[00:00] one *beer* - not one *case* ;-) [00:00] damn [00:00] lol [00:00] Trotsky (n=Bob@124-170-3-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [00:00] lol [00:00] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] So is beer from Brazil quite good? [00:02] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] xingu? [00:02] yeah [00:03] That doesn't sound Brazilian. :) [00:03] rworkman, me too [00:03] but i don't mind a whole case [00:03] haha [00:04] Xingu is pronounced Shin-goo; it's named after the region in the Amazon where it's made iirc [00:04] I first tried it while I was in Brazil - it's awesome. [00:04] rworkman: still doesn't [00:04] It may not *sound* Brazilian, but it *is* :) [00:04] rworkman: cool:) [00:04] sounds (and spells) Asian [00:05] in English :) [00:05] brazilians have a japanese influence, look at their martial arts [00:05] ?!! [00:05] lee555J5, its made out of octopus by Japanese people that got stuck in the amazon and still have not figured out how to get back [00:06] lol [00:06] Sergio (n=Sergio@unaffiliated/sergio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] oh, ok ;) [00:06] Hrm...how do I mount a smbfs with 774 permissions?...at the moment [00:06] it's root:root with 755 permissions [00:06] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:06] and I'd like root:user with 775 [00:06] Jiu-Jitsu don't sound brazilian either ... but it is [00:07] well adapted i guess [00:08] nachox: just finished a bottle of wine from AR (not Arkansas :) ) [00:08] redtricycle, man smbmount, check the fmask parameter [00:09] lee555J5, i dont drink wine at all [00:09] but i know our wine is better than yours :P [00:09] bird (n=lee@96.240.45.172) joined ##slackware. [00:09] hey guys this is serious http://www.miamiherald.com/news/action-line/story/936303.html [00:09] I've developed an affinity for the Malbec grape, grown only in AR. [00:09] don't get an MRI if you have a nicotine patch [00:10] nullboy, i always wanted to own an MRI [00:10] nullboy: *BuRP* [00:10] lol [00:10] edman007: i've been in one and they aren't so cool [00:10] i don't get anything fun like that [00:11] nullboy: he meant cool to own, not cool to be in [00:11] i barfed inside it [00:11] in the tube of doom [00:11] nurses don't get paid near enough [00:11] irc from your mri! [00:11] all i ever go to the hospital for is infections of some type..like stupid lyme disease..i hate that, i had it so many times [00:12] lol where do you live? [00:12] longest hospital stay i ever had was when i had whooping cough... [00:12] mrselfpwn, nw CT [00:12] hang out with me for a while, i'm sure you'll end up with at least a contusion, maybe a concussion if you're lucky [00:12] if you cant IRC in it whats the point! [00:12] about 30 miles from lyme CT (where that was discovered), but i think we have a higher rate of infection where i am [00:12] HAHAH. Opps. Have you ever accidentally logged a user off on a terminal server? Well i just did. Win for me, fail for them. In my eyes at least. HAHA. [00:13] agentc0re: it was a change in the matrix [00:13] just tell them that [00:13] agentc0re, no, i do it on purpose... [00:13] I use procEXP by Sysinternals to send messages out to users. Logoff and Send message are right next to eachother. [00:13] HAHA. [00:13] I don't like that user anyways. [00:13] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:14] agentc0re: skill -u !? [00:14] that's like using the citrix management console "oh really? you're web browser is acting up?" *restart session* [00:14] your* [00:14] You know it's 10pm my time. We're are a medical CLINIC. a CLINIC. nothing is urgent care, but yet i have these dumb users that want to work the hours that i like to use to reboot servers when needed. [00:14] and run BACKUPS, imagine that. [00:15] Action: lee555J5 ignores nachox's obvious bait [00:15] nullboy: I use citrix, but the java stuff is broken... I am working on building my replacement server cuz i couldn't get it working again and it's a legacy product. metaframe xp. [00:16] agentc0re: metaframe XP is legacy now? [00:16] agentc0re: it's 5am here... kick them off =P [00:16] agentc0re, google ssgd [00:16] I actually just got asked why things are running so slow. I told him, Ah backups are running now so they don't run in the morning. He told me that i should look at starting them later. I don't get why he told me that. [00:16] phrag: its 6am here [00:17] nachox: SSGDSchweizerisches Sport-Gymnasium Davos [00:17] mrselfpwn, i near the middle of the "high risk" zone in the US, the middle actually looks like NYC, but there are no ticks in the city, i live a bit out it in the woods, where i get 20 ticks on my every time i turn on the BBQ [00:17] agentc0re: how often do people work after 9PM there? [00:17] http://www.aldf.com/usmap.shtml [00:17] ^ map [00:17] man i hate ticks [00:17] agentc0re, Sun Secure Global Desktop Software, a citrix replacement [00:18] i've never picked up a bad tick in so cal desert land or the beach [00:18] my least favorite insect [00:18] i've seen plenty but never anything actually getting me [00:18] nullboy: It's mostly the users that are allowed to work from home. We pay them for their convenience to inconvenience me. It's very aggravating. [00:18] sand fleas are sort of pain in the ass though [00:18] mrselfpwn: they just suck all your blood then drop off [00:18] mrselfpwn, they are no insects [00:19] ticks are parasites [00:19] yes, though they embed their head in you [00:19] arachnids, 8 legs [00:19] right lee [00:19] fscking spiders [00:19] yeah they do have 8 legs that's right. heh [00:19] nullboy, i had some swimmers itch thing once...oh that was really bad...like the itchiest bug bite you ever had, but it covered your whole body [00:20] ouch [00:20] nachox: I'm taking a look now. Really i inhearted this worthless citrix server. The only thing they use it for is to have a terminal session desktop. No published apps. So when i upgrade from server 2000 to 2008, i'll only be using the new secured RDP. That way i wont have to install that shitty ass app. [00:20] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.164) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [00:21] edman007: sometimes jellyfish larvae will cause that itch too. they are small enough to get down into wetsuits [00:21] it sucks hardcore [00:22] yes it does... [00:22] I think I have a copy of Citrix Metaframe for NT 4 somewhere... [00:22] agentc0re, ssgd is not free unfortunately [00:22] I know I have NCDWare [00:24] nachox: Ya, saw that. Not need anything fancy really. Once i upgrade, it's just going to be a 20 user terminal server. They can use RDP. [00:24] nachox: thank you, that worked [00:24] Does XP home come with RDP, now that i'm thinking about it. [00:25] agentc0re, not the server part, the client is there though [00:25] Okay, they do have the client. just googled it. [00:25] nachox: Heh. almost jynx. [00:25] agentc0re, the server part is sort of there but needs some hacking [00:26] i booted my machine up a couple of days ago and noticed some files and firefox extensions were missing. I'm using ext4. Have there been reports of data loss on slackware like ubuntu was reporting with ext4? [00:26] nachox: Ya, the first post i came across was one mentioning how to do that. [00:26] ext4 is ext4 in reubuntu or slackwa [00:26] mrselfpwn: afaik it's a ext4 thing not a distro thing. [00:26] right [00:27] i did drop my laptop on the floor from my bed so i was thinking that might have caused it. [00:28] Well, most harddrives nowadays have free-fall sensors [00:28] mrselfpwn: that would have done it [00:28] mrselfpwn: Probably did. You forced gravity to send those cosmic rays to hit your hard drive platters faster and harder which probably turned your bits from 0 to 1 and 1 to 0, etc. [00:28] I know that the other ext4 cases reported having a 0 size file instead where I completely lost the files in question. [00:28] lol probably right then [00:28] i've killed disks just by hitting speed bumps too hard while the laptop was running [00:29] mrselfpwn, dont use ext4 for the time being, stick to ext3 which is more stable and tested [00:29] specially if you value your data [00:30] oh man speaking of bugs http://www.methodshop.com/picts/bigbugs/index.shtml [00:30] OH MAN [00:30] right, well i know there is a setting that can be adjusted to make ext4 more like ext3 about the speed at which the data is stored to the disk.' [00:30] or reiserfs if you value your life! [00:30] i would scream like a little girl if that thing ended up in my room [00:30] nullboy: hehe [00:30] nullboy, nice [00:31] mrselfpwn, it's not just the speed, just use ext3 [00:31] Is anyone even going to continue the reiser project? [00:31] mrselfpwn: noone knows [00:32] bird (n=lee@96.240.45.172) left irc: "Leaving" [00:32] yeah i used to use it though that is the only reason I did not this go round. [00:33] NO really speaking of bugs!, http://japanesebugfights.com FTW! [00:33] Soptecpe (n=alex@207.83.217.6) joined ##slackware. [00:33] lol [00:33] mrselfpwn: I'm still using it but I selected it back when it wasnt an issue [00:33] ahh [00:34] Yeah. <--- new laptop. my old one with reiser crapped out on me. [00:35] So i bought a lenovo s10 netbook. [00:35] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "vendo filme..." 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[00:54] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:54] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-97-163.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-20-12.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:56] nite all:) [00:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:02] Soptecpe (n=alex@207.83.217.6) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] XAVIER (i=440e41d4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb074029540d62a3) left irc: Client Quit [01:06] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:06] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [01:07] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:13] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-160-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:13] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [01:15] _ahmina_ (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [01:18] calislacker (n=calislac@76.89.178.99) joined ##slackware. [01:18] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:21] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:21] a buddy of mine has a question maybe someone has an answer: "so I've ran smart long tests on my hdd and although the conclusion says 'no errors or no self-test ran', there still seems to be errors when I smartctl -a /dev/sda" [01:22] mrselfpwn: what do all the attributes look like?. [01:22] get a pastebin of smartctl -a [01:22] okay [01:23] if there are pending sectors you should run badblocks in non destructive write mode to try to force those areas into reallocation [01:23] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.174.171) left irc: "nite" [01:23] but it can happen all by itself if you just let it be [01:25] okay, he is retrieving the error. [01:25] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:28] Okay, sir. [01:28] http://pastebin.com/m323d4cf7 [01:29] nullboy, i thought the smart long test will do that... [01:29] there are no media errors in that [01:29] as i read it nullboy I am noticing the same thing [01:30] okay here is his 2nd hard drive; http://pastebin.com/m78d98e29 [01:30] mrselfpwn, could be the board on it going... [01:30] that one has issues [01:30] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:31] those are really big numbers.... [01:31] lines 54 61 62 all *should* be zero values in the raw valuve [01:31] those high numbers aren't what they appear to be [01:31] that's a reporting issue [01:31] ahhh [01:31] but 54 61 and 62 are bad [01:32] back it up and consider it dying [01:32] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:33] thanks nullboy [01:33] if smart gets to the point of actual reallocated sectors you have an imminent data loss situation that could get really bad quickly. that disk already reallocated 8 areas [01:33] he is gonna join as opposed to my moderation [01:33] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable136.6-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:34] never been in slackware before..usually in #ubuntu [01:34] it's got another area pending too [01:34] Mean_Admin is the one experiencing issues. [01:35] Mean_Admin, that is a bad way to start off... [01:35] now did you say the long test returns no errors Mean_Admin? [01:36] mrselfpwn: indeed [01:36] mrselfpwn: I didn' t retain exactly what i said [01:36] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] mrselfpwn: I'd figure it made a log so I'd go check afterwards... [01:36] recap: lines 54 61 62 all *should* be zero values in the raw valuve. Back it up and consider it dying. If smart gets to the point of actual reallocated sectors you have an imminent data loss situation that could get really bad quickly. that disk already reallocated 8 areas and it's got another area pending [01:36] s/wrongword/rightword [01:37] morning slackers [01:37] morning [01:37] I want to upgrade firefox on slackware is there a general rule of thumb on how to do this? Meaning do I have to uninstall the old firefox or can I upgrade it? [01:37] you can upgrade it [01:37] adrenaline_: make a package and upgradepkg it [01:37] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:38] nullboy: right then.. hum [01:38] Can you specify "make a package? [01:38] 'Do you mean dl the latest [01:38] are they all the same harddrive Mean_Admin? [01:38] adrenaline_: look at how slackware does it, on one of the mirrors in the sources directory, under the xap series [01:38] can I show you what SDB looks like, if I'm not mistaken, it's alive and well: http://pastebin.com/m530ed511 [01:38] ok [01:39] mrselfpwn: no, there are 3 distinct hdd [01:39] okay [01:39] I'll just repost them, my first pastebin wasn't clear [01:39] that's not the same disk [01:39] hehe [01:39] SDA: http://pastebin.com/m75c438be [01:39] SDB: http://pastebin.com/m530ed511 [01:39] SDC: http://pastebin.com/m6b8c8856 [01:39] Device Model:     ST3120026AS Serial Number:    5JT3PJNL <--not healthy [01:40] nullboy: ok understood :( [01:40] the other two look fine [01:41] ST3120026AS ?! ah maaaaaan, it's my / [01:41] well better / to die than actual data I gues [01:41] back it up right now [01:41] guess* [01:42] is there a command like dd I can use that won't copy empty blocks ? [01:42] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:42] cp [01:42] Mean_Admin: are you in the US? [01:42] nullboy: nope, Canada [01:42] pRoToCoL79 (n=Mitch@24-179-248-62.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:43] did you buy the drive in CA ? [01:43] mrselfpwn: I can't just.... cp / /some/other/partition can I ? [01:43] nullboy: it's really really old, but yes [01:43] really really old = 6 years [01:43] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] by memory [01:43] Thanks nullboy that worked excellent [01:43] Mean_Admin: today is your lucky day 5JT3PJNL 9W2813-351 In Warranty Expiration 30-Sep-2009 Expiration 30-Sep-2009 Exchange [01:44] haha nice [01:44] nullboy: :) how did you figure that one out ? [01:44] wtf how do you KNOW this shit, nullboy ?? [01:44] i am Mr Hard drive man [01:44] :P [01:44] ¤  Nick: Mean_Admin (New Now Know How) [01:44]     ¤  Host: n=chatzill@modemcable136.6-58-74.mc.videotron.ca (*!*n=chatzill@*.videotron.ca) [01:44] that's fsckin cool :D [01:44] I'm sorry Tyrael_ what ? [01:45] Mean_Admin: PM ok? [01:45] a simple whois shows that you are from canada [01:45] totally [01:45] Tyrael_: indeed, I didn't ask the admins to hide me or anything [01:45] and every hard drive company has a page where you can check your warranty [01:45] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:46] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:46] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Tyrael_: ok that's pretty cool, I wasn't aware, I though you had to call (like every other product) [01:46] http://support.seagate.com/customer/warranty_validation_multi.jsp [01:46] thanks [01:46] :) [01:47] back it up and send that sucka back [01:47] but how can you tell that SDC (http://pastebin.com/m6b8c8856) isn't kicking the bucket, it has... similar..errors [01:47] SDC has no media errors [01:47] ...yet [01:47] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.241) joined ##slackware. [01:48] it has a few DMA crc errors but those are not doing have symptoms like an unreadble area. DMA crc errors are more like buss resets [01:48] alruna_ (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:48] nullboy: man I gotta read up on hdd, I know basically nothing... and Idont think there's a man page :s [01:48] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:48] like edman007 said, that could be the board [01:48] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.241) left irc: Client Quit [01:49] it could be the cable, the disk's board or the motherboard's chipset [01:49] right so SDA has a ton of DMA errors and SDC has very few, is that the hint ? [01:50] could a bios update possibly help the situation? [01:50] Mean_Admin: no, sda has media errors [01:50] Mean_Admin: lines 56 63 and 64 in sda's pastebin [01:51] i had typos before [01:51] i read 1 line off initially but it is 63 and 64 [01:52] right, so: Reallocated_Sector_Ct is bad, Current_Pending_Sector is also not good and Offline_Uncorrectable is probably terrible ? [01:53] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.89.241) joined ##slackware. [01:53] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Mean_Admin: those values should always be 0 in the raw value column [01:53] if any of those increment, the disk is having problems [01:53] _ahmina_ (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:54] those are media specific attributes [01:54] aaaaaaaaah [01:54] I understand now [01:54] well, I get it [01:54] good thing it's still you lucky day and it's under warrenty [01:54] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:54] and UDMA_CRC_Error_Count [01:54] mrselfpwn: yeah really ! I'm shipping it ASAP, like tomorrow [01:55] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:55] delete all you pr0n first [01:55] mrselfpwn: which reminds me :P can I really just do sudo cp / /someotherplace ? [01:55] mrselfpwn: I'm a saint man [01:55] :P [01:56] cp -a [01:56] man cp [01:56] Mean_Admin [01:56] How come you are using putty btw? [01:56] -a is for archive indeed [01:57] mrselfpwn: it's a headless sever, my laptop is in my bag, and main computer with Windows was the only thing on hand [01:57] I had told myself I'd install smart tools tongiht since I've been putting it off since forever [01:57] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:57] heh reminds me i have a 500gb pata gone toast that's still under warranty :D [01:57] okay, I understand. I was curious. [01:58] was a good idea Mean_Admin [01:58] mrselfpwn: you'd think I would be 100% linux but I am not ! [01:59] Yeah, speaking of which i have a hd wear the plastic in the sata connection part broke. I know it's under warrenty though I wonder if they will cover that. [01:59] thanks, by the way, mrselfpwn and nullboy for your help :) [01:59] np buddy [01:59] you're welcome [01:59] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.2.196) left irc: "leaving" [01:59] slackware people aren't so bad, with their crazy crazy CLI world :P :) [01:59] we'll drink your milkshake [02:00] oh oh ! btw, any ressource I could read on to understand HDD technology and SMART outputs ? [02:00] lol [02:00] man milkshake [02:00] man, for all I know, smart isn't the only test for hdds [02:01] ah thinking about it, this hdd business is probably as complicated as ..well...everything else in the server realm [02:01] Just be glad you decided got smart and installed smart in time. [02:02] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [02:02] indeed ! [02:03] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:04] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:05] smarttools should totally be installed by default [02:05] besides, slackware makes a much better server environment than ubuntu. [02:05] mrselfpwn: I don't know if I could perform in slackware... no apt-get to do my bidding [02:06] we have slapt-get [02:06] and who knows what ludicrous things are different ! 'tis mad, no doubt [02:06] if that is what you like. [02:06] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:06] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.17.126) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:06] mrselfpwn: well, I like apt-get 'cause it's nicely automated ? [02:09] I only used ubuntu once and got to the part where they don't really like "users" to become root then quit. [02:10] mrselfpwn: you mean.. sudo ? [02:10] or sudo su ? [02:11] lol [02:11] can't say I understand really, I've lived under ubuntu all my linux experience time [02:11] there are clinics for this type of thing you know [02:12] but I did just install virtualbox on my machine the other day, I'll give slack a try since it's server material [02:12] tell me... does this Slackware.. have some form of /etc/init.d ? [02:13] yes [02:13] yes [02:13] all good then [02:14] also, I doubt on anyday of the week in #ubuntu, you would have recieved the help you did tonight. [02:14] http://slackbasics.org/ http://slackbook.org/ http://slackwiki.org/Main_Page http://slackbuilds.org/ [02:14] mrselfpwn: true indeed [02:14] slack uses BSD init scripts. Easier to deal with imho than SysV. [02:14] oh no here we go [02:14] lol [02:14] it's just imho [02:15] mrselfpwn: I do get some help in ubuntu, but it's so - so [02:15] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=446 [02:15] yeah, i've gone there once or twice for some distro specific stuff and did not get very far [02:16] like when I asked about the smart outputs, I didn't get anyone to hand-hold me and tell me return the product ! [02:16] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:17] hey! when did openoffice start doing docx?! [02:17] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [02:17] antler: it's been a while no? [02:17] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [02:17] Mean_Admin: dunno. i checked maybe 4 months ago and it didn't do it then [02:17] mrselfpwn, nullboy : if slackware is server material, what's your opinion of *BSD ? [02:17] nullboy: oh dear god. [02:17] lol [02:18] nullboy: I will never speak of this again. [02:18] hehe [02:18] antler: that's strange, I 've been using it to convert those Office2007 files I hate for quite some time... unless I can't measure time corretly [02:18] docx [02:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:19] Mean_Admin: hm. or it could be me (which is possible and probable) :P [02:19] antler: in any case, docx for the lose ! [02:19] yep [02:21] oh wow, in that noobfarm quote, I only understand the mentioning of runlevels and /etc/rc and maybe init [02:24] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [02:25] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:26] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [02:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:27] Mean_Admin, depends. Are you moving at or near the speed of light? [02:27] Time dialation and all. [02:28] lol [02:28] _ahmina_ (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [02:28] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:28] ccfreak2k: I can vibrate pretty fast [02:28] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:28] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:31] oooooo multi-functional... chicks digs that, i bet [02:32] dig [02:36] haha [02:37] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:38] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:38] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:39] StealthAsimov (n=andy@c-7278e255.030-101-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:40] StealthAsimov (n=andy@c-7278e255.030-101-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:42] hiphopjesus (n=john@adsl-69-110-25-99.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] hiphopjesus (n=john@adsl-69-110-25-99.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] hello all :) [02:46] trotters (n=Bob@124-168-180-201.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:49] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:50] when scanning with chkrootkit, it seems to pause at searching for suspect php files, then spits out a bunch of jibberish like if i did cat /dev/random http://pastebin.com/m44ef027e [02:50] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:50] calislacker (n=calislac@76.89.178.99) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:53] trotters, that is an executable file... (you can tell by the "ELF" in the first few characters) [02:53] the tool probably assumed that the .php means its text, and its not text [02:54] mornon [02:54] edman007: cheers [02:54] _ahmina_ (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:57] trotters (n=Bob@124-168-180-201.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [02:59] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Hi Old_Fogie. How are you? [03:03] oh good, and you firebird619 ? [03:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:04] great, Thank you. [03:05] looks like another seamonkey released from mozilla [03:05] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:06] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:09] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [03:09] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:19] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:21] ok i'm really confused here Please enter the following 'extra' attributes to be sent with your certificate request A challenge password []: [03:21] is that some i should be doing? doesn't that prevent the system from starting apache without user intervention? [03:22] lw0x15__ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [03:23] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-711aa0f49bebb406) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:24] nullboy, it prevents the CA from opening it to sign it [03:24] mmiv (n=cbanks@cpe-98-155-192-35.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:24] nullboy, these passwords are nice and such, but most CAs don't like passwords [03:25] there password that apache would ask for is the one on the .key/.crt [03:25] the .csr is not used by apache [03:26] would most httpd servers have it setup so that someone has to enter a password for the cert at boot? 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[03:38] with a webserver you always need the password, and it would be a bit problem if you can't start your server [03:39] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:40] i'm confused then [03:40] that means all ssl webservers require the admin to enter a password at boot? [03:41] no, if you hit enter and don't enter anything then there is no pass and it does not prompt [03:41] it does prompt on boot if you enter a pass on the real cert (the CSR you were asking though is not used by apache) [03:42] and its that exact reason why just about everyone goes without a pass for those things, if you do put a pass it needs to be in plaintext somewhere if you want the server to reboot without problems [03:43] so usually you just lock the certs down with whatever perms you can, and just leave it at that [03:47] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:48] but i do need to use a password on ca.key right? [03:48] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:52] hello Old_Fogie , how are you this morning? [03:52] sup nullboy edman007 ? [03:52] dtanner, pretty good and you :) [03:54] Old_Fogie: doin great i got 5 hours solid sleep , went to bed very early and now i am wide waake and having coffee @ 3:00 am in the mornin' =) [03:54] http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9770/pl003753.png [03:54] To be continued... [03:54] Old_Fogie: just upgraded to the latest vbox, 2.2.0 is out [03:54] dtanner, sound like my night, but I passed out on my favorite arm chair.. woke up to me saying "huh, what who".. been up since, heh. [03:55] hehe [03:55] dtanner, I noticed the release announcment, havent checked it out yet [03:55] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:55] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:56] dtanner, are you running it on your vista? or on a lin host? [03:56] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [03:57] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:58] yes and some linux vm's also [04:02] Old_Fogie: slackware host , vista guest and some linux guests such as ubuntu-studio 64 bit [04:02] yntax error on line 56 of /etc/httpd/extra/httpd-ssl.conf: [04:02] Invalid command 'SSLPassPhraseDialog', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration [04:02] I'm still running an older version of vbox community, I need to check out the later versions [04:03] nothing is wrong with that line. my file looks the same as the stock file [04:03] Nick change: Linus -> SlackLnx [04:03] Hello Old_Fogie, how are you? [04:03] hi ) [04:03] I was curious, do you use slapt-get? [04:03] *yawn* [04:03] hi [04:03] mrselfpwn, me? [04:04] yes [04:04] sir [04:04] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [04:04] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable136.6-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]" [04:04] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] yes I do, but it's only my packages and the official slack tree in the repo. the slapt-get server is my own. [04:04] cool [04:05] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-198747.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:05] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [04:05] Well, you know the remove obsolete packages command? [04:05] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:06] When I "simulated" doing that it brought up some packages that some of my other installs do use. Is there a way to stop or fix that? [04:06] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.250) joined ##slackware. [04:06] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Like it wanted to remove WICD for some reason unknown to me. [04:07] mrselfpwn, you might want to try a reg express in /etc/slapt-get/slaptgetrc file momentarily [04:07] for the excludes [04:07] near the top if it [04:07] or just use pkgtool itself, it doesnt honor what slapt-get does [04:07] okay, so just exclude those then? [04:08] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:08] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [04:08] you're probably just best off using removepkg /var/log/packages/wicd-..... [04:08] I was just wondering what makes it consider the package obsolete. [04:08] the see what slapt-get says and does from there [04:08] <_RadioHead> morning ppl [04:08] mrselfpwn, not sure really, I dont use that feature. [04:08] Okay, thank you. [04:09] mrselfpwn, I really dont remove apps off of pc's with slapt-get, I preimarly use it to install new from my repo, or do updates [04:09] right [04:09] but I dont trust it for removes [04:09] I was just seeing what it was about as I just installed it recently. [04:10] It did find 2-3 that I really didn't want to keep though they were by no means obsolete. [04:11] So i removed them manually and kept the others. [04:11] mrselfpwn, could it be that it sees that some other repo you have in your sources has a newer version, or new build revision? [04:11] hmm [04:11] I'm not sure. [04:12] _RadioHead, hello [04:12] I figured it might be that the packages weren't in the repos i had inserted into slapt-getrc [04:12] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:12] that is why WICD didn't make sense to me. [04:13] mrselfpwn, not sure. I really only use two repo's, slack's mirror, and my own. Mixing repo's (even in debian) is a problem waiting to happen I find. [04:13] wicd did not make sense? why is that? [04:13] <_RadioHead> hi Old_Fogie [04:13] slava_dp, he means slapt-get wanting to obsolete his wicd install [04:14] okay [04:14] Here is the key i think [04:14] froosch_ (n=froschi@147.172.224.61) joined ##slackware. [04:14] wicd is under "extra" [04:14] which has it's own packages.txt [04:15] after adding that to repo it no longer wants to remove it [04:15] aha, I see [04:15] Okay, good. [04:16] simple enough [04:16] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [04:17] mrselfpwn, that's the one thing I like about having slapt-get as an add on to Slackware, and not part of Slackware. For reasons such as this, that you still can control the box and avoid depends-manager issues and not wind up with a mess [04:17] i thought slapt-get was officially declared evil? :-) [04:17] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [04:17] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [04:17] right [04:18] that is why i like it also [04:18] slava_dp, hahah, it has it's awesome points, and it's bad points. [04:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:18] my take on it, it's a nice tool, but as part of the 'toolbox' and certainly shouldn't be relied upon as the end-all-be-all [04:18] yep [04:19] froosch (n=froschi@147.172.224.61) left irc: Connection timed out [04:19] and with just the right amount of human inter-polarity it just might work. [04:19] Action: slava_dp is in love with installpkg [04:19] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [04:20] yes. here it works awesome, since I write the depends file. and the only other "repo" is slack mirror. so if I mess up, it's really cuz I didnt something wrong with my slack required file [04:20] but, if I tried mixing repo's, like using LP, slacky, slackware, alien, rworkm... it'd be a mess in no time I'm sure [04:20] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:21] are there depends files for the official slack package tree? [04:21] slava_dp, no, but the requiredbuilder app will build it [04:21] Yes, i installed it on my lappy just to find out what packages needed to be update from Official mirrors all in one shot. [04:21] mrselfpwn, it's a good tool for finding out updates, except, it will miss glibc-zoneinfo, and links on Slackware 12.1 fwiw [04:21] and it avoids kernels too [04:22] right [04:22] i installed -current on my laptop. [04:22] but as long as you read the "excludes" in top part of /etc/slapt-get/slaptgetrc file, and keep that in mind it's pretty darn flawless I find. It like most software, has a caveat here or there, but it does the job [04:23] yes [04:23] i agree [04:23] and still allows the individual to make the final decision. That is what i like about it. [04:23] The biggest issue tho, is newcomer's to Slackware, try it out, and think it's a Debian apt-get clone, and then problem's arise, and we here in the channel are asked how to fix the madness [04:24] yes [04:24] i could see that as being an issue [04:24] just from the issue i was just seeing [04:25] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:25] yeah, a newcomer needs to learn pkgtool fundamentals. then they can use slapt-get, cuz there may be a day they have to get their hands dirty, and fall back on the pkgtools knowledge. [04:25] but I find slapt-get more reliable than yum, or zipper fwiw [04:26] certainly more so than emerge [04:26] oh God yes [04:26] emerge is the last thing i wanted [04:27] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:27] Just something to automate installpkg which it does very nicely. [04:27] or upgradepkg [04:27] I did an install of gentoo the other day, and after the full install off the live cd, then update emerge itself, it completely had broken dep's list. it didnt know what it needed to do. the live-cd is only 6 mo's old too. that's a shame. [04:28] Yeah man. [04:28] mrselfpwn, you can do a bash script for installing stuff, I do it here to initially load a pc. [04:28] with pkgtool [04:28] I mean [04:28] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [04:28] that's how I load gnome in. [04:28] I haven't looked into that. [04:29] It's a simple script really, for FILE in (add package names here); do /sbin/installpkg FILE.tgz then walk away :) [04:29] Well, i also wanted to load the slacky.eu repo in that is another reason i was testing slapt-get [04:29] that's a rude crude way I typed it,not accurate, but you get the idea [04:29] yes [04:30] Slackware's pkgtools script so nicely, I love it no joke. [04:31] It's personally one of the main reasons I like Slackware tbo. [04:31] actually debian's do too.. and don't. if you want to meet the Lintian criteria, then scripting is out. But building pack's and installing are sripted easy too. [04:32] I really have never tried out debian. [04:33] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:33] I had tried out debian before slack and it was a mess. learned slackware and debian got easier, heh, go figure. [04:33] lol yeah [04:34] but I really run debian to 'keep up with it' so I know what I gave a family/friend on their pc that lives to far away for me to give them slackware for their box. [04:34] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:34] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [04:35] I started with gentoo and got tired of packages refusing other packages which refuse themselves because he dependency they need refuses the original package which refused to be maintained for four years because their maintainer refused a polygragh. [04:35] go figure [04:36] yea gentoo can be a mess. now I got freebsd here and now netbsd (which I'm really liking) and they do fine. [04:36] not sure how gentoo goes to pot so fast, but it's off my radar now. [04:36] yeah, it's a shame too [04:37] yeah netbsd rocks my socks [04:37] and it's not like it breaks 1 package [04:37] aperturefever, I like it will do gpg verify of the packages, and freebsd dont. that's a major upsell in my book [04:38] you can do and emerge --world with everything correct [04:38] then reboot and you system is hosed [04:38] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:38] yup [04:39] s/you/your [04:39] you're [04:39] heh [04:39] you're hosed is what i meant to say hehe [04:40] so debian, not so bad? [04:40] Old_Fogie: i actually i like a lot cgd. solves many sec issues. [04:40] -i [04:40] well, it is what it is, a monster distro, on a bunch of different platforms, moves slow in developement, but is preety stable is my take [04:41] Yeah, the monster part is what I don't like. [04:41] Seems like it would be bloated. [04:41] it's good for a second linux in the house I think, they got pretty much every app you can think of, but it will be dated. so I'll try a new app there in debian, and if I like it, I build it for slackware [04:42] debian? I thought that its evil because of the extreme patching overdone by packagers [04:42] aperturefever, oh for sure, that and they'll rip firmware out of the kernel, and cause hardware to not work right [04:42] Do you use that app for gnome; Scribus, Old_Fogie? [04:43] example, a sound card on one pc for a family memmber, they could use the sound in etch, but not in lenny. you look thru debian patches, they rm -rf the firmware of the kernel.. [04:43] scribus, I built it, but I dont use it, I wind up using OO [04:44] the fun part is that they strongly support such actions, even if open source developers show their teeth to them [04:44] I started to build it though since i don't have gnome i aborted the mission. I was curious if it was as intuitive as described and really let's you get work done in it? Right now I use JEdit [04:45] aperturefever, yeah but they ship the freetype byte code on! a bunch of hippocrates I say. I have to rebuild freetype to get it out of there. [04:45] they can speak all the freetard speech they want, but that is *very* hippocritical. [04:45] hell yeah.. [04:45] rm -rf kernel firmware, which is BSD code, yet ship apple code [04:45] what a joke [04:45] lol [04:46] ubunut too, I dont know how they get away with that [04:46] i guess their userbase strongly supports them [04:46] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:46] yep [04:47] see how much they get supported in a law suit one day /end-scarcsim [04:47] Think that led to Romes downfall, though I digress. [04:47] haha a personal army of lawyers..meh [04:48] Guest17557 (i=0@112.135.202.77) joined ##slackware. [04:48] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [04:48] Hi all [04:48] deeep [04:48] hello [04:48] ? [04:48] and in top of that Ian is fully working on opensolaris whatever-est [04:48] I am here [04:49] to share some [04:49] ohoy there [04:49] success stories [04:49] Hey, Old_Fogie, did you hear on Fox how it is illegal to sell the "Under 12 years old" mini scooters because the kids might lick the brakes or the gear box which have lead in them? [04:49] I just got online with my slackware 12.1 ... after long battle .. [04:49] with the programs.. [04:49] mrselfpwn, no I didn't hear that, I'll check it out [04:50] Guest17557, congrats :) [04:50] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:50] so now the parents are forced to buy the more powerful (and much more dangerous) larger motor bikes for their kids if they want them to ride. [04:51] mrselfpwn, I'm just shaking my head in disgust reading that now. just ridiculous. [04:51] yep [04:51] the world has gone insane. [04:52] man i agree [04:52] welp, time for a snack. bbiab. [04:54] Guest17557 (i=0@112.135.202.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:56] <_RadioHead> agree [04:59] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:00] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [05:01] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:02] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [05:03] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.239) joined ##slackware. [05:04] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:06] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [05:07] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. 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[05:59] could somebody remind me url to description of package site owner threatening to poison packages ? [06:01] Richlv: was that linuxpackages.net ? [06:02] Richlv: post it here when you find it. [06:03] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03C55.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:03] twolf, i think it was, but i want something i can link to & details of it ;) [06:05] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [06:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:09] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-236-255-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:10] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [06:11] it definitely was LP [06:12] when did that happen and why [06:13] ages ago. cos prepackagination sucks balls [06:15] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:15] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [06:16] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:16] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:16] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [06:17] another reason why slackbuilds rule [06:18] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [06:19] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@75.142.245.99) joined ##slackware. [06:20] hello, does anybody now if a next slackware release is foreseen anytime soon? [06:20] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@75.142.245.99) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:21] s/now/know/ [06:21] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@75.142.245.99) joined ##slackware. [06:21] yes somebody knows if it's coming and when [06:21] Lalloso : take the date of last release, add ~7 months, and you'll get a rough idea [06:24] ok thx, I don't like speculation about release dates, I guess if it was coming out this week anybody here would know :) [06:24] or a year [06:25] Lalloso : nobody knows the exact date. [06:25] Lalloso, usually you will see a couple of release candidates in the changelogs before a new version comes out [06:25] whats the rush anyway? :/ [06:25] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:25] I don't have any rush [06:26] does anybody know if there is any major direction the distro is taking? [06:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.209.87) joined ##slackware. [06:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:26] I mean some huge shift as when they removed gnome :) [06:27] or a "huge load off" , depends how you look at it :) [06:27] Lalloso, Patrick told me to tell you that he will remove KDE soon as well [06:27] lol [06:28] Richlv: http://slackadelic.com/2007/04/11/linuxpackagesnet-intentionally-malicious/ but I doubt that this was a real issue. I rather think it was a bad april fools joke [06:28] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:28] yeah of course :) [06:28] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [06:30] alienBOB, thanks [06:30] it doesn't sound serious to me.. [06:31] plus who would install packages downloaded from p2p [06:33] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:37] kama (n=kama@host132-116-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:40] There was kde4 in testing on 12.1 [06:40] dosnt seem to be on 12.2 [06:41] anyone any ideas [06:41] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@75.142.245.99) left irc: Connection timed out [06:41] kde 4.2.2 is in current [06:41] which disk, do u know? [06:41] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@75.142.245.99) joined ##slackware. [06:41] greymaus: KDE4 is not in 12.2 [06:42] Ta [06:42] There are no KDE4 packages that you can install on 12.2 - only for slackware-current. [06:42] Plus, i tried out the Second-Life installation, and some time later, the system crashed [06:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:43] any ideas on that? [06:43] Otherwise, a fairly vanilla new installation [06:44] ~$ pom [06:44] The Moon is Full [06:44] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:44] but the sun is empty.. a libation to the gods is needed [06:44] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [06:44] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.227) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [06:45] :) [06:45] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:46] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [06:47] let us sacrifice the tribal leader (political) to the gods [06:47] (Not PV)!.. he's worth something [06:47] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [06:49] echo Hello, world! 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[07:48] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:50] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [07:53] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:57] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:58] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [07:58] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] t0f (i=1000@wlbr-208-103-146-13.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] a pentium 4 2.2 GHz is better than an athlon 2.0 Ghz, no? [08:00] eh? [08:00] t0f, probably not [08:00] nah [08:01] depends on specific cores [08:01] this is why i am asking [08:01] the AMD will kiss Interl's ass [08:01] gbonvehi (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [08:01] it does seem smother [08:01] is it an athlon xp? [08:01] yes [08:01] xp2400+ [08:01] and fo you have RDRAM or SDRAM on the P4 ? [08:01] i would take the amd [08:01] *do [08:02] sdram i bet [08:02] i think it's sdram [08:02] the same ram i placed into the athlon [08:02] is it socket 478? [08:02] the athlon? [08:02] its not rambus then [08:03] no..the athlon is socket a [08:03] the p4 is prolly 478 [08:03] oh, let me look [08:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Aizawa (n=Aizawa@1-1-6-35a.f.sth.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [08:04] I configured wpa_supplicant (seemingly) correctly, and I run it and it says it connected. But I still don't have an internet connection. [08:04] pga 478b [08:04] did you run dhcpcd? [08:04] is that p4 mobile? [08:05] dhcpcd? [08:05] Aizawa, where does it say you are "connected" ? [08:05] Aizawa: wpa_supplicant just provides the authorization; you need to still run dhcpcd to connect [08:05] no, desktops [08:05] Er. Oh. [08:05] wraith0x2b (n=wraith@mail.skepsis.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Gee. I've never known this. No wonder I've never been able to configure it. [08:06] typically, setting it up through the init scripts will do both for you, but if you're trying by hand, it will need a "dhcpcd wlan0" or similar [08:07] Um. Silly question time, init scripts? [08:07] Yeah, I'm not very savvy with linux [08:07] ok, (being on a limited dialup connection) even though the L2 cache is only 256K i will configure my athlon [08:07] all the scripts in /etc/rc.d/ [08:07] that didn't really help [08:08] what, I just type in my connection stuff and it's done? [08:08] Aizawa: init scripts do tasks while your PC starts up. there is one that starts the network, for example [08:08] okay, what do I need to fill in there? just ssid and wpa password? [08:08] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] nope, a little more than that. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wpa_encryption [08:09] i have nothing against intel, but why do athlon's always seem to lick their butts [08:09] meant kick, sorry [08:09] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.233.201) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] intel chips are beating AMD at the moment, in my opinion [08:09] lick their butts, heh [08:09] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [08:09] cause amd knows they are the underdog so they price thier cpus accordingly [08:10] thumbs: only in power consumption and heating [08:10] thrice`: core duo? [08:10] i meant thrice` [08:10] core2duo is pretty cheap these days [08:11] ah yes and price too :) [08:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) got netsplit. [08:11] Floops (n=baihu@bankii.ax.lt) got netsplit. 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[08:14] http://www.tpa.me.uk/raktajino.png [08:14] png not jpg [08:14] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [08:16] slackerpete (n=slackerp@86.154.107.112) joined ##slackware. [08:17] best bit is that thar is pure unadulterated coffee. Nothing but ground beans dissolved in water :) [08:18] hey is there any way to return the 128 megs of ram taken from the pool now that i have an agp 64 meg inserted? or does using agp-gart insist on it? [08:20] i tried tweeking the kernel to no avail [08:21] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:21] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:22] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [08:24] i'll keep teeking [08:24] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-42664b22fdd01bd4) joined ##slackware. [08:25] *tweeking [08:25] weird problem on some machine I am sshed to .. I can't do ls .. it hangs (not even ctrl c on it works) .. but /bin/ls works .. any idea what could be the problem ? [08:26] Allriiight.. So configuring the network stuff is going to take ages. Why isn't there a sort of network manager, but in text? You know, enter ssid and passphrase and you're done? [08:26] duryodhan, sounds like the path is messed up [08:26] duryodhan, type which ls [08:27] duryodhan, check out /etc/profile maybe [08:27] wait 1 min [08:27] which won't work [08:27] echo $PATH [08:28] which ls works fine [08:28] gives /bin/ls [08:28] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:28] /usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin [08:28] hey wait maybe it's kind of fast [08:28] bah [08:29] vatgas (n=val@123.145.40.233) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:29] ok so it's hanging then, seeing things fine ... [08:29] yes [08:29] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [08:29] but how could ls hang but not /bin/ls.. hmm wait .. [08:29] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] duryodhan, does ldd /bin/ls show anything missing ? [08:30] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:30] dngr (n=dngr@n112118130203.netvigator.com) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [08:30] no [08:31] tabb0t (n=tabb0t@122.172.126.214) left irc: Connection timed out [08:31] shouldn't which cd give me something ? [08:31] duryodhan, did the system have a kernel panic maybe ? check the dmesg if you can [08:32] wraith0x2b (n=wraith@mail.skepsis.ro) left ##slackware. [08:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:32] it has nfs: ...some server.. not responding .. [08:32] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:32] hmm [08:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] Long ago [09:24] gave up on it [09:25] I'm still looking into something like that though :) [09:25] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:26] surelf no more painful than myth tho.. [09:26] aye [09:27] it's time for me... cant put it off any longer [09:27] Going to get IPTV or something? [09:27] but my needs are primarily local media... not gfood enough signal to get DVB [09:27] ahh [09:27] control a&v from bed by remote basically [09:28] ahhh [09:28] yeah [09:28] I harvested an interesting virus yesterday [09:28] straterra: herpes? [09:28] using a mouse with a 19" at the end of the bed is just too much pain [09:28] No [09:28] I already have herpes [09:28] oh yeah [09:28] so what did you harvest? [09:28] A virus that takes over adobe..and when you launch adobe, it installs some "antispyware" app [09:29] eh [09:29] It replaces like half of the adobe reader files with its own [09:29] adobe suck [09:29] what did you use to remove it? [09:29] It actually looked pretty damn cool [09:29] Oh, my usual tools..then just nuked the adobe install [09:30] malwarebytes is becoming a good program, especially for vundo [09:30] straterra: we use malwarebytes constantly [09:30] that thing removes everything [09:30] literrally [09:30] and its the only one I've found that removes antivirus xp 2009 without even flinching [09:31] eww payware [09:31] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-208-111-228-127-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [09:31] Oh god.. [09:31] Zordrak: freeversion of malwayre bytes does great [09:31] hey, i have a easy question, how i can upgrade my slack 12.2 to slackware-current with kde4? [09:31] ZOMGEWPAYWARE!!11!!11!!!oneone!!1!! [09:31] nukedclx: you read the documentation. [09:31] nukedclx: follow the UPGRADE.txt on your favorite mirror [09:32] nukedclx: for the rest .. if you need to ask, you shouldn't. :) [09:32] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:32] nukedclx: set slackpkg mirror to current; slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all; read CHANGESANDHINTS [09:33] very usefull [09:33] thanks [09:33] Or..read the UPGRADE.txt file [09:33] sry, i shouldnt ask, i should first read that [09:34] Give that a read..it tells you what to do [09:34] I would say: CURRENT.WARNING ; UPGRADE.TXT ; CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT ; upgradepkg(8) ; slackpkg(8) [09:34] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Don't forget slackpkg install-new [09:35] Because a lot of new packages went into -current since 12.2 [09:35] BP{k}: I like your answer [09:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:36] how do I get only the security updates? [09:36] I am on 12.2 .. don't want to run current [09:36] you can rsync them from a mirror [09:36] slackpkg won't do this for me ? [09:36] or use slackpkg too. [09:36] Keep a local directory of them..sync changes..and upgrade [09:36] duryodhan: you can either download them from a mirror and use upgradepkg(8) or use slackpkg(8) [09:37] or a combination of the above. I use a local mirror with slackpkg [09:37] in slackpkg .. which mirrors are good and working ? [09:37] just uncomment a 12.2 mirror and slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all ? [09:37] duryodhan: slackpkg(8) will reveal all. :) [09:38] it didn't .. or I couldn't understand it .. [09:38] for e.g .. why do I need to update before upgrade-all ? [09:38] can't I comment out multiple mirrors ? [09:38] and let slackpkg choose [09:38] no [09:38] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [09:38] re: your last question - no. [09:38] it says in the mirror file. [09:39] "slackpkg update -> update will download the latest package lists from a Slackware mirror." [09:39] update updates slackpkg's repo info [09:39] duryodhan: man slackpkg [09:39] I know I can't uncomment multiple mirrrors .. but for me .. I uncomment some mirror and then after some time it decides to kick me out or something .. don't know what .. [09:39] then I have to choose another mirror [09:39] what mirror is good and dependable ? [09:40] tds [09:40] slackware.no [09:40] i use utah [09:41] esat is okay as well. [09:42] copland-vista (n=Rob@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [09:42] <_RadioHead> hi BP{k} dude :) how are you [09:43] i'm so screwed. [09:43] copland-irssi (n=Rob@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [09:44] i second slackware.no [09:45] mrselfpwn: why? [09:45] mrselfpwn: Probably, just look at your name. I think that should have spelled it all out for you. [09:45] ;) [09:45] well, who usually does it? [09:45] <-- [09:45] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] but i still have friends luckily [09:46] mrselfpwn: If you're talking about the cake..its a lie :/ [09:46] they don't speak english or have tongues that alow them to. [09:47] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:47] yes it was straterra [09:47] http://www.imagebin.org/44904 http://www.imagebin.org/44903 http://imagebin.org/44908 [09:48] that better not be me with a monkey. [09:48] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:48] i'm joking :P [09:49] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] dude what is up with the huge bugs? [09:49] or bugs period [09:50] Aizawa (n=Aizawa@1-1-6-35a.f.sth.bostream.se) left ##slackware. [09:50] i witnessed the worlds largest insects then afgany bug fighting (which I believe is illegal "everywhere") [09:50] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:52] except every country except brazil. [09:53] were all the insects do all the labor. [09:53] ??? [09:53] In brazil my friend, don't come half way into a conversation and expect to know whats going on. [09:54] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] actually [09:54] I didnt understand your frase [09:54] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.153.31) joined ##slackware. [09:54] did you mean where? [09:54] were = we are [09:56] did you grasp the context of the sentence? [09:57] only if you meant where =P [09:57] lol [09:57] other than that you would be calling yourself a laboring insect [09:57] no that doesn't make much sense does it [09:57] =) [09:58] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [09:58] lol [09:59] it's an enigma [09:59] could be where or we're [09:59] nope [09:59] i'm so screwed [09:59] were is we're I was just lazy [09:59] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] whats up? [10:00] it was meant to be where [10:00] with a capital W [10:00] paco_ (n=paco@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] hello [10:01] hi [10:01] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.235.209) joined ##slackware. [10:01] how do I flush the nat again? [10:01] is there a way in slackware to view hardware specs [10:01] copland-irssi (n=Rob@209.241.118.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:01] copland-vista (n=Rob@209.241.118.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:01] specifically my video card im trying to find the model [10:01] paco_: lspci [10:01] lspci for the video card [10:02] thank you [10:02] lsusb for usb devices.. cat /proc/cpuinfo for processor.. [10:02] You may also want to look at dmidecode [10:04] nukedclx (n=root@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:04] i fail [10:04] "How do I flush the nat?" you mean? [10:05] i think xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. [10:05] Aborte [10:05] nukedclx: Well why do you want current? [10:05] thats the problem [10:05] because i want kde4 [10:05] What are you doing to get that error? [10:05] And what steps did yo utake? [10:05] you take^ [10:05] i take a way with slackpkg [10:05] i upgraded solibs [10:05] nukedclx: You can just upgrade to kde4 without doing all of current. [10:05] pkgtools are uptodate [10:05] nukedclx: just install new from -current [10:06] but [10:06] sec [10:06] i totally read that as, butt sex. [10:06] yum [10:06] agentc0re: Zordrak - you can *NOT* just install KDE4 from -current on Slackware 12.2 !! [10:07] look [10:07] http://pastebin.ca/1387110 [10:07] did any of you guys have trouble getting your monitors full resolution [10:08] alienBOB: i weant install the whole OS fresh from -current [10:08] No [10:08] * meant [10:08] Uh.. [10:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:08] Theres no reason to do that if you follow the documentation [10:09] me? [10:09] can i use upgradepkg with mirrors from www? [10:09] paco_: ATI or nVidia? [10:09] nvidia [10:10] downloaded latest driver installer from nVidua? [10:10] i just did.....will that work? [10:10] yes [10:10] k brb [10:10] unsurprisingly lince thats what its for [10:10] *since [10:10] but init 3 first [10:11] paco_ (n=paco@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] nukedclx: no, upgradepkg only works for local [10:17] hey, how do I start applications as say nice -5 without sudoing to root? - do I have to be in a specific group? - can specific processes be allowed to be niced to -5? [10:17] nukedclx: that pastebin, what command did you exactly give? [10:18] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:20] nukedclx (n=root@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:20] Action: BP{k} thinks that was the most weird error I have seen with slackpkg :) [10:25] tony (n=tony@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] I'd like to know the answer to that as well, including output of 'cat /etc/slackware-version' [10:26] tony: so.. it worked, right? [10:26] yea lol [10:26] wait how did u no it was me [10:26] lummox (i=lummox@p508DF85D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] pat yourself on the back for buying an nvidia card [10:26] tony: magic [10:26] tony: same ip [10:27] he's our official channel stalker [10:27] yea...i was going to install it...but i wanted to make sure that it was going to work..bc i didnt feel like signing out for nothing [10:27] only one person from jersey allowed in at once [10:28] insucrance quotas.. you understand [10:28] *insurance [10:28] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [10:30] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:31] can someone help me with installing my bittorrent client [10:31] rtfm.. then install.. if you hit a specific problem.. ask it, but concisely [10:31] im getting the following error "/usr/bin/python is needed by BitTorrent-3.9.1-1.noarch [10:31] RESULT=1" [10:32] would suggest you havent got python [10:32] how do you get it [10:32] comes with slack [10:33] did you not do a full install? [10:33] i did...thats why im confused [10:33] `which python` [10:33] None of you would know where to nab conficker c, d, or e at..would you? [10:34] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] 2.5 i think [10:35] tony, ls /var/log/packages | grep python [10:35] ` ` means run the command inside [10:36] ugh, new cairo has borked building inkscape [10:36] "dbus-python-0.83.0-i486-1 [10:36] python-2.5.2-i486-4 [10:36] " [10:36] tony: `which python` [10:37] idk [10:37] ffs [10:37] ... [10:37] ` ` means run the command inside [10:37] lol [10:37] type a w [10:37] then an h [10:37] than an i [10:37] ... [10:37] in english he means where is the program named "python" located [10:38] uh [10:38] /usr/bin [10:38] tank-man: i specifically mean *run that* to confirm not only wether python got killed but also confirm $PATH [10:38] i give up. I'm off back to sleep [10:38] im new to linux [10:39] tony, which client are you trying to install [10:39] are you new to reading what people type? [10:39] bittorrent [10:40] tony, you might as well use the bittorent clients shiped with slack [10:40] whats it called [10:40] ktorrent is one [10:40] ls /var/log/packages | grep -i torrent [10:40] bittorrent is another, bittornado is another. [10:40] and there are slackbuilds for others at slackbuilds.org [10:41] if you prefer to use the command line, you can use the btdownload* family [10:41] zordrak idk what to do after that [10:41] The Moon is Full [10:42] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:42] BP{k}, ++ [10:42] yay [10:42] well, well, whatta ya know. >:=) [10:42] BP{k}: obviously(!) [10:42] hi everyone [10:42] Zordrak: yeah, it was a pretty much give away ;) [10:43] ktorrent is only for kde? [10:44] it's a client design for the KDE desktop, yes. [10:44] i have xfce [10:44] you can use it in other file managers if you have kde installed [10:44] it works in anothers enviroments [10:45] ok [10:45] BP{k}: i actually meant cos the failbus arrived in force.. but yeah [10:45] you just need the libraries working [10:45] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [10:45] heY I'm facing a problem here [10:46] Zordrak: you mean the failbus that came on the 15:30 failferry [10:46] uhhh [10:46] I install my new slack yestarday, 12.2 oK... Everything was working as it should [10:46] but today, when I turn my PC on, the sound is doesn't working anymore [10:47] the free firty failbus from the scholl in failtown [10:47] I put my user in the sound group when I created [10:48] is that the short failbus? or the dirty great big double decker? [10:48] overvolt: which kernel [10:48] turn up the volume maybe and save the settings so it gets loaded on startup [10:48] the native of 12.2 [10:48] overvolt, run alsamixer to see if the sound is muted [10:48] dive: school bus.. so depends [10:48] 2.6.27 i guess [10:48] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Connection timed out [10:48] the sound is fine in alsa and alsamixer [10:48] overvolt: i meant huge or generic [10:48] overvolt, did you 'alsactl store'? after setting sound settings? [10:48] nope dive [10:48] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:49] alsactl store will do it like dive said [10:49] Zordrak, its the hugesmp [10:51] i give an alsactl store, but it's still mude [10:52] alsaunmute.. [10:52] unmute the sound :-) [10:52] Zordrak, maybe it's just a failday lol [10:53] what do you mean the sound is fine in alsa and alsamixer? it works or not? or just certain programs dont' work? [10:53] its not working [10:53] but is everything fine [10:53] and you have everything in alsamixer turned up and unmuted? [10:54] not everthing just the master channel [10:54] sigh [10:54] well you need pcm too at least [10:54] must be the bank holiday [10:54] wan* holiday [10:55] I'm going to log as root to see if the problem is with my user account [10:55] if you 'aplay' a wav, does it giver any error? [10:56] or does it appear to play but with no sound [10:56] yeah, it appear to play, but with no sound [10:56] my amarok is playing right now [10:56] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [10:56] i'm be back, just a second [10:56] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:57] try kmix that might be easier to use than alsamixer [10:57] . [10:58] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] or just plug your speakers in and turn them on.. then plug them in the out channel not the line in channel [10:58] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:59] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:59] you could have just opened a terminal, su'ed to root and aplayed a wav. No need to log out. [10:59] ##slackware looks like #ubuntu to me today :-D [10:59] it's mute with root either [10:59] 'kin right [10:59] try kmix that might be easier to use than alsamixer [10:59] I guess the problem is with my machine [10:59] slava_dp: it's not just me then... the bus did drop them off en masse [10:59] alsamixer [10:59] unmute anything set to MM [10:59] 15:58:42 < Zordrak> or just plug your speakers in and turn them on.. then plug them in the out channel not the line in channel [11:00] alsactl store [11:00] Dominian: can I get an nmap? [11:00] bus?? they are parachuting in today :> [11:00] straterra: which DNS? [11:00] because this happens sometimes on windows too... [11:00] fuhell.com please [11:00] overvolt: O_O [11:00] Zordrak: yeah thats sux [11:00] damn i can't stop laughing [11:00] stop letting your cat crap on your sound card [11:01] I thought it happens because of some driver conflicts on vista64 [11:01] but it seems i'm wrong [11:01] what sound card is this? [11:01] open case and check board is set right, nice and tight. check cables too [11:01] we'll have to noobfarm the last hour or so [11:02] its a onboard card based on realtek chip [11:02] my mobo is a GA-MA69VM-S2 [11:02] cat /proc/headache > /dev/null [11:02] GA- GigaByte? [11:02] yeaH [11:02] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:03] had problems with their boards in the past.. [11:03] i knew something wasnt right.... [11:03] the only way to solve this annoying problem is shutting down the PC and turn on again [11:03] cat /dev/null > /proc/headache [11:04] you might as well invest in a sound card [11:04] yeaH [11:04] overvolt: maybe your board is undervolted [11:04] i'm about to buy a new motherboard [11:04] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:04] what wattage is your power supply? [11:04] its a 550W Huntkey V-Power [11:05] and how many other boards/drives do you plug into it? [11:05] new.. from Shell.. [11:05] just an video card, and 3 hardrives [11:05] new from Ford [11:05] geforce 7300 [11:05] type of vid card? [11:05] separate fan plug? [11:05] nope its a passive cooling [11:06] dive: irrel.. 350 would cover [11:06] similar box at home.. 120W [11:06] my power supply its cool i guess [11:06] i'm happy with it [11:06] yeah 550W ought to be ok [11:06] higher gfx and fatal1ty [11:07] will teach you to buy gigabyte boards [11:07] warranty? [11:07] the warranty has gone a time ago [11:07] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.192) joined ##slackware. [11:07] oh well [11:07] new mobo and a sound card I think [11:07] I have this board over 2 years now [11:08] i'll buy an ECS next time [11:08] sheep and cool [11:08] overvolt: listen crarlefully... i will say this *once* [11:08] Do NOT get any board with an nForce chipset [11:08] of course [11:09] i always prefered the AMD chipsets [11:09] you say "of course" as if you're not on a gigabyte board right now... [11:09] I use AMD since the k6 300mhz [11:09] ?! [11:09] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [11:09] thats processor you goat herder! [11:09] I buyed this motherboard [11:10] cause I was out of money to buy what I really want [11:10] chipset! [11:10] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:10] A Asus M2n-SLI deluxe in that time [11:10] chipset != cpu [11:10] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:10] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] THATS A FUCKING NFORCE BOARD! [11:10] Action: Zordrak passes out [11:10] lol [11:10] LoL [11:10] lol [11:11] hey listen, I'm going to shut down and turn on again [11:11] be back soon [11:11] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:11] Action: alienBOB has been happy for years now with his nforce-based motherboard... [11:11] no wait [11:11] overvolt: forget step 2 [11:11] rofl [11:11] ... thanks I love you too [11:11] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:11] alienBOB: foredeth and nvidia sata have been bane of my life here [11:12] =- ) [11:12] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:12] overvolt: try " rm /etc/asound.* " and then reboot the workstation [11:12] Ah shoot [11:12] alienBOB: one of those "very good.. WHEN it works" sitchations [11:14] My mobo has dual onboard nics. The realtec based one is more reliable than the nforce based one, true [11:15] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:15] the marvell ones were great [11:15] dive: guess what? [11:15] but then they dropped the marvell chips and went twin-nvidia [11:15] my sound is working [11:15] olefowdie (n=brad@adsl-176-19-201.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] olefowdie today? Had your teeth removed? [11:16] alsactl store ftw [11:16] ?? [11:16] the alsa is fine! the problem is with my damn onboard card [11:16] but i love her anyway [11:17] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] olefowdie: forget it... I thought you were old_fogie with a changed nick [11:17] well you know the cure [11:17] hahah [11:17] so, I was wondering if it is possible to install packages to /opt and then have them symlink to to maybe /usr/bin [11:18] did alienBOB just have a moment :) [11:18] Old_Fogie: yes. [11:18] does installpkg run any scripts within the package tgz? [11:18] haha [11:18] Old_Fogie: doinst.sh [11:18] olefowdie, ^^ [11:18] oh hell... huge tabfail :( [11:18] lol [11:18] indeed [11:18] nick fail, more like [11:18] you have a moment too :P [11:18] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] someone know the command for up and down the sound with alsa? [11:19] $ pom [11:19] The Moon is Full [11:19] :) [11:19] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] so, I could take non-Slackware packages and have them install to /opt and then have doinst.sh create symlinks to those files needed in /usr/bin? [11:19] overvolt: alsamixer? [11:20] nope, just for up and down the sound you know? [11:20] (this is so I can test packages I make without polluting my fs) [11:20] i want to configure my multimedia keyboard [11:20] last time I took a package I hadn't compiled (mingw64 cc), it required glibc 2.8 while I only had 2.7 [11:20] olefowdie: typically you make that link in the slackbuild, and then makepkg will create a doinst.sh for you [11:20] with xbindkeys [11:20] olefowdie, so long as the binaries you're putting in /opt have compatibility with your Slack yea. Example, openoffice is put in /opt and symlinked over to /usr/bin [11:21] ok, also is there a way to make removepkg kill the symlinks? (thx old_fogie) [11:21] overvolt, such as : # mute volume: [11:21] #"aumix -v0" [11:21] #XF86AudioMute [11:21] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Old_Fogie: amixer sset Master X+ unmute & [11:22] it work this way [11:22] I dont use amixer it's a pain, I use aumix [11:22] hummN [11:22] I'll think about it [11:23] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:24] ther ar stealin ma kernels [11:24] dont take my tux! [11:25] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:25] Zordrak: you ought not talk to him that way, he's juss a boih! [11:25] yep full moon tonight [11:25] really? no-ones mentioned that yet... [11:27] sub [11:27] Next SubGenius holiday: April 13 St Bill Hicks Day [11:27] that'll be a hot one [11:28] killall headache;cat /dev/pills [11:28] tony (n=tony@c-69-249-43-106.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] lol. but to be a proper subgenius you need to make your own religion [11:28] I think we have the church of pom here [11:29] myircclient (n=hugh@218.82.193.97) joined ##slackware. [11:29] FFS! Get a different bus! [11:30] though that is hard to do. who would want to give the glorious face of "Bob" [11:30] Kevin Smith [11:30] hi there, I want to upgrade my 12.2 to 'current'. how to do that? download all the packages and upgrade them one by one? is there a standard or easier way? Thanks. [11:30] myircclient: *read* the documentation? [11:30] myircclient : as a general rule, you don't want to use -current. [11:31] They're conspiring I swear they are! [11:31] myircclient: umm, are you sure you want to do that? [11:31] theyve been plotting together on the bus [11:31] I am with ananke, and personally; if you *need* to ask how to run -current, you shouldn't. :) [11:31] BP{k}: sir, I've tried googled and read some documentation in slackware.com but hasn't found a hint [11:31] this is a hijack, take this bus to the moon! [11:31] myircclient: if you REALLY want to do that, you can point slackpkg to the current repo, and then upgrade [11:31] dive: that is no moon! [11:31] ananke: it's ok. i'm using virtual machine to do that, [11:32] BP{k}, there is no spoon? [11:32] myircclient: go away before i start dropping zombie concrete donkeys [11:32] myircclient : vm or not, that's not the problem. the issue is you wanting to run -current [11:32] dive: indeed, although there is a spork! [11:32] lol yeah [11:32] myircclient: Can you tell us *Why* you want to run -current? [11:32] there may be no spoon, but there is a fork(2) [11:32] praise be [11:33] (morning slackers) [11:33] BP{k}: just for fun [11:33] afternoon [11:33] oh man, I think I changed to many underlying libs in this build... I got broken abiword too in addition to inkscape now :) [11:33] myircclient, JUST SAY NO! [11:33] damn hungry gonna throw a curry in the micro [11:34] eat fast Rush is on in a half hour [11:34] ok, ok. I may have got the wrong place for my question. I will study it myself carefully. :) [11:34] myircclient, check out the slackwiki there's a whole section there on it [11:34] Old_Fogie, yeah, i tune in to 700wlw or 750wsb to hear him... depending upon which half of 75 im on (north or south of tenn) [11:35] i reckon nullboy needs to cron himself keyed entry to the chan for two hours after the schools kick out [11:35] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.192) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] Old_Fogie: thank you. you are very kind [11:35] shhh dont tell anyone, you'll ruin my reputation :) [11:35] heh [11:35] ... [11:35] I'm supposed to be the resident grumpy old man [11:36] Old_Fogie, are you sure that that isn't my job? [11:36] dauphin [11:36] olefowdie, there's room for two, haha [11:36] lol, k. [11:36] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.118.46) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] well, I am off to mess with my crosley and listen to Rush. [11:37] kitche, hey the governor's gonna throw out the baseball today, I gotta watch this, hee hee hee [11:37] olefowdie (n=brad@adsl-176-19-201.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [11:37] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:37] bbl [11:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-76-232.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] woo! [11:40] damnnit.. if id have seen that earlier i could have passed the buck onto #slackware-br [11:41] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] <_RadioHead> time for upgradepkg :) later [11:46] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.255) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] i think it's alright now.. everone can come out of hiding.. the connecting failferry to homework village has been [11:47] lummox (i=lummox@p508DF85D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Action: BP{k} opens the door of the failfalloutshelter [11:51] Action: Necos blinks [11:52] gabriel (n=gabriel@wlan.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:53] wow.. im really impressed at the channel's most used words... [11:54] there Slackware would about think install kernel should using right [11:54] it's almost a sentence and a good one [11:55] funny I would have thought fail or bus would up there [11:55] fail certainly has to be in the top twenty [11:56] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Zordrak: that is not that far of from the typical newbie sentence ;-) [11:57] >.> [11:57] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) joined ##slackware. [11:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:58] BP{k}: its also not far off the typical response [11:58] well.. not the typical response... [11:58] well.. not MY typical response... [11:59] man read docs topic [11:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:00] maybe if i can work hard enough i can get gtfo to the top... [12:01] gabriel (n=gabriel@wlan.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [12:02] Chrishas_ (n=Chrishas@213-72-137.netrun.cytanet.com.cy) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hi,how can i create a /dev/video node for my webcam?its a laptop webcam and iØe loaded the uvc driver but nothing happens [12:03] dmesg? [12:03] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [12:03] lspci? [12:04] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:04] pattwo (n=pat@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:05] uname? [12:05] its a usb cam [12:05] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.167.206) joined ##slackware. [12:05] gtfo [12:05] myircclient (n=hugh@218.82.193.97) left ##slackware. [12:06] Chrishas_, plug it in and check 'dmesg | tail' to see if there's an error or even if it's detected [12:06] hugh: unless you are being intentionally ironic, which i seriously doubt.. change your nick [12:08] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:11] ah latop webcam [12:11] its detected [12:11] hmm [12:11] sounds like a udev problem [12:11] the laptop is acer aspire 3102wlmi [12:11] bah [12:11] who's the resident udev expert today? [12:11] lspci .. [12:12] dive: prolly just wrong module or somethin [12:12] yeah maybe need load module for it [12:12] hence: [12:12] dmesg? [12:12] lspci? [12:12] uname? [12:13] i did modprobe uvcvideo [12:13] Action: Zordrak awards you a medal [12:13] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] if you are sure that's the right module, then I resume my udev banter [12:14] and added it to a list so that it loads automatically on boot [12:14] a list? [12:14] well i couldnt find anything closer [12:14] /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-`uname -r` [12:14] i think it was inittab [12:14] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] o0 [12:14] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.37) joined ##slackware. [12:14] add it to the correct rc.modules file [12:15] dive: leave it.. just leave it.. if he makes it out alive i'll let you have what's left [12:15] heh [12:15] heh <- should be number one in list [12:18] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:19] i'm using open suse,where[ rc.modules? [12:19] GET [12:19] THE [12:19] FUCK [12:19] Channel flood from Zordrak -- kicking [12:19] OUT [12:19] Zordrak kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:19] gtfo [12:19] hahahahahahaha [12:19] lmfao [12:19] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:19] hehehe [12:20] Zordrak: you re a friggin imp man [12:20] I can't stop laughing [12:21] almost spat lamb curry over my lappy [12:21] lol [12:21] roll up and join the freak show [12:23] god damnnit.. that arse mad me forget to install my kernel modules [12:23] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-157.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:23] lol [12:24] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.235.209) left irc: "Leaving" [12:26] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-133-124.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [12:27] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:29] Chrishas_ (n=Chrishas@213-72-137.netrun.cytanet.com.cy) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:30] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Good one Zordrak, hahaha. [12:34] sometimes i almost feel sorry for Zordrak ;) [12:34] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:35] hrm [12:35] that's noobfarm worthy [12:36] lol [12:36] and it's not even weekend [12:36] gonna be fun I can sense it [12:36] i'll be almost famous... [12:37] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1488 [12:37] I am rff work for 9 out of the next 10 days... `screw you guys.. i'm a going heaowm` [12:37] *off [12:37] heh [12:37] rofl Dominian [12:38] see, almost feel sorry for Zordrak [12:38] ;) [12:38] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Action: lowkyalur passes around two bank holidays and another half day of extra hours compensation. [12:38] Zordrak: wait.. if you're off work.. how can you go home? [12:39] *next* 10 days [12:39] Fri-Mon & Weds-Sun [12:39] hehehe [12:39] as of now [12:39] ttfn [12:39] bb [12:43] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:49] eloss (n=ktebit@77.42.226.48) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Is openjdk-6-src-b11-10_jul_2008.tar.gz probably one of the bad ones or one of the broken ones? [12:50] Nick change: eloss -> wamty [12:50] Nick change: wamty -> wamty_ [12:50] wamty_ (n=ktebit@77.42.226.48) left ##slackware. [12:52] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [12:52] broken how? [12:53] Dominian: ! [12:53] Zordrak: ! [12:53] =] hi [12:53] dive: hello and also Necos [12:53] hi [12:53] skelom (n=rayenok@253.Red-88-26-19.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] so what were the choices again? Bad or broken? [12:53] hehehe heya acidchild [12:53] hard to decide which [12:54] WTF am i? chopped liver? [12:54] :) [12:54] Action: Necos stabs antler [12:54] no, _NOW_ you're choppped liver [12:54] well you do insist on hiding over there -> [12:54] hehe [12:55] haha. [12:55] antler: hi? [12:55] CREEP [12:55] =P [12:55] although <- and -> kinda lose meaning with irssi [12:55] yay! hi acidchild :P [12:55] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [12:56] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] :> [12:57] hehehe [12:58] acidchild: sup man [12:58] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Client Quit [12:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqyzDCkHE6s&feature=bz301 [12:58] wicked video by Penn [12:58] skelom (n=rayenok@253.Red-88-26-19.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:58] Will have to watch it later.. at work right now [12:59] ah :P [12:59] acidchild: what you up to? [12:59] just woke up [13:00] hah [13:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-94-89.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hmmmm... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284&CMP=AFC-C8Junction [13:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [13:04] price ain't that great. a 1tb barracuda costs 119.99cdn here. [13:05] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [13:05] didn't say it was great... just thinkin... lol [13:05] antler: from where? [13:06] acidchild: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/Computers(ME)/ComputerComponents(ME)/HardDrives(ME)/SerialATAHardDrives(ME)/Default.aspx [13:06] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] reputable co? [13:06] Necos: yeah, they're not bad [13:07] cool. [13:07] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] lol how much is shipping ;) [13:07] heh do they ship? :P [13:07] oh, i see web orders... [13:08] We are currently unable to accept or ship orders outside of Canada. :( [13:08] Kharec (n=chatzill@88-123-53-115.rev.libertysurf.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] oh well :-P [13:09] fail [13:09] oh the 1.5 tb is on for 154.99. how seductive. [13:10] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:10] i'm building thin clients in to my new pad [13:10] i'm sick of wires :-) [13:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:11] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.153.31) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Kharec (n=chatzill@88-123-53-115.rev.libertysurf.net) left ##slackware. [13:13] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-94-89.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Leaving" [13:13] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-94-89.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [13:14] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] detringj (n=jay@70.234.179.9) left irc: "Leaving" [13:17] antler: 1TB WD is $99 [13:18] i prefer seagate personally, but they did have a bad run of drives [13:20] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host48-0-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [13:21] huk_fin (n=HukFin@61.17.164.209) joined ##slackware. [13:21] my 1TB was 74 euros [13:21] agentc0re|work: cdn? Necos : yeah, i too prefer seagate. personally i stay away from samsungs. period. [13:21] samsung is wack... our lenovo boxes come with those sometimes and they fail frequently [13:22] acidchild: where you going to put the servers? [13:22] antler: newegg [13:22] acidchild: "thin client" servers.. sounds nasty [13:22] agentc0re|work: yeah, is there a newegg.com And a newegg.ca? [13:23] dunno. [13:24] joseph_ (n=joseph@c-24-61-23-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) got netsplit. 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I am looking for simple tweaks to make it fast / more responsive ... [14:17] GOrshkOFF[CHE] (i=500@89.151.135.4) joined ##slackware. [14:17] duryodhan_: fast and responsive here already [14:17] duryodhan_: shut off all the effects [14:18] weird.. I am on a 2GHz core 2 duo and 512MB Nvidia .. [14:18] hmm [14:19] turn off the effects. [14:19] heh then turn on all the fx for fast and responsive :P [14:19] gtg ttyl sorry [14:20] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:24] |ntegra| (n=webferre@118-92-133-18.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Dominian: can't help the fact it crashs every 4 minutes =P [14:24] <|ntegra|> hi [14:24] i guess i'm a 'heavy user' [14:24] <|ntegra|> Is anyone here using lilo? [14:24] ofcourse? [14:24] <|ntegra|> nice1 [14:25] <|ntegra|> heya acidchild [14:25] acidchild: KDE4 NEVER crashes on me :) [14:25] I think its because you're on arch linux [14:26] |ntegra|, me too [14:26] <|ntegra|> I've just started with goblinx and encountered lilo 4d1st... unfortunately I can't configure it [14:27] paste your lilo.conf [14:27] goblinx ? some distro ? [14:27] wtf is goblinx? [14:27] acidchild, nvidia card ? [14:27] goblinx is not slackawre [14:27] apparently its based on Slackware [14:28] |ntegra|: you won't be getting my help in here.. based on does not me it is Slackware [14:28] We don't support Slackware derivitives [14:28] <|ntegra|> Dominian : oh.k.den [14:28] dont know why the f**k some users go into that wild distros [14:28] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:28] um, preference? [14:29] umm why not ? [14:29] <|ntegra|> oh, 4me it's just that it's 100mb/live/5min,install/gtk2-flux [14:29] lack of users , lack of support ? [14:29] <|ntegra|> haha, no (&^'n kidding [14:29] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:30] |ntegra|: why not just use Slackware? Its not that big of a download/install [14:30] there is a problem wit hkde 4 and nvidia drivers that was fixed in the latest release http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.44.html ... " Fixed OpenGL crashes while running KDE4's Plasma " [14:30] <|ntegra|> personally? y.not. but to distribute to windows users? um... [14:30] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) joined ##slackware. [14:31] |ntegra|, u can run it at runlevel 4 , at boot time [14:31] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) joined ##slackware. [14:31] try the 32 bit nvidia link http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.44.html [14:31] finally [14:31] <|ntegra|> ok [14:31] sed -e -i 's/y/why/g' -i 's/u/you/g' [14:32] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) left irc: Client Quit [14:32] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Linux solaris 2.6.29.1-smp #2 SMP Fri Apr 3 01:59:53 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [14:32] at slackware-current [14:33] so nukedclx ? [14:33] thanks goes here for help do that [14:33] slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all ? [14:33] HUGE help :D [14:34] <|ntegra|> blah.d.blah, anyway I have this friend who only uses full-tilt poker and firefox/opera so I thought g:micro (goblinx) would be the ticket for him [14:34] DeeeeP: you forgot slackpkg install-new [14:35] BP{k}, yep , but i believe i pass got my point :) [14:35] s/pass// [14:36] |ntegra|: it may well be just that for him. Nobody is really disputing that. [14:36] |ntegra|, ubuntu [14:37] <|ntegra|> haha, I get the picture.. k.bye [14:37] DeeeeP, no, suggestion about reading UPGRADE and CURRENTWARN [14:37] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] |ntegra| (n=webferre@118-92-133-18.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left ##slackware. [14:39] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] nille_ (i=1000@c-1f62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:40] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.117.59.237) joined ##slackware. [14:41] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.117.59.237) left irc: Client Quit [14:43] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. 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[14:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [15:01] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:07] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-1881.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:13] why should i not update aaa_elflibs? it's blacklisted in slackpkg. [15:14] it contains libraries (sometimes older) that is typically only needed by the installer. other packages override those libraries [15:14] so, updating aaa_elflibs would override those, and break stuff [15:15] oh. so all that's been initially installed with aaa_elflibs is then overridden with actual libs from other packages? [15:15] sounds like a winner [15:17] so like if i still have aaa_elflibs from 12.1 and use -current it's fine cause all the libraries have been upgraded in the corresponding packages. correct? [15:18] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:18] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:19] yeah [15:19] then i don't get the purpose of aaa_elflibs, if they are going to be overwritten in the actual system. [15:20] yes they would be upgraded but the older ones (the ones from 12.1 aaa_elflibs) will also stay [15:20] if you have compiled a program yourself and it needs the version from 12.1 for a library [15:20] it will work fine [15:20] it's used by the installer for older programs... (according to thrice), so it makes sense... they probably don't even change from slackware version to slackware version [15:21] they do change in fact [15:21] *it's used to support older programs [15:21] hmm [15:21] well, the only change would be if glibc changed,i suspect [15:21] or if gcc changed [15:22] i will pretend that i understood the purpose of those libraries :-) (actually i'm still confused) [15:22] slava_dp: you install 12.1, then compile package foo (lets say mplayer for example) it will be linked with the libs from 12.1 [15:23] when you upgrade the libraries to the new versions [15:23] the versions from aaa_elflibs will also be there, so mplayer will continue to work [15:23] well that starts to make sense [15:24] because it's an elf binary...? [15:24] if you use a fully install slackware without anything else compiled by yourself [15:24] i believe that then aaa_elflibs doesn't have a purpose [15:24] i may be wrong though [15:25] okay if it had no purpose it would be removed :) [15:25] *would have been [15:25] will it break anything if I upgradepkg the latest aaa_elflibs from -current? [15:25] chance22: maybe yes maybe not [15:26] chance22, :) see your nick for the answer [15:26] Lord_Khelben: Would you then recommend never upgrading it again? Or just try to figure out what it could compromise? [15:26] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [15:27] slava_dp: I chose that name for specifically that reason =) [15:27] chance22: i think it is blacklisted as it was mentioned earlier [15:27] so it isn't meant to be upgraded [15:27] if you do a full upgrade from 12.1 -> 12.2 for example, you should (as the older versions may be linked to older libs) [15:28] i don't think he would even with a full upgrade [15:28] s/would/should/ [15:28] it's in the upgrade.txt [15:28] hmm. i upgraded from 12.1 to 12.2 then to -current (with slackpkg). and i never upgraded aaa_elflibs. so i guess they shouldn't be upgraded. [15:29] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138232176.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:29] upgradepkg */*.tgz [15:29] chubs (n=joseph@c-24-61-23-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:29] which would include a/* [15:30] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [15:30] correct. using upgradepkg you will wind up upgrading aaa_elflibs too. using slackpkg you won't though. [15:30] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:31] should ask alien or rworkm.. about them [15:31] they're blacklisted [15:31] read /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [15:31] dive, i know [15:31] the question was precisely why so. [15:31] he was asking if he should upgrade them... [15:32] I'll keep that in mind for the future. Thanks all for the input. [15:32] Dominian: I only found the Enable Desktop Effects checkbox - anythig I am missing ? [15:32] wait a minute, dos slackpkg upgrade glic too? [15:32] someone installs 12.2 and aaa_elflibs contains libfreetype.so.6.3.18 [15:32] *does [15:32] Necos, yes [15:32] slava_dp: I learn by breaking things. chance + catch 22, therefore chance22. [15:32] then he compiles mplayer which links to it [15:32] when he upgrades to -current or 12.3 or whatever [15:33] and in general, what widgets do people in ##slackware like ? KDE4 .. [15:33] by default it upgrades everything except elflibs [15:33] a new freetype package gets installed which contains libfreetype.so.6.3.20 [15:33] <3 [15:33] ha ha ha [15:33] mplayer will continue to work because the old library exists from aaa_elflibs [15:33] Lord_Khelben: but usually both would be symlinked to libfreetype.so [15:33] Necos: yes but there is a chance its not [15:33] agreed [15:34] my ffmpeg binary is linked to libx264.so.65 and when i upgrade libx264 i need to upgrade it too [15:34] thank goodness for modern software development >.> [15:34] i believe that is the purpose of aaa_elflibs [15:34] interesting [15:34] if you don't compile anything and only use slackware packages then you can upgrade aaa_elflibs [15:34] sounds reasonable [15:34] if after upgrading slackware you recompile every app you compiled yourself then again you can upgrade aaa_elflibs [15:34] i compile plenty, but i didn't do a full upgrade on this box either... i probably should [15:35] i may be wrong of course but i think it goes this way [15:35] robby, eric should have more educated answer [15:36] according to slack-desc "This package should be not upgraded or reinstalled (it could copy over newer library versions). [15:36] " [15:37] basically it's a collection of libs from other packages that would come with a default slackware install [15:37] like if you only install the a/ series you will get them in all cases. [15:38] newer packages should overwrite these old libraries, so in essense, you don't need to upgrade it (but you would according to upgrade.txt) [15:38] maybe for that. [15:38] they shall ever remain a mystery [15:38] only "Bob" shall know the truth [15:39] Action: Necos stabs dive [15:39] and you won't be around to tell about it ^_^ [15:39] :) [15:39] keoni (i=1000@208.106.15.140) joined ##slackware. [15:40] basically, any time you upgrade a package, you'd be mucking with elflibs... [15:40] let's see. when you upgrade like upgrade.txt suggests (upgradepkg */*.tgz) it installs series in the alphabetical order. so a/ with aaa_elflibs goes head first and then all the other libs from l/ overwrite 'em. [15:40] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] it's a bit like the offside rule in football - we all know it's there and some have even fathomed the meaning, but will ever remain one of the last great mysteries of life [15:40] that's how i understood it [15:40] exactly [15:40] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.39) joined ##slackware. [15:40] as far as i know you should upgrade glibc-so first [15:40] So I am backing up a / dir on my server with rdiff-backup and it is taking a longgg time, and the amount of backed up data at the destination is fluctuating...at times shrinking...and I am very confused.a [15:41] slackpkg does any glibc-so upgrades before anything else [15:41] glibc-solibs and pkgtools first then all else [15:41] slava_dp: yes, but upgradepkg does not update or reinstall anything that is already installed [15:41] nullboy, right... but it seems those are not overwritten by anything else [15:41] yeah I've noticed that it does that automagically [15:41] so if aaa_elflibs overwrites a library from openssl, and openssl was not updated, it may remain broken [15:41] yes it might [15:42] bottom line is, if you upgrade you should upgrade completely [15:42] but elflibs is usually processed first [15:42] nullboy, that's what i said =p [15:42] le' sigh [15:42] there is no reason to upgrade aaa_elflibs, nor should it ever be considered [15:42] s/usually//; [15:43] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:43] so who's the man who submitted the dsniff SBo build? [15:43] grazymax (n=grazymax@host186-167-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:43] thrice`: and a complete upgrade a la upgrade.txt would not bother the balance of the force either [15:43] speak up dude [15:44] imagine the case where i only use the base system -- a/. so all the libs i get are the aaa_elflibs. then i guess i should be upgrading them :-) [15:44] no one wants to take credit [15:44] slava_dp: but i'm gonna drop the subject myself... we just sound like a bunch of idiots at this point :) [15:45] ok, end of story. that was a long discussion on a small topic :) [15:45] it's bad though to leave this hanging - we need to know why, after all we are slackers [15:45] it's our job to know [15:45] Action: Necos stabs dive [15:45] will ask eric or robby when they get online. [15:45] i thought i got rid of you already >.> [15:46] Necos, I got no more blood left [15:46] Action: dive is zombiefied [15:46] cause i would guess debian (for example) comes without aaa_elflibs. [15:46] Action: Necos pulls out the 12guage [15:46] rofl [15:47] debian is fail anywho >.> [15:47] that was a hint [15:47] not a big fail. or is it? [15:48] http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 [15:49] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:49] fiya_werkin (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] makes sense now? [15:50] wow took 2 years before anyone noticed [15:50] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138232176.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:51] fedora did something just as wtfbbqroflcoptergay recently [15:51] gabriel (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [15:52] it's because they tend to patch things in their packages unneccesarily [15:53] I liked redhat when I tried it - thought fc would be as good = err [15:53] thought I was installing ubuntnot [15:54] lol [15:55] it was funny when i tried to remove python in fedora 10 and it tried to uninstall like 50 other programs [15:55] ouch [15:55] *50 other packages [15:55] GOrshkOFF[CHE] (i=500@89.151.135.4) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [15:55] had a lamp setup in 10 minutes in RH [15:56] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] very nice and doesn't insist on graphical [15:56] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:56] yeah like why do you need python-based programs when you have no python. makes some sense :-) [15:56] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) joined ##slackware. [15:57] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138232176.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:58] it's because the packaging process was so fubar'd [16:03] yeah boy nutha invoice out! [16:03] why do distros patch upstream software. as if they gain something by doing it. [16:03] an easy one for today; move a coax and cat5 drop 15 feet and set it up with a wall box [16:06] Check whether your key is affected by running the ssh-vulnkey tool, included in the security update. [16:06] i wonder. so many problems from nothing. [16:06] I was highlighted... [16:07] they patch upstream software cause they have the freedom to do so (because they can) [16:08] sometimes the patches are useful... stuff like "stop it from segfaulting" [16:08] hey is there a way to force apache to make all connections turn into https connections? currently, i can go to http://127.0.0.1 and it stays plaintext. i'd like to make it so all connections (no matter if http or https was used) end up being https [16:08] stunnel would work actually [16:09] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [16:09] nullboy: you mean, you want HTTPS over port 80? Browsers won't know what to do with that, unless users know to use https://nullboy.org:80/whatever [16:09] no [16:09] let me re-explain [16:09] yah [16:09] couldnt you just redirect 80 - 443 or whatever it is [16:09] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) left ##slackware. [16:09] .htaccess? [16:10] i've seen sites on the internet that end up becoming https even if i navigate to the site via http [16:10] write a php redirect [16:10] index.php with one functon that redirects to https://yoursite [16:10] yeah, one line of PHP would be sufficient, and have all port 80 http requests go there [16:10] so no matter what it;s a redirect situation? [16:10] yeah [16:10] yeah [16:10] because of the port difference right? [16:10] yeah [16:11] because of the protocol difference [16:11] sorta [16:11] protocol diff [16:11] k [16:11] nullboy: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect [16:11] thanks fellows [16:11] Lord_Khelben: perfect [16:11] you could make a small html/php as other suggested or try the redirect directive [16:11] and actually, it has to do with well-known port numbers [16:11] if the url starts with http://, the browser won't know WTF to do if the server tries to negotiate SSL [16:12] i had it over simplified i my head but i got it now thanks [16:12] i/in [16:12] because they expect HTTP over port 80 (but it didn't have to be that way) [16:12] in fact a meta tag in html would do it [16:12] heh, 1 line of javascript would do it too [16:13] meta refresh= [16:13] i line of php anyone? :) [16:13] s/i/1 [16:13] think you can use apache's rewrite engine to replace all http://whatever with https://whatever [16:13] i actually use the javascript trick for my boss's website [16:13] I would still go with .htaccess though [16:13] makerc (n=makerc@201-42-160-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:13] gabriel (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] dive: why use .htaccess when he has access to the apache config ? [16:14] it's portable? [16:14] like, browser goes to arbitrary http URL on your site, apache redirects it to the same URL with https: on the front [16:14] Lord_Khelben, portability [16:14] well apache config if he has it [16:14] Action: andreas-- slaps Lord_Khelben around a large kokoretsi [16:14] the browser would see a 302 or whatever the code is for "moved permanently" [16:15] but it's usually easier to edit a .htaccess and not have to restart apache [16:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] Or hotlinker links to image on site; .htaccess redirects the image request to lemonparty [16:15] lol [16:15] lol [16:15] Action: nullboy barfs [16:15] what's lemonparty? [16:15] hahaha [16:16] oh no [16:16] slava_dp: unask the question! [16:16] not again [16:16] he he [16:16] oh noes [16:16] shall we send him to one of the leecherse? [16:16] Here.. look at the background on this site ATTENTION: NSFW! http://www.myspace.com/ROCXSTARTHU6 [16:16] this channel needs .htaccess [16:16] this channel needs .denyDominianaccess [16:16] lol [16:17] dive: usually the allowoverride is none so he would have to also edit the config and restart apache even if he used .htaccess [16:17] Hey.. its a brilliant piece of apache/.htaccess magic [16:17] iz dat da lemonparty? mwahaha [16:17] slava_dp: You see that background.. tiled.. couple of old guys? [16:17] yes [16:17] he he [16:17] I had to disinfect my eyeballs while I was adding the "I got caught leeching' message [16:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:20] LakesProse (n=chatzill@modemcable042.135-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:20] lol [16:20] Of course there's also that site where you those guys _moving_ [16:20] why is the name lemonparty? because of the yellow colour? [16:21] Action: slava_dp is awfully curious today [16:21] Curiosity killed the cat you know [16:21] Action: slava_dp kills another one [16:21] as long as it only killed him 1 to 8 times he's OK [16:21] apparently, dumbassery killed the car and curiosity was framed [16:21] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) left irc: Connection timed out [16:22] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [16:22] andreas--: hi to you too :) [16:22] =) [16:23] or 1 to 6 times if you are greek [16:23] alienBOB, while you're here could you please tell me the purpose of aaa_elflibs. we had a fruitful discussion here but we could not come to a definitive answer. [16:23] we [16:23] (cat is believed to have 7 lives here) [16:23] must know [16:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:24] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] The aaa_elflibs will for ever remain a mystery. The secret was taken along when the Elves left these lands [16:24] crap [16:24] aaa_elvenlibs? [16:24] :/ [16:24] TheBig (n=TheBig@host55-117-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:24] truth please [16:25] Basically, it's like the slack-desc tells you. What else would you like to know? [16:25] erm. why must i not upgrade them? [16:25] "This package should be not upgraded or reinstalled (it could copy over newer library versions)." [16:26] slava_dp: because everything which is contained in aaa_elflibs is also present in other packages already [16:26] I've read that compiling/installing some software overwrites the elflibs? [16:26] or did I misunderstand? [16:26] dive: other slackware packages overwrite the stuff from elflibs [16:26] Look inside. The libraries in aaa_elflibs are harvested from existing and old Slackware packages [16:27] it's on purpose [16:27] Especially the old packages [16:27] but why are the elflibs there in the first place? [16:27] slava_dp: so you can install a bare minimum system with only a/ and have it boot [16:28] That is basically the purpose yes [16:28] fine, thanks :) [16:28] slackbunny (n=slackbun@173.9.254.98) left irc: [16:28] You do not need to install the L/ series to get all the binaries in A? and AP/ running [16:28] Action: slava_dp 's mind is finally at peace [16:28] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:28] also, some of the doinst.sh scripts run certain commands... if the libs needed by some command are in a different package, Pat would have to invent some fancier scheme to guarantee the order the packages get installed [16:28] ah right, thanks ab :-) [16:29] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [16:29] Therefore it is not called zzz_elflibs [16:29] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) joined ##slackware. [16:29] it is when we've been discussing it for 3 hours [16:30] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) joined ##slackware. [16:31] so er.. what we talking about before? [16:31] ;P [16:31] so it's all because we have no dependency tracking. we have to guarantee the presence of a bare minimum of libraries at all times. nice workaround ;) [16:31] beer? [16:31] something is up out in the pacific. i've been seeing a lot of military aircraft operating over the last week. [16:31] eh? [16:31] yes beer is good. BP{k} isn't here to tell us his latest brew though [16:31] lots of high and fast stuff, and some fighter jets [16:32] still better than the kitchen sink method [16:32] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:32] pacific? dunno but there were some pirates in the Atlantic I think [16:32] arrr, matey! [16:32] took captain of some US merchant ship hostage [16:32] it's actually quite funny [16:33] not to the captain it probably isn't [16:33] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [16:33] 1) Pirates try to storm ship 2) Crew drives them off and they escape in a lfeboat 3) US Desotroyer arrives [16:34] they took the captain in the lifeboat with them? [16:34] so there's these pirates + hostage in a lifeboat with a destroyer with guns pointing at them [16:34] yes [16:34] cute [16:34] see who runs out of food and water first [16:34] the captain. [16:35] heh [16:35] then the cannibals eat the captain [16:35] they might have been planning on using the captain as a backup food supply [16:35] well they aren't terrorists - there is no honour in death for them, they just wanted money [16:35] I say they will give up [16:35] painted on the side of the lifeboat: SS H. Lector [16:35] i say some country should just send out a container ship full of nothing, just empty containers, along with 100 marines inside the ship [16:35] lol! [16:36] i hope that once the captain is rescued, they'll blow them into tiny bits [16:36] let the pirates try to take over a ship filled with military people [16:36] dive: Couldn't be worse than the time the Somali pirates tried to storm what they thought was a random frigate, that just *happened* to have a group of SAS soldiers on it... [16:36] then, since the containers are empty, you load the pirates up into one and throw it to the bottom of the sea [16:36] the hell with afghanistan. put our military into some actual use [16:37] arr, send 'em to Davy Jones' locker [16:37] the sharks gotta eat too [16:37] i read a story that somali natives relate to the pirates as national heroes. that's why there are so many now. [16:37] I don't know how US Navy is doing right now but British is being cut down to almost nothing... that's one of the biggest reasons these pirates are springing up, in my mind at least [16:38] we used to have most shipping routes sown up [16:38] the british used to sponsor "pirates" back in the 18th/19th century, didn't they? [16:38] (where the word "privateer" comes from?) [16:38] Uhh, that or the fact that Somalia allegedly doesn't even have a government at the moment... [16:38] the british needs a strong navy & marine combo [16:38] Action: dive hides [16:38] you know, because of the "stabilizing western influence" [16:38] heri0n (n=heri0n@bas6-hamilton14-1176216338.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:38] booby trap a whole ship with explosives and send it out into somali waters under remote control. let pirates get it. blow up ship. profit [16:39] Action: slava_dp rocks his head with the guns n' roses "chinese democracy" [16:40] slava_dp: good call. I don't care what anyone says I think it's a great album! :D [16:40] eviljames, me too. [16:41] lol [16:41] nullboy... the obligatory slashdot idea =p [16:42] Yea, except it would be a miserable pile of fail at best :D [16:42] not really... [16:42] lol [16:42] It's not that these pirates are doing this for fun or profit (well, some profit) [16:43] well whatever they are doing it for, it is still *real* piracy [16:43] They're from a desperately poor country and probably searching more for food than money. Though money buys food... [16:43] you can catch quite a few bees with the right honey =p [16:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [16:43] Solving at least some of the poverty of Somalia would have 100x the effect of blowing up 20 pirates. [16:43] food tanker full of crew with bombs strapped to their asses [16:43] how do you "solve" poverty though? [16:43] you don't [16:43] you don't [16:43] It doesn't have to be solved, just made slightly more equitable. [16:43] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) left irc: "Leaving." [16:43] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) joined ##slackware. [16:44] trying to "solve" social problems created part of the stupid overspending that got us in to this mess =p [16:44] yeah [16:44] frigging welfare [16:44] eviljames, nope they hold ships for ransom and shipping companies pay a *lot* [16:44] money ->>> food [16:44] these gangs are run by some gansta [16:45] yeah right and he shares it out? sure [16:45] Some of those freighters are carrying humanitarian supplies (food, medical) to Somalia. Isn't it warlords capturing and profiting from the piracy? [16:45] yes [16:45] or at least that's the way i hear it [16:45] ah soad [16:45] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [16:45] That's hopelessly inaccurate. [16:45] TheBig (n=TheBig@host55-117-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] While semi-true, it is certainly not the root cause at all. [16:46] It's not like a fatcat warlord is sitting around eating all the humanitarian supplies themselves. [16:46] eviljames, like I said before they ransom the ship as is for a lot of money [16:46] hm, you guys might know, there was some site that would "show you" how to google a term that you could send to people who keep asking questions, anyone remember / see it? [16:46] the shipping company et al pay up [16:47] "justfuckinggoogleit.com" maybe? [16:47] especially is crew are held too [16:47] lmgtfy [16:47] They aren't taking or hoarding the supplies, they're holding the cargoes and ships for ransom, right? [16:47] http://lmgtfy.com/ [16:47] Urchlay: thats what i thought but that just looks like a gotcha site [16:47] chance22, yes [16:47] tinyurl it [16:47] oh letmegooglethatforya [16:47] nullboy: perfect, thanks [16:48] letmeyahoothatforyou.com [16:49] system of a down are/were such a fscking great band.. [16:49] heh yeah [16:49] Yea, in '99 maybe. [16:49] I actually had some woman on the phone tell me to google something, and it didn't come up for me... so she said "Oh, I googled it on yahoo" [16:49] Anything post the album w/ the hand on the cover by System of a Down straight-up sucks. [16:49] lol [16:49] They're Limp Bizkit w/o the rapping and with a horrid singer. [16:49] steal this album is a good compo though [16:49] hahahahaha [16:49] yahoo had a result that google didn't? blasphemy! [16:49] Urchlay, lol [16:50] dive: Steal This Album = their demo tape remastered. THey were throwing them around when they played the 2nd stage of ozzfest. [16:50] ah [16:50] google probably had it, but she was telling me "google it and click the 2nd link", which was clearly wrong [16:50] dive: that is to say, pre self-titled album. [16:50] ahh heh [16:50] right - go it on now.. loud [16:50] thats like the whole "coke" thing down south [16:50] Urchlay: that's great lol [16:50] i'll have a coke, what kind? sprite [16:50] yeah. Pepsi-brand coke [16:51] oddest conversation I ever heard [16:51] lol [16:51] the bottom line is money, nobody gives a fsck [16:51] that's actually getting less common (I'm in the sticks outside Atlanta, haven't heard "coke" used to refer to sprite/mt.dew/etc in a while) [16:51] fiya_werkin: and if you order tea, expect it to come with ice and a lemon wedge [16:51] sorry a karaoke moment there [16:52] chance22: and a bunch of sugar [16:52] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:52] then again, we call them trays of pizza, which i hear is odd elsewhere [16:52] when i was living in NY i asked for a tray and the lady just stared at me [16:52] tray, meaning what? one slice? the whole pie? [16:52] i don't think I've ever heard pizza refered to as anything [16:52] hah "pie" [16:52] whole pie yeah [16:53] I haven't heard tray used in that context either. [16:53] I've never heard anyone call a pizza a "pie" outside of the internet. [16:53] Nor tray for that matter. [16:53] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:53] pizza pie [16:53] soad [16:53] eviljames: you would have if you'd spent your teenage years working in pizza places [16:53] Urchlay: I spent my teenage years working in a butcher shop. [16:53] hi, does anyone know why there isn't a slackbuilds.org package for vlc? [16:53] when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie thats amore [16:53] eviljames: you probably know all kinds of meat-related jargon then [16:53] blkdg: because building it is epic [16:53] blkdg, I think alienBOB has one on his site [16:54] northeast PA here, its a tray! heh, although the whole town i live in prides itself on pizza, and a lot of them are pretty unique [16:54] blkdg: look at what alienBOB did [16:54] get the slackware pacakge from vlc's website [16:54] you'll see why [16:54] Action: straterra builds it effortlessly on Gentoo.. [16:54] i just found it at alienBOB 's [16:54] thanks. [16:54] Urchlay: I didn't pay attention to jargon. I was the cutter, responsible for some gruesome aspects. I won't delve into detail. :P [16:54] NY style pizza [16:55] i really have no idea how big it is, if it's as big as scribus is - thanks alienBob! [16:55] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.138.114) joined ##slackware. [16:55] The 1960s and 1970s saw the growth of what has become the borough's trademark, the pizza business. The origins of selling pizza are believed to be rooted within the Ghigiarelli family, when Mrs. Ghigiarelli used to serve her homemade pizza to coal miners who gathered to play cards. This led to what is known as "Old Forge Pizza." This pizza is typically rectangular in shape with a balanced tangy sauce, and topped with a creamie [16:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:55] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] whoa [16:55] bit bigger than i thought heh [16:55] eviljames: for some reason I'm picturing the Swedish Chef trying to make a "chocolate moose", with a muppet moose and a chainsaw... [16:55] that's what she said fiya_werkin .... [16:55] (did I hallucinate that, or was that really on the muppet show once?) [16:55] zing [16:55] >.> [16:55] sorry couldn\t resist [16:55] "bork bork bork" [16:56] Urchlay: My cutting started while the animal was still technically "alive". [16:56] Urchlay: Though, there was a fair bit of chainsaw after it died. [16:56] you mean "lady here's your pizza. And here's your pepperoni...' 'Aaaaagh...' [16:56] or maybe it was a cow... he drew chalk lines all over its body and was explaining where the different cuts of meat come from [16:56] then he fires up a chainsaw and starts chasing the cow around the kitchen [16:56] fiya_werkin, cheech and chong [16:56] LakesProse (n=chatzill@modemcable042.135-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:56] thanks again for the vlc info and for the pkg/ [16:56] lol [16:56] bahahah Urchlay.. I seem to recall similar :D [16:57] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:57] blkdg, np [16:57] . [16:57] so either it was real, or else great minds hallucinate alike... [16:58] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-193670.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:58] wow, now i wanna see that ep... [16:59] would have seen it 20+ years ago, no idea how to go about finding it now [17:01] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) left irc: Connection timed out [17:03] hmmm, i wonder if there's a wiki for that lol [17:04] Lord_Khelben (n=null@188.4.250.105) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:05] tem [17:05] them even [17:05] omfg >.> [17:05] muppetpedia? [17:05] i forgot about vlc using the qt4 libs [17:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAsYwW7pt7o [17:05] ha [17:06] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-173-79-56-44.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Urchlay: ^^ [17:06] WOW [17:06] fiya_werkin: your googlefu is great! [17:06] :D [17:06] slackerpete (n=slackerp@86.154.107.112) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] i have a really strange meeting today with that guy who approached me about network security...it's odd [17:07] Necos, you can get the older one (0.8.x), it uses gtk. [17:07] yeah, but the chainsaw isnt in it [17:07] ah here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otb7BjCJN_A [17:07] i'm still not sure if it's someone doing recon on me or if it is legit [17:08] here he is making donuts by shooting the holes in them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbs64GvGgPU [17:08] Did you whip it out and skull fuck him, nullboy? [17:08] what came first the muppet or the muppet show? [17:08] dunneaux [17:08] didn't Sesame Street exist before the Muppet Show? [17:09] clangers! [17:09] straterra: I ran out of chloroform on the chick i met right before him [17:09] ah [17:09] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] so er what sort of stuff did he ask? [17:10] and was he a mib? [17:10] he directly targeted me as a 'networking' person. i didn't even have gear with me or anything [17:10] lol [17:10] limac (n=chatzill@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:10] omfg and we used to make kids watch this shit [17:10] nullboy, does 'gear' have the same meaning over there? [17:11] aka drugs [17:11] no.. [17:11] equipment [17:11] dive: ? i had no bags, no laptops, no tech other than my phone [17:11] no, he didn't have any of his tools [17:11] that's a relief ;) [17:11] except his.. er forget it [17:11] >.> [17:11] dive fails [17:11] never [17:12] always [17:12] nullboy: where are you meeting him? [17:12] chopp: in a public place, a restaurant [17:12] a date [17:12] aye [17:12] i'm even showing [17:12] showering* [17:12] lol [17:12] nullboy is letting it all hang out [17:13] letting what hang out? his null pointer? [17:13] lol [17:13] hey don't talk about my null pointers [17:13] pop his stack [17:13] why? They are null [17:14] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:14] eh, he has more than one pointer? [17:14] nullboy: you can handle the situation. I'm sure you're just over reacting like I probably would. [17:14] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:14] Bring a tape recorder [17:14] chopp: yeah, the whole thing just seems odd but i am known to have a tinfoil hat issue [17:14] and be like "taped your bitch ass" [17:14] monstro (n=monstro@201-92-51-116.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:14] sure, a guy comes up to you in the street and says 'you look like a networking kind of guy. let's do dinner' [17:15] dive: strange right? [17:15] Ola pessoal, [17:15] o [17:15] I> [17:15] I go "You look like the next guy to be in a hole in my basement..lets do dinner" [17:15] monstro (n=monstro@201-92-51-116.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:15] It puts the lotion on its skin [17:15] lol [17:15] or [17:16] it gets the hose [17:16] again [17:16] then I'd make a nice nullboy shirt [17:16] lol [17:16] 'fuck it, hose sounds more fun..' [17:16] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "RAH" [17:17] that would be a great shirt lol [17:17] no it wouldnt [17:17] wish I still had my t-shirt... Mr. Spock's head grafted onto a cartoon S&M chick body [17:17] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-70-234.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] it said "Beat me up, Scotty!" [17:17] Cause then I'd walk around..and some random guy would be like "You look like a networking guy..wanna do dinner?" [17:17] all because i had a nullboy shirt on [17:17] rofl [17:17] StevenR_ (n=foo@user-514ffcbe.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:17] nullware [17:18] i think this is gonna be a soad night [17:18] now i've started.. [17:19] I hope the neighbours aren't working tomorrow early [17:19] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-198747.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:19] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [17:19] lol [17:20] Lord_Khelben (n=null@188.4.250.105) joined ##slackware. [17:20] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] I put an unpatched, unfirewalled XP SP2 machine on the internet..and it hasnt been compromised yet [17:20] khelben returns [17:20] no way [17:20] :) hello again [17:20] straterra: lol [17:20] straterra: what for? [17:20] straterra, how long ago? [17:20] Like 2 hours ago [17:20] should have done it with XP w/o SPs... then i would have been impressed [17:20] thumbs: Do you read xkcd? [17:20] straterra: we should turn this into a betting game. 'how long 'till pwned' [17:20] lol [17:20] straterra: occasionally [17:21] I once had to put a 2k box on with no firewall, lasted like 10 mins [17:21] Did you read the one where he set up a virus farm and watched his network get owned and replicate and such? [17:21] I'm doing the same [17:21] lol [17:21] heh [17:21] I have a virtual network with unpatched XP machines [17:21] and one machine is DMZ'd [17:21] lol [17:21] straterra you need to turn on the win box ;) [17:21] the win machine is on [17:21] nothing has happened yet [17:21] in the gcc-4.3.3 package in -current there are the following binaries: gc-analyze gjar gjavah gorbd grmid gserialver gtnameserv. shouldn't they belong to the gcc-java package ? [17:22] Its been 2 hours [17:22] straterra, nothing you know about [17:22] (in gcc-4.2.4 these didn't exist) [17:22] Action: slava_dp waves everyone goodnight [17:22] Lord_Khelben, packackes sometimes change for inexplicable reasons [17:22] Action: aperturefever waves to everyone goodnight [17:22] not that i mind. i never use them anyway. i am just curious [17:22] slava_dp, nn [17:23] nn [17:23] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-193670.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "zZzZz" [17:23] I was hoping conficker would have hit it by now [17:23] straterra: you have closed the firewall ? [17:23] s/closed/disabled/ [17:23] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left ##slackware ("ZzZzZ"). [17:23] correct [17:24] tried an nmap of it? just to check what's available. [17:24] straterra: what provider is it plugged into? [17:24] i think sp2 introduced a firewall that is on by default [17:24] you should try one with no SP, then one with SP1, SP2, SP3... [17:24] Lord_Khelben: it did..i turned it off [17:24] nmap [17:24] nullboy: at&t dsl [17:24] straterra i will now hold you personally resonsable for every spam mail i get ;) [17:25] straterra: hmm, i bet if it was cable it would get owned quicker [17:25] only if home.fuhell.com, fuhell.com, or projectstfu.com matches the ip for the spam [17:25] nullboy: agreed [17:25] in my univ the average time is < 3min [17:25] I also DMZ'd my linode and have everything going to it from both Linode IP's too [17:25] cable is like sex in the ghetto with no rubber [17:25] for a new box to catch a worm/virus/whatever [17:26] it's really really fast but it does catch up to you sooner or later [17:26] heh, i have Time Warner [17:26] Not Shaw Cable :D [17:26] i'm on charter cable [17:26] It's just fast. (25MBdown/2MBup) [17:27] eviljames: thats for sure. [17:27] i was getting 1MB down the other day, and i was like "i'm not even paying for this speed" >.> [17:27] i just got upgraded apparently - 2mb to 10mb [17:27] still waiting to find the difference except that cap come sin faster [17:28] I want to upgrade to 100MB/100MB ='( [17:28] and that's not even expensive ;p [17:28] Camarade_Tux you will find that slow with time [17:28] oh, it's only 100/50 [17:28] i have 24mb/1mb (of which the modem synchronises at 19mbit/1mbit and i download with max 150kb/sec) [17:29] nille_, yeah, that's sure [17:29] What are some websites that have web targeted viruses and such? [17:29] i know for sure :p [17:29] lol [17:29] http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1 [17:30] chopp: dunno about you, but they're the monopoly that I can live with. [17:30] chopp: Telus, Rogers, all the other arms of Canada's oligopoly are obnoxious. Shaw has been a breeze. [17:30] here is what is wrong with the infrastructure "In both instances, saboteurs had to lift heavy manhole covers to get to the cables. They would have to have been equipped with heavy-duty cutting equipment to slice through the thick rubber coating surrounding the cables." <--oh no, they didn't need the cutters to cut any locks or anything like that, the only security they had was a manhole cover? gg [17:31] why isn't stuff like that locked down? [17:32] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Why isnt this windows box owned?! [17:32] straterra, ip? [17:32] home.fuhell.com [17:32] gg [17:33] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: No route to host [17:33] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] eviljames: I've used them all. I hate telus with a passion, but the people that own the house where I'm staying are through them so ... [17:34] Lord_Khelben (n=null@188.4.250.105) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:35] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] glen_ (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:38] straterra, nmap with no options not resolving ip [17:38] yes it is..you're nmapping me lol [17:38] i see it [17:38] it's working fine here [17:38] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:38] haha you wish you knew who it was!!! [17:38] muhahaha [17:38] pwned [17:38] results shortly [17:39] nullboy: 1 sec [17:39] ;p [17:39] You're going to get mixed results [17:39] did i trigger some shit? [17:39] No [17:39] you damn tcp fingerprint modder [17:40] moddin' this, moddin' that [17:40] nmap -PE -v -sV -sU -p1-65535 -PA -A -T4 is doing stuff... [17:40] nullboy: no no [17:40] nullboy: I had it setup to anything the server didnt accept, it'd nat and send to the XP mchine [17:40] machine^ [17:40] lol [17:40] I'm going to have it just send everything [17:40] so, you'd get hits like port 80 and 22 [17:40] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] done [17:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.39) left irc: [17:41] Also..you're pissing off snort :P [17:42] straterra i see an linux box with an router infront of it [17:42] No..the router is linux [17:43] and as of now, its just forwarding everything to the XP machine [17:43] ooh that explains it [17:43] even port 50001? [17:44] everything [17:44] but you have the win original firewall up [17:44] No I dont [17:44] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:45] It is off [17:45] the XP machine sees all of that nmap [17:45] why does it filter some ports then? [17:45] ISP does port filtering [17:45] ok [17:45] i was just about to say that [17:45] looks like they are blocking a lot [17:46] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: "[BX] Were you born a fat, slimy, scumbag, puke, piece of shit or did you have to work on it?" [17:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:46] like what? [17:46] well ipc and netbios are up but it took 'kin ages to get there [17:47] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:47] hi [17:47] http://pastebin.ca/1387491 [17:48] I think the problem with why you aren't getting infected is the amount of time it takes to detect an open port [17:48] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] Or maybe thats just you :P [17:48] most things would give up at timeout [17:48] shut it [17:49] everything is closed for me: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12349 [17:49] nullboy: the wireless-testing tree is at 2.6.30 rc1 now. [17:49] but that was a connect() [17:49] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:50] nmap fail [17:50] i only tried connect() though [17:50] and you probably gave up your position! [17:50] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:50] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [17:50] haha [17:50] Do whatever you want [17:51] he just wants our virii, ignore him [17:51] lol [17:51] i do [17:51] i could set up 2k on a vm and see what it picks up [17:51] cant be arsed right now though [17:51] you dirty bastard straterra [17:52] Me? [17:52] yes lol [17:52] Why? [17:52] you want our virii [17:52] i still can't get over 'open 1 port in 2k packet filtering needs reboot' [17:52] or change anything in it [17:53] one fsking port change needs reboot... [17:53] XP is unphased by your nmaps! [17:53] someone, set us up the metasploit [17:53] oh i'll do it [17:53] you watch. [17:53] lol [17:53] metasploit weee! [17:53] here we go [17:53] Do it [17:53] I DARE YOU [17:53] do it! [17:54] I TRIPLE dog dare you [17:54] [17:54] I give him a blind worms chance of success [17:54] http://nille.pastebin.com/d5a52c11d [17:55] ooooh nille_ haz hax [17:55] thats what i got you slow coach! [17:55] posted it at least 2 hours ago [17:55] well i got more ports [17:56] i bet 22 and 80 are closed/filtered now [17:56] 3389 is open though..terminal services left open on purpose :) [17:56] Hm... I can't seem to get the Slack 1.2 installer to see the install DVD... [17:56] you got 22 25 and 80 cos i dinbt scan for those [17:56] Another scan inbound [17:58] lol [17:58] someone likes terminal services [17:58] which leads me to believe...nullboy [17:58] connection closed [17:58] now it looks like an Microsoft Windows XP SP2 :) [17:58] nope guess again [18:00] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.183) joined ##slackware. [18:00] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] no route to host now [18:00] I think your internet sucks :P [18:00] I know it does [18:01] lol [18:01] dive fails yet again [18:01] see what i mean? [18:04] i fail at getting anywhere with this [18:04] Necos, shu tit [18:04] if only i knew tftp [18:04] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:04] lol [18:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:05] i just connected to terminal services and offered up such commands as 'straterra sucks' and stuff [18:05] lol [18:05] thought he might be able to read that [18:05] hey straterra did you disable autoupdate? [18:05] yeah [18:05] ah, lol [18:06] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [18:06] mth_ (n=mth@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [18:06] nullboy: any luck [18:07] gkkk (n=gynterk@78-28-94-89.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Leaving" [18:07] nope [18:07] those damn filtered ports are killing us [18:07] hi all [18:07] :D [18:07] nullboy: well... [18:08] I dont think there are any filtered on my linode :P [18:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:08] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-1881.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [18:08] lol [18:09] damn, this slackbuild for vlc is gnarly [18:09] well the rpc and ds stuff should be easy to crack but funcked if I know how [18:10] Action: alienBOB is gnarled and old too [18:13] gonna try it out and see how it goes [18:13] i guess that windows virii writers know about that stuff [18:13] of course... they're pretty smart people [18:13] I have a PC that I can ssh into but can not scp from, authentication fails everytime I try to scp from it. Any clues as to what would cause that? [18:14] but if it takes so long to resolve ip it's not surprising that you haven't caught anything yet [18:14] i think that's just you =p [18:14] I want a refund! [18:14] Necos: Was that for me? [18:14] no usr13, that was for div [18:14] *dive [18:15] ok yea, thought so... [18:15] no he's insulting me as usual [18:15] god if i was sober... [18:15] it's too easy [18:15] think rebuffs i could think of [18:15] or not [18:18] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:18] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: "Leaving..." [18:19] :) [18:19] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:21] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [18:22] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [18:23] vlc is just compiling its little happy self... [18:24] it does that [18:24] this is a very, very clever slackbuild... [18:24] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] woah it's grown a bit since I last looked at it [18:27] straterra: is it owned? [18:27] wtf [18:27] dude [18:27] port 50001 opened up [18:27] hahahah [18:27] conflicker [18:27] nice. [18:27] 50001/tcp filtered unknown [18:27] lmao [18:27] lol [18:27] that's awesome [18:28] so one of the drives died in my LVM, and I can't see to be able to run pvmove (bad blocks) [18:28] I guess I'll re-recreate the volumn. [18:28] jiraia (n=ricardob@189.27.65.62) left irc: Connection timed out [18:28] mth_ (n=mth@pc-56-176-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12352 [18:29] or it could be a trap he setup [18:29] lol [18:30] slow? [18:30] straterra: what the hell up [18:30] wake! [18:31] that's some hell of a sb [18:31] I think I would try harder with mplayer [18:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] alienBOB, I'd like to see one great big tar with all those files inside [18:36] dive: I see no reason to want to do that [18:37] save's clicking and tabbing? [18:37] download once and untar [18:37] Clicking??? Tabbing??? [18:38] well tabbing in my case [18:38] but I guess gui users would be clicking [18:38] lftp -c "open www.slackware.com/~alien/slackware/slackbuilds/ ; mirror vlc ." [18:39] you see if you don't know this stuff... [18:39] lftp ftw :D [18:40] If you don't know this stuff, then installpkg the freaking package I also provide [18:40] you didnt know a computer can do repetitive things quickly? [18:40] dive: besides it tells you on: "http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/" [18:40] :) [18:41] . [18:41] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [18:41] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.80) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [18:41] how many fails is that today? [18:42] i know we could pwn straterra's windows XP SP2 system if those ports weren't being filtered [18:43] StevenR_ (n=foo@user-514ffcbe.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:43] nullboy: email pwn him ? [18:44] snL20: he put a windows XP SP2 system on the raw internet [18:44] i think something got it already though [18:44] email own hin anyway [18:47] tz3 (n=tzz33@adsl-240-112-126.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] hi all [18:47] got a quick question [18:48] got a quick answer [18:48] But you only get one. And that one above counts. [18:48] Sorry [18:48] perl vs python [18:48] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Success [18:48] perl [18:48] python [18:48] y? [18:48] heh [18:48] tz3: stfu [18:48] yeah that's a really quick question... [18:48] troll bait [18:48] to contradict dive [18:48] :-) [18:48] perl... but only because I never bothered to learn python [18:49] bash? [18:49] Python is a great way to introduce people to programming concepts [18:49] well I want to learn it... mainly because of Blender though [18:49] berkough: It's super duper easy. check out the dive into python book. [18:49] blender? [18:49] enki (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:49] the graphics thing? [18:49] tz3 it's a 3D modeling program [18:50] yeah [18:50] alruna_ (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] thought so [18:50] but you can program games using python, it's all integrated, pretty sweet [18:50] Nick change: sitwon_ -> sitwon [18:50] you should start off in asm and work up [18:50] thats y i wannna learn it [18:50] asm!?!?\ [18:50] stillbor1 (n=stillbor@YKMCXLIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [18:50] heh [18:50] thats hard as crap to a newbie [18:51] not as hard as BF [18:51] or poking stuff into registers with basic [18:51] lol, I've never been much of a programmer... php, perl, that's like it... even then I have my nose burried in my reference when I am programming [18:51] references* even [18:52] straterra's been very quiet - he's still trying to figure it out [18:52] well that really high port opened up all of a sudden [18:52] but it wasn't me [18:53] i tried to conflicker him too [18:53] dive: y asm? [18:53] dive: I agree. [18:53] dive: btw. Start out in asm and work upwards. [18:54] well if you really want to learn the bones.. [18:54] tz3: So that you understand how a computer works, rather than just "programming is function + parameter = return" [18:54] some evil genius hax0rd straterra [18:54] sorry 'bout that. He'll be back shortly. [18:54] ;) [18:54] i was told to start small then work up like python > c > asm [18:55] tz3: dont listen to them you dont need to learn asm just learn visual basic and be happy [18:55] tz3: That works if you don't care how the machine works and just want to learn. python is the best place (imho) for absolute beginners. [18:56] snL20: I wonder if there's an award for 'worst advice ever' ? [18:56] ;) [18:56] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [18:56] eviljames: god I hope so :] [18:56] another one? [18:56] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:56] VB sucks cracker salt! [18:56] he IS running gentoo [18:56] ahh, gentoo. [18:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] ports for people who don't have a clue what ports is... [18:56] haha, yeah VB does... I had to learn VBA for work though... had me programming access and MSsql server programs [18:56] |ahmina| (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:57] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] http://pastebin.ca/1387537 This is what nessus returns when scanning.. [18:57] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [18:57] u can do mysql with VBA? [18:58] yeah ports is what you fall back on in freebsd when their damd php package won't install - gg [18:58] I liked it until then [18:58] tz3: mssql not mysql [18:58] I thought freebsd only did ports [18:59] erm no there's pkg_add too [18:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] snL20: dude, chill [18:59] I hate chilli [18:59] snL20: oh, sorry, ur right [18:59] whats mssql? [19:00] tz3: microsoft sql [19:00] MY-microsoft [19:00] thats wut it said on wiki [19:01] thats MySql was Microsoft SQL [19:01] that MySql was Microsoft SQL [19:01] tz3: ok troll /ignore time [19:02] hahah wtf. [19:02] snL20: ... no respect for the noob [19:02] Lab_Rat: What's that scan all about now? [19:03] tz3 (n=tzz33@adsl-240-112-126.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:05] stillborn (n=stillbor@MKCCXIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:06] tz3 (n=tzz33@adsl-240-112-126.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] tz3 (n=tzz33@adsl-240-112-126.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:07] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] vi is one nasty little bastard [19:07] leave vi alone you beast [19:07] i loled [19:07] what's it ever done to you? [19:08] it was just making my cursor dance around like pong [19:08] and it wouldn't let me kill it for like 5min [19:08] blame elvis [19:08] just a green cursors bouncing off the sides of my terminal [19:09] never saw anything like that [19:09] so it was the matrix [19:09] whoa [19:09] vi /dev/matrix [19:09] 1984 again [19:09] I just got the same thing!!! [19:14] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Killed by Md (broken bot, please contact staff) [19:14] should have took the blue pill [19:15] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] eviljames, that was nessus looking at straterra's win box [19:16] ah [19:17] break in! [19:17] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] hello, i would like to build Inkscape using slackbuilds scripts. besides building cairomm before gtkmm, do i have to follow a build order for boost, libsigc++, glibmm, and gc ? [19:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:20] blkdg: Likely the build order would be posted on slackbuilds.org if it is required. [19:20] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] it's not eviljames , just that string like i posted here. [19:20] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [19:20] trial and error I think [19:20] nothing like the build order for fuzion-icon for instance. [19:23] i take it there's no order then. [19:23] thank you [19:25] only the maker of those slackbuilds will know [19:28] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] slackbuilds :P in the old days you had to get the srcs and follow the deps :] [19:28] hooray i have internet again [19:28] dang [19:28] nix_chix0r: did u mak babby? [19:28] she spawned [19:29] our internet has been out off and on for 3weeks with 3 fried modems he replaced it on monday and had to replace it again today along with the cable to the dish apparently there was too much power going to the modem from the dish [19:30] dish ? [19:30] satellite internet [19:30] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-236-255-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] oh I got that... I just couldn't figure out why you'd want such a beast.. ;) [19:31] Must be in the boonies? [19:31] so because we pay 70bucks for a 1mb connection we're making them credit us for next month. yep i live in the woods [19:31] ahh, gotcha. [19:31] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] Action: dive would love to have too much powers [19:31] and i'm gettin hitched tomorrow add that to my already full plate:P [19:32] congrats [19:32] ++ to what dive said [19:32] thanks, it'll be a quick one in and out of the court house and off to the hotel for a weekend with out a baby<3 [19:33] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138232176.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:33] hpw you ever heard that church bell moan? [19:33] pwning your baby off allready? ;) [19:34] how you ever heard that coffin sound? [19:34] haha making his mom take him for the weekend [19:34] sorry blues on radio and im in karaoke mode [19:34] radisson has those king sized sleep number beds yo [19:34] can you compile multiple applications at once? or do you wait for each one to finish before you make the next one? [19:34] when i was a teenager my older sister was mean, "here watch the kid for a few gotta run to the store" and she does not come backfor hours [19:34] blkdg: install as you build them [19:35] blkdg, your cpu would probably like you to do one at a time [19:35] well not to mention build time deps [19:36] thanks. [19:36] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep :3" [19:37] yeah! an error! [19:37] nix_chix0r: got any brothers & sisters? [19:38] No package 'glibmm-2.4' found is the error i got when i tried building gtkmm. any ideas? [19:38] install glibmm? [19:38] yes, install glibmm [19:38] install glibmm [19:38] srsly, wtf [19:38] here there be an echo... [19:38] Pig_Pen, i have loads of brothers and a half sister [19:38] ... [19:39] but i like my friends too much to set them up with em all:) [19:39] i'll be the only one to reproduce [19:39] blkdg: this is from the README (cleaverly named, no?): This package requires cairomm, which is also available from the [19:39] SlackBuilds.org project. [19:39] Inkscape requires boost, libsigc++, glibmm, gtkmm (which requires cairomm), and gc, all of which are available at SlackBuilds.org. and i installed ciromm first then i tried to build gtkmm looks like trial and error.... [19:40] thanks The-spiki [19:40] no; cairomm requires glibmm [19:40] umm thrice` [19:40] so, logically, glibmm, then cairomm, then gtkmm [19:40] no [19:40] no [19:40] no? [19:40] cairomm, gtkmm, glibmm [19:40] definitely not [19:40] slackbuilds says gtkm req cairomm [19:40] or whatever [19:41] gtkmm REQUIRES cairomm [19:41] cairomm REQUIRES glibmm [19:41] ahh [19:41] so cairomm comes first [19:41] i'm learning again! [19:41] are you being serious? [19:42] I didnt see cairomm REQUIRES glibmm in that [19:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/cairomm/ [19:42] I want to punch you through IRC, btw [19:42] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "Leaving." [19:43] he [19:43] well if I read up.. [19:43] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] right [19:44] sorry about the confusion i was reading http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/graphics/inkscape/ which says gtkmm req cairomm. [19:44] sorry! [19:45] it does [19:45] it does, though, but cairomm needs glibmm [19:45] readme could be a bit better thought out.. [19:45] libsigc++, glibmm, cairomm, and gtkmm is a good order [19:45] with boost first [19:46] if cairomm needs glibmm, how on earth was i able to build cairomm and install it before i build anything else? [19:47] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] seriously, all i did was run the slackbuilds script and then installpkg for cairomm, it's when i moved to building gtkmm when it fell apart. [19:48] ? [19:48] where did you get the cairomm package? [19:48] from slackbuilds link [19:48] djgera (n=djgera@host239.190-137-17.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:48] like everything else needed for inkscape [19:48] m is a good order [19:49] oops [19:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.209.87) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] Action: dive is going to start painting hi sfront door [19:53] djgera (n=djgera@host239.190-137-17.telecom.net.ar) left ##slackware. [19:54] i'm taking your advise and building in that order [19:56] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-184-211.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. 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[20:04] I had built and am using a 2.6.29.1-rt kernel. When I start the pc, I don't have any scrolling text, instead just a black screen until the login screen loads. I have framebuffer support built-in. What could be causing this? [20:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:08] firebird619: not sure what's causing it, but try adding 'vga=sane' in the lilo.conf entry for that kernel [20:09] Ok, I can try that, I have vga=318 in there now. [20:09] by "login screen" you mean X-based login, not console? [20:09] yes [20:09] if you spend all your time in X, the framebuffer isn't too useful anyway [20:10] (unless you have an unsupported vid card that only works in X with the framebuffer, of course) [20:10] Urchlay: even using, for example, telinit 1 to get to console, I just get a black, blank screen. [20:10] does the monitor go to sleep? [20:10] Urchlay: previous kernels have worked fine, and I get the scrolling text, etc. [20:10] Urchlay: No, it doesn't go to sleep. I thought of that also and pressed a key, moved mouse, etc. [20:11] I meant, does the monitor stay on and display a black raster, or does the tube (or lcd) shut down due to something like an invalid sync rate? [20:11] No, I don't believe it shuts down. It just displays a black screen. It's an LCD connected via DVI. [20:12] the LCD backlight stays on? [20:12] yeah. [20:12] hm. [20:13] and your old kernel worked fine with the same vga=318 param... hm [20:13] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:13] When I first built this kernel, I had this issue, I then found out that I had made framebuffer support a module, so I built the kernel again making sure I built in framebuffer support, it worked once showing scrolling text, and now it doesn't anymore. [20:13] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [20:13] I dunno, but 'vga=sane' ought to at least give you a usable (low-res) console [20:14] Urchlay: The stock slackware kernel 2.6.27.7 hugesmp worked fine, then the 2.6.29 kernel worked fine, and now 2.6.29.1-rt doesn't. [20:14] Hmm. Now that I think about it, I think it's just my rt kernels that have this issue. I'll have to boot my 2.6.29 non-rt kernel and see if it works there. [20:15] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:15] grazymax (n=grazymax@host164-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:16] scubacuda (n=rog@71-6-2-163.static-ip.telepacific.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] I will go and try booting a non-rt kernel and see if it shows the text and then I'll try vga=sane. on the rt kernels. Thanks Urchlay. [20:17] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:18] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [20:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Urchlay: All my kernels, except the slackware 2.6.27.7 kernel, have blank, black screens, even with vga=sane. [20:27] me_ (n=me_@84.13.179.145) joined ##slackware. [20:27] heres a hilarious story [20:27] my nic died so i replaced it. still not working [20:28] turns out i replaced the wrong pci card [20:28] what a goom [20:28] firebird619: hm. Eh, you told it the wrong framebuffer driver? [20:29] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:30] I don't think I did. How can I check? [20:30] Anything's possible though. :) This kernel is only the 4th kernel I've ever built. [20:31] 'make menuconfig' and look for it? [20:31] Ok [20:32] also you can compare the stock kernel's config (should be /boot/config-generic-2.6.whateveritis [20:32] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:32] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Ok, Thank you. [20:35] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [20:35] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left ##slackware. [20:36] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [20:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@host164-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] grazymax (n=grazymax@host24-167-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[20:53] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Action: eviljames <3 van [20:56] heh [20:58] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [20:59] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) joined ##slackware. [21:00] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-172-010.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:01] well front door painted [21:01] and ive opened this beer so i might as well drink it [21:01] brucelee (n=fffz@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] why is ubuntu so much more popular than slackware? [21:01] even though slackware has been around for so long [21:01] and necos says fail i will come over there and shoot out his kneecaps [21:02] grazymax (n=grazymax@host229-27-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:02] my grandfather is older than me but he isn't popular [21:03] brucelee, I said to a friend whos a web dev - about time you tried linux and he says 'yeah, whats the latest one? ubuntu?' its a name thats got around [21:03] but why has ubuntu gottne so popular though [21:03] plus it's easy going from windows to ubuntu [21:03] is it better than slackware? [21:03] publicity [21:03] no blasphemy here please [21:03] you mean advertisements? [21:04] just cos it's claimed to be easy [21:04] more word of mouth [21:04] and hype [21:04] oh i see [21:04] they say its easier to swtich between ubuntu and windows [21:04] whats different ins lackware that makes it harder? [21:04] And they're right. [21:04] brucelee: The difference is that with Slackware you have to know the computer. Ubuntu hides it all from you. [21:04] slackware you have to configure more and know more about whats going on [21:04] hey me_ just because grampa is not as popular as you does not mean its ok to get in a time machine and go in to the past and kill him [21:04] slackware requires some effort [21:05] Action: nooper does the nasty in the pasty [21:05] i didnt say he wasnt as popular as me, i said he wasnt popular :p [21:05] requiring effort is most cases is worse than not having to require effort to accomplish the same thing right? [21:05] Pig_Pen, yeah but you could have a beer and toruture him right? [21:05] yeah [21:05] and he will say 'why me' [21:05] requiring effort isnt a bad thing brucelee [21:06] if you need to do more work to accomplish the same thing that means less productivity [21:06] so thats worse right? [21:06] well that's the thing - linux has had the rep of being hard to configure etc [21:06] no [21:06] you can set things up how you want instead of just saying "oh ok, that's how i have to do this" [21:06] then buntu came along and made it easy [21:06] anywho, i'm goin home :) [21:07] good luck with the ubuntu spokesperson [21:07] me_: i been using Linux for almost 9 years now, i seen many distros get to be #1 at distrowatch only to eventually slide in to obsolesence from lack of interest [21:07] brucelee: The only reason Ubuntu has gotten so popular is because of places like Dell and HP that sell netbooks and other pre-fab PCs with Ubuntu installed. Corporate sponsorship takes one a long way [21:07] brucelee, I wouldn't say anyt buntu is a production box [21:07] brucelee: You ever try to use Ubuntu in a server environment? its a nightmare. [21:07] brucelee: Pre-configured mess when it comes to say.. Postfix or Apache [21:07] if you are a business and you want lamp - what do you choose? [21:08] The obvious choice is redhat [21:08] Dominian, i remember when i first heard of dell selling ubuntu, it was already quite the popular distro [21:08] redhat cost money doesn tit? [21:08] we use Slackware/FreeBSD/CentOS depending on our needs [21:08] me_: It wasn't as popular as people make it out to be [21:08] me_: It was just another Debian-based install [21:08] brucelee, cos the company wants to know they can get supprt after they sack the admin [21:08] brucelee: Redhat does.. CentOS doesn't [21:09] CentOS is an opensourced version of Redhat Enterprise Linux [21:09] th9ought that was what fedora was [21:09] but who ever heard of that? redhat is famous [21:09] it is [21:09] brucelee: Fedora is the "bleeding" edge.. similar to what slackware-curernt is [21:10] ? [21:10] whats bleeding edge? [21:10] u mean the newest of the new? [21:10] latest and greatest [21:10] aye [21:10] yes [21:10] Fedora is a testing ground for Redhat [21:10] CentOS *IS* redhat enterprise linux rebuilt/rebranded [21:10] very unstable but very new [21:10] slackware-current is the fedora of slackware? [21:10] no [21:10] Yes and no.. slackware-current is the "bleeding edge" of Slackware [21:10] slackware current is the latest and greatest lsackware release [21:11] and what will eventually be the next release [21:11] oh i see [21:11] slackwar-current is the next release [21:11] so basically [21:11] u mean its a beta [21:11] But comparing Ubuntu to Slackware is comparing apples and oranges. [21:11] but they are both linux [21:11] Ubuntu has its plusses and minuses... not many pluses in my opinion.. but it has them [21:11] so if you have a spare box - test it, try it out, report problems etc [21:12] i can setup a vm [21:12] and try it out [21:12] Dominian, I must try out cent - thx for reminding me [21:12] But if you want to learn Linux.. Slackware is a good choice [21:12] If you want to be lazy.. use ubuntu [21:12] dive: no problem [21:12] the thing about slackware is [21:13] i know theres a lot of configuring that has to be done [21:13] to get things to work properly [21:13] brucelee: I've seen far too many so-called "Linux Admins" that all they do was use Ubuntu.. they get somewhere that doesn't use it nor plan to use it and they are lost puppies [21:13] brucelee: Like what? [21:13] and im kinda busy so i cant spend too much time googling and stuff [21:13] im not sure [21:13] just what i heard [21:13] brucelee: Name one thing that needs to be configured for it to "work properly" [21:13] brucelee: yeah.. and let me guess.. the people you heard this from use Ubuntu? [21:13] no like it doesnt have apt-get [21:13] so u cant click your way to install things [21:14] or can u??? [21:14] nope [21:14] slackpkg [21:14] slapt-get [21:14] that's a good way to stay up-to-date with the official repositories [21:14] me_: Please don't recommend unofficial third party tools k.. thanks [21:14] slackpkg is in the official release.. and as such is supported and recommended [21:14] i wasnt recommending it, just comparing [21:14] slapt-get is a POS [21:14] and can/will hose your system if you do something incorrectly [21:15] hmmm [21:15] unless they've fixed something with it since the last time I tested it. [21:15] aBiNg (n=chatzill@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [21:15] nice to know it's out there then :/ [21:15] slackpkg is smart enough to know "hey.. pkgtools/glibc-solibs updated.. I need to do those first" [21:15] last I checked.. slapt-get just "updates" whatever it sees [21:16] so do most people who use linux use a gui? [21:16] or do most linux users just use the command line [21:16] brucelee: Depends on what you're using it for [21:16] regular use [21:16] if you are running a server of some sort - why have a gui? [21:16] what 90% of the people use it for [21:16] My laptop runs openSUSE (KDE4), home machine uses Slamd64 (unofficial port of Slackware to 64bit using KDE4), and my server runs Slackware.. no GUI.. all command line [21:16] we aren't 90% of people tbh, but i use a gui most of the time [21:17] so what? slackware has loads of choices of guis [21:17] more than I've seen in any other dsitro [21:17] what kind of GUI does ubuntu use? [21:17] is that KDE4? [21:17] Gnome [21:17] slackware gives you lots of choices in many relms [21:17] You have to get Kubuntu to get KDE iirc [21:17] flux, blackbox, kde, twm etal [21:17] windowmaker [21:17] dominian, you cant get gnome for slackware? [21:17] xfce4 [21:18] brucelee: You can, but they are unofficial projects [21:18] xfce4 is cool! [21:18] ubuntu is gnome and there are builds of gnome for slackware [21:18] brucelee: there's gsb and Dropline Gnome [21:18] brucelee: If you like Gnome.. xfce is probably what you would want to try [21:18] I have been using fluxbox for many years and have been to lazy to try anything else [21:18] are you considering which distro to use then brucelee or are you already a ubuntu user? [21:18] brucelee: Its not Gnome, but its gtk-based desktop environment.. like Gnome. [21:18] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) joined ##slackware. [21:19] oh ok i see [21:19] because i guess im somewhat familiar with the gnome interface [21:19] its pretty simple [21:19] twolf: hehe I used fluxbox on my old dell inspiron 7500.. only desktop it would run without choking [21:19] KDE4 is simple [21:19] in ubuntu, i rarely ever go into command line [21:19] xfce is simple.. fluxbox is simple [21:19] brucelee: hehe.. be ready for a world of learning then :) [21:19] learning is good but the shitty thing is hours of googling and not finding answers :( [21:19] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [21:19] brucelee: then use a VM [21:19] brucelee, kde is simple in one sense, but in=t allows more control over the system if you want to get complex [21:19] install Slackware in a VM.. come to this channel.. we can give you a hand. [21:20] ok ill try that [21:20] i already have ubuntu in a vm [21:20] brucelee, read the links in /topic [21:20] vms are cool [21:20] slackbook slackwiki [21:20] brucelee: like I said.. slackware works pretty well out of the box without any configuration.. most of us in here have been using Slackware for a LONG time so we tweak things to our preferences that we've gotten a taste for over the years [21:21] Like.. my server runs grsec.. not a common thing in slackware or any other distro.. hehe [21:21] i know most of it is simply taste [21:21] yep. [21:21] most of the reason why people prefer one distro over the other is simply taste [21:21] but what are concrete advantages slackware has over ubuntu [21:22] brucelee: Just an FYI, if someone is telling you Slackware is too hard, 9 tiems out of 10 they've never used Slackware and are basing their opinion from FUD [21:22] brucelee, no it's how much control you want too [21:22] lucasagomes (n=lucasgom@189-68-133-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:22] when you say control, its kind of a loose term for me... because with ubuntu i dont feel like i dont have control [21:22] what exactly is control [21:22] brucelee: well, Slackware isn't the hand-holding type of distro that Ubuntu is... if you use Slackware.. you will need to learn more about your system in certain aspects [21:22] aBiNg (n=chatzill@218.94.136.171) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] brucelee, what do you want to use your system for? [21:23] brucelee: Mainly, the biggest irk that most of us have with Ubuntu is the bastardized why it uses sudo [21:23] i know exactly what kind of hardware i have, like brand/model # etc [21:23] indeed [21:23] grazymax (n=grazymax@host229-27-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:23] brucelee, what do you want to use your system for? [21:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.183) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:23] i just want to learn more about linux so in teh future i can get a job doing IT [21:23] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) joined ##slackware. [21:23] like a system admin [21:24] keeping servers up and stuff [21:24] heh [21:24] but aside from that, what do i use it for [21:24] then learn slackware [21:24] mainly web browsing [21:24] talking on irc [21:24] i program because im a CS major [21:24] play video games [21:24] slackware can help you on that quest very nicely [21:24] but not too much anymore [21:24] ill check it out [21:25] if you really want to know the hows and whats of linux - learn slack [21:25] right now i have vmware on a windows vista system [21:25] Or if you'r ereally daring... [21:25] do an LFS install hehe [21:25] I am working with my nephew on a LFS, very fun [21:26] the problems i have most with using a new OS like any distro of linux [21:26] is my dependance on other apps like MS word [21:26] visual studio [21:26] I have the same thing [21:26] Openoffice ftw [21:26] you can find equivalents [21:26] itunes [21:26] or you can use a windows vm [21:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [21:26] Action: Dominian runs Windows XP in a VM if he needs windows.. which is very rare [21:27] I'm doing a course on Open Uni - their recommended document formats are like rtf or doc [21:27] what about as far as gaming is concerned [21:27] i have an nvidia 8800 gts [21:27] brucelee, I was playing in UT clan until a couple of months ago [21:27] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:27] have teamspeak UT [21:27] what else do you need ? :) [21:27] :p [21:28] grazymax (n=grazymax@host217-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:28] does graphic performance in slackware go down [21:28] but as far as im aware ( i dont play games) gaming in linux is far from ideal [21:28] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] no [21:28] brucelee: uhh no.. its just like any other distro [21:28] many games are made for windows [21:28] I will probably take up gaming when I retire [21:28] brucelee: Especially if you have an Nvidia card.. just get the binary installer from Nvidia's site and you're set [21:28] yep [21:29] thats the reason why id ont have a linux as my primary os [21:29] and why i have linux as my VMs [21:29] because i want to be able to run video games [21:29] I was a serious gamer - in like 3 or 4 clans, playing matches for euro assault cup [21:29] all in linux [21:29] so [21:29] through WINE? [21:29] no [21:29] native UT installer [21:29] brucelee: what games are you playing? [21:29] oh but for other games like world of warcraft [21:29] warcraft 3 [21:30] wc3 runs beautifully. [21:30] im not sure they have linux versions [21:30] under wine [21:30] yeah I think wow needs wine [21:30] put that loki went bust [21:30] Action: me_ needs wine [21:30] they were doing a lot of linux installers [21:30] s/put/pity [21:30] Action: twolf gets a beer [21:32] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) left irc: "‚»" [21:32] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-172-010.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [21:33] Action: dive says belchhhhh! [21:34] do anyway yeah linux aint great for games but if you like the right game sit aint bad [21:34] If I was really into gaming I would have dedicated gaming box with windows on it [21:34] I know people have got wow working but I've not tried it [21:35] or dual boot [21:35] yep [21:35] just buy a console, solves that problem [21:35] yeah try playing seriously on a console [21:35] like clans? [21:35] we got wii, we have fun with that, mariokart [21:36] mariokart wii is the best [21:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.77) left irc: "Leaving" [21:36] you cant do like clan matches like ogl back in the day [21:36] but there are a lot of online players these days [21:36] last time I saw UT on a console networking was borked [21:37] you need those exclusive console games, like gears [21:37] or metal gear [21:37] come now, i played call of duty on the playstation and on the pc. I sold my playstation soon after [21:37] call of duty 4 online was good on the console [21:38] what was the max number of players for online? [21:38] I still reminisce about rsident evil 1 on a psx lol [21:38] like 8? [21:38] 32 [21:38] on cod4 [21:38] oh ok [21:38] i'll let you off :p [21:38] :) [21:38] but gears of war is a max of 5v5 [21:38] but it makes sense in that game [21:38] man I'm up for a game now [21:39] CoD dive? [21:39] think I'll just shoot my lcd out and kill you all [21:39] nah UT [21:39] on an assault server [21:39] ut3? [21:39] ut99 [21:39] ah [21:39] damn you going back like 20 years [21:39] lol [21:39] I deleted 2k4 today ;p [21:39] lately a lot of people have snapped, a small number of people have killed a large number of people [21:40] twolf: eh? [21:40] still waiting for ut3 or wahtever it is [21:40] dive: same. [21:40] dont bother it sucked [21:40] should be soon.... [21:40] the engine is sweet [21:40] ut99 is still the best [21:40] I just want to play the Lego level!!!! [21:40] yeah enginje is fine but when gameplay/movement suffers... [21:41] yeah lol lego [21:41] Lego FTW! [21:41] i found a nice server that just does sniper+redeemer [21:41] thats really fuuny sometimse [21:42] and also damn annoying [21:42] there you are testing your l337 sniper skills out and some ^%$ just deemers you from nowhere [21:43] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.138.114) left irc: "Ronald Reagan described economists as individuals who see something work in practice and wonder if it might work in theory." [21:43] er... yeah... so where were we? oh yeah slackware [21:44] Action: dive better go off grab a beer and on the paint on the front door [21:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.18.80) joined ##slackware. [21:47] not a good idea to gloss front door after a few beers [21:47] hehe [21:47] grazymax (n=grazymax@host217-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:47] gonna look good in the morning [21:48] i don think [21:49] wtf is a beer? [21:49] wtf? [21:49] it means what the f*** [21:49] I meant wtf is someone asking a question like that for\ [21:49] I would die without beer [21:49] im joking [21:50] Action: agentc0re some how doesn't think so [21:50] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: "[BX] Bender uses BitchX. Bite my shiny metal ass!" [21:50] me_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beer [21:50] :D [21:50] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.77) joined ##slackware. [21:50] its a drug [21:50] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [21:50] hah [21:50] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [21:51] nice [21:52] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:53] Nick change: battlemidget -> boris [21:53] Nick change: boris -> battlemidget [21:53] battlemidget, prepare to fight! fight! [21:53] j/k [21:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:53] haha [21:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:54] I would lose - it's a fail day for me [21:54] left, down, right, high kick [21:55] left, down, miss, look confused, grab beer, spill, oh shit, g/f/ comes in and moans... [21:55] left, back (in the other room) [21:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] up, left, face plant [21:56] yep headdesk agaieeeowb [21:57] haha [21:57] sry agaaaeeeeeown [21:58] How can I say no to alcohol? I'm afraid I won't fit in. [21:58] just try [21:58] tank-man: Ah, take a leak. [21:58] tank-man: Drain the lizard [21:59] extract a urine sample [21:59] im reading a faq on alcohol [21:59] faq off [21:59] :) [21:59] LOL [22:00] dive: extract a urine sample is code for give someone a Pabst. [22:00] hehe [22:00] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [22:01] me_ (n=me_@84.13.179.145) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:01] http://thisisphotobomb.com/2009/04/01/photobomb-that-guy-sexxxy-venison/ [22:03] yeah the deer was asking for it [22:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] deer: taste better dead tan alive [22:06] Heya,folks..How's everyone? raw deer?!? [22:06] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:06] hello MLanden [22:06] yes we have raw deer, but ou must go catch it [22:07] mroning MLanden [22:07] hello,twolf [22:07] evenin', dive [22:08] i should probably stop enforcing my $TIMEOFDAY on people [22:08] Hello MLanden. How are you? [22:08] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] i shoudl learn to type too [22:08] Fine thanks, Firebird619.. and yourself? [22:09] Doing great. I have a kernel issue with a kernel I built, but other than that, all is well. [22:09] mmm pizza [22:09] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Client Quit [22:09] good to hear, firebird619 [22:10] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:10] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:12] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:15] well so far black front door seems like it might have been a wrong choice based on beer [22:17] firebird619, gonna enlighten us with your kernel problem? [22:18] I built the 2.6.29.1-rt kernel and I built it framebuffer support and yet during startup, I don't have any scrolling text and I can't drop from x either, with, for example, telinit 1. I just see a blank, black screen. [22:18] Unlimited Toppings on Any Large Pizza ( max up to 7 Toppings), Can anyone tell me wtf is wrong with that? Why would you say Unlimited if it's not? [22:19] To make you want to buy it [22:19] giuppy (n=giuppy@host12-164-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [22:19] I guess you could hit them up with a small claims case that is false advertisement :P [22:19] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:19] lol [22:20] firebird619, you upgraded kernel - did you do 'make oldconfig'? [22:20] firebird619: try specifying vga=normal at the boot prompt [22:20] see what that does [22:20] Yes, I did. I've also used diff between my kernel config and slackware's kernel config and there's no differences in regards to framebuffer stuff. [22:21] Dominian: I tried that and vga=sane (Urchlay's suggestion) and the same thing happens. [22:21] hrm sounds like something is missing [22:21] Yeah, something sure isn't right. [22:22] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: "..hrmm.... or maybe I will..." [22:24] groo (n=groo@187.46.101.114) joined ##slackware. [22:24] vga=sane didn't change anything? [22:24] small, ot question -- I assume most of you guys touchtype -- do you use the uppermost (numbers) row properly? e.g., type '0' with pinky, instead of.. ring/middle/index finger? [22:24] Urchlay: No, it didn't. [22:25] just curious did you copy over the .config from /boot to the /usr/src/linux dir and do a make oldconfig/menuconfig or did you make a new .config? [22:25] Ficthe: nope.. I just hit with whatever finger [22:25] Ficthe: I sure don't [22:25] nope [22:25] I rarely use the top row [22:25] Dominian, ah, just like me. I'm thinking that I should start to type it properly.. (even though it feels unnatural to hit the 0 key with the pinky) [22:25] bah [22:25] agentc0re: I used the old config. I followed alienBOB's guide. [22:25] using the top row is overrated [22:26] using the numeric keypad is overrated [22:26] particularly since it's upside-down compared to the first keypad I ever learned to use (touch-tone phone) [22:27] my keypad is in the same layout as my phone [22:27] I spell numbers, won too, tree. [22:27] ;) [22:27] One, Two, Tree, Four, Fife... [22:27] Action: dive knocks agentc0re for six [22:27] damn military-phonetics [22:27] sxe ? [22:28] niner [22:28] Whiskey Tango Foxtrot [22:28] hehe [22:28] When i was RO, i never stuck to those phonetics. [22:28] niner niner [22:28] RO? [22:28] radio operator. [22:29] Charlie niner foxtrot whiskey tango .. come in come in [22:29] c9fwt ? [22:29] ellloooo this is germany calling [22:29] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [22:29] how come hams say "CQ" instead of "Charlie Quebec" or whatever it is? [22:29] can you reach? [22:30] i gotcha live and loud germany .. can you get some boys over to the bridge quickly ! [22:30] nope] [22:30] damn you! [22:30] it's only 1938 we haven'tjoined yet [22:30] hehe [22:30] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] at least slackers have a good sense of humor ( most of us anyways ) you crazy peeps :P [22:31] got me laughing ove rhere [22:31] bruicelee (n=fffz@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:32] i'm probably over here too [22:32] brucelee (n=fffz@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [22:33] damn, i need someone to go on a beer run for me. [22:33] don't we all [22:33] I need to train my dogs to do it. [22:33] well i would, but, it will cost ya! [22:34] i got 2 beers left [22:34] but i might pass out before thrn [22:34] or sit up waiting for the [paint to dry [22:34] HAHAH [22:34] heh [22:34] eww, painting sucks. [22:34] my internet is still up wow:| [22:34] i despise painting [22:35] nix_chix0r: Lol, little baby-san didn't puke on it causing it to burst in flames? ;) [22:35] i just got done watching slumdog millionaire good movie [22:35] painintg is ok untl you decide to paint your front door [22:35] dtanner++ [22:35] nah i put that monkey boy to sleep two hours ago [22:35] =0 [22:35] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [22:35] you had a monkey boy> [22:35] ? i'm impressed [22:36] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] how do that? [22:36] he's hairy:| [22:36] omg a hairy monkey boy ! [22:36] well someones got to be [22:36] hmm guess i'll tell Old_fogie later [22:36] was he house trained? [22:37] bruicelee (n=fffz@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:37] I could think a hairy baby would hurt coming out worse than a non hairy baby. [22:37] not really, he shit on me earlier [22:37] Or maybe tickle.. Which could be worse. [22:37] i was changing him and he kept going [22:37] agentc0re: where is your head man! :P [22:37] dtanner: Which one? [22:37] ;) [22:37] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [22:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] agentc0re it didnt hurt he flew out with no effort [22:38] already trying to hack the gibson [22:38] nix_chix0r: Thats good. [22:38] haha [22:38] that's one relief [22:38] he slams his hands on the keyboard [22:38] you l33t haz0rz [22:38] so get him off the bb [22:39] stay away from my gibson [22:39] put him on 56k [22:39] more like put him in the garage with the portable welder [22:39] dtanner, you got a gibson? [22:39] if he craps on me again [22:39] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: [22:39] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:39] dive: i was j/k no i do not :( [22:40] yes .. we like welding babies [22:40] dtanner, i got a giboson copy [22:40] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [22:40] Today at work i felt like i was in an episode of The It Crowd. Someone called telling me they couldn't access the site. He then proceeded to tell me how he's not spelling it wrong, using a / instead of a \ and every time he googles it, nothing comes up. [22:40] but its hsite [22:40] Action: agentc0re facepalmed [22:40] haha [22:40] agentc0re, web site diude> [22:40] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:41] any one else like those orange slice candies i've chowed on 4 already [22:41] I was like, YAAA go ahead and put that in the address bar up at the top. And then he misspelled it.. hahah. Sigh... [22:41] he can't access the site, so what was wrong? [22:41] thr website is down// [22:41] nix_chix0r: The orange chocolate things? [22:42] no the gummy ones [22:42] dive: Heh, i should have just told him that. [22:42] grocery store has them in those big tubs [22:42] Action: kitche forgot banks are closed tomorrow [22:42] i got a pound:| [22:43] I've been too nice to him. It started out telling him buy this for an upgrade. Then i upgraded it. Hard drive died and i told him i wont support it, look up how to install one or pay someone else to do it. He still calls me. "I installed the new hard drive but it says, 'Operating system not found'". Ya, you sure googled how to do it like i told you to eh?. [22:43] yeah gonna be strange tyring ti get beer tmorrow [22:43] Action: nix_chix0r feeds #slackware leftover pork spinach curry [22:44] So today at work when conficker status updated, i posted a bunch of info link that were using http://lmgtfy.com to teach them. But no one fsck'ing clicked on the damn links!!! [22:44] dive, go to walmart and get 3% beef [22:44] er beer [22:44] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] lol, i'm sure you can get 3% beef there too. [22:44] no £% beef is fine ;P [22:44] 3% evenh [22:44] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:45] you have to say, here is the top secret info, don't share it, htttp://lmgtfy.com/xxx [22:45] why in the world would you want a 3% beer? [22:45] tank-man, you said you woudlnt tell [22:45] and i'm the sober one [22:45] nix_chix0r: liar! [22:46] put a little in the baby's milk i bet. [22:46] reverse pyscology and stuff [22:46] if you are sober you can drive to the shopand buy mre beer!! [22:46] oh gross [22:46] i could liqour stores close in 15minutes [22:46] but i have wine in the fridge [22:47] take you like 10 hours to fly here [22:47] but you can drink it and thnk of england [22:47] ;P [22:47] my mom just flew back to suffolk:( [22:47] i told her to take the baby with her and she said no [22:48] worth a try [22:48] so much for letting him have a british accent [22:49] http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-09/1239299298096.jpg ahaha [22:49] there are many accents in britain [22:49] yeah horrible ones like cockney [22:50] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] w t f [22:50] thats a pic that is [22:51] unicorn [22:51] HORN [22:51] ahahahah [22:51] dive, yeah, you want to tap that [22:52] bluejeans (n=bluejean@63.150.132.130) joined ##slackware. [22:52] whiskey... tango... fortrot [22:52] OMFG! [22:52] foxtrot even [22:52] i just want to lie down after seeing that [22:52] it looks like she's taking a dump... out of her forehead! [22:52] are the oss compatibility drivers broken in 2.6.29.1 ? [22:52] that image scared my cats even [22:52] asl #kernel? [22:53] asl, haha [22:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] doh [22:53] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:53] dive, time for sleep i think [22:54] robablu [22:54] you're going to have nightmares after looking at that [22:54] eer [22:54] probably [22:54] wow that was waaay off [22:54] i should [22:55] theblackerbox (n=sammo@94-193-137-211.zone7.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-20-12.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] at the moment i am waiting for paimt to dry, but i dont kno whay [22:56] eh, that looked like it was from a medical textbook or something... what I want to know is, how fast did that thing grow? I mean when it first broke the skin, she didn't go "WTF, better go to the doctor"? [22:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-103-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:56] did she just wake up one morning with a unicorn horn, or did it take years? [22:56] nah she thought 'wooooah can make some cash wih this' [22:56] it ain't like she wouldn't *notice* [22:56] bazzawilleee (n=bazza@ppp121-45-56-144.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] looks a bit like a plant actually [22:57] i didnt notice until you mentiond it [22:57] personally, if something started to sprout out my forhead such as that i'd go to the doctor and say what the hell man [22:57] fucxkit going to bed [22:57] nini dive :P [22:57] nn all [22:57] shup u [22:58] bleah. gonna have nightmares... [22:58] better get drunk before passing out [22:58] lol [22:58] whassup [22:59] whassup,LinuxyErin [22:59] nuthin much u [22:59] nuthin' [23:00] Action: edman007 stabs nix_chix0r [23:01] ow [23:01] np [23:01] i got too much stuff to do :( [23:02] well i'm outa beer so i had to hit up the captain morgan private stock. [23:03] agentc0re, and where is my cut? [23:03] Jean (n=jean@93-36-226-192.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [23:03] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] Wait, what? ;) [23:04] anyone has instaled lprng in slackware? [23:04] agentc0re, not enough beer [23:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:05] i'm still staring at unicorn lady [23:07] hba (n=hba@189.188.200.187) joined ##slackware. [23:07] nix_chix0r, cut off its horn thingy and ship it here [23:07] its mine [23:08] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [23:08] finishing my last beer [23:09] edman007: Thats why you always keep the private stock around in case of days like these. [23:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] agentc0re, not allowed to store alcohol here :( [23:09] mohaa (n=mohaa@ANantes-157-1-105-219.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:09] thats why you must give me some now [23:09] hitest: those are the two cruelest words in the english language......last..beer... [23:09] lol [23:09] what, why? [23:10] agentc0re, dorm... [23:10] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:11] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [23:11] do they inspect? [23:12] you can store booze in me [23:12] i dont mind [23:12] agentc0re, yes :( [23:12] alienBOB, how is GSPCA build script supposed to work for newer kernel ? [23:12] Action: agentc0re trys to pull mind from gutter [23:12] though not allowed to touch, so it can be hidden i suppose [23:13] Action: edman007 joins agentc0re in the gutter [23:13] lol [23:13] edman007: wow, what school is this? in us? [23:13] we're all there, might as well party. [23:13] acidkill, yea...dry campus...most dorms are like that [23:14] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] and they have to inspect your room for safety reasons [23:14] If you tell me BYU i'm going to drive over and slap you silly. [23:14] well the inspection thing...i was in dorm freshman year [23:14] and never had an inspection [23:14] that you know of [23:14] so I'm trying to get the geneic kernel working again... [23:14] :) [23:14] got a new ibm thinkpad [23:14] are your sure your lpt isnt on fire? [23:14] acidkill: agreed:) [23:15] you would get a contact hight if stepped foot on my floor in the dorm freshman year [23:15] LOL [23:15] first time I ever tried using / in lvm itself [23:15] we werent allowed to open windows so..no smoke in the dorms. [23:15] some dumb kid fell and died, but they are there for fire exit so they couldnt be sealed [23:16] acidkill, these dorms are actually owned by the state, technically you can't smoke within 50' of the building, and its actually a state law [23:16] http://rafb.net/p/SaS1cO44.html [23:16] i think they had a rule about smoking too but no one cared. [23:16] where the hell are you edman007? [23:16] I was at USF in tampa [23:16] i need to hang out there more too [23:16] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] 10k new girls a year mmmm [23:17] damn I miss college [23:17] im getting too old to be doing that too so i gotta capitalize [23:17] agentc0re, dorms are owned by SUNY, but my school is new york institute of tech, SUNY is the one that is imposing most of these crap rules [23:17] sucky! [23:17] suny, hah, thats like lib central [23:18] toke on bro lol [23:18] agentc0re, and the campus police are state cops...so you have to abide by the rules here :( [23:18] guess not Stoney Brook? lol [23:18] at my school i just ignore the rent-a-cops, its fun [23:18] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:18] "Hey you.. I'll have to write you up!" "Yeah? Suck my dick" [23:18] acidkill, old westbury is the SUNY where i dorm, but i don't go to school there [23:18] edman007: Ya, until one tazers you. :P [23:18] Hello all! :) [23:19] agentc0re, lol [23:19] hey Old_Fogie [23:19] Old_Fogie: Sup gramps! [23:19] oh lil' this, a lil' that [23:19] sup Young_...something [23:19] yeah, when it comes to state owned universities, cops are usually normal police [23:19] that how usf was, they were actual police [23:19] building compiz 0.8.2 , seems there's a new lib for start up to be faster [23:19] I'm curious why it kernel panics and actualy says cant find /dev/root .. (I set it to /dev/lvm/root) [23:19] don't taz me bro [23:20] Action: NaCl tazes agentc0re [23:20] bhodgins : because you don't have lvm support in your initrd [23:20] Action: acidkill pours NaCl in agentc0re's wounds [23:20] /fail [23:20] bhodgins : and good luck getting that working on slackware [23:20] hey Old_Fogie:) [23:20] :) [23:20] no reason why it shouldnt work [23:21] sounds cool,Old_Fogie..Any other advantages with 0.8.2? [23:21] bhodgins : uhmm, it doesn't work, because it's not magic [23:21] MLanden, mmm, don't know yet, the changelog's aren't very telling (if you're a non-tech guy) [23:21] bhodgins: I have LVM on root and home. [23:21] bhodgins: but not boot. [23:21] MLanden, it's building now... we shall see :) [23:21] well, no. but theres no reason why I shouldnt be able to put lvm in my initrd [23:22] anyone remember some movie where a kid is getting advice about hanging out with a girl and his friend tells him to put on side B of led zeppelin 2? Im thinking I may have dreamed up such a scene [23:22] bhodgins: did you create the initrd? [23:22] yes [23:22] Sound awesome,Old_Fogie [23:22] I used README_LVM.TXT because I wasnt sure if I remembered some things [23:22] MLanden, yea the SBo scripts seem to work as is, no tweaks, that's good [23:22] bhodgins : uhmm, slackware's initrd doesn't support lvm on root. so just because you created it, it doesn't mean it will magically work [23:23] acidkill: Fast Times At Rosemont High [23:23] MLanden, just modified the versions numbers, it all 'seems' to build, heh [23:23] I noticed that for some reason, lvm wasnt added to my modules.. [23:24] MLanden, oh wait, they renamed the sources of the plugins, no longer are they "compiz-fusion-plugins-..." now they're "compiz-plugins-..." as compiz-fusion and compiz have merged, so the scripts, just have to be modified for the name change of the three sets of plugins, but that's just a detail really. [23:24] bazzawil1eee (n=bazza@ppp121-45-136-93.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] thedude32 (i=dudeman@adsl-69-209-112-205.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] will put that on my todo list,Old_Fogie to try later this month [23:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.18.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:26] whoops..sorry,acidkill.....Ridgemont* [23:26] LikeVinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [23:26] bhodgins: i would switch to the huge kernel and try again. [23:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:26] readme_lvm shows how to do it with root in lvm [23:26] hmm [23:26] MLanden: haha!!! thank you!!! [23:27] thats been killing be for days [23:27] i need to see Phoebe Cates again too... [23:27] whatever her name is...it doesnt matter [23:27] kernel won't help, since kernel doesn't have lvm tools. it only has support for device mapper [23:27] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.227) joined ##slackware. [23:28] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] it does mention that the huge kernels are too large to work with an initrd, which is strange because I think I did it before to load sound modules in stuff to make a boot sound. [23:29] And five, now this is the most important, Rat. When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV. [23:29] well, boot music [23:29] MLanden: thanks =D [23:29] Mr Hand...haha [23:29] ahh makes sense, side 1 ends with stairway. [23:29] id have gone with zep 1 or 2 though [23:30] 15min of making out and lemon song comes on...at 14 juice would be running down someones leg lol [23:30] ananke, bhodgins: I bet my root LVM works because before it's a LVM it's a raid1 with mdadm. [23:31] bhodgins, too large? i don't think there is such a thing [23:32] hmm [23:32] bhodgins: lilo says is too large but here it works fine [23:32] heh [23:33] damn, I dunno why I can never remember, is 'root' in lilo boot partition or root? I had some major issues with my servers lately with it [23:33] I've been mostly using grub lately [23:33] agentc0re: root LVM works fine. It only needs an initrd [23:34] np,acidkill [23:34] PiterPunk: Yes, i have root LVM. just sounded like from ananke that it might not so i was thinking why mine would have over his besides a misconfiguration. [23:34] I have a separate boot partition /dev/sda1 for dev matters [23:34] i guess it's possible now, it wasn't in the past [23:34] [on slackware] [23:34] PiterPunk, i got it working without an initrd! [23:35] it was very painful to get that system booting though... [23:35] hehe or http://noobfarm.org/?id=1360 [23:36] Wow [23:36] lilo - Fatal: Linux experimental device 0x04 needs to be defined [23:37] well i was looking through the kernel options, you can build an initrd without modules and then compile it into the kernel, it gives the effect of an initrd, but your bootloader does not need to know about it, and for me it was less work [23:37] bazzawilleee (n=bazza@ppp121-45-56-144.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:37] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] damn I have an essay due tomorrow [23:38] and I theoreticly cant do it till I fix this [23:38] so essentially it's still an initrd, it's just fused with the kernel [23:38] edman007: this is not the "effect" of an initramfs. This is an initramfs, but packed with the kernel [23:38] la la la i can't hear you [23:39] Action: edman007 puts hands over his ears [23:39] time to watch a bit of TV, and try not to fall asleep [23:40] jeez......my beer buzz is fading [23:40] That's unfortunate... [23:40] yes [23:41] You know what the obvious solution is, though. [23:41] ? [23:41] Crack a beer. [23:41] thedude32 (i=dudeman@adsl-69-209-112-205.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left irc: "later" [23:41] oh I c [23:41] yeah.........but.......I'm out [23:41] good luck installing lilo from chroot [23:41] ... [23:44] will try this... [23:44] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:45] if this doesnt work, I have yet one more thing to try [23:45] omgwtfgtfobbq [23:45] I would not install the OS on LVM, honestly. [23:45] I usualy dont [23:45] Y BBQ,nullboy? [23:45] no kernel panic [23:46] if doing LVM.. at least keep /boot off of LVM... [23:46] :D [23:46] /boot is off of lvm [23:46] but yeah.. I would say don't install the OS on LVM.. that can get messy [23:46] I would never put /boot in lvm [23:46] ew [23:46] I find it weird enough I'm using root in lvm, I never have [23:46] However, I'd love to do an ecrypted / and swap setup [23:46] Two penguins! [23:46] specifically on my laptop [23:47] bbl.......slackers:-) nite all:) I'm sleepy [23:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:47] I ws going to throw the penguin logo in gimp and make it like, 4 penguins, so when I boot it puts 8. According to my friend lloyd the horizontal width doesnt really matter [23:49] hey guys -- anyone with keyboard with media keys: beside the volume up/down button, does the mute key work for you? It doesn't for me.. (volume up/down works, mute doesn't) (relevant info: in kxkb, I've my keyboard model set to "HP Pavillion ZT11xx") [23:49] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/geoff/cell/debian-penguin-shot.png [23:49] Ficthe: mute key works for me, Dell D620 [23:50] Ficthe, I use xbindkeys to throw the aumix commands to Slack. So I do get mute to work yes. I dont use KDE so cant speak of that. [23:51] Ficthe, I suggest opening 'xev' then put your mouse in the window, and hit your mute button, see what key code it's using and verify it's sending the XF86AudioMute command. [23:51] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [23:51] state 0x0, keycode 160 (keysym 0x1008ff12, XF86AudioMute), same_screen YES [23:51] Ficthe, if it's not, you'll need to make an xmodmap file for it in your ~ [23:52] testing with the generic kernel and no kernel panics [23:52] oh - I should have mentioned, I get the OCD displaying that it's muted, but it doesn't take effect -- volume up/down displays the OCD and takes effect immediately [23:52] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [23:52] s/OCD/OSD I think [23:52] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:53] Ficthe, verify that kmix isn't messing you up, it has shortcut commands (as does kde's control center too under keyboard I think...again one of many reasons I dont use kde..too many options heh) [23:54] http://fatpenguinblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/snow%20tux%20gamer.jpg Tux looks sad, but he has a beer, joystick and keyboard. [23:54] Ficthe, the OCD pop will come up if you keep hitting the MUTE key (or any other) over AND over. [23:54] :) [23:55] Old_Fogie, oh -- setting the Kmix icon in the system tray to "mute" doesn't work.. yep, Kmix is the culprit I guess [23:56] http://www.edu.lahti.fi/~aaspinen/kuvat/tux.jpg [23:56] actualy, it seems that setting up root in lvm is easy. Its very unlikely however that I will need to resize root. [23:56] /* [23:56] Ficthe: is this on a system upgraded from 12.2 to -current by any chance? [23:56] nullboy, no, a default 12.1 [23:56] k [23:56] agentc0re, hahah [23:57] oh! I should backup my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf :D [23:57] might be a good idea huh? [23:57] yea I back mine up on pastebin for 30 days so if I ever need it I can grab it :) [23:57] ^^---joking obviously [23:58] lol [23:58] was gonna say.. gfu! [23:58] hahah [23:59] next step.. but 11 terminals in /etc/inittab.. [23:59] Old_Fogie, correct me if I'm being stupidly wrong, but there's only the WPA key -- there's not much harm anyone can do to you - unless they live geographically close to you? [23:59] http://blaugh.com/cartoons/070417_it_feels_different.gif [23:59] LOL [23:59] wget -c -t5 http://kitchen.home.org/coffee-cup-2.0-noarch-1.tgz [23:59] Why i would need 11 tty's, I dunno, but when I use 6 I always run out [00:00] --- Fri Apr 10 2009