[00:00] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.162) joined ##slackware. [00:05] boy, someone mentions a senator in capri pants and the channel goes dead... [00:05] lol [00:06] Was it John McCain? [00:06] no, that would be reason to die [00:06] i don't even want to imagine what that looks like [00:07] it was boehner (sp?)... perhaps just as troubling [00:09] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:10] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Please can someone help me? This is my problem: http://pastebin.org/463851 [00:16] Mel-nix, is this a bash file you're putting together? [00:17] shonudo: No, I am just trying to send mail to another user. [00:17] It's probably a permission problem [00:17] permission denied... seems to be the problem [00:18] it's the only "error" showing [00:18] Mel-nix: look at /var/spool/mqueue/* [00:19] popl: I think that's the problem: drwx------ 2 root mail 4096 2010-05-23 11:06 mqueue [00:21] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:21] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [00:21] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:23] heh, brain dump. [00:24] Mel-nix: I mean check /var/mail [00:24] popl: So should I simply change the permission of the directory to 755? [00:24] Mel-nix: there should be a directory for each user inside [00:24] each one should be 660 [00:24] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:27] popl: All right. Currently it 650 for all. user:mail. [00:29] popl: Oops, 640. [00:29] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:32] Nick change: Reticenti -> Reti_zombie [00:34] popl: Do I need to logout and login to test? [00:34] no [00:35] popl: Still, the same error. [00:35] ??? [00:35] hmmmm [00:35] are the directories yours? [00:35] is sendmail covered in the slackbook? [00:35] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message! [00:35] shonudo: Which directories? [00:36] the ones your denied permission to [00:36] you're* [00:37] they aren't directories, I misspoke [00:37] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] I'm tired. [00:37] :P [00:37] ;) [00:38] Action: popl pokes shonudo's other eye to make it wink too [00:38] lol [00:40] shonudo: 640 mel-nix:mail for /var/mail/mel-nix [00:41] Mel-nix: is it working now? make sure sendmail is running too. [00:41] wait, nevermind. it's running based on that error message. man. [00:41] Action: popl gets caffeine [00:42] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:42] jhw (~jhw@p548D6F72.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:43] Action: shonudo gets a senator in capri pants who knows about sendmail [00:43] Thank god boner isn't a senator. He's just a rep. [00:43] oops [00:43] you're right [00:44] shonudo: If you're not careful I'm going to open up the Gimp and show you McCain in a pair of capri pants and Kerry in a pair of hotpants. [00:44] and yeah, thank god [00:44] popl, you have a strange sense of p0rn [00:44] lol [00:44] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.221.146) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:45] John Kerry is a man's man. [00:47] John Kerry shirks taxes on his yacht. [00:48] if you had said "skirts taxes" there would have been a couple of places to go with this... [00:48] Tax the Rich. [00:48] kill the poor [00:49] god save the queen [00:49] We do that already. Two wars. [00:49] tax the patient, eat the rich? [00:49] don't know how the queen got into it [00:49] you people need to listen to more music [00:49] Moar musique. [00:51] Action: byteframe hopes all these ineffectual congress people get the bed bugs. [00:53] ZMR (~Who@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Uh oh [00:55] 0_o?? [00:55] spaghettios? [00:55] lol [00:55] Got invited to a dung pile. [00:55] lmao [00:56] aka Slackofftopic [00:57] speakin' 'bout capris,byteframe...'parantly,there is A capri in a senate(state however) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capri_Cafaro ;*) hmm..same state as Boehner..wierd [00:58] hehe [00:59] no worries byteframe, you're banned from that "dung pile" now. ;) [00:59] That's ok. [01:02] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[01:31] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:31] sally: Thanks for the warm welcome! :-) [01:32] Ops, wrong channel! ;-) [01:32] what folder or its contents do i remove to clear all dolphin related content? The application seems to give me problems in my login, but works fine in another login... [01:32] * i mean i want to remove dolphin related settings [01:32] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.180) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [01:33] Nick change: stn -> stormtracknole [01:33] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:35] njathan: its in .kde/apps [01:35] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [01:36] pupit, i just found one in .kde/share/apps/dolphin.... just wondering if thats the only one or are there more [01:36] yup [01:37] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:37] wonder no more [01:37] pupit, aah.. found another in .kde/share/config/dolphinrc [01:38] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [01:38] oh yeah it has config too, forgot [01:38] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [01:40] removed both, but still the problem persists.. :-( dolphin takes ages to open.. [01:41] lol [01:41] njathan: seems you have kde issue [01:42] pupit, maybe yeah... gwenview too behaves similarly... [01:43] pupit, is there a way to find out exactly or fix this problem? [01:44] I don't use dolphin or kde, but are there settings for either in ~/.config/ ? [01:44] i'd put up a query in LQ without much success -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dolphin-and-gwenview-take-ages-to-open-820120/ [01:44] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-180.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks!! [01:45] njathan: go to console [01:45] yup [01:45] start dolphin and gwen from there [01:46] cant remember where kde prints out errors [01:46] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: look over there -----> its a plane! [01:47] here's what i see -> http://pastebin.com/a9xgkX4V [01:48] njathan: dbus error, run dmesg [01:49] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:50] pupit, output of dmesg is too long... is there something specific i can look for in it? [01:51] njathan: id backup the whole .kde somewhere, rm -rf .kde , then start kde, wait for errors. look for hal errors or dbus related.... [01:52] pupit, ok.. let me try that... [01:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [01:53] pupit, but before that, i have to admit i had upgraded kde-workspace from the patches directory of 13.0 recently (maybe this problem started after that... i am not sure) [01:54] pupit, so, is there a way i can downgrade kde-workspace and see it works ok? [01:54] downgrade it to the orig shipped version for 13.0 i.e. [01:54] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:56] i think i'll try both options from console and come back here.. thanks pupit :-) [01:57] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:57] Mowah (~tree@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:57] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:59] in most times, user remembers were it went wrong [01:59] s/were/where [02:02] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. 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[02:07] pupit, i just moved back to the orig shipped version of kdebase-workspace for 13.0 [02:08] it seems to work fine right now [02:08] but i'll monitor it for a while [02:08] this problem notoriously disappears when it knows i am watching it after some change :p [02:09] cache magics ;) [02:09] njathan: You may try with a new user ? Maybe the problem is nested in ~/.kde or ~/.config [02:10] It'll give you the way to explore :) [02:17] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:17] Skywise (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Skywise (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Changing host [02:17] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [02:19] hba (~hba@189.130.56.208) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:19] jewsce (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: IRC FOREVER [02:22] Kevin` (~kevin@etmalec.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:27] Action: byteframe uploads his first two youtube videos. [02:27] How the fluck did it know viacom had the rights? Scurry. [02:28] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-233.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:31] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] Nick change: RaNdY -> darkchild [02:34] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-208-135.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:35] Nick change: darkchild -> RaNdY [02:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.192.81) joined ##slackware. [02:35] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [02:35] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [02:38] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[02:54] sjamma (9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.153.98.203.69) joined ##slackware. [02:54] How much copyrighted content are you trying to upload? [02:55] 2 clips from the daily show. [02:55] how long are the clips? [02:55] You'd think it'd be culturally/politically relevant. [02:55] 7-8 mintues each. [02:55] Both instances of the micheal steele puppet. Should be shared. [02:56] it's not fair use [02:56] hmm [02:56] if you were using 20-30 seconds of it to illustrate a point, or if you cut it up to make social commentary then it would be legitimate. [03:01] I agree in principal, though (that Google is Evil). [03:01] They are as of today's news. [03:02] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:02] Which news is that? [03:02] The deal with verizon. I'll admit to not quite understanding all the specifics (nor do I own a mobile phone), but the rest of the internets is blowing up about it. [03:03] So you are making a judgment based on peer pressure? [03:04] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [03:04] ;P [03:04] Si. [03:05] If they need to schmooze over the FCC in all of this, I imagine a line is being crossed in terms of net neutrality. [03:06] Action: byteframe will have to be more disobedient, and get adblock to blank google ad words. [03:06] Incidentally, why the hell would anyone want FIOS if not for bittorrent? [03:07] streaming media [03:07] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:07] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] gotta get their porn faster [03:08] Bullspit, it's copyrights. No for to watch! [03:08] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-233.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:09] http://act.boldprogressives.org/cms/sign/google_evil [03:09] byteframe: I'm more worried about Google's collaboration with CIA. [03:09] Especially in conjunction with their Verizon deal. [03:10] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Be excellent to each other. [03:10] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Action: byteframe uses yabing! to search for that. [03:14] byteframe: online petitions are useless. that one in particular isn't going to influence Google at all. [03:14] I'd agree with that. They make one feel slightly better though. [03:14] how? [03:15] Therapeutic clicking? [03:15] What does that mean? [03:16] ARg.! [03:16] Me angry. I click on this! [03:16] Yes? [03:16] Adblock is a more effective here. [03:16] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] you guys need to stop bitching, we have no privacy, will never have it.. net neutrality will die along with our rights thanks to the patriot act and reasoning of the patriot act. go masturbate and sleep. good night [03:18] jeev, install slackware on your desktop. [03:19] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [03:22] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:23] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.26) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:24] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.26) joined ##slackware. [03:24] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:27] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:28] Bugz (~Bugz@75.42.68.163) joined ##slackware. [03:31] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:31] morning lads [03:31] morning phrag [03:32] Action: phrag got rudely awoken this morning by nagios... *entire* DC went down! [03:32] Olap (~Mass@85-169-74-55.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:32] ..turns out my college had brought up a XEN vm with the default gw set as it's IP.. broke many =P [03:32] collegue* [03:32] lol [03:33] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:33] colleague? [03:33] :) [03:35] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [03:35] fatalnix_ (~fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) joined ##slackware. [03:36] phrag: did you beat your colleague about the head and shoulders? [03:37] fatalnix (~fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:41] popl: well he's my boss... so no lol [03:42] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:42] that's no excuse [03:42] if you consume him you absorb his power [03:42] then you are the boss [03:43] Ongavezyr (d5dea7f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249) joined ##slackware. [03:43] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Hosanna bruderz [03:45] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:47] Hosanna? [03:47] Action: popl checks the topic [03:47] El il Allahu Akhbar [03:48] gesundheit [03:48] Ongavezyr: English please [03:48] alisonken1lap: he's being religious [03:48] yep [03:49] but it would be better to be religious in english so other people can at least understand what he's talking about [03:49] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:49] That's a matter of opinion. :P [03:49] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:50] archcezar (1000@acwi218.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:50] No problem brotha [03:50] someone pwned weirdal.com [03:50] Justice and freedom for palestina! [03:50] I've never heard of minicommand until now, though [03:51] reminds me of "While You Were Sleeping" and the scene when the family's in catholic church - grandma says "I would rather they held mass in Greek - at least then you don't understand it" [03:51] I'd rather people held mass under water. [03:52] :D [03:52] popl: kinda hard - americans are typically fat enough that they would float rather than sink [03:52] not if they held a mass [03:52] :P [03:53] haha [03:53] man, nobody gets my jokes [03:53] i did :P [03:53] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:53] archceza1 (1000@ajv41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:55] has anyone here ever come across minicommand? [03:57] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) joined ##slackware. [03:57] lauanana (~lauanana@ANantes-552-1-20-225.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:57] according to SANS it uses port 1050 but I am also reading that the orbd naming service runs on port 1050 too [03:59] lauanana (~lauanana@ANantes-552-1-20-225.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [03:59] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-186.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:59] revel0____ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [03:59] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Hola. How would I get nvidia drivers installed? Should I just use nvidia's installer? [04:04] EthanG: http://www.basicconfig.com/linuxtips/how_to_install_nvidia_driver_slackware_linux [04:05] Olap (~Mass@85-169-74-55.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [04:07] WhiteMagic (~white@client41-net214.acfr.usyd.edu.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:07] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message! [04:08] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [04:08] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-232.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:09] cheers popl [04:10] I just did a Google search and gave you the first result :P [04:10] well I actually checked slackbuilds.org first but I figured there was a how-to somewhere online [04:11] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:11] oh right. :D Well I'll remember slackbuilds.org [04:12] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.119.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:12] Axius (~fd@92.85.212.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:12] I'm a bit clueless about some things in slack actually. I'm used to querying the package manager for all sorts of things, and now I'm like "I don't know what I've got installed, help!" lol [04:13] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.119.165) joined ##slackware. [04:13] all your installed packages are listed in /var/log/packages/ [04:13] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [04:14] i guess slackpkg has a frontend for that [04:14] if you install slackpkg you can configure it to query remote repositories [04:15] slackpkg does not resolve dependencies, though, so you'll have to keep track of those yourself. [04:15] cool, ty [04:15] ah [04:16] coredumb1 (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [04:17] trhodes: I don't know how to list installed packages with slackpkg. [04:17] there's a bunch of tools behing pkgtools [04:17] trhodes: I know if you query a particular packagename you can find out if it's installed or not [04:17] to list, uninstall, or upgrade a package [04:17] btw, /var/log/packages contains all packages names installed [04:18] Zbouby: I said that already. [04:18] ah, oops :) [04:19] A couple of little scripts working on /var/log/packages will implement the sorts of queries I use [04:20] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:21] popl: you can always to "pkgtool" and select "uninstall" to see what packages are already installed [04:21] then cancel [04:21] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:21] Action: EthanG grins [04:23] if I want to only see 11 packages at a time in that tiny little dialog. [04:24] Viva Mr.Yasser Arafat the Great Leader ! [04:24] What's he done now? [04:24] Ongavezyr: take that elsewhere [04:25] phrag britha willkommt [04:25] britha=brotha, so sorry [04:26] alisonken1lap: also you need to have root privilege to run pkgtool [04:26] :) [04:28] Morn [04:29] morning Zordrak [04:29] phrag: he was trolling a couple of days ago [04:29] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:29] Zordrak: thanks mate [04:29] phrag: comes in.. talks shit, makes profane references to tux, PMs people and disappears [04:30] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:30] Ongavezyr kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: trolling [04:30] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [04:31] he's a known troll - used to be called "balzac" [04:32] name rings a bell... [04:33] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] "profane references to tux" lol [04:35] slackboy is slow [04:35] haha [04:35] only as slow as his masters =P [04:36] my landlady has a machine on the lan and it's probably compromised like a mofo [04:36] for some reason i read that as washing machine o.0 [04:37] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.211) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:37] ack :/ [04:37] syn_ack =) [04:37] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] lol [04:37] rst [04:37] :P [04:38] ack [04:38] phrag: http://www.reviewsonline.com/articles/981056056.HTM [04:39] ahaha, awesome [04:40] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:40] Action: EthanG waits for the first washing machine virus [04:40] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [04:40] 4Mbit flash! [04:41] when the landlady is watching digital tv it slows down the network [04:41] I don't see why Verizon has to be a little punk about that. [04:41] popl: can't you plug a router/box inline with QoS in place? [04:42] she'd never know! [04:42] you mean for the dvr? [04:42] what bandwidth do you have? I have 2MB/s & it's not really quite enough for real-time HDTV [04:42] no, it connects directly to the coax [04:42] whereas the network is ethernet [04:43] yeh, any less that 6MBit i think would struggle with TV + decent internet [04:43] EthanG: it's supposed to be 10Mb/s down and about 2 up [04:43] phrag: 3 is enough [04:43] yeh? [04:43] for full HD? [04:43] phrag: trust me :( [04:44] no.. for generic playpback [04:44] i was just guessing... dont have sky or anything [04:44] excuse the lag here [04:44] Hulu freaks out trying to do fullscreen 480p [04:44] my box is torrenting [04:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-62.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:44] Zordrak: usenet ftw =) [04:44] and its at home on my 3 down 1 up line [04:44] and i IRC from it [04:44] pirates :P [04:44] although that saturates your line if you dont limit it =P [04:44] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:44] so jeven though im at work with 100 down 100 up... im still lagging :) [04:44] raaar [04:45] Zordrak: yeh same... i lag like hell on the upload to home [04:45] although atm, i have *no* internet at home [04:45] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-178-83.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] Zordrak: if I understand right, a little QoS can go a long way in relieving torrent-related lag. YOu limit upstream to just a little below your cap [04:45] got to rely on work/personal phone.. although wifi tethering works a treat on android [04:45] people say internet when they mean internet access [04:46] EthanG: yeah, but I CBA.. it'll do as it is. [04:46] just like people say "I want to learn computers" when they mean "I want to learn Microsoft" [04:46] and email when they mean email account [04:46] mmhmm [04:46] acts as an access point and bridges it's 3G/HDPSA [04:46] popl: yeh, forgive my terminology, you know what i mean though =) [04:46] phrag: porquoi pas? [04:46] I do [04:46] Zordrak: sorry? [04:47] "Do you speak porpoise?" [04:47] only when drunk [04:47] phrag: why no t'int at herm? [04:47] Zordrak: oh, i've just moved into my new apartment =) [04:47] phrag: ah reet [04:47] are you asking why he's not a hermaphrodite? [04:47] o_O [04:47] been a hectic weekend... also been on call during the move.. without stable internet.. fun =P [04:47] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:48] phrano i'm preparing to spout UK ADSL advice as a previous shill of the resale corporates [04:48] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [04:48] damn lag [04:48] Zordrak: my boss brought up a VM at 8am and set it's IP as the *default gateway*... the entire DC went nuts [04:48] phrag: phun [04:48] ergh [04:49] phrag: did you ever find out why? [04:49] Zordrak: i'm going with BE... they seem stable and fast from their reviews [04:49] sudden moment of stark raving stupidity? [04:49] Zordrak: any advice for Cornwall? I might be moving there, lol [04:49] phrag: good choice. Thats mine too :) [04:49] popl: why he set the IP to the default gateway? ..boss fail =P [04:49] like a boss [04:50] EthanG: Its not region specific it's exchange specific [04:50] ah k... [04:50] i did however have to jump out of bed and race into work... ah good times =P [04:50] EthanG: buy a shot gun or you wont fit in =P [04:50] I hope he pays you well. [04:50] hehe [04:50] are you guys all British? [04:51] lol [04:51] popl: No. I'm English. [04:51] myself and Zordrak are [04:51] oooh [04:51] i'm British =P [04:51] Zordrak: English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish... [04:51] screw you communist pig :) [04:51] popl: you? [04:51] whatever :P [04:51] I'm half greek & I think the other half is more Polish than anything, but I was born in England lol [04:52] phrag: USian [04:52] in the heart of the evil empire [04:52] also dammit... 2 hours copying & it's copied 75G instead of 91, and I forgot to log the errors >.< [04:53] If I were to visit the UK I'd start in Scotland so I could get it over with. [04:54] popl: Scotland is wonderful.. it's just the Scottish people that aren't :) [04:54] If they are all like Frankie Boyle I can't wait. :P [04:54] haha [04:55] popl: No. Frankie Boyle is a posh little boy. [04:55] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:55] popl: let me put it this way.. the UN declared Scotland as the drugs capital of Europe [04:56] ahh, Glasgow's influence spreads [04:56] um, what does the UN know? :P [04:56] popl: obviously quite a bit [04:56] because they're right [04:57] is that where you go to score? [04:57] :P [04:57] I mean, otherwise how would you know that the UN is correct? [04:57] Yeah.. i drive 6 hours to do that. [04:58] popl: Education. Travel. All kinds of things you don't get much of in America :) [04:59] I've known people to drive longer distances. [04:59] now you're just being nationalistic, and silly. [04:59] No, it's called hyperbole :) [05:00] It's witty and self-aware. [05:00] according to WolframAlpha the US has 37.84 times the land mass of the entire UK. [05:00] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:00] :) [05:01] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:01] all land that was kindly donated by indigenous peoples [05:01] so kind of them [05:01] heh, UK too in a way [05:01] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [05:02] ... and everywhere except Africa [05:02] even Africa [05:02] tribes have been fighting for a long time [05:02] especially Africa [05:02] popl: O_o [05:02] 09:58:21 < popl> all land that was kindly donated by indigenous peoples [05:02] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:02] My point being that homo sapiens is indigenous only to Africa [05:03] heh [05:03] Axius (~fd@92.84.16.105) joined ##slackware. [05:03] No, that's not correct. [05:04] Go argue with Tony Robinson :) [05:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [05:04] origins debates... how can it not come down to what you want to believe, lol [05:06] Zordrak: The comedian? [05:06] Bassist (~bass_@mnch-5d857270.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [05:06] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:06] Hey all, how do I enable Composite effects in xorg 1.7.7? [05:06] Without creating xorg.conf [05:06] popl: He used to be. [05:06] I want to play around with Openbox a bit [05:07] popl: Now he's more of a presenter / archaeologist / anthropologist [05:08] Bassist: man xcompmgr [05:09] popl: lol [05:09] popl: Yeah, I was looking at that, but this guide I found says one has to enable composite effects in xorg [05:09] did you try xcompmgr? [05:10] http://crunchbang.org/tags/openbox/ [05:11] that person talks about using xcompmgr with openbox [05:11] Zordrak: I am behind on my British pop culture. [05:11] Zordrak: I haven't seen Mock the Week in over a month. [05:12] I had to look up the name Tony Robinson. [05:12] popl: TR has nothing to do with pop culture [05:12] popl: not since Maidh MArcian anyway [05:12] poplL: Alright, I'll check that out [05:12] you said he used to be a comedian [05:12] Thanks [05:12] *Maid Marian [05:13] oh HEY [05:13] is he the dude on that history channel show? [05:13] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:13] he looks like that dude [05:13] probably [05:13] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] damnit. I want to know the name of that show. [05:14] it's like renaissance faire [05:15] except he actually does the menial jobs and whatnot of the period, like it would be done [05:15] I remember him washing linens with urine for example [05:15] maybe it's the nose [05:16] oh yeah it is him! [05:16] http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-worst-jobs-in-history [05:16] :D [05:16] popl: right.. well he has also presented a number of shows regarding the origin of man and the life of the planet [05:16] If I have screen session opened in cli.How can I open another one in X? I've tried but it does not work. [05:17] Axius: connecting to the same session? screen -xr [05:17] Axius: you want to resume the screen session? [05:17] popl: yes [05:17] to boot off the console connection: screen -DR [05:18] Zordrak: So you're saying that's where you got the idea that H. sapiens is indigenous to Africa? ;P [05:18] (by boot off I mean detach it & close the console) [05:18] white (~white@203-214-143-206.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:18] white (~white@203-214-143-206.perm.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [05:18] popl: It's certainly not where I got the idea.. but Tony presents the information very well. [05:19] The idea, as you put it, comes from this weird little cultural clique called.. hmm.. what was it called [05:19] Oh yes. Science. [05:19] From what I can recall he seemed very whiny on The Worst Jobs in History. [05:20] wouldn't you be whiny, too, if you had to do the worst jobs in history ? [05:21] people are indigenous to terra firma. Humans are just meat sacks around our nervous system which has evolved over eons using different outside bits at different times. [05:21] To suggest that we are indigenous to anything less general than "planet Earth" is silly. [05:21] thanks [05:22] Right. Yeah, I was talking about real words. [05:22] Action: phrag is indigenous to this chair [05:22] Action: Zordrak goes back to work recovering that stupid legacy database [05:22] Zordrak: I was using real words. [05:22] trhodes: possibly [05:23] i suppose it's like saying what people do isn't "natural" [05:23] Bassist (~bass_@mnch-5d857270.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:23] there was a certain.. disjunction between the use of the word "indigenous" and the use of the word "people" [05:23] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:23] Axius: screen -raAd [05:24] i usually alias sdr=screen -raAd [05:24] -A resize all windows to current region ? [05:25] (as they are shown) [05:25] yes [05:25] i've had troubles with that in the past; like sometimes I want to leave another connected session's region size alone [05:25] (in multiuser) [05:25] EthanG: what do you mean? [05:26] trhodes: yeh? i'll bare that in mind, thanks =) [05:26] btw, i really like 4.1x screen better than stable [05:26] vertical splits are still a little rough though [05:26] (ie, not as nice as tmux in that regard) [05:27] i've not used tmux before [05:27] but tmux has its own set of... quirks [05:27] i just tried it [05:27] how does it compare to screen ? [05:27] and it's lighter on resources [05:27] it's definitely better about the vertical split stuff (vertical splits in screen were messing up both halves of the terminal) [05:28] ah, if i ever use split, it's horizontal.. [05:28] oh, tmux is somewhat mouse-aware [05:28] trhodes: How do you reattch tmux session? [05:28] and scriptable [05:28] tmux reattach [05:28] although i do use konsole mostly.. obviously not in CLI =P [05:28] pssh, screen is scriptable too [05:29] just not as nice [05:29] clickable panes are cool feature of tmux [05:29] but once they're clickable, i haven't figured out how to get scroll wheel to work within the panes [05:29] so, win some lose some [05:29] tmux is promising, though [05:29] popl: I'm not sure I'm making sense, but I meant the context was originally races displacing other races. If races are irrelevant and we're just talking about humans then ok they're indiginous to africa and to say humans displaced humans from africa... well, only fails to make sense if you have asperger's. if however humans are just evolving meat sacs ndigenous to planet earth, then so is every other animal and nothing has ever been displaced, whic [05:29] useless line of reasoning [05:30] Action: phrag does not follow this discussion [05:30] revel0_____ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:30] phrag: no worries, ignore me, lol [05:30] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] I've had about 2 hours sleep & too much comp fixing, lol [05:31] welcome to ##Slackware =P [05:31] konsole from 3.5 to 4.2-era kde was a shock [05:31] trhodes: yeh, it has definately improved in 4.x [05:31] :D [05:32] phrag, my dad hates it now :P [05:32] phrag, but he used a lot of the obscure features of 3.5's [05:32] i really like the auto-naming of tabs to remote host [05:32] phrag, i agree, though that it's improved [05:32] *essential* when you have 20 shells open =) [05:32] yeah [05:32] revel0____ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:32] trhodes: How do you have a example tmux config file? [05:32] losing obscure features you used is nearly cause enough to go on a rampage lol [05:32] haha [05:32] Axius, i haven't learned enough about it yet to have one [05:33] Axius, but there are loads online... check at github [05:33] trhodes: ok [05:33] my screenrc's hardstatus line broke from 4.0.3 to 4.1x [05:34] (probably something changed) [05:34] EthanG: But if "humans displacing humans" does not fail to make sense then neither does your other point. [05:34] I don't know what we're talking about, though. :P [05:34] what's the displacement of the average american ? :P [05:34] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [05:34] I'm starting to experiment with the idea that you should be able to roll your own 'obscure features' as needed, or rather I finally have the tools to do so. the plan9port tools with a sane regexp syntax and feature set - by 'sane' I mean you don't have to devote your attention to the syntax and features rather than to your script [05:35] lol trhodes [05:35] I still don't understand what Zordrak meant by "real words". [05:35] trhodes: laden or unladen? [05:35] lol [05:35] it's mostly Zordrak's statement I'm poking at. too tired to bother any more though [05:35] EthanG, that's why people like stuff like xterm and urxvt and all the highly-configurable and extensible programs out there [05:35] anyone use WoT (Web of Trust) firefox plugin ? [05:35] EthanG: I think he was being a troll. [05:35] EthanG: He does that. [05:35] ah :) [05:36] trhodes: Do you use github for your code? What other services can I use instead? [05:36] i don't really use plugins at all :/ flashblock / noscript mosltly out of necessity [05:36] Axius, not yet, i might get a free one soon though [05:36] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [05:37] Axius, not too sure about it, i'm sure googling will turn up a lot, and perhaps hanging out in a tmux irc channel / looking at blogs will turn up lots of features [05:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:37] s/features/configuration files/ [05:37] trhodes: I've used tons of highly configurable programs, and I've got sick of them. It gets ridiculous in the end, there's no end of configure options yet not enough of them; it takes insane amounts of time to set everything up... [05:37] popl: I'm busy, and the argument was devolving into a "say the same thing differently" situation.. so i ditched. [05:37] trhodes: thanks for your suggestions. [05:37] I have a stupid mysql3.23 database to play ith [05:37] *with [05:38] 3.23! [05:38] Zordrak: nuke it from orbit [05:39] Axius, you're welcome - btw i'm using the tmux that's newer than SBo's without problem (i wanted the join-panes command) [05:39] popl: im recovering it as a powercut nuked it on friday [05:39] its what we call a legacy production system [05:39] Axius, tmux (1.3 i think it is, vs, 1.1) depends on libevent now [05:39] ah [05:39] in that its an old piece of shit that barely works.. but people in the business believe life depends on it [05:40] it would probably be cheaper in the long run to just kill those people. [05:40] so long as i dont mind finding new people to pay me money [05:40] and just think of all the money you'd be saving them on car insurance [05:41] Zordrak, it had backups, presumably ? [05:41] trhodes: only as far as april [05:41] ouch [05:41] *as recent as* [05:41] yeah [05:42] so are you trying to get it back off the drive, then ? [05:42] (sounds difficult if so :/ ) [05:43] My boss stopped backing up our MySQL db before this quarter started and I accidentally nuked one column in an important table with a hastily edited select statement. I felt like such a winner. :P [05:43] haha [05:43] popl: you nuked it with a select? [05:44] er, update [05:44] mmhmm [05:44] :P [05:45] anyways he doesn't know the first thing about moving around in a unix environment so I had to setup a cron job to do backups after that. [05:45] then he emailed me about how he thought having current backups was "important". [05:45] *headdesk* [05:50] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [05:51] good morning [05:59] is there anyone who can explain how hdparm -t works? when i run a random read tool to benchmark, I get around 160 IOPS whereas after running hdparm -t on the device, it goes up to 4600 (with merged reads) even though I flush the buffer cache and disable diskcache+hddreadahead cache on the raid unit [06:02] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [06:03] johndee (~id@95-29-180-232.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:04] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:04] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-232.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:07] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:09] mindbender: tried using -Tt ? [06:10] -t does sequential read, not random read [06:11] Morning. 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[06:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:33] is there no 13.1 repo for sbopkg? [06:33] rirombo (~user@h232.6.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:34] of course there is [06:35] why does it only show up to 13.0 [06:35] check your repo settings [06:35] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [06:35] looks like i'm using an older version [06:35] tried setting 13.1 as the repo and couldnt find it [06:36] utilities -> repository [06:36] what version of sbopkg? [06:37] nophis (~nophis@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:37] nophis (~nophis@187.102.97.48) joined ##slackware. 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[07:09] I could seriously do without lost+found when migrating data between filesystems [07:09] you can delete it [07:09] oh good, ty :D [07:09] fsck makes it [07:09] right [07:09] well, i think you can make it with mkdir too [07:10] you can make it with mkdir but it comes up like a normal-sized dir [07:10] just make sure it's empty before you delete it :P [07:10] ya hehe [07:10] ah ok, yeah [07:11] I'm wondering if I should use another fs anyway. the data's backed up nightly, but there's only one backup.. [07:12] eh, no point. [07:12] slackie_ (~x@bl15-120-199.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [07:12] anyone had any trouble with ext4? [07:13] internet is full of people who had trouble with XYZ :) [07:13] true :) [07:14] I usually go with whatever I've heard the least horror stories about, lol [07:14] then again I used reiserfs for years [07:15] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:15] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) joined ##slackware. [07:15] so you use fat 16 then? hehe j/k [07:15] <_< [07:15] >_> [07:15] fat16 is a horror story :P [07:15] actually, yes XD I have a fredos partition. [07:15] unless you love small files and small hdds [07:16] mmhmm [07:16] no one would EVER need a gigabyte, let alone a Terabyte [07:17] myn (~myn@86.122.107.203) joined ##slackware. [07:17] thats just crazy talk [07:17] It'll take a slackware vmlinuz-huge-2.6.33.4 >_> [07:18] you use the huge kernel? [07:19] yeah, although I didn't really think about it. Only installed yesterday [07:19] I would not use that kernel on a regualr basis [07:19] oh? takes too much mem? [07:19] best to find out what you need, than build your own [07:20] oh aye, I've done that more times than I can count. It's got its good points I guess >_> [07:20] the huge has so much junk going on with it, I only use huge for testing new hardware [07:20] ahh [07:21] I dont think anyone in here uses huge as their main kernel [07:21] initrd is your friend [07:21] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:21] augh initrd [07:21] but keep it in your lilo, its a good backup if/when things go wrong [07:22] pointless hack of the millenium [07:22] ananke: depends on who you talk to :) [07:22] ohh yeah. i forget i'm in ##slackware [07:22] EthanG: pointless? quite the contrary. [07:22] hehe [07:22] myn (~myn@86.122.107.203) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:23] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [07:23] ananke: all right, what's the sense of going through all what loading and running an initrd requires when the modules could be built into the kernel? [07:23] EthanG: modularity. [07:23] mynick (~mynick@86.122.107.203) joined ##slackware. [07:24] mynick (~mynick@86.122.107.203) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:24] first of all, you're comparing two different types of drivers: built in and modules. there's already a big difference in functionality: you cannot load/unload drivers that are built-in on a whim [07:24] so you can remove a module which so desperately needed to be loaded at boot time it had to be done before the fs was readable. oh-kay [07:24] considering that the kernel left policy up to userspace, initrd's pretty much have to exist [07:25] what's the policy in this case? [07:25] EthanG: it's about the ability to use a small distro-provided kernel and pick your drivers [07:26] EthanG: you've been reading my blog haven't you ;) [07:26] well, I suppose that saves compiling a kernel, but not anything beyond that [07:26] and i'd love to continue, but have to run to work. bb in 40 [07:26] Zordrak: heh, no :) [07:26] all right, see ya [07:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:27] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:28] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:29] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] trhodes: I almost forgot to ask, what policy needs to be set in an initrd? [07:29] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] asamoah (~caio@190.244.50.73) joined ##slackware. [07:32] policy? it's only used at boot time to load initial kernel modules so the kernel can access the hard drives [07:32] unless lilo uses policy access, you don't have to worry about it [07:34] alisonken1lap: that's what I thought, but seeing as trhodes said the kernel's policy of leaving policy to user space made initrds a requirement, I thought I'd ask what on earth he meant [07:35] if you use a custom kernel that already has the drivers or you use the huge kernel that has everything and the kitchen sink, initrd's aren't necessary - I think trhodes was thinking of something else when talking "policy" [07:35] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:36] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [07:36] I don't think I've ever found an initrd necessary [07:37] they're all right for using a distro kernel with autoprobing [07:37] Sorry for jumping in the conversation but I have the impression that initrd was vital for encrypted partitions like truecrypt or LVM. [07:37] EthanG, why would it not be necessary? So many fascinating use for it. [07:37] aha! yes, you're right miss_riss [07:38] i mean boot policy [07:38] miss_riss: I've always found initrds a pain to build. granted, I haven't made one for years [07:38] the code that makes devices available to the kernel will never be in the kernel [07:38] Bottom line: There are times when it is necessary due to special conditions. When those conditions are absent an initrd is an unnecessary complication. [07:38] yes [07:38] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:38] EthanG, I thought it came pre-built of sort, in all Linux. [07:38] Unless you mean a very customized one. [07:38] yes I do [07:39] Oh. [07:39] I also really don't like the hacks it has to go through to get the root fs out of memory, if it can even do that any more [07:40] i think it can [07:40] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/the-evil-of-initrd/ [07:40] pivot_root, i think it is [07:40] i always mix up pivot and switch root :/ [07:40] Please be patient with it.. it's on my home server which has limited bandwidth and is currently hammering torrents [07:40] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] yeah, I expect there's a way. I thought pivot_root stopped working.. oh switch_root.. hmm, that's about when I gave up, when switch_root came in [07:40] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:41] I tend towards hyperbole, so obviously I don't really think it's evil.. but for the general day to day its a PITA. [07:41] sure, I run a server at home [07:41] yeah, it's an extra boot routine [07:41] so do I ^^' [07:42] I like the car analogy [07:42] i'm not anti-initrd (it's neat being able to fsck your root partition without a complete reboot) but it's is indeed redundant [07:42] I like the 2nd battery analogy i make in the second paragraph as i think its quite apt [07:42] s/it's/it [07:42] Nick change: v3gard_ -> v3gard [07:42] Zordrak, you wrote that! Of course you like it! [07:43] miss_riss: well yes.. but I mean it is my preferred method of explaining the point [07:43] :F [07:43] yes that one [07:43] I think I am running the huge kernel as well, isn't that the default kernel? [07:43] miss_riss: Yes [07:43] huge is convenient :) [07:43] yep :) [07:44] miss_riss: But the install guide (i think) clearly says that it is for installation purposes and should not be what you run every day [07:44] and it is right [07:44] Indeed, I use it and so far, taking out modules have actually caused my slackware vm to not boot. [07:44] Zordrak, it said that? Either way I run it / use it for my everyday purpose.. I guess.. I still have a lot to learn. Too scared to do some things. [07:45] but instead of the (still bloated) generic kernel and an initrd.. you should run a custom kernel.. which is easily achievable with the extremely simple 10 step guide on the same bllog [07:45] it's been a few years since I've been able to make a whole working kernel configuration in one go [07:45] Zordrak, yep, but still, you have to know what's needed and what's not. [07:45] it's easier to recycle the generic config [07:45] miss_riss: barely [07:45] EthanG, I thought everyone here could make their kernel edit in one go and I'm special. ;_; [07:45] and let The Man do most of the work. :P [07:45] miss_riss: all you really need to know is what your hard disk controller is and what your filesystems are [07:45] awww :) [07:46] Is there a noticeable advantage to customizing the kernel like that over just sticking with the generic one? [07:46] Zordrak: nic, display driver [07:46] D1ver: Yes [07:46] NaCl: all modules [07:46] kk [07:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420423.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [07:46] Zordrak, wait, what noticeable advantage? I was told that boot up speed, aside from rc.d, isn't really influenced by the kernel. [07:46] NaCl: my guide starts you with the generic plus your hard disk needs... then after youre free to strip what you please [07:46] aren't modules slightly slower when loaded rather than built-in? [07:47] no [07:47] miss_riss: boot up speed is irrelevant since most machines i run go hundreds of days between reboots [07:47] it's a one-time penalty [07:47] there's overhead in loading them [07:47] oh.. [07:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420423.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:47] ahh ok [07:47] Wait, so what are the noticeable advantages? [07:47] faster boot times [07:47] lol [07:47] mmm it'll be nice to get back to months of uptime [07:47] and the code can be optimized internally to your CPU [07:47] miss_riss: the obvious initial advantage is RAM usage [07:47] Haha, that's reversed. [07:48] miss_riss: but processor specific optimisations and the lack of general bloat aid overall responsiveness [07:48] Damn. [07:48] I'd have to learn to back up the kernel that I work on too. [07:48] miss_riss: no need.. you dont overwrite it [07:48] you can leave it in /boot [07:48] I managed to build 2.6.35 but i just copied the current cofig, was to scared to actually change anything hehe [07:49] miss_riss: you add an extra one and just point at it [07:49] Zordrak, well.. if I re-install Slackware, ya know. [07:49] Action: EthanG notes down link to Zordrak's blog, will get to it in a few days [07:49] miss_riss: Seriously it soundl like you could do with reading through the guide to see just how little you need to know [07:49] also, boot is quite simple [07:49] miss_riss: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [07:50] oh what D1ver said reminds me, I started my last linux install with a debian kernel (it was source mage linux), and slowly modified it as I upgraded [07:50] Zordrak, :) Thank you, I will re-read it then. [07:50] np [07:50] revel0______ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:50] 2 days and it should be faster again... got a bunch of stuff torrenting hard [07:51] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:51] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [07:51] revel0______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Is this argument similar to the swapless setup? I haven't really noticed any difference. [07:52] no [07:52] swaswap is usually completely untouched and so doesnt make much difference.. the kernel is the core beating heart of the system [07:53] !? [07:53] Could it be that I'm doing everything wrong?! "make mrproper" I do make menuconfig. [07:53] miss_riss: read the WHOLE thing first. [07:53] make mrproper is the first cleanup stage [07:53] then you enter the config with make menuconfig [07:54] Oh, sorry. 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[09:03] miss_riss: t [09:03] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:03] Zordrak, would what I do on a vm slackware be the same as I on this? [09:03] ;_; Did you just stick yo' middle finga' at me? [09:03] miss_riss: *exactly* the same [09:03] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Cause son, I'll mess you up. [09:03] Oh. :D Okay. [09:04] miss_riss: no it was "tx" with a missing x [09:04] lauanana (~lauanana@ANantes-552-1-85-178.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] :) [09:04] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:05] ElectRo` (~ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] lauanana (~lauanana@ANantes-552-1-85-178.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:08] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:11] alienBOB: http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/10/kde-releases-development-platform-applications-and-plasma-workspaces-450 [09:11] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:12] lol [09:12] I'm still laughing at this part though - If you choose anything other than menuconfig you are insane and will be shot when the new world order comes to fruition. [09:12] So why suggest xconfig or config and why are they even an option? [09:13] hahaha [09:14] oh that's a point, Eagle Mode includes a kernel configurator. I could try it, seeing as EM has done wonders for my filesystem organization [09:14] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Still, kernel processor family "Q6600" is the google search I have now, it doesn't give the famiiy name. [09:15] meh [09:15] that's an intel core 2 quad.. hmm... [09:15] (I have one) [09:15] No meh'ing allowed! [09:16] That's what I have too, trying to find the fam name. [09:16] I doubt I still have my source mage configs [09:16] miss_riss: its a core 2 right+? [09:16] Core 2 Quad yepl. [09:16] yep [09:16] so choose "Core 2/newer Xeon" [09:17] type a question mark while hovered over it for the full desc [09:17] KDE 4.5.0 released. Do we get it in -current soon? [09:17] "Select this for Intel Core 2 and newer Core 2 Xeons" [09:18] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426927.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] Zordrak, what.. happens if you choose another option? [09:20] miss_riss: it depends which option you choose [09:20] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left ##slackware. [09:20] if you choose generic x86 then it will work but more slowly [09:20] miss_riss: if you choose k8 it might not work at all [09:20] so choose the right one [09:21] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:22] I'm trying to choose hte best one to match my host system. [09:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach [09:22] OOPS. I mean:sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -hda environment.img -m 512 -soundhw all -smp 4 -cpu host -no-acpi -snapshot -localtime -boot c -usb -usbdevice tablet [09:22] What do you think of that? [09:22] I didn't notice a speed difference when gcc gained specific optimizations for the core 2 series, when I was using source mage. Not only that, but everything took longer to compile [09:23] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Action: miss_riss dances. [09:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:28] Okay so I opened up tons of stuff. I think swap is useful now, now that I'm monitoring all this. [09:29] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-117.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:30] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:32] But... but.. "go down to High Memory Support and change it to 64GB. Dont argue, just do it." [09:32] ;_; Really? [09:33] Also. [09:33] Zordrak, your analogy sucks. Bananas? Pears? lol [09:37] Also "its all downhill from here.", downhill usually means bad news. [09:37] hehe [09:38] "What 20th Century U.S. President was almost impeached and what [09:38] office did he later hold?" [09:38] Clinton [09:38] and I don't know lol [09:38] But it said what office did he LATER hold? [09:41] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:41] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.25.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:42] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:42] Action: NaCl waits for KDE 4.5 and alienBOB to make packages of it [09:42] OngaWizirka (d5dea7f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249) joined ##slackware. [09:42] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:42] OngaWizirka kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: trolling [09:42] woo [09:43] yay slackboy [09:43] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.161.64) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:43] I had to tab four times to get to slackboy. :P [09:44] when will there be kde 4.5 packages ??? [09:44] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [09:44] first of all i'll try the kde live cd [09:45] NaCl: i think alienBOB is on vacation or something. at least he told me that he wont be around to package kde 4.5 when it gets out [09:45] nooooooooooooo [09:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.188.5) joined ##slackware. [09:45] dont remember his exact words though [09:45] The whole of The Netherlands goes on holiday at the same time [09:45] What's so special about 4.5? [09:45] thats obviously overstating it.. but makes my point [09:46] alienBOB lives in Netherlands? [09:46] heheh, 1 month of summer eh? [09:46] Something I'm dealing with as a UK employee of a Dutch company [09:46] Action: surrounder pissed he's still working :P [09:46] Zordrak: for which company ? [09:46] oh netherlands, why did I think norway [09:50] probably we wait for KDE 4.5.1 instead [09:50] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:51] EthanG: that's not the first time I see people make that mistake, I don't get it though :P [09:51] Wait, why are you guys so anxious on 4.5? [09:51] What's new? [09:51] ah ^^; [09:51] probably because it's new and shiny? :P [09:52] bug fixes I hope, my X/KDE crashes with the latest nvidia 256.44 driver... I'm hoping for a whole xorg and kde update... if I am lucky some update will fix my crash [09:52] Mine doesn't crash and I use the same driver too. [09:52] me too [09:52] Why is my life so harmonious with Slackware? [09:52] It's so.. perfect. [09:53] :D [09:53] what nvidia cards do you use with 256.44? [09:53] 9600 [09:53] nvs140 on my laptop [09:53] rirombo (~user@h232.6.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Zordrak, what do you think of http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-run-a-command-when-boots-up.html ? [09:55] miss_riss: do you use slackware64-current with multilib? [09:55] No. [09:55] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] miss_riss: slackware 32bit? [09:55] Yepp! [09:55] oh damn [09:56] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:56] 64-bit here, and nvidia [09:56] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:56] EthanG: with multilib too? 256.44 works ok? what video card you got? [09:56] pure 64bit here [09:56] haven't installed nvidia drivers yet, and 8600 [09:57] and don't know nuffin about multilib, lol [09:58] with 256.44 driver, I get this message, then a backtrace: [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. [09:59] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] ah 'k :/ [10:00] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:02] I got many infinite loops with the latest nvidia driver too. [10:02] windows, and linux. [10:02] but i heard linux can run an infinite loop in 5 seconds [10:03] løl [10:03] nvidia was so stable for years and then some people came along and started 'improving' X [10:04] it was ati [10:04] oh, not intel? [10:04] ati has to have the most incompetent software developers in the free world [10:05] we got composite out fo the deal, but meh [10:05] ah, ok :) [10:05] and they're working for nividia now [10:05] oh damn [10:07] nvidia drivers used to work for every product on every os [10:07] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [10:07] yeah! [10:08] miss_riss: i think its irrelevant [10:08] miss_riss: its an article on how debian doesnt have an rc.local.. but since slackware does, thats what you'd use [10:08] Zordrak, I need to run modprobe kvm_intel everytime I use qemu but might as well boot up with it. [10:08] OH. Shoot. [10:08] I totally overlooked that. [10:08] miss_riss: then... put it in rc.modules [10:09] Yea I know. Thank you. Sorry. [10:09] which is where you put calls to load modules at boot in slackware [10:10] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:12] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:13] http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Vulnerability-in-OpenSSL-1-0-x-1053147.html [10:14] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.25.237) joined ##slackware. [10:16] ? 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[10:32] Why is openchrome working with slackware 13.0? this is my xorg.conf file:http://dpaste.com/227097/ [10:32] Why is not working openchrome with slackware 13.0? this is my xorg.conf file:http://dpaste.com/227097/ [10:34] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:36] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:38] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:38] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [10:41] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:42] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] rchansen (~rchansen@ppp-70-242-159-222.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:45] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:56] you never heard that in movies [10:56] *hear [10:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:57] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:57] one of our DC's decided to unplug our SAN..without informing us o.0 [10:57] nice :-/ [10:58] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:00] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:00] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) joined ##slackware. [11:02] dudu (~dudu@unaffiliated/dudu) joined ##slackware. [11:02] dudu (dudu@unaffiliated/dudu) left ##slackware. [11:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:04] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:09] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:10] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: see ya! [11:11] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:12] Has anyone tried MeeGo? [11:13] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Zordrak, I have 4gb, should I still do 64gb? It says off, 4gb, 64gb. [11:15] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:15] Hoedy [11:15] Hi arfon. [11:15] howdy, I meant [11:15] Hi lfjob :) [11:16] Oh in that case technically it's "riza" on irc and rhisa on my website.. [11:16] :3 [11:16] So, no longer lfjob? [11:17] I am. [11:17] Still. [11:17] :( [11:18] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:19] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.24.100) joined ##slackware. [11:20] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.25.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:23] This sux.... [11:23] Let me turn into a whore. [11:23] Someone got a block of Virgin Mobile addresses klined and I can't connect directly because of it. [11:24] THAT caught me off guard. [11:24] What caught you off guard? [11:24] And :( [11:24] miss_riss, theres really too much competition [11:24] I use virgin mobile too. [11:24] Skywise, whoa, how would YOU know? ;) [11:24] they're all over the street [11:25] and on tv [11:25] Oh haha. [11:25] Sky needs to cut down on the RuPaul Drag Races... [11:25] nah, they're worse then housewives [11:26] i can't stand bitches [11:26] I love mine.... BEST DOG EVAH [11:26] I guess I don't need, for example, Dallas's 1-wire support right? [11:27] Oh shoot, I can't turn it off. [11:27] Riza, are you connected through VM now? [11:27] No. [11:27] But my second slackware is. [11:28] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Ah, have to tried to connect to freenode using VM recently? [11:28] No, I didn't setup network, but why would I? [11:29] Was that towards me? [11:29] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Yup. [11:29] I didn't setup network with the vm. [11:29] OH! So you only use the voice service.... [11:29] For virgin mobile I use only the cell phone. [11:30] I don't use them for internet. [11:30] I'm using VM's broadband2go and it's been klined by freenode. [11:30] :( [11:30] Yeah, it sux [11:30] Yeah it could be that they don't like open proxy and that could be seen as one. [11:30] wertik_rus (~wertik@194.186.53.45) joined ##slackware. [11:30] I've been connecting through it this whole time (until yesterday) [11:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@194.186.53.45) left irc: Client Quit [11:32] Anyone wanna chat about Samba? [11:32] What about it? [11:32] Why does it not work. :( [11:32] (on my box) [11:33] because you configured it wrong ? [11:33] Skywise, did you customize your kernel too? [11:33] Configuration is the issue 95% of the time arfon. [11:33] The other 4% it's network issue. [11:33] And 1% is unknown. [11:33] Me configure it wrong??? no way! [11:33] I'm 1337 [11:33] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-curelezxiwtxhyri) joined ##slackware. [11:33] arfon: teehee [11:34] I have two shares.... one public, one private.... [11:34] time for leave work and enjoy a beer [11:34] gotta love beer [11:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:34] If I set global security to anything other than share, I can't log in. [11:34] surrounder: ;) [11:34] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:35] eh, I'm already tired of talikng about it... [11:35] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:36] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:38] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.101.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:38] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.101.141) joined ##slackware. [11:38] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Gah! what's the irc/irssi command to ignore the joins/parts? [11:39] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:39] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [11:40] \o [11:40] arfon: /ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS [11:40] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Action: arfon hugs thumbs [11:41] revel0_______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Action: Oak hugs arfon [11:41] Is that an IRSSI, IRC or Freendoe command? [11:41] arfon: irssi. [11:41] Action: arfon puts that in his wiki [11:41] arfon: in my universe, there is no other IRC client. [11:42] arfon: you can also restrict those to a specific channel. [11:42] I get some errors When Slackware boot:/etc/rc.d/rc.local: line 12: /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register: Permission denied / What should I do? [11:42] revel0______ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:42] What's the command to restrict? [11:43] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249 expired. [11:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:43] arfon: add the channel at the end. [11:43] Axius: what's rc.local calling [11:43] Is there any way to get ppp to add a route when it starts up? [11:43] arfon: #foobar [11:43] Ok, now, how to unignore? [11:43] rtfm [11:44] arfon: /unignore [11:44] wut? [11:44] TY [11:44] arfon: /help ignore /help unignore [11:44] serious... go learn to use IRC [11:44] That's what I'm doing [11:44] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.24.180) joined ##slackware. [11:44] arfon: with reading materials [11:45] Action: arfon needs pictures. [11:45] then irc isn't for you... try facebook [11:45] haha [11:45] \o phrag [11:45] o/ fire|bird =) [11:45] Redb3ardLynx doesn't do java... No FB for arfon [11:46] przemoc: This is the code that I put in rc.local:http://dpaste.com/227121/ [11:46] sjamma (9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.153.98.203.69) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:46] Redb3ard: I wrote a script to fix dns and start ppp, you could do that for your route prob. [11:46] phrag: : This is the code that I put in rc.local:http://dpaste.com/227121/ [11:46] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.24.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:46] Does ppp call any script on success? [11:47] how can i see if my VPS server got xen PV or HVM ? [11:47] I believe pppd does Redb3ard [11:47] correction: I believe pppd CAN [11:48] v4nelle (~van@78-189-18.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:48] phrag: What shoukd I do to fix the problem? [11:48] arcsky: you can check if it's xen capable [11:48] But, it was easier for me to write a Bash script that fires off ppp and then fixes the resolv.conf [11:49] phrag: i know its xen but not which one [11:49] arcsky: grep control_d /proc/xen/capabilities [11:49] phrag: its empty [11:49] arcsky: xen-detect [11:50] should get something like.. Running in PV context on Xen v3.1. [11:50] arcsky: that would suggest it's not xen capable (as a Dom0) [11:50] balloon capabilities privcmd xenbus [11:50] I can't find shit on it that's not 15 years old. [11:50] Has anyone a suggestion to fix that problem? [11:50] Ugh. [11:50] ooh, no idea about that.. you using xen server ? [11:51] THAT was my prob Redb3ard [11:51] Nick change: miss_riss -> risarisarisa [11:51] ls -la /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register [11:51] That's why I let a script do it and gave up on 'being cool' with pppd. [11:51] Axius: ^ [11:51] phrag: --w------- 1 root root 0 2010-08-10 18:41 /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register [11:52] Axius: probably needs read access [11:52] I need to set a route when this starts. I've got it where it restarts itself if it dies, but by then it's smashed the route it needs... so the connection is worthless. [11:52] chmod 700 /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register [11:53] Redb3ard: you could cron route refreshes ? [11:53] risarisarisa (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: risarisarisa [11:53] gtg o/ [11:53] Cron isn't the ideal solution, but I might. [11:53] phrag: ok, thanks [11:53] It just seems that pppd itself ought to let you set a route. [11:54] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] You can do all of that with pppd scripts but good luck and finding that info. [11:54] Mowah (~tree@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Nerds like to write cool sh!t but hate to document... [11:55] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) joined ##slackware. [11:56] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:56] wdyy_ (~wdyy@123.80.24.199) joined ##slackware. [11:57] wdyy (~wdyy@123.80.24.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:57] I still get the error I rebooted my machine :/etc/rc.d/rc.local: line 14: /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register: Permission denied / [11:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.192.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 266 seconds [12:02] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.219.10) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Buried at the bottom of a man page... if you have something that's +x named /etc/ppp/ip-up it will execute it. [12:02] Seems to work. [12:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Nice! [12:04] Did you ever get the SS from the MC760? 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[13:11] SpartanVI (~ubuntu@168.9.27.3) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:12] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:12] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Axius_ (~fd@92.85.209.20) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Axius_ (~fd@92.85.209.20) left irc: Client Quit [13:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-174-113.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:14] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-247-47.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] How to open aterm? [13:18] what desktop? [13:19] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.150) joined ##slackware. [13:19] if windowmaker, type "aterm" in an xterm and dock the icon that comes up so you don't have to launch it from an xterm next time. Otherwise I wouldn't know [13:22] EthanG: I use fluxbox. [13:22] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] I've typed aterm in xterm and nothing comes up. [13:22] Axius: I guess you'll want to edit the apps menu to add it, then [13:22] oh maybe it's not installed :s [13:24] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d000c6b.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:25] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [13:25] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:26] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.219.10) joined ##slackware. [13:26] lol i called the wrong number, it's like "hey baby wanna blow your load?" [13:27] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:29] call your sister on accident? [13:30] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:08] honestly i never checked, sorry [15:09] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [15:10] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-175-154.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:16] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [15:16] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-175-154.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:17] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] errordeveloper, ldd would probably tell you [15:17] mtl (mtl@bnc.pox.fi) joined ##slackware. [15:18] ah ..that's right :) [15:24] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:25] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.188.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:27] Axius (~fd@92.85.209.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:29] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:49] for compat32, i mean .. [15:50] not that I'm aware of [15:50] compat32 is an alienBOB project, not part of slackware proper [15:51] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@bl14-214-248.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:52] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@bl14-214-248.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Changing host [15:52] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:53] alienBOB: hey .. [15:54] alienBOB: are you around? [15:54] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) joined ##slackware. [15:54] errordeveloper, the guide is quite specific about what to do with slackpkg [15:54] yeah ..ok, well it will do for now [15:54] this machine is not on -current [15:56] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:03] anyone know the multi-GPU support status with XRandR? [16:04] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [16:06] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [16:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [16:07] so, guys, help an honorable and true man out: do dual cores have more cpu registers than normal single core cpus? [16:08] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-94-228.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:08] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-114-174.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] bigpaws (~bigpaws@173-86-69-124.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:15] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [16:15] yesyes: no. no. [16:16] adaptr: thanks and thanks! [16:16] yesyes: each core is a complete execution unit. it includes registers, instruction pointers, stack pointers, cache, a FPU, etc [16:17] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:17] To the passenger who called mean , you. [16:17] you got pwned on the bus ? [16:18] slashdot idle story. 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[16:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:54] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-17-167.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:56] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:57] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-11-199.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:58] adasqers (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [16:59] iDanny (iDanny@5ad2fcb5.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-iewahbrquywetbfd) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:00] m3tti` (user@p57B7DE81.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [17:01] what chat client/server could i use internally for a local network?(slack server w/ windows clients) [17:02] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Barnabyh_ (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:03] adasqers: I guess you can use BitchX (or any chat client) and just install an irc server for the server for your intranet [17:03] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@81.141.48.117) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] chomping: thanks. i was thinking the same thing, i asked around first just to check if theres a specific program for an intranet chat. thanks [17:08] adasqers: I think there are other options, but I do like that way because you have an IRC and has the availability to operate the way you want in your chat inside intranet. [17:08] Why not use talk? [17:09] Yeah, there are others indeed. [17:10] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [17:13] anyone made the move from xinerama to xrandr? [17:14] jhw (~jhw@p548D6F72.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] not me jgeboski [17:14] :/ [17:15] arfon, some of the machines are running windows [17:15] arfon: I upgraded slack on a machine running multi-gpus and now running xorg 1.7.7 from 1.6.3 presented more issues than i'd like [17:16] I don't know his exact needs but, if they are connected into the Slack server, they can chat between users on the server... [17:17] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:17] That's how my friend and I 'IM' each other during the day [17:18] Is there a way to regenerate the devices in /dev/snd/ ? Mine got lost. [17:19] reload alsa drivers ? [17:19] they lost their way :) I've been all over town looking with a torch but not there :} [17:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] these file are automatically generated by udev, it's depending on how successful the loading of the modules is. [17:20] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] Aah, so it's a udev issue? [17:20] maybe, maybe not. [17:20] you know your soundcard model ? [17:21] I reinstalled alsa, nothing [17:21] yes [17:21] rirombo (~user@h232.6.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] alsaconfig did'nt anything for you ? [17:21] nophis, it doesn't see them [17:22] hmmmm .. you may verify that the modules corresponding to your card are compiled .. nop ? [17:22] *nope [17:22] did you performed a depmod ? [17:22] euh .. perform* [17:22] good idea, thanks [17:23] Action: Zbouby is not allowed to smoke indoor, so .. I'm right back in 5 minutes ;) [17:24] ok [17:24] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:24] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:25] hey arfon [17:25] i was planning on smoking [17:25] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] wrong chan [17:26] Thanks for the update yesyes [17:26] no problem, arfon! [17:27] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:27] Barnabyh_: I'm back .. so what depmod -a made ? no more detection in alsaconfig ? [17:27] Let me kno if you're going to the bathroom also... [17:27] :) [17:27] i could set up a justin.tv thing if you want [17:27] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:27] just avoid poop things ;) [17:27] :) No thnaks... [17:27] thanks [17:28] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-94-228.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:28] can't please them all i guess [17:29] iDanny (iDanny@5ad2fcb5.bb.sky.com) left irc: Quit: Your Tears Don't Fall, They Crash Around Me <3 [17:29] rirombo (~user@h232.6.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:31] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:32] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Quit: Saindo [17:33] adasqers (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:33] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:34] Hi Zhouby. depmod -a, no output [17:34] alsaconfig command not found [17:35] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-19-22.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-17-167.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:35] good for depmod .. no news, good news. [17:35] are you root? is the package installed? [17:35] oops .. its "alsaconf" [17:36] and, run it as root. [17:36] I noticed asound.state looking rather odd [17:36] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:37] sorry, wait aminute please [17:37] has anyone managed to get torus-trooper to work on slackware ? [17:37] asound.state is juste the backup of your parameters stored by alsactl [17:38] deco: hmm never tried in fact. [17:38] Zbouby: it's a great game :3 [17:38] oh now you say that, I watch a video, I already played to that years ago [17:39] oh heh [17:39] Zhouby, so how about a line like this after several entries [17:39] so, I can say I managed to get it working. [17:39] :o [17:39] '0fff000f000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 and more 0's [17:40] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [17:40] I have the same for some controls Barnabyh_ [17:40] imho you can rm this file without issues [17:40] Ah, thanks. [17:41] but it wouldn't prevent any module's probing. [17:41] the most thing you coul'd get is a bad tweaking of your volumes ;) [17:41] could* [17:42] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:42] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-94-228.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:42] I'm going to reboot just to be sure, perhaps alsaconf did the trick. [17:43] deco: I can't remember if it was a binary or source package .. [17:43] thanks so far [17:43] Barnabyh_ (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Disconnecting... [17:43] Zbouby: it's binary, not opensource says so in the readme :/ [17:43] i try to run the binary but nothing happens [17:43] no error or anything [17:44] ok, so license works better than my bare memory ;) [17:44] just says no file or directory [17:44] haha [17:44] hmm looks like a bad executable format. [17:46] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] $ ./ttrooper [17:46] bash: ./ttrooper: No such file or directory [17:46] same issue :) [17:46] anybody good with smb/cifs? having "operation not permitted" when mounting a windows share [17:47] admboom: Keys expired ? [17:47] or juste operation not permitted ? [17:47] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Read error: No route to host [17:48] deco: It looks like source is bundled in that damn src/ folder ;) [17:48] Zbouby: yeah but i need a d compiler i think [17:48] yep, ant is also required ... [17:48] not a small piece :) [17:49] Don't you want to install a slackware 12.1 ? :D [17:49] hahaha :S [17:49] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] Zbouby: debain has debs for it :S [17:50] get the deb and explode it ? Maybe it would work .. ( pretty ugly hm ? ) [17:50] Zbouby: yeah i guess i'll have to do that eeek [17:50] the last chance ;) [17:51] I must go to bed if I want to go to work opening my eyes ... [17:51] so, ++ :) [17:51] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:51] see ya Zbouby [17:51] :) [17:51] oh Barnabyh .. so ? wazza ? [17:52] Zbouby: cannot find mixer: No such device [17:52] hmmm [17:52] OSS only [17:52] oss ?? [17:52] oss can't work without alsa [17:52] indeed, oss is emulated by alsa .. it's not the real oss ;) [17:52] Yes I can get the OSS mixer, but no alsa [17:52] juste an abstraction layer [17:53] what's your runlevel ? [17:53] 4 ? [17:53] true, I've got alsa-oss installed [17:53] yes 4 [17:53] have you added your user in the sound group ? [17:53] hm, audio group*, sorry [17:53] it should be there, let me check, it was there before the upgrade [17:54] take a quick look to lsmod|grep snd, to see if drivers are loaded .. anymay. [17:54] anyway* [17:55] yes it is member, and I get the same problem as root [17:55] ok, not a permission issue ;) [17:56] this is tough [17:56] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:56] I think we'll manage to kick ass ;) [17:57] askdjghsa (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [17:57] do you remember which module your old version used to load ? [17:57] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:57] Well guys, this is fun and all but, it's quittin' time. [17:57] I said I'd go too .. [17:58] but the sound card recall .. [17:58] cheers :) [17:58] well the output [17:59] you have drivers loaded ? [17:59] Zbouby, "mount error(95): Operation not supported" in response to my mount request [17:59] old version was via and emu10k1 [18:00] admboom: what is the mount command ? [18:00] it looks like they're both loaded [18:00] you may rmmod them all and try to modprobe them manually [18:00] udev is sometime weirdo and loads modules with strange parameters .. [18:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:01] admboom: You can find usefull information in dmesg for cifs mounts [18:02] Thnks. I'll leave that for tomorrow, it's late. You around tomorrow evening/ [18:02] hmm .. it's midnight here .. I really have to go.. I must get up at 6 o'clock .. [18:03] by.. [18:03] ok, nity nite, speak to ya later [18:03] bye [18:03] yeppe :) [18:03] bye* [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426927.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] andarius_ (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Disconnecting... [18:04] microbix (~casian@f79-118-217-51.pitesti.rdsnet.ro) joined ##slackware. [18:04] microbix (casian@f79-118-217-51.pitesti.rdsnet.ro) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [18:05] Nick change: andarius_ -> andarius [18:05] Zbouby, CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -95 < from dmesg [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426927.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Zbouby, not much useful. Ubuntu worked, using mount.cifs 1.12, but slack current 64 with version 1.14-3.5.4 gives the error [18:05] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. 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[18:31] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:32] yeah probably not. feeling a bit sensitive right now. [18:32] bsdKlaatu: all the switches are wrong? [18:32] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] just remember, ls --color = ls -G [18:33] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:33] ooooh pretty [18:33] maco: your slack experience going well at all ? [18:34] or is the question indiscreet [18:34] bsdKlaatu: havent gotten there yet. need a friend with a router so i can pxe [18:34] oh right ok [18:34] im pretty sure pxe booting over wireless isnt an option [18:34] oh rly ? [18:34] well i dont think hardware can do that [18:34] can it...? [18:34] mac os x did [18:34] O_o [18:34] i think...didn't it ?? [18:35] ok maybe i'm wrong.....it's been a while [18:35] well im pretty sure my bios doesnt do that [18:35] Action: ananke has never seen pxe capable wifi [18:35] ok, see i said i was a noob. [18:35] bsdKlaatu: got a router you can bring to OLF? [18:35] yeah [18:36] i can drag vbatts up from VA and we can all sit around and you can tease me when my ubuntu-ness starts showing [18:36] i will bring it [18:36] haha [18:36] i doubt that's gonna happen. [18:37] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [18:37] i dont even know how you install things in slack other than ./configure && make && make install so... at least if it was gentoo id know how to use emerge [18:37] you guys'll get to laugh at me not being able to install things [18:37] well there is pkgtool fer slackware, and slackbuilds, the official unofficial extra repository. as it were. [18:37] ilana (~chatzilla@bzq-109-66-41-132.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] it's nice, you will like it [18:38] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:38] yeah ive heard of slackbuilds but didnt know how it worked [18:38] im hoping nicer than sunfreeware.whatever [18:38] i mean, you know me. and believe it or not, i maintain a few slackbuilds. that's how easy they are [18:38] YES it is much better than the sun stuff. i mean, imho. [18:38] maco: not quite. slackbuilds is closer to portage than to sunfreeware [18:38] i wouldn't call either one better. they're not the same [18:38] maco: I was the same way at first but it's easier than you think [18:38] ananke: fair enough [18:39] ananke: ok ive heard nice things about portage :) [18:39] i certainly liked USING the CSW stuff on openSolaris, but...don't understand it. [18:39] wait ... [18:39] now im going to look at bsdKlaatu and mix up portage and ports [18:39] portage = emerge, ports = the bsd thing? [18:39] i am curious about the whole portage / bsd ports / slackbuild relationship. like how they are similar, etc. [18:39] maco: yeah [18:39] Nick change: bsdKlaatu -> notKlaatu [18:39] hi there, at the moment i have default keyboard map US. i would like to add hebrew keymap to it and be able to switch between them within lxde. how do i do it? [18:39] better? [18:40] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:41] in lxde i'll bet there's a gui configurator for that although i don't use it so..not really sure, ilana :-\ [18:42] Jimmen (~Devilman@host211-175-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] can i do it by editing xorg.conf? [18:42] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Change_keyboard_layouts [18:43] oda (~oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:43] well if you're on 13.1 then you've got hal working for you, i think that'll take care of it. [18:43] but really i have no clue, but can i interest you in editing video with Blender? [18:44] haha [18:44] notKlaatu: thanx. [18:45] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:48] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[18:56] though a nerd fest is quite appealing [18:56] we'll see [18:57] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-151-173.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] vbatts: bring a munchkin! we can train them up into proper geeks! [18:57] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] :) [18:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-247-47.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:59] speaking of which, bath time ! [18:59] Action: vbatts out ... [18:59] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Ich bin Aqua Buddha. [19:04] waffle waffle ? [19:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:07] alexandru_g (~alex@188.27.193.97) joined ##slackware. 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[19:17] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:18] hi there :) [19:18] how i can enlarge fonts in xfce? :) [19:19] when i drunt they so smal :) [19:19] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [19:20] m3tti (~user@p57B7DE81.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:20] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:21] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:22] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:22] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:22] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:22] s//small,drunk [19:22] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:36] yeah [19:36] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:36] for example i've started an emacs session in x and want to move that session to my tty [19:37] the only way i know to do it is with screen [19:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:37] hrm damn [19:37] thrice`, i will try window manager, but that have no result, before this i manually will probe to update gtk+,glib,pango,atk...damn,maybe i destroy it all :) sorry for my RUnglish(fUkrainglish) :) [19:37] i don't think emacs can detach itself from a terminal [19:38] can i move emacs to a screen while it runs XD [19:38] am0rphis, why would you do that, again? :) [19:38] no, no, to screen, gnu screen, it's a program [19:39] rafu: i know but could i move a running session of emacs to screen [19:39] but using emacs inside screen is very painfull, the share the (almost) the same keys [19:39] waaaah XD [19:39] i don't think you can, i have tried it [19:40] ok [19:40] than another question could i start an emacs server at startup ? 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[19:46] have 2.12.12 of gtk+ is too old to conpile xfce4-screenshooter-1.7.9 [19:46] but that's the way it is [19:46] SleepySand (~YellowRoa@unaffiliated/sandman1) joined ##slackware. [19:46] my uni is trying to force me to use m$ products [19:46] hahahah, who not? [19:47] there present balmer's anal slaves? [19:47] then you should try to learn to use notepad [19:47] ah that so crazy my oppinon was that unis try to lower cost and tries to make technology free for everyone [19:48] XD i allready know how to work with that crap tool XD [19:48] strg + s for save xD [19:48] SleepySand (~YellowRoa@unaffiliated/sandman1) left irc: Client Quit [19:48] it is so complicated XD after working with emacs [19:49] am0rphis, if you just need to take a SS, use 'import ss.png' [19:49] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:49] yea, i totally know the feeling [19:50] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [19:51] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] thrice`, i recover pango libs, have no hopes to compile SS :) it's crash xfce,google-chrome,xchat and other but no blackbox :) [19:55] so now i've to test my script wish me luck XD [19:56] m3tti (~user@p57B7DE81.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:56] good luck! [19:57] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [20:00] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:08] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Mjollnir (~Mjollnir@212.183.140.49) left irc: Quit: server downtime [20:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.52) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:16] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) joined ##slackware. [20:17] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-98-77.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:18] m3tti (~user@p57B7DE81.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] haha it works rafu [20:19] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) left irc: Client Quit [20:19] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) joined ##slackware. [20:20] the emacs server at startup? [20:20] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-245.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:21] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) left irc: Client Quit [20:21] yes but one thing to go the if it starts up and i want to use the ansi-term it starts at / not in my home dir [20:22] meybe i could nearly use my laptop completely in console XD [20:22] /s/e/a [20:22] lol XD [20:23] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:25] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:26] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:02] CTCP DCC: GET\rJOIN\40\060\r from am0rphis (am0rphis!ewq@212.58.177.227) to ##slackware [21:02] hey guys, r u update yors Kvirc? what about /msg $your_nick [21:04] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:07] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:07] r u lul w00t engrish lolsp34k? [21:08] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [21:08] ananke: and I thought *I* was old [21:08] :P [21:08] in exUSSR english speak you :) [21:13] popl, i read your paranoid quit message, what you think about this http://fish.secure.la/ ? :) [21:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.52) joined ##slackware. [21:16] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) left irc: Quit: server downtime [21:22] rirombo (~user@h232.6.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F8A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:00] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:02] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-157-180.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] heya folks [22:07] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:07] am0rphis: I don't use mIRC. [22:07] hi MLanden [22:07] heya popl [22:07] I misread that I think. [22:08] popl, but xchat or irssi [22:08] no, I didn't. [22:09] popl, i reading about ctcp SED in bithcX [22:10] am0rphis: http://irssi-otr.tuxfamily.org/ [22:10] I haven't tried it. [22:14] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] popl, i am using xchat, no like cosole clients coz have running x [22:15] bah, facebook doesn't work in links. [22:15] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:16] also xfish.so plug-in worked good, but have no users to test it [22:16] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [22:16] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:17] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:17] thumbs: heavily flash dependant? [22:17] MLanden: I doubt that. [22:17] MLanden: more like AJAX, IMO. [22:18] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:20] thumbs: ok...so i see from their dev wiki [22:20] I find most modern websites don't work at all without javascript. [22:20] Oh well. [22:20] Facebook sucks anyways. [22:22] hello all [22:22] hey popl [22:23] heya shonudo [22:23] hey MLanden [22:23] bernie (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:25] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:26] who cares about facebook these days? it's far too mainstream to still be relevant [22:27] nyRednek_ (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] nyRednek: I'm trying to browse all sites with links (not use Firefox at all) [22:27] jhw_ (~jhw@p548D6FA1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:28] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [22:28] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [22:29] thumbs: you mean lynx? [22:29] nyRednek: no, links. [22:29] oh, yeah, it renders tables [22:30] you have lynx, links, elinks, w3c [22:31] also midori(but it does javascript) [22:31] actually, let me try w3c [22:31] jhw (~jhw@p548D6F72.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:31] thumbs: the slackbuild doesn't go in 13.1, iirc [22:34] wait, that's w3m [22:34] right. [22:35] thumbs: i don't claim to be an expert [22:36] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC. [22:39] pirving (~JD@cpe-24-31-159-226.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:39] thumbs: have you tried hv3? [22:39] nyRednek: ah, not bad. Only 6 requirements to compile. [22:39] popl: no. [22:40] it's not pretty. [22:40] :) [22:40] I'll try it. [22:40] it seemed to work ok when I tried it though. [22:41] davimint (~david@c-76-123-145-214.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:42] teach me c++ [22:42] well, I want to build w3m next, then hv3 [22:43] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.119.165) joined ##slackware. [22:43] pirving: try ##C++ [22:43] comment? [22:43] no, channel [22:43] irc channel [22:43] brutal [22:44] what? [22:45] So, I'm running this old ass system. How do you think Slackware will run in virtualbox? P 173 Mhz. with 1.00 G B of RAM [22:46] Is that really a good question? [22:46] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:47] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.234.86) joined ##slackware. [22:47] anyway, when will flash be abandoned? [22:47] pirving, are you trolling or just bored? [22:48] pirving: is the cpu a pentium pro? [22:48] osrry, I'm out of control....I miss this channel. I think hearing people talk about enterprise network configuration issues mkes me smarter really [22:49] I don't think it's a pro [22:49] You can find out pretty easily. [22:49] you've got enough mem [22:49] you should just try it [22:50] This is the story really. It's a old laptop that doesn't belong to me and I'm really tired of windows, and I feel wrong not being completely open source [22:50] true..one of those sink-or-swim moments [22:50] I think it will run fairly well [22:50] Slackware really in minimal on memory requirements [22:51] I remember feeding floppy disk's [22:51] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [22:51] there are quit messages... [22:52] and then there are psychological profiles [22:52] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:52] love it [22:52] Anyone here a ham radio operator? [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:54] The-Croupier (~Arbi_Goce@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] I think I'll run xfce [22:56] or fluxbox [22:57] or ratpoison if it's still in development [22:58] pirving: i personally am using fvwm [22:58] plenty of choices...;) [22:58] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-177.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:58] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:58] approx. how many wm? [22:59] like 5 or so [22:59] in the defualt install [22:59] pirving: and dozens, if not hundreds, more available [23:00] I was reading that a incorrect X config could damage a monitor....I wasn't aware if shit [23:00] *this [23:00] sorry [23:00] pirving: what's the make/model of that laptop...out of curiosity [23:01] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-239.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Dell Dimension E1705 [23:01] Ghento style [23:01] *Gheto [23:01] almost said gentoo [23:01] lol [23:02] ghetto....( [23:02] not that old, pirving [23:02] if it's first gen centrino, you'll have to mess with the iw2100 or whatever, but other than that [23:02] wait...I forgot...it's a inspiron [23:02] very do-able [23:03] the "multimedia addition" [23:03] eddition [23:03] pirving: cool....with core duo...very do-able..;) [23:03] Action: pirving hasn't chatted in a while and has had too many "High Gravity's" [23:03] x64? [23:03] wrong iso? [23:04] pirving: look at the specs... http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2776 [23:05] that took a while for firefox to load....I'm a chrome fan really [23:05] did they make a native version yet or is there still chromium crossover crap [23:05] dsl765 (~dsl@122-124-132-170.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] pirving: the 5-in-1 reader still work in it? nice feature [23:06] I think I just have to wipe windows and hope my mom doesn't mind [23:06] I think she'll be pissed [23:06] vbox it(windows,I mean) [23:07] wipe it right and you can blame boehner.... [23:07] hahah, do your mom know what a computer is? [23:07] Now why is there a sun licence.....damn it [23:07] just tell your mom he wears capris [23:07] s/do/does [23:07] thats what she said [23:07] shonudo: lol [23:08] women = linux killers [23:08] at any rate. It's gonna be about several hours to complete the dvd iso that I can mount [23:08] thats what she said [23:08] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [23:09] is slamd64 still alive? [23:09] it doesn't get update for years [23:09] dsl765, i think it's still "around" [23:10] not sure how much life it has left [23:10] lol [23:10] pirving: or with the Intel-VT it has...could use kvm with a Windows image [23:10] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.119.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:11] Linux chicks rawr! [23:11] oops [23:11] lol [23:11] rawk! [23:11] !!!!!!!!! [23:11] only intel vt-x is not enough i think [23:11] Penguin strippers [23:11] you need vt-d too [23:12] I am thinking I should download DamnSmallLinux [23:12] that should do it. I'll be with a crappy stripped debian distro [23:12] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:12] absolutely, it's small but it's x86-only [23:12] There really is nothing better than Slackware, unless you consider Linux From Scratch something [23:13] or unless you consider the application :P [23:13] i think, linux mint is the future [23:13] I never made it through the compilation timess. Even though the manual is etrememly percise [23:13] mint is the ubuntu killer [23:14] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-8-161.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:14] Never minted myself [23:14] is it debian? [23:14] I kinda enjoyed MEPIS [23:14] its ubuntu, but easier [23:14] or vectorlinux [23:14] oh hi CathyInBlue! [23:15] I can never boot a ubuntu kernel [23:15] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:15] i have tried mepis. it's slow and likes a trashcan [23:15] What's so fantastic about Mint? [23:15] every time I use debian, it's outdated old ass versions of apps. deb sucks. apt-get blows [23:15] Hi. [23:15] hate rpm [23:15] pirving: like 70% of debian users run unstable [23:15] i hate deb too [23:16] yeah, and it crashes [23:16] i took a while to unzip a deb file by hand [23:16] un-ar [23:16] it's so bizzare how all these forks of distro's run amuck [23:16] i knew it [23:16] davimint (~david@c-76-123-145-214.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:17] the best distro in my mind is the lfs [23:17] to be honest, I used slackware telent style in the 90's and lynx, tin, pine, etc [23:17] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:17] rworkman, my artist has begun working on the panzer art. When it's complete I'll show it to you. :3 [23:18] I just joined and I saw 'panzer' art. Make it public man [23:18] what's that? [23:18] I don't think apple deserves unix [23:18] When a contributor goes down the whole group feels it. [23:18] Not done antiwire but I have been trying to get people to pm me their photo so I can get my artist to draw them into the panzer art. [23:19] risah: making a collage? [23:19] sort of social engeneering? [23:19] MLanden, not at all, it's actually pretty good art. [23:19] dsl765: are you asking about the panzer art? [23:19] Deviantart art art. You know, drawing with pencil and stuff. [23:19] dsl765: careful where you tread mate. [23:19] dsl765, I asked a while back but it seems a lot of people forgo about panzer already. I will never forget! [23:19] no [23:19] k [23:19] risah: ok, awesome...sounds good [23:20] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.119.165) joined ##slackware. [23:20] MLanden, antiwire if you would like to be included, please send a photo to me at rhisa@linux.com [23:20] risah: I'll find something [23:20] Cause what my artist will do is draw you based on the face, so if you have a scar across your eye or something, it'l be in there. 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[23:31] can someone explain the twp ##slackware. Is it an auto-forward or something? Does it have to do with ops? [23:31] is it a joke? [23:32] you got us, its a joke [23:32] we set up a forward to bring people here and trick them. convince them to use a slackware that is not really slackware [23:32] chomping (~chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) left irc: Quit: chomping [23:32] lol [23:32] anti-slack [23:32] negative, slackwooo [23:33] is it sabatoge? [23:33] lol...negaslack? hmmm [23:33] ## means the unofficial channel. [23:33] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [23:33] or the official channel commented out [23:34] Pat would need to file a GRF to get #slackware [23:34] how many ops are in here? [23:34] have you talked to pat on here? [23:36] is he still ill? [23:37] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-239.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:38] "Patrick is an avid homebrewer and beer lover.[4] Early versions of Slackware would entreat users to send him a bottle of local beer in appreciation for his work." [23:39] and for my favorite part "Patrick is a Deadhead. As of early April 1994 he had been to as many as 75 shows.[4]" [23:39] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-75.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:42] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [23:42] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:53] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-75.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:53] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-86.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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