[00:01] for some reason, I get a "CRC error" everytime I upgrade to a new kernel in Ubuntu. [00:01] but, once i do an upgrade, I can boot into the previous one I had upgraded before [00:01] LOL [00:02] so Im always one kernel upgrade behind [00:02] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-28-84.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] slackware come with any software to connect to windows network shares? [00:02] need to pull some data from a computer [00:02] foureyes779: lol....the kernel gives CRC errors? [00:02] dhw, samba [00:02] that's what I was thinking, never used it before. [00:02] MLanden_lap: tried another one that know worked and nothing [00:03] dhw, its pretty easy [00:03] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [00:03] yeah, at bootup [00:04] artv61: which driver did Slackware's assign to it? [00:04] Well, flash works... had an old .so lying around gumming up the works. [00:05] does not seem to be installed [00:05] MLanden_lap: how would i find that sir [00:06] artv61: dmesg...no need to sir me [00:06] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.53.164) left irc: "leaving" [00:07] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) joined ##slackware. [00:07] user accounts including their original passwords ... what files must I copy to do this? [00:08] hba (n=hba@189.188.146.54) left irc: "leaving" [00:08] artv61: what's wrong, my support isn't goot enough for you any more? [00:08] MLanden_lap: yes, ma'am? [00:08] sorry, i mean: iam migrating one box to another.. but I would like to migrate the user accounts including their original passwords ... what files must I copy to do this? [00:08] notKlaatu: u werent on [00:08] artv61: sure, sure [00:08] lol....sir's right...but no need on formalities [00:09] MLanden_lap: :D i know, just giving ya crap. [00:09] hba (n=hba@189.188.146.54) joined ##slackware. [00:09] :D [00:10] I mean... just giving you crap, sir! [00:10] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:11] Nick change: MLanden_lap -> Peppermint_Patty [00:11] :D [00:11] Nick change: Peppermint_Patty -> MLanden_lap [00:12] crooopia [00:12] epaphus: copy the passwd, group and shadow files. [00:12] agentc0re, thats all? cool [00:12] MLanden_lap: where is driver listed in there [00:13] I did a 10mi mountain bike ride today which involved a 1hr hold over at the local pub for some IPA [00:13] dmesg | grep eth0 [00:14] it says no ipv6 routers present and oversizedethrnet frame [00:14] antiwire: heh, the only way to mountain bike. :D [00:14] ;) [00:16] bhaki (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) joined ##slackware. [00:17] bhaki (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:18] artv61:does the via chip show up next to eth0? 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Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC."). [00:24] MLanden_lap: sorry but now u r losing me [00:24] all he wanted was a Hi, but you guys just didn't provide. [00:24] I have openoffice 3.0.1 in slackware 12.1 and suddenly it just doesnt stop crashing everytime that I try to run it [00:25] i am fairly new [00:25] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [00:26] It is screwed I tried running it from different user accounts but the result is the same [00:26] artv61: go to console....log into root....type modprobe via_rhine [00:26] ok [00:28] artv61: try dhcpcd eth0 [00:28] MLanden_lap: lsmod says n used by column 0 [00:29] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [00:30] ok,artv61..in dmesg..at the end..anything? 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[00:38] MLanden_lap: any suggestions? [00:39] i believe this happened after power flicker [00:39] but not sure wasnt home [00:40] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] hrmm, sorry to butt in but i take it you have a via rhine nic that is fubared and ifconfig is not helping. does cycling the module help? modprobe -r module; modprobe module? [00:41] on a good note slack13 works great on an old dell i have [00:41] mancha: i will try anything [00:42] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:42] is that what i type mancha [00:43] what is the name of the module/driver? [00:43] lsmod should tell you [00:44] mancha: thanks [00:44] viarhine [00:45] MLanden_lap, sorry to butt in midway, i can butt back out since i;m just doing guesswork here [00:45] dissociative (n=hector@adsl190-28-180-48.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] via_rhine [00:45] mancha: would it matter what filesystem he had installed ? [00:46] I have heard that EXT4 doesnt like power surges much [00:46] try modprobe -r via_rhine and then modprobe via_rhine [00:46] no thanks for the extra input [00:46] foureyes779: you have heard correctly [00:46] was thinkin if maybe some of the files had been corrupted [00:47] ah ok, hard to separate sarcasm from not on irc and the last thing i want is to add static to an ongoing convo [00:47] foureyes779, my power just went dead about 4-5 hours ago with EXT4, booted up no problem with no data loss that I can see [00:47] Action: foureyes779 shuts up [00:47] had to throw that in, it is basically the only thing I know.... [00:47] heh [00:47] foureyes779, of course, that's only a single anecdote :) [00:47] the via chips can be PITA and sensitive to surges [00:48] oh geez, i hope it didn't fry your nic, if it did then you're sol. [00:49] MLanden_lap: do u think i can b saved? [00:49] i do apprecate ll the help though [00:49] and my typing stinks [00:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:49] sorry [00:50] artv61: can you boot to a live cd and see if it causes the same results...if not,the bug might be against the kernel [00:50] art, did you cycle the module as i suggested, yet? [00:50] Action: foureyes779 has the YoVille song stuck in his head.... [00:50] naichecka (n=ian@199.111.221.230) joined ##slackware. [00:51] ok i know i am not the most fluent person in slack, but i know i shouldn't have 147processes and 93% of my processor being used and 1.3gb of ram [00:52] top should tell who are the worst offenders [00:52] mancha: yes and then ran dhcpcd etho and got mess dhcpcd already running [00:52] first kill dhcp [00:53] mornin [00:53] Quiznos, how are you [00:53] kill -9 $(cat /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.pid) and then rm that .pid file (iirc the filenames) [00:53] Almost. [00:54] check me on this; make allmodconfig; menuconfig: e3=y, nvid-fb=y; everything else module [00:54] is that all that's needed? fs and console-video? [00:54] as non-module [00:54] hi omni [00:55] With an initrd, everything can be a module. [00:55] Quiznos, i did the full install of slack64 and i didn't think about it but i looked at my processes and there are 147 running, 90%+ of my CPU, and 1.3gb of 5.8gb of ram being used [00:55] wow [00:55] any thoughts on what to thin out, or how to thin it out [00:55] pastebin.ca a ps fax output [00:55] MrHales no initrd [00:55] Nepomuk. Its family was eating about 80% of my cpu. [00:56] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [00:56] omni_schoolworks, type top -n 1, and put on pastebin [00:56] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [00:57] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [00:57] MrHales: musta been a hungry family? [00:57] http://pastebin.com/m792d1525 [00:57] sign your page omni_schoolworks [00:57] Quiznos: I'd avoided them in the past, but I must say it works pretty well. [00:57] Nick change: omni_schoolworks -> omnipotentduo [00:58] yea [00:58] printer can die (python) [00:58] are you on plasma? [00:58] MLanden: Very. Did some reading at the speed of ouch while my poor old 'puter struggled under the load. [00:58] omni, thats an incompolete top [00:59] yes [00:59] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:59] moo [00:59] could imagine,MrHales..sorry on that [00:59] ,ysqld is running, the hog :) [00:59] mancha, that wasn't top [00:59] it was ps fax [00:59] pkgtool will die. [01:00] omnipotentduo you really cant to preening while x11 is running [01:00] to/do [01:00] The concept of a semantic desktop is very cool, but I don't seem to have quite enough processors to cope with the coolness. ;-) [01:01] yeah i know, i am in the middle of a house episode, i was just trying to find out how i acctually go about keeping these different processes from starting [01:01] ask again when you're not running x [01:02] yeah [01:02] except for x11 and other gui apps, the rest are needed; k*, getty's, shells [01:02] you should not be at 80% when not doing stuff [01:02] you reall cant preen from that. [01:02] maybe use mgetty over agetty but really nothing more. [01:02] 147 procs is not something to worry about though, the resource usage though - is [01:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:03] omnipotentduo: have they started the new season of house already ? [01:03] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.204.135.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:03] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.125) left irc: "leaving" [01:03] i know, when i was running arch with KDE i was only using like 154mb with more than i have going on now [01:04] foureyes779, dunno trying to catch up on episodes now [01:04] omnipotentduo: aah [01:04] w/o seeing a top it's hard to know what's doing it [01:04] tnx [01:04] bbiaf [01:05] just a sec mancha, bear in mind i am using KDE right now [01:05] naichecka (n=ian@199.111.221.230) left ##slackware. [01:05] i won't hold that against you (j/k) :) [01:07] mancha, top is only showing a couple of processes, http://pastebin.com/d7522c557 [01:07] haha [01:07] brb dog [01:08] dialog is doing it all [01:08] you've got some runaway dialog process going on there, what is it doing? [01:09] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:11] Thom1 (n=thom1@79.87.118.133) joined ##slackware. [01:11] kyz (n=kyz@c-75-72-208-87.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] hi people [01:11] dusty__ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:12] unless you know it should be there, i'd kill it, kill -9 14100 [01:12] mancha, you think a reboot would give a better answer [01:12] reboot then top -n 1? [01:12] it happens every time, or just now? [01:13] kill the process omni [01:13] this is the first time i got curious, after i got some unusual latency for a linux distro for opening a 4th firefox window [01:13] killed the proc [01:14] anything improve? [01:14] cpu droped to 85% [01:15] do you have any tabs on ff open to sites with flash? [01:15] just one [01:15] close that tab, flash is the queen of cpu hogging [01:15] omnipotentduo: thats curious, I had the same problem when I was running PCBSD 64bit [01:16] and even that my cup (on other distros) was only around 22% [01:16] people use flash in slackware? o.O [01:16] i do, school work >< [01:16] zeether101 (n=z@96.251.192.31) joined ##slackware. [01:16] idle procs still at 55% [01:17] closed out ALL firefox and CPU still at 52 [01:17] my cpu usage should be at 2-4% right now [01:17] ok, now top should help...i have no idea what kde usually uses [01:18] hitting ctrl-esc will pull up the system activity monitor in KDE [01:18] http://pastebin.com/d39ec9c71 [01:18] wtf [01:19] okay, these dialog things are very worrisome, what are they doing there? [01:19] ps auxw | grep dialog [01:19] what is dialog doing? [01:19] dialog, fyi, handles those text based menus you see on the slackware install [01:19] "ps axfww|less", then search for dialog in less [01:20] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:20] (which is one way to find out its parent process. dialog isn't something you run standalone, it's always invoked as part of a script, like the slackware setup scripts) [01:20] you want that pastebin as well? [01:20] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:20] eh, I suppose [01:20] http://pastebin.com/d64073b15 [01:20] I just got here, dunno what's going on :) [01:21] how's it goin', Urchlay [01:21] i have 149 procs, 55% cpu usage at idle, and 1.1gb of 6 gb of ram. [01:21] thats slick [01:21] hm, so you're running pkgtool? Where? in a konsole? on the non-X console? [01:21] MLanden_lap: hola [01:21] was in a konsole about 2 days ago [01:22] i exited it then shut the konsole [01:22] it is still there and it's gone mad [01:22] the point of the "ps axfwww" was to see the line(s) above it. It shows you a "tree" view of your processes, so you can tell what the parent process was [01:22] but, eh, dialog's arguments tell me it's pkgtool [01:23] why don't you "kill -9 24866" to exterminate the rogue process? [01:23] i also kill -9 14100 [01:24] you did that before right? [01:24] http://pastebin.com/d21b853f6 [01:24] after that recheck for dialog processes [01:24] yes i did [01:24] and just did what Urchlay said [01:25] kill -9 14080 [01:25] that should end this nonsense [01:25] no such proc, what's the proc name [01:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] ok, then it's gone already [01:26] are cpu stats normal now? [01:26] yeah [01:26] around 6%, why was bash taking up so much? [01:26] something was racing there [01:26] hba (n=hba@189.188.146.54) left irc: "leaving" [01:26] like a mem leak? [01:27] not a memory leak, I guess you could think of as a "cpu leak" [01:27] braaains ! [01:27] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] ahh [01:28] look at lines 146-148 of your latest paste [01:28] you were in bash, you ran pkgtool, and pkgtool ran dialog [01:28] and it never exited [01:28] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) left ##slackware. [01:29] if you closed the konsole, that *should* have killed all 3, but apparently didn't (crap like that is why I use old-fashioned xterm instead of something like konsole) [01:29] what dialog was probably doing, was spinning in a tight loop, trying to read from its standard input and getting EOF over & over again [01:29] i usually do, but because i dont do boot to KDM i needed my web page [01:30] Action: MrHales is a big fan of typing "exit" instead of clicking the lil' red 'x'. [01:30] MrHales: or ctrl-D, if you haven't set ignoreeof [01:30] *nods* [01:30] honestly, I never ever exit my xterms, they start with X, and I never move or exit [01:31] er, never move them around, never spawn new xterms either [01:31] Only time I click to close a term is when I forget about ssh and konsole never quite gets the message that the remote said "Goodbye." [01:32] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [01:33] well CPU is back to normal, but i sill have way too many procs and too much ram being used, but i should probably unload some of the FULL kernel default stuff [01:34] Actually, if I have to touch my mouse, and I'm not gaming or drawing, there is a problem. [01:34] your proc number looks like a reasonable amount for someone running X and several apps [01:34] eh, you might want to use something other than KDE (windowmaker or fluxbox, or maybe xfce) [01:35] Urchlay, when i was running KDEmod and kubuntu my proc was around 40, and cpu around 3-5 and about 150mb of ram [01:35] of course if you run a non-KDE window manager, then start up KDE apps in it, it'll work... but you're back to using a ton of RAM (starting one KDE app starts up all the KDE daemons that do all kinds of neat things, but at a price...) [01:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:35] wtf, your CPU *idles* at 40%? Something's wrong there. [01:35] i know, sometimes its kind of irritating [01:35] 40 processes [01:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [01:36] oh [01:36] haha [01:36] mis-read that... [01:36] i do sometimes, and i dont structure thoughts and sentences all that well... [01:37] is fine, compared to the slavering hordes of myspace and twitter users, you're positively literate [01:37] lol [01:37] haha, the sad part is you are right. [01:38] Action: Urchlay considers putting beer in the freezer [01:38] Urchlay, are you in off topic? [01:38] whut r u tlkn ab0ut I tlk fyn [01:38] what, the offtopic channel? nah, is there an official one? [01:38] got a beer timer installed,Urchlay? [01:39] or were you asking if beer's offtopic? Not for ##slackware it's not :) [01:39] yeah, kinda ##slackofftopic [01:39] i homebrew, beer is always related with me [01:39] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:39] kind of like tits [01:39] There was an offtopic channel one day when a heated political/religious debate took over the place. [01:41] what's it called? not #slackofftopic (nobody there, just checked) [01:41] ## [01:41] Action: omnipotentduo did the same thing a few days ago [01:42] MLanden_lap: mancha thank you foryour help guys ,had no luck with live cd ,think chip may b screwed [01:43] sorry to hear of it,artv61...can always usb it for ethernet or wireless...good luck [01:44] eek, that sucks [01:44] Speaking of politics, how about that Obama? [01:44] ^_^ [01:44] i do have a usb wireless dongle [01:44] Action: omnipotentduo points at the next chan over [01:45] maybe i'll try that [01:45] thx again [01:45] artv61: np...good luck [01:47] ##slackoffastroturfing [01:48] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-132-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Who is astroturfing? [01:52] http://www.asgi.us/ < --- them. ;-) [01:52] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FED24.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:56] uva (i=bno@118-160-173-80.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] dartmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [02:06] kyz (n=kyz@c-75-72-208-87.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:09] Styllles (n=Jully@201.10.74.104) joined ##slackware. [02:15] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:15] napshot: 2.6.31-rc9-git1 <-- when it goes stable, you'll shit bricks [02:18] do you know a card graphic with a very good performance opensource driver ? [02:18] intels crap [02:18] Intel is about the only one. [02:18] i will stick with nvidia and nvidia's prop drivers [02:18] Maybe the Matrox ones. [02:19] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [02:19] ok so maybe nvidia+prop drivers is a better choice [02:20] My main system is a laptop with an nvidia NV110 Quadro. It's solid but there are no opensource 3D drivers yet. [02:20] I use the prop drivers [02:20] Stylles (n=Jully@201.89.0.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:21] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-225-239.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:21] morning [02:22] hi slackytude [02:22] I'm using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.18-pkg1.run [02:22] y0 Thom1 [02:22] ok antiwire [02:22] thanks for your answers [02:22] kde4's hibernation works flawless for me ^-^ [02:23] MLanden_lap1 (n=lilslack@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] you poke your laptop with a stick while it's hibernating, and it growls & swipes a claw at you? 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[02:26] it means smash it harder [02:26] hi [02:26] www.heroesofnewerth.com this game is now taking all my freetime lol [02:26] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:27] dont hit my machines, dudes. it needs some love [02:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:29] who's hittin' machines? [02:30] Nick change: fire|bird -> machine|hitter [02:30] MLanden_lap: I am. So..... ? :P [02:30] MLanden_lap: the guys in the movie Office Space? [02:30] batter up.......(O)_(X)....ouch [02:30] i probably buy a new pc, but i don't know anything about processor. I want a powerful pc not too expansive. Which processor do you suggest ? [02:30] Nick change: machine|hitter -> fire|bird [02:31] Thom1, the neon green one [02:32] it rockz [02:32] y0 slackytude [02:32] y0 fire|bird [02:32] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] my work machine did the hibernation [02:32] thats nice [02:32] Thom1: what's your average voltage? [02:32] slackytude, whats up [02:32] question on http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [02:32] When I am compiling 32-bit programs, I use this: [02:32] ". /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh [02:32] MLanden_lap, i don't know anything about electricity :( [02:32] What is it necessary to have the dot before? [02:32] Couldn't I do "sh /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh" [02:32] ? [02:32] redtricycle: no [02:33] just remember that when the box which sits on the ground acts strange, you must beat the part which sits on the desk. [02:33] this is common sense\ [02:33] I don't understand why it's different -- I looked at the script [02:33] redtricycle: the . means "run the commands from this file in the current shell" [02:33] redtricycle, the . means source [02:33] ah [02:33] how is that different from "sh /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh"? [02:34] the . can mean "source this" or "it's right here" [02:34] if you run it without the dot, it spawns a new shell... which exits right after the script is done (and child processes don't affect the environment of their parent, in UNIXey operating systems) [02:34] Okay, that makes sense [02:34] thanks, that was the answer I was looking for [02:34] sourcing includes it into your current proc [02:35] fire|bird, all fine with you? [02:35] slackytude: yeah, excellent here. you? [02:35] if you have midnight commander installed, type "alias mc"... see what neat trick it does to let midnight commander change the working directory of the shell it was called from [02:35] fire|bird, all fine except the fact that Im at work instead of bed, where I ought to be for at least some hours [02:35] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] lol [02:36] slackytude: you see that opera + unite builds are out now. v. 10.10 [02:36] nah, didnt see that [02:36] yup, they are out now, on the desktop team blog [02:38] Mr_M4g1c (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [02:38] morn [02:38] Mornin',Quiznos [02:38] hi [02:38] Quiznos. [02:39] hi [02:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:39] Any special issues with 64-bit alsa? [02:39] not that I'm aware of, and I've been using it for a while now [02:39] alsaconf didn't make my sound work [02:39] i have no issues [02:39] Confused..it worked on 32-bit [02:39] hm. I didn't need alsaconf to make my sound work, so no idea... [02:40] redtricycle hey; i just remembered you're a song. [02:40] i think [02:40] giuppy (n=giuppy@host100-62-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] there's a song about a red tricycle? [02:40] Quiznos: cool? [02:40] Camarade1Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:40] I had no idea =P [02:40] Quiznos: PLEASE don't sing it, PLEASE. :) [02:40] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] a song that starts out "bicycle. bicycle" [02:40] WhiteMagic (n=white@p549FD8B5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] too late [02:40] queen [02:40] I always thought the red tricycle came from "pink floyd: the wall", the animated section [02:40] i can sing [02:40] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [02:40] duno [02:41] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] Urchlay, when is there a red tricycle un "the wall" ? [02:41] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] in [02:41] early Pink Floyd with Syd Barret,I think [02:41] alisonken1noc [02:41] wine takes a while to compile... [02:41] 2, 3 hours? [02:41] www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugsCdLHm-Q ? [02:41] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.248) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Thom1: actually, it's not in the movie, it's in the graphics they showed on the screen behind the band, when they did "the wall" live (it's also in the MTV video for "another brick part 2") [02:42] i think a girl at the local walmart is growing sweet on me [02:42] Urchlay, ok [02:42] Thom1: it was done in the same style as the movie animation, I guess it was cut from the movie [02:43] that's good,Quiznos..as long as it's not the door greeter..:D [02:43] she's a cashier [02:43] Quiznos: so, the poor girl must be blind and deaf eh? :P [02:43] saw her yesterday; she asked me to visit her there again [02:44] i sat with her while she did lunch hour; she kept asking me what i was thinking, trying to guess [02:44] nah, neither [02:44] fire|bird, that reminds me, for some reason my opera lost my speed dial and my mail settings [02:44] slackytude: yikes. Just out of the blue? [02:45] she gave me her email and web addy [02:45] good question...are they interchangable between versions? [02:45] fire|bird, pretty much [02:46] slackytude: and I'm guessing nothing changed otherwise. [02:46] to spark this issue [02:46] opera is really a bane to me [02:46] MLanden_lap generally, mail and dialer dont change tween ver [02:47] maybe if you fixed ALL your pc issues with a reinstall, you'd have better luck. :) [02:47] but opera will cowardly give up if mail settings aint just right [02:47] and lock you out of it [02:47] opera, by default, doesn't even have mail settings [02:47] thanks Quiznos...always wondered that [02:47] you have to create them [02:47] yw [02:47] i have a hate hate relationship with opera [02:47] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:48] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [02:48] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) joined ##slackware. [02:48] giuppy (n=giuppy@host100-62-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:48] MLanden_lap: Often times, opera changes mail format (same format, both various improvements, etc.) between releases, however, when you begin using the new version, it automatically converts all that is necessary to work. [02:49] kernel compile takes longer the faster my box is [02:49] reskljgjil (n=78910@ppp-202-176-173-148.revip.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [02:49] fire|bird, nope [02:49] fire|bird: good to hear [02:49] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) joined ##slackware. [02:49] does anyone know what cslistener on port 9000 does? [02:50] fire|bird, Im gonna see if a reboot fixed it, otherwise I'll just add the entries again, still weird tho [02:50] MLanden_lap: of course, sometimes something can happen that causes issues, but that's with anything that gets updated/upgraded, and hence why backups are a good idea. [02:50] http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2022&l=1341&u_id=363435 [02:50] lolwut, counter strike? [02:50] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] slackytude: yeah, very weird. I was trying to think if opera makes backups on it's own of things, but I don't think that option is quite there yet. [02:50] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] fire|bird: true [02:50] Nick change: Camarade1Tux -> Camarade_Tux [02:51] fire|bird, oh well, could have been worse [02:51] MLanden_lap: Although lately I've been using different browser and e-mail apps. I've used opera since 6.x and had very, very minor issues that entire time. [02:51] slackytude, i dont know I just pulled up netwatch and sh-adult01.flatbox.nl is connected to my box on port 9000 and idk wtf it is [02:51] slackytude: yeah, sure could have. imap ftw!!! eh? :P [02:51] fire|bird, yepp ^-^ [02:52] otherwise that would have been really painful. [02:52] yepp :| [02:52] lolwut, well, kill it and see what breaks [02:53] alias stab() { killall -9g "$*" } [02:53] heh [02:53] Wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] netstat -p to see what process is using port 9000 [02:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.248) joined ##slackware. [02:54] or -tp to leave out unix sockets, mehaps [02:54] EgoX (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Connection timed out [02:54] reskljgjil (n=78910@ppp-202-176-173-148.revip.asianet.co.th) left irc: K-lined [02:55] damn fool on radio says 1. "atlantis is below the pacific ocean tween oz and india; 2. "atlantis is the land of west of Babylonia (east of Shinar; shee'nar) [02:55] confusing fool [02:56] he's a liar [02:56] hmm, turns out it was the music I was streaming from amaorak, its just weird that it was using port 9000 rather then 80. [02:56] and prolaby no one knows [02:56] or hears that [02:56] yeah between Oz and India.....that would be the Indian..:P [02:56] Atlantis.. like Atlantic Ocean. Dude's in the wrong hemisphere? [02:56] nods [02:56] i think he's on the wrong planet [02:57] listenin' to Art Bell,Quiznos? [02:57] personally my opinion is that "Atlantis" is ancient memory of the land which split apart after noah's flood [02:57] don't you watch Stargate? Atlantis is in a different galaxy apparently.. [02:57] MLanden_lap yea; but Bell isnt on now. [02:57] heh UrchLa [02:57] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:58] one of Noah's grand-son's, Peleg; during his lifetime tectonic activity split the one land into the continents we see now [02:58] we dont know how fast the continents moved during that split [02:59] from the ancients....would be a lot of different land masses and lost islands [02:59] the current speed cannot be related to how fast they started to move; there's no delta-v info available to dtermine initial speed [02:59] yea but bible said "one land, one people, one speech" [03:00] and tey all lived on the land now called "middle east" [03:00] the sea (mediterrean) was there but we dont know what else [03:00] they knew of the sea, i mean [03:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:01] the kde rss reader thingy doesntz work for me [03:01] "dozen work me" [03:01] bleah [03:01] could you maybe not talk religion in here? it always starts a giant shitstorm, and nothing ever gets resolved [03:02] akregator,slackytude? [03:02] there's no storm [03:02] you're dreamin [03:02] MLanden_lap, nah, the plasma thingy [03:02] rssnow [03:02] how is history religion? [03:02] anybody got a rss feed with some activity [03:02] how to open a pdf file in console? [03:03] pdftotext file [03:03] Hey! [03:03] WhiteMagic (n=white@p549FD8B5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:03] Quiznos: thanks [03:03] yw; there's a svga frontend iinm too [03:04] probably can view the images on fb [03:04] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:04] What's up Quizno's [03:04] hihi nut much [03:04] slackytude: it won't fetch? [03:04] lol [03:05] fatalnix i think a girl is growing sweet on me :) [03:05] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:05] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:05] MLanden_lap, looks like it [03:05] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.30.248) left irc: Success [03:05] slackytude: this might help http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6160 [03:06] really? [03:06] i htink so [03:06] I have one on me too [03:06] but she's 26 and I'm 21 [03:06] I always liked older women [03:06] kool [03:06] heh [03:06] well, not always [03:07] she is twenty-six and you are twenty-one? [03:07] watching flash, my cpu usage is where it belongs at 11% [03:08] do you realize what this means? [03:08] what [03:08] it means you are awesome and your are experiencing awesomeness [03:08] lol [03:08] haha [03:08] LMAP [03:08] lmao*( [03:08] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] your are/you are [03:09] MLanden_lap, that looks like the issue, thanks [03:09] slackytude: np [03:09] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [03:09] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) left irc: "leaving" [03:10] oh yeah, I have to fix the modperl slackbuild cause its broken [03:11] hmm [03:11] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:11] channel your throbbing awesomeness into the .SlackBuild, you will do great. [03:11] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) joined ##slackware. [03:11] ... [03:11] are you toastytoast in disguise? [03:12] MLanden_lap, or maybe not [03:12] nevermind, toastytoast would call me douchebag [03:12] No, I just know ot never ask questions about things like this. [03:12] oh btw, proof of fast tectonic movement: antarctic has evidence of being formerly a temperate zoned landmass. forests and vegetation. [03:12] MLanden_lap, they say it might miss stuff but Ive got it [03:12] which is what caused me to start my new trend, the douche quote [03:12] MLanden_lap, does rssnow work for you? [03:12] fatalnix: I'll be the spokes person. [03:13] quit being PC antiwire [03:13] spokesman [03:13] Ok, spokesbitch [03:13] "Pressing emergency stop while anonymously attending an air tunneled sky diving lesson." "Douchebag..." [03:13] heh [03:13] not using KDE now....was flipping between DE's and came across the problem when I had KDE 4.1 installed...so I can't help you now,slackytude [03:14] hrm [03:14] gonna logout for a sex [03:14] heh [03:14] second [03:14] x and c is close [03:14] wow, you have to log out for that? :P [03:14] fastest draw in the west, to her chagrin [03:14] get a good deal,slackytude...:P [03:14] slackytude has "business time" to attend to [03:14] MLanden_lap: what wm/de do you use? [03:15] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU [03:15] speaking of rss, anyone know of an aggregator that'll float on your desktop and scroll the feed? [03:15] using LXDE on my lap...just did some upgrades to LXPanel to 0.5.3 [03:15] antiwire: When you were using kde4, did you disable nepomuk at all? That sure gives a speed increase. [03:15] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-fgdqjebnqrqthawg) left irc: "Page closed" [03:15] Stepping into the street in front of the nearest crotch rocket in sight (tripping position)" "douchebag..." [03:15] fire|bird: I kept it disabled [03:16] MLanden_lap: cool. I've tried that one before, it's not bad. [03:16] antiwire: same here. It was enabled by default though. [03:16] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:16] rarnz (n=rarnz@e179155174.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:17] had to jump twice from 3.5 to 4.1 to 5.3 to upgrade it...but it's not too bad [03:17] anyways.. [03:18] whoops meant to say 3.8.1 for lxpanel....had KDE on the brain for the first two [03:18] lol [03:19] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:19] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:19] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-23.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] lxde doesnt look too bad [03:19] I sue fluxbox though [03:19] use* [03:20] Me, too, maybe we can get a class-action and... oh, darn. [03:20] :-D [03:20] EWW [03:20] theres a pic of internet explorer in their desktop icon screenshots! ewwww! [03:20] mornin\ [03:21] What?! Who? Where? [03:21] on the lxde screenshots [03:21] Yes, it is, tewmten... here, at least. [03:21] morning tewmten [03:21] and its not the ies4linux icon, either [03:21] mornin', tewmten [03:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:22] Ew. Oh, and you mispelled that, btw, it's Internet Exploiter. [03:22] :-) [03:23] Styllles (n=Jully@201.10.74.104) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:23] haha [03:23] hi fire|bird =) [03:23] Internet Exposer [03:24] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.248) left irc: Connection timed out [03:25] what about exposure? [03:25] Nah. Micro$oft helped China censor the Internet. In that case it'd be Internet Obfuscator. [03:25] did I hear pr0n? [03:25] moh2a (n=mohaa@188.115.67.233) joined ##slackware. [03:25] They did? [03:26] I didnt think microsoft did that [03:26] Pretty sure. [03:26] tewmten: tewmten tewmten ! [03:26] acidchild!! [03:26] it kinda stinks they use BSD on lots of their network [03:26] including msn [03:26] networks* [03:26] acidchild: how's it going in canada, eh? [03:26] :D [03:26] alllrriiiteee thanks [03:27] or else they would get ddossed every day [03:27] enjoyed a nice long weekend with the gf in bed [03:27] yourself/ [03:27] oh about the same hehe [03:27] tmi [03:27] ah, yes... she's gone home now =] freeee timmeee [03:27] wooohoo haha [03:27] Oh, M$ is real big on the whole Open Source movement. Big proponents. Lets them cherry-pick and continue their company policy of Embrace, Extend, and Eliminate. [03:28] tewmten: pix? [03:28] Sort of like they did with web standards not too awful long ago before the W3C got back on top of their game. [03:28] acidchild: of what? my g/f choking on my cock?! you sick little pervert! [03:28] haha no cock in the picture plz ;< [03:28] haha [03:28] just his gf chocking, yoe mean? [03:29] lol [03:29] :D [03:29] never, EVER say anything about porn in ##slackware.. not to self.. [03:29] josefig (n=josefig@200.92.18.39) joined ##slackware. [03:29] indeed. [03:29] ;) [03:29] what about porn? [03:29] so whens slackware ME coming out? [03:29] tewmten: porn is good :D sometimes [03:30] some of it is hilarious [03:30] I've seen some the funniest porn [03:30] she cleaned everyday in her lil uniform [03:30] Action: fatalnix steps away slowly [03:30] cooked me some badass meals and cookies [03:30] ahhh life is goood [03:30] good ole' firefucks on windows [03:30] keeps on crashing [03:30] ;o [03:31] Styllles (n=Jully@201.10.74.104) joined ##slackware. [03:31] http://7a69.co.uk/~ash/metwo.jpg [03:31] acidchild: yeah man, my girl brought some nice stuff back from bulgaria for me.. [03:31] ^_^ [03:31] acidchild: like this little pots you make in the oven, very delicious food [03:31] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.150) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:31] Action: MrHales twitches. "ME.... *urp*... excuse *gag* me..." [03:31] made of what? [03:31] and some good ole' balkan moonshine a la rakia [03:31] Action: MrHales yawns in technicolor while pondering the wonders Gates hath wrought. [03:31] ok [03:31] wow nice [03:32] acidchild: ah its just small pots, then you put whatever stuff in there :) [03:32] the only problem with mod_perl was that the man pages werenever compiled [03:32] I mean [03:32] pt in /tmp [03:32] bleh [03:32] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [03:32] tewmten: what is bulgarian cookin' like? [03:33] tewmten: dude dont send me facal pix ;/ [03:33] thats gross [03:33] why is your cum got green specs in it? [03:33] ok [03:33] MLanden_lap: its lekker [03:33] weird [03:34] ahh....bon appetit,tewmten [03:34] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:34] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:36] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XrHOXdacolw/Rw9S_VdzdII/AAAAAAAABuY/LCE8iGdyyIA/s400/Picture_4.jpg [03:36] filled with stuff [03:37] yummmyyy [03:37] its common thing in balkan, turkey, and that area of europe [03:37] mm [03:37] yah [03:37] not been to europe in a while ;< [03:38] too bad [03:38] you should [03:38] the grass is greener here [03:38] and im not talking about the lawn ;) [03:38] ahaha yeah indeed... =] i should come drop by some time once you get a new pad [03:39] =D [03:39] ok, now to learn how to sue modperl [03:39] heh [03:39] sure thing [03:39] acidchild: the plan is to try and get a place were we can have friends come visit also [03:39] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:39] acidchild: the girl said she want to invite her friends also.. [03:39] that would be nice. [03:39] yeahhh [03:39] acidchild: so i let you know, how it goes :) [03:39] then you have sofa/bed to crash at ;) [03:40] nice [03:40] hm [03:40] should i put myself up for a few weeks of escalation standby perhaps [03:41] yeeaah.. get some extra money ;) [03:41] i'm thinking of getting a second fulltime job [03:41] maybe somewhere corperate... [03:41] acidchild, O_o [03:41] Action: slackytude slaps acidchild [03:41] hehe [03:41] i wana do pen/vulv stuff [03:41] and not PCI related stuff [03:42] -shrugs- [03:43] Action: acidchild beats slackytude [03:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:43] damnit [03:43] why so much breadcrumbs from this focaccia [03:43] life sucks [03:43] :/ [03:43] acidchild, a second fulltime job? are you insane? [03:43] nope [03:43] take care,slackers.....gonna finish a few things....bbiaf [03:44] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:44] stupid modperl docs dont tell me what the module name is to put in httpd [03:44] as an example [03:44] so I end up guessing [03:45] slackytude: i'd like to work away from home for abit [03:45] meet some new people, interesting people... people with skillzzz [03:45] fatalnix: locate mod_perl.so ? [03:45] :D [03:45] yeah [03:45] yeah [03:45] I just thought of that [03:45] is that all you have to say?! HUH?! WHAT??! [03:45] :p [03:45] dont you just uncomment out a line in httpd.conf? : [03:46] acidchild: i dont think he is clicking hard enough! [03:46] it doesnt come with slackware [03:46] acidchild, you are insane [03:46] mod_perl is nasty to setup [03:46] tewmten: http://7a69.co.uk/~ash/frontroom.jpg [03:46] pick a sofa [03:46] ^_^ [03:46] now i wana see my sofa in amsterdam, or i'll kill uuu [03:47] i dont have a sofa [03:47] :D [03:47] yet [03:47] i put you in a booth in red light district [03:47] they have beds.. sort of [03:47] awe baby ty [03:47] http://artiomix.googlepages.com/ubuntu.png [03:47] :D [03:47] Someone had to do it XD [03:48] ha! [03:48] rofl [03:48] josefig (n=josefig@200.92.18.39) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:48] tewmten: toronto is just one step away from booths like that [03:49] already loads of spas for rub and tugs and in/out calls advertised everywhere [03:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:50] damnit [03:50] one of our devs broke our development server [03:51] cool, now take his job [03:51] xD [03:51] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-153-36-67.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A5654.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) joined ##slackware. [03:51] hi ho [03:51] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] uuh [03:52] no wait [03:52] missyjane's here? [03:52] Nick change: omnipotentduo -> omni_sleep [03:52] first he was trying to restart apache as his own user [03:52] so? [03:52] and then he was opening the php files in his browser, not executing them [03:52] and it gave alot of problems [03:52] because that is not the way to work [03:52] wurd up, slap him [03:53] phew.. i thought i had to work there for a second [03:53] yes i did [03:53] i always keep my LART close [03:53] ;D [03:53] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [03:53] ffs im busy playing mafia wars and he is bugging me with his own stupidity [03:53] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] charge him by the second [03:54] like maybe 3.2E [03:55] How to convert txt file, (which has many html links in it) in a html file ready to be open in links? [03:55] mv foo.txt foo.html [03:55] =) [03:56] i can't believe you just asked that ;( [03:56] adeodatu1: links file.txt [03:56] should work [03:56] no need to convert [03:56] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.232) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] mmmm... no file extention kinda matters. [03:56] its a file [03:56] thats enough [03:56] a file is a file [03:56] Channel flood from tewmten -- kicking [03:56] everything is a file [03:56] tewmten kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:56] yeah i know, but he wants the links to show up clean i'm guessing. [03:57] so he needs to read it as html [03:57] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [03:57] acidchild: yes [03:57] (07:54) < acidchild> yeah i know, but he wants the links to show up clean i'm guessing. [03:57] (07:54) < acidchild> so he needs to read it as html [03:58] what means X and R ind the Netwatch program? [03:58] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-132-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [03:58] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:58] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FED24.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:58] install linkification extension for firefox, open file:///path/to/file.txt, enjoy clickable links [03:59] (no, it doesn't meet the original requirements) [03:59] jekkt: R[eceived] T[ransmitted] [03:59] =p [03:59] I want that books.txt file to be read as html. [03:59] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:59] durh [03:59] and its packets of data, not size of packets. [03:59] adeodatu1: is it, in fact, an HTML file? [04:00] put the file on pastebin so we can see..? [04:00] Urchlay: no, it isn't [04:00] it is a txt file!! [04:00] no but you dont need full tags to display it as a html file. [04:01] adeodatul: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/txt2html [04:01] adeodatu1: then, what do you want to happen? are you trying to convert all the http://whatever references into clickable links? [04:01] just change extention and open it!! [04:01] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Urchlay: yes [04:01] ummm i got the vibe that the links where in html in the file.. [04:01] rest was txt..? [04:02] that netwatch program sucks. [04:02] adeodatu1: OK, well, that isn't really covered by "converting to HTML"... you need something like firefox's linkification extension (only I guess not that, because you asked about links, implying no X?) [04:02] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [04:02] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] I don't have X [04:03] perl -pe 's/(http:\S+)/\1<\/a>/g' file.txt > file.html [04:03] oooh now the story comes out [04:03] if you have the http part in there, could you not use vi's search and replace with an appropriate regex and wham it up? [04:03] adeodatul: http://txt2html.sourceforge.net/ [04:03] the result might be close enough to real HTML for links to handle (it won't be valid HTML though) [04:03] Or what Urchlay said, because it was cooler. [04:04] heh, what I said, is untested code, I didn't actually try it before typing it into IRC [04:04] if it doesn't work, ehhh, then it doesn't work [04:04] Urchlay: its very cute. [04:04] Still cooler than me not bothering my brain to ask for something like a regex. [04:04] thanks guys!! [04:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:05] My brain is busy thinking about sex and its best to be left alone. Like trying to take food from a feral dog, you know? [04:05] acidchild: naw, it's hideous and unmaintainable, but it ought to work and it's easy enough for him to copy/paste [04:05] hahaha yeah [04:05] (am assuming he doesn't have any interest in learning how it works or anything) [04:05] perl frightens me. [04:06] it shouldn't [04:06] Actually, I'm scared of learning anything new. [04:06] $href ~= s/(http:\S+)/\1<\/a>/g; [04:06] oh [04:06] it does look about right though, its kinda narsty though [04:06] I already have so much in my head I lose something now with every new thing. [04:06] I read half the Encyclopedia Britannica in study hall one year. [04:07] acidchild: a real script, I'd use /x and split the regex into multiple lines, with comments embedded, so I wouldn't have to decipher all that linenoise next time I look at it [04:07] I still recall that the common house fly carries about 6,600,000 germs on, and in, its body. [04:07] Urchlay: and even m/ [04:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:07] what you need m// for there? [04:07] anyways we're both in agreeance that it could be alot better [04:07] oh yeah [04:08] but it couldn't be much shorter :) [04:08] many ways to skin a pink goat. [04:09] my favorite way is to redefine "cat" to mean "pink goat", then apply any of the many ways to skin a cat [04:09] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [04:09] pink goat ftw [04:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:11] Honestly, I want to know everything but I've come to the unavoidable conclusion that I have only finite long term storage. The more I learn, the more I forget. I create worlds, you see, fictional worlds. Wrote an alternate 4.5 billion year timeline for Earth, created hundreds of characters... 25 years of work and I'm learning Drupal to get all of it out there, to do something with it. To get it organized and out of my head. It's like a cast of [04:11] thousands screaming for attention and I have only so much time in a day. [04:12] ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample? [04:12] WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question? [04:12] dude, you wrote an alternate earth history? I want to read it someday [04:13] http://wwandi.com/content/timeline-earth [04:13] Every day is some day. [04:13] talkin' 'bout alternative histories...the ill bethisad websites are pretty interesting reading [04:13] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [04:14] there is a sci-fi series like that [04:14] It's basically a quick one. Devil's in the details, of course, but I needed to get down where from and where to... a metaplot for Earth. [04:14] starts with humanity from early days to extinction [04:14] Sweet. [04:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430602.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:14] This is more pre humanity through evolution and eventual exodus [04:15] I have a couple ideas for alt. history stories, but none of them include such "trivial" details as characters or a plot [04:15] thats great [04:15] :( [04:15] I guess [04:15] Buddy of mine is into these alternate history books... like "What if the South won the war" and stuff [04:15] yeah, I've read entirely too many of those (some are really good though) [04:15] That's the site, btw, I am constantly breaking. [04:15] Harry Turtledove,MrHales? [04:15] bet your friend has a shelf full of Harry Turtledove books [04:16] Like bones, I can only assume it gets stronger every time I break it. [04:16] Yeah! [04:16] That's the guy. [04:16] MrHales: if bones get stronger from being broken, how come that guy from metallica broke the same arm like 3 times? [04:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [04:17] zaproh (n=zaproh@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [04:17] oh, wait, he's the guy from metallica, he probably just did the same really stupid thing 3 times [04:17] morning [04:18] Mornin', Nooper [04:19] MrHales: hey, you're a pretty good fiction writer (if my opinion's worth anything: I read a ton of the stuff but never wrote it professionally) [04:20] Mornin all [04:20] hehehe [04:20] Thank you, Urchlay [04:20] Mornin', Zordrak [04:21] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [04:24] rarnz (n=rarnz@e179155174.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [04:25] Does anyone know wwho runs slackware.it? [04:26] some italian [04:26] no idea. [04:26] :D [04:26] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-226-101.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] lol I have the funniest issue now [04:26] linXea (n=e@81.233.227.253) joined ##slackware. [04:26] Zordrak: did i make a funny? [04:26] I got it installed and going to http://localhost/perl/test.pl sends me to google [04:26] uh? [04:26] and the only thing in it is a print [04:27] now its not.. weird! [04:28] Zordrak: that its run by some italian [04:28] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:30] spook: y'think? [04:32] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A5654.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:33] Zordrak: hence, i made a funny [04:34] First semester in clown school? [04:34] Wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:34] i still have trouble using wicd - some networks show as hidden and cannot connect [04:34] siimo: #wicd [04:35] zaproh (n=zaproh@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [04:35] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:38] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-23.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:38] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FCF38.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:40] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [04:40] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [04:40] darkwurm_ (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:40] linXea (n=e@81.233.227.253) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [04:41] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:41] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) joined ##slackware. [04:45] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:46] how do I get adobe reader to work in firefox? I created a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Browser/inetellinux/nppdf.so but firefox still doesnt see it [04:47] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [04:47] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [04:47] adobe lol. [04:47] there are muuuch better built-in readers [04:48] like what? [04:48] xpdf, kpdf, for open ones, and foxit has a linux ver for closed, for example [04:50] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:51] nepenthe (n=ville@MYCCXXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Quit" [04:51] though i guess not plugins, in the strict sense [04:51] epdfview is also decent [04:52] foxit probally has an in-browser plugin [04:52] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A5654.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [04:53] siimo, is /opt/Adobe/whatever/the/hell in your PATH? [04:53] Quiznos: you pinged? I just got back to the noc from lax [04:54] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:54] mancha, how do i check [04:54] echo $PATH [04:55] no [04:56] add it to your path ... and check if that works [04:57] export PATH=$PATH:/opt/Adobe/Reader9/Browser/inetellinux or summit [04:59] lolwut: if you installed adobe-reader with the slackbuild, it should be available in firefox/plugins [04:59] chopp, i did but for somereason it isnt [04:59] mancha, still not working.. [05:00] can you pastebin the /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Browser structure? [05:02] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:02] lol, what slackware are you on? [05:03] http://pastebin.ca/1558146 [05:03] 13 x64 [05:03] see if you have another (older) copy of nppdf.so laying around. Flash player refused to function on new fox until I realized I had an older version still and it was trying to use that one (which was apparently not compatible) [05:03] does it work on 64 bit? [05:03] adobe? [05:03] I had to get the multilibs [05:03] but yeah [05:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Do I need to revert to the 32 bit firefox in order to use the adobe plugin? [05:04] daobe has a 64 bit plugin now doesnt it? [05:04] I understand that ndiswrapper allows one to use the 32 bit plugin [05:05] lol, add /opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin to your PATH [05:05] there is a 64-bit plugin. [05:05] From some reading I was doing while trying to figure out my Flash issue, it looked like several knowledgable (or seemingly so) individuals recommended using the 32 bit version because the 64 was... not good, apparently... of course, this is specifically the flash player. [05:06] Same company though. [05:06] there's even an automated slackbuild that will get it for you (in /extra) [05:06] lol, i'm just guiessing here, the boint is you want your executable to be found, and /opt is nonstandard, that is why i am giving you these path things. but i am only guessing [05:08] mancha, Yeah but it wont find it.. [05:08] slava_dp, its in /extra? [05:08] well, "which acroread" will let you know [05:08] come on. http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.0/extra/flashplayer-plugin/ [05:09] no, i dont need flash... [05:09] nullify (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:09] mancha, it comes up /usr/bin/... but that is in my path [05:09] oh, so you talking about adobe reader. who needs adobe reader for linux anyway? [05:09] nullify_ (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:09] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:10] epdfview for xfce, okular for kde. [05:10] I believe he wants integration with the browser, though. [05:10] yeah, but why? [05:10] yeah, I have a standalone viewer but I dont want to ahve to save pdfs to view them [05:10] nullify_ (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:11] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.75.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:11] and your solution is to use a proprietary code blob to do it, right? [05:11] I don't. I just open them. Instead of Save As... I say Open With. [05:12] *sigh* [05:12] slack_ (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-sfcxsdjzhutffgnm) joined ##slackware. [05:13] but,if you open them..they're saved in /tmp...if you integrate them,they'll be saved in cache...so,one way or the other..you're going to download the files [05:13] http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Opening+PDF+files+within+Firefox > lolwut [05:13] Mr_M4g1c (n=user@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Client Quit [05:13] Good point, MLanden. [05:13] you can indicate any viewer (epdfview for example) in the preferences. [05:13] edman007__ (n=edman007@ool-18bd3661.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] maybe the reader doesn't work on 64 bit arch [05:14] greets [05:14] lolwut, just say "use xdg-open" and it will use whatever viewer you have installed [05:14] Nick change: slack_ -> The-Croupier [05:14] greetings [05:15] Action: MrHales waves. [05:15] hows things? looks quiter today. ;) [05:16] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [05:16] Speaking of quiet... g'night all. [05:16] Shoulda said that hours ago. [05:16] night MrHales [05:16] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Leaving" [05:17] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-53-95.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:17] yop all :) [05:17] nullify (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:17] -1 ;) [05:17] does someone got some problem with k3b ? :) [05:17] and slack 13.0 of course :) [05:17] uh, is pentium-M 686? it appears to be. but how to specify this as the minimum ... [05:18] Ephedrax: k3b is broken [05:18] OMG [05:18] Ephedrax: very broken [05:18] slava_dp, I guess i was just being stubborn about the fact that I couldn't get the stupid plugin to work. [05:18] believe so,TwinReverb [05:18] Ephedrax: i had, it refused to 'complete' dvdr images [05:18] this is my conslusion too Zordrak [05:19] same here. And another problem too: k3b dont find the device. I have to k3bsetup at each start. [05:19] Ephedrax, use 1.0.5, it [05:19] capone: Zordrak same, 99% for the iso. [05:19] thx a lot slava_dp :) [05:19] it's somewhere in extra [05:19] this is a slackware or k3b problem ? [05:19] for information :) [05:19] k3b [05:19] k3b [05:19] k. [05:20] report upstream? [05:20] spook, mr. Trueg already knows. [05:21] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.139) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:21] oh cool. [05:21] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] spook, i wrote him asking to fix k3b for qt4 ages ago. [05:21] does someone tried the x86_64 version ? [05:21] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:21] is eth0:eth1 a sub interface or a vlan interface? [05:22] I think x802 first of all: say hello :) [05:22] Twin, you mean gcc options? [05:22] x802: you mean eth0:1 ? [05:23] spook, thx, i found [05:23] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.87) joined ##slackware. [05:24] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [05:24] FWIW first should be eth0:0 [05:24] then eth0:1 [05:24] thats the virtual interface, right? [05:24] i wish there was a "686" option in the kernel, to be honest [05:24] i'm considering a kernel config for laptops (circa 2004) but there's no "686" so i may go "586/686" [05:24] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [05:25] any :x if is a virtual [05:25] eth0, eth0:0, eth0:1 = Three interfaces [05:25] oh, right, alias interface [05:25] ... but I didn't say it hours ago and now I might as well just stay up. [05:25] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/extra/kde3-compat/k3b3-1.0.5-i486-opt1.txz <--- for ppl who need it. [05:26] kernel compiling,TwinReverb? [05:26] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:26] Ephedrax: cdrecord/growisofs ftw [05:26] eth0:1.5 on vlan 5 [05:26] ya ya I know that, but for my f*****g sister, its better :) [05:26] iirc pentium-M is an option for processor family in the colonel config [05:26] fair enough [05:26] Styllles (n=Jully@201.10.74.104) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:27] =) [05:27] mancha: straterra's not here.. give it up :) [05:27] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [05:27] oh thats right, i ignored twinreverb, was wondering wtf was going on. [05:27] Zord, hah [05:28] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [05:28] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Is it just me.. or has it FINALLY quietened down since the release rush? [05:31] A lot of new Slackers since 13 or something? [05:31] don't think that. [05:32] do you think here is a "very important upgrade" in the 13.0 which could attract new ppl ? I don't think so. maybe I'm wrong :) [05:32] no just people who fail at linux [05:32] bwarf slava_dp [05:32] oops spook [05:32] zeether101 (n=z@96.251.192.31) left irc: "Leaving." [05:32] Ephedrax: you dont seem to make a lot of sense. [05:33] hum ? [05:33] No.. just a lot of douchebags who see a release notice.. cant handle not having the shiniest latest thing.. try Slack, realise they are too moronic to handle it, come in here for a bitch about why 4 isnt the default runlevel or something and then run off naked throgh the park furiously masturbating while waving the latest release of Ubuntu under the noses of women and children [05:33] vivid enough for you? [05:33] perfect Zordrak [05:33] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:33] No. [05:33] better than I said :) [05:34] lo:2 Link encap:Local Loopback [05:34] inet addr:172.16.31.100 Mask:255.255.0.0 [05:34] how come i can ping 172.16.31.44 and got a reply? [05:34] uhhhhhh [05:34] =D [05:34] i can even ping 31.33 or 31.22 or anything [05:34] running naked in the park is ok but carrying an ubuntu dvd makes it indecent exposure? [05:35] x802: what is the problem.. it works, right? [05:35] x802: is there a reason you're playing with the loopback interface? [05:35] ^ what he said [05:35] Zordrak, there are no machines on 31.33 or on 31.22 or 31.x . i should not get a reply [05:35] it's loopback lol [05:35] its the loopback interface. [05:36] spook, yes, cause i don't have an ethernet loop back cable [05:36] uh.... [05:36] wtf [05:36] x802: go read a book on networking. [05:36] MLanden, i'm considering a distribution based on slackware [05:36] TwinReverb, is it slackware? :-) [05:36] pinging loopback is like knocking on your own front door from the inside and saying "Is anybody home?" [05:37] spook, i have to physically plug in rj45 into eth0 to get green light. and i am in virtual enviro. or i can bring a router with my to power on my eth0's lights [05:37] x802: uh... [05:37] x802: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Linux+Networking+HOWTO [05:37] Action: Zordrak has a printed and bound copy from many years ago on the shelf [05:37] cool,TwinReverb...you mean like DSL or PuppyLinux for the Pentium-M's using Slackware as a base? [05:38] Zordrak, that's a cool link. ;) but no work [05:38] no work? [05:38] no, a very minor alteration [05:38] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [05:38] pentium-M being the lowest CPU that it will probably run on (but oh well, 586/686) [05:38] ahh..OK,TwinReverb [05:38] x802: you'll get to a reply to pretty much everything on the loopback interface [05:39] excluding things laptop users don't normally need, and including things the usually want [05:39] (openoffice, skype, wacom) [05:39] That was simply awesome, Zordrak. I have a new favorite website now. [05:40] I'm very fickle, though. [05:40] It won't last. [05:40] Zordrak: fr ? [05:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:41] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Ephedrax: huh? [05:41] you're not french ? [05:41] good morning good people :-) [05:41] Non. [05:41] Fine, don't say anything to me and the rest of the bad apples, macavity! [05:41] Mornin', macavity [05:41] ^^ [05:41] i;m looking for an rss app that floats in a window and scrolls headlines, ticker-style. any recommendations? [05:42] MrHales: :P [05:42] Merçi, mon Dieu. [05:42] TwinReverb: the laptop with the Pentium-M,is it a tablet? [05:42] That's better. [05:42] Zordrak: be careful ^^ [05:42] MrHales: give me a break.. i havent even had my coffee yet.. the water is not boiling fast enough [05:42] MLanden, i might include support for that, sure, if i can build it successfully [05:42] I know the feeling... I think mine is ready now, though [05:42] i;m looking for an rss app <-- i swear, i totally rea that as "Im looking for an ass rape" first time around [05:43] freud would have a field day with you [05:43] sounds great,TwinReverb...good luck [05:43] Ephedrax: Don't get me wrong.. I love you cheese eating surrender-monkeys.. i just wouldnt want to bo one :D [05:43] yay 8-S [05:43] héhé [05:43] TwinReverb: calling "minor alterations to Slackware" a new distro is a bit far-fetched don't you think? Perhaps it is better to write a set of instructions and/or scripts? [05:43] *be [05:43] i fixed it! [05:44] alienBOB, i was going to call it slacktop (but i'm still in the imagination phase) [05:44] Ahhh, the Crystal Skull of Mental Acuity. At last! [05:44] alienBOB: a lot of what he does really puzzles me [05:44] i don't know if anything will come of it [05:44] alienBOB: Close to a nerve eh? (referring to another particularly political re-imagining of slack.. :p) [05:44] TwinReverb: Slap [05:44] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:44] MrHales, i like it [05:45] TwinReverb: please refrain from the use of "slack" or any permutations if you want to remain on friendly terms ;-) [05:45] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:45] alienBOB, what do you mean? [05:45] call it smackware [05:45] TwinReverb: how about RedGreenTop? [05:45] Action: Zordrak runs [05:45] fast [05:45] No, Smackware is for Crackberries [05:46] call it twinreverb's distrobution [05:46] or like, redblack32 [05:46] TwinReverb: zenwalk was originally called "minislack" but that was not looked upon favorably by Pat. So they changed the name [05:46] TwinReverb: pm for a sec.. can asplain further [05:46] alienBOB, oh ok my apologies [05:47] "Slap" is very good. Slackware laptop, of course, without actually invoking the name. [05:47] As long as you understand the "political" issues of mimicking Slackware and showing that in the name of your product [05:47] edman007__ (n=edman007@ool-18bd3661.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Connection timed out [05:48] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:49] Action: Zordrak will brb [05:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:49] Action: Zordrak only tells mancha where he is going ;) [05:50] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] Although, alienBOB does have a very good point. As I understand it (not actually possessing any experience in this area) one may create tag files that essentially automate the installation if one wanted to, for instance, drop an identical distro on every computer in an office. Including the extra software (tablet, et al) in the /extra directory might be a good way of doing that.... or, better, creating what amounts to a supplemental disk that inclu [05:50] des the tagfiles and extra software packages. [05:51] Just a thought. [05:51] it would be nice if Slackware had something similair to kickstart [05:51] :) [05:51] Kickstart? [05:52] amiga's kickstart,tewmten? [05:52] yeah its a tool in RHEL/CentOS/Fedora to make automatic installations or configurations of the system [05:52] like you have a file which describes which packages, in which order, should be installed [05:52] tewmten: that has been on the TODO for a few releases now. Perhaps this time, MoZes and I will make progress [05:52] how to configure certain parts of the system [05:52] etc etc [05:52] That's what I was talking about, I think. [05:52] alienBOB: coolio [05:52] MrHales: i think so too [05:52] Bits & pieces have already been added to the installer over time [05:53] maybe "distribution" would be a bad word anyways. what do you call it when you spin your own dvd that removes things a typical laptop user won't need, including things typical laptop users need that slackware linux does not currently include, and reconfiguring the kernel to be more appropriate for laptop users? [05:53] alienBOB, ^ [05:53] alien, is there a compilation roadmap [05:53] and maybe also just some simple tools to easily make a slipstreamed installer CD [05:53] im just thinking aloud at the moment [05:53] TwinReverb: "user customization" is what that is called. Creating a new distro is a completely other kind of endeavour [05:54] alienBOB: yeah i read that article on Linux Mag about the new changes in Slackware 13 [05:54] mancha: none of that is public [05:54] alienBOB, do i need permission to do this? [05:54] maybe even just a way to have sshd enabled automatically in the installer, doing completely remote installs [05:54] TwinReverb: permission for what? [05:54] TwinReverb: the open source license gives you permission to do this [05:54] so say you want to re-comp it all to higher cpu specs, you are sort of on your own [05:54] spook: you can already automatically start the sshd in the installer... [05:54] mancha: indeed, you will be on your own [05:54] I'd like to see a tiny distro that does one thing: shred. You boot it up, it says hello, explains what its about to do, get a yes/no and it goes to work doing a 7 pass write on the hdd [05:55] alienBOB: hmmm, i should probally investigate this :P [05:55] That is the fun of Slackware. You can do it [05:55] Anybody ever heard of such a thing? [05:55] alienBOB, ok [05:55] MrHales: theres already an awesome image that does that [05:55] MrHales: i saw several floopy distributions doing that a few years back [05:55] hmm... [05:55] spook: you're talking about Windows Vista, aren't you? :D [05:55] MrHales: dbad i think [05:55] oh [05:55] in your x64 case you were on your own or you were brought into the loop on that stuff [05:55] disk burn and destroy [05:55] MrHales: how about slax website that you create your own stuff... can it do what you are looking for? [05:56] mancha: I am part of the Slackware core team. Of course I am in on everything [05:56] dban [05:56] I had a crash course "build Slackware from scratch" [05:56] www.dban.org [05:56] alienBOB: really?! [05:56] And there was astill a lot to figure out for the 64bit port [05:57] alienBOB: is there a link, rfc...that kind of thing? [05:57] yeah,spook...UBCD has it on their freedos distro [05:57] i am sure, it seems like a big project, how long did it take in man-hours, you think? [05:57] MLanden: dban is self contained, automatically wipes all disks on boot [05:57] Many of the 32bit packages have not been recompiled for years. Many build scripts simply did not work, so that was why I decided quite early in the process to re-write them all to new standards [05:58] alienBOB, where is this crash course available? [05:58] The-Croupier: RFC for what? [05:58] alienBOB: seriously, good job. [05:58] It is not available. Pat told me how to build Slackware [05:58] to read about slackware courses? are there anywhere? [05:58] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:58] does anyone need a soule per chance? [05:59] i happen to WTT one for the above mentioned course [05:59] soule? [05:59] minus the e probably [05:59] what could be a scenario for using dban? "emergency data destruction." ?! the contrary looks someone would need, [05:59] have you benchmarked different things on 64 hardware, slack13 vs lack13-64? [05:59] macavity: i'll give you a slackware course [05:59] spook: i want THAT slackware course [05:59] spook: SLF :P [05:59] The-Croupier: disposing of corporate assets? [06:00] macavity: oh. [06:00] eek [06:00] SFS [06:00] spook: oh [06:00] The-Croupier: selling stuff on ebay even [06:00] spook: and how could selling things on ebay, raise the need to emergency data destruction. [06:00] and while we are at it: i think slackware needs cross compiler packges [06:01] yeah fraud. [06:01] really [06:01] spook: thank you, that's almost perfect (dban) [06:01] The-Croupier: its not emergency, but its really quick and easy [06:01] boot and nuke is really a half-measure [06:01] well sometimes not so quick [06:02] for the following: for people who don't have high precision clean room equiment, one pass is enough while for those with the high tech equipment, they'll read it even if you pass it 1 million times [06:02] true...if the hard drive's on its last leg...it's on its last leg [06:02] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:02] spook: im sorry im being a little bit slow, could you give me a real life example of why to delete/destroy a full hdd or partition? [06:03] user51 (n=hr@117.200.60.191) joined ##slackware. [06:03] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:03] The-Croupier: say you are selling off/throwing out hard drives that have sensitive information on them. you need to easily wipe the disk on say hundreds of disks/machines. [06:04] spook: ;) got it.... [06:04] having a disk you can just put in the macchine and have it automatically wipe the drives without any prompts would make your job very easy [06:05] The-Croupier: I'll give you one. I have, in the past, been given several old computers from several sources. Some of these drives may contain sensitive personal and/or business data. The ability to swap them into a handy tower and securely wipe them for reuse is very attractive to me. I consider myself personally responsible for the data on these drives as they were entrusted to my care. Of course, a power drill is almost as effective and far l [06:05] ess time-consuming. I'm still considering it as an option. [06:05] evanton (n=lol@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [06:06] how do I extract the html from a chm file? until 13.0 I was building chmlib and it included a binary CLI tool for that, but the chmlib package in 13.0 doesn't have it [06:06] where Default xfce Gtk icons are located ??? [06:07] extract_chmLib [06:07] that was it [06:07] I've grepped the manifest file of 13.0 and didn't find that [06:07] why would it be gone? [06:08] I have no idea [06:08] user51: /usr/share/icons/ ... check tango for a start [06:08] okay [06:09] WANGO TANGO ! [06:09] evanton: chmlib apparently has some problems atm [06:10] spook: any alternative ways to achive the goal of extracting the html from chm then? [06:10] user51 (n=hr@117.200.60.191) left irc: "Leaving" [06:10] evanton: oh its only with some stuff from slackbuilds breaking because chmlib was compiled without some example code [06:10] not really relevant [06:11] kejen (n=brian@67.202.107.232) left irc: "leaving" [06:11] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.160) joined ##slackware. [06:12] evanton, rebuild it and add in a new configure flag [06:13] use --enable-examples [06:13] any reasons why Pat didn't do that? [06:13] DBAN works good for wiping drives too [06:13] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [06:13] the ChangeLog mentions only the addition of chmlib [06:13] hey, i can't divine pat's intentions :> but i can offer advice [06:14] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.160) left irc: Client Quit [06:14] mancha: I understand :) I always assume there is a reason, because Pat knows the guts much better than me [06:15] Styllles (n=Jully@201.89.64.7) joined ##slackware. [06:16] cya [06:16] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [06:16] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.11) joined ##slackware. [06:19] mancha: perhaps chmlib was added as dependence (for kde?) and wasn't investigated deep enough [06:19] I remember having to install chmlib for a program that read windows help files [06:19] i wouldn't work too hard at figuring out config flag configs, just build it with my flag [06:20] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:20] my grandma died [06:20] how can I reinstall the lilo-bootloader from the slackware-livecd? I can't find the lilo-binary. I want to use an exisiting lilo.conf on a mounted harddrive [06:20] there was a discussion of it on slackbuilds-users list. [06:20] evan, i doubt there's a real reason other than didn't see the need or didn't realize it was a good option [06:21] it will probally be fixed with a patch soonish [06:21] sorry to hear,slackytude...condolescences to your family [06:22] apoca: whereis lilo [06:22] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:22] slackytude: condollescences [06:22] it's in /sbin [06:22] alienBOB, pm-age? [06:22] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@91.120.149.70) joined ##slackware. [06:23] it really sucked when my grandma died. it was long a slow, cancer is a bitch [06:23] alison, what reader did you use? [06:23] i recall xchm or something wasn't too bad [06:23] that must be hard, my grandparents passed away when I was a kid and wasn't realizing matters of life and death [06:24] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:24] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:24] Nick change: adupuis_ -> Arno[Slack]`Work [06:27] my mum's mum died when my mum was 20. my mum's dad died when i was about 12. my dad's mum when i was about 16. i really liked her. my dad's dad is pretty much dead, he just sits in his retirement home watching tv all day. [06:28] gotta call my father soon. we dont really get along that well [06:29] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: [06:29] his mother,slackytude? [06:30] yeah [06:31] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:32] slackytude: yeah - that's a tough one [06:32] slackytude: condolences [06:32] mancha: something like that. been a while, though [06:33] thx guys [06:34] spook: tell me about it - my grandfather pretty much just sat in his chair and did nothing the last 2 years of his life [06:35] TwinReverb: sure. I am not always responding fast, though (RL) [06:35] alienBOB, k [06:35] kernel; error; arc/x86/...relocs.c: 72, 73; STT_{COMMON,TLS} undefined [06:35] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [06:36] however, is #includ'd, defined in elf.h too [06:36] wth? [06:37] alisonken1noc: really quite sad if you think about it [06:37] he used to be really into woodworking [06:37] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:39] spook: same with my grandfather as well [06:40] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] evanton: on the install-dvd? I didn't find it in /sbin and there is no 'whereis' [06:40] Quiznos: What are you compiling? [06:40] apoca how are you booting into linux? [06:41] kernel [06:41] 29.6 [06:41] mancha: I'm using the slackware installdvd [06:41] Quiznos: good luck [06:41] why? [06:41] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] apoca, i think i've understood that you want to have a slackware installed already on some part re-write the mbr using the lilo.conf there [06:41] USB controller just died on me o.o [06:42] so you can boot into any linux (any live cd'll do) including the slack media [06:42] mount your slackware partition, chroot to it, and run /sbin/lilo from inside your chroot [06:42] do I have to mount /dev into the chroot? [06:42] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:42] you'll need to mount proc [06:43] /proc and /dev, right? [06:44] dev should be fine [06:45] proc is the important one [06:45] ok, I'll try that [06:45] just mount /proc and fstab will do the rest [06:45] have never needed to mount /proc & /dev just to run lilo [06:46] boot, mount, chroot, lilo, reboot [06:46] dont chroot when you can be root. [06:46] ? [06:46] brb, trying it on the server [06:46] Zordrak: oh, probally i just need to mount /proc because i'm using lvm [06:46] lilo itself has a chroot option [06:46] spook: *nod* [06:49] stoopit kernel coders [06:49] "non const array index" [06:50] which is a lie [06:52] neo01 (n=Administ@117.195.136.12) joined ##slackware. [06:52] hi guys [06:52] anyone around [06:52] y0 neo01 [06:53] hi MLanden [06:53] actually i have a question [06:54] u there buddy? [06:54] ok, no luck with chroot, cause it can't stat the /dev/md1 device [06:54] neo01 write the q [06:54] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-53-95.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:54] :) [06:54] yeah..no need to ask to ask [06:54] actually i installed windows after my slackware installation [06:55] thanx MLaden [06:55] and it wiped your MBR? :) [06:55] MLanden [06:55] no [06:55] apoca, what device is your slackware partition? [06:55] i have two hard drives [06:55] hda and hdb [06:55] windows is on hda [06:55] slackware is on hdb [06:56] and i reinstalled windows on hda [06:56] nepenthe (n=ville@85.77.224.174) joined ##slackware. [06:56] and as usual lilo wont show up [06:56] chroot does not work [06:56] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.215.29.226) left irc: Client Quit [06:56] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-53-95.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:56] lilo won't show up? [06:56] chroot don't work? [06:56] mancha: it's on a softraid-device /dev/md1 [06:56] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] you can mount it? [06:57] mancha: yep, mount works [06:57] ? [06:57] can we boot into hdb using the slackware dvd [06:58] neo01: yes [06:58] by using some options at the boot: [06:58] Zordrak... how? [06:58] apoca, mount -o dev /dev/md1 /mnt/my_slack ? [06:58] hugesmp.s vga=795 root=/dev/sdb1 [06:58] rm -rf 29.6 [06:58] (vga 795 is for 1280x1024) [06:58] chroot /mnt/my_slack lilo ? [06:58] mancha: no, I just did mount /dev/md1 /mnt/my_slack [06:58] Zorkrak... done that [06:59] sorry [06:59] Zordrak... done that [06:59] ok.. so run lilo [06:59] try what i suggested [06:59] ok [06:59] apoca: you have to scan and reassemble the RAID array first I believe [06:59] mingdao: I did that, mounting the raid-device is fine ;) [06:59] apoca: mdadm -Es > /etc/mdadm.conf [06:59] mdadm -As [06:59] then your /dev/md* will show up [07:00] Zordrak... it doesn't work [07:00] okay, sorry I missed it ... buffer full of OT stuff [07:00] neo01: why? [07:00] Zordrak... it does not boot into my slackware desktop [07:00] .. what does it do? [07:01] Action: spook didnt need to do anything to mdadm.conf when installing slack13 [07:01] Zordrak... it just goes into slackware setup [07:01] oh hrmm, if it is software raid i think mingdao is right [07:01] mancha: still problem with stat("/dev/md1") [07:01] so just chroot from there [07:01] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [07:01] apoca: read the README_RAID.TXT fiel on the DVD ... explains it well [07:01] Zordrak... i have done that [07:01] bug in xargs; argc too big [07:01] well, but I already can mount /dev/md1, so the device is there, but I can't chroot to my installed system to reinstall lilo [07:01] mkdir -p /foo [07:01] you probably have to mount it, cp over the /etc/raidtab [07:01] rah. got another problems with k3b =/ [07:01] mount /dev/sdb1 !$ [07:02] chroot !$ [07:02] lilo [07:02] Zordrak...not hdb? [07:02] sry yes [07:02] hdb1 [07:02] I'll have a look at README_RAID.TXT [07:02] brb [07:02] Zordrak... done that [07:02] neo01: not really related to your problem, but I'd suggest you to swap drives in the future, make the windows one hdb and boot windows from it with lilo [07:03] andh the output of running lilo is? [07:03] evanton: its pretty irrelevant [07:03] after copying over the raidtab, umount, raidstart, then moun the raid device /dev/md1 or whatever [07:03] apoca: mount /dev/md* /mnt/boot/; chroot /mnt; vim /etc/lilo.conf; lilo; reboot [07:03] Zordrak... some cannot find /dev/sda problem [07:03] evanton: the general secret to this shiz is to install windows first [07:03] neo01: sda not hda? [07:04] ming but you need to raidstart first, yes? [07:04] Zordrak: that's to avoid the situation to rewrite the mbr, but he has two drives [07:04] evanton... i would do that [07:04] it's been forever since i played with sw raid [07:04] Zordrak... yes sda [07:04] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-sfcxsdjzhutffgnm) left irc: "Page closed" [07:04] evanton: the problem is.. windows doesnt like being installed as non-primary [07:04] neo01: then you need to fix your lilo conf [07:05] neo01: cos its pointing to the wrong device [07:05] zmyrgel (n=zmyrgel@80.221.34.59) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Zordrak evanton ... actually rescued it once, but i dont remember how [07:05] hi, I failed at making working initrd for my pc and got kernel panic [07:06] Zordrak: i was installing windows to a hdd hooked up as primary master, then just swapped it to slave and had the linux hdd as master, booting windows with lilo [07:06] what modules should I include to the initrd besides ext4 ( root on one ) [07:06] Zordrak evanton ... i remember i booted into slackware (gui) using live cd [07:06] it can't find my root partition apparently so I guess some sata driver or something... [07:07] evanton ... is there another way you suggest so that i need not open my cabinet [07:07] i searched and searched but got nothing [07:07] neo01: can you pastebin your lilo.conf? [07:07] zmyrgel: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=69 [07:08] evanton ... just a min [07:08] neo01: then you need to fix your lilo conf [07:08] neo01: cos its pointing to the wrong device [07:08] Zordrak ... nope, that lilo.conf is fine [07:08] Zordrak: I'd prefer to stick with slackware kernels [07:08] i will just paste it [07:08] mingdao: your line doesn't work, because lilo can't stat the /dev/md1 device [07:09] do you guys think that hyperthreading will help or hurt a laptop's battery life? assuming the laptop CPU supports that (which pentium-M and core 2 duo do not) [07:09] where the modules get installed so I can browse them? [07:09] zmyrgel: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=8 [07:09] zmyrgel: /lib/modules/$(uname -r) [07:10] Zordrak: thanks [07:10] zmyrgel: oh and..http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=51 [07:11] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] mdadm -sE > /etc/mdadm.conf [07:12] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] evanton ... how to pastebin? [07:12] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:12] neo01: http://pastebin.ca [07:12] mancha: on the livecd? [07:12] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:12] mdadm -sA; mount /dev/md1 /mnt/my_slack [07:12] neo01: use a pastebin site, to paste the output of a console command to a pastebin, you can use the wgetpaste tool [07:12] mdadm -sE > /etc/mdadm.conf; mdadm -sA; mount /dev/md1 /mnt/my_slack [07:12] try that [07:12] ok [07:12] ok [07:13] Quiznews' drivers in the .oz area (non-oz) are learning to drive on OUR side of the road; finally. [07:13] .oz? [07:13] in non-oz countries [07:13] .au [07:14] .oz as in aussie [07:14] .oz is not the TLD for australia. [07:14] it is .au [07:14] wizard of .oz [07:14] it's my news' and i'll call it what i want [07:14] oy oy oy [07:14] .cx is the TLD for christmas island, a territory of australia [07:14] AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE [07:14] the home of goatse [07:14] oi oi oi [07:17] neo01: after you'll settle your issue, feel free to investigate this scenario, maybe it'll suit you better: http://pastebin.ca/1558236 [07:17] is scsi needed for atapi cd/dvd? [07:17] or is that a done arg? [07:18] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] Quiznos: I think that's not a requirement anymore with recent kernels [07:18] k [07:18] why aren't you using the stock kernel anyway? [07:19] are you challenging my right to compile randomly? [07:19] :) [07:19] absolutely not [07:19] heh [07:19] random compilation often leads to random issues :-) [07:19] yea [07:19] is scsi needed for sata hd? [07:20] look in the kernel docs, it explains what requires what [07:20] using make menuconfig, pressing ? brings up a screen that has the depends etc [07:20] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] i know that [07:22] neo01 (n=Administ@117.195.136.12) left irc: "Leaving" [07:22] anyone know anything about emulating a *real* minicom? [07:23] emul? [07:23] minicom? [07:23] what are you tawkin bout? [07:24] as in for the deaf [07:24] hes talking about sea creatures and wildlife [07:24] does not compute [07:25] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [07:25] zordrak no clue here :P [07:25] hi guys how i can get text2wave for slackware [07:25] refrase pls Zordrak [07:25] you mean a TDD,Zordrak? [07:26] if a tdd is a textphone aka minicom .. [07:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_device_for_the_deaf [07:26] yeah.. that [07:26] o [07:28] Quiznos: you ping me earlier? [07:28] attendance sheet [07:28] alienBOB: i diont suppose that means you know the answer... [07:28] last nite [07:28] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FCF38.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:28] last night was off night (holiday :) ) [07:28] k [07:29] caio (n=caio@200.2.124.206) joined ##slackware. [07:35] evanton (n=lol@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:35] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-19-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:36] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:36] OpenTTY seems right.. but also seems there has never been any released code for it [07:37] bnhashmi: text2wave is part of Festival. Perhaps you can install a Slackware pacakge from http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.2/utilities/festival/ [07:37] fred_ (i=3362@slamd64/fred) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Zordrak: you might have to scour the web...but know that some of that software is 10 or more years old [07:39] what does the "open" refer to then [07:39] apoca: did you get your system mounted yet? [07:40] MLanden: i am thoroughly scouring.. but not getting far [07:42] Zordrak: try google "linux accessibility deaf" [07:42] the only soln i can find is a windows app that still requires an acoustic coupler.. but may be able to work with SkypeOut using a virtual audio cable [07:43] MLanden: been there, done that :) [07:43] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:43] Nick change: fred_ -> fred [07:44] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:44] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [07:44] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] ok, I need to tune the kernel a bit later but now it works again [07:46] what is the prefered method on installing the fglrx driver on slack? [07:47] zmyrgel: Download the installer, run it with '--buildpkg Slackware/All' and then install the packages it created. [07:48] hm [07:48] adamk_: ok, thanks [07:48] adamk, i came across some that didn't have the Slackware/All target, ever seen that? [07:48] mancha: I've only tried the latest version (9.8) and it definitely had that target. [07:48] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:48] hey can anyone recommend any european mirror which has the Slackware 13 iso files? [07:49] im having troubles finding them [07:49] tewmten: elektroni.phys.tut.fi [07:49] cool thanks [07:50] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] adamk_: hmm, quaranteed ati driver quality... "unexpected EOF while looking..." and some syntax errors in the ati driver [07:50] Zordrak: what modem do you have? [07:50] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] hm, quite alright speed.. 4.8M/s [07:51] MLanden: a couple.. one in a latitude.. one external serial.. another couple hanging around [07:51] damn.. my computar is going slow now [07:51] adamk, dl link? [07:52] 5.13M/s [07:52] :D [07:52] finnish internet <3 [07:52] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-tvodicyeluzmdhco) left irc: [07:52] mancha: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.2&lang=English [07:52] Zordrak: are they TTY-compatible? 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[08:01] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:02] Zordrak: What is you need minicom to do? translate words to text? [08:02] yeah.. baudot [08:03] Have those channel guidelines been around longer than February of 2008? [08:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Zordrak: rtty software...ham radio ops use it [08:07] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Success [08:09] was looking [08:09] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:09] atm im trying out CallTTY with Virtual Audio Cable & SkypOut [08:09] Seemed to mork.. but am having trouble... seemed like i got cut off and hard to get back to them [08:09] (Student Finance England) [08:10] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-131.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Seems like theyre not picking up now.. but i cant echo the audio [08:10] You're using Windows? [08:10] vbox [08:11] hello all, I'm running slackware64 13.0 and I've some troubles with wicd: the very first time I load a saved (not default one) wired network profile, the program crashes with an obscure message: "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'ReadWiredNetworkProfile'". [08:11] Ah, I was going to say. :) Last time I used VAC (years ago) it was only on Windows. :) [08:11] does anyone have seen that error before? [08:13] sid77: Does it work with any other profile? [08:14] sid77: I have not seen the error before, and have not found anything on Google about it. [08:15] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [08:16] godling: restarting wicd-client will load it ok [08:16] I've only that profile (aparte from the default one) [08:16] *apart [08:17] sid77, try recreating that profile anew. i [08:17] i've had a similar problem with an earlier wicd version. [08:17] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:19] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [08:20] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:21] ah, great, my 36mb word document just died [08:22] slackytude: ms office or OOo? [08:22] ms [08:22] at least with MS, it'll probably recover itself [08:22] maybe [08:23] pshaw [08:23] I usually have to load it into OOo to fix things like that [08:23] well, I saved a minute earlier [08:23] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:23] so, Im guessing Im good [08:23] just annoying. I really, really, hate the dialouge windows gives you. This app doesnt respond, kill instantly? and then you push yes and it takes ages [08:23] I always have difficulty with the formatting of Word documents in OOo. [08:24] slackytude: windows greatest ever failure is its process management [08:24] godling: that's why you stick with OOo :) [08:24] slackytude: except maybe its kernel scheduler [08:24] alisonken1noc: Yes, and (apparently) the entire student body and faculty of my school sticks with MS Word. :) [08:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [08:25] and it's binary file formats and it's networking support and - oh wait, their networking sucks [08:25] slava_dp: good point, I'll try and report back any issues in the following days [08:25] Zordrak, sux [08:25] (testing the behaviour requires a reboot... I've had enough windowsisms for today :D ) [08:25] I guess that means its time for a break [08:25] sitting at the damn document since 8:30 am [08:26] anyone know if there is a way to interact with a Konsole buffer? like maybe dump it to a file? [08:26] quasar: the good old tee ;-) [08:26] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:26] or, if the output you need is already there, just copy and paste [08:26] ffs.. i cant work out how to use unrar [08:26] konsole should have an option to do that [08:26] the help is useless [08:26] Zordrak: what are you trying to do? [08:27] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:27] godling: unrar [08:27] Zordrak, why, it's simple. use no dashes. unrar e file.rar [08:28] ah.. was prepending "-" [08:28] Zordrak: note in the usage it does not recommend prepending a dash. :) [08:29] every dev has his own option style. [08:29] yes, and they all suck. [08:29] (instead of using getopt) [08:29] :D [08:29] What's a good filesystem to share a hard drive on my local network from my slackware box to be accessed by other slackware boxes and windows boxes? [08:30] actually it does seem to suggest using a dasth [08:30] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [08:30] i need to install packages on slackware over the network from this drive and I would think NTFS would be bad. [08:30] ahhh command vs switch [08:30] Ngovicska (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-hcjzyeejrnqjnulv) joined ##slackware. [08:30] i like unzip's usage page. fits exactly on one terminal. [08:31] Ola bruderz [08:31] Zordrak: yes, confusion. this is the main goal of the developer when writing a help message. [08:31] So I was thinking it might be a good idea to make two network drives, giving one just for that purpose and the other NTFS [08:31] of course [08:31] Chakravanti, ntfs? use samba and a real linux filesystem. [08:31] Why ntfs? [08:31] because windows needs to access the network drive as well [08:32] lol [08:32] If you use samba Windows will be able to. [08:32] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] Okay, thank you. [08:32] rudolfrg (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:33] You're welcome. [08:33] rudolfrg (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:33] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) joined ##slackware. [08:33] Chakravanti bruder aloha [08:33] That helps a number of things actually... [08:33] Ngovicska, ? [08:34] I am Ongavezir da Holyness brotha [08:34] :-D [08:35] Heya slava_dp brotha [08:36] beans43 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Ngovicska (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-hcjzyeejrnqjnulv) left ##slackware. [08:40] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [08:43] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@host233-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:46] how likely is it that someone with a laptop is going to absolutely need RAID as <*> in the kernel for them to be able to boot properly? [08:48] I suppose that depends on the circumstances, TwinReverb. [08:48] Well, if you enable raid.. and install to raid.. I guess you need raid. [08:48] Action: Dominian 's laptop will do raid1 or raid0 [08:48] Dominian, will? or can? [08:50] TwinReverb: how many laptops have more than one drive? [08:50] more than one internal hard drive? i don't think they sell any like that any more except the expensive business lines (and very few of them iirc) [08:50] TwinReverb: it can/will [08:51] alienware.. almost all of them have dual drives [08:51] It's really an intractable question. [08:51] Dominian, as in you own a laptop right now with a RAID controller and ... OH alienware [08:51] TwinReverb: many like mine have an option to remove the DVD drive and put it a hard disk [08:51] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:51] but RAID on a laptop would probably be rare [08:51] TwinReverb: yeah.. it has a raid controller.. its fake raid though [08:51] So I assume TwinReverb wants to converse about RAID and laptops. :) [08:51] you can enable it in the bios [08:51] thanks guys, i appreciate the input [08:51] grazymax (n=grazymax@host146-14-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:53] Didn't Alienware do RAID with SSDs awhile ago? Do they still? [08:53] beans43 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:53] I remember thinking that was nuts. [08:53] newXXXnew (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Stylles (n=Jully@201-41-199-174.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:54] hello everyone [08:54] Zordrak: Are you looking for ham radio software for Linux? [08:54] Stylles (n=Jully@201-41-199-174.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:54] Stylles (n=Jully@201-41-199-174.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:55] godling: no [08:55] alienware is nuts in general: they sell laptops that are 5x what people really need to accommodate gaming (which is in general a waste of time, or at least time spent not being productive) [08:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.30.248) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:55] yht (n=yht@114.123.97.131) joined ##slackware. [08:55] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-250-183.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:55] hi all [08:55] i've got a question about wicd? i am now using slackware 13.0, but whenever i connect to my wireless (wpa2), wicd connection is fine, but the internet speed is too slow [08:55] Zordrak: Sorry to assume; I must have picked up the wrong impression. [08:56] some people like 'em, that's fine. it's up to the consumer. me, however, i don't need one, won't buy one, and i've only seen people who wished they'd spent less [08:56] godling: trying to do baudotn [08:56] TwinReverb: They are remarkably shiny. [08:56] for deaf minicom [08:56] but its no use cos theyre not picking up on the minicom line anyway [08:56] newXXXnew, is this the first linux distribution that has done this? [08:58] take care,slackers....talk to all later [08:58] TwinReverb, i dont understand your question, sorry? [08:58] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [08:58] newXXXnew, have you tried any other linux distributions? [08:59] TwinReverb, no, i just wanna stick with Slackware [08:59] ugh [08:59] so many packages in the installer [08:59] who can help me with sudo in slackware? [08:59] werti_rus: whuts up? [08:59] what you need? [09:00] how ask passwd user , which in /etc/sudoers [09:00] newXXXnew, no, what i mean is have you had problems with this with any other linux distribution? did it work fine in some other linux distribution? [09:00] i'm only asking to see if it's specific to linux or to slackware [09:00] hi, if i start slack with init 3 and start xfce4 in the console all work fine [09:00] if i start slack with init 4 [09:00] werti_rus: you want a specific user to have root access through sudo? [09:00] Does Slackware no longer contain extra/ham? [09:00] i have no sound [09:00] tewmten> yes, [09:00] werti_rus: ok as root user, run visudo [09:00] any clue [09:01] phal, sounds odd [09:01] TwinReverb, i dont know, since i only use Slackware [09:01] phal, have you ever run alsaconf? [09:01] newXXXnew, ok nevermind then [09:01] newXXXnew, does dmesg say anything odd? [09:01] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:01] tewmten> no, not that's ) how to add in file i know [09:01] werti_rus: then you add a line like this: username ALL=(ALL) ALL [09:01] TwinReverb: sure [09:01] werti_rus: but change the username to your user [09:01] phal, i mean with your current installation [09:01] I notice on packages.search.it there are no ham radio packages to be found for Slackware > 12.0, yet I cannot find any mention of it in any changelogs. [09:01] Styllles (n=Jully@201.89.64.7) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:01] did you already do that? [09:01] werti_rus: ok then i missunderstood what you mean :p [09:01] if i start the window manage from init 3 it works [09:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:02] tewmten> but i don't know how right wrote this in file. I want use sudo with passwords user [09:02] yht (n=yht@114.123.97.131) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [09:02] werti_rus: i dont understand what you mean with passwords user :S [09:03] sorry [09:03] tewmten> wait) [09:04] Ah, there it is in the ChangeLog after all. [09:04] phal, i don't know what to say other than maybe you should configure kde's sound server [09:04] Sorry for the noise. [09:04] i wish you luck. g'night [09:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:06] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:08] lslacker_ (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:09] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) joined ##slackware. [09:09] mornin all. [09:09] Action: agentc0re does not want to go back to work. [09:09] after 5 day vacation... work is the last thing i want to do. [09:10] koojantrouble (i=ca36b033@gateway/web/freenode/x-oijmfipoxtptritc) joined ##slackware. [09:10] koojantrouble (i=ca36b033@gateway/web/freenode/x-oijmfipoxtptritc) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] quit! [09:10] sorry, I had a meeting [09:10] erm [09:10] mingdao: sorry I had a meeting ;) [09:11] slackytude|evil (n=hotline@p4FD8A375.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:11] I was gone also, apoca [09:11] Nobody is here! [09:11] the system is only booting when I autostart udev, if not it fails with "warning: unable to open an initial console" [09:12] another slackware system is running fine without udev [09:12] without udev? [09:12] oh shizle [09:12] this is taking alot of space [09:13] i think i accidently choose Full install :S [09:13] anyone got problems with wireless connection using wicd (surfing speed is very slow)? [09:14] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [09:14] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:14] apoca, recent kernels don't run without udev. your other slackware must be using 2.4. [09:16] Stylles (n=Jully@201-41-199-174.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:17] hi guys how i can get text2wave for slackware [09:18] newXXXnew (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Success [09:18] If I don't use KDE, I don't need akonadi, do I? [09:18] Or rather, am GTK+ only [09:18] bnhashmi, alien__ told you hours ago. [09:19] foureyes779 (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [09:19] yht (n=yht@114.123.170.229) joined ##slackware. [09:19] slava_dp: sorry i was out for meeting? so i could not get [09:19] bnhashmi: text2wave is part of Festival. Perhaps you can install a Slackware pacakge from http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.2/utilities/festival/ [09:19] slava_dp: rc.udev doesn't have x-bit, but it's running the same kernel [09:20] apoca, impossible. udev is essential. [09:20] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:21] If I enable udev, the same error occurs, but the machine isn't restarting and runnig fine then [09:21] Chakravanti: you don't have to have akondai _with_ KDE [09:21] Action: slava_dp does not know. [09:21] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.25.127) joined ##slackware. [09:21] okay thanks [09:21] weird :( [09:22] lslacker_: I've noticed a few posts here and there about problems with wicd this past week. [09:22] bhaki (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) left irc: "Leaving." [09:23] mingdao, so you know how to solve the problem? [09:23] nope [09:23] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] I don't know what is your problem atm. [09:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] bhaki (n=bhaki@121.242.77.130) joined ##slackware. [09:24] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89FAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] lslacker_: Just saying "surfing speed is very slow" is ambiguous at best. [09:25] lslacker_: Why do you say that? [09:25] mingdao, uhm, it's hard to explain [09:26] Speed is slower than normal here atm because lot's of kiddies are home and playing online games. [09:26] lslacker_: Always that way in the evenings here. [09:26] mingdao, let's say, i connect to internet using LAN cable, i surf internet normally, pages are loaded very fast [09:27] mingdao, but when i connect to internet using wireless, pages are loaded slowly, sometime my firefox freezes [09:28] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:28] lslacker_: Have you tried setting up your wireless in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and NOT using wicd? [09:29] morn [09:29] mingdao, to be honest, i dont know how. I am newbie [09:30] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] lslacker_: Can you issue "/sbin/iwconfig" in a terminal and paste the output in pastebin.com ? [09:30] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:30] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:31] lslacker_: I'll post you an example of /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf on my laptop for wireless. You should be able to substitute your values. [09:31] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [09:32] mingdao, i've copied to pastebin.com [09:33] http://pastebin.com/m3cb51f8d [09:33] lslacker_: you need to give us the address, like that ^^^ [09:33] PaddyMac (n=patrick@dialup-4.153.200.105.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] That is /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf for wireless on my laptop. [09:33] lslacker_: http://pastebin.com/m7e59bfeb <- that is your post [09:34] lslacker_: Access Point: Not-Associated [09:34] lslacker_: You are not connected to the wireless access point. [09:34] Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 [09:35] thats not a good link [09:35] i'm sick of menuconfig; are there any new tools for configing a kernel in console? [09:35] not good at all [09:35] mingdao, yes [09:35] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Quiznos, xconfig ? [09:35] console [09:35] he said in a terminal [09:35] randconfig [09:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:35] no i dint say term [09:35] make config any different? [09:36] NEW pls [09:36] Quiznos: so you didn't ... sorry [09:36] s'ok [09:36] make randconfig [09:36] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-TWO-TWELVE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [09:36] its nifty [09:36] Quiznos: check the README file with your kernel source ... they're all there [09:36] no, not rand [09:36] ok [09:36] aww [09:36] thanks slava_dp alien__ [09:36] then i'll be back for better answers [09:37] ok nothing new there [09:37] Quiznos: what does menuconfig not provide or do that you don't like? [09:38] variety; i want soemthing new [09:38] lslacker_: what does "/sbin/ifconfig" show? [09:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [09:38] i'm sick of it [09:38] Quiznos: must be console? [09:38] there's more than enough info in the kernel running to be able to auto-config (not autoconf) [09:38] Quiznos: the same opinion drove me to xconfig a few years ago [09:39] nods [09:39] Quiznos: I like the split windows it sets up, and the ease of seeing options [09:39] nods [09:39] Quiznos: but without Qt/KDE installed, it doesn't work. ;) [09:39] yht (n=yht@114.123.170.229) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] k [09:39] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host197-69-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:39] So I have to get some Qt into my sweet little system. [09:40] Quiznos: I went back to menuconfig, but decided it was so retarded that Qt wasn't TOO bad. ;) [09:40] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:40] he [09:40] Quiznos: One other masochistic option I did years ago ... [09:40] lslacker__ (n=lslacker@123.243.115.92) joined ##slackware. [09:41] wazit? [09:41] This one is definitely different, difficult, and will probably get me flamed ... [09:41] mingdao@jeremiah:~/kernel/linux-2.6.30.5$ vim .config [09:41] heh [09:41] I always use make randconfig [09:41] liar [09:41] But ... I have built a kernel doing that. [09:41] slackytude|evil: Why? [09:41] mingdao, for the lulz [09:41] You want a kernel for who's system? [09:41] slackytude|evil: You got too much time on your hands. ;) [09:41] mingdao, you see my new iwconfig detail? [09:42] lslacker__: It is kinda polite to post a link. Did you and I missed it? [09:42] mingdao, bah [09:42] ;) [09:42] mingdao, http://pastebin.com/m79d8d66e [09:43] lslacker__: Isn't that the same link? [09:43] The same info? [09:43] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [09:44] We need to look at /sbin/ifconfig <- notice the f (F) rather than w (W) [09:44] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.25.127) joined ##slackware. [09:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:46] mingdao, i will redo the command [09:46] lslacker__: it is /sbin/ifconfig ... not iwconfig [09:46] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [09:47] iw just shows the wireless ... if shows all the interfaces [09:47] minhdao: yep http://pastebin.com/mc1d1233 [09:47] winky (n=jasons@koala.veriovps.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:47] nepenthe (n=ville@85.77.224.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] toodles [09:48] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [09:48] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.25.127) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:48] lslacker__: are you messing with me? [09:48] A few minutes ago wlan0 was not connected ... now it is. [09:49] I'm too old and too tired and it's past my bedtime. [09:49] mingdao: im sorry, i just try to connect to wireless using wicd, [09:49] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] mingdao: it make my firefox freeze, that's why i response to you slowly [09:49] lslacker__: Okay, let's cover some bases. Is this your internet connection, or are you war driving? [09:50] Okay. [09:50] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) left irc: "Saindo" [09:50] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] mingdao, if i use wired Lan cable, speed is okay, problems happen when i use wireless [09:51] mingdao , i sorry, i dont wanna to bring you troubles [09:51] lslacker__: Are you connected to the same router with the wired cable and wireless? [09:51] yes [09:51] lslacker__: no troubles mate [09:52] lslacker__: Your connection to the router looks fine. [09:53] lslacker__: You wanna just try /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf without using wicd? [09:53] yht (n=yht@114.121.79.0) joined ##slackware. [09:53] yep, i will follow what you post in pastebin.com earlier [09:53] lslacker__: First, disconnect from the wireless, and connect to the wired. Second, post your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf to pastebin. [09:53] nepenthe (n=ville@KDLXXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:53] lslacker__: I can give you settings for YOUR network. [09:54] guys does slackware install ok on vmware server 2? [09:54] i am having issues with the menus dying on me. [09:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.65.63) joined ##slackware. [09:55] lslacker_ (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:58] lslacker__: lslacker__ before making changes to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf you need to save it, IF you want to use wicd again [09:58] lslacker__: because wicd requires an unedited /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [09:59] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] holy crap; i need an english-parser [10:00] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.25.127) left irc: Client Quit [10:00] menu-death? is it self-inflicted or murder? [10:00] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:00] someone has any idea about this error message when starting rc.syslog: process `syslogd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT ? [10:01] old version? [10:01] diven (n=diven@64.79.213.171) joined ##slackware. [10:01] glibc messing [10:01] I'm running 12.2 with kernel 2.6.27 [10:01] change libs [10:01] lslacker__: might seem like entropy to some, but I keep rc.inet1.conf.wicd rc.inet1.conf.wired rc.inet1.conf.wireless and rsync whichever is needed to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [10:01] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:02] xover menu-death? is it self-inflicted or murder? [10:02] why does wicd "require" a blank rc.inet1.conf ? [10:02] not blank [10:02] blank in the sense of un-edited, if you are into taking things extremely literal [10:03] thrice`: it doesn't have to be "unedited" [10:03] I don't think it does either :> [10:04] lslacker__ (n=lslacker@123.243.115.92) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:04] rc.inet1 can establish a connection, then wicd can start and realize that it exists. [10:04] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:04] And, in most cases, do nothing. [10:04] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:04] thrice`: ./extra/wicd/README.SLACKWARE [10:04] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] winky (n=jasons@koala.veriovps.co.uk) left ##slackware. [10:06] mingdao: true, but wicd will run perfectly fine. [10:06] Not for everyone, apparently. [10:06] s/will/should [10:07] agreed [10:07] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [10:07] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Maybe you should contact rworkman and/or Pat and help them with the docs. [10:07] mingdao: btw, NaCl is a WICD developer, but keep arguing, please [10:07] Apparently there was enough issue for them to put that in the docs. [10:08] hi guys, i am receiving an error on slackware install regarding /var/log/mount/slackware/k/kernel-source-2.6.29.6,. package is corrupt [10:08] i have running from a mounted ISO [10:09] xover: well, if it's JUST that package, you should be fine; it doesn't contribute anything to the install, other than plopping the kernel source into /usr/src/. however, I'd be weary if other packages are OK. did you checksum your iso ? [10:09] NaCl: Are you saying wicd always works without removing any references to interfaces from /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? [10:09] whats the command for that thrice? [10:10] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@82.225.203.40) joined ##slackware. [10:10] I am having problems with battery life on a eeepc 1005, with slackware 13. acpi seems to be working. anyone know what i should look into? [10:10] xover: md5sum file.iso, and compare to what the mirror claims it should be [10:11] mingdao: Unless I am mistaken, I have had rc.inet1 establish my connection on eth0 before wicd ran before my HDD failed about 6 months ago. [10:11] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-evyeivgdgtmustzs) joined ##slackware. [10:11] lslacker__ (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:11] sinkigobopo: there are a few things that contribute to battery life. is your cpu being throttled ? [10:11] mingdao: you generally don't want that, since wicd is a bit more dynamic than rc.inet1 is. [10:12] NaCl: But that didn't really answer my question. [10:12] thrice`: rc.inet1 is only run on boot right [10:12] ? [10:12] mingdao: http://pastebin.com/dbd7a3a3 <-- my rc.inet1.conf [10:13] do i need the .asc file to do this? what is that for? [10:13] NaCl: the init scripts only call it at boot, sure [10:13] Ok. [10:13] mingdao: i posted 5 mins ago, look like you did not received it [10:13] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [10:13] mingdao: I see no reason why it could not work. Still, it's not recommended. [10:14] NaCl: thanks [10:14] thrice`: a cat of /proc/acpi/processor/P001/throttling doens't appear to be changing state, no. [10:14] NaCl: I have seen instances when wicd did not work if inet1.conf had interfaces configured. [10:14] ShKoDrAnI (n=ShKoDrAn@80.78.76.19) joined ##slackware. [10:15] NaCl: And apparently there is reason it is written that way in the Slackware docs. [10:15] But then, thrice` could probably enlighten everyone else. [10:15] mingdao: I'd stamp that with a "YMMV" [10:15] sinkigobopo: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/eeepc-acpi-scripts/ might be of use [10:15] mingdao: sorry, i've deemed you generically clueless, and try to avoid discussions with you. [10:16] keep doing it the way you are if it works [10:16] lslacker__: That's the file before editing ... if you know your gateway, netmask, and desired IP you can setup the file. [10:16] lslacker__: But NaCl is a wicd developer, so maybe he can help you. [10:16] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [10:16] lslacker__: I don't have any difference with wireless whether I configure it in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or wicd. [10:16] Throttling wireless in wicd can only be done with a postconnect script. [10:17] thrice`: same thoughts on you bud [10:17] thrice`: thanks, i will give that a try. [10:17] thrice`: seems you know everything about everything ... [10:17] mingdao: thanks for your help [10:17] thrice`: and are determined to argue you way into oblivion [10:17] thrice: I have run that command and it gives me a key value now what do i compare it with? [10:19] so how i can see postconnect script? [10:19] mingdao: great; kindly ignore me and move on [10:19] xover: you have the dvd, or? [10:19] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) joined ##slackware. [10:20] xover: when you run "md5sum yourfile.iso", it should match: [10:20] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0-iso/slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5 [10:20] thrice`: you do the same bud [10:20] lslacker__: there is a "scripts" button in the wicd GUI [10:20] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) joined ##slackware. [10:20] NaCl: thanx [10:20] hey everyone....im sure this request has been beaten to death...but any ideas about kde 4.3.1 on slackware...cant find any packages anywhere except for x64 release :-p [10:21] lslacker__: There's a way to do it globally, but I forgot about how to do it. [10:21] which packages [10:21] rogersman: ^^ [10:21] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-85.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] lslacker__: iwconfig wlan0 probably will say something about a really low bit rate if your wireless is really slow. [10:22] well, i dont wanna compile the whole thing from source....txz packages was what i mean..soz [10:22] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Success [10:22] NaCl: his was 54 Mb/s [10:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:22] I see. [10:23] rogersman: where were you looking for the slackware 32-bit packages? [10:23] http://pastebin.com/m79d8d66e [10:23] u2pian (n=guest@124.6.168.176) joined ##slackware. [10:23] in networking programming, in server side, s2 = accept(s1,...); can the server use s1 to communicate in any way to the new client? I know, that normally the server should use the newly spawned socket s2 to talk back..just curious. [10:23] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-249-151-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:23] slackware current [10:23] mingdao: Sounds like funky drivers [10:23] & testing [10:23] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:24] mingdao: but I can't really know for sure. [10:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.11) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:24] PaddyMac (n=patrick@dialup-4.153.200.105.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] rogersman: interesting - I have both 32-bit and 64-bit slackware -current that I rsync from (same server). is there a specific package you were looking for? [10:25] kde 4.3.1 [10:25] rogersman: you have 64-bit ? [10:26] lslacker__: what does "/sbin/lspci | grep -i wireless" output? [10:26] rogersman: unofficial, but works well on my machine; vbatts made some up @ http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ [10:27] sweet...nice one thrice..ill give it a go...cheers [10:27] thrice`: was looking for those [10:28] bah only for x64 [10:28] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:28] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:28] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] so it seems....sniff..:-( [10:28] Nick change: omni_sleep -> omni_school [10:28] oh, oops; I thought he wanted x64, but he says anything BUT 64 :> [10:28] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] i thought it strange 4.3 wasnt included in 13 release...its really a lots less buggy..it's been over a month...sigh [10:30] lslacker__: then look at the driver being used ... "lspci -v" as root ... if NaCl's hunch is right, you might can use a different driver [10:30] but it's a lot more of work to get it working [10:31] rogersman: keep in mind - if it was released in the last 6 months it may not be stable enough for pat :) [10:33] yht (n=yht@114.121.79.0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:33] hmm i guess, but they were very quick to ditch 3 series, before (IMHO) 4 series was mature [10:33] that's the kde guys for yu [10:33] thrice`: How long did 4.3.1 take to build on your machine? [10:34] u built it from source? ure a brave man thrice! [10:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] did i read that right, someone built KDE from source? [10:35] omni_school: 4.2, nearly a month ago [10:35] i was so eager to try 4.3 i tried fedora....never again...i love slack but damn it theres some kick ass features on the latest kde release! [10:35] nyRednek (n=yosi@rrcs-24-39-107-170.nyc.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] yht (n=yht@114.121.79.0) joined ##slackware. [10:36] i like plasmacon with 4.3, i ran the chakra project while i waited on slack64 to come out [10:37] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@82.225.203.40) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:37] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware. [10:37] I've built KDE4.3 a number of times on my freebsd box. Gotta love ports. [10:37] I'd like to build 4.3.1 on my Celeron 266, 4.3 GB HD, 128 MB Ram. :P [10:37] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:37] :D [10:37] hello guys [10:38] hello g4tt0 [10:38] the funny thing is, slackware packages for 4.2 were available within 4 days of release... [10:38] mr_patterson, you sure you want to use anything new than KDE 2.6 [10:39] lslacker__ (n=lslacker@123-243-115-92.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.89) joined ##slackware. [10:42] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] u2pian (n=guest@124.6.168.176) left ##slackware. [10:42] omni_school: Of course. They claim KDE 4 is fast, but that's only true, if it's fast on my Celeron. :P [10:43] on another topic, has usb install with slackware been perfected yet? by that i mean, can the entire installation source be put onto 1 usb pen drive? i can do it with 2 but that seems a bit low-tech! [10:44] if you have an 8G thumbdrive, then you should be able to install from one [10:44] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:44] however i recall that when formatiing the pen drive for usb installation, not only is it wiped but further installation data cannot be added to it...unless something has changed in the last 4 months [10:44] mr_patterson: you may be right; but i would keep KDE 2.6 ready, just in case [10:45] omni_school: hahah [10:45] omni_school: KDE 2.6? [10:46] yes. [10:46] ok - nothing like keeping the classics, I guess :) [10:46] did you read the specs on his computer, i think it was a celeron 800Mhz [10:46] ah [10:47] and a UBER huge HDD @ 4.*gb [10:47] i have a morbid curiosity to see it that works. [10:48] omni_school: You are too kind. My CPU is a Celeron 266. :P [10:48] mr_patterson: is that a 266Mhz. or a model number [10:49] yes [10:49] omni_school: Mhz. [10:49] lol [10:49] mr_patterson: you sure it wont fry the mobo? [10:50] me personally i would stick to the legacy for this compy [10:50] but if it does run i wanna know [10:50] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:51] omni_school: "Legacy" makes that computer sound old, and it's hardly older than 9 years. :P [10:51] mr_patterson, i think that qualifies as "Legend" [10:51] Now, is that multiplied by 7 in computer years? [10:52] could be, but not sure, at least 7 years, on newer computers i think its tripled, because of HDD falures [10:52] lol I remember paying Dell $3000 for that laptop. [10:53] wow... [10:53] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-249-151-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [10:53] my father paid 2000€ for mobile phone in eighties ;P [10:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.65.63) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:54] Yeah, those Motorolla bricks. [10:54] yeah [10:54] rez [10:55] my dad got one in the early ninties, and ATT brought it to the house and showed him how to use it, that guy was there for like an hour showing dad how to use a phone that had like 5 features and caller ID wasn't one of them [10:55] Action: hitest is happy. I acquired an old Plll 667 MHz IBM 300PL from work that no one wanted. It has a 20 GB HD and 256 MB RAM. It is happily running Slack 13.0 and Fluxbox. It is pretty snappy. [10:55] what was your first personal computer? [10:56] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: Client Quit [10:56] mine was an xt clone that had a shift register for keyboard i/o [10:56] hitest: ^^ [10:57] atari 800xl or com 64 [10:57] Action: winter p75, 8mb ram, 850mb hdd, floppy, cdrom 8x, some isa sound card, dos, w95 [10:57] I had the Commodore 64. [10:57] mr_patterson: :) [10:57] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) joined ##slackware. [10:58] but i installed w95 later [10:58] fscking insane hardware [10:58] i've heard that some pips overcloacked it to 3ghz [10:59] I ran keyboard punch cards in the 70s, running programs on the university mainframe. my first compter that I owned was a P150 IBM with 16 MB RAM, running win95. [10:59] *computer [11:00] I totally need a 1366 Mobo and one of them new i7s. [11:00] hitest: WoW. [11:00] hmm. atari800xl. that was a machine [11:01] Action: ananke always wanted commodore 64 instead [11:01] Action: hitest is heading off to work:( [11:01] bbl [11:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] i did the punch cards in college too [11:02] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] i think ii still have the atari and commodore in the basement [11:04] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.7.136) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [11:05] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [11:05] my first computer that wasn't my parents was a 586 [11:05] The home computer has definitely come a long way. [11:05] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [11:05] I put slackware on it though, in 1995 or 6 [11:06] I used to skip 2nd period history class in h.s. to play with the trash80 at the store [11:06] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-162-6.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] that was when radio shack was actually decent [11:06] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.7.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:06] I gave up making out with a girl at 14 to install slackware. that was hardcore [11:06] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-28-84.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:06] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:06] Action: slackytude|evil slaps ngworekara [11:06] whoa - that is hard core [11:07] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [11:07] yht (n=yht@114.121.79.0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:07] first rule of being a geek - never pass up a chance to make out, you never know when you'll be distracted [11:07] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-61-180.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] second rule, always follow first rule [11:07] or is that fight club, i forget [11:08] you do not talk about fight club [11:08] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:08] lol but I had to tell her about this new fancy thing called lienooks that was going to save us from microsoft [11:08] Action: slackytude|evil slaps ngworekara again, harder [11:08] Action: alisonken1noc adds to the slap [11:08] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-189-33-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [11:08] ok - time to head home [11:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:09] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-162-6.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] how do i restart a service? [11:09] i want to reload sshd [11:09] /etc/rc.d/sshd restart [11:09] ta [11:09] da [11:10] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:11] guys ps show runlevel 3, yet rc3.d is empty? why? [11:12] wrong dir [11:12] alisonken1home: Not that you never know when you'll get distracted, rather you never know when you'll get the chance again -- you know, being a geek and all. [11:12] SPY!!! [11:12] wrong init style [11:12] have they moved to rc.d/rc?.d now? [11:12] nah [11:14] Because, in short, I'd never be too distracted for pussy. [11:14] Hey ooo [11:14] ##slackware's acting classy again [11:14] Action: Quiznos watches channel G-rating fly out M# again [11:14] will all the ubuntu users please stand up [11:15] Action: Quiznos pokes ##Slackware and falls over [11:15] Action: theblackbox switches the lasers on [11:15] Action: Quiznos spins daCeilingBall [11:15] anyone successfully using the latest version (6.5.x) of VMware on sw 13? [11:16] I'M NOT TAKING THE Rap FOR mr_patterson'S BadBehavior [11:16] (tm) [11:17] eri-rrr [11:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.65.18) joined ##slackware. [11:17] that kind of rap? [11:17] rogersman: Is that vmware player? [11:17] error [11:17] Quiznos: hahah [11:17] pfiffle [11:17] guys slackbuilds.org hasn't rtorrent on 13 version of slack...can i use 12.2 version? [11:18] this is my first day with slackware, its breaking my balls, by ouuuuuu I like it! [11:18] workstation...keeps looking for kernel headers (which are already installed)... [11:18] v4nelle, probably. [11:18] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:19] rogersman: I don't use VMWare any longer [11:19] Action: Dominian uses virtualbox [11:19] virtual box? [11:19] yep [11:19] Action: hiptobecubic uses kvm [11:19] i need usb support tho [11:19] However, I use the binary edition and not OSE [11:19] rogersman: vbox does usb support [11:19] and has for a while [11:19] only propietary version tho , right? [11:20] yeah.. I don't believe that's enabled in OSE yet, but from what I recall it will be soon [11:20] rogersman: is it a problem to use the proprietary version? [11:20] kvm has usb, but not usb2.0 i don't think [11:20] VBox doesn't do muliprocessor/core yet, does it? I've seen the option, but it's greyed out. [11:20] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.28.8.62) joined ##slackware. [11:20] mr_patterson: I'm pretty sure in the binary version you can assign more than one core [11:20] mr_patterson: yes, it does (in the latest release) [11:20] the older version of vmware works find...but im one of those people who likes the latest version! [11:21] Oh, cool. [11:21] @sitwon...its a problem if i wanna use legally ;-) [11:22] sitwon: use what legally? [11:22] er.. [11:22] rogersman: use what legally? [11:22] Camarade_Tux: upgraded to 2.6.31rc9git1, changed lilo option. BANG. immediate catch :D [11:22] VirtualBox is free for use no mattrer what iirc [11:22] including the binary version [11:22] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:22] uhm, no [11:22] Nick change: theblackerbox -> theblackbox [11:22] propietray version of vbox (which includes usb support) must be bought... [11:22] you two people talking virtualization, have you tried the redhat kvm thing? I saw benchmarks that made it seem a lot faster than competitors [11:22] Dominian: afair you can use the binary for free, when you are able to install it [11:23] Dominian: s/install it/install it yourself/ [11:23] pprkut: yep [11:23] pprkut: haha what does that mean? [11:23] pprkut: The licensing doesn't say there is any limitation of legalites of someone ina private home or a public buisness use it.. [11:24] that may be, yes [11:24] So once again I ask: What legality issues are there with VirtualBox? [11:24] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-28-84.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [11:24] rogersman: I don't remember paying anything to download it [11:24] well, -ose is gpl [11:25] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.14.199) joined ##slackware. [11:25] free version of vbox is fine...unless u want usb support..which is only included in proprietary version..which i *could* get if im happy to go to mininova...hence legal issue! [11:25] bullshit [11:26] rogersman: no Imean you can download v3.0.4 from virtualbox.org (binary release) and it supports USB2.0 just fine [11:26] Um, go to their site and download the latest version? [11:27] is UDP simplex or half-duplex? [11:27] the VBox definition of "Personal Use" is extremely liberal [11:27] i shall try out latest version in that case...tho usb support was not available last time i had a look...cheers [11:27] slackwared: what!? [11:27] Dominian: more !s reqd [11:27] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] yah no kidding [11:28] rogersman: The instructions for setting up USB is clearly explained in the manual. [11:28] is slack book 3.0 is completed? [11:28] no [11:28] slackbook.org should tell you [11:29] then, what is the time to release? [11:29] Padhu: fail [11:29] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Client Quit [11:30] so the version the supports usb is still free but not open source? okay [11:30] bingo [11:30] rogersman: subject to a custom licence agreement [11:31] slackytude|evil (n=hotline@p4FD8A375.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] i can live with that :-) [11:31] rogersman: Yeah, for example you can't use the USB version for evil. You must use it to better mankind in some way or other. [11:31] Yes, work has begun on a slackbook 3.0! This is a complete re-write and should be available sometime in mid 2009.=.> website out of update :-( [11:32] thats okay...my nuclear missiles run on firewire anyway [11:32] Well, that's okay, then. [11:32] Dominian: UDP is a simpler message-based connectionless protocol. Connectionless protocols do not set up a dedicated end-to-end connection. Communication is achieved by transmitting information in one direction from source to destination without verifying the readiness or state of the receiver. [11:32] great for daisy-chaining [11:32] slackwared: ... [11:32] slackwared: I know what the hell UDP is [11:33] slackwared: Your questeion of duplex doesn't even make sense when referred to using UDP [11:33] "transmitting information in one direction" [11:33] I know what duplex is [11:33] do you know what that mean? [11:33] Yeah.. answer your own fucking question then. [11:33] "transmitting information in one direction" [11:33] slackwared: gtfo [11:33] Treat me like I'm some blooming idiot. [11:33] moron [11:34] :) [11:34] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] \ [11:34] my quetion was "is UDP simplex or half-duplex?" are you tard or something drug addicted? [11:35] maybe both [11:35] erm.... [11:35] UDP is encapsulated in IP surely? :S [11:35] which is encapsulated in another transport (ATM or Ethernet) methinks... [11:36] time for ur ketrasel white Dominian! [11:36] It's possibile to post the pastebin from the console? It's there any tool to do that? [11:36] where should i create a network share folder? [11:36] under /var [11:37] adeodatus, yes it's possible from within the same console [11:37] adeodatus, highlight text using gmp's mouse pointer [11:37] right click acts as a paste [11:37] adeodatus, gist, wgetpaste, pastebinit [11:38] slackwared, is your Ethernet full or half duplex? :P [11:38] pprkut: hehehe :P [11:38] slackwared, because UDP can be either methinks [11:38] slackwared: google holds the answer [11:38] and NthDegree hit the nail on the head [11:39] hiptobecubic: I wonder if those tools are in sbopkg repo. [11:40] adeodatus, not sure. [11:40] UDP is neither. duplex/simplex etc is a physical characterisitic of the system, UDP is just a packet protocol [11:40] so yes, NthDegree++ [11:41] adeodatus, wgetpaste is [11:41] egomosis (n=egomosis@58.20.34.95) joined ##slackware. [11:41] hiptobecubic: thanks, I'll install it. [11:42] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-85.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [11:42] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-96.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:42] adeodatus, it works alright, but read about the config file. it supports rafb... which is dead and gone, and osuosl... which now has a kaptcha that breaks it. [11:44] which one should I install then? [11:45] wgetpaste is fine, just set it to use dpaste or something [11:45] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:47] nopaste is still the best imo. no need to install it either. just copy it in path [11:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [11:49] sahko: Where can I finde nopaste? [11:49] ivenkys_ (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) joined ##slackware. [11:50] adeodatus: http://agriffis.n01se.net/nopaste/ [11:51] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@bas1-barrie18-1242380410.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:51] moin gents - i come with a question on /etc/resolv.conf - How do you configure a DNS client such that for different domains it goes to a different DNS Server , in the BSD world i would simply create a /etc/resolver/ directory and put in a file there containing the relevant nameserver [11:52] what are your guys' favorite app for remote desktop (to connect to windows server hosts) [11:52] i've bene using rdesktop, is there anything better [11:52] realvnc [11:52] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Zordrak: does that require me to open up any additional ports on a server [11:52] >.< [11:53] ivenkys_, I don't think the GNU glibc resolver supports that. It could, however, easily be rigged up in dnsmasq(8). [11:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.89) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] rob0: aah meaning the initial call will still go to A DNS server .., [11:54] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [11:54] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [11:54] anyone have a slackbuild for grip? (slack13 baby) [11:56] rob0: my problem is that my VPN connections end up changing the resolv.conf causing even non-VPN connections to go to my DNS server running inside my VPN at home - causing real slow connections [11:56] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:56] servers are BSD , clients are Linux [11:56] sahko: How to use nopaste from console? (I don't have X) [11:58] Ugly. I wouldn't let VPN connections change resolv.conf, and indeed, dnsmasq is an elegant solution. [11:58] nopaste --help [11:59] command not found [11:59] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-171-177.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ... [12:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Life is more challenging without a GUI. Be prepared to meet the challenge. Learn lynx(1) and links(1). [12:02] sahko:I typed this command nopaste --help I get this message:bash: nopaste: command not found [12:03] rob0: Thanks for that [12:03] briareus: tons of gnome deps for grip, IIRC. The version in 12.2 at Slackbuilds is not gnome dependant...have you tried to get it working on 13? [12:03] adeodatus: and you want me to teach you the basics of file permissions, $PATH, etc? [12:03] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-171-177.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:03] SpacePlod: no, but I will. [12:03] rogier (n=rogier@saymoo.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:03] \o/ [12:05] sahko: I'm only a newbie. [12:06] dear ##slackware, i may have met the awesomest girl ever [12:06] SpacePlod: what's the k ripper? is it part of k3b (think that's just for burning). I'm not a fan of gtk or more deps, but grip works pretty well for me. I'm open to other suggestions though. [12:06] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] spook: nice. I met an awesome one this weekend too [12:06] adeodatus: http://slackbook.org/html/filesystem-structure.html start with this. read the entire chapter 9 [12:06] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-61-180.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:07] especially 9.1 & 9.2 [12:08] gtg [12:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:08] briareus: I use XFCE, no idea what kde uses. I dont' do much ripping, but I've used Asunder in the past. Though not recently. [12:08] I used grip a couple of years ago on Gentoo. Liked it alog. [12:09] s/alog/alot [12:09] spook: what on IRC ..? [12:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] diven (n=diven@64.79.213.171) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:12] diven (n=diven@64.79.213.171) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Nick change: theblackbox -> GrammarNazi [12:13] "most awesome" [12:13] Nick change: GrammarNazi -> theblackbox [12:13] bah, can't believe that nick is reg'd =( [12:13] most awesomest. [12:14] johndee (n=id@93-81-119-58.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Action: theblackbox has a preference for tautologies [12:15] "epically awesomest" [12:15] If you have such a preference, then you have such a preference. [12:15] SpacePlod: so far so good, slackbuild for grip 12.2 went off without a hitch in 13. Let's see if it works... [12:15] Hot Diggity Dog! it do work. [12:16] briareus: nice. I'll keep that in mind. Once I get done testing this Slack64 install, I'm going to move on to the desktop. [12:17] has anyone gotten slackware to run in vmware workstation in Unity Mode? [12:18] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-evyeivgdgtmustzs) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [12:19] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-zatcbylipelgnlld) joined ##slackware. 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[12:27] but ff consumes almost half the memory [12:27] sla-ck-er, that's overkill for the distro to work.. but if you want to do major cpu dependend stuff, then you might run into slowdowns.. it's all depending on the usage. [12:27] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-131.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] sla-ck-er: I have 12.2 on a 733MHz P3 w/ 128MB and it runs KDE3 just fine. [12:27] but for basic stuff, it's a very powerfull system.. [12:28] rogier,would it help if i degrade to some 11 or 10 ? [12:28] sla-ck-er, no, doesn't matter [12:29] sla-ck-er: http://slackware.com/install/sysreq.php [12:29] sla-ck-er, cpu dependend stuff, is always cpu dependend.. that's byond the scope of the OS, but more the scope of the program [12:29] sitwon,basically people would need to use a browser for social networking and youtube thingy , but what worries me is firefox [12:29] sla-ck-er, why? [12:29] sla-ck-er: you can use a lightweight WM like fluxbox and start FF full-screened [12:30] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-171-177.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] sitwon,the users are sooo noob that they would need a third party support to use fluxbox :D [12:30] i would prefer xfce atmost [12:30] sla-ck-er: they don't need to use fluxbox, they just use FF [12:31] spook: for a minute there i thought you had found the holy chimera - a girl on IRC - surely such a thing is unheard of [12:31] rogier,on my 1GB ram desktop ff consumes almost around 80MB+ [12:31] lol [12:31] i thinke seamonkey is good enoug [12:32] _you_ think [12:33] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:34] FF w/o plugins will be fine in 128MB, it's when you have 50 tabs open to pages full of Flash that you run out memory [12:34] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:34] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-128-67-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Flash is the real culprit [12:34] true [12:35] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-87-25.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-53-95.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:37] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.18.static.nextweb.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] does anyone actually test Slackware on a 486? or do we just assume it works because it's compiled for that arch? 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[12:47] Hello humans [12:47] egomosis (n=egomosis@58.20.34.95) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] Action: theblackbox defies all accusations [12:48] Most of us defy gravity, but I guess that's pretty good, theblackbox :P [12:49] most of US ? [12:49] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:49] in the words of The Tick: "Gravity is a harsh mistress" [12:50] Nigromante: Oh, you can't? [12:50] you mean US or us? [12:50] us [12:50] ah ok [12:52] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:53] Guest3882 (n=root@34.pool80-102-173.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Help please [12:53] hi Guest3882 [12:54] talk spanish? [12:54] yes [12:54] Guest3882: #slackware-es [12:54] irc as root? [12:54] go to private [12:54] i know [12:54] This is an Encglish channel [12:54] okey [12:54] nigromante invite [12:55] to private [12:55] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-249-151-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:01] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.18.static.nextweb.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:02] hey, is this kernel error about virtualbox? http://powtrix.pastebin.com/d7e0d51c6 [13:02] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:03] powtrix: I doubt it [13:03] Hi, I got a system here with hplip 3.9.8 and when I run it I just get : warning: CUPSEXT could not be loaded. Please check HPLIP installation. CUPS is runnning. Can someone help? [13:03] powtrix: Doesn't even look like it go to loading the vbox kernel modules yet [13:03] Benjsh__: is CUPS running? [13:03] vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv [13:04] ps ax |grep cups says /usr/sbin/cupsd [13:04] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-TWO-TWELVE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] I think if I install multilib and compile virtualbox-ose will solve this error [13:05] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:05] naphula (n=zerox112@96.247.3.14) joined ##slackware. [13:05] did cupsext.o build when you made hplip? [13:06] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.14.199) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:06] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:07] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Dominian, its 3rd time this error knows when i was turnin-off one guest in vbox [13:07] jekkt_ (n=jekkt@84.138.95.214) joined ##slackware. [13:08] quasar: in my /hplip-3.9.8/ build directory i dont see the file not even in /hplip-3.9.8/.libs [13:09] i build with the configure command from the hp website [13:10] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-171-177.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] Rackattack (n=root@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] find / -name "cupsext.o" gave nothing [13:12] Benjsh__: Is there some reason you're not using the hplip package from Slackware..? [13:12] Wistful (n=gnome@unaffiliated/wistful) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Rackattack (n=root@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] jnylin (n=jnylin@c-5f72e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:16] cupsext.so, and it should be in /usr/lib*/python2.6/site-packages/ if you have it.. but Dominian does bring up a good question [13:16] Rackattack (n=root@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: [13:16] in python2.6/site-packages/ I have cupsext.so and cupsext.la [13:17] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:17] Hi.. Im an old slacker but have been "away" for a couple of releases (since slackware 10).. In that time I've got some bad habits, fglrx and samba-shares. Is it still a hassel to set up those things in current-release? I've been using debian to get away from samba and malfunctioning pyNeighborhood and stuff... But I miss slack too much to continue with debian =/ [13:17] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:18] i configured with the configure from http:http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/slackware.html [13:18] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:18] the ./configure --with-hpppddir=/usr/share/ppd/HP --prefix=/usr --enable-qt4 --enable-doc-build --enable-cups-ppd-install --disable-foomatic-drv-install --disable-foomatic-ppd-install --disable-hpijs-install --disable-policykit --disable-cups-drv-install --enable-hpcups-install --enable-network-build --enable-dbus-build --enable-scan-build --enable-fax-build [13:18] Action: quasar ignores Benjsh__ until he stops ignoring Dominian's question. [13:18] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [13:19] so could something be missing in the configure [13:19] Okay. Wicd works great. But I can't use it on any user but root. I put user "eric" in netdev, and it still gives me this: "Unable to contact the Wicd daemon due to an access denied error from DBus. Please check that your user is in the netdev group." [13:20] Rackattack: you did reboot? [13:20] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A5654.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:20] Yes. [13:20] Wait, did I? [13:20] > `uptime` [13:20] loging out and logging back in should do the same thing [13:20] Not quite [13:20] Oh? [13:20] Restarting messagebus is also required [13:21] I'll reboot, then. [13:21] reloading should also work [13:21] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] IT reads the group file once, at startup [13:21] Reloading would work too [13:21] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] saymoo (n=rogier@saymoo.xs4all.nl) left ##slackware ("Ik ga weg"). [13:21] Reload? As in... [13:22] /etc/init.d/rc.messagebus reload [13:22] *rc.d [13:22] bah [13:23] Also, I have few questions. [13:24] bad NaCl [13:24] How do I start XWindows into another desktop environment? [13:25] thrice`: I deal with a lot of people that use ubuntu. :P [13:25] select it from the menu [13:25] xwmconfig [13:25] I don't use KDM. [13:25] or what rob0 said [13:26] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:26] Next, my system takes an eternity to boot up. Any way to trim the boot time? [13:26] some things like fontconfig don't need to be run at every boot up [13:26] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:27] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Rackattack : 'boot time' is a very vague concept, and trimming it down would mean figuring out what takes time, and how much of it [13:28] ok. [13:28] trimming down is looking at what needs to run at boot, and what can be run at other times (like fontconfig) [13:29] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] johndee (n=id@93-81-119-58.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [13:29] fc-cache & ldconfig are prime candidates for being removed from every boot [13:29] Action: ananke never understood why they should be there [13:30] agreed; that's more of a package management item [13:30] TBH I have never worried about reducing boot time, since I so rarely reboot. [13:31] nvm, then :) [13:31] rob0 : some people have to reboot more often. laptops, dual boot, etc [13:31] except for my laptop, I agree with rob0 [13:31] and none of my machines multiboot [13:32] I think I've go 2 weeks or more uptime on the laptop even :) [13:32] it's certainly not an unreasonable request, to trim boot time [13:32] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [13:32] gades_ (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [13:32] I know, not unreasonable, I'm just saying ... I never bothered. [13:32] gades_ (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:32] except for the realtech rtl8185 locking up an old dell whenever the wireless i/f is brought up, that is [13:33] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [13:33] and this desktop has been running 85 days since last reboot (due to the wife doing _something_ I forgot) [13:33] Rackattack : consider commenting out ldconfig in the init scripts [13:33] how would i do this? [13:34] I think it's a good over-all thing, but someone like, say, ubuntu, making such a huge deal of reducing their boot from 20s -> 15s...meh [13:34] Rackattack : use a text editor [13:34] resources not-so-well spent, I think [13:34] thrice` : they have enough folks to dedicate resources to that [13:35] like me making a big deal of shaving 5 minutes from my morning commute of 45 minutes [13:35] Rackattack (n=root@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Rackattack: put a pound sign in front of the line in rc.M: # [13:35] # /sbin/ldconfig & [13:35] shaving off a total second or two are often pointless, but say reducing 25-50% of boot time is something worth exploring [13:36] alisonken1home: if you're anything like me, that's 5 extra minutes of shut-eye time outside the office before you go in :) [13:36] quasar: since I work nights, the kid's already got me up by then :P) [13:36] parallel init in slackware would be nice :) [13:36] his bedtime is my waketime [13:36] ah [13:36] rather than the current: load 1, wait; load 2, wait; load 3 [13:37] one place where this would be nice is runlevel 4. start loading your x/g/kdm while other components are being loaded, such as network [13:38] Didn't someone benchmark parallel booting? [13:39] other modern distros (non redhat/cannonical) can manage 15 second boots without huge issue, so I think it's advantageous [13:40] i did 22s on a 13.0 box [13:41] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.146) joined ##slackware. [13:41] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [13:41] rc.inet1 kills my time [13:42] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] OmegaSis (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:42] interesting way of doing dhcp client is to run it in the foreground for 10 seconds, and then background it [13:45] i think rc.inet script could use an overhaul, its kinda wacky when you want to do bridge setup or something, you have to edit it because some services (such as bind) dont start proper if you set ip stuff in rc.local [13:45] ananke, why? [13:45] hiptobecubic : why what? [13:46] dhcp client in fg [13:46] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.85.169.29) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [13:46] hy [13:46] hiptobecubic : initially? because some services may have trouble starting, if there is no network [13:47] it is posible to recover my windows partition that i`we backup it with " dd "? [13:47] dorin_ro : define 'recover' [13:47] Guest3882 (n=root@34.pool80-102-173.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:48] ananke, but why fg then bg and not dhcpcd & sleep 10 ? [13:48] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [13:48] dd(1) is a poor backup tool. [13:48] whell; i do " dd if=/dev/hda1 of=somefile.image" [13:48] sleep is evil. [13:48] now i want to recover/ mount it [13:48] hiptobecubic : because now you're sleeping for 10 seconds, regardless of whether you got a lease or not [13:48] rob0, therefore some use rsync ;P [13:49] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] btw [13:49] diven_ (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] all knowing slackware guys [13:50] how is it going with btrfs support? :) [13:50] diven_ (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:50] dorin_ro : again, define 'recover'. do you want to dump that image onto a device? [13:50] meaning, has anyone started to test? [13:50] dorin_ro : if so, dd if=somefile of=/your/device [13:51] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: No route to host [13:52] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [13:52] no; i can not do that; i do not have space or a partition large enough for that; so .i hope i can get the files stored in in that image [13:53] dorin_ro: it's a partition image, so mount it with loop [13:53] yay sex tomorrow [13:53] spook: not relevant... keep it to your self [13:54] linXea: i appologise. [13:54] yay sex tomorrow with a girl i just met thats into bondage and being dominated. [13:54] there, better? [13:54] agris: btrfs support ?? .. never heard of ? [13:54] op's, please show mr. spook the boot [13:54] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] linXea: what do you think this is? ##slackware? [13:55] linXea - butter fs :) [13:55] ok i got my hplip working. I have a HP photosmart connect in usb on this laptop. When I run hp-setup and select 0 for USB it just says no devices found. [13:55] something meant to beat zfs [13:55] :D [13:55] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:56] can u show me a command? because mount my/file/image /path/to does not work [13:56] agris: Ah, well it's not nearly finished but last time I heard they are still working on it, slow but makeing some progress.. [13:56] with -o loop ** [13:56] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] oh [13:56] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:57] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:57] cheez it! its the fedz! [13:59] dorin_ro: define "does not work". If you are using "-o loop", AND you have loop devices available, it should work [14:01] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:03] i did this: mount windows.imagine -t ntfs /media/windows/ -o loop (it mounts ok) but when i chance to /media/windows and i do ls i get: "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error" [14:03] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7263.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] have you tried without -t ntfs? [14:06] mount windows.imagine -t ntfs /media/windows/ -o loop ; so ,i think it is -t ntfs [14:07] i tried ntfs-3g too [14:07] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [14:07] try it without. [14:07] its a cd/dvd image no? [14:07] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:08] no, it is a backup with dd [14:08] dorin_ro: just for giggles...what does " [14:08] oops [14:08] what does "file" return? [14:09] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] i tried this : mount windows.imagine -t ntfs-3g /media/windows/ -o loop [14:09] and ia get : [14:09] jekkt_ (n=jekkt@84.138.95.214) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:09] Failed to read last sector (39070016): Invalid argument [14:09] HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet, [14:09] or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...), [14:09] Channel flood from dorin_ro -- kicking [14:09] or a wrong device is tried to be mounted, [14:09] or the partition table is corrupt (partition is smaller than NTFS), [14:09] dorin_ro kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:09] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.85.169.29) joined ##slackware. [14:12] ...so what does "file" return? [14:13] Nick change: stunix -> Guest77305 [14:13] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [14:13] nv4Phil (n=phil@24.249.194.158) joined ##slackware. [14:14] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.212.173) joined ##slackware. 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[14:24] i backuped my windows partition (/dev/hda1) and now i want to mount it or something to get my files back ; I do not have that partition anymore or space left for to do dd -if=windows.image *** [14:24] so;i do not know what the file return.. [14:24] dorin_ro: I understand that [14:24] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:25] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] file is a command...you do have access to the image, right?? if so, run the command "file ". [14:25] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] "file" will try to ID the filetype by content. In this case i'm just curious to see you are working with. [14:27] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-71-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[14:55] Lucas__ (n=Lucas@user-0c2ic8r.cable.earthlink.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] Slackware 13 + Windows XP in VMware's Workstation Unity mode = 100% AWESOME. [14:56] yes! [14:56] :) [14:56] finally got it working [14:56] what? vmware? ive been using it for some time now, since 12.0 [14:57] i could get unity to work properly [14:57] saves me the trouble for times when i need windows @ office :) [14:57] especially not with dual monitors [14:57] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:57] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.75.28) left ##slackware. [14:57] i don't think it could handle photoshop though.. [14:57] oh, well i dont really need unity, but it worked fine i think [14:57] but that's okay cause this is my office computer at work [14:57] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.212.173) left irc: Client Quit [14:57] now im wondering if i can get a windows xp host to use slackware in unity mode [14:58] hmm, if you dont need too many options, theres a 'portable cs3' [14:58] but im pretty sure its not supported [14:58] well since there are vmware tools for linux, im sure it should work [14:58] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [14:59] i have a portable cs4 [14:59] i oughta tyr that [14:59] but can't here at work for obvious reason [14:59] Channel flood from HoldMyPocket -- kicking [14:59] s [14:59] HoldMyPocket kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:59] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-1-74.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) joined ##slackware. [14:59] he he [14:59] type slowly! :) [14:59] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:00] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) joined ##slackware. [15:00] oops =X [15:01] well kids I am wireless in linux - although I am still not sure why and how [15:02] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.18.static.nextweb.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-1-74.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:04] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] Quiznews' ibm cools chip with integrated h2o [15:05] news' toyota shows off chait @36MPH [15:06] new' optical computer does its first math; find factors of 15 [15:07] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:07] news' apple bans c64 emu; then ok's it. [15:09] PurpleSmurf: stop it [15:09] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:09] alienBOB - ban it :) [15:09] why, there's no chatter atm [15:09] Still, cut it [15:10] This is not a channel to blurt your random stuff into [15:10] dorin_ro: sorry I was afk. the output of file is good. I would loop associate the image directly and run ntfsinfo on it. at this point, without access to the image, troubleshooting is gonna be hard. Are you sure the image is the right size for the original partition (no dd errors)? [15:10] it's not random and its' not mine [15:10] it's news [15:11] Nick change: SiegeX- -> SiegeX [15:11] PurpleSmurf, just be fu(k off [15:12] wether it's news or your masturbation [15:12] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:12] i'm starting to be sick on mizathropy [15:12] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-19-160.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:13] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.237.43) joined ##slackware. [15:13] what;s that? [15:13] Misanthropy is a general dislike, distrust, contempt, or hatred of the human species or a disposition to dislike and/or distrust other people's silent consensus about reality. [15:13] !kick PurpleSmurf for trolling [15:13] agris: stop the agitating [15:13] oh misanthrope [15:13] you hate people. [15:14] no, it's not like that [15:14] yea, there's alot of that [15:14] sure it is [15:14] you hate people [15:14] PurpleSmurf kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: One warning should suffice. Next time, ban time [15:14] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] let's go gay [15:14] are you a racist also? [15:14] oh kick him [15:15] that's ##politics [15:15] winter, Some of us are already there. [15:15] has anyone else had issues with firefox not keeping bookmarks? [15:15] adamk_: ? [15:15] acidchild, do you have reasonable permitions for bookmark file? [15:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:15] Quiznos kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Cut the trolling after your first warning next time [15:15] PurpleSmurf kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Cut the trolling after your first warning next time [15:15] how so? in firefox? O. [15:16] Well well our purple smurf was Quiznos??? [15:16] ls -sailk ~/.mozilla/ [15:16] alienBOB: Nice job. Just switched over here myself. [15:17] adamk_: where? [15:17] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] alienBOB, yeah purplesmurf was one of his pseudos [15:18] I got a 100% off-topic question, but I trust this channel to give me better advice than ##windows. [15:18] He is whining n PM now our smurf [15:18] Alan_Hicks, what is it? [15:18] yeah he did to me too once [15:19] I no longer try to help him [15:19] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hi does anyone know how to install the php mcrypt module? [15:19] Potential new client needs his Active Directory system migrated to a new server. They're both Windows Server 2003. Since I know next to nothing about AD, I'm leaning towards walking away from the job rather than risk doing half-assed work. Still, I said I'd look into it. I'd appreciate any advice (including links to documentation) on how best to migrate AD from one server to another. [15:20] they are strict on keeping windows? [15:20] Alan_Hicks: the best way is to make them in one forest [15:20] It's a little bit more complicated though, 'cause some luser has been running around on these systems as Administrator and has a number of key systems fucked up. For example, Start-> Help and Support doesn't even work. [15:20] agris: A forest? That's something I shoot deer in. [15:20] well, make it a tree [15:21] there's root, and forest [15:21] ok ;tnx guys for help [15:21] Alan_Hicks: you have learning time? [15:21] A tree? That's something I shoot coons in. :-) [15:21] acidchild: Not much. [15:21] Hence why I'm leaning away from the job. [15:21] agh! I had no idea web sites could change the mouse cursor in firefox! Anyone know a way to keep that from happening? [15:21] Alan_Hicks: have they given you a wish list on paper or email? [15:21] rather than just oral, atleast then you know what your getting in to and reject any add-on jobs. [15:21] you can keep later AD server for a while, and make another one as just the same permision in forest, then make new at as global catalog [15:21] dorin_ro, did you resolve your windows image problem? [15:21] Just oral. [15:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:22] when it is done, you can half/half chances to remove latter server out from AD [15:22] noup; i think i had a bad image file (maybe dd error) [15:22] so i fix it by rm :P [15:22] agris: i'm guessing they want a rebuild... [15:22] that would be the safest way [15:22] not a half-ass. [15:22] Urchlay: It's probably javascript. Disable that temporarily, or try the NoScript extension. [15:22] oh well, that's one solution :-) [15:22] Alan, ldif(5) and maybe some kind of LDAP dump tool. [15:22] Alan_Hicks: no AD experiance? [15:23] :) had to make some AD recoveries :) [15:23] acidchild: Well, not entirely "none". I did run the AD Uninstaller on Windows Server 2000 once. :-) [15:23] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [15:23] dorin_ro: if you do that in the future (use dd) be sure to md5 the partition (/dev/sdxy) and the image when it's done. If they match, it's a good image... [15:23] win2k is not the same [15:23] Alan_Hicks: is it just the AD or is it other things too? [15:23] Yeah, I quickly figured that out today when I arrived onsite to meet with the potential client. [15:24] Alan_Hicks: the page in question, needs JS to function (I had to "temporarily allow this page" in noscript). I was more looking for a way to disable the browser's ability to change the mouse cursor at all... [15:24] acidchild: Pretty much just the AD. Other things are simple like printers and crap. [15:24] some info how to make md5 checksum? [15:24] Alan_Hicks: urg. drop it [15:24] Alan_Hicks, main point is, what would save you a lot of trouble, if you could run old and new AD server at the same time [15:24] Urchlay: I don't know. Might want to search about:config for anything relevant. [15:24] yeah [15:24] dorin_ro, 'md5sum file' [15:24] acidchild: That's what I'm leaning towards. [15:25] yeah... reputation > * [15:25] can research it myself, was hoping someone in here would happen to go "Oh, I did this last week, here's how..." :) [15:25] I got that telcom job. They sent over an agreement today ;) [15:25] and for my partition a " md4sum /dev/hda1 " ? [15:25] I'm stoked [15:25] Urchlay, I've not seen a site that does that for a while. [15:25] antiwire: woooooooooooohooooooooooooooo! [15:25] \o/ [15:25] congrats :D [15:25] Wistful (n=gnome@unaffiliated/wistful) left irc: "kernel panic, ouch!" [15:25] rob0: Thanks, but that's looking to be a little more than I wanna go in for. [15:25] thanks [15:25] dive: this is a horrid myspace page [15:25] dorin_ro: yeah, but use md5um not 4some. [15:26] dorin_ro, no idea, I've never md5sum'd an entire partition/disk before [15:26] gawd...that's atrocious typing. [15:26] anyone setup mcrypt for php on slack? [15:26] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] yes...for a device, do "md5sum /dev/hda" [15:26] dive: for a band that I started playing with (the page was put together by the guitar player long before we ever met, and it's a typical ugly mostrosity) [15:26] cadmium: its on sbo [15:26] whats sbo ? [15:26] or "md5sum /dev/hda1" for a partition [15:26] cadmium: Oh man! I haven't looked at that in a long time! [15:26] http://slackbuilds.org cadmium [15:27] ldapsearch(1) IIUC can do a dump, if the AD server allows it, of course. [15:27] when you image it with dd, the hashes should exactly match. [15:27] antiwire: congrats [15:27] mkay.. [15:27] rob0, it won't dump passwords ;P [15:27] so skip it [15:27] rob0: thanks! it was one crazy process [15:28] antiwire, yeah nice one on that :-) [15:28] antiwire: once you learn it though, next time your in the power seat =] [15:28] and you can make them sign shit to protect yourself [15:29] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Alan_Hicks: you probably would want to look in this one> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6f86937b-533a-466d-a8e8-aff85ad3d212&displaylang=en [15:30] hi guys how i can generate a .wav file from a text file using festival [15:30] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] lol [15:31] A .wav file from .txt?! [15:31] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] indeed. [15:31] using festival.. [15:31] Well, it's possible. [15:31] Yes, use festival. [15:31] and record the output [15:31] Convert the .txt into raw binary. [15:31] rob0: can you guide me through the procedure [15:31] No [15:32] yes rob0 please spoon feed me C++ [15:32] Action: rob0 gags acidchild with a spoon [15:32] Ewww... isn't that the spoon they used in 2girls 1cup? [15:32] hahaha [15:33] rob0: i crated 1 wav file using text2wave bit its not good in listening when i plays it [15:33] created* [15:33] That just made me gag. [15:33] and you didn't even need a spoon. :P [15:33] lol [15:33] well, it is possible to convert .txt to .wav, it is asci file to binary actually, if .txt is saved not as ascii :) [15:33] Alan_Hicks: Thats what she said. [15:33] :P [15:33] [ in bed ] [15:34] lmao! [15:34] silly pillowtalk [15:34] bnhashmi: if you are in a desparate need,check out this http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php [15:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] agentc0re|work: http://tinyurl.com/ml8nxt [15:34] its not related to festival [15:35] bnhashmi: ^ [15:35] bnhashmi, see, I've never done much with festival, and it's not shipped with Slackware, so this place is not likely to be much help on that. [15:35] .... hrmm... tinyurl...should i, or shouldn't i? [15:35] agentc0re|work: yeah, you can. :) [15:35] lemmewinks has made it out.... [15:35] bnhashmi, you might find flite is easier to use. flite -t "bla bla" -o bla.wav [15:35] lemmewinks lemmewinks crawling up in side [15:35] agentc0re|work: You should. [15:36] heh, last.fm is blocked. let me unblock it. [15:36] dive: thanks [15:37] bnhashmi you could try this also http://misc.blackcore.net/speech.pl [15:38] bnhashmi, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/accessibility/flite/ [15:38] OmegaSis (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:38] bnhashmi, it's a lot simpler than festival but I don't know about using other voices apart from the default [15:39] fire|bird, hi, how goes? [15:39] hey dive, goes great, thanks. you? [15:39] fire|bird, same thanks :-) [15:39] dive: lol thx for the link, is the voice annoying? [15:40] acidchild, not really, it's kind of robotic though [15:40] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:40] acidchild, I did look into using festival but didn't make much sense to me.. [15:42] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] hello world [15:42] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:42] ) [15:42] evening Nigromante [15:44] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:45] agris2 (n=agris@213.226.141.146) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Why is it that that some will list a man page with ls(1)? I understand that means it's part of section one, but what's the point of it? Maybe just an old habit that was necessary to list it that way years ago? Maybe because some man pages can live in multiple sections? [15:46] agentc0re: you're confusing me [15:46] :P [15:46] made sense to me. :) [15:46] agentc0re|work: The latter is correct. [15:46] yes [15:46] s/with ls(1)/as ls(1) [15:46] agentc0re|work: For example, postconf(1) and postconf(5). [15:46] try man printf [15:46] I do it a lot, for one thing, it makes it clear that I'm referring to a man page. Second, it makes it clear WHICH one I mean. [15:47] Perfect example, Alan. [15:47] agentc0re|work well, if i see you correctly, then it is just because as there is man man [15:47] drijen (n=drijen@pool-71-96-8-249.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] drijen (n=drijen@pool-71-96-8-249.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:47] Alan_Hicks: Gotcha. I've read that page before, but never by using the sections. I always just have done it by, man postconf which probably just gets me the whole thing(guessing). [15:48] For me, it's a subtle way of saying RTFM without bruising the fragile feelings of idiots who don't like to see "RTFM". [15:48] agentc0re|work: No, it gets you the first match, in that case, postconf(1). [15:48] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-81-107-196-97.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Alan_Hicks: Ah, so i've been missing out then. Okay, this is good to know. Thank you for clearing that up. [15:48] man 5 postconf [15:48] Section 5 is for configuration files. If ever there's a binary with a configuration file (or man page entry) with the same name, you'll almost never get the man page for the conf file. [15:48] postconf(5) is WAY bigger than postconf(1), FWIW. [15:49] and besides.. question to olders of slack :) why there's how-to and what that other package was... there [15:49] there are such an outdated info... [15:49] agentc0re|work: You mean the "F" series? [15:50] Also, I don't usually recommend / point people to "man 5 postconf", since the HTML version is hyperlinked and much more convenient. [15:50] rob0: Heretic! [15:50] if you want hyperlinks you have "info" :-) [15:50] Alan_Hicks: postconf.5.html# [15:51] No one listen to rob0! [15:51] He symlinks /usr/bin/vi to mc-edit! [15:51] If they want Postfix help, they should. [15:51] All shall bow at the altar of man! [15:51] That didn't come out quite the way I intended it. [15:52] Drinking again? [15:52] rworkman: Actually, yes. :-) [15:52] oh, common postfix help in slackware's how to and help files? [15:52] haha [15:52] ;D [15:52] But only a couple of beers on my lunch break. [15:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [15:52] Alan_Hicks: f series? I just meant that this whole time all i've ever done is 'man whatever'. i've never payed attention to sections, or until now know that they can have multiple sections. I'm sure what i've been doing has been sufficient enough for the most part. [15:52] http://linux.die.net/man/ [15:52] agentc0re|work: Probably, but you should have read the Good Book. Then you'd've known about man page sections. [15:53] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:53] DebiEA (n=e@81.233.227.253) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:53] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:53] Konqueror's man: plugin is very nice too. [15:54] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:54] Beats the crap out of info(1), IMO. [15:54] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-12-248-30.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:54] omg [15:55] rob0: Well, yeah... but that's not saying a whole lot. [15:55] listening to this, i have to get another beer to get just to forget that [15:55] Beating the crap out of info is like beating the crap out of a dead chicken. [15:55] It's easy to do, but you just feel nasty afterward. [15:55] I always tell new users to read: man less, man man, man grep [15:55] rworkman: Or choking a dead chicken. [15:55] But it cooks up nice and tender. [15:56] bad timing. [15:56] Very bad timing! [15:56] lol [15:56] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [15:56] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:56] For the record, I typed that as a reply to rworkman before Alan piped in with his crap. [15:57] info(1) is the cess-pool of UNIX documentation. It's what RMS et al invented one night while masturbating to Monte Python and eating too much hot sauce. I'm still not certain what organ it came out of. [15:57] wow [15:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430602.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:57] agentc0re|work: (1) User Commands ; (2) System Calls; (3) C Library Functions; (4) Devices and Special Files; (5) File Formats and Conventions; (6) Games et. Al.; (7) Miscellanea; (8) System Administration tools and Deamons; all that to facilitate admin's life or for a test on linux like LPI [15:58] Action: Alan_Hicks wonders if he's getting noobfarmed for that. [15:58] slackwared: Yes, i already understood that. I think you've misunderstood my question, but it's been answered. Thanks though. [15:59] uklmman (n=puppy@190.103.65.205) joined ##slackware. [16:00] alguien habla espalol [16:00] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] Nick change: agris2 -> agris [16:01] uklmman: #slackware-es [16:04] dusty__ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] dusty__ (n=dusty@78.86.194.224) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:08] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] Wow things got quiet fast. [16:09] curtisk (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [16:10] indeed they did. [16:10] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-153-36-67.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] where? [16:10] here [16:11] and what exactly is that fast? [16:11] from 14:58 t0 15:07, it was dead silence [16:11] quiet, not quite :) [16:11] a lot of time to get another pack of beer from shop [16:12] just came from bar.. [16:12] hey thrice`, how's it going? [16:12] ona tuesday? :D [16:12] :) [16:12] hi fire|bird; OK, only 1 hour of work left - you? [16:12] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [16:13] thrice:just a few pints :p [16:13] doing excellent, thanks. I had been working on kde4 on the desktop, it was slow and not acting right, so I mv'd .local and .kde and it becaome a lot faster. :) [16:14] nepenthe: alright, can you walk this straight line? |---------------------------| ? :P [16:14] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [16:14] I can try :/ [16:14] lol [16:15] A policeman once asked me to walk a straight line as a sobriety test. [16:15] :D [16:15] were you able to? [16:15] I then tried to explain to him that in the universe there really was no such thing as a straight line. [16:15] hahaha [16:15] lol [16:15] Alan_Hicks: Did he then say, up against the car, hands behind your back? [16:16] onde ta brasil [16:16] portugal [16:16] No. He let me go with a warning. Even that was bullshit, 'cause I hadn't drank anything in days. [16:16] heh, well, better than a ticket or a night in jail. :P [16:16] uklmman: #slackware-br [16:17] damn straight. [16:17] He pulled me over for driving without my headlights turned on at 5 in the morning. [16:17] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:17] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [16:18] Even that was total bullshit, 'cause it was a full moon and there wasn't a cloud in the sky, and I have excellent night vision. [16:18] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [16:19] but others should see you [16:19] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.136) joined ##slackware. [16:20] That was bullshit too, 'cause there wasn't anybody else around. [16:20] Even the policeman spotted me from a quarter mile. [16:20] bu ther could be [16:20] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Well if they had their lights on, there wouldn't have been any problems anyhow, right? [16:21] uklmman (n=puppy@190.103.65.205) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] whatever [16:22] hi [16:22] your buisness [16:22] :-) [16:22] alphad64: hi [16:22] lee555J5 (n=irchon@166.137.7.136) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Alan_Hicks: you never know, the other person that could have come along might not have seen you because they were busy talking on the cell phone and eating breakfast. :P [16:23] He could've been a real prick and given you a ticket [16:23] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-115-183.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] So, you're lucky :) [16:24] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:24] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [16:24] fire|bird: This was before we had cell phones. [16:25] That was... damn.... 14 years ago. [16:25] ah, alright, then that's out. They could have still been eating breakfast. :P [16:25] True. [16:26] reminds me of the saying "You have to drive for the other person, you know whay you're doing." [16:26] lucky? the cop could have been sensable and realised it was 5 AM and that is the time some people are just on their way to work, most bars and taverns close at 2AM and so most drunks are found on the road between 2AM & 3AM, that cop is an asshole [16:27] Pig_Pen: Yeah well, when a teenager is on the road that early cops are always assholes. [16:28] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] haha but it's not lawful to drive without headlights (when it's dark) [16:30] That's what he said. [16:30] That' [16:30] s why a warning was good news [16:30] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [16:30] I AM that cop, Alan_Hicks. Hi. [16:31] :P [16:31] Alan_Hicks: Well, there's the cop, get your revenge, kick him out. :P [16:31] haha [16:31] Buster, I still remember the plate number. [16:32] BR-549? [16:34] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Nick change: omni_school -> omnipotentduo [16:34] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427511.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:35] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.225.164.227) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Ladies and gentlman, Elvis has entered the building! [16:35] Wow, it's Elvis [16:35] good afternoon [16:35] i present the KING [16:35] anyone can help me? [16:36] ElvisPresley: Go towards the light. [16:36] haha [16:36] ElvisPresley: And kick Michael Jackson's ass towards the fire if you see him. [16:36] damn, i'm sure that's gonna be noobfarmed >.> [16:36] i need to install a modem 3g [16:36] Necos: Not if you don't do it. [16:37] heya Necos [16:37] Action: Necos is [16:37] but i don`t know how compile wvstreams [16:37] wamty (n=macret@77.42.138.71) joined ##slackware. [16:37] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] ElvisPresley: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/wvstreams/ [16:37] anybody knows? [16:37] and, http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:37] this is the first time I build a slack pkg from a slack.BUILD script [16:37] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: Client Quit [16:37] and it crashed :( [16:38] wamty: You did something wrong. [16:38] it's SlackBuild, not slack.BUILD [16:38] where did you get it from? [16:38] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) left irc: "leaving" [16:38] quote submitted for approval ^.^ [16:38] \o/ [16:39] ok i saw [16:39] I have to locate a missing pkg [16:39] sm177y (n=sm177y@24-231-140-188.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] lee555J5 (n=irchon@166.137.7.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] wamty: find(1) [16:39] but a downloaded wvstreams with extenion .gz [16:39] extension [16:40] ElvisPresley: Use the link on that page. [16:40] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] ok Alan_Hicks [16:40] thanks [16:40] why is it that when i copy files, my cpu usage maxes out at 100% and top says im using like 95% of my memory but ksysguard only shows 370megs used but also shows the high cpu usage so i know thats right [16:41] top -n 1 then pastebin [16:41] sm177y: How are you copying these files? [16:41] with konqueror [16:41] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-19-160.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] What about using cp? [16:41] but it doesnt matter how i copy em it still does it [16:42] even in dolphin? [16:42] how big are these files? [16:42] big [16:42] lol [16:42] gigs? [16:42] 465gigs [16:42] xD [16:42] naphula (n=zerox112@96.247.3.14) left ##slackware. [16:43] Ok, you fail at life. [16:43] thats pretty damn big! [16:43] that's what she said [16:43] that's not the first time >.> [16:43] fire|bird: That's 'cause I pulled out. [16:43] what may have I done wrong pls? [16:43] hahahaha [16:43] i have a 3ghz quad core tho xD it should not use 100% cpu [16:44] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [16:44] why don't you jsut do it command line it would prolyl be faster and possibly use less cpu [16:44] because it doesnt give an ETA or show the transfer speeds [16:44] ElvisPresley, is it worth going to see your birthplace next time I'm in Tupelo? Also, I've never bothered to visit Graceland, in my gazillion trips through Memphis. Should I? [16:44] use -v [16:44] i thinkt hat works [16:45] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:45] sm177y: That ETA and transfer speed is complete bull shit anyway. [16:45] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.61.254) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Elvis has been dead now for 0x20 years! [16:45] sm177y: It's gonna take longer to copy them with a GUI than just using cp. [16:45] actually it seems pretty accurate to me. besides the eta changing due to fluxuating transfer speed [16:47] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:47] somethings broken [16:47] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:47] I have the files, in the locations ./configure says it cannot find them [16:47] and cp doesnt show transfer speeds [16:47] Any advice? [16:48] sm177y: try midnight comander, use F3 to copy, have the source files on one side highted and destination where you want copied on the other side, = highlight & F3 [16:48] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.123) joined ##slackware. [16:48] why is the speed so important, whether you sit there and watch that fluctuate or not, it's going to get done when it gets done. [16:48] wamty: you need to be in the directory that has the configure file xD [16:48] Alan_Hicks ? [16:49] I'm running the configure line they use maunally [16:49] no! not F3, F5 copys [16:49] works now [16:49] without a speed rate or an eta, theres no way to tell if its even going any faster than my current transfer [16:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430602.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:50] so must be something in the build script thats broke [16:50] tbh, that's doubtful, unless you got it from an unreliable source. chances are you were doing something wrong. [16:50] wamty: No, it's most likely something *you* broke. All those build scripts are tested before they go public. [16:51] Alan_Hicks: how can I assess that? [16:51] does it help if I tell you what script it is? [16:51] Alan_Hicks broke that one. [16:51] What is the script and where'd you get it from? [16:52] slackbuilds.org/repository/Alan_Hicks/broken/ [16:52] official slackware build script for net-snmp [16:52] rob0: Apparently I'm an unsupported Slackware release. [16:52] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:53] haha [16:53] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427511.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] haha [16:53] fire|bird, Alan_Hicks: It's the official slackware build script for net-snmp [16:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427511.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:53] lets see if I pebkac'd the script [16:53] Which is still better than info(1), a (supposedly) supported RMS "release". [16:53] Well, in that case, it's certainly not broken, it's something you did wrong. [16:53] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.225.164.227) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client" [16:54] Ladies and gentleman, Elvis has left the building. [16:54] haha [16:54] Should I pebkac'd the script? [16:54] Alan_Hicks, of course you're unsupported, support yourself! [16:54] damn deadbeat [16:54] But but.... others get by because I support them. Why should I have to support myself too? [16:55] Alan_Hicks: its not a quoting issue [16:55] PGP trash troll delete [16:55] I want to know whats wrong here... could anyone pls help :( [16:56] wamty: You did something wrong. Until you tell us what you did, we can't help. [16:56] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:56] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.33.71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:56] Alan_Hicks: ok sir. just tell me how I can give you more info [16:57] I added one line to configure args [16:57] what line did you add? [16:57] --with-mib-modules="ucd-snmp/lmsensorsMib" [16:57] so...the program being used to copy the files is irrelevant at this point. cp and mc both still max out my cpu usage. whats the deal? [16:57] forgot the '\$' maybe [16:58] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:58] rob0: me? [16:58] wamty: yes, you [16:58] it starts transferring at like 200meg/s and then caps down to 20-40megs....wtf? [16:58] i never had this problem with 12.2 [16:58] That's the line I added: --with-mib-modules="ucd-snmp/lmsensorsMib" [16:58] pebkac [16:59] wamty: pastebin the entire script you're using, including the line you added. [16:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:01] seems I typo'd the optoin [17:01] as configure wants it, as opposed to the way its displayed by an snmpget of the oid that shows the configure options used [17:02] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "br" [17:02] arctanb (n=chatzill@82-44-63-76.cable.ubr02.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:02] firedix (n=firedix@host50.201-252-139.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:03] trying to save wireles configuration, i got this error message from wpa gui: http://pastealacon.com/4169 [17:03] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [17:03] here is the config of wpa supplicant; http://pastealacon.com/4170 [17:03] sm177y (n=sm177y@24-231-140-188.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] hey - I've just installed the lastest version of slackware on my laptop and installed wicd but when I try to connect to an AP it tells me 'connection failed: unable to get IP address'. Any ideas? [17:04] same problem [17:04] i use wpa supplicant to make wicd connect [17:04] does that work? [17:04] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.237.43) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-96.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] gem_cat (n=gem@207.119.1.74) joined ##slackware. [17:04] yes, but impossible to save configuration [17:04] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [17:05] I'll give that a go [17:05] alphad64: what sort of SSID are you connecting to - WPA? [17:05] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] from my home router, personal [17:06] will it connect to open SSIDs? [17:06] WEP [17:06] key [17:07] how come and when exactly do you get that problem [17:07] Mine doesn't connect to anything - it can display a list of SSIDs but when it comes to connecting it gets through authentication etc. but can't actually get an IP address [17:07] that's using wicd [17:08] couse wpa_supplicant.conf if used properly should work for most of drivers [17:08] alienBOB: that last ban, was the best one this year. Thank you, thank you, thank you. [17:09] chopp: ++++ [17:09] even eduroam can be configured :) and if it works with wpa_supplicant, can be copied to wicd conf file, if still wanted [17:09] (I'm using an Intel 4965 card, if that's any help) [17:09] cpu 71 degrees C [17:09] going 79 C [17:09] he'll have time to work on his spelling maybe [17:09] should I start worrying? [17:09] i can connect but i can't save my configuration [17:10] chopp: don't be surprised if he reappears. But ifhedoes, and repeats his old behaviour as Quiznos or PurpleSmurf, the next ban will be permmanent [17:10] alphad64, have you checked file permissions? [17:10] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.45.76) joined ##slackware. [17:10] oh wait a minute [17:10] aha epic success [17:10] _bruno___ (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:10] I've managed to get it to connect by treating my ssid as a hidden one [17:11] alienBOB: yeah he just doesn't take advice well for some reason. [17:11] not ideal, but I'm happy :) [17:11] agris: hw can i check this? [17:11] lol [17:11] chopp: Most assholes are like that. [17:11] ls -l /your/config/file [17:11] for example [17:11] has anyone experienced a terribly slow thunderbird? scrolling, loading messages everything is dragging [17:11] Alan_Hicks: this is true. :) [17:11] Course it is; I said it didn't I/ [17:12] haha [17:12] roliveira: It works great here. [17:12] My word's as good as gold. You take it down to the bank, they'll pay ya for it. [17:12] I tell ya a chicken dips snuff, you look under his wing and you'll find a pack. [17:12] very strange [17:12] this is my wpa supplicant conf: http://pastealacon.com/4170 [17:12] i have rebuilt it from the slackbuild but that doesn`t help either [17:13] *two* beers for lunch, come on, tell it like it really is. ;) [17:13] Was two beers. I still had work to do. [17:13] its a mini itx Via C3 [17:13] And only $20 in cash. :-) [17:13] I'm compiling at the moment [17:13] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Connection timed out [17:14] else it sits around 39-45 C [17:14] any ideas? [17:14] Am I a wimp for drinking honey beer? [17:14] normaly wicd should do all that automatically but why didn't it do that? [17:14] :D [17:14] Nick change: _bruno___ -> _bruno [17:15] agris: ? [17:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Seems like a wimp's beer, but it's soo damn good! [17:16] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] agris: http://pastealacon.com/4171 [17:18] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:19] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:20] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora" [17:20] did anyone suceessfully connect to hidden ap using wicd? [17:21] Nope. [17:21] boomerang (n=eu@unaffiliated/boomerang) joined ##slackware. [17:21] boomerang (n=eu@unaffiliated/boomerang) left ##slackware. [17:21] it fails to connect trying to associate to ap named [17:21] oups we have the same problm [17:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] NaCl, you're dev, right? [17:21] No, he's salt. [17:21] john_dee: try it by using wpa supplicant [17:21] alphad64 / john_dee: 1.6.2.2 fixes the problem [17:21] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Alan_Hicks: clearly. :P [17:22] :) [17:22] wicd 1.6.2.2? [17:22] Yeah. [17:22] I don't think there are any unofficial packages yet. [17:22] s/un// [17:22] alphad64, supplicant works like a charm. tho, a nice gui program would be welcome :\ [17:23] wicd is relay good, i enjoy using it.. [17:23] s/relay/really [17:23] slackware extras only has 1.6.2.1. installed it couple of hours ago\ [17:24] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:24] john_dee / alphad64: if you pull 1.6.2.2 from sourceforge, that one should work [17:25] You can use the slackbuild in extra/source/wicd, just replace .txz with whatever extension is on the source tarball you download [17:25] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.136) left irc: "Leaving." [17:26] I had to switch to xsupplicant [17:26] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521d82.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:26] couldn't get associated with a peap network that didn't have a certificate with wicd/wpa_supplicant [17:26] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.45.76) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] NaCl, tnx. will try that [17:27] me too [17:27] john_dee: Yes, of course. (12.2, though. You're probably asking about 13) [17:28] mr_patterson, yep, slack64 here :D [17:28] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [17:28] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] Nick change: kbrd -> WebDragon [17:29] Action: john_dee is happy because his slack finally suspends and hibernates with no tuning reqired [17:30] caio (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: "leaving" [17:31] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.45.76) joined ##slackware. [17:33] I'd be happy if Dolphin opened right when I clicked on the file browser instead of being slightly delayed. [17:33] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] It's annoying [17:34] mr_patterson: Do you have nepomuk disabled? That provides a nice speed improvement (nepomuk being the desktop search stuff) [17:35] no md5 for tarballs... :`\ [17:35] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-115-183.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:36] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.123) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:39] ngworekara: I think that that field is optional. [17:39] fire|bird: I think so. I remember disabling all that indexing/searching/whatever stuff [17:42] I had a problem with nepomuk eating up cpu cycles...so I turned it off [17:42] Wicd is being completely restructured in the next version, should be easier to use. [17:42] I tried it with a million different options [17:42] saymoo (n=saymoo@unaffiliated/saymoo) joined ##slackware. [17:43] kept getting the same error about ssl authentication [17:43] xsupplicant got it no problem [17:43] gem_cat (n=gem@207.119.1.74) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [17:45] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [17:47] snearch (n=olaf@92.116.64.166) joined ##slackware. [17:47] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [17:47] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: Client Quit [17:48] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [17:49] saymoo (n=saymoo@unaffiliated/saymoo) left irc: "Ik ga weg" [17:49] mr_patterson: ok. I know what you mean with that, there is quite a delay. I'm using xfce atm and when you click thunar, it's just instant, right there. [17:49] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.54) joined ##slackware. [17:49] Anyone here have a slackbuild for emacs-23? [17:49] I wish dolphin was that quick. [17:51] wamty (n=macret@77.42.138.71) left ##slackware. [17:52] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [17:52] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [17:53] greetings NyteOwl [17:54] hiya, how gos it? [17:54] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7263.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:54] er goes [17:54] diven (n=diven@64.79.213.171) left irc: "<3" [17:54] goes great here, yourself? [17:54] goes [17:54] long day [17:54] tired, sore back but nice hot espresso so ..:) [17:54] :) [17:55] hi everybody ! [17:55] hi [17:55] i would like to rename all file ending with MP3 to mp3, here is the beginning, how can i continue that ? ..... --> find -name '*MP3' -exec mv -f '{}' ????? [17:56] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] snearch (n=olaf@92.116.64.166) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:56] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] yht (n=yht@114.121.156.239) joined ##slackware. [17:57] slacknode (n=Slacknod@32.149.159.183) joined ##slackware. [17:57] fire|bird: So, is nepomuk the culprit? [17:57] mr_patterson: Well, dolphin still has a delay, but disabling nepomuk helped alot here. [17:58] Nick change: G`Schroedinger -> g4tt0 [17:58] fire|bird: Oh, okay. [17:58] mr_patterson: it's probably because dolphine has more features takes more to load [17:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] alphad64_ (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [17:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:58] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [17:58] fire|bird deco, I wonder if you can preload several instances of Dolphin... [17:59] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.174.123.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:59] mr_patterson: I have been trying to figure out a way to speed that up myself, it's annoying. [17:59] mr_patterson: I'm not sure about dolphin, you can do that with konqueror. [17:59] good night world [17:59] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host197-69-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [18:00] mr_patterson: when dophine wasn't the default file manager in kde 3.5 it was mighty fast but it's was really barebones compared to what it is now [18:00] fire|bird: Yeah, which is one big reason why I really liked Konqueror. [18:00] it was* [18:00] deco: Yeah. [18:00] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.45.76) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:01] fire|bird: Are you in KDE now? [18:01] deco: The dolphin you could use in 3.5.x was REALLY speedy. [18:01] fire|bird: yup ^^ [18:01] mr_patterson: On my laptop, yeah. I'm on xfce on my desktop atm/ [18:01] deco: too bad it got so slow [18:02] fire|bird: well imo everything got slow in kde4 :P [18:02] fire|bird: Ok. I wonder if Konq is fast in 4.2. Can't try it till I get home. [18:02] deco: overall, kde4 got faster here. :P [18:02] mr_patterson: you can use konqueror as your file manager if you want [18:02] mr_patterson: yes, it is. I've used konq on 4.2.4 and now on 4.3.0 and 4.3.1 [18:03] solution: do not install kde/qt4 and build qt338 & kde-3.5.10 in your new 13 install [18:03] mr_patterson: and, in my experience, if you preload konq, it loads instantly. [18:03] deco fire|bird : I've grown kinda fond of Dolphin's look. :P [18:03] Having used kde4 now, I would no way go back to 3.5.x here. :P [18:03] Pig_Pen: We move forward, not backward. [18:03] mr_patterson: yeah, I know what you mean. :) [18:03] mr_patterson: hehe yeah [18:03] firedix (n=firedix@host50.201-252-139.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:04] i move forward too, i just take smaller & slower steps, remember the race between tortise & hair [18:04] WHOA, I just had changed to rl4 for my laptop boot, the login screen for 4.3.1 is REALLY nice, I don't have that on my desktop. [18:04] slacknode (n=Slacknod@32.149.159.183) left irc: [18:04] well, really nice imo [18:04] post a screenshot fire|bird [18:05] Pig_Pen: The moral of that story is: If both were diligent, the rabbit would win every time. [18:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:05] hrmmm [18:05] Pig_Pen: will do if I can. How can I get an ss of the login window? [18:05] digital camera? [18:06] Pig_Pen: sure :) [18:06] sec [18:06] Action: deco hates how you can't have differen't wallpapers now :( [18:06] mr_patterson: dolphin works better on my laptop. My laptop is 64bit though. [18:06] deco: in what? [18:07] 3.5.10 allowed different wallpapers for each virtual desktop [18:07] fire|bird: kde 4.2.4 [18:07] fire|bird: The lag I experience is in 64 [18:07] Pig_Pen: not ok kde4 [18:07] on* [18:07] deco: you mean different wallpapers per workspace? [18:07] mr_patterson: haha [18:07] fire|bird: yep [18:07] deco: I'm POSITIVE you can, sec. [18:07] fire|bird: you can't i have searched [18:07] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] jhngrmssund0wner [18:08] damn [18:08] hmmm [18:08] now I have to change it again [18:08] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.61.254) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Necos: What's all this hmmm'ing about? :P [18:09] mayrllr (n=na@unaffiliated/mayrllr) joined ##slackware. [18:10] comme on! somebody still gotta be using kde-3.5.10 [18:10] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-zatcbylipelgnlld) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [18:10] Pig_Pen: i wish i did :( [18:10] hey, i was wondering how up to date applications are on slackware [18:10] you can build it in a couple of hours on 13 [18:10] mainly development tools (C/C++ and the IDE eclipse) [18:10] Pig_Pen: debian users are still using it :P [18:10] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: No route to host [18:10] :D [18:10] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-87-25.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:10] incognitus (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [18:11] thats it! i am switching to debian! [18:11] hi all, happy new slack [18:11] not [18:11] deco: hahaha [18:11] Pig_Pen: but they are going to switch on the new release [18:11] i would rather be eaten by dragons than quit using Slackware [18:11] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [18:11] my gosh you guys, is kde4 THAT bad in your opinions? :P [18:11] mayrllr: Eclipse is not shipped with any Slackware version. [18:12] ahh [18:12] weeee eclipse :P [18:12] i think kde-4.x needs more work [18:12] Pig_Pen: any certain things? [18:12] Pig_Pen: they should juse go back to 3.5 and add a new theme :P [18:12] GNOME forever! [18:12] [18:12] fire|bird: yes ;) [18:12] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [18:12] fire|bird: the animation! :P [18:12] NyteOwl: OMG [18:12] I'm gonna switch to wmii or dwm as soon as I get over the fear [18:13] deco: Oh lord, not THAT again. [18:13] :P [18:13] i hope they are working on fixing bugs in kde-4.x (forget the eye candy for a while and just work on fixing bugs) [18:13] lol :P [18:13] what bugs? I want specifics. :P [18:13] i am wondering may i upgrade only part of the system to 13? [18:13] 4.3.3 version for gcc and gcc-g++ in 13.0 [18:13] :) [18:13] D-r_Flower: no [18:13] D-r_Flower: That's not a good idea. [18:13] I prefer GNOME. I find KDE irritating [18:14] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [18:14] so [18:14] D-r_Flower: just do a clean install [18:14] GNOME, AHHHHHHHHHH [18:14] may i upgrade only package utilities [18:14] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-250-183.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] < BP{k}> it makes you sound a bit like a twat if you confuse a tweet for a twit. [18:14] hahaha [18:14] to use the enw txz format? [18:14] D-r_Flower: just do a clean install [18:14] slackwared: *bows* ;) [18:15] i dont want to upgrade all, [18:15] D-r_Flower: are you trying to combine 12.2/13.0 packages? [18:15] BP{k}: rofle [18:15] D-r_Flower: then stick to have you have [18:15] i use old mashine and the new kde is not appropriate for me [18:15] what you have* [18:15] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.174.123.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] incognitus (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] D-r_Flower: what are the specs of your pc ? [18:16] cpu 550 [18:16] i have a post in LQ [18:16] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-13-and-old-mashine-751956/ [18:17] and this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/partially-upgrade-to-slackware-13-753576/ [18:17] D-r_Flower: kde 4 is not for you [18:17] pcallycat (n=dad@97-121-8-82.bois.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] yes, i know, but i like kde and i dont think to work with xfce [18:17] D-r_Flower: than don't upgrade to 13 [18:18] i didnt [18:18] but read the second post [18:18] turn off some of the junk like animations etc [18:18] D-r_Flower: let me put it this way.... [18:18] i have them turned off now with 3.5.10 :) [18:18] Action: NyteOwl rememebrs when an old computer was 5+ years old. Now it's less than 6 months [18:18] heh [18:18] *IF* you upgrade partially ... if it breaks you get to fix it your self and keep the pieces. [18:18] pcallycat (n=dad@97-121-8-82.bois.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] NyteOwl: The animations are disabled by default anyway. :) [18:19] that was just an example :p [18:19] BP{k}: ??? [18:19] fire|bird: ever used windows 3.1 ? [18:19] D-r_Flower: partial upgrades are not recommended and most likely to break stuff. [18:19] NyteOwl: i have disabled all effects of kde [18:20] i know this [18:20] deco: OH LORD. :P If I did, then I'd know the TRUE meaning of NO animations. :P [18:20] but there r some packages like firefox for example [18:20] fire|bird: lol :P [18:20] so can i upgrade only package utilities? [18:21] .... [18:21] noobfarm and slackwaregallery are down :( [18:21] you start by reading slackbook. [18:21] and wel, if i upgrade glibs, does i need to use the kernel header form the release? [18:21] Whoa, whomever this is, they made dolphin look very minimalistic: http://yagami.deviantart.com/art/screenshot-kde-4-3-0-131950165 [18:21] I wonder if that'd speed it up [18:21] i have readed slackbook, what u mean? [18:22] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Pig_Pen: trying to take a picture of that login screen isn't working out well, I'm getting a ton of lines through it, etc. :P [18:23] ok, dont worry about it [18:23] Action: NyteOwl would love to rip the cones out of arsehole's auto woofers about now [18:23] idiots [18:23] that sounds painful. [18:24] D-r_Flower: just so I understand . .why would you want to part upgrade? [18:24] is it too loud or they are playing spice girls? [18:24] because kde4 is not for him. :P [18:24] i wrote it [18:24] to fscking loud - and damn seni-rqap hip hop [18:24] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/partially-upgrade-to-slackware-13-753576/ [18:24] er semi-rap [18:24] i hate those super loud bass in car stereos, what those kids dont realise is that could cause hearing difficulties [18:25] Pig_Pen: they make my chest hurt :( [18:25] Pig_Pen: yeah, I am surprised that not everyone of those who have that in their cars aren't deaf. [18:25] you can get decent bass without it being heard half the city away [18:25] NyteOwl: just put a sub below your seat and enjoy the ride. :P [18:26] when people pull up next to me at intersections with those loud stereos i wish i had a fragmentation hand grenade to toss in their window just as i pull away when the light turns green [18:26] fire|bird: I would but she's out of town at the moment :p [18:26] hahahahahaha [18:26] lol [18:27] Pig_Pen: There's a guy in my neighborhood that drives around with that loud crap, it gets annoying. He's the neighbor's bf I think. [18:27] D-r_Flower: what is wrong with the seamonkey from 12.2? [18:27] fire|bird: what kind of music ?:P [18:27] fire|bird: wire his woofers to the starter [18:27] and, I'm guessing, the system he has costs more than the crappy car it's in. [18:27] it was a primer, nothing is wrong [18:28] NyteOwl: haha [18:28] <[OpenSys]> this not copy files, "scp -v -r root@host.tld:/etc/* ." why ? [18:28] alphad64_ (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:28] deco: The bass is so loud it drowns out everything else, I can't tell. :P [18:28] fire|bird: that's really bad :P [18:28] deco: for sure. [18:28] fire|bird: yes, that's what this is liek ehre. ust amorphours noise [18:29] D-r_Flower: primer? what explosives or paint? [18:29] Action: NyteOwl apologizes fr his typing this evening [18:29] NyteOwl: yeah, it's aweful. I like a little bass, but not when it's to the point you can't hear the actual music, and instead just hear "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM" :P [18:29] well, may be u r right [18:30] D-r_Flower: install a ap d l n x, and xap, and be happy. Run fluxbox, xfce..... [18:30] fire|bird: im going to give xfce another try :P [18:30] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:30] chopp: thanks but i like kde, i want to use it [18:30] Action: fire|bird changes chopp's pc to ONLY login to kde4. hehe :) [18:30] Action: fire|bird installs kde4 first [18:31] and about pkg utils, i want to be able to use th enew file format [18:31] this is th emain [18:31] good luck with that one. :) [18:31] D-r_Flower: why? [18:31] D-r_Flower: Why do you need the new format? [18:31] not only seamonkey, there is openoffice for example [18:31] just because it's new? that's not a good reason. [18:31] D-r_Flower: seriously, if you have as you said in your post, that much unpackaged software. Stick with 12.2. It is still maintained. You only setting yourself up for an epic amount of fail. [18:32] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:32] just if i find third party packages only in txz [18:32] plus if people find out you have a partial install, help will probably less than fortcoming in general. [18:32] time to relax a bit - the best interview ever : http://www.musicfanclubs.org/oasis/brazil.html [18:32] D-r_Flower: then compile xztools yourself, then you can just xz -d the package, gzip it and all should be well [18:32] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [18:33] D-r_Flower: With third party packages in txz, you can generally assume they are build on systems >= 13.0 [18:33] anyone uses openvpn here? [18:33] i have and do this, just is is ... uncomfortably [18:34] I'm having a few problems with my -up script to push the dns info [18:34] if anyone has a working one, I'll appreciate it [18:34] BP{k}: i told, i f i find the next release of openoffice only in txz? i mean binary distributed software [18:34] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] D-r_Flower: you mean say .. on linuxpackages.net? [18:35] no, i dont use them, but there are other sites [18:35] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:35] Action: deco thinkgs xfce's terminal fonts are huge [18:36] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [18:38] D-r_Flower: who told you? [18:38] what? [18:38] http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/25/128957227338733902.jpg lmao! trekies with pets [18:39] D-r_Flower: i told, i f i find the next release of openoffice only in txz? <-- sorry, I can't only work on a best guestimate based on that sentence [18:40] well, u understend what i meaned [18:40] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:40] D-r_Flower: uhm, no I did not. [18:40] deco: you can change that. [18:40] i need to be able to install txz packages [18:40] fire|bird: i know just found it funny :P [18:40] alphad64, any success with wicd? [18:40] why do you NEED to. There's still tgz around. [18:41] D-r_Flower: here's an idea... [18:41] deco: :P, I always thought that xfce terminal's fonts were really nice. [18:41] D-r_Flower: do what the fuck you want .. if you break, don't come crying to us. [18:41] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [18:41] fire|bird: the fonts but not the size :P [18:41] get the source and slackbuild of xz and build it (if you need to backport it to an older slackware release) [18:41] s|break|breat it| [18:42] deco: Hmm, they aren't here. :P [18:42] Pig_Pen: he already said he had done that but it was "inconvenient" for him. [18:42] D-r_Flower: stick with what you use and if you want 13 get a new pc easy as that [18:42] BP{k}: i respect u, why u speak this [18:42] fire|bird: oh lucky me :P [18:42] deco: hahaha, I guess so [18:42] and i am here to ask before not to cry after [18:43] he might to also build/install the new pkgtool [18:43] Guest4271 (n=mike@78.147.143.224) joined ##slackware. [18:43] D-r_Flower: uhmm because what you are trying to achieve is retarded? [18:43] but if you ask me i would say either stick with 12.2 and forget 13 or install 13 and forget the old stuff [18:43] D-r_Flower: because after 30 minutes of trying to get through to you, that partial upgrades are NOT supported NOR recommended, you simply don't seem to get the point. [18:44] Elektro (n=Elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:44] lol. i guess not [18:44] NaCl, ping? [18:45] fire|bird: what pdf reader do you use when using xfce ? [18:45] i learnet it years ago, and i just ask why can't i upgrade pkgtool [18:45] eh? [18:45] and dont answer to me, i got the point [18:45] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:45] NaCl, nop. 1.6.2.2 does the same. and unlike 2.1 it never shows my ap name :) [18:45] thank u for attention [18:46] deco: epdfviewer and adobe acrobat [18:46] john_dee: you restarted wicd, right? [18:46] fire|bird: ok :) [18:46] deco: evince. [18:47] BP{k}: i have thinking of building that :) [18:47] i was * [18:47] deco: it's good :) [18:47] NaCl, iwconfig shows that it's trying to associate to . i even tried editing config in /var/lib but it overwrites it %) [18:47] NaCl, umm..yes :] [18:47] BP{k}: yeah , okular was a bit overkill :P [18:48] okular doesn't let me manually duplex pages. >_< [18:48] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [18:48] and now he left. back to your regularly scheduled channel convo. :) [18:49] john_dee: ask in #wicd. [18:49] \o/ [18:49] o// [18:49] \\o [18:49] haha [18:49] \o/ [18:49] john_dee: I can't think of a solution offhand [18:49] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [18:49] hip hip horray, hip hip horray [18:49] /o\ [18:50] NaCl, well. will try that as soon as official package appears. wiped it for now. back to my magic shell script :D [18:50] Ok. [18:50] _\o/_ <---cheerleader doing the splits. :D [18:50] hahahhaha [18:50] john_dee: feel free to ask in #wicd if you want [18:51] john_dee: the guy who fixed it for 1.6.2.2 is in there [18:51] o= zomie walking with arms outstretched [18:51] zombie* [18:51] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.13) joined ##slackware. [18:51] you figure it out ... /\8/\ [18:52] a spider? [18:52] _ /\8/\_ [18:52] NyteOwl: perv! [18:52] a spider doing the splits? [18:52] NaCl, why not. thanks [18:53] (_|_) (_\_) (_|_) (_/_) (_|_) [18:53] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] that someone wiggling their butt ? [18:54] give the man a cigar [18:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.13) left irc: Client Quit [18:54] :O [18:54] or at least a carrot [18:54] :) [18:54]  [18:54] NyteOwl: :D [18:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.13) joined ##slackware. [18:55] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] or leaning over to fart [18:58] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: No route to host [18:58] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "What the hell?" [19:00] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:02] chopp: Is that wheelchair electric? :P [19:02] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:05] fire|bird: nope, it has an 74cu. 883 sportster v-twin :P [19:05] haha [19:07] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Guest4271 (n=mike@78.147.143.224) left irc: "Leaving" [19:10] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [19:11] korg815` (n=user@bas8-london14-1279732182.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:12] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [19:13] hi I installed php5.3 from source but can not find the php shared object file libphp5.so [19:13] does anyone know where it ends up? [19:14] cadmium: locate libphp5.so [19:14] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] arctanb (n=chatzill@82-44-63-76.cable.ubr02.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]" [19:14] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [19:15] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] Could be in /usr/local/lib [19:16] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:16] no where to be located or found [19:16] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:16] phal (n=phal@85-125-45-27.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] cadmium: update the database [19:16] i only used one compile option for --mcrypt [19:16] i did.. [19:17] doesn't seem to exist within the compile dir either prior to install [19:17] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:17] maybee i'm missing an option to produce the shared object ? [19:17] cadmium: /usr/lib64/httpd/modules/libphp5.so [19:18] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] nay good sir... [19:18] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] cadmium: have you ever used the updatedb command to update your slocate database so the locate command will work? [19:19] nullify (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] mfillpot: you tried that already [19:19] milfpot already answered that question [19:19] he tried* [19:20] if urchlay were here he would know ! --attempting to send psychic messages to urchlay [19:21] i'm just waiting for someone to tell me to use the package [19:21] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] cadmium: use the package.... lol j/k *starts back-reading* [19:22] cadmium: Might have done it but did you updatedb before you tried locate? [19:22] i issues updatedb before and after make install [19:22] cadmium: did you install the app from source or did you modify the php slackbuild script to build an installation package? [19:22] issued* [19:23] humm interesting. [19:23] is it possible to stream video through ssh? [19:23] milfpot from source hence used make install.. i downloaded php5.3 tar.gz [19:23] Reticenti: Yes it is [19:24] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.132.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Reticentie i stream audio through ssh somtimes but it kinda breaks up somtimes [19:24] even though i have gig network cards [19:24] I stream music from Home > Work over SSH. [19:24] what program would you reccomend for watching the streamed video? [19:24] lf4 you never get jitteryness ? [19:24] cadmium: Nope [19:24] i use mpg321 | ssh [19:25] is it possible to do it with vlc? [19:25] actually i cat the file and pipe to ssh then pipe that to mpg321 on the server which i listen on [19:25] Reticenti: Humm.. it should be or you can just stream the video files themselves and then play them localized. [19:26] Reticenti if you don't need encryption you could also use netcat [19:26] what do you mean by that lf4 ? [19:26] what's netcat? [19:26] and i dont need encryption, it's jsut a movie :P [19:27] man netcat :) [19:27] :) [19:27] Reticenti: If you don't need encryption why use ssh then? [19:27] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Connection timed out [19:27] Reticenti you wouldn't want someone to intercept your movie though... [19:28] true, cadmium , they might change the movie to make han shoot first :3 [19:28] cadmium: what options did you pass to php when you compiled it? [19:28] hehe [19:28] ./configure --with-mcrypt=/usr/local/bin [19:28] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.206.236.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] I guess i shouldn't have done this on a production server hehe [19:31] cadmium: take a look at the slackware 13.0 build script, you may be missing specific files because you were missing specific config flags, this build looks like it was a pain to figure out. ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/n/php/php.SlackBuild [19:31] :o noobfarm is down [19:31] milfpot i'm not using slack13 but ok [19:31] cadmium: what version are you using? [19:32] 12.2 i think [19:32] mayhaps: --with-pgsql=shared [19:33] cadmium: the script at ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/n/php/php.SlackBuild was for 12..2, you may have to cross reference with the 13.0 script to tying in any app options for the new version of php. [19:33] shit.. i just want mcrypt [19:33] mabyee i should use the 12.2 package and alter the package file to have the option [19:33] ? [19:33] the slackbuild file, yes [19:33] i don't know much about packages cause i'm lame like that [19:33] that's what I'd do [19:34] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:34] --enable-shared=yes [19:34] hangs head and trods towards package [19:34] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] We know that the slackbuild work, and in a safe manner. start working to modify a slackbuild script to build the app to your needs. [19:35] cool [19:35] diven_ (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] how do i verify my slack version? [19:35] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:35] cat /etc/slackware-version [19:35] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:36] 12.0 yikes [19:36] nullify_ (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:36] cadmium: If i were you and wanted the mcrupt I would see if the 13.0 build will work (with the built version) on 12.2, it will save alot of effort. [19:36] honestly, the slackbuild for php probably hasn't changed that much (except for adding 64-bit suppoty in 13.0) [19:37] am assuming you don't actually want to upgrade your 12.0 install to 12.2 or 13.0 [19:37] no its a production server to customized to upgrade .. plus its production and currently down due to my lameness [19:38] how do i mount the 12.0 dvd iso to get the source out? [19:38] try using the 13.0 slackbuild for php, with your added mcrypt option. It *probably* works fine [19:38] cadmium: all of the necessary files for a SB package off of the 13.0 build are in ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/n/php/, if you want it from another version you only need to change the version number in the url. [19:38] milfpot cool.. i was gonna get it from my iso but don't know how to mount and iso [19:38] cadmium: mount -o loop Slackdvd.iso /mnt/cdrom [19:38] u know ? [19:38] mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/whatever [19:38] thanks [19:39] or whatter the iso name is and were you want to mount it [19:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:40] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:40] a word of caution about PHP: it's got a notoriously bad security record. You probably need to check the patches/ directory on the FTP server, make sure you're using the latest patched version for whichever slack version you use [19:42] good point UrchLap [19:42] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:43] Nick change: lf4 -> NotWorthy [19:43] cadmium: as an extra point about UrchLap's recommendation, make sure to keep a copy of the build so you can just add the lines for the patches and repackage php each time a patch is issued [19:43] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [19:43] Nick change: NotWorthy -> lf4 [19:44] so a build is just a script to use with the source right for slack installation and it registers the install with the package manager? [19:44] eh, it creates a .tgz package [19:44] ohh [19:44] you install that via installpkg, and you can later remove it with removepkg [19:44] nice [19:45] cadmium: a slackbuild is a script that compiles the binaries, adds the patches and whatever other customizations, then drops it into a tarbal that is registered with the package manager to ease upgrade and removals [19:45] and you could e.g. build the package on a fast machine, copy it to your old slow machine, install it there (assuming they're running the same slack version) [19:45] gapinski (n=gapinski@adsl-99-135-196-131.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] I'd recommend, if you're going to install custom packages, add your initials to the VERSION variable (or TAG, if the script has that) [19:46] seems smooth and simple [19:46] there is a good reason why we use the slackbuild scripts and package manager is keeps things clean and organized [19:46] I see [19:46] that way, if you ever forget which packages are custom, you can e.g. "ls /var/adm/packages/*abc*" (assuming your initials are "abc") [19:47] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.85.169.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:47] Action: deco wishes he could make a slackbuild script [19:47] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable234.10-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:47] plus using a pre-built script as a base eliminates alot of work [19:47] righto [19:48] diven_ (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [19:48] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:48] deco: eh, you can. Helps to learn bash programming, then look at the slackbuild scripts from the source/ dir on the slack DVD [19:48] the package system for slackware was a volkerding invention? [19:48] yah [19:48] this channel doesn't reflect my distro but it's helped me before so I here come again: I get sudo: unable to execute ./st: Permission denied on a file that's chmod 777, what gives ?! [19:48] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:49] Mean_Admin: what file are you trying to access? [19:50] Mean_Admin: what are the permissions on the directory where that file is? Is the filesystem mounted with the "noexec" option? Is "st" a shell (or whatever) script, and if so, do you have execute permission on the interpreter? [19:50] UrchLap: yeah that was it ! noexe in fstab I had totally forgot I put that there :) [19:50] thanks [19:51] that'll do it all right [19:51] thanks for ye attention champs [19:51] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:51] UrchLap: yeah.. im just starting to learn programming :P [19:51] <[OpenSys]> is good ideia to put in in /tmp dir [19:51] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:51] <[OpenSys]> :) [19:51] all hail Urhclap! [19:52] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] too bad there's no separate "execution not allowed on filesystem" error (there's a "read-only filesystem" error that you'll see if you try to write to a r/o mounted fs) [19:52] deco: jump into the slackbuilds you can learn alot, especially if they are rejected by slackbuilds.org [19:52] mfillpot: will do :) [19:52] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] Yeah i'm sure the people there will enjoy a bunch of shittily designed submissions :P [19:53] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-72.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:53] I had actually put that noexec for security reasons, and now paranoia comes back to trip me over [19:53] as always try your best and ask for help in the slackbuilds channel before submitting an item [19:53] mostly they're pretty cool, if they reject your submission they'll explain why [19:54] here's a neat challenge for you black belt programmers, write a program such that its output is exactly the same as its sourcecode (pick your language) [19:54] a quine? [19:54] mancha can the exe access the source? [19:54] or does it have to rebuild the source? [19:54] UrchLap: mfillpot thanks :) [19:55] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [19:55] deco: I have helped a couple people clean up their builds prior to submission, so that is proof that the community will help to refine your app builds [19:55] cadmium, the only restriction is the one i mentioned [19:55] then its easy [19:56] Nick change: yht -> Yudha_HT [19:56] actually I think the classic quine challenge doesn't allow the program to read the source from an external file [19:57] it should also not allow the source to be embeded in the exec file as a text string cause the point would be to dissasemble the code right ? [19:58] nah, disassembly isn't required (or even useful) [19:58] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:58] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] I'm out to fix a winblows box, hopefully I will be able to get back online tonight [19:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:59] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:02] Nova on PBS = a show about super volcanos [20:02] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:03] There is a legend that Nikola Tesla and Galvani built a UFO and moved to some volcano's in Brazill where they built a super advanced underground civilization... [20:04] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [20:04] well i'm in ./source/n/php [20:05] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [20:07] hey if I wanna put the source on my system from the slackware cd whats the best way to coppy it ? [20:07] cp ? [20:08] just cp -R ? [20:08] man cp [20:08] i mean should i copy source from the iso to /source on my system ? [20:09] our does the source dir belong somewhere else technically on a slack system ? [20:09] /usr/src comes to mind, but I doubt there's anything mandating that sources go there [20:09] I'd probably use /usr/local/src if I were going to do that, but it doesn't really matter [20:10] why do you need the sources anyway? [20:10] Kappa so i don't have to pull it off the cd every time? [20:10] everytime you do what? [20:11] everytime i modify a slackbuild or need to access the source [20:11] just asking... I've been using slack since #4 and if I needed the source a handful of time it was too much [20:12] Kappa kinda like on bsd you install ports [20:12] source can go wherever you want. I have a ~urchlay/slackbuilds [20:12] and you always can access modify compile [20:13] never had to change nothing on the core [20:13] ... and that's why I like slack [20:13] i'm still after an rss reader recommendation. my ideal, a windowless blob on my desktop that scrolls headlines tickertape style [20:14] CHECKSUMS.md5 CHECKSUMS.md5.asc FILE_LIST MANIFEST.bz2 README.TXT a/ ap/ d/ e/ f/ installer/ k/ kde/ kdei/ l/ n/ t/ tcl/ x/ xap/ y/ [20:14] the directory that contains this stuff [20:14] ack! [20:14] sorry.. what is this /source directory refered to technically ? [20:14] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.206.236.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] huh? [20:14] mancha might be fun to make your own.. [20:15] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [20:18] cadmium: what you mean .. it's called the source directory. [20:19] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [20:19] mancha, can't conky do that? [20:19] yeah the source directory [20:19] and the layout with all the letters which seems mystical and arbitrary :) [20:20] Urchlay was explaining what the letters meant one time [20:21] the source directory contains dragons [20:21] dragons!? [20:21] hipto, itmight...if it does i might be able to get that part of the code out [20:21] yes, it is advisable not to go into the source directory [20:21] ohh :) [20:21] unless you want to get eaten by a dragon [20:22] Yudha_HT (n=yht@114.121.156.239) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:22] i'm in the mood for such a quest [20:22] cadmium, go read the intro docs on slackware.com this is mentioend, also the source tree has readmes that explain the division [20:23] there's also a slackbook which threatens to produce a new edition which probably describes the layout [20:23] i tried to run the php slackbuild [20:23] i got checking for U8T_CANONICAL... no [20:23] configure: error: utf8_mime2text() has new signature, but U8T_CANONICAL is missing. This should not happen. Check config.log for additional information. [20:23] Channel flood from cadmium -- kicking [20:23] make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. [20:23] cadmium kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:23] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [20:24] cadmium: why are you running the php slackbuild? [20:24] ace because i need mcrypt in my php [20:24] do you need the imap extention? [20:25] --with-mcrypt=/usr/local/bin so I added this to the slackbuild [20:25] extension* [20:25] cadmium: do you have mcrypt installed? [20:25] yes [20:25] i have libmcrypt and mcrypt installed [20:25] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] just now need php to have mcrtyp support [20:28] checking for U8T_CANONICAL... no [20:28] take out imap support [20:28] this line seems to bail it [20:28] mancha yeah i do need imap support sorry [20:28] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:28] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.22) joined ##slackware. [20:28] no need to be sorry, this is causing your problem. so either a) take it out or b) fix it [20:29] fix it .. so U8T_CANONICAL needs to be yes :) [20:29] it seems you are a bit out of your league though, you might want to not delve into compiling things [20:29] not really an option... [20:29] why would /source/n/php not have a valid slackbuild [20:30] do you have alpine installed? if not, you'll need the source [20:30] let me google alpine [20:31] I told you there were dragons in /source [20:32] come on... :) [20:32] no one ever believe me [20:32] or just install the pkg I guess.. that should give you the c-client.a for the imap portion of php [20:33] oh i though i had to build the package using the slackbuild script [20:33] alpine.. [20:33] besides i don't know where to find a pre-built package that has mcrypt [20:33] ls /var/log/packages/alpine* [20:33] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Success [20:34] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [20:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [20:34] no such alpine [20:34] so install the alpine package [20:34] that should fix your imap problem [20:35] Anyone try pidgin-vv in 2.6.2 or are we all sick of it? [20:36] is that the voice-capable one? did you ever get the build ironed out? [20:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Yudha_HT (n=yht@114.121.156.239) joined ##slackware. [20:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] I am liking Virtual Box a lot [20:39] it's working just how I needed it to :) [20:40] :) [20:40] VirtualBox ftw [20:41] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-235.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] now I can working on my ring 0 connection hook [20:42] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.22) left irc: "leaving" [20:42] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:43] whats a ring 0 connection hook? [20:44] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.22) joined ##slackware. [20:44] windows kernel access, that will allow me to redirect a connection with out the software knowing it's being redirected. [20:44] andli_ (n=sbtr@c-b7d0e555.027-95-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:44] andli (n=sbtr@c-b7d0e555.027-95-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:46] interesting.. you have a chance to operate on the packet and then it return it to the kernel ? [20:47] mfillpot (n=tommy@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] it would just allow me to access the data/connection before it would get to anything else. [20:47] instead of hooking ws2_32.dll::connect() [20:47] I just have to say this again, I really hate windows [20:47] cadmium: that fix your error? [20:48] no i'm looking at upgrading imap ? [20:50] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:50] gapinski (n=gapinski@adsl-99-135-196-131.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:51] how do you plan on doing that? [20:52] http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/archive/index.php/t-10351166.html [20:52] mabyee? [20:52] gm145 (i=d8798da2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ihzdgvqxzyfvxnwa) joined ##slackware. [20:53] why not just install the alpine package since imap hasn't been updated since 2007? [20:54] meh, 2008 [20:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] time to make diiner [20:54] i could not find any information on alpine [20:55] ... it's a package that is installed when you do a full install [20:55] thusly, its on your CD/DVD [20:55] i did a full install hmm [20:55] i got alpine :) [20:55] damit! [20:55] everyone who does a full install has alpine [20:55] i'm on 12.0 [20:56] so alpine is a imap library replacement ? [20:56] cadmium: ot [20:56] cadmium: it's an email client [20:57] deco so php will just automatically use that instead? [20:57] cadmium: huh php ? got late in the convo [20:58] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] alpine is like mutt [20:58] alphad64_ (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) joined ##slackware. [20:59] deco: it has a file needed to build php with imap support [20:59] trying to use mcrypt.. hence i need to recompile php with mcrypt option [20:59] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@207.233.110.67) joined ##slackware. [20:59] but when compile getting checking for U8T_CANONICAL... no on configure [20:59] quasar is telling me its an imap thing which i verified on google [20:59] quasar: ah ok [21:00] haha, I built and am using, atm, lxde, and switched to their red background, and, it is instead, pink: http://imagebin.org/63103 :P [21:00] jammin (i=47c76847@gateway/web/freenode/x-chsysvtkhhijgryf) joined ##slackware. [21:00] you could probably just take the package, tar xf it and copy the c-client.a to /usr/local/lib/ ... but you'd have to do that at your own discretion [21:00] hello [21:01] fire|bird is now known as missyjane [21:01] Hi, jammin. [21:01] is anyone there? [21:01] Running yum install libc-client-devel fixed the problem for Fedora people [21:01] cadmium: I have been out for a while, have you build a stable php package yet? [21:01] hi [21:01] chopp: OMG [21:01] is soccerfan here? [21:01] Action: chopp runs [21:01] fire|bird: hot and pink :P [21:01] quick, someone trip chopp [21:01] jammin: here :D [21:01] fmillpot no not yet.. turns out 12.0 php slackbuild is already broken [21:01] oh, hey dude! I made it [21:01] deco: Are the lxde devs color blind? :P [21:01] vlad_ (n=vlad@189.71.126.247) joined ##slackware. [21:01] jammin: oh sorry i thought you asked if there was a soccer fan here lol [21:02] mfillpot IF you need imap support [21:02] LOL [21:02] fire|bird: that or kinda fruity :P [21:02] deco: either way, RED != PINK :P [21:02] fire|bird: emo-desktop, huh? [21:02] :D [21:02] hahaha [21:02] jammin, how are ya? [21:02] fire|bird: sure , i bet it was a custom wallpaper :P [21:02] The blue is blue and green is green but red is pink. [21:03] I like there logo anyway :P [21:03] the logo's fine, but the color is NOT. :P [21:03] cadmium: was it just missing options or was the built itself flawed? [21:03] even more strange that the author is chinese. they know how red looks like ;P [21:04] hahahahahaha [21:04] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] the 12.0 slackbuild for php builds pine instead of alpine [21:04] john_dee: lol [21:04] quasar: hmmm that's bad pine is dead now :( [21:05] See, green is green: http://imagebin.org/63105 [21:05] fire|bird: lets not forget the "My Documents" ;) [21:05] cadmium: have you researched to see if the build for 13.0 can be used? [21:05] chopp: haha, yeah, that's even worse than a pink background. :P [21:05] fire|bird: that hurts my eyes lol [21:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:05] Well, it is neon green, but at least it's green. :P [21:05] mfillpot hmm i'm afraid quasar is saying pine hasn't changed since 2008 [21:06] cadmium: I caught that part, have you checked to see if the build for Slackware 13.0 supports alpine? [21:06] actually hell it doesn't even compile anything to get it from pine/alpine.. it's a direct cp [21:06] gm145 (i=d8798da2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ihzdgvqxzyfvxnwa) left irc: "Page closed" [21:07] and, blue is blue http://imagebin.org/63107 [21:07] cadmium: download the pine/alpine source, extract it.. go into the c-client directory and copy it to /usr/local/lib/c-client ... that's exactly what the 12.0 php slackbuild does [21:08] quasar sounds like a plan [21:08] fire|bird: they need to calibrate their monitor :P [21:08] deco: indeed [21:08] quasar any specific alpine version i should search source for ? [21:09] doubt it [21:09] I'd bet most of them will have the c-clinet.a file [21:09] nmind i got it [21:09] c-client* [21:11] cadmium: do you already have alpine installed? [21:11] CaptNemo (n=CaptNemo@adsl-99-184-95-109.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] mfillpot alpine doesn't come on 12.0 and is not in /source for 12.0 [21:11] Is Eric on by any chance? [21:11] probably have pine somewhere [21:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] cadmium: it is included in 13.0, you can try to modify the slackbuild script to install it on your system, or if you need pine I can point you tothe script [21:12] only thing he needed pine/alpine for was the c-client.a file, which it sounds like he has now [21:13] quasar: ok [21:14] quasar: do you mind me trying to chime in, I am viewing the sources and packages from all distros to see if ther are hints [21:14] nah, not at all.. you probably know more than I do about this.. I'm just a master googler :p [21:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:14] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.48.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:15] is kinda strange how the 12.0 php slackbuild copies the c-client.a file to /usr/local/lib/c-cleint, but doesn't put it in the package [21:15] firedix (n=firedix@host50.201-252-139.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:15] yeah it looks like its just a c-client thingy with UTF8 whatever the hell its not defined in the previous version [21:16] Thunderbird and Pine [21:16] mt [21:16] vlad_ (n=vlad@189.71.126.247) left irc: "leaving" [21:16] compiles alpine...... [21:16] Yudha_HT (n=yht@114.121.156.239) left irc: "I must go.." [21:16] no need to compile it if you dont want.. [21:17] quasar i need the compiled c-client which was not already compiled in the alpine tar.gz [21:17] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:17] yeah, pine is included on the 12.0 installation disk, alpine will just give you a few newer additions [21:17] Sounds like someone is trying to build php! [21:17] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-72.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [21:17] Has anyone successfully gotten Slack13 64 to be multilib? [21:17] heh [21:18] thanks to quasar might be successfull here in a few [21:18] ah, sorry, didn't realize it called the pine.SlackBuild before copying [21:18] CaptNemo: alienbob has a guide on his wiki [21:19] I've been trying it but failing at massconvert.sh [21:19] That php.SlackBuild is evil and should be shot. [21:19] agreed. [21:20] quasar ... oddly /usr/local/lib/c-client currently has nothing but an emtpy include and lib directory [21:20] CaptNemo: is the script erroring out? [21:20] not odd if you've attempted to run the php slackbuild and it errored on copying the file but didn't exit.. [21:21] I think so... hang on phone. [21:21] and no set -e .. so it didn't exit on error [21:21] ok cause apline build c-client dir doesn't have lib or include directoryis just c-client.a and some .o files.. just copy everyting to /usr/local/lib/c-client ? [21:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:22] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:23] cadmium: the file c-client.o may be dependant on other files from that build, your best bet would be to install the completed package to be safe [21:24] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:25] "locate c-client" comes up empty here. [21:25] lazulis (n=akari@117.120.26.242) joined ##slackware. [21:25] IOW, I don't think anything depends on c-client.o after the php compile. [21:26] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:26] robert. [21:27] mfillpot i'll try this quick solution if that dosn't work i'll go your route.. thanks for your help [21:27] k no response from quasar gonna try it [21:27] lazulis (n=akari@117.120.26.242) left ##slackware. [21:28] cadmium: give it a try, it should compile but the functionality after the compile is my concern [21:29] here goes..mfillpot right.. hmmm if she holds we'll sail :) [21:32] pi31415 (n=ben@98.246.78.78) joined ##slackware. [21:33] php_imap.c:(.text+0x1943): undefined reference to `mail_expunge_full' [21:33] yep configure passed but compile failed [21:34] i just admire micro$oft's UI department. only they could come up with such (insert your own word) - http://imagebin.org/63112 [21:35] hahahahahahahaha [21:35] (insert your own word) = abomination ? :P [21:35] ok mfillpot so you say i should try to use the slackbuild package from 13 on a 12.0 system ? [21:35] john_dee: yes, but you also know that the moment they change it, hordes of users will be most confused. [21:36] OMG, what happened to the Open icon? I'M LOST [21:36] fire|bird: some call it art :D [21:37] BP{k}: as if hordes of users would ever notice such thing %) [21:37] john_dee: you'd be suprised. ;) [21:37] cadmium: check the dependancies for that version of php before you try the build from 13.0 to make sure that have everything covered [21:38] Has anyone used grub on slack64 yet? [21:38] lf4: yes, it works nice and clean [21:39] mfillpot: I'm trying to run the slackbuild right now (on a clean full install) but it keeps erroring out on make. [21:40] cadmium: you didn't copy the header files [21:40] korg815` (n=user@bas8-london14-1279732182.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:40] lf4: why don't you use the package that is in the extras folder? [21:41] mfillpot: That's what I was looking for but when I did a search for grub it was only in the /extra/source/grub/ directory. [21:41] cadmium: doesn't matter which slackbuild you use if you can't copy the right files to where they need to be (everything I've told you has been taken directly from the php.SlackBuild, one would think it would have valuable information) [21:41] quasar good point [21:42] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [21:43] lf4: what slackbuild are you using? [21:43] cadmium: in the 12.0 slackbuild, the lines following "# we need to compile alpine to get c-client.a for IMAP support: [21:43] " tells you exactly what you need to do [21:43] same for the 12.1, 12.2 and 13.0 [21:43] mfillpot: The one that is on the DVD in /extra/source/grub/grub.SlackBuild [21:44] lf4: I am using grub from 13.0 32-bit to boot, slack12.2, 13.0, 64-bit 13.0 and ubuntu [21:44] lf4: what error are you receiving? [21:44] eldragon (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [21:45] lf4: I never even noticed that the script in included in 64-bit but not the package, good catch [21:45] elderK (n=zk@222-152-97-44.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [21:45] Hey guys, out of curiosity, what's the smallest bare-minimal Slackware installation worht? [21:45] about 30 cents, USD [21:46] mfillpot: I see.. this is from the slack64 DVD not 32bit. The error is: http://pastebin.com/d2672f0df [21:47] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:47] lf4: it appears to me that the flags sent to the source were incorrect to compile 64-bit. [21:48] lf4: and you were running this as root or sudo, right? [21:48] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] full root since I thought maybe it was sudo's issue. [21:48] hellpo [21:48] hello* [21:50] lf4: try adding this to the 64-bit portion of the if statement, SLKCFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC" [21:51] Soul_keeper: we are here, but in deep thought [21:51] sorry I can't test anything now, I am running ubuntu to run a clamav scan on the windows partition of this system [21:51] Nick change: WebDragon -> sigsag [21:52] hi Soul_keeper long time since i seen you in here, hope all is well with you [21:52] Nick change: sigsag -> fort [21:52] mfillpot: Same error still. [21:54] Yeah i'm doing alright, just struggling with making a dos bootable cdrom with my bios images on it .... pain [21:55] lf4: I won't be able to get into slack for another hour or so, until that happends I can't test anything in tandem or do anything else to attempt to fix grub. Why are you wanting to use grub instead of lilo? [21:55] elderK (n=zk@222-152-97-44.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:56] mfillpot: This is a tri-boot system XP/Slack64/BT4 when I installed BT4 it installed grub to the MBR. [21:56] lf4: grub doesnt build on 64bit [21:58] lf4: what is bt4? [21:58] mfillpot: backtrack 4 [21:58] sahko: then why did pat include it in extra/source? lol thanks for the info. [21:58] quasar your last outburst was most enlightening .. [21:58] thanks BP{k} [21:58] lf4: ask Pat. he didnt include a package btw as you already said so [21:58] about my mom and tattoos? [21:59] er, nm.. that was another channel [21:59] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-226-161.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:59] lf4: you should be able to modify your lilo entry to allow entry into any of those OSs [21:59] mfillpot, you still chatting? [21:59] I think i'm going to flip out and punch walls at this point [21:59] CaptNemo: yes [21:59] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:59] cadmium: does that mean you got it to compile? [21:59] Sorry about that, two calls back to back... [21:59] mfillpot: Yeah I know but I don't like lilo for the fact you have to install it to the MBR every time you make a change. I'll just look at editing the grub menu.lst [22:00] Thanks for the help mfillpot and sahko [22:00] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:00] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-2.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Wanna chat about mulitilib install? [22:01] lf4: if you have grub pointed to the /boot/grub/menu.list file, then it doesn't matter what system you use to edit it. Why don't you just mount the BT4 boot partition within slack so you can edit it from there? [22:01] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.153.200.139.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] CaptNemo: back to the last question, were did the script error out? [22:02] it said: "Required package directories a,ap,d,l,n,x below '/root/Multilib/slackware64-compat32' are not found! Aborting..." [22:02] but... they are there [22:02] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:03] mfillpot: Its the other way around though (BT4 and XP are there but slack64 isnt) I have to add the kernel in menu.lst lol but what I added failed. [22:03] sako (n=sako@unaffiliated/sako) joined ##slackware. [22:03] agh! now I see why. [22:03] hey guys, i am having a strange issue with my laptop where i cannot control the brightness in the virtual console.. [22:03] lf4: can you pastebin your current menu.lst with the failed slackware entry? [22:04] it even works on my bios splash screen yet when linux starts loading the modules it stops working until i go into an X session [22:04] lol mfillpot I pointed it to /sdb5 instead of sdb3 :/ *facepalm* [22:04] then it works fine in X, however, no matter what I do I cannot make it change the brightness in the virtual console... [22:05] lf4: It's not as bad as my grub troubles when I started with it I was using symlinks and went off for two hours because I forgot to update a symlink [22:05] CaptNemo: are you running the script as root so it has access to the root directory? [22:05] yes [22:05] Oh wow mfillpot lol yeah got to remember those symlinks [22:06] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [22:06] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] CaptNemo: I am pulling up the script now [22:07] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] ooo already a new addition to -current [22:07] AFUDOS.exe LMX1103.ROM I just need these two files on a cdrom with the contents of winb98.IMA can anyone help me ? [22:07] Ok [22:08] Soul_keeper: thumb dirve doesn't work? [22:08] etf (i=bd1f1213@gateway/web/freenode/x-zwgatkniecqbfllc) joined ##slackware. [22:08] win9x ugh [22:09] alisonken1home, bios doesn't support booting from usb devices apparently [22:09] CaptNemo: can you pelase point me to the locate of the massconvert.sh script on the net? [22:09] It's in Eric's tool package.... [22:09] ok cool it made the package [22:09] Can I DCC it to you? [22:10] j0z (n=JESUS@189.114.188.37) joined ##slackware. [22:10] now to make the package with mcrypt [22:11] it's in the compat32-tools-1.0-noarch-10alien.tgz package [22:11] CaptNemo: I am looking at the script now [22:11] You're fast [22:11] thats what she said [ in bed ] [22:12] etf (i=bd1f1213@gateway/web/freenode/x-zwgatkniecqbfllc) left irc: Client Quit [22:12] Funny, all I ever hear is "are you done yet".... [22:12] antiwire: congrats on the job, that's awsome. [22:13] thanks [22:13] can't wait to start [22:13] It's going to be much more intense than my last "real" job [22:13] sako (n=sako@unaffiliated/sako) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] yeah no doubt hey [22:14] eldragon (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:14] antiwire: Ohh, you got the job? [22:14] Action: agentc0re just got home [22:14] yea [22:14] Nice dude, congrats. [22:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:14] antiwire: if you have openings, let me know. [22:14] antiwire: :D [22:14] CaptNemo: it appears alien's script is referring to the ftp rather than your hdd [22:14] I signed the agreement today and the next step is the heavy background check and drug screening which I will pass [22:15] That seems to be the default if you do specify a directory... [22:15] antiwire: congratulations, that's awesome. [22:15] I put in: massconvert32.sh -i ../Multilib/slackware64-compat32/ [22:15] agentc0re: There might actually be openings in the future, the company is expanding rapidly [22:15] antiwire: did they ask questions like, "what is your online screen name?" [22:15] CaptNemo: ok, I see that now [22:15] agentc0re: haha no, but the personality test was weird as all hell [22:16] and that's when it gave the error. (I tried it twice with different directories) [22:16] antiwire: I am not joking about trying to hook me up. I am dead serious. I know it'll take quite some time for you to get an "in" inside the company... but, again. Seriously. Let me know. [22:16] what company? [22:16] antiwire: congrats. [22:16] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] antiwire: so how long were you between jobs? [22:17] john_dee (n=id@93-81-1-193.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [22:17] agentc0re: 1.5 year [22:17] eldragon (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Dominian: It's a commercial telcom company that does managed onsite services and VoIP installs [22:18] antiwire: is it really that bad down there or were you quite picky? [22:18] cool [22:18] antiwire: when do you start? [22:18] agentc0re: I had saved a bunch of cash so I could play around and take my time. I did a little contract work in between [22:18] Dominian: Next Tuesday ;) [22:19] er.. [22:19] where's this company located? [22:19] SoCal [22:19] CaptNemo: the script defaults to an error if the a, ap, d, l, n and x directoeis don't exist or don't belong to the effective user id [22:19] ah ok [22:19] that was almost freaky [22:19] koopsta (n=koop@unaffiliated/koopsta) joined ##slackware. [22:19] antiwire: got a new guy starting at work next week as well.. about the same time frame [22:19] I was going to crap myself if you were him [22:19] lol [22:19] hahaha [22:20] ahhhh.... lemme check something [22:20] antiwire: that's good man. It's better to be picky. [22:20] agentc0re: The job situation is still bad; for every job opening in this area there are approximately 10 applicants [22:20] I made it through a bunch of 20 though [22:20] I downloaded thme as USER and are trying to use them as root [22:20] antiwire: same here.. when manufacturing went under.. and a lot of the plants here closed.. where i work was getting applications for tech support/project manager positions we had.. and these people had NO experience with IT at ALL [22:20] antiwire: Well i hope that it turns out to be a good job. It would suck to have gone through all of that to wind up in hell. [22:21] CaptNemo: that woudl be the problem, you must change the directories and packages to be ownerd by root to run them as root [22:21] ok thanks people, bye. [22:21] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:21] agentc0re: it will be good but certainly a hectic one. Not like my last job which was very laid back to the point of silly. [22:21] Lemme try it... brb [22:22] antiwire: Hopefully it doesn't consume you. [22:22] i do not like the sound of the title project manager [22:22] agentc0re: They seem pretty good about everything. After the first 90 days I automatically get a week's worth of paid vacation so I don't think they are in the business of killing their employees [22:23] pi31415: er.. why? [22:23] it sounds like a job where you "babysit" people rather than do fun stuff <=) [22:23] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@82.155.208.92) joined ##slackware. [22:24] antiwire: Cool. Well i hope for the best. I hope i soon find away out of my current job. [22:24] mfillpot: still barfed [22:25] the whole tree is now root:root [22:25] CaptNemo: same error message? [22:25] Yeppers [22:25] CaptNemo: well don't drink as much. [22:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-2.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] Manager = all the work, all the responsibility [22:25] The tree is an alky [22:25] MrHales: allt he money [22:26] lf4: speaking of which, know any it guys in utah that want a job? it will make it easier for me to leave. :D [22:26] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] agentc0re: What type of job? lol I might be interested, grave shift is killing me. [22:27] CaptNemo: what error message are you receiving now? [22:27] lf4: I administer both users and servers. Everything IT. It's for a medical clinic. [22:27] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-226-161.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:28] same one: "Required package directories a,ap,d,l,n,x below '/root/Multilib/slackware64-compat32' are not found! Aborting..." [22:28] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [22:28] agentc0re: Humm that could be fun. what type of servers? [22:28] Oh GEEZZZZZZ [22:28] I know why.... [22:28] CaptNemo: did the get the case right with the directory name Multilib and is that also owned by root? [22:28] lf4: well i have some slackware 12.2 servers and a complete windows 2000 domain. [22:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] I copied eric's directory names EXACTLY (a-compat32 ap-compat32 d-compat32 l-compat32 n-compat32 x-compat32 [22:29] ) [22:29] lf4: i also have two Samsung phone systems. One is a 500r2 and the other is the newer model, 7400. [22:29] CaptNemo: that would do it [22:29] so "a ap d l n x" doesnt exist [22:30] brb... [22:30] agentc0re: Darn I don't know how to manage windows servers (need to learn that though lol), is the samsung a voip system or more like a blackberry server? [22:30] lf4: My firewall is Untangle. We have qwest QMOE for point to point office connections. our backbone switch is a cisco 3750G(i think). all the other switches are almost garbage...IMO. [22:30] lf4: it's all digital... no voip. [22:31] lf4: i take that back.. mostly digial.. our 500rd system is running with a voip addon card and supplies another office with voip phones. [22:31] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:31] nice, 3650G was a good switch :) [22:31] lf4: 3650G is probably it.. [22:32] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] lf4: well you and my current employee would get along great because he doesn't know much about the windows server either... you can fail together. i'd be great. [22:32] lf4: super leet. [22:33] lf4: you can blame it on BSOD [22:33] agentc0re: haha so I take it you manage it all by your lonesome? [22:33] lf4: no, not really but yes. [22:33] agentc0re: true haha thats always the case with windows (if its down its a BSOD) [22:33] Hmmmm... mfillpot... Do you know if those compat32 packages are already converted? [22:33] agentc0re: Whats the pay and hours like? [22:33] lf4: no, not really. but it can be your excuse. [22:34] lf4: well since we just installed a new phone system, hours have been shit. for the most part it's really relax. [22:34] agentc0re: lol i was joking also how mission critical are those? [22:34] lf4: are what? the windows servers? all of them. [22:35] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [22:35] agentc0re: Oh nice yeah the windows servers ( when I was a net admin) the unix servers were more important then the windows ones. [22:35] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-201-127.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [22:35] lf4: am around half way of 100k. probably not a good idea to tell you exactly what i make if this goes serious. [22:35] CaptNemo: if they are txz then they should already be converted packages [22:35] They are..... [22:36] I'm going to script this.... [22:36] brb... [22:36] agentc0re: True but thats good enough the problem is I'm attending school in Jan. but I might know someone that would be interested. [22:37] tease [22:37] lf4: well if you attend school during non working hours it will be fine. [22:37] 8am-5pm? [22:38] lf4: if that someone doesn't hang out here... then that someone probably wont work out. I only hired my current co-worker based on that he used slackware. [22:38] lf4: on other things of course. but the winner was that he used slackware. [22:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.203.99) joined ##slackware. [22:38] haha agentc0re good point this guy has said he doesn't like slackware (why compile when others already did) he likes centos. [22:39] Winners don't use drugs. [22:39] agentc0re: I like your hiring standards [22:39] how do I change the display refresh rate permanently in slackware 13.0? [22:39] lf4: he wouldn't work then. [22:39] heh, this windows server has paged out 1.6gb memory, has a 1.5gb fs cache, and 1.2gb free memory [22:39] guess it knows best that it needs to page that much [22:39] I tried just creating a xorg.conf with the monitor section containing just the vertical rate but it X fails [22:40] agentc0re: lol so how would the training process be for your replacement? [22:40] pi31415: probably the programs in the background know better. :P that's dumb. [22:41] a process named System is making sine waves out of the CPU usage history [22:41] brb, killing this POS winbox and going back to slack [22:41] lf4: well first i would have nothing to do with the hiring process. and if i did this, i have no idea if they'd want to keep me around for training or expect my co-worker to do it. [22:41] mfillpot (n=tommy@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:42] they alternate, like it is hopping from processor to processor [22:42] agentc0re: Thats what i mean how competent is your co-worker at the tasks? [22:42] I just a week of riding ~30 miles total on a mountain bike and light strength training with just a pull/situp bar, I've lost 4 pounds of fat and gained muscle [22:42] gg ectomorphic body ;) [22:43] antiwire, the power of testosterone [22:44] Just a slight change in activity levels makes a huge difference [22:44] antiwire: nicely done. I started doing lots of walking in July and cutting down on junk and beer. I've lost 24 pounds so far. [22:44] y0 hitest [22:44] hi fire|bird [22:45] hitest: That's how I started too. Just walking until I had regained some of my cardio enough to not die on the bike [22:46] antiwire: in the beginning I hated it..really missed the coldcuts, beer and stuff. I'm feeling better every day tho. [22:46] You didn't lose it. I know exactly where it went. [22:46] Action: MrHales pats his belly. [22:46] lol [22:46] hitest: The key is to just keep doing it [22:46] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] antiwire: agreed. did my 1 hour on the treadmill this evening [22:48] I let my self get weak a couple months back when I destroyed my knee so after that had healed is when I started walking to regain strength there. It's better now so I can ride bikes and surf again [22:48] right on [22:49] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:49] I'm an older guy (52), so I'll be happy if I can trim up, get down to a respectable weight. [22:49] okay new dumb question... anyone know why #!/bin/bash in my script gets me a: "bash: /mnt/cdrom/multilib.sh: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied [22:49] " [22:50] pi31415 (n=ben@98.246.78.78) left irc: "peace" [22:51] "permission denied" [22:51] maybe you don't have read permission to the script [22:51] nope. rxrxrx [22:52] or is it executible by you? [22:52] should be [22:52] hmm [22:52] CaptNemo: can you paste the script? [22:52] <---root [22:52] ya [22:52] well anyone following the whole mcrypt php thing for 12.0 it was resolved by using the c-type libs from alpine so server is back up in running with mcrypt enabled php [22:52] change #!/bin/bash to #!/bin/sh ? [22:52] ready for a flood boot? [22:53] #!/bin/bash [22:53] upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new *.t?z [22:53] Channel flood from CaptNemo -- kicking [22:53] installpkg compat32/*-compat32/*.t?z [22:53] CaptNemo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:53] bah [22:53] CaptNemo (n=CaptNemo@adsl-99-184-95-109.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] lol [22:53] CaptNemo: pastebin! [22:53] pastebin.slackadelic.com [22:53] :) [22:53] how to i start a installation via usb? usbboot.img? [22:53] <--- has no idea what that is [22:53] slackboy will nail you every time [22:53] CaptNemo: check it out.. its pretty obvious when you get to the site what to do :) [22:53] Slackboy doesn't scare me :) [22:54] slackboy is on sterroids.. there's already an investigaton [22:54] What did I do stupid there? [22:54] He's a Roidbot? [22:54] powtrix: check out the README_USB.TXT in the mirrors [22:54] CaptNemo: try adding a \ at the end of the upgradepkg line [22:55] I think the script is executing both of those as one command [22:55] it complains about a bad intrepreter [22:55] SEEMS like it's my shebang line... ? [22:56] Oh, I HAD them seperated by a blank line [22:57] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix3.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [22:57] someone fed slackboy meth, wonderful [22:58] Mean_Admin_ (n=chatzill@modemcable234.10-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:58] CaptNemo: bash won't see it as a blank line iirc. [22:58] This is friggin odd...... The SAME script works fine from the HD but won't run from the CD [22:58] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable234.10-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:58] antiwire: a hyper bot is a dangerous thing indeed [22:58] noexec is fstab :P [22:58] Nick change: Mean_Admin_ -> Mean_Admin [22:59] CRAP!!!!! You're right [22:59] I'm a retard [22:59] what?! seriously !? [22:59] CaptNemo: worked? [22:59] what did you have noexec as in fstab? [22:59] No... noexec isn't there [23:00] er. then nothing worked? [23:00] ah shoooo [23:00] /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,users,ro 0 0 (the ro maybe?) [23:00] The script is working from my hd but not from the CD [23:00] maybe that script needs to write something somewhere that is read-only [23:00] good point [23:01] Linux is too friggin hard, I'm going back to TRSDOS! [23:01] brb [23:01] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] TRSDOS ? [23:01] CaptNemo: er... [23:01] [looks around] [23:01] CaptNemo: the script probably won't work from the CD... it would have to execute from the HD iirc.. as it does write temp files somewhere when doing the upgrades [23:01] CaptNemo: I am happy running pure 64-bit why specifically do you want 32-bit coampat? [23:01] change the temp dir ? [23:01] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:02] not only that.. its probably going to assume that your root is whatever your executing the script from [23:02] CaptNemo: You could look at using the root= argument [23:02] man upgradepkg should detail that.. as well as installpkg [23:02] THAT would probably work from the CD [23:02] but then agtain>> I could be wrong [23:03] is there an app that would use a cd-rw as a writable storage media in conjuction with ram ? that would be so freaky [23:03] Hmmm... it looked like it installed..... anyone know how to test for multilib capability? [23:03] theres an idea setup /tmp & /var in a ramdisk [23:04] mfillpot: because, I still have some 32bit stuff left over from my Slamd machine [23:05] I went to make a wine packge for the kid and it complained about not having 32 bit stuff. [23:05] CaptNemo: I guess that would be a good reason [23:06] Eh, not really... I'll be REAL happy when everything is 64bit [23:06] ...of course, by that time, I'll be running Slamd128 [23:07] Anyway. Thank you for the help, I'm going to bed..... [23:07] CaptNemo (n=CaptNemo@adsl-99-184-95-109.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:07] capone: good night [23:11] does 64-bit wine get you drunker than 32-bit? [23:11] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] (twice as drunk, or 2**32 times as drunk?) [23:11] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:11] correct [23:12] you get waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy more drunk [23:12] Nick change: fort -> WebDragon [23:12] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:12] last time I got drunk & used my laptop, I somehow managed to snag the edge of my finger under the spacebar and rip it off the keyboard :( [23:13] that sux [23:13] owned [23:13] one of the 2 retaining clips broke, it's now being held on by just one clip, works OK but wiggles more than it should [23:13] =p [23:13] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [23:13] I forgot I wasn't using a model M [23:14] I had to construct a post for retaining clips on a P4 heatsink [23:16] yuck [23:16] out of a pen top and a paper clip [23:16] it was so macguyver [23:17] some day will have to watch that show again, see if his inventions actually would work [23:17] question, why is it my DVD RW drive isn't reading my blank DVD-R's? [23:17] eh, what were you expecting to be able to read from a blank disc? [23:18] when i burn an ISO in K3B [23:18] you mean, formerly blank dvd-rs aren't readable after they're burned? [23:18] no K3B isn't reading blank DVD-r's [23:19] eh, I fail to understand the question... a blank DVD won't have anything on it, not even a bunch of zeroes, so what would it be able to read? [23:19] Dominian: slackboy TAKES STEROIDS?????? [23:20] viagra?? [23:20] K3B isn't seeing a blank medium [23:20] oh, it thinks the drive is empty, and refuses to start burning? [23:20] yes, but when I use a CD-r its good to go [23:21] and it only sees the drive as a CD-r drive [23:21] the first thing you do when troubleshooting k3b is to try using cdrecord, see if that works (to isolate the problem: is it k3b-specific or not?) [23:21] omnipotentduo: the only other thing would be is it a cdrom drive and NOT a dvdrom drive? otherwise, are you using dvd-r or dvd+r medium? [23:21] (since k3b is just a pretty front end that runs cdrecord for you, I mean) [23:22] first dvd-rw drive I owned couldn't burn dvd+r, and if I tried, it would lock up the drive (the drive would never work again until a reboot) [23:22] i have only had this problem since switching to slack64 [23:23] so try cdrecord or growisofs, see if they have the same problem [23:23] if so, it's probably a problem with your drive (being mis-detected by the kernel or something). If they work, it's a k3b-specific problem, which at least narrows it down some [23:24] k3b sees it as the right drive [23:24] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.203.99) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] cdrecord or growisofs is the first step in troubleshooting [23:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-214-56.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [23:26] No, IRC is. [23:26] Or is that troubleMAKING? [23:27] if someone makes too much trouble, you shoot them? [23:28] ok, I'm out now, gnight all [23:28] gnight [23:29] nevermind, it was my own stupidity, i was starting with a CD project not a DVD project [23:29] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:29] cadmium (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [23:30] the burn worked fine w/ cdrecord, so i went into k3b and started the project with no shortcuts [23:30] so the people I rent from, have a spindle of blank CDRs... for some unknown reason, every disc on the spindle looks like it's covered in fingerprints and scratches [23:31] and they really are blank (they even work OK) [23:32] thats cool [23:33] but I spent 30 mins looking for the blank CDs today, cause I automatically assumed those were used... bleah [23:34] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:34] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [23:36] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:36] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:37] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.28.147.138) joined ##slackware. [23:38] Suppose that I'm installing from a custom set of tagfiles. If I forget to write a line for a certain package, what will happen with regards to that package? Will it skip over it completely or ask me about it? [23:39] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [23:39] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [23:42] hm. Anyone know anything about a "sansa clip" mp3 player? shows up as a drive, I can mount it, "df" shows the correct amount of used space (it's got 400+ megs of music on it), but the mp3 files don't show up at the mount point (just some directories, including MUSIC/, and some misc whatever.SYS files) [23:42] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.28.147.138) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:43] UrchLap: I have a Sansa Clip [23:43] All music files would show up (and new ones should be put) in MUSIC [23:44] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [23:44] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:44] yeah, if I go plug it into their windows machine and use windows to "explore" the drive, I see the music files under MUSIC [23:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:44] lazulis (n=akari@117.120.26.242) joined ##slackware. [23:45] UrchLap: but in slack, it doesn't show the files at all? anywhere? [23:45] not anywhere [23:45] find /mnt/tmp -iname \*.mp3 # returns no results [23:45] ls /mnt/tmp/MUSIC # again, nothing [23:46] "du" shows no directory larger than 2MB [23:46] Hmm, do you know what usb mode it's in? [23:46] eh, actually, no dir larger than 1MB [23:46] (the 2MB file is "MTABLE.SYS") [23:46] what, usb 1.1 vs. 2.0? should be 2.0 [23:46] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:47] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [23:47] firedix (n=firedix@host50.201-252-139.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] I found some ubuntu forum posts that talk about "MTP" vs. "MCS", apparently these things default to using a proprietary MS protocol for file xfer, but if it were that, I'd expect to not be able to even mount it [23:48] find /mnt/tmp -iname "*.mp3" ? [23:49] UrchLap: yeah, might be worth a try though. Also, have you updated the firmware at all? [23:49] thrice`: \*.mp3 and "*.mp3" are exactly equivalent (the problem isn't that I don't know how to use find) [23:49] mm, i've never used my sansa clip in windows :( [23:49] thrice`: I wish they'd get rockbox working on the clips. :P [23:50] fire|bird: no, and I'm not planning to update the firmware: if I manage to brick it, I'll have to buy them a new one (with my nonexistent money) [23:50] heh, ok. I've updated mine many times, that's how I got ogg/flac support, etc. with it. [23:51] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-214-56.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:52] I'd try switching the mode with it then and see if that helps at all. Sometimes it can be finicky with being detected. Also, could try seeing if amarok sees it and the music on it. [23:53] eh, I have zero interest in figuring out amarok. I need the files to show up as files so I can "cp blah.mp3 ~/mp3" or whatever [23:53] what do you mean by "switching the mode"? [23:53] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] CeruleanC (n=cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [23:54] the usb mode in settings on the player, if it's on MTP, try the other choice or vice versa. I'm not sure what firmware that has or anything, but it may be a choice between MTP and Autodetect. [23:54] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable234.10-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009073022]" [23:54] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:56] OK, it was on autodetect, the other 2 choices are MTP and MCS, I set it to MCS.. [23:56] jammin (i=47c76847@gateway/web/freenode/x-chsysvtkhhijgryf) left irc: "Page closed" [23:56] ok, if that doesn't work, try MTP, sometimes Autodetect can get it wrong. [23:56] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [23:57] MTP apparently won't work on linux without doing some work (need a library called libmtp, and I suppose some program(s) to use the lib) [23:57] night all [23:57] night hitest [23:57] night fire|bird [23:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:57] UrchLap: yeah, hopefully MCS will work then. [23:58] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-153-36-67.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] put it in MTP mode, it no longer shows up as a USB storage device [23:59] Did MCS work at all? [00:00] --- Wed Sep 9 2009