[00:02] nullm0dem (n=nullm0de@65-183-140-221-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.54.177) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:04] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:05] Man, I had some wicked strange dreams last night. Probably alcohol induced. [00:06] One was a dream I've had in the past, it took place at the same dream location but during a different season of the year. Very strange [00:08] when I was about 5 or 6, I dreamed I had a dream TV, I could change channels on it to watch any dream I'd had before [00:08] (VCRs weren't invented yet or I'm sure it would have been a dream VCR, that makes more sense) [00:08] heh [00:09] hehe [00:09] lucid dreaming stop, rewind, jump through florrs into other dreams [00:09] not many people can do it [00:09] bleah, I'm not even lucid when I'm awake [00:09] the second dream I had, I was working in an indoor ship yard in Texas that was filled with water so we could 'test float ships' [00:09] wtf is that all about [00:10] antiwire: your bladder was full? [00:10] hahaha [00:10] mmm popcorn [00:11] that actually makes a certain amount of sense, if you ignore the fact that Texas isn't landlocked... [00:11] nullm0dem (n=nullm0de@65-183-140-221-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) left ##slackware. [00:11] Urchlay: yeah that's what was weird [00:12] After someone told me about lucid dreaming, I dreamt that night that I was walking along the street on the sidewalk. I told myself I could control my dream, and the sky exploded in every color of the visible light spectrum (first time I remember seeing color in my dreams) but it startled me awake. [00:12] in the dream my boss and the existing yard crew were Texans..I was the newb [00:13] chance22: you dream in black & white? [00:13] weird [00:13] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:13] chance22: I can sometimes gain very minimal control of only myself in dreams, things like catching my balance and talking to people are sometimes controllable but other than that my dreams are out of my control [00:13] Urchlay: I can't say one way or the other, I only can say that I never remember any colors when I wake up. [00:13] the very few times I've figured out I was dreaming... as soon as I acted on the knowledge, I'd wake up [00:14] Urchlay: yeah same thing happens to me [00:14] must be a subconscious defense mechanism [00:14] once I managed to stay dreaming by deliberately pretending I didn't know it was a dream [00:14] wow, that's a good idea [00:14] but it was kinda pointless [00:14] I'll try it next time it happens [00:15] I mean I did the same stuff I'd have done if I hadn't known [00:15] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-51-217-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] was nice to see my friend Carl again (in real life he had been dead a couple years, in the dream he was alive but in a wheelchair for some reason) [00:16] I often wake up completely bent out of shape from dreams [00:16] totally upset or angered and it lasts for hours after i wake up [00:16] ouch [00:17] I still have frequent dreams about being in the army, or officers showing up at my door and giving me orders. I've been out almost 10 years now. [00:17] last week I dreamed something that made enough sense that I was able to write it down (well, type it in) before I forgot it [00:18] chance22: I still have dreams where I've forgotten to go to a class in highschool for 3/4 of the semester only to go for the first time on the day of the final. [00:18] those are horrible [00:18] chance22: that sucks. When I used to have crappy jobs I hated, I'd dream I was working, then I'd wake up and it was time to go work for real... but they fade after I quit the job [00:19] bleah, dreaming I'm in high school at all is a nightmare. I don't have to be naked in front of everybody, or failing a test... just being there is bad enough [00:19] yeah totally [00:19] highschool itself was a nightmare [00:21] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] haha, sometimes I dream about being back in the post office, which is where I worked in mid-1980's [00:21] the only recurring dream I have these days, involves driving my car on the interstate, and suddenly realizing I've gotten on the wrong road, and it'll take an hour to get back where I was going, or I'll have to jump over a missing section of road in my crappy car, or do a loop-de-loop like a roller coaster [00:21] is slackpkg-2.71.2 normally slow? [00:22] and that's bad, but the good thing is that I never believe it, I usually realize that I'm only dreaming :) [00:22] the one time in my life I had a good car, I didn't have that dream... [00:22] rob0: Most of the time I can do that but sometimes they are so messed up or tug on the right strings to screw with me for hours [00:23] lostnhell: for your urbanterror buils, it's slow, because .pak files are already compressed, and it's trying to compress them [00:23] lostnhell: oh, slackpkg, not makepkg. Never mind. [00:24] Urchlay, I just ran top and noticed the cpu utilization, I didn't expect it to be this slow. btw, I am testing and updating it for 64-current now [00:24] shiny [00:24] Urchlay, you were right makepkg, I was thinking slackpkg because of the recent update [00:25] compressing stuff that's already compress, always takes a long time and eats a lot of CPU [00:25] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-51-217-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [00:25] is there an official iso file for slack64? [00:25] not yet [00:25] Urchlay, the -current build of UT needs to be changes because of a dependant version of libcurl [00:25] ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/ [00:26] Pat doesn't release isos of -current [00:26] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] lostnhell: hmm? what's linked to libcurl? the actual game executable? [00:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:26] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [00:26] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:26] Urchlay, it required libcurl to download pk3 files, I jsut had to setup a link from so.4 to so.3 [00:27] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:27] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [00:28] paissad: any iso you find that claims to be -current, is unofficial. Doesn't mean you can't use them, just be aware that, if it breaks, you don't get to complain about it (except maybe to the person who made the iso) [00:28] ok [00:29] but how can i install slackware64 , ... [00:29] make your own iso [00:29] hmm [00:29] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [00:29] it is easier than it sounds [00:29] use that script and it's extra-easy [00:29] ok thanks ! [00:29] If you were really leet you'd bit bang the distro down onto you disk with a hex editor [00:30] thank alienBOB for writing that script and giving it out [00:30] i'm so confused, i installed slamd64 3 weeks ago and now, i see slack64 :--( [00:31] antiwire: use a tiny magnet to alter the magnetic 1's and 0's on your hard drive, like a real man! [00:31] lol [00:32] real men use butterflies [00:33] Urchlay, the only problem that I have now on current is that the .desktop file is not showing [00:34] BP{k}: Brew pictures (Anyone else is welcome to look) http://learnix.net/category/brew-brewing/ [00:35] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:35] agentc0re, what's your addy [00:35] so i can have the feds come eat your balls! [00:36] .. wtf? [00:36] Action: agentc0re slaps jeev [00:36] jeev It's not illegal to brew beer you freak. [00:36] ... [00:36] it's illegal to DISTILL [00:36] oh [00:37] still [00:37] gayball [00:37] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:37] ffs [00:38] lostnhell: what are you using, KDE? should be in the K menu under Games (that .desktop file looked OK to me, and passed desktop-file-validate) [00:38] Action: jeev will kick agentc0re's balls next time he jumps [00:38] You really show your age jeev. How's high school going anyways? Get your drivers license yet? [00:38] it passed the validate, but it appears that the menu did not refresh [00:38] agentc0re: nice :) [00:38] agentc0re :/ i failed 4 times already [00:39] oh, you seemed to like the comedy a few days ago but now that it's towards you.. i'm young! [00:39] BP{k}: They will be a little low on the alcohol side but, the wort (before brewing and adding hops plus fermentation) tasted great! [00:40] lostnhell: you sure your doinst.sh is OK then? [00:40] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [00:42] MLanden_lap: wide awake, apparently [00:42] the joint is jumpin' [00:42] someone suggest a movie so i could watch it and not be here [00:42] Logan's Run [00:43] sounds gay [00:43] if you've already seen that, watch Zardoz [00:43] what the hell [00:43] i want to see a 200x movie [00:43] Heya,Urchlay [00:43] jeev: but it has sean connery in it! [00:43] Zardoz.....the great Sean Connerey,right? [00:44] actually, Sir Sean Connery if I remember correctly [00:44] jeev: The pick of destiny! [00:44] just after his 007 days [00:44] http://hba.ath.cx:8081/stream.mp3 [00:45] wtf [00:45] hba are you a bot [00:45] yeah, Sean Connery is in it, but his pants aren't :) [00:45] yes i am :)з [00:45] lol [00:45] heh [00:45] lol [00:45] i want a good movie damnit [00:45] like lord of the rings [00:45] that actually is a good movie [00:46] or black hawk down [00:46] omg hba is a sentient bot! [00:46] hba: thats going to take forever, what is it? [00:46] just very, very surreal [00:46] hba: I'm guessing the movie. [00:46] Apollo 13 [00:46] apollo 13 was ok [00:46] jeev then watch LotR [00:46] There's always Blade Runner [00:46] i've seen them 40 times [00:46] was made in the 1970s, they gave the director the script, $10 million, and a large suitcase full of cocaine, and said "do whatever you want" [00:47] nah, its my radio, just drum and bass :) [00:47] heh [00:47] jeev how about Fear and loathing in Las Vegas. [00:47] agentc0re: good one [00:47] Another one with SSC is 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'. Decent [00:47] i dont know [00:47] i sdont seem interested [00:47] is that the one where sean wears this red strap suit? [00:48] Darby O'Gill and the Little People [00:48] weird one with SSC I haven [00:48] jeev: find any movie where Christopher Walken plays a mafia guy, odds are it'll be good [00:48] alisonken1noc: You know, I didn't care for that movie much. Was alright i guess, but nothing i'd never watch twice. [00:48] Outland is another one [00:48] antiwire: yeah. S&M gear [00:48] i haven't even see godfather [00:48] cause i dont want to be like those fags who pretend they're thugs [00:48] seen [00:48] godfather's a good movie [00:48] jeev You need to see Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It's a must. [00:48] especially the bouncing door :) [00:49] meaning to say....Sword Of The Valiant with SSC as the Green Knight [00:49] http://www.thefakelife.com/blog/uploaded_images/SeanConnery-775481.jpg [00:49] i guess that's work safe..whatever [00:49] heh [00:49] it's Sean Connery [00:49] jeev Or Gigli. It's a good one. [00:49] lol [00:49] Sean Connery, minus pants [00:50] those boots are wild too [00:50] minus shirt too [00:50] hey, he's got his diaper on - that should count [00:50] I can see where to cocaine went [00:50] lol gigli [00:50] where the* [00:50] jeev The best part of that movie is the retard, he plays a good part. [00:51] antiwire: it's actually a pretty decent science fiction story, whether you like all the weird 70s stuff or not [00:51] I swear i thought that movie was going to be utter crap but i laught my @$$ off. [00:51] i wanna see next day air [00:51] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:51] jeev Well there you go. [00:51] I'm down with 70's cocaine induced Sci-Fi [00:51] dont feel like going to the movies [00:51] i'm supposed to see Up with my girlfirend [00:51] friend [00:51] Barbarella......:D [00:51] girlfiend [00:51] MLanden_lap: another classic :) [00:52] also, the Ice Pirates [00:52] agentc0re: hehe, well if kethry and I ever get around stateside, we'll pop by for a wee sampling ;-) [00:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:52] bah im gonna lay down for a few [00:52] true,Urchlay.......space herpes....:C [00:52] BP{k}: Cool beans! :D [00:52] bwahaha [00:52] pastebin.slackadelic.com should be back on line [00:53] more cheese than that.....Flash Gordon [00:53] actually saw the flash gordon movie for the first time ever like last year [00:54] (had seen the old 50s flash gordon TV show before) [00:54] weird soundtrack....gotta give Queen an A on effort [00:54] yeah [00:54] and the king of the hawkmen played by Brian Blessed... that guy's great [00:54] qwe124 (n=root@79.170.51.56) joined ##slackware. [00:55] spaceballs [00:55] (he's been on Dr. Who and Blake's 7, and also he's the voice of Boss Nass in the star wars prequel(s)) [00:55] I know......didn't dawn on me until I saw Blackadder [00:55] "May The Schwartz Be With You" [00:55] "Spaceballs? Oh shit. There goes the planet." [00:55] qwe124 (n=root@79.170.51.56) left ##slackware. [00:56] probably the line from Spaceballs that get the most mileage for me is "Even in the future nothing works!" [00:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.229) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [00:56] anyone here familiar with the conversion of an SNES controller to usb? [00:56] "Merchandising. Spaceballs the lunch box. Spaceballs the figurines. ...." [00:57] I remember someone posted a link a couple of days ago for that conversion. can't remember the link or who posted it [00:58] "space ball the flamethrower!! ... it's my favourite" [00:58] icarus: usb? no... I've heard of them being hooked up to a parallel port, but not USB [00:58] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.229) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Urchlay: ive found a couple of parallel port howtos [00:58] axius (n=axius@92.82.66.24) joined ##slackware. [00:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baRCq3twqww [00:59] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] so i guess i'll watch something edumacational [01:00] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.204.87) left irc: "Leaving." [01:00] Why did you even ask if you would even take anyones suggestions? [01:00] icarus: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Smartjoy-PC-Controller-Adapter-Converter/dp/B0009VIZSY [01:00] agentc0re: I think "Parody Fair Use" would cover that :) [01:00] lol [01:00] axius (n=axius@92.82.66.24) left irc: Client Quit [01:00] MLanden_lap: yes yes [01:01] why is everyone like "doodz just buy a converter lolz" [01:01] should be a few other ways of pluggin' one in as well [01:01] lol agentc0re [01:01] i kept fear and loathing [01:01] i'll watch it [01:01] maybe tomorrow night [01:02] hba (n=hba@189.188.146.93) left irc: "leaving" [01:03] Spaceballs++ [01:03] icarus: I did buy a convertor for Atari 2600 joysticks :) [01:03] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:03] USB requires a lot more work that a parallel or serial port would [01:04] Urchlay: you got joysticks that held up to the test of time? [01:04] (which is one reason I'm sad that parallel and serial ports have disappeared) [01:05] MLanden_lap: aye. I have 4 Wico Command Control sticks, with real leaf springs inside, and they all work great (though one of them needed its cord replaced once) [01:05] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [01:05] strangly,I have one of those monster 2600 joysticks that still kicks a$$...haven't use it since I was using my Amiga [01:06] http://www.jackbergsales.com/toys/WICOCommandControlJoystickController.htm <--- the bottom image on that page (the one without the "trigger grip") [01:06] oda (n=oda@189.120.165.49) left irc: "Leaving" [01:06] Wico command....sweet [01:06] nix_chix0r: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlaJ4zPbSI This one is for you :D [01:06] haha [01:06] http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=55457 <--- much better picture, even though it's apparently not real (rendered 3d model) [01:07] mmp794 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [01:08] bummin' a line off of Back To The Future II....you use your hands?..LOL [01:08] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [01:10] lol [01:10] II might have been the one I didn't see [01:10] I remember the original, and the one where they go to the old west [01:11] "its like a kids game!" [01:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:11] rpg (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:12] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] Nick change: rpg -> Guest55404 [01:13] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] how can i simulate lag ? i have 2 or more virtual machines on the same pc and i want to simulate a different latency in between then [01:13] was thinking of the scene where Marty's in that cafe in the future and he's about to play that Gun Slinger game and some kid's come up to him and utter that quote [01:14] Urchlay: two was where they went to the actual future and then back to the past where they went in the first movie. [01:14] MLanden_lap: That game is for babies. [01:14] why did they not call the ones where they went to the future 'back to the past?' [01:14] that's the line...thanks,agentc0re [01:14] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:15] since they went back to the past at the end of the movie (well at least III) [01:15] (well it was II and III) [01:16] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.158) joined ##slackware. [01:16] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-176-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[01:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:19] speaking of peppers: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/544975/posts [01:19] i opened up the pacakging [01:19] there was a white spider in it [01:19] and it was stupid too, it kept coming up to the thing i was holding [01:19] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [01:19] every american spider runs away [01:19] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:19] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [01:19] wtf [01:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:19] jeev: you were lagged. slackboy saw all 4 lines all at once and thought you were flooding... [01:19] antiwire, charter [01:19] i know [01:19] if i could only kick slackboy. [01:19] jeev: what was my network notice? [01:20] no route to host [01:20] a.k.a. charter [01:20] damn it [01:20] yeah [01:20] if you guys make salad [01:20] try putting dry cranberries in it [01:20] god it's so delish [01:20] ok Martha [01:20] lol [01:20] no route to ghost? [01:20] invalid medium? [01:20] antiwire: lol [01:21] you'd hit martha [01:21] i probably would for the monies [01:21] even though i dont regularly. [01:21] this depression makes me do things [01:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Urchlay: that is a funny page [01:22] Tepin peppers can be hot enough for about two tons of salsa... maybe more [01:23] peppers are ewwy [01:23] seems like one of those peppers you hear of during a pepper challenge [01:24] I think they would be a bit too hot for that... some hanabero might not be [01:24] never know.....folks like the burn as crazy as that may be [01:25] Tepin's are the world's hottest and may have been new outside of S America in the last few years [01:25] oops I did not mean that apostrophe [01:25] now I'm thinking of the Simpsons where Homer eats a hot pepper and wanders into the desert and hallucinates for 3 days :) [01:25] jeev: wait your depression or this economic correction? [01:25] because this isn't any economic depression boy [01:25] dammit Urchlay...was thinking the same thing [01:26] :) [01:26] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [01:26] i dont have depression [01:27] i realized today after meeting dwight howard [01:27] i know why i dont get jealous [01:27] cause i can't even focus for 1 minute on how cool it'd be to be worth 100 mil [01:27] lol [01:27] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.155) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:28] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:33] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [01:41] xug755 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Nick change: xug755 -> fex516 [01:41] Take care,folks......All,have a good night/day...:D [01:42] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:42] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:43] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Greetings everyone. :) [01:45] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:47] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [01:47] hm, I didn't even know you were gone [01:49] lol [01:49] lol [01:49] hey agentc0re [01:49] Hello Urchlay [01:51] say hello to the dog, he's sitting under my desk, staring at me with mournful look in his eyes [01:52] haha, is that the one that you were watching not to long ago that had been given some medication by the owner, or is this your own dog? [01:52] he just ate, and went outside with me, I dunno why he looks so sad [01:52] nah, same dog as before [01:52] he's not high on medication now [01:52] http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2551/1238064149bubble9108489.gif bb pellet bursting bubble. [01:55] not a sequitur in sight [01:56] I am not looking forward to work in the morning(7 more hours) [01:56] agentc0re: I'll be looking forward to some sleep in 8 more hours :) [01:56] Ew, did you just start work?? [01:56] yep [01:57] poor dog, I think he's just bored [01:57] "Mama's asleep and all you ever do is sit there and type on that contraption" [01:57] haha [01:58] what kind of dog? [01:58] if he had opposable thumbs, I'd let him play with my laptop or something [01:58] put some doggy treats on the keyboard and lets see what he has to say. :P [01:58] black lab and bulldog mix, about 8 yrs old [01:58] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:59] looks more like a lab, except he's got a barrel chest, and his lower lip is all bulldog [01:59] Heh, you can usually give a lab(mix) anything to keep them entertained. [01:59] hahah [02:00] this one's smarter than the other lab I used to know [02:00] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [02:01] in fact I saw him using a tool earlier (OK, a pinecone, he was rolling over it to scratch his back, but that's pretty smart compared to most labs) [02:01] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:02] give him opposable thumbs, he might figure out fire, or the wheel... or at least the back-scratcher [02:02] (actually he'd probably figure out how to use the can opener and eat all his canned food at once, and get sick) [02:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] miltux (n=miltux@ppp222-81.adsl.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:12] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:18] Ugh, I can't ever remember the acryonym for the 4GB+ linux kernel support compile [02:18] PAL? [02:18] PAM? [02:18] PAE [02:19] ah, time to google that [02:19] do you know wher eit is in the kernel make menuconfig? [02:20] okay, i found it [02:20] Oh, 4GB support is already built in to the Slackware 12.2 default kernel [02:20] z3n425 (i=75c839da@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9737e4d503495835) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Why do I only see 3GB when I type free -m? [02:21] Nevermind, I guess I see 4GB...1GB is always used in swap? [02:22] no [02:23] swap is going to be whatever you set it to [02:23] you running x86_64?? iirc 32 bit os max's @3gb 64bit can use more. course other variables can affect it probly [02:23] Ah, but if I set it [02:23] then 1GB of ram is always assigned to it? [02:23] http://pastebin.ca/1451550 [02:23] my free-mt [02:23] I think k3b broke my dvd burner. [02:24] z3n425 (i=75c839da@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9737e4d503495835) left irc: Client Quit [02:24] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cc40fc8e5df7dac3) joined ##slackware. [02:24] redtricycle: im running slack64 and free -m displays 4gig unused, so im guessing Rat409 is on the money [02:24] I tried to burn a test dual layer dvd and it got to 100% and then k3b made my drive start bashing the laser assembly against the stop. [02:24] and it wouldn't stop... [02:25] I just don't understand why k3b has such a hard time right now. All it does is use growisofs or cdrecord...it's not like it is doing this itself with new code. [02:25] Now my drive seems fscked [02:25] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A5DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:25] Rat409: I was under the impresison 32bit can use 4GB [02:25] when compiled with PAE [02:25] http://community.livejournal.com/linux/1754389.html [02:26] morning [02:26] mentions windows at top but read on for linux conclusion [02:26] not sure if its valid but worth a read [02:27] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [02:27] Hey Rat409 [02:27] Okay, here's a different question [02:27] hey firebird619 [02:27] Hey redtricycle [02:27] greetings firebird619, doing fine here, for a monday morning. how about you? [02:27] When I'm compiling a custom kernel, do I gain anything from encluding it, versus leading it as a module? [02:27] leaving* [02:27] not really [02:27] slackytude: doing great, thanks. I've been using opera 10 b1 since release, it's working great. [02:27] So...I could just leave everything in as a module [02:28] way past my bedtime as usual [02:28] Rat409: how much is *way* past? :P [02:28] firebird619, thats the same you gave? [02:29] firebird619: lol i know been bad lately oh well its just sleep :P [02:29] why would k3b cause the drive to smash itself against the stops but growisofs alone wouldn't... [02:29] what kind of freaking voodoo is that [02:29] Rat409: lol, yeah, *just* sleep, nothing important. :P [02:30] So, if I compile as amodule [02:30] sleep is for people with office jobs [02:30] all it means is a larger kernel size -- speed isnt affected [02:30] like me [02:30] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:30] because it wont load if Id ont need it [02:30] right? [02:30] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [02:30] slackytude: so you get plenty of sleep then right? :D [02:30] Uhriventiss (n=HP_Admin@adsl-68-92-207-192.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:30] if you compile as module, kernel gets smaller, not bigger [02:30] firebird619, I wish :( [02:31] built-in can eliminate need for initrd is it i guess but yes kernel-image is larger [02:31] slackytude: I mean, versus excluding it [02:31] compiling as a module vs. excluding [02:31] slackytude: "(2009-06-08 01:28:41) slackytude: firebird619, thats the same you gave?" ?, this in reference to opera? [02:32] I like the idea of compiling everything needed to boot to runlevel 1 directly into the kernel [02:32] crap, I need to look up if I had an initrd for my LUKS/LVM setup [02:32] Oh darn, I do... [02:32] firebird619, eh, yeah, didnt sleep that much [02:33] can I use the same initrd [02:33] with a different kernel? [02:33] only if its the same version and name [02:33] so, no [02:34] ah, ok. :) I'm anxiously awaiting the next snapshot release now to see more features. :) [02:34] What if... [02:34] I append a custom string [02:34] at the end of the kernel? [02:34] would that be considered the same? [02:34] redtricycle: custom string at the end is just mainly personal preference [02:35] but it wouldnt be considred the same [02:35] To rephraes my question [02:35] it's a way of keeping track of different kernels [02:35] Ah...okay [02:35] I'll remake my initrd then [02:35] that is, modules will be looked for in the dir with you name appended [02:35] which is the point, kinda [02:36] keep in mind - when you add the local string when you compile, it also changes the location of where the kernel modules will be searched [02:36] right [02:37] ex: standard kernel $(uname -r) returns "2.6.27.7", then modules that the kernel will look for will be in /lib/modules/2.6.27.7 [02:37] Do laptops have PCI slots? I dont tihnk they do, and I feel I can exclude this from my kernel [02:37] append a local string $(uname -r) returns "2.6.27.7-local", then modules will be looked at in /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-local [02:37] they may have an internal PCI bus [02:38] I started downloading Slackware but got sort of intimidated and switched to Debian. I plan on giving Slack a try later when I better understand UNIX [02:38] and AGP is also PCI, so your internal video card might fail [02:38] at least the laptops I saw have an internal pci buss [02:38] if "lspci" shows nothing, you can safely get rid of PCI support in your kernel [02:38] ...okay, lspci shows a ton of stuff. [02:38] Thanks Urchlay [02:39] but I severely doubt that'll be the case on any laptop made in the last 15 or so years :) [02:39] I always associated PCI with the PCI slots [02:39] now I know better [02:41] Uhriventiss (n=HP_Admin@adsl-68-92-207-192.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:41] damn smb4k is crashing :( [02:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:41] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:43] USB uses the PCI buss [02:43] in theory it doesn't have to [02:43] but yeah, in practice it always does [02:43] in embedded systems without a PCI buss it usually connects directly to the host CPU [02:44] How can I check if I have bluetooth in my laptop? [02:44] doesnt show up in lspci [02:44] lsusb [02:44] Ah, I see that I dont [02:44] internal bluetooth is often connected to the USB chipset, internally [02:45] lots of stuff is nowadays [02:47] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [02:49] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:54] Oh, wow, you can ahve your printer print stuff as it appears on the console [02:54] Cool. But unneeded for me...excluding =/ [02:54] kind of pointless with inkjet or laser printers anyway, you want an old dinosaur dot-matrix to use that usefully [02:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:55] hahahah [02:55] harold and kumar is fucking funny [02:56] they make fun of the feds lol [03:02] night guys be well! [03:02] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:03] heya :) [03:03] firebird619, baaaaad boy ! [03:03] haha [03:03] It's only 02:03 [03:04] nah - it's only 00:04 [03:04] Oh, even better. :P [03:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:06] 8am :) [03:06] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) joined ##slackware. [03:06] morning Camarade_Tux [03:07] oh btw, firebird619, I said I'd whip you, here you go : whip, whip, whip ! [03:07] hey slackytude :) [03:07] OUCH [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux in the eye [03:07] Camarade_Tux: but is it with a wet noodle? [03:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] alisonken1noc, I managed to find this pic of firebird619 (nsfw) http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-3/folsom-street-buggy-and-whip.jpg (nsfw) [03:10] hahahahahahahaha [03:10] the girl gave me the whip : D [03:11] Camarade_Tux: you can find everything on google, can't you? :P [03:11] hey, that's the first result with safesearch disabled :) [03:12] hahaha : http://imgur.com/xZW77.png [03:12] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Heya,folks.....How's everyone? [03:12] Hey MLanden_lap [03:13] How's it going? [03:13] I'm great, thanks. [03:13] Heya,firebird619..fine thanks [03:14] Camarade_Tux: How old were you in this picture? http://www.norcalblogs.com/commission/images/hobo.jpg :P [03:14] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:15] We need a picture of a gnu smoking a pipe too. (and since RMS says he likes the hippies we know what type of pipe the gnu would be smoking) [03:15] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) joined ##slackware. [03:16] lol.....glass...:D [03:16] hi people, i got a few kde type apps running (i believe they are kde apps) accoring to ps -ef... kthreadd, khubd, kacpid, kjournald, kstriped... i'm running xmonad but my login manager is kdm... is that why? [03:17] and do i need them... how do i get rid of them if i dont need them [03:17] I am not sure all of these are KDE [03:17] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [03:17] the first 5 are not kde programs do not kill them. [03:17] They relate to the kernel [03:17] actually you probably can't kill them no matter what you try [03:18] firebird619, nah, that's my father ;) [03:18] Camarade_Tux: Ah, was the family ever found? :P [03:18] I think you can kill them but you will jack your system up [03:18] Camarade_Tux: Were they just down the street under the next bridge? [03:19] firebird619, yeah and my father killed the ninja, and since he was a rich ninja, we got the money :) [03:20] haha [03:20] zoran119, kthreadd is from the kernel :) [03:20] actually all those k* processes (not even apps) are from the kernel [03:21] the way I heard it described once, those kernel processes are "bits of the kernel, dressed up to look like userspace for scheduling reasons" [03:21] hey..a quote from Linux for Dummies...:P [03:22] Camarade_Tux: yeah... just dong some reading and it seems to be so... thanks [03:22] MLanden_lap, nono : I want royalties on that [03:22] actually I think that's a quote from this book: http://www.admin.com/Pages/USAH.html [03:22] actually all of you, yeah, all of you who are connected to the channel have to pay me since you saw my sentence -_- [03:23] Action: firebird619 pays Camarade_Tux in monopoly money. [03:23] is it bad to take a mouth full of whiskey before bed? [03:24] Camarade_Tux: but, by typing words that appear on my screen, you agree to forfeit any rights you have. It's legit, I have that printed on a post-it note stuck to my monitor. [03:24] antiwire: only if you forget to swallow it [03:24] firebird619, ok, but you pay shipping rates to France since it can't go through paypal :) [03:24] hahaha [03:24] antiwire, helps you sleep ;) [03:25] but I need to drink before going to bed if I've drunk alcohol, otherwise I get a stupid headache [03:25] Action: firebird619 pays shipping rates with more monopoly money. [03:25] I've had to use whiskey as toothpaste, first thing in the morning (damn hotel supplied soap, shampoo, towels, but no toothpaste...) [03:25] dang, I'm broke now. [03:25] Urchlay, right, but only applies in your country ! [03:25] firebird619, hehe, told ya :p [03:26] what, hotels in Europe are more civilized, so they supply toothpaste? [03:26] actually I think this one was supposed to, we just had the crappy maid restock everything before we got there... [03:26] no hotels that I know supplies toothpaste [03:26] ah [03:27] something's got to kill the mornin' breath,might as well go for the gusto..:D [03:27] normally I'd never notice the lack, normally I don't forget to bring my own toothpaste [03:27] maybe high-end ones but dunno [03:27] MLanden_lap: well, at least it killed the germs... [03:27] Urchlay, where are you ? [03:27] the US, Atlanta area [03:27] Urchlay: lol [03:28] Urchlay, oh, I had skipped one of your message, makes more sense now ;p [03:28] Action: Camarade_Tux gotta hurry [03:29] Camarade_Tux: oh, I just now figured out what you were talking about "only applies in your country" [03:29] my little post-it note [03:29] Urchlay, >< [03:29] =P [03:29] (which doesn't actually exist, but you can't prove it!) [03:31] gotcha,Urchlay [03:33] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [03:37] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:40] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:40] yeah, Urchlay, pwned ! [03:40] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) joined ##slackware. [03:40] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) joined ##slackware. [03:42] bbiab [03:42] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:43] axius (n=tty@92.82.82.228) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Camarade_Tux: btw, I got openbox working. I don't know what was wrong, but it was fixed after clearing out the hidden folders/files in /home trying to resolve font issues. [03:44] axius (n=tty@92.82.82.228) left irc: Client Quit [03:46] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. 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[04:01] take care,firebird619 [04:01] thanks MLanden_lap, you too. :) [04:01] haha, night firebird619 :) [04:01] night Camarade_Tux. [04:02] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:02] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@89.123.92.36) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:03] axius (n=root@92.82.82.228) left irc: Client Quit [04:06] take care,folks....bbiab [04:06] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:07] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:08] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:08] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [04:10] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:10] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [04:10] ahhhh, late ! [04:12] andrew_46 (n=andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew46) joined ##slackware. [04:13] andrew_46 (n=andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew46) left ##slackware. [04:14] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] waika (n=weechat@88.228.44.176) joined ##slackware. [04:16] turkish ? [04:16] veya turkce bilen biri ) [04:17] waika: no [04:17] waika: english [04:17] Vash_ (n=Vash@74.218.255.44) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Hey, what makes slackware better than persay Gentoo? [04:18] Vash_: Go read and find out [04:18] .... [04:18] (Not to cause a flamewar, I just want to hear benefits vs downsides) [04:18] Monday morning is NOT time for a god damn distro war discussion [04:18] google vash [04:18] kk, I kinda forgot about the high tensions on Irc [04:19] mea culpa ^^; [04:19] Vash_: do you have ANY idea how many times that is asked? [04:19] tension has reason [04:19] Vash_, yeah seriously that question is a huge waste of time [04:19] try them both and you decide [04:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-207.dial.telus.net) left irc: "WHEE!!!!!! INSANITY IS CARZY!" [04:20] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:20] yeah, gentoo takes (at least for me) a while to install, if slackware install time takes the same amount well then it might not be easy to try both. [04:20] At least for a semi-novice like myself. [04:21] how often do you install though? install time hardly matters [04:21] gentoo install is slower than ALL because the installer compiles [04:21] you ought to install once: once per release (approx. once a year) [04:21] right [04:21] other distros install binaries [04:21] Ok [04:21] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [04:21] I wasn't sure if slack compiled or not [04:21] >.< [04:21] because you havent read the tinie-t bit of info about it before coming here [04:22] the only compiled distributions i know of are Gentoo and Linux From Scratch (but that's because LFS is, as the name implies, made by you) [04:22] right [04:22] anyone here familier with python-distutils-extra I have a python scrip requesting it, haveing a hard tome tracking it down [04:23] Zordrak: indubitably, I mean I tried to check the faq's, but they were arbitrary. [04:23] waika (n=weechat@88.228.44.176) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [04:23] Zordrak: I hardly did any research though, so your response is appropriate I suppose. [04:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:24] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] um... [04:24] I forgot to re-enable the timeout on my lilo [04:24] How do I boot into a different image? [04:24] Next question is, is it significantly more difficult to install on Virtual box, than on lets say a new harddrive [04:24] I have the install disk [04:25] i bonkered my custom custom [04:25] Vash_: Let me simplify [04:25] kernel* [04:25] Vash_: Slackware is simple fast and easy so there is no barrier to trying it... go do so and have fun [04:26] Zordrak: Thank you :D [04:27] ...dang, why does the boot up cd not include the "mkinitrd" command? [04:27] it should [04:27] if not, however, chroot /mnt and use it [04:28] well.. [04:28] the problem is [04:28] I've encrypted my fs [04:28] and I dont know hwo to mount it and enter the unencrypt password [04:28] initrd handled it for me.. [04:29] use install disk to install a new lilo pointing to a valid image WITH a timeout [04:29] ah [04:29] redtricycle, what did you use? LUKS? [04:29] TwinReverb, yes LUKS with LVM [04:29] I tried installing a new lilo, but I forgot what the minimum msteps were.. [04:29] I cant go straight to "Configure" [04:29] well if you do "mount" you should see everything mounted to /mnt [04:30] TwinReverb, nod [04:30] so far, I mounted my boot partition manually [04:30] otherwise, nothing is mounted [04:30] if not, you can open them in this order: "cryptsetup /dev/whatever slackluks" to open LUKS then "vgscan --mknodes && vgchange -ay" and then check /dev/mapper/* [04:30] curious, when i set an ip in /etc/host.deny to block that ip, how effective is that compared to putting the ip on iptables? [04:30] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:31] greetings [04:31] ah...okay, i'll try that [04:31] so I wont be overwriting anything? [04:31] missyjane: its completely different [04:31] missyjane, they're two different layers. hosts.deny is the yp layer, mainly services, while iptables is at the routing/firewall level [04:31] whoa [04:31] i had no idea, whats yp layer? [04:31] missyjane: iptables will block packets of any kind [04:32] missyjane: hosts.deny depends on specific services querying it as a do not allow list [04:32] so it's computer | inetd | firewall <-> internet [04:32] oooh! [04:32] you can run a computer without inetd but it will only prevent/allow access to services, it won't filter pings or other concepts [04:33] likewise you can run firewall without inetd (i think that's the proper name for that layer, or "portmap") and do it all there, but inetd gives you another layer [04:33] not everything honours hosts.deny [04:33] also true. you can make everything honor hosts.allow|deny but not everything works best that way, notably samba [04:33] whoa [04:34] but does everything "honor" iptables though? [04:34] yes, it has to, it has no choice [04:34] missyjane: its not up to the app [04:34] its not about honouring [04:34] iptables is at the routing layer of the network, the part before the application sees the traffic (iirc) [04:34] thanks twinreverb, I"m into my encrypted system [04:34] and mmounted and chrooted [04:34] wow i had no idea that different level of network layer actually affected this [04:34] packets have to got THROUGH iptables before the app even sees them [04:34] Though, I"m tryin gto fix my lilo [04:34] so i guess its useless [04:34] redtricycle, ok, now all you have to do is fix LILO [04:34] hosts.deny is useless that is for me [04:34] and I get this error: "Fatal: Linux experimental device 0x04x needs to be defined." [04:35] redtricycle, make sure you have access to README_CRYPT.TXT that alienBOB wrote [04:35] nod [04:35] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:35] I'm reading it now [04:35] tho, I'm jsut trying to bring my lilo back [04:35] I cant run "lilo" without the fatal [04:35] missyjane: iptables = firewall, hosts.deny = do not allow list that some apps can choose to read and obey [04:35] iirc you must point it to /dev/mapper/whatever, NEVER to the physical partition [04:35] ty ty TwinReverb + Zordrak [04:35] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:35] redtricycle, how are you setting this up? /boot on a separate partition, and everything else within LUKS and LVM2? [04:35] yes [04:36] it worked before.. [04:36] I just messed up my initrd [04:36] and forgot to set my timeout [04:36] so I cant get back into my system... [04:36] initrd ftl [04:36] bleh, now I'm gettin ga Lilo error [04:37] redtricycle, well if /boot exists, kernel images should be /boot/vmlinuz-whatever and then root = /dev/mapper/whatever [04:37] or should be [04:37] make sure your initrd has the LUKS/LVM option specified [04:38] TwinReverb, nod [04:38] I think I forgot the -L at the end [04:38] But, hrm... [04:38] yeah you need -L [04:38] i doubt you need a wait period [04:38] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [04:39] ya, but I'd like to set the timeout [04:39] in case I bonker it again [04:39] -C /dev/mapper/whatever is an option you need to use [04:39] Bleh, I cant commit my lilo atm [04:39] giving me this "Linux experimental device 0x04x needs to be defined" error [04:40] # mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.27.7-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/cryptvg/root -C /dev/sdx2 -L [04:40] that is an example [04:40] -m is modules (whatever your filesystem is) [04:40] -f tells it "hey this is my filesystem [04:40] -r is your root partition [04:40] -C is your encrypted partition [04:40] -L says "hey use LVM" [04:41] Oh, I see my problem...http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0802.2/1717.html [04:41] I chroot [04:41] but forgot to mount /boot [04:41] which is why my lilo didnt work [04:42] >.< [04:42] failbus arrived early this morning [04:43] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:43] redtricycle, i found over time that encrypting the OS itself is almost not worth it for the average home user [04:44] anyone can get their hands on a copy of slackware, so that hardly matters (but there are those who disagree with me) [04:44] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:44] yet they disagree because supposedly the OS hides info about the encrypted portions, but they have yet to point to a specific place where it does (besides swap, which i encrypt) [04:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:46] MAFIA1777 (i=maddoc@62.221.144.229) joined ##slackware. [04:47] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:47] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. 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[05:14] probably part of trn package - kind of like an organization version of .sig would be my guess [05:15] heh i wanna remove it [05:16] that was interesting, ty alisonken1church [05:18] np [05:26] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-35-37.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:27] miltux (n=miltux@ppp222-81.adsl.forthnet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [05:29] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [05:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:44] down_fall__ (n=down_fal@124.148.46.158) left irc: "Leaving" [05:44] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.58.234) joined ##slackware. [05:45] is there a command to resize a partition? 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[08:21] heh-heh [08:21] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:24] partytime! [08:24] hi slackytude [08:24] y0 hitest , how ya doin [08:24] blaguvest (n=blaguves@c-46a172d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:25] I am well, ty, slackytude:), how are you? [08:25] doing fine. for a monday [08:26] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) got lost in the net-split. [08:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) got lost in the net-split. [08:26] yeah. work day. bah.....hehe [08:27] heey [08:29] nvision (n=nvision@g229164210.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:32] pacman871 (n=pacman87@bz.bzflag.bz) joined ##slackware. [08:33] nvision (n=nvision@g229164210.adsl.alicedsl.de) got netsplit. [08:33] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [08:33] nater (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) got netsplit. 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[08:33] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: SendQ exceeded [08:34] what do you guys think of slackpkg? i like it very much for setting slackware to current. are there any other options? [08:34] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Excess Flood [08:35] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] here we go again! [08:35] wheeeee! [08:36] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [08:36] jj_tetris (n=augusto@189-041-54-209.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:37] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.39) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:39] pacman87_ (n=pacman87@bz.bzflag.bz) got lost in the net-split. [08:43] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Excess Flood [08:43] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:52] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:53] pri4pus: google? [08:53] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.117) joined ##slackware. [08:55] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:55] are any of you using ext4? how is it compared to ext3? [08:56] straterra: Ok, google gives only some results and not all of them are good. [08:56] Now I have Revolution OS, Triupmph of the nerds [08:56] And pirates of Silicon Valey. [08:57] So? [08:57] We aren't a research channel [08:57] we are ##slackware:) [08:57] but we can help in someone's research if we choose [08:57] pri4pus: check out The Code [08:58] i would not consider linux documentaries to be off-topic [08:58] Sounds like a homework question [08:59] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [08:59] straterra, you could ask 'em 8-) [09:01] :-( The Code seems to me more like an artistic movie, but thank you!!! [09:01] pri4pus: and there are a bunch of RMS(Richard Stallman) videos on the net, but he usally just repeats himself; "use emacs, vi is the devil. fuck linus for stealing creds from gnu by making people call it linux" [09:02] josteint_: :-) [09:03] I don't get religious software debates [09:03] use the $software that suits your nees [09:04] Waw, I found a good link computer documentaries related. If someone is interested here it is: [09:04] http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/documentaries.html [09:05] uhm.. [09:06] Those are just about the bbs days.. [09:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:07] It is at least something. I will keep looking. [09:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) got netsplit. 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[09:16] pri4pus: The Code is a documentary about linux. has RMS, linus etc talking. more like a "what is linux?" thingy [09:16] Klederson (n=Klederso@bd214b36.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Yes, I have seen that now. Thank you! [09:18] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Klederson (n=Klederso@bd214b36.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [09:22] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-8-1.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [09:23] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [09:23] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [09:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:27] nvision (n=nvision@g229164210.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[09:37] yay i got my laptop back so now it's time to sanitize its hard drive and then put slackware 12.2 on it and sell it to a friend for $100 [09:38] Action: TwinReverb is going to set up Slackware 12.2 on it so nicely that the recipient of this computer will be compelled to use Slackware Linux for the rest of their life 8-) [09:38] :) [09:39] sounds good [09:39] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Or you could donate it to the "Cause" [09:40] he he [09:40] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left ##slackware. [09:40] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) joined ##slackware. [09:40] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [09:41] jj_tetris (n=augusto@189-041-54-209.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:42] jj_bird (n=augusto@189-041-55-180.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[09:50] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] you may be nerdy enough to be able to beowulf cluster, Dominian, but i doubt you would know what to do with it once you had succeeded [09:51] you need flying monkeys first [09:51] TwinReverb: I can find uses for all hardware [09:51] I put VirtualBox to work at home as my "master" dns server [09:51] pr0n is not on my list of valid uses [09:51] lol [09:51] you can hack an iPod to be your master DNS server [09:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.4.169) joined ##slackware. [09:52] using zoneedit to host all my DNS now.. but it slaves from the master I have at home.. so I do the changes myself and push to them.. but this keeps things safe as they can only query me etc. [09:52] pr0n is _always_ a valid reason, lads! [09:52] heh.. [09:52] xfce's netload plugin has a weird idea of what "automatic maximum" is [09:53] i look over and it looks like i'm clocking insanely fast uploads only to notice that the only upstream traffic is IRC [09:53] Action: TwinReverb sets it to 300 each [09:54] in other random news, i find it ironic that my tMobile cell phone has insanely high uptimes as my alarm clock (since there's no tMobile in south korea). their network must suck or something 8-) [09:55] because when something isn't connected to their network, it has great uptime [09:55] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] isnt it usually roaming then and eating up battery? [09:55] mine does, unless there is net coverage [09:55] nope, no network at all for it [09:56] anyways, brb, reboot into my new shiny kernel [09:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:56] heh [09:58] my coffee cup has an insane uptime as well. Nevar crashed before! it's always ready. [10:00] hi guys ! [10:00] *i just would like to know if the develoopement of slamd64 will continue even after the release of slackware64 [10:00] if ever there are some slamd64 maintainers here :) [10:00] probably not the right place to ask (#slamd64), though my guess is that it probably will not [10:01] thrice`, i did it first, no one answering, i tried here, sorry for that [10:01] three/four minutes isn't exactly the longest time to wait. :) [10:01] Knoxville (n=Knoxvill@70-90-77-201-BusName-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] how do I import a file into mysql that would be named create_tables.sql [10:02] BP{k}, you're right :) [10:02] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [10:02] paissad: I do have that habbit. ;-) [10:03] hiii [10:04] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Knoxville, one way is mysql -p < create_tables.sql [10:05] thanks plee I got it imported in! [10:05] Knoxville, but then you have to setup everything that is needed in that file [10:05] ok :) [10:05] ok, thanks! [10:05] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [10:07] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.58.234) left irc: "leaving" [10:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:14] I HATE WINDOWS!! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! [10:14] Action: Zordrak attempts to chill [10:14] Action: TwinReverb hands Zordrak a sledgehammer [10:15] god damn windows server has been dying. The thing that has been killing it? The software monitoring the RAID to stop it from god damn dying!! [10:15] Has been fine for 12+ months. [10:15] for some reason slackware is refusing to mount my LVM/LUKS. usually i just have to go to rc.S and rc.6 and invert the order in which they are opened/detected (i.e. on boot, LUKS, then LVM, the reverse on poweroff) but that isn't working for some reason [10:16] Saturday evening it decides to start allocating all the nonpaged memory to itself and wont give any back till the system halts all network processes so you cant do s-hit all without going to it physically and rebooting [10:16] gar0t0 (n=casa@189.110.79.177) joined ##slackware. [10:16] ah nevermind, PEBKAC [10:16] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.4.169) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:17] fixed [10:23] Zordrak: too bad [10:24] Zordrak: i use windows xp with virtualbox, so a crash in windows does not really bother me. but very rarly happens [10:26] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:26] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [10:28] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] Dominian: ok :( [10:29] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@wireless-196-123.uchicago.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:29] anyone here familiar with using stunnel? [10:30] I'm trying to figure out how to get it to reconnect on a resume from suspend [10:30] atm I'm just killing it and rerunning it, and there has to be a better way [10:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.58.234) joined ##slackware. [10:43] how to configure the xterm? for example, enlarge the font or change the background to black and the font to white. [10:43] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [10:45] smica (n=smica@212.16.128.180) joined ##slackware. [10:45] wasuup [10:47] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:54] oh [10:55] I was looking to see what I'd need to play m4a files in xmms, and I saw an xmms2 package, i thought it was a newer version, the package description was really vague [10:55] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:57] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [10:58] nope, it's a new server / client setup [10:58] strange [10:58] so the xmms server just serves the music I guess? [10:58] or is it streaming [10:58] just servers. have you heard of MPD before ? [10:59] nope sounds like a disease [10:59] multimas (n=multimas@c80-216-207-92.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "leaving" [11:00] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:01] the source I got for this mp4 input plugin doesn't compile :\ [11:02] grekkos: You're doing it wrong. [11:02] Mmm new amarok [11:03] Applets nice [11:03] rtphint.h:38: error: invalid pure specifier (only `= 0' is allowed) before в;в token [11:03] rtphint.h:39: error: invalid pure specifier (only `= 0' is allowed) before в;в token [11:03] i'll just use amarok for now [11:03] i just don't like this big clunky interface [11:03] grekkos: thats what I did :p [11:03] and same [11:06] com com dkjsfdsfsadf [11:06] ooh [11:06] connection died for a minute [11:06] :) [11:07] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:08] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] compl3x: is the new amarok any smaller than the previous? [11:11] grekkos: um hard to say - i find it a lot more tidy [11:11] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:11] heh [11:11] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A5DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] no, it still has giant buttons [11:12] I guess I have to grab it from source? i don't see it anywhere else on the site [11:12] or on slackbuilds [11:13] amarok is included during install. [11:14] whoppix (n=whoppix@ti0021a380-dhcp1324.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [11:14] I have the older version [11:14] 1.4 ? [11:14] 1.4.10 [11:14] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:17] are you on kde4? [11:17] no 3.5 [11:17] amarok2.x is for kde4 [11:18] would it be a pain to upgrade this machine or should i just get slackware-current? 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[12:26] HoldMyPocket: i think the assumption here is that he doesn't have the machine yet [12:26] grekkos: ahh =p [12:26] ;D [12:26] HoldMyPocket: but actually that advice might be helpful for me, because I might try to upgrade this machine [12:27] yes.. i think... [12:28] more RAM,, aways.. [12:28] 2GB ram shouldn't cost that much and should be enough for most things, if you're not looking to spend a lot of money [12:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:29] kde4 still isnt windows7 so 2gb will be more than enough [12:30] good.. and procesor?? [12:30] depends on the budget [12:31] dualcores serve right in most cases [12:31] i have p4-3G... [12:31] that'll do [12:31] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [12:31] yeah what is the budget? [12:32] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] in my -current i noted the was very slow... [12:33] jj_bird: its still in heavy development so things will only improve in future [12:33] maybe discs limitation rather than processor... [12:33] there is no eta for 13.0 huh [12:33] I'm waiting for 4.5.x release [12:33] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Success [12:34] Action: rob0 is waiting for KDE5 [12:34] kde5 will take atleast 3 years [12:34] they'll wait for qt5 :p [12:34] or much more [12:34] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:35] fedora bomb will drop 2moro btw [12:35] im waiting for cookies, need some sugar to my brain [12:35] so everybody take cover [12:35] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] what fedora bomb ttyX? [12:36] fedora's new release = kernel panic = dead systems [12:36] lol [12:36] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [12:36] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.58.234) joined ##slackware. [12:36] is there a way to add extra files into an .iso file to make a new one? [12:37] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Thursap, no, but you can mkisofs(1) and build a new ISO image. You could do that with the old one loop-mounted. [12:38] firefox really looks like shit in kde like all other gtk apps [12:38] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:39] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:39] nvision (n=nvision@g229164210.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] rob0: if the old one is bootable, is the attribute reserved for the new one? [12:41] i wish flash worked reliably in linux [12:41] you would have to recreate the el Torito part of it ... are you familiar with mkisofs at all? If not, enjoy, the man page is huge. :) [12:42] HoldMyPocket: my flash card works fine in linux [12:43] ttyX: I am using something now called qtcurve (i think) which lets qt use gtk themes (or maybe the opposite i don't remember) either way it doesn't look AS bad now. but it could also be my goofy theme. either way all windows have the same theme more or less [12:43] Thursap: are you building your own .iso according to the instructions in the isolinux directory of the distrobution? [12:44] grekkos: yeah I think they've got an sb for that [12:45] how do I get amarok to play the songs in the order they've been added?? [12:45] Skaperen: i mean flash on the web, such as you tube etc.. [12:45] ttyX: sb? [12:46] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [12:47] slackbuild [12:49] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.54.46) joined ##slackware. [12:50] ttyX: oh ok [12:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:01] I follow instructions from this guide: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:ndiswrapper but with no success. :-( [13:03] redtricycle (n=redtricy@216.101.119.2) joined ##slackware. [13:04] And ndiswrapper -l says "driver found, device found". [13:05] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Help! I have problems configuring my wireless network with ndiswrapper. [13:05] I follow instructions from this guide: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:ndiswrapper but with no success. :-( [13:05] And ndiswrapper -l says "driver found, device found". [13:05] Greetings everyone. :) [13:05] Hello firebird619! [13:06] :-) [13:06] morning firebird619 [13:06] Hey pri4pus [13:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [13:06] How do I see my full dmesg? My buffer doesn't go back far enough [13:06] Hi redtricycle [13:06] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] redtricycle, uh less /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog [13:08] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] redtricycle: dmesg | more [13:10] Help! I need somebody's help! Please anybody heeeelp! [13:11] Action: MoZes hands pri4pus a ticket. You are number 20,345 in the queue. Please hold the line. [13:12] lol [13:12] ndiswrapper sucks. You should get a wlan card that has native drivers. [13:15] Most wireless cards DO have native drivers, but for some reason, people seem to gravitate towards ndiswrapper. [13:16] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.58.234) left irc: "leaving" [13:16] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] sajes: Have you done something better? [13:18] pri4pus: Yeah, I invented a new way to tie my boots. [13:18] rob0: Ok! So give me the driver for a broadcom wireless card. The one you can find in Dell XPS M1330 [13:19] sajes: Good! That is really revolutionary. [13:19] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Is this bad English, or just plain bad manners? [13:20] rob0: From who? If you mean me, it's bad manners. :) [13:22] pri4pus: pastebin lspci output. Dell could put different broadcom chipsets in the 1330 and not even mention it. [13:23] It is a Broadcom BCM4328. [13:23] Google should have plenty of results for "broadcom linux". I think there are more than one type, with different drivers, and they are in the standard kernel. [13:25] pri4pus: It has native drivers. [13:25] bcm43xx should do it pri4pus [13:25] i think [13:25] or is that the older oen [13:26] I am going to try, but last time it didn't work... [13:27] pri4pus: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [13:28] Yeah, you probably have to use firmware and follow the instructions. [13:28] Even though 28 isn't mentioned in that article, googling shows various results of it working with the 4328 chipset. [13:33] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:37] Thank you! [13:37] pri4pus (i=57f8a441@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-54360609c462a56d) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:39] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.54.46) left ##slackware. [13:41] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) joined ##slackware. [13:42] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] seejay_ (n=seejay@202.69.200.5) left irc: Client Quit [13:44] http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2009/06/05/the-week-of-the-linux-desktop/ <- nice to know manufacturers' hardware will be increasingly compatible with linux :) [13:46] has anyone got here usb working on virtualbox? [13:46] Action: eviljames <_ [13:46] 2.2.2 closed source. [13:47] eviljames: 2.2.4 i have [13:47] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:47] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [13:47] non OSE edition should work [13:48] Action: pupit huhs [13:49] my mouse annoys me in virtualbox [13:50] sometimes i have to move it around in a square shape until it reaches the edges [13:51] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:55] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE55B6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] pupit: I use group 85 for usb-enabled users, and I modifed rc.M.. [13:59] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:59] what's up canada [13:59] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left ##slackware ("Burn it with fire~~~"). [14:00] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] eviljames: well i too have modified groups but what to change in rc.m... [14:01] pupit: sec, I'll check. [14:01] it was about the way /proc/usb was mounted.. or the like.. [14:02] aah I give up [14:02] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] pupit: apologies, itwas rc.S - rc.S: /sbin/mount -v usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs -o devgid=85,devmode=664 [14:03] eviljames: i think i've seen some article pointing to that and i know i tried with that... i'll try again, thanks ;) [14:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] arggg tired of it raining [14:04] pupit: you must be in group 85 as I mentioned before, and reboot. [14:04] ok eviljames [14:05] nix_chix0r: there is a time for sunshine and a time for drops. but God forbid Sun in UK. :D [14:07] Hey nix_chix0r. How's it going? [14:09] Hi pupit, how's it going? [14:09] eviljames: says here: /sbin/mount -v usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs -o devgid=10,devmode=664 [14:09] yeah but i am afraid i'll get banned from my internet being so horrible lol [14:09] firebird619, i'm good [14:09] firebird619: im fine, just fine :) it was a good day today [14:10] pupit: good to hear. I'ts 13:09 so I still have a lot of day left. :) [14:10] we had awesome steaks at his dads [14:10] s/I'ts/It's/ [14:10] my lill nephew got some medal and i gave him some money for being good in sport [14:10] pupit: ok, are you in group 10? [14:10] yes [14:10] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:11] but i had some minor issue, forgot to tell, devmode was 0664 [14:11] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:11] so ill try again [14:11] i've changed it to 664 [14:11] that's ok. but it might be better to have a separate usb group (#85 on my sys) so you don't need to have vbox users in wheel [14:11] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] thefalling (n=thefalli@mo-65-40-251-202.sta.embarqhsd.net) left irc: [14:13] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CD5F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] eviljames: i understand u, but i dont udnerstand all how it works in linux etc.. so i'll will wirte it down and try it later in near future, ok :) [14:15] whats wheel? [14:15] sudoers group [14:15] oh [14:15] pupit: take a look at visudo [14:15] y0 agentc0re|work. How's it going? [14:16] and i always thought when i red it, it has to be the mouse thing , silly me.. [14:16] haha [14:16] agentc0re|work: will do [14:17] uuuh i've made a mistake: "so i'll will".. c c c gotta be more careful.. [14:19] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-119.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@216.101.119.2) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:19] Greetings Lord_Khelben. How are you? [14:20] hello firebird619 and everyone [14:20] hello [14:20] if you disregard the heat i am fine :) thanks for asking [14:20] :) [14:21] It's only 55F/13C here. [14:21] ah i'd love to be here [14:21] now (21:21) we have 25C here and in noon we had 32 [14:22] s/here/there [14:22] jj_bird (n=augusto@189-041-55-180.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] jj_bird (n=augusto@189-041-12-069.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:23] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:23] wow, quite warm indeed then. [14:23] Lord_Khelben, Where is that? [14:23] hey hiptobecubic [14:23] hiptobecubic: greece [14:23] eviljames: i have changed the rc.S should i restart to take effect or just to log out/in? [14:23] firebird619, hi [14:23] pupit: restart [14:23] Lord_Khelben, sounds alright to me :D [14:23] pupit: reboot. [14:23] it's 29 here right now (14:00) [14:23] agentc0re|work , eviljames thanks [14:24] ah same as here [14:24] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) left irc: "Leaving." [14:24] It's suppose to get to 63F/16C here today. It's 13:24 now, so it may warm up a bit. [14:25] i'll buy an appartment there and come in summer like the birds :) [14:25] Lord_Khelben, let's just trade :) you can have mine [14:25] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [14:25] hiptobecubic: you have same temperature like here [14:26] Lord_Khelben, North Carolina < Greece [14:26] anywhere > greece [14:26] I'm in Minnesota [14:26] Lord_Khelben, what don't you like about Greece? [14:27] Lord_Khelben: It isn't weather like today all the time. The summers are hot and humid. [14:27] here that is. [14:27] hiptobecubic: big conversation :) [14:27] ah then i can't go to firebird619 either :( [14:27] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:27] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:27] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.85) joined ##slackware. [14:27] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:29] nothing like riding the waves of a netsplit. :P [14:29] yeah, we've been left on barjavel [14:29] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux [14:29] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:29] hahaha [14:29] Action: Camarade_Tux highkicks firebird619 in the foot [14:29] ah Camarade_Tux_ quit [14:30] hehe :p [14:30] Action: firebird619 puts on steel toe boots and highkicks Camarade_Tux in the shin. [14:30] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CD5F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] the split lasted so long we got a message telling us to disconnect and reconnect so we wouldn't be on the split server [14:30] Action: Camarade_Tux dies [14:31] oh c'mon, I didn't kick ya that hard. :P [14:31] You're not dead, I seen ya take a breath. :P [14:31] I can't say how hard you kicked me, I'm dead -_- [14:31] hahaha [14:32] was your leg broke? [14:32] no but I threw up my balls, don't ask me how that happened though -_- [14:32] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [14:32] LOL [14:32] hahaha [14:32] slackytude (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25bc3f830b0091fa) joined ##slackware. [14:32] greetings [14:32] agentc0re|work, eviljames IT WORKS!!!! [14:33] pupit: booyah! [14:33] dang, it's pretty bad when you're throwing up your tarballs Camarade_Tux [14:33] anybody knows the name of that two-way sync tool for linux/win [14:33] greetings slackytude [14:33] submission or something [14:33] y0 firebird [14:33] slackytude: er.. rsync? [14:33] slackytude: cwRsync packaging for windows... [14:33] firebird619, yeah, even their checksum failed =/ [14:33] eviljames: close but no cigar [14:33] when u come to Serbia, u have a beer from me :) [14:33] slackytude, that's unison :) [14:33] slackytude: CrashPlan? [14:33] pupit: just out of curiosity, what worked ? [14:33] pupit: sweet dude! :) [14:34] give that man a Cigar, unison it was [14:34] and written in ocaml :D [14:34] ^^ [14:34] I should /NICK ocaml_troll [14:34] usb worked on slack machine on virtualbox guest [14:34] Lord_Khelben: [14:34] Camarade_Tux: lol, that's really bad when they get manipulated along the way so much so the checksum fails. [14:34] ah ok thanks [14:35] does unison come with a GUI? [14:35] note : don't dip pringles in milk... [14:35] why? [14:35] Camarade_Tux: ... ftw? why would you do that? [14:35] you should dip chocolate chip cookies in milk. D [14:35] firebird619, they went through everything, including /dev/null, /dev/(u)random... =/ [14:35] ouch [14:35] they are a milk product and milk will dissolve pringles [14:35] Camarade_Tux: unison == GUI? [14:36] agentc0re|work, fresh milk tastes good, pringles taste good, pringles dipped in milk have to taste good ! ;p [14:36] slackytude, think so but there must be a cli tool too [14:36] isn't gd in slack? [14:36] firebird619, yeah, but I don't have chocolate chip cookies =/ [14:37] Plee, it is [14:37] in which package? [14:37] Action: firebird619 hands Camarade_Tux a chocolate chip cookie. [14:37] Camarade_Tux: thx [14:37] in l/gd-2.0.35 [14:37] firebird619, yeah ! \o/ [14:37] Action: agentc0re|work steals the cookie and runs for the hills! [14:37] ah :) thanks [14:37] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs firebird619 [14:37] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots agentc0re|work with his boomerang [14:37] *nom nom nom [14:38] A boomerang? wtf [14:38] lol [14:38] agentc0re|work, you were already down, you only dreamt of that -_- [14:38] agentc0re|work: you thief, first a cardboard tv and now a cookie. What's wrong with you. :P [14:38] agentc0re|work, yeah, and it brought the cookie back, that's a wonderful boomerang ;) [14:39] a cookie retrieving boomerang. wow. [14:39] I want a cookie!! /footstomp ;) [14:39] Action: firebird619 hands agentc0re|work a cookie so he'll be quiet. :D [14:39] slackytude, just checked : unison has a text interface and a gtk2 one [14:39] *nom nom nom [14:40] Camarade_Tux: yeppers, thats nice [14:40] its for me windows mate [14:40] btw, if you need bins for linux, I can provide you with some (otoh, ocaml apps are statically linked so you shouldn't have troubles using any available build) [14:40] I have this retail disk of The Dark Knight. It is such a poor stamp out that it causes my laptop DVDdrive to vibrate so bad that it won't read the disk. [14:40] he has been using synctoy but its not syncing anymore [14:40] Nah, its for windows [14:40] Wise of you to hand me a cookie, you are. HRmmm heh eh heh. [14:40] en1gma (n=en1gma@12-203-116-113.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:40] slackytude, hahaha :p [14:41] Action: firebird619 Ah heck, why not hand everyone here a cookie. :D [14:41] So I tried to rip it so I could watch it from HDD and it won't rip either, probably because of the vibe [14:41] Camarade_Tux: YAY! COOKIES! [14:41] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:41] antiwire: I though those new DVD's came with a electronic copy as well already though? [14:42] antiwire: At least the ones in the store i saw all did. I Think they were on USB drives. [14:42] agentc0re|work: I does but you have to give them your address [14:42] now, going back to my code, I'd have to handle C variable arguments and bind them to ocaml >< [14:42] antiwire: Oh, they're not on usb drives? wtf. [14:42] agentc0re|work: so they can snail mail spam you [14:42] I've already bought the rope to hand myself [14:42] antiwire: thats gay. [14:42] ghey [14:42] Camarade_Tux: have fun [14:43] Action: slackytude is sitting at uni stuff [14:43] You'd think the MPAA would regulate the pressing companies..at least make the retail disks work as well as a pirated copy would... [14:43] robot simulations and graphical data stuff [14:43] opengl and gimp [14:43] Im so going down :( [14:43] lol [14:43] slackytude, I'm not sure : shoot I hang or shoot myself ? [14:44] both [14:44] for extra effects [14:44] Action: slackytude smokes [14:44] antiwire: Or give a second dvd/blueray disk that has it tarballed or something... even a usb drive, they're soo cheap now anyhoot. I mean you paid probably 30 bucks for it, why not right? [14:44] antiwire, there was a game (bioshock), the copy protection was so annoying that people *had* to crack it so they could play [14:44] ! [14:45] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] even putting this crappily stamped retail disk into a set top box makes the set top walk across the table [14:45] haha [14:45] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] copy protection drm etc suck especially in dvds [14:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [14:46] eg regions and stuff [14:46] damn [14:47] wb nix_chix0r [14:47] Lord_Khelben: They're a pretty sad state of protections. [14:47] firebird619, thanks [14:47] well i'm not even talking about software drm..this disk was stamped so poorly that I can't read it anyway [14:47] why does anyone care if i buy a dvd from another part of the world. they will get their money since i am buying [14:48] making my own version of the egg mc muffin [14:48] When will these companies realize that TPMs = failure. They will *always* fail. [14:48] Camarade_Tux: http://deefs.net/humor/murder_or_suicide.html [14:48] whoa now TPM isn't a fail [14:48] they way they use it fails but TPM is a decent technology [14:48] antiwire: Technical Protection Measure? [14:48] ? [14:48] not's not correct [14:48] that's [14:48] antiwire: It's the "legal" definition :P [14:48] you think TPM is only used for copy protection? [14:49] you can store your gpg keys in a TPM [14:49] We're talking about different things, conceptually. [14:49] no [14:49] TPM is TPM, DRM is DRM [14:49] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:49] antiwire: are you talking about a trusted platform module? [14:49] yes [14:50] Then we're talking about completely different things, not just conceptually. [14:50] ok [14:50] agentc0re|work, lol ! [14:50] TPM (Technology Protection Measure) <- it's legalese, not technical jargon. [14:50] wasn't it Trusted something computing ? [14:50] ... [14:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] Trust Platform Modules have many sane uses but companies *can* abuse them [14:51] the balance comes from the fact that a user can clear a TPM chip if they want to though [14:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:52] agentc0re|work, I hadn't read everything yet, that's .... woah ! [14:52] greetings [14:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] hello The-Croupier [14:52] wow, long time no see.... [14:52] yeah comrade :) [14:52] nix_chix0r: raining I assume? :P [14:52] Lord_Khelben: nice to see you here man [14:53] whats up...you are not on holidays yet? lol :P [14:53] nah not yet. late august or september maybe [14:53] when everybody leaves :) [14:54] Action: slackytude wants some holidays too [14:55] Lord_Khelben: i see... where have you been all these months :p feeling kind of lonely here...the only greek in the channel [14:55] ;) :p [14:55] man, this study stuff really eats my party time [14:55] Action: slackytude hums Im the only gay eskimo [14:55] The-Croupier: i come here frequently. i don't remember being away for months. [14:56] there are 6-7 greeks here [14:56] you'll feel fine when your party friends come asking you for school advice later on in life [14:56] Lord_Khelben: i dont remember talking to any of you ;) haha [14:56] antiwire: or advice in general [14:56] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:56] antiwire: you think so? [14:56] slackytude: I know so [14:57] slackytude: That time will come eventually. [14:57] well, but later on Ill be walkig around with a bald head and a walking stick [14:57] lol [14:57] slackytude: I prefer to call it a beating stick [14:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] heh [14:57] nice [14:58] He was turned to steel in the great magnetig field [14:59] What would happen if Magneto and Iron Man had a love child? [14:59] aren't magneto and iron man both men ? [14:59] lol [15:00] mere details [15:00] it would disrupt the magnetic field of Earth causing a horrible radiation death to all who were not magnetic or iron [15:00] Lord_Khelben, ssshhh, you're destroying eviljames's world, he's only a kid you know -_- [15:00] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110216/ [15:01] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-141-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] i guess it would be omega level too right ? [15:01] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-141-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] antiwire: ohnoes. That would be bad. I guess I won't force them to breed, then. [15:04] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:05] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:06] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] eviljames, I LOVE YOU ! I had put beer in the freezer and had forgotten about it ! [15:07] Well, that explains where you got the beer. But what about this man-love? Where'd that come from? [15:07] oh that's horrible [15:07] eviljames, you wrote "breed" and I actually read "beer" so you kinda saved the beer ;) [15:08] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:08] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] http://www.beermania.be/sales/bush.htm [15:08] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] antiwire: It's not THAT horrible that he loves me... just confusing... [15:10] eviljames, hey, you saved the day along with the beer ! [15:10] If there's one thing I'd like to be known for, it's those two things. [15:10] I've already opened a frozen beer and now there is beer on the ceiling =/ [15:11] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:11] lol [15:11] Camarade_Tux: Ya, thats a crazy one in a life time type of chance of ever happening. It was almost like it was planned but not. [15:14] Camarade_Tux: Hhaha, ceiling beer = fun game to try and catch it all as it drops. [15:15] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:15] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] agentc0re|work, I'm renting this place so I'll probably have to pay for that =/ [15:16] es murder or suicide [15:16] bah [15:16] doh! [15:18] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Well just don't mention anything about it Camarade_Tux. Or just trash the place now, make it worth your while. [15:20] Zordrak_: ping [15:21] agentc0re|work, actually there is much more beer on the wall in front of me and that's hard not to notice it [15:22] it's almost night here and I can still easily see it on the wall =/ [15:24] i ran out of beer :(( don't talk about beer :P [15:25] he, I spent a whole sunday without beer ! [15:25] Lord_Khelben: In that case.....beer.....beer.....beer.....beer.....beer..... :D [15:25] had to buy some today [15:25] though its time to replace beer with bacardi breezers and rum for mojitos. too hot weather for beer [15:27] fresh beer then :) [15:27] Camarade_Tux: I was worried I'd have to spend an entire sunday without beer. I ended up doing so. Fortunately gf provided pinot noir! [15:27] Lord_Khelben, and I almost have no beer left =/ [15:27] eviljames, hehe :p [15:28] my biggest trouble is that I hate crappy beers, they are tasteless, feels like I'm drinking water [15:28] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] so beer ends up costing more =/ [15:28] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:223) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:28] Camarade_Tux: Indeed. Do you know Gulden Draak? [15:28] c'est un biere belge. [15:29] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:a5) joined ##slackware. [15:29] eviljames, \o/ your sentence is correct ;p [15:29] IPv6 up in the hizz-ouse!! [15:29] Action: eviljames is bored @ work, obviously. [15:29] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Action: firebird619 hands eviljames a huge pile of paperwork. :P [15:30] eviljames, no, doesn't know that beer [15:30] eviljames: me too. [15:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulden_Draak#Aroma_and_Taste <- I wonder why there isn't a "citation needed" there ;p [15:30] eviljames: http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/06/08/139242/Black-Hole-Swallows-Star?from=rss [15:31] did I told you I was mostly free for the next two days ? yeah, free time ! :) [15:31] Camarade_Tux: because it's accurate as hell. This stuff is _incredibly_ good. [15:31] eviljames, will try to get some :) [15:34] ikaiyu_ (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] gram (i=graham@mknod.org) left ##slackware. [15:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [15:41] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) joined ##slackware. [15:46] and after this beer... ='( [15:46] Evening all. [15:46] evening dusty :) [15:46] uzr (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] IS IT BAD THAT I WANT TO KILL MY BOSS? [15:48] Action: The-Croupier is sorry for the capitals..:( [15:49] The-Croupier: No. I will exact the same type of murderous vengeance if he ignores my demands for us to move our client database off of MSACCESS. [15:49] what did he do ? [15:50] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:50] The-Croupier: kill eviljames's boss and he can kill yours so you both will have allibi :) [15:50] did my nick switch? [15:50] somebody sent a newsletter as a picture..(wasnt me) i am in charge of sending it. nothing else [15:50] Lord_Khelben: good idea [15:50] The-Croupier: isn't it obvious who sent it ? from email address or something ? [15:51] ~ [15:51] Camarade_Tux, Hey dude, how's things? [15:51] then, he never saw it, and goes " if it was not good quality you aught to inform me" he didnt even see the damn thing [15:51] lets ignore the fact that he has no clue if it is good quality or not [15:51] what the fcuk whing about something you have no clue about? [15:52] God,.... ill get my katana at work tomorrow [15:52] nice. what kind of a katana ? [15:52] Lord_Khelben: the japanesse kind :p [15:53] lol [15:53] agentc0re|work: That's an interesting article! Check this: http://alexkrupp.typepad.com/sensemaking/2009/06/how-intellectual-pollution-has-crippled-americas-children.html [15:54] The-Croupier: i meant metal , who forged it etc [15:54] no more beer ='( [15:54] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] (except in the blood ;p) [15:55] Lord_Khelben: some japanesse guy, i dont know it was a present, but it cuts as a motherfcuker [15:55] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Action: firebird619 hands Camarade_Tux another cookie :P [15:55] Camarade_Tux: any corner shops near there? [15:55] Hey Pig_Pen, how's it going? [15:55] Action: The-Croupier hands Camarade_Tux some waffles :p [15:55] good, how are you firebird619 ? [15:56] doing great, thank you. [15:56] i wanted to get a marto one (spain) but i couldn't afford it at that time (i still can't) [15:56] firebird619, yepee ! [15:56] Pig_Pen: Did you see about the Tornadoes that went through Colorado? Did some major damage to the mall in one of the towns. [15:56] The-Croupier, 10pm and don't feel like paying 20Ђ for a beer or buying sheet [15:57] s/sheet/shit/ [15:57] no, i have not heard about that in the news [15:57] Camarade_Tux: 20$ for a beer? where do you live man? [15:57] damn, i can get a chick for 20$ :p [15:58] and drink that all night :p [15:58] Ugh. At that price, the love you want you ain't getting. And the love you're getting, you don't want. [15:58] Pig_Pen: Then, I forget which state, but The Weather Channel vortex2 team tracked a tornado that was on the ground for about 30 minutes. I don't think that was the same tornado as the Colorado, but I can't remember now. :P [15:59] hmm [15:59] 8,653 for tornado searching google's news page is information overload [15:59] lol, yeah. I'm looking for a link now too. [16:00] "...contributing to future alliteracy." Something ironic there? [16:00] The-Croupier, no, not 20Ђ of course but still too much ;) [16:00] Pig_Pen: Here's a video of the Aurora, Colorado one: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-268156 [16:00] Camarade_Tux: i suppose walking to a shop would not be a wise idea right? [16:01] Pig_Pen: http://www.examiner.com/x-219-Denver-Weather-Examiner~y2009m6d8-Denver-area-tornado-damage-forces-mall-closure-as-cleanup-begins [16:02] The-Croupier: hey... [16:02] The-Croupier, right now I have enough alcohol in my blood ) [16:02] ;) [16:02] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] Urchlay: hiya hows it going [16:02] drank half a litter of 12° beer :) [16:02] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [16:02] Action: The-Croupier is still having connection problems [16:02] :( [16:02] there were thunderstorms passing through when i went to bed last night, if anything happened around here i slept through it [16:03] Camarade_Tux: sounds good, ;) [16:03] i sleep good during rainy weather [16:03] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-89-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] The-Croupier: did you ever get k9copy built from that script? [16:03] how much alcohol do you think you have? [16:03] like 9% or more [16:03] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:03] does slackware use a package manager ? [16:03] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:03] Pig_Pen: A couple storms went through here too. I'm such a sound sleeper, I sleep through anything. :P [16:04] deco might want to have a look at /topic [16:04] Urchlay: it was you not Zordrak_ , damn, i was just trying to reach you... i have connection problems..i got around it today... stayed up last night.. what are the pkgs i needed again [16:04] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [16:04] you said something about the ffmpeg..and something else [16:04] The-Croupier, oh, and I also have some 54% alcohol :) [16:05] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:05] does slackware use a package manager ? [16:05] The-Croupier: libmpeg2, ffmpeg (and ffmpeg has about 8 dependencies too) [16:05] Out of curiosity and a boredom of KDE what other desktop environments do you guys use? [16:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] deco, YES ! [16:05] That are practical on a work laptop :) [16:05] windowmaker,xfce [16:05] dusty, openbox :) [16:05] what keybinding is ^[[p [16:05] ? [16:05] hmm openbox, not come across that. [16:05] ^[p is alt [16:05] Action: dusty googles. [16:06] Camarade_Tux, oh ok :P i read somewhere that it did not [16:06] Camarade_Tux: what are your passwords :p [16:06] oh, you asked for a DE, openbox is only a wm [16:06] lol [16:06] The-Croupier, not drunk enought to tell you [16:06] Action: The-Croupier didnt think so.. will try laters ;) [16:06] lol [16:06] dusty, and might want to look at lxde [16:06] now i have some k9copy to try [16:06] Action: uzr test [16:06] Urchlay: on to it bro [16:06] dusty: slackware has a package manager but it doesn't provide automatic dependency resolution [16:06] (although /me uses openbox as a de) [16:06] lots of good lightweight window managers, i like openbox, dwm, fvwm, [16:07] Lord_Khelben, ah what a joke than [16:07] that leads some articles to mention that it doesn't have a pm [16:07] anyone use epic? [16:07] which is not true of course [16:07] Camarade_Tux, thanks, checking out openbox at the mo. [16:07] lolwut, Not sure what you mean by that. =] [16:08] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] dusty, what? [16:08] The-Croupier: someone in #slackbuilds built it last night, we found out that it won't build with recent ffmpeg svn... use the 0.5 release and k9copy will be happy [16:08] err sorry, blame tab completion =] [16:09] Urchlay: do you still want me to try it... or is it done? [16:09] are slackware users elite ? [16:09] naw, gentoo users are leet, we are just slackers [16:10] Pig_Pen: i beg to differ, MS users are leet, they are the best at testing :p [16:10] is gentoo still around? [16:10] they always seem to find errors, no matter what [16:10] donito: check /nick [16:10] hmmm, I'm wondering if I know k9copy's author :) [16:11] Urchlay: ping [16:14] Urchlay: do you still want me to try it? [16:14] sorry, got called away for a minute [16:14] yes, try it, see if it works for you [16:16] it won't work properly on slack64, but should be fine on 32-bit -current [16:16] dusty: xfce [16:16] k9copy won't work on slack64 ? [16:16] Urchlay: ok... still working out the dependencies... [16:16] oi, lag [16:16] Lord_Khelben: the script Urchlay made...;) i think thats what he is saying [16:16] Lord_Khelben: no, or at least I haven't been able to make it work. It compiles and runs, but misbehaves [16:17] like, some of the controls are greyed out and you can't activate them no matter what you do... the "shrink factor" slider always says "Size: 0MB" [16:18] while compiling there are a ton of warnings [16:18] i had some problems with shrink factor bar not reporting correctly but it worked (on 32bit) [16:18] i was planning to try slack64 tomorrow [16:18] i haven't used k9copy in a while but it would be pity if it doesn't work [16:19] someone on 32-bit current tested it last night, and reported that it works fine [16:19] you could maybe install fred's -compat32 packages on slack64, then install your 32-bit k9copy package, it should work (I haven't tried this) [16:20] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:21] k9copy is awesome [16:21] anyone know of a PDF viewer that renders faster than KDPF that I can use on kde 3.5? [16:21] xpdf? [16:21] xpdf? epdf viewer? [16:21] xpdf but it doesn't have continuus viewing [16:21] xpdf is kind of slow too [16:21] xpdf is possibly the fastest viewer out there [16:22] well maybe it's just the page changing, so I guess that would be under continuous viewing [16:22] xpdf has always been very fast for me. [16:22] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] it looks like it's locking up right now [16:22] Hey thumbs, how's it going? [16:22] grekkos: pdf2ps, then ghostview :p [16:22] firebird619: muy bien, y tu? [16:23] doing excellent, thanks. [16:23] porque hablamos espanol [16:23] pdftops > pdf2ps [16:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] hmm [16:24] come to think of it [16:24] this is a website i printed as pdf [16:24] I can just print to ps or save the html, but I just wanted 1 file [16:24] Camarade_Tux: I just clued in as to why you were happy with my sentence being correct. Damn French language gender issues... [16:24] i don't if i have done something wrong but pdftops produces 2mb ps and needs 20sec to do it while pdf2ps produces 50mb ps and needs 3 minutes to do it [16:24] eviljames, hehe ;p [16:25] firebird619: mi ordenator portatil es rompe de nuevo [16:25] again? what's wrong now? [16:26] que es ordenator portatil [16:26] grekkos: lapto' [16:26] oh [16:26] que le paso? [16:26] ;p [16:26] Uh... Old El Paso? [16:26] firebird619: runs fine from a cold boot, after 40 minutes, it locks up [16:26] I think they make salsa! [16:26] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Action: Camarade_Tux gets nothing, /me studies german [16:27] lol [16:27] Lord_Khelben: the really annoying thing about k9copy (to me anyway): the 1.x versions are old, unmaintained, and work with qt3. The 2.x versions are qt4-only... so I can't try out k9copy 2 on my laptop because it runs slack 12.2 [16:27] thumbs: ouch. This is the one that you sent to Dell also with battery issues? [16:27] ah you were talking about qt3 k9copy. i have 2.3.2 version [16:27] no, I'm talking about 2.3.2 [16:27] gah, I shouldn't have drinked that beer, I want to finish coding something before going to bed >< [16:28] Camarade_Tux: Code drunk, debug sober. [16:28] (remember, that beer was a really strong one) [16:28] 2.3.2 doesn't work right on 64-bit, for me... and I can't try 1.x on 64-bit due to lack of qt3 [16:28] eviljames, just feel sleepy now ;p [16:28] eviljames: that soudns horrendous [16:28] firebird619: yes. Every time something new. [16:28] grekkos: It works for me. I have the Churchill gene. [16:28] thumbs: get a new laptop. :P [16:28] eviljames, but there's something special I can do : if I decide I'm sober, I'm sober ;p [16:28] Camarade_Tux: That just means you aren't anywhere /near/ drunk enough. [16:29] grekkos: que se rompio cuando me lo envio para su reparacione a dell [16:29] firebird619: I will demand a new one, yes. [16:29] good luck [16:29] eviljames, I can *never* really get drunk, I'd need several litters of beer to really get drunk [16:29] that will be the third new motherboard they replace. [16:29] thumbs: how nice [16:29] and that costs too much ;p [16:30] thumbs: why so many ? shouldn't the problems go away when the motherboard was replaced the first time ? [16:30] is there some reason why ftp server should assign only one gid to client, rather to check on in which groups client belogns thus allowing him to write to dirs/files owned by different groups? [16:31] Lord_Khelben: nope. [16:31] g<>n [16:31] thumbs: pues, no hicieron nada [16:31] Camarade_Tux: Next time I'm in France, we'll put that to the test. I promise you this! [16:32] the trouble with trying to get drunk on beer, you get full before you get truly drunk [16:32] eviljames, bet taken ! you'll be surprised ;) [16:33] Urchlay, yeah, although that beer was 12%/12° [16:33] This is true. Which is why you must drink strong (10%+) or just skip beer and go to whiskey. [16:33] gar0t0 (n=casa@189.110.79.177) left irc: "leaving" [16:33] grekkos: probablemente pretendia arreglaro, supongo [16:33] Camarade_Tux: hope you like straight Crown Royal from the bottle! Can you get Crown in France? [16:33] I don't really like whiskey [16:33] comrade [16:33] how's the weather in moscova [16:33] eviljames, don't kno that alcohol but I'm sure we can get it ;p [16:33] oh sorry, I am mixing the English and Spanish [16:34] Camarade_Tux: It's Canadian whiskey at its finest (imho, at least). [16:34] thumbs, yeah hehe :p [16:34] hm, have only ever had 12% beer once. Was already pretty drunk from vodka, so I dunno how it would have affected me by itself [16:34] eviljames, I'll have you try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arak_(distilled_beverage) ;) [16:34] Urchlay: Find yourself some Gulden Draak beer - it'll change your perspective on beer :P [16:34] jeev, hmm, hard to say :p [16:34] thumbs: yo tambien hablo el "espanisH" [16:34] Camarade_Tux: I thought you couldn't read Spanish [16:35] thumbs, well, I'm french so spanish is not that different but I can't really understand it, only recognize it [16:35] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [16:35] dustybin (n=dustybin@174.142.38.197) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Camarade_Tux, same here , i speak spanish and can recognize written french kinda easily [16:36] Camarade_Tux: This looks interesting... wiki says to have a chaser at the ready - love it! [16:37] eviljames, what's a chaser ? [16:37] deco, yeah, and along with italian [16:37] heh, I can't speak french at all, but I recognize it by the combinations of letters [16:37] Camarade_Tux, yep and portuguese [16:38] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Urchlay, and accents ;) "ouйch garde la pкche fils de pute" :) [16:38] lol [16:38] (that was how somebody would greet you on the morning) [16:38] hbahaha "fils de pute" very nice. [16:38] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] they're all mutated forms of Latin, which I supposedly should be good at (took it in high school, got all A's, can't remember much now) [16:38] eviljames :D [16:39] Camarade_Tux: Chaser is soda or juice on the side to chase the shot with.. get nasty flavours from your mouth. [16:39] fils de pute = hijos de puta in spanish :P [16:39] so similar [16:39] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [16:39] "ouйch" looks like the noise you'd make after stepping on a tack or slamming your finger in a door [16:39] like "ouch" with a french accent [16:39] Camarade_Tux: I'm very partial to Chartreuse, but it seems to be more rare here.. easily available there? [16:39] Camarade_Tux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_%28liqueur%29 <- the green form is beautiful. [16:40] Urchlay, actually "ouйch" is like "wech"/"wesh", just a silly quite meaningless made-up word [16:40] smithzv (n=smithzv@c-67-173-240-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [16:40] eviljames, I could go to the supermarket next door and get some chartreuse ;) [16:40] deco: Thanks for that translation, now I can use it effectively in 2 languages! :P [16:41] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.157.178) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Camarade_Tux: *drool* I'm jealous. That's my favorite drink in the world. [16:41] eviljames, hehe you sure live up to your nick :P [16:41] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [16:41] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] eviljames, europe probably beats any other part of the world when it comes to alcohol ;) [16:42] jj_bird (n=augusto@189-041-12-069.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:42] Camarade_Tux: Dunno about that, I am very partial to Soju. [16:42] heh, I say hijoooooos de puta often too. [16:42] lol [16:43] About damn time... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090605171242.htm [16:43] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Urchlay: this is killing me..there are so many [16:44] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] The-Croupier: yeah, I know :( [16:45] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: "leaving" [16:45] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] beer made me too sleepy to code =/ [16:46] sometimes, coding makes me to sleepy for beer :( [16:46] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:47] well, and it's almost 11pm too ;) [16:49] Action: slava_dp is in the process of upgrading to kde 4.2.4 -current 8-) [16:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] kde 4.2 = bloatware :P [16:50] Flame on! [16:50] eviljames, syntax highlighting : drunken/sleepy programmer's best friend ;) [16:50] and auto-indent too ;p [16:50] deco: False. [16:51] eviljames, tried on my pc , was so much slower than kde 3.5 [16:51] by the way..is there an accessory that you talk and the pc writes the commands you say.. voice something..what is it called ill look for it [16:51] Action: slava_dp is is also very sleepy and listening to iron maiden \o/ [16:51] voice recognition? [16:51] deco: Are you running a P3 w/ 256MB or something? [16:51] The-Croupier: voice recognition? [16:52] slava_dp: 2! minutes! to miiiiiidniiiiiight... :P [16:52] eviljames, 1.6ghz 1gb of ram , no excuse to run slow :P all other desktops are lightning fast [16:52] eviljames, yeah, still 8 minutes to midnight here :-) [16:53] well, kde isn't really bloatware [16:53] http://omploader.org/vMW56Yg [16:53] slava_dp, megadeth \o/ [16:53] Camarade_Tux, no i loved kde 3.5 [16:53] slava_dp, /me was listening to iron maiden too ;p [16:54] switching to megadeth since iron maiden playlist just ended [16:54] is there a built in alarm-type program I can use to tell me when 30 minutes is up? [16:54] megadeth, man, blast from the past.. [16:54] Camarade_Tux, In my darkest hour \o/ [16:54] Camarade_Tux, cool, mate :) [16:54] deco: The only thing about Megadeth that was good was Marty Friedman. [16:54] grekkos: yes i think soo [16:54] eviljames, F yeah ! :P his one of my fav guitarest [16:54] 5mins to midnight here [16:55] eviljames, have a the same guitar model he uses now [16:55] deco: Sweet.. have you heard any of his J-Pop covers? [16:55] eviljames, yep ^^ [16:55] grekkos, 'sleep 1800 && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' :D [16:55] eviljames, i have the gold one http://www.ibanezrules.com/namm/images/2005/P1010120.JPG [16:55] deco: They make me laugh.. I loved his Cacophony work... Becker is my hero, but Friedman is a close 3rd or 4th (after Vai, of course.. :P) [16:55] or even sleep 30m [16:56] only 11pm here [16:56] eviljames, haha yeah its weird but if you just listen to the guitar its amazing, [16:56] deco: Not gonna lie, that's a nice axe. I play a custom 7-string (as I said, Steve Vai..) [16:57] eviljames: low B string or high A? [16:57] eviljames, nice, if i would get a 7 string it would be a carvin custom [16:57] Urchlay: Low B, obviously. I listen to metal almost exclusively :P [16:57] Urchlay: Vai and the band Meshuggah inspired me to get this guitar. [16:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:57] Camarade_Tux: never do cat /dev/urandom [16:58] haha [16:58] meshuggah math metal! [16:58] I had no idea what was in it so I just cat to stdout [16:58] ^^ [16:58] the thing is how would i stop it [16:58] deco: That's what I play, all day long. Meshuggah, DEP, Ion Dissonance, Beneath The Massacre.. tech/death/math forever! [16:58] but cat'ing /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp actually produces sounds... [16:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:58] i figured [16:58] I've got a 6-string I used to string up with the bottom 6 string from a 7-string set (B E A D F# B) [16:58] let met try it [16:58] i didn't want to blow out my ears [16:59] Urchlay: aka Baritone tuning [16:59] yup [16:59] I have a Gibson baritone at my house right now, on loan from a friend for recording purposes. [16:59] eviljames, nice, i mostly play the classics megadeth,judas,and for more technical stuff dream theater etc... [16:59] this guitar's a peavey T-60, not designed to be baritone, but sounds OK that way [16:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] deco: For some reason, I absolutely despise dream theatre. I learned Panic Attack after playing it in rock band, but they seem like too much douchy noodling for my liking :P [17:00] Urchlay: still compiling ;) lol [17:00] second patch, then time to try your script, nearly finished [17:01] eviljames, lol, yeah i understand , i hate the singer but love the instrumentals , sometimes it get bored with them [17:01] i* [17:01] Urchlay: I tried putting GHS Boomers onto my 6-string. It has a floyd rose with only 2 springs in the back. I'll let you imagine how that looked. [17:01] i hope it gets done before this girl calls me ;) [17:01] The-Croupier: very nice, it's a static nois effect, and it ctrl-c drops it a lot faster than cating to standard out haha [17:01] only problem is it won't work while i'm listening to music [17:01] grekkos: lol [17:01] eviljames, sonata artica \o/ [17:02] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-119.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:02] love finnish meteal [17:02] metal* [17:02] Action: Camarade_Tux still has "buvez du cul" from Lofofora in his head :D [17:02] no hope... no life... just pain... and fear.... lol haven't listened to iron maiden for ages! lovin [17:02] eviljames: floating bridges are the bane of my existence, or would be if I were primarily a guitar player [17:02] great song but you need to understand french to really enjoy it ;) [17:03] deco: Good story about finnish metal.. the band Amoral used to be pretty death metal-style. Then the winner from Finland Idol joined up as their singer. Now they're like deathmetal meets 80's hair, skid row style. Incredible stuff! [17:03] deco: http://www.myspace.com/amoralweb [17:03] ' [17:03] "Oh, my D string is flat, let me tune it up"... now *all the other strings* are flat [17:03] deco: their weblog has the whole story... [17:03] eviljames, wow gonna check them out [17:03] Urchlay: hahaha well, it ended up looking like this -> L [17:04] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] i seen some mp3 files that you can use to tune a guitar with [17:04] i hate wammy bars :P that's why i have a fixed bridge:P [17:04] I just use my ears. [17:04] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:a5) left irc: Client Quit [17:04] I love whammy bars (as I love Dimebag Darrel) [17:04] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:05] But the 7 is a fixed bridge... [17:05] of course :P [17:05] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:05] yeah, if I were playing guitar full time, I'd play a Tele [17:05] I need a tele. [17:05] tele are so nice [17:05] mustapha (n=mustapha@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [17:06] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:06] is there a way to install and setup slackware in a nice logical tidy way? [17:06] eviljames, how long have you been playing ? [17:06] btw, I'm collecting rotten tomatoes : a friend of mine is going to see AC/DC live on tomorrow [17:06] i always get the impression that slackware will create a mess [17:06] he's being invited by an ex-girlfriend's mother [17:07] because of no package manager [17:07] weird, I thought I had one [17:07] which pkgtool [17:07] /sbin/pkgtoo [17:07] l [17:07] Camarade_Tux: I do do. :P [17:07] deco: 10 years now. [17:07] Camarade_Tux: beer kickin in? [17:08] deco: Though I was probably better 7 years ago than I am now... I had much more time to practice in high school.. now I barely put in half an hour per day.. [17:08] eviljames, i have been playing for 6 years but the last 2 years have been off and on [17:08] ac/dc live.... that should be awesome [17:08] The-Croupier ? beer has already kicked in and has already gone away ;) [17:08] eviljames, same with me lol [17:08] Camarade_Tux: damn, i have no chance of getting those passwords then damn [17:08] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] lol [17:08] The-Croupier, hehe ;) [17:08] I'll tell you when I'm drunk enough :) [17:09] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:09] except I never give my strong passwords ;) [17:09] here is one : "azdf" ;p [17:10] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:10] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] what's the bash command to check a string for a certain substring? What I'm thinking of in specific is checking $PATH so I don't recursively append indefinitely and make a huge path var [17:10] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [17:10] someone shoot me in the head [17:10] its 23:10 and Im at university [17:10] Action: The-Croupier shoots slackytude in the head [17:11] heey [17:11] Action: slackytude does something wrong [17:11] Action: eviljames is jealous of slackytude [17:11] eviljames: O_o [17:11] it's 14:13 and I'm at _work_ [17:11] The-Croupier: thx mate [17:11] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots slackytude in the head too [17:11] eviljames: eh [17:11] alrite, alrite [17:11] slackytude: thats what friends are fore [17:11] eviljames, hahaha :p [17:11] lol, yeah, great [17:11] Action: firebird619 shoots slackytude in the foot [17:11] oh, it's 23:10 and I'm at home :) [17:11] firebird619: O_o [17:12] Action: The-Croupier gets his katana and chases slackytude [17:12] I'm also at work [17:12] heh [17:12] grekkos, checked tldp's bash scripting guide [17:12] who is running in one foot [17:12] slackytude: I figured it'd take the pain away in your head. Did it work? [17:12] firebird619: yes, but now I cant go home:( [17:12] Camarade_Tux: I feel like there was a single command for it [17:12] slackytude: you can't hop? :P [17:12] grekkos, oh yeah, but I can't remember what :) [17:12] Camarade_Tux: or not command necessarily, but some kind of easy test for an if [17:12] firebird619: I guess so. and trying to hop faster than The-Croupier and his sword [17:13] if echo "$PATH" | grep -q string ; then [17:13] echo "PATH contains string" [17:13] fi [17:13] grekkos, grep don't work for you? [17:13] Urchlay: that's what I was thinking but I feel there was another way that was shorter [17:13] slackytude: quick, slap a motor on a wheeled chair and get going. :P [17:13] Action: slackytude looks around [17:13] I need a wheelchair, damit [17:14] there might be something bash-specific (all the weird ${blah:?-/} syntax, I haven't learned that stuff all that well) [17:14] Action: slackytude is no MacGyver [17:14] slackytude: shhh i told you will need one after sleeping with me :p [17:14] I feel like it was a - and a single letter [17:14] wtf lol [17:14] The-Croupier: sleep... with you? [17:14] someone shoot me in the head [17:14] eeew [17:14] slackytude, you're not McGyver ? I'm really disappointed ! ='( [17:14] grekkos: really? try "man test", it should list all those [17:14] Action: firebird619 shoots slackytude in the head. :P [17:14] 3 shots your out. :P [17:15] dustybin (n=dustybin@174.142.38.197) left ##slackware. [17:15] still better than sleepin with The-Croupier [17:15] haha [17:15] slackytude, you might be dead AND in The-Croupier's bed... [17:15] I've always wondered about someone trying to shoot themselves with in the head with a gun set on 3 burst [17:15] :O, gosh, what a bad day you're having slackytude. :P [17:16] Camarade_Tux: maybe, but I guess I dont care about that after Im bad [17:16] firebird619: well, not that bad, just damn long [17:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [17:16] slackytude, right [17:16] firebird619: and it will be long days for next 30 days or so [17:16] slackytude, but you might be almost dead AND in The-Croupier's bed :D [17:16] Camarade_Tux: that'd kill me! [17:16] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1244481397234.jpg [17:16] slackytude, sssssssssttttrrrrreeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ! [17:16] work safe [17:17] slackytude, that'd solve the problem ;p [17:17] monstro (i=1000@187.10.67.33) joined ##slackware. [17:17] antiwire: haha, nice. [17:17] Camarade_Tux: yeah, saves bullets too [17:17] antiwire, lol ;p [17:18] slackytude: are you young and yummy? [17:18] Action: The-Croupier hides [17:18] The-Croupier: I used to be [17:18] lately i've been tempted to go for a cougar [17:18] back in the 20th century [17:19] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:19] antiwire: cougar?! [17:19] is it better then slackytude half dead? [17:19] slackytude2 (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c60a809c23a7db83) joined ##slackware. [17:20] clicking refresh in mibbit is bad [17:20] slackytude: you entered twice you kinky boy [17:20] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:20] going for a threesome? [17:20] The-Croupier: good idea, let me spawn another slackytude [17:20] The-Croupier: you can watch, tho [17:20] The-Croupier: if you got moneys that is [17:20] heh [17:20] testicular fortitute [17:20] lol [17:20] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [17:20] fortitude [17:20] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:21] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [17:21] YEAH [17:21] depends on the show ;) [17:21] slackytude2, how big is your slacky? [17:21] whats up with you people [17:21] lol, i dont believe im doing this.. im not even drunk [17:21] Action: The-Croupier goes to get some beer [17:21] jeev, you're breaking records ! [17:21] somone sprayed sexual pheromons in the channel [17:21] underfucked slackers, all of yer [17:21] slackytude2: im pissed off. my rate is going down [17:21] slackytude (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-25bc3f830b0091fa) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [17:22] The-Croupier: your rate? [17:22] my third date of the day..is being late..she will be here in 45 minutes [17:22] i have to work tomorrow at 8.am [17:22] Is that some kind of speed dating or what [17:22] its 24.23 [17:22] sucks [17:23] but Im pretty sure you mean 23:23 [17:23] yeah, i had a bet with my friend that i would date 6 in one day [17:23] that doesnt sound like fun [17:23] and i did 5in one day [17:23] not the 3rd is late..unacceptable [17:23] you are one busy man [17:24] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [17:24] have to, my gf is off the city ;) [17:24] well guys, I'm getting really tired, better go to bed :) [17:24] lolz [17:24] and no, not The-Croupier's bed ! [17:24] LOL! [17:24] heh [17:24] Camarade_Tux: ;) [17:24] hardly any space left in his bed. its full of his speed date girls [17:24] Camarade_Tux: enjoy your rest. [17:24] hmm speed dating [17:24] sounds like a man's sport [17:24] hahaha [17:24] Camarade_Tux: you are always welcome ;) as long as you dont mind the girls [17:25] or slackytude :P [17:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] deco: that one as well [17:25] probably speed dating has the same problem speed chess has: it leads to people making really stupid moves [17:25] speed dating girls in your own house? now that requires testicular fortitude [17:25] mental note to meself: always wear protective underwear when meeting The-Croupier [17:26] lol : a python function : def cumtrapz(y, x=None, dx=1.0, axis=-1): [17:26] ^^ [17:26] Camarade_Tux: nice name ^-^ [17:27] anybody voted for pirate party? [17:27] A couple of Wall Street guys came in and ordered two well shots of tequila with lime and salt. They proceeded to snort a line of salt, squeeze the lime in their eyes, do the shot, then punch each other in the face. I actually named it: the Tequila Stuntman. Teresa Vozniak, American Trash [17:28] slackytude, haha, no [17:28] Camarade_Tux: not? [17:28] slackytude, you mean voted yesterday ? [17:28] yeah [17:29] americans do some strange things Camarade_Tux you should visit here sometime [17:29] snort a line of salt? *ouch* [17:29] WTF [17:29] damn i will need to switch my xchat to english since i just submitted a quote to noobfarm which included join/part messages in another language :( [17:29] antiwire: That's lame, it's already called an Ironman shot. [17:29] lol [17:29] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [17:29] antiwire: Who decided it should have such a stupid name? [17:29] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:29] apparently Teresa did [17:29] Urchlay: It's not as bad as you think. The lemon/lime in the eye is much worse. [17:29] slava_dp, what's your language? [17:30] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:30] Urchlay: Especially with contact lenses. [17:30] yeah, another *ouch* for the lime in the eye [17:30] deco, ru_UA [17:30] it sounds like something from the movie Fight Club [17:30] slackytude, I had to have my mother vote for me, I don't think there was actually a "Pirate" list [17:31] Camarade_Tux: well, it looks like they gained a seat [17:31] slava_dp, russian? [17:31] yup [17:31] time to go home! [17:31] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:32] Action: slackytude \o/ [17:32] time to go home [17:32] me mate is finally done [17:32] slackytude, finally lol [17:32] finally! [17:32] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:32] slackytude, congrats on being free again [17:32] for a few hours [17:32] your mate like mating mate or flat mate? [17:33] lol [17:33] :-D [17:33] nah, we study together and wrote two reports [17:33] study mate [17:33] :P [17:33] ah [17:33] anatomy, right? [17:33] anyway. times to goes [17:33] Action: slackytude slaps antiwire [17:33] lol [17:33] slackytude, i heard The-Croupier is available [17:33] cya slackers [17:33] argh [17:33] lol [17:33] yeah, night :) [17:33] slackytude: l8rdude [17:33] and see you tomorrow :) [17:33] see ya slackytude [17:34] slackytude (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c60a809c23a7db83) left irc: "mibbit.com: see ya" [17:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:34] gonna miss him :-( [17:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:35] eviljames, btw, I'll have a thought for you while I'm asleep, being at work must be hard ;p [17:35] fu [17:35] :P [17:36] eviljames, thanks :) [17:36] lol [17:36] Camarade_Tux, Bonne nuit !!! [17:37] argh. If I've just done svn checkout, is there an svn command I can run that will tell me when the last commit or checkin was made? [17:37] deco, buenas noche (or something like that ;p ) [17:37] Urchlay, svn log ? [17:37] (random try) [17:38] Camarade_Tux, just missed the s its noches :P [17:38] yeah [17:38] actually I ran "svn log | head", cause I was expecting 10 zillion lines of output [17:38] How to view IP address valid in slackware ? [17:38] deco, hehe :) [17:39] sleeping now, night :) [17:39] monstro, ifconfig ? [17:40] i have 2 machines with packet loss , someone tipped me about running tcpdump for some troubleshooting , but i cant see why i would , can anyone try to explain me a good reason ? [17:40] if you don't know what you're looking at in tcpdump it won't help you at all. [17:41] because you can? :=) [17:41] Knoxville (n=Knoxvill@70-90-77-201-BusName-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] yeah , i know that tcpdump i can se protocols and tcp header info , but cant see why would it help [17:42] ping stats gimme packet loss [17:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] DeeeeP_: tcpdump can give you what is missing,,, if you use it right..:( maybe ..dont know [17:43] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:43] yeah , i might see packet arriving and not turning back [17:45] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] DeeeeP_: ok... so what next... [17:46] dunno [17:46] yarvin (n=yarvin@114-235-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] was expecting some help [17:46] you wanted to see your packet loss, now you can so what is the problem. [17:46] what do you need help with? [17:46] i want to solve it [17:47] just cant see why tcpdump would help me solving it [17:47] and consider it a bad tip [17:48] Urchlay: downloading the k9copy-2.3.2 starting build now [17:48] ;) [17:48] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] The-Croupier: rockin' [17:48] DeeeeP_: tcpdump was for you to see you are missing things..it can do that ..as far as i understand [17:48] now..what is the problem you are trying to solve [17:48] ? [17:49] to solve the loss thing [17:49] DeeeeP_, replace your switch || cable || firewall rules || etc. [17:49] k, tcpdump is there to help in the diagnosis of /why/ packets are being lost... [17:49] Urchlay: nice man...there is some colors to that as well [17:49] ;) loving it ;) [17:50] eviljames, why would start to help [17:50] and a percentage...awsome script so far.. might use it as a template if you dont mind [17:50] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:50] DeeeeP_: Well, it'll be up to you to see which packets are being dropped. That'll go a long way as to resolving why they're being dropped. [17:51] DeeeeP_: but right now, all you are providing is that there are packets disappearing into the ether. Which ones? [17:51] ping , so icmp , around 25% [17:51] over the net, or just locally? [17:51] Has anyone here done much hacking around with LD_PRELOAD? [17:51] locally [17:51] first off, what is dropping the packets? are you talking about local LAN traffic being dropped or traffic to/from the WAN? [17:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWenQVUL3E <--awsome [17:51] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:51] DeeeeP_: is it wireless? [17:51] Lan [17:51] nope , wired [17:52] do you have a separated switch from your router or is it combined? [17:52] DeeeeP_: replace your hub/router/switch and see if that resolves. [17:52] connected to a switch [17:52] connected as in one unit or connected as in cabled? [17:52] yeah , eviljames ill try that [17:52] DeeeeP_: read everybodys advices [17:53] i am [17:53] do you have anything with that makes wierd, alot of noise next to your router/switch [17:53] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [17:53] DeeeeP_: what are the actual symptoms that you see on an affected system? is it happening to all LAN systems or only between two specific systems? [17:53] The-Croupier: all those colors and percentage stuff, that's not me, that's how cmake works :) [17:53] between 2 only [17:53] what service is being used when packets begin to drop? [17:54] if you say cifs/smb i'm getting the trout [17:54] all in general [17:54] ok [17:54] DeeeeP_: can you connect these two affected systems together with a cross over cable so you can isolate them? [17:54] "Getting the trout" Heh! [17:54] this will also isolate the switch [17:54] Urchlay: didnt do that in 12.2 [17:55] other switch would help it too [17:55] maybe its current that makes it soooo readable [17:55] DeeeeP_: yes, either way [17:55] ok [17:55] smica (n=smica@212.16.128.180) left irc: [17:55] so tcpdump wont help me [17:55] yes it could if you knew what you were looking at [17:55] that's what i wanted to know [17:55] it was fine advice for someone who understands tcp/ip [17:55] possibly because it's a newer version of cmake, or maybe the color stuff is specifically part of the k9copy cmake config, I don't really know [17:55] and ethernet for that matter [17:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] Urchlay: i got a wierd cat /path/to/slackbuild/k9copy.SlackBuild not found :( [17:57] redoing it [17:57] i got all the libraries one by one by HAND [17:57] tcpdump and wireshark won't help anyone if they don't know what the protocols being examined are supposed to look like in the first place but they will help someone who knows how it should look by showing them what it *does* look like when something begins to happen [17:57] antiwire: you cannot be more right [17:57] ;) [17:58] you ping, you expect an icmp packet of destination ... that packet doesnt arrive ... what do u conclude more than a ping stats ? [17:58] even if they show you the wolf, you wouldnt know it is a wolf unless you seen one before (even in a picture) [17:58] DeeeeP_: who said ICMP echo is the only test? [17:59] its only one example , other protocols would happen the same ... doesnt arrive , what can u conclude ? [17:59] DeeeeP_: check the other end..if you can [17:59] tcpdump and wireshark will show you a slew of protocols and the flow of each. if you can visualize what is happening with the tools you can determine where to look for problems. [17:59] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] if it's a traffic overload you'd see different patterns than if it was a protocol issue [18:00] it could be anything, software not installed in one of the ends, hardware problem in one of the ends, cable, router/switch....etc [18:00] anything [18:00] The-Croupier: ehm, how can k9copy.SlackBuild not be found? /me is puzzled [18:01] the bottom line here is that tcpdump/wireshark are useful tools and just because you don't know how to use them to trouble shoot a packet loss situation doesn't mean it was bad advice.... [18:01] Urchlay: i named the slackbuild you gave me slackbuild..not k9copy.SlackBuild :( fixed that now though ;) [18:01] antiwire, i didnt say it was a bad, just checking advice integrety [18:01] ohh, one thing, you'll want to create a slack-desc (it can just be an empty file, even, but the script will fail if it can't find it) [18:01] no slack-desc is not found [18:01] yeah [18:01] ;) [18:02] im learning ;) [18:02] just "touch slack-desc" [18:02] lol [18:02] DeeeeP_: wouldn't advice with poor integrity be bad advice? [18:02] ... [18:02] you won't see any description when installing the package, but it won't hurt anything [18:02] Urchlay: do i need the asc file as well [18:02] no [18:02] yes , but i didnt start saying it was a bad advice [18:02] ;) [18:02] doing it again [18:03] 3mins ;) [18:03] sorry, I should have mentioned the slack-desc [18:03] well like I said before, it was absolutely sane advice [18:03] ok thanks [18:03] Urchlay: sorry i should have known...i did that lots of times [18:03] ill try something [18:03] The-Croupier: use those 3 minutes to read the man page for ccache, it'll save lots of time in the future :) [18:03] Urchlay: ok ;) [18:04] DeeeeP_: since this involves only two specific systems and a switch, just start by isolating each object until you find the trouble point [18:04] DeeeeP_: even before swapping out the whole switch, I'd try using different ports [18:04] yeah , i will [18:04] switches can often have a single port failure [18:04] Urchlay: nice one ;) [18:05] Urchlay: damn man, i have so much to learn...and the bitch is late :( [18:05] DeeeeP_: also, the direction of the packet dropping is important for determining which device is causing the problem (which is one thing tcpdump and wireshark could help you determine) [18:06] guys, what is the difference between /usr/bin/ and /usr/local/bin/ are they not the same kind of thing? [18:07] ok antiwire , thanks [18:07] DeeeeP_: in wireshark enable options that show you the computer name, or ip..;) [18:08] The-Croupier, go read the FHS, it's all documented :) [18:08] The-Croupier: http://aliyev.ws/wp-content/images/filesystemhierarchyhb8.jpg and http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/introduction/position.html [18:08] The-Croupier: the short answer: /usr/local is for stuff that isn't managed by the slack package manager [18:09] (that's probably not what the standard says, but it's a practical definition) [18:10] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) left irc: [18:10] Urchlay: i see, and also.... k9copy worked, fine [18:11] looks alright... [18:11] what did you do and you got wierd stuff [18:11] so that i can try [18:11] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [18:11] you see the "shrink factor" slider, with a size in MB shown? For me, that size is always 0, no matter how much I slide the slider around [18:12] are you guys using the kde3 k9copy on kde4? [18:12] using the compat libs? [18:12] no [18:12] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:12] you made a new build? [18:12] yes [18:12] !!! [18:12] which appears to work OK on 32-bit -current but not slack64 [18:12] ah [18:13] http://pastebin.ca/1451439 if you want to mess with it [18:13] awesomeness [18:14] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] The-Croupier: Also, if you select "mpeg4 encoding" for Output, you get a panel full of controls (codec, checkbox for 2-pass, width/height/etc)... for me, those controls are all grayed out and unclickable, no matter what I do [18:14] Urchlay: let me get a dvd to shrink [18:14] yeah. probably a good idea :) [18:14] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:14] for educational purposes it just happens my bro got one from the video club ;) [18:15] yarvin (n=yarvin@114-235-58-66.gci.net) left ##slackware. [18:16] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:16] Urchlay: same here [18:16] they are grey and unclickable [18:17] i'm building it all right now [18:17] one sec [18:17] Greetings alienBob [18:17] The-Croupier: try changing the encoder from mencoder to ffmpeg [18:17] antiwire: the build and install goes fine [18:17] Urchlay: did that already [18:17] ...right but i have to build it to test it.... [18:17] ;) one step ahead of you this time [18:17] DOTDOTDOT [18:17] The-Croupier: this is 32-bit -current? [18:17] yes [18:18] maybe something missing in the build [18:18] hm. Someone in #slackbuilds tried it on 32-bit -current last night and it worked for him [18:18] some library ..or something it needs [18:18] hmmmm...i have a full install -games [18:18] eh, not *needs*, or it wouldn't have compiled [18:18] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:18] antiwire: a word of advice, use ffmpeg-0.5, not the latest svn [18:19] maybe something, that is optional but it would activate those [18:19] ok, i have the sbo version installed [18:19] but what? mencoder, I have (it's in my PATH even), and ffmpeg I have or the compile would have failed [18:19] antiwire: also, dont get the k9copy in sbo.. get k9copy.2.3.2 from sourceforge [18:19] do you think i'm a moron? [18:19] i can read build scripts [18:20] Urchlay pasted his script [18:20] monstro (i=1000@187.10.67.33) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] antiwire: sorry man, didnt mean it that way [18:20] antiwire: don't forget to create a slack-desc (an empty one will do) [18:21] i read the whole script [18:21] i see the touch info [18:21] oh, did I put that in there? [18:21] nevermind then [18:21] line 13 [18:21] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [18:21] yeah... that wasn't in the version The-Croupier got, I updated the paste late last night & forgot I did it [18:22] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE55B6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [18:22] Urchlay: what it does with the switch from ffmpeg to mencoder is it changes the copy from x264 to copy... but they are still grey [18:23] Action: The-Croupier checking the build log for clues [18:25] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "когда я умер небыло никого, кто бы это опроверг" [18:27] The-Croupier: that's the same thing that happens to me [18:27] damn, that guy's quit message has confused the hell out of irssi [18:27] we are missing some kind of "OPTIONAL" library or something [18:27] Action: The-Croupier is checking the log :( [18:27] possibly. But the slider reporting 0MB isn't a library problem [18:28] Urchlay: did you try pressing copy...cos from what i see... even though you cannot mess with the options that are in grey [18:29] it seems to work fine [18:29] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [18:29] it started copying the dvd... [18:29] yes, it works, for some definition of working [18:29] ok, if I go into settings I can change the encode options but I can't change them from the main screen panel [18:29] y0 compl3x, how's it going? [18:29] antiwire: yep, that is the problem [18:29] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.116) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:29] Hey firebird619 good yourself? [18:30] doing excellent, thank you. :) [18:30] The-Croupier: I tried ripping a movie that's over an hour and a half long, without shrinking it, and the resulting iso was 330MB, and caused mplayer to crash about 10 seconds into playing it [18:30] but it's just the main screen panel that is broken, going into settings lets me change the encode options so it't not an codec/lib issue. it's an interface issue [18:30] (that's just ripping, not encoding to mpeg4) [18:31] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.157.178) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [18:31] after I apply the encode option in settings, the main panel updates [18:31] antiwire: I suspect it's related to the tons of compiler warnings it spews, while building [18:31] ah! [18:31] so it works, it's just the interface code [18:31] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Anyone having theme issues in kde4 in current? [18:31] compl3x: going to need to be WAY more specific [18:31] /tmp/SBo/k9copy-2.3.2-Source/src/mplayer/k9internalplayer.h:17: warning: 'class k9InternalPlayer' has virtual functions and accessible non-virtual destructor [18:31] antiwire: Ie: When selecting themes - the apply button is greyed out and I can't change it [18:32] compl3x: checking one sec [18:32] antiwire: ive never tried changing the theme - so I don't know whats the issue - and im running latest upgrades. [18:32] compl3x: what kind... i havent seen any yet.. apart from only one that made all the characters in a form white and i couldnt see shit [18:33] ok, this maybe is a dumb question but... How do I tell k9copy to rip and shrink the entire DVD, instead of just one title? [18:33] (that's not a k9copy problem, that's a problem with me being GUI-retarded) [18:33] Urchlay: in the main screen, just hit the check box next to the top level DVD name [18:33] it will select the whole DVD [18:33] then hit copy [18:34] what check box? [18:34] in the title column [18:34] the line with an icon like a disk has the name of the disk [18:34] I don't have checkboxes there, I have a little - that, when I click it, it collapses the tree view [18:34] there is a box there [18:35] next to the - [18:35] oh, is that a checkbox? [18:35] antiwire: the button becomes active if I change one setting of the theme [18:35] lol [18:35] I told you I'm gui-retarded, I had no idea that was supposed to be a checkbox or anything else clickable [18:35] compl3x: it;s active for me too [18:35] Urchlay: hehehe [18:35] antiwire: but then nothing happens [18:35] im ripping this with mp4 and looks fine size 700mb ..changed from the settings menu.. [18:36] none of the themes are setting grr this is a nightmare [18:36] Urchlay: looks like the menus are working fine [18:36] just the panel in the first screen looks wierd [18:36] compl3x: works fine here [18:36] compl3x: did you upgrade from a system that had kde3.5 on it? [18:37] so the greyed-out controls and the slider showing 0MB are happening to both of you, too? [18:37] no [18:37] antiwire: yeah [18:37] it works fine for me [18:37] antiwire: but ages ago [18:37] also, if you select the box that antiwire pointed works fine [18:37] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] works fine for me now... if you select the whole dvd.. panel works fine ;) [18:37] VOBU : 64270 Read Error !!!! ==> 64507 [18:38] that isn't k9copy's fault [18:38] compl3x: Did you delete or backup/move your old .kde folder before upgrading to kde4? [18:38] either copy-protection on the disk, or my flaky old DVD drive is acting up [18:38] firebird619: yeah [18:39] I reckon Ill backup and delete .kde and retry [18:39] bbiab [18:39] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [18:39] Urchlay: for the shrink value to change you need to first, select a title then click the change factor box and then move the slider [18:39] Urchlay: i got a dvd i bought after all... and it works fine..with any encoding that i try [18:39] it will update the size then [18:40] ah [18:40] the box next to 'change factor' is also a check box, like the title select check boxes [18:40] yeah, I figured out that much [18:40] lol [18:41] hey just making sure ;) [18:41] just did that and reminded me of the previous conversation [18:41] lol [18:41] yeah The-Croupier! [18:41] Action: antiwire slaps The-Croupier with a large trout [18:41] so my confusion comes from the fact that the slider can be moved around even when nothing's selected. I was assuming that meant I was setting the global shrink factor... [18:41] Action: The-Croupier goes yeahh baby yeahhh [18:41] Urchlay: hahaha [18:42] Urchlay: I'm laughing with you, not at you lol [18:42] well seriously man, controls that don't do anything, shouldn't be active... [18:42] lmao [18:42] I'm with you on that one [18:42] it should lock the slider when that check box is unchecked [18:42] and when nothing is selected too [18:43] ok, hm, lemme see here... It might be that there's absolutely nothing wrong with my build of k9copy except my own incompetence at using GUI programs [18:43] lol [18:44] kunal (n=kunala05@ppp-124-120-229-26.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [18:44] also, after I select a title the encode panel works [18:44] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:44] strangely enough... [18:44] totally awesome..the new k9copy [18:44] thanks dude [18:45] bleah, when it hits the VOBU read errors, the Cancel button won't even work [18:45] animaDT (n=growll@cpe-24-242-57-246.hot.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:45] well, eventually it does [18:45] kde-base.4.2.3 is kde4 that one should have right... when you say kde4 thats the one you mean right? [18:46] remember that k9copy is just using ffmpeg and mencoder so hitting cancel just makes k9copy send a cancle to ffmpeg, so we're waiting for ffmpeg to stop what it's doing [18:46] Urchlay: yeah man, thanks from me as well... looks nice this little tool [18:46] antiwire: nope, when I select a title with mpeg4 encoding, the panel of encoding options is still greyed out for me [18:46] Urchlay: strange [18:46] I'll take a screen shot so you guys don't think i'm nuts [18:46] oh I believe you [18:47] Action: The-Croupier always thought antiwire was nuts [18:47] ok, I've just been informed "The truck is leaving the house in 5 minutes, you better be on it if you don't want to stay here" [18:47] (we're going to an open mic jam) [18:47] strange things happen with computers when he is around [18:47] Urchlay: nice. [18:47] so, eh, I'll see you guys later [18:48] later Urchlay. Have a good time. [18:48] see if you guys can find anyone who wants to test that k9copy build on slack64 [18:48] and if so, do they get the same thing I get where the controls stay greyed out in mpeg4 encoding mode [18:49] also, something else [18:49] later fbird, croupier, antiwire, whoever else is paying attention... [18:49] k [18:49] i have no 64bits [18:49] i r lame [18:49] I don't either. [18:49] the k9copy thing,,, if the cd is already in the drive, it doesnt recognise it for me [18:49] me neither [18:49] The-Croupier: ...hit "open" [18:49] animaDT (n=growll@cpe-24-242-57-246.hot.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:49] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] put the disk in, hit open [18:49] lol [18:49] haha [18:50] this is like a windows GUI class [18:50] antiwire: no i mean after that [18:50] except there's no "Click Windows Explorer" [18:50] firebird619: lol [18:51] hi i have probs with reading files from my programs, always about encoding, how i can see that my encoding system is ok? [18:52] bbl [18:52] localedef? [18:55] how i can set my default locale? [18:55] locale -a, list my country [18:56] and $locale give me the output with my lang [18:58] what does locale show? [19:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:01] http://pastebin.com/d102b27fd ovnicraft [19:01] did he leave? 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[19:06] He left Pig_Pen [19:06] oh, then he came back [19:06] paste that link for him so he can fix his locale [19:07] ovnicraft: http://pastebin.com/d102b27fd [19:07] ovnicraft: just change en_US to your locale and you should be good [19:08] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] Pig_Pen: okay, that was highly amusing ;) [19:09] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:09] the entire room was unresponsive and i was unsure if i was even still in here, other than checking netstat i had no way of knowing [19:10] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:10] firebird619, i did, after that i need logout-login? [19:10] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:11] possibly, i think after running those three localedef lines the language should be in your native tongue [19:13] if you ran it as just a user it wont be perminant, but i bet you can add that to ~/.bash_profile and it should set it every time you log in to that account [19:14] chopp: you around? [19:15] mustapha (n=mustapha@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [19:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.195.105) joined ##slackware. [19:20] anyone else unable to run youtube videos in fullscreen mode [19:21] HoldMyPocket: disable flash hardware acceleration [19:21] right click an embedded flash applet and go to settings [19:21] antiwire: i've read that, and i'm unable to do it.. the menu is unresponsive even to the keyboard [19:22] and you try before you go full screen? [19:22] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] yessir [19:22] then you're screwed :) [19:22] i've had this problem on 3 completely different machines [19:22] yeah i figured =\ [19:22] thought i'd check in on it anyways [19:22] All of my machines let me disable hw accel [19:23] did you use the slackbuild for flash or something [19:23] yes [19:23] flash 10 [19:25] antiwire: I am now. :) [19:27] the slackbuild didn't help either. blah. [19:28] flash is evil! [19:30] since mplayer can play flash videos flv it would be cool if some genius code monkey would make a browser plugin to play them using mplayer [19:30] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:30] honestly, flash is the #1 reason i dont use linux at home [19:31] flash, viruses, malware & other crap that infects ms-windows is why i dont use windows at home :D [19:31] Pig_Pen: umm firefox as an extension for that :) [19:31] flash works just as shitty in linux as it does in windows [19:31] mplayerplug-in ? [19:31] at least in windows it doesn't freeze on fullscreen, and the sound doesnt become crippled after a few hours [19:31] Pig_Pen: greasemonkey+HQTube+mplayerplug-in [19:32] HoldMyPocket: blame the sound thing with the 1000's of sound servers for linux [19:32] kitche: the only portion of the sound that doesn't work is flash-related, anything else with sound works still [19:32] i always have to close and restart firefox [19:32] nheco__ (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:32] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-41-29-23.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:33] http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2009.05.30/youtube-dl then run it in a terminal with the youtube url [19:33] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:34] Nick change: nheco__ -> nheco [19:34] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] ./youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPX0MSX5oBM like that [19:37] man that's a lot more effort than simply clicking full screen [19:37] lol [19:37] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [19:37] suit yourself [19:37] i hear the 64 bit version of flash works great.. so when slackware 13 comes out i'll give it another go here at work and decide whether or not i want it at home [19:38] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.224) joined ##slackware. [19:40] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:40] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [19:41] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.195.105) left ##slackware. [19:41] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) joined ##slackware. [19:42] I'm thinking of ditching our Verisign SSL cert for something else [19:42] the 64-bit version works the same as the 32; no better, no worse [19:42] pi31415: have you considered and other options yet? [19:42] flash makes me cry [19:42] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.160.217) joined ##slackware. [19:42] I see that Verisign bought Thawte and GeoTrust :/ [19:43] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] then google will buy verisign. and then there will be skynet [19:43] Comodo, DigiCert, and GlobalSign look good so far [19:43] sentience will be just around the corner! [19:43] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:44] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] yay and batman will save us all from the evil robot monsters [19:45] POW! [19:48] http://earlham.edu/~krameja/www1/video/?hqtube kitche, HQTube? how do i use it with greasemonkey? [19:50] http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999 this one? google is mean, dont use that previous link [19:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f70-29.fdsl.aegean.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:55] hello! [19:58] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:56] test [20:57] can't see you, try reconnecting [20:57] just curious: anyone else here use kmail on a regular basis? [20:59] hey antler. [20:59] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [20:59] I'm working on making a build order list for all things AV/DVD related on SBo [20:59] hi firebird619 :) how You doin' (voice of joey from friends) [21:00] doing excellent, thanks. yourself? [21:00] antiwire: awesome. [21:00] antler: having kmail issues? [21:00] good. tired. gloomy weather. cold. windy. [21:00] uzr: your message was all garbled. Please try to reconnect. [21:00] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.160.217) left irc: "The universe is not real, only possible." [21:00] It's sunny here, but cooler than it has been. [21:00] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.116) joined ##slackware. [21:00] y0 BP{k}. How are you? [21:00] BP{k} ? [21:01] firebird619: no, i was just wondering whether or not many people use it... that's all [21:01] firebird619: howdy, I am well. :) [21:01] what msg is all garbled BP{k} [21:01] antler: I use it, not regularly, but it is very nice. [21:01] 18:56 | uzr > ???? [21:01] Hey chopp [21:02] ah [21:02] hey firebird619 how goes it? [21:02] is my msg's still garbled? [21:02] uzr: Yep. [21:02] chopp: It goes excellent, thanks. yourself? [21:02] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:02] back later [21:02] firebird619: not so bad thanks. :) [21:03] uzr: MSG is generally always garbled into things. [21:03] uzr: the messages scrolling across the marquee in your head are unclear [21:03] 19:02 | uzr > is ?? ??? ???? garbled? [21:03] cool im talking in code [21:03] YOU ALL FUCKING DIE [21:03] now i can't get in trouble [21:04] Nick change: RJz0r_ -> RJz0r [21:04] oh? i see 19:02 | uzr > is ?? ??? ???? greta garbo? [21:04] lol [21:04] That's funny. I didn't even get a message from uzr at 19:02. [21:04] this is awesome! i can read what im typing but no one else is [21:04] FUCK YOU FAGGOTS [21:04] HAHAHAHAH IM THE BESTEST HAXOR EVAR [21:05] not for long bitch [21:05] aw [21:05] you can read it : [21:05] Action: sajes rolls. [21:05] hahaha chopp :D [21:05] chopp: lol [21:05] I encrypted it [21:05] err decrypted it [21:06] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:06] anyway im off to pork a fat chick [21:06] ill bring back leftovers for everybody [21:06] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] I am actually surprised you didn't get booted for that little shenanigan. [21:08] that can't come soon enough. [21:09] Action: agentc0re prays to the #slackware irc god [21:09] maybe that will speed it up? [21:09] try offering beer :P [21:09] and virgins after ;) [21:10] haha [21:10] BP{k}: Hey so my Second batch of brew has mellowed down and isn't as sweet as it first was. [21:10] lol [21:10] BP{k}: It's more bitter. It turned out real nice actually. [21:10] Just had to give it time. [21:10] agentc0re: You're making beer? [21:10] agentc0re: how large is your batch of beer, more than 5 gallons? [21:10] silkk (i=slacker@jedibash.com) joined ##slackware. [21:10] agentc0re: bitter is not a bad thing :) [21:10] i'll give up beer for the rest of my life given one night with one virgin a year [21:10] sajes: Yupers. Started my first mash this weekend and am waiting on fermenation for them. check out the pictures. http://learnix.net [21:11] silkk (i=slacker@jedibash.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:11] BP{k}: I prefer bitter over sweet. [21:11] silkk (n=kvirc@megatron.jedibash.com) joined ##slackware. [21:11] antler: LOL [21:11] antler: you are totally getting noobfarmed for that. [21:12] agentc0re: hehe [21:12] Are the slamd64 people working with the new slackware64 releases? [21:13] gnubien: I have 6.5 gal carboy's, it's probably about a 5.5 gal batch. [21:13] agentc0re: Mmm. Beers. :o How much is a carboy? [21:13] sajes: about $38 USD [21:14] agentc0re: where did you get your beer recipe? [21:15] gnubien: I just threw it together myself actually. [21:15] I read about the different kinds of grains and mixed them together. Thats what's fun about brewing. [21:16] sajes: http://www.beernut.com/Web_store/web_store.cgi [21:16] sajes: you can see average prices there. I'm sure where ever you live you can find a local store that sells the same thing. [21:17] unless of course you live in BFE. [21:17] agentc0re: I might as well. I live in the sphincter of michigan. The only technology that can reach me is satellite and dial up. :P [21:18] Hold on, i'm still waiting for your message to be sent. :P [21:18] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:19] agentc0re: Also, I like what you did with that mess of a switch-rack. :o [21:19] Action: sajes never understood why people let their systems get so unmanaged. [21:20] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] sajes: Heh, thanks! :) Was lots of work but at least i got a free meal and beer out of it :D [21:20] too many people talking in the ubuntu channel [21:20] anyone know a good cli torrent app? I found ctorrent wondering if anyone's used it before [21:20] LOL [21:21] Are you serious? Did this just happen? [21:21] rtorrent or you're doing it wrong. [21:21] hmm [21:21] maybe that's the one i was using before [21:21] agentc0re: I believe it did. :( [21:21] sajes: LOL [21:21] what happened? [21:22] does rtorrent have an ncurses gui? [21:22] omfgkthx my chanelz sukorz wit 2 moch talkz, givez mi ur adviz! [21:22] agentc0re: They didn't pay you to organize that rack? [21:23] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] oh [21:24] well I use slack at work and ubuntu at home [21:24] but seriously some of the questions that you see in the ubuntu channel are crazy [21:25] grekkos: I don't think rtorrent does. I haven't actually used a torrent client in a long time. :\ [21:25] Why are you using ubuntu at home? [21:25] sajes: I am salary. [21:26] agentc0re: Ah, I see. Well, at least you don't have that eye sore to look at everytime you go to work. :p [21:27] I dealt with it for two years before i could do anything about it... [21:28] sajes: just being lazy i guess [21:28] also wanted to test out the new version [21:28] ubuntu is on my desktop, which i use mostly to play games so it's on windows a lot of the time anyway [21:28] hah [21:28] ubuntu isn't that bad I like it a lot [21:28] i like slack a lot better but it's a lot more work to maintain [21:29] the computer at work couldn't handle ubuntu running flux box, but KDE on slack runs fine [21:29] re [21:29] grekkos: Ew, first ubuntu, now windows? [21:30] sajes: I don't use windows I play games on it [21:30] i know it's possible to upgrade from slamd64 to slackware64, but i would like to know if there already some of you who did that, just wanna know if there's something to notice .. :) [21:30] slKIvs (n=ivan@100.115.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [21:30] paissad: Dominian did it. [21:30] paissad: yes, Dominian.. [21:30] [ in bed ] [21:30] damn you BP{k}! [21:30] ok [21:30] ;) [21:31] thanks [21:31] sajes: I honestly can't stand windows but if I'm in a game running full screen I can't tell the difference ;p I also use it to test and compile some software I develop under linux/macx [21:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] paissad: he wrote about it on his blog but his site is currently down. [21:32] and os x too? You've got quite the collection of crapware. :o [21:32] sajes: my previous job required me to be able to test our software on all platforms [21:32] grekkos: Did it work on Minix 3? [21:33] I don't have minix 3 so I can't answer that question [21:33] BP{k}, http://slackadelic.com/ [21:33] Action: sajes headdesks. [21:33] I've never even heard of it [21:33] but as far as I know it runs on most unix based systems using some low level x windows gui [21:33] and a cli [21:33] grekkos: It's what Linus used before he wrote a terminal emulator that eventually became what we know as linux. [21:33] didn't linus write the kernel? [21:34] grekkos: He initiated the writing of it. Everyone else just took over and he became a commit monkey. :p [21:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] i don't know much about the timeline for the gnu project and linux but i watched a documentary a few years ago about it [21:35] Action: sajes is going to have to get some kind of wire management going here. [21:35] About 2% of the Linux kernel as of 2006 was written by Torvalds himself. [21:36] BP{k}: That's actually quite a bit if you consider how many contributors there are. [21:36] I like how his name completely took over [21:37] grekkos: Eh? [21:37] wasn't richard stallman the one who initiated the GNU project to completely rewrite unix as an open source os? [21:37] sajes: exactly :) [21:37] grekkos: Yes. [21:38] Way back in the 70s or 80s I think. [21:38] I'm just saying I like how his name got more popular than the original GNU's Not Unix [21:38] He called it Gnu for Gnu's Not Unix. [21:41] the kernel is way too complicated for 1 person to write all of it anyway... [21:41] *nowadays [21:41] scubacuda (i=rog@231.sub-70-213-131.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:42] I think at least a good 80-90% of the software that I used on windows and mac were all ports of linux software [21:43] Necos: Thats because if it were up to you, you might end up with Coco Puffs in one hand and Kernel Maintenance in the other. We all know which one you'd choose you crazy sob. :D [21:43] haha [21:44] chocolate cereal > * [21:44] ha ha ha [21:45] and i only eat corn flakes with chocolate syrup, you insensitive clod! [21:45] LOL [21:45] if you're gonna get it wrong, at least do it right... [21:47] slackaholic (i=1000@189-92-183-236.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:59] Could someone tell me if this would be proper format for an exclude file for mirror-slackware-current.sh ? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14574 [22:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [22:59] I don't know, but with moves like that, you'll never get first place. [23:00] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] You gotta shake it a little. [23:01] I'll leave first place shakin up to you. [23:01] lol [23:03] chopp: use --exclude-from= far less hassle [23:04] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:05] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:05] you can exclude from a file, too [23:05] amazon10x_ (i=sheldon@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [23:05] frullet: allright, I'm just reading up on that. [23:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:07] thrice`: so the pastebin would work as -X exclude.txt ? [23:07] fex516 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [23:08] I do --exclude-from "/usr/local/etc/exclude.conf" [23:08] allright [23:09] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] test [23:11] am i here? [23:11] yeah [23:11] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [23:12] yosii: Can't see you, try reconnecting [23:12] hitest: cool that's good [23:12] ;) [23:13] :) [23:13] antiwire, thanks, smartass [23:13] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:13] dln188 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:38] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:38] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:39] hi, I'm using xfce4.6.1, when I click hibernate button on xfce, it failed. "hibernate and suspend can only support hal, which is unavailable" [23:40] anybody can help me ? [23:40] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] I cant stand amarok 2.0 anymore, does anyone have any idea where I can find amarok 1.4 sourcecode? Ive been googleing for an hour [23:41] Im on slackware64, so I know there isnt a package in the repos [23:42] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [23:43] it's the first hit in google [23:43] ... http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Source [23:43] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@114.243.235.148) left irc: "Changing server" [23:44] antiwire: did you actually read my question? [23:44] I can find amarok 1.4 sourcecode [23:44] it will be on the kde mirrors [23:44] oh really? [23:44] I've found it already. [23:44] ... [23:44] berke: have you actually looked? [23:44] i think you mean ORLY [23:45] im on their site now [23:45] they have removed all links to the old source code [23:45] no they haven't. I've found it on a few links. keep looking. [23:46] on the amarok website? [23:46] im sorry firebird619 I just dont believe you, I think you are just messing with me [23:47] fine, don't believe me. [23:47] Action: firebird619 walks away. [23:47] LOL, firebird619 messing with you? [23:47] You're are more likely to be struck with lightening. [23:48] and then have a goat ram you in the nuts [23:48] haha [23:48] i have been googleing for an hour, I have checked all repos, even the italian slacky ones, not for packages, but for source, I know all the google hacks, and he says he found it right away, i will admit I can be stupid sometimes, but right now, about this, I dont think so [23:49] http://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/amarok/ [23:49] ... [23:49] believe us now? [23:49] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/source/kde/amarok/ [23:49] did you find it on google? [23:49] Oooh, look. [23:49] for crying out loud [23:49] wtf [23:50] nah you're right, we're really lying..it's not there [23:50] well, I am wrong, and admit it, i stand corrected, but I am curious antiwire how you found it? [23:50] I see the source for 2.1 but not 1.4 [23:50] donito: http://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/amarok/1.4.10/src/ [23:50] what's that? [23:50] omg.. [23:50] looks like 1.4 to me [23:51] antiwire: did you read my last post? [23:51] ah, there it is. [23:53] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:53] wb antler :) [23:53] the only thing worse than a sore loser is an ungracious winner, either way, thank you for your help antiwire [23:53] Action: agentc0re kicks antler back to the netherworld. [23:53] Goodbye antler. [23:53] ;) [23:53] berke: you said you didn't believe us, like we were lying...that's pretty damn ungracious... [23:54] but you're welcome [23:54] antiwire: You were lying. [23:54] antiwire: You are such a lier. [23:54] but you still didnt answer my qeustion about how you found it? [23:54] berke: i used google to search for mirrors [23:54] thats what I was doing [23:54] hey firebird619 agentc0re :) [23:55] did you find it on page 13 or something? [23:55] no [23:55] Action: antler comes at agentc0re with needlenose pliers [23:55] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:55] so you googled kde mirrors amarok source? [23:55] zy3fw3 (i=75c83295@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8583c99390621bb6) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [23:55] http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=amarok-1.4+tar [23:56] berke: weren't you asking about this last week as well? [23:56] we told you then that it was on the slackware mirrors. [23:56] *chewbacca noise [23:56] Yeeeah, fun toys! [23:56] well, sorry if I was being accusatory, it was rude of me, but I used slackware 7 a long time ago and idled here 24/7 and I remember how catty and tricksy people in here could be, dont know how much has changed, but I am reasonably cautious [23:57] I hear shrine is looking for a clown [23:57] Action: spook pulls out a BFEG 9001 [23:57] now now, fellas, play nice [23:58] (big fing eel gun 9001). its over 9000. [23:58] spook: get back on your blanket! :P [23:58] BP{k}: no this is the first time I have come across this issue, you must be confusing me with someone else [23:58] Action: spook shoots chopp [00:00] --- Tue Jun 9 2009