[00:00] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:01] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] so what did everybody think of the new star trek movie? [00:02] if you spoil it, so help me. [00:03] touchy [00:03] im not one of those guys, was just asking opinions [00:03] btw, spock kills dumbledore [00:03] berke: my apologies, it was indeed someone else but with exact the same question. [00:03] you actually checked the logs BP{k}? [00:04] berke: of course. [00:04] BP{k}: does your index finger ever bend and say to you "red rum, red rum"? [00:05] berke: you're not going to get far with that attitude. [00:05] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] well im glad it wasn't me, but just out of morbid curiosity, what would you have done if it did turn our to have been me? [00:06] Action: spook facepalms [00:06] spook that was a joke, it was a mavie quote, "the shining", am i the only one here who has seen it? [00:06] s/mavie/movie [00:06] berke: probably called you on it. :-P [00:07] berke: many people have seen 'the shining' [00:07] duh, course i know. [00:07] <===note to self, never piss off BP{k} [00:07] ahh, enlightment sets in. [00:08] yeah, i might come home and find my rabbit boiled in a pot [00:08] many have seen that one too [00:08] berke: I would never do that. [00:08] or your pot boiled in your rabbit [00:08] if you live in soviet russia [00:08] this is exactly why I have kethry to cook food for me. [00:09] except in soviet russia [00:09] where... food cooks... you... for kethry! [00:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [00:10] [00:10] i just came back from the star trek movie, and I dont know what to think of it, my decades of star trek worship kept making me want to rebel, but the movie was still fun and exciting, so now Im confused [00:11] berke: its not made for people like you [00:11] berke: i found it too rushed [00:11] spook: whatever i have done to piss you off I am genuinely sorry ok, truce bro, truce [00:11] like the transformers movie, wasnt made for diehard transformers fans [00:11] and as Urchlay mentioned a while ago, "it's too much like an action movie" [00:11] Um, I think, in Soviet Russia, kethry cooks BP{k} for food! [00:12] but still entertaining nonetheless [00:12] but perhaps I have the syntax wrong [00:12] berke: no, misunderstanding me. transformers movie made me cringe. [00:12] I really enjoyed the new Star Trek movie. [00:13] I did think the new spock was pretty cool [00:13] I'm not a treky buff, but i thought they did a good new age transition for the movie. [00:13] he'll always be sylar to me [00:13] yeah at one point in the movie he was face to face with kirk, and I swore I heard a ticking clock in the background [00:13] the dragonball movie raped my childhood [00:13] agentc0re: i'm just buff. period. [00:14] :P [00:14] rob0: i think mine is the most correct. [00:14] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [00:14] rob0: there is no standardised convention for statements of 3 or more parts [00:16] should i have waited for star trek to come out on dvd to watch it? definitely. [00:16] should i torrent it to piss off people who want more movies made? yes. [00:18] so do you guys think slamd64 will die off as a distro now that slackware64 is out? [00:18] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:19] Whats everyones opinion of the iPhone versus the Android phones, Esp. G1 and the up and coming Mytouch(aka G2) [00:19] berke: no. [00:20] berke: Probably turn into 32bit combat libs addition for slackware64. [00:20] agentc0re: new iphones, 16 and 32 GB, are being released on June 19, and the original to $99. :P [00:20] firebird619: i know, this is why i asked it. [00:20] lots of new toys. new things. [00:20] agentc0re: ah, ok. :P [00:20] agentc0re: you cant really compare just the OS (android) versus the complete package of the iphone [00:20] I am leaning to go towards an iPhone but my gut is telling me to wait for a good phone to come out on android. [00:21] berke: see if the output of "finger fred@slackware.com" helps any to determine the status of slamd64 [00:21] i have an iphone 3g. pretty happy with it. [00:22] rworkman: nice [00:22] Lemons are the plan [00:22] spook, maybe, but I thought mine was appropriate for implying the condition of poverty. [00:22] ah ok [00:23] spook: One thing i haven't liked hearing so far is that they enabled tethering but AT&T wont turn it on and will probably end up charging extra for it and then the MMS thing wont come for some time. [00:23] my plan detailed at spook@ucc.asn.au [00:24] agentc0re: huh? i'm in australia, land of the slightly less sucky telcos [00:24] spook: hehe [00:24] spook: Lucky for you. This is what is going to happen in the US. [00:25] lemons? [00:25] agentc0re: theres no tethering yet. gotta wait for os v3 [00:25] scubacuda_ (i=rog@121.sub-75-217-167.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:25] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:25] spook: Yes i know. But when it is out, AT&T in the US will not enable it. [00:25] agentc0re: most will not. [00:26] scubacuda_ (i=rog@121.sub-75-217-167.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:26] i'm pretty sure in my contract is says about not allowing tethering. [00:26] berke: inside joke among the Slackware team that was leaked. [00:26] Thats not what i heard. [00:26] heard/read. [00:26] I guess we'll see. [00:26] agentc0re: it boxes out their mobile broadband products [00:27] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:27] s/leaked/come out of the closet/ [00:27] firebird619 Urchlay I mentioned this earlier and I have completed the list. Posted here for verification and testing if anyone wants to: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14577 [00:27] rob0: shush ;-) [00:27] like how when life gives you aids you should make lemon-aids? [00:27] haha [00:27] antiwire: awesome. Thanks. [00:27] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [00:28] 413 nanohertz [00:28] antiwire: seriously, hang on to that. There's been some discussion about user-contrib queuefiles at sbopkg.org [00:28] spook: xkcd! [00:28] rworkman: awesome, It's something I've been meaning to do for a while and I just rebuilt a system which gave me the chance to start from scratch. [00:28] Wow.. thats some list. [00:29] lol [00:29] Lemons indeed. [00:29] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009231183.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:30] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [00:32] quit [00:32] Mero_ (n=meroslac@201009231183.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:33] antiwire: re #42 (mplayer), you only need to add libdvdcss for that to work fine in -current [00:33] (no rebuild of mplayer needed) [00:33] got it, i'll fix up the note [00:33] ah ok [00:34] Oh so someone crashed at my Jumpsite today and broke a few bones.. [00:34] I couldn't find out if it was one of my instructors, but i hope it wasn't. [00:35] did equipment fail? [00:35] No, landed to hard. [00:35] damn [00:35] from what i know at least. [00:36] My guess is that it might have been a malfunction and deployed the reserve and was just able to make a liveable landing. [00:36] There are only a few people there in their 40's... two of which are my instructors. [00:36] chances are, i know them. Kind of sucks really. [00:37] yeah, at least it was a survivable landing though [00:37] nater (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] LOL anyone watch operation repo ? [00:37] Ya, that is for sure. [00:37] agentc0re: air force? [00:38] spook: Just fun jumping. [00:38] ah [00:39] has anyone in here tried songbird? [00:39] global recession: military spending world-wide: +20%. great! [00:40] whoo, a bit of topic there mister [00:40] sorry. [00:41] berke: yes. [00:41] I just found a slackbuild Im going to try that first [00:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:41] nater (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] berke: there is one on SBo. [00:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/Songbird/ :D [00:42] yeah thats the one Im compiling now [00:42] repackaging. [00:42] scubacuda (n=rog@67.102.82.59) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:42] yes [00:43] so how long till you think slackware64 wont be -current and just have a stable release? I find it to be pretty stable now [00:43] when it's ready. [00:43] berke: see slackware.com -> general FAQ #5 [00:43] cakes take a while to bake [00:44] We don't have all the eggs in yet. [00:44] Still missing some lemon flavor too. [00:45] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [00:46] lemoncakeparty.org [00:46] and the the volunteers to taste it to ensure it's ready for mass production :) [00:46] Action: rworkman is afraid to look [00:46] hey slackmagic, how's it going? [00:46] yeah I heard about that site at work today [00:47] firebird619: doing well..doing well :) [00:47] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] hmm thats interesting, first time Ive ever built a package and had it package and install, and then it wont run [00:48] especially from slackbuilds [00:48] you guys think once VERIZON gets the iPhone, ATT will lose a lot or not many customers ? [00:49] contracts. [00:49] so no [00:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [00:49] hmm, if it werent for contracts [00:49] berke: songbird? [00:49] yes [00:49] many people at that time wont be on contract.. i mean a lot of people got the iPhone years back, [00:49] the package from the repo [00:49] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:49] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [00:49] ./songbird: line 169: ././songbird-bin: No such file or directory [00:50] thats the error it gives me, after the package built and installed [00:50] jeev: also, a lot of contracts' termination fees decrease the closer they are to the end. [00:50] One sec, I'll have a look [00:50] ls [00:50] so that's another reason why people would jump ship to verizon [00:50] does the us have much 3g deployment? [00:51] if verizon did it, it'd be LTE i think [00:51] hmm, if wxPython gets updated do programs that use wxPython need to be rebuilt? [00:51] the phone network in the U.S. blows [00:51] jeev: LTE? [00:51] i think it's considered 4G, not sure [00:51] while we can get 7.2mpbs 3g here, beyond the phone tower its not much better than 1.5mpbs [00:52] in most cases even worse. [00:52] hmm, thats wierd too, I passed ARCH="x86_64" to the slackbuild script but it still built the package with i686 in the filename [00:52] Action: BP{k} slaps berke [00:52] FOOL! [00:52] berke: silly rabbit. [00:53] ??? [00:53] spook, ATT is lacking in speed i read. [00:53] verizon is good here [00:53] jeev: this is perth, australia. [00:53] berke: sorry songbird just works. Whatever problems you may have. it is *you*# [00:53] i have verizon but no data service and tmobile edge. [00:53] then why am I a silly rabbit? [00:53] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] because you lack clue. [00:53] berke: and trix are for kids [00:53] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] i have clue [00:53] antiwire: good chance they would be. depends on the updatew [00:54] it was colonel mustard in the library with the candlestick! [00:54] that may be true, but Im not sure what I did wrong [00:54] alisonken1noc: minor version update on the wxPython side [00:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [00:54] eviljames, how's canada [00:54] antiwire, how's charter [00:54] was I not supposed to pass the new arch to the slackbuild script? [00:54] eviljames: no, its was miss scarlet in the conservatory with the candlestick *wink* [00:54] why would it need that berke ? [00:54] antiwire: minor versions usually just mean fixes - so should be able to upgrade. Just be prepared. [00:54] jeev: after my monthly disconnect, dandy [00:54] lol [00:54] alisonken1noc: got it, thanks [00:55] jeev: beautifully. yourself? [00:55] antiwire, i'd get U-Verse if they didnt have a $150 set up fee for internet only [00:55] because thats what I had to do for every other slackbuild I have ever done [00:55] eviljames, LA > CANADA [00:55] jeev: obviously false. I can't wait for arizona bay. [00:55] you recall that Im running slackware64 right? [00:55] heh [00:55] berke: yes and? [00:55] berke: you CANT compile for 32bit on slackware64, currently. [00:55] berke: did you read the slackbuild script for songbird? [00:55] berke: do tell me: did you even see "ARCH=i686 # Leave this Alone. Precompiled binary [00:55] ARCH=i686 # Leave this Alone. Precompiled binary [00:55] doh! [00:55] but there is 64-bit code from songbird.com [00:55] uh, i want to start a crazy blog but it's gay [00:55] berke: I told you it was a repackaging. [00:56] berke: if you look at the slackbuild, look at the section where it checks ARCH [00:56] Will you still need me, will you still feed me, Slackware64? [00:56] berke: please do us a favour: deinstall -current . you are most obviously not ready for this. [00:56] spook: you can using slamd64's latest set of compat. [00:56] so are you saying I should just build the package as is? [00:56] i should upgrade one of my machines to slackware64 [00:56] spook: they work beautifully. [00:56] rob0: all we need now is a Bill Clinton reference :) [00:56] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] eviljames: i doubt he is doing that [00:57] berke: there is nothing to build. i repackages a *PRECOMPILED* binary. [00:57] look BP{k}we all make mistakes [00:57] berke: you more than anyone else, yes. [00:57] oy [00:57] berke: not all slackbuilds are source compilers [00:58] berke: look at it is this way: you waste my time, checking a build that I submitted. Hence you get hit with the shitstick. [00:58] Action: eviljames blows his whistle [00:58] BP{k}: 2 minutes, unnecessary roughness. [00:58] Action: rworkman appeals [00:58] s/appeals/overrides/ [00:58] Action: alisonken1noc demands a review on instant replay [00:58] rworkman: aren't you the league commissioner or something? [00:58] DOO OVER [00:58] OBJECTION! [00:59] eviljames: :) [00:59] OVERRULED [00:59] Action: chopp throws an octopus onto the ice [00:59] objection, the judge is an idiot [00:59] Action: BP{k} slides and dices it, and makes calimari. [00:59] haha [00:59] mmm... calamari [00:59] Action: eviljames drools [00:59] mmmmmm ..... calamari [01:00] Action: alisonken1noc heads to the bathroom with hand over mouth [01:00] i've always wanted to play icehockey [01:00] I've always played hockey (here, the 'ice' is assumed) [01:00] i've always played field hockey [01:00] http://www.newtechusa.com/ppi/talent.asp [01:00] here (in california), ice has to be specified since roller hockey is a favorite option [01:01] I was born with skates on. (my poor mother) [01:01] chopp: hear hear! i don't know if they were there at booth, but I had my feet amputated and replaced with them shortly thereafter.. [01:01] itsnot clear to me why I even need a slackbuild at all if its precompiled [01:01] s/booth/birth/ WTF [01:01] here (in australia), field doesnt have to be specified since roller and ice hockey are rare. [01:02] berke: for packaging [01:02] berke: package management - or do you just dump things on your computer without keeping track of them? [01:02] berke: because packages make installing, removing and upgrading much easier [01:02] Action: agentc0re hands BP{k} the eel canon [01:02] alisonken1noc: it wouldn't suprise me :) [01:02] hahahahahahahahahah [01:02] Fire at will SIR! [01:02] lol antiwire. [01:02] alisonken1noc: I just dump things on your computer w/o keeping track of them... [01:02] eviljames: I understood. :P [01:02] agentc0re: its not yours to hand out! [01:02] jeev: haha [01:02] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [01:02] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:02] eviljames: doh! Unfortunately, my computer does not run a redmond O/S :) [01:02] Action: spook fingers the orbital eel cannon network controller [01:02] spook: It is so, I have been in possession of it for quite some time. [01:03] I disabled the orbital eel cannon network controller quite some time ago, it now controls your toilet to explode. [01:03] Action: BP{k} tries to remember his password for the orbital cluestars [01:04] i just have to ssh into the orbital control center :) [01:04] Action: agentc0re whispers, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. [01:04] Remember, same as your luggage! [01:04] internal data flow error, I give up [01:04] agentc0re: "Man in the middle attack attempted - ignore" [01:05] Action: spook fires an eel from orbit at agentc0re [01:05] spook: Which, again, controls your toilet to asspolde. [01:05] berke: if you're running slackware64 without the slamd64 compatibility packages, and you try to install a 32-bit binary (which ARCH=i686 blatantly states it's 32-bit), then yes, you're going to have problems [01:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:06] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:06] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Action: BP{k} would have just stated everything after "then" [01:06] gigabit transfers to a server are maxing out my little laptop's disk IO [01:06] this is a sad state of affairs [01:07] what server [01:07] BP{k}: :) [01:07] antiwire: you wont get more than 120mB/s [01:07] antiwire: but it sure beats t-base100!! [01:08] [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.06 GBytes 906 Mbits/sec [01:08] spook: thinnet [01:08] it's going well but the poor laptop maxes out on large transfers [01:08] disk IO [01:08] spook: tbase-100? a little dislexic today, are we? [01:08] antiwire: large files? try jumbo frames [01:09] alisonken1noc: i'm trying to study japanese. [01:09] :) [01:09] alisonken1noc: they writen backwards. [01:09] they write vertical [01:09] top to bottom, right to left. [01:10] the only reason for right-to-left is when typewriters became japanese capable [01:10] nite all. [01:10] agentc0re: nite - hope you sleep better tonight [01:10] alisonken1noc: almost all computerised japanese is left to right, horizontal [01:15] Nick change: dngr- -> dngr [01:15] ok, I know Ill probly just get hit with the "shit-stick" once again, but I cant get gst-plugins-bad to compile, with or without passing ARCH="x86_64", anyone have a pointer? [01:16] lol [01:16] maybe it's on the 'not 64bit happy' list [01:16] berke: look at the slackbuild and see if the check for architecture processes 64-bit options? [01:16] berke: clue* [01:16] theres a pointer [01:17] in your case its null [01:17] berke: if the slackbuild does _NOT_ have an "else if ARCH=x86_64 .." section, then you would have to figure out what needs to be changed in order to make it compile under 64-bit [01:17] well its one of the required packages for songbird, and songbird is in SBo, so I assume there is a way [01:18] sbo does deps only for x86 [01:18] just because the deps for it are in sbo, doesnt means they all will compile for x86_64 [01:18] SBo != 64-bit clean on all slackbuilds <------ NOTE: SBo was originally 32-bit, and may take a few years to catch up with 64-bit since Slackware __JUST__THIS_MONTH__ had official support for 64-bit [01:19] most slackbuilds compile unchanged for 64bit, in slamd64 [01:19] but there is a release on the songbird website for 64-bit linux, so there still must be a way [01:19] We'll have it done for 13.0 or shortly thereafter :) [01:19] just because the SBo scripts say 'if [ "$ARCH" = x86_64 ]' doesn't mean they were ever tested on 64bit either :) [01:20] (morning/evening/afternoon everyone) [01:20] berke: you know what they say about __assume__ :) [01:20] i meant to say assu [01:21] yeah. [01:22] the biggest thing to watch out for is 64-bit libs getting installed in /usr/lib [01:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "out of this world" [01:22] Hey Urchlay [01:23] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:23] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [01:23] hey fbird [01:23] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [01:24] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:25] berke: x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) Slackware package /tmp/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.9-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. :P [01:27] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [01:28] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:28] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [01:28] If we've got the LIBDIRSUFFIX stuff in the script, then it's been tested on slackware64-current; otherwise, it hasn't. [01:28] chopp: are you running slackware64-current? [01:30] berke: yes I am. It built fine here adding the LIBDIRSUFFIX to the slackbuild, but take note of what rworkman said above. [01:30] so chopp you changed your libdir suffix? [01:31] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.87.213.62) joined ##slackware. [01:31] --libdir=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} \ [01:31] berke: requirement for making sure 32-bit goes to /usr/lib and 64-bit goes to /usr/lib64 - don't mix 32/64-bit libraries [01:32] the hyperVM guy hung himself [01:32] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:32] or in the case of slackware64, it may be an issue of 64-bit going to /usr/lib and 32-bit going to /usr/lib32. Still working on figuring that one out [01:32] naw, /usr/lib32 is an abomination, slackware64 nor slamd64 uses it [01:33] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:33] thank you chopp and alisonken1noc that was very helpful, thank you for being nice to a noob, #slackware could use more people like you [01:33] its not like theres a lib16 [01:33] Slackware64 isn't going to have /lib32 dirs [01:33] another damn bw-ism [01:33] I know slamd64 doesn't use lib32, but at a quick glance, it looked like slackware64 used /usr/lib for 64-bit stuff [01:34] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [01:34] /usr/lib on 64 should contain only non-arch-specific stuff [01:34] alisonken1noc: nope. /usr/lib64... on a fresh slack64 install, /usr/lib is almost empty [01:34] i think somestuff is hardcoded to look for things in /usr/lib. [01:34] Urchlay: thanks - still looking into slack64 [01:41] Is there actually a convention for /usr/lib{64} ? [01:41] yes. [01:41] I don't know much about 64bit distributions yet [01:41] its part of the same standard, iirc [01:41] well the errors Im getting around x264 [01:41] as soon as I get a 64bit setup I'll be able to play with it more [01:43] well, other than this funny SPARC box that I managed to put Debian and FreeBSD on [01:43] that's about all I have for 64bitness [01:44] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [01:47] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-149-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:55] anyone still awake? [01:56] yup [01:56] in case you're bored: http://imagebin.org/51907 [01:56] Urchlay: How'd your open mic jam go? [01:56] that's a pic from it [01:56] went great [01:56] cool [01:56] Urchlay, who are those weirdos [01:56] looks like the cast from Deadliest Catch [01:57] the one with the beard and the jeans with a hole in the knee is me [01:57] heh [01:57] I dunno why I look so *somber* there, I was really having a good time [01:57] lighting? :P [01:58] nah, apparently I make a bass player face that I'm completely unaware of [01:58] haha [01:58] the guy to my right with the les paul, I think he said he used to play with Molly Hatchet [01:58] maybe you'll have to practice you're bass face in front of a mirror. :P [02:00] at least I'm looking at the crowd instead of my fingers [02:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:01] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [02:02] anyway now you can see why most of my social life is carried on through a text-only interface: I'm frigging hideous [02:02] hahaha [02:04] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Client Quit [02:04] Urchlay: Is that open mic jam a regular thing? [02:05] yah [02:05] Urchlay: as long as you're happy, who cares what anyone thinks. [02:06] chopp: exactly [02:06] been there once before but didn't play last time [02:06] big place? crowd? [02:06] chopp: eh, I'm not unhappy at least [02:06] reasonably big, decent crowd for a monday night [02:06] lol Urchlay [02:06] i'm pretty damn happy that i don't cut my hair anymore [02:07] i cant sleep with hair longer than 2 cm [02:07] which hair? [02:07] I can't sleep with stubble on my face [02:07] antiwire's moms pubic hair [02:07] hahah [02:08] have to be either completely clean-shaved, or let the beard grow however it wants [02:08] the hair around the big head or the little head [02:08] or somebody's fake hair? [02:08] nachuo: the less that's said about jeev's pubes, the better [02:08] lol [02:09] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.50.51) joined ##slackware. [02:09] shiiiit, his nuts haven't even dropped. :P [02:09] Action: nachuo takes off somebody's fake hair [02:09] lol [02:09] s/takes/rips [02:09] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:09] Urchlay: Remind me to stand next to you. You make me look good! [02:09] nachuo: that's actually my plan. let if get long enough and give it away [02:09] if/it [02:09] rob0: eh, always willing to help out a fellow slacker, that's me [02:10] Urchlay, not a good sign, rob0 is 400 lbs and has 3 eyes [02:10] i have to do that, because you can see the truth [02:10] Looks like some gray in that beard, dood. [02:10] this one girl kept wanting to dance with me, but she was married & hubby was scary-looking [02:10] rob0: that's not even from age. I started going gray when I was 15 [02:11] apparently runs in the family, I can't remember a time when dad's hair wasn't gray [02:11] that's such a PITA when some married chick wants to dance with you [02:11] wtf is that all about [02:11] it's like they want you to get your ass kicked [02:11] I just started in the past 2-3 years or so. [02:11] antiwire: especially when she's got a h0t single friend who's ignoring me :( [02:11] Neseth (n=neseth@wikipedia/neseth) left irc: "..(cyp): Bitch-X BaBy!" [02:11] eh, the hot girl, I'm probly old enough to be her dad anyway [02:12] haha [02:12] bah [02:12] i get sad when i hear people talk about their age [02:12] jeev: you'll get there eventually and you'll learn to love it [02:12] I ain't old. I'm still younger than the president! [02:13] no, believe it or not... i feel bad for htem [02:13] eh, or you'll die young and leave a pretty corpse (for some definition of "pretty") [02:13] (and my wife ... that's what counts!) [02:13] heh, rob0 [02:13] slKIvs (n=ivan@100.115.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:13] Ghoul (i=vanoff@oblivion.quadspeedi.NET) left ##slackware. [02:13] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:14] I did not long ago meet a nice lady who claims she's only 10 yrs older than me, and wants to have my babies or something [02:14] but I don't believe her (she looks too old to have babies anyway) [02:14] lol [02:14] lol Urchlay ;p [02:14] hi channel :) [02:15] i don't believe her either: who wants to have YOUR babies?! 8-P [02:15] comrad [02:15] Babies are fun, but a lot of responsibility. I'd prefer for my kids to have the babies. None of them have, yet. [02:15] if an older lady admits to being 45, how old it she likely to really be? [02:15] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.50.51) left irc: [02:15] s/it/is/ [02:15] Urchlay, 74 [02:15] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:15] jeev: I'd believe it, looking at her [02:15] (and I have a stepkid aged 29) [02:15] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [02:16] damn rob0 [02:16] mv -f firebird619 /dev/beb [02:16] yo jeev [02:16] comrad. [02:16] how's the kremlin [02:16] one of the bands tonight played "back in the ussr" (beatles), good song [02:17] jeev, sunny and french-looking :) [02:17] but that song's from before I was born (probably before jeev's dad was born :) [02:17] heh [02:17] my dads a geezer [02:17] heh, I got accused of being french-looking due to the hat I was wearing [02:18] (you can't really see it in that pic, black hat in a dark bar against a black background) [02:20] Urchlay, but only french can actually say what is french-looking :P [02:20] Camarade_Tux: http://imagebin.org/51907 <--- see if my hat looks french to you [02:20] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.95.69) left irc: "lalaland" [02:20] (I'm the one with the beard) [02:20] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:21] eh, the one with the big scary beard (the other guy's beard is a paltry thing by comparison) [02:21] Urchlay, red guitar ? no, that doesn't look french much ;p [02:22] red bass guitar, yah [02:22] that looks like hollywood-french ;) [02:22] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "is it real?" [02:22] well, I got it in new orleans, in the french quarter [02:22] but, eh, there aren't any actual french people in the french quarter any more (haven't been for 100+ years) [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-21555ad144bbe1e8) joined ##slackware. [02:23] the beret is more south-west of France/north of spain but not really french [02:23] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [02:24] that one's not really a beret anyway, it's a "riding cap" I think [02:24] hard to say, black on black ;) [02:24] it's not a french feature, sure we know what it but it's not a pure characteristic [02:24] bought it cause I liked it, and cause I didn't want a fedora (my friend was getting one, we'd have looked like a couple of dorks wearing identical hats) [02:25] Urchlay, you need that : http://www.linternaute.com/histoire/magazine/dossier/06/portraits-revolution/images/napoleon.png ! [02:25] Camarade_Tux: mv: cannot create regular file `/dev/bed': Permission denied :D Only I can mv myself to /dev/bed. :) [02:25] what, the hat, or the horse? :) [02:26] and, eh, I ain't wearing tights, not for love nor money [02:26] firebird619, oh right [02:26] :P [02:26] cat /dev/beeeeeeer > /dev/mouth :) [02:26] bbiab [02:26] haha [02:26] Urchlay, the hat ;p [02:26] I'd wear that hat [02:26] :p [02:26] su -c 'mv /dev/fly /dev/Camarade_Tux_House' :) [02:26] hahaha : ubuntu will use grub2 by default ^^ [02:27] firebird619, can't see it :) [02:27] I once appeared in public with a cowboy hat on [02:27] to go with my tie dye shirt [02:27] i wonder if napolean would support gay marriage [02:28] Camarade_Tux: It's a microscopic fly that'll pester the heck out of ya. Duh. :P [02:28] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:28] $ ls -l /dev/fly [02:28] damn, july 5th is a sunday this year [02:29] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-05-20 07:02 /dev/fly -> insects/fruit_fly [02:29] you want a horsefly or a house fly, you have to run /sbin/insectconfig [02:29] weirdos [02:30] what, you have no will to be weird at all? [02:30] no desire to let your freak flag fly? [02:30] i pick my nose more than george bush fucks up his wording [02:30] jeev, thanks for the compliment :) [02:30] i love farting and smelling it [02:30] firebird619, my frog will eat it -_- [02:30] that's not weird, that's just disgusting [02:31] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [02:31] now, if you were to fart into a mason jar and seal it up so you could savor it later, *that* would be weird (eh, and disgusting too...) [02:32] i wish i could fart on demand [02:32] eet mor beenz [02:32] those aren't effective. [02:32] i eat a shitload of fruit and veggies [02:32] when i fart, i fart like crazy for 3 days [02:32] you've built up a tolerance to beans [02:32] it kills every insect near me. [02:33] switch to bran muffins or something [02:33] it's taken away my headaches countless times [02:33] ehm, is there someone else there that we could talk to? [02:33] Action: Camarade_Tux puts a candle behind jeev and waits ^^ [02:34] Urchlay, like a review about my farts? [02:34] Don't you think that the relief of pressure against your intestinal walls could account for the ease of heaches? [02:34] sure antiwire but i like ot think it's the smell that does it [02:34] heaches? he has heaches? ewww [02:34] there's no cure for heaches [02:34] are they related to leeches? [02:34] dang it I missed two letters [02:34] oh, wait, that's herpes [02:34] i already figured the 40 psi in my gut relieves my headache but it feels manly to think that the headache goes away from the smell [02:35] 40psi in your gut my ass [02:35] jeev: relieves or distracts? [02:35] you sphincters can't hold back 40psi [02:35] antiwire, i could start lawn mowers with this bad boy [02:35] relieves! [02:35] your* [02:35] antiwire, man, you really kill a joke [02:35] so if you have a leaky tire on your car, you can pump it up all by yourself? [02:35] Urchlay, yea but i wouldn't plug anything into my butt [02:35] dude that's just crazy [02:35] 40psi is out of hand [02:36] antiwire: i can think of some things that could cause a sphincter to hold back 40psi [02:36] oh lord. [02:37] for example, your wife/gf walking in on you with both sets of grandparents. [02:37] spook, nah, that wouldn't be enough [02:37] http://www.nbc.com/southland/episode-guide/ [02:38] yiou guys gotta watch that shit [02:38] and a horse, the wife/gf's favourite horse. [02:38] your black husband/bf walking in, and you being a man :) [02:38] morning [02:38] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) joined ##slackware. [02:38] lol comrad/ [02:38] morning tewmten [02:38] hi Camarade_Tux =) [02:38] this is going to degenerate into a retelling of "the aristocrats", isn't it? [02:38] hey antiwire =) [02:38] tewmten: you've entered at a most disturbing moment [02:38] Camarade_Tux: how about walking in on you, when you're with the man they're cheating on you with [02:38] antiwire: haha.. im used tol it [02:38] lol [02:38] to* [02:39] spook, hahaha :p [02:39] Camarade_Tux: the well hung black guy [02:39] wtf [02:39] haha [02:40] that's a WHBG [02:40] once you go jeev, you never have pet peeves [02:40] Hey tewmten [02:41] tewtman, you sure you dont fart a lot ? [02:41] i fart alot [02:41] why? [02:41] is that where your awesome nick came from ? [02:41] no [02:41] but almost haha [02:42] speaking of well-hung - check out this youtube of naked skydiving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XIzjPFkPeY [02:42] alisonken1church, didnt know we were talking about me [02:43] alisonken1church, where you live? westside? [02:43] alisonken1noc, gah, I'd have to login to see it [02:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:43] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Camarade_Tux: was afk there for a bit. Your frog cannot eat that which it cannot sense/see. btw, did I mention it's a remote controlled fly with a camera in the right eye? [02:43] unfortunately, true. they want to make sure you're eligible to view inappropriate videos :) [02:43] alisonken1church, get fios. [02:43] "inappropriate" [02:43] wtf [02:44] australia is building a national fios service. [02:44] firebird619, but it's a superfrog ! [02:44] orly? [02:44] spook, i'm reading crappy things about australian internet shit [02:44] hehe [02:44] jeev: its not so bad. [02:44] there was a group of about 20 skydivers in the buff - one guy was literally flapping between his legs he was that big [02:44] firebird619, yarly ! [02:44] Action: firebird619 deploys a swarm of flies to Camarade_Tux's house. [02:44] Urchlay: ^^^ [02:44] alisonken1church, that was me. [02:45] firebird619, yeah, breakfast ! \o/ [02:45] alisonken1noc: eh? [02:45] well, im happy i'm not 12". my girlfriend is small. god knows i wouldn't not want to be with her because my wang is bigger than a basketball [02:45] firebird619, thanks, I was really getting hungry :) [02:45] you asked about inappropriate :) [02:45] Camarade_Tux: They're superflies armed with anti-frog missiles. :P [02:45] alisonken1noc: go to youtube and search for "the aristocrats" if you don't know what that is... [02:45] Urchlay: Have an idea [02:46] it's NSFW, but you'll survive if you have headphones [02:46] being too long is painful for them if you hit their cervix [02:46] I'm alone in the noc - just me and 120 servers [02:46] how'd you get that job? [02:46] firebird619, but not anti-/me missiles :p [02:46] that's what I should be doing [02:46] DrLinux (n=x@97-118-233-218.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] very carefully :) [02:46] alisonken1noc, my cgi wont work. [02:46] Camarade_Tux: those are on the other side. :D [02:46] Nick change: DrLinux -> Guest71146 [02:47] jeev: cgi covers too many different thigns [02:47] things [02:47] Nick change: Guest71146 -> |Amon| [02:47] firebird619, guess I'll do 50/50 with my frog :) [02:47] haha [02:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:47] jeev: you have to be more specific [02:48] heh i hate companies who sell unmetered or unlimited [02:48] i'll sell you 1gbps unmetered but i cant guarantee more than 2.4mbit! [02:48] Camarade_Tux: I sent millions of em, have fun. :) [02:48] i guess business will be business [02:48] better than paying by the byte [02:48] toast (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] <|Amon|> jeev: so go with one who doesn't? [02:48] i'd rather pay for less transfer but get faster speed [02:48] firebird619, that'll make my lunch too :) [02:49] <|Amon|> or get fiber [02:49] lol [02:49] i have my own network pushing 300 megs, i was jst hating on alisonken1church :) [02:49] so pay for the bigger pipe [02:49] :) [02:49] i was pmsing [02:49] shit man [02:49] jeev: SLA [02:49] Camarade_Tux: If you feel a rumble in your stomach, it's just the missiles. :) [02:49] <|Amon|> heh [02:49] jeev: 413nanohertz? [02:49] anyways, bbl. [02:49] i'm at level3 irvine, los angeles one wilshire, that shit in NY and switch and data in NJ [02:49] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-46-95.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:49] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [02:50] <|Amon|> i have my shit in equinix chicago and dallas [02:50] jeev: hey - I'm just up the street from one wilshire [02:50] i hate dallas [02:50] firebird619, hahaha :p [02:50] alisonken1church, go eat at Chu's kitchen man, it's on 9th [02:50] <|Amon|> and one irc server in atlanta [02:50] been to the level 3 facility here. Only place I've ever been that had armed guards who weren't cops [02:50] Urchlay, one wilshire's MMR has armed guards [02:50] I've heard of it. one of these days I'll have to try it [02:50] i have my stuff 3 feet to my left, 2 feet to my right, and 1.5 feet to my front right. [02:50] <|Amon|> one wilshire is a ripoff. [02:50] alisonken1noc, it's ghetto, almost dirty inside but fucking BEST. [02:50] jeev: primary comm site - homeland security stuff :) [02:50] get the mushroom chicken, yum. [02:50] companies selling limited are crucified in France :) [02:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:51] |Amon|: IRC server in Atlanta on which IRC net? [02:51] ahh alisonken1noc.. homeland security? that thing they fool everyone into thinking eh [02:51] <|Amon|> cogent [02:51] <|Amon|> heh [02:51] one wilshire rulez [02:51] <|Amon|> erm, I dont run it [02:51] jeev: actually, pre-homeland security setup, but yeah - one of those issues [02:51] <|Amon|> I just admin the boxen [02:51] <|Amon|> :) [02:51] ok, now i have a 10gb /, 2gb encrypted swap, and 63gb encrypted /home on the laptop i'm selling [02:51] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:51] time for upgrades and updates yay 8-S [02:51] alisonken1noc, homeland security is one big privacy issue [02:51] pretty sure that homeland security is unconstitutional. [02:51] |Amon|: I'm in Atlanta... [02:51] you can never secure land this big [02:52] agent buttfucker just enjoys reading our text [02:52] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] <|Amon|> spook: pretty sure obama is unconstitutional, too... [02:52] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [02:52] urch, i've got a nigerian friend in ATL [02:52] <|Amon|> we don't really follow the constitution much, anymore [02:52] spook: mostly constitutional - it's only a few points that are grey area to possible non-constitutional [02:52] <|Amon|> Urchlay: Awesome! [02:52] slackytude (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5594ea306c84810e) joined ##slackware. [02:52] jeev: you want some conspiracy food? look into the proximity of Tor exit nodes to municipal IXPs [02:52] |Amon|, how do you blame that on obama lol [02:52] go check it out [02:52] you'll crap your panties [02:52] <|Amon|> jeev: blacks WERE slaves and all... just sayin [02:52] i dont give a rats ass about tor [02:52] <|Amon|> get with the program [02:52] i hope he makes everyone slaves [02:52] <|Amon|> no one follows the constitution [02:53] <|Amon|> heh [02:53] my friend's friend is his best friend lol [02:53] what are Tor exit nodes and municipal IXPs [02:53] Tor exit nodes are the places that Tor traffic gets decrypted and sent on to the final dest. [02:53] an IXP is an internet exchange point [02:54] i never imagined the internet leading to so many privacy issues but i guess i was young dumb and full of ... faith in the government [02:54] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:54] what is Tor [02:54] some distributed proxy shit [02:54] you mean bittorrent? [02:54] oh [02:55] an encrypting anonymizing network [02:55] not BT but it is distributed [02:55] TwinReverb: its a way to obscure who is looking at what, by proxying lots of people through the same point [02:55] bit torrent sucks [02:55] who gets their juarez from bittorrent! [02:55] a big problem with tor is that the exit nodes takes everything : we've had a child pornography problem but the guy being suspected was actually an exit node [02:56] Camarade_Tux: yep, that's called 'haystacking' [02:56] your traffic is hidden by being among lots of other traffic which is in turn hidden amongst yours [02:56] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] TwinReverb: but Tor takes it a step further, you send your traffic through the Tor network via a proxy connection and your traffic enters encrypted, bounces around the globe in the Tor network and then exits out of a random exit node where it is decrypted and sent to the destination., [02:58] on the return trip, the exit node takes the reply, encrypts it, bounces it around and sends it back to you [02:58] and by lots of people using it, it hides quite well [02:58] the problem is...for whatever reason these exit nodes seem to have an affinity for IXPs [02:59] which means they are very close to ISP trunks and government controlled facilities [02:59] greetings [02:59] I'll take a screen shot of vidalia in a second [02:59] yo slackytude [02:59] few mins actually [03:00] the world will be a terrible place soon because of privacy issues [03:00] it's crappy now but terrible is to come [03:01] doesnt ipv6 have support for in-built encryption? [03:01] too bad encryption overhead blows [03:02] moo [03:03] slackytude2 (n=slacky@141.100.75.2) joined ##slackware. [03:03] greetings [03:03] salutation [03:03] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) joined ##slackware. [03:03] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:04] slackytude (i=8d644b02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5594ea306c84810e) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:04] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [03:04] alisonken1noc, how much does dreamhost push [03:04] yeah my bad about my internet crapping out x10001 today heh [03:04] still learning, but it's got a big pipe from what I can see [03:04] if it rains that bad again i'll just close it [03:05] ah [03:05] bastards [03:05] nix_chix0r: hows the little thing? [03:05] http://i43.tinypic.com/15xl8ud.jpg [03:05] vidalia example [03:05] he's good. he has his 2month shots tomorrow even though he's almost 3months heh [03:06] heh sudan [03:06] jeev: at least from my desktop at the noc - upload was 70M download was 17M [03:06] nix_chix0r: glad to hear the little dude is well :) [03:06] no, their bandwidth usage [03:06] bah you should probably keep it under wraps [03:07] if you want to keep your job hehe [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] not sure of usage, but I know we have a lot of customers and most of them are happy [03:07] yeah, /me mostly happy [03:07] I've found disk I/O to be limiting though [03:08] (I mean access times which can be very high) [03:08] Camarade_Tux: if you can pm me with your account, I can see about checking which machine you're on [03:08] comrad, dont you have high speed internet at the kremlin? [03:09] he's french, not russian [03:09] same thing [03:09] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) joined ##slackware. [03:09] so that's le cremline :) [03:09] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:10] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:10] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) joined ##slackware. [03:10] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:10] alisonken1noc, that was voss but I haven't really used my account for a few months now (no time to) so no need to bother, thanks anyway :) [03:10] thumbs (n=avenger@24.200.40.233) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] Thousand Island, not French! [03:10] Camarade_Tux: np [03:10] Urchlay, haha, die ;p [03:11] alisonken1noc, but I'll remember I can harass you when I have problems :D [03:11] Action: Urchlay obligingly dies [03:11] dude, I'm dead [03:11] Camarade_Tux: :) [03:12] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Action: rob0 misses Urchlay already [03:12] now, why does ocaml give me that : "The method caml_with_prefix has type [> `Prefixed of [> `Caml of string ] ] as 'a where 'a is unbound" ? Hmmm [03:12] Action: Urchlay misses me too [03:12] that ain't very grammatical, but I knows what I means [03:14] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [03:14] missyjane: welcome back [03:14] time for another night of discussions? :) [03:14] hey missyjane :) [03:14] ty hsweetheart [03:14] hehe sure [03:14] its raining cat and dog right now [03:14] missyjane: get that camera going? [03:15] missyjane, yesterday you disconnected less than a minute before barjavel got connected back to the network ;) [03:17] spook not yet, been busy working, tomorrow i got a doctor [03:17] Camarade_Tux, serious? D:... [03:17] roorah_ (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [03:20] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:21] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) joined ##slackware. [03:21] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Connection timed out [03:23] _daniel was trying to actually have cyber sex with me. [03:23] Hey missyjane, how are you? [03:23] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [03:23] y0 firebird619 [03:23] y0 slackytude [03:23] How's it going? [03:23] firebird619, trying to find who i'm going to use for my SEP IRA [03:24] I'm watching Swordfish right now and I had forgotten how crappy it was [03:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:25] antiwire: that movie sucks. [03:25] The devils rejects, best move of all time [03:25] missyjane, yeah, it was like 28 when you left and barjavel got connected back on 29 ;) [03:25] s/move/movie/l [03:25] heya frullet, how are you? [03:26] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.13.210) left irc: Client Quit [03:26] Camarade_Tux: stomach rumblin yet? :P [03:26] alisonken1noc, you there? what type of logging do you guys use for customers, webalizer ? [03:26] firebird619: doing well, yourself [03:26] firebird619, sitting in lecture, all fine. how about you? [03:26] frullet: doing excellent, thanks. [03:26] firebird619, no, it's over : see, I was afk for a few minutes :D [03:26] slackytude: doing excellent, thank you. [03:26] Camarade_Tux: :) [03:27] jeev: sounds familiar - but not sure since I'm still learning. Hardware is easy for me (like I just finished replacing bad raid drives in 5 machines), but still looking at available services [03:27] firebird619, thanks, the flies were really tasty :) [03:27] my headwounds healed quite nicely [03:27] firebird619, i am ok :) just woke up [03:27] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I salted them before deployment. :P [03:27] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [03:27] missyjane: In that case, good morning. :) [03:27] Camarade_Tux, meh happens to me all the tiem [03:27] ok [03:28] firebird619, he gets his first set of shots tomorrow. he's gona be a crabby boy [03:28] is there a big difference between the term "slackware security" and "debian security'? arent they all the same words to describe "linux security"? [03:29] they're just words [03:29] nix_chix0r: He didn't get a Hepatitis B shot at the hospital when he was born? [03:29] they mean whatever the person saying them thinks they mean, which might not be what you think they mean [03:29] words are funny that way [03:29] heh i dont rember [03:29] nix_chix0r: yeah, he'll be crabby, hopefully he won't get fever, etc. [03:29] missyjane: it has to deal with mainly default security for each distribution [03:29] he got a shot of K [03:29] i know that [03:29] the specific methods might differ between distributions of the broad concepts are the same [03:29] of/but [03:29] maybe hep b [03:30] a shot of K ? Ketamine ? :D [03:30] tuesday i think might be polio maybe [03:30] and a few others [03:30] nix_chix0r: I think it's a requirement that babies get a hep b shot before leaving the hospital. [03:30] nix_chix0r: how old is he? [03:30] alisonken1church, ah, i see then [03:30] jeev: fun part is some of the names that the guys come up with for the machines :) [03:30] firebird619, it's possible that he did i just dazed through that part [03:30] he'll be 3months on the 18th [03:30] heh [03:30] i have the chart i'm just to tired to read [03:31] so these will be his 2 month shots then. [03:31] yep [03:31] I don't have the hep b, actually I have half of it because there was a problem in France when I was getting it and my father wanted I stop getting it (so I have 2/3 of it) [03:31] missyjane: typically, security/linux security deals with the general issues. when a specific distribution is stated (like the ssl hack from debian/derivatives a couple of months ago), then it's about something that the particular distribution did for/to their security setup [03:31] ha [03:31] Camarade_Tux, i can't donate blood because i lived over in europe [03:31] alisonken1noc, basicallys omething that distro seems particularly weak to [03:31] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.28) joined ##slackware. [03:32] btw, there's a neat little ruby script for playing with that openssl/ssh PRNG bug [03:32] lol @ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276304 [03:32] nix_chix0r, you mean because of the problem with the B hepatitis vaccine ? [03:32] missyjane: or in the case of netbsd, something particularly strong to :) [03:33] it goes both ways [03:33] nix_chix0r: So he'll get another HepB, RV (Rotavirus) DTaP (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis) Hib, PCV (Pneumococcal), and IPB (Polio). [03:33] Camarade_Tux, i'm not sure i think it had something to do with mad cow disease in the mid 90s [03:33] yeah polio i hope to fuck he doesn't get the live version [03:33] nix_chix0r: no, it's inactive. [03:34] :D [03:34] reallove: yeah - I remember when I saw that post the month it came out - it was all over the net :) [03:34] because i'll have to skip work or something. i'm not going to have a 14 year old changing his diapers and having the virus active for 48hours [03:34] firebird619, some places don't do the synthetic [03:34] all these talk about kids [03:34] im glad i dont have one :D [03:34] sorry if old then,just found it :) [03:34] nix_chix0r: I thought I remembered reading that they could only give inactive now. The CDC Web site also says it's inactive. [03:34] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.28) left irc: Client Quit [03:34] missyjane: kids are the joy and the bane of parenting [03:35] nix_chix0r, possible, that was quite a long time ago though [03:35] firebird619, oh werd? [03:35] Nick change: toast -> toastytoast [03:35] Camarade_Tux, yeah i lived in italy in 95 and i think that was going on and we got our meat on the economy so because of that we can't donate blood [03:35] nix_chix0r: Here's a link to the 2009 vaccination schedule: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/child/2009/09_0-6yrs_schedule_pr.pdf <---PDF file. [03:36] IPV=Inactivated Polio Virus. [03:36] alisonken1noc, i understand, but to be honest, in ny, there is a club where they actually have parents to get around and talk called "Kigret" no joke, basically parents there lament about having kids, most if not all of them say its nothing like they thought it would be [03:36] ahhh yeah i have that chart [03:36] sweet [03:36] nix_chix0r, it's like 14 years old, if you were to have died, you'd probably alread have [03:36] (I'm sure you get the meaning of the sentence ;) ) [03:37] uhhh [03:37] missyjane: that's the case - parenting is ".. nothing like anyone thought it would be ..." because they have media (tv/movie) expectations of marriage/family/etc. [03:37] ya :D [03:37] life isnt like I thought it would be [03:37] and having diapers that shoot up the back and you have poop everywhere! [03:37] slackytude: Is it ever? :P [03:37] firebird619, probably not [03:38] it's a momment to laugh at really. [03:38] i thought i would be pissed off but i felt so bad for him i couldn't stop laughing [03:38] slackytude: I have 25 speed dials now in opera 10. :) [03:39] madness! [03:39] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:39] firebird619, I really like the small thumbnails in opera100 [03:39] eh opera10 [03:40] slackytude: Have you seen the configure speed dial button to change background, etc? [03:40] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.227) joined ##slackware. [03:40] opera 100.0? pre-pre-prealpha? [03:40] lol [03:40] its beta now [03:40] Opera 100, gosh, I wonder what features that'll have. [03:40] LOL! yikes, how about kernel 1000 [03:40] I lik the mind machine interface [03:40] i really wonder... [03:40] a web 4.0 to 1.0 converter ^^ [03:41] firebird619, no I havent [03:41] missyjane: wow, that'll be interesting. [03:41] oh yea, the kernel now manipulate genetics with far more ease and less errors [03:41] slackytude: yeah, you can change the background in speed dial and stuff now. The button's on the bottom right. [03:41] the LG Douchebag, now for ATT [03:41] firebird619, I shall look for it latr at work [03:41] cool [03:42] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [03:42] slackytude: opera itself has a few speed dial backgrounds out there, otherwise you can use any image. [03:43] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] Aldaron_ (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) joined ##slackware. [03:44] slackytude: http://imagebin.org/51909 [03:44] sluxor (n=stefan@ppp174-87.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] sluxor (n=stefan@ppp174-87.static.internode.on.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:44] sluxor (n=stefan@ppp174-87.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:45] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-eceece4030492871) joined ##slackware. [03:45] hi [03:45] Hi I was wondering why aren't gail, libselinux and ORBit2 included in the slackware 12.2 distribution? [03:46] I've also searched for slackware-native packages and cannot find them [03:46] also, does cxxlibs really replace all libstdc++ crap? [03:46] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [03:47] the answers to these questions concern me as I intended on replacing RPM-based linux desktops with Slackware-based within the organization. [03:47] isn't orbit2 gnome related? [03:47] sluxor: www.slackbuilds.org, gail and orbit2 are there, libselinux isn't. [03:48] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Shrp_: from slackbuilds.org "ORBit is a high-performance CORBA (Common Object Request Broker Architecture) ORB (object request broker)." [03:48] thanx firebird619 [03:48] you're welcome [03:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] It is supported by Red Hat and Ximian as middleware of the GNOME project. [03:48] from their site -> http://projects.gnome.org/ORBit2/ [03:48] yes firebird619 it's a dependency to linux-native propriatery software such as Lotus Notes and other software used within our organization [03:49] sluxor: ok. [03:49] cuz slack doesn't support gnome hence they don't include anything gnome.. would be my guess :) [03:51] Shrp_, yes I don't really need gnome, only some libraries from it required to run our commercial software. [03:51] thus removing the need for somewhat unstable RPM crap [03:51] sluxor: you will find a slackbuild for it on slackbuilds.org [03:52] nini [03:52] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:53] however, selinux in slackware... [03:53] Camarade_Tux: 02:53, I'm still up. :P You aren't gonna scold me this time? :P [03:53] Comrade_Tux, this software only checks for existance of selinux in order to make sure that it's disabled, so only libselinux is needed (without selinux) [03:54] :) [03:54] ugh CORBA [03:54] nix_chix0r: going to bed nix_chix0r? Good night. [03:54] I have a lecture about that [03:54] err. :P [03:54] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] silly I know but that's Lotus for ya [03:55] what is a more reliable source slackbuilds.org or linuxpackages.net ? [03:55] slackbuilds hands down [03:55] where should i look first for builds in the future? [03:55] ok [03:55] slackbuilds.org [03:56] thanx [03:56] actually you shouldn't even check linuxpackages [03:56] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:56] if you need something not available on slackbuilds.. take the time to compile it yourself :) [03:57] Nick change: Superbaloo -> baloo [03:57] kunal113 (n=kunala05@ppp-124-122-161-225.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Nick change: baloo -> baloose [03:58] or better see how the slackbuild scripts are written for creating packages and create your own [03:58] take the time to make a slackbuild yourself, and upload it to slackbuilds.org [03:58] firebird619, no, I won't tell you anything, I'll just welcome you when you wake up on tomorrow morning with your head stuck up your ass :) [03:58] so the next guy (or next 100 guys) can benefit from it [03:58] Camarade_Tux: hahaha [03:58] firebird619, so, stay awake :) [03:59] Camarade_Tux: oh gosh no, I can't stay awake that long. I'd fall asleep on the keyboard and all you'd see is "a;lskdjfiowjsldjf ;oijlkcjvblk j" :P [04:00] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] lol, shipping notice. http://picasaweb.google.com/astheruinfalls/UntitledAlbum#5345020792092104050 [04:01] im honestly surprised you guys can survive in this economy (for those that live alone) [04:01] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] firebird619, you'd type so much slackboy would ban you for your entire life ;) [04:02] Camarade_Tux: haha, that would suck. [04:03] firebird619, when do you have to wake up ? [04:04] I wake up later in the morning, like 10-10:30. :P [04:04] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [04:04] hmm, that's why [04:04] whoa, imagine seeing this coming in for a landing http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/2/7/1252724.jpg [04:05] firebird619, but that's 100% true, and some people wait for planes on the beach [04:05] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE55B6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:05] hahaha : the "DANGER" sign on the road ;p [04:05] yeah [04:06] |Amon| (n=x@97-118-233-218.hlrn.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [04:06] Danger for, it looks like boats, what about friggen planes that are landing. :P [04:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maho_Beach [04:07] Danger: everybody, watch out for boats, but, eh, the 747 coming in from the right, ah don't worry, you're safe. :P [04:08] heh, nice link. Now I know what the sign says. [04:08] kunal (n=kunala05@ppp-124-120-229-26.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Connection timed out [04:09] haha, nice sign, the guy getting blown away by he engine. :P [04:09] s/he/the/ [04:09] must be fun :D [04:09] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [04:10] If the beach is a rockin, don't come a knockin. No, not that, it's just a 747 coming in for a landing. Now get your mind out of the gutter. :P [04:11] http://www.gympietimes.com.au/story/2009/06/06/firms-to-make-shoes-with-gps-device/ <--- Yes everybody, it's shoes complete with GPS, for the guy that has to go but can't find his shoes. :P [04:11] tracking device [04:11] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:14] Q: "where are my husband's shoes ?" A:"at the prostitute next door" [04:14] Well, time to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:14] "Where is citizen 23452345?" " [04:14] firebird619, noooo, stay ! [04:14] :D [04:14] obtaining illegal papers" [04:14] oh god i heard a beep and dunno where its coming from [04:14] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-141-122.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Camarade_Tux: No....can't.....must.....leave. :P [04:15] missyjane: get out of there, you've been found. :P [04:15] later everyone. [04:16] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:16] hey i hate to ask but how easy is it for a newbie with KDE and wicd to connect to a WEP/WPA/WPA2 network using wicd? [04:16] well, I take it you already have wicd installed so just run wicd-client and see by yourself [04:17] i don't have any networks to try it out on [04:18] it's pretty easy and straight-forward [04:18] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host25-81-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:19] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[04:31] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Greetings [04:31] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [04:32] lender (n=lender@62.42.140.154.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware. [04:32] hows it going today in the slackworld? [04:33] slackerific [04:33] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE55B6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:34] slackeglad to hear that;) [04:35] :) [04:35] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:35] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.87.213.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:37] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@93.86.196.127) joined ##slackware. [04:39] High_Priest: feeling slackadelic, don't ya? [04:39] hahaha, sure thing The-spiki [04:40] RJz0r (n=taterz@c-76-18-30-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:42] RJz0r (n=taterz@c-76-18-30-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] Morning all. 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[05:09] im gonna cry :( [05:10] missyjane, why ? ='( [05:10] i keep failing my practice test [05:10] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [05:10] im getting 3-5 wrong out of 10 in every chapter practice test [05:11] what are you taking ? [05:11] dont laughj [05:11] a+ 2006 [05:12] I don't get it, what is this ? [05:12] how can i get a LAN windows computername using ip address from linux? [05:13] Camarade_Tux, http://www.comptia.org [05:13] ApOgEE--: ping it [05:13] http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/a.aspx a+ [05:13] ApOgEE--, nbtstat [05:14] ApOgEE--: If its a windows box on the lan, and it has a computer name assigned to it, it's generally returned in a ping reply. [05:15] $ ping 10.1.1.57 [05:15] PING 10.1.1.57 (10.1.1.57) 56(84) bytes of data. [05:15] 64 bytes from 10.1.1.57: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=7.44 ms [05:15] Channel flood from ApOgEE-- -- kicking [05:15] 64 bytes from 10.1.1.57: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=1.22 ms [05:15] ApOgEE-- kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:15] ^^ [05:15] ApOgEE-- (i=apogeek@my.grandma.uses.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [05:15] sorry [05:15] fool comrad [05:15] missyjane, I guess it has lots of "stupid" questions =/ [05:16] not really [05:16] its just difficult for me to remember everything [05:16] ApOgEE--, nbtstat -S [05:16] or nbtstat -s [05:16] missyjane, which one are you taking ? [05:16] ill ask you one thaht i got from page 864 - Parallel PC Cards come in ___ bit and ___ big versions. The latter is called Cardbus. [05:16] a+ lol [05:17] bash: ntbstat: command not found [05:17] ... [05:17] anther shellium user [05:17] another* [05:17] Mr. Dancing bot [05:18] bash: nbtstat: command not found [05:18] missyjane, /me can't answer either [05:18] antiwire: yup :( [05:18] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-46-95.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:18] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [05:19] ApOgEE--: man nmblookup [05:19] Action: dusty is not a windows geek [05:20] ya hard question huh, or another one that should be much easier - After a sudden power outage, Samson's PC rebooted, but nothing appeared on the screen. The PC just beeped at him, over and over and over. What's most likely the problem? [05:20] dusty: that is not a windows command though [05:20] people make fun of a+ but are usually ppl that dont have the cert or failed it :( now i realized that [05:20] nmblookup comes from the samba suite [05:21] antiwire, thanks... [05:21] missyjane: I've been A+ certified for 10 years, can I make fun of it yet? ;) [05:22] antiwire, lol which year did you take it? [05:22] 2003 i assume? or the older ones? [05:22] ~2000 [05:22] missyjane, if there is absolutely nothing, not even the bios's screen, I'd bet on hardware failure (after having checked the PSU is on) [05:22] cause those were really easy, i got 100% on almost all of the practice test but 2006+ (and eventually 2009) are really hard [05:22] Camarade_Tux, which hardware can you guess? [05:22] missyjane, and the bios bips have a meaning so it'd be better to know the bips it does [05:23] antiwire, 2000? check out the 2006 one, its much much more difficult [05:23] the govt now requires folks in it working for the govt to have at least, entry level, a+ [05:23] missyjane, psu to mobo to cpu/drive/ram but I don't really have an idea [05:24] missyjane: if the system doesn't do anything and the PSU is good and the system has a modular power regulator (many servers do) I've check that. [05:24] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] plus power failures don't make surtensions here [05:24] lol you are close Camarade_Tux you said ram and cpu [05:24] the answer is ram [05:24] most likely the problem is ram [05:25] ApOgEE--: So...what did you do to get vouchers? [05:25] imho, *anything* can go wrong when there's an electrical problem [05:26] qartis (n=qartis@60.186.239.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:26] After power mishaps I've seen any number of crazy things happen [05:26] antiwire, $ nmblookup -A -T 10.1.1.57 returns ... No reply from 10.1.1.57 ... LOL [05:27] what's so funny? [05:27] antiwire, vouchers from shellium? [05:27] ApOgEE--: maybe it's not using netbios [05:27] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] there are a few tools that come with samba that can help you enumerate computer names and share names [05:28] Camarade_Tux, lol but they want a most likely, due to the fact that you want a good problem solver who reach to conclusion quick and not blindly guess [05:29] a step by step you can say [05:29] missyjane: ram/video will be the only answers since there's beeping but no screen [05:29] http://shellium.org/wiki/index.php5?title=Vouch_Voting_for_new_users_and_shellium_members [05:29] antiwire, i simply help with bash code to parse the 'last' output. then they vouch me. ;) [05:29] ApOgEE--: and man smbclient [05:30] looks at -L [05:30] alisonken1noc, you answered too late! bzzzzt!! [05:30] :D [05:30] alisonken1noc, wouldn't a fried cpu lead to bips too ? [05:30] Camarade_Tux, not really [05:30] or not likely [05:31] Camarade_Tux: cpu is what's setting the beeps. if the cpu is fried, then you won't get anything, let alone beeps [05:31] toasted cpu would lead to jack diddly [05:31] hmmm, wait, I've tried to boot my computer without a cpu once, I think I had boot display [05:32] I'll have to try again >< [05:32] lol [05:32] Camarade_Tux: the only display you would have without cpu would be either (a) monitor splash or (b) (not very likely) video card splash screens [05:32] Camarade_Tux, see why a+ is useful? :D im just depressed cause i keep failing it [05:32] they talk about this in the cert, i seriously dont understand how ppl can say its useless, imlearning tons of stuff from it [05:32] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-236045531993ea3d) joined ##slackware. [05:33] alisonken1noc, I think I had more display but I really don't remember well (that's why I want to try again ;p), maybe it was without the ram actually [05:33] missyjane: It's certainly not useless but in the realm paying jobs it's not a substitute for experience [05:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.116) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Camarade_Tux: no ram typically means beeping AND no splash screens. Typically, it's the bios (run by the CPU) that initiates non-monitor splash screens [05:34] antiwire, true, so true but you know, its better than NOTHING, nada, zilch [05:35] you know? :D [05:35] someone with experience + certification beats someone with experience OR certification [05:35] most times [05:35] phew.. so close to being kicked [05:35] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-eceece4030492871) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:36] can anyone think why would you need crypto in the install kernel? [05:36] passwords [05:36] obtaining the cert shows an interviewer that someone is capable of setting a short term goal going through from start to finish with the steps required to attain the goal [05:37] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [05:37] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:37] it also means they at least, at some point, knew the material [05:37] dusty: kernel crypto modules usually become shared encryption capabilities. Plus, kernel crypto modules can be used to access hardware encryption devices that software can use [05:38] antiwire, not really... it depends on cert, if you get say ccie, it certainly NOT a short term goal, ccie is a long term and difficult cret to achieve and all the ccie folks i met in #cisco as well as irl reallyr eally know their shit, like inside out [05:38] dusty: instlall kernel can also become the default kernel on the new install [05:38] missyjane: we're talking about a+ though [05:38] I've done a bunch of certifications though so I do know what you mean [05:39] antiwire, :D [05:39] missyjane, how much do you have to score to get it ? [05:39] almost nobody jumps to ccie (in fact i could say noone did) [05:39] Camarade_Tux, dont remmeber, i want 100% [05:39] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:39] so ppl go, a+, then network+, then maybe branch off and then ccna, then ccnp then ccie, that seems typical tho short and easy [05:40] i only met ONE guy who had all the cert, he had a+, net+, sec+, ccna (bunch of it, security ccna as well as voice) and ccnp, and ccie, as well as other things like sql and java cert [05:40] the dude made $350,000 a year with 20 hours week lifestyle [05:40] also had a college degree, masters in compsci [05:40] honestly, Why spend 2 years on certs when an associates degree will take the same time and be worth more in long term "points" than any set of certs? [05:41] doing both, i understand [05:41] i seriously never met an employer that values scollege degree more than say, a ccie lol [05:41] seriously, a ccie is quintessential to networking, its THE networking phd [05:42] the certs are only good 2 yrs [05:42] a degree in computer networking is much more flexible than some ccie [05:42] theres no expiration date on a+ and if you get a ccie you could say you are a former, you still know your stuff :x [05:42] no such thing as computer networking degree [05:42] im in ny, none of the suny OR cuny (state or city colleges) offer such a degree [05:42] and that says a lot [05:42] ... [05:42] its either computer science or information systems [05:42] anyone who studys can pass test [05:42] you cant just study and pass ccie... [05:43] alisonken1noc: thanks for the info. [05:43] missyjane: you're mistaken. [05:43] missyjane: I first obtained an associate of science in computer networking which was directly transferable to my BS [05:44] antiwire, which college? what country are you in? [05:44] and is it accreditted? if so by whom? [05:44] (college accreditation is NOT the same as course/class accreditation btw) [05:44] I'm in the US and an associates degree is a junior college level degree that is transferrable...I know..and I did clearly say DEGREE. [05:44] something most ppl didnt and dont know, kinda sad cause their degree is virtually useless [05:44] I did not say cert. [05:45] Trust me. I know what I worked for over two years. [05:45] degree has to be certified by outside source, not by college [05:45] its kinda hard,youre being vague lol [05:45] >< [05:45] It was a degree. [05:45] How am I being vague? [05:45] im trying to be as specific as i can get, with names [05:45] WHO gave you the degree? i dont know why you dont want to tell me which college you attended [05:46] looiuiouio (n=sixx@212.183.136.193) joined ##slackware. [05:46] look, ill give you an example, http://www.csab.org/ for example awards accreditation to harvard or mit computer science, those private college do NOT accredit their own course (who wouldnt say their own course is good?) [05:46] anyone got a link to setup auto mount on slack 12.2 [05:47] ieee computer society, acm, ais, as well as others all review the entire countrys colllege computer science, so if you go to your compsci department and ask to see if their courses are accreditted and its not, YOU ARE BEING RIPPED OFF [05:47] missyjane: do you mind if I PM you? [05:47] i dont mind [05:47] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [05:48] so csab does accreditation for compsci, infosys, software engineering, etc, basically it has to be confirmed, cause if employer were serious, theyd look into that, nto just "oh you went to college, come work for me" [05:48] hello, does anybody know why there is not any more the "any" interface on slackware 12.2? [05:48] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [05:48] or anyone tell me how to setup automount [05:48] they want to know you really know your crap, so ccie folks typically knwo their crap and their certification land them high paying jobs, youll never find a homeless ccie guy but you CAN find a homeless guy with a networking degree [05:48] dusty: np [05:48] tcpdump -D does not output it anymore and therefore it can't capture on it [05:48] sorry carry on i just wanted to set a few points straight [05:49] SCREW YOU SOLARIS!!!!! Why in the hell would you move /etc/init.d/samba to /etc/init.d/samba.old and create an empty file called /etc/init.d/samba?!?! NO-ONE TOLD YOU TO DO THAT YOU PICE OF SHIT! AAAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH [05:49] Action: Zordrak attempts to breathe [05:49] Action: missyjane quickly massages Zordrak [05:49] feel better,Zordrak? [05:49] lol [05:49] Action: alisonken1noc sends Zordrak an ice cold Henry Weinharts [05:50] It is hard when i have a network crumbling around my ears purely because of problems in Windows and Solaris... but it helps, thanks [05:50] lol, time to get the nicks you wanted ;p [05:50] (referring to christel's notice) [05:51] None of the slack boxes i put in place have had a problem... EVER... but Windows and solaris like to toy with my emotions [05:52] no one help with auto mount [05:52] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [05:52] Nick change: ApOgEE-- -> ApOgEE [05:52] Worst of all Im still relying on a Win2k3 box for site-wide authentication and something inside it has a memory leak causing it to run out of kernel inpage memory so its dying every 20 or so hours and i cant touch it remotely [05:52] missyjane: feel better now that you got that off your..umm chest? [05:52] Time to start looking at samba4! [05:53] chopp lol yes i got it off my chest [05:53] Nick change: ApOgEE -> ApOgEE- [05:53] on slackware 12.1 tcpdump -i any works, I've just checked, does anybody now why it does not on slackware 12.2? [05:55] Lalloso: probably a change in the kernel [05:56] or libpcap actually [05:56] mmm I suspect the pcap [05:56] ok [05:56] Lalloso: pcap [05:57] they changed it recently and no longer supports "any" interface, for good reason [05:57] dont know about 12.2 but it doesnt work on -current eitherl and -current is on libpcap v1.0.0 [05:57] you can patch the current release to support it or roll back [05:57] ah so [05:57] what jdog said.. ^ [05:57] pcap does not support it anymore officially? [05:57] correct [05:58] anyone know how setup automount ? [05:58] can you please point me to a link about this [05:58] why do you say for a good reason [05:59] I'm not expert at all but it was handy to get on a single snoop file both lo and eth0 :) [06:00] looiuiouio: what kind of automounting are you asking about? [06:01] cdrom [06:01] or usb [06:01] looiuiouio: man hald [06:01] k thanks [06:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.30.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [06:03] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) got netsplit. [06:03] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) got netsplit. [06:03] skr276 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) got netsplit. [06:03] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) returned to ##slackware. [06:04] not manyu people on simmons.freenode.net [06:04] *many [06:04] a laptop i'm using: NEC P8100 will load the Xwindow system on slackware properly, but it won't do it with ubuntu and other mainstream linux distributions. Instead the screen shows changing colours... Any Ideas why? What does slackware have in that respect that other distros don't? [06:04] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.29.105) joined ##slackware. [06:05] assuming that they both use approximately the same version of X [06:06] they all* [06:06] all the ones i tested* [06:06] I will have to patch libcap [06:06] not trying to do fancy stuff when it can't [06:06] sluxor, ^^ [06:06] sluxor, which graphic card ? [06:08] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) returned to ##slackware. [06:08] skr276 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) returned to ##slackware. [06:08] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) returned to ##slackware. [06:08] its a Nvidia 6200-equivalent [06:08] on windows it works when you install the Geforce 6xxx driver [06:08] same on linux [06:09] but with any distribution other then slackware i get a screen of changing colours [06:09] then when i switch to an external display it works regardless [06:09] of what distro im using [06:10] it's driving me nuts not knowing what the problem is... I don't think it's the card, since it works fine on one distro. The primary display works fine on slackware but not on any other distro. [06:11] sluxor, btw, don't write too many lines at once, write more on each line, you're pissing slackboy off :D [06:11] sluxor: are you using nvidias binary from their website or the driver that comes with whatever other distro? [06:12] sluxor, you'd need to check which driver is being used in xorg.conf : vga, vesa, nv, nouveau, nvidia [06:12] mmm maybe it's a bug and not a feature [06:12] http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1384627.html [06:12] Lalloso, I tried the latest Fedora as well, same issue as ubuntu. [06:12] iirc slackware will default to vesa which means maximum compatibility (without defaulting to vga either ;) ) [06:13] sluxor, check the output of 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf' [06:13] (won't work on fedora btw) [06:14] gah, I just typed 'gg' in firefox to reach the top of the page =/ [06:15] sluxor: that means a little bug in libpcap that's been corrected? [06:15] Drivers: kbd, mouse, synaptics and nv [06:15] on slackware [06:16] ah here it is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.tcpdump.devel/3609 [06:17] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-21555ad144bbe1e8) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [06:18] Lalloso, sluxor, you weren't talking about the same thing :) [06:18] sluxor, oh yeah, auto-configure so nv [06:19] also, I know slackware xorg-xserver is only 1.4 (when it could nearly be 1.6) because the newer releases were found not to be good enough [06:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-138-204.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:23] looiuiouio (n=sixx@212.183.136.193) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:24] oh no there's no slackbuilds script for tcpdump or libpcap :-\ [06:26] crap, I've been lied to ! [06:26] /mnt/sdb1/Data/slackware/slackware/slackware-current/source/n/tcpdump/tcpdump.SlackBuild [06:28] nathal (n=nathal@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:28] thx [06:31] woodoomagic1 (n=woodooma@79.101.132.112) joined ##slackware. [06:33] if it's in slack theres a slackbuild [06:33] thats what pat uses [06:39] Lalloso, sometimes a slackbuild will make multiple packages, especially if they're interrelated. [06:39] although often a parent slackbuild will call a child slackbuild [06:40] so need to look for slackbuilds on slackbuilds.org for packages in official slack [06:40] no [06:40] slackbuilds.org is for UNOFFICIAL [06:40] the official ones are in the slackware source [06:41] ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/source [06:41] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Although on rare occasions a slackbuild on sbo will get put into slackware. [06:42] in which case it becomes part of slack [06:42] must be rare since I haven't seen any official slack packages on sbo [06:43] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.28) joined ##slackware. [06:46] potion (n=potion@morphine.synapsia.org) joined ##slackware. [06:48] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:49] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.55.56) joined ##slackware. [06:49] potion (n=potion@morphine.synapsia.org) left ##slackware ("slackware"). [06:53] I've changed the code inside libpcap-1.0.0.tar.gz [06:53] now I guess the slackbuilds will complain about the signature [06:54] or maybe that's something I should check manually [06:55] axius1 (n=root@92.85.213.58) joined ##slackware. [06:56] Lalloso: the internal slackbuild doesnt check the signature [06:57] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [06:57] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A581.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:58] y0 [06:58] yoyo slackytude [06:58] alisonken1noc: MPlayer is an example [06:58] axius1 (n=root@92.85.213.58) left irc: Client Quit [06:58] this channel is a pit of slackware knowledge [06:58] a pit of doom as well [06:58] chopp: MPlayer, or MPlayer plugins? [06:58] wassup Camarade_Tux [06:58] Action: Zordrak golf claps for Sherlock [06:58] Camarade_Tux, still fighting with C and Ocalm? [06:59] alisonken1noc: well both I think. iw is another [06:59] slackytude, nah, just finished ! \o/ [06:59] (well nearly but the annoying part is over :) ) [06:59] great :D [06:59] In other news I can now use xchat from uni again! [07:00] screw mibbit [07:00] slackytude, http://git.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=ocaml-gir/ocaml-gir.git;a=commit;h=f5307faf0a7c790de97798578dca11030ac58833 :) [07:02] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-401ddd0f01def4e6) joined ##slackware. [07:03] axius (n=axius@92.85.213.58) joined ##slackware. [07:04] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:05] Darko (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-236045531993ea3d) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:05] slackytude: screw xchat [07:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [07:06] slackytude, nice :) [07:06] whats wrong with xchat? [07:06] insecure pointless pile of shite [07:06] lol [07:06] Action: missyjane quickly finds a new irc client [07:06] irssi [07:07] ok, it's 1pm, I have to be in school by 3:45pm, kick me out of here at 3:30pm or I'll never get there >< [07:07] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:07] ill stop giving you head like i did earlier if you go [07:07] err [07:08] if you DONT go [07:08] O_o [07:08] missyjane, ok, ok, I'll go ;p [07:08] Are you giving head for slackbuilds? [07:08] no [07:09] hmm... anyone else noticed an infinite loop on ksnapd? I press the print screen button more than twice or hold it briefly and the deamon keeps throwing up snapshot processes =S damn cheep keyboard has print screen next to delete and insert =o [07:10] Camarade_Tux, looks nifty [07:10] Camarade_Tux, automatic binding generator huh? [07:10] Zordrak, you mean mirc [07:10] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:10] slackytude: dieplskthx [07:10] Action: slackytude notes some keywords [07:10] giving head? [07:11] axius (n=axius@92.85.213.58) left irc: "Leaving" [07:11] yeah [07:11] sounds good [07:11] Action: slackytude orders some [07:11] $50 each head [07:11] how many did you order? [07:11] O_o [07:12] Action: slackytude checks his wallet [07:12] make that a glass of water, please [07:12] axius (n=root@92.85.213.58) joined ##slackware. [07:12] ok thats $3.50 [07:12] slackware69: head * | tail [07:13] heh [07:14] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:14] axius (n=root@92.85.213.58) left irc: Client Quit [07:15] kama_ (n=kama@host40-36-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:16] missyjane: lastnight you were talking about men and there testosterone problems, and tonight you're offering head. I dunno what happened, but I LIKE IT. :P [07:16] slackytude, yeah automatic binding generator : should enable ocaml programs to access all gtk libs [07:16] which includes webkit-gtk :) [07:16] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.55.56) left irc: [07:17] LOL [07:17] Action: Zordrak fixed the stupid windows server \o/ [07:17] Zordrak, you hammered it ? [07:17] with a sledge? [07:17] Camarade_Tux, nifty [07:17] unfortunately that was not an option [07:18] you put an Elder Sign on it? [07:18] that usually helps [07:18] or a picture of Pat ? [07:18] or did you only rebooted it ? :D [07:19] *reboot [07:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:19] and here I thought you _permanently_ fixed the windows server by replacing it with slack ;) [07:19] there were 10 print jobs waiting for a printer that has been taken offline.. and it was causing a memory leak in afd.sys as it was trying to connect to the printer and failing but not taking down any of the sockets it opened... a delete of the queue and a reboot of the spooler service and bingo.. inpage memory use reduced by 90% [07:19] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:19] alisonken1noc: I will.. i just need time [07:20] Zordrak, lol ^^ [07:20] alisonken1noc: im one man running this entire network on my omn [07:20] *own [07:20] Zordrak: how many systems? [07:20] iirc they are closed after some time, not sure how long ;p [07:20] Zordrak, eh [07:20] Camarade_Tux: after the memory runs out, by this indication :) [07:21] antoni (n=user@89.pool85-53-20.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [07:21] hi all [07:21] alisonken1noc, lol [07:21] Im going to submit something to thedailywtf today [07:21] alisonken1noc: 20-ish servers, 70 users with own desktops, 20 extra workstations of varying uses, 3 overseas offices, about 6 different operating systems [07:21] I remember having a similar problem some years ago : it wuld open and open and open connections ad eternam without ever closing them ;p [07:22] where can I download old version of Slackware (older than 10)? [07:22] slackware.no [07:22] antoni: most mirrors [07:22] Zordrak: sounds like it's time for some consolidation of O/S's :) [07:22] antoni: slackware.mirrors.tds.net [07:22] http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [07:23] antoni: tds.net has slackware back to 3.3 [07:23] slackware.no has 1.x :P [07:23] Camarade_Tux: doh! [07:23] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:23] alisonken1noc: i am.. all servers and services are being migrated to slack.. all boxes that are RH variants from fedora core 3 and rh7 to centos are being migrated to CentOS5 and all windows boxes are XPSP3 without exception [07:23] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-1.1.2 [07:24] thanks all [07:24] Zordrak: any particular reason for keeping centos? [07:24] before anyone says anything about the centos boxes i have no choice at the moment due to requirements for software that costs into 6 figures [07:24] ^^ [07:24] ok [07:24] that answers that one :) [07:25] I have an old PC. 150 MHz, 32 MB ram, 2GB Hdd. which version of Slackware do you recommend me? [07:25] im going blind T.T [07:25] although, I've successfully used centos binaries on slackware before [07:25] salck 10 should run fine [07:25] antoni: prolly 10.2 [07:27] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:31] hrm, guys how can I map a special key to a certain function e.g. when I press this button I want it to switch the screen lock on.. (I have a thinkpad, with the ThinkVantage blue button, it does nothing. I want to map it to lock my screen, had it working in ubuntu. Got no idea how to go about doing it in Slack). [07:31] heey [07:33] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) joined ##slackware. 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[07:56] evening [07:56] morning [07:57] sorry ;-] [08:02] midday'ning [08:02] greetings:) [08:03] hey hitest :) [08:03] Action: Camarade_Tux just finished cleaning the shower [08:03] Action: Camarade_Tux needs a wife [08:03] hi Camarade_Tux:) [08:03] you can have mine for a slight fee [08:04] j/k [08:04] gah =/ [08:04] lol [08:04] ill be your wife [08:04] you have to fill conditions tho [08:04] these are a sample list of conditions you have to fill [08:05] uh-oh [08:05] too bad I'm not Mormon :) [08:05] LOL [08:05] 1 - you have to never cheat on me, 2 - you gotta want kids, 3 - you have to like the things i like, like reading, playing wow, building computers, etc [08:05] i have more but most ppl dont fulfil one of these major three [08:05] lol [08:05] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:06] like some hate wow, some arent ready to have kids in the next 15 years, etc [08:06] missyjane, I'm ready for all 3 :) [08:06] missyjane, should be ok, can I code while you play wow ? :D [08:06] psh, you like building pc? i sell them on ebay whenever i get and build a complete set [08:06] Camarade_Tux, lol you dont like playing wow? :( [08:07] haven't played wow, but I have 4 kids already with at least 5 grandkids, I have spare computer parts dating back to pre-286 days, and I don't cheat on relationships (even when it was only a g/f) [08:07] but as I said - too bad I'm not mormon :) [08:07] D:... [08:07] grandpa? [08:07] yep [08:07] Axius (n=samyw@92.84.26.211) joined ##slackware. [08:07] grandpa!! :D [08:07] missyjane, I'd like, if I had the time to play it : I don't have much free time with all the coding ;p [08:07] my youngest son is 7, and he has nephews that are older than him [08:07] lol so you dont have time for me? D: [08:08] you have a big family alisonken1church [08:08] well, there's only 2 close enough to visit - they live in san diego [08:08] missyjane, of course I do :) [08:08] that's after that I don't have much time ;) [08:09] so I get to see them about every other month [08:10] alisonken1noc: nice to meet another slacker in here who is over 45:) [08:10] hitest: :) [08:10] had my over-the-hill party last year [08:11] awesome:) [08:11] and now I'm surrounded by racks and racks of debian machines :) [08:11] (desktop is still slack/slamd64) [08:12] server? my main desktop is a slack/freebsd dual boot. love it [08:12] amazon10x__ (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: "leaving" [08:12] servers [08:12] debian racks? [08:14] antoni (n=user@89.pool85-53-20.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:14] alisonken1noc, reminds me that last time I checked, my voss server was running a 2.4 kernel, and had ocaml insstalled ^^ [08:14] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:18] Camarade_Tux: 2.4 - which version of slack? [08:19] hitest: I work at a webhosting company [08:19] ah, cool! [08:20] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] hitest: if you're around enough, you may get to meet Old-Fogie - I think he's older than me [08:21] hence the nick ;) [08:21] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:22] alisonken1noc: yes. I've met Old_Fogie, he's a hard-core Slacker. great guy:) [08:22] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:22] hitest: hard-core - except for his interest in Gnome :) [08:22] heh-heh:) [08:23] alisonken1noc, whats the matter with gnone. :( sorry for asking.. [08:23] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [08:23] As of about 2 years ago, too much dependence on Mono [08:23] I like gnome on my daughter's debian box.........******hitest runs and hides******* [08:24] alisonken1noc, nah, not a slack, voss is where I'm hosted at dreamhost ;) [08:24] Pat dropped Gnome before then, though, because of too much involved in trying to keep the sources compilable within slackware standards [08:24] Camarade_Tux: doh! shows how much I'm still learning :) [08:24] i see [08:24] hitest, that's mean to your daughter :p [08:24] hehe [08:25] alisonken1noc, WHAT ? you don't know the name of all servers ? =P [08:25] Axius (n=samyw@92.84.26.211) left irc: "Leaving" [08:25] Camarade_Tux: well, if it's any indication, our equipment tagging numbers are in the 3xxx range :) [08:25] Nick change: NaCl -> NaCl__ [08:25] (tagging being inventory) [08:26] toast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [08:26] alisonken1noc, I knew it has rather high but didn't know it was *that* high [08:26] :p [08:26] Camarade_Tux: it runs Debian because of hardware issues (Compaq), tried slack, no go [08:26] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:26] hitest, quite surprising, it has always been the other way round with slackware supporting hardware better than any other distro [08:27] hitest: depends on how old the Compaq is - I gave up on Compaq ages ago due to hardware issues, not just slackware issues [08:27] Nick change: toast -> toastytoast [08:27] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Action: Camarade_Tux eats toastytoast [08:27] and all his clones ! [08:27] true, but, this box is flaky. I may replac it with something at some point [08:27] time to shower, have to leave in about one hour [08:27] replace [08:27] and HP buying out Compaq did _not_ improve the hardware, either [08:27] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:27] i feel bad for this guy who i built a computer for [08:28] everything was fine it was a nic machine [08:28] then he complained and said he wanted faster dialup [08:28] then he had someone else do someting to it [08:28] then he his machine overheated [08:28] faster dialup - is that like "military intelligence"? [08:29] faster dialup... lol [08:29] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.149.28) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:29] alisonken1noc: it is an AMD 850 MHz, it works fo now [08:29] for [08:29] i think the guy who is working on it now is playing him [08:29] sluxor (n=stefan@ppp174-87.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:30] Camarade_Tux: a good one for you - just as I was going off-shift yesterday (about 6am), a power supply in a filer died, which wouldn't have been a problem, but the power _strip_ that the second p/s was connected to died as well [08:30] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.29.105) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] hitest: well, I still have a 200MHz pentium box running as a router and main server at a previous job [08:31] alisonken1noc, hahaha :p [08:31] mice [08:31] nice [08:31] lol [08:31] well either way the guy know little abut computers and i believe ow he is being riped off all i can say is dumbass [08:31] hitest: both :) [08:31] my typing sux this am [08:31] LOL [08:32] Camarade_Tux: http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2009/06/08/spunky-cluster-outage/ [08:32] hitest, at least you are spelling "lol" ok :p ;) [08:32] true;) [08:32] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.2) joined ##slackware. [08:32] hehe [08:33] and "hehe" good man ;) lol [08:33] :) [08:33] axius (n=root@92.84.26.211) joined ##slackware. [08:34] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.40.233) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Nick change: NaCl__ -> SpanishInquisitr [08:34] bbiab, got to shower for work [08:34] later [08:34] How to install lynx ? [08:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:35] axius: use links [08:35] or sbo install elinks [08:35] axius, you download it from http://packages.slackware.it/ and then "installpkg lynx..." as root user [08:36] links ftw [08:36] High_Priest: DIE [08:36] yuou could prolly also use slackpkg install links [08:36] Do NOT recommend 3rd party binary packages in here [08:37] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Wich is the fastest ? [08:37] prolly bout the same actually [08:37] High_Priest: i apologise [08:37] High_Priest: not 3rd party there [08:37] :) [08:37] High_Priest: my bad [08:37] High_Priest: Having a tense day [08:38] apology accepted [08:38] np Zordrak [08:39] axius (n=root@92.84.26.211) left irc: "leaving" [08:39] half hour to go [08:40] alisonken1noc, on what? [08:40] till I go home, eat breakfast, and SLEEP [08:41] ok guys I've fixed my libpcap and tcpdump [08:41] Graveyard shift. :P [08:41] lol@slashdot : Swedish Anti-Piracy Lawyer Gets New Name 'Pirate' [08:41] I think that since libpcap has fixed the bug in "trunk" but not released it yet [08:41] we may have a "buggy" tcpdump also in upcoming slackwares [08:41] http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2593897&group_id=53067&atid=469577 [08:43] Lalloso: email pat about that? [08:44] do you think I should? I'm not sure [08:44] Lalloso, there is only one comment on that site.. and it says that a different solution has already been proposed ;) [08:44] besides what he could do? I think slackware by philosophy does never include "trunk" version [08:44] yes it is, i've downloaded the new master tree from libpcap git [08:44] and it works [08:45] Lalloso, so if it is already fixed there is no need then is there? [08:45] Lalloso: depends on if it's a security issue [08:45] it is fixed in libpcap trunk or master git as they know call it [08:45] I *think* that if a new stable release of libpcap does not come out [08:45] before the next slack [08:46] we'll get a "buggy" tcpdump/libpcap [08:46] but I think this is common for slackware when there are bugs into latest stable releases of the programs [08:46] i'm hopeing that when the next version of slack come out ati will have support for .29 in there drivers [08:46] Lalloso, well, you dont loose anything by sending an email ;) maybe he already done it ;) [08:46] The-Croupier: http://www.loseloose.com [08:47] Zordrak: doh! [08:47] hehe [08:47] okay I'll write to TheMan later [08:48] volkerdi at slackware . com? [08:48] Lalloso: info@slackware.com [08:48] right [08:48] Zordrak, lol [08:48] just make sure you use something like "tcpdump issue" in the subject [08:49] okay [08:49] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [08:49] axius (n=root@92.84.26.211) joined ##slackware. [08:50] gotta love salt water guys [08:50] axius (n=root@92.84.26.211) left irc: Client Quit [08:50] yepee ! I have enough clothes left for the whole week ! \o/ [08:51] Camarade_Tux: I bet that's what she said ;) [08:51] Zordrak, haha, that's the kind of errors french people would do ;) [08:52] (and that I used to do) [08:52] alisonken1noc, he, no, I'm all alone here ='( [08:52] (missyjane hasn't shipped yet -_- ) [08:52] Camarade_Tux: you did it at 13:46:39 GMT+1 [08:52] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:52] Zordrak, lol but I dont' believe you ;) [08:53] O_o [08:53] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [08:54] I don't want to believe I did it =/ [08:54] ah [08:55] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:59] Camarade_Tux: Rosie and her five friends, then? :) [09:01] alisonken1noc, haha but not right now ;) [09:01] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:01] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.6.175) joined ##slackware. [09:01] nachuo (n=gobo@122-124-136-91.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] btw, missyjane is a male [09:03] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2033 [09:03] jgor (i=jgor@r74-192-150-204.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:05] yeah.. what IS with all these female namen? [09:05] ok - time to head home. have a good one [09:06] bye alisonken1noc [09:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:07] time for me to go to school [09:07] bye Camarade_Tux [09:12] bye Camarade_Tux [09:12] y0 hitest [09:12] hiya slackytude:) [09:13] hitest, all fine with you? [09:13] yep.....all is well...I'm up to my armpits in paperwork, but, will be out of the woods in about 4-5 days:) oyu okay? [09:14] you [09:14] guys: could someone point me to a good source, where to read about vpn site to site nat port forwarding? [09:15] Action: The-Croupier tried google. :( got some really random results :( [09:15] www.openvpn.com [09:15] or org or whatever [09:15] hitest, Im on the last 30 days of this term, final exams are close, quite busy. but besides that, Im doing fine [09:16] Zordrak, how is openvpn working out for you? [09:16] poifectly [09:16] nifty. found a good managment app? [09:16] no.. not bothered [09:16] heh [09:17] slackytude: yes. this is my busy end-of-term report card time time as well. good to hear you are fine:) [09:17] Running on Slack64, been up 6 days, had multiple connected clients doing different things.. STILL only 86M RAM used [09:17] hitest, that does sound bothersome [09:18] Zordrak, so, how do you manage certs? bash all the way? [09:18] slackytude: yeah. tedious as hell, but, it will be over soon enough:) [09:19] yeah.. with easy-rsa and an established pki all i need to do is enter a uid twice and hit about 5 times [09:20] JohnHS (n=john@net-215.nrpn.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] aye. gotta love the KISS. [09:20] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [09:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.6.175) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:23] hello all [09:23] hello [09:24] is anyone here running slackware-current? [09:24] many [09:24] does your xfig work? [09:24] and slackware64-current [09:24] mine keeps crashing :( [09:24] no [09:25] warks on 64 [09:25] not 32 [09:25] xfig doesn't work on 32? [09:25] no [09:26] hrmm [09:26] any particular reason why? [09:26] or just some bug needing to be fixed [09:26] *** glibc detected *** xfig: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08214b90 *** [09:26] i dont know why.. just doesnt.. but works on 64 [09:26] yep [09:26] that's the one [09:27] i tried compiling from source [09:27] unless someone else can advise why id email info@slackware.com -- they might not know [09:27] and it was able to load the gui but crashed whenever you click on anything [09:27] hrmm [09:27] ok [09:27] thanks for the input [09:28] JohnHS (n=john@net-215.nrpn.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [09:29] chenfengyuan (n=chenfeng@122.224.220.161) joined ##slackware. [09:29] .. [09:29] lol i havent shipped yet? [09:29] and who are you thrice`? 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[09:32] chenfengyuan (n=chenfeng@122.224.220.161) left irc: Client Quit [09:33] Consider the info@ address a spam trap :-) If you are unable to find the proper address then you've failed the secret initiation test [09:34] orite [09:35] I never bothered to consider a better address.. was following the good boy rules :) [09:35] Zordrak, slackware and good boy?!! wierd combination that ;) ;P [09:37] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:37] Nick change: Aldaron_ -> Aldaron [09:38] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:38] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:38] alienBOB: i assume then there are no aliases, just unix uids [09:38] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:41] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.152) joined ##slackware. [09:43] there are so many encryption algorithms, im lost... aes,des,3des,gpg,blowfish and blowwhatever... which one is considered to be a little harder to decrypt? [09:43] there are sooo many..and all of them seem to have their ups and downs.. [09:43] vpn, use blowfish [09:43] its the default and its good for the purpose [09:43] Zordrak, i see... [09:44] i have to create some nat port forwarding rules aparently [09:44] never done that before. ;) [09:44] other purposes have other defaults as the algo depends on the purpose [09:44] you need one rule [09:44] udp/1194 iirc [09:44] Zordrak, lol ;) [09:44] and deny all after that ;) [09:45] hm how can i make slackware boot faster? [09:45] or in under 10 seconds, is that possible? [09:45] Hi Tom [09:45] deny all should be your deyault policy anyway [09:45] Edit the init scripts [09:45] missyjane: disable services you dont need [09:45] already did that [09:45] Edit the init scripts [09:45] /etc/rc.d [09:45] where would i find said init scripts? [09:45] >.< [09:45] If you have to ask, you have no business doing it [09:45] /etc/rc.d/rc.M [09:46] oh alright [09:46] straterra, nice one ;) like that quote [09:46] i dont have rc.M [09:46] uhh [09:46] missyjane, check in rc.d/ [09:46] most things are -x anyway [09:47] missyjane: if you dont have rc.M you dont have slackware [09:47] lol [09:47] i thought it was a folder sorry [09:47] _daniel- (n=knoppix@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] <_daniel-> .. [09:47] s/folder/directory/ [09:47] _daniel- (n=knoppix@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:47] :( [09:47] folder is a windows term [09:47] i thought it was an interchangeable word [09:47] busted!!! [09:48] noone ever corrected me [09:48] Action: Zordrak just did [09:48] good :D [09:49] lots of hate this morning tho [09:49] not hate.. terse correction [09:49] like when training a dog [09:49] whoppix (n=whoppix@ti0021a380-dhcp1324.bb.online.no) left irc: Connection timed out [09:50] lol im not a dog... [09:50] :( [09:50] Action: missyjane barks [09:51] Action: Zordrak does not offer scooby snacks until you reach grade 7 slackdog [09:51] ;_; [09:52] Zordrak, damn man.. you are really having a rough day ;) :) [09:53] ive been in the channel for around 6hours now..and havent seen you calm yet.. [09:54] Action: The-Croupier hands Zordrak a beer, some wafles, and a 6ft blonde to make him relax a bit [09:54] Action: The-Croupier runs [09:54] woodoomagic1 (n=woodooma@79.101.132.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] 6 feet? [09:54] thats far too tall [09:54] cut her head off [09:54] and youll have me, 5 feet [09:54] s/beer/Magner's/ [09:54] s/waffles/SIrloin steak/ [09:54] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@79.101.132.232) joined ##slackware. [09:55] headless blonde?! no thanks:) [09:55] s/6ft blonde/Zordrak's missus/ [09:55] lol i mean cut 1 feet off [09:55] okay [09:56] hitest, hahah [09:56] my missus is 5'10" and thats just about perfect [09:56] heey [09:56] better no feet than no head right ;) lol [09:56] :) [09:56] The-Croupier: =) [09:56] greetings tewmten [09:56] ;) hows it going? [09:56] gooood [09:57] Any of you use any kind of split screen with screen? [09:57] straterra: only [09:57] straterra: only occasionally [09:57] The-Croupier: the doc gave me new painkillers.. im smooooth sailing [09:57] =D [09:57] hi BP{k} ! [09:57] BP{k}: is the man page a good document on how to configure/use that? [09:57] bbl [09:57] oh hai2u straterra [09:57] tewmten, hahaha that smooth sailing , reminded me of "zohan" the movie ;) silky smooth hair ...etc lol [09:57] Hi [09:58] The-Croupier: yeah.. heh [09:58] The-Croupier: my g/f is crazy about that movie haha [09:58] she has made me watch it too many times :S [09:58] do you guys know each other irl? [09:59] straterra: I always set it manually, never from screenrc. ^A-S to create the split, ^A- to switch to the new and empty workspace .. ^A-C to create a new instance. [09:59] I see the manpage mentions "C-a S" [09:59] tewmten: howdy! [09:59] I see [09:59] The ^A-S thing..thats CTRL+a+-+s, right? [09:59] and "^a X" to destroy any empty workspace you no longer need. [10:01] "^a" == Ctrol + A :P [10:01] Right..I get that hehe [10:01] What does the -S mean? [10:01] After the control a? [10:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] hm crap.. i messed up pam on a box.. [10:01] will pam now sue you for mistreating her? ;-) [10:02] haha [10:02] it doesnt accept the root pass now [10:02] BP{k}: They may take away parental rights! [10:02] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:02] erh.. [10:02] K_Wolf (n=f13@platao.superfamilia.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:02] K_Wolf (n=f13@platao.superfamilia.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:02] it doesnt accept the root user lol [10:02] stupid winbind [10:03] it looks like its not possible to get below 10 seconsd in boot :( [10:03] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] missyjane: its possible [10:03] missyjane: but requires more work than you may yet be capable of [10:04] missyjane: for a start you need to superstrip your kernel [10:04] oh well its just a test system anyway [10:05] Zordrak, why superstrip the kernel?! :( it takes away his manhood :( [10:05] missyjane, what is the deal for less than 10 secs... it does boot in less than 30anyway..:( what is the point... [10:05] The-Croupier, the faster the better imo... [10:06] cause Tux is a fat little bastard and you need to put him on a diet if you plan to enter him into the olympics [10:06] missyjane, old known computer problem time and usability dont go very well together [10:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.195) joined ##slackware. [10:06] the faster you create/boot/do somthing... the worst it will end up being [10:06] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:07] get windows as an example... made really fast, its takeing them more than 20years to fix [10:07] LOL Zordrak... dont say that.. [10:07] missyjane, the faster the better doesnt go in boot time.. "i hope", it goes after you are in ;) [10:07] The-Croupier: uhhh exactly when do you think windows "became fast"? [10:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Zordrak, windows was fast [10:08] when it was in the dos version :p [10:08] pshaw [10:08] it still boots to login screen pretty fast [10:10] madbear, what does? [10:10] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] The-Croupier: windows, doesnt it? [10:10] the few times ive tried i thinked so [10:11] madbear, you still running dos? :p [10:11] ok this mkaes perfect sense [10:11] cos my brothers vista sure as hell doesnt, and none of the windows ive seen so far [10:11] so i have the perfect os... [10:11] i guess i wont be upgradeing until slackware 15 come out or something [10:11] there is nothing i cant do with this system [10:12] The-Croupier: vista beats major linux dists in boot time [10:12] missyjane, you cant find my phone number :p [10:12] >.>... [10:12] can i have your phone number?.. [10:12] madbear, i dont think so... but i dont have time to argue either..hope someone else will probe you wrong [10:13] missyjane, find it with your perfect OS :P [10:13] lol :( dont be mean... [10:13] Action: The-Croupier feels so good turning girls down ;) lol [10:13] ;_;... [10:13] hing (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:13] god damnnit... must remember not to mount remote dirs into my home dir which gets rsynced for backup [10:13] i really have to go now.. my gf is coming back ;) have a nice day everybody... see you tommorrow [10:14] bye bye [10:14] missyjane, nice to meet you [10:14] ;) [10:14] The-Croupier: i wont argue, my lfs boots alot faster than ububububu.. what was it again? :P [10:14] cu [10:14] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:14] Action: Zordrak noods to rsync with -x maybe [10:15] rsync <3 [10:17] -xx in fact [10:18] now up to "rsync -avxxe ssh --exclude '*.vdi'" far automated backups of this workstation [10:18] *for [10:19] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:19] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [10:20] oo [10:21] with -xx i can re-add /mnt [10:22] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Action: Zordrak continues to learn something new every day [10:22] hi all [10:23] me too [10:23] Zordrak, how much to pay you to teach me everything you know? [10:23] More than you have [10:23] :( [10:24] it's a parts AND labour job [10:24] the parts are expensive.. the labour is extortionate [10:24] lol :'(....... you too huh [10:24] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:25] Zordrak: s/ extortionate/extorrionist/ :) [10:25] Zordrak, lol [10:25] aka: blackmail [10:25] alisonken1church: uhh... extortionate was right [10:26] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:26] you take the fun out of it [10:30] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@blackhole.cyberlinktech.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] can i pm you for a sec alisonken1church? [10:31] both girly named boys together? [10:32] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-30-231.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:35] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-401ddd0f01def4e6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-30-231.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [10:35] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] hing (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:38] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-4fab60b670e5ff35) joined ##slackware. [10:38] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: "leaving" [10:38] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:39] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:41] chipster (n=chipster@66.191.139.146) joined ##slackware. [10:46] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [10:51] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7B6B.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [10:52] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [10:52] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.40.4) joined ##slackware. [10:59] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [11:00] off to work:) see you later:) [11:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] wait [11:01] about how much gb does a full install of slackware take again? about 20gb right? [11:01] later hitest [11:01] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:05] uhhh... no [11:06] how big? [11:07] I would say 7GB maybe? [11:07] 6.5ish [11:07] maybe less [11:08] also depends on your filesystem [11:08] in terms of size on disk [11:08] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.82) joined ##slackware. [11:08] wtf... [11:08] work is almost done [11:08] my home folder is about 22gb, i used 40gb, where does that leave the rest? [11:08] now I can go to uni again :( [11:09] missyjane: du -hs /* [11:09] How to set up ssh on slackware? [11:09] its in slackware [11:09] axius: read the docs [11:09] axius: /subject [11:09] you mean /topic ? [11:09] uhhh [11:09] yeah [11:10] brainfade [11:10] ^-^ [11:10] brcain trying to persuade me to forego the gym [11:10] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.82) left irc: Client Quit [11:10] Action: slackytude goes off [11:11] gotta go to uni [11:11] cya laterz slackers [11:11] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A581.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.82) joined ##slackware. [11:11] later slackytude [11:11] wow perfect command [11:12] missyjane: which command? [11:12] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [11:12] grekkos: du [11:12] oh :) [11:12] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-142f48533f57c53f) joined ##slackware. [11:12] du is awesome [11:12] it does its job [11:12] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [11:13] im doing it in su [11:13] why does it show du: cannot access `/proc/11207/task/11207/fd/3': No such file or directory? [11:13] cause its not really a file [11:13] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] holy **** [11:13] 9.6gb in /tmp [11:13] there y'are [11:14] axius (n=axius@92.82.77.82) left irc: Client Quit [11:14] du -hs /tmp/* | grep G [11:14] not finished yet [11:14] suffice it to say thats where your problem is [11:15] just ^c out oy the current one and delve deeper [11:15] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.22) joined ##slackware. [11:15] axius (n=root@92.82.77.82) joined ##slackware. [11:15] why? i wanna see all of it [11:15] :D [11:15] actually ill just run another du, im on quad core anyway... [11:15] you're the one who couldnt wait more than 10s for slack to boot :) [11:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:16] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-244-46-30.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] lol i cant.. :X [11:16] i have a quad core, i want things to be ZOOM [11:17] axius (n=root@92.82.77.82) left irc: Client Quit [11:17] 4.5G /tmp/SBo [11:17] whats SBo? D: [11:17] I hope that is your box, and noone gave you access or something [11:17] for the love of god [11:17] If you only reboot once a month, what does it matter how long it takes to boot up if it's reasonable? [11:18] higuita7 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Network is unreachable [11:18] alot of people turn their PC off at night [11:18] :(.. im getting scared now [11:18] youve installed a shitload of stuff from slackbuilds and yet you dont know what SBo means [11:18] higuitas (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:18] oh [11:18] that was a long time ago tho [11:18] slackbuild :D [11:18] that i remember now [11:18] then it's hardly a *fresh* install... [11:18] noone said it was D: [11:19] you suggested it was by your suprise to find the answer to your question: [11:19] 16:01:01 < missyjane> about how much gb does a full install of slackware take again? about 20gb right? [11:19] because i did df -h [11:20] and saw that i have 90% used up [11:20] has anyone else experienced the installation of slack 12.2 seeming to freeze until activity is generated in another console? [11:20] rtcg: never [11:20] i dont do df -h oftne.. every once in a hwile [11:20] often / while [11:20] rtcg: hm, definitely not. a fresh install ? [11:20] Fresh install, [11:20] missyjane: nagios constantly polls my disk space and sends me an SMS if it breaches Warning or Critical level [11:21] has happened on more than one fresh install. Maybe bad install disk. [11:21] from factory [11:21] as well as SMART data and disk temperature [11:21] rtcg: or bad destination disk or bad RAM [11:21] rtcg: but likely bad source [11:21] rtcg: try putting the source on disk first or using NFS or FTP install [11:22] rtcg: what package? During installation of gutenprint? Or bind? [11:22] see if it makes any diff in an identical environment [11:23] wow [11:23] :D cool [11:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-144-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:23] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@blackhole.cyberlinktech.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] ok [11:23] gonna delete everything in /tmp *gulp* [11:23] rm -rf /tmp [11:23] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [11:23] no [11:23] >., [11:23] i wont [11:23] * >.< [11:23] D: what do i do then? [11:24] rm -r /tmp/SBo [11:24] or [11:24] rm -r /tmp/SBo/* [11:24] aw [11:24] but there are bunch of stuff in /tmp i dont need, they are all flash [11:24] axius (n=root@92.82.77.82) joined ##slackware. [11:24] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:24] then delete them... but if youre gonna delete ALL of temp I only recommend it during shutdomn [11:25] *shutdomn [11:25] higuita5 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:25] o [11:25] how come? [11:25] oh y ikes [11:25] i see it now [11:25] alienBOB: Various packages. Fetchmail, now getmail. It's just REALLY slow. I'll try the cd-to-disk THEN install thing. [11:25] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host163-81-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:26] oh, I thought you meant after it's been installed rtcg. I have noticed it hang with one in the past, but that's since been fixed in -current :\ [11:27] thrice`: it is the installation process that is hanging..or pausing for LONG periods. I alt-f2 to another terminal and generate activity that seems to wake up the install process. [11:28] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-26-103.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:29] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] rtcg: that almost smacks of entropy.. but isnt appropriate in this case... you definitely need to rule out the install media and your CD drive [11:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:30] missyjane: having fun? ;D [11:30] missyjane: you see what? [11:31] Zordrak, see why i shouldnt just remove all of /tmp [11:31] good [11:31] grekkos, just trying to clear out useless tuff [11:31] stuff [11:31] higuita5 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:31] you can do... just not while everything is running and you're not in a shutdown process [11:31] the error follows the install media (and the slackware version :) ) [11:31] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-4fab60b670e5ff35) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] bye [11:31] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left irc: "leaving" [11:32] rtcg: sounds aboot right [11:32] so its safe to at least delete everything in /SBo right? [11:32] yes [11:32] bleh i wonder why it didnt bother removing itself [11:32] hence /tmp/SBo/* [11:32] what is SBo anyway? [11:32] higuita5 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:32] i doesnt because it shouldnt [11:32] it's up to you to delete what you dont want [11:32] slackpkg clean-system i should do this [11:32] because you did /* [11:33] grekkos: http://slackbuilds.org [11:33] missyjane: if you did rm -rf /tmp/SBo it would remove the folder also [11:33] missyjane: no it shouldnt [11:33] missyjane: it might.. but it shouldnt [11:33] lol the clean-system might get rid of other useless stuff tho [11:34] and delete ALL of your SBo installed stuff [11:36] Zordrak: so in short, it's just the slackbuilds tmp dir? [11:36] yup [11:36] oooh df -h says I have 142M in there [11:37] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.83.117) joined ##slackware. [11:37] you dont have much stuff i assume? [11:37] what do you use your computer for anyway? :p [11:37] hi, just installed slackware. unable to get X. [11:38] how do i post error here. i'm on irssi [11:38] startx? [11:38] oh [11:38] did that and got error. i have the error output file. [11:38] but don't know how to post it from CLI. [11:38] post error? pastebin.com [11:39] oh [11:39] hm.. [11:39] pastebin.ca better [11:39] use links [11:39] yea .ca is better, type out the error? give us a big idea least [11:39] paste into links the web browser [11:40] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.108) joined ##slackware. [11:40] wait.. will try pastebin.ca [11:40] saivin: try `Xorg --configure` first anyway [11:41] BTW - what everyone here didn't mention yet about "rm -rf /tmp/*" except on powerup/down is that X uses pipes in /tmp - if you remove those files while logged into GUI can hose your current desktop [11:41] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [11:42] I tried that and tested but it tries to start but comes back to console. [11:43] meanwhile, not able to upload errorfile.. [11:43] saivin: have you run the xorgsetup (i think... the ncurses looking one) [11:43] interesting note. The install paused again and I just hit the backslash key and it's installing like a banshee! (How do banshee's install?) [11:43] ok, will try xorgsetup, wait [11:43] saivin: you should be able to add a file to pastebin.ca direct from the FS using links [11:44] how? [11:45] grekkos: funny, i'm trying 'xorgsetup' as root and it says 'Only root can configure X' [11:45] using thu Upload a File link [11:45] O_o [11:45] saivin: it has to be run as root [11:45] saivin: sudo xorgsetup if you have your sudoers setup properly [11:45] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.2) joined ##slackware. [11:45] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.40.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:45] grekkos: yes as root not even after su [11:45] directly logged in as root and tried [11:46] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.223) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Action: slackytude bäck [11:46] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:46] wb [11:47] saivin: found the link? [11:47] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] hmm 776M left on / [11:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.164.108) joined ##slackware. [11:48] I found the link but what should i type? file:///home/saivin/xerror says cannot find [11:48] /home/saivin/xerror [11:48] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:48] ok will try that [11:48] unsurprisingly [11:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:49] axius (n=root@92.82.77.82) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:49] higuitas (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:50] can u check 1453797? not sure if thats mine :? [11:50] uh [11:51] "The_Flames IS GAY LOL" [11:51] Nooooooooo :( [11:52] pardon me.. :) [11:52] lol :x [11:52] wtf is expect. [11:52] "whoops wrong file" [11:52] haha [11:52] slackytude: man expect [11:52] yeah, but wtf [11:52] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:53] is that still used? [11:53] slackytude: uh.. yeah [11:53] O_o [11:53] oh, so its just me being ignorant again [11:53] nvm [11:53] yes [11:53] take a hint will ya! :D [11:54] i can see my post now. but the number :? [11:54] in the url [11:54] at the top of the page [11:54] etc [11:54] me java coder mate send me email marked urgent with a cry for help to get a expect script to run [11:55] no its only, uploaded file accepted (p1 of p5) [11:55] read more [11:55] ohwait [11:55] java expect or bash expect or python expect or perl expect or ? ..... :) since it's your java mate, I expect it's java expect [11:56] have you actually *submitted* it? [11:57] well that sucked. in order to get my logitech webcam to work had to d/l the uvc drivers and compile. it just worked at the office, but that machine has slamd64 12.2 - the house had 12.1 and the laptop has 12.0 [11:58] Action: alisonken1church wonders what I'd have to do to get it to work on the other machine that's running 8.0 :) [11:58] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.83.117) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:58] back ! =) [11:59] alisonken1church: animal sacrifice [11:59] Dominian: "Bring out the goats!" and I don't mean _for_ the farmer [11:59] hehe [12:00] Dominian: just checked this morning on bishop - noobfarm only uses 4G? [12:00] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.116) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] alisonken1church: that's everything [12:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.241) joined ##slackware. [12:01] alisonken1church: thats everything that was on that VPS [12:01] cool [12:01] I would have thought it would take ore [12:01] saivin (n=saivin@122.166.89.202) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Action: Camarade_Tux uses 7GB including his home [12:01] s/ore/more/ [12:01] right now I have noobfarm/slackadelic with vital services running on a VM at home for now.. fuzz is workin gon getting my vps going as I type this [12:01] hi, i got disconnected.. [12:01] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-142f48533f57c53f) left ##slackware. [12:01] ew [12:01] VESA(0): Failed to set-up write-combining range [12:01] that is the error [12:02] saivin: too late for me.. home time [12:02] ta ta [12:02] someone mentionned "mtrr" ? [12:02] hmm - we run a ton of vps's. guess I'll have to read up more on vps's [12:02] =P [12:02] alisonken1church: they are very nice man... [12:02] my system takes 2.5GB :) [12:02] alisonken1church: just a way of giving someone a "machine" without giving them actual hardware :) [12:02] wait, 8GB actually but that's with lots of toolchains [12:02] and I was able to perfect my grsecurityp olicy through all this [12:02] Tc Zordrak. anybody else, who can help? [12:02] so its a win-win situation [12:03] i'm unable to start X with startx [12:03] Dominian: yep - you should see some of the names they give kernels we use :) [12:03] hehe [12:03] yeah [12:03] Dominian, nifty [12:03] alisonken1church: What does bishop run anyway? [12:03] the error is VESA(0): Failed to set-up write-combining range [12:03] Dominian, write a Howto :P [12:03] alisonken1church: I see its running grsec [12:03] slackytude: hahaha [12:03] slackytude: that would be a freakin' book [12:03] :) [12:03] lol [12:03] the main thing I have to tell you is: permissions [12:04] tell me about it [12:04] KNOW what your filesystem permissions need to be.. that is the KEY to moving your stuff from one place to another [12:04] Dominian: Linux bishop 2.6.29-xeon-aufs2.29-grsec [12:05] other than that - I believe it's gentoo based [12:05] Dominian, regarding grsec? [12:05] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Dominian: sorry - s/gentoo/debian/ [12:06] saivin (n=saivin@122.166.89.202) left irc: "leaving" [12:06] debian 4.0 base [12:07] with updates/local hacks [12:10] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:10] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:10] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:10] dusty must be having issues :) [12:11] time for sleep - cya [12:13] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:1ad) joined ##slackware. [12:15] dusty_ (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:17] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Greetings everyone. :) [12:18] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [12:18] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-29-72.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] howdy [12:19] Hi Plee [12:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:20] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [12:20] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [12:22] such a nice day.. sunny outside, and I have nothing to do :) [12:22] firebird619: howdy. how a's tricks? [12:22] y0 firebird619, BP{k} [12:22] firebird619, tried the button, got a nice setup now [12:23] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.161.141) joined ##slackware. [12:23] slackytude: olas :) [12:23] Action: slackytude waves [12:24] Action: init[1] was messed up with SMPS blast ! :( [12:24] howdy BP{k}, doing great (nothing much going on, weather's dreary/rainy again), thanks. yourself? [12:24] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [12:25] firebird619, university is bugging me. all else is fine. how about you? [12:25] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7B6B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] doing great, thanks. [12:25] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [12:26] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] hrm [12:27] Kate is nice for printing sourcecode [12:28] 1,/for printing sourcecode/d [12:28] I just think kate is nice :P [12:29] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [12:29] I hate kate! [12:30] I still like vim for editing sourcecode [12:30] then again maybe it's better than lpr [12:30] I've never used it before [12:30] firebird619: not too bad :) doing some bashscripting. [12:30] higuita5 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [12:30] higuita5 (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:31] wassup slackers [12:32] heya dtanner. How's it going? [12:32] Geany is reasonably nice as well to work with. :) [12:32] I've used geany before, and until now had forgotten about it. [12:32] geany is very nice :) [12:32] s/geany/vim/ [12:33] oh, sorry, :s/geany/vim/ >< [12:33] y0 Camarade_Tux. How's it going? [12:33] hey firebird619 :) [12:33] nice, you ? [12:33] hello firebird619 , going good , yourself ? [12:33] doing great, thanks guys. :) [12:33] y0 dtanner [12:33] sup slackytude [12:35] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [12:36] init[1] (n=init[1]@116.68.97.165) joined ##slackware. [12:36] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] dinner ! \o/ [12:39] Camarade_Tux: more flies? :P [12:40] whoever recommended rTorrent yesterday, this was the app i was looking for [12:41] rtorrent is nice [12:41] yeah [12:41] I used it a long time ago [12:42] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7B6B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [12:44] does anyone know of a good slackware blogger? [12:44] ME [12:44] MUAHAHA [12:44] missyjane: what do you mean? [12:44] Hey missyjane, how are you doing? [12:44] Hi Dominian, how's it going? [12:45] Action: Dominian is doing fine.. how about you firebird619? [12:45] doing great, thank you. :) [12:46] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Where can I find free music? I mean really free! [12:47] Like GPL music. [12:47] pri4pus, sure you are in the right channel? [12:47] :-) [12:47] in the internet! [12:47] jamendo? [12:47] slackytude: There is a special channel for this? [12:48] pri4pus, no, but there is a special channel for slackware [12:48] BP{k}: That is true, but maybe you know a special place. Because I have no idea even how to search for this. [12:48] :-) [12:49] There is a #music channel btw. [12:49] grekkos, can i see your blog? :) [12:49] 35 people there [12:49] firebird619: Yhank you! [12:49] Dominian, i want to see what a slackware, kernel, or generally speaking what smart people talk about [12:49] cause i want to write a blog but cant think of anything to write, plus i want to see what kind of stuff they use for their portfolio [12:49] ... [12:49] www.surrealgirl.com is my site and all of the fancy stuff is offline, i plan to upload once i have the cool stuff won [12:50] missyjane, werent you here some weeks/months ago with that blog idea as well? [12:50] down* [12:50] yeah, I remeber that [12:50] slackytude, give or take but never uploaded [12:50] it was always on the back burner cause i was awlays busy doing different stuff [12:51] slackytude: Slackware is free, so must the music be! :-) [12:51] pri4pus, do a reality check [12:53] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:54] missyjane: planet.slackadelic.com [12:54] Arirang (n=koolaid@pool-96-225-224-213.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:54] checking [12:56] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [12:57] I remeber this ayaz dude [12:58] freebse (n=freebse@g226141111.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:59] missyjane: that's just a collection of some of the slackware related blogs I know about [12:59] :D i love it, ty [12:59] np [12:59] slackytude: There is something: http://www.jamendo.com/en/ yuuuuuhoooo [13:01] hmm [13:01] there's a program to play video in screen??? [13:02] mplayer??? [13:02] http://omploader.org/vMXIybg this looks like it's in the terminal window [13:02] Mplayer with caca! :-) [13:02] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Success [13:02] caca? [13:02] google? [13:02] Yes, cacalib! [13:02] oh [13:02] hahaha [13:02] there;ss aimilar vlc plugin [13:02] oh thiis slagging my computer [13:03] What? [13:03] cacademo [13:05] freebse (n=freebse@g226141111.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] it looks like my rtorrent download has come to a halt [13:07] Why? [13:08] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [13:08] no ide [13:08] heh " [13:08] I love the smell of Free Software in the morning" [13:08] oops [13:08] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [13:09] dusty_ (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [13:10] yeah, don't google for caca, only for libcaca... [13:11] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.223) left irc: ":wq" [13:11] grekkos, and that's not in a terminal window, it's in a tiling window manager, that's it ;p [13:11] Camarade_Tux: oh okay, I thought the link said "screen" screenshot or something to that extent [13:12] =) [13:12] nvision (n=nvision@g229169098.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:12] hmm [13:12] looks like maybe ion they're using there in that ss. [13:13] and has anyone recently played with colinux ? I thought I could be nice to schoolmates and prepare them a vbox drive loaded with linux (slack of course) but that's faaaar too easy and I'd like to play with colinux ;p [13:13] never heard of it [13:13] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] i think I needed to open some ports on my router for the torrent :( [13:13] slackytude, runs linux as a user process on windows :) [13:13] Camarade_Tux, eww [13:14] grekkos, OF COURSE YOU DO ! [13:14] I just found out about seamlessrdp, tho. now thats nifty! [13:14] well I thought I did but maybe it was only for my other machine [13:14] I just recently swapped out my rouer [13:14] router [13:14] slackytude, colinux is using slack :) [13:14] you dont need to open ports, it will just be slow as fuck [13:14] is there a terminal browser that supports javascript? [13:14] (well, there is some ubuntu bastard thing but that one has to sucks by definition) [13:15] slackytude: yeah but it disconnected from everyone and won't connect to anyone now for download [13:15] Camarade_Tux, well, thats slightly better than eww, but not much [13:15] grekkos, that's antithetic [13:15] R: 0.00 [13:15] slackytude, really ? I have to make something for you to try by tonight then ;p [13:15] Camarade_Tux: unfortunately I can't log into my router withou javascript [13:15] http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdotIt/~3/ezwg39VE9lE/Security-Flaw-Hits-VAserv-Head-of-LxLabs-Found-Hanged [13:16] oh, actually linux doesn't run as a user process (that's user mode linux and that's different) [13:16] Camarade_Tux: it uses some strange password hashing/encryption as you type it in so people looking over your shoulder won't guess the password (?? useless feature) [13:16] VampirePenguin, heard about that. funky shit [13:16] i know... [13:16] grekkos, yeah, just MITM and you have the password >< [13:16] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [13:16] grekkos, maybe it has a telnet interface [13:17] "coLinux is being ported to run under ReactOS, a standalone Open Source Windows implementation. " ^^ [13:17] 200% useless ;p [13:17] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hehe [13:18] Camarade_Tux: oh, you may be on to something. Apparently this router is linux based. [13:19] many are [13:19] hmm, telnet failed to connect [13:19] maybe ssh? [13:19] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:19] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [13:20] grekkos, check the doc, the port may be non-standard [13:20] or just port-scan your router ^^ [13:21] haha [13:22] or I can simply do nothing and point people to topologilinux : http://www.topologilinux.com [13:22] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-186-213-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:23] so seamless rdp makes it possible to run just a single application in a rdesktop session? [13:24] i'd basically put an extra 'start menu' in my fluxbox for all the apps installed on the windows box? [13:25] HoldMyPocket, yes it does [13:25] HoldMyPocket, well, yeah you could [13:25] HoldMyPocket, gonna try it tomorrow [13:25] just heard about in #windows-server [13:25] i jsut heard about it in here lol [13:26] I like to spread rumors ^-^ [13:26] Camarade_Tux: will port scanning the router actually work? what do I use nmap? [13:26] brb, reboot :) [13:26] grekkos, it should [13:26] hmm, this could be pretty sweet cause right now i use virtualbox and i hate that it doesnt support dual monitors [13:26] grekkos, something like that [13:26] HoldMyPocket, aye, this might be great [13:26] gah, cutting a 3-days uptime for you slackytude ! [13:26] and at work we have a compellent san and all that fancy vmware stuff, should be awesome [13:26] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Camarade_Tux, dont! [13:27] slackytude, too late, I've closed mplayer ! [13:27] HoldMyPocket, yeah,up to now my left monitor is linux, right monitor is rdpsessions into various XP machines b rdp. some of those are running inside vmware [13:27] now, I'd like to know why I'm still using 400MB of memory with everything closed except xchat... [13:27] HoldMyPocket, thats nifty too [13:27] Camarade_Tux, you chat too much [13:28] slackytude, true ;) [13:28] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [13:28] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Camarade_Tux: says telnet is open, but then again I have no idea why this isn't working since i've never used it before ;p time for google [13:28] grekkos, rtfm ;) [13:29] and that wasn't xchat's fault [13:29] let's see if it's X [13:29] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:31] heh well it just says "Connection closed by foreign host." [13:31] maybe i need to enable it in the router settings first [13:31] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) joined ##slackware. [13:32] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.90) joined ##slackware. [13:32] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.55.89) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:37] hey guys, doing a quick lamp install and can't figure out permissions on the dirs (still a rookie at this) was wondering if anyone knew of a ticklist or similar that showed the levels of access required by the various software involved (woth an ask before the laborious tias session ensues) [13:37] lamp install? [13:37] should be already in slack [13:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] I am having trouble with the fonts for kdm. They seem to be around 40 pt and I have not been able to figure out how to get them set smaller. Anyone run across this problem before? Any help would be appreciated. -current (not 64) [13:38] Nick change: BOFH__ -> BOFH [13:39] slackytude, it's a seriously barebones linode I've taken from the ground up [13:40] php is a little iffy and just need to go through my /var/www to check all the perms are set well/correctly [13:40] does anyone here actually use updatedb? [13:40] missyjane, yes [13:41] for what? [13:41] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:42] wb Camarade_Tux [13:42] wb Camarade_Tux :D [13:42] I should stop working around xchat's licence on windows, I should make my own compile =/ [13:42] missyjane, well updatedb updates your locate database, so you can do a locate STUFF, where STUFF can be a name or a wildcard. like locate *avi to get all avis [13:42] (which I'll do once my package manager is ready) [13:42] hey missyjane :) [13:42] to update the slocate database, what else? [13:42] Camarade_Tux, before you have to much trouble Ill be going soon [13:43] lol i know i know [13:43] blah why did i bother asking [13:43] slackytude, it's not because of you : I don't want to work and I don't want to code on ocaml-gir either ;) [13:43] Why did you bother asking? [13:44] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-253-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] yes, why did you? [13:44] does rdesktop support 3d? [13:44] dumb question.. lemme rephras.e. [13:44] can i game with it [13:44] Organizm: uh..no [13:44] err, HoldMyPocket ^^ [13:44] You can't game over RDP [13:44] haha : the description of a "badge" on kongregate.com : "Level 78 completed  "Endurance badge" does not even begin to describe this. Go outside. Please. Your family is worried about you." ;p [13:45] Action: Camarade_Tux learns again how to copy-paste with ^C/^V [13:45] HoldMyPocket: And don't think about using a VM either [13:45] you're crushing my hopes [13:45] almost time for lunch break I think [13:45] If you want to game, run Windows native. [13:46] that's what I do / [13:46] same here.. i just hate having two desktops [13:46] and i hate dual booting [13:46] I dual boot [13:46] Then use crappy ass wine. [13:46] what games are you trying to run? [13:46] If you hate wine, then you're going to have to make a compromise with yourself [13:46] yeah i know i've been dealing with that compromise [13:46] Camarade_Tux, alrighty then [13:47] i'm going out to eat now [13:47] but [13:47] right now i play cod4 [13:47] oh [13:47] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.26.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:47] HoldMyPocket, ask me again tomorow [13:47] I have everything unlocked in CoD4 o.O [13:47] wine and VMs work great for older games (think Starcraft, Diablo) [13:47] Every...single...thing [13:47] slackytude: i will for sure =p [13:47] Gold AK..gold uzi...all achievements [13:47] I've had steam working under wine too [13:47] with Counter-Strike 1.6 [13:47] used to play hl2 in wine [13:48] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-244-46-30.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("If a nation expects to be ignorant and free...it expects what never was and never will be"). [13:48] wine has been getting better about steam [13:48] sucked [13:48] i just need deadly silence, m14 silenced, and the uav blocker and i'm happy [13:48] but the only problem is that it would lock up occasionally... full screen... and I couldn't get any response from any key combination [13:48] what about cs4 being run in a virtual machine? [13:48] i would probably try wine first for that [13:48] cs4 will run in a vm [13:48] cool [13:48] Well..it'll run fine in VMWare [13:49] is it better to run in a vm or wine? [13:49] VMs with openGL/direct3d support get better too [13:49] Dunno how the DX9 crap is in those other products [13:49] grekkos, wine [13:49] I was actually just looking for a CS4 install disc to try on this machine but the guy at work left it at home i guess [13:49] this machine is not that great though [13:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:49] most netbooks could probably outperform this [13:49] I kinda want to get the sims [13:50] the cpu fan in this machine sounds like the ocean [13:50] eh? [13:50] the sims? [13:50] i don't know what it's doign right now [13:50] Yes..there is a new one [13:50] it sounds like it's breething [13:50] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] i can't find a game ir eally want to play [13:50] beathing * [13:50] now i'm considering installing ultima online again, and quake 2 [13:50] I just bought TF2 [13:50] quake3 has a native build for linux [13:50] I'm playing Aces of the Deep right now [13:50] but that's q3 [13:51] well hopefully quakelive will work in linux [13:51] but for the life of me I cant sink the Royal Oak. damn brits [13:51] http://ioquake3.org if you haven't tried it yet [13:51] well, sinking it works but getting away doesnt [13:52] bye [13:52] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.2) left irc: "Leaving" [13:55] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. 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[14:19] i was up way too late and now i pay. [14:19] Hey antiwire [14:20] hey [14:20] How bad are you paying? :P [14:20] with pain and suffering. [14:20] ouch [14:21] firebird619, see what will happen to you soon ? :D [14:21] why were you up so much later, just busy doing something? [14:21] Camarade_Tux: haha, I get enough sleep, I just have odd hours. :P [14:21] yeah something got my attention [14:22] i ended up going to bed at 430 [14:23] I went to bed here about 03:30. I should get to bed a little earlier than I do, but it's easy to get busy working on something or whatever and then the time just flies by and then you look at the clock and "Oh crap, it's that late" :P [14:24] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-29-72.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving." [14:24] Camarade_Tux: How much sleep do you get, what time do you get up and go to sleep? :D [14:25] 7-9, I can't manage to sleep more [14:25] you're no better than me with sleeping habits. :P [14:26] ok, I'm making a vbox virtual disk instead of colinux (didn't seem much fun) [14:26] do I put kde4 on it ? [14:26] firebird619, 8-9 hours is ok ;) [14:26] I get between 7-8. :P [14:27] more like 7.5-8. [14:29] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-89-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:31] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.90) joined ##slackware. [14:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] noooo, vbox will disconnect me from irc ! ='( [14:41] landyda (i=vaibhav@117.197.50.197) left irc: [14:41] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:41] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:42] wb Camarade_Tux :) [14:42] thanks firebird619, the deconnection has been so long I thought I was going to die ! [14:42] aperturefever (n=abell@cust-196-157.on4.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Camarade_Tux: Well, you're alive. :) [14:43] greetings [14:43] salutations aperturefever [14:45] hi aperturefever [14:46] ah crap [14:46] no slackware iso ready =/ [14:46] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [14:47] .i like qemu with kqemu accelarator... its a transferrable image... doesnt have the spaghetti xml vbox has [14:47] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] rm -rf on windows is like rm -rf --really-r --yeah-I-told-you-r --yeah-and-even---really-r --delete-these-bloody-files-r [14:47] ... [14:49] heheh... i had a finger slip one day on rm -fr in my iptables directory... lost it all [14:49] Camarade_Tux: More like right-click delete, left click yes. :o [14:49] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [14:49] and tick the 'do this for all elements' checkbox a thousand times [14:49] Camarade_Tux: What version are you talking about? [14:50] hmmm, 7beta :D [14:50] I've never used anything after XP. And I've completely removed windows from all of my computers about 2 years ago. :) [14:51] Camarade_Tux: 7 beta is quite nice. [14:51] yeah ! I found a mkisofs.exe :) [14:51] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [14:51] I had planned to install both 2k3 x64 and win7 x64 but I'm only going with win7 in the end [14:51] really nice [14:52] Windows suck sooo bad! [14:52] :-) [14:52] I had win 7 in a Vbox vm, which is borked now for some reason. So I'm going to put it in qemu [14:53] does anyone here play crysis? [14:54] I play slackware! [14:54] i wish i had the machine to play such games :D [14:54] Because it just works! [14:54] hmm... [14:54] bash: ls: command not found [14:54] Camarade_Tux: you're doing it wrong. :P [14:54] But Crysis rocks! [14:55] firebird619, not my fault ! [14:55] Camarade_Tux: is ls in /bin? [14:55] I know, jk. :D [14:55] sajes, I'm using mingw ;) [14:55] and it seems I half-borked it [14:55] Action: sajes sighs. [14:55] that doesn't sound right.. [14:55] So you only stuck it in half way? [14:56] Camarade_Tux: Oh noes, my win7 iso has seemingly disappeared. [14:56] heret|c, I'm trying to use mkisofs to make a slackware-current iso ! ;p [14:56] you agentc0re|work: How's it going? [14:56] firebird619, wget ? :D [14:56] haha [14:56] firebird619: Alright, just finished lunch and i want to sleep now. [14:56] Heh, they're still giving away 1 year licenses to win7? [14:56] I have it on a dvd too, I can just make another iso. [14:56] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] sajes, yeah [14:57] agentc0re|work: Take a good sleep! [14:57] I had read that the upgrade for Windows 7, um, iirc home premium, will be $29. [14:57] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] pri4pus: He's at work. :P [14:58] I have two scripts on win7 : one that lets me put windows always on top with a keyboard shortcut and another one which lets me move windows with Alt+left click and it also lets me resize windows the same way :) [14:58] I'd give it a try, but I don't beta test for evil corporate people to just be spat on. :o [14:58] firebird619: And that would be a problem? [14:58] :-) [14:58] firebird619, I guess you forgot a trailing '0' ;) [14:58] no, two trailing 0's [14:58] thumbs, hehe :p [14:58] Camarade_Tux: Nah, no joke man. $29, but then I seen a bit higher price elsewhere. [14:59] "Oh hey, thanks for beta testing our software for free. Now, give us $100." [14:59] y0 thumbs [14:59] firebird619: hola [14:59] kde 4.2.4 is worse than the previous one for me. plasma had just crashed 10 mins ago, had to reload it manually. and dolphin seems unresponsive at times when i work with files. what a great bugfix release :( [14:59] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.83.62) joined ##slackware. [14:59] oh, I was wondering if I were to put kde4 there, but I don't have it in my rsync anyway :D [14:59] pri4pus: at some places of work, yes. sleep=pink slip. :D [14:59] aperturefever (n=abell@cust-196-157.on4.ontelecoms.gr) left ##slackware. [14:59] pri4pus: heh, i should. I've slept here at work before. [14:59] firebird619: Not for me. [15:00] pri4pus: good, then go take a nap. :) [15:00] We had gotten a new shipment of PC's and stacked up a few boxes to the entrance of my cubie and then just went to sleep. [15:00] agentc0re|work: Does your place of work frown on sleeping? :P [15:00] anyone else has any weird problems with kde after the latest update? [15:00] :-) now I am home, and my boss is not here. So it is not interesting. Better, I will go to a club. [15:01] At the last place I worked I would curl up into a fetal position on the couch at lunch and sleep [15:01] no one cared [15:01] antiwire: HAHA, thats great! [15:01] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] it was great [15:02] powernaps ftw [15:02] i would erase my .kde but i don't want to lose all the settings. [15:02] yep [15:02] ROFL. "Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours.". That's epic. [15:03] sajes: Where's that? [15:03] agentc0re|work: windows 7 rc page. [15:03] slava_dp: backup your current .kde, move it, logout and back in (or restart), see if the issues are solved, then go from there. [15:03] slava_dp, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup then ;) [15:03] we'll get more linux users with the politics like that, sajes :) [15:03] agentc0re|work: They want you to buy an "unexpired" license. If you don't, they kill your uptime I guess. [15:03] sajes: Just need to set the clock back a year all the time i guess. [15:04] oh du sauciflard ! a.k.a. a pleasure most of you do not know :) [15:04] Probably some other internal clock they've build though. [15:04] agentc0re|work: That'll mess up security certificates with certain websites. [15:04] there will be people who will jailbreak it [15:04] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:05] windows cracks ftw [15:05] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.16.53) joined ##slackware. [15:05] slava_dp:It cracks because it sucks!!! [15:05] agreed [15:06] agentc0re|work: heh, yeah, I'm sure with it being AM$, it won't be as simple as changing the clock. I'm sure they have some other mechanism built in. [15:06] By the way, I thought this is #slackware chanel. [15:06] pri4pus: wrong, it's ##slackware. ;) [15:06] lol, what closet have i been locking myself in? I never new about this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law [15:06] expiration on windows is a joke [15:06] WTF [15:06] agentc0re|work: You miserable failure. [15:07] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] if you're speaking about the small message on the bottom-right corner of the screen, it's a complete joke [15:07] Ouch... that's harsh. [15:07] Well, come on. [15:07] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.83.62) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] Camarade_Tux: this is with win7, after March 1, 2010, your pc will shutdown every 2 hours if you're still on the beta/rc releases. :P [15:08] agentc0re|work: A 20 year old internet rule that invariably holds true, and the corollory being the simplest way to win any debate... [15:08] agentc0re|work: Maybe you haven't spent enough time trolling. Please contact your local 4chan representative. [15:08] eviljames, you nazi ! [15:08] firebird619, google for tweaknt ;) [15:08] Camarade_Tux: Thanks for proving. I win. :D [15:09] lol [15:09] reason i ask is cause mi trying to figure out if crysis will work with wione [15:09] eviljames: 5 Camarade_Tux 0 :) [15:09] wine [15:09] eviljames, you're welcome :) [15:10] missyjane, answer : try and see ;) [15:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [15:10] bleh i dont have enough space [15:10] :( [15:10] Ah ha, another one! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September Never knew it had a name for when everything went downhill. [15:10] yeah, I'm giving 16GB of memory to the slackware virtual machine ! \o/ [15:10] only on windows partition id o [15:10] mmhmm [15:11] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [15:11] great [15:11] well they cancelled his appointment and didnt tell us till we drove 45miles there [15:11] Camarade_Tux: found the iso. :) [15:11] eviljames, your last wikipedia link killed IE8 [15:11] I hope you're happy ! -_- [15:12] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:12] missyjane, install on the windows partition then :) [15:12] Camarade_Tux: I never posted a wiki link. You fail again! [15:12] nix_chix0r: they didn't have the decency enough to call you and let you know? That sucks. [15:12] ntfs-3g is your friend ;) [15:12] rescheduled for the 19th [15:12] eviljames, eviljames, agentc0re|work, same [15:12] Camarade_Tux: that was my link. :P [15:12] lol [15:12] you're both taiwanese -_- [15:13] Action: agentc0re|work looks at himself [15:13] I am a cracker. [15:13] lol [15:13] Yeah, man... I'm a straight-up honkey. [15:13] Action: agentc0re|work gives eviljames the honkey high five! [15:13] or maybe korean ? do you play starcraft ? [15:13] I play with myself, does that count? [15:13] haha [15:14] I think I've been pretty clear about the games I play. None. [15:14] agentc0re|work, hmmm, not sure pics ? -_- [15:14] ohgodno [15:14] Camarade_Tux: you sick freak. :P [15:14] heret|c, I don't want to look at them, I only want to post them on 4chan :D [15:14] eviljames: +1 [15:14] Camarade_Tux: You cheese eating surrender monkey! [15:15] eviljames, I haven't eaten cheese since lunch ! [15:15] Camarade_Tux, i will :) [15:15] o_O [15:15] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:16] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saucisson ^^ [15:17] Action: Camarade_Tux wants ! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Saucisson_02.JPG [15:17] Camarade_Tux: pics http://tinyurl.com/6f2xn4 [15:17] agentc0re|work, "the image or video violated our terms of use" ;) [15:17] Not surprisingly, I am not tempted to click agentc0re|work's link at all! [15:17] firebird619, my hard drives and external came today [15:17] nix_chix0r: sweet. that didn't take long. [15:18] nope [15:19] Camarade_Tux: LOL, i guess lemonparty will do that to ya. [15:19] how should I set the virtual hard drive for slackware ? [15:20] lolwut, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lemon+party ;p [15:21] lolwut, sorry [15:21] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-74.aei.ca) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [15:21] lol gnarly [15:21] Interesting... there must be some dialog I can't see. [15:21] I basically press whenever this regexp is matched : '^[^ ]+,' =/ [15:21] comarade_tux, lol its ok [15:22] lolwut: I think it's a hint of something he may want to do with you, run for the hills while you can friend! [15:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.53) joined ##slackware. [15:23] lolwut, come near me and admire the sun reflecting on the clouds [15:23] hm.. [15:23] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-74.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:23] agentc0re|work, how do you know I wouldnt like it? haha [15:24] missyjane :D [15:24] Action: agentc0re|work runs for the hills [15:24] agentc0re|work, hey, you can't, you're at work :D [15:24] I made the cubical walls look like hills :P [15:25] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [15:25] so you actually ran into the walls ? :P [15:25] now that you're KO I can do whatever I want with you :) [15:30] Action: firebird619 KO's Camarade_Tux. Take that. :) [15:30] firebird619, too late, I've already done agentc0re|work :) [15:30] :O [15:30] no wonder he hasn't spokle for a while. [15:30] err. spoke [15:31] err. sparkle [15:31] lol [15:31] Camarade_Tux: That wasn't much time, a quickie evidently? :P [15:31] Action: agentc0re|work butt hurts [15:31] Owww... Wtf happened?? [15:32] agentc0re|work: No you can't run for the hills. barely walk even. :P [15:32] firebird619, yeah, I was ready, I had fapped a bit earlier to be faster :) [15:32] s/No/Now/ [15:32] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.16.53) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] buahahah [15:33] Action: missyjane runs around in this room with a strapon screamin "PHEER ME" [15:33] Camarade_Tux: Ah, doing that and working on win7, you sick freak. :P [15:33] missyjane: hahaha [15:33] Action: firebird619 runs around the room screamin "GET AWAY FROM ME" [15:34] firebird619, yeah, I am completely sick ! [15:34] Camarade_Tux: installing win7 in qemu now. :) [15:34] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders why there haven't been any noob tonight, are they scared ? [15:34] si [15:34] firebird619, nice, I'm installing slack-current on win7 while you install win7 on slack ;p [15:34] probably, especially after reading what's been going on in here. :P [15:35] sweet [15:35] Camarade_Tux: you're not drinking a sprite too, are you? [15:35] that'd just be weird. [15:35] firebird619, no, not drinking anything ='( [15:35] well with missyjane running around with her huge rubber and you wanting to through hourly lemon party's, i don't blame them for not wanting to come here. [15:35] hello [15:35] phew, thank gosh. ;0 [15:35] s/through/throw [15:36] agentc0re|work: hahaha [15:36] Camarade_Tux: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1543 [15:36] :D [15:37] agentc0re|work: lol, did you noobfarm that? [15:37] Maybe... [15:37] agentc0re|work :D [15:37] agentc0re|work: Ah, maintaining anonymity. [15:37] ;) [15:37] I should stop a bit : of the three last quotes, I appear in two and submitted the third =/ [15:37] Camarade_Tux: you ever get em back in place? [15:38] firebird619, yeah, was quite easy since I held them in my hands [15:38] had to buy glue though [15:38] wood glue or sticky glue? :P [15:38] not hot glue I hope. [15:39] How to switch between windows in console ? [15:39] universal one [15:39] adeodatus, tried the windows keys ? and alt+left/right [15:40] Action: firebird619 sends Camarade_Tux skydiving out of a plane. [15:40] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] Does anyone have any clue why my kernel is spitting out: "Too Big Adjustment 32"? [15:40] firebird619, yeah, thanks ! did you see the video that has been sent yesterday ? :) [15:41] Camarade_Tux: which one? [15:41] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.84.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:41] I know I posted one of a guy landing into the side of a blimp. [15:41] firebird619, the one with nakid people skydiving ? :) [15:41] How to login as root ? [15:41] Camarade_Tux: nah, didn't see that one. [15:41] firebird619, well, that's what I'll do when I'll skydive thanks to you :) [15:42] ohgoshno, put some clothes on man. [15:42] adeodatus, hmmm, type 'root' when asked which account to log in ? [15:42] firebird619, hihi, catch me if you can :D [15:43] Nah, I'll just put a trampoline out there to catch you, I'll stand back and watch with a smirk on my face. [15:43] How to close the windows from console? [15:45] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-224-175-37.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] adeodatus: do you want to kill a running process? [15:46] hmm, didn't know slack defaulted to ext4 when formatting [15:46] yes [15:46] Camarade_Tux: -current? [15:46] firebird619, yeah [15:47] Camarade_Tux: Hmm, I didn't know that either. [15:47] and btw, the green screen one gets when he selects another keyboard layout is definitely UGLY ! [15:47] Hmm, Win7 has been sitting at "Setup is Starting" for about 5 minutes. [15:47] hmmm, did I skip the 'expert' package selection ? hmmm [15:48] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.192) joined ##slackware. [15:48] firebird619, I just started installation, do you think mine will end before yours ? :P [15:48] probably will. [15:48] :( [15:48] Did yours take a while at that screen? [15:49] firebird619, don't remember, I was probably watching TV while it was installing [15:49] haha [15:49] ah, ok, expert package selection :) [15:50] hmmm, a possible improvement for the install : when you press '?' on a package in expert mode, it gives you the .txt description [15:50] How to kill multiple users? [15:50] uhm..an automatic? 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[15:57] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:57] ah, that sucker called me from AC/DC's live so I can listen to it but I couldn't hear a thing through the phone ;p [15:58] I hate him [15:59] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:59] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.90) joined ##slackware. [16:00] reason number 1 I don't like python for : uses camlcase -_- [16:01] camlcase? [16:01] CaMlCaSe [16:02] antiwire: Did you see the tech support chat that abused that meme? [16:02] evening [16:02] antiwire: "hello, I'm so-n-so, how can I help you" "I accidentally the whole thing" [16:02] antiwire: "You accidentally what?" "Well, I was working, but then I accidentally it" [16:02] haha yeah I think I saw that [16:03] gave me a chuckle a while back. [16:03] Action: eviljames gets back to work... [16:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [16:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:06] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [16:10] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.192) left irc: "Leaving." [16:22] firebird619, over yet ? [16:22] no [16:22] It's still friggen sitting on "Setup is Startin" It FAILS. [16:23] s/Startin/Starting/ [16:23] heret|c, I ended my package selection :) [16:23] heret|c, sorry >< [16:23] lol, tab completion FAIL. :) [16:23] looks like Hermann isn't here ;p [16:23] haha [16:24] I don't know why this win7 is stuck. [16:24] firebird619, I think my set up will be about 10 times smaller than yours ;) [16:24] probably [16:24] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.157.26) joined ##slackware. [16:26] starting to install l/ and about 450MB :) [16:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Action: Camarade_Tux installed d/ of course [16:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] ...preparing to start to consider thinking about the possibility of getting ready to install Windows on your computer <--- that's what it's doing? [16:35] haha, probably. [16:35] firebird619: got any other disk partitions on that disk you are installing windows on? [16:35] no [16:36] ok, i was going to say that i seen windows do wierd things when there are non-windows disk partitions (anything for linux) [16:36] Urchlay: I wrote down a sane order of build/install deps for most of the SBo libs and tools that are AV/DVD related http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14623 [16:37] during install that is [16:37] Action: Urchlay looks [16:38] antiwire: nice. That ought to be placed somewhere more permanent than a pastebin, bet it took a lot of effort to get it straigh [16:38] t [16:39] Urchlay: yeah, I think the sbopkg project might like it too, rworkman said they've been tossing around the idea of user contributed tag lists [16:39] Urchlay: took ~5-6 hours [16:39] lol [16:39] on a clean system [16:39] firebird619, install is 920MB :) [16:39] antiwire: nice! [16:40] ;) [16:40] antiwire: good work. :) I haven't got around to trying it yet. I know some of those things I have installed already from other stuff. Thanks for putting that together and sharing with us. [16:41] you're all welcome and if anyone finds an issue feel free to yell [16:41] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:41] AHAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! AAAHHH!!!!!!!!! [16:41] it's also by no means every possible option [16:42] firebird619, oh, a fluxbox [16:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.90) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:42] VampX (n=orlandol@200.46.190.99) joined ##slackware. [16:42] firebird619: actually I meant to ask you something last night... you still have a 12.2 box with qt4, yah? [16:43] Urchlay: yup, sure do. [16:43] Camarade_Tux: yup, fluxbox. :) [16:43] Urchlay: btw, I've been messing with that k9copy build and I've had great success with various tests [16:43] firebird619: you have any interest in trying out my build for k9copy 2.3.2? (It works on -current, it *should* work on 12.2 + qt4) [16:43] dvd ripping to ISO and shrinking works great [16:44] Urchlay: sure. [16:45] kunal113 (n=kunala05@ppp-124-122-161-225.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: [16:45] firebird619: http://pastebin.ca/1451439 [16:46] Urchlay: Thanks. I'll give it a try here in a bit. Just working on another project atm. [16:47] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) left irc: "Leaving." [16:47] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [16:47] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) joined ##slackware. [16:47] wait, I must have vim to use python ? [16:47] guess I'm going to recompile it [16:48] k9copy a kde4 app? [16:48] well, exchange "vim" and "python" [16:48] need python to use vim [16:49] Heya Pig_Pen, how's it going? [16:49] err, requires qt4.c & kde4.x [16:49] hi firebird619 [16:49] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] i am doing ok, having to get used to working in the heat, i been getting to work earlier so i can quit earlier [16:51] Pig_Pen: I'm waiting for the news to come on, they're gonna talk about a weather phenomenon going on in MN that hasn't happened in 60 years. I'm curious as to what it is. [16:51] i thought i heard something about that, something to do with the jet stream causing unseasonably cool weather up there [16:52] yeah, it's been cooler than normal the past few days. The news said the other day it was about 30 degrees below what it should be this time of year. [16:52] al gore shut up and the hot air went away [16:53] haha [16:53] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-140-31.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:53] yes! the pitch went successful! [16:54] Hi TwinReverb, how's it going? [16:55] is there a script executed on logout? [16:56] i want to unmount my sshfs volumes on logout [16:56] grekkos: depends on your shell. Bash has .bash_logout [16:56] BP{k}: and how often is that executed? [16:56] although that may actually produce some rather unexpected/unpleasant results [16:56] grekkos: on exiting a shell. [16:56] BP{k}: i.e., what defines a 'logout' [16:56] i bet you can make one, ~/.bash_logout ? i think other distros have them si i dont see why it would not work in slackware [16:56] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:1ad) left irc: Client Quit [16:57] so would it be triggered when i close a konsole/xterm window for example? [16:57] Pig_Pen: .bash_logout does work. but logging out from a console would trigger that. (Hence the "might include unexpected/unpleasant results) [16:57] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] ah, like system wide killing of sshfs, not just a user account? [16:58] if al gore goes to NK to try to free the two reporters, I hope they lock him up. [16:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] BP{k}: maybe something more accurate to what i want would be an x session logout, since it doesn't happen as often (single-user pc) [16:58] "single-user" [16:58] grekkos: hmmm what WM/DE? [16:58] yeah! lock up al gore and relase those two hot korean chics :D [16:58] BP{k}: KDE atm [16:58] Tsk tsk [16:59] haha [16:59] Hi alienBOB [16:59] firebird619, she is acting like she will buy my old laptop for $100 with Linux on it [16:59] but he created the interwebz. How could you say such a thing! [16:59] Slackware Linux no less [16:59] TwinReverb: nice. [16:59] firebird619: don't be fooled, she's just using that as an excuse to get to your money! [16:59] i just had to make it appealing by properly configuring the laptop (not hard to do), and setting up graphical login (auto-login to his account after 15 seconds) [17:00] grekkos: with KDE IIRC you could use a script in ~/.kde/shutdown [17:00] grekkos: not my money, TwinReverb's money. ;) [17:00] VampX (n=orlandol@200.46.190.99) left irc: [17:00] oh right [17:00] TwinReverb: awesome. potentially $100 richer then. :) [17:00] sweetleaf (n=sweetlea@cpe-77-83-174-50-dsl.netone.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:07] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Pig_Pen: Yup, that's the weather phenomenon, the coldest stretch of days we've had in 60 years. [17:08] antiwire: http://www.hotsauce.com/Al-Gore-s-I-Invented-Hot-Sauce-p/1811ag.htm [17:08] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.190.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:09] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.22) left irc: [17:09] (actually the URL itself kinda gives away the joke. *shrug*) [17:11] antiwire: pm? [17:12] sure man [17:12] you guys hear of that actor that died with nastyshit [17:12] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] kozmix (n=kozmix@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:12] like wearing fishnet stockings on his body [17:12] his weener was tied up and stuff [17:12] lol [17:12] That was my grandpa. [17:13] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:13] jeev, you mean David Carradine. [17:14] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:15] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:15] yea [17:16] man i'm loving it, and hopefully so will this dude [17:16] some people have wierd sexual fetishes [17:16] some people are just plain weird [17:16] I think the term you were looking for is "Autoerotic Asphyxiation" [17:17] Indeed it is. I called it immediately after it happened too. [17:17] eviljames: yeah as soon as I heard it, that was the first thought that popped up. [17:18] BP{k}: It's in the ##slackware logs somewhere, I said it was gonna be another INXS story. :P [17:18] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] You know, you would think with all the documentated cases that autoerotic asphyxiation is a `bad and stupd idea(tm)', people would eventually learn not to do it. [17:19] but it's so GOOD, though... [17:19] Action: eviljames probably shouldn't encourage that. [17:21] Urchlay: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14626 <---k9copy slackbuild. It fails because I don't have kde4. :) [17:21] Action: TwinReverb is not a fan of KDE4 [17:21] Action: eviljames is a fan of KDE4 [17:21] especially the kmail / kgpg interaction (i.e. there is none it seems) [17:21] I'm a fan of fluxbox and KDE4, I'm just not on current to have kde4. [17:21] TwinReverb: patch it. [17:22] every post on the internet says "you need to set it up, like you did for kde3" [17:22] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-224-175-37.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [17:22] news flash: it "just worked" (tm) for kde3, and for kde4 (alas, same ~/.kde directory) it fails [17:22] What are the odds the folder structure stayed the exact same? [17:22] i kept all folders the same and it failed [17:22] Did you consider trying lsof or inotifywatch to see what files were being opened? [17:23] Action: TwinReverb has backups [17:23] weeds (n=weechat@78.169.44.109) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Urchlay: Xvid encoding from DVD disk to file works [17:23] 32bit -current [17:23] i didn't bother [17:23] but I do need a much faster system if I plan on doing that very often ;) [17:24] -current is for testing. i tested slackware64-current and slackware-current and both failed on the kmail part (which is a huge make or break for me) [17:24] weeds (n=weechat@78.169.44.109) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [17:24] no big deal though, i can wait until release candidates start appearing [17:24] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-140-31.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "..." [17:24] isnt kmail now bundled with koffice? [17:25] uh, no [17:25] it shouldn't be, it's not "office" anything, it's "network" [17:26] ah, ok [17:26] ikaiyu_ (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [17:26] time to go home [17:26] maybe kontact is classed as office due to it being groupware, but oh well [17:26] peace homies [17:26] grekkos: later. [17:29] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] you guys in different area's, are dentists good? [17:31] like rural [17:33] I've used the same dentist for years [17:33] actually, I've always used this dentist [17:33] He's great, practices all of the newest techniques, doesn't skim on pain kill juice and actually listens to you [17:33] firebird619: ah, I was hoping it only needed qt4 [17:34] my dentist is jewish [17:34] thanks for testing it for me [17:34] Urchlay: you're welcome. [17:34] Which is the configuration file of the ntpd daemon? [17:34] I don't really see how his religious affiliation comes into play for filling a cavity but whatever [17:34] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:35] jeev: are you looking for a new dentist? [17:37] Nevermind, it is: /etc/ntp.conf [17:37] :-P [17:38] antiwire: I need a new DVD drive if I'm going to use k9copy much [17:38] Urchlay: those errors you had were drive issues? [17:38] that sucks [17:38] pretty sure they are [17:38] Urchlay: have you tried ot give the drive a little puff of canned air yet? [17:38] sometimes dislodging a little dust from the lens helps [17:38] the one on the Dr. Who disc had to be a drive or disc error, the BBC doesn't do fancy copy-protection stuff like disney does [17:39] somewhere I have a drive cleaner (disk with soft brushes sticking out of the bottom), had good results with those before [17:40] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [17:41] TwinReverb: what is your problem with kmail and kgpg? [17:41] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:42] yea antiwire [17:42] jeev: do you have insurance coverage or are you paying out of pocket? [17:43] i have insurance but it's little for dental [17:43] i could get dental insurance but uh [17:43] i dont want a dentist in cali [17:43] i know people fly to iran for dental work because it's cheap, better and it lasts [17:43] and mexicans do it in mexico [17:43] i wonder how many ppl ran for the door [17:43] :D [17:43] i guess i can get the same thing if i fly to another state.. [17:43] in cali, pretty much LA, they use bullshit techniques and keep you coming, do piss poor jobs [17:44] well you're just using the wrong practices [17:44] people here are greedy bro [17:44] jeev: Well when they start putting their wanker in your mouth to pee in it, that is when you're supposed to yell "RED LIGHT, RED LIGHT!!" [17:44] it's best to go somewhere with lowre cost of living [17:44] heh [17:44] The guy I use has been my dentist pretty much my whole life and he only does what needs to be done and explains all of the options along with the downsides [17:45] jeev: eh, what you're talking about sounds like grounds for a malpractice suit [17:45] he's very trustworthy and never does fake work [17:45] it's amazing that you can't find a good dental plan [17:45] this country is gay [17:45] so move [17:45] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7B6B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [17:45] antiwire, i know someone who is really good but he doesn't accept insurance and charges a lot [17:45] :> [17:46] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:47] yeah, california can be ridiculous [17:47] what? [17:47] california? ridiculous? it should be ridicufornia [17:47] for example; a sit in dentist told me a needed to crown a tooth. I told him I'd wait for my normal dentist. My normal dentist looked at it and said a filling would be fine for another 5-6 years and a crown was not needed as long as the filling held and I was careful about eating. (which is basically what you have to be after you get any filling anyway) [17:48] s/can be/will always be [17:48] I let him do the filling instead of crown and it's been fine for a year so far [17:48] i had california on my keyword [17:49] anyone that talks about california, i must chip in and tell them how much california sucks [17:49] missyjane: why do you think it sucks so much? [17:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] oh california needs to be sold so we can pay out countrys debt [17:49] Then where am I gonna live? :( [17:49] i have a friend who fell off 2-3 stories [17:49] ask arnold swarznegger for money [17:49] smashed everything, got fake teeth [17:49] and he loves it lol [17:50] never has to brush hahahahah [17:50] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:50] na i think he does but [17:50] ... [17:50] i used to live in San Diego county until 1980, then moved to Oklahoma, got a job driving an 18 wheeler cross country for a while and every time i went to the west cost i was reminded how ridiculous california is [17:50] stupid californians, they s hould all die [17:50] like ccfreak2k [17:50] DIE!! [17:50] :( [17:50] yea cali sucks [17:50] uh [17:50] Action: missyjane wears a strapon again [17:50] jeev: Well i bet the boys love him when he takes out his dentures. [17:50] Actually missyjane, you'll get your wish. [17:50] ew [17:50] I'll die at some point. [17:50] Action: missyjane runs around screaming again "PHEER ME!!" [17:50] Action: agentc0re|work trips missyjane [17:51] Action: missyjane falls on agentc0re and sticks it in agentc0re [17:51] Action: missyjane rams away [17:51] MUAHAHAH DIE! [17:51] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.157.26) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [17:51] what's good insurance [17:51] california has excellent country, beaches, mountains, desert, beautiful place, just crazy laws and *some* crazy people [17:51] damn it i typed too slow. [17:51] or should i fly somewhere rural [17:51] The only part of cali that sucks is, 29 palms. [17:52] what the heck is 29 palms anyway? [17:52] jeev: You can get good coverage in CA through blueshieldca.com. health and dental combined with eye discounts for 130/mo [17:52] lots of agriculture, i hauled lots of vegetables out of cali, wine too :D [17:52] Urchlay: it's a huge shit hole where crazy people live and a Marine base is stationed. [17:52] i have good health through bluecross [17:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-26-103.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:53] the name used to show up all the time at one of my old jobs, we had a customer called "29 palms (something or another)", and they were always at the top of any report that listed customers in alphabetical order... [17:53] die agentc0re :( [17:53] Camp Pendalton [17:53] do they have internets out californi way? [17:53] 29palms [17:53] Pig_Pen: No, not camp pendalton. Thats in San Diego. [17:54] missyjane: Why? Are you in 29palms? [17:54] my gramma used to live at Joshua Tree [17:54] on Old Woman Springs road [17:54] no im in east coast [17:55] I remember that place. My ex used to live there [17:55] missyjane: Then why the fsck are you telling me to die? [17:55] because west coast ppl suck [17:55] specifically california [17:55] she used to keep chickens, how she kept those birds alive in that desert ill never know [17:55] ffs.. [17:55] wtf [17:55] and you tripped me [17:55] missyjane: Hey - I resemble that remark! :) [17:56] ;( [17:56] I lived in DC before that. [17:56] West Coast > East Cost [17:56] no! [17:56] that expensive dentist may do stuff for me [17:56] but i dont know if i should contact him [17:56] east coast > west coast [17:56] i think they did something bad to my friend (not dentistry) [17:57] east coast west coast [17:57] See, they don't even each you math there. East Coast can never be greater than the west coast. [17:57] is this the new version of the "rebels vs. yankees" stuff my grandparents used to yammer on about? [17:57] lol [17:57] s/each/teach [17:58] midwest > both (east & west). There, settled. :P [17:58] i never like congested population centers, i rather live where the hillbillys live [17:58] firebird619: I'm fine with that because i am Midwest. :D [17:58] as am I agentc0re|work [17:58] I caught on to that from the last statement :P [17:59] lol, I figured ya would. ;) [17:59] "save yer confederate money boys, the south's gonna rise again!"... I know people who really think that way, 150 years later [17:59] the south will shit and fall back in it ;p [18:01] would you all please pass around whatever the hell you're smoking? [18:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:01] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [18:01] a lot of southern rednecks think that way but they dont look at the big picture, tehy are small potatoes compared to the rest of the country [18:01] well yeah [18:01] Hey, I found the failbus: 2009/06/09/cruise-fail-2/ [18:01] er, no. [18:02] http://failblog.org/2009/06/04/bus-win/ [18:02] I didn't say I thought they made any sense... [18:02] rworkman: Don't you think for one second that the irony right there was missed by all of us. [18:02] i been living right in the middle of em, oklahoma is full of southern thinking rednecks [18:03] antiwire: thanks for the post in #sbopkg re: queue [18:03] saying "thinking" is probably giving them too much credit, if they're like the ones in GA [18:03] I've put it up here: http://sbopkg.org/queues/12.2/multimedia.sqf [18:03] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:03] chess: you're welcome, I hope it actually helps ;) [18:03] IE8 died again >< [18:03] antiwire: it will. The next version of sbopkg will support easy queues like this [18:04] chess: awesome [18:04] just a list of apps, I mean [18:04] I've put a few up just for testing purposes [18:04] http://sbopkg.org/queues/12.2/ [18:05] anyway, I can't get vbox additions to work [18:05] at least mouse isn't free (run mouse, run !) [18:07] hm [18:11] aya :) [18:11] made xorg.conf have 'Driver "vboxmouse"' :) [18:12] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:12] I wish they'd make up their minds. Is it called vbox, VBox, or VirtualBox? [18:12] win7's mouse focus is like 150% borken :) [18:12] (you end up typing all 3 at various times) [18:12] I guess they had two different teams and management ;) [18:13] Urchlay: it'll probably end up being Sun xVM or something along those lines. [18:13] vbox for the kernel team which was writing in C, VBox for the tools team which was using Qt and writing in C++, VirtualBox for the management :) [18:13] saw your earlier comment about camel case... actually camelCase is when the caps appear in the middle of the word only (like a camel's hump) [18:14] and if the first character is capitalized ? [18:14] I always called that MixedCase, but I dunno if there's a proper name for it [18:14] edwarent (n=edward@190.69.225.52) joined ##slackware. [18:15] It's called sillyCapsForGoofyPeople [18:15] That's the technical definition. [18:15] my absolute least favorite thing to see when looking someone else's code is Mixed_Case_With_Underscores [18:15] or InConsistentStuff_likeThis [18:15] I just name all my functions single letters in the order they were created.. a() { } b() {} .. ac() {} ad(){}... cc() {} etc [18:16] eh, that's the other extreme, I hate to see that too... [18:16] in my ocaml bindings generator, that's the most important part of the program : dealing with different casings >< [18:16] reminds me of basic - all you need is the type characters [18:16] eviljames, I do better : I don't name functions :D [18:17] Camarade_Tux: Just put every step in main(), eh? That's a good plan. [18:17] eviljames, List.iter (fun i -> print_endline) my_super_list [18:17] ;) [18:17] (actually you'd write List.iter print_endline my_super_list) [18:20] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [18:20] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] gm145 (n=gm145@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] maybe i should fly to london and then go to a dentist there and charge it to the taxpayers [18:25] daftpunk1359 (n=daftpunk@ppp-124-122-161-225.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [18:26] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) joined ##slackware. [18:26] jeev: What kind of snaggly-ass teeth do you have that such a thing would be cheaper than just going to your local dentist? [18:26] lol [18:26] hahaha [18:28] firebird619, im actually wearing right now a firebird shirt :-O [18:28] cool [18:29] It better be red. [18:29] jeev just get all your teeth pulled out and get some dentures if they are *that* bad [18:29] And say "RED DRAGON" ON IT. [18:29] Action: eviljames watched old school this weekend for the billionth time... [18:29] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] :O, red firebird. :O. [18:30] eviljames, hell yeah [18:30] red and black are my favorite colors. :D [18:30] eviljames, and with the bird [18:30] Nice. [18:30] long sleeved ;-) [18:31] http://www.4x4offroads.com/image-files/1968-pontiac-firebird-4x4.jpg [18:31] if you are looking for a new car Chrysler is going to sell out big time [18:31] dodge/chrysler/plymouth [18:32] firebird619: is that yours? =p [18:32] no [18:32] :P [18:32] I wish I had a firebird. That'd be sweeet. [18:32] 619 as in the san diego area code? [18:32] brings back memories of playing driver 2 [18:32] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] edwarent (n=edward@190.69.225.52) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] if i was to buy a new dodge i would get one of those dodge magnum wagons and order it with a hemi in it [18:33] challenger r/t [18:33] or jeep rubicon unlimited [18:33] HoldMyPocket: Nah, I just picked the # at random, so in my case, it doesn't signify anything, but I do know it's San Diego's area code. [18:33] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:34] dial 1-619-fire-bird [18:34] Action: HoldMyPocket dials, what a sexy voice [18:35] hahaha [18:35] NukeDukem: dang it, how'd you get my number. It's suppose to be unlisted. :P [18:35] lol [18:35] night everybody :) [18:35] night Camarade_Tux [18:35] bonne nuit [18:36] wow, this is nice: http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Cars/68%20firebird/68-firebird-art-01.jpg [18:36] nice car! [18:36] classy and modern:P [18:36] If only it were real, and electric. [18:36] eviljames: yeah, no kidding. Get to work. :P [18:37] building it. [18:37] :O, red: http://www.thirdgen.org/tech/images/gallery/ken3271986PontiacFirebirdTransAm.jpg [18:37] percussion (n=percussi@190.2.40.57) joined ##slackware. [18:37] http://imagebin.ca/view/6GMcS3.html sexy [18:37] I'm going to commense work on retrofitting a decent car into all-electric. [18:37] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:38] It can be done easily with a Chevy S10 (90-130mile range, suitable for tooling around town) [18:38] percussion: that yours? [18:38] firebird619: yes [18:38] But I want a '68 Caddy or something along those lines. [18:38] percussion: good work, very nice. [18:38] thanks! [18:38] ver comfortable too [18:38] very* [18:38] percussion: Very, very nice. I like it a lot! [18:38] 68 caddy? In other words, dang near a tank on wheels. :P [18:39] :) [18:39] maybe i should post those pics [18:39] uh, my friends girlfriend went to the hospital.. they took 4 hours on her, the dad asked why it's taking so long, the nurse said that if they keep them there for longer than 2 hours.. they could charge insurance 7k more. [18:39] 1964 Lincoln Continental with the suiscide doors [18:39] NukeDukem: Hell yea. [18:39] firebird619: The problem is the weight of that damn machine. They look wicked though. [18:40] A freakin' Geo Metro can go all-electric easily as well, due to its tiny size. [18:40] yeah, the big cars like that though are dang smooth riding cars though. [18:41] percussion: What's that wallpaper off, a bridge of course, but where at? [18:41] http://rantonthiscar.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/1964-lincoln-continental-custom.jpg like this one :D [18:41] Puerto Madero, Buenos Aires, Argentina [18:41] Chevy SS [18:41] Doesnt gets better than that [18:41] NukeDukem: Oh that's awesome. :) [18:41] percussion: nice, you take that pic yourself as well? [18:42] yes [18:42] NukeDukem: Now pop the 18L V8 out of that sucker, replace most of it with batteries, get rid of the tranny and attach an electric motor directly to the wheels and you've got yourself a car! [18:42] Shuren (n=Devilman@host80-171-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:42] cool. nice work. [18:42] NukeDukem: Maybe not 18L, but I'm sure it has a giant v8 :P [18:42] the small one is the nations congress [18:42] at the bottom left [18:42] thanks [18:42] eviljames: haha, that'd be sweet. [18:42] that would be cool since electric would be really quiet [18:42] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [18:42] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) got netsplit. [18:42] skr276 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) got netsplit. [18:42] why not add some solar panels? :P [18:43] NukeDukem: It would be virtually silent, except for a little whine. [18:43] FDCX (i=0@94.176.32.6) returned to ##slackware. [18:43] skr276 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) returned to ##slackware. [18:43] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) returned to ##slackware. [18:43] the sound of radial tires rolling on the pavement is all you would hear [18:43] NukeDukem: It would also be IMPOSSIBLY fast. Infinite, immediate torque. [18:43] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:44] front wheel drive? [18:44] Which would be probably the best stop-light drag race ever. Some kid in a Civic pulls up to your lincoln, revs at you, and you leave him in your dust w/o making a sound [18:44] wouldn't it be ironic if baby seal killers drove electric snow mobiles while they go kill seals and harpoon whales? [18:44] NukeDukem: if you put the batteries in the trunk you could probably maintain the traction [18:44] NukeDukem: Or split between engine compartment & trunk [18:45] antiwire: not if its cheaper :) [18:45] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:45] lol [18:45] antiwire: convenience, its all about that [18:46] maybe rear wheel drive would be more practical since it already has a read differential, batteries where the motor was and eletric motor behind that (you're right eviljames) [18:47] /s/read/rear [18:49] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [18:49] NukeDukem: The problem is storing enough juice to move that boat a reasonable distance (not to mention charging up those batteries after the fact). [18:49] antiwire, i want to start a hospital fraud watchdog agency [18:49] NukeDukem: Unless you know of a good way to make that car about 2,000lbs lighter :P [18:49] jeev: yeah good luck there [18:49] lol [18:49] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] did you read what i wrote ? [18:50] yeah, something like that would only be good for local trips around town [18:50] "uh, my friends girlfriend went to the hospital.. they took 4 hours on her, the dad asked why it's taking so long, the nurse said that if they keep them there for longer than 2 hours.. they could charge insurance 7k more." [18:50] it's called "intrinsic corruption" [18:50] yeah i saw that [18:50] and i wish you luck [18:50] jeev: you do know that even the health insurance industry actually wants all that fixed right? [18:50] even the insurance companies know [18:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:51] antiwire, if i try, i'll either suceed or get killed.. if i get killed, i dont have to pay for dental work anymore. [18:51] antiwire, that's an easy fix, put an insurance neutral ambassador in each hospital to watch over everything done. [18:51] if they could get 7k extra for one person, that could pay an ambassador's entire monthly salary [18:52] riiight [18:52] neutral ambassador [18:52] antiwire, it could be done. [18:52] that's like an ethical prostitute [18:52] ... [18:52] hahah [18:52] there are. [18:52] lol [18:52] the reason why you were born. [18:52] medicin = worst mafia ever [18:52] yea seriously percussion. [18:52] yep [18:53] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] antiwire, some fag on the radio [18:55] http://www.asbarez.com/2009/05/22/call-to-action-its-ok-to-say/comment-page-1/ [18:55] read that shit [18:55] percussion (n=percussi@190.2.40.57) left irc: ":)" [18:55] While talking about the costs, Handel suggested reducing the U.S. population to save the government money. Then came a wisecrack about starting with the Armenians and selling Glendale. So far, it’s just tacky, and par for the shock-radio course. One person who heard this called and e-mailed to complain. The upshot? The e-mail was read and mocked, again no surprises. But then came “What the Turks started, Bill will finish.” [18:57] don't get me started on the health care OR big-pharma in this country. [18:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] animals get better treatment from a vet than humans get [18:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:59] it is totally ridiculous and of course all about money and the doctors guess about everything because they can't wait to g to lunch with the next pharma rep [18:59] Hey dtanner, how's it going? [19:00] hey firebird619 , going ok. yourself? [19:00] heh yea dtanner. [19:00] going excellent, thanks. [19:00] the medical community in the US are "never" PRO-active because they would not have any sick patients [19:01] they put out pamphlets everywhere and call that being pro-active [19:02] they shoudl *listen* to patients but I have noticed when you try to explain how you have been feeling they just look at you like " hmm I AM the doctor ... how dare you try and tell me what YOU think anout your OWN body?" [19:02] This all is so bizarre. [19:03] Here it's pretty simple: A doctor says you need a treatment, and you get it. Period. End of story. [19:03] eviljames, put me as your spouse [19:03] let me come there and get treatmen [19:03] Dentistry is 'not necessary' though. [19:03] ie: for pay [19:04] i have health insurance [19:04] it's good [19:04] but i dont care, the U.S. is gay [19:04] (republicans) gET OUT OF HERE THEN [19:04] hahahahah You should say that in Texas [19:04] See how long it takes before you have to _use_ your health insurance. [19:04] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [19:05] jeev, i have news for you, the democrats are just as corrupt and greedy as the republicans [19:05] yes they are Pig_Pen [19:05] Darn Tooting! [19:05] it is all the same [19:05] i know Pig_Pen [19:05] it's because people can't be fucking trusted [19:05] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] the democrats just talk about shit but they still steal [19:05] aint that the truth [19:05] They could be if they were held accountable. It's a failure of the people. [19:05] but hey! stop them middle easterners!!! [19:05] so while all the americans are staring at me [19:05] the politicians are stealing from americans. [19:06] As long as we're on the populist bandwagon, blame the bankers too! [19:06] because the people are too afraid of terrorism [19:06] they want you to be afraid [19:07] i often ask myself, all these assholes are committing fraud, why aren't i? [19:07] youre more likely to be hurt or killed in an automobile accident than hurt or killed by a terrorist [19:07] i thought theys aid more like [19:07] said more likely to get hit by lightning [19:07] than "terrorism' [19:07] " [19:07] that or a tornado [19:08] tornado of souls \o/ megadeth [19:08] or a incompetant doctor [19:08] anyone here got good enlgish? [19:08] daftpunk1359, i gots good enrgish [19:08] Pig_Pen, i think they leave cell phones in people nowadays [19:08] deco. i am serious i need help desperately [19:08] daftpunk1359, i do [19:08] i wrote a letter to a prof [19:09] and want to know if it makes sense [19:09] http://pastebin.com/m71317ece [19:09] i dont want to get shot. [19:09] reading [19:09] dude: you're doomed [19:09] thanks laot [19:09] african witch doctors are more successful in treating most common ailments than US doctors [19:09] hahaha no. [19:10] US doctors only like monies [19:10] the letter looks ok to me [19:11] daftpunk1359, its good [19:11] everyone else enjoys humanity [19:11] are you sure? does my request look clear? [19:11] daftpunk1359, yeah its clear [19:11] ok. thanks. no need to make changes yea? [19:11] it looks perfect except you left out the 419 scam [19:11] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] which 419 scam? [19:12] just kidding, dont put that in [19:12] lol [19:12] daftpunk1359, its good to send [19:12] alright. thanks alot guys. i hope i my request. [19:12] np [19:13] i bet that is what the real reason behind obama's socialized medicine is, just to squeeze some cash out of the medical industry [19:14] Pig_Pen, good. [19:14] pharmaceutical companies shouldn't be making that much profit. [19:14] it is just motivation to get more money, obama wont follow through [19:14] big parma controls a lot of things in this country with the monies and lobbyists [19:14] too bad he has no power, no president truly does [19:15] it doesn't get to him if the companies buy out congres [19:15] i just realized that im spending some time lately in this channel and i don't even use slackware o_O [19:15] deco, if you use fedora i'm going to kick your ass [19:15] it is not just obama, all those democats in congress & the senate [19:15] ahh, not the republicans eh [19:15] jeev, no ubuntu :P [19:15] even worse deco [19:15] jeev: planning on switching to fedora :P [19:15] republicans too, but right now the democats dominate [19:16] i'd rather die [19:16] Pig_Pen, ahh so what do you have to show for the past 8 years of getting our asses reemed by fear mongers? [19:16] jeev: apart from slackware what do you recommend ? [19:17] deco freebsd [19:17] deco: slackware64 [19:17] i quit driving an 18 wheeler and got a job in construction as contract labor paid cash under the table [19:17] im planning on ditching ubuntu competently im no longer a beginner so gonna go big now:P [19:17] New York has a protest happening because Republicans took over the Senate due to two people going to Republican and they are crooked [19:17] Pig_Pen, .. [19:18] thats the only change in my life, i got off the road as soon as possible [19:19] i decided after sept 11 it was time to stay close to home [19:19] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [19:19] how come [19:19] Because they might fly planes into your truck? :P [19:19] Action: eviljames ducks and covers [19:19] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] family, i have a wife i love very much and two boys i need to make sure stay out of trouble [19:19] anyone use nvclock? or have a different way to turn up an nvidia card fan [19:20] Pig_Pen, how do you feel towards arabs? [19:20] as long as they dont want to chop my head off for being an atheist [19:22] people are mostly the same (except for extremest nutcases) most all people just want to survive and prosper [19:22] too bad most americans dont think like you [19:23] and extremest nutcases comes in all races, christians, muslims, etc... [19:23] damn straight [19:23] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-71-186-11-16.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] americans are too blind to see their nutcases cause everything that comes back [19:23] god i wish someone kills george dubbya [19:24] i have deep hope that he will be charged with war crimes [19:24] don't bunch all of us americans together just because our government is full of idiots. we see the nutcases and mostly just want to live and let live. [19:25] i dont think gwb was that bright, i think the brains behind him was his vice president and rumsfeld [19:25] gwm was a sock puppet for the vice president who probably had the real power, cheny [19:25] dtanner, americans are too stupid to revolt, half the population believes in the government pre-obama, they think 9/11 was actual arabs doing that shit.. and most americans are too busy floating in debt where they can't do shit to act [19:25] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:25] cheney* [19:26] i think the only way to solve these problems to end american humanity [19:27] it would take a military coop, the average citizen would end up in prison or killed if they went to washington to do anything [19:27] yea [19:27] or it'd take a massive EU invasion [19:28] and maybe we could think how they think [19:28] since most of them know it was a conspiracy [19:28] cj1232145 (n=cj123214@S0106001217e2c80e.ok.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] send the spanish inquisition ! [19:28] what would be the speed difference between buying a external harddrive to install linux on rather than an internal one? I know internal is faster, but by how much? [19:28] antiwire may want documented proof [19:28] if you ask now, i dont have it. [19:28] i have no opinion on that 9/11 thing, i dont know who actually did it so i have no opinion [19:28] cj1232145, i dont know. noticable for me [19:29] external, you have to rely on usb and shit latencies.. [19:29] i try not to use external anything if i can [19:29] Pig_Pen: ditto [19:29] oh well, at least you're not a nutcase [19:30] jeev: yeah I know. Was it like unbearable, though? Im trying to install linux inside a friends system and there is no place to fit in another internal harddrive. :( [19:30] cj1232145, delete windows :-O [19:30] cj1232145: it will not be unbearable [19:31] deco: Well I dont want to send him to the point of no return. If he doesnt like it, I dont want to be the person whos the asshole :P [19:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:31] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust404.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [19:31] dtanner: k [19:31] cj1232145, if it's for a friend who doesnlt know squat [19:31] just put it [19:31] on the external.. [19:31] cj1232145, why not just live cd than? [19:31] :P [19:31] tell him to get an external usb harddrive and store all his personal data on it, i know even the most bloated windows cant consume all of most modern harddrives [19:32] deco: I think he wants more of an experience than that. But I may get him to do that, just leave him with the disk for a night [19:32] cj1232145, what distro are you gonna give him? [19:33] i bet if you totally wiped the drives, did a clean install of windows, kept windows in a 20 gig partition i am sure you can make room for Linux [19:33] deco: ubuntu, but I decided to ask here cause #ubuntu makes me mad :/ [19:33] cj1232145, that's what i used when i was a beginner now im moving on :P [19:33] Pig_Pen: he has no windows install cd [19:33] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-71-186-11-16.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:33] deco: me too :) I love slackware so much more [19:34] how much free disk space does he have and how must disk space is windows using, i bet you could clean out C:/WINIT/temp and internet explorer cache and defragment you might be able to squeeze linux in it [19:34] cj1232145, like someone said on another channel "ubuntu ancient african word for i don't know how to install debian " :P [19:35] Pig_Pen: hmm.... good idea [19:36] deco: LOL. Im gonna remember that. I hate the look and feel of ubuntu, along with their terrible catch phrase. [19:36] cj1232145, for human beings ...... T_T [19:36] plus whats in My Documents, tell him to delete all the crap he does not absolutly need before defragmenting [19:38] i dont use windows myself, but i do have to troubleshoot it on occasion for a relative of mine [19:38] yeah. i think ill get him to do that. [19:38] k, thanks guys. :) [19:38] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:39] is kde4 .2 available for slackware ? [19:39] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:39] cj1232145 (n=cj123214@S0106001217e2c80e.ok.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [19:40] i know it's on slackare64-current [19:40] 4.2.4 i think [19:40] slackware64-current [19:41] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:41] jeev. thanks [19:42] deco: don't install that to 12.2 or lower versioned releases [19:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat jeev this is what needs to happen to the US government, personally i am not capable of doing this, it would take all branches of the US Armed forces to those those dirty crooks out of office [19:42] antiwire, nope, gonna try slackware for the first time later [19:43] /s/those/throw [19:43] damn! that link got messed up [19:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'etat [19:44] Pig_Pen, if that were to happen, israel err.. the "arabs" would hit us again [19:44] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:44] coupe de gras [19:44] and then media would blame it on the overthrowing of the gay government [19:44] naw, they would be more scared than ever, because the next government might not be as nice to other nations [19:45] look at china, nobody gives them touble, the chinese army would go kick their ass without asking questions [19:46] noob question. if i wanted to run slackware 64 current, where can I DL the iso to install? or is there some other method [19:47] There is no official ISO for the current line. [19:47] You can try makign your own, or use the generated ones. [19:47] or use alienBOB [19:48] or use alienBOB's rsync script and mini install iso [19:48] HoldMyPocket: generaly way is you download the mirror. and make your own iso, or isntall from the local mirror. [19:48] hmm i'll have to look into this, thank you for giving me a head start [19:48] sh mirror-slackware-current.sh -a x86_64 -f -o DVD -m slackware.mirrors.tds.net::slackware/slackware64-current [19:48] that's what i do. [19:48] beware that rsync script, slackware is about 4 gigs of files [19:49] perhaps this is beyond my ability [19:49] at this point [19:49] Learn about maintaining a Slackware mirror. That is a big portion of that equation. [19:49] Hmmmm [19:50] HoldMyPocket: and lsackware-current asumes you know what you are doing. ;) [19:50] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [19:50] BP{k}, the installer supports http and ftp methods, so couldn't one just get the mini iso and use a mirror to install from directly? [19:50] heh i hardly know what i'm doing =p [19:50] That's kinda evil though... [19:50] BP{k}: s/lsackware-current/slackware-current/ ;) [19:50] so are you saying i would use my slackware 12.2 version, and sync with the slackware 64-current mirror? [19:50] nheco_ (n=nheco@201-89-166-215.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:51] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:51] HoldMyPocket, no. [19:51] You'd still need the proper initrd. [19:51] ok, i'll mirror the dvd if you want [19:51] Since that holds the Slackware64 setup scripts. [19:51] brb [19:51] Motoko-chan; those are *really* intended to be used from local mirrors. *shrugs* Possibly it might work, I don't know. I just upgrade all computers here from the local fileserver; regardless of version [19:52] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-168-217.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:52] Nick change: nheco_ -> nheco [19:52] BP{k}, I did have it work once when I had to get something done on a remote ESXi server. [19:52] But yes, I usually NFS mount from a local mirror. [19:52] Action: Motoko-chan needs to remember to add the new current to the mirror pull [19:53] i'll have to spend some time reading up tomorrow morning, thanks for the guidance [19:54] building latest iso [19:55] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:56] why does slackware not manage dependencies? [19:57] Because it doesn't. [19:57] because it is better that way. simple answer. [19:58] dtanner, why is it better ? [19:58] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [19:59] tha would take the long answer , which by the way is all ovetr the net, google it. i don't feel like giving you the long answer. [19:59] oh here we go [19:59] antiwire: not from me. i am done with that convo. =) [20:01] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:02] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] i should have made my / partition larger. argh. or at least made /usr a seperate partition ( which i usually do ) [20:02] deco: in short; slackware wasn't designed to handle dependencies, And most of us really prefer it that way. [20:02] gonna have to do some "parted" magic [20:03] abracadabra :P [20:03] =) [20:04] wassup firebird619 ? [20:05] nothing much, yourself? Worked on the guide a bit more earlier and sent to eviljames. [20:05] dcc it please? [20:05] sure [20:05] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:05] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] is it uploaded yet? [20:06] there ya go. [20:06] thx [20:06] He was going to upload, not sure if he has yet or not. He's on his way home. [20:06] HoldMyPocket, i'll have cd1 in 3 minutes for download [20:06] i'm ftping it to my public network hehe [20:07] dtanner: very minor things, logo issue fixed, and images, etc. in their own directories to make it a bit neater. [20:07] firebird619: i like the new "look" [20:07] fmor the update you sent me the other day [20:07] from* [20:08] dtanner: Also, there's a flicker issue in FF with the text scroller, has yet to be resolved. [20:08] Yeah, this is pretty much the same except for the logo. IE doesn't like transparency. :) [20:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:08] that blows [20:08] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:08] haven't used IE in many years [20:09] yeah, sure does, but I kept the logo pretty much the same, just without transparency. [20:09] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-74-69-172-241.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Also, those couple spelling errors were fixed. :P [20:09] ah , thank you :P [20:09] you're welcome. [20:09] those werre driving me crazy for some reason [20:10] heh [20:10] yeah, they didn't look right. [20:11] dtanner: It sure is a far cry look wise from the first one. [20:11] have you been using Ardour much ? [20:12] firebird619: yes it is [20:12] not so much lately no, played around with it quite a bit there to begin with though. It's an excellent app. [20:12] you are going to need some external hardware to make use out of it [20:12] make MUCH use out of it anyways [20:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] haha, yeah. If I had the financial ability to do so, I'd have a nice new machine, but stuff like that just isn't in the cards. [20:13] digidesign equipment is the way to go for physical inputs [20:13] yeah , i want to build a new box myself soonish [20:14] yeah, there's a lot of great equipment out there. You've been doing much with your equipment lately? [20:14] i still need to get a new monitro so i can finish building my StuidioS box [20:14] amazon10x_ (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] yeah, i have been recording several songs [20:14] 24-26 inch widescreen? :P [20:14] < typo king [20:15] thats why i buy used junk at bargain prices firebird619 [20:15] Ardour would look nice on one of them. I couldn't imagine using Ardour or the other apps on my old 15 inch monitors, oh man that would suck. [20:16] dtanner: At least I have a half way decent machine. The sound cards good. [20:16] I saw a $10,000.00 digidesign board + mac computer with all the audio software on it with a friggin HUGE monitro at guitar center the other day [20:16] WOW [20:16] you bought it right? :P [20:16] firebird619: the hardly sell traditional ( non - PC ) recording equipment anymore [20:17] I am not sure how big the monitor was but you could see the mixer sliders/etc on the monitor in detail from 10' away on the screen [20:17] nice [20:18] it was a full rig to say the least [20:18] The desk I have now barely fits my 22" monitor, If I went any bigger size, I'd need a big open table. :P [20:19] most desks are 48 inches wide and 24 inches from front to back, how small is your desk firebird619 [20:19] good evening, everyone [20:19] My desk isn't small by any means, it's just the way the hutch is divided, etc. that makes the monitor space smaller. [20:20] if anyone wants a link to slackware64-current disc1 through 3 isos.. msg me, it's current as of 20 minutes ago [20:20] NukeDukem: 41.5 x 19.5 [20:20] ah, you have one of those with the shelves and stuff on the top part [20:20] yeah [20:20] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:20] Action: BP{k} will pass, I'll roll my own if I need 'em. [20:21] lol [20:21] yeah I'll take some ISO from jeev [20:21] YEAH RIGHT [20:21] heh [20:21] i just built it youa ss munch [20:21] dtanner: yeah, full rig, but well worth it if you have the cash. :) [20:21] jeev: so? and? [20:21] some people may not be able to build it. [20:22] i know an inexpensive alternative for getting a new desk, go to a hardware store and buy a 4 foot section of free floating kitchen countertop and two table legs, mount the back side to a wall and use the table legs to support the front side [20:22] shit, give up bandwidth, space and time and people hate you [20:22] No..be an overall idiot and people hate you o.O [20:22] cost about half what a new desk would cost [20:22] yht|pulang (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:22] NukeDukem: yeah, that'd be a neat idea. [20:22] why thanks straterra. [20:22] You're welcome [20:22] bbiab [20:23] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:23] lol [20:23] heh [20:23] it's amazing how some of you ride dick then bitch [20:24] Oh, I never rode your dick [20:24] You can believe that [20:24] we are just the average grumpy slackers. j/k [20:24] ahh, nothing like some eloquence [20:24] dtanner, not including you [20:24] ananke: =) [20:25] ananke: how is the weather in my favorite place ? [20:25] ananke: lucky dog , all the college crowd from VA TECH [20:25] maybe that gets old after a while though [20:25] dtanner : warm. today hit 85, waiting for some rain. it's been actually very rainy spring [20:25] we need more rain here [20:26] 91F right now [20:26] i'm always happy when the students are gone. no traffic. although tech goes into overdrive with construction, it's everywhere [20:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] ananke: do you get up to the Parkway much ? or take the parkway all the way to the valley ? [20:26] dtanner : i try to, although haven't been there this year yet [too busy at home] [20:27] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:27] but i go there for picnics and such. beautiful scenery [20:27] you in christiansburg or blacksburg ? [20:27] cburg. bburg is a bit too expensive to live in [although that's starting to even out] [20:27] brb [20:27] i always thought of blacksburg as a big small town [20:30] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [20:30] eventually i want to move back to the new river valley area. wonderful climate and two major mountain ranges. beautiful place [20:31] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:31] bburg has grown, and so did cburg [20:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] i lived and worked there from 1900 - 1994 [20:32] 1990* [20:32] and vtech can't seem to stop growing. we just lost most of our parking, due to a new building [20:32] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] so i haven't seen the place in many years [20:33] dtanner : take a look at google earth. just in the last couple of months they finally got better resolution aerial photos of this region, eventhough they're from 2007 [20:34] awesome [20:34] googleearth latest version keep sfreezing up here *shrug* [20:34] hippos is done downloading [20:34] brb [20:34] http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=112865839592127120657.00044b425aa10b0a5b643 <- and click 'satelite' [20:35] woah! as you said , nice resolution. [20:36] that's my building, it got finished in 2004 or so. 3 o'clock from us is life sciences, that got finished last year [20:37] most of the parking to the north of us is now fenced off and huge construction is beginning on another new building [20:37] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [20:38] that one parking lot is huge [20:38] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:38] and that is not even the main VT campus [20:38] vt? [20:38] exactly [20:38] grekkos: Virginia Tech [20:38] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-89-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:39] oooh nice [20:39] Hey ananke [20:39] the parking lot to our left, is 'the cage'. we may need to start parking there eventually [20:39] hey [20:40] ananke: where would be the best town to live in as and be close to VT ? [20:40] maybe radford ? [20:40] the outlying areas ? [20:40] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:41] cburg. right now connecting roads to radford are still crappy, while cburg is connected to bburg via 460 bypass. [20:41] I lived in Pulaski for four years [20:41] gotcha [20:41] ohh, so you're used to a long commute [20:41] some of my coworkers live in pulaski, some in giles, some in cburg, some in bburg, and one of my admins lives in withville [20:41] wythville [20:42] well , my work range covered a 100 mile radius and the company provided the vehicle when i lived there. [20:42] i was a central office and cell site techncian [20:42] so we had had many cell sites to take care of [20:42] Wait, wait.. WAIT! jeev's, you put 40psi of air in your gut? Your stomach? [20:42] so pulaski was about the middle of my range [20:42] Ah shit [20:42] /fail [20:42] dtanner : ahh [20:42] damn chat window was scrolled up all the way to the top. [20:43] lol agentc0re [20:43] it was only exaggeration [20:43] ananke: ever heard of "Angels Rest" mountain ? [20:43] dtanner : hmm, nope [20:43] ananke: we had ( and there still is) a cell site at the top of that mountain. we had to build the damn road up the mountain to build it . [20:44] it was outside of radford about 10 miles [20:44] ouch [20:44] heck, my boss lives in giles, and he barely gets any wireless signal [20:45] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) joined ##slackware. [20:45] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [20:45] yeah , that is a challenging area for coverage because of the terrain breaking line of sight [20:45] so many sites are required to get the weak spots covered [20:46] it's still a great area to live. and if you can get a job with tech, you're set [20:46] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:47] kozmix (n=kozmix@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:47] yup. out of all the places i have lived that area is my favorite. [20:48] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] I used to know all the names of the small surrounding towns by heart having to travel around to cell sites. i would have to look at a map to remember all the names. [20:49] i used to go outside of my house and stand on the porch and take pictures and send them out as scenic postcards. remarkably beautiful. [20:49] whoah [20:49] I'm in two places at once [20:50] haha I forgot I left screen on the other machine [20:50] there's meds you can take to help control your schizophrenia... [20:50] haha [20:50] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [20:51] yeah, and i just found a tick on my neck. damn bastard, had to take it outside and burn it [20:52] ananke: you should've taken it to be checked for lyme's disease [20:52] amazon10x, thankfully it hasn't bitten me yet [20:53] "Villains, you face... The Tick!" [20:53] oh good [20:53] but that's a good idea. on a semi related note, i've taken some insects before to vt's entymology dept [20:54] wonder how dirty you have to be to get one of those.. [20:54] time for some good ol' pesticide [20:54] bryanlharris (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] jeev : 'dirty'? i think you're confusing ticks with something else [20:55] if I worked at the entomology place and you brought me a bug that bit you, I wouldn't be able to resist telling you "Holy shit, that thing could kill an elephant with one bite" [20:55] :) still, i'd consider someone who had a tick on them dirty.. even though it has nothing to do with them [20:55] heh Urchlay, that's messed up [20:55] jeev : you obviously have never lived outside of a city [20:56] haha [20:56] my sense of humor keeps me from having a real job... [20:56] do ticks go after the nutritious like mosquitos ? [20:56] this is amazing. [20:56] jeev : do you know what ticks are? [20:56] yea, i do. [20:56] Ticks suck. [20:56] i have a hard time believing it [20:56] literally [20:57] ananke, did you not read what i said above? i know it has nothing to do with being dirty. [20:57] jeev: you can pick up a tick in So Cal too but since you haven't peeled your ass off your chair in over 8 years you probably wouldn't know about that [20:57] go take a hike somewhere man [20:57] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] get some fresh air [20:57] jesus christ, you guys love grabbing and jabbing eh? [20:57] antiwire, you're 3 minutes late for that. it was a joke, get a life.. get a job. [20:57] It's what we live for. [20:57] im out and about more than you are. [20:57] hahaha [20:58] jeev : you're the one who showed off some odd prejudice [20:58] ananke, then when i asked you a question comparing ticks and mosquitos, you chose to ignore it and jab again. [20:58] bleah, do we really have to have a fight about such a trivial thing? [20:58] Urchlay, apparently i'm annoying and an idiot so they hit me when they could [20:58] if I were in charge, you'd both have to go sit in the corner [20:58] i really dont care anyway [20:58] Trivial or not, so what? FIGHT!! [20:58] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] jeev : that's your own fault [20:59] ifconfig rob0 down [20:59] L) [20:59] (eh, that's the most retarded smiley I've ever typed...) [20:59] that's right, i need to ask someone who actually knows. [20:59] Get with the times, ifconfig is SO 1990's. [20:59] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 rob0_stop then? [21:00] jeev : in the last 30 mins, the only things i've seen you contribute have been ' it's amazing how some of you ride dick then bitch [21:00] (hey, wait, rc.inet1 uses... ifconfig!) [21:00] rob0: PiterPunk has even posted a version rc.inet1 migrated over to iproute2 [21:00] ananke, that's the last 30 minutes, i tried to contribute an iso to a newbie and everyone started to blabb [21:00] jeev : and ' wonder how dirty you have to be to get one of those..' [21:00] rob0: he said it's strictly for fun and testing though [21:01] some distros already 'shun' ifconfig and advocate ip [21:01] maybe I'm getting old or something, I wouldn't really call iproute2 "fun" [21:01] useful and versatile, yes [21:01] "ip" is fun, and nutritious [21:01] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [21:02] i just wish ip had an ifconfig-like output mode. i find that line breaks between interfaces really make it more readable, and ip's output is as readable as crappy solaris ifconfig [21:02] you know, it is a little chaotic looking [21:02] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: ""Gone Fishing"" [21:03] btw, i assume that iproute2=ip [21:03] yeah [21:03] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] aye [21:04] yeah, 'ip a' is a bit harder to read than 'ifconfig'. i guess i'm used to the good ol' ifconfig [21:04] the syntax you use for "ip" commands reminds me of cisco IOS a bit [21:04] hey is there some trick I'm missing when it comes to using mv to move a directory into another directory where the first directory's name already exists and contains files? [21:04] the Directory not empty error [21:05] -f isn't helping me [21:05] wait, you have something like... a/1 a/2 a/3, and b/a/4? [21:05] antiwire : what would you like the result to be? [21:05] and you want to move a into b/a? [21:05] mv folder/* [21:06] I would be interested in seeing a version of rc.inet1 which uses iproute2 package, where is that at? [21:06] Well, I'd like mv to just do it and force it to happen even though the directory already exists and contains files [21:06] mv a/* b/a <--- ? [21:06] Where is the "scanner" module? [21:07] what scanner module? [21:07] something relating to page scanning, or wireless network scanning, or tv tuners...? [21:08] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-71-186-11-16.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] iwscan? [21:08] iwlist i mean [21:08] ...and are you actually asking about a kernel module? No kernel module by that name... [21:08] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-71-186-11-16.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:09] he's probablyy trying to use a scanner heh [21:09] thanks guys, I was not thinking about the problem clearly. [21:12] The "scanner" module for SANE [21:13] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html [21:16] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.18.46) joined ##slackware. [21:17] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:18] just out of curiosity what media player is everyone here using [21:18] dun dun dun [21:19] winamp, on windows :) i dont bother to transfer music to slack hehe [21:19] hehe [21:20] well I am actually mounting my home linux at work, and using slack there to play the music [21:22] hi [21:23] i'm searching for the package or source code which make having etherwake command [21:23] i still don't find it ! [21:23] jeev: shouldn't you mention at you don't even have slackware on a real system though? [21:23] i want to proceed for a wake on lan [21:23] at/that [21:24] can someone help me ? [21:24] please [21:25] grekkos_: amarok or xmms and occasionally Songbird. [21:25] BP{k}: i haven't tried songbird yet... I actually like xmms the best, but I need to find that plugin for mp4 support [21:25] i like mpd, mpc and sonata :-) [21:25] i do antiwire. i have it at th e office on the Q8200 or whatever it is. [21:26] amarok sometimes [21:26] vlc too [21:26] that'all enough [21:26] grekkos_: hmm I am not too impressed with Songbird. It's okay, and the play video feature is sort of nice. [21:28] hmm is it bad to try and change my tty resolution to 1900x1080? [21:28] paissad: this builds for me and runs http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/e/etherwake/etherwake_1.09.orig.tar.gz [21:28] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:28] paissad: it runs but i have no ability to test if it works ;) [21:29] antiwire, ok thanks i try it ! [21:29] test* [21:31] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:32] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:33] paissad: I also just did it again but I applied this patch first http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/e/etherwake/etherwake_1.09-2.diff.gz [21:34] either way though [21:34] antiwire, ok, i note [21:34] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [21:36] looking at that patch though..i doubt we need it ;) [21:36] Amarok grekkos [21:36] you know..we aren't debian and gcc works just freaking fine! [21:36] fred (n=fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) joined ##slackware. [21:37] haha [21:37] Nick change: fred -> Guest42946 [21:38] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [21:38] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] albertguedes (n=albert@189.38.226.155) joined ##slackware. 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[21:49] PiterPunk, irc is my drug. i cant not look [21:50] like the lights are on but nobody is home ;p [21:50] hahaha [21:50] thumbs: Yes, i rarely talk. I think my last talks are about the changed rc.inet1 and beta versions of slackpkg [21:51] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "reboot :)" [21:55] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:58] hi [21:58] I'm using this howto: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/53880-how-burn-vob-files.html#post482229 [21:58] to burn a dvd to disk [21:58] disc* [21:58] and it seems to have halted after finishing the burn, [21:59] i've got /dev/dvd0: closing disc [21:59] and it's just sitting there doing nothing after burning the disc [21:59] its my last dvd, and a very beautiful woman is waiting for me to come over with this disc burned to watch for date night please help lol [21:59] sounds like you'll be heading over to the rental store [22:00] bahahahah [22:00] haha [22:00] haha [22:00] what im concerned about is killing the process [22:00] and just taking the disc out [22:00] dartmouth: you better not keep her waiting long. [22:00] because if it's just taking a long time to close the burn i can wait for a few [22:00] dartmouth: is the drive light still active? [22:00] no its not [22:00] how long as it been? [22:00] about 5 or 10 minutes [22:01] i used [22:01] ~ [22:01] growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd0=/home/cpunches/from_hell.img [22:01] so how do i know if it finished closing the disc? [22:02] the terminal would go back to the prompt [22:02] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [22:02] well it hasn't [22:02] i vote for ejecting the disc and hoping it works [22:02] then it's still going or halted somehow. Does it show any errors? [22:02] is there a way to intervene? [22:02] no errors [22:02] does top show growisofs doing anything? [22:03] http://pastebin.com/m5abf4989 [22:03] albertguedes (n=albert@189.38.226.155) left ##slackware ("Deus é um fato."). [22:03] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] I'd kill growisofs and see if the disk plays for you [22:03] it isn't even showing growisofs at all in `ps waux` [22:04] hit enter [22:04] and if it doesn't, find the nearest video rental place. [22:04] just a new blank line [22:04] shit. [22:04] i hate not doing things right. [22:04] ps aux | grep growisofs [22:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] firebird619: thats what i used [22:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:04] ok [22:04] Action: dartmouth crosses fingers [22:04] dartmouth: it's not in there at all? [22:04] and it just give a new blank line? [22:04] yup [22:05] gave new line as in went back to the prompt? [22:05] dartmouth: and you hit enter at the growisofs term right? [22:05] firebird619: no new line as in 'this app is still running' new line [22:05] maybe it's done and didn't give you a prompt back [22:05] yup [22:05] ok [22:05] antiwire: thats what im hoping [22:05] here goes [22:05] dartmouth: eject that disk and test it [22:05] good luck [22:05] you could try to use -M again too [22:06] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:06] aw, jeez, it won't eject the disc [22:06] but i think you'll be fine [22:06] is the disk still spinning? can you hear it? [22:07] no my fscking terminals are all weird [22:07] its been doing this sometimes [22:07] paper clip time. [22:07] where i everything just hangs [22:07] but i'd also suggest you bring a back up movie dude [22:07] don't let this kill the mood. [22:07] DON'T FAIL. [22:07] haha [22:08] dartmouth: reset your terminal if the font gets all screwy [22:08] just type in reset [22:09] Girl: "So, you bring the movie" dartmouth: "Uh, no, I had technical difficulties" Girl: "No movie" dartmouth: "No, sorry, no movie" /girl slaps dartmouth. [22:09] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [22:10] darnit dartmouth. i started reading the 'jack the ripper' article on wikipedia and now i'm all creeped out [22:11] I'm more worried about the girl thinking Linux sucks after this. [22:11] that's unacceptable [22:11] haha [22:12] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:12] slKIvs (n=ivan@72.252.54.69) joined ##slackware. [22:12] s/unacceptable/unfathomable/ [22:12] i hope that video plays and without any pixelized uglyness from low resolution [22:12] I was playing with encoding today and had it working damn well [22:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "back later" [22:16] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) joined ##slackware. [22:18] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-55-204.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] http://satisfiction.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/farnsworth-copy.jpg [22:21] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-76-179-206-255.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:21] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [22:23] dchmelik (i=1000@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:28] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [22:31] lol [22:31] hey nooper [22:31] hi firebird619, how goes it? [22:31] It goes great, thanks. yourself? [22:31] not bad [22:31] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) joined ##slackware. [22:33] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:33] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:35] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) joined ##slackware. [22:35] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] What's going on with all of the mirrors? is it a transition to 64 bit? [22:37] 404 after 404..... [22:37] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.18.46) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:38] your guess is as good as any, they are probably busy updating packages [22:39] great... I just tried getting "gnash" to work and it doesn't play with youtube (or at least I don't play with gnashes rewritable scripts) [22:39] and now i'm stuck with a browser that crashes when video.google.com or youtube.com load, probably the same for other sites too. =( [22:41] erizoe, ff/flash should be stable [22:41] there was a problem about 1.5 yrs ago with crashes [22:42] you could try youtube-dl to download the video without a browser, then play with mplayer or xine [22:42] so look at what kind of extensions/plugins ur running [22:42] gnash as of last time i tried it over a year ago did not work well with youtube, etc [22:43] i'm going to empty /usr/lib/mozilla/plguins (or w/e it is) and start over because when i get in a hole like this i tend to get shit all over the place. [22:43] so i just ran "pkgtool" to get rid of seamonkey, and flash plugin(the real one) and gnash [22:44] then "installpkg seamonkey.tgz" and voile, it still crashed on www.youtube.com =) Vampire penguine: thanks for the tips, i'll look into ff/flash =DD [22:44] erizoe, make sure you save your boookmarks in ~.mozilla [22:44] b4 u nuke it [22:44] they're saved [22:44] Does anybody here is using an HP multi-funcional model F4280? [22:44] sme ppl dont [22:44] ;) [22:44] im not trying to be condescending in any sense [22:45] I mean, is somebody here using... [22:45] is it in cups when you try to set up [22:45] localhost:631 [22:45] wh nds vwls nywy? [22:45] hlp, m kbrd s brkn! [22:46] gt a nw 1 [22:46] hey the jewish dont use them... [22:46] vowels are everywhere. [22:46] hey vampire penguine, I just figured out "ff flash" is firefox flash =p thanks [22:46] neither did my Polish ex-gf, her name had 4 consonants in a row [22:46] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.42.53) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:46] that's where i was headed [22:47] CUPS can find the printer, however, when I print the test page it actually doesn't print anything :-( [22:47] does your firewall block it [22:47] do you have proper permissions [22:47] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] ? [22:47] are you in grouop [22:47] lots of reasons [22:47] daemon disk lp wheel floppy audio video cdrom games plugdev scanner users console [22:47] is it the proper ip your sending tooo [22:48] My groups [22:48] asarch: why the heck are you in that many groups? [22:48] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:48] Aren't they necessary? [22:49] normal users don't need to be in daemon, disk, lp, wheel [22:49] you can set up allowable users in localhost:631 [22:49] Action: cmk_zzz patching patching oracle, oh how fun oh how fun [22:49] the only groups a user needs are audio video cdrom games plugdev scanner and users [22:49] root determines who prints [22:49] $ groups [22:49] users floppy audio video cdrom plugdev vboxusers [22:49] Oh [22:49] the last is for virtualbox [22:49] root owns that process [22:50] How can I know the "Device URI"? [22:50] Action: asarch is writing about the groups... [22:50] is it on a nic or usb [22:50] if its a nic you need the ip [22:50] USB [22:51] "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03f0:2504 Hewlett-Packard" [22:51] The scanner works fine [22:51] do you have a firewall [22:52] iptables can block that port [22:52] No [22:52] Nick change: lee555J5 -> lee555J5_ [22:52] I don't have any firewall [22:52] Does Slackware have any by default? [22:52] Nick change: lee555J5_ -> lee555J5 [22:52] it install iptables [22:52] but you have to configure it [22:53] are you on the same subnet as the printer [22:53] http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-F4280_All-in-one [22:53] ? [22:53] Subnet [22:53] The printer is attached via USB to the laptop [22:53] do you have hplip installed [22:53] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [22:53] Yes, I do [22:53] so you dont have a network then [22:54] No [22:54] Any network [22:54] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74135 2009-06-08 02:40 hplip-2.8.10-i486-1 [22:54] ye gods. I used to be able to search for stuff like "440hz test tone" and just find a downloadable wav file. These days I find pay-to-download, and ring tones (who would use a 400Hz test tone for a ring tone?!) [22:55] Urchlay: I notice that too. There's so much pay-to-download stuff now, it sucks. [22:55] The Linux Printing Org says I can use the HPLIP driver, however if I use it I get: [22:55] /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed [22:55] asarch, did you start cups? [22:55] makes sense for things that are copyrighted and cost money, but a test tone? [22:55] Next to the printer's name [22:55] beeeeeeeep [22:56] Urchlay: haha, make your own? :P [22:56] Yes, I did a chmo +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups [22:56] And then restarted my laptop [22:56] so happens "speaker-test -t sine" plays a 400Hz tone on a linux box (I just discovered this) [22:56] 3246 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/cupsd [22:56] I just want to tune my freaking guitar [22:56] Urchlay: sweet, I didn't know that either. [22:56] You can use a piano for that [22:56] ...Urchlay [22:57] If you have one you can. [22:57] Urchlay: try youtube, they have some guitar tuners [22:57] buy me a piano and rent me a house big enough to keep a piano in :( [22:57] Oh [22:57] Urchlay: also in sweden if you pick up the phone you get 440hz [22:57] A! [22:57] Action: edman007 kicks firebird619 [22:57] handy [22:57] Action: firebird619 buys Urchlay a piano as it is the cheaper of the two options. ;) [22:57] do you have the foomatic stuff installed [22:57] Action: firebird619 kicks edman007 back. [22:57] Foomatic? [22:57] I've tuned to 60Hz hum before (it's *almost* a B flat) [22:57] what is foomatic [22:57] edman007: How's it going? still in FL or back home? [22:58] ow :( [22:58] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1633 2009-06-08 02:39 foomatic-filters-3.0_20080211-i486-1 [22:58] still in FL [22:58] edman007: sweet, weather good? [22:58] i spent about 40 minutes swimming today, i think i got a little sunburn [22:59] i burn really easy... [22:59] asarch, bryanlharris: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/Foomatic [22:59] but the weather is really nice, lots of sun :) [22:59] oh cool [22:59] now I wonder how (if) speaker-test can play other tones than 440 [22:59] maybe you can get it to do those rtmf dial tones right? [22:59] edman007: cool. It's been cool and rainy here the past few days. [23:00] yep. -f [23:00] oops dtmf [23:00] edman007: yeah....I don't tan, I catch on fire and roast. I stay out of the sun when possible. [23:00] y0 hitest, how's it going? [23:00] Wow, a lot of foomatic packages [23:00] Thank you very much firebird619 [23:01] Let's see [23:01] don't see them on SB [23:01] hitest, i've been trying hard, after a week i can finally tell my arms have a tiny bit of tan, now it takes almost an hour of sitting in the car to get a burn! [23:01] hi firebird619, I'm doing well, ty. done my paperwork for the day, so just relaxin. are you okay? [23:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433166.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Not even in slapt-get [23:02] Yeah, I'm great, thank you. I updated and was messing around with slackware-current and KDE4 today. :) [23:02] hitest, i think the tan makes it worse, without the tan i just reflect the light :) [23:02] edman007: yeah, once I've become a crispy critter then I tan easier as well, painful tho:) ha-ha, good one about reflecting light;) [23:03] AHH, edman007, you're blinding me, please stop. :P [23:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:03] lol [23:03] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:04] firebird619: cool. how do you like -current. I'm like KDE4 on my freebsd partition [23:04] Thank you very much [23:04] See you later [23:04] :-) [23:04] Have a nice day [23:04] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:05] hitest: I'm loving it. KDE4 is great. If I was on -current aside from in a vm, I'd for sure be using KDE4. [23:05] oh, and sox has a synth mode, could do test tones that way too [23:05] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] play -n -c1 synth sin %-12 sin %-9 sin %-5 sin %-2 fade q 0.1 1 0.1 [23:05] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [23:05] plays a synthesised `A minor seventh' chord with a pipe-organ sound [23:05] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] Urchlay, could you believe i'm dead sexy on the piano but unable to read notes anymore ? [23:06] you took lessons as a little kid? [23:06] yea man [23:06] well, i could read.. but it's some weird dyslexia or some moment where my mind and hands aren't in sync [23:06] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-44.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] i've been playing for 22 years? [23:07] I could believe it, I learned to read music at age 5 or 6, had to re-learn as an adult [23:07] firebird619: yeah KDE4 rocks. I'm really looking forward to KDE 4.2.4 in Slackware64. I'm finding KDE 4.2.2 in freebsd a bit buggy. konsole crashes in freebsd all the time. wtf?! [23:07] i swear when i play in front of others.. and i mess up most of the time because my fingers run away [23:07] practice, young padawan [23:07] hitest: yeah, the updates I did on -current today (32bit) included 4.2.4. [23:07] it's better if i act like i have a condition [23:08] is OK, I never practice bass or guitar either, and I should [23:08] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [23:08] i guess i lack patience. [23:09] ugh, I lack new strings, these are shot [23:09] old strings are great [23:09] unless they are growing rust [23:09] nah, they're not rusting yet [23:09] but they sound dead and blah [23:09] still got a few years left in them yet :D [23:10] (this is a bass, I play it finger and slap style) [23:10] aye [23:10] when i was little, my dad and uncles told me that once you can play bass, you could play any other instrument [23:10] i only play the 6 string [23:11] well, I do own a 6-string bass [23:11] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] need repairs before it's really playable though [23:11] the fret boards on those SSBs are massive [23:12] yeah, if you flot a 6-string in the ocean, the Navy will spot it and start trying to land F-14s on it [23:12] heh [23:12] i'd do anything to fly a jet like that [23:12] diven: the sickest basses I've ever seen: http://lordonly.net/lojtbas3.htm [23:13] eh, and the 8-string one. The bottom string is an F#, like 15Hz, the string looks like the cord from a weed whacker [23:13] Urchlay, you would probably need back surgery after playing that a few times [23:13] I would, yah [23:14] that guy seems to play them pretty well, saw them live once [23:14] seems like orlando has more parents that send their children to games.. in LA, you'll rarely see children in the front row or second row [23:15] (basketball) [23:15] i mean the expensive seats [23:15] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:15] I bet that's because basketball fans are a lot scarier in LA [23:16] i hate the lakers because of their fans [23:16] all the movie stars and what not [23:16] they're not scary, they're stupid. [23:16] (don't actually know, never been to LA, but orlando's a really mellow town...) [23:16] stupid people can be scary too [23:16] Urchlay, that goes for RAIDERS fans. [23:16] just a bunch of drunk, hazardous and overweight people [23:16] haha [23:16] you describing the fans, or the players? [23:16] fans ;) the players are a given [23:16] (note: /me is not a sports fan at all) [23:17] heh, man my life revolves around playing football, basketball or baseball.. and i haven't done either for a while.. other than the gym two weeks ago. [23:17] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] i'm going to turn into a balloon if i continue eating like this and not exercising. [23:21] nah, you'll become a blimp. :P [23:21] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [23:22] same thing ;) [23:22] only bigger. :P [23:22] balloon encompasses far to many variations in size. water balloon, hot air balloon... :P [23:22] actually I might watch football if they reverse the way the drug testing works [23:23] require some minimum amount of steroids, coke, crystal meth [23:23] that would be interesting [23:23] inspiron630 (n=aldskfj@c-69-140-223-165.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] does aptitude work with slackware [23:23] (it's not really that much less healthy that being a pro football player already is) [23:23] eh, no [23:24] no, it does not. [23:24] aptitude is for systems that use apt [23:24] i.e. Debian/Ubuntu and derivatives. [23:24] BOXEN IS NOT FUNNY FYI [23:24] .... [23:25] who are you talking to, why are you shouting? [23:25] tourettes [23:25] orly? [23:26] there a rsync mirror for slackware [23:26] i can't find one [23:26] must have tit [23:26] look harder [23:26] firebird619 thats a cool name [23:26] firebird619 for a homo [23:27] lol [23:27] what is slapt-get like [23:28] i'm looking for something like apt-get or yum [23:28] typing tourettes? [23:28] anyway you're wrong: "boxen" is funny [23:28] not side-splittingly hilarious, but sometimes worth a chuckle at least [23:29] is there no apt like package management tool still :( [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] nope [23:30] well, there's slackpkg, which is vaguely similar to apt-get (very vaguely) [23:30] but nothing like aptitude [23:30] (and why? because we don't want one...) [23:30] nothing dependancy driven [23:30] no, and never will be [23:30] :( [23:30] thankfully [23:31] how do you keep a clean file system [23:31] don't fill it with crap in the first place [23:31] when you update [23:32] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [23:32] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (95% of Full) [23:32] aah... obviously! [23:32] the package manager will cleanly remove old packages with "removepkg" or "upgradepkg" [23:32] daftpunk1359 (n=daftpunk@ppp-124-122-161-225.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:33] inspiron630: see slackbook.org - chapter 18. [23:33] pkgtool does the job:) [23:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] uzr: yes there are plenty of mirrors offering rsync. [23:36] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:37] inspiron630: what it won't do is decide "oh, nothing uses this package any more, I'll remove it"... which is a good thing [23:37] can i depend on installpkg to be able to have a pkg for any depenceny i find out that i need? [23:37] depends on who made the package and whether they're any good at it [23:38] if you're talking about official slackware packages, yes, anything you need as a dep for one of those, will be found elsewhere as an official package [23:38] i know why i like slackware but why do you guys like slackware [23:38] because it does what I tell it to, and stays out of my way [23:38] inspiron630: no you can't. It will not go out onto the net and find packages for you. [23:38] inspiron630: Control. 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