[00:00] proxy war baby, proxy war [00:02] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:02] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-103-120-86.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:07] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:08] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [00:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.147.209) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.18.82) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Didit^_^ (osc@202.70.59.30) left ##slackware. [00:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:14] so what did the euphiric google balls mean? [00:14] *euphoric [00:15] don't know but they got rid of them :( [00:16] yep, they just killed em in the last hours [00:16] frk (~jcn@189.58.209.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] i killed so much time messing with those things today [00:16] i wonder what the new sliver one means [00:17] i think an understated one to contrast [00:17] i.e. they calmed down. [00:17] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] ah [00:18] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:18] type something in the search and watch the new logo [00:19] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:20] Slordx (~Slordx@201-75-12-30-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Slordx (Slordx@201-75-12-30-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [00:21] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [00:21] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-59-253-182.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.160) joined ##slackware. [00:22] tsccof (~tsccof@187.54.185.3) joined ##slackware. [00:23] that's cool! [00:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:23] i think the balls were more amusing [00:25] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [00:27] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] john_dee (~id@95-29-15-32.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:30] they're supposedly giving a peek at some new technology at an event tomorrow, right? [00:30] i wonder if this is pre-unveiling silliness [00:31] is anyone else having issues with Desktop Effects in -current? [00:31] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:31] the effects are disabled even when i check the checkbox to enable them. [00:31] if i click resume, it says it is enabling them, but they still don't work [00:31] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) joined ##slackware. [00:31] mancha: who, Google? [00:31] hey al.. [00:32] yeah, google [00:32] I wanted to share that.. I'm going to be adding slackware as another system to my setups... openSuSE/ Mac OS X/ slackware/ Mandriva... [00:32] I never heard anything on it but, please inform me [00:32] and perhaps fedora [00:32] just wanted to share this with you all, http://express.paltalk.com/?refc=83235 [00:33] this way too, linux users, unix etc, mac os x, we can all communicate in real time.. [00:33] I'm still working on this muti cast , voice engine, for a secure client/server that billions of people are not aware of.. [00:33] but also, perhaps some teamspeak server as well [00:33] the even is going by "search on" [00:33] have much respect for slack users ;) [00:33] My grampa died today [00:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] ah.. sorry to hear that indubitableness [00:34] thanks [00:34] it's unreal [00:34] it hasn't really settled in yet [00:35] indubitableness: sorry to hear...my condolesences [00:36] thanks y'all [00:36] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:36] sorry working on paltalk channel [00:36] plus, I need to get my CSS working.. but I'm going to try urban terror.. [00:37] went to the apple store yesterday.. in Chicago, IL, nice store, never been, got 2 macbook pro's for these girls in Notre Dame high school, but was abe to get apple to give them the student discount, because a requirement to have notebooks.. [00:37] they were pretty vague about sharing "our latest technological innovation" [00:37] any ideas about the kde 4.5.1 desktop effects? [00:37] we'll find out tomorrow :) [00:37] was going to program.. openSUSE For them on 2 T410s with i5 or i7 at least, but mac os x more user friendy for what they need, and all the notre dame students. guess what there using.. " macs " [00:38] I'm going to get a macbook pro though, i7, 15" matte dispay of course, probably add my own SSD later, patriot torqx maybe, perhaps g.ski [00:38] To install slackware on? [00:38] g.skilL*.... this btc is messed up now.. ;) [00:38] nah [00:38] heh [00:38] the systems I will run in vbox [00:38] right [00:38] I been building performance systems for a while, but I'm gettin kind of tired of it [00:38] mancha: true..hope it's good..;) [00:38] canmac do KVM? [00:38] probably not huh? [00:39] going to see about a macpro 8 core as well, or quad, but nehalem must have :) [00:39] I think so [00:39] I wouldn't mind a mac [00:39] if it was free [00:39] there nice [00:39] have to have intel though [00:39] I couldn't bring myself to buy one [00:39] but they do look fantastic [00:39] I'm glad apple switched to using intel, .. [00:39] I wouldn't mind a PPC model [00:40] the g processors were bottleknecked, I bought a powerbook g4, and worked on it, made it to where you could contro the 2 dans and sold it and made a nice profit off it [00:40] paid $325 for it, and sold it for $525 [00:40] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [00:40] but I'll never buy a G4 or G5 again, [00:40] niice [00:40] even though you can get them for nice steal on like macofalltrades [00:40] going to be a macpro as far as tower, and i7, [00:40] argh* [00:40] nehalem [00:41] macbook pro, i7, matte, etc.. [00:41] then a T410 [00:41] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Quit: lp0 on fire [00:41] I got a funny feeling though, I'll probably end up getting the T410, but I had a rough deal dealing with lenovo' customer service.. blows.. [00:41] had got a T61 machine with a warped Top LCD cover ;P [00:41] clint-, get a dell [00:41] nah [00:42] I can't stand dell :) [00:42] I would rather build an Asus barebones notebook [00:42] and I cna [00:42] can ;) [00:42] thinkpads , and macbook pro's are pretty much what I supply in my business, :) [00:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:43] other than that, it would be Asus notebooks., and pretty much supply on matte displays.. I believe in solid engineering. [00:43] I don't care for the way dell engineers [00:43] http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae205/clintburford/?action=view¤t=AeroCool_ExtremEngine_3T_left_angle_view.jpg&newest=1 [00:44] that system, Aerocool Extreme Engine 3T is what I was using for a while.. [00:44] but 250mm side fan cuts down on air flow.. [00:44] heck for notebook coolers.. jeev , I selll and supply customers with an NZXT cryo-S [00:44] and nothing else ;) [00:44] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:44] plus I can control the acpi, for the fans.. so.. ;) if needed [00:45] indubitableness, [00:45] tar -xzvf is not standard on mac os x though hehe [00:45] I think its .. tar -x though [00:45] if you run the command.. tar -xzvf it won't run ;) [00:45] by default. and thats in the bash shell.. even [00:46] and you have tcsh too [00:47] clint-, i dont like lenovo's even though i have a few, i've never had better luck with dell [00:47] i've never use a computer brand that's been better to me than dell [00:47] well thats good jeev [00:47] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [00:47] and well that was back in 2008 , when offices were still in canada, [00:47] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [00:47] it was a great machine dont' get me wrong.. T61, 14" quadro nvs.. 140 m [00:47] i've got a t61 with ssd [00:47] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [00:47] but I have heard a lot of reviews, the quadros in that burn up [00:48] going to get a T410 [00:48] doesn't have a quadro i think [00:48] with the nvidia 3100 [00:48] quadro [00:48] its switchabe as wel [00:48] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [00:48] pardon the keyboard, girs got the keys all sticky [00:48] likely idiots place them on beds and fluffy areas with no air flow [00:48] then cry cause it burns up >_> [00:48] my btc lumniscent is still in great shape [00:48] go figure [00:49] linux_probe, [00:49] because they need to be using the NZXT cryo-s [00:49] ;) [00:49] pffttt [00:49] the design is awesome.. and engineered awesome [00:49] 2 120 mm fans.. and nice rubber finish with aluminum [00:49] and no pffftt. [00:49] all them other coolers are blokes [00:49] many thing s run hot :) [00:49] yeah, but you can control the acpi [00:49] ;) [00:50] plus, I use artic silver so [00:50] but yeah [00:50] some people don't think [00:50] people take the term laptop too seriously [00:50] hehe [00:50] laptops should be placed on hard flat surfaces with good airflow :) [00:51] where do you see 99% of laptops [00:51] >_> on laps, beds, couches [00:51] google, or w/e, ixquick, NZXT cryo-s [00:51] I'll do a video of it for the 1 I got on youtube sometime ;) [00:52] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] i do it this way, i use dekstops, if im not bye them i dont care whats going on ;) [00:52] i always laugh at people texting on phones or their "crackberries" [00:53] they act asif they're going to miss something of utter importance [00:53] Antiqua (~phiezer@p5DF45D61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:54] btw [00:54] heya linux_probe [00:54] :) [00:54] gtsu [00:54] hehe, me too Linde_ [00:54] lp [00:54] I don't text.. on my Casio GzOne Rock ;) [00:54] I have txt msg'ing blocked [00:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:55] i hate laptops so much i've never bought one to this day [00:55] sounds like some researchers at a naval base I was stationed at who had windows 3.1 and wondered why there computer was sooooo slooooowwwww - they had their email set to check _every_minute_ so they wouldn't miss anything [00:55] lol ^^ [00:56] the mouse I use is a Logitech VX revolution [00:56] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [00:56] I'm like "If you don't anser an email within 15 minutes, what's the worst that can happen? they call you on the phone." [00:56] the clickers though however, I wouldn't mind them being like the clickers on the Microsoft Arch Mouse, however the scroll wheel is a piss poor design.. as where my scroll wheel is alloy metal ;) [00:56] and you can change it from friction scroll to smooth friction less scroll [00:57] alisonken1lap: 486 or 386? [00:57] traction is bad azz as well [00:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:57] MLanden: 486 [00:57] lol alicephilippa [00:57] alisonken1home, [00:57] I just talk directly with US-CERT, [00:57] clint-: alisonken1lap :) [00:57] don't even waste time.. submitting forms [00:57] ah ;) [00:58] alisonken1home is the home machine, and I'm at work now [00:58] Action: linux_probe looks at 1998 keyboard and ol wired optical mouse [00:59] lol [01:00] Action: clint- as far as the desktop keyboard goes, has a btc luminscent slim [01:00] had got 2 of them from newegg.. [01:00] lol linux_probe your old school [01:01] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [01:01] well it's an old compaq KB [01:01] on of their first internet model ( extra buttons) [01:01] ah, it appears that something in the 13.1->current upgrade trampled my opengl files from the nvidia driver [01:01] reinstalling it fixed hte issues with desktop effects [01:01] decent heavy bess and good "clicky" responce :) [01:02] hmm heavy base** [01:02] linux_probe, , if I had the right stuff [01:02] and really great at reverse engineering.. [01:02] i would use an earlier AT din kb [01:02] but they are all wore out [01:02] I would take the microsoft arch mouse clickers, and put them on my Logitech VX revolution :) [01:02] then I would be happy as can be [01:03] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:03] mine is a plain mouse, 3 button/wheel [01:03] having more buttons just gives me more to fumble up and hit in error [01:03] I'm sure it is. [01:04] i have an wireless logitech mx700 here [01:04] my girl just has this wired optical I got for the system that was custom built, back in 2004 [01:04] then I got into custom building, and performance workstations later [01:04] thumb buttons, buttons around the scroll wheel [01:04] but I'm going to get her, probably a vx revo too ;) [01:04] i've got the wireless mx revolution [01:04] i always bump them [01:04] so i dont use it [01:04] I was thinkin about that, but then I seen how big it was, and bulky, and then you have to charge it [01:04] ove the VX revo [01:04] plus i forget to charge it [01:05] no offense [01:05] I was going to buy it zaltekk [01:05] i dont use it but rare occsion [01:05] i really like the freeflowing mouse wheel and having the forward/back buttons [01:05] glad I went with the VX though, and hehe, I got a stea on it, $17, walmart let me upgrade the Lx7 I had hehe. [01:05] it's on the KVM and everything on the KVM is all CLI [01:05] was like how long you had it, I was like, erm, about 3 months ;) [01:05] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:05] unless i plug a amchine to repair [01:05] and had it over a year :P [01:05] walmart is bad about taking everything as if it was just bought [01:05] and putting it back on the shelf [01:06] yes ^^ [01:06] and had change it out many times. and the VX revo, I had used about 3 of them, accidently put battery in wrong way and it shorted the cuircuit pane board [01:06] always be sure to check for factory sealed packages [01:06] i've returned open computer games and they took it back [01:06] hehe [01:06] there was a legit problem though [01:06] walmart is always good for that zaltekk ;) [01:06] for whatever reason the sound was all kinda of screwed up if i tried to play online [01:06] so there was no point in keeping the game [01:06] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:07] my buddy returned 5 killed dvd-rw's [01:07] i didnt even get them from wallmart [01:07] Antiqua (~phiezer@p5DF463DD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] no boxes, no recipets [01:07] well, the disk and key i returned were perfectly fine [01:07] >_> [01:07] when I look at your nick zaltekk , I think.. ZyXEL [01:07] ;P [01:07] if id have tried that they'd have arrested my arse, lol [01:07] i don't know what ZyXEL is [01:07] watch out for universal karma - it'll come bite you in the ass one day [01:07] its a firewall UTM etc [01:08] ah. i've been told that it sounds like the name of an antidepressant before [01:08] within 5 minutes he had 5 new dvd-rw's and returned 5 bad :) [01:08] i was like WTF [01:08] I have a sonicwall TZ 170 SP [01:08] Kow (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [01:08] but going to try and sell it, still sealed in box.. hehe :) [01:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:08] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [01:08] well, I inspected the box, but its going for $450 to approx $800 , on line :) [01:08] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:09] hmm, did KDE 4.5.x remove the option to select cpufreq governers based on your power profile? [01:09] that's going to be a real pain... [01:09] hey, maybe some of you would be able to help me figure out why I can' get Counter STrike source to load via steam.. on my openSUSE setup [01:09] o_O [01:09] not sure if its the security stopping it, but I've checked logs, and I can't figure out why it won't oad [01:10] I even have, crossover pro, and games, that didnt' even work either, but I like to use wine, if I can.. which I have been since 2k4 [01:10] keep the windows garbage on windows =p [01:10] going to get 2 macs though, a macpro and a mbp, and they came out with CSS for mac so.. [01:10] hehe [01:10] well, I'm going to test this urban terror.. now.. :) [01:10] zaltekk: there's a "when loading profile execute: " box where i guess you could have it echo the freq governor to wherever in /sys it goes [01:10] load windows on the macs, lol [01:11] Action: linux_probe hides [01:11] maco: yeah...but then it'd need root access for hte command to work [01:11] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-46-73.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:11] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks!! [01:11] zaltekk: and kdesudo would be a pain... though you could setup /etc/sudoers to let that specific command execute as NOPASSWD for your user.... [01:13] right. i'll likely do that [01:13] i've really liked my laptop automatically switching the cpu down when i unplug the power cable [01:13] linux_probe, , yeah [01:13] I been running my windows xp pro I got from college instructor.. started running it on vmware, for linux.. back in 2004 [01:14] then after about 2006, etc, I switched to vbox [01:14] do you like vbox more than qemu? [01:14] I actually build the non OSE as well, because of features and things.. the OSE lacks [01:14] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-113-39.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:14] never messed with qemu actually mancha [01:14] only one feature, innit? usb pass-through [01:15] clint-: qemu has features that vbox doesn't [01:15] good for qemu lol [01:15] I never tried it yet.. sue me [01:15] ^_^ [01:15] clint-: you shall try the qemu [01:15] :P [01:15] ;) [01:15] I really would like to get my css working :( [01:15] clint-: you will read the dox, then use the app, it has lower overhead and emulates more processors [01:16] i guess 2.5 features. usb, rdp, and usb-over-rdp [01:16] really busy right nwo :D [01:16] now [01:16] the last one counts as a .5 feature [01:16] ;) [01:16] maybe debating on getting a 12 core macpro [01:16] ;) [01:16] mancha: right [01:17] but 8 core will do [01:17] mancha: since it just combines the previous two features [01:17] i mean vbox closed vs vbox ose [01:17] hehe, I'll give the vm's... 2 or 4 cores :P [01:17] Action: nyRednek has only one core [01:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] yeah this sys only has 1.. [01:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [01:17] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [01:17] i have an apple core [01:17] I been building.. AMD workstations like crazy [01:17] and doing other stuff.. [01:17] clint-: my core is <500mhz [01:17] programming, thinkpads, openSUSe.. etc.. [01:18] but mentioned earlier.. got 2 mbp's from apple store yest [01:18] for 2 students.. [01:18] dam. :( [01:18] speed is good though nyRednek .. [01:18] thats good for a fw box :P [01:18] clint-: it's my primary machine [01:19] would you all mind testing something for me? [01:19] trying to get some people involved here.. in real time group disussions.. but I need slackware users too hehe [01:19] http://express.paltalk.com/?refc=83235 [01:19] got it running, ... from my box [01:19] well girls box.. used to be mine [01:20] sold some other systems I had.. and this bloke never paid me for this nice, 800 mhz, G4 tower.. silver etc [01:21] ->http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae205/clintburford/?action=view¤t=PowerBookG4151OnDesk-1.jpg&newest=1 [01:21] you can see my VX .. zaltekk [01:22] I actually did a video on it too lol ;P [01:23] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:23] hey though, if any of you slack users are interested, let me know.. [01:23] the whole setup though, and project, is dedicated towards.. openSUSE/ mac os x / slackware/ mandriva, etc.. [01:24] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.151) joined ##slackware. [01:24] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.130.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:25] anyone with powerbooks here eh? [01:25] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:26] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:26] I tell you this too linux_probe , it would be sure nice if there was a techsmith camtasia studio for linux , but theres not.. ;) [01:27] o_O [01:27] also another reason, because with mac os x you see, I can run techsmith, and record the virtual machines and show users how to work in runlevel 3, or whatever in a high quality, video/ audio screencast [01:27] i know about the many recording tools for lin.. and they cannot produce the quaity that ts can [01:27] hmm [01:27] and been using tech smith since 2004 [01:27] since ver 3 [01:28] that was on, win. etc [01:28] %users localhost=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set [01:28] still asks for a password [01:28] am i doing something dumb? [01:30] maco: any idea? [01:31] do you need a (ALL) before NOPASSWD ? [01:31] tried it with and without [01:31] im bad at sudoers syntax. should play with it more [01:31] I'm going to get merlin, genie, peedy etc, and other.s. working in wine :D [01:31] in me filetopia.. ;) [01:33] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:33] tsccof (~tsccof@187.54.185.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:34] I got.. microsoft screen characters working on openSUSE 11.2 via wine.. 1.3 [01:34] :D [01:35] on my filetopia.. client/server.. that I been on since, 2004, and.. also.. supporter.. clint @ filetopia dot com etc [01:35] working on adding this more advance multi cast voice engine, but this is amazing literally, now characters are finally working.. and reading text.. to speech [01:35] google seems to confirm that my syntax is proper... [01:35] hey zaltekk [01:35] isn't that something [01:37] ah, apparently the localhost part is the problem [01:37] although i don't know how it thinks i'm not from localhost [01:37] maybe it means hostname and not a network address [01:38] you can put ALL there [01:39] yeah. that's how i found out it was the problem. putting my hostname worked though [01:39] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.151) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:39] njathan_ (~njathan@203.115.79.183) joined ##slackware. [01:40] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.160) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:40] got Genie working :P [01:40] and I got the rest of them too.. [01:40] muahaha [01:41] OffPlanet (~meler@69.106.186.185) joined ##slackware. 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[02:17] Emanon: README_CRYPT.TXT on the DVD or any mirror [02:18] Slackware contains a lot of documentation worth reading [02:18] didn they make it any less of a hassle in the recent releases, last time i tried was like 12.0 and it was a pain [02:18] i mean more so than most of slackware is a pain :-/ [02:18] no its not, its the same as any distribution. you just have to do all the steps yourself [02:19] all the instructions works if followed correctly and you didn't screw anything else :) [02:20] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] k cause last time it had trouble running encrypted lvm over 4disk raid with /boot and mbr on a memory stick [02:20] and it always works if you dont screw it up its slackware [02:20] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: dormir, carai [02:20] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.151) joined ##slackware. [02:20] its just a lil easier to screw it up than say ubuntu which is retarded toddler easy but you dont get the same kinda geek cred for that cause its like a speak and spell [02:20] Emanon: see REAME_LVM.TXT as well [02:22] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [02:23] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.234) joined ##slackware. [02:23] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:23] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] Akuma (~Akuma@173.179.110.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:24] incidentally im using that speak and spell right now just cause i couldnt get encryption to work on slack hehe [02:25] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:26] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[02:56] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [02:56] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [02:57] Hi. [02:57] Anyone know why firefox takes so long to open up and so long to close? [02:58] chrome is faster [02:59] not that that answers your question [02:59] Hm... [02:59] Might have to do with the fact I have a lot of bookmarks? [03:00] not sure, it's always been slow for me too [03:00] LoreKnore (~LoreKnore@201.86.165.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:00] lfjob, too many extensions? [03:00] you could try making a fresh profile with no bookmarks [03:00] or extensions [03:01] I recall though that the binary isn't optimised on linux, so that could be a reason [03:01] unless that's changed lately [03:01] ;_;... [03:02] I have like 3 extensions so I doubt it. [03:02] no [03:02] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:02] so bookmarks then [03:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [03:03] :'( But I need these bookmarks. [03:04] lfjob, use a service like del.icio.us or something [03:04] I dunno if I wanna make my bookmarks public... [03:04] lfjob, just do as dive mentioned, try a new profile and see if that fixes things, that'll rule out of it's your bookmarks or not. [03:05] i'm sure there's privacy settings [03:05] well chrome and konqueror are both faster [03:05] chrome being fastest [03:06] and you can import your bookmarks [03:06] dive, FF 4.0 beta's are looking good, and faster in my experiences, but of course that can be a ymmv type thing. [03:06] yep [03:10] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:16] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:19] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:20] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-76.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:20] stunix (1000@85.19.141.162) left irc: Quit: When all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll. [03:21] sdi_ (~sdi@111-240-224-101.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Hi. I setup a http server via thttpd in debian for slackware 13.1 installation [03:23] echelon__ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [03:23] but that installer complain kind of errors [03:24] echelon__ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left ##slackware. [03:24] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Disconnected by services [03:24] errors message flip rapidly,I cannot see [03:25] but looks like cannot wget,format errors [03:25] and that thttpd is useable [03:26] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [03:26] I can even wget bzImage while being in ramdisk [03:26] but that installer fail [03:33] huh? [03:35] I mount slackware dvd in loop then 'thttpd -d that-mount-point' [03:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:35] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.151) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [03:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:36] I get this when I want to copy a file:cp: cannot stat `/boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6': No such file or directory / What should I do? [03:37] epapi_ (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [03:37] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Axius: does the file exists at least? :) [03:38] sdi_: switch to a console and use wget manually to see what you get [03:38] s/to a/to another/ [03:38] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-120-87.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:39] Axius: type ls -l /boot/config-gen* and see if you see it listed there [03:41] gbonvehi: /boot/config-generic-2.6.29.6 and /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [03:42] /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp did you copy this by hand? there's an ending -smp there [03:42] there's the error [03:42] What should I do then? [03:43] type the correct name :) you can autocomplete if inside bash by pressing tab [03:43] cp /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp somewhere [03:43] what are you trying to achieve with this? [03:45] gbonvehi: I Want to compile a generic kernel. [03:46] nice, good learning experience :) [03:46] techniq (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] techniq (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:46] gbonvehi: I've tried twice and I've failed. [03:47] don't worry, it happens, if you always keep a booteable kernel around there's no problem at all :) [03:48] ok [03:48] just don't replace your running kernel inside /boot and add a new entry in lilo (or grub) instead of replacing the working one [03:49] How can I see what processor I have? [03:49] cat /proc/cpuinfo [03:49] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:50] thanks [03:51] phe (1000@AToulouse-258-1-42-252.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:58] How can I found out what storage controller I have? [04:01] Antiqua (~phiezer@p5DF463DD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: we are upgrading /dev/null [04:08] gbonvehi:it looks like wget can be done [04:09] did you point the root slack install url to the installer? [04:09] because the md5sum is correct [04:09] to the installer? [04:10] I point the url to my local http server [04:10] i mean, the root of the slackware installation files [04:10] i know, but do not point to the slackaware/ subdir in the url [04:11] No.I didnt. i jsut type http://192.168.1.2 [04:12] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:12] How do I get these error messages? [04:12] Ii cannot find some syslog in var [04:12] they looks like 404 not found [04:13] and file format not recgnized [04:14] stunix (1000@85.19.141.162) joined ##slackware. [04:15] I get this msg when try compiled-in [*] "This futures depends on another wich has been configure as a module" What should I do to compile that module as compiled-in [*]? [04:17] * means compiled-in, M Module, just hit spacebar again [04:18] or press 'm', 'n', or 'y' [04:18] sdi_: never had a trouble with it, i thought syslog would tell you, did you setup the directories as asked correctly? [04:18] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:18] adrien, good point, it all depends on the make mode heh [04:19] I wouldn't advise anyone not to use 'make menuconfig' [04:19] sdi_: iirc, you had to first tell the server to get it from and after that the path [04:20] gbonvehi:what is ur http server?apache? [04:21] i mean have u ever set a local mirror for install [04:21] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [04:21] maybe i should try nfs [04:22] when i type some servers on internet.and it work [04:22] but on my own lan,it failed [04:23] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:23] sdi_: yes, i used apache on another pc [04:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [04:25] but any webserver should work, how's your structure http://192.168.1.2/ ? [04:25] Axius (~fd@92.82.89.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:26] $REMOTE_URL$REMOTE_ROOT/slackware/ that's how the installer fetchs packages [04:26] where remote url and remote root are the variables that you set on the installer screen [04:26] OH [04:26] and wget -q $REMOTE_URL$REMOTE_ROOT/PACKAGES.TXT [04:27] installer fetch ppakg.txt first [04:27] is what it uses to get the packages list [04:29] sdi_: with the packages i just wanted to give you a hint about the structure you need when serving/pointing the installer, it actually does a loop on your selection and all the filtering, that was the relevant part :) [04:30] Morn [04:30] morning Zordrak [04:30] Back at work today [04:30] Has been a nice holiday [04:30] hey Zordrak [04:30] dare to slack! [04:31] Action: Zordrak is wearing his new Slackware t-shirt :) [04:31] :) [04:31] I got one too. [04:31] now I'm wearing a t-shirt with "/dev/null" on it. [04:32] gbonvehi,i see.that installer fail to fetch PACKAGES>TXT on $REMOTE_URL [04:32] I've named my personal website "The definition of /dev/null". [04:32] then it fetch $REMOTE_URL$REMOTE_ROOT/PACKAGES.TXT [04:33] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:33] when i used internet server,it went well [04:33] without complaining fail to fetch [04:33] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Action: surrounder wears a shirt saying: /* No Comment */ [04:34] got it from my work some day :D [04:34] http://stian.atlantiscrew.net/pics/20100416-small.png <-- good morning. [04:34] hehe [04:34] hi all. how can i list all exported folders from an nfsv3 server? [04:34] sdi_: if you access http://192.168.1.2 do you see PACKAGES.TXT ? [04:35] if you do, just set in the installer the remote url to http:/192.168.1.2 and leave the root field blank [04:35] gbonvehi.i do [04:35] land0rz (~land0rz@189.111.89.89) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:36] oo [04:36] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [04:42] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:43] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5E17.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:44] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:46] ashe (~ashe@222.124.117.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:47] gbonvehi.err this time.it said No PACKG.txt found [04:47] oh [04:47] it's 2 slash [04:47] ok now [04:47] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:48] ashe (~ashe@118.96.236.161) joined ##slackware. [04:48] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:49] YES! it's downloading now! [04:49] sdi_: great :) [04:49] what's that magic? [04:50] hm [04:52] i need taking some food. *away* [04:55] fb|jean (~champus@s15224318.onlinehome-server.info) joined ##slackware. [04:56] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [05:05] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [05:06] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:06] epapi_ (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:07] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.212.198) joined ##slackware. [05:08] Can anyone tell me how I go about stopping pidgin from starting up each time I start KDE? I googled it and found that I may have an autostart file in the home directory but it doesn't actually exist [05:08] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:09] Slobad: check your K->System Settings -> Advanced ->Session Manager -> Restore (previous session|manual saved session) settings [05:09] if pidgin was active when you left KDE, it will be restarted [05:10] I always set my desktop to what I want it to show, and set Session Manager to "Restore Manually Saved Sessions" only [05:10] Thanks alisonken1home, that is the setting I have just changed it to [05:10] much obliged [05:10] After selecting Manual Saved Session, then when you K->Leave, there's an option to "Save current desktop" [05:10] sorry - "Save Session" [05:11] That way I have a known-state that my computer will always come up in [05:11] (unless it's from sleep/hibernate, that is :) ) [05:12] DallaRosa (~dalla@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:12] dalla_ (~dalla@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:14] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [05:14] slackytude (~slacky@p4FC73CBC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [05:15] alisonken1home, KDE is taking some getting used to coming from Gnome. The one gripe I have with it is that it takes up a lot of space on my laptop with its panels. I guess it shoudl teach me to have less windows open at any given time [05:19] Slobad: that's why you also have virtual desktops - I have 4 and use most of them when my laptop is travelling, but only 1 or 2 when I'm at the office since I have a second monitor plugged into the laptop [05:21] Desktop switching isn't as Seamless for me with KDE due to controls and I haven't figured out how to stop it flashing the graphic that shows me which Desktop I am on yet. Although the monitor extension is my savior more so than virtual desktops. Don't get me wrong, other than really small things, KDE seems great [05:22] are you talking about the big number/label that pops up when you switch desktops? [05:22] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:23] if so - right click on the pager, select "Configure virtual desktops -> Switching-> unselect "Desktop Switch On-Screen Display" [05:23] alisonken1home, Love you! [05:24] Slobad: don't tell the wife :) [05:24] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:24] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.129) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:32] xwmconfig has been depreciated? Or what? Doesn't seem to work any more. [05:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:32] works fine usr13 [05:33] Oak: Why then does it not change window manager? (When running kdm)? [05:34] what has kdm to do with it? [05:34] Oak: And I've noticed that it has no effect when used during install, (still loads default KDE no matter what you choose). [05:35] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-33-241.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:35] Oak: I do not know that kdm has anything to do with it, only providing detail. [05:36] Oak: xwmconfig seems to be broken. [05:36] Oak: Have you had any luck using it? [05:36] luck has nothing to do with it either. Yes I have used it. It works. [05:36] Oak: If so, what is the secret? [05:37] How long ago did you use it? (Which version of Slackware?) [05:37] u (~u@78.146.1.185) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I know that it's worked in the pased, I've used it too. [05:38] Nick change: u -> Guest13988 [05:38] *past [05:39] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [05:39] try using it in runlevel 3 with startx. it has nothing to do with kdm. [05:40] pete_ (~pete@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:44] slava_dp: Will startx bring up kdm? [05:45] no, it will start X and your chosen WM. [05:46] In other words, when a system has runlevel 4 set as default, xwmconfig has no effect. Correct? [05:46] (you are already logged into the system, no point in running a login manager) [05:46] I feel so. [05:47] pete_ (~pete@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:48] pete` (~user@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:48] slava_dp: I did not ask if there was any point in doing it, I only asked if it would work or not, or have any effect on the system. [05:49] Am I correct in assuming that xwmconfig will only work when used from runlevel 3 or 1 (and not runlevel 4)? [05:50] it will set the default WM used when bringing X via startx. you can set this from any runlevel (as it's just one symlink in /etc/X11/xinit). It will not set a default WM for KDM. [05:52] slava_dp: So it is safe to say that it does not work when using KDM? [05:53] slava_dp: And it will have no effect when used during the install process either, (if you boot to runlevel4 afterwards). [05:54] Correct? [05:54] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) joined ##slackware. [05:56] I understand that slackbook is being re-written as we speak and I suppose something more could be said about xwmconfig in there to let new users know how / when to use xwmconfig. Where it works and where it does not work. [05:56] KillerV (~unlimited@201.17.241.160) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:57] What is wrong with 'man xwmconfig'? [05:57] Does that not give you enough information? [05:59] usr13, yes. it will work for startx (which is assumed to be the default login option for users) and it won't work for KDM (which is it's own manager). [06:00] patrick05 (~chatzilla@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:00] What is wrong with explaining that in slackbook? [06:00] slava_dp: But KDM is the default login manager. [06:00] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [06:00] only if you install KDE [06:01] usr13, pay the author of the book to correct that. why are you demanding stuff? [06:01] and then you still have to select KDM as the manager [06:01] slava_dp: I am not demanding stuff. [06:01] slackbook was a volunteer project. it can't cover all the bases. [06:02] you've got to figure something out by yourself. [06:04] An admin actively changed the Slackware default runlevel. Seems like that admin should have known what all that entails. But sure, a slackbook section on runlevel 4 would not hurt. [06:06] how can I deal with upzipped files being in a gibberish encoding? [06:06] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [06:06] my locale is utf-8 [06:07] skulls (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/skulls) joined ##slackware. [06:10] upzipped? [06:12] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:13] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) joined ##slackware. [06:14] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:15] adrien, as in ''unzip file.zip'' =) [06:18] You can view the directory structure before you unzip, I think it's -l, see unzip -h [06:18] that's exactly what the GUI frontends do, too [06:20] 318464 03-22-2010 11:19 ???-???.doc [06:20] the ??? is an 8-bit encoding [06:29] pete` (~user@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:29] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] man unzip :P [06:29] I think there's an option to reencode filenames [06:33] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [06:34] pete` (~user@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:36] LoreKnore (~LoreKnore@201.86.165.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:37] firefox tells me there is a security update :) [06:42] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [06:43] Guest13988 (~u@78.146.1.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:43] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:47] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:48] u (~u@78.146.1.185) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Nick change: u -> Guest54520 [06:51] Guest54520 (~u@78.146.1.185) left irc: Client Quit [06:51] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [06:57] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.212.198) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:57] pete` (~user@006.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:58] Mowah (~Mowah@c-4084e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[07:09] anyone here that knows if data corruption can occur on a raid array that presumably seems okay? [07:09] mdadm detects no errors, and neither does smartctl [07:11] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.220.147) joined ##slackware. [07:11] raid-5 that is [07:11] on the filesystem level - anytime. [07:11] on the raid level - I doubt it [07:12] have you disabled disk write caches and barriers? [07:12] helps a lot. [07:12] but if a file becomes corrupted on the filesystem level, shouldn't this be detected by the parity data on the raid level? [07:12] Tamerlane (~Tamerlane@69-196-128-41.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Tamerlane (~Tamerlane@69-196-128-41.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:13] slava_dp: i don't have the problem myself, i was just curious [07:13] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-62.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:14] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [07:14] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [07:14] say if i store all my pictures on a raid-5 array, and backup these images to another media, how can I know that the pictures are not corrupt? [07:14] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] I had data corruption on xfs+lvm+mdraid1, because of enabled disk write caches. when the system had resets (for various reasons), a mysql db got corrupted. [07:14] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:14] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [07:14] I disabled caches as per adrien's suggestion, and all is well now. [07:15] v3gard, implement md5 checking? :-) [07:16] md5checking doesn't return the original image if they first become corrupt :) [07:16] perhaps using .par-files would help? like usenet? [07:16] I'm not familiar with par files. [07:17] backups should help though :-) [07:18] thing is: you won't have any corruption unless you have disk write caches enabled and you have power outages, or if there are bugs in the kernel fs/raid code. no other reason. [07:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:18] and you don't have a working ups [07:18] or a hardware fault [07:18] slava_dp: ok, that makes sense [07:19] true ups - not one of those relay things [07:19] luckily i have a ups :) [07:19] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [07:19] oh yeah, hardware can also introduce silent corruption on your data. [07:19] phear your hardware! :) [07:19] but at least with Linux at least it's a true hardware failure [07:20] hopefully smartctl should warn me of any hardware issues with my disk drives [07:20] not like MS pseudo hardware failure [07:20] actually, ram issues come to mind rather than drive smart failures [07:20] hardware doesn't only mean disks. the PSU, the chipset can go mad, anything. [07:20] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [07:21] slava_dp: hmm.. didn't think about that [07:21] so i could risk having a corrupt raid array if my psu breaks, since that would circumvent the ups [07:22] that too. [07:22] redundant psu's exist for a reason [07:23] yep [07:23] RAID does not guarantee data integrity. RAID only guarantees uptime. [07:24] what is the safest backup media then? tapes? [07:24] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:24] safest is DVD's [07:24] at least for 10 years [07:25] tapes are pretty expensive these days pr MB compared to disk drives though [07:25] and not DVDRW [07:25] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:26] this article is an example of silent hardware data corruption (and how checksumming uncovered it): http://blogs.sun.com/constantin/entry/zfs_saved_my_data_right [07:27] http://www.mam-a.com/ <-- these guys claim their dvd's will last a hundred years.. [07:29] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:30] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) joined ##slackware. [07:31] yeah, sure... [07:32] archcezar (1000@absp89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:32] I have family photos on some "archival grade" dvd's, but I am going to rewrite them every ~10 years. [07:32] thanks for your insight guys [07:32] really appreciate it [07:32] slava_dp: interesting.. btrfs would be the linux alternative for zfs, right? [07:32] the 10 years is just the recommended lifespan of dvd [07:32] feinom, it is one. [07:33] feature-wise. speed-wise, ext4 is no slower. [07:33] archcezar (1000@dhn197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:34] does ext4 do checksumming? [07:34] no, it doesn't. [07:35] can I unplug my internal SATA HDD and pull it out (unmounted) without needing to turn my computer off? [07:35] depends [07:35] KaMii, I would say no. depends on your motherboard support. [07:35] sata hot unplug should do it but it's not always well supported [07:35] ya, i didnt think so either [07:35] I can, a friend of mine can't [07:35] i just dont want to reboot it [07:36] Action: slava_dp unplugs adrien's drive [07:36] hahaha [07:36] 0wned [07:37] slava_dp: ='( [07:38] slava_dp: well, I'm sure the raid1 will survive _one_ unplug ;p [07:38] hrm.... computer is having a tough time shutting down, that bad HDD is stuck on the umount command during the shutdown process [07:38] KaMii: well, you can _try_ , nothing guaranteed :P [07:38] waaaaiiiiiitttt [07:38] Action: KaMii is patient [07:39] you sure it's not windows? Windows always takes ages to turn itself off [07:40] dont be a troll WildWizard [07:41] sarcasm != trolling [07:44] its not rebooting, im stuck on it trying to unmount the bad HDD [07:44] 2 drives including root are still mounted [07:45] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:46] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [07:49] three finger salute got it to reboot [07:51] try sysrq next time [07:56] other than slackbook, are there any slackware specific books I could flick through? I have read through the slackbook and understand all that. I would just like to move onto something a little "heavier" now. [07:56] WildWizard (michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [07:57] oh, _bad_ hdd? [07:57] slava_dp++ [07:57] Slobad: typically, the rest of it is standard *nix admin stuff - so time to start looking at sysadmin/apache/mysql/postgresql/.... books [07:57] Slobad: what kind of "heavier"? slackbook covers most things, there aren't that many things to fiddle with [07:58] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFA50.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] alisonken1lap, I think that makes sense. [07:59] slackbook and wiki's that are slackware specific are pretty much all that's already out there that's _just_ slackware specific [07:59] adrien, Wondered if there was more. I am happy plodding along with Slackware now but wondered if there was more I should know that is Slackware specific. If the answer is not really, then fair enough. [07:59] Slobad, try the "linux administrator's handbook" by evi nemeth and othere [07:59] and others. it's awesome. [08:00] I just feel like there must be more. Slackware is "supposed" to be hard from what I was told. The fact that I am working on it without any problems makes me wonder what there is that I don't know that I should be doing :-D [08:00] Slackware just... works? WHAT?! [08:00] slackware is not complex at all [08:00] which means there aren't many things to know ;-) [08:00] Slobad: gotta love the KISS principle [08:00] I would also suggest those small linux command reference books. they taught me a lot. [08:02] adrien, I was so shocked. I don't know anyone locally who uses slackware - they are all fedora users and were showing me the fedora way of doing things. It doesn't seem bad... but I wanted something with transferable knowledge. I thought I would learn a lot from Slackware to get it working from the get go.. but it was working already :-) [08:02] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [08:02] Will be easier to learn how and why it is doing what it is doing though by the looks of things... not having loads of additional crap getting in the way of me knowing what is going on [08:02] fedora users, bah :p [08:03] =) [08:03] fedora/redhat/centos use the redhat way, debian/ubuntu the debian way of doing stuff [08:03] slackware is just... well...clear :P [08:04] Fedora and CentOS arent bad though :x [08:04] this all sounds too academic, linux isn't a research paper [08:04] but it can be :) [08:05] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:05] it is an OS. the purpose is to allow your hardware to run the applications you need to achieve your goals. [08:05] Slobad, sounds like you made a good choice, congrats. [08:06] Action: thrice` likes fedora [08:06] :D [08:06] don't really care for it that much, like RHEL though since I had a RHCE course [08:06] if you expected something entirely different in slackware (vs other linuxes) then maybe you bought into some false hype. [08:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:07] mancha: that one I didnt understand ._. [08:07] Roin: linux = linux, mainly [08:08] oh ok [08:08] it just seems from Slobad's comments that he expected something 100% different in slackware [08:08] I started with and stayed with Slackware, and indeed the knowledge is transferable. In due time you will begin to understand the RedHatisms and Debianisms for what they are. [08:08] mancha: the difference is the gui stuff and home-brew admin stuff that fedora/RH (among others) put on their linux systems that make it seem different [08:10] alison, no question, there *are* differences. if there weren't then picking a distrib wouldn't even be a decision. [08:10] and people would not be able to have favorites (like my personal liking of slackware) [08:10] less fragmentation would've been nice though (imho) [08:11] maybe, though it can also breed healthy competition [08:11] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:11] then linux would be more like windows - wait, how many windows SKU's are there again? [08:11] SKU? :( [08:12] like ski but with a 'u' [08:12] -.- [08:12] well, it doesn't help in the acceptance of linux on the average desktop (something I'm not for anyhow, mainly of because of the fragmentation) [08:14] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5E17.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [08:19] i hadn't even known about the facebook clickjacking fiasco until i read the ff 3.6.9 changelog that specifically mentioned anti-clickjacking measures [08:20] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:21] Action: adrien doesn't know about that either [08:22] apparently you can create invisible frames that are on top of what the user thinks he is clicking [08:22] thereby, your click was hijacked, or clickjacked [08:23] highclicked [08:25] mancha: ah, ok, I had actually seen that a few months ago but didn't know about facebook's crap [08:26] phrag: ping, and pm? [08:26] adrien: you didn't know that facebook was crap? [08:26] crapbook [08:26] oh, I did, I didn't know about that one thing was on facebook ;-) [08:27] btw, I had read something about clickjacking with flash [08:28] http://www.sophos.com/blogs/sophoslabs/?p=9783 [08:29] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:30] I think it was done with ads too [08:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:38] saavedra29 (~slaris@ppp-94-64-138-161.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:40] flambaz (~flambers@unaffiliated/flambers) joined ##slackware. [08:40] hello, i have an external monitor in my laptop and want to activate it in spesific resolution when the kde starts and diactivate the laptop's monitor [08:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:43] sdi_ (~sdi@111-240-224-101.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:43] also as more tools come about, slackware becomes easier to "get working". for example, the arrival if wicd (and now netman) greatly simplified wireless setups for people [08:43] *of wicd [08:43] netman? [08:44] saavedra29 (~slaris@ppp-94-64-138-161.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: ‘À¿ÇÎÁ·Ãµ [08:44] yrgd (~yrgd@c-98-235-44-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:44] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:45] Br4inP4in (~Br4inP4i@pD95F95BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [08:45] latemus (~m@72.8.65.180) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:45] adrien, he meant NetworkManager. [08:47] ah [08:48] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [08:48] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:50] gabriel__ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Can anyone else using KDE4.5 confirm that when you right click on the titlebar --> Configure Window Behavior, the control module opens up in the "window decorations" section even though "desktop effects" is selected? [08:55] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:56] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:57] adamk: then go down to "Windows" or "Actions" icon on the left [08:57] but yeah, it goes to the generic kde control module [08:58] Well, yeah, I know how to select a different module... It just seems like if you're going to select "desktop effects" by default, as it does, it should show the desktop effects panel. [08:59] And then if you actually want to see the desktop effects panel, you have to select a different module first and then select desktop effects again. [08:59] adamk, yes same here with 4.5.1 [09:00] I'm really not impressed with this release. [09:00] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-10-33.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:01] pete_ (~pete@017.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-120-87.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:04] Action: slava_dp stays on 4.4.4 :) [09:06] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.220.147) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:06] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-10-33.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:07] gabriel__ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:08] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [09:09] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-83-34.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. 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[09:25] judging from the nasty kwin graphics bugs, maybe not too many devs ventured in to the desktop effects menu ;) [09:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:26] Heh... Yeah, could be. [09:28] seems like alot of people are struggling with kwin on 4.5 [09:28] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:28] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [09:28] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:28] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:29] skulls (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/skulls) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:30] m00p (~topcat@212.150.147.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:30] kwin works alright here, other than this new window decoration that 4.5 seems to ship with but is really flaky. [09:30] adamk: using fglrx? 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[09:55] does anyone use any other $PAGER for viewing man pages? i wanted to try using 'mcview' so i could use mouse scroll wheel but 'man' fails after that [09:56] most more less [09:56] maybe [09:56] most here [09:57] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:57] here also [09:57] does most support mousewheel? [09:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:57] don't know.. [09:57] yep seems to [09:58] hmm doesnt seem to under slackware 12.x [09:58] it's a bit unintuitive though to use mouse in a console imo at least [09:59] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] less works with a mousewheel in konsole. [10:01] so it depends on your terminal emulator. [10:02] works in xfce terminal too, but not in xterm. [10:02] BlackFate (~asd@unaffiliated/blackfate) joined ##slackware. [10:02] works in urxvt it seems [10:03] also less too [10:03] I have a slight mystery I'm trying to solve. When I run powernowd from the console as root, it works fine. But if I put it in rc.local, it dosen't get run with the arguments I supplied. Any idea what might be going on? [10:03] ok thanks for the tip slava_dp. i tried a different terminal emulator and 'less' works now [10:04] w/ mwheel [10:04] Slaxy, any errors? [10:04] i was using 'konsole' and it wasnt working [10:05] dive: no errors, everything looks good, but I can tell from the scaling that it didnt get run with the params [10:05] what's the command line you're using? [10:05] as it's written in rc.local [10:05] /usr/sbin/powernowd -s 1000000 [10:06] iv also tried echo "/usr/sbin/powernowd -s 1000000" |sh neither worked [10:07] not sure then [10:07] I use it on one of my notebooks but without args [10:08] where are you starting it? [10:08] rc.local [10:08] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:08] hmmm... [10:08] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:08] is rc.local the last script root runs at boot? [10:08] afaik yes [10:09] so you're saying it does actually start, just ignores args? [10:09] Slaxy, try redirecting it. powernowd .... >/dev/null 2>&1 [10:09] just ignores args [10:09] it might be crashing [10:09] and you see the powernod messages in the console when you boot? [10:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:09] slava_dp: Ill give it a shot [10:10] slava_dp: wait... its not crashing cause I see it in top [10:10] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [10:10] no idea then. [10:10] dive: I belive I have seen it at boot, but either way I see it in top after boot [10:12] very curious.... what I have been doing is killing it after boot, and restarting it with the args. [10:12] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:13] very strange [10:15] could powerdevel in KDE be affecting it? [10:15] possibly [10:15] you shouldn't probably run both [10:16] herbz (kat@tokes.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:16] I thought powerdevel handles battery and screen too. Could I turn it off without problems? [10:17] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.178) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:17] doesn't powerdevil have something to do with performance - aka cpu speed? [10:18] in addition [10:19] to be honest I would just use one or the other [10:19] and if you are in kde mostly, kill powernowd [10:21] without powernowd, my cpu scalling between cpu1 and 2 flip flop between 525 and 2100, at idle. with powernowd at idle both cpu's remain at 525. I sort of like that. [10:22] pete_ (~pete@017.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:22] if you stop using powerdevil it obviously won't be able to control screen brightness on battery so you'll have to do that manually [10:23] Im guessing that powernowd is starting, then KDE powerdevel is kicking in and resetting the cpu scaling. What if I put sleep 30 prior to the powernowd in rc.local, so that powernowd starts after powerdevel? [10:23] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:23] that will just cause rc.local to hang for 30 secs [10:23] is there a way to query powerdevil? [10:23] turn off powerdevil and try it [10:24] you won't miss much [10:24] apparently with upowerd you can do "upower -d" to find out if it thinks the lid is open or closed. wondering if there's a way to do that with powerdevil [10:25] maco, maybe using qdbus or something. Not sure but #kde would be a good place to ask. [10:25] ok [10:26] thanks maco, I'll look into that aslo. If you come accross anything, pleas let me know [10:27] if there was a sleep 30 in rc.local, would that hang the boot process until it'd done? [10:27] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host62-215-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host62-215-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [10:27] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [10:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:29] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:30] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:30] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:30] bbl [10:30] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:31] he'll be back in $BOOT_TIME + 30 secs [10:32] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:35] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:41] miss_prenses (adonis@41.236.13.24) joined ##slackware. [10:42] why, just background it :-/ [10:43] { sleep 30; powernowd .... ; } & [10:44] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] better off turning off powerdevil imo because it will just cause problems if he goes to battery or vice versa [10:46] I try to install dwm and I get this errors:/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:3566: error: parameter name omitted [10:46] dwm.c:2018: error: expected '{' at end of input [10:46] make: *** [dwm.o] Error 1 [10:47] sleep 30 before powernowd in rc.local seems to have done the trick. Im remoting in, so I dont know if its delaying the boot process or not, or any other adverse affects. I can see that my cpu's remain at 525 at idle, instead of flip floping between 525 and 2100 like before. [10:47] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:47] why, just background it :-/ [10:47] { sleep 30; powernowd .... ; } & [10:47] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [10:47] Slaxy, ^^\ [10:48] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [10:48] slava_dp: yes but without the & powernowd runs in bg by default [10:48] but sleep runs in the foreground. [10:48] slava_dp, you're remoting it? Is this not a desktop machine? [10:48] oops [10:48] slaxy ^^^ [10:49] dive: yes remoting in, its a laptop [10:49] then why run X on it? [10:49] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:49] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) joined ##slackware. [10:50] dive: not sure I get what your saying [10:51] you're only ssh'ing into it now, but you do actually sit at it sometimes? Or not? [10:52] dive: yes sshing now, and usually sit at it. [10:52] ok [10:52] you could also vnc to it :-) [10:52] slava_dp: I'll add the {}& good point. [10:53] well as I said I think that powerdevil will cause other problems if it's running. Like if you go to battery and back it will probably kick in and take over from powernowd again. [10:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) joined ##slackware. [10:53] slava_dp: vnc was actually my next project. what is a good vnc server? [10:53] Slaxy, beware of the syntax. { command; command2; } & [10:54] slava_dp: got it. thanks [10:54] Slaxy, tightvnc is ok (in extra/), tigervnc is the latest development (alien has just packaged it) [10:56] I was looking for tightvnc the other day in slackbuilds but couldn't find it. didn't realize it was in extras/ [10:56] yeah, some stuff is there. [10:57] miss_prenses (adonis@41.236.13.24) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:57] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [10:57] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:57] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [10:57] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:58] tightvnc for linux is no longer made by the way. tigervnc should be the faster one (haven't tried yet) [10:59] slackytude (~slacky@p4FC73CBC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:59] ill give tigervnc a whirl [10:59] x11vnc is great for sharing the primary X display. you may try that too. [11:00] other vnc's act like terminal servers mainly. [11:00] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:02] Axius (~fd@92.84.6.98) joined ##slackware. [11:02] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-80-119.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:05] v4nelle (~van@79.107.199.0) joined ##slackware. [11:08] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:08] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:12] Any openvpn/iptables gurus want to give me a hand? [11:13] I'm trying to setup an encrypted tunnel between two networks a few thousand miles apart. [11:13] The tunnel initializes and works fine, but I can't route arbitrary traffic over it. [11:14] Or rather, when I attempt to route arbitrary traffic over it, the client sends the packets out tun0, but the server never sees them. tcpdump confirms this. [11:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-178-254-204.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [11:17] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:20] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A6AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-178-254-204.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:22] hmm, logs? [11:24] Nevermind, I fixed it. [11:24] I had to do two -j MASQUERADEs and a -j DNAT [11:24] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Alan_Hicks, btw, why did you pick openvpn? [11:30] I get some errors while trying to compile a dwm.SackBuild package. This is the error:dwm.c:2018: error: expected '{' at end of input [11:31] nachox: why not? works fine and easy to setup [11:31] nachox: Much easier to work with than different ipsec implimentations, easy NAT traversal, better platform support than alternatives, very stable, very fast. [11:32] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [11:32] nachox: Any other questions? :-) [11:32] i hate openvpn :P [11:32] with passion [11:33] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-17-3.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [11:33] Why? [11:33] and this error too:/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:3566: error: parameter name omitted [11:33] I hope you documented this somewhere, no doubt others might find that information useful. [11:33] when it works its nice, when it doesnt, its almost impossible to debug [11:33] erik: Document this? HAHAHAHAHAHA [11:34] Alan_Hicks: yuck. There should never be any need for NAT over a VPN. [11:34] nachox: I've never had issues with debugging. The console and error logs have always been very informative. [11:34] dngr (~dngr@n11649134056.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:34] Alan_Hicks, i had endless problems with openvpn on windows [11:34] rob0: Yes well, I don't control the firewalls at either location, the openvpn servers are on different VLANs from the destination ESX servers, and there was just no other way to do it. [11:35] Anyone has an idea why I get this error::/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:3566: error: [11:35] Axius: What are you trying to do? [11:36] < Axius> I get some errors while trying to compile a dwm.SackBuild package. ... [11:36] My bad. [11:36] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Alan_Hicks: I try to compile dwm.SlackBuild. [11:37] Axius: Where di you get this SlackBuild script? [11:37] Where did you get this slackbuild [11:37] dwm hasn't been updated since 13.0 [11:37] Heh. [11:37] From slackbuilds.org [11:37] Are you using the version of slackware the build was submitted for? [11:38] I use a package for Slack 13.0. [11:38] Right... That doesn't answer my question, though :-) [11:38] and which version do you run? [11:38] Are you using that version of slackware? [11:39] adamk: yes [11:39] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: reboot [11:40] Axius (fd@92.84.6.98) left ##slackware. [11:40] Errr. [11:41] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [11:41] Should we take bets on whether or not he really was using 13.0? [11:42] should have got him to cat /etc/*versio* [11:42] dive: yes [11:43] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.128.223) joined ##slackware. [11:43] j0z (unix@200.146.6.189.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:43] j0z (unix@200.146.6.189.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [11:43] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Simple /exec -out cat /etc/slackw* [11:43] shadowx (~7350@singularity.darknetx.eu) joined ##slackware. [11:44] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:46] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A53A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Is there anything like a mini smtp server (ssmtp for example) that has been ported to Slackware? [11:49] kleanchap: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/msmtp/ [11:49] Not sure if that's what you're looking for though. What areyour needs? 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[11:53] rob0, maybe but in my case I need to run sendmail normally for local mail and have a different system for sending out [11:53] hence using msmtp with mutt [11:54] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:54] john_dee (~id@95-29-146-62.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:54] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] Alan_Hicks, Yes msmtp does what I need to do. [11:55] Thanks [11:55] this came about because my ISP is a bit sucky with smtp [11:57] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:01] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:07] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [12:09] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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Will it work in 13.1 w/o rebuilding? [12:23] yes, yes, maybe [12:23] yes, no, maybe? [12:23] :) [12:23] maybe, maybe, maybe [12:23] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [12:23] yes, that's what it does; it requires a multi-lib system though, and it might work without rebuilding [12:23] ... [12:24] multilib required? [12:24] hi, on my Slackware 13.1, Kolourpaint takes too much time to load. I am in XFCE. I opened it from terminal and I ma getting this: QClipboard: Unable to receive an event from the clipboard manager in a reasonable time Starting KolourPaint on a 24-bit screen... [12:25] What for? nspluginwrapper is 64. Why would it need that? [12:26] to run a 32bit plugin on a 64bit system [12:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:27] john_dee, how do you think it talks to a 32-bit shared object file? [12:27] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] :\ [12:27] Well, yeah. You right [12:27] No go then. ty [12:27] it works fine here [12:27] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Well, I'm tempted..but I won't install compat32 for Adobe's rotten flesh :E [12:29] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [12:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:29] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:29] john_dee, try gnash [12:31] ScreamerX: Is there a slackbuild? [12:31] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=gnash&sv=13.1 [12:32] I was going to submit one but it works terrible for me :/ [12:32] No results [12:32] dive: How terrible? I don't want to even touch it? [12:32] stuttering and freezing [12:32] Ugh [12:32] well that was 32 bit, maybe 64 is better [12:33] I woudn't count on that %) [12:33] Well, guess I'll get my hands on multilib after all [12:33] I find it funny people still search for a nice flash solution [12:34] Considering the amount of content [12:34] It would be nice to have [12:34] But, yeah. Seems like good and flash do not mix [12:35] it's rough, but one needs to remove it and learn to live without :> [12:35] :) [12:35] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:36] I tried for a week [12:36] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] It's addictive stuff %) [12:39] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) joined ##slackware. [12:39] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:39] And there are no alternatives [12:39] Gnash, moonlight etc don't count apparently [12:40] Azalyn_ (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Due to being sh*t [12:40] :\ [12:40] john_dee, they might have updated gnash since I tested it [12:41] try it and let me know [12:41] Shoot, mom, I said shoot :D [12:41] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: take care... [12:42] dive: Got a slackbuild left? [12:42] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:42] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A6AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:42] hmmm dunno [12:42] I'll look [12:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-56-215.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:43] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [12:43] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.128.223) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:43] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:45] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-179-192.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] john_dee, this is what I have from a few weeks back http://www.dawoodfall.net/sources/gnash.tar.gz [12:46] might be worth looking for updated source [12:46] hmm hang on a sec [12:48] ok now grab it [12:48] had to change tag [12:48] dive: Thanks. I'll give a try [12:49] More like regrab :) [12:49] What tag should be there? [12:49] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:49] daw [12:49] Okie [12:49] not SBo or I will be shot, gutted and hung out to dry with crows picking at my eye balls [12:50] Man, that's one long configure [12:50] but it looks like 0.8.8 is the latest version - you may have better luck grabbing git [12:50] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] john_dee, also you need agg from sbo installed [12:51] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.19) left ##slackware. [12:51] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:52] Ugh. Dependency hell [12:52] no not really [12:52] just that one [12:52] I desperately need sbopkg [12:52] mind you, what _that_ needs I don't recall [12:54] omg they killed kenny! [12:55] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:55] john_dee, yeah really, install sbopkg. It makes searching for deps so much easier. [12:56] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-114.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:01] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-124-114.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:02] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [13:06] vnc up and running! woohoo. couldn't figure how to get win vncviewer at work to use a socks proxy. needed to use SocksCap. works great! [13:07] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-17-46.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Whatever _that_ needed I had [13:09] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:09] Whee! [13:09] sbopkg++ [13:09] :D [13:09] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:09] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:10] As soon as it learns to automatically build queues, I'll be happy %) [13:10] Action: john_dee ducks [13:11] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:11] handle dependencies automatically would be nice :) [13:11] ++ [13:11] At least optionally [13:12] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-17-46.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:12] Chance of that happening is almost zero. :P [13:12] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) joined ##slackware. [13:12] )-: [13:12] Let us dream at least :) [13:12] whats bad with dependencies? [13:13] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-98-83.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Uhoh [13:13] It ruins the simplicity. :P [13:13] This is a sensitive topic around here ;) [13:14] even *bsd handles dependencies automatically [13:15] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:15] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:15] I've already asked the admins about this, not happenoing [13:15] NaCl: I wouldn't say. It's still same slackbuilds and queues. Just another fucntion [13:15] parsing english is hard. :P [13:15] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:16] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [13:16] lol [13:16] guys, try http://gitorious.org/sbopkg-slackware-queues [13:16] works great [13:16] sbopkg can't do it unless alackbuilds.org start using slack-required or similar [13:16] because someone went through everything. :p [13:16] yeah [13:16] Well, then the world is waiting for a brave coder with strong shell-fu to do it %) [13:17] naw. [13:17] You need language-parsing foo [13:17] *fu [13:17] sbopkg can't do it unless alackbuilds.org start using slack-required or similar [13:17] slackbuilds even [13:17] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [13:17] dive, true [13:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] unless that's done no coding in the world is going to help [13:18] slack-required is not biggie [13:19] as far as I'm concerned, it wouldn't do it anyway - and the chance of SBo doing that is thankfully about 0, too. [13:19] NaCl: For parsing what? [13:19] the problem is dep1 dep2 dep3 and dep1 needs dep1a dep1b etc [13:19] the slack-what-you-want field is a Slack field :) [13:19] The dependency list in README [13:19] Is not structured as I would like [13:20] Ah, yes [13:20] Action: john_dee is somwhat tired :\ [13:20] well nobody has made any hard and fast rules on how to write dep info in README [13:20] everyone has their own methods [13:21] This requires , and , and optionally [13:21] a file called "slack-required" would be nice for dependencies :-) [13:22] as slava_dp cited, as far as Mauro's concerned, maybe it would - and he's already automated that pretty much at gitorious. If that doesn't satisfy folks then... [13:23] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:24] slakmagik, would be nice if sbopkg downloaded the updated queues after every SBo update :-) I would imagine that's the plan. [13:25] Certain things just require too much stuff [13:25] e.g. gparted [13:25] requires 4 different things [13:25] in series [13:25] how about ffmpeg. [13:25] slava_dp: hm? The gitorious queues? That's an entirely separate project [13:25] some 10 or 12 things. [13:25] which means you ahve to go backwards each and every time [13:25] That gitorius thing is nice [13:26] or take ZoneMinder. takes around 15 deps ;-) [13:27] including ffmpeg by the way [13:27] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [13:27] And it doesn't require changing slackbuild's structure or anything [13:27] It wouldn't need to [13:28] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Ray-Ban [13:30] sinuhe (~sinuhe@70.102.147.30) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Nick change: Ray-Ban -> BiCHiTo [13:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-98-83.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:36] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [13:36] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-179-192.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:37] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-56-225.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Handy tool [13:44] Great for installing stuff [13:45] But updating and otherwise managing that zoo will be whole story :] [13:47] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [13:51] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:53] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:53] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:57] MadneX (~Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [14:01] john_dee, we should be grateful that we have SBo. life would have been a lot tougher with the old approach of 'everyone builds his own stuff'. [14:01] Axius (~fd@109.97.46.117) joined ##slackware. [14:02] at least we have QA on the SBo packages now. [14:02] Action: slava_dp bows to slackbuilds.org admin crew. [14:04] I get this error when I try to compile a pkg:/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:3566: error: parameter name omitted / Does anyone seen that error before? [14:05] Axius, what does 'cat /etc/*versio*' output? [14:05] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] slava_dp: Tell me about it %) I've looked (and now use on daily basis) into other distros numerous times because I don't really need to build stuff. I'd prefer to have them ready to run asap instead [14:06] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-179-192.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:07] them==apps [14:07] But, yeah, existence of SBo is highly appreciated :D [14:08] dive: Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [14:08] Axius, I would perhaps email the maintainer [14:08] Axius: make sure you have a full install [14:08] and that [14:09] dive, 13.0 repo is no longer updated. [14:09] I have the some problem when I want to compile wine slackbuilds package. [14:09] Axius, upgrade to 13.1. [14:09] slava_dp, I know but the original maintainer might know why [14:09] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Axius: it would help to know what app you are talking about [14:11] slava_dp: I've tried to but 13.1 it's worst. [14:11] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: tltstc [14:11] pprkut: I try to compile dwm. [14:11] You didn't happen to install anything that might have overwritten the Xlib.h file that came with slackware 13.0? [14:12] sushiyant (hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [14:12] This the file:http://dpaste.com/240601/ [14:12] adamk: quick q for you, has the radeon driver sorted out the artifacting while scrolling thing yet? [14:13] 13.1 is much better than 13.0 was. at least in terms of new KDE, that's totally better. [14:13] adamk: How can see if it's overwritten Xlib.h. [14:14] slava_dp: I have tried 13.1 and I have problems with KBS. [14:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-179-192.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:15] slava_dp: I dont use kde. [14:15] eviljames: Hmm? I've only seen that on FreeBSD, only with KDE4, and not consistently. [14:15] Axius: grep the files in /var/log/packages for Xlib.h would work. [14:15] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] ah, the Kernel Barrel Stuffing.... [14:15] have i lost my mind? [14:16] ssh lotec25@blackknight.myftp.org:1722 [14:16] that does not work [14:16] what am i missing [14:16] adamk: I see it pretty regularly in slack-current (not sure how up to date I am) xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 [14:16] ssh -p 1722 ..... [14:16] eviljames: Odd. I just updated to -current over the weekend, and then the KDE4.5 packages, but I don't remember seeing it at all. [14:16] adamk: typically in Firefox or Okular, yes under KDE4.4.5 [14:16] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:17] oh digikam is brutally affected as well. [14:17] eviljames, I have artifacts on radeon. [14:17] kde 4.4.4 [14:17] slava_dp: afaict it's a driver level issue, and it really grinds my gears [14:18] yeah, it's not very pretty to look at. [14:18] Are you guys using KMS? [14:18] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [14:18] nope [14:18] Hmmm.. Maybe that's the difference, then, since I am. [14:18] Pretty sure I am. [14:18] And, in fact, on FreeBSD, where I see the problem, KMS doesn't work at all. [14:18] Oh. [14:18] Or not. [14:19] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [14:19] kms is required for DRI2 on radeon as it is on intel? [14:19] Yes. [14:19] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable <- nope, I'm not on kms [14:19] is it? I should try enabling kms. [14:20] Slaxy (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:22] I get a radeon-related kernel crash on system startup by the way. a backtrace is printed. I wasn't motivated enough to investigate. has been there since slack 13.0. the card is radeon 9100 (old and stupid :) ) [14:23] I've had an nvidia card in that box for a while, there was no crash any more. but then the nvidia card died (what a pity), and this same radeon went back inside. [14:23] Axius (~fd@109.97.46.117) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:24] adamk: Shouldn't kms be enabled by default on recent kernels for radeon? [14:24] No. I don't believe they've made that switch yet. [14:24] what im doing wrong ? [14:24] ahh, boot prompt/tunable then? [14:25] for years it was hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda2 noinitrd [14:25] and then i was able to reinstall my lilo in MBR [14:25] it's changed with new slack version [14:25] eviljames: Check the Xorg update thread on the slackware section of linuxquestions. There's package you need to install with firmware. [14:25] can someone update me with new way ? [14:25] eviljames: Then you can enable it with 'radeon.modeset=1' to the kernel. [14:25] eviljames: I *think* everything else is KMS ready on current. [14:26] maybe it should be now initrd=no ? [14:26] dagni: slackware or slackware64? [14:27] pprkut: slackware32 [14:27] dagni, the dvd boot prompt says the right line. read carefully. [14:27] slava_dp: it says hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1 initrd= ro [14:27] so that would work then. [14:27] initrd= means no initrd ? [14:28] it should. [14:28] it does not [14:28] all i see after i type it [14:28] is tmpfs [14:28] no partitions mounted [14:28] if initrd= is in lilo.conf, it needs to see an initrd or it dies [14:28] if you don't have an initrd, then remove that line completely [14:28] and ro should be on a line by itself [14:28] bbl [14:28] it's not about lilo [14:29] alisonken1home, you're confusing stuff [14:29] adamk: thanks for the tips [14:29] i mean not about lilo.conf [14:29] sorry - mixed up conversations, my bad [14:29] adamk, thanks also. will go read. [14:29] yes you mixed it [14:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:29] I'm a couple of hours past my bedtime :) [14:30] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) joined ##slackware. [14:31] ok [14:31] again [14:31] pault_ (~pault@92.17.93.255) joined ##slackware. [14:31] alisonken1home: dude it's 11 am in the only time zone that matters: PDT [14:31] how i can boot my linux from slack dvd [14:31] as i dont have correct lilo entry [14:31] i need to re-install the lilo in MBR [14:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:32] eviljames: I work graveyard - so tz's are just a figament of imagination to me :) [14:32] and for years it was simple, why the hell they changed it [14:32] hugesmp.s root=/dev/your_root initrd= ro [14:32] nothing has changed, afaict [14:32] dagni: boot the dvd, and READ CAREFULLY what it says on the screen about emergency booting your disk [14:32] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:33] eviljames: when i type what you provide, it leave me with devtmpfs and no partitions are mounted [14:33] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:34] dagni: boot the dvd straight, cfdisk your hard drive and see which partition reminds you should be root, mount that partition and check your /mnt/etc/fstab to remind you even more what partition is your root [14:34] then you can pass the correct "root=/your/root/partition" [14:35] dagni : hda1 might be sdb1 or something like that [14:35] Wasn't there some issues aroudn the 13.0 mark about /dev/hda vs /dev/sda (that is, moving to the new tools?) [14:35] ognian: hah great minds think alike :D [14:35] ;) [14:35] my root partition is /dev/sda2 [14:36] eviljames : I think that similar minds think alike ; them being great is optional :D [14:36] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [14:36] not issues - read the changelog and you'll see when they changed libata to show that /dev/hdX has been changed to /dev/sdX [14:36] ognian: Typically the corollary is that "fools seldom differ" :P [14:36] that is clear i know what is my root partition, i typed as eviljames said and i have kernel panic "perhaps you should see init= bla bla bla" [14:36] hmm [14:36] 'try passing init= option to the kernel' [14:36] did you use hugesmp.s or genericsmp.s - or are you trying to boot the 64-bit slackware on a 32-bit only system? [14:36] thats the exact message [14:37] hugesmp.s and im on 32bit [14:39] sorry all [14:39] my fault [14:39] it was /dev/sda1 i forgot i switched partitions [14:40] hahahahahahahahahahahhaah [14:40] sorry dude, but that was a bonehead move :P [14:40] you can also boot the dvd directly (for the future) and fdisk -l and chroot into your system. easier than recalling what partition your slack is on. [14:41] ;F [14:42] ginkgo biloba also helps [14:44] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:45] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.243.140) joined ##slackware. [14:46] has anyone used the virtual box slackbuild and got it all working? [14:46] I just used vbox-closed. [14:47] edthix (ed@175.144.230.78) left ##slackware. [14:47] eviljames, were you having trouble with using the slackbuild? [14:48] Slobad: what's the issue? [14:48] hackeron (~hackeron@109-170-137-116.xdsl.murphx.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] When i start virtualbox from the terminal, it tells me that it won't work until i have compiled the vboxdrv. I am unsure where I get this module and how I then load it to get VirtualBox to work [14:50] http://www.slackbuilds.org/apps/virtualbox-kernel/ , whatever's teh appropriate one for you [14:51] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BBFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] Slobad: you might just have missed the rc.vboxdrv setup step. [14:51] and/or rc.vboxdrv start [14:52] I don't have a file namerc.vboxdrv [14:52] eviljames: setup doesn't work on ose (when using slackbuild). I crippled it [14:52] ahh [14:52] I followed it through step by step. I installed the kernel for ose like it asked [14:52] pprkut: ahh, well, my advice will be fruitless here then :D [14:53] eviljames: rc.vboxdrv setup with ose from slackbuild tells you to use the virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild [14:53] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFA50.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:53] I will see how vbox-closed works out [14:54] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:54] Slobad: you do not have a /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv file? [14:54] i notice i never use usb-passthrough when running vm's [14:54] Okay this is bad. [14:54] lfjob, metamucil [14:55] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BBFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:55] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [14:55] mancha: that's probably going to be available in -OSE with the next version as well :) [14:55] pprkut, Nope. I downloaded acpica and installed it. I downloaded the Kernel and installed it. I downloaded ose and installed it. I went to set up the vboxdrv with start and stop in scripts like it said and I don't have that file anywhere. I am missing the /etc/rc.d/vboxdrv [14:56] I have the closed version installed and working without any problems. This might just be good enough but then I guess where does it stop? I would much rather have got the slackbuild working but after following the instructions it fails [14:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:57] oh nice, they decided to finally open source the usb stuff? is that because now usb3 will be closed? :) [14:57] Slobad: well, if you have both installed there's no way of telling you anymore what the issue might have been [14:57] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.114.64) joined ##slackware. [14:58] I have removed using pkgtool the ose and the kernel of virtualbox [14:58] mancha: from what I remember there have been no new closed-source only features since the acquisition of Innotek by Sun. But previously closed-source features have been open-sourced [14:58] I will just use the closed version. First speed bump I have run into with slackbuilds. Others I have been able to resolve and figure out. This one just seems to not be doing what it says it will. [14:59] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] aha, how does oracle play into all that? [14:59] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [14:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Slobad: I can assure you, it does work exactly like the README says [15:00] I am certain that for most people it does. For me it did not. [15:01] Slobad: I guess you forgot the fact that rc scripts do not need to be executable by default [15:01] mancha: continuing the trend by open-sourcing usb it seems :) [15:02] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [15:02] pprkut, I gather there was supposed to be an rc.vboxdrv file created from installing the correct packages? [15:03] ok, well you've given me good news pprkut. which only leaves rdp if memory serves. [15:03] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:06] sinuhe (~sinuhe@70.102.147.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:06] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:07] mancha: ose has vnc, though not a complete replacement for rdp, it does the job [15:07] Slobad: most definitely [15:07] yeah, i just meant the last remaning closed feature (not counting usb-over-rdp which is a mix of the usb and rdp features) [15:07] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:08] indeed [15:08] sinuhe (~sinuhe@70.102.147.30) joined ##slackware. [15:08] pprkut, I am not doubting you, I am very new to this and you are going to be far more knowledgeable than me on the subject. I must have done something stupid along the way. I will stick with this closed version for now so that I can get the work done but I will try again when I have the time (from scratch) and not let myself be beaten by it :-) [15:09] Slobad: best bet: install vbox-closed, then install Slackware under vbox, then play around with vbox-open in there. [15:09] it's virtual machines all the way down... [15:09] and at the very bottom a single turtle [15:09] Slobad: sounds reasonable. If you figure out the issue I'd be glad to know about it [15:09] mancha: it's about as plausible as any other explaination. [15:10] pprkut, I am almost certain the issue will be "slobad can't read and follow instructions" but there's always a chance that I've not been a complete plank [15:11] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [15:13] mancha: with four elephants on top of it :D [15:15] i don't want to doubt you, but i'll reserve judgment until i see it. remember oracle just finished nuking opensolaris (pretty much) [15:15] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] mancha: the usb code is already in public svn. That's how I know about it [15:17] Hopsa (~Hopsa@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:36] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:36] Hey Guys, how are you all ? [15:37] I have installed slackware 13 yesteday, I can connect via cable but not wireless [15:37] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] How do I start apache on boot? [15:37] I read online that I can use rc.httpd to start it but I can't see that file. [15:38] I have followed the guide alien.slackbook.org [15:38] you don't have it in /etc/rc.d ? [15:38] nope [15:38] but keep getting a 169 ip address on my wireless [15:38] then you didn't properly install httpd [15:39] plus, it is scanning for any AP at boot which would mean that I made a mistake somewhere but can't find out where ? [15:39] an official slackware httpd (apache) package has an /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd file. if you +x this file, rc.M will catch it [15:39] mancha, Turns out that it just wasn't finding it for some reason when I was using tab completion. After cd'ing to it, it is there [15:39] xsamurai (munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left ##slackware. [15:39] I guess it will work if I just make it executable? [15:39] yes [15:39] mancha, Thanks [15:40] As I have input all the details of my wireless into /etc/rc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [15:40] np [15:40] did the same for my wired card [15:40] Any help much appreciated [15:41] It works! :-) [15:41] as I am getting really confused. Even though I am a newbie, the guide is well documented and easy to follow [15:41] you doubted me?!? [15:41] Action: mancha jots that down in his black book... [15:41] I was just copying the page that comes up for localhost when you test it :-) [15:41] mancha, What's that over there? [15:42] *takes mancha's black book and hides it [15:42] "sept 8, slobad doubted me - keep in mind next time he asks for help" [15:42] done. [15:43] You will see that I have entered the channel and "could anyone (apart from mancha) help me with something please? [15:43] zongo_, try wicd, available in extra/ on the dvd/cd/tree. [15:43] how to test if my 2nd monitor works? xrandr something? [15:43] radeon driver [15:43] sluckxz (sluckxz@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-oamtrgyodykzawru) joined ##slackware. [15:45] i'm just kidding. glad it worked. [15:45] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [15:45] would like to be able to understand the why behind it :) [15:46] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Slobad: reading this I suppose you had the same issue with rc.vboxdrv [15:46] sluckxz (sluckxz@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-oamtrgyodykzawru) left irc: Client Quit [15:47] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [15:49] got it all worked out [15:53] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:55] pupit: Yes, you can enable/disable monitors on the fly with xrandr. [15:55] Or, if you are using KDE, that should have a utility. 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[17:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-237.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] uhm no linux basic configurations [17:11] I'd use the version from slackbuilds.org :x [17:11] ok i'm there now i have to read it [17:11] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [17:14] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-87.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:15] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-87.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:17] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-33.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Nick change: przemoc86 -> przemoc [17:19] wow i don't know what to do with all that don't even know how to download it [17:20] read http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto/ [17:20] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:22] i don't i'm too mad at it rite now i will try later [17:23] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-113-56.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [17:23] larry_, what is the name of the file you got? [17:24] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] adobe flash player 10 [17:25] as far as the slackbuild i don't know what one to download to use [17:28] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:28] i did not get one tank-man [17:30] so what were you trying to install from earlier? [17:30] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:32] SlackDweber (~martinus@180.211.95.230) joined ##slackware. [17:32] tring to install adobe flash player 10 [17:32] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: You Welcome to join my channel ##Iraqi [17:32] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [17:33] i was told to use slackbuilds but i don't know how to down load it [17:33] just put it in the mozilla plugin dir [17:34] as far as flash terminal command will not extract the file [17:34] i.e. /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ or lib64 as the case might be [17:34] BlackFate (~asd@unaffiliated/blackfate) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [17:35] Mowah (~Mowah@c-4084e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:36] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:36] ok so how to u add it [17:36] what? [17:36] i have to names in here libnpjp2.so and skypebuttons.so [17:37] well i'm a complete newbie i now nothing of what i am doing [17:37] get the libflashplayer.so and put it in there [17:38] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [17:39] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:39] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [17:40] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:40] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:40] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:43] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Client Quit [17:43] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:44] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [17:44] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [17:46] i don't have a clue i will have to read som more i quess to figure it out [17:46] sveva65 (sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left ##slackware. [17:47] ok, do you have the flash plugin that you downloaded from adobe? [17:48] some like like install_flash_blah_blah_.tar.gz? inside that tar'd archive is libflashplayer.so. extract it and put it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. [17:48] pault_ (~pault@92.17.93.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:51] this is the quick & dirty way. you can also make a slackware package out of it, using the stuff on SBo, then you can easily removepkg or upgradepkg (later on) [17:51] ok i'm almost there [17:51] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [17:52] how do i open the plugins folder and add it [17:52] i'm using firefox [17:52] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:52] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [17:52] once the .so is in the dir i said, just close and re-open ff [17:52] it'll detect and activate by default [17:53] larry_ : you can look the plugin folder from terminal with ls command [17:53] Tools->Addons is where they're listed. [17:53] Nick change: Guest25277 -> mario [17:54] larry_, : the easy step is maybe you must use SBo script [17:54] go there (http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/) [17:54] ok i have flash opend in my desktop folder what do i do now [17:55] download (http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz) if your machine is 32 bit, or (http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz) if 64 bit [17:55] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d00017a.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] i have it downloade and extracted in my desktop [17:56] then download flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild and slack-desc file from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [17:57] patrick05 (chatzilla@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) left ##slackware. [17:57] after that, open your terminal / console. then going to where you save your flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild [17:57] with cd command :D [17:57] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [17:58] you must put *.tar.gz, *.SlackBuild and slack-desc file in one dir [17:58] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:58] greetings and salutations [17:58] then execute chmod +x flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild [17:59] and the last step you can create slackware ready package with command ./flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild [18:00] this command (./flash-player-plugin.SlackBuild) will create slackware package (*.tgz extention) and located on /tmp dir [18:00] q^ (~q@141.85.254.155) joined ##slackware. [18:00] hey [18:01] i have the same problem as here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-12-adaptec-aic94xx-600042/ but i don't see the solution .. [18:01] after the build process is complete, you can install your flash-player-plugin with installpkg command [18:01] newslacker (~root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:03] :) [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120760.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:04] i don't know i'm getting a big headache over it i have to stop for awhile its making me mad [18:04] larry_: or maybe you can read this howto (http://slackbuilds.org/howto/) [18:04] i have read all this i don't understand i quess [18:05] ~_~' nope [18:05] larry_, a slackbuild script is used to make a package which can be installed via the usual slackware tools like installpkg upgradepkg etc [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120760.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:06] fatalnix (~fatalnix@opportunity.georgix.info) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [18:06] usually you tar xvf appname.tar.gz; cd into the directory created, download/copy the source into that same directory and run the slackbuild ( ./appname.SlackBuild ) [18:07] this will create a package in /tmp for you to install [18:07] run the slackbuild as root [18:08] ely_cast (~ely@189.83.111.118) joined ##slackware. [18:08] ely_cast (ely@189.83.111.118) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [18:09] newslacker (root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [18:10] I prefer to invoke SlackBuild scripts with something like "ARCH=x86_64 ${package}.SlackBuild 2>&1 | tee {package}.SlackBuild.output && mv /tmp/${package}-*.t[gx]z ./" [18:10] slackware-14?? [18:10] you didn't know it was out ? [18:11] andarius, serious ? [18:11] been a while [18:11] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:11] yup [18:11] heh [18:11] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:11] q^ (~q@141.85.254.155) left irc: [18:12] CathyInBlue, yeah that's great but for a newcomer probably best to keep it simple eh? [18:12] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [18:12] :) [18:12] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:12] CathyInBlue, you can of course append $OUTPUT [18:12] i prefer to configure/make/make install and then lie here that i use slackbuilds so i don't get lynched [18:12] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] China sounds better than that :| [18:12] bahh [18:12] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:13] I've installed plenty of stuff with the configure/make/make install three-step that wasn't in SBo. [18:13] actually i don't makepkg/installpkg is mucho superior to make install [18:13] thrice`: What's that about $OUTPUT? [18:14] CathyInBlue, your && mv ./ is useless ;) [18:14] OUTPUT can be set same as ARCH [18:14] i.e. no need to mv from /tmp to cwd [18:15] unless you're going for an e-penis oneliner, then keep it [18:15] I know, but I like to round everythign up in one place, and I routinely rm -rf /tmp/* [18:15] i don't know quess i will not wacth video's on here i quess [18:16] I don't see how that's relevant ;) [18:16] hi mancha, you were trying to help me a few days ago with cdrecord. i took your suggestion and i tried cdrecord -v speed=0 dev=/dev/hda /home/me/video.avi . it's buring the dvd-r, and the fixating takes about 300 seconds. i tried at speed 4, 2 and 0 even though cdrecord says 'Average write speed 20.0x.' i still can't open the dvd's on the laptop that i made them on or on my standalone dvd player. [18:16] CathyInBlue: tmpfs ftw ;) [18:16] larry_: Trying to install Video LAN Client? [18:16] so use ARCH=x86_64 OUTPUT=. blah.SlackBuild [18:16] no [18:16] cdrecord is used to make cd's not dvd's [18:16] etc [18:16] flash player for the 3 day [18:17] mancha, cdrecord also does DVDs now [18:17] oh [18:17] larry_, download the tarball, extract it to ~/.mozilla/plugins/, and restart FF [18:17] ok, so you burned an .avi to your dics. [18:17] "ARCH=x86_64 OUTPUT=${package}.SlackBuild.output ./${package}.SlackBuild && mv /tmp/${package}-*.t[gx]z ./" [18:17] can you mount the dics? [18:17] woops. disc [18:17] kde will not auto mount them [18:18] larry_, follow thrice` instruction for very easy step [18:18] :) [18:18] the standalone player will not load them either [18:18] been trying too [18:18] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] CathyInBlue, no OUTPUT is where it put the package afterwards - default being /tmp [18:18] what if you try to mount it [18:18] CathyInBlue, ? I guess you came up with a nice one-liner, but don't understand it ? [18:18] the tabletop player might not understand the format [18:18] If SlackBuild scripts pay attention to an OUTPUT variable, I've never seen it. [18:18] it's on EVERY script [18:18] read one [18:18] on slackbuilds.org [18:19] i.e. only some players can play avis (very few), more can play divx (though not all), and then all can play dvd format [18:19] the standalone player did understand a dvd-r that i make using k3b. but the burn was 20 minutes long, then the fix was over one hour. i put the dvd in the player and the avi's would freeze. [18:20] I have read them. I had to when I followed the instructions and would up generating an x86 package on my x86_64 machine. It's how I learned about the ARCH variable. [18:20] the would also freeze if the burner played them. [18:20] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [18:20] the player can play avis for sure. [18:21] are you sure your burner is working well and your media is good? [18:21] it definitely should not take an hour to fixate a disc [18:21] so something is wrong [18:22] yep i agree, that dog don't hunt. [18:22] the media is sony dvd-r 16x [18:23] accucore [18:23] if that makes a diff.. [18:23] sony dvd-r is good quality stuff, the yellow packaging? [18:23] large spindle. black lable [18:23] my money is on your burner/driver misbehaving somehow. (i am assuming you're using sane commands) [18:24] here's the command [18:24] cdrecord -v speed=0 dev=/dev/hda /home/paul/BatMan/On.avi [18:24] I don't think you can burn avis like that [18:24] you need to make an iso [18:25] afaik anyway [18:25] ok. i know that i told k3b to make an iso of the avis then make the disk. [18:25] burn it rather. [18:26] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:26] spidertux (~spidertux@host107-182-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:26] blkdg, put the avi in a folder on it's own and run 'mkisofs -RJ -o cdimage.iso .' in it [18:27] "ARCH=x86_64 OUTPUT=./ ./${package}.SlackBuild 2>&1 | tee ${package}.SlackBuild.output [18:27] trying. [18:27] then use cdrecord to burn cdiamge.iso [18:27] CathyInBlue, better [18:28] quit [18:28] CathyInBlue, and of course you can set ARCH in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.zshrc so you need to always specify it [18:28] argh [18:28] sinuhe (~sinuhe@70.102.147.30) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:28] so you don't need to always specify it* [18:29] frk (~jcn@189.58.217.87.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Except, I know of no other programs/scripts/apps which rely on ARCH. If it were a truly common variable, then naturally I'd want to put it in .bash_profile. [18:29] CathyInBlue, most scripts should pick up ARCH automatically now anyway [18:29] ok iso made, buring at speed = 0 [18:29] But not all. [18:29] blkdg, why speed=0? [18:30] burn is done [18:30] fixing [18:31] CathyInBlue, no not all but the templates for 13.1 should do [18:31] I set mine in zshrc anyway [18:31] been like it a while now [18:31] dive i read this: If you use speed=0 with a MMC-compliant drive, cdrecord will switch to the lowest possible speed for drive and medium. [18:31] in the man page [18:31] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] blkdg, right but speed doesn't seem to be issue (to me anyway) [18:32] seems that you are trying to burn an avi as if it's an iso [18:32] so i gave it a try because the day mancha was helping me alisonken1home suggested that it might be a speed issue. [18:32] pault_ (~pault@92.17.93.255) joined ##slackware. [18:32] ok [18:33] it's still fixzting [18:33] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:33] how big is the iso? [18:33] 355mb [18:33] it's one avi about 165 mb [18:33] and you are burning to a dvd? [18:33] yes [18:33] nordwind (~nordwind@217.8.236.158) joined ##slackware. [18:34] nordwind_ (~nordwind@217.8.236.158) joined ##slackware. [18:34] single layer? [18:34] yes [18:34] nordwind (nordwind@217.8.236.158) left ##slackware. [18:34] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:34] 4.7gb disc [18:34] nordwind_ (nordwind@217.8.236.158) left ##slackware. [18:34] so that's roughly 4GB of zeros to write [18:34] if my understanding is correct [18:34] never thought of it like that. [18:35] and with speed=0 gonna take a while [18:35] when i look at the dvd-r i see a thin track ow written space and the rest looks untouched [18:35] it's done 301 s to fixate. [18:35] ok [18:35] i am going to try this in the standalone brb [18:35] see if you can moun tit [18:35] nice mount tit. [18:36] heh [18:36] ok how do i extract it into mozilla [18:36] is there a terminal command i don't know [18:38] tar xvf shitty-plugin.tar.gz -C ~/.mozilla/plugins/ [18:38] ensure .mozilla/plugins/ exists first [18:38] j0z (~j0z@189.114.184.210) joined ##slackware. [18:38] j0z (~j0z@189.114.184.210) left irc: Changing host [18:38] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [18:38] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: K-Lined [18:39] woah [18:39] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:39] killed, that's a bit rough [18:39] or is this an anti quit spam function? [18:39] ok thanks [18:41] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-83-34.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:41] well that was odd: the standalone sees it as a cdrom with divx file (one) on it. then i can play the first 3 seconds i hear audio, and see no video. kde automounts the disk as a CDROM. [18:42] err, did i screw up making the iso? [18:42] does it say something about the llama's ass? [18:43] perhaps i am one? [18:43] how do i see if it exits [18:43] exists [18:44] larry_, close firefox, open firefox, type about:plugins and read [18:44] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ok [18:45] or, view a flash video ? [18:45] blkdg, the iso should work on a CD or a DVD using that method [18:45] also, when i try to play the avi on the dvd-r on the burner, vlc tells me the avi is broken, when i tell vlc to proceed anyway, it does the same thing, 5 seconds of music then the avi stopps [18:45] oh. [18:46] blkdg, does the avi actually work in vlc? [18:46] meaning before burning it [18:46] tyus (~olivier@74-210-248-150.ri.cgocable.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:46] has a hole lot of java plugins and a default plugin [18:47] larry_, ls ~/.mozilla/plugins/ [18:47] default is libnullplugin.so [18:47] yes perfectly [18:47] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.129) joined ##slackware. [18:48] no such file or direcotory [18:48] *headdesk* [18:49] what part of "extract the file in to ~/.mozilla/plugins , after making sure ~/.mozilla/plugins exists" wasn't clear ? I guess the latter? [18:50] well sorry i have pissed u off [18:50] mkdir creates directories [18:50] blkdg, strange really - can you mount the cdimage.iso with -o loop and see if the avi plays from it? [18:50] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d00017a.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:50] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120760.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [18:50] larry_, try this command mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins [18:51] dive the avi works perfectly before buring. by the way, i am looking at a manpage for mkisofs and there's no J, i can see R.. what does J do? [18:51] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-120760.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:51] joilet file name extensions [18:51] mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins/ (this command will create plugins directory inside .mozilla dir) [18:51] blkdg, try mkdir iso && mount -o loop cdimage.iso iso [18:52] then cd into iso and try to play the avi [18:53] trying. thanks for that last one. i was very lost. [18:53] one sec [18:54] cannot create directory no such file or diredtory [18:54] larry_, mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins [18:55] larry_, ok2x, try to ls -a, then paste your output to pastebin.com [18:55] command not found [18:55] ha? [18:55] command not found ? [18:55] larry_, cat /etc/*version* [18:57] no such file directory thrice [18:57] heh [18:57] larry_, so, you're not on slackware :) [18:57] larry_, cat /etc/*release* [18:57] ya i am slackware 13.1 [18:58] larry_, ok2x, try to type ls -a, then paste your output to pastebin.com (ls -a command will show your home directory) [18:58] upss [18:58] ls -a ~/ [18:58] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:58] can i paste it on here [18:58] no [18:58] ok [18:58] larry_, paste on pastebin.com [18:58] ok let me go there [18:58] then give us the link [18:58] ok [18:59] larry_, you're on slackware, but you don't have the /etc/slackware-version file that every slackware install puts on? [18:59] uhm that i don't know [18:59] larry_, some sort of less-than-full install? [18:59] dive the mounted image works perfectly in vlc [18:59] mm, that comes from aaa_base :p [18:59] thrice`, you just say cat /etc/*version*, maybe larry_ type like your instruction (i mean with *) ;d [19:00] ? [19:00] umm [19:00] $ cat /etc/*version* [19:00] Slackware 13.1.0 [19:00] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:00] thrice`, upss..sorry [19:00] i'm wrong ~_~' ^^ [19:00] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] blkdg, ok so what was that cdrecord line you used again? [19:01] just speed=0 and dev=? [19:02] cdrecord -v speed=0 dev=/dev/hda /file.iso [19:02] cdrecord -v speed=0 dev=/dev/hda /file.avi [19:02] both were used [19:02] i have the coasters to prove it. [19:02] :) [19:02] hehe [19:02] I'm finding /dev/hda a bit of a strange one [19:03] i will pastebin my scanbus if you want [19:03] do you have /dev/sr0 ? [19:03] sure ok [19:04] http://pastebin.ca/1936147 [19:05] right so which one is the burner you're using? [19:05] here is another one, from cdrecord - checkdrive http://pastebin.ca/1936149 [19:06] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:06] i think this is my cardreader 4,0,0 400) 'Generic-' 'Multi-Card ' '1.00' Removable Disk [19:06] 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'Hitachi HTS54323' 'FB4O' Disk this is my HD. [19:07] 1000,0,0 100000) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW DVRTD08RS' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM this is my dvd, right? [19:07] blkdg, probably [19:07] so when -checkdrive told me /dev/hda i use that in my command. [19:07] blkdg, have you tried dev=1000,0,0 ? [19:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [19:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:08] k3b gives me 2 options ata1000 and 1000 , i don't remember ever trying 1000 as my dev. [19:08] from a command line [19:09] ok done now where is the link to send to you [19:09] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:09] if you have a spare disk: cdrecord -v dev=1000,0,0 /path/to/cdimage.iso [19:09] btw, does groisof (?) and mkisofs both work when making dvd iso? [19:09] larry_, in your web browser? [19:09] blkdg, growisofs is a dvd burner [19:09] ok. [19:09] mkisofs just creates the iso [19:10] try with dev=1000,0,0 but without the speed= line [19:10] http://pastebin.com/Q5ukjs9U [19:10] i tnink that is it [19:10] how do i umount that iso from before? [19:11] larry_, you shouldn't be doing it as root - do it as user [19:11] umount iso [19:11] once you cd .. [19:11] oh [19:13] ok trying with cdrecord -v dev=1000,0,0 ./cdimage.iso [19:13] ok so now that i have screwed all that up what do i do [19:13] larry_, sign in as your user, mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins as your user [19:14] ok did that [19:14] burn done in 13 s [19:14] then, download the actual flash player .tar.gz file [19:14] average write speed is 19 x [19:14] larry_, is that in your Downloads or something ? [19:14] even though i didn't give it a speed [19:14] desktop is where flash is [19:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [19:14] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [19:15] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [19:15] should i re download it into downloads [19:15] larry_, ok, tar xvf ~/Desktop/*flash*.tar.gz -C ~/.mozilla/plugins/ [19:15] blkdg, cdrecord is pretty good at setting a speed suitable for hardware/media *usually* (disclaimer) [19:15] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:15] ok [19:16] larry_, you really should be trying to understand what these commands do, instead of blinding running them :) [19:16] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:17] thrice`, where's the fun in that :o ? [19:18] hum :o [19:18] well i'm truying to [19:18] hopefully the fixating will be done soon, and i'll try it on the standalone. [19:19] blkdg, that's pretty much all I can help with - if that doesn't work you could try a different make of disc or blame it on hardware [19:20] newslacker (~root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] or just maybe there is something running which is interrupting the burn somehow [19:21] thats not working ethier [19:21] or some hardware/irq glitch [19:21] my dinner is done i go eat now thanks for all ur hlp [19:23] besides xcfe , kde , and gnome. are there any good x windows managers that anyone here would recommend [19:23] fluxbox [19:24] newslacker: fluxbox is nice [19:24] and the ones you listed aren't window managers, they are desktop environments [19:24] fluxbox is though [19:25] dive thanks for your help. the avi will not load on the standalone with dev=1000 [19:25] spidertux (~spidertux@host107-182-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:26] ah well [19:26] one more thing: [19:26] can only think there's a hardware/media problem [19:27] when i automount the last dvd in kde, it sees it as a optical disc cdrom. not dvd. my dvd also sees it as a cdrom, not a dvd (when i look at the standalon's menu) is is possible that there's another way to burn this? [19:28] or make the iso in another way> [19:28] ? [19:28] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:28] btw, the latest dvd still comes up as a broken avi in vlc. vlc will play about 3 seconds of it before it cacs... [19:29] kaks? [19:29] whatever. [19:29] well the mkisofs has some options for dvd but they are usually for movies [19:29] which would mean converting it to dvd format, then you could use growisofs on it [19:30] kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) joined ##slackware. [19:30] for which you would need VIDEO_TS folder and convert the file to mpeg, then using dvdauthor or something on it [19:31] actually iirc dvdauthor makes VIDEO_TS folder anyway [19:31] trying to use slapt-get and I keep getting "Server denied you to change to the given directory" when installing the gcc package [19:32] using slapt-get to upgrade gcc? [19:32] blkglg: man growisofs says "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" to burn pre-mastered iso image [19:32] pault_, it's not premastered [19:32] my bad [19:32] he would need to do that with dvdauther/mkisofs first [19:33] dive to install it [19:33] kblessinggr, slapt-get is not supported here. You're pretty much on your own with that one and most people will say _not_ to use it. [19:33] the openvz template I have is slackware 13.1 minimal [19:34] ok, your advice on getting gcc and such installed? [19:34] slackpkg [19:34] or do a full install and have it anyway [19:34] to start with [19:34] herbz (kat@tokes.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:35] ahh ok, didn't know bout slackpkg just installpkg based on the readme [19:35] is k3b in slack13.1 stable? [19:35] can't really do a full install [19:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:35] its an openvz template [19:35] not physically at the server [19:35] blkdg, well I've had no problems with it yet but there were some posts on LQ.org about it from 13.0 [19:36] why use dvd author if stand alone will recognise iso9660 fs containingg avi file(s)> [19:36] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-107.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] i am using 1.63 in 13.0 64 bit + multilib [19:36] newslacker (root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [19:36] pault_, stand alone? [19:37] that waht i want to avoid pault_ [19:37] kblessinggr, slackpkg should solve that problem [19:37] ok [19:37] just put the avis on a large optical disc. [19:37] yea just got the mirrors selected, installing now [19:38] no further conversion i thought., just avi right to an avi player via a dvd-r [19:38] dive: sorry, stand alone player, but maybe i joined this chat a little late... [19:38] blkdg, in theory what you tried earlier should work [19:38] just wanted to give slackware-minimal a shot for a barebone base for running the nginx webserver [19:38] i know. [19:38] pault_, ah right got you now [19:39] blkdg, all I can really point at is the burner/media [19:39] funny thing is that this drive also made my 13.0 install disk [19:39] yeah i'm thinking the same thing dive [19:40] try cleaning the lazer lens with alcohol on a cotton bud, try new disks.. [19:40] could i sawp it out for another one right now and try? are these things propriatary? [19:40] they are easily swappable and one size usually fits all [19:41] er I take it it's not a laptop? [19:41] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.128) joined ##slackware. [19:41] its a laptop [19:41] i have another laptop nearby. [19:41] ah then you will find that only certain ones fit the chasis [19:41] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) joined ##slackware. [19:41] ok, will try. [19:41] beb [19:41] brbr [19:41] blkdg (~blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:42] hrm, wondering if slackpkg doesn't set the enviroment var for gcc, as configure keeps saying C compiler gcc is not found [19:43] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) left irc: Client Quit [19:43] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) joined ##slackware. [19:43] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:43] hrm its in a path thats in $PATH *Shrug* [19:43] that will be gcc-g++ [19:44] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) joined ##slackware. [19:44] though I got both installed [19:44] and objc [19:44] newslacker (~root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. 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Or perhaps exec bash [19:49] hrm in /auto/options it has this CC=${CC:-gcc} [19:49] wondering if its trying to find something ending in -gcc [19:49] and yea I exited and logged back in [19:49] no [19:50] that means if CC isn't set it will use gcc [19:50] the :- does that [19:50] kblessingr: what happens when you run 'gcc' at prompt [19:50] just says no input file as expected [19:51] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.125.72) joined ##slackware. [19:52] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [19:53] hrm [19:53] back to google a lil bit [19:53] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:53] so the problem isn't gcc? the output of ;strace ./config; might show you where it's failing, if you can be bothered wading through the output [19:54] I wonder if it needs 3.4 instead of gcc 4.* [19:54] shall try that [19:55] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] running 'ldconfig' as root to update the library cache sometimes helps after installing libs. [19:57] strange [19:57] telperion (~Adium@190.156.18.200) joined ##slackware. [19:57] ldconfig didn't do anything '(I'm in as root), looking thru the strace output [19:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:57] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:57] it may be looking for an old version of gcc but whenever I've come across that it's stated it, not just 'not found' [19:58] and I think I only had that once and it was looking for a newer version [20:00] telperion (Adium@190.156.18.200) left ##slackware. [20:00] only thing I can find regarding gcc in strace is "write(1, "gcc -o objs/autotest objs/autotes"..., 37) = 37" [20:00] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:01] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [20:04] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A524.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Does anyone here now own the official black slackware shirt? Do they run small or big? I am always right between medium and large and I hate getting the right one [20:08] errr... hate not getting [20:08] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A53A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:08] yeah I got one but I forget what size it is [20:08] dive, is it just like.. a hanes beefy-t or something? [20:09] yeah [20:09] says L (42-44) [20:09] I have an XL. [20:10] I bought mine before I had this beer gut [20:10] lol [20:10] i suppose i should get medium then... [20:11] kblessinggr: i don't know what to suggest next, Try compiling a simple hello world program, try compiling a package that uses config system that you know works (swi-prolog works for me)? [20:12] or pretty much most things from slackbuilds.org [20:13] apart from repackaged blobs [20:13] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:15] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:16] Hopsa (~Hopsa@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [20:18] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:20] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:24] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Quit: upgrading [20:25] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. 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[21:04] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.125.72) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:08] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [21:10] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Quit: felipe [21:10] another intesteresting bit, nginx couldn't find gcc, then when I tried to compile libevent from source it says "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" [21:12] Do you have the binutils package installed? [21:12] did you do a full install? [21:13] That's a better question there. [21:13] didn't know there was a binutils package (new to slackware) [21:13] I installed the Openvz template for slackware 13.1 minimal [21:13] installed gcc, gcc-g++, gcc-objc, make, automake [21:13] how big is your hd? [21:13] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:14] I'm not aware of it but that template probably did not install any packages in d series. [21:14] I wouldn't be installing a full distro on a VPS [21:14] its a webserver [21:14] a full install can't be too big [21:14] a full install of slackware is pretty large [21:14] there wasn't a contributed copy of slackware 13.1 full on : http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/template/precreated [21:14] not to mention a full install has a lot of stuff you don't need on a webserver [21:14] let alone actually be able to use thru SSH [21:15] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:15] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) joined ##slackware. [21:15] hrm even with binutils it says C compiler gcc is not found [21:16] and on the libevent source says it cannot create executables [21:16] ls /var/log/packages/gcc* [21:17] kblessinggr, you have glibc also ? [21:17] probably not, its minimal, and I didn't install glibc unless it was already on [21:17] installing now [21:17] only you know that answer :> [21:18] even with glibc installed it says configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [21:18] and course nginx source still says gcc not found on ./configure [21:19] yet if I type gcc at the prompt its there (just says no input files provided) [21:19] which glibc package do you have installed ? [21:19] this minimal install sounds incapable of compiling, even if I didn't need it I would do a full install, disks are cheap these days [21:19] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.86.140) joined ##slackware. [21:19] perhaps sharing the output of "ls /var/log/packages" via pastebin would be helpful [21:20] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/259757/ thrice` [21:20] yea doing that next andarius [21:20] is interesting the template has i386 as the arch, was not aware 13.1 had an i386 [21:20] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/259758/ [21:21] from here andarius , http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/template/precreated under contributed [21:21] do you have binutils ? [21:21] I do [21:21] yes, I am looking at that [21:21] kernel-headers ? [21:21] sec [21:21] you should look in to toolchain requirements :) [21:21] and I am saying slackware is i486 and x86_64. so I am interested to know why it is i386 [21:21] kernel-headers now installed, nothing changed [21:22] *shrug* andarius I didn't make the contributed slackwares, from 10 to 13 they're all i386 on the list [21:22] and I'm not exactly able to make a slackware template for openvz myself for x86_64 which I would prefer [21:23] ok, you have kernel-headers, glibc, binutils, gcc ? seems like it'd be enough [21:23] according to the readme it was created with : http://wiki.openvz.org/Slackware_template_creation but its a bit over my head thus why I use templates in the first place [21:23] you'll need libtool also, but that's later in the compiling stage [21:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:24] wonder if there's a slackpkg to just show me whats installed and nothing else [21:24] yes, ls /var/log/packages/ [21:25] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/259759/ [21:26] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl13-182-241.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:31] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. 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[21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F6E1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:58] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:58] phil___ (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:58] hey guys, I have another small problem [21:59] my wireless is working at home thanks to you guys, but at another wireless network i need to connect to, it's not working [21:59] the other network uses PEAP and MSCHAPv2 for authentication so it doesn't have a key per se [21:59] I don't know how to configure wpa_supplicant to do that [21:59] so it doesn't use a key but it uses a username and password [21:59] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [22:00] phil___: i personally use WICD to handle switching wireless networks with my laptop rather than configuring each connection through wpa_supplicant [22:00] WICD doesn't work for me because of the unusual network card I have [22:01] it's broadcom and I had to install fwcutter + the bc firmware [22:01] hmm. you're sure that you can't get it working with wicd? it sure does save a lot of time [22:01] I went through that for about 10 hours with some other super helpful guys on this channel and finally got it working [22:01] zaltekk, yeah i'm sure [22:02] i'm connected to PEAP with TKIP/MSCHAPV2 using a username and password on my university network right now [22:02] it was as simple as selecting the encryption type(it incorrectly picked for me) and entering the login info [22:02] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xfffffff@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [22:02] i'm not familiar with how your firmware fix works, but it may be possible to get wicd to still do what you want... [22:03] how did you config yours [22:03] though that may come down to modifying wicd itself, or having it execute scripts during the connection [22:03] phil___: WICD configures it for me. [22:03] it doesn't for me [22:04] well here, i just grabbed the temporary config file from wicd [22:04] hopefully someday all wireless will work without jumping through hoops [22:04] tmkd (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:04] let me remove my login information and i'll paste it [22:04] it should let you simply enter the login, password, and ssid to get connected [22:04] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A524.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:05] zaltekk, thanks [22:05] hexhawk, yeah that'll be the day [22:05] no problems. sorry i didn't think of it to begin with :P [22:05] that's the only snag I've hit with slack so far [22:05] is wireless [22:05] i've never had an issue...but then again my card is widely supported [22:06] mine is 'partially' supported by b43 [22:06] which means they threw it in as an afterthough [22:06] t [22:07] phil___: me too, my wireless works fine in most places, there is one building at my uni that I can't connect to, the admins are stumped too [22:07] is there a prefered paste site for this channel? i can't recall [22:07] hexhawk, yeah, I went to the info center at a building and they were like, oh, linux? uh...... [22:07] zaltekk, just use pastebin [22:08] phil___: I hope I can get the clueless admins job when I graduate [22:08] phil___: http://pastie.org/1147273 [22:08] hexhawk, same here [22:08] oh, and change the ssid too, phil___ [22:08] i doubt you're connecting to tigernet :P [22:09] lol [22:09] is it always TKIP [22:09] well, wicd says TKIP/MSCHAPV2 [22:09] and I don't know much about wireless yet, what is ap_scan [22:09] i don't think it has to be 1...something to do with how it finds the ap [22:10] like i said, i haven't used wpa_supplicant directly in a year or two. and then i only used it for a permanent wpa2 connection [22:10] with just a psk [22:11] nachox_ (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:11] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:11] would I change proto=WPA to WPA2 [22:12] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] phil___: i wouldn't. it isn't my network. [22:12] ok [22:12] but maybe you would if it's different for yours [22:13] however, wicd doesn't have an option to pick between WPA and WPA for anything [22:13] it seems to just use the right one [22:13] i don't know enough about this authentication method to know if it can be setup with wpa2(if it is, i'm not sure why this network isn't) [22:14] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:15] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:16] zaltekk, why is peaplabel set to 0 [22:16] tyus (~olivier@74-210-248-150.ri.cgocable.ca) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:16] phil___: no idea. [22:16] phil___: i just copied the config that wicd generated [22:16] oh ok [22:17] brb testing [22:18] phil___ (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:22] well, i'm off. if he comes back, please inform him that i'm not here. [22:27] bogusjokes (~gcostanza@92-32-92-162.tn.glocalnet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:27] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [22:31] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.254.64) joined ##slackware. [22:31] hy [22:32] do u know how can I download/get closed captions [subtitles] from a flsh video from youtube.com or others ? [22:38] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-173-110-78.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] Tamerlane (~Tamerlane@69-196-128-41.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Tamerlane (~Tamerlane@69-196-128-41.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-208.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-87.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:46] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-87.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:48] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:48] anybody know what command I can run to get system information [22:48] like amount of memory, OS, cpu, etc [22:48] top [22:49] or free [22:49] |Slacker| (~cris@201.86.32.11.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:49] what about cpu info and stuff [22:49] like the windows system information window [22:50] cat /proc/cpuinfo [22:50] uname -a [22:52] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:53] oh cool thans [22:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:54] philpp: some others: [22:54] lspci [22:54] dmesg | more [22:54] lsusb [22:54] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [22:54] prolly got to be root for those [22:55] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:55] Hi. [22:55] Nick change: lfjob -> rhisa [22:56] nope, no root required [22:56] danc, thanks [22:56] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:56] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] andarius: lsusb and lspci don't work for my normal user [22:57] add the path [22:57] they are in /sbin [22:57] yeah, I know, but that's not the point... [22:57] which is not in a regular users path by default [22:57] stock install doesn't include that [22:57] so...... I would guess that philpp would need to be root, as I said.... [22:57] so, you can still very easily as a normal user run the commands [22:57] no [22:57] hackeron (~hackeron@109-170-137-116.xdsl.murphx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:57] Nick change: rhisa -> missyrissy [22:58] you don't think that by the nature of his questions... he's not got that stuff in his path? Really? [22:58] just because it is not in your default path does not mean you cant run it [22:58] Yes, I know that. I'm willing to bet the questioner doesn't. [22:58] danc3, yeah I know it [22:58] so rather than point it out, you say be root, how is that any more helpful ? [22:58] andarius: lsusb and lspci don't work for my normal user [22:59] you said your user [22:59] they're probably in /sbin or /usr/sbin [22:59] right? [22:59] so you didn't know either.. now andarius has schooled you [22:59] yeah I did know [22:59] andarius: because it's easier for a noob to just become root and do it rather than type the full path.... [22:59] newslacker (~root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] right, telling noob to use root is always the right path [22:59] lol, never mind, n00bs. [23:00] I'm root, now what do I type? Type slowly, please. [23:00] aaa,,reboot???:) [23:01] l s p c i :o [23:01] what lol [23:01] m i c ...... k e y [23:01] m o u s e [23:01] i think it is andarius [23:01] lol type slowly [23:01] the faster we mess something up the faster we learn not to [23:01] philpp: they are in /sbin most likely. I know lsusb and lspci are [23:02] andarius, yeah I had figured that out [23:02] also whereis is helpful for that kind of stuff [23:02] yes [23:03] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:03] n00bs, please limit your responses to "yes, sir" and "no, sir" [23:04] ok [23:04] yes, sir [23:04] lol [23:06] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:06] oh also mancha, thanks again for helping me with my wifi [23:06] SlackDweber (~martinus@180.211.95.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:06] works great now 'cept for the peap mschap2 thing [23:07] lol@mancha [23:07] where can i find some help on downloading the Closed Caption from a flash_video ? ; i do not know what to search on google ;; [23:07] philpp: my config didn't help? [23:07] oop... lol@mancha, SIR [23:07] zaltekk, I'm not at the place where I can test it [23:07] it'll have to be tomorrow [23:07] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:07] philipp not a problem, glad you finally got it running! [23:08] took forever [23:08] when i saw you say "maybe i should switch to an easier distrib" i knew it was time to intervene :) [23:08] lol [23:08] I think it might be because I messed with the two conf files before I tried wicd [23:08] not with me, i think you and i had it going in under 30 minutes? [23:08] oh yeah [23:09] I had been on for hours the day before though [23:09] on this channel with some other guys [23:09] ah ok [23:10] wireless can get hairy... [23:10] yeah very [23:10] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] imo it's the only thing holding linux back [23:10] hardware suppot [23:10] port* [23:10] windows magically works with almost any hardware and everybody makes drivers for it [23:11] you can thank microsoft for that [23:11] which si why it magically works [23:11] philpp, it's getting better (believe it or not) [23:11] they blackmailed the hw makers [23:11] lol [23:11] just good business [23:12] it's gonna take a while to fully switch my mind from photoshop to gimp [23:12] they even had bios makers program in a "get borked" function if linux was detected [23:12] wow really [23:13] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:14] I like my slackbuilds chrome browser :D it was cool to build it myself [23:14] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:15] http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/1150218 [23:16] tsccof1 (~tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:17] mancha, wow fail [23:18] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-87.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:19] tsccof1 (~tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:22] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-225.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:25] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-173-110-78.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Peace out ;-) [23:30] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:31] is there anything I need to do to save the settings on my clock [23:32] the format thing [23:33] nmap: error while loading shared libraries: libpcap.so.1 [23:34] in slackware current ?? [23:34] ask mancha, he'd probably know [23:34] did you install libpcap/ [23:34] Nick change: Azalyn_ -> Azalyn [23:35] BsdNeo: what XGizzmo said [23:35] it's in slackDVD ?? [23:35] you need tcpdump I think [23:35] no he needs libpcap [23:36] and he needs to rtf-changelog :> [23:36] does anyone know how to enable webkit in konqueror with kde 4.5.1(-current)? [23:36] word [23:37] zaltekk, install this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/kwebkitpart/ [23:37] kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:37] thrice`: i thought webkit came with kde 4.5.x [23:38] webkit comes from qt actually [23:38] kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) joined ##slackware. [23:38] XGizzmo: thanks [23:38] thrice`: err, well, the kde release notes mention webkit being "part of the libraries" now [23:38] andarius: thanks [23:38] yw [23:38] zaltekk, read again, I think it's 'can be optionally used' [23:38] you need that component to link qt-webkit to konq [23:39] "After years of work, the integration for WebKit has become part of our libraries. WebKit now provides a integration with password storage and other features in Konqueror, the KDE web browser. Other applications can make use of WebKit to display content with the same level of integration as KHTML." [23:39] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:39] Action: thrice` shakes head [23:40] if you're going to ask a question, at least humor me and try it before you argue [23:40] nachox_ (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:40] i'm not arguing about anything [23:40] pete_ (~pete@001.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:42] ok [23:42] it just seems that their statement is very misleading [23:43] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:44] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:45] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-175-242.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] is there a console based calculator or anything [23:46] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:46] bc ftw [23:46] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:46] cool thanks [23:46] echo "37337+42" | bc [23:47] oh........yeah...... bc [23:47] mancha, sweet [23:49] thrice`: it looks like the KDEWebKit library is what they are refering to being included in 4.5.x, and KWebKitPart isn't because it is still beta [23:49] but you need KWebKitPart to use KDEWebKit in Konqueror as you said. i wish they'd clarified [23:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:49] also........ calc [23:49] wow this math program is stupid [23:49] telemarketer, I don't have calc [23:49] calc 2+7 [23:50] philpp: you could always use python as a calculator [23:50] oh........I guess I must have got the package from linuxpackages.net [23:50] zaltekk, yeah that too [23:50] this math program didn't take 6y + 13x = 28 but it took 13x + 6y = 28 [23:51] I got a couple of BASIC programs that might be up to stuff like that......... [23:51] pete_ (~pete@001.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:52] bw basic is one [23:53] xbasic and yabasic but haven't really played with them that much........ [23:56] bwBASIC: print (2+7)-4 [23:56] 5 [23:56] bwBASIC: [23:56] thrice`: any way to get around manually selecting the viewmode as WebKit every single time you open a tab/window? [00:00] --- Thu Sep 9 2010