[00:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.203) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:01] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Install is finished, but X won't start. xorgsetup also thinks I have a multihead setup for some reason, idk if that could be the issue. Fatal server error: no screens found [00:03] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:03] install of what? [00:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [00:03] 13.0 [00:04] did you try w/o any xorgsetup? the X on 13.0 is scary smart.. [00:04] I tried deleteing xorg.conf and I still get the same error. [00:05] that's important...can you pastebin Xorg.0.log [00:06] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:07] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.32.122) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:08] hrmmm. Not sure how I would. I have absolutely nothing installed here. lol [00:08] how do you irc? [00:08] on my arch install. different machine [00:09] no lan connection arch to slack? [00:09] or a flash drive to save the logfile/ [00:09] yeah, hang on [00:09] heh, use your imaginification! [00:09] oh yay, ssh is running [00:15] http://pastebin.org/314480 <-- srry if thats fucked up, blame nano/my copypaste skills [00:16] there is an xorg.conf being used in that pastebin! [00:17] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] your xorg.conf is fubar, don't use it: (EE) intel(0): Output LVDS enabled but has no modes [00:18] much moar better for me is the logfile with no xorg.conf. also pastebin.com (not .org) has prettier output (easier on the eyes) [00:19] is there a nvidia native support in slackware 13.1 or should i download it from nvidia.com yet? [00:19] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.32.122) joined ##slackware. [00:20] mancha: fair enough, standby [00:21] also add the output from lspci -v (can be same pastebin) [00:21] mancha: I have xorg.conf-vesa as well, think I should try that one? [00:21] that'll just use the vesa driver which is inferior. try with no xorg.conf (for your own testing you can try the vesa one) [00:21] ok [00:24] mancha: running startx without a xorg.conf still gives me the same intel errors :/ [00:25] ok - that is important then. i will now ask you to play a game... [00:25] Whoa wtfffffffffffffffff wait a second [00:25] for giggles I did the following: [00:25] made a copy of xorg.conf-vesa and named it xorg.conf [00:26] It is now attempting to boot Arch, which is no longer installed lol [00:26] and then fluxbux starts up after a while [00:26] hahahahahahahahaha [00:26] that's just a ghost image stuck in video ram, it's not trying to boot arch [00:26] :) [00:26] hlysht [00:26] bricks = shat [00:27] does flux actually start up? [00:27] ok, so VESA works at least, albeit with some crazy flicker [00:27] yes [00:27] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:27] anyways, back to the game i want you to play...get your 13.0 media out (or dl from your favorite mirror) the alternative intel drivers in /extra/xf86-video-intel-alternate [00:28] is there a nvidia native support in slackware 13.1 or should i download it from nvidia.com yet? [00:28] one by one, upgradepkg to that driver and startx (no xorg.conf for this game) [00:28] mancha: you know what, I remember doing that way back when I did this [00:28] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.7.24) joined ##slackware. [00:28] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [00:28] from nvidia.com, hamcore [00:28] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] ok, shonudo, thanks. [00:29] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] mancha: trying 2.8.1 I guess. Can't remember what I used before. [00:31] hmm that one flashes pink and then gives me a black screen. Not it I guess, haha. [00:31] oh wait, there it goes. [00:31] we're in business I think, thanks mancha [00:32] good deal. [00:32] gonna try some others though, that one has a lot of weird artifacts and whatnot going on when I move a window around [00:33] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.27.26) joined ##slackware. [00:34] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:34] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [00:36] 2.7.1 seems to work. Should I just continue to run without an xorg.conf or run xorgsetup again? [00:37] if it works and you don't have a special setup, then I'd say leave it alone [00:37] 13's X autoconfigures, and does so quite smartly...if something is not right then go in and tweak with a .conf [00:38] darkrho (~rolando@190.107.32.122) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:38] has anyone had it work with a multiple-monitor setup? [00:38] ok then [00:38] shonudo, I'm on 13.0 but getting ready to upgrade the laptop to 13.1 [00:38] 13 w/ multiple monitors? [00:39] and no xorg.conf? [00:40] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:40] X is taking a loooooong time starting up. [00:40] shonudo, I used an xorg.conf since I had a layout setup that I wanted to change from default [00:40] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [00:40] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) joined ##slackware. [00:41] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:41] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] found Slackware 13.1 torrent from Kickass torrents.... [00:41] kickass! [00:41] (couldn't help it) [00:42] heh, the /topic here also has it [00:42] wtf constant mylife.com spam [00:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:43] this does not work: http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-13.1-install-dvd.torrent [00:43] pics or it didn't happen [00:43] this works: http://www.kickasstorrents.com/slackware-linux-13-1-x86-dvd-iso-t4103907.html [00:43] hamcore (rhythm@unaffiliated/hamcore) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] alisonken1noc: so with this "conf-less" xorg, do you just write the 'screen, device, etc' stuff for the monitor layout (like a really short xorg.conf)? [00:45] or do you import an old (and complete) xorg.conf file from a previous version/install? [00:46] used "xorg -config" then changed driver to ati proprietary, then added screen layout section for the monitors so the dvi is on left and vga on right [00:46] got it! [00:46] nice [00:46] so it wasn't a recycled xorg.conf, but a basic xorg.conf with minor mods [00:46] yeah, the layout on mine would need configuring as well [00:47] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/vWM0IM86.html [00:48] thanks, alisonken1noc -- that's a really helpful guide [00:48] any ideas why it takes a little over a minute to go from typing startx to fluxbox showing up? Never had this problem before. [00:48] hmm - just noticed it's using the radeon driver. thought radeon was built-in [00:49] radeon/ati same thing [00:49] one's the alias of the other [00:49] hamcore (rhythm@unaffiliated/hamcore) joined ##slackware. [00:49] mancha, interesting. I thought the ati proprietary was named something else [00:49] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("We were always meant to say goodbye..."). [00:49] fglrx is the proprietary [00:50] radeon/ati are two names for the same FOSS driver [00:50] oh, i missed where you said you were using the proprietary driver [00:50] DylanJ (dylan@unaffiliated/dylanj) joined ##slackware. [00:50] (or thought you were using) :) [00:51] shonudo, ok - there it is, then. I just use the xorg.conf to ensure layout then :) [00:52] mancha, I _thought_ I was using proprietary :O my xorg.conf tells me otherwise [00:52] makes sense -- similar to what i added to the old xorg.conf to get an nvidia 3-monitor setup working [00:53] when i first heard about the configuration-free setup for xorg, i was wondering what it would take [00:53] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] iceheart (hello@120.195.175.6) joined ##slackware. [00:54] config-free is good for single monitor setup. for multimonitor setup, try without an xorg.conf, but tweak as needed [00:54] that's what I usually do [00:55] i doubt it will ID the setup on its own -- for whatever reason, 3 or more monitors on nvidia is a pita [00:55] two is easy [00:56] true [00:56] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:56] then there was the guy that was selling a 4-way (35"x4) setup on ebay :) [00:56] (I think it was 35" monitors - been a while) [00:57] surround vision... that would be a bit much [00:57] reminds me of playing d3 on a six-monitor rig some guy cobbled together [00:57] too much [00:58] i'm just waiting for a usb-45 compliant device with electrodes that plug directly into your cortex for video [00:58] lol [01:01] i have a GeForce2 MX/MX 400 but can't find it driver on nvidia.com, what driver should i use? [01:02] it's 400 series [01:02] which model, exactly? [01:03] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [01:03] gtx 480? [01:03] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-195.36.24.html [01:03] try that [01:03] check "supported products" [01:03] GeForce 200 series: [01:04] GT 240, GTX 285, GT 220, GTX 275, 210, GTX 260, GTX 295, GT 230, G210, GTS 240, GTX 280, GTS 250, 205 [01:04] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D4CF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] no, it's not. [01:05] the driver posted in that link should cover the 200 series [01:05] covers quite a few GPUs [01:06] http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce2mx.html [01:07] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:07] i'll use --update on last version i have on my slackware [01:08] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_96.43.16.html [01:08] Downloading: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.24-pkg1.run [01:08] hm. [01:08] try that, hamcore [01:08] that's it, thanks shonudo. [01:08] np [01:09] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.131) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:09] hmm anybody using 2d accel in virtualbox? i'm wondering where the options are for it [01:09] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.131) joined ##slackware. [01:12] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:16] what are you running in vbox? [01:17] 2d is for windows only. [01:19] taopunk (~taopunk@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:20] i got it...i didn't realize i had to shutdown the VM to change the settings for it [01:20] found the display settings [01:21] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:21] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:22] kingbeowulf (~beowulf@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:29] kingbeowulf (~beowulf@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:31] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] in case anyone has a Visioneer 7100 USB scanner: it now works automagically in slack64 13.1 [01:33] whoo hoo [01:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:39] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:40] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:41] Hi, I know this is probabbly a stupid question BUT... How do I install KDE? I installed 13.1 without KDE or X packages selected and now I want to install them. I ran "slackpkg install kde" let it do it's thing but startx is not a recognized command :-\ I think I missed something stupid but i'm half awake so anything is possible heh [01:41] install xorg [01:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:42] slackpkg install x [01:43] slackpkg install xap [01:43] try both [01:43] aight [01:43] both won't install xorg [01:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:45] no - x installs xorg, xap installs the extra X apps [01:45] at least my understanding is slackpkg install x tells slacpkg to install the x series, not just xorg [01:45] there is also the install-packages script, you can just go in to the x xap and kde directories and run that [01:46] assuming you have the media mounted or have it mirrored locally [01:47] i agree. best to go to the dvd (or cd) /x /xap/ and /kde and install everything from their [01:47] why doesnt slackware include gnome on the media now? [01:47] gnome sucks [01:47] http://gnomeslackbuild.org [01:47] its not included because in your opinion it sucks? [01:47] i was just wondering what prompted it to be removed [01:48] ty hamcore [01:48] my opinion. PV removed it due to complexity to maintain and build IIRC [01:48] np [01:49] http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/28/009237 [01:49] dont get me wrong i like kde but i also enjoy gnome at times [01:49] try Xfce. [01:49] sort of gnomish without the overhead [01:50] screen shots of it look nice [01:50] better yet, try useing Fluxbox or Xfce [01:50] is it true that fluxbox doesn't work with hal? [01:52] wcd6 (~wcd6@201.253.138.195) joined ##slackware. [01:54] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-10.2/ChangeLog.txt - search for "gnome/*:" to see what is said about its removal [01:54] beats me. try linuxquestions.org [01:55] hamcore: fluxbox works. hal works. fluxbox does not use hal. [01:55] :) [01:55] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: So...tired.... [01:55] You can possibly use halevt + pmount to do stuff while in fluxbox. [01:55] rworkman so xorg.conf works for fluxbox? [01:55] whoa, huh? [01:55] stupid question. [01:56] a guy told me to disable hal to use fluxbox [01:56] or to enable devices within fluxbox startup [01:56] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Ohh, I see what you're asking. [01:56] hamcore, fluxbox is a window manager, xorg is the gui foundation [01:56] You want hal enabled for Xorg to get input devices. [01:56] fluxbox itself doesn't use hal, but Xorg *does* [01:57] when i startx, keyboard and mouse doesn't work. [01:57] That reminds me; I need to get started looking more heavily at xorg-server-1.8.x [01:57] hamcore: You need hal for that, or you need to read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT for info on running X without hal. [01:58] i already did a copy from /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi and changed my keyboard layout [01:58] hamcore, and you have hal running? [01:58] yeap. [01:59] Doesn't sound like it. [01:59] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [02:00] i'll try it again, goin back some sleep, be back later, cheers. [02:00] s/back/get/ [02:00] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:00] slackytude|evil (~slacky@g227026029.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [02:03] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] trhodes, ty for that link. That explains it all [02:04] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:04] jeremym: you're welcome [02:06] it worked thanks :) [02:07] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) joined ##slackware. [02:09] taopunk (~taopunk@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] in my crontab, if I do '@hourly /foo/bar' , does that run the command every hour ? [02:13] no [02:13] ah [02:13] thats probably my problem then [02:14] See crontab(1) [02:14] pnq (asdf@AC82CBD2.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:17] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.27.26) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [02:17] slackytude|evil (~slacky@g227026029.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:20] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [02:22] hmm. that's interesting. at certain times i've had issues with the keyboard and mouse under blackbox on my alpha port. wonder if that's a hal thing perhaps [02:22] wcd6 (wcd6@201.253.138.195) left ##slackware. [02:22] thanks rworkman [02:25] to use hal you need a hal aware file manager [02:25] or pmount to mount stuff manually in cli [02:28] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:28] any ideas why when I install wicd from slackpkg 13.1 and I startx I get a dialog of all boxes and then I can't use the "K" menu nor get to anything but when I remove wicd everything goes back to normal? [02:29] tavl_ (~tavl@189.70.250.229) joined ##slackware. [02:29] tavl_ (~tavl@189.70.250.229) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:30] only installing it causes that? is it actually running? [02:30] ang: only installing it is causing it, yes [02:30] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:30] as soon as I install it i get the dialog of all boxes [02:30] iceheart (hello@120.195.175.6) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:31] i remove it KDE works fine [02:31] redxj (hello@120.195.175.6) joined ##slackware. [02:31] bizarre [02:31] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:31] TehRabbitt, can you post a pic? [02:32] http://tinypic.com/ [02:32] hold on... [02:33] rworkman: anything we should pay special attention to when updating slackbuild packages? The site sorta hinted at changes but didn't say what exactly. [02:34] it's gonna be one minute... can't take a screenshot but I used my camera phone [02:34] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.59.38) joined ##slackware. [02:35] redxj (hello@120.195.175.6) left irc: Client Quit [02:36] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:37] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] http://lh4.ggpht.com/_M9G8TMVNfyE/TAyS8ybMASI/AAAAAAAAAAU/W66bBqr_Rgc/s912/2010-06-07%2002.31.59.jpg [02:38] thats the first pic [02:38] http://lh3.ggpht.com/_M9G8TMVNfyE/TAyTKGciDII/AAAAAAAAAA4/JfjkMsd18W0/s912/2010-06-07%2002.31.52.jpg [02:38] that's the 2nd [02:39] You trying to use a language other than english? [02:39] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:40] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-162.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] LSD: nope afaik it's english or that's what I selected... [02:41] all i know is i have NO functinality of KDE cept that i can click "[][]" button and the dialog goes away then it does nothing... can move the mouse but can't click anything [02:41] i break out of X, Ctrl-C and then slackpkg remove wicd and KDE works great [02:42] Hmm, OK, it looked as though you were trying to use a unicode language without unicode support working properly [02:43] LSD: would that prevent the K menu from displaying? [02:43] I wonder if wicd installs something that isn't supported [02:43] TehRabbitt: Was the text there (and everywhere else) fine, it's just that error box that's coming up wrong? That wasn't obvious in your pics... [02:44] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? [02:45] LSD`: that's the thing, that's the only box that I can manipulate after wicd is installed... I can't open anything else... right click works fine though on the desktop / everything is shown in english, just no K menu or task bar [02:46] the K menu works before I click the "[][]" button but as soon as I click it, the screen flashes once, then no functionality [02:50] TehRabbitt, wicd is a python script, so it uses the gtk widget set rather than the qt widget set - possibly unicode support is not there in the gtk libs you have setup? [02:51] how does it look when you open a terminal and run wicd-curses? [02:52] can't even do that [02:53] did you restart X? [02:54] -- will usually kill X and get you back to login prompt [02:54] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:56] just takes me back to terminal... [02:56] as soon as x restarts, i get the box prompt again [02:57] terminal is all boxes as well 0_o [02:57] terminal within kde [02:58] ok - kill X again, then uninstall wicd, then see what happens [02:59] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [03:01] same thing, all boxes :-\ [03:01] but it's not locking up anymore [03:01] i can use the K menu [03:02] ok - still looks like you have a language problem and the language fonts are not installed [03:02] did you install kdei ? [03:03] kdei? [03:03] no [03:03] installing it now [03:03] might try installing kdei package and see what language kde comes up in [03:03] hm lol [03:04] what if it's a language I don't understand haha [03:04] tell me about it :) had that happen several times [03:04] chendy (~chatzilla@204.152.211.137) joined ##slackware. [03:08] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:08] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-162.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:13] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] edthix (~ed@175.144.228.85) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:13] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:15] SiegeX: just model them after the new templates [03:16] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:18] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:19] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [03:22] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-116-145.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:24] rworkman, new templates on sbo now? [03:24] brainvision (~brainvisi@host117-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:24] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:25] alisonken1noc: yep, http://slackbuilds.org/templates/ [03:25] thanks [03:25] np [03:26] rworkman i noticed today that the changelog started afresh with the release of 13.1. it's a shame to lose the history, why not just keep adding instead? [03:26] SBo changelog (sorry for not specifying) [03:26] because it's with 13.1 - current is a new build cycle [03:26] changelog reflects changes from packages.txt file starting with the new -current [03:27] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:27] same pattern as slackware [03:27] johndee (~id@95-29-190-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:27] howdy [03:28] mancha: http://slackbuilds.org/gitweb/?p=slackbuilds.git;a=blob;f=ChangeLog.txt;h=b6a6b83057c346e83b39f5d7954523c391a49fe0;hb=5c2d556a3b2e9732c6a1700ba22bb7a8c22aa4bb [03:29] mancha: the "old" ones are available in the relevant git branches [03:29] elench (~insula@b4mad.info) joined ##slackware. [03:29] Nick change: elench -> Guest79778 [03:29] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/ChangeLog.txt [03:29] or there ^ [03:29] Nick change: Guest79778 -> nickstolen [03:30] rworkman, aha great, so it's not lost :) [03:30] john_dee (~id@95-29-190-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:30] nope - changelog stays with the version it was started with [03:30] nope :) [03:31] rwork, i also noticed (with much joy) the move to git [03:31] i think that's brillian [03:31] *brilliant [03:32] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:32] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [03:32] hey guys [03:32] still all boxes.... [03:32] :-\ [03:32] say is there some sort of passphrase support for wireless in the kernel, because when I run wicd and put in my password it comes back saying bad password and won't validate and I'm giving it the correct password [03:33] you will need the encryption modules for wep/wpa... [03:33] this should be in your default kernel though so the question is a bit surprising to me... [03:34] but that's obvious [03:34] I'm compiling my kernel [03:34] aha! then you need to make sure you configure it with the needed wep and wpa support [03:34] Xgates, for wpa especially, you need to tell it to use wpa-supplicant [03:35] if you have to ask though....might wanna reconsider rolling your own kernels :) [03:35] any ideas on why i'm still seeing [][][][][] boxes? [03:35] even as modules (talking of kernel's modules) [03:35] TehRabbitt: ? [03:35] TehRabbitt, did you reboot? [03:36] also - look at /etc/lilo.conf at the "append=" line and see if it's telling the kernel to use utf8 or something [03:36] mancha: thanks, where in the kernel is this, do you know? [03:36] Xgates: [03:37] hte last option [03:37] from the main page [03:37] ok [03:37] one of the last [03:37] :) [03:37] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:37] just a curiosity.. [03:37] alisonken1noc: I have it using wext [03:37] what is the the smallest kernel [03:37] compiled by somebody in a full desktop [03:38] with camera, audio, internet and all standard features? [03:38] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:38] I actually have a kernel that sizes 1,6 MB.. [03:39] The last option on the main page is Library Routines, that's not it [03:39] and I choose to compile it in the old way: what is fundamental is signed as * [03:39] alisonken1noc: nope didn't reboot... [03:39] what is optiona, but still important (camera, audio, video) are modules.. [03:39] gar0t0: [03:39] Xgates: [03:40] one of lasts [03:40] :) [03:40] I said [03:40] well I thought it was in the Cryptographic API but not seeing it there too [03:40] looks like the append line was using the UTF8 [03:40] why not? [03:40] it's there [03:41] TehRabbitt, change "vt.default_utf8=0", rerun lilo, reboot then see what it looks like [03:41] Still guessing that kdm is set to some language other than english [03:42] so, can yopu please tell me the sioze of your kernel? [03:42] for who compile it by himself [03:42] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:42] TehRabbitt, my guess would be "Arabic (ar)" since that's the first selection in the kdm login manager setup [03:43] lol 0_o [03:43] Xgates sorry was away, you wanna go into networking support->wireless [03:43] and make sure you have the 80211 stuff [03:43] gave me a whole bunch of warnings on boot but so far so good it's booting lol [03:43] oh really? [03:44] mancha: not in the cryptographic api? [03:44] I thought it was here.. [03:44] there* [03:45] 0_o english [03:45] i'm installing wicd now to see the error what it says [03:45] brain, i think he wants the ieee 80211 routines (tkip stack, etc) [03:46] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:46] mancha: but he needs to add the support for various cryptographic modules, doesn't him? [03:46] also, not only [03:46] :) [03:46] ok mancha [03:46] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-43-45.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] hello [03:47] "Unable to contact the Wicd daemon due to an access denied error from DBus. Please check that your user is in the netdev group 0_o lol ohhh [03:47] hi.. [03:47] Tec [03:47] TehRabbitt: [03:47] you have recompiled the kernel? [03:47] nope [03:47] in 5 minutes you did all? [03:47] ah.. [03:47] TehRabbitt, yep - you didn't add yourself to the netdev group and relogin [03:47] sorry [03:48] alisonken1noc: to me it was automaticx [03:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:48] ok isn't that just AEC and ARC4 for WPA2? [03:48] lol its ok i'm like half awake and writing a paper on "why do we dream" while doing this haha multitasking 0_o as usual [03:48] AES [03:48] yeah I have AES in the kernel [03:48] I too [03:49] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:49] boyz [03:49] a little question [03:49] it's not so important but ity's a boring thing.. [03:50] rworkman, do you know a bit about the cairo history? we were not sure earlier if pat had a good reason to keep xcb off of the cairo compile... [03:50] I don't have any flkoppy disk but in my thunar file manager and in the devices list it appears the floppy disk [03:50] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:50] anyone use icewm? [03:50] I try to remove my account from the floppy group but it doesn't work [03:51] what I ahve to do to solve this boring situation? [03:51] have* [03:51] thunar on the left hand side shows a floppy? [03:51] floppy may be built-in to the thunar filemanager [03:51] yea [03:51] yeah [03:51] just part of it [03:51] mancha: [03:51] but not only thuinar.. [03:51] brain, ok it should not... [03:51] some thumbdrives I believe some fm's still use floppy as the icon [03:51] thunar [03:51] but I don't know thunar [03:52] brain if you click it what happens? [03:52] nothing :) [03:52] it waits 2 seconds looking for it [03:52] it gets a gray bar and the rigth side is empty? [03:53] ok i'm in netdev now and it's still nto working, yes i loged out and back in again :-\ [03:53] the problòem is not a thunar problem [03:53] no-name (~no-name@243.252.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:53] cause for example if I want to save an image with gimp [03:53] it appears here too.. [03:54] mancha: this is all I don't have compiled in the Wireless section, 'n180211 testmode command', 'enable developer warnings', cfg80211 regulatory debugging', 'cfg80211 DebugFS entries'. 'lib80211 debugging messages', 'Enable mac80211 mesh networking', 'Export mac80211 Internals in DebugFS', 'Select mac80211 debugging features'. Again this is what I don't have, is all ... [03:54] ... [03:54] ok, something scewey then...some persisent rule somewhere? [03:54] mancha: the xcb backend is still marked as "unstable" by upstream cairo [03:54] Xgates, what does CONFIG_LIB80211_CRYPT_CCMP have in your .config ? [03:55] any ideas? :-\ i'm a member of netdev yet it still can't connect [03:55] Action: Xgates looks [03:55] rworkman, oh wow. i didn't realize it was considered unstable. ok, that would be consitent with his life view then [03:56] mancha: there isn't anything listed as this in my .config [03:56] I guess if it's need something I don't have has this not enabled [03:57] yes, you need the ieee80211 extensions [03:57] do you not even have that marked as "not set" ? [03:57] TehRabbitt, is wicd running? /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start and see what it says [03:58] TehRabbitt, and you _did_ logout then relogin after adding yourself to netdev group, correct? [03:58] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:58] If you mean the 'CONFIG_LIB80211' I have that as a M [03:58] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:58] ok thats good. [03:59] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [03:59] that's Common routines for ieee80211.11 drivers I got that [03:59] xgates ok and then you have support for your specific chipset right? [03:59] alisonken1noc: I just even manually added my username into /etc/groups onto netdev and loged out / in, same error :( [04:00] mancha: as I showed you above those are the only ones I don't have in the wireless [04:00] TehRabbitt, and is wicd running? [04:00] so that should be good yea? [04:00] the daemon, not the client that you're trying to use [04:00] i mean in device drivers->net device-> wireless [04:00] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [04:01] alisonken1home i'm not sure if it's started [04:01] TehRabbitt, as root: /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [04:01] warmana (~quassel@nat/ibm/x-nsvoyuhzvbcgtqgz) joined ##slackware. [04:01] yep it's already running [04:02] restarted it... now i get a new error when i start x.... [04:03] do you have "Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)" checked? [04:03] mancha: say under Special HID Devices it shows all these force feedback drivers with -M- as set, you know how to get rid of those? [04:03] "The application KWin crashed and caused the signal 11(SIGSEGV) please file a bug report" [04:03] :( lol [04:03] mancha: me yeah I have the mac80211 as a mod [04:04] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:04] and now i can't use the K menu... again 0_o lol [04:04] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [04:04] any way to get rid of these special hid devices? [04:05] the mac stack selects the needed crypto stuff [04:06] it's going to be too hard to get you from where you are to compiling a good kernel over irc with the level of effort i am willing to put into it :/ [04:06] i suggest you hit the online documentation [04:06] among other places [04:07] yep this sucks... KDE keeps crashing, no wifi at all... sighh this laptop is a nightmare [04:07] ok on the crypto stuff [04:08] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:09] mancha: me LOL, I've been compiling kernels since 2.2x it's just that it's been awhile since I've compiled anything under 2.6.x, no worries I just thought I'd ask if you know what kept those dang pesky force feedback controllers locked in [04:09] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:09] anyone use icewm [04:09] ? [04:09] oops [04:09] I asked that already [04:09] of course you can remove the Full HID support but then I use a usb mouse and then it won't work [04:09] y'all are busy [04:09] no, just noone uses icewm [04:09] indub, i think the silence means no one does.. [04:09] icewm hehe I used that going back a few years ago [04:09] hah [04:10] ask again ina bit when others are around [04:10] any ideas how to make this machine not crash out every time i type startx? lol [04:10] heres an idea, ask in #icewm [04:10] I'm wantin' to switch to something tiling, but icewm's grown on me [04:10] if you want something like icwem use LXDE [04:10] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:10] indubitableness if not just ask the actual question, those fare better than meta-questions [04:10] sahko lol [04:11] meta-question: anyone use $XYZ? anyone good with $PQD? etc [04:11] i also get some akonadi error that it's not registerd at DBUS as well [04:11] Oh I'm just ramblin' mancha [04:11] I'll not do it too much y'all seem to be gettin' work done [04:12] TehRabbitt, sounds like you need to do a full reinstall or something [04:12] sounds like to much KDE crap crappin... [04:13] xfce rules! [04:13] :D [04:13] openbox for me :) [04:13] alisonken1noc: this is the 2nd full reinstall tonight to fix this exact same issue :-\ [04:13] icewm FTW! [04:13] heh [04:13] the lighter the better and damm I wish the blackbox development didn't die [04:13] been working on this since 7PM it's now 4AM lol [04:13] Got a friend wrote matwm [04:13] he jokes that icewm is bloatware [04:14] compared to matwm [04:14] matwm not sure I heard that one [04:14] It's not that popular [04:14] it's more popular than I first suspected though [04:14] I thought it was just him and a few of his chat friends [04:14] indubitableness: tell him to beat http://incise.org/tinywm.html [04:14] but there's some people packaging it for different distros [04:15] http://squidjam.com/matwm/ [04:15] oh that's nice [04:16] indubitableness: gotta love reddit ;-) [04:16] hah [04:16] amen [04:16] you found that on reddit? [04:16] http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/cc756/best_lightish_linux_distro/ ;-) [04:16] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:16] thanks [04:17] shiiit I'm in that thread [04:17] of course, arch gets tons of upvotes while it's probably not lighter than slackware ;-) [04:17] yeah man [04:17] I dunno I think it's too light to start off with [04:17] then people bulk it up [04:18] plus dependency checking is overrated [04:18] adrien: why is 11.0 golden? [04:18] I found Arch to be to much setting up, kind felt like doing the gentoo thing, a bit pointless [04:18] tuvok302 (tuvok302@clgrtnt7-port-231.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [04:18] razzzat (1000@59.95.164.189) joined ##slackware. [04:18] error checking always managed to fuck up my day [04:18] I think it's better to have a distro like slack set up some basic things [04:18] one way or another [04:18] yeah [04:18] I want dev stuff out of box [04:18] sahko: works very well, for older hardware it'll be nice and rumor has it that there might be a 11.1 :P [04:18] indubitableness: same here, I *need* compilers, libs, headers... [04:19] I can't believe that Arch got higher rankings on Distrowatch too [04:19] we need to start getting some Slackers to start hitting that button [04:19] LOL [04:19] And I hate how they break up packages into different stuff. such and such-dev, such and such-lib [04:19] ah ok mostly agree. its also hal-less. iirc hal was introduced in 12.0 [04:19] wine's like 46 packages on fedora [04:19] 46 LOL really? [04:19] that's nutts [04:19] Xgates: bah, pretty easy: there was a reddit thread a few days ago: "Q: How do you know someone is running arch? A: You didn't ask him anything but he told you." ;-) [04:19] right [04:19] hah [04:19] that was a good one [04:20] adrien: lol [04:20] I always troll r/linux [04:20] I can't fuckin' help myself [04:20] it's too easy to get a reaction [04:20] true ;-) [04:20] I had to leave r/politics and r/marijuana because I would troll people without trying to [04:20] like I'd just say something [04:20] hey I ran Gentoo in the day when it was just building from source, I remember it took me like 12-18 hours to compile it and get on the desktop with X running talk about NUTTS! [04:20] and ten people be on you [04:20] Morn [04:21] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:21] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:21] Gentoo is an experience [04:21] morning Zordrak, good weekend? [04:21] I'd like to put slackware's pkgtools on ttylinux [04:21] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:21] indubitableness: yeah, a bit annoying, they fire off easily and then you're stuck in the middle of a debate about the semantics of your message >< [04:21] hi Zordrak [04:21] Well I did it good I had it down to a science, I even have some cmds for redoing it from a stage in case you hose it and just get it going from there [04:21] phrag: not too bad.. relaxing with the missus mostly which is very enjoyable. You+? [04:21] nice [04:22] I should try gentoo in a VM on my quad =) [04:22] I wonder did they ever get the cruft mess figured out? [04:22] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Jennifur (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:22] wouldn't even know [04:22] I use to have a script to keep it cleaned out [04:23] man I got rsync actin' like a little bitch [04:23] tryin' to filter by time stamps [04:23] using find -ctime [04:24] Jennifur (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] I'ma play some half life and figure that out later [04:26] am I disconnect? [04:26] CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? :) [04:26] k [04:27] been havin' some connectivity issues 'cause by my own ignorance of networking technology [04:29] alisonken1noc: say something? [04:30] Zordrak: same, had a good weekend on call, just one ping on slave lag sunday morning =) [04:30] Yeah.. work always gets in the way. Had to spend some time working on the backup system on Monday. [04:31] phrag, something? [04:32] Quote Of The Day: Don't Drink And Use The CLI Boys & Girls, rm -rf / Could Ruin Your Day [04:33] ok - laptop is now 13.1. time to see how much it takes to get it ready for work [04:33] friends don't let friends drink & CLI [04:34] i do my best work then! [04:34] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:35] phrag: I still havent got SP2 onto the vista image yet [04:35] thats been two working days now :) [04:35] Plazma (~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma) left irc: Ping timeout: 600 seconds [04:36] Delahunt: lol [04:36] Zordrak: i razed my GF laptop and put win7 on + a *lot* of software.. she was running vista so is very happy.. [04:36] Plazma (~Plazma@freenode/staff/plazma) joined ##slackware. [04:37] i may have left a blank partition when i carved it up for *future* use [04:37] win7 is so much better then Vista [04:37] *slackware* COUGH [04:37] =P [04:37] phrag: *nod* :) [04:37] razzzat (1000@59.95.164.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:37] one night when she's asleep i'll serupticiously install slack on it =P [04:38] once she goes slack she'll never.... [04:38] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:39] mancha, as long as _he_ doesn't go slack, _she_ should be ok :) [04:39] you never know with phrag, you'e right! [04:39] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:40] Nick change: chendy -> im65KG [04:42] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [04:43] sucks - we bought 30 thumbdrives to reimage machines here in the noc, and can't find one in the office anywhere [04:43] darn I'm still missing something in the kernel for wpa2 encryption/passwords [04:43] ha, check peoples pockets [04:43] wicd still fails bad password [04:44] errrrrrrrrrrr [04:44] sure correct authentication method? [04:44] phrag, slight problem - I'm by myself on g/y :) [04:44] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:44] gichity (~chatzilla@196.207.24.164) joined ##slackware. [04:45] well in my router I use wpa2-psk [aes] and on wicd I have it on wpa 1/2 passphrase [04:45] and if anyone leaves their pants here in the noc, I _don't_ plan on searching them [04:45] alienBOB: ++ on kde 4.4.4 ! [04:46] phrag: is it worth it? [04:46] dunno, i do like shiny kde [04:46] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:46] =P [04:47] o/ Delahunt [04:49] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [04:49] thanx [04:51] anyone know besides aes cipher what else wifi needs for passhrase validation? [04:53] slack kernel has a lot of crypto stuff enabled [04:54] in Slack do we need to edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf? [04:54] you do [04:55] Xgates, depends on what wpa you use - aes is only wpa2-aes [04:55] hmm I thought wicd would write to it [04:55] I use wpa2-aes [04:55] and you told wicd to use wpa-aes when setting up the link for that ap [04:55] ? [04:56] is there ftp or rsync/anything other than http for alienBOB's packages? [04:56] rsync I think [04:56] I picked wpa 1/2 passphrase [04:56] you can use wpa_gui to configure it, but you need to add a line to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf if you do to let it save changes [04:57] well I'm trying to figure out if I need to edit it at all or I'm just missing a cyrpto option in the kernel is all [04:58] brb [04:58] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [04:58] bzzz (~user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [04:59] anyone to help me? [04:59] http://img694.imageshack.us/f/20147482.png/ [05:02] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) joined ##slackware. [05:03] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:03] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [05:04] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-43-45.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:04] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:04] this is what's in my kernel for cyrpto: http://pastebin.com/9hTnvyhv [05:05] maybe someone can tell me if I'm missing something... [05:05] fred: rsync://alien.slackbook.org/alien-kde/4.4.4/ [05:05] Jennifur (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:08] thanks :) though, fwiw, "alien-kde/" isn't listed by rsync://alien.slackbook.org/ [05:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.131) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:11] sent 7642 bytes received 627775728 bytes 5083266.15 bytes/sec [05:11] upgrade time :D [05:12] mac-_ (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:12] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:13] fred: listed now. alienBOB: if you don't want that, tell me and I'll revert it [05:17] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:17] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [05:18] Xenius[xchat] (~Xenius@81.18.126.63) joined ##slackware. [05:18] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [05:18] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:19] could someone please be kind and check that pastebin URL and tell me if I'm missing anything for wpa/wep passphrase [05:19] wicd complains I have a bad password when I don't so I'm missing something in the kernel [05:19] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:20] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:22] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [05:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:23] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:24] Femaq (~Femaq@193.219.42.119) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Xgates, is your SSID hidden? [05:28] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Femaq (~Femaq@193.219.42.119) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:34] john_dee: in wicd I can see it [05:34] Xgates: Is it hidden or not? [05:34] hidden where in the router no it's not [05:35] it's broadcast [05:35] I can see it [05:35] Aldaron (1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left ##slackware. [05:36] Xgates: I also get bad password if it's not broadcasted. If it is, wicd connect in an instant. wpa_supplicant started by hand connects too. [05:36] gichity (chatzilla@196.207.24.164) left ##slackware. [05:37] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Xgates: And you can edit wicd configs to show SSID of your AP even if it's not broadcasted [05:37] Xgates: You running stock kernel? [05:38] no I compiled the kernel [05:38] Xgates: Other version? [05:38] I'm changing my cyrpto around I had some as mods that Pat had compiled in Slack compiles in AES I had it as a mod [05:38] 2.6.33.4 [05:39] Xgates: Does it work with huge? [05:41] anyone to help me pls .....how to update for slackware 13 to 13.1 ? [05:41] danix_ (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Xgates: Well, anyway. I'd try it with stock kernel first, because I get "bad password" from wicd with generic kernel with root fs built-in (no other modifications) [05:42] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:42] Xgates: And that happens only if SSID is not broadcasted [05:43] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:45] bzzz, read all the text files in the slackware tree, and you will know how to upgrade. [05:45] *in the root of the slackware tree [05:46] danix_ (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:46] danix (~dany@host33-100-static.39-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [05:47] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:47] I didn't try it with huge but I'll give it a go thanks [05:48] Xgates: Well, try it and pm me how it goes. Cos it's an annoying issue [05:48] why do you hide your ssid? [05:49] slava_dp: Draws less attention? [05:49] security by obscurity? :-) [05:49] security by obscurity = fail [05:49] slava_dp: That too [05:50] Zordrak: Riiight [05:51] well, changing the ssh port helps, so hiding the ssid might also help to some extent :-) [05:52] Zordrak: What exactly is fail? That Windows lemmings will not see it. It's not public "Welcome. Free internet" network. Then why is it fail to hide from curious eyes and unskilled hands? [05:52] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:54] slava_dp: I have two other networks around. Both are broadcasting and using.. WEP! [05:54] :) [05:54] eh, lol. people are clueless. [05:54] slava_dp tnx but, i dont understend all text :) my country language not a english :) [05:54] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.4) joined ##slackware. [05:56] pupiteee (~p@178.223.9.136) joined ##slackware. [05:56] roflmao http://forums.slamd64.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35751&sid=7e1e54e0f18f3a09e346d6dabb3a4cff [05:58] bzzz, hmm.... try this one, but fix the commands :-) http://tinyurl.com/bzzz-upgrade-txt [05:58] hahahah slava_dp :D [05:59] john_dee: because youre adding complexity for no benefit [05:59] bzzz, that was all I could do :-) seriously, though, slackpkg should handle the update for you, the only caveat is the switch to libata, which is documented in CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [05:59] john_dee: see Kerckhoff for more details. [06:00] ok:) [06:01] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:03] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:04] damn [06:05] I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.35-rc2+ and now I have kernel processes named 'kslowdXXX' taking quite a lot of cpu time :o [06:05] linux is so fast now that it needs it's own slow-down daemons [06:07] im65KG (~chatzilla@204.152.211.137) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:07] knode is so fast at the moment i dont even see it starting. someone might claim that its dying while attempting to start [06:08] seems to be described in http://lwn.net/Articles/329464/ [06:08] "Many years ago, your editor heard Van Jacobson state that naming an algorithm "slow start" was one of the biggest mistakes he had ever made." [06:08] s/knode/akregator [06:09] seems it was running from yesterday [06:10] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Zordrak: That's the point. It adds zero complexity for the users of *this* network. And hides from those who don't need to know it exists. [06:11] john_dee: thanks [06:11] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-25-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Action: Xgates goes to boot new kernek [06:11] kernel :P [06:11] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [06:11] Those who want to look deeper, need higher that "Gime teh internetz" skill. [06:12] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:12] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:13] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:13] tavl (~tavl@189.70.250.229) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:13] how do I create a keyfile for luks? just take some /dev/urandom ? [06:13] slava_dp: s/u// [06:13] dont use urandom for [06:14] dont use urandom for anything that really matters [06:14] hmm.... ok. [06:14] just get some entropy together before you start [06:14] how do I do that? :-) [06:15] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:16] start monitoring your entropy [06:17] then just enter random keyboard tekt.. move the mouse.. generate disk activity etc and watch the etropy shoot up [06:17] and... how do I monitor my entropy? [06:17] don't you find it sort of interesting that it's so hard to create truly random numbers? [06:18] slava_dp: watch -n0.5 cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail [06:19] Slackware's /dev/random has been patched to create only 9's [06:19] mathematical theory bores the shit out of me [06:20] i would rather work as a manual anal depilator for sweaty fat japanese businessmen than spend my life working on maths theory [06:20] why do they have to be Japanese? :P [06:21] Who else wauld hire a man to pluck their arse hairs? [06:22] um i live in Japan... Japanese men seem to be rather hairless [06:22] not like i've been looking or anything [06:22] lmao [06:22] Nice to know you're checking [06:22] haha [06:22] hey the Onsen is a traditional cultural thing here (hot spas) [06:23] i'm blind without glasses but in general they seem rather hairless [06:23] Does it involve getting eyeball-to-juicebox to other men's posteriers? [06:23] (not like we don't know this anyways) [06:23] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:23] no, i'm blind without glasses so i'd HAVE to do that to know for sure (and since i don't ...) [06:24] Well.. don't you ever wonderc WHY they're so hairless? They've just come from their manual depillatory session [06:25] Action: Delahunt knows of no such thing [06:25] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [06:25] but my room mate is japanese, i'll ask him when i get a chance [06:25] (no homo) [06:25] hi all [06:25] Point being that whether they do or they don't it would still be a preferable vocation. [06:26] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:26] Zordrak: you got it all wrong, japanese are hairless and do math theory really good. [06:26] i am trying to compile amule-2.2.6 on slackware 13.1, but no success. i use option embeded crypto and the error is there is not crypto directory on the system [06:26] Joshua__ (~Joshua@traffi5.lnk.telstra.net) joined ##slackware. [06:26] incognitus: provide the exact error [06:27] ok, just a minute to rerun slackbuild [06:28] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:28] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:28] Could not find crypto++ header file "cryptlib.h". [06:29] GuLdUn (~Joshua@traffi5.lnk.telstra.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:29] it search crypto++ >=5.1 [06:29] incognitus: amule depends on wxGTK and cryptopp [06:30] incognitus: since you dont *have* cryptopp.. its gonna fail. [06:30] incognitus: Solution: install cryptopp. [06:30] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [06:30] hm, i had it, but i dont cnow [06:30] it is not part of official dist? [06:31] no [06:31] incognitus: if it was.. it wouldnt be listed on the aMule SlackBuilds.Org page as an extra dependency. [06:31] aha [06:31] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [06:32] nope the huge kernel won't make wicd work either [06:32] so it's not a kernel issue this bad password thing [06:32] ok, i found that package in my repository from the previous version of slack, can i use it ir should be compiled new one [06:32] you should be asking yourself that question [06:33] which seems like a question despite the fact that you didnt use a questionmark [06:33] incognitus:if youre compiling aMule from 13.1 SBo then you need to compile cryptopp from 13.1 SBo [06:33] well, thanks [06:33] have a nice day [06:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Zordrak, when I do 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=file bs=1024 count=4' I get 4996 bytes copied. when I s/u//, I get 42 bytes copied. any reason? [06:35] s/4996/4096/ of course [06:35] slava_dp: i guess dd is stopping upon reaching an EOF [06:35] hows you entropy? [06:35] *your [06:36] can't generate any, stays around 130~150 [06:37] slava_dp: running an active SSL service? [06:37] seems like some process is consuming all my entropy [06:38] slava_dp: seems ls -R / is a good enropy generator [06:38] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [06:38] Zordrak, does kcryptd count? this is a luks laptop [06:38] not sure.. [06:39] well, I can't really get above 150 now [06:39] something eats it all :) [06:39] hm [06:39] Zordrak, u r good man, can u help my with bluez and blueman too [06:39] :) [06:40] Nick change: Joshua__ -> GuLdUn [06:40] incognitus: depends on the problem [06:40] incognitus, blueman should work out of the box [06:40] well [06:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:40] works for me on two slackwares [06:40] incognitus: did you make /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth executable? [06:41] when i try to mount the device - my handy, it return error - cannot mount device on /home/USER/obexfs/... [06:41] so [06:41] yes it is executable [06:42] Xgates: Are you sure your SSID isn't hidden? Because wicd can show hidden APs. And can actually show the name (very unlikely, tho). Or you can enter the name yourself. [06:42] there was eroor with obex too, it searched a lib with lower version, i recompiled obex-data-server and it is ok, but the mount problem still exist [06:42] Xgates: It'd be nice if the issue could be confirmed [06:43] incognitus: which Slackware version? [06:43] 13.1 [06:43] fresh install [06:43] I. Dont. Believe. It. [06:43] what lib was it looking for [06:43] :) :) :) [06:43] wait [06:43] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [06:43] hi [06:43] i started AGAIN with this Vista image and a bigger disk and more RAM... and now i cant ever get SP1 installed let alone SP2. JEEEEsus. [06:44] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:44] incognitus, it seems you forgot to remove stale packages. [06:44] Are there GUI IRC clients that support the client-server model? [06:44] recommend good ones to me [06:44] lol [06:44] crocket: Morning, moron. [06:44] %) [06:44] I already know smuxi and quassel from googling. [06:44] mac-_ (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Zordrak : you obviously have emotions. [06:44] libMagickWand and libMagickCore, with the new install comes version 3, but obex searched version 2 [06:44] haha! [06:46] incognitus, I insist that you did a poor upgrade and had/have some stale packages for bluetooth from slack 13.0. [06:46] may be, it is possible [06:46] exspecially that bluetooth didnt work on 13.0 too :) :) :) [06:46] you said fresh, fresh means clean, not updraded [06:47] Zordrak : Let's be nice to each other. [06:47] john_dee: I think maybe the problem is I need to edit /etc.rc.d.rc.inet1.conf [06:48] but now, all packages of obex, arre installed in the time of upgrade [06:48] http://i50.tinypic.com/15cj0bc.jpg <-- my laptop with the brandy new slackware13.1 install [06:48] Xgates: Oh, god. You don't need to touch rc.inet1.conf if you're using wicd. Not wpa_supplicant.conf [06:48] and running pptp/StrongSWAN vpn to the office [06:49] alisonken1noc, congrats :) [06:50] heh, I've got that keyboard at work :p [06:50] alisonken1noc, Do you use an IRC client that provides the client-server model? [06:50] john_dee: ok [06:51] Xgates: Can you check the AP please? [06:51] complete with semi-working keyboard (it's a hand-me-down from the sister in law) and 2-finger scrolling on the touchpad [06:51] crocket, I've just been using stock slackware xchat until I can get kvirc installed [06:52] alisonken1noc, I googled it, and I got quassel and smuxi myself. [06:52] It doesn't mean I installed them. [06:52] Does kvirc provide server-client model? [06:52] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:52] don't know - I only use the gui client [06:52] wtf is server client model? [06:52] AP? [06:53] slava_dp, Do you know screen in combination with irssi or weechat? [06:53] he obviously means a daemon [06:53] Xgates: Wireless Access Point. Router. See if SSID is really broadcasted. If it's not, then broadcast it and try to connect [06:53] I don't know how else to express this. [06:53] john_dee: yes it's BROADCASTED [06:53] Lol [06:54] slava_dp : mpd is a music server, and sonata is a front-end. [06:54] Xgates: Have you checked? Or you think? [06:54] I know about this kinda stuff I fix computers for a living [06:54] YES [06:54] :) [06:54] slava_dp : Quassel protects your IRC sessions in the event of X session nuke. [06:54] kozandr (~kozandr@forum.zelcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:55] 10 years using Linux I think I know how to make sure my SSID is broadcasted [06:55] hehe [06:55] that's not the problem [06:55] Xgates: Well, ok. Then it works for me. Maybe you really get the pass wrong? [06:55] It happens, uknow :) [06:55] nope pass is ok [06:55] Xgates, then the only thing I can think of is go onto the ap via wire and verify the settings on the ap [06:57] alisonken1noc: You said wicd works fine for you, right? [06:57] my laptop is connected to the noc wireless right now using wicd [06:57] alisonken1noc: You have ssid broadcasted there? [06:58] yes [06:58] alisonken1noc: everything is correct [06:58] I use this router all the time [06:58] alisonken1noc: Can I ask you a favor? :) [06:58] sure [06:58] so on slack for wicd we don't need to edit any configs? [06:59] alls i know is clementine better be fucking worth it [06:59] alisonken1noc: Say what Encryption key value iwconfig outputs? [06:59] I didn't - just installpkg wicd - add user to netdev group - and start [07:00] alisonken1noc: Not the exact value, but is there any key at all [07:00] :) [07:00] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [07:01] no-name (~no-name@243.252.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:01] Jonex (jonex@patapata.forte.studorg.liu.se) joined ##slackware. [07:02] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:03] john_dee, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/IXescM61.html [07:03] hmm maybe I'm missing a slack pack cause I did an expert install [07:04] besides wpa_supplicant what must be installed? [07:04] alisonken1noc: iwconfig, not supplicant.conf :) [07:05] wlan0: Encryption key:off [07:06] Xgates, did you also try to use rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless to config your wireless network? [07:06] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [07:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:07] we need to edit the wpa_supplicant.conf? [07:07] well I thought with wicd we don't need to edit any configs [07:07] I just used wicd - make sure rc.inet1.conf is unset and rc.wireless as well [07:08] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [07:08] I have rc.inet1.conf set for eth0 is all [07:08] if you're going to use wicd - don't use rc.inet1 for wired or wireless. they can fight each other if you don't understand them [07:09] alisonken1noc: Ok, thanks. But that wasn't the favor I was going to ask for :) If you have some extra time and feel like experimenting, could you turn off SSID broadcasting and try to connect with wicd? Need to confirm one thing. In 13.0 iwconfig did show the Encryption key and 13.1 doesn't. I think it can be related to wicd problem I'm having. And maybe Xgates [07:09] hmm - not here at the noc - have to catch me when I'm at home [07:09] john_dee, ^^ [07:09] Xgates: I told you, you don't need to edit anything if you're using wicd :) [07:09] alisonken1home: here? [07:09] ok [07:10] john_dee, I'm at the noc until 6 [07:10] john_dee, correct - that's the house computer [07:11] alisonken1noc: When can I ping you then. It's 3pm here :) [07:11] ? [07:11] it's 0400 here now [07:11] so we're about 11 hours apart [07:12] alisonken1noc: 2-3 hours? [07:12] 4-5 hours - need time to drive home :) [07:12] I live 45 miles from the noc [07:12] alisonken1noc: Oh :) Ok, then. [07:13] after 8am pst [07:13] or pdt - whatever the "Spring Forward" one is [07:14] sheesh I've used wicd before in many other distros [07:14] errrr [07:14] I'm thinking I might not have something installed [07:14] Channel flood from Xgates -- kicking [07:14] but according to the deps I have them [07:14] Xgates kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:14] hah [07:14] It'll be evening here :D [07:14] europe? [07:14] alisonken1noc: Yep [07:15] time to make another pot of coffee [07:16] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Action: phrag is going to put laxative in the coffee pot one morning to catch the caffiene thief [07:16] errrr [07:16] back [07:16] phrag: coffee IS a laxative.. [07:16] Heh [07:16] yeh, so it'll be *lax* [07:17] well does wicd even need ssl installed? [07:17] does wicd really need any deps? [07:18] not that i'm aware [07:18] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) left irc: Quit: I'll be back... [07:19] rworkman: having the KDE rsync module listed publicly is fine with me, thanks [07:19] well if I can't get wicd to run on the huge kernel and you don't need to edit any configs then I must be missing a pkg it depends on [07:20] are you sure you are following directions? [07:20] I forgot what's the cmd to grep a pkg to see what it depends on? [07:20] or can you do that in slack I don't remember [07:21] did you start the wicd (daemon) first? [07:21] I restarted so on boot up it started it automatically [07:22] Xgates: If you made full install, it's hardly a dep problem [07:22] are you part of netdev? did you disable the rc scripts? [07:22] no expert I didn't do a full install at all [07:22] Xgates, the only deps listed in packages are in the readme, otherwise it's time to learn ldd [07:23] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) left irc: Quit: gogie [07:23] I'm in netdev and I haven't touched any scripts [07:23] Xgates: Can you try starting wpa_supplicant by hand? [07:23] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:23] And see if that works [07:23] how ya run it? [07:23] 1 sec [07:24] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Xgates: wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B [07:24] thx [07:24] then iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid [07:24] then dhcpcd [07:25] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [07:25] wpa_supplicant.conf must have your settings. You can copy it from wicd, i think [07:25] must have? I thought we don't need to edit it? [07:25] Xgates: With wicd, no. But now you're not using wicd [07:26] ahh ok because that cmd just failed [07:26] pupiteee (~p@178.223.9.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:26] hehe [07:26] ok let me edit it one sec [07:27] Action: john_dee is checking out MS's Moscow office. Nowhere near Google's :\ [07:28] :) [07:28] wearing a slackware t-shirt i hope =P [07:28] phrag: Sitting in my favourite chair %) [07:29] Wearing a bathrobe :)) [07:29] jk [07:30] john_dee: if I'm using key_mgmt=WPA-PSK and I have in my router wpa2 is this ok or do I need to change it? [07:30] key_mgmt=WPA2PSK ? [07:30] errr [07:30] would someone on 13.1 please pastebin the output from : cat /var/log/packages/qt-4.6.2_2d3d3e5-i486-1 [07:30] key_mgmt=WPA2-SK ? [07:30] sheesh my typing [07:31] mancha: if you have the package itself, just open it with vim [07:31] Xgates, see my earlier paste from my wicd config [07:32] Xgates: no, its fine [07:32] k [07:32] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:32] Action: phrag hungry [07:33] mancha: too big for pastebin.ca [07:33] hrmm, yeah its a big file i guess. [07:33] i could host it for you? [07:33] quickly [07:33] My group section has this: group=CCMP TKIP WEP104 WEP40 [07:34] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [07:34] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Client Quit [07:34] AES=CCMP [07:34] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:35] this is what I have: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/wReZjv99.html [07:36] take out the WEP* stuff [07:36] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6000921/qt-output.txt [07:36] ok [07:36] mancha: ^ [07:36] everything else ok? [07:37] cool. is dropbox one of those free uploader sites? [07:37] john_dee: what you going on about AES=CCMP? [07:38] phrag mucho thanks [07:39] Xgates, proto=WPA RSN tells it it's aes encryption [07:39] Xgates: You can cut out both WEPs from group [07:40] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [07:40] well i don't get it...i have a very similar layout to that phrag and clementine is having the hardest time finding includes [07:40] alisonken1noc: Not exactly. RSN is WPA2 [07:40] ok this thing is failing and one thing I noticed in the fail you'll see here: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/X9jk8h95.html [07:40] And CCMP is AES encryption [07:40] TKIP is TKIP [07:41] in Invalid PSK 'mykey'. it only showed part of my key it didn't show the whole thing.... [07:41] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:41] hmmm [07:41] Xgates: Password must be in double quotes "pass" [07:41] ok [07:41] psk doesn't need them [07:42] ok that ran I'm back to the term now [07:42] what next now? [07:42] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-rfrxvjztrwkdrxei) joined ##slackware. [07:42] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid [07:42] and dhcpcd [07:42] GuLdUn (Joshua@traffi5.lnk.telstra.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:43] brainvision (~brainvisi@host117-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:43] how do I restart dhcpd I don't remember [07:44] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) joined ##slackware. [07:44] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [07:44] I ran iwconfig.... [07:44] Xgates: dhcpcd != dhcpd [07:44] dhclient will work too :\ [07:44] "work" [07:44] run the cmd how? [07:44] :o [07:44] Xgates: dhcpcd eth0 [07:44] ok [07:44] s/eths/wlan/ [07:45] bah [07:45] you mean wla0 [07:45] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [07:45] wlan0 [07:45] dhcpcd wlan0? [07:45] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) joined ##slackware. [07:45] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Client Quit [07:46] john_dee: ok so run dhcpd wlan0 yeah? [07:46] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] dhcpCd not dhcpd [07:46] Action: Zordrak hands john_dee a whisky [07:46] huh why uppercase C? [07:46] never seen that before [07:46] to point out to you the character you keep missing [07:47] Zordrak: This'll take *a lot* of whisky %) [07:47] dhcpcd wlan0 [07:47] Xgates: were you dropped on your head as a child? [07:47] no it's LATE [07:47] Action: Xgates is a bit sleepy ;p [07:48] ok am I still here [07:48] that worked dhcpcd wlan0 [07:49] Nick change: {a}ppetite -> Appetite [07:49] here: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/TZKYhr56.html [07:49] Well, then ping something already. If it works, we have a confirmed issue. [07:49] lol [07:51] ping 8.8.8.8 [07:53] ping timeout [07:53] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:54] Huuh [07:54] interesting - 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=14.9 ms [07:54] :) [07:54] google nameserver :) [07:54] has anyone here gotten clementine 0.3 to compile? [07:55] pls, i need realy help with bluetooth [07:55] i cannot connect to my handy [07:56] I think if dhcpcd worked for him, then supplicant magic worked [07:56] too [07:57] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [07:58] What program displays two penguins during slackware64 13.1 boot process? [07:58] penguin display [07:58] brainvision (~brainvisi@host68-14-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:58] crocket: it's the kernel - frame buffer support, iirc. [07:58] there's a kernel option to turn on or off the penguins. [07:58] blueman cannot mount the device on my user directory [07:58] NO splashy? [07:59] crocket: And no plymouth. What you think you're in fairy tale? %) [08:00] john_dee : Splashy and plymouth are fairly different from each other. [08:00] and one more, the blueman dalog window shows uncommon signs instead of letters [08:00] Gtg prepare for the interview instead of trolling here [08:00] cu [08:00] Coore (~c00re@d0h.us) joined ##slackware. [08:02] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:02] trying to install irssi0.8.15 from slackware10.2/patches/source/: http://codepad.org/mvr6yBtl [08:02] possible to fix this error? [08:03] tribeca (~tribeca@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:03] hi [08:03] seems like too old a perl? [08:04] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [08:04] well the wireless worked by hand so wicd has some sort of issue then,,,, [08:04] shouldnt be, since its a slackware10.2 patch [08:04] same with the 11.0 patch [08:06] Xgates, ok - what's the difference between the config you generated and the config that wicd generated? also what version of wicd? [08:06] Does anybody use splashy or usplash here? [08:06] 5.8.8 is installed, a bit outdated sure but why is then ftp.slackware.org with the package/sources in /patches [08:07] updated with* [08:10] bazz_ (~chatzilla@212.183.140.58) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Xgates: Oh. Good. Then, yes. There certainly is an issue. Even worse in your case [08:12] Because I, at least, can connect to a broadcasting AP. As some other people here. [08:12] alisonken1noc: 1.7.0, where's the config for wicd? [08:12] /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf ? [08:12] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Xgates, not quite [08:13] but there are some default settings there [08:14] however, if you're tired, you may want to sleep before mucking around with it [08:14] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.27.79) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Nick change: alema0ff -> alema0 [08:15] I'm ok where's this config for wicd? [08:15] I see some not sure which you want [08:15] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [08:16] john_dee: even worse LOL [08:16] Xgates, the one that wicd uses is /var/lib/wcd/configurations/ [08:16] I think it's a bug in this version I saw online some others were having this problem too in an older version seems like it's still around [08:17] ok I was looking at that one didn't know if that was it [08:17] bazz_ (~chatzilla@212.183.140.58) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100402161724] [08:17] Jonex (jonex@patapata.forte.studorg.liu.se) left ##slackware. [08:17] what about it? [08:17] everything looks ok [08:18] compare it with the one that works [08:18] mcury (~mcury@189.24.97.176) joined ##slackware. [08:21] the only difference is that psk= in /var/lib/wcd/configurations/ has like 64 characters [08:21] how about the one you created? [08:21] OK It's the kernel logo that displays two penguins above boot messages. [08:22] I'd imagine that's a hex for encryption purposes that wicd creates [08:22] Can I add a background as a kernel logo? [08:22] well no you can see my psk as I typed it [08:22] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:22] crocket, read up on kernel internals [08:23] did you put quotes around the one you typed? [08:23] that's kinda crappy advise :p [08:23] isn't that like for encryption in the /var/lib/wcd/configurations/ ? [08:23] that it does this? [08:24] I mean to have the psk show in plain text doesn't make sense [08:24] bzzz (~user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:24] thrice`, well, changing background logo on the kernel is not a quick "change this file to this" kinda thing - also he's been trying to get splashy to work so it boots up like *buntu does with a pretty picture rather than penguins and text [08:24] yeah I put quotes in the wpa_supplicant.config [08:25] Xgates, ls -l /var/lib/wicd/configurations [08:25] sar@slackware:~$ ls -l /var/lib/wicd/configurations [08:25] total 4 [08:25] -rw------- 1 root root 271 2010-06-07 02:00 00223fd465c2 [08:25] so it's not just readable [08:26] Xgates, the psk key you see is what is generated by your password+essid when fed to /usr/sbin/wpa_passphrase [08:26] well doesn't wicd have to write to it [08:26] wicd is run as root - remember, the daemon controls that file, not youi [08:26] you just feed it info via wicd-client and wicd-cli [08:26] very weird. in my experience with it so far, wicd "just works" [08:26] yeah that I know [08:27] Onto my 5th complete re-install in trying to get this Vista image working... how awesome(!) [08:27] why vista btw? [08:27] phrag: in house software testing [08:27] look here same problem different version: [08:28] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74085 [08:28] I think this is a bug [08:28] mcury (~mcury@189.24.97.176) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:28] unless anyone has another idea about this [08:29] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:30] turn on essid broadcast? as noted, not broadcasting essid's on ap's gives no security benefits [08:30] Xgates: your ESSID contain "-" ? [08:31] brainvision (~brainvisi@host68-14-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:32] tribeca: what you mean contains underscore, where? [08:32] or I quoted it? [08:32] Xgates: maybe check on the #wicd channel :) [08:32] lol@underscore [08:33] dashes, not underscores [08:33] Xgates: example: MY-NET [08:33] ang: well I'm going to get the last version 13 had and build that and see what that does [08:34] no I have no dashes in it [08:34] you're on 13.1 now? [08:34] yea [08:34] using 1.7.0 [08:34] so am I [08:35] I'm going to build this from the slackbuild: [08:35] http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/source/wicd/ [08:35] on LQ what determines who is a newbie, senior member, etc? [08:35] mancha, part of it is how many questions you answer - other than that, don't know [08:35] so a moderator looks at who answers what? [08:36] mancha: its probably just the number of posts? [08:36] Rainly (~Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] I only know that how many questions you answer is part of getting out of newbie status [08:36] ang, thats what i was thinking too, some automated count [08:36] i'm going to install a mailserver, on a 2 core xeon 2.8 GHz with 1 GB of ram, do i get any benefit from running 64bit slackware on it? [08:36] Rainly (~Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:37] alison, what determines how many answers you give though? that has to be a human since a computer would have a rough time differentiating a post which is another question and an answer [08:37] Rainly (~Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Rainly (Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [08:38] or should i just install 64bit just because the hardware supports it? [08:38] zux1wrk: you will not see the benefit. [08:38] zux1wrk: flip a coiun [08:38] *coin [08:39] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:39] ok, in that case as i do have a 32bit bootable media, i'll just stick with that... [08:39] plan. [08:39] won't have to create a 64bit installer :) [08:41] ok, let me go on the record and say that i am not the biggest fan of cmake... [08:41] say wicd installs this path/pkg right? ----> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/wicd [08:42] removing wicd with pkgtools wasn't very clean [08:42] Xgates i have never seen someone struggle so much with wicd as you! :) [08:42] mancha, you have to log in, and you reply to a question. replies are marked different that original posts [08:42] mancha: i agree wrt cmake [08:42] wicd was designed to simplify things :> [08:42] there is a bug with it I read about it online [08:42] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74085 [08:43] alison, so in these threads where there's a question and a back and forth Q&A between the questioner and the answere, each reply gets counted as an answer? [08:44] if i ask a question and we go back and forth discussing it onlinefor 100 back and forths i become a senior member? [08:44] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) joined ##slackware. [08:44] mancha, again, you'd have to talk to the LQ guys on their rating system :) [08:44] yes but you suggested you knew! :) [08:44] brainvision (~brainvisi@host57-17-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:45] no - I suggested that I knew answering questions is >part< of it :) that much I do know [08:46] fair enough. cmake's made me grumpy is all... [08:47] ok I just built wicd-1.6.2.1-i486-1.txz [08:47] let's see what this does [08:47] brb [08:47] 1.6.2.1 is buggy [08:48] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBBBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] well 1.7.0 isn't working out [08:48] then you use 1.6.2.2 [08:48] ok [08:48] the fact that 1.7.0 doesn't work doesn't make 1.6.2.1 less buggy [08:48] mancha: hm? [08:49] darn sourceforge seems to be having issues can't get to wicd site [08:49] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-55-242.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:49] the WICD version in Slackware 13.1 works perfectly for me [08:50] anyone get to wicd.sourceforge.net? [08:51] http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/wicd/wicd-stable/wicd-1.6.2.2/wicd-1.6.2.2.tar.bz2?use_mirror=surfnet [08:51] got it now [08:51] thanks [08:52] But WICD 1.6 does have this WPA/WPA2 bug doesnt it? [08:53] http://sourceforge.net/projects/wicd/files/ [08:53] works for me [08:56] Slackware 13.1, /etc/inittab default runlevel set at 4. I get the login manager, but when i try to login, the screen just go dark for a few seconds, and then return to the login manager. I can login to KDE just fine from runlevel 3 using startx. [08:56] What could be wrong? [08:56] brb [08:56] Xgates (Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left ##slackware ("Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds )"). [08:56] chegney (chegney@97-116-91-65.mpls.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [08:56] ThomasLocke: Check your users ~/.xsession-errors file. [08:57] ThomasLocke: then use level 3 ;) that's what I do [08:58] brainvision (~brainvisi@host57-17-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:58] mina86, Yes, I would do that. But this computer is for my wife, and she prefers a graphical login manager. [08:58] adamk, I will do that. [08:58] volo (~volo@netacc-gpn-4-179-168.pool.telenor.hu) joined ##slackware. [08:58] hi [08:59] imis (~imis@92.49.4.160) joined ##slackware. [08:59] imis (imis@92.49.4.160) left ##slackware. [09:00] Bugz__ (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-46-92.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:00] Bugz (~Bugz@75.42.83.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:00] adamk, No errors. The file is empty. [09:01] nachox (~imarambio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. [09:01] then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well [09:01] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-83-116.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:01] Huh... Well anything that gets started by kdm after you log in should have STDOUT and STDERR directed to ~/.xsession-errors. [09:01] Which makes me wonder if anything is starting up. [09:01] typically, it's a permission error - did you do a clean install? the other check is create a new user and see if the new user can login [09:02] Double check what session is selected for that user and then confirm that the session file exists and see what it's Exec'ing. [09:03] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:03] No problems in Xorg.0.log either. Remember that everything works perfectly from runlevel 3 using startx. [09:03] And yes, this is a clean install. [09:04] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:04] then try adding a new user and see if the new user can login [09:04] isn't permission error? [09:04] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:04] I will try that. [09:05] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:06] try: find ~ ! -user $USER [09:06] nachox (~imarambio@201.216.213.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:11] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D4CF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:12] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-247.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Nick change: champus -> fb|jean [09:13] No change with a new user. I get a black screen for a few seconds, and then I'm returned to the login manager. [09:14] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:14] volo (volo@netacc-gpn-4-179-168.pool.telenor.hu) left ##slackware. [09:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:15] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:15] ThomasLocke: and the same happens when you login as root? [09:15] Roin, yes [09:16] And both root and regular users work from runlevel 3. [09:16] hm... I'm using it in RL 4 with KDM and it works... [09:16] i'm trying to create a bootable dvd from slackware tree and the instructions to create the iso mention an option "-c isolinux/isolinux.boot \", but there is no such file "isolinux/isolinux.boot [09:16] Indeed it should work. It's working just fine with Slackware 12.2. :o) [09:16] is that a bug in the instruction or am i missing a file? [09:16] ThomasLocke: You are on Slackware 13.0? [09:17] 13.1 [09:17] Clean install [09:17] Oh ok [09:17] hm... [09:17] a broken package, perhaps? [09:17] (it really should work) [09:17] Yeah [09:17] Hmm [09:18] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [09:20] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Aldaron (1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:23] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Hi! I'm writing a slackbuild script. Is there some preferred way to find out where the pkgconfig .pc file should go to? (/usr/lib/pkgconfig or /usr/lib64/pkgconfig) [09:24] well, which arch are you on? :) [09:25] usually you declare LIBDIRSUFFIX and use that ( --libdir=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} ) [09:25] x86_64, but I'm thinking of writing a generic build script so I might someday post it to sbo [09:26] yea, well. $LIBDIRSUFFIX is not declared by default :P [09:26] yes it is [09:26] in the slackbuilds.org template [09:27] heroid (heroid@gnewsense.mtveurope.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:27] and, most of Pats builds (example: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/l/cairo/cairo.SlackBuild ) [09:27] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:28] oh! [09:28] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] >.< [09:30] maybe it wasn't in the template when I first made this script :P [09:30] Hi Zordrak o/ [09:31] sup [09:31] Aldaron, not a good excuse, do your homework ;> [09:31] ah nm you? [09:31] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [09:31] thrice`: o well, I'm just wondering aloud. Maybe I copied the script for some other package and modified that originally [09:31] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:32] anybody know how to reverse the mousewheel dcroll in flux 1.1.1 with slack 13 please? [09:32] thrice`: also automatically determining the architecture bit seems new - at least I recall many scripts from sbo failing as ARCH was not set [09:35] inconnu: play with either xmodmap or generate an xorg.conf & twiddle things that way. regardless, what you're after is remapping 'buttons' 4 & 5. use xev to see for yourself [09:36] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [09:36] I hope slackware adopts fbsplash. [09:36] it won't [09:36] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:36] . o O ( alphageek knows someone who is in for a long wait ) [09:37] slack doesn't follow trends or fads [09:37] providing a silly boot screen isn't slackware's goal. besides, framebuffers are so 2009, use KMS :> [09:37] Fbsplash is a boot splash and decorates framebuffer consoles with background images. [09:37] but if you wanna add it as a package to slack you could [09:37] thrice` : Does slackware64 13.1 use KMS now? [09:37] crocket: I see no point in 'decoration' [09:38] here's a good litmus test: if it's eyecandy for the _sake_ of eyecandy, you're using the wrong distro [09:38] ubuntu, otoh, seems to exist specifically for that purpose [09:38] I don't know how to test if KMS is turned on. [09:38] well, then you could have descriptive backgrounds on the console, but i think that would get in the way of reading the text [09:38] crocket, depends on the video card [09:38] Nick change: xchg_chrr -> xchg [09:39] crocket: I believe it's on by default for intel, but not radeon. [09:39] crocket: stop whining about boot splash. Its pointless, wasteful and anti-Slackware and you've been whining about it for days now. [09:39] Not sure about nouveau. [09:39] Zordrak : I didn't whine, man. [09:39] adamk : I use radeon. [09:39] just a suggestion. [09:39] anyone know who runs linode.com ? [09:39] crocket: Then it's not active unless you enabled it. [09:39] seems like a slacker [09:39] adamk: it's on by default with my netbook. intel 3150 or somesuch video [09:39] phrag: 'caker' [09:40] phrag: oftc #linode [09:40] allend (~allend@CPE-60-230-121-248.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:40] i915 driver.. yeah, there it is. 'drm_kms_helper' loaded as a dep for i915 [09:40] alphageek: Right, it's on by default for intel, not radeon :-) [09:41] ah nice one, cheers Dominian =) [09:41] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:41] Slackware itself is a totaly customizable distro. [09:41] phrag: np [09:41] wonder if he'll hook me up =P [09:41] phrag: I do like linode. [09:41] phrag: Never had ONE issue with them... [09:41] Just couldn't afford my linode anymore [09:41] anyone friends with caker? =P [09:41] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) joined ##slackware. [09:41] phrag: acidchild I think talks with a few of them [09:41] I once took many pains to install grub to slackware, because I wanted a graphical boot menu and lilo didn't have that at the time. Then I installed a new slack version and didn't care. I've been very happy about lilo ever since [09:41] people here have friends? [09:41] mm, I didn't think he was a slackware guy [09:41] cool, cheers =) [09:42] they got 13.1 on their servers [09:42] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:43] Skywise: not me.. I've never heard of these friends things.. [09:44] yeah, all that friends talk made me suspcious [09:46] Action: alphageek has lots of friends.. girlfriends, even [09:46] !! but I thought girls didn't exist [09:46] the weird part is I think they're related. they all have the last name Jaypegg [09:46] ohh, I've heard of those girls. they get around :/ [09:47] jomo (~mich@p3EE212CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:48] phrag: linode++ [09:53] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:58] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:59] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:15] Aidar-Nagato: fix your bootloader (grub/lilo) [10:15] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [10:19] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:22] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:22] i did update-grub, but it doesn't work, slackware still can't mount root fs... [10:23] Aidar-Nagato: edit fstab and update your bootloader [10:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:25] TehRabbitt (~rabbott56@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:25] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:25] Aidar-Nagato (admin@81.30.177.243.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [10:34] Is there some way to propose a change to an existing slackbuild? (I was about to submit my script but then realized someone got there first - his script doesn't create a .pc file though) [10:34] it's questionable if the .pc file is needed for anything, but there was one issue where cmake failed to build something when it was missing [10:35] mac-_ (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[11:05] I commented something out in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf [11:05] what do I need to do to restart audio to incorporate this change? [11:06] running 13.1 [11:06] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.64.146) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:07] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:07] chegney: not wise, you should make changes in ~/.asoundrc for user or /etc/asound.conf for all users [11:07] /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa ? [11:07] /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa restart [11:07] chegney run this command and then paste output to this channel: cat /proc/asound/modules [11:08] 0 snd_intel8x0 [11:09] I was having problems running skype so I commented out pcm.hdmi cards.pcm.hdmi [11:09] running skype was aborting with error ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi [11:09] chegney: close all sound apps and firefox then as root: rmmod snd-intel8x0; modprobe snd-intel8x0 [11:10] chegney: if you use kde,gnome,xfce or pulseaudio you may have to close those too [11:11] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.64.146) joined ##slackware. [11:11] I know i'm not using kde, gnome or xfce [11:11] running openbox [11:11] how do I check if pulseaudio is running? [11:11] ps aux? [11:11] yea [11:12] ps aux | grep "pulse" shows nothing [11:12] pgrep pulseaudio [11:13] yep, nothing [11:13] ok, rmmod and modprobe should run without errors [11:13] jomo (mich@p3EE212CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [11:13] chegney: you have to close all voip apps too, like skype [11:14] yeah, it was closed [11:14] hmm, okay, so I restarted the audio and tried running skype and the pcm errors went away, but it's still aborting and won't run... now no errors [11:14] chegney: get any errors when you run modprobe after rmmod? [11:15] no I didn't get an errors running modprobe [11:15] chegney: what was the original problem that motivated you to edit that alsa.conf file? [11:16] when running skype I was getting the following error [11:16] ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi [11:16] so I commented out a line in alsa.conf [11:16] pcm.hdmi cards.pcm.hdmi [11:17] chegney: your sound card capable of using hdmi ? [11:17] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] Bugz__ (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:18] no [11:18] chegney: alsa usually registers a hdmi card as 2 sound cards, one analog and one hdmi in this command: cat /proc/asound/cards [11:18] this is a 4 year old dell laptop [11:18] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] chegney: ok, most likely not a hdmi capable card [11:19] root@darkstar:~# cat /proc/asound/cards [11:19] 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 [11:19] Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with STAC9750,51 at irq 5 [11:19] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:19] ok, no hdmi [11:19] whoaaa, someone else is on darkstar [11:19] I still can't run skype [11:19] chegney: the problem is skype, or skype setup, dont know the fix [11:19] hehe, yeah [11:20] yeah, running skype just says Aborted [11:20] raela: ? [11:20] after logging in [11:20] chegney: read the linux setup page at skype home page, or slackware sites, netsearch? [11:21] i'm running the skype built through slackbuilds, it appears to be 2.0, not the beta 2.1 [11:21] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] slackbuilds skype didn't work for me [11:21] Roin: I always see dive on darkstar :) it just amused me [11:22] Ok xD [11:22] so I should probably just download the source tarball from skype and build it that way eh? [11:23] skype doesn't distribute sources, just binaries [11:23] download the static binary and try to run it [11:23] just untar and ./skype [11:24] ah, okay [11:25] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:25] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:29] sbopkg not have a remove command? [11:30] er you can just removepkg it [11:30] do I need to know the full pkg name? [11:30] or gust removepkg skype [11:30] s/gust/just [11:30] chegney, all packages that are installed get plopped in /var/log/packages/ [11:30] I used zsh, so it completes.. yes, I think so [11:31] so, removepkg skype will work, or removepkg /var/log/packages/skype [11:31] chegney: you can also use the pkgtool [11:31] brainvision (~brainvisi@host85-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:33] what's the best place to untar skype binaries or all users to use? /opt? [11:33] chegney, only the text file showing the package desc file and the output of tar go there [11:34] then create a link to the excutable in /usr/bin? [11:34] chegney: first see if it works, then copy it to somewhere like /usr/local/bin [11:34] chegney, your preference; I can't stand /opt to be honest, but others like it [11:34] I think I even put it in /usr/bin [11:34] I'm still waiting for skype to have a _real_ 64-bit binary rather than that repackaged 32-bit binary [11:34] Rainly (~Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] alisonken1home: You're optimistic, aren't you? %) [11:36] okay, it looks like the new binary is running [11:36] always :) better than being a pessimist and not being disappointed [11:36] brainvision (~brainvisi@host85-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:36] chegney: the slackbuild uses the dynamic binary and strips it, which causes issues [11:36] Rainly (Rainly@114-44-178-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:37] I grab the static binary, but because it's still a 32-bit binary and I don't have multilib setup yet, it's still causes issue [11:37] s [11:37] who uses netbeans on slackware? [11:37] not if I can help it [11:38] I run 32bit on my laptops, but yeah I have multilib set up on the 64bit machine.. worked without issue [11:38] raela: it's an older version to on slackbuilds... 2.0 rather than 2.1beta [11:38] chegney: doesn't matter, it screws up if you use 2.1 with the slackbuild as well [11:38] I was waiting for slack64-13.1 to come out first - right now the home rig is slack64-current from feb [11:39] ScreamerX: me [11:39] I just have to remember to manually update skype from time to time [11:39] tribeca: do you also have to add "tools.jar" to the classpath of ant? [11:39] chegney: the Slackbuild works for 2.1.0.81 if you remove the lines that strip the binary. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/skype-2-1-0-81-a-804851/ [11:39] if you use the static binary, you shouldn't have to, right? other than I guess skype updates [11:40] tribeca: for compiling java se projects. for example, when klicking on "clean and build"? [11:40] allend: good to know, thanks [11:40] I wonder why the maintainer of the slackbuild left the stripping lines in [11:41] Eddie_Grey (~usuario@187.23.99.51) joined ##slackware. [11:41] raela: because it worked with the earlier version [11:41] ScreamerX: I don't use it for java development. Sorry [11:41] allend: what benefit does stripping offer? [11:42] tribeca: for what do you use it? [11:42] raela: do not know for sure. Just reduces the size I believe. [11:43] ScreamerX: i had installed it, to searching a good php/html editor [11:44] mrcarrot (~lasse@adsl-46.178-Static.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. 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[11:57] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:58] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [11:59] my fan on my laptop is running constantly, I doubt it needs to be, what should I be checking? [11:59] top ? [12:00] mrcarrot (~lasse@adsl-46.178-Static.ssp.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:00] cpu is at 42.2% used [12:01] what's using all of it? [12:01] warmana (~quassel@nat/ibm/x-nsvoyuhzvbcgtqgz) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [12:01] firefox? :P [12:01] if it's something that is putting lots of unnecessary load, check into what's going on.. should take care of the fan :P [12:01] yup, stab the process right in the heard [12:02] damn, having this kslowd process is frustrating [12:02] inetd is the biggest user at like 8% [12:02] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:02] It could also be your video card heating up causing the fan to run. [12:03] Or, rather, the GPU since it probably doesn't have a separate video card. [12:03] I'm just sitting here typing in irc or skype [12:03] maybe browsing an internet page from time to time in firefox [12:04] errr yeah seems like high load for that. anything odd running in ps? [12:05] I started up kopete the other day and was pissed when I found it started something else that was indexing my hdd.. using a hell of a lot of resources [12:05] had to kill 10 pids or something ;/ [12:06] alphageek (rooot@69-196-140-101.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:06] psaux.txt at http://dpaste.com/204287/ [12:07] I'm just running the generic-huge kernel, I haven't built a smaller one yet [12:07] maybe I have stuff loaded from that that don't need to be? [12:07] try restarting firefox I guess and see if that helps. close it and see how the laptop reacts [12:08] firefox doesn't clean up scripts after you close a web page [12:10] inetd? why are you running inetd? [12:10] well, I was wondering about that [12:10] check your syslog [12:10] sshd running too? [12:11] yes sshd is running [12:11] chegney: tail /var/log/syslog [12:11] what does it say? [12:13] last thing in the syslog was from 19:46:38 yesterday [12:15] i've rebooted since then [12:15] well, something is most probably going on so decide: stop inetd now and find out later on, or find out now and wait before stopping inetd [12:15] or if you don't care about what's happening, stop inetd now [12:16] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [12:16] is that /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd stop? [12:16] yup [12:17] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:18] that fixed it [12:18] i'm down to like under 5% usage now [12:19] why was inetd running? [12:19] I probably forgot to disable it when installation asked about services [12:19] I wouldn't have intensionally choose to run it, I don't need it [12:19] wanted to be suer [12:20] so where do I shut that off at? i'm at runlevel 4 [12:20] Just 'chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd' as root and it won't start again. [12:21] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd [12:24] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:24] with openbox, I'm use to using gmrun as a task launcher by pressing Win-e [12:24] I dont see that there is an official package or slackbuild for gmrun [12:24] any other recommendations? [12:24] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:24] dmenu ? [12:24] or, use kde + krun ;) [12:25] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] can krun be used with openbox without running kde? [12:26] definitely overkill. dmenu is a pretty sweet app [12:26] you're using openbox and nothing else? krun would probably start quite a lot of things [12:27] http://urukrama.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/using-dmenu-in-pekwm-and-openbox/ [12:30] thumbs (1000@modemcable250.220-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:32] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-49.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:32] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:33] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:34] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:36] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:37] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:38] thumbs (1000@modemcable250.220-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:39] yes, openbox and nothing else [12:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:46] hennrys (~chatzilla@212.183.140.47) joined ##slackware. [12:46] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] chegney: if you want to remove sbo packages, as others have said, you can use pkgtool/removepkg directly, but sbopkg also has the main menu item 'Packages List/uninstall installed SBo packages' and, in that, if you tag packages in the list, removepkg will be called for them [12:47] im trying to install snort with a slackbuild, ive install mysql on install but but when i run the slackbuild script it says ./snort.SlackBuild: line 76: --with-mysql-libraries=/usr/lib/mysql: No such file or directory [12:49] where did this slackbuild come from? sounds like someone forgot to escape a newline [12:50] it from 13 im using 13.1 with a higher version of snort too [12:50] hennrys, sounds like you edited the slackbuild to add a configure line, but forgot to add "\" for the new line. pastebin it [12:51] ok ill have another look thanks [12:52] thrice they all have \ at end .... --with-mysql-libraries=/usr/lib/mysql \ [12:52] waltemic (~michael_w@mue-88-130-3-149.dsl.tropolys.de) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ive only commented a few lines out [12:52] hennrys: it would be from the line before [12:53] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:53] move the comment block out of the middle of the escaped newlines [12:53] and/or pastebin it so we're not having to be psychic [12:53] Nick change: waltemic -> MoD [12:54] ok ill pastebin [12:54] Nick change: MoD -> Guest550 [12:54] hennrys, you can't comment out configure lines :) [12:55] slakmagik: thanks! [12:55] sure thing :) [12:55] thats my problem then :) [12:56] so i a dont want a flag or the flag is outdated i need to delete it [12:56] or move it after commenting [12:56] point is, it can't be in the middle of the command line [12:56] why does 'smbclient -I -M -U ' returns 'cli_message returned NT_STATUS_PIPE_BROKEN'? [12:56] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.27.79) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:57] hennrys, yeah. what you basically did, was try and make "#" a configure option [12:57] oh i see slakmagik, didnt think of that :( [12:58] thanks working fine now :) [12:58] good :) [12:59] on debian we had a tool called 'debootstrap'. This would install debian into another location on your hard drive. Does Slackware have anything similar? [13:00] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:01] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [13:01] you can installpkg with a '--root otherroot' but then there'd be more manual work getting your configuration in order. Not sure if that's what you mean or not. [13:01] no, the tool in slackware actually works well [13:02] and that means it's not a good equivalent to debootstrap [13:02] what tool? [13:02] as slakmagik said: installpkg -root, and a chroot for sbin/setup [13:02] oh interesting [13:03] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D4CF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] i need to create a slackware usb image [13:03] maybe there is another way [13:03] i have a feeling alienBOB has written a howto [13:03] yeah, see the usb installer directory in the slack tree for that - that's a different kettle of monkeys [13:03] yeah, that too [13:03] installpkg -root and chroot for sbin/pkgtool [13:03] (not setup, pkgtool) [13:04] couldn't you just boot the CD and point setup at the usb drive? [13:05] hackedhead: good point [13:05] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:05] check fstab btw [13:05] dustybin: i'm not sure it will work, but it seems straightforward enough.... [13:05] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/installing-slackware-using-usb-thumb-drive/ [13:05] well, it depends on whether you're trying to install from or to the usb drive [13:05] oh thats wrong [13:06] i want to install to the usb drive [13:06] so i can boot my joggler [13:06] joggler? but anyway, I've never tried it, but if you want to install to, just treating it as a hard drive sounds good, like hackedhead said [13:07] im going to get this device to boot slackware [13:07] http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/o2-joggler-hands-on-16.jpg [13:07] ubuntu works on it, so why not slackware [13:07] Nick change: Guest550 -> modthemod [13:09] dustybin: interesting. is it nice hardware? [13:09] zErOaCid (debian@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:09] dustybin: seems like it might make a decent "remote control" for an HTPC/wired house setup [13:09] http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Hardware [13:10] hackedhead: im going to use it as a mythtv frontend [13:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwjPRBAFrU [13:10] dustybin: can it boot off the network? [13:10] good point!!! [13:10] im not sure [13:11] becase pxe boot and install is very simple [13:11] yes! [13:13] dustybin: hmm. not much "disk" space. but seems very cool [13:15] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hennrys (~chatzilla@212.183.140.47) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100402161724] [13:20] danix (~danix@host189-30-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:21] tiphareth (~m@ppp85-140-234-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:21] hello [13:23] is slackware-current the unstable branch of slackware? [13:23] i bit like debian unstable? [13:23] *a [13:24] mm, kinda. it's a constantly updated version that eventually is snap-shotted into a release [13:24] right i see [13:25] But right now there is no diffrence between 13.1 and current on the mirrors is it? [13:25] I would say slightly different in that debian really targets a release, slackware just keeps updating 'until it feels right' :) [13:25] Roin, right [13:25] what happens when software has a security problem? [13:25] what gets updated? [13:25] from here: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/ [13:26] slackware-13.1/patches/ , but many times they will be updated in -current too [13:26] dustybin: 'patches' directory under each release contains security fixes [13:26] i see [13:26] the official repo for that version get's a replacement package with an updated number [13:26] as ananke points out :) [13:26] so patches could get updated anytime [13:27] dustybin: if by 'anytime' you mean 'whenever there are serious security concerns', then yes [13:27] all you need to do is keep a eye in the patches dir every now and again? [13:27] dustybin: and there is software, such as slackpkg, which can help you with that task [13:27] tiphareth (~m@ppp85-140-234-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:27] hey, how can I tell if mod_rewrite is actually on, cause it doesn't appear to be working, this isnt my first time using it either. Is there a way to check what modules apache has loaded/if its actually reading my .htaccess [13:27] ace [13:27] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:28] nickals: check inside your apache dir [13:28] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) joined ##slackware. [13:28] dustybin, for what? I know .htaccess is there and readable [13:28] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: .. [13:29] eeek apache looks totally different to the debian version [13:29] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [13:29] on debian there was symlinks showing you what modules were loaded etc [13:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 7 13:23 /var/www/htdocs/.htaccess [13:29] dustybin, well i have it in the config as to be loading [13:30] and the module does exist [13:30] and i dont see any errors in the logs [13:31] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-76-112-241-229.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] xsamurai (~fahmad@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:31] nickals: do some tests with .htaccess to make sure [13:35] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [13:36] brainvision: hi leonardo [13:36] nickals: run httpd -S [13:37] dustybin: the debian apache httpd package is an abomination [13:37] nickals: err httpd -M [13:38] hai [13:38] thumbs: i actually like it [13:38] about the only thing i like about debian or from debian [13:38] thumbs, ty ty its loaded alright [13:38] i must just be retarded today [13:38] xsamurai: If the user can master it, OK. But debian issues account for 99% of the questions in #httpd [13:38] xsamurai: hence why I hate it. [13:39] nickals: pastebin your .htaccess file. [13:39] Agris (~agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [13:39] thumbs, also thank you for that channel name, i tried #apache [13:39] nickals: you can't talk/idle there. See the topic. [13:39] i know [13:39] lol [13:39] nickals: there, I removed you. All sorted. [13:39] ;] [13:39] ty [13:40] thumbs: dont blame you thats for sure but like you said once you get the hang of it, makes managing a whole lot easier [13:41] xsamurai: I refuse to support it, for one. [13:41] xsamurai: let the folks in #debian support their mess. [13:41] alphageek (rooot@69-165-128-146.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Sushiyant: hi hamed :) [13:42] hello boyz, I have a little question [13:43] I'm compiling the gtk-engines package [13:43] and I want to save a log file of the process [13:43] what group should I be in to fix this: libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied. [13:43] brainvision: i am Blue-Slacker [13:43] so I do: sh gtk-engines.SlackBuild > log [13:44] (ehi bule-slacker :D [13:44] a moment, pvt [13:44] brainvision, bash -x ./gtk-engines.SlackBuild 2>&1 | tee file.log [13:44] so I do: sh gtk-engines.SlackBuild > log [13:44] oh thanx [13:44] powtrix: [13:44] :D [13:44] and another one [13:44] I get a strange advice.. [13:44] libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines' [13:45] more than one.. [13:45] I yet encountered those advicxxe on others packages [13:45] but they seems to be not important, aren't them? [13:45] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:46] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [13:46] howdy! [13:47] hai [13:47] brainvision: man script [13:47] anyone know why my PATA drive still named as PATA although i disable old IDE drive ? [13:47] *IDE driver [13:48] ang thnx I'll read just now [13:49] anavel, possibly because it's rolled into libata? [13:49] alisonken1home: yes, i am trying to compile kernel that's using libata completely. [13:50] but the PATA drive doesn't get sdX naming. [13:52] edthix (~ed@175.144.228.85) joined ##slackware. [13:54] arg: sorry but to what did you refer with man script?? [13:54] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] any idea ? [13:54] naaa.. [13:54] you are joking [13:54] uuups [13:54] sorry [13:54] so if i have this "RewriteRule ^catalog/(.*)$ index.php?submit=catalog&brand=$1 [L]" in my .htaccess along with rewriteengine on, why is it not turning /catagory/hayward in to /index.php?submit=catagory&brand=hayward? instead i just get this: "The requested URL /catalog/hayward was not found on this server." [13:54] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:56] nickals: put garbage in your .htaccess file, and see if you get a 500. [13:56] just like random text? [13:56] nickals: sure! [13:56] yes and no [13:56] ok [13:56] i put it in there, no 500 [13:57] so why is it not reading my .htaccess? [13:57] nickals: it's being ignored. Set the appropriate AllowOverride in your config file's block [13:57] nickals: note: do NOT edit the block [13:58] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:58] thumbs, lmao, knew it had to be something stupid i was over looking, ty so much bro, ive been pulling my hair out for two hours, lolol [13:59] nickals: sure. [13:59] hahaha now its all working perfectly, i am crackin up now [13:59] nickals: note that you should edit your vhost or config files instead. You don't need to use .htaccess files. [14:01] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-157-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:06] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:10] el_lobo (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:10] Sushiyant (hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:12] chegney: as I mentioned yesterday there is no dependency resolution [14:13] chegney: you need to read the README to figure out what you need [14:13] but the README for nitrogen only lists one requrement, but that requirement needs another, and then that requirement needs another... There's not an easier way? [14:14] visc0 (~mobile@host-90-235-46-92.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:15] chegney: you mean like in debian/ubuntu nope [14:15] I was thinking more of Gentoo [14:15] chegney: Gentoo ahh, same thing all 3 of those distros suck [14:16] I wouldn't say Gentoo sucks [14:16] I worked with Gentoo server farm for 2 years, trust me it sucks [14:16] maybe making a l33t desktop is ok but in production its a headache [14:16] never used it in a server environment [14:17] i've never used sbopkg, but it sounds like the issue you have is with the documentation and not the actual program [14:17] slackware is not for everybody [14:17] the documentation for nitrogen, rather [14:18] I think I could be sold on slackware if I could some how get a list of all dependancies needed to install a package without having to browse through several README files to get the whole list [14:18] sbopkg isn't a part of slackware [14:18] chegney: if that existed, slackware could do automatic dependencies itself [14:19] zaltekk: the same would apply for slackware pkgs, just by install pkg X binary, you would still need to install the pkgs its dependent on [14:19] chegney: max depths you will go is 2 [14:19] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.14.173) joined ##slackware. [14:19] pkg X requires pkg Y , pkg Y requires pkg Z [14:19] xsamurai: not true... look at nitrogen [14:19] thats about it [14:19] Is anybody here upgraded to the new kde in stable? [14:19] Action: xsamurai looking [14:20] InTel_BG: new KDE ? [14:20] xsamurai: i've never had dependency issues with the official packages. but then again, i tend to do a full install [14:20] 4.4.4 [14:21] ooh shiny [14:22] So I would like to ask if anyone have a problems with it and is there a problem with the versions of the other software [14:22] for example if i upgrade to 4.4.4 [14:22] InTel_BG: it should be fine. it's just a bugfix release [14:23] chegney: i see your point, sync the sbo repo, write up a little recursive script that parses the readme of the pkg you want to build, once it finds 'This requires' line it attempts to build those pkgs [14:23] chegney: when it comes to issues have dependency and automating installation , slackware lets the users handle it and thats the way we like slackware to stay [14:23] I haven't got 4.4.4 [14:23] nitrogen <- gtkmm <- glibmm <- libsigc++ [14:24] you forgot cairomm [14:24] a little scripting will do all that for you [14:24] if not build atleast collect the required pkgs list [14:24] xsamurai: I don't have a problem with how it works, it would just be nice if dependancies were documented better [14:25] chegney: well the Readme states what it needs , we can build trees upon trees of dependency resolutions for some pkgs [14:25] chegney: as hard as its to understand it takes some time to get use to but once you do it makes perfect sense [14:27] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.222) joined ##slackware. [14:27] the amount of time you spend thinking about it or doing it by hand, depending on how well versed you are it would take you 5 minutes to write up a script to handle what you want [14:31] chegney: btw what WM are you using ? [14:32] so is there a way to get just the readme and parse that for a line saying what it requires write that to a file, the do the same for that readm, so at the end you get a file with lines for all the dependancies you would need? [14:32] i'm using openbox [14:32] chegney: yeah a recursive script [14:33] so before i invent the wheel, has it been done already? [14:33] chegney: all this work for a bg browser, why not put all your bg's in one folder view them view gqview and set them to rotate view Esetroot [14:34] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.222) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:34] yes I understand that it's just a bg browser, but what if it was something much more important and larger [14:34] I can deal with this for nitrogen [14:35] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:35] like I said i've never had too much of a problem in terms of pkg dependency , i think by far nitrogen takes the cake [14:37] modthemod (~michael_w@mue-88-130-3-149.dsl.tropolys.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:38] modthemod (~michael_w@mue-88-130-3-149.dsl.tropolys.de) joined ##slackware. [14:38] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:44] LukeL_ (blah@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] chegney: I don't use it myself but Mauro may have done your work for you: http://gitorious.org/sbopkg-slackware-queues [14:48] go to the source tree and scoll down to nitrogen - @gtkmm will pull that in and whatever's needed for that will be @ed on down [14:52] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:54] do you guys use a special script to mirror / rsync a slackware ftp server [14:54] maybe that might be a good idea for a starting point for me creating a usb stick [14:54] dustybin: yeah, rsync -azPv --delete rsync://[your mirror]/slackware/slackware-current . [14:55] eviljames: why dont you mirror slackware64-13.1 instead of current [14:55] dustybin: I just keep re-running that command on slackware64-current.. maybe once / week or whenever the ChangeLog pops. [14:56] is there any reason why you need to mirror current? [14:56] why not mirror a release [14:56] I want current, because I'm confident I can fix any breakages. Other people may not want that. [14:56] eviljames: long time no see, I had no one to pick on all of last week [14:56] aye ok [14:56] xsamurai: hahah been wandering around in the big blue room [14:56] so on slackware, you might want to do 2 things [14:56] 1) rsync slackware current [14:57] 2) rsync slackbuilds [14:57] Yep, I keep my own tree of both. [14:57] with slackware-current you might want to --exclude="source/" [14:57] instead of rsyncing current, maybe rsync patches [14:57] for some people [14:57] rsync will ignore files that have not changed. [14:57] aye [14:58] So it's a big draw the first time, but subsequent updates are minor. [14:58] alienBOB has written some nice mirror scripts [14:58] Except in the case of something like kdei/ :P [14:58] Yes, he has indeed. It's best not to argue with the bob :P [14:58] heh [14:58] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ [14:58] umbez (~bez@212.183.140.11) joined ##slackware. [14:58] this looks interesting [14:58] usbimg2disk.sh [14:58] Adding his script to a cron job is not terribly difficult. [14:58] nvision (~nvision@g225051140.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:59] yep [14:59] mirror-slackware-current.sh [14:59] bzzz (~user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [14:59] mirror-alien-repository.sh [14:59] wow [14:59] rsync_slackware_patches.sh [15:00] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.222) joined ##slackware. [15:02] dustybin: usbimg2disk.sh is now also contained in Slackware's usb-and-pxe-installers directory [15:03] ace :D [15:04] nader (~nader@85.133.205.62) joined ##slackware. [15:05] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-092-076-175-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] slakmagik: but how do you use the sbopkg command with queue files... the -b option says it can search for them, do I need to keep an uptodate repository of queue files somewhere on the system? [15:07] nader (~nader@85.133.205.62) left irc: Client Quit [15:09] nader (~nader@85.133.205.62) joined ##slackware. [15:09] alienBOB: could i use that to install slackware onto a usb stick rather than using that just to boot the slackware installer [15:09] chegney: man sbopkg.conf - check out the QUEUEDIR variable [15:09] also read /usr/doc/sbopkg-VER/README-queuefiles [15:10] chegney: and, for recursive purposes, you'll likely want -i [15:16] slakmagik: okay so I QUEUEDIR variable, do you set that as a url or do you need to download something periodically to the location defined in QUEUEDIR? [15:16] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:17] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] j0z (~UNIX@201.22.37.198) joined ##slackware. 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To use Mauro's, I suppose there are instructions somewhere for downloading/checking out either directly to your QUEUEDIR or copying to it [15:21] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.222) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:21] dustybin: no, the script is only to create a USB installer, not to install Slackware onto a USB stick [15:22] dustybin: unetbootin [15:23] kozandr (~kozandr@forum.zelcom.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:23] Iam trying to create a udev rule for my device, where it always is root. how it would be `KERNEL=="uinput", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"` ? lsusb device: http://paste2.org/p/868576 [15:23] dustybin: unetbootin or dd if= of= bs= if in unix [15:23] (no need for script, imo) [15:23] kozandr (~kozandr@forum.zelcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:25] Action: byteframe gets his first copyright warning from isp. [15:25] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] gbit (~no@mail.daiby.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:27] byteframe: are you encrypting your traffic ? [15:27] xsamurai, I'm on 'prefer encryption'. [15:27] Should I 'force' it? [15:27] yeah that would make sense [15:28] slackytude (~slacky@g227095094.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:30] or stop using whatever copyright infringment you are using [15:31] nah [15:31] chegney: you expect him to stop downloading justin bieber songs! [15:31] lol [15:32] I c an encrypt my juhstin biber. [15:32] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] it works! [15:33] Mirroring slackware64-13.1 from slackware.osuosl.org::slackware/slackware64-13.1 ... [15:33] Action: Motoko-chan sighs [15:34] Stupid aic7xxx and fusionmpt conflicts... [15:35] *** Using ftp.slackware.org.uk::slackware/slackware64-13.1 *** [15:35] thats better :D [15:35] Action: dustybin feels excited [15:35] i could put that script in a cron [15:36] run it once a week [15:36] ? [15:36] im mirroring [15:36] I run it every day even [15:36] Ah. [15:36] aye good idea! nice script! [15:36] I mirror 12.1+ each day. [15:36] No updates makes for very light server use. [15:37] What script is this? [15:37] good point, thats the whole idea of rsync [15:37] Action: Motoko-chan wrote one too [15:37] 22 5,15 * * * /usr/local/sbin/mirror-slackware-current.sh -q -X none -o DVD [15:37] alienBOB: i set those options in the script [15:37] dustybin: always messy, editing a script. What if you want an updated version_ [15:37] oh yeah [15:37] DVD build? [15:37] Ah. [15:38] im doing dvd [15:38] I just local mirror for updates in my enviroment. [15:38] Beats having 10 servers all hitting a mirror. [15:38] i need to do something before i go mad [15:38] i need to stop vim creating little backups of the files i edit [15:39] Edit the default vimrc. [15:39] yep [15:39] Or make a local copy. [15:39] Agris (~agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:39] Action: Motoko-chan waits for kernel build to finish [15:39] Editing vimrc is best [15:39] set nobackup [15:40] /usr/share/vim/vimrc [15:40] how to update slackware 13 to slackware 13.1 [15:40] i read this http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [15:40] danix (~danix@host189-30-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:40] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:40] but not udnersend what the packages need to download ]; [15:41] That's the right document. [15:41] You need *all* the packages to upgrade with those instructinos. [15:41] instructions. [15:41] Action: Motoko-chan does live running upgrades, but has experience for the glitches that come from doing that [15:42] all 4 GB ? [15:43] alienBOB, your 4.4.4 packages seem much snappier to me than 4.4.3 was on my laptop [15:43] 4.4.4 I've heard is much snappier in general [15:43] thrice`: I must confess, I have not even had time to install my own packages... [15:43] alienBOB: hehe.. [15:43] how do you know they work? [15:43] if the script doesn't fail.... [15:43] Building 4.5.beta2 right now, so the computer is occupied... [15:43] ;) [15:44] mancha: huge trust in self ;-) [15:44] good times :) [15:44] lol [15:44] I can't explain it, but was extremely noticable. the 4.4.4 changelog seemed quite boring, too [15:44] heh [15:45] thrice`: How are the 'social networking' additions in it? [15:45] Action: dustybin re-downloads alienBOB script and leaves untouched [15:45] no clue, I still pkill nepom [15:46] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:47] alienBOB: shall i use this to mirror slackbuilds: mirror-alien-repository.sh ? [15:47] dustybin: run it once with the "-w" parameter, which will create a file with the same name but with .conf suffix, next to the .sh script (your account needs to be able to write there) [15:47] oh nice! [15:47] Then, edit the .conf file instead of the shell script... the .conf will be read and used [15:47] ace :D [15:47] The .conf will remain conpatible with future versions of the script [15:48] Run it with the "-c" parameter to check if there is a newer version of the script available [15:48] And run it with "-h" so that I can shut up now [15:49] im going to stick all those extra scripts in /root/bin [15:49] /usr/local/sbin [15:49] right ok! [15:49] good idea [15:50] what does the 's' mean in sbin ? [15:50] shell ? [15:50] superuser [15:50] oh! [15:50] supercalafragalisticexpialadocious [15:53] my bad [15:53] supercalifragilisticexpialidocious [15:55] Agris (~agris@109.110.2.248) joined ##slackware. [15:56] kwikness (kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [15:57] im going to put my mirrors inside /home/ftp [16:00] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-116-145.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:04] It's where I have them, so all my computers on the LAN can access them using ftp [16:04] kwikness (kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:04] kwikness (kwikness@24.128.93.202) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Agris (~agris@109.110.2.248) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:05] alienBOB: good idea! [16:06] im sure i will not need current, im not advanced enough yet [16:06] im going to mirror the stable release [16:06] i think the only thing what would change is the patches dir [16:06] Keeping a 13.1 mirror is already nice - you will get the patches automatically [16:06] :D [16:07] If you setup your mail delivery correctly, then cron will send you a nice email when there was activity in the mirror script [16:07] And stay silent if there was no change [16:07] i need to put a postfix root alias [16:07] ace :D [16:07] Hence the "-q" in my example... [16:07] i see [16:08] luiss_ (~luiss@host95-181-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:08] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] 22 5,15 * * * /usr/local/sbin/mirror-slackware-current.sh -q -X none [16:08] i will not use -o DVD, already put that in the .conf file [16:09] dustybin: "-r 13.1" will mirror Slackware 13.1 instead of -current [16:09] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:09] Unless you changed that in the script too [16:09] alienBOB: i created the .conf file and put all those details inside that [16:09] O good [16:10] You can move the "-q -X none" into the script .conf as well if you want [16:10] the only thing left is to mirror sbo [16:10] aye ok [16:10] hufnus (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] *** Using rsync.osuosl.org::slackware/slackware64-13.1 *** [16:11] :D [16:12] gbit (~no@mail.daiby.com.br) left irc: Quit: go vegan! [16:13] hufnus (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] hufnus (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:27] chegney, try to apply this patch: http://mancha.pastebin.com/4ZaZS0S5 [16:28] undo all *your* changes, put that patch file in the top level of your expanded source and patch -p0 it [16:28] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:29] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [16:30] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D4CF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:30] luiss_ (~luiss@host95-181-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:33] what do I name the file? [16:33] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:33] iluvmancha.diff [16:33] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [16:34] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-092-076-175-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:34] hehe [16:34] heh [16:34] what was the name of that useful slackware tool for managing packages? [16:34] nooneelse (~brunodeol@unaffiliated/nooneelse) joined ##slackware. [16:34] *is [16:34] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] then you put it in your expanded source dir (top level) and do: patch -p0 --verbose < iluvmancha.diff [16:34] patch -p0 iluvmancha.diff ?? [16:34] hi everyone, there is some way to see if there any bandwidth limit rule on my interface ?? [16:35] http://www.sbopkg.org/ interesting! [16:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432731.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Hunk #2 FAILED at 7. / Hunk #3 FAILED at 13. / patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line / Hunk #4 FAILED at 14. / 3 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/gtkcompletionline.cc.rej / done [16:38] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:38] botnet (~void@c-71-197-176-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] ok, gimme a second... [16:39] chegney: I don't know what gmrun is (and don't really know what grun is, either) but wouldn't grun do? that *is* in the repo [16:39] hey alienBOB, are you available? [16:40] also, if there are gentoo patches, they should be publically available and you could apply them to your source in the slackbuild [16:41] pnq (asdf@ACA397B4.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:42] hmmm, I wonder if gmrun became grun [16:43] chegney, i just made a new patch: http://mancha.pastebin.com/wM1CrJmz [16:43] restart and use this one instead. [16:44] anybody here use sbopkg? [16:44] or is it a fugly hack? [16:44] sbopkg is a huge time saver [16:45] sbopkg is great. [16:45] i cannot find a sbopkg slackbuild on slackbuilds.org [16:45] that's ironic [16:45] yeah :D [16:45] dustybin: it's on sbopkg.org and is a script - read it yourself and decide how fugly it is [16:46] :D [16:46] im going to compile from source rather than using the ready made package [16:47] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [16:48] hmm. Im having trouble with oidentd starting up. I had it in rc.local. it worked until today. now it dont start, I also tried to write a rc.oidentd script but still no go. I have to manually start it now.. what has gone wrong? [16:49] or what can be wrong:) [16:49] Kowal, that makes no sense, figure out what you changed. Slackware doesn't have a will of its own! :) [16:49] nooneelse (~brunodeol@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: [16:50] that patch succeeded, but i'm still getting a build error http://mancha.pastebin.com/3V6tVret [16:50] error or warning? [16:50] error [16:50] and do you have a binary built in the src dir? [16:51] nope [16:51] invalid conversion from int to int errors [16:51] did you start from scratch? rm the dir and re-expand the tarball? [16:51] yes I did [16:51] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:51] hrmm, works here. :/ [16:52] I didnt change anything [16:52] gcc --version ? [16:52] 4.4.4 [16:52] only thing I changed was I setup bind on another server :P [16:52] sbopkg is bloody excellent [16:52] i was not expecting this [16:52] ok, that seems to be it. give me a second. [16:53] i have to ssh over to a boxen with a newer gcc [16:53] and now run bind on a server instead of the router. after that it didnt work. so I didnt change anything [16:53] sbopkg has found all my ready installed slackbuilds :D [16:54] dustybin: of course it did. [16:55] it worked in 13.0 not sure in 13.1 when I think about it. didnt reboot after I added that to rc.local before today. hmm [16:56] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:57] so not sure why it doesnt work [16:57] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_chrap [16:58] chegney try this please: http://mancha.pastebin.com/W4z0fE7c [16:59] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.235.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:01] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:02] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBBBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all o/ [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-247.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] byteframe, lmao [17:05] masterslakk, your ass is off? [17:05] Sorry. [17:05] bieber fan! [17:05] I actually have no idea who that is. [17:06] ass on; ass off; the asser [17:06] Icelandic boy band? [17:06] ...' [17:06] sush [17:06] i'm takikng a shower [17:08] NeanT (~me@188.27.113.126) joined ##slackware. [17:08] sinuhe_ (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:09] for those who use adoo-doo's flash player, upgrade the 10.1 rc [17:10] *upgrade to [17:10] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] mancha, security? [17:10] mancha: adoodoo was coined by me , please add the (c)xsamurai everytime you use it [17:11] botnet (~void@c-71-197-176-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:11] mancha: that failed again, differently, I've gotta take off, i'll look for you later [17:11] get *.tar.gz [17:11] mancha: thanks for your help though! [17:11] no problem, too bad it didn't work [17:12] byteframe yes [17:12] mancha, thanks for the tip. [17:12] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Quit: edman007 [17:12] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-157-9.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:12] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [17:12] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [17:13] it's a pretty cool little app when it works [17:13] sinuhe_ (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:13] http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_rc7_linux_060210.so.tar.gz [17:15] chegney let me see if i can compile a portable version for you, one sec [17:15] Action: byteframe uses adobe-flash-player slackbuild [17:15] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:16] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. 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[17:48] yes, i used all package from SBo [17:48] what's the error [17:49] from the kino window, there is a problem with module raw1394, but it is load [17:49] or, read/write with device /dev/raw1394 [17:49] explain it so i can try to reproduce here [17:50] install kino from SBo [17:50] load module raw1394 [17:50] connect cam with firewire cable, and try to use it [17:51] poplin_dp (~diego@swamp.physics.upenn.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ok, never mind, i don't have any firewire devices here i can play withg [17:51] if i chmod -R naitso:user /dev/raw1394 [17:51] all works but i think thai isn't the correct way [17:51] *that [17:52] the problem maybe with udev rules? [17:52] yeah maybe [17:52] matzenh (~mateus@187.64.42.110) joined ##slackware. [17:52] or are you in the right groups? what is /dev/raw1394's group before you fuss with chowns? [17:53] yes, my user was in disk group [17:53] disk? 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[18:29] cre [18:29] how do set up touchpad [18:29] i [18:29] crashdata, next release of slackware? [18:29] cr3, synaptics? [18:30] dude, the current one is not even 2 weeks old, innit a little early for the "when's the new one coming out?" nonsense? :) [18:30] ya [18:30] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:30] is 13.1 official? [18:30] there's no synaptics for sbopkg -g [18:30] that is not good [18:30] cr3, synaptics is shipped with slackware [18:31] xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.2-i486-1 [18:31] crashdata, did you even look? [18:31] crashdata, yes, 13.1 is the current stable release. And as usual the next will be released when its ready. [18:32] it might take a while, or not. :) [18:32] oops [18:32] cool [18:32] synaptics is console command? [18:32] nvision (~nvision@g225051140.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:32] did not know it came out already [18:32] because you didn't look :) [18:32] cr3, synclient is a console command, but synaptics is just a driver for synaptics touchpads, do you know who manufactured yours? [18:33] no [18:33] when did it came out? [18:33] LOOK [18:33] www.slackware.com [18:33] el_lobo (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:33] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-170-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:33] after i get off the phone with one of my client :) [18:34] DylanJ (dylan@unaffiliated/dylanj) left ##slackware. [18:34] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:34] So you can multitask well enough to be on here to ask the question when you're on the phone, but you can't multitask well enough to go to the website while you're on the phone? [18:34] i cant go to the website [18:34] im using my netbook [18:34] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:34] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-171-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:34] Netbooks have browsers [18:35] i know nvm [18:35] uheuheauh [18:35] i'll check it later, thanks [18:35] crashdata, use lynks =D [18:35] lynx* [18:37] i do not comprehend [18:37] i typing with one hand [18:37] synaptics driver is not loaded [18:37] modprober synaptics? [18:37] -r [18:38] cr3, you need to discover what is you touchpad. [18:39] Xenius[xchat] (~Xenius@81.18.126.63) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:41] lspci? [18:42] i can't find it [18:44] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-171-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [18:47] john_dee (~id@95-29-190-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [18:51] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[19:12] can i just update my system to 13.1 using slackpkg ? [19:12] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) joined ##slackware. [19:13] yes; slackpkg's manpage shows the 4 steps you need [19:13] good stuff, thrice :) [19:16] dios_mio (test@88.243.2.124) left irc: Quit: We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. [19:17] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:18] thrice`: must have full ISO? [19:18] no, slackpkg works over the network :) [19:20] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [19:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.251.85) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:22] ok [19:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:23] how does our version numbering work? [19:24] our version numbering? [19:24] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:24] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:24] yah from 12.2 to 13.0 to 13.1 [19:24] how many versions must a dist step thru, before you can call it a dist [19:25] lol [19:25] i assume major releases would be 10.0 12.0 13.0? [19:26] ...but not 11.0? [19:26] There was an 11.0 [19:26] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-76-112-241-229.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:26] lol i hadnt heard of this.. Another example of keeping up with competitors is when Slackware Linux jumped from version 4 to version 7 in 1999. [19:26] is this true? hahaha [19:26] didnt mean to leave that out [19:26] ToeKutter (ToeKutter@c-76-31-224-88.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:27] 10.2 ftw [19:27] yes, but I believe that is supposed to be the last version jump :) of course unless it isn't [19:28] Considering Ubuntu uses YY.MM for release dates, it'll catch up in two to three years possibly. [19:28] easier to just put the date as version.. or ? [19:28] RedHat is back in 5.x with RHEL [19:28] Motoko-chan: possibly? :P [19:28] just count em [19:28] Dunno what SLED/SLES/OpenSuSE is at. [19:28] madbear, assuming the project keeps that numbering scheme and is viable that far down the road. [19:28] Current version? 11.2 [19:29] yes [19:29] 11.3 is next. [19:29] so how do u guys decide to call it 13.1 instead of 14.0? [19:30] i didnt [19:30] crashdata: there is no 'guys'. one person decides that [19:30] yes i forgot [19:30] if i could i would say its slackware ultra 2000 [19:30] 2000 is very old [19:30] :) [19:30] slackware is old! :P [19:30] my mom is old! [19:31] i'm just saying y not 2010 [19:31] so is my grandma [19:31] :) [19:31] slackware is a young little system thats still gorgeous [19:31] how does patrick decide? [19:32] Ouja board [19:32] dang, i was thinking coin toss [19:32] nwayz i'm happy we are updated :) [19:34] yes what about versioning numbers anyways [19:36] heaumer (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:36] heaumer_ (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:41] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:41] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:43] NeanT (~me@188.27.113.126) left irc: Quit: bye [19:44] Motoko-chan, thats a girls name right? [19:45] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. 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[20:06] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [20:07] any screen experts awake? [20:07] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.27.3) joined ##slackware. [20:08] haha [20:08] They're all a bit detached. [20:08] haha [20:09] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Is there any obvious reason why I wouldn't be able to start a screen session over ssh, when I can set one up locally and access it over ssh? [20:09] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:10] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:10] kde 4.4.4 is a bit better than 4.4.3 ;) thanks alienBOB for it [20:10] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:10] more stable as well [20:10] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:11] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [20:11] darkwurm: I don't know of any reason, no [20:11] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:11] darkwurm: in fact, screen would be pretty useless to me if I couldn't do that with it [20:11] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@host146-125-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:12] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [20:12] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:14] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [20:15] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:15] rworkman: agreed it's quite useless to me atm to a osx host [20:15] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [20:15] never have such issues linux boxes [20:15] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.73.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:15] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [20:16] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.73.2) joined ##slackware. [20:16] over the last two days I think I've visited about 60 websites that mention screen, I have yet to come up with anything. Stumped to be honest. [20:18] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:19] slackytude|evil (~slacky@f051010083.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:20] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:20] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.73.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:21] _S4MUR4I_ (~S4MUR4I@187.40.73.2) joined ##slackware. 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[20:34] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] greetings and salutations [20:35] chendy (~coolshoul@116.30.143.240) joined ##slackware. [20:35] jacob_ (~jacob@cpe-76-171-172-148.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] felicitations [20:35] Hello everyone, I'm considering using SlackWare. [20:35] I have a few questions though, that i can't seem to get off the website. [20:35] 42 [20:35] What is the default slackware desktop enviroment? [20:35] Nick change: chendy -> im65KG [20:36] none [20:36] none? [20:36] yes, none [20:36] Is it like a wannabe Arch Linux? [20:36] no [20:36] i'm lost [20:36] too bad [20:36] You are telling me a 4.1GB Linux distro [20:36] Doesn't have a desktop enviroment [20:36] jacob_: there is none. ypou select the one you want at install time [20:36] You get to choose between KDE or XFCE4. Neither is setup by default. [20:36] it has several but none are "default" [20:36] it has several desktop environments, the default however is none [20:36] ohhh [20:36] There are also fluxbox, windowmaker, blackbox to choose from. [20:36] Is GNOME one of them? [20:36] No. [20:36] NO!? [20:36] NOOOOOOOOO?!?!?! [20:36] no [20:37] no. [20:37] jacob_: actually Arch linux is based on Slackware so it's more the otherway around :) [20:37] Hmm [20:37] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [20:37] So my de options are KDE, XFCE4, FluxBox, windowmaker, or BlackBox? [20:37] jacob_: There are projects to bring gnome to slackware, including GSB, but it is not included by default. [20:37] jacob_: no, you can isntall GNOME,. It just doesn't come as part of the official distribution [20:38] I think fvwm might be one of those options. [20:38] alright well i'm going to give slacky a shot [20:38] my only issue will be [20:38] i'm not sure if i have spare DVDs lying around [20:38] i only have CDs.. [20:38] you only need disc one [20:38] diskc 2 if you want KDE [20:38] you still dont need the disc [20:39] true [20:39] you can install slackware then pull kde via slackpkg [20:39] But you can download whatever packages you didn't have after you install from disk 1 [20:39] hi all, anyone to help me pls [20:39] okay you all have me lost [20:39] I have the 4.1GB 64-bit slackware 13.1 download [20:40] slackytude|evil (~slacky@f051010083.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:40] What are you talking about these 'disks1 and disks2' [20:40] jacob_: if you used CD's [20:40] rater than DVD [20:41] the 64 bit version only comes as a CD. you will have to mount the ISO for the DVD and use the packages on it to create the CD(s) [20:41] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:41] old pcs use cd drive, not dvd [20:42] sorry, only comes as a DVD... [20:42] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:42] iceheart (~nihao@61.164.141.178) joined ##slackware. [20:44] iceheart (~nihao@61.164.141.178) left irc: Client Quit [20:45] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [20:46] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.52.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:48] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.13.15) joined ##slackware. [20:48] hi all, anyone to help me pls [20:49] Jennifur (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:49] pnq (asdf@172.130.100.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:50] bzzz, no, because no one knows what your problem is [20:50] bzzz: dont ask to ask, just ask your question [20:51] i want to install slackware 13.1 :) [20:51] http://img714.imageshack.us/f/93038940.png/ [20:51] this is good or no? [20:51] bzzz: also dont randomly pm people [20:51] my english is noo good sory ]; [20:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] that works bzzz [20:51] :) [20:52] bzzz: http://www.slackbook.org/ [20:52] :) [20:52] ok reticenti tnx [20:52] yes, the slackbook is good [20:52] agris no speak angliish good [20:52] http://slackbook.org/translations.html [20:52] bzzz: ^ [20:52] ok tnx angaiy:) [20:52] bzzz: you can read, right? :) [20:53] bzzz, where are you from? [20:53] bulgaria [20:53] http://slackbook.geodar.com/ bzzz [20:54] now view and understend :) [20:55] Jennifur (~Jenny@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [21:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-174-232.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [21:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:16] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [21:20] You guys [21:20] I have like 2 words for you [21:20] Honeydews are fucking awesome [21:20] Nom nom nom [21:20] that's like four words... [21:20] Fuck you [21:20] and three yummy sounds [21:20] You don't like honeydews [21:21] I'm sorry shonudo [21:21] It's just that [21:21] This is one hell of a honeydew [21:21] You know [21:23] nophis (1000@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [21:23] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [21:24] rworkman, are you there? :) [21:25] dngr (~dngr@119.237.151.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:28] Srbo (~Srbo@79.101.240.49) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:29] dios_mio (1000@88.243.2.124) joined ##slackware. [21:29] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Xenius[xchat] (~Xenius@81.18.126.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:29] i am logging on from my cool new slack 13.1 [21:30] There's already one person who as a server admin complains about 2.6.33.4's unstability with LVM. I'm likely to understand why PV wants to keep slackware stable. Slackware keeps servers in mind. [21:31] pnq (asdf@ACA28F28.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Slackware's default configuration is rather for server than for desktops. The customization is up to users. [21:31] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:31] crocket: using latest and greatest kernel in production is just crazy [21:31] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:32] ananke : which is 2.6.33.4 in this case? [21:33] crocket: nevermind, i misread the numbers [21:33] However, I see slackware as a totally customizable bleeding-edge linux... [21:33] It's up to me. [21:33] nophis (1000@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:36] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:37] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:38] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:38] jacob_ (~jacob@cpe-76-171-172-148.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:40] Does one need to make modifications to lilo.conf to handle the resume images for hibernate/suspend-to-disk? [21:41] afu (~sgendle@cpe-24-162-163-43.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:41] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:42] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:42] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [21:45] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:46] afu (~sgendle@cpe-24-162-163-43.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:46] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:47] byteframe: yes; see /usr/doc/pm-utils-*/README.SLACKWARE [21:47] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:48] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:48] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) joined ##slackware. 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[22:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:54] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: of all the things I hate, I fugre a beer is good [22:56] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:57] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [22:58] can someone provide me with assistance with grub? [22:58] http://pastebin.com/WPFTf3ED [22:58] select the third boot option give a error 15 file not found [22:59] why rootnoverify on a linux filesystem? [22:59] zaltekk: was hoping that would help [22:59] ls /boot [23:00] apparently the kernel and/or initrd aren't there [23:00] ok hold a sec [23:01] http://pastebin.com/9NtT7ajv [23:02] you are telling it to look at /dev/sda3 though [23:02] what's there? [23:02] my bt4 install [23:02] Prefect (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:02] so /dev/sda3/boot/vmlinuzz-2.6.30.9 exists? [23:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:03] yup [23:03] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:03] can you paste your fstab and fdisk -l? [23:03] sure [23:04] so i can get a better idea of what you are doing [23:04] here is the partition setup [23:04] http://pastebin.com/yuVjBXci [23:05] so vmlinuz-2.6.30.9 is in two places ? [23:05] and your fstab for both installs? [23:05] thrice`: that's what i'm wondering. i think he is confused about the meaning of root in grub. [23:05] and here is filesystem table [23:05] http://pastebin.com/v0PQgRnF [23:05] gogie (~toytoy@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [23:05] TriniTuX: if you have to operating systems you should have two fstabs [23:06] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] yes but I should not get a file not found at the grub line [23:06] it should boot and then panic without a / [23:06] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:06] remember grub has tab completion at the interactive command line [23:06] TriniTuX: not if it is looking for the kernel in the wrong place [23:06] Anyone else finding that xchat's connect button is showing 'C_onnect' (separate underscore) and not letting you hit Alt-O? [23:07] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [23:07] well I copied the vmlinuz and initrd to my slack /boot to make sure [23:07] why do you have both the slackware and backtrack kernels in the same /boot? [23:07] zaltekk: does it matter? [23:07] just 'cause he's tryin' stuff ? [23:08] thats what most of the documentation suggests [23:08] You do understand bt4 is ubuntu based. [23:08] yup again I'm not familiar with the internals of ubuntu but I dont' see how that affects booting a kernel [23:08] so you mounted /dev/sda3 by hand, then TriniTuX ? [23:08] yep [23:08] veritos, yeah, but haven't tried Alt-O [23:08] we don't know its mount point from that fstab [23:08] ok [23:09] well, it sounds like there isn't a kernel on /dev/sda3/boot [23:09] at least not with the filename that you gave grub [23:09] which is whats confusing me [23:09] its there [23:09] list it for us :) [23:09] k [23:10] oh, what filesystem is /dev/sda3 ? [23:10] http://pastebin.com/JpqB0XxH [23:10] ext3 [23:11] I'm relatively new to grub [23:11] but I did not succeed with lilo either [23:11] poking around with the command line editor might be the best way to find the problem [23:11] at the grub> [23:12] I tried find vmlinuz [23:12] not found [23:12] yeah, it has "help" and tab completion [23:12] ok [23:12] then find /vmlinuz [23:12] and it points to /dev/sda3 [23:12] which is wrong [23:12] that should point to /dev/sda1 [23:12] or hd0,0 [23:12] dios_mio (1000@88.243.2.124) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:13] you should have a vmlinuz on both if you want ot boot from both [23:14] zaltekk: could you elaborate? [23:14] hmm [23:14] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:14] you should be able to find it as (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz[TAB] [23:15] and afaik grub would work on a default ext3 partition [23:15] the error would be different anyways if the fs were the problem [23:15] trhodes: yes which is why I stuck with the ext3 [23:16] TriniTuX: so try manually booting from the grub command line [23:16] zaltekk: the command 'find /vmlinuz-2.6.30.9' fails to locate anything [23:16] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] and use the tab completion to make sure you get it correct [23:18] but if I say find /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30.9 [23:18] set the root(hd0,2) first [23:18] it finds it on hd0,0 and hd0,2 [23:18] root (hd0,02)[ENTER/RETURN]kernel /boot/vmlinuz[TAB][ENTER/RETURN]initrd /boot/initrd[TAB][ENTER/RETURN] [23:18] well, that's because it is under /boot [23:18] since you aren't using a /boot partition [23:19] maybe try taking it off hd(0,0) until this is fixed [23:19] dios_mio (1000@88.243.2.124) joined ##slackware. [23:19] zaltekk: I'm studying what you just posted [23:19] how do i change the keyboard layout in fluxbox? [23:19] trhodes: well thats what I'm using now [23:20] Prefect (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:20] does the /dev/sda3 need to be flagged as bootable? [23:21] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:21] ZMR (zmonge@201.206.18.30) left ##slackware. [23:21] that won't cause a file not found error [23:21] ok [23:21] the bios is the only thing afaik that cares about that [23:21] doesn't grub not rely on the bios? [23:21] I thought that was only lilo [23:22] grub can chainload os'es and only one can be flagged bootable [23:22] (on this hardware) [23:22] right, ok [23:24] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [23:25] zaltekk: and I suppose I have to run that at boot? [23:25] yeah [23:25] ok, should it work I'll mend the menu.lst to suit [23:26] trying now [23:26] TriniTuX (clayton@cuscon151816.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware. [23:27] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:27] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:27] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:31] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:32] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] TriniTuX (~clayton@cuscon151816.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [23:34] zaltekk: your suggestion worked with some modifications [23:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [23:35] I had to add root=/dev/hda3 [23:35] dios_mio (1000@88.243.2.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:36] (older version of udev) [23:36] so you just had to modify the kernel parameters? [23:37] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] yes [23:37] i wonder why the original configuration didn't work [23:37] I also removed the ro and vga params [23:38] true [23:38] trhodes: if he toled the kernel that the root was at /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda3 doesn't exist, it isn't going to be happy [23:38] Helen Thomas++ [23:38] but he got file not found before [23:39] i wonder if the rootnoverify was to blame [23:39] he said he added that in an attempt to fix the error [23:39] yeah [23:40] which is why I'm confused [23:40] the issue was most likely that the grub configuration was created on the system that sees (hd0,2) as /dev/sda3, but the other system sees it as /dev/hda3, causing it to not be seen [23:41] theres just one hiccup with that theory [23:41] it reads menu.lst at boot time, no ? [23:41] I didn't install any bootloader when I installed bt4 [23:41] because grub was already installed [23:41] thrice`: yes [23:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] TriniTuX: so you created the entries? [23:41] I thought all I needed was an entry [23:41] yes [23:41] libata changes. [23:42] but you put /dev/sda3 instead of /dev/hda3 [23:42] yep just too see if it would crash [23:42] which was correct on slackware, but incorrect on backtrack. thus backtrack couldn't use that parameter [23:42] it should have dropped me to a ramfs [23:42] but instead I got a file not found [23:42] from grub ? [23:42] yep file not found from grub [23:43] that doesn't make sense [23:43] it should be a kernel panic [23:43] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.27.79) joined ##slackware. [23:43] well I got a busy box prompt [23:43] well even if I got a kernel panic which should rightly have happened grub didn't let me get to that point [23:43] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] I guess what was wrong when I tried to install slackware from an ISO file. [23:46] well I'm going to reboot again having duplicated the menu.lst with the manual params [23:46] which should work [23:46] ha ha [23:47] see you folks in a sec [23:47] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:47] TriniTuX (clayton@cuscon151816.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware. [23:48] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:48] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:53] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] _o/ [23:54] wasn't that param for kernel hda=noprobe for TriniTux? [23:56] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:59] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:00] --- Tue Jun 8 2010