[00:02] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Connection timed out [00:03] w1ll: hmm reading the documentation in -current/testing/packages/*/ would probably be a nice and decent first ste. [00:05] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [00:07] personally I wouldn't see the need to compile packages from source... [00:15] redtricycle (n=lionel@ppp-67-124-90-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] how do I restart the dbus? [00:15] do I restart rc.hald? [00:16] rc.messagebus [00:17] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] thanks BP{k} [00:21] redtricycle (n=lionel@ppp-67-124-90-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[00:37] taquito_ (n=rich@75.22.56.2) left irc: "User disconnected" [00:42] --- Ping reply from slackboy : 1.93 second(s) [00:42] :( [00:42] edman007: fix your Internets [00:42] well stop feeling the poor guy up :P [00:42] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-54-45.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:44] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] thienma (n=thienma@71-88-98-7.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] thienma (n=thienma@71-88-98-7.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left ##slackware. [00:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] thumbs, i can't :( [00:47] CTCP PING reply from slackboy: 0.680 seconds i win [00:47] i got 1.66 seconds as well [00:47] for the record ^^ [00:47] "as well" as in it's slow [00:50] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.22.216.40) left irc: "." [00:51] This is a stickup, give me 1 hour of your time! [00:52] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:52] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.242) joined ##slackware. [00:54] e2kb (n=e2kb@201-25-207-212.jvece701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:56] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c220-237-124-212.farfl2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:58] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:59] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:02] taquito_ (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Can I boot a VirtualBox VM from usbboot.img? I can't seem to get vbox to make the image available to a virtual machine. [01:03] What I'm really trying to do is install Slack to the VM, and I have a full mirror locally, but I don't want to roll a DVD image (takes too much space.) [01:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:04] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Cool, I found a way. You can convert the raw .img to a virtualbox vdi with the 'VBoxManage convertfromraw' command [01:06] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:08] heh: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2342647,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532 [01:08] yay, i'm number 1!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:09] debian is for old farts... [01:09] they used my screenshot in the article, lol [01:09] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:09] hitest, haha, nice [01:09] :-) [01:09] look at the debian pic, even looks old [01:09] hehe [01:09] ya [01:09] Booting the usb image in vbox works just fine, and the network driver is detected (So you can ftp to the host and install the packages from there.) [01:13] so a gentoo user is having trouble ... i ask him "emerge FIXEVERYDAMNTHING don't work ?" [01:14] lol [01:16] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:19] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:26] that would be revdep-rebuild iirc. Good night * [01:26] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) left irc: "leaving" [01:26] I recently done a new kernel build, now when trying to use my thumbdrive dmesg doesnt give me the appropriate info on what name udev has given it, i have to run udevadm monitor to now get that information, did i miss somethign in my kernel build? [01:27] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:28] taquito_ (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [01:32] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-171-184.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:37] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-63-85-178.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:53] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.242) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:54] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.242) joined ##slackware. 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[03:54] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [03:54] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:54] dartmouth, seems like this guy could just bridge wlan0 and eth0. [03:54] Possibly. [03:55] dsd (n=t7DS@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Nick change: dsd -> Guest12797 [03:56] LopLiii (n=Loor@120.162.153.205) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:56] ccfreak2k: the issue with the bridge is that when i add wlan0 to the bridge it kills connectivity and dhclient on the bridge interface doesn't attach an IP [03:56] Spiko_ (i=Spiko@89-212-211-117.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:56] yet as soon as i remove the interface from the bridge i get connectivity back [03:56] im not sure what the deal is :/ [03:56] Uh [03:56] but yeah i should at least try it and document it so that i can get some help on it, i've been trying to get this going for almost two weeks now [03:57] Does your driver support adding another interface to the wireless card? [03:57] ndiswrapper? I have no idea. I thought that was at a kernel level? [03:59] If you can split the wireless interface (either using something like monitor mode or an alias), that might solve the problem. [03:59] I thought it was driver dependent. I just know that rt2500 can do it. [04:00] wow that would really suck. [04:01] alias? [04:01] WhiteMagic (n=WhiteMag@p549FCB1F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] how would that work? [04:01] Well, for Ethernet, it's the same physical interface, but you get eth0 and eth0:0 (or something like that). [04:01] Both have their own information like IP address and gateway. [04:01] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Not sure about MAC address, though. [04:02] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: ":q" [04:04] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:06] and this would kind of separate it from the driver? [04:06] ? [04:06] oh because its virtual [04:08] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [04:08] nope [04:08] you'll have the same problem [04:08] have fun [04:08] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@69.249.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [04:08] nullboy: :( [04:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@69.249.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:12] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:12] maybe there's something funky I can do with subnets [04:12] to sort of emulate [04:12] like setup an sshfs share [04:15] kresho (n=kresho@unaffiliated/kresho) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:15] grazymax (n=grazymax@host180-154-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:17] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:17] nullboy: what was that alternative driver you suggested? [04:17] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[05:04] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-118-221.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:06] \o/ [05:06] | [05:06] / \ [05:06] ^^ the tallest smiley one can make without being kicked :D [05:07] lol [05:07] hey lowkyalur, hey nullboy :) [05:07] hey hey [05:07] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [05:11] bono (i=bono@118-168-236-175.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:18] dusty_ (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:19] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:21] morning. [05:22] Camarade_Tux: hello. [05:22] hi stybla [05:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:26] what's up? [05:26] Morning * [05:26] Nick change: dusty_ -> dusty-work [05:28] beside the fact that the whisky-cola with already a lot of whisky had actually been blent with whisky-cola and not just cola, not much :p [05:29] \\o\\ [05:29] //o// [05:29] chernobyl hello [05:29] or whiskey galore hello? [05:31] I'd better grab a breakfast quickly [05:34] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:35] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [05:35] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Hello, world! [05:38] syntax error [05:40] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Guest68491 (n=root@ppp-124-120-128-61.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [05:41] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-55-98.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] Guest68491 (n=root@ppp-124-120-128-61.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "leaving" [05:44] grep coffee|touch >> /dev/mouth [05:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [05:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:49] why does slackware seems to miss so many info files ? [05:49] if you try 'info touch', you'll get the manpages which is completely unhelpful for ' The date string format is more complex than is easily documented here but is fully described in the info documentation.' [05:50] (the question was 'how can you pipe something to touch ?' at first) [05:50] That's a GNU issue. [05:52] I hate info, it doesn't even recognize hjkl as valid movements inside the page :grrrrrrrrrrrr: [05:52] josemanuel (n=josemanu@253.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:53] but I can't believe the touch package doesn't give you the info page... /me is gonna check [05:54] Action: Camarade_Tux will check a bit later... [05:57] Camarade_Tux: :) [05:57] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:58] he, rather than trying to fix gnu-nih-suckage, I can play with my fractals :) [06:00] which brings the question : should I use #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/(a)sh for the shell script I'm going to write [06:00] ? [06:00] Is that what you named your junk? [06:01] Most people use /bin/sh (which just runs as the user's shell), but it's good to explicitly specify a specific shell if you're going to use behaviour that would otherwise break on other shells. [06:01] Most distros default to bash AFAIK, but Ubuntu uses dash instead by default. [06:02] which causes much gnashing of teeth [06:02] I remember seeing a problem with dash being the default shell in ubuntu this week :p [06:03] I wonder if I should make my script sh-compatible [06:03] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] you should just make it as portable as possible [06:03] Portability is for chumps. [06:03] yeah, let's be sh, it won't be that long anyway [06:04] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:04] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:04] i just look at the openwrt project and cringe when i think about portability [06:04] ccfreak2k, but writing portable code often makes you write clean code too :) [06:05] it's a patching nightmare the other way too [06:06] DarkHelmut (i=1000@playground.unspunproductions.com) joined ##slackware. [06:06] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:10] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/new-kernel-build-udev-709969/ <-- Slackware related, havnt got any replies yet, just thought one of you folks would be in the know on the subject [06:11] bono (i=bono@114-45-228-160.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:12] frullet, I don't get it either, but I get the name a bit later on [06:12] I have lines such as : '[ 146.116086] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)' [06:13] or '[ 146.121985] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3' which is even more explicit ;p [06:14] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:15] http://taz.net.au/blog/2008/07/03/introduction-to-linux-signals-101/ [06:15] Camarade_Tux: Yeh, its abit of a pain having to run ( udevadm monitor ) everytime i plug in a thumbdrive.. [06:16] do you have the optioned enabled that causes the kernel to announce new usb devices? [06:16] option* [06:17] nsfw : http://www.loleg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/ubuntu.jpg [06:17] nullboy: not entirely sure, i scoured through the config file of the build and couldnt find anything along those lines [06:18] bono (i=bono@114-45-228-160.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:19] read the help for this one CONFIG_USB_ANNOUNCE_NEW_DEVICES [06:19] nullboy: will do, cheers [06:20] nullboy: yes it is enabled [06:23] otherwise, you can also work around the problem with 'mount /dev/sd ...' [06:23] frullet: you are still able to mount an fs on usb devices and access it normally though? [06:23] nullboy: yes [06:26] frullet, tried 'lsscsi' ? =) [06:27] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] Camarade_Tux: i have, only recognises my disk and dvd drive =) [06:30] you don't get a line for your other device ? at all ? how long have you waited for the device to appear ? [06:30] Camarade_Tux: 2 minutes or so.. [06:31] have you compared the output of 'ls /dev/sd*' before and after plugging ? [06:31] bono (i=bono@118-160-169-35.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] stupid question, you have already answered it [06:34] Camarade_Tux: I can mount the thumbdrive, i just need to montior udev before i plug when im plugging in the device.. [06:35] s/montior/monitor/ [06:35] I'm surprised because I never had to change anything when recompiling my kernel [06:35] (I'm a bit slow, it seems I still have some alcohol from yesterday in my blood) [06:42] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:42] Camarade_Tux: I did strip down the kernel a great deal, im guessing ive left something out i shouldnt have.. [06:43] I have too [06:43] the only thing left that could explain the difference is 'USB verbose debug messages' CONFIG_USB_DEBUG [06:43] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[08:27] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-431014.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:52] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga [08:52] Is svgalib_helper module loaded? [08:53] error on qemu , any help ? [08:54] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:02] upgrade the the svgalib_helper in patches [09:02] to the [09:02] aleskandro (n=user@net-93-144-50-37.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [09:02] hi all [09:02] noiseRX (n=root@ip120.canyon-view.slc.ygnition.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] I'm installing slackware the first time, and I'm in the source setup section [09:03] I selected http server [09:03] but now I must put the URL [09:04] do you know a url where I can found slackware software? [09:04] you dont have all the cd's or a dvd? [09:05] XGizzmo, I've only the first CD [09:05] okay [09:06] how the hell do you install the package that a slackbuild creates? SB.org says to use installpkg - which only wants foo.tgz... but slackbuild didn't ceate any .tgz files. only the untarballed source dir and an empty dir foo [09:06] go to http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ pick a http mirro close to you. [09:07] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [09:08] ok XGizzmo thanks [09:08] MakubeX (i=horas@ia.puu.la) joined ##slackware. [09:09] XGizzmo, so I can put ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/ [09:11] noiseRX: The *.tgz file is located in /tmp [09:11] XGizzmo_: do he really need more cds? [09:12] or atleast the first 2 i guess? :S [09:12] aleskandro: have you tried install with the first cd inly? [09:12] only [09:12] thats what i'm sayin man - only untarballed source dir and an empty dir called package-foo are in /tmp [09:13] noiseRX: then there was an error in the build process and it did not make the package [09:14] madbear, I don't know [09:14] I'm installing the first time slackware [09:15] okay thanks. and the .tgz will actually be in /tmp/SBo, right? [09:15] and with all other distros (gentoo the last) I preferred net installation [09:15] so I can take all software that I want [09:16] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:16] no it will be in /tmp [09:16] ok tanks [09:16] *thanks [09:17] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:17] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [09:17] aleskandro: ok, havent done that myself [09:18] madbear ??? I don't understand very good english [09:18] ahh found the error [09:18] Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated: Permission denied [09:18] any help ? [09:19] nvm , i got it [09:20] aleskandro: well what i know, you only need the 2 first cds, i guess the first cd will do, not sure tho [09:23] ALVAN (n=uyjkgh@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [09:26] madbear, but I haven't second cd [09:26] aleskandro: i think you can download the rest [09:26] like cd 2 is kde stuff i think :S [09:26] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.85.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.85.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:27] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:27] madbear, but can i download kde from internet? [09:34] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:49] Nick change: moha__ -> mohaa [09:49] vodafone basically wants my permission to spam my email address [09:49] so i created an account, fuckyouvodafone@spooksoftware.com [09:50] linu (n=root@196.218.29.241) joined ##slackware. [09:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:50] lol [09:50] vodafone sux [09:50] Action: lw0x15 uses vodafone anyway [09:50] damn straight,spook [09:51] they have the best deal for iphones [09:51] oh [09:51] moar liek iphail [09:51] lw0x15: have you played with them? they are awesome [09:51] nah [09:51] but i dont like apple generally [09:52] i like to send mms ;P [09:52] i played with only a ipod touch and now want an iphone [09:52] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [09:52] iphone just works. damn thing is very easy to operate, and requires very little effort to use [09:53] i dont like smudgy screens [09:53] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] i dont know [09:53] i enjoy my n95 8gb [09:53] lw0x15 : oddly enough, you don't notice it on iphone [09:53] while they smudge, you cant see the smudge unless the screen is black [09:54] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:54] aleskandro (n=user@net-93-144-50-37.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [09:56] iphone might be a nice phone [09:56] but its not my style at all [09:56] i tripped balls while playing with google earth on an ipod touch [09:56] you lift it up, and the display tilts to show terrain [09:56] lol [09:56] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] lol [09:56] spook_ : you know what you'd like then? driving in a city that has 3g network, and using google earth [09:57] lol. [09:57] japan uses 3g. and australia has excellent 3g coverage [09:57] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] seriously, it's amazing, considering it has gps in it [09:58] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:58] does it actually have gps? [09:58] i thought it was just triangulation [09:59] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] omg...i got soooo trashed last night [09:59] you recompiled the kernel?! [09:59] spook_ : it has actual gps, but it can use triangulation if you don't have clear line of sight [10:00] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] ananke: oh cool [10:01] kama (n=kama@host87-230-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[10:12] greetings [10:12] oh hi [10:12] greetings [10:12] and salutations [10:12] cheers [10:13] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Action: slackytude waves [10:13] nothing to do today [10:13] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] i'm going to look into what it would take to roll my own notebook pc [10:14] you want to build your own? [10:14] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:15] i'm just going to look into it [10:15] see if there's any cost savings [10:15] sounds difficult [10:15] probably not, because i'm sure i would need some tools [10:15] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h179n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Operation timed out [10:15] it's super easy to build your own pc, so i want to find out for a laptop [10:16] have you considered via open source design ? [10:16] *via's [10:16] noiseRX (n=root@ip120.canyon-view.slc.ygnition.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:16] dionsian: just check the wearable PC project for ideas [10:16] sorry..dionysian* [10:17] can anybody reach http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ ? [10:17] Taking forever to resolve [10:17] slackytude: no problems here [10:17] hm [10:18] oh well [10:18] aperturefever: i wasn't aware of it [10:18] MLanden: i'll look into it [10:19] does anyone uses enlightenment here ? [10:19] would be a cool DIY project [10:20] dionysian: http://www.viaopenbook.com/ [10:20] If you take a look at the new VIA OpenBook site, what you'll find is that the open part is the CAD files for the plastic case around the machine. [10:20] yeah [10:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] From: http://ostatic.com/blog/vias-open-source-notebook [10:21] Pa^2: lol [10:21] just don't be like this guy http://www.aboutcolonblank.com/2008/04/22/geek-fashion-the-diy-wearable-pc/ LOL [10:21] Pa^2: i just read that [10:21] MLanden: where should i go to find the wearable pc project? [10:22] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.159.30) joined ##slackware. [10:23] just google wearable+PC+DIY,dionysian [10:23] ty [10:23] np [10:24] hah [10:26] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.9.107) joined ##slackware. [10:28] hm, medevac helicopter has landed not far from our house [10:28] interesting [10:30] very interesting indeed,stybia [10:31] tell me more [10:31] I flew with one of those [10:32] dusty__ (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Connection timed out [10:34] i guess it's not very common to build one's own laptop :/ [10:34] very little information so far [10:35] aha. barebones laptops [10:35] now i'm getting somewhere :P [10:37] ...for $700+ [10:37] it's village, you know. [10:37] dionysian: building your own laptop, huh? [10:38] not if i can't save money doing it. [10:38] build you own cell phone ^-^ [10:38] that would be cool [10:39] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] i generally take joy in building my own desktops... but i only do it if i can save money [10:39] i haven [10:40] Action: slackytude shrugs [10:40] I used to do that, these days I only buy second hand stuff [10:40] a cellphone is just a duplexed two-way radio with some dtmf & authentication so you can access cellphone service [10:40] haven't built one since getting this laptop a couple years ago, but in the past i've always been able to get a lot more computer for a lot less money by assembling it myself [10:41] i was hoping that the same would hold true for a laptop, since i've fallen in love with this one [10:41] slackytude: same for me. good old gamming days and needs for bleeding edge hw are over. [10:41] but i want like over 9000 RAMs [10:41] Pig_Pen, there is a lot of stuff to access cell phone services, gumstix can do that. need only a good looking case, and IO hardware [10:41] and this only has 1 :( [10:42] stybla, aye, its the only way you can win against moores law, imho [10:43] I used to hate it the fact that your brand new hardware lost more than half of its worth after a year or so [10:43] technology moves fast [10:44] slackytude: i'd say it's even faster these days. [10:44] i never bought hardware for its resell value [10:44] slackytude, probably you were able to save money on desktop PC due to interoperability of components - Laptops use a completely different economic model. [10:44] Pa^2, true enough [10:45] vieq (n=vieq@unaffiliated/vieq) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:45] stybla, maybe, no clue really. I got this fine thinkpad t42 for 200euro and it servers me well so far. [10:45] that is with a one-year gurantee [10:46] I might consider specialty building laptops... fine exotic wooden cases, etc. [10:46] slackytude: ah, i wasn't talking about laptop, but - okay :) [10:46] slackytude: are there some pros that should, or could, convince me to buy 14" laptop? [10:46] stybla, I wasnt either earlier, but this is what I buy these days. good, second hand hardware :D [10:46] But they would not save anyone any money, if anything they would re-sell for small fortunes [10:46] slackytude: i just can't give up on idea of small lappy :( [10:47] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [10:47] slackytude: sure, i do it too - for desktop. i've bought new laptop though. [10:47] stybia:The question nowadays is HOW small a laptop..:D [10:47] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Excess Flood [10:47] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:47] MLanden: what do you mean? [10:47] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [10:47] netbooks [10:47] stybla, I see. well, some of the small netbooks could convince me too. like the one where you can detach the monitor. but so far Ive resisted the temptation [10:48] slackytude: no dvd-rom == no deal for me :s [10:48] heh [10:48] I seldom use the dvd-rom on my laptop [10:49] slackytude: i have 12" and it's okay, but - i'm going to take it back to the shop, eventually, due to construction problems. [10:49] sucks [10:49] slackytude: now, i guess it'd be good if i got convinced to buy "regular" size laptop. [10:49] slackytude: yep, i'm somewhat disappointed :( [10:49] rawramp (n=rawramp@static-87-102-68-72.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [10:49] stybla, what model? [10:49] ello all [10:50] slackytude: fujitsu-siemens v3205; there are white spots on display after 14-30 days. [10:50] slackytude: second time [10:50] Hahaha: a similar model of IBM Thinkpad that I am currently running Slack 12.2 on ebay $15.51 with 11.5 hours to go [10:51] stybla, hmm, never had one of those, but I cant remeber anyone saying something bad about them either. [10:51] Pa^2, nice ^-^ what model? [10:51] slackytude: guy at university has same model and same crap on display. i guess it's just a perk of this model (which i really don't want to have). [10:52] IBM THINKPAD R51 P4M 1.5GHz LAPTOP DVD-CDRW WIN XP WiFi [10:52] Other offering are bid up to the 275+ range... [10:53] Oooops, that was one starting price... mostly around 85 USD [10:55] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) left irc: [10:55] slackytude: i just ... i don't know. i can't kick myself to buy 14-15" laptop, as it looks too big and too heavy to me. yet, i have this old acer 15" laptop and it just - works. [10:55] :\ [10:57] Action: slackytude shrugs [10:57] It works for me [10:57] slackytude: i'd say - the smaller things are, the easier they are to break. [10:57] eh [10:57] atoms are pretty small [10:57] my iphone is a brick [10:58] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] it's fallen off of desks and tables more times than i'd like, but it's still fine [10:58] yeah, this lappy also had some rough rides [10:58] last night this laptop fell about two feet [11:00] when I needed a new cell I bought a cheapish nokia, altho Ive had really bad experiences with earlier models, like broken screen on first fall to the ground [11:00] Action: Pa^2 frowns... [11:00] yet this one has taken some damager and still doing fine [11:00] hope it continues [11:00] hmm. i wonder if linux on the iphone is worth it [11:00] on the other hand, it was only 30 euros, so I dont care that much [11:00] I carried 2-way radio for years in EMT field... never had a problem... This ancient lappy is solid but... [11:01] emt? [11:01] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) joined ##slackware. [11:01] tr0nd (n=mathias@h93n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] ... I don't beat on it. [11:01] Emergency Med Tech... [11:01] ah, ok [11:02] she_dyed (n=jazze17@adsl-2-215-57.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Care and feeding of electronics is a mindset, not a feature of a given device. [11:02] I doubt you can really compare hand held radios to laptops [11:02] the latter more of a consumer device [11:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:02] I service radios and laptops at work ... people just don't have a good regard for devices. [11:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:03] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [11:04] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:04] Laptops and radios come back from the field beat to snot... I still work with this R51 and my original handheld [11:04] /rant ... sorrry [11:04] Pa^2: not just at work, either [11:05] still, Id like to have laptop and cell phones that can withstand some damage. water-proof, metal-case, and so on [11:05] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:05] more ruggable,slacktude? [11:06] aye [11:06] Water resistant cell phone is a very reasonable request. [11:06] Lappy has to breath... [11:06] there are some frims who sell devices like that [11:06] until atom processors and SDD [11:06] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left ##slackware. [11:07] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.121) joined ##slackware. [11:07] hi all [11:07] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:08] bruno (n=bruno@bl10-94-228.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Nick change: bruno -> Guest98957 [11:08] http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-computers.asp [11:09] i use rsync -arvu to synchronize from one mashine to another [11:09] which option i must supply to make a file or folder to be deleted in destination if it was deleted in source? [11:09] vdv, man rsync [11:09] sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Nick change: Guest98957 -> LnxSlck [11:10] vieq (n=vieq@unaffiliated/vieq) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:10] slackytude: atom sucks balls with computing power :s [11:10] hello happy slackers [11:10] vdv, Id suggest takeing a look at --delete [11:11] stybla, cant have everything [11:11] slackytude: hehe, yeah :) [11:12] BOFH__ (n=berserk@79.32.84.128) joined ##slackware. [11:12] lol slackboy [11:12] i mean slackytude [11:13] i have a panasonic cf-h1 toughbook right now in front of m [11:13] me* [11:13] completely silent - very usable [11:13] i'm using it to dev medical software though, not general use [11:13] brixton, heh [11:13] brixton, is it tough? [11:14] apparently it can withstand a drop of about 1m [11:14] and is waterproof [11:14] but i am never going to test these things :p [11:14] if i destroy it, company would make me pay for it [11:14] heh [11:14] nope, there's no point to putting linux on the iphone [11:14] (15:10:30) (stybla) slackytude: atom sucks balls with computing power :s [11:15] it's quicker than i expected, all i can say about that [11:15] 1GB ram helps [11:15] http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/industry_solutions/military.asp [11:15] they make some sturdy stuff, too ^-^ [11:15] those toughbooks are made to keep sterile for those medical environments,right? [11:17] they are 'mrsa proof' [11:17] as in, it's water/wipe proof [11:17] it even has an annoying app which pops up every 60mins which tells you to clean the device [11:17] i had to turn that off.. do my head in [11:17] hm, what about laptops that can work 100% underwater, like on a scuba dive? those exist? [11:18] probably just 100% encased in plastic [11:18] laptop condoms [11:19] lol [11:19] anyway; back to work [11:19] can just imagine me trying to google for "scuba ran out of air" [11:20] i bet somebody has a waterproof laptop, there has been camera's for divers for years [11:20] waiting for someone to answer that email,Urchlay?!?....:P [11:21] they always say when waiting for an email, you shouldn't hold your breath, but... [11:21] LOL [11:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-0-33.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Samuel, or Steve? (or Michael?) [11:24] doubt it be Michael....not enough upgrades to keep up demand [11:25] heh a scuba laptop [11:25] funny idea [11:25] oceanography [11:25] it should come with its own little oxygen tank [11:26] waterproofing is probably easier than pressure-proofing [11:27] well, most scuba diving is well above 100 meters [11:27] shouldnt be too hard [11:27] and further down, makeing laptop pressure proof is the least of your problems [11:27] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] its more about making humans pressure proff [11:27] lol [11:28] yeah... I know next to nothing about diving, but that makes sense [11:28] I guess you could put the entire lappy in some kind of liquid. except harddisk maybe [11:29] dry martini..shaken but not stirred..:D [11:29] sorry,couldn't resist [11:29] but a laptop without wifi is kinda boring. [11:29] you need a huge antenna for you scuba dive too [11:30] so you can IRC from 30 meters underwater [11:30] "help, help, sharks!!11" [11:30] i can has more air, plz [11:31] hahah [11:31] hmm [11:31] actually [11:31] zomg u r teh drownz0rz! [11:31] heh [11:31] dive, u ther e? [11:31] if you stuck an antenna underwater, wouldn't you theoretically get great reception? [11:32] dunno. Salt water = conductive, and the ocean floor = a giant ground plane? [11:32] DeeeeP, sup? [11:32] dive, u told me u had freebsd over qemu [11:32] yes [11:32] not my field either but wouldnt your em wave get transformed when switching mediums [11:32] dive, u have usb mouse on your desktop ? [11:32] conductive and no obstructions [11:32] yes [11:32] except a fish [11:33] dive, how u enable usb mouse on qemu ? [11:33] it just works [11:33] not here :| [11:33] didn't have to do anything [11:33] ok thanks [11:35] dive, what kind of mouse did u choose under xorgconfig ? [11:35] yeah, I think refraction i sthe term [11:35] slackytude: I think you're right, they would change speed which would change the frequency [11:35] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:35] In refraction, a wave crossing from one medium to another of different density alters its speed and direction upon entering the new medium. [11:35] aye [11:35] don't remember and my machine is off atm [11:35] I will look later [11:36] ok thanks [11:36] so, you had probably rewrite the wifi driver to have a underwater mode, with variables like temp, salt density, water pressure and whatnot [11:36] also I think EM waves travel further through air than water (usually). [11:37] signal noise too high, add more salr [11:37] signal noise too high, add more salt [11:38] or a really long cat 5 cable.....j/k [11:38] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-0-135.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] s/d// [12:40] that's what it says for permissions and ownership [12:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:40] i can't even delete it as root [12:41] stybla, I dont understand that [12:41] root[/etc/ppp]# rm -rf /etc/ppp/peers \ rm: cannot remove `/etc/ppp/peers': Permission denied [12:41] j0z (n=JESUS@189.31.239.67) joined ##slackware. [12:41] slackytude: guy is visiting his friend and says: "hey, your place looks very clean". and friend replies: "you know, it's exam time". [12:41] r-tz (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [12:42] stybla, heh [12:42] slackytude: the point is: you do almost everything else, except (or to avoid) learning in this time :p [12:42] stybla, not the same for me, tho. during exam time, me place gets messy [12:42] anyone? [12:42] stybla, ah, yes, been there done that [12:42] stybla, not anymore, tho ^-^ [12:42] Nick change: r-tz -> rizitis [12:43] slackytude: i have another one in ~7 weeks, or so. [12:43] slackytude: but after that - slavery :s [12:43] slackytude: == look for a job [12:43] oral exam come monday next week + one in april [12:43] working all the time [12:44] yeah, but i mean - full time [12:44] I hade the good fortune to get a really nice job ^-^ [12:44] steerpike, lsattr /etc/ppp/peers what gives [12:44] slackytude: one lucky bastard, you are :p [12:44] stybla, so, that is the last exam for you? [12:44] stybla, eh, you dont know my job history, Ive lot of shitty ones. Ive been a garbage guy too [12:44] slackytude: well, sort of. my studies were prolonged :(, so i won't visit school next year that much. [12:45] ALVAN: root[/etc/ppp]# lsattr peers \ lsattr: Permission denied while trying to stat peers [12:45] stybla, just come for the exams? 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[12:48] hm strange you sound like you are not root [12:48] this is what it says if i just ls -l in the directory peers is in [12:48] i am root [12:48] slackytude: can't chmod it either [12:48] sucks [12:49] ls -l \ ls: cannot access peers: Permission denied \ total 0 ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? peers [12:49] run fsck [12:49] slackytude: yeah, you are right. [12:49] fsck.reiserfs ? [12:49] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] what parameters? [12:50] steerpike, if you have reiser, yeah. [12:50] no clue, just a genereal fsck of the FS [12:50] steerpike, default are fine [12:50] but you msut unmount the partition [12:51] oh, how do i do that while booted? [12:51] is it the / [12:51] ? [12:51] yeah [12:51] tough luck [12:52] i have to force it to fsck before booting? [12:53] steerpike, yeah you can try that but better to do it from a boot cd or something [12:53] isn't there a file you just have to change? [12:53] the are no other problems only that file permisions problem [12:54] dmesg | less shows everything is ok [12:54] fsck is usually run on corrupted file system ... your hard disk looks ok ? [12:55] CaptObviousman (n=The_Capt@unaffiliated/captobviousman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] steerpike: touch /forcefsck then reboot will force a file system check on next boot [12:55] ALVAN: i regularly get these messages.. http://rafb.net/p/jxnNEs39.html [12:55] rawramp: thanks :) [12:55] steerpike, that doesnt look good [12:56] will fsck fix it? [12:56] if you are lucky [12:56] was there a power out while it was doing something? [12:56] steerpike, yeah only if you are lucky check ..those errors are not good [12:57] well, it's a laptop, it happens when i let the battery discharge [12:57] aye [12:57] reiser doesnt like that [12:57] but it will repair most of it [12:57] hrm, ok [12:57] some stuff might get missing [12:58] normally should fix them after the next boot automatically [12:58] Ive ran reiser on a really shitty pc with bad memory and total locks every random hour [12:58] maybe that happen to many times [12:58] reiser used to trash the FS sometimes but it usually managed to repair it too [12:59] yea same here .rarely it happens to trash the FS on my side [12:59] nitro25 (n=IceChat7@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] steerpike, anyway, worst case scenario is hardware failure of harddisk or total corruption of FS [12:59] it trash it sometimes when i had power problems with the power supply [12:59] alright, i'm rebooting, lets see what happens [12:59] godspeed [13:00] thanks again :) [13:00] but on power failures because blackouts it was every time ok [13:00] it rerun fine the transactions no need for a forcefsck [13:00] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-204349.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still, the whol [13:01] CaptObviousman (n=The_Capt@unaffiliated/captobviousman) joined ##slackware. [13:01] ALVAN, heh, I had to boot from cd every other week, letting reiser rebuild the tree [13:01] fun times [13:02] on laptops HDD get really hot, especially if you block the ventilation holes ... i encounter many laptops with bad blocks on HDD`s or broken HDD` s [13:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] shouldnt they power down automatically then? [13:03] steerpike (i=420795a1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9f34561beb9e482d) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:03] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.121) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:03] if there are bad blocks on HDD no.. why do you think it should ? [13:05] I mean, if temp goes too high [13:06] slackytude, neah depends only the cpu is monitored on most of them [13:06] I see [13:07] even so if you look at the bios laptop .. you will see it has few things [13:07] dont know exactly how good is that temperature monitor [13:08] is there any LEGAL way to make the neighbor's pitbull not growl, bark, and bite at the fence constantly anytime i go in my backyard ?? [13:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host29-63-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:08] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] slackytude, if you put the laptop on a blanket .. at let it there few hours .. you will see it goes really hot [13:09] i can see the owner, sitting in his house like he don't care, he thinks it's cool that his dog wants to kill whitey [13:09] steerpike (i=80e48006@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a0191fbc4a4addd) joined ##slackware. [13:09] touch /forcefsck didn't seem to do anything :\ [13:09] Soul_keeper: get some of that mace used for repelling bears in the BIG spray can [13:09] what kind of fence anyway? [13:10] wooden slat kind of fence? [13:10] or diamond link [13:10] ALVAN, heh, I know. mine will shutdown, tho [13:10] sounds like a good idea [13:10] dangerous animals like that should be killed, they can escape a back yard fence and harm people easily [13:10] are you sure i just have to `touch /forcefsck` and reboot? [13:11] Pig_Pen true, been in the news too often [13:11] steerpike, boot from cd and issue a resier fsck with rebuild-tree [13:11] knowing my luck i'll end up in jail if i mace the neighbor's dog [13:11] steerpike, othwersie I dont know [13:11] steerpike: yes you can also try shutdown -F throw a sausage with tranquilizer to calm him down [13:11] some time in the middle of the night just toss some hamburger laced with plenty of rat poison over the fense [13:11] rawramp: tried that the first time :\ [13:12] steerpike: its not usually done but you can fsck a mounted fs if desperate [13:12] be ware of the issues though [13:12] should i remove the "read-only" for / in lilo.conf? [13:12] steerpike, try touch /etc/forcefsck [13:13] then reboot [13:13] hmm [13:13] kk [13:13] brb again [13:13] no leave that ro in lilo.conf [13:13] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:13] gotcha [13:13] no liveCD or rescue CD for steerpike available? [13:14] not with me atm [13:14] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] k [13:16] smoytra (n=smotra@77.42.228.103) joined ##slackware. [13:16] anyone get this error: WARNING: `makeinfo' is missing on your system. when compiling binutils? [13:16] I do have makeinfo installed [13:16] smoytra, type makeinfo [13:17] visf (n=visf@bb219-75-46-179.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. 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[13:21] dusty-work (n=dusty@linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [13:21] but again you did not paste the output of " type makeinfo " :P [13:23] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:23] makeinfo is hashed (/usr/bin/makeinfo) [13:24] aha .. [13:24] sso? [13:25] do your run Slackware distro ? as makeinfo on slackware is not hashed [13:25] its slackware [13:25] it should have the output makeinfo is /usr/bin/makeinfo [13:26] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:26] what you see on head -n 1 /usr/bin/makeinfo [13:26] head -n 1 /usr/bin/makeinfo [13:27] :P or better " file /usr/bin/makeinfo " what gives [13:27] hehe :) [13:28] gives /usr/bin/makeinfo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [13:28] still strange why your type is hashed [13:28] huh? is that slack? [13:28] slackware bins are stripped [13:28] yeah i know dont know [13:29] dont know why the bins are different on his side [13:29] how can I be sure if its slackware then? [13:29] his /usr/bin/makeinfo looks ok [13:29] ok I compiled ftp://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/d/binutils [13:30] lemme try gcc now [13:30] file /usr/bin/makeinfo [13:30] /usr/bin/makeinfo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [13:30] smoytra, cat /etc/*version* [13:30] or cat /etc/*release* for other distro versions [13:31] smoytra, one question why do you compile binutils for ? [13:31] gcc [13:31] the default that came with slackware are no good ? [13:31] does not work with default glibc and gcc [13:32] slackware 12.2 [13:32] binutils-2.18 [13:32] no i meant why you want to compile them ..not with what you compile they [13:32] risperidon (n=dimorf@189.77.57.103) joined ##slackware. [13:32] so why you want to compile binutils ? [13:32] because im programming microcontrollers [13:33] the default glibc, and gcc does not include support for avr microcontrollers [13:33] steerpike (i=80e48006@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7fb509a944d39769) joined ##slackware. [13:33] ok, on the next boot it had removed the /etc/forcefsck, but it didn't try to repair anything [13:33] so far gcc seems to be happily compiling, wait and see. It takes awhile... [13:34] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] someone said i could try to fsck while the disk is mounted? [13:35] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-229-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,java,objc [13:36] smoytra, best way to compile binutils on slackware is to use the binutils slackware build script from source and modify it`s configure options with the ones you want [13:37] steerpike, no that`s is no good you can had problems and file system corruption [13:38] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] so there's absolutely no other way i can remove this file while it's mounted? [13:40] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:41] janemba kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [13:41] whoa [13:41] nixfreak (n=ice9@mn-10k-dhcp3-837.dsl.hickorytech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] is there a prolog slackware package [13:42] for 12.0 [13:42] nemosphere (n=nemosphe@nadar.nemosphere.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] i had to boot from floppy/usb distro [13:42] so that the hdd's remained unmounted [13:43] nixfreak: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/development/swi-prolog-lite/ [13:43] thanks [13:45] damn source link is bad [13:46] just going to get gprolog thanks [13:46] nixfreak works fine for me [13:46] steerpike (i=80e48006@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7fb509a944d39769) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:47] hmm the source link does ? 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[13:57] recompile gcc to support avr yes [13:57] ../configure --target=avr --prefix=/usr/local/avr --disable-nls --enable-language=c [13:58] Action: edman007|work finds his slackbuild [13:58] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:58] i think i made one anyways... [13:58] edman007: what do you mean? what do you syggest I do [13:58] DeeeeP, fixed it yet? [14:01] edman007 still herre? [14:01] smoytra, this is what i used (though for 64-bit, so you should change the arch and make LIBSUFFIX="" and check for anything with 64 in the path http://pastebin.com/m31b3374 [14:01] and it needs all the files the the offical slackbuild [14:02] which means download this too -> http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/d/gcc/ [14:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [14:02] basically replace the gcc.Slackbuild with what i have, and i think it should pretty much work (maybe with some 32-bit fixes) [14:03] josemanuel (n=josemanu@253.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:03] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [14:03] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn165.91-127-70.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Guest64136 (n=zerone@ppp-94-64-205-90.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:04] edman007: Ok, I will try it now. Thx! 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[14:17] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] edman007|work, i'll be going to the hospital later on [14:18] tr0nd (n=mathias@h93n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:18] Action: edman007|work looks for a bunker [14:19] nix_chix0r, you are probably going to be in here all day then huh? [14:19] lol [14:19] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] greetings and salutations [14:19] Action: edman007|work waves [14:19] greetings andarius. How are you? [14:20] Action: andarius waves back [14:20] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:20] salutations firebird619, good. and you ? [14:20] Good, thanks. [14:21] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-155-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:23] ed, deppending on how it goes [14:25] nix_chix0r, did you pick out a laptop for him already? [14:25] dont have time for that right now [14:25] let him IRC before he is out [14:25] more important things like pooping out a baby [14:25] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:26] not in the mood for funny buisness either [14:26] dive, i tryed to use -usbdevice host: , lost mouse on host os :) [14:26] i'll probally rip your head off [14:26] dive, so , no , not fixed yet [14:27] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [14:27] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:27] nix_chix0r, oh....you are mean [14:27] DeeeeP, try -usbdevice mouse [14:27] women in labor aren't supposed to be nice ed [14:27] and it's not time for me to go in yet [14:27] so i'm annoyed [14:27] dive, ok [14:28] hahah [14:28] that's why they give you drugs [14:28] to make you happy:P [14:28] Action: edman007|work gives nix_chix0r cookies as a peace offering [14:28] some one better give me a beer afterwards [14:28] 10% or higher [14:29] nice lager [14:29] haha [14:29] truzicic (n=truzicic@83-131-231-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [14:29] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] fuck champange [14:29] hang in there, nix_chix0r! [14:29] Action: edman007|work gives nix_chix0r something a bit stronger [14:30] lol [14:30] I think we all wish you a beer [14:30] yeah [14:30] Action: edman007|work makes some 200 proof stuff [14:30] rofl [14:30] after pooping a baby i would imagine you would appreciate a strong pain med like morphine or oxycontin [14:30] for that i would give you a pony [14:30] is anyone familiar with the libertas drivers in the new kernel? [14:31] they can give me a spinal block and some loratabs. morphine makes me itch [14:31] 'pssst doc here's $50 for you if you does it up, i mean way up' [14:31] dose [14:31] spinal block worked well for my wife [14:31] google isn't helping much; It's my understanding those drivers only provide an interface with the wifi card and not actual connectivity? [14:31] hitest, do they give you free refills on the spinal block. [14:31] dive, it works thanks ... other thing .. what's your X type of mouse and what GFX did u choose under xorgconfig ? [14:31] since it's not an iv [14:31] nix_chix0r, its easy to make, take a lot of quick lime, dump vodka on it, and filter it, you will get 200 proof, which is higher than the purest stuff possible through distillation alone [14:31] heh [14:32] DeeeeP, I never touched xorg.conf [14:32] I can look though [14:32] u never entered X under fbsd ? [14:32] i edit my xorg in my sleep:| [14:32] i just threaten X and it works, no need to fool around with configs [14:32] yeah you can only do that so many times before you stop remembering what stuff does and just have it memorized nix_chix0r lol [14:33] DeeeeP, protocol is 'auto' [14:33] let me check [14:33] funny thing is, i can do that. or recompile my kernel but when it comes to say partitioning a hard drive i fail 100% [14:33] and I ver ran xorgconfig or setup [14:34] s/ver/never [14:34] nix_chix0r: you must be autistic ^_^ [14:34] setup doesnt exist [14:34] :o [14:34] dive, can u post your xorg.conf config ? [14:34] can try [14:34] sshing into it atm [14:34] ok :) [14:34] DeeeeP: by chance why are you asking about X.org on FreeBSD in Slackware? [14:35] cause dive have it [14:35] :) [14:35] but ill stop [14:35] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] I have it as well but I m not gonna ask in a linux channel about a bsd considering that /usr/ports/UPDATING has everything you need already [14:36] kitche, im running slackware as host os [14:36] DeeeeP: and your point being your still asking a FreeBSD question [14:36] DeeeeP, http://rafb.net/p/XMaNFx73.html [14:36] kitche, is about a QEMU mouse and gfx driver [14:36] so its linux [14:37] DeeeeP: you could also try ##freebsd. I ran FreeBSD for quite some time, but, I'm back with Slack now. [14:37] yeah , i guess i could also try that [14:37] thanks dive :) [14:37] like I said /usr/ports/UPDATING as everything you need DeeeeP [14:37] np [14:38] but then again at least I am not confusing people in a linux channel asking about another operating system [14:38] kitche, GFX AND MOUSE IS ABOUT QEMU ON SLACKWARE [14:41] DeeeeP, btw keep an eye on slackbuilds.org as qemu 0.10.0 and the latest kqemu have just been submitted [14:42] ok i will soon [14:42] i think i have the latest stable [14:42] dusty__ (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] they have been approved so shouldn't be too long before they show up [14:43] DeeeeP: ah so your running slackware in the qemu then? [14:43] if not then it's a freebsd question [14:43] and 0.10.0 has just been put up like 2 days ago [14:43] kitche, yes i am [14:43] let me check my versions [14:43] well you said slackware was the host hence why I thought you were running FreeBSD in the qemu [14:43] actually his main problem was getting mouse to work in qemu - it's a qemu question [14:44] dive: the issue might be actually in /usr/ports/UPDATING some people had to add certain stuff to their xorg.conf witht he latest xorg [14:45] qemu : 0.9.1 kqemu : kqemu-1.3.0pre11 [14:45] so im outdated [14:45] kitche, no it's a known problem that some os's don't work for mouse unless you specifically pass '-usbdevice mouse' to qemu [14:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:45] dive: hmm never had that issue [14:45] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:45] just the hal issue [14:45] Action: edman007|work just sets qemu to use vnc and that works :) [14:45] which worked by adding AllowEmptyInput to my xorg.conf [14:46] giuppy (n=giuppy@host28-169-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:47] time change crap [14:47] nullboy, [] [14:48] hmm don't think my freebsd auto switched time [14:48] i'm now in PDT instead of PST Sun Mar 8 11:48:47 PDT 2009 [14:48] DeeeeP, pm? [14:50] mine says EDT but I have the same time as my shell so I think it's off either the shell or my system [14:50] yep my system is off [14:50] j0z (n=JESUS@201-66-120-21.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:50] there [14:51] edman007: same error so far ;\ [14:51] dive, no need , thanks [14:52] yer standard ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc [14:52] smoytra, pastebin the last screenful or so [14:52] josemanuel (n=josemanu@253.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:52] DeeeeP, you might also find '-kernel-kqemu' is a useful option - full kernel mode but I think you need to run it as root for that [14:53] dive, im already running that option , without root , need to give some chmod on some file [14:53] DeeeeP: are you using kvm+qemu or the standard qemu? [14:53] i joined late sorry [14:53] standard qemu [14:54] plus kernel acelerator module [14:54] truzicic (n=truzicic@83-131-231-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] nullboy: I saw what you accomplished with ath5k yesterday, and I think I'll wait. I'm having enough trouble with just madwifi here. ;) [14:58] edman007: http://pastebin.com/d47bbd451 [14:59] chopp: yeah man wait, it's still way unstable for me [14:59] chopp: the biggest problem i have with madwifi is that damn stuck beacon bug [14:59] i can't even use madwifi at all [14:59] at least not in AP mode [15:00] nullboy: could you glance at this ip for me, and guess if it will create the bridge I need? I just can't mess with it right now. http://www.linux.com/feature/55617 [15:01] chopp: just make sure you enable the bridging option in hostapd.conf [15:01] nullboy: I was reading about the "stuck beacon" yesterday, but isn't a problem here. [15:01] nullboy: right, ok. [15:02] nullboy: I'll be able to try it a bit later. [15:02] edman007: any suggestion Sir? [15:02] chopp: good luck [15:02] uhhh, you used the script i gave you? why is it running make in some sub directory of /usr/local/? [15:03] nullboy: thank you muchly. 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[15:20] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A75BEF.dip.t-dialin.net) got lost in the net-split. [15:20] juice_ (n=juice@67.48.19.13) got lost in the net-split. [15:20] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-11-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] the intern [15:20] ^-^ [15:20] Nick change: she_dyed -> she_zzz [15:21] tino27 (n=tino27@cpe-24-93-187-187.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org" [15:21] this is wrong on so many level http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1236538035330.jpg [15:23] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:23] heh [15:23] pink gun ftw! [15:24] lol [15:24] sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] thats a girl's gun, boys get blue ones :D [15:25] does it come with a barbie ? [15:25] it should if it doesnt [15:25] heart shapped keychain [15:25] heh [15:25] you take care of your mad dog problem Soul_keeper? [15:25] buy a barbie ,get a pink gun for free! [15:26] wrapped in plastic, its fantastic! [15:26] sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) joined ##slackware. [15:26] lmao [15:26] j0z (n=JESUS@189-11-88-67.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Pig_Pen, not yet, i'm gonna buy some mace [15:27] google for bear repellent [15:27] comes in a big can like spray paint [15:28] yeah that's like 50 bucks [15:28] i'll get the 5 or 10 dollar cheap walmart stuff [15:28] that bear spray, the foam type, works great on dogs. i've used it before [15:30] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A75114.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] you can always just kill the damn mutt, i hate undisciplined pitt bulls that are like that they usually end up killing someone's child or old person, if a dog like that ever attacked me i would slice its head off with a Case brand pocket knife i keep that is sharp enough to shave hair [15:31] i've hit raging dogs with my surfboard when i get attacked on the beach. they are suppose to keep the dogs on leashes at the beaches here [15:38] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A75F95.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] where do you live nullboy? [15:41] he lives over there ----> [15:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host250-174-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:41] i wonder how many miles of coast line there is in all the land in the world [15:41] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-84-66.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:41] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:42] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [15:42] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:43] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75BEF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:44] g'day [15:44] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:46] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:48] salutations NyteOwl [15:49] hi andarius, wassup? [15:49] not much, another day [15:51] Pig_Pen: california [15:51] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.68.236) joined ##slackware. [15:52] jus made some nice wallpaper form a downlaoded image from Nissan's web site :) [15:52] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A75114.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:54] NyteOwl: do you have it online somewhere? [15:54] dartmouth: not at the moment but I could upload it if you want [15:54] sarkoman (n=chatzill@ALille-552-1-57-78.w92-142.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] it's a 1920x1440 of teh 2008 GT-R [15:56] hi NyteOwl [15:57] hi Pig_Pen [15:57] how do i set up slack so it brings my eht0 up? [15:57] at boot time [16:00] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] LnxSlck : netconfig [16:01] other than that? [16:01] is there like a interface file or something? [16:01] what's not working about it? [16:01] i was wondering if there is a file that i can change, a file that has info about the interfaces [16:02] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-84-66.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] LnxSlck : /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [16:02] hi LnxSlck [16:02] LnxSlck: by now you should know where that file is [16:02] thanks [16:02] that was it [16:02] i forgot [16:02] :) [16:03] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.189.141) left irc: "bbl" [16:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Action: LnxSlck cant forget to buy more RAM for his brain [16:04] why was that the recommended way and not using pppoe-setup? just curious [16:05] LnxSlck, it's ok as long as you don't get an OOM killer ;p [16:06] rraindown (n=rraindow@user-54445df5.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Ruthven_ (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-188-67.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] :° [16:06] :) [16:11] ktos (n=ktos@adgj25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Hi all [16:11] evenin [16:12] Tell me please what is difference between slackware built-in imapd daemon and sth like curus or courier? Thank you for help [16:12] curus -> cyrus [16:15] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-18-63-70.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving." [16:17] Ruthven (n=mbutler@70.234.188.67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:17] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [16:18] ktos : uhmm, slackware comes with uw-imapd. you can read about it on its page [16:20] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-161-176.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [16:21] alienBOB, do u talk to patrick ? [16:22] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-161-176.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [16:22] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:23] We all talk to patrick, DeeeeP. [16:23] He lives in our hearts. [16:23] eheh [16:23] tntslack (n=will@adsl56-24.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] i as gonnas ask alienbob to sugest pat to remove gxine from slackware tree :) [16:24] why? [16:24] cause it sucks big time [16:24] ananke: thank you that is what i needed :) in man page of its there is written that it is berkley made so I was completly confused [16:25] DeeeeP, although I never use gxine, there are people that do and prefer it and I would think that linux being about 'choice' would mean that it should be kept in [16:26] although there should be more beer [16:26] Action: Gargantua misses gnome :( [16:26] i prefer totem plugin 1000x more [16:26] :) [16:27] or mplayerplugin [16:27] I prefer mplayer for everything [16:27] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:27] mplayer even plays in framebuffer [16:27] including yoytube flash files [16:28] less times I need to boot X [16:28] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-18-63-70.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] DeeeeP, how do you like freebsd then? [16:29] arrg..I created a bridge in rc.local on my firewall box, and it locked the system. Guess it should have been ath0--br0--eth0, instead of ath0--br0--eth1. :( [16:29] dive, to noob to say something [16:31] I'm liking it a lot so far - I think I would switch if ever slack disappeared [16:31] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:32] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.130.98) left irc: "Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC." [16:32] im used to linux, needed to learn some new stuff on fbsd [16:32] it's not all that different but I found I had to install sudo, vim, and currently building mutt [16:33] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] and make a sudoers file [16:33] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:33] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.50.134) left irc: "Saindo" [16:34] what for ? [16:34] so I can sudo commands [16:34] ktos (n=ktos@adgj25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [16:35] I will need to look at configuring services next - haven't really looked into that [16:35] btw qemu's -redir switch is useful [16:36] i've read about it [16:36] its to port forward from host to guest , right [16:36] eg: -redir tcp:22::22 will redirect ssh to vm [16:37] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:37] so i can redirect vnc also , to have vnc from external ip [16:37] yes very handy - right now I'm sshing to desktop box running qemu freebsd from laptop [16:37] never tried vnc so can't answer that [16:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] I'm not really interested in the gui [16:38] I prefer to run in console and learn about file system. building packages, config services etc [16:39] kde is kde is kde [16:39] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: "KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/" [16:39] I guess you run slack primarily as a server? [16:39] I guess he didn't want the wallpaper [16:40] no I use it on both my boxes - this lappy I run screen with irssi, mutt, elinks, slrn etc [16:40] the desktop is for dev so yeah I need X for quanta etc [16:40] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] but mostly I run in console on lappy [16:40] what DE do you run? [16:41] man can't wait for my money to come buy some stuff [16:41] xfce if I need to [16:41] nice [16:41] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] right now I would say my wm is screen [16:41] great window manager [16:41] good stuff, ran that for a long time. I'm back with KDE now [16:41] 0 irssi 1 finch 2 pish 3 bo 4 elinks 5 rtorrent [16:42] pish and bo are my own efforts [16:42] but you get the idea [16:44] if you compile elinks with spidermonkey isntalled and the youtube.js file installed it opens any youtube movie link as a download button, which downloads the vid and plays it in mplayer framebuffer ;-) [16:45] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] hmm [16:46] FredGeek (i=fred@187.20.74.28) joined ##slackware. [16:47] is it possible to screen a program that's already running? [16:47] the thing is I found when I run a DE all the time I ended up spending most of my time in a term anyway - just seems better for my way of use to you console and boot X for the rare times I need it [16:48] dionysian, not as far as I know [16:48] ok, in that case... brb ;) [16:48] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:48] AcidJello (n=andrew@dhcp-0-13-10-23-f-37.cpe.quickclic.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] anyone know if there is a slack12 package for Net::pcap ? [16:49] im trying to compile Net::pcap but it keeps failing [16:49] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:49] AcidJello, have you tried cpan? [16:50] yes but it keeps failing to compile [16:50] version 0.16 for some reason [16:50] I think that perl module needs to be updated for newer libpcap and tcpdump. Contact its author. [16:50] config runs ok fins libpcap but wont make [16:50] Right. [16:51] i would settle for an older version that would run [16:51] I poked at it back before 12.2 released, and I couldn't get it to build either, even with some hackery. I gave up, primarily because I don't need it and it's not worth the effort for me. [16:51] AcidJello: you should be able to build the tcpdump package from 12.1 and it will likely work. [16:51] tcpdump is there [16:51] This isn't officially a "good idea" but probably you can just "upgrade" to the 12.1 tcpdump package. [16:52] Yeah, I *know* it's there. The problem is that the libpcap api changed in 12.2's version of tcpdump. [16:52] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [16:53] right now i am on the slack ver 12.1 [16:54] Oh, and it still won't build? :/ [16:55] yes [16:55] I have no idea then :/ Consider emailing the author, attached build logs, and CC me. [16:56] i was sortof thinking since version is only at 0.16 the author gave up on it :) [16:56] FredGeek (i=fred@187.20.74.28) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [16:57] i got Netpacket installed ok no problems [16:57] Possibly, but mail him/her anyway :) I'm rworkman@ [16:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:03] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Action: The-Croupier waves everywhere [17:03] give me winning cards , The-Croupier :D [17:03] Action: firebird619 waves to The-Croupier [17:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Action: The-Croupier wonders why do they all want to win..and not have just a good time [17:04] i tell you why ... cause MONEY TALKS [17:04] :D [17:05] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn165.91-127-70.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [17:05] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] well, then you dont need the wining card :p [17:05] talk with your money :p [17:06] i need it , to win money [17:06] but he won't have money unless you give him good cards [17:06] and no , i dont play for peanuts [17:06] dive: i know, but he talks with money...so let him sweat for it ;) [17:06] hahaha [17:06] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.13.34) joined ##slackware. [17:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] how is the slackworld these days [17:08] anything interesting..new happened while ive been moving home? [17:08] something? anything? worth mentioning? [17:09] The-Croupier, not really [17:09] everything works pretty fine [17:09] othermindszine (n=othermin@106.sub-70-192-93.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] yep same here [17:09] here is.... archlinux ? [17:10] othermindszine (n=othermin@51.sub-75-216-213.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] so noone had any wierd requests [17:10] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:10] i had one [17:10] REMOVE GXN [17:11] REMOVE GXINE FROM SLACK TREE [17:11] :D [17:11] DeeeeP, true [17:11] DeeeeP, that's not a "wierd" request ;) [17:11] ehehehe [17:11] why remove gxine [17:11] cause it sucks [17:11] gxine sucks [17:12] well thats not completely true... [17:12] ok ok [17:12] it sucks really bad [17:12] Action: The-Croupier agrees but just wants to see a different opinion [17:12] LnxSlck: thanks thats the one looking for [17:12] dive gave it few minutes ago [17:12] ;) [17:12] let-me copy / paste [17:12] ;) [17:12] DeeeeP, although I never use gxine, there are people that do and prefer it and I would think that linux being about 'choice' would mean that it should be kept in [17:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [17:13] i see [17:14] if someone does removepkg gxine [17:14] there are a lot of people out there that uses gnome [17:14] even so gnome got removed [17:14] no other consequences though right? [17:14] that's not a valid argument [17:14] like mplayer not palying or something like that [17:14] The-Croupier: mplayer will function without xine [17:15] hi all [17:15] :) [17:15] vlc is great [17:15] mplayer is my fav [17:15] mplayer then vlc [17:22] rworkman, any ideas what i should include in the email other then the output from the failed make ? [17:22] tommcd (n=tom@c-68-63-85-178.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] my wireless internet seems slow today [17:23] yahoo refuses to load [17:24] irc is fine though [17:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:24] just port 80 traffic [17:24] truzicic (n=quassel@83-131-231-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:24] MrDusty (n=MrDusty@88-105-91-48.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] truzicic (n=quassel@83-131-231-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] LnxSlck, this is true but including gnome is a lot more involved than including gxine imo [17:27] pirving, too far from your router [17:28] dive, a lot more users "demanding/liking" gnome than gxine [17:28] wahcordian (n=goldfish@97-123-90-45.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] LnxSlck, that isn't the point [17:29] I really need someones help here. I have been googling quite a bit and just can't get my dns to work. [17:29] I can browse by ip no problem. [17:29] wahcordian, have you set you resolv.conf ? [17:29] let me see [17:29] is that in /etc? [17:29] grrr. [17:29] yep [17:29] how can i know if opengl is working with my video card? i have installed the nvidia driver successfully [17:29] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [17:29] zErOaCid, glxinfo [17:29] this all started because iwconfig won't work so I used wpa_supplicant instead. [17:29] zErOaCid, glxgears or something [17:29] and glxgears [17:30] wahcordian, what has iwconfig do with wpa? [17:30] dive, maybe if there where an "official" slackware gnome team, it could be possible to have gnome back [17:30] hmmm glxinfo, unable to open display, how do i enable or make it work ? [17:30] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aclc33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:30] zErOaCid, run it as normal user [17:30] zErOaCid, not root [17:31] ow is [17:31] ic* [17:31] LnxSlck, there are a few gnome options for slackware around [17:31] dive, yes i knoe [17:31] know [17:31] dive, if there where an "official" one i could give it a try [17:31] LnxSlck, I doubt that will ever happen [17:31] dive, i run openbox, but i know a lot of people like gnome [17:31] well dunno but not like;y [17:32] LnxSlck: When I do 'iwlist wlan0 scan' I can see my ssid [17:32] LnxSlck: when I do iwconfig wlan0 essid blah blah blah I get no errors [17:32] LnxSlck: when I type 'wconfig wlan0' I see my ssid but I have 0/100 connectivity. [17:33] wahcordian, what kind of set up you have? router? wireless, lan? [17:33] wahcordian, have you tried runninf wpa_supplicant on cli? [17:33] and dmesg says, "wlan0 the link is not ready", although my wireless led is flashing like it always does when I'm using it. [17:33] encryption? [17:33] wahcordian, maybe your card is not working correctly [17:33] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:33] THEN if I run wpa_supplicant everything always works. (On my WPA connection at work) [17:34] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-205-24.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:34] wahcordian, and you have settings in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf? [17:34] for home or whatever you are trying to connect to [17:34] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.11) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Also, if I run wpa_supplicant, then kill wpa_supplicant. and suddenly I can connect using iwconfig, but I can only browse by IP. I'm about ready to throw this laptop out the freakin window. [17:35] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A74A48.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] This all started when I moved from 12.1 to 12.2 [17:35] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:35] sounds like you need to run dhcpcd [17:35] dive: I have an IP address tho. [17:36] dive: I need to reset dns but I don't know how. [17:36] what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf [17:36] dive: a.org [17:36] or "search a.org" [17:36] you have 'nameserver [ip]'? [17:36] dive: I looked online about this problem and it talked about 'netconfig'. Which I did but I don't know what to put in for hostname so I used a.org [17:37] dive: nope [17:37] dive: why would that change tho? [17:37] well no idea why it changed but you need one in there - usually ip of router [17:37] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) joined ##slackware. [17:38] try entering it manually [17:38] Is it true you cannot have multiple IPs on one interface? [17:38] svip, is not true [17:38] dive: If I change whats entered in /etc/resolv.conf do I need to run anything so that the changes are used? [17:39] just connect to wifi [17:39] dive: also, I'm unclear on what 'named' does. Is it a dns client app or a dns server app? [17:39] ALVAN: Slackware docs says otherwise. [17:39] ha where ? [17:39] no idea what named is [17:39] named is the bind service [17:39] aha [17:39] wahcordian, but you dont need named [17:39] dive: I have been googling on how to reset my dns in slackware and all these freakin' posts are on how to run a dns server. Which is useful information but not for me. [17:40] unless you are hosting sites on your PC [17:40] it is NOT true you can only have one IP on an interface [17:40] wahcordian, you need your nameserver in resolv.conf to translate urls to ips [17:40] okay, so update my /etc/resolv.conf and then ifconfig wlan0 down and up and all around and then reconnect and ask for a new ip? [17:41] try it [17:41] dive: so my machine has it's own name 'server' which is a client to a name sever thats outside of my machine? [17:41] wahcordian, are you using /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1? [17:41] wahcordian, no [17:41] it connects to the nameserver and asks for ips [17:42] dive: let me check, I think I commented out a lot of my rc.inet###'s because of how many problems I had going from 12.1 to 12.2 [17:42] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "interestingly enough we all think we try to do the right thing, even the guy who just killed some one" [17:42] well that won't help [17:43] But it sounds like what I want to do is something like, "nameserver 192.168.24.1" at the beginning of my /etc/resolv.conf and reconnect. [17:43] so I will try that. :P [17:43] svip, what interface ethernet interface ? [17:43] Possibly. [17:43] you might want to read alienBOB's network howto too, always useful [17:44] [17:44] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A75F95.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] what erks me is that wpa_supplicant always works. [17:44] scipi can add ipaliases on ethernet interfaces so i can sue more ip`s on the same interface [17:45] err this was meant for svip, [17:45] and up until recently ,iwconfig would work, but I'd first have to bring down wlan0, load it w/ a bogus ssid and key, bring it back up and then put the proper info in and run dhcpcd or dhclient. [17:45] Well, ALVAN, some one just asked me in another channel. [17:45] cjae (n=cjae@64-110-251-246.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Apparently, he went to Debian instead. [17:47] wahcordian: whi not use wicd? [17:47] wahcordian, read this: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [17:47] d/whi/why/ [17:47] root__ (n=nukedclx@cpb122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] andarius seems to say only things just to say them .. troll but never mind ? [17:48] svip, where you read that . .as you said it is in the slackware docs [17:48] He said he did. [17:48] I think he's just a goof. [17:49] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [17:49] YESSS1!!!! GREAT SUCCESS!! [17:49] :P [17:49] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.91.105) joined ##slackware. [17:49] lool [17:50] so it was a resolv.conf problem? [17:50] she_zzz (n=jazze17@adsl-2-215-57.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] okay now I can actually start doing my work! Thanks a lo. [17:50] LnxSlck: it was, but I'm still not happy with this whole wpa_supplicant vs iwconfig business. [17:50] alienBOB, just found a problem on your wiki perhaps - when I hit the 'Alien's Wiki (Search)' link elinks pops up a window asking which program to open with - What would you like to do with the file 'opensearch.php' (type: application/opensearchdescription+xml)? - sounds like a mime problem [17:50] both should work, and I don't like using wpa_supplicant. There's something seriously wrong here. But I can atleast get my work done today. [17:50] iwconfig is for setting up wireless interfaces [17:50] wpa is an ecryption protocol [17:51] LnxSlck: right, but wpa_supplicant apparently will connect you to a wep / open ssid as well. and the fact that I cannot connect to my wep enable hotspot at home using iwconfig is unacceptable. [17:52] yep [17:52] some configuration issue [17:52] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [17:52] maybe [17:52] wahcordian, from what you said wpa_supplicant was working fine in the first place [17:52] dive: it was, I think when I ran netconfig I messed up my dns. [17:52] wahcordian, sounds like something messed up [17:53] dive: But whats strange is if I run dmesg after an 'ifconfig wlan0 up' I get the wlan0 link not ready msg. [17:53] hmm [17:53] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-116-86.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [17:53] but if I run dmesg after a wpa_supplicant -cblah/blah.conf I get something like "wlan0 link now ready" [17:54] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A773EE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] in 12.1 I used the iwl4965 kernel module, now It's runing iwlcore and iwlkitchensink and about 2 others by default. [17:55] I tried running 'modprobe iwl4965' and tho I got not errors. lsmod shows no iwl4965 running [17:55] all wpa_supplicant does is connect using wpa password to the essid - everything else like dns etc is done in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [17:56] but ANYWAY, thanks _a_lot_ for the help. I'll go buy a 6 pack and drink to your good fortune... then get back to work! [17:56] np [17:56] dive: I know... this makes no sense. [17:56] (I'm on my mom's ubuntu machine typing this btw... whatever... I don't like the color orange that much) [17:57] lol :) [17:57] /close [17:57] wahcordian (n=goldfish@97-123-90-45.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [17:57] yeah but at least you mom is using linux of some sort :) [17:58] mommys using linux is the future :D [17:58] mine will use too :D [17:58] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] girls using linux is better [17:58] right ^ [17:59] othermindszine (n=othermin@51.sub-75-216-213.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:59] but not if they're running ubuntu -_- [17:59] LnxSlck, but nevermind , just keep watching Alt_of_Ctrl links :> [17:59] no , ubuntu is unhot [17:59] lol [18:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhPKCbd00w this is cool, its the style my dad played on the guitar when i was just a kid [18:00] DeeeeP, #ubuntu-woman is a baaaaad place [18:01] a girl using linux must be like this > http://photos2.hi5.com/0012/212/401/zg.P8E212401-02.jpg [18:01] :) [18:02] Pig_Pen: hey thats great, I like it. [18:03] me too, brings back some old memories [18:03] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [18:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [18:05] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.83) joined ##slackware. [18:05] DeeeeP: she looks quite dumb, actually. [18:06] lol [18:06] evening guys [18:06] evening nachox. how are you? [18:06] hi nachox [18:07] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:07] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A74A48.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:09] Hmm [18:09] How come when I try exec("wget ..." in php I get "sh: /wget: No such file or directory"? [18:09] Although wget works for any user. [18:09] Is it because the php user can't run executables or something? [18:09] cause PHP's PATH isn't set? [18:09] How can I set it? [18:09] try exec("/usr/bin/wget ...") instead, see if that plays nice [18:09] k [18:09] just use the full path [18:10] I dunno specifically how to set the path in PHP, it'll be one of those variables you can set in php.ini though [18:10] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] Woohoo! [18:10] Slackware ownage. [18:11] Gargantua, php might be configured to run "cajed" that is be able to run only binaries in a given directory [18:11] Shingoshi: /wget: No such file or directory [18:11] Damn [18:11] Oops, that wasn't directed at Shingoshi. [18:11] show us yout php.ini [18:11] ok [18:11] in pastebin please [18:11] Haha of course. [18:11] Here I am thinking you wanted me to paste the entire file here [18:11] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-181-4.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] php.ini is huge. [18:12] php is a kludge. [18:12] also there's "php safe mode" that might be turned on... not sure how that interacts with the PATH [18:13] HelplessNewbie (n=Helpless@c-98-204-196-216.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] anyone help here.. i have created an app with lib, src and include folders [18:13] and now i'm making a makefile -- everything compiles wonderfully [18:14] but when it comes to running one executable which relies on a library [18:14] i get [18:14] cannot execute binary file? [18:14] thumbs, just like all configuration files. [18:14] ./server: error while loading shared libraries: libfirewall.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [18:14] its in ../lib [18:14] its compiles [18:14] brixton: this is not a programmer's channel [18:14] brixton: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../lib ./server [18:15] Urchlay - thought there'd be another way :< [18:15] what? a lot of Slackware people are programmers [18:15] like me. [18:15] me_ (n=me_@92.24.49.36) joined ##slackware. [18:15] that's why i asked.. sorry if it's inappropriate [18:15] but i figured this population is in the know :-) [18:15] brixton: sure. Install your library in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, run ldconfig... [18:15] Urchlay -> i knew i could do this [18:15] brixton, gcc has options to tell it where to find libraries [18:15] but i do not have perms on the machine [18:15] hold on [18:15] brixton: this is an app you're developing? [18:15] I did not say you are not allowed to ask - I implied that you may not get an answer here [18:15] nachox -- that sounds like the best option [18:16] Urchlay yes [18:16] alienBOB: thanks for the concern [18:16] you might consider building the library statically [18:16] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A76803.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] .. :-) [18:16] you dont want that either, it makes patching a living hell [18:17] it will never be patched -- if it works for now, that will do for me :-) [18:17] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] it's fine for testing purposes though [18:17] which is what I consider this (running app out of its build directory) [18:18] heh. Never say never... [18:18] sorry about that guys [18:18] hm, link with -Wl,rpath I think [18:18] http://rafb.net/p/JPfVjA17.html [18:18] here's my php.ini [18:19] Thanks for the help Urchlay [18:19] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:19] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] yf48 (n=yf48@c-98-204-196-216.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Gargantu: don't show it to us, grep it yourself... [18:20] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:20] well at least I have to say with the help of some people here I was able to boot a home brewed os. [18:20] yf48 (n=yf48@c-98-204-196-216.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:20] and other help. [18:20] [04:09:24] show us yout php.ini [18:20] lol [18:20] what exactly should I edit? [18:20] ah, OK, forget I said that then [18:21] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [18:21] try looking up the docs for the PHP exec() function, it might tell you how the shell's path gets set [18:21] Regardless of the path, even the full path got me the same error message. [18:22] oh [18:22] safe mode is on [18:22] oh [18:22] I thought it was funny when the guy said, "You can't hack me! I'm in safe mode!" [18:22] heh [18:23] you know what happened.. after that [18:23] Gargantua, copy the wget somewhere in your path, and set safe_mode_exec_dir to that path [18:23] Can't I just use the full path? [18:23] Action: Gargantua sets safe mode off [18:23] no [18:23] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-123-90-45.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] not even if I turn off safe mode? [18:24] Gargantua, btw, that is not php 6, right? [18:24] I was just at the liquor store and there was this guy standing outside the front door. [18:24] he asked me to buy him a six pack and I said no. [18:24] yes, turning off safe mode works [18:24] nope, 5.2.6 [18:24] When I came back up a copy car rolled up and he just walked up to it and got in. [18:24] lol [18:24] php 6? is that out already? [18:24] wahcordian|Work: what was he, underage? [18:24] what slackytude2 said. [18:24] *cop car [18:25] Urchlay, He didn't look it to me. He looked young, but I thought he was atleast 20. [18:25] hm, maybe he was a cop? trying to entrap people into buying beer for his underage ass? [18:25] i have no idea whether it's out or not, but safe mode does not work in php6 [18:25] They were trying to entrap people. [18:25] why can't they go catch some crack dealers, or embezzling CEOs? [18:26] Urchlay, I live in albuquerque, we have a lot of crime. I think it's funny that the cops spend their time trying to catch people buying beer for under age kids... who will get beer one way or another. [18:26] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [18:26] It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for right? [18:26] right [18:26] it's only beer anyway. Who really gives a damn? [18:26] maybe they're trying to get the guys that take the money bu don'rt buy the beer :) [18:26] nothing worse than efficent governemt [18:27] Urchlay: maybe the parents of the unmderage kid that gets drunk and then gets dead? [18:27] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] we need a Bureau of Sabotage to throw a monkeywrench into the wheels of government, whenever they start to grind the little people... [18:27] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Urchlay, because embezling CEO's pull a lot of water in tax districts. Why would you want to incarcerate the people who pay more taxes. :P [18:27] NyteOwl: well they should have educated their kid not to go and do that crap... [18:27] wahcordian|Work: send the police a list of laws they should enforce and ones they should not. [18:27] uh huh [18:28] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-161-176.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [18:28] well, if the governemt isnt parenting kids, who is? [18:28] jrMass (n=Mass@adsl-71-134-228-138.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Anyway, they would have been more successful trying to catch people at a walgreens or a gas station than on the front step of a liquor store... maybe they are targeting moron criminals. [18:28] targeting stupid criminals seems like a bad strategy [18:28] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] in the long term, you end up breeding a smarter pool of criminals... [18:29] when I was in high school there was a drive through liquor store that would sell beer to us, they never seemed to get caught, I always wondered why they didn't [18:29] most of the time it's the stupid ones that get caught anyway [18:29] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [18:30] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p57A773EE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:30] XGizzmo, or even better, have your local community collectively grab their politicians by the balls and twist their arm to pass laws that make sense and repeal those that don't. [18:30] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Action: wahcordian|Work thinks that if all lobbiests and marketers and PR people committed suicide, the world would be a better place. [18:31] anyone tried out rlworkman's xfce 4.6.0 update? How is it? [18:31] who do you thing pressured them to make the stupid laws in the first place. [18:32] i would like to bind my "windows" key to a command in KDE. currently the key is a modifier only so i can bind to Win+Space but not just Win. can anybody help me set the windows key to just a key and not a modifier? [18:32] XGizzmo, Mchavelli wrote that if your aim is to conquer a republic, you have to keep the people divided. [18:33] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:33] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:33] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-161-176.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [18:33] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] XGizzmo, thats why gay marriage and abortion are the decisive factors of abortion. One politician is for or against, one of them gets elected... but neither candidate feels it's necessary to abolish the federal reserve... huh [18:34] *decisive factors of election. :P [18:34] not abortion. [18:34] hahaha [18:34] The way you conquer a republic is to let the people know they can voter them self money/services. [18:34] nachox, thanks, it works now. [18:34] XGizzmo_: Bread and circuses [18:34] LnxSlck (n=bruno@bl10-94-228.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [18:35] its weired how a completly sane and rational slackware conversation gets twisted into something political [18:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:35] eh? were we having a sane/rational conversation before? I hadn't noticed :) [18:36] me_ (n=me_@92.24.49.36) left irc: "me_em" [18:36] XGizzmo, or convince them that they need the government to survive. Tax the middle class until there is none left because it's easier to be a parasite than it is to pay for everyone else. [18:36] Im back [18:36] :) [18:36] sorta butterfly effect,slackytude [18:36] HelplessNewbie (n=Helpless@c-98-204-196-216.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:36] well, its was about php. not sure if thats considered sane and rational [18:37] ugh, yeah [18:37] okay end of rant. [18:37] Gargantua, safe mode is a good idea [18:37] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.91.105) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] slackytude, I'm learning C#.net / ASP right now in school... it's amazing how point and click everything is, and how little you learn about whats really going on. Do you think PHP can compete w/ that sort of development? [18:38] I kinda liked VS 2005 + .Net [18:38] slackytude, "that" meaning, the speed with which visual studio can just pump pages out. [18:38] and php can't compete with that. not the same area really. [18:38] F# ! :D [18:39] yo Camarade_Tux. hows your head? [18:39] the pointy clicky stuff is for the UI development right? [18:39] in VS [18:39] slackytude, alright now ;p [18:39] slackytude, it's amazing and at the same time depressing. My teacher tells me I should have been born 10 years earlier because I enjoy writing actual code. [18:39] I didn't sleep much and I guess I still had some alcohol in my blood when I woke up [18:40] Gargantu (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] nooper, yes and then some. You can do a significant amount without typing any of your own code... it feels like your cheating because you don't really know how anything works unless you want to delve. [18:40] wahcordian|Work, eh, point and click goes only so far [18:40] and it jus hurt a very very little bit this morning [18:40] nooper, most of the hand code is written for event handlers. [18:41] ah [18:41] wahcordian|Work, we are a MS shop with .NET + MSSQL and we'll be porting everything to mono in a while [18:41] lots of typing ^-^ [18:41] ugggh .NET + MSSQL [18:41] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:41] nooper, it's ridiculous really. making a datagrid view, importing a database and then associating it w/ the gridview and then there's LINQ. [18:41] aceofspades19: having a bad day? [18:42] aceofspades19, .Net + LINQ [18:42] ohh. [18:42] slackytude: I pity you. [18:42] thumbs, not my work [18:42] heh [18:42] Im still writing a new customer managment software [18:42] in python and qt ^-^ [18:42] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] okay back to work [18:43] Action: wahcordian|Work away [18:43] I find IDEs like VS make me work slower because I have to find the option buried in hundreds of icons and menu options to do anything [18:43] cos the old .NET coded sucked badly [18:43] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gawd, Ive never seen so much crap [18:43] i find the intergrated debuggers very convenient [18:44] but just to sum up the jist of our conversation. Cops have better shit to do and VS 2008 makes things so easy that a half wit could write a database driven website. [18:44] fAu (i=1000@217.202.203.182) left irc: "42" [18:44] wahcordian|Work, if they can pay for it [18:45] and if they dont need something fancy [18:45] quit brb [18:45] wahcordian|Work: and then the website gets owned by a sql injection [18:45] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [18:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [18:45] Action: wahcordian|Work goes and rethinks his major... maybe chemistry and physics. [18:45] aceofspades19, now THAT is what I like to see!! [18:45] ALVAN (n=uyjkgh@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:45] My VM install is stuck at gutenprint (20 min), any idea ? maybe it needs time to unpack or FAIL -_- [18:46] mohaa, gutenprint takes a while [18:46] mohaa, can you open a second terminal? [18:46] yes [18:46] gutenprint can be awfully slow [18:46] haha I run virtualbox w/ windows xp for VS 2008 and XCOM... thats it. [18:46] slackboy, terminal opened [18:47] XCOM rockz [18:47] and I've spent a lot more time on XCom this weekend then on VS. [18:47] wahcordian|Work, which part? [18:47] mohaa, do a ps aux to see what its doing [18:47] slackboy, I've always preferred FPS... but I can say XCom is the best freakin video game ever made and anybody who thinks otherwise is stupid. [18:47] lol [18:47] UFO Defense. [18:47] OG [18:47] thats the third? [18:48] slackytude, I'm pretty sure it's the first. [18:48] oy, right, good one [18:48] wahcordian|Work: XCOM UFO is the best game ever. [18:48] I'm real big on mario kart DS also... only games I play now adays. [18:48] altho I like the underwater one best [18:48] wahcordian|Work: I played *years* [18:48] smoytra (n=smotra@77.42.228.103) left ##slackware. [18:48] the new ones are fun too [18:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] wahcordian|Work: I don't have time for it anymore, but I was truly addicted. [18:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:49] slackytude, I have the disk that comes w/ ufo defense, underwater-blahblahblah, and whatever anihilation or whatever the city one is called. I only have played UFO defense tho. [18:49] the city one is crap [18:49] thumbs, very time consuming for sure. [18:49] the underwater one rockz [18:50] mariokart DS is great tho... it's my bathroom reading :P [18:50] wahcordian|Work: I almost cried when one of the guys died. [18:50] ew [18:50] potty ds [18:50] wahcordian|Work: I had all the flying suits [18:50] slackytude, the QEMU process still there, listed at least [18:50] mario kart 64 was the best [18:50] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] thumbs, hahaha I still save after every turn and reload the game if somebody gets killed. haha I'm a poser. [18:51] heh, yeah, I never let one die either [18:51] wahcordian|Work: likewise [18:51] .. [18:51] thats cheating [18:51] mine had all their skills maxed out in the end. [18:51] (without a trainer) [18:51] slackytude, being able to save at anypoint is too tempting. it brings out the lame-o in us all. [18:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.11) left irc: [18:52] have you guys played the new stuff? [18:52] UFO: Aftermath ? UFO: Aftershock ? UFO: Afterlight [18:52] new games? They suck. [18:52] oh. [18:52] except bhodgins, apparently he's a bad ass. :P [18:52] its not as good as the original but still better than anything else [18:52] am not [18:52] I am sure I've played aftermath. very hard. [18:53] you know, the only improvement XComp really needs is the initial setup when you start a battle. loading up your characters w/ equipment properly took lots of time and you couldn't see their stats. [18:53] I played Afterlight, very good [18:53] So you could give the weakest guy a rocket launcher and he'd have like 2 time units every turn which sucks. [18:53] aside from that nothing should be changed. the graphics, nothing. [18:54] okay I really need to get to work tho. [18:54] lol [18:54] ok [18:54] Action: wahcordian|Work is seriously away now. seriously... [18:54] I still fire those games up on occasion [18:55] need to buy the new ones [18:55] j3r3 (n=j3r3@adsl-75-36-138-72.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Nick change: renew_01 -> renew [18:56] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:56] rraindown (n=rraindow@user-54445df5.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:57] anyway, gotta go [18:57] time to sleep [18:57] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76803.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "sleep" [18:57] Camarade_Tux, what did you mean by "gutenprint can be awfully slow" ? [18:57] TommyBresbo (n=dan@65.98.0.130) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Curt sighed in frustration. He was miles away from home and [18:58] conceptually even further away from his goals. Attending the school of [18:58] Biological Sciences at the Mayo Research Institute in Rochester had been [18:58] a great opportunity ... and doing it at age 16 was an even greater honor. [18:58] leave [18:58] The sandy-haired youth had been so bored with typical schooling, it had [18:58] even started to bring down his impressive G.P.A. back home in Montana. [18:58] !ops [18:58] It had been his parents and counselors who decided that early college [18:58] placement would be the appropriate setting for his studies. [18:58] Not that he felt that they were wrong ... he'd learned so much [18:58] during the past six months that he felt certain he'd gain his [18:58] undergraduate degree inside of three more years. The only problem wathat [18:58] he missed the familiar faces and comforts of home. [18:58] Leaning back in his dorm-standard chair, Curt sighed and turned [18:58] down the heat on the amino compound he'd been working on and ran his [18:58] fingers through his hair. It wasn't as if he didn't have anyone to [18:58] talk to; he called home every Sunday and even chatted with a couple of [18:58] the guys from BioChem after class on Tuesday and Thursday. He even had [18:58] met Christa... She was the type of girlfriend who almost made him feel [18:58] welcome and ... normal. [18:58] But being so far from home for the first time made him lonely. It [18:58] didn't matter how much he liked the studies or learning; he still missed [18:58] stfu [18:58] the familiar surroundings of home. Oh, a couple of times, he'd tried to [18:58] make his new home feel more like Montana, but Minnesota wasn't really [18:58] his cup of tea. He needed a confidant; someone to hold hands with and [18:58] just feel cared for. Christa filled that category, but any relationship [18:59] with her was probably predestined for failure. [18:59] It wasn't her fault; certainly not! But, like at home, Curt had [18:59] serious misgivings about himself. He wasn't really bad-looking; actually, [18:59] he would probably be considered handsome if he ever really concentrated [18:59] on his hair and clothes; but he was ... inadequate ... in other areas. [18:59] Three areas to be precise: His height, his penis and his balls. [18:59] All of them were under-developed to an extreme degree. Curt only [18:59] stood about 5'5" and really had to reach to get to the high shelves in [18:59] the dorm closet. All his life, he'd been too small to really get by as [18:59] easily as his friends who were easily half a foot taller than he was. [18:59] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:59] It had been a constant source of humiliation and embarrassment for him [18:59] over the years. But even more so was his genitalia. He'd only had sex [18:59] twice in high school and each time had ended the same way. The girls [18:59] had been kind, but he'd gained the reputation around school as being [18:59] "Curt: The Tiny Weenie Wonder". [18:59] TommyBresbo, what the hell? [18:59] Christa was no different. She treated Curt like he suspected [18:59] she'd treat anyone else, but that still couldn't conceal her [18:59] disappointment. When the two'd had sex a week ago and she acted like she [18:59] uhmm, ban, then ask questions [18:59] TommyBresbo kicked from ##slackware by nachox: nachox [18:59] porn spam [18:59] what took ya so long? :P [19:00] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] ananke, :) [19:01] mohaa, awfully slow to install [19:01] sarkoman (n=chatzill@ALille-552-1-57-78.w92-142.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]" [19:02] hello, i remember seeing packages for kde 4.2 in /testing, has is been moved? was it somewhere else? [19:02] he is banned from our channel now. [19:02] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.13.34) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] now i'll never know how curt's story ends, thank you [19:02] blkdg: only in slackware-current [19:03] thank you [19:03] just kidding [19:03] I Was about to ban you to the same dark place josemanuel [19:03] yeah, i supposed so, that's why i reacted quickly [19:03] just kidding [19:03] I thought we had an anti-flood bot? [19:03] thanks for not banning me [19:04] StevenR: he was under the thresh hold [19:04] josemanuel: he gets seix different STD's goes to hollywood, becoems a movies star, dies broke and drunk ina $20 motel room [19:04] nullboy: *grumble* [19:04] eep. 11pm. [19:04] must sleep. [19:04] how many people running slack mount /usr in read/only ? [19:05] 05:30 is so much fun when it comes round. [19:05] lol [19:06] or does everyone leave /usr mounted r/w so it is wide open to anything running as root to modify it? [19:06] Skaperen: I've mounted /usr read-only before [19:06] Urchlay: but not regularly? [19:07] Skaperen : generally, most people don't bother with ro /usr [19:07] Skaperen: not on desktop/laptop type machines. [19:08] thanks again [19:08] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [19:08] I used to mount /usr readonly on servers that were live on the public internet [19:08] but I don't do that for a living any more, so *shrug* [19:08] ananke: I'm wanting to hook up with people that do, or want to, whether servers/desktops/laptops, to get ideas on what they want out of it ... I'm redesigning my strategies on doing the system init to set it up and want to make it more generally usable [19:08] Skaperen : the idea behind it is simple: it's another layer of security [19:09] bearing in mind, anything that's got local root can just remount read/write :) [19:09] Urchlay : yep [19:09] I know that much ... I do it regularly already now ... I'm just doing a redesign [19:09] security is like an onion [19:09] except on some operating systems, such as solaris, once you mount something rw, you can't remount it ro [19:09] so you'd be able to tell [19:09] has lots of layers, and once you get past the first layer, it makes you cry :) [19:10] Skaperen : if you know it, then why ask? [19:10] Urchlay: true ... but it avoid the effects of an average lame rootkit, as well as fatfinger typing by the admin [19:10] oh, I don't say it's useless... I used to do it on production servers, and probably will again one day [19:10] ananke: try to understand what I'm asking for ... to get feedback/input from others so I can include their ideas/needs in the redesign I'm doing [19:10] i don't bother with it on production servers. too much hassle [19:11] Skaperen: for what, some sort of slackware hardening script? [19:11] ro /usr makes it painful to patch [19:11] nachox : precisely my reason for not doing it [19:11] ananke: if I made it less of a hassle, maybe you'd like to do it? [19:11] Skaperen : unlikely. [19:11] in solaris i'd just use zones, in linux i give a damn :) [19:11] nachox : i think you meant to say 'i don't give a damn' :) [19:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] ops :) [19:12] nachox: true ... remount r/w, to {install,upgrade}pkg as needed, remount r/o [19:12] used to mount /tmp as noexec, too [19:13] only stops the lame rootkits/exploits, but that's most of them [19:13] I still mount /tmp as noexec and nodev, and it's a tmpfs [19:13] Skaperen : uhmm, you can't remount it back as r/o [19:13] oh, right, nodev also [19:13] try it. [19:13] ananke: I do remount it back as r/o [19:13] Skaperen : i don't believe you [19:13] nor do I [19:13] ananke: done so many times [19:13] heh, I don't even have anything that has /usr as a separate partition any more, or I'd try it... [19:14] I know it *used to* be possible to remount it r/o [19:14] well /tmp needs to be rw [19:14] Skaperen : i've never seen anybody be able to do it [19:14] not /tmp as r/o ... /usr [19:14] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-184-183.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] a readonly /tmp would be pretty useless anyway... [19:15] Urchlay: yeah ... but wasn't sure if I had replied to the wrong thing [19:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:15] an ro /usr only makes sense in nfs booted machines imho for the rest of the stuff it's a maintenance nightmare [19:15] I found out some distro or another (probably redhat) wouldn't deal well with /var being mounted noexec [19:16] after I'm done installing, I remount /opt and /usr back to r/o ... of course there is a catch ... if a deleted file is still mapped in a running program, that program needs to be restarted before you can remout r/o [19:17] dadexter1laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Skaperen : exactly [19:17] dadexter_laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] maybe I should make patches for pkg tools to detect the r/o and ask "remount r/w or cancel?" [19:17] Skaperen: so what is your project? a script or something that does the r/o /usr thing? [19:17] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] Urchlay: an initramfs image with a script/program [19:18] which does...? [19:18] Urchlay: it's currently a program run as PID 1 from disk ... the redesign will shift it to initramfs [19:18] an init replacement? [19:19] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] you're telling us how parts of this software work, but not what the goal is :) [19:19] Urchlay: currently it sets up all the mounts ... there are some bind mounts, too ... like /opt and /usr are the same partition, but are different subdirs within it (instead of a symlink from one to the other) [19:19] a daemon, or does it exec /sbin/init when it's done? [19:20] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [19:20] ananke: goals include security against mistakes, e.g. hardening a bit ... also things like making / be tmpfs instead of a hard drive (makes shutdown smoother in drive lockup conditions) [19:20] it runs /sbin/init when it is done [19:20] actually tries a few paths exactly as the kernel already does [19:20] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [19:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [19:21] the redesign will also support slamd64 ... even coexisting with slack on the same partitions [19:21] Skaperen, it also ignores all the signals init does? [19:22] so you install this as a slackware package, then on the next boot you're running it? [19:22] nachox: haven't needed to worry about that ... init does what it needs to do when it runs [19:22] so init replaces that program after it is done, right? [19:23] Urchlay: I wish it would be that simple ... it will require structuring the partitions around ... and telling it what they are supposed to be like [19:23] nachox: yup ... init will run in PID 1 ... calls execve() [19:24] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-428457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:24] nachox: at the point in time when it execs init, nothing else will be running, so what init sees is it will be the starter of all process just as it expects to be ... but several mount points will already be mounted [19:25] I suppose /etc/rc.d/rc.S and rc.M will need to be tweaked some, in that case... [19:25] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] right now I have it hard coded for my preferrred filesystem structure ... I'm going to try to generalize it so it will read a config file that is included in the initramfs image, so it doesn't have to be recompiled for a different layout [19:26] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Urchlay: noauto in fstab should deal with that in most cases [19:26] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] I'm also going to be setting up a multi-root layout in the redesign ... separate roots running in parallel (if kernel is 64-bit) for slack, slamd64, and combo/multilib [19:28] jholt__ (n=jholt@72.240.46.138) joined ##slackware. [19:29] i'm liking that less and less by the second [19:29] nachox: what parts do you dislike? I'd like to know ... I can make each kind of thing optional [19:29] jholt_ (n=jholt@72.240.46.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:29] ehh, what, so 32-bit processes would see a completely different /bin, /etc, /lib and all? [19:29] that sounds more confusing than useful [19:30] Urchlay: sure, depending on which root you run them in [19:30] what advantage does that offer over installing 32-bit slackware in a chroot, on a slamd64 box? [19:30] Urchlay: you could run them in the pure 32 bit root and that's all they would see [19:30] Skaperen, replacing init seems nasty, hacking 32/64bit compatibility even worse [19:31] she_zzz (n=jazze17@adsl-149-108-237.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] Urchlay: better regression testing of software in pure-32, pure-64, multilib, and mixed environments ... useful for software developers [19:31] but you can already do that with chroots... and they're easy to set up [19:31] nachox: only one init would be run in the primary root ... secondary roots would not have an init [19:32] secondary roots? [19:32] Urchlay: they would be chroots ... but ready to run daemons in if desired [19:32] ah [19:32] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [19:32] nachox: a secondary root is an additional root tree ready to chroot into, for whatever purpose [19:33] for some reason.. wail wah cordian popped in my head. [19:33] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] Urchlay: init scripts could run chroot to start daemons in another root, if desired [19:34] Skaperen, it seems like you're trying to build a freebsd jail or solaris zone the wrong way [19:34] nachox: the roots are not for the purpose of jailing ... instead of the purpose of being able to test things in different environments [19:35] if you want to run things in different environments, use virtual machines, anything less is not fullfilling it's purpose [19:35] BOFH__ (n=berserk@79.32.84.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:35] nachox: but with long term testing, such as you might want to run apache in 64-bit for a few weeks to shake out bugs in some modules or such [19:36] nachox: you could run one copy of apache in 32 bit and another in 64 bit while each sees the "world" as pure-32 or pure-64 to be sure the modules work in those environments [19:36] nachox: it's not something everyone would want to do ... I'm just looking around for the few people that would [19:37] nachox: virtual machines that are cross arch don't run as efficiently ... and they can't start as easily at bootup [19:38] nachox: also virtual machines need separate filesystems ... chroots can share filesystems [19:39] anyway ... no one around right now interested in doing any of this enough to provide feedback on what features they'd like to see in it? [19:40] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:43] chroots dont share filesystems... [19:43] well, not structures [19:43] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:45] rworkman: I tried out your 4.6.0 update of xfce and it's sweet. After the install, the icons were gone. It just needed some minor adjustments, no biggy. Thanks for sharing your package =) [19:46] jrMass: that happens (missing icons) because the Rodent icon theme no longer ships with 4.6.0 [19:47] alienBOB: i see [19:47] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] btw, did anyone enjoy the Rodent icon theme ? [19:49] I did notice one thing tho, when trying to resize "xfce settings manager" window, it's very slow and eats a lot of cpu. I'll have to report that to xfce devs, must be a bug or something :\ [19:50] jrMass: I have rworkman's xfce 4.6 package installed as well and I don't experience that issue. [19:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:04] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] does anyone knows some tutorial i can read for no-ip DUC + slackware? [20:08] yay iphone [20:08] ew [20:08] pupit: no-ip.org? [20:08] josemanuel (n=josemanu@253.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:08] spook_: yes [20:08] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [20:08] pupit: use afraid.org [20:09] jrMass (n=Mass@adsl-71-134-228-138.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware ("peace..."). [20:09] spook_: its better? [20:09] you can wget a special page to update the record if you have a dynamic ip [20:09] why not make a perl script that just logs into your registrar if you dnt have an connectable dns..? [20:09] :D [20:09] no-ip you have to use a shittily written application. [20:09] like a godaddy perl script [20:10] also, godaddy domains are very cheap. then you use afraid.org to manage the dns. [20:10] its what i did. [20:10] spook_: no domains [20:10] spooksoftware.com is mine. dns handled by afraid.org [20:10] just to set it up [20:11] pupit: you can use any domain that people are sharing on afraid.org [20:11] spook_: thanks for advice :) [20:11] http://freedns.afraid.org/domain/registry/ [20:11] you can have a subdomain off any of those. [20:12] it.cx :) [20:12] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:12] ;) [20:12] thanks [20:13] they do about 20-30 million queries a day [20:14] up to as many as 170 mil [20:14] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] lololol. i successfully signed up with vodafone for my iphone [20:16] ....with the email address fuckyouvodafone@spooksoftware.com [20:17] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:18] hahha [20:19] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:22] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-229-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:23] hmm what CLI email client is there? [20:23] mutt [20:23] ok ty :) [20:23] and of course emacs [20:24] Hi for everbody! [20:24] pine/alpine [20:24] elm [20:24] ^% nachox for emacs [20:25] heheh [20:25] er ^5 [20:25] well i want to add my google account to one [20:25] what is a better for 3d opengl software, ati proprietary, or opensource radeon driver?? [20:25] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] Rodrigo_Lopes: ati prop i guess, i cant do anything without them :S got a mobility [20:26] madbear: worth reading as a heads up if you're going to set Gmail up on Linux - http://www.milner.ca/article/when-e-mail-standards-are-not [20:27] nachox: my new wallpaper ... http://www.nyteowl.ca/2008-gtr.png [20:27] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.50.134) joined ##slackware. [20:28] proprietary?? are you sure?? [20:28] NyteOwl: thanks ! [20:28] Rodrigo_Lopes: yeah i couldnt do anything without, with a mobility card that is [20:28] np [20:28] like playing teeworld hehe [20:29] NyteOwl, damn cool [20:29] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] nachox: the Canadian retail price is a bit frightening though :) [20:30] i can only guess it has more than 5 zeroes [20:30] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-116-86.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [20:30] nachox: not quite, almost $90k [20:30] risperidon (n=dimorf@189.77.57.103) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:30] it's still a lot of cash :) [20:30] plus delivery, tax,licence, insurance, secure garage ... [20:31] anda beater to drive in the deep winter :) [20:32] nachox: you know thunderbird has this config for gmail [20:32] soiguess that they follow atleast some standards now [20:33] yes, i do [20:33] more so for IMAP. their POP3 still sucks [20:33] gotta run for a bit, brb [20:33] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:38] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[21:48] secondlife is a virtual reality space for those who don't want to play in real life heh [21:48] wine in windows? [21:49] IntangibleLiquid, sorry .. in wine in *Linux [21:49] Rodrigo_Lopes, they've rolled out a beta version for linux that runs right in the untarred directory [21:49] Rodrigo_Lopes, try #winehq [21:49] Rodrigo_Lopes, just download the Secondlife.a.b.c.bz2, unpackage it and run [21:50] if I understood you correctly, you're running 2ndlife native? [21:50] danc3, if you don't even know these stuffs, how can you help me? :( the driver is i915 [21:50] my pc is very slow... rum better in windows. I think... [21:50] Rodrigo_Lopes, http://appdb.winehq.org/ [21:50] theoffset, i'm running the linux beta version [21:50] IntangibleLiquid: you're right... I can't help you [21:51] Rodrigo_Lopes, how slow? [21:51] do you have DRI working? (try glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" ) [21:51] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:51] wiegraf77_ (n=wiegraf7@201-92-229-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:52] Intel aren't known for their stunning graphics performance [21:52] direct rendering: Yes [21:52] theoffset, yup [21:52] Nick change: wiegraf77_ -> Rodrigotr_LOPes [21:52] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [21:53] superGear, I see.. interesting.. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2657 [21:53] weird though, the Windows version supports intel 945, but the linux one doesn't. And it requires OpenGL [21:53] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [21:54] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [21:54] i feel like beer and an artery clogging cheeseburger [21:54] sounds good [21:55] some one say beer ? [21:55] BEER [21:55] zomg [21:55] Action: andarius eyeballs nullboy [21:56] Action: nullboy licks andarius' eyeball [21:56] TAZER !!! [21:56] i had a girlfriend who would do that to me as punishment [21:56] dont violate my bubble man... :P [21:56] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.242) left irc: ":wq" [21:56] she'd lick my eyeball [21:56] that sounds really bad [21:56] dsd311 (n=dberube@252.139.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:57] it was [21:57] ok, a good ftp server? sftp? vsftpd? proftpd? what is good and security? [21:57] it hurts [21:57] risperidon: i just use scp [21:57] for available in the webserver? [21:57] more security and good? [21:57] has anyone been able to get qtcurve-0.61.4 working with kde 4.2? 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[22:09] Rodrigo_Lopes (n=wiegraf7@201-92-229-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:11] I love the fact that you can create a flash usb boot disk from the setup now [22:11] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:12] i maxed my 750GB mirror. now i need two 1.5TB disks instead [22:14] Zeldarock (n=freddyrm@68.206.34.45) joined ##slackware. [22:14] what's slackware? [22:14] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:15] you can go now [22:15] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [22:16] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.68.236) left irc: "Leaving" [22:16] heh [22:19] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@69.143.107.103) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [22:19] nullboy: damn, what have you got on them? pr0n? :) [22:20] huge backup files [22:20] raw disk images [22:20] ah [22:21] nice, that'd make a desktop recovery very quick [22:21] that's exactly why i keep them [22:21] keep what? [22:21] please fill me in [22:21] Zeldarock: go away [22:21] ditto [22:22] Zeldarock (n=freddyrm@68.206.34.45) left ##slackware. [22:22] \o/ [22:22] yay [22:23] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [22:23] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] before i ever install for any clients i dd their system as it is so that no matter what i can't loose any data [22:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [22:23] then i loop mount the images and copy the data back to the windows systems via samba [22:25] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [22:27] bah [22:27] how do you chmod a directory? [22:28] just like any other file [22:29] chmod 755 dir [22:29] ooh [22:29] I did chmod dir 755 :P [22:29] use the man pages [22:30] Will do, thanks. [22:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx11497.skokiil.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] haha :) the X-accel guys are cool [22:42] http://www.xig.com/Pages/OSsupport.html [22:43] What's X-accel anyway. [22:44] someone is op'ed o.O [22:44] a non standard X implementation [22:44] Sounds familiar now. [22:44] meaning its not xorg, or xf86 [22:45] Yes. [22:47] Slackware 12.1 10.2, .. Our favorite workhorse Linux. We use it everywhere. [22:49] i'm off to sleep guys, night [22:50] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:50] when did nullboy get op'd? [22:50] I never seen chanserv op him [22:51] Forever? [22:51] a long time ago... in a land far far away [22:52] opps nachox I mean :) [22:52] he has been an op here for years now [22:52] twolf: I know I just never seen chanserv op him in my logs [22:52] as to when he flexed, i have no clue [22:54] idiot spammer in earlier [22:54] doh, i missed spammer spankin :( [22:55] ah it was back at 17:59 [22:55] yeah that guy was a spammer just looked back in my logs [22:57] Nick change: sidmario[luto] -> sidmario [23:00] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:06] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [23:06] i'm an op? [23:06] nullboy: wrong tab completition :) [23:06] lol [23:07] bah ... I m just waiting for llvm+clang to compile so I didn't check what name popped up [23:07] i'm doing windows reinstalls [23:08] (##slackware) Channel ban on metbsd*!*@* expired. [23:08] ##slackware: mode change '-b metbsd*!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:08] nullboy: I pity you [23:08] nullboy: that has to be the worst job in IT. [23:08] it pays decent though so i don't hate it that much [23:09] this one was a hard disk failure due to a power surge that also took out their router so i get to tack on all that stuff too [23:10] only issue I had with a power surge is that my bios is dead on this machine [23:10] nullboy: what about data recovery? [23:10] bios works but the battery and other things won't store the information :) [23:10] nullboy: it's a PITA in windows [23:10] thumbs: yeah, and this disk was done for [23:10] no more access [23:10] kitche: so don't reboot! [23:10] nullboy: ah, easy enough [23:11] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.141.124) joined ##slackware. [23:11] thumbs: don't have control over the bills .... anyways this is a few years old so it's time for a new computer anyways [23:11] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:11] if my systems got jacked up due to someone else failing to pay the power bill i'd rage [23:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx11497.skokiil.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:17] SlackNeo1 (n=SlackNeo@190.176.146.82) joined ##slackware. [23:17] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-51.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [23:21] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:21] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:24] Nick change: Gargantu -> Gargantua [23:24] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.159.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:25] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:25] night all [23:25] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "There are four types of hats to be aware of: Black, White, Grey and Red. The meanings are: Cracker, Hacker, Guru and Victim. [23:27] Hurr. [23:27] my bios resets my CPU speed from time to time. [23:28] down to 500Mhz, actually [23:28] Nick change: SlackNeo1 -> SlackNeo [23:29] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] I do not have an issue with my bios has long as it does not lose power [23:30] kitche: mine is over a simple powerdown/hardware upgrade. [23:30] yeah if i lose power my cpu is at 0 mhz [23:31] hersonls (n=hersonls@189.81.50.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] nice. [23:31] infinite speed! [23:31] hersonls (i=1004@189.81.225.249) joined ##slackware. [23:31] just wish this llvm compile get done been going for about 3+ hours [23:32] Gah, there are some major assholes on freenode. [23:32] Thankfully, not here. [23:33] We're here now [23:33] \./_\0/ [23:33] Gargantua: what channel? [23:33] #aircrack-ng [23:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:33] they be all on crack [23:33] lol [23:34] I ask for someone to recommend a wireless card with "preferably ethernet or usb" [23:34] So this op starts calling me a moron for asking for a ethernet card, I list 3 examples of ethernet wireless cards. [23:34] So he bans me :/ [23:35] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.141.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [23:35] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [23:36] Gargantua: well ethernet isn't a way to connect a wifi card to your system. you can connect wifi cards via usb, pci, cardbus/pccard. [23:37] some have ethernet + wireless [23:37] you can plug your ethernet card into another system that has wifi and route or bridge... [23:37] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Linksys WET11, OTC Wireless ACR-201, Zyxel-Zyair B-400. [23:37] Google those. [23:37] ... [23:38] i command you to google those now [23:38] lol [23:38] If you like, I guess. [23:38] maybe that op thought you were some script kiddy [23:38] lol [23:38] Gargantua: can you even read? from the linksys website "Wireless-G Business Ethernet Bridge" [23:38] it's a bridge... [23:38] what about this one? http://www2.shopping.com/xPF-Zyxel-ZyAIR-B-400-AM5019004 [23:40] tank-man, how so? [23:40] you're not understanding this [23:40] Please, enlighten me. [23:40] yes, you can get a device that is a wireless adapter that also has an ethernet port but that is a bridge [23:41] And what is a bridge? [23:41] in this context a bridge connects two different mediums [23:41] Well they could've told me that instead of ban me! [23:41] Connects two dis-similar topologies. [23:41] They didn't even care to explain. [23:41] well now you know why [23:42] Why what? [23:42] why they banned you after you pasted a bunch of links to bridges.... [23:42] get it now? [23:42] speaking of bridges, anyone recommend a firewall frontend that will handle bridging networks? [23:42] I didn't paste any links, just names, exactly like I did here. [23:42] ... [23:43] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:43] so anyway if you need a USB wifi card that works with aircrack-ng suite and/or kismet go with the rtl8187 chipset. [23:44] I was thinking ALFA USB Adapter AWUS036H, 500mW. [23:44] But I'll look that up [23:45] i have a Alfa AWUS036 [23:45] it uses the rtl8187 [23:45] oh [23:45] Heh. [23:45] Action: Gargantua knows nothing about wireless stuff [23:45] which is why you got banned [23:46] So if someone that has never used linux before came in here and asked for you to recommend him a slackware mirror, you'd ban him? [23:46] http://tinyurl.com/auwtsh [23:47] That is completely irrelivant, where did I say I found a bug in aircrack-ng? [23:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.146.82) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] that is why you were banned. you weren't banned because you asked a good question. you were banned because you asked a question that demonstrated that you had not done your own reading first [23:47] just like the chmod thing earlier [23:48] that is not irrelevant and saying so demonstrates your lack of reading comprehension [23:49] Actually, I was looking at the aircrack-ng FAQs that had a list of a bunch of cards, their chipsets, and their HOST I/F. [23:50] Meaning I was at least trying. [23:51] I mean, these 3 cards were listed on there with "Ethernet" as the I/F [23:51] No mention of bridging or anything like that. [23:52] i give up [23:52] Gargantua, aircrack-ng is probably for knowledgable users, can you not understand why he banned you? the op didnt want a newb around [23:52] someday you'll figure out how the ethernet comes into this picture [23:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-78-184.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.57.103) left irc: "Saindo" [23:54] How am I to know that aircrack doesn't support bridged adapters? when I found the list on their site with Linksys WET11 listed having a compatable chipset. [23:55] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.57.103) joined ##slackware. [23:55] How to ask a question the smart way: before you ask ... 7) If you are a programmer, try to find your answer by reading the source [23:55] :) heh [23:55] It's just impossible for me to have avoided that mistake, I was doing my own reading, I wasn't suggesting a hole in anyone's knowledge. [23:55] oh well, live an learn [23:55] look, whatever!. they banned because you did the same in in there that you're doing here [23:55] tank-man, which in this case would've been the faqs. [23:55] you're arguing still [23:56] Action: agentc0re hands nullboy the eel cannon [23:58] eel cannon? [23:58] nullboy, did you get your adapter over the internet? [23:58] Action: Motoko-chan cringes [23:58] Gargantua: yeah [23:59] Can I ask, from where? [23:59] Gargantua: you just did :P [23:59] ebay [00:00] --- Mon Mar 9 2009