[00:00] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-170-57.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:00] how well do ati cards run in linux? [00:00] especially with wine? [00:01] well im running a HD4850 right now, works really well [00:01] kiwiguy, how are games in wine? [00:02] newegg is selling a powercolor 4830 for $65 [00:02] sorry ive not actually tried, but id imagine thered run fine, which game are you trying to play? [00:02] its a lot faster than my 9600GT in windows at least [00:02] i have wine installed right now, ill do a test if you want [00:02] you have warcraft 3? [00:03] sorry nope, but according to winedb that game should run fine, so as long as your driver runs fine, it shouldnt be a problem [00:03] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [00:03] ok [00:04] thats the only game i play a lot in linux [00:04] yeah classic game too, i used to play it alot, havent got a copy though [00:05] Fenix-Dark, the closed source driver sucks compared to the nvidia one, and its significantly slower than you would expect [00:05] edman007, thats a shame [00:06] i've only had nvidia cards so far [00:06] the opensource driver for that card has all the docs and specs available to it, and its only a matter of time for that card to be good with the open source driver [00:06] they are expecting to be able to get something game worthy in 4-6 months with the open source driver [00:06] i have nothing against them (nvidia), i dont care that they only offer a binary blob driver, but if this ati card works with wc3 in wine, i'm sold [00:07] so, right now nvidia is better if you want speed, but expect it to be better with ati in the near future (though maybe not speed, but generally support and buggieness) [00:07] i'm going to assume 2d accel and the usual stuff works fine [00:07] I heard arch droped ati support [00:08] should work with wine though... [00:08] hows the driver installation? [00:08] Fenix-Dark, the stable open source driver has faster 2d than the binary blob right now ;) [00:08] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@dhcp133107.salley.fsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:09] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:09] Fenix-Dark, with the open source, there is none, its included, with the closed source, ./ati-installer-*.sh --buildpkg Slackware/All; upgradepkg --install-new *.tgz; so very nice on slack [00:09] i don't think the nvidia one has an integrated slackbuild like the ati one [00:11] nah [00:12] for nvidia you just download their binary driver and sh NVIDIA-Installer-...sh and thats about it [00:12] yea, but the ati one is better, it has a slackbuild in there, so pkgtool actually can track the files, makes it a LOT easier when you try to switch drivers [00:13] since they both overwrite libGL, meaning 3d breaks if you remove them [00:13] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] well yeah the ati driver works really well on my system, but the latest ones dont work at all [00:15] the newest ones need a kernel recompile, 8-12 works though [00:15] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.7.182) left irc: "Leaving" [00:15] yeah stick with 8-12 [00:16] even their own stream SDK don't work with their latest drivers [00:17] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:21] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] greetings and salutations [00:22] ZeuZ (n=ZeuZ@unaffiliated/zeuz/x-778294) joined ##slackware. [00:22] well met, good sir. [00:22] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:23] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:23] Hey all, I'm looking for a pretty offtopic question regarding QoS [00:24] Anyone up for it? [00:24] ask and if someone knows or wants to answer they will [00:24] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Cool to know I won't get flamed for the offtopic [00:25] I'm about to bring up an ISP wich will serve 500+ people, not only serving them Internet service, but also VoIP [00:26] What I'm dealing now with is, should I go for Altq and pf with freeBSD/OpenBSD core? or stick to netfilter and CBQ? Since HTB is pretty democratic, but it won't guarantee the minimum my users pay for [00:26] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] And ISPs have always guarenteed the minimum people pay for =P [00:29] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:29] Is there anyway you could set it up so there is a min and once that min is hit the program tries to re-organize the data so it is more efficient? [00:30] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-48-56.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:30] DeiBellum, I at least have enough bandwidth to cover the maximum I'm selling to the whole user set [00:30] wich leaves me with spare bandwidth [00:31] We're contracting a 25mbps simmetric with Telecom [00:31] Camera over IP is also going to be implemented in the long run [00:31] Still, I didn't get what you meant about reorganizing it [00:32] Well from what it looks to me as if you are saying (and I could be completely off on this) is that if you use the HTB there might be a point at which you will fall below the minimum speed you sent to your users [00:33] hey, my flash sound will drop out in firefox after a while? Anyone have this experience? [00:33] not me [00:33] I just have to restart [00:33] use opera? [00:33] works fine for hours at a time [00:33] FF [00:33] So, if there was a way that say if that minimum point is hit (and I am not sure how you would figure that out, I am just trying to toss in Ideas) it could change the QoS to make sure that the minimum is maintained [00:33] redownload flash? [00:34] pirving, which version are you using? [00:34] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] "The bland leadeth the bland and they both shall fall into the kitsch." [00:34] hmmm about:plugins? [00:34] DeiBellum, sorry, I was trying to figure why this: http://i40.tinypic.com/mshmwj.jpg [00:34] is happening to one of our forum users [00:35] pirving, make sure flash is using alsa and everything else is using alsa, or possible a sound daemon (and i don't know if flash can use a sound daemon thingy) [00:35] Now, back to that: I beleave there could, but if I define a ceil and a max rate for it, counting on HTB, for some reason it won't "keep the flame burning" [00:35] Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15 [00:36] pirving, but the issue sounds like either one app is using /dev/dsp, which blocks everything from connecting (and new instances of flash will fail), or you are hitting the limit of connections supported by your sound card [00:36] Anyone to help me brainstorm about this situation? [00:36] Amorak [00:36] or whatever it's called [00:36] Or, to give me their personal experience? [00:36] ZeuZ, from the looks of that error you have either a SQL problem or a SQL Sanitation problem [00:36] Amarok [00:36] DeiBellum, no kiddin :D [00:36] =P [00:37] DeiBellum, apparently it happens to another user wich has had a "complicated story" [00:37] hmm, I do have Amarok shutdown, but I used it a little while before [00:37] So I'm just thinking on suspending that users account priviledges [00:37] ZeuZ, sounds like a good plan to start with until you can find the problem [00:39] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Thing is, we're using an old version of vBulletin since we bought the license for it.. [00:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:39] Most likely, a bad coded plugin did the shit on its way [00:40] ZeuZ, you bought the license, and the name of that site makes it quite ironic. =P [00:41] Well, I didn't, I've been summed to the staff quite recently, and frankly, it's annoying because I don't have the keys to go upgrade it with a nulled version [00:42] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] cmKzzz (n=martink@122-57-170-35.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:43] Action: MLanden testing connections [00:44] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:45] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:46] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Back [00:48] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:49] front [00:49] side to side [00:49] sorry,couldn't resist..:D [00:49] abraxas (n=abraxas@69.37.100.21) joined ##slackware. [00:49] gettin giggy with it :o [00:50] abraxas (n=abraxas@69.37.100.21) left ##slackware. [00:50] ok, opera is pretty fast. I like the + shortcut for a new tab...nice feature. Bookmarks easy to manage....one problem. In my plugins, it lists gxine, flash, but no java...is this gonna be a problem? [00:51] pirving: I use opera for browser and mail and love it. [00:51] wait, firefox doesn't have java either. [00:52] Action: pirving is drinking a cold frothy Sam Adams beer [00:52] Action: DeiBellum is easting an orange and having earl grey tea [00:52] eating* [00:52] firebird619: I'll try it out for a while and see the community [00:52] I'll join #opera [00:52] pretty dead channel [00:53] #firefox has far more [00:53] pirving: Yeah, it's always a dead channel. You can ask a question and wait for hours and never get a response. [00:53] 88 vs 18 [00:53] lol, so you use it exclusivly? [00:54] bittin (i=bittin@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-33b65c5519ab0593) joined ##slackware. [00:54] firebird? [00:54] ... [00:54] pirving: For the most part, yes. Sometimes I use ff if a site doesn't load right in opera. [00:54] pirving: but for me, that isn't very often. [00:55] in firefox you can pretend or mask the fact you are running firefox and say you are running IE correct? [00:55] Is that option available emulation? [00:55] or is that a software add-on? [00:55] lol [00:56] pirving: I think ff has a addon to do that, yes. Opera has that also built-in. You can add to the toolbar and you can pick FF, IE, or Opera. [00:56] pirving: It is the User Agent switcher addon in FF iirc. [01:01] I like the speed dial [01:01] there is a speed dail addon for Firefox [01:02] kiwiguy (i=kiwiguy@server1.bshellz.net) left irc: "[BX] Get your free warez from ftp://127.0.0.1!" [01:02] That is a nice feature...'specially if you have your computer setup as a kiosk [01:03] wow msync with A_SYNC is slooowww [01:03] i mean MS_SYNC [01:04] how slow,nooper? [01:04] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] I can't load digg.com [01:04] pirving: in opera? [01:04] loads fine for me ;x [01:05] loads for me too. [01:05] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:05] MLanden: just to compare, i'm writing a 1 gig file, in 3 different ways. 1: fwrite, 2: msync with MS_ASYNC, 3: msycn with MS_SYNC. results so far are: 1: 20 seconds, 2: 40 seconds, 3: still running, started 5 mins ago [01:05] dig + ping + traceroute = reason for digg.com not loading :) [01:05] OUCH,nooper [01:05] OH NOES?! [01:07] are you experiencing the digg.com problem firebird? I can subscribe to the feeds [01:07] pirving: No, digg works fine here. [01:08] pirving, no problems with Digg here [01:08] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:15] How are people doing tonight? [01:16] I'm good. How are you acidchild? [01:17] there are people here? damn i was lied to :( [01:17] not bad thanks :-) [01:17] time to find something interesting on justin.tv [01:18] good work [01:21] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [01:25] take care,folks [01:26] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:28] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:28] anyone here use drupal by chance? [01:28] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:29] Just curious on feed back about what you think about it is all. [01:45] ZeuZ (n=ZeuZ@unaffiliated/zeuz/x-778294) left irc: "Me jui" [01:46] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.151.195) left irc: "nite" [01:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:56] deplorable (n=fuckyou@dial-129.r2.ncbrvr.InfoAve.Net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] hello slackers [01:56] deplorable: hello. How are you? [01:57] what, no hello for us non-slackers ?? :P [01:57] i'm ok. [01:57] andarius: hello andarius :) [01:57] salutations firebird619 [01:57] andarius: how are you? [01:57] good. you ? [01:58] For some reason, I can't get disc 6 of 12.2 to download. IT hangs at 20.x MBs. [01:58] Is anyone else having this problem/ [01:58] andarius: good. thanks. [01:58] deplorable: try a different mirror. [01:58] deplorable: i never pull more than disk 1 [01:58] I've tried a few. [01:58] i rsync the whole damn tree [01:58] I don't even know what's on disc 6. I'm running with just 1 and 2. [01:59] src [01:59] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189-31-96-231.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:59] deplorable: don't worry about disc 6 [01:59] 6 has the src code andarius? [01:59] yes [01:59] 4,5 and 6 [01:59] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:59] http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [01:59] I would like to have that then. I can't modify it but I'd like to see it. [02:00] you noted trying several mirrors. you try the different protocols? [02:00] http and ftp mirros. [02:00] torrent? [02:00] no [02:01] I try to avoid torrents. [02:01] if multiple mirrors and protocols are failing it sounds more like a space issue or something [02:01] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@201-41-204-94.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:01] I'm a fairly new slacker. I've been working to maintain Windows for years. [02:01] I guess I don't need the source yet. [02:02] most dont need it [02:02] even those who have been using it for years [02:02] What language is Slackware written in? [02:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:03] D [02:03] i think that question applies more tot he apps that make up slackware [02:03] it's written in unobtainium [02:03] zomg :o [02:03] The slackware core [02:03] what core? [02:04] the files that make slackware slackware as opposed to gentoo. [02:04] ummm [02:04] deplorable: you mean pkgtools? [02:04] that does not make it slackware [02:04] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-155-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] pkgtools is shell scripting [02:04] sure. is there a dominant language those parts of slack are written in? [02:04] and again, your question applies more to the apps, as that is what any distro is [02:04] ok. shell [02:04] ok [02:04] sure [02:05] maybe he means /etc/slackware-version [02:05] that is no more than a txt file [02:05] no big deal. I admit I don't really know what I"m talking about. [02:05] Most of my experience is W2K. [02:05] deplorable: do you actually understand what a "distrobution" is? [02:05] the the core of any linux OS could be looked at as glibc + the kernel and gcc [02:06] dstribution is a collection of software bundled with a kernel, right? [02:06] thrice`, ping [02:06] deplorable: in short yes. [02:07] deplorable: that's right... so what do you mean by "what language is slackware written in"? [02:07] IMHO, Slackware isn't so much a product as it is a philosophy. It's a way of doing things. Slackers are faced with the same problems as users of Debian or Gentoo, but choose a different approach to solve them. [02:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Yeah. I don't know what I"m talking about. It's best not to take my questions too seriously if they make no sense. I'm still trying to make XINE fully functional. [02:09] it comes that way from the start [02:09] It can't read encrypted DVDs without libdvdcss, et al. [02:09] That's what's not working for me yet. [02:09] slackbuilds.org [02:09] I've done that. [02:09] This is an audio error. [02:10] libdvdcss, libdvdread, libdvdnav, w32codecs [02:10] well you can all install those from slackbuilds.org. win32 == mplayer-codecs [02:11] I was told they would work with XINE. They won't? [02:12] verify the audio works via other apps, then check to make sure you have xine set up to use the right stuff [02:12] Action: BP{k} suddenly understands the universe and goes... [02:12] 1st rule of science: Don't take anyone else word for it. Try it out yourself. [02:12] The audio works. I've played unencrypted DVDs in XINE. [02:15] I hear MPlayer may be the better player, but I can't give up XINE now that it's bugged me for so long; I have to figure out what I'm screwing up. lol [02:15] BP{k} seems to have attained the state of nirvana... [02:17] BP{k} is on level 7 [02:18] Has anyone tried Avast AntiVirus for Linux? I've heard you don't need AV for Linux, but I noticed last week that Avast now has a Linux edition. [02:18] his computer chair has restraints, which are necessary lest he float away... [02:18] deplorable, you only need AV if you share files amongst windows boxen [02:18] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] I will eventually. Slack is in iso for now since I don't really know how to handle it. [02:19] There seems to be a lot for a new guy to learn. [02:22] Slackbook is quite useful. I've also been working through How Linux Works. The latter was published in 2005, so I'm hoping it's not too outdated. [02:23] while that is not entirely true there is a slightly lower need for av on linux [02:23] assuming of course the box admin has $clue [02:24] I won't claim a clue until I've made it through the first year. lol [02:25] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [02:25] I started looking at EMACs and VIM. I'm hoping to toss the IDEs I used on Windows and replace them with one environment under Slackware. [02:26] Under Windows, I have NetBeans, FlashDevelop (.NET dependent), a Elipse module. [02:26] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [02:27] visual studio is nice [02:27] I've only used the Express Editions of 2005 and 2008 [02:28] I sort of like the more bare IDEs. The only thing I really like about IDEs is the sytax highlighting. [02:29] Can you recommend anything for Flash development under Slackware? [02:33] A lot to learn. It will probably take a year to get through the basics or Slackware, Linux in general, iptables, EMACs (I've chosen it over Vi for now), etc. [02:34] it will take more than a year [02:35] What's your estimate? [02:35] life [02:35] lol [02:35] lovely. [02:35] Sounds like fun. [02:35] Action: andarius is still learning :) [02:35] Action: dive too [02:35] There's always something to learn. [02:36] I have a hardware issue to work out too. My external dial-up modem appears to have dropped into a half-duplex mode. It can't find a dial-tone if I plug in both RJ-11s but works well enough with only one plugged in. Just making conversation. [02:37] Minor display issues as well. The color is trashed on a few things included a version of the terminal. [02:37] jesus external dial-up? [02:37] slackmag1c (n=magician@173.74.119.165) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:37] Don't laugh. [02:37] It's 56K (sometimes). [02:38] dialup :-( [02:38] I'm on dial-up now. I've never had DSL. [02:38] :( [02:38] are you anti-technology or on a budget right now? [02:38] 'Budget. [02:38] how much does dialup cost? [02:38] 5$/month? [02:39] It's $50 a month for slow ADSL here. $15 for dial-up. There's also a $100 sign up fee for ADSL (non-refundable) and the cost of a modem. [02:39] where on earth do you live? [02:39] :| [02:39] # [02:39] # What is inlcluded for $5.95? [02:39] You get unlimited dialup Internet access! 1 email account 20MB of personal webspace. Visit our INFO page for more information. [02:39] Channel flood from acidchild -- kicking [02:39] Go Top [02:39] acidchild kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:39] acidchild (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:40] One provider in town; the phone company. Going through anyone else counts as a long distance call the entire time you're online. ADSL is always online. I'd hate to see that phone bill. [02:40] where do you live? :| [02:40] Middle of Nowhere, USA. You can walk from one edge of the city to the other in about 2 hours. [02:41] like rworkman :P [02:41] has he got dsl yet? [02:41] i dont even know where the edge of my city is [02:41] The Mayor owns the hardware store. lol. Really small town. [02:41] i know where downtown ends.. [02:41] i dunno where the 'top' of it is though [02:42] Downtown is a bunch of empty tourist traps. A lot of the buildings are unoccupied because of a bad season. [02:42] i'm in LA county right now [02:42] LA county is epic large [02:42] hehe. [02:43] GTA baby <3 pretty big too [02:43] lol [02:43] An LA apartment building probably has more people in it than this town. lol [02:43] i lived in a town like that once for 3 weeks [02:43] i was the blackest person there :| [02:43] lol [02:44] nullboy: http://viewit.ca/vwExpandView.aspx?ViT=80663 [02:44] going to see it monday =]! [02:45] here's what my typical day in LA looks like http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/5388777_7b99209654.jpg?v=0 [02:45] busy busy busy :-P [02:45] LA the city of the Car [02:45] yep [02:46] Small towns have so much scandal. Two town officials just went down for things the politicians won't even discuss. Closed session; no public allowed, but they're fired. [02:46] hahaha [02:46] Considered getting on a train? [02:46] and moving [02:46] Not yet. [02:46] By the end of the year, I'll go back to the city. [02:46] why? [02:47] I'm broke. [02:47] doesn't seem like alot of money where you are at the moment. [02:47] nope [02:47] so hitchhike [02:47] Half the town is rich. I'm in the other half. [02:48] yeah :( know that feeling. [02:48] It's one of those places with million dollar homes at one end of town and apartments from the 70s on the other. [02:48] nullboy: dude that place is hawt [02:48] :P [02:48] deplorable: local bar there plays milli vanilli, don't it? "girl you know it's true"? [02:49] yeah hitch one of these rich chicks [02:49] I don't go near the bars unless I'm working in one. [02:49] a little man hoing works. [02:49] why? [02:49] yeah, do man whore [02:49] Overheard a boss talking about putting her daughters college tuition on her credit card one day but I was making $6 an hour. [02:49] its worked great for me in the past :-P [02:49] deplorable: omg [02:50] min wage here is going up to 10$/hour [02:50] only now acidchild uses an o ring for sphincter muscles.... [02:50] I've never made $10 an hour. [02:50] antler: HAHA [02:50] 9 as a cook. [02:50] That was it. [02:50] :| [02:51] do you have a phone line deplorable ? [02:51] Oh. Wait. I made $22 an hour self-employed. [02:51] yes. I'm on dial-up. [02:51] http://homebusiness.about.com/b/2008/11/19/work-at-home-call-center-agents-wanted.htm [02:51] they normaly pay pretty good [02:52] I forgot a few things. I have made more than 9 an hour. I've made $200 an hour but that was back in the city. Again, self-employed. [02:52] I just hate teaching. I"m not going back to that. [02:52] how old are you, if you don't mind.... [02:53] late 20s. [02:53] Action: andarius is 5 :P [02:53] nullboy: what you been up to this Friday? [02:53] andarius's second child is 5.... [02:53] :P [02:53] haha [02:53] Action: acidchild is 2 1/2 [02:54] i'm a freakin' fraction baby [02:54] $22 and $200 an hour wasn't as great as it sounds. Sometimes, I only worked 6 hours a month. OK, that was pretty sweet (6 hours of work a month), but the money didn't add up. [02:54] acidchild: i did some work earlier then went and did my taxes today [02:55] you got any edurcation, son? [02:55] Action: acidchild is excited for his return [02:55] lol [02:55] i've never had one before :P [02:55] me too ;) [02:55] Action: andarius will get an edumacation sum day :o [02:55] no college. [02:55] GED. That's it. [02:55] Computer certification [02:56] nullboy: hookers and cocaine? [02:56] so many [02:56] haha [02:56] wait [02:56] its away of 'boost starting the economy' [02:56] you're holding out on me with hookers and cocaine? [02:56] straterra: what can i say [02:56] 'yes' [02:56] saying yes would mean sharing! [02:57] straterra: yep [02:57] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [02:57] no..it means youve been holding out [02:57] i'm holding out [02:57] what you going to do? [02:57] lol [02:57] Action: acidchild hands nullboy the mirror tile [02:57] clear it [02:57] =] [02:57] *sssssssiiiiifffffp* [02:59] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:59] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [03:00] It suddenly got quiet in here. [03:01] yep [03:01] Are you in tech? [03:01] we're all watching nullboy have a sezure. [03:01] i r in tech [03:01] we are all upset cause some one .... is not sharing the hookers :| [03:01] i clean up the messes of wannabe windows admins [03:01] ofcourse you would be angry if someone wasnt sharing herpes :P [03:01] i can haz dfs [03:02] private or corporate nullboy? [03:02] private [03:02] He's a corperate bitch really [03:02] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: No route to host [03:02] I work in cow castrations [03:02] yeah that's basically what a consultant is [03:02] a corp bitch [03:03] but the consultant doesn't have a time card [03:03] that's the difference [03:03] plus you get hit with the self-employment tax at the end of the year, right? [03:03] Independant contractor BS? [03:03] all consultants have are "invoices" and "recommendations" [03:03] nullboy: send me a invoice [03:03] it's very simple [03:03] haha [03:03] for 5$ [03:03] plz [03:04] ash@7a69.co.uk [03:04] you send that to collections i'll kill you [03:04] hahaha [03:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:04] lmao [03:04] i just wana see your layout [03:04] :) [03:05] i just do it simple. just made a field based template in oo.o [03:05] i get to make a company logo and stuff ;x [03:05] woo [03:05] sweet [03:06] deplorable: it is all BS but the difference is how much you get paid to deal with the same BS [03:06] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn254.91-127-2.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Did anyone catch the article about a new laptop security measure that allows you to record a message for laptop thieves? Imagine opoening a laptop to have it shout at you "Get your fucking hands off me. HELP! THIEF!". lol [03:06] i worked full time for a company that i left to go out on my own. now i still work for the same company but under my own terms [03:07] Yes. It's all BS. [03:07] why? [03:08] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "Reconnecting..." [03:08] 'bull shit' indicate something you have no control over. [03:08] why do you have no control? thats your weakspot [03:08] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [03:08] Every job is BS. [03:08] I can't think of one that isn't [03:08] mine have been okey recently. fair share of presure and annoyances. [03:08] i call it BS because for people like us who deal with it everyday it just feels like BS, but the BS pays the bills [03:09] yep [03:09] i consider remakeing some snobby fucks coffee twice because it had a little bit too much cream, Bs.. [03:09] i call working 38 hours of overtime for free BS [03:09] BS for me is a serious problem for a non tech person [03:09] There's an old joke: "Even a starlettes bikini waker has days on which he just doesn't want to go to work." [03:09] waxer [03:10] can you image the horror in that job? [03:10] no [03:10] waxing some chick? [03:10] that's insane [03:10] Repetition: the horror in any job. [03:10] getting to prep it but never play with it... how fail :( [03:10] lol exactly [03:10] imagine the horror [03:10] you get to smell it all day long and never touch it [03:10] better than sitting in a fuckin cubicle, that's for sure... [03:10] fsck that [03:11] It's not a job I would want. [03:11] i did the cubical thing for a while and then i did the lab thing for a while [03:11] "hey buddy, what do you do?" "i shave the pussy" [03:11] and i thank you for the work [03:11] How are you supposed to get a date when you have to answer with something like that when the girl ask you what you do for a living. [03:11] straterra: bald is sweet, yeah. [03:12] i'd offer her a free wax [03:12] i think my computer is fucked. [03:12] she might ask for a freebie :) [03:12] :( [03:12] cjae (n=cjae@64-110-251-246.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Hi [03:12] acidchild: better take it to best buy, have the geek squad check it out for you bahahah [03:12] yeah for sure. [03:12] i have paintball in..t minus 9 hours.. [03:12] straterra: !!! speed ball or open field? [03:12] i know someone on IRC who works for Geek Squad [03:13] its kinda hard not to troll him over that job. [03:13] lol [03:13] IMA GONNA CALL GEEK SQUAD! [03:14] Hi, I have a sort of weird setup of disks, bare with my this is very slackware related, I have a box with a motherboard that has both IDE and SATA controllers on it i865 chipset [03:15] littering and? littering aaaannd? [03:15] Friends: Rachael dates a Gynecologist who compares his job to hers as a waitress: "Don't you ever get off work and just say, if I see one more cup of coffee today..." lol [03:15] smoking the reefer [03:15] Every job sucks. [03:15] eventually [03:16] nullboy: supertroopers? [03:16] haha [03:16] cjae: what's the disk problem? [03:17] deplorable: considered running a Meth lab? [03:17] ok hang on long explaination [03:17] proply? [03:17] i'm allergic to prison [03:17] they have pills for that [03:17] aka poppers [03:17] makes the hole more stretchy [03:17] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [03:18] with the added benefit of not caring! all rolled into one [03:18] :P [03:18] no prison for me. I'll go back to my high school job at McDonalds first. [03:18] That's close enough. [03:18] i got fired from mcdonalds [03:18] the bios lists them as ide 0 = master = my 40 gigs hard drive, ide 0 = slave = nothing [03:18] Me too [03:18] nullboy: what on earth did you do? :P [03:18] i got caught with my penis in the pickle slicer...she got fired too [03:19] LOL [03:19] \o/ [03:19] someone actually has a computer topic going. [03:19] ide = 1 =master = plextor optical and ide = 1 = none [03:19] cjae. Mind reminding everyone about the drive problem details? What are you trying to do? [03:19] Take over the world one inode at a time. [03:20] ide = 3 = sata = my 300 gig hard disk and ide 4= none [03:20] nullboy: that sounds like it might have hurt... [03:20] chopp: lol [03:20] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [03:20] wow do i have gas tonight [03:20] never ending :/ [03:20] toot toot [03:20] when I boot and install debian the 300 gig shows up as /dev/sda but when I install ubuntu to that drive it shows up as /dev/sdb [03:21] so? [03:21] Action: cjae reminds that question is slackware related [03:21] something is loading on ubuntu but not on debian, thats using /dev/sda [03:21] cjae: dude enough with the foreplay. i'm getting blue balls [03:21] so its going to /dev/sdb [03:22] I wish to use the 40 gig as a spot to test slack 12.2 [03:22] antler: i just came from the thought. [03:22] :) [03:22] :P [03:22] but do not wish to distrub my grub for main distribution [03:22] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [03:22] nullboy: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10889 [03:22] slackpkg b0rk3d [03:22] my pc. [03:23] What's currently on the 40? [03:23] so I should just be able to install slack without a bootloader right and use super grub disk to boot? [03:23] cjae: boot the slack disk and run fdisk -l. then make not of the 40gb partition? [03:24] make note* [03:24] Just checking, the distro you're trying to preserve isn't on the 40 is it? [03:24] damn that's nasty [03:24] my real problem is determining where grub is right now would it be on (hd0) [03:25] then it would point to / at /dev/sdb1 [03:25] cjae: no offense, but you have one severely disorganized mind. [03:25] cig break. I'm not a slack expert anyway. brb [03:26] the reason I dont want to use the 40 gig for main distro is that it is so slow [03:26] and I cannot set the sata drive to primary master in the bios [03:26] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:26] antler: I know [03:27] cjae: what are you ultimately trying to do? [03:28] I think he's trying to make the SATA drive his primary with his primary distro installed on it and use the IDE as a secondary for a test install of Slackware. [03:28] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Looks around for terminal..." [03:28] leave my ubuntu distro on /dev/sdb and install slack to /dev/sda without altering ubuntu grub [03:28] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:28] The primary distro is already installed with a boot loader. He wants to alter the boot loader for the new Slackware without damaging his ability to load the primary; without screwing up the boot loader. [03:29] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [03:29] yes [03:29] how come this is the only channel that understands me [03:29] i don't understand you :( [03:29] thank you [03:29] i've been watching Fresh Prince [03:29] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left ##slackware (":wq"). [03:29] so don't take it as a insult. [03:30] none taken [03:30] i miss the carlton dance... [03:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:30] LikeVinyl (n=desdemon@186.18.57.7) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:31] I'm not the Slackware or GRUB expert, I use LILO, so I'm going to keep my mouth shut on this one to avoid trashing this person's system. Now, for that cig. [03:31] brb [03:31] I used slack back when it was kernel 2.4 but always messed up trying to to install new 2.6 from testing, can't remember why I needed it [03:31] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [03:31] 12.2 is my first Slackware distro. [03:31] but I like the distro and really would like to revist it [03:32] ubuntu tend to make you dumb [03:32] tends [03:32] antler: http://www.justin.tv/themediumstream [03:32] it worked ;) [03:32] but need for ease of use for the others that use this box [03:32] cjae: what makes you say that? =( [03:33] it does everything for you [03:33] i thought meth made you dumb [03:33] that too [03:34] and I have no floppy drive to make a quick floppy boot either [03:34] is slack still using lilo [03:35] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:35] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [03:35] cjae: yes. [03:35] acidchild: hahah i remember this episode [03:35] it does include and can use grub however [03:36] right [03:36] :P [03:36] antler: its none-stop =] [03:37] oh hahah :D [03:38] they just "Find a bag" [03:39] no it's back to jazz [03:39] does anyone want to take a stab at why debian would name the disk installed to /dev/sda and why ubuntu would call it /dev/sdb? asked in the repective channels and nobody knew or cared to share [03:39] i said a reason [03:39] you ignored [03:39] check dmesg. [03:40] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: "[BX] reallove has left the building" [03:40] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:42] dmesg | grep ?? [03:42] omg :| i just did tar -zxvf [03:42] and it emptyed all of it in my ~ [03:42] no subfolder?! ARG?!?! [03:43] that should be illegal [03:44] you mean its not.... [03:44] Action: andarius sets a large group free [03:45] blue team go! [03:45] As long as I'm in a Slackware room, what are your preferences for file systems? The choice isn't as simple as FAT vs NTFS under Linux. ext2, ext3, xfs,... Which has an edge? [03:46] ZombieFS [03:46] Zombie Nation [03:46] xfs is fast, unless you're deleting. [03:46] edge for what ... depends what you want [03:46] DURN DURN DUN DUN DUN [03:46] ext3 is default, and so it's the "preference" of many around here. [03:46] acidchild: I did not mean to ignore you I have read back and did not see ehat you said but I tried dmesg | sda and sba [03:46] and? [03:46] I'm a coder. Mid size apps, mid sized files. A number of small files; text documents under 1MB too. [03:47] The journal takes some overhead over ext2, but it's usually worth it. [03:47] jkwood, you're recommending ext3? [03:47] ReiserFS lost me data in the 6 hours I used it, but that may be a fluke. [03:47] Depends on what you're doing. [03:47] ext3 is fine for most anyone, and solid [03:47] If you're archiving, I'd use xfs. [03:47] acidchild: I do not know what I am supposed to be seeing [03:47] I personally use ext3 for everyday computing. [03:48] Action: andarius has used reiserfs for a long time with no issues [03:48] reiserfs is good I hope someone else picks it up [03:48] I don't plan to switch distros but is there a file system I should avoid in case I ever change OSs? [03:48] hfs [03:48] stay away [03:48] ext3 is most universal? [03:49] boobyfs :o [03:49] when is ext 4 coming [03:49] xfs is a little new? [03:49] cjae: ext4 is stable in the recent kernels [03:49] Actually, no. xfs is fairly old, if I remember correctly. [03:49] ok [03:49] ext3 is just the default in Slackware, and has been for a few releases. [03:49] nullboy: didn't know that [03:50] I though xfs is as old as slack [03:50] I must have misread something. You're probably right. [03:50] Introduced 1994. [03:50] ext3 was 2001. [03:51] ext2 was 1993. [03:51] I was think of jfs [03:51] Any preference when adding RAID to the mix? [03:51] i use ext3 even in a situation where i might benefit from a different fs because i just feel better about the chances of me finding help with ext3 scrambled eggs than other fs scrambled eggs [03:52] i use ext3 on a linux raid1 array [03:52] ok [03:52] For hardware upgrades, Slack only works on 32 bit Intel systems, yes? [03:52] standards are good for some things [03:53] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:53] It has to support x86. [03:53] ok [03:53] no jfs was 2001 [03:53] So, x86_64 processors are fine. [03:54] deplorable: slackware runs on 32 bit and will run fine on a 64bit system but you won't get the 64bit benefits by using a default install. slamd64 is there to cover the 64bit guys [03:54] all right [03:54] thanks [03:55] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-138-133.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:55] Guest24605 (n=kkkkkkk@net-93-144-132-136.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [03:56] salve [03:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:56] lista!! [03:56] waffle !! [03:56] lufta? [03:57] Guest24605 (n=kkkkkkk@net-93-144-132-136.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) left ##slackware. [03:57] Do swap file rules hold when switching between Linux and Windows; 512 for 1GB of RAM? [03:57] Well, that depends. [03:57] there is no rules [03:57] If you intend to hibernate to your swap file, then it needs to be as big or bigger than your ram. [03:58] If you have a whole lotta ram, but won't be hibernating, then you can get away with a small swap file/partition. [03:58] the swap "rules" for windows used to be 1.5 times your ram so it would have been 1,5GB for 1GB ram anyway [03:58] Probably no hibernation. Slacks on a desktop. [03:58] Boot up and shutdown is suprisingly fast. [03:58] Otherwise, it's a mixture of voodoo and horse sense. [03:58] Windows takes about 5 minutes to shut down. [03:59] so i guess you need 12GB of swap for windows :) since it need 8GB of ram ... [03:59] Soul_keeper: You're thinking of World of Warcraft. [03:59] Although, I've heard it does amazingly well with 512 megs of ram... in Wine. [03:59] I've been dragging windows through the mud since I know I'm going to format it away for good soon. I've been doing everything with that installation. It's probably trashed; that's why it's so slow. [04:00] Action: jkwood can't help but grin [04:00] Well, given that Windows manages to get trashed when you're trying to avoid it, I'm not terribly surprised that it's trashed when you're trying to trash it. [04:01] acidchild: LOL the banks on the oprah show [04:01] haha yeah [04:01] "I REALLY LIKE THE DIAMOND BRACELET!" [04:01] I've been clicking all those shiny links I know I shouldn't. Reading those attachments. Screw it. It's going to burn anyway. [04:01] rofl [04:01] that's so awesome [04:03] I've been running the thing online as root 24/7. I even took it on IRC as root when I was too lazy to log out. It's got to be full of junk by now. [04:03] I won't be making any online credit card purchases with that thing any time soon. [04:03] Not that a thief with get much; jokes on him. lol [04:04] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] i thought "root" was reserved for MS employee's to login to your computer while you were sleeping [04:04] Go ahead. Steal my identity. Say hello to the bill collectors for me. [04:04] No. That's what that hidden admin account in XP is for. [04:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] ahh [04:05] The ESC backdoor in 95 and 98 was too obvious. [04:05] 2000 has a built in hole too. You can get root if you have physical access and the installation disc. [04:05] umm [04:05] physical access to any system = root [04:06] Then there's all of the NETBEUI BS that's on by default. File and printer sharing. By default, Windows is swiss. [04:06] Well aged swiss. [04:06] i'll never use windows again [04:06] i'd rather give up computers all together [04:06] anyways good night [04:07] The default network settings in Windows allow your files to, if someone knows how, be shared all over the internet whenever you're online. [04:07] I used windows today, looked nice out too. [04:07] I haven't even bothered to fix that on the system. [04:07] lol chopp [04:07] Heard the joke about Bill Gates in Hell? [04:07] i work on windows systems but all my own work and personal gear uses linux based OSs [04:08] They lock him in a room with a computer for all eternity but the CTRL ALT and DELETE keys are missing from the keyboard. [04:08] ms jokes are so 1999 [04:09] What about the one in which he chooses Hell over Heaven because Hell looks like a beautiful beach full of woman. Then he finds out it's only the screen saver. [04:09] antler: stand on that chair and tell me that to my face [04:09] you know that linux has a built in "ctrl+alt+del" type of setup but much more powerful? [04:09] No. I haven't found that yet. [04:09] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "the code is clean and the feature is there, now what the hell does it do ..." [04:10] look into magic sysrq [04:11] http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm [04:11] Is that a file or a command? I'm completely new to Linux. [04:11] checking it out now....... [04:11] well it's a function [04:11] it allows you to gracefully take the system down or even recover the system even after it has crashed [04:12] kennyt (n=ken@blefuscu.kennyt.com) joined ##slackware. [04:12] ctrl+alt+del on crack [04:12] That's useful. [04:12] acidchild: lol [04:12] I've already had a few crashes. [04:12] so is slackware.com looking for mirrors? [04:13] One of the terminals locks my system any time I open it. The others work fine (Konsole) [04:14] cjae (n=cjae@64-110-251-246.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [04:14] It's going to take a while to figure out what I need to install and what I need to skip. Some of the software on the CDs is out of date (GCC for example) and some of it is redundant (2 or 3 media players, IDEs, etc). [04:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:15] Slack comes with a lot of software. I think I'm going to start with xfce for a window manager. [04:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:15] KDE isn't that appealing. The little dinosaur is annoying. [04:15] Action: kennyt is thinking about deleting 13gb of slackware files and wondering if slackware.com might ever link to them [04:16] Which window managers do you prefer? anyone. [04:16] Mornin'(or afternoon or evenin'),folks...XFCE 4.6 here [04:17] Does anyone use those really bare managers? [04:17] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:17] I can't even remember the names of them. I started them and ran. I didn't know what I was doing. [04:17] fluxbox? Sure. [04:17] 1.xfce4 2.fluxbox (3.openbox) [04:17] I use fluxbox [04:18] Is it the one that's nothing but a blank desktop with a little square in the lower right corner? [04:18] Something like that. [04:18] It has a taskbar-like item on the bottom. [04:18] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] KDE reminds me too much of the goofy cartoonish interface of XP. [04:19] I've always disliked XPs default interface. [04:21] Tab Window Manager (TWM); that's the bare manager I couldn't figure out. [04:21] Does anyone here use it? [04:22] haven't used that one in a quite a while [04:22] Pain in the ass, isn't it? [04:23] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:23] not really..just too bare...couple consoles...make sure your processes run background(&) [04:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Linux neutrino 2.6.29-rc7-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 7 01:12:35 PST 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [04:24] nullboy,what's your feeling on TWM? [04:25] context? [04:25] what's twm? [04:25] bare window manager..been 'round for a long time [04:26] i've used blackbox, xfce and kde [04:26] i currently use kde [04:26] someone was asking 'bout TWM,is all [04:26] 4.2? [04:27] nullboy: ^^ [04:27] or .1 or whatever.... [04:27] ii don't really care much about my DE/WM. i just use whatever any distro defaults, to be honest [04:28] 3.5.10 is the one in -current's mainline right now [04:29] Someone mentioned only using Disc 1 of Slack. I guess they're on a command line. I haven't run full time on a terminal since DOS was king. [04:30] anyone used gnupgp much? [04:30] how do i make a email primary? [04:30] at the moment its the last email i added to the key [04:30] acidchild: i use it but i use it via enigmail plugin for thunderbird [04:30] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "brb" [04:31] good skill to master....mice are nice but keys can please.<---old one from the KonsoleKings BBS [04:32] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: US [04:33] omfg i think it's working [04:33] Is it against some sort of spec or peace treaty to put a C/C++ compiler directive inside of #define? [04:33] ccfreak2k, I don't see how you would do otherwise (on the command-line ?) [04:34] Something like: #define commonop #asm mov AX,[BX] #endasm [04:35] I should get some sleep. I haven't done any of the work I was supposed to while staying up all night. I'm supposed to be up in three hours. I'll see everyone later. Thanks for the tips. 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[05:27] there are too many slackbuilds for him to have written them all, smells like there's some ripoff [05:36] and too many files are from 15. Feb 2009, really *too* many [05:37] slackbuilds pretty much write themselves [05:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:38] hehe, I wanted to check the git network graph but it uses flash and I wanted to install gnash >< [05:38] http://github.com/PhantomX/slackbuilds/network [05:39] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:41] LopLiii (n=Loor@120.162.93.20) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:47] gnash? is that a free flash substitute? [05:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:50] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [05:50] dionysian, yes [05:52] is it better somehow? [05:52] hmmm, 2-threads rendering of flam3 along with a make -j3 that usually takes 20 minutes isn't the best idea to have [05:52] dionysian, he, I don't know, I haven't installed it yet ;p [05:55] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [05:55] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:56] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [05:57] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: Client Quit [06:01] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189.72.119.186) joined ##slackware. [06:01] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:01] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:02] Ether_Man_ (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:28] good to see all of you [06:29] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:30] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:33] #ubuntu is a terrible place in general. [06:33] I think they inhereted it from #debian. [06:33] lol [06:33] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [06:33] ha, yes you are correct [06:35] they were banning me within seconds and I said nothing , thats what you get when money is youre main focus [06:35] *your [06:35] Ether_Man_ (i=DJ@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:36] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:38] im paraniod .l [06:38] good to see the slackers * sigh [06:39] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [06:40] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:41] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:44] yesterday I tried to upgrade from slackware 11.0 to 12.2 with swaret :D [06:44] afterwards I got just glibc errors =) [06:45] GodxDevil (i=0@18987269.ssa.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:46] GodxDevil (i=0@18987269.ssa.megazon.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:46] I tried also to install from a usb stick, tried to get the packages from a http/ftp server, doesn't work too [06:47] toor: I think in the docs it mentions that if you are running 11.0 that you should back your stuff up and start with a fresh install. [06:47] I used a server who is listed under "get slack" on the homepage [06:47] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:47] agentc0re: I have no empty medium to write it to [06:48] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [06:51] you can maybe partition your hard-drive and put the packages on a partition you won't be installing to [06:52] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-122.psoas.suomi.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [06:54] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [06:54] ummm [06:54] Camarade_Tux: no. [06:55] what he can do, is format a partition as ext3 or whatever. copy the packages to like a folder called packages [06:55] then install to that drive choosing not to format it [06:56] ken` (n=user@38.119.107.114) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:57] Camarade_Tux: which packages? :o) [06:57] toor, I am curious why the sudden need to upgrade? [06:59] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [07:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) joined ##slackware. [07:01] spook_, isn't there an option to specify where the packages are located (or rather the entire CD/DVD structure) ? [07:04] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:06] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:07] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Camarade_Tux: yup [07:10] Camarade_Tux: which is what i was suggesting he use [07:10] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [07:12] spook_, that's what I was suggesting too [07:12] I can't install it without burning the newest iso to a medium, crazy stuff [07:12] yeah but you dont need a seperate partition [07:12] right, I'm used to always format the / partition ;) [07:13] try that in ubuntu and you'll pull your hair out [07:14] hopefully I'll never install ubuntu [07:16] if I were force to install it on someone else computer, I'd rather install slackware, say it's kubuntu or xubuntu and make a fake apt so it uses a combination of pkgtools/slackpkg/sbopkg :) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-177.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-24.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] can I write a cd iso image bootable to the usb flash drive? =) [07:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:18] read README_USB.TXT :) [07:19] bamr (n=user@122.172.47.172) joined ##slackware. [07:20] bamr (n=user@122.172.47.172) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [07:29] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [07:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [07:32] kama (n=kama@host74-34-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:34] kama (n=kama@host74-34-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:37] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:37] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:40] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:43] ok, gnash is not perfect but it could do the trick [07:43] dionysian, ^^ [07:44] actually I couldn't play any youtube video (no sound, no picture) but it could be a problem with gstreamer instead [07:44] and kongregate.com nearly worked [07:44] why not use adobe flash ? [07:45] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:45] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:45] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.24.141) left irc: "Saindo" [07:45] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [07:45] I'd like to avoid flash at all but since I formatted recently, had not installed flash and gnash 0.8.5 just went out, I thought I could try it [07:45] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.24.141) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:46] btw, gnash did not install libgnashplugin.so when I issued 'make install', I had to do it by hand [07:47] oh, and I really hate adobe's flash :) [07:47] flash is ok [07:47] linu (n=root@196.218.29.241) joined ##slackware. [07:48] flash mostly serves advertisement nowadays [07:48] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:49] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:50] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.23.188) joined ##slackware. [07:50] And yet you want to use a flash plugin? [07:51] no, I wanted to see if it worked, I plan to remove it as soon as I can play something on youtube :D [07:51] btw, the videos I couldn't play on youtube were x264-encoded [07:54] hello happy slackers [07:54] actually it doesn't play non-264 video either :D [07:54] hi LnxSlck [07:55] hi Camarade_Tux [07:56] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] jkwood, and with a proper browser, flash shouldn't be a problem, now I don't think firefox is a proper browser [07:57] i use Seamonkey with lots of plugins, (flash, java, mplayerplug-in) and never have any problem at youtube or any other website i visit [07:59] i agree with you Camarade_Tux about firefox, it is an ok browser until you start adding plugins to it, i know firefox is sort of a fork of mozilla but something got borked during the fork and firefox gets flakey when it comes to plugins [07:59] the (general) problem with plugins is how they exist within browsers, NPAPI (netscape plugin api) is soooo unsafe and unsecure ! 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[09:43] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:47] heh [09:47] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [09:52] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:54] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Ok, so I have installed CentOS, and they got installed to /dev/sda1 the /, and /dev/sda2 the swap, so my slackware partition moved down two places (i.e. from sda2 and sda3 to sda3 and sda4, / and swap respectively.) Nnow whenever booting, slackware is trying to mount /dev/sda2, so how can I make it mount /dev/sda3 for the / and sda4 for the swap? [09:57] I have edited my lilo.conf, and the fstab. [09:57] as needed. [09:57] i bet you need to boot your installed slackware with CDrom #1 and run /sbin/lilo after the changes [09:58] also check /etc/lilo.conf [09:58] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:58] oops, i see you did [09:59] Pig_Pen: well, I have Slax on my USB, I booted w/ it and chrooted to /mnt/sda3...and edited the lilo.conf and fstab. maybe I have to do something else. [09:59] i bet you need to boot your installed slackware with CDrom #1 and run the "command" /sbin/lilo after the changes [10:00] yes, I did do that. [10:00] hmm [10:01] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] sda4 should not be a mountable partition, usually it is just the extension that holds sda5 sda6 & higher [10:02] unless it is the last primary partition [10:03] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-48-193.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-56-197.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:03] it is a primary parition (I think), I have to reboot to check that :( [10:03] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@200-138-209-53.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:04] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] yup, windows says it is primary. [10:05] demoncyber__ (n=demoncyb@189.72.119.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:06] i read your comment twice, i will read it again to see if i missed anything [10:07] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] you have two swap partitions? you know that you only need one swap partition for both [10:07] oh I do? [10:07] sda 2 & 4 ? [10:07] yup. [10:08] so, I am just gonna delete the sda4? [10:08] if i was to do what you are trying to do i would put CentOS on sda1 make sda2 swap and slackware on sda3 and make sda4 /home or whatever [10:09] unless you want to use sw suspend, where the kernel write the ram to the swap... if you share swaps, you cant suspend in one and then boot the other, as it would destroy the suspend of the first (or even try to restore a invalid syspend in the wrong distro) [10:09] ah... [10:09] ah, i never though of suspend [10:10] so no delete /sda4 ? [10:11] I am taking that as a no... [10:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) left irc: [10:13] higuita: thats not hard to work around [10:13] two swaps or use a swap file for one [10:13] thumbs_ (n=avenger@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:13] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] but is there any way to make slackware mount sda3 when booting rather than sda2? [10:14] for what, root? [10:14] straterra: hehehe, he have 2 swap and wants to reduce to 1.. i was just warning about the possible colision for suspend [10:14] just change lilo and your fstav [10:14] fstab* [10:14] straterra: I did. [10:15] did you rerun lilo? [10:15] I may be misunderstanding the message. [10:15] straterra: yup. [10:16] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [10:16] it has something to do with initrd2.gz (the initrd for the my current kernel version). [10:16] one sec. [10:17] i have not thought about that since i never use an initrd [10:17] brb. [10:17] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [10:17] i hate initrd's [10:18] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] they hate you too [10:19] thrice`, I've got a sb for kqemu for the 0.10.0 version [10:19] most things do hate me [10:19] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:20] have you submitted it? [10:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] ok so it says: initrd2.gz: Loading kernel module from initrd image: .... mount: mounting /dev/sda2 on /mnt failed: Invalid argument; ERROR: No /sbin/init found on rootdev (or not mounted)... [10:22] Action: dive throws a brick at thrice` *bonk* [10:22] I think it is trying to boot from sda2. [10:23] dive: neat :) [10:24] I have qemu 0.10.0 done, and will submit today [10:24] ok I may as well sub kqemu then [10:24] I put a note in the readme for qemu > 0,9,1 [10:24] any idea? [10:24] I must run out for a bit - i'll put it up shortly [10:24] sure [10:25] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] I am not sure what to do... [10:34] never mind, I think I know what is screwing up :P [10:35] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.24.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:37] ;;5; [10:37] sorry about that twas my little lad tapping [10:37] thats okay [10:38] Action: spook_ arms the orbital ion cannon network [10:38] Action: rawramp ducks [10:38] He's got a good grasp of the semi-colon but his number theory appear a bit limited. 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[11:33] thumbs: ah, ok [11:33] hi everybody [11:33] leamsi (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [11:33] MIrrorIMage: usually, folks use your nick when they want to talk to you [11:34] what can I use to stream divx in my home's wifi lan? [11:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:34] thumbsper: You sure? [11:35] thumbs: dude, I knew that. I thought you had a question that I missed [11:35] MIrrorIMage: laughing is a great way to ask questions, sure. [11:36] thumbs: thanks man! :) [11:37] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] hahaha [11:38] Action: dive ducks [11:39] dive: did you have a question? [11:40] no cos I would have said 'hahaha?' [11:40] hahaha? [11:40] i was making a statement [11:40] dive: that was MIrrorIMage's argument. [11:40] dive: apparently, if you say hahaha out of the blue, you have a question [11:41] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "You can't fire me....." [11:41] ;-) [11:41] I may have had a question but I forget now [11:41] me too [11:42] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:42] nathanbw: hey [11:43] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [11:43] i think i want to work on writing a script that utilizes avidemux to prepare an xvid avi to be watched on the xbox 360 [11:43] hashed_ (n=eshepard@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] problem is, i can't program and i don't know any languages [11:45] So? [11:45] Fortunately for you, this can simply be scripted. [11:45] yeah [11:45] i need to learn the command line interface of avidemux [11:45] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html [11:45] Get cracking. [11:46] If you're really clever with cron and/or fam you could even make a magic folder, where you deposit your movie and magically a few hours later it is a properly formated avi [11:48] katmio (n=juanma@89.129.29.174) joined ##slackware. [11:48] ffmpeg even tries to auto-magically detect the input source, so some combination of the two should put you in transcoding heaven! [11:51] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:52] confrey (n=chatzill@94.162.135.68) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.14/2008120415]" [11:53] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [11:53] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.234) joined ##slackware. [11:54] leamsi (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:54] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [11:56] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [11:56] avidemux does detect what the input source is [11:56] hell, file detects what the input source [11:56] Even better! [11:57] Wait, if that's the case, what are you scripting? [11:57] isn't it a single line at the command prompt? [11:59] one sec [12:01] well, it will depend on what needs to be done [12:01] adding subtitles, combining avis, etc [12:02] or both [12:02] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: "Leaving" [12:02] Ah yeah there are those functions. So you want a script that takes a few different parameters to control those things [12:02] Or you'd rather automate the whole thing? [12:02] well [12:03] ie) detect if there's a subtitle file, if so add it, otherwise move on? [12:03] yeah [12:04] WTF. i can hear Kids out in the hall [12:04] well, first check how many video files there are. then check if they have subtitles. if they need subtitles, hard code the respective subtitles [12:04] then combine the videos, if necessary [12:05] and rename them and move them to a different directory, and remove the original files [12:05] Sounds like you have the logical process all worked out [12:06] yeah i know the process that i go through every time i prepare them manually [12:06] I would hand-remove the originals, though. You never know where something reports a "success!" error code that actually fails. [12:06] eviljames: i'd always still have the original archives [12:06] i leave those intact, and extract them to my video directory [12:07] and you know nothing of programming? don't recognize for loops or if/then/else logic? [12:07] i know a little [12:07] i've used linux for a decade, so i've picked up a little bit here and there [12:07] whoa [12:08] A decade? I figure you would be a shell script ninja by now [12:08] i switched to ubuntu at some point :-/ [12:08] heretic. [12:08] i can write a basic shell script [12:08] But, you're a good guy, so I won't hold it against you :) [12:08] eeww! ubuntu eewwbuntu! [12:08] Good! We're cooking with gas now! [12:08] i've never had much reason to write an involved one [12:09] linux is kind of shit now [12:09] dionysian: so if you can write a basic shell script then [12:09] dionysian: "for i in `ls /some/folder` ; do" insert a few lines of what you want it to do "; done" [12:09] dionysian: at that point you can access teh file in $i, right? [12:10] Linux is great, its just that 95% of distro developers build a crappy distro, Slackware is one of the few that dont suck [12:10] pfft [12:10] I'd disagree. [12:10] Action: ImmutableDark shoots Pig_Pen in the leg [12:10] well not for i because i don't want the script to process the second video file, if there are two parts [12:10] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] dionysian: I'd expect the script to organize everything first, then execute. [12:11] hmm [12:11] i have to take the dogs out, brb [12:11] dionysian: Perhaps you dump all the video files and all teh subtitle files into a single folder, with similar names/numbering schemes [12:11] dionysian, there are more options [12:11] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:11] you should just read up on bash scripting [12:11] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:11] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:12] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] ImmutableDark: On the other hand, we're all sitting on irc watching join/part messages and it's saturday mornign (at least for me). why not engage the quetsions dionysian is asking? [12:12] don't bother reading anything that tells you you're new and crap [12:12] condescending bastards know nothing [12:12] Action: eviljames constantly has keys coming in backwards on the laptop. [12:13] ImmutableDark: Yeah, like that condescending prick Linus Torvolds, always telling people why they're wrong on the lkml.. oh wait. [12:13] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) joined ##slackware. [12:13] nah he's just right [12:14] just ignore immutableDork hes a troll :D [12:14] haha [12:14] ImmutableDark: That's what I usually say when people talk about Theo De Raadt [12:14] just ignore Pig_Pen he's a generic fucktard that makes stupid unjustified socially acceptable generalisations [12:14] Above all the things I love about open source, the ego and hubris of the contributors. [12:15] eviljames, I'm not really in the mood to smack talk with you man [12:15] Smack talk? [12:15] anyone have an idea why "HWADDR[4]="00:00:00:00:00:01" won't work for me. Thats not the actual mac I'm using either. [12:15] chopp: are you trying to override/emulate a different mac? [12:15] you using ifconfig to spoof a mac address ? [12:16] by the [4] I would guess iwconfig [12:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] eviljames: yes, spoofing another mac for my firewall. What should the [4] be? [12:17] chopp: Oh, maybe that's my mistake, but I thought the rc.inet1.conf script's 4th section was for wifi [12:18] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] bed [12:19] chopp: [x] should be whatever your card is.. ie eth0 = HWADDR[0] ; eth1 = [1] etc [12:19] eviljames: I can change it manually, but need it changed with inet1.conf. [12:19] chopp: And it's for eth4? [12:19] (to follow up on what BP{k} said) [12:19] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] katmio (n=juanma@89.129.29.174) left irc: "leaving" [12:19] BP{k}: ahh ok makes sense. It's eth1 [12:20] chopp: int that case $CONFIG[1]="your friend" ;) [12:20] Who says you don't get good support with a free os? [12:20] thanks guys. :) [12:20] Action: BP{k} goes hunting for bacon. [12:20] BP{k}: I'll trade you for some eggs? [12:21] eviljames: ... hmm no dice, sorry man. Keth is making bacon and egg butties, on homemade bread. =) [12:21] num num num [12:21] :-) [12:21] that sounds awesome [12:22] Now I want some breakfast... time to go wake up the wife! [12:22] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [12:22] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.134.210) joined ##slackware. [12:22] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.234) left irc: ":wq" [12:23] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-211-29-170.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:31] dionysian: I have 3 desktops that have been converted to various purposes + 1 laptop in the house [12:31] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:31] dionysian: And by house i mean 1 bedroom 700sqft apartment [12:32] heh [12:32] well, i guess i should get started learning some more advanced shell scripting [12:32] have either of you guys set up a media server on any of those comps? [12:32] bradhex: yes [12:32] At my house I've got four Slackware desktops, and my daughter has a Macbook. [12:33] bradhex: Depends on what you mean by media server. If you mean file server that the htpc reads from, then yes. [12:33] dionysian, what do you use to stream? [12:33] icecast [12:33] hitest good man [12:33] :) [12:33] that's good to know, i've used vlc and i'm not very happy with it. [12:33] but i don't use the streaming server, i've just used http. [12:33] i haven't done anything for streaming video [12:33] hitest: 1 slamd64/slackware desktop (dual boot with shared /home), 1 Opensolaris server, 1 FreeBSD htpc and a slackware/slamd64 dual-boot lappy :D [12:33] ah. [12:34] nice [12:35] I tried ubuntu on the laptop, gf rejected it and demanded slackware back. <3 [12:35] best girlfriend ever [12:35] eviljames: nice [12:35] is she making you breakfast? [12:36] yeah......I've recently removed debian from my wife's workstation...all slackware again:) [12:36] eviljames: installed kubuntu on my girl friend's laptop [12:36] she _is_ breakfast :-) [12:36] Heh [12:36] eviljames: I will see if she's ready for slackware as she uses linux more and more [12:36] I run slackware, slackware-current on thel aptop, slackware on kethry's manchine. [12:37] i still don't understand the perception that slackware is somehow harder than other distros [12:37] thumbs: The best bet I find is to get them hooked on amarok and digikam. [12:37] dionysian: nah, I let her sleep :) [12:37] eviljames: yes, I gave her amarok. [12:38] eviljames: I think kethry once mutters something like: "if you install windows on my machine ever again, i am leaving." ;) [12:38] BP{k}: haha awesome. [12:38] lol [12:38] eviljames: it's kubuntu, so moving to slack + KDE would be almost transparent for her [12:38] thumbs: Except goign from 4.2 -> 3.5.10 (unless you kde4 your slackware) [12:39] it's funny, she now refers to it as her 'K' computer. [12:39] Isn't kubuntu on 4 now? [12:39] yes [12:39] hahahahahahaha [12:39] eviljames: I used the 8.04 [12:39] Yeah, my wife likes her new Slackware station better than Debian, KDE makes a lot of sense to her. [12:39] thumbs: Hopefully a k-computer is better than a k-car. [12:39] eviljames: hahaha [12:39] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [12:40] I actually made a tiny XP partition, which was used 3 times, and now apparently the wifi is broken on it already. [12:40] such a waste of time [12:40] to quote her: "I like K better. It's so much more reliable" [12:41] thumbs: Agreed. I had XP on my new PC for 1-2 days.....then formatted, put Slackware on. [12:41] thumbs: This laptop originally came with vista. It didn't last long, "why do I have to update norton every few hours? I'll set that to ignore. What's this about windows update? Ignore!" [12:41] evo- (n=evo@p57A55386.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [12:42] thumbs: followed a few days later: "James, the laptop doesn't work anymore. make it the same as the desktop!" [12:42] eviljames: I booted with the slack 12.1 dvd, and deleted the partition table. Vista was never born on it. [12:42] lol [12:43] I would NEVER inflict Vista on any of my unsuspecting friends [12:43] i took great rellish in scraping the windows xp sticker off this laptop but i left the intel (for now) [12:43] dive: what did you use to remove the glue? [12:43] dive: the residual glue, that is [12:43] goo-Gone [12:43] lighter fluid [12:43] haha [12:43] and hard rubbing [12:43] A blowtorch [12:43] Hehe......good idea......I still have the XP sticker on my unit [12:44] i use a petrol lighter so always comes in handy ;) [12:44] hitest: use the most xp-like theme possible and tell everyone it is the upcoming Windows 8 [12:44] LOL [12:44] hitest: say "Oh, Windows 7 is already obsolete... look what they're doing for the next generation!" [12:44] in the end, the users don't care. [12:44] they want their computer to work [12:44] true [12:44] eviljames, nonono use a tabbed window manager and tell them it's windows 8 ;-) [12:45] hahaha [12:45] dive: Maybe change your name to evildive, because that is a sinister idea [12:45] :) [12:45] nille__ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] :> [12:45] It would be really funny if Windows 8 actually ended upbeing a fork of xmonad or something.. [12:46] I'm just stuck in the old way of doing things I guess. People say they get huge productivity increases by using tabbed window manager, but I just don't feel it. [12:46] can anyone think of a good reason why i would encrypt my entire OS (as much as possible) rather than just /home ? [12:46] I'd rather keep the windowing paradigm we have now and spread them out across 4 or 6 monitors. [12:46] TwinReverb: A completely stealthy slice on the disk [12:46] "Because you want to?" [12:46] TwinReverb: To store your 'sensitive' porn. [12:47] TwinReverb: To keep you from accessing your own stuff and screwing it up? [12:47] the USA has already had someone ordered to decrypt their drive by the courst [12:47] courts, rather [12:47] I think having a stealth partition isn't a terrible idea. [12:47] TwinReverb, to make it interesting to do data recovery from a boot cd [12:49] tabbed window manager? [12:50] dionysian: xmonad or awesome and the like [12:50] I am only worried about losing a laptop and someone reading my pop3 passes etc [12:50] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-140-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [12:50] never tried them [12:51] dive: unless you're on pop3+ssl, the password is sent over the wire clear text anyway [12:51] but I usually log out of all ttys and lock screen with a pass when I hibernate/suspend [12:51] eviljames, yeah but that's true [12:52] And, if you're on wifi, the password is being broadcast in clear text to everyone nearby [12:52] I am [12:53] Well, I think it's time to think up a new justification for /home encryption [12:53] but that takes at least some effort to aquire - losing a laptop and someone reading .fetchmailrc and .netrc is too easy [12:53] for example: losing your laptop and making sure people don't get access to your accounting records, or photo collection [12:53] eviljames, huh? [12:53] "the USA has already had someone ordered to decrypt their drive by the court" [12:54] TwinReverb: http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/03/individual-compelled-decrypt-drive-child-porn-case [12:54] Of course, anything can be done in the name of child porn [12:54] mikeb (n=mikeb332@rrcs-71-43-112-250.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] or terrorism. ;) [12:55] of course! [12:55] BP{k}: I think both are so over-used and hyped up by legislators [12:56] BP{k}: just to whip the lowest common denominator into a fury, or justify whatever totalitarian action they're trying to push forward. [12:56] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] the only other hurdle i can think of is how to specify a mount place in /etc/fstab for my external drive and what options to use [12:56] eviljames: come on, didn't you know we're living in this wonderful police state called the uk? ;) [12:56] but I agree. [12:57] TwinReverb: hurdle for what now? [12:57] BP{k}: I always feel fortunate to be in Canada. [12:58] eviljames, encrypting my external USB hard drive [12:58] DeeeeP (i=0@bl8-66-151.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:58] BP{k}: Mind you, we do restrict our free speech slightly, but otherwise it's a pretty free place to be. [12:58] eviljames, in canada they can still take a copy of your encrypted data [12:58] ognian (n=ognian@80.80.146.180) joined ##slackware. [12:58] tank-man: Indeed, they can, but they have to brute force it. [12:59] a society without rules destroys itself. a society with too many rules strangles itself. a society with too few rules falls apart. [12:59] tank-man: you cannot be compelled by the court to decrypt, nor be held in contempt for not doing so (yet). [12:59] TwinReverb: Well said, sir. [12:59] thanks, but not my words [12:59] i'm just a parrott [12:59] (sp?) [12:59] TwinReverb: and in answer to your question about fstab, I'd ignore it altogether and write a script that calls for the password to mount the external usb key [12:59] hi! i accidently removed rc.hotplug and rc.slanluns 3 months ago and now i realised that i need them to run my usb stick ... can someone help me with this ? or give me some example files ? [13:00] TwinReverb: you mean "parrot"? [13:00] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: ":q!" [13:00] no, not an external usb key, it's my backup, so it can sit on /etc/fstab because /etc/cron.daily/backup will update it [13:00] ah [13:00] we were once a kingdom ruled by kings, then an empire ruled by emperors, now we're a country.... [13:00] it's the first step towards me then encrypting my /home [13:01] I don't encrypt mine. Then again, someone either has to break into my top-floor apartment to get at my drives [13:01] or they'd have to rob me on one of the rare occasions where the systems leave the house [13:01] i have a laptop and an external hard drive. it's not hard to steal either of those. [13:01] i'm not worried about the theft, i'm worried about them taking my information [13:03] dive: where are you talking about? [13:03] dionysian: kingdom, kings, empire, emperor, country... (guess?) [13:03] anyone... ? [13:03] england mainly but i bet the same is true other places [13:04] ohHAH [13:04] Action: eviljames fails [13:04] dionysian: I read "what are you.." not "where are you.." [13:04] dive: "now we're a coutnry ruled by CCTV?" ;) [13:04] BP{k}, lol and that :) [13:04] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:05] cctv as opposed to darpa [13:06] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:06] i'd rather have cctv that we knew about than darpa doing whatever it wants with no transparency [13:07] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [13:10] wtf [13:10] dionysian: Why are you complaining about darpa? [13:11] dionysian: You do realize that you're on the DARPAnet right now, right? [13:11] oh lawdy [13:11] google darpa domestic surveillance [13:11] No, it's too scary. [13:11] Action: eviljames shuts his eyes [13:12] wait [13:12] The top link was from infowars.com [13:12] That immediately invalidates whatever point is being made. [13:12] Alex Jones is f-in CRAZY, dude. [13:12] ognian (n=ognian@80.80.146.180) left irc: "Leaving" [13:12] tin foil hat on to tight? [13:13] Actually, the way I view him is twofold. On the one hand, if he was right about anything he said he would be 'disappeared' into the night [13:13] The "NWO/ILLUMINATI" and whatever else he rambles on about losing control of the world to would have him offed -- if they existed. [13:13] On the other hand, if they do exist he is exactly the type of shill that they would pay to spew disinformation out to the masses [13:13] In short: Don't trust a word of it. [13:15] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.sub-75-216-96.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] eviljames: you have a good perspective on the whole mess [13:22] Pig_Pen: would you like to sign up to my quarterly newsletter? [13:22] ;) [13:22] sure [13:22] I've often thought about putting my excess ramblings into blog format [13:23] Then I realize that nobody would read it, so what's the point [13:23] you would get some readers, maybe not millions but a few hundred or a few thousand [13:24] sigh [13:24] im reading what you type here, i dont think your blog material can be better :) [13:25] and i dont think alex jones is crazy [13:25] i guess i'm going to have to learn avidemux scripting [13:25] not normal but not crazy [13:25] because it looks like the command line interface is very limited [13:25] alex jones is about one neuron away from the funny farm [13:25] tank-man: so.. you would read my blog? Or you think it would be as much garbage as I type here? [13:25] eviljames: i don't think i've ever read anything by that guy on it [13:26] dionysian: on infowars.com? [13:26] on darpa [13:26] i would stop at what you type here, unless i knew you personaly [13:28] Alex Jones just takes news stories he reads and connects the dots. Only flaw in that is not everything you read is true [13:28] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.80.229.132) joined ##slackware. [13:29] tank-man: I think he makes more random connections than are neccessary. [13:29] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office [13:30] tank-man: And tries to fit the stories into his narrative. [13:30] Afternoon * [13:30] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) left irc: "later" [13:30] gtg [13:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] dionysian: ahh yea, another great program designed in the name of terrorism. [13:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] more likely is they were waiting to put it into motion and terrorist provided a good cover [13:33] there are always fascist elements pushing domestic surveillance [13:34] heh [13:34] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] it's not even a conspiracy theory or anything [13:34] Domestic Surveillance is what took down Nixon, it has been going on since before half this room was born (myself included) [13:35] well... i'm talking about a different kind of thing [13:35] According to the wikipedia page you linked to, John Poindexter brought the IOA to the president after 9/11 [13:36] just like they came up with the idea for attacking iraq after 9/11, right? [13:36] obviously nobody had even CONSIDERED it prior to september 11 [13:36] haha [13:36] It's common knowledge that Iraq was the plan all along, hell I knew it was in early 01 [13:37] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:37] of course [13:37] look at pnac [13:37] dionysian: I had a friend in the military advise me that warships were assembling somewhere and he wasn't allowed to tell me where [13:37] dionysian: But he did say "it's somewhere we've been before, in your lifetime" [13:37] dionysian: I had to think, "is it Iraq or Bosnia... how much oil do they have in Bosnia?" [13:39] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host91-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:39] http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf [13:40] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:40] published a full year before 9/11 [13:40] they founded their organization in 97 or so [13:41] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76973.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] greetings [13:42] and their mission statement was signed by cheney, wolfowitz, rumsfeld, etc [13:42] salutatinos [13:42] http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm [13:42] most of the people on that list were high level bush administration officials [13:43] this isn't conspiracy theory stuff, this is their own site [13:43] slackytude: Red Dwarf Reruns night \o/ [13:43] BP{k}, oy! [13:43] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:43] man oh man, I haven't seen Red Dwarf in ages [13:43] BP{k}, wasnt that supposed to be in april? [13:44] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:44] joelxr (n=joel@201009241062.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] someone use gnome in slack? [13:45] slackytude: no, Those are the specials. (*aka series 8),. These are just a good couple of hours (9pm-2am) of old episodes. [13:45] ahh I see [13:46] well, I might watch some episodes as well then, to get in the spirit of the thing [13:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:46] wotcha BP{k} [13:46] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:46] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) left irc: "Leaving." [13:46] I wont be doing anything that requires effort tonite [13:47] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [13:47] tribeca (n=naitso@host60-173-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:47] spent the whole day getting insane amounts of wood out of the forrest [13:47] BP{k}: specials? [13:47] BP{k}: Red Dwarf specials?! [13:47] eviljames, new episodes n april [13:48] slackytude, u live in the woods ? [13:48] DeeeeP, sorta [13:48] excuse but someone know how to use gnome in slackware 12.2? [13:48] that's nice [13:48] Action: slackytude nods [13:48] eviljames: http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2008/09/19/new-red-dwarf-specials-confirmed/ [13:48] joelxr: there are things like dropline-gnome, but it isn't something that is supported [13:48] DeeeeP, but getting to work/university is a pita [13:49] joelxr: or encouraged ;) [13:49] slackytude, too far ? [13:49] joelxr: there are several third party projects, that do gnome. I would probably look at something like GSB. [13:49] DeeeeP, well, I'll need an hour with public transport. if you have a car its better [13:49] obviously [13:49] yeah [13:50] could be worse I guess [13:50] hm I might get to germany some point this year. [13:50] BP{k}, which part? [13:51] slackytude: North-West, (rough estimate about hour and half west of Bremen. [13:52] BP{k}: thanks for the link! Hopefully they shut off my BBC News channel to play these shows :D [13:52] BP{k}, not my area then. business trip? [13:52] I use slackware 12.1 but I want use now 12.2. In 12.1 there is GSlacy madden by italian society.. In 12.2 I don't know, do you know somehign about this? [13:52] BP{k}, never been there either, actually ^-^ [13:52] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-122-72.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] slackytude: negative, the /dev/parents moved there. [13:53] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-122-72.nyc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [13:53] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [13:53] joelxr: GSlacky is made by italians. Version has little to do with it. [13:53] BP{k}, nice [13:54] slackytude: I stayed in Germany for a year doing my National Service is a little village called 'Blomberg' (roughly near the town of Bielefeld). [13:54] Bielefeld? that town doesnt exist [13:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld-Verschwörung [13:55] http://www.bielefeld.de/ [13:55] LOL> [13:56] you must be one of *them* -_- [13:56] slackytude: well obviously I've never *been* there ;) [13:56] lol [13:56] hehe [13:56] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:59] joelxr: also *IF* you have any question you can ask them in channel, instead of wasting my time with pm-ing me, which I will not answer. [14:00] ok [14:00] lol [14:01] BP{k}: can i install gslacky used in my slackware 12.2 in 12.1? [14:01] joelxr: as for your question; 1) I don't know. I don't really use gnome 2) I would not install a version of gnome compiled for 12.1 on top of a 12.2 installation. [14:01] (or vice versa) [14:02] ok thanks [14:03] joelxr (n=joel@201009241062.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [14:05] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@200-138-209-53.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] Hrm, lilo -T vol-id shows that I have a duplicated volume ID how do I fix this ? [14:06] ah -z -M switche [14:07] there is nothing wrong though [14:07] What with duplicate volume id's ? [14:07] Nick change: UdontKnow -> [ [14:07] right [14:07] MrDusty: did you clone a disk or something? [14:07] Itr is just annoying and slows booting slightly. [14:08] No, I bought two USB external drives, a 1TB one and 500GB one, I have been installing different operating systems on them and playing around with them. [14:08] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A75F8B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [14:09] MrDusty: can you paste us the output of the lilo command and also fdisk -l [14:09] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:11] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Certainly. [14:12] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: [14:12] nullboy, http://rafb.net/p/FVNcvM18.html [14:12] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Nick change: [ -> UdontKnow [14:14] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:14] i don't see any problems. did you give the disks the same volume ids or something? the UUID's look different [14:15] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-140-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHH!" [14:17] i can't connect to cups (it's running). i'm trying http://localhost:631/ using my wireless interface wlan0 [14:18] Dllbrt (i=dilbert@dialup-4.244.144.103.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] nille_: what does the browser show as an error? [14:19] it times out [14:19] nmap shows it as filtered [14:20] and i got no firewall [14:20] yes, finally have an slackware firewall up. fsck pfsense, fsck endian, slackware ftw. Soon to be my AP too. [14:21] pfsense? [14:21] nille_: ??? local or wireless [14:21] chopp: me too [14:21] wireless but connected local with usb [14:21] chopp: i'm waiting for the kernel and hostapd guys to sort out their issues first [14:21] then i'll enable the AP half of mine [14:22] DeeeeP, btw, this is where I live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odenwald nice place [14:23] nullboy: crap, so hostapd will give me problems as of yet? [14:23] with ath5k it will [14:23] nullboy, Sorry I took the fdisk -l and lilo output AFTER I resolved the issue with lilo -z -M /dev/X ;-] [14:23] slackytude2: http://www.pfsense.com/ [14:23] slackytude, lovely pictures , loved it [14:23] nullboy: ah ok, so I should be allright with madwifi for now then? [14:24] DeeeeP, ^-^ [14:24] nille_: I am still a bit confused, but try it by ip [14:24] chopp, I see. you say it aint good? [14:24] slackytude, looks very medieval [14:24] well i tried the ip and still nothing [14:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76973.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:25] slackytude2: I didn't say that. I just never attempted a slackware firewall. [14:25] chopp: yeah probably [14:26] nille_: did you try using 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost? [14:26] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [14:26] yes i did [14:26] mikeb (n=mikeb332@rrcs-71-43-112-250.se.biz.rr.com) left irc: No route to host [14:27] i even copied the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default over /etc/cups/cupsd.conf [14:27] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [14:28] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:28] but what makes me abit confused is that i need the -PN for nmap to see port 631 [14:29] and i got no firewall [14:29] and i got the same on 2 of my laptops [14:29] nille_: if you are tying remotely then you have to use ip address and also allow remote logins IIRC [14:29] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [14:30] well i want the 127.0.0.1 to work no need for remotly [14:30] localhost will only work from the machine running the server [14:31] thats the same machine [14:31] then where does the wireless part come in? [14:32] well it doesn't relly [14:32] ps ax | grep cupsd [14:32] valvola (n=fabiovio@host179-28-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:32] valvola (n=fabiovio@host179-28-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] is it running [14:33] yes [14:33] 3112 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd [14:33] hmm [14:33] i used cups many times before [14:34] i don't get it and on 2 diffrent installs [14:35] the only thing thats not like it was before is that i now use wicd [14:41] browser configured to use a proxy or something stupid like that? [14:42] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] does anyone have a slackbuild for crda and/or regdb? [14:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] i just manually built them as of now [14:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:47] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] what's the standard package format in slackware? [14:48] Dllbrt: tgz [14:48] that sounds good [14:48] Dllbrt: tarred up compiled files and docs, essentially. [14:48] and source tgz files are included in lenny? [14:48] slackware packages are just gzipped tarballs with a layout structure and built in install scripts [14:49] Dllbrt: what? [14:49] how does lenny factor into slackware? [14:49] it does not. [14:49] sorry, wrong channel [14:49] I'm running mandriva and shopping for another distro [14:50] How does Karl factor into slackware? [14:50] make sure you get a good price. [14:50] Action: chopp stabs lenny with one of spooks frozen eels [14:50] chopp: But I wasn't supposed to get eel in my eye! [14:50] Dllbrt: different places will charge more [14:50] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] I've got a couple of places to shop from [14:50] eviljames: step away from the scene. [14:51] hahaha [14:51] Action: eviljames wanders away as quickly as he wandered in [14:51] lol [14:51] Afternoon(or evenin' or mornin'),folks [14:52] does slackware have a pretty good way to set up video and monitor? [14:53] Dllbrt: xorgcfg ? [14:53] i.e, can you set it to any resolution that your monitor will work at? [14:53] Dllbrt: http://slackbasics.org/ [14:53] Dllbrt: yep xorg.conf [14:53] snL20, not familiar with that. [14:54] whatever, just read http://slackbasics.org or http://slackbook.org [14:54] Dllbrt: try running it [14:54] then we can answer better questions [14:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:54] I read the installation steps and it sounded like it's something I'm ok with [14:55] Dllbrt: install it into virtualbox/vmware/qemu first, try it out [14:55] Dllbrt: You'll probably notice more than a few differences from what you're used to but it is worth your time to learn it. [14:55] I'd put it on an old test system first [14:55] i must be retarded, because i can't seem to get an avidemux script to run [14:55] dionysian: pastebin ? [14:55] i copied the example and it segfaults [14:55] http://pastebin.com/m33d5ea46 [14:55] nille__ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:56] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] .js ? [14:56] oh nvm. [14:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] dionysian: what does .avidemux/crash.js show? [14:57] or is that the backtrack that is in the pastebin? [14:58] it doesn't actually create .avidemux/crash.js [14:58] oh, ok... just pulled that from the log [14:58] Does anyone of you read usenet newsgroups ? If so what server can I use, they all seem to be ones that cost ? [14:59] what problems do you have with avidemux and how did you install it? [14:59] MrDusty: doesn't google groups go into the newsgroups? [15:00] i don't have problems with avidemux and i installed it with a slackbuild [15:00] not sure let me check them out [15:00] I find google's services to be generally good and useful, relatively easy to use, and I know they'd never do anything evil like censor freedom of speech in Chin.. oh wait.. [15:01] dionysian: It looks like the issue is avidemux itself, per the backtrack [15:01] ok i only wonder because i'm the maintainer of the slackbuild @ slackbuilds.org [15:01] dionysian: [15:02] hmm. enter key should not be *that* close to backspace I think. [15:03] speaking of keys, i think the capslock key should trade places with the esc key [15:04] get the capslock key away from the tab & shift keys [15:04] nille__: can you see what i'm doing wrong? [15:04] i wasn't logged in when you explained what up [15:04] http://pastebin.com/m33d5ea46 [15:04] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [15:06] eviljames, google groups is an online resource through a web app. I want to connect to it and use it through the application PAN. [15:06] MrDusty: then pay for usenet access [15:06] giganews is a popular one [15:07] chopp: i may have found the patches i need to fix ath5k + hostapd [15:07] testing now [15:07] I have not used it since the old days, I take it you have to pay for it these days ? [15:07] pretty much [15:07] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] nullboy: hey awsome, let me know. [15:07] you might be able to find some free text only server [15:07] Ah, OK, not a problem. [15:07] but good luck [15:08] what about textnews.news.cambrium.nl ? [15:09] Thank you eviljames! :-] [15:09] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:10] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] dionysian i couldn't spot the error [15:11] eviljames, how did you find that one by the way ? [15:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:13] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-24.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-24.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:14] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] MrDusty, you might first check with your isp. some of them used to provide newsgroup access in their service [15:16] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:17] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:19] MrDusty: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=usenet+servers [15:20] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:20] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-18-62-50.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] elektr1k_ (n=keiosu@ip68-109-0-89.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] roflmao [15:23] that site is awesome. [15:23] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.65.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:24] http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305094eau1.html talk about a mean x-girlfriend [15:24] elektr1k_ (n=keiosu@ip68-109-0-89.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:24] MrDusty: you hadn't seen it before? [15:25] Dllbrt (i=dilbert@dialup-4.244.144.103.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 1.1.14/2008120415]" [15:25] MrDusty: or are you just commenting on the awesomeness of it? :D [15:25] lol,Pig_Pen [15:25] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:30] tribeca (n=naitso@host60-173-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [15:31] she is a mean one [15:32] wrecked his life [15:32] haha wow [15:33] Apparently I need to do a little more with power monitoring settings, I was in the middle of tying a response to that and my laptop spontaneously *POOF* died. [15:33] how much juice was left,eviljames? [15:34] eviljames: i make mine notify me @ 10% and automagically halt @ 3% [15:34] eviljames, never seen it before - and the awesomeness. [15:35] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) joined ##slackware. [15:35] nullboy: I'm using the kde4 testing/ packages on the slamd64 side, the battery monitor plasmoid doesn't seem to have those options [15:35] nullboy: but those are the right settings imho. Further, it should scale the processor back to about 60% when on battery [15:35] hrm [15:36] I might check out KDE 4. [15:36] where is the best place to get it from ? [15:36] slackware-current/testing [15:36] is it useable ? [15:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] I've preferred kde4 since the beta/rc days of last year [15:37] So consider my enthusiastic "yes" a biased response. [15:37] heh [15:37] can you take a screenshot of your desktop so I can check it out ? [15:37] ahaha nope. [15:38] That machine has to charge. I'm sitting at the desktop now, which is slamd64/kde3.5.10 [15:38] =p [15:38] plz hold [15:38] is slamd64 stable and whats the package situation like for it ? [15:39] MrDusty: http://kde.org/announcements/4.1/index.php [15:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] MrDusty: that has a bunch of screenshots, slightly outdated. [15:40] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn254.91-127-2.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:46] Ohio school gets 700 applicants -- for one janitorial job! [15:46] desperate rimes [15:46] times too [15:46] yup [15:48] i like to look for yard sales and seems like even the junk in this town has gone to heck too [15:48] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:49] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] people are not spending money on new junk and are keeping thier junk longer, so what does get put up for sale is really junky junk [15:49] i have a lot of work myself [15:51] mpa_ (n=mpa@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Pig_Pen: never bothered with garage sales [15:53] i call them trash sales [15:53] Pig_Pen: if you're looking for harware and will pay for shipping, I have a bunch you can just have [15:53] heh [15:53] mostly it is things i have no interest in, on rare occasions i find a real treasure, i look for used two-way radios mostly, or tube type radios [15:53] mobos, procs, sound cards, no idea wtf to do with it. [15:54] C4 [15:54] naw, i dont need any computer hardware [15:54] build a usable PC and sell it for pocket money [15:54] the computer is free the shipping cost $275.00 [15:54] I've found a number of cool things at garage sales. It certainly has expanded my vinyl collection [15:54] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [15:55] Pig_Pen: I only build PCs for work and friends. [15:55] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] EVIL JAMES [15:55] OH NOES [15:55] besides, I don't have any cases, so I'd have to invest 100 bucks to make it back on a p4 w/ 512mb of ram or something [15:56] mpa_ (n=mpa@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [15:56] i'm considering building a super computer =) [15:56] acidchild: A super computer, or a supercomputer? [15:56] a supercomputer [15:56] MPI probly [15:57] You can just buy one from Cray for $25,000 [15:57] with a cape and a big red "S" on its chest? [15:57] mmmm... [15:57] what do Crays run>? [15:57] And I think NV is goign to be releasing a new model later this year around $10,000 [15:57] what arch? [15:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:57] i've got a colocation space i wana put it in. [15:57] =] [15:58] acidchild, what's your budget from this supercomputer ? [15:58] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:58] https://cx1.cray.com/Default.aspx [15:58] apparently they run fucking windows [15:58] lol i dunno, depends on the partental return from it [15:58] eviljames : no need for such language [15:58] ananke: the overtone would probably have been more humourous in reality [15:58] ananke: apologies [15:58] Action: acidchild wasn't offended. [15:59] DeeeeP: where you offended? [15:59] i was [15:59] no, not really [15:59] if your scared motherf* go to church [15:59] har [15:59] athe0s (n=mpa@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:59] if i had that kind of cash i would pull up every stitch of carpet out of this house and install a new hardwood laminate floor [16:00] athe0s (n=mpa@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [16:00] acidchild : don't be an imbecile. and it's 'you're', not to mention that being offended by such language has nothing to do with religion [16:00] I can't imagine spending $20k on a floor. [16:00] who says church has gotta do with religion [16:00] i go for the free food [16:00] acidchild : if your scared motherf* go to church [16:00] comfort food [16:01] makes everything okey [16:01] 22 hundred square feet, 4 bedrooms plus two dining rooms & an office room [16:01] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-5-160.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:01] big house [16:01] yup [16:01] Pig_Pen: dude... pix! [16:02] i noticed you the place i'm viewing on monday [16:02] =) [16:02] Pig_Pen : i've been thinking the same, but maybe for my next house. however, instead of hardwood laminate, using bamboo [16:02] bamboo looks nice, also cork flooring is good too [16:02] i like bamboo over cork [16:03] ww [16:03] http://www.lumberliquidators.com/ lots of flooring material [16:03] ops [16:04] dont know if bamboo can last 20 years without beeing all f**ked up [16:04] i am thinking cork tile in the bedrooms and either hardwood laminate or bamboo in the rest of the house, the kitchen has new tile [16:04] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.65.static.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:04] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Pig_Pen: does cork squeek? [16:04] lol [16:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] no, it is a tougher grade of cork than what is used in wine bottles [16:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [16:05] hardwood is so loud, but you can put under....cover..stuff.. [16:05] underlay? [16:05] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [16:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-23.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [16:05] the padding stuff? [16:06] yep [16:06] i want a room with that playground stuff [16:06] lol [16:06] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) joined ##slackware. [16:06] all walls.. [16:06] Spiko_ (i=Spiko@89-212-211-117.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] the rubber tire? [16:06] some stuff requires a vapour moisture seal to separate the flooring from the concrete [16:07] i just got a new Debit card, it has chip and pin [16:07] a plastic or vinyl layer [16:07] Go canada! only 3 years behind the rest of the world. [16:07] chip? [16:07] What good is that? [16:07] you use a PIN number not a signiture. [16:07] for all related visa and mastercards [16:07] i have to use a pin number anyway o.O [16:08] well some cards act as debit and creditcards [16:08] on this childs savings account (i wonder when they will take it away from me) its pointless [16:08] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [16:08] _AtheoS_ (n=mpa@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:09] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:09] i freaking got AP mode with hostapd + ath5k working [16:10] woo [16:11] Spiko (i=Spiko@89-212-211-117.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:11] M2crypto, crda, regdb, iw, hostapd/wpa_supplicant git versions, kernel 2.6.29-rc7 + AP mode patch, [16:11] geez. [16:12] here using a debit-card tied to a savings account costs money each time you withdrawl from it! [16:12] savings..yes [16:12] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] that makes sense [16:12] anyone know why top says im using 250 mb memory and htop tells me 50 [16:13] checking , use the card as credit is no charge, use it as debit and again charged [16:14] madbear: you aren't actually using 250mb like top says, 200 or so is sort of "on deck" as it were, readied for use at a moments notice [16:15] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] ag3ntugly: ok thank you, so i guess htop is the choice then? [16:16] if i wanna know im in deep water [16:16] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [16:17] yes it appears that htop is telling you what you're actually using [16:17] might i recommend gkrellm [16:18] josemanuel (n=josemanu@14.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-202-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] if you're trying to keep an eye on that sort of thing, it has many little monitors builtin, and tons of plugins [16:18] ag3ntugly: oh, but it wants me to go into this x [16:18] hehe [16:19] yeah ag3ntugly i now know, that thing. yeah will use it [16:20] ive just installed nvidia drivers and they are kind of not working as intended hehe [16:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [16:23] i can't even relate how happy i am now. access point mode with ath5k [16:24] Is there no ISO's of the slackware-current branch because it keeps changing ? [16:24] MrDusty, exactly [16:25] lo Camarade_Tux [16:25] you can make your own isos and there are mirrors with unofficial isos [16:25] hi slackytude2 :) [16:25] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slaackytude [16:25] Camarade_Tux, Ok, so is slackware-current not for installations then ? [16:25] Action: Camarade_Tux won't stay long, he only plugged his computer to run flam3 :d [16:26] MrDusty, you should be using stable ones most of the times [16:26] -current is usually very stable though [16:26] Action: Camarade_Tux has the flam3 frenzy :D [16:26] i run -current on my laptop and home server [16:27] This is the best channel on the whole freenodez. [16:27] Camarade_Tux, I just want some of the newer packages like KDE4 etc.. how would you go about installing, downloading the archieve and making your own iso ? [16:27] read up [16:27] look at the various mirrors [16:27] MrDusty, if you want kde4, -current might even be more stable than 12.2 ;p [16:28] nullboy, the mirrors have documentation ? [16:28] I think I would wait till 4.2.1 hits -current [16:28] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Action: Camarade_Tux is away [16:29] Yeah I may do, I am just testing all window managers untill I find one I am settled with I want to stray away from gnome. [16:29] <3 xfce [16:29] MrDusty: there are plenty of scripts floating around that will build an ISO for you [16:29] just search for the information [16:29] openbox :D [16:29] now, really afk [16:29] my computer keeps panic or something in x :/ [16:29] cant find anything in logs [16:30] madbear, thats bad [16:30] nullboy, I know how to build an ISO. I was just curious if I was overlooking something. [16:30] i keep panicing also, but noone will fix me =p [16:30] slaackytude: yeah, but its been more now when nvidia drivers messed up [16:31] now i cant go back to the old xorg, wont get glx anymore [16:31] had before with nv but not now [16:31] thats bad [16:31] Action: slaackytude isnt very helpful [16:31] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] madbear: try re-installing the xorg package [16:31] Nick change: slaackytude -> slckytude [16:32] alienBOB: nice yeah i will [16:32] *sigh* [16:32] Nick change: slckytude -> slackytude [16:32] but i have to handle this assignment in so i will keep viming until thats done hehe [16:32] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75F8B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] madbear: the xorg-server package contains the libGL* libraries that you are currently missing [16:34] alienBOB: reinstalling right now ! 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[16:51] I'll type it out in a pastebin [16:51] one sec [16:52] is your laptop in a lan with your desktop? [16:52] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:53] it's disconnect righ tnow [16:53] trying to get it hook edup [16:53] http://pastebin.ca/1355456 [16:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:53] there's my dmesg|tail [16:53] sorry, some typos [16:57] not sure, it looks like it loaded the driver just fine. [16:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] well...what device would the modem be at? [16:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] you coul try udevadm monitor [16:58] why i connect my pen and wont auto-mount in slackware ? [16:59] gives me a hal error [16:59] DeeeeP, member of plugdev group? [16:59] hmm [16:59] wait [16:59] HAL 9000 error? "I'm sorry, DeeeeP, I'm afraid I can't do that" [17:00] WhiteMagic (n=WhiteMag@p549FCF70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] reddy: I dont know, you could try looking in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog [17:04] m0nik3r5 (n=sluttySu@c-67-183-212-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [17:04] how do i do a print screen under console ? [17:05] import [17:05] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve19-2-0-cust712.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:05] good question :P [17:05] freshmeat it [17:06] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve19-2-0-cust712.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] slackytude, my HAL error > http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencoo.jpg [17:07] DeeeeP, member of plugdev group? [17:07] slackytude, yes, just added [17:07] need to logout and login again [17:08] do i need to close X then ? [17:08] Action: slackytude nods [17:08] rizitis (n=kvirc@athedsl-4560134.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:09] ok ill try [17:09] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.50.134) joined ##slackware. [17:11] DeeeeP (i=0@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:11] slackytude, no good , same error [17:11] O_o [17:11] whats the output of groups? [17:12] plugdev:x:83:userapp,root [17:12] thats not the output of groups [17:12] just type groups in a shell [17:12] bash-3.1# groups [17:12] root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy audio video cdrom tape plugdev [17:13] thats bad [17:14] cant work this thing out [17:14] always hal error [17:14] never configured nothing of hal [17:15] guess ill have to keep mounting old-fashioned way [17:15] is this the only stick that doesnt work? [17:15] nope ,all do the same [17:15] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [17:17] is anything that needs to run really running? d-bus, hald, udev? [17:18] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [17:20] yes , all 3 daemons running [17:20] DeeeeP: (1) you did logout yes, not just killed X? And (2) Stop using root and make yourself a proper account [17:20] rsync problem: http://rafb.net/p/oHWI3s61.html If i run it and then run it again, it always copies those two artists and that song and the song always has that error. [17:21] the rest of my 57 gigs of music update properly [17:21] i killed X and logged out [17:23] muraii (n=muraii@unaffiliated/muraii) left ##slackware. [17:24] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [17:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-135.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] DeeeeP, could you try it as normal user that is part of plugdev? [17:29] dont have X configured for that user [17:29] but ill try later [17:30] X is configured for every user or no user at all. There is no in-between [17:30] ok [17:32] reddy (n=reddy@ppp-67-124-90-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [17:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:34] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-202-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] t0f (n=foo@wlk-barre-69-72-77-224.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-202-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:44] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:45] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Client Quit [17:45] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:48] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-135.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [17:48] I wonder if one could get "Slack on this :) http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html [17:50] I am trying to install a package, not on SBo, and I made it with makepkg, which worked great. I ran ./configure --prefix=/slackpack, make, make install, and then ran makepkg. The INSTALL file for this package says to install to /usr/ to avoid a module not found error. Is there a way I can tell makepkg or something else to install to /usr/? [17:51] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] greetings and salutations [17:51] andarius: greetings. How are you today? [17:51] i am as well, and you ? [17:52] good, thanks. :) [17:52] mdeanda (n=mdeanda@cpe-76-170-19-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] josemanuel (n=josemanu@14.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:54] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060015e964b923.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:55] mdeanda (n=mdeanda@cpe-76-170-19-19.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("[part message goes here]"). [17:58] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:59] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:59] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [18:00] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:00] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] firebird619: --prefix=/usr probably :) [18:04] For sure [18:05] or --prefix=/slackpack/usr then dot he makepkg in /slackpack [18:06] kitche: I didn't think of that. I will give that a try. Thank you. [18:06] so, someone thought it would be a good idea to replace whiskey with cola-whiskey in a whiskey-cola, giving >75% whishky and <25% cola... [18:07] and I'm terribly sorry if I'l off-topic but I can't read what has been written... [18:08] hrhr [18:08] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "ON AIR! ...soon" [18:08] cola is bad for you anyway :P [18:09] the worst part is that I am perferctly aware and that only my senses are faliing [18:09] :) That worked. Thanks again guys. [18:09] your slurring your speech, you said whishky [18:09] Camarade_Tux, ah, I hate that [18:09] I should die in about 20 minutes btw [18:09] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.157.64) left irc: "leaving" [18:09] good time for it [18:10] 75% booze & 25% mixer would be a very stout mixed drink [18:10] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.88.240) joined ##slackware. [18:10] but flam3 will only finish its rendering in 27 minutes [18:10] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] Pig_Pen, and it was the fourth [18:11] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. 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[18:15] Im going to sleep [18:15] good night all [18:15] the last bottle I just saw was 53°/% [18:15] nighte [18:15] night slackytude [18:15] Camarade_Tux, hope you dont have a hangover ^-^ [18:15] Camarade_Tux: why are you drinking excessively? you know that is bad for you! [18:15] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:15] Action: Camarade_Tux will wait for flam3 to finish, in 22 minutes [18:15] slackytude, it should be ok, hopefully [18:15] with 53% bottles , its most certainly a hangover [18:15] I can still type correctly ;p [18:16] DeeeeP, I didn't touch that bottle ;p [18:16] only 3 whiskeys and one vodka in 20-30 minutes [18:16] i like good booze as much as anybody but i know when enough is enough, please dont hurt yourself Camarade_Tux [18:16] Pig_Pen, it doesn't happen that often to me [18:16] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.87.146) joined ##slackware. [18:16] you're making me want a drink... [18:16] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75F8B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "no time toulouse" [18:16] that's a lot of drinking for half an hour [18:16] DeeeeP, indeed. :p [18:17] good luck Camarade_Tux i hope you do not cause yourself harm [18:17] last night, johnnie walker red label [18:17] that's what i drink Urchlay [18:17] WhiteMagic (n=WhiteMag@p549FCF70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [18:17] with some coke or redbull [18:17] good stuff. Drank it with just ice, no coke or anything [18:17] t0f (n=foo@wlk-barre-69-72-77-224.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:17] sugar + alcohol messes up my stomach [18:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [18:18] used to drink Bushmill's a lot [18:18] dont know that [18:19] Irish whiskey, a little different from Scotch (sweeter) [18:20] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] unfortunately last night I had to drive home, so couldn't really drink my fill... [18:21] 20 minutes to go for flam3... [18:22] hi all \o [18:24] hi gar0t0 [18:25] Camarade_Tux: in brazil have one "camarede_tux" but in portugues "camarada" [18:25] :) [18:26] Action: fluxnuk3r needs caffeine. [18:27] fluxnuk3r: I drink beer in this moment [18:27] :D [18:27] no caffeine. [18:27] or "I'm drinking beer" is correct ? [18:27] i didnt say alcohol :P [18:27] having tea here:) [18:27] hitest: nice. [18:27] hot or cold? [18:27] cold now [18:27] :) [18:27] lol [18:28] 10 minutes before flam3 finishes, I don't know if I'll still be standing up by then [18:29] http://www.nooblife.com/games/384/gold-miner.html <-- cool game [18:29] :D [18:30] root__ (n=nukedclx@cpb122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:31] and I can do gar0t0's game with a pretty good accuracy, I hope flam3 finishes soon [18:32] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleeps" [18:32] is there an mpd client that lets you reconfigure audio devices? [18:33] Camarade_Tux: http://flam3.com/ ?? [18:33] Camarade_Tux: using flam3 all by itself, or as part of electricsheep? [18:34] Action: dionysian never got the point of electricsheep [18:35] alienBOB, by itself [18:35] what is flam3 ? [18:35] electricsheep had dependencies I didn't want to satisfy [18:35] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:36] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] gar0t0, yes [18:36] dionysian, showing it to chicks so you're not seen as an unrecoverable n3rd [18:37] I'd want to have flam3 random wallpapers :) [18:37] othermindszine (n=othermin@106.sub-70-192-93.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Camarade_Tux: what? [18:37] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] that's a terrible idea [18:39] Camarade_Tux: nice images [18:41] Camarade_Tux: what program you use "to/for" create flam3 ? [18:41] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:42] anyone here installed slack on external usb 2.0 disk? how's the speed? will i cry if i do it? [18:42] maybe self mutilation too [18:42] crap, the image flam3 rendere was not worth the two hours spend rendering = [18:43] / [18:43] Camarade_Tux: only dependency is MPlayer - is that something you do not like to have on your computer? [18:43] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:44] alienBOB, I didn't spend much time on it but it wanted some libgnome* libs (libgnomeui iirc) [18:44] I really didn't have much time figuring out [18:45] gar0t0, just http://paste.lisp.org/display/76641 [18:45] Camarade_Tux: you use Qosmic software ? [18:45] Camarade_Tux: hm, tks. [18:45] if I ^C it will stop and if I just Alt+F4 gpicview, it will render it with a higher quality [18:46] http://www.knifezone.ca/kabar/shortheavy.htm [18:46] whoa. The electricsheep demo makes me wish I still dropped acid... [18:46] RAWR ^^ [18:47] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acwh54.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:49] Are there any packages for VMWare for Slackware ? [18:51] Razec (n=Razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [18:51] MrDusty: using it right now. look on their site. [18:52] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] What a slackbuild that I can install via installpkg? Or the actual tar file that I will need to compile myself ? [18:53] rofl i mounted and old var loopback image [18:53] and thats why dbus was b0rked lol took me 2days to work that out [18:53] reboot fixed it rofl! [18:53] MrDusty: you need to read a little more. [18:55] MrDusty: extract the slackbuild. put the source in the created dir, run the slackbuild script. [18:55] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [18:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-135.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Camarade_Tux: I have a SlackBuild / package for electricsheep that does not require anything non-Slackware except for MPlayer, adds electricsheep to the screensaver list of KDE4 and xscreensaver too [18:56] Action: fluxnuk3r waves at alienBOB [18:56] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) left irc: "[BX] Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding." [18:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] bbeecher2 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] alienBOB, that could be interesting, I'll have a look at it on tomorrow, I really have too much alcohol in my blood right now [18:58] (I'm not drunk though) [18:58] all drunks say that [18:58] heh [18:58] Camarade_Tux, too much blood in your alcohol [18:58] :) [18:58] :) [19:00] people keep answering my mails so I keep answering theirs and they keep sending me other mails so I can't go into my bed [19:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] DeeeeP, there's really not much blood in my alcohol currently... [19:01] l; [19:01] k [19:01] xlf [19:01] sorry, was 1cm off [19:02] Action: alienBOB had a few too much as well... and accidentally deleted his local repository's /testing directory [19:02] Action: dive is drinking hobgoblin ale :-) [19:02] i think that Camarade_Tux head just fall on keyboard :x [19:02] do i need to relogin to activate new fonts? [19:02] alienBOB: just empty your recycle bin [19:02] DeeeeP, actually it would have happened without any alcohol, all the lights are off [19:02] gimp isn't displaying it and its in .fonts/c/chumpy.tff [19:03] alienBOB: owned LOL [19:03] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [19:03] acidchild: negative, you must however sacrafice kittens [19:03] well, I'd better sleep now [19:03] mmmmkay [19:03] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.143) joined ##slackware. [19:04] tomorrow will be writing a script for flam3 so I can efficiently get a new wallpaper every hour (or 10 minutes) [19:04] good night everybody [19:04] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:05] i even added it to my xorg.conf file [19:05] what the hell :| [19:05] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [19:06] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [19:07] well hostapd + ath5k seems to work fine with my b/g card but it barfs all over my a/b/g card [19:08] what does the barf smell like? [19:09] nullboy, what kernel? what version of hostapd? [19:09] because it does not work on my system [19:09] i made it work [19:09] it takes some work to get it going [19:09] with crazy patches? [19:09] Action: edman007|work wants it to work without patches [19:10] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) left irc: [19:10] you need hostapd git version, kernel 2.6.29-rc7 + 1 patch, iw, regdb, crda, M2crypto [19:10] nullboy: can you write a howto plz? [19:10] =] [19:11] it works with my AR2414 but not with my AR5XXX [19:11] or pastebin your 'history [19:11] i'm going to write it up soon [19:11] but i'm pretty sure alienBOB and rworkman are working on it too [19:11] my goal was just to be able to say "yes it *can* work" [19:12] do it before rworkman and alienbob [19:12] :P [19:12] hehe [19:13] nullboy: with all those patches required, plus it does not work on 50% of your cards? Does not sound like the kind of stability Slackware needs [19:14] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [19:14] alienBOB: i only needed 1 patch and that is using an rc kernel anyway. i'm not saying integrate it now...just saying that i got one card into AP mode using ath5k and hostapd, finally [19:15] madwifi + hostapd is a mess too, with the stuck beacon nonsense [19:15] YEs, that is cool, and I did not comment on your getting it working [19:15] More about " but i'm pretty sure alienBOB and rworkman are working on it too" [19:15] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) left irc: "later" [19:15] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] alienBOB: ah that, i said that because i got build for M2 from rworkman [19:16] i'm stoked that it at least worked on one card...it just gave me some hope for the 2.6.29 kernel ;) [19:17] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] nullboy, it will get better if development continues [19:19] Pig_Pen: yep, i plan to send in all my kernel OOPS and traces too [19:20] goodboy leroy :D [19:21] this was the patch i needed with 2.6.29-rc7 http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xslaby/sklad/ath5k_ap_mode/01-ath5k-ap.patch [19:27] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-135.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:30] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189-30-88-16.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:35] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl4-207-176.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[19:59] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [19:59] what would be a good cheap solution for storing video? i'm told they need around 2 terabytes and also backup space. [20:00] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.157.64) joined ##slackware. [20:00] harddrives? [20:00] :> [20:00] with RAID? [20:00] 4x 1TB [20:00] about 2k [20:01] nar... like 1k [20:02] ewl (n=ewl@pool-68-163-141-187.bos.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:05] not bad [20:06] 1TB harddisk at tigerdirect $146.99 [20:06] 146.99*4 [20:06] 587.96 [20:09] is raid the best option for backing up? [20:09] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:09] yep [20:09] NO. [20:09] Zosma: yes [20:10] Raid IS NOT backup. [20:10] mirroring [20:10] Jebus. [20:10] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Mirroring != Backup. [20:10] Zosma: stfu [20:10] he's on a budget [20:10] he can't have remote backup etc [20:10] It doesn't protect for accidental 'rm' [20:10] Jesus please don't tell me to shut up, it's a valid point. [20:10] Never mind then. [20:10] :) [20:11] rsync the drives then, forget you deleted the file and blast it off anyways 12hours later [20:12] i'm sure he can re-download his warez [20:13] yeah i think manual backup would be more suitable for them, just to backup original once. [20:14] people, please suggest me torrent program for slack [20:14] rtorrent, ktorrent? [20:14] ctorrent? [20:14] thanks [20:14] bittorrent? [20:14] :D [20:14] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:15] acidchild: but which one is better [20:15] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [20:15] personal preferance. [20:15] pupit: ktorrent is proby already installed [20:15] get the source for transmission and just build the commandline app, build with --disable-gtk --enable-cli [20:16] Pig_Pen: interesting =] [20:16] transmission has a rockin' commandline app [20:17] acidchild: ktorent is not installed [20:17] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:17] the build support DESTDIR so you can make a package, i think the name of the binary is transmissioncli [20:18] Pig_Pen: i'm trying that out. [20:18] :) [20:18] lol i'm missing libcurl gowd damn! [20:18] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [20:18] curl is included with slack [20:18] did you not install it? [20:18] i have it :/ [20:19] Pig_Pen: i did the install everything [20:19] checking for LIBCURL... configure: error: Package requirements (libcurl >= 7.16.3) were not met: [20:19] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:19] =P [20:19] curl 7.16.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8g zlib/1.2.3 libidn/1.5 [20:19] i'm .1 off! [20:19] GOD DARMN [20:19] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [20:19] dont swear god acidchild... [20:19] why? [20:19] too old! darn it, transmission wants to be too bleeding edge! [20:19] will he come and strike me down? [20:19] STRIKE ME DOWN! [20:20] acidchild: upgrade ffs [20:20] hmm, its building for me [20:20] thrice`: never! [20:20] =P [20:20] acidchild: he maybe wont strike u down, but its not cool to swear your father in heaven.. [20:20] Omg so he's my daddy! [20:20] i want $ [20:21] curl-7.19.2-x86_64_slamd64-1 [20:21] he owes me alot of child support [20:21] damn, you're way behind [20:21] worked for me LD [20:21] thrice`: you still use mirror1? [20:21] :P [20:21] so go on your knees and pray :) [20:21] if it's ever up :) [20:21] why isn't it up? [20:21] :/ [20:21] i didn't know it wasn't up [20:21] only kidding :) I think it is [20:21] 20:21:46 up 53 days, 22:22, 11 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [20:21] seems be stable for some time now. [20:22] Pig_Pen: u are happy with transmission? [20:22] yeah, i like it [20:22] I like transmission alot [20:22] i might upgrade to -current [20:22] maybe :P [20:23] so transmission shall be. [20:23] you're on, 12.1 ? [20:23] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] i just build version 1.51 made a slackware pkg and everything [20:23] Slackware 12.2.0 [20:23] 12.2 [20:23] thanks guys, i appreciate [20:23] acidchild: o'rly? your curl should be fine [20:23] my desktop is fscked. [20:23] =) [20:23] oh, heh [20:24] i need to do a reinstall [20:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] http://pastebin.com/m1e3fd860 <-- does anyone know what the issue here is? [20:27] Typo [20:27] ? [20:28] MASQUERADE not MASQERADE [20:28] even my firefox shows that its spelt wrong [20:28] LOL [20:28] heh [20:28] hah. [20:29] so uhm. lol. how YOU guys been?! [20:29] aw, we've missed you cpunches [20:29] :* [20:29] thanks bob [20:30] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:30] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] alienBOB: if im reading this right i can just connect another box at eth0 directly from nic to nic with an ethernet cable, rigt? no router or switch necessary for connectivity via wlan0? [20:31] Don't ask me - ask the channel [20:32] you're the network guru though :( [20:32] It's also 0230 AM here and I am not sober - all you will get from me is bad vibes [20:32] lol fair enough [20:33] And I fail to see what wlan0 has with a nic to nic connection [20:33] alienBOB: drinking anything nice? [20:33] no wonder your scripts are so complex! :) [20:33] thrice`: it's called "inspired" not "complex" [20:33] haha, fair enough :) [20:34] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] alienBOB: im connecting a wired box to another box's wifi connection through the NICs [20:35] misspwn (n=misspwn@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] bbiab [20:37] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:37] cpunches: just use [20:37] NAT [20:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left ##slackware. [20:38] double NAT lol [20:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:48] rofl [20:51] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) joined ##slackware. [20:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [20:55] what filesystem would you recommend for critical data? [20:56] jonsmith1982 : xfs/jfs/ext3/reiserfs [20:56] + backups [20:56] I would use ext3 [20:57] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:58] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl4-207-176.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] Pig_Pen: i have installed transmission. it seems to me, it is installed in the same folder where i have extracted the source. am i right? [21:06] did you run make install DESTDIR=/path/to/where/you/want/to/build/a/slackware/package ? [21:06] or did you just run make install [21:06] just run make install [21:06] type in whereis transmissioncli [21:06] its in cli folder [21:06] i have found it [21:07] thats all i need? [21:07] did you use ./configure --prefix=/usr ? if not it may be in /usr/local [21:07] no no [21:08] in /usr/local? [21:08] tntslack (n=will@adsl33-25.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:08] just simple/noob/blind/./configure/make/install [21:08] isn't there a slackbuild for transmission at sbo? [21:09] there are some files in /usr/local/share/transmission.. [21:10] not sure, i usually roll my own packages, i do look at pat's slackbuild and slackbuilds.orgs to get an idea of what needs to be done if i run in to a problem [21:10] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:10] Pig_Pen: i can run transmission, but i dont want it on my desktop... [21:11] can i put it somewhere else? [21:12] sbo not loading... [21:12] yes [21:12] Pig_Pen: sorry for bugging u, i have just discovered some files of transmission in /usr/local/bin [21:12] pupit: use screen [21:12] :) [21:12] screen? [21:12] Pig_Pen: seems to me it is all ok :) [21:12] there should be transmission, transmissioncli, and another one [21:12] thanks anyway [21:12] yes [21:13] they are all there [21:13] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:13] :) [21:13] pupit: http://www.sevenl.net/blog/?p=259 [21:13] ;) [21:13] good, you keep watching what you do and learn from your mistakes and eventully you will be a slackware ninja guru [21:13] moha_ (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-171-184.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Pig_Pen: a truer thing has never been spoken [21:13] Pig_Pen: God's will [21:14] :) [21:14] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/transmission/ [21:14] transmission works great [21:15] ive been using rtorrent for the longest time now [21:15] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] rtorrent is good [21:15] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:16] rtorrent is cli, right? [21:16] yep [21:16] I use rtorrent in cli and qbittorrent in gui [21:16] I probably will be using it soon, need a non-gui torrent client so I can download on the box that's got a wired ethernet connection [21:16] Action: nooper votes for rtorrent [21:16] qbittorrent has a very nice search feature [21:17] rotrrent [21:17] rtorrent [21:17] bluehattux (n=12312331@189-47-250-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:17] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [21:17] i have transmission when i want either a cli or just a basic bare bones gui, but if i want all the bells & whistles i use ktorrent [21:17] acidchild: im still a new guy for slack even if i am using it for a year or more in time hoops.. slackbuilds are a new thing for me but thank you! :) [21:18] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:18] i may have to look in to qbittorrent & rtorrent, gotta keep up with the jones' :D [21:18] pupit: screen is a extreamly valuable tool [21:19] learn it [21:19] will do! [21:19] :) [21:20] Action: Urchlay *hearts* screen [21:20] screen is my window manager [21:20] Once you learn screen, you will be a true Jedi Master. [21:20] screen, irssi and rtorrent are basically all i do on slack [21:21] how limited. ;) [21:21] you download a bunch of torrents and then don't watch/listen/whatever? [21:21] framebuffer [21:21] Urchlay: he probably uses windows me for that. ;) [21:21] ugh [21:21] Urchlay: the viewing and listening is done on xp via a samba share [21:21] nsisim (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] yuck [21:22] or burn to disk and play in dvd player [21:22] dont see why i would want to watch videos on a PII [21:23] don't see why you'd not run slack on your fast box :) [21:23] Urchlay: games [21:23] \^^/ [21:23] dual boot? [21:23] now thats yuck [21:23] yeah, actually it is [21:25] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.105.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:25] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] I did the dual-boot thing before. [21:25] nooper: how about virtual machines for some less demanding games? have u tried some? [21:26] pupit: nope. xp+slack works so well that i never looked for such alternatvies [21:28] nille__ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:28] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] bluehattux (n=12312331@189-47-250-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-79-41.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:31] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.105.106) joined ##slackware. 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[21:45] tr0nd (n=mathias@h93n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] I finally figured out what ALL women really want. [21:48] it is security [21:48] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:48] it [21:48] every time i walk up to one in a bar she yells security :D [21:48] s no secret Pig_Pen . they want money. lots of it. [21:50] in all seriousness i think you are right, women want lots of money [21:51] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-1" [21:53] i want lots of money too ... [21:55] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:55] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.198.132) joined ##slackware. [21:56] uhmm, who doesn't? :) [21:58] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.198.132) left irc: Client Quit [21:59] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [22:00] lol. so apparently #apple dislikes when you ask about installing osx on non-apple hardware. [22:00] Question, sirs. What exactly would I need to do to get the titles of my terminals to change? I'm guessing it's some build option? [22:00] titles of your terminals? [22:01] e.g. on ubuntu, if I type run some command, the title of the terminal changes. [22:01] NaCl: check the man page for your terminal, for most it is '-title xxxx' [22:01] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:02] steve jobs has his fanboy drones babysitting that #apple channel i bet, they get a free black turtleneck sweater for christmas if they are good [22:02] heeh [22:02] twolf: Other distros appear to do it dynamically [22:03] NaCl: I am sure there is such a way, I don't know what it is though [22:03] NaCl: what terminal are you using? [22:03] NaCl: are we .. ^^^ yeah that... [22:03] danc3: konsole [22:04] huh? what changes in konsole? [22:04] cpunches: it is not legal to do that.... :P [22:04] look in the "preferences" or whatever... in XFCE terminal, that option is right there in plain sight [22:04] NaCl: ^^^ [22:04] antler: i didn't SAY I wanted to do that....necessarily.... ;) [22:04] user26902 (n=user9237@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] BP{k}: I just noticed it when I sshed into a friend's box, my terminal's name just randomly changed and wouldn't change back [22:04] user26902 (n=user9237@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:04] NaCl: tried "settings" -> "configure console" --> "general tab" -->"set tab title to match window title"? [22:05] cpunches: ;) i know. i was just sayin..... [22:05] s/con/kon/ [22:05] antler: who would do such a thing... [22:05] BP{k}: this is KDE 4's konsole [22:06] NaCl: you've been told how to do it. Now get it done. [22:06] sheesh [22:06] NaCl: well you didn't say. Helps if you give the full story :P [22:07] personally I always loved Terminal's ability to completly shut it off (unlike konsole who will allow some programs to set it (such as mc)) [22:07] Action: antler puts some NaCl on BP{k} 's wounds... :P [22:08] ohh the burn! ;) [22:08] Action: NaCl is not responsible for abuse of NaCl [22:08] builds character. [22:08] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] last time I tried to build BP{k}'s character I got a segfault. [22:10] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. 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[22:17] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:18] rolfo_ (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] hi all. I have a question about ntfs support in Slackware - is it something that's "stock" or the same on linux or does Slackware use something special? [22:21] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [22:21] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:21] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [22:21] and by special, I mean different from arch/fedora/, etc? [22:21] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [22:21] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [22:22] what exactly are you talking about? lets talk in normal terms and not idioms [22:22] Baskin-Robbins is introducing a new ice cream flavor in honor of the new President...."Barocky Road"; It's half vanilla, half chocolate and surrounded by nuts.... [22:22] slackware uses ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs and fuse [22:22] okay. is the ntfs driver the same in slackware as in arch and fedora? [22:23] you can use ntfs-3g or the plain ntfs driver too [22:23] rolfo_: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfsdriveX /mnt/ntfs [22:23] i didn't think about ntfsprogs. [22:23] Pig_Pen: and you dont have to pay any tax on it. [22:24] Nick change: cpunches -> dartmouth [22:24] nullboy: thanks. I have no problem mounting, it's unexpected behavior recoving a file that has me confused [22:24] /c [22:24] so can you tell us what this unexpected behavior is then? [22:24] ... [22:25] maybe someone here can help you [22:26] okay. give me a sec to gather my thoughts. I don't want to use idioms. [22:26] ;) [22:26] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189-30-88-16.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] :) [22:26] :P [22:26] bah ff 3.0.7 [22:27] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] time for this old man to get some sleep, laters & have a good weekend everybody :) [22:27] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [22:27] I am using a slackware box to recover a set of files from some ntfs disks (various sizes). [22:28] One of the disks is giving me fits. I have two computers avialable to use for recovery. One is slackware 12.2 and the other is a fresh arch install (laptop). [22:28] rolfo_: ok got it [22:29] do you have enough space anywhere to store a whole disk image of the drives you are working with? [22:29] there is a particular file is /system32 that I can see on the arch box, but not on the slackware box [22:29] I am analyzing dd images. [22:29] perfect [22:29] rolfo_: when you mounted the images under slackware did you mount them with ntfs-3g or ntfs ? [22:30] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] well, I mounted them (read only) to look around a little, but the file i'm interested in is deleted. [22:31] and I can see it (using fls) on the arch box, but not the slackware box [22:31] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] rolfo_: ok, and now was the disk problem a hardware failure or was it a software/fs corruption without hardware failure? [22:32] I do litigation recovery. This is not a disk gone bad, but a disk being reviewed for discovery. [22:33] I think the file I found in system32 is malware. [22:33] awesome job you have there [22:33] i'm still learning the ropes, but it's good. [22:34] so, i have the file to look at closer, but i'm wondering why i can't see it on the slackware box when looking at the same image and using the same command [22:34] it's been killing me. [22:35] rolfo_: well you do seem to have a situation there. i'd try using ntfs / ntfs-3g and see if you get different results [22:35] i thought it might be something with the ntfs driver [22:35] redtricycle (n=lionel@ppp-67-124-90-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] that's what i think it is too [22:35] Why are there no slackbuilds for Synce? [22:35] on slackbuild.org? [22:36] redtricycle: make one then [22:36] rolfo_: any weird ass characters in the filename? [22:36] Just wondering [22:36] maybe I was searching wrong, nullboy [22:36] antler no. but that's not a bad idea: character setz? [22:36] i mean sets [22:36] one sec [22:37] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:37] nullboy: on the arch box i just checked and there is not even a ntfs driver loaded at all. I can load it and unload it, but the fls command works either way. [22:38] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [22:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:38] rolfo_: i'm not familiar with fls [22:39] i use 3g for my ntfs stuff [22:39] rolfo_: i don't know how to mount ntfs partitions on the fly with this option: locale=en_US.utf8 what i usually do is edit the fstab with that language option in there. [22:39] fls is a file listing tool from sleuthkit [22:39] -o locale=en_US.utf8 [22:39] :P [22:40] antler: i'm not mounting the filesystem, though. [22:40] huh? [22:40] rolfo_: since you have images to work with i'd try mounting with ntfs-3g under slackware [22:40] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-182-128.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] pass it the ro option though [22:40] i must've missed something you said earlier [22:41] nullboy: like I said earlier, I can mount the images on arch and slackware just fine (read only), but the file I want to see is deleted. fls shows it on arch, but not on slackware. fls works on unmounted images to show lists of deleted and regular files. [22:42] that's why i was wondering at possible differences b/w arch and slackware for ntfs. [22:42] but then i saw that arch does not even have ntfs loaded when I'm using fls. so i'm not sure it matters. [22:43] rolfo_: on the arch box, does the file in question start with "-/r" in the fls output? [22:43] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-48-56.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:44] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-54-45.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] specktater (n=speck@76.197.3.54) joined ##slackware. [22:44] yes. not sure what that means. [22:45] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@189-30-88-16.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Good. That means that the file is "orphan". There are no pointers to it in the ntfs b tree, but the metadata still exists in the MFT. [22:46] dsd (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:46] Nick change: dsd -> Guest91530 [22:46] So I'll bet 50 bucks the slackware box has sleuthkit version 2.x and arch box has version 3.x. right? [22:46] SpacePlod ftw [22:47] yeas. its 2.52. Arch is 3.01 [22:48] that's just awsome. I was dying here. [22:48] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:48] support for ntfs orphans was added to TSK in 3.x [22:48] thanks! [22:49] np. [22:49] Guest91530 (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware. [22:49] specktater (n=speck@76.197.3.54) left irc: "Quit" [22:50] okay. the arch box was updated 3 weeks ago. we keep the analysis boxes off the net. [22:50] Action: nille_ applauds SpacePlod [22:50] that explains it. [22:50] Action: SpacePlod will be here all night [22:50] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:50] ...but not really. [22:50] hahah [22:51] SpacePlod: where'nt you the one with the ghetto raid? [22:52] yeah. I thought that was you. You mentioned discovery back then as well. Nice to see you stick with the linux analysis. Most use Encase. [22:53] I showed our lab chief the split mounting thing after he swore it was impossible. [22:53] "As the drives spins, On a cold and gray Chicago mornin', A poor little raid is born In the ghetto" ;) [22:54] (backup voice) "in the ghetto..." [22:54] hehehe :) [22:54] Raphael_S (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:54] I always think of Cartman now when I hear that. [22:56] okay, so i'm back to work. thanks for pulling that thorn out of my foot. 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[23:58] w1ll: there are slackbuilds floating around [23:58] w1ll: it's not trivial [23:58] thumbs, I was wondering about that. I looked at it a little bit and thought I'd ask here before I attempted it. [23:59] thumbs: i'd say a good 10 in the last hour or so [23:59] antler: ah, that's nothing [23:59] where are ytou? [23:59] w1ll: the sbo maintainers can link you up, in any case. [23:59] antler: Montreal [23:59] ah, gotcha [23:59] ;) [00:00] --- Sun Mar 8 2009