[00:00] Ficthe, what if it were pastebin? [00:00] Old_Fogie, pardon? [00:00] bhodgins: thats why I use screen [00:00] Ficthe, not sure I understand your question is what I meant [00:00] Old_Fogie, yes - I meant what harm could someone do if you did put it on pastebin? [00:00] oh nothing [00:01] unless, if it were like you said, someone near you, and you werent the admin to change the keys if need be, heh [00:01] oh. okay. my wep key is "3monitors" :). [00:01] but I'm sure the FBI agents that monitor the chann would like it :) [00:02] did you read that Bruce Shnier blogpost.. in which he said he doesn't care to have a closed wifi? [00:02] no I didnt [00:02] http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/my_open_wireles.html [00:02] aceofspades19: I never thought of doing that.. I only use screen for putting foreground stuff in the background usualy [00:02] more than & does [00:02] "To me, it's basic politeness." - such a weird thing for a security guy to say [00:03] haha. this laptops crap [00:03] not my new one [00:03] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:04] doesn't he realize that people can see his passwords and crap going over the network [00:04] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:04] Nick change: fiya_werkin -> Fiyawerx [00:05] Ficthe: I think he just lost all credibilty as a security expert [00:05] aceofspades19, due to this? [00:05] yeah [00:06] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] take care,folks [00:06] isnt that a "man in the middle" attack and don't they have to be geographically close to you to capture the wifi data? [00:07] I wonder if he leaves his door unlocked too, so if anyone driving by can come in, have some coffee, maybe take a dump and bang the old lady while their at it. [00:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:07] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [00:07] tank-man: well yeah [00:07] Yea that guys a tard to do that. [00:07] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [00:08] he created the blowfish cipher, I don't think he's a tard, I assume he must have some borderline-reasonable explaination ;\ [00:08] oddly enough, the discussion in the comments is more "it'll be used for CP" than "traffic can be sniffed" [00:09] I would be more worried about my traffic being sniffed then CP [00:09] no it's dumb, I wont even waste breath on it, it's just plain dumb. [00:09] i would like to know how to make $_POST['sexe'] not set if select has NULL value http://pastebin.fr/4039 [00:09] thanks in advance [00:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:10] without using unset if possible [00:10] that's Bruce Schneier [00:10] you think he needs wpa enabled to secure his shit? [00:10] might help If I install libdbus [00:11] I have a question, for something that wanst covered in my lpi stuff, and I never had to use.... [00:12] is sr0 basicly a scsi interface cd drive? [00:12] not always. it is using part of the scsi stack though but it doesn't mean it is scsi [00:13] sgX is the scsi generic device and sdX is the actual block device itself. i believe the sr stands for something like removable media [00:13] aka: the cdrom [00:13] hmm [00:14] interesting [00:14] sg is covered in the lpi [00:14] Never once heard anything about sr [00:14] I was like, wtf is this!? [00:16] my cdrom is sr0 yeah [00:17] I never used sata cdroms [00:18] it doesn't mean it's sata though [00:18] I know, but it is [00:18] it's just using libata [00:18] this laptop has a sata dvd ram drive with a sata hard disk I believe [00:19] sata laptop drives are great, can throw them in a pc to get data off easy as pie [00:19] yeah mine laptop is sata too. i can warm swap a second hard drive with my DVD-RW drive [00:19] heh [00:19] yeah [00:19] I have an ide laptop adapter [00:19] sucks [00:19] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:19] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] you must have a shitty one because the units i use work great [00:20] i have adapters for damn near all interfaces [00:20] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: "BitchX Official Bug Reporting Site -- http://bugs.bitchx.org/" [00:20] its a crappy circuit board with one end the laptop and the other for the ide cable, and two wires to the powr connector [00:20] its really old [00:20] that is the crappy kind [00:20] the good kind need no chips [00:21] had to resolder it so many times [00:21] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [00:22] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:22] this is like the type i use http://www.mcbworld.com/mcbworld/images/IDE-adapter.jpg [00:22] plugs, not wires ;) [00:22] heh [00:22] my friend has a usb to sata / ide [00:22] yep must have too [00:22] it really screwed the disk up [00:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:23] dude i don't know wtf you guys do but i've never had issues with simple disk interface adapters [00:23] It wouldnt mount, and then I tried mounting just the whole thing, and it mounted as it shouldnt have and bad things happened. [00:23] sounds like OE [00:23] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] WOAH [00:24] I just gpot a stack fault with wpa_supplicant I believe [00:24] s474n (n=strato@g227164181.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [00:24] when I set the ssid [00:24] ? [00:24] its like that day I tried to ssh in my server in slack, then it scrolls for a minute and kernel panics lol [00:25] wpa_supplicant.conf is where you set the ssid when using wpa_supplicant [00:25] yes but this ssid is hidden [00:25] so? [00:25] and it doesnt find it [00:25] use scan_ap... [00:25] hmm [00:25] like, mac scanning? [00:25] ... [00:25] well the mac of the ap shows still [00:26] in the global section use ap_scan=1 and in the config block for your network use scan_ssid=1 [00:26] hm [00:26] isnt it set to that by default? I'll check in a seccond [00:27] two penguins! :D sorry.. [00:27] My servers do it too, but they arent dual core [00:27] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [00:27] ok [00:28] yes ap_scan is set to 1 [00:28] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:28] for disabled ssid broadcast set ap_scan=2 [00:28] try that [00:28] ooh [00:29] it seems to have set my essid in iwconfig to my ssid, however I still get a link quality of 0 [00:30] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:30] i don't suppose you've tried to google about this yet? [00:30] there is a ton of information about this topic... [00:31] long ago, yeah.. [00:31] not now [00:31] or if you can use wicd go that route, and just be done with it [00:31] god. [00:31] true, but I dont use X a lot [00:31] wpa_supplicant can handle any type of wireless network [00:31] people don't need to use wicd [00:31] bhodgins, wicd runs without x [00:31] really? [00:32] nullboy: ++ [00:32] nullboy, chopp I didnt say he "needed wicd" I said "or" implying an option [00:32] wpa_supplicant will roam, it will pick the best AP, it supports AP grouping and priorities it does EAP whatever [00:33] does it cut out wired cards nullboy ? [00:33] like turn em' off? [00:33] i don't understand that? [00:33] or on , change firewall, stop daemons? [00:33] there's some good functionality to it [00:33] nix_chix0r: http://www.linuxjournal.com/files/linuxjournal.com/linuxjournal/articles/078/7882/7882f3.png [00:33] Old_Fogie: oh I understand, and I have nothing against wicd, twas just agreeing to nullboy's "wpa_supplicant can handle any type of wireless network" statement. :) [00:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.77) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:34] wicd uses wpa is my point, as on option to him to make life easier, as wpa is pita when setting it up having to kill the background daemon, then restart it etc etc [00:34] stop what daemons? since when should stopping daemons be a good thing? wpa_supplicant with dhcpcd and a metric setting makes it work just like a windows box works. [00:35] if you're not used to it [00:35] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "switching boxen" [00:35] if wired connects, it uses wired, it it disconnects, reverts back to wifi [00:35] it's automatic [00:36] there's very little automatic about stock /etc/wpa... and wireless :) [00:36] i don't think you've configured it properly then [00:36] because it is automatic [00:37] woah, my legs were asleep and I didnt know, I was sitting and I just got up and started walking [00:37] it was hilarious [00:37] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] pics with your forehead on the carpet, or it never happened. ;) [00:38] people seem to discount the stock networking scripts and it seems like most of the time it is simply because they didn't take the time to look at them [00:38] nullboy, believe me I got it set up fine. but I also more times then not dont use dhcp, which is where the wpa farts on it's own without a ton of user intervention. but hey if it works for you go to it. [00:39] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.178.164) joined ##slackware. [00:39] not using dhcp should make it even easier though [00:39] nullboy, no becuase your dns get's borked if you dont make entries [00:39] and the insane time outs in /etc/resolv.conf [00:40] man, i can't stop looking. ubuntu noob. http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii451/magnatecha/IMG00141-1.jpg [00:40] but if you're using a static IP how does a broken dns entry even happen? that doesn't make sense [00:40] that's really the biggest pita for roaming using slack's stockscripts [00:40] static ip = static entry... [00:41] if 192.168.100.1 is top... and now your on diff lan where there is no 192.168.100.1 but is 192.168.1.1 and it's line 2 in the file...good luck surfing the net [00:41] so why are you using a static IP on a floating system? [00:41] that's what the real issue is [00:41] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [00:42] no the real issue is why it's a hacked static box by design, and not core net utils not upgraded with the times [00:42] it's not getting borked, it's working exactly how it is supposed to though [00:42] imo, the whole netstack needs to get re-written witht he concept of wireless in it. [00:43] netstack as for as the editable text files /etc [00:43] it's antiquated [00:43] i don't even know what to say to that [00:44] hire some sales people, use linux, and tell me how great the wireless / wired net setups in linux are then :) [00:44] it works just fine [00:44] how do sales people come into this? [00:45] have them go out in the world, use a customer's lan one minute, a coffee shop the next, vpn in with radius, and get their mail out of the car :) [00:45] i don't buy anything [00:45] ... [00:45] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173.86.4.63) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] i do that all the time [00:45] then you'll see my point that the ~10 files setup for networking is antiquated system by desing [00:45] wtf man no [00:45] what 10 files? [00:46] i use wpa_supplicant.conf and rc.inet1.conf [00:47] I wont ever pay people to edit files, when there's business to be done, my $0.02 [00:47] wow. [00:47] that really doesn't make any sense at all [00:47] sure it does [00:47] this is a very weak attempt here [00:47] add up the time a year it takes, omg, lost opporuntity, loss revenue [00:48] did someone hack Old_Fogie's system? [00:48] who the hell is this? [00:48] no wicd is a true blessing, I think someone finally gets it [00:48] this is coming from Mr build gnome myself... [00:48] that's my poit [00:48] yeah ok [00:48] *point [00:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:48] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [00:49] nullboy, my point is this, if you had let's say a bunch of people working for you, then you'd really want a wicd style (centrally managed) network configs [00:50] i'm speechless [00:50] Fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:50] in the context of IT and computer work your argument is plain out wack. [00:50] nullboy, no it's just time is money philosophy. [00:50] you are saying that no one should have to edit config files ever... [00:50] ask any webmaster what they do all day [00:50] ask Dominian [00:51] nullboy, no that's different,, way diff. [00:51] for one, most web master's aren't hosting off a laptop :) [00:51] no, you clearly said you wouldn't pay anyone to edit files [00:52] yea as we were talking about wireless, and switching and roaming mode of users [00:52] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-4-63.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] I have a question concerning /etc/rc.d/rc.hald . The newest version changes the line from PIDFILE=/var/run/hald.pid to PIDFILE=/var/run/hald/pid . Does this seem right to anybody here? [00:52] And sorry for the interruption. [00:53] chance22: no no, you're on topic [00:53] no we're just bickering [00:53] :) [00:53] chance22: yes, it's correct. [00:53] To make this more clear, I'm using slackpkg to upgrade -current [00:53] chance22: it seems like a trend to that structure these days [00:53] You need to be sure to move over the rc.hal.new to rc.hal [00:53] Action: hba thanks Bob that programmers never edit files this days. [00:54] Okay, thanks everyone. [00:54] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:54] i like that /var/run is slowly starting to look less like a shotgun blast [00:54] chance22: there's already a /var/run/hald directory use dby the package, so I didn't think it made much sense to put the pid file above that dir [00:54] nullboy, agreed [00:55] its 1 am [00:55] gotta be up at 8 [00:55] bhodgins: go to bed! [00:55] Fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Get to test my new compiz 0.8.2 in a few minutes :) [00:55] Gotcha. Just wanted to double check before I approved the overwrite. Thanks again. [00:55] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [00:55] chance22: np [00:55] Had to build http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/ before libcompizconfig [00:55] chance22: at least you're paying attention [00:56] Old_Fogie: hrm, where'd you get that? 0.7.8 is the most recent on ftp.x.org/pub/individual/ [00:56] Supposedly, it makes app's start faster if using compiz, we'll see [00:56] nullboy: Well, automated upgrades make me paranoid, this is my first time using slackpkg. [00:56] rworkman, I got it from the compiz-fusion releases site [00:56] chance22: i felt the same way initially [00:56] Old_Fogie: ah, well, I'll hold off then [00:57] rworkman, they change the names of the plugins sources now [00:57] chance22: i started using slackpkg about 6 months ago and it has never screwed anything up [00:57] Old_Fogie: yeah, I'll definitely wait. I've got enough problems already :D [00:57] rworkman, so it's not compiz-fusion-plugins-main for example, it's just compiz-plugins-main due to the merge [00:57] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [00:58] rworkman, on a 12.2 box it should really only affect libwnck/xfce there's not much else that hookes to compiz [00:58] nullboy: I didn't think it would. But I'm doubly paranoid using -current in addition to slackpkg, neither of which I've done before. But everything looks good so far. [00:58] Old_Fogie: i'd give wicd to my parents though. for sure [00:58] but in there, i'd make noobs write wpa_supplicant.conf from scratch [00:58] there/here [00:58] nullboy, I tell ya I gotta look at that guys paypal site and send him money. he truly is onto something great there. [00:58] nullboy, oh leanring the files is a must sure, agreed. [00:59] chance22: it will work well, that's what i use it for [00:59] nullboy, I'm glad someone did somehting/project like that in lieu of 'yet another music player for linux' :) [00:59] like goggle player [01:00] nullboy: did you get any work out of the stalker? [01:00] chopp: well they aren't red teaming me at least [01:00] I've yanked out all the gnome network stuff, wicd by far blows it away. only concern really (in a way) would be that's it's not pam/policy-kit tho, but that's a whole nother issue/debate or should I say debocle :) [01:00] they need someone who knows more than them about networks and security [01:00] goggles is pretty neat tho I like that one [01:01] nullboy: good to hear. :) [01:01] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [01:01] chopp: i'm interested in the idea as it is something i have been thinking about for a long time. [01:01] chopp: just basic network security and auditing for local businesses [01:02] i don't know if i really want to go all formal into it with them but they seem like decent guys and just want to learn more [01:02] nullboy: what are the freaking odd's. Did he state how he knew to approach you? [01:02] chopp: no he never told me a solid reason other than he took a shot [01:02] weird [01:02] tis possible I guess. [01:03] maybe it's the hair [01:03] hahah [01:03] kind of like asking the pizza guy if he knows where to buy some weed [01:03] and i've got a beard going now [01:03] someone is looking out for you I'm thinkin. [01:03] he probably smelt linux on me [01:03] I'd never hire a clean cut IT guy, there's just something wrong with that :) [01:03] Fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:03] Old_Fogie: thats the attitude. :) [01:04] scruffy beard and really long hair...i bet that's why he asked [01:04] gimme a greasy, hairy, go-tee IT guy, that's the hacker you want I say [01:04] other than my cell phone, those are the only possible tells [01:04] straterra: so what's the verdict? [01:04] straterra: was that port 50001 a sign of pwnage? [01:06] nullboy, have you read that article that said mips proc's on routers, dsl/cable modems exploits yet? any thoughts? I see it says openwrt is still succeptable to it. Wondered what you thought about it. [01:06] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] yeah i read all about it [01:06] Fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] it's simply an administration issue [01:06] who the hell would put a weakly passworded sshd in a DMZ? [01:06] wtf? [01:06] I've no idea what my cable modem uses, or if they have remote access too it. [01:07] Fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:07] it's probably using VXworks [01:07] most likely [01:07] it's a voip cable modem [01:08] the ultimate solution to that so called worm was simply don't be stupid with sshd [01:08] don't be stupid with any remote access software really [01:08] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] The cable and dsl modem access by the ISP tho, that is a 'tad' alarming. I wouldnt doubt they use weak pass's [01:09] the worm wasn't using some remote exploit, other than weak passwords and a DMZd daemon [01:09] well that's a given [01:09] with cable modems, that is how it works [01:09] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [01:09] the ISP has full control of it [01:10] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [01:10] dsl is a little different but with a cable modem, there is basically a whole tftp setup on the ISP side of the cable modems [01:11] yeah, given these financial times, I truly doubt any ISP if vulnerable would even spend the time to do pass changes, or hardware swap outs unless their back was to the wall. Tht's the tin-foil hat part of the article for me on that one. [01:12] yep, charter sure doesn't give a sh!t [01:12] hba (n=hba@189.188.200.187) left irc: "leaving" [01:12] you have to love ISP's, they wont even tell you a fall back dns server to use, let alone ... if they were (a) vulnerable and (b) working on it [01:12] their network is like a freaking million person lan party [01:12] I've read my ISP is gonna do that pay for bandwith crap... that just stinks [01:13] lucasagomes (n=lucasgom@189-68-133-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [01:13] its' like a throwback to the bad days of cell phones, and minutes, just dispicable [01:13] my ISP is bankrupt! YAY [01:13] oh yea? which one? and how? [01:14] charter [01:14] I needz a bailout [01:14] yeah, watch them blame it on the economy, blah blah [01:15] http://www.axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/17745 [01:15] iirc charter never managed to make a profit [01:15] at least not in the normal sense [01:16] they are going "restructure" so they can keep on sucking at being an ISP [01:17] yea over 10+ years of "oozing" money, in debt, and can't borrw money to pay back debt. writing was on the wall with that one. [01:17] honestly, they need to be outta business. that's just a bad business if after 10+years, and infused by the MS guy it sounds like. [01:18] my area had wavebroadband prior to charter's massive nation wide buy out of small ISPs. after that happened it went to hell [01:18] they wont even be able to keep up with funding for obama's new infrastucture plan, they're just done for. [01:19] yeah it's a good think at&t finally was allowed by the city board here to deploy in my neighborhood [01:19] nille_ (i=1000@c-1f62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:19] the only way they gonna pay down debt, is cut costs, are get authorized to raise rates, or venture capitalist guys step in.. or some combo. either way that's a mess. [01:19] the city wouldn't let them into my area before, probably due to some kick back scheme they had with charter [01:19] most likely. [01:20] so basically, bankruptcy, nice, we're all paying for your internet then :) [01:20] YAY! [01:20] thanks guys [01:20] now get the hell off my wifi [01:21] secret to life, find some venture capitalist to infuse millions in your business, hire a ton of people, ooze money, aske for bail out ,and restructure. [01:21] that's the business plan for 200X [01:21] yup [01:22] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:22] or, make some stupid gimmick thing, sell it for $19.99 + S&H .. and if you "order now we'll throw in.." and have the bearded Billy Mays guy yelling the commercial. [01:23] if i ever need to sell something i'm hiring billy mays [01:23] yup, or that shamwow guy [01:23] like REALLY sell it [01:23] with the cool headset :) [01:23] lol [01:23] we need a Slackware shamwow [01:23] I'd buy one :) [01:24] did you see the picture of the shamwow guy all busted up from some fight nullboy ? [01:24] I dont have a link, google should, man he got messed up [01:24] lmao i'm looking now [01:24] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:25] Old_Fogie: http://www.popeater.com/television/article/shamwow-vince-shlomi-fight-photos/422125 ? [01:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRGRZCvLmg [01:25] lol [01:27] yeah he got messed up good huh, poor guy [01:27] Thats Cassshhhh in the traaassshhh [01:27] oh man this is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWN-0lm--gI&feature=related [01:29] nullboy, hahahah [01:29] lol [01:29] lol [01:29] tof-- (i=1000@1Cust5258.an4.dca17.da.uu.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] "tired of getting up in the middle of the night to take a ..." <---hahaha [01:29] that's classic, I got tears in my eyes on that one nullboy [01:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAH6-cwo3mc [01:31] omg [01:31] wow [01:31] rworkman, OT, but debian's added wicd to backports, so I wouldn't doubt you'll see some more action on the wicd list/forums, etc fwiw. [01:31] heh. [01:32] she looks like she's dead. [01:32] haha [01:32] /punch SHAMWOW! [01:32] ... [01:32] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:33] Doesn't look like the Shamwow soaks up 100% blood. [01:33] lmao [01:35] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:35] Shamwow- "But she bit my tounge" /footstomp [01:36] nullboy, guess when he asked her "how much for a facial" she took it seriously [01:36] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:36] lol [01:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOUZikhkdY&feature=related [01:36] billy mays kicksass [01:36] hey, I am doing a gFtp transfer and it disconnects after 2 gb of data transfer [01:37] lol, i didn't fully rick roll ya. [01:37] pirving: use sftp [01:38] hooker aftermath, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCAHrtJkpd4&NR=1 [01:38] groo (n=groo@187.46.101.114) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [01:39] haha, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLP19hQmVHU&feature=related [01:39] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [01:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05ZQ7WHw8Y&feature=related [01:41] yeah he's quite a hit on youtube there, lol [01:41] why does it disconnect?????????????? [01:41] if my server sucky? [01:41] nullboy: HAHAHA [01:41] It's running slackware vsftpd [01:41] is there a time out? [01:42] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] Nick change: stillbor1 -> stillborn [01:42] so why is it that my laptop just ignores the settings I have for DPMS and does what it wants? [01:42] pirving: sftp ftw [01:43] CaptObviousman, the DE can supersede what's in xorg.conf [01:43] what's DE? [01:43] I am reading the man, what would be a good command example ? I want to transfer my whole frank zappa mp3 catalog [01:43] oh, desktop environment [01:43] desktop enviro [01:43] what's your setup like? there's so many ways to skin the cat [01:43] sftp 192.168.1.101 /home/john/Frank* /home/john ? [01:43] ahhhhhaaaa [01:43] Action: CaptObviousman should have checked this earlier [01:44] pirving: no [01:44] any way to dim the screen like a Mac does? [01:44] Action: CaptObviousman is using xfce btw [01:44] damn [01:44] CaptObviousman, use xscreensaver [01:44] pirving: sftp USER@IP:dir LOCALdir [01:44] CaptObviousman, wich xfce should be using for you [01:45] so sftp john@192.168.1.101:/home/john/Frank* /home/john ? [01:45] I'm not a mac user, so I dont know exactly what you mean, but xscreensaver has dimming/fading options, but your video card has to be able to do it [01:45] hmm [01:45] Mac=Bad LSD Experience [01:45] a mac will dim to say 10% brightness after a minute or two, then go off after another minute [01:45] Yeah no mac's here, I look bad with a turtle neck [01:46] vatgas3 (n=val@123.145.73.14) joined ##slackware. [01:46] well, that doesnt save energy dimming a monitor, it still puts out same volts [01:46] it's not for saving energy =) [01:46] hmm, on a hackintosh now if that counts [01:46] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:47] Buggaboo (n=bug@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:47] ah well, this will do for now [01:47] thanks Old_Fogie [01:47] yup [01:47] sometimes the simple solution is the right one [01:47] that, and the one that works is the right one too [01:47] :) [01:48] Fetching /home/john/2 Frank Zappa Discography Part Two to /home/john/2 Frank Zappa Discography Part Two [01:48] Cannot download non-regular file: /home/john/2 Frank Zappa Discography Part Two [01:48] is it bad that I'm looking at the rorshach screen saver and every single pattern looks like a uterus? [01:48] well that explains everything [01:49] he's trying to download frank zappa [01:49] pirving: You need to give sftp -r [01:49] nullboy: Ya, that's insta fail [01:49] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:50] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. 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[02:03] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:03] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] giuppy (n=giuppy@host12-164-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:03] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [02:03] Can mkinitrd_command_generator.sh (new in -current) be used in 12.2 as-is? [02:04] aceofspades19: i wish i knew how [02:05] t0f: there is nothing different as long as you haven't built your own AMD specific kernel [02:06] i DID change the cpu and remade [02:06] then you know what you need to do [02:06] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-3.3/docs/mini/Xterm-Title <---I got it working ! :) [02:06] i should just boot the p3 kernel and work from there? [02:06] install a more generic kernel first [02:06] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-152-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] yes [02:06] ok thanks [02:07] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [02:08] so this --> echo -e "\033]2; testing \007" <---changes the title to 'testing' cool [02:08] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:08] ok, I googled this, to no avail: john@lucille:/mnt$ smbclient -L 192.168.1.101 [02:08] Enter john's password: [02:08] session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILUR [02:09] I edited my smb.conf [02:09] started the smbd [02:09] what did I do wrong? [02:09] pirving, smbpasswd -a john ? [02:09] did you do that? [02:09] no sir [02:09] on the host machine or the client? [02:09] host [02:09] on the host, that's sets the users passsword [02:10] oh ok [02:11] pirving: samba has a user database and the system itself has a user database. remember that filesystem perms as well as share level perms need to be taken into account for your shares [02:12] heh, otherwise everything is 0777 [02:12] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:12] smica (n=smica@szerver1.ibela.sulinet.hu) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Action: Old_Fogie pets his nfs [02:13] Ficthe, I use xbindkeys to throw the aumix commands to Slack <-- I'm not at all familiar with this tool - but can you verify that if I use this, will I still have the OCD functionality? [02:13] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [02:13] Ficthe, no the OCD functionality is only present if you repeatedly hit the keys :) [02:13] also, the problem seems to be that the mute key tries to mute *just* PCM -- I want it to mute everything [02:13] hahahah [02:14] Ficthe: i had this same problem and i never figured it out [02:14] I got you twice on OCD tonight, rofl [02:14] Ficthe, if I go into KDE, yes, my mute still works. [02:14] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [02:15] uh oh, if nullboy couldn't figure it out, I sure as hell am not going to. I'm giving up. xbindkeys, here I come [02:15] edwige (n=edwige@joshua.cesr.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:15] edwige (n=edwige@joshua.cesr.fr) left ##slackware. [02:15] in my ~/.xbindkeysrc file I have: # mute volume: (newline) "aumix -v0" (newline) XF86AudioMute [02:15] it happened to a system that i upgraded in haste and a lot of other files got corrupted too. so much stuff was broken that i just decided to restore a backup and start over [02:15] and that takes down my master here [02:15] morning [02:15] but I'm in icewm now [02:16] hey tewmten [02:16] yo nullboy [02:16] Old_Fogie, wait, why is that line commented? [02:16] that's 3 lines, the first has a comment, as it's my notes to myself, the next to lines designated by my (newline) means it's a new line, and htey are not commented [02:17] gentlemen your help please http://pastebin.com/m2b6d06ae [02:17] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:17] pirving, to mount it, it's #mount -t cifs//192.168.1.101/john /mnt/smb-mount-point [02:18] ah, I see [02:18] pirving, smbclient just lists the available shares [02:18] pirving: did you try to restart samba after making those changes? [02:18] no I didn't [02:18] sorry [02:18] you don't need to say sorry [02:18] don't be sorry! [02:18] pirving, it's mount -t cifs // <-- i forgot a space above [02:18] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:18] a space between cifs and // [02:19] so its # mount -t cifs //192.168.1.101/john /mnt/smb-mount-point [02:20] but you can do, mount -t cifs//192.168.1.101/john /mnt/smb-mount -o,username=john,ro,gid=users <--just an example of some values, and what have you [02:20] mount -t cifs //192.168.1.101/john /mnt/smb [02:20] Password: [02:20] mount error 13 = Permission denied [02:20] right, cuz root isn't allowed on the server [02:20] try to spec the username first [02:20] that's why I said -o,username=john [02:21] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.167.206) left irc: "gnight" [02:21] ah sorry didn't read [02:21] aha [02:21] lets try that [02:21] pirving, root can get a list on the server with (fwiw) as # smbclient -L 192.168.1.101 -U john [02:21] so if your in cli as root, you dont have to change over [02:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:22] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [02:22] root@lucille:/mnt/smb# cp 2* /home/john/ [02:22] cp: omitting directory `2 Frank Zappa Discography Part Two' [02:23] cp -R ? [02:23] yp [02:23] it's doing something [02:23] i thould have used verbose I suppose [02:24] -v ? [02:24] but backing up a home over samba is a mess imo [02:24] nfs? [02:24] yeah, like nullboy said, perms can get all messed up [02:25] windows has everything as 0777 [02:25] Old_Fogie, silly question: with that in ~/.xbindkeysrc, how do I invoke it? do I need to do anything special for ~/.xbindkeysrc to be recognized in the first place? [02:25] you can do things in samba, but it's a pita [02:25] Old_Fogie: I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean [02:26] pirving, now if it's just a backup, and it has to be a win client, you could just go into /home, then tar -cf /mnt/sbm/myhomebackup.tar john/ [02:26] No, I'm just transfering some mp3's [02:26] tar is not compressed, so it just wraps it in a .tar file, will be fast, and maintain the perms inside the .tar file [02:26] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [02:26] pirving: why can't you just use scp? [02:27] Ficthe, xbindkeys has to be killed then started again to observe new edits in the config file [02:27] I guess I like to make things complicated [02:27] is it a win client on /mnt/smb or a linux box [02:27] scp -r directory_to_send/ root@server:/place/to/send/ [02:27] if the client is windows use winscp [02:29] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.93.246) joined ##slackware. [02:30] scp is just cp that supports network paths and security. for it, it's in the top 20 of most utilized tools [02:30] Old_Fogie, oh, here I was trying to "killall xbindkeys" like an idiot, it doesn't come packed with slack eh [02:30] hee hee :) [02:30] t0f (i=1000@wlk-barre-69-72-77-141.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:30] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:30] must've been the OCD :) [02:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:31] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:32] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [02:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:33] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.64.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] *yawn* [02:33] Action: tewmten sips his double espresso and writes some more php [02:33] damnit the weather today is so awesome [02:33] why did i go to work :( [02:33] nullboy: the p3 made kernel stops at the same point [02:33] woah, wait, Old_Fogie - that's not a toggle mute, that's just mute? [02:34] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left ##slackware. [02:34] oh, aumix -v100 gets it back. nevermind. I hope it's easy to work this into creating a toggle with xbindkeys [02:35] of course the one on slack 12.2 boots fine [02:36] can i just boot the install cd and chroot and re-generate the seed, somehow? [02:37] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-180-201.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:37] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: [02:38] aquataine (n=depot@114.121.16.8) joined ##slackware. [02:39] doh [02:39] i accidently overwrote one of our development databses.. [02:39] suddenly our coders werent happy with me [02:39] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] i really wouldn't want to redo my system from scratch if i can help it [02:41] what seed? [02:41] there is no seed [02:41] Action: edman007 eats nullboy's brain with a bent spoon [02:41] i remember years ago i went from an intel to an amd and there was something that i forget, that i did to get it working [02:41] there is no spoon [02:41] and no brain either :( [02:42] edman007: then what are you eating dude?! [02:42] here is exactly where it hangs: "Using /etc/random-seed to initialize /dev/urandom" [02:42] i'm a hungry zombie...i'm not really aware of my actions [02:43] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:44] braaaaains [02:45] t0f, what are you doing? are you having problems or just dreaming of problems? [02:45] i have an amd xp2400+ and this is the error i get [02:46] Action: edman007 watches peer sneak up on t0f [02:49] enki (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] enki (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:52] hey, nullboy [02:52] http://services.google.com/latitudevideo/view.html#n0qtkdr5m0mtkkanx5z0RCERCEE5s0Fnnfkd [02:53] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:53] oh man, this is going to be funny...i got a prof who wants code printed out and put in the report...i have 1500 lines of code :/ [02:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ABCiPJRCyA [02:54] Ficthe: hey [02:55] I've seen that video before. What an idiot. Trying to act "tough" and keep on speaking.. he ought to be slapped repeatedly [02:55] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) joined ##slackware. [02:55] lmao [02:55] more than just an idiot.. who in the name of damn hell would keep on speaking and keep going on about with whatever you're going on about?! [02:55] that google latitude link is great [02:56] yeah. You're quite famous, I suppose. [02:56] lacroix (n=lacroix@about/linux/staff/lacroix) joined ##slackware. [02:56] i'd get my bleeding ass to a surgeon [02:56] That is so amazing you can mount a smb share!!!!! [02:56] that Google would orchestrate such a large-scale effort to please you [02:56] pirving: lol [02:56] Ficthe: haha i know the deal [02:56] damn. [02:56] there was another one of those a while back that was some hot chick holding your phone number up [02:57] Action: pirving wonders how the hell long have they been able to do that [02:58] a long long time [02:58] mount -t cifs //192.168.1.101/john /mnt/smb -o,username=john,rw,gid=users allows read write access right? [02:58] only if the share allows rw. that command allows users rw to the mounted directory [02:58] if the share doesn't do rw, you only will get r [02:58] pirving, you have been able to mount em for a long time, but i don't know about integration with the mount command [02:59] Ed Mann - Frank Zappa Musician http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Mann [03:01] interesting...i have not seen that [03:02] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) left irc: "‚»" [03:02] Action: pirving is a HUGE Zappa Fan! [03:03] Action: pirving is also a slackware fan / a Patrick Volderking Fan [03:03] I would say I'm an intermediate user [03:03] not a noob but close [03:04] I have ran BSD's particaularly liking OpenBSD, I like the package install [03:04] pirving [03:04] if you were running obsd [03:04] you shoud be Theo fan [03:04] :D [03:04] very true!!! [03:04] :D [03:04] Only 2 remote security holes in 10 years [03:05] Yeah [03:05] or whatever the thingie is [03:05] :D [03:05] I'm too lazey to look it up [03:05] pirving, i remember when it was one [03:05] anyone want to do it for me [03:05] we just yesterday discussed this with someone [03:05] :D [03:05] edman007: me too [03:05] The reason I am not using obsd [03:05] Deja VU [03:05] is Theo [03:05] they are slacking [03:05] :D [03:05] It's a ford of Netbsd right????? [03:05] or Freebsd? [03:05] fork [03:05] edman007: o/ [03:06] o/ [03:06] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.12.174) joined ##slackware. [03:06] NetBSD = Ford Trucks : Shitty [03:06] OpenBSD = Nissan [03:06] frullet, i must sleep :( [03:06] FreeBSD = Voltzvagon [03:06] edman007: who needs sleep when i have beer ;) [03:06] i have none :( [03:07] DragonFlyBSD=Chevy [03:07] Darwin=Geo [03:07] edman007: :( [03:07] Various LiveCD bsd's on distrowatch.org = Honda [03:07] wake me up when you have beer to share [03:07] struct { [03:07] char *type; [03:07] u_long retaddr; [03:07] Channel flood from s474n -- kicking [03:07] } targets[] = { // hehe, yes theo, that say OpenBSD here! [03:07] s474n kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:07] Slackware = Harley Davidson [03:07] s474n (n=strato@g227164181.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:07] edman007: enjoy your coma :) [03:08] frullet, i won't [03:08] Slackware = BSA [03:08] but i must do it in order to avoid a coma tomorrow night [03:08] at this time it was 0 exploits [03:08] for 5 years [03:08] slack = god [03:08] :D [03:08] Action: edman007 -> bed [03:08] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:08] edman007: nothing worse then being drowsy [03:09] Slackware drinks your milkshake [03:09] edman007, hey, it's too early for bed :) [03:09] MacOSX=Volvo !!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA [03:09] Windows = Chevy Nova [03:09] ok i have to admit i lol'd at that one pirving [03:09] the volvo [03:09] Windows = Ford Escort [03:09] Camarade_Tux, yea...but its 3am, and i have to wake up by 11 or so, and be at school until 10pm or so...and then drive 2 hours home [03:10] Windows = Grand Am YES!!!!!!! [03:10] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:10] Action: edman007 -> bed (really) [03:10] night edman007 ;) [03:10] Action: Camarade_Tux just woke up [03:10] nt [03:10] linux is johnny cash's Cadillac [03:11] Slackware = Camero [03:11] Slackware needs an official car [03:11] Lincoln Continental [03:11] lol [03:11] crown vic [03:11] for sure [03:11] Buick [03:11] HA [03:11] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.178.164) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:11] slackware is the crown vic of distros [03:12] and no, not the interceptor version [03:12] the insurance salesman version [03:12] I was gonna say [03:12] are you a nark, because I believe in Medical Marijauna [03:12] -cept slackware drivers have to know how to do their own mechanics.. [03:12] and recreational [03:13] Slackware Pole: How many people support Med Marijuana. They passed a law in Maine, but you can't buy it [03:13] Poll [03:13] Pole [03:13] whatever [03:13] ftw [03:13] slackware pole, hmmmmmm [03:14] I've got a big slackware pole for Nullboy [03:14] dude no [03:14] no means no [03:14] no bro rape allowed [03:14] Action: pirving chuckles, then pulls up his silky pants [03:14] they rub together nicely [03:14] no rape except for macavity -_- [03:14] how do you not know I'm a fucking hot chick [03:14] sorry [03:14] swearing [03:14] read the fules [03:14] because girls don't use the internet? [03:15] \/topic [03:15] how true [03:15] the use facebook [03:15] http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/138360_main.jpg [03:15] I met a chick on craigslist , the date went great, she paid for my beer, we talked all night and I haven't heard from her since [03:16] you let a girl pay for your beer? [03:16] Action: pirving would hang himself, but he's on anti-depressants [03:16] pirving, you can't be a girl if you're on this channel : the quota of 1% is already reached [03:16] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] (well, you can be 0.73 girls but that's it) [03:16] and what chick would have a name like pirving [03:16] you let a girl buy you a beer. [03:16] this ends our relationship, pirving [03:16] send me some beer in the mail like a micro brew [03:17] me should start the Slackware Micro-Brew club [03:17] I have some Maine Geary's ale and shipyard and boston lager [03:18] Fischer and Jenlain ftw ! [03:18] were over nullboy come pick up your ornate smoking pipes and various dildo's and the swing and blow up doll, now!!! [03:19] Ok, send Pirving beer in the mail [03:19] pleae [03:19] please [03:19] plea [03:19] hello [03:19] what TOOL do i use to convert text to binary ? [03:19] or even code ... [03:19] well, I would listen to TOOL while doing it [03:19] a compiler? [03:20] a compiler turns human readable into binary [03:20] nullboy, yeah but the output is not binary its jibberish [03:20] Agiofws, open it with bpe :D [03:20] Action: pirving is learning bash scripting and C++ [03:20] i mean literal 0101010100101 [03:21] Agiofws: as far as i understand it (i am no programmer) humans don't work with it at that level [03:21] we will work with it in HEX usually [03:21] nullboy, i need it in pure binary [03:21] Action: pirving gives thanks to Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, he is going to name his children Dennis and Ken and Albert and Linus...Albert Hoffman inventer of LSD and You know who linus is oh yeah and Pat [03:21] Agiofws: is this a art project? [03:21] an* [03:22] yes :) [03:22] LOL [03:22] hehe [03:22] i knew it [03:22] ;) [03:22] hahah [03:22] is there an upgradepkg log, something like the PKGTOOL.REMOVED from pkgtool? [03:24] bvi - binary file editor ? [03:24] agiofws: you can use python and make script for it [03:24] prefer bash [03:25] Action: Old_Fogie is going thru his bookmarks in opera, and wonder why I ever bookmarked some, heck... many of these and scratches his head [03:27] same here.. though I can always recall that I only bookmark things because I deem them "important to study at some point in time" .. aaaaand of course I never do study them [03:27] i have a serious bookmark problem [03:27] I assure you, probably not as grave as mine [03:27] make sure to back them up [03:28] yeah I may just delete everything outside of what's in the standard menu in the browser by the addy bar [03:28] this is way too many [03:28] kanjoute1i (n=rin@c-24-17-208-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:28] oh, delete? I always just port them to a folder [03:28] I still have the welcome to window links! :) [03:28] i have over 23 folders and probably 100+ other loose bookmarks [03:28] is there no logs of upgradepkg at all? [03:28] hi, I have a harddrive I used for my slackware setup. I have a new enclosure I want to put it in, but, when I boot up on it, I get a kernel panic [03:28] Chrysalis, how did you upgrade? [03:29] I have tried to build initrd.gz, but, that doesn't do anything for me [03:29] Old_Fogie, upgradepkg obviuously [03:29] what should I do? [03:29] I have the correct things compiled in the kernel, not as modules that is [03:29] I set the UUID in my lilo conf [03:29] there's other ways to upgrade. but no, no log for that. next time use # upgradepkg foo.tgz 2>&1 |tee /someplace/myupgrade.log [03:30] Chrysalis, the only other option is to go by date in /var/log packages|scripts removed to get an idea and sort by date in a file manager [03:30] Old_Fogie, i need a log to grep things from [03:30] anyway, next time ill just pipe to a text file [03:31] anyone? [03:31] Chrysalis, I always do the logging as well, I grep for "Skip" and "WARN" fwiw, very helpful. [03:31] Old_Fogie, wonders why there isnt a log by default [03:32] anyway, the idea is to keep it as primitive as possible i guess [03:32] I dont know really, it'd be nice if it had the option to pass, like upgradepkg --logfile=/someplace foo-1.0-noarch-1.tgz [03:33] or upgradepkg -l /someplace , or set a global location [03:33] like /etc/upgradepkg.d or so [03:33] for a config to set it [03:34] well, maybe a pkgtools.d with a conf there, for removepkg as well. [03:35] anybody here a blues traveler fan? [03:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:36] a/dbus-1.2.12-i486-1.tgz: Moved from L, needed by CUPS. <--- that's both interesting, and scary depend for cups. [03:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:37] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.64.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:47] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.12.174) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.121) joined ##slackware. [03:49] You know, going down distrowatch's list of programs that list the latest vs available, and what slackware --current has in it now, there's like, oh I dont know 11 apps in --current that aren't the latest possible. and by looking at what those 11 are, I dont know you'd really want them versions just yet. Man what else is there at this point, I guess bugg hunting? Mr. V and the team are really work their butt's off on this [03:49] release. we're not even 4 months out since last slack. [03:51] yea, ive only used current for a couple of weeks and was wondering if its just a conicidence or if they actually work on keep it it always up to date [03:52] current usually goes in waves [03:52] unless there is a serious security notice [03:52] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] Chrysalis, for the most part, from my observations, it seems, once you get a release right, there's no changes listed in --current. you think to yourself, the Slack team is hibernating, but then one day, about a month later, --current is swamped with a ton of stuff. [03:53] unless, a sec fix is out. and then it's in waves, but lately it's really hopping. [03:54] yeah 2 bi hops in te last few weeks [03:54] *big [03:54] yup [03:54] you are better off using arch if you want current honestly [03:54] what's the most popular general-purpose embedded linux distro these days? [03:54] but current on Slack is diff then current on some other distros' so thats good. an intermediate user like me can live in --currrent without major surprises for the most part [03:55] Chrysalis: you can use whatever you want [03:55] to me, only openwrt is the only readily-recognizable embedded linux.. but it's best suited for routers and all that [03:55] Chrysalis, I'd never use nor recommend arch..it's package manager is insecure (no gpg, checksums) so it's hard for me to even consider it a valid distro. just my 0.02$ [03:57] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-6.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] which packages or programs would I run to get the /dev dir back to it's "freshly" installed default ? [03:59] using -current on a spare testing box and giving feedback is what makes the next stable [03:59] Old_Fogie, you think pkg signing would stop someone if they wanted to give you a bad pkg? [03:59] if you have that luxury of course [03:59] Old_Fogie, they are just trying to keep tings simple, and thats what people over there want [03:59] i have the luxury of running current on my daily laptop [04:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-147-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] Arch is not something I'd advise over Slackware... [04:00] Chrysalis: so use arch then, you can use whatever you want. that's the beauty [04:00] nullboy, i use it :), just saying [04:00] Chrysalis, someone giving me a bad package would never go into my system. If you use arch, every package could have a root kit, and youd *never* know. [04:00] you can even use wicd if you must lol [04:00] I stick to stable on 2 boxes I need to use and -current on a spare which is the only way I wil do it from now on [04:01] nullboy, touche' lol :) [04:01] Heya,folks..What's up? [04:01] omg i think flames are shooting out of my butt [04:01] kanjoute1i (n=rin@c-24-17-208-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] Hi MLanden. How are you? [04:01] Old_Fogie, its yet to happen, when it happens people will consider taking measures, meanwhile people enjoy super fast pkg management and more time using their system [04:01] Heya,firebird619 [04:01] monrning/evening/afternoon MLanden [04:02] Chrysalis: obviously you are not _using_ Slackware... only commenting on it [04:02] Now, for all I know, alienbob builds packages for Slackware, and Mr. V issues them with his sig, which is fine by me, since Mr. V owns them, blesses them if you will. But there is at the end of the day, a chain of trust. In arch that doesnt happen. [04:02] $TIMEOFDAY,dive..:D [04:02] Hi there Old_Fogie :-) [04:02] indeed :) [04:02] MLanden: I'm actually just leaving, it's 3:00 AM here. So have a good morning/afternoon/evening. [04:03] you too,firebird619 [04:03] thanks. [04:03] nullboy,able to extinguish that fire? [04:03] I think last night while I was drunk I did a -current painting my front door lol [04:03] just had a look at the misses [04:03] Chrysalis, no I think arch has potential, but it's never going to be taken seriously by corporations, or security minded people until they do. It's a shame, I think the distro has potential, it really does. But like I said, I'd never use nor recommned it til' they do. If people want to use it fine. But let's call it what it is, insecure by design - sadly :( [04:03] alienBOB, who says i only have to use 1 distro? i have slack on one machine, just arch is my main [04:03] dive: btw, I solved the kernel issue, I just rebuilt it and now everything works great. I don't know what was wrong with the other one. [04:03] hello alienBOB :) [04:04] firebird619, good to hear [04:04] Old_Fogie, its not trying to be taken seriously by corporations, it just gives freedom to people that want to use it on the desktop [04:04] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-6.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware. [04:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:04] (* slackware has a 2.6.29 kernel, it's probably one of the most current distro *) [04:05] btw alienBOB thanks for the mkinitrd_command_generator.sh script. Great idea, works great here on 12.2 :-) [04:05] (* in -current of course *) [04:05] Chrysalis, no their comparison wiki to other distro's in a sense to knock them, or the fact that any review of slackware has an arch user in the replies section is always an arch user slamming slack, or any other distro is highly misleading [04:05] it wants to run with the big dogs, but it's still stuck on the front porch [04:05] Camarade_Tux, yes I noticed the kernel update in -current from yesterdayu [04:06] Chrysalis, I ofcourse, am a Slack zealout tho :) [04:06] Action: dive checks the channel name :-) [04:07] Old_Fogie, its what you make it. if i was using any linux on a critical system i would be compiling every pkg from source anyway [04:07] now, something I wonder : what has been thought of the stability of xz ? iirc they're not stable yet, even in the file format [04:07] (* Why are you speaking in Pascal comments? *) [04:07] Urchlay, ML ones ;) [04:07] was a guess, haven't done Pascal since high school [04:07] or was xz-utils rather considered as a more up-to-date lzma-utils ? [04:08] Btw Old_Fogie Chrysalis - upgradepkg logs it's activities in /var/log/removed_packages/ [04:08] alienBOB, yes but it's doesnt show Skipping... or WARNING... tho [04:08] Urchlay, they're the same anyway, I was doing ocaml a minute ago :) [04:08] if memory serves me correclty. alienBOB [04:09] Camarade_Tux: the first thing that comes to mind when you say ML is "machine language" (assembly done by poor people who can't afford an assembler) :) [04:09] Urchlay, yep I used to poke in BASIC in the 80's [04:10] I don't think there even was an assembler compiler for TRS80 at the time [04:10] in some ways, those days were a lot more fun than now... [04:10] alienBOB, what I do (and mabye I just do it wrong) is # upgradepkg somepak.tgz 2>&1 |tee upgrade.log and then #grep Skip upgrade.log and #grep WARN upgrade.log ; as many times I'm in screen, and you have horrible scroll back and such. [04:10] Urchlay, actually I didn't know what it standed for;p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_(programming_language) ;) [04:11] alienBOB, so that way I get what's echo'd out on screen. for removepkg it's vital, to address the config.new's having been renamed and such. [04:11] think I would go with Medieval Latin [04:12] Old_Fogie: ah, now I understand better what kind of logging you were talking about. The slackpkg tool tries to take care of some of these concerns [04:12] heh, I just was trying in another channel to convince a guy he should learn C [04:13] told him "it's the Latin of programming languages, once you know it, it becomes easy to learn a ton of other languages that are descended from it" [04:13] I dont think my argument convinced him though [04:14] jnz_ (n=jnz_@87.13.134.246) joined ##slackware. [04:14] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.40.64) joined ##slackware. [04:14] alienBOB, yes I'd like to see a, let's say /etc/pkgtools.d directory with a /etc/pkgtools.d/pkgtools.conf file. In it, I can set a logfile location maybe, a verbosity option, so that I can get the echo's that pkgtool's removepkg and upgradepkg spit on screen for example "XYZ file was found in another package ...Skipping" and "WARNING new files found in XYZ directory" [04:14] Urchlay, C is also the english of programming languages [04:15] alienBOB, maybe a truncated report of /var/log/skips_and_warnings/skips_and_warnings-for-removal-of-XYZ-package. [04:15] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] alienBOB, it'd make it nice and tidy to know by looking in that location, what files need the admin attention. Just a suggestion in the suggestion box I suppose :) [04:16] It will remain that - a suggestion :-) You can use tee to log the tools' output [04:17] alienBOB, yes that's what I do know the 2>&1 |tee . [04:17] I think of Perl as the English of programming languages... full of irregular constructs, and a mix of German (bash) and Latin (C) [04:17] atleast an -l switch to dump a log in the current dir to grep for errors/warrnings [04:17] Chrysalis, agreed [04:18] as is now, using pkgtool for upgradepkg/removepkg the admin has nothing, and if working in screen, you're screwed. you have no idea what files need attetion, the .new files, or new files in some dir that were added after the pack was installed. which is why I log the way I do know, but if it were in the script,well it's just there and saves my typing time, and grep time and such. [04:19] Action: Old_Fogie is waiting for alienBOB to say "well patches are welcome" :) [04:19] Urchlay, right, I was considering its universal aspect, how most people understand it [04:20] you can never have enough logs so ++ [04:21] yeah... I guess I was thinking of the time period when Latin was universal, too [04:22] also, i dont understand why theres 3 different tools that pretty much do the same thing (but i am just an arch nub) [04:23] Chrysalis, I suppose it's just so the binary name relects it's action versus, oh pkgtool --remove or pkgtool --upgrade [04:23] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-6.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] Chrysalis, let's be glad Slack doesn't have a ChAnGeCaSeFoReAcHaCtIoNlIkEaRcHdOes [04:24] what would someone have to do to make /dev/ just like it was right after first installing slackware ? [04:24] Soul_keeper, /dev is autogenerated on boot [04:24] Soul_keeper: /dev is automagically updated by udevd these days [04:25] Soul_keeper, you dont touch anything in there [04:25] well, you sort-of do, by editing the udev rules [04:26] /etc/udev/rules.d <--one dir that /me keeps his dirty mitts out of at all costs :) [04:26] I can mess stuff up on my own, but that's asking for issues in there, ahahah [04:27] basically I'm stuck with a system that kernel panics right after udev runs with the default kernel [04:27] I have another kernel i can select in lilo, it boots but has no internet [04:27] huge kernel? or custom? [04:27] the huge kernel [04:28] are the modules installed for it? [04:28] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] is there a package for that / [04:28] for the huge-smp kernel, yes , two iirc [04:28] I installed the kernel from the k series over again, but apparently it didn't write anything to /lib/modules [04:29] what slack version Soul_keeper ? [04:29] this is actually slamd64 12.2 but very similar [04:30] FAIL [04:30] I think you're supposed to have both of these from (a) iirc from what pkgtool says, when you're installing them in the installer, kernel-modules-2.6.27.7-i486-1.tgz kernel-modules-smp-2.6.27.7_smp-i686-1.tgz [04:30] Soul_keeper: ought to ask in #slamd64 [04:30] they are sleeping [04:30] been trying to get somewhere with this for 6hrs, [04:31] Well switch to Slackware then Soul_keeper [04:31] thanks Old_Fogie that's all I neede [04:31] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-6.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware. [04:31] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Well, let's just be glad he didn't ask about B&W :) [04:32] ghfu (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:33] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.40.64) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:34] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.2.40) joined ##slackware. [04:34] any oneusing awesome window manager? [04:35] i am setting the background using feh [04:35] but its still remaining in the status bar [04:35] so the background is not actually set and it acts as another application in another window [04:42] zerox0, you can set the wallpaper in the theme config [04:42] zerox0, dont need feg [04:43] s/feg/feh [04:45] molec (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] someone named an application "feh"? [04:45] indeed [04:45] like, "feh, I don't feel like naming this right now" [04:45] no, thats what he calls his gf [04:47] Action: Chrysalis thinks 'feh' is actually a pretty cool name [04:51] sQuEE` (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [04:51] zerox0, step away from that hideous window manager, there's a slackbuild for xmonad now. :) [04:53] eww, haskell ;/ [04:53] has anyone already written a script to automate slackbuild (get the slackbuild tgz, get the source tgz, check the MD5, create temp dirs, extract, run slackbuild, installpkg it, clean,etc) ? [04:54] Great! at last, something to do this weekend! [04:56] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.143.251) joined ##slackware. [04:56] molec: it's called sbopkg [04:56] Thats great too! thanks. will check it out. New to slackware here [04:57] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:58] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:58] got an off-topic question for native english: what is a general term for sign bridges, lamp posts, and other support structures at roadside? [04:59] don't think there is a general term [04:59] so the failbus has not yet arrived today! :-) [04:59] lamp posts are lamp posts, don't know what a sign bridge is though [04:59] slava_dp, I failed enough last night for the rest of the day [04:59] "things you see at roadside" for 500, Alex [05:00] dive: like a sign post, but spanning the whole road... [05:00] road signs [05:00] ah [05:00] don't know then [05:00] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.2.40) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:00] dive, was it so bad? [05:00] how's support for tablet pc's nowadays? [05:00] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:00] dunno I was drunk at the time.. [05:01] I've never used one -- but for someone who has: is there an application (like in Apple's iphone) that features a qwerty keyboard that you can essentially touch-type on - on the screen? [05:01] I even painted most of my front door last night while drunk - just been out to check on it [05:01] lots of misses [05:01] but no runs [05:01] so not all bad [05:02] :-D [05:02] Action: slava_dp feels sorry for dive's front door [05:02] jnz_ (n=jnz_@87.13.134.246) left irc: "brb" [05:02] man I gotta build this 'nitrogen' for my slackware. I'm using it on debian here, playing with it, this is nice. [05:02] a wallpaper changer [05:03] thr problem now is that the door lock/bolt looks really bad [05:03] molec (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left ##slackware ("Slackalaking away!"). [05:03] so probably need new one [05:04] http://projects.l3ib.org/nitrogen/ <--homepage [05:04] mirash (n=mirash@117.196.147.58) joined ##slackware. [05:04] i fail to come to work on time each day. can't help it and don't know how to change it. [05:04] thanks anyways [05:04] Old_Fogie, xfce 4.6 now supprts using multiple desktop imgs [05:05] slava_dp, try to wake up early [05:05] dive, oh yeah? I didnt notice it, I'm still annoyed no more custom menu's :( [05:05] mirash, i do, but then i end up wasting all of the gained time doing all kinds of things but going to work. [05:06] Action: slava_dp has to change himself [05:07] Old_Fogie, .desktop files do the job - but it would be nice to be able to have both [05:07] u just do only the most essential things u hav to in the morning and try to get out of ur house 20min early [05:07] true,dive [05:07] and get rid of the 'other' menu which lists everything this side of the universe [05:08] yup [05:08] I had nice menu's setup before, now it's all gone. [05:08] same [05:08] alacarte still to glitchy with that [05:08] how can I change the slackware logo showing on bootup time? [05:08] mirash, in kernel [05:09] how [05:09] tho, I liberated an icewm menu from debian, and been using that menu for my slack (with a few tweaks) and really liking icewm. tho, they really gotta get some menu editor for icewm, but if the work is done for you, man it's just fast. [05:09] well you can turn it on/off and recompile kenel [05:09] in kernel? isn't he talking about the lilo wallpaper? [05:09] mirash, i will gtfo of my house 20 minutes before work time on monday. i give my word to myself. [05:09] ah [05:09] dunno [05:10] slava_dp, u can and u will. gud luck [05:10] mirash, do you mean the tux in top right corner, or the lilo pic? [05:10] rg3, ya. the lilo wallpaper [05:10] dive. no [05:10] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:10] the lilo pic is just a bmp in /boot [05:11] i hav changed it. but not working [05:11] but if you change it you might need change the settings in lilo for where boot options appear [05:11] you need to run lilo [05:12] ahah, there seems to be a mature solution for on-screen keyboards for tablet pc's (as well as handwriting input, which is very impressive in its own right right, even though I wasn't looking for that) -- http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ [05:12] leave it. i wont get any advantage in changing it [05:12] my kde is too slow. crashes regularly [05:13] how can i speed up those things? [05:13] turn off the desktop effects [05:14] like transparency etc [05:14] reposto (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [05:14] they are all turned off. bit then whats the advantage of using kde? [05:15] yep. alternatively, you can choose a more lightweight DE (gnome) or even xfce. If you want real speed, then *box, and if you're plain hardcore, xmonad. [05:15] if all you use kde for are the desktop effects, you can safely move to any other desktop environments and you won't miss anything [05:15] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:16] mirash, KDE is a DE-suite, you still get access to its large array of applications and utilities, just minus the flash [05:16] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [05:17] u said to move to another desktop env,. so if I say slackware is bit slow, u would say to move to another distro [05:17] kde may be many things, but 'crash prone' isn't one of them in book, I wonder what's going on there. maybe a home that's tainted by other linux' messing up the config's and such or what. [05:17] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Old_Fogie, no idea what you're talking about. I've always been a happy KDE-camper. [05:17] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:17] or Kamper, shall I say. [05:18] that's what I mean. his issue is kde crashing alot, which I find odd, it's not a buggy DE. [05:18] I haven't experienced any major, unpredictable crashes [05:18] mirash: being slow usually doesn't have to do with a specific distribution, but more with the applications and software you run [05:18] i think i got RADIUS with ath5k and hostapd working under -current [05:18] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:19] nullboy, nice, took me a while but well worth. [05:20] not under current tho [05:21] kde hasnt crashed here since the 4.0 days, maybe plasma once in a blue moon after i do something super wierd to crash it. [05:21] glen_ (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] this is a mean looking netstat http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/12386 [05:23] weeee [05:23] Action: tewmten is happy [05:23] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: "::" [05:24] i got a promotion [05:24] nice! [05:24] from support engineer to system administrator, permanent contract and 500 euro more per month [05:24] the only time kde crashed for me is buggy radeon driver [05:25] tewmten, nice one [05:25] tewmten: you are now a sysadmin [05:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.227) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:25] a real one [05:25] which means you're a bastard [05:25] bafh [05:25] work will not change much [05:25] lol [05:25] nullboy: i've always been a bastard [05:25] ;D [05:25] haha [05:25] lol [05:25] :D [05:29] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host164-74-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:30] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02D58.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [05:35] anyone here that has a tip on how to indent output from bash? i'm trying to display a calendar in my conky-setup, and I want to indent the output from cal by 5 characters. what I've got so far is 'cal | while read test; do printf "%5s $test\n"; done;', but that oneliner messes up the calendar.. any tips would be appreciated :) [05:37] slim (n=slim@85.17.165.5) joined ##slackware. [05:39] nullboy: did I hear you say you were going to submit radius to SBo? [05:39] dude! [05:39] never mind. solution was simple [05:39] you can just use the built in hostapd radius [05:39] v3gard, and what was the solution? [05:39] cal | sed 's/^/ /' [05:39] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-7aae87dc6c451fec) joined ##slackware. [05:39] it's easy to setup after you figure out the damn openssl certs [05:39] ouch :) [05:40] i'm trying to downgrade to kernel 2.6.28 but i can't find old packages in -current [05:40] nullboy: ahh cool. I've never setup radius before. [05:40] any idea where i should look? [05:40] smica (n=smica@szerver1.ibela.sulinet.hu) left irc: [05:40] kama (n=kama@host128-32-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:40] amazon10x, get the source and build it [05:40] http://kernel.org [05:41] it'd be much easier to just install a couple of tgzs though [05:41] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:42] the mirrors have synced. you won't find packages for 2.6.28 now. [05:42] oh ok [05:42] thanks [05:42] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [05:42] saxa (n=sasa@host242-95-static.223-217-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:42] (only if someone sends 'em to you) [05:42] hey, anybody has an idea why I get this ? [05:42] http://pastebin.com/m11703fa [05:42] tried to issue autoconf but ends up the same way. [05:42] mirash (n=mirash@117.196.147.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:43] reposto (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:43] libtool 2.2.4 Debian-2.2.4-0ubuntu4 [05:43] wtf [05:43] are you even on slackware? [05:43] amazon10x, there ought to be alteast one mirror out of sync, try usc.edu, was out of sync earlier today [05:43] dropline.. [05:46] amazon10x, http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/ [05:47] non-synced mirrors ftw! [05:47] slava_dp: yes [05:48] slava_dp: i'm on slackware [05:48] slava_dp: trying to compile tracker [05:48] i doubt that just downgrading the kernel will work though since half the upgrades are compiled against .29 [05:48] dive: correct , trying to compile tracker for dropline [05:49] i still run .27 and use -current. [05:49] shouldn't be a problem [05:49] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.174) joined ##slackware. [05:50] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.174) left irc: Client Quit [05:53] saxa, well it seems to need a different version of libtool [05:53] chopp: but now that you mention it, i'll try FreeRadius [05:53] no real ideas apart from that [05:53] ut oh, no i won't [05:53] libtool: link: `mppe_keys.lo' is not a valid libtool object [05:53] gmake[7]: *** [libfreeradius-eap.la] Error 1 [05:53] OUCH [05:55] reposto (n=unknown@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [05:55] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:59] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:59] nullboy: I'll set up certs for hostapd later today and give it a go. [06:02] dive: i think i got the solution, autoreconf --force --install -symlink [06:02] thx [06:02] saxa (n=sasa@host242-95-static.223-217-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. 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[06:27] aquataine (n=depot@114.121.22.174) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:27] It looks like 4chan is down, can someone check for me [06:27] this i going to be good [06:28] nullboy: ;0 [06:28] aquataine (n=depot@114.121.22.174) joined ##slackware. [06:31] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.60.143) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:31] Action: Old_Fogie is rubbing his hands together, in/out of each other as he licks his chopps and thinks of pizza & wings tonight. [06:32] Action: The-Croupier waves at the channel gurus ;) [06:32] greetings everyone [06:32] hey croup :) [06:32] WindowsXP_Pro (n=a@unaffiliated/windowsxppro/x-9214721) left irc: [06:32] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:32] hey bro... hows it going ? [06:33] and why does XP always quit on me? [06:33] hello The-Croupier [06:33] oh doing ok. it's friday, so pizza day, so that's good. and you? The-Croupier [06:33] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:33] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [06:33] im ok... busy busy busy but other than that things are going ok... [06:34] alot better than last month so... ;) [06:34] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:34] ah, glad to hear. [06:34] i have to learn how to do stuff on windows these days.. cos windows people do so many stupid things [06:34] soooo many [06:35] could be worse, it could be me having to learn windows stuff ;) [06:35] hahaha [06:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [06:35] i have to learn at some point.. ;) lol ;) [06:35] tho, I'm using windows on my ati boxes these days, but really only as a shell for nomachine-nx running full screen more times then not. [06:35] i know nothing on windows... and most of the stuff they need is windows stuff... [06:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:35] what does 'windows people do so many stupid things' have to do with you learning about windows? [06:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [06:36] rg3 (n=deckard@90.168.195.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] ananke: someone deleted all his emails that are saved on his windows pc... [06:36] and then wants me to get them back... [06:36] The-Croupier : again, what does that have to do with you needing to learn windows? [06:36] is that your job? [06:37] ananke: everyone is using windows.... im supposed to fix their windows problems [06:37] StevenR (n=foo@user-514ffcbe.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:37] ananke: yes [06:37] ohh. i get it now. you're just whining about having to DO YOUR JOB [06:37] ananke: lol [06:37] I feel for people that have to admin windows (xp or under) for a living [06:38] my job description is networking ;) fixing their internet problems or their network problems not their user problems [06:38] i don't. it's their job. they picked it. [06:38] i told them not to click on stuff they dont know... [06:38] ananke, oh sure, the tediousness of it is what I mean. [06:38] i have written so many howtos to do stuff [06:38] they still do their own things [06:39] im not whining about doing something.. im not happy to learn WINDOWS stuff [06:39] hell I'll pick up poop for a living if I have to, hell I'll brag about it for a buck extra too. windows is brutal tho [06:39] The-Croupier : welcome to the real world. the fact that they use windows has nothing to do with how they behave [06:39] The-Croupier : so quit. 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[07:01] <_RadioHead> hi ppl [07:01] hi [07:02] any suggestion for a good graphical smb network browser? using xfce right now [07:03] no problem even if available in slackbuilds [07:03] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:06] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-13-30-240.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:07] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [07:08] reposto: pyneighborhood https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood [07:09] nvision, thanks a lot [07:09] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Client Quit [07:12] theblackbox (n=sammo@94-193-137-211.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:13] s474n (n=strato@g227164181.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:16] brixton (i=brixton@76.73.29.18) joined ##slackware. [07:16] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-193670.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] it wants kde [07:42] :( [07:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:43] woooh. finally got X working again [07:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:43] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:43] i upgraded to 2.6.29 because it was in -curent but it turns out the ati catalyst driver only works with .28 [07:44] and *then* it turns out my ati card won't work with the radeon driver [07:44] slava_dp, smb4k does not work with kde4 ..only with kde3 [07:44] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: i ahve kde and got error kde-config was not found [07:44] but i was able to find a patch that lets teh catalyst driver work with .29 [07:44] <_RadioHead> ah ALVAN that is a reason, clear now:) thx [07:45] hope kdebase and kdelibs is going to be enough [07:45] Action: slava_dp puts his slackware dvd into the drive [07:46] has anyone else had trouble upgrading from kde 4.2.1 to 4.2.2? [07:46] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: maybe if installing kde3-compat will do a job [07:47] _RadioHead, i'm on 12.2 =) [07:47] amazon10x: nope [07:47] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: ah i always thought u r in -current ( dont mind me , i am always using -current) [07:48] _RadioHead, i have a home box (-current) and a laptop (-stable). [07:48] it looks like kde 4.2.2 won't start with my old config files sitting around [07:48] rayenok (n=rayenok@2.Red-88-23-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: anyway kde 3.5.X was much better for my opinion then kde 4.x . in begining i like it but after using few days ...no [07:49] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:49] _RadioHead: i agree. i just don't like this new kde [07:50] and it's been crashing a lot on me too. hopefully the upgrade to 4.2.2 will fix that [07:50] _RadioHead, kde4 is a revolution. i like most of the new stuff. plasma, dolphin, they are awesome. [07:50] the only thing that bothers me is that i cannot start kde-panel as a standalone app.. it needs the whole plasma thing [07:50] amazon10x, nvidia board ? [07:50] yeah dolphin is nice [07:51] ALVAN: yeah, it's an nforce mobo [07:51] the lancelot menu is very nice too :) [07:53] skolem (n=skolem@2.Red-88-23-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:53] rayenok (n=rayenok@2.Red-88-23-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:55] <_RadioHead> amazon10x: :) [07:55] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: new stuff is interesting but not yet usefull like kde 3 for me , with this widgets... , anyway this is begining of kde4 :) [07:55] skelom (n=skelom@2.Red-88-23-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:57] amazon10x, well there arent new linux drivers for an nforce mobo with a built-in graphics card .. i dont know how well the X nvidia drivers works with kde 4 [07:57] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) joined ##slackware. [07:59] <_RadioHead> ALVAN: i read that nvidia and kd4 have problems... but with latest kde4 and nvidia drivere here @job is working good no problem till now. BUT at my home box i can`t start kde4 , ill check after i update to kde 4.2.2 [08:01] well, i've got the fglrx driver and kde 4.2.2 running and it seems to be working fine [08:01] i don't use any of those new fancy effects though [08:04] _RadioHead, yeah the latest nvidia driver fix some kde 4 plasma crash see http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.44.html [08:04] new konq fails the usability test. back to opera [08:05] <_RadioHead> ALVAN: right latest one :) , this is i am using now. but @~ i even can`t start kde 4 i only get after a while black screen and only coursore is moving. [08:05] <_RadioHead> even with vesa or nv driver. so @home is kde problem. hope kde4.2.2 will fix this [08:09] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) got netsplit. 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[08:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:10] <_RadioHead> ALVAN: but i cleared a lot thingy that my coworkers working when i am not here. nicluding dot files :) [08:10] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) returned to ##slackware. [08:10] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) returned to ##slackware. [08:10] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) returned to ##slackware. [08:10] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [08:10] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [08:10] <_RadioHead> ALVAN: but thx for xorg.conf . i need to check that coz i did not edit xorg.cong [08:10] <_RadioHead> f* [08:11] _RadioHead, the nvidia installer edit that for you you jsut need to confirm [08:11] you can also use nvidia-settings to [08:11] ... to do that [08:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:14] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [08:14] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176095141.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:14] <_RadioHead> ALVAN: nvidia installer only edit "nv" to "nvidia" or also other settings? [08:15] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.108.167) left irc: "‚»" [08:15] it edit X settings too ..read the installer steps [08:16] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.66.243) joined ##slackware. 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[08:36] though it has it's bugs [08:36] is it somehow similar to fusesmb ? [08:37] atha_ (n=atha@189.100.116.230) left irc: "leaving" [08:37] it's gui [08:37] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [08:37] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: it requires me < qt3 [08:38] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.66.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:38] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:38] <_RadioHead> > sorry [08:38] hey guys [08:39] _RadioHead, it's on sbo for slackware 12.2. [08:39] Is there some kind of open sores e-mail solution which enables a group of people to share their e-mail communications? [08:39] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:39] <_RadioHead> slava_dp: i installed kde3-compat but. [08:40] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. 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[09:21] i want a simple, lazy solution that will just let me access the shares [09:22] slava_dp: kde? [09:22] slava_dp: konqueror can browse the network, without problems. [09:22] bah, someone noobfarmed me and didn't put the whole thing, it was funnier with the followup "thats what she said" [09:22] thumbs, i don't use kde. i need something portable. [09:23] Action: fiya_werkin facepalms at http://noobfarm.org/?id=1483 [09:23] lol [09:24] lol [09:24] bazzawilleee (n=bazza@ppp121-45-43-166.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.0.128.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:26] heh [09:26] Noobfarm Agents are everywhere [09:27] how do you use fusesmb? [09:27] does it need samba running? [09:29] Action: slava_dp is in despair [09:32] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-172-010.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:32] rworkman: are you there? [09:32] overvolt: kinda; what's up? [09:33] =- ) [09:33] rworkman: Sadly, not the temps! [09:33] slava_dp: the samba package has many tools like mount.smbfs smbclient and such. don't they work ? [09:33] so [09:33] FriedBob: ha. It's quite nice here. [09:33] i'm looking at Slackbuilds, an package made by you [09:33] museek, the soulseek client write in C++ [09:34] rworkman: It's nice here too. That weekend recently you had snow, we just had a little rain. [09:34] has any one had to file a tax extention ever? [09:34] Lord_Khelben, something more automated than smbmount? :) [09:34] nix_chix0r: Not I [09:34] nix_chix0r: I've filed 1040s, 1065s, 1099s and several others, but not that one. [09:34] i still haven't recieved my W-2's from the old northwest airlines and i'm getting paranoid [09:34] rworkman: I've never heard of... it is cool? [09:35] slava_dp: what do you mean automated ? i think smbfs can be put in /etc/fstab so it would be automated [09:35] nix_chix0r: Call your local tax office. [09:35] nix_chix0r: god laid off? [09:35] Lord_Khelben, like a network neighbourhood browser. something that can show all the available shares and mount them. [09:36] nix_chix0r: Do you have your last paystub? That can help [09:36] slava_dp: smbtree, and script the output [09:36] thumbs, no they canned me for using the bathroom too much even though i was prego [09:36] and they are making it impossible to file my damn taxes [09:36] nix_chix0r: what??? [09:36] that's ridiculous. [09:36] their reason"me not making my sit hours" [09:37] as a preformance issue [09:37] bazzawil1eee (n=bazza@ppp121-45-136-93.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] nix_chix0r: Contact your local IRS office,and also file a complaint with the DoL / EOE people. [09:37] overvolt: I didn't write that - if anything, all I did was approve it. I don't use it. [09:38] FriedBob: wow. No snow here, thankfully :) [09:38] humm I see [09:38] rworkman: #SGF had snow, what, 2 weekends ago? [09:38] i was looking for a good soulseek client [09:38] FriedBob: Minnesota did, I think :D [09:38] i dont understand these babies , it's like they have to be fed more than once a day:D [09:38] I used Nicotine for a while, but I had some problems [09:38] he finally woke up [09:39] slim (n=slim@85.17.165.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] rworkman: I'm out of the Springfield area now. Moved to the east coast. [09:39] Ohh [09:40] rworkman: My wife works for SSA. They decided they wanted her in Baltimore, so here we are. [09:40] Ick, baltimore. [09:41] I hated that place when i was there. [09:41] I like it so far. [09:41] We are in Owings Mills rather than Baltimore proper. [09:41] we might be moving to dc [09:41] Oh, ah. [09:41] pentagon job [09:41] I can look out the window and see trees. [09:41] nix_chix0r: Gratz [09:42] DC is semi okay but it's outskirts towards baltimore and the beginning of baltimore are trashy as all hell imo. [09:42] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [09:42] who wouldnt want to work for obama llama [09:42] nix_chix0r: Dang your little one wont need to hack the gibson now. [09:42] I know several people here facebook, as I found 'em through the group. But what about Twitter? [09:42] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Client Quit [09:43] hes totally taking a crap while i feed him [09:43] rosh__ (n=rosh@e176086102.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:43] nix_chix0r: That's what they do. [09:43] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) joined ##slackware. [09:44] it sounds big and deadly rofl [09:44] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [09:45] FriedBob, this is when i could pass him to his dad [09:45] Heh [09:45] Lord_Khelben (n=null@188.4.250.105) left irc: "l8er" [09:45] supriiise poop [09:45] nix_chix0r: Just remember that input ~= output.... [09:45] lol [09:45] Hand him to dad in the way that dad has to grab him by his butt so he knows what he has to do. :P [09:46] at least it doesnt stink yet [09:46] nix_chix0r: Then be sure to pass himoff ebfore he does, so you can claim innocence! [09:46] hahah [09:47] olefowdie (n=Ford@adsl-176-19-201.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [09:47] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [09:47] brixton (i=brixton@76.73.29.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] Seems every time I try to code something, I run into an issue that is one that no one can or will help me wiht. :/ [09:49] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [09:49] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[10:06] someone was used the xine? [10:07] eh? [10:07] does KDe4 have its own network / wifi manager ? WICD looks really ugly .. [10:08] dunno - networkmanager should work but it has some crazy dependencies imho [10:08] duryodhan_: you might consider trying the devel version of wicd: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/wicd/ [10:09] duryodhan_: also, there will be a wicd-solid engine in kde-4.3 [10:09] aye [10:09] wicd is gettin gintegrated :D [10:09] (basically, a native kde4 interface to wicd) [10:09] yep! [10:10] thanks rworkman [10:10] chb: re networkmanager, it's a lost cause right now. It requires PolicyKit, which is either stale (the present "PolicyKit" sources) or in *massive* flux and unbuildable on Slackware (the new "polkit" sources that are being rewritten) [10:10] duryodhan_: np [10:10] and when will kde4.3 be in current ? [10:11] duryodhan_: well, definitely after 4.3 releases. [10:11] ohh heh [10:11] D: [10:11] Since that hasn't happened, there's no danger of it being in -current any time soon :) [10:11] do I also need urwid for wicd's devel version ? [10:11] yeah 4.3 is all SVN right now [10:11] yes [10:11] duryodhan_: ^ [10:12] rworkman» yes I built it and it was useless :/ [10:12] duryodhan_: well, there's a curses interface (wicd-curses) that uses urwid [10:12] I run KDE4:Factory in openSUSE JUST for the reason of testing KDE4 release cycles ;).. its constantly getting updated [10:12] chb: :) [10:12] ohh ok [10:12] eddief2 (n=eddie@pool-141-157-214-97.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] I only wish there was 3G support for wicd and some sort wpa_supplicant.conf import [10:13] in wicd that is [10:14] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:14] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] chb: re supplicant file import, you can write a custom template. However, I think that will be largely unnecessary with the chagnes in 1.6 [10:14] chb: re 3g support, hopefully for 2.0 [10:14] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [10:15] rworkman» nice :) [10:16] rworkman do you know of any working build scripts for kde4.2.2 for 12.2? [10:16] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [10:16] eddief2 (n=eddie@pool-141-157-214-97.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:16] nille_: check -current [10:17] they are all there [10:17] well sice they moved the install paths i need to modify them [10:17] moved? [10:17] they didn't move install paths, it still goes to /usr [10:18] however, the ones from -current will not work without the 20-30-ish extra deps kde4 requires [10:18] hmm i got that answer the other day when i asked [10:18] so i can build the ones from current on 12.2 [10:18] i'm not updated about current (haven't tried it yet) [10:19] if you have all of the kde4 dependencies installed [10:19] nille_: depends really what you want, kde4.2 for Slackware always installed into /usr/ and was meant as a replacement for kde3. I think it was vbatts who made some build script long time back that allowed you to install kde4 alongside kde3 [10:19] well i only want kde4 [10:20] not that I'm recommending it, updating to -current would be much easier. [10:20] That's what I'd do :) [10:20] well i don't want current on this box [10:20] -current ftw [10:20] :) [10:21] then you either compile everything from kde4.x.y (fun fun fun) or you dont run kde4 :) [10:21] i will compile then [10:21] thats fun fun fun :p [10:21] have fun [10:21] be sure to do anything that has been added to -current first [10:21] yep [10:22] i have the kde4 folder [10:23] that's only half of it. [10:23] i don't think you understand that kde will NOT compile without additional stuff [10:23] and i already run 4.2 [10:23] then, what do you want? [10:23] 4.2.2 [10:23] thrice`: handholding? ;) [10:23] not 4.2.0 [10:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:24] it's too early, and my day off :) [10:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:27] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:28] what do you call this day in english in swedish it translates to long friday (since it should be so boring that the day feels like it never ends) [10:29] nille_: Good Friday. [10:29] so ours boring and long and yours good :( [10:30] mine is hangover friday.. [10:30] haha [10:30] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.171) left irc: "‚»" [10:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.77) left irc: "Leaving" [10:33] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] bofh__ (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [10:36] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-81-107-65-113.bmly.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. 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Konsole/xterm whatever .. #KDE people tell me its a problem with shell , but I tried zsh,csh and bash .. same problem .. 5D is printed [10:43] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:45] duryodhan not on Linux atm but doesnt Shift-ArrowLeft work? [10:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:45] nille_ (i=1000@c-2163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:46] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:46] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [10:47] alienBOB: the shift+left is key for prev tab in konsole; in xterm it prints 2D [10:48] no .. neither in console .. no response [10:48] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. 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[11:08] mornin' [11:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:11] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:11] anyone know if is possible execute commands on mutt ? ex. I received one mail, and execute commanda after that. [11:12] comp__ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:12] morning frullet:) [11:13] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:13] hitest: hey mate, how goes it? [11:13] bofh__ (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:13] it goes well, frullet:) you? [11:14] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:16] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.47.227) joined ##slackware. [11:16] hitest: doin well :) [11:17] me_ (n=me_@89.240.53.55) joined ##slackware. [11:17] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [11:19] hi, i recently changed my NIC now whenever i reboot i have to re-enter the ip details. What's going on here? [11:19] It's most likely getting assigned eth1 or eth2 [11:19] before i did the whole "ifconfig eth0 192 blah blah and it remained persistent after reboot [11:19] Clear your udev rule that deals with persistent net and rebooy [11:19] reboot^ [11:20] it's now eth1. I don't know why but that shou;dn't make a difference should it? [11:20] Yes [11:20] The init scripts will try to set things to nonexistent eth0 [11:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:20] If you clear the udev rules and reboot, it'll be fixed [11:22] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.248) left irc: "Leaving" [11:22] thanks [11:23] [11:32] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [11:32] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "testing robot" [11:34] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [11:34] tewmten: you about mate? [11:35] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:36] arbys arbys arbys oh boyyy [11:36] rebooting now, brb [11:36] arbys yum [11:36] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.172) joined ##slackware. [11:36] me_ (n=me_@89.240.53.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:36] hes getting me a roast burger! [11:36] umnum [11:38] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:39] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:40] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] straterra, we won't have our wedding rings till maybe next week so for the ceramony, we're getting 25cent rings from those machines [11:42] lol..nice [11:42] me_ (n=me_@89.240.53.55) joined ##slackware. [11:42] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [11:43] i got called a hillbilly because his ring was only 80bucks [11:43] 70%off [11:43] mine was 599, and is 140 on sale [11:44] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.64.95) joined ##slackware. [11:44] not my fault jewlery places are going out of buisness [11:44] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [11:45] monstro (i=monstro@201-92-54-216.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:46] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:47] straterra, worked a charm, thanks [11:48] give the difference to me nix_chix0r then you will be aquited of your hillbillyism [11:48] nawww [11:48] that difference goes to diapers now [11:49] no one needs diapers [11:51] monstro (i=monstro@201-92-54-216.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] nix_chix0r: diapers.......shudder.....glad my diaper changing days are long gone. I've got a 6 year old and a 14 year old. I did the environmental cloth diaper thing with my first born. Went to pampers on baby #2. [11:51] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:52] yeah screw cloth diapers i don't feel like spending the bulk of my day scraping poop out of em. pampers all the way [11:52] yeah [11:52] it is a pain to wash cloth diapers [11:52] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) got netsplit. [11:54] there is a cloth diapering service here 80bucks a month they come out take the dirty and give you clean. but it's 300bucks to start the program and i think the disposables are cheaper andjust more practical in the long run:P [11:54] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.78.47.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:54] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] if only he'd stop crapping on me [11:54] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [11:56] me_ (n=me_@89.240.53.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:57] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] saving the environment has no price, IMO [11:57] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [11:58] all those diapers are going directly to the landfill [11:58] yeah....after you do a cost analysis of cloth vs. diapers it comes out pretty close for both when you factor in the cost for hot water, laundry soap. Pampers is the way to go. Heh-heh, flying baby shit......remember it well:) [11:58] sure, it uses soap. [11:58] thumbs: true [11:59] however, some soap is less harmful to the environment. [11:59] there are many types of soap [11:59] exactly [11:59] and there are soaps made by olive oil so its completely harmless [11:59] soap from the fat of rich fat fucks is the best [12:00] but when you're an older parent like I was with my first born you do look for ways to make it easier. I care deeply about the environment and recycle with a passion and we use environmentally friendly cleaning products. [12:00] but, we dont talk about project mayhem [12:00] aside from the obvious hassle of having to wash the cloth diapers by hand, it's a much more practical solution [12:01] yes, it might be easier on you - but will weight terribly with those landfills, and your children's future. [12:01] definitely [12:02] I did do cloth for the first one.....pampers for baby 2. Raising a child is exhausting. Do you have young children, thumb? [12:02] LakesProse (i=4a3a0688@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fe9333fc567e261) joined ##slackware. [12:02] yht (n=yht@114.121.81.247) joined ##slackware. [12:02] I should not be using this drive should I : http://pastebin.com/m657eafc0 ? [12:02] not yet. [12:02] okay [12:03] hitest: yes, I know, I lack experience. But I have high ideals. [12:04] hitest: i guess They look down on spraying the kid off with a hose in the back yard for a bath too, dont they? =) [12:04] You are right though that cloth diapers are more environmentally friendly. I just couldn't cope with the fatigue when having baby number 2 at 46 years of age. [12:05] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02D58.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] scubacuda (n=rog@71-6-2-163.static-ip.telepacific.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:06] acidkill: whats wrong with that? [12:07] besides DCF taking the kid and spending time in jail....nothing [12:07] heh [12:08] nah car washers are better [12:08] meh [12:08] lmao [12:09] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [12:10] aperturefever: thats why the pickup was invented [12:10] put the kids in the back and go through the super wash [12:10] car wax too? [12:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-152-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:10] keeps their hair styled [12:10] heh [12:10] shiny looks [12:10] wax on sunday for church [12:13] the poopy smell though is worse tha mustard gas.. save vs breath vs reflexes vs wisdom vs death [12:14] acidkill: If anyone asks, it's just play time, not bath time. [12:14] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] anyone wanna give me a job? =P [12:15] phrag: Sure, but I can only pay in coffee. [12:15] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:18] FriedBob: i tried that one before, almost got me 25yrs... I swear she was atleast 11 [12:18] phrag: I thought you worked for IBM? [12:18] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-167-117-13.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:19] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.170.191) left irc: "rah" [12:22] Dominian: nah mate, i did on placement for over a year, then had to go back and finish my studies... IBM not taking many grads this year [12:22] anyone good at sql? [12:22] that sucks [12:23] open a kabbab place =) [12:23] SELECT DISTINCT INET_NTOA(ip_src) FROM snort.iphdr; ...i want to parse one row at a time... anyone know how to do this ? [12:27] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] LIMIT 1 [12:27] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] i know someone who's hiring. you any good at slinging rock? [12:27] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:28] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "bai" [12:29] caneca (i=1000@189.111.23.41) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Hi all, [12:29] caneca: all is not in today [12:29] grazymax (n=grazymax@host152-54-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:30] the slackware 12.2 support the NIC nvidia mcp61 ? [12:30] does the kernels upport that? [12:31] If the kernel supports it.. Slackware does. [12:31] What module I use? [12:32] what module is need ? [12:33] I have no idea [12:33] google would know [12:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:33] kernel.org would know [12:34] Wow look at that.. [12:34] I googled for "linux kernel nvidia mcp61" [12:34] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [12:34] and what did I found.. oh yes.. its included in the kernel [12:34] 2secs [12:34] first hit [12:35] jak2000 (n=ja@189.231.108.139) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Dominian, okay [12:35] hi allm if i put on /etc/mail/aliases this line: albinopinon : albert1232@hotmail.com if i send a email to albinopinon@mydomain.com i want redirect to albert1232@hotmail.com Tested and not worked, need restart a deamon? (i use sendmail) [12:36] jak2000: run 'newaliases' command [12:37] Dominian, the module correct is the forcedeth? [12:37] hi. . I installed the flashplayer package from slackbuilds.org, and the libflashplayer.so file is present in correct location .. but about:plugins doesn't show flash player ... I have noscript and greasemonkey installed [12:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] did you re-start your browser? [12:38] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:38] caneca (i=1000@189.111.23.41) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] yes [12:39] pkill -9 firefox infact .. [12:39] shouldn't there be a xpi file in the mozilla components directory in the package ? [12:40] I read that in teh mozilla plugin doc [12:40] you installed the flashinstall.tgz package in /tmp after running the slackbuild script? [12:41] yes [12:41] cat /var/log/packages/ says its a package called flash-plugin- 10.0 r22 [12:42] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] look in firefox options, is that plugin path part of were firefox is looking? [12:42] yeah, that's what I use on FF 3.0.8 and Opera 9.64 [12:43] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:43] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) joined ##slackware. [12:44] i ate two roast burgers from arbys and their potato bites [12:44] o0 [12:44] where do I see that ? [12:45] about:config , searching for plugins doesn't show anything useful [12:46] nix_chix0r: awesome......now you've done it.....gonna go get some more food:) [12:46] bbl [12:46] hehe [12:46] :) [12:46] nix_chix0r: ate that and survived? [12:46] you are one lucky gal! [12:47] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.172) left irc: "later" [12:47] my metabolism lately has been through the roof [12:47] "I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!" -- Bart Simpson [12:47] does apache parse css my default ? [12:47] If it isn't by one of the simpsons, it isn't worth quoting... [12:47] phrag: by css you mean a client-side interpreted cascading stylesheet? [12:47] YEAH [12:47] sorry for caps [12:48] heh [12:48] ITS OK [12:48] hehe [12:48] :) [12:48] I read that as "yes" with gusto! [12:48] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] CAPS RULE:o [12:48] bloody keyboard [12:48] like WOOOO!!! SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT I WANT!!! YEAAAH!! [12:48] Dominian, thanks [12:48] np [12:48] after all that food i could really go for a camel [12:48] yeah, was wondering if slack default apache parses CSS with default configuration/modules... can't see anything in httpd.conf [12:48] kill myself some more [12:48] brb [12:49] phrag: In response to your q, the css files are sent to the client, whose browser interprets/parses [12:49] afaik, apache is dumb to css, just treats it as plain text [12:49] with /etc/mail/aliases send the email to other email in my case: albinopinon : albert1232@hotmail.com but move, i need a copy in the albinopinon box, how to? [12:49] ah ok... i know what's happened then, i didn't export the 'images' needed to parse correctly [12:49] eviljames: thanks man =) [12:50] phrag: np. [12:51] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000108.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] can sftp grab directories ? [12:51] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [12:52] phrag: mget [12:52] phrag: err, in sftp that is. mget directory/ *iirc* works. Otherwise cd to the dir lcd to a download location and mget * [12:52] hmm, didn't like that [12:52] better to use rsync anyway [12:52] aha, mget * worked a treat [12:52] rsync + ssh ftw [12:53] thanks dude =) [12:53] hah [12:53] helpful troll is helpful [12:53] sometimes [12:53] ;) [12:53] Dominian: ++ [12:53] heh [12:57] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:58] ALVAN (n=galaxy@mail.fabricaonline.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:58] Nick change: ALVAN -> Guest78349 [12:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Guest78349 (n=galaxy@mail.fabricaonline.ro) left irc: Client Quit [12:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [13:00] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:02] Draenei (n=Draenei@adsl-68-77-200-149.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.77) joined ##slackware. [13:03] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Dominian any advice? [13:08] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-168.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:09] jak2000: Well, did you run newaliases [13:09] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [13:10] yes runned [13:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [13:11] but move the email to other box, how get a copy in the original box? [13:12] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Sera a tutti [13:13] jak2000: I don't use sendmail.. /join #sendmail [13:14] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:14] valvola (n=fabiovio@host158-255-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Dominian thanks [13:16] sorry for off topic, but to execute an external php file from a html page, do i need ServerSide Includes enabled? calling it from within the html with doesn't seem to execute it [13:16] phrag: yes, ssi [13:16] "but i'm at a hot spot and my WHY FYYY says it's a hotspot" <---wtf [13:17] some people should not be allowed to own computers [13:17] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-168.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:18] "oh you don't need to setup the my laptop, it came with wifi installed" [13:18] nullboy: heh-heh:) [13:18] which translates to this for me "please shoot me now" [13:18] LakesProse (i=4a3a0688@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5fe9333fc567e261) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:18] thumbs: in that case, can i only do that by renaming the .html to .html and configuring apache with AddType text/html .shtml ? [13:19] phrag: that is another possiblity [13:19] phrag: have php parse all .html files. [13:19] AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php .html [13:19] ah cool, thanks thumbs, i'll try that out [13:20] phrag : what's stopping you from simply renaming the file to .php in the first place? you can have straight html in those [13:20] hmm, and just echo the html code from within the php ? [13:20] nope. [13:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:21] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:21] you can have inline code. [13:21] phrag : no, just close the php tag, and write straight html. then you can reopen it again [13:21] surrounded by simpe html, that is [13:21] however, if renaming the .html files is not a solution, the Addhandler line will work [13:22] SiegeX, something something yet some more html

whatever

[13:22] uhmm, 'for eg:' was translated into 'SiegeX'? :) [13:22] ah i see, thansk ananke... i'll try both methods and see what's best [13:23] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:23] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:23] phrag: when you use a framework where the file names cannot be altered, you must resort to the lesser 'AddHandler' solution. Renaming the files is the cleanest way. [13:23] phrag : my method is a bit more common than yours :) [13:23] Action: fred returns to writing webapps in C++ :D [13:24] firebird719 (n=firebird@173-18-56-103.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:24] ananke: I deal with fixed frameworks and file names on a common basis, and must find workarounds like that constantly. [13:25] ananke: if i place the php within the .html, it's not executing it, simply outputting the code as text... what am i missing ?> [13:25] .php [13:25] lies! [13:25] heh [13:25] it's working, you legends 8oD [13:26] thankyou thumbs and ananke... life savers [13:26] look at /etc/httpd/mod-php.conf [13:26] giuppy (n=giuppy@host12-164-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:26] the problem is that the slackware config uses AddType to enable mod_php, which is wrong. [13:26] it's ok, in my day job i tend to fix things for 'developers' all the time :) [13:28] ananke: then you have to deal with hardcoded links on the site to the .html, and the devs can't be bothered to edit the code. [13:28] no, turns out i wasn't checking it on apache, i was just navigating to the local directory and viewign the html with browser [13:28] phrag: heh, file:// ? [13:28] phrag: lul [13:28] insertign the php code inline and viewing it over apache is just what i want [13:28] phrag: try http:// [13:28] thumbs: hehe, yeah, gets confusing with many terminals and files floating about [13:29] full jug of coffee is helpting though lol [13:30] thumbs: what should it use? [13:30] rworkman: AddHandler, as I stated before. [13:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] Oh, I didn't see that part. [13:30] rworkman: note that php.net is wrong by recommending AddType too. [13:30] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [13:30] firebird719 (n=firebird@173-18-56-103.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [13:31] thumbs: can you mail a summary of that to me? [13:31] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:31] rworkman: the reason is that AddHandler tells the SERVER to parse .php files, and AddType SUGGESTS to the client that he may parse them [13:31] rworkman: sure [13:31] thanks [13:31] rworkman: so if the client decides to say no, he sees the whole php source code. [13:31] ah [13:31] I also have several articles on that subject [13:31] Definitely mention that last bit about the client. [13:32] will do. [13:32] fyi, i added the AddHandler funcion in httpd.conf (as thumbs suggested) and added my php code inline the .html (as ananke suggested) [13:32] guest (i=0@189.111.20.77) joined ##slackware. [13:32] phrag: you need to remove the existing AddType, if you had it. [13:32] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] anyone can help-me? [13:33] phrag: or simply clear your browser cache, too. [13:33] phrag: as your browser cache can override the server behaviour. [13:33] guest: I can certainly advise not to irc as root... [13:34] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] I'm having problems with network card... [13:35] anyone can see: eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok [13:35] SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not supported [13:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:35] What would it? [13:36] I run mii-tool only... [13:39] guest, try ethtool eth1 [13:39] ALVAN, yeah [13:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] does irssi has a search function? [13:40] ALVAN, http://pastebin.com/m331cc4ac [13:40] rworkman: hey got your ears on? [13:40] ALVAN, this sure? [13:41] rworkman: I'm trying to copy your work from hplip package in --current for my hybrid slackware here, you're not making this easy on me :) Just kidding. But seriously, are the hp officejet driver's missing for a reason? They're not in my package I made or in --current, and I dont see any mention at hp site about them being split out. Any eye-dears? [13:42] ALVAN, the mii-tool why no support it ? [13:42] Link detected: no .. you dont have no cable in ..or the other end of the cable is plugged into a poweroff device [13:43] jak2000 (n=ja@189.231.108.139) left ##slackware. [13:43] guest, mii-tool does not work with 1Gbs ethernet links [13:43] uhm... [13:43] ALVAN, thanks! [13:44] guest (i=0@189.111.20.77) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] Old_Fogie: you need cupsddk. Many of the ppd files are now dynamically generated as needed by cups [13:46] rworkman: hmmm, like run the cups gen ppd script in pkgtool? or some other package? [13:46] chakahn (n=chakahn@197.sub-166-143-61.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:46] No, you don't need to do anything special. [13:47] As long as you have cupsddk installed, the ppd should be created by cups when it's needed. [13:47] Does anyone here have any experience with computer forensics? [13:47] yes [13:48] do you use slackware for that? [13:48] yes [13:48] is it personal perferenc or is there a reason? [13:48] valvola (n=fabiovio@host158-255-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [13:49] cupsddk ? where is that [13:49] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [13:49] I saw a speaker at an event that was touting Slackware as a forensic sysetm. but the reasons were somewhat esoteric. "it's clean" "it's vanilla" I'm looking for more information [13:50] rworkman: oh it's in 'a' in --current, but not for 12.1 . ok so I gotta build that then. [13:50] nullboy: is it becuase you just prefer slackware, or do you have specific reasons? [13:51] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [13:51] rworkman: well I was thinking of grabbing his cups from --current to so I'll do that all at once then ok thanks [13:53] chakahn: this reallt seems like flame bait to be honest. doesn't everyone just use what they like? [13:53] why use something you don't like if you have a choice? [13:54] Flame bait? I hpe not. I'm having a discussion with others in my class and everyone likes fedora or debian. I heard thomas rude talk about useing slackware so I was curious. not meant to be flamebait [13:55] well he said it best: he likes it because it's simple, clean. [13:55] chakahn: the speaker's point was that it's really easy to rip slack open, cut it up, do you what you want, build on it, etc and customize it very easily [13:56] i dont't think he said simple...the opposite actaully. but he did say it's not far from "base linux". [13:58] I played areound with a couple of linuxes (?) and I like slackware, I was just wondering if others feel like he does. He's a bright guy but being new at linux, it's hard to ask the right questions [13:58] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:59] any screen gurus here? how can i pass a ctrl-a instead of having screen intercept it? is there a one-off way? [13:59] dind't mean to come across as trolling - just looking for something like "i use it for data recovery becuase a) b) c) - more than just "i like it". Like everyone else does iwth fedora [14:00] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Floops (n=baihu@floops.info) joined ##slackware. [14:00] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] chakahn: have you seen Barry Grundy's linuxleo document? [14:01] have you seen thomas rudes site? he's one fo the few using linux for data forensics (mainstream: htcia) [14:01] rworkman - no? [14:01] I haven't seen Thomas' site :) [14:01] looking it up.... [14:01] chakahn: http://linuxleo.org/ <-- it's more introductory though [14:01] chakahn, "it's clean" "it's vanilla" also means that the packages code is clean is not patched to work in some way like Redhat or Ubuntu is doing .. almost all the packages are exact as developers made it with no patches [14:02] chakahn: regardless of application/purpose, anyone's preference of distribution is largely subjective. There are good reasons to use most of them. That being siad... [14:02] www.crazytrain.com - he's been around forever. [14:03] linuxleo! I've not seen this. [14:03] it has slackware links [14:03] Barry talks about some of his reasons for choosing Slackware in that doc. [14:04] "robby workman's pages" I take it that is rworkman ? [14:04] yep :) [14:04] okay. that will help. [14:04] OHHH. Now I know who Thomas is. [14:04] ?? do tell. [14:04] he goes by farmerdude. [14:05] Right. :) [14:05] He seems like a good guy; participates on at least one forensics mail list that I'm on. [14:05] smart, but hard to understand. [14:05] I had no idea that he was also a Slackware guy. [14:06] His farmerboot cd is slackware based. and he talks about slackware in his classes. [14:06] Cool. I didn't realize his livecd was based on Slackware either. Damn, I'm out of the loop. I'll have to get in touch with him. [14:07] I never bought the cd. I was told he's real bad at updating. not for the os, but for the forensic software on there. [14:08] A true Slacker. :) If what's on there still works properly, there might be no good reason to update it. [14:09] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:09] We've got a few forensics things available at SlackBuilds.org (dc3dd, others), and I've got smart-mount at http://slackware.com/~rworkman/smart-mount/ [14:09] but that's not the case with some of the forensic stuff. there were fixes for stuff that never got udpated. sleuthkit for example. that's why so many people use helix. it's free and always updated. [14:09] That's a fair point. [14:10] Oh! the linuxleo doc is great! I wish I had see this before! [14:10] :) [14:10] SpacePlod: ^ :) [14:10] ? [14:11] Barry = SpacePlod [14:11] is this the guy from NASA? [14:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:11] he's here? [14:11] He was at NASA. I don't know if I'm at liberty to divulge his current employer, so I won't. [14:12] I need to come here more often. [14:12] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@81.18.126.35) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Indeed. :) [14:12] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] one of my classmates knows him from a class he taught in the uk [14:13] Well, I've gotta run out for a while. Good luck with learning Slackware, and definitely hang around. :) [14:13] What will next release, 12.3 or 13.0? [14:13] no idea [14:13] thanks rworkman big help! [14:15] 12.34567890 [14:16] What is better, online upgrade of offline one? I have 12.1 installed and 12.2 on DVD [14:16] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [14:16] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03552.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [14:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Necrosporus, depends entirely on your requiremnents [14:22] what do you mean by offline upgrade though? do you mean using a chroot to upgrade? [14:23] runlevel 1 is usually the fastest bet [14:23] even computer is off? [14:23] ? [14:24] if the system is turned off how do you plan to upgrade it? [14:24] Computer is offline, I can boot it with DVD or from HD [14:24] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [14:24] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) joined ##slackware. [14:24] so a chroot then? [14:24] What is safer? [14:25] nothing is less safe [14:25] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:25] nullboy, may be just installpkg -root /mnt/system [14:25] I persoanlly normally just nuke / and do a clean install, ubt I have /home on it's own partition or drive. [14:25] it's as safe are you are capable of doing it [14:25] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] Necos: if this is an upgrade installpkg is not the place to start [14:26] you would installpkg only new added packages [14:26] FriedBob, I don't want configure my system again [14:26] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03552.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] Read UPGRADE.txt I think it is. :) [14:26] * updatepkg [14:26] Necos: follow the documentation in the media [14:26] like i said, read UPGRADE.txt [14:26] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03552.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] chakahn (n=chakahn@197.sub-166-143-61.myvzw.com) left irc: "leaving" [14:27] nullboy: wrong nick ;) [14:27] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] crap [14:27] I read. There live upgrade is described [14:28] othermindszine (n=othermin@216.sub-75-216-64.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] there's a reason why it's in caps =P [14:29] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-198254.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "quit" [14:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [14:30] I think it is because offline upgrade is simplier [14:30] so do whatever you want then [14:30] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [14:30] it's your system. we suggest you follow UPGRADE.txt so if you break it your way don't expect much sympathy [14:31] phrag: So people don't read? ;) [14:32] nullboy, I vant experiment with othere copy first [14:33] mv readme.txt topsecret.txt [14:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:34] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:34] phrag: mv UPGRADE.txt uber_secret_meaning_of_life_DO_NOT_READ.txt [14:34] hehe [14:37] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host164-74-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [14:38] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [14:38] cat uber_secret_meaning_of_life_DO_NOT_READ.txt | rot13 | rot13 [14:40] i have to go do a really lame service call [14:40] Aizawa (n=Aizawa@1-1-6-35a.f.sth.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. 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[14:44] Action: phrag hands FriedBob a revolver [14:44] witz_ (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Does someone here have a asus P5Q-E motherboard, and can boot from usb? [14:45] I have the removable device on the top of my "boot list", but it wont boot [14:45] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host164-74-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:45] nullboy: We've had a few service calls today. Thankfully I'mnot back on call till Monday. [14:46] Aizawa:What are you trying to boot? [14:46] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] nullboy: \o/ [14:47] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" 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[16:00] doesn't work for me [16:00] CaptObviousman: ping, router death at 16 [16:00] at 16 what [16:00] slackadelic same way [16:00] hops [16:00] NaCl: hey mate [16:00] Action: drijen goes back to hw [16:01] my mtr all the way is just peachy [16:01] Action: CaptObviousman hmms [16:01] slackadelic is up [16:01] cause uhh I'm on slackadelic [16:01] i never said otherwise [16:01] so defensive :p [16:01] hehe [16:01] Action: drijen gives Dominian a cookie [16:01] aha, cogent [16:01] those cockballs [16:01] Action: drijen sings "figures" [16:02] well, does anyone have a recent vbox slackbuild? [16:02] I can hit slackbuilds.org from slackadelic [16:02] i belive i may still ahve my packages, CaptObviousman [16:02] However, I can't hit the web server [16:02] so it appears the server is up.. but httpd is down [16:02] Yeah. [16:03] is my guess as well [16:03] god, i just sneezed and my cough drop flew out and hit my monitor :( [16:03] ewwwww [16:03] hahaha [16:03] youtube-it [16:03] ;) [16:03] apparently sneezing accelerated it hard, made a mark [16:03] thankfully it didn't hit the screen itself [16:03] LCD? [16:03] yeah [16:03] heh [16:04] 24" [16:04] nice [16:04] i luvs it [16:04] CaptObviousman: i still have my compiled sbo packages in /tmp would you like copies? [16:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:05] they are compiled dirty though, just fyi [16:05] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] hey all got a question [16:05] im out of answers [16:05] can i burn a dvd to the using the cli ? [16:06] dd isn't working [16:06] macman_: yes [16:06] yep [16:06] macman_: dvd+rw-tools [16:06] growisofs [16:06] macman% dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/macman/Desktop/bolt.iso [16:06] dd: reading `/dev/dvd': Input/output error [16:06] wait [16:06] You want to copy a dvd to an iso? [16:06] oh you want to strip a dvd [16:06] good luck using dd [16:06] yea [16:06] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:06] macman_: dd cannot read through encryption [16:06] You want something that can decrypt the DVD first [16:06] macman_: lsdvd and vobcopy will do [16:06] ok [16:06] also, k3b, ffmpeg, and a dozen others can too [16:07] I normally use dvdbackup from command line to rip the DVD.. then do DVD SHrink to shrink the dvd to iso [16:07] what does dvd+rw tools do ? [16:07] macman_: burns [16:07] I ripped slackware DVD to iso with dd [16:07] Necrosporus: its not encrypted either [16:07] Necrosporus: slackware does not have drm silly [16:07] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:07] macman_: next time you want to pirate something, just say so [16:07] so what program should i use ? [16:07] I know [16:07] haha [16:07] drijen--- never had this problem [16:07] macman_, what do you want? [16:07] macman_: a /. topic was done on this earlier [16:07] k9copy rocks [16:08] i just want to simply extract a dvd to an iso .. then shrink it and put it on a blank dvd [16:08] Try k3b [16:09] i tried [16:09] no good [16:09] macman_: k9copy will do it [16:09] you didn't compile it yourself [16:09] Anyone in the channel tried installing slackware-current from scratch (using huge kernel and the installer) yet? Anyone experiencing a kernel crash after "Detecting Adapted I2O RAID" ? [16:09] k3b needs ffmepg and some other shit [16:09] alienBOB: o/ [16:09] Necrosporus (n=Xenius@81.18.126.35) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:09] alienBOB: I got the netinstall working fine last night [16:09] I saw :-) [16:10] alienBOB: side note, do you compile vlc with -xserver? [16:10] I am testing -current on my trusty old computer but the kernel crashes on me [16:10] i just installed dvdbackup [16:10] drijen: look it up, I do not know [16:10] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Action: drijen chunks a cheezit at alienBOB's head [16:10] Action: drijen bows before Old_Fogie [16:10] helloooo :) [16:10] alienBOB: btw: the box I am using is a P4 from 2003, if that makes a difference [16:11] Dominian--- any good commands for dvdbackup [16:11] sorenp (n=Soren@83.191.131.91) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] macman_: hang on [16:11] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.7.104) joined ##slackware. [16:11] macman_: want some fries with that? [16:11] hey rworkman, I forgot to tell you, the new 0.8.2 is *definitely* a worthwhile compiz upgrade. that new 'depend' they threw in really does speed up apps [16:11] macman_: I usually cd into the directory I want the files to go and do: dvdbackup -i /dev/hdd -M -o . [16:12] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] but I'm sure there are easier ways than how I go about things [16:13] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] lol it has encryption [16:13] Error reading TITLE VOB at block 655 [16:13] padding 369 blocks [16:14] if you're using dvdbackup.. [16:14] do you have libdvdcss installed? [16:14] do you have...... [16:14] yes [16:14] if not.. hit slackbuilds.org and get that [16:14] yeah what he saod [16:14] you will also need libdvdread [16:14] Ok.. it appears that's a Disney DVD? [16:14] i have all that [16:14] Bolt right? [16:14] hehe [16:14] DIsney DVDs are a bitch to copy [16:14] yea my kids like bolt [16:14] it also helps if you don't store your DVDs in a box of gravel without the cases on... [16:14] haha [16:14] There are "ways' to make it work.. [16:15] macman_: grab handbrake - handbrake -t 0 [16:15] but something I don't go through [16:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] handbrake.. that's what I was thinking of [16:15] {`} (n=user@c-76-121-6-130.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] drijen--- i tried handbrake the gui part .. it was fine .. turns out it only burned like half the movie [16:15] macman_: i had an anime the other day that flat refused to copy - handbrake owned it like cockroaches own nukes [16:15] lol [16:15] {`} (n=user@c-76-121-6-130.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [16:16] drijen--- did you installt he gui or the binary of handbrake ? [16:16] who needs a gui? [16:16] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [16:16] yea .. thats what im trying to get a way from [16:16] real men copy dvd's on paper [16:16] I usually use dvdbackup then use DVD Shrink in Wine.. then burn the iso ;P [16:17] alienBOB: you do [16:17] alienBOB: i believ that is what is making vlc so irritatingly unusable - i'll pull it and get back to you [16:18] Why is it irritatingly unusable to you? [16:18] alienBOB: when vlc opens it has the main gui window, then a side window witht he actual movie [16:18] Yes [16:18] That is intentional [16:18] wtf? [16:18] It tries getting around a Qt bug [16:18] xine does it too [16:19] does debian run the vlc project? [16:19] I used to patch that out in previous builds but I had several crashes as a result [16:19] The fix is in 1.0.0-git though [16:19] oh well good [16:19] But the patch is in my vlc/build directory [16:19] problem solved, drijen has been educated [16:19] vlc performance is not exactly fun with isos or video_ts folders :( [16:19] Action: drijen thanks alienBOB [16:20] mplayer has caught up to vlc anyway [16:20] Dominian--- how di know if it isn't working .. it has'n't stopped yet [16:20] macman_: smoke if you got em [16:21] lol [16:21] macman_: if it hasn't sopped.. let it go [16:21] that bad drijen ? [16:21] you'll know cause if it fails any part of it.. dvdbackup quits [16:21] it is i see the other vobs coming [16:21] macman_: you can also check top/ps/lsof etc [16:21] yea its going [16:21] awesome [16:21] macman_: we accept VISA/Mastercard, Paypal, beer, hookers, and cookies [16:22] lsof |grep dvdbackup ? [16:22] and virgins... don't forget the virgins [16:22] nah, i want someone experienced [16:22] forgot [16:22] damn, audio is borked in vlc when playing back dvds... [16:22] what do you guys use for shrinking a dvd-9 ? dvd-shrink for wine ? [16:23] k9copy [16:23] k9copy will work [16:23] in fact I need to work on getting k9copy working on slamd64 [16:23] last time i used k9copy i thought i had the right titleset .. turns out to be only 1 part of the dvd [16:23] or dvd95 (but i don't feel like compiling all of gnome to use it) [16:24] Dominian: I was just about to try the SBo k9copy on slamd64 [16:24] no worky? [16:24] Urchlay: sure it will, justnot 64bit [16:24] Urchlay: I haven't tried it yet [16:25] tell you what.. [16:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] the new xz package supports .7z files? [16:25] give me a few minutes.. if I can get them.. and I'll port the slackbuild [16:25] dvd95 - DVD9 to DVD5 converter [16:25] nice [16:25] IIRC, last time I tried to use it, dvdauthor didn't work right when compiled 64-bit (made invalid isos) [16:25] hmmmm [16:25] k9copy uses dvdauthor, so that still might not be fixed... [16:26] main audio output error: couldn't set an input pipeline <--- vlc [16:26] Urchlay: bah. hehe [16:26] Urchlay: You would have to monkey wrench it [16:28] well I won't cry if I have to build it 32-bit [16:29] wow, damn... [16:29] both vlc and mplayer can't play this disc lol [16:29] shadowsun (n=root@ip70-162-83-190.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] jeepster (n=jeepster@static-87-102-68-72.karoo.KCOM.COM) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:30] Necos: thats pretty messed up, what disc [16:30] shadowsun (n=root@ip70-162-83-190.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:30] i just ripped Hero (Jet Li) so i could take my discs back home [16:30] such a gorgeous movie [16:31] dvdbackup -v -M >> k9copy >> k3b >> vlc / mplayer [16:31] Necos: which is that, the one where he's a time traveller and fights his evil self from another dimension? [16:31] ... [16:31] Necos--- that isn't a command is it ? [16:31] Urchlay: no its about the Qin assasin [16:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] no, the order of processing [16:31] Urchlay: Yah.. won't have time to do anything with that right now [16:31] Necos: thats too much, just handbrake it [16:31] too many depends hehe [16:31] Qin ruler that was trying to unite China [16:32] i wanna watch it at my mom's on her dvd player [16:32] Dominian: no biggie. I've got a couple hours before anything important happens, might as well mess with it [16:32] rawr oh :( [16:32] i'm gonna go visit her this weekend, so i figured i'd have something for her to watch lol [16:32] dvdauthor 0.6.14 at least compiles on 64-bit, fwiw [16:33] tons of warnings though [16:33] getting a demuxer err when using mplayer [16:34] Draenei (n=Draenei@adsl-68-77-200-149.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:34] and when using vlc [16:34] [00000513] main audio output error: couldn't set an input pipeline [16:34] when using vlc [16:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [16:35] im assuming .. Dominian or Necos wants this dvd folder is on my hd i can just use dvd95 to make it into a 4 gig folder and then burn it to a dvd [16:36] or use k3b to make it into a iso and then burn the image to dvd [16:36] Urchlay: if you suscceed.. let us know.. we can add it to the repo ;) [16:36] i use k9copy, but the result is the same... i like to make it to an iso [16:36] Necos--- i would normally use k9copy .. i used it and the whole title thing messed me up [16:36] actually I didn't even know there was a 64-bit repo until a couple days ago (builds.slamd64.com) [16:37] I've been contributing SBo packages which I originally develop on slamd64, then make sure they work on 32-bit slack... and someone else has been "porting" them back to 64-bit :) [16:38] but yeah, you can make it to an iso and burn with k3b or whatever macman_ [16:38] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.1.152) joined ##slackware. [16:38] if not [16:39] when i used k9copy .. how did you know aht titleset to use .. all the titlesets i looked at where all big [16:39] alienBOB: in the slackbuild for 0.9.8,, are you using any shared libs? i thought you compiled the libs statically and then linked them in... [16:39] macman_: just select the entire dvd [16:40] Necos: static build (and it is at 0.9.9 now) [16:40] you just updated? >.<; [16:40] Panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Necos: last week [16:41] But I am not completely happy with this 0.9.9 and will probably soon try to build a 1.0.0-git package and keep following that for a while [16:42] i see [16:42] gonna see if my problems disappear with the new build... [16:42] i need to rebuild mplayer at somepoint [16:43] have they even hit 1.0 yet? [16:43] Who, vlc? [16:43] mplayer [16:43] No, they are progressing toward 1.0.0 [16:43] MPlayer is not at 1.0 yet [16:44] at least they updated libdvdnav >.> [16:44] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:44] argh [16:44] Action: fred remembers how much fun poking pango is on multilib :( [16:44] erm.. wrong channel :| [16:44] lol [16:45] lol [16:45] it's ok fred, we will still noobfarm it [16:46] Action: CaptObviousman debates the merits of compiling .29 and having to fix all his vbox stuff as well [16:47] CaptObviousman: took a week for the vmware community to figure out a patch for it [16:47] .29 [16:47] great [16:47] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [16:47] [tessai@tessai:~ #]> uname -a [16:47] Linux tessai 2.6.29-smp #1 SMP Mon Mar 30 12:52:23 PDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:47] well, I stubbornly stayed on .27.4 because I didn't want to have to fix all my shit before [16:47] and I didn't need anything in .28 [16:48] hehehe [16:48] guys im used to the gui .. what term command can i use to open a png ? [16:48] i use xv [16:48] vi? [16:49] Action: CaptObviousman decides yet again to delay it [16:49] also, the guest additions script doesn't work [16:49] but I think that's because I'm still using 2.0.0 [16:49] alienBOB--- why would you open a png in vi ? [16:50] I would never.... but you might like it [16:50] rotfl [16:50] Try flipping some bits and see what happens. :P [16:50] anyone using the enlightment wm ? [16:50] Using aaxine would also give a nice effect - it _will_ show your .png in the terminal [16:51] Just try it, seriously, it will not harm PNG or computer. Hurt your eyes perhaps [16:51] Action: CaptObviousman wonders if he has aaxine [16:52] CaptObviousman: my guest addons script, or the generic one? [16:52] pprkut: generic. SBo was down earlier when I tried to fetch the latest scripts [16:52] so I was just blindly forging ahead [16:52] I see :) [16:52] well, since you're here [16:53] x11 modules were installed, kernel modules compiled and installed [16:53] but it also requires a custom device doesn't it? [16:53] becuase I don't think udev did that [16:54] you need a udev rule [16:54] ampsix (i=moneybag@has.no.info.tm) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] I don't know if the installer does that automatically or not [16:55] Camarade_TuxII (n=camarade@ims92-2-88-164-14-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Camarade_Tux, son just joined [16:56] do you know what this install_x11_startup_app is actually trying to do? I'm not up on my x11ness [16:56] DeeeeP =) [16:56] :) [16:56] Action: Camarade_TuxII is squatting a friend's computer [16:57] anyone know about squashfs ? [16:57] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.133.170) joined ##slackware. [16:58] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [16:58] CaptObviousman: hmm, it might be about VBoxClient or VBoxControl [16:58] before I leave, I have one question : does it sound possible to put slackware on a 4GB drive ? it's for a friend and _she_ probably won't do devel but I can't let her use ubuntu [16:58] (she wants a dell mini 9) [16:58] Camarade_TuxII, what is the definition of squatting ? [16:58] why won't it be ? [16:59] a non full install can easily be < 4GB [16:59] if you want > 4GB .. look into SquashFS [16:59] as i remember , full slackware install would take 3.8 GB [16:59] or look at slax [17:00] what does those do? [17:00] I think it's ok : I was pretty annoyed because my / is clean but 7.5GB [17:00] ahh, nm [17:00] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] but it's 7.5GB because it has tons of compilers (mingw32, mingw64, ocaml) and they use > 2.5GB [17:00] question is [17:01] i want to compress a folder using squashfs . . anyone have any experience with this ? [17:01] squashfs isn't for compression I don't think... [17:01] I'll try at home and see if I can fit everything in that [17:01] Camarade_TuxII: my slack install is around 1.2GB [17:01] i could cut more, but im lazy [17:01] squashfs is for compression afaik [17:02] Camarade_Tux--- yea .. i can compress a folder right ? [17:02] Camarade_TuxII: just dont install stuff you know she wont use, you can fit it in to a four gig drive, since she does not compile anything leave out developers tools, same with server software since it is for what/>? desktop use? [17:02] yes .. but there should be better solutions than that .. [17:03] but I'll probably use it a bit too and I can't live without a compiler ;p [17:03] is tar.gz one of the best compressions ? [17:03] No [17:03] Hell no [17:03] hm. Any of those compressed filesystems smart enough to detect when a file is already compressed, and avoid trying to compress it? [17:03] that for me straterra ? [17:03] gzip isn't all that great [17:03] (plus if I need the .SlackBuilds...) [17:03] yes, it is [17:03] haha [17:03] whats good then .. im tar.gzing my whole external [17:03] Urchlay, sadly no [17:04] lzma? [17:04] macman_, compression and decompression are both very fast [17:04] bzip is better than gzip [17:04] i just want something that can compress very tight [17:04] so, you have to pay attention and not store tarballs, mp3s, jpegs, windows installers, etc. on it... not optimal [17:04] straterra--- i would use lzma but i can't google any thing that shows me some good commands [17:05] macman_: imho very good compression is achieved by 7zip [17:05] p7zip, available on sbo [17:05] duryodhan++ [17:05] Action: Camarade_TuxII will continue this discussion at home [17:06] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-24-59.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] hm. k9copy builds, apparently it's not going to actually work though [17:06] my kde 4.2.2 build failed on kdebase-workspace the second time :( [17:06] Urchlay: why would it avoid trying to compress it ? just that the compression wouldn't achieve anything .. and during the decompression I would imagine that if something is't compressed it gets decompressed faster [17:07] don't quote me on that though [17:07] and as most of these are read only fs ... I can't see what could be the problem [17:07] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [17:07] when trying to compress an already-compressed file, most (all?) algorithms are painfully slow [17:07] also, they generally make the file *bigger* [17:07] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:08] so say bolt is 4.3 ghz .iso [17:08] gb [17:08] i can't compress it any lower right ? [17:08] right [17:08] Camarade_TuxII (n=camarade@ims92-2-88-164-14-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Java user signed off" [17:08] do they ? I have never noticed that .. they make it bigger by adding a few headers sure ...but not really make it bigger [17:08] 4.3 is fine.. that'll burn just fine to iso [17:08] macman_: what did you use to decrypt it? [17:08] the extra headers .. well you are changing the fs .. thats a overhead you have to pay for [17:09] nothing .. Dominian im talking about folders now [17:09] and they might be slow .. thats my point .. its readonly .. compress once decompress many [17:09] im compressing everything in tar.gz .. i just wanted to know should i compress in another format rather then tar.gz [17:10] bzip2 smashes it down a little tighter (a little slower though) [17:10] KCrash: Application 'k9copy' crashing... [17:10] how... polite [17:10] I had a few tgz packages lying in my /tmp .. I tarred them up .. 17M .. gzipped the tar .. 16M .. [17:10] macman_: bzip2 , 7zip ... [17:11] depends on your use case [17:11] duryodhan--- tar cf - file | bzip2 > file.bz2 ? [17:11] the real problem might be this: HAL init failed [17:11] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.253) joined ##slackware. [17:11] tar jcf inputs output [17:12] the 'j' is for bzip2 [17:12] sheesh this move has hella vobs [17:12] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] zounds (n=zounds@213-67-241-119-no68.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] tar jfc foo.tar.bz2 [17:12] nooper: I thought it was the other way around ? [17:12] oh right >_< [17:13] what the hell does "DVD is not opened" mean? [17:13] what duryodhan_ said [17:13] I use tar cf [files] | bzip2 > out.tar.bz2 sometimes too [17:13] macman_: I don't think you need - [17:13] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl11-56-118.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:13] does it mean "program tried to open it, and failed", or does it mean "You haven't told me to open it yet"? [17:14] Ojg (n=Ojg@90-229-198-184-no150.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:16] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) joined ##slackware. [17:16] lummox (i=lummox@p508DD6BD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] OK, here it goes. It did mean "you have to click the 'open' button first" [17:16] argh... [17:17] well, there's nothing for it. Looks like I should go for it [17:17] Aizawa (n=Aizawa@1-1-6-35a.f.sth.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [17:17] that's kinda a lame UI thing... it could instead say "DVD is not open yet. Open now? [Yes] [No]" [17:18] lol [17:18] <_RadioHead> evening [17:19] hiya [17:19] heh. "insuffisant disk space"... also "insuffisant spelling skills" :) [17:20] ah. It's failing cause it wants at least 4 gigs free in /tmp. Which it doesn't actually tell you. [17:20] duryodhan_ (n=chatzill@122.167.202.137) left irc: Client Quit [17:21] 4 gigs is much more than 640 kB [17:21] indeed [17:21] lol [17:21] man this is a dvd 9 [17:21] macman% du -sh * [17:21] 8.6G Bolt [17:21] how can anyone need that much memory? [17:21] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.253) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] hahaha [17:22] lummox: programs and data grow to fill all available storage, that's like a fundamental law of computer science [17:22] it is mandatory [17:22] if you'd told me in 1979 that one day I'd have 1.4 terabytes of hard disk storage, I wouldn't have believed you [17:22] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:22] (er, actually, in 1979 I might have had to get out a dictionary and look up "terabyte"...) [17:23] a terabyte is like being bitten by a dinosaur [17:23] well, if I saw a dinosaur, I'd be terafied [17:25] lummox (i=lummox@p508DD6BD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: [17:25] k9copy looks like it'll work OK as a 64-bit app, except it gives the KDE crash dialog on closing it. Hmm... [17:25] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.255) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424281.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] you would not be terafied for long because dinosaurs like to terabite people [17:28] Urgleflogue (n=plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: "01001110 01100101 01110010 01100100 00100001" [17:28] like scooby snacks [17:28] Dominian--- you there ? [17:29] i have to stop the dvdbackup proccess [17:30] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-154-107-112.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] atha_ (n=atha@201-27-97-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:30] I don't think any dinosaur's mouth is small enough to bite me a billion times... I'm overweight, but there's not *that* much meat on me [17:31] according to this VIDEO_TS folder it has 52.3gb on it [17:31] that can't be right [17:31] i know [17:31] one sec let me do something [17:31] atha_ (n=atha@201-27-97-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:31] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] macman% pwd [17:31] macman% du -sh * [17:31] 53G VIDEO_TS [17:32] OK, kde experts, is there a way to tell KDE in general to use some other dir for temp files besides /tmp? k9copy doesn't have a setting for that, but is there a global KDE setting? [17:32] atha_ (n=atha@201-27-97-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:32] /media/cdrom0 [17:33] atha_ (n=atha@201-27-97-54.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:34] how does a dvd have 53 gigs [17:35] Urchlay: set the output directory in configuring k9copy ? [17:35] giggity [17:35] Urchlay: I certainly dont have 9gb free in temp :) [17:35] is that what "output directory" means in that context? I thought that'd be the dir where it creates the final output file... [17:36] Urchlay: you tell it where to put the output file when you click copy [17:39] Action: Urchlay is apparently gui-impaired [17:40] heh. I told it to use /home/urchlay/k9copy and it didn't create the directory for me. WTF. [17:40] lol [17:41] seriously though, how would a gui-only type user figure that out? [17:42] now it's shitting the bed due to read errors... dmesg says: hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [17:42] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [17:42] not k9copy's fault though [17:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] but the UI ought to be *telling* me it's hitting read errors (it prints them to stderr, which would be useless if I hadn't launched k9copy from an xterm) [17:44] believe it or not the dvd is 29,300mb [17:45] macman_: you sure it's a DVD? [17:45] yea [17:45] and not a hd-dvd or bluray? [17:45] its the movie bot [17:45] bolt* [17:46] let me send you a screenshot [17:46] it can't be a dvd if it's 29 gigs :S [17:46] I don't need a screenshot, I believe you :) [17:46] lol ok [17:46] let me send you a screenie Aizawa ? [17:46] that could be part of the copy protection though [17:46] mangled filesystem [17:47] surely it's blue-ray, thass all I'm saying [17:47] http://i41.tinypic.com/208i51h.png [17:47] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: No route to host [17:48] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Action: Aizawa shrugs [17:48] macman_: its got to be a blu ray, where is the video_ts ? [17:48] no video_ts? [17:48] yes [17:48] one sec [17:49] macman_: .................. [17:49] macman_: it says dvd on the cover ? [17:49] 53G /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS [17:49] that's gotta be wrong. Not to mention, it doesn't agree with your 29G above [17:50] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-4-78.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] it says dvd on the front [17:50] you didn't download it? [17:50] Urchlay--- probably because it was maxed out and it says 29 something [17:50] no its a cd from blockbuster [17:50] err dvd [17:50] its the movie bolt [17:51] macman_: guess you gotta buy the new dvdshrink then :P [17:51] what new one ? [17:51] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [17:51] hey [17:51] macman_: I dont know, guessing, there is a free one [17:52] k9copy seems to be OK with a different (brand-spanking-new, never played) DVD [17:52] wait what [17:52] you can rip movies you rent? [17:52] guess I scratched my Kill Bill DVD :( [17:52] hmmm dvd still acts like a spoiled stepchild [17:53] my five year old son loves that movie. If I see it on my monitor ONE more time, I'm going to LOSE it. [17:53] so im trying something new [17:53] vobcopy -v -m /media/cdrom0 [17:53] i will tell you the outcome ok [17:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:54] I guess the real test of whether this works, will be to burn the iso and try it on a set-top DVD player [17:54] Urchlay: get the kill bill blu ray ;) [17:54] snL20: get me a blu ray player and I'll consider it [17:54] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [17:54] lol [17:54] also get me a hi-def monitor to watch it on, and hi-def eyes so I can see the difference [17:54] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Urchlay: lol... no... I have a blu ray player though... samsung 1500 is cheap now [17:55] (seriously, if I sit 8-10 feet away from the screen, I can't tell hi-def from regular TV) [17:55] Urchlay, i cant either [17:55] blu ray looks fake >.> [17:55] it's too damn really [17:55] *real [17:56] i can tell the difference from high-definition from analog [17:57] i hate plasmas [17:57] lol [17:58] Action: snL20 got a 42" plasma :| [17:58] I got a 19 CRT/ [17:58] i hear the gas fades in those plasmas and the picture gets faded/fuzzy [17:58] Action: Necos thinks Cann0n hates snL20 [17:58] nah. [17:58] hi Cann0n [17:58] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host164-74-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "night" [17:58] Pig_Pen, ye. they have life spans shorter than my old school VHS CRT [17:59] hey drijen [17:59] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000108.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:59] my Commodore 1702 analog monitor is 20+ years old and still works great [17:59] it'll probably outlive all the monitors/TVs being made today [17:59] the TV mfg industry got tired of people making analog CRT TVs last 20 years when they want to sell you a new TV every 4 years [17:59] http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1671/weddingphotos004.jpg mr cranky butt doesn't like photos [18:00] aww [18:00] Action: snL20 may get a 46" samsung lcd later this year though [18:00] =p [18:00] so now we get to fill the dumps & landfills with obsolete TVs [18:00] http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8593/weddingphotos002.jpg and the goober i guess i have to be married to;) [18:00] Pig_Pen: own a dump [18:01] in abuot 50 years you'll be a billionaire by harvesting all the metal [18:01] nix_chix0r, yay [18:01] nix_chix0r: is that recent? [18:01] nix_chix0r: why do you have nut hair on your chin? [18:01] yeah today actually [18:01] Action: drijen ducks [18:01] haha [18:01] i'm not a man:| [18:02] :O [18:02] nix_chix0r: now you two look like an old married couple :D [18:02] Action: drijen is now confused as hell [18:03] im having relationship troubles on since i met this chick.... [18:04] why are women crazy? [18:04] 41 vobs [18:04] lol [18:04] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] because we dont have enough testerone [18:04] nix_chix0r: congratulations...when's the divorce? [18:04] chopp, when ever i find someone who makes more money:)) [18:04] LOL [18:04] nix_chix0r: because you used it all up making that baby :D [18:04] thats a good outlook [18:04] nix_chix0r: :) [18:05] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:05] although when i was an IT i was makin more than him [18:06] define IT [18:06] cube monkey for northwest airlines, [18:06] heh, sometimes I like to define it as "Idiot Teaching" [18:06] Urchlay++ [18:06] Urchlay: I have felt like that all this week. [18:06] same here, my wife makes more than i do on average, she has a steady income, and i usually make bigger bucks but seasonal income [18:06] nix_chix0r: database, code monkey, sysadmin, network, rd, what [18:07] nix_chix0r, i havent been on a first date yet, and i think she is ready to tell me she loves me already [18:07] My wife makes more than me. She's a Medical device Engineer. Sugar momma in the house! ;) [18:07] Cann0n: run.away. [18:07] Cann0n: Show her your bank account, maybe that might deter her. [18:08] agentc0re|work, lol, she already knows im flat broke and jobless [18:08] Cann0n: she thinks your a fixer-upper [18:08] well, i got a job... just its 1 day a week [18:08] xine seems to like the k9copy-produced iso [18:08] fun [18:08] $50 a week + gf + being a stoner = broke fast [18:08] quality OK too [18:08] Urchlay: k9copy is great :) [18:09] Cann0n: lol [18:09] wow Cann0n, cut out the stoner part and you'll have money... [18:09] I'll have to see if I can find out why it crashes on exit though [18:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [18:09] i would think 50 a week would be only enough to smoke. What about food and bills? [18:09] lol [18:10] Necos, 50 bucks a week is like... after gas (45 mile drive to work) drains it fast [18:10] :( if only robbing banks where as easy as it was 100 years ago... [18:11] I still havemy get-away carriage out back. The horse is a bit dead though. [18:12] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [18:12] Is that you, John Dillinger? [18:13] PathagenX, lets go shanghai a train [18:14] the banks are being robbed by corrupt executives & politicians [18:14] Sorry mate. I don't fit my chaps anymore. ( ;-; ) [18:14] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.254) joined ##slackware. [18:14] lol PathagenX. my ass-less chaps still fit me. [18:15] hba (n=hba@189.188.142.253) joined ##slackware. [18:15] arent chaps supposed to be ass-less & crotchless? [18:16] just leather leggings worn over blue jeans [18:16] That's how fat I am these days? XD [18:16] Action: hba is in slackware 12.234567890 :) [18:16] Pig_Pen, beats be... i normally go commando.... so its breezy [18:17] Down with pants! Free the .. Weed. [18:17] yay [18:17] free weed? [18:17] its free if your a cop [18:17] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [18:17] never heard of such a thing, dope dealers always want to line their pockets as much as any politician [18:18] Free weed is NEVER free. <.< >.> [18:18] sure they do, the profit motive is what runs the world [18:18] heh, or the vice-principal of my old high school.. he'd confiscate it and just go "now don't let me catch you again!" and you wouldn't be in trouble... and an hour later he'd be walking around glassy-eyed and smiling [18:19] guy was 6'4", wore a 10-gallon hat, and drove a MG midget [18:20] lol, reminds me of the time years ago some friends of mine (back in california) we crossed the county like out in the desert and we were shooting a shotgun, some country sheriff's deputy shows up, does not even look at the gun, confiscates the weed and rolling papers, comes back in about an hour and gives us back the weed and papers and says dont let me find you out here again, [18:21] lawl [18:22] give you back all the weed? [18:22] he had to have smoked some of it, but not much because most of it was still there (almost a full oz of bud) [18:22] nice guy [18:23] drijen, sysadmin [18:23] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:23] and he did not pay any attention to the 12 guage shotgun, it was unloaded sitting in plain view with a box of shell beside the gun [18:23] nix_chix0r: do tell! [18:23] i can tell my story when i get back [18:25] Shuren (n=Devilman@host62-170-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@221.sub-70-192-95.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] Aizawa (n=Aizawa@1-1-6-35a.f.sth.bostream.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:31] anyone got some money i can have? [18:31] i'll paypal you my stripper money [18:31] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] nix_chix0r, you can just buy me a skateboard [18:32] looking at 600+ [18:33] i really want a Loaded dervish. its got the drop-thru trucks and i want ceramic 7s and some 73mm/73a Os [18:35] I want BeOS back. D: [18:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:35] But alas, I am no necromancer. [18:35] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:36] PathagenX: doesn't MESS emulate the BeBox? [18:36] (probly not fast enough to be fun to use, though) [18:36] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.172) joined ##slackware. [18:36] It would be tolerable. [18:37] But I have R5 and a truckload of patches [18:37] But it is not very useful, tbh [18:37] I've only ever seen BeOS running on a whitebox PC whose video card wasn't supported, so it ran in like 16-color 680x480 mode [18:37] even so, looked like a neat OS [18:38] 640x480x(64 greys) [18:38] Even its VGA mode was awesome. D: [18:39] these days I suspect it would annoy me to use, the way mac OSX does... superficially resembles Linux, so I keep thinking I know how to use it, but I really don't... [18:40] *nods* [18:40] half-arsed attempts at posix are annoying. [18:41] Its tree structure is the biggest pain [18:41] oh and the lack of window management.. [18:41] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Saindo" [18:42] You sorta just flop windows at arbitrary positions over your work spaces and try to re-size them to the most convenient placing when you need them. [18:42] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.206) joined ##slackware. [18:42] hi [18:42] yo [18:43] ALWAYSJUSTme (n=ALWAYSJU@5ac472ed.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [18:44] I've never really found a system for arranging windows that worked perfectly for me anyway [18:45] http://www.haiku-os.org/ ? [18:47] ALWAYSJUSTme (n=ALWAYSJU@5ac472ed.bb.sky.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:49] Thanks Pig_Pen [18:49] I know. [18:50] They're still at 'catching up to R5' stage and after that, they have to play 'catch up to everything else' [18:50] Tell you what I think is interesting. [18:50] You guys remember GEM? [18:50] OK, k9copy was set to make a 4400MB iso... and it actually made one that was 4623 megs [18:50] I remember GEM on the Atari ST [18:51] i was an amiga person no st for me :p [18:51] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000108.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:53] I wanted an Amiga, but didn't get one until years later (and it won't boot due to lack of a workbench floppy...) [18:53] i still got an workbench floppy :p [18:53] Well the PC(IBM) version was opensourced a long time and it has been a great toy. The idea of porting it to Linux has been kicked around over the years but now there is serious concideration. [18:54] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] i have no clue as to what filesystem Haiku uses [18:54] It's been bouncing around in the OpenGEM mailing list lately. [18:55] Pig_Pen, it uses an altered AFS (iirc) [18:55] altered AFS [18:55] the ST GEM never really supported multitasking due to some lawsuit IIRC [18:55] That was The IBM GEM. [18:55] Ojg (n=Ojg@90-229-198-184-no150.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] I remember Allegro had some GEM-like GUI library [18:56] It looked too much like MacOS (which was the design) so they were forced to cripple it. [18:56] or maybe it was just that I had a ST and not the later machines (Mega ST, STe, Falcon, whatever) [18:56] motorala 68000 doesn't really have a MMU [18:56] Urchlay: sounds like mb/mib conversion [18:57] I remember it from when I used djgpp, allegro, and mikmod to make a DOS clone of an arcade game. [18:57] BeOS fs in cfdisk? [18:57] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) joined ##slackware. [18:57] the later Ataris had 32bit GEM, flat memory, protection, multitasking. D:< MiNT (jealous rage) [18:57] BFS is in cfdisk, yes [18:57] isnt 4400 MiB like 4613 MB [18:57] fiya_werkin: yeah, and the final file comes out too big for a standard dvd-r... you'd think the program's default size, as shipped, would be "one standard dvd size" [18:57] that's interesting, pi31415. :) [18:58] Urchlay: it should be the same size, did you try burning it? [18:58] no the later 68ks did [18:58] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [18:58] yes. growisofs first said "data will not fit on the disk", then with -overburn it bombs out at the end with write errors (so it was right, the data really won't fit) [18:58] use GB [18:58] funky [18:58] soo... if i was to download & unpack a Haiku image what am i supposed to do with it, extract it to its disk partition and add it to Slackware's bootloader (lilo) ??? [18:58] it's a dvd-r, not a +r, if that matters [18:59] otherwise remember that a k,m or g is 1024 of the previous, not 1000 [18:59] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.160.213.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Pig_Pen, pretty much [18:59] _RadioHead (n=User@82.114.75.254) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] join #haiku and they will help you [18:59] PathagenX: yeah, I know about binary k/m/g/etc, but I don't have memorized the exact size in bytes that a DVD will hold [18:59] "Allegro contains an object-oriented dialog manager, which was originally based on the Atari GEM system" -- http://alleg.sourceforge.net/latestdocs/en/alleg035.html [19:00] hi [19:00] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] 4 or 8 G 4096 and 8192 respectively [19:00] yes, I learned that stuff right around the time I was learning the alphabet, I'm an old fart :) [19:01] I'm only stating the elementary. [19:01] PathagenX: that would be GiB, not GB, isn't that how it goes these days [19:01] no [19:01] yea [19:01] for example a 500GB hd is only like 465GiB [19:01] I mean, I might type "GiB", but I will not make myself sound retarded by pronouncing "Gibibyte" [19:01] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] hba (n=hba@189.188.142.253) left irc: "leaving" [19:01] sounds like Porky Pig... Gibibibiiii gibibiiii gigs dammit" [19:01] yeah, the problem is that some people now use GB to refer to GiB [19:02] so conversations get confusing [19:02] Don't worry. Most of us are old enough to be forgiven for not keeping up. [19:02] I always used K to refer to 1024 bytes, long before these idiots invented the term "kibibytes" [19:02] as far as I could remember, a k was always 1024. I don't know when they started leting morons change things. [19:02] I thought it was kepibyte [19:02] that was always innacurate though [19:03] if they want a new term to refer to 1000 bytes, *that* should have been "kibibyte", instead of trying to redefine the existing meaning of "kilobyte" [19:03] how many wats in a kilowatt, 1024? [19:03] That's a valid point. [19:03] watts aren't inherently based on a binary numbering system though [19:03] but is kilo? [19:03] yea they aren't base 2 [19:04] dont think they were the best of terms to use out of the gate, and now its been adapated [19:04] I'm just saying. For 40-odd years "kilo" was accepted to mean "1024" in this specific case [19:04] you don't go changing the language people speak, that just creates more confusion [19:04] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [19:05] OK, apparently a DVD is exactly 4482.625 actual megabytes (1024-based) [19:05] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:05] anyway, its friday, works out, peace :) [19:05] which doesn't match either figure that gets quoted by marketing (either 4.3 gigs or 4.7 gigs) [19:06] piroko (n=jeremy@pohl.ececs.uc.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:06] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Woo. After 5 years since using slackware, I have come back to the party [19:06] And just as I had hoped, it's exactly the same :D [19:06] come back from where? [19:06] You never left. [19:06] where'd you go, off into windows-land, mac-world, or some other Linux planet? [19:06] You were just in the toilet for a while. [19:07] Dealing with crap. [19:07] many different linux planets. I stayed with arch for two years [19:07] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] lawlezz (n=lawless@125.27.160.213.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] PathagenX: ubunturd? [19:07] x} [19:07] But I just missed that system-in-a-box feel you get with slackware [19:07] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] And with the experiences I have pulled from these other planets, I feel prepared to live on slackware for good [19:07] System in a box? [19:07] I downloaded the wrong images. [19:07] I really like how simple slackware is for me as and end user [19:08] I got a system in a few simple scripts. [19:08] PathagenX: The idea where your system comes with everything as a stable base, rather than constantly updating every day [19:08] OK, I tell you something that *Really* pisses me off about k9copy (and lots of other GUI apps) [19:08] I missed my scripts. [19:08] It reminds me of *bsd [19:08] Which is how it SHOULD be [19:08] I like brasero [19:08] clean and simple [19:09] i've tryed nero-linux [19:09] is cool too [19:09] at various times it pops up dialog boxes, which tells you stuff like "Burning DVD iso", with a Cancel button, which is highlighted [19:09] lol [19:09] Urchlay: Hahaha [19:09] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:09] these things steal the keyboard focus... so I'm typing away on IRC [19:09] Well it IS KDE. [19:09] What were you expecting? Something that worked? [19:09] and I don't notice a dialog has popped up, and I hit Space or Enter [19:09] and *bam* I've aborted something [19:09] Oh hey, has anyone had any experience with GHC/xmonad on slack? [19:09] Urchlay: :( instacoaster [19:10] yeah [19:10] Urchlay: aborted what ? [19:11] lns40: whatever I was doing that popped up a dialog box that stole the keyboard focus from my IRC window [19:11] lns40: A dvd burn due to shitty gui apps [19:11] piroko: oh hehe :) [19:11] I was recently writing an automation script for windows. It printed various documents by sending mouse and keyboard events to programs. The printer tray icon would pop up tool tips that would steal focus and intercept events. Sadly I've seen this kind of behavior on the Mac and Linux as well. [19:12] actually not truly writing a DVD, just an iso file (the dialog box still says "burning DVD" though) [19:12] dd if=mouth of=pooper bs=corny [19:12] Urchlay: yeah k9copy does that [19:12] LikeVinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:12] I seriously wish the hell it had a "don't notify me" option to avoid the damn dialogs [19:13] cd /var/adm/packages;removepkg kde* [19:13] that will fix it [19:13] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) joined ##slackware. [19:13] So if not xmonad, what seems to be the windowmanager of choice in the slackin world? [19:13] PathagenX: I don't run KDE, but sometimes I want to run an app that turns out to be a KDE app... what am I supposed to do then? [19:14] Urchlay: Just run it [19:14] piroko: not if I removepkg all the KDE stuff! [19:14] Urchlay: use archlinux ? :D [19:14] hi all [19:14] Oh right. That is a problem :-/ [19:14] screw arch linux [19:14] start looking at what you install. [19:14] FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! DISTRO WARRRRR [19:15] if it is part of a kde package, it will prolly be a kde app [19:15] i have a question about the new 2.6.29.* kernel which is in current. can i use that cernel with 12.2 [19:15] PathagenX: yes, fine, I do that already. But sometimes there's only a KDE app, no workable alternative (or even worse a GNOME app, Slackware doesn't have gnome, and I really don't want to add it just to get a couple apps working) [19:15] You tell me an app and I will give you the non-kde alternative [19:15] e.g. k9copy, every one telling me how great it is... and it *is* good [19:16] non-kde *and* non-gnome [19:16] PathagenX: k9copy! [19:16] :D [19:16] brasero [19:16] if you tell me a gnome app, I will choose the kde one as the lesser evil (since I do already have kde installed) [19:16] PathagenX: brasero shrinks dvd's ? [19:16] Urchlay: Ekiga? [19:16] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [19:16] brasero does lots of things [19:17] it is a gtk frontend for the apps that are really doing the work [19:17] huh? "Ekiga (formely known as GnomeMeeting) is an open source VoIP and [19:17] video conferencing application for GNOME. " <--- that? [19:17] Yes. [19:17] Tirili (n=Unknown@dslb-088-070-042-140.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] instead of something that tries to cram BS into a flakey library set [19:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] I know nothing about voip or videoconferencing [19:17] Just becuase it says 'for gnome' does not mean that it is gnome-only [19:18] True, although that particular one has *many* gnome deps [19:18] if it requires me to install a good chunk of gnome + its libraries though, I'm in dependency hell [19:18] I would rather have gnome deps than kdelib and qt4 [19:18] I would rather have command-line apps, but some things really are easier to do graphically [19:18] Agreed. [19:18] gnome deps just sit on your HDD [19:19] KDE deps install KDE [19:19] somehow i doubt brasero will do what k9copy does [19:19] but KDE is already installed as part of my OS (did full install) [19:19] whereas gnome would require hours & hours of compiling that I don't care to do [19:19] and do NOT tell me to install dropline binaries! [19:19] it seems to me that kde works better than gnome [19:20] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Urchlay: dropline gnome ? [19:20] but i don't use much of the fancy media stuff [19:20] It doesn't make sense to me. [19:20] yeah, I knew someone was going to say that [19:20] 'locate' doesn't make *corrections*, does it? does anyone here have experience with Google Deskbar? isn't that a better solution for general-purpose searching? [19:20] And no, Gnome deps don't "just sit on your HDD". [19:20] You go out of your way to have a clean, reliable System (Slackware) and then you dump KDE on top of it and throw the rest of the system behind a plastic cell door. [19:21] KDE is *part* of Slackware though [19:21] as in, it's right there on the install DVD [19:21] Only if you grab the 3rd ISO :P [19:21] KDE is installed pretty cleanly, IMO. Finding what needs to be removed is very easy. [19:21] The difference is, kdelibs gives you a self-contained place to get your deps. [19:21] If you want to remove it, that is. [19:21] as such, I expect Pat has messed with it enough that it passes his standards for quality [19:21] PathagenX: ewww CDRS [19:21] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [19:22] That is a big point score for KDE, I admit [19:22] :-) [19:22] (which is sorta the entire reason for me to use Slackware: I trust Pat Volkerding to build a reliable/functional system so I don't have to do all that work myself) [19:22] billions of gnome libs? Sometimes good, usually obnoxious [19:22] i noticed that konsole is has a smaller memory footprint and more features than xfce's terminal [19:22] Not as small as xterm's [19:23] or rxvt [19:23] rxvt is weird [19:23] urxvt! [19:23] The community needs to get together and compile a desktop collection for Slackware. [19:23] .. Or just replace KDE is LXDE [19:23] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] Where is mkfs.vfat? [19:23] *with [19:24] mkdosfs [19:24] /sbin [19:24] Ah thanks [19:24] wot? no mkdosfs is for fat16 [19:24] when did that change? [19:24] mkdosfs -F32 [19:24] isn't LXDE a fork of XFCE? [19:24] Of course :) [19:25] I thought lxde was its own thing [19:25] XFCE isn't THAT lightweight, incidentally. [19:25] Especially not the terminal app. [19:25] it may be, depends on how much the code has changed since the fork [19:25] no LXDE is not [19:25] well I'm wrong then... thought someone in here told me it was [19:25] <3 kde sunshine theme :D [19:25] LXDE uses PCFM, Openbox and its own apps [19:26] xarchiver, leafpad [19:26] all's I want most of the time is xterm and firefox [19:26] If you wanna give it a wirl, grab the wattos livecd. (it is noobuntu) [19:27] There really is no reason to run KDE anymore. [19:27] Haha [19:27] KDE4 is never going to be anything but intensive moron distraction [19:27] Stop hating KDE, you obviously haven't used it for more than 10 seconds. [19:27] KDE is fine. [19:27] and KDE3.5 is not and never will be finished. [19:28] It does not make sense [19:28] all GUIs tend towards being overweight though... as time goes on, they try to do more work so the user has less thinking to do [19:28] NaCl u have a great nick [19:28] Of course not, just like Windows 3.11 is never going to be finished. [19:28] PathagenX: http://slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/lxde/ [19:28] I mean that's sorta the purpose of a GUI environment [19:28] D-r_Flower: thanks [19:28] PathagenX: there are many reasons to run KDE [19:28] Action: lns40 licks NaCl [19:29] I run KDe fulltime [19:29] it is purely guessing but I think lxpanel is a cleaned up fbpanel [19:29] Action: NaCl dehydrates lns40 [19:29] *g* [19:29] and lxterm is actually a cleaned up roxterm [19:29] I know the latter for a fact [19:29] I have never used slack builds.. [19:29] I like KDE [19:29] o.o [19:30] can I just get the tgz in pkg ? [19:30] I can't believe how fast KDE runs on my shitty thinkpad 600X [19:30] Pretty freakin cool [19:30] well, it was time ago when i was crazy about something lighter the kde, but now i am so happy with kde [19:30] PathagenX: you're going to contribute anything else but complaints and whining about Slackware in this channel? [19:30] :) [19:30] lxde i pretty good [19:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150160052.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:30] KDE 4 runs fine on my P4 [19:31] KDE 4 runs fine on my PIII-M 1GHz. [19:31] alienBOB, I am? Cool. [19:31] it is. I love it [19:31] KDE4 runs with compositing enabled on my Atom eeepc even, and it runs fast enough to work with it hours on end [19:31] But in theory it's supposed to be faster than 3.5 anyway. [19:31] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.64.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] I could understand if someone found it boring though [19:31] I can't get compositing working here because of the blasted radeon drivers. :( [19:31] NaCl: yeah, same. [19:32] First-gen mobility radeon. [19:32] Yay compiz. That's useful. [19:32] alienBOB: can i upgrade to current, respectively upgrade to the next official release but still use kde-3.5.10 from 12.2? [19:32] Wiggly windows and ... uhmm... [19:32] Action: piroko is on a 500Mhz pIII :-/ [19:32] Dominus: radeon 9550 [19:32] WOOHOO! [19:32] D-r_Flower: no [19:32] piroko: impressive [19:32] Wait, current is gonna use kde4? [19:32] thanks for the answer [19:32] piroko: it is [19:32] s/use/uses/ [19:32] piroko: it _is_ with KDE4 [19:32] NaCl: Are they doing away with kde3? [19:33] Dominus: I probably wouldn't be able to get it working with compositing anyway, using dual screens [19:33] alienBOB: can i use the new 2.6.29.* kernel, which is in current with X server from 12.2? [19:33] piroko: KDE3 is already gone [19:33] Bottom line is that it is slackware. I use whatever interface I wish. [19:33] D-r_Flower: no [19:33] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] No. No... NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO [19:33] i'm soon done compiling 4.2.2 :) [19:33] :) [19:33] I have no clue what the status of dual screen compositing is, thought it'd be sort of fixed by now but possibly I'm wrong. [19:33] and laugh at everyone using KDE [19:34] whatever [19:34] then can i upgrade only X from current , well to recompile it in 12.2? [19:34] PathagenX: What're you usin? [19:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-133-160-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:34] atm XFce D: But I just grabbed LXDE (thankyou Alien) and that is about to change [19:34] you can't tell errol anything [19:35] Happy Windows 95! [19:35] I'm a diehard xmonad user. But I haven't dived into GHC in slack yet [19:35] I actually saw windows 95 running on an embedded device last week. [19:35] Dominus: its got the best ping out there! :D [19:35] i did some translation work on lxde (swedish) [19:35] :) [19:35] litepc have made some neat things [19:35] Thankyou nille! [19:35] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:36] ho ho its nille_ :] [19:36] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03552.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:36] lns40 one more and your santa [19:37] nille_: santa likes his ho ho hoes :) [19:37] PathagenX: you may want to look at upgrading some of my LXDE packages, last time I compiled them was some time ago [19:37] lns40: I am suddenly reminded of the jeopardy episode where Ken Jennings said "hoe" [19:37] yeah i heard he says ho ho ho when he comes to 3 blondes [19:38] piroko, there's a slackbuild for ghc on SBo - I tried it out (with xmonad) and other things, seems to be working well. [19:38] NaCl: never seen that, but I'm Norwegian so US jeopardy isnt aired here :) [19:38] awwww [19:39] you got norwegian jeopardy? [19:39] nille_: we did for while [19:39] we had a swedish version [19:40] Ficthe: Well that's just awesome. Thank you [19:40] Thanks alien [19:41] I noticed there was lacking leafpad and xarchiver, so I am already looking. BRB - xserver kill. [19:41] piroko, on, then be aware there's also a slackbuild for xmonad up -- both were created just last week or so [19:41] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] hey [19:41] so i figured out my dvd issue [19:41] eh? [19:41] macman_: ok, what was it ? [19:42] it's a DVD that fell back from the future through a time warp? [19:42] lol [19:42] Urchlay: that would be an awesome DVD [19:42] no [19:42] (sorry, too much Dr. Who on the brain) [19:42] Ficthe: Hmm... Compiling ghc on a 500mhz processor is going to painful..... [19:42] damn, and i thought i would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those kids and that puppy [19:42] so i switched to windows an ran anydvd on the video [19:42] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:42] and anydvd said what? [19:42] "ouch!" [19:42] almost a book [19:42] structure protection? [19:42] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] "Massive quantum structure breach! Imminent reality failure in 10... 9... 8..." [19:43] RCE protection not found. [19:43] Found & removed fluxDVD protection! [19:43] Found & removed invalid cell pieces! [19:43] Channel flood from macman_ -- kicking [19:43] Found & removed bogus title set(s)! [19:43] Found & removed invalid VOBUs! [19:43] Changed firstplay: Jump directly to Title 29! [19:43] macman_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:43] ack! [19:43] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] my bad [19:43] lol [19:43] flood fail [19:43] lol [19:43] piroko, meh, I assumed the slackbuild is conservatively packed. give it an all-nighter [19:43] but yea [19:43] overvolt (n=overvolt@189-015-168-147.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:43] copy protection fail [19:44] betcha lots of DVD players have problems playing that DVD [19:44] it was a dual layer dvd .. an i think they made it 53 gigs with fake filesets [19:44] there is a SlackBuilds room in freenode? [19:44] yep [19:44] overvolt: there is [19:44] overvolt, #slackbuild [19:44] i have a beautiful iso on my desktop [19:44] w00t [19:44] Urchlay: yeah, I wont be getting bolt on dvd :P [19:44] thankz! [19:44] overvolt: #slackbuilds [19:45] overvolt, oh, yep - what NaCl said (I forgot the 's' at the end) [19:45] anydvd is the shit... [19:45] 4,681,414,656 BOLT_US_RENTAL.ISO [19:45] shit that is to big [19:45] great, so, is anydvd open source? is there a Linux version? [19:45] Urchlay: no [19:45] macman_: no it isnt [19:45] No on both counts [19:45] it's made by the guys that made CloneDVD (so no linux version) [19:45] i thought a dvd 5 was suppose to be 4.3 ? [19:45] then it isn't "the shit" as far as I'm concerned... [19:45] divide by 1024 * 1024 [19:46] i use avidemux it works for me :) [19:46] Urchlay: it allows you to copy any dvd ^_~ [19:46] why does my mouse keep resetting ? I have to adjust it's sensitivity every minute or so ? [19:46] though I might try it in wine (why not, I used to have to use IE in wine to get youtube to work) [19:46] Ficthe: cool! [19:47] youtube??? why IE? [19:47] macman_: 4.7 is 4.4 [19:47] I'm using youtube in Linux firefox right now [19:48] yes, no problem with FF [19:48] yeaH you just need to install the flashplayer [19:48] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:48] well maybe it was long ago [19:48] :) [19:48] ah, it emerge to my mind [19:48] i have a throuble with firefox [19:48] since.... long time [19:48] try kazehakase [19:48] =- | [19:49] this was a while ago, on slamd64 10.2 [19:49] compile --without-ruby [19:49] when i quit the firefox i see an window and message "tha app is not responsing... [19:49] works fine on slamd64 12.1 with 64-bit browser + 32-bit flash plugin + nspluginwrapper [19:49] i saw tha same question in LQ but theere is not answer [19:49] I have yet to try the 64-bit flash plugin (afaik it's still labelled "alpha quality") [19:50] Urchlay: no it is out of alpha [19:50] well, this got nothing to do with this conversation but [19:50] Urchlay: it's fairly stable in Firefox. [19:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat076.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] It is? [19:50] Urchlay have you tried the 64bit version of flash [19:50] I have [19:50] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Client Quit [19:50] nille_: no (I just said that :) [19:50] It works well [19:50] the checkinstall is working on the 12.2? [19:50] well i'm a slow typer [19:50] I use the "alpha refresh" from back in December. [19:50] right now I'm in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mode as far as flash goes :) [19:51] so i can burn a iso that is 4.6 ghz to a dvd 5 ? [19:51] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.206) left irc: "Leaving." [19:51] Tirili (n=Unknown@dslb-088-070-042-140.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:51] It's more stable than the 32-bit plugin native, and far more stable than using nspluginwrapper. [19:51] hef_ (n=hef@85.17.165.5) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] nspluginwrapper is only an ugly hack [19:52] hm. More stable than something that works and doesn't crash... [19:53] maybe I'm just lucky then [19:53] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] macman_: 4.6GHz? too fast for DVD, you better underclock it :) [19:53] Urchlay: You're using nspluginwrapper I assume? [19:53] jkwood: yep [19:54] using it only for the flash plugin, no other 32-bit plugins installed [19:54] :( [19:54] Do yourself a favor. http://builds.slamd64.com/Multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [19:54] Also, I was wrong. I'm using the alpha refresh released February 22. [19:54] and I use noscript, so I only see flash when I explicitly allow it (so if it would crash on random website ads, I'm avoiding that) [19:55] I never had problems with the 32-bit one using nspluginwrapper either, but I've noticed a huge performance increase with the 64-bit native. [19:55] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:55] No joke, I don't go out of my way to defend software I don't strongly believe in. [19:55] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [19:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:57] So let's say I want to upgrade pidgin. What is the "recommended" way in slackware to do it? Compile from source manually and then use something like checkinstall to package it? [19:57] Nope. [19:57] piroko: write your own slackbuild !? [19:57] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] Nope. [19:57] jkwood: Out with it man! The suspense is killing me! [19:57] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Modify Pat's SlackBuild yourself and use that. [19:57] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:58] jkwood: Well yeah :) [19:58] jkwood thanks for the link to builds.slamd64.com i didn't know about it [19:58] use DESTDIR=/tmp/pkg when running make install, then run makepkg on it, or do it the slackbuild way, either way you want a proper slackware package for easy removal & upgrading [19:58] Action: lns40 just compiled it from src [19:58] Where are pat's slackbuilds located? Any of the mirrors? [19:58] :D [19:58] source [19:58] Pig_Pen: Well checkinstall does that for you ;) [19:58] jkwood: k, thank you [19:58] http://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/mirrors/linux/slackware/slackware-current/source/xap/pidgin/ [19:59] piroko: Last I knew, checkinstall was irrevocably broken. [19:59] jkwood: Well that's not good. Because I've used it to install three packages thus far O_O [19:59] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] jkwood: I tried using it in a RPM distro, and it almost worked. Some MD5 thing didn't work [20:00] i used aliens gspca slackbuild and it doesnt seem to detect my camera properly.. spcagui only brings up the control panel and kopete doesnt work properly.. :S [20:00] PathagenX (n=Pathagen@118-92-125-144.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] digital camera? or webcam? [20:01] used to work fine on 12.1 it was detected as a qtec or something now its being detected as a pixart [20:01] webcam [20:02] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166000108.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:02] tyrael (n=bart@85.17.130.250) joined ##slackware. [20:02] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-14-135-46.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] jkwood: Why didn't you just link me to the package directory instead of the slackbuild directory? [20:07] because there is no package [20:08] Yes there is... [20:08] I promise [20:08] http://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/mirrors/linux/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/xap/pidgin-2.5.5-i486-1.tgz [20:08] ? [20:08] because -current packages should not be run on 12.2 [20:08] Oh I see. But it is ok to do it with slackbuilds because it will link with my libs etc, right? [20:09] exactly :) [20:09] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-214-164.50-151.net24.it) joined ##slackware. [20:09] :-? Failed to change write speed: 2770->3324 [20:09] Hooray. Thanks :) [20:09] wtf... [20:09] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@afb115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:10] how's that work? the drive is capable of burning at 2.0x speed (I just did with a different disc) [20:10] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:11] does the drive firmware look at the disk and go "no, this disk can't go that slow" and return an error? [20:11] Action: Urchlay curses smart peripherals [20:12] ... media should always be able to go at slower speeds... i think... [20:12] Urchlay: your line suggests increasing the write speed though, not decreasing it... [20:12] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] 3324 > 2770 [20:13] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aet248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:13] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [20:15] well what I did was "growisofs -speed 2 ..." [20:15] what it's actually claiming is that it's burning at 2.5x [20:16] (which is fine I'm sure. My drive always makes coasters at 4x or 8x, though it claims it can do those speeds) [20:17] weak... [20:17] Urchlay: what brand drive is it ? [20:18] hey guys [20:18] i want to upload this dvd .. where can i do this .. i put it into like 10 100mb rar files [20:19] macman_: a/s/l [20:19] lol [20:19] macman_: tpb :P [20:19] macman, your doing a porno dvd arent you? [20:19] ehhh, hm. No label showing... [20:20] Urchlay: dmesg ? [20:21] no good, system's been up too long, the earlier dmesg stuff is gone [20:21] ah. /var/log/dmesg [20:21] hdd: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-H552B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [20:21] that has no meaning to me, TSSTcorp, no idea [20:21] What the fuck is TSSTcorp???? [20:21] Urchlay: lol [20:22] it's the $25 OEM drive from Microcenter I think [20:22] Urchlay: There's your problem. You are buying stuff from yugoslavia [20:22] Or something [20:22] interesting.. i loaded two other gspca modules then unplugged my cam and plugged it back in and it works now.. [20:22] everything is made in some other country than the USA these days [20:22] so I don't really worry about where it's from [20:23] macman_ if it's not pirated use an torrent site for upload [20:23] Urchlay: I'm getting a nec drive :) [20:23] macman_: please, please, please though... if you do a torrent, please don't use the rar files, just torrent the whole iso [20:24] Urchlay: its better to use rars [20:24] not for bittorrent. rars are better for usenet (particularly with parity) [20:24] lns40: it's the same on torrent unless you need to upload it to another site first [20:24] time to commit mass murder [20:24] bittorrent already does plenty of error checking and such, and dvd isos don't get any smaller when you compress them [20:24] gbonvehi: you want to tell Urchlay [20:25] going to the toilet, putting down a negro village, and than flush it all away [20:25] all the rar files do is require the end-user to have twice the disk space as the size of the iso, in order to unrar it [20:25] only reason why i said this is cause im trying to give back to the commnuity [20:26] community* [20:26] the community will appreciate the iso [20:26] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:26] the ##slackware community doesn't really appreciate the racist comments from this tyrael person though, I don't think [20:27] i wish i had a pet dinosaur, preferably a raptor or some sort [20:27] Pretty sure racism constitutes a ban no? [20:27] well I'm no op, just stating my own preference really [20:28] Pig_Pen: get the hd ? :D [20:28] hd? [20:28] Pig_Pen: No you don't. http://xkcd.com/292 [20:28] i got haiku booting, but i have no clue about getting wifi going on it [20:29] Pig_Pen: raptor western digital [20:29] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [20:30] haiku can be nice/for a little while i guess/but the fun soon dies [20:30] Action: piroko breakdances [20:30] haiku os? [20:30] haiku OS... do all the error messages have a 5/7/5 syllable pattern? [20:31] Dominian: yes [20:31] raptor dinosaur, haiku OS is a BeOS fork/child thing [20:31] cause that would be cute for about 30 seconds, then annoying as hell afterwards [20:31] I should try that in a VM [20:31] boo` (n=email@190.80.233.103) joined ##slackware. [20:31] Urchlay: lol. I'd love it [20:31] hello hello [20:31] Nick change: boo` -> bbo0 [20:31] boo`: hello hello [20:31] olleh olleh [20:31] lol [20:31] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-98-155-192-35.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:31] bbo0: swiing [20:32] bbo0: *BuRP* [20:32] how do i create usb boot [20:32] for 12.2 [20:32] from win [20:32] bbo0: Well you get some glue, then you tape a usb key to the bottom of your boot. Tada [20:32] Then you eat the glue [20:32] no no no [20:32] Action: piroko needs sleep [20:33] you sniff the glue! [20:33] wood glue spreads like mayo on bread [20:33] lol [20:33] bbo0: unetbootin [20:33] i dont have glue [20:33] :( [20:34] unetbootin is easy to use to create an livecd [20:34] i am looking forward to sleep, its been a long day, i am tired but not quite sleepy enough to go to sleep yet [20:34] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [20:35] j0z (n=JESUS@189.73.29.26) joined ##slackware. [20:36] brb [20:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] killed X [20:37] Dominian: around? [20:38] taquito (n=rich@adsl-75-40-190-90.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:39] Pig_Pen: Uh... screen? [20:39] nope, just a plain old ugly bare bones CLI [20:39] piroko: maybe hes using a gooey [20:40] ah ok :P [20:40] Pig_Pen: So use it in screen. Preferably on a machine that won't die [20:40] when i was using X i was using fvwm & xterm for irssi, now just cli & irssi [20:40] I'm always signed into irc. I just ssh to the box and do screen -x [20:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:41] no need to ssh here, i got a local machine [20:41] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Pig_Pen: So use screen. :) [20:41] Sweet moses pidgin takes forever to compile [20:41] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:42] piroko: yeah I know.... [20:42] Of course this is nothing compared to the 12 hours I would wait for openoffice to compile on my powerbook under gentoo [20:42] crzpc (n=mrc@adsl-ull-214-164.50-151.net24.it) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/secret/3/holyshit.txt << why I stopped using gentoo [20:43] Urchlay: yeah I'm here. [20:43] had to take the dog out in the rain and realized my yard looks like ass [20:43] god damn that link piroko was the biggest waste of time to download [20:43] k9copy from SBo, on slamd64 12.1, mostly successful [20:44] Size of downloads: 1,030,275 kB [20:44] frullet_ (n=Bob@124-170-43-165.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:44] haha [20:44] minor modifications to libdvdnav & k9copy slackbuilds (add the -fPIC to SLKCFLAGS and --libdir=/usr/lib64) [20:44] piroko : and? [20:44] piroko tnx [20:44] piroko, i agree, pidgin is a kitchen sink mess, they need to restructure how pidgin is built, make all the protocols separate so you can download only the one you want separately [20:44] just now successfully copied & burned a disc and got it to play on a set-top DVD player [20:44] you can't blame gentoo for a) not updating regularly, b) gnome requiring alot of apps [20:44] Urchlay: nice [20:44] however.. [20:45] however k9copy crashes on exit (With the "KDE crash dialog") [20:45] Urchlay: libdvdnav is on builds.slamd64.com already I beleve [20:45] thrice`: No, but I can blame it for taking for fucking ever to do stuff [20:45] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@plns-208-111-228-127-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] eh, possible I used libdvdnav from there instead of SBo [20:45] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "schleep" [20:45] k [20:45] that was like 3 hours ago, how am I supposed to remember? :) [20:45] Well if you still hav eissues I can take a stab at it later [20:46] other than the crash-on-exit, it's fine [20:46] bbl [20:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:46] there are newer k9copy versions out there, looks like the 2.x series requires kde4 (which I ain't willing to mess with), trying 1.2.4 now [20:46] macman_ (n=macman_@adsl-75-28-77-75.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: [20:47] Urchlay: I have kde4 installed ;) [20:47] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:47] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:48] k9copy 1.2.4 configure script too dumb to find my kde libs. Cute. [20:48] cause it doesn't look in /usr/lib64 [20:49] http://urlx.eu/_MjEyMQ [20:49] pwned [20:49] and yes its SFW [20:49] Urchlay: How did you run the configure? [20:49] might help to dos omething like: [20:49] first time around just ./configure (see if it'd detect it)... 2nd time is better, ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 [20:49] CFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC" LDFLAGS="-L/lib64 -L/usr/lib64" ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 [20:50] now it finds KDE and bitches that it can't find libavcodec [20:50] heh [20:50] but in this case it may be correct [20:50] yep, not installed [20:50] (must be a new dep for 1.2.4) [20:50] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [20:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:51] or is libavcodec actually part of ffmpeg now? [20:51] yep [20:52] rki_ (n=rki@145.100.193.232) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Nick change: rki_ -> rki [20:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] greetings and salutations [20:54] wotcha andarius :) [20:54] hi andarius [20:54] wotcha BP{k} :) [20:54] salutations thrice` [20:54] anyway it looks like, if I'm going anywhere tonight, I better go... waiting for the rain to stop is not really an option [20:55] so I'll mess with this tomorrow I guess [20:55] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:56] hey allo [20:56] *all [20:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-103-208.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] Action: fluxnuk3r stumbles into the room... [20:56] moh2a (n=mohaa@ANantes-157-1-136-168.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[21:15] I love how slack does hda/sda instead of sda/sdb [21:15] Makes fuckups harder [21:15] Cann0n (n=jack@198.92.101.244) joined ##slackware. [21:16] I definitely dd'd my harddrive once because of the closeness and lack of sleep [21:16] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] hey [21:17] piroko: a sane person doesnt use dd when sleep deprived :) [21:17] yeah.... or rm [21:17] hehe [21:17] hehe. done that too :P [21:18] i hate waking up to "/home/jack directory not found" [21:18] but that time i was drunk [21:18] Eep. I just dd'd the usbboot.img file for 12.2 onto my flash drive, went to boot it and I get "Boot Error" [21:19] i once got real drunk and crashed my system only to learn how to fix it when i was sober [21:19] FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk [21:19] i hate getting drunk and trying to tweak my kernel. [21:19] And that could have something to do with it I suppose [21:20] Nick change: atha -> athayde [21:21] but, ive been doing pretty good on drinking. i havent been drunk in a while... [21:21] i need a drink [21:21] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:27] Cann0n: save that kernel tweaking for when you have a clear mind [21:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Pig_Pen: lol yeah, but what fun is that? heh, it's cake now. but boy when i started tweaking my own kernels, it was horrible [21:29] rworkman (i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] lns80 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [21:29] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] i was horrible at building custom kernels when i first started too, now i can do it in my sleep :D [21:29] lns80 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] yeah lol [21:30] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Action: kitche forgot the linux setup for the new kernels remembers the old one though [21:31] once you know what hardware you have and what a lot of the options you need or dont need, it's hard to stall this computer with a bad kernel [21:31] just a matter of matching up the menuconfig options with the hardware & features you want [21:31] yep [21:32] it's hard for many people to understand that when they start on slightly more advanced topics in the linux community [21:32] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032608]" [21:32] i mean hell, i should know more than i do as yor i have been using slackware since 2000 [21:34] s/yor/for [21:34] bbo0 (n=email@190.80.233.103) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [21:35] people still use noname? [21:37] paissad (n=paissad@41.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-72.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] i tried many distros and i find slackware to be about the best distro for my purposes [21:42] what i hate about some distros (probably most do this) is the separate all the development header files as a separate package and that can add up to a lot of packages to install, slackware makes it easy and keeps all that intact [21:42] Pig_Pen: only debian related distros really do that [21:43] most distros have -devel packages that contain those. it's not a debian specific thing [21:43] i just like dont like driving automatic transmissions [21:43] there are as many arguments for as there are against the -devel packages. [21:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:44] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:44] ananke: I have yet to see distros that use -devel besides a debain based system, and I tried alot I just can't get rpath to work nicely for me so nto sure if those systems are liek that [21:45] kitche : uhmm, suse family. fedora/rhel/centos [21:45] many RPM based distros use devels [21:45] kitche : how many other distros have you used? :) [21:45] ananke: let's see 13 I'd say [21:46] kitche : and none of them, except debian ones, used -devel? what have you been using, 'top 13 most obscure distros out there'? [21:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:49] Gentoo, slackware, vectorlinux, Tukanni, Sourcemage, Fedora, Suse, crux, archlinux, debian, Ubuntu, mandriva probably others as well [21:49] out of those half use -devel, and the other half fall under the obscure category [21:49] and then there is gentoo [21:50] when I used them they didn't use -devel packages [21:50] hehe [21:50] kitche : sure they did. you just didn't install those [21:50] they assume you don't want to compile anything [21:50] or, didn't know how [21:50] hmm then how did I compile stuff on those systems then? [21:51] and most of the time they are right [21:51] super-st0ned (n=bart@85.17.130.250) joined ##slackware. [21:51] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Connection timed out [21:51] those includes (development header files) do not take up enough disk space to make it worth the trouble to separate them in to a separate package (IMO) [21:51] kitche : because gcc is not a -devel package [21:51] agreed [21:51] ananke: but gtk and them are [21:52] it's more work for packagers, and less-convenient for users [21:52] kitche : depends. and your anecdotical evidence doesn't change the fact that those distros use -devel packages [21:52] /dev/root 37468660 19059168 16506196 54% / [21:52] tmpfs 250164 0 250164 0% /dev/shm [21:52] /192.168.1.101/john 35625848 17546096 16270032 52% /mnt/smb [21:52] thrice`: is correct! (more work for packages & less convenient for users) [21:52] isn't that wonderful! [21:52] thrice` : most users don't need those packages. [21:53] yes, but the "disk space" savings is pathetic in these times [21:53] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-154-98-202.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] hell, i can't remember the last time i compiled anything on majority of my servers [21:53] /usr/include is 100mb here [21:54] I have 54mb here for /usr/local/include [21:55] umm. /usr/include is 139mb here [21:55] and 17mb in my /usr/include but then again I m not in linux [21:55] it's not just include files, but also libraries [21:55] right; don't try the argument that rpm distros do it to not "bloat" the system ;) [21:55] think I'll go grab the slackware iso though [21:55] thrice` : nobody used that argument [21:56] -devel packages contain libraries ? how do packages run, then, without libraries to link against? [21:56] drwxr-xr-x 258 root root 49152 2008-09-09 12:15 include/ [21:56] but getting back to the point, -devel packages include more than just the include files [21:56] i rather have complete packages with nothing left out [21:56] ananke: then they aren't just -devel packages then [21:56] thrice` : for example, -devel packages include static libs [21:56] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-29-236-240.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [21:56] drwxr-xr-x 258 root root 53248 2008-09-09 12:15 include/ [21:57] kitche : considering that a minute ago you believed that half of the distros didn't use -devel packages, i'm starting to doubt whether you know what those are used for [21:57] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) joined ##slackware. [21:57] -devel package will have include files, static libs, man pages, pkgconfig/etc crap, and more. [21:58] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) left irc: Client Quit [21:58] Action: piroko sneezes [21:58] yup, and i want it ALL! [21:58] which kind of hints that the user wont' be able to compile things. tons of configure scripts rely on pkgconfig output [21:58] Pig_Pen : sure thing. and some people don't want those [21:58] thrice` : yep [21:58] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] again, different target audience [21:59] some peopel would not care if they were installed or not [21:59] indeed [22:00] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:00] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [22:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] Nick change: athayde -> atha [22:03] what debian should do is make a keyword for apt or aptitude to install all -dev package for the installed system so you dont have to go on a scavenger hunt [22:03] mm in Fedora I onyl see two to three packages that are caleld -devel [22:04] Pig_Pen : that would be hardly useful to anybody [22:04] besides the perl packages of course [22:04] kitche : check for -dev [22:04] Pig_Pen : debian has a huge library of software. vast majority of users never have to compile anything [22:05] ananke: still only two packages at least according to the pkgdb [22:05] debian packaging is the worst / most confusing I've found [22:05] thrice`: agreed [22:05] there is a lot of stuff related to audio/video i prefer to build myself [22:05] but ananke you forget to mention that debian in fact blows [22:05] I need to try Debian/kfreebsd since they fibnally intergrated it just for kicks [22:06] kitche : i have no clue what you're looking at. i see 188 packages with '-devel' in their name for fedora 10 [22:06] ananke: I m looking at admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb [22:06] pirving : try #kiddie-section [22:06] kitche : and i'm looking at fedora/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages [22:06] kitche: i read that just the other day, a BSDish debian might be usefull [22:07] tyrael (n=bart@85.17.130.250) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] I got teh poison I got the remedy I got teh poison I got teh poison [22:08] Blah. Crappy experience [22:09] kitche : here is a sample: http://pastebin.com/d65c497bb [22:09] lns40: nice song :) [22:09] thumbs: ;) [22:09] The tragedy is how you're gonna spend the rest of your days listening to shitty music ;) [22:09] Pig_Pen: yes if you want a oddball system [22:09] lns40 : their latest album is actually quite decent [22:09] ananke: yeah I bought that :) [22:10] invaders must die... [22:10] lns40: I can't recall the name of the band. Only the lyrics. [22:10] thumbs : the prodigy [22:10] thanks. [22:10] oddball systems are my specialty :D [22:11] lns40: Hehe. I got that album two weeks before it was released without even realizing it -_- [22:11] I really need to address those short-term memory losses [22:11] piroko: lol [22:11] ananke: yeah I see it now guess I jsut never noticed before sicne back then it was just a few packages I neederd to install mainly [22:11] Did Eminem's new album leak yet? [22:11] O.o [22:12] kitche : and that's what most people experience - they don't need those packages [22:12] i am waiting for Curt Cobain to raise from the dead and make a zombie grunge band :D [22:12] Kurt [22:12] yeah [22:12] I want Eminems album :( [22:12] the smells like teen spirit guy [22:13] now I need pretty much all of the -devel packages anyways for stuff I have installed since some of the programs I like to use not [22:13] nirvana [22:13] I will buy it too.. but I want a leak heh [22:13] Blink 182 is coming out with a new album [22:13] Nirvana kicked ass. [22:13] Pig_Pen: they celerbrated hsi death anniversity the otehr day [22:13] unplugged! [22:13] pirving: With the same three chords? :D [22:13] Keep Together For the Kids is a good song by Blink [22:13] I just grabbed faith no more's album the other day. I had no idea it was so awesome [22:13] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] I had only heard "epic" [22:13] piroko : which one? [22:13] They have a few good tracks yes... But nothing too 'complicated' [22:13] there is a book called "The 27s" that talks about all the rock & roll stars that died young [22:14] paissad (n=paissad@41.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:14] I suppose the simplicity makes them fun [22:14] But anyways.. I can't wait for Em's new disc.. [22:14] Hopefully it's better than the shitfest that was Encore... [22:14] piroko : the album epic is on, angel dust, is great [22:14] ananke: the real thing [22:15] Thurin1: umm just watch his WE made You video then you say it's junkl or not [22:15] Faith No More? didnt they do that "Easy like Sunday Morning" (a Commodore song) and it was a hit? [22:15] piroko : ahh, that's with the previous lead singer [22:15] Pig_Pen : yes [22:15] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-154-98-202.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:16] piroko : epic was done by mike patton, who started leading faith no more with their next album: angel dust [22:16] paissad (n=paissad@41.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Connection timed out [22:19] ananke: Ahh ok [22:19] I'm trying to get more what.cd invites to spread around [22:19] i highly recommend angel dust. then you can venture into mr bungle... :) [22:20] mr. bungle... Is that based off the notorius lambdaMOO character? [22:20] what's what.cd ? [22:20] ananke: underground invite-only only-direct-rips only-high-quality-encodes music torrent site [22:20] Action: piroko breathes [22:21] piroko : ohh. like oink used to be [22:21] ananke: Exaaactly [22:21] piroko : got invites? :) [22:21] as to the lambdaMOO, not sure [22:22] ananke: I'm trying. I gotta hit 25GB upload to up my class. I'm at 8 right now :-/ [22:22] I wasted one of my invites on a friend of mine who just let his account go idle and die [22:22] I wanted to kill him [22:22] I don't think he understood what he had -_- [22:22] jeepster (n=jeepster@static-87-102-68-72.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:23] that's one thing i didn't like about oink - idle time would kill your account [22:23] But with what.cd if you donate (any amount) you get a status that makes you not idle-able [22:23] And you get a little heart by your name :D [22:26] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.61.108) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:28] I have all three slack cd's burned, and I want to serve them up via http so another host can install from it. Should I just copy the contents of all three cd's into one directory? [22:29] PELO (n=PELO@201-35-253-1.fnses700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:30] giuppy (n=giuppy@host12-164-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[22:42] that has to be the worst time of day i have heard of :| [22:42] zybr0n (n=Lisius@c-76-116-27-122.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] hey. i've hit a brick wall and i need some help [22:43] sledge hammer, 10 lb [22:43] zybr0n: Stop hitting the wall. Next [22:43] Action: andarius says use the sledge and go through it [22:43] paissad (n=paissad@41.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:44] reconstructive surgery [22:44] thx! i've got a smb share mounted in /srv/www/htdocs/music and when i try to access any files in that share via a browser, it doesn't download the file. i get a 0b file with the same name and extension. [22:45] and the download window shows it as complete [22:45] i verified that me mime.types file has the filetype included. but i can't think of anything else to look at. [22:45] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:46] i also ran chkdsk on the windows box that the server is pulling the share from and it found no errors [22:46] the logs ? [22:46] FriedBob (n=Fried@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [22:46] nothing in the error log. [22:46] and the access log? [22:46] the access log shows that the file was downloaded [22:48] zybr0n: EnableSendfile off [22:48] zybr0n: it's a common issue with files on nfs / windows shares [22:50] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@189.87.111.32) left ##slackware. [22:51] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-97-243.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [22:51] thumbs: thank you kindly. it's working. [22:52] you're very welcome. [22:52] thumbs: what causes this, what is sendfile etc. [22:52] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#enablesendfile [22:52] thank you as well. [22:53] no worries. [22:55] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:55] aBiNg (n=aBiNg@218.94.136.179) joined ##slackware. [22:56] harls (n=harls@c-98-204-57-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:58] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.133.170) joined ##slackware. [22:59] Man. I can't believe how friendly the slack channel is. I expected it to be more bsd-like. heh [22:59] paissad (n=paissad@38.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] mm slackware channel is like bsd channels [23:00] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.134) joined ##slackware. [23:00] So I found that my laptop harddrive would cause the host operating system to freeze on formatting as soon as it hit inode 170/280. So what does any self-respecting cheap hacker do? Format a partition to only take up half the drive of course. Buahahaha [23:01] dd or dban it [23:03] andarius: But as soon as anything touches the bad sector, the host freezes :-/ [23:03] freebsd, linux, openbsd, they all did the same thing [23:03] if it is that bad toss the disk out [23:03] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.184.59) joined ##slackware. [23:03] Action: piroko shakes his head vigorously [23:03] otherwise you can tell dd to carry on on error [23:04] andarius: It was causing hard lockups [23:04] Instantly [23:04] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:04] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:04] if a drive wont take to normal tools to keep it in use is plain silly [23:04] Action: piroko is a silly person [23:04] well, i am not. [23:04] I'm cheap, and I like crappy solutions to easily fixable problems. What can I say? [23:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:05] Oh, and did I mention I'm cheap? [23:05] a failing drive has no solution other than replacement [23:06] a failing drive will cause data loss [23:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:07] a failing drive will cause entertainment until I buy a new one ;) [23:08] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.44) joined ##slackware. [23:08] my status message frequently is "I live for the clicking sound of a dying hard drive" [23:08] thumbs: You can't have data loss when your data is redundantly backed up to 5 different machines :D [23:08] Well, I suppose you could... [23:09] data loss on that drive. [23:09] WHEN I BURN THAT SHIT DOWN [23:09] anyway. [23:09] thanks again thumbs take it easy folks. [23:09] zybr0n: Haha. Exactly what I was thinking [23:10] my redundancy plan includes a hermetically sealed drive that is stored underground. and anotherone that was shot into orbit. check me out. [23:11] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [23:11] my redundancy plan involves encrypting all my data and renaming them to porno video names and then distributing them on popular torrent trackers [23:12] Hodapp (n=angel@cpe-65-185-153-140.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Hodapp: Howdie [23:14] do I know you...? [23:14] Nah. Just being friendly [23:16] zybr0n (n=Lisius@c-76-116-27-122.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:20] Mean_Admin (n=chatzill@modemcable136.6-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:20] hi, I'm trying to copy my Linux OS to a new hard drive. I've cp -ax / to a new hard drive, anything else I should do ? [23:20] it's not slackware but I dont know where to ask.. [23:20] reall cp -ax / won't copy your linux OS really well ti will but not really [23:21] kitche: why is that ? [23:21] kitche: or rather, what should I do instead ? [23:22] well you need to install a boot loader now on the new hard drive tweak a few other things liek fstab and such [23:23] kitche: well I don't mind tweaking ftsb and mking a grub [23:23] is that all, fstab and grub ? [23:24] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.134) left irc: "Leaving" [23:24] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.74.44) left irc: Connection timed out [23:24] Mean_Admin: Try it and see ;) [23:25] piroko: hum okay, I guess ! [23:25] Mean_Admin: It's sometimes easier to win by trial and error rather than trying to cover all bases at once [23:26] piroko: all right but there isn't a massive base I am not seeing is there ? [23:27] Mean_Admin: Well I'm not sure if that command will copy all the files or not. Linux has special types of files that generally don't copy well from my understanding. [23:27] But who knows [23:28] hum okay so basically we don't know, I see [23:28] dd [23:28] Dominian: That isn't a good idea if the drives are different sizes/filesystems etc [23:28] uhh why? [23:28] Dominian: dd wil actually copy the whole 15 partition even though it's empty and that's just well, not possible [23:28] the whole 15GB [23:28] eh whatever you say [23:28] Dominian: Because it's a direct bit-for-bit dump [23:29] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-151-103-89.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] It knows nothing of files [23:29] dd would easily copy the entire thing over. as long as the size of the new drive is the same or larger it would work fine [23:29] yep [23:29] andarius: And they plan on using the same filesystem [23:29] so? [23:29] FS is irrelevant [23:29] er.. nevermind [23:30] He's wanting a clone from one drive to another.. FS makes no difference [23:30] if you want to clone it, dd is perfect [23:30] I wasn't under the impression he wanted to clone it to a drive of the same size. I figured there was a reason he was switching to a different hard drive [23:31] He said "copy my Linux OS to a new ahrd drive" [23:31] perhaps. but if you want to transition i would clone it then grow partitions [23:31] dd is the perfect candidate for that and is what its used for [23:31] correct [23:31] there are other ways but they are much more complex [23:32] do the hustle! [23:32] Dominian: no because existing partition is 15GB and new entire HDD is 10GB [23:32] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [23:32] so no go dd for me :( [23:32] There you go [23:32] Action: piroko does a backflip [23:33] and falls on his face [23:33] with that in mind then perhaps rsync and some creative work [23:34] like except grub, anyone know something that won't be copied over ? 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[23:53] Hi [23:54] hi [23:54] I use slackware 12.2 [23:54] ello [23:54] I inserted a mmc card in my laptop [23:54] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) joined ##slackware. [23:54] dmesg, shows an mmc0 [23:54] but how do I mountit ? there is no /dev/mmc0 [23:55] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.184.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] mmc0: new SD card at address 8fe4 [23:58] Hello ! [23:58] Mikey, chill. pastebin the output of: dmesg|grep mmc [23:58] Heh.. sure [23:59] http://slackware-fr.pastebin.fr/4051 [00:00] --- Sat Apr 11 2009