[00:00] so there's no way to force lilo to use hda instead of hdb? [00:01] Action: pirving wonders if man lifo.conf works [00:01] nevermind, i'm figuring it out [00:02] ok I ve got the content of extra/kde3-compat/, should I now do the installpkg * ? eviljames ? [00:03] bzzzzz (n=user@213.149.138.222) joined ##slackware. [00:05] Reticenti: this might help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/slackware-12-forgot-install-lilo-615181/ [00:07] thanks hitest, but the expert mode had what I needed :) [00:10] also, google chrome is pretty awesome [00:10] bzzzzz (n=user@213.149.138.222) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] ok , can I install kdelibs3.5 and Qt3 not doing any harm to slackware ? [00:12] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-199-224-81-26-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Reticenti: glad you got it sorted out [00:15] mrpwnage, it's not something i recommend doing. we have sudo for the purposes of having the root user do things. [00:15] that is Init ! [00:16] 1 [00:16] oops [00:18] firedix (n=firedix@host7.190-231-144.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:19] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "So long sukkas!" [00:19] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:19] procyonlabs (n=randy@pool-71-179-252-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:24] hrm.. anybody have some ideas on things I should/could try to measure in comparing my day-to-day system's performance/resource usage and the stripped-down one I'm building? [00:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:24] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:24] LTS, linux test suite [00:25] ltp or lbs [00:25] bah, both [00:26] ltp. [00:26] it is cold here [00:27] WTF [00:27] They just mentioned linux on Criminal Minds [00:27] Action: eviljames changes the channel [00:27] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211fe.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [00:27] lol. [00:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:28] even have an open source hacker chick as a character on the show? [00:28] nix_chix0r: are off doing a cameo somewhere? [00:28] something something something dark side, something something something complete [00:30] Criminal Minds? got a link? [00:30] fatalnix1995: lmgtfy.com/?q=criminal minds [00:31] fatalnix1995: type "criminal minds wikipedia" into firefox address bar. [00:31] Yeah I've been searching [00:31] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:34] hmm. The show seems interesting, is it any good? [00:34] no [00:34] I don't watch tv. [00:34] http://www.sparkynet.com/spag/j.html#jacaranda [00:35] Alan has a rather disgusting beard [00:35] which alan [00:35] maybe he was modeled after RMS [00:35] hey I did installpkg -otheroot /opt kdevelop-3.5.3-i486-3.tgz /opt, but it seems that /usr/bin/kdevelop was overwritten arghhhhhh. [00:36] fatalnix1995: not particularly, but I just leave A&E on in the bg sometimes [00:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:37] hrm, no, he was someone in England [00:38] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-87-58-173.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] I assume the Alan above is Alan Cox? [00:39] alan cox is very funny, imo [00:39] eviljames: hey how it's possible it overwrite my orginal installation ? [00:39] paul424: removepkg, then installpkg [00:39] I would not know. [00:39] paul424: or do you mean to downgrade to slackware 12.2? [00:40] no I just wanted to have kdevelop 4 and kdevelop 3.5 both installed. [00:40] elderK (n=zk@125-238-255-198.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:40] Hey people! [00:41] I was wondering if anyone would be keen in helping me decide what WM to run :) [00:41] paul424: you can probably build yourself a kdevelop3 package, if you install kde3-compat from the extra/ packages [00:41] and, if possible, any tips on generating color schemes :) [00:41] I'm pretty bad with eyesight, and I intend to be using this all on a laptop :) so, visibility is important. [00:41] elderK: the answer is always kde4 [00:41] and thus, little room can be wasted on things like panels and what not. [00:41] Why always KDE4? [00:42] i'm a fan anyhow. it works how a wm should work, in my eyes [00:42] and i keep collecting plasmoids.. i probably have 8 on my desktop atm [00:43] Action: paul424 sights [00:43] i like kde4 [00:44] don;'t you remember ... you adviced to install the second copy in /opt by installpkg -root /opt package.txz [00:44] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Tired..can't go on..." [00:44] well, I've used KDE4 and 3, and I did for quite some time. [00:44] upps [00:44] but the point is, I'm always using those things at a desktop, with mouse and whatnot. [00:44] and I'm close tot he screen, very close. [00:44] in this case, I'll be far enough from the screen that text will begin to blur highly. [00:44] and I will not have an external mouse, I'll have a trackpad. [00:45] so, (keyboard|vis)ability is important [00:48] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [00:49] Mostly though, I think the most critical aspect will actually be color scheme and font size. [00:49] :) [00:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Well I wasn't even that motivated to say anything, but I know google takes your name off the google beta release notification after so many days, and I got an email today at 1pm from google saying its ripe. Figured at least someone was interested. [00:51] google chrome* [00:53] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-199-224-81-26-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:53] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:56] wow I have a new theory [00:57] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] it's called all theories can't be absolute [00:58] And? [00:58] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:59] Nick change: fatalnix1995 -> fatalnix [00:59] well, why give away a good idea like that? i'm going to sleep on it.. goodnight al. [00:59] all....* ;) [01:01] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:01] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [01:02] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:02] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [01:03] fatalnix: no one cares [01:03] fatalnix: go tell ##c [01:03] go away. [01:06] Man, I worship GNU Screen. [01:08] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:08] :) [01:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:10] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [01:11] screen = ++useful; [01:17] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:17] however, eviljames != useful [01:18] also true [01:22] jeev: go to sleep [01:22] it's late [01:22] nop [01:23] fine no cookies and milk for you [01:23] deco = http://www.ratemymullet.com/show.php?id=40 [01:23] eviljames = http://www.ratemymullet.com/show.php?id=48 [01:24] jeev: lol nah i don't have much hair [01:24] jeev: but eviljames' is right on [01:24] infact, everyone in here but me is on ratemymullet.com [01:25] i'm on ratemyrack.com [01:25] hmmm - I must have missed it since I don't believe I'm on it [01:26] http://www.ratemymullet.com/show.php?id=37 there you are [01:26] hah! [01:26] lol [01:26] I haven't had that much hair since the 70's in high school' [01:28] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Connection timed out [01:30] elderK (n=zk@125-238-255-198.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: ""Technical Issues"" [01:32] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:34] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Connection timed out [01:37] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:45] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:54] gouranga (n=kevin@ip72-201-38-214.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:02] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:02] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:04] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:06] I don't suppose anyone knows of disastrous consequences from being lazy about cache updates like the font, icon etc ones at boot? [02:06] not so much disasterous, but _extremely_ annoying [02:07] however - the caches only change when you add/remove/change fonts/icons/etc, so updating cache is not needed at boot, only when adding/removing/updating etc. [02:08] yeah, that seems to be the general consensus.. I'm building a custom rl at the moment [02:09] initial install or package updates would be the only required update cache options, so that should be the only real consideration on your custom [02:12] yeah, essentially boot to a normal runlevel, then telinit or reboot to my custom one [02:15] neil__ (n=neil@ppp121-44-26-52.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@75.111.161.89) joined ##slackware. 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[02:29] I believe it's set in one of the X setup scripts [02:30] alisonken1noc: in /etc/X11 [02:31] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [02:32] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:35] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "Mwahahahahahahaha :)" [02:36] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [02:37] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [02:38] ¹0morning. [02:39] morning acidchild [02:39] sup [02:40] not much, just messing with Thunderbird 3.0. You? [02:40] laying in bed, staring at the computer screen [02:40] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:42] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] great eh/ [02:43] lol [02:43] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. 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[03:16] lol [03:16] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [03:16] hey, what do you guys think about dell vostro laptop ? anyone using it ? [03:17] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-16.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:17] anavel: what OS are you planning to install ? [03:17] slackware of course. :D [03:18] and windows XP. [03:19] beside that, i've read that dell re-inforced it with magnesium alloy. Is that claim true ? [03:19] http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/notebooks/vostronb/ct.aspx?refid=vostronb&s=bsd&cs=04 [03:20] that 13" looks interesting [03:20] Action: wollw is looking to get a cheap laptop/netbook [03:21] the 1014 is about 619. [03:21] what specs is 619 [03:21] jeev: i think that is cost :D [03:21] ? [03:22] im curuios on the specs [03:22] The cose of Lapi [03:22] it's on the site [03:22] that are 619, i want to show you somethin else [03:22] shows 429 here. [03:22] basically, T5870, 2 GB DDR2, 250 GB HDD, intel 4500 shared vga. [03:23] l0lwut (n=lolwut@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [03:23] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:24] i have a thing with latitudes [03:25] what's your budget [03:30] 650 [03:30] how big hd [03:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] 250gb is enough. [03:30] you're not interested in 80gb eh [03:31] nope. gonna install multiple OS there. [03:31] jeev | i have a thing with latitudes <--- what do you mean ? [03:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [03:31] i love dell latitudes [03:31] you can get a refurb, P8600 80gig 7200rpm, 2gb ram [03:31] for 649 [03:31] anyone have an opinion on the system76 starling netbook? [03:32] never heard of it [03:32] http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=92 [03:32] what's so special with latitudes ? [03:32] anavel, i think they're built better [03:32] it's their actual business class [03:32] vostro is low end [03:32] i can't stand netbooks man, can't type on them [03:32] i see. But it cost a lot more :< [03:33] it's a better processor.. [03:33] better buil [03:33] Action: init[1] wish something went wrong with slackware,feeling so bored with _no-issues_ :( [03:33] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:33] lol. [03:33] Action: init[1] :D [03:34] iirc refurbished = old laptop repaired and polished ? [03:34] boo hoo [03:34] no man [03:34] dells refurb's are like brand new, i've probably bought 300 and never had any calls about problems [03:35] here is a 14.1 inch, P8600 2.4ghz core 2 duo 3mb cache, 2 gb ram, 160 gig 5400 rpm, 256 mb quadro nvs 160m [03:35] 649 [03:35] :O [03:35] init[1] port someth [03:35] for 659, can get same but 4gb ram.. except no quadro [03:36] mornin [03:36] you're not interested eh [03:36] hmmm [03:36] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [03:36] yo [03:36] that's E6400 latitude model [03:36] what about lenovo ? is it as good as when it was IBM's ? [03:37] Her0 (n=JKemp@174-158-231-71.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] i have 4 lenovo's [03:37] i know a guy who says that he's not satified with a non-linux Lenovo [03:37] i only have them because.... i got them for free [03:37] well i bought one, at a heavy discount [03:37] i just dislike it, sorry [03:37] and he cant find a dist thatll work on his lappy; i encourage him to wait alittle bit and retry [03:37] annoying with the function button on the bottom left, rather than control [03:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Installed slack on a friends comp he wanted xdm so he commented out some shizz in /etc/rc.d/rc.4 and now he gets erros at boot and Respawning to fast Disabled [03:38] i got slack running on them.. one is a s10 netwbook shit i gave to my brother [03:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:38] for 5 minutes. [03:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Can't seem to boot, so he can't change the files back. Any way to fix this ? [03:38] but mine are high end ones (at the time) 2.53ghz core 2 duo, 80gig sata, the other on is a small 12.1 and the best one i have is a core 2 duo 2.8ghz 4gb ram, 64gig ssd [03:38] guy is not a linuxer [03:39] Her0: http://codepad.org/KseiFbIy [03:39] That's what my xdm rc.4 looks like [03:40] wollw tell him to start X manually [03:40] Thats fine, but he can't boot into a terminal or anything [03:40] Thanks jeev. Will reviewing my choices again. [03:40] show howto boot other runlevels [03:40] Cause it tries to run rc.4 and fails...with those errors. [03:40] tripFantastic: yeah, i'd be doing that myself except my laptop's screen is dead [03:40] ew [03:40] plug in a crt [03:40] visit a thrift store to find one [03:40] pl [03:40] it need not be new [03:41] ok [03:41] Is there a way from LiLo line to boot into run level 3 automatically so he can login that way and change it ? [03:41] I'm using an external monitor [03:41] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] anavel, i've called dell support for new computers more than i have for refurb.. and i've called lenovo, trust me. you'd rather want to deal with dell [03:41] but i can't use the external screen without X, or at least i don't know how to [03:41] although if you claim you know about computers, they still make you run the stuff over the phone [03:41] Action: nix_chix0r sneezes on jeev [03:41] nasty [03:41] heh [03:41] Action: tripFantastic hands out wipes [03:41] Action: jeev blows his nose on nix_chix0r [03:42] ew [03:42] by blowing my nose, i put my thumb on one nostrol, blow with my nose [03:42] or push out, whatever [03:42] ew [03:42] then the other nostrol [03:42] and i make a funny wiggle with my hand as i do it [03:42] stril [03:42] sure, nostril [03:42] ew ew ew [03:43] Her0: init=1 or perhaps single, it's been a long time... [03:43] gooden nighten [03:43] no, not that [03:43] append a digit [23] to the lilo start cmd [03:44] thatll indicate the runlevel to start with [03:44] take what tripFantastic says with a grain of salt. i would not follow his advice blindly [03:44] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:44] so just type init=1 at LILO prompt? [03:44] no [03:44] just a digit [03:44] Sorry, im used to Grub so still learning stuff wit LILO [03:44] 2 or 3 [03:44] jeev, oh man [03:45] linuxlabel 1 [03:45] snot x5 [03:45] yes [03:45] linuxlabel 3 [03:45] Her0 (n=JKemp@174-158-231-71.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:46] her0 there's a readme in /usr/doc/lilo [03:46] or google it [03:48] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@87.13.234.73) joined ##slackware. [03:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host99-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-16.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:51] umopepisdn: I'm sorry you didn't read. Sorry, late reponse. [03:52] fuckfuckfuckfuck. [03:52] i think i just remotely fubared a system. [03:53] spook: \o/, remote fsck up ftw!! :P [03:53] no. not ftw. [03:53] spook: I hope at least it wasn't someone elses. [03:53] s/ftw/ftl/ [03:53] spook: what happened? [03:53] its a business i contract for. [03:54] uh oh [03:54] hmmm, lets see, i believe i used slackpkg to update from a slackware-13.0 mirror. [03:54] on a slackware64-13.0 system. [03:54] serves you right for doing it remotely [03:54] ouch [03:54] umopepisdn`: lol what? excuse me? [03:56] well, fix it before libs get unloaded from memory... [03:56] i'd love to but. [03:56] -su: /sbin/upgradepkg: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [03:57] yikes [03:57] uh oh. [03:57] hence my fuckfuckfuckfuck. [03:57] thats the same response from an rm -rf /, I wonder how that came to be [03:57] not that that happened [03:57] because it means a hour long round trip this week :( [03:57] bash somehow got upgraded to 4.0, i486 [03:57] i dont know how. [03:58] and instead of saying cannot execute binary file it just does that? [03:59] root@gapserver:/tmp# upgradepkg --install-new bash-3.1.017-x86_64-2.txz is what gives me that error [03:59] ideas? [03:59] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]" [03:59] you can try scping it in and just untarring in / if they still work... or just overwritem them for a moment. [04:00] no thats way too messy [04:00] it uses diff libc ? [04:00] hiptobecubic_ (n=john@75.111.189.11) joined ##slackware. [04:00] cant you use removepkg and installpkg instead? [04:00] -su: /sbin/removepkg: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [04:00] I figured. [04:00] spook: you can force/upgrade later to have clean pkg db. [04:01] since pkgtools uses bash during script execution, it doesn't help to delete the shell just when you need it :) [04:01] well yeah untarring in / isnt ALL too messy, just do that, be sure to run ldconfig afterwards in case it installs any libs.. [04:01] real men use tarballs, not packages [04:02] might want to boot from installcd and just installpkg onto your mounted drive from the cd/usb [04:02] alisonken1noc: hour long round trip [04:02] :) [04:02] umopepisdn I install mostly everything via source, but to be honest, it usually doesn't matter. [04:02] spook: wah wah [04:02] or setup a boot partition _just_ for remote updating things like bash [04:03] i didnt try to update bash [04:03] i dont know why slackpkg did [04:03] with a remote serial port console [04:03] how about copy statically compiled bash ? [04:03] or use busybox [04:03] after i fix this that will be my next invesigation. [04:03] spook: explodepkg locally that 64bit binary and scp in whatever you are missing along the way. [04:03] how about "screw spook" if he's just whining on IRC instead of creatively thinking of solutions himself [04:03] Wdyy (n=AndChat@117.136.27.249) joined ##slackware. [04:03] spook is clearly a whiney little noob. [04:03] alisonken1noc: that is very simple and easy to do, but i'm trying to avoid travel [04:04] umopepisdn`: hahaha. [04:04] Well we certainly know who's going through their period now don't we spook? [04:04] Action: fatalnix peers at umopepisdn` [04:04] haha [04:04] lol [04:04] :) [04:04] contrary to your belief i'm actually fixing this myself, i just wanted to sound some ideas off you guys [04:05] Action: sladegen makes hollow noises. [04:05] spook: unlike some other comments, the regulars here understand that :) [04:06] food sounds good to me, its 4am [04:06] unlike some of the regulars here, some other people realize that someone did break a system [04:06] fatalnix: you win the prize, your idea worked. [04:07] but i did have to go that one step further and apply the doinst.sh by hand [04:07] umopepisdn`: and you've never hosed a system before on a remote update? [04:07] this was my first time. [04:07] a wise admin uses safe-guards when baffling about as root [04:07] spook: that's what she said [04:08] :P [04:08] fire|bird: lol. [04:08] umopepisdn`: you sound like a real ubuntu user [04:08] umopepisdn`: that wasn't the question [04:09] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] alisonken1noc: no, I have not because I do not use silly package managers. [04:09] oh yes those package managers, always making our lives so hard [04:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:10] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:10] it quite handy for uninstall [04:11] and being able to have a good understanding of what's in your system without resorting to notebooks [04:11] real admins do not install stuff they need to uninstall [04:11] okay thats better, its not trying to upgrade bash this time [04:11] oh have I got a messed up story to tell. [04:11] as noted, though, he wasn't uninstalling, and yes - sometimes uninstall of selected items is needed [04:11] right, they just rm -rf /usr/local from time to time /facepalm. [04:12] alisonken1noc: obviously she/he is beyond reason [04:12] here's 5 cents, get yourself a real system: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ [04:12] umopepisdn`: been there done that. [04:12] works great until you have 2000+ systems to maintain [04:12] take your trolling elsewhere. [04:12] and yes, I've done lfs before [04:12] Action: umopepisdn` wanders off. [04:12] lol [04:12] friend of mine calls up, I've had him use sackware for a couple months now, he calls on me today and asks why apt-get doesnt work, apparently he read an ubuntu tutorial.. [04:12] hah [04:13] umopepisdn`: lfs is great except as alisonken1noc said, i have about 20 systems to manage [04:13] and I have a lot more than 20 [04:13] and that's just in one rack [04:13] i'm only a 21 year old student. [04:13] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [04:13] I went through lfs twice successfully, it was quite fun [04:13] sweet! [04:14] Action: fatalnix shares a drink with Spook. I'm 21 too [04:14] spook: and? I have several 21 y/o students I work with in the noc [04:14] don't belittle yourself for trying to improve [04:14] spook, you're not 21 you're 100=o [04:14] alisonken1noc: i dont have to be awake or any place at any time to earn my money, i do it all remotely after initial setup [04:15] spook: however, the "21 yo student" remark is belittling yourself the way you posted it [04:15] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:15] alisonken1noc: it means my priorities are on my studies, not earning money yet. [04:16] spook: noted - I was just pointing out the way you stated it wasn't exactly flattering [04:16] Apria (n=Apria@65.48.179.106) joined ##slackware. [04:16] i dont try to build myself up. [04:16] niko (i=niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [04:16] fatalnix, did you just shut down one of my servers [04:16] there's a difference between building yourself up and knowing what you can do [04:17] i heard it shutdown [04:17] wasnt me [04:17] wasn't me [04:17] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-141-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:17] dangit [04:17] since when do I look like a hacker to you? [04:17] Wdyy (n=AndChat@117.136.27.249) left irc: "Bye" [04:17] must have been my cat [04:17] fatalnix: hacker or cracker? [04:17] alisonken1noc: how old are you ? [04:17] I just study some of it because its essential for a programmer to know [04:17] it was a script kittie [04:17] neither to be honest [04:17] anavel: retired from the Navy in 1996 [04:17] 8-) [04:17] ChickenLittle, hehehe [04:18] ah [04:18] =but if you want to be a web designer especially, it's important [04:18] seriously i'm the only one in the living room right now.. and i heard it shut down [04:18] so cat or dead granny [04:18] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] I don't crack [04:18] that's toastytoast. he loves those puzzles [04:19] patterns make me go crazy [04:19] fatalnix: thats the point :) (your statement to nix_chix0r) [04:19] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [04:20] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.0.122) joined ##slackware. [04:20] alien_bob (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] ok. its 4:17 in the morning here and I feel tired, just not ready to call it a night.. [04:20] alien_bob (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:20] ChickenLittle: hi twinreverb [04:21] spook: fyi - from my pov, although I help maintain the noc, I defer _a lot_ of stuff to the 21yo student here because he knows more about kernel stuff than I do [04:21] and he likes to play with the kernel [04:21] hi [04:21] HEY EVERYONE, say hi to ChickenLittle/TwinReverb! [04:21] alisonken1noc: and himself! [04:21] HEY CHICKENLITTLE [04:21] =) [04:22] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:22] snL20: I'll leave that part to his imagination :) as long as it's not in my noc when I'm around [04:22] what? i admitted it earlier [04:22] alisonken1noc: ;) [04:22] although i have changed my nickname concept [04:22] this is a real life nickname [04:22] I really need a new nickname [04:22] they all link to my "get real" nick which is my last name [04:23] i disowned TwinReverb however, it's no longer registered [04:23] Levia (i=Levia@freenode/staff/levia) joined ##slackware. [04:23] ChickenLittle: hehe [04:23] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.17) joined ##slackware. [04:24] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Action: snL20 steals ChickenLittle's friends [04:24] Reav_1 (n=Reav_1@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Action: ChickenLittle doesn't care [04:24] he disowned winreverb cause that nick had pissed too many people off [04:24] yeah pretty much [04:24] nyRednek: lol [04:24] Levia (i=Levia@freenode/staff/levia) left ##slackware ("I'm not very good at making up quit messages."). [04:25] your irc nickname might be a pseudo identity but there's nothing stopping anyone from spoofing them / using random ones [04:25] lol nyRednek [04:26] starting a new chapter, eh ? [04:26] Action: snL20 is getting star trek the original series 1 on blu =) [04:26] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [04:29] Levia (i=Levia@freenode/staff/levia) joined ##slackware. [04:30] ~~~/nick firetruck [04:30] oops [04:30] Nick change: fatalnix -> firetruck [04:31] fire fire fireeee [04:31] heh...typed too much [04:31] Morn [04:32] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.34.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:32] snL20, um did they have archived high-res film they cut the highdef from? or is it just so you can have the entire original series? [04:36] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.17) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:37] nix_chix0r, http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/10/funny-pictures-linux/ [04:37] hehehehhee [04:37] totally something my cat does [04:37] cept she is a maine coon:| [04:37] so 30lbs heavier [04:38] alien_bob (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:39] bazhang (n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang) joined ##slackware. [04:39] ChickenLittle: I dont know... its 7 discs [04:40] seven ... bluerays? holy krap how many years did that thing run? [04:40] ChickenLittle: that's just the first season [04:40] :o [04:41] morning [04:41] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html <- aka don't install untrusted package >< [04:41] ChickenLittle: of course there are Special Features [04:42] dang how much special features? [04:42] ChickenLittle: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Original-Season-Blu-ray/dp/B001TH16DS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1260351427&sr=1-6 [04:43] i smell something fishy [04:43] i'd hope those aren't just 640x480 -> blueray just to make a buck [04:43] Nick change: firetruck -> fatalnix [04:44] fishy..... think that was.....nvm [04:44] o.O [04:45] Apria (n=Apria@65.48.179.106) left irc: K-lined [04:45] I managed to somehow double up my laptops pixels, setting my resolution higher than it can physicly do, all I have to do to get higher than 1024x768 now is just add Scaled at the end of the resolution. I think that is really neat. [04:45] bazhang (n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:46] ChickenLittle: http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/21/review-star-trek-the-original-series-season-1-blu-ray/ [04:47] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [04:47] i know i watched it [04:47] Levia (i=Levia@freenode/staff/levia) left ##slackware ("I'm not very good at making up quit messages."). [04:48] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) got netsplit. [04:48] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [04:48] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) got netsplit. [04:48] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) got netsplit. [04:48] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) got netsplit. [04:48] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) got netsplit. [04:48] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [04:48] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got netsplit. [04:48] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got netsplit. 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[04:53] burn out, not the first time its had problems. [04:54] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) got lost in the net-split. [04:54] the idiot who made it basicly connected the mainboard to the ac with resistor wire that shorted out easily [04:55] idiot who designed it at least [04:55] friend had a surge that did cause his charger to explode..lucky 'nought to trip the breaker and clean up...only damage was a new wall socket [04:56] s/nought/nough [04:56] ah. [04:57] I noticed my charger had beed getting extremely hot the past few days [04:57] abnormally [04:58] fatalnix: north or south of the equator?...just askin' in case you are north...'tis winter..:P [04:59] Yes, Maine, US.. so definately up there [04:59] but what about it? [04:59] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [05:00] just jokin' on how warm they can get(the charger I mean) [05:00] oh [05:00] when I was in hs my room used to get over 100 [05:00] in the summer, because of all the computers I was running [05:01] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. 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[05:01] I'd leave my windows closed but shades up, doors closed, a bunch of giant crt's on, amonst a lot of other junk [05:01] well that's non-intuitive :) [05:01] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: SendQ exceeded [05:02] exhausting window fans are the way to go [05:02] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [05:02] heh. [05:02] we just dont get those kind of temperatures here [05:02] where? [05:02] we are lucky to see it get to 80, usuallyonly to 70 or so [05:02] Maine [05:03] use car window tinting [05:03] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [05:03] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got netsplit. [05:03] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got netsplit. [05:03] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) got netsplit. [05:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) got netsplit. [05:03] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) got netsplit. [05:03] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) got netsplit. 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[05:04] walmart has em [05:04] auto section [05:04] I didn't take autobody at voc, I chose robotics engineering instead :D [05:04] you dont need to [05:05] helps [05:06] while you're messing with the tinting, if it becomes to difficult to flatten, take it down, fold it up loosely, rinse in water, reapply and sqeegy [05:06] the water reactivates static [05:06] s/reactivates/adds [05:06] k [05:06] ic [05:06] neat [05:07] yea, it is [05:07] i tinted by southern windows; it helps in florida. [05:07] reminds me of those static sticker books you give to children [05:07] western i mean [05:07] right [05:07] remember those? [05:07] i just wish i could tint the roof :) [05:07] i do [05:07] I'm pretty sure that's how they do it [05:07] yep [05:08] actually, I believe the water reintroduces vacuum tension between 2 non-porous surfaces rather than static [05:08] ah [05:08] well here comes smarty pants! [05:08] :D [05:09] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) got lost in the net-split. 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[05:36] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:36] hi there [05:37] I have small issue with iwconfig and my Access Point [05:37] when my machine lost signal from AP and after a while AP returns my machine do not connect again to this AP [05:39] using wicd? [05:44] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [05:44] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got netsplit. [05:44] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got netsplit. [05:44] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) got netsplit. [05:44] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) got netsplit. [05:44] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) got netsplit. [05:44] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) got netsplit. [05:44] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [05:44] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) got netsplit. [05:44] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) got netsplit. 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[06:19] i need to share some sensitive info with my wife who is in the states (i'm in Japan) but i can't think of anything [06:19] ssh came to mind using my web account shell but it didn't work last time [06:19] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:20] there's a javascript? console available somewhere that has encryption available, otherwise the only other thing I can think of is something like pidgin otr [06:22] spiegel (n=spike@ip-166-187.interbild.net) joined ##slackware. [06:25] ChickenLittle: why the need for encryption? [06:25] ChickenLittle: encrypt your email using thunderbird and the enigmail plugin (gpg encryption) [06:25] However, clueless otehr side... perhaps not [06:25] ananke, social security numbers, bank accounts [06:25] i need to give them / get them to/from my wife [06:26] and i'm at a base notorious for foreign intelligence gathering [06:26] yeah, i can't imagine the other party being easily able to generate a gpg/pgp key [06:26] Any XMPP protocol with added encryption. Look at Jabber, GoogleTalk [06:26] i was thinking a password-encrypted file using gpg [06:26] ChickenLittle: i'd go with enigmail.. although in my case running an ssl imap server that only me and the missus have access to i wouldnt rally be worried enough to [06:26] i know but she would need to get a Jabber login [06:27] Well _that_ is not hard [06:27] ChickenLittle: yes, but you'd need to encrypt it with a public key, and your wife would have to have the corresponding private key [and password to it] [06:27] password encrypted is probably going to be good enough i would imagine if only for one time use [06:27] my wife has several of my very hard to guess passwords on flie [06:28] guax (n=guaxinim@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [06:28] b0tnet (n=void@c-24-18-166-248.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] hello, whats the preferred method of enabling write access to ntfs volumes? [06:28] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] doesn't mac's filer have ability to prompt for passwords for zip files? [06:28] wow that was super fail [06:29] b0tnet, ntfs-3g [06:29] If it is so important, you or your wife should create a GPG key for her right away. This will surely not be the only time you need it [06:29] ananke, password zip files usually suck [06:29] is there a slackbuild for said item, ChickenLittle? [06:29] i know i used to have her set up with a key combo but i'm not there to do it for her type problem [06:29] b0tnet: it is in Slackware [06:29] b0tnet, it's included in slackware 13 [06:29] ChickenLittle: you wanted convenience for somebody who's less technical [06:29] /sbin/mnt.ntfs-3g [06:30] er mount [06:30] man mount.ntfs-3g [06:30] hmm, because, having just formatted a partition to ntfs, as root, i get either operation not supported or permission denied in trying to create a file in the volume [06:30] ananke, i know thanks for the suggestions it's just a pain in the @$$ [06:30] a much easier solution would be to send the numbers in clear text, but shift them by a few. then call her and tell her which way to shift and by how much. [06:30] ahh, i have to mount it differently? [06:30] yes [06:30] thank you very much [06:31] hmm i have no /sbin/mnt.ntfs-3g [06:31] full install of slackware 13 x86_64 [06:31] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:31] b0tnet: ntfs-3g /dev/foo /mnt/foo [06:32] oh, im sorry, i didnt see the correction, /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g [06:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-63-34.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:32] okay, it is working, thnk you very much [06:32] yw [06:32] have a nice wednesday :) [06:33] b0tnet (n=void@c-24-18-166-248.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.199.120) joined ##slackware. [06:35] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:36] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:36] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-210-143.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:48] Action: Camarade_Tux pats Zordrak [06:48] Zordrak, yeah. my workmate has tried it today and has already told me it's crap :) [06:48] i guess i just started to accept it would never make it to release [06:48] tbh my bigger concern is it was *supposed* to come with Lightning 1.0 (as we're STILL on 0.9)... but i bet it hasnt [06:51] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-63-34.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:55] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [06:57] ChickenLittle (n=robert@Y051136.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [06:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:00] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) joined ##slackware. [07:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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I restarted alsa-utils but still the same [07:38] run alsamixer [07:38] check ur settings [07:38] Anyone know anything more on these kernel updates? What has been done to patch the flaw? [07:39] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [07:39] Zordrak: which ones? [07:39] mmm fagueness [07:40] vagueness** [07:40] O.O [07:40] hit up slackware-security [07:40] SSA:2009-342-01 [07:40] hiptobecubic_ (n=john@75.111.189.11) left irc: Client Quit [07:41] Zordrak: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/source/k/linux-2.6.29.6-03-ip_fragment-CVE-2009-1298.diff.gz [07:42] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:42] probably this is the patch [07:42] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [07:42] oh, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/source/k/README_SECURITY.TXT [07:42] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [07:43] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:43] these are the only files modified in Dec [07:43] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [07:44] *nod*.. its the 03 [07:44] will check the patch out [07:44] oh. thats pretty simple [07:45] bbl lunch [07:45] almost a shame its such a small change [07:48] hi all :) [07:52] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:52] hi [07:52] in .screenrc I can execute mutt and so on when I type screen and it opens a screen. how can I get it to execute cowsay hello for example? it closes those windows? how can I make them do cowsay and not close the window? [07:54] screen -t [name of window] [window number] [command] [07:55] ^in .screenrc [07:55] I am [07:55] Nick change: imarambiocatan_ -> nachox [07:55] screen -t edit 5 cowsay but the window is not there when I screen [07:55] it closes it [07:55] guys, there is noone using vmware vsphere, right? [07:55] or fails at some point [07:56] gyroscope (n=master@85.104.29.43) joined ##slackware. [07:56] what about cowsay hello? or something else [07:56] i dont remember how cowsay works tbh [07:57] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.199.120) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:58] problem is I think that it closes the window when the application is finished [07:59] hmm.. [08:02] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:09] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "fodeu!" [08:09] urban (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Nick change: urban -> Guest22507 [08:11] anyone else knows? hmm... [08:17] kr_eten (n=quick@87.120.176.200) joined ##slackware. [08:18] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [08:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [08:22] anyone know of a good free pdf editor? [08:24] Baphomusi (n=wilson@190.157.116.190) joined ##slackware. [08:26] Baphomusi (n=wilson@190.157.116.190) left ##slackware. [08:26] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [08:26] pdfedit? [08:32] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-43-167-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:32] sahk0: looks nice but uses qt3 it seems =/ [08:33] Camarade_Tux: not to put too fine a point on it but.... so? [08:34] hitest: ++ [08:36] :) [08:37] Zordrak: I don't have qt3 [08:38] Camarade_Tux: go get it [08:38] its in extra/ [08:38] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: "leaving" [08:40] i can't find it [08:40] ah, ok, under kde3 [08:41] it is in kde3-compat [08:43] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:45] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:47] kre_ten (n=quick@opencode.tea.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:51] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [08:52] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [08:57] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:58] _juan (n=juan@200.109.152.36) joined ##slackware. [08:59] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-43-167-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [08:59] synfin (n=synfin@cv-nat-A-129.cv.nrao.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:01] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:01] A glance through "Slackware Linux Essentials" leads me to believe that the only method for downloading and installing packages is by using something like lftp to browse a mirror, and then using installpkg to install the package you d/l via lftp. [09:01] is that right? [09:02] besides the isos yes [09:02] you can use whatever you want to download it, but installpkg/upgradepkg to do the install/upgrade [09:02] kr_eten (n=quick@87.120.176.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:02] and slackpkg will handle a lot of that for you [09:03] edman007: ah, that is what I was looking for. Thanks. [09:03] and sbopkg will handle package builds from slackbuilds [09:03] I knew there had to be something a bit more automated than lftp and installpkg. [09:04] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] at slackbuilds.org [09:04] does slackware has a graphing device? [09:04] like gnuplot? [09:05] like solving equations [09:05] oh...install octive from slackbuilds.org [09:05] *octave [09:05] edman007: thank you :-) [09:05] it is a matlab clone [09:06] edman007: how do you know about this octive? [09:06] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:06] fatherx (i=fatherx@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [09:07] i'm too cheap to pay for matlab, octave is basically the same thing... [09:07] Masterx831: I am new to slackware, but I have used PySci on other distros before. You may want to look into that as well. It is a "MATLAB rebuild" [09:07] uses gnuplot for graphing [09:07] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [09:07] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:08] synfin: hmNn,,, 2 programs would be nice [09:08] let me fix my xorg then [09:08] what is the command to upate slackpkg? [09:08] wget slackpkg <----- [09:09] <_juan> I have installed gnome slackbuild but for some reason both in kde and in gnome the default file manager is dolphin, how can i change gnome's default file manager to nautilus without affecting kde's? [09:09] slackpkg update [09:09] hi, im having a kernel panic after upgrade 2.6.29.6-2 --> 2.6.29.6-3; it cannot mount root. I upgraded and reinstalled lilo, any clues? [09:10] fatherx: which kernel.. huge, generic or custom? [09:10] generic [09:10] in which case you need to update your initrd [09:11] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:11] fatherx: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/29/re-installing-lilo-from-a-slackware-boot-cd/ [09:11] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:12] that will get you into a usable chroot environment.. then run mkinitrd as you normally would [09:12] ngomes (n=ngomes@213.190.200.21) joined ##slackware. [09:12] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Zordrak, ok thank you. [09:12] unless of course you left the huge kernel image in as an option in your lilo.conf (which you should) [09:13] then you just boot huge instead to sort it out [09:13] np [09:15] (Or wait -1 minutes!) thats great [09:15] nimbius (i=nimbius@iceland.freeshell.org) joined ##slackware. [09:15] huh? [09:16] wait -1 minutes to download the file [09:16] ah,-1 minutes passed :) [09:16] ... huh? [09:16] So i installed slackware last night, it had no problems whatsoever, and its both faster and more stable than my old fedora 12. I must have learned sixty new things about linux and unix last night. I lost track of time, got into work at 9 am today, and didnt sleep till 4 am last night. [09:17] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [09:17] nimbius: \o/# [09:17] nimbius: \o/ [09:17] hahaha [09:17] Welcome. :) [09:17] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:17] nimbius: very cool:) [09:17] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) left irc: "Leaving" [09:18] just one question: what is the animal that pops up on the screen during boot? it looks like half pengii half rat. [09:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-213-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] it's a tuz, it is only in kernel 2.6.29 [09:19] nimbius: its Tuz the Tazmanian Devil [09:19] tuz ftw [09:19] its Linus' attempt to do some animal welfare aid [09:19] ah! [09:20] _juan (n=juan@200.109.152.36) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:20] i think im moving to debian [09:20] fail [09:20] ngomes: bye then [09:20] lol [09:20] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-142-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] debian never supported my broadcom nic, wouldnt play my mp3s, and the boot time was atrocious. just my mileage there. [09:21] my broadcom is supported 4321 [09:21] no 4312 [09:21] netXtreme? [09:22] wait [09:22] i couldnt get past the installation asking for firmware. [09:22] 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) [09:22] ice weasel, ice ape, ice dove...pffft [09:22] lol [09:22] and its not debian fault , its lack of kernel [09:22] icetea [09:22] im going to try installing slack on my laptop. might be running mixxx from it this weekend. [09:23] ngomes plus their insistance to use a cdrecord that for all intents and purposes does not appear capable of writing DVDs [09:23] I liked the package manager though, much better than yum. [09:23] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:23] nimbius: if you source compile it.. create a slackbuild and submit it to slackbuilds.org :) [09:25] Zordrak you mean mixxx? interesting idea, but i cant think of anyone who uses it. [09:25] Action: nimbius is a dj at a club on the weekends, and just started using linux instead of mixmeister for his sets. [09:25] meh.. maybe if there was a build they would :) [09:26] good poijt. [09:26] Linux..for djing? Good luck with that o.O [09:26] use a freakin turntable [09:26] straterra yeah tell me about it, mixxx was a hot mess of instability in fedora 12. [09:26] s/a/a set [09:26] sahk0 carry my vinyl and im sure youll get a sense of why i use a laptop now ;) [09:27] yeah:) [09:27] haha [09:27] carrying speakers aint enough :P [09:27] jus' premix one MP3.. then get paid for drinking and picking up girls all night :) [09:27] LOL one of the first places i was spinning made me bring speakers... [09:27] fatherx (i=fatherx@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: [09:28] mixxx sucks [09:28] I installed slackware from 3 isos and selected "install everything" (the recommended method). I have KDE and lots of things...but...no X? startx does not exist [09:28] I just patched my computer and upgraded it to be safe, and it still does not exist. [09:29] lol [09:29] ngomes if you have a good sound backend like oss or maybe alsa, its not too bad. if you have to have something calculate all the BPM's for the songs you play though, maybe you need another career choice ;) [09:29] at least its safe [09:30] career, what a shity word that is XD [09:30] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] nimbius (i=nimbius@iceland.freeshell.org) left ##slackware ("time for meetings. hooray."). [09:30] nimbius: i might be a dj for a day , dont need to make it a carrer... and mixxx wont help [09:30] he meant Carer :) [09:30] lack of features [09:31] and im moving to debian cause im tired of the lack of packages [09:31] and the need to compile [09:31] :( [09:32] Go for it [09:32] Action: ngomes cries and waves a white papertoilet [09:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436105.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:32] i never started with debian cause i would need to read a book on how to use dpkg (incl. building packages) [09:32] slackware works out of the box even with basic knowledge of bash [09:33] yeah, I find debian far too hard to use [09:33] hard ? [09:33] yeah, too complicated [09:33] why hard [09:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:34] over-engineered [09:34] apt-get install fail [09:35] kre_ten (n=quick@opencode.tea.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [09:35] i try debion once every couple of years or so... and very quickly get mad with it, throw it on the floor and go back to warm fuzzy slackware-ville [09:35] yep [09:36] might happen to me [09:36] likely [09:36] but i need to sail away from this ville ! [09:36] sure [09:36] firedix (n=firedix@host200.201-252-150.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:37] bbiab [09:38] What would the entire X windows package be called in slack? I want to reinstall the whole thing over the Internet. [09:38] not the CDs [09:38] there isn't a single package for that [09:38] synfin: there are *many* packages [09:38] synfin: you can process the x/ package series all at once though [09:39] Zordrak: How, I tried `slackpkg install x/` [09:39] and it claims "no packages match...." [09:39] upgradepackage --reinstall x/*.txz [09:39] synfin: do you have /var/log/packages/xinit* ? [09:39] synfin: have you correctly set your slackpkg mirror? [09:39] yes [09:39] synfin: and what sahk0 said ^^ [09:40] Camarade_Tux: yes [09:40] Zordrak: I uncommented easynews [09:40] s/upgradepackage/upgradepkg [09:40] synfin: ls -la /usr/bin/startx [09:40] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:43] Zordrak: no, only startkde, startfluxbox, startxfce [09:43] ok. grep startx /var/log/packages/xinit* [09:44] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:44] and do you have anything under /usr/lib/libX* (or /usr/lib64/libX* for that matter) ? [09:44] if you get am result then something is thoroughly borked and you want sahk0's upgradepkg --reinstall instructions above [09:44] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] Zordrak: NOthing [09:44] maybe you only need to reinstall the xinit package [09:44] synfin: `vi !$` [09:45] synfin: is there *anything* in the file? [09:45] Camarade_Tux: /usr/lib/libX* has a number of files returned, libXm.* [09:45] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:46] *package [09:46] Zordrak: /var/log/packages/xinit* only has a name, compressed package size, package location, blank description and an empty file list [09:47] xinit-1.1.1-i486-1 [09:47] is what I have there [09:47] heh! check this out, http://ubuntuforms.org/showthread.php?t=1349678 [09:47] synfin: pick yourself a new mirror and upgradepkg --reinstall the whole damn thing [09:48] Zordrak: ok, new mirror, and reinstall what package? [09:48] upgradepkg --reinstall */*.txz [09:48] mwnn (n=user@59.92.193.245) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Zordrak: yikes [09:49] synfin: bottom line is.. if X is that b0rked.. what else is borked? [09:49] you cant be sure [09:49] Hi, should i just do an upgradepkg on all the *.txz files that were issued to fix the linux kernel bug? [09:49] Zordrak: good point, okay, will will do [09:49] similar to getting rootkitted.. you dont know what else is buggered so the best thing to do is clean the whole thing [09:50] synfin: i recommend domnloading a complete mirror to a local disk first [09:50] synfin: and best to use osuosl if youre not *too* far from it [09:50] osuosl, is that in the US? I'm on the East Coast [09:51] yeah.. US [09:51] oregon state university [09:51] oregon state or TDS, both are excellent mirrors [09:51] synfin: 'whois osuosl.org' [09:52] slackware.mirrors.tds.net <-- one I mainly use [09:52] afaik osuosl is effectively the semificial 2nd mirror in the same way slackbuilds.org is the semificial slackbuild repo [09:52] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:52] ..and this is the semificial slackware IRC channel :) [09:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:53] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] cold outside, i am staying inside today and i have a pot of chili simmering on Low on the stove, (biscuits? or cornbread? that is my biggest decision for the day) [09:53] ngomes (n=ngomes@213.190.200.21) left irc: "leaving" [09:53] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:53] Axius (n=ade@92.85.20.42) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Pig_Pen: i made a new cauldron of chilli last night.. its soaking up its own flavour at home right now [09:54] best chilli ive made yet :) (last one got a bit burnt) [09:54] Thanks guys, I'll do that then. I may be back later asking for help. I've used gentoo/fedora/ubuntu as my primary OS's for the past 4 years or so, now I want to try something new. [09:54] synfin (n=synfin@cv-nat-A-129.cv.nrao.edu) left ##slackware. [09:54] oh yeah, chili is always better the next day after it cooked and spent the night in the refrigerator [09:55] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.8.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] nah.. just sat on the stove :) let the bacteria accumulate [09:55] then eat what you want and freeze the rest [09:55] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [09:56] with enough onions and cayenne pepper & chili powder nothing can live in that [09:56] aye [10:02] substanc1v (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] wuttup [10:02] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] hey guys... i compiled a kernel at a remote location ... right now i vpn'd in and now transfering the contents of /usr/src/linux-kernel-cust/ (cp -R) to my computer here... im noticing during the copy i see file already exist... when i do a make modules_install on the computer im transfering the binaries too.. will it work?? i hope i explained myself correctly [10:04] lol konqueror is using 622.8mb of ram atm. running for ~3 hours [10:04] sometimes i see the file exists warning [10:04] substanc1v: use "rsync -av" not cp -R [10:05] doh! [10:05] shit is taking forever! thanks. [10:05] add "--progress" too if it tickles your fancy [10:05] substanc1v, if you run "du -sh" on it, you'll see it's about 500mb or so [10:05] the rest ought to work ok [10:06] if i run a doosh ? :) [10:06] Axius (n=ade@92.85.20.42) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] InspectorCluseau (i=0@69.18.80.12) joined ##slackware. [10:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] rsync -av /path/to/linsource /path/to/remote/share ? [10:07] add a --progress [10:07] i appreciate it [10:08] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-hqygwhmccovvfguu) left irc: [10:08] rsync -av --progress /remotedir/ /localdir [10:08] and it's rsync -va --progress /remote/dir /local/dir [10:08] .. :) [10:08] boo [10:08] thanks guys.. [10:08] shogun assassin never gets old [10:09] movie rocks [10:09] niee385 (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] or.. more fully, using ssh: rsync -ave ssh --progress user@remotehost:/usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) /usr/src/. [10:09] fatherx (i=fatherx@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [10:09] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:10] hrm no need for a share.. i setup a samba share on my laptop here... and vpn'd to work and ssh'd into my work machine and mounted the share .. [10:10] Zordrak, hi again, i tried to edit the lilo.conf with vi, vim, emacs; none of which i could find in the installation, any advise on how to edit without those? [10:11] fatherx: nano [10:11] vi should be there [10:11] it's in the a/ pkg series iirc [10:11] i likke nano :) [10:11] and is definitely in the boot disk [10:11] fatherx, you're doing it wrong [10:11] ^ [10:12] i'd like nano if it didn't have a bad habit of adding new lines where i don't want them [10:12] thrice`, yes i think [10:12] substanc1v: nano is in /ap and not always available [10:12] wollw, try nano -w or something [10:12] thrice`: good to know about [10:12] so just to be sure, i mount the partition and the other system files [10:12] substanc1v: vi is elvis by default and thats in a/ [10:12] then i just vi /etc/lilo.conf? [10:13] fatherx: after the chroot [10:13] ok [10:13] rsync -av --progress /mnt/tmp/linuxbackup/rsync/ /usr/src/linux-2.6.32 it didn't give me much... just said total size 0 speedup 0 and im back and cmdline [10:13] or, direct, vi /path/to/where/you/mounted/it/etc/lilo.conf [10:13] substanc1v, and, du -sh /mnt/tmp/linuxbackup/rsync ? [10:14] thrice`: there is nothing in there. i just created the folder [10:14] fatherx: the link i gave you covers the exact command for every step [10:14] maybe its the other way around ? [10:14] >.< [10:14] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] substanc1v: from first, to second [10:14] substanc1v, read the comments again. first argument is where it is, second is where you want it to go [10:14] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Zordrak, i just tried the exact and it says vi, vim, emacs are not found :S [10:15] ok ok.. i guess im working assbackwards again. [10:15] fatherx: what about elvis? [10:15] only change is the sda* [10:15] (vi is just a symlink to elvis) [10:15] have not tried elvis [10:15] so, rsync -va ftp.somemirror.com::slackware/slackware-current/ /home/ajb/ would take the slackware mirror's slakcware-current, and stick it to my /home/ajb/ [10:15] ok, ill try elvis [10:16] fatherx (i=fatherx@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: [10:16] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [10:16] thrice`: thanks .. i like this command... i probably did it the long way too.. as you mentioned before regardding an ssh ... that command doesn't need a share.. i ssh into my laptop from work and transfer files via rsync? [10:16] ngomes (n=ngomes@213.190.200.21) joined ##slackware. [10:17] is Iskar Enev around ? [10:17] substanc1v, you can do that, or ssh has an "scp" command [10:17] i cant get libsig++ lib [10:17] maybe a typo in it ? [10:18] scp -r use@host:/path/to/kernel_source /local/path/ [10:18] user * [10:19] well its going now... ill just leave it.. i need to start using nfs for linuxtolinux sharing.. :) [10:19] brb [10:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] this ball of snow of dependencies make me nervous [10:19] elcome to Slackware? [10:20] Welcome^ [10:20] hellcome , right [10:20] use sbopkg and use queues [10:20] problem solved [10:20] substanc1v: dont use NFS unless you really need to. rsync, scp and sshfs should provide for all your needs [10:20] is libsig++ or libsigc++ ? [10:21] Zordrak: uhm..whats wrong with using NFS? [10:21] Zordrak: i started already.. should i stop umount the share... will the transfer be faster.. [10:21] ? [10:21] woa tbird 3 is out [10:21] substanc1v: no.. just leave it.. if its working its working [10:21] thanks.. [10:22] sahk0: yeah.. and no lightning compat for some time to come it seems [10:22] Action: substanc1v man's rsync and scp [10:22] sahk0: has been dropped from integration and a compatible update to the addon seems nowhere near ready [10:22] hmm.. I've got a BDRE disc in my bd drive. I've formatted it with `mkudffs --media-type=dvd -r 0x201 --vid="foo" /dev/sr0`, but everytime I issue `mount -t udf -o rw,noatime,nodiratime /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom` it tells me "UDF-fs: Partition marked readonly; forcing readonly mount". if it's a BDRE, why would it be marked RO ? [10:23] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.251) joined ##slackware. [10:25] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [10:25] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. 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[10:27] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] sahk0: did you just call "Mozilla" an unofficial addon? :) [10:28] thats one of the reasons i like kde btw. usefull stuff like that gets added in the main application (at least from what i can tell) [10:28] oh, does mozilla develop it? i dont use it [10:28] nor tbird [10:28] Action: wollw just discovered Sunbird yesterday [10:29] I looked at Lightening too but I don't think I like putting my calendar and email together in one program [10:29] well then it will certainly be available soonish [10:30] wollw: ironically enough, that's what most folks do [10:30] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:30] crazy i tell you! [10:30] wollw: if you have your calendar on a server such as kronolith.. its extremely useful to integrate it into thunderbird [10:30] esp if you get meeting requests and ESP for the "Today" pane [10:30] ah, yeah that makes sense [10:30] wollw: not when you start doing more meetings [10:31] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:32] integrated services for mail and calendaring make this whole spaghetti mess much easier to use for end users. working with meeting invites makes it less painful [10:32] after a running make in the linux-source dir. ... are the binaries only needed to install.. if so what dir in the linux-source are the binaries located... perhaps i can cut my transfer time. [10:33] substanc1v: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [10:33] you need the modules tree and the kernel image [10:34] yet another useful link.. :) i should make a local wiki :) [10:35] if you have custem tagged the kernel uname, you're as well to do the make modules_install on the compiler machine and just rsync the /lib/modules/foo dir [10:35] the kernel image itself is just one blob [10:36] what im doing at the moment is fine too right. [10:37] yeah.. [10:37] plus you get to keep your configured source on the machine its being used on [10:37] in case you need to compile a new kernel module or something [10:37] thanks.. my laptop can't compile source.. some sort of hardware issue as yall know already [10:38] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: "C-x C-c" [10:39] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [10:40] i mean kernel.. can't compile kernel.. i can compile anything else [10:40] weird [10:40] maybe u screwing kernel options [10:40] and it fails to compile [10:41] not even going to go throught the motions of explainin what i have tried.. [10:41] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:41] :) [10:41] what cpu is it ? [10:42] amd turion 64 2x [10:42] crappy lappy from hp [10:42] actually i like my lappy :) [10:42] maybe u need a compileless distro :) [10:43] ngomes: slackware does not require that you compile your own kernel [10:43] ngomes: slackware rocks... im tired of noobuntu [10:44] ubunpoo [10:44] ive just had a hell of a time compiling kernel and have been bugging #slackware about it [10:44] :) [10:44] Zordrak: right ... but some hardware need [10:44] ngomes: it does not require that you compile *anything*. Even a huge amount of 3rd party stuff is provided as packages by alienbob and rworkman and other trustet people [10:44] ask, im good with kernels [10:44] wow! this batch of chili i cooked is a spicy ambrosia, every bite is like a taste of valhalla [10:45] yumm [10:45] Zordrak: dont tell HUGE cause i laugh [10:45] i like spice [10:45] Action: mattallmill agrees with substanc1v about slackware rocking :) [10:45] everytime i leave slackware i end up going back [10:45] mohaa: chili sounds good. [10:45] i went from windows to slackware at work.. people look at my screen and ask.. wtf is that? [10:45] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [10:46] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521421.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:46] substanc1v: People just don't know what's good even when it's staring them in the face [10:47] mrpwnage whut ? [10:47] Action: mattallmill is running slackware on his laptop; it totally rules [10:48] hi again, I have a quick question, i just managed to fix the lilo.conf after kernel panic, but i wasnt able to run vi after chroot, i had to exit and run vi after that chroot again and run lilo. any ideas on why i had to do that? [10:48] oh , thanks rworkman for aproving a package that fails to compile [10:48] fluxbox is also oh-so-sexy [10:48] ngomes, paste errors [10:48] thrice`: where ? [10:48] very likely, you are at fault, so quit bitching [10:48] to a pastebin [10:48] substanc1v: you're lucky...our sysadmin has wood for windows. I use windows at work...blech [10:48] lol ok [10:49] seriously, you expect help with "I have a package that doesn't compile?" [10:49] fatherx: difficult to say.. [10:49] thrice`: http://pastebin.com/m71a23297 [10:49] fatherx: it depends on the state of the environment you are chrooting into [10:50] mohaa: nothing that was an accident with the tab key [10:50] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.102) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Zordrak: was that for me ? [10:50] ngomes, can you paste a bit more of the configure? also, what are you compiling? [10:50] Zordrak, what do you mean by environment im chrooting to? shells? [10:50] im compiling museek+ [10:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz1RR52xHq4 @ mrpwnage [10:51] installed all 4 deps [10:51] and wont compile using the slackbuid [10:51] fatherx: chroot effectively puts you into the system as if you had booted it [10:51] fatherx: if vi isnt working after chroot, then i dont see it would work if you boot into it [10:52] fatherx: but it could be for any reason such as path issues, or it just not being installed [10:52] hi all. i have a very odd problem to solve. i've updated my kernel (2.6.32) and ati radeon catalyst drivers do not compile any more. anyone has the same problem? [10:52] ngomes, what does "ls /var/log/packages/{libsig*,libxml*,libevent*} | wc -l" return? [10:52] OclkdMan: ati drv is a bitch [10:52] OclkdMan: probably just ATI havent caght up yet [10:52] Zordrak, wow, then I dont know whats going on because i just tried vi and it works :S [10:52] OclkdMan: it can take time [10:52] it might be a path issue [10:52] fatherx: you,ve done sometnhing wrong somewhere :) [10:52] i run slackware64-current and drivers 9.11 on 2.6.31 worked very well [10:52] OclkdMan this is not surprising, closed modules are developed against certain kernel trees, there's usually a catch-up effect on that [10:52] thrice`: ops forgot libevent [10:53] lol :) [10:53] hehehe, likely [10:53] hitest: our company bought licenses for windows so we use it.. since i work IT i formatted my machines to personal versions of windows and linux [10:53] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-143.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:53] ngomes, cool, best not to insult people like rworkman who work on thsi stuff for you next time [10:53] ngomes: try not to insult slackware unfairly too [10:53] right , my apologies to rworkman [10:53] in sum, get out. [10:54] HEI [10:54] I wouldnt go that far.... yet [10:54] no, you can stay, just less bitching, more reading [10:54] ok. i would like to know if someone have this issued because i'm thinking it could be 'problem' of my configuration [10:54] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-099.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] OclkdMan: if it compiles in .31 but not .32 it really is likely to just be ATI not having caught up yet [10:55] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.166.147.40) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Zordrar: .......ok....maybe that's the hard truth [10:56] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. 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[11:03] none :) [11:03] nvision (n=nvision@e179137138.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] nvision_ (n=nvision@e179137138.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:03] nvision (n=nvision@e179137138.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:03] for example for /var or /home or /boot there are reasons [11:04] sahk0: its usually because peoplo are used to dealing with crap like solaris [11:04] I've never seen the advantage, personally [11:05] how does solaris deal with /usr ? [11:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:15] woo for the netsplit [11:15] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.166.147.40) joined ##slackware. [11:15] Action: slava_dp goes home. say bye slava_dp :) [11:15] christ on a bike!!! [11:15] Zordrak: lol [11:16] where? [11:16] metrofox, missed it by a split-second [11:16] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-099.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:16] hi, i have problem with my time. i had selected time set to local during installation. still it shows utc time. [11:17] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:17] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-211.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] svinoba, try "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" [11:18] but localtime-copied-from shows my time zone. [11:18] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:18] thrice`: what does it do? [11:18] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:18] syncs the clock :) [11:19] to network time? [11:19] Kamel- (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] stardate [11:20] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:20] did ntpdate. :) will it stay across reboot? date command didnot stay.. [11:20] you can sync your hardware clock with hwclock [11:20] hwclock --systohc or so? [11:20] slackbox: yeah [11:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:21] and will hwclock fix freenode too? =) [11:21] lol, slava_dp has gone nd my tab failed [11:21] but its already se to local coz of windowz [11:22] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:22] otherwise i dislike setting hwclock to local what to do? [11:22] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:23] mwnn (n=user@59.92.193.245) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [11:23] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-142-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:23] will reboot n check :-p [11:23] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.166.147.40) left ##slackware. [11:25] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.237) left irc: Connection timed out [11:25] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@60-48-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436105.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:26] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.1) joined ##slackware. [11:26] spectre (n=kyle@41.210.144.16) joined ##slackware. [11:26] anyone? [11:26] cyborg-o1e (i=1000@nas-12-072.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] pick me pick me [11:30] synfin (n=gordon@d-128-38-110.bootp.Virginia.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:30] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@60-48-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. 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[11:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [12:01] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:01] damn. i get only lo in slackware... [12:01] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.247) joined ##slackware. [12:02] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.135.52) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] Azeotrope: lspci | grep net [12:03] what NIC is that? [12:04] please type over the full line [12:04] macavity: it's on a Vbox [12:04] oh, then you need to rtfm on vbox [12:05] no. it works with other linuxes but not with slackware [12:05] as that is 100% not the fault of slackware [12:06] PC-net fast III [12:07] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:07] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-124.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-133-104.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:07] i just looked this up on SBo [12:07] did you install virtual-box-kernel-addons? [12:08] *virtualbox-kernel-addons [12:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:08] other distroes might ship with vbox kernel addons (which is pure bloat if you ask me) [12:09] macavity: yes, i did. they work fine. [12:09] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:09] then something is fishy here [12:09] because people in here run slackware in vbox all the time [12:09] all packagers are required to build in a clean environment [12:10] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:11] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:11] still rsyncing :\ [12:11] i had same problem with backtrack [12:11] i can see that linxquestions.org has something on the matter [12:11] substanc1v, run "du -sh" on the destination - how big is it? [12:11] hmmm [12:11] I checked last week and I all vbox cards are supported in slackware [12:12] s/ I all/ all/ [12:12] Azeotrope, you're saying, if you don't change ANY setting, but boot another v-box installation on the same host, the shows up? [12:13] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) left irc: "leaving" [12:14] cyborg-o2e (i=1000@nas-12-148.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:15] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [12:16] 381M [12:16] slow link i assume [12:16] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:16] youc an check the final, but I think it's probably 500M or so after your compile [12:17] (you really should have compressed it first) :) [12:17] lol i know.. [12:18] i tried initially to tarball it.. then cp over vpn but it didn't have eveything inside was merely 191m [12:18] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [12:18] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got netsplit. 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[12:20] we'll have to move to web 3.0 [12:20] asap [12:20] Right after ipv6 [12:20] Action: xsamurai waits for orielly to draw GDG (Giant Dumbass Graph) for version 3.0 [12:21] s/orielly/oreilly/ [12:21] lol [12:21] gotta love oreilly [12:21] thrice`: yes. slax has internat for example [12:22] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:22] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Necos: he gave the douches at work a new word to use [12:22] what word is that? [12:22] the local LUG meets at the oreilly building [12:22] i should go sometime [12:23] web 3.0? :P [12:23] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) got lost in the net-split. [12:24] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) got lost in the net-split. [12:24] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) got lost in the net-split. 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[12:28] wollw: i mean, we still wear checkered socks.. and if my historybook is right, those went out of fashione in the late 70s [12:28] macavity: do geeks really think there even is a web 2.0? [12:29] There IS a web 2.0 [12:29] Necos: ...fortunately the world economies will crash before that happens and we'll be using computers for asshats [12:29] wollw: no, but if we tell marketing that there wasnt, then we wont get nice bonuses [12:29] straterra: where? [12:29] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [12:29] macavity: In the heads of the same fucktards that use the term 'cloud' [12:29] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [12:29] hahahaha [12:29] hehe [12:30] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] but its a clooooud [12:30] straterra: roger that :P [12:30] cloudly like said head's brain [12:30] s/cloudly/cloudy/ [12:31] web 2.0 is just a collection of buzzwords to make business cream their pants :P [12:31] recovery.org cost 18 million to setup [12:31] thats alot of cream [12:31] you mena cloud computing isn't real? [12:31] and judging from the outward appearance it looks like drupal [12:32] xsamurai: so the expences for building the site whould be the #1 listing? :P [12:32] synfin1 (n=gordon@d-128-38-110.bootp.Virginia.EDU) joined ##slackware. [12:32] synfin (n=gordon@d-128-38-110.bootp.Virginia.EDU) left irc: "Leaving." [12:32] thrice`: it is when we can use the voltage between the sky and the ground to determine bit state [12:32] synfin1 (n=gordon@d-128-38-110.bootp.Virginia.EDU) left ##slackware. [12:32] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.198) joined ##slackware. [12:32] macavity: its a sad sad world, pretty much rats on a burning ship [12:33] What a downer. [12:33] n2n doesn't have source packages. [12:33] Only tags in their svn repo. [12:34] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-124.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:35] Nick change: b0n40 -> spiegel [12:36] Linus (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:36] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.98.87) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:37] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Client exiting"). [12:37] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [12:37] what's wrong with that? [12:38] you are [12:38] I'm not sure that sbo will accept a slackbuild with source in an svn repo. [12:39] ccfreak2k: if it is a tagged release [12:39] ccfreak2k: but yes, requiring that people actually have svn installed is somewhat lame [12:39] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:39] It's tagged. [12:41] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] init 0 && echo bye [12:41] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:42] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21A51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:42] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-78-32.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Connection timed out [12:42] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:42] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [12:43] ccfreak2k, which project, out of curiosity? [12:43] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left ##slackware ("Fui embora"). [12:43] n2n [12:43] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [12:43] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] http://www.ntop.org/n2n [12:43] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] oh, sorry, you already said that [12:44] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] nvision (n=nvision@e179137138.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [12:46] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-68-251.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] eviljames: ping? [12:46] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:46] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.207.158) joined ##slackware. [12:47] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-019.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:49] ccfreak2k: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntop/files/ [12:49] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [12:50] laj, I gotta wait for 2.0.0 to appear there, if it will at all. [12:50] ccfreak2k: ask in #slackbuilds, sometimes they're willing to host the source tarballs on slackbuilds.org in cases like that [12:50] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:51] I'll ask in a few days. Maybe then a source tarball will have appeared. [12:51] a giant iceburg 12 miles long and five miles wide might be bumping in to australia's contenental shelf that could cause a magnitude 4 earthquake [12:52] ccfreak2k: they did that for me, for a site where the guy only kept one release at a time, named projectname.tar.gz (so you couldn't tell which version you were downloading, ugh) [12:52] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) joined ##slackware. [12:52] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) joined ##slackware. [12:52] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:52] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:52] chiseler|saddled [12:52] er, fire|bird [12:53] hey pediatric|filibuster [12:53] err Urchlay [12:54] you play with that drumkit2pkg script any? [12:54] Now I gotta figure out how to make TortoiseSVN retrieve a tag. [12:54] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:56] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.73.221) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Urchlay: yeah, I've been messing with it a bit, seems to be working great so far. [12:57] cool. I haven't had a chance to touch it in days, was hoping somebody would either find bugs or report that it doesn't suck :) [12:58] lol, yeah, I haven't had any issues with it so far. [12:58] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-237.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:59] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.55.102) left irc: "Leaving" [12:59] 551M of 900M... [12:59] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [12:59] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.0.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:59] question if rsync is interrupted will it continue from where it left off if i run it again? [12:59] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Depends [12:59] fire|bird: how come there's no ##slackware-studio IRC channel? (or whatever you'd end up calling it) [13:00] I would cancel it at 900M and archive stuff and start over [13:00] spectre (n=kyle@41.210.144.16) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:00] Unless you use the --partial command, it wont resume the individual file [13:01] spectre (n=kyle@41.210.144.16) joined ##slackware. [13:01] i don't mind much the file ... but the whole process... if im at 551MB of 900MB if i stop and restart would it go back to 0mb of 900mb? [13:01] If its one file, yes [13:01] If its multiple files, it'll pick up where it left off [13:01] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Connection timed out [13:02] Action: john_dee wishes there was some message in icq that it, being sent to someone, would unregister his uin :E [13:02] ahh ok.. good.. so ill let it run intil i have to leave to the office.. then ill restart when i get there. vpn connection isn't as fast as i thought it would be... [13:03] straterra: fyi im rsyncing /usr/src/linux-custkern [13:03] so ya tons of files [13:03] kimjeng (n=mike@196.201.218.214) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Urchlay: We e-mailed Pat when we started the project, he prefered we didn't use slackware in the name, as it would make it seem as though we were an official slackware project, which we aren't. The channel is #studios, as in Studio S, which Pat suggested. [13:03] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:05] ah, so there is an IRC channel... [13:05] yup [13:08] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:08] kimjeng (n=mike@196.201.218.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:10] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Nick change: umopepisdn` -> pragma_ [13:12] Trying to get google-chrome running on slackware -current but keep running into errors with the gnome libs. I've posted in the gnome channel but got no responses, so maybe someone here can tell me what this means when I try and compile orbit-2-2.14.17: /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_array_ref' [13:12] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [13:15] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:15] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [13:15] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.73.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:18] Means the version of libgobject it's trying to link against doesn't have the function g_array_ref. [13:19] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird [13:22] :) [13:23] random stabbing makes for a fun day [13:25] spiegel (n=spike@ip-166-187.interbild.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.73.221) left irc: "leaving" [13:26] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.198) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] Mornin [13:31] Necos: I was going out to a bar the other day, with a friend and my gf. She was doing her hair, despite repeated attempts by me to get her out the door. [13:32] Necos: So, she says "You never know what good me taking my sweet-ass time might do." On our way from the apartment to the train station we walked past a crime scene. I asked a cop what happened he said "Some dude got stabbed." [13:32] Necos: Reading the paper the next day, what actually happened was that someone started stabbing people at the train station I was going to, and was walking down the street from there to my apt, stabbing strangers. [13:33] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:33] This is why shotguns are made. [13:34] lol ej [13:35] that's fuckin random [13:35] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [13:35] good thing i use digital knives :) [13:35] seriously, that's be an awesome slomo youtube video, shotgun vs. random stabbing person. [13:35] it'd be a pretty short video :) [13:35] blow him in half from the waist down [13:35] Necos: pretty crazy, eh? [13:35] That's nuts [13:36] yeah man, just imagine tho... he must have been pretty wacked to do some shit like that [13:37] Or just angry. [13:37] Necos: I live in a strange part of town. Not *quite* skid row/ghetto/junkie alley, but not exactly a wealthy neighborhood. Tons of homeless, tons of junkies wandering the streets.. they usually keep to themselves though. [13:37] my father had a car once that had elecric locks, this is rare for him. we hate them because when you try to get out the door on some older vehicles the door is locked. So one day he was driving and stopped at an intersection, some guy ran directly at his car and tried to open the door and it was locked. Right then a bunch of cop cars came out and stopped him [13:38] check [13:38] hey i got this include/config/3c359.h 0 100% 0.00kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#42205, to-check=1803/45651) [13:38] ej, where the hel is that? [13:38] over and over ... [13:38] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Has to be America. [13:38] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Necos: In Vancouver, near the worst part of the city :D [13:38] and fatalnix, that's pretty damn funny... [13:39] lol ej [13:39] everything is coming back 0 bytes [13:39] brb [13:40] Vancouver, like most large cities, has a neighborhood near downtown where heroin-addicted junkies run rampant, and shoot up in broad daylight at bus stops and stuff. [13:40] I live a very short walk from this neighborhood. [13:40] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] eviljames: that was happening in the uk a little while back [13:41] but something about being stabbed while the guy is speaking in a British accent is a bit more soothing [13:41] I'm a long-time KDE user but I've had bad experiences with 4.x in the past, is my fear of installing 13.0 justified or is 4.2.4 actually good? [13:41] xsamurai: pardon me sir *knifey-knifey* there you are gov'na. freshen yo drink? [13:41] haha yeah something like that [13:41] Mefached: I'm a long-time kde user as well, and I think 4.2.4 is very very good for day to day use [13:41] Mefached: If you go to -current, 4.3 is even better. [13:42] eviljames: thats why i believe everybody should be armed [13:42] checked it out, I'm no DE user though. [13:42] xsamurai: Nah, everybody armed just leads the other way, more stabbings/shootings. [13:42] It's not that bad, it just has annoyances that remind me of windows sometimes. [13:42] kde in general, that is. [13:43] That's because windows keeps stealing all their annoying parts from kde [13:43] lol [13:43] They say "KDE found a new way to annoy a user, do you think there is any way we could steal that and make it worse?" [13:43] Remember: Embrace, extend, extinguish. [13:43] lol. [13:44] well the one thing I really hated is that in kde it seems that the applications get priority over X, so when things hung they "hung" [13:44] i think these files just have 0 bytes [13:44] Mefached: move to fluxbox and enjoy life [13:44] and I dont get enough cputime to ctrl alt backspace [13:44] xsamurai: I've been using fluxbox/openbox on an older system for quite a while [13:45] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:45] I don't really care much for it. KDE actually does what I want without having to do too much work. I'm lazy. [13:45] i left kde along with redhat [13:45] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] eviljames: The only thing I'm worried about is my system. 2.4 Ghz P4 with 1 gig of RAM; will that run in any way cleanly on KDE 4.2.4? [13:46] 1 gig of ram isnt enough [13:46] xsamurai: Sue me for using an old machine [13:46] Shearer (n=shearer@151.62.19.185) joined ##slackware. [13:46] hello [13:46] It's been quite nice to me [13:46] Mefached: use fluxbox [13:46] swift [13:46] i use it on my fastest machines [13:46] that will run perfectly [13:47] Mefached: I used a very similar machine with kde4, and it wasn't very bad imho [13:47] if i do ldconfig i have more messages like this: ldconfig: /usr/lib/libnspr4.so is not a symbolic link .. what i have to do? [13:47] the visuals of kde ... don't they rely on GPU [13:47] ? [13:47] I don't need your opinions on whether or not to use a DE, I've been through the Fluxbox/Openbox/IceWM/etc stuff, so quit telling me to switch. [13:47] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:47] the compiz part does [13:47] substanc1v: they can, afaik. [13:47] if you sue that [13:47] If I wanted to know whether or not I should use Fluxbox, I will ask. [13:47] /su/us/ [13:47] Mefached: Disabling the desktop effects may not even be necessary, is it an intel gfx chip? [13:48] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [13:48] I am a fluxbox user. But I use it because it doesn't ever get in my way. [13:48] Mefached: why you all touchy [13:48] eviljames: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] [13:48] mefached: with ur sis specs kde will run like windows will [13:48] sys [13:48] substanc1v: Because I'm sick of people telling me to switch what I do. I do what I want, it's the entire reason I use Linux. [13:48] substanc1v: Probably because your answers are sub-par. [13:49] Mefached: In any case, ignoring the noise, do you know if that device is still supported by fglrx? [13:49] its not an answer.. its a suggestion.. [13:49] eviljames: Not a clue. All I've done is switched to using the ati drivers in x.org (was having resolution issues beforehand). [13:49] Mefached some people have good reasons why but they just don't say to, to be honest, you should use what you want to use, and someone may reccommend with reason something else, but that's okay. [13:49] fglrx dropped that GPU probably 5-6 years ago. [13:49] adamk: k, thx. [13:50] they dropped my gpu a year or so ago. [13:50] Mefached: So, you should be able to run on Slackware 13 w/o an xorg.conf file, with kde4 and *maybe* desktop effects and have it look pretty good. [13:50] But the open source drivers support 3D acceleration. [13:50] Mefached: adamk has more insight about the radeon drivers (I have all intel chips) [13:50] radeon and radeonhd both work. [13:50] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.124) joined ##slackware. [13:50] If I have to turn off desktop effects, that's fine. I don't even mind if it's a little sluggish at times. I use KDE because I'm willing to sacrifice a little performance for a little bit of laziness. [13:50] (and because I hate GNOME). [13:51] haha [13:51] Mefached: ++ on hating gnome. and KDE improves my leaps and bounds every time they release it seems. [13:51] good. because it voids your slackware warranty [13:51] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:51] i switched to linux because i dislike the ease of windows.. and love the control of linux. [13:52] :) [13:52] "ease" of windows? WTF version are you using? [13:52] I switched because of my thirst for power, stability and control [13:52] all of em.. point click.. booboobeeboo [13:52] You find that to be easier than the command prompt? [13:52] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [13:52] i switched because someone said i would get laid [13:53] When I ask my computer to do something I expect to get it done and just do it, even if its not very safe, and Linux has always done that [13:53] xsamurai ! [13:53] xsamurai: ... theres a picture for you somewherer [13:53] Action: substanc1v starts to chant, "LINUX LINUX LINUX" [13:53] fatalnix: is it of you ? [13:54] xsamurai: http://www.iamboredr.com/files/88d43c91a3bf.jpg [13:54] no its not me [13:54] then not interested [13:54] eviljames: command line isn't easy to those coming from a simple windows interface.. soo ya [13:54] in my opinion [13:54] fatalnix: haha good one [13:55] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [13:56] So if I install 13.0 and upgrade to 4.3, it should work fine? [13:56] fatalnix: sad part is that is the stereotypical image of a linux or tech user, it was hard finding a job when i was young [13:56] what's NSPR? [13:56] Mefached, no. -current implies you are running all -current [13:57] Mefached: what thrice` said. You will want to update much of your system to -current to get kde4.3 [14:00] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [14:03] bah, trying to install rosegarden using the sbo slackbuild and it doesn't think i have the kde3 compat libs installed :| [14:03] Nick change: uva_ -> uva [14:06] viu (n=n@116-230-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] wollw: Are they in your ld.so.conf, and/or are they found first by that script for the purposes of building kde3 packages? [14:07] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] Garak (i=garak@142.68.84.183) joined ##slackware. [14:07] hi [14:08] have problem with booting slackware-13.0-install-d1.iso from CD. There is message 'no enough memory' for hugesmp and huge both. [14:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik|afk [14:09] I have 320 Mb memory [14:09] eviljames: probably not, haven't bothered to look into it [14:10] TangentCollision (n=tangentc@c-71-204-84-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] seems so though [14:11] I need to make the screen resolution 800x480 and not 640x480...can't find xorg.conf [14:11] TangentCollision: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [14:11] the standard place... [14:12] cherife (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) joined ##slackware. [14:13] InspectorCluseau (i=0@69.18.80.12) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:13] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:14] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [14:14] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:15] Shearer (n=shearer@151.62.19.185) left irc: "Leaving" [14:16] xorg.conf doesn't exist by default in Slackware 13.0 [14:16] how can i make sure it is looking in the right place for the libs given that they show up in ld.so.conf? [14:16] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436105.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:17] try it? [14:18] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:19] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left irc: "Fui embora" [14:20] okay, got it [14:20] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [14:20] I edited the xorg.conf, now how do I set the mode? :o [14:20] kdesktop config doesn't read it [14:21] timoteoramos2 (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [14:21] TangentCollision: Pastebin the output of 'xrandr' [14:21] timoteoramos2 (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:21] i'd restart X rather that do a real-time xrandr change [14:21] how do i check what process is trying to access any block device on the system? [14:21] why? [14:21] john_dee: lsof? [14:21] because he doesn't appear to have much X-fu [14:22] mancha: In that case, xrandr is probably a better option [14:22] http://pastebin.ca/1708624 [14:22] eviljames not interested in arguing, you're right. happy? [14:22] heh [14:22] Just was wondering the rationale for restarting X, that's all. [14:22] Plus, I am naturally argumentative :P [14:23] oh then you;ll not find a friend here, i dislike stupid arguments [14:23] TangentCollision: Alright, so your driver isn't detecting any resolutions from your monitor. [14:23] TangentCollision: Which is very odd. Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log? [14:23] eviljames: that was harsh %) [14:23] sure, one sec [14:24] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [14:24] john_dee: watching the output of lsof, you mean? [14:24] to be more precise. how to find what process is trying to access a specific block device then? [14:24] lsof | grep ? :P [14:24] eviljames: ye :)) that was intense [14:24] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] john_dee: any file open on your system should be listed by lsof, including a block device. [14:25] uh. what do i grep? a device name like /dev/whatever? [14:25] even less perhaps, just the "whatever" [14:25] man, flash playback on linux horrible. I can't get firefox to play period and konq is playing with so much on small size and lot of lag on fullscreen. [14:25] eviljames: k [14:25] http://pastebin.ca/1708631 [14:25] if your device is mounted at /mnt/blah then lsof /mnt/bah [14:25] does anyone know if there's a better flash plugin or if there's a possible fix or a better browser than FF? [14:26] mancha: ++ much better. [14:26] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left irc: "Fui embora" [14:26] mancha: No argument from me there. [14:26] Guest4323: uzbl-browser [14:26] midori is also pretty good [14:26] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Guest4323 flash has had a troubled childhood on linux, i hear the latest plugin is a lotbetter [14:26] TangentCollision: would it play flash movies online at nbc any better than FF3 or Konq? [14:26] Guest4323: I would honestly go for midori though [14:26] TangentCollision: Alright, so you're using Slackware 12.0, with quite an old version of Xorg. [14:26] TangentCollision: And you're using the vesa driver. [14:26] I suppose so [14:27] mancha: ok, I have adobe flash installed. maybe I should use another another plugin.... [14:27] it's backtrack 3 that I have ported over into being a full distrobution instead of simply a live one [14:27] I can assure you that the vesa driver won't work at 800x480, which is what you asked about. [14:27] Guest there are a few open source alternatives to adobe but they generally lag in terms of compat with the latest flash versions [14:27] I'm sure I could update xserver-xorg [14:27] TangentCollision: You could try the "intel" driver, but I have no idea if that works on your GPU. [14:28] eviljames: just the "whatever" returns nothing. dang, rtfm again. and it'll be like that xkcd. "i was in the middle of the manual when she left" :\ [14:28] (Well, it does now, but I don't know if it did 2.5 years ago). [14:29] john_dee: No, mancha had a bettter suggestion [14:29] I just wish the X was a better elegant solution. [14:29] but I guess we're stuck with X on linux. [14:29] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] john_dee: plus the man page for lsof is very exhaustive (exhausting?:P) [14:29] john_dee: If your device is mounted at /mnt/blah, lsof /mnt/blah [14:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] Guest4323: Could you propose something more elegant than X? [14:30] oh crap, oh crap [14:30] what's the package manager for slackware? [14:30] eviljames: Y is the obvious answer [14:30] TangentCollision: slackpkg and it's accompanying tools. [14:30] I have to get going. [14:30] bbl. [14:30] Tangent: there is no "package manager". there are tools - what he said [14:30] peace [14:30] substanc1v (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:31] I'm used to pacman and apt-get [14:31] and yaourt [14:31] Kamel- (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:31] I see. well you won't find apt-get. most slackers just use slackbuilds or compile from source. [14:32] slackpkg does all official stuff [14:32] eviljames: nah, that's piece of cake. just a couple of hours to read...some of it %) [14:32] slackbuilds are compiling from source too but you know what I mean. [14:32] mancha: thanks for the tip. [14:32] ok [14:33] arrgghh, there's no slackpkg installed. that's spectacular [14:33] TangentCollision: fail [14:33] no kidding [14:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:33] that's hellish [14:33] time to go look for a tarball [14:33] is there a sbopkg sript for making seamonkey? [14:33] no, slackware ships seamonkey by default [14:34] k [14:34] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] TangentCollision, it's installed by default. if not, you a) are retarded and ommited it, or b) are on an old system [14:34] last I knew slackwaree came with the mozilla suite, when did that change? [14:34] I thought [14:34] it's a shame too since it seems no one older then 12.2 gets seamonkey 2, and as we know seamonkey 1.18 has holes bigger than $whatever [14:35] thrice`: or c) I didn't have control over the packages [14:35] no, you are at fault somehow [14:35] like I said, it's backtrack 3 that I have ported over to being a stable system instead of a live one [14:36] I'm not denying it's my fault [14:36] that's not slackware then :P [14:36] that's slax [14:36] ok, then GTFO, we don't care about backtrack. come back when you're on slackware [14:36] I just didn't have any true control over the packages [14:36] ##slax is empty [14:36] tough [14:36] spectacular [14:36] try going into debian and asking for ubuntu help [14:36] where would I go [14:37] well, I have no idea where to look for help for a rather unique project [14:37] TangentCollision (n=tangentc@c-71-204-84-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [14:37] *shrug* their mailing list [14:38] why should that be our responsibility, though? [14:38] why bother with a unique project [14:38] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:38] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] thrice`: because they think we are gods [14:38] and must help the lil ones [14:39] The questions about $random_distro I think are typically intended as compliments. ie: "This is the channel of guru, all questions can be asked here" [14:39] Tangent: go to slax.org [14:39] there are modules you can download [14:39] fatalnix: too late [14:39] that's your package manager [14:39] ah [14:40] lol [14:42] if you go in to ##linux and ask about distro-specific help, you usually get called a noob and laughed at [14:44] viu (n=n@116-230-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "Out" [14:44] that channel sucks [14:44] hahaha [14:44] wtf [14:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:45] that was the last time i was there tho... and that had to be 2yrs ago... 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[14:52] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "sux" [14:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:57] nvision (n=nvision@e179137138.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:57] viu (n=n@206-252-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Welcome to Slackware 13. boot: huge.s, Loading /kernels/huge.s/bzImage..., No enough memory to load specified kernel. I have 320Mb memory. [14:58] get more? [14:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:58] 320 not enough for install? [14:58] With 320 MB of RAM your problem will be elsewhere... unless you wanted to type 32 MB... which is too little [14:58] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] Slackware needs less than 128 MB to run the installer. [14:59] with 320Mb OpenBSD can be installed. [14:59] What is the exact command line you used to start the installer? Just pressed ENTER or did you type anything first? [14:59] slava_dp (n=slava@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Or... did you try starting a 64bit kernel on a computer that only supports 32bit binaries?/////////// [15:00] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.19.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] alienBOB: with just ENTER, with huge.s, with hugesmp.s - installaer complain me about not enough memory [15:01] slackware-13.0-install-d1.iso [15:01] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:2d) joined ##slackware. [15:02] IS this a computer with a graphics card that uses shared RAM perhaps? 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[15:27] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) got lost in the net-split. [15:27] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) got lost in the net-split. [15:27] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) got lost in the net-split. [15:27] deco: could you try it again, http://www.beatzz.co.nr/ [15:27] i took off the google clone thingie, it should be extremly basic [15:27] but for some reason on my laptop it still shows the google clone [15:27] and yes i restarted rc.httpd [15:29] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-064.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] wtf, is this a firefox problem [15:29] how come i can go to it on lynx / links and it shows the correct page [15:30] but on firefox, its showing me my old page [15:30] ctrl-f5 [15:30] in firefox? [15:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:32] beatzz: clear your FF cache. [15:32] yep [15:32] ok nothing changed. [15:32] ctrl-f5 should make FF redownload the page [15:32] Ctrl-F5 still showing me my old index.html [15:33] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] which dosent even exist [15:33] SIGBUS_ (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:33] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) joined ##slackware. [15:33] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] viu (n=n@155-235-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] alienBOB: are you there? [15:35] ok i just double checked the index.html [15:36] and restarted the rc.httpd [15:36] and again, Ctrl-F5 and still the same [15:36] on any other browser it shows the correct html. [15:36] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] beatzz you always seem to have some problem or other :) [15:37] mancha: im not kidding though, its FF [15:37] every time i open this window it's you with something not working... [15:37] i just opened it in konqueror [15:37] and it is correct, but in FF wronge. [15:37] Ctrl-F5 dose nothing [15:37] so how is this my bad? [15:38] mancha: and yes, im a very active learner ;P [15:38] maybe it isn't...just making a humorous observation, seems you are a magnet for problems :) [15:38] ChickenLittle (n=robert@Y051136.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:38] jomo (n=mich@p3EE21A51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [15:38] no pain no gain right? [15:38] lol mancha [15:39] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] you can go in to edit->prefs->advanced->network and clear the cache manually [15:40] well whatever, FF gets an F- in my book. [15:40] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection timed out [15:41] niee742 (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [15:41] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [15:41] :) [15:41] lol [15:41] he's back [15:41] Necos: that worked ^_^ [15:41] ok, that done and said [15:41] http://www.beatzz.co.nr/ [15:41] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-177-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:42] all for now, gana go get into that wild turkey [15:42] wb fire|bird [15:42] coluld anyone tell to alienBOB that 'Memory hole' set to disable will solve the problem? [15:42] viu, huh? [15:42] Necos: thanks :) [15:42] viu, email him [15:42] viu: Can you be a little more specific? [15:43] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-142-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:43] lol viu [15:43] setting Memory hole to true in the BIOS is only for running OS/2 [15:43] he had a box with 320MB of ram that wasn't booting [15:43] mancha: alienBOB advice me to disable memort hole before boot slackware 13 CD. [15:43] beatzz that page shows me nothing except your nick and an animated gif. unless you have some monkey script stuff which gets nuked on my ststem as a rule [15:43] aiiiiiii (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:44] viu, is that a bios setting? [15:44] mancha: yes. [15:45] viu: the memory hole setting should be permanently disabled, anyway [15:45] thanks to alienBOB, tomorrow I will install Slackware 13. [15:45] oooh.. now im cooking with gas.. rsync via lan. [15:45] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-67-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:45] Nick change: metrofox1 -> metrofox [15:45] thumbs: some FAQs advice to enable memory hole... [15:45] thumbs: old FAQs [15:45] heh. [15:45] viu what is that option for? memory hole sounds bad [15:46] it's a legacy setting. [15:46] it's probably needed for 0.1% of the hardware configurations out there. [15:46] beatzz: yup i see new index page now [15:47] beatzz: i just cleared my cache [15:47] aiiiiiii (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [15:48] niee742 (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:49] exit [15:49] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] Action: sladegen points [15:51] deco: nice [15:51] Aco-: time for html lessons :D [15:51] substancev: Good ol' rsync. It's like copy++ :D [15:51] beatzz: have you disabled (or forgot to enable) some time stamp option? [15:51] substancev: eviljames sup hommies [15:51] macavity: sup G [15:52] macavity: time stamp? on irc? i got time stamps [15:52] no, in httpd [15:52] slackbox (i=nocturna@you.just.got.strangled.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:52] there is a reason FF thinks the page is still valid... [15:52] err.. the cached page is still valid [15:53] ahhh [15:53] gotcha, no i dont know anything about time stamps on httpd [15:53] stupid FF [15:53] me neither [15:53] i know how to start/stop/restart it and edit the index.html [15:53] then you better ask google [15:54] stupid google [15:54] sladegen: are you some kind of bot that only says "stupid $KEYWORD" ? [15:55] rofl [15:55] test [15:55] u meant "/say stupud $KEYWORD" [15:55] stupid -_- [15:55] Action: beatzz shuts up [15:55] stupid stupid [15:56] stupid up [15:57] mmmm wild turkey.... [15:57] beatzz: sharez! nauw! :P [15:57] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:58] macavity: was that some danish talk? [15:58] trimmer (n=trimmer@71-213-237-159.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] not stupid bot [15:58] beatzz: no, it was lolcattish for "share! now!" :P [15:58] hey i bet you eat some kick ass paistrys up there hu? [15:59] mostly duck [15:59] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:59] that is, not counting chicken [15:59] no cinnimon rolls? [16:00] struddles? [16:00] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] Denmark != Germany :P [16:00] your mom = Germany [16:00] i should probably look up paistrys [16:00] macavity: blah you sometimes make me think it does :P [16:01] macavity: like baked goods, cakes and whatnot [16:01] sup beatzz ... just got in to work [16:01] rsyncing my compiled kernel tree to my lappy. [16:01] eviljames: no, but your mom at least has the size of Germany :P [16:01] substancev: whats happenin G [16:01] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left irc: "Fui embora" [16:01] Action: substancev is committed [16:01] nice [16:01] dont give up [16:01] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [16:01] ask enough questions on ##slackware and anything is possible [16:01] :D [16:01] macavity: _at_ _least_ [16:01] deco: that is all just in your dirty imagination :P [16:02] macavity: heh :P [16:02] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.55.102) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [16:03] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:03] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:2d) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:06] hey slackers [16:07] hey trimmers [16:07] JK3MP (n=JK3MP@173-143-219-212.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:09] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [16:10] asamoah (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: "leaving" [16:10] sup thumbs [16:10] looks like ##slackware has turned into a virtual bakery [16:11] viu (n=n@155-235-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "Out" [16:11] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [16:12] could be worse [16:13] <_slax0r_> bakery? can I has virtual cookiez? [16:13] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:14] crap [16:14] you can haz catnip [16:14] cats are gay [16:14] <_slax0r_> zomg just wat I always wanted [16:14] in the middle of make modules_install my battery ran out... stupid plug wasn't plugged in all the way [16:14] jeev: takes one to call one [16:14] can i simply just run it again? [16:15] <_slax0r_> lucky you weren't updating bios :P [16:15] <_slax0r_> yes you can, I thinkz [16:16] <_slax0r_> try and see, if you'll get kernel panic, then you can't :P [16:17] booboobeeboo [16:18] wait a minute i finished the modules_install .. [16:18] i got a warning at the end... xt-rateest.ko need unknown symbol [16:20] should i worry about that kind of warning? [16:21] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] <_slax0r_> don't think so, just make sure you keep old kernel around until you get a successful boot from that one [16:21] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] <_slax0r_> hm...which slackpack contains nslookup and dig? [16:21] <_slax0r_> oh and host? [16:21] slackware.com/pb [16:21] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] howzabout "grep nslookup /var/log/packages/*"? [16:22] only if it's installed [16:22] That assumes you have it installed [16:22] er, assuming you have it installed... you *did* do a full install on at least one machine, right? [16:22] bind contains those [16:22] nslookup is in bind, as is htdig [16:22] oh god... got my internet connection but WLAN over 2 miles... ist raining and my connections stops :S :D [16:22] <_slax0r_> Urchlay I don't haz them installzed, if I did, you wouldn't ask [16:22] yeah, I assume everyone has everything installed, if they have to ask a question like that, they aren't expert enough to do a custom install... [16:22] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:22] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] <_slax0r_> I did an expert :P [16:23] Oops. [16:24] Now you're one step closer to actually qualifying. [16:24] <_slax0r_> qualifying for what? catnip? [16:24] For doing an expert install, of course. [16:24] the annual einstein awards [16:24] <_slax0r_> oh... [16:24] yep, learn by mistakes. That's how I learn to drive in a town I've never been to before, too (get lost there. By the time I'm not lost, I know my way around...) [16:24] <_slax0r_> but all I wanted was a cookie [16:25] <_slax0r_> I didn't do a "mistake" I just didn't install bind package on a desktop, why would I want a dns server on a desktop? [16:26] Lots of reasons. To have nslookup, for starters. [16:26] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:26] that's fine then stop whining about not having nslookup and dig [16:26] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:26] <_slax0r_> rworkman, if only I knew it was in there :P [16:26] now that you know "bind" includes clients too, you can answer that question yourself... [16:26] <_slax0r_> not whining, just asking where the damn thing is [16:26] so you did do a mistake then [16:27] *shrug* I think expert installs should be encouraged [16:27] Specifically for the comparison Urchlay makes above [16:27] you failed to install the pakcage that contained the apps you wanted. [16:27] <_slax0r_> sorta... [16:27] I'm not fussing at you - I'm just pointing out. :) [16:27] (if you're used to other distros, I guess they split things up so that the clients and server are in separate packages) [16:27] <_slax0r_> there are other distros? O.O [16:27] i will not rest until we all agree it was a mistake! [16:28] and trust me, i am bored enough at work that i have plenty of time and energy to dedicate to this mission! [16:28] hey wtf does anyone else notice that there's an open kernel source tree in patches/packages? [16:28] <_slax0r_> mancha, it was a mistake, mea culpa, my bad...will you be able to rest now? [16:28] did patrick accidentally tar -xzf or whatever? [16:28] _slax0r_: I'm still not convinced these "other distros" exist. I've heard nightmarish tales... [16:29] your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prove someone you never met is wrong. This message will self-destruct in 10 seconds. [16:29] slax0r, ok, the universe is back in sync with venus and neptune ascending, yes i can rest easy now. [16:29] <_slax0r_> yeah...I've got one beside me right now [16:29] there are no distros but slackware and Patrick is the prophet [16:29] allah slackbar? [16:29] :D [16:30] chicken little did you bother to look inside the folder? [16:30] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] there is no kernel source tree in there [16:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] ChickenLittle, did you actually look inside? it contains packages [16:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] ftp.osuosl.org [16:31] as in patches/packages/linux-2.6.29.6/*.txz ? [16:32] yes [16:33] ah i see now [16:33] Action: ChickenLittle adds it to --exclude [16:34] of course, because you actually looked instead of just complaining :> [16:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [16:34] <_slax0r_> it's easier to complain [16:34] hrmmm, 12/7 dates, so i take it it's either the ip fragments or the tty race condition? [16:34] wasn't complaining, was just "wtf?" [16:35] sorry, thought process was 1) notice rsync grabbing it 2) ask what's up 3) read changelog [16:35] should probably switch 2 and 3 [16:35] you should change to 3), 1), 2) [16:35] Action: ChickenLittle shrugs [16:35] :) [16:36] thrice`: ++ [16:36] ChickenLittle: FYI..the sky is falling [16:36] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] uh FYI it's not [16:36] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.75.246.81) joined ##slackware. [16:37] ... [16:37] lol [16:37] <_slax0r_> that's what the sky want's you to think [16:37] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:38] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:38] /nod [16:40] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-164-77.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [16:41] booting into new kernel [16:41] Action: substancev grins evily [16:41] ;) [16:41] muahah its alive [16:42] \o/ [16:42] uh oh :P [16:42] Action: beatzz pours another Burbon & 7-Up in celebration [16:42] bourbon* [16:44] substancev: is this the one u have been fussing w/ for a few days now? [16:44] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] yea... i compiled it on a remote computer then rsynced the kernel tree to my laptop and installed it [16:45] wertik|afk (n=wertik@95-27-68-251.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:45] Srbo (n=Srbo@109.93.60.161) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.20) joined ##slackware. [16:45] and the new nvidia drivers compiled and installed.. and now i am a happy mofo [16:45] substancev: congrats [16:45] now to test if wireless is fixed [16:45] finally went over the hill [16:45] substancev: if it is, the first website u should visit is http://www.beatzz.co.nr/ [16:46] im at work.. is it porn related? [16:46] negitive bro. [16:46] its my server [16:46] then i can't visit [16:46] :) [16:46] :'( [16:46] it just says "beatzz" [16:46] ohhh...i get it.. [16:46] lol [16:46] ;P [16:47] nice. [16:47] where the hell is nr? [16:47] i dont know, proly some country in africa or something. [16:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.54.150) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] traceroute it [16:48] <_slax0r_> actually it's in south pacific [16:48] fire|bird: change the topic name :o [16:49] <_slax0r_> Republic of Nauru [16:49] deco: haha [16:49] A user has a directory in /var/www that is owned by him and the permissions are 755. [16:49] The user is unable to navigate into the directory. [16:49] What could cause this? [16:49] permissions on /var/www itself [16:50] what is this, a question from the RHCE exam or something? [16:50] ccfreak2k: ls -l /var/www [16:50] beatzz, then what? [16:51] that shouldn't matter [16:51] make shure the directory is exacutable [16:51] It's +x for ugo. [16:51] also, "navigate" is kind of hazy. Try using "su - username", then "cd /var/www/whatever" [16:51] I don't own /home, but surely my user can cd to /home/$user [16:51] Urchlay, did that, which causes "permission denied". [16:51] Can't 'touch' files in it either. [16:51] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:51] thrice`: sure, but you do have read and execute permission on /home [16:51] did you mkdir? [16:51] are u shure its a directory? [16:51] Yes, I'm 100% sure. [16:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-184.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:52] Unless Ubuntu's copy of mkdir doesn't actually make directories. [16:52] heh. It wouldn't surprise me :) [16:52] and its permissions read something like drwxr-xr-x? [16:52] drwxr-xr-x 2 munin munin 4096 2009-12-09 16:43 munin [16:53] group should be users not munin? [16:53] yeah, but what are the permissions of /var/www itself? [16:53] I bet ubuntu does that "each user gets his own group" thing like redhat does [16:53] beatzz, there's a munin group, and it started out like that (the user isn't part of the group though, heh). [16:53] <_slax0r_> beatzz, ubuntu makes a group for each user [16:53] lame [16:53] <_slax0r_> yeah... [16:53] 1 man groups ftw!!! [16:53] <_slax0r_> what's the file permission on /var/www ? [16:53] I added munin to the munin group, but it didn't seem to solve it. [16:54] drwsr-sr-- 10 www-data www-data 4096 2009-12-09 16:43 www [16:54] theres ur prob [16:54] eh, yeah, that's the culprit [16:54] chmod +x /var/www [16:54] <_slax0r_> hm, thgouth others had no read access [16:54] Sticky bit? [16:54] the directory is not executable, which is what allows a person to cd into it. [16:54] chmod +x /var/www [16:54] no, setuid bit (and setgid too), but those aren't the problem. The "r--" at the end it the problem [16:54] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-213-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:55] actually is *is* executable for the www-data user and group, just not "other" [16:55] Urchlay: i think ubuntu does do the user:user [16:55] (if it weren't executable for www-data user/group, those "s" characters would be capital "S") [16:55] well anywas, ccfreak2k [16:55] chmod +x /var/www [16:55] should solve ur problem [16:55] <_slax0r_> chmod o+x /var/www then :P [16:56] why not just +x ? and give it to everyone? [16:56] <_slax0r_> the chikins would fly then [16:56] unless you only want that user to be able to access the /var/www/ directory [16:56] That seems to have done the trick. [16:56] <_slax0r_> but www-data user and group already has executable [16:56] dorin (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] so it will only modify those that dont, correct _slax0r_ ? [16:57] o+x would leave the user and group permissions alone, and +x would set them (but they were already set, so they do the same thing in this case) [16:57] The user is a daemon that has its own run-time shit in /var/munin, but it writes things to /var/www/munin. [16:57] <_slax0r_> I know it doesn't hurt but...I wouldn't be me if I wouldn't complicate [16:57] boo yah! my syntax is cleaner [16:57] ggiwin [16:57] ;P [16:57] Action: _slax0r_ criez [16:57] ... [16:57] u got beat by...me... i would cry too [16:57] Now I just have to wait three minutes to see if it worked/. [16:58] just kiddin, this is all the wild turkey talking. [16:58] <_slax0r_> ccfreak2k, 3 minutes for what? [16:58] ubuntu makes you wait 3 minutes befor it changes permisons to directorys? [16:58] <_slax0r_> for webserver to restart? [16:58] super-lame [16:58] _slax0r_, three minutes for the daemon to wake up and attempt to write again. [16:58] <_slax0r_> holly crap [16:58] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:58] ccfreak2k: rm -9 ubuntu && install slackware [16:58] <_slax0r_> you either have intense amounts of web data in there, or ubuntu just became lamer [16:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtwlRcFZ1ws (how to use a double barrel potato gun) [16:59] heh, I always wanted "apt-get install slackware" to actuall work [16:59] _slax0r_, it's scheduled to run every five minutes, and at the time it was three minutes till. [16:59] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] lol Urchlay [16:59] rofl n1 Urchlay [16:59] (the daemon in question isn't Apache) [16:59] Delahunt (n=robert@ZF015240.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:59] beatzz, I wish. If it were my choice, Slackware would be on there already. [16:59] <_slax0r_> butz...apachez great [16:59] <_slax0r_> why use something else? :P [16:59] Unfortunately, it's Ubuntu because the rental server we had was Debian. [17:00] brb, need, more, whiskey [17:00] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-121.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] Only one other person didn't want Ubuntu, and he voted for FreeBSD (which would also have been fine). [17:00] <_slax0r_> talking about ubuntu does make you thirsty for whiskey.. [17:00] beatzz: I read "need, more, whiskey" with pauses, like captain kirk... [17:00] <_slax0r_> your company votes for OSes that you use? :O [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:01] hey at least they didn't vote for windows [17:01] <_slax0r_> true [17:01] _slax0r_, who says it's a company? [17:01] Also, Windows Server was put on the table as well. [17:01] <_slax0r_> ccfreak2k, it sounds like it :) [17:01] It's just a group of people who have a server that we all run. [17:02] So if we wanted, say, a game server, we could stick it on there without having to run it on our own connections. [17:02] spectre (n=kyle@41.210.144.16) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] <_slax0r_> oh [17:02] anyone here running slack on a laptop right now? [17:02] Action: Delahunt raises his hand [17:02] me too [17:03] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.75.246.81) left irc: Client Quit [17:03] you guys have wireless internet or your wired [17:03] Actually, it started out with one guy paying for a rented server, then we all chipped in to build a server and get colocated instead. [17:03] both [17:03] both [17:03] just curious.. because my wireless does half the speed of wired. [17:03] Somewhere in a datacenter in Miami is a black rackmount server with GLASNOST spraypainted on it. [17:03] substancev, you mean 54Mbits? [17:03] or half the speed of wireless in windows on the same laptop [17:04] <_slax0r_> which encryption are u using? [17:04] disregard: because my wireless does half the speed of wired [17:04] wep [17:04] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] ethernet is 100, wifi is 54 [17:05] :P [17:05] do the math [17:05] same as in windows but my wireless speeds there are FAST [17:05] substancev: check 'dmesg' see if its throwing any errors out. [17:05] acidchild: read my previous statement... to disregard... do the reading [17:05] :) [17:05] nah.. [17:05] then its all good. [17:05] the wifi drivers are pretty verb [17:06] its the sole purpose why i compiled 2.6.32 there over 2000 improvements on the wireless stack since 2.6.29.6 [17:06] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:06] according to linuxwireless.org [17:06] anyways ill test that when i get home [17:06] hmmm [17:07] unless i can use the company wireless but i don't wanna fill out an access form [17:07] substancev: <- laptop [17:07] substancev: <- expert slacktop users [17:08] wireless is not as fast as wired especially if encrypted [17:08] what do u need to know? [17:08] aircrack-ng? u need into some restricted wifi? [17:08] im ur man [17:08] a douche? [17:09] ok, now I need a nice GUI for haskell [17:09] that's one way to get fired :P [17:09] Delahunt: im not rating it to wired.. was a bad comparison.. the truth of the matter is that windows using the same encryption on the same hardware does 12-15 megabits.. but in linux slackware i get 3-4 megabits.... ubuntu didn't give me this problem if i remember correctly [17:09] which chipset and driver? [17:09] beatzz: never ventured into aircrack.. ill look into it [17:09] ChickenLittle (n=robert@Y051136.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:09] acidchild: b43 [17:10] substancev: my wifi kicks ass w/ b43 :/ [17:10] thats...why [17:10] ;D [17:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:10] madwifi or somesuch? [17:10] Broadcom... [17:10] negitive ghostrider [17:10] Action: substancev googles madwifi [17:10] one of the gay M4 pair [17:10] fuck madwifi substancev [17:10] broadcom B43 > * [17:10] substancev, then find out why that is [17:10] what a noob -.- [17:11] most people with broadcom cards use madwifi or ndiswrapper [17:11] acidchild: dont hate cause my wifi connection roxs [17:11] Necos: use b43-fwcutter and firmware [17:11] lol :P [17:11] deco: ++ [17:11] very easly obtained w/ sbopkg [17:11] i know my wireless is setup correctly.. ill properly test it when i get home.. just wanted to know if anyone was experiencing this . [17:11] i use a wired network, so i dont really care :P [17:12] if you use madwifi on broadcom chips your results will be bad [17:12] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-109-25.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] well arent you special ^_^_ [17:12] Nick change: Delahunt -> ChickenLittle [17:12] mancha: gata disagree with u buddy [17:12] huh [17:12] ive been using this laptop for 2 years now, and i NEVER have problems [17:12] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [17:12] reading is hard [17:13] it is stong as shit, i pick up signals that brand new laptops cant get. [17:13] mancha: yah one day we'll learn how. [17:13] funny how people get irate and think it's the software lol [17:13] thats just been my experence with it tho. [17:13] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.4.221) joined ##slackware. [17:13] madwifi site doesn't explain what madwifi does ;L [17:14] most the time i'd be willing to bed it's not (i.e. where you are, RF shadows, the source and type of antenna and receiving antenna, the physical laptop and how well or not well it receives etc) [17:14] madwifi is an opensource project for atheros based cards that uses atheros' hal [17:14] lol [17:14] john__ (n=john@65.125.138.2) joined ##slackware. [17:14] it is currently being displaced by the kernel mainlined ath5k/ath9k which use atheros' open sourced hal [17:14] ChickenLittle, wireless is pretty damn complex, and yeah, lots of things can go wrong [17:15] mancha: you tryed ath9k? [17:15] no [17:15] i dont have any hardware around to use it yet.. [17:15] Acer Aspire 5570z, wireless has been the easiest/best thing about this laptop. [17:15] SparkNet do 600mbps dual channel ath9k compatable chips [17:15] thats insane. [17:15] and yes, b43 is a solid project...theyve done outstanding work [17:15] indeed [17:16] open sourcing a closed source driver ;/ [17:16] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-177-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:17] unlike the madwifi/ath5k crew, who got help from a foss-friendly atheros corp, b43 dealt with broadcom, which iirc isn't particularly helpful to others [17:17] no, they're not lol [17:17] they fuck billy gates for sure. [17:17] in the butt [17:17] i don't even wanna think about that :P [17:18] i got this lappy that says 2 inodes containing multiply-claimed blocks file system check fails... bad HDD right? [17:18] non-slack [17:18] SETKEH (n=setkeh@110.23.201.110) joined ##slackware. [17:18] substancev, what does smartctl -a say ? [17:19] ("smartctl -a /dev/sda" or whatever your hard drive is) [17:19] not sure never ran it... and laptop isn't near me [17:19] beatzz: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2729/4172949090_31a93013b3_b.jpg [17:19] but ill try that [17:19] beatzz: get yourself one of them, if you want real wifi [17:19] =) [17:19] hey any IDE for ghci haskell ? [17:19] paul424: vim [17:19] XD [17:19] acid give me that link when i get my laptop on here, i dont have a mouse to c/p [17:19] give me 1 sec [17:19] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] ok repost link please [17:20] lol k http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2729/4172949090_31a93013b3_b.jpg [17:20] so i can get it [17:20] gracias [17:20] heres my kcik ass laptop [17:20] in action [17:20] wtf is that? Atari? [17:20] john__ (n=john@65.125.138.2) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:21] 6W 2.4-5Ghz wifi AP [17:21] dual channel up to 1200mbps [17:21] bullshit, thats an Atari ;) [17:21] :P [17:22] arcfide (i=arcfide@99.14.210.235) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Action: acidchild has been working on it since may :) [17:22] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-109-25.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: [17:23] rworkman: Well, what do you know, it worked. :-) I guess that just shows what I know. [17:23] thats home made? [17:23] goddamn acidchild [17:23] yay :) [17:23] i guess so? its a patented [17:23] it is* [17:23] SETKEH_ (n=setkeh@110.23.232.139) joined ##slackware. [17:23] that thing will cook ya [17:23] rworkman: So, if you use ksh, what then, is your preferred editor? :-) [17:23] Necos: yep [17:24] arcfide: psh! [17:24] best shell ever! [17:24] arcfide: vi, of course [17:24] fire|bird: fun times indeed [17:24] rworkman: Do you use vi mode in ksh? [17:24] acidchild, 6W? What country do you live in? [17:24] zsh :P [17:24] arcfide: of course :D [17:24] ccfreak2k: Canada :> [17:24] Heheh. [17:24] ccfreak2k: lol [17:25] arcfide: that makes for some crazy shit typed in bash sometimes :D [17:25] we're allowed 3W outdoor, its two radios [17:25] so its semi-legal [17:25] rworkman: I can only imagine. [17:25] rworkman uses pico [17:25] or wine notepad.exe [17:25] Definitely. [17:26] I actually have a colleague who uses elvis to program Scheme code, and has done so for years, but he uses normal Emacs bindings for his shell. [17:26] jeev uses nano [17:26] I asked him about this, and the only thing he could tell me was that he switched modes, again. :-) [17:26] so i do sometimes ? [17:26] hehe [17:26] acidchild, I don't think two radios at 3W actually makes it 6W. [17:27] ccfreak2k: haha, they are bonded and the ERP is allot higher than 6W [17:27] around 50 :/ actully [17:27] Well, off to pick up daughter from school :) [17:27] rworkman: Thanks for the help! [17:27] soon to be two [17:27] :D [17:28] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.54.150) joined ##slackware. [17:29] SETKEH__ (n=setkeh@110.23.250.12) joined ##slackware. [17:31] arcfide: http://rlworkman.net/conf/ksh/ <-- those are slightly edited versions of what I have locally. Really afk now [17:31] SETKEH (n=setkeh@110.23.201.110) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:31] rworkman: have you tried zsh ? [17:31] zsh++ [17:32] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-237.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:33] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZF015240.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [17:33] agreed [17:33] deco: 'tis safe to return... unless you wandered away due to me [17:34] eviljames: oh no [17:34] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.74.84.18) joined ##slackware. [17:34] zsh for lazy people like me [17:35] zsh is kind of weird. [17:35] deco: you missed the story of the poopy bible though [17:35] arcfide: how so? [17:35] compiz-fusion removed from slackbuilds? [17:35] freddy3 (n=frederic@87.196.165.201) joined ##slackware. [17:36] eviljames: It always seems like it changes or behaves in strange ways, and is more of a collection of cobbled together features than anything. Still, it's not an unusable client to be sure. I think I've just come to find ksh more to my liking. [17:36] mister hanky from south park plays jesus? [17:36] v4nelle: There was never a slackbuild for compiz-fusion on Slackware 13.0. The one for 12.2 is still there. [17:36] Regardless, I don't spend that much time with the shells, and especially, any scripting to do in Scheme, so, that's where I see most of the complaints against zsh. [17:37] adamk, it works on 13.0? [17:37] what do you think of adding another package managet to system - cabal-install ? [17:37] v4nelle: Don't know, never tried. I've always build c-f directly from source manually. [17:39] eviljames: what's your opinion ? hmm won't that mess up system ? [17:40] paul424: I am opposed to package management outside of {install,remove,upgrade}pkg. [17:40] paul424: I think most things can be made into a slackware .tgz and used with the default tools. [17:41] SETKEH___ (n=setkeh@110.22.201.139) joined ##slackware. [17:46] SETKEH____ (n=setkeh@110.22.219.89) joined ##slackware. [17:47] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.124) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [17:47] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.124) joined ##slackware. [17:48] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:48] arcfide (i=arcfide@99.14.210.235) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [17:51] SETKEH_ (n=setkeh@110.23.232.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] SETKEH_ (n=setkeh@110.22.88.31) joined ##slackware. [17:53] errr ... supose no one has cabal package builded ... is there a way of using to that purpose a src2pkg ? [17:54] Whats the best way to take screenshots in XFCE ? [17:54] there is an xfce plugin you can install, or just "import" from the CLI [17:55] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/xfce4-screenshooter/ [17:55] SETKEH___ (n=setkeh@110.22.201.139) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:55] scrot is nice for cli [17:55] rafu (i=1000@77.53.11.175) joined ##slackware. [17:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:57] arcfide (i=arcfide@adsl-99-14-210-235.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] SETKEH___ (n=setkeh@110.22.85.16) joined ##slackware. [17:57] rafu (i=1000@77.53.11.175) left ##slackware. [17:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] rafu (i=1000@77.53.11.175) joined ##slackware. [17:59] scrot -d 5 , say cheese [17:59] where can i find the system.twmrc file? the system config for twm [17:59] sleep 5 && import -window root ss.png [18:00] thrice`: too long :p [18:00] that's what she said [18:00] i'm not seeing it in /etc/X11/ [18:00] :D [18:00] fire|bird: i wish [18:00] deco: re your question a couple of days ago, yes I will be moving my linode. [18:01] BP{k}: hehe cool [18:01] vastina: /usr/share/X11/twm/system.twmrc [18:01] adamk: sweet! cheers [18:01] vastina: "locate" is a very useful took for such inquiries :-) [18:01] SETKEH__ (n=setkeh@110.23.250.12) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] adamk: allow, i'm having a lazy day [18:01] :) [18:02] locate is for the lazy... imagine running find / ... [18:02] haha [18:02] SETKEH__ (n=setkeh@110.23.244.138) joined ##slackware. [18:02] (22:59) < Warlock__> apparently no ones lighters would work because of the lack of oxygen [18:02] i'll not imagine that [18:02] ^^ damnnnn [18:03] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [18:03] acidchild: that's a hell of a smoke sesh [18:04] quote about a dubstep rave in london [18:04] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] thats like dangeriously low oxygen levls [18:05] SETKEH_ (n=setkeh@110.22.88.31) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:05] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.74.84.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] acidchild: hahahah definitely [18:07] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [18:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.20) left irc: [18:07] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.74.89.87) joined ##slackware. [18:07] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [18:08] hmmmm, anyone using GSB by chance? [18:09] Action: eviljames shivers [18:09] oh, you didn't say GHB nv [18:09] m [18:09] slackbox (i=nocturna@you.just.got.strangled.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] GSB :P gnome slackbuild [18:10] oh even worse [18:10] :P [18:10] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [18:11] SETKEH (n=setkeh@114.74.89.87) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:11] well, since i can't use Kontact as my PIM package, i gotta switch to something else :P [18:11] so i was gonna much with evolution [18:11] *muck [18:11] damn keyboards :P [18:11] Rat409_ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] Necos: It's called Emacs and BBDB. :-P [18:11] Why can't you use Kontact? [18:12] hmm...i need an idea. since ages i have bound alt-s to blank my screen (xset s activate)...installed slack64 on new box, that xset isnt working anymore [18:12] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-16.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] SETKEH___ (n=setkeh@110.22.85.16) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:12] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:13] BBDB? :P [18:13] root@FUBx:/home/masterx831# slackpkg clean-system This appears to be the first time you have run slackpkg. Before you install|upgrade|reinstall anything, you need to [18:13] Necos: Big Boobs DataBase. duh. :P [18:13] i can't use Kontact because it's not supported by opensync [18:13] this thing is so stupid why can't i clean my ssytem [18:13] lol [18:13] could someone point me to documentation on how to upgrade the kernel packages (Security Adv)? [18:13] Doesn't Slackware come with a fairly nice CLI PIM? [18:13] jsut by takign off a comment [18:13] big brother... [18:13] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-43-167-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] arcfide: yep, it does. Vim. [18:14] emacs! [18:14] eviljames: I wasn't going to suggest the Text Editor route. :-) [18:14] I figured that was a pretty obvious route. [18:14] route sounds way to fency. [18:14] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] n [18:15] Kidpunkx, becasue you need to update the file list first [18:15] msql [18:15] add your info there1 [18:15] eviljames: must have been massive...wish i was there to get oxygen deprived with the rest of em [18:15] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] acidchild: heh I came across a couple of very nice ways to deprive myself of oxygen recently :P [18:15] lol [18:15] mm, panda express [18:16] Orange chicken/Kung pow ckicken [18:16] eviljames: sick! [18:16] is one of them nitrous ej? >.> [18:16] Necos: both are types of bud [18:16] eviljames: haha, funny man [18:16] keep that bed play to yourself. [18:17] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.19.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] how about a rope? [18:17] Action: arcfide likes oxygen. [18:17] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:17] catnip [18:17] SETKEH____ (n=setkeh@110.22.219.89) left irc: Connection timed out [18:17] hahahah [18:17] i just broke up with my gf, so no more of that for me ;/ [18:17] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:18] thrice`, I did that like 6x unless i'm doing it wrong [18:18] acidchild: the one that got mad at you for reponding ? [18:18] acidchild: No more auto-erotic asphixiation? [18:18] or do you mean more of that for you...? [18:18] eviljames: indeed. [18:18] acidchild: Dr. Dre - "Bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks" [18:18] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] beatzz: yep [18:18] Kidpunkx, you are :> first uncomment a mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, and then "slackpkg update" [18:18] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] thb, she was pretty fantastic in the department that guys like most [18:19] shame we had so little common ground [18:19] ;( [18:19] hey, at least you dident get her pregnate. [18:19] then marry her [18:19] Action: beatzz /clear [18:19] yah cuz that is how babby is formed [18:19] Action: acidchild lives in the modern world. [18:19] acidchild: cooking? =) [18:19] BP{k}: no! indeed... [18:20] agreed, cooking > * :> [18:20] BP{k}: she was veg i was mean eater... [18:20] BP{k}: & thrice` www.beatzz.co.nr [18:20] :o [18:20] oh naw man, bah.. anyways i'm going on a date with a very wonderful girl on friday... after not seeing each other for a year due to my relationship [18:20] could someone point me to a link or some documentation on how to upgrade the kernel packages (Security Adv)? [18:20] so we'll see how that goes. [18:20] beatzz, cool :) [18:21] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Nick change: oobe -> blowme [18:22] Nick change: blowme -> oobe [18:22] Action: acidchild murders oobe [18:22] ok I'm deleting finland along with the the url on mirros [18:22] plus using nano [18:22] thanks just what i needed [18:23] Kidpunkx, only uncomment 1 mirror, for your architecture too [18:23] thats not very nice i hope your not in the U.N [18:23] BP{k}: sucks letting something so beautiful go ;< [18:23] Action: acidchild plays the emo violin to himself. [18:24] I was very happy to discover that there was a local University Slackware mirror that was not listed on the website. [18:24] Action: beatzz plays Alan Jackson - If you want to make me happy.mp3 [18:24] hahahahahah alan jackson ahahaha [18:25] slava_dp (n=slava@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] i only heard that from home improvement [18:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYfOXe5zLc [18:25] listen to the song jeev , and you will understand [18:25] 'Borgore - Love' [18:25] no [18:25] ok, well its about "pour me bourbon, on the rocks" [18:26] the only redneck i'll remotely listen to is kid rock and that's the signal to change the station [18:27] Ivshti (n=ivo@77.76.51.32) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Hi [18:27] do you know how to automatically generate /usr/share/applications/defaults.list [18:27] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [18:28] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:31] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-064.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "I regret Nothing..." [18:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szLmAPW39uE [18:31] Americans pwnts xmas [18:32] SETKEH__ (n=setkeh@110.23.244.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] George Throughgood [18:34] Thoroughgood [18:34] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [18:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] tripFantastic: Trans Siberian Orchestra [18:35] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.4.221) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:35] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.76) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Rat409_ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [18:38] Nick change: oobe -> someoneelse [18:39] Nick change: someoneelse -> oobe [18:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521421.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [18:40] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] UFO seen over sweden or someplace; NBC reports, [18:42] it's probably dick cheney [18:43] must be jeev's mom [18:43] heh, it was white and a blue tail [18:43] tripFantastic: that was Norway, not Sweden. [18:43] ahh [18:43] deco's sister [18:43] ok [18:43] thrice`: # In this file you can find mirrors for the following (in this order): [18:43] # Slackware (x86) ftp://ftp.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/os/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [18:43] nbc had a pic; it looked kool [18:43] Action: substancev does the cabbage patch dance [18:43] my local directory i#/usr/doc/linuxdoc-tools-0.9.56/ [18:44] i've lost my tv remote -- GIVE IT BACK!!! [18:44] j0z (n=j0z@189.58.1.109.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:44] that's not a ufo [18:44] it's the republican party lying to themselves [18:45] that's uranus! [18:45] Kidpunkx_ (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-16.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] Kidpunkx_ (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-16.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:45] Not mine deco! [18:45] :o [18:45] OURANOS is too far away to be seen like that [18:45] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@adsl-235-213-16.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:46] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:47] fire|bird was the UFO a stellar event or atmospheric? [18:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-95.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:48] macavity: got 2.6.32 on my laptop. had to compile remotely then rsync tree to my lap.. [18:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:49] alienBOB, maybe it was you who caused that thing in the skies [18:49] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [18:49] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521421.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:49] jeev: you guessed! [18:50] substancev: good :-) [18:50] that happens here when i aim high and fart into the sky [18:50] anyway, i hope it was sarah palin imploding [18:51] Someone took a shot with his railgun [18:51] maybe it was Raliens? [18:51] i wish i had a railgun [18:51] test alienBOB [18:51] i know man.. now to see if it is actually going to make my wireless better. [18:51] s blood [18:51] test alienBOB's blood [18:51] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:52] some people said it wasn't alien, we'll announce at the end of next week what it was [18:52] maybe a bob [18:52] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] i hope whatever it is is enough to take over america... so the losers could stop talking on t.v. about how obama destroyed the country and maybe get some time to think about the past 8 years [18:53] deco, i saw a cat today [18:53] jeev: :o what color ? [18:53] teal [18:53] jeev: hmmm interesting [18:54] and then there was another one beside it. purple [18:54] jeev: were you on acid ? [18:54] wait, i think i saw paris hilton and teal was the color of her pubes and purple was the bag she was carrying [18:54] i'm not sure [18:55] deco, is it freezing where you're at [18:55] jeev: yeah it is :/ [18:56] that means hard nipples, unfortunately the only ones you see are yours@ [18:56] ! [18:56] o_o [18:56] tripFantastic: I'm not sure, I haven't seen much about it. [18:56] jeev: nah i'm wearing a sweater ... i'm warm [18:56] tripFantastic: This is where I seen about it: http://gizmodo.com/5422574/giant-mysterious-spiral-takes-over-the-skies-of-norway?skyline=true&s=x [18:56] ah [18:57] jeev: i also wear it when i go to sleep [18:57] deco, weren't you the one who said you wear a condom in your sleep incase of a wetdream ? [18:57] jeev: hmmmm nope ...i would wear a diaper [18:57] freddy3 (n=frederic@87.196.165.201) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:58] p00p dream [18:59] can anyone recommend a router distribution of linux? [18:59] freebsd [18:59] :p [18:59] what [18:59] freebsd isn't a router distro of linux you turd [18:59] jeev: i know ! [18:59] there is that clarkconnect stuff [18:59] freebsd is fine for me, but i want something designed to work as a router [18:59] i never liked it [19:00] if you want a freebsd dist, use pfsense.com, clarkconnect = linux i think but pfsense is better [19:01] jeev: thanks for your suggestions, i'll definitely check them out :D [19:01] ok [19:01] hmmmm i have this old pc i can setup as a server if i could just find a monitor to set it up [19:02] for hosting [19:02] hhaha [19:02] can you host my website?!?! [19:03] jeev: nooO00 you have a lot of servers , in fact you should be hosting my stuff [19:03] pfft [19:03] im nopt gonna host goatsecx [19:03] heh [19:03] actually just slackware packages and screenshots [19:04] Nick change: tripFantastic -> BlackIrishAndPro [19:04] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] jeev: pfsense looks really nice, thanks for the suggestion :D [19:04] Nick change: BlackIrishAndPro -> tripFantastic [19:04] out of curiosity, do you know if it has wireless support [19:04] deco: fwiw, if you want to come back to ##slackware-offtopic, it's safe now. :P The debate is over. [19:04] fire|bird: woot!!! thanks [19:04] you're welcome [19:05] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [19:06] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-121.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:06] well, that was a bit of a dumb question, i guess i meant to ask if it had wireless streamlined well [19:07] fire|bird, and deco [19:07] well the bonsoir [19:07] :) [19:07] hi fredoslack [19:08] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) joined ##slackware. [19:08] hi fredoslack [19:09] Action: mohaa zzzzz [19:09] deco, i've got [19:09] n8 [19:09] new small yellow heads [19:09] =) [19:09] i'm happy lol [19:09] fredoslack: nice :D [19:09] Kamel: If Slack does? [19:10] Kamel: oh, backlog.. nvm [19:10] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [19:10] eviljames: heh, np :P [19:10] deco, good coffee loooooool http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/xcache4.gif [19:11] fredoslack: lol [19:11] hahah, every time I see one of fredoslack's looooool I thnk "Laughing OOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUTTT loud" [19:12] eviljames, j'en découpe sometime [19:12] at the work [19:12] oh [19:12] looks like it :P [19:12] deco, look at this [19:12] wait please [19:12] :p [19:13] ok [19:13] Nick change: fredoslack -> fredoslack|searc [19:15] Nick change: fredoslack|searc -> fredoslack [19:16] deco, sorry [19:16] i don't find my pictures [19:16] :( [19:17] deco, but i can [19:17] show you my avatar lool [19:17] waiit please lool [19:17] hehe [19:18] cteg_ (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [19:20] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:20] i love random reboots :( [19:21] could someone point me to a link or some documentation on how to upgrade the kernel packages (Security Adv)? [19:21] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [19:21] rafu (i=1000@77.53.11.175) left irc: "leaving" [19:23] deco, comment do you trouve mes small heads [19:23] :) [19:23] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Client Quit [19:24] sorry for my aproximatif english [19:24] :( [19:24] I believe we call that Frenglish [19:24] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:24] lol [19:24] v6CommO: You did get the e-mail, I'm assuming? [19:25] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:25] v6CommO: The security e-mail does say "Upgrade the packages as root and reinstall LILO" [19:25] Someone else may have to take it from here, I gtg [19:26] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:26] eviljames: yes...just curious which packages to use and in which order [19:27] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] Nick change: cteg_ -> cteg [19:30] deco, >> http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/download/file.php?id=11&mode=view [19:31] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:31] fredoslack: wow pretty :) [19:34] deco, http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/download/file.php?id=8&mode=view [19:34] sorry for the URL [19:34] =) [19:34] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:35] fredoslack: nice bird [19:35] deco, on le mangerait [19:35] teeeeeeeeheee [19:35] hi hi [19:35] it's legs are so tiny [19:36] damn, eh? >.> [19:37] Necos, i saw the news.. you were one of Tiger's lovers [19:37] nah, that was your gf's sister [19:37] gay [19:38] i wish i was .... i could get enough money from him to pay a VPS [19:38] hell even dedicated [19:38] that's all you'd get ? [19:38] pff [19:38] you could get a datacenter [19:38] i'm not greedy [19:38] deco, you gotta think bigger than that... you make a terrible groupie [19:39] heh [19:40] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:42] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-95.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] JK3MP (n=JK3MP@173-143-219-212.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:43] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] hrm something is wrong with utf8 now in my new installation [19:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-95.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:45] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:47] how can i check a HDD health that doesn't have extended filesystem nor SMART [19:47] cteg, such as? [19:48] with a utility made by the manufacturer [19:49] i did'nt changed my configs, but now if i look for example at my mp3 playlist those funny icelandic ones for example are garbled [19:49] brb in a min [19:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:52] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:55] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [19:55] anyone use kstars? [19:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] only change i made was to ext4 [19:56] but it looks garbled on my ext3 usbdisk as well [19:56] same terminal, font, everything [19:58] SETKEH (n=setkeh@110.23.162.188) joined ##slackware. [19:58] hm wait can it be somewhat bash related [19:58] just saw ncmpc displays ok [19:58] SETKEH (n=setkeh@110.23.162.188) left irc: Client Quit [19:59] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:59] SETKEH (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:01] ehh epic fail after an hour or so I get make error arghhh [20:02] could someone have gtk2hs build already ? [20:04] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-085-016-100-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [20:05] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [20:05] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:05] SETKEH (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [20:06] SETKEH (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521421.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [20:08] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:09] guys, is it possible to tell wicd to keep connecting to the access point with the best signal and same essid? [20:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-174-95.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:10] l0lwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [20:14] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:14] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] hmmm, did you muck with your language variables cteg? [20:16] Kaapa: yes [20:16] check "automatically connect to this essid" [20:16] In the network settings [20:20] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:21] j0z (n=j0z@189.58.1.109.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:23] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] Ivshti (n=ivo@77.76.51.32) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [20:30] xc [20:30] NaCl: thanks [20:30] np [20:35] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [20:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:40] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) joined ##slackware. [20:42] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. 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[21:01] tk3000 (n=tk3000@adsl-68-77-110-83.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] grep 'foo' | grep 'bar' [21:03] aha I thought there;'s a switch or something ... ok thanks [21:03] recently upgraded to 13.0, and amoung the glitches was that touchpad on netbook did not work. I then found out that the kernel livel driver (ps2) for the touchpad/mouse has been compiled as a module. Once the modules was loaded on runtime (modprobe psmouse) the touchpad was recognized. Did you anyone else had such problem? [21:03] grep "foo|bar" or \| (never can remember if and when) perhaps even egrep vel -e [21:04] the vertical bar is OR [21:04] sane difference [21:04] > the vertical bar is OR, no it's a pipe [21:04] in a regex pattern [21:05] Action: sladegen smacks paul424 [21:05] Action: sladegen is hallecunitayng. [21:06] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [21:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. 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[21:26] some sort of middle ground between the two [21:26] k [21:27] hmmm good enough i guess [21:27] jeev, you wouldn't know what to do with a girl, they are different than what you're used to [21:27] ;o [21:27] thrice`, that's right.. i wouldn't call your mother a girl [21:28] :O !!! [21:28] jeev: class != classroom :/ [21:28] yea [21:28] lol [21:28] j0z (n=j0z@189.58.16.115.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:28] Action: wollw expected an article about some teachers trying to teach a class naked [21:28] damn wish they used me as the penis dummy [21:29] stupid of them to do that at school... stupid to cheat... [21:30] how to quickly determine which mirror uses slackpkg ? now ? [21:31] look in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [21:31] vojnet (n=dragan@c-76-16-109-79.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:31] In soviet russia, slackpkg uses YOU!!! [21:32] wollw: hmm I thought about a swithc [21:32] cat /etc/slackpkg/mirrors| grep -v '#' [21:32] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:33] thrice`: hehehe always better [21:36] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:36] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:36] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:36] paul424, :) [21:37] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:37] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:39] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) left irc: "Leaving" [21:40] ktos (i=ktos@dynamic-78-8-57-143.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:40] Hi all [21:40] hi [21:40] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [21:40] tell me please, how can I get current dhpc client table? I mean list of client currently connected [21:41] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [21:42] ktos, try /var/state/dhcp [21:43] Nick change: hiptobecubic^ -> hiptobecubic [21:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] hi bird that is on fire [21:44] hi Pig_Pen :) [21:44] cold up there? [21:45] whats the temp fire|bird ? [21:45] Pig_Pen: oh yeah, -2F, -20F with windchill. [21:46] whew!, i hope your house has good heat [21:46] yeah, thankfully. :P [21:46] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-98-149-8-157.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] hey is there a command beep sound or something ? I want to know when some compilation ends ... [21:53] hey are you deaf ? [21:54] i cant read either [21:55] Pig_Pen: darn, guess we shuld hve got that there edumacation after all. :/ [21:55] :P [21:55] i have no idea how to implement a console beep when a command completes its run [21:55] yeah [21:55] echo \a [21:56] hmm that failed [21:56] that shoulda worked [21:57] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:58] a kernel module is what makes that happen pcspkr [21:58] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] k [21:58] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [21:58] \you mean echo -e '\x7' ? I have broken the internal speaker anyway [21:59] if I try to type something to /dev/audio I got "device busy" [21:59] echo ^V^G workd [21:59] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:01] tripFantastic: are you on trip ? [22:02] pipe the output to /dev/audio, when the compiling is done, the noise will stop :) [22:02] tripping the light fantastic :) [22:02] he is just speshul [22:02] that too [22:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:05] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: [22:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] ls -la | /dev/audio bash: /dev/audio: Permission denied [22:05] whats wrong the permissions are fine ....... [22:06] is pcspkr module loaded? [22:07] paul424, try "cat somefile > /dev/audio" [22:08] tripFantastic: just modprobed ... wait [22:09] bash: /dev/audio: Device or resource busy. hmmmmmmmm ......... [22:10] couldn't that be that the sound server has the exclusive access to that file ? [22:11] are you using kde? [22:12] yess [22:12] well, arts is gone.. have you used flash recently? 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[22:27] Action: fhobia wonders if his terminals is not setup right [22:28] I have one fork, one knife, three spoons, a coffee mug and now no pint glass [22:28] beer in the coffee mug FTW [22:28] fhobia, not by default, but you can use scripts to colorize [22:28] ah, ok [22:30] irssi has a nickcolor plugin thingy [22:31] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:34] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:36] [##slackware] [22:41] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [22:41] who use the cabal packager ? [22:43] makepkg, installpkg, removepkg & etc (slackware's package tools) is all a slacker needs [22:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [22:44] explodepkg [22:44] you forgot explodepkg [22:46] BOOM! [22:50] sleepytime for me, laters [22:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [22:51] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@bender.elementalit.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:53] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "allbright" [23:01] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [23:02] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:02] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [23:11] is t-bird 2.0.0.x eol'd? [23:11] Well, tbird 3.0 is released, so if not yet, maybe soon? [23:12] is tbird 2 based on gecko 1.8? if so it's dead, gecko 1.8 is eol'd i hink [23:13] I think it is, yeah. [23:13] when did tbird 3 get released? [23:14] yesterday [23:14] http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-12-08-01 [23:14] ah ok, so there's 6 months of tbird 2, per policy. so they must be keeping gecko 1.8 alive just for that [23:15] I've got it built on my desktop, but it doesn't seem to build on my laptop (64bit) [23:15] you compiled tbird 3 from source? [23:15] not even pat goes to that trouble...why didn't you take their packaged binary? [23:15] I used slack's slackbuild, which for 32bit, uses the binary. 64bit uses source and that's what I'm having issues. [23:16] fire|bird: Did you use the stock Slackware build script for Thunderbird? [23:16] doh [23:16] antiwire: yeah [23:16] 3.0 packaged properly? [23:16] you used the tbird 2.0 compile script on tbird 3? [23:17] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [23:17] antiwire: I had to comment out the patch(s), but other than that, yeah, wen't well, working great. [23:17] Nick change: BOFH -> Dominian [23:17] mancha: yeah [23:17] oh i see, the one that makes a package out of the binary worked, the compiling one borked... [23:17] nice thanks [23:17] mancha: yes [23:17] antiwire: you're welcome [23:18] is it worth it? improvements? new features? [23:18] mancha: the compiled one gave an error about choosing an engine, or something along those lines, although the slackbuild already specifies one. [23:18] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:19] i am sure some config flags have changed... [23:19] mancha: imo, yes, improved quite a bit, I really like the tabbed ui it has, and the search is much better as well. [23:19] hrmm, okay, i'll dl the source and get compiling before the weekend then...sounds neat. thought i am still addicted to mutt [23:20] i just like to *know* i have it there if i ever wanna fire it up, lame but that's the way she blows [23:22] DukeOfMilan (n=kevin@unaffiliated/dukeofmilan) joined ##slackware. [23:22] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] hrmm, policy is they support the previous for 6 months after the new on firebird, does that hold for tbird too? cause i see no updates on tbird 2 since 8/09 [23:23] iirc tbird 3 is about to release stable [23:24] Dominian: already has, yesterday. [23:24] mancha: Ah, you are correct, the toolkit option has changed. :) Thanks for mentioning that. [23:24] fire|bird: oh? [23:24] Dominian: yup, http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-12-08-01 [23:25] well I'll be [23:25] hehe [23:25] night al [23:25] all [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] fire, i gave up on waiting for pat to make seamonkey 2 available for older releases so i made my own [23:26] turns out you can compile 10 kernels in less time than one seamonkey :> [23:28] hahaha [23:28] yeah, seamonkey takes a while. [23:28] just extracting the source is a daunting task. [23:28] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211cf.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:29] mancha: Ah, there's even an option now (--enable-calendar) to get the built-in lightning extension [23:30] lightning is included in the tbird 3 source? [23:31] yes [23:31] these days that's so much better than the stand-alone calendar [23:31] I knew it would be, just hadn't looked into the tbird source build on 64bit to see the options yet. [23:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [23:31] I wasn't sure if it'd be an extra option or just included regardless. [23:32] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [23:34] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Connection timed out [23:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:35] solarisk (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:35] ftw ? how I was able to move the file in the tree dir., which is actually downloading ? [23:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:36] you probably successfully corrupted the file [23:36] engrish translation kthnx [23:37] yeah cause I used the root ...shouldn;'t that file have lock or somethign ? [23:37] setkeh_ (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [23:37] the root [23:37] the root is on fire [23:38] while being downloaded ? [23:38] SETKEH (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:38] we dont know what you were doing, you talk like we know [23:38] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] we don't need no sudo let the filesystem burn. [23:39] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) left irc: "sleep" [23:39] antiwire: you mean I could corrupt the filesystem by this ;\ [23:39] probably not the whole FS but certainly file corruption is possible [23:39] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:40] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] so .. you moved a file that was in the process of downloading? [23:40] yes ... [23:40] i dont think anything is corupt/wrong [23:41] if you move a 1/2 downloaded file then yeah, it would be borked [23:42] DukeOfMilan (n=kevin@unaffiliated/dukeofmilan) left ##slackware. [23:43] just forget ... [23:44] What type of download was it? [23:44] which protocol? [23:44] you asked it man [23:45] hehehe it was http [23:46] Just realized how slackbuilds can be useless : i wanted to use sources of diffrent version .. but then the slackbuild wanted to path the makefile and of course didn;'t succeeded as it was diffrent version (diffrent script) [23:46] Useless? [23:47] It's only useless if you fail to make the changes required to allow the script to behave the way you need it to. [23:47] what language are you speaking? [23:47] giberish? [23:47] paul424, did you edit the slackbuild for the version number of the source? [23:48] The script was specifically designed by the author to cover an expected scenario, not some randomly created situation. On top of that, it *is* a script which in in such a form as to be user modifiable.... [23:48] Slack--s--s--Slack--Slack--s--s--Slack--Samurai Slack--dun dun-dun-dun dah [23:48] Slack will defeat Aku [23:48] in in/is in [23:48] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:49] often you are lucky, and build scripts will apply to later versions, but when there are patches or heavily changing upstream changes then you'll surely have a bit of editing to do. [23:49] don't see how this translates into slackbuids are useless though... [23:50] They aren't useless. Even if a newer source version breaks the script, the script itself serves as a template which was, at some point, a valid solution. [23:50] fire|bird: Do I really speak giberish ? [23:51] paul424: I said that more as a joke, but at times you don't really say anything that resembles a coherent sentence. [23:51] paul424: not quite gibberish, but sometimes your translations mis-fire. [23:52] arcfide (i=arcfide@adsl-99-14-210-235.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Zzzz." [23:52] eviljames: upps I try ... sometimes I am tired ... also I am not used to english IT jargon. [23:53] paul424: it is no problem, your english is good enough most of the time and seems to be improving [23:53] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-59-27-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] paul424: Your English is better than a large percentage of native speakers. I think 'useless' was just a bit harsh. No stress. [23:54] yeah don't take my comment to heart, the engrish is just fine..your message, while misguided, comes across loud and clear. [23:55] hehehe ok [23:57] i just figured out you typed "ftw" and meant "wtf" [23:58] Yeah a little aixelsyd [23:58] ftw = for the win [23:58] evening peeps! :D [23:58] y0 agentc0re [23:58] fire|bird: how goes it? [23:58] yeah but corrupting a download in progress sure isn't win [23:58] hi agentc0re [23:58] lol [23:58] agentc0re: goes great, thanks. you? [23:58] i have overcome my lysdexia [23:58] dive: sup dude? [23:59] long time no see [23:59] I really do transpose things all the time [23:59] fire|bird: long nite at work. Got both my xenservers to 5.5.0 though. :D [23:59] or, long time me idle and no chat [23:59] It often comes and goes in waves for me though [23:59] agentc0re: awesome. :) [23:59] I might not do it for months and then all of a sudden I'll find myself transposing numbers in a string [23:59] dive: totally. I've been mia for a while, work has been ass and cheese lately.. [00:00] --- Thu Dec 10 2009