[00:00] I just bought an Acer Aspire One and wondered if Slackware runs well on it [00:01] lamenick: which one? [00:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-79-250.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-68.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] the latest release [00:02] lamenick: No, which Acer. [00:02] let me check please [00:02] You have the 10.1" model and the 8" model. [00:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [00:04] ah [00:04] 10.1" [00:04] lamenick: when we are bored we have desided that no matter what you say or do, you *will* have stired shit [00:04] lamenick: now, pick up the soap! [00:04] :P [00:05] the best thing to do if you think someone is about to sodomize you is to shit yourself [00:05] the 10.1" requires a newer kernel than what 12.2 offers. [00:06] what happens if the attacker is into scat though? then you've just really turned them on to you even worse. [00:06] lamenick: that depends on how perverted your assalent is ;-) [00:06] lol [00:07] perfect timing... [00:07] the best thing to do if you think someone is about to sodomize you is to shit yourself [00:07] the 10.1" [00:07] is it better to wait for the release of 13.0 (if that's the next version number) [00:07] or go with current [00:08] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [00:08] :D [00:08] that's my version [00:08] yes, ive noticed severe digit overkill too [00:08] three digits for updates :P [00:08] heh [00:08] yeah [00:08] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:09] like.. every time it is just a package rebuild the last digit gets a nudge [00:09] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] dchmelik (n=root@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] welcome back agentc0re [00:09] if it is a security patch or annoying issue patch, the seccond last gets a ++ [00:10] or, if it is just plainly a new package version the middle digit gets one [00:10] thanks. [00:11] y0 agentc0re [00:11] hey there. [00:11] freealan (n=freealan@218.174.139.43) joined ##slackware. [00:11] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:11] dchmelik (n=root@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] agentc0re: How's it going? Done alot of skydiving? [00:11] So i'm getting switched from Salary to hourly at work and i'm not sure if i am going to be a big fan of this switch. [00:12] fire|bird: ya, been going every weekend :D [00:12] agentc0re: awesome [00:13] agentc0re: isn't that terribly expencive? [00:13] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] macavity: it was when he was a student. :) [00:13] the whole change came up because certain managers are cheating the system being salary and are now being required to clock in and out. IT is the only two(me and my co-worker) that were salary besides managers, so they are changing us to hourly. [00:13] macavity: It could be, yes. [00:14] that's awesome though [00:14] macavity: when we put in OT, we put it in. [00:14] now you can make more money [00:14] but it doesn't happen very often anymore. [00:14] I think some serious software updates and maintenance are coming up [00:14] If managers are able to cheat the system by leaving early, there are too many managers [00:15] antiwire, that's what it sounds like to me [00:15] Plus we've been in this habit of taking long lunches when nothing is going on... That's going to stop now that i am hourly because i will want to get my full 40 clocked in. [00:15] antiwire: Heh. i'll start screwing with everyone and clocking in to just do reboots. :D [00:15] lol [00:16] antiwire: BOFH ftw! [00:16] heh [00:16] http://www.fmylife.com/love/3517987 [00:17] LOL [00:17] hahaha [00:19] I know there is 1.5x more money to be made. But imo i didn't mind not getting OT. We got comp time instead. And while that's only worth 1:1, it was nice to have those extra days and take time off and still get paid the same that week. Where as now, i get extra one pay period and less the next possibly. I guess i just like the consistent pay. [00:20] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] agentc0re, I agree, I like my comp time [00:23] freealan (n=freealan@218.174.139.43) left irc: Client Quit [00:24] lamenick: whatever you want to say to me in PM you can say in here. It's okay, the big boys wont hurt you. ;) [00:25] wtf [00:25] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-68.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:25] lamenick: Yes i do own a 10.1" Acer asipre one. [00:25] what are you running on it? [00:26] lamenick: I had to upgrade to a 2.6.29.1 kernel to get some stuff working though. [00:26] At the time, that was the latest kernel i think. [00:26] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.100) left irc: Connection timed out [00:26] do you remember what didn't work? [00:26] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-80-145.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] I haven't played much with it lately, and am waiting for 13 to be released so i can upgrade it. [00:27] sound. [00:28] any idea when 13 is coming out? [00:28] Action: antiwire wracks the slide [00:29] lamenick: http://timecube.com [00:29] lamenick, now if you run -current [00:29] lol [00:29] what does it mean "to wrack"? [00:29] it'll be released on the fourth side of the cube at 5pm. [00:30] macavity: hit, maybe? [00:31] macavity: it's a term used to describe the actuation of the slide on a pistol to arm the weapon. [00:31] i dont know [00:31] Oh, that slide [00:31] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:31] :D [00:31] antiwire: ah, riger [00:31] ruger [00:31] does -current offer the possibility of doing an usb install? [00:31] which is what I feel like doing when people ask "when is it going to be released" [00:31] lamenick: yes [00:32] haha [00:32] dude [00:32] lamenick: hit up usb-and-pxe-instalers/ for details [00:32] dood! [00:32] it's hard to tell with the website down [00:32] no [00:32] lamenick: there is not release date in the first place [00:32] you go to an ftp mirror like you always do [00:32] not/no [00:33] lamenick: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [00:33] So, what happened? (to slackware.com) [00:33] usr13: we dont know [00:34] usr13: rumor has it is a hardware failure [00:34] thank you [00:34] lamenick: now you pretty much know where to find anything in slackware :P [00:34] macavity: Yea, may be a dead computer. [00:35] the readme says to use dd to copy the usbboot.img onto the usb stick [00:36] what if I run windows? can I just drag and drop that file? [00:36] uhm yes.. [00:36] lamenick: I've done a couple of pxe installs, worked like a charm. [00:36] slackware tends to take for granted that you already use slackware :P [00:37] if not, download the DVD iso [00:37] I can't [00:37] I have an Acer Aspire One [00:37] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] no external dvd player either [00:37] in that case you are shit out of luck.. [00:37] lamenick: You really need a linux box. [00:38] use rawrite under windows [00:38] lamenick: or you can download cygwin :P [00:39] ...just you rawrite [00:39] lamenick: There are two utilities for windows that i used to get the dvd.iso on to usb. [00:39] danc3 (n=danc3@wsip-24-120-62-66.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:39] lamenick: let me get you the links. I can't remember which one worked though. [00:39] rawrite - I was trying to think of it, just couldn't remember... [00:40] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] windows has a free utility to mount iso's [00:40] like -o loop in 'nix [00:40] demontools [00:41] i meant the microsoft one [00:41] lamenick: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/liveusbhelper/files/ (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php) [00:42] lamenick: I think using the second option worked for me perfect. [00:43] cool [00:43] thank you [00:44] macavity: are you an op here? [00:44] i know you're an old timer i just wasn't sure if you were official or not [00:44] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@85.243.164.61) joined ##slackware. [00:44] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-80-145.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-85.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] dartmouth: an official old timer? :P [00:45] lol [00:46] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-76-80.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [00:46] dartmouth: just look at the poor guy, you shouldn't have to ask. :P [00:46] He is the leader of the Jedi council. [00:47] dartmouth: no, i am not an op [00:47] oh ok. blow me. [00:48] dartmouth: though, i have yet to experience that the ops dont help me if i ask politely [00:48] lol [00:48] we should ask for cpunches to be banned again, I think [00:48] you have your orders [00:48] gzamora (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] macavity: that is the problem ;) [00:49] dartmouth: in fact, it has happened quite a few times that i have been asked in private if someone should be +kb'ed where i have said "no, ill handle it the decent way" [00:49] well thats nice [00:49] well i desperately need sleep. i will dream of your mental state. [00:49] thumbs: as odd as it may sound, i still belive that learning is an integral part of life.. even to the complete bone heads :P [00:49] Action: fire|bird dartmouth has been kicked from slackware (idiot) [00:50] macavity: some of those have a longer way to go, tho. [00:50] yes [00:50] mornin [00:50] and we have a very long patience [00:50] tewmten: moirn. [00:50] hey tewmten [00:50] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:51] dartmouth: then you better go sleep... lack of sleep does not exactly boost your sense of judgement [00:51] dartmouth: i bet you werent all to well rested when you desided to get an auto-insult script :P [00:51] *too [00:52] macavity: it's dartmouth, what sense of judgement? [00:52] fire|bird: everyone has a sense of judgement.. it ranges from suicidal to excelent [00:52] the time for judgement is past, now is the time for senseless action [00:53] macavity: good point [00:53] fire|bird: on his better days his judgement can lay around neutral for several minutes at the time [00:53] macavity: wow [00:53] yez [00:53] that is why i think he should not be banned too often [00:54] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:54] for fear of tipping the balance of his fragile mental state? [00:54] when i first ran into him it was way off the scale.. that is, his scale was from Agro^2000 to suicidal [00:54] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:54] so, i detect a very good improvement [00:55] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [00:55] I'm getting a bit faster at this dvorak layout [00:55] he may actually, with years, hard knocks and an understanding community, end up with being a not-entirely-an-idiot kinda guy [00:56] Action: edman007 scrambles fire|bird's keyboard layout [00:56] fire|bird: OK, remove all the stickers from the keys. [00:56] macavity: just imagine if the ubuntards had gotten ahold of him [00:57] might as well just remove all the keys [00:57] fire|bird: oh, i think he would have blended in very well in that crowd [00:57] thumbs: what stickers, I rearranged the keys [00:57] macavity: probably [00:58] fire|bird: I was referring to blanking all the keys. [00:58] Nick change: signal11_ -> signal11 [00:58] fire|bird: but for some reason he chose us.. and that might just be the digital goddess who is trying to remind us that it is only fun to be a genius if there is an idiot to measure against ;-P [00:58] fire|bird: no labels whatsoever. [00:58] macavity: haha, nice choice of wording. [00:58] thumbs: ah, ok. :P [00:58] Action: macavity bows to the audience [00:59] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.11.189) left irc: "Leaving" [00:59] thumbs: this has certainly kept the brain working hard today. [01:01] macavity: once I get better at this layout, I think I'll type faster than before. [01:02] C_S (n=xxx@unaffiliated/crazyscientist/x-886432) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] i learned to type on qwerty pretty damn fast with only my left hand a few weeks ago [01:02] tewmten, so? that only proves you are a right handed man [01:03] ...with a computer and internet [01:03] tewmten: yeah, hows your collar bone doing now? [01:03] no i had a broken collar bone [01:03] sakuramboo (n=sakuramb@ool-43504efe.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] fire|bird: its good man [01:03] been using my arm for about 1½ week now [01:03] tewmten: good to hear [01:04] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [01:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-85.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] tewmten, nice [01:04] is there any particular reason that slackware defaults the kernel to the huge_smp kernel on a pentium 3 laptop? [01:04] need me to break it again? [01:04] nah [01:04] sakuramboo, because the kernel works on everything [01:04] i did it once, i can do it again [01:05] tewmten, alright, suit yourself [01:05] its painful to suit myself [01:05] i have to go now [01:05] laters [01:05] :( [01:05] i don't wanna be alone! [01:05] tewmten: later [01:05] Action: thumbs hugs edman007 [01:06] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:06] \o/ [01:06] and I was accused of being gay...heh [01:06] whats going on with the site? some major revision happening or something? [01:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:08] sakuramboo: edman007 broke it. :P [01:08] wait...its STILL down?!?!?! [01:08] yup [01:08] maddslacker, sakuramboo well all i know is Dominian broke it [01:08] gah [01:08] and i need to grab some packages :( [01:08] Pat sold out to Shuttleworth, theyre chaning it to brown and then will turn it back on [01:09] sakuramboo, most of the mirrors are still up [01:09] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [01:09] maddslacker: don't even say that as a joke. :) [01:09] hehe [01:10] fire|bird, http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Ubuntu [01:10] better? [01:10] Action: macavity holds a Desert Eagle .50 to maddslacker's head [01:10] you were saying? [01:10] CRAZY_SCIENTIST (n=xxx@88.218.156.119) joined ##slackware. [01:10] read that link and get back to me [01:11] Action: edman007 pops a paper bag over macavity's head [01:11] Action: fire|bird high fives macavity [01:11] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-162-58.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] macavity accidently shoots edman007 [01:12] or himself [01:12] lmao [01:12] "Debian for niggers" :P [01:12] hehe [01:12] told ya to trust me [01:12] if i had heard that in another context is would probably have been rather pissed :P [01:13] maddslacker: go share that in #ubuntu :P [01:13] fire|bird, it's the topic in #linuxn00b [01:13] maddslacker: hahaha [01:14] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) left irc: "Leaving" [01:15] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] Xires012 (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:16] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:18] wow, it got quiet since macavity accidently shot edman007. :P [01:18] i did? [01:18] macavity: above, read :) [01:19] fire|bird: there are more intuitive ways to abuse /me [01:19] like /me watches in horror as macavity accedently shoots edman007 [01:19] macavity: dang, why didn't I think of that. [01:19] I FAIL. :( [01:19] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:20] fire|bird: now you know how to make actions by proxy.. use it wisely :P [01:20] fire|bird: and dont ever do it to alienBOB ;-) [01:20] macavity: good advice. [01:21] Action: fire|bird watches in amazement as edman007 gets up; gun shot wound completely healed. [01:21] macavity: something like that work? [01:24] yes :-) [01:24] i am probably going to be a little absent now.. i just put on The Long Kiss Goodnight [01:24] for those who give a damn, i'm extremely ecstatic about landing a job with NFI, one of the top carriers in the continental US [01:24] "cheffs do that!" :P [01:27] just got back from the store to make myself a PB&Honey sandwich. Got some Adams Chunky PB, and it is really good for any of you that haven't tried it but have been curious. [01:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Success [01:30] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:30] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [01:31] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-109.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [01:35] agentc0re: apparently, everyone ran out to get some. :) [01:35] guess so. [01:35] smed_ (n=smed@ool-435058a9.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:35] agentc0re: you should be a salesman. :P [01:36] CRAZY_SCIENTIST (n=xxx@unaffiliated/crazyscientist/x-886432) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:37] http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543 [01:37] LOL [01:37] This song is great. [01:38] hahahahahaha, nice [01:38] oh snap, epic pwnage! [01:38] haha [01:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] that's awesome [01:40] I'm on my third listen, this is great. [01:41] fire|bird, /msg'ed you a nice little log [01:42] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [01:42] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:45] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:46] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-164-227-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:49] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [01:52] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] Emeauglobine (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-16-152.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:52] smed_ (n=smed@ool-435058a9.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:52] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-125.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:57] thomasj (n=thomasj@fedora/thomasj) joined ##slackware. [01:58] I see there is a slackgallery [01:59] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:59] Morning. I never used slackware. My question is, can i update/upgrade to final version 13.0 when i install the rc1 now? I would read that up on the homepage but it's down as you already know :) [02:00] "yes you can !" [02:01] Thanks :) [02:03] thomasj, with two command lines, you can update to -current, whatever -current happens to be [02:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:03] agentc0re, what's the key I need to press to get the boot menu on the acer? (I want to boot off the usb stick) [02:03] I wonder what the commands are [02:03] they must be slackpkg or something [02:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:03] lamenick: i belive it is F8 or F12 [02:04] thanks [02:04] wow this nip tuck show is gross [02:08] never watched it [02:08] didn't interest me [02:08] brklynRednek, ah, thanks, thats really easy. [02:08] dude cut off his own forskin with a pair of nail clippers [02:09] sounds like the story I read the other day about a carpenter that sawed it off [02:09] at age 54 [02:10] are there still channel logs? [02:11] http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/ [02:12] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:12] juice: damn.. [02:13] the apartment block LAN is setup now. [02:13] so i'm watching dude downstairs's NAS [02:13] :D [02:14] ic [02:14] macavity: yes, before I was disconnected I was getting philosophical. [02:15] 'ning [02:15] hey C_Tux what is your kernel config [02:15] for the vbox [02:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:16] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] juice: just a sec :) [02:19] k [02:19] macavity, you can probably answer me this [02:19] will kde run smoothly? :) [02:20] kde 4.2.4 [02:21] I tried KDE4 on Kubuntu, Debian, Slackware, and Arch, and Arch is the only one it runs smoothly on ( on my nvidia hardware and 3800+ processory anyway.) [02:21] sadly. [02:22] Kubuntu/Debian were neigh unusable, and Slackware was jerky (even after turning off shadows, translucency, etc). Arch is smooth as can be, even with everything on. And I haven't the faintest idea why. [02:23] it runs fine for me [02:24] It runs fine for alot of people on each distro. *shrug* [02:25] sorry, we were talking about running kde on an acer aspire one :) [02:26] 1.6ghz intel atom and 1gb ram [02:31] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [02:33] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html ... [02:33] "new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel." [02:34] hm, does anyone know if a ^M could break a MySQL query? something like: SET text='blalblabla bla^M'; [02:34] the DOS newline character i think it is.. [02:35] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] did you mean to line break in text or escape from the query? [02:36] Hey C_Tux, how's it going? [02:36] dchmelik: line breaks in the text [02:37] or if there's a way i can check a query file for these kinds of problems it would be nice [02:37] I do not know about '^M', but you can do it with some kind of newline [02:37] I think it is just \n [02:37] hm [02:37] or that however it is spelled with control or maybe it is spelled out completely [02:37] but it is more likely Unix than DOS newline [02:38] because its still inside single quotes, so should it really matter? [02:38] yes; I seriously dount MySQL uses any DOS syntax [02:38] I mean 'doubt' [02:39] but you may as well try if you want [02:39] tewmten: that would be a no. [02:39] tewmten: a ^M is perfectly safe. [02:39] yeah the thing is this ^M is comming from the customer, through the web interface so.. [02:39] thumbs: ok cool thanks [02:39] tewmten: it probably needs to be stripped. [02:40] because its a query that updates some tables with string data [02:40] the thing is the strings are in catalan, so they have alot of weird characters [02:41] it works perfectly fine for spanish, english, french, german.. [02:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] so im dabbling if its an encoding issue or not [02:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] lame internets [02:42] welcome home! [02:42] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [02:42] recouping from gym times [02:43] down 13lbs [02:43] nix_chix0r: still feeling the affects of not working out for a while? [02:44] yeah its lowly getting there [02:44] only able to squat 100lb [02:44] used to do more [02:45] C_Tux2 (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:45] C_Tux2: Oh no, not you again. :P [02:46] how are you fire|bird [02:46] nix_chix0r: doing great, thank you. Been trying to type with dvorak layout today. :) [02:47] uas (n=irc@erwin.inf.tu-dresden.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:47] sweet ! [02:47] uas (n=irc@erwin.inf.tu-dresden.de) joined ##slackware. [02:47] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x503e7a37.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:47] fire|bird: doch! [02:47] yo nix_chix0r [02:47] Dracie (n=dracie@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] hai C_Tux [02:47] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:48] hmm is the slackware website down? [02:48] ... [02:48] Dracie: /topic [02:48] i'm inhaling leftover spagetti salad goes right through me [02:48] juice! [02:48] it did connect [02:49] didn't [02:49] you have a firewall? [02:55] roflmao my eyes must be failing me [02:55] it should work, trying again [02:55] bah [02:55] I am getting some error [02:55] about folder access [02:56] sounds like it is on your end [02:56] no [02:56] try it again [02:56] the folders have proper permissions [02:57] i closed the error box on mistake [02:57] I didn't read it all [02:57] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [02:59] C_Tux2 (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [03:00] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/vpb3SG77.html :) [03:01] and there was indeed a problem on my end I think, but it didn't happen before and I haven't changed anything [03:01] k [03:01] C_Tux: doch! ? :P [03:01] fire|bird: german :p [03:01] C_Tux: ah, ok. :P [03:02] Dominian: you're doing the slackadelic pastebin, right? is there nothing to remove the line numbers so it's easier to copy-paste? [03:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:03] C_Tux: When you copy from slackadelic pastebin, it doesn't include the numbers for me when I highlighted stuff to copy. [03:03] C_Tux, CONFIG_HZ_100=y you think this what fixed it? [03:04] C_Tux: Hmm, google translate says doch is but. :P [03:04] juice: no idea, I always use that, gives more battery life [03:04] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.79) joined ##slackware. [03:04] but I don't think it did, it's only 100 vs. 250 [03:05] fire|bird: hehe, no one knows what I've told you :) [03:05] C_Tux: I would assume you do. :) [03:05] C_Tux: webkit browsers sure are fast. :) [03:05] if you have not watched The Long Kiss Goodnight, do so [03:06] morning people [03:06] Hey macavity, got your movie watched. [03:06] Hey dive, how are you? [03:06] sleepy fire|bird :-) [03:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Action: fire|bird gives dive a cup of coffee. :) [03:07] thanks :-) [03:07] yw :) [03:07] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-164-146.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:08] can I add something to CONFIG_HZ is that making a tickless kernel is also supposed to be good for battery life [03:08] fire|bird: but I am nobody! oh wait, it's you... :D [03:08] C_Tux: :P [03:09] Action: fire|bird C_Tux is now know as non_existant [03:09] fire|bird: and yeah, \/\/38|<|7 rulz (see, you can easily write everything in l33t-speak, it *has* to rule) [03:09] fire|bird: :P [03:10] C_Tux: Are you using one of the webkit browsers all the time? When is yours gonna be done????? :P [03:10] morning dive, and I noticed 100Hz gave better battery-life before tickless was introduced, dunno its impact now (but keep it anyway) [03:10] fire|bird: no, I'm on firefox so I keep my motivation to dump it :) [03:11] C_Tux: ah, nice plan. :) [03:11] and more motivation to get your browser finished [03:11] fire|bird: still have to add some code but I hope it won't take that long now [03:11] fire|bird: exactly ;) [03:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-245.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [03:13] C_Tux, you are coding yourself a browser? [03:15] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:18] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-5128acd440a58bd3) joined ##slackware. [03:19] with kdelibs you can get a browser in ~15 lines of code :P [03:20] with webkit as well [03:20] it can only take an URL as a command line parameter, but other than that it is functional [03:20] sahko: webkit started as a fork off KHTML [03:20] so webkit needs kdelibs? [03:20] not any longer.. it doesnt even need Qt anymore [03:21] sounds interesting idea for a project [03:21] afaik the kde guys are planning to move webkit "back home" [03:21] that is, make kdelibs wrap around it [03:22] dive: yeah, using webkit as a rendering engine [03:22] so konqueror can use it as an engine [03:22] if i am not mistaken the project is to make a generic engine API, and then make wrappers for the popular engines [03:22] that way konqueror can use different engines on different tabs/windows [03:24] that way konqueror will "win" no matter if the ff or the apple/google funded engine becomes the best [03:24] macavity: I can get a browser in two lines of code! but I have to write binding code to use webkit-gtk from ocaml first ;p [03:24] I never really cared for konqueror that much. [03:25] (and yeah, a language that won't let buffer overflows pass is nice for a browser ;) ) [03:25] konqueror is nice, it doesn't assume you're dumb :) [03:25] Dracie (n=dracie@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:25] C_Tux: c'mon, where's the ocaml rant? :) [03:25] maybe thats why theres a seperate webkitgtk now [03:25] C_Tux: yeah, it's nice, just never really liked using it as a browser, although it did seem fairly fast. [03:26] fire|bird: didn't notice the little pro-ocaml message? :p [03:26] C_Tux: yeah, just figured, especially from you, there'd be more than that. :) [03:26] fire|bird: on many fronts i think konqueror is the best browser ive ever used [03:27] fire|bird: the only one where it sucks is html rendering :P [03:27] macavity: really? which fronts? [03:28] macavity: I do like the List All Links function, which ties in with kget. [03:28] fire|bird: it integrates with my desktop for one.. it is an all-in-one viewer, it is a browser and a file manager in one [03:28] macavity: good point. :) [03:28] macavity: http://tinyurl.com/l42u8w it has scrollbars, tabs, address bar and status bar :) [03:28] fire|bird: nah, I'm a bit tired today ;) [03:28] macavity: it used to rule for rendering :) [03:28] fire|bird: oh, and it is network transparant with nearly every network protocol in the world [03:29] macavity++ [03:29] macavity: I'll maybe have to give it a shot again. I've just been in the trying this, that, and the other thing mode lately, different de/wm's etc. [03:29] C_Tux: when? [03:29] macavity: Also, kde4 is dang nice. [03:29] fire|bird: yes :-) [03:29] jeffrey__ (n=jeffrey@219.133.230.155) joined ##slackware. [03:29] C_Tux: ive used KDE since 1.1.2 [03:29] macavity: KDE4's effects are SO nice and are so smooth, they don't slow things down, etc. [03:30] fire|bird: have you noticed how scrolling works now? [03:30] fire|bird: that is *hands down* the nicest scrolling ive seen to date in any product [03:30] macavity: yeah, very nice. [03:30] whoa, since 1.1.2. :O [03:31] macavity: one or two years ago, I remember both html and js were good :o [03:31] macavity: one thing I like about konqueror too is, Settings --> Show Terminal Emulator. [03:31] (right before they started putting crappy incompatible ajax everywhere) [03:31] fire|bird: and yes, the effects keep boggling my mind... full screen video, transparent yakuake pulled down over it, and i activate the cube desktop and spin it.. and i am at ~30% on one core.. on a freaking Intel 945GM chip! [03:32] macavity: yeah, it's extremely nice. [03:32] fire|bird: ctrl-F3 iirc [03:32] for the terminal? It doesn't show a keyboard shortcut for it. [03:32] C_Tux: i have always found that there were plenty of IE optimised sites that konqueror would misrender beyond usability [03:33] haha, I was in flux atm, so that switches workspaces. [03:33] pvn (n=vep2@n552-vep2.bfh.ch) joined ##slackware. [03:33] C_Tux: even slashdot.org doesnt work entirely right [03:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [03:33] C_Tux: which, imho, should be labeled as a "showstopper" for realease.. taken the target audience into consideration ;-) [03:34] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:34] fire|bird: ah, it seem it doesnt have a standard key binding any longer [03:35] fire|bird: not that i care.. i use yakuake [03:35] macavity: yeah, same here. yakuake ftw!!! [03:35] macavity: http://imagebin.org/54952 [03:35] 100% width, 100% hight, 0ms animation time :P [03:36] I stopped using Yakuake in favour of terminal fullscreen and alt-tabbing between windows [03:36] and since it doesn't work well in fluxbox [03:37] brb [03:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:38] macavity: I haven't found so many, but it's not really konqueror's fault then ;) [03:38] macavity: was ok for me iirc [03:39] gkkk (n=gynterk@77-233-87-197.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:39] Nick change: gkkk -> gynterk2 [03:39] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:40] nfway [03:40] vlc v1 ! [03:40] macavity: what did you do to get yakuake transparent in kde4? It doesn't have a transparent profile? [03:40] Zordrak: mplayer-nearly-1 [03:40] heh [03:41] I think mplayer is getting to 1-release with a 1/t slope, it will take an infinite time before it reaches it, but it will eventually :D [03:42] macavity: nm, I got it. [03:42] jeffrey_ (n=jeffrey@61.145.147.178) left irc: Success [03:43] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:43] i never liked mplayer [03:43] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:44] never got to the end of one video without a bug of some sort, or a crash, or weird display issues [03:44] vlc has always /just worked/ [03:44] fire|bird: http://imagebin.org:80/54953 [03:44] fire|bird: this is a test: do you recognice the movie running behind yakuake? [03:45] gynterk2 (n=gynterk@77-233-87-197.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Leaving" [03:45] you know any lighweight browser for Linux [03:45] i`m working on pentium 120 with 48MB of RAM [03:45] mac-: links -g [03:46] macavity: can't say I do really. The one you watched earlier? [03:46] mac-: forget about X [03:46] macavity, hmm the clue might be in the text :o [03:46] fire|bird: no.. it is a true classic [03:46] dive: hush ;-) [03:46] macavity: err.. really.. port !80! on imagebin?! that cant be right :) [03:47] Zordrak: oh, i have konqueror set to show port number always [03:47] paissad_ (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:47] :) [03:48] macavity: I should know, it looks familiar. :P [03:49] fire|bird: how old are you? [03:49] 23 [03:49] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:49] ah.. then you might be too young for this one [03:50] it is by many considered to be the "predecessor" of Matrix [03:50] and it has the same lead actor [03:51] though, in this flick, his companion is way hotter :P [03:51] fire|bird: hint: see that titel above the image ;-) [03:52] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427952.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:52] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:54] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Oh for crying out loud, how'd I miss that: Johnny Mnemonic [03:54] When I opened the link, I just automatically scrolled down to the image. [03:56] an all time classic if you are into the genre [03:57] have you read Mona Lisa Overdrive? [03:57] no [03:58] you should! [03:59] i have yet to read Neuromancer [03:59] ChamanGT (n=ChamanGT@unaffiliated/chamangt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] mac-, midori is a lightweight web browser [04:00] macavity: I'm using konqueror atm, I'm really liking it tbh. [04:01] fire|bird: i cant wait untill they get the "pick engine for this site" done [04:01] macavity: that'll be great. [04:01] how does konqueror store its favourites? is there a way to import from FF? [04:01] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.127.236) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] fire|bird: so if it looks better with gecko konqueror will use that, if KHTML that, or if webkit that :P [04:01] macavity: do you use kontact too for mail? [04:01] dive: really good questions.. [04:01] fire|bird: kmail [04:01] dive: yes, there is iirc. [04:01] checking... [04:02] macavity: imap? I can't get kontact to work with imap for nothing. It doesn't show mail in the folders, it says the folders don't exist. [04:02] fire|bird: kontact is a bit on the heavy side for my use.. i dont use the other features, so i may just as well launch kmail directly [04:02] dive: bookmarks---Edit bookmarks----File---Import [04:02] fire|bird: oh, i use pop3 with gmail.. i dont always have net, so i like to store my mails on the computer [04:02] yep just seen it thanks [04:03] macavity: yeah, I use pop3 with my isp, and have dovecot set for imap (as a sort of backup of my mails) but kontact just doesn't work well with it for some reason. [04:03] fung (n=fung@99-190-133-111.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] macavity: I'll maybe mess with it again tomorrow. It's 03:04 here now. [04:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:06] hmm, interesting, kmail alone seems to work fine. [04:06] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [04:07] fire|bird: it is 10:10 here :P [04:07] fire|bird: that is.. in the morning [04:07] Anyway, I have to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [04:07] macavity: :P [04:07] later macavity [04:08] see ya dive [04:08] night fire|bird :) [04:08] night C_Tux :) Take care. [04:08] hmmmm, fire|swallow, no, fire|turtle :D [04:08] hahaha [04:09] fire|ant [04:09] will eat all your food ;) [04:09] lol [04:09] see ya guys [04:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Here I go"). [04:09] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:13] hmm iGoogle widgets don't seem to work in konq :/ [04:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:38] hello [04:38] hello [04:38] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: "leaving" [04:40] giuppy (n=giuppy@host156-167-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] well until iGoogle renders correctly I can't use konqueror for much [04:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] pity it all works great apart from that [04:41] anyone of the slackware team here? [04:42] the message showed by isolinux while booting the installation dvd is wrong in slackware64-current, it describes the kernels of slackware (32 bit) [04:43] i think the files isolinux/message.txt and f2.txt are the ones with the wrong text [04:44] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Well since there is no Slackware -current installation DVD, you can relax and wait until 13.0 is released christian. It will all be updated in the end [04:45] alienBOB, i know that there isn't an official installation dvd ( i used the one from slackware.no), i just want to avoid that issue in slackware 13.0 ;-) [04:46] alienBOB, why does the huge kernel not contain the modules to boot slackware from a usb hard drive? I had to use the generic kernel + an initrd loaded with ehci_hcd, usb_storage and reiserfs to make it work. [04:46] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Anyway christian what do you think is wrong in these messages? [04:47] alienBOB: if you have a second... [04:47] alienBOB: re: pear/pecl [04:47] slava_dp: an external USB drive is not the typical situation to run an OS from. If you want that, you will have to make it work. It is Slackware, you are expected to work to make it work ;-) [04:49] the kernels, hugesmp doesn't exist in slackware64-current and in message.txt i can read something about a pentium pro cpu (which is no x86_64 cpu i think) [04:49] alienBOB, these lines in message.txt: http://pastebin.com/macdc70a [04:50] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-036f06df0462f403) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-036f06df0462f403) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:50] alienBOB: Ive realised it may not be as important as thought. It's definitely broken as described, but i dont know if it matters. pear pkgs dont require compilation iirc so would be useful to have it working.. but pecl installations have never worked on slack. the phpize step always fails. I went as deep as I could to find out why as it seems specific to slack.. but even comparing an strace of a manual phpize vs a pecl-called phpize i can find nothing di [04:50] christian: SMP is irrelevant to 64-bit [04:51] christian: it's just huge.s [04:51] christian: that will indeed be changed before release [04:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-245.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [04:51] christian: oh nm.. you knew that :) [04:51] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-11a1be7cb55c5e92) joined ##slackware. [04:51] Zordrak, yes [04:51] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-5128acd440a58bd3) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:51] Nick change: Darko -> High_Priest [04:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:55] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [04:55] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:58] *anyone* own a popcorn hour? is there any /dev/smp* device? (that's pretty important to me :) ) thanks [04:59] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) left irc: Client Quit [04:59] what? [04:59] popcorn hour?! [04:59] /dev/smp? [05:00] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-3-46.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:01] it's a multimedia drive, it plays almost any video and has tons of outputs but their player isn't ok for me [05:02] I've been told some sigma design chips were creating a device in /dev and that you could just cat your movie to it and have it player with the chip's hardware acceleration :) [05:03] tricqster (n=knao@adsl-d56.84-47-31.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [05:04] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:05] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [05:06] ok, xorg-server-1.6.2 was released some 9 hours ago :P [05:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:07] what's up with slackware.com guys? [05:08] see /topic [05:08] macavity: see you before you :D [05:08] s/see/saw/ [05:10] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:11] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [05:12] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:12] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [05:12] ok but why down? I suffer so much for this :) [05:13] conspiration of ubuntlusers :) [05:13] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [05:14] Lalloso: Most of info you want could be obtained from the current-tree [05:15] where do i access the current-tree? [05:16] Lalloso: through your local mirror [05:16] you can find a list of mirrors on slackware.com :D [05:16] it won't be updated since slackware.com went down :) [05:16] np guys just kidding [05:16] Lalloso: osl [05:16] Lalloso: anything specific you're looking for? [05:16] i just was surprised it's been down for days now [05:17] no nothing [05:17] faulty hardware afaik [05:17] The Box was old [05:18] ooh i was thinking all these time , i may be due to the download the people where doing [05:19] s/i/it/ [05:19] can someone figure out how to import a public key in kmail?!? [05:23] never mind.. kgpg seems to be the way around it [05:27] Skezda (n=Tazen@CPE-121-223-97-15.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Skezda (n=Tazen@CPE-121-223-97-15.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [05:29] Taz|ZzZ (n=Tazen@CPE-121-223-97-15.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Taz|ZzZ (n=Tazen@CPE-121-223-97-15.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [05:31] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-124-254.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [05:32] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-100-62.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Nick change: gkkk -> gynterk2 [05:33] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:36] do you also have on your slackware [05:36] a directory /etc/php [05:36] I've got it empty on my slack [05:36] 12.2 [05:36] what's that for? [05:36] v4nelle (n=van@78-103-154.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:37] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC031DF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:40] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-139-207.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-124-254.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [05:46] anTraxc (n=gts@189-041-41-120.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [05:46] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:48] php configuration? :P [05:48] Action: C_Tux doesn't have php installed [05:51] gah stupid bugs [05:51] bzzz, bzzzz, bzzzz :) [05:51] hard coded max id value.. [05:52] now i have an outtage but cant do anything about it yet because the patches need to be properly tested first [05:53] tutux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:53] gah, other computer lagging [05:54] tewmten: so, who hardcoded the value? [05:55] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:55] no idea [05:55] aparently its been like that since before i started here [05:55] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [05:55] but its gonna take a while to test this patch [05:55] gynterk2 (n=gynterk@78-28-100-62.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] who hardcoded the value? [05:56] you don't know him, good, while the patches are being tested, find out who, get a baseball bat and freak out on him :D [05:56] oh, lag over :D [05:56] he/she is not with the company any more [05:56] >193s of lag :) [05:57] doesn't matter, you can still find him [05:57] tutux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [05:57] i dont have time to do that [05:57] i need to try to keep my SLA [05:59] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:59] hmmm, Symbionese Liberation Army or Super Loose Ass? (taken from urbandictionnary.com -_- ) [06:00] service level agreement ;) [06:00] It is what IT is. [06:00] that was the first definition given by urbandictionnary but I thought it couldn't be that ;p [06:01] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [06:01] i'm going for a döner, laters [06:01] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [06:02] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-139-207.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:04] esb (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:06] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC031DF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:08] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:08] guys can i change the shortcuts to change the keyboard layouts on xfce? [06:15] v4nelle, you can do it in xorg.conf [06:16] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:18] ok slava_dp ...thx [06:21] v4nelle, this is what i have in the keyboard section (can use it as an example): Option "XkbLayout" "us,ua,ru" | Option "XkbVariant" ",winkeys,winkeys" | Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" [06:21] jeffrey__ (n=jeffrey@219.133.230.155) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:21] wow.. i didnt know xorg could do that :-) [06:23] slava_dp: what keyboard is "ua"? [06:25] macavity, ukrainian. [06:25] oh.. that figures :P [06:26] i just wasn't aware that ukranian and russian were different enought to warent different layouts [06:27] they are in fact different. there is a set of additional letters in ukrainian. [06:28] and some russian ones are absent. that makes one more layout :) [06:28] wow [06:29] the funny thing is that i actually studied russian 15 years ago [06:29] for some reason the teacher neglected to tell me that i was not learning "the universial estern block language" after all, eh? :P [06:32] well, you did, at that time :-) ukraine, belorussia, moldova (to name a few), do understand russian and mostly talk in it. but for instance ukraine is slowly switching back to ukrainian. especially the part that is closer to Europe. [06:32] interesting [06:33] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:33] is ukranian letters closer to latin letters? [06:33] s/is/are/ [06:34] nope, they are totally cyrillic. the pronunciation might be a little closer to europe than to russia. a replacement alphabet with latin letters for ukrainian is in development iirc. [06:35] iirc the standard cyrillic alphabet has more letters than the latin one? [06:36] Denmark has a few additions of its own: æ, ø and å [06:36] but it might be another 100 years till we switch. we're struggling enough to switch to cyrillic ukrainian at the moment :-) [06:36] or rather, æ was in the original latin alphabet, but has been dumped by mostly everyone else [06:37] 7 letters more (according to my keyboard) [06:37] 32? [06:37] yep [06:38] that's only four more than danish.. so with ê ë ö ï ä ÿ etc you could map them to standard latin letters with standard accents [06:38] eh, no, 33 actually [06:38] sdc (n=doa@83.212.57.143) joined ##slackware. [06:39] anyone know of an extension that can save the currently open tabs in firefox? [06:39] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.160.145) joined ##slackware. [06:39] yer, crash it. [06:39] macavity, the additional letters are on ` [ ] ; ' , and . when i switch the layout. [06:39] sdc: i dont know the name, but i think there is a session management thingie extention [06:40] slava_dp: ok, that would suck for shell scripting for sure :P [06:40] unixfool (n=OU812@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:42] macavity, heh, why would i do scripting in a language other than english? :) [06:43] Action: slava_dp would prefer the whole world to be english-speaking. life would have been so much easier on the planet. [06:43] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:43] slava_dp: i do shell scripting on the danish keyboard.. and it actually rather sucks.. [ is shift-8 for instance [06:44] oh noes. no, i prefer doing it in us english :P [06:44] slava_dp: .. mostly because i am to lazy to teach my fingers something new.. but the us/uk keyboard layouts *are* faster to use for programming [06:46] nheco_ (n=nheco_nh@201.66.189.173) left irc: "Saindo" [06:47] anyone coding with dvorak? [06:48] fire|bird is now i belive [06:48] .. and whoever got him talked into it :P [06:48] not coding [06:48] just IRC [06:48] lol [06:48] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [06:48] Zordrak: so u change... wouldn't it be better to stick to one [06:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:49] zoran119: i use dvorak on the IRC box (dvorak keyboard and layout) and i code on my main desktop box (qwerty keyb and layout) [06:49] I have always wanted to used the dvorak layout but to lazy to relearn typing lol. [06:49] zoran119: teaches you to swap easily between them [06:49] zoran119: it is probably a good idea to keep your qwerty skills in shape eventhough you use another layout on your own computer [06:50] Zordrak: i am having a hard time reasoning why you dont do that the other way around? [06:50] Zordrak: cool... i might get around dvorak one day... [06:51] Zordrak: from what i hear, dvorak should be rather fast for programming? [06:51] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.160.145) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [06:51] I read a study once where people that used both Qwerty and Dvorak have slower typing speeds then someone that just uses one layout. [06:51] macavity: yep... just thought that work would give me funny look if i asked for a dvorak keyboard [06:51] zoran119: not really [06:51] macavity: because IRC is not a critical task but it /is/ nothing but typing.. so it allows me to learn quickly and without risk to my job [06:52] zoran119: if a thing as cheep as a keyboard will increase your productivity, they *should* go for it [06:52] Zordrak: ah, ok, so you are still in the learning phase with dvorak [06:52] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-189-173.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:52] macavity: oh i know... i'm just thinking of the first reaction [06:52] macavity: well.. kinda [06:52] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [06:52] macavity: i'm sure that they would get one [06:52] i do pretty well [06:52] hello [06:53] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:53] i dont know which im fastest with atm [06:53] How i install Opera package for slackware if .tar.gz ? [06:53] probably a *little* slower on dvorak still [06:53] tty3: thats not a package [06:53] tty3: thats source [06:53] Zordrak: .. not for Opera... [06:53] macavity: orly? [06:54] http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?ver=10.00b1 [06:54] ok [06:54] hang on [06:54] tty3: get the slackbuild from slackbuilds.org [06:54] nfway.. they package for slack... [06:55] Zordrak: and give you tar.gz... [06:55] zoran119: thanks [06:55] lol... and only go up to 12.1 [06:56] In slackbuild the version is 9.64 [06:56] tty3: then you edit the slackbuild to match your wants [06:57] macavity: But i new in slack sorry... [06:57] tty3: just read the slackbuild slowly and you will know what to change [06:57] and no, you are not new.. i have seen you around [06:57] ffs... [06:58] tty3: there is an install script in the tarball [06:58] Zordrak: the tar.gz contains a setup.sh and some binary cruft [06:58] mmm [06:58] moment please [06:58] vanger (n=vanger@212-178-4-48.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) joined ##slackware. [06:58] yes [06:58] lol [06:58] tty3: just remember that with the slackbuild you get a regular package that you can removepkg if you want to [06:58] I am stupid [06:58] xD [06:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:58] How can I configure an rp-pppoe connection to connect to certain vpn server? [06:59] tty3: with the setup.sh you get your system smothered all up in alien files [06:59] Or should I do it old way, with pppd pty "pptp ..." ? [07:00] vanger: somehow i think the vpn thingie is "seccond stage" compared to the pppoe part, no? [07:00] macavity: no.. you can install it all into /opt/opera [07:00] Zordrak: ok, that just makes one place to go rm [07:00] Sorry, how do I tell rp-pppoe to connect to certain server? [07:01] macavity: also.. i dont know if it causes any hardcoded path mods.. but you could set prefix to /tmp/package-opera then makepkg [07:02] tbh id just mod the v9 slackbuild for 10 :D [07:03] Zordrak: yes.. that is what i suggested to him [07:03] vanger: the /usr/doc/rp-pppoe-3.10/HOW-TO-CONNECT seems to have some info on that [07:04] $ opera [07:04] /usr/lib/opera/10.00/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:04] :S [07:04] tty3: requires qt3 [07:04] you dont have qt3 installed [07:04] :/ [07:04] tty3: you on -current? [07:04] i figure he just didnt do a full install [07:04] he is new to slackware, remember :P [07:04] macavity: poss. [07:04] Nah [07:05] I had this porblem with qt3 installed [07:05] Zordrak: yes [07:05] tty3: then try the qt3 compat in /extra [07:05] Dorks from opera keep making qt-shared packages [07:05] otherwise.. ask vanger :) [07:05] Zordrak: How i use qt3 compat in /extra :S [07:05] >.< [07:05] I've searched for libqt-mt in /usr and just made a simlink from it to /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 [07:06] Why they keep naming their .tar.gz packages .tgz is unknown to me [07:06] go to your installation source and finda the dir called extra [07:06] oh [07:07] Here - http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/snapshot-4464/intel-linux/opera-10.00-4464.gcc4-bundled-qt4.i386.tar.bz2 [07:07] The latest opera with everything in [07:07] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.160.145) joined ##slackware. [07:07] oo [07:07] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [07:07] vanger: not found libqt-mt.so.3 in /usr/lib/ [07:07] Though, in size it's more liek firefox [07:07] vanger: Can i install opera.tar.bz2... with installpkg? [07:08] tty3: I'd search in /usr/local/lib too [07:08] tty3: no [07:08] You download it, then tar xvfj opera-10.00-somehting.tar.bz2, cd to the dir and ./install.sh [07:08] not found vanger [07:08] aah ok [07:08] qt4 [07:09] I use derivatives, so, please, remind me, is slapt-get/gslapt included in Slack default? [07:09] no [07:09] How i remove the opera qt3 ? [07:09] and they are officially frowned upon [07:09] Only install.sh [07:09] rm -rf /opt/opera [07:10] tty3: exactly.. that is what i was trying to explain to you... this time you are just luckey that it wasned spewed all over your system [07:10] vanger: not in /opt/opera [07:10] oops [07:10] LOL [07:10] Action: macavity whistles while he walks away [07:10] macavity: I've always wondered, why. Tukaani pkgtools, blazing fast compared to the original, normal (as it can be with .tgz/.tbz/.tlz) package manager... [07:11] tty3: well, then just overwrite it with newest and shinest snapshot [07:11] vanger: becuse we are religius fanatics who adhere strictly to the doctrine :P [07:12] I know that Patrick is The God, but... [07:12] no but! [07:12] :P [07:12] ok lol [07:12] Action: vanger sings Volkerding hymns loudly [07:12] slackpkg has been deemed good enough for mainline.. so now i trust it [07:13] Clean the Gnome, purge the dependencies, burn the heresy... [07:13] maybe one day this tukaani you speak of will become a trusted freind of mine.. but untill it is a freind of Patrick it wont be a freind of mine [07:13] Where did I place my lithany of hatred? [07:14] not hatred.. just mistrust :P [07:15] WTF?? [07:15] opera [07:15] /usr/lib/opera/10.00/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:16] With Opera qt4 [07:16] -.- [07:16] Oh, let me install it and try [07:17] opera ftl :) [07:17] lol [07:17] Ah [07:17] ln -s /usr/lib32/libasound.so.2 libaudio.so.2 [07:17] Reinstall & not [07:17] As root [07:17] not [07:17] :S [07:17] Are you running 32-bit? [07:17] vanger: yes [07:18] not work the symbolic link [07:18] ln -s /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 [07:18] And then retry opera [07:19] ^^ [07:19] thanks [07:19] Action: tty3 think if resist in slack lol [07:19] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [07:20] Well, Slack is frustrating because of it's stupidness [07:20] Other user-oriented distros are frustrating because of their smartassness [07:21] There is no balance yet between "Hey, user, I know better" and "Oh, my master, what stupid task do you want me to do" [07:21] lol [07:22] once you know the ins and outs of how GNU/Linux and UNIX in general works, Slackware is the distro that gets out of your way so you can have things the way you want them [07:22] Action: tty3 trying install nvidia drivers [07:22] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) left irc: "leaving" [07:22] ... but it doesn't make you coffee unless you tell it exactly how and when [07:22] I thank Patrick that he doesn't use ATi [07:23] huh? [07:23] how do you know that he doesnt? [07:23] Telling tty3 to set up ATi won't be so easy [07:24] ah, that way around [07:24] well.. tell them to edit xorg.conf to say "ati" [07:24] then tell them to wait if they bitch that 3D isnt fast [07:25] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:25] ... then do the same to nVidia users [07:25] Action: macavity does obscene gestures at anything that even resembles propietary software [07:26] macavity: 3D isn't fast :D [07:26] C_Tux: wait [07:27] macavity: ok [07:27] macavity: have waited, what do I do know? [07:27] C_Tux: or donate money to the radeonhd driver project if you want it to speed up [07:27] ^^ [07:27] macavity: remember, /me nouveau [07:27] C_Tux: while (still_not_fast) wait(); [07:28] C_Tux: yeah, you gave money to the evil ones ;-) [07:28] macavity: I once compiled open-source drivers for my last ATi [07:28] It was Radeon 9000 and it was 2005 [07:28] I can't fscking tell you what a fscking pain it was [07:28] macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? macavity: is it fast? [07:28] vanger: well at least the r300 has nice support now :P [07:28] With performance about 1/4 of proprietary [07:29] Who cares about r3xx in modern games? [07:29] C_Tux: while (still_not_fast) wait(SILENTLY); [07:29] macavity: :D [07:29] but it's still polling as much as possible ;) [07:29] And from compiz and bells and whistles point of view - proper support of onboard cards would be much better [07:30] vanger: i have an Intel 945GM, and everything works nicely here in -current land [07:31] I once struggled with i965 [07:31] GMA X3100 it is [07:31] vanger: i am actually amazed at how much less crappy than i thought it would be this chip is [07:31] oh yes.. they have just plugged some serious memory leaks on that one [07:31] I know al nuances of libdrm compilation, what is EXA and GEM [07:31] But I actually never managed to make it work [07:31] UXA is the word now :P [07:32] and no, i am not suprised it didnt work... it is not untill very recently that the things have started to come together for the Intel people [07:32] GEM was, at the very least, a stupid idea [07:32] they should have worked with Tungsten Graphics to get TTM ironed out instead [07:33] .. and now we get a TTM that exports the GEM API anyways.. so the notion that TTM was not flexible enough for the Intel needs was apparetnly not true :P [07:33] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-133-184.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:33] GEM'ified TTM should hit kernel .31 [07:34] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-159-210.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:34] akira42_ (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-199-054.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] but trust me.. i know all about recent times xorg/drm/intel/mesa suckyness... ive been banging my head against it for almost a year [07:35] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02496.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] i think i should get to bed.. it is 13:40 now :P [07:37] well, only 37 actually [07:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:40] C_Tux: i exist in a shifted universe [07:40] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:41] C_Tux: so if you want to know what happens three minutes into the future you can just ask me [07:41] C_Tux: though, naturally the price of 100% accurate information about the future is rather pricy :P [07:41] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:41] Action: macavity scratches head [07:42] "the price is pricy"?!?... i *should* go to bed [07:42] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [07:42] good night fine young [and old] hackers [and lusers] [07:43] macavity: considering how much I'm lagging right now, 3 minutes won't be enough ;) [07:43] (imagine alsamixer taking a minute to start...) [07:43] C_Tux: i am to tired to think of something funny to reply to that [07:43] so [07:44] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "zZzZzZzZzZz" [07:44] :D [07:45] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-127-193.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:45] esb (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:46] rucinter (n=chatzill@86.122.14.1) joined ##slackware. [07:48] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [07:48] I'm back [07:49] eeek (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-183.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:49] computer so laggy it takes several seconds to change the volume in alsamixer :) [07:49] I'd run ./configure --prefix=/usr/bin/ && make && su -c "make install clean" of amsn [07:49] Not found amsn folder in /usr/bin [07:49] :S [07:50] --prefix=/usr [07:50] I cannot run su -c "make deinstall clean" or "make remove" [07:50] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Hey, I installed slackware -current on my eeepc, lilo added a "windows entry" so I removed that entry from /etc/lilo.conf but when booting I still see the windows entry [07:51] eeek, have you enter lilo command in prompt? [07:51] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE69D2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Nope, I'll do it now [07:51] Used to grub >.> [07:52] How i remove the files? [07:52] Ok that worked, thanks Coolmax :) [07:52] tty3: err... [07:52] =( [07:53] tty3: I guess you have /usr/bin/bin, /usr/bin/lib, check these folders, they probably only have amsn-related files [07:53] and check /usr/bin/share [07:53] eeek (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-183.qld.bigpond.net.au) left ##slackware. [07:53] tty3, you want remove files copied after "make install"? [07:53] Taz|ZzZ (n=Tazen@121.223.97.15) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Coolmax: yes [07:54] Taz|ZzZ (n=Tazen@121.223.97.15) left irc: Client Quit [07:54] if you have sources yet, cd into this folder [07:54] and try 'make unistall' [07:55] this is only posssible if that rule is in Makefile [07:55] * make uninstall [07:55] make: *** No rule to make target `unistall'. Stop. [07:55] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:55] oops and you have problem :) [07:56] try this: [07:56] mkdir /tmp/bleble [07:56] v4nelle (n=van@78-103-154.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:56] make install DESTDIR=/tmp/bleble [07:57] in /tmp/bleble you have all files made by make install [07:57] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.210.189) joined ##slackware. [07:57] bigtfishbone (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:57] heya [07:58] anybody there [07:58] heya bigtfishbone :) [07:59] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [07:59] thank god [07:59] how's KDE 4.2 moving on --current? [07:59] any of you guys tested it? [08:00] KDE 4.2.4 [08:00] in current [08:00] Coolmax: not work [08:00] :/ [08:00] can any1 spare me a moment in at private chat ? [08:01] tty3, what package you want to install and on which version of Slackware? [08:01] Coolmax: [08:01] :) [08:01] I find the directory of amsn installed [08:01] bigtfishbone go ahead :) [08:01] have you tried find SlackBuild? [08:02] Coolmax: No :( I want compile of 0 [08:02] not help slackbuild [08:02] can any1 spare me a moment in at private chat ? please the sh*ts kinda hit the fan [08:03] how to join :s [08:03] I said go ahaed, no one listened :) [08:03] rucinter i don't want anybody to hear it.... [08:04] What do you use on slackware to handle wlan connections? [08:04] bigtfishbone, dude, I said go ahead like use the private channel to contact me, I did msg you on private, no reply, what can I do more? [08:04] My error: ./configure --prefix=/usr/bin (you do make install clean, the mkdir is created in /usr/bin/bin/amsn [08:05] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.160.145) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:05] I found and activated KNemo, but don't know how to connect / disconnect from stuff using that [08:05] tell me how to change password on user / root [08:05] "passwd root" [08:05] if it issent the same [08:05] --prefix should be /usr [08:05] thx ^ [08:05] Coolmax: Now i understand :D [08:05] Aldaron: knemo is a NEtwork MOnitor ;) [08:05] thx ^^ * [08:06] bigtfishbone (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:06] pprkut: right :). But that seemed like the closest thing to a wlan panel applet I could find :P [08:06] Aldaron: Try wicd [08:06] vanger (n=vanger@212-178-4-48.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) left ##slackware ("!J510;AO"). [08:06] I don't understand only thing.... not incorporate network-manager-kde in slackware [08:07] not even a slackbuild for wicd? :P [08:07] It's in extra/ in 12.2 [08:07] ohh! [08:07] thanks NaCl :) [08:08] np [08:08] Aldaron: even better, it's in /patches in 12.2 :P [08:08] Sorry [08:08] Knetworkmanager [08:08] pprkut: Ah, yes. Forgot about that. [08:09] At the moment, Slackware doesn't have all of those deps needed to run NetworkManager. [08:10] tty3: try to package it. You'll start understanding pretty fast ;) [08:10] That works too. :P [08:10] 13:08 < tty3> Knetworkmanager [08:10] 13:08 < NaCl> pprkut: Ah, yes. Forgot about that. [08:10] 13:09 < NaCl> At the moment, Slackware doesn't have all of those deps needed to run NetworkManager. [08:10] Channel flood from tty3 -- kicking [08:10] 13:09 < pprkut> tty3: try to package it. You'll start understanding pretty fast ;) [08:10] tty3 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [08:10] oh lol.. [08:10] R&D.. [08:10] the delivered the patch at 13:37 to me [08:10] they* [08:11] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [08:11] sorry [08:11] tty3, you can safely use pastebin.ca [08:11] I need network-manager for connect wifi networks :/ [08:12] pastebin.slackadelic.com ftw! [08:12] rucinter: No, no i do error, move the cursor in konsole [08:12] autoposted [08:12] :( [08:12] ah :) [08:12] tty3: wicd in patches/ should do what you are looking for [08:13] they're having http://pastebay.com/ too, haha [08:13] oh well, wicd doesn't run [08:13] don't be so quick [08:13] :( [08:13] ok i try wicd :( [08:15] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [08:16] wicd works fine here [08:16] make sure you add your user to netdev group [08:16] Good tip, TwinReverb! =) [08:16] wow, TwinReverb DOES learn :D [08:17] Action: TwinReverb stabs thrice` [08:17] 8-) [08:17] thrice... [08:17] Is there a *nice* way to add a user to some group? "usermod -G" isn't nice [08:18] gpasswd -a group [08:18] the nice way is "usermod -g users -G power,wheel,netdev,kitchen,sink foo" [08:18] ooh nice one thrice` [08:18] :) [08:19] TwinReverb: no, it's not nice to first do "groups ", then edit existing groups, add one, do usermod.. [08:19] I usually just edit the /etc/groups file [08:19] you mean convenient [08:19] or elegant [08:19] Aldaron: gpasswd -a $user netdev [08:19] there's no "nice" because computers do not have feelins [08:19] er feelings [08:19] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:20] thrice`: I saw that, but had to bitch about usermod before trying that ;-) [08:20] seems I don't have a netdev group :P [08:20] oh, from said bitching, I thought you missed it [08:21] netdev is only if you're on -current [08:21] ohh, I see ;) [08:21] well, it's an improvement [08:21] Slack 12.2 only requires you to be in users, IIRC. [08:22] NaCl, power if you want to shut off the machine, disk if you want to administer certain stuff about disks, cdrom (or "burning") if you want to burn DVDs/CDs [08:22] I think he's just talking about wicd [08:22] I meant to use wicd. [08:22] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [08:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:23] yea, well, I don't know if wicd not starting is a result of me not being in a group in a first place [08:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dda79ace2331cdc7) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Probably didn't reload dbus before trying to start the daemon. [08:23] do you get a bunch of dbus warnings? [08:25] yeah wicd, users only iirc [08:25] How i create slackpkg? with tarball package [08:25] "name org.wicd.daemon was not provided by any .service files" [08:26] Make sure that the wicd daemon is started before attempting to run a client. [08:27] ohh, right :) [08:27] tyhwow, that helped [08:28] Somehow didn't guess it's a client-server app [08:29] The daemon needs root privileges. The clients allow normal users to do manage the network connections via dbus. [08:30] rucinter (n=chatzill@86.122.14.1) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090624025744]" [08:30] makes sense. Thanks, guys! [08:33] http://imagebin.org/54985 [08:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.210.189) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [08:36] I wish postgresql would go into official slackware [08:37] so that everything about it would be properly packaged by default [08:37] I know there is a nice slackbuild for it on slackbuilds.org but then one has also to recompile php to support pg_connect and such :) [08:39] What you think of slackpkg? [08:41] anyone want a package of openoffice 64 bit? 8-) [08:43] Aldaron: add yourself to "netdev" group [08:43] CalgaryConehead (n=jardine@S010600a0c5e3aa5d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] Aldaron, and be sure to log out. you may also have to restart dbus (mine didn't work after simply logging out and back in) [08:44] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:45] TwinReverb: /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload should do the trick [08:45] or yeah [08:45] man i do not like the new xfce battery thingy [08:46] oh i got xfce goodies (netload and sysload) compiled if anyone wants 'em 8-) [08:47] alienBOB, thanks for the work on slackware64-13.0-rc1, it is working very well. so far all my needs are met except maybe a few xfce-goodies (easy compile) and Skype 64 bit (not as easy but i'll hunt for a development version i can help test) [08:47] and ext4 is a bit faster than xfs (according to my benchmarks) [08:47] alienBOB: he's not on -current [08:48] alienBOB: will do, when I install 13.0 ;) [08:49] Aldaron, fwiw 13.0 rc1 works thus far, there are only a few problems so far [08:49] TwinReverb: probably. But I can't be bothered to update more often than twice a year ;) [08:49] first, even with /etc/crypttab those who only encrypt /home and swap into one LUKS/LVM2 combo don't get their /home mounted or swap added, but some entries in rc.local fix that [08:49] skepsi (n=kvirc@94.127.129.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:49] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [08:49] when slack 13.0 is out ? [08:50] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:50] poofo: when it's ready [08:50] poofo: when it's ready, but it's getting there. Not many weeks, if you ask me, but you shouldn't trust me a lot [08:50] poofo, when it's ready [08:50] second, kword crashes when called from Thunar (clicking TXT files, for some reason, launches KWord?), but KWord running on its own works fine [08:50] i see ;p [08:50] third, kmail/kgpg do not work with pin entry so far (but i'm still trying to figure out why) so you can't decrypt/sign/encrypt email [08:51] 'slackware 13 - even more useless processes by default' ;) [08:51] Action: slava_dp smells the troll [08:51] troll? [08:51] sharing my own oppinion = trolling ? [08:51] yuck [08:51] fourth, audacious and xmms both cannot play audio even after adding user to audio group and running alsaconf but amarok works just fine (and is not as bloated / slow as in slackware 12.2 so it's not much of a problem) [08:52] Action: poofo smells some paranoid soul ;) [08:52] poofo, that's like walking into #debian and saying slackware > debian [08:52] poofo: why would you have an opinion about something that isn't released yet? Or do you know something I don't? [08:52] poofo: which processes, specifically ? [08:52] in 12.2 i have some anvil process, i dont need this crap but i have it by default, in earlier versions of slack there was no such thing so... sure it might be usefull for some folks, but for some not :P [08:52] at least it doesnt come with all those dumb *kit's [08:53] poofo: I for one, am not looking forward to 13. It's going to be a chore reverting back to kde3.5 [08:53] poofo: anvil? [08:53] fifth, k3b makes coasters, but running growisofs works fine [08:53] not anvil [08:53] hm [08:53] sec [08:53] Channel flood from poofo -- kicking [08:53] ;] [08:53] poofo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [08:53] i'm still trying to figure THAT one out [08:53] lol [08:53] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [08:53] TwinReverb: I've done very well with k3b [08:53] usr13, slackware-13.0-rc1 [08:53] its called avahi [08:53] :D [08:53] usr13: well, don't update unless you want to ;) [08:53] then YOU installed avahi [08:53] no ! [08:53] i push [08:53] it does not come with slackware by default [08:53] full install. [08:54] you installed gnome? [08:54] well, later on yes [08:54] no shit! [08:54] but it was before i installed gnome ;) [08:54] avahi is a required GNOME daemon [08:54] no, it wasn't [08:54] hmm [08:54] I'm running 12.2, no avahi [08:54] okay, i was wrong :p [08:54] promise x 100 [08:54] I installed gnome on one of my boxes and was relly nice. [08:54] but dont call me troll ;P [08:55] im dying to see what 13 will ahve [08:55] poofo, don't speak nonsense and we won't [08:55] you will only be called a troll if you say "slackware 13 will load a bunch more crap!!" but provide nothing factual [08:55] ;D [08:55] alright ;p [08:55] ok good night [08:55] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:56] Glad that the smell wasn't a troll after all :) [08:56] you getting old ;D [08:57] but [08:57] did you knew that 10.2 works a lot faster than 12.2 ? [08:57] and why is that ? :P [08:57] "faster" is subjective, but it's like comparing windows 98 to vista [08:58] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] well 98 offers everything i would need, same to slack 10.2 then why the latest version doesnt have feature to cut-crap and allow user to chose tiny but faster slack ;P [08:58] I find that 12.2 is just as fast on command-line [08:58] 10.2 was still on the 2.4 kernel, for example [08:59] hardware is getting faster, why shouldn't software? :) [08:59] why shouldn't software use it* [08:59] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [08:59] oh well [09:00] my hardware doesnt getting faster and i have no money to upgrade ;P [09:00] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:00] does noone thinks about poor users with weak configs these days? [09:00] but, hardware from years and years ago will still run 13 just fine :) [09:00] yea.. [09:00] maybe ;P [09:00] sure, that's why slackware provides things like fluxbox [09:00] and windowmaker [09:00] if you load 13 with fluxbox, you'll be using about 80MB of ram [09:00] btw [09:01] which one is faster less ram eating ? [09:01] wmaker of flux ? [09:01] not sure, but it's gotta be close [09:01] i think so [09:01] ;) [09:01] Action: Zordrak just bought a decent suit for £40 [09:01] as you said [09:01] openbox uses ~ 10MB on my system ;) [09:01] i installed gnome buty come on it was so so so slow [09:02] pulseaudio dev said 'funny these slack guys who like fixing still same problems, we at redhat like to fix new problems' :) [09:03] refering to what? [09:03] to my attemtps when i tried to compile pulseaudio with all dependencies on slack [09:03] he said, you wont make it, install fedora ;) [09:04] lol [09:05] and i followed his advice, dumb me, latest fedora installer crashed twice while partitioning, finalyl when i installed and runned PA i found its another piece of shit [09:05] retrurned to slack quietly ;p [09:05] yeah, I heard their latest had some big issues with the installer [09:05] but they like to fix new problems ;D [09:05] there must be more important things to worry about ;) [09:05] AFTER they distribute it as stable ;D [09:06] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [09:06] hey so what kind of backup does everyone here have? [09:06] fedora is a big fat POS. [09:06] missyjane: i use rsnapshot [09:06] me too [09:06] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:07] used to be decent when it was named fedora core. until 6 iirc [09:07] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Action: tewmten flings a bucket of poop on snL20 [09:07] snL20: KANONERS!!!! [09:07] hm rsnapshot huh [09:07] Yosemite [09:07] sahko: 6 was the last core [09:07] Action: snL20 flings a truckload of pee on tewmten [09:07] snL20: sup? [09:07] :-) [09:08] tewmten: we're going to sweden next week for a few days :P [09:08] tewmten: you ? [09:08] I do like fedora, though [09:09] just about anything new and innovative to linux comes from red hat [09:09] thrice`: lol [09:09] thrice`, it's a buggy-buggy distro. sure, innovative, yeah. but not for me. [09:09] I use "cp" for backing up important files. That, and an external hard drive ;) [09:10] Aldaron, ah looks like im not alone in the storage backup then [09:10] cp is nice [09:10] maybe innovative but poor are their users ;) [09:10] Aldaron: I use my brain for backup, so far its failed :D [09:10] slava_dp: sure. but stuff like KMS that I am using on slack 13, I can be greatful for from red hat [09:10] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) left irc: "leaving" [09:10] snL20, psh you cant store all the porn i have in your brain [09:11] what's kms ;p [09:11] missyjane: lol [09:11] KillMySystem [09:11] snL20: im slacking at the office [09:11] because the whole morning was hell [09:11] i lost about 800mb or so the other day but that was my fault [09:11] i was stupid [09:12] missyjane, rm -rf in the wrong place? :) [09:12] i once used total commander to backup my home dir, well it skipped all dirs and files with . at start ;) [09:12] Hmh. I don't back up porn, it's not that important :) [09:12] and then i formatted whole disk [09:12] thrice`, let those fedora guys develop their stuff. if it's any good, it'll spread. [09:13] slava_dp, no, it was actually a database i didnt really successfully backup which.. my stupid retarded ass thought i did [09:13] slava_dp: exactly :) But it's nice that RH picks up the tab [09:13] i treated database as if it were really simple files [09:13] deww (i=dc2@whaddu.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] a 800 mb database..... ouch [09:14] yea most of it personal [09:14] but no not entirely 800mb database [09:14] maybe about 200mb the rest were files [09:14] deww (i=dc2@whaddu.com) left ##slackware. [09:15] i have noone to blame but myself, and i wont forget the moment of pain :( [09:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:16] missyjane: I use rdiff-backup, couldn't be happier [09:17] rdiff? isnt that like rsync? o.O [09:17] http://rdiff-backup.nongnu.org/ [09:17] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.91) joined ##slackware. [09:17] yes [09:17] so it's really efficient [09:17] and restores are very simple [09:17] oh i see, incremental and other nifty features [09:17] flat_ (n=flat@wbw393lx.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:17] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] Warghghghg. [09:18] Nick change: flat_ -> Zosma [09:18] plus, it works over the network, so offsite backups are pretty easy [09:18] ? [09:18] Zosma, WAAAGH? :D [09:18] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:18] Anybody any clue as to why my I/O locks when using an external HDD (usb-storage)? [09:18] Dracie (n=dracie@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:18] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:18] It seemed okay... but I want to restore a backup from it now and it just freezes. [09:19] Can't even run an e2fsck on it. Works fine when attached to another computer though. [09:20] i can get colors in just irssi, but screen seems to not allows colors is there a confi I might be missing [09:20] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-25-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:22] Dracie: not sure, but I'm running irssi in screen right now (on slackware 11.0), and I have colors [09:22] i'm on slackware 12.1 btw [09:22] Dracie: oops, reread, you CAN get colors in irssi [09:22] yup [09:23] its nothing to do with irssi, i can get colors just fine except when i am running it in screen [09:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-9-161.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:23] hi guys [09:23] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Anyone mucked around with samba4 yet? [09:23] ok well time to get some sleep so i can play warhammer online later [09:24] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@85.84.197.207) joined ##slackware. [09:24] ooh nvm samba talk ill stay [09:24] Dracie: so you're *not* seeing colors in irssi when you use screen? [09:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:24] yeah [09:24] I'm trying to migrate a windows server 2003 pdc to a samba one. [09:24] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Dracie: ok, my relatively stock 12.1 is showing colors in screen [09:25] hmm [09:25] So I'm attacking it like this: first hook on samba bdc, then demote windows pdc to bdc, then promote samba to pdc. [09:25] Dracie: I get colors in irssi in screen, I think I didn't do anything to config it such [09:26] Dracie: same here, no special config [09:26] But I'm struggling with getting my samba pdc to get registered on the same workgroup as the windows pdc... [09:26] Now I'm wondering what the samba parameters realm, domain, workgroup do. [09:26] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:26] man this is not helpful :) [09:28] Buggaboo: it's all AD stuff [09:29] Action: Dracie is annoyed that the slackware install he has on his virtual host is not a default install but customised a little bit [09:29] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:29] Buggaboo: domain would be windows domain (probably in .tld format), realm may be the non tld format (all caps) domain [09:29] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Dracie: ew [09:29] Dracie: how? [09:31] Zordrak, the weird thing is, that's what I thought too, but later I found out it isn't, since it has a character cap of 17. [09:31] gbon121g (n=gib@151.5.148.94) joined ##slackware. [09:31] only realm accepts the .tld name. [09:32] I set the workgroup, but I can't find it on the windows xp pro machine. [09:32] I see it under its own 'workgroup' [09:32] Dracie, it might have something to fo with $TERM (seems to be "xterm" for me, even on my irc server that doesn't have x installed :) [09:32] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [09:32] workgroup ought to be urrelevant and blank if you're doing domain work [09:32] s/u/i/ [09:33] Aldaron: sure enough, its vt100 [09:33] Dracie: wtf? a character cap? [09:33] www.slackware.com doesnt work [09:33] why [09:33] poofo: /topic [09:33] ? [09:33] mhm [09:33] not sure what you mean by char cap, but it sure doesn't like colors [09:33] umm [09:33] which part of the topic ;) [09:33] hey quick question... i was trying to replace lilo with grub and grub would generate all the map, and images and even the grub directory but it wouldnt generate a menu.lst.. is use jfs on that partition and have not had a problem before... correction i did have problem on my eee also and what i had to do was make a /boot with ext2 [09:34] try export TERM=linux [09:34] and wihtout screen its $xterm [09:34] poofo: the end [09:34] oh [09:34] well then i know nothing new [09:34] ;] [09:34] smed_ (n=smed@ool-435058a9.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:34] Zordrak, 17 characters, ascii with hyphen allowed, I don't get it either. [09:34] If you actually want people to notice slackware.com being down from the topic, START the topic with it [09:35] Aldaron: dont tell me, tell bob [09:35] yup that worked, now i just need to figure out the proper way to get it permanent [09:35] bob says: "dont tell me, tell Zordrak" [09:35] lol [09:35] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] probably /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d/.* [09:35] Aldaron, you could put it iin colors with flasng signs and soud and ppl wouldnt notice... they dont read the manuals. so whats diff [09:36] ok time to sleep [09:36] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [09:36] VampirePenguin: now that it's in the end, NO irc client I know of would ever show it at all anywhere (except if someone checked the topic with /topic). The start of the topic is always visible. [09:37] weechat showws the topic on login [09:37] Dracie: wwhere are you getting vhosted slack? [09:37] xchat does too [09:37] VampirePenguin: .. you actually *login* on irc every day? Wow :). I do that only when my server crashes [09:37] oh no not every day [09:38] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-30-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:38] im up for days unless i ping out, reboot ofr shutdown [09:38] or come in from another box [09:38] My point exactly - you won't see the topic changes from the last couple of days [09:38] Aldaron, i was basically trying to make a funny..... with that commment [09:39] VampirePenguin: oh. Couldn't read between those lines ;) [09:39] Aldaron, i wasnt critcizing the suggestion [09:39] but how many ppl even read the manulas.. and to expect a topic [09:39] Bob, get spoken to! [09:39] damn samba and their cutting edge tech with little documentation on corner cases! [09:39] Zordrak: vpslink [09:39] illuz1oN (i=500@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] I sometimes eye at the topic (the part that's visible anyway). Can't say how often though [09:40] then again, nobody's forcing me to use it... [09:40] Action: Buggaboo *sighs* [09:40] Buggaboo: windows can also do nfs [09:41] well colors work now btw i hardset the $TERM in a profile.d script [09:41] spook: mirror complete.. can now quick switch all the way back to 12.0 for bootdisk off lan :) [09:41] Dracie: I'm glad to hear :) [09:42] Dracie: they dont list slack.. do you have to ask specially? [09:42] oh damn actually nevermind, on relogin and a new screensession its still vt100 [09:43] Zordrak: no its one of the linux options [09:43] lapinours (n=michael@g224124088.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:44] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [09:44] Dracie: ahhh.. you can have slack or SuSE on OpenVZ but not Xen [09:46] sorry we must be talking about a different service [09:46] :) [09:46] :/ [09:46] http://vpslink.com/vps-hosting/ [09:46] yeah.. [09:46] scroll down a bunch [09:47] OpenVS or Xen [09:47] er OpenVZ [09:47] I have OpenVZ o nthis one [09:47] yeah.. but they wont do slack on Xen [09:47] oh i see $TERMCAP is being a PITA [09:47] oh lol [09:47] and so its not listed on the front page [09:48] you have to dig into ovz to get it [09:48] nm [09:48] screen sets the termcap [09:48] too pricey anyways :) [09:48] when it starts [09:48] Zordrak: oh you get me a better deal? :D [09:49] Easy... just not with Slack :) [09:49] Action: Zordrak longs for the day he can afford his own colo [09:49] thankfully i piggyback off my companies colo atm [09:49] which is slack :) [09:49] :( need to re-install my slackware [09:50] borked up my kernel recompile and like a noob, didn't have it setup right to run next to my original kernel ( I think it overwrote it) [09:51] smed_ (n=smed@ool-435058a9.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] giant81_: why does that require reinstall? [09:51] giant81_: just boot, chroot and lilo [09:52] what package provides ld [09:52] Zordrak: he overwrote his old kernel [09:52] alienBOB: so.. copy the huge.. [09:52] maybe I didn't, I'm not sure [09:52] Dracie: binutils [09:53] <-- linux lightweight, when I really bork it up I re-install back to a clean system [09:53] thx [09:53] I figured that out pretty fast :) Man it feels good to have a clue about installing linux without dependencies [09:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427952.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:54] alienBOB: any chance of moving the downmsg to the start of the topic? [09:54] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427952.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@74-42-147-104.dsl0.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] Zordrak: I was just thikning about reccomending that too [09:57] guys, I have question: In Slackware 12.0 with v1.3.8 of iptables, I read in man that "pid, sid and command matching are broken on SMP". Question is: what is current situation? [09:57] and one more: this info is about that is broken on SMP machines or -smp kernels? [09:58] when i try a ./configure for bitlbee, it keeps on asking me for glib2-dev I just install glib2 so I am not sure if there is another package that I need [09:59] iptables for -current and 12.2 work fine [09:59] sdc (n=doa@83.212.57.143) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:01] ok, but I'm reading now man in slack 12.2 and thers is no section about --cmd-owner :/ [10:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:05] Dracie: no -dev [10:05] slackware doesn't split stuff up into foo and foo-dev [10:06] ok [10:06] Man I feel silly :) ok how do i check package versions [10:06] Dracie: ls -la /var/log/packages | grep foo [10:06] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [10:06] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dda79ace2331cdc7) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:07] can do the same thing in pkgtool with view cant you? :| [10:07] ok so i should keep note of that :) [10:07] i_is_cat: meh [10:07] i_is_cat: i prefer the manual way [10:07] i think they're both manual [10:07] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c5079613c2fa2b4c) joined ##slackware. [10:08] meh. menus are for wusses [10:09] just do a ls *.tgz >> pkglist before you delete all your goodies [10:09] :O if a menu is for a wuss in your opinion, i'd hate to know what a gui lover would be :O [10:10] rofl [10:10] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:11] hey, give me vlc&konqueror in tty1 and I'll throw X away :) [10:12] (elinks doesnt work on sites like nVidias driver portal) [10:12] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.88.158) joined ##slackware. [10:12] I use firefox 3.5 :D [10:12] Action: Zordrak golf claps [10:15] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.215) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Action: Zordrak is out for the day. Grandad's funeral tomorrow, so will be back on Friday. ttfn [10:16] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) joined ##slackware. [10:18] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Zordrak: I use links on nvidia.com to dowload the linux driver... no problem! [10:22] And vlc works in the console [10:22] oh does it [10:22] thats cool [10:23] cvlc [10:23] does anyone know what the difference between run0 , run1 & run2 of the nvidia binaries? [10:24] maddslacker (n=corey@67.164.227.192) joined ##slackware. [10:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:25] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:25] the README.txt says "The package suffix ('-pkg#') is used to distinguish between packages containing the same driver, but with different precompiled kernel interfaces. The file with the highest package number is suitable for most installations [10:26] losim (n=andrew@144.38.70.37) joined ##slackware. [10:26] but as far as i know, packagers always get the run0 for some reason [10:27] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] ermm s/run/pkg [10:28] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-220.fennfwsm.ou.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:29] What the: USB Lego Infrared Tower support (USB_LEGOTOWER) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) [10:30] ^^ [10:31] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@187.37.48.81) joined ##slackware. [10:32] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [10:36] budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] "y" ;) [10:42] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [10:43] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:44] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] samcarter_ (n=samcarte@92.27.243.233) left irc: Connection timed out [10:46] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] samcarter (n=samcarte@78.146.117.185) joined ##slackware. [10:49] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. 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[11:00] hmm [11:00] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.slackware.org/ [11:00] it looks down for these guys too [11:01] how is that possible? it depends what country u are browsing from? [11:01] krypt (i=krypt@117.200.193.145) joined ##slackware. [11:01] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:02] it's like magic [11:02] what is the script for setting up pppoe dsl connection? pppoe-setup? [11:02] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [11:04] samcarter (n=samcarte@78.146.117.185) left ##slackware. [11:05] tricqster (n=knao@adsl-d56.84-47-31.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:06] gbon121g (n=gib@151.5.148.94) left ##slackware. [11:06] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:07] [11:07] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.88.158) left irc: "Leaving" [11:08] budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left ##slackware. 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[11:25] sahko: the latest nvidia driver I got was pkg2 [11:25] and it works with .30 kernels [11:26] The Realtek 8168 doesn't... I just found out ;-) [11:28] pvn (n=vep2@n552-vep2.bfh.ch) left irc: "Leaving." [11:29] guys, read the topic [11:29] no [11:29] mak me [11:29] ok, read it [11:29] [11:30] (regarding the downtime) [11:30] oh [11:30] well [11:30] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x53587234.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:30] im sure someone's working on it [11:31] it's a conspiracy I tell ya, a conspiracy! [11:33] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Hello [11:33] I have a problem with wicd [11:33] # wicd [11:33] Traceback (most recent call last): [11:33] File "/usr/lib/wicd/wicd-daemon.py", line 55, in [11:33] Channel flood from tty3 -- kicking [11:33] import wicd.wpath as wpath [11:33] tty3 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:33] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [11:34] tty3, did you start the demon? [11:34] /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [11:34] bash: /etc/init.d/wicd: No such file or directory [11:34] WTF?? [11:35] that's not what I said is it [11:35] bash: /etc/rc.d/wicd: No such file or directory [11:35] neither is that [11:35] wicd broke with the last release, I removed mine [11:35] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.51.49) joined ##slackware. [11:35] o0 [11:36] well it works fine with 12.2 [11:36] try /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd [11:36] i'm doing it old school with iwconfig [11:36] hey guys, anyone here has managed to configure chillispot + freeradius [11:36] i'm not running 12.2 [11:36] Im using slack current [11:36] me too [11:36] maddslacker, try /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [11:36] meh [11:36] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] trying [11:36] i have my iwconfig in rc.local until wicd comes back around [11:37] tty3, /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [11:37] Now [11:37] Wok the commands [11:37] and now? :S [11:38] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.227) joined ##slackware. [11:38] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.51.49) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:38] did it start without any error? If so start the gui client [11:38] Show me the error-.- [11:38] what? [11:39] well it may have said 'permission denied' in which case you need to 'chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd' [11:39] I am surprised how long it is taking to bring slackware.com back up [11:39] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [11:39] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [11:39] I'm surprised I'm chatting with a tty [11:39] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [11:39] http://pastebin.com/m7d0449ed [11:39] but that's life [11:39] dive: what hardware? [11:40] erm no man, follow the convo [11:40] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] dive: it happened before I joined [11:40] oh, the nickname [11:40] yeah ;-) [11:40] standard procedure to copy a link from irssi and paste it into firefox : select link, switch to terminal, and type : 'gvim"*p"+yy:q!', switch to firefox and ^T^V ... I hate firefox, it isn't even correct wrt X-copy-paste :) [11:41] all attention returning to work now [11:41] tty3, type this exactly as I put it: '/etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start' [11:41] dive: i wrote your command [11:41] /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [11:41] well that is NOT what the pastebin says [11:41] Starting wicd daemon... [11:41] ok [11:42] now type 'wicd-client' [11:42] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/wicd/wicd-daemon.py", line 55, in [11:43] import wicd.wpath as wpath [11:43] ImportError: No module named wicd.wpath [11:43] WTF?? [11:43] hmm then it's borked somewhere [11:43] told ya ;) [11:43] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x53587234.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:43] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.143.217) joined ##slackware. [11:43] ... [11:43] what it be? [11:44] ib borked [11:44] one sec [11:44] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-74.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:45] hey guys, anyone here has managed to configure chillispot + freeradius [11:48] something else - wicd will not work anyway because of lack of dbus [11:48] unless there's an option for that somewhere [11:48] SM177Y (n=SM177Y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] tty3, but your error looks like you are missing something else [11:49] so the moral of the story is, don't go roaming with -current [11:50] why would my torrent speeds be extremely low in linux but work perfectly in windows? ive used many clients and all are configured properly and the same in both OS's [11:50] Action: acidchild stabs mrselfpwn [11:50] SM177Y: upnp [11:50] try vuze [11:50] i have [11:50] dive: [11:50] wicd is in slackware current /extra [11:50] sucks 2 b u [11:50] ¬¬ [11:50] I use ktorrent and my speeds are comparible to my windows box [11:51] same problem. ive enabled upnp on my router as well and it doesnt make a difference [11:51] i have the proper ports forwarded [11:51] SM177Y, try ktorrent [11:51] i never used to have a problem in linux torrenting. just like the last month or so i can get speeds solid over 20k. where in windows i can get my full download speed of 600ish [11:52] i honestly dont beleive it is the client. ive tried like 4 clients and they all do the same thing [11:52] Action: C_Tux trolls mldonkey for bittorrent [11:52] SM177Y: using wifi to connect? [11:52] SM177Y, I have a 'nix laptop, XP desktop, ktorrent vs utorrent, identical speeds [11:52] C_Tux yes [11:52] which driver/card? [11:52] and yes, I am using separate prot forwards on each on my router [11:53] SM177Y, good point, try this from the linux laptop wifi [11:53] http://www.speedtest.net/ [11:53] WMP300N linksys, ndis for drivers. i do have a native driver that i found but it doesnt work half the time [11:53] also, have you tried plugging in the linux box via ethernet? [11:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:54] no i havent tried hardwiring it to my router [11:54] troubleshooting 101 dude [11:54] and you could check the theorical speed with iwconfig [11:54] yes i know but it works fine in windows. and my speeds in iwconfig are fine [11:55] i am running 2.6.30 kernel if that matters [11:55] yeah but in Linux you are using a windows driver in a wrapper [11:55] I will say it again, you can't balme "linux" until you have ruled out "wireless" [11:55] you have ruled out the client app [11:55] ok [11:55] i will try hardwiring after this torrent on my windows finishes in a few mins :P [11:55] my god! time for a cup o tea [11:56] i'm only sayin gthis cuz I see no almost difference between my boxes, if anything, the 'nix box is a little faster [11:56] bowl of chocolate! [11:57] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [11:57] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.215) left irc: "leaving" [11:57] my torrents always used to work fine in my linux. it has been just recently that it started doing this. the only thing ive really changed/added internet wise would be wicd. but my regular http downloads work just fine and speed tests work just fine also [11:58] wicd is just a config, so shouldn't affect the larger picture [11:58] tried rolling back? [11:58] yeah thats what i figured [11:58] maddslacker: *maybe* it can configure the card differently /me not using wicd [11:58] especially because every other network application works just fine with full speeds. only torrent clients that are sucking [11:59] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-132.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ya i dont really use wicd. i had just installed it to try it out because i was going to put it on my brothers laptop [12:00] i will remove it, but i really dont think thats the problem. nor do i think its wifi drivers since every other internet app works just fine [12:00] Iwas using it, and then two releases ago it stopped working right so I just used it to have the nice icon, then in the last release it broke altogether [12:00] I agree, wicd shouldn't be causing your issue [12:00] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [12:00] what did speedtest show? [12:01] greetings [12:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:01] yo The-Croupier [12:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:01] speed tests work fine. ive already tried that [12:01] also, are you encryption, dht and other settings identical between the two enviros [12:01] C_Tux: hows it going? [12:01] yes, the clients in both environments are configured identically [12:01] The-Croupier: terribly tired but fine, thanks, and you? [12:01] C_Tux: you will always be camarade for me ;) [12:02] not bad...im really tired as well... (differently tired than you i bet ...) but stilll [12:02] The-Croupier: hehe :p btw, wanna me to change back (somebody already asked me to and there is no real reason for the change) [12:03] maddslacker: my problem with the recent wicd update was solved by adding my user to the netdev group. have you tried that? [12:03] I had to run to catch a tramway, I had my heavy laptop in my backpack and it was terribly hot [12:03] the second I reached the tramway, it left ='( [12:03] C_Tux: no...no reason for you to change back..if you dont want to ... that c_ cancels a little the tabcompletion but fine by that ;) [12:03] well im gonna boot back into my linux now and try a couple things [12:04] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-162-58.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:04] C_Tux: lol... that happens... [12:04] SM177Y (n=SM177Y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:04] i usually drive around athens ;) [12:04] that's sad lol [12:04] reallove: tramway [12:04] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:04] The-Croupier: I'm sure the driver did that on purpose, he saw me, waited a bit for me to be sure I run as much as possible and bam! I hate him ='( [12:05] i met some really nice english girls just 10mins ago..but my mom was with me... the only thing i could manage was "are you girls lost? can i help" [12:05] errr, re: tramway [12:05] C_Tux: come on...you know its not true [12:05] lol [12:05] The-Croupier: I'm sure it is! ;p [12:05] C_Tux: make personal, sue him [12:06] report him to someone... get him fired :p [12:06] lol The-Croupier [12:06] The-Croupier: yeah, going to do that, ... one day ;) [12:07] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:07] right... i gotta go... i have only till monday to party cos then im back to work..(gf is off town as well :) ) [12:07] seeyou guys laters [12:07] marchhare (n=marchhar@mobile-166-137-135-048.mycingular.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] C_Tux: thank you boss. have a nice day ;) hope to see you here laters on [12:08] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.88.158) joined ##slackware. [12:08] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [12:09] thats the lamest quit mesage ever. [12:09] laterz The-Croupier [12:09] acidchild: it has been stunning me for about a week now [12:09] Nick change: C_Tux -> Camarade_Tux [12:11] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.32.32.15) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] adeodatus (n=rp@92.82.88.158) left irc: Client Quit [12:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c5079613c2fa2b4c) left irc: [12:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:12] what are you talking about that is such a insightful message [12:12] its opening my eyes [12:13] SM177Y (n=sm177y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] not really... [12:14] if you're not christian, it's silly ;) [12:14] not regarding your opinions and beliefs, it's too long [12:14] it's longer than the average message on that channel actually [12:14] /sarcasm [12:14] Action: Necos stabs marchhare [12:15] Action: Camarade_Tux gives Necos to the police and gets the reward [12:15] Action: marchhare dies [12:15] marchhare (n=marchhar@mobile-166-137-135-048.mycingular.net) left irc: "Get FlowChat for the iPhone and iPod Touch! http://flowchat.me" [12:15] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.88.158) joined ##slackware. [12:16] ok well that is completely retarded [12:16] SM177Y, what? [12:16] i removed wicd and it works fine....makes no sense.. whatever [12:17] try to see the differences in network configuration ; it can't be wicd on its own, but it can be the way it configures the network [12:19] SM177Y, agreed, but, are you using WPA by chance? [12:19] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.88.158) joined ##slackware. [12:19] no [12:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.88.158) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] jumperboy, thanks, netdev fixed it [12:19] i turned off all encryption to try and figure this out [12:19] tty3, what does the output of 'python -V' give? [12:20] SM177Y, only thing I can think of is if you were using WPA, you have to choose a driver in wicd for wpa_supplicant [12:20] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02496.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:20] so it could have been using a wring driver there and working, but poorly [12:20] but even when wicd was installed. i wasnt using it to connect to my router. it was more just a little icon to show that im connected [12:20] SM177Y, same here [12:20] Python 2.6.2 <--- dive [12:20] there's dark magic in there somewhere it would seem [12:21] i have a script i use that configures my network and connects. i didnt actually use wicd after just seeing that it worked [12:21] same here [12:21] since wicd broke a while ago anyhow [12:21] woah [12:22] tty3, how long ago did you update to the latest -current? [12:22] whats this? sm177y kernel: Disabling IRQ #16 [12:22] no dive i don't know update the slackware :S [12:22] maddslacker, do what jumperboy suggested - 'gpasswd -a netdev' then reboot [12:22] wicd will wrk [12:22] dive, why would I do that, all my crap is working?!? [12:22] just popped up in my terminal here where my irc is running. and when that happened my torrent just dropped really bad like before. [12:23] oh, for wicd [12:23] meh [12:23] when I feel like it [12:23] well only if you want wicd ofc [12:23] yeah [12:23] boinks (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-fecffa00-165.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:23] mebbe later [12:23] hi all [12:23] i reboot [12:23] where do i get ndiswrapper to 13 rc [12:23] tty3, -current is the development branch [12:23] SM177Y, could be a wifi card starting to flake out [12:23] stick with 12.2 until 13 comes out and all will be well [12:23] it's the "unstable" branch [12:24] dive: [12:24] for people coming from debian-like environments [12:24] i know [12:24] Waht release version of slackware 12.2? [12:24] lsdev shows irq 16 as ndiswrapper. so its definitely related [12:24] 13.0-rc is pretty solid [12:24] oh, you're using ndiswrapper? [12:24] yeah it is for us but then we know how to update [12:24] i just installed 13 rc [12:25] why not native drivers? [12:25] what card? [12:25] but why would it do that. i know for sure my wifi card is just fine. no flukes or flaws at all in windoze [12:25] bcm43something [12:25] because the native driver sucks balls lol [12:25] it only works when it wants to [12:25] apparently so does ndiswrapper ;) [12:25] what card [12:25] the card would be? [12:25] what model is your card? [12:25] not sure how esle to get he vital info [12:26] well recently yeah. but ive never had a problem with ndiswrapper in years. WMP300N [12:26] hmm, you'd think the linksys would have a solid linux driver [12:27] Action: maddslacker appreciates his intel card that never has issues [12:27] i have the native driver and ive built it on my kernel, but it only works once in a while. like it will show my network interface in ifconfig and iwconfig but i cant configure it. i cant change any options on it in iwconfig. i set options but they dont change [12:27] boinks (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-fecffa00-165.dhcp.inet.fi) left ##slackware. [12:27] Action: Camarade_Tux apprecites his ethernet cable [12:27] and the native driver only recently came out for this card actually [12:27] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] maybe revisit native? [12:27] SM177Y: which kernel are you using ? [12:27] i thought broadcom cards were made by intel? [12:28] or is that another? [12:28] 2.6.30 [12:28] the driver did the same thing on 2.6.27 tho [12:28] dive, not that I am aware of, they are distinctly different on the servers at work at least [12:29] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:29] tty3 (n=tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:29] the first time i used the driver it worked for like a couple hours then it never worked again and ive rebuilt it many times and its installed right and it shows the interface in ifconfig but like i said i cant configure it with iwconfig when using the native driver [12:29] http://www.speedtest.net/result/512930166.png [12:29] i'd try it again [12:29] more troubleshooting [12:29] but that's just me [12:30] ive tried the native driver many times ive already given up on it, it sucks [12:31] have you tried 2.6.30 [12:32] what do you mean? [12:32] im running 2.6.30 right now [12:32] oh, gotcha [12:32] ive tried the driver on 2.6.30 and the default 2.6.27.7 or whatever [12:33] did you by chance blacklist the native driver when yo ran ndiswrapper? [12:33] i already removed the native driver. no need to blacklist [12:33] cool [12:34] clearly something's up with your wifi card, or maybe the pci bus [12:34] you *could* try a differnt pci slot [12:34] sounds like it might be worth nudging the linux-wireless mailing list if you are using the latest kernel [12:35] it's a plot by the RIAA to kill bittorrent, sabotaging the NIC drivers [12:35] lol [12:36] and no actually my wifi card is fine as it works in windows just fine and even works just fine in my linux, until i start trying to torrent in linux, then it starts being dumb [12:37] have you tried limiting the number of conenctions in linux? [12:37] as in? [12:37] on the torrent client? [12:38] as in, you can limit the *number* of connections [12:38] yeah [12:38] reaching now, but worth a look [12:38] there's also qos options in the kernel [12:38] yea ive already tried that [12:38] also, have you researched any firmware updates for the card? again, is a stretch, but worth a look [12:39] or a qos module at ;least [12:39] ive tried many different configurations of the torrent clients [12:39] note to self, don't buy a linksys card for thw 'nix box...stick with intel [12:39] lol [12:39] i didnt buy it so im not complaining [12:39] just for fun, in linux, try utorrent via wine...see if you can reproduce the issue [12:39] that way [12:39] its always worked perfectly, never had any problems [12:40] utorrent is my client of choice :P [12:40] its already up lol [12:40] thats what i always use. windows and linux [12:40] fun stuffs [12:40] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.91) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] i use utorrent in winders, ktorrent in linux [12:41] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] heres some real internet :P its the net at the college i used to go to [12:41] http://www.angelfire.com/games6/smittywork/rapenet.jpg [12:41] http://www.angelfire.com/games6/smittywork/gangfucknet.png [12:42] nice, that's comparable to mine at work [12:42] u see the second one :P over 90 megs lol [12:42] it was ridiculous [12:42] yup [12:42] i had download speeds of 10 megs/sec [12:43] and my roomate could do the same exact thing at the same time as me. it was like limitless lol [12:44] well i gotta go, ill mess with this stupid wifi later. cya [12:44] SM177Y (n=sm177y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "[BX] Ping-pong timeout" [12:44] lol [12:45] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [12:46] well, I'm glad my intel and atheros cards work [12:46] just wish i cold get the damned modem to work [12:47] I haven't used a modem in...years [12:47] I was going to take my T42 to Wales with me to visit a friend who's on dialup [12:48] internal modem seems borked, and what I thought was a serial port isn't [12:48] so looking at either a pcmcia or usb modem [12:48] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) joined ##slackware. [12:48] or weening yourelf off internet for a while [12:48] or nagging him to get broadband [12:49] maddslacker, that's almost what I did, but I wanted him to see Linux at work [12:49] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) left irc: Client Quit [12:50] or taking him and the T42 out for coffee and wifi [12:50] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-132.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:50] lapinours (n=michael@g224124088.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] lakan (n=sdafgas@c-4f667ef6-74736162.cust.telenor.se) joined ##slackware. [12:50] I had mixed feelings re: linux on my old t42 and then t60 [12:50] he's stuck with windows right now. They get infected now and again, and his pc won't even boot anymore unless he unplugs both usb keyboard and mouse [12:50] lapinours (n=michael@e177124161.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:50] I've better luck on various Dells [12:50] is there any unrar for glibc less then 2.4 ?? [12:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.43) joined ##slackware. [12:53] an "unrar?" [12:53] compile it yourself perhaps [12:53] compiling glibc yourself is a bad idea [12:53] doesnt work but i think 3.6 may work [12:54] no I meant unrar [12:54] lapinours (n=michael@e177124161.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:54] unrar 3.6 [12:54] illuz1oN (i=500@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] you know that 'rar' also unrars? [12:55] yes [12:55] ;) [12:55] but rar is also linked dynamically, so that might be a problem if compiled with a newer glibc [12:56] glibc/gcc [12:56] illuz1oN (i=500@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] well you could search the package browser to find a rar package that might work with that version glibc [12:56] think i will install 12.2 soon but have to use unrar now i not at home am in another country without any connection at that comp [12:57] downloading and transfer via usb hehe [12:57] kunal (n=kunal@ppp-124-122-162-96.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [12:57] felling the recession [12:57] so, what are you running at the moment and why doesn't rar/unrar work/compile properly? [12:57] feeling* [12:58] aren't we all kunal [12:58] phone hehe sry [12:58] yes i know. including piratesbay. it just got sold out. [12:58] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:58] I would steer well clear of it [12:58] pb [12:59] PB will get ya in trouble if not careful [12:59] what kind? [13:00] losim (n=andrew@144.38.70.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:00] they are offering to pay mp3 sharers? 'just need your real name and address/bank account details...' [13:00] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:00] oh no. [13:01] i am not that much of a user [13:01] i just like getting classical songs [13:01] that's good to hear [13:02] Action: dive is waiting for the first pb user to get nailed [13:02] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.88.158) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:03] lakan, can't you download the unrar source, transfer via usb, compile on target system? [13:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Greetings everyone. :) [13:04] hi fire|bird [13:04] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.143.217) left irc: "leaving" [13:05] Hi dive, how are you? [13:05] looking for work, but ok apart from that thanks, yourself? [13:05] doing great, thank you. [13:06] same here dive. i am getting a job offer. 300USD a month [13:06] where can i see the current changelog? [13:06] dont know. might just have to take it [13:06] /bin/sh: /home/dive/scripts/changelog: No such file or directory [13:06] hmm nope wrong alias [13:06] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [13:06] thanks fire|bird [13:07] maxote: you're welcome [13:07] alias fail bigtime [13:07] yes! [13:08] dive: Prob is that i have an laptop with slack 11.0 and glibc version 2.3something.And im not at home so im using a usb to get files from another comp. Now i installed a lower version of rar (3.6). That seems to work, (im going to reinstall to 12.2 since upgrading glibc doesent seems to be a good idea.. [13:08] when im comming home hehe [13:10] anyone using qtopia? what its state? I know it has been abandonned but that was only a few months ago. and any slackbuild? =) [13:10] are there issues with k3b on kde4? [13:10] y0 Camarade_Tux [13:11] k3b isn't fully ported to kde4 yet [13:12] really? [13:12] it's been woprking fine for me [13:12] it's still "alpha" state, and kind of hit or miss [13:13] huh [13:13] I haven't noticed any issues [13:13] so anyone think its better to upgrade glibc then to reinstall ? [13:13] no, as you were told yesterday, don't update glibc [13:13] upgrade everything is my advice [13:13] not glibc on its own [13:14] k3b should be linked to kde3-compat [13:14] yo fire|bird :) [13:14] dive : ok thx mate ^^ im a bit slow. Just wanted to make sure.Talk to the pro's first =D [13:14] thx mate [13:14] there is a kde3 version and kde4 version of k3b included with slackware 13 (or, will be); the kde3 version in extra/ if you find the kde4 not working properly [13:14] s [13:15] k3b for kde4 shouldn't be installed [13:15] according to you? [13:15] why not? [13:15] because k3b for kde4 it's not working yet [13:16] it is for me [13:16] did they relink the executables for that? [13:17] k3b, i mean... [13:17] mine works fine..wtf y'all talking about? [13:20] TehsXOR (n=TehsXOR@c-24-126-163-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] slackware.com is up! [13:20] just slow [13:21] why do you keep saying that, when it isn't up? [13:21] i found out that if you just refresh it like 100 times, eventually you will get in [13:21] you're a moron [13:21] now we know why it's taking so long to come back [13:21] user623890 (n=sdjklghs@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] hehe [13:23] user623890 (n=sdjklghs@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:24] bsdmike1 (n=itezzie3@65.88.165.73) joined ##slackware. [13:24] is that all you came here to say TehsXOR ? [13:24] hello [13:24] hi [13:25] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE699A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] yeah, that's what he does thrice` [13:25] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] i see [13:25] i see as well. [13:26] :> [13:26] well k3b works here although there were a few errors in console about foreground color to qcolor failure [13:26] feel the burn [13:26] I just bombed my laptop everyone [13:26] burn? [13:26] tryed to get compiz on it as well [13:26] now X wont start [13:26] :/ [13:26] my muscles are all like on overdrive [13:26] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [13:26] from...? [13:27] blacksheep| check the errorlog [13:27] i dont think i can go back to the gym tonight we try to go every other day [13:27] TehsXOR: how? [13:27] too much coca cola [13:27] and i'm all crazy sore [13:27] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@85.84.197.207) left irc: [13:27] blacksheep| in /var/log/ [13:27] hey nix_chix0r :) [13:27] Necos, hoi [13:27] how goes it? [13:28] it's going alright, around 1 picking my brother up and treating him to lunch he finished his treatment or graduated or something [13:28] you [13:28] Hey Necos [13:29] so this means he's a non recovering alcoholic since he never was to begin with [13:30] if i had to run a special ./configure command (./conf --enable-this) when i run makepkg -p, should i remove the symbolic links? [13:32] bsdmike1: well, how does your configure inputs change that? I don't follow [13:33] http://cpunches.tumblr.com/post/137850532/the-ironkey-challenge-its-been-answered [13:33] thrice`, does symbolic links matter or not? [13:33] I think IronKey is going to let me take a whack at one of their secure flash drives [13:33] and i might be getting 10,000 dollars if i can do it [13:34] bsdmike1: usually, "makepkg -l y -c n package-XX-arch-version.tgz is good [13:35] thrice`, ok, thanks [13:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [13:36] bsdmike1 (n=itezzie3@65.88.165.73) left irc: "Leaving" [13:38] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:40] ok well nobody else thinks its anywhere near as cool as i do. lol. [13:40] lakan (n=sdafgas@c-4f667ef6-74736162.cust.telenor.se) left irc: [13:40] it's cool if you get the cash [13:41] make us proud ;-) [13:41] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE69D2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:43] dive: haha thanks man. im a little nervous, that hardware encryption chip has me bugged. [13:43] im going to be hitting up here and ##linux and ##hardware like mad; it's looking like if they do it i'll have 30 days to crack it [13:43] kunal (n=kunal@ppp-124-122-162-96.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:43] 'what one man can hide, another can reveal.' or words to that effect [13:44] oh yeah [13:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:44] what im most concerned about is getting the epoxy off it's insides without burning out the chip [13:44] csokol (n=csokol@labmap.ime.usp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:44] i have no idea how im going to do that [13:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [13:45] http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=epoxy+resin+solvent&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3D&aq=0&oq=epoxy+resin+solv [13:46] that didn't all paste [13:46] won't most of that stuff eat away at a chip, though? [13:46] short answer epoxy resin solvent [13:46] it's got to be safe for the components [13:47] that might be a problem f they thought about that [13:47] yeah [13:48] shit though i have to go mow the local chinese restaurant's lawn, i told them i'd do it today (haha i know its weird) bbl [13:50] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-68-101.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:52] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] blacksheep| did you find it [13:53] CalgaryConehead (n=jardine@S010600a0c5e3aa5d.cg.shawcable.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [13:53] TehsXOR (n=TehsXOR@c-24-126-163-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:55] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [13:56] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:20] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] gbowden (n=gbowden@88.Red-83-49-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] pder (n=pder@c-68-41-124-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] pder (n=pder@c-68-41-124-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [14:22] pder (n=pder@c-68-41-124-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-168.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] when will slackware.com be up? [14:23] .com = .commercial [14:23] yuk [14:23] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:23] pder: before 13 is released [14:23] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [14:24] pder: We don't know. [14:24] isnt slackware.com the official site? [14:24] pder: yes [14:24] Camarade_Tux: hahaha [14:24] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-3-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] i havent used slackware in a while. does it still require downloading floppy images? [14:25] pder: lol, no :P [14:25] hopefully noobfarm is still up :D [14:26] Slackware is available as CD's and a DVD. You can also do a network install iirc and a USB install. [14:26] Camarade_Tux: you and me both. :) [14:26] Camarade_Tux: it is. :) [14:28] pder (n=pder@c-68-41-124-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] hmmm, bread, ham, cheese, what a healthy dinner :) [14:29] if only I had eggs ='( [14:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427952.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Connection timed out [14:29] Action: fire|bird hands Camarade_Tux a carton of eggs. :) [14:29] Camarade_Tux: actually, that sounds good. :) [14:29] Action: fire|bird is hungry now. :P [14:29] fire|bird: that'd sound even better with an egg ;) [14:29] Camarade_Tux: yeah, it would. [14:30] and it's not exactly bread, more like thin pancakes [14:30] nothing wrong with that. :) [14:30] (crêpes) [14:30] Mmmmmmm [14:30] WindMaker (i=be2b68e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-d239a0a6a982f5ce) joined ##slackware. [14:30] i have a problem [14:30] with lilo [14:30] -> http://pastebin.com/m4069ff2a [14:31] frying pan dirty ='( [14:31] lilo lil [14:31] Camarade_Tux: wash it? :) [14:31] WindMaker (i=be2b68e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-d239a0a6a982f5ce) left ##slackware. [14:31] WindMaker (i=be2b68e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-d239a0a6a982f5ce) joined ##slackware. [14:32] What was the point of that, WindMaker joins, asks a question, then leaves. :P [14:32] sorry [14:32] WindMaker: how do you run lilo? [14:32] haha [14:32] accident [14:32] fire|bird: hard ;) [14:32] jeeze [14:32] 0k im lost my lilo boot when install XP in my laptop [14:32] im run slax livecd [14:32] Camarade_Tux: he's running slax. :) look at the prompt on the pastebin. [14:33] chroot /mnt/hda5 [14:33] Camarade_Tux: hard to wash a pan? You'd rather go without eating? [14:33] hd5 -> partition of my love slack [14:33] im write lilo [14:33] and outpu -> http://pastebin.com/m4069ff2a [14:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [14:35] have any one sucessfully transfered a file with pidgin ? for gtlk [14:35] it seem the other peer rejects the file [14:35] fire|bird: right [14:35] when we start it up [14:36] y0 init[1] [14:36] :S? [14:36] hi fire|bird [14:36] WindMaker: you need to give lilo a few more parameters, use lilo --help and man lilo to find out which ones (I can't remember exactly) [14:36] yo init[1] [14:36] hi Camarade_Tux :) [14:36] :S [14:37] fire|bird: Camarade_Tux did get my question? :) [14:37] s/did/did you/ [14:37] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] u.u [14:38] my lilo die [14:38] xD [14:38] init[1]: /me not use pigeon [14:38] init[1]: yeah, got it. I have transfered stuff successfully with pidgin before. [14:38] with a yahoo client? [14:38] to^ [14:38] init[1]: nope, not yahoo, irc. :) [14:38] sorry [14:39] fire|bird: np , can you suggest smthing .. i mean this is the requriement [14:39] my firend is on windows [14:39] send by e-mail? [14:39] he would like to share some file with me occationally [14:40] Action: WindMaker sad [14:40] kind of dcc [14:40] how recovery my lilo u.u [14:40] and he is so novice that he is too scared to use IRC [14:40] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [14:41] init[1]: If that isn't working, I'd just send as attachements by e-mail. It may not be as instant as file transfer over yahoo/pidgin, but it works. [14:41] A simple java client would do ... [14:41] why is he scared of irc? [14:41] we don't bite....well, not usually. :) [14:41] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] is there a official way to create a slackware package from source one has downloaded? [14:42] no idea .. i asked him to use it... [14:42] dustybin: man makepkg. :) [14:42] ace :D [14:42] dustybin: use template slackbuilds script [14:42] ok thanks :D [14:42] I think there's also src2pkg, but I don't know what all that does or how well it works. [14:42] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-3-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] fire|bird: go it :) i mean about the file thing . [14:43] I've used makepkg with great success in the past, or as init[1] mentioned, make a slackbuild for it. :) [14:43] init[1]: awesome, what was wrong? [14:43] fire|bird: is there any pigding extention that can do DCC sharing? [14:43] pidgin [14:43] i mean not with irc [14:44] Pidgin to pidgin [14:44] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Umm, not sure. Check sbo pidgin plugin pack. I can't remember if there's a dcc thing or not. [14:45] ok.. im checking it .. thank you [14:45] :) [14:45] init[1]: yw [14:45] Hmm, doesn't look like there's anything there for what you need. Checked kopete? :) [14:46] WindMaker: you have a good lilo.conf, right? [14:46] maddslacker (n=corey@67.164.227.192) joined ##slackware. [14:46] slackware.com is back up..for real [14:46] root (n=root@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:46] hello [14:46] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: root -> Guest43788 [14:46] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: Guest43788 -> rootti [14:46] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:47] maddslacker: whoa, awesome. [14:47] I'd bowed down before root :D [14:47] just installed 13rc, and first time ever kde4 [14:47] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [14:47] yeah! [14:47] what is the network manager in kde [14:47] maddslacker: I wonder what the issue was then, that was down a while. [14:47] yeah [14:47] rootti: did you create a user account yet? [14:47] yeah [14:47] it *couldn't* be the OS .. heh [14:47] maddslacker: haha, no, not a chance. :) [14:48] i installed wicd, but it wont work [14:48] some dbus error when launching it [14:48] rootti, bus error? [14:49] fire|bird: slackware13 can be released now ;p [14:49] you need to add your user to netdev group: 'gpasswd -a netdev' [14:49] Camarade_Tux: haha, yeah. [14:49] rootti, then reboot [14:49] unable to contact the wicd daemon due to an access denied error from dbus [14:49] Action: Camarade_Tux stares at the /topic and waits for it to magically change [14:49] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.41.80) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] rootti, you need to add your user to netdev group: 'gpasswd -a netdev' [14:49] oh, will try that [14:49] Camarade_Tux: If only it would. :) [14:49] Camarade_Tux: mi conf is 0k [14:49] rootti: did you read "README.SLACKWARE" in the extra/wicd/ directory? [14:50] no [14:50] read it [14:50] so wicd is the network manager in kde too [14:50] Camarade_Tux: http://pastebin.com/m4a2bb37f check line 13 [14:50] WindMaker: it's on slax's /etc ? [14:50] it's de independent [14:50] Camarade_Tux: im run chroot [14:51] slackware.com is up! [14:51] rootti: Whenever you see a file with the word 'README' in it you should read it. [14:51] Please do not hammer it. The server data is being salvaged [14:51] k antiwire >P [14:51] sir, yes sir :) [14:52] Camarade_Tux: ? [14:52] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-254.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] WindMaker: tried telling lilo which device to install on? [14:56] WindMaker (i=be2b68e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-d239a0a6a982f5ce) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:56] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] ugh, cable modem locked up and locked up my citrix session [14:58] restarting x...bbl [14:58] maddslacker (n=corey@67.164.227.192) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:59] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [15:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [15:01] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [15:03] rootti (n=root@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:05] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-164-227-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.25) joined ##slackware. [15:06] What may be the reason of host slackware.com command displaying this: host: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed [15:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:07] pri4pus: you've typoed or otherwise broken your resolv.conf [15:08] StevenR: But I did nothing to resolv.conf . [15:08] so? [15:09] doesn't mean it can't be broken. could you pastebin it please [15:09] So how could I broke it? [15:09] who knows :) [15:09] One moment please. [15:09] haaa [15:09] vimperator rox [15:09] :D [15:09] hello [15:10] StevenR: Here: http://pastebay.com/28138 [15:10] that's broken [15:10] How do I fix it? [15:11] the "search" line needs something else [15:11] or you could remove it [15:11] And that's it? [15:11] like search foo.com (where foo.com is a domain you want to search) [15:11] yup [15:11] pri4pus: are you using dhcpcd manually or with rc.inet1? [15:11] Right, it works now. [15:12] whoever had the insight in wicd...I did it, it worked, thanks [15:12] StevenR: Thank you! :-) [15:12] antiwire: Thank you but it works now. [15:12] ... [15:12] pri4pus: are you using dhcpcd manually or with rc.inet1? [15:13] antiwire: rc.inet1 . Why? [15:13] pri4pus: You can tell rc.inet1.conf to leave your resolv.conf alone if you add this line to the proper section where X is the section number: DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[X]="yes" [15:13] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [15:13] maddslacker, that would be jumperboy [15:14] it's also in the readme in the /extra/wicd dir [15:14] antiwire: Thank you. [15:14] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-25-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:14] cool [15:14] dive, heh, that would imply I read the readme [15:14] << [15:14] pri4pus: Doing that will let you set your resolv.conf how you want and it will make sure that dhcpcd doesn't change it for you, which looks like what happened to you. [15:14] >> [15:15] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-25-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] antiwire: Nice, and I have found a man page for it. [15:16] Must read man pages before asking. [15:16] :-) [15:16] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.200.233) joined ##slackware. [15:19] So what was all the talk about some 0-day ssh issue? [15:19] I don't see anything about it at openssh.com [15:19] OpenOwn? [15:20] ? [15:20] nvm [15:20] anTraxc (n=augusto@189-041-15-179.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-127-193.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:20] 'OpenOwn' doesn't hit anything relevant in google [15:21] there seems to be a rumour starting about it [15:21] yeah, it's too underground for google [15:21] see if I can find a link [15:21] slackware.com is back !!! \o/ [15:22] yeehaw [15:22] :P [15:23] weeeehooo [15:23] kde1 sorces await! [15:23] sources* [15:24] anTraxc: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6742 [15:24] not anTraxc, antiwire, sorry [15:25] thanks [15:25] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [15:25] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [15:26] hi [15:26] Hello gtl! [15:27] antiwire, http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0028.html [15:27] was a DDos atak... [15:27] it's obviously not just a DoS attack [15:27] at least if that write up is real [15:28] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:28] and to top it off, milw0rm appears to be taking a hit right now [15:28] probably from all the FUD so far [15:28] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-168-104.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-168-104.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-164-227-192.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] antiwire: did you know slackware.com was down because of that flaw actually! run, run, run! :D [15:31] lol [15:31] I was waiting for someone to say that [15:32] sure as hell wasn't going to be me [15:32] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-159-210.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] comrad [15:32] antiwire: I'm sorry it took me so long (4 minutes!), I wasn't looking at irc [15:32] yo jeev [15:33] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:34] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-128-28.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:36] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:36] ew, i turned on the monitor to my sexy slack64 box [15:36] and it's locked up [15:37] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: [15:37] :q [15:37] oops [15:37] NaCl has quit [15:37] fail :) [15:37] Camarade_Tux: nah, he tried and didn't succeed. :) [15:37] anyway, i was gonn airc from it and say "im wasting this box with slackware.. i love slackware but not for desktop" heh [15:38] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left ##slackware (":q!"). [15:38] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Which mail client do slackware users like? Why? [15:38] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:38] I use Thunderbird [15:38] psych0 (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:38] It varies, really. [15:39] Claws-mail [15:39] gotta go, bbl :) [15:39] later Camarade_Tux [15:39] poor jeev [15:39] Thunderbird + Engimail for gpg [15:39] psych0 (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.43) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:40] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x53587213.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:40] What about comand line mail client? [15:40] mutt or alpine [15:41] fire|bird: mutt must be nice then. [15:41] :-) [15:41] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [15:41] pri4pus: heh. It's not bad. I've tried it in the past, but prefer a gui mail client. [15:41] Why? [15:42] Not sure, just always have. It's just personal preference. [15:42] why do you like cli mail clients? [15:42] Understood! [15:42] 9 [15:42] 10 [15:42] :) [15:43] fire|bird: First of all because thei consume less resources. [15:44] One reason I guess I use gui clients is I get html e-mails that aren't text-only friendly. [15:44] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host78-170-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:44] fire|bird: Secondly, because I like cmd (not the microsofts one :-) )! [15:44] haha [15:44] I love the command line too, but somethings I'd just rather use a gui for. :) [15:45] s/somethings/some things/ [15:45] fire|bird: Sorry, I made a mistake. Both of them are on the first place for me. :-) [15:45] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [15:45] :) [15:45] fire|bird: I prefer GUI just for WEB. [15:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [15:46] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [15:46] nothing wrong with that. :) to each their own I say. They all get the job done, just in different ways. [15:46] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:46] heh, that reminds me of the saying "What's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander" :P [15:46] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.200.233) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:47] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware. [15:47] fire|bird: :-) [15:47] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Zosma (n=flat@wbw393lx.student.utwente.nl) left irc: "leaving" [15:47] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [15:48] i'm doing a simple transparent proxy with squid... I did iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 ... and it worked great.. there is just one problem... how can I add the server to this iptables setting? you know.. if someone is using the server as terminal it will block some sites too.. [15:49] fire|bird: I remember me using some GUI programs. After I switched to CLI ones my PC became a lot faster. [15:49] fire|bird: She thanked me! [15:50] :-) [15:50] akSeya: perhaps this article will give you some pointers: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:proxy#the_iptables_firewall [15:51] alienBOB, thanks.. lets do some more reading ;) [15:51] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] netfra (n=francesc@host249-13-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:56] hi everybody [15:57] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:57] wow, so i plugged in the windows drive on the Q8800 or whatever it is, i just took off from slackware [15:57] and raid shows failure lol [15:57] can you people readme? [15:57] yes [15:58] thank you [15:59] alienBOB, nothing new there.. [16:00] akSeya: add explicit iptables rules for your server, _before_ the iptables REDIRECT rule [16:00] dakarn (n=skas@83.224.133.123) joined ##slackware. [16:01] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] fire|bird: Heh, i heard that saying for the first time when i watched all 3 seasons of The IT Crowd. [16:05] i love how i just bought a 4GB usb drive which is just too small for the dvd.iso [16:06] agentc0re|work: :) I can't remember when I first heard it, but I've heard it many times before. [16:06] ever watched the IT crowd? [16:07] agentc0re|work, the IT Crowd? [16:07] look it up on youtube, they've got some great scenes posted there. [16:07] look up IT Crowd anti piracy [16:08] agentc0re|work: no, I've never watched it. Actually, never heard of it tbh. [16:11] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [16:11] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:13] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [16:15] alienBOB, noway.. I tried iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 10.0.0.1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 ... iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.100.254 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 ... .. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i lo -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 ... iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 [16:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.36) joined ##slackware. [16:16] the internet is on eth1.. eth0 is local network.. [16:16] akSeya: what kind of command language is that? "..." [16:17] sorry.. it's not only one command.. [16:17] unixfool (n=OU812@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [16:17] ... is to split [16:17] wah wah wah [16:17] sup [16:17] dakarn (n=skas@83.224.133.123) left irc: "shutdown -h" [16:17] y0 unixfool, how's it going? [16:18] You should explain your original question better. Do you want to server to circumvent this redirect? So that anyone logged onto it, will not go through squid? [16:18] worked on 3 hrs sleep...rough day [16:18] Jean (n=jean@jean.xen.prgmr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] unixfool: ouch, that sucks. [16:18] drank a lot of triple shot lattes [16:18] nope.. even if someone is on the server it must GO through squid [16:19] gonna go eat then get some gaming in, then crash for 12 hrs [16:20] unixfool: at least you have a plan. :) [16:20] -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 --> this works for all workstations but not for server [16:20] Strange requirement for the server. I mean, anyone capable of logging on to the server should be an admin, right? Without restrictions? That is how I would look at it [16:20] alienBOB, nope.. I use LTSP [16:20] Ah [16:20] :) [16:22] akSeya: in that case you should be reading this instead: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:parentalcontrol#the_iptables_rules [16:22] ok ;) [16:22] isn't 3128 SOCKS5? [16:23] No [16:23] SOCKS has no port [16:23] Well 1080 [16:23] here at la high, we used to use a socks proxy... and i remember it having to connect on 3128... [16:24] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.25) left irc: Success [16:24] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.131) joined ##slackware. [16:30] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] SM177Y (n=sm177y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:33] is there some type of notifier for syslog so i dont have to like have a terminal open and wait for something to pop up or always just checking my syslogs? [16:34] Why would you want to continuously check your syslog SM177Y ? [16:34] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] because im working out some problems with my wifi right now and the only way for me to tell when it starts acting up is a syslog line that i get [16:36] i want something that looks for something in the log and emails me [16:36] that'd be hot [16:36] ;D [16:37] well root-tail can display the log tail on desktop [16:37] there is a slackbuild for it I think [16:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:37] or something like conky [16:37] well im on slamd64 with 2.6.30 kernel so id rather compile from source anyways lol [16:38] dive: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/root-tail/ :) [16:39] alienBOB, well.. it's not working yet.. but I need to go now... I believe this howto can solve my problem.. thanks a lot :) [16:40] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:42] new definition of happiness: fluxbox + bbdock in slit + transparent Terminal with no borders [16:42] now I like xfce but this is way snappier [16:43] dive: sounds nice. [16:43] meaning faster to me [16:43] ok well i got root-tail installed. and i ran it like this: root-tail /var/log/syslog and its just sittin there so im assuming its monitoring my syslog now? [16:43] SM177Y: look at fail2ban, it works on any logs and can send you email notifications (among other things) [16:44] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-168-104.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] well i dont really need email notifications but like to play a sound or something would be decent [16:44] SM177Y, it should show some of the log (don't forget you need permissions to read some logs) [16:44] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-168-104.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [16:44] ya im just running root-tail as root [16:45] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-189-173.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef244.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [16:48] anTraxc (n=augusto@189-041-15-179.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [16:49] fire|bird, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/sshots/flux1.png [16:50] dive: that looks really nice. [16:50] so if you dident back up you xorg.conf and you install the nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel from SBo and when you restart it wont load X and wont let you switch into another TTY? [16:50] i can boot off a usb stick [16:50] w/ slack [16:50] slax* [16:50] but what must i do? [16:51] After installing, you switched to the "nvidia" driver in xorg? Also, did you run as root nvidia-switch --nvidia? [16:51] blacksheep, do you boot into runlevel 4? [16:51] dive: yes [16:52] change inittab and restart? [16:52] dive, looks much like osX..somehow %) [16:52] press tab at lilo and type a 1 [16:52] that's the number one [16:52] and it should boot into single user mode [16:52] err, i put grub on the laptop [16:52] :/ [16:52] actualy not worried bout it [16:52] grub?!?!?! WHAT :P [16:52] well there is way to do it with rub [16:52] grub* [16:53] yea for some reason [16:53] rub? hmm my sw needs a rub [16:53] grub loaded alot faster than lilo [16:53] on my laptop [16:53] yes you can do it with grub too [16:53] dive: i think im just gana redo the whole thing and document the project [16:53] i kinda wanted to do that anywaz [16:54] dive: Here's my desktop atm: http://imagebin.org/54952 [16:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:55] fire|bird, is that rainlendar or a widget? And which widget do you use for the weather? [16:55] how do I tell waht version of a probram I have? [16:55] depends on the program [16:55] I remember there being something where you could search a directory to find [16:55] glibc [16:55] xorg [16:55] slackware stores stuff in /var/log/packages [16:55] that may be it [16:55] dive: that's kde4 and it's widgets/plazmoids for the calendar and weather. [16:55] I'll sleep when I'm dead [16:56] fire|bird, I'm looking for a calendar app that can sync with my google calendar [16:56] so if you used a slackware package, ls /var/log/packages/glibc* [16:56] dive: Hmm, there's adesklets, but I don't think the calendar with that syncs with anything. [16:57] I think rainlendar can sync to a server but I don't know whether it works with google [16:57] gonna read up a bit [16:58] dive: http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/usage2.html [16:58] SM177Y (n=sm177y@97-83-145-75.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:59] fia [16:59] ops [16:59] fire|bird, that looks useful thanks [16:59] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-74.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [16:59] looks like, on it's own, rainlendar can sync with google, but you can't edit the calendar unless you have rainlendar pro. [17:00] I think that gcaldaemon will work better. [17:00] netfra (n=francesc@host249-13-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:02] docx98 (n=doc@63.133.128.138) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [17:03] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [17:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:03] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-254.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] mm well I think I will keep m desktop clean after all [17:04] fire|bird: LOL you switch desktops a lot! :P Good looking though. [17:04] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-154-150.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:04] agentc0re|work: :) nothing wrong with changing things up. :) [17:05] Nope, not saying there is. Just being Capt'n Obvious. [17:05] stillborn (n=stillbor@88.193.113.46) joined ##slackware. [17:05] hello [17:05] agentc0re|work: did you notice the slackware logo instead of the kde logo on the panel? [17:05] stillborn: hello [17:05] how to add launcher like ff to panel [17:05] fire|bird: yup. nice touch. [17:05] in kde [17:06] stillborn: in the kde menu, you can right click FF and click Add to Panel [17:06] if i right click it just opens ff [17:06] o0 [17:06] stillborn: ah, kde 3.5 then? [17:07] nope [17:07] or kde setup with mouse properties like in MAC. [17:07] 13rc [17:07] 4.2.2 [17:07] stillborn: Hmm, that works for me here. btw, kde in 13rc is 4.2.4 [17:07] plain install [17:07] yeah,,4.2.4 [17:07] perhaps it's doing strange things with your mouse? [17:07] you know when you first run KDE and it goes through that wizard and you can pick the way how the mouse behaves? [17:08] this is synaptics [17:08] pad [17:08] isn't there an option to set it up like a mac so it works off a single click? [17:08] agentc0re|work: You don't get that in kde4 though. At least I never have. [17:08] oh [17:08] agentc0re|work: yeah, that's the default. single click [17:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [17:08] i would check your CP for mouse options and figure out WTF. [17:08] in some cases single click is great, others, annoying. :) [17:08] how configure Lguest to use 2 NICs instead of 1 ? [17:09] i used xfce 4 years [17:09] thought kde is now evolved [17:09] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@187.37.48.81) left irc: "fui cervejas" [17:09] but first thing u do is add launchers [17:09] i am still using xfce :) i haven't used kde in a while. [17:09] still no go [17:09] stillborn: check in System Settings --> Keyboard & Mouse --> Mouse. Maybe some setting isn't right for it to work. [17:10] checking now [17:10] ok [17:10] single click on files... is on [17:11] no probs here [17:11] Rielo (n=fffeop@adsl124-133.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:12] hahaa [17:12] find the bug [17:12] i was using classic menu [17:12] with new menu it works [17:12] Oh, no wonder. It doesn't work with classic. :P [17:12] After I press ENTER on Lilo's book, there is a moment in which it sais "Loading the kernel" and some dots fill in the place. This used to go muuuuch faster but now it's slow. Any ideas why? [17:13] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:13] huge kernel? [17:13] damn facebook... one of my old friends sent a link , i joined to check in on them and i had to sign-up.. i have avoided these sies like the plague until now.. now i can't delete the account. this new wave of "myspace/facebook/twitter" is the stupidest crap I have ever seen. fltter twitter my ass youbook.. . what has happened to the INET? rant complete. [17:13] one should think that classic is more reliable [17:14] Set "compact" in lilo.conf, then rerun lilo, then reboot ... [17:14] dive I have always used the hugesmp kernel [17:14] :P [17:14] Rielo [17:14] oh, yes good idea Pa^2 [17:14] y0 dtanner. haha, I agree with you there. :P [17:14] dtanner: Ya, i don't mind signing up for crap but why can't i delete my account if i am done with it? That pisses me off more than anything. [17:15] I used to have a little prog that sniffed/scrapped jpgs from ip segment and displayed them in window. any one remember the name of the prog? [17:15] agentc0re|work: yeah, they make you sign up, then they are in control, you can't remove it at all. I hate too, sites that need a dang near entire life history just to make an account. [17:16] You could always violate their terms and agreements.. That'd probably throw you in the delete pile. [17:16] Drift-something? [17:16] probably so they can tell their advertisers we have x amount of users when they really have much less, [17:16] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Pig_Pen: and, some anyway, to sell you're info to their affiliates :) [17:16] Pa^2 it worked like a charm, thanks :) [17:16] Glad to hear it. [17:16] Pa^2: driftnet [17:17] it's up at SBo [17:17] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] antiwire, Thank you.... [17:17] never use your real name & address at those websites, use a dead movie star's name or something like Chuck U, Farley [17:17] k, now all works [17:17] SBo? [17:17] slackbuilds.org [17:17] slackbuilds.org [17:17] Pa^2: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/driftnet/ [17:17] ty [17:17] there is a build script available already, just ot save some time [17:17] thank you antiwire for wicd probs [17:17] :) [17:17] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-220.fennfwsm.ou.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] stillborn: You're welcome but I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. I never suggest wicd [17:18] u said gpassword [17:18] How long ago? [17:18] It wasn't me [17:18] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [17:18] long enough you can't remember? :) [17:18] :P [17:19] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.131) left irc: Success [17:19] well i thought it was u, but atleast someone [17:19] I suggested that someone read the wicd readme but that was it [17:19] :D [17:19] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.158) joined ##slackware. [17:20] can I find out which processes are using disk i/o ? [17:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:21] Rielo (n=fffeop@adsl124-133.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [17:23] troy (n=runrau@euskadi.es.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:23] rworkman: ping [17:23] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "brb" [17:23] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:24] rworkman: are you planning to do unofficial KDE 4.3.0 packages, or does that all wait until 13.0 is released? [17:25] kde 4.3.0 will be a little invasive, as it will want policykit integration :( [17:25] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] troy: yeah, those are going to have to wait due to the polkit infringement. [17:26] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [17:26] It would wait until 13.0 is out either way, but in light of the polkit crap, it might be longer :/ [17:28] rworkman: polkit infringement? [17:28] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:28] troy: we don't have PolicyKit. KDE-4.3.x needs PolicyKit. [17:28] rworkman: ah, and polkit needs to be made to work on slack... [17:28] so guys...I know oda and I have worked a lot on PAM...you know if Slackware goes for polkit you might as well ...you know.. [17:29] yep. :/ [17:29] ;) [17:29] antiwire: that "yep" was not to you. [17:29] lol [17:29] ok so I install the ATI drivers from there site, and while I have a nice 1440x900 res, the windows jump horribly [17:29] while they're at it~ [17:29] gnome too [17:29] haha [17:29] How about a great big "suck me" while you're at it? ;-) [17:30] rworkman: any word on how big of a problem the polkit integration presents? [17:30] thomasj (n=thomasj@fedora/thomasj) left ##slackware. [17:30] troy: well, I'm honestly not sure yet. pm? [17:30] okay [17:31] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] giant81_: sucks to be you >.> [17:33] colonel_panic (n=trip@ip72-198-122-202.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Necos, yes, yes it does. I'm working google but haven't found much interesting yet [17:33] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:33] troy (n=runrau@euskadi.es.uwo.ca) left ##slackware. [17:33] I see alot of people having problems getting it installed, but I'm under the impression since I have the 1440X900 res that it's installed correctly [17:33] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:34] modprobe -l | grep fglrx shows it's loaded [17:34] Nick change: dchmelik -> d4rwin [17:35] I think hal i sborked [17:35] is* [17:35] colonel_panic (n=trip@ip72-198-122-202.ok.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:36] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.25) joined ##slackware. [17:36] moonhead (n=trip@ip72-198-122-202.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Xfce complains about not having HAL when I try to suspend (pm-suspend works). I just plugged in an sd card and got this: http://john.bitsurge.net/public/Screenshot-47.png [17:38] Also can't mount usb drives [17:38] elsheepo (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] yo [17:38] just checkin out irssi [17:38] hiptobecubic: probably groups related (power and plugdev) [17:39] Dracie (n=dracie@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:39] thrice`, i'll check it. thank you [17:39] elsheepo (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [17:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:41] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: [17:43] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [17:43] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:44] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] i sure like that terminus font for the console at SBo [17:45] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [17:46] esbjorn (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] hi all [17:51] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [17:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] esbjorn (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] thumbs, well i can mount things now... but wicd says it doesn't have permission to use dbus [17:56] thumbs, sorry. thrice` ^ [17:56] are you on -current ? [17:56] hiptobecubic: are you in the netdev group? [17:56] (only on -current) [17:58] yes i'm on current [17:58] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [17:58] no netdev... either. sheesh [17:59] logging out.... [17:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:00] stillborn (n=stillbor@88.193.113.46) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:00] greetings [18:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] wicd still complains :-/ [18:01] is the wicd daemon running? [18:01] hiptobecubic, you might need to reboot ater adding to netdev group [18:01] no, you don't [18:02] I restarted dbus no g [18:02] go [18:02] hiptobecubic: did you /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start ? [18:02] thrice`, yes wicd daemon is running. [18:02] restarted hal and udev still no go [18:02] wicd is saying that it doesn't have permission [18:02] rebooted worked for me [18:02] you mean the client ? [18:02] a reboot will work, but you don't need to [18:02] the client complains that it doesn't have dbus permission, yes [18:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:02] I dislike old, heavy CRT's [18:03] but they can be had for free <=) [18:03] did you rc.messagebus reload after installing wicd ? [18:03] hiptobecubic: i had to reboot after adding myself to netdev (simply logging out/in didn't work) [18:03] then you did it wrong [18:03] thrice` is right, you shouldn't have to, but that's what worked for me [18:03] I just installed wicd, did "gpasswd -a ajb netdev", logged out / in and it worked [18:04] hiptobecubic: does "pgrep wicd" return anything? [18:04] well it didn't work here either [18:04] thrice`, well it's restarting. the keyboard and mouse froze when i did rc.messagebus reload so i pusshed the power button and it shut down. [18:05] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [18:05] if dbus complains, it means that it doesn't know what wicd is, or that it knows what wicd is, and says that you're not allowed [18:05] the former is solved by reloading the messagebus rules, the latter by adding yourself to the group for permission [18:05] illuz1oN (i=500@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] thrice`, good to know. thank you [18:06] Has anyone setup an AP using ath5k under2.6.31-rc* yet? [18:06] thrice`, yes things seem to be working.... [18:07] you must have needed to reload messagebus, then [18:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." 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[19:14] ^^ ^obvious meaningless babble [19:14] you young pups would not know that song or group [19:15] Action: dtanner smashes PolicyKit against a brick wall [19:15] Action: VampirePenguin stomps on the rubble [19:15] ty [19:15] im with ya there [19:16] i hate it [19:16] why should i have to set my groups and perms 2x [19:16] i am getting an error from dbus when policykit tried to aumount for a granted user on specified devices. [19:16] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] well i just rebuilt this bo so the post abouve about composting with the effects are my ownnly hiccup ... policykit if it son here with -current is behaving [19:17] the idea is ... [19:17] It provides the capability for non-privileged processes to communicate with privileged ones. In contrast to systems like sudo, it does not grant root permission to an entire process, but rather allows a finer level of control [19:18] from the wiki [19:18] so its a process selinux [19:18] should just use it [19:18] yeah [19:18] but all the dependencies must agree , specifically dbus/hal [19:19] which is starting to give me a headache [19:19] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:20] worked good for me for removeable media such as (digi cams etc) after granting a user access but when it comes to the cdrom/dvd devices it is choking [19:20] i dont know ... i havent tried but can policykit all by itself be removed [19:20] no, the hal it is built aginst will barf [19:20] or something like that [19:21] let me remember [19:21] that sux [19:21] hmm i removed policykit and hal barfed [19:21] so its like mono.. its got a hole [19:21] yeah that is it [19:21] d [19:21] well at least you dont have to deal with pam on top of it.. its nice that pat doesnt use it [19:22] yeah, I am glad slack doesn't have PAM [19:22] PAM is required for many of the more advanced authentication mechanisms [19:22] i had a problem wit hmy eee burning with brasero [19:22] but when i burnt th iso on a terminal it worked like acharm and fast [19:23] brasero has been buggy for me on some versions [19:23] i just use cdrecord most of the time, it always works [19:23] i thinkk /etc overall is a prety good advanced authentication mech [19:23] k3b is pretty damn good for a gui burner [19:24] VampirePenguin: agreed [19:24] 3 layers to do the same thing and theres going to be conflicts [19:24] you should see all the bugs listed with the implentation of policykit+Pam in other distros [19:24] well on the cli i used dvd+rw-tools [19:24] that too [19:24] was flawless [19:24] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] i still use cds from time to time though and am so used to cdrecord. with dvds i use dvd tools [19:25] well if you want to use the big server edition of vmware.. the free one you have to have pam [19:25] vbox does the trick for me [19:26] as im learning how and why to build apps... using simple one/two liners to do things in cli is so much more efficent [19:26] http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/eula/pro.mspx [19:26] ^ lol [19:26] vbox has bit me in the ass numerous times [19:26] im on qemu [19:27] lol test [19:27] hehe [19:27] lolisghey [19:27] hey nooper [19:27] hey VampirePenguin [19:27] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@hbge-216-37-227-223.dsl.hbge.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/2599/attempt-an-xss-exploit-on-commandlinefu.com [19:28] look at the comments [19:28] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:29] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x503e7ad1.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:32] anyone know why compositing woould be slow for kde4... do i use glx [19:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "2+2=5. You better believe it." [19:33] VampirePenguin, according to 'top' what cpu and mem usage is X hogging? [19:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [19:33] Rielo (n=alek@adsl66-191.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Has anyone managed to run ddclient with ssl enabled? [19:34] how does one write the usbboot.img to an USB flash drive? I run Windows Vista and everything program that handles the IMG format [19:35] and every program* [19:35] listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_(file_format)#Support_and_development [19:35] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.31.1) left irc: Success [19:35] seems to apply to floppy drives only [19:35] there should be a howot on thast somewhere , i have never done it myself. check in the root slackware*/ dir [19:35] or isolinux/ [19:35] 3% mem/5%cpu [19:36] VampirePenguin, it's about that here [19:36] and i'm on Xfce [19:36] (slackware64 13.0 rc1 [19:36] ) [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] ya but compositng keeps shutting down bc it says its moving too slow.. right now i cant start it again without killin the whole sesson [19:37] dissociative (n=alejo@190.71.60.59) left irc: "leaving" [19:37] VampirePenguin, what are your simplified system specs? [19:37] TwinReverb, do you use glx [19:38] oh detail wise... intel vid 945, running -current, 3gb ram [19:38] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) joined ##slackware. [19:39] VampirePenguin, this is slackware 13.0 rc1, hardware accel is enabled [19:39] what processors? [19:39] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [19:39] intel [19:39] ya its current... it shos as 13 [19:39] >,< [19:40] uh, speed? # cores / processors ? [19:40] one sec this is easier [19:40] you could've just said "core 2 duo 1.6GHz" etc [19:41] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:41] hey chopp [19:41] http://pastie.org/539407 [19:41] TwinReverb, ^^ [19:41] hey dtanner :) [19:42] VampirePenguin, ok, your system seems about on par with mine [19:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] maybe you should look into configuring kde and/or compiz. granted, i run Xfce with compositing enabled and I have no problems [19:42] but i may opt later to disable it simply because it's just for looks [19:42] for looks = wastes battery power (laptop) [19:43] vqt932 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] Nick change: vqt932 -> yga361 [19:44] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [19:44] well this is kde 4.. it basically has its own compiz but its not compiz [19:44] and it really doesnt make any notieable mem/cpu usage jumps/spikes [19:45] silly kde [19:45] well my sound don't work with pidgin either so i'm having some fun i guess [19:47] my sound has been flakey since i started running kernel 2.6.29.4 , never had a sound issue with 2.6.27.7. i have been thinking about rebuilding alsa against the kernel which i should probably have done anyway. I know that years ago alsa had to be rebuilt on a kernel change. [19:47] i don't understand how xine works with audio without any config but i can't get pidgin, xmms, and audacious to work regardless of how much i config [19:47] but that was before it was included in the kernel [19:49] i didn't have any sound problems until 13.0 -rc1 [19:49] there is a buddy in #nlug who is replacing his quido sys with the new oss4 [19:50] i have a crappy onboard sound chip too: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition [19:50] i have the intel high def and it works fine thus far [19:50] his use sn_intel i think [19:50] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.72.191) joined ##slackware. [19:51] i used 2.6.29.4 for a while too, something was funny/wierd about that kernel, so i built the latest 2.6.27.xx kernel since slack-12.2 came with a 2.6.27.x kernel [19:51] mine has been just "not working all of a sudden" at random times for random users. at that point i have to unload and reload the sound modules. [19:51] anyone have any luck building ati's fglrx kern module v9.6 on slack64-current ? [19:52] 2.6.27.26 [19:52] wow, building unstable drivers on a technically unstable OS [19:52] if you can get that to work properly, i'll call you elite [19:52] l8rs [19:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-178-134.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] i think i am going to build 2.6.30.1 [19:53] how do I write usbboot.img to an USB flash drive if I run Vista? [19:53] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:53] I tried the following tools: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_(file_format)#Support_and_development [19:53] lamenick: this isn't #Vista [19:53] but all seem to apply to floppy drives only [19:53] Rielo (n=alek@adsl66-191.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "brb" [19:53] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-34.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] you're right, but usbboot.img contains the Slackware installer, so I'm not exactly out of place here [19:55] lamenick: you use something like winimage and call it a day [19:55] next! [19:55] Action: dtanner smacks Necos around. [19:55] just for the hell of it [19:56] Action: Necos stabs dtanner [19:56] thank you, Necos [19:56] just for the hell of it [19:56] you are so violent [19:56] you started it :) [19:56] =0 [19:58] y0 dtanner [19:58] hey Necos [19:59] heya fire|bird :) [20:01] hello fire|bird [20:01] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) left irc: Connection timed out [20:02] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] having a cigar and coffee here and taking a break before i delve into PolicyKit... again. [20:02] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:02] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:02] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [20:02] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-211-45.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:03] stab it repeatedly [20:03] Necos: what....do you get a wholesale rate on knives? good grief you stab a lot of things. :P [20:03] I will [20:03] he stabbed me earlier. [20:04] dtanner: not bad I hope. [20:04] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:04] just a flesh wound [20:04] ah, good. nothing serious then. [20:04] nah [20:04] i went back to fetchmail+pine fire|bird [20:04] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:04] tired of the guiness. [20:04] back to my roots [20:05] really? working well I assume. [20:05] Hi ppl :) [20:05] y0 gar0t0 [20:05] of course [20:05] I'm here [20:05] :D [20:05] hello, im Johnny Cash [20:05] fire|bird: :) [20:05] dtanner: I tried getting alpine working with my imap, but it just wouldn't work. [20:05] Pig_Pen: I'm smeagoul [20:05] Pig_Pen: pic or it isn't true. :P [20:05] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:05] fire|bird: you probably needed to be running sendmail to get yours working right. seems as if you were having problems [20:05] :D [20:05] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] icarus_ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-140-171.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] dtanner: possibly. It wouldn't even see/read my imap mail though. [20:06] brb [20:06] fire|bird: what i did for alpine was a created a user account on slackware with the same username as my email's username, it sure made things work for me [20:06] imap has always worked for me with fetchmail / sendmail and pine [20:06] icarus_ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-140-171.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] it only needs to know the proto=imap and it works. [20:07] so i just log in to that account when i want to check email [20:07] dtanner: Hmm, odd. I could never get it going. [20:07] dtanner: I'll have to mess with it some more I guess. [20:07] dtanner: but, my imap is dovecot, does that make a difference? [20:07] alpine's config is not very intuitive thats for sure [20:08] Pig_Pen: no, it could be better, but, could be worse as well. [20:08] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [20:08] stabbing is a great way to solve conflict :) [20:08] fact [20:09] Necos: and a great way to get to prison in a car with lights on the top. ;) [20:09] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [20:09] it is possible fire|bird,. there is an imap package in /n when i built alpine from source using slackware's slackbuild it built two packages, that was part of what caused me problems that imap package should have been merged in to alpine as a single package since they come out of the same source package [20:09] just start sendmail and run 'fetchmail -v -p pop3 -u username server' and it should pop it into /var/spool/mail/$USER then when you run pine it pulls it to /home/$USER/mail [20:10] or '-p imap' [20:10] of course -v is just verbose [20:11] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:12] dtanner: I can give that a try. What I have now is mpop (from SBo) getting the mail and storing it in Maildir in my /home. Then, I have dovecot set to look to ~/Maildir and allow my to connect with e-mail clients to view that mail. [20:12] s/my/me/ [20:14] fire|bird: i don't use dovecot.. but you should be able to use any imap client to grab frolm an imap server.. that is the whole point. it will keep mail on the server. [20:14] dtanner: yeah, should be able to. I'll work with alpine more and see if I can get it figured out. [20:15] when you run alpine it defaults to look in /var/spool/mail/$USER [20:15] but that should be able to be changed, right? [20:16] should be.. i never tried to change it. [20:17] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE699A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [20:17] blacksheep (n=blackshe@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:17] fire|bird: /etc/pine.conf -> # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox [20:18] # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). [20:18] inbox-path= [20:18] Pig_Pen: Was there a reason you built alpine yourself? Because it didn't work otherwise, or what? [20:18] dtanner: cool, thanks. [20:18] set that to whatever you want. [20:18] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:18] good morning/evening/night :-) [20:18] good evening macavity [20:19] mornin [20:19] how are you? [20:19] Kaapa (n=Somethin@85.243.164.61) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:19] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:19] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) joined ##slackware. [20:19] i did not realise that imap package was part of alpine, i take a minimumalist approach to slackware = if i dont need it i dont install it, if i knew that imap package was part of alpine i would have installed it [20:19] Pig_Pen: you mean imapd? I have both alpine and imapd installed. [20:19] yeah [20:20] # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox [20:20] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path [20:20] incoming-folders= [20:20] fire|bird: i'm good, you? [20:20] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:21] try it, go get all the files out of slackware-12.2/source/n/alpine/* and build it, you will get two packages = alpine and imapd [20:21] Thats the problem with minimal installs, unless you spends lots of time working it out you never know just what all you need. [20:21] XGizzmo_: yup [20:21] unless you have done it a lot of times [20:21] macavity: doing great, thanks. I've been using konqueror as a browser today, trying it out. It's actually really nice. [20:21] that alpine was the first time i had a problem with the method i use [20:22] /topic can be updated.. slackware.com is back [20:22] i hate the kitchen sink approach to Linux, i dont go installing "everything" even if i do have the disk space for it [20:23] and never! say "never" [20:23] Pig_Pen: then you are probably looking for a distro with automatic dependency resolution [20:23] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:24] no, hell no, then i am at the mercy of what someone else thinks i need [20:25] you can configure debian to only suggest the hard dependencies [20:25] that is, those you whould have no way around in slackware either [20:25] fuck debian, that is one of the most annoying distros ever! [20:26] oh no.. not *nearly* as annoying at red hate deriatives :P [20:26] i would go the other direction from slackware and go with something like Crux [20:26] Arch would be nice if the devs werent on bleeding-edge-crack all the time :P [20:26] both are annoying, deb & rpm based distros [20:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:27] dtanner: editing /etc/pine.conf seemed to work. [20:28] some evil genius needs to fork alpine and make it better, remove the cruft and streamline the code and config [20:28] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:28] ohhai (n=eva00@187.3.2.93) joined ##slackware. [20:29] fire|bird: good [20:29] dtanner: thanks [20:30] np [20:30] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:31] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.72.191) left irc: "Leaving" [20:31] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [20:32] anyone ever hear a whipperwill? its a bird that has a weird call and only does it at night [20:33] i have [20:33] crazy sounding bird [20:34] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:36] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-34.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:36] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-54.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [20:36] i guess i am a whipperwill of sorts then :P [20:37] you ever hear that bird macavity ? [20:37] check youtube i bet somebody has a recording of it [20:37] i wouldnt know.. as i havent gotten the slightest idea what its name is in Danish [20:37] okies [20:38] i hear those birds every night, thanks those crazy birds i cant sleep with the windows open [20:39] Pig_Pen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0xpAYUNaDg [20:39] I've never heard a whipperwill, but I've heard of the whipperwill. [20:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXnnfg1CepE here is one [20:40] fire|bird: that's the one i am watching too [20:41] Pig_Pen: ive heard birds that sound crasier than that :P [20:41] a loon is another weird bird, but there are no loons here where i live [20:42] maybe you're a loon :-| [20:42] loony maybe [20:42] can people deside on how to spell that? [20:42] whipperwill or whipporwill (both work i guess) [20:43] yes [20:43] it's actually: whippoorwill [20:43] i think it is fucked up when they allow two way of spelling the same word [20:44] in Danish noone can apparently spell "mayonnaise" so they allowed the phonetic varsion "majonæse" [20:44] the a and e are having sex [20:45] yes [20:45] old latin letter not used in many lanugages today [20:45] what letter comes out of relations between the a and e? :P [20:46] the same sound that you find in steak [20:46] unless you are one of the boneheads who pronounce that "steek" [20:46] mayo is easy to make from scratch, put an egg in a blender, add some lemon juice and salt, and while it is blending pour in about a cup of vegetable oil very slowly [20:47] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Action: macavity mutters something about blenders and blasphemy [20:47] and no.. not lemon juice please.. a good white wine vinegar [20:48] that will work too [20:48] or apple cider vinegar [20:48] no, that will become mayo :P [20:48] everything else is just an approximation [20:48] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-74.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:49] technically you need to boil the vinegar with a little estragon first [20:49] say, what fs do i use and what folders should i put to a partition to install slack from it? [20:49] macavity: I'm still using dvorak today. I'm a little faster. :P [20:49] hrm.. [20:50] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] anyone confirm that pear with php 5.2.10 is borked? [20:50] john_dee: depends.. is it a workstation? [20:51] macavity: yes. i'll boot from usb stick and install packages from a partition because my laptop optical drive refuses to write dvd-rws :[ [20:51] john_dee: id say 10GB / and the rest for /home [20:51] john_dee: jfs works nicely for me [20:52] john_dee: its doesnt use very much CPU compared to ext3, and by my counts it is just as fast (and faster when it comes to smaller files, like source files) [20:53] Dominian: Zordrak was talking about that last night I think. one sec while I grep the lgos [20:53] BP{k}: you haz no glos! :P [20:53] *lgos [20:53] .. ok that kinda killed the joke :-/ [20:53] lol [20:53] macavity: fail [20:53] i would agree with 10G / if you are going to put /usr on a separate partition. especially if you are going to install a lot of software. [20:54] fire|bird: do you have a failcloth i can wipe my tears in? :P [20:54] yeah i have about 10 G for / and the rest is a LUKS with LVM2 for swap and /home [20:54] my / is 6.1 G with slackware64-13.0-rc1 and open office installed [20:54] (FULL install) [20:54] macavity: hahaha, no, can't say that I do. [20:54] BP{k}: I just confirmed it [20:55] dont forget to leave some gigs accounted for in /tmp [20:55] BP{k}: downgrade on 12.2 from 5.2.10 to 5.2.8.. works.. go to 5.2.9.. still works.. go to 5.2.10.. crashes [20:55] that only leaves 3.9G for software installation. [20:55] macavity, gigs? dang what are you putting in /tmp? lol [20:56] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-54.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [20:56] er well nevermind i know what that could end up being (like .iso files) [20:56] macavity: tnx. i think you misunderstood me :) i'm asking how do i install from a partition on a hard drive? there's such option in the installer. but what kind of partition should that be. and can i just copy contents of the disc for the installer to find it? [20:56] http://pastebin.com/d556de36 my disk partition scheme, i have one gig for / [20:56] TwinReverb: sbopkg doesnt clean up on its own.. so i just make sure to clean it out once in a while [20:56] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:56] true [20:56] but the user can (rm -Rf /tmp/SBo) [20:57] i like my /tmp like i like my women: clean 8-) [20:57] you better keep an eye on /tmp and /var if you do your disk like mine [20:57] john_dee: i *belive* you can have it on any partition.. the installer will probably just ask you where it is and mount it [20:57] john_dee: if it doesnt, you will have to mount it by hand [20:57] you can enable compression of rotated log files too [20:58] you can also create cron jobs for deleting those log files if you want [20:58] i usually don't need more than a month of logs [20:58] john_dee: i would make a 10GB partition, and a big one to hold the packages [20:58] some people may need more due to running a server, etc [20:58] john_dee: then you can install *from* the big one, and then when you have the system booted, you can wipe it and edit fstab to point /home to it [20:59] brillient! [21:00] i know.. im the one who said it :P [21:00] brilliant [21:00] i keep a /home/slackware-current and /home/slackware64-current [21:00] and a /home/root/packages for custom built packages [21:01] speaking of which, anyone want 64 bit open office for slackware64-13.0-rc1 ? 8-) [21:01] no :P [21:01] no thanks [21:01] oh well, l8rs 8-) [21:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [21:01] and when the time comes i will roll my own :P [21:01] Action: BP{k} grins [21:01] macavity++ [21:01] what is that boy on?!? [21:02] sacremental wine? ;) [21:02] Action: macavity splutters coffee all over the table [21:03] john_dee: did my instructions get lost in all the redundant noise? [21:04] macavity: no. they reached the destination :D thnx [21:05] and my inability to formulate clear instructions did not throw you off? [21:05] preparing a boot usb now [21:05] ok, do you expect to suspend2disk? [21:05] aka "hibernate" [21:06] macavity: that'd be nice but i never got it working [21:06] it either doesn't go to sleep or never wakes up :\ [21:06] are you installing 13rc1 or 12.2? [21:06] rc1 [21:06] in any case, a swap the size of your RAM is needed [21:06] intel graphics? [21:06] nvidia [21:06] Action: macavity backs off [21:07] %) [21:07] i'm a little addicted to games [21:07] i dont know how nvidia's propietrary poison handles hibernation [21:07] can't be helped :) [21:07] homecable (i=open@206.225.143.78) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:07] but every other part of slackware13 is "hibernation ready" [21:08] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-140-219.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:08] hmm, it may be the case. nice tip. i don't remember trying it without their "drivers" [21:09] slackware.com is back up [21:09] WEEEE [21:09] o_O [21:10] homecable (i=open@206.225.143.78) joined ##slackware. [21:10] stnmrshx_ (n=stnmrshx@host227d.hades.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:10] ok, lets DoS it with happy requests :P [21:10] lol [21:10] yup, has been for a good part of the day [21:10] rworkman: news? we can haz the news? is there anything you know that we dont? haz you been told anything lately that should be relayed to us? [21:11] rworkman: *blink-blink*... please? [21:11] macavity: alienBOB mentioned earlier today to not bombard it, they were still salvaging stuff. [21:11] Action: macavity shoots his browser with a nine milli [21:11] ha.. that will teach it not to annoy slackware.com! [21:12] fire|bird: kkthxbai :-) [21:12] macavity: you shot konqeuror? :P [21:12] macavity: haha [21:12] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [21:12] hey.. it was disobeying orders! [21:13] user623890 (n=sdjklghs@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] here there is only one cure of treason! [21:13] *for [21:13] so you're saying I shouldn't point my 100000 strong botnet at slackware.com [21:13] macavity: that sounds more like a user issue. ;) [21:14] aceofspades19: not if you know what is good for you, no :P [21:14] aceofspades19: nope, I would say not. :) [21:14] kitche (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [21:14] aceofspades19: slackers tend to hold a grudge for a *long* time.. just ask chris punches :P [21:14] crhis punches? [21:14] My DSL modem, crappy firmware I guess, doesn't give a netmask with the IP address it assigns via DHCP. My new ISP, being in "class A", causes dhcpcd to assume a /8. I don't see any way to override this in TFM. Am I missing it? [21:15] aceofspades19: search for it him on noobfarm [21:15] aceofspades19: or check out his alternative nick now a days: dartmouth [21:16] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-74.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [21:16] http://noobfarm.org/?query=dartmouth [21:16] there isn't much there [21:17] aceofspades19: ok, the top one actually says quite abit about how hard we have bashed him... [21:17] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:17] what did he do? [21:17] aceofspades19: http://noobfarm.org/?query=cpunches [21:17] macavity: I solved my kmail issue. Just a weird folder issue; it all works now. [21:17] aceofspades19: ask Dominian or BP{k} :P [21:18] fire|bird: do you fonts look all crappy on noobfarm? [21:18] fire|bird: in konq? [21:18] *your [21:18] stnmrshx_ (n=stnmrshx@host227d.hades.net.pl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:18] wtf, I can't make a bootable usb flash drive using usbboot.img and a bunch of dd-style tools for windows (I don't have a linux box) [21:19] I tried winimage, flashnul, rawrite, etc. [21:19] macavity: eh, I wouldn't say crappy, but the certainly could be better. [21:19] s/the/they/ [21:20] fire|bird: crappy in this case == hard on an old mans eyes [21:20] fire|bird: ctrl-+ does it right away [21:20] why does slackware still include seamonkey? [21:21] why not include seamonkey? [21:21] because no one uses it [21:21] i use it [21:21] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "brb" [21:22] Pig_Pen: you're the first person I've met that uses it [21:22] As do I. [21:22] macavity: http://imagebin.org:80/55114 [21:22] has anyone managed to create a bootable usb flash drive with the Slackware installer (usbboot.img) using windows software? [21:23] as a matter of fact i just got rid of firefox because 3.5 wont run without dbus and dbus-glib , what kind of fscked up dependency is that for a stupid web browser [21:23] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [21:24] Pig_Pen: you don't have dbus installed? [21:24] i think some developers at mozilla should be b!tched slapped around a little for making firefox depend on dbus [21:24] nope, and i dont have hal installed either [21:24] why wouldn't you have it installed? [21:25] user623890 (n=sdjklghs@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:25] because dbus and hal are developed by retards that think Linux should act and function just like ms-windows [21:25] user623890 (n=sdjklghs@ppp-69-223-51-28.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Skaperen_ (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] fire|bird: http://imagebin.org:80/55115 [21:25] but they actually are pretty useful [21:26] noooo, whatever gave you that idea [21:26] macavity: that looks bad. :) [21:26] dbus is actually rather nice [21:26] hal sucks dogs arse.. and we are getting rid of it [21:26] i only tolerate udev because it saves me from writing a long list of modprobe lines in rc.modules [21:26] its funcitonality will be consumed by the much more sane libudev [21:27] but dbus has burried a hatchet that is older than most of us [21:27] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-140-219.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Success [21:27] ok, that was joke, but still [21:27] Skaperen_ (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:27] Pig_Pen: so you don't use something just because it makes it a little too much like how window, or even OSX acts? [21:27] it killed the dcop/corba/xmessages war once and for all [21:28] i looked in to dbus, it is the lesser of the two evils (dbus & hal) but i still dont use it, if i had to i would build that dbus-permissive package i seen listed at the dbus home page [21:28] Dominian: are you areound? [21:29] aww you guys lub me. :) [21:29] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) joined ##slackware. [21:29] dartmouth: yes, you will always be special to us :P [21:29] aceofspades19: you still have not answered my question about dbus and/or hal [21:29] Pig_Pen: I think that having a GUI is too much like windows [21:29] Skaperen_ (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:30] LOL [21:30] Pig_Pen: well I haven't had any problems with dbus or hal, so I can't imagine them making it any harder at least [21:30] aceofspades19: uhm... you should check up a little on that histroy [21:30] macavity: yes [21:30] Dominian: http://imagebin.org:80/55115 [21:30] i dont have a problem with X, i dont want some daemon doing too much for me, when i insert a cd/dvd or thumbdrive i dont want the whole desktop and whatever i am doing to pause while this daemon decides what to do, i can mount it manually when i am ready [21:31] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) left irc: Client Quit [21:31] Dominian: what's with the coice of font? and why are the line breaks hardcoded like that? [21:31] Dominian: *choice [21:31] Pig_Pen: do you happen to run a 486 by chance? [21:31] i have decent and modern hardware [21:31] macavity: you're using konq [21:31] macavity: noobfarm looks great in all browsers except konq for some reason [21:32] Pig_Pen: even on my PIII, hal/dbus has never slowed down my computer noticably [21:32] Dominian: taken the target audience into consideratoin... fix? :P [21:32] qtconfig should let you change fonts in konq. [21:32] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Action: dartmouth mumbles something about incompetent web designers.... [21:32] macavity: considering you're the first to complain.. I don't think its a wide spread issue :P [21:32] Dominian: i think i just heard dartmouth voulenteer to help you :P [21:32] not interested, go sell dbus & hal somewhere else [21:32] i_is_cat_ (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] Dominian: i'm the first one who knows who to annoy with it :P [21:33] Pig_Pen: I'm not a salesmen, your logic just doesn't make any sense [21:33] macavity: Dominian doesn't have any services to trade [21:33] dartmouth: not killing you is a service of great value to you ;-) [21:33] LOL [21:33] haha [21:33] then dont be pushing dbus and hal on me like some salesmen selling brushes or vaccumme cleaners [21:34] Dominian: "if browser=konqueror (font=something-else)"? [21:34] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [21:34] which font is it that you don't like? [21:34] Pig_Pen: I'm not pushing anything on you, I'm just trying to beat some sense into you, if you really had a logical reason for not using dbus/hal you woulnd't be saying this [21:34] the 'quote output' font? [21:35] i already told you why i dont want them [21:35] hang on.. im looking at the code [21:35] Dominian has services to trade! [ in bed ] [21:35] Action: macavity has a HTML disability, so it might be a while [21:35] macavity: http://imagebin.org:80/55115 [21:35] damn it hang on [21:35] Action: aceofspades19 hates illogical people [21:35] font-family:"Courier New", Courier, monospace [21:36] Not running hal/dbus is hardly deemed to be illogical. [21:36] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [21:36] oh, thats it? i am illogical because i dont want dbus & hal? [21:36] Pig_Pen: you just don't have a logical reason [21:36] macavity: check dev.noobfarm.org [21:36] does that font suit you? [21:37] looky here you young whippersnapper, get off my lawn! [21:37] sorry dave, i cant allow you to do that -HAL9000 2001 film [21:37] Dominian: MUCH better! [21:37] k [21:37] one sec [21:37] Dominian: the font on dev.noobfarm.org looks great in konq. [21:37] Dominian: nice an clear, not at all hard on the eyes [21:38] Dominian: i vote for that one in firefox too :-) [21:38] macavity: any other requests? :P [21:39] main site updated [21:39] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:39] ffs, has anybody had any luck writing the Slackware installer to an USB flash drive from Windows? [21:39] Dominian: thx a bunch :-) [21:40] not a problem [21:40] I've tried half a dozen dd-style programs and none seem to work, the USB flash drive isn't bootable [21:40] lol.. and guess who is on the front page :-) [21:40] I think someone else mentioned that to me before and I just forgot to look into it [21:40] macavity: :) [21:40] fire|bird: we are famous :-) [21:40] lamenick: get a slax liveCD iso if you have to, it is small so it will download fast, burn it and boot it up, then you can make your bootable usb thingy [21:41] macavity: \o/ [21:41] my laptop doesn't have a CD/DVD drive [21:41] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:42] slax also has a bootable usb thumbdrive image just unpack to a usb stick and read the instructions, you do have more than one usb thumbdrive? [21:42] yes [21:42] I'll do that [21:44] goodboy leroy, then boot slax in one usb port, and with the other usb thumbdrive in another port i am sure it will mount it automatically so you might have to umount the other usb thumbdrive to dd the slackware thing [21:45] mamma take these guns from me, i cant shoot them anymore... [21:45] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] change the topic, .com is up [21:49] now that slackware is back up i wonder if it gets slammed by a bunch of slackers in here just checking it for anything new [21:49] awesome [21:50] slackware dot com loaded quickly for me [21:51] real slackers know to only check the changelog and store.slackware.com.. neither of which are on the same machine as www.slackware.com [21:51] what you find on .com is just echoes of the real news channels :P [21:52] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.6.240) joined ##slackware. [21:52] though, you can't get to alien bobs packages if slackware is down [21:54] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: No route to host [21:56] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [21:57] mrselfpwn: you mean that you forgot to rsync his repo every 24h? [21:57] lol [21:57] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x503e7ad1.kd4nxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] no, it means i had to remove him from my slaptgetrc [21:59] O_o [21:59] your slaptg-what? [22:00] speaking of which i made a small mistake macavity and upgraded my aaa_elflibs [22:00] Action: macavity walks backwards really slowly while keeping the MP5 fixed on mrselfpwn [22:00] lol [22:00] "GUYS!!! We have an infidel in the house!!!" [22:01] mrselfpwn: no, slapt-get suggested that to you, and you did what you were supposed to.. hose your system on bad reccomendation [22:01] no, i manually overrode the suggested settings and did it myself [22:01] ouch [22:02] "pull pin for service" huh? :P [22:02] yeah, don't worry, i took my cyanide pill [22:02] You're on the pill? [22:02] Cool [22:02] well, i haven't noticed any problems yet [22:02] VampirePenguin: ping [22:02] keep alienBOB's stuff handy if you need any of it.. slackpkg and sbopkg for the rest [22:02] "once the pin is out, mr handgrenade is no longer your friend" [22:03] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:03] never try to put it back in :P [22:03] but btw, isnt almost all of alienBOB's stuff available from sbo anyway? [22:03] macavity: I..don't think so [22:03] straterra: the OOo is for one [22:03] Isnt that just a repackage? [22:03] some are/aren't [22:04] straterra: yes.. just like alienBOB's [22:04] I think most of his stuff is NOT in SBo [22:04] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:05] what's the adress again? [22:05] www.slackware.com/~alienbob [22:05] just ~alien [22:05] no bob [22:06] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.0-rc1" [22:06] www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [22:06] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:07] Zamboli (n=Merriam@freke.odin.pdx.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:07] here is the dilly-o, good folks [22:07] i feel like i deleted all my firefox 3.0.5 junk, but cant get firefox to launch 3.5 [22:07] Zamboli: as long as it is not dildo-y :P [22:08] not pointing to it [22:08] Zamboli: have you tried launcing it from a terminal [22:08] always [22:08] paste error? [22:08] hmm [22:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] hey.. alienBOB's blender is also just a repackage :-/ [22:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [22:12] .. just like the SBo one [22:12] and they dont work -current [22:13] Action: macavity contemplates writing a prober .SlackBuild for blender [22:13] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [22:14] .. or just fetching the one for python2.6 :P [22:15] i have 7 alien packages currently installed [22:15] dosbox, dosemu, ffmpeg, ms-sys, unrar, x264, and xvidcap [22:15] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [22:15] illuz1oN (i=500@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:15] got it [22:16] i had old versions of firefox hanging out in /usr/lib [22:16] duh [22:16] :P problem solved then. :) [22:16] Zamboli: it launches now? [22:16] yup [22:16] awesome [22:17] cd /usr/lib [22:17] oops [22:17] macavity: konq's split window comes in handy too. :) [22:17] for browsing [22:17] macavity, where might i notice an effect from updating aaa_elflibs? [22:18] i did get them from current [22:18] Hey mrselfpwn [22:18] hey fire|bird [22:18] mrselfpwn: digikam is still working good. I have over 10,500 pictures, just since 2007 [22:19] that I've taken [22:19] sweet [22:19] I can't imagine how many I'd have if I loaded all the ones I have on cd/dvd's :P [22:19] lol [22:19] how many gigs do you have? [22:20] It'd probably double. I think when I really started taking photos was in 2002 or 2003. [22:20] my /home is 500G [22:20] i mean of pictures [22:20] mrselfpwn: whoops, I'll check, sec. :P [22:21] google has a chrome OS now [22:21] 28.5G [22:21] wow [22:21] quite a bit [22:21] RipVanWinkle: has it released though, I've been reading about it. [22:21] mrselfpwn: yup :) I'm a shutterbug I guess. :P [22:21] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-7-231.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] i need to use my camera more [22:22] i have about 5 gigs of photos [22:22] mrselfpwn: i havent got a clue.. but i know for sure that you over wrote a shit load of files in other packages [22:22] not that i know of, just been reading about it myself, mostly FUD both "for" and "against" [22:22] mrselfpwn: you lightweight. Get to snappin that shutter. :P [22:22] its just Linux under the hood from what i read, [22:22] lol [22:22] mrselfpwn: you see, once you are done installing stuff, all the contents of aaa_elflibs have been written over by other packages [22:23] yes [22:23] mrselfpwn: it exists so that a minimal set of libs are in place for a chroot [22:23] i see [22:24] well, i'm hoping that since it's from current they would be fairly new? [22:24] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:24] i hope it works out well for google and they put a dent in microsoft's userbase [22:24] mrselfpwn: lets just hope you didnt botch anything important... [22:24] yes [22:25] mrselfpwn: but i would attempt to get the new tar, xv and pkgtools on board now [22:25] mrselfpwn: so you can upgrade the rest [22:26] well, i'm completely up to date with -current [22:27] i will reinstall them though [22:27] coldford (n=coldford@baconfile.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] coldford (n=coldford@baconfile.com) left ##slackware. [22:27] done [22:27] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:28] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [22:28] it just gives me a good reason to research the concept of the libs and give me a little more knowledge [22:29] thanks for the tips [22:30] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] danc3 (n=danc3@wsip-24-120-62-66.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] rworkman: ping [22:32] hi all [22:32] ok.. blender has a funny UI thingie! [22:32] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-9-161.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [22:33] gtl: i am whpping consolekit and policykit into shape. i am close on it's arse. I have a fix for now. I am trying to come up with a premanent fix that i will commit when i get it the way i want it. [22:33] gtqto solve your automounting issues [22:33] brb [22:34] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] dtanner, =) [22:34] gtl: the root of the issue is the console-kit-daemon plus adding a couple of entries into PolicyKit.conf. stay tuned for the info... bbs [22:34] Hi gtl, how are you? [22:35] fire|bird, good, buddy, thanks and you? [22:35] doing great, thank you. :) [22:35] almost got fired today... lol [22:36] gtl: yikes, what did you do? :P [22:36] or moreso, what didn't you do? [22:37] heh, good point. [22:37] mrselfpwn, that's more close to the matter ... ;P [22:37] gtl: what did you fail to do? :P [22:38] ask for help long time ago, when things were cooler... [22:39] things are cooling down now [22:39] and i got the so much needed help =) [22:39] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B120C6.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:40] <|lestat|> can anyone help me with shared libraries stuff? [22:40] dtanner: pong [22:41] <|lestat|> big shit happened today and I dont want to re-install whhole stuff [22:41] Flush. [22:41] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-23-63-230.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:42] crap... i hate web sites that don't work on firefox [22:42] Describe the smell, |lestat|. [22:42] IOW, exactly what is the problem? [22:42] <|lestat|> rworkman: ok.. [22:42] <|lestat|> rworkman: I had recently compiled some libraries that supported a program. I compiled and instaled them. [22:42] <|lestat|> rworkman: oday I decided to remove the libraries (and the 2 links I created) [22:43] <|lestat|> today [22:43] alright boys i downloaded slackware 12.2 from the torrent link on slackware.com and put her on a dvd...and i cannot get it to boot.i have a slave harddrive on my computer that i want to put it on and i know the cdrom boots first in the bios [22:43] <|lestat|> rworkman: After removing them, my system is not accepting even a ls. It only shows: "mesg: error in loading shared libraries..." [22:43] phillipsm: do the md5sums match [22:43] but it just goes straight to grub to boot my other os [22:43] <|lestat|> rworkman: I think the error was to remove the files before unregistering them from system, but can anyone help me to get rid of the error message to edit the configuration files? [22:43] |lestat|: hrm, what libraries were they? [22:43] do you think the iso is bad? [22:43] rworkman: ^^ [22:43] rworkman: made some progress on PolicyKit. I am going to pastebin what I have as far as allowing a user that is a member of plugdev and cdrom to automount cdroms. [22:43] phillipsm: yes [22:43] ok [22:44] ill try that [22:44] check the md5's [22:44] <|lestat|> rworkman: as a matter of facts, i was 1 library for a undel program [22:44] rworkman: turns out it was console-kit-daemon not running that was the big hold up. [22:44] <|lestat|> rworkman: for unerasing [22:44] lem1: what was its *name*? [22:44] dtanner: root 21408 0.0 0.0 100372 2580 ? Ssl Jul07 0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon [22:45] dtanner: why was it not running? [22:45] didn't mean to paste that :/ [22:45] rworkman: inb my case , gdm was not starting it. so i am starting it with a script for now. when in runlevel 3 all is good. [22:45] in* [22:45] |lestat|: is ls the only thing that won't work? What else doesn't work? [22:46] <|lestat|> rworkman: the system only accepts "help" after login [22:46] WHAT? [22:46] <|lestat|> rworkman: cant X... cant cd [22:46] rworkman: are you starting console-kit-daemon with a script? [22:46] dtanner: nope [22:46] so kdm is calling it ? [22:46] |lestat|: there is no "help" on Slackware. [22:47] dtanner: I'm using gdm here, actually. [22:47] 2.20.10 though, so perhaps older than yours [22:47] <|lestat|> rworkman: help was a last attempt, and worked [22:47] <|lestat|> rworkman: :) [22:48] |lestat|: that's all fine and good, but there is no "help" on Slackware. [22:48] <|lestat|> desesperated atempt [22:48] hmmm. i may need to upgrade gdm mine is .9 IF it is the version that is the problem [22:48] <|lestat|> rworkman: Its not a slackware [22:48] oooh [22:48] lol [22:48] |lestat|: Well, I was wrong - bash has "help" as a builtin. I'm using ksh [22:48] <|lestat|> rworkman: aye [22:49] Lady luck loves me sometimes though. [22:49] rworkman: where is your consolekit pid file? mine is here -> /var/lib/run/ConsoleKit/pid <- default location if configure is not told otherwise. [22:49] <|lestat|> rworkman: had you ever got stucked after removing libraries from system? [22:49] rworkman: slackware has help.. it is called /usr/doc/* ;-) [22:50] dtanner: I don't know if that's the problem or not, tbh. You did make me wonder though -- what happens if a user logs in from the console (i.e. not via gdm)? DOes ConsoleKit work? [22:50] dtanner: /var/run/console-kit-daemon.pid [22:50] macavity: :) [22:50] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) joined ##slackware. [22:50] |lestat|: yep. In fact, I wrote a recovery document. [22:50] |lestat|: http://rlworkman.net/glibc-recovery [22:51] <|lestat|> rworkman: the message I get: "mesg: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/bin/libundel.so: cannot open shared object: no such file or directory" [22:51] |lestat|: sounds like you've compiled lots of stuff on your system to look for that library then. [22:52] dtanner: I need to move that pid file ; I specified that location in configure, but I shouldn't have [22:52] LinuxEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] danc3 (n=danc3@wsip-24-120-62-66.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:53] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:53] good night all [22:53] g'night [22:53] night gtl [22:53] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [22:54] rworkman: i made a couple of entries into PolicyKit.conf and they are recognized and allow the user to mount/automount cdroms ( frmo run level 3 ) but if i start X session with gdm consolekit does not run automatically and no automount. I was just wondering where your pid file was. you must have specified that location to configure. [22:54] Zamboli (n=Merriam@freke.odin.pdx.edu) left ##slackware. [22:54] ok the md5 came back ok and i know that the cdrom boots because i installed debian that way on the pc [22:54] rworkman, that page is 404 not found. [22:54] hrm [22:54] what is the correct link? [22:54] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] any Acer Aspire One owners? [22:54] yes [22:54] no [22:54] aha [22:54] http://rlworkman.net/howtos/glibc-recovery [22:54] wut [22:54] ah, thanks [22:55] rworkman: the location of the pidfile of course makes no difference. i was just curious about that. [22:55] lestat__ (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B1208B.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:55] phillipsm: you have a dvd or cdrom? And a dvd drive or cdrom drive? [22:55] dtanner: right, but I'm glad you mentioned it. [22:55] well i have both and its in the dvd drive right now [22:55] rworkman, I'm one of those people that are insane and upgrade glibc on a running system. [22:55] Motoko-chan: me too :) [22:55] <|lestat|> rworkman: the message I get: "mesg: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/bin/libundel.so: cannot open shared object: no such file or directory" [22:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:56] rworkman: and its a dvd [22:56] rworkman: kernel should not be so anal about unexistent libraries [22:56] lestat__: yeah, I know that. The underlying cause is different, but the recovery principles are the same. [22:56] rworkman: couldn acces that url [22:56] lestat__: you need to develop a better understanding before you start bitching. [22:56] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B120C6.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:56] http://rlworkman.net/howtos/glibc-recovery [22:56] rworkman: :) [22:57] Kernel has nothing to do with that error. [22:57] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.33.84) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:57] rworkman: apparently PolicyKit is dependent on consolekit to work correctly. [22:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "brb" [22:57] rworkman: mesg [22:57] dtanner: hrm, that could be a problem, at least wrt "startx" as opposed to gdm/kdm logins [22:58] I had ck-lauch-sessions runing when gdm starts but of course it needs the console-kit-daemon running. [22:58] lestat__: no. You're not even running Slackware. I have no desire to try and diagnose a non-slackware problem. [22:58] had/have [22:58] rworkman: ok [22:58] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:59] what kind of a distro puts a shared library in /usr/local/*bin*/ ?!? [22:59] rworkman, can you help me with my Mandriva issue? [22:59] Motoko-chan: yes. Uninstall it. [22:59] heh [22:59] What about Fedora Core? [22:59] Action: macavity hands Motoko-chan a 40kW electro magnet [22:59] macavity: they don't. It was user-installed and user-removed. [22:59] Motoko-chan: I'm a man, not a magician. [22:59] Motoko-chan: he said to me that he feels unconfortable with non slack systems :( [22:59] No, I didn't say that at all. [23:00] Action: Motoko-chan expected you to say something about thermite and an old priest and a young priest [23:00] rworkman: ak.. it usually takes *skill* to convince autotools to stick a .so file in a bin/ dir :P [23:00] What I said is up above for everyone to see. [23:00] rworkman: you hurt my feelings [23:00] I'm about to install slackware-current on an acer aspire one (1gb RAM, 160gb hdd) [23:00] do I need a swap partition at all? [23:00] macavity: ah that was the app I tried to compile [23:00] lamenick: do you want to suspend2disk? [23:00] Dammit Jim, I'm a DOCTOR, not a sysadmin! [23:00] lestat__: what distro is that? [23:00] no, I rarely use it [23:01] Our business has a partner that actually runs their servers on FC7. [23:01] macavity: err... Mandrake [23:01] Which is completely unsupported. [23:01] Motoko-chan: wow. [23:01] but I'd like to install kde 4.2.4 [23:01] lestat__: try ##mandrake [23:01] macavity: a old [23:01] lamenick: yes, add a swap. [23:01] Oh, and they also leave SMB open globally. [23:01] macavity: ok [23:01] Since some of their clients connect for file sharing. [23:01] lestat__: or ##mandriva [23:01] Motoko-chan: WOW. [23:01] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:01] macavity: tks [23:01] Yeah... [23:01] It's all WTF-worthy. [23:02] macavity: but i like the slackware guys [23:02] lestat__, so use slackware =) [23:02] lamenick: i have a 47MB swap.. that is what was left after 10GB / and 90GB /home :P [23:02] hehe [23:02] macavity, it's just #mandriva (official channel) [23:02] Motoko-chan : we got a vendor who does fc4. [23:02] gtl: I like RPMS [23:02] I know a few hosts that offer RH7 [23:02] RPM based systems [23:02] has it ever been used? (the swap partition) [23:02] and they have the audacity to recommend external firewall [23:02] also, do you run kde? [23:03] hehehe [23:03] Sandman1 (n=Sandman1@cpe-71-64-119-225.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b sandman*!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:03] Sandman1 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: let's get something straight, right off the bat: you didn't ask for this ban...you were banned because you were drunk and causing issues in the channel. Also, tack on ban evasion. This isn't a game...go get help, then come back when your issues are resolved. [23:03] SSandman1 (n=Sandman1@cpe-71-64-119-225.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] what he did.. [23:03] better:) [23:03] lestat__: but we dont know *shit* about what the mandrake fucktards did to fsck up their distro so bad.. *really* i can not stress enough that compile/configure problems are really distro specific [23:03] this channel has grown [23:04] i haven't been here in _Years_ [23:04] lestat__: if you ask me what switches to use to get ls to do something particular, then it doesnt matter what distro you are on.. but if you ask me why gcc refuses to link to libfubar.so.1.2.5.6-221boz7 i will have *no* idea unless you are on slackware [23:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:05] VampirePenguin, :P [23:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] macavity, I actually use Mandriva [23:05] It isn't actually all that messed up. [23:05] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:05] Just one word of warning: Don't add the MIB repositories directly. They replace glibc and the kernel. [23:05] SSandman1: do you want me to repeat what the ban text just said about ban evasion? [23:06] macavity, i do not really care [23:06] macavity: I thought the problem Im having is more kernel related than distro related [23:06] SSandman1, howdy. [23:06] im trashed [23:06] i don't care [23:06] lol [23:06] hey rob [23:06] rworkman: ping? [23:06] wow [23:06] how surprising. [23:06] i actually tried contacting unixfool about my ban [23:06] rinse & repeat [23:06] somethings never change [23:07] and he still ignores me [23:07] who is ssandman really? [23:07] agentc0re, used to op here [23:07] ananke, ! [23:07] SSandman1: he no longer can lift the ban. [23:07] macavity: I thought that other people may had passed through this trap. Its really a trap.. [23:07] thumbs, rwork said go through unixfool [23:07] thumbs, i just get the runaround [23:07] Action: SSandman1 dances with ananke [23:07] How *does* one get op here anyway? [23:08] Not asking to be one, just curious. [23:08] juhl recommended me [23:08] lestat__: come again? didnt "mesg" complain about some shared library missing? [23:08] i resigned though [23:08] Motoko-chan: be a regular, ask nicely, and provide generous gifts? :P [23:08] So, like special favors? [23:08] Like a massage with a happy ending? [23:08] thumbs, last time i came was 1 year ago today [23:08] Motoko-chan: depends on who you ask I guess. :P [23:08] under the desk special favors.... [23:09] thumbs, i come here anually on this date [23:09] SSandman1: we didn't ask you to come back either. [23:09] Oh, so BJ at work. [23:09] SSandman1: so what makes today special then? [23:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:09] macavity: uhum [23:09] thumbs, you don't even know me [23:09] thumbs, so hush [23:09] lestat__: that cannot be a kernel problem.. you see, the kernel doesnt know, neither does it care, about shared libraries [23:09] agentc0re, its the date that i resigned [23:09] Motoko-chan: probably those wanting to be op aren't the right people to be one. ;) [23:10] SSandman1: o I don't? [23:10] BP{k}, yes. It's a very zen thing. [23:10] so why celebrate by coming back when the point of the date was to leave? [23:10] lestat__: binaries that link to libraries gets it all handled by /lib/ld-linux.so. [23:10] agentc0re, im crazy [23:10] agentc0re, left the ER 4 weeks ago [23:10] anyways [23:10] im here to just show my presence and leave [23:10] macavity: wow.. [23:10] so ill talk to you guys later [23:10] nice to see you, take care [23:10] Action: agentc0re waves SSandman1 bye [23:11] hopefully never again [23:11] thumbs, who are you? straterra? [23:11] hopefully indeed! [23:11] that little fuck? [23:11] nope, he's not. [23:11] lestat__: that is, the ".interp" feild of every ELF binary that is compiled with dynamic library support is set to /lib/ld-linux.so [23:11] thank god [23:11] then who are you thumbs [23:11] lestat__: just like you see #!/bin/bash in scripts [23:11] SSandman1 (n=Sandman1@cpe-71-64-119-225.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:12] thumbs is (are) all thumbs [23:12] lestat__: that way the kernel just invokes that other program to handle the job of the execution [23:12] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-23-63-230.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2000" [23:13] lestat__: now, in every dynamic ELF there is a .dynamic feild which contains a list of all the libraries needed for the program to run.. if some of them are missing, ld-linux.so cannot assemble the executable correctly, and hence bombs out instead of delivering a broken executable memory image to the kernel [23:13] lestat__: pretty simple and straight forward, no? :P [23:13] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [23:13] macavity: aye [23:14] macavity, just one question, why are you trying to help him? :) [23:14] rob0: it's statisfying his inner masochist. ;) [23:14] macavity wants op ;) [23:14] and rob0 is just here to contradict me. [23:14] hehe [23:14] Am not!! [23:14] Are too! [23:15] lestat__: ok, there is one drawback to this.. and that is that ld-linux.so does actually not check if the listed libraries are actually *needed* (this is because of an optimization called object prelinking).. so if someone goofs up something, a binary can actually depend on a library that it strictly doesnt need [23:15] Wow, why is it he picked me to PM? [23:15] Dee too. [23:15] was this dude suicidal before? [23:15] he has a long history. [23:15] agentc0re, yes, he's a wreck (or was, last I knew him.) [23:15] lestat__: we actually just saw such an accident not long ago, when libtool desided that everything and its grandmother was supposed to depend on libx11-xcb.so, when infact only libx11.so was supposed to need it [23:16] macavity: I compiled a library asked by an app, did "export" in a modules file, and ldconfig [23:16] heya BP{k}. How's it going? [23:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] macavity: made 2 links for the library [23:16] rob0: i am trying to explain to him why his problem could very well be distro specific [23:17] macavity: I cant understand why the whole system is hanged because taht app specific library [23:17] Action: Motoko-chan hasn't managed to break Mandriva lately yet. [23:17] fire|bird: not too bad, thank you. How's you? [23:17] gtl: no, i dont want to be an op.. that means i have to act like a grown up all the time, and that is a responsiblity that outweghts the goddies of having power :P [23:17] kitche (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: "leaving" [23:17] macavity, hehe joking here [23:18] lestat__: me neither... and i dont intend to investigate it furter.. unless you can reproduce the same problem on slackware [23:18] Action: lestat__ burning brain [23:18] macavity: ok [23:18] BP{k}: doing great, thank you. Just messing with kopete, msn doesn't seem to work with it. :P [23:18] darnit (n=staples@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] fire|bird: you dont want to talk the lusers who use msn anyway.. its not a bug, its a feature ;-) [23:19] fire|bird, i use pidgin, but maybe it's something related to msn? [23:19] macavity: haha, some family use msn, so I keep it around. [23:19] fire|bird: drop it. use pidgin or bitlbee ;) [23:19] gtl: Yeah, I usually use pidgin too. I was just checking kopete out. [23:20] Action: XGizzmo is too lazy to setup bitlbee [23:20] BP{k}: haha, I'm the type that when something isn't working, I wan't to figure out why, so, I have a mission now. I can't just switch. :) [23:20] BP{k}: I'm on irssi right now, do I get any good points for that? :P [23:20] rworkman: thanks for the URL [23:21] macavity: thanks for enlightment [23:21] fire|bird: well of course, gotta fix it first *then* switch. ;) [23:21] pidgin has problems if you run X as root but pidgin in another account [23:21] gonna leave [23:21] bye [23:21] macavity, I just don't understand the nerve of a non-Slackware user who comes into ##slackware for help. [23:21] Good riddance. [23:21] and someone on pidgin-l suggested to not run X as root... how ridiculous.... [23:21] rob0: hehehe [23:22] rob0: they do not yet know that they are crunchy and good with ketchup [23:22] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.42.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:22] BP{k}: yes, of course. :) Also, not that I'd use it, but kopete is suppose to have irc, but it isn't listed in the add account protocol list. :P [23:22] rob0: I prefer slackware because slackwarers are better system players [23:23] fire|bird, i had to install meanwhile in order to make pidgin connect to sametime protocol, maybe there's something like that to kopete? [23:24] lestat__ (n=pescotap@dl-lns3-tic-C8B1208B.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) left irc: [23:24] gtl: eh, I don't know. could be I guess. :P [23:24] lestat__: if you then actually used slackware, there might be a chance that *you* would become a better system player ;-) [23:24] lol [23:25] and we prefer slackers as to slackwarers [23:25] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-44.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] lets not swamp the kid with technicalities just yet :P [23:25] haha [23:26] macavity, i guess it's the same as here... whenever i say i use slackware to a fellow linuxer, i see him taking two steps back and frowning big time [23:26] gtl: then you go: "what? you dont actually *like* UNIX?!?" ;-) [23:27] gtl: then when they go "but-but-but" you say "ever heard of Lindows?" :P [23:27] You're behind the times. [23:27] ok, privoxy/tor all of a sudden decides it is no longer going to work, and is going to do this with *no* error in the error logs [23:27] how do you troubleshoot without logs? [23:27] macavity, hehe! one can always say that "Unix is user frendly, it's just selective about who its friends are!" [23:27] Ubuntu is the new hot distro. [23:27] it just refuses the connections [23:28] lol. Lindows [23:28] gtl: They feel inferior. next they will be bowing. [23:28] Motoko-chan: i think PuppyLinux is the next big thing *giggle* [23:28] XGizzmo, hahah [23:29] i worked last year with a sys admin that started on slackware and moved to freebsd [23:29] kenny_duehitt (n=kenny_du@CPE0015e9698772-CM001ac316ac14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:29] I reached the end of the internet and that is where i found this channel. [23:29] he almost got me convinced [23:29] ok, tor is working, with 'torify irssi' [23:30] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] Nah, it's LFS. [23:30] irssi doesn't support proxies? [23:30] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] hey all [23:30] its just easier that way [23:30] i got a question [23:30] or do you mean the torify how to? [23:31] also verifies tor is working, which would explain nothing wrong in the logs [23:31] i reinstalled slackware on my laptop [23:31] privoxy running through vidalia is the culprit [23:31] but for some reason after rebooting the new installation it wont get past lilo [23:31] darnit: you just have a configuration issue then. privoxy and Tor work fine with vidalia [23:31] sounds like and incorrect lilo.conf [23:31] beatzz: do you actually get the Lilo screen up? [23:32] ummm no [23:32] beatzz: or does it just say "L 02 02 02"? [23:32] its weird though, how it worked for hours and hours and days and days, and then, with no configuration change, stops working. [23:32] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-128-28.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:32] did you add any new hardware? [23:32] no [23:32] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-4.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Where does it stop? [23:32] macavity, no lilo screen [23:33] beatzz: ok, then you press enter, what happens then? [23:33] well no i take that back [23:33] Action: Motoko-chan likes L 99 the best [23:33] i get the lilo screen [23:33] then it starts to boot [23:33] there we go [23:33] then it pops an error [23:33] it's catching a zombie process lock file [23:33] beatzz: what does that error say? [23:33] you have to restart the process [23:34] thanks all [23:34] darnit (n=staples@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:34] macavity, im not shure it was long [23:34] macavity, i could restart again [23:34] its because i used 'setup' twice when configuring my slackware install [23:34] beatzz: we need to know if it says something like "unknown block device" or "not syncing FS" or whatever [23:34] ive had this happen befor [23:35] beatzz: ah, ok, use the DVD to boot into the system [23:35] yes [23:35] beatzz: are you in Slackware now? [23:35] yes [23:35] Question: (slackware 12.2) I've installed the latest drivers of my videocard (NVIDIA gtx 260). startx hangs when I run it. I ran X -configure Do i now move the xorg.conf.new to my X11 folder and rename it over xorg.conf ??? [23:35] beatzz: pastebin your lilo.conf [23:35] beatzz: so we can have a look :-) [23:35] macavity, np [23:36] kenny_duehitt: you should probaly move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:36] kenny_duehitt: .. that is, if you want X to actually read it [23:36] that is what i meant. ok i will try that. thx [23:36] kenny_duehitt: dont forget to make backups... [23:37] kenny_duehitt: You should actually run the nvidia setup to have it create a correct xorg.conf for you. [23:37] yes [23:37] I only got 1 file from Nvidea and already ran it [23:37] kenny_duehitt: nvidia-xconfig [23:37] will it try to correct itself if I run it AGAIN? [23:37] macavity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/213396/ [23:37] oohk [23:37] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:37] type in nvidia at the cli and press tab. [23:38] that will make it correct for you kenny_duehitt [23:38] kenny_duehitt (n=kenny_du@CPE0015e9698772-CM001ac316ac14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] lol [23:38] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-19-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:38] kenny_duehitt: first, test it X -config xorg.conf.new [23:38] ouch... to late [23:38] you have no root= [23:39] beatzz: is your slackware / on /dev/sda1? [23:39] macavity, yes [23:39] also quotes around /boot/vmlinuz are un-needed [23:39] kenny_duehitt (n=kenny_du@CPE0015e9698772-CM001ac316ac14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] beatzz: compare to this: http://pastebin.ca/1489146 [23:40] beatzz: copy the changes to /etc/lilo.conf and *dont forget to run lilo again* before you reboot [23:40] good evening PiterPunk [23:40] beatzz, you're missing root=/dev/sda1... [23:40] ./liloconfig ftw [23:40] gtl, it did mention something about "root" on the errors [23:41] kenny_duehitt (n=kenny_du@CPE0015e9698772-CM001ac316ac14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [23:41] lol [23:41] beatzz: now you know why. :P [23:41] agentc0re, i just tryed ur method, lets see if it works, brb 'init 6' [23:41] kenny_duehitt (n=kenny_du@CPE0015e9698772-CM001ac316ac14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:42] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:42] hmmm, the only file I have is NVIDEA-Linux-x86-185.18.14-pkg1.run [23:42] kenny_duehitt: you need to be root. [23:42] always better to automate a solution then to understand a problem right? [23:42] groo (n=groo@189-19-166-190.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:42] groo (n=groo@189-19-166-190.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:43] i am root [23:43] kenny_duehitt: type in "nvidia" on the CLI and then hit tab a few times for auto-complete. [23:43] should I sh it? [23:43] kenny_duehitt: it will then show you all the other commands. [23:43] ahhh thx [23:43] kenny_duehitt: no, "nvidia" then tab.. no quotes. [23:43] kenny_duehitt: as root. [23:44] i did, i found it [23:44] \0/ [23:44] looking around first before i ask more questions ;) [23:44] g'night (again!) all [23:44] g'night [23:44] night [23:45] night gtl [23:45] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.201.23.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] welcome back [23:46] agentc0re, ./liloconfig solved the issue [23:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.92.168) joined ##slackware. [23:46] so would root = /dev/sda1 :P [23:46] slack-laptop is now officaly re-pimped [23:46] lol [23:46] is that all that liloconfig did? add that line into lilo.conf [23:47] beatzz: you should read over lilo.conf untill you actually understand what it is made of [23:47] man lilo [23:47] beatzz: that is what i said.. [23:47] man lilo.conf [23:47] beatzz: and if you had checked the paste i have back to you, you would have noticed that i had just added that line [23:47] so how come grub loads way faster than lilo [23:47] beatzz: use the compact directive in lilo.conf [23:47] beatzz: look it up in the manpage :P [23:48] for shure [23:48] beatzz: then it loads just as fast as grub [23:48] definitly need to brush up on my lilo [23:48] remember that after editing your /etc/lilo.conf to run /sbin/lilo [23:48] beatzz: just dont forget to run lilo every time you have edited lilo.conf [23:48] beatzz: remember this though, lilo -t -v [23:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:49] /sbin/lilo -c will make it boot faster as well [23:49] beatzz: always that before lilo -v [23:49] mornin all [23:49] hey dive. [23:49] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] how are you? [23:50] mrselfpwn: sure, but then you have to type -c every time [23:50] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:50] how do you enable it in the config file? [23:50] fire|bird, fine thanks, yourself? [23:50] mrselfpwn: adding compact to the .conf [23:50] dive: doing great, thanks. [23:50] mrselfpwn: eg, just under lba32 [23:50] ah [23:50] nice, thank you [23:51] lilo-fu is actually one of the deciplines where i know that i am quite good [23:51] hehe [23:51] well [23:51] i've fought the most obnoxius configurations [23:51] in my endeavor i finally got my livecd to boot from sda3 using lilo [23:52] macavity: Hence why you are the leader of the Jedi Council. [23:52] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [23:52] especially some nForce2 based motherboards seems intent on hating lilo [23:52] agentc0re: i am?!? [23:52] That's what i was told. [23:52] you are using the force aren't you? [23:52] No joke there either. [23:52] apparently you should not belive everything you hear :P [23:52] :D [23:53] Eh, i've always considered the "jedi council" of this room to be the more privileged members. [23:53] i thought i was just in charce of of teaching the younglings the basics [23:53] only the true leader of the jedi council would deny himself ;) [23:53] anyone using my diversity irssi theme, I've just uploaded v 1.4 with transparent topic bar here: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/irssi [23:54] BP{k}++ [23:54] dive: awesome. I shall try it out. [23:54] BP{k}: the true leader of the jedi council goes by the name of justlurking ;-P [23:55] dive: that is one sick wallpaper :P [23:55] how do I open and read my xorg.conf in the CLI? [23:55] litterally [23:55] macavity: You kidding me? The force is so great I usually sit and listen. [23:55] redtricycle (n=redtricy@68.124.182.77) joined ##slackware. [23:55] which? The ear? [23:56] hehe pinned ear ftw! [23:56] dive: the face with nails in it :P [23:56] kenny_duehitt, there are different ways though I usually do nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:56] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] witz: that is a good way to get wiser, yes :-) [23:56] as root [23:56] macavity, yeah I seem to be attracted to weird stuff ;-) [23:56] or the same command with sudo [23:56] dive: back off! ;-) [23:56] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [23:57] lamenick (n=lamenick@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:57] is slackware.com down again? [23:58] /topic [23:58] no, it is up again [23:58] agentc0re: it was back up earlier. looks like it's down again. [23:58] /stickfootinmouth [23:58] kenny_duehitt, you will need to use a text editor such as nano, pico or vim. E.g. nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:58] macavity: not any more. :P [23:58] err.. no.. it is DOWN again [23:59] have we not sacreficed enough to the gods? [23:59] can someone give me a working canadian mirror to perform an http install? [23:59] lamenick: Down for me also. [23:59] ftp/http [23:59] I'm using nano now. thx [23:59] lamenick: ftp.slackware.no [23:59] lamenick: trust me.. it is fast enough [23:59] kenny_duehitt: vim ftw! :P [23:59] of course you must edit it as root to save changes kenny_duehitt [23:59] I only knew of emacs, but had NO IDEA how to use it once inside, hahaha [23:59] cool, because I'm installing kde also :) [00:00] --- Thu Jul 9 2009