[00:02] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [00:02] .ffmpeg.Slackbuild says: "ERROR: libmp3lame not found" [00:02] Not sure what to do about it... [00:02] ? [00:03] do you have LAME installed? [00:03] I have lame-3.97-i586-2gsb [00:04] Action: rirombo` just got a killer deal on a Canon Rebel XSi with kit lens plus a 50mm/1.8 lens and a vertical battery grip :D [00:04] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [00:04] Nick change: rirombo` -> rirombo [00:04] terry: Did you build ffmpeg after installing lame? [00:04] rirombo, what was the deal? [00:04] shonudo: $450 [00:04] i'm going to break your heart, rirombo... [00:04] Oh? [00:04] And so I have usr/lib/libmp3lame.la [00:04] i scored a canon 20d with lens for $250 [00:05] Action: wescotte needs a camera... soon [00:05] and usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 [00:05] Action: rirombo fail... [00:05] lol [00:05] shonudo: That's a nice deal indeed :) You win. I'm still pretty happy with this one. [00:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-26.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:06] rirombo, sounds like a nice score, all kidding aside [00:06] congrats! [00:06] I actually need to cancel an order from B&H Photo for a refurbished Nikon D40 w/ kit lens for $320 [00:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-15.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Thanks :) [00:06] terry: x86 or x86_64? [00:06] Anyhow, back on topic for me. Just wanted to share :D [00:06] x86 on this one. [00:07] terry: wheres lame from? gsb? [00:07] yes [00:07] are you invoking the SlackBuild as root? (su -) [00:10] sahko: Oh sorry... I do not have lame installed on this box, (I checked in an existing terminal that was ssh3d into another box) [00:10] great [00:10] terry: been there :) [00:11] BUT, was installing on this one to see what would happen. Was just trying to install on an x86_64 box that DID have lame installed and was getting same error. [00:11] cause usually people get other errors when not running the script as root and it would be weird if you got another one [00:12] terry: so ffmpeg doesnt build without lame? [00:12] DO I need lame or twolame? [00:12] jgeboski (jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left ##slackware. [00:12] lame [00:12] Ok... [00:13] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [00:13] well you can install twolame as well but it's not for mp3s.. [00:14] it appears to be for mp2s.. but is a replacement for lame in that it takes the same args and stuff.. [00:15] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:17] wescotte: Yes, I already have twolame [00:17] but, I'm now installing lame [00:17] tnx [00:17] terry: so ffmpeg doesnt build without lame? [00:17] sahko: Apparently not. [00:18] Action: sahko checks [00:18] ffmpeg can build w/o lame but the Slackbuild enables it by default.. [00:19] yeah its optional [00:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [00:20] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-15.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:21] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:22] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-15.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [00:25] fraktil_ (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.178) joined ##slackware. [00:28] Nick change: fraktil_ -> fraktil [00:29] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.7) joined ##slackware. [00:31] slackie_ (~x@bl15-120-199.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:34] terry, what version of gsb are you running? [00:35] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:40] gsb? [00:40] I don't know...?' [00:41] Where the hell did you get that lame package from, then? [00:41] slackbuilds.org [00:41] I have lame-3.97-i586-2gsb [00:41] They don't ship lame anymore, so you should switch to the sbo one I quess. [00:41] gsb-desktop-2.30.1-noarch-8gsb [inst=yes]: gsb-desktop (GNOME SlackBuild GNOME Desktop Metapackage) [00:42] I have lame-3.98.4-i486-1_SBo [00:42] Ok, cool. [00:42] (Slackware 13.1 here). [00:42] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.192.17) left irc: Changing host [00:42] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Cruciphix (~Cruciphix@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:43] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [00:43] But now I'm getting "./ffmpeg.SlackBuild: line 194: cd: /tmp/SBo/package-ffmpeg/usr/man: No such file or directory" [00:43] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-180.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:43] hahahaha [00:43] terry, did you "su -", do you ahve tetex installed? [00:43] You must. [00:43] tex [00:44] yes [00:44] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ffmpeg-slackbuilds-org-script-failure-819923/ [00:44] your exact problem [00:44] From the slackbuild readme: Make sure to run this script in a real root shell ("su -") and that you [00:44] have either tetex or texlive installed." [00:44] I can admit to screwing this up myself too. [00:44] terry: that forum is one to bookmark [00:44] :) [00:45] people still use bookmarks? in 2010? thats rather sad [00:45] oh look, sahko is being posh [00:45] :P [00:45] haha [00:46] sahko: are you referring to delicio.us or something like that? [00:46] or whatever thos ebookmakr sharing sites are [00:46] no im referring to the internet. its ubershite [00:47] but im gonna shut up now [00:47] it's so 1990s [00:47] installing texlive now. [00:47] roger [00:49] I just watched Moxie Marlinspike's talk from Blackhat 2009 and now I'm so paranoid. [00:49] :/ [00:49] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:50] texlive is a whopper! [00:50] With Cheese. [00:50] two all beef patties [00:50] Action: popl silences himself [00:50] Sezamee bunn. [00:50] Takes five files? [00:50] huh? [00:51] oh man now I want a whopper [00:51] you guys SUCK [00:51] ^ Lol. [00:51] Which talk was that? [00:52] texlive-20091107-extra.tar.xz & texlive-20091107-source.tar.xz & texlive-20091107-texmf.tar.xz & texi2html-1.82.tar.bz2 [00:52] Well, 4 actually. [00:52] Motoko-chan: the one on sslstrip [00:53] But texlive-20091107-texmf.tar.xz is 869M [00:53] that's a lotta-M [00:53] it's big [00:54] everythign together is over 1 GB [00:54] okeydokey [00:54] terry: if you have it you don't need tetex or tetex-doc [00:54] may have to take a knap [00:54] terry: if you use sbopkg it's easier to install it [00:55] <- lazy [00:55] sbopkg? [00:55] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:55] http://www.sbopkg.org/downloads.php [00:55] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-180.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] it's not officially supported here though [00:57] so we never had this chat [00:58] If anyone asks I will categorically deny that sbopkg (and Chess Griffin) even exist. [00:58] there's also #sbopkg for help [00:58] popl: Yea, looks interesting [00:58] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-186.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:59] I've been using it (I also helped fix a coupe of issues with it as well) [00:59] May try it not [00:59] May try it out [00:59] alisonken1lap: it's quirky but very useful [00:59] alisonken1lap: the controls are not consistent across the entire ui [00:59] quirky how? I haven't had any issues with it [01:00] I mean when you've got a list of results with the first letter as hotkey you can't use vim keys to navigate, for one [01:00] it's standard curses interface [01:00] I understand why of course [01:00] that's a quirk with ncurses, not sbopkg [01:01] I have only written one program in curses and that was with PyCurses. [01:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [01:02] although I guess I'm aware of some ncurses quirks from using different programs. [01:02] pop1, what's the guy talk about at blackhat that makes you paranoid [01:02] jeev: your mom [01:02] oh, ok [01:02] that's valid i guess [01:02] jeev: you should watch the talk [01:02] probably not [01:03] jeev: https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-dc-09/bh-dc-09-speakers.html#Marlinspike [01:03] you'll never bank online again [01:03] ah that's ok [01:03] good to know ! ;) [01:04] I'll still bank online, but I'll just watch better. [01:04] popl, as long as it doesn't say anything about porn [01:04] eh, it's not *that* scary. [01:04] My bank uses an EV cert too. [01:04] Motoko-chan: nobody watches all the time [01:04] Plus with Locationbar2, I can see the domain very clearly. [01:04] Motoko-chan: and most banks don't even show that they are posting to an https link [01:04] at least the sites I've visited [01:04] With my bank, password entry is on a secured page. [01:05] Not from unsecured. [01:05] "your browser is intended to provide you useful information about your secured experience" © [01:05] what bank uses an unsecured page ? [01:05] Plus they use an EV cert. Plus FF shows blue or green for secure. [01:05] are we talking about mitm ? [01:05] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-27.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] jeev, something like that. [01:05] jeev: it's a mitm attack [01:05] not something like that, it's a mitm attack :P [01:05] Action: Zbouby goes to work .. cheers. [01:05] essentially a lot of things boil down to mitm [01:05] wtf does it matter about banking online ? most of my accounts online only let me send 1k a day. i dont have wire on anything. [01:05] It's about a proxy that either uses its own SSL site, or is MitM wit an unsecure front-end. [01:06] I have alerts on my accounts when more than $75 moves in a single transaction. [01:06] I just don't keep money in my account. [01:06] I find that foils even the most persistent bandits. [01:06] :P [01:06] bankers? [01:06] teehee [01:07] I don't buy many high-ticket items, and only really get alerts on cash withdrawls and bill payments. [01:07] Motoko-chan: You do direct-deposit? [01:07] Plus I never use my check/atm card. [01:07] Yes, my paycheck is direct deposit. [01:07] The alerts are only for withdrawls. [01:07] I fear direct deposit. [01:07] Why? [01:08] Motoko-chan: The financial aid department at my university requires you to sign an agreement which allows them to withdraw overpayments without first consulting you. [01:08] Fun. [01:08] I am wary of small print. [01:08] They could still do that as long as they know your account info. [01:08] popl, maranello beauty college is that strict? damn. [01:08] popl: even payroll direct deposits are able to do that [01:08] A paper check/cheque gives that away. [01:08] gniks: That's why I fear direct deposit. [01:09] ive never seen a college over pay, unless someone lied on their forms [01:09] and as long as the company you work for isnt going under& your safe there too :p [01:09] Motoko-chan: What allows them to remove funds from my account? I didn't sign anything giving them permission. [01:10] its their money, if they make a mistake, they have to correct it [01:10] popl, a lot of shit happens whether or not you allow it. [01:10] Better than a stopped paycheck which means YOU pay for it. [01:11] am0rphis (~ewq@91.145.222.28) left irc: Quit: http://fish.secure.la/ [01:11] I know waht information is available on a paper check. [01:11] I don't know what gives them access to my account to withdraw funds, though. [01:11] yeah, your routing number and account number, name, address, etc& we only need the name, routing number, and account number to make a withdrawl [01:11] Routing number and account number. [01:11] popl, just ask them nigerians [01:12] depends on who wrote the check and how readable their handwriting is [01:12] *not all of them* [01:12] I had that happen once, the bounced paycheck. [01:12] I said I know what information is on the paycheck. I guess I should have clarified -- I don't know what gives them the *right* to access my account. [01:12] Direct deposit got messed up, so I was issued a paper check. [01:12] Deposited it, then got charged $19 when it bounced (account didn't have funds yet) [01:12] Motoko-chan, that's the sign of a shitty ass accountant or whoever is handling the pay. they didn't move money to payroll. [01:12] popl: the contracts you sign with them gives them that right [01:13] Argued with my bank, and they reversed the charge as a "courtesy". [01:13] its a chicken and egg problem [01:13] jeev, it's a small company. [01:13] Motoko-chan: small or startup? [01:13] can someone cite specifics? I'm looking for material evidence. [01:13] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:13] i worked for a small company that was around for 12 years, they never had cash issues [01:13] Motoko-chan, i had a bounced paycheck too [01:13] Small. It's been around 12 years or so. [01:13] It wasn't a cash issue, it was a staffing issue. [01:13] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:14] popl, anyone can take a blank check, print with MICR or whatever it is your information and "sign" like you, if your bankers aren't good enough they wont catch it and it'll go through [01:14] popl: one time, my payroll accountant screwed up my hours, they over payed me& so they withdrew the funds they over payed me from my account [01:14] My boss (the company owner) was temporarily handling finances while looking for a new controller. [01:14] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] Motoko-chan, what city you in [01:14] jeev: that's not what we're talking about, though. [01:14] Motoko-chan: gotchya [01:14] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [01:14] o.. right i forgot [01:14] ontario [01:14] I took too long to deposit it, and the money had already been pulled out of that account. [01:14] I'm near Ontario (California) [01:15] yea [01:15] your fios still gives me a boner [01:15] Motoko-chan, in my case, it was just a sleazy employer [01:15] jeev: someone kiting checks is different from your employer withdrawing money from your account. [01:15] jeev: I have fios too [01:15] jeev: mine? [01:15] fuck you all. [01:15] jeev: do I make you horny? [01:15] lol [01:15] popl, no. deco does [01:15] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:15] Action: deco touches popl [01:15] Action: popl is radioactive [01:15] :o [01:16] popl: if you sign a direct deposit contract, you are giving that entity rights to your account, to deposit AND withdrawl, up to the amount they deposited& its a fact of life and banking [01:16] http://rpjsyndicate.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/keyra-ass.jpg <- deco's ass [01:16] best get used to it [01:16] what lol [01:16] gniks: I didn't sign a direct deposit contract. [01:16] popl: what did you sign then? [01:16] you have to if your getting anything electronically deposited into your account [01:16] I didn't say I was. [01:17] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@75.42.68.163) joined ##slackware. [01:17] oh, well sounded like you did [01:17] re the college financial aid [01:17] when? [01:17] No, it was an argument over not. [01:17] anyway, every transaction is reversable [01:17] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:18] of course, to reverse it, costs the initiating party money to do [01:18] Bugz_ (Bugz_@75.42.68.163) left ##slackware. [01:18] Cruciphix (~Cruciphix@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:18] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@75.42.68.163) joined ##slackware. [01:18] that makes more sense [01:18] thats the basis behind it [01:18] I'd believe that rather than someone having the ability to remove funds from my account if they knew my account information. :P [01:18] its not like they can withdrawal your entire account [01:18] well, thats true too to and extent popl [01:18] ashe (~ashe@125.163.1.131) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:18] Which is what Motoko-chan was saying. [01:19] or at least is what I inferred from what Motoko-chan said. [01:19] They can. [01:19] yeah, they totally can [01:19] ever pay a credit card bill online? [01:19] no [01:19] they ask for your routing number and account number [01:19] thats all they use [01:19] and you give that company a signature, authorizing them to withdrawal funds [01:20] the bank never sees said signature [01:20] it just completes the request [01:20] ACH! [01:20] (That's an actual banking term) [01:20] and if you ever take it to court, the company making the request has your signature to fight you [01:20] ACH transfer yeah :P [01:21] its like writing a check and sending it to them to cash [01:21] except its electronic and not a check [01:21] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-180.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:21] Many checks are all ACH now. [01:21] and can be initiated by anyone [01:21] They just scan the info at the bottom and electronically remove the money. [01:22] right [01:22] Bank never sees the paper. [01:22] you can request that, that not be done though [01:22] my bank scans all the checks and keeps microfilm [01:22] I don't know what they do with the paper originals [01:22] popl: not if they never get a check they don't [01:22] Most people handing the customer-end of it will just look at you blankly if you ask to avoid the ACH [01:23] Motoko-chan: depends on the company you are dealing with [01:23] I said most, not all. [01:23] :p [01:23] gniks: obviously :P [01:23] Retail stores are particuarly bad. [01:23] I usually pay with cash or CC nowadays. [01:23] me too [01:23] A real CC. [01:23] most stores won't take personal checks anymore [01:23] $0 fraud liability is nice. [01:23] I was considering one. [01:24] i use my debit card which goes through the visa network [01:24] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:24] get the same protections [01:24] gniks: I know a lot of stores that take personal checks. [01:24] *know of [01:24] popl: none of them where i live do [01:24] where do you live? [01:24] none in Michigan, and ive yet to find on since moving to NYC that does [01:24] I'd advise you to avoid using the card at all. [01:24] It's not quite the same with getting money back as easily. [01:25] When it's a pure CC, it's the bank's money missing. [01:25] it is.. i actually had to go through that recently [01:25] i had the money back within 24 hours [01:25] Nice. [01:25] visa caught the fraud [01:25] I went through stuff with my CC a while back [01:25] i called the bank, they faxed the forms, i faxed it back, and it was done [01:25] Monoprice cardjacking. [01:25] yeah [01:25] thats no good [01:25] i think someone actually copied my card [01:26] because they had the CVVI number and everything [01:26] The company caught the fraud, stopped the card, and alerted me by e-mail and account notice online. [01:26] how'd they pull that off? [01:26] did you put it in a compromised atm? [01:26] naw [01:26] most ATM's aren't compromisable [01:26] the lil kiosks are worse, and i never use them [01:26] They froze the part of my credit taken out, and I got a new card in two weeks. [01:27] Filled out a two-page form and that was that. [01:27] if you go to a restaurant an employee can swipe your card through a copier and take your information [01:27] gniks: That statement is intractable. [01:27] Bank ATMs *have* been used to capture stripes. [01:27] Custom keypad overlays and covers over the card slots. [01:28] There was a talk at Def Con just weeks ago about it. [01:28] about "jackpotting" ATMs [01:28] to compromise an ATM, you either need to do it via software, or physically&. but if they are designed right, its extremely hard to physically alter them [01:28] Chase has nice ATMs now. [01:28] of course the ATMs in question were of those independent variety [01:28] right [01:28] The card slot is transparent and green LEDs blink behind them. [01:28] casinos have had compromised machines [01:28] i only use an ATM that is in the wall of a bank [01:28] gniks, those have been used to clone cards. [01:28] for those reasons [01:29] its much less likely someone is going ot show up, tamper with it, and it not get caught [01:29] Check out the Krebs on Security archives for some photos of the equipment. [01:29] My main liquid account isn't with Chase, so when i do have to use my bank ATM, I pull lightly on the card slot. [01:30] http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/01/would-you-have-spotted-the-fraud/ [01:30] Stupid acquisitions made it so my bank has many different ATM models. [01:30] ATM fraud is old news&. (to the people doing it anyway) information copying is a much greater and new threat [01:32] it all sucks the same regardless :p [01:32] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [01:32] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [01:33] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [01:36] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] we should just make the switch to using yuan to save trouble later [01:39] Motoko-chan: I use a credit union so there are all kinds of different ATMs where I can withdraw from [01:39] I'm with US Bank right now. [01:39] how do you like it? [01:40] I am very fond of the credit union system. [01:41] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:41] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:41] It's okay. [01:42] I look around when I get the chance. [01:42] Most people I know use Wells Fargo or BofA. [01:42] Both of those suck. [01:42] I do have some accounts with BofA. [01:42] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [01:43] Dunno if you're familiar with PFF. [01:43] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.52) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:43] only if you mean the Progress & Freedom Foundation [01:44] which you probably don't [01:44] :P [01:44] It was a small regional bank. [01:44] They got put under recievership and sold to US Bank. [01:44] That's how I wound up there. [01:44] sounds vaguely familiar to what happened with my mother's bank a long time ago. [01:45] before the recent spate of bank failures [01:45] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] PFF was going to be bought by Cal National Bank. [01:47] Hacker News keeps scooping Slashdot [01:47] They failed before that. [01:47] Funny enough, Cal National later failed and was acquired by US Bank. [01:47] ironic, don't you think? [01:47] popl, /. isn't really a place for breaking news. [01:47] Motoko-chan: not anymore anyways [01:47] Motoko-chan: I read an article about just that recently [01:48] on /. [01:48] :P [01:48] heh [01:48] I was reading about the P != NP conjecture [01:49] I would need four more years of maths to read it most likely. [01:50] I used to be a math major. [01:50] and then you got bit by a radioactive spider? [01:52] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:52] Motoko-chan: I'm still a CS major. [01:52] It's taken me forever to jump through the hoops at Cal State though. [01:53] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:53] http://www.thestreet.com/story/10829398/1/final-call-for-100mbps-broadband-service-at-us13month.html cum to that, wow. [01:53] jeev: :P [01:54] br [01:54] *brb [01:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:55] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:01] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D4FE2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:49] Fear_cult (~fear@ip70-162-10-216.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] anyone know what i'd have to append to /etc/profile to have ls always display ls --color [02:50] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:50] Fear_cult: use an alias [02:50] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-186.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 253 seconds [02:50] help alias [02:51] alias ls /bin/ls --color=always [02:51] --color is sufficient alisonken1lap [02:52] sorry - "alias ls /usr/bin/ls --color=always" [02:52] ty [02:52] popl: spelling it out makes it unambiguous :) [02:52] also reminds you why it's there [02:52] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-186.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:54] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:55] ok im a lil buzzed right now but where the hell do i put that line in the profile [02:56] a better spot would probably be ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc [02:56] betageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Quit: frobnicate foo! [02:56] but anywhere in /etc/profile towards the end would work [02:58] hmm not working [02:58] did you source it after editing? [02:58] maybe if you sourced the file [02:58] twit :P [02:59] Action: popl hides Fear_cult's beer [02:59] heh [02:59] :) [02:59] its not beer [02:59] I keep my aliases in .bash_aliases [02:59] if it's not Henry Weinharts Dark it;s just piss water [02:59] then just source that file in .bashrc [02:59] no its not alcoholic [03:01] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-114-251.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:04] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[03:55] dunno but i have to wait ~2 mins before i can use wifi [03:55] i mean [03:55] 1st NetworkManager connects me [03:56] dunno [03:56] im tired [03:57] cr3 (~cr3@h82-143-189-199-static.e-wro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [04:01] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Morn [04:03] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [04:03] early morn [04:03] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Please release me from this hell..... [04:05] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [04:08] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) joined ##slackware. [04:16] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Morning. 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[05:13] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) left irc: Read error: Connection refused [05:14] DallaRosa (~t7DS@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Quit: Beavis & Butthead use The 7 Deadly Sins.. Huh-huh huh-huh huh-huh   [www.t7ds.com.br] [05:16] Can anyone explain what this is about? Got it from the daily Slackware - http://pastebin.com/h9K6Q0cM [05:16] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-186.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:17] it looks like a fortune [05:17] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:17] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:17] it's a study showing that what you think is happening is almost as important as the actual drugs being used [05:18] and what do you mean by "The Daily Slackware" ? [05:18] alisonken1home, I see. [05:18] That's what I mean, daily Slackware, the fortune. Everytime I open up konsole, ah a daily tip or something. [05:18] :] [05:19] Thank you alisonken1home. [05:19] ah - as Zbouby notes, that's from a program called "fortune" in the ap/games package [05:19] the fortune files have some interesting things in them [05:19] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:19] Indeedy. [05:20] I read them every chance I get. Some are repetitive though. [05:20] there's even tutorials on making your own fortune database [05:20] not so much repetitive, but it's the randomizer used by the fortune program [05:21] Fear_cult (~fear@ip70-162-10-216.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:21] Oh no, I have a fortune database of sort, of my own. [05:22] http://www.rhisa.com/node -> on the right side of your screen, called rizatruth [05:22] Hit F5 and voila, same idea. :D [05:22] ah [05:22] But mine isn't mixed, it's 99% wisdom related. [05:23] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:24] Like this is one of my favorite from the module - "The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." - Isaac Asimov [05:24] did you have a look at /usr/share/games/fortunes files yet? [05:24] Just now yes. [05:24] :3 [05:24] just entries separated by "%"s [05:24] the files are somewhat broken up by type of fortune [05:25] you can also d/l fortunes files from the internet as well with different types of fortunes [05:25] i wonder why the offensive ones are rot13's [05:25] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:25] *'d [05:25] heh [05:25] I see. [05:30] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:30] alisonken1lap, looks like you just strfile to make a fortune-like database [05:30] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] basically - yes [05:31] I created one for the office - it's pretty easy [05:31] haha, neat :) [05:35] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [05:36] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:38] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.234.86) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:40] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:41] Dunno if you guys get sick often like me but if you do - http://www.rhisa.com/node/542 [05:41] Just made it cause I do. :( [05:42] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:44] I used quotes from our tech support guys :) [05:44] risah: you may try grapefruit seed extract [05:45] Zbouby, sounds like something expensive to buy. :( [05:45] risah: nop [05:47] In france I buy 500ml of 60/40 extract/aloes for 66¤ [05:47] I'll look. [05:47] I have very weak immune system. [05:48] It's a very wide-spectrum antibiotic with no known microbian resistance side effect [05:48] o.o [05:48] Wow. [05:48] It doesn't destroy intestinal flora [05:49] It's a really good stuff for your kind of problems [05:49] Would these do? http://www.amazon.com/Grapefruit-Seed-Extract-Maximum-Strength-250mg/dp/B002QP9FAS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1281347146&sr=8-2 [05:49] I'd rather buy liquid extract .. [05:49] euphorial (euph@unaffiliated/euphorial) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:49] it's suitable for external use [05:49] Oh how come? What's the difference? [05:50] What would I use it for externally? [05:50] to clean some scratches ? or just do .. gargarism ? ( is that english ? ) [05:50] lol [05:51] Nope but I see, I didn't know you could do that. [05:51] I use it for eczema, it's pretty efficient [05:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract [05:51] It says I have to look out for fakes. [05:51] Oh no. [05:52] yes, it's simple to verify [05:52] you let a over-old fruit go down [05:52] you put a drop on it [05:52] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.234.86) joined ##slackware. [05:52] and, melting down stops :p [05:52] Melting down stops? [05:52] What do you mean? [05:53] I don't know the english word for the french verb "moisir" [05:53] mold ? [05:53] Ooh. [05:53] So mold will melt away? [05:53] http://www.amazon.com/Maximum-Grapefruit-Seed-Extract-GSE/dp/B001JD8X7E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1281347146&sr=8-6 [05:53] This do? [05:53] fruit won't continue to mold .. yep [05:54] hmm I think you can trust amazon [05:54] Wow. [05:54] I can trust amazon but not some of their sellers. [05:54] Can I drink it too? [05:54] ah, I'm not used to US market ;) [05:55] yes, you can.. but avoid conflicts with other medications [05:55] I don't take medications. [05:55] it's good for stomach problems .. [05:56] it's also good for candida albicens and some parasits [05:56] Even if I don't have any stomach problems, would it be good for general healtlh? [05:56] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:56] I think it's preferable to use this kind of stuff only when you're sick [05:56] Oooh. [05:56] Do they have expiration dates? [05:56] Cause I was gonna order. [05:57] I dunno .. [05:57] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:57] it's a good conservative [05:57] so .. It may not go down so quick ;) [05:57] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Ooh. [05:57] Thanks though! :D [05:58] ( you can put a drop in your marmelade if you don't want her to mold :p ) [05:58] want it to mold ? maybe it's more appropriate ! [05:58] lol :O [06:00] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:00] hey, I learned a new word today ! great ;) [06:00] What word? [06:00] to mold [06:00] Oooh. [06:00] Indeedy. [06:01] ( I'm not english you know .. ) [06:01] And I learned about something useful. [06:01] I know now. [06:02] Wow! mysqld.log: 24GB [06:02] Will it explode at the end ? :fear: [06:04] o.o [06:05] if it gets too big, something may happen [06:05] I know apache has a problem when the log files get too big [06:07] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:07] logrotate is our friend ;) [06:07] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [06:09] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Log management with logrotate. [06:12] I used to purge logs every month. [06:12] manually ? [06:12] I had a script setup that would run every month and delete everything that would grow, log-related. [06:12] ah, ok. [06:14] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) joined ##slackware. [06:14] there's a tutorial on how to add logrotate to root cron to run once a week somewhere [06:15] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [06:15] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Quit: .. [06:17] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [06:19] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:29] Does 13.1 have screen-configurations.xml? This is remnant from my 13.0 backup, dunno if I should keep it or not. [06:29] which directory? [06:29] risah: It's KDE's leftovers [06:29] Usually, nothing important [06:30] ~ [06:30] john_dee, alright deleting it then. [06:34] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:36] morning guys [06:36] morn [06:37] ov3rmind (~2010@unaffiliated/ov3rmind) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:37] Action: phrag just moved house into his brand new apartment =) [06:39] phrag, grats. [06:39] Make sure you have lemon and honey in your fridge. [06:39] no lemon partys allowed =P [06:39] risah: i am actually poorly with a sore throat and cough... how did you know! [06:39] o.o [06:40] You are poorly what? [06:40] I dunno but I just wrote an article on it - http://www.rhisa.com/node/542 [06:40] sorry, qualocalism... poorly as in ill [06:40] phrag: its global [06:40] phrag: people EVERYWHERE have a cold right now.. netherlands, US, all over UK [06:41] Zordrak: really? i thought it was just a northern england thing [06:41] oh, the cought... yeah.. thought you meant the term 'poorly' =P [06:41] Zordrak: worst thing is... i think the doctor gave me it! [06:42] heh [06:44] risah: awesome, sent to my gf too.. will try some of those cold suggestions =) [06:45] Thank ye. [06:48] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [06:48] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:50] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [06:51] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-56-26.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:53] When doing rsync, any idea why it would take so long on "sending incremental file list"? [06:53] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-62.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:53] depends on route to the other end [06:53] Hm from one hard drive to another? Both 1.4tb in size. [06:53] also how many changes are between the host and the client [06:53] risah: because its doing a complete index of all files that are going te be synched and comparing the contents at destination with source [06:53] Zordrak, thank you. [06:54] all the hard work is done at that stage.. the rest is just a glorified copy [06:54] Hm, not a lot of changes at all really. [06:54] Haha, glorified copy. But isn't it really that good? [06:54] the goodness is all in that first step.. [06:54] Mmm aye. :) [06:55] rsync only copies the files over that have changed or are new - so ti takes a little work to make sure of timestamps [06:56] What's the difference between a dry run of rsync and diff then? [06:56] Oh diff go by line by line, okay. [06:56] risah: dry run calculates the information but doesnt copy anything [06:56] as you would expecrt [06:57] Yep. [06:58] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:58] dry run is very handy [06:59] i did an rsync the wrong direction the other day, went for my lunch and filled the source box =P [06:59] :'(.. [07:05] I am sometimes thankful I have OCD. [07:05] Anyone super-awesome at Python 1.5.2 using MySQL db connector 0.22? [07:05] no? [07:05] thought not. [07:05] Nope... I never thought about python.. :( sorry Zordrak. [07:06] not super awsome, but I've used it [07:06] alisonken1lap: 1.5.2 w/ 0.22? [07:06] and that python is _reaaaly_ old [07:06] Zordrak: yeah - maaaany moons ago [07:07] alisonken1lap: cool.. might comp back to you about it. [07:07] *come [07:08] k [07:11] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:9a0:a550:3188:a1f2:6ea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:11] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:13] I have a My Book that I keep on almost 24/7, what do you guys think? Acceptable? [07:14] acceptable for what? [07:14] I keep my home computer going 24/7 [07:15] it's about like leaving a 200W light bulb on all the time [07:15] risah: if it's a laptop, and you don't need it to be on 24/7, it's easy enough to close it and put it to sleep [07:15] ananke, oh no, My Book is an external hard drive. [07:16] Connected via USB, I was a tad bit worried about heat. [07:16] ohh. nevermind [07:22] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:22] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:24] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:9a0:14db:8a66:e49d:dae8) joined ##slackware. [07:25] ananke: i like that you didnt know that.. me neither.. there are few of us left =P [07:26] phrag, you referring to my precious My Book?! [07:27] because the name of that product obviously reveals its nature :) [07:27] :> [07:28] hehe [07:28] just referring to generic propriatory names for things =P [07:28] "My Book" being a prime example =) [07:29] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.73) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:30] is Novell Groupwise a bit like Lotus Notes? ..or am i way off [07:30] phrag, I think way off. [07:30] I remember reading about that too. [07:31] apparently, "Harder to hack than Exchange." heh [07:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-5-242-12.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:31] thats one of their main marketing pitches =P [07:32] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:32] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:35] Hah, I should develop my own marketing pitch. [07:37] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:38] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [07:38] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:40] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:42] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:42] m3tti (~user@p57B7F134.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:43] "Risah: Risah will do your work for you, for free!*" *devil's note hereee [07:45] alisonken1lap: any ideas of an equivasent to Data::Dumper in python(1.5) ? [07:45] *equivalent [07:45] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:45] not familiar with perl [07:45] what does Data::Dumper do? [07:46] basiaclly whatever it can to print an object as an array regardless of the interface types [07:46] m3tti (~user@p57B7F134.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:46] just the basic hierarchy of stored data types in the object [07:46] Has anyone here ever written a business plan? D: [07:46] Nvm, sorry. [07:47] Oh God, analyzing the market is tedious. [07:48] istr there being a #startups on freenode [07:48] Whoa... [07:48] There really is such a channel, thank you fred. [07:48] m3tti (~user@p57B7F134.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:49] Zordrak: hmm - have to go back and check on that [07:53] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:54] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:59] So, HTML5 is out? [07:59] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:59] >.< [08:00] HTML5 is supported by almsot all open source browsers and a few proprietary ones too [08:00] I think even IE is going to supportit [08:00] What the hell.. where have I been thene. [08:00] I'm stuck on 4. [08:01] Action: NaCl has HTML6 [08:01] It's one higher [08:01] HTML6 is out!? [08:01] ;_; Oh man I better... [08:02] heh [08:02] Action: NaCl kids [08:03] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [08:03] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. 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[08:13] it works on 3.23.. and for 5 the DB shows a connection initiated.. but somewhere after the TCP invocation it baulks at the server.. probably some basic MySQL protocolr mismatch [08:13] alisonken1lap: none at all [08:14] alisonken1lap: the app is legacy in-house that was written in 2001 and has had no maintenance since [08:14] well, that sometimes happens - including the no-upgrade option [08:14] it would need a python code upgrade squad... but the app is only needed until Feb.. perhaps before then.. so not worth doing [08:14] good enough reason :) [08:14] i just have to reinstall the DB server that died to cause all this (Fedora Core 3 :( ) [08:16] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [08:22] zplinux (~zplinux@213.8.57.217) joined ##slackware. [08:23] if [ grep -v -q "LINE" /path/file ] ;then echo "LINE" >> /patch/file ;fi [08:23] it doesnt work [08:24] I am trying to add a line to a file if it doesnt alreay exisit [08:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [08:26] grep -q what does grep -q "LINE" /path/to/file && echo "found" show [08:26] the other option is to add -i (ignore case) [08:27] why -v ? [08:27] hmm maybe if ! grep -q "192.168.110.1" /etc/hosts ; then echo 1 ;fi [08:27] Hm.. [08:27] Maybe I should learn python. [08:27] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Besides learning a new language, I wonder what other benefits there are to it. [08:27] zplinux, that looks better [08:27] lots [08:27] contrary to someone else here that doesn't like python :) [08:27] well, you need the [ ] test, but yeah [08:27] or try the one I did [08:27] Hehe. [08:28] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:28] grep -viq "line" /path/to/file || echo "new line" >>/path/to/file [08:29] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:29] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-gtxlwmouciowasye) joined ##slackware. [08:29] grep -iq "line" /path/to/file || echo "new line" >>/path/to/file (drop the -v rather) [08:31] thanks [08:32] What you don't want to see when trying to recover a database from a buggered disk? [08:33] No output for `find / iname "mysql-bin*"` [08:33] "failed to start mysqld - corrupted databse" and no backups [08:33] Mine's worse :) [08:34] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:34] is the star supposed to be in the find options? [08:34] alisonken1home, that hapepend to me!!! [08:34] of course.. [08:34] I hated that and nothing makes me rage more when there is no backup. [08:34] HOld on. I remember now, deleting stuff in lamp in opt. [08:35] Yes that was how I lost 1gb worth of stuff a while back. >< [08:35] alisonken1lap: The mysql lib dir isnt even in lost+found.. its just not there [08:35] whoa - yep, not good [08:36] http://www.rhisa.com/node/504 ;_; That was it, I still have the emails going back and forth with the lamp guys but not sure I should publish it. [08:38] ;_; I jjust realized what Zordrak is talking about so I went off. [08:38] Ah well, I should get breakfast. [08:41] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [08:44] bloody Asus [08:45] the error message for thats a 3gbps sata disk and i can only handle 1.5: "The bios does not be installed" [08:45] heh [08:45] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:45] now where did i put my spare jumpers [08:46] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:47] in the trunk! [08:48] People still use jumpers? [08:49] on some motherboards - yes [08:49] for cars, yeah. they're important! [08:49] :P [08:49] my laptops don't need jumpers.. go them [08:50] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:50] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Cariiie (malebox_09@41.236.13.100) joined ##slackware. [08:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:52] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:52] They are necessary to detune a 3gbps SATA HDD to 1.5gbps mode [08:53] Zordrak: used to have an asus motherboard that on my shiny dual-core amd64 CPU said "Processor clock speed: 200mhz" [08:53] *at the time shiny [08:53] meant FSB. [08:53] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F134.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRg9IYBS-gWVjDjOmad1BnKpMk5yecv0oCucAfBk0FZsAcm2wI&t=1&usg=__KlbXDu7JPqTDRuN4Lhlpc_3Ycx8= <- XD [08:54] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:54] frankie's asus motherboard has been pretty good thus far [08:54] heh [08:54] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:54] but what kind of cookies? [08:55] alisonken don't know [08:55] Action: raela wants cookies [08:58] http://i.imgur.com/QDPrT.png <- thats also great XD [08:59] anyone know what switches to give to cp so that the copied file will inherit default acl permissions of the destination directory (--no-preseve=mode,ownership doesn't see to work)? [09:00] Is someone able to explain this to me, please. [09:00] I have my monitor set to 1920x1080 (Set it with xrandr) but the image doesn't fill my screen, I ran 'xrandr -q --verbose' which shows I have to different modes for 1920x1080; How am I meant to enable the second 1080p mode (The resolution works on slack 13.1 with krandr) [09:00] xrandr output: http://pastebin.com/jbp015MP [09:00] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:01] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:01] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:01] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [09:02] :/ [09:03] matt0: hrm the image doesn't fit the screen? [09:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:03] matt0: stab in the dark... but can u use the hex code somehow? [09:03] matt0: xrandr 0x4c ??? [09:03] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:03] are you sure your screen provide that resolution [09:03] zoran, that doesn't work [09:03] m3tti [09:04] yes, It works fine in windows and slack 13.1 [09:04] because to me it sounds like that [09:04] I'm running 12.2 [09:04] hrm [09:04] ok what kinda graphicscard [09:04] ? [09:04] ugh, it's integrated graphics chip [09:04] intel g31 [09:05] ah ok. Hrm do you need a xorg.conf in 12.2 don't know anymore [09:05] bacause i was distrohopping very often but know i want to stay with the slack [09:06] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:06] No, I don't think you need one [09:06] actually [09:06] matt0: !think about it before you try! but maybe someting like xrandr -s 3 [09:07] in 12.2 you do [09:07] matt0: my advice is something like X -configure see whats in there and play around with the settings [09:08] 13.0 or 13.1 was the first that xorg.conf wasn't needed - I"m pretty sure it's 13.1 [09:09] matt0: it's a stupid question but are you in the video group maybe it could be something like that too [09:10] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:10] yea, I don't have a problem setting the resolution [09:10] Anyone know what the last slack ver was to have MySQL 3.23? [09:11] Action: Zordrak is now running through the mirrors [09:11] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:13] Zordrak: 9.0 [09:13] jesus [09:13] tx [09:13] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:15] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:15] so i have to pick between Slackware-9.0 and Fedora Core 3 [09:15] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:15] for what? [09:15] for temporary replacement of a completely shafted production server [09:16] at least it doesnt take long to pull the ISO at 4MB/s [09:17] Does KDE have github or someother online source code viewer thingymabob? [09:17] yeah somewhere [09:19] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [09:19] matt0: websvn.kde.org or somesuch [09:20] NaCI, thanks [09:20] good luck finding a mirror that will give you a 4 MB/s download speed [09:20] matt0: tab-complete is your friend [09:21] I'm failing to see how that is relevant? [09:21] it's an 'l', not an 'I' [09:21] KaMii: thats the speed i was pulling [09:21] KaMii: was actually 4.5MB/s [09:22] NaCl, Oh my god (MIND BLOWN) I have never stumbled across that feature in XChat [09:22] I never get anything faster than 1MB/s and I have 10 up 10 down :S [09:22] the line itself here is capable of about 11MB/s [09:22] KaMii: im talking bytes not bits [09:22] matt0: lol sarcasm? [09:22] no [09:22] oh. [09:22] 100Mbps line, capable of 11-ish MB/s, pulling at 4.5MB/s from mirror [09:22] bits and bytes always confuse the hell out of me [09:22] well, it's extremely useful, as you could tell. :P [09:23] NaCl, indeed [09:23] KaMii: then simplest explanation is 700MB Slackware 9.0 ISO in 3mins [09:23] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0A7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] oh ok, that sounds about right, I can do that [09:24] if the mirror would give me the speed, itd be about 1min [09:24] but as it is, it took longer to burn to a disc than it did to download [09:28] hmm.. i wonder if MySQL 3.23 would compile on slack13.1 [09:29] Action: Zordrak tries it [09:30] nope :( [09:30] and slack9 wont install on the hardware in question [09:30] Fedora Core 3 it is :( [09:30] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:31] u-neeks- (~u-neeks@200.140.0.142) joined ##slackware. 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[09:57] http://pastebin.com/kRHpce7u [09:57] (it's bash) [09:58] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [09:58] hello [09:59] i get bash: line 3: [: =: unary operator expected [09:59] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:59] why does slackware ship with tetex? instead of texlive? [09:59] no good reason, really. Pat is slow about migrations [09:59] "I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any more (May 2006)." http://www.tug.org/tetex/ [10:00] that was 4 years ago :-) [10:00] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:00] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-208-135.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:01] slackware still ships stuff like APM, so :> [10:01] i need apm :-) [10:01] phrag, XMCHECK must be evaluating to something blank [10:02] haha [10:02] (add an x) [10:02] hmm [10:03] it appears not to be [10:03] well, to both sides of the comparison -- but that doesn't really help that you appear to be "cat"ing a blank file [10:03] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:05] trhodes: ok, what if sometimes it returns 0, and sometimes control_d [10:05] and i want to check and do something if it returns control_d [10:07] as they both return 0 [10:08] 0 and control_d are the only possible states ? [10:09] or are there more ? [10:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] who uses TeX anyway? [10:09] science-y folks [10:10] KaMii, what? TeX is important! [10:10] i looked at it, the reasons for using didnt make sense to me [10:10] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:10] it said tex lets writers write and not worry about style, and fonts... but you really have to spend a lot of time messing with styles and fonts [10:11] the file exists on most the boxes [10:11] and cat'n the file, either return control_d or nothing [10:11] phrag, ah ok [10:11] both exit with a 0 state, as the file exists and readable [10:12] viper1000 (ronald@c-98-230-230-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [10:12] i want the condition to check if it returns control_d.. but having trouble getting it right [10:12] #bash is no help, they just refer you to documentation that has not helped me [10:13] bash.org is plenty of help [10:13] hehe [10:14] http://pastebin.com/mVB1JwCV is what I meant by adding the x's [10:14] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:14] phrag, test's "-z" also tells if a string is empty [10:15] Kii-kun (5c08785e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.8.120.94) joined ##slackware. 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[10:33] hello all. can someone help with X. when i startx i get a blank screen. i tried xorgsetup same. why doesnt xorgconfig work and is there another way to configure X [10:33] Destructo: slack 13+ right? [10:34] Destructo, which video card? [10:34] do xconf [10:34] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Should fix it [10:34] yes [10:34] Destructo: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/slackware-13-0-xorg-hal/ [10:34] Kii-kun: no [10:34] kii-kun i get command not found [10:34] Try pressing CTRL+ALT+Backspace [10:34] Kii-kun: shh. [10:34] when running startx :p [10:34] Anyway, [10:34] I wanted to know [10:35] Why is booting so slow? [10:35] Destructo, if you use an open-source video driver, x-server is smart enough to figure out the driver on its own. It uses hal to get a list of input devices, and assigns driver on its own too. So, long story short, remove your xorg.conf and just run startx [10:35] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d0004bb.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Kii-kun: It's too cold.. you need to get your system up to 300C to lubricate the oils properly [10:35] Zordrak, of course im gonna fry my system :p [10:35] Kii-kun, slackware's init system is a slow bash script, not much else to it [10:35] Hmmmm [10:36] thrice' ok let me try it. [10:36] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:36] thrice`: to be fair its not even what i'd call slow [10:36] thrice`: its just not instant [10:36] Well [10:36] Over a minute [10:36] Zordrak, easily the slowest available today :> [10:36] Action: Zordrak gasps sarcastically [10:36] I like OSX starting in 15 secongs [10:36] *seconds [10:36] thrice' i first had xorg.conf-vesa. after ii did xorgsetup, i noticed it added xorg.conf . [10:37] Destructo it will [10:37] Destructo: delete [10:37] Destructo: xorg.conf [10:37] Destructo, right; kill the xorg.conf. xorg.conf-vesa is just an (old) example file [10:37] ^ [10:37] Hmmmmmmmm [10:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:38] i did just that. i did startx still get blank screen [10:38] ctrl-alt backspace doesnt work [10:38] Destructo, ok; which video card ? [10:38] hi there [10:38] neomagic something [10:39] mmm, tricky [10:39] it rebooting now [10:39] ............... [10:39] is alsa depending on a specific kernel it was built for? [10:39] Action: Kii-kun boots Windows 7 on his P4 [10:39] Barnabyh, no, not really [10:40] thrice' are there anyother commands for configuring X [10:40] slackware uses the kernel-provided hardware goodies for alsa (as with most distros) [10:40] seems like xorgconfig is out [10:40] Destructo, X -configure is worth a try [10:40] k [10:40] ah, thanks. So I can just upgrade alsa to the new version in 13.1 but keep the 13.0 kernel? [10:41] thrice' have you ever heard of a slackware-based distro called KateOs [10:41] Barnabyh, alsa-lib, you mean ? [10:41] or anyone [10:41] yes [10:41] Barnabyh, yep, that's mostly run-time stuff [10:41] Destructo, nope, sorry. assuming you're on that distro (shame on you), does it provide the neomagic driver? [10:42] Great. Thanks guys. [10:42] hmmmm [10:42] ima make a bootable slax USB key with lots of mods [10:42] brb [10:43] neomagic corparation - MagicGraph 128xd is my video card [10:43] Destructo, ls /var/log/packages/*neomagic* ? [10:43] I have an Nvidia 8800gt in my quad core rig [10:43] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:44] I have a black car [10:44] i have feet [10:44] Chimaera 50? [10:44] Chimaera 500*? [10:44] Kii-kun, you're quite worthless [10:44] :P [10:44] actually, humans are priceless [10:44] s/quite// [10:44] So your statement was false [10:45] and it will go to /dev/null/ [10:45] thrice' /var/log/packages/xf86-video-neomagic-1.2.4-i486-2 [10:45] moti (moti@devio.us) joined ##slackware. [10:45] so is xorgconfig no longer needed or uised ? [10:45] faez out? [10:46] Destructo, ok, that's a start :) at least the drivers are installed. unfortunately, being such an oddball driver, I am clueless if a) it works, b) supports your card :) [10:46] fazed [10:46] Action: Destructo dams the IBM600 [10:48] thrice' why would another slackware based distro have no X issues but slackware does ..? [10:48] i have no clue whether that's true or not, but if they rip off slackware's packages directly, then it's not possible [10:48] ummmm, kernel issues? [10:48] try updating your kernel [10:48] I have neither the hardware, nor motivation, to test that :) [10:49] heh [10:49] thrice [10:49] want an old P2? [10:49] Channel flood from Kii-kun -- kicking [10:49] :p [10:49] Kii-kun kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:49] but, if you think it might be the case, try comparing their build scripts, package versions, etc [10:49] Kii-kun (5c08785e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.8.120.94) joined ##slackware. [10:49] lol [10:49] pwnt [10:49] sooooo [10:50] hold on... Destructo are you not using Slackware? [10:50] Destructo, you may be able to at least use the vesa driver temporarily [10:50] i am using slackware [10:51] Destructo: Definitely? You're 100% on Slackware and not KateOS? [10:51] lee555J5 (~irchon@166.137.14.66) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Zordrak 100% using slackware [10:51] kk [10:52] surely its time to head to the xorg log to find out whats going on.. [10:52] its rebooting now . [10:53] k. done. [10:53] cd /etc [10:53] oops [10:53] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:54] weird. i dont have xorg.conf or xorg.conf-vesa [10:54] .. in X11 [10:54] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Destructo, does 'cat /etc/*sio*' return anything? [10:55] i ahve 4 minutes left at the library [10:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:55] slackware 13.1.0 [10:55] well, try "X -configure" as root, copy it (/root/xorg.conf.new ?) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and try startx [10:55] edthix (ed@115.133.247.64) left ##slackware. [10:55] i had an old thinkpad with a neomagic driver that wouldn't work, but i packaged up a patched fedora one that did [10:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] i don't recall that exact card though [10:57] (MagicGraph 128xd) [10:57] trhodes that my laptop too [10:57] damn gotta go. thanks again [10:58] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:58] SSephi (SSephi@cpc10-live21-2-0-cust101.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Kii-kun (5c08785e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.8.120.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:58] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [10:59] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) joined ##slackware. [10:59] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Disconnecting... 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[11:42] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0A7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Kii-kun (5c131421@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.19.20.33) joined ##slackware. [11:42] ISP failed [11:42] had to reboot router etc [11:43] outch [11:43] i keep administrative backups [11:44] Low_lux_ (4f74d869@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.116.216.105) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Hi. I'm getting an error with fsck on boot: http://pastie.org/1081903 Can I get any help with it? It tells me I need to fsck manually. Any idea how ? [11:45] Low_lux_: Is that your root partition? [11:45] SSephi (SSephi@cpc10-live21-2-0-cust101.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: reboot.... [11:45] That looks 100% boned tbh [11:45] Alan_Hicks: Yes [11:45] i have a disk in front of me with the same error (and many more besides) [11:45] Low_lux_: Ouch! It may be completely hosed. [11:45] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:9a0:14db:8a66:e49d:dae8) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:46] Low_lux_: simple answer is boot with slackware disc and fsck from there [11:46] Low_lux_: You can boot from the Slackware install cd and fsck it. That's your best bet. [11:46] Zordrak: Well it dropped me to a root shell, can't I fsck from there ? [11:46] Low_lux_: You can try, but that's just a ramdisk and I'm not certain if it's got fsck or not. [11:46] not if your root partition is mounted [11:47] Low_lux_: well.. yeah.. but if you can do that.. why are you asking? [11:47] Low_lux_: Doing it from the install CD is the best way really, 'cause then you know you've got a solid OS running to fsck from. [11:47] Because I don't know the exact fsck command. Should I just fsck ? Or are there any special parameters [11:47] i think bitlbee's fsck is only for minix [11:47] (that is, the typical boot one, not the install initrd) [11:48] oops, *busybox [11:48] Low_lux_: fsck /dev/sda1 [11:51] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:52] lee555J5 (~irchon@166.137.14.66) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:52] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:57] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:58] ok [11:58] time to test my usb slax [11:58] with over 1GBs worth of modules [11:59] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:9a0:9858:9c94:3eda:e7ac) joined ##slackware. [12:00] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. 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[12:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:18] froze again [12:18] Updating module dependencies for Linux 2.6.27.27 : [12:18] _ [12:18] [12:18] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:18] _ [12:18] [12:18] etc etc [12:19] I never managed to see the module update doing dashes like these [12:19] strange :o [12:20] its just slax bash [12:20] i might try a login [12:20] maybe it just verbosed over the login message [12:20] oh ok, I'm not used to slax .. only tested a minimal version years ago ;) [12:20] nope [12:20] well this has lots of modules [12:21] yep, kind of sexy distro ;) [12:21] 1.5GB ISO [12:21] but .. I felt in love with slackware when I was 13, I can't leave her for another one .. [12:21] ( hm ? ok ok .. my pills ) [12:22] the one I tested was 180M :)) [12:22] heh [12:22] another time, another weight ;) [12:22] I tested slax when i was 10 [12:22] or 9 [12:22] 9 i think [12:22] It was a 186MB ISO i recall [12:22] but this is a custom ISO [12:23] With lots of modules [12:23] m3tti_ (~m3tti@p57B7C641.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] you're pretty young so ;) [12:23] Action: Zbouby is 30 now. [12:23] 13 [12:23] :p [12:23] Action: Kii-kun is 13 [12:23] ok :) [12:23] Action: Kii-kun can develop Windows NT Kernels [12:24] My belief is it's bad for your health ;) [12:24] nope [12:24] Windows NT > Linux [12:24] But i like Mac OS and UNIX bettar [12:24] cr3 (~cr3@h82-143-189-199-static.e-wro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:24] hi [12:24] configure: error: unable to find qmake for QT3 [12:25] how do i install qmake for qt3 on slackware? [12:25] slackpkg search qt [12:25] sbopkg -g qt [12:25] you'll find Qt4 I presume;. [12:25] dunno what i should install [12:25] qt3 is in extra/ [12:25] but [12:25] pdfedit [12:25] stop pushing the enter key :) [12:26] This requires qt3 (from the /extra/kde3-compat packages). [12:26] It might blow !! [12:26] it's extra/upgrade-your-shitty-apps/kde3-compat or something [12:26] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F134.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:26] i have hi quiality enter [12:26] cr3, "source /etc/profile.d/qt3.sh" (maybe the wrong file name) or so [12:27] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:27] thrice`, there is only qt.csh qt.sh qt4.csh qt4.sh [12:28] wow i wish i could get windows ce source [12:28] shohudl there be qt3.sh? [12:28] i've installed qt3 (i think) [12:28] but now i have qt3to4 [12:28] or something [12:28] i went to the dir where sbopkg extracted pdfedit [12:29] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [12:29] and then "qt3to4 gui/pdfedit.pro" , then configure but there's still error [12:30] You just need qmake: [12:30] apt-get install qt3-dev-tools [12:30] the internet says [12:30] but dunno where to get this [12:30] this command is intended to work on debian . [12:30] cr3, use qt.sh [12:30] i know Zbouby [12:31] cr3, you have it in /opt already, but it's not in your $PATH yet. [12:31] either run the source command I have above (with qt.sh), or re-login with your user [12:32] omg [12:32] thx thrice` [12:32] rww (~rww@ubuntu/member/robertwall) joined ##slackware. [12:32] so it should work with SBBOPkg as well right? [12:32] I don't know about SBBOPkg, but sbopkg, probably [12:32] i'm not sure what you mean with that. sbopkg only has 1 purpose: to easily wrap slackware's tools around slackbuilds.org [12:32] sbopkg [12:33] so, if whatever you are trying to install isn't on slackbuilds.org, sbopkg won't do anything :) [12:33] it is [12:33] omg [12:33] checking for docbook xsl... configure: error: unable to find docbook.xsl stylesheet [12:34] cr3, use "su -" instead of "su" [12:35] i used su - [12:35] but i didnt relogin [12:35] i just pressed ctrl D [12:46] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:47] josemanuel (~josemanue@47.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:47] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [12:47] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:48] FINALLY [12:48] it's installing [12:48] rww (rww@ubuntu/member/robertwall) left ##slackware. [12:49] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/pedro-mendes-re-pdfedit-823144/ [12:49] THERE WAS A TYPO IN SlackBuild? [12:49] or wat [12:49] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:49] i do not comprehend, sorry [12:49] i'm not good at this so i dont know if thats a typo or something else [12:49] i mean its wrong version right [12:50] wrong path [12:50] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0A7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [12:50] paissad (~paissad@62.201.142.5) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC0A7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [13:00] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:02] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:02] zx10k1 (~nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [13:04] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] damn... i can hear eth0 :( [13:05] the traffic on eth0, that is [13:05] cr3 (~cr3@h82-143-189-199-static.e-wro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:05] has it occured on anyone before? [13:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:05] zx10k1, yeah [13:06] trhodes, have you solved it? [13:06] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:06] nope :/ onboard sound seems to pick up interrupts and whatnot (like when you have a high load average) [13:06] trhodes, exactly [13:07] i thought it would have to do with interrupts [13:07] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:07] well, i'm not sure if ethernet cards are interrupt driven anymore, but if so, that would explain the noise [13:07] it's really annoying and has forced me to completely turn off the sound on my box [13:07] yeah [13:07] trhodes, what's your mobo? [13:07] it's why pro sound cards are off the mobo (they don't call 'em soundcards at that point) [13:08] mine is a usb card [13:08] biostar K8m800 [13:08] (cheapo) [13:08] heh mine was a cheap one too [13:08] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:08] ;) [13:08] I was getting soundcard feedback, then I disabled onboard sound and put in a soundcard, problem solved [13:09] yeah, that's about all you can expect to do, afaik [13:09] i was getting feedback from mouse and eth0 [13:09] i got a native instruments usb card, that works fine on windows [13:09] you can get a super cheap no name 5.1 dolby soundcard [13:10] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.185.186) joined ##slackware. [13:10] but to be honest i havent tried the onboard card, since my speakers use a trs connector [13:11] anyway, at least im not alone :P [13:11] nope :) [13:11] are you using the right module for that soundcard? [13:12] KaMii, yeah, it used to work ok on my last mobo and my laptop too [13:13] quick (~quick@ip-161-16.powernet.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Nick change: quick -> kr_eten [13:14] btw, someone with similar problems on the kernel bugzilla said that passing irqpoll to the kernel solved their problem [13:15] didn't solve mine (and dunno what it actually does) but anyone with similar probs might want to give it a look [13:15] hi, I am trying to install slack 13.1 on a brand new machine. the cd boots with no problems, but when setup tries to find a source for the packages (DVD) fails [13:15] hmm, makes sense [13:16] it seems kernel maps it to sr0, but for some reasons fail to mount it [13:16] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.30.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] booting from the dvd [with syslinux] is a different procedure than accessing it from linux. the latter requires linux kernel drivers to support your hardware [13:17] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:18] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [13:19] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [13:20] ananke, it seems so, but the DVD have been used many times to install slack with it [13:20] the mobo is new, but it is a pata interface [13:20] the kernel finds it, or at least seems so, but can not mount the disk [13:21] the DVD device, the DVD media is a newly burned one [13:22] wait, you booted with a cd then switched to a DVD? [13:22] no sorry, maybe i have miswritten something [13:23] i boot from DVD, then when the kernel seems to recognize my device and maps it to /dev/sr0 but when setup tries to access it, fails [13:23] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:23] i have tried to mount it manually and it says there is no valid iso or fat system (depending on what i try) [13:23] maybe you need to boot with a different kernel, one that suppors your dvd drive [13:24] the drive should be supported, as i said i have used it to install some slacks, and until yesterday i have used it on my old machine with slack too [13:25] the DVD and one of the HDD is from my old machine, just for information [13:25] paissad (~paissad@62.201.142.5) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:25] did you plug everything into the proper place? [13:25] check bios settings? [13:26] well, i boot from the DVD, so it seems working [13:26] i am almost sure that you can not boot from a device, that is not properly connected [13:27] did you md5sum the .iso file before and after burning? [13:28] well, no [13:28] well, that could be your problem.... [13:28] i rarely do such checks [13:28] telperion (~Adium@186.28.181.90) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ALWAYS check!!! [13:28] and barely know what it is used for :) [13:28] its used to verrify you have an uncorrupted copy [13:29] if the downloaded file is intact? [13:29] yes i understand this now [13:29] your dvd may be corrupt, so its booting, but then it cant mount, no idea, but since you didnt md5sum, hard to say [13:29] well i can do it now :) [13:33] well it seems it is not corrupted [13:33] and i have browsed it on my laptop now [13:33] it seems working and mounting :( [13:34] maybe there is some bios setting that prevents slack to recognize it properly... i will see [13:35] telperion (Adium@186.28.181.90) left ##slackware. [13:35] Why not just md5 the burn dvd? [13:35] burned* [13:35] thats what I thought he did [13:35] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:35] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [13:37] i made md5 on the image [13:37] iso [13:37] well if there is only such an option i will re download it and re burn it [13:37] will see the bios firs [13:37] first [13:38] thanks [13:38] padhu1 (~padhu@112.79.254.98) left irc: Quit: will be back [13:41] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.30.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:42] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:48] sjamma (9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.153.98.203.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:52] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.30.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:52] just to tell you, the problem is in the DVD device indeed [13:52] i have changed it and it seems ok [13:52] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[14:27] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:27] revel0_____ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [14:28] ffmpeg slackbuild script keeps hanging on ffmpeg-0.6/configure (Slackware64) [14:28] and kswapd is at the top of top [14:29] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [14:29] AMD 3300 family:15 [14:30] slackware 64 what vesrion? [14:30] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-gtxlwmouciowasye) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:30] terry? [14:31] terry: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ffmpeg/pkg64/ [14:34] pupit: Thank you. [14:36] Now I see. I must check on http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ for a 64 bit package first (from now on), before just going to slackbuilds.org [14:36] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:36] terry: no. [14:36] you have to learn to change the slackbuild to suit your needs [14:37] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: risah [14:37] not every package you want is there.. [14:38] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:41] having high ass resolution sucks for when you're remotely connecting, gay [14:43] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.185.186) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:44] SSephi (SSephi@cpc10-live21-2-0-cust101.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [14:45] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-8-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:46] zx10k1 (~nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:47] Could anyone recommend a nice firefox Theme? [14:49] the standard? [14:49] slck-o (~cris@189.26.17.35.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:49] a black theme something. [14:50] silvermel but it'sn ot black [14:50] slck-o (~cris@189.26.17.35.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:51] jeev: ok [14:53] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.30.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:55] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:55] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:58] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [15:00] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:00] hackeron_ (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:01] Axius: what are you using [15:01] desktop? [15:01] kde , fluxbox? [15:01] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:01] t0f (1000@dialup-4.238.255.158.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.12.173) joined ##slackware. [15:06] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:08] i have a line of cmds in my mc bindings file and was wondering if i could somehow [esc] the line and continus it on the next line. i've tried the [esc] '\'char and it doesn't work [15:09] continue* [15:09] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:09] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:09] why escape it? just 'cause you want to ? [15:10] no, just to break the line [15:11] a good editor / pager should work with really long lines, if that's part of the problem [15:11] can i put the line in {} perhaps [15:12] actually the line as a whole works as i want it to, but it's getting so long that i can only see hafl of it at a time [15:12] half* [15:13] View=echo ; echo "CONVERTING -> "%f" <- TO WAVE FILE." ; echo ; sox %f %f.wav ; normalize -vvvv %f.wav ; mlame -r %f.wav [15:15] i'm not too familiar with this, but i'm not sure why an escaped break wouldn't work on what appears to be an ordinary shell command [15:15] maybe try inserting a literal ^v before the newline [15:15] ok [15:16] (escape it with \ as well, it doesn't hurt) [15:17] duno what editor you use, but in vim you could, while in insert mode, just hit ctrl+v right in front of the newline (past the \) [15:17] right (; [15:17] not sure about mcedit [15:17] jonsmith1982 (~jon@89.241.11.11) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ah, alright [15:20] any luck with it ? [15:24] whats with firefox showing borders on images when css is set not to? [15:24] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [15:25] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [15:27] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:28] Rand Paul is a stoner. [15:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE_1KlWFJyA&feature=related <- tetris the movie XD [15:34] trhodes: nope, thanks for the ideas anyhow [15:35] ; echo ; ^V \ [15:36] i used vi to insert the ctrl-v [15:37] ctrl+v, at least in interactive use, says to make the next character "verbatim" [15:38] maybe mc is doing something like passing that line to a $SHELL -c but i don't know why that wouldn't work [15:38] (or if that even affects anything) [15:39] firefox is showing borders around some images on a web page when ive specifically told it not too, think it could be a slackware bug? [15:40] http://www.leisure-rangecookers.co.uk/range-cookers check this for same symtoms please. [15:40] jonsmith1982: never saw that before .. that's not the case with another browser ? [15:40] Zbouby, no doesnt happen on other browsers also nor on firefox/Windows [15:40] border around cookers ? [15:40] what version of FF / slack ? [15:41] I haven't any one :$ [15:41] fwiw, nothing looked weird about that page to me [15:41] Action: Zbouby uses ff 3.6.8 on slackware-current x86_64 [15:42] trhodes, newest of each, it shows half a border around the images. [15:42] 3.6.8 & 13.1 [15:42] might you screenshot that on imagebin ? [15:44] wtf, just saved a screen shot and the border is not visible. [15:44] well, that's a hint [15:44] Lanathel (~azure@ppp92-100-91-167.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:44] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:44] Lanathel kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: troll ban [15:44] hmmm I would search around your video driver [15:44] give a try with a huge vesa adapter :D [15:45] you'll not have to keep it... just for testing [15:45] done ksnapshot and that shows half menu [15:45] whiskas (~mc@87.72.242.147) joined ##slackware. [15:45] half border sorry [15:46] http://imagebin.org/108828 [15:46] used a snapshot firefox plugin before. [15:46] jonsmith1982: if you zoom the page using ^+, are images totally black ? [15:47] Zbouby, no [15:47] hmmm it differs from what I have already seens . [15:47] seen* [15:48] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-63-248.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:48] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:48] all the problems of this kind I have seen were some options to tweak for the graphic driver [15:50] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:52] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Zbouby, thanks, i shall bare that in mind. [15:54] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:54] some tries may convince you, vesa is quite riskless ;) [15:55] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [15:55] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:55] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [15:56] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. 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[16:06] shit, eminem - not afraid has 70 million views on youtube [16:07] doesn't surprise me [16:07] everytime he releases a new album.. it goes platinum in like a few days [16:07] i never seen that many [16:07] Axius (~fd@92.84.12.173) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:07] t0f (1000@dialup-4.238.255.158.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: t0f [16:09] whiskas (~mc@87.72.242.147) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] 50 billons of flies eat sh*t ;) [16:12] hhgh (~hhgh@86.142.13.105) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:12] hhgh_ (~hhgh@86.142.13.105) joined ##slackware. [16:13] Zbouby: You're equating Eminem fans with flies? [16:13] popl: outch no, I wouldn't.. [16:14] You just did. [16:14] just to say that the most used things are not always the best. [16:14] Ah. [16:14] this image doesn't work as well in english than in french, my apologies ;) [16:15] ( in english .. I'd rather say, in avg(english) like mine ) [16:15] hhgh (~hhgh@86.142.13.105) joined ##slackware. [16:15] hhgh_ (~hhgh@86.142.13.105) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:16] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:17] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Nick change: dip_ -> dip [16:19] In German there's a saying for something popular you don't like, similar to 'it attracts flies like a turd' [16:21] lol, there's same kind of think in french to say someone should take a shower . [16:24] :) [16:24] hhgh (~hhgh@86.142.13.105) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:25] hhgh (~hhgh@host86-142-13-105.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] hey guys, after upgrading to 13.1 I get an alsa error from audacious No suitable mixer element found [16:30] sound mixer attach failed: No such device [16:30] Barnabyh: did you read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt? [16:30] Oomph, no [16:31] parachutes (~parachute@unaffiliated/parachutes) joined ##slackware. [16:31] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: Gone! [16:31] :S [16:31] parachutes (~parachute@unaffiliated/parachutes) left irc: Client Quit [16:32] 50 billion flies do eat shit though. That's the only way to explain the success of rap, pop, and modern "country". [16:33] yes, you country-loving folks are much more sophisticated :p [16:33] lol Alan_Hicks xD [16:39] hhgh (~hhgh@host86-142-13-105.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:41] Hey guys, if I have the KMS video drivers installed, can I force it to do 800x480 instead of 1024x600 like it wants to? [16:41] I don't care if it's a little fuzzy, really. [16:41] Redb3ard: take a look to xrandr [16:41] Different people have different tastes. Suggesting one is necessarily better than another is separatist. :P [16:42] if want it at startup you can tweak an old xorg.conf file [16:42] or maybe tweaking hal properties .. I never did for screen size. [16:42] I'm not using X. This is merely for the console framebuffer, and a custom SDL app. [16:42] you can disable KMS, but X won't work [16:43] thrice`: he's not using X. :) [16:43] I need KMS. [16:43] will vbetool work? [16:43] I just need a different resolution. [16:43] It's good to read, but I can't see anything in Changes and hints that would actually pertain to my problem [16:43] is it related to udev ? [16:44] Redb3ard, try something like: "video=VGA-1:1024x768@60" [16:45] Thanks thrice. Will do. [16:45] Mowah (~tree@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Redb3ard, where VGA-1 name is your display (from /sys/class/drm or something) [16:46] hitest (~chatzilla@24.207.74.154) joined ##slackware. [16:46] ah .. you can tweak your screen size with lilo ? not ? [16:47] how else would you? [16:47] the video mode is defined.. there are somewhere some arrays with all possible values [16:47] You can tweak it, if you have console framebuffer drivers. [16:47] tekzilla (~jon@d033134.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:47] Zbouby, careful, classic framebuffer is a different animal than KMS [16:47] hmmm your right. [16:47] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [16:48] I did'nt figure it out but you make me think of that .. On the boot sequence when graphic driver is loaded, my resolution goes automatically to the max of my monitor .. [16:48] so I stfu ;) [16:49] tekzilla (~jon@d174156.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. 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[18:37] The-Croupier (thecroupie@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:37] ajna: store the same way you store data. eg. in a seperate partition you wouldnt touch during an installation/upgrade/anything [18:39] also thinking about creating multiple users to limit access to files in spite of the fact that I'm the only user of the system. only account x will have access to data x, y to y, etc. Paranoid? Anyone else doing this? [18:40] im not. someone said he did the other day. i think it was delahunt [18:40] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Only one user will have internet access and no file access other than the default download location. su to that user to connect. not sure how effective this would be if I'm logged in as a different user and working while online. [18:43] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [18:44] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:44] sounds personally like a lot of work to me. But there isn't a right / wrong way to do things. If that is a way of working that makes you comfortable go with it. [18:45] It could also be a security problem since I would have to enter various passwords at various times instead of once at boot. More opportunities for a password to be captured, right? [18:45] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] yeah. I'm a little nuts when it comes to my system. i was using windows and finally got it "locked down", but now I've switched to Slackware and OpenBSD. Entirely different system. [18:46] stevenson (~stevenson@host243-80-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:46] è [18:46] exit [18:46] stevenson (~stevenson@host243-80-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [18:48] I think I'll it a trial run. Thanks for the advice and opinions. [18:49] ajna (ajna@68.235.241.87) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[19:13] Barnabyh (Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [19:14] The-Croupier (thecroupie@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:16] greets [19:25] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:28] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [19:30] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:36] Hi The-Croupier. [19:40] Nick change: risah -> miss_riss [19:42] miss_riss: hiya [19:43] How are you The-Croupier? [19:45] not bad, yourself? [19:47] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:48] Doing laundry, on webcam with my SO, and.. well, preparing to change course. Basically I got into honors so I'm very much hoping to go to Columbia University. So I dumped the MCP plans and now putting more effort into math after I finish this certificate course from University of Illinois. [19:49] miss_riss: i got tired...only by reading it... ;) [19:49] :) [19:49] good luck with that ;) [19:49] Want a massage? [19:49] Action: miss_riss rubs evil hands. [19:49] lol [19:49] miss_riss: thanks ill pass [19:49] No! It's good. [19:49] Take off your shirt. [19:49] My rub rub will make you glub glub. [19:50] you are going to fast for me ;) lol [19:50] lol [19:50] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.211) joined ##slackware. [19:51] california is niceooooo ;) [19:51] Action: The-Croupier sorry irrelevant [19:51] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.73) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:51] I plan to go to Indiana this season or so. [19:51] So if you live there.. or anyone else her eliving there. :D [19:54] im in california...san diego ;) [19:54] Oh. [19:54] Stupid Californian. [19:54] Stupid Californians. [19:55] Brb going to eat the fewd I cook, unlike you Californians so dependent on everything. X) [19:55] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:55] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:57] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] hiya andarius [19:58] greetings and salutations [19:58] salutations The-Croupier [19:59] hows you today [20:00] not too shabby I guess. you? [20:01] DasFox (~chatzilla@udp116220uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] not bad... not bad.. trying to connect some cctv cameras but i have nothing apart from the cameras... [20:03] they are old..dnt know what kind they are or anything ;) [20:04] does slack follow the fhs for /paths? Because all the slackbuilds I see to use, are using /usr/doc and /usr/man which the fhs specifies I believe to /usr/share instead [20:04] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] DasFox, then no, it doesn't :) [20:05] sorry what? [20:05] thrice`: hiya [20:05] DasFox, you just said "I found directories which are not FHS compliant" . so, obviously slackware doesn't follow exactly [20:06] no slack doesn't follow the fhs and when we build pkgs we still typically just use /usr/doc and /usr/man? [20:06] correct [20:06] ahhhh [20:08] I've been filing some bug reports for other problems with RoxTerm and noticed that when I used --prefix=/usr the docs and man were getting installed into /usr/share and for me personally it was the first src I had compiled that did this, personally for me anytime I've compiled something with --prefix=/usr without giving flags for man and doc it just went to /usr/doc and /usr/man so I wasn't... [20:08] ...sure what was going on... [20:09] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-8-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:09] it's quite fair for projects to default mandir to /usr/share/man (and /usr/share/doc of course), since it is typically used on almost every distribution, and what the FHS says [20:09] until I looked at the FHS which I thought it was more specific to Linux, but it's not, it's for Unix and since Slack is the most Unix like, then why isn't it following the FHS? [20:10] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] fireoflife77 (~chano@adsl-68-127-147-243.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] who knows; mostly Pat's preference [20:11] hmm, yeah I thought Pat would of followed that... [20:11] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Action: andarius notes that /usr/share/doc and man are symlinked to /usr/doc and man [20:12] still a bit off, but... [20:12] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d0004bb.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:12] yeah I forgot about them being symlinked, how come they don't look like sym links but just regular dirs? [20:12] it predates my linux time, but was /usr/{doc,man} ever what the FHS specified, and changed at some point? [20:12] are ever going to have a slackware livecd/dvd/usb of some king? [20:13] doesn't slax do that? [20:13] I would wager if anything it has been done the way it is now for much longer than the FHS has been around. the symlinks are added to support it [20:13] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] thrice`: i dont find it the same thing for some reason [20:14] maybe im wrong [20:14] ahhh, yeah I forgot about the symlink for this... [20:14] not sure, I've actually never used slax. really, I don't see a need for yet another live distro, but that's just me :> [20:14] now keep in mind the symlinks are backwards from what the FHS would dictate [20:15] so /usr/doc and /usr/man these top dirs are the sym links and anything places in them gets duplicated then in /usr/share ? [20:15] paissad (~paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [20:15] thrice`: yeah i guess...but it would help alot the slackware funs that dont have a pc ..to have something more familiar ;) [20:15] no, /usr/share/doc and /usr/share/man are the symlinks pointing up one directory level [20:15] simply run "ls -l /usr/share/doc" to see [20:16] well then I'm really lost, if I only compiled as ./configure --prefix=/usr --docdir=/usr/doc --mandir=/usr/man then how the heck did I get them in /user/share? [20:16] or "ls -l /usr/share/{man,doc}" to get them both ;) [20:16] because the configure script probably hard-codes them [20:17] or, the MakeFile ignores them :> [20:17] are they not in /usr/{man,doc} ? [20:17] ahhh ok yeah I was wondering about that, hehe, then I saw in a few build scripts like this: [20:17] mv $PKG/usr/share/doc/$PRGNAM/* $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION/ [20:18] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C641.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] rm -rf $PKG/usr/share/doc $PKG/usr/share/man [20:18] a nice 'rmdir' would be nicer, but [20:19] man I swear all the apps I have compiled over the years just using only --prefix=/usr without any --mandir= or --docdir= just placed them in /usr/doc and /usr/man LOL [20:19] what do you use for codeing [20:19] ? [20:19] Either I knew this stuff at one time and somehow forgot or I don [20:19] I don't know heheh [20:20] oh well now I see with the FHS... [20:21] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:21] I sure would love to see a TOPIC change later up top, 'Why Pat Doesn't Follow The FHS' and some URL to some info... ;) [20:21] THANKS thrice` [20:22] I'll be looking out for that topic change, heheh [20:22] later [20:22] good luck :) [20:22] DasFox (~chatzilla@udp116220uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [20:23] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C641.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:23] m3tti (~user@p57B7C641.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:24] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [20:26] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-44-123.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [20:30] skycrash (sky@187.59.40.35) left ##slackware. [20:30] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[21:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.234.86) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [21:14] hey did you guys know its 8-9-10 day? [21:15] and at 11 tonight you'll also have 8/9/10 11:12:13 [21:16] only for those countries adhering to mm/dd/yy [21:16] the others get to have it in september [21:16] mcury (~mcury@189.24.15.62) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:18] Skywise: I prefer the tenth of October, about ten minutes after ten . ;) [21:20] nophis (~nophis@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [21:20] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.1.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:22] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:22] gnoel (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:22] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-24-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:22] v3gard_ (~v3gard@v3gard.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] usus12jari (~ashe@118.96.237.58) joined ##slackware. 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[21:40] 8910 [21:40] Channel flood from miss_riss -- kicking [21:40] Hi. :D [21:40] miss_riss kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:40] miss_riss (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [21:40] Go die slackboy. [21:40] lol...whoosh* [21:43] it was 16:18:20 earlier today and will be 10:11:12 in a little while [21:45] good observation,Skywise..that's a cool way of putting it all in perspective..;) [21:48] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@200.138.73.191) joined ##slackware. [21:49] when I realized today consisted of consecutive numbers..this got stuck in my mind from my recollections of my youth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinball_Number_Count [21:51] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [21:52] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-5-47.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:11] bad tan cream? hmmm...kinda reminds me of David Dickinson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dickinson now,that's orange [22:11] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:12] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:12] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:12] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [22:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.192.81) joined ##slackware. [22:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:18] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:19] MLanden, someone on the wikipedia discussion has a good point, in that he might also be an alcoholic. 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John Boehner's unusual tan [22:27] lmao [22:27] tenfn (tt@unaffiliated/samuel9999) joined ##slackware. [22:28] okay, now THAT is funny [22:28] I'm running rsync as a daemon on a system here, and rsync is running as root. so why is it that it would get permission denied on some dirs and files when the one allowed client connects to sync? [22:28] http://boehnerbooze.wordpress.com/ [22:31] how can we get the system temp of the computer? [22:31] what's a good test I can run to verify that my machine is indeed using all its memory, ie. whether or not the high memory 4GB value in my kernel is setup properly? [22:31] WhiteMagic (~white@client41-net214.acfr.usyd.edu.au) joined ##slackware. [22:31] jhw (~jhw@p548D7105.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:31] herbz: lm_sensors [22:31] hebz, you'll have to have the sensors [22:32] boehner has had too much orange juice [22:32] byteframe, good post (and he does look like he's about to toss his cookies) [22:32] jhw (~jhw@p548D6F72.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] shonudo, haha [22:33] herbz: you'll need to have the kernel configured to provide that output [22:33] type sensors [22:33] if it's not setup, it'll print that out [22:34] What's a good simple image viewer for X that would have zoomin features? [22:34] I don't like display [22:34] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:34] dam and I need to recompile the kernel [22:34] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [22:34] gqview [22:34] slackwares generic and huge kernels support most common hardwdare sensors [22:35] andarius: Will look, thanks [22:35] check out "sensors-detect" and "sensors" [22:35] the answer is: cat /proc/meminfo [22:35] yw [22:35] initself++ # you rule! [22:35] initself: apropos is a good command ;) [22:37] rirombo: few others you can also try are gpicview and viewnior [22:37] thx andarius [22:37] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.221.146) joined ##slackware. [22:37] herbz: yw [22:38] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:39] ristretto isnt too shabby of an image viewer either [22:40] true,andarius...that's another good one as well [22:41] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:46] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:46] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:47] You know, if we aren't talking about something (I just got back I dunno if we are) we could talk about a taboo here.. proper hygiene.. I just wanna know if anyone here tried home teeth whitening. [22:48] lol [22:49] boredom takes the first victim [22:49] heh [22:50] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.180) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:50] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.180) joined ##slackware. [22:51] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:53] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@200.138.73.191) left irc: Quit: i'm chargin mah lazer [22:53] hba (~hba@189.130.56.208) joined ##slackware. [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:55] Hey, shonudo. How is it going? [22:56] rirombo: it goes well; how are things going for you? [22:56] i can see you're still working on getting your slackware install set up just right [22:59] i guess some jetblue flight attendant snapped today [23:00] hba (~hba@189.130.56.208) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:02] hahahahaha [23:02] that flight attendent shit was hilarious [23:02] attendant [23:02] dieter- (~dieter@84-23-67-251.blue.kundencontroller.de) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:02] jeev: he flips out on a passenger, grabs some beer, and pulls the trigger on the inflatable exit ramp thing [23:03] (grabs some beer!) [23:03] lol [23:03] MLanden, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skdwrdVSjjo [23:04] i know that shit was hilarious but it was the passengers fault [23:04] dieter- (~dieter@84-23-67-251.blue.kundencontroller.de) joined ##slackware. [23:04] they say there's a facebook fan page where they're collecting donations for legal fee's. lol [23:04] the sutpid passenger should go to jail [23:04] byteframe: lol [23:05] hehe, this is good shit. [23:08] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:09] shonudo: Sorry, got called away. Doing all right, but yes, still trying to make everything work right :) [23:16] Freejack` (~Freejack@97-81-235-122.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] Freejack` (~Freejack@97-81-235-122.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:17] bleeding|edge (fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left ##slackware ("I guess i had to go to that place to get to this one...."). [23:18] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:20] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [23:26] hba (~hba@189.130.56.208) joined ##slackware. [23:29] artaud (~artaud@187.58.99.92) joined ##slackware. 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