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[00:11] gentoo, for example, kicks everyone's ass in terms of documentation, but their docs are largely community-provided [00:11] it's a "one man distro", so there's not much done beyond making the distro work [00:12] And even FreeBSD Handbook is more extensive than Slackbook [00:12] docs aren't a slackware developer's first priority [00:12] also, the size of the userbase might have something to do with the quantity of docs you find that are associated to one or the other [00:12] trhodes: Slackware is? Hmm.. [00:12] lots of ubuntu people writing docs. [00:12] slackware is sexual [00:12] however, keep in mind, quantity does not equal quality [00:13] Oh, I certainly understand that :) [00:13] then i help people here in the channel i often ask that they blog about the solution i provided so others can see it...i don't know if they pay attention to me though many have said they'd do so... [00:14] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] I've been meaning to start a blog about my slackware adventures :\ [00:14] I should really do a wrie up about my laptop and slackware. [00:15] Except I forget during the times when it's needed [00:15] rirombo: as always .. writing documentation is the last thing to do. [00:15] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [00:16] And the least fun, unfortunately [00:16] ain't that the truth. [00:17] Slackware tends to be obvious, too. [00:17] rirombo: one of my jobs as PFY at a job in the netherlands was to maintain the "server book" complete documentation of hard/software/jobs for each server ... [00:17] amen girlfriend *z-snap* [00:18] byteframe: Which has been such a breath of fresh air :) [00:19] slackware's not a distrib, it's an ethos [00:19] Other distros also have more quirks and -isms peculiar to them, so they are kinda forced to have their own swathes of specific documentation. [00:20] That's a good point; I didn't think of it in that way. [00:20] not having pam can be considered a quirk [00:20] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:21] mancha, I know what you mean. [00:21] BP{k}: That sounds like a very useful thing to have, though counter-productive for job security :P [00:21] good point, mancha [00:22] gdm for slackware (sbo or gsb) is kinda stuck @ 2.20 because of PAM. [00:23] what is the issue with pam? [00:23] pam == oil, slackware == water. Other than that, I'm fairly ignorant of the technicals. 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[00:34] anyone interested in doing a algebra one course for 50 USD message me [00:35] is ##slackware about soliciting? [00:36] if so, anyone interested in sending me $50, please do [00:36] shonudo: good point...if one hates algebra...that person's gonna hate linux(with all them variables) [00:37] indeed [00:38] Definitely a good point. All of a sudden variables like x, y, and c start looking very easy when you're faced with CFLAGS, TERM, or NETHACKOPTIONS :D [00:38] hey rirombo, how goes it? [00:38] how is the slackware adventure shaping up? [00:38] hba (~hba@189.130.30.159) joined ##slackware. [00:39] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] shonudo: So far so good. Still limping in several areas, but it's coming along. [00:39] good to hear [00:39] rirombo: what's the make of (dell) netbook ? [00:40] i'm just going to give it a google, too [00:40] Sound is mostly working, I can see Chinese characters now that I'm using unicode-rxvt instead of xterm, and I'm digging console/terminal :D [00:40] trhodes: Dell Vostro A90 [00:40] rirombo: ok [00:40] yes, urxvt is nice :) [00:40] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] alienBOB: ping !! [00:44] guys, what is the module for my Atheros - wlan0 up ? [00:44] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:44] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [00:44] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) joined ##slackware. [00:45] powtrix, assuming you have it loaded, try lsmod? [00:45] not loaded [00:45] why we have two files: "qt-4.6.3_ef2e850-x86_64-1alien.txz" and "qt-4.6.3_f410443-x86_64-1alien.txz" in kde-4.4.5 repository ? [00:46] a tp-link TL-WN422G [00:46] powtrix: http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html [00:46] see if that helps [00:47] there are a ton of links for the atheros chipset [00:47] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.38) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:47] so kernel does not have it by default? [00:48] which kernel? [00:48] I tried modprobe madwifi . no success [00:48] 13.1 [00:49] the default kernel on 13.1... i don't know [00:50] you can compile a kernel and setup whatever you need [00:50] might be a good exercise [00:50] guys, how do you proceed to know automatically if you have a message in /var/mail/$USER [00:51] i use to check the box from time to time, but i would be glad if i could be notified clearly ^^ [00:54] paissad: use conky? [00:56] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [00:56] MLanden, it's a server (without X) [00:57] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:58] powtrix: iirc, you can setup madwifi or other atheros as a driver thingy similar to realtek [00:59] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:59] i use realtek on a box, so i'm not absolutely sure [00:59] but i think atheros devices were similar [00:59] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:59] I am downloading the madwifi [00:59] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [01:01] Nick change: loganhatesmath -> EliTe [01:01] paissad: ok [01:01] What's a good PDF viewer for X? [01:01] I have GTK and QT installed, but that's pretty much the only KDE/GNOME libraries I have [01:02] evince is nice [01:02] Nick change: EliTe -> LyRiczZ [01:02] rirombo: less -p 268 /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt # to see what other options you can try for your snd_hda_intel [01:03] i still use xpdf [01:03] it's ugly :) [01:04] trhodes: Ah, that's where it's at! :) I was looking for that file. Thanks! I will just cycle through all options and see what works best :) [01:05] you're welcome - i couldn't remember where that file was without google's help :P [01:06] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [01:07] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-232-81-37.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:09] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [01:10] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:10] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: >_< PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^ [01:13] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:13] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:14] powtrix, which atheros do you have? [01:14] AR8x? [01:14] the module should be ath9k but I can't get it working with slackware 13.1 [01:15] 13 works fine [01:15] I have a AR8something [01:15] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [01:17] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [01:18] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:19] both ath* modules does not load it [01:21] hba (~hba@189.130.30.159) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:22] I know [01:22] I have the same problem [01:22] module doesn't get loaded and device wlan0 is not created [01:23] It is a TP Link TL-WN422G [01:23] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:23] maybe someone already asked that but what do you get when you do lspci [01:23] ? [01:23] Lurzino (Luigino@host80-52-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:23] hello everyone!!! :))))))) [01:24] Hello, Lurzino! [01:24] (or in this case maybe "lsusb") [01:24] *lsusb returns ATHEROS USB2.0 [01:25] iSerial 12345 :p [01:30] heya,Lurzino [01:31] http://pastebin.com/CzQe2nnU [01:32] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:33] powtrix, found something for you [01:33] http://www.alfredomaesa.net/2010/03/29/released-ath9k_htc-driver-rilasciato-il-driver-linux-ath9k_htc-per-atheros-usb-ar9271.php [01:33] your chipset is the ar9271 by the way ;) [01:34] found it because of this guy here looking for the same stuff as you :http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/166247-solved-tl-wn422g-v2-atheros.html [01:34] "It has finally been released the ath9k_htc linux driver! It was needed for the AR9271 chipset used by atheros usb dongle on the following devices: TP LINK TL-WN722N, TL-WN721N, TL-WN422G." [01:34] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: ja volto [01:34] ath9k_htc << trying it [01:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:35] check that page out. they have the whole explanation on where to get and how to compile it [01:39] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:41] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:43] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@www.melug.org expired. [01:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@www.melug.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:43] dorko_the_clown (~noobfarm@bishop.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:43] hrm [01:43] noobfarm..? [01:43] yah... what about it? [01:43] interesting is all [01:43] Action: dorko_the_clown shrugs [01:44] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. 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[02:05] try ifconfig wlan0 [02:05] pm for men would be an interesting topic - along the lines of first male pregnancy [02:05] iwconfig wlan0 [02:05] does that bring anything up ? [02:05] Lurzino: install wicd [02:05] what the hell is this wicd stuff i hear about [02:05] im such a basic linux user i'm expected 31337 srtatus [02:05] see if the module loads for that wireless chip [02:05] status [02:05] jeev: google wicd [02:05] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:06] ken, lazy [02:06] http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ [02:06] it's also in extra/ on the dvd [02:07] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:07] edthix (~ed@175.144.230.119) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Lurzino: what is the wifi card/chip? [02:07] MLanden it's an Intel 2200BG [02:07] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:08] cool beans [02:08] alisonken1home I've heard about this wicd and I've read around its suggested also to upgrade to newer version than the one present in extra/ [02:08] Lurzino: since it's a python script setup, you can also install the one from -current [02:09] edthix (ed@175.144.230.119) left ##slackware. [02:09] "you can also install the one from -current" you mean from scratch from the site? [02:09] Lurzino, if you are on 13.0, then definitely install the one from 13.1 [02:09] or -current, they are the same [02:09] if I copy "ath9x_htc.o" into "/lib/modules/2.6.33-smp/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/" doing a "modprobe ath9k_htc" should not load it? [02:10] Lurzino: download wicd from slackware-current, then installpkg wicd [02:10] ath9k_htc.o* [02:10] slava_dp I installed 13.1 [02:10] Lurzino, in 13.1 in extra/ is the latest wicd. no need to upgrade anything. [02:10] ah ok [02:10] powtrix: that only works if it was compiled against your current kernel - and don't forget to run "depmod -a" before trying to shove it in the kernel [02:10] hold on slava_dp gotta reboot and try it [02:10] I'lll back later thanks :) [02:11] =) [02:11] Er... I'll let you know later :) [02:11] Lurzino: shouldn't need a reboot unless you did something else with the setup [02:11] yes alisonken1noc but actually I'm under windows =) [02:11] so I need to reboot to linux :) [02:11] hah [02:11] ah - that helps :) [02:11] in fact [02:11] I installed also vbox [02:12] but I figured I'll have to fix lilo too [02:12] mmlj4 (jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left ##slackware. [02:12] because once starting the vmdk looks like corrupt... [02:12] so I'll back later :) [02:12] Lurzino (Luigino@host80-52-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [02:15] FATAL: Error inserting ath9k_htc (/lib/modules/2.6.33-smp/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko): Invalid module format [02:15] jhw (~jhw@p579828A9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] powtrix, dmesg | tail [02:15] renamed .o to .ko [02:17] powtrix, do you have sources for it? you will most certainly have to rebuild it if it can't be inserted into your current kernel. [02:17] yes, im compiling it [02:18] i dont want to do 'make install' [02:18] it would be "make modules_install" I believe [02:18] unless you're installing the kernel [02:21] what's the slackpkg option for installing series x? 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[02:55] oh, its a red herring, it works now [02:55] its ok i guess lol [02:56] Action: slava_dp wants to eat the red herring [02:56] Action: alisonken1noc would give them to slava_dp [02:57] Action: fhobia would watch [02:57] from virtualbox [02:57] running windows [02:57] through webcam [02:57] inside another virtualbox!!! [02:57] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:57] nah, i'm getting carried away now [02:57] virtualbox is pretty awesome though, so its easy to get excited [02:59] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:59] powtrix, you don't have to do make install [02:59] you can just copy the modules by yourself [03:00] and don't forget 'depmod -a' [03:00] installed it, rebooted but didn't return any wlan0 [03:00] the modules are loaded :\ [03:00] lsmod [03:00] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:00] is it loaded? [03:00] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:00] fhobia: vbox 3.2.6? [03:00] lsmod returns it [03:00] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:01] powtrix: "ls /sys/class/net" [03:01] ifconfig -a [03:01] eth0/ eth1/ lo/ [03:01] oh [03:01] maybe it created it as eth1 [03:01] AbsTradELic: your mirror is not a perfect mirror perhaps. I updated the qt package overnight - see the ChangeLog.txt of my ktown repository or better, subscribe to its RSS feed [03:01] do you have 2 nics other than wireless? [03:01] MLanden: yeah, thats what i got [03:01] unless you have two two nics [03:01] 2 ethernets here [03:01] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] oh [03:01] although the seamless windows mode doesn't like xmonad XP [03:02] fhobia: cool....party on,then!!...*whoops,enjoy! [03:03] \o/ [03:04] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [03:04] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. 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[03:20] http://pastebin.com/WLkddy8z [03:20] just it [03:22] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:26] grazymax (~grazymax@host178-153-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:27] atheros has had some usb issues in the past - so not sure if they've fixed the usb ethernet driver [03:29] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-241.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:30] maybe [03:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-243.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:32] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:32] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:33] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Mikey^ (~user@122.164.219.68) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Hey [03:35] I need some help connecting my laptop via s-video [03:36] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:36] This is my xorg.conf and xrandr -q output : http://pastebin.ca/1896505 [03:36] Please help [03:37] anyone ? [03:38] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:38] powtrix- (~powtrix@189-69-16-166.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-241.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:38] Nick change: powtrix- -> powtrix [03:39] My tenactin' is fast actin'. [03:40] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:42] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] hba (~hba@189.130.30.159) joined ##slackware. [03:48] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:49] powtrix, no changes? [03:50] still no [03:50] did you use this usb wifi thingy before with slackware? [03:50] ow linux at all? [03:50] ow = or [03:51] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:51] first time I try config it [03:51] i see [03:52] Mikey^ (user@122.164.219.68) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [03:52] well, from what I saw on the pastebin [03:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:52] your device is being recognized [03:52] the firmware was also loaded [03:53] now you need a device [03:53] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [03:54] ouyuu (~hpo3@218.193.181.155) joined ##slackware. [03:56] :/ [03:57] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f97c:ad65:ff1c) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:59] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:59] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-187-50-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:00] LOL, looking at the number of patches for pulseaudio that mandriva uses: http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/packages/cooker/pulseaudio/current/SOURCES/ [04:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:00] powtrix, can you post the whole dmesg? [04:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-166.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:01] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [04:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:01] http://pastebin.com/PsQhrhhT [04:02] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:02] restarted udev n plugged it [04:04] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:04] and you get that message? [04:05] Yes [04:05] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:05] I checked the code of the patch. it waits a second for the firmware to be loaded. if it doesn't happen it times out [04:06] like this http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc [04:06] next step, debug [04:06] turnedtodust (turnedtodu@get.rooted.by.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [04:07] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:07] turnedtodust (turnedtodu@get.rooted.by.shellium.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:07] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:fbe4:ae3e:49fb) joined ##slackware. [04:08] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:09] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:09] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:12] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:16] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:21] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:22] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:23] powtrix, sorry I can't help you more. can't do much specially using a windows machine... [04:24] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:24] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:25] Action: DallaRosa needs to feed the family, so has to prostitute himself to windows programming :/ [04:26] testing some patches [04:26] if you get anything new [04:26] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:30] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:31] hba (~hba@189.130.30.159) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:33] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:33] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Has anyone tried transmission-remote-cli? [04:34] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:38] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:38] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Changing host [04:38] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:39] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: I seen her duck [04:42] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:43] morning guys o/ [04:43] 0_o [04:44] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [04:44] ##slackware: mode change '-qnt Iraqi!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:44] ##slackware: mode change '+nt ' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:44] ##slackware: mode change '-q *!*@gateway/web/freenode*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:44] ##slackware: mode change '-q King_Ozzy!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [04:46] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*cpunch*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:49] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:49] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [04:50] phrag, I would say "good evening" [04:50] evening =) [04:50] :) [04:52] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@72.95.96.226' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:55] Morn [04:56] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Changing host [04:56] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:57] Just wondering.. has anyone already done an *absolute minimum* kernel for VirtualBox guest? ie only vbox hardware support [04:58] Zordrak: modpost error? [04:59] MLanden: huh? [05:00] MLanden: that modpost error (like anc had) comes from doing nonstandard stuff - in his case, he didn't have a fully configured and prepared kernel source [05:00] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:00] Zordrak: that would probably have some minimal benefit actually [05:01] rworkman: not sure what you mean [05:01] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:02] rworkman: ok...just have seen similar snags with 2.6.34.1 and vbox...but right, there may not be any connections [05:02] Zordrak: re the minimum kernel [05:02] rworkman: looks like it was pebkac last night - I reinstalled standard slack x, and the dell laptop has nice eye candy with it [05:03] alisonken1noc: very nice :) [05:03] rworkman: stuck =) [05:03] Im just talking about a standard custom kernel made for vbox that doesnt have anything it doesnt need. I do it as standard for desktop boxes,but havent done one for vbox yet.. but theres no point duplicating if someone already has done it as the hardware is the same [05:03] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [05:03] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Changing host [05:03] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [05:03] phrag: thank you. There were a couple of other hostmasks too - south@melug or some such too [05:03] Check the bot for "poisonous person" ban msgs :) [05:04] Zordrak: yeah; for a virtual machine, a minimal kernel is probably worth the effort [05:04] hmm, can't find bans on reason search [05:04] Not for *me* since I use it for building/testing, but for a production machine, sure [05:05] rworkman: if you have any more hostmasks you know of, i'll add them now... those two sticky should suffice for now i think.. or at least force some new masks to add =P [05:05] www.melug.org -- speaking of which, it might be worth complaining to them about abuse [05:05] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [05:06] phrag: thanks :) [05:06] most certainly if he is representing a LUG [05:06] I'm guessing the LUG gives out shell accounts [05:06] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:fbe4:ae3e:49fb) joined ##slackware. [05:07] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:fbe4:ae3e:49fb) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:08] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:08] morn [05:08] anyone heard of this OS written entirely in assembly? [05:08] http://www.menuetos.net/ [05:09] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [05:09] radiohead eh ? [05:10] figabo (~figabo@201.164.152.133) joined ##slackware. [05:10] stinky: read about it...saw a blog about it along with minix3 and (sp) kobrios [05:11] No, the MELUG shell accounts are apparently for website maintenance, not just for any member. CP was at one point in charge of the South subgroup, which is now listed as inactive. [05:11] yeah, just heard they have a commercial fork named kalibri [05:12] kolibri* [05:12] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [05:12] stinky: that's it...couldn't remember the spelling [05:12] rob0: then someone needs to be made aware of his behavour, especially if hes in a position of responsibiliy [05:13] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [05:14] darkwurm: fix your client and PM me when your done [05:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b darkwurm!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:14] darkwurm kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: 1 hour [05:14] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [05:14] stinky: tried it on an old 100mhz p1 tablet(last leg,sadly)...really nice distro on system with limited resources [05:15] oh yeah? [05:15] i was curious.. seems like it would be fast. [05:15] rworkman: interesting - I've got eyecandy with the stock slackware x on this laptop, but now whenever I go to system settings, it kills X [05:16] alisonken1noc, that's what I get on this box at work, with an i3 built-in card. [05:16] so - it looks like I have to upgrade to your x-1.8 packages again to check it out [05:16] phrag: indeed, but that someone should be one of you channel ops. Consider it suggested. :) [05:17] yeh we'll collate some info and ping them, thanks for the tip [05:18] stinky: good learning curve for fasm,yasm etc.. [05:18] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:20] yeah, i would imagine. i always liked tinkering with assembly [05:21] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:21] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:21] stinky: talking about alternate os's..saw this one posted on sourceforge recently http://sourceforge.net/projects/meos/ using msdos-compatible as its base [05:23] eww msdos [05:24] troy (~troy@as119-120.tontut.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:25] hmm interesting [05:25] Action: troy randomly high fives his slackware peeps, then disappears into his cave again [05:25] troy (troy@as119-120.tontut.fi) left ##slackware. [05:25] i'll have to translate their main site and have a look [05:26] http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmeos.sourceforge.net%2F&sl=auto&tl=en [05:27] That is definetley an interesting project. thanks for the link [05:27] np...how complete..couldn't tell ya,stinky. [05:28] used .pak for package extentions [05:28] uses* [05:31] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:32] can't hurt to try it in a vm. only 310 meg [05:33] true [05:35] Zordrak: I think I made a minimal kernel for vbox, and I think I don't know where the config is =) [05:35] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:38] gah, the touchpad is really horribly slow in xorg-1.8, I'll definitely have to make it faster =/ [05:38] KN13v3l (~knievel@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:42] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.127) joined ##slackware. [05:42] adrien: zcat /proc/config.gz |) [05:43] Zordrak: the problem is that I don't know where the virtual machines are ;p [05:43] lol [05:46] adrien: Is there a .Virtualbox in your home folder? [05:47] MLanden: yeah, it's still here but I haven't used vbox here for ages [05:47] well, months actually [05:47] ahh....ok [05:49] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.84.205) joined ##slackware. [05:50] an age past.. .an age long gone... turning, wheel, bla bla... wind, bla... [05:50] get a move on, Sanderson! [05:53] adaptr: what's the Sanderson ref from? sounds familiar [05:54] anyone using gitosis or gitolite? I might make a slackbuild for gitolite [05:56] I use gitosis [05:56] MLanden: he's supposed to finish WHeel of Time before the end of 2011.. two more 1000-page books to go! [05:56] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:57] adrien: haven't tried gitolite, but I think alienBOB uses it [05:57] nader (~nader@85.133.204.122) joined ##slackware. [05:58] nader (nader@85.133.204.122) left ##slackware. [05:59] adaptr: ahh...Brandon....right,thanks [06:00] yeah, him [06:03] pprkut: ok, thanks, I don't need it right now, only in the following days so I'll see [06:05] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] hey, Q: if i get rid of gettext (i18n) does that mean i cant see non-en text? [06:06] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:06] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:06] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] mcury (~mcury@189.24.63.199) joined ##slackware. [06:08] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [06:08] powtrix, I'm leaving work now. good luck with the usb wifi [06:09] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [06:09] mlandon if i get rid of gettext (i18n) does that mean i cant see non-en text? [06:09] DallaRosa (~t7DS@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Quit: OH SHIT!\$@#\$ My mom caught me using t7DS!   [www.t7ds.com.br] [06:11] SunTzu: what do you see? [06:12] i'm making stuff; i wanna get rid of stuff i dont need [06:12] i'm-a proud meerkin uniglot [06:12] :) [06:12] nader (~nader@85.133.204.122) joined ##slackware. [06:13] SunTzu: alrighty then...enjoy the "toupée"...X_X [06:14] why? [06:14] adrien, cpu-freq is now working with "ondeman" governor, I had to recompile my kernel and boot with initrd.gz on lilo, ty [06:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b darkwurm!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:15] ondemand [06:15] i just need utf8 [06:15] SunTzu: sorry...me(e)rkin...slip of the tongue [06:16] american [06:16] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] darkwurm (~darkwurm@74-60-23-105.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Changing host [06:16] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [06:19] mcury: good to hear, temps dropped? [06:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b darkwurm!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:20] darkwurm kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Please fix your client and PM phrag when correct [06:20] adrien, yes, pc is on almost 12 hours and the highest temperature so far was 45 C [06:22] ouyuu (~hpo3@218.193.181.155) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:23] SunTzu, slackhut.com [06:23] I had to change my cputype from generic x86_64 to core2/xeon/new, and make some changes in Power management, changed the default governor to ondemand [06:24] idk why it's not ondemand by default [06:25] stinky, ondemand is the default in slackware if your box is a laptop. [06:25] stinky, see /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [06:25] oh rly? it detects the difference? [06:26] there is an option that changes if a battery is detected [06:26] in rc.modules [06:26] oh i see [06:26] yeah, if you have battery, you're a laptop :) [06:26] =) [06:26] midoatata (~midoatata@78.101.51.156) joined ##slackware. [06:26] midoatata (midoatata@78.101.51.156) left ##slackware. [06:26] what if I install slackware onto my hybrid automobile? [06:27] will it be ondemand? ;P [06:27] see rc.modules. [06:27] it's pretty commented. [06:27] slackmobile [06:27] haha [06:27] nice [06:27] I think arming it would work too :) [06:27] sweet [06:28] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [06:28] god noes i hate cpu ticks when trying to dloy a balistick missle when running late for work [06:28] deploy [06:28] pprkut, noticed you in #systemd, is it assessed for possible entry in slackware, or are you there for private reasons? [06:29] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] lol...carputer....hmmm,with the arm kit...not that far off,pprkut...;) [06:30] slava_dp: personal interest [06:31] ok [06:33] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:33] nader (~nader@85.133.204.122) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:34] ouyuu (~hpo3@218.193.181.155) joined ##slackware. [06:35] slava_dp whats there? [06:39] hmm, what does everyone suggest for a filesystem for usb flash drive <= 8GB besides fat(32)? [06:40] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [06:40] ffs maybe? [06:40] mcury (~mcury@189.24.63.199) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:41] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [06:41] i'm looking for something with less fragmentation though doesn't journal to avoid disk thrashing [06:41] minixfs :) [06:41] read lwn articles re fs/ [06:41] serious? i haven't heard of it [06:41] NEWBIE ALERT! [06:42] read lwn [06:42] a mag [06:42] a magazine? [06:42] yea online [06:42] .net [06:42] Tadgy (~tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) joined ##slackware. [06:43] i know what minix is for petes sake [06:43] k [06:43] i was thinking you meant mini xfs [06:43] provisionally accept claim :) [06:43] heh [06:43] ^^ [06:44] though mini xfs would be cool if there was such a thing i'm sure. XD [06:45] rworkman: ok - issue with the intel driver and system settings when eye candy turned on. seems to be ok with your xorg-1.8 upgrade, though [06:46] so it looks like it's something in the slackware-13.1 (32-bit) drive [06:46] r [06:46] unless it's because I'm running a dell studio 64-bit laptop and slackware-13.1 32-bit setup [06:46] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.127) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:47] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*cpunch*@* expired. [06:47] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*cpunch*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:56] jake_ (~jake@92.17.199.194) joined ##slackware. [06:58] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [07:00] alisonken1noc, I'm running slack64, have the same crashing with effects on. [07:00] so 1.8 solved it, eh? [07:00] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:00] so far [07:01] well robby's packages ship an updated intel driver as well, so might be that. oh well, at least it works.\ [07:09] i haven't had any crashing with X on my netbook lately [07:09] with intel 945 [07:09] running e17 [07:09] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:09] 32 bit of course [07:20] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [07:21] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:22] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:22] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Nick change: x-ip -> x-ip__ [07:32] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:34] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:35] fallen (PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left ##slackware. [07:37] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.143) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:37] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*cpunch*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:37] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:39] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:39] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.30) joined ##slackware. [07:41] is there a tool to handle camera? [07:42] handle as in? [07:42] jumperboy (jumperboy@gl206.websiteproject.net) left ##slackware. [07:44] my pc has one and i want it work. [07:44] ok - quick check is first to see if your camera is available. lsusb and see if it's listed [07:45] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) joined ##slackware. [07:45] do i need special drive and software? [07:46] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:52] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.71) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:53] iceheart: depends on the camera, but mine worked out of the box [07:54] most usb cameras appear to work ootb with video4linux stuff nowadays [07:54] iceheart: you could test with skype. I just plugged in mine, nothing else, and skype picked it up [07:56] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.79.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:56] skype is a drive? rachael [07:57] um no skype is a communication program that allows video chat [07:57] might be able to play with it in vlc as well [07:58] kryptoz (~kryptoz@221.135.191.222) joined ##slackware. [07:59] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:59] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [08:00] skype is not a drive - but it will check if your camera works [08:00] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:00] raela, how's the AP working? [08:00] "mplayer tv://1" might also work [08:00] as a camera check [08:01] rob0: ssh works great (I even somewhat remembered commands when I had to redo it instead of completely lookin them up :P). tried very briefly to get it online with 2-3 things trhodes suggested trying, but they didn't work and it didn't bother me that much [08:01] installed sshfs and that did what I needed [08:05] Not having direct Internet access is an indirect way to secure it. :) No one will bother you since they can't do anything interesting. :) [08:06] iceheart: tvtime and wxcam both work for mine. It was strange that web based (flash) would not recognize my camera until i installed tvtime and got it working in that by selecting the correct input source. [08:07] yep, and it's not like I need both online while at home [08:07] iceheart: wxcam is a decent general purpose webcam tool. [08:14] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [08:14] _misfit_ (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] <_misfit_> bah, utf8 failz [08:15] thanks all, it works ^_^ [08:16] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:19] _misfit_ (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:21] (##slackware) Channel ban on darkwurm!*@* expired. [08:21] ##slackware: mode change '-b darkwurm!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:26] jake_ (~jake@92.17.199.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:27] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [08:34] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [08:36] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:37] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:37] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hep hep hep; i need to use perl to test if a file is -r (test's) how? [08:39] probably easy to google [08:39] prolaby, but i wanna chat too :) [08:39] interactive hep [08:40] google'd be faster [08:40] dont be stingy with your knowlege [08:40] if you know someth then pls answer [08:40] I don't have the knowledge. I'd have to google. I would google if it were my question [08:40] then dont talk to me [08:40] ignored [08:40] haha [08:40] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [08:40] anyone else? [08:40] raela: this is why SunTzu is on the red-tag list [08:41] SunTzu: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=perl+file+tests [08:41] Zordrak: makes perfect sense [08:44] someone uses digikam from SBo in 13.1? I have problem, segfault [08:47] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:49] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-pazwsbaotpupyrfi) joined ##slackware. [08:50] good morning from Houston Texas everybody [08:51] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.71) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:51] bbl [08:51] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-68-218-130.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:52] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [08:53] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:00] Zordrak: hey! where you been, holiday? [09:00] yeah.. took a week and a half off [09:00] do anything nice? [09:00] camping, dog-sitting.. nothing special [09:00] just a nice bit of relaxation time [09:00] ah cool, camping takes me back to my childhood, good times =) [09:01] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.84.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:01] Zordrak: you heard about this gunman on the loose in newcastle? he used to bouncer over the road from my work o.0 [09:01] now just sat on my arse waiting for certain undisclosed fecal matter to connect with the proverbial corporate fan [09:01] ha [09:02] then i'll be back to a personal load average exceeding 10.0 [09:02] when you get to a load average over 1.5K, let me know :) [09:03] psh.. hyperbole is no substitute [09:04] no hyperbole - I get servers that hit that on average due to customer drag/drop php scripts onto our servers - predominantly wordpress plugins [09:04] indeed.. but id like to see a demonstration of *personal* load average over around 50 [09:05] i usually work somewhere between 3.0 and 15.0 [09:07] Think I am almost done playing guinee pig with debian and gentoo here , it just aint slackware :( had hoped I could use this powermac g5 instead of my old p4 workstation [09:07] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:07] uva (as@111-240-213-99.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:08] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [09:10] rachael: it took you this long to realise? [09:11] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:12] uva (as@111-240-228-246.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] i had a p4 as my main box until last year.. it ran 24/7/365 for 6 years.. was a little workhorse.. it got trumped by a shiny new i7 >< [09:13] Sounds like my box [09:13] well I am born optimist [09:14] except I didn't keep it on all the time [09:14] phrag: did starting disk writes slow the thing down much? [09:14] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:15] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] dorko_the_clown (~noobfarm@bishop.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:18] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-227.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] I bring my 5 year old laptop with me to work every day.. though I mostly ssh from it [09:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:22] Awesome!! Nigel Mansell will be the fourth steward at Silverstone! [09:23] raela: from that, what, 3/5 of the screen left? :P [09:24] NaCl: yeah.. I've been bringing my new laptop to work this week since someone is up from florida to look at data [09:24] of course. :P [09:24] I figured I'd save her the glory. I did show her a picture, but I thik it's better in person [09:24] *think [09:24] NaCl: now you mention it, yeah.. disk access was much slower than i'm used to now [09:24] of course, got to please the "customers" [09:25] kryptoz (~kryptoz@221.135.191.222) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:25] although am using an SSD now... but comparive to other machines disk access [09:25] phrag: not really that, more like it would slow down *everything else* [09:25] she's the main researcher :P she has been looking at this trait for years and did all the wetlab for the current data [09:25] i don't upgrade anything before it stops working [09:26] i still have a 486/66 dx2 dns server [09:26] phrag: it would peg the CPU at something high and would cause X to lag like crazy [09:26] Skywise: would you upgrade this? http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/raelakoira/line.jpg [09:26] that's funny, be exploiting ubuntu's MOTD (of all things) people could root the shadow passwd file [09:27] mancha: link? [09:27] raela, thats a neat racing stripe you got there [09:27] Skywise: not upgrade worthy though? what about this, two years down the road http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1378/may2010lines.jpg [09:28] ouch [09:28] brokey [09:28] I could make a progression of lcd damage with dates and images :P [09:28] a little webpage [09:28] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [09:28] wtf are you rendering! [09:29] you just need to replace the lcd [09:29] i'm sure the cpu is fine [09:29] eh what? it's the 5 year old laptop (though the first line appear after 3 years or so) [09:29] well, funky things happen if you push on a corner of the case, but yeah, I still use this laptop daily [09:29] you can pick up replacements off ebay [09:29] they're cheap and its not too hard to install [09:29] actually stores sell cheaper than ebay. I periodically look [09:30] I'll probably buy when they drop down to $100 again [09:30] i have an email, but basically, a flaw in ubuntu's pam_motd module [09:30] current cheapest is $120 [09:30] i bough ta thinkpad off ebay, the screen had dead pixels and she thought it was fuct.. i bought it with 3 years warrenty left and got it completely refurbished, new screen and everything [09:30] you should see how many are in stock, they won't allways be in production [09:31] I've been checking for a few months now [09:32] there are lots of places still selling, they just haven't dipped back to $100 that I've seen [09:32] thats cool, you just don't wanna wait too late [09:33] i was waiting to buy new subframe bushings for my car and when i finally got around to ordering them, they were the last pair in the country and no more were being made [09:33] i thought there were plenty [09:33] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.84.205) joined ##slackware. [09:35] well, at least with the laptop, no matter what an external screen would work [09:35] afk, need to head into the lab [09:35] cya [09:42] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:46] uva (as@111-240-228-246.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:49] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:03] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:04] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:04] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:05] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:05] sbs (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Disconnected by services [10:05] sbs` (~sbs@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] sbs` (~sbs@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [10:05] sbs` (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.101) joined ##slackware. [10:09] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:09] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:09] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [10:10] So come up to the lab, and sssssee what's on the slab. I see you shiver with antici [10:11] no rocky horror in the daytime please [10:11] pation. [10:11] rob0: okay you had me freaked out that my screen was truncating [10:11] jerk :P [10:11] lol [10:11] your poor monitor [10:11] I reattached it and resized the window several times [10:12] lol [10:12] actually I'm on the newer laptop now, but you never know what can go wrong on one of my boxen [10:12] i guess you're just not old enough to know abou tit [10:12] I know about it, I just haven't seen it [10:13] its not worth downloading or renting [10:13] I've seen it dozens of times, but only ever heard the dialog and lyrics after getting the DVD. [10:13] its the audience participation that makes the movie [10:14] it's like a big party [10:14] yeah [10:14] I've also heard horrible things happen to the first timers :P [10:14] haha [10:14] what?!!! [10:14] i've never heard such nonsense [10:15] its just they usually don't come prepared, and i'll leave it at that [10:16] someone even showed me youtube videos! [10:16] I was nervous, because I had read about it in Newsweek, and that freaked me out. But after I tasted RHPS I wanted more (more, more, more.) [10:17] And that's just one small fraction [10:17] i first went in college [10:17] of the main attraction [10:17] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:17] yeah well I have few friends and fear people so I don't think I'll be going any time soon :P [10:18] talking like that will only make you more attractive on this channel [10:18] lol [10:19] raela is trying to seduce people on irc again? damn, she never stops! [10:20] yeah, if she says she likes men who smell like cheese, they'll be eating out of the palm of her hand [10:22] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:22] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:22] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:22] I am not trying to seduce people! there was nothing hinting at it there! [10:22] thats all it takes [10:23] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:24] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:24] red_blue (~nihao@114.83.84.205) joined ##slackware. [10:25] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.84.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:31] the us military's new cyber command has encluded an encrypted code in its logo that was broken 7 mins after being posted on slashdot [10:31] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] included [10:31] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:31] it was just an md5 hash of its mission statement [10:32] funny [10:32] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/07/08/126228/Crack-the-Code-In-US-Cyber-Commands-Logo?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 [10:33] cmdl1n3 (~richard@240.3.65-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Howdy [10:33] hi [10:34] Hi Sky [10:35] Skywise: dunno about you, but it has always been hard for me to keep from giggling at Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick in any serious role. [10:35] lol [10:35] or tim curry [10:35] Thelma and toucha-toucha-touch-me Louise [10:35] i always see him in torn fishnets [10:35] Tim Curry never has been the superstar he should be. [10:35] no, thats true [10:36] he's such a big personality [10:36] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:36] He's a good actor and can sing pretty well too. Or was, I guess he's pretty old now. [10:36] he recently did a cameo in monk [10:37] he was in a fat suit, but he didn't look too bad [10:37] kinda like tom jones [10:37] used to look [10:37] not like he looks now [10:37] he's very good in "The Color of Magic" [10:37] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) left irc: Quit: chomping [10:38] He was in the Muppet's Treasure Island. Being a Muppet movie, it was supposed to be funny anyway. [10:38] Who Tom Jones or Tim Curry? [10:38] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:38] rofl [10:39] its tim, but seing tom in that role would of been as funny [10:39] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:40] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Client Quit [10:40] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:41] tim curry was in the movie red october [10:41] Playing the scardy-cat doctor... [10:41] scared-y cat [10:41] i think i would of rather had tim curry do the new charlie and the chocolate factory [10:42] I think Depp did a good job... [10:42] He's good at 'slightly crazy' characters [10:42] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Client Quit [10:42] but tim is better at being mad [10:42] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[10:56] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:58] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:59] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@70.227.162.173) joined ##slackware. [11:00] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:03] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [11:03] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:05] biker (~biker@187.146.82.36) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:05] I wouldn't call tim curry in red october a 'scaredy cat; doctor - more like a "clueless doctor" :) [11:05] and he did very well. not to mention he was pretty good in the shadow as well [11:05] and who could forget rocky horror picture show [11:07] forget? some people just haven't seen it :P [11:07] another helping of curry please! slut! asshole! [11:08] brainvision (~brainvisi@host231-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Rocky Horror what? [11:09] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:09] arfon: you have not seen RHPS? [11:10] ok more like exp RHPS. cause with out rain coats and water pistols it just don't make sense. [11:10] I'm not folowing you.... :) [11:10] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6827163268088648679# [11:11] fuck the helmet laws; sing it fat boy! [11:12] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:12] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] mancha: do you have an nvidia card? does vlc have vdpau support? [11:13] no and yes [11:13] cmdl1n3 (~richard@240.3.65-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:13] how can I know dependencies of each package? [11:13] k, thanks [11:13] nader: do a full install and dont worry about them [11:13] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-3.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] panzer: raincoat? No way. Use a newspaper like the rest of us. [11:14] sahko: I did it, but wanna know [11:14] A TOAST ... to absent friends. [11:15] Action: SpartanVI raises a glass [11:15] rob0: nuts [11:15] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:15] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:16] arfon: http://www.rockyhorror.com/ [11:16] and yes - that's timi curry in the middle with the vest on [11:17] tim curry rather [11:17] what does fat albert say? [11:17] hey-hey-hey [11:17] hah [11:17] I used to have bill cosby live album in my younger days :) [11:18] pre-cd days [11:18] on a 78 lp? [11:18] jgor (~jgor@loki.indiecom.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:19] 8 Track. [11:19] 33-1/3 - I'm not _that_ old :) [11:20] although I did have an 8-track of jethro tull before my sister ran over it. accidentally, of course [11:20] aqualung [11:20] yep [11:20] brainvision (~brainvisi@host231-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [11:20] jgor (~jgor@loki.indiecom.org) joined ##slackware. [11:20] brainvision (~brainvisi@host231-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:22] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:24] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.101) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.101) joined ##slackware. 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[12:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Nick change: afk|Roin -> Roin [12:22] Who was/is Punches? [12:22] why are you guys still talking about him ? [12:24] Because we know it winds him up when we diss him :) [12:25] He has so little self-esteem that he needs validation from everyone. If we don't give it to him, maybe he'll go get the psychological help he really needs. [12:26] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Tadgy: the only problem with that is he's banned from here - so he won't see anything from us :) [12:27] alisonken1home: yes that was me [12:27] alisonken1home: I closed it out [12:28] wai9t [12:28] what was his other nickname? [12:28] (i just reattached) and how did you catch him [12:28] Dominian: was just curious since the nick was logged in from bishop :) [12:28] 72.95.96.226 ? 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[12:41] bbiab [12:41] Nick change: chocho -> interceptor [12:42] lol [12:42] so lame [12:42] Action: adrien doubts jeev has no shell access [12:42] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:42] "no shell access" or "shell access" ? [12:43] I have a very old monitor (samsung cvl-4955), the only graphics I can see is the BIOS logo hehe. what resolution should work? 640x480x8 didn't work [12:43] no ;-) [12:43] powtrix: and "normal" instead? [12:43] powtrix: is it a 13" CRT? ;-) [12:43] 14 [12:43] close enough [12:43] :P [12:43] sure it's not a green screen? [12:43] no [12:43] 1995? [12:44] maybe 97 [12:44] ok [12:44] yeah.. years ago :P [12:44] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:44] I can see the tux kernel log [12:45] logo [12:45] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] tried "vga=normal"? [12:46] lilo.conf is working with vga=785, 640x480x64k [12:46] I want to config Xorg.conf [12:47] ah, ok [12:47] you have another screen? you can read the output of 'xrandr'? [12:47] I could run it and kill X after [12:48] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:48] maybe doing xrandr > log; ctrl-alt-f2 and kill X [12:51] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:51] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] but what do you get on screen? and which driver? [12:52] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:53] the image distorts [12:53] nader (nader@85.133.204.122) left ##slackware. [12:53] howto remove package .bin [12:54] younes: see if it has an uninstall option - it's not a slackware package [12:54] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] i want example [12:55] rm package .bin [12:55] LOL [12:55] reinstall the .bin, then see which files it installed so you can remove them [12:57] jake_ (~jake@92.17.187.131) joined ##slackware. [12:58] younes: Try rm -rf /bin [12:58] sahko: I've just installed on the system [12:58] Tadgy: thats disaster and fuckin stupid [12:58] I can boot up the 32 bit DVD but when I try to boot the 64 bit DVD it just restarts while loading up (doesn't get to login) - I am trying to boot on an intel dual core CPU [12:58] s/disaster/sisasterus [12:58] sahko: Well, d'uh. [12:58] disasterus* [12:59] or whatever [12:59] Tadgy: then stop telling people to use it. d'uh [13:00] Tadgy: do not give that advice ever again in this channel [13:00] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F3E5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] !! [13:01] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) joined ##slackware. [13:02] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] alienBOB, curious how much your PC has been chugging away at KDE this month :p yet another RC ? [13:04] i didn't realize the next rc was so quick [13:07] thrice`: almost done with 4.5-rc2 indeed [13:08] interceptor (1000@93.155.208.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:09] neat :) I am quite happy with 4.4, but think I'll finally move with this rc :> [13:12] it doesn't seem to matter how careful I am, I always seem to break the KDE panels beyodn repair [13:13] younes (~quassel@41.140.94.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:13] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:13] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:14] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:14] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:14] ok I lost my taskbar in kde 4.4.3 [13:14] how do I get it back? [13:14] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:15] Teratogen, add it as widget to panel [13:16] is plasma still in-tact Teratogen ? [13:16] I think I am just gonna restart X [13:19] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:19] 1 [13:19] if it doesn't work, the radical way: kquitapp plasma-desktop && rm .kde/share/config/plasma-desktop* && plasma-desktop [13:20] but you'll lost all your plasma setup [13:21] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:21] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. 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[13:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [13:40] revel0__ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:41] Teratogen (leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] hey, when I maximize windows in kde 4 now [13:42] they don't fill the entire window [13:42] they refuse to cover the cashews in the upper left and and right hand corners [13:42] how do I fix this? [13:43] cashews as in nuts? [13:43] well they look like cashews [13:49] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [13:49] good afternoon [13:49] good people, anyone here ever tried using "aget"? [13:49] (on slackware, of course) [13:54] (aget is a CLI threaded downloader. Quite like wget, but it can make multiple connections to one site) [13:54] Kenjiro: Then you shouldn't use it. [13:55] Multiple concurrent connections don't get files any faster - they just stop someone else from downloading if user limits are in force. [13:55] jhw (~jhw@p579828A9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:55] jhw (~jhw@p579828A9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Tadgy: I know that [13:57] Tadgy: not entirely true. [13:57] Tadgy: but in this case...multiple connections would get the file faster [13:57] if you use a protocol such as bittorrent, which can break the file into pieces per connection, its much faster [13:57] are you doing a torrent... [13:58] too late [13:58] gniks has it [13:58] Torrents are a different thing entirely. [13:58] yes, which makes me wonder why "in this case" kenjiro says it would be faster [13:58] You're not "multiple connections to one site" with the bittorrent protocol. [13:59] what are the specifics of the case/usage/application, Kenjiro? [13:59] that doesn't matter [13:59] if you were multiple connections to the same site, the result is the same (bandwidth being equal on both sides) [14:00] Exactly. So multiple concurrent connections are pointless. You're limited by the available bandwidth (either yours or the sources) [14:00] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F3E5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:00] no they are not pointless [14:01] Prove it. [14:01] http://www.silver-peak.com/calculator/ have fun [14:01] calculate your per flow (connection) bandwidth [14:01] shonudo: my friend hosted a file on a server. I am downloading it but I am getting about 20KB/s [14:01] that may be at the server end, Kenjiro [14:01] Kenjiro: which protocol are you using? [14:01] gniks: http [14:02] how far are you from the server? [14:02] if I use a multithreaded downloader... I believe I can get it faster, like... 4 connections at about 20KB/s, for example [14:02] if this ends up involving a short trek and a flash drive, i'm going to lmao (just saying) [14:02] gniks: quite far I'd say *grin* [14:02] Kenjiro: axel can do what aget does as far as i can tell. and probably even better [14:02] shonudo: another country ;) [14:03] heh [14:03] lol [14:03] gniks: You really need to learn how networking works. If you have a set amount of bandwith (lets say 10Mb/sec) and you download using one connection, you'll get close to 100% of that bandwidth. [14:03] okay [14:03] If you download using two connections, you get less than %50 on each. [14:03] Because of the TCP overhead and packet fragmentation. [14:03] Tadgy: i know exactly how networks work [14:03] and aria2 too [14:03] njathan (~njathan@203.115.80.164) joined ##slackware. [14:03] You're doubling the overhead by using two connections. Ergo, it's not faster. [14:03] multithreaded downloaders work for a reason [14:03] jjholt (~root@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Tadgy: at home I have a 2mbps adsl. I can get a maximum of 200+KB/s on a download. Of course it depend on the server, its bandwidth, etc [14:04] gniks: Prove my math wrong. [14:04] you are doubling the overhead yes, but you are pushing more of the file at the same time [14:04] No you're not. [14:04] You're getting the same TOTAL data (ignoring the overhead for a minute) [14:04] mcury (~mcury@189.24.76.215) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Because thats the maximum you can pull due to bandwidth [14:05] Tadgy: in fact... no [14:05] (in my case) [14:05] 10Mb / 2 = ? [14:05] 10Mb / 1 = ? [14:05] The same. [14:05] no no, that's not the case [14:05] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:06] if my another friend downloads from his home (another country), he would get a much faster download speed/rate/whatever [14:06] 100Mbps 5ms latency, .2% loss = 52.23Mbps per flow, ergo you can have two flows to speed up the process. [14:06] in this case the problem is not the server bandwidth [14:07] i hope you're downloading during this conversation [14:07] I do know that if I was using all my bandwidth (or the server's) then trying something like that (multi connection) would be stupid [14:07] because even at 1kbps, this conversation may take longer [14:07] shonudo: sure thing, with wget *LOL* [14:07] :) [14:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:07] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Kenjiro: what is your internet download speed? [14:08] I'm not going to argue. There's a reason my mirror forces max 2 connections per IP. [14:08] gniks: 2mbps, so sometimes I can get up to 220-230KB/s [14:08] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-8-173.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:08] Tadgy: that's a good idea ;) [14:08] And that will soon go down to one. [14:09] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Tadgy: maybe you should get a more reliable connection instead of passing your incompetence off as how networks work [14:10] shonudo: I am at work, the download is happening at home ;) [14:10] mcury (~mcury@189.24.76.215) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:10] let me try and download the file from here, just to see what happens [14:10] Kenjiro: what file are you trying to downlaod? [14:11] Tadgy: there you go... downloading from work I am getting 40+KB/s [14:11] gniks: a zip file my friend uploaded there for me [14:12] gniks: and no, it's not warez, porn or anything like that [14:12] lulz i figured [14:12] if it were warez, I could get from a much faster source *LOL* [14:12] *it was [14:13] totally [14:13] well... let's see that aria2 thingy then [14:13] gniks: See, all I heard there was "yada yada". [14:13] thats fine& you don't have to believe the math [14:14] gniks: believe in gnomes :D [14:14] but when you add on 30  60ms latency which is average for most people, then multiple flows REALLY begins to be beneficial& latency will kill your per connection bandwidth faster than anything [14:15] fuzzbawl_ (~fuzzbawl@216.23.240.44) joined ##slackware. [14:15] 100Mpbs, 25ms 0% loss = 20.97Mbps flows [14:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-11-218.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:32] could you do me a favor? I left a vm for rworkman, I need to move it to a different rack. It's in danger of being squished :D [14:33] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. [14:33] Orlov (~Richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:34] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:35] Orlov (~Richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] gniks: how weird! I am using aria2 and now my download speed came up from 20KB/s to 150KB/s [14:35] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:35] gniks: weird huh? :P [14:35] oh look, i must be wrong ;) [14:35] cause network engineers dont' know how networks work [14:35] lulz [14:36] and they talk too much [14:36] not i MI they don't, haha [14:37] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) joined ##slackware. [14:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:37] anyway... once again thanks for helping [14:38] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:38] I got the slackbuild for aria2 and everything is working just fine [14:38] thanks guys [14:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:38] awesome [14:38] welcome [14:39] stell (~stell@93.188.8.31) joined ##slackware. [14:39] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) left ##slackware. [14:39] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) joined ##slackware. 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Maybe the USB cable is bad? [14:58] i get that error 4 times then i get: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 [14:58] then it starts the fsck [15:00] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [15:00] chee (~root@unaffiliated/chee) joined ##slackware. [15:00] lol [15:01] chee (root@unaffiliated/chee) left ##slackware ("?> =^o^= <3"). [15:01] didnt realize that was funny [15:02] thats not a 'your hd is about to die' warning is it? [15:04] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:05] they never saw what you said [15:05] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] nordwind (~nordwind@217.8.236.129) joined ##slackware. [15:07] eddie_grey (~shogun@189.26.179.132.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:07] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-8.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[15:20] Nick change: Blablabla -> Kenjiro [15:21] alienBOB: ouch :) [15:23] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] eddie_grey (~shogun@189.26.179.132.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:24] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:26] it's ok, it's not too hot right now... [15:26] Kenjiro: luckily only 3 package rebuilds [15:27] adrien: it was 32 degrees centigrade here today [15:27] alienBOB: I'm in Paris, I think it's as roughly as bad (dunno if it's worse or not) ;-) [15:28] it was 38 degrees here. [15:28] 29 degrees at night. [15:28] Not good [15:28] Forecast for Sao Paulo (BR): Thu: Mostly Clear Low: 57F/13.89C High: 78F/25.56C Fri: Sunny Low: 57F/13.89C High: 77F/25.00C [15:29] nice weather there :) [15:29] we should get 23C at nights in the next days, and the thunderstorms won't really help lower that [15:29] I think I'm going to live on a boat and sail around the world to keep nice temps [15:30] adrien: too bad if you need internet connection all the time :P [15:31] I'm sure I can get a good connection in harbours ;-) [15:31] fuzzbawl_ (~fuzzbawl@216.23.240.44) left irc: Quit: Erp. So that's what kill %1 does! [15:33] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:33] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:33] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:34] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [15:34] nader (~nader@85.133.204.122) joined ##slackware. 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He has been abusing the shell account on melug which he was only given access to for admin tasks, not for starting irc spam sessions [15:54] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-176-4-179.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] There is no more to it. You can ask him yourself [15:55] I am not a melug member so I am indifferent to the abuse [15:55] I'm just confused because well.. I'm in Maine to be honest [15:55] coincidence ;) [15:57] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:57] alienBOB, only 3, but isn't one of them the base? that is one of the worst :) [15:58] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-176-4-179.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-3.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:59] thrice = chris punchers [15:59] stell (stell@93.188.8.31) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:59] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. 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[16:10] sahko: nope, I lack the time (or rather the CPU power) to build more, due to the rapid succession of KDE 4.4 and 4.5 releases [16:11] And I hate amarok, so you will not see packages from me [16:11] hah, nice to know [16:11] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [16:11] s/hate/can't work with/ [16:11] Action: thrice` wouldn't be offended if Pat removed it either :o [16:12] hi all, i've upgrade to 13.1 on eeepc and now X do not start anymore (i think its i915 driver + kms is related but don't know where can i find more info about it) [16:12] It has the worst user interface under the sun I have ever encountered [16:12] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:12] danillo (danillo@201.28.121.154) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:12] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-41-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:13] archcezar (1000@age191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[16:19] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:19] anyone familiar with xbox gamepads on linux+ [16:19] s/+/?/ [16:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:20] sahko: yes, i start on console by default, and then manually run "startx", then, black screen, and after a while exits [16:20] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:20] I just downgraded back to cups 1.3.11 in order to be able to print again. Everything else is current, but cups 1.4.X screws me. [16:21] asamoah: theres some reports of this on the LQ Slackware forum. see for example this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/slackware-13-1-blank-screen-intel-kms-modeset-811166/ [16:21] theres probably others too [16:21] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] ok i'll take a look at this [16:22] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:23] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427654.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:24] brainvision (~brainvisi@host231-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:25] sahko: thank you, seem that KMS is buggy with intel newer drivers.. [16:26] it works pretty fine on mine [16:26] at least with kernel 2.6.33.4 [16:26] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:26] sahko: which kernel and intel driver are you using? [16:26] tekzilla (~jon@d086230.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:27] all Slackware 13.1 defaults [16:27] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:27] my 965 works nicely too on the stock kernel [16:27] also on a eeepc? [16:27] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [16:27] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:27] yes, eeepc 1000 [16:28] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:29] 99/j #linux [16:29] O.o [16:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:29] any special line on lilo? [16:29] no vga, no video, etc.. modeset=1? [16:30] nope. just vga=normal [16:30] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [16:30] tekzilla (~jon@d069114.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Okay. In order to regain printing capability, I've had to roll back to the last stable cups- from SW64-13.0. In order to not lose my new found printing capability, I've had to add cups-* to my EXCLUDE= under slapt-getrc. [16:31] then something was broken or wrong on my upgrade process.. [16:33] Any one done an install on a Sony Picturebook lately? It boots the DVD/CD fine, but will not detect for install. I've tried "ide1=0x180,0x386" and "nopcmcia", and various other google generated ideas to no avail. [16:34] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] booting.txt and the faq don't have any obvious relevant ideas either (at least not obvious to me). [16:34] KN13v3l (~knievel@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) left irc: Changing host [16:34] KN13v3l (~knievel@unaffiliated/kn13v3l) joined ##slackware. [16:35] sahko: I see at syslog "kernel: composite sync not supported", does it sounds to you? [16:35] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:35] it's a PCMCIA DVD drive, fwiw [16:35] sahko: and while the screen is black, I also see on console+F1 "Protocol not supported by server" [16:38] brainvision (~brainvisi@host149-13-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:38] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hello [16:39] sahko: and finally, after 2 minutes this xinit gives up, unable to connect to X server [16:40] Nick change: fredoslack -> fredomint [16:40] no sorry, maybe you could ask in #xorg or some equivalent channel. #intel ? i dont know [16:41] I'm just installing slackware 13.1 with grub2. I used lvm partition. Actually I can boot and open a console session. But when I type mount I have the following error: mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable.... [16:41] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.101) joined ##slackware. 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[18:07] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [18:08] greetings.... wow...its sooooo quiet.... :( [18:08] it's oh so quiet [18:09] why what happened...where is everyone... [18:09] adrien: that was a Bjork reference, admit it! [18:09] hahahaha..... [18:09] Listening to moosic, we all are [18:10] Alien Noises from the sky [18:10] alienBOB: do you use mocp as your music player [18:10] http://moc.daper.net/ [18:10] adaptr: yes, it is ;-) [18:10] My music player varies. The icecast server at home is the constant factor [18:11] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/moc/ [18:11] aye ok [18:11] I use audacious or qmmp [18:11] never heard of it [18:11] Basically a port of xmms to Qt [18:11] aye ok [18:12] alienBOB: audacious is good choice [18:12] audacious gives you an awesome xfce theme for free [18:12] I even use xmms [18:12] alienBOB: do you broadcast the world with your icecast server? [18:12] Action: slackie hey buddies \o [18:12] dustybin: only to people who get a password [18:12] aye ok [18:12] Action: dustybin sniffs alienBOB [18:12] Action: alienBOB smeels [18:12] TMI [18:13] 10101411 41 4141914 test123 fj3f392f f32392 [18:13] i think i found it! [18:13] beetje ranzig daar [18:14] check this out [18:14] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/IMG_1604.JPG [18:14] does anybody know in extremo the band??? [18:14] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:14] that is a picture of my touch screen joggler, i can finger stuff on and off [18:15] m3tti: I have a lot of In Extremo stuff [18:15] they're greate [18:16] Indeed. Great, even [18:16] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] oh before i forget thanks alienBOB for the amd64 port :-) [18:17] :D [18:17] most distros have lots of people contributing to it, am i right in thinking that slackware has just a few people behind it? [18:18] dustybin: i hope there are some people behind the scenes [18:18] Only a few [18:18] theres like 3 and a spare [18:18] slackware is very efficient [18:19] haha thats interesting, if there only a few people, that will stop the distro turning into a mess :D [18:19] 3 including pat? [18:19] i was kiddin [18:19] theres at least 5 [18:20] right cos pat counts for 2 ;) [18:20] i think linus torvalds feels the same about kernel development, there are only a few top people who have control of what happens [18:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.242.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:21] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:21] i hope they start making the kernel smaller again...cos the size is starting to get bigger and bigger [18:21] The-Croupier: is that because of more hardware being released? [18:22] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:22] customizing the kernel is the best way to keep it small [18:22] Wiren (~iksf@cpe-72-229-231-106.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Skywise: how many people (not professionals) do do that [18:22] i've read torvalds wants to include more stability patches into the kernel and wants to stop the testing drivers in the main line kernel [18:23] what is a micro kernel ? [18:23] kernel panic-message scares the shit out of most people [18:23] Tadgy (~tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Hoogin1 (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [18:24] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-173.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:25] i would suspect a high percentage of slackware users are comfortable making their own custom kernel [18:25] but i suspect everyone concerned about a bloated kernel can [18:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-8.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:26] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:26] Oh noez! cannae constructs kernel! [18:26] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F3E5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:27] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [18:30] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:34] I hate how my father just signs me up for projects that take hours and hours off of the time I am working on my own programming projects, etc [18:34] Tasks are okay, but he doesnt even asks he just goes I'm getting some paintbrushes so you can paint the houss [18:34] house* [18:34] I have my own stuff I have to do [18:34] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F3E5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] or maybe I'm working on setting up my slackware server upstairs because I lost the others [18:35] Hi! My laptop is gonna dead, to use my warranty I need to crash (kill) it, do you have any ideas??? Thanks ;) [18:36] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:36] um... throw it out the window ? totally offtopic, by the way [18:36] Wiren: You want us to help you commit insurance fraud? How stupid do you think we are? :) [18:36] fatalnix: do you live in his house ? [18:37] do whatever it says not to do in the manual [18:37] adaptr: I do now, so he kindof has the right to say so, but the thing is I have to set up a portfolio for my job and junk [18:37] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:38] and I never made one for my old projects so I'm stuck doing more projects to make one now [18:38] fatalnix: then paint the house and shut up :) [18:38] he doesn't have "kind of" he right to ask it. [18:38] and I still pay 15% of my income [18:39] that's low [18:39] if you owned a house you would be paying 50% [18:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*bagira@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/bagira' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:39] probably more than that here [18:39] Any ideas?? [18:39] in Maine it's pretty high [18:40] lend your laptop to a gorilla [18:41] why a gorilla? [18:41] they seem pretty good with laptops [18:41] if they can rip your head off with two fingers, you think they won't total a laptop ? [18:41] Skywise: You shouldn't talk about Alan Cox like that :P [18:41] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:42] the -ac's do sometimes have a vaguely simian feel to them, I must say [18:43] Action: adaptr goes to boot one and check if it sekritly displays a gorilla instead of a penguin [18:43] rirombo (~rirombo@h28.5.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:43] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:44] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] nordwind (~nordwind@217.8.236.129) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [18:47] anyone reading following the postfix-users mailinglist? some great entertainment there. [18:47] -reading [18:48] gurtan (~gurtan@78.183.138.44) joined ##slackware. [18:49] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [18:51] Wiren (~iksf@cpe-72-229-231-106.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:52] gurtan (gurtan@78.183.138.44) left ##slackware. [18:53] not sure what kind of entertainment you mean [18:53] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:54] the dude asking for postfix on what distro best. hilarious. [18:54] as if hed change distros just for that. tsk. [18:54] misguided, perhaps. not sure I find anything particularly funny in it [18:54] but that could have everything to do with the fact he called me arrogant [18:55] you too? damn. now we have to fight for the title. [18:55] I don't see him calling you anything [18:56] his Q would only make sense if hes running a superlarge postfix install....which he clearly is not doing. so, any reply just makes him ask more questions. [18:56] off list, adaptr [18:57] it doesn't make any sense in any situation. the overhead of any particular distribution will be negligible when you load modern hardware up to the million-message-per-hour mark [18:57] which would be trivial to reach using quad-core xeons [18:57] but hed ask for multimillion messages. hes clearly nigerian. [18:57] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:57] oh I have some stored in long-term quarantine. he's welcome to them. only $5,000,000,99 each [18:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:58] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:58] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:7a6:dd71:4ab5:7967:32e1) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:59] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.50.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-173.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:00] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [19:00] hhgh (~hhgh@host217-41-27-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) joined ##slackware. [19:02] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:02] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.78.254.20) joined ##slackware. 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[19:10] <_misfit_> ive set LC_* to en_US.UTF-8, compiled libiconv [19:10] <_misfit_> epic5 supports utf-8 [19:11] <_misfit_> im using the terminus font which has utf8 characters [19:11] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7DAE7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] <_misfit_> TERM=linux, using rxvt-unicode terminal... i dunno what else is wrong [19:12] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:7a6:3873:fae5:38bd:3ee7) joined ##slackware. [19:12] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-172-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:14] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:15] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F3E5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:16] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-227-19.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] Hello People. [19:16] I am using sbopkg and trying to search for grub and it doesn't find it. [19:16] #sbopkg might be a better place to check [19:17] I realize it's not really a "slackware" utility. [19:17] oh that's cool. [19:17] :) [19:17] let me check. thank you. [19:17] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7DAE7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:17] grub is part of official slackware [19:17] it's slackwarebob! [19:17] so it won't be on SBo [19:17] =) [19:17] oh wait, so I should be able to just run grub? [19:17] slackwarebob: its in extra/ iirc [19:17] and theres always run to the hills [19:17] grub is grubby and you can't deny it [19:18] slackware, you need to install it, look in your /extra dir [19:18] _misfit_ (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : I'm outta here... [19:18] Action: jg71 'll never get the obsession with grub. [19:18] I may still have the .iso files. :) let me check in that.\ [19:21] or any online mirror [19:23] lol, hoping that I don't have to download the isos again. :) [19:23] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Don't follow me [19:23] there's just no shortcut, eh? [19:24] lol [19:24] just go to the /extra dir of a mirror [19:24] what's with the iso talk? :) [19:24] why would you have to download the iso....just do as mancha said [19:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) joined ##slackware. [19:26] ok, that makes sense. [19:26] in the world of apt-get install "blah" [19:26] sometimes you end up overthinking stuff. [19:27] my lcd went bad, so I'm trying to take the smallest amount of steps to get it going. :) Gonna install grub and hide slackware. Then get LCD replaced, then edit grub [19:27] cmon, if my nick were slackwarebob youd make me redownload the isos again. ;) [19:28] unless you guys can help me work on lilo to hide the "slackware" logo on boot and auto boot with 0 second to default of windows. [19:28] easy [19:29] oh, that would be even better. I was only gonna install grub, 'coz I know how to do all that in grub. [19:29] ok what do I do? [19:29] paste your lilo.conf, and *exactly* what you want [19:29] do you have youw Windows entry as "other" in lilo.conf? [19:29] rm -R / ? [19:29] j/k. [19:29] slackwarebob, you will be banned for that, fyi [19:30] lol. [19:30] I won't do the rm -r business. [19:30] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:30] slackwarebob, don't even paste those commands here, you never who will cut & paste them just to see what they do... [19:30] http://dpaste.com/216161/ [19:31] lilo.conf [19:31] add "default=Windows" at the beginning and comment out the line with "prompt" [19:32] i.e. add a hash mark to the start of line 31 [19:32] line 31 is the prompt line, correct? commented out. [19:32] xtr3m3 (~xtr3m3@87-194-25-59.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:33] xtr3m3 (~xtr3m3@87-194-25-59.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [19:33] default=Windows added right after boot=/dev/sda [19:33] I'll comment out the slackware boot image too. don't want the computer tech knowing there's slackware installed on. [19:33] run lilo and say "thanks mancha", in that order. [19:34] slackwarebob, why not just run the livecd? [19:34] I think it's called SLAX [19:34] running /sbin/lilo says, duplicate entry "default' at or above line 63. that should be fine, correct? [19:34] no [19:34] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:34] take out line 62 [19:35] cool. [19:35] or what is now line 63 i guess [19:36] Fatal: bmp-colors: value out of range [0,15] [19:36] if you don't want the menu, remove all of that stuff [19:36] command ran was: sudo /sbin/lilo [19:36] so you took out bitmap but left its colors? [19:36] hash out bmp-colors,bmp-table,bmp-timer, of course! [19:37] Orlov (~Richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:37] ok, it was because of the bitmap thing. [19:37] cool, I commented it all out. it ran with one warning. but that should be fine. correct? [19:37] Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed [19:37] hhgh (hhgh@host217-41-27-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:38] yes it's fine [19:38] ok, thanks mancha . [19:38] :) [19:38] ok :> [19:38] I will reboot and if things worked out fine, it will be a while before I can run irssi. thanks for your help you guys. have a nice day. [19:39] slackwarebob (bobby@adsl-76-249-227-19.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. 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[19:58] <_misfit_> im trying alias="LC_CTYPE=ibm850 epic5" but doesn't seem to change it [19:59] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] <_misfit_> also LANG=ibm850 epic5 is incorrect as well [20:00] tried LC_LANG? [20:00] <_misfit_> darn no go [20:00] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [20:01] LC_ALL? [20:01] <_misfit_> nope :( [20:01] <_misfit_> im using rxvt-unicode if that helps [20:01] <_misfit_> with a TERM=linux [20:02] is ibm850 actually a lang? Sounds like a font to me. [20:02] <_misfit_> its an encoding [20:02] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. [20:02] <_misfit_> like utf8 [20:02] what about LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 epic5 [20:03] er en_US.UTF-8 raher [20:03] <_misfit_> not sure it shows accented characters [20:03] <_misfit_> so i think that is working and/or the application supports utf8 [20:04] <_misfit_> but in order to render some themes properly i needs to be set to the ibm850 encoding [20:04] I'm not famliar with epic, but does it have a termcharset setting to set the charset? [20:04] like irrsi has [20:04] /set term_charset [20:05] <_misfit_> hmm ill have to look in the docs [20:05] I miss BitchX [20:05] BitchX rules! [20:05] <_misfit_> a quick check doesn't show it [20:05] and you shouldn't really need to set TERM=linux [20:05] that will have unexspected results [20:06] <_misfit_> ah ok [20:06] <_misfit_> just leave it as xterm? [20:06] even if I could spell it [20:06] it should be set to rxvt-unicode [20:06] automatically [20:06] <_misfit_> ah ok [20:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:07] i heard bitchx was being resurrected...don't lose hope? [20:08] did someone track down panasync? [20:08] I usually only mess with TERM to get curses applications like pkgtools to draw correctly, or when I'm sshing to a box without rxvt-unicode installed, and then I find setting it to rxvt is the best setting. [20:08] <_misfit_> ibm 850 charset reminds me of old bbs days [20:08] <_misfit_> dive ah interesting, ill unset term and let urxvt handle it [20:08] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:09] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:09] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [20:10] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.17) joined ##slackware. [20:10] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:11] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. 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[21:42] hell yea, lebron signed with me [21:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZDu4oeR_hs&playnext_from=TL&videos=RK1sL7cFS6U&feature=grec_index [21:46] hahahahahahah [21:46] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [21:48] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:48] rirombo (~rirombo@h43.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:52] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F726.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Dominian: pong [21:55] Razec (~razec@187.34.20.105) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:56] rworkman: PM? [21:56] goj (~goj@p4FE6B2D2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:57] Dominian: sure [21:59] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624193117] [22:00] hmm [22:01] rworkman's been getting a lot of penis massages lately [22:02] _skycrash_ (~sky@189.58.175.73.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:04] <_skycrash_> hey, anybody have problems in slack13.1 with a HIDE wireless network? [22:05] luciano (~luciano@189.58.126.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:05] <_skycrash_> hey, anybody have problems in slack13.1 with a HIDE wireless network? [22:06] mannynix (~mannynix@200.77.122.181) joined ##slackware. [22:06] what's a "HIDE" wireless network??? [22:06] danc3, I think it's suppose to be hidden [22:07] the opposite of a JEKYLL one [22:07] danc3: probably a network with a hidden SSID. Either that or a game of Hide and Seek. [22:07] heh [22:07] oh thats actually a HYDE [22:07] I guess _skycrash_ can't be bothered to answer... [22:07] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.50.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:08] hmm Hyde is down to the road from here .. makes a nice 14 mile bikeride back and forth [22:08] _skycrash_: nope, haven't had any trouble with a HIDE wireless network here [22:08] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] i do; i can't find mine [22:09] well it's hidden! of course you can't find it? [22:09] indeed [22:09] :) [22:09] HIDE = Hi Intensity Dumbass Experiment? [22:10] <_skycrash_> danc3: in slack13.1 ? [22:10] _skycrash_: what in slack13.1? huh? [22:11] <_skycrash_> danc3: lol.. you use slack 13.1 ? [22:11] yup [22:11] Hi Dance [22:11] _skycrash_: I asked you a few minutes ago to explain what a "HIDE" network is, and you didn't bother to answer, so I don't know WTF you're talking about... [22:13] hi.... [22:13] lol [22:13] <_skycrash_> danc3: lol.. well [22:13] well what? [22:13] <_skycrash_> danc3: i have in my home a Wireless network with ESSID hide [22:14] oh. You mean "HIDDEN". That's a different word. Look at them both closely... [22:14] <_skycrash_> danc3: my slackware13.1 dont connect in this network.. dont work [22:14] <_skycrash_> danc3: lol .. you right [22:14] I'm always right [22:14] <_skycrash_> danc3: my english is very sux [22:14] agreed [22:14] <_skycrash_> lol [22:14] me too [22:15] Hi danc3 [22:15] can you connect to it if you don't hide the ESSID? [22:15] hello luciano [22:15] Do you can to make a conection with a hide ESSID ?? [22:15] <_skycrash_> danc3: yes.. work [22:15] <_skycrash_> luciano: *hidden [22:16] for sample.. In my house has a Wireless network called DLINK [22:16] hmmmm... perhaps try using the 'wicd' network manager [22:16] <_skycrash_> danc3: but i need my ESSID be hidden [22:16] why do you need it hidden? [22:16] security... [22:16] just this. [22:16] <_skycrash_> danc3: im using wpa_supplicant and iwconfig [22:16] that doesn't really provide any security, you know [22:16] _skycrash_, you can just not transmit the essid [22:17] why is it "hidden"? [22:17] ocult [22:17] and who is it hidden from (other than you, by the look of things)? [22:17] a hidden ESSID provides no security whatsoever [22:18] <_skycrash_> danc3: just a little more security, prevent for noobs [22:18] yeah... [22:18] correct. [22:18] think about that... a n00b isn't the one you need to fear [22:18] _skycrash_, you just don't want to broadcast your ssid [22:18] but.. There is any mode for a configuration in Slackware 13.1 ? [22:18] anyone wanting to get into your network will not be slowed down for one second by a "hidden" ESSID [22:18] seriously [22:19] do you have any encryption (WEP/WPA) going on this network? [22:19] <_skycrash_> shonudo: i know how do this.. but my slackware dont work when i dont broadcast my essid [22:19] yeah. I have one. [22:19] WPA [22:19] <_skycrash_> danc3: yes..wpa [22:19] _skycrash_, read this (and there's a ton of other stuff if you google): http://www.topbits.com/ssid.html [22:19] then don't worry about hiding the ESSID [22:19] it's a useless thing to do [22:20] you should be able to connect if you don't broadcast [22:20] it doesn't make sene [22:20] sense* [22:20] there may be something else not right [22:20] ok ok;;; [22:20] <_skycrash_> I do not want to discuss about using or not using a hidden network [22:20] ok then [22:20] have fun [22:20] when I go somewhere that has hidden network I'll do what? [22:20] <_skycrash_> i really do connect my slackware13.1 in a hidden network lol [22:21] dieter- (~dieter@84-23-67-251.blue.kundencontroller.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:21] me too Skycrash [22:21] <_skycrash_> my ubuntu is connect fine in hidden wireless network [22:21] lol [22:21] I do not want to discuss this too. [22:21] <_skycrash_> i think slack have a little bug.. when i try iwconfig wlan0 essid "mynet" [22:21] but. I would like to learn more about this specifc configuration in SLAC 13.1 [22:22] just this [22:22] <_skycrash_> iwconfig stay blank [22:22] _skycrash_, are you luciano? [22:22] is this also a security thing? [22:22] anyway, thanks. [22:22] <_skycrash_> shonudo: what ? [22:22] joke [22:22] no .. I'm LUCIANO [22:23] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:23] <_skycrash_> shonudo: lol.. prevent lamme neightboard peoples [22:23] no I am SPARTACUS .. uhm LUCIANO! [22:23] Skycrash is my friend and partner [22:23] i am spartacus [22:23] no you're not. [22:23] well, that's the alternate ending then [22:23] Where you from Shonudo ? [22:23] native chicagoan, luciano [22:23] you? [22:23] first-gen US [22:24] I'm from Brazil. [22:24] hola [22:24] hola. lol [22:24] ?que tal? [22:24] not spanish.. [22:24] soy hijo de espanoles [22:24] brazilian portuguese [22:24] Do you know ? [22:24] no hablo potuguese [22:24] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] i can understand it [22:24] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] i cannot type it as fast as castellano [22:25] Tweaking_Man_ (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:25] ]te hablas spañol ?? [22:25] shonudo ... [22:25] how'd i avoid the fucked up netfilter syntax and go more along the lines of ipfw in a ruleset? [22:26] Good Evening. I'm using slackware64 13.1 and when I attempt to use suspend to disk, while virtual box is running, it fails with: `echo: write error: Cannot allocate memory` I have a huge swap (15G) trying to get this to work. Does this write to RAM first, then disk? [22:26] shonudo: tu padre y tu madre son espanoles ?? [22:26] echo disk > /sys/power/state <-- the suspend command I'm using. [22:27] vmware? [22:27] asarch (~asarch@189.188.158.185) joined ##slackware. [22:27] <_skycrash_> luciano: im very hunger [22:28] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [22:28] I'm sorry, I wasn't clear about that. I have slackware64 13.1 running unvirtualized. I have WinXP for netflix running in VirtualBox [22:28] donno, but i have this problem in slack13-64 in vmware too [22:28] _skycrash_: me too [22:28] i.e. it does not suspend [22:28] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:29] phoenix bios [22:29] emulated and all that [22:29] I was able to suspend from within a bare console, have yet to verify that it works without virtualbox, but I know that it did in 64-13.0 [22:29] i donno [22:29] I'll give it a go sans virtualbox right now [22:29] vmware dogs out too [22:30] check the mailing lists, they're the gold [22:30] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] (the E-GOLD) [22:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:31] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:32] Works fine if VirtualBox is closed first. [22:32] What a waste of fine space on that swap. [22:32] luciano (luciano@189.58.126.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:33] yeah [22:33] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [22:33] never used vbox [22:33] good luck with that. [22:33] Tweaking_Man_ (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-22.danbbs.dk) left irc: Quit: Ayttm logging off [22:33] I think it must be just the sheer size of the image that's causing problems. [22:34] I know I don't have enough RAM to fit it all. [22:34] grazymax (~grazymax@host178-153-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:34] But I didn't think that mattered with suspending to disk. [22:34] <_skycrash_> clijunkie: what size of your partition ? [22:34] 15G [22:34] is the swap [22:34] <_skycrash_> in the virtualbox ? [22:34] oh, no that is 8GB [22:35] <_skycrash_> right.. and memory size reserved for virtualbox ? [22:35] <_skycrash_> for RAM [22:35] asarch (~asarch@189.188.158.185) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:36] when it's running I've allotted 1024 out of 2048 [22:36] <_skycrash_> i think this is very [22:37] <_skycrash_> switch to 256.. works very fine in virtualbox [22:37] okay I'll try that. [22:37] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:37] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:37] <_skycrash_> maybe solve your problem [22:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:39] asarch (~asarch@189.188.158.185) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:41] _skycrash_: so far it has suspended, now seeing if it resumes. [22:42] <_skycrash_> clijunkie: :-) [22:42] clijunkie, im sure ive read a warning in some readme that says you shouldn't suspend/sleep while a virtual machine is running [22:42] _skycrash_: boom, you got it in one [22:43] <_skycrash_> clijunkie: work ? [22:43] tank-man: Probably, but then where's the fun in pushing your box harder and harder. [22:43] _skycrash_: like a charm [22:43] <_skycrash_> clijunkie: good :-) [22:43] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:44] <_skycrash_> i go sleep now.. Bye all Slackers [22:45] night [22:45] hello all [22:45] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.195) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:45] _skycrash_ (sky@189.58.175.73.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:45] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. 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[23:03] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:07] does ice cream turn anyone else on ? [23:08] I want to use this for my slackware terminal [23:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMQ1qT_RFM&feature=related [23:08] obnauticus (~obnauticu@c-24-22-110-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] pretty fasttoo [23:09] gay [23:09] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [23:09] how is that gay [23:09] its a terminal [23:10] heya,folks [23:10] hey MLanden [23:10] check out the terminal I want for my slackware box: [23:10] heya,fatalnix [23:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMQ1qT_RFM&feature=related [23:11] hey MLanden [23:11] heya,shonudo [23:11] howdy slackers. [23:11] asarch (~asarch@189.188.158.185) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:11] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [23:12] the thing is huge [23:12] fatalnix, what are you going to use it for? [23:12] mudding [23:12] fatalnix: an old teletype machine? cool...ben franklin leet [23:12] I'll play my muds on it :D [23:13] it would work if you made an rs232 box [23:13] some sort of TCP crap.. [23:13] etc [23:13] grazymax (~grazymax@host160-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:13] brian? [23:14] yes thumbs ? [23:14] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] jeev: not you. [23:14] thought you were looking for my alter ego [23:16] me? [23:16] fatalnix: what about the noise that will accumulate? gonna try to match beats to Kamelot? [23:16] emma_ (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:16] MLanden: who knows. [23:16] MLanden: more likely Styx [23:17] Mr Roboto....strange,that might work!!..;) [23:17] noise doesnt bother me really, I'm going to buy a usb typewriter kit and wire up one of my old mechanical typewriters for a keyboard to help with my carpel tunnel [23:17] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [23:20] asarch (~asarch@189.188.158.185) joined ##slackware. [23:21] figabo (~figabo@201.164.181.23) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [23:24] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [23:25] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:25] grazymax (~grazymax@host160-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:26] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:28] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:29] hmmmm, anyone familiar with the usb installer? [23:29] what's the issue? [23:30] necos is alive! [23:30] trying to make a custom iso for it [23:30] yeah, princeton keeps me busy [23:30] natex (~natex@cpe-24-59-4-137.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] thought the white man took you for something [23:31] hahahaha [23:31] and i don't see the script used to make the usb boot image [23:32] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:32] obnauticus (~obnauticu@c-24-22-110-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:33] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:33] Necos: you mean usb-and-pxe-installers/usbimg2disk.sh ? [23:35] no i mean the script that makes the usbboot.img [23:37] because i want to put a/ap/d/n/l on my usb stick... [23:37] if you have a Slackware tree, eg. using alienBOBs rsync current, on a HD you can make an ISO that can boot from USB [23:37] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:38] that's what i wanna do (my dvd drive is bleh) [23:38] i do that all the time [23:38] i already have the iso image [23:38] grazymax (~grazymax@host213-132-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:39] you can try 'isohybrid nameofiso.iso' and dd it to the stick [23:39] and then try booting from it [23:40] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) joined ##slackware. [23:40] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.88) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:40] hmmmm [23:41] isohybrid is part of syslinux in 13.1, it was added around january iirc [23:41] cool [23:45] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [23:47] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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