[00:00] shift insert works here on my laptop. :) [00:00] both-touchpad-buttons-at-the-same-tiem [00:01] shift insert is even what the menu says to use. [00:02] shift insert here too. [00:02] yea [00:02] i connected usb mouse [00:02] im in virtualbox with kwort distro [00:02] acidtripper: ever trip some acid? [00:02] compiling some pkg [00:02] s [00:02] yes [00:02] you? twolf? [00:02] acidtripper: yep [00:03] bike? [00:03] joined leary's mile high club [00:03] Or anyone deal with being threatened to be fired unless they were given certain privileges and they dealt with it? [00:03] :P [00:03] bullshits! [00:03] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [00:03] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:04] someone have any lighttpd start|restart|stop script there? [00:04] I did indeed ride my bike while tripping balls on lsd-25 [00:04] becouse im making server packages, the idea was to make a xampp package [00:04] should be hard or? [00:04] ja [00:04] twolf really tried lsd? [00:05] acidtripper: more times than is sane [00:05] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [00:05] jaja here too [00:05] but at this moments trips are bad or not real lsd [00:07] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:07] acidtripper: that is because they busted pikard, he had been pretty much suppling the world with lsd since the '60s, he was doing in in Wamego, KS, 20 miles from where I grew up, we tripped a lot growing up [00:07] but im a sane person [00:08] pikard? [00:08] google it [00:08] who is he? [00:08] i think that what (in argentina) consume come from holland, mexico and brasil [00:08] favelas ja [00:08] he was the man who had been making lsd for the world since the 60's, was buste [00:08] bike 100 years were the better i have ever tried [00:08] busted [00:09] I traveled to Beueno Aires, and some other parts of Argentina, I enjoyed visiting there very much [00:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] yes it's a cool place... is not what you watch on tv [00:10] :D [00:10] where are you from? [00:10] good parties here [00:10] Kansas [00:10] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [00:10] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.59) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:10] im from Patagonia, is a kinda state here [00:10] I met a girl from Argentina who was an exchange student here, she invited me there [00:11] cool [00:11] i met some exchange students from usa, germany autralia,etc [00:11] she was wild [00:11] ja, che loved to fck? [00:11] indeed [00:11] she* [00:11] wild in what sense? [00:11] all senses really, no fear [00:12] ja [00:12] do you knwo something about makepkg? [00:12] i want to make a package for xampp [00:12] I traveled to the patagonia area [00:13] beatiful [00:13] its a very beatiful place [00:13] beautiful [00:13] hehe, yep [00:13] makepkg? [00:14] acidtripper: what about it?, I have only used it with slackpackages [00:14] acidtripper: makepkg is for a directory that's already setup in the proper format. [00:15] do i must uncompress xampp in that directory, and do makepkg from there [00:15] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:15] acidtripper: http://www.linuxpackages.net/howto.php?page=package&title=Package+Howto <-- you may want to review this to help [00:15] jspider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:15] spider1010 (n=spider10@98.179.13.1) left irc: "Leaving" [00:16] www.kwort.org [00:16] acidtripper: basically, you want to make a slackbuild to build xampp, then "install" it into a blank directory where you to the package layout, then you do makepkg on the directory [00:16] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.60.103.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:16] a simple and cool k.i.s.s ditro [00:17] thats what im telling [00:17] but not slackbuild, its not necessary [00:17] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-128-92.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:18] i think :S [00:18] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [00:18] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:19] a slackbuild makes it easy to work with the upstream source by automating the tasks and options of building xamp as well as creating a working directory and making a package [00:19] including things like stripping the binaries [00:19] the slackbuild template from slackbuilds.org makes it easy to make a slackbuild [00:25] for whoever is daring ;), i'm uploading my kde-4.3.2 @x86_64 builds to http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.2/ , enjoy [00:25] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [00:25] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Client Quit [00:25] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] wow, they are moving right along with kde [00:26] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:27] keep an eye on it, the interwebs is being slow tonight, it'll be done shortly, and it'll be on rsync as well at cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde4-packages/4.3.2/ [00:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.60.103.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] vbatts: size of the packages roughly? [00:30] 307M x86_64/ [00:30] BP{k}: ^^ [00:30] heh [00:31] vbatts: merci :) will download probably tonight :) [00:31] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.60.103) joined ##slackware. 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[00:36] KDE4* [00:36] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:36] sahko: I have kde isntalled, b I'm using xfce, b I do use a few kde programs [00:36] Reticenti: sorry I got called away yesterday, I couldn't help you [00:36] twolf: it's fine [00:37] nevermind i didnt read exactly what you said [00:37] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:37] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:38] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [00:39] so, what can I do to unstick my computer? [00:39] wd40? [00:39] so just spray wd40 all over the screen? [00:39] :) [00:39] or all over the mobo? [00:39] :P [00:39] better than the blonde with the whiteout [00:40] lol [00:40] would you like to see ps aux? [00:41] should I start killing my tty's? [00:41] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] can you move to an alternate tty? [00:41] how do I do that? [00:41] as in ALT+F5 [00:42] or alt+f2 etc [00:42] let me try [00:42] and back to here with alt+f7 [00:42] hrm.. wait that' wrong [00:42] i got the same behaviour when KDE crashed with the nvidia driver. luckily i was able to shutdown [00:42] try ctrl-alt-f2 [00:42] then back to here with ctl-alt-f7 [00:42] If you're in X that is [00:43] canyouscore (n=canyousc@71.227.32.90) joined ##slackware. [00:43] ctrl-alt-f* doesnt do anything [00:43] do you have another computer that you can ssh from? [00:43] If your in X, F2 won't take you anywhere, only one that will work is Ctrl + Alt + F6 [00:43] I could hard shutdown, but it's undesirable [00:43] alisonken1noc: I'm sshing into it right now [00:43] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] what about ctrl+alt+del? [00:43] nope [00:44] ctl-alt-backspace [00:44] ctrl-alt-backspc doesnt do anything either [00:44] power button [00:44] halt [00:44] how can I check to see if the nvidia driver crashed? [00:45] Reticenti: Can you Ctrl + Alt + F1 and see anything? [00:45] try using nv? otherwise its pretty obvious if it did [00:45] fire|bird: nope [00:45] hard reboot [00:46] supergear 21:41:58 < Reticenti> I could hard shutdown, but it's undesirable [00:46] sahko: can I load up nv or reload nvidia and see if that works? [00:46] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:47] you could kill X i suppose [00:47] superGear: except X is already killed [00:47] tho that may force you to reboot [00:47] Reticenti: have you tried restarting X (yes it sounds silly but occasionally that will work) [00:47] Reticenti: you have an ssh session into the locked-up computer? [00:47] alisonken1noc: correct [00:47] can you run 'telinit 3'? [00:47] BP{k}: yes, I've tried ctrl-alt-backspc [00:48] alisonken1noc: I ran it, let me check if it did anything [00:48] Reticenti: what I meant is ssh-ing into the computer nad either give a telinit-4 or a startx again [00:49] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [00:49] BP{k}: telinit-4 does not exist, and startx says theres already an X server running [00:50] telinit 4 [00:50] no "-" [00:50] woo [00:50] telinit 4 worked [00:50] Reticenti: "telinit3" to kill [k|x]dm and get console session only [00:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Reticenti: "telinit4" to restart [k|x]dm session to get graphical login [00:50] ah [00:50] ok [00:51] telinit 4 worked [00:51] so [00:51] thanks =D [00:52] aigon (n=root@92.82.87.153) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Reticenti: personally .. I would now issue a telinit 3 .. clean up any left around tempfiles and processes and then telinit 4 again, but that's me. [00:52] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] actually, telinit 4 gave me the login screen, but the only thing I can do is move the mouse [00:53] what ln -sf do? [00:53] im watching a pkgbuild [00:53] acidtripper: man ln [00:54] read and be enlightened. ;) [00:54] acidtripper: "man ln" and look for option "s" (soft link) and "f" (force) [00:54] BP{k}, alisonken1noc telinit 4 gave me a loging screen that was frozen, except the mouse, and telinit 3 takes away the loging gui, but leaves the mouse [00:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:55] s/loging/login [00:55] d00d [00:55] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Reticenti: and see if you get a console [00:55] fire|bird: you there ? [00:56] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:57] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:57] -force [00:57] and soft link thats ok [00:57] im makepkg lampp-1.7.2 [00:59] ok, upload done [01:00] alisonken1noc: ctrl-alt-f6 gave me the cli login and let me log in [01:00] thanks [01:00] hello guys [01:00] what did that command do, alisonken1noc ? [01:01] telinit? [01:01] ctrl-alt-f6 [01:02] does that change to a new tty? [01:02] Reticenti: are virtual consoles. look at /etc/inittab to see about runlevels and functionality [01:02] mm [01:02] k [01:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:03] in runlevels 1-2-3-5 you have consoles 1-6, in runlevel 4, you have console 6 and X on console 7 [01:03] digitalpsyko (n=digitalp@unaffiliated/digitalpsyko) joined ##slackware. [01:03] what's the use of various consoles? [01:04] you can cut the number down if you see no use [01:04] if you have no graphics, it allows you to have multiple terminal sessions so you can, say, edit a config file from console 1 while viewing the documentation on the config file in console 2 [01:05] so it's like a more hardcore version of screen [01:05] in a graphical environment, slackware defaults console 6 on in case you need to do something because your mouse get's stuck or something [01:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:05] correct [01:05] antiwire1 (n=antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:05] Nick change: antiwire1 -> antiwire [01:05] mmk [01:05] well, i gtg for a bit [01:05] thanks for everything [01:05] dang it [01:05] anyone remember the kde 4.2 hack them made run faster ? [01:06] I typed a few lines and I don't think they sent [01:06] that made it* [01:06] antiwire: nope they didn't [01:07] I spent today crawling on my belly and dragging cable under a building built in 1915 [01:07] antiwire: do they make you wear a collar shirt ? [01:08] yes [01:08] kquitapp plasma [01:08] antiwire: that must suck :/ [01:08] plasma-graphicssystem raster [01:08] sluckxz: thanks! :D [01:08] thats the only one i tried before going to xfce [01:08] deco: I changed to jeans before I went in [01:09] and then change back [01:09] antiwire: oh ok much better :P [01:09] lol [01:09] sluckxz: :D [01:09] sluckxz: I'm actually switching back :P [01:09] to kde [01:10] deco deco [01:10] jeev jeev [01:10] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] what's up [01:10] deco: do you use more than firefox and terminal ? [01:10] init[1]: yeah konsole, okular etc... [01:10] radeon 7000 pci so little hope anyway for me [01:10] jeev: still reading the php and mysql book good stuff [01:10] eww [01:10] deco: ah,xfce suits you better ! [01:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:11] init[1]: no been using it for a a couple of weeks, tried kde again and just love it all over again :P [01:11] jeev: don't like books ? [01:11] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:12] nope [01:12] jeev: what are you up to ? [01:12] deco: aah,just said so! this my golden quote "Xfce is more than enough,for any slacker" --init[1] ;) [01:12] nothing, in pain from the gym [01:12] about to play some red alert 3 [01:13] jeev: nice i liked that game been years since i played it... played the first one [01:13] with the russians [01:13] init[1]: hehe [01:13] hehe it's cool but i wish the maps could be like 20 times bigger [01:13] heh [01:13] ok bbiab [01:13] jeev: k [01:13] init[1]: konsoel > * :P [01:13] konsole* [01:14] i like xfce with konqueror very much. i just hate mounting crap all the time when i change shares so often, plus fish:// is handy. [01:14] xfce terminal ! is kinda good too , [01:15] i like xterm while in irc,small fonts === more content [01:15] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] init[1]: *kinda* ;-) [01:17] google now has a bar code as logo -_- [01:18] lol [01:20] init[1]: http://omploader.org/vMmh4Ng [01:20] :) [01:20] deco: wasnt it you with the cat stories? [01:21] sluckxz: yeah , what about it ? [01:22] i was gonna talk about it earlier but i couldnt be bothered or remember who it was. [01:22] deco: nice ;) [01:22] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] deco: btw mess.jpg is that you? [01:22] init[1]: thanks :P [01:22] init[1]: no that's messi , a soccer player [01:23] Action: init[1] not a soccer fan [01:23] pffft [01:23] sluckxz: what were you going to say ? :P [01:24] something rude but light hearted, super witty. [01:24] Action: init[1] goes for a coffie [01:24] lol [01:24] sluckxz: lol [01:25] Action: deco is getting famous for his cat stories [01:25] vbatts: thanks. installing as we speak. :) [01:26] vbatts: oh btw thanks for making the 32bit kde 4.3 packages :_ [01:26] :)* [01:27] frullet (n=hooch@124.170.1.133) joined ##slackware. [01:27] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-19.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:27] BP{k}: 4.3.2 64bit packages? :P [01:27] fire|bird: bird! i was going to ask for the speed hack for kde but someone beat you to it :P [01:27] fire|bird: yes. [01:28] giuppy (n=giuppy@host252-38-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [01:28] deco: yeah, I was afk for a while. [01:28] fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMmh4Ng [01:28] giuppy (n=giuppy@host252-38-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:28] BP{k}: nice, I'll be installing as well, but I'm going to do a clean install first to rid the system of left behind gsb gnome cruft. :P [01:29] deco: nice [01:29] _400theCat (n=as@cm33.sigma51.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [01:29] hey trying to compile exo i receive uri::url error [01:29] fire|bird: thanks :) [01:29] _400theCat: so you like cats eh ? [01:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-19.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] night everyone [01:30] night fire|bird [01:31] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:32] alienBOB: what are you thinking now ? [01:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] perl modules are [01:33] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] wooooh I'm flying with the hack! [01:34] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:34] haha [01:35] <_400theCat> deco: especially the imaginary ones [01:36] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Leaving" [01:39] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [01:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:43] cpan URI::URL solved it [01:46] thumbs: What's your issue? :-) [01:46] mel__ (i=1000@117.255.72.18) joined ##slackware. [01:49] How to see mounted partitions? [01:50] aigon, cat /etc/mtab [01:51] Hey frullet, how's it going? [01:51] fire|bird, doing well, just knee deep in study for my finals, yourself? [01:51] thanks [01:52] frullet: great, thanks. Just gearing up for a clean install (after gsb left junk here there and everywhere) and have vbatts kde 4.3.2 packages installing on the laptop. [01:55] fire|bird, unleashing gsb on your system is like letting a bull loose in a china shop [01:55] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn64.91-127-209.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [01:56] fire|bird: [01:56] frullet: yeah, thankfully the china isn't broken, but it's all in a disarray. :P [01:56] i have a problem when compiling exo libs from xfce, i do ./configure --enable-hal --enable-python --prefix=/usr [01:57] ron1n (i=1000@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] but at the end configure output both options weren't activated [01:57] hey guys, I can't seem to get webkit to build from SBo [01:58] I get a libtool error [01:58] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [01:59] mm [01:59] I wish I could give you guys more info, but thats really all it says [01:59] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [01:59] when I do ctrl-alt-f7, it says it's starting X11, but it's not doing anything, how can I kill it? [02:00] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-31.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:00] Reticenti: which runlevel are you in? and type "runlevel" [02:00] after logging in, that is [02:01] alisonken1noc: 4 3 [02:01] libtool: link: 'WebCore/rendering/libWebCore_la-RenderTextFragment.lo' is not a valid libtool object [02:01] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [02:01] sorry, I had to type that out -_- but yeah, thats the webkit error I get when trying to build from SBo [02:02] Reticenti: do you get a console when you go to f5? [02:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-4-183.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [02:06] ron1n: what slackware version and arch? [02:06] XGizzmo: 13 x8 [02:06] alisonken1noc: yeah, i get a login sheel [02:06] shell* [02:06] ok - then you're in runlevel 3 [02:06] XGizzmo: Slackware 13.0 x86 [02:06] and alisonken1noc I'm now on the actual computer, I'm not ssh'd in [02:07] 32bit or 64? [02:07] XGizzmo: 32bit [02:07] http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2568 [02:07] Reticenti: "ps ax | grep X" and see if it's running [02:07] alisonken1noc: nope, not running [02:08] Reticenti: then you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see why it died [02:08] alisonken1noc: but ctrl-alt-f7 shows this: Starting up X11 session manager... [02:08] it will also tell you if there was an issue with the nvidia driver [02:08] Reticenti: "starting up ..." is not the same as seeing a gui :) [02:09] alisonken1noc: I never said there was a gui [02:09] but you're continuing to talk about "starting up ..." in text on the console. obviously, it didn't start [02:09] ah [02:10] alisonken1noc: would you like to see what xorg.0.log has? it doesnt say anything about nvidia [02:10] Reticenti: ok - pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log [02:10] ron1n: I am checking it, it will take a few min [02:11] alisonken1noc: I only have terminal access atm :\ [02:11] XGizzmo: thanks dude [02:11] jhw (n=jhw@p548F797A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [02:11] Reticenti: no other computer you can ftp the files to in order to pastebin? [02:12] alisonken1noc: actually, i think I can lynx and apstebin :P [02:12] how do i see what url I'm at in lynx? [02:13] type 'h' and use the help to find that option [02:14] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.35.198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:15] Reticenti: "=" [02:15] alisonken1noc: xorg.0.log is pastebin.com/m65c0b49b [02:15] slackytude (n=icke@79.216.164.205) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Reticenti: line 2 is interesting [02:16] yeah [02:16] aigon (n=root@92.82.87.153) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] mel__ (i=1000@117.255.72.18) left ##slackware. [02:17] can you reboot and start fresh? [02:17] yeah, i could [02:17] and that'll probably fix it [02:17] and does it default to runlevel 3? [02:17] yeah [02:17] k [02:18] I've had this problem before, just trying to track down what's causing it [02:19] weird [02:19] i just did ctrl-alt-f1, and did startx, and X started up [02:20] did you startx as root or a user? [02:20] as my user [02:21] i logged in as and startx and it worked [02:21] ok - try editing /etc/inittab and set default to 4, then reboot and see how it looks [02:21] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-68-168-209.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:21] but i like booting to init3 [02:21] i think everything is back to normal [02:22] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-28.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] ok - your option. as always, slackware allows you to setup the way you want to work with it [02:22] i'm currently looking through xorg.0.log to see if anythings' weird [02:22] is there some channel for compiling problems, building etc? [02:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-4-183.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:23] urbank (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [02:23] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:23] acidtripper: you can see if there's a channel for the programm you're compiling [02:24] ron1n: I am not sure, it seems to be building fine here [02:24] alisonken1noc: I can't find anything wrong with the current corg log [02:24] xorg* [02:24] another gremlin :) [02:24] yup [02:24] lol [02:24] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [02:25] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [02:25] i'll just need to remember to telinit 4 and ctrl-alt-f# to fix it when/if it happens again [02:25] also, 3 day uptime was saved [02:25] lol [02:26] good [02:26] and ssh if needed [02:26] morning [02:26] yeah [02:26] thank the gosd for ssh [02:26] slackytude: almost morning [02:26] gods* [02:26] fsm* [02:26] yo slackytude [02:27] y0 y0 [02:27] almost morning [02:27] funky google picture [02:27] some barcode [02:28] ienh (n=ienh@88.164.161.31) joined ##slackware. [02:28] slackytude: yeah, I wonder what the meaning behind this one is? [02:28] :P [02:28] birthday of barcode, apparentlx [02:28] read some of the history of the barcode [02:28] Ah, Invention of the barcode [02:28] man, Im tired [02:29] I hope nobody calls today [02:29] I just want to sit here and chat a bit [02:29] just take the phone off the hook. [02:29] morning :D [02:29] wish I could [02:29] slackytude: what do you work with? [02:29] morning Kowalczyk [02:29] Kowalczyk: my hands, usually. sometimes I need my head too [02:29] ^^^^ [02:30] yesterday I had this annoying customer from serbia or slowaky or whatever [02:30] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-51-123.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:31] only one gal who speaks german and I never manage to get through to her when I call them [02:31] we have a lot of annoying customers here as well. I work at a school. as a IT-apprentice(if I can use that word) :D [02:31] a lot of stupid students and especially teachers :D [02:31] heh [02:31] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:32] got another guy in here who does tech wizardry for a school [02:32] you should form a club [02:32] or a support group [02:32] lol [02:32] morning TwinReverb [02:32] morning [02:32] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-106-222.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] *linuxexpert* seems to test memo on me :-/ [02:33] Action: init[1] i should have stopped him in the first place [02:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:35] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-28.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:38] yes [02:39] acidtripper: what yes ? [02:39] oh [02:39] AMD will do ARM chips now [02:39] fancy that [02:40] ARM ftw! [02:40] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/10/arm-takes-aim-at-intel-sends-cortex-a9-to-globalfoundries.ars [02:43] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-7-56.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:44] The-Croupier (i=c36168c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-yewogpgqnluilrdb) joined ##slackware. [02:45] .ars ? [02:46] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-121-245-38.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Did you find anything XGizzmo? I was AFK [02:47] The-Croupier (i=c36168c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-yewogpgqnluilrdb) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [02:48] ron1n: 0123 XGizzmo> ron1n: I am not sure, it seems to be building fine here [02:48] fire|bird: thanks hmmm [02:48] I'm not sure what it could be then. Oh well. [02:49] I'll experiment with it later [02:49] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-47-112.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:49] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-47-112.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:49] ron1n (i=1000@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:50] Nick change: Guest50019 -> reallove [02:55] TwinReverb: yeah [02:55] TwinReverb: probably just renamed html [02:55] sounds like something ButtBook (the evil twin of FaceBook) would use: .ars [02:55] arse [02:56] advanced reproducible scripted encoding [02:56] thank you, thank you, i'll be here all week [02:56] :) [02:57] why are my jokes cheesy? because i find life to be plain like a triscuit [02:57] too early for that [02:57] gotta add cheese [02:57] punsters anonymous :) [02:57] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-106-222.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] morning alisonken1noc [02:57] Kowalczyk: yo [02:57] we've already got a website and jackets, and are planning our own linux distro. where have you been? 8-) [02:57] yo :D [02:57] alisonken1noc, "NOC" as in "network operations center"? [02:57] TwinReverb: bingo [02:58] ah [02:58] let's me know where I am [02:58] or at least which computer I'm using [02:58] so far slackware linux has survived being the OS on the public computer at the christian coffee house [02:58] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-122-129.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:58] TwinReverb: which one? [02:58] i'm writing a "how i did it" for them [02:59] the Son Light Inn (at Kunsan Air Base, South Korea; Air Force installation) [02:59] ah [02:59] too bad the routers still blow [02:59] stinking store-bought consumer grade stuff [02:59] wireless? [02:59] yep [02:59] TwinReverb: you are from korea? [02:59] no, i'm USAF military member stationed in south korea [02:59] aha. ok :) [03:00] how about getting some geode boards and using owrt/xwrt? [03:00] good food?:) [03:00] however, if there were no united states, i'd be from (south) korea and proud of it [03:00] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:00] TwinReverb: nice job [03:00] alisonken1noc, because they want a box, not a computer, to do it. we may upgrade/replace routers soon [03:00] USAF is a nice job but i'm receiving a lower EPR than everyone else because they don't like how closely i follow standards and guidance [03:01] TwinReverb: the only difference is the casing. also, owrt/xwrt can be shoehorned into a lot of consumer routers [03:01] alisonken1noc, you and i know that, but i doubt that this solution will work for them. maybe with smoothwall, but you're still back to square 1. i have to think "very easy to administer" [03:01] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.183) left irc: "Leaving" [03:02] as it is, i would not be surprised if someone after i leave is like "let's put vista on the son light inn computer because there's no iTunes for Linux" or whatever stupid reason they would concoct [03:02] having worked with owrt/xwrt within the last year, administration has gotten easier, plus you can setup a default install reasonably easily [03:02] but at least i have my reputation: vista got USB hacked, linux didn't [03:02] so linux looks good to the chapel staff because it's painless so far [03:02] :) [03:03] as is, i don't have enough time here left for them to get the stuff for that project [03:03] i wish i did but i don't [03:03] there is that [03:03] so i can give them a link before i go to the place they should use to buy the stuff they need [03:03] i'm thinking some company that is linux friendly but makes stuff that's (again) a box [03:04] they may choose for example to put antivirus protection on it (which would be something to buy from Symantec or someone similar) [03:04] cisco/d-link used to have a linux router [03:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:05] as much as i love linux, i know these guys [03:05] if i was here longer, it would work, but alas.... [03:05] cisco/linksys wrt-54g,lots of custom firmware available [03:06] i had to teach these guys how to put a dang admin password on their linux router [03:06] wow [03:06] much less cycling / resetting the linksys router (wrt54g) eliminates the password so we're again back to square 1 [03:07] i want something that is like "put it in the desert for 20 years" stable [03:07] vista is more like a vista of LA with the smog [03:07] er, on their router, not linux [03:07] i'm having to basically write a slackbook but for military minds [03:07] yuh [03:07] TwinReverb: working from slackbook.org? [03:07] and someone keeps stealing the webcam so i'm going to put one over there but secure it via steel cable [03:08] alisonken1noc, i wish. Alan_Hicks is far too busy (he said) to accept volunteers [03:08] like 'when you want to mount the missile you type this command'? [03:09] I was thinking more along the lines of using slackbook.org to start what you're doing [03:09] dchmelik: - fire [03:09] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [03:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] dchmelik, almost [03:11] alisonken1noc, i was thinking of copying it outright and modifying it to suit me but i decided against it. I'll probably just print the thing and tell them what choices they need to select. [03:11] i had to add some custom stuff to make this thing user-proof, like security modifications, custom patches, etc [03:12] almost typed etfc (et-the-@#$ing-cetera) [03:12] :) [03:12] what kind of talk is that? [03:13] talk that is not normal for me [03:13] etc= et cetera (latin) [03:13] and you claim to be a military man :) [03:13] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-inulhqaqzyhlbote) joined ##slackware. [03:13] hahaha 8-D [03:13] that's ok - I'm retired and it's not normal for me either [03:14] at least not now [03:14] Navy [03:14] yeah you told me before 8-) [03:14] :) [03:14] greetings [03:15] hiya TwinReverb alisonken1noc [03:15] yo [03:15] is there an easy way to get a hold of a VM that is fully cut-and-paste-able for doing a page-by-page slackware installation documentation with screenshots? [03:15] [03:16] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-49.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:16] hi [03:16] hey The-Croupier alisonken1noc TwinReverb [03:17] yo [03:17] well,i'm out night guys,ya'll be well. [03:17] [03:17] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [03:17] gonzalo_ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [03:17] actually, and would be more proper :) [03:17] Action: mrselfpwn waves. [03:18] it is a hand waving proof [03:18] TwinReverb: there's always a wiseguy. [03:18] well i am trying to make this like HTML code fwiw [03:19] greetings mrselfpwn [03:19] hey fire|bird [03:19] mrselfpwn: how are you? [03:19] i mean i appreciate ANYONE saying "hi" to me but i was also trying to imply that we can move beyond "hi" [03:19] not to bad [03:19] hey i get an error when compiling libexo [03:19] :) [03:19] libexo-hal is not found when i run make [03:19] gonzalo_, why do you need libexo? [03:19] (i thought libexo already came with xfce) [03:19] couse im compiling xfce [03:20] oh you're updating xfce ok [03:20] yes, im making the packages [03:20] probably wants libexo-hal compiled first (unless you already did) [03:21] mm but i think that libexo-hal come with libexo [03:21] http://www.tx-us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.6.1/src/ [03:21] take a look, there isnt any libexo hal [03:21] hiya mrselfpwn [03:21] hey The-Croupier [03:22] oh yeah The-Croupier [03:22] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-uvwolqyujazlbghi) joined ##slackware. [03:22] forgot to close out the greetings. [03:22] what is 'croupier'? [03:22] guys, i asked this before ...but i did get signed in to lots of forums...now its getting too much of my time checking them all one by one... is there a way/widget/app anything to monitor such changes [03:23] dchmelik: is someone that works in a casino..deals cards,...roulette...etc [03:23] someone with problems with libexohal? [03:23] i need help :( [03:23] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> The-Gambler [03:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croupier [03:23] The-Gambler: nice...;) [03:24] :) [03:24] gonzalo_, hmm do you want libexohal ? is libexo already compiled and installed? [03:24] The-Gambler: you do get selfpwned by being a gambler :p most of the time ;) [03:24] hi [03:24] The-Croupier: Yes, but when I win, I win BIG. [03:24] The-Croupier, The-Gambler yeah that's why the house always wins. those very nice facilities, smartly dressed employees, and sometimes free alcohol don't come from trees 8-) [03:24] The-Gambler: you know you never win right? [03:25] no [03:25] it is not compiled [03:25] gonzalo_, try compiling libexo first and installing that first [03:25] TwinReverb: ;) yep [03:25] gonzalo_: then you know what to do first [03:25] I prefer poker. [03:25] if not, maybe libexohal is an add-on that you can disable using --disable-libexo-hal or something [03:25] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:25] nooper (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] but when compiling libexo is the error [03:25] Poker and Blackjack you actually have a chance at. [03:25] n1hub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] The-Gambler: who said you dont loose on those two? :p [03:26] libexo hal is a part of libexo [03:26] My granddad was blacklisted from the casinos in Vegas for counting cards. [03:27] the error is when i do make libexo [03:27] gonzalo_, wow, did you bring that up in #xfce ? [03:27] sounds like a bad configure script [03:27] yes [03:27] but... :S [03:28] you might be able to do ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-hal or something similar [03:28] The-Gambler: sounds nice..but that was your grandad...not you :p [03:28] i tried --disable-hal [03:28] and nothing happened [03:28] continue [03:28] The-Gambler: my grandad was in the army and in some kind of war..that doesnt make me a warrior :p [03:28] grep hal configure [03:28] What's you point? I like the thrill of the game. [03:29] aigon (n=root@92.82.87.153) joined ##slackware. [03:30] there might be a "disable hal" or some option [03:30] I don't gamble for money. Haven't yet anyway. [03:30] but why we'd need to disable hal is beyond me [03:30] Not at a casino. [03:30] 'Harder than conquering the world is conquering yourself.' (paraphrased from the Saman Suttam) [03:30] mmm im trying again [03:30] gonzalo_, have you looked at patrick's slackbuild? [03:31] have you looked at slackbuilds.org ? [03:31] i'll take a look [03:31] im untared again the file and im doing all as root [03:31] why are you compiling xfce? it's 4.6.1 and slackware 13 comes with 4.6.1 [03:32] yeah, i was about to ask. [03:32] its for www.kwort.org [03:32] which is realeasing a new version and i want xfce to be included [03:32] couse tje developer changed wm to openbox with tint2 [03:33] hmm [03:33] kwort is a slackware based distro [03:33] jaa it compiled [03:33] Action: The-Gambler checks it out. [03:34] take a look [03:35] Kernel looks pretty dated. [03:36] im uploading an image [03:36] What's in the new one? [03:36] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:36] Nick change: n1hub -> nlhub [03:36] http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2092/kwort1.png [03:37] Action: TwinReverb was thinking of a "remix" of slackware on dvd to include various things but will have to do that later [03:38] Action: TwinReverb wishes alienBOB would show him how to build slackware too ... [03:38] TwinReverb: What do you plan to include in it? [03:39] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:39] i would plan on just getting rid of what most laptop users won't need but including most (if not all) of what is on rworkman's site [03:39] Where can I find to network configuration file on Arch? [03:39] that and a couple extras for the installer [03:39] TwinReverb: not that hard - I've done it [03:39] aigon, /etc/rc.d [03:39] TwinReverb: like OO? [03:39] well i would like to see some extras for the installer but oh well [03:39] The-Gambler, yeah that's one of the things rworkman has on his site, and xfce-goodies [03:40] rc.conf [03:40] TwinReverb: are you sure? [03:40] archlinux? [03:40] aigon, no, this is slackware linux [03:40] so i'm not sure [03:40] i have arch as you see in the image [03:40] is on rc.conf [03:40] but if you're here because it's based on slackware, then i'd say it's where slackware puts it: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [03:40] then go with what gonzalo_ said [03:41] there you can set network dhcp wlan blabla [03:41] i thought that menu icon was a replica of the star trek logo lol [03:41] aigon: install netcfg. but you should be asking in #archlinux [03:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] plamo Mitsuhoro Kojima has announced the release of Plamo Linux 4.7, a Slackware-inspired Japanese Linux distribution designed for intermediate and advanced users. [03:42] thanks guys! [03:42] TwinReverb: you should give that to your Japanese friends. [03:42] The-Gambler, if i have any [03:43] I thought you were stationed there. [03:43] south korea [03:43] Oh yes. :) [03:43] no problem [03:44] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-121-245-38.revip2.asianet.co.th) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:45] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-49.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:46] Is clonezilla the best clone distro? I'm looking for lightweight. [03:46] define "clone" [03:47] Action: init[1] wonders why some things are called [*zilla] [03:47] lol [03:47] dinosaur reference [03:47] Slackzilla [03:47] bugzilla [03:47] mozilla [03:47] stfuzilla [03:47] http://www.clonezilla.org/ features [03:47] godzilla [03:49] The-Gambler: can't think of anything more lightweight than udpcast, but don't know if it fits your use-case: http://udpcast.linux.lu/ [03:50] any experienced Thunderbird user around? i am using it to access my email account via IMAP , but i have to click on the mail folders to show new email. any idea why is that? [03:50] i have it set to access my account on startup [03:50] aigon (n=root@92.82.87.153) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:50] sahko: I've found that happens when there's more than one mail client accessing your imap account at the same time\ [03:51] blandnamezilla [03:51] sahko: set the intervel [03:51] like every 1 minute [03:51] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] its can be seen in the accounts settings [03:52] init[1]: i have it set to 20 minutes. i dont wanna hammer the server for no reason [03:52] alisonken1noc: no, it s not [03:52] pprkut: I'm putting together and all-in-one sort of bootable usb stick with all sorts of things like parted magic and such. Udpcast looks pretty cool and usefull, i'll probably add it. [03:52] go ahead then :) [03:53] sahko: does it give notification when mail arrives ? [03:54] init[1]: i just told you i have to access the folders for new email to show up and if i have tbird in the foreground, i dont think it sends notifications. does it? [03:54] Okay, thanks for your permission. [03:54] seems kinda pointeless to do so [03:54] sahko: no! [03:55] no what? [03:55] hmm - at least the default thunderbird install I have shows new email unless I have thunderbird running both at home and at work on the same email imap account [03:55] then I have to click on the folder to see new mail [03:56] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.48.144) joined ##slackware. [03:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:56] right now i have, bt4, hawkpe, and parted magic, parted magic. hawkpe comes with a ton of tools for fixing hardware checking and has bartpe with a bunch of anti-virus utilities for windows. [03:56] ill just leave it running for a while. but when i enter the password to access my account, and switch to another app, i dont get neither notifications nor unread emai flags if i dont access the folder with new mail [03:57] also have chntpw and kon-boot on it as well. [03:57] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) joined ##slackware. [03:58] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) left ##slackware. [03:58] ok - well, I have 2 monitors with at least 6 apps running and thunderbird shows new mail about every 5 minutes [03:58] also when starting nntp shows as unread all the articles in groups and when i access them i get the actual unread count [03:58] so I'm not sure what you are experience [03:59] also when starting nntp shows as unread all the articles in groups i have downloaded headers for and when i access them i get the actual unread count* [03:59] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) joined ##slackware. [03:59] sahko: does it do it with all emails or just one? [03:59] The-Gambler: you mean accounts? i only have one account added atm [03:59] try it with a different account as well? [04:00] gmail doesnt do real imap so i dont think i wont be adding it [04:00] so you'll be adding it? great then! [04:00] but i could test [04:00] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:00] heh:) [04:00] ;D [04:00] sahko: are you able to put TB to bg ? [04:01] as in minimise it? [04:01] or just backround it? [04:01] like you said it fails to give you notification [04:01] system tray ? [04:01] my problem isnt really notifications, i think. it doesnt show unread emails at all [04:02] tbird cant be minimized to tray, without an addon [04:02] or so it seems. i obviously just started using it [04:02] ah - tray, not taskbar [04:02] sahko: no, it can't minimize to tray without an extension. [04:03] sahko: tried claws-mail? [04:03] fire|bird:'s suggestion to me was all-tray [04:03] sahko: tray all-tray [04:03] You need an addon for minimise to tray on Windows, I'd imagine it'd be the same on other platforms. It makes sense, it's one less thing to worry about when going cross-platform or even cross-DE on the same platform. [04:03] try^ [04:03] init[1]: yeah, that works well too. [04:03] fire|bird: no, im not willing to build it. i already build & use mutt [04:03] sahko: [view]->[folders]-[all] <- check that [04:04] sahko: rworkman has packages for it. [04:04] init[1]: that was checked [04:05] fire|bird: i also dont install packages from rw. i run current and at sooner or later they will break [04:05] s/at/ [04:05] Action: The-Gambler uses alpine because he doesn't understand how to set up mutt. [04:05] The-Gambler: vi /usr/doc/mutt-1.5.20/manual.txt [04:06] errm slackware has the stable mutt [04:06] 1.4.something [04:07] sahko: thanks i'll have a look. [04:07] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:08] and the weird thing is, a.o.l.s. only shows unread msgs, all other NNTP groups show as unread, unless i access them, all the articles i have headers for. and they are all configured exactly the same [04:09] well,what was the utility used to export rsa-pub to remote client;well copying will do,just wana do it clean [04:09] sahko: does mutts support rss? [04:09] The-Gambler: no [04:09] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.77.222) joined ##slackware. [04:09] ssh-copy-id ! [04:09] there you are [04:10] Well, time to get going. Take care everyone. [04:10] see ya init[1] [04:10] fire|bird: cya fire|bird [04:10] see ya The-Gambler [04:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [04:11] fire|bird: he is gambling [04:11] xinyou (n=knlve@221.193.77.222) left irc: "[BX] Become a BitchX Certified Systems Engineer today! Apply within!" [04:11] oops fail [04:12] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.77.222) joined ##slackware. [04:13] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:14] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:15] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [04:16] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) left irc: Client Quit [04:16] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:18] init[1]: default slackware mutt have pop3 support, do you know? [04:18] knlve (n=knlve@221.193.77.222) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final © 1996-2000 Colten Edwards" [04:20] The-Gambler: yes,it does,well what i did was to make use of fetchmail [04:20] The-Gambler: it doesnt have smtp though [04:20] The-Gambler: you have to make use of msmtp, a tiny guy :) [04:21] hmm [04:21] or sendmail [04:21] The-Gambler: mutt does what its suppose to do,! better ask #mutt , mutt is kinda old school, [04:22] sahko: have you ever played with sendmail? [04:23] init[1]: yes, i'd like to learn about it though there are many things i'd like to learn about. Is there an advantage to using mutt as opposed to alpine for just checking email? [04:23] init[1]: no, and i dont intend to do so now [04:23] paul424 (i=1000@k164-44.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:23] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:23] i got a notification from tbird [04:23] sahko: \o/ [04:24] but i still wonder what happens on startup [04:24] The-Croupier: I was going to learn it because Slack comes with it and not alpine, though the manual is very extensive. [04:24] init[1]: ^ [04:24] The-Gambler: they all are good for what they are [04:25] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) left ##slackware. [04:25] mutt is mostly used as ncurses mail client, [04:25] alpine is ncurses as well. [04:25] yes,it is, most of all matter of choice [04:25] i see. [04:25] The-Gambler: some like what should i use ubuntu or xubuntu ? [04:26] kde or xfce ? [04:26] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] can i safely remove mutt then or is it the backend for system mail? [04:26] you can if you dont use it [04:26] nothing depends on it [04:27] yea^ [04:27] Zordrak: no objections from me! [04:27] ah okay [04:27] spook: huh? [04:27] The-Gambler: you can cat / grep it from /var/mail/root [04:27] Zordrak: re: xmbc [04:28] heh [04:28] guys..sorry been looking online all this time..but still no luck..any forum changes monitor app/widget/script anything? im new to this part of technology... could one point to anything? [04:28] Action: Zordrak needs a postgrep [04:29] The-Gambler: www.google.com :D [04:29] fail^ [04:29] The-Croupier: ^ [04:29] init[1]: ;) did already [04:30] i just asked if you knew of any you have actually used [04:31] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] gonzalo_ (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] init[1]: Yeah, i was sure he didn't think to google something he was looking for. [04:32] _400theCat (n=as@cm33.sigma51.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:33] The-Gambler: lol ;) [04:33] google never crossed my mind :( [04:34] The-Croupier: i'm sorry! what exactly are you searching for ? [04:34] init[1]: i am registered in various forums..but they seem they are becoming more and more as time passes..i really need to keep track of the changes in most of them... [04:34] need something to tell me if someone posted anything in any of the forums im registered [04:35] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Success [04:35] The-Croupier: feeds , [04:35] i got: Forum Submitter 1.2.2 ...but it doesnt look to tell me what is changed.. [04:35] The-Croupier: better one would be google reader ! [04:36] init[1]: google reader?! ill have a look at it thank you.. [04:36] The-Croupier: and sligg too ;) [04:36] The-Croupier: o_O [04:36] init[1]: thank you ;) [04:36] yw ;) [04:36] ill have a look at all of those first .. [04:36] thanks [04:37] The-Croupier: i would suggest , you start off with GRder [04:37] The-Croupier: http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlereader/tour.html [04:37] init[1]: ok.. np, i really appreciate it. [04:40] init[1]: i see a small glitch in GRder... [04:40] i do not have only one email..:( have several for different forums [04:40] hmm :( [04:41] that seems to require more research than i thought..:(... [04:41] The-Croupier: what is stopping you from using forum feeds ? (rss/atom.. [04:41] Action: The-Croupier goes back to searching... [04:41] init[1]: nothing...i dont know how i can do this whatsoever im just reading now..whatever tells me the changes its fine by me [04:42] Join us now and share the software; / You'll be free, hackers, you'll be free. / ... [04:43] dchmelik: ?! [04:43] Hoarders may get piles of money, / That is true, hackers, that is true. / But they cannot help their neighbors; / That's not good, hackers, that's not good. [04:44] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:44] init[1]: i dont know how i can do it.. im reading about how forums work..and how i can keep track of them... :( [04:44] dchmelik: are you the next slacksphere? [04:44] When we have enough free software / At our call, hackers, at our call, / We'll throw out those dirty licenses / Ever more, hackers, ever more. [04:44] it is the Free Software song [04:44] Action: init[1] pokes slackboy [04:45] dchmelik: where did you get that? [04:45] gnu.org [04:45] http://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.html [04:45] The-Croupier: [1] There are feeds look at the top right side of addressbar [2] copy the feed link [3] add it to google reader [04:48] what slack packages is ps in ?:) the command ps ?:) [04:48] init[1]: i see..but i do not have the same email account to some of them..? mutt,thunderbird ..anything of the kind might help with the feeds? you think? [04:48] init[1]: i got confused now..:( [04:50] aha. procps [04:51] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:51] The-Croupier: in thunderbird, there are ways to login to the forums [04:51] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:51] while subscribing freeds [04:51] feeds [04:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:52] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:52] that means The-Croupier you have forums where contents are visible only be members? [04:53] s/be/by/ [04:53] it is weird they call those little long usb things 'dongles'--i wonder what that is supposed to mean [04:53] dongles are the name of something that hangs off a computer and originally was used for verifying that you had a legal version of software [04:54] Action: init[1] alisonken1noc hides wikipedia :P [04:54] dongles have become to mean something that just hangs off a computer (like a usb stick) [04:54] Action: alisonken1noc goes by what I learned when they first came out :) [04:54] Action: init[1] walks away .. [04:54] init[1]: no the contents from what i can tell is visible by anyone...but at some of them i do write stuff... i dont remember with which email i was logged in..takes me a while to sort that part out... [04:55] Action: init[1] comes back [04:55] The-Croupier: your problem is with mapping email with forums ? [04:55] Action: dchmelik ZZZZ [04:56] init[1]: that and keeping track of the changes in that forum (which i might forget what email i used for that forum) [04:57] The-Croupier: keep odf (openoffice) for forum / email mapping , [04:57] The-Croupier: for the updates , feeds would do [04:58] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:58] The-Croupier: i mean openoffice-calc [04:58] Action: init[1] brb [04:59] init[1]: right..if i got this right.. a combination of oo and calc [05:00] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [05:01] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [05:04] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [05:05] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427644.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:09] The-Croupier: yes the openoffice-calc smthing like m$ excel and for feed google reader [05:09] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:11] init[1]: yep..i will give that idea..a try..is better than what im doing now..that is for sure... [05:11] thanks [05:11] hiya Agiofws [05:12] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.100) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:12] i hope i find a way to configure thunderbird or something... with the feeds, and the emails...looks like impossible at this stage...but that was a very helpful approach.. [05:14] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [05:16] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host230-161-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:17] wtf theres ad-block for thunderbird too? why do i get the feeling the thunderbird addons webpage shows firefox addons too? [05:21] frullet (n=hooch@124.170.1.133) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:23] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.87.153) joined ##slackware. [05:23] yes Mutt is pretty cool now that I have it set up. [05:23] sahko: tb renders html [05:23] Nick change: adeodatus -> aigon [05:24] using fetchmail to get my pop3 emails [05:25] sahko: yes, there is (adblock for tb) [05:25] The-Gambler: ;) [05:25] init[1]: do i have to run fetchmail myself or will mutt? [05:26] im mostly frustrated with what tbird is by default. maybe im too accustomed to mutt [05:26] The-Gambler: you can set up a key binding to run fetchmail [05:26] The-Gambler: i'm not a avid mutt user,better ask #mutt [05:27] im sure it can be better if you add a bunch of addons but im not an addon person in general. i only use 4-5 in firefox [05:27] giuppy (n=giuppy@host252-38-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] init[1]: cool thanks [05:28] i'm liking it better than alpine [05:29] once you understand it it's actually easier. :) [05:29] its far more customizable [05:30] indeed [05:30] still talking about mutt right? [05:30] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [05:31] most flexible softwares have steep learning curve [05:31] The-Croupier: yes [05:31] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:31] init[1]: i was just unaware i needed external programs to get the mail. [05:32] for pop3 anyway [05:32] The-Gambler: i said right this is how unix work [05:32] The-Gambler: what do you mean external programs? [05:32] fortune: "panic: kernal segmentation violation. core dumped (only kidding)" [05:32] alisonken1noc: yeah i've had that one :) [05:32] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:32] i needed fetchmail [05:33] maybe send a patch to fix the spelling :) [05:33] lol [05:33] which is installed which is why i like it. i try to use what is installed on slackware by default. that is my goal. [05:33] kernAl [05:34] The-Gambler: nice [05:35] i'm wanting to become _more_ familar with emacs. [05:35] vim imo^ [05:36] yes vim is nice though a lot of programs use emacs commands also [05:37] lots of programs use vi command too [05:37] commands* [05:37] yes, what i meant by also [05:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:37] all programs that use emacs commands can use vi commands too :) [05:38] even emacs! [05:38] at the names says [05:38] exten... [05:38] so you can do that too ;) [05:38] what i hate about emacs is i have to learn lisp :-/ [05:39] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:39] so why vim init[1] over emacs. not to bring up an old argument just wondering the difference in overall functionality. [05:39] init[1]: i see [05:39] the find manpage is giving me a headache.. does anyone know off the top of their head the right way to search JUST for files that the owner doesnt have execute on? like -perm u-x [05:39] The-Gambler: xfce or kde ? samething ! there are actually buch of flame wars goin on over vim vs emacs [05:39] i cant get the right syntax.. theres so manty [05:40] init[1]: well obviously xfce is better than kde. [05:40] :) [05:40] ^^ [05:40] Action: init[1] brb [05:41] I haven't seen OldFogey in a while. does he still drop in? [05:42] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [05:42] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.102) joined ##slackware. [05:42] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [05:43] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left irc: "Leaving" [05:43] hey guys all of a sudden my sound isn't working and i get output like this from 'play' "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:866:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" fix? [05:43] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-128-92.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:45] Knightingale: tried simply rebooting I take it? [05:45] Knightingale: you have something else playing? [05:46] i don't really wanna reboot cause i've got heaps of shit open. [05:46] yeah, seems like it. some things steal the sound device. [05:46] mako-sama, no but from forums it might be firefox causing it [05:46] i ve seen that but never on Slackware. only other distros [05:46] Firefox would steal audio from one of my apps in the past. [05:47] Knightingale: do: fuser /dev/snd/* [05:47] but it was a complete audio mixing software. not simple "play" [05:48] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [05:48] can i paste it here its 3 lines [05:48] Knightingale: check out the numbers [05:48] Knightingale: that's the PID of the application hogging your soundcard :p [05:49] then you can see what it is with those numbers. [05:49] hrrm. points to azureus [05:49] in most cases it's one number repeated for all three [05:50] sounds likely [05:50] kill it [05:50] Knightingale: may i suggest Transmission? [05:50] Knightingale: is this the first this happens to you? first time with slackware? fresh install? [05:52] i believe so [05:52] The-Gambler Transmission doesn't look as advanced [05:52] by advanced you mean steals your sound device? [05:53] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Knightingale: I'm joking. What I mean is. What do you need it to do beside download torrents? [05:53] anyway, it could be that azureus is trying to use OSS instead of alsa. i believe that will occupy the sound device even if you use alsa's softmix [05:55] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:56] Noryungi (i=[tdhg7OK@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [05:56] Highly configurable for per torrents [05:58] Noryungi (i=[tdhg7OK@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:00] oahong (n=user@220.112.127.189) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:02] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Use what you like though i'm just saying there are other options out there that do that without all the extra "extra" features that you may not use. [06:02] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [06:02] it has been a while since I checked BT clients out there [06:03] I still use the old btdownload*.py [06:05] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:05] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [06:06] aigon (n=adeodatu@92.82.87.153) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] Knightingale: qbittorrent http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/ seems like something you might like. Claims to be lightweight feature rich and even has the ability to search torrent sites from within the gui. [06:09] gui? nah [06:10] and it's in slackbuilds.org which is also good. [06:10] mako-sama: not you. [06:10] :b [06:12] what is the best way/program to create a gui...and add bash scripts to the buttons you create with the gui-program [06:12] come on! you don't want a torrent client that's rss capable?! ;P [06:12] Action: The-Croupier wonders if there is any [06:13] The-Gambler: I want a torrent client that's RSS capable. Have yet to find one worth a damn though :/ [06:13] http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/ ? [06:13] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:13] LSD`: you tried it? [06:13] Reaver2 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [06:13] The-Gambler: The best setup I found was to have rtorrent set up to download torrents automatically and use a Mac app called tvshows (which is basically defunct now, unfortunately) to grab the torrents and drop them in the folder rottrent was monitoring [06:13] I have not so can't vouch. [06:15] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] The-Gambler: xdialog is a quick way to create bash-based gui. [06:15] not very advanced, but you can do alot with it [06:15] The-Croupier: ^ [06:16] thanks guys.. ;) not looking for something advanced...just text and a couple of buttons.. thinking of putting a gui to most of my scripts so far.. thanks guys [06:18] ~_~ [06:19] The-Croupier: xdialog works nicely for that. 'dialog' is installed by default on slackware. it's what slackware's setup/installer scripts use [06:20] awsome.. thanks [06:20] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:20] xdialog works the same way. it can almost do everything dialog does, but in GTK GUI ;) [06:24] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [06:25] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [06:26] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [06:29] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:30] paul424 (i=1000@k164-44.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [06:31] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-128-92.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:31] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) joined ##slackware. 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[06:49] ananke: u can find those package on slacky.eu! but the issue is that it doesn't work corectly! so what i wanna ask is that, is there any problem with amarok 2.2? or i have problem on my labtop! ( i tried on 2 labtops same error! ) [06:49] ohh no, the 'labtop' strikes again [06:50] oo [06:50] do u wanna say that i should give up? [06:50] no [06:51] what is the problem exactly? [06:51] sirslacker: lol you never stated the error [06:51] amarok: error while loading shared libraries: libtag-extras.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [06:52] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) got lost in the net-split. [06:52] ur right The-Gambler [06:53] sirslacker: amarok requires libtag. install that too [06:53] ooops [06:55] >.< [06:56] man, i see these posts about slackware's biggest weakness is it doesn't have a proper "package management system". When will they understand we don't want what in their minds is a "proper package management system"? [06:57] The-Gambler: Never. That's just how it is. [06:57] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [06:57] http://mostlycli.blogspot.com/2009/06/slackware-worth-it.html Michael's post just above Nemesis at the bottom. [06:57] << Nemesis. [06:57] I like slack's packages as they are.. [06:58] me too! [07:00] That blog just doesnt deserve attention [07:00] the more comments it gets, the wider it is seen. [07:00] It's FUD from a moron and doesnt deserve to be seen [07:01] last year, someone proposed a nice way to work with dependencies.. nothing fancy like dpkg [07:01] probably right. most people want go to the bottom to read the latest anyway. [07:01] s/want/won't [07:01] *wont :P [07:01] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [07:02] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Zordrak: on the other hand people can make whatever opinion they want by reading that. [07:06] the guy is used to debian's way. packages are easier to find there [07:06] slackware is not for everyone [07:06] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Like i said in my post, it's the quirks later that you face with these other distros at least for me that are a major pita and take more time to fix than compiling one program and most small programs don't take long to compile anyway. [07:07] sirslacker (n=aligp@91.99.17.105) left ##slackware. [07:08] like i tryed to do something on debian and it's like no you can't do that. i'm like wtf i'm root. wtf is going on here? [07:08] well, it was kubuntu, but whatever [07:09] exactly... sometimes I just want to pull my hair when working on ubuntu/redhat [07:09] although I barely have any [07:09] yeah, mostly friends and family heheh. [07:13] The-Gambler: you are nemessis? [07:14] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:14] The-Croupier: yes [07:14] The-Gambler: what was the guys proposition about the pkg management..i wasnt here..me thinks [07:15] oh, just the guy above my post michael. saying it lacks a "proper package management system" [07:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:16] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-uvwolqyujazlbghi) left irc: "Bye" [07:17] [14:01] last year, someone proposed a nice way to work with dependencies.. nothing fancy like dpkg [07:17] mako-sama: do you remember anything of the things said? [07:17] yeah.. it was discussed in this channel [07:18] The-Gambler: i like the finish with the learning bit ;) [07:19] The-Croupier: it 'works' with dependencies. it doesn't manage them. iirc, it'd simply suggest that you need package X and Y to get Z to work correctly [07:19] i see... [07:19] Action: The-Croupier understand [07:19] s [07:20] it was long time ago so I don't remember the whole thing. I remember that one of the big names here liked the idea and took the discussion to PM to talk more with the guy [07:20] The-Croupier: heheh thanks :) [07:20] straterra or rworkman.. or maybe someone else [07:20] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-12-191.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:24] actually, back when i used slapt-get i have a bunch of repos in my slaptgetrc file and i never had to compile. everything i needed i found in one of the repos. [07:25] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-10-044.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:25] there are huge amounts in slacky.eu [07:25] and there us mirrors [07:25] their* [07:26] I no longer use slap-get, but it's a viable solution still for those who want it. [07:26] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-207-32.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:26] I even found a repo with haskell binaries. [07:27] i dont use any of those... i like to get to know what the hell im installing and where its going.. [07:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-206-251.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:27] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [07:27] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-1-133.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:27] hiya Kaapa long time no see [07:27] Action: The-Croupier has to go to a meeting in 5mins [07:27] The-Croupier: yes, that's why i started to use slackbuilds.org or make my own slackbuild. [07:27] I'm always here [07:27] in silent mode :) [07:27] damn [07:27] Action: The-Croupier hides [07:28] The-Croupier: you can't hide. [07:28] yeah i know The-Gamblers always find me...ive changed cities, countries like 3times by now.. and i still find your kind :p [07:28] haha [07:29] Action: The-Croupier going to set up the teleconference in this meeting..see you guys soon [07:29] laata [07:31] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4190-1.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [07:32] hrad (i=4e889d4d@gateway/web/freenode/x-vculptubnwiydqxy) joined ##slackware. [07:32] biki (n=biki@117.197.240.171) joined ##slackware. [07:33] which package provides libXss? [07:34] what the hell libXss ?or automate the xss process [07:34] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:34] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Aw man.. awesome.. possibly epic: http://www.dilbert.com/2009-10-06/ [07:35] Intel[R]VT-x_: I think it is related to Xorg [07:35] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.169.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:35] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.169.39) joined ##slackware. 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[07:44] give it a try and find out. you can always remove it later if not :) [07:44] yeah, that's what she said. [07:45] wth, I am The-Gambler after all. ;) [07:46] sorry all there xss means nt cross site scripting , it means X11 Screen Saver [07:49] Arch it doesn't seen my internet card, but when installed arch from internet it has. What should I do? [07:51] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qwztwnrcqugsbyqi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:51] aigon: install Slackware [07:51] arch is a bitch whit inetsetup [07:51] I already have slack. [07:52] you hace to edit rc somthing [07:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uspjpbqewbzssoon) joined ##slackware. [07:53] rc.conf [07:54] aigon: you might change your nick.. but the colouring script will still catch you :) [07:55] lol [07:55] troll ? [07:55] What do mean with "colouring script"? [07:55] mako-sama, hmm? [07:56] the script that marks you out as a Turing Test failure. 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[08:07] you can do su to become their user [08:07] yes but when i do that it says no display [08:07] but that doesn't control they're terminal [08:07] export DISPLAY=":0" [08:08] no worky [08:08] will have anything you run pop up on their screen. so firefox will work for one. :) [08:08] No.. that requires they xhost + the local host [08:08] nope, no go [08:09] ive yet to discover how to enable access to an Xsession from anywhere except inside that session [08:09] export DISPLAY="localhost:0"? [08:09] ok xhost + worked after that [08:09] How does it allow me to open apps on my brother's computer then? [08:09] localhost:0.0 would be most accurate IIRC.. but access will still be denied [08:13] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-tjhoiessfexmggog) joined ##slackware. [08:14] hi [08:14] hey [08:15] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. 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[08:28] yeah i could do that but that's evil [08:29] naw ... it's funny [08:29] mingdao: speaker-test -f 1000 -t sine [08:29] now that's evil ;) [08:29] heh [08:30] yeah that's a rather evil trick to play [08:30] range is 50-5000 hz; man speaker-test [08:31] 2000 is most annoyint [08:31] annotying [08:31] /facepalm [08:31] Nick change: The-Gambler -> mrselfpwn [08:32] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-12-086.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:33] mrselfpwn: annoying [08:34] mingdao: you think? [08:34] Google does ;) [08:34] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [08:35] google translate is great for hiding urls. [08:35] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:43] http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/funny-pictures-cats-watch-tv.jpg [08:44] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-1-133.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:44] 43-ish is worst on my speakers at home.. but then i might have found the walls' resonant frequengy [08:44] awesome [08:44] you can annoy room mates and neighbors without annoying yourself [08:44] Zordrak: yea, you found the harmonic resonance of your room :) [08:45] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:46] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-143.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:46] that and its a 7.1 Creative S750 (?) system :) [08:46] yeah, 43 is pretty annoying too with my subwoofer. [08:47] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F797A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:48] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-tjhoiessfexmggog) left irc: "Bye" [08:49] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. 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I can never seem to scale an image without introducing artifacts and noise [09:09] I guess IM is the better alt [09:09] s/an image/a compressed image (jpg/gif) [09:10] theblackbox: i dont mean anything by it.. but it may be a lack of understanding.. ive found GIMP to have extremely complx options with not necessarily the best deyaults [09:10] *defaults [09:12] Zordrak, yes understood, I'm only familiar with the most basic stuff at the moment [09:12] still.. go with IM [09:13] its teh roxor [09:13] Zordrak, compare GIMP with Paint.NET [09:13] NthDegree: no [09:14] Erm... Paint.NET is a Linux app too :P [09:14] lol [09:14] meh [09:14] Defaults-wise it's worse than the GIMP ;) [09:15] ce-marcin (n=ce-marci@ribisel.ofai.at) got netsplit. [09:15] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bpzzkknlzzpqqsgi) got netsplit. [09:15] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-207-32.dsl.telepac.pt) got netsplit. [09:15] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) got netsplit. 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[09:34] Zordrak: Yes..we'd like for you to be killed [09:35] lol [09:35] Action: mrselfpwn find's the sandwhich labeled straterra and eats it. [09:36] mrselfpwn: thats the best way to ensure you grow up nice and strong :P2 [09:36] minus the 2 [09:36] :P [09:36] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-128-92.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Action: hitest wonders if his contractors will show up today. for the ongoing bathroom reno. [09:39] mrselfpwn, "finds" [09:40] mornin all. [09:40] morning [09:40] TwinReverb: thanks. My term paper is due this week. Get back to work on it. [09:40] i work for kimchi only [09:40] no kimchi, no workie [09:41] mmm, kimchi [09:41] Action: hitest works for beer [09:41] dnsmasq pisses me off [09:41] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "Leaving" [09:41] that's some good stuff. rough on the stomache though. 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[09:52] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:56] mingdao (n=mingdao@218.63.63.162) joined ##slackware. [09:57] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:58] any suggestions as to why vi (elvis) wont open large files? i have a txt file that is ~230mb and /var/tmp/elvis*.sess maxes out at 128mb when trying to open the file [09:58] why in the hell is a txt file 230MB? [09:58] sql script [09:58] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:58] That's still insane [09:58] yes, but it is what it is. [09:59] mag0o: are these session files being written by php? [09:59] Dominian: a zip file thats been renamed to make it through gmails filters ;) [09:59] a webapp at work takes wire transfers and builds sql scripts from exported wire queries, and mssql 2005 can't import it b/c of the size, so im trying to split the file... [10:00] Zordrak: hehe [10:00] nooper: no, they're elvis .ses files [10:00] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] (not .sess - that was a typo) [10:00] baggz (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] hi [10:00] o [10:00] I have a volume knob that worked automatically in Arch. How to find what driver would go with that? [10:01] baggz, you need xev and a ~/.Xmodmap file [10:01] It's likely just a keycode [10:04] ah, since i knew where i wanted to split the file, i just used awk [10:08] Action: Zordrak just had an epiphany. Free as in libre software really ought to be called Freedom software instead of free software. It would help fight those who miss the point and only understand free as in beer.. and would also help the inbred american morons (im not talking about all americans.. just specific ones) who will rally around anything pertaining to freedom as an extension of the bill of rights [10:09] ^ Zordrak Libre Software would be better [10:09] people already use the word libre [10:10] Zordrak: thats retarded [10:10] tank-man: yes, but most of them don't know the meaning , we had a specimen in channel who had asked the meaning of libre ! [10:10] init[1]: but harder to understand for the average american and for the average moron who equates french words in english as ponce or smart-ass [10:10] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:11] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Zordrak: Libre would force the people to urge for the exact meaning of *Libre Software",i think its better than FreeSoftware which is quite twisted ! [10:11] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] libre is a brand of tampons here. Zordrak Libre Software gives me a funny feeliing. [10:12] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [10:12] libre just isnt the right word. Its meaning is right.. but it has no marketing impact.. Freedom has immense marketing impact. [10:12] I just found out what FLOSS stood for :) [10:13] hmm,yea Freedom Software ! [10:13] tank-man: lol [10:13] free, libre and open source software [10:13] akshat (n=akshat@122.162.255.86) joined ##slackware. [10:13] hi [10:13] i dont like that.. that suggust that free does in fact *just* mean free as in beer because libre has been added as an extra term [10:14] Zordrak: what about writing and email to RMS ? (i'm not joking) [10:14] a/and/an/ [10:15] i suppose i could.... :/ not sure it'd do any good [10:15] i am in the process of recovering data from a damaged partition using photorec. The partition I am using for copying the restored file is quickly running out of space. can i delete some of the recovered files to make space on the drive? I hope photorec will not be using them again for verification of recovered data etc.. right? [10:16] Zordrak: atleast he would justify why he is still sticking with FreeSoftware ! [10:17] trying to recover a large HDD to a smaller HDD ? sounds like trouble [10:17] tank-man: i did not select any media files but i think avi was not in the list so it also recovering movies :( [10:18] tank-man: the drive would have been enough for documents [10:19] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [10:21] SIGBUS (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] er i have an explanation there [10:31] TwinReverb: Internal 56k Modem Doesn't Work I don't care. lol [10:31] hey, only one guitar amp per channel [10:31] Action: TwinReverb stabs mesa_booger [10:31] i came before you :P [10:31] (no homo) [10:32] in a tutorial that I read it is said that using intenral modem isn't recommanded , use ethernet modem [10:32] always buy ethernet external modem [10:32] it actually working as a router [10:32] usually i remove my modem cards [10:32] literally [10:32] most are mini-PCI (laptop thing) [10:33] TwinReverb: BookMarked ;) [10:33] aww gee thanks [10:35] Action: Zordrak just emailed RMS [10:35] o_O [10:35] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [10:35] hi, i found that lib req to compatible s64 with 32bits are in ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current, i am compile wine with that, but when run an windows app dont appears, just a black screen [10:36] wow nice Zordrak :) do tell the reply , if you are mailing him first time you will get a *not a vaction response* from RMS :D [10:36] a what? [10:37] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] There is something called Vacation repsonse,like if we are away from email,when ever some one mail us,this predefined response is send ! RMS has smthing like that iirc [10:38] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [10:38] i know what vacation is.. but what do you mean by a *not a vacation response* [10:39] i think you should have got that by now! Zordrak [10:39] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [10:39] it would be greylisted [10:39] Zordrak: nvm1 :) [10:39] its an automated response he means [10:39] would take a few mins [10:40] got it [10:40] tank-man: yes,but i felt it funny,coz it was written "This is not a vacation repsonse,right now i have about xxxxx number of mail in my inbox,i will reply soon" [10:40] Zordrak: o_O [10:40] Zordrak: did you read it ? [10:40] yes.. just have [10:41] Action: init[1] hopes Zordrak understood me ! [10:41] s/me/him/ [10:41] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] hes using an autoresponder to advise that his inbound and outbound mail is batch-processed [10:42] :) [10:43] sounds almost like when they email you telling you that your email box is full [10:43] Zordrak: if he gives a good reply,please do put that in your blog ! you might see increase in traffic ;) [10:43] of course i would [10:43] RMS reply you in 2 days, he live replying their emails [10:44] man they need to make a laptop screen that can be washed using windex [10:44] buying specific wipes is expensive [10:44] ovnicraft: imo,he will reply soon,if it has a stunning subject ! [10:44] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Subject: FUBoat [10:44] Body: made you look [10:46] TwinReverb: They could put a sheet of glass in front of the actual LCD panel (I believe the Unibody MacBooks and some of the Apple Cinema Displays already do this) but that would probably be expensive, not to mention fragile [10:46] and even worse than the reflective screens they already have [10:46] mine is a sony vaio with that exo-brite or whatever, it's like a fingerprint magnet for your SCREEN [10:46] thats you you should buy the older glossy screen... [10:47] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:47] well i do like this screen [10:50] LSD`: its ironic that your name is rhyming with LCD :D [10:52] LSD`, you be trippin' :P [10:53] _bruno (n=bruno@200.145.37.66) left irc: [10:54] I used to have an acer tablet that had some glass element to the screen [10:54] was hella heavy, but no other real detriments [10:55] maybe some day they can make one that's ultra-thin and ultra-strong like from synthetic crystal or something [10:56] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) joined ##slackware. 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[11:38] ksh is an interesting shell. [11:38] ALVAN :) i am :] [11:40] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.48.144) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:46] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:46] archimandritas (n=locus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] hello good afternoom [11:51] archimandritas (n=locus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:58] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:58] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Action: init[1] silence befalls ##slackware ! [12:05] archiebenedict: its allmost midnight here ;) [12:07] Axius (n=Axius@92.85.218.243) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hi [12:09] Axius (n=Axius@92.85.218.243) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:10] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:10] ALVAN if u say so [12:16] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.62) joined ##slackware. [12:17] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:19] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:22] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-41.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A75711.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427644.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Connection timed out [12:32] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:33] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:34] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-125.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:36] Im having a problem with phpsinfo on slackware.. at the top of phpsysinfo site it says this: http://phpsysinfo.pastebin.com/m17af70db [12:37] what can be wrong? [12:38] actually I get these errors, without sensors http://www.cjhon.com/phpsys/ [12:39] Kowalczyk: we dont support that junk [12:39] Kowalczyk: double-check your configuration, but as spook said its not a Slackware issue. [12:39] spook: hehe:) ok. I just wondered. trying to find out what [12:39] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6520be4.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] Dominian: it's working on debian... without those errors. hmm [12:40] Kowalczyk: try #php [12:40] I run the same thing on slackware 13.0.0.0.0 and it works fine [12:40] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:42] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-123-12.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:42] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gmjzdhddgypcvsfi) left irc: [12:42] Dominian: I have done a minimal install. maybe a library problem? I get a few *.so errors in httpd/errors.log ?can it be that? [12:42] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: [12:42] Kowalczyk: check you /var/log/httpd/error_log [12:42] Kowalczyk: you should do a full install, unless you know what you're doing and really dont have any choice [12:42] Kowalczyk: that would be an indicator.. my guess is you're missing some X libs [12:43] spook: Im trying to learn. :) therefore Im doing it the hard way [12:43] Dominian: yeah. I will try installing those libs :D [12:43] Kowalczyk: no, you' [12:43] re doing it the wrong way [12:43] spook: hmm?:) [12:43] ldd on the php binary will be helpful [12:44] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [12:46] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-41.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:46] thrice`: yeah.. that's definitely doable.. but I've found with apache.. just easier to find out what its bitching about and install those. :P [12:46] Action: Dominian used to have a list of those requireds somewhere [12:46] Dominian: im checking error.log :) [12:47] a lot of library there:d [12:47] its not as bad as you think [12:48] yeah I don't have my list of the requireds for php any longer [12:48] you need a bunch of X for gd [12:49] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:50] spook: yep [12:50] it was like 7 or 8 packages [12:51] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Action: thrice` still doesn't think that's right [12:52] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] thrice`: there are multiple ways to build a road.. but do you really know all of them ? :P [12:53] well, I don't think it's right for stuff in n/ to depend on stuff from x/. maybe php should move to xap/ ? :) [12:54] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6520b6e.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:54] thrice`: or maybe the depends should be removed [12:54] :) [12:54] The reason they are ther eas spook stated is for GD [12:55] maybe /usr/doc/php-version/README could list the packages you needed? [13:00] can anyone tell me where I find libt1.so.5 ? I cant find what packages that does include that [13:00] Kowalczyk: check packages.slackware.it [13:00] you can list out file matches as well [13:01] yermandu (n=yermandu@201.28.104.101) joined ##slackware. [13:02] can someone send to me strace or ptrace source, or direct link? 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[13:30] Alan_Hicks: small server, ssh, maybe torrenting [13:30] Camarade: slack 13; KDE4; simultaneous numerical analysis, video transcoding, defrag, tictactoe ;) [13:31] slackware 12 have been worked on my 486 with 32RAM [13:31] lee555J5_: hehe :P [13:31] Camarade_Tux: If you're not going desktop, I'd just install 13.0. [13:31] Camarade_Tux: I installed slack-current on a 266mhz machine with 64MB of ram [13:31] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl6-39.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:31] In any event, google up how to overclock that CPU. Those low MHZ Celerons would overclock pretty good. [13:31] I didnt think 13 would install on a machine with less than 128megs due to the initrd size [13:31] Alan_Hicks: yeah, I was wondering cause I've made slamd64-12.2 to use 10MB of memory at boot [13:31] straterra: What?! [13:32] hello guys [13:32] Alan_Hicks: I've heard that from robby..or you..or someone official in here :P [13:32] well, it's 128 or 256 anyway [13:32] Lord_Khelben: hi [13:32] Maybe it was 64MB..but it was a large ammount still [13:32] straterra: or 64MB? [13:32] straterra: If you added every single driver in /lib to the initrd it would only be about 256MB in size. [13:33] Plus the scripts :P [13:33] the initrd is about 40MB iirc [13:33] and any binaries needed (md/lvm) [13:33] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-105-15.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:33] My initrd.gz is only 2.9MB. [13:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.134.138) joined ##slackware. [13:33] My initrd is 0k [13:33] Uncompressed, that's 6.8M. [13:33] hi there! [13:33] initrd is for suckers :P [13:33] bonsoir bonsoir [13:33] hello fredoslack [13:33] metrofox: ciao :) [13:33] ciao deco [13:33] and metrofox too [13:33] hello, sorry [13:33] hi fire|bird [13:33] =) [13:33] Hello, Lord_Khelben =) [13:34] hi Lord_Khelben [13:34] well... I noticed KDE 4.3.2 out... [13:34] i hate initrd too. but if you want to have / on lvm then you need it [13:34] fredoslack: bonjour :) [13:34] Ioo deco =) [13:34] actually i used to hate initrd. now i hate initramfs [13:34] ouf un french =) [13:35] :P [13:36] Alan_Hicks: I was thinking about the installer [13:36] yoyo fredoslack [13:37] yermandu (n=yermandu@201.28.104.101) left ##slackware ("see"). [13:37] HI Camarade_Tux = ) [13:37] canyouscore (n=canyousc@71.227.32.90) left irc: "leaving" [13:37] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-125.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:38] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: [13:39] baggz (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:40] http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 \o/ [13:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:41] nice deco [13:41] Lord_Khelben: thanks :) [13:41] Did anyone else see that and think it said Kameltoe? [13:41] with maiden/metallica it would more beautiful :P [13:41] Alan_Hicks: hmmmmm no :P [13:41] s/would/would be/ [13:41] Lord_Khelben: heh :P [13:41] i keep eating/ommiting words [13:42] same here [13:42] firebird is the king of screenshot [13:42] every screenshot of his is great [13:42] pffft [13:44] did anyone else see eating/vomiting words? [13:44] :) [13:45] o_O [13:46] firedix (n=firedix@host243.200-117-195.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:46] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.44.105) joined ##slackware. [13:47] hmm.. KDE4 looks nice in that screenshot [13:47] *facepalm* [13:48] mako-sama: sure does [13:49] i haven't seen any ugly kde4 screenshot. it always looks nice :P [13:49] Lord_Khelben: :P [13:49] yeah... it always *looks* nice [13:50] now just if looking nice would cut it :p [13:50] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.9) joined ##slackware. [13:50] mako-sama: you mean it doesn't run nice ? [13:51] welcome rg3 [13:51] it does now with the nice plasma hack.... [13:51] hi [13:51] i got my slack 13 dvd today [13:51] \o/ [13:51] congrats \o/ [13:51] how was it? [13:52] amazing, it appeared out of nowhere in my mailbox [13:52] it's like a miracle or something [13:52] deco: you mean the raster thing ? [13:52] Lord_Khelben: yeah [13:52] rg3: happy slacking :) [13:53] rg3: miracle? this is the first time I see anyone put it that way :P [13:55] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.52.211) joined ##slackware. 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[14:01] actually plugdev [14:01] (most importantly, the plugdev group) [14:01] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:02] na na na na na na [14:02] jeev jeev [14:03] scote (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] Nick change: sirmacik -> wcalenienup [14:03] Nick change: wcalenienup -> dazszpieguje [14:04] "thank you lk,thrice" "you're welcome scote" [14:04] [14:04] damn... i'm bored [14:04] Nick change: dazszpieguje -> sirmacik [14:04] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:04] nachox: me too :( [14:05] nachox: watch some lolcat. that helps :P [14:05] lolcat? [14:05] sup [14:05] nachox: http://icanhascheezburger.com/ [14:05] jeev: still reading the book... [14:06] I have some work you can do [14:06] thrice`, such as? [14:07] lemme guess, set mode +o thrice` ? [14:08] actually, some mindless excel crap now :| [14:09] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:11] i think i hate cats [14:11] :/ [14:11] oo... cats are cute [14:11] but I hate them too [14:11] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:11] I don't understand why anyone hats cats. [14:11] nachox , psychopat?:) [14:11] ckt1g3r: hahaha [14:11] they scratch your new paint? [14:11] Or dogs for that matter. Unless of course you're allergic to them. [14:11] slackytude: had you seen Lesbian Vampire Killers in the end? [14:12] Action: _guitarman_ likes cats [14:12] some cats REALLY annoy me [14:12] :) [14:12] MidnightDevil (n=Dreamer@a213-22-73-225.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:12] hi [14:12] same goes for dogs [14:12] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.44.105) left irc: "Leaving" [14:12] <_guitarman_> sure all animals can be annoying [14:12] how do i Kill X ? im trying init 3 but doesnt seem to do anything [14:12] actually I hate dogs because they lick [14:12] cats are stupid [14:12] MidnightDevil: try ctrl+alt+backspace [14:12] MidnightDevil: did you use startx? [14:12] <_guitarman_> MidnightDevil: for real, as root, telinit 3 isn't working? [14:12] cats are smarter than most people. [14:12] Camarade_Tux: mon amour , Ne me Quitte pas :) new french \o/ [14:12] MidnightDevil: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace [14:13] spook i started with kdm [14:13] deco: lol [14:13] Alan_Hicks: s/cats/rocks/g/ [14:13] Alan_Hicks: true unfortunately [14:13] The majority of people in here... I can replace them with a shell script, but I can't get a shell script to kill rats and frogs. [14:13] Camarade_Tux that seems to restart it, doest kill it [14:13] <_guitarman_> MidnightDevil: in that case if ctrl-alt-backspace does work, it will bring u back to kdm [14:13] well i want to kill X to compile nvidia drivers... [14:13] <_guitarman_> MidnightDevil: if u want to kill kdm and x telinit 3 should do it [14:13] so ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work [14:13] ok, [14:14] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.48.144) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:14] tks :) [14:14] MidnightDevil: when you are in kdm screen press ctrl+alt+f6 then login in the tty6 and then run telinit 3 [14:15] tks Lord_Khelben, worked :) [14:15] i'll be needing ur help guys to get my wifi working too :P [14:15] network seems to work fine but with ethernet [14:15] MidnightDevil: wicd. [14:16] that's something i'll need to install spook ? [14:16] its in /extra/ and will make your wifi work much easier [14:16] ok :) [14:17] anyone knows how slackware-13.0/slackware is, without the kde and kdei folders, and without x and xap? [14:17] Camarade_Tux: you mean in terms of disk space? [14:18] 600mb ? [14:18] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] rg3: yeah, I'm downloading the packages [14:18] so the size of the packages before installation ;) * [14:19] Camarade_Tux: mon amour, ne me quitte pas, je ne peux vivre sans toi ;-) [14:19] Action: deco goes back to reading [14:20] deco: lol [14:20] deco: you're learning french? :P [14:20] Camarade_Tux: yes again :P [14:21] Camarade_Tux: powerfull words :P [14:22] deco: ^^ [14:22] deco: yup :) [14:22] :) [14:24] comrad [14:24] we found your videos [14:24] XD [14:24] dmitri! [14:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jaYOpbgieU [14:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2BaCbVIZ1s [14:25] wow, [14:26] Action: jeev holds out his beating stick [14:26] wow what ? [14:26] you never cease to amaze me jeev [14:26] (with stupidity) [14:26] i'm honored [14:26] oh look, it's stratella, the guy who comes once a month with stupid comments [14:26] ugh. slackpkg thinks it's an error to have both virtualbox-kernel-2.1.4_2.6.29.5-x86_64-1_SBo and virtualbox-kernel-2.1.4_2.6.29.6-x86_64-1_SBo installed (they're for different kernel versions, nothing wrong with having them both) [14:27] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:27] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:28] jeev: I've been here since before the best part of you ran down the crack of your mom's ass and left a brown stain on the mattress [14:28] haaaaaaaaaa haha [14:28] you're funny. [14:29] You aren't. Get the hint and go away already. [14:29] sarcasm works both ways [14:29] leave jeev alone! :( [14:29] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:29] I wasn't being sarcastic..so I don't know what 'both ways' you mean. [14:30] deco, dont worry about him, in a few minutes he'll have to step away to his usual round of picking up his coworkers trash bags and putting new ons [14:30] ones [14:30] it's like this every day [14:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [14:30] Projecting a bit, aren't you? [14:31] welcome to my fag list [14:31] I wouldn't say that too loud. [14:31] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. 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[14:36] that's a pretty slax-specific-sounding question (slackware hasn't got a "rootcopy directory") [14:37] however, I do have an answer of sorts: you should try it and see what happens [14:37] hey respected|illustriousness [14:37] err Urchlay [14:38] lol [14:38] scrambles|deprivation [14:38] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Urchlay, you've been missing for a while [14:39] was I missing anything important? [14:39] Urchlay: wb! [14:39] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:39] init[1] [14:39] jeev: You should imitate Urchlay [14:39] Urchlay: i remember jeev, telling me , Urchlay can't help himself ! :D [14:40] Action: init[1] hides [14:40] eh, I don't even want to know [14:40] yo phoenix^ [14:40] y0 Camarade_Tux [14:40] Nick change: init[1] -> buffer [14:41] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.62) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:41] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [14:41] pmvalente (n=pmv@a213-22-60-154.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:41] fire|bird: :) [14:41] hey Lord_Khelben, how are you? [14:41] fire|bird: you are back,! much better ! [14:41] lol [14:41] hi guys [14:41] hi ruben23 [14:42] hello, anyone could tell me how install a package from dvd, I don't have internet and need to install wicd from extras on dvd, thx [14:42] installpkg ? [14:42] mount the dvd, then installpkg from the mount location [14:42] pmvalente: mount the dvd and use installpkg [14:42] Lord_Khelben: vbatts was kind enough to build and provide kde 4.3.2 packages for 64bit. I've got those on my laptop now, very, very nice. [14:43] the wicd on the dvd might be funky, the devs are still learning how to use regexes :) [14:43] nice to hear that [14:43] Action: Intel[R]VT-x fire|bird got too much fire [14:43] Action: buffer lucky that i changed my nick [14:43] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.255) joined ##slackware. [14:43] wb metrofox ! [14:43] Lord_Khelben: It's built against -current, (which has a different qt version) so if you try them on 13, all you'll get is a white blank screen. :P [14:44] hi buffer [14:44] hm, how is "wicd" supposed to be pronounced? [14:44] hi metrofox [14:44] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "rebooting" [14:44] i don't have 13.0 i always have -current [14:44] hi fire|bird [14:44] Lord_Khelben, thx, there is two file names one ends .txz and another txz.acs, which I use [14:44] Lord_Khelben, me too =) [14:44] pmvalente: the .txz [14:44] pmvalente: the .txz [14:44] i read it as wick-dee, not sure about "supposed to" [14:44] pmvalente: the other one is the GPG signature [14:44] Lord_Khelben, thx again [14:44] fire|bird: 4.3.68 had bugs and you downgraded ? [14:45] Lord_Khelben: I never got 4.3.68 built. :P [14:45] ah i thought you did [14:45] I got busy with other things. :P [14:45] fire|bird, did you build KDE 4.3.1? [14:45] fire|bird: with gnome :P [14:45] hm, so there's a -current again [14:45] metrofox: I have built it, yeah. [14:45] deco: Ugh, that was aweful. [14:45] Urchlay, thx [14:45] fire|bird, today KDE 4.3.2 got out... [14:45] metrofox: yeah, actually was released yesterday. [14:45] :O [14:46] fire|bird, mm [14:46] I plan to do a clean install to get rid of the gnome crap, but the drive I was going to use for extra backup and a spot for the slack tree, I have now deemed to be unreliable. [14:46] fire|bird: the qt-git in -current is so much different than qt-copy in 13.0 and kde doesn't run ? [14:47] fire|bird: smoke coming out of it? [14:47] ok, so the revised answer is "gsb is not a clean uninstall" ? [14:47] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Urchlay: no, but it will show up as it should, two partitions, then it will just show up as /dev/hda with no partitions, etc. [14:48] Lord_Khelben: evidently, yeah. All I got was a white blank screen, and BP{k} experienced the same behavior. [14:48] hello [14:48] hello godling [14:48] godling: hey [14:48] hey godling [14:48] fire|bird: weird. Never seen a drive do that, no clue as to what it means [14:49] Urchlay: me either, hence deeming it unreliable for anything. :P [14:49] bad/flaky sector in the MBR maybe [14:49] Action: Intel[R]VT-x is building my own slax with metasploit , aircrackng , nmap , netcat , any other suggestions ? [14:49] I just formatted it to ext3 yesterday. [14:49] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:49] Intel[R]VT-x, are you a security expert? =) [14:49] nop [14:49] Urchlay: I have one other spare hdd (40G) but that has osol on it, and I don't want to get rid of that. [14:49] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [14:50] security student? [14:50] generally linux kernel expert [14:50] yes [14:50] but not study it now just for fun [14:50] I study kernel and VHDL [14:50] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Intel[R]VT-x, ;) you can also build your programs with already existing slackbuilds... just take a look to SBo... [14:50] my side is linux kernel and VHDL [14:50] rewriting the kernel in VHDL so it can be implemented in hardware? [14:50] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] brb [14:51] Lord_Khelben: With that all white screen, I could get the run dialog box up, could type, etc. but it wouldn't accept anything even, so there must be significant enough differences to make it not work. [14:51] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left ##slackware. [14:51] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] Urchlay: there are some dummy terminals that implementd like this [14:51] Intel[R]VT-x, john some proxy thing [14:52] yeah, know a guy who taught himself vhdl by implementing a dumb terminal in it... he never did finish it though [14:52] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Intel[R]VT-x, wireshark, are you building wireshark? [14:53] should I add wireshark ? [14:53] how did you know ? [14:53] O_O [14:53] wireshark = the new name for ethereal? definitely include it [14:53] yeah Urchlay [14:53] Urchlay: yes. [14:53] howdy BP{k} [14:53] Intel[R]VT-x, you wrote those tools, I didn't see wireshark(aka etheral) between them... [14:54] wicd working, so easy now to install Slackware, long time since my first experience in linux with slackware 10 [14:54] fire|bird: who did you get album cover support in the now playing plasmoid ? or is it a 4.3 thing ? [14:54] how did* [14:54] deco: It's a kde4 thing, 4.2.4 should also provide it. [14:54] fire|bird: hmmmm i see no option for it :P [14:55] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] fire|bird: howdy :) [14:56] slackware 10 and 10.1 weren't very fun... 10.2 was really good IMO [14:57] deco: right click the desktop, Add Widgets, find Now Playing [14:57] fire|bird: i have it running already it's just not displaying the cover art... [14:57] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-253-47.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:58] maybe the cover support was added after 4.2.4 ? [14:58] Lord_Khelben: the bird says it doesn't matter :/ [14:58] i am guessing. i don't know it for sure [14:58] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:59] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] deco: If it's not showing cover art, then the cover art hasn't been downloaded. You can use amarok to download it all for you. [15:00] Lord_Khelben: Also, 4.3.2 has added a Media Player widget that can display videos now. [15:00] fire|bird: I'm using amarok to play my music and manually added the cover art [15:00] mpd ftw [15:00] deco: and it still isn't working? [15:00] fire|bird: nope :? [15:00] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] :/* [15:01] thats why i use xmms and don't worry about these things :P [15:01] lol [15:01] Karu (n=alch@78-28-66-233.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Lord_Khelben: audacious :P [15:01] i never liked audacious [15:01] deco: Try running Amarok's Download Cover Art thing. [15:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [15:01] hey nix_chix0r :) [15:01] heya Necos [15:01] can i [15:01] no [15:01] put a link here ? [15:01] fire|bird: does not work remember the amazon thing.... [15:02] deco: I don't recall that, no. It always works here. :P [15:02] hi [15:02] it's a nice link [15:02] :( [15:02] nix_chix0r: sup [15:02] hello nix_chix0r [15:02] y0 nix_chix0r, how are you? [15:02] (pictures from fredoslack lol) [15:02] hehe [15:02] it seems that slax is easy for my company [15:02] fire|bird: it does ?!?!?! lucky :P , well amazon changed their api and amarok can't connect to it so they are switchign to last.fm [15:03] switching* [15:03] deco: hahaha, well, it works here. [15:03] that doesn't seem logical [15:03] blah, i wouldn't mind an IV of like whiskey or something for work cause i do not want to be there. [15:03] assholes [15:03] either amazon changed its api and it doesn't work, or amazon didn't [15:03] fredoslack: post them! :D [15:03] thanks [15:04] deco, it's comming [15:04] and i can't find my slack DVD! [15:04] fredoslack: merci \o/ [15:04] deco, it's here >> http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/chinatow/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=149dec [15:04] lool [15:04] deco, c'est à mon taff [15:04] lool [15:04] Lord_Khelben: yeah, doesn't make sense, plus, it works here. [15:04] fredoslack: oh god [15:04] lol [15:04] fire|bird, can you mail me one plz [15:04] mdr [15:05] I'm using amarok 2.2.0 though, maybe they fixed the issues? [15:05] deco, i love these heads [15:05] fredoslack: oui :P [15:05] these yellow heads [15:05] fire|bird: yeah [15:05] they did [15:05] but then, it worked fine before I upgraded too. :P [15:05] fire|bird: shuddap [15:05] deco ftl!!! :P [15:05] fire|bird: shuddap damn it! [15:06] Am I pissing you off-fa-fa [15:06] finally, this stupid thing downloads [15:06] fire|bird: T_T [15:06] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-5-124.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [15:06] btw for those that don't know i like cats.... [15:07] that is all [15:07] get back to work [15:07] [15:07] deco, do you like my heads ? [15:07] [ in bed ] [15:07] hm. What is the "correct" way to get libflashplayer.so (flash 10, 64-bit) to find libnss3.so and friends? /etc/ld.so.conf would work, but they're in a directory whose name changes every time firefox updates (currently /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.3/) [15:07] T_T [15:07] cats are awesome :P [15:07] they are great, isn't it :p [15:08] fredoslack: comme ci, comme ca :P [15:08] Necos: yes they are :P [15:08] Urchlay: is it necessary to do that ? [15:09] Urchlay: Can't you use /usr/lib64/firefox? That symlinks to firefox-3.5.x [15:09] ldd libflashplayer.so says it can't find nss etc on me too, but it works fine on firefox [15:09] and, I think it adjusts the symlink each new version, doesn't it? [15:09] well, "ldd ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so" reports that it can't find libnss3.so and 3 or 4 others [15:09] and it *doesn't* work [15:09] about:plugins doesn't mention flash at all [15:09] Urchlay: seamonkey-solibs or something like that [15:10] yeah, got those [15:10] i don't have seamonkey-* installed and flash works [15:10] if you want me to test anything tell me [15:10] wtf? oh, maybe the seamonkey package is 32-bit? [15:10] no [15:10] dfhetyhwsrth (n=sxfg@212.183.136.193) joined ##slackware. [15:10] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] I mean, yes, I have a seamonkey-solibs-compat32, but that's a different package [15:11] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [15:11] oh wait, my "64-bit" libflashplayer.so is actually 32-bit, that might explain why it don't work... duuuuh [15:11] lol [15:11] hehe :) [15:12] all the firefox libs report missing libs in ldd but they work fine [15:12] run-mozilla.sh export LD_LIBRARY_PATH [15:12] right [15:12] the same with some java libs [15:13] probably it's done that all along and I never noticed because it worked... until I tried to use a 32-bit plugin [15:13] fire|bird: maybe i have to move the cover art to the folder holding the music ? [15:15] fire|bird: ok, I'm just now trying out your flash LAHF fix [15:15] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-125.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [15:15] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [15:15] lahf ? [15:16] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Oh cool, new Heroes. [15:16] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-123-12.multimo.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] fire|bird: nope that didn't work either :/ [15:17] bbiab, turning brain into mush ;P [15:17] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [15:17] fire|bird: it works. Or anyway, one of those annoying flash-based audio players on someone's myspace page, which used to kill the browser, now plays annoying audio [15:18] i never had any crash or 100%cpu on 64bit flash (even fullscreen works). with 32bit nothing worked :( [15:18] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-122-72.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:19] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] either its a coincidence or adobe did better job for the 64bit plugin [15:20] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [15:20] well, the 64-bit binary plugin contains the LAHF instruction, which actually doesn't exist on the oldest AMD64 CPUs (including mine and fire|bird's), so it kept crashing for us with "illegal instruction" [15:20] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:21] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] does anyone know if there is an OpenJDK build script or something for slackware? [15:21] someone out there figured this out and wrote a tiny bit o' code that catches the signal and emulates the LAHF instruction [15:21] they should know of this and make it not use the lahf instruction then [15:22] they should, but, eh, they didn't [15:22] sloppy job [15:22] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] of course 64-bit flash is still considered an alpha, not a release, so they've covered their asses... [15:22] Urchlay: Had you tried that patch for flash 64bit at all to see if it worked for you too? [15:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:22] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [15:23] yeah. the stable 32bit releases never had any problems :P [15:23] fire|bird: yeah, that's what I'm talking about, I just now tried it for the first time and it works great [15:23] they're covered legally but it still sucks [15:23] Lord_Khelben: agreed [15:23] twanny796 (n=root@85.232.203.29) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Urchlay: ok, the net has been going off and on, so I've missed bits and pieces of the conversation. :P [15:24] fire|bird: you net should be flying :P [15:24] Lord_Khelben: Well, the speed was increased not long ago, but the connection still sucks at times. :P [15:24] fire|bird: ah you missed winter when he explained the meaning of life [15:24] oh lord [15:24] fire|bird: the thing I'm wondering is, is adobe planning to fix this in a future version of flash10, or should we be bugging Pat to include it in his slackbuild for flash? [15:25] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] Action: brbrbr warmly greet everyone :P [15:25] hello brbrbr [15:25] Action: deco coldy greets brbrbr [15:25] keres_ (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Urchlay: I'm not sure what adobe's plans are with it, I think, at least for now, it might not be a bad idea to have it patched, in order to have a better working flash for 64bit. It seems that you and I are the only ones (that we know of) that have this issue, but who's to say there aren't others that haven't said anything. [15:26] Action: brbrbr feels cold, because deco greeting [15:27] It would be a good idea for Adobe to fix this issue, imo, but who knows what they'll do. [15:27] Action: deco hugs brbrbr [15:27] Action: brbrbr have cold tremor. [15:27] fire|bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64, search for LAHF within the page. Apparently only really ancient (2005 and earlier) AMD64/EMT64 CPUs lack the LAHF/SAHF instructions [15:27] Action: brbrbr evade hogging and take another hot tea cup [15:27] Urchlay: Hmm, my laptop is from 2007 :P [15:27] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] any suggestions on what linux to install on my old compaq armada with 1GB hard disk? [15:28] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6520b6e.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-253-47.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] Urchlay: either way, Adobe's handled that in a crappy way. :P [15:28] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-253-47.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:29] twanny796: slackware without KDE (use a small window manager like windowmaker or icewm or fluxbox), should work fine... how much RAM have you got? [15:30] Urchlay : when I do free I get total 14212! [15:31] ouch [15:31] twanny796: is logged in as root! :O [15:32] heh, you might try to find a copy of netscape navigator 3.0 if you need a web browser :) [15:32] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@adsl292-82.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] very quick question...i got a quad pc... slackware64 or slamd64... which one does one suggest... :( <-- of course i know its kind of stupid... [15:33] deco: indeed, I thought unixfool was going to add another rule to block that, but it maybe didn't work, the bot hasn't been to happy lately. :P [15:33] slackware64 ftw!!!! :) [15:33] oh comrad The-Croupier [15:33] but i dont have time...ive tried slamd64 before..feel secure with slackware32 i use in my laptop... now im confused [15:33] The-Croupier: not speaking for fred, but I don't think slamd64 will be around any longer [15:33] deco so ... [15:33] Lord_Khelben hiya [15:33] fire|bird: yeah :P [15:33] thrice`i see... [15:33] The-Croupier: go with slackware64 :) [15:33] good thing i asked then [15:34] bye see you later [15:34] twanny796 (n=root@85.232.203.29) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] Lord_Khelben, what do you suggest bro... [15:34] deco: haha, he left. [15:34] fire|bird: the tranny ? [15:34] :P [15:34] right... if it was anything else.. apart from slackware ... what would it be? [15:34] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] deco: must be southern, he used twanny. :P [15:34] fire|bird: hahaha [15:34] The-Croupier: i say either of two have great quality and stability [15:34] i really like to have a UNIX system installed ... i havent been reading enough lately though...i admit [15:34] or, he's got a lisp and typed it wrong. [15:35] Lord_Khelben, i know thats why im confused.. [15:35] taking in account what thrice` said then i say slackware64 [15:35] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] slackware65 is officially supported i whouldn't you use it [15:35] again: if you had to choose unix like os... what would it be [15:35] 64* [15:35] haha [15:35] The-Croupier: slackware... [15:35] The-Croupier: i always use slackware and netbsd [15:36] and only these :P [15:36] netbsd ;) [15:36] ok thank you... [15:36] i was just asking cos i want to try something else in parallel with slackware...now i have the chance... [15:36] thank you.. [15:36] The-Croupier: freebsd... [15:37] freebsd, or netbsd...?!!! [15:37] The-Croupier: next time you get a quad save one for me too :P [15:37] The-Croupier: freebsd [15:37] try them both [15:37] virtualbox ftw [15:37] i cannot ... [15:37] i have to do it NOW [15:37] The-Croupier: freebsd is the daddy of them [15:37] i do want the daddy ;) [15:37] actually 386bsd is the daddy of them i think [15:37] so freebsd it is [15:37] The-Croupier: so use freebsd :P [15:38] 386bsd or bsd/os i don't remember [15:38] ok... slackware64 and freebsd... ;) awsomeness [15:38] thank you guys... i knew i could count on you... [15:38] ;) [15:38] slackware > all :P [15:38] The-Croupier: :) [15:38] The-Croupier: why NOW ? [15:38] @ [15:39] Karu (n=alch@78-28-66-233.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:39] Lord_Khelben, my brother is off the house... when he comes back..it would be a nice surprise..not being able to play that fcking wow game again... [15:39] The-Croupier: lol [15:39] been palying for the last 3years..got on my nerves [15:39] The-Croupier: WoW works perfectly in wine :P [15:39] yeah [15:39] Lord_Khelben, shshhhhhhh he doesnt know that [15:39] i have it in wine in my little laptop ;) [15:39] Action: The-Croupier hides [15:40] i played it for 2-3 hours and got bored :P [15:40] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Action: deco doesn't have the money to pay monthy [15:40] Lord_Khelben, have you got some mirror that is quick for greece? on those two? [15:40] baldur's gate + planescape :torment > all [15:40] Action: The-Croupier either [15:40] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] deco: 99% of greeks play lineage,wow on free servers not official :P [15:41] i have only one friend that plays the official [15:41] Lord_Khelben: i've played on free servers, horrible quality :P [15:41] monsters floating.... [15:41] had enough :P [15:41] Lord_Khelben, i see ntua has slackware64-current..is it nice..or do you recommend another? [15:41] Lord_Khelben: you are greek too ? [15:41] deco: yes [15:41] Lord_Khelben: oh cool :) [15:42] The-Croupier: i think only ntua and duth have slack [15:42] (and have respectable speeds) [15:43] i seee.. i cannot find slackware64-current iso.. so i am downloading 13... ;) [15:43] it will do for now.. i will keep current on my laptop..and play with the quad pc... for testing..etc...;) [15:43] The-Croupier: try "the witcher" if you haven't already [15:43] anyone know where fred put his awesome script to convert slackware packages to compat32 pakages for slack64? [15:43] Lord_Khelben, that is a game isnt it? [15:44] Lord_Khelben, also,....could you please remind me..what city do you live in? i forgot...:( [15:44] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.255) left irc: "+-||\-" [15:44] The-Croupier: xanthi (thrace) in the north near thessaloniki [15:44] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427644.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] nyRednek: i know only of Eric's script [15:45] Lord_Khelben, ohh ok.... [15:45] was it Agiofws, that was closer to me? or am i wrong? [15:45] agiofws is athens i think [15:45] i don't remember [15:45] Lord_Khelben, and wth is eric? [15:45] Agiofws, ohh look hes here..like Agiofws..:p [15:45] nyRednek: alienBOB [15:45] Eric is alienbob [15:45] :O [15:45] fire|bird, ah...ok [15:45] ? [15:46] Agiofws, could you remind me the city you live in? i forgot.. [15:46] Agiofws: he wants to borrow money :P [15:46] Lord_Khelben, i was referring to how fred made slamd64 c/ series [15:46] google's barcode is getting annoying T_T [15:46] Lord_Khelben, is in thrace;) [15:46] i cannot go to thrace for money... [15:46] its too far away.. [15:46] deco: It's in honor of the invention of the barcode you insensitive clod, get used to it. :P [15:47] fire|bird: hmmm makes me feel like in half life 2... like we are being controlled [15:47] firebird, its everywhere in google.. ;) [15:47] lol [15:47] someone didn't get the joke... :P [15:48] deco: Oh, what's that stamped on your neck, you have a barcode. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM now. :P [15:48] fire|bird: btw look under your wing :P [15:49] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] thanks for that flash lahf fix btw, I think more people are affected by that then adobe realize. [15:49] fire|bird: how much I'm i worth ? :P [15:49] just some feathers. ;) [15:49] am * [15:49] fire|bird: freebird! [15:49] deco: How much are you worth? Umm, do they make half a penny these days? :) [15:49] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] fire|bird: :(, Camarade_Tux says I'm special . shuddap [15:50] Found a cool four-way comparison between Icewm - Fluxbox - Openbox - Pekwm :: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/a-comparison-of-four-window-managers/ [15:50] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:50] deco: yeah, special needs. :P [15:50] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [15:51] i tattoo'ed lines across and through the barcode [15:51] fire|bird: pffft [15:51] it looks like a skull now [15:53] ... [15:53] .... [15:53] .... [15:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-125.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:54] goes to burn.. slackware and try to install.. ;) see you guys soon ;) [15:54] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] deco: DUDE, you fail. :P It should have been ..... [15:54] thanks again everybody [15:54] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:54] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@adsl292-82.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [15:54] fire|bird: no it looks like a space ship.. [15:56] openbox wins >.> [15:56] deco: The one that abducted you and caused your current issues? :P [15:56] Necos: why? [15:56] it just does lol [15:57] I can haz a reason why? :P [15:57] refer to aforementioned (albit dated) article [15:57] fire|bird: don't remind me of the nal probe :( [15:57] anal* [15:58] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.9) left irc: "Leaving." [15:58] deco: TMI, TMI, TMI :P [15:58] ewww [15:59] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-139-54.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:59] hey [15:59] deco and fire|bird don't fight well. you need much training [15:59] :P [15:59] gotta tell someone :( [15:59] someone can help me hosting xfce packages [15:59] i have just compiled? [15:59] Lord_Khelben: :P [15:59] acidtripper: how many ? [15:59] acidtripper: what kind of xfce packages? [15:59] Lord_Khelben: There was a fight? [15:59] acidtripper: what xfce packages ? slackware already includes xfce [16:00] there are already official xfce packages [16:00] he has special ones... [16:00] acidtripper: and why should we trust your packages? [16:00] short bus special ones probably. [16:00] you guys weren't here when he got helps with that [16:00] you can uncompress it and see what it is [16:00] pmvalente (n=pmv@a213-22-60-154.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] lol BP{k} [16:00] are packages for kwort a slackware based distro [16:00] acidtripper: uhm ... who cares about those? [16:00] acidtripper: how big ? [16:00] www.kwort.org [16:00] or nomius.ath.cx/wiki [16:01] 23mb [16:01] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [16:01] so... they're useless for slackware users [16:01] acidtripper: how long will you need the hosting ? [16:01] BP if you dont care just shut up [16:01] some days [16:01] hmmm [16:01] acidtripper: if you don't run slackware, how about just gtfo. [16:02] acidtripper: send them to me via some file hosting site like wiki send [16:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:02] acidtripper, BP{k} is a respected slackware user / contributor... so how about you shut up :) [16:02] rapidshare etc.. [16:02] ok [16:02] but, he have to be more respectful with other people [16:02] not really... you're asking about something not slackware related [16:02] i dont knod bp, but he talked me in a rude way [16:02] acidtripper: How about you first show some respect and then *maybe* you'll be respected. [16:03] slackware based man [16:03] slackware based != slackware [16:03] so it's related to slackware [16:03] acidtripper: I am respectful enouugh. But for the last couple of days, you have been asking about slax, kwort, *anything* but slackware. And Slackware based is not slackware. [16:03] it's not slackware, so it's not slackware related [16:03] slax never [16:04] slack based? its a trap! http://imagebin.org/66685 [16:04] y0 slackytude [16:05] heya slackytude [16:05] y0 y0 dudes [16:05] hows it hanging [16:05] acidtripper: I think rworkman said it better than I can: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1165 [16:06] im uplouding to mediafire [16:06] another "slakware based" distro. why people don't just send Pat ideas and patches and contribute to Slack and they reinvent the wheel [16:06] acidtripper: k , is it just for you ? [16:06] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-125.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:06] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-169-39.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:07] lol ok so if i cut one of my feet off i guess im not human anymore cuz i dont have 4 feet [16:07] same thing as ubuntu is debian based. but ubuntu is not debian :P right?:) [16:07] not, for the developer [16:07] im trying to send it by gmail but it sucks [16:07] Lord_Khelben: well, from what little I know about Slax... it's a different animal from Slackware. It's designed as a live CD/DVD, not a standard OS you install on your hard drive like Slack [16:07] acidtripper: just send him the mediafire link then ? [16:07] Urchlay: yes, but vectorlinux zenwalk and now kwort ? [16:08] LOL [16:08] Lord_Khelben: I dunno about those [16:08] slax is nice tho [16:08] mm, or send the link to you? and then send the link to him [16:09] acidtripper: no you send link the to him.... [16:09] the link* [16:09] acidtripper: pm ? [16:09] maybe acidtripper is really ag3ntugly [16:09] ok, so you'r not going to host it [16:09] Necos? [16:09] you know you hang out on irc too much when you are three times in the first page on noobfarm [16:09] what are you trying to do? to make me hangry? [16:10] I guess I should get a hobby [16:10] oh god i shall never help another person.... [16:10] lol [16:10] :P [16:10] dfhetyhwsrth (n=sxfg@212.183.136.193) left irc: "Dont know were im going" [16:10] lol [16:11] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-128-92.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [16:11] acidtripper, i'm not trying to make you angry. if you get angry in the process of me making fun of you, it's a bonus. [16:11] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-7-56.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] if the problem is that i dont talk about slackware, let me explain that this is a kinda project for me [16:12] let me explain that i don't give a shit about your project :) [16:12] torrenting slack64 [16:13] compiling some packages for kwort, which is a simple distro and the developer gave me the chance to introduce the packages i want [16:13] btw, fred's script and eric's script are the same thing [16:13] if you notice, the script is copyright by fred and eric both [16:13] can we just get an op to kick him? [16:13] linke lighttpd xfce, etc [16:13] why? [16:13] any reason to kick me? [16:13] becouse im telling you my projects? [16:14] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.176.253) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:14] and i asked for some help? your the kind of linux user who make others use other OS [16:14] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] stygian_ (n=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-97.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] because you're annoying people with your useless project. [16:15] :) [16:15] hows rt61 support in slack 13? specificall rt2561? [16:15] acidtripper, question... [16:15] acidtripper: kind of you to inform us of your projects. but nobody here is obliged to help you [16:15] take it easy, girls. make love not war [16:15] ok, nobody helped me [16:16] im with slackytude [16:16] acidtripper, you come ask us n00b questions, then proclaim to be working on a project that is NOT n00b [16:16] acidtripper: i tried but you are giving this more attention .. then my help... [16:16] stygian_ (n=stygian@ppp-70-129-230-97.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:16] yes deco is the only one [16:17] is not a noob project, and if its noob is my project and the way i can reald [16:17] learn* [16:17] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (86% of Full) [16:18] you can do LFS and learn a lot more [16:18] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] i asked for help, if you wanna help...ok . if you don't want don't cricise [16:18] they have plenty of documentation available. [16:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [16:18] [TWR] (n=twr@216.80-202-241.nextgentel.com) left ##slackware. [16:19] yes, good idea... but i have to start with something [16:19] acidtripper, exactly, the project is not noob, but your questions are [16:19] I'm hungry [16:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] i rest my case and go drink a beer :P [16:19] maybe, [16:19] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@host47-56-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Lord_Khelben: haha [16:19] acidtripper won't understand [16:19] woot Lord_Khelben, pass me one :P [16:20] acidtripper, and, honestly, you're asking for someone to hold your hand where the more accepted method of embarking on such an ambitious idea is to take the long path(rtfm) [16:20] Action: slackytude jumps up and down [16:20] bee [16:20] beer [16:20] i bought a 24-pack (4 sixpacks) yesterday :) [16:20] acidtripper, i have a sign above my computer desk, and do you know what that sign says? [16:21] Action: fire|bird orders a truck-o-beer to deliver to the channel. [16:21] acidtripper, "R T F M" [16:21] thats okey, but with people like you i won't go any place [16:21] what? [16:21] what rtfm is? [16:21] lol [16:21] read the fucking manual [16:21] or the fine manual [16:21] lol [16:21] jajaja [16:21] acidtripper, Read The Fscking Manual [16:21] Lord_Khelben: Well, depends on who wrote it. :P [16:21] ok, but i was asking for some host for some packages [16:22] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:22] not helping me on compiling them [16:22] nobody here knows you, why would we give you free web hosting? [16:22] I'm not trying to be insulting or anything, but that's basically what you're asking for, isn't it? [16:22] i thought opensource=openmind people [16:22] acidtripper: besides the "free hosting" the packages aren't for slackware and even if they were [16:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] but i see opensource=closeminded people [16:23] we see you = cheap person [16:23] as Urchlay nobody knows you. you might pute malware on the packages [16:23] s/pute/put/ [16:23] acidtripper, no, opensource = anti-stupidity [16:23] Lord are you stupid? if i put malware is simple to see it [16:23] as Urchlay said. grr i omitted half the words [16:23] acidtripper: no, eh, we don't know you, how can we tell whether your packages are safe for people to use? You might look into submitting your build scripts to slackbuilds.org, that's the standard way to do it [16:23] http://sweet.nodns4.us [16:23] acidtripper: I respectfully ask you to stop this pointless lobby for a distro that does not belong in this channel [16:23] when you unpackage [16:24] alienBOB, thanks [16:24] ok [16:24] there is no easy way to check for malware [16:24] If you need hosting, do not ask here, go to a hosting provider or use mediafire [16:24] ok, thanks [16:24] to everybody [16:24] wait, huh, he's not even talking about packagse for slackware? [16:24] If you want people to test your packages for kwort, go ask people that actually run kwort [16:24] Action: Urchlay scratches head [16:25] Urchlay: nope :P [16:25] Urchlay: hehe no he is talking about kwort [16:25] Urchlay, no, he's talking about packages for some oddball distro i've never heard of [16:25] "slackware based" [16:25] Lord_Khelben, slackware based != slackware [16:26] this discussion would more aptly fit into a generic linux channel [16:26] acidtripper: try asking someone in #ubuntu, you'll be as likely to get a positive response as you would be in here [16:26] cool people in this channel [16:26] kwort, that name alone sounds like either a kde app or something that needs to be removed. :P [16:26] nyRednek: [23:03:15] slackware based != slackware [16:26] no [16:26] is not kde [16:26] _CtrlAltCa_ (n=fabio@87.13.89.196) joined ##slackware. [16:26] I know, I was joking, I know what it is. [16:26] kwort sounds like an old-school MUD [16:26] is a distro, for advanced users [16:26] with openbox [16:27] nomius.ath.cx/wiki [16:27] take a look [16:27] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Lord_Khelben, parallel invention ;) [16:27] advanced users know how to install openbox on slackware, if they want... [16:27] No thanks, I use slackware and am very happy with it. :) [16:27] yes but i want to have xfce packages [16:27] Go firebird! [16:27] I know Nomius, and he's a nice guy, and he's the dev of ktsuss. KWort is still not Slackware and is thus offtopic here. [16:28] acidtripper, in case you didn't know(obviously you didn't), slackware includes xfce [16:28] acidtripper: tell him he needs to do a little more work on his site before you spam his distro in here: "To continue setting up PmWiki, see initial setup tasks. " [16:28] i know you rworkman some time ago we talked about a server [16:28] i had to donate some money [16:28] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [16:28] to slackware, and you were going to send me an old machine [16:28] Action: slackmagic burps [16:28] Yes, long ago. [16:28] acidtripper, and, as you see, none of us give a rat's ass about your distro [16:28] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:bb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] yess [16:28] hey slackmagic, how are you? [16:28] long [16:29] fire|bird: doing well buddy. How are ya? [16:29] nyRednek, if you'r going to be unrespecful just shut your fucnkg ass [16:29] and is not my distro [16:29] Okay, this discussion needs to die now before people start getting kicked. Enough. [16:29] this is degenerating even further... [16:29] slackmagic: great, thanks. Going to do another clean install today, once things get backed up, gsb leaves a mess and I want it gone. [16:30] ok [16:30] conv eded [16:30] ended [16:30] Good. name calling does not help anyone [16:30] i will ask for some hosting or help in another channel [16:30] fire|bird: why clean install ? [16:30] acidtripper, be respectful by not spamming your distro in a channel dedicated to another distro [16:31] fire|bird: yeah..i'm going to play with gsb in a vm slack13.0 when i have time, for now fluxbox/xfce will do fine [16:31] and recycle! [16:31] lol [16:31] Lord_Khelben: I removed gsb and it leaves junk in /etc, leaves rc.scripts behind, and I don't know what else, so I figured a clean install would work better. If I looked closer, I could probably remove it myself, but. :P [16:31] nyRednek, let's not perpetuate it [16:31] im not spamming, and i'll not talk again [16:31] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] slackmagic: do you run fluxbox on top of xfce? [16:31] Necos, ok.. [16:31] Lord_Khelben: I'd normally use gware, but it's version wasn't the one I needed for what I was working on. :P [16:31] Necos, i shut up to acidDropper now [16:31] fire|bird: pretty much any package that installs rc.d scripts, leaves them behind (because they usually get installed as config files) [16:31] fire|bird: ah ok :( when i last compiled gnome i used find /|sort > pre-gnome first [16:31] the one who spam is you [16:32] esoteric: no, but i switch between the two to try more things out in xfce / or sometimes run xfce apps on top of flux [16:32] slackmagic: ever play with openbox? [16:32] Urchlay: yeah, and those alone are easy enough, but it leaves gnome dirs in /etc/ etc, so it makes me wonder, what else has it left behind. The system is running great though, so I don't necessarily *need* a clean install. [16:32] easy enough to remove* [16:32] esoteric: nope, but i've seen and heard some great things about it [16:33] acidtripper, stop it too [16:33] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:33] Lord_Khelben: haha, yeah, that would have been a good idea probably. :P [16:33] I didn't think of it though. [16:33] slackmagic: yeah, I'm a fluxbox guy too, but was curious about openbox... looks even simpler than fluxbox [16:34] fire|bird: if you run find now and then diff the output against MANIFEST, won't it give you all the not-slackware-provided files ? [16:34] fire|bird: you can probably grep the doinst.sh scripts for all the gsb packages with something like... grep '\.new$' [16:34] Lord_Khelben: I plan, today, to toss slack 13 in a VM, so I could use that to compare and see what, if any differences, there still are. [16:34] getting ready to move back to slack from debian [16:34] Lord_Khelben: Hmm, yeah, I bet I could. I'll give that a shot. [16:34] esoteric: we all know: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I just never had the need to switch to something else. Been using flux for years [16:34] wubbster (n=wubbster@doc-24-206-157-137.kw.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] fire|bird: it will also include your own files too but you'll get an idea of what files are left [16:35] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Urchlay: yeah, I was gonna look into that after a bit, my backup just finished so I can look around a bit more now that that's done. [16:35] slackmagic: flux is nice. [16:35] fire|bird, that's my attitude about fvwm [16:35] Lord_Khelben: yeah, that's a good idea, thank you. [16:35] esoteric: fire|bird has tried them all i believe but he still likes flux :D [16:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] openbox is awesome [16:36] :) [16:36] hi guys, whatever happened to Pat? Last I heard he had a gnarly infection of some kind [16:36] the wifey got used to kde instead of gnome(baruch hashem) so i don't have to deal with saxa's mess [16:36] thats years ago afaik [16:36] Necos: have you used fluxbox for any significant time? [16:36] slackytude: true, it was [16:36] yeah, was about tyo say/...news from years ago [16:36] slackmagic: I installed gsb just to try screenlets, which unfortunately needs alot of gnome stuff, so it was easier to actually install gnome instead of tracking down each thing. [16:36] nope [16:36] lol [16:36] Nick change: keres_ -> keres [16:37] mikinanuq, he is doing good. was here a couoke of times when 13 was close to release [16:37] couple [16:37] cool [16:37] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:37] slackmagic: and yes, fluxbox is excellent. I've been messing with xfce and kde4 lately, but flux is certainly a favorite of mine, and I have indeed pretty much tried them all. [16:37] Dito (i=570f2b22@gateway/web/freenode/x-mqonhyzixrhrnjsf) joined ##slackware. [16:37] lol slackytude.... http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1705 [16:37] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427644.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] Necos, its true :| [16:38] lol [16:38] i liked fluxbox and openbox very much. very low cpu utilization but if we take into accounts some programs like filemanager,browser,etc i think its better to use xfce,kde etc [16:38] slackmagic, fire|bird: do you know of any configuration manager for fluxbox that is close to the equivalent of the openbox configuration manager? [16:38] fire|bird: tried fvwm-crystal ? [16:38] hi, how can i upgrade alsa-drive on slackware64 13 ? thanks [16:38] fluxbox+thunar+etc ~= xfce [16:39] esoteric: I usually just vim them configs hehe [16:39] konq is nice [16:39] esoteric: No I don't, I have always just edited the files themselves. I think there are a few out there though. [16:39] Lord_Khelben: I've been using kde4 mostly lately, with each release it just keeps getting better, faster, bugs are getting knocked down left and right. :P [16:40] kde4, it haunts [16:40] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] but for some reason its pretty stable now [16:40] slackmagic: Well, tis the month of Halloween :P [16:40] disabled compiz [16:40] bah, use kde4 kwin effects. :) [16:40] uptime is more than a week now, with hibernate [16:40] fire|bird: tab fail [16:40] slackytude: and looks good http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 :D [16:40] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:40] fire|bird, meant that [16:41] slackmagic: whoops, sorry. :P [16:41] ooohh right [16:41] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:41] gothic party! [16:41] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [16:41] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-253-47.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:41] slackytude: let me get my eyeliner [16:41] wait, you have eyeliner? [16:42] I shall juggle in front of the club ^-^ [16:42] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [16:42] fire|bird: when i rock out [16:42] with me magic balls, which shine in the night [16:42] to Kamelot? [16:42] fire|bird: what else ? :P [16:42] lol [16:43] so i got 2 of my close friends hooked up to slackware now. They've never used linux before: "Wow this is fast! I can use my 6 years old system again!" It really makes me smile internally :) [16:43] rock on! [16:43] praise the lord \o/ [16:43] slackmagic: awesome [16:43] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@host47-56-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] have they sacrified a goat yet? [16:44] slackytude: hmmm i think a lolcat [16:44] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] gotta do that for becoming a true slacker [16:44] or so I was told :| [16:44] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [16:44] for what they do on the computers, Linux/GNU is more than capable of providing that and then some more [16:44] but try telling that the cops [16:44] fire|bird: i need some black nail polish.... [16:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:44] deco, dont overdue it [16:44] deco: slackytude has a whole stash of it. [16:44] fire|bird: k [16:45] lies! [16:45] slackytude: gimme some [16:45] alsaconf, can configure my soundcard, and alsamix show the volume at 80%, but the pc is mute... [16:45] slackytude: funny you mentioned goat...one is from nepal, the other one from india and the do eat goat meat hehe [16:45] haha [16:45] any idea? [16:45] slackmagic, magic I guess [16:45] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:45] Dito, hardware? [16:45] yep [16:45] fire|bird: hmmm i got dark hair already... [16:45] Dito: all channels are unmuted ? [16:45] Dito: PCM and main are both unmuted? [16:45] Dito, i have a stupid suggestion, have you checked your cables? [16:46] deco: all ya need is a record contract. :P [16:46] fire|bird: hellz yeah :P [16:46] Action: Lord_Khelben dcc sends black nail polish to deco [16:46] nyRednek: is a laptop [16:46] Lord_Khelben: thanks ^^ [16:46] Dito: you're in the audio group? [16:46] Dito, ah...then we check that you're in the audio group, all channels unmuted, etc [16:46] fire|bird: no, but is the same with root [16:47] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] Dito: still, your user should be in the audio group. [16:47] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] fire|bird: never add user in audio group with all slackware that i used [16:48] Dito: main/master, pcm, front all should be unmuted and have the volume up [16:48] fire|bird: hmmm i need to get pale... i have a hard tan right now.... [16:48] Dito: Well, you need to be if you want audio to work. [16:48] deco: stop going outside, you'll be white as a ghost. [16:48] hardware problem [16:48] fire|bird: but with root don't work [16:48] fire|bird: ok :) [16:49] deco: why you need to get pale ? [16:49] Dito: It could be a hardware issue, has sound worked on this laptop before? [16:49] Lord_Khelben: He's gonna be a rock star. [16:49] the pc is hp dv32020el, and device id is 0x293e [16:49] Lord_Khelben: yeah what fire|bird said.. [16:49] :) [16:49] lol [16:49] Dito: are all the channels unmuted ? also see what mako-sama said [16:49] fire|bird: is a clean slackware.... i used only with vista [16:49] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] Dito: that wasn't my question. :) Has sound worked before on this same computer? [16:50] also check dmesg sometimes there are autodetection problems (especially with laptops) [16:50] alsa log is always filled with "added model foo for laptop bar" [16:50] scrote (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] hi [16:50] deco: Which record label ya gonna audition for? :P [16:50] fire|bird: hmmmm a big one.... sony ? [16:50] i installed a program by compiling it. make uninstall yeilds an error. how do i uninstall programs that were installed via make install ? [16:51] heh [16:51] with make uninstall [16:51] deco: Sony/BMG? :P [16:51] this is why you should make a package [16:51] make: [uninstall] Error 1 (ignored) [16:51] fire|bird: yes :P [16:51] scrote: don't install with make install. this makes uninstalling/upgrading difficult [16:51] you should learn how to make slackware packages [16:51] fire|bird: hopefully they can put a band together for me :P [16:52] scrote, pretty much out of luck. you could try to make install again, in a different DESTDIR, look what files it touches and remove them from / [16:52] deco: I can see it now Headlining the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.....Deco and the Slackers. :P [16:52] are you guys talking about slackbuilds ? [16:52] some lines of bash magic [16:52] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:52] scrote, those as well [16:52] fire|bird: hahahaha :) [16:52] well they slackbuilds provide a developmental version of wine. [16:53] is that just as good? [16:53] scrote: do what slackytude said. run make DESTDIR=/tmp/testdir install [16:53] fire|bird: gotta practice my guitar playing ... been a while :P [16:53] then look at /tmp/testdir to see what files got installed there [16:53] deco: Just know now, that if you do indeed use that name, I came up with it, I get 20% :P [16:53] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.59) left irc: No route to host [16:53] fire|bird: he can't use that name [16:54] mako-sama: master is unmute, but at bottom of PCM no have any letter.. (OO or MM) [16:54] fire|bird: credits---> fire|bird for his wisdome [16:54] scrote, there is an easy way of telling if its good. if slackbuild.hosted()=="slackbuilds.org" then quality ="good" [16:54] s/wisdome/wisdom/ [16:54] Dito: what about 'front'? [16:54] fire|bird: grrrr :P [16:54] Guest8200 (n=bruno@177.236.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] scrote, but you can usually change the source of the slackbuild as well [16:54] Lord_Khelben: How come? The Slackers part? :P [16:54] and for being an annoying mofo :P [16:54] fire|bird: yes [16:55] Guest8200 (n=bruno@177.236.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:55] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] deco: Well, if your gonna give credit, spell the words right instead of sounding like a stupid rock star. :P [16:55] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:55] fire|bird: well they have people for that ok... [16:55] deco: my ex-gf sings pretty nice and is goth. i can lend her to you for the band :P [16:55] as opposed to smart rock stars? [16:55] Lord_Khelben: oh nice dude lol [16:55] pics [16:55] mako-sama: this is what i have... Master Headphon PCM IEC958 P IEC958 P Analog L Analog L Digital [16:55] Lord_Khelben: i need a singer asap :P [16:55] deco: haha, get some cute dancers, Deco and the Slackettes. :P (I know it can't be used, just having fun) [16:55] pics or it didnt happen [16:56] scrote: the easiest way to remove a program you installed with 'make install' is to make a package out of the same source, install that package, then remove it [16:56] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Slackettes could be used, no? [16:56] fire|bird: :P, ill get some cute backup singers :P [16:56] \o/ [16:56] i will only play epic songs.. [16:56] Action: fire|bird will be stage manager. :P [16:56] fire|bird: yes but no birds ok :P [16:57] Action: nyRednek will be the opening act [16:57] unless the song is about birds [16:57] Action: slackytude can be the fanboy [16:57] \o/ [16:57] Im good at that [16:57] go deco! [16:57] and Camarade_Tux can be my groupie [16:57] deco: and, all the equipment had better be running Slackware. :P [16:57] fire|bird: yes :P [16:57] damn ignorants! I knew deco back when he was still underground [16:57] Dito: it's possible that alsa identified more than one device as a 'soundcard'.. it's probably using the wrong one now [16:57] slackytude: woooo \m/ [16:58] he totally went mainstream and sold out [16:58] lol [16:58] yup and started using windows :P [16:58] OHGODWHY? [16:58] oy! [16:58] for his recording sessions [16:58] Action: nyRednek shoots the windows-using hypocrite [16:58] Dito: who do you test the sound ? [16:58] Dito: i've seen similar prolems caused by some modems [16:58] lol [16:58] and all his music videos were produced by Windows Movie Maker [16:58] the price of fame :( [16:58] probabyl cos he hasnt time to slack anymore coz of the female groupies [16:58] fire|bird: ohgodno [16:58] run as root aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav [16:58] and little Kylie became his manager. :P [16:58] slackytude: yeah exactly [16:59] fire|bird: o_O [16:59] ^-^ [16:59] lol [16:59] rapid_ (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Lord_Khelben: # play audio.wav [16:59] kdenlive is better than anything i've seen on windows for making videos [16:59] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-185.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] kdenlive? [16:59] kdenlive is awesome [16:59] slackytude: video editing [16:59] grrrr haven't played on stage for like 3 years now [16:59] slackytude, yeah, video editor [16:59] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@154.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [16:59] oy [17:00] my first and last true great show was when i won my highschools telent show ^^ [17:00] was 16 [17:00] deco: All your tour videos produced by Windows DVD Maker. Party invites sent out via Windows Live Mail. :P [17:00] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.66.170) joined ##slackware. [17:00] fire|bird: lol [17:00] fire|bird, he'd be killed on his tour bus [17:01] you sure aren't talented at spelling. s/telent/talent/ [17:01] lol [17:01] fire|bird: was thinking of telnet ok ? [17:01] lol [17:01] lol [17:01] heh [17:01] Action: deco is a horrible speller in any language [17:01] fire|bird, if he abandons slack, it must be for something with more testosterone [17:01] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:02] fire|bird, then we'll port slack to that platform [17:02] lol [17:02] .... [17:02] :) [17:02] fire|bird, we don't have slack for the z series minicomputer yet [17:02] fire|bird, nor for mips [17:03] fire|bird, nor sparc, iirc [17:03] amigaslack :) [17:03] thought there was a sparc port [17:03] no, Im thinking alpha [17:03] Lord_Khelben, i think we have it for ppc, but not for m68k [17:03] uhm .. there is Splack. [17:03] was, long time ago -_- [17:03] mako-sama: http://www.pastebin.ca/1602447 [17:04] deco: This would sound better, All videos, banners, flyers created with Slackware Linux; video screens controlled by Slackware Linux. :D [17:04] fire|bird, and you could use midi control codes to trigger video screens(pad controllers) [17:04] fire|bird: indeed :D [17:04] Dito: dmesg paste ? [17:04] nyRednek: yeah, that'd be awesome [17:05] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-233-199.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] fire|bird, i got the replacement pad controller coming in the mail [17:05] /tmp/testdir is empty after running make install [17:05] nyRednek: sweet [17:05] i was too lazy to take the bus all the way to the mall [17:05] scrote, what did you do? [17:05] scrote: if you just ran make install ofcourse it is empty [17:06] did you also put the DESTDIR=/tmp/testdir i mentioned [17:06] fire|bird, ordered the black one this time [17:06] fire|bird, looks sleeker [17:06] fire|bird, and matches my compaq [17:06] for the ones that haven't had the honor of hearing me play ---> http://wikisend.com/download/914404/00 - Unknown - guitar improvisation.mp3 [17:06] ah, unknown [17:06] good name [17:07] slackytude: ^^ [17:07] i'm trying not to record a song that keeps resurfacing in my mind... [17:07] Lord_Khelben: no help in dmesg... any word like audio, sound or snd.... [17:08] Dito: that doesn't make sense. there should be some info [17:09] samuelig (n=samuelig@249.pool85-57-159.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Connection timed out [17:09] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:09] echo $DESTDIR ; says /tmp/testdir [17:09] search for hda and HDA [17:09] scrote: don't export it. run it along with make [17:09] "scrote: do what slackytude said. run make DESTDIR=/tmp/testdir install" [17:09] oh [17:10] yep [17:10] what program is that ? [17:10] altho, to be fair, some dont honor DESTDIR flasg [17:10] flag [17:10] ok [17:10] yes some (few nowadays) don't honor it [17:11] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] programs that use simple makefiles and not autotools/cmake don't [17:11] so what ever it put in testdir, remove under / [17:11] fire|bird: i can imagin you screaming like a girl while i play that tune :P [17:11] thanx [17:11] archimandritax (n=locus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] scrote, or make a pkg out of it [17:11] scrote, and uninstall that [17:11] scrote: yes don't use rm -rf though. remove them one by one [17:11] to avoid mistakes [17:11] right [17:11] rm -rf is fun-e :P [17:12] olny the first time [17:12] hi slackers good night [17:12] good night archimandritax [17:12] archimandritax: 'lo. [17:12] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-122-72.multimo.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] Lord_Khelben: http://www.pastebin.ca/1602475 [17:17] any project can need the unused time of my internet conection? or any ideas I ofuscate whit this question.. [17:17] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-163-6.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] O_O [17:17] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:17] archimandritax: Folding@Home, SETI? etc. there are plenty of BOINC/distributed computing projects out there. [17:18] Dito: you are right. not much info about HDA [17:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:18] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [17:18] fire|bird: wb [17:18] deco: thanks [17:18] Lord_Khelben: but if upgrada alsa drive to newer version? [17:19] fire|bird: i need some tight pants... [17:19] s/upgrada/upgrade/ [17:19] sound jacks registering input events. weird [17:19] hmmmm [17:19] deco: don't worry, Necos has some. [17:19] fire|bird: nice! [17:19] no, i want to have children eventually [17:19] hahaha [17:19] lol [17:19] Action: deco doesn't want children.. [17:19] Necos: that's why you can give them to deco [17:20] Dito:since the card is already recognised the problem is probably something else so i don't think upgrading alsa will help. don't know for sure though [17:20] yup [17:20] ^^ [17:20] that's why i don't own them in the first place :P [17:20] stupid rumors. scientists come with a different theory every day [17:20] a black slackware shirt might look good too [17:20] it does! [17:20] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "..." [17:20] yeah espcially when rocking out [17:21] deco: the human race thanks you. Now if only Kanye West would come to that same conclusion. [17:21] I was out on friday with me slack shirt [17:21] "if you wear tight pants you can't have children" [17:21] deco, aye! [17:21] if you ride motorbikes the same. if you have cats the same [17:21] oh geez, stfu about that guy already... the president already called him an ass, so leave it be [17:21] esoteric: go listen to some pixies or somethign [17:21] something* [17:21] then nobody would be able to have children [17:21] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:21] Action: esoteric returns to his world [17:21] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] short hair for me ^^ like roy from kamelot [17:22] lol [17:22] nah [17:22] slackytude: you got nice hair [17:22] O_o [17:22] I do? [17:23] I'm too lazy to take care of mine... [17:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [17:23] so short is better [17:23] hmm [17:23] and I'm probably going bold soon... [17:23] deco: rock star with short hair ? [17:23] like Kirk? [17:24] he went boldly [17:24] slackytude: ewww no from the forehead [17:24] to boldly bone what no man has boned before? [17:24] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-166-52.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] hahaha [17:24] Lord_Khelben: yeah look at roy from kamelot epic singer [17:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: [17:24] Urchlay, great plan [17:24] to seek out strange new life... and have sex with it! [17:24] seems /SET autolog ON doesnt get saved in irssi config [17:25] Urchlay: if you take the average groupie in consideration .. you know how true your statements are. ;) [17:25] sexiest man alive --> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Roy_Khan_2.jpg [17:25] Catoptromancy: it may need to be "yes" [17:25] Lord_Khelben: ^ [17:25] lol BP{k} [17:25] can only imagine what kinda groupies Shatner attracts [17:25] lol [17:25] deco: i hope its not a picture of some 60yr old fat man :P [17:25] hopefully they don't have that retarded pause in their speech :P [17:25] Lord_Khelben: nah :P [17:25] Urchlay: The 50-75 demographic? [17:25] Lord_Khelben: roh kahn! [17:25] Catoptromancy: at least that's how it is in my .irssi/config [17:25] roy* [17:25] fire|bird: eh, these days, probably [17:26] NaCl: using guide and main windows replies that its turned on [17:26] deco: looks more like roy from seigfried and roy than a rockstar [17:26] deco: least sexy man alive you mean :P [17:26] Lord_Khelben: pffft [17:26] KAAAAAAHHN! [17:26] esoteric: pixies anymore ? [17:26] slackytude: he's from norway :P [17:26] ahhh it got saved to config.autosave [17:26] deco: no music right now :( [17:26] esoteric: :( [17:26] Action: Catoptromancy tests [17:26] from hell's heart I spit at thee... [17:27] deco, thought he was some kind of klingon [17:27] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] deco: even roy from it crowd is better than him :P [17:27] Urchlay, aye! [17:27] slackytude: you mean oliver kahn :P [17:27] Catoptromancy: is it in .irssi/config.autosave? [17:27] bah [17:27] deco, lol [17:27] deco, no [17:27] Lord_Khelben: what ever [17:27] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] :P [17:27] deco, altho he lookd like one [17:27] looks [17:27] Catoptromancy: success? [17:27] slackytude: yeah , he was my hero :( [17:27] sniff [17:27] deco, he had some great games [17:27] i think so [17:27] slackytude: yup [17:27] big mofo :) [17:28] helluva good keeper [17:28] its still making irclogs directory in ~/ [17:28] rather in ~/.irssi [17:28] sexiest man alive: http://images2.makefive.com/images/200837/cde891aabd2aeb65.jpg [17:28] stupid star trek trivia... in Star Trek II, Khan meets Chekhov and says "I never forget a face"... but in the episode of the show where Khan first meets the Enterprise crew, Chekhov wasn't even there (his character doesn't join the show until like season 2) [17:28] Urchlay: wrong kahn ... [17:28] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [17:28] Urchlay: that's correct [17:28] Impressive. [17:28] Urchlay: always bothered me [17:28] Action: NaCl didn't know that [17:29] jesus esoteric , im trying to eat [17:29] esoteric: ohgod [17:29] Urchlay, nice obscure fact [17:29] But Wrath of Khan is still the best Star Trek Motion Picture [17:29] everyone click on esoteric's link now! [17:29] so I'm not the only one who's a big enough nerd to be annoyed by that... [17:29] cute cats omg [17:29] esoteric: definitely [17:29] Scuzz, Deco: lol [17:29] cutest cat ever [17:29] esoteric: paste it again [17:29] damn that cat is cute [17:29] Urchlay, cant be nerdier than people here. [17:29] http://images2.makefive.com/images/200837/cde891aabd2aeb65.jpg [17:30] Urchlay, in here, you are just above average id say [17:30] dudes , that's nice cat ^& [17:30] HAHAAHAHAHA [17:30] That is a weird looking cat, eh? [17:30] ewww, that was sorta NSFW [17:30] sweet I think I got this [17:30] Action: Urchlay fails to click on that link no matter how many times it's pasted [17:30] Necos: lol [17:30] Necos: yes, luckily my boss has a sense of humor because he walked around the corner while i still had it up [17:31] esoteric: o_O [17:31] esoteric: does he have special needs ? [17:31] deco: the boss? :P [17:31] deco: no, he's pretty cool [17:31] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl6-39.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:31] it's probably 2lemons1cupse.cx [17:31] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:31] esoteric: ok too bad [17:31] fire|bird: yes :P [17:31] Actually, he probably has a crush on the Hoff [17:31] Urchlay: hahahaha [17:31] esoteric: oh ok i thought maybe he.... [17:32] He does have like 10 knight rider posters in his office [17:32] esoteric: you be careful now [17:32] eh, a grown man with 10 knight rider posters in his office? [17:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:32] lol [17:32] is he german? [17:32] lol [17:32] guten tag! [17:33] knight rider owns [17:33] hey jeev, lol [17:33] sup [17:33] the other day I was driving around & saw a semi with "knight transportation" [17:33] knight rider owns, but I think KITT is way hotter than the hoff [17:33] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [17:33] jeev, you've been immortalized on noobfarm lol [17:33] and a chess piece logo, on the trailer [17:33] /whois is not logging [17:33] Urchlay, that would scare :P [17:33] thats rather important [17:33] and my first thought was to look around for a black camaro with a glowing red eye... [17:33] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:34] (or trans-am, or whatever kinda car kitt was) [17:34] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [17:34] how [17:34] Knight Industries Two-Thousand [17:34] jeev: check noobfarm [17:34] lol [17:34] Weyland Yutani [17:35] esoteric: so is KITT's AI open source? [17:35] slackytude: Aliens [17:35] Necos: that was fast , it happened this morning lol [17:35] KARR runs Windows, that's why he turned evil [17:35] lol [17:35] ^ one of my favorites [17:35] esoteric, ^-^ [17:35] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:35] Cyberdine systems [17:35] slackytude: Terminator [17:35] :) [17:35] hmm [17:35] Blue Sun? [17:35] scrote (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:36] slackytude: +1 for firefly reference [17:36] eh, i dont really care. straterra is a self loathing homosexual with nothing better to do than harass me. i think he's into me too.. i'm not gay [17:36] how would I go about logging the main window where all the /whois info is [17:36] Urchlay, ^-^ [17:36] lol [17:36] /set autolog all doesnt do that [17:36] I'm hot for the Aliens movie and Firefly [17:36] Aliens! [17:36] Tyrell Corporation [17:36] Sigourney Weaver++ [17:36] jeev be cafefull :( [17:37] ran command from tutotial but it didnt work [17:37] slackytude: I want more life, f(ath|uck)er! [17:37] Urchlay, ++ [17:37] why deco [17:37] I've got the directors cut with a cool scene with sentry guns [17:37] which does he really say though? father or fucker? [17:37] Urchlay, excellent respones [17:37] Urchlay, good question [17:37] both would apply, I guess. But Id say "father" is more likely [17:38] yeah [17:38] Slackytude Bladerunner!!!! [17:38] esoteric, that took some time [17:38] as there's pretty much no cussing anywhere else in the movie [17:38] esoteric, :P [17:38] 300 my latest fav movie [17:38] ;) [17:38] out of companies now [17:38] wait [17:38] Jupiter Mining Coperation [17:38] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [17:38] tricky [17:38] slackytude: Red Dwarf [17:39] rofl [17:39] dwarfs ? hobbits? [17:39] can't think of appropriate quote though [17:39] Urchlay does it again [17:39] red dwarf ws funny stuff [17:39] Urchlay, smeghead! [17:39] criw (n=bruno@201.22.31.97.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:39] oh, right [17:39] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.62) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Nick change: Urchlay -> SmegHead [17:39] lol [17:39] Ace Rimmer, at your service! [17:39] Nick change: slackytude -> TheCat [17:39] Action: deco pets TheCat [17:39] Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast! [17:39] SmegHead, you gonna what now? [17:39] TheCat: gonna take you home [17:40] Nick change: SmegHead -> Urchlay [17:40] deco, O_o [17:40] Nick change: TheCat -> Lister [17:40] TheCat: and feed you and cuddle you... [17:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-105-15.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:40] Omni Consumer Products [17:40] saved [17:40] esoteric: hrrr, that sounds familiar [17:40] ^ Robocop [17:40] Robocop [17:40] eh [17:40] US Robots & Metal Men, Inc. [17:40] thanks, night [17:40] Umbrella Corporation [17:40] good night Dito [17:41] Urchlay, I robot? [17:41] er, s/Robots/Robotics/ [17:41] Dito (i=570f2b22@gateway/web/freenode/x-mqonhyzixrhrnjsf) left irc: [17:41] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.62) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] yeah [17:41] Urchlay, something from Asimov anyway [17:41] ahh :) [17:41] 'cept in the 1980s someone really did start a company called US Robotics [17:41] yep, knew that [17:41] (and proceeded to NOT sell any robots!) [17:41] esoteric, that zombie flick [17:41] why when i use "grub" command in the console, returns "/usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory" ? i have it [17:41] esoteric, with the console games... [17:42] Lister: yeah, Resident Evil [17:42] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Necos, you check out smartguard for your blackberry ? [17:42] aye [17:42] Lister: yeah [17:42] find /usr -name grub [17:42] uva (i=bno@220-136-226-71.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] smrtguard [17:42] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:42] Here's a corporation from Deco's favorite movie: White Star Line [17:42] hm. company names... how about General Services? [17:42] esoteric: hmmmmm [17:43] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [17:43] deco: lol [17:43] esoteric, british? [17:43] esoteric: what movie is that > [17:43] ?* [17:43] Titanic [17:43] bah [17:43] esoteric: ohhhhhhhhhhhh [17:43] lol [17:43] k [17:43] j/k [17:43] sounded british [17:43] esoteric: get back to work ? [17:43] Urchlay, no idea [17:43] on it [17:43] esoteric: k :) [17:43] esoteric: :P [17:43] wait! [17:43] actually I think General Services was never in a movie, it's from Robert Heinlein's short stories [17:43] Niven [17:43] you mean Niven [17:44] Starship Troopers? [17:44] nope, that's General Products, but you get a cigar anyway :) [17:44] esoteric: lol [17:44] General Products [17:44] ha [17:44] dark city was suprisingly very good. [17:44] monomolecular ship hulls [17:44] esoteric: /usr/lib/grub and /usr/sbin/grub [17:44] aye [17:44] _CtrlAltCa_ (n=fabio@87.13.89.196) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] 300 and 300 is good [17:44] Urchlay, he did some new books recently [17:44] Urchlay, quite good [17:44] criw: are you running it as root? [17:44] criw: ? [17:44] yah, I read one recently that was a prequel to the known space series (fleet of worlds) [17:45] yep [17:45] series of three I think [17:45] fire|bird: yeah [17:45] who let the dogs out! woof woof! [17:45] Starship Troopers is actually a really good book [17:45] yah, the 2nd one should be out by now [17:45] deco: you did [17:45] I seen you [17:45] esoteric: yes it is [17:45] esoteric, aye [17:45] fire|bird: i don't have pets... sadly... [17:45] Urchlay, uh? I read two of them I think. some time ago [17:45] esoteric: the movie, not so good [17:45] Action: esoteric agrees [17:46] heinlein made great books [17:46] Affirmative [17:46] some bad ones as well, tho [17:46] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-139-54.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:46] fire|bird: you know why i cant run "grub" ? [17:46] also, he was a dirty old man [17:46] that sorta happens to any man who lives long enough [17:46] criw: No, I don't use grub. [17:47] AFK (heading home from work) [17:47] good luck [17:47] criw: can you give us some more detail? what version of slackware are you running, where did you get your grub package, what exactly you did? [17:48] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:48] I guess Soylent Cooperation is too easy [17:48] "It's still made of people! They didn't change the recipe like they said they would!!" [17:48] Action: Lister nods [17:49] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-12-210.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:49] but do you know the name & author of the book that the movie was based on? [17:49] Urchlay: slackware 13 64bits, i get it in slackware dvd, and and i run "grub" in console, returns this error: /usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory [17:49] Urchlay, hrrm [17:49] Urchlay, those who wish to survive [17:49] criw: did you possibly accidentally install a 32-bit grub package? [17:49] Lister: "make room, make room" by Harry Harrison [17:49] actually, thats completly wrong [17:49] no idea [17:50] never heard of it [17:50] Urchlay: probable, 1643 criw> esoteric: /usr/lib/grub and /usr/sbin/grub [17:50] other than changing the name, the movie people stayed pretty close to the book [17:50] Urchlay: hmm.. maybe. wait a minute [17:51] ls /var/log/packages/grub* <--- if that returns anything with i486 in the package name, then you did [17:51] also, "file /usr/sbin/grub" [17:51] For slackware64, there is not even a grub available on the DVD... [17:52] need grub2 [17:52] alienBOB: d'oh! [17:52] Urchlay: yeah, i486 [17:52] --' [17:52] grub has the nice attribute of not building on 64-bit [17:53] Urchlay, so.. i need grub2 ? [17:53] everyone see those cool pictures of saturns ring they just discovered? [17:53] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:53] i have some problems with lilo [17:53] If you do want to use grub in slackware64, you will have to install multilib. Grub is a 32bit app [17:54] agentc0re|work: not I [17:54] alienBOB , grub2 run in 64bits? [17:54] hi \o/ [17:55] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] agentc0re|work: hm, you mean the one where you can barely make out the words "One Ring to Rule Them All" in runes? [17:56] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: No route to host [17:56] http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/jVyjlRFwjtg/NASA-Discovers-Giant-Ring-Around-Saturn [17:57] criw: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib <--- if you're serious about it. Not as hard as it looks... [17:57] does anyone in here have a router with dd-wrt on it ? [17:57] Urchlay: One ring to bind them! [17:57] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:58] Urchlay, ty [17:58] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:58] criw: thank alienBOB too, he wrote that manual :) [17:59] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.50.238) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Urchlay: wow, thanks too! [17:59] anyone know of a router rwhere you can write your own policies ? [18:00] a router with linux on it, you mean?? [18:00] yeah [18:00] not a pc being used as a router though [18:00] lots and lots of those [18:00] realy ? [18:00] an old pentium box? [18:00] what, something like a cheezy little netgear/linksys/d-link running linux instead of its original firmware? [18:00] criw: alienBOB no Urchlay [18:00] :D [18:01] AWM makes good stuff [18:01] yes Urchlay [18:01] cheap as well [18:01] Scuzz: I think what you're looking for is called "openwrt" [18:01] i jsut want it to boot and be able to write ip chain policies [18:01] most of their stuff has linux with dropbear [18:01] in the past I use one comtrend and a dlink504t [18:01] gar0t0: oww yeah, sorry :D [18:02] after messing with slackware firewall for a bit now [18:02] i see its the only thing needed [18:02] me mate got a AWM box with utorrent running. saves to usb stick you can plug in [18:02] quite nifty [18:02] brb [18:02] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:02] or maybe it was rtorrent [18:03] utorrent = windows only, so probly rtorrent [18:05] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] true [18:20] what would be the point [18:20] bisco (n=bisco@moko.slackware.it) left irc: "leaving" [18:20] I dunno, sometimes people do stuff like that just to be doing it, or to be able to say they did it [18:21] like getting linux installed on one of those old "luggable" IBM 386 machines, network install via PLIP [18:21] completely useless, but was kind of a fun project at the time [18:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] tried to get slack on some DEC machine, once [18:22] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:22] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.50.238) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] at one time I ported slack 10.2 to 64-bit powerpc, got maybe 85% of the way done with it [18:26] v4nelle (n=Nelle@78-57-114.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.57.191.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] X and gnome worked, KDE didn't, and neither did firefox (or whatever mozilla was in 10.2) [18:27] then I needed money & had to sell the mac :( [18:27] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] hey. KDE4 users, how the heck do I set an icon for a file type? e.g. *.foo files, I want to appear in dolphin or whatever, with an icon I made... where do I go in KDE to set this? (I am not a KDE user, but am trying to figure something out for a slackbuild) [18:29] eh [18:30] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-152.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@78-119-103.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Nick change: Lister -> slackytude [18:32] I did get the MIME type stuff working in /usr/share/mime, the file manager correctly says it's a Sega Master System ROM, and correctly opens it with the emulator, but it still shows the question-mark icon [18:33] was hoping, if I can figure out how to use the GUI to tell it to display my icon, I could then look in ~/.kde or ~/.local to see what config file(s) it created for that [18:34] firedix (n=firedix@host243.200-117-195.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [18:35] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:38] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:39] iceknight (n=iceknigh@nas-10-194.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:43] bullitt (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] what text based browsers are installed with slack12 other than lynx? [18:43] links [18:44] what others exist? [18:44] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [18:44] yeah [18:45] just trying ones out, seeing what i like [18:45] bullitt (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:46] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) joined ##slackware. [18:48] v4nelle (n=Nelle@78-57-114.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] elinks [18:48] winger (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] winger (n=bullitt@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:49] good [18:49] sorry, only available as an addon ---> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/elinks/ [18:50] links <3 [18:51] nvision (n=nvision@pD95330A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] time for sleepz [18:51] I needz them [18:53] no you don't [18:53] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.57.191.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:53] tomorrow moore... zzzZZZ [18:53] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:54] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:58] martys (n=bodib@94.187.124.8) joined ##slackware. [18:58] I doubt patrick installs libc5 JUST for xv ? [18:58] did he do that? [18:58] or is xv is relased as source? [19:00] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rah" [19:00] anyone? [19:00] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [19:00] grrr [19:01] dammit, I need to talk to someone who actually uses kde4 on a regular basis, surely there's someone in here...? [19:01] martys: xv is available as source, dunno if it's been updated in the past 10 years [19:01] #kde [19:02] martys: in general, if you're looking for the source to anything that comes with slackware, look on ftp.slackware.com or one of the mirrors, there will be a source/ directory for each version [19:02] how would I go about running a program I made for n number of times and seeing the average time it took to complete the program? [19:02] slackytude: yeah, every time I go ask in there, I don't get any response at all (not even "I don't know" or "RTFM") [19:03] heh [19:03] Guest20866 (n=Zack@fm-ip-118.136.197.91.fast.net.id) left irc: Client Quit [19:03] Reticenti: man time [19:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] Reticenti, time [19:04] i know about time, but "time ./a.out" only runs it once, and I want to run it, say 100 times [19:05] hmmm...slackware has shipped patched kernels in the past? [19:05] like which? [19:05] I tried "strace -f -eopen startkde", I'm just trying to find out where the damn thing is looking for icon images [19:05] Reticenti: time for i in {1..100}; do ./a.out; done [19:05] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Reticenti: although the shell will introduce some overhead [19:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.181) joined ##slackware. [19:06] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC30216.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Urchlay: that's fine, I just want to test some different sort methods for a program I'm writing [19:07] martys (n=bodib@94.187.124.8) left ##slackware. [19:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-179-109.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:07] Urchlay, time for i in {..] ? [19:07] Urchlay, does that work? [19:07] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [19:08] archimandritax (n=locus@83.173.146.253.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:08] eh, nvm [19:08] Action: slackytude goes to bed [19:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-179-109.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:09] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A75711.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:10] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:10] kiwi_guy (n=Snake@203.184.15.31) joined ##slackware. [19:11] kiwi_guy (n=Snake@203.184.15.31) left ##slackware. [19:12] Reticenti: the other thing you could do would be to have your program run its sort algorithm 100 times...? [19:12] Amsoz (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:12] xv is awesome. [19:12] that is all. [19:12] Urchlay: dont see how that could work if the list is sorted after i run it once :3 [19:13] camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] hi folks. anybody in here had success in getting a wacom tablet working in slackware 13? [19:13] Reticenti: make a copy of the unsorted list, or use randomly populate the list each time [19:14] if it's reading input from a file, rewind(file) and have it re-read... [19:14] yeah.. [19:14] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:14] running the script n times seems easier [19:14] :P [19:14] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:15] yah, and for your purposes you don't really care about overhead from the shell anyway [19:15] yeah [19:15] the bash range operator works as you would expect it to [19:16] I'm thinking of trying to implement a bogosort for shits and giggles [19:16] really? I expect it to make toast and drive me home when I'm drunk, but it fails every time :( [19:16] oh, I was still reading the backscroll. That comment doesn't make sense in the current context. [19:16] Urchlay: git :P [19:18] Reticenti: have an accumulator variable. each time the process runs, time it and add the time to the accumulator. when you're done, average that by the number of times you've run the program. [19:18] simple [19:18] (to your question about averaging time spent on a process) [19:18] hmm [19:18] don't know how to do that though [19:18] bleah. So apparently to define an icon for a mimetype, I have to create it for every possible theme and every size... /usr/share/icons///x-my-mime-type.png [19:19] Reticenti: so figure it out. It is the age of information, so they say. [19:19] =d [19:20] simples. [19:20] the usual way you'd work out the "mean" average. [19:21] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30A39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [19:21] or only way. [19:22] mean, or average, but "mean average" is redundant jonsmith1982 ;P [19:22] Reticenti: I don't recall entirely, but didn't we have a discussion before about programming? [19:23] godling: probably [19:23] godling: stop being mean [19:23] I made my first linked list program, not I get to sort it [19:23] s/not/now [19:23] jonsmith1982 is just an average guy [19:23] Urchlay: I am not being mean. [19:23] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [19:23] it's the mode you're operating in... [19:24] (in a minute I'll figure out how to add "median" to the conversation, but I'm stumped currently) [19:24] Action: godling stabs Urchlay smack in the middle of his body. [19:24] Urchlay: What's another word for middle? [19:24] forgive my poor attempts at humor [19:25] Action: godling helps a brother out. [19:26] center :P [19:26] Reticenti: actually if you're timing sorts, you probably do want to read input from /dev/urandom or something [19:26] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:26] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:26] gnubien (n=e@251.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:27] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Client Quit [19:27] or is the purpose to compare 2 algorithms with identical input? that may not tell you which one is faster in general (your input might turn out to be a corner case for one algo, something like that) [19:28] hmm [19:28] \good point [19:28] so /dev/urandom will continually give me "random" data until I stop reading it? [19:28] yah [19:29] not really, use /dev/random [19:29] it's "less random" than reading from /dev/random, but it doesn't block waiting for events to generate more entropy (and unless you're doing crypto, you don't care) [19:29] ah [19:30] so, for isntance, I could do this: "for(i = 0; i < 100; i++) cin >> node->number;"? [19:30] err [19:30] wait [19:31] Action: yesyes waits [19:31] fin.open(/dev/random); fin >> node->number; ? [19:33] Nick change: Amsoz -> Zosma [19:33] well, fin.open("//dev//random//") [19:34] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-140-66.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [19:34] I thought you just wanted to time some program [19:34] what are you trying to do? [19:34] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:34] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:35] compare the time for sorting algorithms [19:35] and /dev/random is to get random data to sort [19:35] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:35] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: "Leaving." [19:35] man random [19:35] :P [19:35] How is it that the terminus font works in xterm but urxvt and rxvt complain that it does not exist? [19:37] camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) left ##slackware. [19:38] the answer is on the xterm.conf [19:38] /etc/xterm.conf [19:38] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [19:40] guy my apache error_logfile tell me [PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/extensions/gd.so' libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 why it want libx11? [19:40] .ima [19:40] guy my apache error_logfile tell me [PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/extensions/gd.so' libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0] why it want libx11? [19:41] Intel[R]VT-x: I don't have that file [19:42] ~/.Xresources ? [19:43] retrocompile? [19:44] Intel[R]VT-x: No. I don't have any of those, I let ~/.Xdefaults handle my terminal configurations [19:44] Intel[R]VT-x: I even installed the terminus-font slackbuild [19:45] font cache up to date? [19:46] Nick change: v4nelle_ -> v4nelle [19:46] v4nelle_: because libX11 is a dependency of KDE? [19:46] mancha: Yes [19:46] Reticenti: I haven't done enough C++ (as opposed to good old C) to tell you what cin >> node->number will do (I suspect it depends on how node is defined) [19:47] BP{k}: i havent X windows....i want to run apache ,and apache tell me that....why php need libx11? [19:48] mancha: It keeps giving me urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting. [19:48] uhm .. I have no clue why I typed KDE .. I meant of course that libX11 is a dependency for PHP, inspecially to the gd stuff. [19:49] if its normall,i go to install it :) [19:49] then comment the line that loads that library [19:49] LoadModule or LoadLibrary something like that [19:49] sayed, what is your command line for urxvt? [19:50] Urchlay: it's fine, I don't really need the constant stream of random data [19:50] v4nelle: btw, there is a difference between "apache" and php .. even though they work quite good together ;) [19:50] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] mancha: bash? Is that what you mean? [19:51] bash is the shell , what it does is just command parsing and return the output to the mounted tty you need to change the font right ? [19:51] it depends on you're terminal emulator [19:51] mo_bledhoz (n=bledhoz@114.125.1.73) joined ##slackware. [19:51] in other words in Object oriented words xterm uses bash , but xterm isn't bash [19:53] hmm, i'm not sure if i like the terminus font [19:53] sayed: it's not enough to install the font to force the application to use that font , you have to go to that application's config file and configure [19:53] I am quite sure. ;) [19:53] BP{k}: Why not? What font do you use? [19:54] Intel[R]VT-x: Well no duh, I did. I have a corresponding linee in ~/.Xdefaults [19:54] wingdings [19:54] haha [19:54] I think you have to send the reconfigure signal to the application process then [19:55] Action: BP{k} smacks Dominian .. shaddup [19:55] :) [19:55] sayed, did you use the right syntax for urxvt? [19:55] sayed: actually the ";)" meant I am quite sure I quite like it. It's one of the first things I install. :) [19:55] SIGHUP I think [19:56] mancha: I believe so. urxvt*font: -*-terminus-bold*-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* [19:56] it might not be Urxvt*font: bippity-bop [19:56] BP{k}: Oh hehe [19:57] sayed, does that syntax work if you specify some other font (not terminus)? [19:57] mancha: Hmm, let mtry [19:58] sayed, also try: URxvt*font: ... (notice the capital U,R) [19:59] mancha: No, it doesn't work with any other font.. [19:59] Perhpas the syntax /is/ wrong [19:59] there is a signal that you should send to the process after you update some configs [19:59] try what i said URxvt*font: (or URxvt.font:) [19:59] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:00] mancha: Should I pu that long string with the asterix's or should I just put the name of the font? Hmm [20:00] same line you had, jut use capital U and capital R [20:00] no * means regex there [20:01] MidnightDevil (n=Dreamer@a213-22-73-225.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] mancha: No dice [20:01] sayed, you re-load your .Xresources into X when you make changes right? [20:02] (or restart X if thats what you prefer) [20:02] mancha: ... ~/.Xdefaults you mean? and no.. [20:02] then do that, they need to be re-loaded into X [20:03] mancha: Do you know the command for that? (to save me from restarting X and quitting irssi) [20:03] xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults [20:03] you have to send the signal using the command kill , I can't remember what is that signal precisely [20:03] wait [20:04] mancha: The error persists [20:04] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [20:04] urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting. [20:04] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] i am worried that if you didn't know about re-sourcing your X resource db, you don't know about font cache's and so forth [20:05] mancha: I did a fc-cache -r many times [20:05] fire|bird: buy me this one pretty please http://www.kamelot.com/shop/view_product.php?product=KMTS016 [20:06] Perhaps I need to log out and in? [20:06] I've always used "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources" [20:06] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] eh. except in my case it's ~/.Xdefaults for whatever reason [20:06] sayed, where did you get your font string? does that same one work with xterm? [20:07] xlsfonts | grep terminal # try that, see if it shows up [20:07] terminus might give better results [20:07] errr, right, whatever he said earlier [20:07] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-59-78.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] I keep getting called into the other room for trivial and boring reasons, only sort-of following conversation in here [20:08] Urchlay: Yeah, a shit load of fonts came up. I'm pretty sure it's there. It shows up in xfontsel [20:08] sayed: here's a .Xdefaults example file which might help -> http://pastebin.ca/1602849 [20:08] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:08] Action: sayed looks [20:08] Heya,slackers....how's everyone? [20:08] MLanden: you forgot the y0 [20:09] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.59) joined ##slackware. [20:09] mingdao: No matter what the heck I try, it doesn't work [20:09] lol,deco...change of macros....:P [20:09] MLanden: :P [20:09] sayed: that file was given me by Rat049 (or similiar) and as soon as I saved with vim it worked ... I didn't restart anything [20:09] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] hey, I have kernel.panic_on_oops = 1 in my /etc/sysctl.conf and it works fine to reboot the server whenever there is an oops. Problem is the oops isn't logged and it makes it impossible to dianose the problem. What can I do to log the oops? [20:10] I dunno ... I use Fluxbox and only had two lines in .Xdefaults ... plus his tastes don't match mine, so I just took the lines to make links in irssi launch in FF out of it [20:10] YAY [20:10] It worked \] [20:10] =] [20:11] mingdao: it was the syntax [20:11] hackeron: get a serial console [20:11] sayed: I knew that file worked, even if it needs tweaking [20:12] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [20:12] mingdao: the server is 5000 miles away from me [20:12] hackeron: get a *really* long rs232 cable [20:13] rs232 will fail on 50m [20:13] modulate the RS232 signal and transmit in a sattlite link [20:13] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "leaving" [20:13] then demodulate it back [20:13] 50m? [20:13] meters, miles? [20:14] meters [20:14] meaters [20:14] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:14] 15 meters [20:14] :P [20:14] unless you're using special cables and then you can get up to much more than that [20:14] I've had working rs232 setups closer to 200 feet, but they were really low baud rate (like 1200, or whatever the minimum was for playing Doom on a pair of 486s on opposite ends of the house) [20:14] godling: there are some RS232 chips that support 50m [20:14] but nowhere near 5000 miles [20:15] why's it not in dmesg? [20:15] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:15] Urchlay: was the signal powerful enough? [20:15] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [20:15] anyway I suppose my silly suggestion needed a :) to let everyone know it was a joke... [20:15] some chips are using +25 and -25V from the power supply directly and some are just using capasistor circuit to generate that voltage from 5v [20:15] Intel[R]VT-x: there are some that support 6 times that [20:16] the point is that most do not [20:16] :) [20:16] not only dummy cable will support that much [20:16] I don't think so [20:16] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrhggmhsmimenzzp) joined ##slackware. [20:16] but we're arguing about a suggestion that is silly anyways :P [20:16] pthreat (i=ba121059@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrhggmhsmimenzzp) left irc: "Page closed" [20:16] it's better you read the MAX232 Ic data sheet [20:17] mordern computer serial ports are implemented in that way :( So the answer is no yes you correct [20:18] what is the answer? that question is confusing in English [20:18] using capasistors to generate that voltage which have low fan out [20:18] s/question/statement/ [20:18] mo_bledhoz (n=bledhoz@114.125.1.73) left irc: "Leaving." 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[20:27] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78.86.149.244) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] doom was slow even in single player, one of them was a 486SX [20:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:28] the game would slow down to the speed of the slowest machine, so the 486DX was slower than normal [20:28] but I dunno how much it would have been improved if we'd been able to raise the baud rate [20:28] haha so it's like *shoot* ... *take a bite of sandwich* ... *kill* [20:28] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:28] lol,godling [20:29] the chaingun fired about as fast as you'd expect the pistol to, if you held down the button... [20:29] anyway, BBL [20:29] ugh, I need to write this stupid paper [20:29] me too [20:29] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [20:30] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:30] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:30] also, if you're getting lots of kernel oops then something is seriously fubar with your boxen [20:32] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:33] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] mikl0 (n=User@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:33] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@78-119-103.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [20:34] v4nelle (n=Nelle@78-119-103.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:34] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "leaving" [20:34] Nick change: a1g_ -> a1g [20:35] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [20:37] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] sayed (n=sayed@rn--cth-1-1-a04.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:39] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:41] speaking of DOOM, did you guys ever play ROTT(rise of the triad)? [20:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [20:45] agentc0re: wasn't that the one like Castle Wolfenstein? [20:45] y0 MLanden [20:45] heya,fire|bird [20:45] How's it going? [20:45] not too bad,thanks and yourself? [20:46] great, thanks, although my net connection sucks. :P [20:46] MLanden: a little. [20:46] agentc0re: may have played the demo but can't recall [20:46] Oh look, it's a bird, it's a plane.......bah, it's just agentc0re with a parachute. [20:47] http://www.3drealms.com/rott/ hehe, scroll down to spec's. [20:47] fire|bird: OMG and he's going to land on phoenix! [20:48] hahaha [20:48] Thanks for saving my fall kid! [20:48] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:48] Oh look, it's a fire, It's a bird..... Oh wait, it's just a ass|clown! :P [20:48] Well, I suppose that's better than you playing superman again and getting a second purple leg. [20:49] hahahahahaha [20:49] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ah shit, everyone run! [20:50] I may have to venture to say the clown part is right, at times. [20:50] Action: fire|bird runs [20:50] did someone day doom? [20:50] fire|bird: :P i'm just teasing. you're just halfass and quarter clown. :P [20:50] hahahaha [20:51] jeev needs to do a /nick douche|bag [20:51] Action: agentc0re knows that's random [20:51] but hey, sometimes the truth.... is just so truthful. [20:52] random as opposed to the past 7 minutes? :P [20:56] correct! [20:56] Don64 (n=Don@ip68-103-161-157.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] 4 minutes to respond. You had to think about it? [20:57] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:58] hmmm when i got my $60 check I'm gonna go on a slackware shopping spree [20:58] get* [20:59] gonna gear up,deco? [20:59] MLanden: yup ^^ the black slackware shirt is my priority [20:59] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [20:59] v4nelle_ (n=Nelle@78-119-103.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:00] MLanden: He's gonna buy a round of slackware caps for everyone. :) [21:00] then chop off our heads and see if the flippy logo holds up...j/k [21:01] hahaha [21:01] j0z (n=j0z@201.22.60.104.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:02] Don64 (n=Don@ip68-103-161-157.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] lol [21:04] awesome,deco...hope you enjoy the t-shirt [21:04] tight pants + black eyeliner + black nail polish + dark hair+ slackware shit = kamelot fan who uses slackware ? [21:05] MLanden: thanks ^^ but it will be a while till i get my check [21:05] shirt* ooops [21:05] bad typo [21:06] hahaha [21:06] bad typo indeed [21:06] how dare you say slackware shit, off with ye head. [21:06] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:07] fire|bird: shuddap you flirted with sabayon for sometime that's worse [21:07] It was 2 days and I was back to slackin. :P [21:07] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.36.172) joined ##slackware. [21:07] fire|bird: enough to break hearts.. [21:07] hey nachox, how are you? [21:08] happy [21:08] good to hear :) [21:08] i just got an opensolaris traveling cup [21:08] nice [21:09] :O [21:09] cool,nachox [21:09] I have osol on a 40G drive, but I haven't booted it up in a few weeks. [21:09] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] LSD`_ (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:14] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [21:15] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:15] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [21:17] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [21:18] LSD` (n=ianweb@58.7.6.82) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:18] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [21:19] shirt + plush penguin = $32 hmmmm [21:19] There's about half of your $60 [21:19] Nick change: LSD`_ -> LSD` [21:19] fire|bird: yup and not including shipping... [21:19] :O [21:19] :( [21:20] Well, is the plush penguin really needed? [21:20] fire|bird: nah :P but i don't have a cat so.... [21:20] omg [21:20] bb23 (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] :P [21:20] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] lol [21:20] enough said [21:20] yeah [21:20] shh [21:20] right..:P [21:20] Well, just get the shirt now, then each check you get, just set a little bit aside to save up for something on there. [21:21] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:21] ah how go the three? [21:21] fire|bird: yup :), [21:22] bb23 (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:23] fire|bird: when i first saw the slackware case plate, i thought it was a pillow lol [21:23] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] hahahaha [21:23] it would be so nice to have one [21:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] it would be niice to have a SAN console [21:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] y0 hitest, how's it going? [21:25] pls give to al franken [21:25] hiya fire|bird! things are good, thank you. you? [21:25] heya,hitest [21:25] hitest: great, thanks. :) [21:26] $7.95 shipping oh boy -_- [21:26] hey MLanden, how are you? [21:26] good for the evenin' thanks,hitest [21:27] :) [21:27] if i buy it , I'm never taking it off [21:27] deco is now known as deco|stinky [21:27] tre (n=tre@222-152-129-21.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Action: hitest plugs his nose [21:28] heh [21:28] fire|bird: gonna shower with it :P [21:28] oh lord [21:28] gross, dude [21:28] lol [21:28] hitest: I'll order some gas masks and put some slackware stickers on em. :P [21:28] fire|bird: then i'll have the plush penguin right next to me so he can watch me.... [21:28] ha-ha [21:28] oh lord, you haz issues. [21:29] agreed [21:29] If that plush penguin becomes your best friend and you give it a name, we're going to commit you to the insane asylum. [21:29] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:30] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:30] fire|bird: sure...... [21:31] fire|bird: coming from a guy who calls himself firebird ... [21:31] fire|bird: no fear...deco'll just have a new Mr. Flibble http://reddwarf.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Flibble [21:32] hahahaha [21:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:32] heh [21:33] fire|bird: then I'll get Camarade_Tux to dry me up.. [21:35] Action: deco is rocking to some kamleot atm [21:35] kamelot* grrr [21:35] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [21:36] does anyone have experience with a sata controller cards for older ide motherboards? [21:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [21:36] I am basically just trying to find out if the 2.6 kernel will support such a device out of the box, or will I need to install drivers separately [21:37] silence.... [21:37] spaceplo_ (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-serebunubfaduejk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:37] sQuEE (n=narya@host45.201-252-57.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:38] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [21:39] Hey, how do I get a daemon to start at boot time? [21:39] you add it to rc.local or some such file [21:40] cryptic0: thanks [21:40] sayed, np [21:40] cryptic0: what's the make of the motherboard? [21:40] Asus A7N8X-X [21:40] not the deluxe version [21:41] and I am looking at rosewill RC212 sata controller [21:43] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] cryptic0: does the bios "see" it? [21:44] tre (n=tre@222-152-129-21.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] oh, I haven't bought it yet. Just doing research to make sure if I buy it. [21:46] MidnightDevil (n=Dreamer@a213-22-73-225.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:46] MidnightDevil (n=Dreamer@a213-22-73-225.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [21:47] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:51] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/ROFLprofen.jpg [21:52] that beats my cat stories.... [21:52] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:52] cryptic0: few web sites show that it should be able to use the sata_via driver [21:55] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:58] wb fire|bird [21:59] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-22-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:59] the bird is speechless .... [21:59] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] thanks MLanden [22:00] Action: fire|bird hits deco with a plush penguin [22:02] sQuEE (n=narya@host140.190-30-2.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. 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[22:40] nite [22:41] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-135-247.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] how i can integrate rosegarden and jack? By the way, i just want edit my score, and play. [22:46] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Hey guys, for some reason whenever I try to start mpd my ENTIRE computer slows down significantly to the point where I have to way like 30 seconds for it to respond. any ideas why? [22:49] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-167-144.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] what's "mpd"? [22:50] renatosrabelo1 (n=renato@189037002162.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:51] sayed: what's "mpd"? [22:52] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] SIGBUS (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:53] sayed: you're gonna ask a question, and then ignore the responses you get? [22:54] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-166-52.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] danc3: a music player daemon. [22:56] mpd <3 [22:56] ahh, ok [22:56] what clients do you people use for mpd? i've started using gmpc :o [22:56] I guess he doesn't want help after all [22:56] wubbster: gmpc [22:57] :D [22:57] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] why is the slackware kernel set to pentium pro by default? [23:00] Because its i686 optimized [23:01] Balsaq (i=47a18791@gateway/web/freenode/x-pkxzrikmardieiur) joined ##slackware. [23:01] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:01] danc3: music player daemon. And please don't criticize me, google is your friend. [23:02] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@66.249.5.45) left irc: "Leaving." [23:02] don't criticize you? What??? You ask a question, and then disappear? [23:02] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.17.148) joined ##slackware. [23:02] sayed: most folks would call that "rude" [23:03] danc3: I'm not going to entertain you trolling me. [23:03] LOL! wanker. [23:03] is slackware free, easy to install and good for non techs? [23:03] Balsaq: Yes yes and no [23:04] crap, i have no idea what i will listen to next [23:05] i have done some upgrades on my own and did my ubu install and a t time have fixed some light issues on my own, but not good yet in terminal and stuff like that, is slackware over my head? [23:06] yes [23:06] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left ##slackware. [23:06] ok thanks [23:06] Balsaq: unless you want to make your head bigger. [23:06] you're welcome [23:07] well it is my intention tommaster the linux stuff actually wondering where slackware fits inti the picture-why does a linux person choose slackware? [23:07] started in linux a week ago [23:08] Balsaq: you can do it, but, you'll need to roll up your sleeves, buckle down, and thoroughly read the slackbook. Slackware will not hold your hand. [23:08] you don't cheose slackware; slackware chooses you. [23:08] leitaox (i=leitaox@187-26-153-162.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:08] in mother Russia anyway [23:08] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] so there is a book for this one? [23:09] yep [23:09] Balsaq: read that first then decid.e [23:09] before we go there, what is the purpose of having the slackware OS as opposed to say...ubuntu or xubuntu? [23:10] http://www.slackware.com/book/ [23:10] performance and control to name a few. [23:11] yermandu (n=yermandu@201.28.104.101) left irc: "Conectado." [23:13] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [23:15] Balsaq: if you're interested this was my reply to a post in a blog someone created about whether they should pick slackware over debian. It's just my reasons and opinion for what it's worth. http://pastebin.org/39331 [23:15] oahong` (n=user@220.115.249.239) joined ##slackware. [23:16] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-238.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [23:25] i'm tweeting, i officially have no life [23:26] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] haha, i've been to some channels where you can update your tweet directly using the irc bot. [23:26] mrselfpwn, i use my phone, for the most part [23:26] mrselfpwn, just send an sms [23:27] ah [23:27] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-167-71.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] i save 5 bucks a month and disable sms [23:27] mrselfpwn, whether i use sms or not, same pric [23:27] price [23:27] oic [23:28] i'm on sprint/nextel's prepay setup [23:28] aye [23:28] $50/month...unlimited use for talk, text, ptt, and web [23:28] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Success [23:29] short story, my old phone would allow me to connect to verizon evdo and get online and only use minutes. somehow the new phone won't and it take me to the verizon site where they want me to pay 50 dollars a month for that feature. well guess what. when I ping google i get and ip. :) [23:30] s/and/an [23:30] mrselfpwn, LOL...boost won't let me tether at all, in any way...can't even dialup with my phone [23:30] heh [23:31] i only know about the verizon and alltel networking ways. [23:31] i used to have alltel [23:31] we don't have alltel here, though, and boost is cheaper than verizon [23:31] but since i can ping google that means that port 53 isn't being blocked. if you can imagine the possibilities. [23:32] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:32] verizon is $3/day for same features that boost gives you for $50/month [23:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.152) joined ##slackware. [23:33] and it comes with a cute 646 number [23:33] yeah, the coverage is greater though. [23:33] in other words, EVERYONE knows that you're on a mobile [23:33] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] and in the line of work i'm in we travel so we need coverage everywhere we can get it. [23:34] well, yes and no...i've gotten signal with this thing in some locations verizon doesn't work well in [23:34] again, this thing operates on sprint's network [23:34] mrselfpwn, and i WAS a trucker [23:34] yes, i've seen that happen also, though it's usually in the boondocks. [23:35] yes, sprint is pretty good [23:35] now i've seen the opposite happen as well [23:35] up there with verizon though the others can't hang [23:37] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:37] Action: nyRednek lights a pipe and considers tweeting about it [23:38] nyRednek: great idea! a pipe would be great now. let me grab mine. [23:38] what's your flavor? [23:38] macius (n=macius@i209-195-109-39.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] i like different ones. [23:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-69-19.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:39] the one i have now is actually really good that my brother got from somewhere, though we don't know the flavor. [23:39] colombian gold? [23:39] i burn stokkebye, turkish #94 [23:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] it's just in a ziplock bag [23:39] hehe [23:40] nyRednek: I'm not an avid pipe smoker though I do enjoy it on occasion, so i don't know all the brands. [23:40] stokkebye is technically cigarette tobacco [23:40] but it burns smooth in a pipe [23:40] if it comes from Thailand, it's probably good (rule of thumb) [23:41] i couldn't find a usable dvd today [23:41] so i can't install slack 13 until i get my lazy butt to the store [23:42] you're gonna buy a Slack dvd? [23:42] what store is that? [23:42] danc3, no, a blank [23:42] oh [23:42] i'll send pat some cash on paypal again in a bit [23:42] good idea [23:42] already bought the hat [23:42] :) [23:43] my buddy gave me a wool hat i like better... [23:44] thinking of getting the slack logo embroidered on it [23:44] digitalpsyko (n=digitalp@unaffiliated/digitalpsyko) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:44] or silk screened on it on top of the maker logo [23:46] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-1-133.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:46] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] you know, that WOULD be cool [23:47] a store that has your favorite linux distro in stock [23:48] I recall seeing Suse boxes in a Best Buy a year or two ago [23:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. 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