[00:00] Sorry, meant to say bridged to the wired NIC [00:00] but the thing that wonders me is that something segfaults like init then every program also does [00:00] I unplugged the card and nothing of that has happened until now [00:01] also never got anything to do the same while booting a livecd [00:02] adrenaline: You can also just hide the xorg.conf file and restart X and your system will do it's best to create a new xorg.conf file for you. i.e. mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and then restart X [00:02] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:02] "A Perfect Circle - The Hollow" (192kbps - 44kHz - Stereo) [00:03] oops [00:03] sorry [00:03] lol [00:04] tank-man: you can try passing VSFX=1 to the pvr card module to see if can avoid lockups [00:05] i dont have lockups anymore, i bought a new motherboard [00:05] usr13, Thanks that is great advice [00:05] actually xorgsetup worked awesome [00:05] slackware is bitchen [00:06] adrenaline: Yep sure is... [00:06] It hauls on my 2.0gig 512 ram old POS Dell [00:06] I use X -configure because I'm lazy and don't care about the prompts [00:06] should mkinitrd be available to install from slackpkg in 12.2? [00:06] X -configure didn't work for me [00:06] works great for me [00:06] briareus: come again? [00:06] the system says it cant find it during my first slackpkg upgrade-all [00:06] briareus: mkinitrd is already included in slackware [00:06] X didn't work after I ran it, but I have integrated intel video [00:06] adrenaline: ah [00:07] Dominian: Yea, X -configure works pretty well, has done great for me every time. [00:07] Dominian: http://www.multiseatcomputer.be/index.php/en/Latest/Multiseat-Extreme.html [00:07] It is a reall POS Dell but I am only using it to dev [00:07] I was thinking to giving a try to it under FreeBSD [00:07] so it is way more than I need for now [00:07] Dominian: one or more errors ocurred while slackpkg was running: mkninitrd-1.3.3.-486-1_slack12.2.tgz: Not Found [00:07] alisonken1home: you installing that somewhere? [00:07] briareus: what slackware version are you on? [00:07] Dominian: just completed a fresh install of 12.2 [00:08] you sure you're on 12.2? is your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file configured for the right version of slackware? [00:08] wishful thinking - that setup is for sale in GB - not the US, but it uses Debian or Ubuntu on the server [00:08] then immediately did a slackpkg update [00:08] briareus: slackpkg upgrade-all maybe? [00:08] Dominian: just thought you'd like that :) [00:08] alisonken1home: ick [00:08] alisonken1home: that's nice, except the OSs it runs [00:08] Dominian: it was during the upgrade-all [00:08] Dominian: at the very end of it [00:08] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:09] alisonken1home: that would be nice [00:09] that I got that error message [00:09] briareus: sounsd to me like the mirror your using is out of sync [00:09] Dominian: yep - it needs a slackware upgrade to a real o/s [00:09] alisonken1home: hehe [00:09] anyway - time to hit the rack [00:09] alisonken1home: I'd settle for openSUSE on it [00:09] alisonken1home: night man [00:10] Dominian: picked a new mirror and I'm updating again [00:10] Action: Dominian nods [00:11] yeah it just pulled mkinitrd from the other mirror [00:11] thanks [00:11] Action: Dominian nods [00:11] no problem man [00:12] hrm.. [00:12] wonder if you can get slackware.xxx [00:12] exmachina (n=exmachin@74.12.146.11) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:15] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] ukabin (n=ukabin@190.200.222.161) left irc: "see you next deculture" [00:17] Action: TwinReverb isn't turned on by slackware pr0n :P [00:17] supergear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:19] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [00:20] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Success [00:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:21] xdan779 (n=daniel@s233-75-207.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [00:23] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-6-49-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:33] back later [00:33] no I have it seen to happen randomly with some programs, init, sed, rc.S, kdm, X [00:34] glibc-solibs [00:34] I just went through the same issue with rsync [00:34] with a little stracing and research.. turns out glibc-solibs needed to be reinstalled [00:34] I unplugged my "bttv" pci card and it seems to have dissapeared until now [00:34] I did an md5sum of the libs contained in glibc-solibs [00:34] compared them to the package off of a mirror [00:35] they were different.. reinstalled package.. error went away [00:35] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] Dominian: read my last paragraph [00:35] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] and I have not touched glibc or anything else [00:37] or the card can be doing something bad to the mobo [00:39] hey all [00:39] glibc [00:39] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@189.174.147.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:40] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:40] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:41] KidpunkX: .... and? [00:41] dissociative: hrm could be [00:41] dissociative: jus ttelling you how I fixed that same type of error [00:42] byteframe_ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-8.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] byteframe_ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-181.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] i was jsut reading about it [00:44] probably If I make the card plate not to touch the tower chasis... [00:44] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:50] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:54] Toshiba® (L305-S5908) 15.4" Satellite Intel® Core? 2 Duo T5800 2.0GHz 320GB Notebook $779 * Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 Processor * 2.0GHz * 2MB L2 Cache * 800MHz FSB * 4GB PC6400 DDR2 SDRAM [00:54] * 320GB, 5400RPM Serial ATA * 15.4 " widescreen TrueBrite® TFT LCD display at 1280x800 native resolution (WXGA) * Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD [00:55] I see request in my web server logs like GET /nonexistenshit [00:55] what the hell should that mean [00:55] dissociative, people trying to get stuff that don't exist? [00:55] could be worms [00:55] could be someone's web page is not properly configured [00:55] dissociative: ignore it [00:55] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] dissociative: its a freakin' bot [00:56] dissociative: slackadelic.com/noobfarm.org/slackwaregallery.org all get hit by it [00:56] just make sure they're not trying to bounce from you to something else [00:56] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:56] Dominian: the useragent is firefox 3.0.5 or iceweacel 3.0.4 but sure it can be fake [00:56] you know [00:56] I've never seen star wars [00:56] Dominian, isn't there some apache plugin that blocks IP addresses after 3 or more GET requests for nonexistentshit? [00:56] should I? [00:56] Gargantua, yes :P [00:56] jdetring_ (n=jay@70.234.182.28) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:56] which one should I start with? [00:57] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] I remember watching the first one when I was like 8 [00:57] dissociative, everything online can be faked [00:57] TwinReverb: probably [00:57] TwinReverb, except the size of my pens. [00:57] TwinReverb: I used to use the -match paramter in IPtables. [00:57] penis* [00:57] Which happens to be 12 inches long, btw. [00:57] Gargantua, ego fail [00:57] TwinReverb: then I just gave up and didn't care.. they don't find anything.. and as long as the server states 404.. f'em [00:57] these are seems irc bots here in freenode [00:57] Dominian, there's a -match for get/nonexistentshit? [00:57] dissociative: trust me.. they aren't [00:57] erm.. [00:57] My penis is so big, if I put it on a keyboard it goes all the way from a to z! [00:58] don't tell me the module is called ip_getnonexistentshit? :) [00:58] TwinReverb: there used to be.. don't remember the syntax [00:58] was that an example of a /nonexistantshit parameter ? [00:58] /dev/null = nonexistantshit [00:58] hmm i wonder why those browsers are trying to GET /dev/null [00:59] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.174.147.4) joined ##slackware. [00:59] i would think IE would be the browser that wouldn't get /dev/null [00:59] _ohm (n=nava@nom19473a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [00:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:59] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [00:59] i don't GET it [00:59] TwinReverb: bot network [00:59] botnet [00:59] yeah i know, [00:59] I don't POSt it either [01:00] hmm spam, kimchi ramen, and aloe juice [01:01] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.182.28) joined ##slackware. [01:01] after that log entry I see: GET /mail/bin/msgimport GET /bin/msgimport GET /rc/bin/msgimport GET /webmail/bin/msgimport [01:01] what is it trying to do really? [01:01] too bad they don't GET /a/clue [01:01] looks like it's trying to spam the messenger service (windows) and/or whatever the one for *nix is [01:02] but i have absolutely no clue [01:02] I need to report it to freenode staff or whatever is at charge [01:03] where is it coming from? freenode? [01:03] renew (n=renew@c-67-169-112-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] irc bots [01:03] or clients [01:03] whatever [01:04] well that traffic would come from anywhere [01:04] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "BitchX: ..(cyp): gone" [01:04] no, It doesn't. I casually get up my web server [01:04] generally to paste stuff [01:04] dissociative: if its freenode.. they are probably probing for open proxy [01:04] and so [01:04] lol [01:05] yeah freenode likes to probe for open things [01:05] until it netsplits [01:05] but then a few seconds later it starts probing again [01:05] like /nonexistentshit perhaps? [01:05] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [01:07] TwinReverb: http://fail2ban.org [01:07] http://www.marriedtothesea.com/122908/how-rabbits-deal-with-confusion.gif [01:07] it sounds like a romanian bot, but I can't remember the name. toasta something [01:07] Action: TwinReverb puts a condom on firefox and loads the URL [01:08] foldingstock (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] haha [01:08] Action: mrselfpwn uses packet injection and sticks it in the back door. [01:09] too late, i already sewed it shut [01:09] Action: mrselfpwn packets fall to the floor. [01:09] What a waste. [01:10] Action: TwinReverb stabs mrselfpwn with a fender stratocaster [01:11] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [01:11] ... controller ... for rock band (not going to waste a beautiful instrument on a silly 'tard) [01:12] and i won't waste my packets [01:13] you already did :P [01:13] granted they're being ignored anyways. -j DROP [01:13] surely if i logged all packets here my logs would fill very quickly [01:14] TwinReverb: Will you log my packet? [01:14] TwinReverb: I used to log all traffic on my router [01:14] no [01:14] then I'd look at the logs, and have fun finding out the offending IPs [01:14] I got insane shortly after, and stopped [01:14] might as well script that part of it [01:14] you will find none of mine, i go under the ruse of akaim.net so if you see that it was me poking in on you [01:14] yeah in the OCD sense of insane [01:15] there's a reason for scripting: to save yourself time [01:16] I don't log traffic any more. [01:16] i don't either. been there, done that. [01:17] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] is there any way to have the system notice a modprobe blacklist other then a reboot? [01:18] guitarman4: re-run the rc script? [01:18] on livecds are all vesamenu.c32 the same? [01:19] guitarman4, huh? [01:20] i would try first logging out all users and going to init level 1 ("telinit 1" as root) [01:20] thumbs, TwinReverb - I have a webcam that a driver needs blacklisting so the proper webcam driver will load. [01:20] just wondered if i could have it detect the proper one with a minimal interuption... [01:20] then: for i in `lsmod | awk '{print $1}'`; do rmmod $i; done [01:20] that removes all modules that it can [01:20] then telinit 3 [01:21] rmmod hearbeat [01:21] iirc i think that's about the same thing [01:21] guitarman4: a telinit 1 rmod then telinit 3 will 'simulate' a reboot [01:21] cool ;) [01:21] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:21] hrm.. speaking of "reboots" [01:21] I need to look at using kexec [01:21] thx. [01:21] brb [01:22] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:22] Dominian: That URS does not work for me. [01:23] that what? [01:23] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:23] Dominian: Sorry, was scrolled back a ways. [01:23] hah [01:23] But slackadelic.com/noobfarm.org/slackwaregallery.org [01:23] Toshiba® (L305-S5908) 15.4" Satellite Intel® Core? 2 Duo T5800 2.0GHz 320GB Notebook $779 * Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 Processor * 2.0GHz * 2MB L2 Cache * 800MHz FSB * 4GB PC6400 DDR2 SDRAM [01:23] yeah that won't work [01:24] * 320GB, 5400RPM Serial ATA * 15.4 " widescreen TrueBrite® TFT LCD display at 1280x800 native resolution (WXGA) * Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD [01:24] good deal? [01:24] maybe I should've written like: {slackadelic.com,noobfarm.org,slackwaregallery.org} [01:24] those are all seperate domains [01:24] I raided the ice box and forgot I'd scrolled back. [01:25] haha [01:26] Ok, yea.. Please excuse my ignorance :) [01:26] /ignore [01:26] ;) [01:27] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:27] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:33] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [01:35] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [01:36] cipher (n=cipher@62.240.47.215) joined ##slackware. [01:37] howdy [01:38] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) joined ##slackware. [01:38] Dominian: meany [01:38] heh [01:38] i have a Q about the future of slackware distro [01:39] what if patrick died or something like this, what is gonna be? [01:39] cipher: there are fallbacks plans in place [01:40] cipher: don't worry [01:40] which is ;) [01:40] cipher: you don't need to know. [01:40] mmm, ok [01:41] ok, i just was wondering [01:41] cipher: just know that there is nothing to worry about. [01:41] cipher: there are lots of people running the organization [01:41] ok, thumbs [01:41] aha, but what about the devolopers? [01:42] and lots of them are qualified to lead the whole thing [01:42] you mean it's like linus's kernel [01:42] well if pat died then how would that change them? [01:42] you are write [01:42] yes, it's a team of people voluntarily following a "benevolent dictator for life" [01:42] right* [01:42] :) [01:43] good to hear that ^^ [01:43] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:43] what about the financial support [01:43] slackware is doing fine [01:43] ^^ [01:43] most of us would be willing to help out if a financial crisis would arise. [01:43] Viva slackware [01:43] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-68-50-102-109.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:44] but it's not required. [01:44] no me :P [01:44] not* [01:44] just kidding [01:44] good to hear actually [01:44] i'm just asking those Qs, cuz i'm about to finished from downloading 12.2 [01:45] slackware has been around since the first good public release. [01:45] 12.2 you guys recommend me with it ? [01:45] many many many many years ago [01:45] 12.2 is rock solid, [01:45] i know, 93 i guess [01:45] well if you step back and look at the trends, slackware is doing fine and it's a safe choice [01:46] hope that, but i don't like to follow the latest packages [01:46] you know what i mean [01:46] it *is* the oldest distro in existence [01:46] yep, i agree with that [01:46] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:46] no dout abour [01:46] t* [01:46] doubt about it* [01:47] Commodore had a lot of people working for them and look where their at [01:47] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [01:47] i was traveling between debian, and redhat's clones and kids [01:47] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:47] Mad_Dud (i=1000@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:47] lol, eelriver [01:47] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [01:47] cipher: nowadays, slackware has many semi-automated update tools [01:48] but point is how they are thinking to work [01:48] giuppy (n=giuppy@host139-170-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:48] slackpkg is one [01:48] you can also rsync the package tree [01:48] you mean it's like yum and apt-get? [01:48] not quite. [01:48] it's semi-automated. [01:48] aha [01:49] you need to tell it what to do, and even there, you need to install the packages yourself at the end [01:49] it's safer that way [01:49] i see [01:49] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-122-146-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:49] i like to do things manually [01:49] then you'll like slackware [01:49] cipher: you can automatically download-and-install, but you're expected to handle dependencies yourself [01:50] btw thumbs, but why i'm not hearing about slackware in servers marketing, and big companys? [01:50] qartis, i like that [01:50] because the slackware admins have no time to brag about it [01:50] and we like to keep it a 'secret' [01:51] lol [01:51] are you sure about that thumbs :P [01:51] whereas most admins that are asked to 'recommend' distros tend not to do so much actual administration, and more talk [01:51] I was kidding about the secret part [01:51] :) [01:51] those admins go with what is well known, and what they learn from their boor for 'dummies' [01:52] in short, they have no idea what they're talking about [01:52] thumbs, check thisout [01:52] and btw, you are tottaly right [01:52] totally* [01:53] http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/pgsql-ncpu.png [01:53] http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/os-mysql.png [01:53] are you agree with that? [01:53] yes, postgre usually scales well. [01:54] and what about freebsd ;) [01:54] I lack experience to comment [01:54] ok, that's better than lieing :P [01:55] I don't pretend to know everything, no. [01:55] good [01:55] a similar mysql server would not yield similar results with 6 cores. [01:55] so which one you are using thumbs 11? [01:56] in fact, it would probably 'plateau' at 4 cores. [01:56] s/6/8/ [01:56] 11? [01:56] slackwaree [01:56] -e [01:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:56] I use many versions. 11.0 happens to run on my router here. [01:57] aha, i see [01:57] I usually just patch sshd, and leave it alone. [01:57] btw thumbs, i'm thinking to dual my boot with freebsd 7.1 [01:57] good idea. [01:58] more exposure is always good. [01:58] cuz i need to learn about it [01:58] is that good? [01:58] I agree. Learn away. [01:58] slackware + freebsd [01:58] thanks for the adivice [01:58] advice* [01:58] it's a valuable asset for most jobs, yes. [01:58] no big diff is;t it? [01:58] solaris is also goos. [01:59] gah, good, rather. opensolaris is a breeze to setup. [01:59] opensolaris 052008 is sucks [01:59] I cannot vompare slackware to freeBSD in s asingle sentence, sorry. [01:59] it's been installed in my mahcine, and never played with it [01:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:59] I'm starting to make a lot of typos, I must be really tired. [02:00] yahoo is using freebsd in thier servers [02:00] best you get an old sparc box, and install the real deal. [02:00] lol [02:00] yep, damn right [02:00] it might land you a job, you never known [02:01] ok, too many typos. Heading to bed. [02:01] and it my land me to be psycho :) [02:01] k, thanks thumbs [02:01] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] nice to talk, and see ya [02:01] nice to talk too qartis [02:03] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [02:04] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] btw, in 12.2 is it use lilo or grub? [02:07] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] i never seem to get bash redirection correct. [02:08] i have an app that outputs to what i thought was stdout, but when i try to redirect it to a file with &2>1 it still outputs to the terminal. [02:08] cipher, lilo [02:10] hiptobecubic: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html [02:10] hiptobecubic: do you know the difference between stdout and stderr? [02:10] yes [02:11] rumpf (n=a@e179144182.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [02:11] 2>&1 will redirect stderr to stdout [02:11] "> file" or "1> file" will redirect stdout to file [02:11] oh my syntax was just miserable. i see [02:13] Mad_Dud (i=1000@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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I thought i could use tail at first, but that doesn't work [02:31] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:31] hiptobecubic: could you tell me exactly what you want to do ? [02:32] mlangdn (n=michael@host-209-214-174-45.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:32] hiptobecubic: limit the size of the file based on what? [02:32] I did a upgrade from 12.1 to 12.2, now I don't have usb, or dvd drive support, any solutions? [02:32] override: what does uname -r say ? [02:32] renew (n=renew@c-67-169-112-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:32] 2.6.27.7-smp [02:32] hiptobecubic: it sounds like you want to pipe the output through "head" with a byte limit, and then put it into a file [02:33] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] that way "head" watches all the data that's passing through until it hits a certain byte limit, and sends eof [02:34] qartis, but that will only guard the first X bytes right? i'm trying to save the most recent X bytes [02:34] hiptobecubic: then it sounds like you want to use a log rotating tool [02:35] ok, so, new to shell code, i want an IF to do something if a file does NOT exist, how can i do that, how do i add NOT to my condition [02:35] hiptobecubic, > file1, then when thats done tail -n file1 > file2 [02:36] colmcille, if [[ ! -f c0nflict: ! [02:36] colmcille, if [[ ! -f ]] [02:36] been sticking that ! in several places :) let me show you the line i have [02:36] mount doesn't pick up anything [02:37] oops tab complete [02:37] colmcille, if [[ ! -f ]] [02:37] fsck [02:37] dive, thought about that too but it doesn't really solve the problem of the log file getting huge [02:37] hmm...actually, lemme try [02:38] hiptobecubic, well the first log would be huge yes [02:38] as it would contain all the output [02:38] baradude (n=baradude@58.137.93.218) joined ##slackware. [02:39] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [02:39] i think i'll try to use logrotate [02:39] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.178.57) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:39] hiptobecubic, so you want the last N number of lines only? [02:39] yes [02:39] ok [02:39] without dealing with a file that is monstrous [02:40] byteframe__ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-11-12.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] byteframe_ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-2-181.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:43] hiptobecubic, have you tried piping it | tail -n > file.log ? [02:43] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-129-230.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] dive, yeah but that generates no output. i think tail doesn't do anything until it seen an EOF or something.. so that it knows it was at the end, you know? [02:43] so with continuous output it's just waiting the whole time [02:43] right [02:44] if that kind of thing were possible, log rotating tools wouldn't exist [02:44] treating a file as a ring buffer [02:45] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:46] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:47] i'm not sure logrotate would help in this situation but i may be wrong [02:48] since it's the output of one command, when logs usually have output from many commands spread out over time [02:48] it's not possible to write a line of text to a file, and then shift the contents of the file back and delete the first line of the file [02:48] file access doesn't work like that [02:49] so instead, you write to a file, then start writing to another file [02:49] if anyone uses /usr/src/local/ what are your perms for it? [02:49] once the second file is full, you delete the first and start writing to a third [02:50] qartis, yes but logs don't usually have the output from 1 command only [02:50] I'm not sure what you mean [02:51] its easy to check a log thats been made over days or weeks with separate command output and do somthing like if [[ wc -l log > ]]; then mv log log.N [02:52] but with one single command running it's harder [02:52] i can't seem to get logrotate to do what i want [02:53] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:54] dive: most log rotating tools use truncate(2), so the command can keep writing to the file as the file is continually being cleared [02:54] well maybe truncate will do it then [02:55] i'm pretty sure logrotate is exactly what i want [02:55] i just am not settign it up properly or something [02:55] damn it's c [02:55] hiptobecubic, how big is this log going to be exactly? [02:55] they don't just mv the old file and touch a new one in its place, otherwise the command's output would just keep going to the old file [02:56] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-9-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:56] i was going to have it rotate between two logs daily [02:57] well.. maybe weekly [02:57] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [02:57] hiptobecubic, so it's not one single output from a command? [02:57] its many days of output as separate lines? [02:58] yes it is from one command. [02:58] that runs continuously [02:58] ah [02:58] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-133-201-110.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [02:59] couldn't you run a daemon that checks it all the time with wc -l and mv's it to final.log then deletes original? [02:59] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.208.111) joined ##slackware. [02:59] no maybe not [02:59] dive, i guess. but how is that simpler than just adding an entry to the already successful logrotater? [03:00] you said logrotate wouldn't work [03:00] i think it's a user error [03:00] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [03:01] /etc/logrotate.conf [03:01] i'm using that now, but i'm not having a lot of success [03:01] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) joined ##slackware. [03:01] 'morning! [03:01] dive: you couldn't just delete the original, because then any output would be lost [03:01] http://rafb.net/p/zYSw8251.html look at the end.. it's what i just made [03:01] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] written to a file descriptor that will disappear as soon as the program stops writing to it [03:02] wait shit.... [03:02] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.208.111) left irc: Client Quit [03:02] oh god damnnit [03:03] i'm always ssh'ing all over the place and i end up editing the wrong files [03:03] is there a way to set the title of the terminal to $USER@$HOST or something? [03:03] for some terminals [03:04] hiptobecubic, PS1="\u@\h(\w) " [03:04] ps1? [03:04] put that in the system .bashrc that you are sshing to [03:05] hmm alright [03:07] Action: BP{k} uses colours for different systems [03:07] oh dive i see what that does. that's not what i was looking for [03:07] Kernel question: On a laptop with SATA controller, I took out all the legacy CONFIG_IDE and related configuration, but same kernel version, same everything else. I think the fan is now running more often. Can this be due to the system working heavier since I "removed too much"? Only way to learn is to experiment... [03:08] in xfce you can set the terminal title [03:08] hiptobecubic, You mean the prompt itself, or the title of your terminal window? [03:08] as in the title of the window [03:08] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:08] hiptobecubic, OK, in KDE this is also done automagically, in xterm/xfce you need to set it yourself [03:08] hiptobecubic: you can as well in KDE. [03:08] yes [03:08] right, well i'm sure it can be scripted if i knew the command to change the terminal title [03:08] Action: BP{k} thinks the default is -s [03:09] you can echo an escape code to do that [03:09] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:10] just send an escape sequence \033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME} [03:10] and put it in your PROMPT_COMMAND [03:10] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-129-230.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:10] Yalla-One, yeah i just found that:) thanks [03:10] such as: PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}\007" [03:11] aha :-) [03:11] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [03:11] what's PROMPT_COMMAND? [03:11] hiptobecubic, it's a command that's run each time the prompt is printed [03:11] so it's executed before the prompt [03:11] couldn't you put it in .bash_profile ? [03:11] You don't want to put anything heavy or time-consuming in there [03:11] yeah - that's what you do - you add that line to .bash_profile [03:12] ok i see [03:12] thanks [03:14] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to the channel [03:15] hi Old_Fogie [03:15] hello Yalla-One :) [03:15] evnin [03:15] i mean mornin [03:16] yes, I fell asleep on the chair in living room, just woke up, heh it's only 3am [03:16] EdgeX- (n=EdgeX-@CPE-58-169-241-17.wa.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:16] 8:16 am here [03:17] i fell asleep on couch [03:17] no kernel-gurus in here to take my bait? ;-) [03:17] good thing you woke up tho, dont miss work, heh [03:17] Yalla-One, I'm no guru but just wondering what was the question? [03:18] Yalla-One, the fan is on full all the time? [03:19] Old_Fogie, I took out the IDE parts of my kernel, and now the fan runs more often... [03:19] make sure you cpufreq in the kernel and the acpi fan modules [03:19] dive, Nope - not full, just a bit more. It used to be off nearly all the time, except when I recompile a kernel or something. Now it's running (albeit quietly) allmost all the time [03:19] dive, I didn't make any changes to that part at all - I just took out IDE [03:20] Here's the diff in kernel .config from before and after I took out CONFIG_IDE and friends: [03:20] http://pastebin.com/m5ac1d423 [03:20] you might need echo conservative > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor [03:20] maybe [03:20] dive, I'm running ondemand, which is the recommended one, and I didn't change that one either - just took out IDE. [03:21] So the question is if taking out IDE causes other parts of the kernel to "work harder" or similar? [03:21] i thought conservative was the rcommended one? [03:21] anyway [03:21] i would have thought taking out all the generic stuff would be better [03:22] dive, No - the difference in conservative and ondemand is just how quickly they scale down. ondemand causes it to go up less frequently, and therefore the overall savings are supposedly the best at ondemand, according to a long lkml thread a few months back. can't quote it exactly though, lowlevel details way over my head [03:22] Yalla-One, I'm not good on acpi stuff, but I've heard many people echo what dive is saying on using conservative here lately . [03:22] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-6-49-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] Old_Fogie, Yeah, but it doesn't explain an identical system having more fan noise simply for taking out CONFIG_IDE when the scaling governor and other parts remain equal and no other parts of the kernel was touched... I'm more intrigued than anything else, since I thought taking out legacy stuff would make things run smoother, not the other way around :-) [03:23] I cant think of any reason really, why taking out the IDE stuff would make you have that issue tho [03:23] Yalla-One, I thought it was the exact opposite - conservative goes up and down less frequently than ondemand [03:23] you might wanna check that out [03:24] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] will do... [03:24] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@207-255-100-078-dhcp.unt.pa.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] ondemand *should* have a faster reaction time [03:24] anyway, i've been loyal and faithful with ondemand for a rather long time, so it doesn't explain the difference for this one... [03:24] Yalla-One, is it possible that you have some run away process or something, or have you seen this over a few days time or so? [03:25] Old_Fogie, Seen it since yesterday over half a dozen reboots. It's not much, since the fan is far from full speed, but for consistency's sake I now boot to rl3 to keep kde4 out of the way, and my feeling is tht the fan now runs a bit more. not much though [03:25] I see. [03:25] it's possible that something in the config is working overtime because some module was taken out, but finding it is another thing... [03:26] dive, Exactly... I haven't the foggiest on how to find it... My gut feeling says I took out too much, but it boots and finds all components, so I wouldn't know what... [03:28] have you tried booting with stock kernel just to be sure that it is a kernel thing? [03:28] aha - I saved parts of the ondemand vs conservative message in my local bitbucket :-) - thing is that ondemand goes up quicker, gets the job done, and gets over it, causing overall less heat and powerconsumption, while conservative "starves" the processor by dragging the entire process out ... [03:29] Yalla-One, that's interesting - I will go back to ondemand then if that's the case [03:29] dive, Well - the stock kernel runs much heavier than the one I've been using the past few months. The difference only occurs when I take out IDE. When booting the stock kernel I don't get the wireless etc [03:29] I used to use it [03:29] EdgeX- (n=EdgeX-@121.221.155.84) joined ##slackware. [03:30] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] anyway - the solution to my problem *probably* lies with someone familiar with the inner workings of the legacy IDE drivers vs the new SATA ones, and how the upper layers use these drivers... [03:30] Yalla-One, got it just right :D [03:30] hiptobecubic, coolness [03:30] http://rafb.net/p/hiUMAy50.html [03:30] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:32] hiptobecubic, why have you got user@host twice in that PS1? [03:33] dive, the first one is escaped and becomes the title of the window [03:33] so now it follows you with ssh and directory changes, etc [03:33] it's pretty rad [03:33] not here it doesn't but then i'm not using x [03:34] if you have an xterm* terminal it should [03:34] i see like 'user@host: user@host' in prompt [03:34] IrquiM (n=irquim@145.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:34] im using plain linux [03:34] dive, is that so? odd. what terminal? [03:34] ohhh [03:34] linux term [03:34] no x [03:34] if you're just at the cli then yeah [03:34] it has no window title [03:35] so it probably just poops itself and spits out whatever [03:35] i would have have though keeping PS1 separate from BASH_COMMAND would be better tbh [03:35] although i just tested it.... [03:36] and when i use a vt, i just get the second case as my prompt [03:36] which is "bash$ " [03:36] i just pasted in command line [03:36] didnt use the whole 'if' thing [03:36] sorry [03:36] too early for me ;) [03:36] oh well yeah [03:37] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.158.232) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [03:37] i used to do what BP{k} said - have a different colour for remote machines [03:37] i had my desktop box as green [03:37] and root would be red [03:38] how do i do, IF the contexts of dirA are not the same as dirB THEN...do whatever [03:38] my laptop is white with red for root [03:38] contents* [03:38] override (n=override@76.192.219.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:38] dive, hmm [03:38] that's interesting [03:39] how? with bash_profile? just using... like... [ $(id -u) = 0 ] or something? [03:39] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] define some colors and then change PS1 in .bash_profile [03:39] hiptobecubic: because bash_profile is *per* user anyway. export PS1= [03:39] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.180.118) joined ##slackware. [03:39] BP{k}, what? [03:40] WHITE="\[\033[1;37m\]" [03:40] hiptobecubic: there is no global .bash_profile, each user has its own. [03:40] PS1="${WHITE}\w ;) ${GREY}" [03:41] GREY="\[\033[0;37m\]" [03:41] BP{k}, there is, infact a global one.... /etc/profile no? [03:41] wrong order but thats how i do it [03:42] hiptobecubic: /etc/profile != .bash_profile. but yes [03:42] hiptobecubic, you can use global but if you want say root to be red than you need to use ~/.bash_profile and /root/.bash_profile [03:42] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [03:43] hmm [03:43] hiptobecubic: you might benefit from reading bash(1), especially the INVOCATION section. [03:44] oxon (n=oxon@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [03:46] BP{k}, wotcha :) [03:46] Old_Fogie: wotchers! [03:48] guys i just installed 2.6.28 and trying to install nvidia driver.. it says i am missing kernel headers so it can compile some stuff [03:48] is the kernel headers in linux-2.6.28/kernel [03:49] and where do i put em? [03:49] Shrp_, just had this problem. it's a bug with the installer you need to get the beta [03:49] 180 or better [03:49] you're using 177? [03:49] 177.82 [03:49] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:50] yeah you need to get the beta... hold on i'll link and you can wget [03:50] cool thx [03:50] Shrp_, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.17/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.17-pkg1.run [03:50] awesome [03:51] thx but are the kernel headers installed.. when i compiled the kernel? [03:51] or do i need to do something? [03:51] if you installed the kernel properly they should be. i had it complain about headers when i tried to install 177.x as well [03:51] just try 180 and see if it works [03:51] ok [03:51] if not, then start snooping around [03:51] heh [03:51] brb [03:51] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [03:52] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-190-7.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:57] super-st0ned (n=bart@c89222.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:59] mmm... [03:59] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [03:59] damnit [04:02] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] thx hiptobecubic that was indeed the fault of nvidia [04:03] :) [04:03] the beta driver installed perfectly [04:05] lovely [04:05] actually in 2.6.28 [04:05] good day today 2 for 2 compiling kernels [04:10] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:12] Shrp_, checkout distcc or icecc and ccache [04:13] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [04:14] i love distcc but i didn't have a lot of luck with ccache. i don't knwo what i did but compile times went up [04:15] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:15] greetings slackwareres :) [04:18] mornin [04:18] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [04:19] hiya dive [04:20] hiptobecubic, ccache comes in handy when you gotta recompile due to some bug or another... [04:20] Buggaboo, yeah i read the man page. it looked pretty swell. i just didn't have it working correctly [04:21] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:21] make CC="ccache gcc" ... [04:21] with distcc [04:21] make CC="ccache distcc" [04:21] oh [04:21] maybe i'll try it again [04:21] okay. [04:21] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [04:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-130.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [04:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-130.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] you could use an alias of course alias gcc="distcc" ; alias g++="distcc" [04:30] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [04:31] alias cc="gcc" ; alias gcc="distcc" is dangerous since distcc takes cc as a default parameter... [04:31] hiptobecubic, this is what I use for distcc/ccache from alphageeks site, for slack *12.1* ; you *DO* need to modify for *any* othe version of slack the symlinks, http://pastebin.com/d6a4ef1ae [04:31] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.180.118) left irc: "leaving" [04:31] so watch out for loops. [04:31] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:32] higuita, you still need his other scripts in ~/.distcc for the the ccache's distcc, but you get the idea. that is the masquerading that's referred to in 'man distcc' and 'man ccache' [04:33] fail [04:33] hiptobecubic, ^^ [04:33] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [04:33] his work has saved me a *ton* of hours read his site, its' awesome. [04:34] Thanks, Old_Fogie, I'll check it out when I get home. [04:34] what's nice is it,in essence uses "make -j2" for example, and your not exporting any makeflags, which I have found there is way too many things that break using makeflags still. [04:35] Buggaboo, if you got problems let me know, I've been using his system now for , well I guess a year or so? not sure, but I've built all of my gnomes and kde and my whole repo (using a buildsystem) that uses his work. [04:36] I have a 12.2 script here, but that box is in room with sleeping kiddies with 12.2 scripts [04:36] i'll look at it thinaks [04:36] I've sent him an email but it came back with updates to his stuff, so dont know if/when he'll change the page [04:36] thanks* [04:37] If you ever see Mr. V's slackbuilds from Slackware itself, you'll see that he uses "make $NUMJOBS" ; which this technique fits right into. SBo does too as well a times (on some scripts) [04:39] Old_Fogie, i've actually half constructed this on my own by trial and error with distcc masquerading [04:39] hiptobecubic, oh yea cool. well at least you know you're onto the right track then :) [04:40] hiptobecubic, I used to declare the "CC" and "CXX" just above ./configure calling the ccache and distcc, that worked great for programs in C, but boy was it a mess for KDE, as they use an 'odd' (for lack of better term at the moment) "libtool" and many times, amarok for instance would just fail; as would many kde apps. [04:41] i made symlinks in /usr/local/bin that point to distcc instead of cc or gcc or g++ etc. Then ran into errors when a remote machine was distributing TO a machine with the symlinks... so to get around that i took distcc and mad an rc.distccd script that exports PATH without "/usr/local/bin" in it to avoid recursion. It seems sketchy but it works like magic. [04:41] this is all without ccache though [04:41] and ccache has to be called first, doesn't it? [04:42] hiptobecubic, yea you dont need to do that with this. All I do to build something is "source /root/.distcc/dc+" and then "export NUMBJOBS=-j10" and then just "./appname.SlackBuild" and get good ole' distcc and ccache at once. [04:43] or if I dont want distcc, I just /root/.distcc/c+ ; which is ccache only for a local build. [04:43] in his other scripts, the c+,d+,dc+,dc- he sets/unsets the paths for you. [04:43] so as you source them on the fly, paths are set, boom! done. [04:43] no log in / out [04:44] that sounds nice [04:45] Yeah you basically make them symlinks (he has that I updated for 12.1); and put the c+,d+,dc+,dc- into a folder /root/.distcc/ ; oh yeah and grab his HOSTLIST file too. [04:45] the HOSTLIST file is used to tell distcc which pc's to use. [04:45] /etc/distcc/hosts isn't it? [04:46] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:46] if using distcc, to kick that on is as simple as "distccd --daemon --allow 127.0.0.1 19X.XXX.XXX ..etc" [04:47] hiptobecubic, yes but global. so some people dont build as root, or want quick editing in lieu of global. I just went with what he had there. dunno, which is better, it works, heh :) [04:47] hiptobecubic, and you can use distccmon-text to monitor the distcc's [04:48] I'll try it the next time i'm sitting aronud and it isn't 5am. [04:48] hiptobecubic, you can have inetd run distcc too, I dont because my distcc farm isnt attached to my lan or internet. but that's what allow is for anyway in the launch command, ehe [04:48] as i have it right now, my makeflags are exported from /etc/profile [04:48] yeah I dont use them, too many broken builds [04:49] yeah? i haven't seen that yet [04:49] what is NUMBJOBS? [04:49] is that like MAKEFLAGS=-jX [04:50] yea but some code isn't written to do parrallel builds, and then the build fails on makeflags, but with just make -j2 for example it wont. some say if the code does makeflags it'll be faster, but I've yet to see a noticeable difference when I tested both ways. [04:50] interesting [04:50] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-224.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:51] so NUMBJOBS doesn't have those issues? why wouldn't it? [04:51] hiptobecubic, read that site, he explains it better than me [04:51] I found the same things he indicates there too. [04:51] which sight is this? alphageek? [04:52] hiptobecubic: http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/distcc/ [04:52] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:52] hiptobecubic, yup [04:52] oh slackmagic yup :) [04:52] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [04:52] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Old_Fogie, "some say" make it sounds like automake is shrowded in myth. [04:54] :) [04:55] I suppose, but "time ./appname.SlackBuild" using one way or the other doesn't lie :) [04:56] bbiab, time for my first breakfast of the day :) [04:56] Time to break out the bran flakes, eh? [04:59] oxon_ (n=oxon@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] sherique (n=se@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:02] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Old_Fogie, this looks we had the same idea for how make this work. He just polished his turds a little more. I'll give a try next time. [05:04] i'm off [05:04] night all [05:04] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) left irc: Connection timed out [05:04] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) joined ##slackware. [05:05] i just noticed some odd behavior. issuing mv form1.pnm ../ from /home/user/dir results in form1.pnm being moved to /mnt/sdb1/ why is it doing that ? [05:06] hi all [05:06] marry xmas and happy new year [05:07] ahhh ic [05:07] forgot i was working from a symbolically linked dir ... [05:07] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [05:08] cd/cp don't treat the symbolic link the same as mv [05:10] hey guys,,, is there something like lanstate(win) but for slackware?/linux [05:11] th3nux3r (n=th3nux3r@202.150.88.155) left irc: "Leaving" [05:11] what does it do? [05:12] network management,administrator [05:12] ...etc [05:12] btw slackware == linux unlike what most people think today :) [05:12] sahko: yeah..that is true..thats why i said linux...or slackware pkg [05:13] sahko: i did forget the pkg bit though ;) you are right [05:14] no it wasnt meant for you. it was rather general. like when you read an article that says foo that on linux and it goes on about stuff applicable only on ubuntu or debian [05:14] anyway theres shitloads of tools for networking on linux [05:14] heh [05:15] like what? something with a gui? [05:16] nmap/ntop/wireshark others maybe too. it depends on what exactly you are looking for [05:16] oxon (n=oxon@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:16] [MA]Amine_ (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [05:16] im not good with guis, someone else can probably help more [05:19] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [05:19] hmm got those... [05:20] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-1d6b78559380e2f8) joined ##slackware. [05:23] maybe look at the network section in SBo [05:24] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:25] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "God said to Abraham, 'Kill me a son!'" [05:25] can i make xorg suspend my system after a period of inactivity? like not just the monitor, but the whole suspend to ram or to disk? [05:25] did already ;) [05:26] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:26] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [05:27] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[05:40] apache logs, now, i don't know much about it, mainly just playing with apache, i see several GET /nonexistenshit and GET's searching for msgimport, whats that about [05:41] lokedk (i=loke@5634dd5f.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:50] lokedk (i=loke@5634dd5f.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:51] what is the name of the beep module for echo $'\a' to work ? [05:55] pcspkr maybe [05:56] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [06:01] awesome that works nooper :) [06:09] e01 (n=e01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [06:10] c0nflict: possibly ppl trying to hax u. google it to be sure [06:12] slackware-jennie (n=jennie@unaffiliated/slackware-jennie) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:12] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. 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[06:20] wrote me a bash script to scan an image, then ring 3 times and wait 30 seconds before scanning another :) [06:20] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:23] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [06:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:24] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-1d6b78559380e2f8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-302a8d6723f9e29e) joined ##slackware. [06:26] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:28] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left irc: "Leaving" [06:34] dios_mio (i=test2@88.241.138.127) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:35] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:42] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.15.30) joined ##slackware. [06:42] [MA]Amine_: if it's one of the slackware/a/kernel-* on the mirrors, try installpkg. but there's no update for 12.2 [06:42] try LXDE packages at http://saxenos.com/lxde, neither KDM nor xwmconfig recognized it, any tip? [06:43] <[MA]Amine_> rumpf: I see, thx [06:44] dios_mio (i=test2@88.243.7.217) joined ##slackware. [06:45] abby (n=abby@84-254-189-67.ip.skylogicnet.com) joined ##slackware. [06:45] someone help me? [06:45] $ find . -name *.rej [06:45] Does not recursively fine files [06:45] How do I do it then? [06:46] Nevermind I got it [06:46] I think you need to escape the * [06:46] k [06:46] rob0, yeah [06:47] talk to JAG yet? [06:48] I'd have to leave here and go to the main base around here [06:48] I'm about 50 miles from Pakistan and there is nothing here [06:49] damn [06:51] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-224.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [06:51] When I go on leave I'll talk to them [06:51] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-224.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:51] baradude (n=baradude@58.137.93.218) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:52] muxer_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:54] [MA]AMine_: but the update would be in patches/ (next to slackware/a/). if you can't live with the default kernel and there's no update provided, i suppose you must adapt source/a/kernel-huge-smp/kernel-huge-smp.Slack [06:55] <[MA]Amine_> rumpf: why there is no official update manager for slackware ? like merge, aptitude ... [06:56] v4nelle (n=van@adsl66-80.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:56] [MA]Amine_, design decision [06:57] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:58] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [06:58] muxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:59] If you want Debian, why not use Debian? [07:00] If you want Debian plus long compile times, why not use Gentoo? [07:00] fedora is great. it has a popup thing in your desktop when there are updates *shudder* [07:01] you mean, like windowz? [07:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] lol [07:03] I have conky update notification [07:03] :D [07:03] i <3 conky [07:04] well if you join the slackware security mailing lis also mailed whenever a sec update is made [07:05] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.15.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:05] theyre the updates im interested in [07:06] abby (n=abby@84-254-189-67.ip.skylogicnet.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:09] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [07:11] muxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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Perhaps that's enough :) [07:49] ah cool --> notify-send -t 5000 "%n" <-- in the preferences..general plugins..Song Change ..configure of xmms. shows nice libnotify pop up :) [07:50] Ongavezir (n=ongavezi@catv-86-101-111-174.catv.broadband.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@catv-86-101-111-174.catv.broadband.hu' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:50] Ongavezir kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: -NOEINTELLIGENCE [07:51] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:53] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.15.30) joined ##slackware. [07:56] kama (n=kama@host251-163-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] Old_Fogie, xmms ? [07:57] mohaa, yup [07:57] you know the cd/music player [07:57] Reaver_11 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] yep [07:59] should have "man mount" but short of time, what's the command to mount an iso image to cdrom? [08:00] -t iso9660 [08:00] -o loop [08:00] mount -vo loop,ro /path/to/image /mount/point [08:00] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:00] thanks buddies [08:01] Action: Zordrak is slowly bpggining to like dvorak [08:01] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [08:01] I've stopped losing the V for a start [08:03] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:03] the standard qwerty keyboard was apparently chosen because "type writer" can be spelled with just the top row, making it easy to demonstrate and sell [08:06] I think that's more likely just myth or legend [08:07] I always thought it was picked so as to minise the chances of two typewriters arms hitting each other [08:08] type racer ftw [08:08] that's certainly the historically recorded reason [08:10] ktabic, that's correct [08:10] WOOO!!!! 0870 and 0845 numbers are finally on the path to being free!! [08:11] Action: Zordrak points all UK residents at the latest story on the register [08:12] "MobileMe wreaks wipey revenge on freetards?" [08:12] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:13] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [08:13] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [08:13] ok.. so they released a new story 3 mins ago [08:14] sci-fi lovers, lend me your wisdom, I got Alastair Reynolds, Orson Scott Card, Robert A Heinlein, Philip K Dick on my b'day wishlist, who else? No Herbert, got that. [08:14] the 2ND most recent story [08:14] Buggaboo, of people to re-animate? [08:14] Neal Asher [08:14] hm. No published works. [08:15] Richard Morgan? [08:15] buggaboo, picard! [08:15] Hm, I dunno why Asimov and that recently dead guy who boasts to have mindfarted sattelites... do not appeal to me. [08:15] Vonnegut didn't like to think of himself as sci-fi, but is well worth a read for anyone. [08:16] yeah, Vonnegut good [08:16] pkd liked Ursula le Guinn [08:18] zhonghua (n=zhonghua@123.184.3.70) joined ##slackware. [08:18] hm. Neal Asher -> postcyberpunk... wtf? Aren't those just reactionary cyberpunks, i.e. they who have lost their way... [08:19] Vonnegut FTW!!! [08:19] neal asher is more a dark banks culture [08:19] What's Asher's greatest bestestest? [08:19] with none of the fluffy bunnies [08:20] hi, there mighte be some errors for my ntfs partitions. so i run fsck /dev/hda1 to check where the errors layout, but get an error like:fsck.ntfs: not found [08:20] Took me YEARS to find a digital copy of the Harrison Bergeron film [08:20] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-169-77.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Well worth the wait! [08:20] line of the polity, brass man, or polity agent would be my recommendations [08:20] why and how to check my harddisk with ntfs partitions? [08:20] zhonghua, there is no fsck for NTFS. [08:20] although gridlinked is the first in that series [08:21] zhonghua: HawkPE [08:21] Zordrak, copyright expired? You seeding? [08:21] but how can i check my disk? there was an io error said there was an error at 39375418 sector [08:22] Zordrak, is that the one with the Handicapper General? [08:22] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:22] has anyone tried Windows 7 on VBox? Is 1GB enough for everything? just wanna fool around, no big deal [08:22] I've read almost all his books, but never saw any of the movies, not even Slaughterhouse Five. [08:23] ooh, I read slaughterhouse. [08:23] say 8 years ago. [08:23] rob0: yeah [08:23] don't recall much though. [08:23] rob0: i friggin love that filmlm [08:23] but when i used partitionmagic to check my harddisk errors, no error it got [08:24] zhonghua, partedmagic is better. [08:24] zhonghua, have you tried PartedMagic? It's free and it's better [08:24] IntangibleLiquid, me first :P [08:24] Buggaboo, totally agree with you :) [08:24] Buggaboo: no i think still under CR [08:24] Buggaboo, oh well [08:24] Buggaboo: i got a V V good VHS rip [08:25] Hm. [08:25] I go look if anyone's seeding. [08:25] im not sure PartedMagic is what i said or not. its really disk partitions manager tool i usually use [08:26] zhonghua, if you boot it from a Live CD, and you haven't paid a penny for it, tha's probably it [08:26] What's a good Richard Morgan one? [08:26] its a dos mode program. which can't find any errors about my harddisk [08:26] zhonghua, wild guess it's fdisk or cfdisk :) [08:26] Buggaboo: a long time ago i asked the studio if they will release on DVD... they said they didnt know... but for Ł200 they'd do it especially for me [08:27] i know fdisk, but i haven't one, is there a linux version? [08:27] "dos mode"? [08:27] zhonghua, yes, certainly there is [08:27] i meant dos mode as dos program [08:28] my prob was it was only released on NTSC VHS.. not on PAL [08:28] oh, i found fdisk has been installed on my slackware 12.1 [08:29] Zordrak, hm. the money-grubbing basturds. [08:29] zhonghua, yeb, it's the thing you were asked to use for partitioning during installation [08:29] im sorry, i forgot it [08:30] you guys make me wanna watch a good sci-fi film, anything on torrent? [08:30] Buggaboo: it was fair [08:30] not simple to do a good reel->DVD [08:30] esp as a one off [08:31] rumpf (n=a@e179144182.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:31] thing is, i'm dead poor, and on the other side of the globe [08:31] but, i only can use fdisk to create or modify any partitions, how to check errors? [08:31] i was happy they even offered... just couldnt afford it [08:32] buggaboo: richard morgan: altered carbon [08:32] Zordrak, there's an ion (c) dvd to avi converter out there for under $200.- methinks. [08:32] ? [08:32] argh. [08:32] vcr to avi [08:33] damn acronyms :p [08:33] sounds like a big rip off [08:33] IntangibleLiquid, hm, whaddya like? What type of sci-fi? [08:33] IntangibleLiquid, I could recommend a bunch, but get specific :D [08:34] Buggaboo, for a starter, it can be anything, i love stuffs like Star Wars, i've heard geeks like Star Strek, is it good? [08:34] ehm. [08:34] they werent offering VHS->DVD .. they were offering a full on DVD prduction from the original film reels [08:34] zhonghua: badblocks -s [08:34] Well... star wars, the original ones are good. It's a heart-warming coming of age film. [08:35] Star trek, depends, which film? Or do you mean the series? If then, specify. [08:35] with space battles [08:35] I hated "enterprise" [08:35] who didnt [08:35] Buggaboo, watched star wars, funny thing i got really depressed when Anakin killed the guys, was very negative at that time [08:35] Buggaboo, probably the series [08:36] broke my heart cos i love scott bakula [08:36] when Anakin went berserko... I think that's when I fell asleep... [08:36] don't recall much after that. [08:36] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Buggaboo, lolz, it was just like at the right spot at the right time :) [08:37] Zordrak, Scott Bakula will always be in my heart for hm... what's that 80s show again? [08:37] sliders, jumpers... something like that. [08:37] duh! [08:37] SpacePlod, -s is for giving partitions size, not check errors [08:37] Quantum Leap [08:37] oh yeah. [08:37] THE TV show [08:38] best evar! [08:38] yep. [08:38] Good scenes of a man dressed in drag. [08:38] heh [08:38] Quantum Leap? [08:38] since he leaped into women in the same time-frame as well as men. [08:39] I recall it was mostly men though. [08:39] zhonghua: sorry...I'm going by memory. [08:39] np [08:39] I hear babylon 5 's good. dunno though. [08:39] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:40] A lot of who I am today was shaped by modelling myself on a combination of Sam Beckett and Jean-Luc Picard [08:41] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:41] you're bald and a borg? [08:41] B5 is good... but only once you really get into it [08:41] Zordrak, what's the best Star Trek "season" in your opinion? [08:41] straterra: personality of course [08:41] foldingstock (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:42] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:42] IntangibleLiquid: ST:TNG Season 5 [08:43] i use sfdisk -V /dev/hda, it returns OK [08:43] or maybe Season 6 [08:43] hard to choose [08:44] In any case, TNG rocks. [08:44] 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7 were ALL fantastic [08:44] zhonghua: that's just a consistency check for partition tables...to see if the table types and offsets match the disk layout. [08:44] Little character development though. [08:44] i dont know if i get it right, but i'm looking at http://www.startrek.com, being a noob is depressing lolz [08:44] 1 was OK amd 2 was good for amy ep without Pulaski [08:45] IntangibleLiquid, plenty time to work on your geekishness. [08:45] IntangibleLiquid, how old are you? [08:45] 23 [08:45] if there is an error at 39375418, how to locate it on my harddisk in MB or GB? [08:46] IntangibleLiquid: http://epguides.com/StarTrekTheNextGeneration/ [08:46] Math? If that's a sector error, then it's a 512byte offset...I would imagine. [08:46] i don't know how to caculate the natural size [08:46] IntangibleLiquid, plenty of time. [08:46] Buggaboo, i would have thought you would have said I was old lolz [08:47] during my slackware was booting, there was an error msg said IO error at sector 39375418 [08:47] i'm going to have a pretty long Lunar New Year, so this is quite neat [08:47] IntangibleLiquid: bah! children ;) [08:48] zhonghua, this is the best thing i can find for you http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsfix, it belongs to http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php, which is inluded in PartedMagic [08:48] zhonghua: sector of what? A partition or a disk (fo example: /dev/sda or /dev/sda1) [08:48] i got it, that location is rightly the end of my first partition [08:49] I've come to a decision..... [08:49] Zordrak, thanks, but "children" is a bit too much [08:49] IntangibleLiquid: is that in ntfsprogs yet? I thought it was "planned". [08:49] /dev/hda [08:49] ST:TNG Season 6 :D [08:49] SpacePlod, yeb [08:50] Zordrak, but is it like Heroes in which you have to follow from the beginning? damn [08:50] no# [08:50] not at all [08:50] awesome! [08:50] IntangibleLiquid, no. [08:50] 1st ep i ever saw was in season 5 [08:50] thanks all, i will have a try. [08:50] called "Disaster" [08:51] IntangibleLiquid, you might find the pace a bit slowish, compared to the fast mtv scene-cutting pace in shows nowadays. [08:51] now i need to look at isohunt :) [08:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:51] Demonoid has them all in good quality [08:51] zhonghua (n=zhonghua@123.184.3.70) left irc: "Leaving" [08:51] Buggaboo, that's not a problem [08:52] Zordrak, that saves a lot of time :) [08:52] VERY good quality for the size [08:52] sucituanbo (n=full@c-24-21-121-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [08:52] Upped by BlarneyPete [08:53] shevek (n=shevek@athedsl-203236.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Nick change: shevek -> Guest19019 [08:54] I need more dystopian sci-fi shows. [08:54] No wait... i saw Conundrum first.... and got very confused [08:55] Never let Conundrum be the first TNG episode someone watches [08:56] allend (n=allend@124-168-114-63.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:56] 14GB, that's like the hugest TV show i'll ever watch in my life haha [08:56] it's worth it [08:57] the DVD rip is like 60GB per season [08:57] Nick change: Guest19019 -> abendrot [08:57] 14GB is good for V high quanity [08:58] Nick change: abendrot -> shevek^ [08:59] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Nick change: shevek^ -> aperturefever [08:59] do they do public display for affection on irc? :) [08:59] but i need a registration code :( [09:00] or an invitation [09:00] www.demonoid.com that is [09:03] foureyes879 (n=don@97-113-178-63.tukw.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [09:03] I don't understand why TNG had to introduce Q at all. [09:03] Zordrak can you invite me to demonoid? [09:06] find ./ -name "movie-swap-talk-chit-chat" -exec mv {} /dev/private-message || true :) [09:06] Old_Fogie, you're late [09:08] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@201.244.188.98) joined ##slackware. [09:14] allend (n=allend@124-168-114-63.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:16] TNG was the best :) [09:17] Wizard (n=wziuuuuu@siodemka.p.lodz.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:17] hi :) [09:22] i installed an older version of deluge, that was installed running setup.py. How do I uninstall something like this? [09:22] vinnie_: check what setup.py does [09:28] ps, this is why we use packages :> [09:28] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:29] thrice`, exactly [09:29] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.75.39) joined ##slackware. [09:29] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.75.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:30] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:31] thrice`: yeah... i hated to do it, but the tracker i used would only allow version 1.0.5. Just today they started allowing 1.0.7, which is in slackbuild [09:32] vinnie_: few years ago i used to build my own slack packages.. [09:32] it wasn't very hard, really :) [09:33] you could try to build the package for 1.0.5, and installpkg it (overriding what you installed), and then just removepkg. dirty, but might work\ [09:33] I'm thinking of doing a rewrite of my slackbuild generator, something that will also generate stuff for x86_64 archs. [09:34] well i tried using the slackbuild for 1.0.7 and modifying the version to 1.0.5, but kept getting errors, so i just use source only [09:34] Action: Buggaboo sighs [09:34] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:34] so many projects, so little time... [09:35] just so you know, i'm on demonoid now :) [09:37] whatever that means [09:37] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:38] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-52-197.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:01] ANyone with initrd experience.. is it fairly easy / possible to make a hugesmp equivalent initrd? ie am moving an entire OS from box A to box B and need box B to boot first time regardless of performance so want to prepare by putting a "hardware-complete" initrd on box A [10:01] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) joined ##slackware. [10:01] mwen (n=ledre@120.161.202.112) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:02] Zordrak, why not have the huge kernel on board as stock kernel, I mean it's only a few meg [10:02] or, if you know the basics about box B, make it an initrd [10:02] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:03] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:03] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [10:04] box A is the production webserver - box B is a temporary going in as a placeholder while box A gets a complete overhaul [10:04] hey guys, I have a already installed cs1.6 which I would like to play with wine [10:04] how do I go about that [10:04] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.20.221) joined ##slackware. [10:04] besides putting it in the .wine/c: [10:05] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] (excuse slowness.. getting to grips with dvorak [10:05] Zordrak, well the huge-smp kernel is distrib'd for just this point, relocation and not needing to fiddle with initrd's ya know. [10:05] Old_Fogie: I knew I'd have to tell you this.................. [10:06] box A currently running FC5 [10:06] ! [10:06] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.20.221) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] straterra (n=straterr@ipv6.projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] overhaul is to slack 12.2 [10:07] Zordrak, so your asking us "how do I make an initrd for fedora" [10:07] ? [10:07] no [10:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.83.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:08] asking how{if} to create hardware complete initrd regardless of OS [10:09] Why not just use the huge kernel and be done with it? [10:09] just happens i wouldnt need to if it were already slack [10:09] different distros have their own methods of producing initrd's [10:09] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.65.111) joined ##slackware. [10:09] Zordrak, initrd is kernel dependent, which is glibc dependent amongst other things that are tied to an OS [10:09] thrice`: oh [10:09] Pat wrote the mkinitrd script for slackware, for example [10:09] ahhh [10:10] i thought mkinitrd was upstream [10:10] my bad [10:10] the sourcecode is :) [10:10] it is ? [10:10] .... [10:10] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:11] thrice`, mkinitrd-version.tar.bz2 :) [10:11] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/source/a/mkinitrd/mkinitrd hardly :> [10:11] forget it, joke over the head I s'pose [10:11] dorayakikun (i=1000@114.58.81.138) joined ##slackware. [10:12] totally my bad.. will find out how to emulate hugesmp for fedora *shudder* [10:12] O.o [10:14] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [10:20] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] oxon_ (n=oxon@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] Wizard (n=wziuuuuu@siodemka.p.lodz.pl) left ##slackware. [10:22] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejb21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:23] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [10:27] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:30] ugh.. fedora users are such dicks [10:31] at least those in fedora irc channels [10:31] have to return here for respite [10:33] lol [10:34] tbf they have to be or they wouldnt be using it [10:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-169-77.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:37] hey guys, I have a already installed cs1.6 which I would like to play with wine [10:37] besides putting it in the .wine/c: [10:37] how do I go about that [10:39] cs 1.6 users need a 12 step recovery program [10:39] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:39] ... [10:41] lucio12345 (n=chatzill@host-84-221-208-230.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [10:41] well cs is one of the already installed programs (and the only 1 that is a game) from windows based structure that I need working on my slack [10:41] hello i have rootfs mounted on a small partition i would like to change it on a bigger partition how to do? [10:42] quick question, i installed LXDE via http://saxenos.com/lxde and now KDM and xwmconfig don't recoginize it, how do i make it recognizable? wanna try it out besides KDE4 [10:43] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] and I was guessing that many would know how to do that better with games then with other proggys [10:44] vdv (i=1000@pop-31-189.azeronline.com) joined ##slackware. [10:44] hi all [10:45] hi [10:46] Karlitoo: http://www.winehq.org/help/ [10:46] ahh, neat. a local craigslist post: sun v120 server for $80 [10:47] just installed 12.1 on HP 8530p, trying to configure [10:47] ananke: nice [10:47] lucio12345 (n=chatzill@host-84-221-208-230.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]" [10:47] 1gb of ram, 2x36gb scsi drives, overall not a bad box for $80 [10:47] ananke: 0_o you near blacksburg/christiansburg? [10:48] http://blacksburg.craigslist.org/sys/984712704.html [10:48] hackedhead : yes [10:48] probably will have problems with audio [10:48] small world =] [10:48] vdv: why not 12.2? [10:48] it usually is :) [10:49] didn't know that 12.2 already released [10:50] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.242.213) joined ##slackware. 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[11:25] working in the morning sucks [11:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-4-99-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] josemanuel (n=josemanu@237.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [11:29] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [11:29] v4nelle (n=van@adsl66-80.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [11:31] aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhh [11:31] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-133-201-110.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left irc: "I'm a professionally trainined computer scientist. That is to say, I am poorly educated" [11:31] I'm SO EFFING GLAD TO BE OUT OF ##fedora!!!! [11:31] Action: Zordrak sitsback in his chair, brathes and starts to try to relax [11:31] *breathes [11:31] anything special in fedora? [11:32] It turns out, apparantly, that you cannot get the equivalent of huge-smp (with or without initrd) in fedora because, and I quote, "that's just no the way things are done" [11:32] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [11:32] what a bunch of frigging morons [11:32] s/no/not/ [11:32] [ in bed ] [11:33] foureyes779 (n=don@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [11:33] well, you could make your own [11:33] slackytude: which is wht I've decided to do [11:33] anyone here using Virtualbox on slack12.2 ? [11:33] but they dont even agree with that [11:33] foureyes779: yep [11:33] and no-one suggested it as a possibility [11:33] I am looking at the SBo site for that pkg [11:33] foureyes779: on 12.1 not 12.2 yet [11:34] foureyes779: be aware there are a fair few prerequisites [11:34] Dominian, still in bed or already? [11:34] foureyes779: and they take time [11:34] foureyes779: eg i recommend qt4 which takes ages [11:34] slackytude: haha no [11:34] the Virtualbox-ose says to build the virtualbox kernel first, and the virtualbox-kernel says to build the VB-ose first ? [11:34] foureyes779: you can use the 12.1 buildscript on 12.2 [11:34] foureyes779: however, I would wait. [11:34] foureyes779: OSE first [11:34] wait until 2.1.0 is up on there [11:35] foureyes779: then the kernel modules [11:35] as you no longer need rc.vboxnet with 2.1.0 [11:35] ooo.. [11:35] foureyes779: dont listen to me listen to Dominion :) [11:35] I have the version for 12.0 on the system now, so can I just upgrade the VB-kernel ? [11:35] s/Dominion/Dominian/ [11:36] Solid (n=chatzill@host-84-221-208-230.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121300]" [11:37] Since 2.0.0 there is a Qt4 GUI, which at this point of time is still a little [11:37] bit buggy and therefore disabled by default. To enable it pass QT4=yes [11:37] to the script. [11:37] my network card isnt detected :( [11:37] Action: foureyes779 decides to wait [11:37] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:37] tnx Dominian [11:38] np [11:38] I will just run VB on my "l33t" Ubuntu box3n [11:38] I just use the binary intaller personally [11:38] hehe [11:39] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejb21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] Dominian: that was how I installed VB 1.6.0 [11:39] i dont have that luxury (iirc) the binary licence is incompatible with the use here for business purposes [11:39] just want to really learn how the Slackware system works. [11:40] lspci says: Network controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4232 [11:40] foureyes779: it works really well :( [11:40] :) [11:40] my mate said he dislikes slackware because the packagea re too old [11:40] damn typos [11:41] slackytude: is your mate a moron? [11:41] slackytude: no offence, just asking [11:41] so, he runs ubuntu, which makes me laugh [11:41] slackytude: what packages were tooo old? [11:41] Zordrak, he just hasnt experienced the slack [11:41] slackytude: tell your "friend' he's smoking crack and has no fucking clue what he's talking about [11:41] Dominian, slackware packages [11:41] yeah.. what slackware packages are out of date? [11:41] "oh they don't have the current svn/git/cvs repo builds" [11:42] if that's what he says.. he's a retarded idiot [11:42] probably [11:42] I tried showing sbo and when it didnt have scheme he was complaining [11:43] hah [11:43] Dominian: so, if I already have VB installed, can I just upgrade the vb-kernel pkg to make it work again ? [11:43] he uses ubuntu doesn't he? [11:43] he comes from arch linux but afaik, they aint that different from slack [11:43] foureyes779: hrm.. I would upgrade everything not just the kernel package.. unless I'm not completely following what ou're saying. [11:43] hp 8530p, linux-2.6.24.5, have problems with ethernet card [11:43] yeah, too much hassle to get arch working on his laptop, he said, and he wants to have lots of packages [11:43] vdv: uhh what are you running? [11:43] vdv: what version of Slackware? [11:43] Dominian: your following ok.... [11:44] 12.1 [11:44] vdv: like i said, if you've JUST installed it .. i would recommend dropping out.. installing 12.2 and trying agaihn [11:44] IF you have literally *just* installed it [11:45] the thing is that i haven't now 12.2 [11:45] and unfortunately can't download it either :( [11:45] but i have newer kernel [11:45] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [11:45] Dominian: any idea if vbox can be made to emulate a 64bit proc? [11:45] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] was it something I said? [11:45] :) [11:45] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejb21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:46] i'll build it when it helps [11:46] Many slackware packages are not cutting-edge ,which is just the slackware's way [11:46] heh [11:46] vdv: bottom line is.. what is the network card's chipset [11:46] vdv: and is there a kernel module you can load for it [11:46] i think ICH9 [11:46] vdv: cause if it doesnt wqork with huge-smp, it may not be built into the kernel.. but there may be a loadable module for it [11:47] Zordrak: I think vbox can do 64 if you are running a 64 host OS. [11:47] i've alreade switched to generic-smp [11:47] vdv: `cp /boot/config /usr/src/linux/.config` `make oldconfig` `make menuconfig` search for ICH9 [11:48] see if it's * M or just not there [11:48] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [11:48] BP{k}: yeah, thought probably would be.. just seemed (in principle) possible to emulate 64bit on a 32bit host just with a serious performance hit [11:49] Zordrak: it's possible. vmware can do it. [11:49] reason being (and I do have a good reason, dont shoot me) I pulled the Windows 7 beta and tried to boot it under VBox on 32-bit host and Win7 died with a "sorry.. need a 32bit proc" error [11:50] thought i might be able to set vbox to emulate 64 [11:51] AHAH!!! [11:51] Dominian: welcome back [11:51] Got it! [11:51] http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08%2F12%2F22%2F167238&from=rss [11:51] It *will* if I upgrade to 2.1 [11:51] gah [11:51] Zordrak: was looking at that yesterday [11:52] gonna have to run Win7 beta too [11:52] that is, if there is an official version [11:52] Oooo!! [11:52] Action: Zordrak is frigging DELIGHTED! [11:52] integrated host-based networking; no more fiddling around with network bridges [11:52] Zordrak: but the torrent was so darn slow I gave up on it after 5 hours [11:52] foureyes779: I pulled it in about 2 hrs this afternooon [11:52] Zordrak, yeah thats fine [11:53] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-178-224.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [11:53] I hate Sun with a passion.. but I LOVE VirtualBox [11:53] Zordrak, supposedly, there is some accelerated hardware avaible for guests too [11:53] Zordrak: great. [11:53] Zordrak: the network bridges was kinda annoying :) [11:54] BP{k}: I couldnt get it working for multiple users.. only one user at a time by specifying the user in the rc.tap [11:54] specifying by group just wouldnt workj [11:54] Zordrak: wow, thats cool. dont know why it was so darn slow here [11:54] supergear_ (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] they really have got their shit together havent they [11:54] i usually download at pretty high rates [11:55] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] give me 35s ad I'll have VBox2.1 :) [11:55] s/ad/and/ [11:55] Action: slackytude counts [11:56] 15s [11:56] Done [11:56] good enough [11:56] Thank god for laser internet connections :) [11:57] I can haz leezerz to? [11:57] s/to/too/ [11:57] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [11:57] If you live in Sheffield, UK and have a fair bit of cash handy [11:57] hmm no. [11:57] it's l;ike fibre.. but without the messy and breakable cableage :D [11:58] damn splitnode [11:58] hmm can we pull cable over the moors to manchester? ;) [11:58] perhaps not :) [11:58] dammit ;) [11:58] well, if its laser based, just beam it over [11:59] *big* laser [11:59] but who knows.. perhaps Manchester will be their next evolution [11:59] somehow I seriously doubt that ;) [12:00] very possible [12:00] heh [12:00] www.wiredworkplace.net [12:00] Action: foureyes779 has a wet shoestring Internet connection [12:01] theyre putting together a sheff-wide laser mesh network [12:02] skynet? [12:02] part of the T.O.S. is we agree to act as a repeater node if needed [12:02] slackytude: no brain yet [12:02] but maybe one day... [12:04] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:05] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [12:05] here we go... Win7.64bit booting inside vbox2.1 on a 32bit host :) [12:05] oh [12:05] or not it seems [12:06] Zordrak: where did you get the Win7 ? [12:06] wtf [12:06] foureyes779: PBo [12:06] dorayakikun (i=1000@114.58.81.138) left irc: "Leaving." [12:07] wtf... so is it just pretending to emulate 64bit? [12:08] Zordrak, you better not be working on my turf! :) [12:08] which is? [12:08] donny [12:09] Action: Zordrak backs away slowly [12:09] again [12:10] nah just kidding, gis a job heh [12:11] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] lol [12:12] Woh! [12:13] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [12:13] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:13] I enabled use of AMD-V and it is FLYING [12:13] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-77a8a0c6e15e758d) joined ##slackware. [12:14] and FYI 64-bit emulation reqs ACPI IO to be on [12:14] ukabin (n=ukabin@190.200.222.161) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Zordrak: I was trying to get the DVD image from tuxdistro [12:17] piratebay [12:18] will have to take a look at that, tnx [12:22] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-77a8a0c6e15e758d) left irc: "Leaving" [12:22] why lspci doesnt show my ethernet adapter model? [12:23] what do you mean by model ? [12:24] i came across a problem like that vdv, turned out that it was a dummy ethernet port :) [12:25] i spent hours yesterday diagnosing why my ether card wouldn't connect - turned out i was loading e100 module instead of e1000 [12:25] for example, for audio card lspci shows RV635 [12:25] happy thursday [12:25] Yeah, probably not shown [12:25] what does it say? [12:25] :D dive You too [12:26] vdv, But here I have it shown with lspci [12:26] I think the clue was in the 'Gigabyte' part of the name, but it didn't twig [12:26] pip@Thinkpip:~$ lspci | grep audio [12:26] 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [12:27] vdv, I think it comes down to what info can be gleaned from probing, but if that info doesn't come through it's the card's fault [12:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [12:27] what about lspci -v -v? [12:28] dive: lspci -vv [12:28] or that [12:28] :D [12:28] and on that note -- [12:28] lspci -vv | grep net [12:29] I'll name that tune in 1 [12:29] Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [12:29] "screw you guys; I'm-a-goin' haoem" :D [12:29] what [12:29] and what's the corresponding module? [12:30] I love that deepsouth accent [12:30] that looks like mine vdv [12:30] Nick change: ukabin -> ukabin^ [12:30] and? which module must i load? [12:30] might be e1000 or another in the 1000 cards [12:30] vdv, lspci -v or -vv or -vvv depends on your needs [12:30] one sec [12:30] could check with the pci id [12:31] Nick change: ukabin^ -> ukabin [12:31] e1000 doesn't work [12:31] if you can find it [12:31] is it pcie? [12:31] module loads, but running after ifconfig doesn't show the card [12:31] vdv, You want to know the corresponding driver loaded OR to be loaded ? [12:32] vdv, stock kernel from slackware ? [12:32] i want to know which linux kernel module is suitable [12:32] 2.6.24.5 [12:32] The fastest way it google online [12:32] *is [12:32] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:32] vdv, is it a PCIE card or what sort of card? [12:33] there's also e1000e [12:33] its probably a broadcom hehe [12:33] ip1000 [12:33] it's hp 8530p laptop [12:34] vdv, then read the user manual of your laptop [12:34] well the only 1000 intel cards in my kernel are e1000 e1000e and igb [12:35] thats the CLI for screenshot [12:35] whats* [12:35] goddamnit [12:35] that's a 2.6.27.7 kernel [12:36] import muxer [12:36] muxer, import [12:36] if you have imagemagick installed [12:36] otherwise, get scrot from slackbuilds.org [12:36] should ifconfig show the device immideately after modprobe? [12:37] ifconfig -a [12:37] ifconfig -a maybe [12:37] fuckin stupid laptop [12:38] e01 (n=e01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] have a gateway laptop here with no floppy drive or cd/dvd drive, and i'm trying to install xp on it... [12:38] hah [12:38] i hate this job sometimes lol [12:38] Necos hah. good luck [12:38] usb dvd drive == fail [12:38] usb floppy drive + xp setup floppies + usb dvd drive == fail [12:39] laptop won't boot from usb? [12:39] i'm running out of options [12:39] seriously, who would buy a laptop with no cd/dvd drive? [12:39] special needs kid :( [12:39] network install? [12:39] dive: network install with xp? [12:39] heh [12:39] there's a network install of xp? hmmm, pxe might work... [12:39] can be done.. but invovles the laptop supporting booting from PXE [12:39] no idea just grasping at thin air [12:41] [x] in bed [12:41] sure, there are ways to install it via network. look at 'unattended' project [12:41] buy a dvd drive and charge extra for it [12:41] that's how our desktop crew installs windows [12:41] [ in bed ] [12:41] :S [12:41] guitarma14 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] s/:S/:D [12:42] Old_Fogie, wtf? [12:42] heh [12:42] hahaha [12:42] whats up with the in Bed stuff? [12:42] dive, a joke from yesterday [12:42] I tried to untick that box but didn't work [12:42] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) joined ##slackware. [12:42] k [12:42] dive, Dominian had joked saying "you know almost every line here could end in "in bed"" [12:42] dive, so there it all began [12:42] right [12:43] just some random jockularity :) [12:43] in bed ... [12:43] hahha [12:43] so what we are looking for is inbed.pl to postfix 'in bed' to all our chat [12:44] and confuse the hell out of ppl [12:44] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:44] I just did /alias ib say [ in bed ] in irssi [12:44] oh wow neat [12:44] lol [12:44] hehehe [12:44] Jeanne-Kamikaze (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] Action: Old_Fogie looks at xchat for this greatness [12:44] ananke: unattended looks very interesting [12:44] Old_Fogie, you kidding? [12:45] look at irssi [12:45] actually let me fix my alias [12:45] slac0r (i=812ad0a7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b3038a28b938814) joined ##slackware. [12:45] it supports perl... [12:45] it's far superior [12:45] irssi <3 [12:45] Jeanne-Kamikaze (n=Jeanne-K@225.Red-212-170-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] http://i42.tinypic.com/23mllz8.png [12:45] dive, well I do use irssi, but my ding a ling thing here aint working so notify if message [12:45] my irssi window lol [12:45] aint working [12:45] anyone with software raid on sata_sil based controllers? [12:45] ewwww [12:46] Old_Fogie, makes a sound when someone says your name? not working? [12:46] lol, i love the front page [12:46] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.16) joined ##slackware. [12:46] dive, correct. pcspkr is loaded, maybe somethings up w/my gnome? dunno. [12:46] No Windows servers required; use your Unix servers instead. No Unix servers required; use your Windows servers after all. [12:46] beep_beep.pl? [12:46] dive, so since I'm working a few pc's a.t.m got the xchat going. [12:47] Old_Fogie: check this out [12:47] and change it so it 'aplays' a soundfile [12:47] you [ in bed ] [12:47] argh! [12:47] hang on [12:47] alias is hosed [12:47] usbboot is just *awesome* it almst makes me want to upgradeall the pc's [12:47] lol [12:47] fail [in bed] [12:47] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] slac0r : i am [12:48] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-4-99-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] testing... [ in bed ] [12:48] raid1 across two drives, on sil3112 [12:48] /alias ib /say $0 [ in bed ] [12:48] ananke: are you familiar/experienced the issue of soft/hard lockups [12:48] [x] in bed [12:48] haha mine works [12:48] settings..advanced...text events [12:49] slac0r : haven't had those. however, long time ago i had issues with some larger drives. upgrading firmware has fixed it [12:49] are you familiar/experienced the issue of soft/hard lockups <--- does that "read" right to the rest of you ? :D Sounds like an intro to a woman in prison film. [12:49] [x] in bed [12:49] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [12:49] fail =p [12:50] ananke: i have three controllers, i guess ill have to upg bios on all to see if it helps, but from what i googled it seems like its an ongoing issue [12:50] Old_Fogie: got it [12:50] you know.. slackware is a great distro [ in bed ] [12:50] :D [12:50] nice [12:51] Today is Pungenday, the 8th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 [12:51] BP{k}: thanks again for pointing me to linode. I don't know how I survived without it. :) [ in bed ] [12:51] Frink! [12:51] ananke: which card do u have [12:51] hahah chopp :) [12:51] slac0r : i told you the chipset already [12:51] dont know if it makes diff since u r using the same module [12:51] chopp: :) [12:51] i see [12:51] \o/ [12:52] slac0r : 00:09.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01) [12:52] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [12:52] damn, no slackbuild for unattended [12:52] Leave it to the xine dev's to put out the latest xine version right, and if you build it without your own ffmpeg on board, and use theirs...it fails. But if you have ffmpeg it works. [12:52] Old_Fogie: You use irssi? [12:52] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:52] what drives (size) did u slap on it since u have issues with contrl recognizing hds [12:53] Old_Fogie: /alias ib say $0- [ in bed ] [12:53] Dominian, I go both ways on that [x] in bed [12:53] i think 750+ were troublesome [12:53] Dominian, xchat and irrssi lol [12:53] heh [12:53] lol [12:53] slac0r : i had issues with 400GB drives, and only under linux. upgrading the firmware fixed it [12:54] Dominian, thanks I'll add that in a lil bit [12:54] foureyes789 (n=Theron@97-113-178-63.tukw.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] w00t [12:57] Old_Fogie, add it [ in bed ] [12:57] hahahahaha [12:58] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Solid (n=chatzill@78.13.137.146) joined ##slackware. [12:59] At the sake of sounding like a complete noob here, asus aspire one, in 12.2 actually will boot 800x600 (couldnt in 12.1) but what's interesting is it has two penguins. I'd have thought the aspire one only got 1 penguin at boot. [12:59] rob0: how have you been ? [12:59] hello i would like to remount / on another partition /dev/hda2 how to do? [12:59] rob0, :) [13:00] hello Old_Fogie [13:00] or should I say [13:00] Action: Old_Fogie smiles at rob0 [x] in bed [13:00] hahaha [13:00] Hello, Is there a way to hide/mask your ip address on a shell when someone issues a 'who' or 'w' command? [13:00] hello dtanner :) [13:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:02] RaNdY: nope [13:02] RaNdY: There are security addons that can do that.. liek SELinux or grsecurity [13:02] but nothing by default that I know of [13:02] foureyes789 (n=Theron@97-113-178-63.tukw.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:02] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:02] rworkman, alienBOB and all others interested, acer aspire one in 12.2 has working onboard nic :D It didn't in 12.1. [13:02] there maybe some permissions you can tweak to not allow regular users to see output of other logged on users [13:02] A kernel patch? [13:02] foureyes789 (n=Theron@97-113-178-63.tukw.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Action: Old_Fogie lays big wet kiss on 12.2 [13:03] Noted, Thanks Dominian! [13:03] Old_Fogie: creepy [13:03] I'm so happy man! 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[13:07] Solid (n=chatzill@78.13.137.146) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121300]" [13:07] insmod e1000e [13:07] i downloaded drivers from intel's site [13:07] and what was the error of modprobe? [13:07] adn those drivers are for your running kernel? [13:08] but seems that e1000e driver which comes with 2.6.27 also works [13:08] ananke: do you have any desktop techs that can get on irc? lol [13:08] vdv, no e1000e in your kernel? [13:08] no, dive [13:08] liar [13:08] there's one [13:08] but it's not working for my card [13:08] how many do you want? [13:08] anyone running wine on 12.0 ? If so which version wine did you succeed in building ? [13:08] well then it's he wring driver [13:08] modprobe e1000e doesn't give any error [13:09] s/wring/wrong/ [13:09] vdv: that's a good thing :> [13:09] why are you saying it doesnt work then? [13:09] and what does ifconfig -a show after modprobe? [13:09] only lo [13:10] or dmesg after modprobe? [13:10] vdv: show lspci for the card [13:10] no new messages in dmesg [13:10] that's not what I asked :) [13:10] lspci -vv : Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [13:11] i must to update kernel, 2.6.24.5 is too old [13:12] which version slack? [13:12] 12.1 [13:12] vdv: with 2.6.24.x, the module you want is probably just e1000 [13:12] rmmod e1000e; modprobe e1000 [13:13] no effect [13:13] tried [13:13] well the e on the end = pcie [13:13] any errors with e1000? [13:14] no [13:14] e1000e only started handling it since 2.6.26.x or so [13:14] you might need to look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [13:15] could add it manually [13:15] hmmm, "mtrr: no more MTRRs available" ? [13:15] fail [13:15] but has dri working..odd. [13:15] i'll add intel's e1000e to modprobe.conf [13:16] vdv: why ? [13:16] if e1000e isn't bringing up the device, that's useless [13:17] e1000e from the 2.6.24.5 isn't [13:17] but those dowloaded from intel's site work [13:17] DBAmethyst (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] they bring up eth0? [13:17] yes [13:18] then what was the problem again? [13:18] actually, there's no problem now; but i feel unconfortable with old kernel :) [13:19] upgrade to 12.1 :) [13:19] 12.2 [13:19] 12.2 [13:19] duh [13:20] but it's less probable [13:20] probably find the in tree module works [13:20] most likely i'll just update kernel [13:20] Why download a driver for something that's supported in the kernel? [13:21] exactly :) [13:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:21] dtanner: not bad [13:21] but unfortunately 2.6.24.5 doesn't support my nic [13:21] huh [13:22] slac0r (i=812ad0a7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b3038a28b938814) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [13:22] how about 27.7 ? [13:22] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] thrice`, you still removing those usb mods to hibernate? [13:23] dive: nope; it got fixed mid 2.6.27-ish [13:23] ah ok [13:23] :) [13:23] i found another fix [13:23] rob0: certainly, but tomorrow [13:23] anyway [13:23] echo shitdown > /sys/power/disk [13:23] lol [13:23] lol shitdown doh [13:23] interesting typo ;) [13:23] :) [13:23] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [13:23] then do the hibernate cmd [13:23] I suggest you redirect to /sys/toilet [13:24] yeah it should be shitdown releally [13:24] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:24] generic fixall cmd [13:24] BTW I installpkg'ed the 12.2 kernel and modules on an older Slackware, 10.0 I think it was. Works fine. [13:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] (I did that because the new gigabit NIC wasn't supported in the old kernel.) [13:24] :) [13:26] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-126085fd38d61a0c) joined ##slackware. [13:26] now it's xorg turn :) [13:27] bet, that running X for the first time will fail :) [13:29] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:29] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062160217.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [13:30] renew01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] lol [13:31] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] X -configure works almost 100% of the time here [13:33] again not in my case [13:33] video card is ati HD 3650 [13:33] doh [13:34] nvidia ftw [13:34] use the radeonhd driver? [13:34] already downloading [13:35] Necos: you mean proprietary driver? [13:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] no [13:35] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [13:35] i mean the xorg-based radeonhd driver =p [13:36] http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd [13:37] xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.0.tar.gz [13:37] is it too old? [13:38] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] get the 1.2.4 if you can [13:39] that's the last stable version in git? [13:39] but be careful, unless you're using xorg-server 1.5 [13:40] how to check X version? [13:40] anyone running wine on 12.0? If so, which version wine did you succeed in building? [13:40] yeah vdv... next one will be 1.2.5 (think it'll be out at the end of the month) [13:40] X -version [13:41] dtanner, check out alienbob's site. he has builds that do 11/12/12.2/12.2 [13:41] dtanner, he keeps pretty current on that app [13:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-302a8d6723f9e29e) left irc: [13:41] dtanner, and buildscripts their too [13:41] thanks Old_Fogie [13:41] :) [13:41] 1.4.0.90 in 12.1 [13:41] PokerSTars.net awaits me. [13:42] vdv: thanks also [13:42] why should i be carefull with 1.4? [13:43] n/m thought you were talking to me vdv [13:43] Old_Fogie: I am in the process of building 1.1.8 on 12.0, we will see how that goes first. [13:44] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] dtanner, the real pain on wine (for me) is getting it to actually run things :( [13:44] I gave up on it [x] in bed [13:44] lol [ in bed ] [13:45] :D [13:45] i have had pretty goodo luck getting aps to run, ones thst i wanted to run.. "just worked" [13:45] like PokerStars.net =) [13:45] I've been playing the shishenso a lot lately, that's a 'doozy' [13:46] i will not even try to correct those typos, geesh. I have not been on any computers for almost a year until a few days ago, pretty rusty here. [13:47] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-203236.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still the whole [13:47] dtanner, well at least you have a good excuse for type-o's then :) [13:47] I blame it on the libsexy/spell checker in x-chat having too thin a red line. [13:48] :) [13:48] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] Old_Fogie: I write together what doesn't work and file bugs (for wine). So far, 3 opened, 2 fixed [13:48] pprkut, yeah but your smart in this stuff :) [13:48] pprkut, oh that reminds me... [13:49] Old_Fogie: meh, everyone could do that [13:50] pprkut, you know the xine/ffmpeg email I sent you I forgot to reply to your reply. I sent you that basically since, well, I don't know where/which/ to place that info. I mentioned it to rworkman and he said that maybe a precautionary note might be good in the ffmpeg readme as a possible mattter. [13:50] Old_Fogie: let me look up that mail.... [13:51] pprkut, yeah I'd really only see that issue arising for let's say, people that need to rebuild it for gnome-vfs support (so it'd be 3rd party gnome users for Slack I suppose) [13:51] pprkut, maybe if it's no good there in the readme, then maybe on the wiki? not sure. [13:51] or, people should convert to kde and call it good :> [13:52] wtf? audacious can't be controlled from a term? [13:52] pprkut, but now looking at the xine changelog, well this may / might be moot. I'm still testing the builds on latest xine that was issued this week. [13:52] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] thrice`, blasphemy :) (note /me loves many kde apps tho :) [13:52] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] nille_ (i=1000@c-ee63e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:54] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.62.170) joined ##slackware. [13:54] Old_Fogie: alright, I note it down and think about it on the next update. As of now: may be added to the README [13:54] hi [13:54] pprkut, ok [13:55] is xorg 1.4 later that xorg 7.0? [13:55] pprkut, I tell ya that cachelines for xorg.conf; really made x snappier. Only app I have broken on 12.2 now is gmusicbrowser (on the intel pc) but I can live with that. [13:55] pprkut, it's quite noticeable the *flash* of apps [13:55] as they launch open. [13:56] with cachelines set? [13:56] vdv: xorg-SERVER 1.4.x is a component that makes up xorg (meta) 7.3 [13:56] pprkut, yes [13:56] pprkut, dont know why, but it's extremely noticeable. [13:56] thrice`: ok [13:57] Old_Fogie: you are overdue for a PC upgrade :> [13:57] thrice`, soo true [13:57] that's so retarded :( [13:57] thrice`, I've yet to try compiling on the asus aspire on tho, heh :) [13:58] Old_Fogie: as I said yesterday, I don't have an Intel card. Otherwise I would test myself ;) [13:58] audtool requires dbus to acquire a window name, so i can't control it over ssh :( [13:58] pprkut, no problem, but again thanks, got the ogg video's playing and X is snappier, so I'm happy :) [13:58] :) [14:01] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:01] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] asus aspire? is that like the AMD core 2 duo? [14:02] :) [14:02] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-132.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] tank-man, yup a true quantum computer :) [14:03] Old_Fogie: its's asus eeepc or acer aspire. Decide! :P [14:03] pprkut, heh, acer aspire one [14:04] Only thing I've yet to test, is the small camera card slot doo-dad, and see if I can get the led to blink when it's using the ath driver/wifi [14:07] ugh... this is so wack [14:07] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.7.217) joined ##slackware. [14:08] slackware is better than debian [14:08] P4C0 (n=onetwo@200.124.22.34) joined ##slackware. [14:08] dios_mio, prove it [14:08] hello, does anyone knows of a good hex editor? [14:08] eh? you can use any text editor [14:09] Necos, as hex editor? I was planning to install hexedit [14:09] dont edit binaries.. they wont work [14:10] edit the source file and recompile [14:10] Editing binary files can be useful [14:10] P4C0, I know one but can't recall name [14:10] i was just about to ask what you need a hex editor for lol [14:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hex_editors [14:10] console hex editor [14:10] dios_mio, it's not a binary, it's a wbxml file [14:10] I use bvi for instance, a vi for binary editing [14:10] thanks dtanner [14:11] anyone on slackware repos that i can use? [14:11] shevek (n=shevek@athedsl-203236.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:11] emacs... hmm [14:11] Nick change: shevek -> aperturefever [14:11] P4C0: slackbuilds.org [14:11] P4C0: "elvis -b" will work as a hex editor too [14:12] thanks alienBOB [14:13] vi/vim, emacs, etc can all do some hexediting so far as i know (which is not a lot, so take with a grain of salt) [14:13] P4C0, shed [14:13] i don't hexedit on a daily basis lol [14:13] vim can do binary editing but it is quite unfriendly compared to elvis which has a split/screen [14:14] ah, that's far more useful [14:14] I never though I'd hear somebody say that elvis is friendlier than vim. [14:14] emacs is ok [14:15] Action: edman007 <3 emacs [14:16] I hate emacs [14:16] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-132.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. 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[14:21] heh [14:21] Action: rk4n3 stabs acidchild [14:21] :) [14:22] i dont know if its dump .. but i sure feel numb [14:22] arguing over which editor is better is pretty retaded, since the whole reason of having open source software is having a choice to use what you want to use =p [14:22] dump? [14:22] P4C0, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21862 [14:22] dumb [14:22] you fail aperturefever [14:22] MuddyB0x_ (n=andre@200-160-126-152.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:22] i love u 2 [14:22] MuddyB0x_ (n=andre@200-160-126-152.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [14:22] fail fail fail [14:23] yeah baby thats groovy [14:23] fails [ in mine bed ] [14:23] Action: acidchild is unloveable. [14:23] =] [14:23] Necos: I disagree ... debate and discovery go hand in hand, and relativism isn't absolute [14:23] NetBSD netbsd.7a69.co.uk 4.0 NetBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Dec 16 00:20:10 PST 2007 builds@wb34:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-4-0-RELEASE/i386/200712160005Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-4-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 [14:24] xD! [14:24] ... but yeah, beating a dead horse does get to feel pointless [14:24] P4C0 (n=onetwo@200.124.22.34) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] emacs? A dead horse? Good description. [14:25] relativism is pretty childish at times, however [14:25] P4C0 (n=onetwo@200.124.22.34) joined ##slackware. [14:25] indeed [14:25] MuddyB0x_ (n=andre@200-160-126-152.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:25] MuddyB0x_ (n=andre@200-160-126-152.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [14:25] imho few things are relative, and those which are relative are usually unimportant [14:25] P4C0, if you find a better hex ed than shed let me know too please :) [14:26] Patzy_ (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] meh, stop hatin on emacs =p [14:26] Patzy_ (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] TwinReverb: seems we are like-minded :) [14:26] Patzy_ (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] dive, i'm trying to use emacs but it seems that i can only edit, and not create one from 0, i will try with shed, thanks [14:27] rk4n3: i'm sorry =( [14:27] haha [14:27] can anyone name something that is relative that matters? :) [14:28] TwinReverb: is your nick a reference to the Fender twin-reverb guitar amp ? [14:28] Action: Old_Fogie hums 'mohave' [14:29] yes [14:29] sweet - I had a buddy years ago that had one - really warm and distinctive sound [14:29] thanks. i'm warm and distinctive :) [14:30] haha :) these days I play a Mesa-Boogie triple rectifier [14:30] s/play/play through a/ [14:30] ... I *play* a Les Paul :) [14:31] dive, can I greate a new file with shed? [14:31] renew01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:31] no I just tried that :/ [14:31] why dont u use xxd P4C0 ? [14:32] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] you will have to echo x > somefile; shed somefile [14:32] rk4n3, the trouble with the guitar scene some times is that you want to be unique but the old ways of doing things just work (tm) [14:32] use any editor u want and convert from ascii to bin [14:32] TwinReverb: roger that [14:33] argg this should be a simple task!!! whyy it's so complicated! [14:34] i have this: 02 AB 52 ... 45 and I want it on binary! [14:34] xxd :P [14:34] [MA]Amine_ (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:34] SlackLnx (n=Lee@bl7-151-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] ummm, if you don't know how to convert that to binary, that's your problem [14:35] i find hard to beleave the hexeditors can't manage this... it's not that difficult... i enter 02 it put's '0x02' on that byte! :@ [14:36] use an etch-a-sketch =p [14:36] echo 02 | hexdump [14:37] Zordrak: You still around ? [14:37] rk4n3, i want 0x02 on the file not "30 32" [14:37] aperturefever, i'll try xxd [14:38] yeah, xxd or some sort of python or perl script [14:38] then pad it with 0s [14:39] Zordrak: just wanted to thank you for the link to WIn7, that really rocks ! [14:39] Zordrak: im installing it on all my computers now !!!! [14:40] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:40] heh, just kiddin... [14:40] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:41] P4C0, echo x > testfile && shed testfile and edit the byte to 02 [14:41] lol [14:41] simple [14:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:41] groovy [14:42] Patzy_ (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:42] dive, only that the byte is actually a string of 10 bytes [14:43] hmm [14:43] i'm already writing a small c program for this [14:44] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] easy, takes the 2 chars at a time from the argument and write them to file... so ./mystuff 4849 will result in HI [14:44] perl -e 'print unpack('B','0x02');' ? [14:45] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:45] i know almost nothing of perl :( [14:45] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] 1-liners ftw [14:46] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [14:46] indeed 1-liners kick buttocks [14:46] P4C0: you can edit the file in vim, do ":%!xxd", go to the byte you want to set to 02 and edit it to 02, then do ":%!xxd -r" - that will put your binary 2 into the byte in your file [14:47] rk4n3, i already code it in c, thanks [14:47] lol [14:48] xaviertoor_ (n=xavierto@189-015-65-008.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [14:49] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-153-238-218.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] P4C0, you know in advance how many bytes you want in the file? [14:49] if it's something small like 10 bytes: echo -n xxxxxxxxxx > testfile [14:50] then edit [14:50] installed radeonhd [14:50] he already wrote it in C, so he doesn't need our help :) [14:50] P4C0: you wrote a C program to write one byte somewhere into a file ? if you wanted to go that route, you could have just used dd [14:50] now: what's the name of the driver? what i should put in xorg.conf? [14:51] radeonhd lol [14:51] doesn't work :( [14:51] [ in mine bed ] [14:51] hahahaha [14:51] dive, yes, but it can vary from 10 to 15 i think, anyways i got them from logs, so i just pass it as arguments to my program and it dumps them to file [14:51] sex with video cards - the latest rage in techno-sex ? [14:51] k [14:52] rk4n3, it writes multiple bytes ;) [14:52] P4C0: like I said, you could have used dd for that [14:53] rk4n3, didn't know [14:54] P4C0: 'sokay ... there's lots of ways to do the same thing - depends on your situation and preferences, I guess [14:54] its not bad taking the hard route sometimes [14:54] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: No route to host [14:54] so it takes what from the log? something written in the log? or some attribute of the log itself like size? [14:55] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:55] Action: dive is thinking about dd, cat and sed [14:57] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.162.203) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:14] where' [15:15] xchat, ff, kanagram. the little icon in the titlebar has an 'o' next to it [15:15] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:15] i suppose that's part of the window decoration... [15:15] screenshot? [15:15] arktvrvs: can you upload a screenshot somewhere? [15:15] sure 1 moment [15:15] evo_ (n=evo@wrzb-5f74f0c2.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [15:15] override (n=override@76.192.219.110) joined ##slackware. [15:15] i guess it's a theme thing [15:16] some window decorations from kde and gtk put that kind of button in the titlebar [15:16] is it a button? [15:16] maybe it's the "stick" button, or however it's called [15:16] Pushing it will put your app's window in all desktops [15:17] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:17] ahh [15:17] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f74d363.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:17] it does somewhat look like a button now that you mention it [15:18] arktvrvs, that is almost certainly the stick button [15:19] Anyone know of a good fractal algro processing program? [15:21] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.140.54) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Hi guys [15:26] Anyone with the "nVidia Corporation NV6 (Vanta/Vanta LT)" graphics card? [15:28] asarch: what's your problem? [15:28] I try with the "nv" module but I only get the errno 10024 [15:28] I cannot use the graphics mode [15:29] what gives you that error? [15:29] startx [15:29] Is it safe to use those packages: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=nvidia&sv=12.2 [15:29] Aren't those cards supported by a different, older driver? [15:30] Really? [15:30] yes it is [15:30] Oh, crap :-( [15:30] I meant..those packages are safe [15:31] as they arent packages [15:31] they are slackbuilds [15:32] Oh [15:32] has anyone been able to get slackware to run with dual monitors? [15:32] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] holdmypocket: all the time [15:33] alisonken1: what was involved to get it working? [15:33] 2 calfs and some chicken blood [15:33] i can't get that stuff into the office here at work [15:33] since I had dual (separate) video cards, it automagically worked after running the xorg initial config setup [15:34] sweet [15:34] Old_Fogie: nope - requires goat sacrifice [15:34] i'll try that before i make anymore inquiries [15:34] virgins help too [15:34] alisonken1, careful with the word "goat" here [15:34] :) [15:34] im tired of having a linux box seperate from my xp workstation [15:34] Old_Fogie: I know - straterra is in the house [15:34] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] hahah [15:35] straterra: afternoon :) [15:35] Me holdmypocket [15:35] alisonken1: when you say it works in dual monitors, does it clone your desktop onto two monitors, or expand it across two monitors? [15:35] I can use dual monitor with Slackware [15:36] does your desktop span across both monitors? [15:36] josemanuel (n=josemanu@237.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:36] neither - I like separate setups, so it just gave me 2 separate windows with a common keyboard/mouse. don't like the xinerama setup with the stuff I do [15:36] alisonken1, I don't think I'd like that either [x] in bed [15:36] alisonken1: how do you control what goes where? [15:36] Old_Fogie: it's [in bed] not [x] in bed :) [15:36] holdmypocket, look at the picture at the end of this entry: http://www.mononeurona.org/users/entry/asarch/1665 [15:37] twolf: start the program in the monitor you want it to run in [15:37] alisonken1, i use [x] in bed as that's for the check box for 'applicable' :) [15:37] I'm special :) [15:37] sweet [15:37] the only funky part is autostart stuff always appears on monitor 0 [15:37] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-203236.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still the whole [15:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-130.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:37] hmm [15:37] Old_Fogie: :) [15:38] niice [15:38] All you have to do is to enable the XRandR extension [15:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-130.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] thanks everyone, will have a look into it [15:40] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-129.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:41] All you need is in the Wikipedia's entry about XRandR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xrandr [15:42] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [15:42] alisonken1: hello [15:42] straterra: we were just talking about you again :) [15:43] hawt [15:43] When? [15:43] Oh, I see [15:43] Baaahhhh [15:43] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-68-95-72-150.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:44] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:46] xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.3 from 12.2 works great in my 12.1 :) [15:47] Again..Go upstream for support. We don't know much about that app [15:47] Sloloem (i=8115e9bc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-208491b172bb27a0) joined ##slackware. [15:47] good bye [15:47] maxote (n=mevoypro@84.79.67.254) left ##slackware. [15:48] bye [15:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:51] mlangdn (n=michael@host-209-214-174-81.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] hello [15:52] anyone using a bluetooth device with slackwarE? [15:53] slackware* [15:54] yes. [15:54] straterra, what device and how long was the setup? [15:54] i have a ms bluetooth receiver and an apple bluetooth keyboard i want to setup [15:54] how long? [15:54] in time [15:54] the bluetooth dongle is about..2 inches long [15:55] how long did it take to get everything working [15:55] my dongle's bigger! [15:55] my dongle is about 1" [15:55] (in bed) [15:55] :-P [15:55] I'll leave the dongles out of this [ in bed ] [15:56] the truth doesn't need to be defended [15:56] so why are you guys talking about it? :P [15:57] is bluetooth support built into the stock slackware kernel? [15:57] Penis size matters [15:57] straterra, how does it matter? [15:57] Fenix-Dark, check the config [15:57] that's [not] what she said [15:57] Nick change: mlangdn -> mlangdn_ [15:57] TwinReverb, but that would be too easy [15:57] Err, because it does [15:57] Fenix-Dark, it's on most mirror sites [15:57] straterra, uh, i said how, not "does" [15:58] as Robin Williams said (in his black mama voice) "You can't make a cake with a toothpick" [15:58] rofl [15:58] analogy fail [15:58] Because..larger ones tend to stimulate more nerves [15:58] and also tend to stimulate nerves more [15:58] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [15:58] vdv (i=1000@pop-31-189.azeronline.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:59] but women are not like an AND gate [15:59] err, what? [15:59] you don't automatically make a woman happy with more (or less) inches [15:59] women aren't a light switch [16:00] definitely NOT a microwave oven, either [16:00] more like a NAND gate? =P [16:00] Actually..I'd say women ARE more like a light switch [16:00] XOR? [16:00] i think the last person who tried to map their romance logic out in those terms went insane [16:00] hahaha. [16:00] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:00] The female body is designed to be pretty easily arroused/stimulated [16:01] its all in the head :-) [16:01] did you speak with its designer? [16:01] well, I would say the femail body is designed to easily arouse/stimulate the male body, but that's just my experience [16:01] TwinReverb: haha :-P [16:01] the last person who tried to map female logic went insane... [16:01] s/femail/female/ [16:01] TwinReverb: don't have to [16:01] and no, redbook, cosmo, and such are not sources of fact [16:01] Not saying they are [16:02] But regardless..size does matter [16:02] no it doesn't :-) [16:02] well you can't say what it was designed for in an official capacity without consulting its designer, blueprints, documentation, or by having been involved in its design [16:02] too big hurts..too small may not stimulate [16:02] straterra: thats incorrect too [16:02] =) [16:02] No its not [16:02] yes it is. [16:02] "Hurts so good ......" [16:02] In what regard? [16:03] in regards, if a woman is turned on enough she can take pretty much any sized penis. [16:03] wrong [16:03] i dont care how turned on a woman is..slam something hard in to her cervix [16:03] it will hurt [16:03] mlangdn_ (n=michael@host-209-214-174-81.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] you dont slam *sigh* [16:04] acidchild, not necessarily true. there is anatomy to consider. if she's small and you're big, it's going to hurt someone [16:04] Oh..I must be the only one who has any semblance of rough sex [16:04] unless you pay attention [16:04] (16:05) < TwinReverb> unless you pay attention <-- [16:04] key [16:04] straterra: LOL [16:04] Sloloem (i=8115e9bc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-208491b172bb27a0) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [16:04] i just dont care to quote aspects of my sex life on IRC =) [16:04] straterra: with a female of the homo sapien species? [16:05] Size DOES matter [16:05] rough can be fun but only when she's in the mood, otherwise their reaction at that point is determined by mood, personality, etc, the millions of complex woman factors that make logic-mapping impossible [16:05] a human woman take take all of a 4 foot penis [16:05] yes, but we're used to "size DOES matter" meaning "the more inches the better", etc, as purported by various retards who run companies [16:05] cant^ [16:05] and a 1/4 inch penis isn't going to do much either [16:05] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] straterra: indeed, i didn't realise we where talking about 'freaks' [16:06] freaks? [16:06] Action: TwinReverb is surprised that people don't find it at least suspicious that companies say things like that when they're the ones who would profit off of what they are saying [16:06] Action: acidchild remembers one chick rofl, i'd have problem sticking a pen in there. [16:06] for cp -l, what does "link instead of copy" mean? [16:06] not a symbolic link? [16:06] well i think they once said that minimum is 2" to please the average human woman [16:06] So..people with small or large penises are freaks? [16:06] redtricycle, it means link [16:06] straterra: 4 feet penis? [16:06] yes [16:06] TwinReverb: its not length, its girth [16:06] i.e. these two files are linked now [16:07] so if I delete one of the files, both are gone [16:07] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:07] redtricycle, http://www.slackbook.org/html/book.html [16:07] so a hard link? [16:07] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] see the section on links [16:07] probably but i don't know. read the documentation [16:07] okay [16:07] with symlinks, if you delete it, the original does not disappear [16:07] straterra: some jerks get off just sucking a guy off [16:07] =) [16:07] so 0" penis required =) [16:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [16:07] if it's hard link, i don't think the original dies if you delete it, but i could be wrong, so read the documentation [16:08] straterra: some jerks? some girls*** [16:08] god damn! wtf is on my mind [16:08] heh [16:08] Action: acidchild parts [16:08] gay sex [16:08] lol [16:08] obviously [16:08] sometimes [16:08] anyone who would say that the bigger the @#$ the more you will please a woman, i.e. size = satisfaction, is either stupid, perverted, or ignorant [16:08] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] assuming we're speaking of above 2" [16:08] I would make the generalization that larger size usually brings more pleasure up to a certain size [16:09] medical research says the average Joe is 6" so the average man has plenty in size [16:09] i believe size does matter in one night stand situations. [16:09] not in long term emotional relationships [16:09] Sure it does [16:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:09] believe it or not..sex is important in a relationship [16:09] it's more than size though. women like to be romanced, treated good, etc, and those can go much farther than the physical with some of them. [16:09] like i said, girls can get off thinking about something. [16:09] straterra: of course it is ;) [16:09] Some girlscan [16:09] oh i'm a christian and i'll say without a doubt that sex is important in a marriage, so don't get me wrong [16:09] ...so [16:09] straterra: met a few actully [16:10] i'm having some trouble with hcitool seeing my bluetooth receiver [16:10] sex is fun and God intended us to have it with our spouses, so don't listen to the catholics :D [16:10] you work em good all night mentaly, then that moment they drop to their knees [16:10] TwinReverb: Infact..I'd go the other way. Women like to be treated poorly and just taken some times [16:10] acidchild: save time. use chloroform [16:10] straterra, yes but that's because women are variable in mood and emotion [16:10] straterra: some women, yes [16:10] HAHAHA [16:10] anticipitation is very important. [16:11] for whom? [16:11] pulling and making a girl 'cum' [16:11] i will say one thing: no one likes being used for long, so be good to your soul mate [16:11] but in sum, an old saying goes "treat a ho like a princess and a princess like a ho" sometimes works [16:11] alisonken1: yep :-P [16:11] and no i'm not going to hand my wife money. i never see it again! [16:11] TwinReverb: I disagree [16:12] TwinReverb: I can vouch for that :) [16:12] TwinReverb: -.- indeed [16:12] TwinReverb: and consumerable products add up [16:12] like cigs, food, etc [16:12] rofl [16:12] Get exposed to submission/domination..bondage..that lifestyle. [16:12] acidchild: consumerable? [16:12] well what i meant was i've even heard of brothers getting sick of the dormitory whore [16:12] case in point [16:12] straterra: been around a few while I was in the navy - not my style [16:12] eventually people get tired of what is free [16:13] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [16:13] Is your love for your wife not free? [16:13] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.140.54) left irc: Connection timed out [16:13] my love for my wife is unconditional, yes, at least as much as is humanly possible [16:13] love - yes. everything else is debatable [16:13] straterra: of course not, it has to be repayed with love. [16:13] but that's not the same as what i meant [16:13] if you eat chocolate every day you'll get sick of it quickly [16:13] You take in water every day [16:14] water is free and people don't like to drink it 24/7 [16:14] water != food/chocolate [16:14] that's where soda and juice came from :) [16:14] food != chocolate [16:14] haha [16:14] SlipperyChicken (n=andrew@CPE00219103d9c4-CM0018c0d910d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:14] I know - major food groups = coffee, chocolate, [16:14] TwinReverb: does your wife like icecream and/or chocolate? [16:15] water may be free. drinkable water, not so much... [16:15] there are times i have to learn not to romance the wife. it's hard not to because i think she's the sexiest woman on the planet, but oh well [16:15] yes my wife likes ice cream and chocolate but not all the time [16:15] THEY ALL DO!?! [16:15] i used to buy her chocolate every time i was in a store, and she had to ask me to stop because it got old for her [16:15] 'want anything from the store?' [16:15] 'icecream!' [16:16] TwinReverb: awe thats cute =O [16:16] but when i just changed my method (still showing her I love her, but now using other means) it worked [16:16] like one day i stopped at the side of the road, picked these beautiful wild flowers and brought them home for her. my son in fact saw me and now does the same thing in our yard [16:16] i always buy my girlfriend V8 when i'm at the store, i can't stand the stuff... but she likes it. [16:16] lol [16:16] thats like her chocolate.. i guess [16:17] haqe17 (n=Button_h@host86-139-43-132.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] women are complex. you gotta try to understand 'em even if it's not possible [16:17] tastes like ground up tinfoil and stuff [16:17] women are like a rubix cube that someone put the stickers on in a random pattern rather than starting with the solved version [16:17] HAHA [16:17] no i know what that tastes like, it's not the same [16:18] Action: TwinReverb has chewed on his tin foil hat before [16:18] like a metalic taste... [16:18] as fun as this is, time to do some more work [16:18] lol [16:18] that was a lot of backlog to read [16:18] alisonken1: same :-( [16:18] guess i could just start the download of pkgsrc WITHOUT using screen ;> [16:18] this is my chillax time [16:18] excuses excuses. [16:18] which will very quickly end and roll into "sleep 8h" mode [16:19] soo [16:19] now i did hcitool cc [16:19] and it outputs 'Can't create connection: Input/output error" [16:19] lol TwinReverb [16:20] mac address of keyboard? what? [16:20] yes [16:20] american women are just wtfbbqcomplex... in other societies, it's quite simple... have money lol [16:20] rofl [16:20] TwinReverb: imagin having a mac address for a ps2 keyboard [16:20] rofl [16:21] TwinReverb, bluetooth keyboard [16:21] oh [16:21] My woman is not complex [16:21] i know what she wants..and needs. [16:21] lol [16:21] Action: TwinReverb had visions of a parody of the Bologna song "my keyboard has a mac address ... it's 00:FF:00:FF:00 ..." [16:22] straterra is just a barbarian... nothin wrong with that ^_~ [16:22] haha [16:22] I am not [16:22] My woman just doesn't mind fuck me [16:22] And the primary reason women DO mindfuck men is because men let them [16:23] amen [16:23] which you should read as "i mindfucked her before she mindfucked me" ^_~ [16:24] nah, actually it's that some women are @#$ed in the mind and therefore it manifests itself in everything they do [16:24] Are there any packages (e.g. common shell scripts) that utilizes rsync for backing up? [16:24] straterra: with all due respect, women that aren't completely borked in the head are in short supply [16:24] redtricycle, want an example? http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/rsync.sh [16:24] glad you got one... ya damn barbarian ^_~ [16:24] redtricycle, want an example? http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/backup [16:24] Necos: then be picky [16:24] i am, that's why i'm still single [16:25] ok then [16:25] TwinReverb: you really should add a sanity check [16:25] nothing wrong with being picky, just be sure you know that it could result in you being single a very long time (especially in light of how neurotic the american population in general has become) [16:25] hrm [16:25] thrice`, to what? [16:25] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [16:25] la bishes are too stupid for my tastes [16:25] to rsync [16:25] TwinReverb: exactly [16:25] rsync.sh ? [16:25] if /home/robert/patches doesn't exist :> [16:25] so i did hcitool cc and it gives no output, so i assume it works [16:25] but hcitool con shows no connections [16:26] thrice`, the rsync.sh script resides in ~/patches [16:26] if ~/patches don't exist, neither does rsync.sh [16:26] however, i see your point. adjusting .... [16:26] TwinReverb: how is backup different from rsync.sh? [16:27] oh, you only get patches [16:27] from there [16:27] some guy from Amazon claims that Linux GnuPG can't handle large files ... does that sound familiar/true ? [16:27] Okay, does anybody have an example for rotating rsync scripts? [16:27] For daily and weekly [16:27] redtricycle, rotating what? [16:27] rk4n3: no, sounds like a load of BS. [16:27] rk4n3: no [16:27] TwinReverb: rotating backups [16:27] rk4n3: i've encrypted 100GB before. [16:27] redtricycle, hmm no, sorry, never done that before [16:27] acidchild | Necos : ... that's what I was thinking, too [16:28] tell him to suck a long dong [16:28] the fact that it does public key encryption means it deals with large integer spaces, i.e., implying that it can deal with large files as well [16:28] =O maybe he can tell us if size matters [16:28] rk4n3, FUD. in fact, read the slackware kernel config. it includes large file support (which is necessary for LVM and RAID iirc) [16:28] LOL [16:28] hahaha - I would if I didn't have to be "business professional" in this context :) [16:28] that's a straw man logic FAIL [16:29] you don't have to be a recognized authority to speak truth [16:29] especially when it's widely available knowledge on the internet that linux supports large files [16:29] um, I can't tell him to "suck a long dong" while remaining professional :) [16:29] rk4n3, learn how [16:29] The filesystem may NOT support large files [16:29] or the hardware [16:29] true [16:29] but it depends on what FS, etc [16:29] saying "linux" don't support it is absolutely incorrect anyways [16:29] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:30] more like "Linux can handle large files. can YOU?!" [16:30] here's his exact words: "It is known that some of the programs out there like the Linux GnuPG encryption program can't handle large files" [16:31] I wasn't aware GnuPG was kernel space [16:31] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:31] again, that's a logic fail [16:32] if you were encrypting a large file i would think that your limit would probably be FS or memory [16:32] i.e. i would think encrypting a large file (say 8GB file) would definitely thrash a system but again, apples and oranges, etc [16:33] ClaudioM_ (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] still troubled with the can't create connection: Input/output error upon trying to connect my keyboard with hcitool [16:33] any ideas? [16:33] Especially if it tries to load the whole file in to memory [16:33] well, conceivably there could be some bug in GnuPG that is vulnerable to conditions that occur when it processes large files, which is why I asked - in case someone had heard of such a bug [16:33] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:33] ... but I suspect FUD as many of you indicate [16:33] straterra, true but i bet there might be a way to encrypt in a pipe operation (/me reads man page) [16:34] I dont think gnupg loads the whole file in to memory [16:34] straterra: it can do :-/ [16:34] what can to? [16:34] straterra: that would be my guess too [16:34] load the whole thing.. [16:34] depends on how you use it. [16:34] I'm sure it CAN [16:34] assuming you have that much memory [16:34] I'm sure that isn't default behavior [16:35] Action: acidchild nods [16:35] in which case i'd like you to buy me a better laptop because apparently you must be RICH [16:35] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: "Leaving" [16:35] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [16:35] TwinReverb: 16GB of RAMZ0r :] [16:35] acidchild, you're rich! buy me a new laptop! :p [16:35] no [16:35] yes [16:35] i just got my gf a new dell laptop =/ [16:35] straterra, do you have an /etc/bluetooth/main.conf ? [16:36] acidchile: sudo buy me a new laptop [16:36] :) [16:36] acidchild, haha [16:36] acidchild, you realize you will never get that back, right? :D [16:36] No [16:36] TwinReverb: yes. [16:36] straterra, what does hcid -n output for you? [16:36] override (n=override@76.192.219.110) left irc: [16:36] TwinReverb: that what presents are. [16:36] TwinReverb: i got myself a sexeh new camera ;D [16:37] haha [16:37] and a holiday to the UK [16:37] =] [16:37] i need a new laptop. mine is old :( [16:37] i use a EEEPC 900 series :-/ [16:37] its fine for network testing etc [16:37] yeah i heard about that. how is the experience with slackware? [16:38] fine, but i run debian on it. [16:38] its really just traveling/network testing [16:38] distro fail :P [16:38] i'd never use debian for anything more than that. [16:38] i know =) [16:38] :D [16:38] crap... [16:38] TwinReverb: really excited to get my tickets booked for south korea. [16:38] thats gonna be a wicked holiday [16:39] :> [16:39] acidchild, i'm in south korea [16:39] i know :-) [16:39] uh when are you going to be here? [16:39] in south korea, you can beat your wife and then kick the police out when they get there for domestic abuse lol [16:39] Necos: shush. [16:39] have more respect please. [16:39] sounds like the place to be then [16:40] Necos, wtfu [16:40] er stfu [16:40] that's actually what my 2 south korean buddies told me... i was like "WTF?!" [16:40] TwinReverb: i'm not sure, going to NYC soon... then probly back to England for business. [16:40] and then i'll be off to Korea. [16:40] acidchild, /msg coming [16:40] will do =) [16:40] there's my contact info, contact me [16:40] brb [16:41] heh, and actually TwinReverb / acidchild i have more respect for women than you can possibly imagine, being raised by a single mother [16:41] that was more a shot at korean society than a shot at women... but whatevers [16:41] Necos: hence why i told you to stfu [16:41] because your oviously dont know much about Korean culture. [16:41] PROJECTSTFU [16:42] Koreans are one of the few cultures i have massive respect for [16:42] Necos, that's ok we'll still stab you, at least on irc [16:42] #include WTFRUSURE [16:42] acidchild: i grew up around a lot of south koreans... believe me, i know a lot about korean culture [16:42] dive, segfault, /usr/bin/joke/fail [16:42] ha [16:42] runs fine here [16:43] you must be missing libs ironic [16:43] again, i was quoting something that my korean buddies told me (as a joke) [16:43] SIGFAIL [16:43] don't you mean SIGSTFU? [16:44] pkill -STFU dive [16:44] xD [16:44] donk [16:44] HAHAHA [16:44] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-126085fd38d61a0c) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] anyway... [16:47] according to various friends of mine, i'm an honorary korean, filipino, taiwanese, and mexican ^_^ [16:49] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Ekc (n=iskar@90-154-129-206.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:50] it's wierd tho, because my korean buddies are always talkin crap about about chinese / japanese, and it goes in a circle [16:50] andrew_46 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147) joined ##slackware. [16:52] koreans piss me off [16:52] FriedBob_ (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lol [16:53] Pwning you in a game again? [16:53] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] josemanuel (n=josemanu@237.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:53] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] no, i used to live with one. they tend to do everything the opposite of what is logical [16:54] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Ekc (n=iskar@90-154-129-206.btc-net.bg) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:54] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [16:55] cr0w_ (i=1001@adsl-241-230-56.shv.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] cr0w_ (i=1001@adsl-241-230-56.shv.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [16:55] hahaha [16:56] on #mandriva someone said they had no luck fixing something and were going to move to suse [16:56] i was like "distro fail :P" [16:56] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:56] it has secert code that only compiles on suse [16:57] Nick change: juice_ -> juice [16:57] if it worked for them on suse, that's a valid reason [16:59] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-129.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] a cookie for someone who can tell me how to logout of a vt from a different vt [17:00] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [17:00] tried openvt -e -c 4 -f -v logout [17:00] and other variations on that [17:00] dive, you could kill the vt and restart it? [17:01] hmm test... [17:02] ananke, i figured you'd be the first to say that a problem with slackware isn't solved merely by switching to something different [17:02] yet how does that apply to mandriva/suse ? it's not slackware! :D [17:02] pkill :> [17:02] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.162.203) left irc: "Saindo" [17:02] guitarma14 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:02] TwinReverb : sure it is. slackware is no different [17:03] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [17:05] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.80.107) joined ##slackware. [17:06] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.62.170) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] well the only ttys showing in ps are agettys that havent been logged into yet [17:07] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:07] none of the logged in processes show [17:07] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:07] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [17:08] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@92.250.93.249) joined ##slackware. [17:08] ideally i'd like a program to lock all vts and screen when i suspend/hibernate [17:08] at the moment i am logging out manually all vts and detaching screen [17:08] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.80.107) left irc: Client Quit [17:08] with a screen password [17:08] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] a bit long winded [17:10] ah pts/N looks like it [17:10] andrew_46 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147) left ##slackware. [17:12] Action: TwinReverb doesn't use pty's [17:14] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:15] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [17:15] is there a way when using ls -s, to have it show the size of the contents of the directory rather than the size of the directory... which always something like 4k [17:16] du -sh! [17:16] straterra, for everything, not all things [17:16] uhm [17:16] that's pretty unclear [17:16] lol [17:16] come again? [17:16] lol [17:16] i mean for each thing, not all things [17:16] example, there are five things in this directory. four files and a subdir [17:17] show the size of the four files and the size of the subdir+contents [17:17] you can do something like...... for i in *; do du -sh "$i"; done but that seems like a pretty lame workaround and it doesn't cover .files [17:18] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@207-255-100-078-dhcp.unt.pa.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] for i in $(ls -A); do du -sh "$i"; done [17:19] but that's WAY slower than running du -sh * i just wish du would look at hidden files [17:19] Does GTK do all its drawing or is it just a compatibility layer? 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[17:33] foureyes779 (n=don@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [17:34] TwinReverb, you don't use screen then [17:35] I'm trying to get an intel3945 wireless to work on slackware 12.2 but i can't get it to work, i can see the device and i can scan for networks [17:35] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:35] <[]cipher> nille_, is it broadcom? [17:35] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:36] but i cant 'ifconfig wlan0 up' then i get this error in dmesg dmesg -c [17:36] iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [17:36] iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: restoring config space at offset 0x1 (was 0x100102, writing 0x100106) [17:36] Channel flood from nille_ -- kicking [17:36] iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch [17:36] iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled [17:36] nille_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:36] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:36] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:36] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:36] nille_ (i=1000@c-5261e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [17:36] i got kicked :p [17:36] nille_, don't flood then [17:36] yeah we noticed [17:36] lol [17:37] gnubien (n=e@121.252.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] <[]cipher> nille_, use http://rafb.net/paste/ [17:37] c0nflict (i=500@166-215.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:37] yes i know but it was only 4 lines [17:37] so your wireless looks likes it's being disabled by kill switch [17:37] <[]cipher> btw, nille_, is it broadcom? [17:37] no intel [17:38] <[]cipher> ohh, yep intel [17:38] look in /etc/modprobe.d/ [17:38] for any option that does the kill [17:38] nille_, or go for ndiswrapper [17:38] mind you, you can scan ok? [17:38] well ndiswrapper for intel? [17:38] dive, no, i didn't include PTY support (BSD) in the kernel [17:39] yes i can [17:39] <[]cipher> i'm using ndiswrapper for broadcom [17:39] <[]cipher> and it's work perfectly [17:39] well it looks like it's supported without all that ndiswrapper stuff [17:39] nille_, ndiswrapper works for everything [17:39] well browdcom i can understand but not an kernel supported intel [17:39] otherwise it wouldn't show anything [17:39] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:40] <[]cipher> but as i know, intel is been supported in wireless dirvers in linux [17:40] 3945 works out of the box in 12.2 [17:40] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] nille_, are you trying to connect with wpa_supplicant? [17:40] thrice it does for you? not for me [17:40] yes [17:40] does wlan0 show up ? [17:40] wpa-psk [17:40] yes i got wlan0 [17:41] ok, try turning off wpa on the router and just using a simple wep pass and see if you can connect then [17:41] well i can [17:41] if you can then it's a wpa problem [17:41] i can't turn of wpa it's from isp [17:42] like wrong pass phrase or something [17:42] what? [17:42] ifconfig wlan0 up [17:42] SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device [17:42] it's your router, can't you get into the admin page and turn it off? [17:42] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] no it's hard coded in specail firmware from isp in the router [17:42] jesus [17:42] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:43] anyway SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device <- sounds like its not wpa [17:43] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [17:43] that should be iwconfig [17:43] dive, that's the firmware files missing [17:43] try iwconfig [17:43] SlipperyChicken (n=andrew@CPE00219103d9c4-CM0018c0d910d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:44] <[]cipher> nille_, i don't think the isp push ppl to use certian encryption [17:44] well iwconfig wlan0 up won;t work actually [17:44] here's the paste been of dmesg [17:44] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] so nille_ did you install kernel firmware package? [17:45] i can call them and have it turned of tomorrow but then they won't turn on encryption again [17:45] <[]cipher> fcutter i guess [17:45] no [17:45] what package [17:45] well install it [17:46] <[]cipher> fwcutter* [17:46] which sw you running? [17:46] on 12.2 it's kernel-firmware-2.6.27.7-noarch-1 [17:46] i got the kernel-firmware package installed already [17:47] wlan0 is showing up already... [17:47] there's no need - it's working. just needs to be configured [17:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.16) left irc: "Bye Bye" [17:47] then i go back to wpa being configured wrong [17:47] sucituanbo (n=full@c-24-21-121-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] yes but why does it give the errors in dmesg?' [17:48] no idea but if you can scan then it's not being 'killed' [17:48] no wpa is the same i use know with an atheros pc-card [17:48] hmm [17:48] sucituanbo (n=full@c-24-21-121-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [17:48] same wpa_supplicant.conf? [17:48] so wpa config is correct [17:48] yes [17:49] this is an lenovo t60 [17:49] same rc.inet1.conf rc.wireless.conf? [17:49] you just swap cards over and it fails? [17:50] which module are you using? [17:50] why don't you try to run wpa_supplicant by itself with -ddd so you can see wtf is happening [17:50] and also which kernel? [17:50] well i rewrite the IFNAME[4]="wlan0" when i'm trying the other card [17:51] iwl3945 [17:51] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: "Slackware GNU/Linux - World domination is a click away!" [17:51] so same box same settings [17:51] some of those intel drivers were only fixed in 2.6.27.7 [17:51] huge-smp [17:52] have you tried an outside module? [17:52] wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [17:52] or wlan0 whatever [17:52] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@92.250.93.249) left irc: "Slackware GNU/Linux - World domination is a click away!" [17:52] no since it was in 12.1 as well i thought that it should be stable in 2.6.27 [17:52] make sure any instances of wpa_supplicant are killed first [17:53] well my T42 only worked with in-tree module in 12.2 [17:53] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:53] thats an intel ipw2200 module [17:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:54] and the T42 is much older than yours [17:54] yes [17:54] previous to 12.2 I had to build an external driver [17:54] this one are from 2007 [17:55] run that coomand that nullboy typed [17:55] wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [17:55] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:55] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [17:56] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@201.244.188.98) left irc: "leaving" [17:57] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:59] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [18:01] Blagoicho (n=envy@77.77.8.222) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-fb14125ef0ebc534) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Blagoicho (n=envy@77.77.8.222) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:07] nope [18:07] ? [18:07] did it print some errors? [18:08] tha command didn't work [18:08] it couldn't connect to ap [18:09] have you tried looking for an external driver module for that card? [18:09] thinkwiki might help [18:09] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] i looked at thinkwiki before a got here [18:10] what about an external driver module? [18:11] i will look for one [18:12] which kernel are you using? (version number) [18:13] http://intellinuxwireless.org/ [18:13] try there [18:13] 2.6.27.7-smp [18:14] well according to that page the in-tree driver should work :/ [18:15] http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net also look ehere [18:15] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-132.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] hmm no security updates yet? [18:16] kitche, there was one yesterday in mailing list [18:16] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-132.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] samba [18:16] should be on mirrors by now [18:17] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] thanks for your try dive and nullboy [18:18] i will try an git version and if i can't get it to work i will go for ndiswrapper [18:19] try those sourceforge projects too perhaps [18:19] if they only just fixe the ipw2200 i bet the iwl has problems... [18:20] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [18:20] ipw3945 is long dead [18:20] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] well mines even older and the in-tree module only just started working [18:22] lol [18:22] wheres that can0n guy? I got some dvd rip scripts for him to test... [18:22] if anyone wants to play with them: [18:22] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/video [18:23] and give some feedback suggestions etc [18:23] apart from 'your bash scripts suck, go back to BASIC!' [18:23] etc [18:23] dive: ah no openssl, bind, ntp updates yet then [18:23] <[]cipher> thanks dive [18:24] kitche, not that has come through the mailing list anyway [18:24] anyways the bind vulnerability deals with DNSSEC [18:24] []cipher, ? [18:24] <[]cipher> for the scripts :) [18:24] ah [18:25] nop [18:25] <[]cipher> handmade is't it :P [18:25] kitche: lol of all things..the secured dns [18:25] that's just comical [18:25] even though today i accidently did a rm * in my scripts dir :s [18:25] good job vim does backups... [18:25] nullboy: seems like a real easy fix I already patched my system bind just by changing one line :) [18:25] <[]cipher> is there anyway to recomver the lost data by rm? [18:26] ah [18:26] <[]cipher> recover* [18:26] well you can umount and there are tools to do it [18:26] <[]cipher> aha, such as? [18:26] but i had some on my ftp and some in ~/.vimbaks so I don't need to [18:27] []cipher, I don't know much about it but I've read it's possible so long as you don't write anything else on the disk afterwards [18:27] <[]cipher> yeah [18:27] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] hi [18:28] when I startx now I get ring end space 228 wanted 232 anybody have any ideas? [18:28] it worked yesterday and I changed nothing [18:28] Action: dive heads for a lie back on the couch [18:28] still having a good bit of trouble getting my bluetooth keyboard working, and to top if all off the ubuntu forums are down :( [18:28] so google isn't any help [18:29] Fenix-Dark: my mouse works pretty easily...just start bluetooth services and make sure all the BT modules are loaded then put the KB into discover/connect mode and run as root: hidd --search [18:30] nullboy, i connected my phone pretty easily [18:30] it should just connect as a bt hid device [18:30] nullboy, so i do that, hidd --search [18:30] it sees the keyboard, says connecting to device [18:30] waits a while [18:30] how is bluetooth for mice - pretty cool ? [18:30] then outputs various messages [18:30] "Can't get device information: Function not implemented" [18:30] or ...: Host is down [18:31] rk4n3: works great for me, i have an MS Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 [18:31] Action: rk4n3 might have to give that a try [18:31] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009115088.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:31] i went with blueototh mouse because i strictly use a laptop and i didn't want a dongle, my laptop has built in bluetooth [18:32] ok [18:32] the host is down message makes sense, the keyboard times out of discovery mode [18:32] the function not implemented doesnt make much sense [18:34] nullboy, suggestions? [18:34] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "leaving" [18:34] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:35] not really [18:35] my shit just works [18:35] my shit never works [18:35] Action: Fenix-Dark cries [18:36] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) joined ##slackware. [18:39] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.7.217) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:40] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) joined ##slackware. [18:42] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) left irc: Client Quit [18:42] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) joined ##slackware. [18:42] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] macondo (n=macondo@200.75.241.234) joined ##slackware. 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I am trying to share a printer on my slackware box via samba, and can't find anything about it in the slackbook [19:03] The printer works fine from CUPS, but my roomie has a windows laptop./ [19:03] souljas (n=tony@123.sub-70-221-132.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] mooglenorph, is it shared in your samba.conf? [19:04] They can see the server and it is in their samba workgroup, but the printer does not show up when we try to "add printer" in the crazy windows control thing. [19:04] hiptobecubic, yes, it is [19:04] emma_ (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [19:04] prodor (n=Uninajab@200.52.215.221) joined ##slackware. [19:05] have you tried entering the network path to the printer yourself instead of trying that wizard? [19:05] hiptobecubic, http://pastebin.ca/1303937 [19:05] nullboy, yes, and it did not work. [19:05] GsXs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:05] I used \\my.i.p.address\\printers [19:05] Sorry, \\my.i.p.address\printers [19:06] hmm [19:06] Doesn't it have to be browseable? [19:06] to .. be browsed? [19:06] i'm not sure. i'm just guessing honestly. [19:06] have you tried it? [19:07] Wow, okay. No, I haven't. Trying that now. [19:08] I also have printcap name = cups, elsewhere in that file [19:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-11491.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] who was asking earilier about changing firefox's print dialog or something along those lines? for a image printer [19:10] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [19:10] hangfive (n=h5n1@ip-81-210-143-183.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [19:11] maybe wrong channel forgot what channel it was [19:12] No, didn't work. [19:12] what? [19:13] evo_ (n=evo@wrzb-5f74f0c2.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:13] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Client Quit [19:13] mooglenorph: what didn't work? [19:13] P4C0 (n=onetwo@200.124.22.34) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [19:14] mooglenorph, the winXP box still can't see my samba printer, post "browseable = yes" and restarting samba [19:14] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Connection timed out [19:15] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:15] did you actually share a printer? [19:16] I'm pretty sure, yes. The relevent section of my smb.conf is linked above, at http://pastebin.ca/1303937 [19:16] that's not relevant, because there's no other printer share [19:16] so you didn't [19:16] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:17] [printers] is just for the drivers [19:17] well, [print$] is for the drivers [19:17] [printers] is for settings for all printers [19:18] [hplj] , etc... are the printer shares is you're not using cupsaddsmb [19:18] ohh, okay [19:18] excellent, thanks [19:20] our print server here runs printing for windows and macs via samba and netatalk, respectively (samba configurations for cups in mac os is a PITA) [19:20] help [19:20] die [19:20] i'm glad we understand each other :) [19:21] I am unsure how to do that, nothing except a [printers] section shows up in all the results I've been googling for. [19:21] because you haven't read the samba book, which is required reading [19:21] skibur (n=wii@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] hello [19:21] :) [19:22] GsXs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left ##slackware. [19:22] http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/CUPS-printing.html <--- read this before asking anymore questions [19:23] Necos, okay, thanks [19:23] and yes, it's a long document... see you tomorrow :) [19:23] I just finished installing Linux on my wii [19:23] :) [19:23] awesome! [19:23] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] skibur, how is it? [19:24] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] good, I'm on it right now [19:24] xwhiite [19:24] as long as you can still play games, all is good, right? [19:24] souljas (n=tony@123.sub-70-221-132.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:25] I was going to ask, Is there an arm version of Slackware? I'm interested in trying to install it on my Wii instead of Debian based. [19:25] not that i know of [19:25] yeah, I can still play games [19:25] hum... I saw some sights for it [19:25] but not sure if its up-to-date [19:25] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl5-98.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware :) [19:26] http://www.armedslack.org/ --> link, but not sure if thats what I want. [19:26] they need a better picture ot Pat [19:26] :) [19:27] Slackware needs an Arm version just like Debian [19:27] you can start a port now :) [19:27] how about a BSD port of Slackware? GNU/BSD/Slackware [19:28] hum... [19:28] i vote we leave slackware along [19:28] a bsd port of slack? [19:28] Action: Necos stabs Pig_Pen [19:28] does that even make sense? [19:28] it would be better than FreeBSD thats for sure [19:28] lol [19:28] Action: lotec throws napalm at Pig_Pen [19:29] i wanna try bsd again, since i have vmware [19:29] Necos: i would put a few hours a side that day [19:29] why? slack installed in like 15 minutes =p [19:30] bsd on a vm should be pretty simple [19:30] i am going to give FreeBSD-7.1 a spin this weekend, i want a day off to fiddle with it, i dont want to come home from work and start diddling with it [19:30] Necos: ok well enjoy then. [19:30] lol [19:30] i installed freebsd last weekend. it took a while to get x working right [19:31] how is NetBSD? anyone use it? [19:31] Slackware 12.2 to ARM Slackware 12,2, I need an Arm compiler? Does that make sense? [19:32] you need to take a look at what openwrt does first and then reconsider [19:32] it's not just a matter of 'oh recompile and zip zip YAY it works' [19:33] lol [19:33] pos si :P [19:33] it was warm today, mid 60's F [19:33] I can make it my Project for my Master's Project [19:33] Pig_Pen: ssh sdf-eu.org <-- try netbsd [19:34] i never use ssh, will it basically give me a remote terminal (commandline)? [19:34] dood. [19:35] your credibility has been degraded [19:35] never had a use for ssh [19:35] i just use Slackware as a desktop, i dont admin any servers either remotely or locally [19:35] :S [19:36] dude most of the power in slack is in a server. [19:36] Pig_Pen: it was in the high 70's here today. I should have got on the bike for a ride [19:36] []cipher (n=cipher@41.252.40.6) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] interedsting -> Broadcom Chooses ARM Cortex-R4 Processor For Next-Generation Blu-Ray Players [19:37] Slackware makes a great desktop too, i seen microsoft's game a looonng time ago and Win98 was the first & last & only piece of crap i used from microsoft, my first PC came with win98, and the internet was awesome except for that crappy OS and quickly found the virtues of Linux :D [19:38] i need to buy a copy of Vista damn it [19:38] nullboy why buy? [19:38] EWWW! [19:38] i need to be familiar with all MS operating systems [19:39] nullboy send me your addy i can get you a copy [19:39] when did Xcdroast get dropped from "extra/" ? hmm , what frontend do most favor for burning ( yes I can use cdrecord cmd line, but I am just wondering ) ? [19:39] lets see...an IT person using a pirated copy of any software...yeah ok [19:39] nullboy: snicker [19:39] dtanner: did you install kde? use k3b it is the best front end for burning on any Linux distro [19:39] lotec: send me your street addy and I'll send a surprise [19:40] 8923 long way drive, Seffner fl [19:40] honestly, how can someone call themself a legitimate professional if they use pirated software [19:40] hangfive (n=h5n1@ip-81-210-143-183.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] nullboy: point in fact. [19:40] that goes against the whole reason you have a job [19:40] Pig_Pen: i don't like kde or aps thst depend on the libs , just personal choie. [19:41] i would imagine vista is the same ol shit with a different paint job [19:41] dtanner: any app depends on libs :) [19:41] Pig_Pen: and about 15 million more lines of code [19:41] Pig_Pen: you haven't used it have you? [19:41] i'd rather use gtk based gui stuff [19:41] nope, i only seen a few screenshots of it [19:41] but trust me, k3b is a great program, better than any of the gtk ones [19:41] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [19:41] i *might* install kde libs, not just for a burner gui when I have gtk installed though [19:41] we have a Vista machine at work. Almost no one touches it [19:41] skibur (n=wii@adsl-66-143-247-246.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] too bad there is no super nice gtk based burning front end [19:42] higuita: i may try it then if it is all that [19:42] Pig_Pen: i have a need to know it well because i work with people who have it. when someone that you hire sits down in front of your system and blindly starts clicking around it's a bad sign [19:42] dtanner: so just cdrecord. That's what k3b is doing anyway [19:42] and nullboy i did not mean a hacked version. I have 2 copies of vista. one still in the box never opened. [19:42] lotec: retail? [19:42] or OEM? [19:42] retail got them from office depot. had to have them for work. [19:42] do they each have their own unused keys still? [19:42] since you use PCs in your profession i can understand the need to know vista nullboy [19:42] briareus: yeah , i do , but other people in the house are using slack now , and I want to make it easy for my kids and gf to use. don;t want to scare them away now that they are all using linux [19:43] =) [19:43] they are seperate versions. so i would guess inside the unopend box there is a cd key [19:43] nullboy: dont worry, all people blindly starts clicking around on vista... that thing is DUMB like a rock and slow like a turtle [19:43] lotec: which versions? i'm looking for Business or Ultimate [19:43] GsX1 (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:43] one i have is home. i used the Ultimate version i got [19:43] dtanner: yeah, well in that situation, I'd recommend k3b too, and I say that as someone who doesn't run kde. in fact k3b is the only K that I use [19:43] i'm about to just pay someone off CL 100bucks for ultimate [19:43] dtanner: i am not a great fan of KDE, but i did get my family weened off of windows completely thanks to a decent kde desktop [19:44] briareus: i guess i will install the kde libs and try it [19:44] GsX1 (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [19:44] in all honesty. vista was not to bad to install. the install time has droped alot. took i would say 15 min to get it up and going [19:44] you will need at least qt, kdelibs & kdebase [19:44] dtanner: it is nice for its project arrangements, iso burn ease, and the drag n drop [19:44] lotec: it uses a different method now, image based install [19:45] nullboy: yep [19:45] briareus: hmmm , ok , but i can not imagine not finding a decent one for gtk also... [19:45] Action: dtanner googles [19:45] briareus: thanks [19:45] dtanner: if you find its gtk stepbrother let me know [19:45] briareus: will do [19:45] nullboy: kind of line installing OSX to me. i did not have to tell it anything but the activation key. it did the rest itself. until i went to log in and i gave it my name [19:46] line= like [19:46] yeah [19:46] Action: dtanner need a cigar [19:46] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] it would be cool if there was a great gtk based burning front end that DID NOT depend on gnome [19:48] i feel like programming [19:48] prodor (n=Uninajab@200.52.215.221) left irc: "halt" [19:48] nullboy: i am thinking i am actually going to install the home version on my mac. for gaming etc [19:48] I think i'll smash my head against this stupid music player i've been working with. [19:48] Pig_Pen, i agree 100% [19:49] lotec: there is also a way to clean install with vista upgrade disks, if you have those [19:49] nullboy: i like gnome =) [19:49] Pig_Pen, have you tried xfburn? i haven't played with it much [19:49] dtanner: ok? [19:49] i menat Pig_Pen nullboy [19:49] meant* [19:49] nullboy on the mac? [19:49] =) [19:49] lotec: don't know about that [19:49] half asleep still [19:50] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [19:51] gnome is ok for those that like it, i have no interest in using it, i am happy with lightweight desktops like fvwm or openbox [19:52] I use xfce and gnome and fluxbox mostly , just personal preference. [19:53] dtanner, why all three? [19:53] lately i have been using kde & konversation because i can make the fonts big enough that i can sit across the room and roll around my shortwave radio dial and see what is happening in ##slackware, my office chair has wheels so i can slide up to the PC when i want to comment :D [19:54] briareus: http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 < several here [19:55] briareus: also gnometoaster looks ok , i wil give that one a shot -> http://gnometoaster.rulez.org/ [19:55] I've heard of it, never tried it [19:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "leaving" [19:57] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [19:57] 8.5 hrs and no lunch... yeah, i need to get the fuck out of here and eat something [19:58] peace [19:58] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't." [19:58] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [19:58] happy vittles [20:08] hiptobecubic: oh, i stick with gnome mostly. xfce and fluxbox I still like though. depends on what box I am on *shrug* [20:09] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:12] sherique (n=e@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:13] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [20:14] bbbs (n=aldskfj@c-24-10-229-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] anyone use darik's boot and nuke? or killdisk? [20:15] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:15] Ne'r heard of either [20:16] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [20:17] bbbs: u using linux? [20:18] dban is a bootable cd that securly erases everything on a computer. [20:18] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:19] i have three of these computers i need to wipe and only one external cd-rom. i wanted to know if dban loads EVERYTHING into memory or if it will use the CD later. [20:19] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: "Ik ga weg" [20:19] depens on how much memory u have [20:19] i would like to get them all started. its takes about 8 hours. [20:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "bbiab" [20:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [20:23] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:23] HEya acidkill [20:24] hi [20:24] 'ow goes? [20:24] pretty good, but i need to seriously clean this keyboard [20:25] wireless tough [20:25] SO many good jokes come to mind from that... [20:25] and like all good jokes, based in truth [20:25] lol [20:25] mostly hair, dirt, and food [20:25] but you do never know [20:26] That reminds me. I need to figure out why my mouse stops working in Slack when I switch the channel on my KVM [20:27] The mouse works fine on the Windows mahcine also attached [20:28] Nick change: spmd -> cursed [20:28] Nick change: cursed -> spmd [20:32] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] CLI w/ gpm btw. [20:34] If anyone has an ideas, I'd love to hear them. Restarting gpm didn't work [20:34] ed (n=ed@92.17.231.246) joined ##slackware. [20:37] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve4-0-0-cust53.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl5-98.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [20:46] Zhig (n=Evlun@adsl-223-89-22.aep.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] Is Wireshack the new name/company for Ethereal (network analyzer)? [20:47] Wireshack or Wirshark? [20:47] Err, wireshark [20:48] Is it? [20:48] I thought they were two separate products/projects,but I don't know. [20:48] wireshark = ethereal [20:48] My mistake, Wireshark. [20:48] briareus: Thank you. [20:48] something about the ethereal name I think, unsure [20:49] briareus: gnomebaker is nice enough frontend, i just burnt a few cds np. [20:49] gnomebaker? never heard of that one [20:49] Because apparently ethereal.com is down. [20:49] or did you mean gnometoaster [20:49] no, gnomebaker , I haven't tried gnometoaster [20:49] ok [20:51] briareus: http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 <- several listed here also that are not kde dependent [20:53] thx [20:53] (1138) [20:53] np, i'm out, going to watch the Florida gators and Ohio Uni game [20:55] Bah, college football [20:56] do I need a initrd? [20:56] is that new in 2.6? [20:56] adrenaline: Depends [20:57] SM177Y_ (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] I am only using ext3 and I * them does that mean I don't need initrd? [20:57] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:57] adrenaline: I wouldn't think so, but *shrug* [20:58] adrenaline: did you compile your own kernel? [20:59] ed (n=ed@92.17.231.246) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] yes [21:00] also the directions say something about cp /arch/i386/ blah but there is no i386 in arch [21:00] I wish flash would stay full screen when something else has the focus [21:01] Action: adrenaline thinks this is not going to work yikes [21:01] too much differences in kernel directions [21:01] adrenaline: if you compiled it yourself, and you compiled in all the drivers your system uses, then you won't need initrd [21:02] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [21:02] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.33) joined ##slackware. [21:03] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Maybe the USb stuff is M [21:03] but that is it [21:04] Now it wants me to cp a System map but there is not one of those either does that appear once the kernel is done with make all? [21:04] adrenaline: do you have a specific reason that you are recompiling your kernel? [21:04] most people can use the stock kernel without having to recompile [21:07] Ya I want to learn how to do it [21:08] Documentation is all different though kind of crazy. I am waiting for the make all to finish [21:08] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:09] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-fb14125ef0ebc534) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] RaNdY (n=randy@acl1-956bts.gw.smartbro.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-dc700c489b651475) joined ##slackware. [21:14] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.120.233) joined ##slackware. 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I checked those already to no success [21:26] binaries do NOT go to /sbin typically o.O [21:26] sfuentes: what is the problem? [21:27] was trying to install bitchx package and it says its installed but i can't find it [21:27] i even tried slackpkg reinstall bitchx and it reinstalled it [21:27] just use slackpkg to remove it. [21:27] but i still can't find it [21:27] sfuentes: cat /var/log/packages/bitchx* [21:27] remember the bitchx command is BitchX (case-sensitive), try typing that [21:28] i tried bitchX too [21:28] capital B, capital X [21:28] which BitchX [21:28] /usr/bin/BitchX [21:28] thrice': didn't look there [21:28] ... [21:28] * BitchX [21:28] yeah [21:28] sfuentes, that's just the installation log [21:28] :/ BitchX works ... that's embarrasing [21:28] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [21:28] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:28] hehe [21:29] lol [21:29] irssi is better anyways lol [21:29] sfuentes: next time you have a problem like that, you can read the package list in /var/adm/packages/ to see what all files it installed [21:29] Gargantua: amen! [21:29] thanks for the help guys [21:30] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.65.111) left irc: "0x0" [21:30] oh the countless hours on ttyl1 on #ati [21:30] irssi is always better [ in bed ] [21:30] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:30] hehe [21:32] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [21:33] i won't have no BitchX [ in mine bed ] [21:33] and tahst that [21:33] what's wrong with bitchx? [21:33] or BitchX i should say [21:33] sfuentes: it's not scriptable in perl, is my main complaint [21:33] crap I ran out of /usr space [21:34] its scripting language is mostly tcl I think, but not well documented [21:34] RaNdY (n=randy@acl1-956bts.gw.smartbro.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:34] (it's almost but not quite the same as ircII's scripting, or epic's...) [21:35] i see [21:35] also, if you don't set your IRCNAME or whatever, it'll show up as "I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc" [21:35] there *is no* BitchX.doc [21:35] giuppy (n=giuppy@host139-170-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:35] (go on, try to find it in the package you just installed...) [21:36] irssi just seems like a major pain the ass to me [21:36] ha [21:36] xchat is a pain in the ass [21:36] :) [21:36] fail [21:36] nullboy: probably how much of a pain it is, depends on how much of a pain you find perl to be (some love it, some hate it) [21:37] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [21:38] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] baradude (n=baradude@58.137.93.218) joined ##slackware. [21:39] xchat is lovely [21:39] xchat is fail [21:39] irssi is better. ;) [21:39] *HEADDESK* [21:39] I can't screen xchat ;P [21:39] hardly [21:39] Dominian: xchat is best if you have to IRC from Windows. [21:39] i can screen finch [21:39] Dominian, you don't have to. It has this feature, where it can be put into a window and moved aroudn [21:39] argh, brain failure. What is the name of the program that takes a bunch of wav files and adjusts their relative volume (for making mix CDs or whatever)? [21:39] Urchlay: normalizer [21:39] and you can have more than one app a time open [21:39] i love it [21:40] nullboy: thank you! [21:40] I remembered everything but the name... [21:40] hiptobecubic: that's.. not my point... [21:40] hiptobecubic: I stick irssi in screen.. so I can "detach" and leave it running in my shell without being logged into my server [21:40] then connect from wherever I want.. reattach.. and continue on [21:41] Urchlay: I found BitchX.doc [21:41] sfuentes: really? amazing [21:41] or vnc/ ssh -X [21:41] I recall whatever version I used to use, didn't have it... guess they finally noticed it was missing [21:41] failx2 [21:42] Urchlay: i was going to say that maybe the forgot to include it in a prev version [21:42] hiptobecubic: I'm not going to export an X application while at work.. or from my parent's house when I don't have my linux laptop handy [21:42] remote desktop [21:43] again.. [21:43] You have to forward ports through a firewall that are .. in my mind.. insecure and I would rather not have an internal machine that open to the 'net [21:44] but you'll ssh? [21:44] ... [21:44] hiptobecubic: uhh yeah I will [21:44] ssh -D or something similar :D [21:45] what's wrong with using ssh? [21:45] do tell us all [21:45] Action: Dominian shakes his head [21:45] i'm not saying anything is wrong with it. I'm saying that if you'll do ssh, then why can't you do vnc through ssh? [21:45] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [21:45] hiptobecubic: what'sthe freakin' point of that? [21:45] gui or no gui, I still prefer irssi [21:46] Are you kidding? What's the point of encrypting remote desktop sessions? [21:47] is all content encrypted in an ssh session? [21:47] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [21:47] sfuentes: yes [21:47] everything that goes thruogh the ssh tunnel is encrypted [21:48] doesn't seem like scp is suitable for backing files inside a LAN then [21:48] sure it is [21:48] or home LAN i should say [21:48] not all LANs are safe zones [21:48] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-dc700c489b651475) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:49] what's wrong with scp? [21:49] nothing [21:49] why would scp be not suitable for backing up files inside LAN? [21:49] i use it daily [21:49] as do i [21:49] just seems like the encrypting and decrypting would be pointless in a home network [21:49] i prefer rsync over ssh, but that's another story [21:50] that's an awesome setup too [21:50] aye [21:50] sfuentes : you're confusing LAN with 'home network'. not to mention that doesn't make it pointless [21:50] and last but not least, you can set the encryption in ssh to null [21:50] alisn91 (n=Alisson@189.81.21.66) joined ##slackware. [21:51] couldn't you just use rsh for that? [21:51] ananke: that would be.. just... telnet? [21:51] heh [21:51] rsh sucks, mostly because of the separate ports [21:51] ananke: what's the diff between lan and homenet? [21:51] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=samuel@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [21:52] sfuentes : LAN stands for local area network. a huge network can still be a LAN [21:52] while 'home network' is something you have in your basement [21:52] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [21:52] wish I had a basement :( [21:52] [ in bed ] [21:52] Sorry. [21:52] gm152: your plus key works [21:52] stupid alias [21:52] and like nullboy already noticed, not every LAN consists of trusted hosts [21:53] yeah.. take Comcast. [21:53] your neighborhood.. is a LAN [21:53] period. [21:53] Ever done a wireshark capture on a cable network? [21:53] Scary [21:53] ananke: don't mean to sound like an ahole, but doesn't a home network technically still a LAN? [21:54] sfuentes : sure, a home network is most likely a LAN; however, the opposite is not always true [21:54] so when you say 'scp is not suitable for a LAN', that's a gross overstatement, and hardly correct one [21:55] every honda may be a car, but not every car is a honda [21:55] ananke: yes, yes. you are correct. i meant home network, so it was an incorrect statement [21:56] ananke: but wouldn't encryption still be pointless in a home network? [21:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-137-220.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:56] sfuentes : why would it? [21:56] ananke: in a wired home network [21:57] i have my home network split into two vlans and because of the various accessibility requirements for each side I rely upon ssh/scp for secured transfers between the broadcast domains [21:57] sfuentes : if it's wired, and you're that worried about the encryption overhead, simply set the cypher to none [21:57] ananke: i imagine it would use some unneccessary cpu cycles ... especially if they are old machines [21:57] how does a wired network make a difference? anyone can sniff on a switch these days [21:58] sfuentes: what if the (CIA|KGB|IRS|Scientologists|Daleks) take over one of your machines and starts logging all your LAN traffic? [21:58] ananke: oh yes. i need to look into that ... didn't know it was possible [21:58] or if you're really paranoid, you might think they could sit out on the street and pick up signals coming from your unshielded twisted pair [21:58] nullboy: i imagine that sniffing wireless is alot easier [21:58] (actually I've no idea whether that's possible or not) [21:59] sfuentes: it doesn't matter, it's all the same concept [21:59] Urchlay: u never know :) [21:59] Urchlay: COuld read the radiation from the monior. [21:59] this is post 911 [21:59] FriedBob: and that's old tech [22:00] Action: ananke spells out tempest [22:00] yeah, the tempest stuff... hr, was going to say only CRTs, but they do it to a laptop in the book Cryptonomicon [22:00] sorry what? "take over one of your machines and start logging LAN traffic?" are we talking about a vpn or something? [22:00] and all the big corps do what the gov asks [22:00] (which, yes, it's fiction, but well-researched) [22:00] Urchlay: sniffing from the laptop's LCD feed has already been done in the real world [22:00] hiptobecubic: I'm just talking at random I think [22:01] plus rootkits are underestimated [22:02] ugh reinstall [22:02] does anybody here have any recommendations on a hosting service that uses slackware? [22:02] the last point i'd like to make on ssh/scp is simple one: it's just so much easier to use the same tools both at work and at home. who cares about the little performance overhead [22:02] SiegeX: SevenL.net [22:02] acidchild: ping [22:03] don't wake him up!!!! [22:03] SiegeX, linode? [22:03] heh [22:03] ive looked at linode, are most VPS hosting services about ~$20/mo? [22:03] SiegeX: If you're from Canada.. SevenL is a good bet.. linode isn't bad [22:03] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=samuel@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [22:03] have you guys ever been in [22:03] [ bed ] [22:04] lol [22:04] lol [22:04] nullboy just can't get it right [ in bed ] [22:04] SiegeX, mine is really cheap.. but then again it sucks and is restrictive. you get what you pay for [22:04] continuation: in linode's channel when that script kiddie with the proxies goes apeshit? [22:04] ananke: I should've just kept my mouth shut the other night eh? [22:04] go buy a p4 off ebay for 50 bucks and set up dyndns [22:04] nullboy: all the time ;) [22:04] Dominian : i missed last night, just picked it up this morning :) [22:04] BP{k}: hahaha [22:04] ananke: well actually it was yesterday morning... [22:05] that whole thing with in bed is my fault lol [22:05] BP{k}: i have a Double Abbey Ale by Bornem [22:05] Dominian: that's what she said as well ;) [22:05] well this is for my bro-in-law's business website. Ive never used a hosting service before. The cheap ones seem to only give you cpanel access and limited ssh. I'm not so sure how easy it would be to setup a CMS. [22:05] BP{k}: haha [22:05] CMS? [22:05] ananke: 10:41 < Dominian> Ya know.. I just realized... you can add "in bed" to everything said in this channel.. kind of like a fortune from a fortune cookie... [22:05] so having a slackware VPS with root would be the easiest way to go, but I dont think hes going to want to pay more than $10/mo. [22:05] ananke: and then... it started.... [22:05] content management system [22:05] SiegeX: uhhh hahaha [22:05] SiegeX: 10bucks a month.. how much bandwidth and space are you talking there? [22:06] well dreamhost might work for you [22:06] not to mentiion what type of CMS and the space the sql database will take up [22:06] that's what i use [22:06] sfuentes (n=fuentesj@cpe-76-90-194-49.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:06] SiegeX: site5.com is OK if you are paying for hosting [22:06] http://www.fatcow.com/fatcow/index.bml [22:06] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:06] is what i was looking at [22:06] SiegeX, what kind of traffic are you looking at [22:07] they say 'unlimited' space and bandwidth, but im pretty sure their def of 'unlimited' is about the same as comcast's [22:07] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] SiegeX: just rmember.. you pay for what you get [22:07] is this like.... a website for Bill's Paint and Hotdogs ? or the next youtube [22:07] nullboy: nice :) [22:07] if its cheap.. more than likely.. its "cheap" [22:07] its a new mortgage business so im guessing not much. I would honestly probably host it on my home server for now. But comcast wont let me send out emails with other domain names, so that throws that idea out the window [22:07] nullboy: http://woodbrewery.co.uk/ <-- got a couple of ales from there for Christmas. [22:08] SiegeX: no it doesn't [22:08] SiegeX: configure postfix to do smart host relaying to your ISP's mail server.. problem solved [22:08] hehe [22:08] Dominian: well ive set comcast's SMTP server as my SMART_HOST [22:08] via sendmail [22:08] there you go [22:09] but if i dont set the MAIL FROM: to a valid @comcast.net, it rejects it =( [22:09] even when im auth'd [22:09] alisn91 (n=Alisson@189.81.21.66) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:09] SiegeX, can you not have a mail server? [22:09] well, i think google can handle it for a price [22:10] so that might be an option [22:10] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137227.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] i might be doing something wrong with the comcast deal, but when i was on AT&T DSL, i didnt have this problem. As long as I was auth'd, I could send as any joe blow [22:13] SiegeX: some ISPs do that on purpose as a sort of anti-spam tactic [22:13] Pacbell did that in the past but they lifted that constraint recently [22:14] nullboy: that is so funny you said that [22:14] i just tested it, and now it works [22:14] so schweet [22:15] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:15] maybe its a new years resolution =) [22:15] YAY [22:15] hm. if cdrecord says this: Capacity Blklen/Sparesz. Format-type Type 16763814 2048 0x00 No Media Present or Unknown Capacity [22:16] bbiab. But real quick, what is a good webmail? I tried hivemail and I was semi-happy with that. But that was a few years ago [22:16] Omega_Red (n=thiago@189.71.175.162) joined ##slackware. [22:16] that's likely to mean crappy firmware on the drive, right? [22:16] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left ##slackware. [22:16] Anybody know IF you can change X's BPP on the fly and if so, how? [22:16] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:16] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [22:16] AbortRetryFail: you can't [22:17] Ok didn't think so. [22:17] wine keeps trying to with xrandr [22:17] unless there's some brand-new shiny extension that allows it [22:17] bpp? [22:17] bits per pixel AKA color depth [22:17] oh [22:17] yeah [22:18] hm, actually I think DGA 2 allows it, but that won't help you with wine [22:18] AbortRetryFail, what are you trying to run? have you thought about running it in its own xsession or something? [22:18] hmm [22:19] (DGA = archaic way of writing direct to the framebuffer, apps that use it have to have root privileges) [22:19] Urchlay, yuck [22:19] afaik wine can't use DGA [22:19] well if i can change the BPP before hand it'll be fine [22:20] any idea how to start another x session and use that? [22:20] that would be fine. [22:20] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [22:21] xinit [22:21] could try "xinit /usr/bin/wine args -- :1 -depth 16" [22:21] rockin :D [22:21] you may have some issues with xauthority [22:21] i had to use --no-listen tcp or something to that effect [22:22] yeah, I vaguely recall having to disable it somehow, lemme see if I have one of these old scripts... [22:23] http://rafb.net/p/Fk7kQ711.html [22:23] _S4MUR4I_ (n=s4mur4i@189.81.25.20) joined ##slackware. [22:23] that's what i use to call starcraft [22:24] looks familiar [22:24] bbbs (n=aldskfj@c-24-10-229-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Success [22:24] took me forever to get it workign [22:24] that's it [22:24] but then again, i'm a linnoob [22:24] -ac [22:24] thx! [22:24] ever since I found out virtualbox can run fast enough to play old directx 2d games, I quit using wine to play them [22:24] i had to do that with xnest too [22:24] Urchlay: pentium 3 [22:25] ouch [22:25] Starcraft must be fullscreen! [22:25] what game are you trying to play? [22:25] Starcraft [22:25] hahaha [22:25] awesome [22:25] I would prefer windowed actually. [22:25] but then it messes up your mouse-on-the-edge movement [22:25] ah. Should be fine, used to starcraft on wine on a p3/600 [22:25] p3/650 here [22:25] smokin [22:26] do see if you can get the starcraft patches to apply, if you haven't already [22:26] AbortRetryFail, do you play a lot? or just for fun [22:26] GL hardware isn't fast enough to do the 16/8 conversion though [22:26] a lot with friends [22:26] LAN [22:26] hamachi, etc. [22:26] no bnet [22:26] fuck bnet :) [22:26] srsly [22:26] What race? [22:26] 'cause one of the later patches gives you TCP/IP over LAN, without having to talk to a battle.net server or use IPX [22:26] zerg and terran [22:26] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [22:26] terran all the way! [22:26] we use udp [22:27] yeah, probably UDP is what I'm thinking of [22:27] yeah udp [22:27] was months ago when I last played :( [22:27] I only recently started playing [22:27] 1.15.1 blizzard built in a nocd hack [22:27] it's a very challenging game [22:27] officially supported. [22:27] I did once upon a time have a couple of Linux boxes with IPX set up to work correctly in wine + starcraft [22:27] it's so fast, AOE2 feels like a waste of time these days [22:28] that was probably like 2001 though [22:28] i haven't tried to lan it from linux yet. I always use the machines at school [22:28] which are ready to go. [22:28] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [22:28] Action: Urchlay still plays original AOE (with its expansion) [22:28] we just plug in usb keys with the game on it and start [22:28] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [22:28] brb gonna see if 8bit helps at all before i keep trying [22:29] AbortRetryFail, do you ever watch the progamers play? [22:29] AbortRetryFail: I'd be surprised [22:29] when i set mine to 8bit the colors go crazy [22:29] last time I tried it, wine absolutely refused to work on an 8bpp X server [22:30] (specifically because it *always* inits openGL, even for stuff that doesn't use it, and my card/driver doesn't support 3d accel in 8bpp mode) [22:30] ukabin (n=ukabin@unaffiliated/ukabin) left irc: "see you next deculture" [22:30] maybe that's what's wrong with it [22:30] one of the devs in #wine said they wouldn't even consider fixing it [22:30] yeah i imagine not. [22:30] and he expressed great surprise that I was able to even get wine to compile with --disable-opengl [22:31] (not that it actually *worked* in 8bpp anyway, but it failed for a different reason, that I can't recall now) [22:31] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] fdO (n=fd0@unaffiliated/fdo) joined ##slackware. [22:36] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.33) left irc: "leaving" [22:39] does anyone here "subscribe" to slackware? [22:41] the mailing list? [22:41] no...I mean the subscription sold at the slackware store...sorry, that wasn't too clear [22:42] the what? [22:42] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/subscriptions.html?id=9JnbJpCC:mv_arg=mv_arg:mv_pc=10 [22:42] subscription...sorry I can't paste a link [22:42] ah that's it... [22:42] thanks twolf [22:43] How it works is a little unclear from the description, and I'm wondering [22:44] they will send you discs every time there is a release and charge your credit card [22:44] are you on dialup? [22:44] helps keep the project funded [22:44] Why not just download them [22:45] without subscribers, slackware would not continue [22:45] hiptobecubic: thats fine, but I work in a gov't shop where some of us have switched to Slack, and I think it's a good idea to support development somehow [22:45] oh if it's on a corporate card then by all means :D [22:45] we've been using it for a couple of months now, and it's pretty permanent. [22:46] (as far as that goes in gov't ;-) [22:46] which gov't is this? [22:46] put our tax dollars to good use ffs [22:46] US [22:46] U.S (not "us") [22:47] oh yeah? [22:47] i'm impressed. i didn't think we'd ever officially do anything but donate to the bill and melinda gates fund. [22:48] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [22:48] given how much we spend on Win software, $50 bucks isn't too mcuch to ask. [22:48] *much [22:49] Anyway. I appreciate the info, twolf. So the DVD is $60 and the subscription in $40. Do you know how much the updates cost? [22:49] it's just $40 every release, and mailed automatically [22:49] i think :) [22:50] yep thats it [22:50] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137227.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] thanks thrice` [22:50] update as in patches? does he ever master a new DVD image with the patches included? [22:50] so, $40 every 8-10 months (or however often a release happens) [22:50] Urchlay: I think that's a release [22:51] you can get on the mailing list for the patches [22:51] yeah... what I thought [22:51] like there are 4 or 5 patches for 12.2 now, but 6 months from now people will still be downloading (or buying) the same DVD without the patches [22:52] slackpkg! [22:52] er, add a ? to the end of that, it was a question, not a statement... [22:52] indeed :) [22:52] slackpkg covers patches doesn't it? [22:52] yes, but he is still updating slackware releases from 4-5 years back :) [22:52] and if you're on -current you needn't worry? [22:52] well...not about patches anyway...:-) [22:52] haha right [22:53] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] yah... just wondering if anyone (not necessarily anyone official) ever makes iso images of those older release with all the patches "slipstreamed" (sorry, MS terminology there...) [22:55] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:56] no..but itd be easy to do [22:56] yah, likely so. Being lazy I thought maybe somebody already did it, but I guess not :) [22:57] Urchlay: that's not a bad question...I would not mind having a 2.4 based version (11.x) around for alternatives...but downloading the patches and just using installpkg would not be too hard. [22:57] nah, not hard to do [22:57] supergear_ (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] you could just have an rsync of patches and installpkg *.tgz [22:58] that wouldn't be too terrible i don't think [22:58] no but I would not mind having a pre-rolled iso with 11.x fully patched and ready for install. [22:58] Is there supposed to be arch/i386/boot/vmlinux file? [22:58] Hi. [22:58] I may just do that. [22:59] vmlinuz? [22:59] adrenaline: try arch/x86/boot/vmlinuz [22:59] the name changed fairly recently, from i386 to x86 [22:59] Ya I have that but not the vmliuz or whatever it is supposed to be [23:00] er, yeah, it actually should be called bzImage [23:00] ok it was confused [23:00] what's the deal with 'vmlinuz' ? why is it named that? [23:00] arch/x86/boot/bzImage, unless that's changed too... [23:00] I was confused. Oke I don't have the bzImage there is it because it is still compiling? [23:01] adrenaline, did it finish compiling or not? [23:01] er, if it's still compiling, then yeah that's why it's not there [23:01] also did you tell it to make a bzImage or something else? [23:01] hip: I guess the z is supposed to let you know it's "zipped" or gzipped or whatever it really is [23:01] It must have changed [23:01] hiptobecubic, not yet [23:01] the "vm" part is because the traditional name for a BSD kernel on a VAX was "vmunix" [23:02] adrenaline, do this. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding&s[]=kernel&s[]=compile [23:02] I'm reading through Ch 22 of the samba docs, and I'm having trouble setting up a raw printer in CUPS. [23:02] what did the vm in unix stand for? [23:02] Thanks hiptobecubic [23:02] Herman (n=Hermann@h-158-16.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:02] "vm" means "virtual memory"... I suppose the original version was just "unix" [23:02] adrenaline, keep in mind that the kernel number should be changed to whatever you're using. make sure you actually read. [23:03] Urchlay, oh. I was thinking virtual machine or something. [23:03] and someone came along and added virt memory support, and started calling the kernels vmunix to keep them separate from the old versions, maybe... I don't even know if I was born yet [23:03] I am reading just that all of the instructions are wrong [23:03] I choose my USB printer in the "Add Printer" task, and in the Model/Driver phase I can't find any raw option [23:03] There is no System.map either [23:03] (guess I was, but not old enough to know what a compiler is...) [23:03] adrenaline, i use it every time. [23:04] have you compiled a 2.6.28 yet? [23:04] yes [23:04] i'm running it right now [23:04] adrenaline: is it or is it not finished compiling? System.map and bzImage don't get created until it's done [23:04] start over. lol [23:04] Ok thanks Urchlay I am jsut not patient enough hehe [23:04] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] haha [23:04] This is my first time so forgive me for I am green [23:05] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-137-220.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [23:05] how long have you been waiting? [23:05] 15 min or so [23:05] go take a dump and make some coffeee [23:05] I was just reading ahead [23:05] hehe [23:05] Thanks for that link it is the best so far I think [23:05] fifteen minutes? yikes. what processor are you running? [23:06] Herman (n=Hermann@h-158-16.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:06] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-137-220.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:06] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] 2.0 G [23:06] 2.0 g? [23:06] Dell optplex 260 [23:06] 2G [23:06] ah [23:07] single core? [23:07] building the stock config options will take some time [23:07] ya [23:07] nullboy, yeah i forgot i stripped mine so much [23:07] I bought it to play with the kernel [23:07] and have a dual core and distcc [23:07] i just put Vista Business into a VM [23:07] muhahha [23:08] and your computer's still running? i'm impressed [23:08] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:08] Action: adrenaline has no use for microsoft but could use a mac for all of my i-toys [23:08] i have Fedora, Slackware, XP, Vista, CentOS, Debian in VMs [23:08] nullboy, for fun? [23:08] for fun and profit [23:08] :O [23:08] i really should setup an xp vm [23:09] i need XP and Vista around for work [23:09] I wish I could make money out of setting up virtual machines [23:09] I have a Centos server and debian and ubuntu workstations and a slackware dev/test box [23:09] seriously [23:09] adrenaline, hahaah what? ubuntu workstation and slackware test [23:09] ya [23:09] I use ubuntu for work [23:10] I use debian for home [23:10] every time I sit down to use someone's ubuntu or debian box, I want to try "apt-get install slackware" [23:10] :( [23:10] and centos as a file/media server [23:10] Debian is actually pretty darn usable [23:10] hehe [23:12] doki_pen (n=doki_pen@doki-pen.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:13] tonight is send out the invoices night [23:13] so everyone else gets to deal with that on Friday [23:13] muahhahaha [23:13] nullboy, what exactly do you do? [23:14] i fix problems [23:14] he's an international assassin [23:14] he's boy.... nullboy [23:15] today i went out and setup some wireless gear for TV connectivity to the internet and did some basic maintenance at another site [23:16] doki_pen (n=doki_pen@doki-pen.org) joined ##slackware. [23:16] vileli8ves_ (n=darrel@nv-69-34-98-205.dyn.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "vileli8ves was eaten by a grue" [23:19] I seem to have the proper lines in mime.types and mime.conv uncommented. I have restarted cups, and still can't find where in the web interfaces to select "raw" for my printer [23:22] evo- (n=evo@wrzb-5f74c84f.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [23:24] nullboy, but what's your "job title" ? Fix it guy that wires things together? [23:24] hiptobecubic: freelance IT guy, i guess [23:24] i dunno [23:25] esom (n=enigma@222.172.214.83) joined ##slackware. [23:25] opera or firefox3 [23:25] oh you don't work for a company? [23:25] just call me Captain Planet [23:25] hiptobecubic: nope [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-4-99-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] that's cool. I have a friend trying to do that, he says it's hard to keep working coming in [23:26] yeah [23:27] ideally i need 4-6 business sites per month [23:27] .. as in 4-6 sites that call you in regularly? or you just show up once and do/setup something? [23:27] that would be perfect, 4-6 maintenance deals per month [23:27] hiptobecubic: yeah, recurring maintenance [23:27] opera and firefox 3 which you prefer? [23:28] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:28] esom: whichever one you like [23:28] How do you solicit new deals? word of mouth/ [23:28] hiptobecubic: mostly word of mouth yes [23:28] Ok here goes nothing [23:28] esom: either work just fine:-) [23:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.89.74) joined ##slackware. [23:29] hiptobecubic: lots of friends of friends who have systems that have never been maintained [23:29] but the business ones are the good ones [23:30] nullboy, not bad. and you make enough to get by? [23:30] go into a place and do an initial clean up and baseline write up, fix all the issues, setup a per month maintenance plan [23:30] yeah it's good money [23:30] nice [23:30] it's something i'd like to get more into [23:30] yeah, me too [23:30] Well kernel panic [23:31] haha [23:31] something about VFS [23:31] any ideas? [23:31] oh you don't have support for your filesystem.. i think that's what that's about [23:31] adrenaline: you missed one or all of these: filesystem driver, disk controller driver, fstab or lilo.con [23:31] misconfigured kernel [23:31] unable to mount root filesystem [23:31] yeah [23:32] I did do the lilo might have missed fstab [23:32] what is fstab supposed to do? nothing in the directions [23:32] options include making an initrd or recompiling with filesystem support. (won't take as long as the first time) [23:32] fstab is the list of all the filesystems that the kernel should know about for mounting [23:32] I will probably recompile but I did have file support [23:33] infact I did zcat .config and make oldconfig so that all should have been there right? [23:33] adrenaline: if you switch from CONFIG_IDE to libATA your disk nodes might change from hdX to sdX so lilo.conf and fstab would need updating [23:33] This is all confusing [23:33] hehe [23:34] adrenaline: which kernel were you running? huge or generic? [23:34] nullboy, libATA? makes things pretend to be serial drives or what? [23:34] I wouldn't have changed that tho [23:34] My original was huge and I think I copiled generic [23:34] hiptobecubic: libATA is the new disk setup [23:34] adrenaline: that would explain it [23:34] adrenaline: generic needs an initrd [23:34] oh really? [23:34] for reelz [23:35] is it too late to do that? [23:35] Do I need to pick something that isn't my USB printer for Device if I want to add a raw queue to cups? [23:35] adrenaline: boot the old kernel and make an initrd for your new kernel [23:35] and also when it booted it didn't know what driver to use for start video [23:35] OK [23:35] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Looks simple enough [23:37] is that a 2.6 thing? the initrd? [23:37] adrenaline, no [23:38] Strykar_ (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-763f6175698f5f93) joined ##slackware. [23:38] You *can* do it in 2.6, but also many older ones too [23:38] netmankevy (n=Kevin@11.77.220.24.static.datatruck.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] i just compile filesystem support into the kernel [23:39] I thought I did too [23:40] you could have missed your disk controller though [23:40] I just use an initrd and let Pat conpile the kernels. [23:41] Ya but maybe someday I want to help Pat compile the kernels [23:41] You gotta start somewhere [23:41] reboot take two [23:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:43] bad newroot [23:43] looks like I need a lot more practice [23:43] adrenaline, kernels are the easy stuff [23:43] you are making me feel bad because this is my 2nd attempt [23:43] fonts are all screwed up during boot too [23:44] adrenaline, i'd ditch whatever you've got there and start from scratch. following the howto and reading about what it means [23:44] that way you don't blindy poke around until it works and not know what to do again next time [23:44] the howto meaning the one you sent me? [23:44] Ok hiptobecubic thanks for the advice [23:44] adrenaline, sure. Or if you have a different one of equal or better quality use that. [23:45] cr0w_ (i=1001@adsl-241-230-56.shv.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] I think the one you gave me will be good, I was half way done when you gave it to me so I will start over using yorus [23:45] adrenaline, i'm fairly new to linux as well. i did my first kernel ALL wrong. [23:45] compiled it without help. replaced the old one completely [23:45] without testing [23:45] bricked everything [23:45] Channel flood from hiptobecubic -- kicking [23:45] :D [23:45] hiptobecubic kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:46] So i am currently having a problem with nothing auto mounting in kde. CDrom or USB based. Logged in as root or myself, nothing happens. No kde screen asking me what i want to do. I am looking in /etc/udev/rules.d/ and only see 2 files in there but i remember there being many more in 12.1. I just completed a fresh 12.2 install yesterday. Should i reinstall the udev package? [23:46] I am not new at linux so much I am new at kernels. [23:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-130.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] booooo [23:46] lol [23:46] fast typing! [23:47] I will have to try again tomorrow [23:47] i grew up on instant messaging. I have to get used to not using as punctuation. [23:47] u mean its not?!?!?!?!?eleventy??one? [23:48] agentc0re: do you mean it's not automounting or not being detected? [23:48] hiptobecubic, so if i go to from a huge kernel to generic will I have to change the fstab? [23:48] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:48] bbbs (n=aldskfj@c-24-10-229-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] It doesn't say anything in the howto [23:48] byteframe__ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-11-12.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] i think it's time for scotch [23:48] adrenaline, if you have a currently working fstab, you shouldn't have to change it [23:48] I think I am going to teach my kids to text message before I teach them to read. [23:48] nullboy: How old? [23:48] ok thanks [23:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:49] byteframe__ (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-31.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] so i got this weird computer. agere and its using linux. i want to wipe it and put on a new distro. how can i find out what video driver it is using currently so i can know what to get [23:49] lspci [23:49] FriedBob: well this one is actually whiskey, 12yr Red Breast [23:49] oh wait that will tell you the video card [23:49] dimmerbold: Not sure what you mean by "detected"? It's not auto mounting thats for sure. However my /dev/hda cd drive does mount manually. [23:49] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejb21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [23:50] bbbs, check xorg.conf [23:50] /etc/X11/xorg.conf will tell you the driver [23:50] nullboy: While good, Bourbon != Scotch. [23:50] esthar (n=esthar@student165-92.hampshire.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:50] FriedBob: hehe [23:50] netmankevy (n=Kevin@11.77.220.24.static.datatruck.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:50] infotek411 (i=8096@shell.datasync.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] agentc0re: I was referring to the USB...I missed the CD part. [23:51] So who is in LA [23:51] Action: adrenaline is in Arizona [23:52] dejai (n=dejai@230.15.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:52] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] Action: FriedBob is in misery. [23:53] Oops, I mean Missouri [23:53] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) joined ##slackware. [23:53] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] dimmerbold: Oh, let me try that device. However cdrom is suffering the same and not auto mounting. [23:53] I'm in LA ----Louisiana :D [23:54] My dad was born in LA - Lower Alabama [23:54] dimmerbold: yes, it's detected. [23:54] agentc0re: might be a HAL issue, but since I dont use KDE, I'm not of much help. Does KDE have a volume manager, like thunar-volman? [23:55] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-122-146-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:56] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "-_-'" [23:57] I'm in Fairhope, AL [23:58] about as low as you can get in alabama [00:00] --- Fri Jan 9 2009