[00:01] actually, it seems like i have to switch to webkit after each page loads [00:01] which is completely useless [00:03] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.254.64) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:04] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [00:07] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [00:08] ah, gotta change kde's mime options..very weird [00:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.18.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:09] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:11] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.203.162) joined ##slackware. [00:11] bluebit (~bluebit@ma50736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: sleepy time :o [00:14] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:16] \o [00:16] heya Oak [00:17] hello MLanden :) [00:17] newslacker (root@72-161-90-177.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. 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[00:38] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-46-73.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:40] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:52] kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:52] you guys will be somewhat happy to know that i'll be installing slackware again...as soon as i get motivated to do so [00:54] Action: alisonken1lap passes some motivation to nyRednek [00:57] Wulf-is-not-here (~ASTRO-PUN@unaffiliated/wirewulf) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [00:58] pete_ (~pete@009.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:59] i am too lazy to uninstall slackware [00:59] ...? [01:00] not that i want to [01:01] Why would you even say such an ignorant thing? [01:01] you don't know me too well i see. [01:02] pete_ (~pete@009.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [01:02] Nope I just got on. [01:03] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:03] pete_ (~pete@009.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:09] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:09] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:11] Assuming my hardware is capable, is SATA hotplugging gonna work with slackware's kernel? [01:11] alisonken1lap: yeah, i dislike the way ffmpeg doesn't re-encode [01:11] nyRednek: ? doesn't reencode what? [01:11] on debian [01:12] ah [01:12] "completely free" concept. got it. [01:12] alisonken1lap: it *tries* to re-encode with h.264...dies with "illegal instruction" before encoding one frame [01:13] heh [01:13] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[01:34] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.51) left irc: Client Quit [01:36] pete_ (~pete@009.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:40] Khratos (~jespinal@66.128.60.148) joined ##slackware. [01:44] ok, going to install slack... [01:44] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: If I was to cheat, would you see right through me? If I sang a sad, sad, sad, sad song, would you give it to me? [01:50] m0ney (~m0@adsl-70-233-154-156.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-175-242.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:52] How can I make a symbolic in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ to point /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h might? [01:52] How can I make a symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ to point /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h? [01:53] ln -sfv /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h [01:54] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [01:58] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:58] but, why? [01:59] /usr/X11R6 is full of symlinks already [01:59] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:03] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:04] I get this error: /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:3566: When I try to compile a package. [02:04] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:04] that's not an error, that's _part_ of an error, what is the _full_ error? [02:06] adrien: This is the error:http://dpaste.com/240836/ [02:08] what was there *before* that? [02:08] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:09] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:11] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.99) joined ##slackware. [02:15] by the way, for i8xx issues: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU3Ng : shadow-fb will be used for these cards [02:19] Axius (~fd@92.82.68.182) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:22] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-0-204.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-0-204.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [02:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [02:24] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:24] sata_nv supports hotplug, evidentally. Rejoice brothers. [02:25] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:30] cryptopsy (ad216a76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.33.106.118) joined ##slackware. [02:30] anyone here mounting their blackberry as block device in linux? [02:31] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:33] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.99) joined ##slackware. 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[03:13] another midnight shift in the mushroom pit [03:14] alisonken1lap, lol... what does that means...? [03:14] "the mushroom pit" refers to the art of a good mushroom farm has the spores being grown in a manure pile in an underground dark cave [03:15] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] pete` (~user@012.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:17] cryptopsy (ad216a76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.33.106.118) left irc: Quit: Page closed [03:17] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-68-78.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:18] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5C03.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:21] john_dee (~id@95-29-11-47.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:22] alisonken1lap: should I fear for the servers? :P [03:23] hah [03:23] remember - we're GOOD mushrooms [03:23] xD [03:23] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-68-78.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:23] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [03:25] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-71.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:26] alisonken1lap, awesome! [03:27] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:31] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-83-34.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:37] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:42] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:47] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:47] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:01] grazymax (~grazymax@host121-130-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:04] rizitis (~netbook@79.107.132.134) joined ##slackware. [05:05] sahko, may pm you? [05:05] rizitis (~netbook@79.107.132.134) left irc: Changing host [05:05] rizitis (~netbook@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [05:09] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [05:09] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:09] tsccof (tsccof@201-89-157-24.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [05:11] surrounder: hi [05:11] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:12] nyRednek: yo [05:13] nyRednek: how you doing? [05:13] surrounder: fine, how about yourself ? [05:13] surrounder: heh [05:13] surrounder: typing fail [05:13] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Client Quit [05:13] :) [05:15] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [05:15] surrounder: recompiling stuff...tried debian...disliked it...cloned the SBo git and going to work [05:15] grazymax (~grazymax@host7-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:19] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:23] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [05:24] tsuyoi (~akmal@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [05:27] I have this problem http://sn.im/1266od if someone have any idea plz post it. thanks [05:31] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-65-22.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] can someone send me some weird unicode? so i can test to see if this thing is working right with utf8? [06:01] ol� nyrednek [06:01] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: In soviet windows, system operates YOU! [06:01] slackie: i got the tilde on the a, thanks [06:03] welcome �/ [06:03] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [06:04] rizitis: hi:) it seems related with util-linux-ng somehow. but i dont know exactly whats the problem. furthermore since i dont use slackpkg i dont know exactly how it works. but following CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT and UPGRADE.TXT should work for an upgrade [06:04] rizitis: I posted an answer [06:05] the cavarly to the rescue:) [06:05] cavalry* [06:06] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-206.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:06] must zsnes take so long to compile? [06:07] alienBOB, sahko thanks I will try... [06:07] sahko: hi [06:07] maybe should start mentioning slackpkg in those documents at some point [06:08] nyRednek: hi:) [06:08] maybe Pat* should start mentioning slackpkg in those documents at some point [06:09] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-165-96.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:09] sahko: maybe so [06:09] sahko: since it is technically supported [06:09] i still use pkgtools but slackpkg is on my todo [06:09] sahko: wait, you're a slackbook contributor? [06:10] no, its on my todo list to start using [06:10] sahko: i use it [06:10] mosst people do, that the reason its worth mentioning in UPGRADE.TXR [06:11] .TXT* damn [06:14] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [06:15] SlackDweber (~martinus@180.211.95.230) joined ##slackware. [06:23] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.52) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:23] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.250.82) joined ##slackware. [06:24] morning ladies and gentlemen! Could someone with some more know how than me (it won't take much) help me with a virtualbox problem. I am trying to start the vboxdrv module but it fails and I can't load up a VM without it running. [06:28] No worries. With a lack of fear and a little experimentation it is working. I had to recompile the rc.vboxdrv module. [06:30] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] alienBOB: did you read the article i pointed you to the other day about ralink? if not: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/11/19/few-surprised-at-new-evidence-of-staging-driver-suckage/ [06:38] Roxyy_ (serkanakar@41.236.14.68) joined ##slackware. [06:40] its not that pesimistic though [06:49] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.250.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:50] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:57] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [06:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [06:58] sahko: yeah well, I need a working driver. If that driver is a 'staging' driver then I will use it. For my eeepc the 'official' rt2800pci does not work. Too bad for Dan Williams if he disagrees [07:01] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5C03.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:04] netbook_ (~netbook@79.107.123.153) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] rizitis (~netbook@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:07] i dont think he means that they're unusable, just that they're unmaintainable, cant be debbuged and dont support many of the features the hardware is capable of. and neither am i, the staging driver is usable here too [07:07] bbl [07:09] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[08:11] thanks,Well the thing is,i have been using linux(mint) for long time and decided to get slack so i got from my buddy Slack 13,but i have seen that 13.1 is out so i am wondering can it be upgraded without reinstalling the system [08:11] Lord_Khelben: This What error:http://dpaste.com/240940/ [08:11] g3nu1n3 yes it can get upgraded [08:11] g3nu1n3: yes it can. read upgrade.txt and changes_and_hints.txt to get some clues [08:11] about steps that need be done [08:12] great , thanks a bunch guys [08:12] pete` (~user@080.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:12] there are potential pitfalls. if you're starting from scratch it might be best to dl 13.1 and installing that instead [08:13] g3nu1n3: did you do a full install ? [08:13] yeah [08:13] from the dvd [08:13] then you can also use slackpkg to upgrade, but read the above files [08:13] to above pitfalls as mancha said [08:14] well i will upgrade it using slackpkg [08:14] and maybe i will stick to 13 [08:14] which one are you using currently? [08:14] Axius: is this the full message ? [08:15] i am using 64bit -current but it doesn't matter what each of us here use :P [08:15] Axius do a full install [08:15] Lord_Khelben: yes [08:16] you've been asking ##slackware questions for a week and they are all due to not having installed everything [08:17] g3nu1n3 (~g3nu1n3@109-121-19-138.adsl-a-5.sezampro.rs) left irc: Quit: 4;078< [08:18] Now it's start's after installing libXft, but I can not start xterm. [08:18] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:18] you hadn't installed libXft ? why ? [08:19] Lord_Khelben: I did not know that is need it. [08:19] that was an extra reason for you to install it [08:20] do a full install and only remove packages you _know_ that are not needed [08:20] at least till you are familiar with packages that come with slackware and their deps [08:21] I want to have a small install system as possible. [08:22] yes but you can't do that at this stage [08:22] you need to get more familiar first [08:22] unless you use the base system of arch or gentoo which check deps for you [08:23] I try to make it possible. [08:23] deathmon1ac (~desumon@200-138-97-54.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:23] ok then use ldd to find the libs that your programs need for first stip [08:23] s/stip/step/ [08:24] but ldd is the first step. it will be more difficult in the process [08:25] Lord_Khelben: Can you give an example how ldd it's used to check deps? [08:25] slackware's packages are as lean as they can be. they don't come with a gazilion of dependencies so even a full install is very fast [08:25] ldd /bin/bash [08:25] ldd /usr/bin/xterm [08:25] but i strongly suggest you follow mancha's advice and do a full install [08:25] once you get the list, then ldd each lib as well to see if a lib is missing a dependency [08:26] ok [08:26] deathmoniac (~desumon@200-140-229-96.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:28] at least a,ap,d,l,n (and x,xap for X) [08:28] and k if you need binary drivers like nvidia [08:29] true, if you plan on compiling modules against the kernel, then k too [08:30] paissad (~paissad@pal34-1-88-182-18-149.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:31] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:36] and what are the default policies? [08:36] ok [08:36] you are certain this is true? [08:37] here is the output of "route -n" http://pastebin.com/LWmXbF1r [08:37] mancha, don't worry about iptables , if you want i give a pastebin [08:37] why does it have 2 gateways ? [08:38] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Lord_Khelben, i don't know many things about route & related stuff ^^sorry [08:38] mancha, http://pastebin.com/rnkmMHa9 [08:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [08:39] that is a mistake yes [08:39] which is the gatway? i asssume x.x.1.1 ? [08:39] ohh i forgot to say that i changed of network [08:39] so, the matter is obviously from therer [08:39] there* [08:40] route del default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0 [08:40] mancha, the previous gtw from the previous network is 192.168.1.254 [08:41] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:41] everyting's ok now ! [08:41] you're great ! [08:41] thanks [08:41] thank Khelben, he caught it [08:42] you're both are great ;) that's what i meant [08:42] you're welcome. [08:45] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [08:45] pete_ (~pete@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [08:49] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.2.79) joined ##slackware. [08:51] hurfdurf (189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Mowah (1000@c-1a8ce555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:51] hey guys [08:52] ? [08:52] trying to find a tabbed window manager [08:52] cant remember the name [08:53] but im using fluxbox now [08:53] fluxbox can do tabs iirc [08:53] yes, middle click and drag I think [08:53] obviously [08:53] hurfdurf, literally TWM ? [08:53] nah [08:53] i cant remember the name, its a snazzy one though [08:53] how descriptive [08:53] is it a tiling wm ? [08:54] hurfdurf: tiling or tabbed ? [08:54] nah [08:54] tabed [08:54] other than that....damnit i dont remember the name [08:55] anything else interesting you remember? [08:55] screenshots are orange :D [08:56] oh shit i think i remember [08:56] its pekwm?? [08:56] pekwm maybe? [08:56] the default theme for that is an ugly orange I think [08:56] http://pekwm.org/projects/pekwm [08:56] ya [08:56] just as i remembered lol [08:56] that and "fish" [08:57] the brain is a mysterious thing! [08:58] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.15.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [08:59] in other news [08:59] whos using STJERM? 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[09:15] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.203.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:15] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-58-228.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] pete_ (~pete@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:16] grazymax (~grazymax@host7-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:16] pete_ (~pete@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [09:16] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.232.133) joined ##slackware. [09:17] is there an easy way to upgrade official packages to versions which arn't on slackware servers? [09:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:17] for example, seamonkey 2.07 has been released, but isnt on the change logs yet [09:18] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@adsl-99-124-142-154.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] D1ver, you'd have to build your own seamonkey package [09:18] pete_ (~pete@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:18] with a homemade slackbuild script or somthing? [09:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:19] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] zoran119 (~zoran@122-148-94-165.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:21] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-253.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:22] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-35-236.ip100.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:23] frk (~jcn@189.58.210.132.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:24] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.15.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:24] D1ver: and don't forget updated dependencies [09:26] kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:26] hmm.. Maybe I'll wait till Pat gets around to it.. [09:27] It wouldn't be too hard to try it [09:27] Seamonkey itself is generally self-contained [09:29] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Would the best thing to do just be to take the slackbuild file off of the slackware /source directory and edit it? [09:29] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:31] that's what I do sometimes [09:32] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:32] D1ver: definately [09:32] Cool.. Thanks guys, I'll have a go :) [09:34] oh [09:34] might eat some cpu however [09:34] seamonkey? what version aer you building [09:34] I figured I'd try 2.07, which was released a couple days ago [09:35] and whats the source version? [09:35] the version in 13.1 /source is 2.04 [09:35] cool, you should be able to do it then [09:36] i like my version :D Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090624 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 [09:36] uva (~uva@111-240-237-149.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.250.82) joined ##slackware. [09:36] heh wow, old school [09:36] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.250.82) left irc: Client Quit [09:36] try this [09:36] http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.6.9/ [09:36] from yesterday apparently [09:37] Action: NaCl likes the firefox 4 beta [09:37] http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.6.9/icecat-3.6.9-i686.tar.bz2 [09:38] googlefox? [09:38] have they stopped integrating everything into google yet [09:39] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090729 Firefox/3.5.2 [09:39] everyone should be using rekonq of course, since a nice slackware user develops it :) [09:39] i wanna go back to 2.0.0.20 [09:39] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [09:39] thats when firefox wasnt ubuntu/googlefox [09:40] they are making some bad choices [09:40] i've never heard of rekonq.. [09:41] ive heard of konqueror and thats enough to avoid it like the swineflu shot [09:41] mind control drugs man [09:41] sterilization man [09:42] all the bilderburg's idea [09:42] if we are going to get tinfoil hatty [09:42] nah [09:42] rockefeller foundation [09:42] you don't have one on? [09:42] they did the studies in the 60s [09:43] 2010-08-05 Rockefeller Foundation 1968 Yearly Report - Anti-Fertility Vaccines.pdf [09:43] 2010-08-05 Centre For Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology - Rockefeller - Anti-Fertility.pdf [09:43] etc [09:44] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] i think the real scam is convincing people having kids is great [09:46] you didn't see the infomercial did you? [09:46] yes! I tell that to my girlfriend every day [09:46] kids suck and every parent is miserable [09:47] my gf disagrees =0 [09:47] go figure [09:48] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:48] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [09:48] SM 2.07 seems to have made it past config and is building away.. cheers guys :) [09:49] kids from 2 to 12 is a pain in the ass. after 12 when the can get a real job and support the family income, they are bearable. especially boys, girls only if you live in tailand or something [09:50] well it would be nice if the future wasnt filled with children of bankers [09:50] and everyone else is a eunuch [09:50] but who cares i guess [09:50] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-58-228.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [09:51] paissad (~paissad@pal34-1-88-182-18-149.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:54] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [09:54] xsamurai (munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left ##slackware. [09:55] deathmon1ac (~desumon@200-138-97-54.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:56] paissad (~paissad@pal34-1-88-182-18-149.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:16] Axius__ (~fd@92.84.13.94) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:16] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [10:16] are the rc.d/rc.* files a specific slackware way of doing things? What I am curious about is whether when installing software from another source, if it will be placed in that directory with those types of files, or if any non slackware packages will have to be managed (started and stopped) in another way [10:16] hey guys o/ [10:16] heya phrag :) [10:17] Slobad: i think there is a wrapper for the other ones [10:17] back from partying in croatia! =P [10:17] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:18] the dub/reggae festival? [10:18] Sorry, a wrapper? [10:18] sahko: yes!! [10:19] sahko: very impressed you knew that! [10:19] Outlook 2010, Dub festival in a fort in Croatia... *the* best music festival i've ever been to =) [10:19] now i'm back at work =/ heh [10:19] do you visit every year? i think i remember you talking about it last year. my mind occasionally stores information most people regaard as useless:) [10:20] or maybe it was early 2010 dont know [10:20] sahko: haha, possibly for the last 8 months i've mentioned it [10:20] pete_ (~pete@003.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:20] Nick change: xchg_chrape -> xchg [10:20] ah, ok:) [10:20] yeh, this is first year i've been... only started last year.. but this one was the best =) [10:20] yeah, thats always the case. things go out of hand only the first 1-2 times:) [10:21] worked out beatifully =) [10:21] nice! [10:21] sun, sea, bikinis and bass =) [10:21] did it have dubstep stuff too? [10:22] If I install a third party application, would I have to write my own rc.* file to run it at boot or are there rc.* files created by all newly installed applications? Do they release different initialization files to go more along the lines of fedora and ubuntu startups? [10:22] Slobad: check slackbuilds.org first [10:23] sahko: yeh, it was mainly dubstep and dub =) [10:23] again.. impressed you know of dubstep =) [10:23] I will always do it if I can - this is more a question of curiosity than necessity right now [10:23] Slobad: one would normally write their own [10:23] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] or execute in /etc/rc.d/rc.local [10:23] phrag: its cause i dislike it. it should have stayed in the island. a horrible trend in my eyes :p [10:24] jungle is better, and that didnt get anywhere either, so will dubstep, i hope [10:24] haha, well i've been into dubstep since it's inception.. so i'm not jumping on any bandwagon... and i do not like "radge" step... like heavy dark mental stuff [10:24] more the chilled ambient, happy dub =) [10:25] mostly blame the internet for the widespread [10:25] fair enough. They do not look too complicated. I am new to this and wondered if Slackware being the distro to "learn linux" etc, that it would be supported in the way it initialized things from the standard install of software. I guess they pander to the more popular init styles of other distros. Not a problem though. :-) [10:25] Slobad: it should work.... [10:25] there was an awesome jungle boat party we went on... macka b and some old junglist dudes playing, was a right laugh =) [10:26] Slobad: sometimes you need to modify scripts sometimes you dont........... [10:26] Slobad: slack uses initv, dating back to BSD iirc [10:26] If I have to write a quick script one day (as I said, at this point it is just curiosity) then so be it. [10:26] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:26] we have init.d and rc?.d directories [10:27] so...the scripts will be there [10:27] phrag: but i do agree on one thing , festivals like those are plain awesome and can help you appreciate the music better, as well as meet very interesting people. [10:27] Slobad: you can copy the start, stop, restart syntax from other rc. scripts and jus replace a few lines =) [10:27] anyway im out [10:27] they just might not work without you calling them, i dont know [10:27] sahko: the best thing was there were no dickheads there... everyone just made the effort to have a good time =) [10:27] sahko: catch you later o/ [10:27] :D [10:28] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Yeah that seems like the easiest option. The nice thing though is that I don't really need to go install crazy with the full slackware install which has been nice. Lamp stack all there already for me so not too much fuss. [10:28] i thought dubstep was cool...until i realized its popular [10:29] hehe [10:29] Slobad: yeah slackware is good for people who know what they are doing [10:29] wont get in your way much [10:31] hurfdurf, I think it is a good distro for people who don't too. I have been using ubuntu and everything was done for me. Not that it was a really bad thing mind you, but I have learned more in a few weeks of Slackware than I have in 2 years of Ubuntu. As a learning tool and as a stable distro it's amazing. [10:31] try telling that to ubuntu people [10:32] I would recommend it to people who were interested in Linux and had never touched it before. Slackbook was a help for me. Ubuntu would crash all over the place and I just thought it was my hardware or me being an idiot. The number of times it would just freeze up and everything went gray... it's ridiculous. [10:32] it IS [10:32] i dont get it at all [10:32] my gf wants to try linux... obviousy slack was my first thought, however i'd prefer to give her something she can admin herself.. any suggestions ? [10:32] people are just retards imo [10:32] phrag: pclinuxos [10:32] xfce edition [10:32] yeh? [10:32] its amazing [10:32] yes definately [10:33] for laptops too :) [10:33] The one crash I had on here was when I was tinkering with the script fr virtual box driver and a syntax error in my edit caused it to run and re run and the usage on that script just went up and up slowing me down. Found the problem, changed it back and we were away again. [10:33] sweet, will check that out (sounds better than ubuntu) [10:33] fucking unbelievably good [10:33] phrag: opensuse [10:33] hurfdurf: cool, it is a laptop too [10:33] surrounder: hmm, yeh i've played with that [10:33] make sure to enable compiz in their little control panel :) [10:33] ran it for almost a year... [10:33] pslinuxos is a very good choice [10:33] found opensuse bulky [10:33] phrag: gentoo! [10:33] *cough* [10:33] pclinuxos sounds cool =) [10:34] openbsd! [10:34] thanks guys =) [10:34] be adventurous [10:34] phrag: you will be amazed [10:34] pslinuxos is compatible with ubuntu repos which will be handy for her. Most popular codecs there out of the box [10:34] sweet [10:34] uh thats bad advice [10:34] If she wants linux because she is keen to learn though, don't hold her hand. Give her Slackware! :-) [10:34] anything ubuntu is infected [10:35] the default repos are great, just load up synaptic and enable one [10:35] anything else will compile once you search synaptic for -dev [10:35] for library headers [10:35] and libs [10:35] Sabayon is full of *fun stuffs* from what I hear. She might want to try that [10:35] phrag: zenwalk might me nice too (prolly also easier for you to help her with in case that's necesary) [10:36] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:36] I think opensuse is good for a beginner, my only complain is that it's pretty slow/heavy (or at least feels) [10:37] don't share that opinion (at least not on my netbook) [10:37] surrounder: will check zenwalk out too, thanks =) [10:37] adrien, I found that whatever they had done in opensuse for their own changes was enough to mess up a variety of peripherals on various machines that works fine with more stock distributions [10:42] uggg i hate neopolitan [10:42] vanilla is so much better [10:42] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:43] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [10:44] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:44] yeah thats funny [10:44] surrounder: well, kde was sluggish, it just felt like everything was 30% slower (not like choppiness, simply always slower) [10:44] install openbsd on your gf's laptop [10:44] then dump her [10:44] like a movie at a lower framerate [10:45] Slobad: worked ok for me, but I remember they had radeonhd at some point for instance [10:45] everything WAS 30% slower [10:45] adrien: kde always feels that way to me :P [10:45] the kernel was slower and the binaries and the libs... 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[11:58] slackwear (to sell shirts) [11:58] slackwerelinux (lycanthropic penguin) [12:00] lol [12:00] very clever indeed [12:00] slackware war warfare [12:00] oops [12:00] fail [12:00] nah ;) [12:00] sorry, its the PCP talking [12:01] haha [12:01] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071338/ [12:01] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399407/ [12:01] i win [12:01]