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[01:05] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:10] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:10] fl (~fl@114.251.86.0) left irc: Quit: Bye [01:13] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] ok, I have downloaded the kde3.5.3 how to install it in /opt ? [01:16] s/kde/kdevelop [01:21] ThomasLocke_ (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:22] paul424: is it a source pkg, an rpm ,a slackware pkg ? [01:24] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:27] Rat409: its a pkg package [01:27] upps sorry tgz package [01:27] tgz does NOT make a slackware package :) [01:27] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] so guess would be source? [01:29] well unpack it to a folder in your home,read the readme,install notes. could use autotools,cmake,etc. [01:31] paul424: theres diff ways to build from source.depends on what it is. [01:33] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:33] well let's start at the beginning. [01:33] paul424: where did you download it from? [01:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:38] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:39] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.211.12) joined ##slackware. [01:39] BP{k}: slackware repostiory of 12.2 version [01:39] paul424: and you are running? [01:40] slackware 13.0 current [01:40] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [01:41] iGaucho (~marco@72.8.67.132) joined ##slackware. [01:42] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:43] paul424: well I can't say how well that will work, but .. you might want to try the unsupported/3.5.10/kdevdelop package for slackware-13.0 [01:44] but there is a chance neither might work due to library changes and such. [01:45] ok, even if I install them in separate directory. [01:47] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC300D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:47] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:48] BP{k}: right ? [01:49] iGaucho (~marco@72.8.67.132) left irc: Quit: iGaucho [01:49] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:50] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-220.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:51] uhh never mind I will do the downgrade then. [01:51] paul424: even if you do that, it might not work. plus -current is based on QT4, so just installing an KDE 3 app will not work. [01:54] uhb I have some kde3 backup ... I don;'t remember that package name ... but it was made for compatibility with kde3 [01:55] well since you are running -current, you're obviously skilled enough to deal with that. [01:56] pff :) [01:57] anyway the kdevelop is developing very slowing still having major bugs at 8 beta release. It's due to that most work is done by one dude nicknammed apaku. ehh [01:59] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:03] uhh I mean the coding is only up to one guy. [02:08] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:10] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:10] Urchlay: yes? [02:11] eh, sorry, thought I was about to ping timeout [02:12] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [02:12] something screwy going on with cable modem service here [02:14] hehe no worries :) [02:16] apparently having trouble making new TCP connections, but existing ones stay connected [02:16] probably stupid ISP transparent proxying me through some flaky server that's too busy [02:17] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:30] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:31] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [02:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:34] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [02:35] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.224) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:36] Camarade_Tux: news: it's already on github :P [02:36] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:43] pprkut: if you feel like updating your acpica slackbuild there is a new verions out :-) [02:44] anyhow.. afk [02:45] ienh (~ienh@rennes.elikya.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Deiz (~swh@unaffiliated/deiz) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:47] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [02:49] Camarade_Tux: oops, that was meant for macavity [02:49] macavity: ^^ ;) [02:53] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[03:59] when i try to boot into my slackware machine, it seems to stop after line" Module dependencies up to date (no new kernel modules found)." [04:00] with no further progress [04:01] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:01] any ideas? [04:02] tewmten: my hip and knee are sore and keeping me awake so I make a cup of tea and took something for it and am sitting here waiting for it to take effect - then I'm going back to bed heh 5am here [04:02] reboot and at the lilo prompt, add "3" - ex: label=linux: "linux 3" [04:02] that will take you to console mode and see what's up [04:03] alisonken1noc: is more awake and faster than I this AM. :) [04:03] can one infer from the noc that you're at work? :) [04:03] as is normal for this time of the week :) [04:05] :) [04:08] NyteOwl: man that sucks [04:08] any solutions to my prob? [04:08] i'm just doing some administrative work [04:08] taking care of tickets that needs to be updated [04:08] neo12: did you try booting into runlevel 3 like I suggested? [04:08] writing some documentation [04:10] alison: I get that message on boot, to edit the lilo file i'll have to have a working box to edit the /etc dir [04:10] neo12: you don't need to edit lilo, that's an option you already have at the lilo boot prompt [04:10] so type 3 on the lilo prompt? [04:11] ah i c [04:11] let me try it [04:11] at the lilo prompt, hit the shift key, select the option to boot, then add a 3 before hitting enter [04:11] either shift or tab, forgot which one [04:11] ok [04:12] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:12] it never did this b4 [04:12] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:12] why is it doing that anyway? [04:13] stopping at that point? don't know yet [04:14] ok brb [04:14] neo12 (~anonymous@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [04:19] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:27] neo12 (~anonymous@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:27] Alison: your suggestion does not work [04:28] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [04:28] what that does is take you to console mode to see if you have a graphics issue [04:28] do you get a login console? [04:30] it was always on console mode [04:30] no dont it pasuses on line I pasted [04:30] no I dont* [04:30] before the login prompt [04:32] ok - try booting to single mode (use "single" or "1" instead of 3) and see if it gets you to a login prompt [04:32] after that, check your /etc/rc.d scripts and make sure the proper ones are marked executable [04:33] moo-sko (~dfadf@adsl-82-141-90-89.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [04:33] neo12 (~anonymous@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [04:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [04:43] paul424 (1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [04:54] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:57] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:58] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [05:05] Morn [05:07] Action: Zordrak just received his Super Dual Box Pro PS2 gamepad to USB converter :) [05:09] Action: NyteOwl going back to bed - nite all [05:09] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [05:12] sirslacker| (1001@s0823.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:13] Action: slava_dp bought himself a home ADSL Wi-Fi router \o/ [05:13] sirslacker (1001@s0823.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:14] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker| [05:17] Action: Zordrak introduces slava_dp to the 21st Century [05:18] Zordrak, i had an adsl modem for years. thanks for the intro. [05:19] Zordrak, the true geek :P [05:19] this new thing has 4 eth ports, wiifi and usb printer/storage sharing. won't be able to test it till next week though.... [05:22] spmd (~loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. 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[06:38] dihr (~dihr@e179154013.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:42] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [06:46] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:47] hi. Im trying to install rrdtool but I get this error:L http://slackware.pastebin.com/m4334a377 [06:47] I have cairo and pango installed [06:53] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [06:54] or doesnt pango and cairo include those files and I have to installed them by hand?> [06:54] hello #slackware [06:57] Kowalczyk: you running a multilib system? [06:57] Kowalczyk: are u using slackbuild? [06:57] nope.. it finds cairo-png.pc file also.. hmmm.. but pkg_config_path is maybe wrong. not that I know where or how to set that [06:57] necropresto: yes [06:58] pseudonymous (~icarus@nat-wireless.itu.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:58] Kowalczyk: 32 / 64? [06:58] Kowalczyk: 13.0? current? [06:59] 32. 13.0 [06:59] not current [07:01] dont have /usr/lib in path. probably that's why?:P [07:02] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.205) joined ##slackware. [07:03] Kowalczyk: let me try here [07:03] ok [07:03] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:04] brb [07:05] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Kowalczyk: rrdtool compiles fine here [07:10] he might need to install the header files or run ldconfig [07:11] it does not here. hmm [07:12] cairo-png.pc is inside cairo package [07:12] probably my fault for not having a full install anyway.. hehe [07:12] aff [07:12] I find cairo-png.pc when I search for it [07:12] Kowalczyk: try 'pkg-config --libs cairo-png' [07:12] ok [07:12] or maybe you need to re-run ./configure [07:13] didnt know about that command Camarade_Tux :d [07:13] http://slackware.pastebin.com/m7ab9df6a [07:13] probably the error?:) [07:14] or [07:14] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Kowalczyk: partial install? [07:14] not a full install no. a minimal one and then I installed the packages I needed :) [07:15] although [07:15] you need all the *proto*.txz packages from x/ [07:15] ok :) [07:15] Hello everyone! I seem to have trouble with finding mmkeys.so Would anyone tell me where can I find this ? Googling for mmkeys.so hasn't been very fruitful... [07:16] /usr/include/X11/Xproto.h [07:16] Axtroz: have u lost your keys? [07:16] are u drunk? [07:16] also, I do not get why it requires xproto [07:16] png, svg... [07:16] actually, forget about that [07:16] No, not rly, i just cant explain in proper english what I'm looking for [07:17] sorry for the crappy explanation I'll try again [07:17] Lafy (Lafy@CPE00226b919fde-CM00222d6c7c95.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [07:17] Axtroz: i understood [07:17] Axtroz: it was a joke [07:17] oh... well it's just stupid me that didn't get it :D [07:18] Axtroz: what are you trying to do? why do you need it? [07:18] so I have to install all proto packages? [07:18] i want to enable exaile's multimedia keys plugin but i can't find mmkeys.so anywhere and googling for it didn't give me half a clue [07:18] xproto only didnt do it [07:18] Kowalczyk: I SAID ALL *proto*.txz PACKAGES FROM X/ [07:18] exailes?? [07:19] =) [07:19] :D [07:19] Axtroz: where did you get exaile from? [07:19] but thanks for the command:) that was nice. the libs stuff. [07:19] http://exaile.org :) [07:19] Axtroz: are u using slackbuilds? [07:20] Nope [07:20] simply compiling everything from source [07:20] Axtroz: "This requires gst-plugins-good, gst-python, and mutagen.". look www.slackbuilds.org [07:20] I got those [07:20] exaile is working fine [07:20] it's just i cant enable the Xkeys plugin, needs mmkeys.so [07:21] Axtroz: well, mmkeys seems to be a python(-gtk) lib [07:21] needed libpthread as well :D [07:21] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [07:21] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Changing host [07:21] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [07:21] thanks Camarade_Tux :) [07:21] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Kowalczyk: well, whenever you get a problem, read the config.log file, it helps a lot [07:22] the trouble is that I dont know where the config.log is when I do slackbuilds?:P maybe me being a noob. I know that but:d [07:22] or it probablty ends up in the directory? [07:23] the rrdtool*/ directory, or. not sure about that one:d [07:23] looks like http://www.sacredchao.net/~piman/software/python.shtml has a python-mmkeys, you might try it but I have no idea if it's good or not [07:23] /tmp/SBo/packagename [07:23] Kowalczyk: next to the configure script [07:24] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:24] ok [07:24] Kowalczyk: slackpkg search libpthread [07:25] The list below shows all packages with name matching "libpthread". [07:25] [ installed ] - libpthread-stubs-0.1-noarch-2 [07:25] dont have slackpkg :d I installed it though [07:25] find path/* [07:25] Kowalczyk: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/21 [07:25] find path/*|grep pthread :d [07:25] try it [07:26] hmm? that wasnt for me :d [07:27] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jaogkbzbhasoncgg) joined ##slackware. [07:29] mohaa (~nome@92.49.73.82) joined ##slackware. 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[08:13] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Quit: gotta go [08:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-87-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:17] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [08:18] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:19] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-135-148.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:20] Nimrod (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [08:20] alice (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:21] how do i use swaret? [08:21] smash your computer with hammer, it'll give the same effect [08:21] hehe [08:22] hahha [08:23] Nimrod: you don't use swaret, swaret uses you. [08:23] Nimrod: that means, don't sue swaret. [08:23] :) if you want something to update yo slackware system, use "slackpkg" . if you want something that resolves deps, try debian [08:23] s/sue/use/ [08:24] ok, i see. I think i would try slackpkg [08:24] Nimrod: you're supposed to be able to figure out the dependencies on your own. It's part of the job of an admin. [08:25] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:26] aha i see now [08:26] or do a full installation , and read SBo REAME files.. [08:26] README* [08:27] much easier then [08:27] i think i would learn to figre out dependencies :P [08:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:28] pseudonymous (~icarus@stud1-75.itu.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Woo for single window mode in CIMP [08:30] *GIMP [08:31] Zordrak: yesh, all those different windows get annoying. [08:32] with apt, you pretty say: "here, install this, and remove all the other stuff I depend on, maybe, because you want to, sure, go ahead" [08:32] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:33] with slackpkg, you say: "Here, install this, and don't touch the rest of my system, dammit! I know what I'm doing." [08:33] Zordrak, yeah, but the release date for gimp is like december or something. [08:34] thumbs, i see. [08:34] thrice`: better than nothing :) [08:34] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:35] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:38] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:39] when they implement single window mode, my gf will have no more excuses to not try gimp. [08:40] I'm not a huge gimp fan, I must admit [08:41] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:41] the gimp should have embedded the toolbox on the left hand of a main window that holds the buffer a long time ago (like most other graphics editing programs - paint, photoshop etc..._) [08:43] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [08:43] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:44] interface and toolkit-wise I prefer krita. Unfortunately it does not work that well for me. (Also a different target audience) [08:45] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.69.144) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:45] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [08:48] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:49] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:09] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [09:10] i just did a fresh install on this box and for some reason my cron jobs are working but there is nothing in /var/log/cron syslog is running and syslog.conf has this line in it cron.* -/var/log/cron so i dont know why its not working [09:10] are they working, or not ? [09:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:11] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:12] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.200.1) joined ##slackware. [09:13] adaptr, yes the cronjobs work [09:13] they just arnt being logged [09:14] oobe, vim /etc/rc.d/rc.M <-- modify crond invocation, it's commented. [09:15] although i found out that Dillon's cron is not very informative. [09:16] most distros use Vixie cron these days. [09:17] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. 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[09:22] another interesting thing is as a test i added touch /tmp/test to my crontab and then ls /tmp showed /tmp/tes so i changed the crontab to touch /tmp/testt and /tmp/test then was created [09:23] hi friends [09:23] I am novato slackware linux user [09:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:24] One question What version Slackware LInux for Pentium MMX I of the 64 RAM [09:24] ?¿ [09:24] please help [09:24] almost any version should be good - just don't try to use KDE or Gnome [09:24] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] dexter, use the non-smp kernel and you will be good. [09:25] oobe, this is weird. i'll check now. [09:25] With 64MB or RAM? dexter use Slackware 11.x ... any more recent version will be quite slow [09:26] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] ok thanks slava_dp modifying rc.M fixed it [09:27] damn, my /var/log/slim.log is 136.3 megabytes! [09:27] slava_dp: simple login manager? [09:27] yeah [09:28] slava_dp: put it in logrotate [09:28] :P [09:28] |novato1| (~kvirc@190.40.250.79) joined ##slackware. [09:28] dexter (~kvirc@190.40.247.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:28] yeah i forgot to add somthing i use all the time to logrotate ended up being 460mg before i added it [09:28] i should. although this is a laptop and logrotate never runs on it, at 4:40 it's always off. [09:29] change logrotate to cron.hourly [09:29] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:29] and i'm too lazy to setup anacron.... [09:29] it still wont rotate them unless the time specified matches [09:29] oobe, that's actually a sound idea. [09:30] ls /etc/cron.* [09:30] /etc/cron.daily: [09:30] certwatch logrotate slocat [09:30] just cp /etc/cron.daily/logrotate to hourly [09:31] careful, slackboy is waiting around the corner. [09:31] lol [09:31] 3 lines is careful [09:32] whats bad is when you accidentally paste hidden text from web pages or lots of empty sends [09:32] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:33] I wonder how many Slackware users there are worldwide [09:34] you will never know [09:34] 12 [09:34] Pat should build in a phone home function so we can get some answers to that question. [09:34] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@213.163.84.215) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Lafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] uhh right. [09:35] no, pat should not do that. [09:35] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@213.163.84.215) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:35] lol, netconfig -> "Should we contact slackware.com now to count this machine?" [09:36] is there an open standard video streaming protocol that includes some sort of public key signing of the data? [09:36] Action: slava_dp 's estimate at the number of slackware users is 42 [09:36] neptun (~neptun@217.117.141.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:36] 43 slava_dp , i jsut installed it [09:37] then why are there 269 people in this channel? [09:37] Lafy: all trolls [09:37] some, like straterra, are windows users [09:37] 42, I just dumped one for another distro [09:37] Lafy, these are all bots, they never speak [09:37] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:37] I'd guess alot of people in here use windows on stuff spook [09:38] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.184.86) joined ##slackware. [09:38] lintuxos (~jason@24-197-129-119.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:38] thrice`: its just my standard jab at straterra, i use windows too. [09:38] lintuxos (~jason@24-197-129-119.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:39] Well, there are roughly about 1 billion computers in the world, and about 1% of that is linux users [09:39] So about 10 million linux users [09:39] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@podcast.faytechcc.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:39] So I'd say that there are well over 100,000 Slackware users in the world [09:39] Arirang, I thought it was more than 1% ? [09:39] thrice`, like what? [09:40] it's all megahard speculations [09:40] I don't know, I thought it was more like 3-5% [09:40] yeah, exactly - who knows [09:40] all that is needed is for some major slackware mirrors to count unique IP address and that should give you a rough estimate [09:40] thrice`, could be, because linux is really popular in places like China and Venezuela [09:40] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.205) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [09:41] Pig_Pen: but who knows how many times someone downloads slackware and installs it for 15 minutes before going back to another distro [09:41] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:41] i did say "rough estimate" [09:42] That commie, Hugo Chavez really likes open source stuff [09:42] or ip address that server a LAN full of PCs, i have two slackware installs, and a debian testing install [09:42] |novato1| (kvirc@190.40.250.79) left ##slackware ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!"). [09:43] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: I'll Be Back [09:43] 1 billion computers in the world? might be a bit off on that figure. [09:43] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:44] i know lots of people that dont own a PC and they dont want a PC and have no interest in owning a PC, they dont care, as long as they have TV and radio and a daily newpaper they are happy [09:44] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.184.86) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:45] Do you live in a retirement home, Pig_Pen? [09:45] lol [09:45] nope, i live in a rural part of Oklahoma, lots of hillbillys here [09:45] any suggestions on how i can get something like RTSP to sign the frames or packets? [09:45] or where i might find the answer [09:45] Pig_Pen, there are hills in OK? [09:46] alienBOB: not sure if you're still fixing things, but except for the first one, the links on http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/its-been-released-kde-sc-4-4-0/ are messed up. [09:46] yup, some of the oldest hills in the north american contenent is in the okla. arkansas, missouri area [09:46] Pig_Pen, yeah, all eroded away [09:47] not_toast (~toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [09:47] If you look close enough, you can imagine that it was a hill at one time [09:47] I don't have any experience with wifi so I want to ask if I can make a ftp server run on a public wifi (like those in malls) [09:47] or they restrict ports [09:47] Some do, some don't. [09:48] i jsut found the best deal on craig list [09:48] http://maine.craigslist.org/sys/1592601250.html [09:48] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [09:48] i loled anyway [09:48] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [09:49] alienBOB: gar0t0 [09:49] alienBOB: --> DropBox Extension Puts One-Click Access to Your DropBox Files in Chrome: http://miud.in/1z8 [09:49] sorry :D [09:49] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [09:50] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] ismael (~sky_1@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) joined ##slackware. [09:51] guys, how do i set my nic to boot on statup? do i have to add onboot=yes to rc.inet1.conf? [09:51] Hi. Can i have common q ? How hard is to install Slackware compare to gentoo ? [09:51] Oh, the installer is a lot easier, IMO. [09:51] In Slackware [09:51] ismael: easier. [09:51] next -> next -> next [09:52] oh [09:52] the hardest part is creating partitions [09:52] i prepared one [09:52] Slackware is cake for installation. (and you will love it more than gentoo) [09:53] i dont love software i love people ^^ [09:53] You will love Patrick Volkerding. [09:53] ismael: slackware is easier to install, while gentoo will be easier to maintain. that's the main difference. [09:54] well slackware certainly installs faster then geentoo [09:54] Hai gar0t0 - what extension? For firefox? [09:54] TheGroove: packages are available now [09:55] imp compiling genkernel 1h on gentoo /o\ [09:55] Blue_Arch86 (~Blue_Arch@podcast.faytechcc.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@podcast.faytechcc.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:56] alienBOB: fro Chrome [09:56] thanks for answer [09:56] alienBOB: ok thanks, links on the blog page still seem to be borked though (but I'm not using them anyway). [09:56] Blue_Arch86 (~Blue_Arch@podcast.faytechcc.edu) left irc: Client Quit [09:56] s [09:56] for* [09:56] ananke, Do you know which package tool does gentoo use? [09:56] LTL2h (~lulu@AToulouse-258-1-98-87.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:56] emerge [09:56] portage [09:56] Word. [09:57] "word" = ? [09:57] 5 min to download slack...i like my connection ^^ [09:57] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@podcast.faytechcc.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:57] "word" = "right" [09:57] "word" = "the bird!" [09:58] ismael: if you are between slack and gentoo think about this [09:58] do you want linux.. or a lame port if not exact copy of freebsd [09:58] ? [09:58] haha :) [09:59] I wonder if Slackware is the most Unix-like distro... [09:59] i have set my inet1.conf to ONBOOT="yes" but still my nic does not come up, can someone advise? [09:59] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:00] I dunno, "Unix-like" isn't a very nice goal. [10:00] If Unix is Solaris, HPUX, etc. [10:00] They're very quirky and inconvenient in daily usage. [10:00] Right. [10:00] gentoo have only 2 options of status [10:00] xover: slackware??? [10:00] 1) compiling [10:00] 2)offline [10:00] xover: it seems something like redhat [10:01] TheGroove: links are fixed, thanks [10:01] asamoah (~caio@190.244.48.8) joined ##slackware. [10:02] xover, slackware does not use onboot= [10:02] hope slackware doesnt breake so easy like gentoo [10:02] xover, if you setup your inet1.conf correctly, your nic will come up. [10:02] how do i get the interface up/ [10:02] slava_dp: what do you mean correctly [10:02] xover: ONBOOT is no slackware config options. if you added it because your nic wont boot, perhaps it's a matter of module loading [10:02] xover, can you get it up manually? [10:03] xover, like, ifconfig eth0 up? [10:03] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.200.1) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:03] ismael: considering that slackware is not a rolling distro, like gentoo, chances of it breaking on its own are smaller [10:04] mayday-jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:04] rolling distros are always getting flat tires [10:05] ananke: i downloaded it im going to test it in virtual box for train [10:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-209.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] yeah but its using eth1 [10:08] maybe that is the issue [10:08] gentoo's stable branch is pretty conservative, I wouldn't expect much problems [10:08] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:08] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:09] sirslacker| (1001@s0823.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:09] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [10:09] oficer (solaris@terror.psychiczny.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:11] xover, did you change your network card recently? [10:11] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-118-253.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:11] xover, if yes, this might affect you: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/12/03/migrating-slackware-to-new-hardware/ [10:12] not_toast (~toast@208.233.36.250) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:13] slackboy: no its a vm [10:13] oficer (solaris@terror.psychiczny.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost Terminal? No [10:13] its working now, udev decixed to use eth1 for the card instead of eth0 [10:13] so to turn a card on or off do i just remove the details in the config file? [10:14] as there is no onboot option [10:14] ? [10:15] that installer is really nice [10:15] LTL2h (~lulu@AToulouse-258-1-98-87.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: - [10:16] xover: just remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [10:16] That file causes your card to use eth1 because it links eth0 to another MAC address [10:17] ismael, you may learn a little more from the gentoo install, but since you've already been through it .. ;) [10:17] it probably because i copied the vm [10:17] thrice`: i dont think ...installing gentoo from stage3 was really easy like installing ubuntu by my mom [10:17] im not so concerned about that, if i want to disable a nic, how do i do that, just comment it out in inet1? [10:18] ismael, yeah, true, but alot of it is thankfully "copy and paste" from their handbook, which is pretty detailed. maybe the kernel is a tricky part if you haven't done it before [10:19] thrice`: yeah but i always used genkernel coz i was too lazy ^^ [10:21] anyone? 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If it is not configured in rc.inet1.conf it will not be brought up [10:28] to turn the card on = /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 start to turn the card off /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 stop [10:28] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:29] to permanantly turn the card off = chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 then it wont work until you chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [10:31] Pig_Pen: that doesnt reall isolate a single card does it [10:31] I will just uncomment out the interface, no issue [10:31] nope [10:31] i cant not go_openoffice pkg i get this error http://pastebin.com/m4c0f2cb1 when i want make it [10:31] yeah, you will have to edit rc.inet1.conf [10:32] i cant not make go_openoffice pkg i get this error http://pastebin.com/m4c0f2cb1 when i want make it [10:32] or maybe look in to wicd in /extra (not sure if it will make things easier for you) [10:34] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [10:36] This requires xulrunner, Archive-Zip, icu4c, apache-ant, jdk from /extra, [10:36] Blue_Slacker86: ^^ [10:36] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Pig_Pen: how i can get them [10:38] in /extra on your slackware cd/dvd or download them [10:38] NOTE: This build needs a few gig in $TMP and the source is about 400 meg [10:38] to download. It also takes hours to compile. This build is still a WIP [10:38] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7CDE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] whow! one more line and i would have gotten the hammer [10:40] Blue_Slacker86: you better start reading the info on those slackbuilds because i am not spoonfeeding anymore noobs! [10:40] technopolic (technopol@95.43.21.177) left ##slackware. [10:41] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:42] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:42] Pig_Pen: OK tnx [10:44] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@podcast.faytechcc.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:48] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Nick change: zecalmoco -> zecafig [10:49] ienh (~ienh@rennes.elikya.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:49] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:51] sirslacker (1001@s0776.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:52] alisonken1home (~alisonken@71.104.224.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:53] TheGroove (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:54] alienBOB, hows the work with kde 4.4? [10:54] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@podcast.faytechcc.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:54] guax: try it and you'll find out [10:55] you mean you have the package yet? [10:56] saw the release note on kde website just now [10:56] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829] [10:57] zux (~zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [10:57] hi anyone here? [10:58] alienBOB, ok, saw your blog post now :) [10:58] i upgraded one of my boxes with latest patches from osusl [10:58] and now ssh doesn't work [10:59] alienBOB: ping [10:59] there was an openssl update, but it shouldn't couse problems rigth? [11:00] rv2733 (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] ssh: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:01] slackpkg upgrade-all; slackpkg install-new; slackpkg new-config [11:01] zux: run 'ldconfig' then 'ldconfig -p | grep crypto' [11:02] libcrypto.so.0 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0 [11:02] libcrypto.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so [11:02] slava_dp, do you mean all the packages, or just the patches? [11:03] zux: are you running 64 bit slackware? [11:03] no [11:03] oh [11:03] yes i am :D [11:03] sorry, my bad [11:03] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] now i get it :) [11:03] lol, another one bites the dust [11:03] yep [11:03] forgot about it [11:04] sirslacker (1001@s0776.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:04] ananke, how did you gues? [11:04] hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) joined ##slackware. [11:05] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:05] zux: magic [11:05] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:06] Holmes, but... how? [11:06] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:06] heh. I accidently upgraded to 32-bit bash the other day. that was fun [11:06] alienBOB, speaking of, any chance to get some fsck binaries on the usbboot.img ? ;) [11:06] Elementary, my dear slava_dp [11:06] that was such a lame movie [11:07] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Quit: ^D [11:10] well, the Basil Rathbone set was pretty good [11:11] thrice`: eh? The installer contains several fsck binaries [11:11] for a package that came preinstalled on my slack installation what would be the most suitable way to remove it ? [11:11] removepkg [11:12] alienBOB, oh, strange - I tried to fsck my jfs partition, and it didn't seem available [11:12] thought about it but wanted to make sure before acting thx ananke [11:12] thrice`: ls /sbin/fsck.* and see where fsck.jfs points to on your desktop [11:12] someone should tell patrick he should include the architecture in /etc/slackware-version [11:13] any news about 4.4 on main tree? [11:13] Not going to be added there guax [11:13] alisonken1home, I'm talking stricly the on the usbboot environment, not my desktop [11:13] i now understand why installed the wrong binaries.... [11:13] alienBOB, never? =P [11:13] Not any time soon [11:13] zux: indeed. seems that issue bites a lot of folks [11:14] after 13.1 or so i beleave [11:14] mugwort13 (~chatzilla@pool-70-22-86-173.balt.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] thrice`: understood - but you might see if the jfs fsck binary (which is jfs_fsck on my desktop) is there [11:14] might just have been a dropped link on the usb drive [11:14] alisonken1home, oh, sure. I didn't have a ton of time to investigate, unfortunately - had to fix it pretty quick, but found a slack 9 disk I think ;) [11:15] :) [11:15] jfs_fsck should be present in the usbboot.img [11:15] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:15] Anyone know if there is a samba4 slackbuild in the works yet? ...might be too soon [11:15] i'm lucky i'm still ssh'd on the box... [11:15] alienBOB, ok, I'll try again. when I booted last night, it complained that it wasn't found right away. I'll try again later [11:17] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.106) joined ##slackware. [11:17] thrice`: if anything is missing which prevents the jfs_fsck from working, let me know [11:17] is uname -a the only way to find out if the box is 64 or 32 bit? [11:18] uname -a can be misleading since you could be running a 32-bit system on a 64-bit computer [11:18] however - if uname -a returns x64 in the name, then there's a good chance it's 64-bit [11:18] well yes, i'm right now intereseted about the running siftware [11:19] x86_64 rather [11:19] software [11:19] alienBOB, sure, of course. I'll try later, since I"m at work yet :> I was too paniced last night to search harder in the environment [11:19] I check if /usr/lib64 is populated [11:20] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [11:20] lscpu exists in newer util-linux, that's useful too [11:20] even better - the slackware32 shouldn't even have a /usr/lib64 [11:21] alisonken1home: on ubuntu boxes, there is a /usr/lib64/fakeroot even on 32bit >< [11:21] I should get a sword and kill anyone who has a ubuntu box [11:21] Camerade_Tux: he didn't (thankfully) ask about *buntu :) [11:21] however, he did just ask a generic question, though [11:21] yup ;-) [11:23] sirslacker (1001@s0776.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@net-93-64-72-154.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [11:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@net-93-64-72-154.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) left irc: Changing host [11:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:27] no, i only installed ubuntu once [11:27] it overwrote my MBR without asking [11:27] while ubuntu may not be favored, I really find it hard to believe that they would ship a /usr/lib64 package on 32-bit. I'm leaning towards pebkac [11:30] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:33] why can't elf handle loading the right version? [11:33] shouldn't all the needed info be in the header? [11:34] Now that you mentioned it, I checked my ubuntu 9.10 machine & my 8.04 machine. Both are 32bit. They only have a /lib dir. [11:36] hey [11:36] how do i set the locale of php? [11:36] shouldn't that be set by the os [11:38] yeah i guess.. [11:38] but php doesn't seem to take that in to account and we have to specify it in the scripts with setlocale() [11:38] ienh (~ienh@ARennes-353-1-34-177.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:38] would be nice to do it globally [11:39] sirslacker (1001@s0776.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:40] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:41] to do it locally, you copy the tz file from /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/localtime [11:43] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.33.139.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:44] oh well time to go home [11:44] laters [11:45] mugwort13 (chatzilla@pool-70-22-86-173.balt.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [11:45] i get this http://pastebin.com/m589747f when i want to build pkg for go_openoffice [11:46] Blue_Slacker86: do you have the jdk installed? [11:46] "This requires xulrunner, Archive-Zip, icu4c, apache-ant, jdk from /extra, [11:46] and seamonkey2 from /patches in Slackware." [11:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@net-93-64-72-154.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. 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[11:53] LukeL_ (nobody@unaffiliated/lukel) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [11:57] hey guys, what fs in your opinion would be good for this set up: a voicemail platform where we'll have something like 13 directories, and under each could be up to 99,999 subdirs (5 digit mailbox numbers), and within each of those mailboxes a random number of wav files (8Khz PCM encoded WAV files, up to 180 seconds long each). [11:57] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.105) joined ##slackware. [11:57] mishehu: XFS [11:57] normally I'd use reiser4 for a set up like that, but I encountered a nasty bug with it in kernels 2.6.31.4+, and edward shishkin can't promise the fix will come anytime soon [11:57] why would the fs matter? [11:57] Skywise: well if the fs doesn't matter, why don't I juse use FAT16? [11:58] Action: mishehu chuckles [11:58] why xfs? heh [11:58] why not? [11:58] if it will fit [11:58] adaptr: I was thinking about XFS, but my experience with it is that it's great for very large files. [11:58] but these aren't large files [11:58] agreed, alot of small files doesn't seem nice for xfs [11:58] Skywise: I guess you don't understand much about filesystems if you think the way you do "if it fits why not" [11:59] why? [11:59] btrfs sounds promising, but it's not ready for produciton use either [11:59] i know what matters and what doesn't [11:59] Skywise: obviously you don't. [11:59] oh [11:59] would you care to illuminate? [11:59] FAT16 is bitmapped, unjournaled. XFS is b-treed, reiser4 is b-treed, dancing tree, wtf else in it. [11:59] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [12:00] mishehu: my suggestion was not predicated upon the size of the files, but the number of directories [12:00] and that matters because? [12:00] wtf would you use reiser4? lol [12:00] adaptr: ok, well I suspect the size of the files might not be an issue, given that 8KHz PCM wav file is going to be larger than 4096 bytes for 1 second of audio [12:00] "I need something for a production machine, so I"m thinking about a FS that's not yet in the kernel" [12:01] thrice`: actually been using reiser4 on maildirs for about 2-3 years now. had very little issues. [12:01] Action: Skywise rolls eyes [12:01] except for two specific kernel revisions, I had no more problems with it than I did any other fs. [12:01] be sure to let me know which mail servers, so I can stay away [12:02] thrice`: they're not for your use anyway [12:02] so don't worry your heart out about the guy who murders his wife [12:02] oh thats relevant as well [12:03] i'm not, but the fact that it's not even close to inclusion in the kernel should be a decent sign. anyway, irrelevant [12:03] Skywise: I still don't see you contributing anything useful to the conversation. you might want to look on wikipedia at fs comparisons. it at least gives you the theory about the differences between each. [12:03] if its so simple, why explain it [12:04] i think the whole thing is just fashionable snobbery [12:04] thrice`: I've read the issues over and over and over again. it's because a) hans is a jerk, and b) many of the kernel devs are equally and oppositely jerks [12:04] o_O [12:04] Action: thrice` bows out [12:05] I'm sure reiser would have had better luck with the kernel team had he been momre diplomatic :-) [12:05] but we can see that's not his strong trait [12:05] mishehu: that is only one half of the story [12:05] thrice`: but xfs might be a good fit then. [12:05] thanks alienBOB for 4.4.0 binaries. time to mirror that. [12:05] mishehu: he might even not be in jail if he wasnt such a difficult person to deal with [12:05] ext2 would be fine [12:05] as would ext3 [12:05] fallen: on the other hand, if my wife was cheating on me.... heh. [12:06] of course I wouldnt' ahve taken a russian e-mail order bride [12:06] but fat16 wouldn'be be fine because it cannot record user permissions [12:06] thrice`: I find ext3 to be a bit on teh slow side compared to b-treed fs's. [12:06] I don't think any would offer a huge advantage for setup [12:06] his requirements however aren't beyond its capabilities [12:06] mishehu: it's hard to say what would and would not happen, but if hans wasnt such a jerk, his wife might not have cheated on him :P [12:06] fallen: indeed that [12:07] mishehu, know what'd be cool? if you tried 2 or 3 VM's, mirrored, and actually took measurable ratings [12:07] as many brilliant people throughout history, he missed social skills hehe [12:07] how much difference could it possibly make except in extreme corner cases [12:08] fallen: heh I had that problem as a kid. [12:08] his conviction was due to his jerkness, rather than evidence [12:08] of course now geeks are in fashion [12:08] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [12:08] mishehu: I agree with thrice, in most workloads any modern filesystem does well. It's the corner cases where they differ [12:08] fallen: a bit of both [12:08] calling the judge presiding your case "dumb" sure didnt help [12:08] IMHO you guys are talking nonsense [12:08] judges are dumb [12:08] fallen: there was evidence and questionable evidence. and his jerkiness didn't install any faith in his claims. [12:09] Skywise: yes, they are, but you dont say it out loud for them [12:09] how i can repair this http://pastebin.com/m560b9257 [12:09] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [12:09] the us supreme court has to be one of the most embarassing institutions in history [12:09] yeah judges don't like it when you don't respect their authoritai :-) [12:09] Blue_Slacker86: redownload that file. [12:09] mishehu: that's what I think. He might have got away if not for his attitude [12:09] not that I want any criminal to get away, but... [12:09] alreadygone: stupid is as stupid does --forrest gump ;) [12:10] thrice`: with the equipment I have at hand, I'd have to do that over file-backed vm's. that in of itself is a performance killer. [12:10] :) [12:10] anybody following the development on btrfs? [12:11] I've not been following it but been hearing that it's supposed to be a pretty well featured fs [12:11] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:11] rv2733 (ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:11] how i can repair this error http://pastebin.com/m1ca460d [12:12] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.33.139.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Blue_Slacker86: you're not paying attention, are you [12:12] Blue_Slacker86: install xulrunner! [12:13] thrice`: but I think I'll go with xfs for the project. [12:13] anake: i want to install go_openoffice but i can not install it i just get error [12:13] Blue_Slacker86: it might be talking about apache's XUL [12:14] maybe it doesn't want to be installed [12:14] mishehu: that's usually a good choice [12:14] there is no XUL [12:14] Blue_Slacker86: install seamonkey-solibs or seamonkey (full) [12:14] Action: ananke formats another 6TB with xfs [12:14] Blue_Slacker86, is xulrunner installed? [12:14] fallen: if seamonkey includes it, wouldn't firefox likely include it too? [12:14] eek [12:14] mishehu: nope [12:14] Action: Skywise would be so afraid to have 6tb of anything [12:15] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [12:15] mishehu: and seamonkey doesn't include it (in the package at least) [12:15] mishehu: firefox puts it under /usr/lib/firefox-X.Y, no? [12:15] I guess you'd have to grep to find out for sure [12:15] i have to say, perc5/6 adapters these days are getting to be quite fast [12:15] ananke: who needs 6TB? send me 2 of these TBs ;-) [12:15] thrice: I get this error http://pastebin.com/m560b9257 when i get install it [12:15] I'm already doing 4 things and I'm not having problems myself :-) [12:16] ananke: been using Areca for my hwraid [12:16] what do you back up 6tb with and how long does it take? [12:16] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@net-93-64-72-154.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [12:16] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@net-93-64-72-154.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) left irc: Changing host [12:16] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Blue_Slacker86, your xulrunner tarball isn't complete - probably a bad download [12:16] well, my bad, there is a libxul in seamonkey and firefox [12:17] thrice: I am downloading it now again [12:17] Camarade_Tux: our users do. i'm already starting to copy ~2.5TB of data onto it [part of 1000 genomes project] [12:17] if only koffice wasn't such a PoS ;) [12:17] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:18] Skywise: we don't back up all of that data. the pieces we need backed up go onto our main tsm backup system. and it's not like 6TB of data changes daily, it's incremental [12:18] yeah, not when you restore it [12:18] thrice`: yeah koffice is only slightly more a PoS than openoffice [12:19] Skywise: not sure what your point is [12:19] i know its not alot of hardware for that space [12:19] and its really not that big a deal [12:19] 6TB? not at all. it's an older md1000. i have ~200TB of storage in various places [12:20] yeah, its just the prospect of backing up/restoring or reconstructing such large volumes [12:20] heck, typical 2U servers we buy, r710s, we usually put 6 1TB sas drives [12:20] ananke: hehe ;-) what is your company doing btw? [12:20] i'm building a cluster now and i wanna do nas i think [12:20] Camarade_Tux: we're a research institute [12:21] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] i see [12:21] you have alot of transient data? [12:22] very much so [12:22] i use raid, but raid isn't backup [12:22] and i don't wanna use tape [12:22] tape is a valid solution for some things [12:23] its too expensive and cumbersome for me [12:23] on a small scale it is. on a large scale it becomes cost efficient [12:24] i used to develop hsm systems, but like the cobbler's children, i can't afford the systems i develop [12:24] yeah [12:25] gay people on our network are using the ip of the gateway... so I just did arp -s =) [12:25] don't you have a dhcp server? [12:25] where "gay" means ? [12:25] snL20: i'm curious to know how you found out their sexuality [12:25] ismael (sky_1@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) left ##slackware. [12:26] gay means happy [12:26] ananke: eh you know what I mean =) [12:26] or an apple osx user [12:26] they're obviously exuberant and so excited they did the wrong thing [12:26] thrice`: "happy", "jolly" [12:26] snL20: no, i don't [12:26] depending on whether it's a good or bad context [12:27] thrice` [12:27] sky: ahah [12:27] ananke: ok... [12:27] "this outage is TERRIFIC!" [12:27] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:27] hi jeev [12:27] heh [12:27] you hear about the C300 from crucial [12:27] its hysterical how young people spend their whole lives slagging each other about being fags or homos or what not [12:27] just because your sister kidna looks like a guy, doesn't make me gay jeev [12:27] yeah, i was wondering how well their innernets would be working like that [12:27] then, you get to college, and discover there are real live gay people all over the place [12:29] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-117.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:29] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.207.116) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:29] mishehu: that's right :D [12:29] thrice`: as long as you're not one of those apple fanbois I don't think you have to worry ;-) [12:30] I'd be surprised if there were many apple fanboys in a channel dedicated to slackware [12:30] i liked apple when apple was cool [12:30] thrice`: you did his sister ? [12:30] :D [12:30] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:30] Skywise: when we were all playing karateka on it? [12:30] i'm still rocking my 65c02 //c [12:30] snL20, my imaginary sister told me he has a 3 cm dingus [12:30] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [12:30] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:30] alvarogmj (~amartinez@200.124.194.190) joined ##slackware. [12:31] jeev: hehe [12:32] i'm wnodering if i should wait for the new C300 from crucial for SSD [12:32] if i was gay, i'd use it as a meaningless epithet constantly. [12:32] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) joined ##slackware. [12:32] ut: then why aren't you using 'cracker' more often? [12:33] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-209.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:33] because cracker isn't funny, and wouldn't make sense very often. [12:33] is 'cracker' really an insult? [12:33] thrice`: is gay really an insult ? [12:34] thrice`: if it's used as an insult, then it is an insult [12:34] ananke, I guess, but if someone actually called me that, I think I'd probably laugh before taking offense [12:34] snL20, I think so, sure [12:34] i dont think gays would mind it coming from a bunch of computer dorks in a chat room [12:34] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] then again, I"m older than 16 years old, so maybe not to you [12:34] thrice`: it didnt originally mean homosexual... [12:35] neither did "faggot" [12:35] faggot means hot coals if I'm not mistaken [12:35] fag means cigarette in some places [12:35] mishehu: yeah... and ? [12:35] its a bundle of sticks [12:35] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [12:35] snL20: just useless random trivia. [12:35] snL20: I'm full of useless random trivia [12:35] snL20: so enlighten us. what exactly does 'gay' in your original sentence meant to represent? [12:36] i think he gets it now [12:36] 18:26 < mishehu> gay means happy [12:37] while we're doing definitions, lets do pedantic and dead horse [12:38] dont hurt thrice's feelings [12:38] you know... i don't think it's great to give someone who doesn't know what "gay" means the least-used definition [12:38] how about cultivation and intolerance [12:38] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] sky ehehe [12:39] its the guy from that 70's show: http://www.foundshit.com/images/chihuahua-toupee.jpg [12:40] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] jeev: actually from an ad you can see in France =) [12:43] you're french!?!?1 [12:43] all this time, you were KGB [12:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay [12:44] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:44] hey what does it say about retard [12:44] retard see: GooseYArd ? :P [12:45] hey thats mean [12:45] ehehe [12:45] =D [12:46] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-60-52.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] jeev: ;-) [12:50] sweet the nouveau dri driver in mesa head works like a charm [12:50] not sure what ill do with it other than run glxgears though [12:52] run the electric sheep screensaver? ;) [12:53] ooh good call [12:53] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [12:55] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:55] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:56] GooseYArd: darkplaces ? [12:56] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:56] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-14-172.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] k [12:57] is that a game? [12:57] this is my workstation, I usually run away from it screaming if i need liesure [12:57] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-209.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] GooseYArd: aah, its a quake engine =) [12:58] but i have time to fuck around with slackpkgs while i wait for things to compile [12:59] since k3b is not working, I had to learn to burn with growisofs in cli :\ [12:59] most likely you would have to compile it on slack so =) [12:59] did anyone here had trouble burning with k3b? [13:00] pupit: yeah, I dont use it [13:01] cli all the way [13:01] linux realy opens my mind if I knew this k3b is crap, I'd learn cli burning long time ago... [13:02] you can still learn it [13:02] I think k3b is "almost done." they just release the first beta last week I think [13:02] and then you'll understand how the gui, which is really just a front end for the cli, works [13:02] its all good to know [13:02] yeah, right now im burning in cli.. hope it will finish it just right... [13:02] Skywise: exactly [13:03] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:03] I do burning both in the cli and in k3b [13:04] deepnds on my mood [13:04] I really like how Patrick explains things in all his howtos [13:05] eh pat has howtos now ? :D [13:05] as used howto for making iso-s for slackware cd-s [13:05] snL20: my english :) [13:05] alienbob has a fantastic slackware iso creating tool [13:05] howto's snL20? [13:06] pupit: no, I just mean I dont remember seeing any howto's by pat just the email you get to root =) [13:06] GooseYArd: im not yet ready for tools :) im in howto-reading-learning mode :) [13:06] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:06] mirror-slackware-current.sh [13:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [13:07] GooseYArd: I'll check it, thanks :) [13:07] pupit: last time I checked the howto's were just a collection from tldp.org [13:08] don't hammer the newb [13:08] snL20: I only used the logic from this "howt/readme" "http://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/slackware/slackware-13.0/isolinux/README.TXT" to burn my cd... [13:08] patrick puts slackware together, but he doesn't write everything [13:08] Acquiesce (~si@212.183.140.20) joined ##slackware. [13:10] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:11] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Acquiesce (~si@212.183.140.20) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:14] successfully burned. [13:14] snL20: "HOWTOs" != Linux-HOWTOs :P [13:15] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [13:15] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:16] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. 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[13:51] depends on how much you need the job to pay the bills [13:52] or look for a better job where you don't get your life sucked dry and/or allows you project time in either professional or personal time [13:52] Action: thrice` is pretty key on the 40-hour work week [13:52] Action: alisonken1home has mandatory o/t but also has time at work for the little joys in life :) [13:53] alisonken1home: sounds nice [13:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:57] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:58] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@a85-139-11-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: I'll Be Back [14:02] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.24.232) joined ##slackware. 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[14:38] it seems its actually a word [14:39] greetings comrads [14:39] hey The-Croupier :) [14:39] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [14:39] how are you... [14:40] sahk0: how do you say "baklavadakia" in english...? :( [14:40] i dont even know what that is :P [14:41] isnt baklava world wide known like souvlaki? [14:41] shut up really?! [14:41] or was it musaka? [14:41] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue_Slac@podcast.faytechcc.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:41] Baklava is pastry [14:41] Souvlaki is meat on a stick, commonly known as shish kebab :) [14:41] akSeya (~bd0b4142@gateway/web/freenode/x-nhljnlxezwscwrsx) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Mousaka is booze. [14:42] hi there!! [14:42] kerfuffle: n : a disorderly outburst or tumult; "they were amazed by the furious disturbance they had caused" [14:42] i think most people understand what baklava is [14:42] BP{k}: yeah sounds neat, i gonna adopt it :) [14:42] TheGroove: booze? [14:42] BP{k}: ah - I thought it had an L in it [14:43] Alcoholic [14:43] Oh [14:43] Nope I mixed that up. [14:43] TheGroove: what you on about [14:43] no it is not. [14:43] what you mixed that up with i wonder [14:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka [14:44] TheGroove: Metaxa probably. [14:44] greek mothers make the best moussaka ever ;) [14:44] The-Croupier: ^^ [14:44] have anyone of you guys ever heard about FOG (Free Open-source Ghost)? [14:44] BP{k}: yeah... i hope he doesnt say ouzo or something [14:44] BP{k}: thats what i was waiting for ;) [14:44] I mixed it up with some spurious node in my brain, I guess. [14:45] at least you got some of those.. some have nothing in it ;) [14:45] sahk0: I wonder what he means by today's outburst. It's not like we're not "complaining" for weeks about it [14:46] pprkut: what are you complaining about..??? do you care to share? [14:46] pprkut: i just thought id ask because i am not familiar the way KDE development works. that happened where? their bugzilla? irc? mailing list? [14:46] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/02/go-with-flow.html [14:46] pprkut: seems a bit like .. "oh it just slackware being awkward" from his point of view...." [14:47] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:47] their devel lists are specifically for KDE developers and not of much help for an outsider trying to take a peak [14:47] maybe a lot of places [14:48] but wouldn't know of any specific place that would fit the description of "sudden outburst" [14:48] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [14:48] BP{k}: mmm, I don't know. iirc he used Slackware once, and he also blogged about Slackware switching to kde4 [14:48] Ok, so the desktop in KDE is now "social". Now how about that damn printer config dialog? [14:50] well, kdenews.org is down. So I cannot check there in the comments :/ [14:53] akSeya (~bd0b4142@gateway/web/freenode/x-nhljnlxezwscwrsx) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:57] hmm even the forum seems down [14:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:59] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:59] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7CDE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:01] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [15:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:07] why is it that my screen goes and stay blank at the udev section of booting up? i tried nomodeset in the kernel line of grub, but i think that makes me not able to use X [15:08] what chipset? [15:08] video card? old geforce3 nvidia [15:09] proprietary driver? [15:09] nouveau driver [15:09] kms? [15:09] i keep seeing that pop up, but i don't know what it means or how to mess with it [15:10] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [15:10] im guessing it's disabled, with the nomodeset option [15:10] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:10] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:10] I have actually no idea about kms [15:11] always run the binary driver [15:11] i didn't have trouble with the nouveau driver on my other comp [15:11] same chipset? [15:11] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:11] slightly newer card [15:13] does it work with something else than nouveau? [15:13] i saw something that said it might be a kernel option/patch/bug, but i couldn't find anything about a workaround besides the nomodeset thing [15:13] the driver would stop the boot process at Udev? [15:13] well, udev loads kernel modules [15:14] black screen sounds highly suspicious [15:14] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [15:14] 1 + 1 = kms [15:14] what's another driver for nvidia stuff? i heard xf86-video-nv was stale [15:14] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:14] which kernel are you on King_Ozzy ? [15:15] latest 2.6.32 [15:15] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] what does "uname -a" show? [15:15] King_Ozzy: the legacy binary driver, or nv, or vesa [15:16] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.16.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:16] wulfmax (~wulfmax@pool-72-66-29-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] if i go to try a different driver, should i do 'Xorg -configure' again? [15:17] thrice`: is that you asking about uname?!!!!!! [15:17] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:17] King_Ozzy, please run "uname -a" [15:17] The-Croupier, hmm? [15:18] one sec, i started pacman for openoffice right as you first said it XD [15:18] as I thought, go bug the arch linux guys, we don't care about you ;) [15:18] but i thought slackers were my friends :-( [15:19] (10:15:38 PM) thrice`: what does "uname -a" show? <-- this was very confusing...:( [15:19] it is? [15:19] King_Ozzy, you thought wrong [15:19] thrice`: i thought you knew what it does...;) [15:19] The-Croupier, I was asking King_Ozzy, because I suspected he wasn't on slackware :) [15:20] Action: King_Ozzy runs off crying [15:20] ufff... thank god.. ;) [15:20] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:20] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:21] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:21] The-Croupier: loool [15:21] Action: King_Ozzy lurks in the shadows, waiting for pacman to hurry up [15:21] btw, <3 slackers [15:22] nice try [15:22] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [15:22] ech (~meow@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [15:23] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.185) joined ##slackware. [15:24] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:26] now... we dont have to be quiet cos there are no noobs in the channel ;) [15:26] Action: The-Croupier hates quietness :( [15:26] haha [15:26] Action: fire|bird starts pounding on some drums to break the silence. [15:26] Action: King_Ozzy hates carnies [15:28] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC311F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:28] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.24.232) joined ##slackware. [15:28] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-221-201.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ##slackware-offtopic =) [15:28] fire|bird: you used to pound on noobs heads when i first started... what happened... [15:28] ;) [15:28] rhaha [15:28] bah, s/rhaha/haha/ [15:29] Camarade_Tux: why do you have to always ruin the fun :p [15:29] Camarade_Tux: it changed? [15:29] ;) [15:29] Camarade_Tux: Was about to mention that myself. ;) [15:29] lf4: yes [15:29] Haha I was wondering why no one ever went in the old one. :/ [15:29] The-Croupier: just mentionning it btw: we kick-ban noobs so we can always be noisy =) [15:30] actually eviljames told us we'd get one dollar for each new connectee :-) [15:30] Camarade_Tux: or we silence them so they can't speak. :) [15:30] What are some good light weight browsers available for Slackware? Recently, my Firefox has been crashing a little bit more frequently or freezes. [15:30] Camarade_Tux: Sure, but you'll have to come to Canada to collect. [15:31] Camarade_Tux: At your own expense, no plane tickets included with ##slackware-offtopic promotion. [15:31] canada is that a country ? [15:31] eviljames: ='( [15:31] kleanchap: seamonkey, konqueror, links, lynx [15:31] kleanchap: Try midori. [15:31] Camarade_Tux: nice job... damn.. i have been on and off these days... i missed all the fun ;) [15:32] what is the score? who is winning ;) [15:32] eviljames: or when you come to France to drink wine, eat bread and cheese =) [15:32] Thnx! [15:32] alvarogmj (~amartinez@200.124.194.190) joined ##slackware. [15:32] I will check them out. [15:32] DralaFi (~dralafi@host86-167-118-9.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Camarade_Tux: oh, of course! That will probably be sooner than you coming to Van :P [15:32] unfortunately, we're stuck with a very old webkit-gtk for midori on slackware =/ [15:33] eviljames: yep, probably ;-) [15:39] doomey (~doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. 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[15:51] no, we just miss a couple items [15:52] uname -a: "Linux hostname 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 29 08:50:05 UTC 2010 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux" [15:52] like, for example, the font installer [15:52] King_Ozzy, no need, you already proved my point that you're not on slackware. this voids your warranty [15:52] I don't really care enough about typography to bother with changing fonts.. so I'm not worried about that. [15:52] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] you gonna help me or just point and laugh? [15:53] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Maybe a little of both. [15:54] The real question is, why ask about arch in this channel? [15:54] we are helping you, since you are running arch we are pointing you in the right direction = either switch to slackware or get help for arch in arch's irc channel or forum [15:54] cuz arch isn't helping me [15:54] I mean, it's not like people here proclaim to be expert (or even claim to support) arch. [15:54] King_Ozzy, ok, so: you're not on slackware, you're using a different kernel than slack, a different X.org version, a driver that isn't in slackware, and a different boot loader than slackware [15:54] you can just say you don't know, you don't have to be jerky [15:56] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Alternatively: you could ask in the correct forum. [15:56] as i said, nada there [15:56] obviously, if i'm coming to other forums [15:57] Don't you think it seems odd to expect an answer? [15:58] shot in the dark i guess [15:58] anyone know this problem? "Bios device code 0x81 is being used by two disks " [15:58] running lilo [15:58] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [15:58] I dont have raid on this machine [15:58] i don't exactly expect an answer, but just talking here in case someone could possibly know an answer [15:59] gar0t0: Yep. [15:59] deadlock (~no_uid@unaffiliated/deadlock) left irc: Quit: Faculdade [15:59] gar0t0: In this case, you have some boot-as options set in lilo.conf [15:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.68.134.228) joined ##slackware. [15:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.68.134.228) left irc: Changing host [15:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:59] gar0t0: I think it's boot as... sec. [15:59] Yep. according to man page for lilo.conf anyhow. pastebin lilo.conf if it is unclear. [16:00] King_Ozzy: there's application specific channels for that, or #linux [16:01] eviljames: hmmm [16:01] alvarogmj (amartinez@200.124.194.190) left ##slackware. [16:01] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [16:01] ok i'll try there too [16:02] eviljames: http://pastebin.ca/1791839 <-- I set the options disk an bios now [16:02] gar0t0: was it different than this before? Or do you have an sdb already connected to the board? [16:02] or is 0x81 perhaps being taken up by an IDE slave? [16:03] eviljames: the master disk is dead, and I get the slave disk and I need to run lilo [16:05] gar0t0: according to the man page, "bios=" is obsolete.. [16:05] they may have more useful info in there. man lilo.conf [16:06] eviljames: I'm reading the lilo's manpage!! Thank you [16:06] :) [16:07] jd (jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left ##slackware ("©"). [16:07] gar0t0: check man lilo AND man lilo.conf (they will have different information) [16:09] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. 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[16:36] Absolutely fine [16:37] Arirang (~koolaid@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:37] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:37] I need to go [16:37] cya ppl [16:37] :) [16:38] eviljames: thank you for your help [16:38] see ya gar0t0 [16:38] Buhbye gar0t0 [16:38] fire|bird: :) [16:38] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: rah [16:38] gar0t0: np dude [16:38] bah, fsck off then! [16:38] :P [16:38] lol [16:38] so did anyone compile mplayerplug-in these days [16:38] and succeed [16:39] Never had much success with that. [16:39] Though I guess mplayer having vdpau support, it's definitely worth a try if it can do Youtube. [16:40] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:40] g'day [16:40] hey NyteOwl [16:41] hi fire|bird [16:41] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[17:53] Action: NyteOwl offers green grapes around [17:54] Opera Unite is scary. you can block its incoming port at the firewall, and it just makes its own connection to Opera proxy servers and keeps on runnin. [17:55] I never could sing [17:55] that should be allowed by your firewall since its a connection related to an outgoing connection [17:56] I took the money my parents gave me for singing lessons and bought nintendo games instead [17:56] yeah. i want a method to make Unite available only to the local network behind the nat router, but dunno how [17:57] person (ed@92.18.68.52) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:57] mohaa (~nome@92.49.76.89) joined ##slackware. [17:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MYsii4DZY [17:58] llo o/ [17:59] don't you have anything better to do than waste your life on youtube? :-) [17:59] nooper: iirc, there's a setting for that in Opera Unite. [17:59] OT: anyone know where I can get a Microflame oxy-butane torch? [18:00] mishehu: mind ur bidness [18:00] Pig_Pen: you have an interesting taste in music [18:00] mostly because its way before my time but interesting nonetheless [18:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Action: NyteOwl currently listening to VanHalen [18:02] and now The Eagles [18:02] i was listening to them earlier [18:02] hotel california to be precise [18:03] fire|bird: There is an option "Allow my applications to be visible inside the local network", but after checking that, hosts outside the network can still see my Unite [18:03] you might have to stop and start it for that change to take effect [18:03] and you can tell with netstat -l what its listening to [18:04] did restart. and its not listening. but it is maintaining a constant connection to p12-09.opera.com [18:05] well you should check the documentation [18:05] i don't know anything about it specifically [18:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:06] Pig_Pen: bidness? is there an auction going on here? [18:06] nooper: What about unchecking "Allow my applications to be visible on Opera Unite Web pages" ? [18:06] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:08] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:08] still available inside and outside the lan :( [18:10] you're gonna have to go to #opera or some place that knows anything about it [18:11] roger [18:11] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [18:15] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.24.232) joined ##slackware. [18:23] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:24] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434172.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:26] TheTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:27] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.33.217) joined ##slackware. [18:28] i dont know who's higher on the stupid chain programmers or end users [18:28] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] depends, which are you? [18:29] thrice`: neither [18:29] marketing agents [18:30] depends on the individual, i am sure there are both brilliant programmer and stupid programmers, same with end users [18:30] we have some bitchy ass programmers that have convinced management they need root access [18:30] Yes! they do still make the microflame torch kit. Now if they'll ship to Canada ... [18:30] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:30] and the boxes end up broken and more banged up then a 50cent prostitute [18:31] Warning: Trash Folder has reached mx size, plz clean manually... how do I do this? [18:31] seems to me like an easy opportunity to discredit those idiots [18:31] technopolic (~technopol@95.43.24.232) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:31] The_Apprentice, are you using KDE ? [18:31] yea [18:31] I usually just hold it over the wastepaper basket and shake :) [18:32] go to the k-start menu button thingymagig -> computer -> trash [18:32] You can delete what you're sure you want removed from the trash, and leave what you might want back. [18:33] SlashQuit: The folder only has 3 folders which are no big at all... why i'm I getting this msg? [18:35] apprently the Trash folder is Size 0 b [18:35] thats what it says on the right hand side [18:35] maybe your low on diskspace overall [18:36] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.49.22.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:36] I have suffucient disk space [18:36] i'm compiling pulseaudio using sbopkg...i'm getting this error undefined reference to `lt__PROGRAM__LTX_preloaded_symbols' [18:37] anyone? [18:38] crashdata: have you googled for an answer ? [18:38] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: gyroscope [18:38] crashdata, which version of pulse audio? [18:38] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:38] version 0.9.10 [18:39] this all started with virtualbox pulseaudio just stop working. [18:39] TheTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:39] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:39] someone suggested to reinstall/install pulseaudio [18:39] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.49.22.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:41] cant find answer on google [18:41] if someone suggested you jump off a bridge would you do it? [18:41] depending on the context, yes [18:42] depends how high is the bridge :) [18:42] well i'm stuck and i thought it was the best solution [18:42] i have tried others and this is the last option [18:42] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] it was working before... [18:43] it just stop.... [18:45] i guess the question i should be asking...my pulse audio stopped working on my virtual box.....anyone has any idea on how to solve this? [18:45] ardya (ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [18:46] i have had sound working just fine with virtualbox without pulse, just plain old alsa [18:46] mine only work with pulse for some reason [18:46] but hten after a while it just stop working... [18:47] vhann_ (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:47] i tried null, oss and alsa [18:47] nothing [18:47] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [18:48] when i try to play a sound it wont even play the file at all..... [18:48] slackware is the guest OS? [18:49] it has been suggested that its not the virtual box its the pulse audio itself [18:49] yes [18:49] slackware is the guest OS [18:49] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [18:49] your doing it bassawkwards, you should install slackware on the bare metal and run windows as a guest OS [18:49] is anyone here aware as to why the SBo for virtualbox says that it won't build on x86_64 systems? [18:50] can someone please for the life of fakegod tell me why my pixels keep trying to dance, and my screen goes dark then light again :< [18:50] I would not be surprised.. I have found PulseAudio.. problematic [18:50] i'm on slack 13.0 [18:50] installed virtual box inside virtual box is windows 7 [18:51] took my gfx card completely apart to fix it, found a ton of white electrical powder/sludge in it, cleaned it all up real nicelike, and it's still actin up [18:51] zaltekk: it needs mutilib, iirc [18:51] +l [18:51] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] i'm on x86_64 multilib [18:51] greetings and salutations [18:51] Is there a way to get sshd to allow connecting from any computer on a selected user but only allow pubkey authentication for other users? [18:52] epoch: its the smoke factor, once that smoke escapes from a piece of hardware it is hard to put it back in [18:52] epoch, that white electrical stuff exists for a reason [18:52] uhh [18:52] it's electrical dust... [18:52] burnt up molecules of whatever is floating around in the air [18:52] white greasy paste? that is thermal paste [18:52] now that we cleared that can anyone suggest something helpfull? [18:52] happens to pilot lights on stoves too [18:52] not if its white. [18:53] look in your stove, youll see the same white powder [18:53] :< [18:53] some thermal paste is white [18:53] i dont doubt that [18:53] some is grey [18:53] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:53] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [18:53] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [18:53] but this stuff wasnt evenly spread on [18:53] chunky-style white powder filth [18:53] my pixels are like...shifting [18:53] it's so weird [18:53] jailbox: the virtualbox website says that it doesn't support having a 64bit kernel and 32bit packages [18:53] dusty white stuff? could be just some failed component puked its gutts before it died [18:53] it was happening BEFORE i removed the white crud [18:54] go buy a new video card [18:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:54] a capacitor blew up [18:55] could be a cap. but electrolytic capacitors have metal foil and wax paper rolled up with a little oil in it, usually when a cap fails it leaves a waxy oily stain [18:56] this is gay...no one answer any of my question lolz... just random useless comment :) [18:57] gay? [18:57] it has gender, and sexual orientation? [18:57] very [18:57] yes.. [18:57] crashdata: At the same time, nobody has the duty of helping you [18:57] i know just frustrated :) I didnt say anyone has... [18:58] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:58] Ok [18:58] y comment...if u cant help yknow... [18:58] crashdata: then why are you whining? [18:58] because they are motivated to entertain themselves [18:59] andarius: is right :) [18:59] :P...Pig_pen kinda piss me off with all the question [18:59] Action: andarius comes here for the same reason :) [18:59] crashdata, maybe run "ldconfig" before compiling [19:00] thanks :) [19:01] what did you change to your setup to cause the sound to not work? [19:01] crashdata: you're not the center of the universe, everybody does not have to stop what they are doing when you ask [19:01] gay? of course this is a happy channel :D [19:01] crudo|house (~kayaman@189.70.0.57) joined ##slackware. [19:02] crudo (~kayaman@189.70.103.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:02] Pig_Pen, that is true soo why make stupid comment...instead of wasting other people time..just mind ur own business [19:03] if u cant help dont say anything... [19:03] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-14-172.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:03] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:03] tank-man, no i didnt... [19:03] i was not even talking to you until you mentioned my nick, i was talking with epoch about his failed video card [19:04] ahhhh scroll back [19:04] way back [19:04] fuck you crashdata, you scroll back [19:04] my pixels are dancing like mario hills :( [19:04] hahah you presume to tell otghers, in a place you have no control, when and what they can say? [19:04] it's so odd. [19:04] someone suggested to reinstall/install pulseaudio [19:04] * john_dee (~id@95-29-144-151.broadband.corbina.ru) has joined ##slackware [19:04] * lewnidas_ has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:04] Channel flood from crashdata -- kicking [19:04] cant find answer on google [19:04] if someone suggested you jump off a bridge would you do it? [19:04] crashdata kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:04] lol [19:04] i wonder if it's to do with my monitor... [19:05] Action: epoch takes it apart [19:05] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] more likely your video card [19:05] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:05] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [19:06] epoch: if you need an AGP video card you can still find them online at various places, newegg has them [19:06] wow! you can still buy 4MB full parity SIMMs [19:07] NyteOwl: legacy prices I am sure [19:07] $8. I can remember when those were $100 [19:07] i do need a new gfx card...ive been waiting for a good one to hit the shellshocker page [19:07] is anyone here running a VM on slackware64-13.0? [19:07] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:09] andarius: same palce I bouth my K6-II+ from a few years ago. Cost em $50 - current price is $139 :) [19:09] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-254-084.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:09] zaltekk, i'm using virtualbox on x64 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [19:10] grazymax (~grazymax@host184-27-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:10] crashdata: are you using the open-source edition? [19:11] zaltekk, not sure if virtualbox is opensource but that's what i'm using... [19:11] there are two version of virtualbox [19:12] go to that link..thats where i got it [19:12] hmm. but that isn't a package, which is why i was wanting to use the SBo script [19:12] crashdata: I googled. I learned that your problem has to do with libtool [19:12] andarius: they even have a dual PentiumPro mobo for $100 [19:13] foobarz, thanks [19:13] Ill sell youone for 25$ plus shipping :P [19:13] With CPUs :o [19:13] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:13] heh they want $10 for PP 200 w/fan. clean pulls [19:13] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [19:13] pupit (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Changing host [19:13] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [19:14] I have enough old hardware :) [19:14] me too [19:14] Though I confess Having one of the last little Sun boxes might be fun [19:15] or a Cobalt Qube3 [19:15] zaltekk, i think it is opensource the one i'm using... [19:16] not if you installed the binaries that are on the page you linked [19:17] crashdata: something you got to run autoreconf [19:17] gm152_ (~gm@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:19] k [19:19] surgeon_ (~xorsurgeo@S0106002719c8b3cd.cn.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] thanks foobarz , good to know :) [19:20] gm152 (~gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:23] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.138) joined ##slackware. [19:25] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:26] :> [19:26] an Atom based server ... Interesting http://www.raqport.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=ATOM1&Category_Code=TSWTRG3 [19:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [19:29] NyteOwl: those are actualy becomine common these days. at least the sale of them [19:31] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:32] hmm. it seems that virtualbox-ose only needs the 32bit development environment if you want to build the guest additions for 32bit guests [19:32] but the configure script fails regardless of whether or not you want to build the additions [19:34] andarius: I'm not sure the AATOm would be up to too much heavy use in a hosting environment [19:34] then again ... [19:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:35] anything hard core on the CPU, no. but light things like file servers, home servers and such they work well. [19:35] I have one for my firewall. Atom 330. Dual core with HT. works like a champ [19:36] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.105) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:36] I dont understand what Atom is [19:36] is it like Pentium? [19:36] foobarz: it's a low power CPU from Intel [19:36] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] http://www.intel.com/products/processor/atom/index.htm [19:36] is there Asus mainboards for Atom cpus? [19:37] common in netbooks [19:37] foobarz: used in many netbooks [19:37] trying to add an existing user to the group netdev .... whats the qucikest way to do this? [19:37] gpasswd [19:37] netbooks, low power applications, stuff like that [19:37] hpasswd :o [19:37] ipasswd... [19:37] jpasswd [19:37] usermod -a -G netdev username does not recognise "-a" [19:37] andarius: I want to build a new firewall/gateway machine. Never though of using Atom but it is an option [19:38] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] useradd -G groupname username [19:38] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [19:38] NyteOwl: they are very good for it [19:38] tried that it says the user exists [19:38] but the user is not added to the group netdev [19:39] you will fsck up your groups with useradd if you are not careful [19:39] usermod -G group login [19:39] ah thats better [19:39] thanks [19:39] NyteOwl: there is a jetway model that you can add a daughter card onto. 4 gig nics for like 160$ or so [19:39] andarius: can you use a standard distro for the ATom, or do you have to use a specialm kernel? [19:39] standard [19:39] Atom procs are x86 [19:40] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:40] though for my firewall I run endian community [19:40] afaik not x86_64... [19:40] sounds interesting - I'll have to look into that now [19:40] standard linux [19:40] you can get arms for servers too [19:40] damn you - I'm going tom end up spending more money! [19:40] :0 [19:40] on my atom I have had slackware, endian and a few others [19:40] i wanted to get a sheevaplug, but i need 2 ethernet ports [19:41] NyteOwl: one of these --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153128 [19:41] I wonder how OBSD will work [19:41] and one of these --> http://www.mini-box.com/VERSA-3-x-Gigabit-LAN-Port-Daughterboard;jsessionid=0a010c441f437f139fd6e4034884aa3291ce3aa11b52.e3eTaxaQbxmTe34Pa38Ta38LbN50 [19:41] anything that will run on an x86 will run on these pretty much [19:42] The_Apprentice (~The_Appre@cpc2-chwo1-0-0-cust831.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:44] that little board with cpu is only $70. Can I play 1080p H.264 on that Atom thing? [19:44] I would guess no [19:45] if you want to do HD with an atom find one with Nvidia ion [19:45] probably doesn't have the video horsepower [19:45] nope [19:45] trying to configure adobe flash, with mozilla, downloaded the tar ball, extracted it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins (restarted firefox - no dice) *slack13 64b [19:46] ArtyG (~kvirc@c-76-104-236-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN [19:47] oh, wrong channel [19:47] Action: andarius runs for cover !! :o [19:47] Can Slackware do an internet install, just downloading the needed packages, by chance? [19:47] yes ArtyG. [19:47] Asus has one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131408&cm_re=Atom_Nvidia_Ion-_-13-131-408-_-Product [19:47] I dont want to die :( [19:47] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Spiffy. Stupid server lacks a DVD drive. [19:47] I assume I can just use the first CD to do it. [19:47] ArtyG, boot pxe and pick network install i think [19:47] yep [19:48] that is designed for local network [19:48] you can install a server with only CD1, or via USB [19:48] what is ? [19:48] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:48] andarius, he wants to boot to CD1 and do a net install which is completely possible [19:48] the net install. it is not designed to be done over the internet [19:48] CygnusX1 (~CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:48] it sure as hell worked for me 400 times [19:48] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [19:48] I'm not sure if the target system can even boot from USB. [19:48] I did not say it wouldnt work. I said it is not designed for internet [19:48] :> [19:49] if it is a server, cd1 is all you need :P [19:49] how is it not designed for internet though, i mean yea if it fails with one thing you're scr00ed.. but. [19:49] well, all I needed [19:49] When I say server, I mean the system type, not it's intended use...Just for clarity. [19:49] yes, screwed and have to start over. save bandwidth and pull it to a local storage point [19:49] andarius, bandwidth is free nowadays :D [19:50] yes, but time is not. and repeating an install because something boloed over internet? waste of time [19:50] DralaFi (~dralafi@host86-167-118-9.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:50] andarius: MSI make an Atom board with 2 ports on board [19:50] time is free if you know how to use it [19:50] install from CD1, slackpkg ftw !! [19:50] i want a tiny system with 3+ NIC [19:50] NyteOwl: yes [19:50] yea you can slackpkg i guess [19:50] My time is fairly worthless. [19:50] but the jetway takes an addon board for a total of up to 4 gig nics [19:50] http://www.mini-box.com/MSI-IM-945GSE-Mini-ITX-Motherboard [19:51] pricier though [19:51] link [19:51] yes, but 4 gig nics in the same footprint, including hieght [19:51] Wonder how Slack 13 runs on a Pentium 3 system. [19:51] ArtyG, so is andarius but he wont admit it :D [19:51] no no, I am worthless [19:51] to you :P [19:51] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:51] ArtyG: should be fine [19:52] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:52] It's a sooper-top-of-the-line P3 system, hahah. [19:52] NyteOwl: why go that high? get an intel board for 75$ and add a low profile nic unless you need more than two ports [19:52] andarius, im too lazy. link me to that [19:52] no :P [19:52] bastardo [19:52] I am too lazy to link it :P [19:53] Zoom, downloading Slack 13 at 1.5MB/s. Woop. [19:53] damnit, i wish i had my SSD in my desktop [19:53] i think im gonna hold out for the crucial [19:53] jeev: http://www.mini-box.com/NC92-Intel-N330 [19:53] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [19:53] plus :: http://www.mini-box.com/VERSA-3-x-Gigabit-LAN-Port-Daughterboard [19:53] = firewall win [19:53] looks like it'll cost 3k [19:54] Wonder if you can turn on software link aggregation with those 3 NICs [19:54] looks like hacking the configure script lets it build fine [19:55] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:56] andarius, with psu, enclosur and shit it's like 300 bux [19:56] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:56] and ? [19:56] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:56] i dont know [19:56] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:57] Haha, they have Via C7 boards. Pretty slow, bro. [19:57] gm152_ (~gm@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:57] compared to using an old system, it would save you enough on electric to pay for itself in the first year and be more powerful [19:57] gm152 (~gm@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] I should get that Atom Nvidia Ion thing, and 2 500GB disks, and a cheap case, maybe not bad [19:58] cheap low power file server :) [19:58] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [19:58] those little n330 machines are great [19:58] it would be my rig [19:58] still need a CF card too eh [19:59] I could play quake(?) and video [19:59] jeev: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119015&Tpk=foxconn%20r30 [19:59] i would need 3+ nic [20:00] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] mattlafy (Lafy@CPE00226b919fde-CM00222d6c7c95.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] then the jetway is your best bet [20:00] are they any good? [20:01] i was looking at their mitx mbs, but hadn't heard of them [20:02] I have an intel atom 330 and like it a lot. only read about the jetways, but the reviews are good so far [20:03] jetway have been making ITX typ motherboards for quite a while now [20:03] http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/embedded-device-servers/xport-pro.html [20:03] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.15.20.164) joined ##slackware. [20:04] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.52.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:04] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:04] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [20:04] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [20:05] surgeon_ (~xorsurgeo@S0106002719c8b3cd.cn.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:06] I'm off. have a good evening folks [20:06] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [20:06] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:07] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.129.113) joined ##slackware. [20:07] pseudonymous (~icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [20:08] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@207.81.93.133) joined ##slackware. [20:15] Anyone remember where it is that one can suggest changes for the next slackware release ? [20:16] /dev/null [20:17] there's a thread going on the slackware forum at linuxquestions [20:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [20:17] ardya: very funny ;) [20:22] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:22] pseudonymous: Juhl? [20:23] Never mind; that means "no" :) [20:23] pseudonymous: and what would you like to suggest? [20:23] rworkman: probably ^^ (btw, my one suggestion is actually to just enable multilib out of the box) [20:23] Setting up slackware, this brings back memories. [20:25] Hmm, what FTP/HTTP server should I point it at for net installing? I'm too lazy to download the stuff and make my own local FTP [20:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:26] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:28] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [20:28] ArtyG, you're in washington? try usc. [20:28] sometimes i find it a little outdated but it's cool, just slackpkg after using tds or osululsdususud or whatever it is [20:30] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:31] rworkman: if I had the audacity to go ahead and build your multilib packages from source. How bad would it be if I somehow screwed up the glibc install ? Would it be immediately apparent ? (I'm guessing yes :/) [20:32] Arg, the stupid part of having 2 network interfaces is that I don't know which one Linux had drivers for and is therefore eth0. [20:33] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ¬ [20:33] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [20:33] ArtyG: don't you get some sort of "link up" message in dmesg ? [20:33] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Hmm, should've checked that, I guess. [20:33] I'm brainless at the moment. [20:33] in Slack 13 what's the best way to go about getting usb/flash drives automounting in Xfce? [20:34] Is vsupdfstab the best way? [20:35] slack doesnt automount? [20:35] Well.. KDE does. [20:35] not Xfce [20:36] yes, xfce can [20:36] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:36] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] rhys (~quassel@c-67-175-246-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] ahhh I see now it can [20:37] Action: Xgates edits Thunar [20:38] Settings -> Removable Drives and MEdia [20:38] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:38] Hmm, this also brings back memories, a Dell being weird with a linux install. [20:38] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-129-186-136.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] hello #slackware [20:39] andarius: are you talking about settings in Thunar? [20:40] from what I gather you go to Enable Volume Manager in Thunar but it's all checked and still my usb drive isn't mounting [20:40] that item is under the main menu [20:40] ok [20:41] http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-volman [20:41] guess so [20:41] nope still not mounting [20:41] errr [20:44] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.72.254) joined ##slackware. [20:47] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:47] what would cause this not to automount in Xfce? [20:48] this is odd [20:49] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:50] actually do we need to give it any perms for a user to have it automounted, does it need any policykit? [20:51] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:54] ahhh I hope /etc/group plugdev:x:83:root is all I need... [20:54] I would like to think being a user and adding the user would be a better route [20:54] pseudonymous: multilib won't be happening OOTB. [20:55] pseudonymous: and the multilib stuff is Eric's, not mine [20:55] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] cVsup (~cVsup@189.83.213.152) joined ##slackware. [20:55] I can use two devices in same NICs? [20:55] eth1 and eth2 [20:56] pseudonymous: with the multilib packages, you can just use his binaries. especially for the compat32 packages, which are just modified slackware32 binaries anyway [20:59] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:59] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:02] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [21:02] crap I added myself to /etc/group plugdev and it still won't automount [21:02] what a pain [21:03] zaltekk: sure, but I'd really love to go through doing it myself. That way, I know that, provided his original build-scripts exist, I can always upgrade the packages myself should the available binaries not be recent enough.. It's sort of a contingency thing. I hate to rely on external mirrors more than I have to (it's certainly *not* the quality of it that I doubt!) [21:05] understandable [21:05] the compat32 packages you could of course make with the utility scripts provided [21:05] so i assume you are talking about rebuilding glibc and such? [21:06] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] if we aren't using Kde do we need to have settings in fstab and perms set in order to have usb/flash drives automount? [21:08] what would cause a CPU fan to run at full speed nonstop??? [21:08] heat??? [21:08] it's in the right riser [21:08] zaltekk: yup. I guess what I'm doing here will be an ideal example of a classic greek tragedy, everybody but the protagonist knows that he's steering toward his doom. [21:08] hrm [21:09] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [21:10] epoch: either a program (d'uh!) or the cpu-freq governor. Usually you'd use the "ondemand" one, but there's one called "performance" (I think?) which locks the cpu and max speed [21:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] okayyy [21:13] rworkman: yea, sorry. Confused it with you for some reason. Why won't multilib happen though ? It seems perfectly reasonable to assume that most 64bit users have some 32bit software lying around. The clean seperation of slackware libs into /lib64 and /lib respectively etc etc... Am I missing some key reason why this should be considered an invasive change ? [21:13] epoch: http://idebian.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/cpu-frequency-scaling-in-linux/ .. Basically this was what I meant, also shows you how to examine which governor runs atm. as well as changing it [21:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:18] wulfmax (~wulfmax@pool-72-66-29-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: wulfmax [21:18] thanks [21:18] cVsup (~cVsup@189.83.213.152) left irc: [21:21] iggy1 (~ig13@201.16.7.230) joined ##slackware. [21:21] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Anyone (other than myself) having trouble with nmbd not starting or dying? [21:23] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:23] Slack13 stock install [21:23] I did until I made a samba.conf ;] [21:23] er, smb.conf [21:24] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [21:24] I did bother to check that. ;-) It works fine if I restart after X. [21:26] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:26] After I have X up, /etc/rc.d/rc.samba restart nmbd: no process killed [21:27] neruda_ (~guest@unaffiliated/neruda) joined ##slackware. [21:28] wulfmax (~wulfmax@pool-72-66-29-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] pupiteee (~p@109.93.232.49) joined ##slackware. [21:30] pupiteee (~p@109.93.232.49) left irc: Client Quit [21:32] pattwo (~pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:35] cVsup if you are asking.. can I use 1 nic card and have more then 1 ip.. yes [21:37] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. 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[21:47] it seems to work fine as it is [21:47] Arirang (~koolaid@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] besides; it's easy enough to install multilib if you desire so with alienBOB packages [21:51] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.138) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:58] weirfghliewugfh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) joined ##slackware. [21:59] hello #slackware!!! [22:00] nyRednek_ (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:01] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Anyone here have issues with compiling VMware modules on slackware-current? [22:02] if I am not using a custom kernel, can I simply download and install the new patch avaialble (2.6.29.6-3)? Will I also need new modules package? [22:03] slackwarebob (~bobby@adsl-76-249-231-227.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:03] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:05] croto (~dd@2001:470:1f07:744:290:4bff:fe49:6bc5) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:06] escaflown1 (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] escaflown1 (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:08] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:12] irighti (~irighti@ip72-209-165-252.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] irighti (~irighti@ip72-209-165-252.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:19] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Hello People [22:21] Howdy bob. [22:21] ArtyG: not much. can't read the screen. [22:21] I SAID, HOWDY BOB [22:21] the text is badly blurry. not sure what component is responsible for blanking out screen after some idle time. [22:22] B a d d e a l , b r o [22:22] but my screen didn't blank out last nite. I guess the lcd is messed up. [22:22] sounds like it's permanently damaged. [22:22] Possible. [22:23] slackwarebob: Laptop? [22:23] peacedog: it's a laptop, correct. [22:24] i thought that lcds didn't suffer from imprints from being left on [22:24] lol, I had to type the name in kwrite and increase to font see the the first guys name, ArtyG. [22:24] slackwarebob: have a look at this, helped me solve more than a few lcd probs. http://www.daileyint.com/hmdpc/lappower.htm [22:25] gm152 (~gm@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:25] so some laptop lcd problems are actually solveable? [22:25] slackwarebob: Oops, meant this one, sorry. ;-) http://www.daileyint.com/hmdpc/lcd.htm [22:26] cool. thanks for the link. I have bookmarked it and will read it on the other computer later. [22:26] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [22:26] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:26] slackwarebob: Sure, I've repaired them many times. Not many subsystems to deal with really, hardware wise. [22:27] it's a company laptop. I would just send it back but.... [22:27] it doesn't have the corporate image (encrypted hard disk, xp, snooping software). [22:27] instead it had win7/slackware. [22:28] if it is that big of a deal, why don't you just image it back? [22:28] CygnusX1 (~CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] the image was installed by "IT" when shipping it out. [22:29] I didn't think I'd need it. So instead of ghosting it, I just installed over it. [22:29] lol [22:30] actually, I could check at dell support if it's still under warranty. [22:30] If you've got video at the moment, but it's blurry and distorted it's likely an X or driver problem. Hardware problems are usually more predictable. [22:31] nah, bios is like that too. [22:32] well, actually I think BIOS was fine. It took forever to load tho. like 10 seconds at BIOS. I think after that it gets messed. [22:32] stonedslacker (~stonedsla@cpe-075-181-028-091.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] vt1 messed up [22:33] macius (~macius@i209-195-115-66.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] Hey guys, I got a genuine mystery for you. I have an laptop with a broken xp install. am booting it with a slackware 12 install cd. I want to mount an external usb hard drive and mount the laptop's harddrive and basically just copy the internal hd to the usb. [22:34] use a live CD like helix [22:34] If you've got problems at the bios screen then hardware is more likely. [22:34] ok, according to the dell website, it is under warranty until 8/24/2010 [22:34] better support for the native NTFS [22:35] I cant get the usb drive to mount. If I look at dmesg it shows up and says the drive is sda but it does not show up in /dev/ also if I run rescan=scsi-bus it shows up but again not in /dev, what be the deal? [22:35] fdisk -l <-- check for a partition onthe device [22:35] hmmm let me reboot to see what the bios look like. If not, it's under warranty. I could just probably call it in bypassing corporate IT. [22:35] if none then mount /dev/sda [22:35] brb [22:36] slackwarebob (~bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:37] andaruius: fdisk doesnt see it either [22:38] not at all? [22:38] maybe try # blkid [22:38] i.e. you said it showed in dmesg as sda. fdisk -l has no listing for sda at all? [22:38] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:39] actually it does, cfdisk does not. fdisl -l shows both partitions perfectly. [22:39] it shows an actual table for the USB? [22:39] or just that the dev is there? [22:40] What do you mean? It shows up and say sda 1 * bootable some numbers then the next line is sda2 and some numbers [22:40] gm152 (~glen@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] that is likely the HD, not the USB [22:40] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.33.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:40] No the hd is there too [22:40] It's hda, I can mount it with ease. [22:40] your USB has been set up for booting? [22:41] to make sure I am tracking, you know the partition you want to mount, but it fails? [22:41] I did that because I was gonna run a complete install from it. Does it matter? Should I remive the bootablke flag? [22:42] no, but it will matter if the USB is not already formatted and ready to be mounted [22:42] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.138) joined ##slackware. [22:42] i.e. you cant mount the raw device [22:42] I need to maount any partition, I dont care which. I need to copy the contents of hda1 to sda1 or 2 but mount says it doesnt exsist and if I ls /dev|grep sd I get nothing [22:43] if you are using the USB as recovery space, I would create a single partition on it. format it as your prefered and support FS, then mount it from withing the boot CD [22:44] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.16.190) joined ##slackware. [22:44] if used as recovery storage there is no need for several partitions or even a boot flag [22:44] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:44] I'm not. Basically I just want to grab everything so I can do a linux install on the machine. That way the owner can browse through the entire contents at their leisure and decide what they want. [22:45] right. [22:45] from what you said it sounds like the table is hosed on the USB. recreat and format it then it should mount fine. then you can copy the HD over [22:46] cfdisk is not as verstil as fdisk. [22:46] I only added the other partition out of desperation, I thought maybe 150 gigs was to much or something so I split it in two givinbg me a 10 gig parttion up front and I just toggled the boot flag for the hell of it, no reason really. [22:46] what FS are they formatted ? [22:46] I have already recreated it several times it keeps happening the same way. [22:47] using fdisk? and what FS ? [22:47] I just thought about that, its cfdisk that fails. Okay, lemme do that, thanks a ton dude! [22:48] hope it helps. let us know [22:50] All right! fdisk -w fixed it right up, you da man! Thanks alot! [22:51] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:52] I have been beating my head against the wall with this damn thing, finally jeez [22:53] Now if I could get my nic issues worked out on my other two boxes I'll be in heaven [22:53] yw [22:53] what sort of NIC issues ? [22:54] Action: andarius notes heaven is over rated ;) [22:54] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:55] I cant get it working right. I have an onboard and a pci one in each of my machines. I can use ifconfig and it will come up with no errors but I cant ping anything, not 127.0.0.1 or even itself. [22:56] umm [22:56] would need a bit more data on that one [22:56] also try "netconfig" and see if that works [22:57] I can give you any data you desire, yoda. [22:57] have you tried netconfig? [22:57] command not found [22:57] as root? [22:57] gimme a sec [22:57] oh shit, I am on a debian box atm, I forgot [22:58] dont make me get the tazer out... [22:58] Arirang (~koolaid@c-24-21-186-231.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:58] Oh now you've done it. [22:58] yeah, I know [22:58] Think of all the kittens you just killed. [22:59] billions I'm sure [23:00] 1.21jiggabundles of kittens [23:00] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [23:01] I don't really like cats so I'm not too tore up about it lol [23:02] Action: andarius wonders how big a freakin jiggabundle is :| that has to be really big [23:02] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:06] Action: SlashQuit wonders if a freakin jiggabundle is even bigger than a normal jiggabundle [23:08] ArtyG (~kvirc@c-76-104-236-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [23:08] Action: pseudonymous wonders what it says of a person if they're up at 5am trying to compile gcc and glibc and it's not job-related [23:09] Lemme see if I understand this right. A default install of slack if I say install everything and just let it go will include a dns server which will, be default, run at start time. Now if issue 'dhclient' on another machine that is connected to the slack box only the slack box should say 'Hey nigga, I gotcha over here, you will be known as 192.168.100.5. [23:09] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [23:09] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [23:09] no. [23:09] dhcp is not the same as dns [23:10] I knew that but for some reason I confuse the two [23:10] But besides that, will that work that way? [23:10] and with a full install or not, you still will be asked which services to have enabled at boot time and iirc bind or named are not enabled by default. [23:10] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:10] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:11] dhcpd or dnsmasq are also not enabled [23:11] What should I issue on the slack box to make it listen and be ready to assign an ip address? [23:11] you need to configure dhcpd or dnsmasq [23:12] also, before you go further notice that dhcpcd and dhcpd are two different things [23:13] I ran dhclient on the non slack one once and it did get an offer and gave it an ip address but I was still unable to ping anything, even the very device that had just given it an ip [23:13] Usually, that comes up in this context. [23:13] what was the IP that the system received? [23:13] 192.168.100.10 [23:14] I have the extra interface on the slack box setup as 192.168.100.1 [23:14] Although it too has been unable to ping anything. [23:14] Are you sure the Slackware system is the system which actually handed out that IP? [23:14] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:14] Its the only system attached. [23:15] What services are running on the Slackware system? [23:15] I am trying to build a gateway/firewall/server from an extra computer but I have no idea what I'm doing. [23:16] How can I find out right quick? cat /etc/services? [23:16] ps aux [23:16] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] ps auxww [23:16] pastebin it [23:18] that machine is not online. Let the usb drive finish up what it's doing on the laptop and I'll do that [23:19] It would also help to know your physical topology. I think you were the person who may have had connectivity issues? cross over cable needs? [23:20] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] Yeah thats me antiwire [23:21] How are your systems connected now? [23:23] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:24] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:25] kevin01123 (~chatzilla@71-81-65-35.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:25] peacedog (peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:25] Has there been any say on what's going to happen with KDE 4.4 with kauth and Slackware? [23:25] http://pastebin.com/d7d8380a4 [23:26] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] stonedslacker: I don't think the Slackware system is handing out dhcpd IPs [23:27] Right now the slack box is only connected to the debian box. Their extra nics are connected. The onboard nic on the debian machine is conected to my modem and is what I'm using to speak to with you fine people. [23:30] andarius (~andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: there are few things I want from this life, involvement iwth you is not one of them [23:31] brb [23:33] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:34] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [23:34] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-167-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] kevin01123 (~chatzilla@71-81-65-35.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158] [23:38] neruda_ (guest@unaffiliated/neruda) left ##slackware. [23:40] pattwo (pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. 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