[00:00] ST:OS now [00:00] episode: BellaOxmix and the Chicago mob [00:04] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] _A Piece of the Action_; one of my favorites [00:04] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:04] Where else does lilo store its info besides /etc/lilo.conf? [00:05] in /boot [00:05] see its BIG README for info [00:05] usr/doc [00:07] Quiznos: I'm just trying to change its resolution (it's out of range with the monitor). [00:07] Thanks :) [00:07] lf4: changing it in lilo.conf didn't work? [00:08] fire|bird: No which was weird unless there is something else that is wrong. [00:08] lf4: tried vga=ask? [00:09] fire|bird: haven't tried that I should :) thanks. also I change the lable in lilo and it still is prompting me for "Linux" :/ [00:09] kk [00:10] lf4: and you ran lilo as root after the changes? [00:10] vga=n; see kernel/Doc*/*/fb* for fb values [00:11] fire|bird: ran it as root? i thought it was just a bootloader. If you mean edited it as root then yes. [00:11] lf4: nope, after you edit lilo.conf, you have to run lilo as root to have the changes take affect. [00:12] fire|bird: Haha blah I did not know that. (this is why I use grub simple edit the menu.lst and thats it. Alright will do. [00:12] haha [00:12] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [00:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-55-82-255-181-97.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:14] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] humm 2 warning were issued. :P [00:16] it'll still work, one was about lba32 right? [00:16] yeah [00:17] what was the other one? [00:17] anyone know if its possible to directly connect two computers via ethernet and use ssh? no router or middle man involved [00:17] lol i didn't notice [00:17] stealth-: yes it is [00:17] steath yes [00:18] stealth-: crossover cable [00:18] hey mancha, how are you? [00:18] thanks [00:18] hey firebird [00:18] put them both on the same subnet, crossover cable (null modem) and you're set [00:19] anybody know of hand what that one website is to get older versions of programs? [00:19] s/of/off/ [00:19] vintage*something* [00:20] missyjane (n=jane@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [00:20] hi [00:21] hi [00:21] how are you Quiznos? [00:21] ok; fo0ding and st:os is on. [00:21] mancha: There's also oldversion.com but yeah, the one I'm thinking of is vintage*something* too. thanks. :) [00:23] mancha a null modem cab is not eth; mention the twist in two lines required [00:23] he also needs sw [00:24] Quiznos: still raining there? [00:24] nop [00:24] \o/ [00:24] very nice and comfortable air temp; moderate hum too [00:24] my wins are open and fan at one [00:24] oh man, it was so friggen humid here today it was pathetic. [00:25] nods [00:25] where you? [00:25] Minnesota [00:25] k [00:25] hm.. anyone know of a way to capture streaming audio.. say from youtube? (friend is asking me to capture the WoW songs from Nymh so she can put them on CD) [00:25] right click [00:25] or adjust mimetype actions [00:25] quasar: There's some free apps out there (for linux) to do that, can't think of them atm though. There's also some Web sites that will do it too. [00:26] Otherwise, download the video and run it through mplayer [00:26] quasar: if you aren't getting anything out of it.. tell her to google it [00:26] zed_DX (n=kvirc@187.146.94.192) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [00:28] quasar mplayer can read network stream itself too; via its own url format [00:29] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-38-55.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] quasar: theres plenty of sites/programs for downloading youtube stuff as .flv [00:29] from there its trivial to split the audio out [00:29] quasar or, youtube2.pl js script. for elinks; maybe can be ported to another bowser [00:30] clive works well too, downloads to mp4 [00:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [00:35] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:38] woah.. I should read in here more often after asking a quesiton.. thanks for the info everyone I had already found clive lol [00:38] yw [00:38] quasar: only if you cant find the answer yourself. [00:38] dont learn much that way [00:38] hm.. [00:39] yay i got my friend into warhammer 40k and hes coming voer to play [00:39] I found other answers, just not answers that I was happy with [00:39] Action: missyjane stabs spook [00:40] missyjane: awww? [00:40] you better play sisters of battle or i will stab you [00:40] lol [00:40] i play space marines, he plays tau [00:40] and ne'er the twain shall meet [00:40] the only time i played against sisters of battle, i mopped the floor with them. end of turn 4 they had a rhino left. nothing else [00:41] >:( [00:41] Action: missyjane stabs spook [00:41] i hope you die [00:41] the emperor protects [00:41] the emperor protects the sisters too [00:42] not from what i've seen [00:43] thats cause you suck [00:43] you stupid hater [00:43] Action: missyjane prays spook dies [00:43] i hardly sucked. i mopped the floor. [00:43] but in all fairness, he was new to sisters, and had to fill in half of his army with space marines [00:44] i still hate you [00:44] i know you dont. [00:45] yes i do >:( [00:45] what's with all the blood-lust? [00:46] someone cant handle the fact that i'm a fairly good space marines player. [00:46] ah [00:46] he hates women [00:46] i'm not much of a gamer, but i've enjoy a couple. i wish i had the disks to play them now [00:46] faster box and all that [00:47] i'm just saying, when it counts, you dont send in the sisters of battle to do a space marines' job [00:47] heh [00:47] Quiznos: this is tabletop [00:47] oh, like DnD? [00:47] yes [00:47] ah [00:47] Quiznos: as far as neither are computerised. [00:47] i played that once. that was enuf for me [00:47] nods [00:47] gotcha [00:48] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.134.163) left irc: "Saindo" [00:54] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:54] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:58] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.162.179) left irc: "good nite" [01:00] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:00] its rather quiet today, is everyone ok? [01:00] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:00] NEVAR [01:00] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:02] yup, we're all alright, just nothing to talk about. :P [01:03] it burns when I pee [01:03] TMI [01:03] :P [01:04] quasar: you should go see a doctor about that. [01:04] I did.. he told me to keep the lighter away when I'm urinating [01:04] and carry a fire extinguisher in case a fire breaks out. [01:05] missyjane, quasar has bacon and won't share [01:05] y0 edman007 [01:05] y0 [01:05] I never said I had bacon! [01:05] edman007: I'm a laptop owner now. \o/ [01:05] I have BACON and I won't share! [01:05] fire|bird, yay [01:06] quasar, so you did say it! [01:06] (10:23:07p)(quasar) it wasn't bacon! it was pepperoni pizza! [01:06] grats fire|bird [01:06] muahaha [01:07] LOL!! [01:07] quasar: hahaha [01:07] missyjane: thanks. [01:07] I still have some too :) [01:07] quasar: share [01:07] what's in it for me? [01:08] quasar, you had bacon pizza, i can smell it [01:08] quasar: Knowing that you were kind hearted and shared with others. [01:08] :x... [01:08] you know what i realized? [01:08] fire|bird: I dedicate 40 hours every year to the salvation army so my heart is already all warm and fuzzied out [01:08] quasar: haha, do you share your pizza with them? [01:09] actually they usually provide the pizza for me lol [01:09] they buy lunch :) [01:09] quasar, and what about me?!?!? [01:09] i need my bacon pizza [01:09] I'll sell you a pig for $20 [01:09] make your own bacon :) [01:09] quasar: Ever heard of pass it forward? People do good things for you, you should do good things for others, NOW SHARE. :D [01:10] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:10] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:10] Action: fire|bird fires up a pizza oven. [01:10] quasar, that sounds like a good deal...i'll take it [01:10] just make sure the pig is over 200 lbs [01:10] lol [01:11] not sure about that.. we named him Bill Gates because he's a skinny white pig [01:12] Albino pig, albino pig, does whatever an albino pig does. :P [01:13] quasar, is it at least 100lbs? [01:13] i suppose i can deal with that [01:13] the wiki says a bacon pig should be 140-180;bs [01:13] s/;/l/ [01:14] probably close to the lower end of that range [01:14] bacon pigs weigh more than I do O.O [01:14] hah.. not surprising really [01:14] quasar, 'Baconer, a market pig between 65 kg (140 lb) and 80 kg (180 lb) dressed weight. The maximum weight can vary between processors.' [01:15] and i will pay $20 for that much pork [01:16] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] by the time you cut off the head, hooves, etc it'll be around 120lbs! [01:16] nm, that's dressed weight [01:16] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:17] missyjane: what did you just realize? (and why are you being so quiet now?!) [01:17] I dont think she's a bacon lover :( [01:18] nah, she is probably busy hoarding bacon [01:18] how can you *not* love bacon. [01:19] BP{k}: At the Wisconsin state fair, the most popular item is chocolate covered bacon. [01:19] fire|bird, i need to try some of that [01:19] edman007: go to Wisconsin. :P [01:19] ugh chocolate is gross [01:19] or make some yourself [01:20] Action: edman007 slaps quasar [01:20] Action: fire|bird sends the Bill Gates pig after quasar [01:21] Action: quasar takes the leash off Tux to fend off Bill Gates [01:21] ZOMG I SOOO JUST PWNT U RITE THEYRE [01:21] Action: fire|bird sends a warthog after quasar [01:25] morning peeps [01:25] hey dive [01:25] what's with the piggies? [01:25] Action: fire|bird gives dive a cup of coffee. :) [01:25] fire|bird, cheers Ä [01:26] edman007 is pregnant and craving bacon [01:26] dive: edman007 wants bacon, thus the piggy talk. [01:26] quasar: wow, he's pregnant. [01:26] we all need bacon [01:26] edman007: when are you due? :P [01:26] yes, he told me yesterday [01:26] and i don't eat my young [01:26] Action: edman007 makes bacon out of quasar [01:27] Action: quasar is mostly fat. [01:27] perfect for bacon then. :) [01:27] like .. 97% [01:27] fathead? [01:27] 3% water [01:28] finally got around to using my current box [01:28] dive: I'm trying to image the laptop one last time with partimage this time. :P [01:28] properly that is. Seems some things don't compile with g++ 4.3.3 [01:29] dd didn't work?! [01:29] bbiab [01:29] fire|bird, keep at it, you'll get there eventually (or throw it through the window). [01:29] mancha: It worked, but not in qemu [01:29] dive: lol [01:30] wait, you're iaging a live windows system to use in qemu? [01:30] does that work? [01:31] Action: quasar sings hey pig.. yeah you.. hey pig piggy pig pig pig all of my dreams came true [01:33] lol im just busy writing... [01:33] writing love letters to bacon? [01:34] edman007 reminds me of the Beggin' Strips commercials... IT'S BACON! [01:34] Nexxus (n=vex@208.69.211.196) joined ##slackware. [01:34] lol [01:36] Action: nix_chix0r pulls down missyjane's pants [01:36] Action: quasar takes pictures [01:36] 4chan woot. [01:36] oh boy [01:37] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [01:37] congratulations, the maturity level in this room is equivalent to /dev/null 8-) [01:37] oh i'm sorry [01:38] Action: nix_chix0r pulls down TwinReverb 's pants [01:38] Action: quasar takes pictures and send them to flag@whitehouse.gov :D [01:38] Action: lf4 is blinded now [01:38] don't mind him, he was beatin as a child [01:38] rotfl [01:38] lol chopp [01:39] mephux (n=mephux@unaffiliated/mephux) joined ##slackware. [01:39] is there a way for me to get ttysnoop? [01:40] mancha: Well, not so far it isn't. :P [01:41] dive: 1 hour 32 min left. :P [01:41] fire, it sounds unlikely to work [01:41] partimage is what? Windows prog? [01:42] dive: no, System Rescue CD [01:42] mancha: probably won't, but I'm trying this one last way. [01:42] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:42] if there a one 'unixfool' in here? [01:42] qemu has its own set of "hardware" that'll probably break the install [01:43] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-38-55.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:43] i posted my password to ##security by accident [01:43] lol >< [01:43] fal [01:43] lol [01:43] if you wanwt it [01:43] ]aT7S/by/k>?EQqstQj}D9k(,tR0b;*)HWUKVa?w [01:43] epic fail [01:43] on the fal [01:44] Nexxus (n=vex@208.69.211.196) left irc: "Leaving" [01:44] nix_chix0r, being evil? [01:44] quasar: irony [01:44] missyjane, my password -> bZ1/Y5HhgJECN0TJ+84SDZ15GH7GlNQgoc7BmUKyr/iMEF3lihhOW4xJ0VXOWtR8pgw8 [01:45] yours has too many capital letter [01:45] seems like you didnt seed enough [01:45] well since everyone is sharing my password is: luvblackmen [01:45] lol [01:45] i wonder which account he has "luvblackmen" for [01:45] mine is sheisadouchebag [01:46] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:46] missyjane, nope, it is 51 random bytes encoded as base64, so not too many special characters, but it is just as secure (or a bit more) than a random 51 byte binary string [01:46] chopp: way to kill the moment :( [01:46] a bit less [01:47] the base64 pads the bits with real entropy [01:49] troy (n=quassel@70-91-138-90-ma-ne.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:49] ah [01:50] YWxsX2Fib3V0X3RoZV9idXR0X3NleA== [01:50] why not usemore special character? [01:50] =] [01:50] hashed password ftw [01:50] maybe its his wpa pw? [01:50] ooh hashed [01:50] come on someone can figure that out.. [01:50] its still hashed [01:50] i couldnt lol [01:50] mephux: mine is 2girls1cup [01:51] looks.. base64 [01:51] unpack it [01:52] type 'irb' paste '"YWxsX2Fib3V0X3RoZV9idXR0X3NleA==".unpack('m')' [01:52] lulz [01:53] my passwd: nyylbheonfrnerorybatgbhf [01:54] mancha: yeah, that's why I tried with sysprep and then imaged it, but no dice. It didn't work after sysprep for antiwire either, but I'm still trying. [01:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:56] ah interesting, the sysprep angle might work, if you fool it into thinking the qemu vm is your target machine [01:57] mancha: yeah, with the sysprepped image, what qemu does is sit there at a black screen with a gray progress bar at the bottom, the progress bar gets all the way to the right and then it just sits there. [01:57] mephux (n=mephux@unaffiliated/mephux) left ##slackware. [01:57] I was gonna try that same image in VBox and just see what happens. I have to get it converted first though. [01:58] so guys [01:58] Does the intel_agp driver support 1024x768? [01:58] you sysprepped the image then you ran it in qemu right? [01:58] it turns out ive been lied to [02:00] mancha: yeah [02:00] mancha: I've got so many images now, I'm out of hdd space to store any more, I have to clean things up a bit. :P [02:01] missyjane: eh? [02:02] what options do you pass wemu? [02:02] qemu [02:02] mancha: let me check the command history, I can't recall. sec. [02:02] melinda (n=melinda@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [02:03] melinda (n=melinda@61.43.249.3) left irc: Client Quit [02:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:03] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [02:04] mancha: qemu -boot c -drive file=/home/firebird/QEMU/windows_xp.bin Any other options I should try? [02:06] are there any way to run thunderbird like a daemon,so that it notify us when a new mail arrives,i mean presently TB should be running for the notification [02:07] i think i would have to use an external noticiation daemon, [02:07] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.118) joined ##slackware. [02:07] fire, yeah, can we try something a bit different? [02:08] qemu -m 256 -hda /home/firebird/QEMU/windows_xp.bin [02:08] mancha: sure, but looking, I don't have the image on my hdd here, it's on the external drive which is being used by the laptop for this other image which has about an hour to go yet. [02:09] hiptobecoobic (n=hiptobec@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] mancha: I will try that command, it may not be until tomorrow though because to transfer the windows_xp.bin takes about 1.5-2 hours to transfer. [02:10] ok, you can let me know. i have no idea if it'll help [02:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:10] k, I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens. thanks. [02:10] it appears that #python won't let any web client in at all. Even freenode's. [02:11] init[1]: after some googling, looks like you can do that with alltray (which is on SBo) [02:12] Action: missyjane coughs [02:12] fire|bird: thank you,i was just over there [02:12] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:13] init[1]: yw [02:16] RogueAI (n=RogueAI@75-120-138-11.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:17] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:18] Action: init[1] claws-mail , didn't work for me :/ ,now switching to TB :( [02:18] init[1]: how didn't claws work? [02:18] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] wb nix_chix0r :) [02:19] fire|bird: i was haunted by pop.gmail ssl certificate sprits [02:19] init[1]: I have claws + gmail and I don't get anything like that. [02:19] init[1]: why not use gmail imap with claws? Why pop? [02:20] fire|bird: same is the case with imap, but more pathetic [02:20] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [02:20] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] fire|bird: clasws crashed , [02:20] ouch, that sucks. [02:20] fire|bird: each time i run ,i get a changed cert alert [02:21] init[1]: just wait until TB3 is out (it's in beta right now) it's got a nice tabbed interface. :D [02:21] missyjane (n=jane@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:21] fire|bird: can you imagine a changed certificate ssl,DOS attack? [02:21] hahaha, yikes. [02:22] init[1]: tried kontact/kmail? :D [02:22] fire|bird: no, i'm not a kde guy, [02:22] tried mutt? [02:22] dive: yes ofcourse , [02:22] dive: do you use mutt for all your mail? [02:22] along with fetchmail and msmtp [02:22] bbiab [02:22] well I have a gmail which I use browser for [02:23] but mostly all mutt [02:23] mutt is to email like irssi is to irc [02:23] and slrn is to news [02:23] thats a horrible thought [02:23] aaa,some body said mutt like old school , [02:24] dive: i didn't felt soo, after its use [02:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [02:24] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:25] wow, alltray rocks ..// [02:25] Any ideas why I cant get 1024x768 to display? I know the card and monitor both support it. Here's my configurations. http://pastebin.com/m4198e891 [02:25] works perfect , [02:26] lf4: what is your present res? [02:27] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [02:27] sorry linux froze [02:27] yo missyjane [02:27] init[1]: 800x600 [02:27] lf4: i think it has somthing to do with the refresh rate [02:28] init[1]: That's what I have been messing around with for the past hour lol :) [02:28] lf4: do you have documentation of your monitor ? [02:29] I entered the correct refresh rate that the monitor supports. [02:29] init[1]: Yes its all online [02:30] lf4: try this, for 24bit, keep only "1024x768" [02:30] i remember doing this [02:30] bruteforcing [02:30] Alrihgt testing.. :) [02:32] josefig (n=josefig@200.92.183.57) joined ##slackware. [02:32] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:32] gnite from mexico my geek friends :D [02:36] goodnight [02:37] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:37] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] I want to make my own slackware -current dvd but i have no idea on how to download the slackware-current directory any help on how ? [02:37] init[1]: my monitor is doing the "out of range" display. Which is surprising because it supports 1680x1050 native. http://pastebin.com/m2a40379 [02:38] deco, alienBOB has a current mirror script on his site [02:38] dive: thanks ill check it out [02:39] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] lf4: why is the you default on vesa? [02:41] y0 Rat409 [02:41] haha init[1] i dont know, didn't notice that. This graphics card maybe? [02:41] hey fire|bird [02:41] lf4, why have you got 2 screen 1 sections? That is the most borked xorg.conf I have ever seen... [02:41] init[1]: could use opera and opera mail. :P [02:41] Rat409: how goes? [02:41] dive: slrn? never heard of that. [02:41] lf4: try using your gfx card driver, [02:41] dive: lol this is a fresh install of slackware 12.2 lol [02:42] lf4, you are better off deleting that and copying one of the defaults over [02:42] lf4: and try X -configure to get some idea about configuration [02:42] init[1]: will do. [02:42] fire|bird: good thanks,how's the new kde,? all still works fine? [02:42] fire|bird: open is closed ,that's what i don't like [02:42] s/open/opera/ [02:42] fire|bird: i got myself some dvds to try out kde4 on -current :P [02:43] dive: lol is there a default, you mean the vesa one? [02:43] init[1]: Boooo :P [02:43] fire|bird, slrn = console newsreader [02:43] fire|bird: :P [02:43] Rat409: still working awesome. [02:43] dive: ah, ok. cool [02:43] sweet :) [02:43] deco: sweet [02:44] init[1]: I had read that Opera Mobile is probably going to be on android phones. :D [02:44] lf4, there is a vesa and you are using vesa driver currently (no idea why). Try putting in a driver for your card and you might get proper resolution. Run X -configure _should_ make a pretty good conf [02:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:45] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [02:46] dive: This is an old system I dont even know what graphics card is it. Just did X -config and it seems to be having an issue with the fb lol lilo has vga=778 that might be the problem. [02:46] lf4: you fail. :P [02:46] fire|bird: Haha like always ;) [02:46] lf4, no X -configure shouldn't be affected by your console [02:47] fire|bird: I think xorg just hates me remember my issue a while back. [02:47] is C++ extremely off-topic here? [02:47] and it is X -configure not -config [02:47] lf4: yeah. :P [02:47] dchmelik, depends whether we know the answer or not :P [02:47] dive: I know I did -configure and then tested the xorg.conf.new with -config [02:47] dchmelik: #C++ on efnet is a very great resource. [02:47] ah [02:47] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:48] hello guys [02:48] ok, but i am on 12 channels... i will have to quit one or i cannot see the tabs [02:48] hello ga_bash [02:48] hi ga_bash [02:48] fire|bird, does slack uses vanilla kernel? [02:48] lol dchmelik [02:48] dchmelik: irssi? [02:48] lf4, lspci should list your graphics card [02:48] no, pidgin [02:48] dive: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 0b) [02:48] if irssi had tabs i would be using it [02:49] dchmelik: I'm in pidgin right now. :) [02:49] dchmelik: It does, sort of. :) [02:49] pidgin sucks hard [02:49] and if I did lsmod it shows the intel_agp driver loaded [02:49] dchmelik: alt+[a number] is exactly like having tabs [02:49] what do you mean, sort of? [02:49] dchmelik: besides, you can switch tabs in pidgin just like irssi, Alt+# of tab. [02:49] ++ zaltekk :) [02:49] dchmelik: Well, it has windows, which are sort of like tabs. [02:49] that is cool, but i do not know if want to switch back to irssi unless it has better IM features [02:50] lf4: what irc client you use? [02:50] I recompiled a kernel version 2.6.30.4 and after booting off it it runs into panic.. wow.. [02:50] fire|bird: irssi [02:50] you can configure mouse scroll buttons to do irssi tab switching somehow too :D [02:50] bye [02:50] agris (n=agris@195.13.163.133) left irc: "leaving" [02:50] argis: cool [02:50] dchmelik: it will still tell you when there is activity on a channel. it informs you if it is channel messages, talking, or your nick being used. [02:50] dchmelik: irssi doesn't have IM features, but bitlbee can be used with irssi, or any irc client for that matter. [02:50] lf4, try using driver sisfb [02:50] xchat rockz.. btw [02:50] bitblee? [02:51] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [02:51] lf4.. [02:51] dchmelik: yeah, google it, it's for im'ing from within irssi and other irc clients [02:51] dchmelik: it is an irc server that ties in all of your messaging networks [02:51] i think i will just be using GUI until FBUI gets voted back into the kernel or at least released for a newer one [02:51] i built bitlbee from sbopkg it chokes on the config file was thinking it hates utf8 [02:51] haha [02:51] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "goodnight" [02:52] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [02:52] Rat409: which irc client you using now? Weren't you trying conspire or something not that long ago? [02:53] errors were weird characyers checked the file normal text strange,yuh conspire is an xchat2 fork [02:53] Rat409: conspire is nice? [02:53] i think so but ymmv usually does [02:54] it's based on xchat, how can it be nicer than irssi:P [02:54] dive: dont have sisfb but I do have sis thats what X -configure set it as. [02:54] yes ga_bash ? [02:54] hi... I compiled linux-2.6.30.4 on my slackbox 12.2 and after booting off.. it gets in panic mode. anyone guys.. :) [02:54] lf4, [02:54] lf4, ok [02:54] ;) [02:54] Rat409: cool, I might try it out, but irssi is great. :D [02:54] i use irssi,weechat,even bx,epic4 at times [02:54] ga_bash, make sure you add support for your root filesystem or make an initrd [02:54] variety is nice [02:54] Rat409: oh yeah, I've been wanting to try weechat, just haven't done it yet. [02:55] dive, how to add support. dint understand... :( [02:55] epic4, hmm, another on I haven't heard of. :P [02:55] an ircii type client [02:55] ga_bash, which file system are you using for your root partition? [02:55] ga_bash: You add support when you are building the kernel. [02:55] Rat409: cool. [02:55] dive, ext3.. [02:56] ga_bash, did you make an initrd? [02:56] Rat409: I like a variety too, but always seem to go back to irssi. Quassel is very nice too however. [02:56] dive, no.. [02:56] ga_bash, did you compile in ext3 as "y"? [02:56] dive yes [02:56] I mean "*" [02:56] fire|bird: tried quassel but was awfully white/bright lol [02:56] haha [02:57] ga_bash, did you make support for virtual file system in ram? [02:57] dive, no I am not aware how to do it... [02:58] dive: here's something I got an error when testing xorg.conf.new: (EE) SIS(0): Framebuffer bpp 32 not supported for this chipset [02:58] ok [02:58] good night <3 [02:58] Rat409: opera irc isn't bad, aside from no automatic logging. [02:58] night missyjane [02:59] fire|bird: http://www.nenolod.net/conspire [02:59] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [02:59] mine is 1.0beta1 [03:00] lf4: check you default depth [03:00] brb [03:01] ga_bash, try CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD [03:01] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:01] lf4, make defauldepth 24 [03:02] hey Keiffer, your wife just left. :P [03:02] dive, thanks. I would try that :) [03:02] fire|bird, damn, she haven't spoke to me in days... [03:03] fire|bird: aa, are you sure about opera and andriod thing ? [03:03] ga_bash, also file systems - virtual file system [03:03] How are you today? [03:03] init[1]: I'm sure that's what I read. [03:03] Keiffer: doing great, thanks. you? [03:03] init[1]: I'll see if I can find the link. sec. [03:03] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:03] fire|bird: alltray works great [03:04] sweet [03:04] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [03:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:04] Hello! [03:04] Playing with linux. Trying to find a good proxy to apply systemwide [03:04] hi shik4nt4z4 [03:05] And searching for a web browser... [03:06] opera ftw!!! [03:06] init[1]: Hmm, may not be default browser, but here's a link (not the link I'd seen before) http://www.androidapps.com/t/opera-mobile-browser [03:06] I don't like it. Back on windows I loved chrome. [03:06] More than my wife [03:06] :O [03:06] haha [03:07] hiptobecoobic (n=hiptobec@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:07] Keiffer: Why don't you like opera? Tried Firefox, arora, midori, konqueror, Seamonkey. etc? [03:07] fire|bird: midori is quite cool. [03:07] yeah, it is. [03:08] I installed the source when installing slack but its not in /usr/src or /usr/local/src .... [03:08] Tried firefox and konqueror. Firefox seem the best choice, it has many plugins.. [03:09] fogus (n=fogus@d75-157-237-3.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:09] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-152-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Action: init[1] adding alltray thunderbird to xfce startups [03:11] \o/ [03:11] portia (n=portia@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] lf4: are you still alive with that card ? [03:11] Action: init[1] fire|bird saved the day for init[1] [03:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:12] :D [03:12] init[1]: still working on it. [03:12] Orion7 (n=Orion7@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] dive: Rat409 I changed that and it still seems to be crashing X [03:13] sup guys [03:13] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:13] logout/login [03:13] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] ? [03:13] Rat409: yep [03:13] everything but a restart [03:14] you might need 16 bit defaultdepth then [03:14] dive: Testing... [03:14] lf4: its would better if you pastebin xorg.log,when you face issues [03:14] or just vesa.. [03:15] Nick change: obnauticus_ -> obnauticus [03:16] init[1]: Alright I can do that as well. [03:16] dive: Haha maybe I should go buy a new agp card ;) one that is not so old. [03:17] sounds like it hasn't got a lot of video ram [03:17] The one I'm on now hasn't [03:17] savage s3 that I have to run in 16 bit [03:18] \o/, the partimage is done now. [03:18] fire|bird: is alltray thing possible for irssi [03:18] seems like it can't [03:18] :( [03:18] alltray doesn't seem to work too well here [03:18] tried it with firefox and it went weird [03:18] init[1]: Um, not sure, that sounds interesting though. [03:18] dive: i works well with thunderbird [03:19] s/i/it/ [03:19] dive how did you start alltray [03:19] alltray xterm -e irssi [03:19] wow [03:19] alltray firefox [03:19] hmm, [03:19] didn't tru with xterm [03:19] if you code do you prefer programming language channels here or on Efnet? [03:19] and pcmanfm it didn't make an icon [03:20] dive: lol its only 8mb I just checked. [03:20] holy.. [03:20] no kidding i think thats the problem [03:20] lf4: i think you can change that to atleast 16 [03:21] get a better card for crying out loud. :P [03:21] in bios [03:22] dive: wow, it worked out great [03:22] i mean the irssi thing [03:22] fire|bird: its an old 1998 computer I had lying around and figured why not use it for something :) [03:23] dive: \o/, now I have 11 laptop.img.# files. :P [03:23] lf4: lol, maybe stick with no X at all. :P [03:23] all cli, vga=normal. :P [03:23] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] fire|bird: I might haha [03:24] if I cant get this working. [03:24] lf4: you can run it as a hardware fw [03:24] lf4: may be use ipcop [03:25] init[1]: it only has one nic I probably would set it up has a DHCP/DNS server. [03:25] old post on lq forum says 8mb card worked in slack circa 2005,no dri tho but way diff xserver,kernels [03:25] lf4: aa,hope you have domestic electricity billing :P [03:26] init[1]: lol why? [03:26] i mean running all these consumes more power, and more over that is an old machine, which may not save power at all [03:27] does any one have cool irssi icon (png) ? [03:27] lol this one machine wont really make a dent from all the other stuff I am running you should see my desk. [03:28] Wait a second I think I have another graphic's card lying around somewhere. :D [03:28] lf4: found this,not your chip but might help http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xf86-video-sis [03:28] lf4: Oh sure, NOW you think of that other card. :P [03:29] gentoo/arch wikis are fairly good if alienbob doesn't have info [03:29] aa, found one icon,http://alternativeto.net/Upload/Icons/b9851c94-63f6-42ab-8d1c-5332e7d7066a.png [03:29] haha fire|bird I thought I gave it away when I built a computer for my grandmother. [03:29] lol [03:30] lf4: Her's runs slack, right? :P [03:30] thanks Rat409 I will take a look at it. :) [03:30] fire|bird: No ways I dont want to mess with having to teach my family linux. [03:30] haha [03:30] they find windows confusing enough. [03:31] fire|bird: haha not so ridiculous for someone who isn't going to be doing much more than internet browsing/emailing [03:31] Orion7: nope, not at all. :) [03:31] lf4: not Vista I hope? :P [03:32] fire|bird: NEVER :P [03:32] phew [03:32] wow, alltray with TB and irssi http://imagebin.ca/view/SOmGZP.html [03:32] hi people [03:33] yo Thom1 [03:33] init[1]: that is sweet. [03:33] init[1]: xfce? [03:33] yea, btw its on xfce [03:33] yes [03:33] nice init[1] :) [03:34] init[1]: what terminal are you using? [03:34] :) wait a sec, i will put my entire desktop [03:34] fire|bird: termianl [03:34] xfce terminal [03:34] cool [03:34] it render fonts better [03:35] IMO [03:35] yeah [03:35] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Does anyone had problems with cmake? [03:36] I was trying to install kde4 and had problem with cmake [03:36] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:36] x1user: you're trying to build kde4 in 12.2? [03:36] tar -cvfz backup.tgz --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt/* --exclude/media/* --eclude/tmp/* --exclude/dev/* --exclude/proc/* --exclude/opt/* --exclude/lost+found/* / [03:36] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest15760 [03:36] 12.1 but upgradet with slackpkg and new kernel [03:37] what do you think of that? [03:37] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:37] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:37] x1user: upgraded to what? kde4 is NOT going to build on 12.1, at least not without a LOT of upgrades to a lot of stuff. [03:38] and even then, it probably would not work. [03:38] init[1]: alltray + irssi is SWEET. [03:38] whoops [03:38] so how can i upgrade my 12.1 to current [03:38] Guest15760: o_O [03:38] what happend to your nick [03:38] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:39] init[1]: It's me, fire|bird (phoenix^), I didn't identify in time. :P [03:39] Nick change: Guest15760 -> phoenix^ [03:39] lf4 Guest15760: thank you :),im gona pastebin my desktop [03:39] what web server does slackware come built in with? it seems like apache, but then again it doesnt :S [03:40] My X keeps crashing. A black screen appeared and the last line said Setting power adjustement ... 0xfe (254) or something [03:40] s/pastebin/imagebin/ [03:40] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [03:40] x1user: I'm not sure that there is an upgrade path from 12.1 to current. You'd have to try upgrading to 12.2 and then to current, but there's no guarantee's that would work. The best way would probably be a fresh install of current. [03:40] wb lf4 [03:41] so what i will need to preinstall on every new release? [03:41] freakin wrong terminal! lol [03:41] lol thansk fire|bird [03:41] lf4: hahaha [03:41] init[1]: try ompload,theres also a firefox ext altho i use a script.its fast [03:42] x1user: what exactly do you mean? [03:42] lf4 hello [03:42] Rat409: a script to upload to omploader? [03:42] yuh [03:42] cool [03:42] hi Keiffer [03:42] i can paste it,1 sec [03:42] That if i want to run latests slackware version, i will need to install every new release [03:43] I usually use imagebin unless whatever isn't under the 1MB limit, then I use omploader. [03:43] ladies , here is my home sweet desktop http://imagebin.ca/view/92DrZWo.html [03:44] x1user: Well, if you want to run the latest stable release, you may be able to just upgrade from release to release, like from 12.1 to 12.2. If you want to run current, you would either have to upgrade to the latest stable release (and then try your luck at upgrading to current), install a fresh latest stable release and upgrade to current, or just do a fresh install of current. [03:44] init[1]: ladies? who you callin ladies? :P [03:45] Action: lf4 is and "it" [03:45] missyjane [03:45] :P [03:45] init[1]: she isn't here, she left. :D [03:45] Oh, I KNOW, you were talking about lf4. [03:45] Action: fire|bird runs [03:45] aaw,yea i came to knew that when i couldn't tab complete [03:46] init[1]: Very nice desktop. pcmanfm? [03:46] fire|bird: I never said I was female or male :) [03:46] lf4: nope, indeed you didn't. I'm guessing you're male though. [03:46] or, are you a combo of both. [03:46] Action: fire|bird walks away [03:47] fire|bird: no Thunar [03:47] Shemales lol no thank you. [03:47] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:47] init[1]: Ah, nice. It looked like pcmanfm sort of. [03:47] lf4: o_O [03:47] fire|bird: i use it,but didn't write it http://pastebin.ca/1522753 [03:47] lf4: haha, same here. [03:47] Rat409: awesome, thank you. [03:47] Rat409: thank you for that ompload idea [03:47] run in xterm ompload foo.png foo.jpg etc [03:48] init[1]: c'mon, VBox, jump on the qemu bandwagon man. :P [03:48] fire|bird: its used only to run Windows, i use qemu for MINIX 3 [03:48] and other distros [03:48] init[1]: good man. :) [03:49] fire|bird: windows seems to run pretty well with VB [03:49] Rat409: haha, pastebin, Eat409? typo I take it? :P [03:49] i just use to run PageMaker , [03:49] init[1]: yeah, I have windows 7 in it. [03:49] yuh sorry [03:49] no worries, I just thought it was funny. :P [03:49] my report are to be in pmd thigie , University rule :/ [03:52] on irssi and pidgin both. :D [03:52] The other day, I was using opera irc and was on as fire [03:52] fire|bird, phoenix^, and firebird619 [03:53] lol you haven't used firebird619 in a long time. [03:53] Do you have any idea on what proxy / where to find one to apply it system wide? And is it a good idea? [03:53] phoenix^: for the encription thing to work out with pidgin, should other peer be in pidgin? or they would have to install plugin for their client? [03:53] oh noes ! my C compiler cannot create executables! [03:53] lf4: no I haven't. [03:53] Action: quasar compiles the compiler. [03:54] init[1]: As far as I know, you both have to be on pidgin. I don't think the encryption can work across clients. Also, encryption (at least at high bit encryption) does not work over irc, me and antiwire tried it. [03:55] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.111.240) joined ##slackware. [03:56] good that you ppl tested it :) [03:56] yeah, but too bad it doesn't work. At least not yet. [03:56] does anyone else constant hit alt+f2 instead of alt+2 when using irssi =/ [03:56] I like pidgin for irc, etc. though, it's nice and has some very nice plugins. [03:56] lol awe phoenix^ no 4096 [03:57] dakarn: not I. [03:57] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] i must have a freakisly long ring finger on my left hand [03:57] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [03:57] lf4: lol [03:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [03:57] so who is going to be running an old 32 bit system in 2038? [03:57] <-- [03:57] lf4: i would [03:58] 486 baby. [03:58] me too [03:58] quasar: I have a 286 running right now :) [03:58] my system is more than 5 yrs old [03:58] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] lf4: Um, you? :P [03:58] never had a 286 or a 386.. went straight from 8088 to 486 lol [03:58] phoenix^: Yeah its the first system I ever used... 1987 :D [03:58] Action: init[1] afk, back to work [03:58] init[1]: mine's from 2004, that I'm on right now. lappy is from 07 [03:58] later init[1] [03:58] Tandy 1000 is fastest computer still. [03:58] later init[1] [03:59] lf4: hahaha [03:59] Will lf4 still be using an old 32bit system in 2038? [03:59] Action: init[1] bye phoenix^ ,lf4 , btw don't talk to my bouncer :D [03:59] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [03:59] init[1]: haha, ok. [04:00] lf4: There's your answer. :D [04:00] The 8ball has spoken [04:01] fire|bird: Haha Oh heck yeah I will... So far I have next to me a 286/1987 P2-500/1999 my server built this year and my laptop from lastyear :D [04:01] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] lf4: hahaha [04:01] alright, I'll as the 8ball again. [04:01] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [04:01] lol :P [04:02] Action: fire|bird shakes 8ball really good. [04:02] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [04:02] night guys be well [04:02] night Rat409 [04:02] Action: quasar flips the 8ball off [04:02] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:02] fire|bird: don't you know its a command /magic8 "question" [04:02] lf4: not in pidgin [04:02] Thats for IM not IRC :P [04:02] lf4: no, this is for irc in pidgin [04:03] ok lf4, ask the 8-ball a question by /8-ball: question_here [04:04] quasar: you know, the 8ball seen that coming. :P [04:04] lol [04:04] Hmm, it isn't working. [04:04] Action: quasar grabs a blow torch [04:04] it said "if lf4 is still around in 2038" [04:04] does it see this coming? :) [04:05] haha quasar [04:05] you're going to melt fire|bird's ball [04:05] you leave my 8balls alone [04:05] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-139-33-247.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [04:05] you have 8? [04:05] hahahahahahahahaha [04:06] lf4: you've never heard of backups? [04:06] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-152-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:06] lol not that way. no i haven't [04:06] lol [04:07] am I the only person that finds the slapchop commercial offensive? [04:07] and painful [04:07] 8-ball: Is quasar the only person? [04:07] 8-ball says: You will have to wait [04:07] 8-ball: Will lf4 be using an old computer in 2038? [04:07] Alright so there is a reason why I didn't use that other graphics card. The stupid thing doesn't work! [04:07] 8-ball says: Forget about it [04:08] slapchop commercial? [04:08] lf4: alright irssi 8 ball is working. 8-ball: question_here? [04:08] seriously, try it. [04:10] phoenix^: /8-ball: "How many balls does phoenix^ have?" [04:10] 8Ball: "Error 8th Bit = NULL" [04:10] ydiw [04:10] it's "8-ball: question_here?" [04:10] chan.slackware[iq]=tolower(chan.slackware[iq]); <-- why isn't this working? :( [04:11] quasar: because it's not right? [04:11] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [04:11] lf4: and, you don't use my nick first. :) [04:11] and no quotes [04:11] doh, was mixing Lua with C++ -_- [04:12] good grief man, how have you kept a job this long? :P [04:12] lol :P my syntax is different phoenix^ [04:12] lf4: no, I mean you use my syntax, it asks my script here the question and gives an answer. [04:12] When I have the script loaded, anyone in the channel can use it. [04:13] 8-ball: How crazy is lf4? [04:13] 8-ball says: My sources say no [04:13] Your scritp is bogus... you set it up. [04:13] NO? thats not even a closed ended question haha [04:13] lf4: no, someone else did and submitted it to irssi scripts. [04:14] lol phoenix^ wow your not kidding [04:14] anyway, it's 03:11, time to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [04:14] lf4: Well I could've told you that. :P [04:14] night phoenix^ :) [04:14] night lf4 :) [04:14] night lf4 [04:14] night quasar [04:14] night quasar [04:14] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [04:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Here I go!"). [04:16] o.o [04:20] josefig (n=josefig@200.92.183.57) left irc: "Leaving" [04:21] Is Konsole in Slackware support colors? I tried to write command echo "^[[0;31;40mIn Color" in Konsole terminal, and it should gave me text "In Color" in red, but nothing happened (it just wrote ^[[0;31;40mIn Color). Does anyone knows whats going on here? I'm using Slackware 12.2. Thank you. [04:22] echo -e [04:22] just a guess, I'm sure someone will correct if I'm wrong [04:22] supergear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:22] quasar: same result, man :( [04:25] Anyone heard of the graphic card brand sparkle? lol [04:25] echo -e "\e[0;31;40mInColor" -> (red)InColor [04:25] lf4: yes [04:25] my mom has a sparkle card [04:25] it sucks [04:25] quasar: lol ok [04:26] what about msi? [04:26] yep [04:26] er, video card? [04:26] no [04:27] yeah they make video cards as well lol. [04:27] I just found that out. [04:27] weird o.O [04:27] meh.. Asus does too so I guess it's not all that strange (this machine has an Asus card) [04:28] quasar: Thank you, bro, that it :) [04:28] and had I known beforehand that it was HT memory I would've never got it [04:28] sh0ne: np.. you can get more info at.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code [04:28] HT? [04:29] \o/ gf accepts kde4 [04:29] nice eviljames :) [04:30] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:30] digiKam 0.10.0 was a must, amaroK2 has been adapted to. [04:30] that's basically a ++ alienbob when he's around. [04:31] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:31] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [04:32] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [04:32] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:39] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [04:42] HEY DO YOU NO WATS AWESUMM GOINGTOBED [04:42] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:42] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: Client Quit [04:43] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.35) joined ##slackware. [04:43] er.. not HT, HM (Hyper Memory.. basically makes the system think I have a 1GB card when its 512MB) [04:46] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.115) joined ##slackware. [04:46] quasar: Oh lol yeah because it writes up and reads down :) I remember that stuff. [04:47] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] damn damn damn [04:48] my monitor is going out [04:48] no more greens and yellows [04:48] old ass crt [04:49] hey all [04:50] hi [04:50] superGear: what is the model and brand [04:50] hello masterx831 :) [04:52] lf4: hey thank you for the help last night [04:52] elderK (n=elderk@222-152-99-143.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Hey guys [04:52] wine is acting up but works great [04:52] :P How can it act up but work great? [04:52] :P [04:52] lol [04:52] :) [04:53] masterx831: No problem lol did you look more into the virtualization? [04:53] I mean it's acting up a little by locking up, but it has been working great with most program. trying to install www.gunzonline.com [04:53] lf4: yeah it looks too advance for me! [04:54] masterx831: It's really simple :) maybe some time later you can mess with it. [04:55] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:56] Is there any way to make Firefox default browser in Slackware, or it must be Konqueror for some reason? Where is the config file with that option? I checked /etc and /usr folders, but cannot find anything, tried through Control Center, nothing again (just some options for already default web browser). [04:56] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Connection timed out [04:57] lf4: more when I develope my skills on slackware [04:57] its amazing I have learn so much in slackware then using mandriva [04:57] sh0ne, "Is there any way to make Firefox default browser in Slackware", you mean : "Is there any way to make Firefox default browser in KDE" [04:57] I never even learned crap into it [04:58] Thom1: you have to make sure to have the programs using firefox as your main target like [04:58] amsn make sure it's targeted to firefox by setting the options in properties [04:59] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.234) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:59] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:59] masterx831: old Sony [04:59] masterx831, of course, but it's not depanding of slackware, but softwares he uses [05:00] Monitor: Generic Non-PnP Monitor [05:00] that says alot [05:06] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. 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[05:13] x1user: yes it will [05:14] i'd assume so. i never did an upgrade. i just do a fresh install [05:14] current currently says 13.0.0.0 [05:14] 13.0.0.0.0 now huh ... something messed [05:14] that's the idea of linux, never to reinstall huh :) [05:15] Cann0n is from the windows world ;P [05:15] j/k [05:15] har har [05:15] LOL [05:15] not. i did an upgrade once... [05:15] http://pastebin.org/7608 will this be enough for upgrade [05:15] i just tweaked so many things, it's easier to start over than the remember what i touched and what was different [05:16] the idea is to keep old configs [05:16] like i said. it's easier to start over impo [05:16] British technology journalist [05:18] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.178.104) left irc: "Leaving" [05:18] i picked a shitty time to get on huh... [05:18] no one i know is on [05:19] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] i think... there for i am... 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I dont know how to do that. I checked Control Center, but nothing there on the subject. [06:06] How to configure slrn newsreader on slackware/ [06:07] I found the solution...yeey..Thank you, everyone :-) [06:07] adeodatus: this will get you going http://www.andrews-corner.org/slrn.html but slrn has extensive documentation in www.slrn.org [06:08] thanks, sahko [06:11] sh0ne, ok, sorry but I don't know kde [06:12] Thom1: Thank you anyway, man, you helped me to formulate question better, that way I found solution;) [06:14] :) [06:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:16] elderK (n=elderk@222-152-99-143.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving..." [06:19] morn [06:21] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77F39.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:24] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:25] OS is Slackware sort of like God is me [06:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:27] tooly (n=tooly@e178129116.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:28] the toolchain has loaded [06:29] ktos (n=ktos@adfh25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:30] Hi [06:30] hi ktos [06:30] I have just installed current64 [06:31] is 64 any faster? [06:32] didn't tested yed, but seems to be nice [06:33] i remember someone telling me that as most apps won't use all 64bits 64 bit machines won't be all that faster. but i assume the kernel uses all 64bits and ergo linux is faster. [06:33] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.81.39) left irc: "Leaving." [06:33] still, i'll be on the laptop, 32bit, until it begs me for assisted suicide. and it's been going well for 4 yrs now... [06:34] yeah it should, probably it depens on application design of threads [06:34] heh [06:34] but tell me please why on 32bit machine where I have slack 12 there is kernel with smp and on 64bit machine where just installed current64 there is kernel without "smp" label on the end? I thought smp is just the most nice on 64bit [06:34] its optional and doesnt interfere if hardware isnt present [06:35] save the space, use correct kernel. [06:35] 64bit is smp. it cant be non smp [06:35] no, bitlength isnt related to smp [06:35] smp deps on mobo [06:36] Quiznos: but when I login I see kernel version without "smp" ending, does it means smp is not compiled in? [06:36] correct [06:37] Quiznos: so I shoudn't use smp kernel if I have 64bit CPU because it built in kernel and not must be emulated by kernel? ;) [06:37] ktos: stop being an idiot [06:37] because its* [06:37] if mobo doesnt do smp, then kernel-smp isnt needed [06:37] ktos: smp or not smp ONLY mattercs on 32 bit [06:37] Zordrak: I am kernel noob, not idiot :/ [06:37] Zordrak pls dont confuse ppl [06:37] ktos ig him [06:38] Quiznos: ok [06:38] :) [06:38] hes just asking the same stupid question [06:38] there are no "stoopit questions" only unasked ones [06:38] this is confusing [06:38] Quiznos: is mobo mothermoard? [06:38] ugh.. stupid weekend idiots [06:38] yes [06:39] Action: yesyes hugs his 32 bits [06:39] Zordrak: fu [06:39] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.118) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:39] ktos dont respond! [06:39] Quiznos: ok, wont [06:39] yesyes: its actually less confusing. on 64bit you can prletend smp doesnt exist.. its just there [06:40] Zordrak: i'm pretending 64bits doesn't exist. even less confusing. [06:40] Quiznos: how can I check does mobo do smp? [06:41] ktos bios; manual; online manuf. website for spec-sheet file [06:41] Quiznos: yeah, but how its described? just "smp" ? [06:41] yes [06:44] Quiznos: sorry for noobness but I am a bit confused, is SMP only for two separates processors or it's used also on two cores of one cpu ? [06:44] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:45] dont apologise for not knowing something. [06:45] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:45] :) [06:45] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=smp [06:45] ktos, i'm not sure. google/study [06:46] >.< [06:46] alredy done,at wikipedia it's described as two processors but wanted to ask to be sure [06:46] ktos: cores [06:46] not processors [06:47] technically a core is a processor [06:48] that was just confused because in my wikipedia it wasnt specifiefied, just looked to en wiki and there it is [06:48] but Zordrak said it doesnt matter on 64 bits, is it true? [06:49] ktos: why else would pat ship no special kernel for it? [06:49] core == processor? .. when did a core get its own cache?! [06:49] i didnt say core === processor [06:49] acutally if my mobo support my CPU which is dual core it means it supports smp [06:50] quasar: he said smp is used also for multicores [06:51] Zordrak: that is good point because Pat is wise just wanted to be sure :) [06:51] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:52] Zordrak: and remeber everybody are not so wise like you, and sometimes need to hear answer twice to undestand [06:52] SMP has never worked for me on a machine with 1 processor .. multicore or not [06:52] Action: Zordrak golf claps [06:52] in fact.. iirc, the info says "more than one CPU" .. CPU != core [06:53] why not? [06:53] quasar: wiki says smp works on cores [06:53] spectre (n=Uganda@41.210.144.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:53] ktos get the spec-file for your mobo; that's definitive. [06:54] Quiznos: i checked it, dont see any position like smp on there [06:54] ok. [06:54] quasar: wiki "In the case of multi-core processors, the SMP architecture applies to the cores, treating them as separate processors." [06:55] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [06:58] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:00] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77F39.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:01] you're not alone ktos http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243185 [07:01] "i am here with you..." [/micheal jackson] [07:01] hehe [07:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: "Leaving." [07:02] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [07:03] i wonder how long it took for everyone to go from 16 to 32 bits [07:04] early 90s for me; a Leading Edge "box" [07:04] i expect this time it'll be longer, as there are more of everyone to convert [07:04] Action: yesyes feels retro with his 32 bits [07:04] finally, i'm in fashion! [07:05] still on a 32bitter now [07:05] btw what is problem of rasing bits? why not 128bits instead of 64? [07:05] i'd rather have more ram than more bitlen tho [07:06] ktos: i expect it's harder to implement on the hardware level [07:07] mind you consoles are quite high, bitwise, now. [07:07] Action: rrh went straight from 8b to 32b [07:07] what are the benefits of 64b ? [07:07] ][+? [07:07] hello there [07:07] ktos: oh, you'd have to get all the oses to support, too. which takes time. [07:07] new dropline out now http://www.droplinegnome.org/ [07:08] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:08] mohaa: great.. somewhere new to take a dump [07:08] Action: yesyes shuns both kde and gnome [07:08] :> [07:12] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:16] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:17] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.77) joined ##slackware. [07:20] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host92-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [07:26] _quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:26] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:26] Nick change: _quasar -> quasar [07:29] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] good morning all [07:29] hi [07:30] I am trying to help a friend choose a distro for his new netbook, however I cannot find a listing on distrowatch for Atom based architectures. Would ARM based distros work on atom systems? [07:31] atom is a new processor iinm [07:31] not arm afaik [07:31] google them [07:32] or just boot one and see what happs [07:32] or several [07:32] go for ubuntu [07:32] that is what I was figuring, but offhand the only distro I can think of that is atom based is ubuntu netbook remix and I want to give him something with more abilities [07:32] more can always be added after install [07:32] more abilities? [07:32] sure [07:33] capabil [07:33] what do you want to do with more abilities? launch a rocket to mars? [07:33] wouldnt you? [07:33] if I'd had one :))) [07:33] if one thinks of limitations, then one has them. [07:35] u5er51 (n=Devoid@117.200.56.177) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Padhu1 (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:36] it looks like or we can just have him compile a new kernel for another distro after the fact [07:36] yea [07:38] i m not able to mount DvD-rw , its device node is sdb ( IDE) when i type "mount /dev/sdb" it says :- mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist any solution ? [07:41] maybe try /dev/cdrom :) or whatever it points to [07:42] "no medium found " i think slackware is not able to find my dvd-rw [07:43] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [07:46] is there a disc in it? [07:46] tooly (n=tooly@e178129116.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [07:46] yea [07:46] no medium found is a bit different than "does not exist" .. that's why I ask [07:47] >"mount /dev/sdb" it says :- mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist< [07:49] is it a blank CD/DVD? [07:50] yea [07:50] you can't mount a blank CD/DVD [07:51] i m not able to mount device [07:51] so we agree :) [07:52] have you tried with a medium that has data? [07:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) joined ##slackware. [07:52] or in other words, a non-blank disc [07:52] yea tried [07:52] :( [07:53] u5er51: try "cdrecord -scanbus" and see what you get! [07:54] tc (n=tc@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:55] it's working now :) [07:55] thanks :) [07:55] spectre (n=Uganda@41.210.144.86) joined ##slackware. [07:55] and it's displaying my device now :P [07:55] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Action: quasar wonders [07:56] is it usb? [07:56] no IDE [07:57] its IDE [07:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-78-106.vntc.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:00] tc (n=tc@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [08:04] cdfs needs to be in Slackware [08:04] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [08:06] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:06] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:08] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] elkng (n=wnb@gprs-78-106.vntc.ru) left irc: "leaving" [08:09] I use : ccmake .. -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" -DPREFIX="/usr" to compile weechat-0.3.0, and PREFIX is set to /usr but nothing is set to CMAKE_C_FLAGS or CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS [08:09] I tried also : CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" CMAKE_C_FLAGS="-O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686" ccmake .. but it doesn't work [08:09] any idea ? [08:10] making what? [08:10] weechat-0.3 [08:10] why ccmake? [08:11] to show available options, but normally I use cmake [08:11] there is a bug using autotools [08:11] and cmake is recommended by weechat dev [08:11] put the vars you define into the proper file [08:12] I'm trying to make a slackbuild so I don't really want to edit a file [08:12] nods [08:12] hmm; cmake isnt proper for a slackbuild [08:12] oNaiPs (n=root@bl15-71-233.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:12] make them environ vars [08:13] but autotools doesn't work very good with weechat-0.3 [08:13] gnu auto*? [08:13] hi, i have my KDE 4.3.0 slackware packages almost done, im looking for a site to host them, any ideas? [08:13] berlios? [08:13] Quiznos, auto* from slackware [08:14] slack doesnt have autotools [08:14] that term refers to gnu autoconf tools [08:14] pls dont redefine terms! [08:15] mrS (n=Sven@82.75.176.213) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Quiznos, I mean autoconf and automake [08:15] those arent slack tools; those are gnu autoconf tools. pls get the names and purpose correct. [08:15] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:15] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.64.152) joined ##slackware. [08:16] if the tools dont work on a pkg "out of box" then the src pkg is broke [08:17] oNaiPs: just put some SlackBuild files on slackbuilds.org let users build their own [08:17] "Quiznos | those arent slack tools; those are gnu autoconf tools." I mean official autoconf and automake packages from slackware [08:17] no such beasts [08:18] refer to them as slackpkg; it's not good to confuse a Quiznos sammich. [08:18] i'll ooze on you! [08:19] oNaiPs: not sure about packages but slackbuilds would probably take the .SlackBuild files, if you have them (I personally dont use pre-build packages, sorry) [08:19] s/build/built/ [08:19] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [08:19] quasar yes you do :) you use pat's pre-built pkgs :) [08:19] slack isnt a src dist! heh [08:20] I download the .SlackBuilds and build them myself :) [08:20] Action: quasar strangles Quiznos [08:20] shush you. [08:20] Action: Quiznos oozes [08:21] I trust Pat! [08:21] agreed [08:21] I carry his picture in my wallet [08:21] sorry, i normally dont use slackbuilds, ill look into that after release the packages [08:21] Thom1: have a look at other cmake builds on SBo to get an idea on what might be wrong [08:21] i totally dislike auto* tools [08:21] Quiznos: why shouldn't cmake be proper for a SlackBuild? [08:22] oNaiPs: (afaik) this channel doesn't support pre-built packages other than those found on the slackware mirrors also.. so I'm not sure too many folks in here would host them for you [08:22] i believe kde-4.x requires cmake [08:22] pprkut i meant that ccmake isnt the norm for building (i know of it tho) [08:22] to build [08:22] Pig_Pen: true [08:23] linuxpackages.net might do it ;p [08:23] runs [08:23] :O [08:23] Action: quasar waits for the banmonster. [08:23] i never use that website [08:23] Quiznos: yeah, but he's trying to figure out a problem, for which ccmake is totally fine [08:23] ok [08:24] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [08:24] i roll my own packages like making homemade bread, i occasionally use slackbuilds on those hard to build and dependency troublesome packages [08:25] so do I now.. thanks to my nifty neat slackbuild generator :D (first program I've written in 12 years or so lol) [08:25] share!!! [08:25] its not done.. I'm making it better while learning c++ [08:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [08:26] lol [08:26] er.. it's not done because I'm making it better, I guess is a better way to put it lol [08:26] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:27] c++ does surprise me though.. everything that I've found on google tells me that cin can't read a single character then continue to run the program unless that char is \n .. but you can do it in TP! [08:27] then use getchar() and family [08:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-181-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [08:30] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-139-33-247.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] Action: quasar tries [08:31] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-85-28.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:34] oNaiPs (n=root@bl15-71-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:36] grep CMAKE_C_FLAGS CMakeCache.txt : CMAKE_C_FLAGS=-O2 -march=i486 -mtune:UNINITIALIZED=i686. It means -mtune=i686 or not ? [08:36] if the opt is not otherwise assigned to then assign i686 to it [08:37] supergear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:37] uninitialised, more than unset; never set. then set to... [08:37] the concept is from Ada [08:38] distinguishes set from never initialised; like a auto-stack var in a local function. [08:38] local to a function. [08:38] u5er51 (n=Devoid@117.200.56.177) left irc: "Leaving" [08:38] space allocated but no value provided. [08:39] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:40] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:40] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-178-182.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:41] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [08:53] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:55] quasar result of getchar()? [08:55] spectre (n=Uganda@41.210.144.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:55] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:56] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-178-182.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [09:03] cmair82 (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:04] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:04] sorry, nope.. still waits for \n [09:05] ok; see stty.1 or setterm.1 for fixing that. [09:05] that's an tty thingy [09:05] can be fixed. [09:05] i forget the fn() tho [09:05] stty()? [09:06] tells kernel to nopause, return one immed. [09:06] char-at-a-time; not on \n hit [09:06] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@97-117-94-186.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@209-181-84-143.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:09] system("stty raw"); <-- gonna try it [09:09] Action: quasar cooks stty [09:10] quasar rulez :) [09:10] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:10] he's king of his ttys [09:11] ah btw, I forgot to thank [09:11] u5er51 (n=Devoid@117.200.56.177) joined ##slackware. [09:11] thank yuo Quiznos, Zordrak (even you hate me ;) ) and quasar :) [09:11] s/yuo/you [09:12] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:12] when slackware 13 is going to release ? ?? ? [09:13] Action: ktos says Muse unbreakable rulez [09:13] u5er51: soon probably its rc1 now [09:13] rc2 [09:13] oh then I need to upgrade :) [09:13] ktos, is it available for download ? [09:13] u5er51: current only [09:14] u5er51: before January 1st 2015 is my guess.. but I'm not sure as I'm not psychic :\ [09:14] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:15] lol [09:15] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: No route to host [09:16] what is better slackpkg or slaptget? [09:16] no no no, Slackware-13 will be released on December 21, 2012 when the devil comes to rule the world and when the devil declairs himself ruler Volkerding and Torvalds will kick the devils ass and send him running back to Redmond washington with his tail between his legs [09:17] ktos yw [09:17] 2012 is non-sense; there's still several decades based on scripture crypto'd info. [09:18] Pig_Pen: that's the best mayan profesy translation. you must be an expert :) [09:18] Quiznos: that did it, stty raw is nom nom nom for this operation.. thank you sir :) [09:18] yvw [09:18] the mayans say quetzalcoatl will come back and destroy the world [09:18] yeah especially unix time is not ending on 2012 ;) [09:18] i just know that from reading man2, man3 [09:19] Pig_Pen "common calendar" is off by about 33 years. [09:19] 0AD + 33 [09:19] Pig_Pen: no that's not truth actually ;) year of quetzalcoatl has been finished at november ;) [09:20] Quiznos: what does mean yq? [09:20] yq* [09:20] ah [09:20] yw [09:20] yeah, but remember what einsten said, "time is relative" and on more than one level too, what is the correct time for one calender/clock is wrong to another, time is an invention of man [09:20] "you're welcome" [09:20] v=very [09:20] ah :P [09:20] IOW, it's my pleasure to share what I have learned :) [09:21] ok, but what is better slackpkg or slaptget? :) [09:21] Pig_Pen onecup was a plageriser and thief of other's works [09:21] cmair (n=cmair@host124-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:21] neither is better. both are differnt [09:21] yup [09:21] yup to which? [09:22] ok [09:22] even christianity plagerized other religions [09:22] no no no [09:22] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:22] disciples who walk in the light dont steal. [09:22] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:23] ktos: Pat put slackpkg in slackpkg, and left slapt-get out. does that answer your question? [09:23] er, put slackpkg in slackware* [09:23] a good documentary is Religiosity Bill Maher [09:23] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [09:23] thrice`: yes that is best anwer. didn't know that [09:24] ok, don't we come inside [09:24] ok, don't we come inside religious issues* [09:24] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:24] fragmentation error, system halted. [09:24] DOH! [09:24] lol [09:25] quasar really? details! [09:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:25] btw why swaret has been created if slackpkg existed? [09:25] my brain didn't comprehend something because of the fragmentation so it stopped processing :) [09:26] i think swaret is pretty dead [09:26] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [09:26] thanks god [09:26] thrice`: I never can use it it was horrible [09:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left ##slackware. [09:26] thrice`: have you seen tukaani pkgtool? [09:26] a while back, sure [09:27] it won't work with the new package format [09:27] thrice`: I used it tukaani because didn't know about slackpkg [09:28] slackpkg is pretty complete :) It can search packages by file name, download / install, update, merge new configs [09:28] wow, didn't know that :) [09:28] hi [09:29] kornerr (n=kornerr@vir1a.toonel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Action: kornerr wants some docs about keeping slackware up-to-date [09:30] hi [09:31] unless tukaani is updated it will not work on 13.0+ [09:31] thrice`: so tukaani pkgtool and swaret have been created because of earlier versions of slackpkg wasn't complete, have it? [09:31] is this a support channel for slackware users? [09:31] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] haven't it* [09:31] nimrod: yes [09:31] cool [09:32] nimrod: but you need to know manual is your friend :) [09:32] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:32] yes, i know :) [09:32] kornerr: rsync(1) upgradepkg(8) slackpkg(8) [09:33] thanks [09:33] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.64.152) left ##slackware. [09:34] i'm new to slackware and i'm using ubuntu now, cause my soundcard wouldn't work in slackware... [09:34] heh [09:34] may be it's simply not enabled in the kernel? [09:35] nimrod alsa sound? [09:35] thrice`: so tukaani pkgtool and swaret have been created because of earlier versions of slackpkg wasn't complete, haven't it? [09:35] i tried alsaconf , but it doesn't find my card [09:35] info in dmesg? [09:35] nimrod: is it ISA or PCI ? [09:35] PCI [09:36] kornerr: perhaps it might possibly be more helpful if you actually tell us what kind of soundcard etc. [09:36] dmesg is showing that the card is there [09:36] lol, who still remember ISA XD I have one at old desktop with slack :) [09:36] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [09:36] ktos: those tools have been created because their creators thought they were needed [09:36] uhm kornerr ignore that ... nimrod ^^^ [09:36] albeit misguided as they were ;) [09:36] BP{k}: it's not me, it's nimrod :) [09:36] pprkut: you suggest they same as me didn't know about slackpkg? ;) [09:36] :D [09:37] kornerr: yeah, sorry about that, obviously I haven't had enough coffee yet. [09:37] the soundcard is a "soundblaster xfi extreme gamer" [09:38] or fxi* [09:38] ktos: would be one reason, but the possibilities are endless [09:38] :) [09:39] btw what is plural form of it? [09:39] stupid but never know [09:39] its? [09:40] nimrod: you'll need kernel 2.6.31 to get sound on that one [09:40] I don't think 'it' has a plural form. [09:40] uva (i=bno@118-160-160-104.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:41] hmm [09:41] nimrod: or a heavily patched alsa/kernel, so ubuntu [09:41] aha kernel 2.6.31. [09:41] BP{k}: it pl. = they [09:41] btw, anyone using slackware64 -current here? [09:41] Zordrak: ah. (note earlier comment about coffee) ;) [09:41] kornerr: yes. [09:42] what kernel does slackware 12.2 come with? [09:42] BP{k}: can it be multilib? [09:42] nimrod: 2.6.27.7, I think [09:42] Zordrak: I always thought they is only for persons that's why I asked :) [09:42] nimrod: 2.6.27.7 [09:42] ok.. thanks for the help!!. i would try to upgrade the kernel :) [09:42] nimrod: you will have to compile it yourself, because 2.6.31 isn't even released yet, neither will Slackware 13.0 ship with it [09:43] hmm [09:43] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [09:43] no wonder why i havent found help on google [09:44] kornerr: yes, fred kindly made some of the multilip stuff available ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ if you need it. [09:44] nimrod: xfi's have a long history of being incompatible with linux, you should have found something ;) [09:44] aha [09:45] i would try to by another card then [09:45] thanks for your time [09:45] as said, it should work fine with 2.6.31+ [09:45] oh god i just remembered how freaky big the casings were on pentium 2 processors [09:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:46] is it dificult to compile kernel 2.6.31? [09:46] nimrod: no more different than 2.6.30 :P [09:47] nimrod: ok, seriously, have you ever compiled a kernel? [09:47] no ...i tried once, but i failed [09:48] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [09:48] well, the first time is usually hard, but it's getting easier every time you do [09:49] ok, i see. Is it help to get from slackwarebook , for me to compile a new kernel? [09:50] sorry, i'm not english, my native language is norwegian. [09:50] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:50] no, it won't [09:50] the kernel itself has a lot of docs inside configuration tool [09:51] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [09:51] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. 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[09:57] and system now I have no sh [09:57] and now I have no sh* [09:57] ktos: ls -l /bin/sh [09:57] I can login in [09:58] I have no idea what happen with it [09:58] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] I have to reinstall system lol [09:59] I can to even login to repair it [10:00] you can't use a boot disk/disc to repair it? [10:00] ktos: boot to cd [10:00] the default shell should be /bin/bash for users [10:00] darn quasar beet me to it :P [10:00] good idea [10:00] Action: quasar r fast.. like quasars [10:01] I must get slax to boot from usb [10:01] quasar: I just woke up haha thats my excuse :P [10:01] because I have no cd [10:01] ktos: That works as well :) [10:02] but it's really stupid that slackpkg destroy my slack with one click :) [10:02] pff.. oldschool.. I boot by inserting my finger into a nifty neat drive I got on ebay.. my finger has a microchip under the skin.. the drive reads the microchip and boots the OS from it [10:02] hope there is some log of slackpkg to check what have been done [10:03] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] quasar: You have to insert your finger? I just have to be in proximidy. [10:04] I got mine before those were available :( [10:04] I'm sure they have an adaptor for you ;) [10:04] i have to stick my think in o start my pc :( [10:05] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [10:05] superGear: I had one like that.. but I divorced her [10:05] s/o/to [10:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] slackerbaby (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Action: lf4 note to self: Don't buy a computer from superGear, they are a bio-hazzard. [10:07] yay.. 28 more errors to fix and it compiles again :D [10:07] Action: slackerbaby o/ to slackers ... :) [10:07] greetings from northern Canada [10:08] greetings from east of the Canadian [10:08] :) [10:08] greetings from URN:ODI:2.16.840 [10:08] greetings from underground of canada [10:09] Action: slackerbaby :D [10:09] Action: slackerbaby btw i'm init[1] [10:09] a bunker? [10:09] slackerbaby, a metro? [10:09] hi.. I installed slack 12.2 but I cant find where the source is located. its not there in /usr/src and /usr/local/src. though I "star-red" the source-option during installation. [10:09] slackerbaby: why the nick change? [10:09] lf4: a temp change, just for fun, [10:10] ok :) [10:10] k [10:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:10] maxote: no,i was going along with the poem greetings from canada [10:10] Nick change: razec -> Razec [10:10] put yourself to the Sun, frozen man. [10:10] anyone guys.. [10:11] ga_bash: ? source of kernel ? [10:11] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-174-39-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] slackerbaby, yes [10:11] ga_bash: did you choose for a full install ? [10:12] yes [10:12] did you check for /usr/src/linix ? [10:12] linux [10:12] if you did a full install it's in /usr/src/ [10:12] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [10:13] ga_bash: you must have goffed [10:13] slackerbaby, there is no directory as /usr/src/linux [10:13] goofed* [10:13] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [10:14] ga_bash: what is the source of install , cd /dvd/ net ? [10:14] ga_bash: output of: "ls -la /var/log/packages/kernel-source*" [10:14] slackerbaby, cd [10:14] I broke kde, now when i startx i tries with kde, how to make it startx with fluxbox [10:14] I don't get where I can get slackware64 -current [10:14] .xinitrc [10:14] ga_bash: do as BP{k} has asked you to do [10:14] xwmconfig [10:14] x1user: fix kde ;P [10:14] x1user: xwmconfig(1) [10:14] i will tri [10:15] BP{k}, no such file or directory [10:15] edit .xinitrc [10:15] kornerr: any mirror. [10:15] ga_bash: you don't have the source [10:15] ga_bash: then you haven't done a full install. simple. [10:15] ga_bash: seem like you haven't installed the source [10:15] BP{k}, ls -la /var/log/packages/kernel* gives it [10:15] ga_bash: that is the kernel, not source [10:16] when i installed 12.2 yesterday with full install it never prompted me for the source cd's. Does that mean the kernel source was not installed? Maybe ga_bash is having the same issue. [10:16] slackerbaby, but I chose the source [10:16] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.111.240) joined ##slackware. [10:16] lf4 not needed [10:16] lf4: no. You are being confused. [10:16] cd#1 only for full install [10:16] cd1 doesn't have the source [10:16] ga_bash: ok, don't worry,put use the cd [10:16] s/put/ / [10:16] does the second cd has the source? [10:17] ga_bash: check it, in slackware/k/ [10:17] lf4: "the source cd's contain the sources that make the packages of the first three cd's), the kernel-source is a package that is part of the K/ series [10:17] BP{k}: Ahhh :) makes sense. Thanks [10:17] Action: slackerbaby lf4 is fan of *makes sense* [10:18] dvd has source of course [10:18] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] ga_bash: which CD's did you install? [10:18] BP{k}, only the first one [10:18] Action: lf4 is fan of slackerbaby :P [10:19] okibisan (i=1000@71-88-202-87.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:19] ga_bash: well DOH. You thus did *NOT* do a full install :P [10:19] ga_bash: then you lack the source [10:19] BP{k}: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (88% of Full) ;) [10:19] http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [10:19] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [10:19] The Moon will be Waxing Gibbous (99.999% of Full). (##slackware default Moon setting) [10:19] pprkut: ^^^^^ :P [10:19] is that what they call it these days? [10:19] heh [10:19] http://www.slackware.com/getslack [10:19] my cd-burner gets listed under /proc/scsi/scsi and dmesg says it's device /dev/sr0 however it's unusable [10:19] ga_bash: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php <-=- that will tell what is on what CD's .. a full install consist of *ALL* three cd's. [10:19] cdrecord -scanbus doesn't list it either [10:19] any ideas? [10:20] tooly (n=tooly@e178129116.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:20] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:20] you don't need disk 3 [10:20] kde is garbage [10:21] dakarn: a bit harsh [10:21] ga_bash: if you just want the source you can download it from direct http, mirror [10:22] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] dakarn: A pretty useles blanket statement and personal opinion. [10:22] hitest: just an opinion, sorry [10:23] In reality, I think other WMs are junk. [10:23] to get a working slack build with x server and window manager you only need disks 1 & 2 [10:23] I use KDE most of the time :) [10:23] allll a matter of personal preference [10:24] Nick change: slackerbaby -> init[1] [10:24] kde4 > dakarn [10:24] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [10:25] this is driving me crazy! [10:26] imo kde is like decorating your house for christmas. sure it's pretty at first -- but after a while you just want it gone [10:26] nothing like seeing a neighbor with cristmas decorations up and its july [10:27] August* [10:27] yeah [10:27] but i was not referring to the actual date [10:28] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Christmas isn't about decorations anyways [10:28] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [10:28] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [10:28] its about santa clause and spending lots of money in department stores [10:29] cmair82 (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:29] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) left irc: Client Quit [10:30] ^^ [10:31] Pig_Pen: probably not even about santa clause ;) [10:32] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] it's all about the winter solstice :) [10:33] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.77) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:33] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.77) joined ##slackware. [10:34] anonym5510 (i=1000@r2az200.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [10:34] you mean santa clause is not real? :( [10:34] hello. anybody know name of app to make videos of screen in slackware? [10:35] does anybody know why the hell slax doesnt see my hdd? [10:36] ktos tried ls /dev ? [10:36] yeah :] [10:36] pendrive from which I boot it is normally sda1 [10:36] but there is no flying hda1 [10:36] or aanything like this [10:36] no idea why [10:36] hdd works normlly [10:37] did this just happen this time you booted? [10:37] did you try to reboot and you got the same? [10:37] yes [10:37] no idea why, last time I used slax 2 years ago and it worked [10:37] ktos: did you look in /mnt ? [10:37] Pig_Pen: the Norse believed in her .. they called her Heartha though :) [10:37] yes [10:38] only sda1 (pen) and live (slax dir) [10:38] Hertha* [10:38] the Vikings have all the cool gods = Thor [10:38] hehe [10:38] I have to take off cdrom from other pc, god damn it :/ [10:39] Action: ktos is angry [10:39] a helmet with bull horns must be great for head-butting the enemy in the stomach [10:39] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:39] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:39] ktos let me get this. you booted via USB stick? [10:40] yes [10:40] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:40] ktos and you cannot see the computers hdd? [10:40] no, I don't see any hdd [10:41] I think I had a similar problem years ago when I installed Linux via usb stick [10:41] ktos have you tried looking at the howtos on google [10:41] ? [10:41] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:42] no howto will help, in dmesg my hdd should be listed, while it's not [10:42] ktos ide, sata, pata? [10:42] slax or slackware? [10:42] slax [10:42] normall pata [10:42] old-style ide? [10:42] yes [10:42] ok; chk if that's IN kernel [10:42] cant be module [10:43] actually you might be right [10:43] i am teh Quiznos [10:43] i ooze, im right ! :> [10:43] lol [10:43] sorry [10:43] its just a phun nick [10:43] slax is a nowadays distro [10:43] ok [10:44] Nemeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-29-140.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Nemeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-105-45.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:44] btw its nice hotplug at least works good in slack :) [10:44] ktos, slax is nowdays distro , no get support for it in the right channel [10:44] no = now [10:44] Nick change: Nemeaudroide -> Nemeau [10:44] ktos did you do the regular checks in /proc to see that everything looks okey? [10:45] cat /proc/... [10:45] ktos: did you do fdisk -l [10:46] anonym5510: not yet [10:46] Action: BP{k} checks if this is ##slax or ##slackware. [10:46] :P [10:46] BP leave if you dont like it [10:46] Action: anonym5510 points to the door [10:46] leave ? [10:46] slax is slack based [10:46] but ok ok [10:47] I will try to find modules [10:47] perhaps u should move to slax channel , anonym5510 [10:47] I am using slackware. But I have no bias against helping people out [10:47] anonym5510: why? Why should I offer slax support in ##slackware. Slax is only vaguely based on slackware these days. IF they want to exist they should offer decent support. [10:47] BP so dont. [10:48] Btw I am not going into a pissing contest. BP ignored. [10:48] pft [10:48] noone will give you slax help [10:48] ktos ok I found someone who had a similar problme but not with slax read this > http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44402&sid=5260aee381b51787b62155c7549b94e9 [10:49] fdisk -l gives you what? [10:49] anonym5510: yawn. [10:50] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.15.25) joined ##slackware. [10:50] we asked for a fdisk -l a long time ago [10:50] anonym5510: the problem with supporting slax in here is that people will get the idea that this is the slax channel.. and if that goes viral we'll have people in here for debian/*buntu/redhat/etc support.. I'm not telling you to stop, just think about your actions [10:50] dakarn ah [10:51] Action: anonym5510 puts everyone who writes a lecture about nothing on ignore [10:51] jeez whats wrong with people [10:51] slack seems to prefer hda over sda maybe that'll help ?;p [10:51] dakarn lol [10:51] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.166.82) joined ##slackware. [10:51] nice ignore :) [10:51] lol [10:51] lol [10:52] he didn't [10:52] I pinged him [10:52] empty threat [10:52] well , im with BP{k} "IF they want to exist they should offer decent support." [10:52] Action: BP{k} wonders if anonym5510 is Tomáa Matjí ek [10:52] i spent forever trying to mount sdb1 when my usb drive was read about sda. just helps to double check instead of blindly slinging commands without referencing anything :I [10:53] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] DeeeeP: Haha maybe anonym5510 got flax from the slax community and thats why their here :P [10:53] lf4 I am on slackware 12 [10:54] everything works for me with that cd [10:54] so no. i dont experiment with small derivatives [10:54] dont have time. work 12 h/day [10:54] thats what she said [10:54] anonym5510,Quiznos: thank you for help, it worked after modprobe pata modules :) [10:54] ktos yeah? great [10:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hurray ! another slax satified customer ! [10:55] anonym5510: are you czech? [10:55] slax ftl [10:55] Action: lf4 wonders how many people idle in here just watching :) [10:55] slax sucks [10:55] ktos I am russian. I am in czech for work [10:55] :) [10:55] ktos u? [10:55] lf4, me :) [10:55] poland but not reallady satified with that ;) [10:56] ktos I am going to poland for a project soon [10:56] really satisfied * [10:56] to loed? [10:56] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] to what? [10:56] i think the place is call oed [10:56] Hey all, is there any particular way one should mount a floppy disk? [10:56] loed [10:56] or something . dont have the papers here. might be wrong [10:56] armence_: mount device folder [10:56] armence_, floopy is /dev/fd0 [10:57] "mount? " [10:57] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:57] anonym5510: ah, Lodz [10:57] I didnt see you chars well [10:57] lodz. correct. [10:57] thrice`: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy [10:57] This is aweful [10:58] I got no greens or Yellows [10:58] dakarn: no way [10:58] OK, that's what I did and I am getting: "mount : /dev/fd0 can't read superblock" [10:58] my monitor is shot :| [10:58] ktos i am also gonna visit the jewish areas in poland when i am there [10:58] thrice`: way! [10:58] morning peeps [10:58] anonym5510: never was there but it can be nice [10:58] agentc0re1: morning and welcome to #slax. [10:58] I am atheist :P [10:58] ._____. [10:59] anonym5510: don't be confused with stupid poeple in poland [10:59] ktos: who cares! [10:59] BP{k}: Shit, i hate it when i join random channels when drunk. :P [10:59] armence_ throw away that floppy, or make sunglasses from it then :) [10:59] ktos lol dont worry. I dont take much that comes from stupid people personal [10:59] :P [10:59] anonym5510: that is catholic and strange country :) [10:59] czech republic? [10:59] or poland [10:59] BP{k}: Kind of like waking up to text messages you sent from the night before.... Those don't always end up going over very well. [10:59] hmm it must be hard for anonym5510 to listen to himself. [11:00] anonym5510: poland [11:00] cech is cool because of non religous [11:00] ktos czech also. we got these huge churches everywhere [11:00] but the czechs are total not religious [11:00] agentc0re1: hehe, stop drinking that moonshine ;) [11:00] agris: I tried a couple of disks and it's still failing [11:00] armence_: modprobe floppy && mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy [11:00] yeah and that is beauty in czech :) [11:00] ktos come to czech [11:01] :] [11:01] Nick change: agentc0re1 -> agentc0re [11:01] i know someone who works for red hat in breno [11:01] dakarn: FATAL: Module Floppy not found [11:01] dakarn, that's a strange module [11:01] I want to move to London, its cool place [11:01] he is from USA [11:01] agentc0re1: http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/ <-- like that? ;) [11:01] ktos nha i am not interested in islamic countries [11:01] :P [11:02] BP{k}: Exactly like that site! lol. Just glad it wasn't known to me or my friends back then. [11:02] islamic republic of UK [11:02] anonym5510: hehe [11:02] UK is islamic? [11:02] BP{k}: Or there'd be a lot more 801's than there are now. [11:02] ktos :D [11:02] I didnt noticed it either ;) [11:02] and what's wrong with Islamic ppl? [11:02] superGear: please note that anonym5510 seems to be wearing his ass for a hat. [11:03] supergear absolutely nothing. you should move in with them if economic stagnation is you're thing. [11:03] me? nope not for me [11:03] i go forward [11:03] :) [11:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:03] we russians just kill the trash [11:04] anonym5510: so how come you haven't commited suicide then? [11:04] superGear++ :D [11:04] there are no muslims here [11:04] but when they come it is either suicide or move [11:04] muslims are not trash [11:04] they wont live on my taxes [11:04] that just stupid but anyways [11:04] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:05] s/that/that's [11:05] armence_: does mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy give you an error as root? [11:05] ktos btw you know app in slack to make video capture? [11:05] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:05] ktos video capture of screen [11:05] * [11:05] google [11:06] dakarn: Let me check [11:06] google knows everything! [11:06] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:06] anonym5510: no idea, I prefer windows ;) [11:06] dakarn: Yeap, same error [11:06] windows..... [11:07] slack is for server in my case ;) [11:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Success [11:07] why do you prefer windows? [11:07] ktos yeah I am thinking about dumping gnu/linux for windows as well. just tired of all the pompus a holes [11:07] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=screen+capture+video+linux [11:07] ktos said a bad word! [11:07] armence_: i have no idea then [11:07] dakarn: because I like it :) [11:07] dakarn: Could that be the result of the fds not being formated? [11:07] ktos but windows vista was terrible as ME to be honest [11:08] Vista isn't as bad as Me [11:08] armence_: is there a filesystem on the floppy? [11:08] anonym5510: I use winxp and I am very pleased [11:08] it's Me not ME ;P [11:08] anonym5510: if you're going to try to insult us, at least spell it correctly.. it's pompOus [11:08] but its true, vista works good if you have good computer :) [11:08] dakarn: No... [11:08] ktos i use slackware and opensolaris. but i am tired of it. I dont care anymore if you know what i mean [11:08] xp > 98 > 7 > vista > 95 > ME [11:08] dakarn: I guess I n00bed it right? [11:09] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Zordrak: wrong it's 7 > XP > 2K > Vista > 98SE > 98 > Me [11:09] wait i forgot 95 [11:09] Action: quasar would put 98SE > Vista [11:09] anonym5510: I was tired of wasting time during compiling and searching sulutions on slackware for normal work on laptop etc. Suse is horrible so I choosen windows :) [11:09] ktos it is interesting to note that most hack apps are in windows... if you exclude the ICBM and exploit libraries [11:10] Zordrak: wrong it's 7 > XP > 2K > Vista > 98SE > 98 > 95 > 3.x > 2.x > 1.x > Me [11:10] superGear: moron. [11:10] armence_: if it's a blank disk, try cfdisk /dev/fd0 and load ext3 on it [11:10] armence_: then see if you can mount it [11:10] ktos oh yeah linux is horrible for laptops. i am on acer now with slackware and it took me weeks to get the god damn wifi to work [11:10] jeezus christ [11:10] InspectorWho (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) joined ##slackware. [11:10] yeah [11:10] same problem [11:10] anonym5510: then you suck [11:10] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-188-170.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:11] 3 years ago 1920x1200 was nearly impossible in linux [11:11] thrice well not you [11:11] dakarn: OK [11:11] anonym5510: then go use Windows 2008 R2 for your server and leave the linux world [11:11] everything is possible on linux but I don't like waste time! [11:11] everything works out of the box on my laptop [11:11] linux is nice for servers [11:11] ktos yupp i have done *amazing stuff on gnulinux [11:11] i just dont want to waste time [11:12] sick off it [11:12] hehe [11:12] seriously, you guys are fucking annoying. just leave [11:12] don't complain if you use a distro that requires you to manually configure everything -- that you have to manually configure everything [11:12] ktos :)) [11:12] lol @ thrice` [11:12] windows have .NET and VS which I like very much [11:12] kick the trolls [11:12] how about yall go join ##windows [11:12] ktos well you could always run httpd in windows [11:12] I prefer on slack ;) [11:12] but then again who cares right? [11:13] if you are a server just dont use it for anything else [11:13] thrice`: its weekend trolltime. ignore them. [11:13] not trolling [11:13] full moon syndrome too ;) [11:13] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:13] I use slackware since 4 ;) [11:13] just being honest. it took weeks to get the god damn wifi to work in linux on laptops [11:14] had to find drivers for 4 obscure devices [11:14] it was worse then torture [11:14] then, again, you suck. mine works out of the box [11:14] I agree with anonym5510 [11:14] anonym5510: your fault for not looking harder [11:14] thrice`: you just have lucky hardware thats all [11:14] anonym5510: which wifi card? [11:14] shouldn't have taken weeks [11:14] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:14] jeez you guys just are not that intelligent are you [11:14] ? [11:14] anonym5510: not trolling yet every other line that you type is "I'm sick of it" or trying to insult us.. [11:14] superGear: it get weaks when its new!!!!!!!!! [11:14] anonym5510: which wifi card is it? [11:15] quasar are you the slackware distro or what? [11:15] after few month everything is already done [11:15] intelligent enough to get wifi work in minutes not weeks :P [11:15] quasar do you take personal offence when someone says anything negative about slackware? [11:15] lol you moron [11:15] anonym5510: well, you've resorted to name calling twice now.. make that 3 times [11:15] its just a package of crap ware [11:15] lol [11:15] jesus [11:15] ktos: not lucky - just looked for proper hardware [11:15] yes [11:15] thats it [11:15] after you said you were going to ignore me.. you haven't.. but you're not trolling [11:16] anonym5510: which wireless card? [11:16] ktos god it seems these men are in love or that slackware is their female [11:16] lol [11:16] if you don't then waste time [11:16] btw when will linux take over on the desktop < LOL [11:16] im seeing the future ! something like a ban ! [11:16] anonym5510: you're in a slackware help chan. WTF do you expect? [11:16] I also love slackware but I tried it on new hardware and know it wate time [11:16] anonym5510: so far, all I've seen is troll comments. I've seen windows with the same problem, so why aren't you dumping on windows then? [11:17] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [11:17] are you insaine? i never spent hour after hour to get a device working in xp when i used it [11:17] i mean linux is good when you get it to work [11:17] but it is a pain in the ass sometimes [11:17] I've spent more than that just in bluescreens after plugging in a device in XP :) [11:17] Know your hardware [11:18] if you don't then waste time << that was for alisonken1home [11:18] I have seen xp installs that took about the same amount of time. as superGear says - check hardware. MS has the same issue with some hardware [11:18] sorry that linux requires competency when using. unlike a rubber ball [11:18] btw i am on Acer Aspire 5735z [11:18] go play with your rubber ball [11:18] no if you have drivers from producer [11:18] suse sucks [11:18] ktos these idiots have never even tried to put gnu/hell on a laptop [11:18] just ignore them [11:19] suse is the biggest filth ever [11:19] lol [11:19] we had to ditch it at work [11:19] yes nobody in here has put linux on their laptops [11:19] I"ve been running slackware on my laptop for years. didn't take weeks to get the hardware to work, either [11:19] we're the pompus (sic) a holes [11:19] pompous [11:19] http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+5735z < here is my laptop [11:19] ppl always forget the o in pompous [11:20] hehe [11:20] dakarn: hence the (sic) [11:20] supergear are you like some sort of teacher? because I dont care [11:20] and yes, it was new when I first put slackware on it. ex: "wife: Did your laptop come with XP?" me: "Yes" wife: "Can I see it?" me: "Too late" [11:20] quasar: i know i'm saying either they're trolls or retarded [11:20] i mean what type of person sits with a speech checker in a irc room [11:20] Action: BP{k} just put slackware64 on his acer aspire 1520. Took me all of .. hmm 2 days for all to be working .. (total, not actual working time) [11:20] dakarn: or both! ;) [11:20] :D [11:20] speech? [11:20] anonym5510: we had just bad hardware for linux [11:20] i don't hear anyone talking ;P [11:21] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] ktos yeah I know I should have checked before. but hey life does not always work that way [11:21] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] the only thing that pisses me off more than misspelling words is using an apostrophe to pluralise an acronym [11:21] anonym5510: I'd consider it more of a spell check than a speech check [11:21] hdhd [11:21] hehe* [11:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:21] s/an acronym/anything [11:21] I got laptop from comapny [11:21] so it wasnt checked for linux [11:22] ktos well I called the company I bought this laptop from and they are sending me windows vista and xp now [11:22] on cds* [11:22] hehe [11:22] to hell with linux and quasar [11:22] always check your hardware before you install linux or any OS [11:22] does that mean you're leaving? [11:22] quasar nope [11:22] anonym5510: why not just wait for Windows 7 [11:22] i am still on slackware [11:22] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] supergear well ill do winxp besides slackware [11:23] so i wont do vista [11:23] i know vista sucks [11:23] superGear w7 is out already, actually already installed too [11:23] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-85-28.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [11:23] agris yeah? [11:23] ill put an order for that one to then [11:23] agris: retail/legal wise [11:23] anonym5510 yep.. available for download from ms site [11:23] it's not "out" .. it's beta [11:23] nope [11:23] agris but you must have a vista licence or whwat [11:23] ? [11:23] real one [11:23] RTM is out [11:23] really? [11:23] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:24] quasar holy shit. go and download it [11:24] anonym5510 i've got corp license [11:24] agris aha me to [11:24] i have two vista licenses [11:24] i buy laptops all the time [11:24] :P [11:24] so, went to eopen.microsoft.com and downloaded it there [11:24] hm.. they never sent me an email other than my beta key lol [11:24] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1BlakAsa4Q Windows XP theme song [11:25] :D [11:25] open.microsoft.com ...... [11:25] TIME TO DERAIL this fail train [11:25] why are there 1 million distributions? [11:25] http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1496583/windows-quietly-released-fans [11:26] anonym5510: cause anyone can make a distro [11:26] it's OPEN not closed [11:26] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-108-93-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [11:26] supergear Yeah but it sucks [11:26] debian.slackware should just merge [11:26] If Windows was Open like linux there would be 100000 different Windows [11:27] debian.. argh... lol [11:27] argis lol [11:27] mwnn (n=user@59.96.56.118) joined ##slackware. [11:27] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] wouldnt that be wonderful? to have deb in slackware [11:27] debian and slackware don't mix very well - kinda like gas and water [11:27] why are there 100000 different cars. everyone should drive a honda civic /s [11:27] If slackware merged with Debian I'd have find a new distro [11:27] nah - hummer [11:27] Action: quasar agrees with superGear [11:27] anonym5510: it's called slapt-get [11:27] dakarn: I don't think anonym5510 is used to that advanced cars, He problaby thinks a lada is as good as it gets. [11:28] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:28] anonym5510: then go use Debian [11:28] lada niva number #1 in soviet russia [11:28] superGear debian is better then slackware [11:28] hh [11:28] anonym5510: even better, go use Ubuntu [11:28] ubuntu is also better then slackware [11:28] anonym5510, why is better [11:28] got more people using it [11:28] anonym5510: so go use it [11:28] then go use them and go troll them [11:29] two different goals in those 2 distros [11:29] anonym5510: ms has disproven the myth that popular is better [11:29] microsoft owns the IT world and you know it [11:29] anonym5510: as I said ..... [11:29] okibisan (i=1000@71-88-202-87.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:29] even after having used gnu/linux for years I can tell linux wont amount to shit [11:29] yes yes MS rules the world [11:29] who cares [11:29] obvious trollin now [11:29] dakarn: Ya think? ;) [11:30] dakarn L:D [11:30] rworkman: wake up :P [11:30] trolls go home [11:30] anonym5510, and another reason besides that [11:30] dakarn yes the L stands for loser... [11:30] that's a cheap reason [11:30] Deeeep Slackware looks to much like a terminal [11:30] anonym5510: You're right it wont amount to shit because only almost every webserver uses sometime of linux.. [11:30] another reason [11:31] lol [11:31] :) [11:31] anonym5510: somewhere a village is missing it's idiot. maybe you sould get back to work [11:31] grazymax (n=grazymax@host158-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:31] i can't tell if he's trolling too hard or just an attention whore [11:31] sounds like more than one village [11:31] agentc0re: and router [11:31] dakarn: Same thing in my book. [11:31] Action: thrice` suggests everyone simply quite responding [11:31] amen [11:32] thrice`: s/quite/quit :D [11:32] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [11:32] so are you guys 'hackers' ? [11:32] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-108-93-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [11:32] rofl [11:32] yes, all slackware users are hackers [11:32] D: [11:32] Lets attack him guys [11:33] anonym5510: the fact Linux has the low-end router market, the server market and some of the embedded appliance market says it's amounted to more than Windows :P [11:33] if you define hackers as the original meaning and not the media bastardization of the meaning, yes [11:33] so can i add a line in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules to igonre a usb id when a device has 2 ids? [11:33] alisonken1home: obviously he means crackers [11:33] anonym5510: that reminds me, I need to get that film again :P [11:33] more than "some' of the embedded market. even Wind River is doing linux now [11:33] NthDegree seems like a whole lot of hoo haa haa to learn linux just to have a 'router' [11:33] Nasa uses linux too :D [11:33] anonym5510: erm... my NetGear DG834 is Linux-based and I just plugged it in xD [11:33] anonym5510: nothing wrong with learning [11:34] quasar yeah and we can see how great their linux shuttle is working [11:34] lol [11:34] endian firewall ftw [11:34] quasar: NASA still uses Windows 3.1 for some operations, no big gain there XD [11:34] tho most routers come with linux [11:34] Untangle firewall FTW :) [11:34] I just buy a hardware router for 20 bux guys [11:34] done. [11:34] :D [11:34] and what OS runs that hardware router? [11:34] anonym5510: so are you never going to learn Midori then? Windows is being obsoleted by [codename] Midori :P [11:34] supergear windows vista [11:35] NthDegree: hm.. didn't know that, only heard of Linux concerning Nasa [11:35] sounds like a crap router than :P [11:35] why don't they use embedded windows on solid state electronics? [11:35] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] supergear it has nice graphics in localhost [11:35] dakarn: because it's a waste of money? [11:35] box (n=ab_cd@58.33.157.247) joined ##slackware. [11:35] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] 20$ for hw and 100$ for ms vista for routers :D [11:35] windows ce. [11:35] does a router need nice graphics? [11:35] supergear ofcourse. without design whats the point? [11:36] router needs web interface [11:36] nah it doesn't [11:36] when you do http://localhost/ you get really nice graphics [11:36] and design [11:36] anonym5510: you do realise that isn't anything to do with the OS right? [11:36] anonym5510: obviously you have the wrong definition of graphics - why would I want to put a vga console on a router? [11:36] router need /etc/pf.conf and pfctl :) [11:36] please , dont discuss graphics as an OS valid point , or ill puke [11:36] don't confuse GUI with web [11:36] this guy is good [11:36] DeeeeP: I modelled my desktop on the Windows 7 look - using KDE 3.5.x :P [11:36] nice graphics and design makes the smoothness of a OS [11:36] lame* [11:37] dakarn: karaoke good? [11:37] this is why linux sucks [11:37] everybody's falling for it too [11:37] NthDegree, still KDE [11:37] alisonken1home: successful troll is successful [11:37] kde4 looks good [11:37] ananke: Not everyone, just most. :P [11:37] anonym5510: erm.. sorry but Linux has had better graphical theming than Windows for years [11:37] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [11:37] nthdegree nope it has not [11:37] anonym5510: nice trolling, you must be a pro [11:37] dakarn: like I said - karaoke good :) [11:37] anonym5510, have u seen compiz or alike ? [11:38] compiz is worthless [11:38] and I can say that confidently even knowing that Xorg is a steaming pile [11:38] boring and useless [11:38] is there recovery mode in slackware? [11:38] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Damn, I have a lot of opened ports, can anyone help me out pls? [11:38] i dont need my GUI to look like a box [11:38] my xorg is broken [11:38] anonym5510 you're like clown. want to laugh on you every time you write [11:38] x1user : nope [11:38] I need help [11:38] anonym5510: it has more features than Aero, more plugins [11:38] something fuc*ed up,now doesnot accept any user [11:38] anonym5510 strikes me as a broken troll.. first he tells us that he uses Windows Vista as a router... [11:38] x1user: I know a way to bust into it :P [11:38] I think that most of you guys are wrong [11:38] x1user: boot the CD and login as root [11:38] LMAO!! http://noobfarm.org/?id=1640 that totally goes with his last one, http://noobfarm.org/?id=1624 [11:38] marchhare: perhaps a better formulated question? [11:38] but hey thats just life [11:38] ask for login, i enter root and freezes dont even ask for pass [11:39] x1user: use a slackware CD to login [11:39] x1user : has it ever worked? [11:39] then mount all the partitions into /mnt [11:39] yes it was fully working [11:39] then chroot into it [11:39] BP{k}: well it hangs on a blank screen when i startx [11:39] x1user : what changed? [11:39] i was trying to upgrade with slackpkg [11:39] fail [11:39] idd [11:39] x1user : what did you upgrade? [11:39] upgrade-all [11:39] probably 12 to current [11:39] ananke: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1499 :D [11:39] BP{k}: and it when I startkde It says ksmserver: cannot connect to server [11:40] ouch. to what, -current? [11:40] and this changed my kernel [11:40] yes current [11:40] heh [11:40] You forgot to run lilo didn't you? [11:40] run it [11:40] yeah.. if the kernel changes you have to reinstall lilo [11:40] all these problems you are talking about now you would not have in windows [11:40] Dominian: he ran lilo or he wouldn't have gotten to login [11:40] Nick change: InspectorWho -> InspectorCluseau [11:40] by doing: lilo -v [11:40] agentc0re|work, :) [11:40] i will see if i can do soemthing [11:40] superGear: oh yeah [11:40] superGear: missed that part [11:40] and the logo of tux is changed [11:40] anyway I have to go. everyone take care. It was interesting. [11:40] anonym5510 : are you done now? at this point you're interfering. [11:41] mates, i got akonadi server not registered at dbus error when booting(under both root and normal user), how to solve that? google didn't tell me, btw. [11:41] No, the problems will be there, they'd be different ones. [11:41] x1user: the "logo" is controlled by the kernel [11:41] and it is not a penguin but a animal with long tail and mask !>!? wtf [11:41] ananke yes I am done [11:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) left irc: [11:41] x1user: yes, we know. that's part for the core for the 2.6.29.x series. [11:41] ananke are you giving me orders? [11:41] yes that kernel [11:41] anonym5510 : yes. leave. [11:41] wtf is that animal [11:41] it goes back to tux on 2.6.30 [11:41] ananke um in that case i'll stay [11:41] gygy [11:41] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [11:41] lets pray to god, i think the setup just run lilo, not lilo -v [11:41] x1user: it's Tuz, a disguised Tasmanian Devil. [11:41] x1user: it's a Tasmanian devil. He'll eat you if you don't obey. [11:42] ananke: nice going [11:42] LOL xD [11:42] ha [11:42] superGear : trolls will be trolls [11:42] again I am not a troll [11:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) joined ##slackware. [11:42] yes you are [11:42] yes you are [11:42] agreed [11:42] have you even read the def. of a troll? [11:42] anonym5510: you do realise there's distros that provide an identical GUI to XP and/or Vista right? :P [11:42] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-133.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:42] you are a troll [11:42] now that we've estabilished it's a troll, let's focus on x1user's problem [11:42] tell me the def. of a troll and dont google [11:42] you look like a troll [11:42] do it fast [11:43] x1user: http://lwn.net/Articles/323966/ [11:43] anonym5510: you [11:43] !ops [11:43] !ops [11:43] !ops [11:43] Def : anonym5510 [11:43] we need that here [11:43] we need ops in general [11:43] ananke: yeah we sure do [11:43] ananke is a troll [11:43] 1 sec [11:43] thrice` : yep. not enough coverage [11:43] ananke stop that. cant you see that you are dissrupting this room? [11:43] why? [11:44] i am looking for the dvd and all i found is old windows disks lol [11:44] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] So i have two partitions that are setup to be a root partition. One runes slamd64(which is what i run now) and then the other is slack12.2 which i haven't booted to in a while. If i wanted to install slackware64 on that other root partition i should just be able to chroot it to do so, right? [11:44] cmair (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Trolls are attention seekers. Their mission is to derail the conversation and community you have built up in your channel and have everyone focus solely on them. [11:45] agentc0re: a little more involved than that - you may want to go into the slackware64 installer first [11:45] and how did I do that? [11:45] agentc0re kompile two kernels [11:45] sounds like anonym5510 [11:45] what did I say that did that? [11:45] I am sorry but you are wrong [11:45] dont be filled with prestiege like that [11:45] superGear: ME ME ME ME :D [11:45] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [11:45] alisonken1home: Ya, i would do that. [11:46] from the boot cd, it doesnot found lilo [11:46] anonym5510: dunno - you come into a slackware suppport channel, spout about ms being better than linux in general and slackware in particular - and proceed to dump on slackware with no specifics. [11:46] sounds like it to me. [11:46] OPS! rworkman, alienBOB, phrag, nachox, stx, Alan_Hicks. We need your help! [11:46] alisonken1home i only said it took weeks to fix the wifi drivers [11:46] how was that a lie [11:46] ? [11:46] then go back and reread your comments [11:46] x1uster do you think I am a troll [11:46] ? [11:47] yes [11:47] and I didn't say it was a lie - just your comments [11:47] ban the infedel [11:47] x1uster what did I say that was troll like behaviour [11:47] ? [11:47] ignore anonym5510 [11:47] slackware or die [11:47] anonym5510: you forgot about the stupid part and such [11:47] anyway - time to go [11:47] darnt it lol for got the / [11:47] Action: anonym5510 staying [11:47] alisonken1home: Just ignore him. The more we feed into him, the more he's going to want to stay. [11:47] tooly (n=tooly@e178129116.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [11:47] agentc0re: have to leave, but may be able to help later [11:47] starve the troll [11:47] supergear anyway I think you're def. of a troll and what I said do not match [11:47] lilo not found from the cd boot, what should i do [11:47] agentc0re: I enjoy it though :| [11:47] yeah we shouldn't feed the Troll [11:48] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:48] NthDegree: no one else does. [11:48] agreed [11:48] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:48] ananke you cannot feed me given that fact that I am not a troll [11:48] haa haa [11:48] :) [11:48] agentc0re: yeah, I know... but it's so addictive [11:48] XD [11:48] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:48] where is lilo on the dvd ? [11:48] Flame flame_me!! [11:48] x1user : the package? [11:48] is anyone familiar with Arcanum (Troika)? [11:49] x1user you can find lilo in /dev i think [11:49] honestly when i see idiocracy like this i just can't help by think of it being jeev... [11:49] lol [11:49] Wrong again. [11:49] when you install form dvd it installs lilo at last where is it [11:49] jeev isn't as bad [11:49] superGear [11:49] x1user, didn't you wanted to boot from dvd, chroot to your existing install, and only then lilo? [11:49] agentc0re|work, wishful thinking - we could get both of them at the same time [11:49] agentc0re: I think of it as weev (Encyclopaedia Dramatica ftw!) [11:49] :P [11:49] flame_me [11:49] agris: explain pls [11:49] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left ##slackware. [11:49] superGear: you know he did this kind of shit when he first came in here. [11:49] ok, so [11:49] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [11:50] doh [11:50] stupid keyboard! [11:50] agris: how to "enter" into my existing install [11:50] x1user : lilo the binary? installer runs it from the /mnt installation chroot [11:50] chroot /dev/sdX [11:50] I want to run this win32 game but WINE can't handle it well enough... what are my other alternatives? [11:50] anyway guys I have important stuff to do so I will probably have to depart at this point. thanks yet again for all the non help to my questions and all the pompOUS behaviour.!! [11:50] is there some sort of vm I can use? [11:50] bye anonym5510 [11:50] =] [11:50] ananke: how tomake the chroot thing [11:50] x1user : mount your root filesystem, and chroot into it. if you have any other filesystems, such as /boot, or /usr, you should mount them too [11:50] x1user: reboot and read the boot screen it gives you before you press enter [11:50] wow he actually came in here asking for help? [11:50] weird. [11:51] Wish me luck people... I'm about to set the new email server loose. This is the point of no return, and the most important moment of my career to date... [11:51] agentcore well this is a support room no? [11:51] x1user : say your root filesystem is on /dev/sda1. you mount it: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, then you chroot into it: chroot /mnt [11:51] Zordrak: may the force be with you! ;) [11:51] Zordrak: DO IT! [11:51] lol [11:51] starve the troll [11:51] don't address the troll [11:51] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.250.185) joined ##slackware. [11:51] yes 'may the force' be with you [11:51] Starve ananke! [11:51] j/k [11:51] ananke: will it make it like i am in my current install, i mean to be able to lilo -v [11:51] Action: lf4 sings: "Feed the Troll, tuppence a byte, Tuppence, tuppence, tuppence a byte" [11:51] hello [11:51] ananke: i'm hungry for troll :( [11:52] superGear : my grill is getting ready, bbq chicken :) [11:52] ananke: woo [11:52] x1user : yes [11:52] ananke: gas grill or charcoal? [11:52] NthDegree co'mon you know you want it. stick you're teath into my meat [11:52] :D [11:52] gay [11:52] Dominian : gas, unfortunately. but with plenty of baked in flavor, and some wood chips thrown in [11:52] perfect [11:52] why he is not banned [11:52] ananke: Those Charbroil Red grills... are awesome [11:52] x1user : ohh, i would forget. you may want to run 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev' before you chroot [11:52] Ops are away/asleep [11:52] speaking of gay did you guys see the new sasha baron cohen movie [11:53] OPS! rworkman, alienBOB, phrag, nachox, stx, Alan_Hicks. We need your help! [11:53] ? [11:53] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Action: agentc0re slaps forehead [11:53] Zordrak: is the e-mail server live yet? [11:53] it seems that in one interview between sasha and a terrorist the terrorist has a computer in the background running slackware [11:53] I need food brb [11:53] NthDegree: just /ignore anonym5510 :) it will go away soon if none of us can see the messages. [11:53] hitest: as soon as i epon the firewall and flush the backup mx... [11:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXh4EuJa2TU help! [11:53] Zordrak: did you remember to add a reverse entry for the mailservers dns record? [11:54] ananke: wrong fs type [11:54] anonym5510: and you said you're not a troll [11:54] Pig_Pen: lol [11:54] supergear because I am not [11:54] x1user : what command produced that? [11:54] agentc0re: already existed.. not the same as the fwd dns unfortunately as its NATed [11:54] Zordrak: ah. [11:54] Haha Pig_Pen :) [11:54] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev [11:54] why would I agree and say 'yes i am a troll' if I am not [11:54] ? [11:54] makes no sense [11:55] x1user : hmm, odd as hell. unless there is no support for bind [11:55] what if i skip this part [11:55] Zordrak: I hate it when people that i legitimately e-mail but refuse to add a reverse entry. I block that stuff as part of my spam filtering. [11:56] I'm a troll? [11:56] x1user : you may not have entries in /mnt/dev for lilo to work with [11:56] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-170.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:56] flame_me well thats the romour [11:56] ok... im tailing maillog, syslog, messages and all of mailman's logs.. i have mailgraph and queuegraph (rrd) up in a browser as well as pflogsumm....... [11:56] are you? [11:56] i think it's time [11:56] flame_me: not that we know of [11:56] ananke: it runed now see what will happen [11:56] no [11:56] I'm not a troll [11:56] supergear < fits the description of a troll [11:57] flame_me: you're not a anonym5510 (troll) [11:57] x1user : what were you trying to fix anyway? [11:57] bbl [11:57] Should my HDD be making this sound? lol a high pitch spinning :P [11:57] know what grinds my super gears? people who call me a troll for no apparent reason [11:57] ananke: something failed after upgrade, i cant login [11:57] lf4 that is normal when using gnu/linux [11:57] Action: Zordrak clicks "OK" [11:57] flame_me: nobody called you a troll [11:57] supergear I did [11:58] i just said flame flame_me cause of your nick :P [11:58] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.15.25) left irc: "Leaving" [11:58] ananke: fuck the same i will try with older kernel [11:58] 7 people have left since I came here, why? [11:58] flame_me: Just a joke :) You're not acting like a troll. [11:58] anonym5510: cause they hate you [11:58] net - 7 people [11:58] why??? [11:59] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Connection timed out [11:59] was it something I said or did? [11:59] supergear was it [11:59] ? [11:59] lol superGear what is the troll saying? [11:59] maybe they had to go do something [11:59] anyway, what other alternatives are there to running a win32 app under WINE? [11:59] Action: lf4 un-ignores anonym5510 [11:59] g, why you just don't go away at last please, anonym5510? [11:59] anonym5510: have you tried CentOS before? :P [11:59] anonym5510: Yes, this is a support channel. Did you have a problem that you needed help with or did you come here to see how many people you could aggravate? [11:59] flame_me: use a VM [11:59] flame_me: You could use a virtual machine. [11:59] lf4 I said that net 7 people have left since I came here [12:00] is dbus server needed it I don't have kde or gnome? [12:00] where would I start xserver? [12:00] and I am asking if it was something I did??? [12:00] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [12:00] lately, i have been having problems with my computer where it just freezes for a second and then restarts, but on restarting it beeps thrice and I do not get a display. I have to leave it switched off for about 2 hours and then it starts again. [12:00] which one, lf4? [12:00] ktos: yes, xorg needs it (among other things) [12:00] Of course, the number of people who arrived wasn't mentioned. [12:00] flame_me: I use virtualbox [12:00] seems to do the trick [12:00] my xserver is not running, how can I start it [12:00] vmware, qemu, vmware [12:00] startx [12:00] lol qemu sucks [12:00] thrice`: if I dont use x at all? :) [12:00] The motherboard manual says that the 3 beeps are issued in case of ram failures, but memtest does not report any [12:00] akshat isn't that hardware problem, i.e., temp or smthng [12:01] akshat: run memtest for 2-3 days [12:01] you have to install tiny xp to get that peice of shit working [12:01] qemu [12:01] what's the difference between vmware and the 3rd vmware, superGear? [12:01] akshat: I've found that higher quality ram won't fail until the 48hr or later mark. [12:01] i thought so too, but i got the sensors info and it was well within range [12:01] flame_me: err virtualbox, vmware, qemu [12:01] flame_me: lol I was wondering the same thing. [12:01] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [12:01] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:01] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.111.240) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] thrice`: if I dont use x at all do I need it ? :) [12:02] the cpu temp was about 60 [12:02] 60C ? [12:02] nice, I have a lot of alternatives.. but the app I want to run is Arcanum (a buggy rpg by troika by hardly runs on Windows, let alone WINE) [12:02] ok guys I am reading this to try to understand the concepts of trolling [12:02] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-188-170.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [12:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Troll_(Internet) [12:02] even the chipset and memory controller temps were within range [12:02] and I dont think I fit the image [12:02] jesus [12:02] christ superstar [12:02] stop this OS wars [12:02] considering that, which one of the following do you suggest? virtualbox, vmware or qemu? [12:02] ktos can you believe it that these idiots called me a troll [12:02] ? [12:02] anonym5510: you think wrong anyways goto bed [12:02] eviljames: I have done that but no errors [12:02] superGear: can you explain with few words if qemu does the sme lake vmware [12:03] all I said was that qemu sucks because you have to install tinyxp in it [12:03] anonym5510: I believe it. [12:03] i don't use qemu [12:03] I have checked syslogs but i find nothing [12:03] anonym5510: just ingore that [12:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:03] u need tinyxp for qemu ? [12:03] supergear you use qemu. you have no skills. you are lame. [12:03] anonym5510: what virtualization software have you written that is better than qemu? [12:03] it goes nowhere [12:03] Qemu is the crap dejour of the virtualization world [12:03] so, none. [12:03] [10:04] i don't use qemu [10:04] supergear you use qemu. you have no skills. you are lame. [12:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [12:03] I don't think a hard drive failure will cause a display problem on reboot... I will atleast get a display [12:03] you're dumb anonym5510 :P [12:03] SOMEBODY STOP THIS MADMAN [12:04] they'll die off soon enough, DeeeeP.. [12:04] anonym5510: it's not a virtualisation app, that's why [12:04] there we go with the inflamatory comments. me being a madman. [12:04] It's an emulator with virtualisation extensions [12:04] why dont you attack the arguments instead of the caracter [12:04] ? [12:04] DeeeeP: lol they will get bored soon enough. [12:04] where you born in a ghetto [12:04] ? [12:04] anonym5510: I attacked your argument, you failed to respond. [12:04] is that it [12:04] lol [12:04] so it has to be a mobo or ram problem.. right? [12:05] ktos .___________. [12:05] box (n=ab_cd@58.33.157.247) left ##slackware. [12:05] akshat: Likely that the mobo is faulty then, if 2 straight days of memtest didn't produce results. [12:05] anonym5510: stop that because some op will give you ban, just ignore they [12:05] akshat: try new ram maybe [12:05] akshat, if it takes several hours before starting to work, i believe it's mostly mobo [12:05] ktos I got 500 IP's ;) [12:05] Well the troll obviously doesn't know the difference between "where" and "were". [12:05] lol.. this domain gets about 1 spam connection every 3s [12:05] Action: NthDegree is off to take a shit... XD [12:05] lol what about having a bot that has community vote to kick? lol that would be so dangerous. :P [12:05] ktos I also have an army of bots ;) [12:05] agris: is there a way to test it? [12:05] they call me LORD [12:05] Just goes to show the kind of intelligence we're dealing with. [12:05] omg , a irc hacker ! [12:06] IT LIVES!!!!!!!! [12:06] anonym5510: dont waste you time ;) [12:06] agentc0re: these guys are parallel to me in the 3rd day. [12:06] next he'll spell, "know" for "no" [12:06] if mobo... don't know probably only if all other hardware is working good :) [12:06] so, is there any vm best suited for gaming? [12:06] Maybe faulty power supply. [12:06] flame_me, no [12:06] anonym5510: so if you got banned, you'd be "mature"and attack them with your bots [12:06] if I dont use x at all do I need dbus server ? :) [12:06] I dont no much about qemu to be honest [12:06] Laptop or desktop? [12:06] gm152: was that for me? [12:06] flame_me: no just keep windows for gaming [12:06] supergear sometimes my army does things I did not command them to do [12:06] :) [12:06] eviljames: Ah, that explains it all. Those that live in the 3rd parallel of the 4x24hour time cube are usually idiots. [12:06] they are fisty [12:07] Yes, akshat. [12:07] ;D [12:07] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.15.25) joined ##slackware. [12:07] uhhh... I can't.. I have an acer aspire one with no dvd drive [12:07] wow.. 3 minutes in and it's already rejecting 17 msgs/min! [12:07] feisty. Again, learn to spell. [12:07] gm152: but would the system restart if it was so? [12:07] anonym5510: fisty, eh? I'm sure there's a your mom joke in there somewhere. [12:07] Zordrak: heh. nice! [12:07] god damn it [12:07] no I mean fisty [12:07] I mean I don't get a display on restart after crash but the system does restart [12:07] Sure you do. [12:07] flame_me: Oh ok [12:07] anonym5510: Did you write all the custom software that the bots run? [12:08] akshat: That rules out the power supply. [12:08] anonym5510: stop because nobody can ask the question [12:08] eviljames why do you think Qemu is better then the alternatives? [12:08] eviljames: No he copy-pasta'ed them [12:08] anonym5510: I didn't say it was better, I asked what virtualization software you've written that was better than qemu. [12:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:08] tell me please if I dont use x at all do I need dbus server ? :) [12:08] eviljames well I helped create virtualbox. heard about it? [12:09] ktos: yes. [12:09] its from sun microsystems [12:09] :) [12:09] anonym5510: link the proof. [12:09] uh, sun bought that company [12:09] yes sun created virtualbox, not [12:09] ffs, what's the final verdict? I need to install either vmware, virtual box or qemu in the next 5 minutes or else I'm fucked (going for mil. service and no internet access there) [12:09] again, it's for gaming :) [12:09] anonym5510: if you helped create virtualbox, you'd be a very wealthy person, and not trolling on irc [12:09] soro (n=soro@unaffiliated/soro) joined ##slackware. [12:09] anonym5510: any other 'big lies' you want to try on the channel? [12:09] flame_me: buy vmware [12:09] agentc0re since when do you need proof? you are all about personal insults. you have not given me a single reason to rise above it [12:10] http://pastebin.com/d49cbfc98 [12:10] this is my syslog messages [12:10] guys i've booted with other kernel, but still doesnot accept any isers, does anyone got idea? [12:10] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] flame_me ... gaming on acer aspire one?? lol :) [12:10] lol what does it look like when setup is formatting and finds a bad sector in a HDD? [12:10] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@r2az200.net.upc.cz' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:10] anonym5510 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: -ENOTROLLAGE here. [12:10] woot. [12:10] agris, it's an old game [12:10] woot, which op woke up? [12:10] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Woooo!! I FUGGIN LOVE SLACKWARE!!! All up and running and being thrashed to bollocks: Only 457MB RAM used, Load Avg: 0.00 [12:10] Arcanum, by Troike (if you know it) [12:10] Troika [12:10] flame_me if old, why just don't use wine [12:10] Zordrak: hehe, nice. [12:10] Thanks, whoever did that. [12:10] it doesn't install at all [12:10] i think even the bot got sick of him [12:11] flame_me: vmware seems to work best with games [12:11] lol DeeeeP [12:11] Zordrak: Doesn't it just feel good when shit works right off the bat? [12:11] gm152: ok... I didn't think so either.. it is a coolermasters supply and has been very stable [12:11] I need to install on an xp machine and then copy the files outside the vm [12:11] alright, vmware it is [12:11] flame_me: vmware isn't free tho [12:11] agentc0re: What bat? Ive been working for weeks on this bastard, not to mention all weekend :D [12:11] damn.. [12:11] Zordrak: nice. congrats:) [12:12] akshat: Are you using a framebuffer in lilo config? [12:12] hitest: ty [12:12] yes.. but that has been there since long [12:12] OK. [12:12] agentc0re: thank you [12:12] flame_me: they have an trial or you can find other ways to get it [12:12] like 2 years now [12:12] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:12] it's not the fact that it's non-free that bothers me, it's because I'm leaving in in few moments in a desolate place without net access [12:12] that sucks [12:13] gm152: did you see my paste ? that seems to be just before the crash [12:13] flame_me: mybe dual booting would be quicker [12:13] baybe [12:13] I'd try a normal VGA at first especially if you did a kernel upgrade. [12:13] bah [12:13] maybe [12:13] I partitioned all free space [12:13] humm never tried this but can you install just the A series with out any problems? [12:13] Zordrak: Ya, but you just implemented it. Something could have gone wrong going live.. [12:13] kornerr (n=kornerr@vir1a.toonel.net) left irc: "Leaving." [12:14] lf4: you can [12:14] *nod* [12:14] but then it appears very often and looks more like a message from smart rather than an error [12:14] tho you'd have little to no apps and no net [12:14] can i make to boot in root without asking for password [12:14] akshat: Was that you who said a hard disk drive sounded loud? [12:14] superGear: true... I just need to check this HDD. [12:14] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] gm152: no [12:15] i'm placing bets he's rebooting his modem to dhcp a new IP... [12:15] OK. [12:15] wait, akshat you have smart errors and 3 beeps in your bios beep codes? [12:15] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:15] eviljames: yes [12:15] lf4, did you use slackbuilds to install virtualbox? [12:15] x1user: the best you could do is set the root password to null (not a good idea though). [12:15] akshat: .. that doesn't sound good. [12:15] akshat: sucks to be you. [12:15] eviljames: they don't exactly look like smart errors [12:15] lf4: how to make it [12:15] flame_me: just download it from virtualbox's website [12:15] flame_me: no I downloaded the binary. [12:15] eviljames: more like smart messages [12:15] Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 57 to 58 [12:16] eviljames: yes [12:16] alright :) [12:16] lf4: right now i am booting form the cd again to see the passwd file [12:16] x1user: as root type # passwd [12:16] eviljames: does that seem suspicious? [12:16] akshat: That is considered a critical error. [12:17] im trying to set up tag files for install... i want to exclude all of X, KDE... i dont want to have to go through the whole tag files for those groups... can i specify a tagfile in the root /slackware dir? [12:17] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [12:17] eviljames: but if that was the prolem why would i not get a display after the system crashes and restarts ? [12:18] Probably because it can't find a boot sector to boot from. [12:18] Did you cold boot? [12:18] lf4: passwd not found, can i set manually to null from the shadow file [12:18] gm152: umm... it would show me the BIOS codes atleast.. [12:18] akshat: Yes, true. I was going to ask. [12:19] gm152: the monitor is unable to get a display [12:19] akshat: i can't say what all might be wrong with your hardware. were you bathing with it? :D [12:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] gm152: the light just blinks like in the case of no signal [12:19] eviljames: hehe :D [12:19] eviljames: hey, I'll try tha .. maybe it'll cool it down.. :) [12:20] *that [12:20] x1user: yes just change the x to ! for root:x: in the passwd file [12:21] x1user: might I ask why do you not want root to have a password? [12:21] lf4: it does accept any user [12:21] how do i set up a tagfile to SKP a whole diskset [12:21] Guest91549 (n=mike@89.243.220.49) joined ##slackware. [12:22] lf4: no matter what user i enter on login it even not ask for password, just show login agin [12:22] i cant do anything [12:22] gm152: any way to check my mobo.. [12:22] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.72) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Desktop, right? [12:23] x1user: so your at tty0 and type in root as the user and it just prompts you again? [12:23] gm152: yes [12:23] do you use slacware for desktop? [12:23] First, re-seat the RAM sticks. [12:23] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] lf4: idd! [12:23] tty1 [12:23] the sme thing [12:23] x1user: idd? [12:23] gm152: can they become loose without any shocks ? [12:23] indeed [12:24] ah ok [12:24] lol x1user your systems messed up if you cant even log in as root. [12:24] i cant even log in to fix something :@ [12:24] x1user: You'll have to use a livecd to edit the files. [12:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] Some do suffer from thermal creep but the tabs should lock them in place - they might have been inserted improperly in the first place as well. [12:25] lf4: i was doing that, tried to boot with other kernel but the same [12:25] lf4:no idead what else to edit [12:25] gm152: ok.. yes [12:25] gm152: what next to check ? [12:25] lf4: ya know you could have him boot to init 1 and just reset root [12:26] x1user: not boot with another kernel you need to boot from a whole different system. [12:26] lf4: also that but what to edit [12:26] wsp4th: I didn't know that. [12:26] Check leakage or blown capacitors, try another power supply ... [12:27] Do you use slackware for desktop? [12:27] x1user: is that question directed to me? [12:27] no to ll [12:27] to all [12:27] yeah, I use it as a desktop [12:27] Padhu1 (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: "Leaving." [12:27] x1user: this is a slackware channel most if not all in here use it in many ways. [12:27] If you have more than one RAM stick, try one then another. [12:28] gm152: ok.. [12:28] I am asking exact for desktop [12:28] i user slackware mostly for Servers, but i do have 2 slackware workstations for Dev [12:28] (Meaning, use only one RAM stick on the board at a time). [12:28] x1user: Yes I use it for a desktop along with a server and laptop. [12:29] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [12:29] gm152: yes [12:29] Action: lf4 exits to clean up. [12:29] I am thinking of installing Debian maybe, slackware is the best for me, but too much problems, and even cant upgrade it ... [12:29] damn... now rejecting 54 msgs/min [12:30] Someone even adviced me today to make a fresh install of current, when i was asking how to upgrade [12:30] If that doesn't solve the problem, either your motherboard or CPU is done (and I doubt it's the CPU). [12:30] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [12:30] gm152: why do you doubt the cpu? [12:31] I rarely see them give out (but that doesn't mean that a CPU can still die). [12:31] s/can/can't [12:31] x1user: I'v upgraded my slackware install for many releases now, and it's still rock steady [12:31] feindM how do you upgraade [12:31] those electrolytic capacitors are the weakest thing on motherboards, when they get too hot the expand and can pop and leak, sometimes explode [12:32] Guest91549 (n=mike@89.243.220.49) left irc: "Leaving" [12:32] x1user: I read the documentation :) Spesifically "UPGRADE.txt" [12:32] gm152: ok.. i thought you said that the cpu might be a problem [12:33] You may want to try to remove all loads except the power connections that connect to the motherboard too. [12:33] akshat: Yes, the CPU could be a problem but the motherboard is more likely to be faulty than a CPU. [12:34] gm152: actually i myself work in a semiconductor company.. and all our SOCs are tested before the go to the customer and it is rare for sole semiconductor components to fail after they pass those tests [12:34] may be the problem is in me doh... [12:34] yes, unless the CPU has gotten too hot and fried [12:34] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:34] i need to use an old gcc to compile a 2.4 kernel [12:35] Pig_Pen: that doesn't happen often [12:35] gm152: so it looks like the mobo [12:35] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] how do i get an old gcc into slackware? [12:35] Very likely if you tried all those tests already. [12:35] agentc0re: now loading the crap out of her passing 5000 emails into sa-learn --spam [12:35] Chakravanti: why? [12:36] followed by 5000 into sa-learn --ham [12:36] says it can't be compiled with gcc 4+ [12:36] needs 2.93 - 4 (but not 4) [12:36] Chakravanti : why would you want 2.4 kernel? [12:36] not often, as long as it was installed correctly = thermal paste & cooling block & fan [12:36] building a system for an old machine [12:36] with minimal functionality [12:36] Chakravanti: so use an older version of slackware. [12:37] im just compiling the kernel from slackware [12:37] Chakravanti: try 11 [12:37] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [12:37] Zordrak: Heh.. What's the load at? [12:37] im trying to make this an absolutely minimalist system [12:37] and teach myself about the linux kernel at the same time =) [12:37] Chakravanti : and how is 2.4 kernel going to accomplish that? [12:37] install packages just from A dir then [12:37] Chakravanti: just build the new 2.6 kernel without the extra feature and it'll perform better that the 2.4 [12:38] but i just spent 3 hrs configuring a 2.4 kernel =( [12:38] lol [12:38] hehe [12:39] Chakravanti: use an older slackware release x2 [12:39] 3 hours? do you function in slow motion? [12:39] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:39] that included research [12:39] into half the shit that i had no understanding of [12:40] which is half the reason im doing the project [12:40] ah, ok i will accept that [12:40] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] lots of time on wikipedia [12:40] lol [12:40] you would not want to use the 2.4 kernels unless you want to use some old drivers that have become obsolete and are no longer maintained in the upstream 2.6 [12:40] Chakravanti: older releases of slackware shipped older gcc versions [12:40] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] uhh... can mdf files be mounted as iso9660 file systems? [12:40] Chakravanti: how old is the system ? [12:40] thumbs i just want to compile this kernel for that computer on this machine im currently using [12:40] celeron mendecino [12:40] Zordrak: i'm looking at my stats for Saturday's email. Since no one is working, all that is happening is incoming spam. received 25,596 emails, DNSBL's blocked 25,312, Spam assassin blocked and Quarantined 125. only 159 were passed... before it was checked by my greylisting server. :D [12:41] PII - 400mhz, 32mb ram [12:41] if the latest 2.4.xx kernel would support my wifi card in my old laptop i would slap a slack-11 install in it and build the latest 2.4.xx kernel in a minute [12:41] tell me something bad aboud debian pls =| i need some courage [12:41] no ethernet card [12:41] x1user: they httpd / apache2 package sucks [12:42] Zordrak: weekly stats. http://pastebin.com/d6de64dac [12:42] something abouth desktops [12:42] Chakravanti: lol... I had a p3 400 mhz with 64 Mb ram till last year running 2.6 [12:42] Chakravanti: it worked like a rocket :) [12:42] yeah [12:42] i think in the end i ought to go 2.6.XX anyway [12:42] debian's /etc/alternatives & sysv sucks (just more messy and complicated than it needs to be) [12:42] the driver i need comes with the kernel [12:43] i dont have an ethernet card and the logistics of stringing one to the computer would be shitty even if i did [12:43] slackware is the most unix like. when you learm slackware you learn unix. that makes me feel better [12:43] but i have this wifi usb card... [12:43] old ass system + wifi [12:43] lol [12:43] on a desktop >.> [12:43] lmao [12:43] yup, i bet Slackware users are more comfortable using BSD than users of other Linux distros [12:44] Ubuntu is GREAT for deprogramming people from the microsoft brainwashing [12:44] slowloy converting them to open source...like a pizza attack [12:44] Chakravanti: if you must use wifi, stick with 2.6 [12:44] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [12:45] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Chakravanti: i agree with thumbs [12:45] yes i used to like ubuntu, it was the first linux i used for long time [12:45] but of course....once you know what you're doing you can realize how ugly even Ubuntu is in the process it has followed to make itself more windows like (idiot friendly) [12:45] same xluser [12:45] but it's so script heavy [12:45] till the packet manager fucked up good in one version, it was a mass failure, since then slackware and everything is stable [12:45] consumes so many resources [12:46] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:46] yeah [12:46] but i cant make my laptop like i want :@ [12:46] Chakravanti: one of the many reasons i use slackware :D [12:46] ubuntu fucked with some of my shit majorly when i upgraded to JJ [12:46] agentc0re: nice [12:46] when i run wesnoth, an AI turn can take 5 minutes on some scenarios [12:46] all scenarios take less than a minute for the AI to clac in slackware [12:46] on the same system [12:46] with no other programs running [12:47] lol [12:47] Damn it! my ssh connects only locally. I cant connect from another pc. It sais Network connection timed out. [12:47] Chakravanti: LOL [12:47] although...in slackware i can run extra programs and still tay under amminute [12:47] slackware64-current should i install this, is it for 64bit cpus [12:47] although, TO BE FAIR [12:47] Ubuntu>Windoze at multitasking [12:47] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] Slackware>>>>>>>>>>>>Ubuntu [12:47] Keiffer: check the firewalls / routing? [12:48] Ubuntu is for windows users, everything is automated [12:48] no xluser [12:48] x1user: are you needing 64bit? [12:48] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] it's for CONVERTING windoze users [12:48] everyone has to start somewhere [12:48] agentc0re: if it will run fasteR? [12:48] ubuntu is great for that [12:48] hey.. I have to leave now. Thanks veryone for your help and square(thanks) to *gm152* :D [12:48] indeed, i converted one friend ;D [12:48] when peeps get serious about their OS....Slackware is there [12:48] x1user: if you don't know that, then you don't need it :) [12:48] same [12:49] bye [12:49] i've converted a few peoplew ith ubuntu [12:49] i was converted with ubuntu myself [12:49] akshat (n=akshat@122.163.250.185) left ##slackware. [12:49] agentc0re: it is supposed to be faster, but it is still new [12:49] but i'm not freshman anymore!! [12:49] thumbs, firewall is set to let ssh. router, i don't have one. can we get through it, please? [12:49] *Sigh* [12:49] ./configure make make install ::) [12:49] at least i'll have half my research done when i go configure this 2.6 [12:50] but i've got to go mow the lawn [12:50] take a shower and get high [12:50] hey alien u there? [12:50] hopefully ill have the 2.6 kernel compiled before i start trippin [12:50] high? [12:50] or at least configured [12:50] it can compile while im tripping [12:50] yeah [12:50] Keiffer: something is blocking it. check your logs as to why it wont allow you to ssh remotely. [12:50] what is to get high? smoke ? [12:50] i have a shamanic expedition planned for the next couple of days -) [12:51] Chakravanti... dude your an idiot just STFU [12:51] yeah i got some weed to go with [12:51] agentc0re, what logs? [12:51] ./ignore [12:51] =) [12:51] the last i smoke i was i will with low blod sugar, and i passed out and after that puked 5 times ... [12:51] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [12:51] i was ill i mean [12:51] yeah [12:51] you just a 10 year old who thinks that oregano is a drug [12:52] you gotta have a stable system before you start putting funky shit into it [12:52] that was the last time i smoked [12:52] or there no telling WHAT's going wrong [12:52] haha yes [12:52] Kernel panic [12:52] lmfao [12:52] Zordrak: whats great about untangle is that i can see what users send the most or receive the most spam. [12:52] been tempted to change a couple of peoples email addy's. [12:53] I got some real HOMEGROW oregano in my backyard [12:53] it's the shit dude...so ptent [12:53] potent [12:53] i got durpban poison, buddha, afghani x mazzar [12:53] havent seen them for 20 days [12:53] since i passed out [12:53] you should try some of this peppermint i just got done curing [12:53] it'll not your socks off [12:53] knock [12:54] ...Am i in #weed? [12:54] i had some basil too but it got eaten by beetles [12:54] agentc0re: should i install the 64 version [12:54] lol we got sidetracked ag3ntugly [12:54] err [12:54] agentc0re, [12:54] > /dev/null [12:54] lol [12:54] mistab [12:54] and all i've had so far is coffee and WGFJ.... [12:55] WGFJ ? [12:55] white grapefruit juice [12:55] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.37.84) joined ##slackware. [12:55] what's the special for white, i have never seen [12:55] used to saturate certain liver enzymes to keep them busy and stop them from breaking down certain chemicals [12:55] like DXM or most opiates [12:55] a few others [12:56] oh are psychonaut [12:56] Yeah [12:56] shaman [12:56] LOL [12:56] x1user: 32 bit should be fine if you don't have an insane amount of memory in your system and you don't use apps that use a considerable amount of CPU (such as encoding which takes half the time on 64 bit vs. 32 bit). [12:56] x1user: It's really up to you. You'll need to read up on a few things and understand what -current is. I will point you in the right direction though... look for Alienbob's mirror-slackware-current.sh script. [12:56] anyway [12:57] i gotta go get the mawn lowed [12:58] gm152: i got 3g ram ddr2 sony vaio fw 140, i use the laptop for workstation. I am coder and security enthusiast, what is better for me [12:58] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/local-slackware-mirror/ [12:58] Chakravanti: I feel like the epic fail guy since i passed out, not taken even a beer since then [12:58] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:58] If you want the best of both worlds, use a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland [12:59] apps that use a lot of pointers for convenience waste a lot of memory on 64-bit vs 32-bit [12:59] question is there a tagfile that can be used to exclude whole disksets? [12:59] I am starting to get it [13:00] well, it's a learnign experience x1user, now you know your system and what interferes get glucose moniter even if you're not diabetic to measure yourself before you get stoned [13:00] but they should run faster? [13:00] NthDegree: during install, or rsync ? [13:00] thrice`? [13:00] er, wsp4th ^^ , sorry :> [13:00] There's nothing there that would be advantageous using a 64 bit over 32. [13:01] Chakravanti: lol i was drinking glucose with creatine before ;D, do you know what happened with diabetics if they smnoke [13:01] install [13:01] gm152: there's is for security [13:01] i know how to exclude during rsynv [13:01] rsync* [13:01] gm152: randomisation of libraries and full NX support in 64-bit [13:01] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Saint_The7 (n=rafal@91.145.134.77) joined ##slackware. [13:01] using the 64 version will be faster only on certain 64 bit applications ? [13:01] OK. [13:01] gm152: you need PAE enabled in 32-bit to get NX and there's no randomisation of libraries because it has a performance hit [13:01] trying to build tagfiles for building a couple base instals for Amazon EC2 AMI [13:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:02] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] I want to have a stable and fast system. Most will be compiling, and runing a local web server for test. I code in C and PHP mainly? [13:02] also due to how linux uses VM space, there's a few other advantages with 64-bit (but those need userland as 64-bit too) [13:03] j have 4 different sets fo tagfiles im building out and 2 sets i want to exclude anything X-windows related [13:03] By the way what do you work guys? [13:03] Ah, ok, NthDegree. [13:03] x1user: if you want a stable system, 32-bit userland (kernel can be 64-bit or 32-bit) [13:03] I don't even understand why people question 32-bit vs. 64-bit. there are no disadvantages, and only performance gains to be had [13:03] what is userland, the programs that i run? [13:03] armence__ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:03] Greetings everyone. :) [13:03] I am asking about theperformance [13:04] x1user: userland means software applications yeah [13:04] does anyone remember how to see the topic of a channel without joining it on freenode? [13:04] thrice`: yes there are disadvantages... like needing 32-bit libs for running proprietary apps - thus wasting RAM [13:04] it wont be a problem to loose somey memory, any way i can fill 3gb of ram in linux [13:04] hi fire|bird:) how are you? [13:04] hitest: hey, doing excellent, thanks. you? [13:04] sahko, /msg alis list #channel [13:04] NthDegree: how does that waste ram? [13:04] thrice`: more memory usage due to increased pointer sizes and such [13:04] thrice`: having two copies of GTK+ in memory isn't wasting? [13:04] I am well, ty, fire|bird:) [13:05] edman007: alis? [13:05] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] thrice`: having two copies of Xorg libs in RAM isn't wasting? lol [13:05] we also need to have in mind that the 64 bit cpu will be used for future [13:05] NthDegree: seriously, how much? [13:05] sahko, its a bot, does the same thing as the /list command, but a few extra featurers [13:05] edman007: ok thanks [13:05] BTW, how many 32-bit ONLY apps even exist these days, outside of games and shitty closed-source software? [13:05] its part of services (like chanserv/nickserv) [13:05] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.15.25) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] thrice`: Google Chrome :P [13:06] thrice`: Gens is another one that comes to mind [13:06] Wine [13:06] ok, so you recommend running 32-bit, so as not to waste a couple megabytes of ram loading 32-bit libraries, to run things like CHROME?? [13:06] it's more than a couple of megabytes [13:07] I think you're off :) [13:07] x86_64 if faster than x86, even when you take into account the extra memory used [13:07] does Pat come here sometimes? [13:07] ktos: yes, now and then. [13:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [13:07] ktos, not often, but i have sen him in here [13:08] can something be wrong with 64bit slack except loosing memory [13:08] i agree with NthDegree without the PAE option you cant exceed 4gb... even then 32bit does fully utilize the memory... 64bit is the way to go [13:08] if you don't need exclusive 32-bit only apps, there is no reason to choose 32-bit IMO [13:08] Pat is like rock star :) famous [13:08] and celebirities [13:08] x1user, slackware64 is not multilib, you can't run 32-bit apps on it (slamd64 does support 32-bit stuff) [13:09] does an user need to be part of the group audio to get alsa to work fine? [13:09] edman007: that's easy to sort though [13:09] edman007: it is indeed multilib :) [13:09] bind mount a 32-bit chroot install to /usr/lib and such [13:09] edman007: i know that i just wonder if i sacrifice some ram will my system run faster [13:09] x1user: in general, yes it will [13:09] thrice`, ohh, they added the 32-bit libs? [13:10] no, pat doesn't provide 32-bit libraries, but the toolchain definitely supports multilib [13:10] thrice: you were asking me about install or rsync... do you know how to build out root tagfiles to exclude disksets? [13:10] ohh [13:10] Action: edman007 does not consider that "multilib" [13:10] so items like: http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [13:10] bee_bee (n=erga@212.183.136.193) joined ##slackware. [13:10] will work [13:10] sucks having 4G of ram and only using 3 cause of 32bit [13:10] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.47.85) joined ##slackware. [13:10] wsp4th: the installer should have an option to omit disk sets, no? [13:11] i got 3gb ram will it be enough? [13:11] btw if you only have 512MB RAM you can get a performance boost on 32-bit too by removing HIGHMEM options from the kernel :P [13:11] NthDegree, not much.... [13:11] but then you need a light desktop to benefit [13:11] fluxbox [13:12] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:13] hello [13:13] hi fredoslack [13:14] hi NthDegree :) [13:15] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:16] oh shit.... ive found a problem... it doesnt affect me much.. but if others get the same.. ill get it in the neck... for some reason i cant work out, TB is not storing the password for smtps at restart.. only per session :S [13:17] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] Zordrak: it works fine here. [13:17] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] thumbs: smtps? [13:17] Zordrak: yes [13:17] thumbs: dovecot? [13:17] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Zordrak: i assume the host runs that [13:18] whoops [13:18] i meant postfix not dovecot [13:19] Zordrak: I don't know what the remote host runs, but it's on linux. [13:22] bee_bee (n=erga@212.183.136.193) left irc: "Leaving" [13:22] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [13:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn227.91-127-70.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("reboor for maintenance"). [13:26] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.47.85) left irc: "Saindo" [13:31] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.162.179) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Tell me please why when I type "slackpkg download" nothining is happening? in man there is no infor about additional param [13:33] ktos: you need to spply the package name. [13:34] ktos: man slackpkg :D [13:34] y0 agentc0re, how's it going? [13:36] yo [13:36] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:36] hey dakarn [13:37] but I would like to donwload all new/updated packages [13:37] tell me please is it possible? [13:37] ktos: slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [13:37] I don't see it in man [13:38] thumbs: download != download and install [13:38] :) [13:38] ktos: upgrade-all gives you the option. [13:38] How long will Slackware 12.2 be supported for? :D [13:38] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [13:38] thumbs: ah, sorry :) [13:38] it's the last KDE 3.5.x release :( [13:39] john_dee (n=id@89.179.29.82) joined ##slackware. [13:39] greetings [13:39] are there any tools in stock 12.2 to monitor cpu temp? [13:40] lm_sensors [13:40] cli? [13:40] john_dee: sensors [13:40] yes =] [13:40] sensors-detect to set it up [13:40] fire|bird: alright. you? [13:40] tnx [13:40] john_dee: yeah it's CLI based [13:40] ok I didn't choose for example kde in installation groups will slackpkg note it as new? [13:40] ugh I don't get how a remote code exploitation is in the JDK/JRE for java [13:41] ah nvm know how know [13:41] now* [13:41] dive, remember the keyboard nodeadkeys issue i had yesterday ? [13:41] setxkbmap -layout "pt" -variant "basic" [13:41] lagann_ (n=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: "Leaving" [13:41] ktos: upgrade-all will only upgrade existing packages. [13:42] thumbs: I think about install-new actually ;) [13:42] because man says to use it before [13:42] ktos: what do you think that does, exactly? [13:42] ktos: type slackpkh [13:42] ktos: type slackpkg [13:43] slackpkg [13:43] thumbs: I would want to get only packages which where never before in slackware by this command, without this ones which I unsected in installation [13:43] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [13:43] thats why I am asking [13:44] because I suppose it will download packages which I dont want to have [13:44] ktos: define "packages which were never before in slackware" [13:44] Hydroponx (n=hydr@68.113.115.239) joined ##slackware. [13:44] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: [13:45] for example sth what Pat add to current (rare event btw :P ) [13:45] ktos: you either install a new package, or upgrade existing packages. [13:45] slackpkg does that? or you use something other? [13:45] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [13:45] ktos: what you're trying to do makes no sense. [13:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-174-48-78-91.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] ok, you are right, sorry I messed up ;) [13:47] thumbs: but why If didnt installed kde xap and a lot other I see only 12 packages in list of install-new ? [13:47] that was the reason of my doubt [13:48] ktos: perhaps before there are only 12 packages which you haven't installed? [13:48] no i didn't installed kde has really more pkg than 12 ;) [13:48] off the standard mirror, that is. [13:49] huh? [13:49] thumbs: could you reprhase please? [13:49] ktos, maybe because install-new gives you just really new packages not ones you've already choosed not to install [13:50] agris: that is just what I asked, but thumbs says it's not [13:51] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] but no [13:51] armence_ (n=armence@c-67-188-229-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:51] seamonkey is placed in xapp which I also disselected [13:51] well, slackpkg clearly describes what install-new does IMO [13:52] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: [13:52] hm [13:52] Install packages that were added to Slackware distribution. [13:52] that is from man [13:53] run just slackpkg [13:53] hi [13:53] that looks I was right or you misundestood me thumbs ;) [13:53] there is said you should use it when upgrading slack versions or using current [13:53] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: "leaving" [13:53] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [13:53] I use current actually [13:53] and there is obvious reason for that [13:53] ktos: actually, I see why your question was ambiguous now. [13:54] Ok. SSH with RSA keys. How do that works? [13:54] JackBauer: what have you tried so far? [13:54] JackBauer: and what version of slackware are you using? [13:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [13:54] everything. [13:54] JackBauer: everything? [13:55] i use the ubuntu version of slackware. [13:55] you've tried threatening it with the wrath of doom? :o [13:55] O.O [13:55] thumbs, everything you can imagine [13:55] ubuntu version of slackware? [13:55] where does slackpkg put downloaded pkgs? [13:55] ubuntu version of what? :D [13:55] JackBauer: do you use ubuntu, or slackware? [13:55] Action: quasar is now confused. [13:55] ubuntu... [13:55] lol [13:55] JackBauer: ask #ubuntu [13:56] cyclist (n=a@adsl114-172.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Quiznos: /tmp, I believe [13:56] pam :) [13:56] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] they know ssht.. not ssh [13:56] lol [13:56] Tough ssht. [13:56] JackBauer: and how is that our problem? [13:56] lol [13:56] it's interesting that slackware for others actually means linux itself [13:56] :D [13:56] well, it's not. but i am trying to make it [13:56] JackBauer: ask #ubuntu [13:56] agris: that was the point ;) [13:57] agentc0re: excellent, thanks. Soon going to connect my other 120G drive for storage with all this hdd images I'm working with. :P [13:57] ask #ubuntu... those guys are talking about video card. every day. since dawn of ubuntu [13:57] JackBauer: ask #ubuntu [13:57] JackBauer: better yet [13:57] JackBauer: install slackware then come back and ask [13:58] hehe [13:58] JackBauer just do # sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start [13:58] or whatever [13:58] omg!! that was the root of the problems! [13:58] hey rworkman [13:58] and #ubuntu knows better [13:58] using vbox 3.0.4 ? [13:58] and should i plug the server side to power too? [13:59] omg. troll again? [13:59] probably [13:59] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:59] juice2: I am [13:59] JackBauer: if they are talking about video card issues in #ubuntu, just pretend you have one too and blame it on ssh not working ;) [14:00] I'm taking a break and reading some about linux. don't rely on me when i'll be back very with an astonishing know-how [14:00] well I guess it would be any 3.0.x one [14:00] but you know how to keep the fullscreen bar from popping up at the bottom [14:00] ? [14:00] JackBauer: take your snide comments elsewhere [14:00] fire|bird: Ya, did you ever get your qemu image to work? [14:00] juice2: isn't there a config option for that? [14:00] JackBauer I believe there is anyone who would be interested in how to set up sshd with rsa in ubuntu [14:01] I was hoping so :) [14:01] agentc0re: no, mancha gave me a different command to try when I get the one sysprepped image back on my hdd here so I'll give that a try when this transfer of that image is done, in one hour. :P [14:01] juice2: I don't notice any issues with it (I don't konw what it is either). [14:01] Hydr0p0nX (n=hydr@68.113.115.239) left irc: Connection timed out [14:01] juice2: Machine -> Settings -> General -> Advanced :) [14:02] Perhaps our usages are different [14:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] agris, why is that? [14:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] fire|bird: What's the command? and did you give nlite a try? [14:02] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.37.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] JackBauer: many of us have tried to hint around at this, but you seem impervious to hints, so... [14:03] pprkut lame [14:03] agentc0re: Nope, no nlite, remember, Runtime error. :P [14:03] i figured that was a global option [14:03] not a per machine [14:03] Keiffer = JackBauer lol [14:03] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-169-253-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: [14:03] JackBauer: Nobody gives a rat's ass about trying to solve an Ubuntu problem, and many of us think that a high degree of asshattery is being shown when someone expects otherwise. [14:03] cyclist (n=a@adsl114-172.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:03] yea, i can't connect dunno why.. [14:03] ergo, you're being an asshat. [14:03] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.102) joined ##slackware. [14:04] juice2: nope. File a bugreport :P [14:04] thanks though [14:04] fire|bird: Oh ya.. i forgot about that. [14:04] :) [14:04] np :) [14:04] fire|bird: What is the sysprep command though? [14:04] agentc0re: qemu -m 256 -hda /home/firebird/QEMU/windows_xp.bin [14:04] fire|bird: Oh, not for sysprep but for qemu.. [14:04] strange thing happen to me. I can't even connect with my main nick [14:04] agentc0re: one line above. :D [14:05] rworkman it's just a "mini toolbar" for the machine settings [14:05] i think i'm ceasing to exist [14:05] fire|bird: Yup, i thought you were talking about what you passed for sysprep, not qemu. [14:05] how do you invoke liferea? i used sbopkg to install it and there seems to be no command called "liferea" to fire it up!! (I cannot see it in my menu also) I am using slackware 12.2 with XFCE [14:05] like reboot reset leave fullscreen etc [14:05] it hides at the bottom [14:05] until you hover over it [14:05] agentc0re: Ah, nope, that's the qemu command. :) [14:06] or have it set to show at the top or disable it :) Ic now [14:06] KidnetBeans (n=user@196-209-169-253-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [14:06] njathan: tried this: whereis liferea to see where it installed to? [14:06] juice2: I would consider "top" a better default though [14:06] fire|bird, tried that too.... returns nothing :-( [14:07] i uninstalled it, cleared the source cache, installed it again.. still no positive result :-( [14:07] i'd rather it just hide unless I pressed a key or key comobo [14:07] njathan: ls /var/log/packages/*liferea* <---Check if the package is installed. [14:07] s/comobo/combo [14:07] oh no [14:08] why qt is placed in libs [14:08] agentc0re: 55 minutes left of this transfer, then I'll try that command. It's transferring over USB. :/ [14:08] fire|bird, that returns: /var/log/packages/liferea-1.4.20-i486-1_SBo [14:08] in installer it was described that qt is placed in kde group [14:08] njathan: Well, it's installed then. Have you tried just running liferea from a terminal and seeing what the output is? [14:09] fire|bird, well i tried that... says "Command not found" [14:10] write in terminal exact path to liferea which has to be found in your /var/log/packages/liverea-whatever file [14:10] njathan: Hmm, I'm not sure if this works in bash terminals (I use zsh) but try typing in a terminal life and then hit tab (maybe even a few times) and see if liferea is listed, maybe there's more to the name than just liferea. [14:11] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@r2az200.net.upc.cz expired. [14:11] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@r2az200.net.upc.cz' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:11] cmair (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:11] fire|bird: So are you sure your image is fine though? [14:11] njathan: you could also use less /var/log/packages/liferea-1.4.20-i486-1_SBo and see where it installed the files. [14:11] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: [14:12] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:12] agentc0re: I am assuming it is, yeah. Last night, I used partimage to make another image (which is 11 gzipped files) 25G in size total. [14:13] o_O [14:14] fire|bird, tab completion works in bash too.. but not for liferea :-( [14:15] i just did a locate liferea, and here's what i got: http://pastebin.com/dc4bba86 [14:15] sups [14:15] njathan: ok, try that less command then and see where it's putting it. [14:15] Nick change: KidnetBeans -> KidneyBeans [14:16] njathan: by that pastebin, it looks like it didn't install the actual program itself. [14:16] njathan - less from /var/log/packages/liferea-1.4.20-i486-1_SBo [14:16] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) joined ##slackware. [14:17] hi fire|bird :) [14:17] run the less command I posted above, paste that in a pastebin. [14:17] hey fredoslack [14:17] i've tested Linux Mint :p [14:17] fire|bird, agris : here's the cat of the package located in /var/log/packages: http://pastebin.com/d5ad065e3 [14:18] you haven't actually installed it [14:18] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:18] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:18] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] juan--d-1-b (n=juan--d-@190.165.29.167) left irc: Client Quit [14:18] njathan: Yup, something didn't go right, it didn't actually install liferea itself. [14:18] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] try to go to /home/sbo/12.2/network/liferea and run liferea.SlackBuild file [14:19] then installpkg /tmp/lifearea-vatever [14:21] okay agris.... lemme try that [14:21] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-170.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [14:21] njathan: you did install gconf too, right? That is a dep of liferea. [14:22] fire|bird, well.. i did not... and liferea installation did not prompt me to do that...... [14:22] probably won't too :) [14:22] as is Orbit2 [14:23] njathan: you need to install it's deps too, otherwise it won't work. :) [14:23] y0 chopp [14:24] damnit [14:24] hey fire|bird :) [14:24] i need to upgrade this puter to windows 7 :/ [14:24] KidneyBeans: OHGODWHY? [14:24] fire|bird, : yeah sure... from past experience i thought sbopkg will prompt for the missing dep..... [14:24] so that i can irritate linux users. [14:24] i'll install it now [14:24] njathan: sometimes it does, sometimes it does. It's always a good idea to read on slackbuilds.org what the deps are and install them first. [14:25] err. sometimes it doesn't. :P [14:25] slack doesnt manage deps properly 8-| [14:25] muah [14:25] KidneyBeans: It's not designed to. In slackware YOU manage the deps. [14:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [14:25] http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/WindowsAPICodePack/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=3077 [14:26] they just released the code for letting you code for windows 7 [14:26] right on time, wayyy before the release date. [14:27] whats the coolest php ide these days? [14:27] -goes to other chatrooms- [14:27] w7 stable is already out but available for download only. if you want to migrate to w7, you probably will find #windows more comfortable ;P [14:27] x11 cannot find a libglx that is installed. wth? [14:28] is win7 rtm, stable? [14:28] agris: who the heck could possibly want to chat about windows in a chatroom?! [14:28] agris: Yeah, to TechNet and MSDN subscribers. [14:28] KidneyBeans: Um, Windows users? [14:28] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:e2a:a:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] C00re: "stable" is taking it a bit far.. lets just say it has been released (silently, didn't even tell their beta testers.. at least, I didn't get an email) [14:28] C00re, only as stable as its users i guess. [14:29] bbiab [14:29] rez [14:29] x11 cannot find a libglx that is installed. wth? [14:30] urg windows is always stable, its just when you start using it for work when it used to fck out; its an old bad rep thats probably not even worth the grounds it stands on [14:30] missed link to lib? [14:30] is the library installed? [14:30] maybe it searches it in some other place then /usr/lib [14:30] what is that command for checking if an indivual library is loaded? [14:33] objdump -x /path/to/execute [14:33] should [14:33] err [14:33] read that wrong [14:34] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.47) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] what is the command similiar to objdump [14:35] for shared libs, ldd [14:36] I used alien's script to build a -current iso but instead of making one dvd iso it made 3 different cd isos, is there a way of combining them to make one dvd iso ? [14:36] nope [14:36] readelf :P [14:36] found it [14:36] lol [14:36] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.15) joined ##slackware. [14:36] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:36] everyone wish me luck >< i got schedule for an exam [14:36] good luck!!! :) [14:36] good luck! [14:37] what you writing missy? [14:37] good luck [14:37] yay :D [14:37] ty ty [14:37] >.> its a comptia a+ exam [14:37] yay [14:37] ah. I always use ldd to find shared lib dependencies... only time I've used objdump was to (try to) convert a COFF object file to an ELF one (it didn't work!) [14:37] :) [14:37] :( [14:37] missyjane did you study hard ? [14:38] i created a set of tag files for installing slackware-current... i ran `installpkg -root /build/ami/mnt -tagfile /build/slackware-tagfiles/a/tagfile /build/slackware-current/slackware/a/*.tgz` but all it did was install slackpkg [14:38] GsXs (n=GsXs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:38] KidneyBeans, i tried, its a lot harder now the test and the 2009 came out [14:38] Urchlay they are all usefull [14:38] yeah [14:39] wsp4th: try ".t?z" [14:39] I didn't even know readelf existed [14:39] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [14:39] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:39] try readelf -a /usr/bin/pidgin [14:39] or such [14:39] all kinds of info [14:40] *.t[gx]z <---- or that [14:40] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [14:40] BeardedAvenger (n=chikenli@97-120-151-165.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] GsXs (n=GsXs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:40] what do you see in example URL here? - torrage.com [14:41] in the URL? I see some letters and a period :) [14:41] i really like the list of needed libs they provide [14:42] Urchlay: no, in brackets [14:42] john_dee: "You can not search or list torrent files that are stored here, you can only access them if you already know the info_hash value of the torrent you want to download. [14:42] The way to access torrents is simple, you just use the url http://torrage.com/torrent/INFO_HASH_IN_HEX.torrent (note HEX values A-F must be in uppercase) " [14:42] thrice: i just tried that like you suggested but i get error that file cant be installed cause it doesnt end in tgz [14:42] brackets? huh? [14:42] Urchlay: look down at Example URL [14:42] agris, fire|bird : i am trying to run the liferea.Slackbuild file and i get an error saying that Mozilla is not installed. More precisely, it says: "checking for Gecko provider firefox... checking for MOZILLA... no" [14:43] is is not a url *.t[gx]z [14:43] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.162.179) left irc: "leaving" [14:43] that's an expression [14:43] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-94-186.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [14:43] Urchlay: there's a link and a description in brackets. so what is there in description? [14:43] njathan and do you have firefox installed? [14:43] agris, looks like its more of a configure variable problem... where can i fix this? [14:43] yeah, I see the example URL is a slackware 12.2 iso torrent, is that what I'm supposed to see? [14:43] agris, yeah i sure have [14:43] in slackbuild file [14:44] just edit it (correctly) [14:44] Urchlay: yeah, thnx. i thought i was hallucinating %) [14:44] BeardedAvenger (n=chikenli@97-120-151-165.ptld.qwest.net) left irc: [14:44] gsxs (n=GsXs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:45] what's RandR? [14:45] oh boy i get to go grocery shopping today [14:45] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (22,3): Anybody knows how to solve this problem/ [14:45] ? [14:45] get me a window box fan? [14:46] gsxs ##Linux [14:46] Quiznos: yeah? [14:46] yea what? [14:46] hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [14:46] Quiznos: windows boxes rule [14:46] o [14:46] what's RandR? [14:46] dont make me flood the room [14:46] fire|bird, can't wana go grocery shopping but it needs to be done [14:46] Quiznos: thought of googling what it is? :D [14:46] heh [14:47] Quiznos ok, sry [14:47] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:47] i thought getting an answer here would be faster [14:47] nix_chix0r: indeed it does. [14:47] gsxs no need to apologise [14:47] gsxs your root= is wrong [14:47] i should stop buying diapers and just tape a bag to his butt [14:47] in lilo [14:47] mancha: I'll be trying that command here in a bit, 16 minutes of transfer left. [14:47] Quiznos: X extension [14:47] Quiznos , package from X it is [14:47] duh [14:47] nix_chix0r: hahaha, it'd be cheaper. :P [14:47] yes, but i don't know how to fix it. A know i have to boot option root='0301' here [14:48] and i can't even boot slack, so, i don't know where to type it [14:48] gsxs you just installed slack? [14:48] well what disk and partition is your / on? [14:48] no [14:48] but [14:48] gsxs slack has been running and you just compiled a new kernel? [14:48] i have opened and CHANGED my hda and my hdc driver [14:49] to what [14:49] nix_chix0r: potty training, then those terrible twos [14:49] gsxs slack has been running and you just compiled a new kernel? [14:49] or your missing the fs driver in your kernel is another possibility [14:49] my motherboard wasn't recognizing my HD, so i needed to do this [14:49] and tried to boot it [14:49] gsxs, boot from install media, correct boot device and later change it in /etc/fstab [14:49] gsxs if you could answer a question or two... [14:49] Pig_Pen: i.e. The years in which nix_chix0r goes bald from stress and pulling her hair out. :P [14:49] almost there lul [14:49] lol [14:50] had to cover the greys again [14:50] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:50] some women look sexy bald [14:50] no, i've compiled nothing [14:50] agris, from the "configure --help" file it looks like MOZILLA_LIBS is that variable... Is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins the right path? [14:50] nix_chix0r: Well, soon you won't have any hair at all to worry about, just hang in there. :) [14:50] agris, i'm goingo to try what you've said [14:50] going* [14:50] can i get like a toupee or is that only for guys [14:50] njathan, can't say exactly :) [14:50] Pig_Pen: indeed they do, and others, well... :P [14:50] gsxs 1 and 2 points are together [14:51] you'll see an example when install will ask to enter kernel [14:51] nix_chix0r: yeah, just get a wig, from the pictures you've shared here before, you have short hair, nobody will notice. :P [14:51] pictures and I missed them :P [14:51] gsxs, you should better check it yourself ... ;) [14:51] i don't nothing about kernel compiling, that's a big problem :x [14:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.15) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [14:51] juice2: yup, you did, you weren't around. :) [14:52] yes [14:52] i'm gonna try what you said agris [14:52] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.15) joined ##slackware. [14:52] hugesmp.s root= /dev/sda probably or smthng ;) i don't remember exact line [14:52] juice2: She had her entire face painted with the slackware logo. :P [14:52] ok [14:53] agris, Quiznos, thanks for help, i guess i know what to do now :d [14:53] bye ;D [14:53] c u [14:53] gsxs (n=GsXs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: [14:53] hah [14:54] where are mozilla libs usually supposed to be? [14:54] hmm [14:54] i tried the above path, not working...... :-( [14:57] njathan, sorry, i haven't slack with ff installed right now :) cannot tell [14:58] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] in /usr/lib/ [15:01] i guess you should write place where nss and nspr libs are located [15:02] njathan: Do you have seamonkey installed? [15:02] nspr is in /usr/include/ [15:02] and nss [15:02] err [15:02] fire|bird, no seamonkey... i have firefox, and opera [15:02] nss3 and nspr4 :) [15:03] njathan: try installing seamonkey and then try installing liferea. [15:03] yeah in /usr/lib/ [15:03] at the moment i would bet these are those libs you want to [15:03] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [15:03] then either in the firefox or seakmonkey folder [15:04] seamonkey even [15:04] seakmonkey. lol [15:05] 3 9 11, 2 4 8 [15:05] 12 ! [15:05] wrong [15:05] the answer is alwasy 12. [15:06] wrong [15:06] what's the pattern? [15:06] 10 [15:06] wrong [15:06] there's a pattern? lol [15:06] %) [15:06] yea, there is. [15:06] I wasn't looking for one :) [15:07] 1 patt, 2 answers [15:07] 7 [15:07] wrong [15:07] oh, cammon, explain why otherways any answer can be wrong ;P [15:08] is that engrish? [15:08] say "Uncle" [15:08] yeah, not grammatically correct, but english none the less. :P [15:08] 20, 16 :p [15:08] barely [15:08] Action: missyjane pokes fire|bird [15:08] wrong [15:08] :)) [15:08] lol [15:08] youre gonna hate yourselves when i tell [15:09] Quiznos: STOP THE SUSPENSE, give the answer. [15:09] say "Uncle" [15:09] no [15:09] aunt [15:09] say "UncleQuiznos" [15:09] haha [15:09] lol [15:09] no way [15:09] TOASTY! [15:09] that's the pattern! [15:09] wrong [15:09] ok here's the fx, square [15:10] ahaha [15:10] any guesses before i embarrass all of you clowns? :) [15:11] 3 9 11, 2 4 8 [15:11] who you callin clowns, you Sub. :P [15:11] im not the one with red faces of frsutration [15:11] lol [15:11] toasty deliciousness:| [15:11] heh [15:11] say "Uncle" [15:12] ok here's the answer to choke on: [15:12] 3 9 11 [15:12] 121 [15:12] 2 4 8 [15:12] 64 [15:12] In -current, you can install seamonkey-solibs to get the nspr4 and nss3 without needing to install the Seamonkey suite. [15:12] you're all bozos! [15:12] gm152 !! [15:12] were so sorry, uncle albert, but we haven [15:12] 3 9 11 121, 2 4 8 64 [15:12] Hey ya, Quiznos. [15:12] good ref!! [15:12] a bloody thing all day [15:12] hihi [15:13] heh :) [15:13] i broke it [15:13] we love da subs... [15:13] i cant believe none of you geeks got that [15:13] hand in your geek cards! [15:13] i'm fake [15:13] you're all dismissed. [15:13] lol [15:13] Action: missyjane is happy [15:14] hi missyjane [15:14] hi hi Pig_Pen :D [15:14] 1, 3, 7, 13; what's the pattern? [15:14] 17 [15:14] who cares the patterns [15:14] odd numbers? [15:14] and what's the sequence? [15:14] Quiznos: the pattern is, this is annoying. :D [15:15] i don't do math [15:15] you doin anything else? [15:15] primes [15:15] nop [15:15] looking for the seq [15:15] isn't 2 prime too? [15:15] Is the next number 21? :) [15:15] 1 isn't prime. [15:15] 1 is uniq [15:15] 21 [15:15] 1 is the loneliest number [15:16] poor 1 [15:16] may i pm you Pig_Pen? :D [15:16] 21 is the next in sequence; what's the pattern? [15:16] yeah' [15:16] 21 +2 +4 +6 +8 +10 etc [15:16] the difference increases by 2 every time [15:16] correct [15:16] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [15:16] 2^n [15:16] howdy BP{k} [15:16] those never have unique answers [15:16] fire|bird: howdy :) How goes [15:17] BP{k}: goes excellent, thanks. Just working on the laptop hdd images again. :P [15:17] ok here's one for the old fogies; if i can build it [15:17] fire|bird: hehe, hope it goes well. ;) [15:17] mancha: With the command you gave me last night, it just sits there at "Booting from hard disk..." [15:18] hah, so a regression? [15:18] patterns are usually not to hard to figure out [15:18] sorry, i have no sysprep fu - which i honestly am proud of :) [15:18] haha, thanks for trying. :P [15:19] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-109-194.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:19] oh, my ears - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9v1r99xv0 [15:20] mancha: I'll be trying the images partimage made today too and see if there's any success there, I first have to get them into one image though, right now it's 11 gzipped images. [15:20] Haha fire|bird still fighting with those images? [15:20] lol thats awesome! [15:21] lf4: indeed I am. :/ [15:21] fire|bird: You just trying to make it one file? [15:21] lf4: These 11 files, yeah. They were made from partimage. [15:21] what ya trying to do? [15:22] make 11 files into 1? [15:22] fire|bird: the reason for one file just personal OCD? [15:22] juice2: See how much it takes before I go crazy. :P j/k, I'm just trying to image my laptop hdd and last night I used partimage and it put it into 11 gzipped files. [15:22] lf4: Well, probably will work nice with qemu [15:23] meh zipped [15:23] juice2: It sure cut down on the file size. :P [15:23] fire|bird: oh you're going to use the image for qemu? [15:23] yeah [15:23] lf4: if it works, yeah. [15:24] fire|bird: alright now I understand the reason for one file. [15:24] I was just thinking one big file you can easily piece 11 into 1 [15:24] but zipped is a diffeent story [15:24] err [15:24] different [15:24] lf4: phew, thank gosh. :P [15:24] juice2: I'm sure there's a way to do it, I'm just not sure what it is. [15:25] fire, once you succeed you need to write it up! :) [15:25] if it was just a single file you could just cat file1 >> file2 [15:26] mancha: haha, yeah, no doubt. [15:26] then cat file2 >> file3 [15:26] and so on [15:26] fire|bird: lol what? [15:27] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [15:27] y0 Cann0n [15:27] hey [15:28] yeah [15:28] I am able to pull from tds very fast here [15:28] well was I had 1Gbit to my workstation now it is limited to 100mbit [15:28] Cann0n: How's it going stranger? :P [15:28] so 12.5MB/sec is max I can get [15:29] from tds I used to get like 80MB/sec or better [15:29] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] err [15:29] wrong channel [15:29] bumper sticker: "If I throw a stick, will you leave?" [15:29] haha [15:30] fire|bird: maybe make a partition in a file on a loop device, and then use partimage to restore the files to this partition [15:30] could have used that this morning :) [15:30] fire|bird: doing good. hows things? [15:30] ml4711: Yeah, that may work. [15:30] Cann0n: excellent, thanks. [15:30] i've been good [15:30] alisonken1home: lol, except if the person won't go away once you throw the stick. :P [15:31] single again. broke... same old shit lol [15:31] fire|bird: I noticed :) [15:31] Cann0n: Heh, gf left ya? [15:31] Cann0n: because you are broke? :P [15:31] alisonken1home: :) [15:32] nah. i left her. im not a fan of neediness [15:32] Nemeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-29-140.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] Nemeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-87-124.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@68-25-155-127.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-141-21-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:34] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.33.74) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-127.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-162-250.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] who know knedliczki ? [15:35] knows* [15:36] Cann0n: Ah, I see. [15:36] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:36] knedliczki? sounds like something i need to google for because i never heard of it before just now [15:36] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:37] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:37] lol Pig_Pen [15:37] some sort of food? a bread or pastry? [15:37] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-141-21-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:37] family name :) [15:38] it's a german coffee shop [15:38] oh [15:38] now this is an icon 256x256 [15:38] http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=103 [15:38] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [15:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:39] 32x32 is what i use for icons, 256x256 is HUGE for an icon [15:40] yeah [15:40] two icons on 800x600 screen [15:40] cool :) [15:40] lol [15:40] i remember that in the day [15:40] get 4 icons on the desktop [15:40] at the 640x480 [15:40] or was it the 320x [15:43] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:44] who is Andreas Nilsson? does he comes in here? [15:45] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:45] srecko2 (n=srecko@93-138-54-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] I don't think so ... [15:47] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-109-194.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:47] fire|bird: here is a nice sound. http://www.filedropper.com/badhdd [15:47] he has some weird icon ideas, and reading the text under a desktop icon is not an issue for people of average intelligence and once a user is familiure with their desktop i am sure the text part is ignored [15:49] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [15:51] icons fail [15:52] Pig_Pen: Skip 8 mins in lol for icons :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAuLqaLGvZU [15:52] lf4: yikes, that's not yours I hope. [15:52] Man_of_W1x (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:53] fire|bird: lol :D it is a 120GB WD Caviar drive [15:54] MVP (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] MVP (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] bah, I fail with qemu. :P [15:58] fire|bird: we know [15:58] Man_of_W2x (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:58] lf4: Gee, thanks for the support. [15:58] fredoslack: Thats what I'm here for :) [15:58] tab completion FAIL [15:58] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-162-250.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:58] Why are you using qemu instead of Vbox? [15:59] I may suck at qemu, but you can't even tab complete right. :D [15:59] yes error tab lol [15:59] haha fire|bird Yes missed the i in fir ;) [15:59] lf4: I'm working with .img files, etc. and vbox doesn't like those to well. [15:59] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-162-250.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] fire|bird: VMware! :D [16:00] Right now I just want to create a .img file to use as a qemu virtual hard drive and I'm failing. [16:00] lf4: that was suggested to me yesterday. I can't remember now, but don't you have to have an account with them or pay to use VMware, I've never used it. [16:00] looks like i am cooking dinner again, wife is napping on the couch, i got smoked sausage with greenbeans & taters simmering [16:01] Pig_Pen: and you're making enough for all of us, right? :P [16:01] fire|bird: Not to use the "player" but I think for the server you need to pay, (reason why I use Vbox) :) [16:01] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] yup [16:01] \o/ [16:01] lf4: I haz no monies, you give me monies? :D [16:01] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:01] any particular reason kde 3.5 would cease accepting keyboard input when x still accepts it? [16:01] fire|bird: qemu-img doesn't work ? [16:01] Pig_Pen: whoohoo :P [16:02] Lord_Khelben: I'm reading up on qemu-img right now to see what I missed. :P [16:02] fire|bird: I have a grand total of 100,000,000 zim dollars :) [16:02] AnonymousRednek: never heard of that before [16:02] what isn't working with image creation and qemu-img? [16:02] lf4: Which is what, like $1 in USD? [16:02] fire|bird: no ways... more like 1-2 cents [16:03] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:03] lf4: WOW, I can get a tootsie roll. [16:03] Pig_Pen, yeah, xfce and kdm work for keyboard...but once i get into kde proper, it no longer works [16:03] fire|bird: it is very easy, and it creates a sparse file so it is way quicker than dd. if you will need to loop mount the image use the raw format otherwise the default qcow is fine [16:03] AnonymousRednek: nothing at all works ? no key no numlock etc ? [16:03] AnonymousRednek: its probably some borked config file inside of ~/.kde somewhere [16:04] Lord_Khelben, no, nothing works [16:04] Pig_Pen, probably [16:04] fire|bird: awe wait they must have dropped another 1,000,000 off because now 1,000,000,000ZWD = 274,914USD [16:04] antiwire: nothing except me just not knowing how to use it to create an image with it. :/ I'm reading the man page. [16:04] cause firefox works fine under xfce and fvwm, but not kde for entering text [16:04] lf4: haha [16:05] kde xkb kcontrol applet overrides X settings, but it would only change language and stuff not render it completely unusable [16:05] if you dont have anything inside ~/.kde that you dont want to lose (konqueror bookmarks) just delete ~/.kde and log back in [16:05] or mv .kde .kde.orig [16:05] srecko2 (n=srecko@93-138-54-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [16:06] fire|bird: try qemu-img create test.img 2G [16:07] Lord_Khelben: This is for to use with an image of a laptop hdd, so I need around 160G :P [16:07] wait what? [16:07] yes i just mentioned 2G to test what goes wrong [16:07] antiwire: I need a file that can expand out to at least 160G or it won't work. [16:07] it should work fine [16:07] Lord_Khelben: yeah, I get the idea, thanks. [16:08] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] you will load the image from the laptop in qemu ? [16:08] antiwire: I tried it with a smaller virtual hdd to use and it wouldn't work and said that the partition was outside the disk or something like that. [16:08] Lord_Khelben: trying to, and failing so far. :/ [16:09] if you already have the image then why do you want qemu-img ? [16:09] <_budo> there a linux program out there that is fully compatible with yahoo messenger? (voice and cam capability) [16:10] Lord_Khelben: Well, the image files are failing. Last night I made another image with partimage, which split things up, so I was going to try to use partimage to restore those images and see how much that one fails. [16:10] _budo: there used to be a yahoo messenger for linux. check if it is still developed [16:10] otherwise pidgin supports yahoo but not voice/cam [16:10] <_budo> k [16:10] _budo: Kopete has cam support, not sure about voice. [16:10] ah yes i forgot about kopete [16:10] <_budo> ok, thanks [16:10] Man_of_W1x (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] Kopete is suppose to do irc too, but I've never got that working. [16:11] fire|bird: a raw image taken with dd works in qemu. i don't know what partimage does [16:11] ah, all these darn images, I don't have enough free space in /home to do this. I gotta get my other hdd hooked up. :P [16:12] Lord_Khelben: I tried dd, it fails. With the one, windows starts and then the mouse and keyboard don't work, and with a dd image after windows sysprep, it doesn't work at all. [16:12] well, dd doesn't fail, it just isn't working with qemu. [16:14] windows is a bit stubborn when it comes to hardware. put a disk with a windows installation on a box with different motherboard with the same chipset and everything breaks [16:14] Lord_Khelben: yeah, hence why I tried sysprep. It didn't work for antiwire either, BSOD's. :D [16:14] maybe that's the cause [16:14] mostly you can't do it becouse of license :P [16:14] qemu emulates some specific hardware [16:15] it is like taking a windows install and trying to run it on different hardware, doesn't work [16:16] going to have to install fresh to get it to work well [16:16] yes exactly [16:16] ones more of the beauties of unix(or unix/like) systems [16:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [16:17] i had 2 cards with rtl8139 chipset (one compex and one ati) and they needed their own driver to work in windows, while linux only cared about the chipset [16:17] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.28) joined ##slackware. [16:17] hello rg3 [16:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:18] hi [16:18] hi rg3 [16:19] etf (i=c958eccc@gateway/web/freenode/x-f0646e4e617d4ae9) joined ##slackware. [16:19] rg3: i have a (maybe stupid) question. if i froze a package in slackroll, how can i unfreeze it ? i tried some things, but in the end i deleted the db [16:20] Lord_Khelben: i guess you probably want to mark it as installed [16:20] maybe i should add an unfreeze alias for that [16:20] ah ok. i'll try it next time [16:20] Lord_Khelben: installed PKG... Mark packages as installed [16:21] yes it works [16:21] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:21] i upgraded cmake some time ago and i tried it on that now [16:21] Lord_Khelben, antiwire: http://blog.kirb.us/2008/10/09/how-to-convert-a-physical-hard-drive-to-a-virtual-machine/ Steps 8 and 9 specifically. [16:22] marked it as installed and it shows it as outdated again [16:22] thanks rg3 [16:22] yep, unfreeze is a better alias [16:22] That link may be using windows and M$ Virtual PC, but the process of coping those files may work with what I'm doing. [16:23] i tried to reinstall it and stuff like that. didn't think of marking it as installed [16:23] because you mark it as installed, but if you're not sure if it should be installed or outdated maybe you don't know what to do (despite slackroll choosing the good option for you even if you mark it as "installed" [16:23] ok, i'll add an alias for the next version [16:23] no it worked fine with installed. it correctly shows it as outdated [16:24] fire|bird: did it work ? the steps 8 and 9 i mean [16:24] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.102) left irc: "Leaving" [16:25] Lord_Khelben: haven't tried yet, just found it, but looks interesting none the less. [16:25] I will be trying it. [16:25] good luck [16:25] thanks [16:25] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-50-200.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [16:25] brb though, going to connect another hdd so I have more space. :P [16:26] Well, wait, I can just remove that one image that doesn't work at all for now. [16:26] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-50-200.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: Client Quit [16:27] 80GB a good size for a PXE server if it will have multiple images/OSes? [16:28] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [16:29] Ugh, I wish I didn't have to wait for these files to transfer over usb first before being able to try stuff. :P [16:29] Lord_Khelben: added and uploaded commits, it'll be there in the next version (and in the mean time you can also download it from the repository if you want to try it) [16:29] fire|bird: lol external HDD? [16:29] Nick change: init[1] -> slackerbaby [16:30] lf4: yes. :( [16:30] rg3: ok thanks :) i'll remember installed now but unfreeze may help new users too [16:30] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Action: slackerbaby o/ greets slackers :) [16:30] fire|bird: Sorry to hear. [16:30] :) [16:30] Action: lf4 greets slackerbaby [16:31] rg3: i follow the git tree, got it now [16:31] fire|bird: get a external casing with esata :) they are nice [16:31] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [16:32] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) joined ##slackware. [16:33] laters [16:33] lf4: that'd sure be nice. :P [16:33] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:34] Action: slackerbaby aaa, finally my voice was heard by lf4 :) [16:34] Action: slackerbaby hands over cup of coffie to lf4 [16:34] slackerbaby: what voice? This is irc, you type, not talk. :P So your text was SEEN by lf4. :D [16:35] hehe force of habit :) [16:35] lol fire|bird slackerbaby [16:35] Action: slackerbaby hands over cup of cold coffie to fire|bird, [16:35] hello slackerbaby [16:36] Action: fire|bird puts the cup of coffee in the microwave. :P [16:36] hi Lord_Khelben :) [16:36] slackerbaby: hows it going? [16:36] gaa gaa gi gi goo goo, [16:36] lol ok [16:36] lf4: aa.. just completed my seminar report [16:37] it took me days to complete it . [16:37] nice [16:37] particularly it had to be done on page maker :/ [16:37] that is a head ache software !! [16:39] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-176-30.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] Action: slackerbaby watching the movie , stg bilko [1996] [16:40] is that the one with steve martin? [16:40] yes, that military thing [16:40] weird. i watched it yesterday noon :) [16:41] wow, all slackers does the same i guess [16:41] i mean with a delay of earths rotation [16:41] :P [16:41] actually it would be weird if i hadn't watched it because a greek/german tv channel played 3 times this week [16:41] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] summer reruns suck [16:42] Nick change: alice_c -> alice_ [16:42] so watch some of the new shows [16:42] warehouse 13 and royal pains are good [16:43] any Prison Break fans here ? [16:43] kator (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] i read good stuff about true blood but i haven't watched it yet [16:43] is there a torrent for slackware -current ? [16:43] kator: no. [16:44] kator: use alienBOB's script [16:44] BP{k}: :-( i had bad luck with alien's current iso building script , it just made 3 cd isos [16:44] kator: i does make dvds too [16:44] s/i/it/ [16:45] slackerbaby: how ? [16:45] i only changed the mirror in the script .... [16:45] kator: run the script with -h [16:45] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:46] slackerbaby: ok thanks [16:46] kator: np, [16:46] gonna have to reinstall a differen't distro to build the isos because the 3 cds messes up my slackware installation [16:46] Action: slackerbaby first time some one ,thanked slackerbaby [16:46] Action: slackerbaby yay [16:47] :D [16:47] slackerbaby: heh, you need to learn when to use /me and when not. [16:47] thank you slackerbaby for all the times you helped everyone [16:47] kator: whats wrong with the 3 cd's [16:47] Action: mancha hello [16:47] BP{k}: :) [16:48] BP{k}: lilo was messsing , passwrd was missing too and lilo won't boot slackware because the 3cds never installed a new lilo [16:48] slackerbaby: i.e. those to lines weren't the time for /me. :P [16:48] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I am Joe's quit message." [16:48] s/to/two/ [16:49] fire|bird: yea i figured that out :P [16:49] Action: yesyes thinks fb shouldn't care [16:49] you all must know that human brain is not designed for multitasking. that said if we are to perform two or more tasks simultaneously we're most likely to suck at both [16:49] Action: yesyes wonders if slackerbaby is really a baby [16:49] so test your abilities and share your result %) [16:49] http://www.kongregate.com/games/IcyLime/multitask [16:49] my is 118 for now [16:50] Saint_The7 (n=rafal@91.145.134.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] yesyes: yes :P [16:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.28) left irc: [16:52] kator: hmm it did never prompt you for the root password (it should do at the end of the install) and it should help you set up lilo as well [16:52] BP{k}: it did prompt me but it said that it could not find passwrd and lilo never came up to configure [16:52] kator: use "mirror-slackware-current.sh -o DVD" to create a single DVD ISO, or edit the script and set "ISO=DVD" in line 104 [16:53] alienBOB: thank you :-D [16:53] john_dee bah hit the wrong key got 50 first try [16:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] appleguru (n=applegur@c-67-166-6-182.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] appleguru (n=applegur@c-67-166-6-182.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [16:54] john_dee: i got 45 :-( [16:54] :P [16:54] john_dee: humans can multitask, [16:55] if i install ubuntu [16:55] Action: slackerbaby gona sleep, [16:55] write a paper in open office [16:55] and know jack shit about computers [16:55] john_dee: i suck at multitasking. i can't kiss and masturbate a girl at the same time, for example. i automatically stop one of the activities when the other begins [16:55] Pig_Pen: not very successfully :p [16:56] why won't my term paper come up on the computer at school? [16:56] omfg... [16:56] Pig_Pen: see, steiger proves my point %) [16:56] i can't .. give computer advice.....while tripping balls.... [16:56] troll alert! [16:57] no troll [16:57] i use slackware [16:57] Chakravanti: that takes some time to learn :D [16:57] i used to use ubuntu [16:57] well we are only human, can you play basketball? then you can multitask [16:57] i can't play basket ball [16:57] Chakravanti: :P [16:57] Action: yesyes hates how mplayer vol control turns the pcm volume down/up [16:57] i can play soccer [16:57] i can't multitask [16:58] that's what slackware is for [16:58] vury annoying [16:58] can you drive and talk at the same time? [16:58] Pig_Pen: well, that's more like taking turns in each activity [16:58] drive a car that is [16:59] but seriously.....this kid's first computer (he used to be amish) [16:59] like 15 [16:59] Pig_Pen: of course you CAN multitask, but the performance goes down in the activities that you engage simultaneously [16:59] and i showed him ubuntu [16:59] Pig_Pen: not really. if it anything more than yes-no-whatever talking [16:59] he's the unc;e of my kid [16:59] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl11-177.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:59] i'm talking to you guys while also thinking of what porn site to visit next [17:00] multitasking [17:00] plain and simple [17:00] I dont always multitask so well [17:00] i dont have goods rythm [17:00] i just move logically [17:00] yesyes: if you'd only think about the porn, you would come up with an idea sooner [17:00] it's no tthe best way [17:00] lol john_dee [17:00] quite fun [17:02] but it makws the most sense [17:02] Speaking of makin sense [17:02] steiger: there's no urgency to masturbate, so it would not be a good use of my energy to put all my effort into thinking about porn sites; however, i don't need all my brain power when irc'ing. i'm basically making use of unused cpu power to plan non-urgent future events. [17:03] yesyes: so yesyes, multitasking is desirable when doing two non-cpu-stress activities [17:04] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:04] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] steiger: i think i'd agree with that proposition. [17:04] OK people try to think of the kids here. This is a public support channel, not a hangout for the sexually frustrated [17:04] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [17:04] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-133.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] alienbob agreed I don't need to know who is one hand typing [17:05] alienBOB: kids use ubuntu, mainly. [17:05] sorry, alienBOB. you're right. i wasn't thinking about the kids. [17:05] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] and you can quote me on that. and my browser history will back me up. [17:05] what kids ? [17:05] alienBOB: unless it's a geek kid. if so, he's more of a freak than us [17:05] yesyes: a ban? [17:06] my baby brother is about the only kid i know that uses slackware and he is 22 [17:06] DeeeeP: for the love of god, there aren't any. [17:06] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.162.179) joined ##slackware. [17:06] yesyes, that's what i've tought [17:07] even us adults don't want to hear that. [17:07] There are several people talking in the channel at this moment of whom I estimate their age at less than 15 [17:07] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [17:07] lol [17:07] steiger: i believe i was watching a documentary on the History channel and some antropologist mentioned that the reason humans can easily be distracted from the task they are doing is actually a feature (not a bug) because if people were do focused on what they were doing (eating or drinking for example) then the sound of footsteps of an approaching predator would not distract you from what you are doing and you would become lunch for s [17:08] Pig_Pen: yeah, that makes sense [17:08] so ritalin is actually "curing" a feature, not a bug [17:09] well, it's a feature we no longer really need. [17:09] ritalin doesnt cure anything... it makes zombies [17:09] ritalin does not cure anything. [17:09] well, natural evolution gave us a lot of crap we don't really need anymore [17:09] dang [17:09] yeah, you dont need to hear that approaching truck and get out of the way [17:09] lol [17:10] heh, ok. [17:10] great news , Pig_Pen ... when i mess up something cause i got distracted and i do , a lot , i can blame on genetics or something [17:10] DeeeeP: just say [17:10] just say "im only human" [17:11] :) [17:11] daydreaming is very useful, too. look up articles on the default network. [17:11] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:11] crap half my development cycle is daydreaming [17:11] it is good to take breaks, give your mind a rest so you can start fresh [17:11] DebiEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] alienBOB: is the mkinitrd bug in the list of pending upgrades before 13.0? [17:12] server_side (n=Adam@82-37-16-25.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:12] what are the pros of slackware say to ubuntu? [17:12] like right now, i am going to take a break and let those that need to fix their slackware installs have the channel [17:13] rg3: what mkinitrd bug? [17:13] server_side: you're not gonna get anywhere with that question. [17:13] thumbs: why? [17:13] server_side: because [17:13] alienBOB: :( --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/pass-options-to-modules-in-mkinitrd.conf-741486/ [17:13] seems like a helpfull community [17:13] server_side: well, pros and cons depend entirelly on your goals [17:14] rg3: that is still on the TODO - and that file is rapidly getting shorter [17:14] apples VS oranges, ford VS chevy, standard VS automatic transmissions [17:14] alienBOB: glad to know it's noted somewhere, thanks :) [17:14] man debian freezes more than vista. . . . [17:14] i like apples, oragens, fords, some chevvys, standards and auto transmission [17:15] why we need to XOR everything? =P [17:15] server_side: slackware is backed up by a religion, and therefore divine. ubuntu lacks this. [17:15] huh [17:15] slackware isnt define; ubuntu is just gay [17:15] ooboontoo [17:15] server_side there are websites galore that describe the pros and cons of different distribs. ultimately a personal decision, go read. [17:16] haaahaa [17:16] thats the `o' sound as in salubrious [17:16] u [17:16] if you dont know what that means then just ficking google it. [17:16] bahaha [17:16] if you think you are going to be able to decide which operating system to use with a simple question like 'which is the best?' you're in for a surprise. [17:17] CP/m is best. [17:17] progenitor! [17:17] i would go for Ana Montana Linux [17:17] CP/m ? [17:17] and i have the channel here to prove it. [17:17] nobs called it cp/m [17:17] yeh DeeeeP i wud have to go for that one too. [17:18] crap; there's caffeine in my orange sode; should I bx to the oem about that? [17:18] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] s/sode/soda [17:18] i heard sourceforge and google runs on hannah montana linux. [17:19] no wonder i cant sleep [17:19] ok; so i got 1024x in xwin; i cant see the writing on the wall. howto change the font size? [17:20] i think its 1024 [17:20] it's too small [17:20] huh [17:20] what wm u into ? [17:20] 2pt font [17:20] buh; any [17:20] xwin doesn't exist [17:20] Xwindow is the proper name [17:20] man quiznos are you being retarded? [17:20] alil [17:20] i dont know all [17:21] negatory [17:21] i'm not proud. i can admit that [17:21] never use a 2 point font, those probably should be removed from Linux [17:21] not my choice [17:21] you always have a choice [17:21] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] yea but i didnt choose that size [17:21] howto change it? [17:22] what window manager are you using? [17:22] what app or window manager are you wanting to change your font in? [17:22] and why are you loading 2pt fonts? ive never even seen that [17:22] the last was kde [17:22] didnt load it by choice [17:22] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-181-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:22] so you're not using a window manager? [17:22] a default size. [17:22] Quiznos: turn in your geek card [17:22] i switch wm's [17:23] Pig_Pen i'm tryin, it's stuck "midin" position [17:23] quiznos where you from? [17:23] teetering [17:23] meerkin [17:23] why? [17:23] are you from alabama? [17:23] lol no [17:23] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:23] you sure? [17:23] ny born; currently in fla. [17:23] Quiznos: if you are using something old school you can see a selection of fonts with xfontsel [17:23] i'm sure [17:24] ah ok [17:24] dont lie to me now. [17:24] i do not lie. [17:24] i'm lying. [17:24] which is true? [17:24] erm [17:24] this is the Norman test! [17:24] lol [17:24] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [17:24] it doesnt count as a lie if you dont know [17:24] "The reader believes this sentence to be false" [17:24] dont know what? [17:25] lol yeaw that's it [17:25] Is this a question? [17:25] 1 and 1 is 3 [17:25] 1 and 1 and 1 is 1 [17:26] what do you get if you put two rednecks, one male and one female in the same room; and check up on them 40 years later? [17:26] chickens, cars on blocks, house on blocks and children, lots of children. [17:26] and a lot of "cotton eye joe " singing [17:26] heh [17:26] even the children are on blocks [17:26] meh [17:27] i thought you'd have a serious leadership struggle, with their kids daughters being their sisters n their brothers their dads n shit like that [17:27] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] its sorta like the dependancy problem in slackware. [17:28] lol [17:28] slackware is a southern usa family :p [17:28] or speed addicts or whatever [17:28] if two rednecks get divorced are they still brother & sister? [17:28] kator (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] lol [17:29] there are NO people in the mountain [17:29] that sounds like when GNOME was created coz QT wasnt open source and KDE wasnt either [17:29] mancha: yeah, probably, they just don't talk to each other but still attend the family reunion. [17:30] they got a divorce but still had the same daddy ;/ [17:31] now [17:31] server_side (n=Adam@82-37-16-25.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [17:31] qt and kde want to get married and have babies, but when qt woke up and realised he has a new daddy that doesnt approve of the weddin we got new problems. [17:32] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:32] bbl [17:32] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [17:33] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CAB69.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] mrS (n=Sven@82.75.176.213) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:34] http://www.vimeo.com/3016332 [17:34] problem solved /õ ! [17:36] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:43] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.28) left irc: "Leaving." [17:44] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-151-138.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: "I'm off here" [17:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@187.10.168.68) joined ##slackware. [17:50] john_dee (n=id@89.179.29.82) left irc: "link closed" [17:53] Guest69902 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i know there are probably others, but here's one reason t stay away from ubuntu: http://slashdot.org/story/09/08/07/1521208/Ubuntus-New-Firefox-Is-Watching-You [17:54] :O, so Big Brown = Big Brother too? :P [17:55] soro (n=soro@unaffiliated/soro) left irc: "Bye.." [17:56] mancha: sound's like something Ubuntu would do, almost Microsoft-esque. :P [17:59] firefox already does a form of it ;) [18:07] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@68-25-155-127.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:08] john_dee (n=id@89.179.29.82) joined ##slackware. [18:10] mancha : thanks. without you, i wouldn't know how to get to slashdot [18:11] after some updates i lost my kde effects [18:11] anyone has some idea? [18:11] anake, welcome. [18:12] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:13] evenin all [18:13] evening dive, how are you? [18:13] :D [18:13] LnxSlck, what was that dead key issue? I don't rememeber seeing it. [18:13] gar0t0: y0 man, how's it going? [18:13] fire|bird, hi [18:13] fire|bird: I'm fine, and you man? [18:13] dive, i have to eliminate nodeadkeys option from keymap.fdi [18:13] gar0t0: doing excellent, thank you. :) [18:14] dive, but everytime i reboot i have to : setxkbmap -layout "pt" -variant "basic" [18:14] strange [18:14] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Action: missyjane breathes in and breathes out [18:14] LnxSlck: add a script that runs that to ~/.kde/Autostart [18:14] fire|bird: :) [18:15] LnxSlck, you have a /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi? [18:15] dive, yes, and i copied it and edited it [18:15] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] LnxSlck, restarted hal? [18:16] exit X [18:16] dive, i restarted my pc [18:17] LnxSlck, can you pastebin the fdi? [18:17] dive, this line should do the trick: basic [18:17] I put 'intl' in that line and it didn't seem to work [18:17] dive, http://pastebin.ca/1523337 [18:17] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [18:17] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [18:17] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [18:18] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [18:18] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [18:18] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) returned to ##slackware. [18:19] dive, i also have the feeling that doesnt work [18:19] try changing it to [18:20] dive, that's what i had before [18:21] i will restart this [18:21] brb [18:23] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:24] ktos (n=ktos@adfh25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.166.17) joined ##slackware. [18:25] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] dive, still no luck [18:26] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:27] LnxSlck_, do you have an AllowEmptyInput setting in xorg.conf? [18:27] nope [18:27] anything in log? [18:28] dive, http://pastebin.ca/1523350 [18:28] that's my xorg [18:28] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@68-25-155-127.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] is that all of it?? [18:29] yes [18:29] i had an "old" xorg.conf file but then i removed it as suggested by someone [18:30] log might be useful [18:30] LnxSlck_: I just replied in the LQ thread. It *has* to be something overwriting the defaults. [18:31] rworkman, yes i saw.. but i'm using kde without it setting any keyboard layout [18:32] LnxSlck_: don't paste it here, but do "lshal | grep 'xkb.variant' [18:32] LnxSlck_, have you tried something like fluxbox where you know that nothing will be overriding? [18:32] dive's suggestion is good too [18:33] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-169-253-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] one at a time [18:33] lol [18:33] rworkman, input.xkb.variant = '' (string) [18:34] that's what i got [18:34] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@host37.190-230-54.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:35] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@host37.190-230-54.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [18:37] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CAB69.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:38] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] is it safe to use slackpkg to upgrade to slackware 64 bit when it is released stable, using slackware 12.2? [18:39] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:39] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@89.214.166.17) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [18:40] LnxSlck (i=1000@88.214.166.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] oh craqp [18:41] nvm thought I was in #overflow for a minute [18:42] I've had a debate with my co-worker about this, what's do people think in here for HDD's? Seagate or Western Digital? [18:44] lf4: seagate [18:45] thumbs: yay! :) [18:48] lf4 they all die [18:48] juice2: HDD in general? [18:48] i used to like seagate the best but maybe right now the deskstarts seems to being good [18:48] err [18:48] deskstar [18:48] deskstar? [18:48] lol never heard of them. [18:48] hitatchi [18:48] yep [18:48] hitachi [18:49] lf4, western digital is superior [18:49] references please [18:49] the seagate .11 or AS drives [18:49] are killing seagate [18:49] or were [18:49] the .12 drives seem back to normal [18:50] even the NS drives/ES2 ones had issues [18:50] with firmware and all [18:50] missyjane: lol thats what my co-worker is adamit about WD all the way. Haha my WD drives end up making a lot of noise. [18:50] we use wd 150gb raptors [18:50] and they seems okay not too many problems [18:50] but other than that, from my personal experiece they always sucked [18:50] juice2: I'm using one of the seagate drives that were suppose to been affected by that firmware issue, haven't had a single issue with it. :P [18:51] juice2: Interesting I heard about seagate having issues a while back but never really looked in to it. [18:51] fire|bird it's more in raid's I've noticed problems like 2u and bigger [18:51] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:52] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.52.238) joined ##slackware. [18:52] juice2: That issue was affecting more than just raid setups though, just single drives as all out of the blue not booting. [18:52] wb LnxSlck [18:52] on the 1U's with just 2 or 3 drives it hasn't seemed to be an issue [18:52] juice2: I'll find out soon enough going to set up a RAID 5 with 3x500GB Seagates. [18:52] agh yeah [18:52] I remember that from the reports [18:52] lf4: Well, if it goes KABOOM, you know why. :P [18:52] fire|bird, just trying to get the damn accent keys to work [18:52] LnxSlck: good luck. :) [18:53] lf4 what drive model? [18:53] fire|bird: Haha yeah :) lets see what damage I can do. [18:53] and firmware version? [18:53] lf4: yeah, just back things up. :P [18:53] juice2: umm let me check [18:53] fire|bird: always ;) [18:53] i mean if for no other reason seagate does have the 5 year warranty [18:53] v4nelle (n=van@78-48-21.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:53] deco (i=deco@plox.tor.hu) joined ##slackware. [18:54] not sure of anyone else has 5 now or not [18:54] s/of/if [18:54] juice2: some WD drives do. [18:54] k [18:54] caviar black [18:54] figured [18:54] RaNdY (i=randy@use.the.force.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [18:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:54] RaNdY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: I hate badly written bots [18:54] how big is the -currrent dvd iso made with alienbob's script ? [18:55] yeah so when the seagates all started dropping terrible in are windows machines we upgraded them all to hitachis and haven't had problems [18:55] 3.5Gb? [18:56] juice2: The drives are Barracuda 7200.10 [18:56] okay [18:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:56] hey antiwire :) [18:56] should be good [18:56] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-172-65.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] juice2: Yeah I got them a while back I heard the problems started happening around nov-dec last year. [18:57] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-172-65.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [18:58] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:58] wd_ (n=wd@cpe-98-154-149-160.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] firmware 3.AAK? [18:59] hello all week two of being a slacker. yay [18:59] long way from emerge..lol. [18:59] juice2: I never had to check firmware on a HDD lol how do you do that? [19:00] bios raid card or label [19:00] what type of raid? [19:00] software or hardware? [19:00] juice2: Software [19:00] hmm k [19:00] I wish I could do a hardware but lol $300+ for one card is a lot of money in my mind. [19:00] hey, I was wondering if it would ever be nice to have this option added to the stock rc.inet1 for people who use wifi and ethernet and would like to be able to plug the ethernet in for large network transfers without having to delete the route on the wifi interface. If you set the metric on the wifi to a higher number and then just leave the ethernet interface default, the system will send data out the ethernet interface but the wifi can rem [19:02] is the slackware -current dvd iso 1.7gb ? [19:02] lf4: for an HDD just try smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Firmware [19:02] yes I had brain loss [19:02] couldn't remember smartctl [19:02] lol [19:02] deco: yes [19:03] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) joined ##slackware. [19:03] a full slackware current ISO will be way more than 1.7GB [19:03] du -sh slackware-current/ [19:03] 3.6G slackware-current/ [19:03] I said this ealier [19:03] earlier [19:03] if your iso is onyl 1.7 you are missing the sources, most likely. [19:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] antiwire: im using alienbobs script so will it be 1.7 or 3gigs ? [19:04] deco: check it and see, maybe alienBOB's script omits the sources [19:04] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:04] read the script and see what it excludes [19:05] so lf4 the result? [19:05] My slackware64-current iso (dvd) made with alienBOB's script is 3.6G [19:06] juice2: Yeah all three drives 3.AAK [19:07] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] antiwire: i want this app toshutils for my lappy. i dl'd the source and filled out the slackbuild template but getting error. the slackbuild is only the build not the readme,*.info,*.desc..is that ok because i'm getting error. [19:07] ok, question. What would be the command to use to make an .iso file from a CD? [19:08] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "\o\ /o/ \o/" [19:08] dd [19:08] fire|bird: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/my.iso [19:08] edman007: k, thanks. I should have thought of that. [19:08] john_dee: thanks [19:08] wd_: you need to read through the script and fix it for your needs. it clearly states in the template that it is just an example. [19:08] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:10] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [19:10] wezeep [19:11] whyz nobody selling blade servers for linux? [19:11] antiwire: i thought it did..i filled out all the parts needed and compared it to a sucessful build i used. if all i have is a slackbuild i made and the tosh.tar.gz of source don't i make a dir /tmp/tosh then mv the build and tar.gz there, cd into /tmp/tosh and run build or is there more? [19:11] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0899.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [19:12] KidneyBeans: I wonder where your apparent 'wisefulness' comes from [19:12] wd_: Just filling out the parts you need does not mean that the program you are trying to package doesn't have something different going on that needs to be addressed [19:14] if it is erring out you look at the error and figure out where the build script needs to be fixed. [19:14] antiwire: oh a-l-lright. :( well checkinstall is awesome it compiled that way but i just want to use the build template. [19:15] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] wd_: There is no way that an example template can cover every possible situation. You need to figure out what is going on and make the script do what you need... [19:15] antiwire: well do i have that part right? if i just have the build and the source what's next? make dir /tmp/tosh then mv build and tar.gz there and chmod x build and execute? [19:15] antiwire: ok [19:15] first off you shouldn't need to mkdir /tmp [19:16] wd_: Do you understand what the different variables in the script are for and how they are set? [19:16] thumbs im not wise, just egotistical and strange. [19:16] You shouldn't hardcode /tmp anywhere either. [19:16] KidneyBeans: we already got the 'strange' part. [19:17] how? [19:17] DebiEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] (which is why you do the "mkdir $TMP" in there -- there's no guarantee that $TMP will already exist) [19:17] etf (i=c958eccc@gateway/web/freenode/x-f0646e4e617d4ae9) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [19:17] Action: rworkman would go for some strange, but the familiar would then leave me. [19:19] man [19:19] ive completely lost it [19:19] rworkman: do you know if alienbob's current script downloads the source too ? [19:19] in this massive industry of IT, i cant figure how to make any money :/ [19:19] deco: I don't. [19:19] deco: just read it an see [19:19] it's a script not some compiled code [19:19] and* [19:19] antiwire: sorry tmp is there already..i'm just making a tosh dir i was jus giving you a full path. [19:21] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:21] antiwire: ok what do u suggest when i need an app that's not in the slackbuild.. just ./conifure make checkinstall and chill out with trying to use a slackbuild? [19:21] I suggest you learn how a slackbuild workd [19:21] works [19:22] and I would also avoid checkinstall as much as possible because it does not always work correctly even if you are using the git version. [19:22] sometimes it simply does not work. [19:24] lf4 sorry [19:24] had to go reboot a couple servers [19:24] but yeah those drives have been good [19:24] juice2: lol no problem :) [19:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:26] normally I can do it from the desk [19:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [19:26] but hard drive wasn't detect on one so had to hard reset it :( [19:26] s/detect/detected [19:26] hehe slackpkg aint super running on a 300mhz cyrix based openbrick with nfsroot :) [19:26] juice2: I see lol its good to get up and walk some times :) [19:26] all to often [19:27] 300 ft of corridor [19:27] specktater (n=speck@adsl-76-238-129-102.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] juice2: Haha I know what you mean, try to figure out a network jack 450ft away. I walked back and forth at least 10 times haha I was sick of being in that place. [19:29] plus I was in vegas last week a got enough walking for a month [19:29] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (devel) (IRC client for Emacs)" [19:29] had blisters on my feet after walking one night for 1hr and 10 min [19:29] because I had dressy shoes on [19:30] lf4 nice [19:30] juice2: Oh :o not nice at all. [19:30] yeah my feet are all better now [19:30] it does include the source :/ [19:30] with my regualr shoes on it didn't really rub the blisters [19:31] so that was a good thing [19:31] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [19:32] deco: if you would read the script already, there is a variable for excludes [19:32] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Nick change: masterx831 -> Masterx831 [19:33] antiwire: can i still exclude it even if im downloading already ? [19:34] ... [19:34] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:36] are you sure you want to use Slackware current and not just wait for 13? [19:36] antiwire: i really want to use kde4 [19:36] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] why have we had to wait for so long for all dists to move onto kde 4? [19:37] KidneyBeans: not all have waited [19:37] It's and rsync script and puts everything in /home/ftp/pub/Linux/Slackware. If you kill it and change the arguments it will pick up where it left off [19:38] how do you get an xml of all the latest linux packages, like seen on distrowatch.com? [19:39] antiwire: so it's save to kill it and exlude source/ and start it again where left off right ? [19:39] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.110.199) joined ##slackware. [19:40] have anyone tryed out this cacheFS in 2.6.30 for nfs ? [19:41] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: "leaving" [19:41] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [19:41] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:41] hey, which stricticaly necessary directories does linux system need to run? meaning you can not partition out. [19:42] specktater (n=speck@adsl-76-238-129-102.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Quit" [19:42] ask Quagmire [19:42] huh? [19:43] there are no unimportant directories on a Linux system [19:43] Pig_Pen: i meant , to be in the root ( / ) [19:43] hmm /dev/ and /proc are worthless not needed [19:43] im trying to add source to the exclude variable but no luck [19:44] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: Client Quit [19:44] for instance, I can make a saparete File sytem for the /home , but I cannot do for /lib [19:45] I'd like to know all the ones we cant saparete from the / [19:46] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [19:46] you can do /usr /var /tmp /home /boot (i have seen those done that way_ [19:46] I use a partition for /boot / and /home [19:47] I used to do a /usr but no longer do [19:47] but i am erroring on the side of caution and only giving known working examples [19:47] antiwire: reading tutorial.. lol.. 30min for tutorial and 15 to build a package any other suggestions? lol. but if i want to maintain being a "slacker" well i'll do it. [19:47] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] ... [19:47] Pig_Pen: yeah, I'd like something more explanatory [19:47] personally i only do /home and /usr [19:47] wd_: I'm done [19:47] antiwire: http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script [19:47] thanks [19:47] yes thank you, I've read it [19:47] only reason I do the /home seperate now I got tired of backing up data to reinstall [19:48] and then having to recopy it back over [19:48] you are referring to mounting some directories in separate disk partitions Family_guy ? [19:48] Pig_Pen: that is right. [19:49] then the only known ones to be done like that are /boot /home /usr /tmp /var [19:49] i just do /home and /usr [19:49] and i make a swap partition but that goes without saying [19:51] that reminds a while back I had a system kept locking up a lot somehow finally noticed the swap entry was missing from fstab [19:51] can i make a /etc apart of / with its onw file system? [19:51] so when firefox got loaded up it would kill all the ram [19:52] put the swap entry in the fstab and fixed all my crashes :) [19:52] well getting close to go home [19:52] later [19:53] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [19:54] i excluded source and my current dvd finished at 986mb [19:55] something went wrong ? [19:55] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:57] john_dee (n=id@89.179.29.82) left irc: "link closed" [20:00] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [20:00] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) joined ##slackware. [20:02] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@187.10.168.68) left irc: "cya" [20:04] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left irc: [20:06] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:12] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] BP{k}, yeap.. the original one [20:12] BP{k}, without any changes [20:12] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) joined ##slackware. [20:12] LnxSlck: /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa [20:13] BP{k}, thanks.. and if i want one from a slackware mirror? can i find it there? [20:14] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) left irc: Client Quit [20:14] yes. [20:15] what's the command to see what processes are using a device, again? [20:15] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) joined ##slackware. [20:15] top? [20:15] ps -ef [20:15] ? [20:15] LnxSlck: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/x/x11-skel/scripts/xorg.conf-vesa [20:15] oh x11-skel [20:15] i was looking in x11 [20:16] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] sorry, processes that are accessing a file. thought it was lsof. for some reason my /dev/dsp has stopped working [20:16] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:16] Nick change: obnauticus_ -> obnauticus [20:17] BP{k}, thanks [20:17] ah, it was fuser. stil no help though. [20:22] what the fuck. it was fuser -v /dev/snd/*. but the app that was hogging my sound device, preventing other apps from accessing it? [20:22] any guesses? [20:22] at what point would you suggest xpdf? [20:22] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] 'ucking hell. [20:23] lsmod [20:23] oops [20:23] /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: sh 2983 F.... xpdf [20:23] /dev/snd/timer: sh 2983 f.... xpdf [20:23] why oh why. [20:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [20:24] why is xpdf accessing the sound device? [20:24] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [20:25] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] that's my question. or at least was. [20:26] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:26] yesyes, pdf playing music? [20:27] eat your hearts out adobe reader [20:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:34] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] has someone built a tgz of chrome for slack? [20:35] as someone i mean alienBOB or rworkman [20:35] lol [20:36] yuck, why? [20:36] b0tn3t (n=void@173-10-121-181-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] oh hai [20:36] please don't hack me [20:37] "xcb_lock.c assertion failed" for one free internet, who knows the root cause? [20:37] Action: fire|bird hacks thrice`. I'z in your pcz stealing your filez. [20:37] thrice`, don't you like chrome? [20:37] b0tn3t: on -current? [20:37] thrice`: yes [20:37] LnxSlck: get anywhere with that keyboard issue? [20:37] b0tn3t: what are you doing, building a package? [20:37] fire|bird, no.. still no deadkeys working after boot [20:38] trying to run fceu (nes emulator) [20:38] LnxSlck: wow, that's been a nagging issue for a few days now. :P [20:38] did you download someone's package for fceu? [20:38] i used src2pkg on the sources [20:38] fire|bird, yes. i solve the problem, but not for a permanent way [20:38] it sounds like fceu needs re-compiling for the big xcb update that took place in -current [20:38] LnxSlck: mm, not tried it on linux [20:39] thrice`, i was just wondering.. i use firefox [20:39] AND, since it's 32-bit only, I probably won't bother [20:40] thrice`, you running slack64? [20:40] yep [20:40] how is it going for you? [20:40] damn xmen origins was gay [20:40] only the end was cool [20:40] a closed source, 32-bit only app from google doesn't appeal much to me [20:41] thrice`: what app are we on about? [20:41] thrice`.. [20:41] chromium [20:41] thrice`, maybe they'll make an 64 version [20:41] thrice`: it's open source :P [20:41] is CDFS in Slackware or SBOpkg yet? [20:41] one other question also, qingy and splashy both tell me i need to configure my framebuffer, using default kernel and lilo with vga=791...am i missing anything else? [20:41] and according to them it's not 64-bit clean because they're too lazy [20:41] :P [20:41] NthDegree: but they only release binaries, or? [20:41] oh, ok :> [20:41] thrice`: they release source too [20:42] thrice`, dont talk if you dont know what's going on with the world [20:42] apparently it could be trivial to make it work XD [20:42] I guess not :( [20:42] Chromium is the open source Google Chrome btw [20:42] Google Chrome is like the official Firefox binaries :P [20:42] and don't stomp on mah trademarks :P [20:43] i'm testing arora... seems good [20:43] higuita, what's that? [20:43] arora=webkit browser in QT [20:44] ok [20:44] I like arora also, for a webkit browser [20:44] well guys [20:44] see you tomorrow [20:44] i just wish they implement a flashblock... damn flash [20:45] Just use Firefox if you like Chrome :P [20:45] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10674 <-- Chromifox! [20:46] I mean... hell yeah :D [20:46] btw I think that addon violates Mozilla's trademarks to hell [20:46] i'll screeny to show XD [20:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:48] http://i29.tinypic.com/29ak2s.jpg <-- and they bitched at Debian? [20:48] lol [20:48] that free internet offer is still dangling..... ;p [20:50] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] now I need a chrome look skin for opera :$ [20:51] NthDegree: you mean like this: http://techie-buzz.com/opera/download-google-chrome-skin-for-opera.html [20:52] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-92-91.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [20:53] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [20:53] according to kernel .config, framebuffer should be working, i do get that odd looking animal with a beak during boot-up, but qingy is complaining that framebuffer is not configured properly [20:53] also, there is some kind of food or something underneath my keyboard, how to fix plz [20:54] fire|bird: yeah but with tabs on top [20:54] xD [20:54] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.203.5.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:54] NthDegree: Bah, don't complain. :P [20:55] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [20:55] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:55] fire|bird: firefox > opera cause it can totally replicate chrome :P [20:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-185-186.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:55] NthDegree: you mean above the address bar? [20:56] no.. totally on top xD [20:56] i'll SS a firefox session :P [20:57] NthDegree: I have chrome on the laptop, I just looked and know what you mean now. :P [20:57] fire|bird, enchiladas for dinner woot [20:57] http://i25.tinypic.com/2rw6ars.png [20:57] http://imgur.com/6zjNO.jpgH [20:57] nix_chix0r: \o/ [20:57] he's cookin:D [20:58] nix_chix0r: with green sauce ? :P [20:58] he puts green chilies in it thats all he tells me [20:58] not allowed to look [20:58] Dominian: owned [20:58] :P [20:58] hehe [20:59] NthDegree: Those tabs aren't in the same spot as chrome itself. In chrome they are on what would usually be the title bar. :P [20:59] nix_chix0r: i can make an awesome enchelada casserole with fritos corn chips & hamburger mixed with chrorizo sausage [20:59] oh, and anchelada sause [20:59] Action: nix_chix0r explodes [20:59] fire|bird: except on a Linux-native copy they are below the title bar ;-p [20:59] yo all [20:59] RipVanWinkle, that sounds pwnage [20:59] fire|bird: replacing the whole window is a win32-only job [20:59] xD [20:59] :P [20:59] its mouth watering good [21:00] it made me explode thinking of it [21:00] nix_chix0r, do you want to know what is in it? [21:00] NthDegree: I'll ss my opera in a sec. [21:00] its probably made out of frogs and kittens [21:00] lol [21:00] lol [21:01] Well if you have eaten cheap chinese then you probably have eaten cat and dog. So far it passes my taste test :P [21:01] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [21:02] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.52.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] DeiBellum, i never said there is anything wrong with that, people around the world commonly eat frogs and kittens, maybe they eat them because they are like bacon, everything tastes better when you add some [21:02] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [21:03] do we have any black slackers? [21:03] before i would let myself starve to death i would gladly eat bugs [21:03] edman007, I never said you did. I have had frog and enjoy it. Cats on the other hand... I have not knowingly had it [21:05] edman007, nope it taste good so i'm coool [21:07] Action: danc3 has had monkey. Grilled, and on a stick. Wonderful. [21:08] hi nix_chix0r :) [21:08] monkey is one thing i would not eat...too many nasty diseases from that [21:08] nah... cooked well done. [21:08] i had swamp lizard (alligator) [21:08] sup KidneyBeans [21:09] nommuch [21:10] :/ [21:10] For a real treat, you can try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(egg) . I have had some (one bite), whilst extremely drunk, on the streets in Olongapo, P.I. [21:11] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.116.43.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Link again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(egg) [21:11] danc3, where are you from? [21:11] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] they don't have normal food where you live? [21:11] greetings and salutations [21:11] andarius, hi [21:11] salutations edman007 [21:11] edman007: I live in FL now, originally from New England... had that weird stuff during my years in the Navy... ;) [21:12] hey danc3 where in FL? [21:12] Panhandle [21:12] I'm in Tallahassee [21:12] what is considered "normal food" is a cultural thing, what is normal for you might be strange and/or repulsive to someone else [21:12] I'm about 3 hours west of Tally.... ;) [21:12] aha, Pensacola [21:12] fire|bird: i'm checking out the Chrome source now :D [21:12] GF just told me that when you drive by Cape Canaveral GPS seems jammed. [21:12] heh, ya [21:12] Action: NthDegree will make a slackpkg for it :D [21:13] danc3, well i never left the Continental US :P [21:13] rhys, next time i'm down there I will check it out [21:13] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] edman007: I had some great times in those overseas ports... ;) but always nice to be back home. [21:14] USN (ret.) now [21:14] DeiBellum: yea. Thought it was kind of interesting. [21:15] NthDegree: http://imagebin.org/58956 [21:16] fire|bird: how'd you ditch the menu bar? [21:16] question, is it advisable to modify the rc.6 script to clean out the /tmp folder? [21:16] NthDegree: That's a feature in Opera 10 snapshots. :D [21:16] rc.local.shutdown is probably better DeiBellum [21:17] i thought it was rc.local_shutdown [21:17] NthDegree: It takes the menu bar out and makes it accessible via the icon on the tab bar at the far left. [21:17] Well im guessing by the fact that there is no file just make sure it matches what is being executed [21:17] fire|bird: Opera 10 still use QT3? :D [21:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.44.107) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:17] nope, qt4 [21:18] damn [21:18] there are still qt3 builds available as well. [21:18] rc.6:if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.local_shutdown ]; then [21:18] fire|bird: do you prefer opera over firefox ? [21:18] rc.local_shutdown [21:18] deco: yeah [21:18] weird, i don't seem to have that file [21:19] Guest69902 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [21:19] fire|bird: i would use it but i need something like adblock [21:19] oops, yes :< create it! [21:19] lol [21:19] deco: There is. adsweep :) [21:19] fire|bird: they do a Slackware download :D [21:19] that's the point of those files, so that you don't need to edit / manage core RC files [21:19] similar anyway. [21:19] fire|bird: oh nice ill give it a try then :P [21:20] dang, this last attempt to get the laptop image working failed too. [21:20] are there any black slackers? i mean african american ones [21:20] :/ [21:20] bbl [21:21] I would definitely say that's your queue to "exit" [21:21] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [21:21] Dominian: negative, I will succeed and will not quit. :) [21:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@229.7.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [21:22] lets make a list of what ##slackware is not. [21:22] rhys: normal [21:22] ;) [21:22] ##slackware is not a place to pick up chicks. [21:22] *cough* [21:23] how about we don't make a list and just wait for ops to ban people. the list will create itself [21:23] wsp4th (n=wperry@c-75-66-183-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:23] How about we leave ##slackware as it is and just ban when people act like dicks? :D [21:23] do ops even exist? slackware has generally been kept on topic by its users. [21:23] O quite. I just thought it should be mentioned. [21:24] rhys: alienB0B, Alan_H1cks are ops [21:24] we should try to throw it off topic [21:24] We normally go off topic [21:24] antiwire: I have a networking switch, would it be possible to use dd over that? I mean, run a live cd on the laptop, run dd, and have it save the image onto my desktop over the network? [21:24] Topic -> Topical -> Tropical -> Bikinis! [21:24] it's why ##slackware is not normal :P [21:24] lol [21:24] fire|bird: yes [21:24] fire|bird: use nc [21:24] nc | dd [21:24] oops, nc + dd [21:24] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:25] hey! [21:25] antiwire: Hmm ok, that would be faster than usb. :P [21:25] fire|bird: dd | nc, though if you want something a bit nicer, partimage or clonezilla live cds [21:25] rhys: I've tried them. [21:25] oh. [21:25] fire|bird: it's a donny moment [21:26] antiwire: Is there much to setting that up in linux, the network. I've never done networking of any sort on linux. :/ [21:26] lol [21:26] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) joined ##slackware. [21:27] fire|bird: sup [21:27] fire|bird: no? its easy as pie. even if you don't have DHCP [21:27] y0 Cann0n, how's it going? [21:27] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:27] antiwire: Hmm, those first things (in step one) may help out. [21:27] http://www.softpanorama.org/VM/conversion_of_harddrive_partition_into_virtual.shtml [21:28] fire|bird: the "proper" ways are different, and I'm not even sure what slackwares proper way is. /etc/rc.d/network.conf? bah. [21:28] just starting eFights on skate forums [21:28] lol [21:28] ....skate forums? I hate skateboarders. :| [21:28] rhys: well, rc.inet1.conf, but yes, that's the central spot [21:29] rhys: even longboarders? [21:29] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-12-114.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Cann0n: if they even remotely attempt anything "punk" yes. Murder murder murder. The irony is too great for me to allow to go unpunished. [21:30] you can also dd over ssh [21:30] but if you're on a secured lan that's not needed really [21:30] rhys: hell nah. i skate to ride, not to be apart of some punk bitch culture [21:30] antiwire: yea. even with the blowfish cypher, the overhead is decent. [21:30] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-71-49.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] most the people on the forum hate the regular skateboards.. but most of them are pretty stupid. [21:31] ok? [21:32] ok, thanks antiwire [21:32] This will be nicer than having to friggen transfer over usb a bunch of times. [21:32] Cann0n: then I can refrain from killing you with your board. I had to follow girls into a HotTopic the other day. The greeter said she liked my tophat, and that I should look at their hats. I just stared straight ahead, and politely said, "No. If I had my way, everything would be on fire. I'm staying right here to prevent that." [21:33] oh noes [21:33] b0tn3t (n=void@173-10-121-181-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:34] antiwire: ssh provides rather significant overhead in comparison to nc. [21:34] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-38-55.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] rhys: if you do decide to torch HotTopics, I will join you. For I am very against trendy people and fads... and I really really really hate those pants with all the straps hanging off of them... a lot. [21:34] Like from 40MB/s to 15. [21:34] Cann0n: I just hate that they call them bondage pants. I -have- bondage pants, and those are NOT bondage pants. [21:35] rhys: thank you explaining that to me. [21:35] ... [21:35] Cann0n: that's why i ate apple :P [21:35] .. [21:35] i hate* [21:35] deco, agreed! [21:35] i really needed you to clarify at, especially since I asked for clarification...oh wait... [21:35] :-D [21:36] Apple is worst than MS in my opinion [21:36] antiwire: sorry? [21:36] I hope you see the sun some day in the darkness [21:36] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-92-91.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [21:36] Now wait. Apple, for all of their madness and "fashion" does provide a better product and superior support for their products. [21:36] Expensive things dont mean good. [21:37] Cann0n: yeah!, at least i can afford a pc :P [21:37] lol [21:37] Expensive doesn't mean good, and the apple tax is ridiculous. BUT osx is a much better operating systems with a much more professional stable of applications than Windows [21:37] come to me, i will tell you about the secret of the sun [21:38] I recommend Macs to all clients who can afford them. I do make it clear that I am only recommending it because they are too dumb to run Ubuntu. [21:38] lol [21:38] lol [21:38] and ubuntu is pretty easy to use >.< [21:38] I'd recommend Windows over OS X [21:38] superGear: never. [21:38] Apple is more evil [21:38] I recommend Slackware every time... :O [21:39] ??? They both are greedy corporations. Normal users cannot keep windows running. [21:39] Apple wants to control you, MS just wants to control what you use [21:39] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016331.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [21:39] Hey [21:39] MS started that bing.com... "Makes choices for you!" [21:39] superGear: OSX is locked down (annoying to power users) specifically because users are generally too stupid to take care of their OS. [21:40] bisco (n=bisco@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:40] They have jobs, kids, and they don't have time to learn about anti-virus and the millions of ways of infection on Windows. [21:40] rhys: their OS is fine it's their license (EULA) i don't like [21:40] does anyone happen to know of any screipts that will translate the ppm files in the kernels /drivers/video/logo directory into their usable C arrays? [21:40] brb [21:40] apple is still the choice of professional designers etc [21:40] scripts* [21:40] you search Linux and it says "Don't Use Linux! Installing it will delete all of your data!" [21:40] korg815` (n=user@bas8-london14-1176471236.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:40] superGear: and which one of your clients has ever had a problem with a EULA? or even knows what a EULA is? [21:41] none [21:41] i still don't like anything apple [21:41] be it ipod to their comps [21:41] That seems to me as ignorant as "I HATE M$!" [21:41] no [21:42] maybe [21:42] i hate how the iPod handles mp3s [21:42] but i still dislike Apple ;P [21:42] they have their place [21:42] i'd rather mount it as /dev/sda1 and just copy the mp3s over [21:42] just not in my home [21:42] lol [21:42] superGear: I hate Apple Inc. with a passion, more so than I hate Microsoft. I agree. But their products are not as evil as the company is [21:43] nah. they have good technology. just it's all... closed and stupified [21:43] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [21:43] iPods run RoxBox. I don't evaluate any technology except including how I can hack it. [21:44] Usually to "Bigger Battery" "Bigger Screen" "Erase OS; Run Linux." [21:44] http://xkcd.com/501/ <- eula [21:45] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:45] anyone have an opinion of Amanda vs Bacula? [21:45] as far as software goes, I'd die before I gave up using linux. it's part of who I am I guess. [21:46] Cann0n: sorry, you're going to have to switch to Windows Me [21:46] Cann0n: once again i'm not particular. I just want the most hackable tech in the world. [21:46] which yes, means Linux right now. but some day in the future it might now [21:46] rhys that would be yourself. [21:46] not [21:46] hack yourself! [21:47] Quiznos: hell yes. I hacked my programming, erased that "Christianity" lock in firmware and rewrote it with "Atheist Skeptic." Much better mods from the community. [21:47] i hack Gawd :) [21:47] :D [21:47] pff; coward [21:47] fire|bird: did you get it going yet? [21:47] Nah, I just hate vendor lockin. [21:47] bt i do comprehend that it takes for faith for an unbeliever to believe what they do than what faith I have to build up [21:48] antiwire: not yet, just got the switch connected and have the laptop starting a live cd. [21:48] superGear: that is why i went to Linux. lol. got a computer that came with winME and i reinstalled about once a month because the entire system would lag so much, it just was unusable. [21:48] Subway > Quiznos [21:48] Then I have to read about what to do next. :P [21:48] blazing saddles is highlarious [21:48] fire|bird: pm? [21:48] antiwire: sure [21:49] Nah. Quiznos is delicious. We need more humerous crazies who aren't voting to have us atheists killed. :D [21:49] mel brooks, as jewish indian, lol [21:49] cyberpm [21:49] danc3: what year and what rating? (or were you O material?) [21:49] rhys i actually comprehend God's plan for you well. [21:49] boy are you gonna be surprised [21:49] alisonken1home: retired 2006, ETCM (SW) [21:49] Quiznos: Mel Brooks is one of the few people who can make a blatantly racist movie good - he slams everyone [21:49] no religion! [21:49] omg the fart seen [21:49] superGear: if I ever came across a computer with winME, id destroy it and have a long talk with it's owner as to why i did what i did. [21:49] alisonken1home yep!!! [21:49] yea yea. [21:50] lol fah-ni scene [21:50] lol [21:50] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-38-55.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] Mongo!!! [21:50] danc3: cool. I could never get past e6 - spent too much time on equipment and not enough time wit management (DS) [21:51] s/wit/with/ (wireless keyboard) [21:51] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:51] alisonken1home: heh, yeah took me a long time for Chief, then the last two came quickly. Used to work with DS's on the NTDS systems a little. [21:51] UYK-44's I think? [21:52] or UYK-20's maybe [21:52] dunno [21:52] yeah - the 642's and 1218's were fun to play with. 44's were cds and on destoyers [21:52] uyk-20's were radio message handling and misile control [21:52] going to reboot [21:52] I still cant find it [21:52] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:52] ahh yeah... This was on a carrier (Abe) [21:52] ah [21:53] Action: danc3 is a plankowner [21:53] danc3: UB-40? [21:53] Cann0n: don't know what that is [21:53] I was on cruisers - carriers typically had ntds with cp-642's since their primary system was traffic control [21:53] a joke. lol. [21:53] Cann0n: hehe [21:53] Cann0n: :) long time ago [21:54] lol [21:55] danc3: and I retired just when DS's were force converted to FC (combat-related nec) or RM (non-combat related nec) [21:55] yeah... there's been a lot of that in recent years [21:55] so I've been hearing [21:55] SM/QM merged to QM only [21:55] RM is now IT [21:56] at least they're trying to keep it current [21:56] yeah [21:56] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] whoa - IT rating? wow [21:56] some of it makes sense actually [21:56] yup [21:56] missed that one [21:56] radio and networking stuff [21:56] amazing how far the arpanet has gotten, then :) [21:56] hehe [21:57] I remember when the alohanet started it [21:57] lol [21:57] I remember sneakernet and Zenith 248 PC's... ;) [21:57] hah [21:57] rhys but you have heard of him and you do know his son exists. [21:57] oops [21:57] heh [21:57] wrong window amigo [21:58] my first PC was a clone that used a shift register for the keyboard interface [21:58] same window sans tab [21:58] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [21:58] ugh [21:58] that's my story and i'm stickin to it. [21:58] story? [21:58] whats going on? [21:58] I think a Zenith 248 (very common in the Navy for years) was a 80286 IBM AT clone, was a workhorse for a long time. [21:58] i keepo missing the tab key [21:58] and then there was the z248's that were built to milspec for shipboard use [21:59] yes, that's what I'm referring to [21:59] heavy bastards [21:59] how old are you guys ? :P [21:59] to say the least. I had to fix a few of them [21:59] 49 here [21:59] deco: I retired from the navy after 21 years in 1996 - and joined the navy senior year in high school. give you a hint? :) [22:00] rhys1 (n=rhys@dialup-4.131.47.226.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] 22 [22:00] alisonken1home: :P [22:00] 21 here [22:00] <3 alisonken1home [22:00] id go out with him but the man is taken [22:00] alisonken1home: sounds like you got about 3 years on me [22:00] ifeel like a baby here :P [22:00] danc3: close enough - 2 years [22:00] <---- SHS '78 [22:01] Bell HS 1975 [22:01] cool [22:01] s/1975/1976/ (BiCentenial graduation certificate) [22:01] yo [22:01] cool [22:01] dont mean to be off topic... but i'm fucking starving! [22:02] Action: missyjane is joyed and saddened at the same time [22:02] Cann0n: Go get something to eat. :P [22:02] but i'm already sitting down... [22:02] missyjane: why? My dauhter is only a couple of years older tha you [22:02] *sigh* how laziness consumed me... [22:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Cann0n: well, I'm waiting to head to work in a few hours [22:03] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.72) joined ##slackware. [22:03] alisonken1home: are they hiring? [22:03] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) joined ##slackware. [22:03] Action: missyjane knocks alisonken1homeunconscious, bring him into a private place for brainwashing, reminds him he doesnt have a family but me [22:04] not sure - but they may have something in tech support emails [22:04] Nick change: ClaudioM -> Claud101M [22:04] Cann0n: ^^^ [22:04] missyjane: take a big hammer, my head's been knocked too many times on the ship [22:04] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] D: [22:05] :) [22:05] do guys mostly use irssi ? [22:05] i will work for minimum wage... as long as they dont drug test me... [22:06] heh [22:06] deco: I use Xchat [22:06] although I have certainly used irssi some too [22:07] Cann0n: http://dreamhost.com/jobs.html <-- non-tech support jobs I think are mainly placeholders right now [22:07] irssi is the shizzle my brizzle... or what ever those city folks say [22:07] yeah xchat is the best for a gui client and irssi for cli :-D [22:08] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] almost got slackware -current installed to a vbox [22:10] i like both, just irssi is lighter on my cpu [22:10] xchat has like, too many options i never used. [22:12] Action: missyjane slaps juice [22:13] oh no. IRC needs a virtual version of pepper spray for women. :\ [22:13] just a suggestion [22:13] yeah... [22:14] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:15] and another for people who wear whatever the hell bondage pants are :P [22:15] just a suggestion [22:15] chopp: well then you would be gibing those people a enjoyment. [22:16] ahahhahaha. [22:16] korg815` (n=user@bas8-london14-1176471236.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [22:16] don't ask me how I know. [22:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.116.43.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:18] former wearer ? [22:18] and there is a newer pepper spray that is much better then the stuff civs can buy. [22:18] turns the person orange. [22:19] depending on your bondage kink clothing gets in the way [22:19] sweet jaundice spray [22:19] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:19] pidgins irc isnt too bad if you need gui and xchat is too much [22:20] add another vote for irssi. [22:20] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:21] pidgin is free on windows too [22:21] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:21] but windows isnt free [22:21] here is what bondage pants are supposed to be. http://images.sextoysex.com/CNVGF/CNVGF-119.JPG (SFW) [22:21] I have gotten so used to irssi that when on a windows machine I still log into a linux box to run irssi [22:22] lol [22:22] jakeday (i=1000@71-88-202-87.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] heh [22:23] if i built cross platform software i would do like xchat = linux version free & windows version $$$ (make the windows users pay for the development of both platforms [22:24] haha - that' [22:24] s actually a cool idea [22:24] agreed [22:24] RipVanWinkle: what do you think they do now? [22:25] finally I swear the install takes forever anymore :P [22:25] Xchat isn't free for windows [22:25] Dominian: ah, to some extent, but in such cases the "free" version is the red-headed stepchild [22:25] Dominian, there is a free version [22:25] dive: Yes.. I know [22:25] which is built from sources.. but the fact remains.. Xchat isn't technically free for windows [22:25] it seems that rsync-slack-current script is re-downloading much... there must have been many updates since yesterday [22:26] Dominian: yes it is free for Windows [22:26] NthDegree: XChat itself is not [22:26] http://www.xchat.org/windows/ [22:26] Read [22:26] Dominian: That's a binary copy [22:26] its still xchat [22:27] dchmelik: mine just went straight into building the iso [22:27] wicked framebuffer image [22:27] There was a new changelog yesterday [22:27] lol [22:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:27] Dominian: that's a shareware binary copy lol [22:28] Dominian: that's like saying RHEL isn't free [22:28] whatever you say NthDegree [22:28] I'm not going to argue with it [22:28] It's GPLed and silverex.org offers a free up-to-date binary copy [22:29] I know [22:29] Still missing the point. [22:30] hmm no more recommend user groups when adding auser? [22:30] i don't want to have to type them all in :P [22:30] juice, up arrow do anything? [22:30] nope :( [22:31] even at the second prompt? [22:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:32] well i out [22:32] doh [22:32] it's after [22:32] ima try to get eLaid by some eHoes [22:32] figured it out [22:33] Cann0n: use the eSkateboard to the eFace. works great. [22:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:35] yeah terrapin at 2nd prompt it does [22:35] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:37] jakeday (i=1000@71-88-202-87.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:37] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:38] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [22:40] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:44] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:44] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] Nick change: Claud101M -> ClaudioM [22:46] Does anyone know for what reasons the application 'kbuildsycoca' hangs during first start of KDE after a clean install? [22:48] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:55] hey, anybody have a rough estimate for how much room I should allocate for a local mirror of a single given slackware version, say slackware-current ? [22:55] 3gb+ [22:57] du -h --max-depth=1 /home/slackware/slackware-current (as of an hour ago): 3.6G [22:57] du -h --max-depth=1 /home/slackware/slackware64-current (as of an hour ago): 3.7G [22:58] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:59] excellent, thanks guys [22:59] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Anybody use Swiftfox? [23:01] Is it much faster than Firefox 3.5? Should I bother? [23:01] test it. [23:02] Is it a safe guess that L series is only needed if running a GUI? [23:03] no [23:03] L is required [23:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:04] Thats what I thoguth Quiznos. So even if I unchecked it the required parts would be checked? Or should I leave everything and select menu? [23:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] hey hitest [23:11] hi fire|bird:) [23:11] anyone know of a good site or book to learn php ? [23:12] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] dkdkdkmd [23:13] sorry [23:14] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:15] is it possible to use rsync to direcly update my 12.2 installation to -current? [23:16] snorks: no [23:17] alright [23:17] slackpkg [23:18] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.16.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:18] http://www.slackpkg.org/documentation.html [23:20] what is that console IM client someone mentioned works in irssi? something like 'bitblit'.... [23:20] bitlbee [23:20] k, i will download it now [23:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:21] Slackbuilds says it does not have it [23:22] oh, i see it is probably an irssi plugin [23:22] if you are on 12.2 i recomend you look again [23:23] andarius: if i added a -current as mirror and did a 'slackpkg upgrade', would that upgrade my packages to -current packages? [23:24] snorks: two things... [23:24] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] 1) I never do upgrades so i am not one to ask [23:24] 2) you should follow --> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [23:25] upgrading and updating are not the same [23:25] if you simply wish to keep your install up to date slackpkg is great [23:25] andarius: cheers. (i can assure you i googled with the wrong keywords) [23:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:25] snorks: you will break your system doing that [23:26] deco: thanks. to be honest what i was really looking for was that UPGRADE.TXT document. I didn't think to check there [23:27] snorks: yeah read it [23:27] slKIvs (n=ivan@168.95.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:30] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-71-49.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] rhys1 (n=rhys@dialup-4.131.47.226.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [23:32] rhys is kinda funi in a secular kind of way. LOL [23:32] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:32] any files available for DCC? [23:32] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:33] well i typed 'bitblee' 'bit blee,' 'bit-blee' into slackbuilds.org... nothing.... [23:34] _ohm (n=research@pool-173-65-12-2.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] dchmelik: try bitlbee [23:34] uuu http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/bitlbee/ [23:35] next time just type bee [23:35] thanks, hehe [23:35] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:36] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:36] i bet they are waiting to do 13 until most Slackbuilds are ready [23:37] dchmelik: no. wrong. [23:37] 13 is waiting till a) pat finishes his vacation b) its ready [23:37] DC, DC, DC dchmelik what did you break now? :) [23:38] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [23:38] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:38] dchmelik ? [23:39] nothing today [23:39] ok good [23:39] heh [23:39] now stand up and go out [23:39] back away from the kbd [23:39] though i changed my root's ~ a few days ago to my user's home... :) [23:39] actually i have to go out to garden [23:39] dont do that. [23:39] whatcha growin? [23:40] hes growing thc [23:40] well that's his risk [23:40] a green tough leafed plant with about five long jagged leaves [23:40] capitalise a acronym! [23:40] heh [23:41] mugwort [23:41] ok [23:41] what locale? [23:41] a lot of vegetables [23:41] Washington state [23:41] ok [23:41] central WA [23:41] how's their nutrient content? [23:41] nods [23:41] mugwort is about like lettuce [23:41] ok [23:41] how easily could you hide thc among other similar plants? [23:41] but it is as tough as kale [23:42] kale is tuf? [23:42] you could probably hide it easily among mugwort [23:42] ok [23:42] most kale is tough [23:42] never thought so [23:42] i do need more phyto* tho [23:42] ok, i better go out before it gets dark [23:42] later [23:43] kale is pretty small in comparison [23:43] in stature? [23:43] to thc? [23:43] yes. it's not that tall [23:43] ah [23:43] i wanna swap files [23:44] dcc me someone [23:44] heh [23:44] kale is probably 2 feet tall at most [23:44] nods [23:44] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.37.244) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:45] btw guys thc isn't a plant... [23:46] it's a compound [23:46] its whats in the plant [23:46] Good night, what's best for a dedicated firewall/router ? use the cable modem as router or bridge? [23:46] Family_guy: bridge, with a pc gives you the most flexibility [23:46] s/night/evening [23:47] Family_guy : as opposed to what? define 'best' [23:47] Ok [23:47] best = moar bettar [23:48] Ok in terms of less work... [23:48] Family_guy: leave the modem as is [23:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] cuz in my understanding using a modem as router you'd have to doulbe configure your network ( modem + firewall/router) [23:48] Family_guy : router [23:49] slKIvs (n=ivan@168.95.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] Family_guy: most are setup to work out of the box. [23:49] so in terms of work, thats no work. [23:49] Family, the smart answer to you is that these days a lot of modfems are quitre flexible some even are embedded linux machines meaning the stateful packet filtering is as flexible as on a PC dedicated as a firewall [23:49] if you use your cable modem as a router, you can hook up as many devices as you want to it, and you won't have to dick with them [23:49] the way i do it, and recommend, is bridging the modem, and doing the ppp on a dedicated pc. [23:50] i do it the same way, but i don't recommend it :) [23:51] spook: but in that case you'd need a script to check internet conectivity every 15 sec for instance [23:51] In my experiences with bridged vs routed mode on AT&& dynamic DSL I use bridged mode. Bridged mode gives you the ability to the receive the WAN IP on your own gear which means you will want to build or buy or own router for NAT. Routed mode gives the modem itself the live IP and then the modem does the NAT for you. [23:51] for me, i have a static ip that comes free with my connection, so i run my webserver on it [23:51] AT&T** [23:51] Family_guy: actually, no. i use rp-pppoe which does all that junk for me. [23:52] My cable set is different; My cable modem acts essentially the same way as I described for bridged mode and that's it. I provide my own router and my router receives the live IP [23:52] endian firewall communiy edition [23:52] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [23:53] antiwire: unless you redirected all ports of you routed modem to the IP machine firewalled [23:53] awesome. new plex fixed the optical audio issues [23:53] spook: oh nice [23:53] you will still be working on it as it were a routed setup though and that is different than working on it as a bridged setup. [23:53] jigp (n=jigp@securabit/listener/jigp) joined ##slackware. [23:53] hello good noon [23:54] how to download the iso? ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Slackware/slackware-12.2/ [23:54] oooooh now i remember why when the place i managed changed ip, that the dns record i setup was still working [23:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:54] i didnt see .iso [23:54] i had setup an auto-updating script for it. [23:54] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:54] antiwire: I see, thanks for you opnion. [23:54] in routed mode, your gear is not going to be directly handed a live IP. the modem will be part of two subnets; the internet side and the LAN side. [23:54] taiwan is nearest to me [23:54] jigp: generally the iso is in Slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ or similar [23:54] in bridged mode, the modem does not route. [23:54] im using downthemall firefox [23:55] I hadnt seen that way, thats interesting antiwire [23:56] Family_guy : you asked for the 'easiest' - router mode would have been it :) [23:56] mwnn (n=user@59.96.56.118) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [23:56] the place i manage, the isp provides a box that does all the phone lines using voip, and provides net using a ptp link, 255.255.255.252 subnet. [23:56] ananke: yeah I know but knowlegde is always welcome. [23:57] Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well [23:57] argh. make up your mind [23:57] and don't forget to define 'best' [23:57] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] gtludwig (n=Nelson@189.114.203.5.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:58] It comes down to where and how you want to deal with the the live IP. bridged mode will give you a little more control over the "gateway" of your own network because you will actually be configuring a router that will sit between your LAN and the modem. Routed mode will be easier because the modem will do all of the work and probably has an interface already to go. [23:59] deco (i=deco@plox.tor.hu) left irc: "leaving" [23:59] My own preference is to always use bridged mode but I often just use routed mode when I go setup internet connections for people and they lack their own router. [00:00] --- Mon Aug 10 2009