14:06] missyjane kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:06] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:06] lol i forget about flooding -.x [14:07] dartmouth, working pretty well, support for older apps works really nicely (better than in vista and better than in XP !), it's lighter than vista, some networking parts have been improved (creating an ad-hoc is really, really easy), it's stable :) [14:07] missyjane, no, no, don't yell at computers, it makes hard disks slower :p [14:08] missyjane: you sound like a bad girl, i bet you wear leather and keep a horse whip in your bedroom :D [14:09] lol [14:09] lol [14:09] hm.. life feels so short.. [14:09] i have all these books and stuff i want to read [14:10] :( [14:10] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [14:10] you almost did it again [14:10] o.o [14:10] screw slackboy [14:12] NukeDukem: She's a rebel against slackboy's authority. :P [14:12] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [14:12] She could care less. :P [14:12] yup, shes a bad girl [14:13] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-65-38.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:17] ok [14:17] so much porn [14:17] so little time [14:18] hmmm, leather, whip, porn.... hmmmm.... [14:18] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.95.69) joined ##slackware. [14:18] (you haven't read anything of course -_- ) [14:22] shes my kind of girl :D [14:22] www.surrealgirl.com but i digress [14:24] i have surrealgirls sexy page [14:26] :( [14:26] you mean you got into the directory before i put a password on it? [14:29] yes [14:29] n4k3df0rj33v [14:30] :/ [14:31] Urchlay: hi. i got the qt generator working. seems to work with <= 4.4.3. i thought i had made it compile with 4.5.x, but i must have been wrong. not it finishes with the qtbindings [14:33] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [14:33] :( [14:33] not sure if it's virtualbox or slack64-current but my mouse has trouble moving sometimes, it has limits [14:33] probably virtualbox [14:33] god this is so elite [14:33] Linux slack 2.6.29.4 #3 SMP Fri May 29 13:56:50 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 940 @ 2.93GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [14:33] is that a quad core? [14:33] josteint_: what generator? [14:33] oh crap its an i7! [14:33] yea [14:33] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:33] i7 940, had it up to 3.6ghz but since i added 6 more gigs of ram, i had to bring it down to 3.1 [14:33] i dunno why it shows 2.93, i guess that's what uname sees [14:33] what did yo uhave prior that? [14:34] Q6600, E8600 [14:34] got tired of Q6600 [14:34] oh my god [14:34] jeev_, hehe [14:34] wat [14:34] Linux tux 2.6.30-rc5 #69 SMP Sun May 17 20:39:14 CEST 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [14:34] what [14:34] lol [14:34] notice : 69 -_- [14:34] cause i think i have those too, so please tell me, how is an i7? your opinion woul dbe most accurate to me [14:34] even at my office i have a Q8200 [14:34] it's awesome, it's really fast. best cpu i've haddd [14:34] although i loved the E8600... [14:34] why e8600? [14:34] dual, fast. [14:34] and really? i7 really that much better than the otherS? [14:35] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.149.171) joined ##slackware. [14:35] what socket do i need for i7? [14:35] i hated the Q6600, i sold it and got a 8600, forgot [14:35] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [14:35] the latest one, idunno [14:35] i think i have a q6600.. [14:35] i have 12 gigs of ram [14:35] Action: Camarade_Tux stabs jeev_ [14:35] but virtualbox is only allowed to see 2 gigs hehe [14:35] man i'm so pissed, i was gonna get to host dwighthoward.com but didnt :/ [14:36] they better beat the lakers today [14:36] lol no stabby today Camarade_Tux [14:36] missyjane, but ze haz too much ramz ! [14:37] lol >.> [14:37] this is exactly what i have [14:37] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 [14:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:37] that sucks [14:37] wb Camarade_Tux :) [14:37] one day, one day, I'll add NoZap to my xorg.conf... [14:38] hopefully I had finished my editing and even had git push'd ! [14:39] wb Camarade_Tux dear [14:39] can I have a hug ? I'm sad because I killed my X ='( [14:41] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-150-108-106.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Action: missyjane hugs Camarade_Tux [14:42] ^^ [14:43] I really, really love git :) [14:44] i should try to use git at some point [14:44] saw torvalds' google vid about Git recently and I was amazed [14:44] at first I didn't know much and didn't really use it properly but now, it's ok :) [14:44] didn't see it, gonna check it ;) [14:44] :) [14:45] i'm a SVN user... so apparently I'm "ugly and stupid" :D [14:45] haha, yeah :p [14:46] i'm heavily considering doing a blog [14:47] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [14:47] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.155.48) joined ##slackware. [14:48] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [14:49] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:49] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:51] i thought torvald was an introvert.. [14:54] Which is better, SVN or GIT? [14:54] you tell us [14:54] :) [14:54] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] seems like consensus is git in here but svn in the "real world" [14:54] by real world i mean corporate world [14:54] i would go for git [14:56] pri4pus, git :p [14:56] A better question would be: How to choose the right revision control program for a project. [14:56] missyjane++ [14:56] oda (n=oda@c9516f78.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:57] and he's not quite extrovert afaict, he's not really at ease in this talk (he obviously knows the subject but you can see he doesn't really like shows) [14:57] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [14:57] pri4pus, often it comes down to : what you *can* use [14:58] as missyjane pointed out, if you're in a corporation, SVN (management loves svn), otherwise you're pretty much free and git/hg/darcs/... can all do it [14:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:59] but really, use a decentralized vcs, it's much, much better [15:00] lol :) [15:00] i have to go, ill bbl [15:01] see you :) [15:03] Nick change: |kevlinux| -> kevlinux [15:04] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.151.192) joined ##slackware. [15:04] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] you can always use SVN on the back end (to make management happy) but use git-svn locally [15:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] I've found that on large repositories, git-svn consumes less diskspace than real svn [15:05] svn really uses a lot of space =/ [15:06] git compresses things and I think that helps [15:07] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] Camarade_Tux: it was surprising to me that git-svn (sorting the complete ~3000 commit history) was significantly smaller than SVN storing just HEAD [15:08] yeah, I've been surprised too but it kinda makes sense since the diffs aren't usually big [15:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:16] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:26] I just head linus saying that in many companies, the central repository was in svn and most developpers have a git repository, they import from the central svn repo, work on it, and finally make a merge commit and merge it back into the svn repository [15:26] hm. Can we give out an award for "worst 404 error message"? I nominate this one: "Your browser cannot find the document corresponding to the URL you typed in." [15:27] (morning folks) [15:27] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] ^^ [15:27] Morning? Where do you live? [15:27] hey Urchlay :) [15:28] Hey Urchlay, how's it going? [15:28] has anyone in herre set up or played with igmpproxy, its spamming my whole network at the moment and i'm not sure why :( [15:28] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: "it's all over :X" [15:29] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [15:29] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I34FNr_peUk [15:29] oops wrong hotkey ^^ [15:30] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] russo: I remember you mentioning that in #openwrt, i think [15:30] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:31] or somethnig about routing all igmp traffic through a linksys router..something like that lol [15:31] i'm about to hang myself [15:31] antiwire: i'm not [15:31] its an openwrt xen vm :) [15:31] ah [15:31] the first hour or so after I get out of bed, I define as "morning"... even if I've slept until 3pm [15:31] Urchlay: yep [15:31] i'm glad to see slackers hang around #openwrt too :) [15:31] I just got up at 12 [15:31] slack made me a linux user :) [15:31] hehe [15:31] before i switched to mac :) [15:32] lol :D [15:32] :o [15:32] russo: then you became a slackintosh user? [15:32] i still run linux on my servers there [15:32] Urchlay: actually, a hackintosh user :) [15:32] Actually, I've got nothing against OSX. I actually like it...in a weird way. [15:32] i just like having nice looking windows in a while [15:32] Action: russo shames himself [15:33] lol i still use my terminal like 20 times more than all the mac users i know [15:33] when we have to do something in the uni, people copy paste, i start writing a bash script [15:33] :P [15:33] Most MAC users I talk to don't even know what the terminal is [15:34] That's fine though, they don't need to. [15:34] most ubuntu users i know don't either :) [15:34] lol [15:34] but seriously back in the day [15:34] good ol slack [15:35] see i come back here to ask linux related quesitons because i know where the brains are :) [15:35] i remember when you had to compile everything on slack [15:35] most ubuntu users are from ms-win of course they are going to be clueless ] [15:36] hey, wasn't there a way to cp XXXX XXXX.Y without having to type the "XXXX" part the second time? [15:36] I thought there was some special var for that [15:36] $1 ? [15:36] cp? copy? to where? [15:36] Action: russo remembers compiling enlightment for slack and then not getting it to look anywhere as good as on the screenshots [15:37] uh [15:37] you never installed slackintosh on any of your macs, out of curiosity? [15:37] i forgot hwo you do it [15:37] same dir [15:37] Urchlay: i only have intel macs [15:37] ah [15:37] might as well install the real deal :) [15:37] expensive PCs, in other words :) [15:37] Urchlay, i did [15:37] on my g4 [15:37] LnxSlck: was it any good? [15:37] NukeDukem: I'm not even talking about the path. I thought there was a var to use with cp that would was the first param that cp took [15:37] Urchlay, yes [15:37] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] antiwire: http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=95320766643&h=kxQ0b&u=Vnh8T&ref=mf Don't visit that skydive school. Seems like they didn't teach him how to pull the reserve cord. [15:38] I had a couple of ancient macs that maybe could have run slackintosh, never did much with them [15:38] antiwire: now i know what you emant [15:38] i've been battleing my igmpproxy for a whlie [15:39] agentc0re: that's freaking rad [15:39] and when it starts to broadcast to my whole network instead of multicasting and i have 5 clients on my wireless my linksys sstarts to power cycle [15:39] antiwire: i have yet to see leds flash faster in my life [15:39] before halting :P [15:39] lol [15:40] i'm about to give up and put my iptvs on a subnet [15:40] agentc0re, why through a facebook link ? [15:40] but i'm not sure how i can do that without putting more ethernet cards in my server :/ [15:40] antiwire: I've been watching a lot of "stupid aff student" type videos. Makes me appreciate my instructors :D and realize how well i am doing at such an early stage. [15:40] bleah, I have a linksys that chokes if there's too much traffic between 2 machines on the wireless LAN... it loses the ability to talk to the internet (but oddly, the LAN keeps working) [15:41] agentc0re: he had to use his reserve AND then his also hit powerlines. fantastic [15:41] antiwire: Yesterday when i jumped the instructor let go of me and it was all me in the air. It was great. [15:41] Camarade_Tux: Gah.. didn't mean to do that. [15:41] ah, i see what you want to do, good for looonng file name, no i dont know [15:41] scp'ing a 1 meg file is enough to kill my internet connection [15:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbpawRN21hA [15:41] he said he's never going to jump again. [15:42] he wasn't meant for it in the first place [15:42] Action: Camarade_Tux whips agentc0re [15:42] Camarade_Tux: Oooh, again please! ;) [15:42] lol [15:43] How's it going agentc0re? [15:43] agentc0re: what's up with the instructors not being able to get get to him, it looked like they sucked too [15:43] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-61-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] and who the fsck packed that chute [15:43] antiwire: yeah, totally oh both things. [15:43] firebird619: good :D [15:43] sitwon, linus just mentionned kde : it was 8GB in cvs (or at least more than 4GB), svn made it up to 20GB and in git it was 3.5GB [15:44] Action: Camarade_Tux whiiiiiiiiiippppssss agentc0re ! [15:44] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-150-108-106.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:44] Camarade_Tux: OW! [15:44] Camarade_Tux: Again! [15:44] :P [15:44] Camarade_Tux: link? I wanna read this. [15:44] whip, whip, whip ! [15:44] Camarade_Tux: that's a huge difference [15:44] Camarade_Tux: I need to learn GIT but Linus says I'm not pretty enough OR smart enough. [15:44] do you have a source? [15:44] cbpye, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 [15:44] antiwire, hehe :p [15:45] but he started by mentionning git had gotten muuuuch easier to use in the recent month (in the last year) [15:45] isn't igmpproxy supposed to be able to route to single hosts [15:45] i wish there was documentation for it [15:45] and, I had misheard : it was 1.3GB in git [15:45] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLCf766EX7I [15:45] not 3.5 [15:46] hey look, at dead spider! [15:47] slackaholic (n=damascen@187-24-145-167.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Camarade_Tux: thanks fo rthat link [15:47] Camarade_Tux: and 1.3GB makes it even more awesome. [15:47] antiwire: one more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exmZkwSAJxc&feature=related This one really got off bad. The instructors were stupid to let him go in my opinion. He isn't even arching well. [15:48] cbpye, I can imagine that because git has all its own objects in a single compressed files (or at least only a few ones) [15:48] so nothing lost with millions of files in each directory [15:49] antiwire: that last video look at 3:30.. He pulls the chute after spinning in a 360 several times. idiot! [15:49] why the hell is the instructor letting go of him? [15:49] why the hell did the instructor pull for him ~150 [15:50] he was flopping all over [15:50] antiwire: I feel bad for the students. [15:50] antiwire: instructors that probably good at what they do but maybe bad teachers. who knows. [15:51] agentc0re: do you have an AOD? [15:51] I wouldn't jump without one, but that's me [15:51] in case I get knocked out [15:52] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:52] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:52] wow. that 360 part, he could have tangled up [15:52] antiwire: AOD? [15:52] auto open device [15:52] antiwire: Exactly. [15:53] antiwire: They are build into all reserves. [15:53] ah [15:53] antiwire: It's part of our process to check them before you even put your gear on. [15:53] antiwire: Counter is zero with the arrow down. :) [15:54] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:54] omfg the one where he didn't clip the shoulders [15:54] WTF [15:55] antiwire: ? which one? [15:55] "oh sorry, we didn't get film of that one" lol [15:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kfPrW9olbM [15:56] good grief man [15:56] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) joined ##slackware. [15:57] antiwire: OMG. wow. [15:58] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC-CTwe-7dI&NR=1 Here's another one on what NOT to do. he tried to sit down instead of arching. this was a student bad for sure. [15:58] I still like Pastrana's stunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDBrdl2sZWs [16:00] damn man I need a real job so I can get certified [16:01] antiwire: :D you really do man. It's the best. [16:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-242.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLTw4RE7xYc&feature=related Parachute gets stuck on tail of plane [16:04] oh that's got to suck [16:04] being dragged by a plane through the air [16:04] gg [16:04] antiwire: no what sucks is the landing afterwards ;) [16:04] hahaha [16:04] haha [16:05] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [16:05] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [16:05] you probably would know what the hell was happening at initially [16:05] wouldn't** [16:06] then you'd keep seeing the plane [16:06] lol [16:07] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Hi. How can make doctest for form? Doctests for models runs fine when you run test for app, forms doctests doesn't runs... [16:09] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJrCqLZEgb8&feature=related This was close. yikes. [16:10] sorry, wrong channel ) [16:10] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:12] ok, listening finished ;) [16:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlRyv6oDI4o&feature=related [16:13] oh crap, I sent six patches to a friend yesterday, these are .patch files, I'm not sure she knows how to open them >< [16:13] lol [16:13] it seemed soooo natural to me >< [16:13] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.145.202) joined ##slackware. [16:14] you'll be getting a phone call later "What the heck did you send me? What am I suppose to do with these?" :P [16:14] I only realized because I realized I was listening to a tech talk on git given by linux torvalds at google, on a sunday night >< [16:14] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.56) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:14] s/linux/linus/ [16:15] firebird619, well, it's been more than 24 hours and I still haven't gotten it, I guess she'll tell me on tomorrow ;) [16:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.56) joined ##slackware. [16:15] firebird619, hehe :p [16:15] it's like 'camel', my fingers always type 'caml', as in 'ocaml' >< [16:16] http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/shapes.php [16:17] (and notice how well ocaml ranks -_- ) [16:18] nice [16:19] dorayakikun1 (n=chotib@114.58.253.112) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Camarade_Tux: btw, starting openbox from rl3 and setting it with xwmconfig didn't help. [16:22] and another link : http://virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=257 [16:22] firebird619, it doesn't give you any debug output ? [16:22] nope [16:22] It's weird. [16:22] oh, I think I forgot to tell you : try starting it from a terminal (like an xterm= [16:23] s/=/)/ [16:23] while in another de/wm? [16:23] (that makes a smiley) [16:23] lol [16:23] firebird619, yeah : you can use openbox --replace [16:23] or, you can start no wm but start an xterm and then start openbox from it [16:23] k, here goes. If I disappear, you know what happened. :P [16:23] hehe :p [16:24] you'll only lose borders ;) [16:24] keep a bunch of terms ready though [16:24] K, I just did that, I'm in kde btw, and it changed the window borders. [16:25] what's next chief? :P [16:25] did you get "box" ones ? [16:25] firebird619, hmm, dunno :D [16:26] yeah, openbox lookin ones. :) [16:26] well, since I really have no idea/don't want or can't think about anything right now [16:27] and since I forgot to type the end of my sentence... [16:27] haha [16:27] you might as well try it and see if it suits you [16:27] getting late it seems [16:27] (10:30pm) [16:27] I'm up to about 03:00 in the morning, 22:30 isn't late. :P [16:28] he, I have school on tomorrow ;) [16:28] yeah, that's true. [16:28] It wouldn't be good to fall asleep on your desk. [16:28] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:29] slackaholic (n=damascen@187-24-145-167.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] firebird619: for many many years i used to stay up and sleep about 4-5 hours a night at most. enjoy it while you can =) OR start sleeping decent hours while you are young and grow old gracefully. :P [16:30] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] lol [16:31] How's it going dtanner [16:31] good [16:31] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-39.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:31] yourself? [16:31] hello all [16:31] doing excellent, thanks. Weather could be better, but can't complain really. [16:32] i need help (opinion) with keyboard and mouse, which one would you recommend to buy? [16:32] dtanner: The guide is looking quite nice now. I'm just working on it making a few adjustments. :) [16:33] firebird619: it is kinda hot here... 90F [16:33] firebird619: cool on the guide [16:33] It's only 54F here. :P Chance of storms later today. [16:34] Nigromante: one that works for you. I personally like IBM model M type keyboards .. or as my current one: a `Das Keyboard' [16:34] i love cold weather better than the southern HEAT. why i still live in the south i will never know [16:34] thanks BP{k} [16:34] firebird619: the heat+humidity is so unbearable here you need an IV just to mow the yard [16:35] It had been amazing weather here the last week or so, in the 70s lower 80s, light breeze, no humidity, and now this cooler weather. [16:35] y0 BP{k}, How's it going? [16:35] I have clean socks left ! \o/ [16:35] i have been looking at Logitech's and Microsoft's and I think they suck [16:35] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:36] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [16:36] I've never had a Model M IBM, but I do have an older IBM keyboard that I love. [16:36] Nick change: Stx -> Guest67677 [16:36] Nigromante: I own both and really like both. I'm using a wireless Microsoft keyboard atm. [16:36] dorayakikun (n=chotib@114.58.220.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] ah [16:36] new models dont even have lock leds [16:36] I've forgotten, who had the full shipment of Model M keyboards ? [16:37] Das Keyboards are expensive but dang it.. they look and type something awfully nice :) [16:37] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: "it's all over :X" [16:37] Camarade_Tux: Urchlay has a ton of them. [16:37] BP{k}: Das? never heard of them. [16:37] http://www.daskeyboard.com/ [16:38] Nigromante: It really, as BP{k} said, depends on each person and what they prefer. If possible, go to a store and look at the different ones, get the feel of the keys, etc. and go from there. [16:38] Action: firebird619 googles Das keyboards. [16:38] Action: firebird619 starts a collection bucket for a Das keyboard. [16:39] (that's a model III, I have a model II ... seen here: http://tinyurl.com/29p8lb on my desk [16:39] i have done, but at least here in Spain it seems all keyboards they sell are crap [16:39] They are nice looking, and mechanical too. [16:39] logitech used to be good, anyway [16:39] BP{k}: Do they all have the lighted keys, etc? [16:40] no it's just black [16:40] Ah, ok. [16:40] Fellows makes a decent keyboard if you dont want to spend a lot of money on a keyboard [16:40] nice keyboard [16:40] apart from the three leds for {caps,num,scroll}lock [16:40] dear gosh they're expensive. [16:40] NukeDukem: Yeah, they really do. [16:40] GE also has some nice ones. [16:41] firebird619: Sadly that is their major drawback. This one was a present from my old folks. [16:41] yeah, too bad they are so spendy, they look very nice. I'm sure even on ebay they'll be quite expensive, if there are any on there. [16:41] thats spelled Fellowes [16:42] lol [16:42] NukeDukem: that's called typographical error. :P [16:42] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Nope, none on eBay, that I see anyway. [16:42] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [16:42] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl8-71-219.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:43] BP{k}: Do they have a nice heavy, sturdy feel to them as well? [16:43] i like the old ibm keyboards [16:43] weighs 15 pounds and uses a ballast of DU [16:43] firebird619: yeps :) like I said, they are pricey but they are entirely worth the money my parents paid for it ;) [16:44] Action: firebird619 passes around the collection bucket. Any donations? :P [16:44] dtanner: yeah, same here. I have 3 IBM's and tbh they are my favorites. One older one and 2 newer ones. [16:45] The older one is a IBM KB-8923 made April 1996. [16:46] I like the older ones that have that sturdy feel to them, some of the new ones are so lightweight they could be used as a frisby. :P [16:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.56) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:46] antiwire: What keyboard do you use? [16:47] I have a laptop [16:47] Oh yeah, duh. :P sorry. [16:48] my home server stays head/keyboard/mouse-less for the most part. I have an IBM KB-9910 for it [16:48] http://www.vshopu.com/item/207Z-1902/DSCF0004.jpg [16:48] that's all [16:49] simple, solid [16:49] cool. That's sure a small spacebar. [16:50] mine isn't like that [16:50] this is an identical one to what i have http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Keyboard-104-Key-KB-9910-37L2551_W0QQitemZ190310608686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item2c4f656f2e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50#ebayphotohosting [16:50] oops [16:50] thank goodness, that would annoy the heck out of me. :P [16:50] dorayakikun1 (n=chotib@114.58.253.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:50] http://www.kpsurplus.com/img/full/c11d1c2a22bb5bdfe7c79688b14bfb12541f1660.JPG [16:51] i think ill give up looking at wireless keyboards [16:51] I use a bluetooth mouse for my laptop and an old optical mouse for the server when it needs it [16:51] since my lapop has BT built in I got a BT only mouse so I don't need extra dongles [16:53] http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/docs/Microsoft%20Bluetooth%20Notebook%20Mouse%205000/Mbnm5Other.html [16:54] This is the same ibm keyboard as I have http://www.recycledgoods.com/Images/s_p_18866_1.jpg [16:54] antiwire: Wow thats some link! [16:54] lol [16:57] jescis (i=1000@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:01] firebird619: what is that, the model M with windows keys added? [17:01] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl8-67-61.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:01] yeah, Camarade_Tux was asking who had a bunch of Model M's. [17:01] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Action: Urchlay does [17:02] me too [17:02] Action: firebird619 doesn't. :P [17:02] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-163-253.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:02] other keyboards feel like trash compared to a model m [17:02] exactly [17:03] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left irc: "it's all over :X" [17:03] I think my uncle has a bunch of model M's. He just probably doesn't know where they're at. :P [17:03] although I'd like a way to rewire a model F (XT keyboard, pre-model-M) to work on a modern motherboard. That wouldn't feel like trash [17:03] hehe [17:04] took one apart, the bottom of the circuit board has a thick piece of cork under it (in the M, it's plastic) [17:06] parachutes (n=parachut@189.188.241.169) joined ##slackware. [17:06] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-242.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] parachutes (n=parachut@189.188.241.169) left ##slackware ("chaup !!!"). [17:10] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@c-46a172d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:12] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [17:13] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [17:16] TestSlack (n=TestSlac@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. 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[18:03] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:03] I just upgraded a server that was running an 8 month old version of current to the latest [18:04] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [18:05] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-163-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [18:05] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] pretty much everything I was running upgraded by hand in 12.0 anyway [18:08] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) joined ##slackware. [18:10] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-26-64.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:10] slackaholic (i=1000@187-24-145-167.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:12] russo (n=russo@about/goats/goatjockey/russo) left ##slackware. [18:12] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:13] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [18:14] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] grazymax (n=grazymax@host77-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/06/07/2019246/Hackers-Claim-To-Hit-T-Mobile-Hard?from=rss and i'm on t-mobile. [18:15] \0/ [18:16] read the mailing list [18:17] lol [18:18] i just posted that dood [18:18] DOOD [18:18] Oh, heh. I see that. [18:18] ;) [18:18] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-190.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] I wonder what the vector was [18:19] If it's actually true that is [18:20] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] it is possible to mount the root partition as read only? [18:22] remount I mean [18:22] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] dissocia1ive: /dev/VG00/root / ext3 ro,errors=continue,data=ordered 0 0 [18:24] dissocia1ive: cat /proc/mounts after mount -o remount,ro / [18:24] works [18:24] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-70-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] dissocia1ive: but remember, after making / read-only it can't write this information to /etc/mtab. "mount" command will not show this change [18:31] uva (i=bno@118-168-232-237.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] It is for reducing the posibility of filesystem damage when I know that the system will lockup I think [18:36] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.145.202) left irc: "Leaving." [18:36] dissocia1ive: do you have a failing disk or a similar situation? [18:39] let me show you [18:42] http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0305.0/0661.html [18:42] looks like the Linux kernel still doesnt has a workaround for this kind of problem [18:43] sounds like a big PITA [18:43] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [18:44] I disremember now, why can't /etc/mtab be a symlink to /proc/mounts? [18:44] (I recall doing it that way on some little embedded linux systems, but there was some reason or another not to do it on everything) [18:44] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:46] I reported such problem before but looks like It was ignored [18:47] Idiocracy moment of the day: http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-craigslist-rapist,0,2243497.story [18:47] YEY for stupid people. [18:48] wow [18:49] sick bastard [18:50] NSFW out of language http://www.sparkcaster.com/demotivational/images/alligator%20lagoon.jpg [18:50] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] haha [18:51] they're all sitting there licking there chops just waiting for him. :P [18:53] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-70-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] hmmm, time to get to bed :) [18:57] good night Camarade_Tux [18:58] Why do we waste everyones time and money by dealing with scum like that? I think if local authorities can prove right there that he was behind it, we should just put and end to his meaningless life right there. [19:00] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-39.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [19:00] death penalty for "conspiracy to commit rape"? [19:00] (is that what he'd be charged with? "being too stupid to live" still isn't a crime...) [19:01] If he hadn't posted that add, she wouldn't had been raped. Rape is definately one of those items on the list of "worse than death". [19:01] I don't know why but the body of that page isn't showing up for me [19:01] if I were the wife's brother, I might feel the need to inflict the death penalty on the rapist and the idiot husband [19:01] I see the headline and the catch and that's it [19:02] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:03] antiwire: http://www.anorak.co.uk/strange-but-true/212430.html [19:03] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] night firebird619, and be asleep by the time I wake up ;p [19:03] wtf is going on there though [19:03] maybe his sentence should be the same as she got: being raped (which will probably happen to him in prison, if it hasn't already) [19:03] I have no ad blocking going on either [19:03] Camarade_Tux: haha, unlikely. :P [19:03] firebird619, I'll whip you then -_- [19:04] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] antiwire: seems like that is how their page is setup ... [19:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:07] well how did you actually find the link then? [19:07] I don't see any links at all to that anorak [19:09] zc00gii (n=zc00gii@botters/zc00gii) joined ##slackware. [19:09] I don't use slackware, but what is the openssh package called? [19:10] good night slackers! [19:10] The actual package name depends on the version of the distribution openssh-5.2p1-i486-1 [19:10] distribution version** [19:10] hmm [19:10] antiwire: I'm contributing to a wiki [19:11] ok? [19:11] zc00gii: the openssh package is called... (drumroll please)... openssh [19:11] how would I make a "script" to locate and etc the package name [19:11] grep openssh /var/log/packages/* [19:11] what is the ultimate purpose here? [19:11] to report whether or not openssh is installed? [19:11] zc00gii: you're writing a wiki entry for a distribution that you don't use and don't know anything about? [19:12] so... [19:12] if [ -x /usr/bin/ssh ]; then [19:12] -so [19:12] echo "yes it's installed" [19:12] fi [19:12] It might be useful to install Slackware and try it out if you plan to write an effective wiki entry [19:12] Just a suggestion though [19:13] yeah... in a virtualbox VM, if nothing else [19:13] no, I'm just making a "tutorial" how to install openssh [19:13] [19:12] I'm working to get a vouch for shellium [19:13] oh great another dancing bot person... [19:13] wonderful. [19:13] what does "a vouch for shellium" mean in english? [19:14] Urchlay: get a "point" to get a free shell from shellium [19:14] Urchlay: it means "I don't care about what I write as long as I get credits so I can get a shell account" [19:14] antiwire: I'm trying to right as truthful as I can get section of a wiki page [19:14] if you aren't going to help [19:15] zc00gii (n=zc00gii@botters/zc00gii) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [19:15] yay [19:15] pretty much he does nto want to do homework [19:15] he askes the same thing in ##freebsd [19:15] yep [19:16] ehm. Anyone using freebsd who does not know how to install ssh, shouldn't be allowed near the big boys' toys (give them crayons so they don't poke their eye out) [19:16] I mean isn't it part of the default install in freebsd? [19:16] yes it was for me [19:17] When I installed it on this SPARC it evne asked if I wanted to enable it [19:17] didn't think freebsd had changed *that* much since 5.0 (last one I messed with) [19:17] it has it in base and ports the ports one is a bit up to date :) [19:19] pkg_add -r openssh (I win!) [19:19] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-39.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:19] if that guy really wants a shell account, why doesn't he just install linux or bsd? all the shells you want, and no jumping thru hoops to get them [19:20] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] clavius2 (i=James@236.sub-70-194-106.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] i want to download slackware-current... how can i do it? [19:24] wget -R [link] ??? [19:25] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] slackaholic: www.slackware.com, click on "get slack", choose a mirror... pretty straightforward, no? [19:26] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.16.73) joined ##slackware. [19:26] if you need to ask how .. you're not ready to run slackware-current :P [19:26] Urchlay but... is there a .iso file of current version? [19:26] ++BP{k}; [19:27] BP{k}: +1 [19:27] slackaholic: no. [19:27] slackaholic: you're not ready. :P [19:27] BP{k} ... [19:27] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-41-29-23.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:27] i know how and i still dont get -current because it is not a finished product and the bug fixing would drive me insane! [19:28] slackaholic: we've been sitting here answering the same question over & over again, don't get mad if we're a bit short with you... [19:28] from CURRENT.WARNING: [..] It is intended to give developers (and other Linux gurus) a chance to test out [..] <-- so slackaholic, explain why Gurus/dev's should need to ask how to download something? [19:29] BP{k} ok ok .... forget it... [19:30] just wait for it, you'll be like a kid on christmas morning with new toys when it is released :D [19:30] lol [19:30] that sort of makes Pat V santa clause [19:33] ojg (n=ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:34] Hey Pig_Pen, how's it going? [19:34] good! how are you firebird619 ? [19:35] great, thanks. There's some storms moving this direction. :P [19:35] down_fall__ (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) joined ##slackware. [19:35] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] i see snow on the dopplar radar in montana wyoming and idaho & colorado [19:36] teeheee [19:36] hi everybody ! [19:38] Action: slackaholic is away: studying.... [19:38] Pig_Pen: wow, I hadn't looked at that part of the radar yet, just my area. [19:38] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.229) joined ##slackware. [19:38] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-39.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [19:39] yup, unusal for this time of year [19:39] yeah, it sure is. [19:39] unusual* ? spelling [19:40] The past week or so had been great weather here, but yesterday and today have been rainy/dreary. [19:40] unusual is spelled right. :) [19:40] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:40] i have installed and configured a new PC , i installed linux into it , and i would like to create a svn, ssh, lamp, and ftp servers ...etc .. btw , i would like to add an external hard disk which would be accessible into my network and over the internet, what do you advice me to do ? [19:40] thanks in advance [19:41] slackaholic (i=1000@187-24-145-167.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] unusual 3 Us, ubuntu has 3 Us too, = ubuntu is an unusual distro = distro of oddballs :D [19:41] paissad: read manpages? :) svn/ssh "lamp"stuff and ftp daemons. [19:42] BP{k}, i know lamp, svn and ssh and ftp what they are for use .. :-) [19:42] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:42] BP{k}, i was just thinking about NFS [19:44] paissad: set up /etc/exports on the nfs server. start nfs servers and the clients should be able to connect :) [19:45] BP{k}, hmm, it seems to be easy .... :) [19:45] <_alisonken1churc> nfs servers being rpc daemons [19:46] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] btw, just need another advice, i would like to know a good way to backup files of some directories as soon as there's a new file from the directory to be backed up ... [19:47] i don't know if i'm clear enough, sorry, but i don't speak english very well [19:49] i already use RAID1, i have 2 hard disks of 500Mb each one, but i know that i ever i removed accidentally a file from the main disk ,i will be removed form the 2nd disk too, ... so i need to have a system of backup to another external disk .... how do you advice me to procceed ? .. [19:49] you mean, watch a directory, and if it changes, you want to create a backup before (or after?) the change? [19:51] seems he means after. [19:51] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [19:52] append? overwrite? with just two 500 meg disks it can get full PDQ [19:52] paissad: you could set up a cron job to rsync to the external disk hourly (or daily, or whatever you're willing to risk) [19:53] ah, external disk? ok, nevermind [19:53] it's a balancing act: do it too often and you slow your system down; don't do it often enough and it won't be very effective [19:54] if it was me i would just append with the new files [19:54] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] down_fall_ (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:56] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.16.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] I just drove to the store and ended up driving through a flock of seagulls. They shit all over my truck and covered my windshield so bad that I had to go to the self wash and use the pressure washer.... [20:04] hahaha [20:04] too bad your windows werent open [20:04] I would have raged if they were [20:04] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] hahaha, that sucks, yet it's funny at the same time. :P [20:04] lol [20:04] i wish your window and mouth were open [20:05] aport` (n=aport`@ip68-8-55-162.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:05] antiwire: could be worse, you could have been out walking. :P [20:05] I still feel violated [20:05] I went to get food at the store and now I have no appetite at all. [20:05] what did you buy [20:05] my weekly supplies [20:06] ky jelly and an autobuys for him ? [20:06] you forgot beer in that list but close enough [20:06] lol [20:06] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] After that crapisode I don't even feel like a beer. This is horrible [20:07] just hope there's not a sequel to crapisode. :P [20:07] lol [20:07] <_alisonken1churc> after that crapisode, you need a beer to feel cleaned up :) [20:07] antiwire: what crapisode? [20:08] its just bird poop, just think if it was flying cows [20:08] agentc0re: (2009-06-07 17:01:18) antiwire: I just drove to the store and ended up driving through a flock of seagulls. They shit all over my truck and covered my windshield so bad that I had to go to the self wash and use the pressure washer.... [20:08] NukeDukem: it might as well have been [20:08] no joke [20:08] antiwire: .... [20:08] I had to wash it off before i would keep driving [20:08] antiwire: Time to go by a pellet gun if you ask me. [20:08] seriously [20:09] I'd rather just use a 12ga after this [20:09] My pellet pistol fires at 600FPS and my Rifle at 1200FPS. They are killer and were pretty inexpensive. [20:09] antiwire: lol [20:09] but the pellet guns don't make much noise where as a 12ga would. [20:09] yeah but the 12ga would feel soo much better ;) [20:10] i seen a fully automatic bb machinegun, that would be perfect for a flock of birds, a machinegun that fired BBs [20:10] hahahaha [20:10] whoa [20:10] <_alisonken1churc> for seagulls, you need something with a little more force than a bb gun - unless it's bb's that have a big bang bahind it [20:10] seriously old ./configure script here, it supports this options: --without-w disable check for the W Window System [20:11] powered by one of those paintball air canisters [20:11] last release of W was sometime before 1984 [20:11] <_alisonken1churc> long time since I heard of the W window system [20:11] NukeDukem: Ya i've see something similar. It was a bb gun with magazine clips. Only problem is that if it's CO2 that's shooting them, they don't go very fast. Pump action is so much better. [20:11] W is one of those things I only know about from reading up on UNIX history, never seen it in person [20:12] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:12] w is a long way from x on a keyboard [20:15] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:20] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] hi [20:22] wb missyjane [20:23] ty :D [20:23] hey this is actually somewhat interesting http://phpad.sunyday.net/ [20:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:25] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:27] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:29] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:31] god im so exhausted... [20:33] missyjane, have a beer on me [20:34] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.54.177) joined ##slackware. [20:35] alright [20:35] Action: missyjane wonders where everyone lives [20:35] i wanna hang out [20:36] i live in middle atlantic ocean [20:36] good for you ? [20:36] You know I'd like to hang out with Slackware users too. Heck, even anyone using Linux at all for that matter. [20:36] Ontario, Canada. [20:36] I know no one in my area [20:37] ny here [20:37] I met one person once but all they wanted was to "h4x0r wifi" [20:37] lol [20:38] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:38] i dont know of any local Linux users in my area either [20:38] Either all the ones here are creepers or there are none [20:38] I suspect a combination of creepers and low count [20:39] LOL [20:39] it sucks cause my ex is a military guy, nothing wrong with that, just that i wanna date some geeks too :D [20:40] I think there are a bunch of people in here that are at least in my region [20:40] <_alisonken1churc> missyjane: well, there's military, geeks, and military geeks, too :) [20:40] so cal [20:40] military geek, now that would be a turn on [20:40] <_alisonken1churc> sorry - I'm already married ;) [20:40] lol the 'sleeper cell of local Linux users' [20:40] oh man I bet that line just got me onto some list...damn [20:41] <_alisonken1churc> antiwire: hah! [20:41] i think jeev and Necos are in so cal [20:41] so is briareus [20:41] lol psh married... bet your wife isnt a geek model [20:41] >.> [20:41] i'm i the only from portugal here? [20:41] <_alisonken1churc> missyjane: hardly. she's a youth minister [20:42] >< [20:42] <_alisonken1churc> antiwire: Riverside, CA area here [20:42] but i also think that if Necos, jeev, briareus and antiwire get together..nothing proper will come out of it...yeah add _alisonken1churc to that list too then [20:42] must be a conspiracy [20:42] it will surely end with the police, possibly marshals too [20:43] <_alisonken1churc> antiwire: nothing wrong with a little friendly rivalry [20:43] hehe [20:43] the driving force right? [20:43] worst thing to happen to humanity - testosterone [20:43] <_alisonken1churc> "Double Dare" usually means something unusual may happen [20:43] hahaha [20:43] <_alisonken1churc> missyjane: both worst and best [20:44] lol [20:44] <_alisonken1churc> things get done quicker because of testosterone, but also things get sidetracked because of testosterone. Best of both worlds [20:45] that makes no sense lol [20:45] yeah "ok guys let's go build that wall hey look at HER!" [20:45] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] bleh [20:45] therefore things dont get done [20:45] oh they get done, in order of priority [20:45] <_alisonken1churc> missyjane: "Hey, look at her. Let's do something to impress her!" [20:46] lol ><.. [20:46] you know what impresses me? [20:46] when a guy has a life, when he has ambition [20:46] god thats hot [20:46] <_alisonken1churc> military geek? [20:46] haha no not always [20:46] if sex is always on his mind, forgetit [20:47] it's only on our minds before and after though [20:47] the whole [20:47] <_alisonken1churc> let's just say it's usually not far from the front :) [20:47] "i am a man on a mission" is hot [20:47] meh ive met men like that [20:47] they were very hard to get and also very hot, had tons of ladies after him at all times [20:48] they also became wealthy or rich or famous or something big from a humble beginning [20:48] so yes, very powerful ambition = turnon [20:48] you've just described any alpha [20:48] lol i guess so [20:48] like my ex [20:48] <_alisonken1churc> the fun part is explaining to the wife that a lot of times it's just a matter of sex may not be planned for tonight, but it won't be ignored if the opportunity is present [20:48] the whole "*drool tongues* oh god look at her *gets distracted*" is a turn off :( [20:48] i dont get it [20:49] well you won't get it because you're a female [20:49] lol o well [20:49] just have some ambition and all the girls will come to you [20:49] ive never met a man who had a mission in his head (example "i must be the greatest programmer" or "i will write a book") and never have a gf [20:49] but that ambition also flows into the ambition of getting the girls we want [20:49] so that's a turn off [20:49] its usually the lazy bum that plays games 24/7 and farts around and pick nose that dont have a gf [20:50] so it's a circular dep [20:50] <_alisonken1churc> ok - think of it this way. The wife loves her backrubs. Giving a backrub can be an extreme turnon for the guy. There are plenty of times I offer a no-strings-attached backrub - but if she opens the door, I'll have no problem closing the bedroom door [20:50] ambition of getting girl, lol thats because its lame and childish [20:50] you are willing to cheat on your wife? [20:50] but it's the same drive in men [20:50] never [20:50] i'm not married but I'd never cheat on anyone [20:50] <_alisonken1churc> missyjane: nope. she know's that as well [20:50] ok [20:51] i will admi [20:51] that same ambition that turns you on is the same drive behind the man's sex drive [20:51] im glad im a female :X [20:51] <_alisonken1churc> and yes - opportunity has been present before [20:51] <_alisonken1churc> antiwire: with the addition of testosterone :) [20:51] it's the same thing though. that testosterone IS the factor [20:52] it is the "i'm a man and i'll get it" factor [20:52] ok [20:54] hahahahahahahahahaha [20:54] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] you guys know those website, put your number and we'll call you ? [20:54] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:54] put their own number LOL [20:54] jeev: yeah the "get out of a blind date" tool? [20:55] no [20:55] like a website [20:55] put your number for sales [20:55] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:55] and it calls YOU and connects you to sales [20:55] google's chromium source code package is over 700 megs before unpacking, fsck that! theres no way in hell i am going to try and build that for some stupid unstable web browser [20:56] i think it uses their own dns server too [20:56] i put my dns poison and went to a broken link [20:56] and it said dns issue [20:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:57] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) joined ##slackware. [20:57] is slackware.org down? I can't seem to get it to load. [20:58] try slackware.com [20:58] <_alisonken1churc> going to say I only know of slackware.com [20:58] _alisonken1churc: you're irc'ing from church? :P [20:58] heh [20:59] <_alisonken1churc> antler: no - I broght the computer home to do some work - switching this one for a beefier one [20:59] Thanks. I haven't looked at slackware in so long. I guess google would've helped there. ;) [21:00] Nick change: _alisonken1churc -> alisonken1church [21:02] alisonken1church is now know as alisonken1churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints :P [21:02] antler: doh! [21:02] the wife would _reaaly_love that one :) [21:04] what are you going to do when you die you find there is no god and no devil, no heaven & no hell? [21:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] NukeDukem: we'll have to see when we get there then [21:04] no afterlife, just lights out, game over [21:04] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:04] if that's true, then what can he do? :P [21:04] NukeDukem: If it's just lights out and gameover, I think I'd press restart. [21:04] NukeDukem: the flip side is "what will you do when you die and find out ther IS a God? [21:05] no restart button [21:05] i am placing my bet on there isnt [21:05] NukeDukem: I'd implement one. [21:05] that's why it's faith - don't know, but it's what is believed [21:06] That's why there's science. Do know, and it's what is proven. :) [21:07] sajes, science does NOT say there is no god [21:07] if there is a god, how do you know the christianity is the right religion, what if the muslems are right? or the hindus? [21:07] missyjane: It should. :o [21:07] NukeDukem, no, thats not how it works, look into Spinozas God [21:07] science can only prove by facts. God is belief. [21:07] sajes science is merely short for scientific method [21:07] . /facts/observable facts/ [21:07] it does NOT have a say about god or supernatural as of modern days [21:07] you're all going to be laughing when Odin makes you oar-slaves to row his fleet of war galleys into battle when Ragnarok happens :) [21:07] or what if a more obscure religion is the correct one? [21:08] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [21:08] missyjane: It says you can't flick your finger and create millions of things in one second though. [21:08] eh, I mean, you're *not* going to be laughing. Rowing war galleys is hard work... [21:08] sajes: only by science _as we know it right now_ : but science also allows for other phenomenon as well [21:08] sajes it doesnt, because nobody knows yet, we are still figuring out black holes and big bang [21:09] Action: sajes headdesks. [21:09] dont headdesk moron [21:09] science does not say anything about god [21:09] sajes: does science explain everything right now? [21:09] period [21:09] thing about debating religion is, you ain't going to change each others' minds [21:09] missyjane: Why not? It feels better than reading that. :o [21:10] because when ppl use "rolleyes" or "headdesk" or "facepalm" it usually mean they have nothing better to say and are frustrated because they have no counterposition [21:10] Urchlay: Religion and politics - two of the biggest disagreement discussions known to man [21:10] and they want to live in their twisted little reliaty [21:10] science too alisonken1church [21:10] tons of ppl think science is the work of the devil and science is evil [21:10] ESPECIALLY if science doesnt support their position [21:10] missyjane: I like my twisted reality. [21:10] sajes, have fun, i LOVE Mine [21:11] come on fell the noise! oh, wait, that's twisted sister... [21:11] missyjane: yeah, and most of those people use cell phones and the internet to spread their anti-science ideas... you can probably spot the flaw in their behaviour, but they generally can't... [21:11] missyjane: not really - scienctific _theories_, maybe, but average people discuss religion and politics, not scientific theories [21:11] evolution is right, we evolved from more primitive species [21:11] antler: you fail at 80s hair bands, that's Quiet Riot :) [21:11] alisonken1church, i seriously hope you understand how scientific theories work [21:11] oh shit, Urchlay ... that's right! [21:11] missyjane: The reason I stopped debating is because it doesn't really matter a whole lot. I believe what I want. Other people's beliefs rarely affect me anyway. [21:11] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.149.171) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] evolution proves how a species get's stronger, not necesarily how species evolves [21:12] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:12] sajes just so long as you dont say stupid shit [21:12] missyjane: yes, I do [21:12] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:12] alisonken1church, because people have said science is wrong, even scientific facts [21:12] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-207.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] missyjane: Stupid shit as in what? [21:12] missyjane: facts are never false. [21:13] even "this fact is false" isn' [21:13] testosterone one minute, religion the next. Oh if slackboy was only mine. :P [21:13] antler, depends :) but generally speaking, facts are never false [21:13] isn't really false [21:13] missyjane: and people used to say the sun revolved around the earth - I know how people are - spent 20 years around all different kinds of em [21:13] http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1 read this [21:13] missyjane: it never depends. facts, by nature, are never false. period. [21:13] but a lot of things considered "facts" aren't really facts in the objective sense [21:13] chopp: :) [21:13] antler, that would be semantics and philosophy, i want to get practical here [21:13] http://pastebin.com/m74c611c5 here is an interesting read alisonken1church [21:14] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] missyjane: fair point. [21:16] Pig_Pen: Interesting. first I heard of centromeres [21:16] not that I'm a biologist or anything close to resembling one [21:16] anyone that denies science is a moron but at the same time, anyone that denies god is also a moron, here is the thing, nobody knows, but the proble ultimately that i have with is organized religion [21:16] Is vim still labled as "required" in the slackware installer? [21:16] missyjane: I knows. [21:16] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] no you dont, even dawkin wouldnt say 10 from 1-10 of belief in god, noboyd knows, scientists would be foolish to say 10 for sure [21:17] heh, my first thought on reading that article was "whoa, midichlorians are real?"... but I watch too many movies [21:17] but organized religion? psh that can go to hell lol [21:17] may the force be with you Urchlay [21:17] missyjane: second one is cuet [21:17] s/suet/cute [21:18] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.102.51) left irc: "The universe is not real, only possible." [21:18] Action: sajes thinks emacs should be labled as required instead of vim. [21:18] samychow (n=sjc5002@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Urchlay: Star Trek or Crystal Singer/ [21:18] i have no idea what "denying science" means. does it mean "denying the claims of science?" [21:18] ? [21:18] denying the methodology? [21:18] elvis! think of it as vim with sideburns a guitar and driving a hotpink caddy :D [21:18] Urchlay: n/m - Star Wars [21:18] dow [21:19] dob [21:19] doh! (get this keyboard right yet) [21:19] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:19] antler, "scientists are all members of the illuminatis / [some random secret group] " "scientists work with the devil so yo udont believe in the bible" "scientists make up hard names to confuse you" "scientists cant prove anything and if they can, its cause god gave it to htem" [21:19] etc [21:19] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] but im very fundemental in my belief for and understanding of science cause i know one from nyu she is a quantum physicist [21:21] sajes: according to the tagfile, vim:REC [21:21] and she talks about how crazy things happen when talking about the deeper subjects, like quantum randomness, etc [21:21] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726485.700-quantum-randomness-may-not-be-random.html [21:21] i have a feeling after the end of the world there is going to be a heck of a lot of disapointed dead people knocking on the inside of their caskets waiting for a non-existent god to raise them from the dead [21:22] alisonken1church: Eh? [21:22] Not to throw fuel on a fire, not at all, I found this interesting: http://www.ianlawton.com/rsindex.htm [21:22] Pig_Pen: either dead people wishig they had believed in god or dead people wondering what happened to their god [21:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:22] sajes: you asked if vim was required in slackware [21:23] alisonken1church: During the install (last time), it mentioned (required) next to vim. [21:23] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] hmm - in the tagfile, ADD would be required, REC is recommended, OPT is optional. According to the tagfile in ap/, vim is labelled REC. But, that's in -current, so have to go back and check again [21:24] that, and I was looking as slack64 tagfiles [21:25] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:27] It was a long time ago, it could've been changed. [21:28] I can't hang around, but to my knowledge, vim has *never* been required. elvis has always been the vi clone that was required. [21:28] elvis is the vi variant that's marked as required [21:28] It's possible that nvi used to be shipped (a long time ago) though. [21:28] Perhaps it was elvis then. [21:29] and re making emacs required, that's insane. :) [21:29] though unless I'm greatly mistaken, vim will install a symlink /usr/bin/vi -> vim, if no /usr/bin/vi already exists (so what's really required is "either elvis or vim", but there's no way to state that in the tagfile) [21:29] correct [21:29] uzr|a (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:30] vim has, until this -current tree, caused problems with crontab editing, so elvis was the logical default regardless. [21:30] oh, right, I fixed that in my .vimrc so long ago I had forgot it was an issue still [21:30] :) [21:30] antiwire: that link *is* very interesting. [21:30] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] chopp: I thought so too, fairly understandable and not flaming [21:31] rworkman: Making any text editor required is insane. I can just remove elvis and install emacs. :p [21:31] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:32] does anyone else here use xfce? [21:32] I do [21:32] I'm considering installing slackware over gentoo though. Just need to research on how to install it from usb. No optical drive ftl. [21:32] sajes: emacs is not a text editor - it's an operating system. Just ask :) [21:32] sajes: well *some* text editor is required (vi or emacs or gnotepad++ or nano or ...) [21:32] sajes: thee's adirectory for usb installers on the cd/dvd [21:32] Urchlay: ed. [21:32] sajes: edlin [21:32] yeah, ed, the real man's editor [21:33] Action: Urchlay throws holy water on alisonken1church! Abomination! [21:33] Urchlay: real men just use pipes [21:33] tbb (n=sammo@93-97-217-71.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:33] Action: alisonken1church remembers edlin and the fun it was [21:33] alisonken1church: I'll take a look at it. [21:33] alisonken1church: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=682 :P [21:34] Gentoo became the next ubuntu. :(. [21:34] chopp: hahahah [21:34] hm. /bin/ed is really a symlink to /usr/bin/ed, and it's dynamically linked too [21:34] berke: I do, what do you want? [21:34] forgot about that one [21:34] there really ought to be a statically linked text editor of *some* kind in /bin or maybe /sbin [21:34] alright im going to bed, it was nice discussing with you guys, night [21:34] missyjane: nite [21:34] good night missyjane [21:34] Nick change: uzr|a -> uzr [21:35] Action: uzr is back [21:35] ed2ef (n=eduardo@201.17.100.139) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Nick change: uzr -> uzr|a [21:35] Action: uzr|a is gone [21:35] and it appears uzr|a is away again. [21:35] Nick change: uzr|a -> uzr [21:36] Action: uzr is back [21:36] who the hell is uzr anyway? ever actually said anything? [21:36] Urchlay: I also remember using paper tape and teletypes to punch in a program [21:36] alisonken1church: slightly before my time. I remember using cassette tape to save & load programs [21:36] 5-level at athat [21:36] well uzr's real name is, Bong. [21:36] Action: chopp kicks uzr upside the hairdo [21:37] Action: agentc0re high fives chopp [21:37] hmm, lemme see if i can find something... [21:38] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:38] danc3: i just did a fresh install of slackware 64, and under xfce there is no top panel, only a bottom panel, and its never been like that before, was wondering what happened to it [21:38] Urchlay: I also still have my cheat cards for the CP642, CP1218 and UYK20 computers :) [21:39] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@c-46a172d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [21:39] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:39] berke: dunno, don't use 64... could be a new version of xfce I suppose [21:39] berke: That is how it is in xfce 4.6. [21:39] I believe you can add more panels if you want though. [21:39] you can add as many panels as you want [21:39] danc3: slackware32 and slackware64 are pretty much identical. the only difference is 64-bit v. 32-bit binaries [21:39] bleah, userfriendly.org strips are not well indexed by google. Was looking for the one where Sid teaches the techs to play Magic: The Gathering with punchcards [21:40] I have them on the sides :) [21:40] I figured you could add more, wasn't sure though. [21:40] on the sides, what about top and bottom? Do you have the screen surrounded? [21:40] berke: as firebird619 said, that is a newer version of xfce [21:41] or maybe they're playing World of Warcraft with punchcards. Can't remember, but it was hilarious when I first saw it [21:41] No not on the top and bottom [21:41] just one on each side? [21:41] is there an official slackware 64 ? [21:41] Main bar is on the right and i have a little bar on the lower left for verve-plugin :D [21:41] Nick change: ClaudioM -> KingClaudichadne [21:41] cool [21:41] Nick change: KingClaudichadne -> Claudichadnezzar [21:41] jonsmith1982, yes but not a dvd [21:42] no but I did a test install a few days ago, and the top panel was there [21:42] firebird619, yeah. The sidebar works a lot better i feel, particular in widescreen. I like having the extra vertical real estate. Apps are rarely too wide, but they are always too short :) [21:42] particularly* [21:42] berke: were you drinking during the install? [21:42] only mushroom juice [21:42] hiptobecubic: I've never thought of trying that setup, I use a 22' widescreen. [21:43] berke: that would explain it. :P [21:43] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [21:43] firebird619: wow. that's is indeed a large screen [21:43] 22'? you must have a pretty big desk. [21:43] haha, yeah. [21:43] antler: yup, sure is. :) [21:43] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:44] I have two 20.1" widescreens :D :D [21:44] 22"? that's it? I have a 22" 20" 19" 17" laptop and a 17 inch crt.... [21:44] show off [21:44] firebird619, when your screen is that large it might not make a difference. but on a little laptop 1280x800 it helps [21:44] And an 18 inch tv sitting behind me. [21:44] firebird619: do you use a projector? :P [21:44] lol, no [21:44] firebird619: by 22", you mean diagonally, right? [21:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] yeah [21:44] (un, the same one they use at the imax?) [21:44] um [21:44] sajes, that's how screens are measured [21:44] Urchlay: try sifting through http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/storylines.html [21:45] antler: It seems that clearing out /home also fixed my openbox not starting issue too. :) [21:45] hiptobecubic: The screens themselves, yes. But there's always a bezel around it. I didn't know if he was including that or not. Also, no bezel if it's an OLED. [21:46] Nick change: uzr -> uzr|a [21:46] Action: uzr|a is gone [21:46] theblackerbox (n=sammo@93-97-223-69.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:46] agentc0re: i have two identical 23" samsungs. total resolution of 4096x1152 :D [21:46] uzr|a (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Caught signal 15, Terminated" [21:46] firebird619: way cool :) [21:46] antler: NICE! [21:46] antler: and, I'm just about finished building lxde. :) [21:47] firebird619, trying out new DEs? [21:47] yeah [21:47] de's and wm's [21:47] agentc0re: i went from a 17" crt (when i was in vietnam); so, yeah, it's a small step up [21:47] loving fluxbox, but still trying out other ones [21:47] antler: I wish i had a vertical of 1152. [21:47] I only have a 1024. [21:48] alisonken1church: actually those old userfriendly cartoons bring back somewhat painful memories [21:48] agentc0re: yeah, the native is 2048x1152 on each. [21:49] Action: firebird619 steals one of antler's monitors, runs through the fields yelling "HAHAHA, catch me if you can." [21:49] firebird619: i tried lxde a while back. went straight back to kde :) [21:49] back when I was reading them a lot I was young & optimistic, and a bunch of stuff happened to make me the bitter cynical old bastard I've become [21:49] firebird619: hahahah [21:49] antler: haha, well, I've just been trying different ones lately, we'll see. :P [21:50] Action: agentc0re trips firebird619 as he runs, grabs the monitor and runs for the hills! [21:50] Action: tuvok302 ambushes agentc0re, and rushes out of the red base towards the blue base [21:50] Urchlay is now known as aded_jay [21:50] heh [21:50] agentc0re, dang, how'd you get to me so fast. [21:50] Was hiding behind that tree :P [21:51] Action: antler laughs because he replaced the real monitors with the paper ones they have on display at ikea [21:51] man, didn't even see ya there. :P [21:51] "So, if the red guys win, that means they'll have two bases in the ass end of nowhere?" [21:51] antler: I wondered why it was so light. [21:51] Urchlay: No that would be the brown team. [21:51] ;) [21:51] antler: actually I want one of the cardboard PCs they have, want to put a real motherboard in it [21:52] paper monitor? oragami? [21:52] NukeDukem: it's an output device for the guy from Venture Brothers who only communicates by origami [21:52] Urchlay: hahah that'd be a way to trip out your friends. [21:53] k, brb. gonna log in to lxde and see what it's like. [21:53] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:53] Urchlay: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20011229&mode=classic [21:53] D&D with punch cards [21:53] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:54] back [21:54] antler: I don't hate it, at least not yet anyway. [21:54] it says Quake 2... still hilarious [21:54] firebird619: it's actually quite punchy [21:54] snappy [21:54] yeah, seems that way. I'm trying to figure out the two icons that are red x's on the panel. :P [21:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:55] firebird619: I was fully prepared to see... Aggh! My eyes! The goggles do nothing! [21:55] haha [21:56] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Urchlay: "we're not gonna take it!" <---that was what i was thinking of earlier.... twisted sister :P [21:56] (i think) [21:56] antler: "what do you want to do with your life?" [21:56] no, we ain't gonna take it. :P [21:56] oh! man! [21:56] i wanna rock! [21:56] hahahaha [21:57] wow. thanks for the stroll down memory lane. [21:57] I think Twisted Sister is actually still touring [21:57] Hmm, these two icons are red X's, upon clicking, they do nothing, guess they can be removed. [21:57] it's not that they've become unpopular, it's just that their appeal has become more selective :) [21:57] rock out with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJwz7wu8_s [21:58] Urchlay: how diplomatic hahaha [21:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:58] who's that in the video with him, jack black? [21:58] antler: that's a spinal tap quote [21:58] what the heck, how do I remove em. :P [21:59] Urchlay: oh, didn't know that. sounded true and cool, anyway. [22:00] samychow (n=sjc5002@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [22:00] They won't delete. They don't even show up in the list of Application Launchers on the panel. :P [22:00] firebird619: hahaha [22:00] theblackerbox (n=sammo@78-105-244-154.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:00] don't laugh at me. I find no humor in this situation. :P [22:01] Action: antler straightens up and flies straight [22:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:01] wb hiptobecubic [22:01] Is anyone sitting on a windows network? I can never get smb and nmb to work properly and would love some help [22:01] antler: lol. This is quite nice, but tbh, it's nothing special over anything else I've tried. :P [22:01] `smbtree` for example, does nothing. No errors. No messages. nothing. i'm stumped [22:02] firebird619, howdy [22:02] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:02] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:03] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] hiptobecubic: I'm in lxde now. :P [22:03] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.87.113.68) joined ##slackware. [22:04] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:04] firebird619, how is it? [22:04] quite nice, very fast, but there's two icons on the panel with red x's that do nothing and won't go away. :P [22:04] firebird619, and what makes it worth switching. I like xfce's plugins and speed [22:04] firebird619, ahhhhh the smell of FOSS :D [22:05] tbh, I would say nothing would make it worth switching, especially from xfce. [22:05] I don't think I could ever adopt a wm or de that didn't have something like verve [22:05] I can't remember what verve is, reminder please? :) [22:05] I know a plugin for xfce [22:06] It's like a run dialog box (think alt+f2) but has tab completion and history etc [22:06] Hey! [22:06] howdy [22:06] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:06] hiptobecubic: Oh yeah, :P thanks. [22:06] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] I use it to launch apps, launch terminal, run scripts and the like. [22:07] compile gnome in slackware? [22:07] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [22:08] hiptobecubic: which xfce version do you use? [22:08] elilo: sure, if you want to, and if you're not in a hurry [22:08] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:08] 4.6 [22:09] hiptobecubic: and the plugins from SBo with it? [22:09] firebird619, yes, i believe they are all on SBo. [22:09] hiptobecubic: cool, I'll maybe have to get the plugins installed again. [22:10] firebird619: find anything cool in lxde? :P [22:10] antler: nah, not really. [22:10] mount devices, verve, clipman are all essentials :) [22:10] it's quite fast, I'll give it that. [22:10] but no faster than xfce and flux are, imo. [22:10] firebird619, they are all fast at first :) [22:11] hiptobecubic: yeah, and then we configure them. :P [22:11] give it a month of loading things and tweaking [22:11] constipation central [22:11] Urchlay: yes. for gnome 2.28 [22:12] compared to flux, xfce almost seems to load slow for me now, but I think it's from configuring too much, I bet if I wiped out the xfce config I have, it'd load as snappy as it did before. [22:12] heh on my system, kde is faster than xfce [22:13] antler: that's the case for me right now. :P [22:13] how do you switch over to xfce [22:13] i want to try it [22:13] xwmconfig [22:13] xwmconfig, or if you use kdm, it's listed in Sessions. [22:13] tbb (n=sammo@93-97-217-71.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] dwm [22:13] ok testing, brrrrrrrrrrrrb [22:13] k, may the source be with you in your switch. :) [22:13] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [22:14] NukeDukem: WHAT, are you crazy? :P [22:14] I can't stand twm and the ones like it, they drive me mad. :P [22:14] if you want small and fast, it dont get any smaller & faster than dwm [22:14] heh my box always boots to the login prompt. my wife's gotten used to it [22:15] jeev_ (n=jeev@24-180-16-19.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] heh [22:15] it's ok [22:15] dwm, not twm [22:15] brb [22:15] antler: you tried opera 10 yet? I'm gonna keep askin you. :P [22:15] NukeDukem: you could just as well drop x and use cli. :P [22:16] firebird619: i'll definitely try it out when it's official; i prefer opera to firefox, actually. it's just that opera, a few versions ago, didn't seem to work well with hotmail.com. and i still use my hotmail account on a regular basis [22:17] hotmail works fine on the 9.x series, for me anyway. 10 is in beta status right now, but very stable. [22:18] So anyone seen nullboy recently? [22:18] what's the fun in waiting for it to become official. :P (which will be a little later this year) :D [22:19] i love slack man, kde and shit [22:19] i just dont know if i can handle it primarily [22:20] jeev_: Don't be weak. [22:20] i rely on a lot of things [22:20] Guest40049 (n=root@190.2.198.111) joined ##slackware. [22:20] right now it's sort of annoying cause i'm using virtualbox [22:20] heh [22:20] i hope the lakers lose man shit [22:21] firebird619: if i find a way to install just opera's browser, that'd be ideal. gotta look into that when 10 comes out [22:22] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] Nick change: Guest40049 -> ramiro [22:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:22] isn't there an SBo for Opera? [22:22] yes [22:23] firebird619: just the browser as opposed to the chat client, the e-mail, the torrent, etc. [22:23] yeah [22:23] antler: lol, good luck with that venture. [22:23] Urchlay: I'm trying to thing of a bit more automagic way of dealing with the ancient crufty bins thing than hand patching binaries. Also a later version of Wingz wanted to look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale which doesn't exist for current installations of Xorg, so I'm thinking of hacking a wrapper around open() via LD_PRELOAD to intercept that and redirect the path to something in the old libraries directory. [22:23] firebird619: not possible, eh? [22:23] ramiro (n=root@190.2.198.111) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [22:23] antler: not that I've ever seen. [22:23] antler: I have seen where people have customized it so that it just doesn't show the menus, etc. for mail, irc, etc. [22:24] That might be worth writing up. What I have now works but is quite ugly. [22:24] firebird619: yeah, that i usually do after installing it [22:24] AbsTradE1ic (n=vldmr@189.87.113.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] antler: I've never done that just because I use the mail, bittorrent (sometimes), etc. with it. [22:25] plus, using the beta snapshots, I tell it to use a different directory than opera 9.64. [22:26] firebird619: i like that opera is more customisable than firefox in terms appearance, e.g., the placement of the menu and navigation bars :P [22:27] yeah, same here, you can really customize the look and everything, it's great. [22:27] but the biggest plus has got to be the fonts :D [22:27] (for me) [22:27] alienBlurb (i=3351@slackware.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:28] i prefer the power of firefox's addons. The built-in opera features just don't match them. Mouse gestures, greasemonkey etc [22:28] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Nick change: Claudichadnezzar -> ClaudioM [22:29] firefox's extensions are the only thing going for it [22:30] hiptobecubic: opera has built-in mouse gestures, and it's equivalent if you will to greasemonkey are widgets and UserJS. [22:30] but the built in mouse gestures are worse, is what i was getting at. [22:30] At least, after getting used to the way the FF ones behave :) [22:30] how so? I'm curious now. :P [22:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [22:32] they just weren't as responsive [22:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] hrm slackware.com down for anyone? [22:33] yup [22:33] just makeing sure it wasn' tjust me [22:33] indeed [22:33] yup [22:33] downforeveryoneorjustme.com [22:33] hiptobecubic: lol, nice link. [22:34] ;) [22:34] It's not just you! http://www.slackware.com looks down from here. [22:34] :P [22:34] hba (n=hba@189.188.146.93) joined ##slackware. [22:34] hiptobecubic: I'm getting the xfce plugins installed now. [22:34] Comatose here too. [22:34] firebird619, delicious. Are you in -current? [22:35] no, 12.2 and using rworkman's xfce package. [22:35] looks down here, too [22:35] Hey PiterPunk, how are you? [22:36] ok so its not just a routing issue then [22:37] AngelDeath (n=angeldea@190.201.238.161) joined ##slackware. [22:37] firebird619, does smbtree work for you? [22:37] AngelDeath (n=angeldea@190.201.238.161) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [22:38] kestrel (n=will@h69-130-32-97.kndrid.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] hiptobecubic: I don't use it, so I'm not sure. :P [22:38] firebird619, are you on a network with windows boxes? [22:38] xine http://hba.ath.cx:8081/stream.mp3 [22:38] hiptobecubic: no [22:39] hiptobecubic: If I was, I'd test it for you, but I'm not. [22:40] well. can you tell me what happens when you run smbtree at the cli? [22:40] ed2ef (n=eduardo@201.17.100.139) left irc: "Saindo" [22:40] Hmm. slackware.com is down now. :\ [22:41] old news sajes :P [22:41] slackware.com is hiding like a rock star hides from groupies [22:41] firebird619: I missed it. Is it just scheduled maintenance? [22:41] hiptobecubic: params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "/etc/samba/smb.conf": No such file or directory :P I don't use samba at all, so it probably won't work for me. [22:42] hm interesting. ok thanks [22:42] sajes: I am not sure, I just know it's down atm. [22:42] slackware.com down? wtf? thats not true :P [22:42] hiptobecubic: you're welcome. [22:42] hba: It was down just a few minutes ago, read above. [22:42] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] Dominian: slackware.com's working now. :P [22:42] shoop da whoop, it's back :D. [22:42] kestrel (n=will@h69-130-32-97.kndrid.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] 21:40 Hmm. slackware.com is down now. :\ [22:43] haha [22:43] hba: above that even. [22:43] it's not down [22:43] not anymore [22:43] it wa [22:43] was [22:43] oh [22:43] elilo (n=elilo@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [22:43] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] maybe Pat was testing debian... [22:44] :) [22:44] hahaha [22:44] I'm guessing he already has and that's why he made slackware. :P [22:45] hba: or maybe it's the "Well, folks, Slackware 13.0 64-bit is out..." that he put there [22:45] ... maybe apache 0.1 was the problem.. [22:45] firebird619: except for the part about Slackware being quite a bit older than Debian, maybe :) [22:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:46] hiptobecubic: It's possible your firewall is blocking smb connections, in that case smbtree won't return anything. [22:46] rworkman: haha, true. :P [22:46] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.39.226) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] chance22, i can use nmblookup and smbmount (if i already know the host-name dir-name etc) so i don't think that's it [22:48] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:49] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "[BX] Bender uses BitchX. Bite my shiny metal ass!" [22:51] http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/08/hyperion-uranium-hydride-nuclear.html [22:51] I want my own self-regulating nuclear reactor [22:51] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:52] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:53] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] Is the usb boot image in cd1 or do I have to download all 6 or the dvd? [22:53] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:53] slKIvs (n=ivan@212.115.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [22:54] If you just want the 12.2 usb boot image just get it alone from a mirror [22:54] but to answer the question, it's on disk 6 [22:55] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [22:55] and you don't need to download all 6 images just to get the usb boot image. just get disk 1 and 6 [22:56] antiwire: Well, I have a 1GB flash drive to install from. Guess installing from ftp would be the wiser thing to do. Three discs won't fit on that. [22:57] sajes, not likely. [22:57] sajes, use the boot image and slackpkg [22:59] hiptobecubic: plugins are all installed now. :) [22:59] firebird619, :) [23:00] I'll log in to xfce now and check them out. :) [23:00] maybe even try the panel on the side, you have any ss's of that? [23:01] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [23:02] hi [23:03] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [23:03] Hello, Thom1. [23:04] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:05] brb [23:05] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:05] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:05] back :) [23:06] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:08] wb [23:08] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Thanks hitest [23:08] hitest: How are you? [23:10] yw:) I'm good firebird619. I'm currently scanning a new install of XP Pro SP2 for viruses. XP Pro running in Qemu:) [23:10] cool. Hope you're virus free. [23:10] a new install? if the OS install CD comes with viruses on it, you might as well give up now :) [23:11] lol [23:11] LOL. A VM is the only place I'll run winders......I'm completely paranoid about windows [23:11] of course :) [23:12] yeah, I have a virtualbox install of win2k, for playing "age of empires" and nothing else [23:12] (fortunately that game doesn't require anything newer than 2k) [23:13] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.87.113.68) joined ##slackware. [23:14] heh pretty cool game [23:14] I suppose XP home's product activation wouldn't be allowed on a VM [23:14] Urchlay: No, it isn't. I've tried. At least it didn't work for me. [23:14] haven't seen it yet [23:15] i have xp pro activated in vbox. every now and again it'll ask me to install the genuine windows advantage again [23:15] antler: are you talking about windows update doing that? [23:15] if so, that's normal [23:16] windows swindlows [23:16] antiwire: yeah, if i say no to the genuine advantage, updates are limited, i believe [23:16] if i say yes, all is good [23:16] those WGA updates are normal [23:16] if you don't accept you stop getting updates [23:16] yeah [23:16] you don't use a corporate version who doesn't require activation key ? [23:16] i've never said no; so i dunno [23:17] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] antiwire: it's annoying imo. i think that validating should be once and only once per machine [23:18] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] Thom1: I use legal copies. [23:19] I use a legit copy of win2k... or at least, I bought a laptop that came with a legit copy of win2k preinstalled, which I immediately wiped, so I figure I'm entitled to run one instance of win2k [23:19] Copies I have paid for [23:19] okay, I don't know legal copies exist :) [23:20] if the laptop had come with an actual win2k install CD, like it would in any sane world, I would have just used that to install in vbox [23:20] Thom1: why not go back to when you said, "hi" [23:20] Thom1: ... [23:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:20] Nick change: toastyto1st -> toastytoast [23:20] antler, why ? [23:21] Thom1: A legal copy is a copy of Windows XP at is distributed through an authorized conduit. You think each retail disk is a unique build? [23:21] Did I say something bad ? [23:21] They are all copies. legal and illegal...it's still a copy. [23:21] antiwire, it was just a joke [23:22] Thom1: Yeah well in this conversation it was bait. [23:24] excuse me to be idiot [23:24] Thom1 (n=Thom1@75.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6.2"). [23:24] inspiron630 (n=aldskfj@c-69-140-223-165.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] Well that's fine with me. [23:28] hiptobecubic: I added verve to the panel on the bottom, how can I remove it. right-clicking doesn't help, I'm not seeing anything on google, not yet anyway? [23:29] nm, got it. had to right click just on the skinny border around it. :P [23:29] yes it's tricky because it has it's own context menu, you have to be accurate [23:29] firebird619, yeah [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] for now, I have the panel on the bottom, and then one with verve and a few other things in the top right. [23:30] firebird619, i made a tiny auto-hide panel on the left-bottom spot that pops out when verve-focus is called via hotkey (i use right alt + space) it's nice [23:30] cool [23:33] firebird619, http://john.bitsurge.net/public/Screenshot-35.png [23:34] is that xfce? [23:34] yes [23:34] pretty cool looking [23:34] antler, i enjoy it [23:34] hiptobecubic: very nice. [23:34] firebird619, verve is showing at the bottom corner there [23:34] good night folks:) [23:35] night hitest [23:35] nighty night [23:35] hiptobecubic: yeah, I see that. [23:35] night firebird619, hiptobecubic [23:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:36] firebird619, my only problem with it is that after you give it focus, you have to run a command or it will stay popped-out. I usually just use `echo` if i do it on accident [23:37] now i wanna try xfce heh brb [23:37] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:38] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:38] haha [23:39] hiptobecubic: looks like antler may be an xfce convert. :) [23:39] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:39] :D [23:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:40] i'm trying to get the control of my 2nd pc using ssh , i did ssh -X login@ip [23:40] i got connected but no X [23:41] i modified /etc/ssh/sshd_config [23:41] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:41] wb antler [23:41] you start the x server on your local pc [23:41] hey, firebird619 . gonna see this xfce thing [23:41] i modified X11Forwading to YES [23:41] tank-man, yes , i am on local [23:41] antler: are you using xfce 4.6? [23:42] i 'am using xfce [23:42] ok, once loged it did you try running a gui app ? [23:42] yes, i tried ! [23:42] xeyes for examle [23:42] example* [23:42] and it started? [23:43] no [23:43] firebird619: 4.4.3 [23:43] was there a error message? [23:43] yes, i 'm using 4.4.3 [23:44] The only thing i miss from 4.4.x was the way you could move windows around with the keyboard. The behavior is slightly different in 4.6 [23:44] antler: Ah, ok. I was just wondering. [23:44] when i do sh -X login@ip, i have no error message, but when i run a X programm, nothing comes good [23:44] hiptobecubic: know of a way to make it so that when dragging and dropping folders, say from the desktop to a folder, it moves as opposed to copies? [23:45] error cant open display [23:45] this is what i got ! [23:45] i runned xeyes program [23:45] paissad, maybe you have to modify your $DISPLAY environment variable [23:45] export DISPLAY:0 ? [23:45] firebird619, haven't tried, no idea. [23:46] firebird619: hahah brb... kde [23:46] paissad, export DISPLAY=:0.0 perhaps? [23:46] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:46] paissad, something like that but you need an ip i think [23:46] hiptobecubic: k, thanks. [23:46] inspiron630 (n=aldskfj@c-69-140-223-165.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: [23:46] tank-man, no i don't think you do. ssh handles that for you [23:46] hiptobecubic: eh, antler isn't a xfce convert. :( [23:46] tank-man, i try, :-( [23:46] actually if X11 forwarding is working correctly with ssh, you do NOT alter the $DISPLAY variable [23:47] well there you have it [23:47] 63,000 bugs in the code, 63,000 bugs, ya get 1 whacked with a service pack, now there's 63,005 bugs in the code!! [23:47] btw, when i do env | grep -i display [23:47] i have nothing ! [23:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:48] Later guys, it's storming again. :( [23:48] ok [23:48] bye [23:48] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:49] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:49] is that normal i have no environnment variable DISLPLAY [23:49] i do not think so [23:49] in the ssh session? [23:49] yes ! [23:49] then yes [23:49] oh in ssh session then yes [23:49] ok ! [23:49] it's normal if the server doesn't have X11 forwarding enabled [23:50] i modified /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make X11Forwading to YES [23:50] i restarted sshd daemon ! [23:50] did you /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd restart afterwards? [23:50] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "-.-. -.-- .-" [23:50] Urchlay, yes, i did [23:50] Are you giving -X or -Y to ssh? [23:51] -X [23:51] eh, don't be insulted if this sounds dumb, but: you did this on the server, not the client, right? [23:51] man [23:51] nothing better than sitting back, rewinding and changing dns to 40 porn sites [23:51] oh, listening to yanni [23:51] You poor thing. [23:51] i did it on the client, not the server yet ! [23:52] paissad: sshd_config isn't even read by the client [23:52] you have to do it on the server [23:52] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:52] but whe i loggued with ssh, i modified the sshd_config of the server too ! [23:52] and restarted sshd on the server? [23:52] so i would say that i did it for both client and serverr [23:53] oh damn it .. i don't think i restarted for both client and server ! [23:53] let me check, soryy :-) [23:56] oh, it works now, thanks a lot, i just did not retarted sshd daemon of the server ! [23:56] silly :) [23:56] you have to understand how client/server stuff works... [23:57] the daemon doesn't have to be running on the client at all, for it to just be a client. So sshd_config on the client has absolutely no effect [23:57] (unless, of course, you're testing it with "ssh localhost") [23:58] Urchlay, ok, i understant well now [23:58] understand* [23:58] it's the fisrt time i use ssh [23:58] cool [23:59] yeah, cool :-) [23:59] just don't try to play Quake over a forwarded X11 session :) [00:00] --- Mon Jun 8 2009