[00:01] that's not good [00:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:02] sanguenet (player@189.26.138.78.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [00:03] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:05] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [00:06] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:07] blaines (~blaines@75-171-89-104.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:07] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:08] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [00:09] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:10] It's also not proper syntax. There is no protocol called "L". 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[00:51] Jenny (~Jen@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:52] telemarketer (~westburia@99.54.173.243) joined ##slackware. [00:54] tessai (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Nick change: tessai -> Necos [00:56] telemarketer (~westburia@99.54.173.243) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:58] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:58] Knoxville (~Knox@c-75-73-224-97.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] hey how can I view what packages are installed? [00:58] ls /var/log/packages [00:59] or use pkgtool and select "Remove Package" for a list [00:59] a long list [00:59] yep [00:59] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) joined ##slackware. [01:00] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-173-243.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] hey how can I view what packages are installed? [01:00] see above [01:00] knoxville, is there a particular package you're looking for? [01:00] I hist /"list and it went past my buffer [01:00] Knoxville: scroll up and see my reply to your earlier question [01:00] look above, knoxville [01:00] I just want to trim the fat on this server shonudo [01:00] you have options [01:00] sbs (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:00] ls /var/log/packages | less [01:01] or: pkgtool > remove package [01:01] you'll get a listing [01:01] cool thanks [01:01] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:01] thank alisonken1home [01:01] np [01:04] sbs (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [01:04] Knoxville, btw, when you "trim the fat," are you clear about what you want to get rid of; is this mostly unused apps? [01:04] hba (~hba@189.188.110.211) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:05] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:05] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:05] Out of curiosity, do you guys still use the "traditional" UNIX scripting tools (shell, sed, awk, grep, etc.) or have consolidated them into some sort of language like Tcl, Perl, Ruby, Python, Scheme, etc.? [03:06] personally, I still use a lot of the more traditional line-based tools [03:06] you can see sed used in slackbuilds, too [03:07] not to mention that the slackbuilds scripts are written in bash :) [03:07] s/ba// [03:07] right :) [03:07] I was rather surprised that /bin/sh is bash by default [03:07] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:08] Excepit it's not ;-) [03:09] I must have dont something wrong then :| [03:09] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [03:09] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [03:09] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [03:10] rirombo@meimei ~/Code/Tcl $ /bin/sh --version [03:10] GNU bash, version 4.1.7(2)-release (i486-slackware-linux-gnu) [03:11] If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while conforming to the POSIX standard as well. [03:11] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Oh, nice! Didn't know that [03:11] That's good to know, thanks for the tip :) [03:11] sorry, took me a while to find the relevant section of the manpage at this hour of the morning :) [03:12] Heh, no problem [03:12] rirombo: however to answer your earlier question, I fairly much still use the traditional tools. [03:12] how do I choose another WM in slackware? I want to test other's than KDE [03:13] samfisher: xwmconfig(1) [03:13] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.2"). [03:13] Thank you, BP{k} [03:14] Thanks for the responses, BP{k} and trhodes [03:14] you're welcome [03:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:15] i dont trust trhodes [03:15] i think he's an undercover ubunti user [03:16] he only comes here to learn how to really use linux [03:16] shh, jeev, not in here [03:16] Hehe [03:18] good night ! [03:18] later, jeev [03:24] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:24] I was wondering, any guide or info on how to make a .txz slackware package from the sources? [03:24] w/o making a slackbuild [03:25] samfisher: http://www.slackwiki.org/Building_A_Package [03:25] having fun trying to figure out what modules to include in an initrd for a dell studio 1558 [03:26] dies at "unable to mount root partition on unknown device <8,5> [03:26] -m sg:ext3:ext4 so far [03:26] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:27] doesn't recognize sda5? hmm [03:27] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-249.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:27] it shows the partition list, but doesn't recognize the fs - logical partition 5 ext4 format [03:29] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:30] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [03:32] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [03:37] alisonken1home: are you getting dumped into the rescue shell? [03:37] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:42] rworkman: no - kernel panic. but I just noticed the udev option [03:43] which doesn't seem to help [03:45] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:47] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [03:48] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:50] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:52] alisonken1home: something doesn't make sense -- the initrd should be dumping you to a rescue shell if it can't mount the rootfs [03:52] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:52] See line 282 and on of /boot/initrd-tree/init [03:55] Richlv (~rich@80.232.234.137) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:55] rworkman: you would think so :) [03:55] sbs` (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:56] anyone knows how can i see what other DNSes an IP has? [03:56] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Hf1Waq49.html <-- mkinitrd.conf on laptop [03:57] ok - just found something to check (rootdev) [03:57] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Quit: Usar Linux amacia o cabelo [03:57] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Yeah, looks like ROOTDEV is wrong. [03:57] Well, it's definitely wrong :) [03:58] however - I did the cli mkinitrd (before I found mkinitrd.conf - something new every time :) ) [03:58] and it was correct [03:58] let me try again [03:58] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:58] Nothing like "mkinitrd -c -F" -- I like my config file :) [03:58] gotta love new stuff :) [03:58] CLEAR_TREE="1" [03:59] Yes, but sometimes I don't want that. [03:59] same thing as -c isn't it? [03:59] You can support multiple kernels in one initrd, so often I don't want to clear it. [03:59] (i.e. no need to change the output image name) [03:59] there is that [04:00] sda driver: sd [04:00] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [04:00] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.5 -F ; mkinitrd -k 2.6.34.1 -F <-- initrd.gz has both 2.6.33.5 and 2.6.34.1 modules in it [04:00] partitions sda1-6 seen by sg [04:00] "No filesystem could mount root, troed: romfs [04:00] Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,5)" [04:01] good morning folks [04:02] morning, mancha [04:02] alisonken1home: try /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh -c [04:02] good morning mancha [04:02] and change the UDEV value to 1 in the result. Need to fix that :/ [04:03] heh [04:07] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:07] nope - same thing [04:09] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [04:10] bah, that makes no sense :/ [04:10] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:12] I just noticed I didn't see "Loading initrd" on boot [04:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:15] rworkman: it helps to have "initrd = ..." in /etc/lilo.conf :) [04:16] duh [04:16] Is there a program like xfontsel that will allow me to browse TrueType fonts? [04:16] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [04:16] alisonken1home: hey, I did that once. :P [04:17] That is, I'd like it to show the Xft names instead of the X ones? [04:17] alisonken1home: oh, that makes *perfect* sense. Disappointed that I didn't think of that. [04:17] hmm - lilo no longer shows "Loading initrd" either. but it does show more dots on loading the label [04:18] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-249.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:18] yep - that's what it was [04:18] You will probably get good mileage from adding "compact" to lilo.conf [04:19] chopp: sucks when you've been doing slackware as long as I have - and using initrd's as well - and pulling that :) [04:19] rworkman: now that it works - yep [04:20] hey, we're all human, but I'd feel the same way. [04:20] Hell, I still botch an initrd every now and then [04:20] and I can't claim sleep deprevation since I slept from noon to 8pm yesterday too [04:21] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:22] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.250) joined ##slackware. [04:24] maybe next time. I just installed 13.1/lvm/luks on my laptop, and caused myself almost the same grief except I was kicked to the maintenance console. I thought my drive was fried. May if I'd have left the freakin -smp off the initrd. :P [04:28] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [04:29] what sucks is because of flash, I have to install slack32 on a 64-bit system - the new laptop and getting ready to install it on the home machine as well [04:30] D1ver (~neil@ppp121-44-73-125.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:31] damn [04:32] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:33] I use flash64 [04:33] doesn't crash more [04:33] actually - it's not flash, it's skype [04:34] the wife needs skype to talk with her sister overseas [04:35] but also huludesktop - it has 64-bit issues IIRC [04:35] and now that adobe has suspended 64-bit flash, there goes that idea [04:37] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-159-174.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[04:45] alisonken1home: ah, right, I heard huludesktop on 64bit was a no go [04:47] Is there a tool to translate \n into \0? [04:47] tr [04:47] Durr. [04:47] Thanks :) [04:47] although it's not easy with most line-based tools [04:48] what are you trying to do ? [04:48] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells"). [04:50] trhodes: copy the last three files (containing spaces in names) in a directory [04:51] It would probably be faster to do it by hand, but I figured I need to exercise my shell scripting muscles :D [04:51] last three lexically sorted ? gnu find has a null-separated output option for that, and also quoting might be all you need to deal with spaces [04:52] sure, it's good to stay fresh / learn new stuff [04:52] I've heard people say that quoting doesn't work all the time. And xargs/find manpages mention using \0 delimited lists to be safe, so I figured that's the way to go. [04:52] And yes, lexically sorted [04:54] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:55] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [04:57] find | tail -n 3 | while read i ; do cp "$i" "/tmp/$i" ; done [04:58] probably not the best method :) [04:58] quote doesn't work with filename containing * or ? and perhaps others, " find -print0| xargs -0 " handle them correctly [04:59] rapid: I'm finding that this might work too: [04:59] ls -1 | tail -n3 | tr '\n' '\0' | xargs -0 -n1 -I% cp % /tmp/ [05:01] The question is, is it better to use "find -print0" or "ls -1 | ... | tr '\n' '\0'" [05:01] Probably find, at least for clarity [05:01] rirombo, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs [05:01] be aware that find may give you unexpected results [05:01] Although, tail won't work with find -print0 [05:01] since it'll print hidden stuff [05:02] Aaah, very good point, rapid. Thansk :) [05:03] Thanks, even [05:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:03] y0 fredoslack [05:03] hi alicephilippa [05:03] alisonken1home * [05:03] trhodes: *nods* Thanks, will keep that in mind as well [05:03] heh [05:03] fredoslack: how's things going? [05:04] bien merci [05:05] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-77-134.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [05:09] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [05:15] pete2 (1000@035.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:16] pete2 (1000@035.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [05:17] nvision (~nvision@g224249051.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:19] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:20] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. 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[05:55] alienBOB: looks like there's a soft plan to be udev+udisks/etc ready for 4.6 [05:55] (Janaury-ish) [05:55] Action: troy knows a few people were asking this question a few days ago [05:56] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:58] rirombo (~rirombo@h43.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:59] troy: yay! Thanks :) [05:59] \o/ [05:59] troy: http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/halectomy/ [05:59] troy: ^ in case you want to start playing with it [05:59] That should get everything you need in place [06:00] hahaha, everything's ready it seems ;-) [06:00] Well, here's hoping. [06:01] rworkman: I have no plans to play with it myself :) [06:01] rworkman: I'll let more interested people play - personally, HAL just works for most things I do and don't understand what the big deal is [06:01] rworkman: however, I understand there are a lot of halophobes on there :P [06:01] halitosis [06:02] troy: well, I was/am happy with hal too. However, RH is not. [06:02] The Rewriter In Chief (aka David Zeuthen) had his way with it. [06:04] haliburton [06:04] yeah, hal works for me too, it's a useless layer but it works [06:04] *halliburton [06:08] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:08] Srbo_ (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:16] there was an awesome shirt spotted at Akademy this year [06:16] it read: KDE abstracted my abstraction layer :~( [06:16] the debian packager :) [06:17] we laughed for a bit, then realised that it allowed us to drop hal by only changing a small bit of code :) [06:18] hahaha :P [06:18] if nothing else, it was an awesome shirt :) [06:19] hal seemed ok to me until I started playing a bit with dbus and noticed hal was basically dbus messages [06:19] heh ;-) [06:19] botnet (~botnet@174-21-29-160.tukw.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:20] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:21] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:0:5efe:dac1:b59b) joined ##slackware. [06:25] nvision (~nvision@g224249051.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:27] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-187-50-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:28] adrien: within KDE, we have to be aware of the fact that we support multiple platforms as well - so udev and co need to exist on freebsd, opensolaris, OS X, etc... [06:31] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:32] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7CAC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:33] troy: of course, what I mean is that there had to be something the took kernel events/messages and sent hal messages on all supported platforms anyway, in the end it looks like (kernel/udev -> cross-platform message) -> send through hal and dbus -> read hal messages inside kde -> rest of kde: there was already something doing the "translation" from system-specifc elements to something more portable, so no need to go through hal messages afaiu [06:36] can anybody tell me why slackware now also includes the (to me) utterly useless hundreds of spawns of console-kit-daemon ? what is it FOR ? [06:36] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [06:36] uselessly running processes affront me [06:38] how do you recover files on a usb stick, FAT filesystem in slack? [06:38] samfisher: FAT is tricky, it can be done (-ish), because FAT only replaces the first character of the filename with a DELETE character. you'd need an undelete program for it [06:39] and guess that first character :) [06:43] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [06:43] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:47] why do they leave prematurely? only darwin knows. [06:49] illovae (~C-18@edu.porneia.net) joined ##slackware. [06:49] troy (~troy@82.203.205.227) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:50] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [06:51] slackpkg remove ConsoleKit && killall console-kit-daemon :) [06:52] i suppose that magic works wonders on 13.1 but ... it cant resurrect darwin, adaptr ;) [06:52] not yet! [06:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:52] we harv the technologies! [06:52] and then theres that. [06:53] im sure nuurth kuurea hath the foo thou need, adaptr ;) [06:53] troy (~troy@82.203.205.227) joined ##slackware. [06:54] yes! stemcells baby [06:55] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [06:55] given the cells i stem each day, i should be national champion. ahe, [06:55] Action: jg71 goes back to what he was cursing about.... [06:55] Action: troy goes to find food - love you all! :P [06:56] troy (troy@82.203.205.227) left ##slackware. [07:00] telemarketer (~westburia@adsl-99-54-173-243.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:01] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:04] emma_ (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:05] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [07:08] whats the best windows ssh client now? [07:09] ¿ [07:09] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [07:10] i've been using ssh secure shell, but thats no longer being maintained and its terminal emulation is kinda buggy [07:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Skywise: putty. always has been, always will be. [07:13] ssh on cygwin? [07:13] i was hoping for another answer [07:14] but i knew it was putty [07:14] you have problems with putty ? [07:15] no, it just seems basic [07:15] so.. you actually have no clue ? [07:15] have you ever USED it ? [07:15] ouyuv (~hpo3@218.193.181.155) joined ##slackware. [07:16] not in a while [07:18] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:0:5efe:dac1:b59b) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:18] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:19] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:19] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] it has more options than any other client I know, and if you use it with quickputty you get fast access to every saved session [07:21] i'm looking at it again, i figured it would be out of beta by now [07:21] um [07:21] it has been production-quality for a long time [07:22] theres something newer then 0.60 beta? [07:25] there's a fork of putty too, has some more options [07:26] (can't remember the name of course) [07:28] Skywise: putty has been in production for over a decade. why are you hung up on versions [07:29] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-43-243.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] ok i like it [07:30] htop looks pretty spiffy in it [07:31] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:32] be sure to change the defaults to UTF-8 and such, and choose a sane color scheme. [07:34] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Skywise: putty has been mature and stable and feature-rich for a _long_ time. [07:36] Stop whining about it [07:37] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [07:37] who's whining about it [07:37] i said i liked it [07:37] Then install it! [07:37] Good [07:37] There is no better client than putty for Windows [07:38] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:38] btw, worth mentionning: anyterm, it's a ssh in a browser (use https ;-) ), not perfect but works quite well [07:38] and, only remotely related: http://kanaka.github.com/noVNC/ , it's a vnc client in a browser (html5) [07:39] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.211) joined ##slackware. [07:45] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:02] archceza1 (1000@agd73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:02] jonsmith1982 (~jon@78.145.121.153) joined ##slackware. [08:05] archcezar (1000@afe106.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:07] _matze_ (~Matze@89.204.153.182) joined ##slackware. [08:09] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [08:09] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:11] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [08:11] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:12] Hello. I have some some files that I want to rename massively as their modification date. How could I do that? [08:13] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [08:14] I think you could use find to do that. [08:14] samfisher: man find [08:14] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:15] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:16] adaptr| actually I found that mod date isn't what I want. Instead, each file has the first lina as: Conversation with condac_alex at Thu 08 Jul 2010 05:53:48 PM EEST and the filename should be 2010-07-08.175348+0300EEST.txt [08:17] that's a mega super duper challenge [08:17] not at all. grep, dat, and find with some bash scripting will solve that [08:17] *date [08:18] hmm... no awk or sed? those are pita [08:18] in that case, yes, you must use awk and sed [08:19] _matze_ (~Matze@89.204.153.182) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [08:19] daaamn [08:22] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:22] brz (~BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:22] brz (~BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:23] brz (~BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:25] brz (~BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:27] how woul be kind enough to help? but not for free, of course :) [08:30] can you give a little more information? a few examples, exactly how they should be named, etc ? [08:31] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] i would do it in 2 passes [08:31] I'd use a bash array, I think. [08:31] generate a list with the original file name and new filename [08:32] and then when the list is correct, use it to do the renaming [08:32] if the elements are always the same [08:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:32] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [08:32] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:34] timahvo11 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[08:39] You mean that wpa_supplicant is preventing successful boot, or you just get ugly errors? [08:40] nope, we all use old releases [08:40] crazycaw: see /topic [08:40] rob0> preventing boot [08:40] sett, that should be quite impossible [08:40] then boot in single user mode [08:40] crazycaw: patrick volkerding is a fraud. slackware is really just gentoo. [08:41] aha now i know how it's called :) [08:41] lol [08:41] thrice`, so, the files should be renamed as YYYY-MM-DD.120045.txt (taken from the first line of each file: onversation with at Sat 10 Jul 2010 12:00:45 AM EEST) [08:42] hum [08:42] samfisher: use find to extract the filenames, then use grep to get that date string. use date to format it the way you want to. rename. [08:43] a one liner would be quite fun :> [08:43] ls | while read -a LINE ; do YEAR=${LINE[7]} ; ... (populate other variables) ... echo mv \"$LINE\" $YEAR-$MONTH-$DAY.$HOUR$MIN$SEC+0300EEST.txt ; done [08:43] rob0: that's nasty [08:44] you echo/append that output to a file and source that file [08:44] nooo, for loop [08:44] um a mistake in it [08:44] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:44] ls | while read -a LINE ; do YEAR=${LINE[7]} ; ... (populate other variables) ... echo mv \"${LINE[@]}\" $YEAR-$MONTH-$DAY.$HOUR$MIN$SEC+0300EEST.txt ; done [08:44] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:45] oh taken FROM THE FILE? That calls for perl/awk/something better than bash [08:45] from the file's content [08:46] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-159-174.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:46] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [08:46] rob0| take from the file [08:47] I thought they were named "Conversation with at Dayname Day Mon Year ..." [08:47] tough to isolate the time though [08:47] from each files' first line [08:47] still doable in bash I suppose, but uglier and harder [08:47] samfisher, by chances, are everything leading up to the time the same (spaces / text) ? [08:48] thrice`, i don't understand the question [08:48] are the number of words leading up to the time you want {12:00:00} the same ? [08:48] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:48] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.45.65) joined ##slackware. [08:49] you're asking if the first' line stucture doesn't change, yes [08:49] so the same number of word until the time arrives, yes [08:49] ok [08:49] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] for FILE in * ; do DATE_ARRAY=$( head -l $FILE ); ... [08:50] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [08:50] um s/l/1/ [08:50] what a weird typo [08:50] theyre logs that were lost and recovered from a FAT medium. now, the names are all altered, a "x" replaced first letter and ~ after the 8 one (MS sucks) [08:51] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:51] for FILE in * ; do DATE_ARRAY=( $( head -1 $FILE ) ); ... [08:52] for file in *.txt; do mv $file "$(date +"%Y-%m-%d").$(cat $file | head -n1 | awk '{print $9}' | sed -e 's#:##g').txt"; done [08:52] something like this :> [08:53] backup and try it first, but I think that will do it [08:54] dude [08:55] how long do you use linux for? [08:55] irrelevant :> [08:55] i really should sell my house, make a list of you guys and hire as teachers [08:56] thank you thrice` [08:56] now [08:56] do you accept bitcoins for that? [08:56] sounds kinky, so no :> [08:58] :)) [08:58] then, what would you like? [08:58] vdv (~vdv@ip-109-43-21-11.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [09:00] nothing :> I"m bad at those things too, so I like to try myself to learn [09:00] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:03] the command works great, i actually found out that there are recovered files that do *NOT* contain log lines (maybe they were permanently overwritten) so the filename will be different [09:04] :( [09:04] it depends on the first line being the what you had, and that the 9th word is the time [09:08] vdv (~vdv@ip-109-43-21-11.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:08] imprazaguy (~imprazagu@220-136-107-174.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:10] imprazaguy (imprazagu@220-136-107-174.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [09:11] imprazaguy (~imprazagu@220-136-107-174.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) joined ##slackware. [09:13] imprazaguy (imprazagu@220-136-107-174.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. 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[11:08] ok - got video cam and lid digital mic's working in skype on the dell studio 1558 [11:08] now to see if I can send OOo presentation display via network to the laptop from the desktop [11:08] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:09] OR - the other option is using kde's rdc and run presentation on the laptop [11:09] hmmm .... [11:09] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] the only problem might be embedded videos - which requires audio plugged into a sound board at the church [11:10] is there a utility to have a remote system act as a second monitor to a local machine? [11:11] example: laptop plugged into a projector, with the computer at the sound board displaying OOo presentation with multimedia onto the laptop display? [11:11] the only way I can think of is "ooo -display :0 [11:11] " [11:11] alisonken1home: vnc? [11:12] Might be a little overkill, but :) [11:12] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) joined ##slackware. [11:14] but will it allow the multimedia (video clip) to show up on the remote? and how well does it work with OOo presentation and multimedia? [11:14] timahvo11 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:16] hmmm ... interesting quesitons [11:18] alisonken1home: It'll work for presentation. Not sure about video clip. Never tried to watch videos over vnc %) That's possible, but not sure it'll be a pleasant experience. [11:19] vnc is pretty slow unfortunately [11:19] alisonken1home: teamviewer seems a bit faster [11:19] you have ssh and everything on the other machine? [11:19] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.6.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:19] you can maybe ssh to it and run something like 'DISPLAY=:0 mplayer stromping.avi' [11:20] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [11:20] ssh with keys for passwordless login - that might work [11:21] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:21] ok - time to test OOo presentation output to remote display [11:21] TClayton: haven't heard of teamplayer before - in sbo? [11:22] alisonken1home: its java based cross platform. extract it run it [11:22] whoa - lots of updates in sbo [11:24] I've had mixed results with java based apps running on an older system [11:24] especially a laptop with limited ram [11:24] ssh maybe best tehn [11:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] update to OOo is gonna take a while with this home dsl [11:25] compmstr (~compmstr@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] nah, only 3 or 4 hours =) [11:25] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:25] actually about an hour-1/2 on this [11:26] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [11:27] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [11:29] upgrading libpng's api basically means recompile the whole damn userland! :) [11:31] "my desktop is on the fritz again" "what are you going to do?" "reboot the universe" [11:31] well, with OOo it looks like I'll have to use krdc since OOo doesn't appear to support remote displays [11:32] unless there's an app that will create a virtual fb device that's a remote display [11:32] I'll check again after OOo updates to 3.2.1 [11:34] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.130.239) joined ##slackware. [11:39] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. 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[11:49] i don't know how to overwrite the files that are identical in size w/o renaming and to rename thos that are not [11:49] they are all dupes [11:50] just some are identical, some are not. [11:51] there's no single magical command like "do-samfishers-wish" but you can script a combo of if, diff, cp, mv into a bash script [11:51] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-246-200-118.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:51] did you check sourceforge and make sure? [11:52] i find stuff there all the time i can't believe went thru the trouble to make a project for [11:52] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] samfisher also there might be a clever combo of flags to rsync that'll do something close to what you want [11:53] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] evilaz (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:06] john_dee: i tested it at work a few weks ago both win/lin [12:07] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.6.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:07] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] compmstr (~compmstr@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] oh and its available for mac and iphone [12:08] the linux version is still in beta but did work for me [12:09] It works, but it's a windows version+wine [12:09] It was, at least [12:10] i never used wine nor have it installed on any of my slack boxes [12:12] TClayton: I tried it for a bit out of curiousity. wine runs well enough. I've since removed wine. [12:13] what would be really cool would be a streamer setup so I could output a presentation to a stream server, then just have the remote displays show the stream [12:14] lookin (~lookin@wjohnd-1-pt.tunnel.tserv14.sea1.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:15] john_dee: the file says includes components of Free and Open Source Software, namely from [12:15] the Wine Project and xdg-utils [12:15] so yeah i guess it uses wine [12:17] jonsmith1982 (~jon@78.145.121.153) joined ##slackware. [12:18] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:20] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:21] jake_ (~jake@95.144.106.112) joined ##slackware. [12:23] it also looks like it requires internet access to get "invites" unless that's only for the web browser interface [12:27] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:29] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) joined ##slackware. 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[13:50] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:52] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [13:53] is there a way to give your modem a phone number with agetty? [13:53] dialout? [13:54] dialin for internet connection sharing [13:54] with a 56k modem only box [13:54] if it's a dialin - then the number comes from your telephone [13:54] you just have to tell the modem to pick up [13:55] then setup the ppp for network sharing [13:55] it is a local setup [13:55] device to device [13:55] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:55] i have no home phone except a magic jack [13:56] i just want to tell this rather primative device to dial into my computer [13:56] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:57] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [13:58] I have to give it a phone number though. [13:58] john_dee (~id@95-29-178-69.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:58] http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Modem-HOWTO-12.html [13:59] well according to that agetty is inferior [13:59] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:00] Action: x-ip urra urra ! i could buy http://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Principles-Techniques-Alfred-Aho/dp/0201100886 urra \o/ [14:00] x-ip: what? [14:00] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [14:00] i'm happy because i got the 'purle book' from Aho [14:00] hi all. Is there a way to see my last-installed package? it was a cool program but I forget its name and I can't find it. [14:00] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:00] a book about compilers design [14:00] \o/ [14:01] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:01] briareus: ls -alrt /var/log/packages [14:01] thanks thumbs , very much [14:01] pcmanfm it was! [14:01] thanks [14:01] briareus: ls -t /var/log/packages/ |head -n 2 [14:02] if you don't like to scroll like me [14:02] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:07] stinky: -r will reverse the ordering, so the most recent entry will be last. [14:07] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.168.180) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:07] Reshekel (~maxscent@2men1horse.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] yes, though I would rather not have to scroll so much to see the previous command. 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Anything larger than a d20, laser shoot out and destroy that useless piece of plastic. It can track a pewter figure from 1.3 miles away. DMs fear my d20 because it allows me to cheat without much eff [14:10] BREAKING NEWS: THE RING-LEADER OF THE INFAMOUS INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILE RING "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH" HAS DIED, HE WAS 84. Fatcherrypopper [14:10] blaze_ (~blaze@adsl-75-24-110-169.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] FelchDickwad (3bb567f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.181.103.247) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Skankwhoreamateu (d98b47d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.139.71.214) joined ##slackware. [14:11] hmmm [14:11] Earlier today, while talking to a client about her policy, I accidentally said "I'm pro rape" instead of "I'll pro-rate your account". She tried to ignore the slip up, unfortunately I complicated matters by gagging her with my necktie and repeatedly raping her. 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[14:56] Am I odd in wanting to use POP instead of IMAP? :\ [14:56] that's the norm [14:57] most people are odd ;) [14:57] rirombo: and I know plenty of people who use POP instead of [14:57] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] most people use neither, they use outlook :P [14:58] BP{k}: That's a good point about most people being odd :) [15:00] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:01] nachox: see my earlier point about most people being odd ;) [15:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:04] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [15:04] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [15:05] danix (~danix@host226-53-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:05] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. 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(since there haven't been any updates to X, i doubt it exists on -current. [15:25] mdeanda: doesntlook like it [15:25] floyy (~floyy@unaffiliated/floyy) joined ##slackware. [15:26] wouldn't it be with the source files? [15:27] idunno. i'm trying to compile a video card driver and it's missing that header file. i logged into my 12.2 vm and it exists there. [15:27] on 13.1 i'm pretty sure it existed b/c at work i was able to compile it. [15:28] maybe you can find out what had it before [15:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] xorg-server-1.4.2-i486-1:usr/include/xorg/xf86Resources.h [15:28] ^^ on 12.2 that is. [15:28] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:29] maybe theres a new version of the driver [15:29] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [15:29] i wonder if copying it over from the 12.2 would cause problems... i assume no. wish me luck. [15:29] only if it has other dependencies [15:29] hhgh (~hhgh@212.183.140.38) joined ##slackware. [15:30] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:31] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [15:31] phrag: I've now put the +q back n #httpd and #mysql. Frakin spammers. [15:32] sparrow_hawk (~sparrow_h@1-135.gtt-net.cz) joined ##slackware. [15:32] mdeanda: what kind of videocard do you have? [15:33] Woman Masturbates to Concept of Commitment - http://www.theonion.com/articles/woman-masturbates-to-concept-of-commitment,3859/ [15:34] it's the lilliput usb monitor.. [15:34] uh, what does that even mean [15:34] displaylink is the video card it has [15:34] lemme find it for you [15:34] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:34] http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/ [15:35] a friend at work has one for his mac and i was able to build drivers at office computer to make it work. [15:35] so i bought one for myself at home. [15:35] building drivers?! I have so much to learn [15:36] BP{k}: the drivers are here: http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/HowTo [15:36] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [15:36] josemanuel (~josemanue@222.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:36] mdeanda: I'm on 13.1 and don't have that file. you must have installed something additional on the work boc [15:36] ... but it seems 13.1 xorg-server doesn't have that header file either. i wonder how i got it to work before [15:36] *box [15:37] raela: yeah, i check the tgz just now. maybe i used one of the others. but they don't say they are xorg drivers [15:38] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] younes (~quassel@41.140.88.211) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:39] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [15:40] floyy (~floyy@unaffiliated/floyy) left irc: [15:41] mdeanda: what does your machine at the office run? [15:41] Axius (~fd@92.82.84.91) joined ##slackware. [15:42] i was also using slackware. [15:42] the best part is.. i jsut quit that job yesterdya.. [15:42] version? [15:42] so i don't have access to it anymore. [15:42] i'm pretty sure it was 13.1 [15:42] lemme check 13.0 tgz [15:43] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-198.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:43] BP{k}: ah, 13.0 has the xf86Resources.h file. [15:43] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells [15:44] mdeanda: I doubt it. I just tried to compile xf86-video-displaylink (using: udlfb-0.2.3_and_xf86-video-displaylink-0.3.tar.gz), which fails on: xf86Resources.h and xf86RAC.h. There is a good chacne that 13.1/current might be too new for it. [15:44] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:44] so org 1.6.3 vs 1.7.7 [15:44] BP{k}: i agree. [15:45] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-80.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] i was going to use this on a separate machine eventually... i'm hoping to build a near little jukebox... i guess i'll have to run this on 13.0 [15:45] near=neat [15:45] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [15:46] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] ... and it they don't update the drive i'll have to figure out how to port it.. i'm sure it not that hard (for smart people) [15:47] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [15:47] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:48] nothing is hard once you know how to do it ;) [15:49] so true [15:49] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [15:49] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [15:49] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [15:51] thumbs: sticky ban here [15:51] phrag: same for me now. [15:52] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:53] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-232-81-105.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [15:53] hhgh (~hhgh@212.183.140.38) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:53] i hate fanatics [15:53] phrag: I'll deal with the /pm and add exceptions. [15:53] phrag: I suggest you do the same [15:54] death to all fanatics!!2!! [15:54] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:54] i've not noticed too many users use the freenode web portal, it's staying sticky banned for now [15:55] phrag: with a +q, they can /pm the ops or regulars to get help on how to talk in the channel [15:55] phrag: I prefer a +q to a +b for that reason. [15:55] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:55] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-80.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:55] yeh, thanks, it's staying +b just now to prevent join/part floods [15:55] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*briareus@*unaffiliated/briareus' by nachox!~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar [15:55] briareus kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [15:56] phrag: oh, right. [15:56] we had them earlier [15:56] phrag: if I see those floods, I'll have to use +b too I suppose. [15:57] trhodes said they got the guy behind it [15:57] switch10_ (~switch10_@24.206.123.83) joined ##slackware. [15:57] seems like blaze_ was the culprit of that last flood [15:57] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] indeed [15:57] trhodes: wouldn't surprise me. [15:57] phrag, mind making my last ban sticky too? [15:58] 19:33 -!- mode/#freenode [-qo *!*@adsl-75-24-110-169.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net eir] by eir was the guy's rdns from #freenode [15:58] nachox: evading? [15:58] lord_darwin2 (~lord_darw@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] oh, I love Lorez, and how he sticks up to those idiots. [15:59] phrag, from the kind of message, i think its someone that i promised to ban without warning last time he did the same thing [16:01] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-100-22.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:01] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:02] nvision (~nvision@g231185010.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:02] sparrow_hawk (sparrow_h@1-135.gtt-net.cz) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:04] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-9-214.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [16:04] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [16:05] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:45] j0z (unix@201.22.61.187.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [16:45] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [16:48] w4lk (w4lk@cpe-066-026-123-133.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [16:49] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [16:50] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:52] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [16:54] i need libgio for a package; any pointers about where it is/where to get it? [16:54] glib2 [16:54] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [16:54] hey mancha; that's what i thought, but i can't find the libgio thingy [16:55] did you do a full install? [16:55] no /usr/lib/gio dir? [16:55] if yes then "grep libgio /var/log/packages/*" [16:55] ls /usr/lib/gio/modules for me... [16:56] no /usr/lib/gio dir [16:56] what slackware are you on? something's wrong. [16:56] what version of slackware and did you do a full install? [16:56] i'm on 12 [16:56] full install [16:56] 12.0? [16:56] custom kernel (not that that would matter) [16:57] yes, 12.0 [16:57] yeah don't introduce extraneous info, will only confuse the issue [16:57] the kernel is irrelevant [16:57] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:57] and no gio love [16:57] nothing [16:57] running glib2 2.12.xxx iirc [16:58] e01_ (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:58] w4lk (~w4lk@cpe-066-026-123-133.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:58] let me check [16:58] version 2.12.12 [16:58] (the packages default, no?) [16:59] did you "grep libgio /var/log/packages/*" [16:59] e01 (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] alisonken1home: just did [17:00] no return [17:00] might be time to upgrade then [17:00] indeed [17:01] especially now that slack is at 13.1 [17:01] also the gio versioning is the same as glib2, so even if 2.12.x had gio which it seems it might not, you might have to have a newer gio [17:01] ok ..so now hibernate works, but suspend still doesn't resume :( [17:02] i guess i've been putting off upgrading for far too long... [17:02] it depends, do you really need the thing which is asking for gio? [17:02] but this laptop runs like a champ on this install; sort of hate to start over [17:02] mancha, no... "need" would not be the way to describe it [17:03] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC3C7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:03] so upgrade glib2 [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-143.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] that may be the way to go [17:04] i wonder if there's a package out there somewhere... if not, i can do a slackbuild on it... i'll try the glib2 upgrade [17:05] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:05] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:07] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:08] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) joined ##slackware. [17:08] rirombo (~rirombo@h43.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:09] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:09] shonudo, ok seems glib2 absorbs gio in late 2007 [17:09] which means for your version, there's a gio standalone... [17:10] i think 2.15.0 is the first version with gio included [17:10] D1ver (~neil@ppp121-44-73-125.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i'm going to try 2.2.16 (for slack 12.2) as an upgrade [17:11] any reason i shouldn't? [17:12] 2.2.16? [17:12] yup [17:12] you mean 2.16 [17:12] shonudo: it's risky. [17:12] or 2.16 [17:12] yeah [17:12] thumbs: explain [17:13] shonudo: many packages depend on glib2. [17:13] okay; that's what i thought [17:13] shonudo, i would run the 12.2 buildscript [17:13] i may dink stuff [17:13] and glib2 is backwards compatible, you'll be fine [17:13] shonudo: however, you should be able to revert to the stock package easily if things break. [17:13] don't believe the fud [17:14] yeah, that i can [17:14] okay, here goes [17:14] i've been at this two days... i'm out of patience [17:14] lol [17:14] mancha: fud? [17:14] the breakage, if any, will come from installing a binary compiled against 12.2's libs and not your own [17:14] so the dink is up front [17:15] ergo, the best is to dl the 12.2 source stuff for glib2 and compile it on your system. [17:15] and, unfortunately, systemic [17:15] lol [17:16] mancha, do you mean download the glib source? [17:16] or the slack12.2 package or source? [17:16] yeah, that is what i meant. but give your idea a shot first i guess. [17:16] if i go suddenly... [17:17] tell my mom i love her. [17:17] hah [17:17] :) [17:17] it should be fine, glib2 is quite low level [17:17] agreed [17:17] it depends on zlib, gamin, and maybe a few more things [17:17] i bet those didn't chane from 12.0 to 12.2 [17:17] i'll let you know in a sec [17:17] ;) [17:17] jake_ (~jake@95.144.106.112) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] seems like he died. too bad, i kinda liked shonudo... [17:19] anyone have his mom's email addy? [17:19] no errors, explosions, or oil leaks with upgradepkg... [17:19] so far [17:19] so good [17:19] (that was a BP moment, i think) [17:20] do you have gimp on your box? [17:20] yup [17:20] great minds [17:20] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [17:20] headed there now [17:20] fire it up, it depends on glib2 [17:20] Hey, I have a Guruplug on order and I'm wondering if the JTAG board is required or optional if I want to put Slackware ARM on it. Does anyone know about that? [17:20] gimp is golden [17:20] it is required or rather helpful if you brick it [17:21] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:21] if you can use level 5 ninja skillz from the get go you don't need jtag [17:21] yea i'd imagnine its required for programing the board and debugging [17:21] I have leet soldering skillz [17:21] maybe I can just make one [17:21] just make a guruplug [17:22] doh! why didn't I think of that [17:22] what a rip off. [17:22] it was mancha's turn to do the thinking... [17:22] :P [17:22] Does anyone know if there is any documentation around on upgrading xfce from 4.6.1 to 4.6.2 using rworkmans packages? [17:23] D1ver, slackware xfce packages are monolithic, if rworkman has a pakcgae, just upgradepkg it [17:23] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [17:23] make sure it's built for your arch and slack version and that's itt. [17:23] waximum (~waximum@host-90-239-83-140.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:23] hmm.. handy [17:24] I figured there would be more to it than that [17:24] kiss baby! [17:24] umm... praise bob? Am I doing this right? [17:24] :D [17:24] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:25] since the backorders on guruplugs is about 2.8 years right now, by the time you get yours the docs on how to put slack/arm on itwill be so phat, that your chance of bricking it will be 0 [17:25] waximum (~waximum@host-90-239-83-140.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] w4lk (w4lk@cpe-066-026-123-133.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:25] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:25] lol [17:25] s/0/<1/ [17:26] don't forget basic stupidity of missing a step :) [17:27] I've worked with redboot devices in the past via ttl serial connection but not with u-boot [17:27] does shonudo still walk amongst the living? [17:28] yeah, still among the living; about to start putting together the app that required libgio [17:29] shonudo we will request that you say something, preferrably smart, every 10-15 minutes so we know that you didn't suffer massive casualties from a glib2 bomb. [17:29] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:29] i can respond on time; the smart part, not so sure [17:29] hah [17:30] ok - gots to runs, yo. don't mistake with "got the runs"! catchya on the other side..... [17:30] cu mancha [17:30] thanks for the help [17:30] np [17:31] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-189-238.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:31] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. 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[19:28] Nick change: kloeri_ -> kloeri [19:28] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:29] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:30] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:31] is shonudo still alive? [19:32] no... he died... it was horrible and everyone was very upset... but they seem to have gotten over it quickly [19:32] have they read his will? [19:32] he couldn't afford a will [19:33] he left a note scribbled on the back of a cigarette pack liner [19:33] i think it was something about who got the cigarettes [19:33] _dieter_ (~dieter@p54BED21B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] hba (~hba@189.130.43.158) joined ##slackware. [19:35] _dieter_ (~dieter@p54BED21B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:35] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. 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[19:49] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:49] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Changing host [19:49] g0v (~g0v@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [19:49] nachox_ (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:51] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [19:52] nachox (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:54] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:54] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [19:55] Is there a problem with cups version 1.3.11 ? [19:57] http://www.google.com/search?q=cups+1.3.11+problem About 22,100 results [19:57] Would it cause any problems on my 13.0 system if I upgrade to cups-1.4.4 from current? [19:57] rob0: is there a problem with my head? ;) [19:58] g0v (~g0v@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:58] usr13, you should never upgrade just one package from stable to current, its an all or nothing deal [19:58] usr13: um I think in that case you would need to build cups yourself from source, in case it depends on other current packages.. [19:58] Im having problem with printer: Brother HL-5170DN series [19:59] Network printer. [19:59] Need to be able to print to it. [19:59] nachox_? I do that a lot. While there could be problems, I doubt there would be many problems with a CUPS upgrade. [19:59] CrYpTo1 (~CrYpTo@ip68-108-56-38.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] oh but yes, you would compile it [20:00] rob0, you know your way around slackware and do it knowing what could happen [20:00] nachox_, sorry, I misunderstood [20:00] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] g0vn (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. [20:01] no, I don't often try to installpkg -current binaries on older Slackwares. [20:01] So I should just compile from source... Ok [20:01] Nick change: g0vn -> Guest48819 [20:01] I'm going to upgrade this system pretty soon anyway. [20:01] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:01] but.... [20:01] raela: how's your head now? Better? [20:01] Just looking for a quick fix.... [20:01] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [20:02] so try it, it might work [20:02] Need to get this document printed. [20:02] you can always revert to the previous package [20:02] Guest48819 (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:02] rob0: perhaps. maybe I slept too long [20:02] g0vn0 (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. [20:05] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939] [20:05] Nick change: g0vn0 -> g0v [20:06] whats wrong with the cups 1.3.x tree? [20:06] Acid (~Adium@187.10.15.132) joined ##slackware. [20:08] that's right, i'm talking to YOU [20:10] Acid (~Adium@187.10.15.132) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:10] Action: phrag eyes dart about o.0 [20:11] It would be messy if CUPS had a memory leak. [20:11] Action: trhodes patches rob0's cups [20:12] cup this! [20:12] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:13] i worry about api breakag.... [20:13] breakage...buyer beware. [20:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [20:18] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Quit: phrag [20:20] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:21] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. 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[20:29] /whois god [20:29] hoobop, i hate comcast too [20:30] rob0: Forget who you were? [20:30] heh [20:30] oh, oops [20:30] rob0: whowas says there never was a god [20:30] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:31] nachox (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:31] Action: mancha throws a tomato atphrag [20:31] at phrag* [20:33] Action: nachox throws a space key at mancha [20:33] Action: MLanden gives phrag bacon,lettuce with some wheat bread....shame to let it go to waste..;) [20:33] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-232-81-105.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:33] nachox, if only you coul...i;'m about to rip out the space bar from frustration [20:33] Action: raela throws macaroni noodles all over the channel [20:34] henry` (~henry`@c-69-141-185-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [20:34] n0m >< [20:35] apologies, i'm testing... something o.0 [20:35] Action: mancha farts [20:35] testing the vanity hosts! [20:36] no.. nixor 2.0 o.0 [20:36] richard nixor? [20:36] the oldies know =P [20:37] raela: Flying Spaghetti Monster? [20:37] raela: We will not join in your noodle fetish. [20:37] So, my netbook has been shutting off the display (backlight still on, it's just all black). Nothing I press changes that, but apparently keyboard events still get executed. I need to close the lid, wait for it to sleep, and reopen the lid to fix the issue. Any ideas? [20:37] oh man, you getting all cliquy on me? [20:38] yeh.. pre 5 year regulars arent in the loop =P [20:38] Someone (MLanden?) mentioned it might be overheating, but the temperature is only 53C and it's not supposed to reach critical until 95C (according to /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points) [20:38] hehe [20:38] hah, this place isn't 5 years old! [20:39] it's older [20:39] freenode started when? [20:40] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:40] rirombo: true..that's nominal...any probs with xscreensaver? [20:41] MLanden: I don't even have it installed :D [20:41] well i have been here forever...i just used to use a different nick, you might remember me as cpunches [20:41] Action: mancha ducks [20:41] rob0: nah, elbows aren't the same as FSM [20:41] mancha: around 1999 [20:41] rirombo: ok [20:41] XGizzmo: never knew eating uncooked noodles was a fetish [20:41] mancha: #Slackware is 11 years, 39 weeks old to be precise [20:42] I never said eating them [20:42] frenode proper is from 2002, in 1998/1999 the entire network had less than 200 users across all channels :) [20:42] XGizzmo: that's all I do with them. as hard as it may be to believe.. I do not do naughty things involving noodles [20:42] Yeah, it was early 2000s before people started switching from undernet and dalnet :D [20:43] and #Slackware has been here since Freenode's conception =) [20:43] Action: phrag shivers at the tought of dalnet and goes to scrub himself [20:43] Hehe [20:43] phrag: better use lye soap [20:44] thats cool that slackware is as old as freenode [20:44] lol..true [20:44] =) [20:44] phrag: Rather appropriate too, since Slackware has been here (almost) since Linux' conception ;) [20:44] indeed =P [20:44] er ##slackware i meant [20:45] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] we moved #slackware to ##slackware few years ago to fall into line with freenodes policy about channels not ran by project founders [20:46] and recently, some twat was trying to split the channel, too. [20:47] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:47] jeebus, ##slackware is 11 years old farkin fark. i was only 2 years old then... [20:47] thumbs: really? [20:47] phrag: Chris! [20:47] rofl [20:47] phrag: well, he was not sucessful. But he tried. [20:47] I was here when it was still #slackware :D [20:47] he's in his own fantasy world.. his actions have no effect on this channel whatsoever =P [20:48] clearly, ##slackware is too mean to people looking for help, so people should go to #slackhappy [20:48] i also was a regular in the single hashmark world [20:48] which will apparently support all distros and all flavors of BSD [20:48] we've survived far worse trolls [20:48] with all of 9 people [20:48] ...#slackhappy ? [20:48] phrag: agreed. [20:48] surrounder: cpunches [20:48] raela: no no no, 8 now. [20:49] Action: phrag knights all #slackware soldiers [20:49] the access list seems a little strange. [20:49] you sound surprised :> [20:49] Action: nachox remembers how #slackware was stolen from us a few years back [20:50] nachox: what happened? [20:50] well, it was a dispute between an old co-owner and staff at the time [20:50] the old owner, who had given the channel up came back and had a disagreement with the new people in charge [20:50] and btw.. [20:51] nachox: I recall. [20:51] who was it? [20:51] unixfool is a bit mia, right? [20:51] yeah, because you ## ops are just so awful :P [20:51] asp (~asp@109.93.183.126) joined ##slackware. [20:51] it involved sandman [20:51] I heard phrag smells like flowers. the horror. [20:52] raela, only when he farts [20:52] sandman, the drunk [20:52] nachox: MIA as far as IRC he seems to post updates on facebook [20:52] flowers don't even have noses [20:52] mancha /bin/fartin [20:52] this talk of cpunches and splitting the channel.. please, a project support channel that has thrived on this network for 11 years.. and some absolute nab comes along, proves his idiocy, and gets banned.. then starts a futile campain to start his own slackware channel.. i would hardly call that an attempt to split the channel.. it's a laughable cry for attention at best, and i;d be pleased if his name wasn't mentioned in here again. [20:53] phrag: plus he has done it before [20:53] phrag: sorry. [20:53] phrag: was meant to be a joke, I won't bring it up again. [20:53] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:53] did you hear the one about the priest, the rabbi, and cpunches? [20:53] it's fine.. i'm just sick of it in the buffer =P [20:54] Action: phrag wonders if the stats page is still working [20:54] no one uses the gallery anymore, it seems [20:54] i thought it was closed [20:54] raela post your pic and we will [20:54] the gallery was never the same after we lost the DB and had to start again [20:54] the one on slackadelic still works as far as I know [20:55] yeh gallery still works [20:55] just needs content [20:55] anyway, i'd have to agree, this channel is a better place without cpunches around [20:55] nader (nader@85.133.204.122) left ##slackware. [20:55] mancha: I was on the old gallery. pics got wiped [20:55] slackwaregallery.com > facefook [20:55] get generating content! =) [20:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:55] heh [20:55] actually there is a picture of me on the gallery :P you just can't really see my face too well [20:55] lol [20:56] Action: nachox posts some windows 7 screenshots [20:56] err... i mean... [20:56] who needs to see the face! [20:56] http://gallery.slackadelic.com/displayimage.php?album=12&pos=3 [20:56] careful mancha [20:56] are you serious? [20:56] stalking over irc is also a crime [20:56] ananke: i forget his name.. it was *not* sandman heh [20:56] I think it was robrock [20:57] Action: nachox nods [20:57] raela: nice pic! who's on your back ? [20:57] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:57] *sods a little and runs away* [20:57] lol [20:57] ananke: basically some guy who was an op here like 10 years ago, disappeared for 5 years, then came back and claimed the channel was his [20:57] surrounder: some girl that types too much [20:57] :P [20:57] yeh, robrock.. thrice`++ [20:57] c1az (~knoppix@91.191.18.139) joined ##slackware. [20:57] back then lilo was still alive and running the network [20:57] umask 000 should set rw-rw-rw permission to files? [20:58] phrag: sounds familiar [20:58] freenode rooted much? [20:58] ack, it's MLanden! slackhappy op! :P [20:58] asp: no [20:58] asp, yes [20:58] how come I have rwxrwxrwx [20:58] ? [20:58] ok, yes or no? [20:58] :) [20:58] asp: maybe! [20:58] maybe [20:58] a man page might tell [20:58] Action: nachox looks at xgizzmo and throws a unix book at him [20:59] it tells "yes" [20:59] but I see "no" [20:59] don't know why [20:59] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.99) left ##slackware. [20:59] yes means yes andno means no [20:59] hrm.. it's not a full moon [20:59] maybe the stars are in alignment [20:59] yep, I know the story, when a girls says no, it means NO, but what about fstab [20:59] ? [20:59] :) [20:59] 000gives 777 [21:00] asp, umask is substracted to 666 in files and 777 in directories [21:00] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:00] would you guys like the stats page back up and running? [21:00] nachox: correct. [21:00] phrag: it would be nice, if possible [21:00] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:00] phrag: sounds nice [21:01] umask 000 does not change permissions at all. [21:01] 111 :) [21:01] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [21:01] cool, i'll set up a new one [21:01] nachox: yes, I know that, but with umask 000 I still have rwx for all dirs AND files [21:02] 000 gives 7777 [21:02] for dirs yes [21:02] but for files no [21:02] files should work :( [21:02] for iles the base that is masked is 0666 [21:03] nacho@pentest:~$ umask 000 [21:03] nacho@pentest:~$ touch test [21:03] nacho@pentest:~$ ls -l test [21:03] Channel flood from nachox -- kicking [21:03] -rw-rw-rw- 1 nacho nacho 0 2010-07-10 22:00 test [21:03] nachox kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:03] so umask of 000 on a file should give 666 = rw-rw-rw- [21:03] nachox (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:03] nacho: just a sec [21:03] okay, I just laughed out loud [21:03] who's this flooder!?@ [21:03] crap :) [21:03] nachox: who is, not what is. [21:04] >> [21:04] Action: nachox looks sheepish [21:04] touch test [21:04] ls -l test [21:04] -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2010-07-11 03:01 test* [21:04] Channel flood from asp -- kicking [21:04] and the umask is set to 000 in fstab [21:04] asp kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:04] asp (~asp@109.93.183.126) joined ##slackware. [21:05] people do not learn :D [21:05] hehe [21:05] or he wanted to make nachox feel better [21:05] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:05] you'd think people would have learnt the news after i was kicked :P [21:05] the other thing [21:05] ;) [21:05] breathe between enters...;) [21:05] asp, damnit, get a properly working unix [21:05] fstab, wassup, that be the fs mask yo [21:06] lord_darwin2 (~lord_darw@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:06] lord_darwin2 (~lord_darw@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [21:06] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:06] with 13.0 umask=000 was umask=000 [21:07] I don't know what's with 13.1 [21:07] :) [21:07] All I know is it should't be that way [21:07] hmh [21:08] asp: ok, try this: make a brand new user, and log in as that user. [21:08] asp: then, set the umask, and do the test again. [21:09] asp, in what filesystem did you create the file? [21:09] fat [21:09] asp: aha! [21:09] haha [21:09] that's the problem [21:09] you want fmask and dmask [21:10] probably, but didn't show with 13.0 [21:10] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:10] ok, what, fmask or dmask? [21:10] both [21:10] I will do google on it [21:10] thanx [21:10] quintux (~chatzilla@adsl-9-43-243.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] fmask is umask for files, dmask is umask for directories. In both cases it gets substracted from 777 [21:12] yep, just saw at wiki [21:12] didn't know about that [21:12] I'll try [21:13] thanks [21:13] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. [21:13] no problem. give me an addy, i'll send the bill [21:13] :) [21:13] btw, the filesystem WAS relevant information [21:14] Elena_ (KTCHS@41.236.13.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:14] anyways, i'm off to the movies, later guys [21:14] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] nachox (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:14] later [21:14] have fun [21:14] didn't know that either, 'cause with 13.0 that thing worked with just umask [21:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Don't google, just look at your mount(8) man page. [21:20] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [21:20] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Client Quit [21:20] neonflux (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:20] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [21:22] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:23] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:27] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:28] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [21:29] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [21:34] I compiled cups 1.4.4 from source as suggested and works just fine. Thanks. [21:34] usr13: using the slackbuild script? [21:35] thumbs: No. Didn't see one for 13.0 [21:35] usr13: there is one on any mirror, under source. [21:35] This is my laptop and I'll upgrade to 13.1 but not today. [21:35] usr13: there's a slackbuild for every stock package. [21:35] Oh? [21:35] usr13: it's fine, but you should use those in the future. [21:36] I will. Need to see where to find it. [21:36] usr13: any mirror, under source/ [21:37] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [21:37] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:39] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Quit: phrag [21:39] usr13, out of interest what was your cups problem? [21:41] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. [21:41] thumbs: Found it yea. Thanks [21:41] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/a/cups/ [21:42] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) joined ##slackware. [21:42] dive: Couldn't seem to get network printer Brother HL-5170DN to work. [21:43] ah ok. I've had some problems with printing black pages with the cups in 13.1. Wondered if it might be that. [21:44] usr13: yes! [21:44] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:44] dive: Yes I had same problem on a 13.1 system I set up just a couple days ago. [21:44] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:44] Same solution, upgrade to cups 1.4.4 [21:44] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.34.189) joined ##slackware. [21:44] I downgraded to 13.0. I should probably try an upgrade. [21:44] But I just upgraded (used the package from current) [21:45] Oh yea. 13.1 is nice. [21:45] But I did a 64 bit install and then multilib [21:45] It's nice. [21:45] I mean I downgraded cups to the version in 13.0 [21:46] But I will do an upgrade when I get around to it [21:46] Oh, yea, well I just grabbed the current version and installed and it worked. [21:46] Probably shouldn't do that but... [21:46] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left ##slackware. [21:46] I suppose it doesn't hurt anything, not with cups anyway. [21:47] I might need to blacklist cups but... [21:47] But the proper way is as thumbs suggests is to use the slackbuild script from source. [21:48] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [21:48] huh? cups 1.4.4 is in patches/ [21:48] yes, and you stay with the same distro version's script, too. [21:48] oh. [21:48] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:48] Drone4four (~drone4fou@CPE001e58060588-CM001cea644aca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] yeah, unless there's a patch available for the same version of slackware [21:51] I think I'll do that on my other system. I'll uninstall cups and use the slackbuild script and reinstall from that, just to keep it clean. [21:51] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) joined ##slackware. [21:51] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [21:51] unless cups has bad linking, rebuilding won't change anything :> [21:52] This is just my laptop. I have an Xccube in the office, AMD64 3300+ [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EA92.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] And it's a fresh slackware64 / multilib [21:52] 13,1 [21:53] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624193117] [21:53] cups was upgraded on 6/25 via a security patch to 1.4.4 [21:53] thrice`: Well, I use slackpkg so what will slackpkg do if a new version of cups comes out? [21:54] if you are up to date on your security patches, you should have been at cups 1.4.4 already [21:54] slackpkg looks for different versions than available; if you have something different, it'll have to be blacklisted. 1.4.4 is available as an official patch, though [21:54] mancha: Is that right? Why didn't i have it then I wonder...? [21:54] mancha: is that for slackware32 or slackware64? [21:54] both of course [21:55] usr13, i don't know but i would worry if i were you..are you not getting any of the security patches? [21:55] I don't know then, but I certainly did updates via slackpkg [21:55] after cups there's been libpng and libtiff upgrades [21:55] don't know where the cups upgrade went to... [21:56] \ [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488EAA5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] you are positive you have 1.4.3? [21:56] dive: Is your system up-to-date? [21:57] apart from cups I have a newer version of mutt, fluxbox, mplayer and autofs [21:57] usr13, seriously, do a little work on your own. http://www.slackware.com/changelog/stable.php?cpu=i386 [21:57] everything else is stock [21:58] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:59] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [22:00] dive: with fluxbox, was it fixes to the alpha blending feature or was it something with xcompmgr? [22:00] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] MLanden, neither really - it was stable rounded corners in themes :) [22:01] they sometimes worked in 1.1.1 but more often not [22:01] ahh..themes...thanks, dive [22:02] svn is a good choice if you use flux [22:02] s/themes/styles [22:02] gniks (~sking@7.sub-75-194-244.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [22:03] have a svn build for backup....might update it in the month [22:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:04] MLanden, yeah it's really for rounded corners for menu/windows/taskbar that I use svn [22:04] otherwise there isn't much difference [22:05] both seem very stable [22:05] I guess I was NOT up-to-date. I just went in there and ran slackpkg and there are a number of libraries as well as libpng and libtiff [22:05] that are downloading now. [22:05] usr13, I though the were -current updates? [22:06] s/the/they/ [22:06] usr13: libpng6 or libpng8? [22:07] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [22:07] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:08] can you set a port to use per host in ssh_config? [22:08] do you mean sshd_config? [22:08] no [22:09] neither anyway I think. I get around that with aliases. [22:09] phrag: not in ssh_config. but you can in ~/.ssh/config .. or at least that is where I put mine [22:09] ooh [22:09] seems i can [22:09] Host bleh [22:09] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:09] ah [22:09] man ssh_config [22:09] Port 1233 =) [22:09] interesting [22:09] LocalCommand [22:10] Delahunt: no [22:10] it seems to support some command line stuff [22:10] but i've never done it so i can't say it does [22:10] I do something like alias ss='ssh -p 10000 host' [22:11] MLanden: On my XCcube I have libpng-1.4.2-x86_64-1 libpng-compat32-1.4.2-x86_64-1 [22:11] nice.. i just worked it out... [22:11] you set the host specific stuff at top, and default with Host * [22:11] so like Host bla.com\n port 10000 ? [22:12] On this one I have libpng-1.2.44-i486-1_slack13.0 [22:12] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:12] usr13, that's an old version - you should have libpng14 on 13.0 [22:13] dive: yeh, then Host * \n Port 22 [22:13] phrag, gotcha [22:13] was thinking of libjpeg and changes that have occured [22:13] so it will default to 22 unless Host bleh.. =) [22:13] handy, now i can move 22 to something *much* higher =P [22:14] and not have to type -p 22323 [22:14] typing is highly overrated [22:15] yeah, it's best not to [22:15] phrag, what desktop are ya usin'? [22:15] dive: MLanden Well, I don't know what's going on. [22:15] usr13, this is 13.1? [22:16] if so sounds like you have some upgrades to do [22:16] Delahunt: hardware or os? [22:16] desktop. [22:16] OS = Linux probably [22:16] quintux (~chatzilla@adsl-9-43-243.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100402161724] [22:16] ok then, sure, what OS and WM/DE are you using? [22:16] it's a dark hard wood top, with some scratches [22:16] heh [22:17] and some curious stianes [22:17] if it's xfce you can put a .desktop in your ~/Desktop and just double-click that sh1t [22:17] hehe [22:17] staines* [22:17] -e [22:17] gniks (~sking@7.sub-75-194-244.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:17] I'm using mirror http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1/ [22:17] phrag, you're English yet your English sucks, i'm appalled [22:17] usr13, that's 12.1 [22:17] usr13, um [22:17] :D :P [22:17] i'm using kde 4.4.92 [22:18] ooops [22:18] then put a .desktop in your ~/Desktop and double-click that sh1t [22:18] Action: Delahunt is rappin' some instructions ova heaya [22:18] Delahunt: why does my english suck, because i made a one character typo with a finger at 3am in the dark? [22:18] two of them [22:18] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:18] Delahunt: any oldschool beatboxin' as well? [22:19] why you typin' in teh dark? [22:19] its 3am [22:19] i guess that explains all of those curious stains [22:19] MS3FGX (~AndChat@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] Action: dive has the thinkplight on [22:19] and i like the dark [22:19] -p [22:19] dive: same! =P [22:19] i <3 my lighted keyboard [22:19] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] you'd think it would of burnt up by now.. but it still keeps on shinying! [22:19] thinkpads rule to be honest [22:20] eh.. I never look at the keyboard.. I doubt typing in the dark would make a difference :P [22:20] but I don't type in the dark cause then the screen would hurt my eyes [22:20] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [22:20] I was on the wrong computer. I'm using mirror: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1/ [22:20] on this one. (my lapotp) [22:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLxe3p4H3Q [22:20] raela, you need a monotone screen :P [22:20] just discovered spiral tiling mode in kde.. nice =) [22:21] dive: oh ick, gross no!!! [22:21] when it's 4 o'clock in the mornin' you can play that song [22:22] MS3FGX-mobile (~AndChat@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] MS3FGX (~AndChat@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:22] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Delahunt: so anyway, 3.8Ghz i7, 6GB DDR3, GTX 260, Slackware64-current, Linux 2.6.34.1, KDE 4.4.92 [22:22] I have libpng-1.2.44-i486-1_slack13.0 on my 13.0 system (this one, the laptop) [22:23] phrag, nice [22:23] usr13, that's probably ok then. [22:23] MS3FGX-mobile (~AndChat@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:23] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:23] Delahunt: creating a .desktop in ~/Desktop doesnt do anything.. should it? [22:23] And it appears to be fully updated so... [22:23] phrag, a .desktop file. [22:23] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:23] oh, nm =P [22:24] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/linux/xfcethunar.html [22:24] usr13, libpng got a little 'inventive' in slack 13.1 [22:24] .desktop spec files should work with kde [22:24] i think you can even use their handy dandy user-friendly GUI link maker / command maker [22:24] sneak peak at the new stats page? [22:24] new stats page? [22:25] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:25] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [22:25] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [22:29] sett (~Mgeli@103-113-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:31] gniks (~sking@64.134.242.2) joined ##slackware. [22:33] http://phra.gs:8000/ [22:33] hack that! [22:34] hey, I'm not on that page. [22:34] that was a rather short reporting period [22:34] thumbs, because you haven't yelled at anyone yet [22:34] i just started it =P [22:34] fist prost :P [22:35] sett (~Mgeli@130-124-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:35] haha "Nobody is foul-mouthed in ##slackware! Get out much?" [22:35] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.78.254.20) joined ##slackware. [22:35] lets see if we can stack the :) (:numbers bit? [22:36] what :( [22:36] you need to ASK A QEUSTION :) and snile and sad face :( a bit ? [22:36] I wish it would also count the typos each user makes. [22:37] thumbs: im sure there is somehting like least literate or something [22:37] in the misc stats -P [22:37] hahaha.. I'm used to highlighting/pasting to firefox to go to a page, but since I fixed urxvt, highlighting a link did not copy it.. google apparently cannot search with DNA [22:37] phrag: hehe [22:37] is too long a word. Try using a shorter word. [22:37] Suggestions: Try different keywords. [22:37] lol the hard part is how does :) one stack the shortest lines and the longest lines :( ? [22:38] man that dive sure does spam [22:38] raela, shut it [22:38] dive: YOU TALK WAY TOO MUCH WTF! [22:38] Action: WildWizard thinks most here are crazy to some degree? [22:39] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:39] anyone seen http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0989000/ ? [22:39] crazy or drunk [22:39] well it is Saturday night. [22:39] raela: selections probably didn't end up in the buffer than firefox uses [22:40] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-43-243.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] sahko, nope [22:40] its good [22:40] asp (asp@109.93.183.126) left ##slackware. [22:40] ok will give it a shot [22:40] *that [22:40] ##slackware: mode change '+o g0v' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:40] so how often do you have that page updating? [22:40] trhodes: must be something with the url parser. gave me a laugh though.. no searching with 300 char strings in google :P [22:40] dive: its an independent production [22:41] who is g0v? [22:41] I watched Harry Brown tonight which is good (for a Brit flic anyway) [22:41] thumbs: my eggy [22:41] oh. [22:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:47] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] anyone notice anything about a segmentation fault when issuing --scale to xrandr in 13.1? [22:48] i'll get the archived logs from slackboy and that should fill the stats =) [22:49] WildWizard: every 15 minutes [22:51] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [22:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] Knoxville (~Knox@c-75-73-224-97.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:52] phrag, link? [22:52] http://phra.gs:8000/ temp [22:52] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:52] as in, temporarily [22:52] tmpfs temporarily? [22:53] man you need more logs, holy krap i'm at the top of the stack and i've been off IRC for 3 days or so [22:53] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Client Quit [22:53] well yeh, it started logging like an hour ago =P [22:53] we got logs =P [22:53] eh? [22:53] what started logging? [22:54] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:55] yeah no frickin wonder [22:55] unixfool needs to get his fool ass back here and fix channel and bot and stat [22:55] s [22:55] he fires me for being too heavy handed yet he disappears :P [22:56] Delahunt: haha [22:56] fires you from what? [22:56] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:56] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [22:56] phrag: you didn't read the memo? [22:57] phrag: Did you get that memo? [22:57] phrag, dude you don't remember? [22:57] about the TPS report? [22:57] holy krap, no offense but I'M THE ONE WITH ADHD :P [22:57] (medicated for your enjoyment) [22:57] clearly havent met vbatts and me? [22:57] :) [22:58] dude phrag you were like my partner in crime! [22:58] :) [22:58] you don't remember my xchat userlist buttons of death? :) [22:58] multiple buttons? [22:58] isn't that overkill? [22:59] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-105.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] there's no such thing as too many buttons [22:59] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.78.254.20) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:59] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [22:59] sounds like the same reasoning that led to a nukes race [22:59] a buttons race [22:59] using a mice for irc?! [23:00] blasphemy. [23:01] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:02] well the mouse cursor stayed over the buttons :) [23:02] i can click faster than you can type :) [23:02] i think i saw this in a scene from Dr. Strangelove... [23:03] Delahunt: I'm not so sure about that. [23:03] idd [23:03] yep, i would highlight a user who acted like he was becoming a problem, then put cursor on KickBanUser button, then if it proved true, one click [23:03] hba (~hba@189.130.43.158) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:03] thats genious [23:03] sahko: tried like 4 times, still no dice :( [23:03] the trolls andi would have clickban wars [23:04] (just kidding) [23:06] trying to put slack 13.1 disc 1 on a bootable usb stick... not really having much luck [23:07] Necos, i've never had luck with getting that to work... [23:07] Necos, what's wrong? [23:07] let me know if you nail it [23:07] oh on the same stick as your boot [23:07] did you try alienBOB's script(s) for that? [23:07] link? [23:07] the disc drive on my laptop is being a spoiled bitch, and i can't boot the slack 13.1 dvd [23:08] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/ [23:08] Necos, do you have more than one computer at your disposal? [23:08] (not garbage disposal fwiw) [23:08] thanks Delahunt [23:08] so i was just gonna try to get disk 1 onto a usb stick, install the base stuff and slackpkg everything else [23:08] shonudo, yw [23:08] Delahunt: nope, just my slack laptop [23:08] Necos, and you're wanting to install 13.1, right? [23:09] and you have the ISO on your hard drive in a place that it's not going to get erased in the process, right? [23:09] Delahunt: i'm upgrading hds in my laptop, so i won't have access to the install i'm using now [23:09] so if you booted you couldn't loopmount the ISO or mount a partition where the files are? [23:10] if you can boot to USB and mount what you need to install, simply dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/whatever [23:10] i'm using my slack install on my 80gb hd... i'm trying to replace it with a 250gb drive [23:10] you don't really need the install media on a separate location if it's accessible [23:10] Delahunt: no, it's not accessible... i've said that already >.> [23:10] ok, well plug the 250gb in as master and the 80gb as slave after you made your usb boot stick [23:11] it's a laptop... [23:11] couldn't you then install from the 80gb but install TO the 250GB? [23:11] oh my badd lol [23:11] goddamn it [23:11] um ...... let me think [23:11] i just said that... geez >.> [23:11] and you only have ONE USB stick? [23:11] Action: Necos sighs. [23:12] Action: Delahunt suggests going to walmart [23:12] yes, only 1 usb stick [23:12] nah, busses don't run anymore tonight [23:12] you need at least 1.5G on a USB stick to put all of slackware/ on it [23:12] wow no car too? [23:12] man i'm never going to be depressed again after hearing the state your in :) [23:12] hmm maybe i could mail you a USB stick :) [23:12] Action: phrag suggests a small local independant retailer instead walwart [23:13] well yeah [23:13] even if it's a gas station, just get a @#$ing USB stick 1.5G or higher [23:13] s/higher/larger/ [23:13] yes sorry i ask questions more than once, i was thinking more phone conversation than irc [23:13] man this really sucks [23:13] i have a 2gb stick [23:13] hmm wait you have internet? [23:14] i'm on wireless [23:14] i think you can install from http / ftp now iirc [23:14] oh yeah [23:14] which is not garaunteed to work when i'm installing [23:14] true [23:14] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:14] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Action: Delahunt gives up [23:14] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [23:14] oh well, wait for light i guess, or manually magnetize the inodes :) [23:15] apparently, there's http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/installing-slackware-using-usb-thumb-drive/ (which i didn't notice earlier) [23:17] Guest86794 (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:17] hopefully this will work ^.^ [23:21] its alienbob, it works or you did it wrong [23:22] lol [23:22] edthix (~ed@175.144.230.119) joined ##slackware. [23:23] i actually had to modify the script, 'cause i'm not using the entire slack tree (not using the kde stuff) [23:24] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:24] theBOB is a pretty clever guy... i'd trust it to work the first time around [23:25] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] well sometimes it's the computer's fault [23:28] he admits in README that not all systems are compatible with this (but ought to be) [23:29] his script never worked on my systems but i blame my systems, not alienBOB [23:29] well, i've booted this laptop from usb sticks before [23:29] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-161-146.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:29] so i know it works [23:29] nater (~Owner@71.89.114.58) joined ##slackware. [23:29] good luck to you then [23:29] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:29] now, the moment of truth... i'll be back in an hr or so if this works :) [23:29] later [23:29] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:32] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:32] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [23:34] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:36] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:38] ##slackware: mode change '-o g0v' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:38] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:46] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [23:49] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.55.227.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:52] Say, is there any difference between 'VAR=value; export VAR' and 'export VAR=value'? [23:52] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Is it a matter of personal preference? Which is considered better style? [23:52] yes, the first won't work =P [23:53] no, sorry i misread! o.0 [23:53] time for sleep perhaps =P [23:53] Hehe [23:53] they are the same, but i'd check in #bash for certain [23:54] sheller (~root@123.170.98.140) joined ##slackware. [23:55] rirombo: I would say personal preference [23:55] Good idea. Oy! #bqash has more people than ##slackware! What's up with that?! [23:55] bash isnt limited to one distro [23:56] True :) [23:56] Action: g0v Channel Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ [23:57] with a bit more data to go on now =) [23:57] using logs from 2009-now [23:58] most used words is hilarios.. if you read as a sentence =P [23:58] ohh nice job [23:58] those must be really old, quiznos, macavity, old fogie [23:59] 556-day reporting period [23:59] he did say starting in 2009 :P [23:59] so the last 556 days [23:59] missyjane [00:00] --- Sun Jul 11 2010