[00:00] or you can type cd;pwd [00:00] heviarti: no it doesn't, the prompt doesn't tell me who I am running as [00:00] the prompt says [00:00] bash-4.1# [00:00] rot [00:00] newslacker, you will need to use an installation disk to get into the partition and change the entries in /etc/fstab then boot into your correct root partition using the recovery prompt on the installation disk [00:00] root [00:00] you're rot [00:00] oh [00:00] damn sticking o key [00:00] # is root, $ is user [00:01] ah [00:01] for the most part [00:01] which reminds me, I need a copy of rc [00:01] newslacker, once you are in the system from the recovery disk you can correct the bootloader, reload the bootloader and fix your initrd file if necessary [00:02] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [00:02] hda is what it calls the hard drive btw [00:03] newslacker: you're ide [00:04] Action: heviarti hacks up a hairball [00:04] newslacker, do you have the slackware 13.1 installation disk or usb disk with the slackware usb installer loaded? [00:04] mfillpot: when I type in the startxfce4, the screen flashes and it says [00:04] heviarti, was the cause of the issue hair near the lens? [00:04] Can't open display: :0 [00:04] erroirs at startup are usually authorization problems [00:05] phil___, you are having a bad night [00:05] mfillpot: yes I am [00:05] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] I thank you for your patience [00:05] phil___, but learning a lot [00:05] mfillpot: that also, which is worth it [00:05] no i have 13.0 and i was using the slackpkg to upgrade over the net [00:05] Didit^_^ (~osc@202.70.59.208) joined ##slackware. [00:06] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-113-39.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:06] i have the cds for 13.0 not .1 [00:06] phil___, it seems like X cannot properly detect the correct configuration for your video [00:06] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [00:06] it works when I write startx as root [00:06] newslacker, do you have a usb drive you can write the usb image onto? [00:07] good [00:07] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] no but i have a portable hard drive i could add it to if it would work [00:08] newslacker, actually you can try to use the 13.0 disk to recover the system, I haven't tried booting into a newer kernel in a while and it may work [00:08] mfillpot: the error further clarifies "Errors at startup are usually authorization problems. But you're not logging in as root (good!) so something else must be wrong. [00:08] phil___, what kind of video card do you have? [00:09] the one that came with the laptop, let me see if I can find a model # [00:09] phil___, is it intel, ati or nvidia? [00:09] Hi. [00:09] Question. I have an old game like Icewind Dale and I want to back it up to iso (before this old CD dies out on me). What is a way to do so? [00:10] mfillpot: is there a command to find out? I can't find the manual atm [00:10] phil___, usually there is a sticker on the laptop bragging about the video card [00:10] lfjob: i'm pretty sure yu culd use dd fr that [00:10] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-113-39.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:10] phil___, but you can also find it online by looking up the model specs [00:10] and even mount the image as a lop device and run from it [00:10] Appetite (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [00:11] intel graphics media accelerator 4500mhd [00:11] mfillpot: but why would it work then if I run as root? [00:11] I'm a bit uncomfortable with dd. [00:13] phil___, as root run "X -configure" to make an xorg.conf file and copy it to /etc/X11/ [00:13] lf4, have you tried using k3b? [00:14] phil___, I don;t really understand that but it doesn't matter because most likely you will put the device in init4 mode (gui startup) when you are done in which kdm will be started as root [00:15] mfillpot: I will do as you say and report the results [00:15] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:16] I am getting tired [00:16] MLanden, do you want to pop up and try to push these guys in the right direction? [00:17] mfillpot: now that I have done that, can I just run startx as before? [00:17] as root* [00:17] mfillpot: I'll try..be in here for little while before I head to bed [00:17] phil___, go ahead and try it [00:17] I mean, like I can do when I'm root [00:18] ack [00:18] MLanden, Ty, I think newslacker has the issue that requires the most guidance [00:18] startx makes the command line do nothing when I type [00:18] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:18] oh I got the error [00:18] xauth: timeout in locking authority file //.serverauth.286 [00:18] 4 [00:19] anyone here run plan9? [00:19] phil___, go into root mode and run "init 4" and tell me what happens [00:19] it's not letting me do anything right now [00:20] phil___, press ctrl+c to kill the process [00:20] that doesn't work [00:20] the cmd line completely ignores my commands [00:20] rebooting hard... [00:21] brb switching to the laptop [00:21] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:21] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:23] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [00:23] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] mfillpot: I ran init 4 as root [00:24] a horrible looking login box came up [00:24] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.122) joined ##slackware. [00:24] I tried to log in as a normal user but it wouldn't let me, it would only accept root credentials [00:24] phil___, how did you create the new user? [00:24] hmm... this is cool..: http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/ [00:25] mfillpot: with useradd [00:25] phil___: what permission is your home directory set to? [00:26] MLanden: let me see [00:27] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] Fish_Kungfu (yaaic@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [00:28] MLanden: where are home directories located [00:28] lol [00:28] phil___: hmm - /home comes to mind [00:28] "cd /home" [00:28] the only thing in home is ftp [00:28] "ls -ld " [00:29] alisonken1home: sounds right...:P [00:29] "grep /etc/passwd" should tell you where home for that user is [00:29] cannot access asdf: No suck file or directory [00:29] See slackbook (/topic) and use adduser. [00:29] what is asdf supposed to be? [00:29] sounds like a messed-up user add [00:30] should I mkdir a dir in home for my user? [00:30] phil___, confirm what directory was set for the user's home directory first [00:30] phil___: what does "grep /etc/passwd" show? (replace with the username you supposedly added) [00:31] asdf:x:1000:1000::/home/dave:/bin/bash [00:31] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:31] osc_ (~osc@202.70.59.30) joined ##slackware. [00:31] that /home/dave is /home/asdf [00:31] I sudo mkdir'd the asdf directory in /home [00:31] osc_ (~osc@202.70.59.30) left irc: Client Quit [00:32] phil___, when did you do that? [00:32] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [00:32] a minute ago [00:32] but after I did the grep [00:32] also [00:32] there's a little more involved than just creating the directory - you should remove the user from /etc/passwd and recreate using adduser [00:32] cd ~ [00:32] changes to / [00:32] alisonken1lap: I'll do that then [00:32] hmm - the user name is "asdf" - and the home directory is /home/dave [00:32] alisonken1lap: that was a typo [00:33] sounds like a missed useradd entry [00:33] osc_ (~osc@202.70.59.30) joined ##slackware. [00:33] as root "vi /etc/passwd" and remove the line for "asdf" - then "vi /etc/shadow" and remove the line for "asdf", then readd the user again using useradd [00:33] Jesus... this thing can run processing and storage seperately and reboot one or the other... [00:34] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [00:34] Didit^_^ (~osc@202.70.59.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:34] heviarti, it is just a virtual machine software? [00:34] after doing what you said alison, I do useradd asdf [00:34] and it says [00:34] useradd: group asdf already exists [00:35] if you want to add this user to that group, use -g [00:35] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.10.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:35] mfillpot: plan9? no, it's a whole OS [00:35] you really want the user login to be "asdf" [00:35] ? [00:35] as a test [00:35] asdf [00:35] fdsa [00:35] Action: lfjob looks at all the porn and smiles. [00:35] alisonken1lap: i think asdf is a great username [00:35] and slackware doesn't do the *bunutu trick of creating a separate group for each user either [00:36] alisonken1home, dang why would *buntu do that? [00:36] alisonken1lap: so what do I do [00:36] not the intent of the group setup [00:36] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: into dreamland I go for yet another adventure! [00:36] lfjob: has something to do with making it easier to"sudo ......" stuff [00:36] Yikes. [00:37] does anyone know what I should do [00:37] phil___: same as /etc/passwd and shadow, only edit /etc/group and /etc/gshadow to remove the group asdf [00:38] or use the groupdel command [00:38] that toio [00:38] too [00:38] I did the command adduser by itself [00:38] it went through a long menu [00:38] and it worked :D [00:39] yayyyyyy startx works now too [00:39] I wonder why it didn't work before [00:39] mfillpot: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/FAQ/index.html [00:39] Oh no! [00:39] what groups did you add the user to? in slackware, the base group is "users", then on the second question for "more groups to add" hit the up arrow for defaults to get sound/video/extra stuff to work for that user [00:39] Why would I get this with dd? dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error [00:39] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:39] alisonken1lap: the first time I just did adduser asdf [00:40] heviarti, I thought you were still referring to the inferno link you gave [00:40] alisonken1lap: this time I just did adduser and went through the menu [00:40] good [00:40] ;-; Nooo I am getting a lot of these errors, what's goingo n? [00:41] first lesson in slackware, use the defaults until you _understand_ what you're doing [00:41] lfjob: cd scratched? [00:41] No. [00:41] ;_; [00:41] and know what changes do what to your system [00:41] or dirty disk [00:41] Really really really old CDs. [00:41] MLanden: no - it's been that way since around 12.x [00:41] at least for audio cd's [00:41] not sure about data cd's [00:42] alisonken1lap: I thought that was the default [00:42] maybe earlier [00:42] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.21.3.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:42] I didn't specify extra groups [00:42] naw, i just stumbled into that off the plan9 page [00:42] phil___: may run into audio issues then with the new user (audio not working, etc) [00:43] alisonken1lap: why, and how can I fix it [00:43] heviarti, I am looking at the plan9 page now, I can't wait to see what it does an how it compares [00:43] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [00:43] phil___, you would get those errors because you are not in the right groups yet [00:44] mfillpot: ok, I will deal with that later, right now I am still working on wifi [00:44] phil___: the long way is to vi /etc/group, and for "lp, video, cdrom, audio, plugdev,power, netdev", add a comma then the new user [00:44] is it a problem that my /etc/wpa_supplicant is blank? [00:45] the first column is the group name [00:45] wpa_supplicant.conf I mean [00:45] the last column is the comma separated list of users that are part ofthat group [00:45] phil___: I use wicd - makes it easier to work with wifi [00:45] alisonken1lap: I am using wicd, but the wifi rejects my password even though I am absolutely sure it is right [00:45] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:45] I am using the same password on this computer and it works perfectly [00:46] phil___: is the encryption scheme set to the correct one as well? [00:46] yes [00:46] is there spaces in the accesspoint name? [00:47] alisonken1lap: true..it has been that way for a while...thanks [00:47] does the ap have restrictions on which clients can connect (by mac address)? [00:47] alisonken1lap: no, it's just three capital letters [00:47] I assume you're talking about the SSID [00:47] or whatever it's called [00:47] yes [00:47] for the ap name [00:47] name=SSID [00:48] ok [00:48] no there's no spaces [00:48] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:48] on the ap - is mac address filtering enabled and is your laptop part of the filter group? [00:48] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-113-39.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:48] I don't think mac address filtering is enabled [00:48] I don't have to do anything special for a new device to connect to it [00:49] mfillpot: looks to be a bit picky about hardware... [00:49] but the fack all input is an emulatin layer allowing the widowing system to be run recursively.... [00:50] s/fack/fact/ [00:50] I am using wicd 1.7.0 [00:50] that's the one I'm using and have no problems connecting [00:50] this sangria is an awful sangria.... it'd make a better chianti. [00:50] would network-manager conflict with wicd [00:50] work (location one and two), church, home all work fine using different encryptions [00:51] yhes [00:51] yes - network manager sucks [00:51] how do I know if I have it installed [00:51] yes.... definitely a chianti [00:51] phil___, aren't you running a stock slackware installation [00:51] yes [00:51] I was just looking for problems on google and it said network-manager would cause a bad password error [00:51] how do I list the software I have installed [00:51] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:52] phil___, the list can be gathered through "ls /var/log/packages" [00:52] phil___, if you are using stock then network-manager is not installed, but you can grep the command I gave to confirm that [00:52] nope, no network-manager [00:52] you're right [00:52] what could be wrong [00:54] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-113-39.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:54] newslacker (~Kenneth@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:55] phil___, I would say that you will need to check the packet movement to see what happens during the negotiation [00:55] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:55] newslacker (~root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] changing the password to such a simple thing as asdfasdf even says the password is bad [00:57] osc_ (~osc@202.70.59.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:58] phil___, can you connect if the network is unencrypted? [00:58] mfillpot: I get a different error if the network is unencrypted [00:58] phil___, what error? [00:58] I cannot remember [00:58] how can I roll back to an earlier version of wicd [00:58] phil___, the original error may be the cause of the newer issues [00:59] I will recreate that error then [00:59] phil___, find an older package, remove the current one then install the chosen package [00:59] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:59] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:00] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:00] heviarti, have you tried using plan9 yet? [01:00] not yet [01:00] i tried to to do a slackpkg upgrade-all from 13.0 to 13.1 and after it finished its upgrade i rebooted then it locked up and said this Cannot open root device "302"or unknown-block (3,2) release append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions. then it gave me a list of my partitions and sda1-sda3 and a bunch of number . And locked up right there it wouldnt even let me login [01:00] i have an old p5 Imight try it on [01:01] mfillpot: I get the error Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address. [01:02] phil___, so that means there is a communication issue between the devices that may be causing corrupt packets to be transferred [01:03] newslacker: after the upgrade,did you run lilo? [01:03] mfillpot: would you read through this: http://wicd.net/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=277 [01:03] newslacker: there's a lib change in libata which means that fstab needs to be changed so all references to /dev/hdX should now be /dev/sdX [01:03] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-159.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:04] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.52) joined ##slackware. [01:04] it asked me to run lilo and i hit Y for yes [01:05] that was during the upgrade before the reboot [01:05] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:05] phil___, those posts are old, but they are referencing an issue that should be resolved, but they bring up a good question, have you looked at the wicd log file yet as referenced in those posts? [01:06] what file is the wicd logs stored in [01:06] oh found it [01:06] wicd logs are in /var/log/wicd [01:06] phil___, check the 6th post in the thread you referenced to see what others have seen in the logs [01:07] newslacker: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT <-- did you read through this? [01:08] mannynix (~mannynix@200.77.64.33) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:09] where is dhcpcd located [01:09] no i havent read that i didnt even know about that site [01:09] I can't run it [01:09] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-159.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] newslacker: those are text files on the cd/dvd as well [01:10] damn..google's homepage'll make you crave Wonder bread [01:10] phil___: /sbin/dhcpcd [01:10] phil___: can only be run as root as well [01:11] and it only runs on interfaces that are up - if wicd is not connecting, then it won't run until the interface is up and connected [01:12] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:12] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:12] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:12] cupucupu (~cupucupu@202.93.37.92) joined ##slackware. [01:12] mfillpot: if I run dhcpcd wlan0 it just says sending commands to master dhcpcd process [01:12] newslacker, alisonken1home has a good point you should always read the update file before doing an upgrade [01:13] never done an upgrade before lol [01:13] readme.txt and upgrade.txt and any notes on the cd/dvd [01:13] oh I just killed dhcpcd [01:13] now dhcpcd wlan0 hangs on waiting for carrier [01:14] phil___ and newslacker, you two are just trouble, but you will learn a lot about what not to do tonight [01:14] timed out [01:14] mfillpot: sorry, I am trying to to mess it up [01:14] mfillpot: trying not to* [01:15] phil___, no need to appologize, we all started out confused and made many mistakes to get where we are today [01:15] phil___, I still make many newb mistakes after nearly a decade using slackware [01:16] mfillpot: why have you stayed on slackware for so long, why is it better for you than other flavours of linux [01:16] cupucupu (cupucupu@202.93.37.92) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:17] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [01:17] phil___, slackware keeps me in control of my system and keeps configuration simple, it may not seem simple to you, but compared to fighting with attempted automation scripts this is very simple [01:21] mfillpot: is it possible to translate a pass key to hex code [01:21] for use with the iwconfig wlan0 key xxx [01:22] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:22] isn't that implementation dependent [01:22] ? [01:23] I don't know [01:23] phil___, check out https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=814584 , it look like someone found that passing special arguments to the b43 driver fixed an issue like yours [01:23] mfillpot: how would I start wpa_supplicant [01:23] are you talking about the b43 broadcom wifi drivers [01:24] newslacker: yes [01:24] I just installed them a few minutes ago to get wifi working [01:24] phil___, wpa-supplicant to called from your interface configuration [01:24] mfillpot: what? [01:25] also how does one pass parameters to a module [01:25] phil___: did you try using /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? if so, it may be interfering with wicd [01:25] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [01:25] phil___, read the thread you will get the instructions [01:25] alisonken1lap: I think I might have [01:26] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.93.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:26] phil___: you might want to check /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and remove all references to the wireless [01:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:28] alisonken1lap: should I restart after I un-edit that file [01:29] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [01:29] phil___: probably wouldn't hurt [01:30] I also edited [01:30] the file /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [01:31] wpa_supplicant.conf will probably get overwritten by wicd or it will be ignored when wicd regenerates the connetion info [01:31] oh this is great... [01:31] Sysma [01:32] an italianband singing in bad english [01:35] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:35] redslack_ (~redness@c122-108-221-53.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:35] redslack (~redness@c122-108-180-138.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:36] sounds like a 60's rock band to me [01:36] (bad english songs ....) [01:36] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.25.52) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks!! [01:38] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-159.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:38] alisonken1lap: Thank you for your help and for mfillpot's help, it is becoming late so I will retire, but have no fear, I shall return tomorrow to try and continue fixing my wifi [01:39] goodbye to all [01:39] thegato (~gato@cpe-72-230-116-7.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] phil___, good night [01:39] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [01:40] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] "have no fear" - famous last words or big-time threat. the jury is out on that one. [01:40] alisonken1home, thanks for jumping in [01:40] np [01:40] just started my shift at the noc so have some spare time [01:41] shadowx (~Slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [01:41] do you ever do "noc noc" jokes? [01:41] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:41] mancha: hah [01:41] alisonken1lap: no, a big-time threat would be "hi, we're from the government & we're here to help" :) [01:41] alisonken1home, you always seem to be active [01:41] heh [01:41] im still lost but thanks to you both for putting up with me and trying to help . [01:41] alphageek: I _used_ to be from the government :) [01:41] alisonken1home, but can you check on newslacker and try to offer him some recovery advise he is still very new to slackware [01:42] scary. why'd you give up a guaranteed paycheck? [01:42] for a guaranteed pension! [01:42] plus a paycheck! [01:43] alphageek: who gave it up? :) retired navy 21 years [01:43] ahh [01:43] two incomes is moar better than one [01:43] I'm on my second career now [01:43] mancha: three - if you include the wife's job [01:44] now we're talking. put 'em to work i say [01:45] navy retirement makes the house payment and keeps the medial benefits, her job and my second career pay for the new car, the kid, and the simple pleasures in life [01:45] medical [01:48] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [01:48] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:50] rworkman, are you there? If so give me a shout. [01:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Put your hands in the air! [01:57] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:58] Action: lfjob throws hands in the air and shakes chest. [01:58] hba (~hba@189.188.105.143) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:00] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] lfjob: hopefully you're of the female persuasion. a guy shaking his chest pretty much requires eyebleach [02:05] Ahahaha! [02:05] BLEACH YO' EYES! BLEACH!! [02:06] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5CAE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] No, _drink_ the bleach. [02:09] Actually don't. [02:09] That's extremely painful. [02:09] Trust me. [02:09] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [02:14] kickback (~Unknown@122.163.106.237) joined ##slackware. [02:15] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:15] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:15] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [02:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [02:17] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:18] frk (~jcn@189.58.211.244.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:20] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:20] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [02:20] I hate being the only one awake. [02:20] I'm always awake when everyone is asleep. [02:22] i'm up, but i gotta go to bed for four hours of sleep [02:22] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [02:23] I'm awake, but I can no longer see [02:24] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:24] ;_; [02:24] not even sure if i'm welcome here right now... [02:24] not running slack [02:25] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:25] nyRednek, you are a sinner [02:25] I ran Win7 earlier and nobody talked to me. [02:25] mfillpot: i know [02:25] well, what i'm running is still FOSS [02:25] nyRednek, the only excuse you woudl have is if your box is down or if you don't have access to a real computer [02:26] If you sinned, then I have desecrated. [02:26] mfillpot: neither of those [02:26] That;'s worse. [02:26] nyRednek, lazy? [02:26] mfillpot: yeah, that's it [02:26] nyRednek: BLASPHEMY! [02:26] mfillpot: even though the process of getting this one running *wasn't* easy [02:26] redslack (~redness@c122-108-180-138.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [02:26] nyRednek, or are you switching distros but can't stand to be away from us? [02:27] mfillpot: s/switching/getting a change of scenery/ [02:27] mfillpot: /ver me [02:27] nyRednek, which OS? [02:27] mfillpot: Debian Squeeze [02:28] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [02:28] mfillpot: here's the funny thing...it's "unstable", yet slack has newer versions of tools [02:28] nyRednek, I guess that is ok [02:28] mfillpot: squeeze even has an older kernel [02:28] What am I doing wrong? :( [02:29] mfillpot: and i installed it via debootstrap [02:29] lfjob: what you mean? [02:29] ;_; I just... I just wish I wasn't human. [02:29] mfillpot: in other words, i bootstrapped it off of a slack install [02:29] nyRednek, that is what kept me from really pushing into debian, how can there stable still lack the features of out stable? [02:30] nyRednek, I did the same a year or so ago for testing [02:30] mfillpot: it isn't even the "stable" it's the "testing" and the stuff is older than slack's [02:30] lol [02:31] well, i'm going to bed [02:31] feel free to kick/ban me for my blasphemy if you wish [02:31] BEGONE SINNER! REPENT! [02:31] :) [02:31] I have been thinking about making test packages for slack, rpm and deb to see how they differ and remind me of why I love slack so much [02:31] btw, ##slackerz is still there [02:32] oh, and using tasksel in debian and selecting "graphical desktop" is a mistake [02:32] nyRednek, go to bed so you can be banned [02:33] akmalhamdani (~giantpand@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:33] and keep us posted on the other annoying differences [02:33] mfillpot: wait 'til you get some some of the oddball stuff. 1 package on slack can be (up to at least) 3 on some other distros: client, server, dev [02:33] I also wish rsync was faster. [02:34] define 'faster' [02:34] wellllll....... [02:34] FASTER! [02:34] :3 [02:34] generating the file list or shoving stuff over the wire? [02:34] Shoving stuff over the wire. [02:34] switch to the red network cable - it makes your internets go faster [02:34] alphageek, I have seen those too, but the seperation can tend to be useful in some cases [02:34] for the latter, abuse '--compress' & '--compress-level' [02:35] alisonken1home <3 [02:35] alphageek, I don't want to compress. [02:35] Action: alphageek tends to use '--compress-level 9' for external<>internal transfers [02:35] alisonken1home, are you able to view pictures now? I could show you what I wanted to show rworkman for panzer tribute. [02:35] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-255-182.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:36] lfjob (rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [02:36] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Oops I quit by accident. [02:37] alphageek, I prefer adding a variable to a slackbuild to break it apart for me when I build my own packages [02:38] You know, I wonder how cloud computing will affect the direction Slackware is going. [02:39] lfjob, I think it will not change it much because slackware will still be needed for servers and developers [02:39] Hm.. [02:41] also do you really think everyone will quickly or easily drop personal computers, jsut the privacy concerns alone will slow that bandwagon [02:42] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-115-209.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:42] Well. [02:42] People trust online storages. [02:43] to a certain extent, would you store you bank information on a google or microsoft server? [02:43] lfjob: show me! [02:44] also, ISPs in many places around the world have long been in the habit of setting a monthly bandwidth quota on user accounts. whether it's a ghost quota or real numbers.. [02:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-242-28.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] rob0, you? WHY?! :) [02:45] mfillpot, in some way we are already doing that. We do that with Chase. [02:45] And other banking companies. [02:45] kinda useless having umpteen TB of 'cloud storage' when your ISP limits you to, say, 200GB/mo [02:45] True. [02:46] lfjob, they already have info for the accounts we have with them, but leaving an index of bank account information for all banks you do business with on a ms server is a while other case [02:47] um, ouch [02:47] I'd rather put my banking info on a billboard by the local highway. less folks would become aware of it :) [02:48] ki2azy (~krazy@99.189.52.141) joined ##slackware. [02:49] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:49] lfjob, um, show me your tribute to Panzer? [02:50] rob0, sure pm me your email, then I email it now, then I'm going to bed. [02:50] lfjob: back to rsync for a sec. depending what the data set is that you're trying to transfer is, preserving hardlinks (-H/--hardlinks), --compare-dest/--link-dest, & possibly others may be of interest [02:51] dasdaa (~das@udp116246uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] Gah. [02:52] Thank you though. [02:52] But it's just individual files. [02:52] Sigh let me go tos leep, perhaps I can sleep off this anxiety, more than anything else. [02:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owP3cHrp3b0 [02:53] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-48.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] pupit, that's not really impressive. [02:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TR_swxR2UE [02:54] I'm trying to play an audio cd and when I put it in the rom I get I/O errors in syslog 'Buffer I/O error on device sr0' but data cds work just fine, I have an entry in fstab /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user,ro 0 0 and I'm in /etc/group so for now I'm lost [02:56] dasdaa: audio cd's don't get mounted like data cd's - you have to use an audio program to access them [02:57] what program are you trying to use for the audio cd's? [02:57] Alrightttttt bedtime. Night all. [02:57] Nick change: lfjob -> rhisa [02:57] hasta la nini, rhisa [02:58] deadbeef [02:58] tried a different player? [02:58] no don't have anything else, just deadbeef [02:58] let me check the preferences [02:58] what version of slackware? [02:59] rhisa: ... [02:59] xmms, audacious, likely assorted programs in KDE & XFCE, several cli thingies.. there's always options [03:00] dasdaa: what does ls /var/log/packages/libcd* return? [03:01] my bad I guess all I needed to do was change fstab deadbeef is playing the CD [03:01] false alarm guys my bad ;p [03:01] well let me reboot and see if the log still shows the I/O errors [03:01] THANKS [03:01] brb [03:01] dasdaa (~das@udp116246uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0.0 Seconds ) [03:08] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.122) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:11] dasdaa (~dasdaa@udp116246uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] ok so audio cd working nice, but then why am I getting I/O errors in the logs when I just put the audio cd in the rom? [03:11] Here pastebin I/O errors -- http://pastebin.com/vcUWrL0V [03:14] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] anyone have some audio cds they can put in their rom and then look in /var/log/syslog and see if you are getting I/O errors too? [03:14] dirty disc? [03:14] scratched ? [03:14] disk is ok [03:15] OK asin in how [03:15] is it a store bought cd or a burnt [03:15] store audio cds [03:15] dasdaa: those messages were just the background processes trying to mount a data cd when you had an audio cd inserted [03:15] no harm [03:16] just noise [03:16] oh so that is going to happen all the time by default, you'll always see that? [03:16] might [03:16] hmm ok [03:16] as long as you know it's an audio cd and the audio program can play it you're ok [03:16] or could it mean with some scratches it's having a hard time reading it? [03:16] does it happen with different audio cds? [03:17] I think it did with all of them, let me try some others and see [03:17] THANKS [03:17] if it's scratched it's possible - but audio cd's should allow some scratching to still be playable [03:17] brb [03:17] depends on the scratches [03:17] and the player [03:17] just small scratches from age is all and use nothing hardcore [03:17] likely a variation of the errors one gets when putting a blank cd in a cdrw [03:18] probably [03:18] yeah ic [03:19] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [03:19] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [03:19] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:20] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [03:20] I only have a few audio cds and it does that on all of them and the scratches are very fine too [03:21] but do they play? [03:21] yeah [03:21] that's all that matters [03:21] they play and rip fine [03:22] but the thing is if they are good cds then we shouldn't be getting I/O errors [03:22] seems more like a bug to me... [03:22] again - you get i/o errors when trying to access media that is one format using a different format - and audio and data cd formats are entirely different [03:22] just because they play and rip, doesnt mean there's no errors on them [03:23] I ripped one in Windows on dbpoweramp and it came back all tracks accurate as a flac rip [03:23] for that matter, it could be a sign the drive's experiencing troubles of its own [03:24] however, mount is trying to mount the audio cd and find the format that was used on the cd - and audio cd doesn't have a data format that can be mounted [03:24] so I know the others are the same quality [03:24] yeah the rom maybe, cheapie laptop rom [03:24] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:25] not necessarily - read up on the track layout of a redbook audio cd and a data cd\ [03:25] as long as you don't try to automount a cd, then you shouldn't see those errors [03:26] this is what the logs show it as: [03:26] ATAPI: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7585H, KX04, max UDMA/100 [03:26] eh - not a bad drive. not the best but not bad [03:26] hmm [03:27] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:28] well I just stick the cd in, so how would you be automounting as example, you mean with a file manger, set to automount? [03:28] dasdaa: yes [03:29] I have pcmanfm but that doesn't automount, you have to click them to mount them [03:29] or a DE like LDE [03:29] KDE rather [03:29] I just run OpenBox is all [03:30] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:30] that was just an example [03:30] you have to look at your system and see what it's setup for [03:32] well the thing is, I can understand like in Windows when you put a cd in, it's going to spin up and get mounted, but I'm just sitting here in OpenBox with just my chat here in front of me, nothing else open and when I put a data cd in, why is it spinning up like it's trying to mount> [03:32] ? [03:32] this is the same with the audio cd too I see, it's spinning up... 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[03:39] well the only way we can be for sure is if someone here is just running like Blackbox, Flux, Openbox or something similar and see if they get the errors too in the logs [03:39] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-48.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:42] or even running a minimal cli slackware too [03:42] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:42] yea [03:43] kickback (~Unknown@122.163.106.237) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:43] ahh actually just from the term before booting into X popping a cd in ;p [03:43] "telinit 3" [03:43] slackware networking without X' [03:43] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] say on the subject of audio cds anything as nice as eac or dbpoweramp in Linux for ripping to flac? [03:44] don't know eac or dbpoweramp, so can't tell you there [03:44] actually, don't have any windows machines, and I don't use the wifes laptop either, so .... :) [03:45] dasdaa: think abcde can rip to flac [03:45] yeah, it does [03:46] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:46] I don't see any mention of flac just mp3 and ogg [03:47] http://lly.org/~rcw/abcde/page/ [03:48] dasdaa: http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html [03:48] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:48] dasdaa: OUTPUTTYPE="flac" [03:48] newslacker (root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [03:48] theres also rubyripper in SBo [03:49] its the closest to eac in terms of features [03:49] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:50] theres a newer version out thats even better [03:50] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:50] well is this the newest? ---> http://code.google.com/p/abcde/downloads/list [03:50] but its still in slackbuilds.org/pending so not available yet [03:51] ahhh changelog, looks like it is :) [03:51] Colin Tuckley Sat, 29 May 2010 09:43:01 +0100 [03:51] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:52] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [03:52] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:53] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:54] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:54] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:55] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Client Quit [03:57] thanks for the help guys, later... [03:57] dasdaa (~dasdaa@udp116246uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0.0 Seconds ) [03:57] troy_ (~troy@66.49.226.72) joined ##slackware. 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[04:23] zoran119: with quicktime plugin [04:23] where do i get it from... firefox cannot install it as an addon/plugin and there is nothing on sbo [04:25] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:26] .. [04:26] zoran119: http://linuxberg.ankara.edu.tr/files/quicktime4linux-2.0.0-src.tar.bz2 maybe that? [04:26] zoran119: or check slackbuilds.org [04:26] zoran119: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=quicktime&sv=13.1 [04:27] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:28] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.226.219) joined ##slackware. [04:28] that's a weird websire [04:28] *website [04:29] which? [04:29] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:29] libquicktime from sbo? will that work with firefox? [04:29] which one? [04:30] zoran119: first one address, works fine... 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[06:01] so I'm looking for people who have their access servers configured and are willing to share configuration :-) [06:02] slava_dp: can you provide a link that shows openVPN sees tun and tap as different? [06:05] http://serverfault.com/questions/21157/should-i-use-tap-or-tun-for-openvpn [06:09] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [06:20] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:22] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [06:29] has anyone successfully compiled 'crafty', the chess source engine? [06:40] it's over nine thousand! [06:44] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:45] dollars? [06:49] sahko: no, that's vegeta's catchy phrase [06:49] sirslacker (1000@s0069.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [06:50] who's vegeta? [06:56] someone in Dragon Ball Z [06:56] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [06:56] ...whats that? a game/film? 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[08:34] central authentication/logging for remote connections - typically used with access points (wired and wireless) [08:41] m00p (~topcat@buttonmoon.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:42] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Changing host [08:42] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [08:43] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [08:46] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [08:46] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:47] pete` (~user@011.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:49] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCE4C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Axius (~fd@92.85.215.111) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Nick change: Axius -> aigoo [08:56] hi [08:56] How can call the setup script to configurate the mouse from console? [08:57] from pkgtool? [08:57] didnt you ask the same question yesterday? [08:57] or during the weekend [08:58] sahko: yes, I have. [08:58] i also remember someone answering it [08:59] sahko: yes, it has. [09:00] grazymax (~grazymax@host218-23-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:00] so, didnt it work? [09:00] sahko: I ran pkgtool and it works. [09:02] john_dee (~id@95-29-15-32.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:04] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [09:05] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl5-194-113.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:09] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:10] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-171.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [09:14] groo (~groo@189-46-45-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:14] groo (~groo@189-46-45-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:15] I try to install the packages that I've had on the other system with slackpkg install-template and I get an error:slacku template not found! What should I do? [09:15] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [09:16] grazymax (~grazymax@host169-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[09:27] I believe if the template is already there, then it's already "installed" [09:27] need to review slackpkg docs and see what the template is for and how to use it [09:28] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:28] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-140-89.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:29] alisonken1lap: It an older template that I've used it on other slackware system. I want to install those pkg on this system. [09:30] Is xwmconfig still useable? [09:30] sure? [09:30] I have a friend that is asking about changing WMs [09:31] aigoo: also, need to make sure that the files in the template are valid packages for the current slackware that you're using - some packages have been removed since the last version [09:31] or have been updated [09:31] He said he tried xwmconfig and it didn't change his default WM (from KDE to xfce) [09:31] iirc xwmconfig does nothing more but creating symlinks to the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.* you want to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc usr13 [09:31] usr13: what Login manager does he use? [09:32] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl13-182-241.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:32] alisonken1lap: is the some version 13.0 of packages for both system. [09:32] Roin: Default one... I think kdm..? [09:32] then he can simply select XFCE from KDM [09:33] Roin: I told him that... but he is asking why xwmconfig didn't work [09:33] it always remembers the last selected DE/WM option, so he doesnt need to change it all the time again [09:33] usr13: maybe KDM always using KDE as default Desktop enviroment? [09:33] alisonken1lap: I get this: slacku template not found! when I run install-template slacku / What am I doing wrong? [09:34] Perhaps xwmconfig is for those of us who use runlevel 3 and startx? [09:34] rob0: also works with XDM [09:34] and Slim [09:34] aigoo: is the template filename "slacku.template" or just "slacku" ? [09:35] alisonken1lap: is just slacku. [09:35] rename it to slacku.tempate and see if that helps [09:36] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.32.11.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:37] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:37] rob0: There is another way to start X? [09:38] runlevel 4 autostarts X on restart, otherwise after setting to runlevel 3, login and run "startx" [09:38] alisonken1lap: I get this: slacku.tempate template not found! [09:38] "template" - looks like you missed the L in there [09:39] tem - as in temporary, plate as in dinner plate [09:39] or temp as in temporary and late as in late to the party [09:39] take your pick [09:39] aigoo: ^^^ [09:39] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [09:40] spiral_architect (~dan@164.64.40.243) joined ##slackware. [09:40] alisonken1lap: slacku.template template not found! [09:40] pete`` (~user@025.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:41] join ##slackware [09:41] is the template in /etc/slackpkg/templates? [09:41] spiral_architect: again? :O [09:42] XGizzmo: yes, it is. [09:42] Tnx info... [09:42] yeah sorry. [09:42] I've passed it on and I think I have satisfied his question(s). [09:42] pete` (~user@011.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:44] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.32.11.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:44] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:45] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-242-28.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:45] sirslacker (1000@s1810.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:46] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-181-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] anyone know of a usb wireless adapter that works out of the box with 13.1? [09:47] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-103-105.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:48] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [09:49] I think many require firmware. If you look on a site with user reviews, such as Newegg, and you see reviewers who had no trouble getting one working with Ubuntu et al, it will be easy in Slackware too. [09:50] Mowah (~Mowah@c-1689e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [09:52] Thats actually why I asked. Picked up an edimax that was supposed to be no problem at all according to reviews, but I'm not able to get the driver compiled for 2.6.33.4. [09:53] compiled? why are you doing that? What driver? [09:53] spiral_architect, I have cheap one D-Link DWL-G122 also needs firmware but works OK, it's ralink chip uses rt73 module I think, I have other cheap TP-LINK TL-WN422G v1 using zd1211rw and firmware but this not working good, only with win driver and ndiswrapper. Look here http://linuxwireless.org/ [09:54] I had a zd1211rw, worked fine. [09:55] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [09:56] dont use ralink hawrdware if you can afford to, its not that linux friendly [09:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:56] rob0, it working, but I have ~-20% less signal with linux driver + firmware [09:57] everyone else puts in they are late 1 hr or .5 hr but not him [09:58] rob0, ^^^ dlink with less output power and integrated antenna works better with linux driver + firmware then tp-link with more power and external antenna ^^^ [09:59] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:59] ieaeaa (~ieaeaa@89-168-140-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:00] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:03] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] sahko: ralink hardware works well with Linux. Why that remark? [10:07] pete`` (~user@025.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:08] IIRC once I saw that the FSF recommended Ralink above all others, but I can't find that recommendation now. [10:10] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:11] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-181-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:12] ralink made a mess of their online docs [10:12] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-97-125.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:22] alienBOB: well, first of all since we have the same netbook, consider how well the wifi works. also search google for "site:blogs.gnome.org few surprised staging driver suckage" for a better analysis [10:22] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@m4e5e36d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] i dont know if thats the situation with all their hardware though [10:22] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@m4e5e36d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] sorry got to go [10:24] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@m0e5e36d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [10:24] flambaz (~flambers@92.90.b6.static.xlhost.com) joined ##slackware. [10:25] Fish_Kungfu (~yaaic@m0e5e36d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:25] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [10:26] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [10:27] hi all. i've compiled my kernel with kvm static support. where can i find a guide to start a minimal linux distribution with kvm ? [10:27] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] rob0, I got an edimax ew7318ug. They provide an older source download for linux, but it must be compiled. [10:27] do i have to install qemu related pkgs? [10:28] yes [10:28] this is a good read for you http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page [10:28] bitlord, thanks for the info [10:29] spiral_architect: lsusb(8) [10:29] np. spiral_architect, that is only my experience with those adapters [10:29] i cannot understand why this qemu 'trashy' pkgs are needed. are there other user space tools? [10:30] that was fast, you read the docs on the page i posted already? [10:30] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:31] ok i'll try one of these [10:31] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools [10:33] I get this errors when I run make menuconfig:scripts/basic/fixdep.c:380: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' [10:33] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:35] sahko: I was busy at work, sorry for the delay. I have an exceptionally well-working wireless connection on my eeepc.. many GB of ddata transfers and zero issues for as long as I own it [10:36] sounds good alienBOB [10:36] hahahaha, good joke [10:36] hehe, I just realized, I don't know what wireless driver my eeepc uses! [10:36] (oh, it wasn't? /o\ ) [10:37] rob0: ath9k? :D [10:37] everything Just Works [10:37] My Samsung netbook has an atheros card here :x [10:37] eeepc is atheros, innit? [10:37] or maybe ralink (one of those two) [10:37] ath5k, and I used to know that :) [10:38] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [10:38] I have a ralink in my eee, only has some issues connecting after hibernate sometimes [10:38] yeah i think they might have moved from ralink to atheros at some point (or vice versa) [10:40] When I first put Slackware on it, I experimented with making it an access point. [10:40] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:41] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [10:41] Does see this errors before:scripts/basic/fixdep.c:380: warning? I'm trying to compile a new kernel. [10:41] grazymax (~grazymax@host169-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:41] aigoo, you've been asking for days now. the answer "do a full install" [10:42] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.32.11.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:42] expecting people here to help you with individual packages because you chose a "minima" install is unrealistic [10:43] mancha: I've install all pkgs from d. [10:43] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [10:43] aigoo: that isn't quite a full install [10:43] aigoo: you'll need packages from L too [10:44] The compilers require at least one package in L. Perhaps more [10:44] install all a,ap,d,l [10:44] alienBOB: ok [10:45] and n [10:45] you prolly want k too [10:51] m00p (~topcat@buttonmoon.demon.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:52] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] xovan, read their changelog to see if any of it applies to you :> [11:00] but that means I have to move my hands for something other than typing and clicking on funny links [11:00] :D [11:00] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Wiren (lfjs@78.251.239.77) joined ##slackware. [11:01] mmm bugfixes! [11:02] 0 [11:02] whoops [11:02] any idea if they intend on updating konqueror with html 5 stuff? [11:03] I think that's a qt thing, not konq ? [11:03] It does support it already but I expect they are improving it [11:04] well there's khtml support and webkit support which = the qt I expect [11:04] meh [11:04] i've given up on konq. being a usable browser, personally [11:04] it doesn't yet work with youtube but I have managed to get some videos to work [11:06] sevens (~sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) joined ##slackware. [11:06] sevens (~sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:06] dive with or without the flash plugin? [11:06] xovan, I'm talking about html5 video [11:06] flash works fine [11:06] ah [11:06] :p [11:08] some guy in germany presented a howto for using flash to turn a users computer as a spy machine on the user! [11:09] you mean, accessing the webcam? [11:09] Morpheus (~Chester@41.236.229.214) joined ##slackware. [11:09] and microphione [11:09] good luck. mine's switched off, and the mic. [11:09] hmm wheres a good place to download stuff from -current? :P [11:09] still there is always echolon [11:10] or however's it's spelt [11:10] echelon [11:10] FrankD, I find tds servers are pretty good - in the USA category [11:12] ah good deal, files are actually there :D [11:12] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:12] thanks dive [11:17] KillerV (~unlimited@201.17.241.160) joined ##slackware. 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[11:40] hrmm, one thing i don't like about installpkg is permission-related. [11:40] what about permissions? [11:41] say for example you have /var=755 and some package installs /var/blob/bleep/ and has the whole path from /var on down as 700, your system /var changes to 700 [11:41] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-88-56-145.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] interesting [11:41] that is a bit of a problem [11:41] that actually is a major problem [11:42] anyone know if there is a packages version of gstreamer plugins for 0.10.23? [11:42] s/packages/packaged/ [11:42] i haven't specifically ran into that though mancha& where have you seen this? [11:43] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [11:46] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.85.75) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:46] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:46] heviarti_ (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. 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[12:02] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:02] hi, how can USB automount work for a normal user other than root? [12:03] add that user to the plugdev group [12:05] thanks gniks [12:05] np [12:05] mancha: what you describe is a broken package. Yes, pkgtools are vulnerable to broken packages. [12:05] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:07] maybe broken is a bit harsh...inconsistent with slackware's system privileges. different distribs, after all, have different defaults on system dirs. [12:07] more like inconsistent with linux standards, not just slack :p [12:07] so i guess i agree that it is broken in the sense that it is not consistent with slackware's defaults. [12:07] gniks. wrong. [12:08] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:08] I think changing umask can do that too [12:08] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:08] re package [12:08] i have yet to find a distro that doesn't use 755 as the default folder permissions [12:09] nope [12:09] sounds fishy [12:09] gniks, what's the shell command to do that? [12:09] mancha, where did you get the package from? [12:09] add my user to plugdev group [12:10] oak, just open up /etc/group and add the user there& i don't remember the moduser flags [12:10] ok thanks [12:10] gpasswd -a [12:10] I wouldn't hack /etc/group* directly :> [12:10] thanks thrice` [12:12] thrice`, no do I have to restart some service? [12:12] now* [12:12] still getting "Failed to mount "8G Removable Volume"." [12:12] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Oak, you will need to logout completely and back in [12:12] yes, log out completely of your user account (X and the shell) and log back in [12:13] okie, thanks, will do that later... [12:14] sudo 1.7.4p4 installs /var/db as 700 [12:19] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [12:22] re: direct editing or /etc/group. there are vipw and vigr, which check the syntax for you ;-) [12:22] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [12:24] this is why gpasswd was invented though ;) [12:24] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [12:24] this is ridiculous.. [12:25] grazymax (~grazymax@host169-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[12:36] I get this error:-bash: uname-r: command not found [12:36] try a space before the -r [12:36] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [12:36] Skywise: ok [12:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:40] |Slacker| (~cris@189.117.236.161) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:41] wertik_ (~wertik@89-178-30-73.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:41] u (~u@92.24.117.152) joined ##slackware. [12:42] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Nick change: u -> Guest19477 [12:43] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [12:43] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:44] cupucupu (~cupucupu@202.93.37.80) joined ##slackware. [12:45] IcHi_g0 (~ice@182.0.179.242) joined ##slackware. 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[12:55] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:55] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:55] Is there any particular reason why suspending while firefox is running with gmail would cause the resume to lag and the disk to go nuts on resume? [12:56] gmail uses javascript extensively? [12:56] and java? [12:56] not java [12:57] that happens to me too, it seems related to sound somehow. I just unload my gmail tab before suspend (unload is a bartab extension feature) [12:57] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.32.175) joined ##slackware. [12:57] sound? what? [12:59] somebody can explane me about how to update kernel? [13:00] is the newer kernel already a slackware package or did you make it yourself? [13:00] alisonken1home: there aren't new packages yet for the newer kernels [13:01] newer [13:01] gniks: depends on which version of slackware he's on :) [13:02] this is true, but i just assumed he wanted the recent kernel :p [13:02] Sappys, http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [13:02] and how the magic with compiling happens? [13:03] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-103-105.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [13:03] u_ (~u@92.24.117.152) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:03] first you configure it with the appropriate options ("make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"), then make, make modules, make install, make modules install, then updated lilo [13:04] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] but you really need to know what you're doing if you're making your own kernel [13:04] (as far as config options go) [13:04] don't for get the _ for make modules_install :) [13:04] Sappys, there are several guides on slackwiki.org [13:04] eveyone has their own methods [13:06] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [13:07] NaCl: firefox itself? [13:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Sappys: that guide says to cp the config file from slackware as template... but after then, I do: make oldconfig then: make menuconfig they left out a step (oldconfig)... i always do that, maybe it doesn't matter [13:09] Raggs (~x@pat.kdl.org) joined ##slackware. [13:10] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [13:10] Also, "make" default target has included "modules" since 2.6. 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[13:18] IcHi_g0 (~ice@182.0.179.242) left irc: [13:20] check out this wild python command [13:20] python -c "from struct import pack; print pack('5b', (41*len('99')), pow(8,2)+20, 4900**0.5, range(78)[-1], 10)" [13:21] does python care about extra whitespaces? [13:21] yes [13:22] tank-man: whitespace (tabs and spaces) are very significant in python [13:23] Help!! I tried that and now it's installing Windows!! [13:23] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [13:23] rob0: doh! [13:24] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:24] Sajmon (500@ej185.netikka.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:24] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:25] foobarz: "make oldconfig" and "copy the current slackware config" are the same thing. [13:25] hi all! [13:25] adaptr: not quite - first you "copy the current slackware config", then you "make oldconfig" :) [13:25] hmm, when i start my slack in start up opens two xcaht`s at same time, but in start up list is one. somebody knows why? [13:25] cupucupu (cupucupu@202.93.37.80) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:25] unless they've changed the kernel more than I've read [13:26] Sappys: do you also have an xchat in "autostart" mode from xchat? [13:26] i was just joking around a bit with some audio settings and now there is no audio output :( how can i reset a thing like that? [13:26] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [13:26] Hopsa (~Hopsa@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [13:26] alisonken1home: urm. the config created by menuconfig is called ".config". this is loaded when you run "make menuconfig". where does "oldconfig" come in ? [13:27] adaptr: you take a copy of your current config (like "zcat /proc/config.gz >/usr/src/linux/.config" ) [13:27] okay [13:27] alisonken1home, where can i check that? [13:28] alisonken1home: and then what ? [13:28] then "make oldconfig" will compare the old config file (/usr/src/linux/.config) and compare it with a rebuilt config from the new kernel sources [13:28] oh, you mean when you UPGRADE. yes, then yes [13:28] then it asks you about the differences it finds between them [13:28] adaptr: no - UPGRADE is different [13:28] for a kernel REBUILD, "make oldconfig" and "config" are identical [13:28] (I always use an O=directory and never change anything under /usr/src/linux/) [13:28] alisonken1home: you're describing a kernel upgrade [13:29] adaptr: more like a kernel change - but it has become associated with a kernel upgrade [13:29] is there a difference ? [13:29] i ran alsaconfig and now it[ working fine (Y), so never mind :) [13:30] finally got my work desktop on 2.6.35.4 :) [13:30] depends on your definition of "upgrade" - but again, for practical purposes, it's usually associtated with compiling a newer kernel than what you have, so "upgrade" would technically be correct [13:30] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:31] are you saying "make oldconfig" will correctly identify an OLDER kernel ? [13:31] i.e. it's two-way compatible [13:31] haven't tried it in that way, so can't say for sure [13:32] or are you referring to a kernel change from -mm to -ck or such [13:32] can go either way with that one [13:33] rob0: you're more of an advanced user already :) [13:33] he's just faking [13:33] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:34] anyway - off to bed [13:34] Mowah (1000@c-7d8de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Guest16644 (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:36] if you are compiling additional modules for your kernel from some package, like alsa-driver, it wants to see a "fully configured" kernel source code directory... so if you use some output/build directory that leaves the /usr/src/linux untouched, doesn't that leave the source code in unconfigured state that some kernel modules' build won't like? [13:37] adaptr: no, firefox itself is fine [13:37] huh ? [13:38] foobarz: 3rd party modules have no impact on the existing kernel tree. the situation you describe doesn't occur unless you are replacing an actual kernel module with an external one [13:38] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:38] in which case it isn't a 3rd party module, but a replacement for a kernel module [13:39] adaptr: bah, meant adrien [13:39] adrien: no, firefox itself is fine [13:39] NaCl: I guessed as much - it happens a lot [13:39] NaCl: ^^ [13:39] NaCl: you know I love bashing it :-) [13:40] I know [13:41] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:42] g0v (~g0v@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:43] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:30] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-56-29.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:31] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-114-239.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:33] how to do 'make oldconfig && make prepare'? [14:34] i need to know becouse - http://paste.org/pastebin/view/22127 [14:34] "how to" do something that's given to you verbatim ? [14:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.82.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] wow [14:35] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [14:35] hello [14:36] I have a small problem with umask. My default umask value in root is 0066 but when I look into /etc/profile and /etc/login.defs I have 022. So where can make this value the default one ? [14:37] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:37] *I* [14:37] janemba: that's not a useful - or even valid - umask. [14:38] janemba, maybe into your ".bashrc" [14:39] adaptr: in fact this is to avoid a permissions changing when I install a package through installpkg [14:39] um.. slackware takes care of that for you [14:39] Ansa89: well I have no .bashrc so I decided to put one with umask 022 content and it doesn't work [14:39] adaptr: well...in fact no but maybe I'm looking the wrong way...??? [14:40] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [14:40] janemba: wherever I test it, I get 0022 [14:40] janemba, sorry....out of ideas [14:40] slackware as user, as root, ubuntu, user, root.. whatever [14:40] so I don't know where you're getting this from [14:41] Ansa89: :( [14:41] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:42] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:42] adaptr: my umask value or the changing permissions for each install ? [14:42] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:43] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.129.240) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:44] your umask value [14:44] both sound like serious issues, and they may well be related [14:44] yep [14:44] are you logged in as root when you get that, or did you su.do [14:45] su/do [14:45] I su only [14:45] janemba: umask 0066 for root is definitely not configured by Slackware. Only you can do that [14:46] but you shouldn't [14:46] wait - do you have selinux or some such configured ? [14:46] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [14:46] alienBOB: A guy notice me about my umask value. I didn't play with it [14:47] adaptr: nop [14:47] I mentioned it a couple of days ago janemba [14:47] Umask 0022 is what Slackware sets for root and other users [14:47] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-114-239.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:47] or any other distro for that matter [14:48] you might want to restrict it further if, say, you're segregating users into specific groups and you only want them to be able to set permissions to themselves or their group [14:49] but those are special cases [14:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-242-10.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] alienBOB: oh this was you :) well I look into different config files and I see 0022 value but when you noticed it to me I only umask 0022 before installing a package to test and I let it like this for later config so now I noticed that the value is correctly set but before warn me about this I didn't touch the umask things...at least not directly I presume :( [14:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:50] adaptr: hmmm [14:50] janemba: are you running Slackware or a slackware-derived distro? [14:50] janemba: next time, try to report an issue that's actually an issue - and preferably one you have seen with your own eyes ? [14:51] [20:43:15] alienBOB: A guy notice me about my umask value. I didn't play with it [14:51] that's Fail [14:51] Action: adaptr digs up link to rute [14:51] alienBOB: slackware [14:51] adaptr: ok [14:52] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[15:04] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Hello [15:06] hi diabel [15:07] lighttpd v nginx, what would you use? [15:09] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.82.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:12] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [15:14] dudu (~dudu@unaffiliated/dudu) joined ##slackware. [15:17] dudu (dudu@unaffiliated/dudu) left ##slackware. [15:17] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:19] apache [15:20] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [15:21] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:24] IIS [15:27] Action: ScreamerX takes his gun [15:28] Action: ScreamerX shots down adaptr [15:28] apache :-) [15:30] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.129.240) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:31] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:31] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) joined ##slackware. [15:32] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:33] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:33] does one need to convert their wpa2psk passcode to hex before using it in wicd [15:34] shouldn't need to, no [15:34] nope [15:34] Hoogin (hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [15:34] that's unusual because I can't connect to my router, even using the same password as I'm using on my windows computer [15:35] how can I convert a string passkey into a hex passcode [15:36] is it in hex on the router? [15:36] no [15:36] wpa_passphrase [15:36] wpa_passphrase ssid pass [15:37] where is that located [15:37] locate can tell you [15:37] whereis wpa_passphrase [15:37] wow that's awesome [15:37] need to be root or have it in path [15:38] phil___, all files are listed in /var/log/packages/. use grep :> [15:38] and dont type in your password at the bash-prompt [15:38] ok thanks, I'm new to linux so this is all new info [15:38] what? [15:38] phil___, no problem, this is different on all distros :> [15:38] because it will be logged [15:38] for example, I would "grep wpa_passphrase /var/log/packages/*" [15:38] oops too late [15:38] thrice`: we all know you run a bare LFS ,but you chroot into slackware when you need to appear normal [15:38] well this is my personal computer anyway, how else do I do that ScreamerX [15:39] just run: man wpa_passphrase [15:39] and read :-) [15:39] adaptr, sounds like too much work :> [15:39] ScreamerX: thanks [15:39] if it's your own computer, that's fine :) [15:39] thrice`: yeah it is [15:40] still gives me a bad password error :( [15:41] phil___, is your router set to TKIP or AES? [15:41] you're positive you've chosen wpa2 instead of wpa1 or something silly? [15:41] make sure in wicd it's set for psk passphrase and not preshared key [15:41] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:42] thrice`: I have chosen the option WPA 1/2 (Passphrase) in wicd [15:42] Action: ScreamerX preferes wpa_supplicant(.conf) [15:42] ScreamerX: how do I do that [15:42] emacs /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [15:43] emacs /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [15:43] man wpa_supplicant.conf [15:43] brb restarting the internet [15:43] heheh [15:43] omg, not the internet [15:43] NO [15:43] dont do it [15:43] Action: dive gets discoed [15:43] ooh noo dave.. I can feel my mind slippinggg [15:43] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:44] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-33-241.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] ScreamerX: when editing rc.inet1.conf, do I create a new entry for wlan0, because there are already 4 entries for eth0, eth1, eth2, and eth3 [15:45] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-104-4.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] indubitableness (indubitab@adsl-99-33-33-241.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [15:45] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:45] adaptr, if you staring singing daiiiiiisy daaiiiisy I will start worring [15:46] s/staring/start/ [15:46] ScreamerX: but they are empty [15:46] phil___ which interfaces do you have? eth0 [15:46] ? [15:47] phil___: you can use any of the existing ones. Or: "man rc.inet1.conf" [15:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) joined ##slackware. [15:47] alienBOB: so do I change one of them to wlan0? [15:47] Indeed [15:47] phil___, ifname[4] has most of the settings already so use that imo [15:47] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:48] dive: there is no entry for ifname in my rc.inet1.conf [15:48] or read alienBOB's excellent howto on slack networking [15:48] dive: that's indeed what I usually do [15:48] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:49] phil___: apart from the "man rc.inet1.conf" command you can visit http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [15:49] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [15:51] or you could learn how to use the shell and read the init scripts :) [15:51] if there's no entries at all for ifname in there I'm wondering what's happening [15:51] where do I insert the new entry for my eth0? [15:51] the word ifname does not appear in my conf file [15:52] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:52] except in comments [15:52] I will uncomment them and fill in my info and see if that helps [15:53] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.32.175) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:53] anyone else noticed no commits in 2.6 recently? [15:53] a dry spell this long happened when linus was on vacation but he's back now, innit? [15:56] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [15:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:58] mancha, are you running the git kernel? :-) [15:58] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:59] no, i just see the dates on the kernel.org site sometimes [16:00] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:00] looks like they are dealing with old 2.4 kernel [16:00] it must have had some issue [16:01] there was CVE-2010-1173 but that doesn't hold up the entire dev team :) [16:02] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:06] oh i know, linuxcon-brazil (d'oh) [16:06] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-33-241.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] I can't start wpa_supplicant, I type in /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -wlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d and it just prints the help [16:07] even though that command line is pretty much what the man page said how to start it [16:07] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] are you root ? [16:08] phil___: "-i wlan0" instead of "-wlan0" [16:08] -wlan0 is bogus [16:08] and maybe a -Dwext for good measure :> [16:08] so you didn't do "pretty much what the manpage said " [16:08] wow.. phil___, you ain't gt it working yet? [16:09] heviarti: nope, still trying [16:09] I will not give up [16:09] I'm about to [16:09] you need to improve your reading skills htough [16:09] got a printer fighting me [16:09] brand spanking new [16:09] expensive ass [16:09] useless piece of shit printer [16:09] mancha: no, I thought their interface was named iwlan0, mine was wlan0, so I changed it [16:09] phil___, close :> -i is interface [16:09] but really -i was the flag and there's no space between that and the name [16:10] what does the synopsis line say in the manpage? [16:10] you can add a space in all of them, wpa_supplicant's syntax is just stupid [16:10] phil___: i reccommend a bag of weed, 5 liters of jolt cola, and no sleep till it works. [16:10] anyone running a brother printer in here? [16:10] which is why front-ends must exist for wpa_supplicant [16:10] heviarti: I will take your suggestion to heart [16:10] been asking in the ##cups channel but that room is full of people asking each other why their printer's don't work [16:11] phil___: that's how i got dns working the first time... My friend told me i was reciting the config files in my sleepafterward. [16:11] bag of weed would be nice [16:11] lol [16:11] hah [16:12] almost as good as the time i went to sleep at 3am stoned after reading a fortran book for five hours. [16:12] wow many phone calls are supremely irritating when trying to get something to work [16:13] I was recrded speaking the source code of a program that would sort birds by beak size... [16:13] brb restarting internet [16:14] Action: heviarti runs... The internet is gonna reboot [16:14] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:14] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [16:19] i don't smoke weed anymore. too much future-seeing. [16:20] I don't smoke weed anymore either [16:20] because no one fucking has any for sale [16:20] not that I haven't tried to get some [16:20] I would grow it if it wasn't a felony [16:20] i don't smoke weed anymore, heroin is so much nicer [16:20] I don't want to get high that bad [16:20] hah [16:20] (j/k) [16:21] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [16:21] it's not a crime here [16:21] you should move [16:21] or californye-ey [16:21] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:21] indubitableness: you shulda knwn me back when I was moving 20 pound at a time outta Oregon... [16:23] Yes I should' [16:23] ve [16:23] oops [16:23] It's been years since I've bought so much as a pound [16:23] nickel and dimes [16:23] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.178) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Halves and Ounces occasionally [16:24] !topic plz [16:24] drug talk gets boring [16:24] to non drug users [16:24] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:25] when I run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1, should I run it with the parameter wlan0_restart [16:25] yes [16:25] when I do that, it says [16:26] error for wireless request "Set Nickname" SET failed on device wlan0 ; operation not supported [16:26] that's ok - it's a bug in slackware' [16:26] er, the wireless init. it should still be working despite that warning [16:27] indubitableness, exactly :> [16:27] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:28] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-179-192.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:28] we were done talking about drugs anyway [16:28] I wish I could get this friggen printer working [16:29] ok when it passes the SET failed error, it says dhcpcd: wlan0: waiting for carrier, then says timed out [16:29] it's looking for a file in /usr/lib64/ but the driver is 32 bit and installed to /usr/local [16:29] and the file it's looking for specifically doesn't exist in the driver packages [16:29] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:29] so I can't even create a symbolic link [16:30] $140 dollars on a printer because it has linux drivers and they don't even friggen work [16:32] I think I broke what little I had, now it won't even see any networks [16:32] in wicd [16:33] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. 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[16:44] dhcp_hostname is a dns hostname, the name of your computer ("home-pc"), but it's usually only necessary if you're connecting to an Internet Service Provider who requires you to provide a hostname [16:46] ok thanks [16:46] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:51] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [16:52] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:52] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [16:53] phil___ (~chatzilla@66.69.109.178) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:54] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] still I'm not able to get wireless working D: [16:56] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:57] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) left ##slackware. [16:58] Today at IFA in Berlin AMD announced the Ontario and Zacate TDPs as well as shared a photo of a low power AMD Fusion APU (possibly Ontario?). The Ontario APU is rated at 9W, while Zacate is rated at 18W. [16:58] rar, sorry! [16:59] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:59] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [17:00] adrien: APU? [17:01] part of the cpu+gpu on the same package thing [17:01] short news is http://www.anandtech.com/show/3899/amd-reveals-first-fusion-apu-tdps-9w-for-netbooks-18w-for-notebooks [17:01] Oh I see thanks [17:01] thank you :D [17:01] but there's a lot [17:01] more [17:02] basicaly, we could get atom's power consumption with something much more powerful and probably less expensive [17:02] and with good graphics [17:04] Sounds good, maybe a little bit to good? [17:04] nvidia is probably on its way out [17:04] tekzilla (~jon@d067031.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:04] I mean AMD graphics, linux support and so on @.@ [17:05] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] heviarti_ (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [17:06] tekzilla (~jon@d067252.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [17:06] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:07] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-171.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:11] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:13] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-86-89.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:13] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:15] Roin: the radeon kernel module is very good [17:15] and improving [17:15] heviarti_ (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:15] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:15] also, I don't think it's "too" good: if these are the real TDPs, you know consumption won't get over [17:15] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [17:16] and you can expect usual consumption to be half that, so even if it takes some more energy than atom, it should provide more power too, and it would be good for notebooks with very good battery life [17:17] hm... [17:18] Well I'd like more power at same power consumption :D [17:18] I dont think size matters to much, I mean if its only about 1-3mm since the 10" netbooks are already quite big [17:21] that's the goal, but currently the cpu doesn't matter that much for netbooks: a 20% change in power consumption won't change the battery life by more than 5 to 10% I think (ok, that could mean a full hour ;p ) [17:21] Roin: intel wants to put atom in phones [17:21] o_O [17:22] maybe not atoms actually [17:22] but they have or are making < 1W parts [17:22] I think when that happens the low power, sub-notebook/netbook market needs more competition :D [17:23] definitely =) [17:23] I hope his laptop will survive 6 more months so I have choice =) [17:23] his=? [17:23] I thought that's what the atoms were made for [17:23] mobile devices [17:24] that's what they were jabbering about when it debuted [17:24] indubitableness: yeah but compare a 10" netbook with a mobile phone [17:24] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:24] And since Atoms are the only CPU's on that market I'd imagine intel became a bit lazy(?) [17:25] seems that way [17:26] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-157-69.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Roin: this* [17:26] oh ok :) [17:26] Roin: yeah, competition is absolutely needed [17:26] okay so apparently when you install the jdk package from /extra in slackware 13.0, it doesn't get added to the root users path [17:26] without amd, we would probably have kept pentium 4 for much longer [17:26] (toasters \o/ ) [17:27] indeed [17:27] aceofspades19: I think it should as long as you're using a login shell (so that /etc/profile is executed) [17:28] well it didn't and i had to manually add it to my path [17:28] spiral_architect (~dan@164.64.40.243) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:29] Not the end of the world there [17:29] unless it took hours to figure out [17:29] in which case [17:29] the world is doomed! [17:29] DOOOOOMED! [17:29] I'm getting tired of this printer. I don't even have any clue what to try next [17:30] I just think that the install script should set the path properly [17:30] Action: Hoogin Runs around in a cricle and hides behind the sofa [17:30] it should [17:30] aceofspades19: had to do what /etc/profile.d/jre.sh does? (I know it's RE, not DK) [17:30] which one you packaged it! [17:30] I got my lynchin' stick [17:30] cane [17:30] rope [17:31] Action: Hoogin Runs around in a circle and hides behind the sofa [17:31] adrien: I haven't looked at that file but I'm guessing thats correct [17:32] yeah it is [17:33] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [17:33] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-157-69.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:34] so I guess you only need to log in as root with a login shell [17:34] (or source /etc/profile) [17:34] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] arg, I am still getting the bad password error with wicd [17:35] no matter what I try [17:35] I've got a tiny adorable kitten sleeping on my foot [17:35] phil___, did you get wpa_supplicant working? [17:36] no, it also doesn't work [17:36] dhcpcp or whatever doesn't ever work [17:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:36] dhcpcd will only work after wpa_supplicant has connected [17:36] how can I start wpa_supplicant [17:36] so you need to check that first [17:36] I have edited the two files that one guy suggested [17:37] to the configuration of my network [17:37] nothing ever works [17:37] wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [17:37] or something like that from my confussled memory [17:37] Try setting the network to WEP encryption or just an open connection and see if dhcpcd will get you connected [17:37] go_openoffice is a pain in the ass to build [17:37] if not it may be a problem with the wireless adapter or it's drivers [17:37] its^ [17:37] and just to give you a sense of magnitude, go_openoffice is a cakewalk comopared to ooo [17:38] does ifconfig wlan0 up work? [17:38] I wonder what version of Slackware phil___ uses [17:38] Roin: I downloaded it from the website 3 days ago [17:38] dive: yes [17:38] 13.1? k [17:38] mancha: heh really? [17:39] yep [17:39] mancha: what do you mean , a cakewalk? [17:39] go_ooo's claim to fame is "we simplified the process of compiling ooo" [17:39] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-207-114.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:39] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-207-114.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:39] A walk where cakes are granted to you [17:39] indubitableness: :p [17:39] cakewalk=something easy [17:40] when I do the wpa_supplicant, it says [17:40] mancha: whats harder about ooo to build then go_ooo? [17:40] CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys [17:40] try it [17:40] trying to associate with ... [17:40] associated with ... [17:40] and then the disconnected event again [17:40] over and over in a loop [17:40] ah, well it has some MS related stuff too IIRC, since it was created by novell, after the deal with MS [17:40] aN_ (aNonymous@1862035573.rec.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:40] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-88-56-145.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:40] stuff the OOo doesnt include [17:41] phil___, well sounds like wrong pass then [17:41] mancha: no thanks I like to keep my sanity [17:41] dive: it's absolutely not [17:41] wicd gives me the bad password error when I try to connect with it [17:41] but I am 100% sure it is the right password [17:42] sanity's overrated [17:42] especially in here [17:42] insanity is underrated [17:42] afk [17:42] mancha: how many hours does it take to build ooo? [17:42] phil___, I don't know what to suggest really, except maybe change pass on router an then in wicd/wpa_supplicant and try again [17:43] dive: I've changed the password 100 times to stuff like asdfasdf and it still doesn't work [17:43] dive: could it be a driver issue? [17:43] dive: I've also removed the password and had no encryption, but then wicd says "Cannot Get IP Address" [17:43] maybe you should just invest in some cat5e [17:44] what is that [17:44] ethernet cable [17:45] that's not an option though [17:45] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-211-202.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-211-202.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] where I am, there are no ethernet plugins [17:45] it's just wireless [17:45] sounds like a horror movie =/ [17:45] drill lots of holes and get a really really really long ethernet cord [17:45] I might just have to install an easier version of linux [17:45] I really want slack to work [17:46] what card do you have? [17:46] but it won't cooperate [17:46] I could guess it is a driver issue, when my wifi driver here crashed and I incorrectly reloaded it I had the same message [17:46] I have a broadcom card [17:46] does the b43 driver work with it? [17:46] I installed fwcutter and the broadcom firmware with some other guys yesterday [17:46] yes b43 driver works since fwcutter and the firmware [17:46] phil___: how are you on the internet right now? [17:46] I am using the wireless from another laptop with windows 7 on it [17:46] which works perfectly [17:46] ok,i am going to play a game called "i don't beliege you" [17:47] mancha: what [17:47] can you post the output of "dmesg | grep b43" [17:47] yes [17:47] mancha: that's a fun game [17:47] after you modprobe b43 [17:47] beliege? [17:47] Nick change: Asmadeus -> Asma [17:47] aceofspades19: yeah, beliege [17:48] Nick change: Asma -> Asmadeus [17:48] what does that mean? [17:48] mancha: the output is very large and I can't paste it on pastebin since the computer it's on is not on the internet [17:48] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [17:48] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:48] does it have a line "Loading firmware version..." [17:48] yes lots [17:48] they all say [17:49] phil___: do you have a flash drive? [17:49] b43-phy0: loading firmware version 478.104 (a date) [17:49] aceofspades19: yes [17:49] perfect. [17:49] iwconfig wlan0 [17:49] does that show your interface? [17:49] mancha: yes [17:50] iwlist wlan0 scan [17:50] you could always just output to a file on the flashdrive and put it on your current computer but it doesn't seem nessecary in this case [17:50] does that show APs? [17:50] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.21) joined ##slackware. [17:50] mancha: it used to, but now it says "interface doesn't support scanning, network is down" [17:50] mancha: I used to be able to do that [17:50] mancha: and it would work [17:50] phil___: try ifconfig wlan0 up [17:50] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFA50.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:50] then try iwlist wlan0 scan [17:51] iwconfig wlan0 <-- what Mode is it in? [17:51] ok, now iwlist wlan0 scan lists access points [17:51] but it did that before too [17:51] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [17:51] OK, so now how about you save yourself a lot of trouble and install wicd [17:51] mancha: I have wicd [17:52] mancha: LOL [17:52] mancha: or NetworkManager [17:52] right, or NM [17:52] did you start wicd? [17:52] mancha: when I try connecting with wicd, it says Bad Password [17:52] but it's not a bad password [17:52] then when I take off the password from my network [17:52] it says [17:52] Can't Get IP Address [17:52] does wicd show the APs? [17:52] Yeah I suspect your wireless adapter is being a little shit [17:52] but I went to a school the other day and it worked on an unsecure network [17:53] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:53] until you get that iwlist wlan0 scan to work [17:53] mancha: yes it shows the aps [17:53] you won't be able to connect [17:53] indubitableness: iwlist already works [17:53] I already said that [17:53] phil are you trying to connect to WEP or WPA? [17:54] mancha: WPA2-PSK [17:54] oh [17:54] my bad [17:54] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-88-56-145.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] ok. [17:54] what does wpa_supplicant do if you try with that? [17:55] mancha: I already posted that, let me find it [17:55] > CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys [17:55] trying to associate with ... [17:55] associated with ... [17:55] and then the disconnected event again [17:55] wpa_supplicant -c/path/to/config -iwlan0 -Dwext -dd [17:56] ok one sec let my type that [17:56] also, what card do you have exactly? [17:57] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.178) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:57] pci vendor id, please. [17:57] mancha: I don't know how to find out what model it is, I just know that it's broadcom [17:57] lspci -n | grep 14e3 [17:57] lspci -n | grep 14e4 [17:57] (sorry) [17:58] says [17:58] 14e4:4315 (rev 01) [17:58] and [17:58] 14e4:1693 (rev 02) [17:58] 4315 is the wireless [17:58] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.178) joined ##slackware. [17:59] aN_ (aNonymous@1862035573.rec.megazon.com.br) left irc: [17:59] ok [17:59] according to the b43 driver specs, your card is only partially supported in PIO mode on 2.6.33 or higher [17:59] what does this mean that I have to do [17:59] what kernel do you have? uname -r [18:00] 2.6.33.4-smp [18:00] well first, you need a kernel 2.6.33 or higher. next you need to modprobe your card as: modprobe b43 pio=1 [18:00] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] so I just type in modprobe b43 pio=1 [18:00] yes, but first remove it. rmmod b43 [18:01] ok done [18:01] now what [18:01] now try again (wicd and wpa_supplicant) [18:02] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.21) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [18:02] same error [18:02] with wicd [18:02] let me try the other [18:03] you did populate your wpa_supplicant.conf, right? :) [18:03] thrice`: yes [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:04] supplicant seems to work [18:05] now in another terminal type dhcpcd wlan0 [18:05] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425468.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:06] hangs at waiting for carrier [18:06] timed out [18:06] twice [18:06] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-97-163.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:06] it really sounds like your password is incorrect :p [18:06] why did you say it seemed to work? [18:06] you will know if it works if iwconfig wlan0 shows you associated [18:07] it's not associated [18:07] Action: aceofspades19 would laugh so hard if it was actually the wrong password [18:07] also supplicant seemed to work because it didn't error [18:07] i'd like wpa_supplicant output from the -dd line i gave you [18:08] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.24) joined ##slackware. [18:08] ok [18:08] sec [18:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:09] also, what does this give: cat /sys/module/b43/parameters/pio [18:10] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [18:10] no such file [18:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] alright never mind. [18:11] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.24) left irc: Client Quit [18:11] but you did modprobe with pio=1 right? [18:11] yes [18:12] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [18:12] hrmm, i wonder if you need to disable qos [18:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:13] to be on the safe side, modprobe b43 pio=1 qos=0 [18:13] ok [18:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:14] now what [18:14] now pastebin your wpa_supplicant.conf [18:14] you can XXX out your passphrase [18:15] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:16] ok [18:16] now provide me the url so i can also see it [18:16] huffpuff_ (~matthew@h86.28.188.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] was that really necessary :) [18:17] Mowah (1000@c-7d8de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:18] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:18] lol [18:19] working on it [18:19] http://pastebin.com/Lgr3HQtq [18:19] huffpuff (~matthew@h181.29.188.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:19] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [18:19] ok a few erors i see [18:19] ok [18:19] you want proto=WPA2 [18:20] also if the PSK is a long hex string you don't use quotes [18:20] it wouldn't accept it if it didn't have quotes [18:20] it said it could read the config file [18:20] let me try it again [18:20] will quotes hurt it? [18:20] also, WPA2 doesn't have TKIP, so take that out [18:21] quotes is only used for ascii passprasess [18:21] do you have somethign like 5a7ce3632a.... [18:21] yes [18:21] a long string of that [18:21] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:21] I used wpa_passphrase accesspointname password [18:21] to get that [18:21] then it is just psk=45a2c454... [18:21] ok [18:22] do I wpa_sup again [18:22] do you guys like the phrase 'cloud computing' [18:22] yes, save the corrected config. and wpa_supplicant again (my version) [18:22] failed to parse psk [18:22] make sure all running wpa_suppplicants and dhcpcd's are killed first [18:22] how [18:22] ps? [18:23] under ps just bash and ps are running [18:23] killall wpa_supplicant [18:23] ok done [18:23] ok look, what does your psk= line look like? [18:23] again, failed to parse psk [18:23] psk=209juij437urhq9384p98ahwf9p8h7wp9f87ha9w4f87 [18:23] kinda like that [18:23] but hex code [18:24] no letters above e [18:24] above "f" [18:24] nope, there's e's in it [18:24] so something is wrong, did you mess up the cut and paste? [18:25] you should have 65 characters in your psk [18:26] is there a char count in linux [18:26] ok look, you're somehow messing this up. why don't you just replace it with psk="the password in ascii" [18:26] i.e. whatever phrase you fed into wpa_passphrase to being with [18:26] wpa_passphrase definitely puts e's in the psk key [18:26] ok I'll do that [18:26] phil___, why don't you just use psk="yourpassword" ? [18:27] this time do use quotes. [18:27] I didn't know I could do that [18:28] ok now supplicant is running [18:28] and iwconfig wlan0 shows you associated? [18:28] ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Network is down [18:28] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-88-56-145.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:28] lots of [18:28] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [18:28] hexdump asciis and stuff [18:28] phil___, this is mine (ish): http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/bTDPQ585.html [18:28] nope, wpa_whatever failed [18:29] i want the output [18:29] failed to initiate AP scan [18:29] should I direct the output to the file [18:29] what was the command for that again [18:29] hrmm, ok hold up. [18:29] >> or > or something [18:29] dive: why is scan_ssid=0 commented out [18:30] mine isn't I don't think [18:30] because I don't need it [18:30] should I comment it out on mine? [18:30] try ap_scan=2 not 1 [18:30] no, leave yours as is [18:31] where was ap_scan [18:31] at the top of your config [18:31] ok done, should I run sup again [18:32] wait, did you start up the interface after the last modprobe? i.e. ifconfig wlan0 up [18:32] mancha: no [18:32] I just did what you told me [18:32] start up the interface and run wpa_supplicant [18:32] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [18:33] wpa_supplicant ended with cancelling scan request, cancelling authentication timeout [18:33] should I run it and put the output into a file [18:33] and send it to you [18:34] run it with -f/path/to/file.txt [18:34] wpa_supplicant blah -dd -f output.txt [18:35] it printed the help for it [18:35] it didn't run [18:35] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:35] isn't there a special thing like > or something to put input into a file [18:35] you just added the "-f file.txt" to the end of the working command? [18:35] output* [18:35] mancha: yes [18:36] yeah, you can do > file.txt 2>&1 [18:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:36] i need to leave in about 5 minutes so you better speed this up [18:38] trying [18:38] http://pastebin.com/mgm646g7 [18:39] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:40] did you change proto to WPA2 [18:40] ? [18:40] yes [18:40] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:40] proto=WPA2 [18:42] Hoogin (hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [18:42] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:42] it authenticated [18:42] so did it work? [18:43] WHOA [18:43] IT WORKED [18:43] THANK YOU MANCHA [18:43] I OWE YOU [18:43] WOWOWOWOW [18:43] yes,did you ^C the wpa_supplicant line or something? [18:43] wow, it only took 32hrs [18:43] lol it did [18:43] ... [18:43] mancha: I don't know if I did [18:43] it worked because of the editing you told me to do in the conf file [18:44] thank you so much [18:44] anyways, you can run wpa_supplicant without -dd and using -B (so it daemonises). then wait for association and run dhcpcd wlan0 [18:44] I have a question though, will I only be able to connect to this wireless network? or will it work on others [18:44] you need a configuration block for each AP you want to connect to [18:44] and you're welcome./ i need to go now. [18:44] phil___, in wicd try putting password in "" [18:45] zongo_ (~zongo@86-45-154-103-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] I don't recall if that's what I did but may help [18:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:45] dive: I'm not going to start wicd because it may mess something up, but next time I will try [18:46] phil enjoy your pr0n now! [18:46] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [18:46] ki2azy (~krazy@99.59.253.186) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Hi Guys, Just installed slackware 13. Barely managed to get connected to internet via cable. Was wondering if anyone kind enough would help me with wireless ? [18:47] LOL [18:47] yeah I was just gonna say 'Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh' [18:47] the person who spent 902309 hours with me just left [18:48] I will stay and try to help you though and see if I can remember what he told me to do [18:48] zongo_, using wicd or network scripts? [18:48] zongo_: have you tried ocnnecting with wicd [18:48] Provided all my details in the rc.wireless.conf file as per manual but when I run /sbin/dhcpcd it give a 169 IP address on my wireless [18:48] zongo_, rc.wireless.conf is outdated now [18:49] just use rc.inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant.conf [18:49] use /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [18:49] yeah [18:49] I got slackware of DVD and I found an old manual I suppose [18:49] :) [18:50] use the book on the slack website [18:50] the rc.inet1.conf is configured as well [18:50] I have done it with my network details [18:50] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:50] ki2azy (~krazy@99.59.253.186) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:50] I have compile my drivers for my wireless as well [18:51] zongo_: this might help http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [18:51] Have to say its hard to get slackware up and running but its a lot of fun [18:52] the learning curve is steep [18:52] zongo_, you probably just need to setup wpa_supplicant.conf [18:53] zongo_: yes it is very [18:53] I just spent a lot of hours trying to get wireless working [18:53] if i set up wpa_supplicant.conf, would my wireless network pop up at boot ? [18:54] may I ask a dum question ? [18:54] if it and rc.inet1.conf are setup then yes [18:54] slackware is not a system that you update like others ? [18:54] it's not a rolling release like most [18:54] am i right in thinking, that a good way to learn how to program is to code a program what does the same job in different languages, like bash, python, C etc [18:55] where you would have an update manager and the whatnote ? [18:55] zongo_, well there is slackpkg [18:55] zongo_: there is a package manager but not an update manager or anything [18:55] dustybin, a good way to learn how to program is hack like an animal on something you find interesting [18:55] phil___, slackpkg _is_ an update manager [18:55] slackpkg is your update manager [18:55] dive: I meant it won't update the operating system or anything [18:55] is that incorrect [18:55] it will [18:56] oh cool [18:56] how does one run it [18:56] I will refrain from helping people until I know how to do stuff myself [18:56] one reads the manpage [18:56] man slackpkg [18:56] ok, thanks guys for replying to me. Will go and do my homework and if I have more questions will pop up here. Thanks again [18:56] ok [18:56] dustybin, doing the same thing in different languages is probably not a bad idea either. I usually find attention span to be the limiting factor when learning something new, though. [18:57] but like I said slackware packages are usually only updated for security or on occasion for bug fixes [18:57] hiptobecubic, man [18:57] I was waiting for you.. [18:57] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:57] zongo_ (~zongo@86-45-154-103-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:57] dive, i was flying [18:57] I'm in Rotterdam now \o/ [18:57] hiptobecubic, I have a patch for farsight2 [18:58] dive, oh? Go on [18:58] have submitted 0.0.0.21 + the patch [18:58] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [18:58] hiptobecubic: is it quite common for a hacker to spend all night trying to fix something, then realise its 6am [18:58] so it's in pending - but I'll upload the patch for you - one sec [18:58] dive, did you see what i was talking about? Or was my setup just @#$%ed? [18:59] dustybin, happens all the time. But usually because I don't know what I'm doing and spend hours fixing something trivial [18:59] hiptobecubic, http://www.dawoodfall.net/sources/Makefile.patch [18:59] hiptobecubic, yeah it's an error in the makefile [18:59] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) joined ##slackware. [19:00] gcc expects tabs instead of spaces or some such nonsense [19:00] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:00] dive, fair enough [19:00] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [19:00] or automake does [19:00] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) joined ##slackware. [19:02] grazymax (~grazymax@host169-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:03] dive, so you had to have the slackbuild run automake again, yes? [19:03] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:03] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:03] hiptobecubic, no need [19:04] no? [19:04] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-103-120-86.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [19:04] do you want the slackbuild too? [19:04] dive, sure [19:04] hang a sec [19:04] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [19:05] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [19:05] http://www.dawoodfall.net/sources/farsight2.SlackBuild [19:05] it just applies the patch after configure [19:05] and before make [19:06] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) joined ##slackware. [19:06] MadneX (~Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) left irc: Client Quit [19:07] MadneX (~Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [19:08] dive, ah i see [19:08] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) joined ##slackware. [19:09] I haven't tested on -current though since my current box died on me :/ [19:09] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [19:10] Trying now, although I'm on 64-current and i've been having multilib issues with some builds lately. Not sure why [19:10] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:10] dive, just died with make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/SBo/farsight2-0.0.21/python' Makefile:684: *** missing separator. Stop. [19:11] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:11] thats the error without the patch [19:11] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:11] sure it applied? [19:12] by the way you need to download it - don't copy/paste [19:12] tabs probably messed up with copy/paste [19:12] Yes, it says hunks succeeded [19:13] guys when i run gtk2 apps from a bash script,they dont use QtCurve-Gtk2.why? [19:14] hmm I'll have to have another look at it [19:14] dive, it ran fine on yours i assume? [19:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:16] on 13.1 yeah but like I said my -current box is dead [19:16] ah [19:18] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [19:19] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:19] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] hiptobecubic, which version make do you have? [19:20] 3.82 [19:21] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] looks like I need to upgrade make to test it [19:22] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [19:23] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.69) left irc: Quit: http://v4nelle.dyndns.org [19:26] right fails here too and I suspect the patch needs some extra lines added [19:28] user65989 (~user62997@adsl-76-250-139-140.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] user65989 (~user62997@adsl-76-250-139-140.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] mm, systemd init system requires pam :/ [19:32] psykhe- (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) joined ##slackware. [19:33] psykhe (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:34] dive, i think i've got it [19:35] dive, ./python/Makefile.am is poorly done. pkg-config give proper exit codes so the [ -z ] test is silly. try this... [19:36] Line 1: PYDEFS=`pkg-config --variable=defsdir pygobject-2.0 || pkg-config --variable=defsdir pygtk-2.0` [19:36] delete the call to [ on line 2. run configure again [19:36] ok [19:36] sec [19:37] dive, http://vpaste.net/fFgQp [19:37] If i didn't explain well. [19:37] yeah that's what I understood [19:38] except I put it on one line [19:38] sure [19:39] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:39] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:39] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [19:40] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] hey guys, I'm trying to install chrome and it says I need a package called ORBit-2.0 [19:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:41] so I installed it [19:41] but it still says it's missing [19:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:42] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Gizzmo (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:42] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:45] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:45] how did you install it phil___ ? [19:45] with slack packages [19:45] from where ? [19:45] slackbuilds [19:45] sorry [19:45] from here [19:46] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/ORBit2/ [19:46] I also installed GConf [19:46] you're trying to compile chrome, or use the slackbuild ? [19:46] slackbuild [19:47] in the DEPENDENT line, it says ORBit2.0 >= 2.4.0 [19:47] but the v on slackbuild is 2.14.18 [19:47] is that what's causing it [19:47] hiptobecubic, same error [19:47] after running automake and configure? [19:47] phil___, well, the chrome slackbuild shouldn't be compiling anything :( [19:48] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:48] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:48] I didn't run automake [19:48] thrice`: so what do I do [19:48] thrice`: I just follow the slackbuild instructions [19:48] dive, try it [19:48] phil___, where are you getting that error, trying to run chrome after installing it ? [19:48] that would annoying [19:48] did you touch configure items? don't forget autoreconf :> [19:48] thrice`: ok sorry, forgot to mention [19:49] thrice`: I run chrome and in the terminal it says [19:49] error while loading shared libraries libgconf-2.so.4 [19:49] etc [19:49] so I'm trying to install GConf [19:49] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:49] but to do that I need ORBit [19:49] I installed ORBit but GConf still says it's missing [19:49] ah, ok; so gconf is actually giving you the "missing orbit" errors :) [19:50] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [19:50] phil___, ok, now we're getting somewhere. slackbuilds only build slackware packages - did you install orbit after building it? [19:50] hiptobecubic, same [19:51] hmm though that patch would need applying before automake so one sec [19:51] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] thrice`: ha, that was the problem, I forgot that it doesn't install stuff it only prepares stuff to be installed, thanks [19:52] stupid mistake [19:52] and then there's the lib/Makefile too... [19:52] phil___, no problem :> there is a tool called "sbopkg" too that lets you do it all nicely. just a front-end to slackbuilds.org, that handles the downloading, extracting, building, installing [19:54] thrice`: wow that would be handy [19:54] is it preinstalled in slax [19:54] is slax the correct nickname for slackware? [19:54] nope, slax is a live-cd project based on slackware, but totally separate [19:54] oh ok [19:55] phil___, it's not by default, no; slackbuilds.org is unofficial to slackware (though, some slackware devs work on stuff there); further, sbopkg is un-official to slackbuilds.org ;) [19:55] oh ok [19:55] but, it's just a shiny wrapper, so it's quite harmless, and pretty useful [19:55] dive, got it to build [19:55] I found sbopkg.org [19:55] phil___, yes, that's it. [19:55] sbopkg.org [19:55] thanks this is so cool, I love slack so far [19:56] dive, http://vpaste.net/V8g7U http://vpaste.net/pDvd0 [19:56] phil___, if you've already built a slackware package, you're further ahead than 60% of people I'd say ;) [19:56] dive, the slackbuild has a line added above ./configure to fix my multilib issue. Shouldn't hurt on pure systems either [19:56] see, even old farts like hiptobecubic are struggling to build packages [19:57] thrice`, old farts! [19:57] lol [19:57] :o [19:57] thrice`, who gave you the authority to make those kinds of claims! [19:57] I would have given up though if it weren't for the help in this channel [19:57] over the wifi thing [19:57] This is internet. You can't just go around saying whatever [19:57] afk [19:58] hm, true; everything online must be truth [19:58] dive, success? [19:59] building.. [20:02] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:02] ok done [20:05] just rename patch and test again [20:06] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:06] phil___ (~chatzilla@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [20:07] just need to get previous rm'd from pending [20:08] ieaeaa (~ieaeaa@89-168-140-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:09] phil___ (~phil@66.69.109.178) joined ##slackware. [20:09] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:11] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:11] Action: dive wonders what else is going to break with make in current [20:11] josemanuel (~josemanue@88.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[20:54] Nick change: psykhe- -> PsYkHe [20:56] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:57] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:58] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [20:58] You could set SUID [20:58] although I prefer not to for scripts [20:58] I prefer not to unless it's absolutely required [21:00] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [21:00] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-97-163.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [21:03] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] greetings and salutations [21:04] salutations and greetings once more [21:04] bahh [21:06] greetings to you! [21:06] and furthermore [21:06] salutations [21:06] LoreKnore (~LoreKnore@201.86.165.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Anyone run a Brother printer? [21:07] grass_mud_horse (1000@123.185.152.213) joined ##slackware. [21:07] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:07] grass_mud_horse (1000@123.185.152.213) left irc: Client Quit [21:07] indubitableness: not on slack, i haven't [21:08] indubitableness: on fedora, i have [21:08] cups should support it. [21:09] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:09] It sort of does [21:10] the model I have doesn't have drivers in cups [21:10] but the company provides cups and lpd drivers [21:10] I just can't get them working [21:10] their documentation might as well be a blank page for how useful it is [21:10] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [21:11] it's a MFC-J615W [21:11] but don't bother looking it up [21:11] it'll just take you to their shitty documentation [21:11] apparently no one in the world has ever posted anything on the internet about this model [21:13] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-58.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Going! [21:15] indubitableness: use a similar model driver instead? [21:16] newslacker (~root@69-179-126-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] All the similar models provide drivers the same way [21:17] by which I mean [21:17] there isn't one available in cups [21:17] that's similar enough [21:17] have to install manually [21:18] and when I tried that it just said "print job done" [21:18] without printing anything [21:19] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:19] MadneX (~Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:21] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:26] indubitableness: increase the log level [21:26] in syslog? [21:26] or in cups configuration? [21:27] in cups, for starters. [21:28] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:28] k [21:28] found it [21:29] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] but I'm not gonna dick around with it anymore tonight [21:29] It's about bed time [21:29] thanks though [21:29] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [21:31] I said that and I immediately started dicking around with it [21:33] meatpuppet (~meatpuppe@infectedtech.org) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:33] meatpuppet (~meatpuppe@infectedtech.org) joined ##slackware. [21:33] meatpuppet (~meatpuppe@infectedtech.org) left irc: Client Quit [21:33] meatpuppet (~meatpuppe@infectedtech.org) joined ##slackware. [21:34] Fish_Kungfu (~Fish_Kung@adsl-068-159-116-104.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:09] lf4: cool...workin' alright? [23:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:10] MLanden: Yeah forgot to set it in iptables so that threw me a second. [23:10] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:11] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:12] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:13] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [23:14] lf4: hear ya [23:15] 3.6.9 :) [23:17] pfft.... 4 beta 5 ;) [23:19] how y'all feel about google's ball doodle for the day? [23:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] they can do what they want on their birthday [23:21] i read one user comment from a self-proclaimed "works in IT" that went nuts saying he'd never seen a more amazing thing on the web [23:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-80-119.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Didit^_^ (~osc@202.70.59.30) joined ##slackware. [23:22] it is rather entertaining, but I don't think I would go as far as amazing :) [23:23] this person was saying it was more amazing than sliced bread [23:23] mancha: lol.....Wonder bread? [23:23] heh [23:25] that google shit is the dumbest thing i've ever seen, as far as new stuff [23:26] yes jeev. your expert opinion is what really counts [23:26] can i subscribe to your newsletter? [23:27] lol [23:27] ananke: is that why i have him blocked? [23:27] ananke: i can't remember [23:27] nyRednek: very likely [23:28] ananke: so how you been? decided who you're hiring? 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[23:54] Tamerlane (~Tamerlane@75-119-255-126.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:58] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:58] it's funny, the ignore function works but yet he still sees what i say. works real well. i hope nyrednek has compassion for me the next time his people are behind another attack like they did on 9/11. zionism+++ [23:59] i hope he has the compassion not to pin it on me! [23:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:00] --- Wed Sep 8 2010