[00:00] ass and cheese is the new domino's offering? [00:00] no that's ass and a kick in the nuts [00:00] "can i haz a deep dish ass and cheese?" [00:00] mancha: yup, one medium, only $9.99, extra ass is $1 more. [00:00] good god. [00:01] i step away for one second and this channel invest ass & cheese pizza. [00:01] You're making me dry heave [00:01] can I have deep fried ass? [00:01] s/invest/invents/ wtf [00:01] extra ass and some heffer comes to deliver it [00:01] haha [00:01] as long as she brings beer it will be ok [00:01] don't forget the goggles@! [00:01] beer makes it ok [00:01] eviljames: see, a good reason to *never* step away. [00:02] anyone know if there would be a real big difference with a SFP Transceiver that does 1000base-T versus 1000base-(fiber of any sort)? [00:02] askhader (n=askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:02] This is fscked up http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-world/peckish-bird-downs-big-atom-smasher-20091110-i5ku.html [00:02] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:02] eviljames: i didn't say it was pizza. [00:02] antiwire: is that the bird with the french loaf or something? [00:02] It would have been much more interesting if the bird was the object hit by the beam [00:03] owls fuck shit up [00:03] How the hell do they let a bird into the LHC? [00:03] I'd think they could invest in some screen doors maybe [00:04] They clearly do not discriminate. [00:04] antiwire: Well, maybe they're broke from making the LHC? :P [00:04] I doubt it was an owl carrying bread. They are hunters. [00:04] dive: how dare you use logic in here [00:04] heh [00:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.54.150) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.74.15) joined ##slackware. [00:05] you know i'm much more interested in seeing small creatures placed where these high speed traveling particles will collide. Kind of like how you always wonder what would happen to a mouse if you put it in the microwave, but 100x more intense! [00:05] agentc0re me too [00:05] it was an outside part too - you'd think they would have some sort of covering? [00:05] I want to know what happens when soft tissue gets in the way of the LHC's particle beam [00:05] That would fuck our results up [00:05] askhader: what results? that shit blows up at even higher speeds? that's soo 1900's. :P [00:06] yeah I can imagine some bored scientists wondering what would happen if they put an egg in there, or one of those ketchup sachets [00:06] you know those bastards have probably already done something like that. [00:06] or their finger [00:06] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] Ah I doubt it. [00:06] Help. I can access my scanner only as `root' and not as a normal user. [00:06] yeah trick the new guy - 'just stand on the cross dude' [00:06] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65211cf.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [00:07] wham [00:07] There was one incident with a smaller particle accelerator and some dude's head [00:07] haha, a cross even makes it better. replace new guy with poor mexican named Jesus and there my friend, you have a story! [00:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski [00:07] man this handmade goat's cheese is good [00:07] http://mondomondo.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/anatoli-bugorski.jpg [00:08] those high speed particles probably just go right through w/o causing lasting damange? [00:08] yeah right [00:08] it causes harm boy [00:08] unless it's a blizzard of em [00:08] look at that article and search for his images [00:08] fscked him up [00:09] he just got lucky and didn't die [00:09] i always wear my foil cap anyhow, i'm protected [00:09] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:10] another film to watch - bbl [00:10] i wonder if they'll pay porn stars to do it while the collider runs? could be the next big thing like 2girl1cup. [00:10] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.19.211) joined ##slackware. [00:10] agentc0re: so, like, 2girls1collider ? [00:12] I was sitting in a cafe today, 60+ miles away from where I live, and this who I went on a couple dates with years ago walked in. [00:12] fire|bird: See, we're on to something here. [00:13] this who/this girl who [00:13] Action: fire|bird steps away to register some domain names, you know, just in case. [00:13] :P [00:13] antiwire: nice! still good looking and single? [00:13] this was not good [00:13] uh oh.. [00:13] fire|bird: lol! awesome idea. [00:13] One of the dates was a hike, she even suggested it. [00:14] On this date she passed out on the trail because she could not hang. [00:15] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [00:15] I realized she was gone after I was about 100ft up the trail. I looked back and she was in the dirt. I had to get her up and get her back down the fscking mountain [00:15] antiwire: is she a little plump or a decent body just not in shape(which... i think if you were average you wouldn't passout on a hike unless you have something really wrong with you) [00:16] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:16] She had a great body but I think she fibbed about her aerobic capacity [00:16] Help! I can access my scanner only as `root' and not as a normal user. [00:16] I, on the other hand, hike and surf mountain bike all the time. [00:17] So flash back to the cafe; she walks in and I look up. She passed by me which a peculiar look on her face, sort of turned so her hair covered her face and went out the back door [00:18] I'm pretty sure she saw me [00:18] I swiftly left as well [00:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:18] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:19] lol [00:19] you could've said Hello as she passed by you... [00:19] did you check to see if she passed out from trying to leave too fast? [00:20] couldve been your second save, and when she wakes up you say "This looks familiar.." [00:21] maybe you thought you were too cool to say hello first [00:22] prepare for the monster link! [00:22] http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/f9288c35d4214826a97986dd2d02a10e/09-12-2009-02-07/Students_jaw_blown_off_by_gum [00:22] It wasn't like that. She moved quickly [00:23] hmm [00:23] I could have ran after her, sure...but that is just weird. [00:23] agentc0re: holy.... [00:24] misleading url/title, jaw got blown off by chewing explosives [00:24] lol [00:24] That's awesome [00:24] hey do my eyes deceive me or did ff disable drag&drop bookmark organizing in 3.5.x? [00:25] mancha: You mean from within the bookmarks menu itself? [00:25] That's working for me here [00:25] solarisk (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] no, inside "organize bookmarks" [00:25] fire|bird: ya i know huh? [00:26] mancha: that works fine here. [00:26] mancha: works in both places for me [00:26] hrmmm, something is up then. it stopped here and i just noticed it [00:27] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [00:27] weird, i closed it and now it works as it should. i found a bug, wish i knew what it was [00:30] maybe FF hit its maximum ram usage of 37TB [00:30] dunno, i only had 85 tabs open... [00:30] lol [00:31] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [00:37] mancha: i usually have that many tabs open too... have odd issues sometimes as well. [00:37] I've never had near that many tabs open, is something wrong with me? :P [00:37] I start freaking out when I have more than 5 tabs open [00:38] bah, 64bit and tbird 3 are not mixing well. /me stabs cairo. [00:38] usually i try to keep it to about 30 to 40. [00:38] i did have at least a dozen open (not 85) and i noticed some trouble. aside from not being able to drag & drop, google's highlighting was off [00:39] but i am back to a very prudent 9 tabs and all is well [00:39] how much ram do you have mancha? [00:39] 4 giggers [00:39] I just opened 200+ tabs [00:39] all of my bookmarks [00:39] it's not happy about that [00:39] haha [00:40] might be why. once i threw in 8Gb FF ate up more for the same amount of tabs open. [00:40] I once installed 64 addons, it didn't like that either. [00:40] antiwire: lol! [00:40] 2687 xxxx 20 0 914m 344m 33m R 81 17.0 48:56.64 firefox-bin [00:40] -_- [00:40] i should upgrade the ram on this box, otoh i might just buy a replacement for it [00:41] antiwire: looks like you need a new pc. geez, can't even handle 200+ tabs. [00:41] haha [00:41] agentc0re: Yeah, and now-a-days, systems should be able to at least handle 250. [00:42] 250 billion! [00:42] I has stabilized now they all finished loading [00:42] not too actually [00:42] too bad* [00:42] what, you don't have 42 core i7's in your PC? shesh.. pussy! [00:42] I haz 2 [00:42] @ 1.83 [00:42] ok, back to 73 tabs, coast is clear... [00:43] you really are running a dual i7core machine? [00:43] SETKEH (n=setkeh@d58-105-169-16.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [00:43] it's a core duo (not the core 2 duo) [00:44] oh, when you said "i haz 2" i thought you meant the core i7 i just mentioned. [00:44] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Not yet [00:44] I wait for serious advancements before I buy new gear [00:45] Oh at work i have two dl380 server's, both have dual 604socket's. [00:45] Google's Public DNS http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html [00:45] One thing i found out today is that they have 3.6Ghz dual core cpu's in them... but their only running at 2.8.. WTF? [00:46] google's DNS idea is just so they can see more of what we like [00:46] The other thing i found out is, they made a Six-core CPU for that socket(it's an older socket too mind you). [00:46] Now, you don't even need to use google.com for them to track [00:46] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117176&cm_re=socket_604-_-19-117-176-_-Product [00:46] They don't do anything just for fun [00:46] 2k later... ouch! [00:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:47] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:48] would be pretty sweet to have a 12core server though. :D [00:48] I want one [00:48] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] that was my initial reaction to google dns too....but isp's have been snooping for years and worse, they intentionally break the rfc, at least google respect the rfc [00:50] So i put 6 sata drives in a raid10... performance is still piss poor. I blame the drives, but i'm about to blame the perc5/e controller. Been reading that it is blow avg because of the small cache size.. [00:51] agentc0re: hardware raid10? [00:51] agentc0re: what drives are they? [00:51] you know a little snooping is good. i'm not saying i want content delivered to me, but if i'm searching for something to buy but i can't find it because it's not being made, maybe this would help get it to the right person.. probably not but it sounds good. [00:52] agentc0re: what? [00:52] spook: they are only 250 sata drives. I'm not at work, can't remember exactly which drives. [00:52] so while not a best solution, if your choice is comcast dns (or something equally evil) or google, i'd have to go google [00:52] agentc0re: i find mdadm raid10 -l f2 is really fast. [00:52] mancha: agreed. comcast is evil. [00:52] Yeah, if you're searching for 'massively massive bukakee' you damn well want on topic results [00:54] co-co-convo-killer! [00:55] spook: so do i, which is what i am basing it's results off. my home pc is running a 6 drive raid 10 with mdadm+lvm as the stripe. work is hardware raid10. hdparm -tT for home pc gets 200Mb/sec on buffered reads. Work gets 80Mb/s. My netbook for christ sake just got 57Mb/s. [00:55] wtf?! [00:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] linux RAID1 2x750 mdadm on a promise sata150tx2+ card Timing buffered disk reads: 230 MB in 3.02 seconds = 76.19 MB/sec [00:56] agentc0re: whats super awesome is lining up the raid stripe size with the lvm block size and the xfs block size. [00:56] honestly i think it's the drives. i think they have a very small cache for their size which makes them run incredibly slow. [00:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [00:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Client Quit [00:57] antiwire: ya, but a raid1 is going to be slow. But you just got the same performance in a 1 as i got in a 10. something is totally wrong there. [00:57] my disks have 16MB cache too [00:57] do you think a large stripe size would cause it? [00:57] i set it to 128k. [00:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.95.49) joined ##slackware. [00:58] If the adapter and disks lack cache you could be saturating the disk subsystem if the stripe size is too large [00:58] i set mine to 64K, iirc [00:58] i'll cut it to 32k tomorrow and see if that helps. [00:59] anyone ever have panic attacks? [00:59] after changing the DNS to the googles my 96kps connection loads stuff really fast o_o ,google pokes on peoples weakness :-/ [00:59] nopers. [00:59] not like "omgomgomg" out loud [01:00] real panic attacks [01:00] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [01:00] packages such as openerp that have like 12 required packages always make me nervous [01:00] I always feel like im going to break something [01:00] redtricycle, just read the readmes [01:00] init[1]: It's because Google has more resources than any ISP [01:01] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:01] i started using google's DNS so that unresolved names would stop resulting in custom 'search' pages covered in unrelated sponsored links and spam [01:01] I use an ancient Pacbell DNS server [01:01] It's a clean one [01:01] no bullshit or redirects [01:02] nice [01:02] antiwire: yea, google is too tempting to try :) [01:02] 206.13.29.12 and 206.13.30.12 [01:02] Los Angeles and San Jose iirc [01:02] to set your dns, what do you have to do? Change it in /etc/resolv.conf? [01:02] fd0 (n=laulhe@host183.200-117-123.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Actually it is LA and San Diego [01:03] echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf [01:03] hiptobecubic^: set it in resolv.conf and use rc.inet1.conf to override dhcp settings [01:03] right, ok thanks [01:03] Anon591 (i=JavaUser@host-74-211-73-29.beyondbb.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] add the '-r' to dhcp IIRC to prevent resolv.conf replacement [01:03] antiwire, where did you find that old dns server? [01:04] I have used it for over 10 years [01:04] Nick change: Anon591 -> RJ_Mouse [01:04] -R [01:04] rc.inet1.conf: DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[X]="yes" [01:05] hiptobecubic^: they are now dns1.lsanca.sbcglobal.net & dns1.sndgca.sbcglobal.net which were, before SBC, Pacbell servers [01:05] ah [01:05] they used to be actual pacbell.net [01:06] http://dedicated.pacbell.net/faq/FAQs_techsupport.html#servresolv [01:07] freefox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [01:08] nice [01:08] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. 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[01:35] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:35] eddief kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [01:35] oh my [01:37] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:38] lol [01:45] back to my OT time question, facebook gives me panic attacks [01:45] me too [01:45] :) [01:45] good it's not just me [01:46] and I don't even have a facebook account [01:47] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:47] Next: try to change Slackware CDs into UFOs for world domination. [01:48] Slackware CD wall art [01:50] facebook is gay [01:50] I made a stub account [01:50] hiptobecubic, don't googles name servers respond with ads? [01:50] jeev, didn't when i tested [01:50] that only works with webpages - not dns lookups [01:51] isn't that ultimately the same thing [01:51] not even close [01:51] wtf [01:51] I thought jeev worked in a colo [01:51] however - it allows google to add more tracking of your ip's [01:51] (if you're google-paranoid) [01:52] antiwire: depends on the position :) [01:52] (about jeev) [01:54] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-88-244.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:54] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [02:03] flakes flaaaaakes [02:04] snow? [02:04] Frank Zappa [02:04] Close though. [02:04] or a general opinion of users? [02:05] no zappa allowed [02:05] I just watched the film Antichrist - really disturbing [02:05] seriously guys. no. zappa [02:05] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] antiwire, flakes, flaaaaaaaaaaakes [02:05] CALIFORNIA'S GOT THE MOST OF THEM! (doot doot dooo) [02:06] don't need to remind me [02:06] yo... how do i move/delete files by size? [02:06] you forgot the fruits and nuts part of the granola reference [02:06] substanc1v, yo... what do you mean?... bro? [02:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.76) left irc: "Leaving" [02:07] lets say i want to find files under 50k recursively in a directory and move or delete them [02:07] find has a -size option [02:07] substanc1v: man find - "find -size N+ | xargs mv [02:08] whats xargs [02:08] man xargs [02:08] :) [02:08] :D [02:08] Action: antiwire dies [02:08] "what's man?" [02:08] cmon. [02:08] just instantly curious remarks [02:08] although in your case you may want to play with find's -exec option [02:08] thanks tho [02:09] just remmeber to play with the -exec option before actually using -exec with mv [02:09] substanc1v, be careful with find and mv / rm [02:09] and touch [02:09] don't go touching yourself everywhere [02:09] substanc1v, i usually through an 'echo' in there to see whether or not i'm going to nuke myself in the balls [02:10] Which, i think we can all agree, is the worst place to nuke one's self [02:10] with a nuke [02:10] want some nuke? [02:10] want some balls? [02:10] better use brass ones [02:11] i can nuke 'em right off [02:11] Action: hiptobecubic fires up find . -exec shred.... \; [02:11] mine are made of mimetic-adhesive poly-alloy [02:12] antiwire, sounds sticky [02:12] sigh... nobody has steel ones anymore these days [02:12] find /path/dir/* -size -10k -type f -exec rm -f '{}' \; [02:12] brass looks prettier :) [02:12] hows that look [02:12] ? [02:12] dive, they rust too quickly [02:12] nah not high carbon steel [02:12] substanc1v: ok if you want to remove them [02:12] fd0 (n=laulhe@host183.200-117-123.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving." [02:12] i think i might try another command to avoid accidently testing [02:13] high-carbon breaks too easy - but makes great sharp edges :) [02:13] find /path/dir/ -size -10k -type f -exec echo rm -r '{}' \; [02:13] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:13] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:14] i think -f is better cause im searching recursivly already [02:14] right? [02:15] -r will delete dirs [02:15] I would leave off the -r and see which entries come up as directories - but the -f to find will only find files, not directories [02:16] yeah [02:16] i didn't even mean to add '-r'... muscle memory i guess [02:16] -f is for rm to force deleting what is in '{}' [02:16] ok brb [02:16] Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine to all the chicks? [02:16] richard roundtree as "Shaft" [02:16] alisonken1noc, way to not sing. [02:17] :) [02:17] no zappa and no shaft :| [02:17] or stairway to heaven [02:18] dive, shut yo mouth! [02:18] haha [02:18] ;) [02:18] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:19] for postgresql, how do I create a database? I'm trying to run openerp-server [02:19] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.74.15) left ##slackware. [02:20] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/interactive/tutorial-createdb.html [02:20] Would you know the default database that openerp looks for? [02:20] Not really sure what to name my database [02:20] however, if you're using openerp, use the openerp setup info [02:20] damnits. I need to disable my cdrom somehow [02:20] hiptobecubic: unplug it? [02:20] redtricycle, hp laptop [02:21] ah [02:21] it would be nice if i could re-enable it on the fly but really i don't care. i just want it to stop trashing everything [02:22] how is it trashing everything? [02:22] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:22] after a certain amount of time, it just hangs and everything that touches it goes into IO zombie mode [02:22] everything. I can't even run lilo [02:23] desktop/laptop? [02:23] laptop [02:23] and bios doesn't have a disable option [02:23] you should be able to remove the cd from the laptop [02:23] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [02:24] the cd? you mean the cdrom? yes but it's a huge pain. hp laptops are not helpful. not like dell [02:24] true :) [02:24] i'm going to recompile the kernel with ide-cd as a module and then just not modprobe it [02:24] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:25] greetings guys... [02:25] mrning [02:25] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:25] hiya dive [02:25] hows things? [02:25] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:25] up all-nighter again [02:25] hiptobecubic: just make sure you blacklist ide-cd then otherwise it may autoload [02:25] right [02:25] dive: sounds like fun ;) [02:26] just watched a really disturbing film - Antichrist [02:26] watched Moon before that and it was crap [02:26] and it's now 7:26am [02:27] well that's my day [02:27] how's you? [02:27] just starting the graveyard shift here and dumping trashcans from the day shift taking a liquid break [02:28] what? [02:28] haha seriously [02:29] I am serious [02:29] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:29] what kind of liquid break? [02:29] reboot... run lilo before the cdrom shits on everything ... reboot again. brb [02:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [02:30] bottles and 24oz cans mainly [02:30] oh, booze [02:30] dive: im not bad... just came to work without any sleep at all... staying here till 7pm today .. so that is going to be fun ;) [02:30] yeah - no swimming pool in the basement here :)\ [02:30] oh yeah [02:31] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-yzyoigrnowxbjyjb) joined ##slackware. [02:31] i would love to have a swimming pool at work ;) for a lunch brake or something ;) [02:32] or if you know someone you hate is gonna swim in it [02:32] pee in it! [02:33] jude (n=jude@217.199.157.218) joined ##slackware. [02:33] jeev: nahhh i wouldnt do that... but i would definately add some more bleach to the pool ;) [02:33] hrm i have to report a kernel bug...teh question is how and to whom without looking like the dumbass that i am [02:33] while he is swiming [02:33] lool [02:33] bleach, you suck [02:33] thats just dangerous [02:33] i guess not if it's little [02:33] jeev: you got a more fun idea? [02:33] but imagine sleeping in an all bleach [02:34] yes, pee! [02:34] jeev: too much amonia on pee :P [02:34] poo [02:34] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:35] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [02:37] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [02:40] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:41] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [02:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:42] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] jeev: that is visible..;) he will notice :p [02:43] hi The-Croupier [02:44] The-Croupier, not if you drink a lot of water [02:44] or if it's a big pool, nobody will notice [02:44] SETKEH (n=setkeh@CPE-121-219-83-216.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:49] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [02:51] Axius (n=fim@92.82.90.205) joined ##slackware. [02:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [02:53] blacklisting ide-cd_mod seems to work. Hopefully that will fix things [02:55] AtuM (n=damjan@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [02:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] i need an active slackware64 13 torrent.. anyone? [02:56] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:57] found it on slackware page.. man am i blind today or what ;-) [03:00] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A55C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. 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[03:39] this is pretty annoying...I have no idea why I can't create a databse using the openerp-client [03:39] I tried startin the server as postgresql, and sdtarting the clieint as postgresql [03:39] and trying different usernames too [03:41] is your postgresql database file location writeable? [03:42] is your openerp server pointed to a writeable directory for the db? [03:42] hm, where is it located? /var/lib/? [03:42] you have to look at the configuration for your postgresql/eerp setup for that info [03:42] it's writable by postgres [03:42] and that's the user I'm starting it as [03:44] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] are you starting postgresql as root or yourself? if yourself, you don't have permissions to change user that postgresql can change to [03:45] if I didnt set a password as postgresql...can I still create a database? [03:45] i'ms tarting postgresql as root [03:46] using /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql [03:46] one sec, let me read it [03:47] the startup script should start postgresql as postgresql, right? [03:47] I don't have psql installed, so not sure. it should start as the user that you created for postgresql [03:48] I'm just posting some normal q's that get asked [03:49] Okay, checked the log and it has: ERROR: encoding UTF8 does not match locale en_US [03:49] hm [03:49] ok - error usually indicates it won't run properly where warning typically means it should still run [03:49] redtricycle: change your locale !? [03:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:50] SETKEH (n=setkeh@CPE-121-219-83-216.lnse1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:52] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:52] snL20, shhhhhhhh [03:59] Damn. I can change my locale all I want... [03:59] and I alway re-initdb to set the locale [03:59] also* [03:59] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] and, I make sure my locale is en_US.UTF-8 for both the server and the client [04:00] still the same error [04:04] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:04] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:05] can you post the full errors to pastebin? [04:07] sure [04:07] redtricycle: hmmm, maybe its the other way around.... that the UTF8 doesnt match en_US.... [04:08] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/3m8qZx25.html [04:08] you need the utf-8 setting for the db if you expect non-latin-iso characters to be able to be stored in table fields [04:08] i'm trying to use the client to create the database [04:09] alisonken1noc: might have to compile it by hand [04:09] I also tried switching my locale to non-utf ("en_US") [04:09] instead of en_US.UTF-8 [04:09] yeah - the openerp is trying to create a unicode table when your db is not set to handle unicode [04:09] redtricycle: aah ij [04:09] ok* [04:10] check your openerp configuration settings and try to match [04:10] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] how do i set my postgres database to allow unicode? [04:10] I went into the var/lib/pgql/database diretory [04:10] and changed the config file to en_US.UTF-8 [04:10] do you have a config file like /etc/postgresql setting? [04:11] the server config file should be specified in /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql script [04:12] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/qsAxDI35.html [04:12] one sec, let me check that [04:12] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:14] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/k1dhga77.html [04:14] Wow. I almost pasted 123 lines by accident [04:15] you mean you almost pasted 4 lines and got kicked [04:15] 8-) [04:15] have you initialized your postgresql database server (the initdb setup) before running openerp? [04:15] yes [04:16] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Qgt3RK63.html [04:16] the locales are all UTF8 [04:16] redtricycle: is there a `locale` cmd ? [04:16] "The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8. [04:16] snL20: yes, it's all UTF8 [04:17] redtricycle: for the os [04:17] What do you mean? [04:18] do you want to see locale output? [04:18] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/j0O49J61.html locale output [04:18] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH020111.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [04:20] for starters - postgresql system username should _not_ have shell account (security issue) [04:20] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:21] they should have /bin/false as their shell [04:21] and ignore tripFantastic when he tells you otherwise. [04:21] all db calls should be through the db client [04:21] I su'd to root, then su'd to postgresql [04:21] postgres:x:209:209::/var/lib/pgsql: [04:21] is the passwd entry [04:21] is that incorrect? [04:22] password entry is only used when trying to "su postgres" or login directly as postgres user [04:22] either way, shell should still be something like /bin/false [04:22] nod [04:23] So anyway, I'm still confused why postgresql is in LATIN1 mode [04:23] and you should be using the postgresql client software/scripts - similar to the way mysql uses the mysql client to connect to the db server [04:24] nod...I got tired of type -U postgresql, I can switch back [04:24] latin1 is the standard english encoding for character sets [04:24] it opens a security whole a truck (or script kiddie) can get to your system [04:25] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.92) joined ##slackware. [04:26] it's 22°F(~-6°C) [04:26] AtuM (n=damjan@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:30] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) joined ##slackware. [04:31] madbear_ (n=dude@83.253.152.125) joined ##slackware. [04:32] Nick change: StevenR_ -> StevenR [04:33] Okay, I can initdb with a default encoding [04:33] how do I delete my data directory and recreate it? [04:33] simply moving the directory doesnt work [04:33] it'll still register [04:33] stop your postgresql server first [04:34] then delete the directory rather than move it [04:34] (basically, start over) [04:34] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [04:34] ...so moving it doesnt delete it? [04:34] or change the location in the postgresql to point to a different directory [04:34] hello [04:34] no - move just renames the inode [04:35] Okay, it's deleted... [04:35] how can change locale from slackware-e17 [04:35] but I still get the same error [04:35] ? [04:36] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/wkkXuQ48.html [04:36] ROKO__: locale and slackware-e17? [04:36] locale bg_BG [04:36] for slack e17 [04:36] ah [04:37] ? [04:37] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.17) left irc: Connection timed out [04:38] FINALLY [04:38] The answer was: [04:38] as root, set LANG to a unicode [04:38] then when you initdb, you need to pass the -E argument for default encodings [04:38] redtricycle: there's also --locale [04:39] right, and locale too [04:39] *sigh* [04:39] thanks alisonken1noc for the patience [04:39] np [04:39] if you specify it with --locale, the environment variable is ignored [04:39] ah [04:40] in addition to, or alternative to -E? [04:40] I'm not sure, but I think if your system isn't set up for utf8, you should use that switch [04:41] urthwrm (n=hooch@124-170-197-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:41] according to man initdb, the default for -E is derived from --locale [04:42] I can finally start playing with openerp =) [04:42] but now i'm sleepy [04:42] ROKO__ (n=ROKO__@85.217.253.135) left irc: "Leaving" [04:43] I'll make sure this is in the README for openerp with the next update [04:44] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.19.211) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:44] coolies [04:46] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:46] Ghost (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. 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[04:57] huh? did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso? [04:58] nop.. i must say I didn't :/ [04:58] is the dvd a purchased dvd or a dvd iso you burned [04:58] it's downloaded.. i'm virtualizing it :) [04:58] so do. [04:58] running it now [04:59] and it might be burning-related problems, as alisonken1noc implied. [04:59] btw - where did you get the iso from? [04:59] torrent [05:00] ok - still want to check the md5sum from slackware.com and make sure they match [05:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [05:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [05:01] md5 sum matches [05:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [05:02] I have unselected a few package groups.. nothing important - documentation, xap, games, emacs [05:03] i'm reinstalling using reiserfs, but this shouldn't make a difference [05:03] games is a vital system package o_O it provides fortune! :) [05:03] i'm sure anyone can spare 5 megs for bsd-games :) [05:04] in a way life itself might be a game.. so why not :D [05:04] AtuM, i'm using reiserfs, but with slack 12.2, i went with ext3 on 13.0. [05:05] slava_dp, why would you do that.. 13 has ext4 [05:05] but i doubt it's reiserfs-related, the fs is pretty stable. [05:05] AtuM, a 200 mhz pc. thought i'd go ext3. [05:05] I see [05:06] I'd go slackware 8 on such a pc :-) [05:06] did you burn the iso, or do you just plug it to a virtual machine as-is? [05:06] i've just plugged it in [05:07] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] Action: slava_dp is out of ideas then [05:07] I'm getting that a lot these days.. must not be my week :) [05:07] yeah, it happens [05:08] I bet full install will fix this current problem :) [05:08] will post the result :) [05:10] vdvluc (n=luc@145.33.196.87) joined ##slackware. [05:11] AtuM, there is an install_packages script in every package dir on the dvd [05:11] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [05:13] cd slackware; upgradepkg --install-new */*.txz [05:13] something like this will upgrade you to a full install [05:13] update: it only happened on ext4fs.. it works fine on reiserfs.. ain't that something [05:14] thanks slava_dp. tell me.. is that a good procedure for upgrading an existing system too? [05:15] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:15] for a correct upgrade procedure read UPGRADE.TXT, CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT and other relevant files on the dvd. [05:16] slackpkg is great for updating, but manual upgradepkg works too. [05:17] will do.. rtm is what i do best :-) [05:20] morning :) [05:21] morning. [05:21] anyone know of a program that can diff two *binary* files, I want to see how different are two files [05:21] morning [05:22] Camarade_Tux: I thought diff could just do that. [05:22] BP{k}: it just says "files are different" afaik [05:24] Camarade_Tux: or cmp(1) [05:25] BP{k}: a bit better but still not very verbose, anyway, it was enough, thanks :) [05:26] morn [05:26] Camarade_Tux: even with -l? [05:26] Action: Zordrak has the lurgi.. stay back [05:26] BP{k}: ok, I hadn't seen that option, definitely verbose :P [05:27] I wonder if it tries to "resync" when it meets a difference, guess it doesn't [05:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [05:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:32] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vqsbtyyecukdycmr) joined ##slackware. [05:32] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [05:36] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Client Quit [05:36] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [05:46] ziggy__ (n=ziggy@187.37.204.135) left irc: "Leaving" [05:55] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-232-23.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:56] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) joined ##slackware. [05:58] anyone know if the WD My Book Essential Apollo 1TB works in linux ? [05:59] snL20: what fs is on it? [06:00] askhader: well, its ntfs but there is supposed to be hardware encryption so I dont know [06:00] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:03] snL20: if theres some kind of proprietary encryption then it probably wont as the decryption is probably implemented in the driver [06:03] Zordrak: which means the wd my book's wont work ... [06:04] snL20: but then you could always repl/ace the USB2sata chip with a cheap off the shelf one and then LUKS the bitch :) [06:04] but kinda invalridates the warranty [06:04] Zordrak: I suppose I could always get a akasa hd enclosure and hd [06:04] ^ [06:04] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-248-92.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:12] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. 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[06:35] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] MLanden: isnt the sun on the wrong side of the planet for you? [06:37] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] lol...Zordrak..just comin' up 'round the bend...:P [06:39] You and I just seem to be polar opposites for active channel time [06:41] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: [06:42] Zordrak: it happens [06:44] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.65.214) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:47] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:47] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [06:48] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:53] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:54] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) joined ##slackware. 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Mon-Weds is high activity.. thurs+fri theres much much less [07:15] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:16] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:17] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [07:17] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.55.102) joined ##slackware. [07:18] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:23] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:24] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:28] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:29] will something break if i apply the kernel-headers-2.6.26.6 update ,even though i'm on the 2.6.31.6 , i mean something like binary drivers (if i have to recompile) [07:31] what's the update, [07:31] ? [07:33] Camarade_Tux: kernel headers with latest patch [07:33] not recommended since the headers are so gcc knows how to compile programs to work with the kernel [07:33] init[1]: I *think* there was no change [07:34] also, I'm running kernel 2.6.32 with 2.6.29.6 headers, [07:34] the update actually goes with a (g)libc update [07:34] if you're running .32 kernel, you really should have the .32 headers, not the .29 headers [07:35] init[1]: what has prompted this? [07:35] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [07:36] Zordrak: slackpkg [07:36] init[1]: oh waith.. ignore me.. the question doesnt make sense and doesnt reflect what i meant to ask [07:36] Action: Zordrak is very ill. Throat-infection. [07:36] alisonken1noc: is there something called sanitised headers [07:37] the headers need to match what glibc was compiled against, regardless of what kernel you are running [07:37] alisonken1noc: i remember ,something like that [07:37] I knew gcc was in there somewhere :) [07:37] mancha: so i should _never_ uninstall the one i have (29.6) [07:38] ? [07:38] init, right, unless you recompile glibc [07:39] mancha: so why did slackpkg prompt me to install the newly patched headers , shouldn't i apply the update ? http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/linux-2.6.29.6-3/kernel-headers-2.6.29.6_smp-x86-3.txz [07:39] atm what i have is smp-x86-2 [07:40] Camarade_Tux: yea,got cha :) [07:40] need to read the notes on why the package was updated - I believe that's why the -3 at the end [07:41] the headers didn't change, i bet it's just so the names match [07:41] that typically indicates that there was an oops in the original package, and that one has been updated twice since that slackware version was out [07:42] but yeah, I think there has been no changes to the headers, I may be wrong though [07:42] Busindre (n=Busindre@unaffiliated/busi) joined ##slackware. [07:43] you are not wrong, he woudn't change the headers [07:43] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:43] just md5sum both packages, i bet they're exactamundo the same [07:43] alisonken1noc: i don't use the kernel that comes with slackware nor did i apply the new kernel from slackware, my doubt is cleared i guess,it should go along with glibc. But still confused about applying the header updates [07:45] based on the changelog, it looks like mancha said - the kernel was updated to add cve vuln patch, and the header package was updated to match [07:46] so if you're not running a changed gcc and you're using a custom kernel, then shouldn't have to worry about header updates [07:47] ah,i think its just -3.txz causing the problem, i should black list the headers in slackpkg to avoid future mambo jumbos :D [07:48] just upgrade the headers file then they'l all have the same naming convention that's why pat did it [07:48] Action: init[1] done :) [07:48] thank you Camarade_Tux alisonken1noc mancha :) [07:48] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [07:51] :) np [07:57] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.49.158) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:59] adamk__ (n=adamk@c-68-45-22-62.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] adamk__ (n=adamk@c-68-45-22-62.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [08:00] yht (n=yht@125.161.66.19) joined ##slackware. [08:02] mupi_ (n=mupi@84.20.246.189) joined ##slackware. [08:03] take care,folks...talk with all later..:D [08:03] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [08:06] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. 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[09:03] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:03] wow [09:03] thumbs, so it's not gonna work i suppose [09:03] what a configuration. [09:03] and bad since slackboy is getting lagged. [09:03] Nick change: pier_ -> pier [09:03] yeah - slackboy is touch about 3 entries in a short period [09:05] pier: not until TMSNC is updated, no. [09:05] thumbs, do u suggest any other text based client for msn, centerim also doesen't work.. [09:05] bitlbee :) [09:06] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] whats up [09:07] MoZes: pidgin includes finch which is text based [09:08] http://www.speedtest.net/result/648358131.png thats my wireless transfer rates.. .retarded.... why does it do double on the windows side? [09:15] maybe i should try ndswrapper instead of the slackbuild drivers [09:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:08] terminated like what happens when the terminator gets ahold of them [10:10] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] francog (i=francog@silenceisdefeat.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:12] init[1] (n=[A]kber@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [10:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] hitest: they're a god damn hospital, they're supposed to help people! [10:13] primum succurrere [10:14] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] e01 (n=OSCorp01@77.70.127.155) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:18] syn2fin (n=ichigo@76.104.20.48) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] acidchild (n=ash@septic.ziwall.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:31] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [10:31] firedix (n=firedix@host12.190-230-62.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Guest22507 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:32] Dominian: after install all this file.. anything need to config? [10:32] tracex: May want to check /etc/lilo.conf to make sure th enew kernel is there [10:32] and make sure to run lilo -v before rebooting [10:32] double-check entries in lilo.conf etc [10:33] Is there anyway I can speed up compilation , I suppose most of the time it perf IO operations, why not load the whole package into memory or make virt disck ? [10:33] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:34] You can [10:35] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.207.158) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] straterra: could you refer me somewhere ? [10:36] Google on how to make a ramdisk in linux [10:36] takes a bunch of ram sticks, a hammer, scissors and duct tape :-) [10:37] ram sticks, a hammer, scissors and duct tape ... miss only hammer but I can borrow ... [10:38] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] syn2fin (n=ichigo@76.104.20.48) left irc: "leaving" [10:39] you can ;-) [10:43] macgyver could compile a kernel with 2 paperclips and a stick of chewing gum... [10:43] Dominian: how to make sure th enew kernel is in /etc/lilo.conf [10:44] hmm to build 32 register you need 32 clips [10:44] 32 bit register [10:44] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] but can't the paperclip be used as condensator ... there's no use of it ... [10:45] sn18 (n=sunnynar@115.113.116.37) joined ##slackware. [10:45] mancha: chuck norris would just flex his muscles and the kernel would compile it self :p [10:45] sn18 (n=sunnynar@115.113.116.37) left ##slackware. [10:45] chuck norris runs 2.6.99 [10:46] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-43-167-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:46] im trying to get my damn wireless to run at full speed by using ndiswrapper... i installed the wrapper extracted the driver(cabextract) .. followed alien's wiki... i don't have b43-fwcutter/firmware installed. any ideas [10:46] hey I am on /mnt/ramdisk how to force the src2pkg to put its build files on that path ???????? [10:46] you don't need fw-utter if you're using ndiswrapper [10:46] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:46] shashidhar (n=shashi@117.198.246.175) joined ##slackware. [10:46] just the .inf/.sys [10:46] mancha: i just said i don't have it.. i should have said i uninstalled my bad. [10:47] so yea.. what's next i rebooted and nothing [10:47] did you install the driver into ndiswrapper? [10:48] shashidhar (n=shashi@117.198.246.175) left irc: Client Quit [10:48] ndiswrapper -l should tell you, irrc [10:48] iirc [10:49] kblessinggr (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] <_slax0r_> substanc1v, was it you yesterday who was asking about the slow connection over wireless? [10:49] i see wlan0 on iwconfig [10:50] I have Slackware 12.2 installed on a server, (apparently as minimal as it gets) and I'm trying to get gcc or another compiler installed so I can build from sources [10:50] <_slax0r_> my bad, you're still asking [10:50] _slax0r_: yea... there is nothing i can do with the reverse engineered modules for broadcom.. ndiswrapper will most likely speed me up [10:50] <_slax0r_> well I have realtek drivers, rt2x00 [10:50] <_slax0r_> and the effect is the same [10:51] ndiswrapper? [10:51] <_slax0r_> no, linux rt2500 driver [10:51] <_slax0r_> for ra-link mini-pci cards [10:51] <_slax0r_> haven't tried ndiswrapper for now [10:52] oh oh... ok /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper was added to the rc.inet1 script [10:52] Nick change: tracex -> _t_ [10:52] and its not loading i did ndiswrapper -i file.inf to install [10:52] err do you understand me ? [10:53] any clue how I can get gcc so i can actually start installing stuff [10:53] ? [10:53] install the gcc package [10:53] <_slax0r_> installpkg gcc*.txz? [10:54] *packages [10:54] kblessinggr: shouldn't be already on your install ? [10:54] paul424 it apparently was not, I kept getting a no suitable C compiler error [10:54] ls /var/log/packages/gcc* ? [10:55] no such file or directory [10:55] <_slax0r_> then you don't have 'em [10:55] <_slax0r_> either download 'em from the web [10:55] ok, so go install them, get your install media or dl from a mirror [10:55] <_slax0r_> or your dvd [10:55] um. Its a VPS on a webhosting provider, not like I can just pop a CD in [10:55] um ok so fix it [10:55] <_slax0r_> then download 'em [10:55] <_slax0r_> shees [10:55] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:55] <_slax0r_> sheesh* [10:56] I tried downloading but it said the tgz wasn't a valid package [10:56] bottom line, if you don't have the skillz, don't do minimal installs [10:56] I didn't really have a choice OpenVZ only had distro selections and a rebuild button [10:57] Zzzz [10:57] no option to install anything else at the beginning [10:57] <_slax0r_> ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/d/ [10:57] <_slax0r_> get everything that starts with gcc [10:57] <_slax0r_> even if it's an .txt/.txz :P [10:57] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] <_slax0r_> *.txz.asc [10:58] it is on a webhosting provider, you're wasting your time [10:58] <_t_> _slax0r_: how to make sure the new kernel is in /etc/lilo.conf.. after install kernel? [10:59] <_slax0r_> vi /etc/lilo.conf and see? [10:59] I'm interested in trying out Thunderbird 3, but it has a midding dep of libdbus-glib. Does anyone know if lignome frmo slackbuilds.org will provide that? [11:00] wow, my typing sux0r today...heh [11:00] "Cannot install gcc-4.3.3-i486-3.txz: package does not end in .tgz" [11:00] <_slax0r_> which version of slack are u using? [11:00] 12.2 [11:01] <_t_> _slax0r_: i dont see anything about kernel.. [11:01] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:01] <_slax0r_> sorry, my bad then: download here: ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/d/ [11:01] ahh that was 13 above i see [11:01] <_slax0r_> dude... [11:01] <_slax0r_> it's probably /boot/vmlinuz [11:02] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:02] OpenVZ [11:02] <_slax0r_> and it's probably a symlink to the kernel [11:02] <_slax0r_> ls -l /boot [11:02] <_slax0r_> to see where it's "pointing" at [11:02] is today april 1st? [11:02] total : 0 [11:03] <_slax0r_> what's total: 0 o.O [11:03] thats the response from ls -l /boot [11:03] <_slax0r_> errr...that was directed at _t_ [11:03] hcfd (n=fed@host86-142-136-40.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:03] hehe [11:03] <_slax0r_> you just download packages and install them [11:04] ok got gcc, gona see if i can get the rest from that ftp (wget, etc) [11:05] <_slax0r_> did it install? [11:05] it ended with "Executing installs script for gcc-4.2.4-i486... [11:05] <_slax0r_> whereis gcc [11:05] <_slax0r_> to find out if it installed [11:06] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] <_slax0r_> it shoulda [11:06] this is frustrating.. if anyone has experience with ndiswrapper let me know. [11:06] installed to /usr/bin/gcc /usr/lib, /usr/X11R6, and so on [11:07] I haven't needed ndiswraper in a long time..what card are we working with here? [11:07] gona download nginx and see if it compiles [11:07] jescis_ (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] substanc1v: maybe read this: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:ndiswrapper [11:07] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:08] hrm tried to build wget 1.12, but it complains that C Compiler cannot create executables [11:08] <_slax0r_> kblessinggr, then it's installed [11:08] <_slax0r_> well you'll also need a linker [11:09] <_slax0r_> probably the best idea is to download and install ALL packages from the source I gave you above [11:09] <_slax0r_> unless you know which packages you wont be needing [11:09] any easy way to do that without curl or wget on the server? [11:09] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:10] <_slax0r_> put into a bash script: wget ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/d/a* [11:10] <_slax0r_> wget ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/d/b* [11:10] <_slax0r_> etc [11:10] <_slax0r_> all letters of alphabet at the end with * [11:10] <_slax0r_> make it executable and run it [11:10] like i said, there's no wget on the server [11:10] uh why? [11:10] i was trying to compile wget [11:10] <_slax0r_> uh....oh [11:10] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Howd you get the source for it? [11:11] gnu wget site had it [11:11] _slax0r_: why not just rsync... [11:11] oh [11:11] And..how did you download the source? [11:11] YummyFTP via SSH [11:11] So..do the same for the wget package [11:11] or slackpkg install wget for that matter [11:11] <_slax0r_> spook, he doesn't know which packages to install so he can compile stuff, how's he gonna know how to configure rsync? [11:11] slackpkg uses wget [11:11] right now I just figured out it'll let me drag-drop the entire file listing from one server to the other [11:11] maddslacker: slackpkg depends on wget.... [11:11] slackpkg wasn't even installed on this thing [11:11] _slax0r_: its a one line rsync command... [11:12] wtf. [11:12] macavity, ah, I missed that part [11:12] sounds like a reinstall is going to be the quickest way [11:12] <_slax0r_> it's a VPS :P [11:12] right now I'm in OSX , got the FTP opened on one side via mapped drive, and dragged all those files over to YummyFTP , its currently uploading the 147MB or so [11:12] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:12] so download wget from the link _slax0r_ provided and installpkg it? [11:12] Or just SCP over wget [11:12] so it'll be done in roughly 20 mins [11:12] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-246.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:12] the wget package is small [11:12] or switch to windos [11:12] <_slax0r_> oh noes! [11:12] sven_ (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:12] <_slax0r_> don'tz do thatz [11:13] spook: I'd do that if it weren't for the fact it only lets me choose a limited set of distros, and they have their pre-configured setups [11:13] Action: straterra sighs [11:13] sigh. [11:13] lol, I'll stick to OSX for my working system mancha [11:13] straterra: shooting is too good for them [11:13] <_slax0r_> have you thought of changing the provider? [11:13] why would they bork the slackware install in the first place?!? [11:13] How about stabbing? [11:13] can I switch kicker panel using xrandr from LVS to VGA ? [11:13] so anyway, any takers on my Thunderbird 3 question? [11:13] macavity: they didnt bork it..they stripped a lot of stuff out [11:13] if people can get shell account they dont need wget/curl/rsync [11:13] straterra: nup its too personal and close [11:13] Common VPS solution [11:14] Nick change: _t_ -> tracex [11:14] straterra: his stupid might rub off on us [11:14] _slax0r_: my current provider that works and I find reliable is KnownHost, which is currently setup with CentOS 5.4 [11:14] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] .. bash can download via http natively [11:14] the one I'm testing now is DME Hosting with a budget 5.95/month VPS [11:14] kblessinggr: look in to Linode [11:14] Also..you could just SCP the wget package and be set [11:14] straterra: I didn't see the wget package in the package list provided [11:14] Go to any mirror [11:15] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:16] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/n/wget-1.11.4-i486-1.tgz [11:16] ^^ is that what all the fuss is about? [11:16] maddslacker: hehe originally but then found out i had a crapload of other stuff that wasn't installed by default :p [11:16] heh, nice [11:17] dep hunting ftw [11:17] I'm gona try all the packages _slax0r_ provided and go from there, its got bout 11 mins left [11:17] Action: straterra sighs [11:17] I'm assuming i can just do installpkg ./*.tgz ? :P [11:17] you can, yes [11:17] Don't do that [11:17] AsSUMING you have all the deps for whatever package [11:17] upgradepkg --install-new [11:17] right [11:18] installpkg will blindly install the package..even if its already installed [11:18] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:18] well let me do the wget package first, so i can do a wildcard download directly from the server [11:18] rather than this method [11:18] Thats what I was telling you [11:18] agreed [11:18] install wget and rsync [11:19] then just rsync the whole tree, minus KDE..and run ugpradepkg on the tree [11:19] i assume rsync will be in the /n/ folder as well [11:19] Dual-Screen Issue: can I switch kicker panel using xrandr from LDVS to VGA monitor ? if so how ???? [11:20] sven_, I think so? but the what you'd really be doing is setting the primary display [11:20] Traveler713 (n=traveler@LRouen-152-82-13-226.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:20] treid playing around with the options, but so far no luck :( [11:21] take it upstream to #kde [11:21] xrandr dow snot really support primary screen setup, as far as i know [11:21] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-93-57.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] ohhh wait I think I have found something [11:22] man xrandr? [11:23] viu (n=n@240-231-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "Out" [11:23] sven_, xrandr --primary blah [11:23] woohoo :P [11:23] (printf "GET www.google.com HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" 1>&3; cat 0<&3 ) 3<>/dev/tcp/www.google.com/80 [11:24] no need for wget :P [11:24] yep that was just waht i descoverd. will let you know [11:24] macavity: awesome [11:24] sven_ (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:24] spook: i find it somehow ugly :P [11:24] do -q first and it will tell you what it already understaqnds, then use that info to manipulate [11:24] macavity: sure but its still cool [11:25] Hi, I've got a problem with my 2 NICs with slackware 12.2, ping is ok (hostname or IP) but http requests never succeed...can anyone shed a light on my issue please? [11:25] kblessinggr_ (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] Traveler713: did you turn on httpd? [11:25] btw _slax0r_ out of curiousity , why the /letter* , as opposed to /* [11:25] Traveler713: did you load any firewall script? [11:25] macavity: got my skates yesterday, i love them [11:26] spook: cool :-) [11:26] <_slax0r_> kblessinggr, I might be wrong, but years ago when attempting to do just that /*, it failed to download, I think, I might be wrong tho [11:27] macavity: policy accept for input/output in iptables, httpd is not running...is it supposed to run for me to access internet? [11:27] Traveler713: maybe HTTPD isn't listening on the IP's? [11:27] Traveler713: ahh [11:27] Oh..trying to access webpages [11:28] because that is how file globbing works, ie what does "*" mean? [11:28] kblessinggr__ (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] got disconnected [11:28] kblessinggr (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:28] Nick change: kblessinggr__ -> kblessinggr [11:29] macavity: I've made the test with ping www.google.fr then ping with the corresponding address (time is correct) [11:29] Traveler713: (printf "GET www.google.com HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" 1>&3; cat 0<&3 ) 3<>/dev/tcp/www.google.com/80 [11:29] Traveler713: see what error message you get :P [11:30] macavity: ok [11:31] Busindre (n=Busindre@unaffiliated/busi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:32] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] wut wut... fixed the wireless [11:32] Traveler713 (n=traveler@LRouen-152-82-13-226.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [11:32] Java user signed off?!? [11:32] had to blacklist ssb. [11:32] lulz [11:32] Nick change: alisonken1hom2 -> alisonken1home [11:33] 14Mbit down 3Mbit up ... as opposed to 5Mbits down .75Mbit up [11:34] thats slightly akward, gcc exists, but when I try to configure nginx, it says C compiler gcc is not found [11:34] kblessinggr_ (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:35] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [11:36] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A55C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:36] shadowx (n=7350@93.183.131.3) joined ##slackware. [11:36] might it have anything to do with the gcc package being for i486, yet the ./configure routine detected i686 ? [11:36] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] kblessinggr: you can just make a symlink in /usr/bin/ for it [11:40] kblessinggr: i686-slackware-linux-gcc -> i486-slackware-linux-gcc [11:40] ok..lets try this again [11:40] rsync the whole damn tree and install it [11:40] the WHOLE tree [11:40] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:40] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:40] straterra++ [11:41] Action: kblessinggr looks for rsync package [11:42] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:42] kblessinggr: n/ [11:42] ahh :P [11:42] networking, duh [11:43] kblessinggr: just ask for tha packages [11:43] switch to windows [11:43] kblessinggr: i have a local copy of the tree, so find . -name what-kblessinggr-needs* is pretty easy [11:43] mancha: go get laid.. you're obviously frustrated ;-) [11:44] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:44] mancha, I think you meant to suggest n00buntu [11:44] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [11:44] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [11:44] hrm if they came up with an idiom for [11:44] what am i going to complain about now :\ im all ... slackified [11:44] O [11:45] OSX i haven't heard it yet [11:45] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:45] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:45] substanc1v: so, have you read all of www.slackbook.org? have you contributed any packages to slackbuilds.org? have you sent Patrick a fix for you favorite bug? [11:45] substanc1v: there is *plenty* to do once you are all slackified ;-) [11:46] for example, I just built a nice MythTV box on my slackware workstation [11:47] maddslacker: ive been meaning to do that for a while.. was it a PITA to get right? [11:47] yea i would love to ... :) [11:47] OSX is what you get when t3h gheys in black turtleneck sweaters redecorate freebsd [11:47] macavity, actually no [11:47] hehe [11:48] divine jobs doesn't want you to blashpeme, Pig_Pen [11:48] Pig_Pen: uhm, i *think* you should look at what macos actually ships again.. [11:48] kblessinggr (n=kblessin@c-71-205-27-224.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [11:48] I had to get a friend's help identifying a couple of options for mysql [11:48] calling MacOS a freebsd clone is an equal offence to both [11:48] and then the mythtv install was a breeze [11:48] thats pretty much like saying that GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD is the same.. [11:49] nvision (n=nvision@g225055025.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:49] maddslacker: i might ping you on those then [11:50] macavity, np...I'm still not sure what the magic was on mysql, but for mythtv, follw the deps on slackbuilds.org and it's straightforward [11:50] ok, slam dunk then [11:50] and several people on #mythtv-users are running slack, one of them helped me figure out the mythweb plugin [11:51] only real gotcha is you need IVTV for hauppauge tuners, but i think that was mentioned at slackbuild as well [11:51] good to know [11:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:52] macavity, I'm trying to run thunderbird 3, and I'm missing 'libdbus-glib' any ideas where on earth I can locate that? [11:52] I've checked slackbuilds and googled a little [11:52] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:53] dbus-glib-0.80-i486-1:usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0 [11:53] yes, install dbus-glib :P [11:53] hehe, maybe it's a 32 vs 64 bit issue actually [11:53] its in l [11:54] yup, I have it, but it's in lib64 [11:54] and tbird seems to be looking for it in lib [11:54] ah, follow alienBOB's tutorial on compat libs [11:54] already have and they're working (needed for citrix at work) [11:54] thats because you have the 32 bit firefox then [11:54] nope, 64bit ff [11:54] this is tbird at issue [11:54] oh right [11:55] then i'm out of ideas [11:55] but since my multilibs are all set, I assume I can just install the 32bit libdbus-glib package? [11:55] or is it not that simple? [11:55] you better grap hold on someone who is actually on slackware64 [11:56] i only bounce what i've heard others say [11:56] nvision (n=nvision@g225055025.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] Action: maddslacker grabs self [11:56] heh [11:57] maybe you can just explodepkg the 32 bit version and copy over the .so file [11:57] and use the install.sh to glean which symlinks are needed [11:57] q [11:57] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:57] macavity, exactly where I was headed...klugy...but should work [11:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [11:59] /var/log/packages/dbus-glib-0.80-x86_64-1:usr/lib64/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0 [11:59] BP{k}, yes, I have that [12:01] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-223-236.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] rafu (i=1000@77.53.11.217) left irc: "leaving" [12:02] shame fire|bird isn't around ... he had tb3 working I blieve. [12:02] as do I as of right now [12:02] yeah he did get it working [12:03] -> celebratory dance [12:03] Action: macavity makes note of the problem [12:03] oh wow that looks a lot different [12:03] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F71FD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:04] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:07] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:07] macavity, I installed the 32bit package straight up [12:07] prolly not the best solution, but it's working [12:07] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:10] xandrix (n=xandrix@dsl-155-22.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[12:41] macavity, agreed [12:42] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] done [12:43] that re-breaks thunderbird 3 though [12:43] maybe I should wait for a 64bit version of tbird [12:44] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [12:46] give it a bit, it'll be in 64-current eventually [12:46] yeah, that's what I'm saying [12:47] I'm not THAT revved up for it...heh [12:47] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:48] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:51] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: "Leaving." [12:52] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [12:54] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:04] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] The cow goes "schazoooooOOOOO" [13:05] acidchild, hai deer [13:05] nix_chix0r: :D [13:05] i need to become an elite coder or a stripper [13:05] one of the two [13:05] tehres bound to be a job i can do [13:05] that i'm not overqualified for:P [13:05] pft, those are the only industries making money these days [13:06] Oh, that and patent trolling [13:06] hmm [13:06] I've become pretty experienced at trolling, perhaps I just need to get patent certified? [13:06] yeah patent trolling roxz0r [13:06] what would you make better [13:06] alcohol that leaves no hangover [13:06] think! [13:07] what about an elite stripper who also codes? [13:07] man [13:07] or elite coder that also strips [13:07] i'd just tape a EEE to my butt [13:07] thats all your good for [13:07] ;/ [13:07] acidchild, i know [13:07] pretty pathetic [13:07] awe, jeez. [13:07] Just tattoo EEE to right of your buttcrack and claim to be IEEE certified [13:07] ahah [13:07] lol [13:07] That's right, I meet IEEE standards for stripping [13:08] yeah i could totally get a job at"Tunas" [13:08] "This is category 6 pussy, baby!" [13:08] that is the place of our local strip club [13:08] half price lapdances with an order of GTFO [13:08] l0lwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] Action: deco doesn't know where his local strip club is located at [13:09] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) joined ##slackware. [13:09] nix_chix0r: i lost them pictures of you sliding up and down a pole, wana resent [13:09] We have quite a few [13:09] ? [13:09] ! [13:09] it stays in vegas [13:09] nono, email. my DCC doesnt' work [13:09] Action: acidchild chuckles. [13:10] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:10] nix_chix0r: tell that to my herpes [13:10] oh mann [13:10] you got me [13:10] omg your the ##slackware 'Giver' [13:10] Action: maddslacker sends acidchild his copies [13:10] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] Action: nix_chix0r facepalms [13:10] don't accept my DCC [13:10] i wont. [13:11] i told you, your bf is gross [13:11] i dont wana see ;/ [13:11] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:11] #slackware currently resembles a chat room on aol [13:11] lol [13:11] xsamurai: a/s/l [13:11] xsamurai: Welcome to ##slackware as of the last 3 years [13:11] deco: ripe/anything you want/right behind you [13:11] hey why should I post the bug about the /dev/audio busy after running flash ? [13:11] i don't have a bf anymore [13:11] s/why/where/ [13:12] hmm flash adobe , right ? that's their fault ? [13:12] you shouldn't. because its not a bug. [13:12] Your baby dady left? [13:12] acidchild: not releasing the audio device after exiting the program most certainly is a bug. [13:12] paul424: and yes, adobe are the right people to speak with. [13:12] straterra: your nick reminds of zartara from count of monte cristo [13:13] straterra, no i'm married:P [13:13] nix_chix0r: I'm so confused [13:13] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:13] i had to get rid of all my boyfriends [13:13] That's your boyfriend then [13:13] define 'get rid of' [13:13] eviljames: yah, but common its flash... [13:13] eviljames: ok I will crush those pussy lames. [13:13] 'get rid of' GTA style [13:13] uhhhhhh, basement maddslacker [13:13] human taxidermy isn't so bad [13:13] o wait its zatara , anyways back to work [13:13] paul424: hahahahahaha that time your translation was _perfect_ [13:13] :D [13:13] you know they can create movable joints [13:13] i have seen that bug as well, seems to be worst with youtube, however I just updated flash last night and haven't seen it yet [13:14] nix_chix0r: they better in bed that way? [13:14] nix_chix0r, I see where you're headed with that [13:14] acidchild, well you don't need the magic pill that's fo sho [13:14] :| [13:14] heh, and they stay in that condition, well, permanently [13:14] i kid [13:14] not so bad [13:14] me and you can't be friends. [13:15] acidchild, come on please! [13:15] we can be best pals [13:15] i will give you a winterm [13:15] yes... *evil laugh* beg for my acceptance. [13:16] bah screw that, i'll go to offtopic and find my real friends!!! [13:16] \o/!!! [13:16] you're almost a canadian anyway [13:16] haha [13:16] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [13:16] almost is just as bad [13:16] totally [13:16] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:16] all he has is kraft dinner [13:16] poutine [13:16] Maybe he should go oot and aboot to get more dinner [13:17] ha [13:17] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.14.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.78.158) joined ##slackware. [13:17] ;o [13:17] ooot and aboot around the hooose [13:17] abused and thrown to the dogs. [13:17] the doogs [13:17] omw [13:18] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [13:18] Guys, if there's one part of Canadiana that needs to be made fun of more, it's Pizza Pops. [13:18] wut? [13:18] I am looking for a program that can make graphs, like social networks. X knows Y, Z is X's brother, A is Y spouse.. etc.. Do you know where I can find one? [13:18] Poutine is delicious, KD is a staple. Pizza Pops otoh are some kind of ungodly creation. [13:18] Delicious, but ungodly. [13:18] and their donut chain that doesn't accept plastic, [13:18] Azeotrope: visio? [13:18] Azeotrope: Manually via dia? [13:18] poutine is nasty, KD makes me shit blood and pizza pops are for the ghetto folk. [13:19] Action: eviljames shudders at the mention if visio [13:19] i had to walk 4blocks to get cash [13:19] nix_chix0r: timhortons accept mastercard ;x [13:19] get it right! [13:19] acidchild: .. poutine is nasty? This doesn't even make sense... is it even English or French? [13:19] timhortons on the border does not take plastic [13:19] timmyho's accepts everything. [13:19] fort francis [13:19] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:19] missy elliott ! [13:20] international falls area [13:20] nix_chix0r: franchise, probably trying to run as close to cash-only as possible [13:20] eduardmatrix (n=eduardma@190.27.180.209) joined ##slackware. [13:20] and it always smells like broccoli farts [13:20] like your bed then [13:20] i think it's the papermill [13:20] broccoli farts actually made me gag slightly. [13:20] eviljames: via dia? [13:20] what is the offtopic channel for here anyways [13:21] i always thought ## was offtopic [13:21] straterra: visio? it's the name? [13:21] How can i see if my Slackware have the dependence library for any package that i want install [13:21] Azeotrope: visio is on windows, dia is linux/unix [13:21] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-xzzjhptmcudcruyq) joined ##slackware. [13:22] eduardmatrix: usually when you compile, if you're using a slackbuild then it should be in the README [13:22] hey all, anyone successfully running moonlight on slackware? [13:22] rogersman: which is ? [13:22] OK.. I read it but it didn't say the dependeces library [13:22] i try to Install Wine with Slackbuild [13:23] acidchild: ## = unofficial. [13:23] eviljames: i knaw :P [13:23] oh heh [13:23] xsamurai: it's linux implementation of silverlight [13:23] eviljames: ## == offtopic && unoffical [13:24] rogersman: what uses it? havent seen anything yet besides maybe microsoft stuff [13:24] something like this http://www.orgnet.com/inflow3.html [13:24] acidchild: well, the -offtopic channel was originally created with the intent of moving discussions of that nature out of chan while on-topic discussions are taking place [13:24] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:25] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:26] Azeotrope: that im pretty sure cant be generated in visio or dia, you can a. write some code or b. buy the software [13:26] sahk0: quite a few new web sites are beginning to use it....it's got some really impressive abilities, and in contrast with flash, the player and SDK are open source [13:27] silverlight is microsoft's answer to flash plugin, not widely adopted like most of microsoft's other crap (msjvm) [13:27] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:28] eduardmatrix: in that case, check slacky.eu they attach requirements with their builds, you can use that as a check list [13:28] ide be the first to deride the microsoft ogre, but adobe needs in kick in the arse when in comes to flash development....healthy competition can only be good for everyone [13:28] rogersman: i've done some flash development in the past, how is this better ? [13:29] xsamurai: the best way to persuade u is to have a look at some sample web pages [13:29] video playback is amazing [13:30] if html-5 ever gets off the ground it will put all plugins like flash and java out of business [13:30] Pig_Pen: we went over web 3.0 the other day, enough already [13:30] hehe [13:31] worldwidetelescope is pretty freakin awesome despite being a dreaded 'micro$oft' project [13:32] tell me a good movie [13:32] Azeotrope: 300 [13:32] 666 [13:32] deco: thats beyond gay [13:32] as expected from an OC guy [13:32] xsamurai: stfu [13:32] i love that movie [13:32] <3 [13:33] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94.195.251.249) left irc: Success [13:33] deco: you like watching dudes prance around in their underwear's wearing red capes [13:33] xsamurai: yup [13:33] and bearded [13:33] the spartans did practice ritual homosexual orgies though ... [13:33] rogersman: yes [13:33] stomanata (n=stomanat@90.154.238.9) joined ##slackware. [13:33] rogersman: it created stronger bonds on the battlefield [13:33] deco: i want something less gay [13:33] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: No route to host [13:33] hahaha [13:34] Azeotrope: go on imdb research there, not here [13:34] Azeotrope: a dildo ? [13:34] hehe i love telling 300 lovers that one! [13:35] are not a easy way to check all my librarys dependence to make a comparation [13:35] hi [13:35] can somebody tell me [13:36] link with instruction [13:36] tuxdev: Maybe if you state your problem? [13:36] eduardmatrix: since you didnt listen to my instructions earlier , here's a link http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/utilities/wine/1.1.34/src/slack-required [13:36] how to install web cam from alienBOB [13:36] he sells webcams now [13:36] i don't want to be offtopic so i'll ask for a movie I can see on slackware. a good movie [13:36] I wasn't aware I had a problem.. right now [13:36] Azeotrope: not in here [13:37] stomanata: tell you what ? [13:37] alienBOB, have somewhere post how to install web cam [13:37] list of needed packages and so..... [13:37] stomanata: you check google ? [13:38] or his webpage [13:38] i need the link, from where to read hot to set ut my web cam [13:38] yes. alien bob webcam [13:38] but no effect :) [13:38] alienbob doesn't make webcams [13:39] probecams perhaps? [13:39] drivers :) [13:39] haha [13:39] no hardware :) [13:40] a need xvid, uvc and so and so..... [13:40] but somewhere alienBOB [13:40] write all needed programs and settings [13:40] What? [13:40] Alienbob doesnt make webcams [13:41] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:41] the gspca stuff he has now is obsolete.. it's been mainlined [13:41] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:43] khgkljg (n=root@151.53.30.20) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:43] khgkljg kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [13:44] stomanata (n=stomanat@90.154.238.9) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] hahah every time I think this goes on in someone's brain. [13:45] "Ugh, I have a problem.. I know, someone on IRC will be able to help me figure it out, I'll just use a random nick" *kickban for IRC as root* "FSCK!#@!" [13:45] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [13:45] haha [13:46] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:46] eduardmatrix (n=eduardma@190.27.180.209) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:47] yht (n=yht@125.161.66.19) left irc: "Leaving" [13:50] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:51] dont really get why someone logged in as root gets kicked out tho...surely getting your system f**ked by some malicious hacker would be the best way to convert someone to being more secure in the future [13:52] rogersman: no..because they may never realize that happened [13:52] surely thats *their* problem though, not ours....why bother kicking them? [13:53] kinda like forcing cyclists to wear helmets... [13:53] because we're nice and don't like to see people punished for merely being ignorant [13:53] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:54] and by "punished", something far worse than a mere kick [13:54] though there is definitely no stigma attached to burning an ignorant person....esp on this channel [13:54] what can i use as soft phone at slack 13 ? [13:54] :) [13:54] i'm looking at googl, some recomendation ? [13:54] x-ip: twinkle [13:54] only needs to have sip support [13:54] thanks straterra :) [13:55] rogersman, continued displays of blantant ignorance deserves some burn [13:55] straterra: it says that it doesnt support qt4 ;_; [13:56] I feel it's an event vs. pattern of behaviour thing [13:56] and slack 13 has kde4 with qt4 ;_; [13:56] tuxdev: sure, though i think i rather being kicked than burned...at least in the literal sense :-p [13:58] anyone ever ran make localmodconfig yet on there kernel ? [13:58] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:59] metrofox did :P [13:59] with success i hope ? [13:59] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-120-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [13:59] ill jsut try it i guess [13:59] iv had worse things happen [13:59] yes, although he complained his webcam wasn't working; he hadn't plugged it while running localmodconfig [14:00] ahh [14:00] thanx for the info [14:00] read the doc :P [14:00] k thanx [14:04] Scuzz: take a look at the config after ;) there's always something on [14:05] you are correct, im seeing some video drivers still [14:06] but i think it was form the difference in configs from old kernel to new kernel [14:07] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.216) left irc: [14:58] Nick change: nix_chix0r -> Waffle [14:59] does anybody have docutils-0.6 built with the SBo package? can you try a simple test? [14:59] Nick change: Waffle -> nix_chix0r [15:00] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) joined ##slackware. [15:01] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.71.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] <_slax0r_> hi, at the end of each song amarok switches to the next one in line but doesn't play it, just stops there, anyone know what's causing this? [15:04] repeat flag switched off perhaps? [15:04] bug in amarok? [15:04] <_slax0r_> which repeat flag? [15:04] <_slax0r_> I don't want the same song to repeat to infinity [15:05] <_slax0r_> I want the next song in line played [15:05] <_slax0r_> and it's not [15:05] well, music players have two flags usually [15:05] repeat and random [15:05] <_slax0r_> repeat is set to repeat playlist [15:06] tracex (n=inetd@198.146.80.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:06] _slax0r_: I'd also try to run amarok from console, maybe it would dump some useful debug message [15:07] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:07] <_slax0r_> good idea [15:08] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:08] <_slax0r_> this is bs... [15:09] <_slax0r_> when I run it from console it works [15:09] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.193.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] lol [15:09] <_slax0r_> it's working now [15:10] <_slax0r_> closed it down and opened it from kicker and it works [15:10] <_slax0r_> o.O [15:10] amarok 1.x used to run without kde, only kdelibs. amarok2 is unusable so hopefully I'll never run it again [15:10] _slax0r_: yep. intermittant failure [15:11] _slax0r_: I saw the same thing. try stopping your playlist, adding something to it, then picking one song from it and playing [15:11] panzer__ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [15:11] <_slax0r_> erm...to lazy to :) [15:12] _slax0r_: thta's my problem, I never bother to really troubleshoot anything.. find a work around and move on with life :P [15:12] <_slax0r_> that's the spirit! :) [15:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-209-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:13] always defaulting to find a workaround is an extreme practice as bad as doing everything from scratch everytime something goes wrong [15:14] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-209-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:15] unless its something that has to be fixed, i usually employ the kick or shake method till it works and continue to watch star trek reruns [15:15] <_slax0r_> let's just say that as long as music is playing I really don't have time to debug amarok [15:15] lol [15:16] mpd is pretty good for that [15:16] as soon as you turn off resampling so it won't eat all CPU :) [15:17] agreed, _slax0r_, as long as amarok plays, i don't care. When it stops I make it play again and move on [15:17] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) joined ##slackware. [15:18] evanton: While that is true, deciding whta is and is not trivial to chase after and debug is a more important skill than actually debugging [15:18] so, nobody with docutils-0.6 installed? my question got scrolled up and become invisible [15:19] not I, anyhow [15:20] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hello [15:20] I suspect an issue with it, but I want at least one more person to confirm it [15:21] evanton: such as? [15:21] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:21] BP{k}: do you have it installed? [15:21] I need somebody to perform an one-line test in the python interpreter and see if he gets a traceback too [15:22] evanton: once again .. such as? [15:22] hold on a sec [15:22] import docutils.parsers.rst [15:22] type this in a python interactive session, do you get a traceback? [15:22] no. [15:23] ArdAmAx (n=arpa@mail2.ijf.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] evanton: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Kp8VoH87.html [15:24] BP{k}: you have docutils-0.6? [15:24] *sigh* I hate people asking fscking stupid questions. [15:24] I've updated today from 0.5 to 0.6 and I'm getting this [15:25] <_slax0r_> hmz...whiez iz $QTDIR empty? [15:25] http://pastebin.ca/1710036 [15:25] <_slax0r_> shouldn't it be set by default? [15:25] it gets set on login [15:25] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [15:25] _slax0r_: chmod +x /etc/profile.d/qt4.sh? [15:25] I'll try to rebuild one more time [15:25] oh, its called QT4DIR now [15:26] evanton: considering I actually responded to your question you can damn well assure I have it installed, otherwise I would not bother replying. [15:27] just wanted to make sure, since everything used to work before the update [15:27] <_slax0r_> macavity, (s)thank you very much :) [15:27] <_slax0r_> (sp)* [15:27] I'm trying to figure out if it's a problem with 0.6 or with me [15:28] evanton: you can see it complaining about not being able to import roman [15:28] evanton: the only thing I can think of is that my system isn't a clean one at the moment. And that it's slackware64-current. [15:28] docutils import states which imports roman [15:29] which im assuming you dont have [15:29] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:29] ohhh, I figured it out! [15:29] I had 0.5 installed [15:29] it worked, it had roman installed [15:29] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] setup of 0.6 detected it and didn't include it into the package [15:29] I've removed 0.5 and installed 0.6 [15:30] ok, I'm silly, I admit it [15:30] evanton: slap yourself [15:30] no further comments. ;) [15:31] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got lost in the net-split. [15:31] this seems to be a special case when removing a package and installing a newer version is not the same as upgrading [15:32] upgradepkg does just that [15:32] macavity: the trick about docutils is that a newer slackware package must be built after removing the old one [15:33] so it wouldn't find that roman module and would include it [15:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:33] macavity: i like drugs [15:33] evanton: ahh [15:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection timed out [15:33] How can I tell what filesystem drivers are compiled into the kernel? [15:34] I usually build a newer package first, then remove the old one from the system [15:34] ccfreak2k: grep the kernel config from /proc for specific values? [15:34] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [15:38] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). 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[15:44] jescis_ (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:44] JK3MP, does slackpkg work? [15:44] ccfreak2k: well, it's a good practice to bundle a compiled kernel with its config [15:44] so grep that [15:45] what is slackgrade? *googles* [15:45] eviljames: thats only if he has the source [15:45] panzer__ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:46] oh dear oh dear ... [15:46] errr i missed the previous line [15:46] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:46] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [15:46] eviljames: disregard odd comment [15:46] JK3MP: I suggest you go do what thrice` suggested and use slackpkg [15:46] JK3MP: according to the channel guidelines, 3rd party package managers are flat out not supported [15:46] BP{k}: slackgrade is a thing? I figured it was a shortening of slackpkg upgrade [15:47] JK3MP: at least that thing didn't manage to destroy your system yet, because it is buggy and doesn't work :-) [15:47] =P WIll try slackpkg. [15:47] eviljames: no it's one of those package managers ..buit's a a 0.0.2 release from 2004 .. which pretty much says the author couldn't give a monkeystoss about it. [15:48] BP{k}: oh dear indeed. [15:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:48] at least it just segfaults instead of doing anything [15:48] ;) [15:48] JK3MP: You are better off using slackpkg [15:48] thrice`: that was exactly my point [15:48] thrice`: indeed. it might be the most usefull thing it does. ;) [15:49] Dominian: I got that and it seems to be working fine, thank you. [15:49] l0lwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] :) [15:49] np [15:52] is there anyway to get back into slackware after my boot sector was overwritten by windows, i tried putting in my old slackware 12 disk and doing "boot:hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda2" where sda2 is my slackware partiton but it says that its invalid [15:53] l0lwut: i bet slackware12 saw it as hda2? [15:56] so Its hanging saying there is a "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,2)" and above that it says please append a correct root= and lists it as sda2 below [15:57] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] could the problem be that I'm using ext4 as my file system and 12 doest support it or something? [15:57] lol [15:58] slackware12 does not support ext4 [15:58] that's why I usually make /boot a separate ext2 partition just for the kernel [15:58] shit lol [15:58] well, what can i do? [15:59] l0lwut: find some kind of live disk that does support ext4 [15:59] l0lwut: boot it, chroot into slackware, run lilo [15:59] l0lwut: how did you install slackware? [16:00] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] upgrade from 12.x -> 13, or clean install? [16:00] usb, [16:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] clean [16:00] do you still have that usb key? [16:00] yeah but it wont boot from it for some reason [16:00] bugger.. [16:00] yeah.. [16:01] how does chroot work? [16:01] you mount the slackware partition in like /mnt/slackware [16:02] then you litterally type "chroot /mnt/slackware" [16:02] after that, all commands you run in that shell will run off the slackware system [16:02] k, Do you know if backtrack 2 supports ext4 [16:02] i havent gotten the foggiest [16:03] well crossing my fingers as it boots up [16:03] i wouldnt touch if with a firepoke if my life depended on it [16:03] why not? [16:03] and i wouldnt be cought dead having it on me [16:03] l0lwut: I doubt it will have. [16:03] its a script kiddie CD for crying out loud [16:03] as a side note why the hell does windows 7 overwrite everything wth [16:03] lol.. every copy of windows restores the factory bootloader on the disk [16:05] lilo itself has a chroot option IIRC [16:06] yes, -r [16:06] but then you cant get to mount /proc if need be [16:06] so, i maintain that doing it by hand is the safest approach [16:06] also, it tends to teach people something :P [16:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [16:07] yeah, it doesnt even see the disk. [16:07] lol [16:07] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.0.203) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] your screwed then.. unless you have a blank disk and a fast connection [16:07] *disc [16:07] well i do but im on a netbook w/o a cd drive [16:08] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.55.102) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:08] will the usbloader for slack13 work? if it can get it to boot [16:08] yes [16:09] the initrd environemnt on the usbloader has mount/chroot etc [16:10] ugh. Hans Reiser strikes again. [16:10] kernel 2.6.31.x and reiser4 causing random corruptions. [16:11] leave the man alone [16:11] it's not fair to have fun of him [16:11] ArdAmAx (n=arpa@mail2.ijf.hr) left irc: "back to real life (;" [16:12] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.0.203) joined ##slackware. [16:12] it's not fair for me to have to shutdown every couple days and fsck.reiser4 --build-fs ... [16:12] So..dont use reiser4? [16:12] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-xzzjhptmcudcruyq) left ##slackware. [16:12] it's been fine otherwise. [16:13] been using it for years, only had problems in one other kernel minor rev. [16:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:14] mario______ (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:15] I think that might have been the 2.6.16.x or 2.6.18.x ver [16:15] how shitty, i spend 260$ on a motherboard and it isnt shipped able to boot from a pen drive i have to update my bios >_< [16:15] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [16:15] makerc (n=godzila@201-95-150-175.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:19] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.193.141) joined ##slackware. [16:19] ubuntu rulez!! [16:19] oops! [16:19] :P [16:19] Action: evanton eats dios_mio [16:19] :D [16:23] evanton: no oral performances in the main ## [16:23] evanton: please use ##slackware-offtopic for stuff like that :P [16:23] sure [16:23] he started first :D [16:24] l0lwut: That definitely sucks. [16:24] also, ##slackware-offtopic if you just want to hang out with some generally sick people like eviljames [16:24] oh.. and the even sicker ones like me :P [16:24] yay channelspam [16:25] I prefer to hang out AFK [16:25] ew, you venture out into the big blue room? [16:25] evanton: whut?.. like walk around in the big blue room? [16:26] I don't know any blue room jokes, frankly [16:26] gutts_ (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-147-2.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:26] its ultrageek for "outside" [16:26] yeah, outside of every computer room is a "big blue room" [16:28] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-209-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:28] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] evanton (n=lol@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:33] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[16:50] virtualboy? Wasn't that the 3d goggles nintendo tried to make us all play tennis on? [16:50] supershoe0: we usually play with each other [16:51] supershoe0: isn't that kind of....abandoned? [16:51] um..no [16:51] akira42 (n=tetsuo@88.73.213.136) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] omg.....does noone play the gameboy advance emulater? [16:52] mm...yes it is [16:52] look at vba-m [16:52] supershoe0: exactly, what is it? maybe I can give it a try... kinda tired of playing with myself :p [16:52] vba-m? [16:52] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] supershoe0: vba-m is an actively developed gba emulator, based on vba and some of its forks [16:53] supershoe0, I've heard of it, and possibly used it. But I only used it on windows, and vba is confusing because of microshaft ;-) [16:54] supershoe0: please do not pm me without asking me beforehand [16:54] 123465789 [16:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:55] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.0.203) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] supershoe0 (i=DCEmuUse@ACA216B9.ipt.aol.com) left ##slackware. [16:58] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZL005106.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:59] so, now we are not only considered linux pros, but also highly skilled gameboy players [16:59] interesting [16:59] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Success [16:59] ? [17:00] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d75-154-227-166.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:02] <_slax0r_> errr...I need pgsql support in qt4, is there anywhere a prebuilt slackpack qt4 with pgsql support? or am I just going to have to recompile? [17:03] If it is for work: http://xkcd.com/303/ [17:03] <_slax0r_> oh lol :D [17:03] <_slax0r_> gotta show dat in work :D [17:03] <_slax0r_> it's not for work :P [17:04] _slax0r_: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libqsqlpsql/ [17:05] <_slax0r_> thanks...now I can't slack off :( [17:06] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-246.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:07] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] edman007, deco wants you [17:10] wha? [17:10] he said [17:10] he said something bad [17:10] not allowed to repeat it [17:10] o_0 [17:10] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] linux_probe, .. [17:10] o_O yus [17:11] why did you follow me in here [17:11] nix_chix0r: ohh? [17:11] Nick change: impulse- -> impy [17:11] Action: deco cries [17:11] i'll force it out of you! [17:11] i've been here for months and months [17:11] though i rarley talk :) [17:11] and i'm indiana, so its not as far either [17:11] nowai [17:11] linux_probe: show logs! [17:11] I'm in Indiana too [17:11] edman007, oki [17:12] i dont log [17:12] it starts with an F [17:12] and ends in E [17:12] Iron? [17:12] straterra: where? [17:12] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:12] edman007: I live on the southside of Indianapolis..right now I'm at one of my company's plants in Monticello [17:12] -NickServ- Registered : May 01 02:06:14 2007 (2 years, 32 weeks, 0 days, 20:06:10 ago) [17:12] ok, then i been here for about 2 years and 32 weeks :) [17:12] Action: edman007 is in bloomington [17:13] That's not too far at all [17:13] this was one the first chans i joined then. [17:13] how far am i from you then? [17:13] you guys can like date [17:13] Lets find out with..google! [17:13] straterra, are you gona date [17:13] jinx [17:13] nix_chix0r: heh [17:13] Action: Alan_Hicks guess nix_chix0r lives about halfway between Cobalt and Maganese [17:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:14] Google says an hour and a half [17:14] alisonken1home: ^5 [17:14] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:14] err, Alan_Hicks ^5 [17:14] ohh [17:14] Alan_Hicks, i live in the yukon [17:15] nix_chix0r lives in nowhere land [17:15] You're more south than I [17:15] but not all that far [17:15] straterra: well my flight out is tomorrow at 2pm [17:15] I could prolly make it there in..hmm..45 minutes [17:15] Oh..you don't live here [17:15] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:16] no, at a hotel [17:16] crappy internet :( [17:16] oh [17:16] go visit [17:16] right nao [17:16] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] I'm at work [17:16] edman007, likes steak [17:16] Action: edman007 is going out to eat in 45 minutes [17:16] nix_chix0r: i went to the steak place yesterday [17:16] dangit [17:17] i wana go to ruby tuesdays [17:17] and get moar salad bar [17:17] today is is going to be the scholars inn, my coworkers say its good [17:17] and they its all college people [17:17] Salad bar? What are you, gay? [17:17] they have tons of stuff on the salad bar [17:17] gay [17:17] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [17:17] best part is i'm not paying for my dinner :D [17:18] yeah i am [17:18] dangint [17:18] spent $30 at the steak place yesterday...and i'm getting reimbursed [17:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.193.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:22] madbear (n=dude@83.253.152.125) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [17:31] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.32.135) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:34] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZL005106.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [17:35] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [17:35] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:37] it's the final count down! [17:38] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:39] it's the final count down!! [17:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:45] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] when updating java do i just copy the unpack jre content to /usr/lib/java ??? [17:46] ?? [17:46] ???? [17:47] i'm updating my java [17:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.53.45) joined ##slackware. [17:47] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.53.45) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:47] just wondering if i just copy the unpack content from jre director into /usr/lib/java [17:47] or am I doing it wrong? [17:47] why are you updating? [17:48] trimmer (n=trimmer@71-213-237-159.cdrr.qwest.net) left irc: "Haha, you quit!" [17:48] BrunoCabraL_ (i=dsmay@189.24.5.93) joined ##slackware. [17:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:48] do I need to give u a reason y i'm updating it? [17:49] yes [17:49] Some people just enjoy updating. look at fire|bird [17:49] you can use the slackbuild to create an updated package, and use "upgradepkg" [17:49] BrunoCabraL_ (i=dsmay@189.24.5.93) left irc: Client Quit [17:50] makes them feel bette abou themselves [17:50] better about* [17:50] i don't blame them [17:50] yah its my fix...*sarcasm [17:50] i have to take a test online for soem reason its java base [17:50] and for some reason its not loading properly [17:51] that's because it's java [17:51] it's supposed to not work properly [17:51] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [17:53] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fox [17:54] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:54] pprkut: but.. but.. but... it's Java! It works everywhere!!!!1!! [17:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:55] Nick change: bleeding|edge -> fire|bird [17:55] will try slackbuild method.. [17:55] eviljames: you mean, it fails everywhere. That it does indeed very well [17:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.229) joined ##slackware. [17:56] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:58] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.49.51) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:04] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.49.51) joined ##slackware. [18:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) left irc: [18:07] Bonsoir, hello [18:07] acidchild (i=ash@noobfarm.org) left irc: "woop" [18:08] ash_ (i=ash@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Nick change: ash_ -> acidchild [18:10] gutts_ (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-147-2.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:10] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] sup hommies [18:11] harls (n=gabba@pool-173-69-205-71.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] whats up [18:12] oh, you were doing something productive? [18:12] oh thats cool [18:12] http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/852/Alien+Rampage.html [18:12] fredoslack: http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/yay.jpg [18:13] mdr [18:13] antiwire, http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [18:13] ;-) [18:13] lol [18:14] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] -_- [18:17] antiwire, sup man, how ya been? [18:17] all good [18:18] busy at work [18:19] antiwire: still liking that job or what? [18:19] I like it but it is hectic [18:19] antiwire, i got my Linux+ exam this saturday :x [18:19] wish me luck [18:20] break a leg beatzz [18:20] antiwire: right on, well keeps you busy anyway. [18:21] yep [18:21] and I get to troubleshoot totally crazy network isues [18:21] issues* [18:21] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] align all the noodles in this bowl of spaghetti [18:22] like the other day I was bitching in here about a random network issue which took out their voice vlan...it ended up being a network printer which someone had plugged into the switch port of an IP phone [18:22] antiwire: yeah I've seen one or two you've talked about here. I've been like, what the......... [18:22] it caused a DHCP NACK storm [18:22] Patrick << http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Fume/0072.gif [18:23] hahaha....see [18:23] Action: chopp googles DHCP NACK storm [18:24] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:24] ananke, [18:24] antiwire, * [18:24] do Patrick comes here sometimes ? [18:24] from time to time yeah [18:25] i've never seen him here :( [18:26] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:29] it's the final countdooooooown [18:29] << mode Europe [18:29] =) [18:31] (*_*) [18:32] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:32] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:34] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "Leaving..." [18:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210fd.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [18:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [18:43] alpha (n=alpha@host242.190-230-52.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:43] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.66.86) joined ##slackware. [18:43] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-120-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [18:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.76.140) joined ##slackware. [18:46] hi, im having a problem, after installing slackware 13, the boot stops BEFORE slackware, it show a menu that says a bunch of options. F1: Linux, F2: Linux, F3:Linux and other ones related to PXE. Then it stays: Boot: F1, if i press any key, a # character is printed, i get stucked, if i type the F's related to PXE, it says, BOOT FAILURE and other stuff. I can boot anything [18:46] any idea? [18:46] i used the salckware live-cd to boot now [18:47] salckware live-cd? huh? slackware does not have a live cd [18:47] not sure about salckware either [18:47] i mean, the instalation CD [18:48] it doesn't hit lilo? [18:48] no [18:48] it stops before LILO [18:48] when things go wrong it feels like sulkware [18:48] google says that is because a hardware error, but everything seems to work [18:51] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "peace :D" [18:52] hmm [18:52] jeev [18:52] here is a post in spanish of a guy having the same problem as me, no one answered him.. http://linux-cd.com.ar/foro2/free-bsd/xubuntu-y-freebsd-7-2/ [18:52] jeev: gimme a shell [18:55] alpha, explain to me what you installed on this drive and in what order... [18:56] hba (n=hba@148.208.237.69) left irc: "leaving" [18:57] mancha, i have 2 HD's, this problem appeard since i installed FreeBSD in another partition... I decided to install Slackware over it, and now i get his. The screen shows F's with every Slackware partition, /boot, /home, /, and another F's who is named Disk Drive 1 or something like that. Below there is another one labeled PXE. [18:58] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-75.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] If i press Disk Drive 1, i get a line printed wich says GRUB, what is strange because im using LILO [18:58] seems fbsd has written to your mbr [18:58] if i press the PXE one, i get an error [18:58] mancha, yes, i was thinking of that [18:58] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:59] any solution? [18:59] didn't you install lilo to the mbr, though? [18:59] pfff deco [18:59] thrice`, yes [18:59] thrice, you should be in handjob, not handbrake! [18:59] alpha not successfully [19:00] jeev: i'll share my pr0n stash with you [19:00] what can i do? [19:00] if you had installed lilo to mbr (ie install slack _after fbsd) then you'd get a lilo prompt [19:00] if you can boot a CDrom you do not even need that PXE usb boot thing [19:00] sounds like lilo failed to install [19:00] if slackware is already installed, boot the media, and chroot into your slack partition and re-run lilo [19:00] fidesrat1o (n=fidesrat@83.170.105.40) left irc: "leaving" [19:01] this time use some verbosity, -vv should be plenty [19:01] use the install CD to boot your installed system, then fix lilo after making sure /etc/lilo.conf is in good working order [19:01] urthwrm (n=hooch@124-170-197-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:01] Pig_Pen, that exactly what i did, im on MY SYSTEM [19:01] ill try fixing LILO... [19:01] or lilo mode expert [19:01] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:02] it's work very well [19:02] then, if you're chroot'd in, run "lilo -v" and see what it complains about [19:02] alpha pastebin.com your lilo.conf and also the output when you run /sbin/lilo -vv [19:02] mancha, ok, hold on [19:03] lilo.conf http://pastebin.com/m7ff1dd46 [19:03] i think i know the reason... [19:03] my HD is /dev/sda [19:03] lilo says: boot = /dev/hdc [19:03] then why /dev/hdc? [19:03] :) [19:03] i dont knopw [19:03] ive didnt typed hdc [19:04] there you go, now fix it [19:04] do i have to run lilo now? [19:04] arcfide (i=arcfide@140-182-232-243.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:04] to apply the changes? [19:04] yeah change to boot=/dev/sda and re-run lilo [19:05] done [19:05] did it say it was success ? [19:05] successful [19:05] ill reboot. with some lucky ill be here in 5 min [19:05] did you run with -vv as i asked? [19:05] :) [19:05] mancha, ok [19:05] hold on [19:06] if it doesn't bark at you no need to pastebin...just reboot and things'll likely be good [19:06] basically, it says: 2 warning were issued [19:07] ill reboot... [19:07] i love the weather forecast for tomorrow. high 35 degrees. won't get much hotter than freezing [19:07] pi31415 heh [19:08] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) joined ##slackware. [19:08] alpha (n=alpha@host242.190-230-52.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:09] root (n=root@host242.190-230-52.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:09] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:09] root kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [19:09] pi31415: you can freeze eggs on the sidewalk! [19:09] heh [19:09] do you need to add butter? [19:09] rock salt [19:09] k [19:10] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] and as was said on MASH, "drop your pants and slide on the ice" [19:10] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] twice [19:11] you can't fool me thrice! [19:12] heh [19:12] still cant get snow delivered [19:13] he's not returning :| [19:13] if i was snowbound i would be selling it on craigslist and ebay [19:13] heh [19:13] snow for sale [19:13] what colors? [19:14] lol [19:14] white and yellow [19:14] no brown? [19:14] or gray? [19:14] or red? [19:14] that's evidence [19:14] cant sell that [19:14] lol [19:14] could be snow cones :] [19:14] you hear about the kid who kissed a light pole? [19:15] hmmm no but ive seen in that christmas movie [19:15] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] beatzz: go study [19:15] tongued the pole; fire called; warm water freed him. [19:15] NO! I DONT WANA!!! [19:15] i hope pics were taken [19:15] How Can I generate PACKAGES.TXT? [19:15] tripFantastic, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0019.gif [19:15] ty [19:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:15] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:15] byteframe vim? [19:15] hu² [19:15] can't say i have [19:15] but i can imagine [19:16] byteframe: ls /var/log/packages 1> PACKAGES.TXT [19:16] that won't do it [19:16] pssh, w/e, try it. [19:16] seems like a little script he's cobbled together byte [19:16] Nick change: bleeding|edge -> fire|bird [19:16] it wont, but he might be on to something [19:18] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] byteframe: what exactly do u mean by PACKAGE.TXT? [19:19] cause i was thinkin just a txt file that shows what packages you have. [19:19] beatzz, the PACKAGES.TXT file present in each slackware mirror. [19:19] slapt-get can generate a PACKAGES.TXT and more from arbitrary directory filled with packages. [19:19] but im also drinkin bourbon on the rocks.. [19:19] kingbeowulf, good tip. [19:20] ok yea, you got me on that one. [19:20] no clue [19:21] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:21] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:23] I use slapt-get (a bit more versatile that slackpkg) to integrate official and my home made packages on the NFS drive [19:24] kingbeowulf, im using slapt-get myself too, but I can't seem to find out to have it generate a PACKAGES.TXT. [19:25] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/local-slackware-mirror/ [19:25] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:28] byteframe: check the FAQ online. They post a bash script [19:28] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [19:29] the FAQ for slapt-get that is [19:29] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.193.141) joined ##slackware. [19:30] what is the best OS? [19:30] kingbeowulf, yep, #17. thanks! [19:30] lego os. [19:30] dios_mio: one that works [19:30] ooo I played with logo mindstorms more than my boy [19:30] *lego [19:31] lots of C utilities for lInux [19:32] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.176.16) joined ##slackware. [19:34] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "might actualy study now" [19:35] ^ lies [19:36] i lovez ubuntu man [19:36] my msn avatar is "ubuntu" [19:36] ew [19:36] dont be prejudice man [19:36] lol [19:36] my god, dude, then why are you here? [19:36] because slackware was the first linux i ever used.. i has emotional attachment [19:36] kingbeowulf: because dios_mio is a sad troll who failed at getting Slackware to work properly. [19:37] BP{k}, bzzt wrong [19:37] and now hunts us [19:37] dios_mio: you suck at least start some drama [19:37] we have ways to hunt you down dios_mio :P) [19:37] entertain me [19:37] i installed slackware 3.3 in year 1997.. try again [19:38] dios_mio: good for you. Is that supposed to proof something? [19:38] BP{k}, i know how to use slackware [19:38] i could compile my kernel and everything back then... i just stopped using linux for years [19:39] dios_mio: again, good for you. Personally I don't care whatever you use. [19:39] I "could" just go 'buntu and hit the repositories, but I find it more entertaining to compile my multimedia editing chain from scratch via scripts. longer yes, but way moire fun and I get what I want [19:39] there are no distros but slackware! and Patrick is the prophet! allah slackbar! [19:39] deep fried slackbar? [19:39] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] take a bath Pig_pen [19:40] BP{k}, i know your type.. you just put people down because they dont know linux as good as you do.. but if anyone dedicated the same amount of time as you did on that subject they would be just as good [19:40] not necaarilyt [19:40] not necessarily [19:40] i personally spend my time reading books on sociology [19:40] dios_mio: You are as per usual quite mistaken. [19:40] 6.5 Billion people and 95% functionally illiterate [19:41] i spend my time reading books on porn [19:41] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:41] BP{k}, I probably know more about history pf philosophy than you do.. should i put you down? [19:41] Pig_pen: I gave up on books - way too many free vids online [19:41] I put people down because they make silly statements. [19:41] dios_mio: If I make silly statements about philosophy, then sure. [19:42] BP{k}, i tried helping people in here one or two times with the best of intentions... [19:42] Best of intentions doesn't mean you give the correct help. [19:42] BP{k}, but i cant be insulted and treated badly when you know my intentions were good [19:42] the road to hell is paved with good intentions, what is needed is correct answers and solutions [19:44] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.193.141) left irc: [19:44] heh. [19:45] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:46] man, you guys scared him off before I could think of a good zinger! [19:46] kingbeowulf: it does happen from time to time. ;) [19:46] I was on a anti-deity rant in #slamd64 [19:46] so I missed out [19:47] BP[k}: fun fun [19:47] im' an atheist too! [19:47] Pig_Pen: no you aren't! ;) [19:47] kingbeowulf: he comes back every now and then. And usually gets all fustrated because I disagree with him. [19:48] Did he sa he was "a theist" THE BASTARD! [19:49] BP[k}: go figure. my wife disagrees with me all the time, doesn't mean I just log off! [19:49] i just punch her [19:49] oh wait i dont have a wifre [19:49] wife* [19:50] my wife had a hysterectomy, i can make her pee by telling jokes and making her laugh, when i want revenge i just try to make her laugh in public like grocery stores and restaurants [19:51] o_O [19:51] now thats just sick [19:51] and cruel [19:51] it is. [19:51] I like it. :) [19:51] i dont do it often, just when she really deserves it [19:52] she has learned to not make me angry before we go somewhere, she saves it until we are home for the day now [19:52] sounds like a hystericalectomy [19:53] just remember that if you need revenge on a mean old woman, they have poor blatter control if they had a hysterectomy [19:53] Action: BP{k} makes notes [19:54] damn...my wife has the bladder control of an elephant. Swig down buckets of beer all night and still not need to go [19:55] oh wait - what a blatter ? [19:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:56] Pen_Pen: if she is such a mean old wench, why still married? [19:56] with a name like Pig_Pen I have to ask? ;-) [19:56] because i love her, because she is a mean old women is a big part of what i love about her [19:56] excellent [19:57] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-26-95.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[20:44] edman007 (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] Say, has anyone tried WebcamStudio in Slackware64 13? [20:46] kingbeowulf: Sorry, but the only thing I thought of when I read your work from home comment was the Beowulf animated movie and the naked king in it. :-S [20:47] o_o [20:50] heh heh. almost started out that way.... [20:51] nudity rocks [20:52] in some cases [20:52] in others you will freeze to death [20:52] sure...not on the frozen tundra but a tropical beach? [20:53] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:53] yeah i don't think i [20:53] i'll fault that [20:54] have to stay positive. its not nudity = FROZEN TUNDRA but always nudity = tropical beach. (along with lots of sun block as I am of N Eur descent an glow in the dark so pale) [20:55] lol [20:55] kingbeowulf: blone or red head ? [20:55] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:55] blond* [20:55] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Anyone recommend a <= $400 color laser printer? [21:00] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:01] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:04] deco: hairs gone white and balding but once was long blonde and flowing...drove my army sargeant dad nuts [21:05] kingbeowulf: lol awesome [21:05] yeah those where the days [21:07] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:07] of course these days are ok, except for hair loss creaky joints, and a midlife crisis I am too poor to do anything about [21:07] kingbeowulf: hmmm i'm going bold and i'm 21 [21:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) joined ##slackware. [21:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:10] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [21:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:10] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] deco: bummer dude [21:11] hats are your freinds [21:12] kingbeowulf: well it's frontal baldness ... [21:12] not that bad actually [21:12] i always had a big forehead anyway [21:12] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [21:12] heya MLanden, how are you? [21:12] heya,slackers...how's everyone? [21:12] mmmm....frontal lobe.... [21:13] heya,bleeding|edge.....gone gtk+18 and qt4-svn?...:D [21:13] yo MLanden [21:13] heya,mfillpot [21:13] MLanden: hahaha, no. I was messing with gentoo today on a spare hdd. I got it installed, it just kernel panics. [21:14] ahhhh....bleeding|edge with a touch of curiosity...gotcha...:P [21:14] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:14] haha [21:15] MLanden: yup, and curiosity killed the kernel. :P [21:15] lol [21:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:16] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [21:18] bleeding|edge: did you ever get a chance to mess with antico-deluxe? lightweight qt4 wm(kde free) [21:19] MLanden: no I haven't, it looks interesting though. [21:19] ok [21:21] while others show as 'xinitrc.wmaker WindowMaker' the latest added show as 'xinitrc.enlightenment17 xinitrc.enlightenment17' <-- how to fix the description? [21:22] xwmconfig [21:23] xwmconfig shows 'xinitrc.enlightenment17 xinitrc.enlightenment17' [21:23] xwmconfig is just a tool to manage them, if you want to do it by hand look in /etc/X11/xinit [21:24] did you read his question at all? :) [21:24] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:24] there is one symlink pointing to the default desktop's xinitrc. in the same dir [21:25] powtrix, ignore Pig_Pen. they are explicitely coded in xwmocnfig; you'd have to hack that and add xinitrc.enlightenment17 with your own description [21:25] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.17) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:26] powtrix: echo "\"xinitrc.blackbox\" \"The blackbox window manager\" \\" < edit it in /usr/bin/xwmconfig [21:26] maybe if he would post a comment with a better description of what he wants to do [21:26] s/blackbox/eli..../ [21:26] Pig_Pen, he explicitely said "how can I chang ethe description" [21:26] powtrix: or add similar entires [21:26] reading it [21:27] powtrix, it's just a script, make a backup, and start hacking away :> [21:27] heh >> /tmpscript.sh :P [21:28] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:29] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-120-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [21:29] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] http://paste2.org/p/556528 [21:37] added 172-175, 187 [21:37] powtrix: looks likr [21:37] err [21:38] looks good :> [21:38] looks like you just need to name the script xinitrc.e [21:38] there is an enlightenment entry [21:38] i added it [21:38] echo "\"xinitrc.e\" \"Enlightenment\" \\" >> $TMP/tmpscript.sh [21:38] that is for e16 [21:38] ah [21:38] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [21:38] well it i did not add [21:39] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:40] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:40] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [21:42] the second 'xinitrc.gnome' continues in the script ... [21:42] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:42] show be removed, isn't? [21:42] shold [21:43] should* [21:43] some slackware users still use gnome :> [21:43] well blackbox is only in /extra [21:43] and it's in there [21:43] what was the latest slackware with gnome? [21:45] there are gnome projects for slackware [21:45] so, this new DR17 could be added on xwmconfig list :) [21:45] 10.1 i think [21:45] what about pekwm? openbox? awesome? [21:46] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:49] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:51] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [21:58] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [21:59] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [21:59] urthwrm (n=hooch@203-214-132-67.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:00] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30A76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:00] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:02] fonseg (n=bnguyen@58.187.161.103) joined ##slackware. [22:03] how to read .prc files on slackware? [22:04] fonseg: fbreader or calibre are two programs that can handle prc files [22:06] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] I'm on 12.2, and every time I get a message on Facebook, the "pop" sound causes a new instance of gxine to come up. [22:07] Is there a way I can easily disable this? [22:08] brb [22:08] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [22:08] Mefached: don't use facebook? [22:08] Action: Dominian ducks [22:08] Mefached: FYI, I despise facebook ;) [22:09] lol, I'm in high school, like I have a choice [22:09] Dominian: good for you - I'm not a fan of it either :) [22:09] It's the only surefire place I can go to piss off everyone in my school while I'm not there [22:09] honestly, I always remove the gxine package - it's junk [22:10] alisonken1home: :) [22:10] Mefached: You do have a choice [22:10] Mefached: set up your own Blog.. tell you friends to sign up [22:10] :P [22:10] Dominian: What you fail to understand is that I'm not on Facebook for my friends [22:10] I'm on Facebook purely for the intention of making people I don't like angry [22:11] haha [22:11] thrice`: Package removed. That seemed to fix it quite nicely. [22:11] Mefached: touche [22:11] All of my friends use AIM or IRC [22:12] ew... ew.. AIM!? [22:12] What else? MSN? Lol. [22:12] tell them to use XMPP [22:12] aka jabber [22:12] Right, because I'm just going to convince every one of them to switch protocols instead of just using AIM. [22:12] don't have all the 'kiddies' on there [22:12] Mefached: of course [22:12] Mefached: You blow their minds with the knowledge you have of AOL IM and how much better XMPP is [22:12] :) [22:13] Still doesn't help, since then they'd have to convince -their- friends to switch [22:13] Or they'd stay, since it's a waste of time for them to use two protocols [22:13] heh [22:13] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.49.51) left irc: "leaving" [22:13] Mefached: thats why you use an IM client that does multiple protocols [22:13] Anyway, my AIM list is filled with connections I've had since I was nine [22:14] Dominian: yeah, xmpp, which server? [22:15] nyRednek: I actually use my own domain via google apps for that [22:15] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:15] Dominian: hmmm...i'm using the google server for xmpp [22:15] Besides, I'm gonna go with Wave instead once it's all good and done and there's a decent client out [22:15] fonseg (n=bnguyen@58.187.161.103) left irc: "leaving" [22:15] The web client slows my browser to a crawl [22:16] paradroid_ (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] the luddites were right, technology will corrupt & destroy civilization! burn your computers and head for the hills before its too late! [22:18] Pig_Pen: i keep my most important documents on paper [22:18] nyRednek: lol paper [22:19] i can't stand painting on a computer [22:19] Mefached: well, i'm not allowed to use electricity one day a week anyways [22:19] with a tablet [22:19] the titles to my vehicles are on paper, the deed and abstract to my home is on paper [22:19] and can't get my head around making electronic music [22:19] nyRednek: What? [22:19] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Mefached: as i said, i'm not really allowed to make productive use of electricity one day a week [22:20] Mefached: i can leave the fridge and the furnace going [22:20] ... Why? [22:20] Oh, I see. [22:20] Mefached: shabbat [22:20] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-205-27.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:20] I figured that out right before you said it. [22:21] Action: wollw wonders if observing shabbat like that is like being "Windows proof" [22:21] no driving, no writing, no smoking, no computers [22:21] tozefs (n=_tozefs_@216.15.73.23) joined ##slackware. [22:21] no carrying [22:21] no cooking [22:21] that a jewish thing? (shabbat) [22:21] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Pig_Pen: yeah [22:22] Pig_Pen: a 3000 year old tradition [22:22] Sounds super fun. [22:22] evolution, a 10 million year old tradition :) [22:22] I enjoy my electricity every day. [22:22] Pig_Pen: so it is said [22:22] even older [22:23] i did not know you were jewish nyRednek [22:23] I like to think of evolution as things continually falling apart in ever differing ways. [22:24] Mefached: fun isn't really the reason behind observing the tradition... [22:24] survival of the fittest in action is what evolution is [22:24] nyRednek: I find tradition ridiculous, as I only do things by voluntary action, not duty or any "moral" obligation. If it's not enjoyable, I just don't do it. [22:24] the fittest always dies anyway though :P [22:25] Mefached: kinda like the greek and roman cultures...which are effectively extinct [22:25] Mefached: sounds like hedonism [22:25] but they live long enough to breed and make babies passing on their genes to the next generation and that is enough [22:25] Greek and Roman cultures survived for quite a while, and the extinctness of those cultures is in no way an argument against their effectiveness. And yes, it is hedonism; it's the same reason I use Linux. I do what I want, when I want to. [22:25] multiply that by a few million years and... [22:26] Pig_Pen: and you have a hell of a lot of skeltons [22:26] When America passes away, does that retroactively make it an argument against its culture? No. [22:26] Mefached: actually, the fact that their cultures are dead while mine still lives is an indication of something rather deep [22:27] probably more skeletons than you have living members of the given race [22:27] nyRednek: Your culture got lucky? I don't view that as particularly deep. [22:27] not dead really [22:27] their language evolved [22:27] Anyway, I'd rather not have this degrade into a religious or violent cultural debate. [22:27] spanish italian french [22:27] etc... [22:27] Therefore, I'm going to take my leave. Good night, everyone. [22:27] Mefached: luck has nothing to do with it... [22:27] if the usa died as a nation the people will still live, just because the federal government ceases to exist does not mean everyone has to die too [22:28] Pig_Pen: ++ [22:28] Pig_Pen: Note: that applies to the Greeks and the Romans as well, does it not? [22:28] Meckafett: then don't bring it up. [22:28] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Mefached: [22:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Meckafett? People should be more careful with their autocomplete. :P [22:28] Anyway, good night everyone. [22:28] Mefached: their civilization ceased...and was absorbed into a different one...hebrew culture, however has been conquered by all, destroyed by none [22:28] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:29] the us federal government has becomes a huge beauracratic mess that is corrupt beyond repair so it would not hurt my feelings if the government collapsed, maybe it would make this nation better if it did [22:29] nyRednek: conquered by those who conquer maybe, but not everyone /does/ that [22:30] wollw: point taken [22:31] my people's cultural and religious traditions have kept us who we are long after our kings lost their last battle [22:31] it kept us from becoming generic greeks about 2300 years ago, or generic romans a couple of centuries later [22:31] I believe that this discussion should be moved to ##slackofftopic [22:32] alisonken1home: correction, ##slackware-offtopic [22:32] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] whichever [22:34] alisonken1home: not really...TR likes to flamebait and ban [22:35] point is topic and this current discussion [22:35] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] alisonken1home: fwiw, from the rules: With that said, we do not mind off-topic (OT) discussions or questions, but we must ask that you refrain from such discussions if some one wishes to discuss something that *is* on-topic. [22:35] and the topic has shifted signifigantly to which offtopic should be used [22:36] granted you count [22:36] do you want an on-topic discussion? [22:37] which version of kde is pre pack with slack 13? [22:37] kde 4.2 [22:37] and 4.3 is in -current [22:37] That was a quick discussion. [22:37] 4.2.4 to be precise [22:38] thanks...which repository should i go if i want the 4.3.4 version? [22:38] slackbuild doesnt have it [22:38] any repository that has -current in it - IF you want to review the changes between 13.0 and -current and see if any would break your current setup [22:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] is there a guide for upgrading to current somewhere? [22:39] slackbuilds don't carry packages that are part of slackware [22:39] k [22:39] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:39] wollw, sure, man slackpkg [22:39] thanks [22:39] thrice`: you beat me to it [22:39] README and UPGRADEHINTS files are usually pretty good starting points [22:39] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:39] neither of those files exist [22:40] bleeding1edge (n=fire|bir@173.17.139.25) joined ##slackware. [22:40] then what are the file names? [22:41] there is an "UPGRADE.txt" and "CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt" ? [22:41] yes - those are the ones [22:41] don't forget CURRENT.WARNING and ChangeLog.txt [22:41] bleeding2edge (n=fire|bir@173-17-139-25.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:42] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:43] Nick change: bleeding1edge -> fire|bird [22:43] bleeding2edge (n=fire|bir@173-17-139-25.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] what command should I use to sign packages? I tried gpg --clearsign, but due to the length of the resulting .asc files I believe that is not the correct command. [22:44] fire|bird: your nick was stuck in irc's buffer? [22:44] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:44] MLanden: yeah :P [22:45] ahhh [22:45] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:45] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:46] for kde we use en_GB? version? [22:47] language?? for english? [22:47] there is no just en? [22:47] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] en_US and en_GB exist [22:48] there may be others [22:49] hmm.... [22:49] i dont see it [22:49] check slackpkg install kde [22:49] doesnt exist [22:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:54] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Is there a way, probably via /proc or /sys, to find out how many bytes have gone over a certain network device? [22:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:58] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [22:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-110-79.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [22:58] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:59] anyone from sweden or norway? [23:00] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:01] jeev: i'm a viking [23:01] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [23:01] yea right [23:02] deco: as in sleep?....ralph wiggums meme..:P [23:03] lol :P [23:05] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] tozefs (n=_tozefs_@216.15.73.23) left ##slackware ("leave"). [23:08] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:11] wollw (n=dshere@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-141-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] hi there, anybody knows how kernel-headers package is built? as I cannot find kernel-headers.SlackBuild in the source. [23:23] night,folks...talk with all later..:D [23:23] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [23:24] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [23:25] cherife: it's built manually - /usr/src/linux-/include/{asm,asm-generic,drm,linux,mtd,rdma,sound,video,xen} to $PKG/usr/include [23:26] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:26] cherife: but you don't need (or WANT) to upgrade those unless you plan to rebuild libc [23:31] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Zordrak: http://bit.ly/8luOZ7 [23:32] rworkman: thanks, i see. i'm asking this as i'm using a customized kernel with the most current stable version, i'm thinking the kernel-headers version should be comport with the running kernel [23:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:33] No, they should not. [23:33] The system headers should be the ones that glibc was compiled against. Always. [23:33] paradroid_ (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:34] rworkman: oh, yeah, i really got it this time :) [23:34] If you put newer headers on the system, and then build something that uses the function definitions from them, you can (and eventually will) run across difficult/impossible to troubleshoot issues e.g. the number of arguments passed to a function has changed, but libc is still passing the old number of options. Then $app segfaults with a null pointer, and nobody knows why. :) [23:39] rworkman: oh, you remind me of the segfault issue on one of my server, i now find the reason, i replaced the system kernel headers with the new version, ahhh [23:39] Haha, yay :) [23:39] Well, that may not be the reason, but it certainly could be. [23:40] You'll need to recompile anything you've built since those were replaced. [23:40] (after you put the stock ones back) [23:41] rworkman: yeah, yeah, this must be the reason. thanks rworkman ;-) [23:41] You're welcome; good luck :) [23:43] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] habaneros (n=habanero@123.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:44] http://www.hulu.com/watch/114090/vanguard-cocaine-mafia [23:45] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:52] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:52] damn site and there stream to USA only crap. :( [23:52] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30974.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] lol [23:54] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] --- Fri Dec 11 2009