[00:00] RSA = cryptografy [00:00] yes it is associated [00:00] SM177Y: are you using WEP or WPA? [00:00] sorry i misread [00:00] no encryption right now just trying to get it to work first [00:00] What's others roles are there to RSA? [00:00] Snock: .... [00:00] Snock: what context are you talking about... [00:01] and i have configured it with iwconfig. essid, channel, enc, key, mode [00:01] Cryptografy RSA, 128 bits in Slackware [00:01] Snock: what the hell are you talking about though. what are you using it for? [00:02] grr i dont know im gonna try resetting my router again. this is lame [00:02] truecrypt [00:02] my desktop works just fine being configured the same way [00:02] Snock: i use LUKS instead of truecrypt [00:02] SM177Y: are you mac filtering on the AP? [00:02] yes [00:02] but its not blocked [00:03] only a couple loser neighbors that always try to get on and are too dumb to spoof a mac [00:03] SM177Y: you're certain about that because these symptoms stink of a block MAC address [00:03] yes [00:03] ok [00:03] i am looking at my bloack list right now [00:03] block list** [00:03] SM177Y: as root, what is the output of iwconfig? [00:03] can you pastebin it? [00:04] Snock (n=Snock@200-228-36-146-vn.cte.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [00:04] what part do u want bc i cant pastebin it because i dont have internet on it lolz [00:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [00:05] SM177Y: In the field for "Access Point:" you see the BSSID (MAC) of the AP? [00:05] yup [00:05] what does Link Quality show you? [00:05] 78/100 [00:05] ok [00:05] in that case it appears that you are indeed associated [00:06] SM177Y: next up on the list...does your AP have a Max number of clients option? [00:06] yes. its set to 7 users and only 3 are connected [00:06] i still have 4 open slots [00:07] ok [00:07] SM177Y: So you are connected to the wireless but you can't access the internet, is that what i am understanding? [00:08] agentc0re: he seems to be correctly associated but dhcpcd on the client fails [00:08] SM177Y: what happens if you set a static IP? [00:08] same thing. noda [00:08] something else is wrong then [00:09] if the client was correctly associated and all you did was set a static IP with ifconfig interface 192.168.1.50/24 you should be able to ping the AP, at least [00:09] and no its not connected to the router even tho iwconfig says its associated because i would be able to connect to the router config page if it was [00:09] no [00:09] i will try ping 1 sec [00:10] SM177Y: just because you are associated doesn't mean you have layer 3 connectivity [00:10] ping just gives network is unreachable [00:10] something deeper is wrong [00:11] and the same thing is happening with an addon card i have using ndiswrapper [00:11] just statically setting the ip wont work. you'll need to add the default GW as well [00:11] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-129-65.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:11] agentc0re that is not correct. setting a static IP will allow you local connectivity on layer 3 [00:11] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] so pinging the AP would work. [00:11] birdlives (n=lee@96.240.45.172) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] for full internet access he'd need to set the route [00:12] birdlives (n=lee@96.240.45.172) joined ##slackware. [00:13] morning [00:13] its weird because the packets are getting to the router i can see them [00:13] SM177Y: I suggest you clear the MAC filter and disable MAC filtering, temporarily as a test [00:14] i did that already [00:14] ok [00:14] im gonna try hard resetting my router again [00:14] is there any difference in using usermod over manually editing the files? For example, changing the shell in /etc/passwd? [00:14] be right back [00:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [00:14] birdlives (n=lee@96.240.45.172) left irc: Client Quit [00:15] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.199.224) joined ##slackware. [00:15] hello slacker brothers [00:15] dios_mio: not into girls are you? [00:15] lol [00:15] there are no girls on freenode, this is a place for geeks only :P [00:16] bah, all this prejudic [00:16] e [00:16] :P [00:17] dios_mio, no, there are two girls on IRC [00:17] lol [00:17] both are gone though [00:17] :D [00:17] 2 1/2 don't forget straterra [00:18] strange too, nix_chix0r should be in here, i think she is still on the ban list for sleep [00:18] haha, she got banned? [00:18] chopp: X_X [00:18] agentc0re, from sleeping.... that is what nix_dudz0rs|mini does [00:19] chopp: if we're counting 1/2's then don't forget nullgirl. [00:19] agentc0re, nullgirl got rejected [00:19] Ya, he's been gone for a real long time now after that whole thing. [00:20] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.232) joined ##slackware. [00:20] chopp, and straterra is....well, lets just say its a bit closer to a unic [00:20] hahah [00:20] Action: edman007 wonders why spellcheck does not believe in that word... [00:20] ahh, its eunuch [00:21] whatever... [00:21] huh, that's a weird way to spell that word. [00:21] it is not even pronounced like unic [00:22] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] SM177Y (n=woah@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:22] ee-un-ohch [00:22] something funny is going on here [00:22] SM177Y (n=woah@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] well ftw [00:22] just call them persons with pee holes under their ball sacks.. [00:22] that is the most retarded thing ever [00:22] captobviousman: just cut it off and you'll understand [00:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.131.17) left irc: "Leaving" [00:23] I'm trying to dd the contents of a hard drive onto an nfs share [00:23] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.199.224) left irc: "Ronald Reagan described economists as individuals who see something work in practice and wonder if it might work in theory." [00:23] and it gets to 2.6GB and stops [00:23] CaptObviousman, that was me [00:23] i told it to stop [00:23] though when I mount it and check df, it says there's 17GB on it [00:23] edman007: well, don't [00:23] working fine, not sure what setting was making it freak out but on defaults its fine....but my desktop could connect with the settings how it was so i dont know [00:23] thanks for the help tho guys [00:23] CaptObviousman, no, i don't like it when stuff happens [00:24] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] eviljame1 (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] SM177Y: are you using the stock firmware on the router or a thirdparty firmware? [00:26] well not stock but latest one on linksys [00:26] SM177Y: not dd-wrt, openwrt, hyperwrt, tomato blah blah right? [00:27] no [00:27] well not sure if its the latest but v8.00.2, Jun. 7, 2007 [00:28] SM177Y: Ah, and your problem revealed. Linksys. [00:29] honestly though, all of these fisher-price routers suck [00:29] actually ive used linksys for years and never had any "real" problems. any router is bound to have retarded hiccups. but like i said a reset and its all fine [00:29] i prefer belkin [00:29] but never had any big issues with linksys either [00:29] SM177Y: that's a common solution to most of the problems you find with these things [00:30] ok well now that i got it working and this addon N card is working too [00:30] how do i disable eth0 from trying to connect on bootup and have wlan0 do it instead [00:30] SM177Y: enable some freaking encrpytion now ;) [00:30] lol i will :P [00:30] SM177Y: look in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [00:31] k [00:31] encryption** [00:34] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] is there any way to re-enact the network phase of bootup now to see if i got this working without actually restarting? [00:34] yes [00:34] run: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [00:34] DOH [00:34] im dumb. i totally knew that [00:35] xD [00:35] you can also restart individual interfaces: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart [00:35] wlan0_stop wlan0_start are also valid [00:35] woah [00:36] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] both wireless cards connected to my router lolz [00:36] two diff ips for the same comp haha [00:36] nothing wrong with that [00:36] it's quite common to have servers with many IPs [00:36] lol ya. back when i was up at college i was bridging my lan connection with my wifi and getting some insane speeds [00:39] hmm.. i commented out the eth0 section in rc.inet1.conf but it keeps bringing it back up with /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [00:40] tuvok302-a (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-67.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [00:40] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:41] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-67.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:41] Turn into a jet! Bomb the Russians! Crash into the sun! Now I'm dead! *Like a boss!!! [00:43] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:43] agentc0re: thats an amazing video :P [00:44] i like im on a boat too :P [00:44] jizz in my pants is hilarious too :P [00:44] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:44] Have you watched "the bu"? [00:45] there's like 6 episodes. Their great. [00:45] no i havent [00:45] ill check em out tho :P [00:48] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-77.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-77.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:51] agentc0re: lol eliot from scrubs, shes a babe :P [00:53] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-26.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) joined ##slackware. [00:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.29) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Wow, Duke Nukem Forever just got officially dropped. 3d realms is no more. [01:02] maybe they will release the damn code for us [01:02] they did for duke nukem [01:02] I think it's all lies [01:02] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] they're gonna drop DNF at E3 [01:03] a sick joke [01:05] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:07] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:15] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-140-42.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:15] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.179.177) joined ##slackware. [01:16] hey im looking to create a "mid-root" account on my brothers laptop so that he has more control than an average user but not enough where he can screw shit up. any suggestions? [01:17] Action: cmk_zzz wanna go home and have a few bottles of wine. [01:17] Action: cmk_zzz hates oracle [01:17] Action: cmk_zzz hates suse [01:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:18] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:18] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:18] lee__ (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:19] SM177Y: perhaps setup sudo and only give him rights to the command he needs [01:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427949.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:19] Nick change: lee__ -> lee555J5 [01:20] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:20] lee__ (n=lee555J5@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Nick change: lee__ -> lee555J5 [01:21] ya like i just want him to be able to connect to the internet and stuff with ifconfig,iwconfig, dhcpcd, etc and maybe some other commands i feel he is worthy of using that cant screw anything up [01:21] yes, right [01:21] sudoers would be the way to go then [01:21] i want him to be able to use his comp for whatever he needs but if he runs into a "real" problem that he should come to me [01:21] aight [01:22] "real" problem like: he accidently finds a bunch of free porn on the internet? [01:22] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [01:23] lol [01:23] thats not a problem, thats a bonus of not having virus's ;) [01:23] lee555J5 (n=lee555J5@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:23] lee555J5 (n=lee555J5@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] hes sick of bsod and virus' so i told him i have an easy cure for that...its called slackware [01:24] :D [01:24] he's going to kill you in your sleep [01:24] lol y's that? :P [01:25] i already explained to him that if your not high end gaming then there is no need for windoze whatsoever. [01:26] You also can't get infected if your computer isn't on. [01:26] Just tell him to never ever turn it on again. [01:26] i first tried to put mandriva 09 powerpack on it (as i was looking for something simple for him) [01:26] then i tried opensuse [01:26] then sabayon [01:26] all were freakin out in some stupid way [01:26] Action: Motoko-chan hasn't had issues with Mandriva [01:27] so i said fuck it and put slackware on it and im slightly nubifying it for him [01:27] xD [01:27] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "sleep time ...zzzZZZ" [01:27] Slackware lobotomy? [01:27] lol [01:28] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [01:28] slubuntu: The distro for porn surfing family members [01:29] just simple stuff. like booting straight to X11 for a login screen so he doesnt have to mess with a terminal where hes not comfortable, some good ole stable kde 3.5 and the "mid-root" account that i was talking about [01:29] half slack, half ubuntu, it is worse than old charlie manson and it is in the wild [01:29] mixing slackware and ubuntu...you should be shot [01:29] don't look at me, you are the one creating it [01:30] lol [01:30] not even close [01:30] This sounds rather interesting. [01:30] cmk_zzz: could be ubuslack. :P [01:30] its not for me [01:30] and i refuse to put ubuntu on his laptop [01:30] Like combining a mentally retarded midget with a ninja. [01:30] haha [01:30] not even close to combining ubuntu actually [01:31] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] such strong feelings :P [01:31] hey antler. [01:31] hiya firebird619 :) [01:31] more like making it into an end-user distro. [01:31] antler: how's it going? [01:32] kinda like frugalware [01:32] but not to that extreme extent [01:32] firebird619: i'm good, und wie gehts dir (?) ? hehe [01:32] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:33] hmmm, should be easy to get started. like: alias apt-get='installpkg | wget http://*.tgz' [01:33] antler: :P, I'm doing very well. thanks. [01:33] that out to give you a stable machine [01:33] zlinux[] (n=zlinux@79.172.164.249) left irc: Connection timed out [01:33] firebird619: how's the bsd running for you? [01:34] antler: the mouse still isn't working. :( [01:34] netbsd? :) [01:34] firebird619: still? that sucks :( [01:34] sorry i'll cut this crap now. it is friday night, and time for some heavy drinking. TA DA! [01:34] antler: figured I'll have to ask in #freebsd. I've googled around and stuff and no luck. [01:34] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [01:34] frullet: FreeBSD. [01:34] btw, hello frullet, how are you? [01:35] cant complain :) you? [01:35] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1241759769131.jpg [01:35] frullet: Well, I can complain about this mouse issue, :P, but other than that I'm doing great, thanks. [01:35] porn ninja [01:36] antiwire: would this work? make his user part of the root group, but then change the permissions on the directories i dont want him messing up to only writable by the root user and not the root group? [01:36] pedo bear in the same picture as Chris Hansen [01:36] SM177Y: dude i'm not even going to suggest a course of action for this one, sorry man [01:36] jdetring (n=jay@76-200-121-139.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:36] why not, whats wrong with making a super user? [01:37] lol [01:37] hey chopp, how are you? [01:37] firebird619: yeah, they seem nice in #freebsd [01:38] firebird619: not so bad, how about yourself? [01:38] antler: yeah, I'll have to ask in there and see what else I can do to fix it. [01:38] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:38] chopp: doing great, thanks. Did the Canucks win then? [01:38] hey chopp : work picking up yet? :) [01:39] firebird619: no damn it, they lost. [01:39] chopp: seriously? What was the score? [01:40] antler: they might have work for me by the weekend. [01:40] chopp: good news, man :) [01:40] chopp: I looked it up, 1-2 in OT. [01:41] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:41] youd think that you guys would be a little more positive about getting more people using slackware even if they are nubs...according to distrowatch slackware has dropped 5 ranks in the last 6 months..youd think yous would be up for promoting slack to new comers (as i do) :P [01:41] but im out. catchas later [01:41] peace [01:41] SM177Y (n=woah@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:41] fsck new comers [01:41] lol [01:41] they can go use Ubuntu [01:43] people always confuse popularity with quality [01:43] antiwire: I don't get that pic. [01:44] it's pedo bear + chris hansen [01:44] oh, thats who that guy is? heh, doesn't really look like him. [01:44] lol [01:44] in rare cases, popularity and quality do go hand-in-hand; dr. dre, for example [01:44] :D [01:44] antler: your wrong there :) [01:46] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:46] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:47] frullet: hahah not a dre fan? :P [01:47] dre the musician is more what i'm talking about, not dre the rapper :D [01:48] antler: dre is *very* over rated by the masses, while non sell outs aka Gangstarr / Jedi mind tricks burn him in everyway [01:48] actually, dre shouldn't rap IMO [01:48] dre's beats are pathetic, early 90's beats are where its at [01:49] hahah he IS 90s west coast :P [01:49] chronic set the bar :) [01:49] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [01:50] this is the only good rapper right here: http://frontalot.com/index.php/ [01:51] (bear in mind, I don't really like rap very much...) [01:52] wtf?? noam chomsky actually said what's attributed to him on the site? hilarious [01:52] klotz (n=a@e179153054.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [01:52] I have no idea [01:53] hahaha can't be right. chomsky doesn't talk like that :P [01:54] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [01:54] bleah [01:55] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.168.236) joined ##slackware. [01:57] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:58] antler: I asked about the mouse in #freebsd, now I'll wait for a response. :) [01:59] frullet: as good as i think he is, i actually don't listen to him as much as a few others [01:59] firebird619: yeah, i hope there's someone around to help :) [02:00] antler: Got my hands on a early mobb deep mix tape a few weeks ago, well worth the money ;) [02:00] antler: heh, me too. Doesn't seem like there's much activity there right now. 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[02:10] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:10] I haven't had any issues with it. I have FreeBSD, OpenSolaris, Slackware 12.2, Slackware -current, and Windows 7 RC in it. [02:11] firebird619: you do slack host and slack guest? :P [02:11] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [02:11] antler: Yup. :P for testing stuff sometimes, etc. [02:12] BP{k}_ (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [02:12] abby: i don't. but i remember that it was serious enough to warrant a downgrade, though [02:12] abby: or maybe it was one version prior to the newest [02:13] antler: and 2.2.0 didn't work either, you had to go back to 2.1.4? [02:13] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [02:13] mikearr_ (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:14] firebird619: i don't recall even if i tried that one. but 2.1.4 works; so i figure why change? [02:14] RaNdY (i=randy@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:14] antler: that's true, whatever works. :) [02:14] firebird619: i just do the xp thing, that's it [02:15] antler: Ok, someone in #freebsd is saying that my mouse probably needs some funky driver or something to work. [02:15] Yeah, of course I enjoy self mutilation as well as the bleeding edge [02:15] oh and i just installed freebsd, but the kb and mouse don't work in x [02:15] antler: hahahahaha. :P Welcome to my world. [02:15] except my kb works. [02:16] bleah blah bleah [02:16] antler: Pig_Pen was in here earlier and said he had to add something to xorg.conf for his kb to work. [02:16] I bought a Vaio last month and was pleasently surprised to find that EVERYTHING works [02:16] abby: hahah i'm actually conscious of my linux evolution; i no longer desire bleeding edge [02:16] webcam, bluetooth, even the damn modem lol [02:17] antler: your the one that converted to arch arnt you? [02:17] function keys, dvd burner [02:17] firebird619: yeah, sunday projects after the kids have been fed and the grass has been cut [02:17] I soiled myself when I found out that none of my hardware was wasted [02:18] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] frullet: i did arch 64 for a few months. i couldn't really adjust to pacman -Syu and thought why should i adjust? it's an os. :P [02:18] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:19] antler: So what are you on now, slackware or slamd64 or what? [02:21] firebird619: i really wanted to stick with slamd64 because i have 4gb of ram, but i couldn't get vlc to work and vlc is important; so i'm now running slack with pae and high mem. [02:21] Yay, slackware ftw!!!. :P [02:22] 4 GB, good grief. [02:23] firebird619: yeah, i really like slack [02:23] me too. :) [02:23] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:24] firebird619: how much do you have? [02:24] antler: I tried a standard usb mouse with freebsd and no luck with that either. [02:24] antler: :( 1 GB [02:24] anything < 2GB just feels to slow.. [02:24] total used free shared buffers cached [02:24] Mem: 4044 3924 120 0 11 2609 [02:25] no swap, firebird619 [02:25] i really like leaving all the programs that i use open [02:26] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:26] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-26.dial.telus.net) left irc: No route to host [02:26] yes, we can tell... :P [02:26] no swap at all, nice. [02:26] Action: firebird619 wishes someday to have that much ram. [02:26] frullet: don't you leave yours open all the time? [02:26] I have enough ram slots, just no ram to put in them. [02:27] firebird619: does it take the 184 or 240? [02:27] antler: im always running in CLI, pretty much the only thing that is left open is irssi [02:27] because 240 is dirt cheap :D [02:27] frullet: oh, you're one of those. [02:27] :) [02:27] ;) [02:28] antler: 184. :( [02:28] firebird619: mine too. two things suck about that: 1) 184 is expensive, and 2) 184 doesn't come > than 1gb [02:29] (not where i shop anyway) [02:29] I like the awesome wm, but haven't figured out how to get it going on slackware. I have it installed though. [02:29] antler: yeah, 184 is not cheap at all. [02:29] total used free shared buffers cached [02:29] Mem: 3926 3475 451 0 120 2118 [02:29] -/+ buffers/cache: 1236 2689 [02:29] my dick is bigger [02:29] :D [02:29] hey abby : you're doing slamd64, yeah? [02:29] bbiab [02:30] Gentoo x86_64 [02:30] #gentoo sucks though [02:30] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:30] :) [02:30] abby: yeah, notice the total ram on yours and on mine (slackware 12.2) [02:30] weird [02:31] antler, shared memory [02:31] my video card is using the rest [02:31] of mine [02:31] oh, is that what that is.... [02:31] I always thought so . . . [02:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) joined ##slackware. [02:34] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [02:39] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:39] then i guess my nvidia card must be sharing as well, since i have more ram reported with slack than with slamd [02:40] ;-) [02:42] edman007, alives? [02:43] antler: Is your card built-in? [02:43] tecky: irritating? [02:43] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.18) joined ##slackware. [02:44] antler, ?????????? huh? [02:44] firebird619: no, i was kidding. that the video card is alleged to be sharing the memory doesn't make sense to me. [02:44] antler: ok, :P [02:45] <_RadioHead> morning [02:45] _RadioHead: Good Morning. How are you? [02:45] <_RadioHead> hi firebird619 , how are you mate [02:45] <_RadioHead> ? [02:46] <_RadioHead> firebird619: sleepy today :) [02:46] _RadioHead: doing very well, thanks. [02:47] radi0head, /agree, i've been asleep from 10pm - 2:30 am and just cant get back to sleep since, so i decided to get up and chat a bit >.> [02:47] <_RadioHead> tecky: i was replacing a disk last night so i goto bad very late/or better early in the morning :) [02:48] hughszg (n=hugh_2@58.33.152.74) left ##slackware. [02:48] agh i got up thinking one of my regs would be on to chat w/ ... and the little shitz all seem to be asleep :( [02:50] Oregon Man Used an Electric Dog Collar to Shock His Kids "Because He Thought It Was Funny" [02:50] /discuss [02:50] antler: wrt the sharing memory, if the video card is built-in to the mobo, it actually does share some RAM. [02:52] tecky: They're not necessarily asleep, they could just be afk right now. [02:53] no they're there, they just dont wanna talk [02:53] lurkers [02:53] firebird619: no, mine's not built-in. slamd64 and slack report different amounts of total ram; slack + pae + high mem reports more. [02:53] firebird619, no they are there :P [02:53] hey tewmten [02:53] long time :) [02:53] Hey tewmten. How's it going? [02:54] <_RadioHead> hey tewmten dude :) [02:55] Anyone here use awesome wm? I have it installed but have yet to figure out how to get it started to use, or at least get it added to the session chooser in kdm. [02:55] tecky: indeed [02:55] wonder what'd happen on a box with less than 4G of RAM, compare standard slack kernel vs. standard slamd kernel, do they report the same amount of RAM? [02:55] firebird619, _RadioHead :) [02:55] Action: tewmten just got in to work [02:56] tewmten: Ah, lucky you. :P [02:56] (and IIRC, "free -m"'s output doesn't include the part of memory that's permanently in use by the kernel...) [02:56] tewmten, i heard acidchild's back and around (as evident by him being in the chan) [02:56] morning Urchlay [02:56] hola tecky [02:56] tecky: yeah he pops in here every now and then [02:56] is actually middle of night for me, trying & failing to sleep [02:56] Hey Urchlay. [02:56] lol [02:57] howdy firebird [02:57] Urchlay, same boat as meh then :( [02:57] I have some kind of cold, fever's gone away but head is full of snot [02:57] Urchlay, lovely [02:57] oddly, drinking coffee seems to clear it up some... but of course I wanted to sleep... [02:57] failing asleep.. hehe [02:57] Urchlay: I've had that before. Having a full/congested head is the worst. [02:57] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:58] only other thing I've got that'll do anything is this stuff that's "non-drowsy"... which is pharmaceutical marketing-ese for "will make you speed like speddy frigging gonzalez" [02:58] Urchlay: Ever heard of/used those netipot (sp?) for the nose to clear out the sinuses? [02:58] never heard of it [02:59] Urchlay: It's not just for having colds or anything, just a good way to clear out the sinuses. [02:59] what is it, a pipe cleaner? :) [02:59] it's like an anal probe, but for your nose [02:59] gak [02:59] haha [02:59] eh, i'm gonna end up going into the wifes work and sitting there today i just know it [02:59] >.< [03:00] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:00] tecky: why? [03:00] and is that bad in any way? [03:00] tewmten, thats, a lovely thing to wake up to >.> [03:00] Urchlay: haha, it's a little dish type thing with a spout that you put in your nose, tip your head and pour, it runs in one nostril and comes out the other. [03:00] spending time with the wife instead of doing your own work.. [03:00] tewmten, she's a manager at a starbucks :) [03:00] funky [03:00] ah [03:00] Urchlay: my uncle uses it and swears by it now. Says it really helps. [03:01] i need one of those [03:01] clear my nose out [03:01] either that or cocaine [03:01] anal cleanings? [03:01] lol [03:01] I bet coke would just make things worse [03:01] (and I'd never get to sleep then...) [03:01] that's why you need that device i guess [03:01] :D [03:01] :P [03:02] rotorooter for the nose? [03:02] hm [03:02] http://www.himalayaninstitute.org/Netipot/NetiPotGateway.aspx [03:02] There's one, there's different brands. [03:02] someone put a trophee on my desk that says SEX ON LEGS [03:02] i dont understand.. [03:02] haha [03:02] tewmten, they want sex? [03:02] doubt I'll ever do coke again for the rest of my life... but if I ever do, I'll dress up in a clown suit and run around making balloon guitars and saying "I do cocaaaaine! kukukuyeah!" [03:02] must be my very attractive beer belly [03:03] hahahaha [03:03] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.232) left irc: "Leaving" [03:03] tewmten: lol, some people are into that. :P [03:03] a beer belly that is. [03:03] yeah i have kinda noticed [03:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] a friend's g/f plans to make a calendar containing pix with only beer bellys [03:04] lol [03:04] and somehow she dragged me in to it also.. [03:04] what, like only the bellies, with no faces? [03:04] tewmten: Which month will you be? :P [03:04] so maybe i will end up being a calendar model [03:04] firebird619: i hope i get to be one of the summer months haha [03:04] Well hello Mr. July. :P [03:04] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.69) joined ##slackware. [03:04] lol [03:05] how long slackware 12.2 will be maintained? [03:05] Action: tewmten clears his bellybutton of lint [03:05] Thursap: a LONG time. [03:05] Thursap: a long time. Slackware 8.0 is still maintained... [03:05] it is? [03:05] hmmm how does one know when to stop sharing torrents, i'm at a 9% ratio :\ [03:05] no, my bad, 8.0 isn't... but 8.1 is [03:05] 9.38 [03:06] tecky: that usually depends on the tracker [03:06] som trackers have rules so people wont over-seed.. [03:06] tewmten, its a craptastic tracker... *wink* [03:06] like if users have to keep a certain tracker to be able to keep their accounts [03:06] however if it's a public tracker i dont give a fuck [03:06] ehhh, over-seed? [03:07] Urchlay: yeah, not giving other people chance to seed so their overall ratio on the tracker drops.. [03:07] hm [03:07] Urchlay: i know some private trackers that enforce that [03:07] but its mainly pirated content so.. [03:07] wonder if that explains the 4 or 5 torrents I'm trying to seed and nobody's connecting [03:07] it sort of makes sense in that case i would say [03:07] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [03:07] depends on the tracker [03:07] oh well [03:07] and its not like we use pirated content.......... [03:08] these are public trackers [03:08] time to do some more mysql'ing [03:08] bbl [03:08] having fun with yoursql :) [03:08] tecky: you dont? are you gay or what?! :D [03:08] :P [03:08] anyway.. bbl [03:08] later tewmten. [03:08] tewmten, bai fucker :P [03:09] tonephish (n=tone@unaffiliated/tonephish) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:11] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.131.124) joined ##slackware. [03:11] mikearr_ (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:12] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [03:15] and just like that, a great silence fell over ##slackware. :P [03:16] flvr (n=flvr@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] yep. [03:16] how to find things that NOT match the pattern in Vim? [03:16] flvr (n=flvr@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) left ##slackware. [03:17] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host59-30-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Here's 8 nice conky setups/instructions if anyone's interested. I just came across it: http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/07/8-beautiful-conky-desktop-monitor-setup/ [03:18] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:20] anybody know if NX client can takeover a live session? [03:20] ugh KDE [03:20] Thursap, ?? [03:21] i have a regular desktop running on a tower, walk away and remote in with nx client but it just starts a new session. [03:21] sluckxz, that remote X11 client? [03:21] yea [03:21] mikearr_ (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] sluckxz, i believe it can resume a "detached" session, however its been ages since i even looked into that [03:22] yea i saw that but so far that only works for a detached nx session, [03:22] i can resume those, i kinda wanted a vnc/rdp take over the live thing. 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[03:54] ok im new to slack and ive looked at the slack book and have copy of the package mgmt tools.. i think in its entirety but i seem to be missing something.. im used to a master config file that has mirrors in it and can by synced and dl'd from.. where is that informatioon ... 12.2 is the install [03:55] VampirePenguin: /etc/slackpkg ? [03:55] uncomment one mirror from the "mirrors" file [03:55] VampirePenguin: In slackware, you choose a mirror to use in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors. [03:55] slackpkg update [03:55] slackpkg upgrade-all [03:57] ok i see that file... i just have to uncomment the one i want... do you rank mirrors or just choose them [03:57] kk ill man slackpkg [03:58] VampirePenguin: You only choose one. Also, choose one under the Slackware 12.2 section. [03:58] cool [03:58] ty firebird619 spiki [03:59] VampirePenguin: your welcome. [03:59] my biggest test is going to get encfs and fuse to work [03:59] VampirePenguin: for encfs you might want to use slackbuilds [03:59] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:00] is gnome supported in slack.. i saw some stuff wiz by on installation but for the most part it was kde, flux, xfce [04:00] VampirePenguin: btw, I said choose one under the Slackware 12.2 section because, as you may have noticed, that file is divided into different Sections, so only choose one on the entire file and make sure it's under the Slackware 12.2 section. :) [04:00] VampirePenguin: either go to www.slackbuilds.org and search there... or go to sbopkg.org and install sbopkg :) [04:00] ight, night all for the 2nd time, going back to bed >.> [04:00] night firebird619 get some sleep :) [04:00] VampirePenguin: There are varius sites that have gnome for slackware, but slackware itself does not use/support gnome. [04:00] (sbopkg handles all the manual work with slackbuilds.org slackbuilds) [04:00] *detached* [04:01] tecky: good night. Take care. [04:01] tecky: n8 [04:01] oh i c spiki [04:01] that will help for builds [04:02] its not that i need gnome.... i prefer kde and 3.5.10 is fine.... [04:02] VampirePenguin: not only help but do all the work. [04:02] ive tried 4.2.x and meh [04:02] VampirePenguin: slackbuilds.org is a place to find various programs to build and install. It doesn't have everything, but it does have alot. [04:02] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] ^ topic [04:03] Hey Zordrak. How's it going? [04:03] now when i do updates are configuration files going to change... does that also include when slack is released in its next freeze [04:03] firebird619: lsowly [04:03] slowly [04:03] :) [04:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:04] VampirePenguin: slackbook.org .. config files are presented to you for consideration [04:04] VampirePenguin: it doesnt do automatic merges etc... and has no tool for doing it [04:04] ok so its all manual [04:04] perfect [04:05] VampirePenguin: In some cases, yes, various files will change. When you do updates via slackpkg, it will let you know and ask for your input of what to do. Be careful, or you could end up overwriting a custom configuration you may have made. [04:05] nothing like having a whole config file wiped out and not know it and some service is or is not working [04:05] VampirePenguin: you have tho option to O, R, K or P [04:05] pkgtools create /etc/*.new files that are expected to be reviewed by user and "merged". [04:05] VampirePenguin: to find out what they are... read up :) [04:05] oh i am [04:05] im just trying to get some pointed info and i can read the mans [04:06] VampirePenguin: slackbasics.org is another good resource for info. [04:06] reading stuff and figuring it out is the deal [04:06] as long as my stuff is stable, i can do what iwant to do with my box im a happy pengy [04:07] VampirePenguin: You'll find that slackware is very stable and reliable. [04:07] thats what i need.... i never expected to come this route [04:07] but thats fine [04:09] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[04:54] Action: Zordrak wishes Amarok was a little more stable [04:54] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.232) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:56] on linux, the only player I've found OK was mplayer [04:57] alienBOB: Just found one of your linuxquestions forum posts - most useful! (gd support requiring X stuff...) [04:57] sure there are things it doesn't support (.cue files for instance) but at least it works, plays audio and is not painfully annoying [05:00] Amarok's lovely.. just wish it didnt break [05:01] Amarok good, but hungry [05:01] The MySQL data it generates is useful [05:02] Wrote a front end once long ago [05:02] Webby thing which queued up tracks for play over icecast [05:17] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:28] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2e109dc2117e0826) joined ##slackware. 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[09:56] gnulib is driving me mad [09:57] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.170) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] still unsatisfied with apache package provided by slackware :( [09:57] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) returned to ##slackware. [09:57] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.25) returned to ##slackware. [09:58] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-72-47-14-178.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) returned to ##slackware. [09:58] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.108.21) joined ##slackware. [09:58] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/source/n/httpd/ [09:58] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) returned to ##slackware. [09:58] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) returned to ##slackware. [09:58] opensource, feel free to recompile [09:58] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [09:58] I think that I must install it manually [09:58] right [09:58] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) returned to ##slackware. [09:58] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.170) joined ##slackware. [09:59] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [09:59] installing manually isn't a great idea [09:59] thrice`, did you test apache2 in debian or ubuntu ? [09:59] what is exactly wrong with apache package? [09:59] it's look perfect [10:00] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) returned to ##slackware. [10:00] The_Faithful: do you have anything specifically that doesn't work ? [10:00] frullet, the organization of module [10:00] the flexibility ... [10:00] Action: thrice` rolls eyes [10:01] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] mgs` (n=mgs@unaffiliated/mgs/x-0000001) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] Matt_____ (n=matt@cpc1-warr1-0-0-cust642.bagu.cable.ntl.com) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] Thursap_ (n=bnguyen@118.71.108.21) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.90.211) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) got lost in the net-split. [10:01] thrice`, working it's not enough when you have more than ten apache mods to install it will be fastidious in configuration [10:02] in debian for example you have mods-available and mods-enabled for orgnazing the mods [10:02] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.155) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:02] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] additionally you have sites-available/enabled if you have more than one site running in your apache server [10:03] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [10:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:07] tecky: eh? [10:07] tecky: which statemenet? [10:08] "I'm a big fat ass" [10:09] ;p [10:09] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [10:09] I'm wondering if it will manage its way through noobfarm's moderation ;p [10:10] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.35) joined ##slackware. [10:10] haha [10:11] submitted for moderation ;p [10:11] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] Camarade_Tux: The reCaptcha better than the old captcha? [10:11] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] I have never seen the old captcha but the recaptcha was alright :) [10:12] ah [10:12] Camarade_Tux: http://www.darkscience.org/quote/add.php [10:12] that's the old catpcha [10:13] Dominian, yeah, recaptcha better ! 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[10:37] imouse (n=imouse@222.65.161.123) left irc: "‚»" [10:39] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] hi frullet, Camarade_Tux, just saw your posts, guys, I stepped away from the keyboard for a moment:) TGIF! [10:46] hitest, hey, you were quick, only 30 to 40 messages have been written ;p [10:46] heh:) yup [10:46] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.9.49) joined ##slackware. [10:48] klotz (n=a@e179153054.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:48] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:49] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Hello everyone :) [10:52] Dominian: actually, no. Sounds like Eric. [10:52] ah [10:52] rworkman: just a guess [10:52] ;) [10:52] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Eddie_grey (n=NPL13@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Eddie_grey (n=NPL13@200.138.220.246) left irc: Client Quit [10:55] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] okay, two questions: [10:56] anyone have any experience with the rt linux kernel patch? [10:56] anyone got advice for moving from kde3 to kde4 (12.2)? [10:57] Dominian: not a bad guess though :) [10:57] heh [10:59] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:00] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.0.210) joined ##slackware. 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[11:18] if you have the slackware tree in your HD it should work [11:18] for now [11:19] why's it gonna change? [11:19] to annoy you [11:19] ;) [11:19] yeah:) [11:19] when you say tree, are you referring to A, AB, KDE, X, XAP, etc. ? [11:19] I'm fixin to take my first try at slamd64 - question: can I expect slackbuilds to be fairly consistent in building/working ? [11:19] i sense major changes in the installer [11:20] oldschooler: yes [11:20] or package format that the installer can't handle :) [11:20] in that case, the tree resides on an ftp server [11:20] rk4n3: builds.slamd64.com [11:20] Dominian: ah - thanks :) [11:20] thrice`: that would be even better and most welcome [11:20] rk4n3: If you don't find what ou're looking for there and it happens to be on slackbuilds.org.. pop into #slamd64 and find thrice` or myself.. we can port it fairly quickly and get it posted [11:21] Dominian: sweet ! [11:21] although i am a gzip fan [11:21] maybe they ll forget to rebuild some of the package in xz :P [11:21] so... the 12.2 installer may not be compatible with current packages anymore? [11:22] eventually rworkman will start accepting LIBDIRSUFFIX and all will be well in the world ;) [11:22] Dominian, /me wants apvlv on slamd64 ! [11:22] if you say I may experience problems after setup utilty is done installing packages and runs configurations scripts, I will stay with 12.2 [11:22] Camarade_Tux: is it on slackbuilds? [11:22] Dominian, yep :) [11:23] yeah its mine. the script is licensed under an ELUA [11:23] where are the private key .ppk files located for the sshd in slackware? [11:23] Dominian, btw, you shouldn't have said that, I have a dozen of slackbuilds for you to port ;p [11:24] isnt there an automatic way to do it? [11:24] should be easy on most [11:25] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] it is. usually just changing ARCH, and adding a --libdir=/usr/lib64 to configure will do it [11:25] Camarade_Tux: hehe [11:26] sometimes you have to do LDFLAGS [11:26] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:26] Dominian, but you have some time left : I need to port pkgsrc to windows first :) [11:26] heh [11:27] you definitely have some time left... [11:27] Dominian rworkman -twas a ban of mine indeed [11:27] Camarade_Tux: pkgsrc has had an Interix port for ages [11:28] (Microsoft Services For Unix) [11:28] pi31415, I'd like to have a native one, UWIN from AT&T should provide the missing functions and headers [11:28] alienBOB: hehe [11:28] (because I want to generate native apps then) [11:29] ok this rocks... you all are a secret hid out in the open.... slackpkg and sbopkg are just as easy or easier to use as other package managers and if something doesnt compile read the log, and install the package... hmmmmmmmm [11:29] im going to like this [11:29] I wish they had called it Microsoft Services and Technology For Unix [11:29] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.0.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] Microsoft STU? [11:31] oh [11:31] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) joined ##slackware. [11:31] STFU :D [11:32] projectstfu.com :) [11:32] Camarade_Tux: apvlv is on builds.slamd64.com now [11:33] Dominian, thanks :) [11:33] The_Faithful (n=Mak@196.12.237.15) joined ##slackware. [11:33] hrm.. not showing up [11:33] give it a mminute [11:34] Dominian, I can't test it currently, I'm on windows... [11:34] There it is [11:35] no worries [11:35] just making sure the site was finding it [11:37] Dominian: ping [11:37] Camarade_Tux: apvlv works on windows too, no? [11:38] sahko, I don't know, it should but I've never tried it [11:38] it does IIRC [11:38] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [11:38] actually what's keeping me busy right now is getting an environment where I can compile apps and libs, once this is done, I'll check apvlv ;p [11:39] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [11:39] Nick change: alisonken1home1 -> alisonken1home [11:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:42] Dominian: n/m - time for me to head to sleep [11:42] siIvia_ (i=pinuspin@41.236.14.77) joined ##slackware. [11:43] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:45] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) joined ##slackware. [11:48] I just destroyed data in a way I have not done before. I missed the . keystroke and ran the command: cp /path/* [11:50] doesn't it complain about a missing operand ? [11:50] <_chess_> :wq [11:50] it expanded to "cp /path/file1 /path/file2" [11:51] <_chess_> arg, wrong window [11:51] ZZ [11:51] ow [11:52] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Action: ClaudioM passes _chess_ some coffee [11:52] M-X-R-C-V-Z-Q (yeah, I actually use vim) [11:52] <_chess_> peanut_gallery > /dev/null [11:52] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.108.21) left irc: "leaving" [11:54] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:54] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-177-1.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [11:55] lol [11:55] toastytoast (n=toast@72.224.240.11) joined ##slackware. [11:56] znuzing (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] I don't like vim, but the other vi clones suck more. [11:59] alisonken1home: pong? [11:59] Dominian: just in time [11:59] heh [11:59] why not jsut use vi then? [11:59] did you see my ping in slackbuilds? [11:59] alisonken1home: yeah [11:59] ? [11:59] pi31415: actually, vim sucks less than the other clones [11:59] alisonken1home: the alternative was acidchild [11:59] ah, that's what I thought [12:00] alisonken1home: reread my statement [12:00] >.> [12:00] i personally like vim [12:00] I was late this morning since the better half decided since I work 5 blocks from the flower district, it was my duty to get mother's day bouquet's [12:01] oh crap... [12:01] here is an example vim annoyance: http://peox.net/articles/vimconfig.html [12:01] was it today ? [12:01] alisonken1home: althought I did use biship for some backups [12:01] pi31415: I did. your's was glass half-empty statement, mine was glass half-full statement ;) [12:01] so I have like 4GB of backup data on there I'm syncing with. [12:01] ah [12:02] vim, yet another editor with its own scripting language that overrides your preferences =) [12:02] been a week or so since I checked the site. been a little busy unpacking new machines (like 5 pallets, of whith 2 pallets were dell 2950's) [12:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.2.249) joined ##slackware. [12:03] http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/284-The-problem-with-turing-complete-editors.html [12:03] Matt_____ (n=matt@cpc1-warr1-0-0-cust642.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [12:03] alisonken1home: hehe [12:03] alisonken1home: Well, bishop hasn't gone to waste.. trust me [12:04] if I boot with a minimal 12.2 cd and install current packages from ftp site, will the installer run the configurations scripts well or will there be compatibility issues? [12:04] Dominian: just got the last dell unpacked this morning. one of the other things I'm working on is getting our ipv6 test dns server up (as well as the day shift adding another row of cabinets) [12:04] ahhh [12:05] IOW - been a little busy the last week :) [12:05] or - if you're up between 2200-0600, we could chat then :) [12:06] any ideas? [12:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:08] oldschooler (i=bcirap@ariel.minilab.bdeb.qc.ca) left ##slackware. [12:12] hehe [12:12] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Heh, 210.120.24.125 exceeded our 50 concurrent SMTP connection limit 187 times. *plonk* [12:14] wow [12:14] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:14] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@24.159.166.178 expired. [12:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:16] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@24.159.166.178' by irc.freenode.net [12:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:16] The logs don't show them actually trying to deliver any email. I wonder if they were doing something sneaky. [12:17] 187 times, of course they were [12:18] or there comp is infected with zombieware [12:18] multiply it out and it is about 10000 connections [12:18] *their [12:18] http://nixos.org/nixos/index.html <-- just out of curiosity, have any of you looked at this? [12:18] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [12:19] ambition [12:19] hey all [12:19] zozma, and your point is? [12:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:19] Necos: big claims, might be neat [12:19] but not trustworthy (yet) [12:19] i like the theory [12:20] an AI-based package manager... don't you realize computers are not supposed to think? [12:20] ^_^ [12:20] they do exactly what they're told... [12:20] yes, well [12:21] Silvie_ (i=cecile26@41.236.13.109) joined ##slackware. [12:21] and what will they do when a package changes something major and breaks compatibility [12:21] i'm not sure they need to worry [12:22] sure they do [12:22] not any more than anyone else, from what it sounds like [12:22] http://nixos.org/nixos/screenshots/nixos-grub.png <-- this makes me pretty nervous, though [12:23] heh [12:23] whats with alll the configs? [12:23] compl3x: auto-generated based on system "state" [12:23] so you can rollback by selecting a previous one [12:23] heh thats stupid [12:23] however... that's not what i want my boot manager to be in charge of [12:24] nice idea but it will use a *lot* of space, actually you won't be able to recover space by removing package (except if they do garbage collection which I don't think they do since they allow you to rollback) [12:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-229-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:24] they do garbage collection [12:24] siIvia_ (i=pinuspin@41.236.14.77) left irc: Success [12:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-229-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] but it's clearly not very aggressive [12:25] (if they were smart they'd use some sort of git-like thing to help keep the space down) [12:25] (but i'm not sure they're that smart/that sort of thing is practical/in line with their theory) [12:25] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.2.249) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] oh well, i've got a bunch of spare hard drives [12:27] can't be worse than ubuntu [12:27] (well, i mean, it COULD...) [12:27] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [12:27] What's so bad about ubuntu? [12:27] if something goes wrong [12:28] you are EFFED [12:28] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) joined ##slackware. [12:28] whats so bad :| [12:28] ./usr/bin/anti-ubuntu-flamewar.sh [12:28] hehe [12:28] i'm just frustrated :( [12:28] been trying to get sound to work in ubuntu [12:28] LOL ! [12:28] haha [12:29] i mean, among other things [12:29] but yeah [12:30] I've never touched ubuntu [12:30] there are some really nice parts [12:30] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.57) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Zozma: Just remove your sound card or disable it in BIOS. Then you wont even have to worry about getting it to work. [12:33] agentc0re|work: funny, that's what the Ubuntu IRC said too :) [12:33] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [12:33] nice parts about ubuntu, for instance: [12:34] fire up synaptic, click "install" on the kubuntu package [12:34] and bam, now you have kde [12:35] like magic! [12:35] yes! [12:35] if I rsync kde/, and run 'installpkg kde/*.tgz', I'd have it too [12:35] :P [12:35] ubuntu is useful (but, really, thinking you are l33t 'cause you use ubuntu is sort of like an outfielder saying he can pitch) [12:35] that was probably a bad example [12:36] install slackware-select kwin-bam now you have kde [12:36] I wonder what a good analogy would be for folks who think they are l33t because they do not use ubuntu [12:36] i was GOING to say updating updating the kernel [12:36] (instead of kde) [12:36] but that would have been worse [12:36] A peanut vendor who says he doesn't use chewing tobacco? [12:37] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] can we stop talking about ubuntu - actually make me sick lol- plus kind of ruins the idea of coming to the slackware channel doesn't it? [12:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] hehe, fair enough [12:37] thankyou [= [12:37] Nick change: eviljame1 -> eviljames [12:38] eviljames :) [12:38] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] howwdy [12:38] yo. [12:39] oh god - my girlfriend add simple plan to my music [12:39] so now xmms on rand seems to pick it up first :/ - kill me [12:39] ditch the gf? [12:39] haha :p [12:39] na just delete all her precious shitty music [= [12:40] she'll then ditch you :P [12:40] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hehe [12:40] my computer -... yeah she would rofl [12:41] 10:39:45 up 17 days, 12:10 <---- this is quite momentous for me :D [12:41] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:41] you can't really update the kernel in ubuntu [12:41] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-30-12.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] can't have it on that long - the sound of fans whilst having sex really isn't my thing [12:41] and if you want something really annoying : the different repos [12:42] Camarade_Tux: well, you can go from one of their generic kernels to another one of their generic kernels really easily [12:42] but yeah [12:42] nooper_ (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] minor versions :) [12:42] but let's be nice with compl3x [12:42] this isnt #ubunut [12:42] yes [12:43] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left irc: "Saliendo" [12:43] hi eviljames, did you get your eviljames.net domain ? [12:43] Camarade_Tux: That made now sense :p [12:43] no* [12:44] I was referring to you asking us not to talk about boobuntu, or did I fscked the grammar ? [12:44] ah kind of makes sense now :p [12:45] Silvie_ (i=cecile26@41.236.13.109) left irc: No route to host [12:45] nooper_ (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:45] Dadsy (n=Dad`@ip-161.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Dadsy (n=Dad`@ip-161.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:46] http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/71793-firefox_nebula_1920_1200.jpg [12:46] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] toastytoast: I like :p [12:46] i thought it looked cool when i found it [12:47] I dont like the stars [12:47] would get annoying [12:47] hey pretty nice, make it 4096x1152 for me NOW! [12:47] i supose yes but it still looks cool [12:47] antler: What you running? o.0 [12:47] shiny [12:48] compl3x: dual 23" samsungs at 2048x1152 native each [12:48] :P [12:48] firefox sucks :) [12:48] goatdog (n=goatdog@tn-76-7-112-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] I have a 52inch panasonic plasma - a 19 inch samsung lcd and a 17 inch gnr - can't be arsed to hook up my tv tho.. [12:48] anyway, my preferred wallpaper is a black one :) [12:49] i have a picture of Saturn [12:49] it's nice [12:49] this samsung is aight - but i hate LCD's [12:49] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [12:49] just don't get the right colors [12:49] 52"....nice.... [12:50] nooper (n=nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:50] antler: its wall mounted to my right - wish my gtx 260 had hdmi output - id hook it up then. [12:50] http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/xerodill/lolipenguin.png?t=1241801420 <- a 1024x768 of the one i currently have a bg [12:50] compl3x: is it capable of blu ray res? [12:50] kama (n=kama@87.19.132.173) joined ##slackware. [12:51] antler: not sure [12:51] hey do you guys think xterm will ever support transparency? [12:51] its a couple years old now [12:51] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] toastytoast: use Eterm :D :p [12:52] i prefered aterm persoanlly [12:52] toastytoast: that last bg doesn't make any sense :P [12:52] compl3x: no DVI -> HDMI adapter? [12:52] you're right but w/e [12:52] unless that was what you were going for, then it's ok :P [12:52] i thought liked it becasue of the cute anime girl in the corner [12:52] Zoma: Got one - just would like HDMI output for ease :p [12:53] mostly [12:53] Is there a way to rename bash sessions in screen? so when you do C-a " it wont just say bash for all the sessions? [12:53] ah, fair enough [12:53] toastytoast: hahah yeah, but then there's that little penguin under her butt :D [12:53] yeah that too [12:53] kama (n=kama@87.19.132.173) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:54] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:54] http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/xerodill/desktop.jpg?t=1241801618 <- that one might make a little more sense but prolly not [12:54] fluxbox :) [12:55] yep [12:55] znuzing (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:55] only thin i ever use unless i'm forced to use somethin else [12:55] gschenkel (n=gschenke@189.58.195.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:55] i wonder if anyone has a bg with just a super closeup of a vagina [12:56] antler: I'm sure someone does. :P [12:56] prolly some one some where [12:56] Action: antler looks through firebird619 's collection of closeups [12:56] haha [12:57] antler: Why don't you go make your own? :D [12:57] gschenkel (n=gschenke@189.58.195.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:58] eh? don't wanna share the goods, eh? :P [12:58] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Connection timed out [12:58] :P [12:59] http://graphics-monkey.co.uk/sc.jpg [12:59] In this context, I am NOT clicking that link. [12:59] hah [13:00] xchat? [13:00] schenkel (n=schenkel@189.58.195.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:00] i prefer irssi [13:00] hey, I thought that would be a vagina close-up ! ='( [13:00] all those screenshots are ulgy. [13:00] irssi is the best irc client ever [13:00] toastytoast: I was using irsii but cleared the settings and haven't had time to set it up again [13:00] i see [13:02] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@YMKDCCXXXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:03] schenkel (n=schenkel@189.58.195.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:04] stillborn (n=blow_my_@KMMCMIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:09] alicephilippa (n=alice@89.194.2.178) joined ##slackware. [13:09] schenkel (n=schenkel@189.58.193.47.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:12] klotz (n=a@g225098001.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Jean (n=jean@93-36-227-134.ip62.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:15] comp_ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) joined ##slackware. [13:17] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [13:17] im going to add this chan to my ajoin list [13:17] yay [13:17] thats great. [13:17] even thought i use ubuntu [13:17] :P [13:17] :< [13:17] *crys* [13:17] i'm going to add that to my list of things i care little about :) [13:18] I'll forget I read that. [13:18] Why why why use ubuntu ]= [13:18] compl3x: cause i haven't tried slackware yet [13:18] :P [13:19] ... [13:19] last time i used slackware it was commplicated [13:19] oh god [13:19] slackware 10 i think or 9 [13:19] macman_: what was complicated? [13:19] or maybe i just didn't know how to use it [13:19] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) joined ##slackware. [13:19] firebird619: i forgot .. been like 10 years [13:20] macman_: well go try it *now*. :) [13:20] back in teh redhat days [13:20] hey compl3x. [13:20] Hi lf4. [13:20] hey firebird169: sup? [13:20] Hey firebird619 :) [13:20] lf4: how's it going? [13:20] what package manager does slackware use ? [13:20] compl3x: how are you? [13:20] macman_: slackware is simple now :) [13:20] firebird169: not bad thanks, yourself? [13:20] compl3x: doing great, thanks. [13:20] awesome [13:21] what package manager does slackware use ? [13:21] firebird619: It's going well just at work lol but I'm reading about NANP numbers I want to pick a nice number for the Blackberry Storm I might be getting. [13:21] There are a few different tools. [13:21] Action: compl3x wishes there was tab completion on irc member names :p [13:21] firebird619: What are you up to? [13:21] compl3x: there is. [13:21] slackware uses pkgtools [13:21] macman_: I advocate using pkgtools and your brain to manage packages, others disagree with me. [13:21] firebird619: o - m - f -g :p *pleease* :p [13:21] pleaased* [13:21] lf4: not to much, kind of a dreary day today, looks like it could rain. [13:21] pkgtools is the only official way to manage your packages [13:21] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:22] compl3x: I tab complete everything... why can't you do it with names? [13:22] anything else should make use of pkgtools, not replace its functionality [13:22] Ahh i see... the sun is out here but i'm stuck inside. [13:22] eviljames: I can :p just never realised :p [13:22] compl3x: :P [13:23] eviljames: or lf4 there a live cd ? [13:23] :| [13:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fe08233d51e24fad) left irc: [13:23] macman_: no but you could try slax [13:23] macman_: no, not of slackware. [13:23] Ubuntu users aye ;) -- o/j [13:23] 0_o [13:24] macman_: Slax is a live cd based on slackware iirc. [13:24] wow [13:25] slackware 12.2 .. when was 10 out [13:25] couple years back [13:25] it isnt entirely based on slackware [13:25] slax is only vaguely based on slackware, so it's not a direct livecd. [13:25] BP{k}: that is true [13:25] macman_: http://www.jeepster.org.uk/history.html [13:26] Hey BP{k}. How's it going? [13:26] firebird619: not too bad. [13:26] but but...it starts with sla!? [13:26] Action: BP{k} slaps chopp [13:26] that starts with 'sla' as well ;) [13:26] haha [13:26] lol [13:26] lol [13:27] firebird619: how are you? [13:27] macman_: there is no package management. grab the dvd, install all package series except kde,kdei, and then go to slackbuilds.org for the missing pieces. [13:27] uh.. [13:27] BP{k}: doing great, thank you. :) [13:27] Slackware has package management [13:27] klotz: uh... wrong. [13:27] what would be a fun number for the area code 801 that is provided by verizon? :P [13:27] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:27] klotz: That's not quite accurate, there are tools to manage packages. [13:27] klotz: fail. [13:27] klotz: of course Slackware has package management! [13:27] lolz [13:27] klotz: revise your definition of package management to a correct one, please. [13:27] hey so ubuntu makes paritions for you .. what do you recommend .. paritioning o yoru own a /boot / swap and home ? [13:28] I have a swap and root partition - i was too lazy to make any other [13:28] macman_: slackware will also make patitions but you just get to specify them more then clicking "Next" [13:28] compl3x: me too :) [13:28] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:28] macman_: I use one for /, one for swap, and one for /home [13:28] :) [13:28] I hate things being all over the place ( i like one partition ) [13:29] So have one partition [13:29] I do [= [13:29] compl3x: you have two partitions ;) / and /swap [13:29] vastina (n=vastina@c-76-25-163-62.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:29] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] lf4: Yeah I know ;) I didn't count it cause its just swap partition / i was talking about root and home etc :) [13:29] wtf is /swap? [13:30] haha yeah I know just messing with you compl3x [13:30] i a swap one one for /boot one for / a lvm for /usr a lvm for /var and a lvm for /home [13:30] straterra: custom directory where one can stor swwapfiles? [13:30] lf4: its been a long week -stop it ]= :p [13:31] unless you know what you're doing, stick to one big / [13:31] Oh sorry to hear... compl3x you having 8 days week. :) [13:31] Anyone care to share an advantages of different partitions for /home / boot etc? [13:31] lf4: friday is the end of the week for me :p [13:31] i supose but i mean by haveing seperate partions it can make the system more stable [13:32] hmm [13:32] not really [13:32] compl3x: nice so its over :) my week is tuesday-saturday :P [13:32] if you fill up you're /home and it's a seprate from your / and /boot you won't get a kernel panic [13:33] toastytoast: thats not really making it more stable. [13:33] when i had an older machine with a 10gb hdd [13:33] i filled it up and got a kernel panic [13:33] lf4: unlucky:) [13:33] also, if you have a full /, your kernel wont panic. [13:33] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:33] where can i get the slackware 12.2 iso .. i want the smallest one so i can do a net install [13:33] hmm it happend to me once [13:33] Action: toastytoast shrugs [13:33] I have a 500gb harddrive I use for nothing really - so doesn't bother me [13:33] toastytoast: once = always [13:33] apparently. [13:33] fail XD [13:33] compl3x: Yeah and whats worse is swing shift(13-00:00) :P [13:34] macman_: http://slackware.com/getslack/ ? [13:34] lf4: ouch [13:34] /dev/sda3 399G 313G 87G 79% /home [13:34] well now it's a force of habbit i started doing it since it happend to me [13:34] I have no idea what takes up 300+ gigs [13:34] compl3x: yeah I'm a little upset about it but I monitor the servers for att.com [13:34] BP{k}: witch one ? [13:35] i have a 2tb array, so space isnt really an issue for me anymore. [13:35] nice spook [13:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ < -- BP{k} those are only .iso.asc and .iso.md5 files there [13:35] whats nicer is using stuff like nbd and lvm together [13:35] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] lf4: You manage at&t's servers? [13:35] grow your local hdd using remote storage [13:36] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] monitor* [13:36] compl3x: I monitor them but I work with those that manage them. [13:36] lf4: wow [= [13:36] macman_: I am not a witch :P [13:37] It's a job lol not really one I'm excited about so I'm looking for other things as well. [13:37] schenkel (n=schenkel@189.58.193.47.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:37] BP{k}: you're a witch! burn him [13:37] huh [13:37] Action: BP{k} turns spook into a newt [13:37] what iso should i download from that website ? [13:37] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] macman_: ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ [13:38] Action: spook arms the orbital witch cannons [13:38] finnally - I officially hate lcd tv's [13:39] sheesh .. BP{k} how many disk do i need ? [13:39] compl3x: how come? [13:39] macman_: depends what you want to install. [13:39] lf4: Just spent an hour trying to get this lcd tv to look "right" - ie: color temprature - backlight contrast etc - [13:40] BP{k}: i want to instlal gnome with a net install [13:40] Oh how fun..... :) [13:40] macman_: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php <-- tells you what is on what CD. You most likely don't need cd 4-6 (as they are source cd's) [13:40] macman: If you want gnome I suggest you get slackware 12.1 and look at dropline [13:40] macman_: Slackware doesn't come with gnome. [13:40] macman_: theres no gnome in slackware. [13:40] kernel.org may consider putting slackware! i spoke to them [13:40] jeev: \o/ [13:41] yiup uyp [13:41] jeev: Good work! [13:41] thanks [13:41] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [13:41] they're gonna clear up space and consider it [13:41] jeev: I've always wondered why the Slackware discs aren't on kernel.org, it is the oldest surviving distro after all... [13:41] yea [13:41] whose seeding :P [13:41] lack of interest was their main issue i think [13:41] xfce is the best who wants gnome or kde? [13:42] lol lack of interest [13:42] Action: eviljames wants kde [13:42] lf4: me. [13:42] jeev: John has been in contact with us [13:42] do they have distros on kernel.org? [13:42] yes [13:42] yea. i spoke to him [13:42] BP{k}: lol [13:42] ;) [13:42] Action: compl3x needs cheap tobacco :| [13:42] Action: lf4 gives compl3x some bark off the tree outside. [13:42] Action: eviljames had cheap tobacco yesterday... today I feel like poo. [13:43] lf4: cheers mate :p [13:43] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:43] by cheap I mean duty free or anything cheaper than buying it from a bloody shop [13:43] macman_: you'll need CD[12] at the minium. Please note that "net installs" are generally meant for *local* mirrors. [13:43] lol wow eviljames good luck with that one. [13:43] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Anyone going to warn him that if hes getting 12.2 he wont have much luck with gnome? [13:44] lf4: I'm a quitter. I stopped smoking as a new year's resolution, but have broken once or twice while drinking. [13:44] lf4: But I blame the headache on the tobacco :P [13:44] haha i see.. wel thats good you gave that up sorta :) [13:44] Meh - I don't even try to quit- never gets me anywhere but feeling even worse about myself for quitting on quitting :p [13:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] s/wel/well/ [13:44] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [13:45] wish I never started tbh [13:46] Action: lf4 never drank or smoked :) [13:46] honestly? [13:46] in your life? [13:46] yep [13:46] O_O [13:47] i drink a lot, but never smoked [13:47] if you don't mind me asking - how old are you? [13:47] 23 [13:47] spook++ [13:47] whoa [13:47] lf4: :| [13:47] I turn 24 this year [13:47] Action: BP{k} drinks, has smoked. but quit :) [13:47] and by a lot, i mean A LOT [13:47] lf4: Live a little man :P [13:47] lf4: gotta live it up a little [13:47] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] I drink and smoke - but not so much drink nowadays [13:47] lf4: i feel old .. i turn 30 in Decmeber [13:47] lol na I rather do other things then that. [13:47] Action: eviljames drinks, quit smoking tobacc, regularly smokes crack. [13:47] spook-- then ;p [13:47] eviljames: o_O [13:47] macman_: I have friends that age. [13:48] eviljames, bad ! [13:48] Smoking crack but not tobacco nice style eviljames rofl [13:49] crack is bahaaad [13:49] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] Camarade_Tux: but i'm drinking right now [13:49] heh some people are taking the crack comment a little *too* seriously. [13:49] http://www.letslearnlinux.com/suseblog/2008-01-18/dr_evil.jpg lol [13:49] Action: eviljames needs to whiskey up his coffee brb [13:49] :p [13:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:49] What would be a good number after 801-701-xxxx? [13:49] i whiskey up my scotch [13:49] lf4: 8701 [13:49] and scotch up my rum [13:49] nice eviljames lol I'll check that one out. [13:50] spook: You better heroin up your cornflakes.. [13:50] comp_ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:50] you just made a palindrome! [13:50] spook, actually, I don't drink that much but that's only because I'd have to buy alcohol more often >< [13:50] i dont heroin or cornflakes [13:51] cornflakes! You guys are crazy- stuff will kill you quick [13:51] you can put cocaine on your cornflakes :) [13:51] eww heroin, when smoked, smells of burnt rubber [13:51] never smelt it.. [13:51] alicephilippa (n=alice@89.194.2.178) left irc: Connection timed out [13:52] compl3x: only poked it? :P [13:53] lol [13:53] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:54] compl3x: k, this is the only time I'll advocate quitting to you, because I used to HATE when people would tell me to quit. [13:54] compl3x: but you should. Food tastes better, your sense of smell comes back, and walking up staircases isn't a gruelling experience. [13:54] I used to love food, now I really love food! [13:54] wow..see what happens when we get some dude in here that needs his hand held to even download the .iso, the topic turns to heroin, and crack. :P [13:55] and you ******* harder [13:55] eviljames: you quit smoking? [13:55] eviljames: Nice to hear it from an ex-smoker - wouldn't mind my sense of smell back : [13:55] :P* [13:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] chopp: hahah [13:55] antler: new year's resolution. [13:55] eviljames: weed? [13:55] antler: oh, no. Never. [13:55] lol [13:55] quit smoking, spend your extra money on booze [13:55] spook: That's precisely what I did, actually. [13:56] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:56] eviljames: cold turkey, or did you gradually do it? [13:56] I remember someone complaining bitterly about people who complained about cigarette smoke. [13:56] err, wait, I spent the extra on computer gear. [13:56] my other addiction.. [13:56] pi31415: It was probably me. :D [13:56] go camping in the woods [13:56] antler: cold turkey. Other methods don't work. [13:56] Action: compl3x wouldn't mind a new hardrive ;/ [13:56] Action: Camarade_Tux is still looking for 2x16GB ram =) [13:56] eviljames: have you noticed an increase in weight? [13:56] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-0-52.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] heh, I have trouble using up 1gb RAM let along 32gb [13:57] antler: Well, 2009 is my "year of health" so I'm definitely increasing my weight. [13:57] same here pi31415. i mustbe doing something wrong because i'm perfectly content with my 1.5GB of ram [13:57] i have about 8gb between my machines, and only use about half [13:57] using 32GB is much easier than using 1GB : you just use your ram as a hard drive :) [13:57] but I'm not that heavy to begin with.. I've started going to the gym and exercising, eating better (try to avoid mcGarbage if I can) and not smoking cigs anymore. [13:58] pi31415: Camarade_Tux needs it to calculate the origin of alpha centauri [13:58] the only time i wanted more ram was when i was doing some textual processing on the whole wikipedia dataset [13:58] phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:58] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] eviljames: well, good job :P [13:58] nearly the same here : I sometimes work on huge datasets :) [13:58] I even bought a bike. One with pedals! [13:58] i think i need to quit as well [13:59] hmm im considering it [13:59] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.224.123) joined ##slackware. [13:59] did i stumble into #smokersanonymous? :P [13:59] k, my last advocation: Cold Turkey and SUFFER. [13:59] Blaguvest (n=chatzill@c-28a072d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:59] eviljames: and a pink basket attached to the front of the handle bars? [13:59] antler: Uh, the whole thing is pink. It's not a basket, it's a flower pot. [13:59] eviljames: i don't want to suffer - ]= :p [13:59] amazon10x, no, #smokers_drinkers_crackers_heroinomans_unanonymous ;) [13:59] amazon10x: Yes yes you did [13:59] the only thing you might need 32gb for is a) running vista b) compiling emacs [14:00] Camarade_Tux: aka #eviljames'_addictions [14:00] compiling qt [14:00] spook, /me is running win7 x64 right now... [14:00] phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) left ##slackware. [14:00] Camarade_Tux: you mean, you're wasting your time [14:00] i want to reinstall windows on my netbook. does anyone know if win7 can easily be installed via usb? [14:00] compl3x: After I suffered for a week the cravings went down.. now I'm into habit breaking. You know, get to the bus stop, light a cig. Sit down in the car, light a cig. etc.. [14:00] eviljames, he, there's nobody on this channel >< [14:00] eviljames: the ones out of bordem? :p [14:01] boredom* [14:01] spook, actually I'm setting gcc, uwin, msys, and right now I have bash and csh opened [14:01] compl3x: That is BY FAR the hardest part, imho. Sitting at home, bored on the couch w/ lappy and a beer w/o a cig was torturous at first. [14:01] Camarade_Tux: i've notcied i do that with windows. i turn it into as *nix a system as i can lol [14:01] eviljames: thats the bit I don't want - and what will I do after sex :|:| [14:01] compl3x: and I'm still not quite through breaking that habit.. soon maybe. [14:01] Post-Coital cigar, DUH [14:02] haha [14:02] compl3x, lollypops ! [14:02] srs question: how/why did you start smoking? [14:02] Boredom ironically I guess [14:02] I started when I was 12, all the cool kids were doing it or something. [14:02] Maybe 14, actually... [14:02] sounds about right :p [14:02] john_dee (n=id@92.252.167.243) left irc: "link closed" [14:03] Then I quit in high school, and started again shortly thereafter because I realized I really like it. [14:03] the shitty thing is - the longer you smoke the harder it gets [14:03] Even now, I smoke cigars occasionally because I truly enjoy smoking.. I don't even know if that qualifies as sad. [14:03] somedays i don't feel like it but still crack [14:03] I am so proud of all of you now if you would only join myshrinkteam.com so I could get a commission on your suffering ;> [14:04] gem_cat: what's this thing you're spamming now? [14:04] chupa chups ad : http://www.pubzagogo.com/Vision_ChupaChups_PlaisirSucer_Fille.html (the end reads "the pleasure to suck") [14:05] hahahah nice [14:05] I have lost 25 pounds since last Christmas, due in part to loss of income but also to my diet products which I had in stock [14:05] Zozma_ (n=Winter@98-125-96-253.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] She likes to suck - wwaay :/ [14:05] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [14:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:07] never leave a root terminal open when trying to explain to someone over msn how to format a hardrive... stupid window focus nearly killed me [14:07] hahaha [14:07] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [14:07] I forgot most of you would never see such ads : http://horsducommun.net/2009/01/10/chupa-chups-lego-et-les-adultes-ou-les-hommes/ ;) [14:07] compl3x: ... [14:07] eviljames, you only have so much lung tissue so spend it as you choose [14:07] (ads for lego and chupa chups, ads for ... kids ?) [14:08] lego sex- no thanks .. *thinks* [14:09] actually, eviljames, I have never smoked but lost part of my lung capacity to industrial fumes so you really cant win [14:10] http://style.popcrunch.com/support-your-breasts-while-you-sleep/ [14:10] gem_cat: yowsa.. I don't want to be in the whole 'industrial' industry for that kind of purpose. I used to live near the dirty Alberta oil fields, know lots of people hurt on the rigs. [14:10] gem_cat: and I'd rather expend my lung tissue on canniboids :P [14:11] :p [14:11] that stuff accumulates in the brain as well eviljames [14:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:12] It's ok, I need to decrease my cognitive function in order to relate to 'average folks' [14:12] does anyone know how to setup another X server and switch between one and another through ctrl alt F7-F8? [14:13] pupit: easily. [14:13] pupit: Don't log out, use the switch user or whatever is provided by your DE [14:13] eviljames: could u point me to some how-to? [14:13] If you're in runlevel 4, that is. [14:14] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] just remember eviljames, if you have kids they will not be average ;) [14:14] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [14:14] My poor children are going to have tough childhoods, as probably many of the people here (myself included) did. [14:14] i log into X by typing in console, startx.. i think its runlevel 3?... [14:15] pupit: ahh, it's easier in runlevel 4 [14:15] i dont like 4 [14:15] :) [14:15] pupit: If you telinit 4 and use kdm to manage your sessions it is easy [14:15] Action: compl3x uses 3 but on other pc 4 with slim :p [14:15] remind of mS [14:16] pupit: you're actually asking how to have two instances of X running at the same time right? [14:16] I decided to install another slack box - it is telling me kde is corrupt [14:16] antiwire: yes! :) [14:16] you just run the second instance on a different virtual screen.... [14:16] how? [14:16] i don't know how kdm comes into this.... [14:16] I dont ues kde but suspect this hd may have a bad spot [14:16] pupit: man X [14:16] Zozma (n=Winter@d6-97.rb2.gh.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] i found some of that from: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.redhat.xfree86/2003-12/msg00030.html but i dont understand a thit about it.. [14:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] and some on this: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Twinview_Example [14:18] pupit: usually, you'd have two USB mice for this type of setup...so two+ people could use the same powerful system with X running independently [14:18] twin view is not the solution for your question. [14:18] antiwire: I was suggesting that it is the method by which what he wants to do is most easily achieved. [14:19] antiwire: my mistake, see second link.. [14:19] eviljames: how is that? he is asking for two instances of X..not two logged in users with the same instance... [14:19] antiwire: thats right [14:20] antiwire: Then I misread his query :D [14:20] eviljames: nevermind, relax.. :) [14:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:20] pupit: traditionally, this would be done with a full set of peripherals + videocard for each instances...2 mice, 2 keyboards, 2 videocards, 2 monitors [14:20] this is most relevant what i have found: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=4b862ab58dbc9f58038e861de832202d&p=1429148&postcount=8 [14:21] antiwire: cant i just run another instance of X? [14:21] pupit: stop and think about that for a second [14:21] can* [14:22] just start another x on a different vt [14:22] do you plan to have two users at the same time? [14:22] vm it? [14:22] think about this.... [14:22] ok forget it. [14:22] pupit: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html [14:23] alienBOB: my savior! [14:23] alienBOB to the rescue once again [= [14:24] multi-pointer x is cool [14:24] wish i had time to set it up [14:25] hey alienBOB [14:25] you know that usb installer thing you made? [14:25] thanks antiwire eviljames anyway :) [14:26] hey ..does anyone know a lot about the 'CLOUD' computing model implementations? [14:26] errordeveloper: is "CLOUD" some specific technology? [14:26] no it's a buzz word for Internet and software as service... [14:26] i don't really quite get it .. [14:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing [14:27] so what they are saying is that they want to use user's client machine resources .. [14:27] like store the data on some users laptop and such? ..hm [14:28] rizitis_ (n=rizitis@88.218.224.165) joined ##slackware. [14:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] rizitis_ (n=rizitis@88.218.224.165) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] toastytoast (n=toast@72.224.240.11) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:30] Action: compl3x wishes web 2.0 would go crawl in a hole and die. [14:30] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.57) left irc: Connection timed out [14:30] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Success [14:30] umm web 2.0 is nothing but a buzz word for shiny icons and rounded corners [14:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] I know and im starting to slowly hate it XD [14:31] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-43.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:31] They have colors like "Gmail blue" "Mozilla Red" "Digg Blue" [14:32] mmm shiny icons [14:33] isn't it unrelieble? and unsecure? [14:33] and then that what if that 'scaled' data is lost due to user's machine falure?? [14:33] ..hm, may be i'm not getting it right [14:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] antler: I suffer from ADOS--Attention Deficit...Ooohh, shiny! [14:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:34] lee555J5: hahah me too [14:35] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:37] well --- i have a new system - broken kde is a bit unsettling but someday I will replace this hd anyway (if that is the culprit) [14:38] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [14:38] nooper (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] "someday, you'll be shedding your tears, to cry over me. someday..." --glass tiger pft.. [14:39] I am going to try duplicating my error which should tell me something, the state of my ignorance hopefully [14:40] twolf: hey welcome to the slackware folding@home team. :P [14:41] chopp: thanks! [14:42] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:44] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:44] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [14:44] now tell phrag to change that freakin logo. ;) [14:45] merp (n=merp@182.sub-75-216-110.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:45] the torrents are pretty fast heh [14:45] i'm downloading to seed [14:48] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:49] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [14:50] i dunno what to seed those [14:50] d1 and dvd? [14:51] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:53] well most people want kde, so I'd include d2 and d3 [14:53] ahh [14:54] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] paissad (n=paissad@224.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [14:59] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [15:00] lol : http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ [15:01] Does anyone here know which package contains /usr/bin/locale ? [15:02] Dillizar (n=Elive_us@77.28.17.70) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-171-172-153.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [15:02] wolven: grep bin/locale /var/log/packages/* [15:02] hey [15:02] thrice`, thanks [15:02] lsusb doesnt work on slackware [15:02] why not? [15:02] dunno [15:02] what makes you think it doesn't work ? [15:02] command not found [15:02] :D [15:02] /sbin/lsusb ? [15:03] glibc thanks again thrice` =) [15:03] wolven: sure [15:03] lol with root works :) [15:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Dillizar: because /sbin isn't in your users PATH. run it with /sbin/lsusb if you want it as user [15:04] Dillizar: /sbin isn't on your path which is why it only works for root [15:04] how can i mount my usb doesnt want [15:04] guys [15:04] im downloading the iso right i have this Seeders 4(10) < -- what does this mean ? [15:04] Dillizar: can you rephrase the question, I didn't understand [15:05] i have a usb i can see it with lsusb but i dont know how to mount it [15:05] like a normal hard disk [15:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [15:06] yes [15:06] if its possible [15:06] oh it is [15:06] comment [15:07] how [15:07] are you in kde or xfce ? [15:07] lol [15:07] on wmv [15:07] or smt like that [15:08] wmv ? [15:08] Dillizar: you know how to abbreviate something into smt but you can barely carry on a conversation? I call bullshit [15:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:08] wha [15:09] hrm... methinks it is time to start typing /ignore [15:09] yeah [15:10] Maybe not though... Dillizar you are lookign to mount your usb drive.. does dmesg provide you with the information you need? [15:10] what msg [15:11] i am using JWM yeah i found it [15:11] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [15:11] you're not on slackware then [15:11] vector [15:12] slackware doesn't ship jwm, and you don't seem to have the understanding to install it yourself [15:12] but its slackware [15:12] No , it's not. [15:12] Unless it was installed off a Slackware disc, it's not Slackware. [15:12] i bet he's running vector [15:12] Slackware is Slackware. Vector is not Slackware. [15:12] shh, he confuses easily :> [15:12] just liek ubuntu is not debian?? [15:12] here we go [15:12] :D [15:13] Like !Slackware is not Slackware. It's that simple. [15:13] and i can install JWM [15:13] :P [15:13] Then do it. Future support issues should be directed to the appropriate support fora. [15:13] kewl :) [15:14] can slackware use rpm [15:14] http://slackbook.org [15:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:15] who hired the clown for this party? I want my money back! [15:15] http://tinyurl.com/63x7jg [15:16] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [15:17] rworkman: ping [15:17] Dillizar (n=Elive_us@77.28.17.70) left ##slackware ("I e Elive"). [15:17] antiwire: quite. [15:17] necropresto: pong [15:17] rworkman: i've a problem with ndiswapper slackbuild [15:18] It does not compile on 2.6.29? [15:18] rworkman: yeah [15:18] people know ther eis a #slackbuilds channel right...? [15:18] I have a patch for that in my repository necropresto [15:19] Dominian: I was not aware of that. [15:19] eviljames: hehe [15:19] you're aware now :P [15:19] alienBOB: url? [15:19] Dominian: nor was i [15:19] necropresto: yeah, check Eric's repo [15:19] Everyone is aware now! :) [15:19] hey alienBOB, you made the usb installer, right? [15:20] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:20] chris punches isnt aware [15:20] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:21] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ndiswrapper/build/ndiswrapper_kernel_2.6.29.patch [15:21] amazon10x: yes [15:21] alienBOB: thanks [15:23] alienBOB: oh, well, thanks. i just used it to setup my system again [15:26] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [15:29] is there an x frontend for getmntent etc? [15:30] (yeah I know Im lazy) [15:30] cat /etc/fstab ? [15:31] new man says to use the utility (I used to edit fstab) [15:31] There's a utility? [15:31] hrm. [15:32] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] I cant blame slack for stumbling on my old junk but how can it install off my cd then loose it? [15:35] Perhaps the cd has changed, not lost [15:36] yes it thinks 'cd' is my cdrw in the next bay [15:36] cdrom [15:38] the cdrom entry in fstab had a # in front and when I removed it it found the cdrw drive [15:38] but not the cdrom in the top bay [15:39] i suppose the question is what is it called in /dev? [15:41] i think i can fix this - i just hate to start a new system with a kludge [15:43] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [15:45] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [15:45] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[15:53] ok [15:53] antiwire: heh, this article is great. [15:56] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [15:56] mmmmmm. smells like someone is grilling outside [15:56] i like this line the best ""It's not rocket science. I could probably take somebody who is 14 or 15 years old and in a day have them doing this."" [15:57] or a 10 year old [16:00] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) joined ##slackware. [16:00] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [16:00] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:01] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.90.211) left irc: Connection timed out [16:04] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] my changes seem to have taken agentc0re [16:05] Ricky| (n=fl0w@190.166.118.30) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Action: Shingoshi listens to http://www.swissgrove.ch. Miles Davis. Yum! [16:06] Hi all! [16:08] I am symlinking thdocs to my /home/bob and chown to world writable - is that reasonable? [16:09] (so bob can write web documents) [16:09] you mean chmod? ;) [16:10] well i use mc [16:10] gem_cat: Speaking for myself, I'm a bit weary of anything that is world writable unless it is absolutely required [16:11] bojevnik (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:11] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [16:12] I messed up something in my install that i have struggled 6 weeks to find so am being paranoid but yes I could make it group writable for either user or apache [16:12] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:13] I will make group writable for apache and add bob to that group - will that do what I expect? [16:15] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Connection timed out [16:18] ivan8013__ (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) joined ##slackware. [16:18] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:18] ivan8013__ (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:18] hmm what is /etc/group- ? [16:20] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) joined ##slackware. [16:21] anyway if its wrong I can either change it or do it over :/ [16:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("mIRC"). [16:26] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:26] the first of this project I symlinked a dir undre my user from document root - I dont know if that was my failier but I know if the symlink is above then apache cannot see it at all [16:28] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:34] wife is yelling, gotta see what she wants [16:34] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] i've long forgotten my slackware account >.> [16:35] heh [16:35] yelling wives [16:36] monstro (i=1000@189.111.21.41) joined ##slackware. [16:37] hahaha http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/08/1858226&from=rss [16:38] it's spyware [16:40] necropresto (n=necropre@unaffiliated/necropresto) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:40] windows becomes spyware... news at 10 [16:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] winter_ (n=winter@98-125-96-253.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:42] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.108.21) joined ##slackware. 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[16:47] Hello [16:47] 3 minutes of work [16:48] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: [16:48] I will most likely kepp it command line, which will force me to learn the commands [16:49] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [16:49] I will most likely keep it command line, which will force me to learn the commands [16:49] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [16:51] monstro (i=1000@189.111.21.41) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:51] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] I had to learn that way [16:52] computer didnt have internet or enough memory, etc to run X really [16:52] it eventualy ran fluxbox [16:53] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) left ##slackware. [16:54] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [16:55] lns40 (n=snL20@90.149.203.34) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Yea all I want is a command line system so that i can learn the ways of a true linux guru [16:57] Cryptic_1onkey: you plan on using this as your main system? [16:57] http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wcbs/img/flyover.jpg Obama's flyover NYC [16:58] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] amazon10x: No my laptop is my main system due to the portability factor [16:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] Cryptic_1onkey: why not run slack on your laptop? [16:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:59] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:01] amazon10x: No out of the box support for ext4m and my Broadcom Cirperation BCM 4312 wifi card somi would rather rly on ubuntu jaunty for my quasi every dayu system [17:01] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] -current supports ext4 and doesn't the bcm 4312 use the b43 driver? i've used b43 in the past and it's pretty easy to setup [17:01] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@office.sephone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:02] you'd probably learn more about linux if you put it on that laptop so that you're using it all the time. just a tip :) [17:02] All I really want is a machine for eamil and command line web browsinf capability [17:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:03] What packages are on the first cd? [17:03] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-138-100.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] the good ones :D [17:04] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-43.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] zmyrgel (n=user@80.221.6.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] Does that include xwindows system Pig_Pen ? [17:04] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-138-100.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:05] 30 seconds in the channel.. and once again, the best contribution i can possibly make is to shout RTFM at someone till i shit through my hair [17:05] no, no X, no xapps no kde, [17:05] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Zordrak: in his defense, i have a few times tried to find that info and it always take me forever [17:06] ok [17:06] who the hell even pulls the CDs these days? It's not as if you even need to burn anything to install [17:07] yes becoming "a true linux geru" as he stated, might be fairly difficult without the ability to research and read. :P [17:07] pull the DVD, choose your installation type and off you go [17:07] Cryptic_1onkey: seems you never installed slackware, you ask the questions only a virginal noob would ask [17:07] yeah, i just use the usb installer [17:07] grab the packages via ftp [17:07] amazon10x: *nod* [17:07] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-138-100.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Cryptic_1onkey, http://alphageek.dyndns.org/torrents/ [17:08] evening all [17:08] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:08] sup foo [17:08] Pig_Pen: only have experience with debian and Redhat based distributions [17:08] *hdd* [17:08] s/hdd/hd/ [17:08] lo Zordrak [17:08] Cryptic_1onkey, then this will be a hoot [17:08] so according to Strykar's link, disc 1 has "A/AP/D/E/L/N, Slackware Book, /isolinux, /kernels" [17:09] amazon10x, *read* the page: Full file listings of each ISO: dvd, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6 [17:09] Ruddles, tastes like puddles (is my opinion) [17:10] Strykar: yes, i saw that. [17:10] merp (n=merp@182.sub-75-216-110.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:11] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:11] does anyone here use a password manager? i'm wondering if i shall manage my passwords via piece of paper in my wallet or with a password manager on a usb drive [17:12] merp (n=merp@75.sub-70-192-1.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] TBH I reckon the CDs ought to be removed from general distribution. If you want them and you know you want them, it's a piece of piss to build them at your will, and even easier with alienBOB's script.. that way noobs would stop pissing about dipping their toe in and messing around instead of getting the disc & installing [17:12] you need to use something like gkeyring [17:12] amazon10x: I like keepass myself. [17:13] amazon10x: personally i wrote a perl script that uses gpg to handle a text file [17:13] i think my optimal solution would be something that i could keep on a usb thumb drive that i could run standalone on linux and windows machines [17:13] perl script and gpg encrypted file suits those reqs [17:13] amazon10x, keepassx works fine. can also be built for window$ [17:13] checking out keepass now [17:13] crap, I'm getting seriously bored =/ [17:13] I use keepass all the time, works great. [17:13] Zordrak: is perl default on windows now? :P [17:14] Hey Camarade_Tux. How's it going? [17:14] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:14] no, but you can install activestate's to the stick [17:14] firebird619, hey, going alright beside being completely bored :p [17:14] firebird619, and how are you ? [17:15] amazon10x: but how many windows boxes are you using that dont have a network conneciton? [17:15] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] good idea Zordrak. oh, i should go buy a usb stick too [17:15] Camarade_Tux: doing great, thanks. The weather's kind of crappy today, raining off and on, but other than that doing great. :) [17:15] Zordrak: none. how does that affect it though? [17:15] why bother possing around with a usb stick when you can ssh into your slack box in 15 seconds and run your script straight from it [17:15] no matter where you are or what you;re on [17:15] as long as it has a net connection [17:16] ooh, good idea. this box is always on [17:16] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] and if you include ssh passwords in this.. [17:16] I guess ni can alsways download that dvd iamage [17:16] ssh++ [17:17] Cryptic_1onkey: why not do the minimal usb boot and then install the packages via ftp? [17:17] then just create a decent certificate and use ssh-copy-id to pass it around to the boxes you access.. then alias the ssh commands to shorter commands and you're literally two keypresses from another box once you're in your own [17:17] well, i'm on random machines all the time. i would want a solution that would let me go to a machien i've never been on and be logging into my webmail very quickly [17:18] then remember your webmail password :) [17:18] http://imagebin.org/48353 slashdot's new look after i log in [17:18] amazon10x: OR.. just leave webmail up in elinks under screen, then you're just "screen -r" away [17:18] Pig_Pen: that looks very suspiciously like an rss feed :P [17:19] well, i think i want something that would make it where i remember one main password [17:19] and all my other passwords will just be 64 characters long and random [17:19] and thus unmemorizable [17:19] i did nothing to change my browser, it started doing that today when i logged in a while ago [17:20] amazon10x: overkill.. srsly [17:20] i never used rss feed, it clutters up my bookmarks too much [17:20] but if thats the way you want to play it, my perl script os just whayt you need [17:20] its a little basic, but you can enhance it however you want for your own use [17:21] yeah, maybe i will go with something like that. this keepass thing looks nifty, but very very fancy for something that just needs to store some passwords [17:21] amazon10x: gimme a sec and i'll grab my script [17:21] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:21] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] k [17:21] i don't know perl though, so maybe i'll write something up in python [17:21] amazon10x: die [17:21] or maybe i'll just learn perl. i always feel a little funny not knowing [17:21] Learn Perl [17:22] python is for children [17:22] children should not play with snakes [17:23] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:23] i needed to install python on a windows machine so i loaded up python.com. turns out that's a porn site and i actually wanted python.org [17:23] i'm glad i was at home and not work, haha [17:23] hehe [17:23] lol [17:24] http://pastebin.ca/1416856 [17:25] should swap be Linux raid autodetect also if i'm raid 1'ing ? [17:25] it's pretty basic, but i knocked it up in a sort period of time to do a basic job [17:25] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] jeev: your choice [17:25] alright. i'll put a note down here to learn perl, and i'll check this out [17:26] it wouldn't find it [17:26] jeev: personally I do to avoid runtime corruption during a disk fail.. but it's very very unlikely to happen so not really necessary [17:26] jeev: esp since modern systems barely use swap anyway [17:26] amazon10x: because its such a basic script, if you read through it slowly, you will find yourslef learning perl basics very quickly [17:27] so long as you are familiar witrh programming principles [17:27] jeev: mkswap /dev/md2; swapon /dev/md2 [17:27] yeah, that's probably what i'll end up doing [17:27] holy crap. i almost pasted 91 lines here but irssi caught it [17:28] that would have been bad amazon10x. :P [17:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) left irc: [17:28] amazon10x: hopefully very soon you will start to understand and appreciate the Power of Perl [17:29] there's just no scripting language anywhere near its quality [17:29] imho [17:29] perl power ftw!!. :P [17:29] hmm [17:30] yeah, i feel like regardless of even any of its merits, it's something i should know just for posterity's sake [17:30] except i don't really know if posterity was the right word to use there [17:30] it wasnt [17:30] but i know what you mean [17:30] lol [17:31] perl fu [17:31] uva- (i=bno@118-160-164-181.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] haha, what's the word i was looking for there though [17:31] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [17:31] perl is so good i end up piping bash stuff into it to do something bash just isnt too good at [17:31] so much so i installed psh (the perl shell) [17:31] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Zozma_ (n=Winter@98-125-102-11.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] i've never gone that far Zordrak ^_^ [17:32] i need to learn to bash script too. those are basically the two things that i always feel a little stupid for not knowing: bash and perl [17:32] i cant even complete a zero fill with seatools [17:32] lame [17:32] personally while i love to work in bash, i dont like to script in it.. thats when i switch to perl [17:33] agreed [17:33] Nagios + A few lines of your own perl and a hard switch and BAM, you know what time of day your cat goes for a dump [17:33] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "Leaving" [17:33] lol [17:34] not that i really wanna know when Zordrak let's his cat take a dump [17:34] ;) [17:34] Zordrak: can you send me that script? [17:34] Necos: if you learn when it shits, then you can let it out at that time and save on litter :) [17:34] lol [17:34] amazon10x: catshit or passwords? :) [17:35] the cat one [17:35] :P [17:35] lol.. havent gotten around ot it yet :) [17:35] dont have nagios at home at the mo.. just at work [17:35] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] not necessary at home right now [17:35] haha [17:36] my point is, it only takes the slightest amount of perl [17:38] mmm, perl [17:39] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@80.13.217.233) left irc: "Quitte" [17:39] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:41] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:41] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] perl is a great tool [17:42] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host59-30-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "notte" [17:43] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-138-100.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:43] we likes perl [17:44] I have given thought to maybe spinning my own custom version of slackware withnthe right driver for the wifi card in my laptop installed out of the box. [17:44] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left ##slackware. [17:44] Cryptic_1onkey: your statement is insane [17:45] Cryptic_1onkey: the only thing you need to do setup your wifi card is grab one of these http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=b43&sv=12.2 to install the firmware, and it'll work [17:45] that would make you feel like shit in about 10 minutes flat... [17:45] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [17:45] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [17:45] Razec (n=razec@187-26-184-107.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:47] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) joined ##slackware. [17:47] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:48] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] darnit. all the slackbuilds are outdated for inkscape dependencies [17:48] Zordrak, i mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level 1 --raid-devices 2 \ [17:48] /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 [17:48] heh [17:48] it creates it, i mkswap it.. upon reboot, it's gone. [17:48] I really don't wont to kick extension four to the curb so i am sticking with ubun tu on the laptop at least untill slackware support the BCM 4312 wifidriver out of the box [17:48] jeev: /dev/sd[ab]2 [17:48] you have to pass your conf out to mdadm.conf [17:49] and add it to fstab [17:49] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-87.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:49] jeev: time to go back to the documentation [17:49] Cryptic_1onkey: if i understand correctly, slackware will never support that out of the box because it needs proprietary firmware which is illegal for slack to distribute [17:49] amazon10x: it's irrelevant anyway unless he plans on installing slack on 30 identical laptops [17:49] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:49] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] amazon10x: in which case its not custom install media he'd want.. [17:50] Well Than slackware plus laptop plus me = no go [17:50] amazon10x: hence his statement was moronic [17:50] just a post install script would work fine [17:50] everything in mdadm is commented out.. [17:50] amazon10x: for one laptop, even thats a waste of time [17:50] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Cryptic_1onkey: does that card work out of the box on ubuntu? [17:50] jeev: go find yourself a raid1 install howto [17:51] jeev: have you even put the raid info into lilo for the rest of the sys? [17:51] amazon10x: dont swear [17:51] Yes it does because conocle has partner ships with Broadcom [17:51] lol [17:51] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/README_RAID.TXT [17:51] yes, i've put raid conf in lilo. [17:51] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Cryptic_1onkey: link? i wasn't aware of that [17:52] hey naive question if someone sends me an email can i get His current IP from that ? or is that a stupid question ? [17:53] Agiofws: cheak the headers [17:53] short answer is ys [17:53] *yes [17:53] at least his domain [17:53] jeev: when you reboot.. you have raided slack, but no swap? [17:54] yes sir [17:54] Why is it that kde is the only gui thatr ships in the standard salckware dvds/ [17:54] it's not [17:54] and youve got swap in your fstab pointing to /dev/mdX where X refers to your swap raid? [17:54] Cryptic_1onkey: according to their website, ubuntu does not ship the firmware with ubuntu, it just downloads it automatically after you install ubuntu [17:54] Cryptic_1onkey: because gnome sucks donkey balls [17:54] fluxbox, tvm, etc [17:55] yes [17:55] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] Cryptic_1onkey: and xfce is a great alternative if you dont want kde but need a DE [17:55] if you just want a WM then fluxbox [17:55] http://f.pastebin.com/m73317034 [17:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:56] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [17:56] cypreshill (n=Administ@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:56] fvwm2, wmaker ... at cli, type xwmconfig to see what's currently available on your box (if you did the full install) [17:57] cannot stat /dev/md1 during boot [17:57] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:57] O_o [17:57] May 8 14:54:01 slack kernel: raid1: raid set md1 active with 2 out of 2 mirrors [17:57] May 8 14:54:01 slack kernel: md: delaying resync of md1 until md0 has finished (they share one or more physical units) [17:57] in dmesg.. assuming from reboot [17:57] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [17:57] dunno if that's useful [17:58] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:58] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [17:58] hahah [17:58] heh [17:58] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware. [17:59] jeev: next time use a pastebin :) [18:00] ghaha ass [18:00] Bop__ (i=1003@bl8-151-58.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] for two lines and fast typing ;D [18:00] jeev: Check dmesg for a line like: Adding 4000056k swap on /dev/md/2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:4000056k [18:00] Adding 4000056k swap on /dev/md/2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:4000056k [18:00] shit.. damn laptop buttons [18:00] Is it possible to do a full oinstallation nof slackware fron the ftp mirrors/ [18:00] Zordrak: I'm sorry, but I had a huge laugh at your expense a couple of weeks ago. You were so pissed at RTFM questions and got kicked by slackboy. It's on noobfarm, but it's *so* much better if you read the 2.5 hours leading up to it. :) [18:01] can someone tell me why there are two dvd images for slackware -current: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso [18:01] lee555J5: i know. [18:01] lee555J5: i was there. [18:01] One is not for -current Cy [18:01] lee555J5: surprisingly. [18:01] i didnt see anything that says swap [18:01] Hi alienBOB, how are you? [18:01] sorry, Cy? [18:01] root@slack:~# dmesg | grep swap [18:01] root@slack:~# [18:01] cypreshill: [18:01] cypreshill: the first two letters of your nick. [18:01] should i run it through set up again? [18:01] cypreshill: one is slackware 12.2 [18:01] cypreshill: slackware-12.2-DVD.iso is not for -current [18:02] why is it in the current folder? [18:02] Because [18:02] Go ask the site maintainer [18:02] it's the *current* release :) [18:02] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] has anyone tried out the 2gb one? what's missing? [18:03] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:03] Zordrak, i just did it again, swapon too. Adding 1951800k swap on /dev/md1. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1951800k [18:03] i'm gonan reboot and see what happens [18:04] if its in your fstab it should work fine [18:05] no workie ;/ [18:06] does it work if you change one of them to a standard swap part and point fstab at it? [18:06] can someone who understands bash scripting tell me what's on the -current image? http://www.slackware.no/makeSlackISOs.sh [18:06] let me try [18:07] cypreshill: dont use slackware.no's script [18:07] recently their -current has been out of kilter [18:07] kilter? [18:08] my english is not good [18:08] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [18:08] cypreshill: it basically means something isn't right with it. [18:08] will create ISOs for you, DVD or CD, your choice [18:08] I can see that, it's only 2gb, so obviously something is missing [18:08] its broke [18:08] I was wondering what [18:09] ahh [18:09] Adding 1951800k swap on /dev/sdb2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1951800k [18:09] trying sda2 now [18:09] is pat rebuilding a bunch of stuff due do the libxcb thing??? [18:09] jeev: im wondering if its not been adding it for some reason bceause its been rebuilding [18:09] Razec (n=razec@187-26-184-107.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] jeev: have you let the array fully build before rebooting/ [18:10] i'm going to send an email to the local university oss mirror to see if they'll put slack up there [18:10] not md0 [18:10] amazon10x: i recently asked Demon to mirror slack again.. they stopped some time ago.. they said it was stopped for "security reasons" [18:10] morons [18:10] jeev: whichever one is swap [18:11] security reaons? wtf. what's demon? [18:11] but then didnt your previous paste say it wasnt building swap till your / was done rebuilding/ [18:11] amazon10x: Demon Internet [18:11] some of the best mirrors in the UK [18:11] and the best time servers [18:11] ah [18:11] when i recreate it, it says active [18:12] many many years ago they were the BEST ISP.. now they suck ard.. but still run mirrors and ntp [18:12] it's not resyncing, says sync [18:12] hm [18:12] jeev: tbh im out of suggestions, would need to look at it myself [18:13] haha [18:13] confused eh [18:13] jeev: however I would put quite a lot of money on it being something ridiculously small that youve missed somewhere [18:13] the drive is stupid anyway, theyr'e both 500 gig recertificate seagate bullcrap [18:13] true Zordrak [18:13] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] is there a process 'ccl' that's always running for anyone else? [18:14] jeev: protip: only some new drives coming out of seagate factories are rigorously tested. however, every recertified drive is [18:14] jeev: you're not alone [18:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246197 [18:14] amazon10x, i have 2 500gigs and 6 1.5tb's, 2 1.5tb's are in RMA now. [18:14] 4 are about to go to RMA, these 2 500's are BACK from RMA [18:15] seagate is the company that had that issue with firmware that killed 1.5tb drives, right? [18:15] yep [18:15] jeev: im having the same trouble with Western Digital [18:15] they say mine aren't effected [18:15] affected [18:15] www.jeev.net/seagate.jpg [18:15] i bought a 400GB seagate and i don't like it. it's sooo loud [18:15] bought 10 drives from them in last 3 years.. 7 haqve been for RMA and two just died [18:15] really Zordrak? :/ [18:15] srsly [18:15] i just bought a few 1tb black caviars [18:15] shit [18:15] ive been tearing my hair out trying to keep everything backed up [18:16] what's the other HDD company that starts with S [18:16] when half my disks are RMAing, its hard to keep more than one copy of evetrything [18:16] samsung [18:16] this sucks though, the systems that i'm using it on are nvidia sata ;/ [18:16] oh, yeah, i think it's a samsung that i bought [18:16] is it good ? [18:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) joined ##slackware. [18:16] wait no, it was a definitely a seagate [18:17] trying to work out what to buy to solve my problems.. a good NAS is expensive, a RAID6 has heat dissipation issues, big disks are hard to back up when they need RMAing [18:17] i mean, it works fine and hasn't died on me. but it is very very loud [18:17] heh [18:17] when it's seeking i can hear it in the other room [18:17] am i wasting my time with these penguincomputing servers? [18:17] i was stupid and overpaid for them [18:17] I have a 640 GB seagate that works great. extremely quiet. [18:17] i have a 640 wd that rules [18:17] jeev: me too.. iuntil they fucking die [18:17] i have an 80gb WD that i bought several years ago that is still working like a champ [18:18] does SMART work over usb? [18:18] i dunno what to do, i dont want to get a pci-x raid card. [18:18] piissed [18:18] no nooper ;/ [18:18] well maybe in linux [18:18] i duno [18:18] dont think so thoug [18:18] i have lost a raptor II, five 400GBs (two were RE), tow 640GBs [18:20] AbortRet2yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Zordrak: any hdd companies you recommend, or are HDDs just not your cup of tea :P [18:20] seatools should burn in hell [18:21] amazon10x: When they work, WD disks are the nuts [18:21] WHEN they worlk [18:21] they just keep fucking dying on me [18:21] i dont know if its bad luck or what, but i cant find anything common [18:21] Zordrak, what sata controller [18:22] 1x intel, 1x JMircon, 1x nForce, 1x Silicon Image [18:22] time to go get a sandwich. maybe some other sustenance [18:22] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:24] i have good luck with both WD and seagate, the only drives i have trouble with were maxtor, i have not bought a new drive in about a year, also i am just a consumer (end user) like like i am an IT guy that handles dozens or hundreds of disks a week [18:24] not* like i am an IT guy [18:24] AbortRetryFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] heh [18:25] Pig_Pen, what was the wife yelling at you for [18:25] i had to peel potatos [18:25] lol [18:25] lol [18:25] "get in here and peel some potatos" [18:25] Pig_Pen: i love WD disks, i just dont know if i can buy any more causer of how many have died on me [18:25] i dont know [18:25] im struggling with the decision now [18:25] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] i can say the same for maxtor, i had two die on me one after the other and they were not very old, but since i am not one to keep every recipt and box a product comes in i just had to toss em out [18:26] Zordrak, i'm just afraid of the nvidia sata controller on the penguin servers ;/ [18:26] do i get three huge disks for RAID1 across 3.. do i get a NAS to do the same job? i cant run RAID6 cause i cant get the heat dissipation i need.. the didsks get too hot [18:27] now i understand the alure of slack [18:27] jeev: meh.. [18:27] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.96.84) joined ##slackware. [18:27] who did maxtor buy out? Seagate? [18:27] i originally had them on a gmirror, the 1.5tb's, freebsd.. took a crap instantly [18:27] jeev: nForce sucks.. but if it's all youve got [18:27] yea [18:27] 3 f'n boxes [18:27] Pig_Pen: Seagate bought Maxtor iirc. [18:27] VampirePenguin: get it working ? [18:27] ah, ok [18:27] firebird619: and Maxtor bought Quantum [18:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] hopefully seagate will not merge the problems from maxtor too [18:28] but Seagate just EOLed all the maxtor shit and rightly so [18:28] good [18:28] I still got a 12GB quantum been running for around 8 years! [18:28] Zordrak: yeah. I've only had one maxtor ever, ran well, but since then it was a WD for the past 5 years and now a seagate. [18:28] nah [18:29] id put money on them wanting to buy the Quantum IP and just having to take maxtor with it [18:29] was running for a few years anyway [18:29] can you all help me... for the most part my box is installed.. but i have a couple of programs that wont build right with sbopkg... lasl/vbox, gspca seems to be in the kernel and picks up my cam but i cant find a driver or is that the gst good,bad ugly things, and sbopkg doesnt have mencoder or acidrip [18:29] I have 12 WDs in varying computers, and they all have been replaced AT LEAST once. [18:29] eviljames: Thank fuck its not just me!! [18:30] goatdog (n=goatdog@tn-76-7-112-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] eviljames: maybe i'll just have to take the leap and start buying seagate [18:30] hello happy slackers [18:30] Zordrak: Don't bother, they all are fail. Just mirror (at least) everything and replace as necessary. [18:30] Hey LnxSlck. How are you? [18:30] eviljames: I do.. but the problem i have is i never have enough disks to keep a live backup while all the dead ones are RMAing [18:31] eviljames: i end up needing three disks for every disk of data [18:31] firebird619, fine and you? [18:31] LnxSlck: great, thanks. [18:31] Zordrak: True, true. I don't bother with mail-ordering disks though. That's something I buy from a local vendor so they can just trade me over the counter. [18:31] <_chess_> VampirePenguin: pls post issues with sbopkg in #sbopkg. I'm about to head home from work but I will take a look at it tonight. I have not had similar reports for those apps, but I'll still test. [18:31] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] thrice`, pretty much i just have a couple strings i dont know how to solve... [18:32] _chess_: dont bother.. not sbopkg issues.. noob issues [18:32] oh ok _chess_ [18:32] asl is looking for latex??? [18:32] there is not a latex there is tetex [18:32] which i thought was long ago deprecated for texlive [18:32] anyway [18:32] <_chess_> I know vbox builds fine in sbopkg b/c I just did it 2 days ago. [18:32] <_chess_> Zordrak: okay, thanks [18:33] eviljames: theres no-one i trust for over the counter around here [18:33] eviljames: best vendors are all online [18:33] eviljames: and then it ends up being quicker to go to WD [18:33] Ho does one in stsall irssi/ [18:33] Cryptic_1onkey: are you frigging kidding me? [18:33] Cryptic_1onkey, /n [18:33] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:33] Cryptic_1onkey: it's installed by default :) [18:34] hahah are we having a troll day? I've seen a half dozen q's like that in here today... [18:34] yeah IF you do a full install [18:34] eviljames: it aint good [18:34] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-30-12.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:34] eviljames: im almost to the point of buying disks just ot keep in boxes ready for the next RMA [18:34] if you gonna fuck about trying to do a custom install and not have stuff then you get what you deserve [18:35] Zordrak: It takes time, I have an established relationship with a local vendor and he's always good to me... keep your eyes peeled and pop into computer shops when you see them. never know what you'll find. [18:35] meh.. Sheffield computer shops are run by morons and spivs [18:35] Zordrak: I keep a spare sitting in the bottom of the case, not hooked up to power or anything for that purpose actually. [18:35] or, even better, start your own shop [18:35] ooh! [18:35] and be that guy that eviljames is talking about :D [18:36] either that or PCf*kin world [18:36] eviljames: thats how i run my backups.. i keep disks completely offline and run a full backup every week or so [18:36] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Success [18:36] SM177Y (n=josh@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] but the the primary dies and i darent even turn on the backup in case it dies.. and i never have a spare disk for a new backup [18:36] dive: yeah.. if you wanna pay a 30% markup [18:36] yep [18:36] i've developed a unique backup solution in that i am very careful that i never actually do anything of importance, thus negating the need for backups [18:37] western digital has advance rma [18:37] that's really cool [18:37] jeev: yeha.. if you want to risk their fuckup chargin your card $200 a disk [18:37] ive been close to the wire twice, even though ive next day UPSed tem the disk [18:38] Zordrak: just dispute it with visa [18:38] really, wonderful. [18:38] as long as you send that with fedex or something, insured and tracked [18:38] no? [18:38] amazon10x: still its an asscock i dont have time for [18:38] jeev> it means their drives die a lot [18:38] man, i've got a salad here with so much magical stuff in it [18:38] shit man [18:38] hope the black caviar is better [18:38] jeev: it doesnt matter, its not on their system till they process it... about 3 weeks after they receive it.. or later [18:39] TpBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:39] and you cannot cancel an advance RMA once about an hour has passed [18:39] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) joined ##slackware. [18:39] so if your disk suddenly starts passing the DLG tests.. your're screweed [18:39] last time that happened they made me refuse the package to stop me from being charges [18:39] TpBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:40] im just so sick of spending my entire fucking life being a RMA droid and juggling disks.. how hard is it to just store some damn data without breaking [18:40] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-30-12.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] i cant wait for SSD to get more advanced and a shitload cheaper [18:40] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:40] http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/products.php? [18:41] SALE! [18:41] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] emerge isnt working [18:42] just think when ssd gets better your raid is hotswappable and PC cases are setup so yout dont even have top open the case, just unplug and plug in ssds like it was a game cartridge [18:42] TopBunny88: how would you like me to kill you? [18:42] TopBunny88: that's a feature of slackware [18:42] Pig_Pen: its the lack of moving parts i need.. less moving parts, less to break, less heat produced [18:43] that too :D [18:43] thrice`: and a great feature at that. :) [18:43] I am on my freshly minted slackware box Zordrak ' [18:43] not to mention _speed_ [18:43] TopBunny88: emerge is a gentoo thing [18:43] TopBunny88, you're not typing it right [18:43] lol emerge [18:43] amazon10x: i couldnt give a toss about speed.. i just want the damn things to function [18:44] if you want slackware with ports, install kongura or whatever [18:44] its new [18:44] I Isn't it slaptget? [18:44] Crux has a better ports system than gentoo [18:44] Both of you get the hell out before i bitchslap you both [18:44] is crux slack based? [18:44] lol [18:44] Superbaloo (n=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [18:44] if you like slackware you'll like crux [18:44] http://www.kongoni.co.za/ [18:44] cmon in boys [18:45] !bitchslap Pig_Pen [18:45] http://crux.nu/Main/About [18:46] chowabunga: one word of warning about crux, it does not have any pre-compiled kernels to install, you install like any other linux, then chroot and build a kernel, it does have kernel source [18:46] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:46] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:46] i could just tarball my slack kernel and modules [18:46] sounds nice [18:46] maybe, i never done it that way [18:46] but its not slackware based :P [18:47] not based on slack, but there are similarities, crux does use bsd style init scripts in /etc/rc.d [18:47] well at least they got that right [18:48] How do I pull down the intier xwindows system post installation? [18:48] /x /xap [18:48] TopBunny88: slackpkg install x [18:48] TopBunny88: learn slackpkg [18:48] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] uh [18:48] SM177Y (n=josh@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [18:49] installpkg /mnt/cdrom/slackware/x/*.tgz [18:49] the main things to learn with slackware is slackpkg, pkgtool, and some other goodies like using makepkg when building source [18:49] or xorg-* [18:49] Ok Pig_Pen & amazon10x iwill read up on salckpkg [18:49] giuppy (n=giuppy@79.2.162.156) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:49] Pig_Pen> some people would rather not bother... [18:49] i do :D [18:50] do you still download and install a bunch of stuff every day? [18:50] TopBunny88> linuxpackages.net *boohhissss* [18:50] no, but i refuse to install dbus and hal and a few apps do need rebuilding when dbus and hal are not there [18:51] why dont you want dbus and hal? [18:51] they are evil! :p (i dont like them) [18:51] hal is a waste of processing and power [18:51] hald [18:51] dont seem to bother me since they are stable and useful [18:52] yeah I'm waiting for non-polling hardware layer [18:52] i guess...havent had to mess with it [18:52] inotify? [18:52] default 5s polling of opticla drives? hell no [18:52] i forget the name [18:52] kernel polling, used by dbus and hal [18:52] i would not install udev too but it saves me from writing a long list of modprobe this & that in rc.modules [18:52] udev is a massive win [18:52] vl-hot [18:53] alright. time to try out makepkg to build pangomm. wish me luck [18:53] although I haven't trie dit yet [18:53] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:53] yeah, udev does its thing during boot then stay out of the way once booted up [18:53] so i cant really say anything bad about udev [18:53] ok everyone do uptime [18:53] chowabunga: uh.. no [18:53] load average: 0.12, 0.08, 0.07 [18:54] MAN that dbus is really working me over [18:54] i booted up about two and half hours ago (happy?_ [18:54] http://developer.berlios.de/projects/vl-hot/ [18:54] load average [18:54] 0.17, 0.27, 0.27 [18:54] i win [18:54] made for vector [18:54] amazon10x> hehe ive had like 6.0 before [18:54] or 8 [18:55] im just saying, our pc's arent stressed much 95% of the time [18:56] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] if my PC was getting bogged down by some process i would be looking for something wrong [18:58] load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 lol! [18:58] load average: 0.73, 0.36, 0.17 [18:58] Pig_Pen, ditto [18:58] but then I'm not running X [18:58] what package do i install for the xorg server? [18:58] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:59] TopBunny88> xorg-* would be a good idea [18:59] why didnt you do a full install? [18:59] its easier to remove stuff later once you know what it is unless you have less than 4gb space [18:59] try startx [18:59] nonono [19:00] I can live without x [19:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430865.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] for 95% of the time [19:00] TopBunny88> just restart with a full install, trust me [19:00] its must easier to get a working system right away then figure out how to break it :P [19:00] or how not to [19:00] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-129-180.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:00] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [19:00] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [19:02] how can i see which processes are running from each cpu [19:03] what i hate about the progress X is making in Linux is it is not enough that we have X now, the developers that make it all happen are bloating it all up with feature creep, X with glx/opengl is plenty, now we got a damn spinning cube that does not do anything practical [19:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [19:03] SPINNAN CUEBZ [19:04] isn't that a compiz thing though, and not X? [19:04] thats not X really [19:04] i mean the kernel is futzing itself up with virtualization and crypto libraries and crap....oh wellz [19:04] as long as its stable and you have a choice [19:05] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Tampeaurayrak (n=asukov@unaffiliated/tampeaurayrak) joined ##slackware. [19:05] same with web browsers, its not enough to have plugins for flash and audio/video, now we got rss that makes a mess out of your bookmarks, and some websites do everything in flash to the point their websites wont function without flash [19:05] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-30-12.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] flash is an option [19:05] not on some websites [19:06] blame the website [19:06] yes [19:06] i do [19:06] when in the heck is flash support coming to links. i've been waiting forever [19:06] haha [19:06] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:06] you know you can use firefox on linux right? [19:06] WAT [19:06] :P [19:06] ok, i am done ranting [19:07] lol [19:07] amazon10x: links -g ftw ? [19:07] It maybe isn't flash, but if it works on your system it is neat. [19:07] let's see if that works [19:08] nope. something about svgalib [19:08] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) left irc: "never push the red button... never... oops..." [19:08] i actually used opera for a while but since i reinstalled slack the other day, i'm trying out firefox [19:08] i wish the internet was like it was back in the 1990's just good ol text and graphics [19:09] chowabunga, ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu [19:09] Pig_Pen, me too [19:09] or such [19:09] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-30-12.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] ahhhh you forkebumedm e [19:10] hmm they all say "-" for the cpu line [19:10] column [19:10] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.23) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:11] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) joined ##slackware. [19:12] psr PSR processor that process is currently assigned to. [19:12] AbortRet2yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:13] cool [19:13] mpstat -P ALL can also show per processor overall info [19:14] nice [19:15] good call on the psr [19:15] i guess its kinda useless info [19:15] because mine also has - in cpu [19:16] lol [19:17] hr. For those of us who haven't been following it... p7zip, lzma, lzip. All use lzma algorithm... but do I need all 3 installed to be able to at least extract any lzma-compressed file I come across? [19:18] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: "Smoke my bones" [19:18] why is this in my logs lol [19:18] "http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Schematic+-+DOD+FX54+Attacker&hl=en&start=20&sa=N" [19:19] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:26] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:29] out of curiosity, what wm/de is everyone using? [19:29] screen [19:29] lol [19:29] ok xfce when i do use one [19:29] windowmaker [19:30] how do you watch pr0n with screen [19:30] I guess that's when xfce comes into place [19:30] mplayer -vo svga [19:30] heh, xine + aalib :) [19:30] fvwm! [19:30] do you need framebuffer enabled? [19:30] yes [19:31] framevbuffer driver [19:31] Tampeaurayrak (n=asukov@unaffiliated/tampeaurayrak) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:31] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.123.30) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:31] are there any default/usable configurations for fvwm? [19:32] I was reading its manual page and it's going to take ages before I come up with a nice "style" [19:32] i have a nice minimal .fvwm2rc i know you'll like [19:32] can you send it? [19:33] or upload it somewhere [19:33] http://pastebin.com/d684514f7 this is my .fvwm2rc [19:34] did you make it yourself? [19:35] not really, i just trimmed the fat out of a stock config file [19:36] I tried making my own fvwm2rc but after an hour I didn't have the patience to go through its obscure manual page [19:36] maybe I'll get drunk tonight and try again [19:37] yeah, fvwm is an odd egg when it comes to its config file [19:37] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-71-153-134-62.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] lns40 (n=snL20@90.149.203.34) left irc: Client Quit [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] what about twm, is it just as weird to configure? [19:40] twm lacks a feature i gotta have = multiple virtual desktops [19:40] with active screen borders that let me switch desktops by just bumping either the left or right hand edge of the screen with my mouse/cursor [19:41] look at /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc [19:42] nope, they moved it [19:43] its now in /usr/share/X11/twm/system.twmrc [19:44] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [19:45] oia (n=lyminsk@20151095223.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:45] oia (n=lyminsk@20151095223.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:45] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:46] if you are wanting to tinker with twm you could do: cp /usr/share/X11/twm/system.twmrc ~/.twmrc and edit to your hearts content [19:46] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:46] thanks [19:46] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] I've never really used virtual desktops [19:47] that's workspaces, right? [19:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:48] yeah, once you get the hang of em you'll love em better than using a task bar with window icons for switching from one app to another [19:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:48] pigpen, are you always here [19:49] always here, unless im gone :D [19:49] you are tou atlking to [19:49] me [19:49] i just see you talking to yourself thats all heheh [19:49] lol! [19:49] guys have any of you tried using telnet to send some post request under port 80 but behind a login page or sort of that requires a session login? [19:50] I used fluxbox for a very little while, disabled the toolbar and changed the behavior of the minimize button to "Shade" [19:50] 2.6.29.3 stable [19:50] like this the title bar remained, but the rest of the window went into hiding [19:50] toytoy> maybe, yu can use wget to post [19:50] or htdig or something [19:50] curl [19:50] im hungry [19:50] i wish linux could cook me dinner [19:50] i disabled titlebars in that fvwm2rc i pasted [19:51] chopp, seems to be faster and faster stable updates [19:51] chowabunga: though i can use telnet with post but behin login it seems that telnet can't do it becaue it doesn't have a built-in cookie feature? [19:51] lately [19:51] toytoy> guess not [19:51] leftclick will maximize, iconify, close, kill, resize, move [19:51] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [19:51] chowabunga: yeah that means you can't do get/post behind a login through telnet,right? [19:51] rightclick menu, but it is spartin, just xterm and an editor [19:51] andrew_46 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147) joined ##slackware. [19:52] right you use something else [19:52] I will test it as soon as my mofo brother brings home the laptop [19:52] chowabunga: though would it work with htdig? i guess wget can't do it right? [19:52] wget/curl can i think [19:52] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@70.149.55.198) joined ##slackware. [19:52] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] i dunno [19:52] dive: yeah I'd have to agree on that. They get rolled out fairly quickly lately. [19:52] you could use python [19:52] Damn this cd burner on my damn laptop [19:52] chowabunga: i just ask looking for some tools that is possible of using some xss attack or sql injection attack w/o using a browser. [19:53] telnet is possible but most of our data or fields requres a login so that's why i ask about it. [19:53] chowabunga: using a python even behind a login page will do? [19:54] http://pastebin.ca/1416966 i did this ina few hours...having never used python before, its easy stuff [19:54] note the post values and such, password_mgr [19:55] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:55] you only need like 5 lines from that [19:55] ad the imports [19:56] chowabunga: ohm i see, so this means that sql injection/xss attack is still susceptible even those pages that requies login? [19:56] yeah unless they use real cookies, then you gotta handle cookies [19:56] which isnt hard either [19:56] just google python http cookies [19:56] Hell with it I am going to stay up sll night and get slackware working on both the laptop and thr Deminsion4600C [19:56] chowabunga: ah i see, so this means even behid a login page it is still possible. [19:56] of course [19:57] 10 different ways [19:57] chowabunga: really, that's a lot anyways hehe. [19:57] well assuming you have a valid login [19:57] otherwise youd *hope* no attack would be possible [19:57] but you never know [19:58] chowabunga: yeah though i was talkig about not using a browser. i.e. excluding those javascripts or other scripts that are handled via browser. [19:58] toytoy, at the end of the day it's text passing back and forth [19:59] andrew_46 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147) left ##slackware. [19:59] every 'crack' is towards a specific software / specific piece of code / specific and usually unique target [19:59] Damn DVD I am using a DVD+r Discs or dual layer discs [19:59] the rest is just kdidie shit [19:59] toytoy, you can encrypt stuff but that's it [20:00] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] yeah i was thinking that damn, this would be a lot of data entry or encoding hehe coz the script i'm going to strip are lot [20:02] guys, thank you for sharing those. 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[20:16] dive Iyes i have a viable network connection [20:17] 'man slackpkg' [20:18] slackpkg will download and install anything you need from a viable 12.2 server listed in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [20:20] thanks dive [20:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] dive: Ho doe one make it that xorg starts at boot and launches his favorite DE [20:22] edit /etc/inittab and set default runlevel to 4 [20:22] id:4:initdefault: [20:22] but [20:23] don't do that until you are sure you have a working system [20:23] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:23] ah well [20:23] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:23] Hi dive. How are you? [20:24] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) left irc: "Leaving" [20:26] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [20:26] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:26] hi firebird619, not bad thanks - a little drunk from ruddles county ;) how are you? [20:27] doing very well, thank you. :) [20:29] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:31] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.96.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:31] Razec (n=razec@187-26-251-79.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] valeri (i=4c642e77@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-55517fdb417e6836) joined ##slackware. [20:35] valeri (i=4c642e77@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-55517fdb417e6836) left irc: Client Quit [20:36] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: "ADD is not an illness. 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[20:55] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:57] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:59] signal11_ (i=esteban@wsip-68-110-131-118.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:01] baobao__ (n=baobao@220.231.240.86) joined ##slackware. [21:01] what laptops do you guys use [21:02] baobao__: i have a netbook. but it doesn't have slack on it [21:02] oh [21:02] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) left irc: "A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard." [21:02] why? are you having an issue with your laptop? [21:02] Nick change: signal11_ -> signal11 [21:02] i have a asus 1000ha eeepc with slack 12.2 [21:02] yah, something wrong with audio [21:02] i plugin ear phone, no sound [21:02] tank-man: is that with the 6-cell battery? what kind of battery life do you get? [21:03] baobao__: what kind of laptop is it [21:03] acer aspire 3680 [21:04] its advertised as like 7 hrs i believe [21:04] it's old laptop [21:04] but the newer 1000he is advertised as 9hrs [21:04] baobao__: are you in the audio group? [21:04] yes [21:05] tank-man: do you get 7 hrs? [21:05] i can hear from speaker... [21:05] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [21:05] never timed it [21:05] baobao__: so just the headphone jack doesn't work? [21:05] yes firebird619 [21:05] unmute it :) [21:06] Hey thrice`, how's it going? [21:06] battery life is long enough for me so that I don't have to time it [21:06] i was just asking because on my samsung i get about 6-7hrs of battery life in winxp but in linux i'm getting only about 5.5 [21:06] hi :) [21:06] Jean (n=jean@93-36-227-134.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:07] hi guys, what's the exact command to gzip a directory ? [21:07] when i do gzip -r directory [21:07] amazon10x, are you using the same settings? like harddrive spindown time, screen brightness, same program usage [21:07] gzip only works on files [21:07] it 'gzips' the files contained into the directory [21:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [21:07] you want to use tar and gzip together, to make an archive containing more than one file [21:08] but netbook cpu only got 512kb l2 cache, netbook sucks [21:08] tank-man: yeah. my best guess is that the wireless driver isn't working properly (it's very new) and it's draining the battery [21:08] "tar cvfz dir.tar.gz dir/" is the standard thing to do [21:08] i must not use tar [21:08] that's the matter ! :- [21:08] gzip does not do what you think it does [21:08] why can't you use tar? [21:08] netbook is not good is it? [21:08] i just can use gzip, or zip commands [21:09] small lcd and crappy keyboard [21:09] baobao__: depends on what you need to use it for [21:09] crappy cpu [21:09] Urchlay, the website which receive the file does not recognize the tar.gz file :-( [21:09] netbook is not supposed to be good, is it? [21:09] baobao__: depends on what you need to use it for [21:09] from gzip man page, search for "recursive" [21:09] if you need a very fast machine, then it is not good [21:09] in that case, it wouldn't recognize a .gz either I'm sure. Why not use zip? [21:10] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:10] zip -r dir.zip dir/ [21:10] Urchlay, oh it does recognize gz file, it mentionned there, the recognized extensions are (zip,tar,gz and tgz) [21:10] how do i tell what programs are installed... i dont see a switch in any of th man pages or books ive looked at [21:11] all packages are stored in /var/log/packages/ [21:11] well, a list of the packages [21:11] VampirePenguin, well if you have the man page, the program is installed as well [21:11] so its a manual process [21:11] pkgtool also has a list [21:11] ehhm. if it says "tgz", you can use "cvfz dir.tgz dir". Probably it's too dumb to know ".tar.gz"... but it's just a name [21:11] VampirePenguin: what is a manual process ? [21:11] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:11] er, "tar cvfz dir.tgz dir" I mean [21:11] ok i was looking under slackpkg [21:12] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) joined ##slackware. [21:12] let me look under pkgtool [21:12] Urchlay, ok thanks for helping [21:12] thanks for being patient... i dont mind reading it for myself i just have to knonw where i need to read it [21:12] thrice`: looking at that directory [21:13] thrice`: but if pkgtool can do it all the better [21:13] that's just to tell if a package is installed or not. so, if I wanted to see if firefox is installed, "ls /var/log/packages/*firefox*" would tell me [21:14] or, similarly, loading pkgtool, and going to "view" [21:14] okay i get it [21:15] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) joined ##slackware. [21:15] but there might be an easier way to achieve what you're trying to do :) [21:15] couldn't you also, in some cases, use slackpkg search package-name-here and see if it shows installed or uninstalled? [21:15] I've done that before. [21:16] dog food: bow wow chow ;) [21:16] oh like slackpkg search gs [21:16] and it pulls up all that stuff [21:17] thats easy [21:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.71.71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:19] VampirePenguin: yeah, that works for most cases, at least in my experience. I also use ls /var/log/packages | grep package-name-here. [21:19] all netbook has is battery life and small lcd [21:20] it has bad cpu, bad video card, bad design, bad lcd [21:20] http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/03/13/netbook_flowchartx.jpg [21:21] baobao__: netbooks are very nice, for what they are designed to do, i.e. web browsing, e-mail, word processing, etc. They do not have bad cpu's, video cards, and so on; they just aren't designed to be powerful or desktop pc replacements. [21:22] if nowaday a pc still can't play 3d games, can't play bluray, no hdmi socket and small keyboards, how nice can it be [21:23] no wonder apple says it won't compete netbook, it's too crapy to play [21:23] Razec (n=razec@187-26-251-79.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [21:23] lolo [21:23] I disagree [21:23] baobao__: netbooks aren't crappy, they were *not* designed to do that type of thing. [21:23] most of those notebooks can play movies just fine. [21:23] with 512kb l2 cache? i don't think how nice it can be [21:23] it's a rip off [21:24] baobao__: you're spoiled [21:24] so don't frigging buy one [21:24] now even 3mb l2 cpu is common [21:24] lol, exactly, if you don't like them, don't buy them. [21:24] those machines are perfectly fine [21:24] baobao__: really? [21:24] 2mb l2 cpu is everywhere [21:25] and 512kb l2 for netbook, hahaha [21:25] baobao__: and the l2 cache is everything, right? [21:25] erm, guys. i'm preeeety sure you're getting trolled [21:25] yeah [21:25] /ignore is your friend [21:25] thumbs: evidently to him it is. :P [21:25] Action: thumbs ignores the troll [21:25] it's signigicant. not to mention video card and other design [21:25] how are you doing thumbs? [21:25] model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 244 [21:25] cache size : 1024 KB [21:25] firebird619: very well, you? [21:26] thumbs: doing very well also, thank you. Sure is a rainy/dreary day here today. Hopefully it's better tomorrow. :) [21:26] firebird619: plana para el fin de semana? [21:27] planes [21:27] mogunus (n=user@173-9-7-10-New-England.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] No plans, just hope the weather's nicer. :) [21:28] firebird619: sorry, do you speak Spanish? [21:28] thumbs: No, but google does. :P [21:28] firebird619: ah, sorry, I mistook you for someone else. [21:28] thumbs: I know enough I guess that I knew that was spanish. [21:28] thumbs: that's ok. :) [21:28] someone was speaking spanish in here the other day [21:28] catalina spanish or something [21:29] amazon10x: yes, very hard to decipher [21:29] firebird619: tomorrow, I will go buy myself a wedge. I'm excited. [21:29] a PW, to be precise. [21:29] cool. [21:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: "Leaving" [21:30] thumbs: how'd you ever turn out with that, iirc laptop, that got something spilled on it? I know that was a while ago now. [21:30] firebird619: I had the mobo replaced/ [21:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:31] thumbs: Ah, so does it work again? [21:31] firebird619: and they sent me a 320 GB HDD as a replacement, along with the original 160 GB one. [21:31] sure, it does. [21:31] nice, [21:31] actually, how the charger is dead. [21:31] but that's another issue. [21:31] s/how/now/ [21:31] always something, isn't there. :) [21:31] yeah [21:31] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.70) joined ##slackware. [21:32] it's OK, those are 16$ on ebay. [21:32] I'm gonna buy 3. [21:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] yeah, they are fairly cheap on ebay. [21:32] CaptObviousman (n=The_Capt@unaffiliated/captobviousman) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:32] it powers the laptop, yet the battery doesn't charge [21:32] CaptObviousman (n=The_Capt@unaffiliated/captobviousman) joined ##slackware. [21:33] and the bios doesn't recognise the charger any more. Google says the charger is faulty [21:33] I've never had a laptop before, I'd like to get one though. I've been looking on ebay lately for laptops, but all the ones in my price range (i.e. cheap) are stripped of hdd, ram, etc. [21:33] firebird619: be wary [21:34] firebird619: take it from me, replacement parts can be costly, and it does require much more maintenance than a desktop [21:34] thumbs: yeah, that's for sure. I've been looking around alot lately and have seen just how much things can cost. [21:35] firebird619: heck, I paid 2200$ for mine, and see where it got me.... [21:36] I almost had a laptop, private party, but then the guy called back and said, oh, sorry, I'm using it again because my other one broke. I think it was a lie and he sold it to someone else or something, the story didn't sound right if you know what I mean. [21:36] cpuobsessed (n=tim@208.77.121.118) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [21:36] baobao__ (n=baobao@220.231.240.86) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:36] firebird619: I have this old compaq, you can have it, only the BIOS is locked [21:37] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] what happened to the bios, just up and locked up? [21:37] erm, the owner locked it. [21:38] that is all I will say. [21:38] :D [21:39] it's a nice P4 [21:39] cant be reset with a jumper thing? [21:39] or yanking the little watch battery [21:39] Pig_Pen: nope, not the compaq's [21:39] they don't have a battery [21:39] seriously? [21:39] wait, it's a toshiba. [21:40] anyhow, those are hard to 'fix' [21:40] you forgot what the brand was? :P [21:40] I have many used laptops/ [21:40] ah, a laptop collector? [21:41] anything from a P2 to a dual core. [21:41] they may be worth something someday. :) [21:41] most lack a hard drive. [21:41] even parts & repairable laptops go for decent money on ebay. [21:41] perhaps. [21:42] this toshiba is recent, however. I'd like to get it to work one day. [21:42] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.29.3 [21:42] It's amazing really, even ones with broken screens go for over $100 alot of the times. [21:42] sweet, new kernel. [21:42] w--t [21:43] which means probably 3-4 new changes to the RT patch, gosh that thing changes alot, development is very active for that. [21:43] s/changes/versions [21:43] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] keoni (i=1000@208-106-15-140.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-181-176.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] thumbs: looked here before? http://www.laptop-repair.info/toshiba_bios_password.html [21:44] how do you undo a patch [21:44] firebird619: yes yes yes [21:44] firebird619: I even tried the parallel port device [21:45] wow, that thing is stuck then huh. :P [21:45] firebird619: yes, the parallel port loopback is useless on my model [21:45] 4M/s from kernel.org [21:45] thumbs: sounds like with that one, your up a creek without a paddle. [21:46] darnit, when are they going to put my touchpad fix into the kernel [21:46] i'm tired of rebuilding the whole thing just for that [21:46] amazon10x: what's wrong with your touchpad? [21:46] netbook touchpad has some funkiness going on with x/y resolution [21:46] firebird619: and I can't swim, either [21:46] which results in different speeds for going up/down vs left/right [21:46] thumbs: oh no, that's double trouble. :P [21:47] amazon10x: ah, that's gotta be annoying. [21:47] the patch at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18351 works [21:47] but they're messing around with formalities before putting it in the kernel [21:47] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] thumbs: tried any software solutions? [21:47] firebird619: I put it aside for now. Maybe in a month I'll get it to work [21:47] Cryptic_Donkey (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-223.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] firebird619: can't. The bios password comes first [21:48] firebird619: you can't even enter the BIOS [21:48] ouch [21:49] I'm reading that in some cases, the only way is to replace the laptop's security chip. [21:50] screw that. [21:50] haha [21:50] 2.4 kernel is nice [21:50] thumbs: from a forum: Toshiba eh?? Too bad.. Unfortunately, pulling the battery on one of those isn't going to work.. We have a couple of them at work and, if the password is changed and forgotten, then ONLY way in is to send it to an authorized Toshiba repair depot.. [21:51] firebird619: wellll... not an option. [21:51] :O [21:51] http://freshmeat.net/projects/toast [21:52] thumbs: mind if I know what the model # is? [21:52] firebird619: sure, why not [21:52] firebird619: (it's at work, trying to recall, with a few beers) [21:53] haha [21:53] firebird619: it's a Satellite [21:54] wow, an intergalactic laptop. :P I think most all toshiba's are satellites. [21:54] give me a sec [21:54] 1... times up. :P [21:54] just kidding. :) [21:55] firebird619: it's a 1900 [21:55] ok [21:55] thumbs: congratulations, you remember even with a few beers. [21:55] s/remember/remembered [21:56] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) joined ##slackware. [21:56] firebird619: I recall things while being under the influence of many subtances. [21:56] lol [21:56] firebird619: under amounts that would make most people lost their minds, too. [21:56] haha, wow. [21:57] firebird619: some would call it a downer, I call it the voice of reason. [21:58] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-80-173.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:58] how can I give to two variables the same value? like CFLAGS,CXXFLAGS="blah" [21:59] CFLAGS="blah" ; CXXFLAGS = $CFLAGS [21:59] firebird619: it allows one to sober up enough to drive home, for one. [21:59] dissociative: shell scripting pretty much means to ' CFLAGS="blah" ; CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}}" ' [22:00] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] or ${CFLAGS} to be sure of sureness i think [22:00] thumbs: that's to nice a laptop to have locked up. :) [22:00] firebird619: I agree! [22:00] the brackets are usually for cli options (like ${1})), but it's a good habit to have in ash/bash [22:01] thumbs: what a shame. :( [22:01] firebird619: I will succceed. [22:01] firebird619: the previous owner who donated it to me requires me to. [22:02] really? then do you have to give it back to the previous owner? [22:02] no. [22:02] he paid me back with it. it was his way to say thank you. [22:02] so I feel bad, since I was looking for a laptop then [22:03] that's a darn nice thank you. [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] indeed. [22:03] Cryptic_1onkey (n=topgun17@adsl-149-55-198.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:03] you are lucky. [22:03] I lied to him when I said my work bought me a Dell XPS. I bought it. But I could not admit that to him. [22:04] :O [22:04] shame, shame, shame. :) [22:04] indeed. That P4 will get a new HD, and a slackware installation. I promise. [22:04] download OpenArena [22:04] its pretty good, smooth physics [22:05] thumbs: once it's unlocked that is. [22:05] someone pointed me to use something like: declare {CFLAGS,CXXFLAGS}="bleh" [22:05] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] it will get unlocked! [22:05] you just don't know how. [22:05] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-54-247.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:06] not yet [22:08] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-47-31.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] you tried shorting out JP8? [22:08] err, wrong thing, sorry. [22:08] that was my next move, actually [22:09] no, a similar article [22:09] thumbs: I think if you find the right one to short, you can get it. [22:09] some folks had moderate success forcefully shortly some jumpers [22:09] abby (n=abby@88-202-52-15.ip.skylogicnet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:10] randomHero_ (n=brandon@pool-71-191-63-18.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] by the way this is happening in my machine all the days but I'm not sure of what is the problem: http://slackware.pastebin.com/m6bb06f30 [22:12] thumbs: whats the bios manufacturer for that? [22:12] randomHero_ (n=brandon@pool-71-191-63-18.washdc.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [22:12] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.131.124) joined ##slackware. [22:13] firebird619: phoenix, I presume [22:14] thumbs: I just found where it specifically says the parallel loopback *won't* work on the 1900. :P [22:14] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.117.70) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:14] firebird619: yeah. I deluded myself in thinking it would. I even bought a pre-made device for 4$ [22:15] thumbs: did you happen to try Toshiba for it? [22:15] firebird619: sorry, "try toshiba"? [22:15] dissociative> your drive is dying [22:15] or its going to sleep [22:15] thumbs: also, when booting, just try holding down the left shift key. [22:15] firebird619: OK. [22:15] thumbs: yes, Toshiba as the BIOS password. [22:16] chowabunga: It has been happening like from the other year [22:16] or you have bad cables [22:16] firebird619: oh, I'm sure I must have tried that so far. [22:16] firebird619: I will do again, however. [22:16] firebird619: thanks for looking into this, by the way. I appreciate it. [22:16] thumbs: ok, just thought I'd ask, also try that left shift key thing and see what happens. [22:16] I was thinking in replacing the sata cable by another of much better quality [22:16] thumbs: no problem. [22:17] thumbs: from a site I found: Most Toshiba laptops and some desktop systems will bypass the BIOS password if the left shift key is held down during boot [22:17] firebird619: very interesting. [22:17] firebird619: you deserve positive karma, sir. [22:18] thumbs: Also, I asked if you tried toshiba as pass because some bios manufacturers set a backdoor password that works no matter what. For example, Phoenix uses BIOS, CMOS, phoenix and PHOENIX. [22:18] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:18] but pc manufacturers can also set their own, i.e. Toshiba. [22:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] baby doesn't feel so good today:( [22:19] nix_chix0r: oh no :( [22:19] nix_chix0r: hello, how are you? what's wrong with the baby? [22:20] Action: thumbs gives nix_chix0r a big hug [22:20] i'm alright, he's just got a bug of some sort. [22:20] i thought i was goign to pull my hair out from his blood curdling screaming all day and it's hard to make him comfortable. [22:20] that's to bad. Hope he gets better soon. [22:21] nix_chix0r: how old is he now? [22:21] lotec (n=lotec@adsl-65-68-106-153.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] colic maybe? [22:21] Hello Great Linux Minds [22:21] 2months this wed so close. [22:21] hi lotec. [22:21] yeah i think he has a bit of colic but after a good burp [22:21] ah, colics are frequent at that age [22:21] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "beep" [22:21] hes doing better i think [22:22] Well, a stuck burp can cause grief too. :P [22:23] stuck burps still cause be grief at 35 [22:23] haha, indeed they do. [22:23] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] I was uncomfortable all day at work [22:23] stuck burp = universal grief causer. :P [22:24] he smiled [22:25] thumbs: keep me posted with that laptop issue, if I find any more tips, I'll let ya know. [22:25] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:25] firebird619: I appreciate it [22:26] firebird619: please let me know if you need anythign in the future [22:26] hosting, whatever. [22:26] :) thanks. [22:29] meh [22:29] evening folks [22:29] tecky: buenas tardes [22:29] firebird619, we got smiles..thiings are shaping up [22:29] omg a chick that uses linux? [22:29] holy shits! [22:29] Action: tecky checks outside to see if pigs are flying [22:30] nix_chix0r: good to hear. :) [22:30] tecky: Well, are they? [22:30] i dono yet [22:30] ok [22:30] :) [22:30] air ways seem to be clear [22:31] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] probably not flying then. [22:31] wtffffff [22:31] WARNING: modpost: Found 4 section mismatch(es). [22:31] To see full details build your kernel with: [22:31] 'make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y' [22:31] why does this keep happening, im only using make menuconfig [22:31] tecky, swineflu:) [22:31] close enough [22:32] nix_chix0r, are you really of the female type, having 2 protruding appendages that come out from your chest, and something other than a firehose from between your legs? [22:32] I dont think i believe my eyes! [22:32] this cannot be! [22:33] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [22:33] tecky: she had a baby, she's a woman. :) [22:33] nix_chix0r is a great contributor to this community [22:34] firebird619, well, how do we know it was HER baby, she could have bought it on ebay or something silly like that! [22:34] yeah i spawned almost two months ago [22:34] did you swim up river to spawn? [22:34] rivers were frozen:( [22:35] nix_chix0r, photo's or it didn't happen! [22:35] wtf ? [22:35] Bojevnik_ (n=Bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] tecky: umm, that's O [22:35] OK, too. [22:35] she's a lady, i seen photos of her for real [22:35] tecky: she is a friend of the channel.. No need to harrass her. [22:36] thanks thumbs [22:36] a great friend at that. :) [22:36] nix_chix0r: of course. [22:36] nix_chix0r++ [22:36] tecky, if you get out more you will notice there are lots of females in the outside world, most are good looking too [22:37] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:37] lol [22:38] Pig_Pen: He was just looking for flying pigs because he seen a girl in here, he probably wouldn't notice the good looking girls outside. :P [22:38] however i do believe slackware using Linux loving chics are rare [22:38] *sigh* you young kids >.> [22:38] its a dude man [22:38] take everything said to heart [22:38] Pig_Pen: there were an awful lot of adjective in that sentence [22:38] or a fat chick [22:38] chowabunga: please. stop it. [22:38] this is IRCCCCCCCCCCCCC [22:39] rofl chowabunga 300kg more to looooove [22:39] chowabunga: IRC still demands respect for regulars. [22:39] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:39] thumbs, i hated school [22:39] hello all [22:40] highschool? [22:40] school is for losers [22:40] nix_chix0r: my point was lost. Sorry. [22:40] go through it, pressure and all that shit you put through to make what you'd make if you worked for four years. [22:40] school is fun if its free [22:40] no it's all good [22:40] working < school [22:40] gradeschool, junior high and highschool [22:40] i know i'm not a 800lb woman [22:40] this is funny [22:40] no way, school sucks! [22:41] school was greuling for me [22:41] hey ananke. How are you? [22:41] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.89.5) joined ##slackware. [22:41] when does Kiddy Hour end? [22:41] firebird619 : just fine, thanks [22:41] skibur_ (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) joined ##slackware. [22:41] danc3, as soon as you part [22:41] whoa ananke [22:41] school was cakelike for me [22:41] 8 more minutes 10pm is quiet time [22:41] jeev: heh. right. [22:41] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [22:41] school was easy for me but i see a bunch of morons graduating who shouldn't be. [22:41] more are dropping out [22:41] yet another thunderstorm is rolling through. thank god i had a chance to mow the lawn today [22:42] if they graduate they are more than average imo [22:42] hehe [22:42] ananke: I need to mow ours.. I fertilized it last week... big mistake [22:42] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:42] ananke, same here, cut it as soon as I heard about it [22:42] Action: firebird619 waves hello to Old_Fogie [22:42] hey firebird619 [22:42] if we keep emitting all this CO2 devil gas, the grass and trees will choke us in our sleep! [22:42] mine was two weeks old, and it looked like a jungle [22:43] choke us with oxygen [22:43] i dont bother to fertilize or pull weeds, i dont care what grows in my lawn but whatever grows in it better learn to survive being very short [22:43] hi Old_Fogie:) [22:43] hitest, :) [22:43] :) [22:43] Pig_Pen, hahah good motto [22:43] When I plug my graphics tablet in, I always have to restart before the pen works as a mouse. Is there something I could restart so that I don't have to restart each time? [22:43] Pig_Pen, some times I wish I'd just pave it, and paint it green. [22:43] been raining here the last couple of days too, but with the NE Alberta brush fires it's needed. [22:43] firebird619, you mean restart X? [22:44] that can be expsive if you have a large lawn Old_Fogie [22:44] expensive* [22:44] yeah but the time savings, fuel savings, I dunno, it's kinda tempting [22:44] :) [22:44] ccfreak2k: Hmmm, I haven't tried restarting just X. [22:45] Old_Fogie: astro turf. :P [22:45] just water it with diesel fuel then you wont have to worry about mowing it anymore ;p [22:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] firebird619, yea true that's an option (/me scratches head) [22:46] :) [22:46] I like gardening, cutting grass is kind a boring tho [22:46] ccfreak2k: I'll try restarting x and see if that works. Thanks. [22:46] i think i will take some photos of my back yard tomarrow, lots of trees with their leaves still fresh & green [22:46] Old_Fogie: ive got veggies and herbs starting...bout 2-3mo late here in fl [22:46] but still...cool stuff [22:47] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] acidkill, yeah I got a lot of mine still potted from seedlings, gotta move em' outside soon. [22:47] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:47] ccfreak2k: that works. Thanks again. [22:47] acidkill : here you're pretty much guaranteed to lose seedlings due to frost, if you plant before may 1st [22:48] ok, I think I'm gonna head to the TV then crash, now. [22:48] later thumbs. :) [22:48] every time i try to grow vegetables wild animals eat them [22:48] eat the wild animals then [22:48] ive got herritage tomatoes, and then normal cellery, 3 kinda of peppers, purple and lemon basil, oregino, onions, chives, camomile, thyme, rosemary [22:48] good idea [22:48] BBQ at Pig_Pen's house! [22:48] ananke: im in FL...we havent had frost since feb [22:49] VampirePenguin (n=Vi3PP@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [22:49] and moving plants into garage is easy even in december heh [22:49] see you thumbs [22:49] geeez you got the whole garden thing going. i can't wait till i can grow in my garden [22:49] really sandy soil though [22:49] acidkill, cellery huh, that's a tuff one. I dont get much luck with that [22:49] nix_chix0r: same here [22:49] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] Old_Fogie: mine arent doing good at all, weak looking [22:49] very weak [22:49] i did plant a peach and apricot tree in the back yard hoping in a few years they get too tall and produce enough fruit that the animals cant eat them all and i can make some jam or preserves [22:49] acidkill : my chives started coming out in february, through the snow [22:49] took 3weeks to sprout [22:49] acidkill, yea there tuff [22:50] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [22:50] Pig_Pen, squirrels luv the fruits, they smell em' a mile a way [22:50] im not exactly sure...but chives are a type of garlic..right? [22:50] yeah, we have lots of squirrels [22:50] acidkill : yeah. somewhere between green onions and garlic [22:51] i want to grow red peppers and onions because they are so damn expensive here [22:51] acidkill, yeah they can grow in almost anything tho. [22:51] hello, I'm trying to build the id3lib slackbuild but it fails with "checking for iomanip.h... no" as far as I know this should be present with gcc-g++? [22:51] i thought so...i couldnt find real garlic got some of them [22:51] just my bad luck buying a house in the woods [22:51] Pig_Pen: learn to shoot =D [22:51] nix_chix0r : onions are expensive? interesting [22:51] nix_chix0r, that makes sense. I grow the yellow peppers too, the one's that make you scream for "Mommy!" cuz they're so hot ! [22:51] nix_chix0r: peppers are easy to grow...so far it seems heh [22:51] i can shoot good, i just dont want to spend all my time in the back yard babysitting my fruit trees [22:51] acidkill : you do know that with chives you don't eat the bulbs, but the 'leaves', right? [22:51] acidkill, yea they're very robust [22:52] ive got chilis, anaheims and something else [22:52] Pig_Pen, same here i live in the woods so there isnt always a lot of sun and our soil is very sandy by the house. so i bet if i treat it with some miracle grow mix in some other dirt maybe it'll hold more minerals and shit wont die [22:52] ananke: the green shoots, ya [22:52] crap.. that explains alot [22:52] we have bedrock, dig down about a foot and its all like a bunch of pebbles glued together with cement [22:52] acidkill : k, just wanted to make sure you're not substituting garlic with chives :) [22:52] nix_chix0r, the one decent thing with sandy dirt is the drainage. some plants like a mix of soil that drains well. [22:53] nix_chix0r, helps for the aeration too. [22:53] ananke: hahaha no but im planning on eating lots of baked taters =D [22:53] nix_chix0r : i have the exact opposite. go down 3", and you have clay [22:53] ive got yellow hybrid onions and burgundy ones [22:53] growing nice [22:53] acidkill : ohh yeah. chives are awesome for that [22:53] Pig_Pen, yeah same here, 6mont's of frozen snow all around does it to us here [22:53] there might be clay i just haven't dug that deep [22:53] and the purple basil is going really nice, super aeromatic [22:54] acidkill : i'm trying some thai basil this year, we'll see how it does [22:54] i just have to be careful about tomatoes last year i had so many people were sick of all the tomatoes i was making into soups sauce ect [22:54] giving it away [22:54] nix_chix0r, hahah [22:54] im starting with a 20x10ft triangular planter this year [22:54] and if goes well [22:54] speaking of herbs, my lovage is already 3" tall [22:54] i might make a larger one in the yard, h ave 1.25 acres here [22:54] between Tampa and Orlando...so...tons of sun and rain in summer [22:54] tomatos and green beans are the hardest to can without botulism setting in, something about those two items [22:55] soil sucks, but i can improve that with a trip to lowes or HD [22:55] i think one tomato plant should be good enough for me this year [22:55] and 3 pepper plants:)) [22:55] Pig_Pen: good to know, i was going to do beans too [22:56] nix_chix0r: hah, thats what i have in my one starter, Rutgers heritage tomatos, and 3 kinds of peppers [22:56] green beans are the same thing as pinto beans, let them dry on the vine and then pick em and remove the husk [22:56] then the weak celery, the other one is herbs...144 seedlings going [22:56] the tomatoes are beasts [22:56] Action: chopp looks around wondering how the heck he ended up in #greenthumb [22:56] my god, they are like the hulk growing [22:56] hahah [22:56] we make a lot of curries so it's nice to have a lot of peppers and onions and other good herbs on hand fresh [22:57] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:57] our strawberry plants, only about 20' long bed now, started as one plant only a few years back, maybe 2 or 3. Put them on the south side of the house, man are they doing fantastic. We get about, mmm, maybe 2-3 (5) gallon bucket worth, it's awesome. Had strawberry presserves all winter. [22:57] a safer thing to do to preserve tomatos is to cook in to spaghetti sause and then put in a jar and freeze, should last about 6 months to a year [22:57] Pig_Pen, yup [22:57] hmm, and now it's really pouring. it's been raining every day for about 10 days now [22:58] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.119.160) joined ##slackware. [22:58] just do not fill the jars too full or freezing will break them, leave about an inch below the rim [22:59] meh [22:59] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:00] Pig_Pen, we 'stew' alot of ours, so depending on what's cooking, we can go from there. [23:00] same with green beans when you pick them, just wash em and freeze in freezer bags [23:00] linux is so difficult, i keep rm -rf'n /* and then i cant do anything, STUPID LINUX! [23:00] tecky: ... [23:00] tecky, maybe it pebkac ? [23:00] lol [23:00] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] tecky: tried rehab? [23:00] rm ##slackware/tecky [23:01] check for the symlink, ls -al /dev |grep pebkac ? [23:01] no I'm kidding :) [23:01] try a handgun. [23:01] tecky: join ##noobuntu [23:01] i'm not. [23:01] Dear Linux, Why must you be so difficult! I keep trying to perfect your operation by those guys in the ##slackware channels suggustions, and all i end up with is OPERATING SYSTEM CANNOT BE FOUND, PRESS ANY KEY TO REBOOT [23:01] :P [23:02] pebkac is a problem than can be hard to solve [23:02] tecky: try a hand gun. step1 shoot yourself. step2 if you still have problems, go back to step1 [23:03] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] of course the same methodology can be applied to sledgehammers [23:03] spook, why must you give such complex instructions! UGH! [23:03] if your only tool is a hammer all problems start looking like nails [23:04] bmxer (i=1000@c9346884.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:04] if your only tool is a hammer, nails nails nails nails nails nails [23:04] litigation, does not allow for easy instructions [23:05] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:05] heh, I just noticed that inkscape has an Ubuntu color palette. [23:05] wow, its past my bedtime, since i dont work weekends i will stay up late as long as the wifey dont object [23:06] Pig_Pen: does the wife strictly enforce your bedtime. :) [23:07] firebird619: obviously you're not married [23:07] she doesnt strictly enforce it, but you still have to go to bed on time [23:07] man i thought i had the only wife that did that [23:08] now i feel better :D [23:08] misery loves company [23:08] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) joined ##slackware. [23:08] in some cases you have to go to bed same time as her [23:08] Old_Fogie: thats what she said [23:08] yea she wants to do cuddles [23:08] or she wants you to hold her while you watch tv [23:09] fart enuff times in bed, they'll stop asking you come in there, fwiw. [23:09] when you want to stay on computer and read rss feeds and read forums [23:09] Old_Fogie: i can tell you i have tried that, it does not work [23:10] spook: no, I'm not. :) [23:10] Old_Fogie is older than you. [23:10] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.19.13) joined ##slackware. [23:10] hmm [23:10] firebird619: thats why i said obviously [23:10] I got a healthy diet, works for me. [23:10] :) [23:10] i fail at trolling, even when i try :( [23:10] god [23:10] spook: :) [23:11] stef_208 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:11] hell when we were in Cali i farted so hard onced. I shit the bed. She still made me come back [23:11] skibur_ (n=skibur@12.197.205.248) left irc: "Leaving" [23:12] more than we needed to know [23:12] firebird619: no shes cool [23:12] chopp, ++ [23:12] i figured that. but i just wanted to point out that Farting does not work :D [23:13] not if you're wife has a skat fettish you never knew of :) [23:13] lol [23:13] bahahahahahhahaha [23:13] ill tell her that hehehehehehe [23:13] thats nasty [23:13] i am laughing so damn hard right now [23:13] I could imagine that "hey honey, I'm telling these random people on the interwebs, the time I pooped the bed..." :) [23:14] ha-ha [23:14] Winter__ (n=Winter@75-121-152-169.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Old_Fogie: that would be a rookie mistake [23:14] spook, roger that [23:14] dngr (n=dngr@n112118130203.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] Old_Fogie and that is what i am going to tell her [23:14] she will laugh her ass off at me. [23:14] the interwebs is like vegas, what happens there stays there [23:15] agreed [23:15] she should be getting out of the movie soon. it will be great [23:15] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:16] lotec, well go for broke then man, shit the bed before she gets home for old times sake I say :) [23:16] Old_Fogie i am not home. [23:16] "Honey, I was having a trip down memory lane and thought of you :)" [23:16] pics or you didn't have the balls to do it. :P [23:17] if i was home i would sure think about it. [23:17] she is in FL, i am in KS [23:17] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [23:17] you in a shitty relationship? [23:17] now i work away from home [23:18] keoni (i=1000@208-106-15-140.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:18] that's tuff, I dont envy that. [23:18] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.119.160) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:19] wow, channel topic tonight from school is for loosers, to my vegetable garden, to honey I shit the bed. [23:19] I'm a creature of habbit tho, so that certainly dont help [23:19] its a relationship without the good bits [23:19] if it was not for the amount of cash i made i would not do it [23:19] chopp, well we can change it to "they got a huge garage sale here for the whole county" :) [23:19] awsome!! [23:19] chopp, you know I love my garage sales..over 300 counters :) [23:20] I likes garage sales. [23:20] but it has gave us alot of Freedom to purchase what we want. Buy a new house [23:21] heck ya, plus they got one of them chinese cheapy tool companies that sell stuff, so you get a drill for like 10 bux, take it home, it may last a day, a month, or a lifetime you never know. a true surprise in each box :) [23:21] plus this job will give me the experance i need to get a more Unix/Linux based job where i can stay at home in a few years i hope [23:24] bbl.....got to give my kid a bath. [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:27] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] gotta go, sleepytime for me, have a good weekend everybody [23:27] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:29] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] keoni (i=1000@208-106-15-140.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Zozma_ (n=Winter@98-125-102-11.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:32] hmm. question for anyone who knows: "mdadm -r /dev/sda2 /dev/md0" to remove a device from an array, then fdisk to set partition type of sda2 to 83 (Linux), then "mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/tmp"... works fine, but not without the "-t reiserfs" [23:32] it says mount: unknown filesystem type 'mdraid' [23:32] (what I'm trying to do is split up a 4-drive raid1 into a 3-drive raid1 and a single non-RAID partition) [23:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:33] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [23:33] what I'm trying to find out is, where's it getting that "mdraid" fstype from, and how can I change it? [23:34] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:34] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.19.13) left irc: "Leaving" [23:35] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:39] anyone have any experience setting up mozilla's bespin app? [23:41] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-223.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] welp, I'm heading on out, night night everybody :) [23:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:43] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:46] Hmm, I just tried to print from inkscape and get this: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed" [23:46] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:48] Heya,folks...How is everyone doin' for the {$time_of_day}? [23:48] Hello MLanden. I'm doing very well. How are you? [23:48] Doin' fine for the evenin' thanks,firebird619 [23:49] firebird619: do you still have sane installed? [23:49] chopp: yes [23:49] What should the permissions for /dev/null be? I need to write to it as the normal user. But root prevents it. [23:50] I think iam going to to a fresh install when i am freh later today [23:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] firebird619: allright. I had just read that hplip requires it. [23:50] firebird619: scanner still givin' you trouble? [23:51] MLanden: No, printing from inkscape. :) [23:51] I am in the process of downloading via turrent and burning discs 3 through 6. [23:52] chopp: The file prints from, for example, Kview, so I guess it's an inkscape specific issue. [23:52] Ugh, but the formatting is way off. [23:52] and it doesn't look right at all. [23:53] firebird619: OK..good luck [23:54] MLanden: Thanks. [23:55] TopBunny88: you have disks 1 and 2 allready? [23:55] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [23:55] Yes i do Chop [23:55] Yes i do chopp [23:55] allright [23:57] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [23:58] bmxer (i=1000@c9346884.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:58] chopp: well, I think I figured out why it didn't print right from other apps. It's expanding it out to a full letter size sheet of paper, instead of maintaining the size I made it. :P [23:59] firebird619: ahh that would mess it up for sure. [00:00] --- Sat May 9 2009