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[00:50] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [00:50] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [00:51] how do i get my printer working? [00:51] i plugged it in after boot, do i need to restart? [00:51] it's a usb printer [00:53] read up on cups [00:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:54] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@80-123-53-54.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Connection timed out [00:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-31.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:59] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [01:00] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:00] what's a device uri for my printer? [01:00] jeev, ? [01:02] That's dependent on a good few USB paths and such being in there. If I recall, CUPS will try to guess. (That's an HP user talking, though, so maybe not for others.) [01:02] so... what should I put? [01:03] it defaulted to "socket" [01:03] There should be one that's like usb:/lots-of-cruft-here. [01:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [01:07] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [01:08] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [01:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] grazymax (n=grazymax@host56-179-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:13] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-130-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:15] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521079.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[01:25] lol [01:25] FF started, but didn't run well. [01:26] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [01:27] http://www.imageno.com/rdi7mvvf5i9kpic.html [01:29] jude1 (n=jude@mail.kenfreight.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:29] hi [01:29] hey jude [01:29] (sorry, had to) [01:29] hi jude1 [01:30] anyone running slackware13.0 on dell studio laptop? [01:30] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:30] i'm having problems with sound [01:30] in the audio group? [01:31] hi matu [01:31] if yes, check alsamixer explicitly and ensure that master/pcm are both enabled and somewhat loud [01:31] thanks veritos and packeteer [01:31] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.124) joined ##slackware. [01:32] got the printer working, but i have old, dry ink :( [01:32] jude1: no sound at all or just in a specific program? [01:32] Reticenti, meaning that you now have a printer-holding-apparatus covered in dry powder? [01:33] veritos: no, the black doesnt do anything, and the color only does very light magenta [01:36] Action: veritos 's department at school has free printing on the "be reasonable" system [01:36] my department gives us 150 prints [01:36] this makes him extraordinarily happy [01:36] non majors get 50 [01:36] i havent declared my engy major yet, so i only get 50 :( [01:37] i would print at school [01:37] but that means i have to go outside [01:37] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [01:37] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-130-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:37] it is a little warm outside though [01:37] 44F [01:38] grazymax (n=grazymax@host229-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:38] i nearly went to a school with tunnels between all buildings [01:38] (University of Alaska Fairbanks) [01:39] lol [01:39] that would be intense [01:39] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.124) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:39] students'll compete to stay inside the longest [01:40] I was stationed where tunnels were between most of the buildings - but it was adak, alaska (small island at the bottom of the aleutian chain of islands) [01:40] can be interesting living [01:40] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [01:41] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:43] there is no sound at all. [01:43] alisonken1noc, USAF? [01:43] nothing shopws up when I call kmix [01:43] jude1, run `lspci | grep -i audio` and pastebin the results, please [01:44] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [01:44] anybody know much about tcl [01:45] jude1, that's funny, i have the same card and it worked pretty much out of the box [01:45] or tcl shell [01:45] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [01:45] jude1, run 'alsamixer' and check that the PCM and Master sliders are of adequate volume and not muted [01:46] jva (n=jva@78.155.83.7) joined ##slackware. [01:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] after a fresh installation, i've installed grub, when i run grub is says /usr/sbin/grub no such file of directory, although it exists, and the shell autocompletes it [01:49] jva, it's probably not executable [01:49] ls gives ruxr-xr-x root [01:50] or /usr/sbin isn't in your path [01:50] it gives the same error even if run the full path command [01:51] tried as root? [01:51] i am root [01:51] oh, duh [01:51] what does 'file /usr/sbin/grub' [01:51] output? [01:52] it gives "/usr/sbin/grub: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped" [01:53] i'm running 64 uname gives Linux jva-lpx 2.6.29.6 #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 11:58:18 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [01:53] any problems with 64? [01:54] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [01:54] jva, you're not going to get GRUB working on 64 unless you did multilib [01:55] (according to alienBOB's guide) [01:55] multilib [01:55] ? [01:55] what is the best way for keeping two directories identical using rsync? [01:56] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-79-75.cia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:56] is there a russian users? help me please to configure my terminal and console to correct cyrillic indication [01:56] i want to be able to work on both directory a and b while keeping them current both ways and not let deleted files get restored by a sync [01:56] if that makes any sense [01:57] :D [01:57] veritos, I've gone to the mixer made sure nothing is muted. put speaker at max and still no sound [01:57] jude1, okay, `lsmod | grep intel` <- does that list the module as loaded? [01:58] gerrh, maybe git would be a bit better for that? [01:58] snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi 12028 1 [01:58] snd_hda_intel 23624 0 [01:58] snd_hda_codec 53788 3 snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel [01:58] Channel flood from jude1 -- kicking [01:58] snd_pcm 68128 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec [01:58] intel_agp 25628 1 [01:58] snd 50820 12 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer [01:58] jude1 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:59] oops [01:59] lol [02:00] i accidentally the newb [02:00] veritos: shame, shame, shame. ;) [02:01] I guess he hasn't realized what happened. [02:01] veritos, i got no clue, but i'll look into it. thanks :D [02:01] mrselfpwn: Sabayon is planning to make a gamers dvd. [02:01] !kickass [02:02] where you see this info? [02:02] distrowatch.com [02:02] mrselfpwn: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091109#news [02:03] Fabio is also going to put together a gamer's DVD. You can find more information and ask questions on the forum. [02:03] grazymax (n=grazymax@host229-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] gerrh: if they both have access to the interweb, you might be interested in dropbox [02:04] and assuming that the files arent too big [02:04] jude1 (n=jude@mail.kenfreight.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:04] wb jude [02:04] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:05] Reticenti, getting around my dependancy of the interwebs is the goal [02:05] i want to be able to do a quick brainless sync between laptop and fileserver and be on my way [02:05] veritos, I keep on getting the error 'Audio playback device HDA Intel (STAC92xx) does no work. Falling back to .' [02:06] gerrh: dropbox is automagical, drop a file into the dropbox folder, and it's synced to both ends [02:06] or all of the ends [02:06] not have to concider where the last changes occurred before syncing or end up carrying obsolete files deleted from either source [02:06] oh [02:06] check it out [02:06] jude1, this forum post might help you: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=605983 [02:06] yea, big files is an issue though [02:06] ah [02:06] would be great keeping it all on the lan [02:08] fire|bird: thanks for the link [02:08] gerrh: if you dont want a dependenciy on the web, then idk [02:08] i havent messed with that [02:08] but as someone else said, maybe git? [02:09] i am attempting to configure mysqld [02:09] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:09] anyone know what it means when mysqld is running adn that the socket exists [02:09] ? [02:09] git seems a bit overwhelming at first glance [02:10] gerrh: man gittutorial [02:11] git actually has some nice man pages [02:12] gerrh: what window manager do you use? [02:14] AEnima1577: should mean that you have mysqld server running on your system [02:14] but you may want to verify the config before using it [02:14] mrselfpwn, gnome [02:15] alisonken1noc, but im not done with the configuration [02:15] i am attempting to set a password [02:15] i'm messing with a bug on my computer screen with my mouse. [02:15] great fun [02:16] which bug might that be? [02:16] idk but he's scared of the mouse pointer. [02:16] when i do locate mysqld.sock, why doesnt it show up??? [02:16] heh [02:16] :D [02:17] he thinks it's going to eat him, because he jumps and flys to get out of the way. [02:17] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:17] AEnima1577: run updatedb as root [02:18] gerrh: xfce includes a plugin for git that integrates into the thunar file manager. there may even be something like that for gnome [02:18] mrselfpwn, whats that going to do? [02:19] AEnima1577: it will update your locate database and include any new files. [02:19] i havent built a database yet [02:19] and its hanging pretty long [02:19] you said locate isn't working ? [02:19] not on that .sock [02:20] which ive read is the case for a number of other people who have had this problem [02:20] i'm confused or you are. [02:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:21] mrselfpwn, updatedb didnt get rid of the error [02:21] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:21] i would like to think we are both particially confused [02:21] i agree [02:22] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [02:22] error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysql.sock' exists! [02:22] right [02:23] well thats where i am stuck [02:23] and now since you ran updatedb the locate command would find that file if it exists. [02:23] ok, ran that [02:23] and still error, should i just create a file called mysql.sock in that dir? [02:25] so locate mysql.sock returns nothing? [02:25] correct [02:25] but i have gone back and tried.... [02:25] /usr/bin/mysqld_safe & [02:25] that was an attemp at starting the daemon [02:26] and it goes thorugh, starts the deamon, and then stops it [02:26] how about /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ? [02:26] is that file executable? [02:26] same error [02:27] nohup: redirecting stderr to stdout [02:27] Starting..... [02:27] STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysql/mysql.pid [02:27] 091109 mysqld ended [02:28] file is indeed executable [02:28] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-hhwqehspohezhlph) joined ##slackware. [02:28] AEnima1577: try /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld restart [02:29] exact same error [02:29] and you have a database for mysql? [02:29] such as using: mysql_install_db --user=mysql [02:29] there are no files in the /var/run/mysql dir, so i dont know what its talking about with this mysql.pid file [02:29] to create one? [02:30] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Connection timed out [02:30] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:30] I just re ran that command fire|bird, and I am getting an error [02:30] "Installation of system tables failed!" [02:31] greetings :) [02:31] checking the logs..... [02:31] Action: The-Croupier tuesday is soooo bad..:( sick,tired,and thinking friday is a long way [02:32] wht does "rc.fuse stop" not work? [02:32] (i'm in the dir it's located in [02:32] is that to me, Reticenti? [02:32] ) [02:32] to anyone that can answer [02:32] AEnima1577: ok, and you do have a mysql user, right? [02:33] correct [02:33] and group [02:33] Reticenti: how did you run it? [02:33] got those check, fire|bird [02:33] Reticenti: preceed it with a ./ when your in the same directory [02:33] oh, d'oh [02:33] i'm stupid [02:33] AEnima1577: What's the perms on /var/lib/mysql? [02:34] fire|bird, looks like this my be my issue: /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno:13) [02:35] brb [02:41] enjoying "moc" console music player :D [02:41] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [02:43] fhobia: if you like moc might like this http://code.google.com/p/moc-tray/ [02:45] :-) looks cool [02:45] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [02:45] i'm controlling it via fvwm key bindings right now [02:46] not really needed,works nice tho. sweet fvwm rocks too :) [02:46] :-D [02:46] i was using mpd for awhile, but it seems to freeze when i try to resume from suspend [02:46] err it freezes my computer so [02:46] yuh [02:47] and it looks like i don't have to rebuild database with moc which is +1 ! [02:48] indeed and moc has its own sound-server,can detach,etc its pretty versatile [02:48] great feeling when you realize you don't have to write your own [02:48] :-D [02:48] for mpd lots of people like ncmpcpp [02:49] yeah, that was pretty nice [02:49] yuh i've used moc longer than the rest,does what i need i like it. [02:50] :-) [02:50] anyways,on the way out figured fwiw i'd pass on the moc-tray. have a good one g'night all. [02:51] thanks for the great suggestions as usual, Rat409 :-D [02:51] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:53] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:53] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:54] AEnima1577: errno:13 is a permission denied error. [02:56] fire|bird: hiya, how are you today? [02:56] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] The-Croupier: I am good, thanks. you? [02:57] fire|bird [02:57] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:57] ? i am root? how much more premission do i need? [02:58] You need super cow powers [02:58] Action: Alan_Hicks has super cowboy powers. [02:58] i left those in my super milker pants [02:58] greetings XGizzmo, Alan_Hicks [02:58] fire|bird: Greetings, peasant. [02:59] lol [02:59] low dare [02:59] so, lets pretend i live in a world where everything hates me, and i simply do not have the passwird [02:59] would re compiling allow me to reset that password, you think? [02:59] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Action: Alan_Hicks just found a bug in installpkg. [03:00] kill it [03:00] AEnima1577: no [03:00] XGizzmo, any helpful advise then? [03:00] Granted, no one uses this functionality of installpkg, else we would have heard about it long ago. [03:01] Basically, it boils down to this. tar tzvvf foo.txz [03:01] AEnima1577: forgot the password for the mysql user? [03:02] i guess so [03:02] i mean thats really the only explination [03:02] cause ive tried resetting it, and it doesnt seem to do anything [03:02] AEnima1577: what are the perms on /var/lib/mysqld? [03:03] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.2.124) joined ##slackware. [03:03] chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld && chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql [03:03] bert, no such file or directory [03:03] Bug is only ever triggered when some one runs installpkg -warn on a non-.tgz package. [03:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420415.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:03] mysql_install_db --user=mysql [03:03] ok lets try it again [03:03] XGizzmo: He tried that, that's what gave the perms error. [03:03] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno:13) [03:04] ok [03:04] [Warning] max join size..... no biggie [03:04] Hmm... that's a new one on me. [03:05] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:05] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:05] ok, new ideas for how to start the server? [03:05] does anyone know of that site with terminal tips? like sudo !! [03:05] AEnima1577: Have to figure out how you broke it first. [03:05] /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start [03:05] wait..... [03:06] Thom1 (n=thom1@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-240-237.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] hi [03:06] hola [03:06] AEnima1577: You have any databases in it already, or is this the first time you're setting it up? [03:06] Reticenti: commandlinefu.com [03:06] ah, thanks [03:06] hi The-Croupier [03:06] it looks like it may have started succsessfully [03:06] err, Thom1 [03:06] Alan_Hicks, first time setup [03:07] is there a way to know reverse dep with official slackware packages (for example to know if libvorbis is required by another package) ? [03:07] AEnima1577: Then the absolute easiest thing to do is to remove the contents of /var/lib/mysql, re-install them with mysql_install_db, and then start it up normally. [03:07] Thom1: No. [03:07] ok thanks, bye [03:07] Thom1 (n=thom1@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-240-237.adsl.proxad.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [03:08] lol [03:08] Well that was easy. [03:08] lol [03:08] Action: Alan_Hicks pushes his Staples button. [03:08] ok [03:08] haha [03:08] 3:08 in the morning. This is the best humor you're getting out of me. :^) [03:08] when i type /user/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'password' [03:08] do i need to have the '' around my password [03:08] ? [03:09] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.2.124) left irc: "Leaving" [03:09] AEnima1577: The answer is a definite 'maybe'. [03:09] I'll give you a point for humor Alan_Hicks [03:09] only if.... [03:09] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-hhwqehspohezhlph) got netsplit. [03:09] you clearly answer that question now [03:09] but i mean, its a whole point for humor [03:10] thats hard to refuse at 3:10am, at least where im at [03:10] If your password contains any characters that the shell will interpret (such as :[]{}()&<, etc) you must have the quotes, and preferably single quotes. [03:10] if it doesnt have any of those characters? it should work without the '' , correct? [03:10] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Double quotes will still all some shell interpretation (such as variable expansion) while single quotes will not. [03:10] AEnima1577: That's my understanding, yes. [03:11] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-hhwqehspohezhlph) returned to ##slackware. [03:11] Nick change: przemoc86 -> przemoc [03:11] Of course there are other possible special characters. That is not an exhaustive list. [03:11] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-181.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] ok i think im getting closer [03:11] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:11] In other words, use the damn single quotes for your own good (and keep single-quotes out of the mysql password). [03:12] i am pretty sure i set the user password [03:12] AFK. I gotta get another beer. [03:12] but when i went to to the /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h MyComputer password 'password' [03:13] Alan_Hicks: so, your humor will become better then? [03:13] Action: fire|bird runs [03:13] fire|bird: Or my typing worse. [03:13] alternativly, if you want to use single quotes in the password you can do so by wrapping your password in $'' and escaping out the single quote like so: $'cr@zyp\'a\'s\'sword' [03:13] error: ' Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111' [03:13] SiegeX: Yes, but that's just ugly as sin in Sunday School. [03:13] f-ing a, if i input that, i would have no idea what my actuatl password was [03:14] Alan_Hicks: hope your typing doesnt start with /ban nicknameList [03:14] AEnima1577: Try --password 'password'. [03:15] after the beer that is [03:15] Alan_Hicks: well, worse typing could cause humorous moments. [03:15] The-Croupier: Just pray that no one comes in with a nick beginning with 'th' or I may ban you from failed tab completion. [03:15] lol [03:15] i keep getting lost connectoin to the server at reading inital communication packet [03:15] Action: Alan_Hicks has done that before. [03:16] error111 [03:16] Action: fire|bird behaves or it'll be bye bye birdy. :/ [03:16] AEnima1577: Sorry, but I'm not SQL guy. Maybe you should try #mysql? [03:16] then you can be fire|phoenix when you get unbanned [03:16] lol [03:16] AEnima1577: But first, are you even certain thay MySQL is running? [03:16] sitting in there too, they arnt nearly as friendly or helpful [03:16] i wondering if that will start a war against me by those mysql guys [03:17] i am now certain its running [03:17] how do I clear my $PATH? [03:17] cause i tried to start it and it told me it was already running [03:17] AEnima1577: Confirmed by ps? [03:17] mysqld_safe [03:17] is running confirmed by ps [03:17] AEnima1577: That _could_ be caused by a bad pid file in rare conditions. [03:17] if i do "export PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar" it just adds it to the end of my PATH [03:17] AEnima1577: Ok. [03:18] Reticenti: you want it to only use /foo/bar as your path? [03:18] AEnima1577: "mysqladmin -u root --password='password'" Try that. [03:18] i got that one to work [03:19] its when i try to add the -h in [03:19] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:19] wollw: well, i'm trying to get rid of "." as one of my path options, but I can't seem to get it [03:19] that is what i am having trouble with right now [03:19] AEnima1577: Or simply "mysqladmin -u root" and let it prompt you for the password. [03:19] ah [03:19] Action: The-Croupier hopes ban doesnt last for long :( and tab completion fails :p [03:20] Reticenti: sed is your friend for this. [03:20] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:20] Reticenti: /etc/profile [03:20] /etc/profile.d? [03:20] no [03:20] oh [03:20] /etc/profile [03:21] y0 slackytude [03:21] The-Croupier: haha [03:21] Reticenti: Test before deploying: PATH=$(echo $PATH | sed '-s+:.:+:+ -s+:$++') [03:22] invalid option + [03:22] Dumb-ass me. [03:22] Reticenti: Test before deploying: PATH=$(echo $PATH | sed -e 's+:.:+:+ s+:$++') [03:22] sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unknown option to `s' [03:22] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [03:22] oops [03:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.26.154) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Well that doesn't make any sense... [03:23] The-Croupier: Well, there are a few possibilties for a tab completion fail with your nick, with mine, atm, there's only 3 other choices. :P [03:24] Ah. [03:24] and Alan_Hicks echo $PATH does give me a :.: [03:24] but i dont know where it got set [03:24] ok [03:24] .bash_profile and .bashrc dont have that anywhere [03:24] Reticenti: Test before deploying: PATH=$(echo $PATH | sed -e s+:.:+:+ -e s+:$++) [03:24] returned nothing [03:25] when i do the mysql_install_db [03:25] Reticenti: Well then why on earth are you trying to remove '.' from your PATH if it isn't in there in the first place? [03:25] it tells me to [03:25] /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password' [03:25] /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h GregG password 'new-password' [03:25] Alan_Hicks: because it's there when i do "echo $PATH" [03:25] Reticenti: And it shouldn't "return anything". [03:25] why is the second one necessary? [03:26] Reticenti: Shouldn't be there now that you've run that sedfu. [03:26] oh, i see [03:26] damn it im back where i began [03:26] i attempted to use [03:27] /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation [03:27] AEnima1577: Hold on.... [03:27] and it gave me the ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock/ (2) [03:28] Yes Alan_Hicks ? [03:28] AEnima1577: Why are you even using -h here? [03:28] Reticenti: just so you know though /etc/profile adds . to the path for non root users [03:28] oh [03:28] because it says: [03:28] PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER ! [03:28] To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands: [03:28] /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password' [03:28] Channel flood from AEnima1577 -- kicking [03:28] /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h GregG password 'new-password' [03:28] AEnima1577 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:29] Alan_Hicks: are you on facebook?.. i think i saw you there ;) [03:29] Action: The-Croupier might be wrong of course...:( [03:29] The-Croupier: I am, but I ignore nearly all friendship requests. [03:29] I can garauntee that I will ignore yours. [03:29] The-Croupier: oh yeah, he's a Facebook sensation. [03:29] Alan_Hicks: i am already your friend :p [03:29] hi [03:30] He has the #1 spot for most ignored friend requests. [03:30] The-Croupier: Damnit. [03:30] hi juice [03:30] Alan_Hicks: friend of phrags :p [03:30] hi juice [03:30] Alan_Hicks: lol [03:30] how goes it? [03:30] juice: goes great, you? [03:30] Alan_Hicks: love you too bro..., you know you do have the choice to remove people if you like ;) [03:30] juice: 3:30, drinking beer. You? [03:30] not much thinking about watching some hulu [03:30] great im the only one at work..damn it [03:30] catch up on some series episodes [03:30] The-Croupier: im at work :D [03:31] The-Croupier: I can't be bothered to do it. [03:31] The-Croupier: Well good work, you'll be gone from his list by tomorrow. [03:31] its 09:31 am in Norway :d [03:31] i'm facebook if anyone care www.facebook.com/juicejar [03:31] 2:30 here [03:31] juice: same here, 02:30 [03:31] fire|bird: naahhh i dont think so...idont bother people outsite ##slackware [03:31] ;) [03:31] juice: Are you drinkin'? [03:31] morning [03:31] The-Croupier: lol [03:31] nah no money til friday [03:31] morning tewmten [03:31] i did friday [03:31] juice: pussy [03:31] lol [03:32] lol [03:32] haha [03:32] Alan_Hicks: you mean the cat right? :p [03:32] heh [03:32] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [03:32] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [03:32] Action: fire|bird wonders about if Alan_Hicks had the entire beer he grabbed earlier drank, if that would have been more descriptive. [03:32] I intend to show up for work this morning at 9 a.m., drunk. [03:32] cos if you mean the other one... then i definately love juice [03:33] :o [03:33] fire|bird: Yeah, i've got another one now. [03:33] heh [03:33] what are you sipping on? [03:33] Yuengling Black & Tan. [03:33] Action: The-Croupier tries to find a way to hide his nick from tab completion ... :( no luck so far [03:33] eek i like Yuengling regular [03:33] but no dark [03:33] ThomasLocke: You can't hide from my screwed up tab completion! [03:34] juice: pussy [03:34] ha just did [03:34] ^^ Alan_Hicks ^^ fail ;) [03:34] not a big dark beer fan Guinness stout turned me off [03:34] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521079.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [03:34] ah [03:34] or red stripe [03:34] juice: what are you on bout.... guinness is the best [03:34] Guinness is man chocolate [03:34] The-Croupier: http://www.google.com/searchq=define:irony [03:34] 1 of the 2 [03:34] I prefer Cola :) [03:35] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/W07fK611.html <--blonde joke. [03:35] Alan_Hicks: excuses :p [03:35] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521079.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Client Quit [03:35] juice: Black & Tan is 60% Porter, 40% Premium Beer (pilsner). [03:35] hmm [03:35] i might try [03:35] fire|bird: haha :P [03:35] juice: You should drink it. It'll put hair on your cunny lips. [03:35] haha [03:36] Alan_Hicks: damn that sounds good.. i wish we could get that in greee [03:36] haha [03:36] The-Croupier: greee? [03:36] yep [03:36] s/greee/greece/ [03:36] Ah. [03:36] fire|bird: thanks [03:36] fire|bird: nice joke :) [03:36] kowalczyk: :) [03:37] I wish we could get Yeunling Porter here in GA. Maybe some day. They just recently started (as in since June) selling any Yeungling beer here. [03:37] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-41-12.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:38] juice: The black and tan is a nice smooth beer with a malty chocolate flavor to it, but it's not so thick as a stout. [03:38] Alan_Hicks: well at least you have some ;) [03:39] Well this logo didn't turn out well: http://www.businesspundit.com/mouse-logo-fail/ [03:39] Action: fire|bird waits for the first one to see it. :) [03:40] hehe :P [03:40] Nick change: Guest46143 -> fred [03:40] Action: Alan_Hicks needs tobacco. [03:40] fire|bird: hehe [03:40] Damn store won't be open for another two and a half hours. [03:40] kowalczyk got it. :) [03:40] Alan_Hicks: smoke can kill you :P [03:40] kowalczyk: I don't smoke. [03:40] Alan_Hicks: take a flight to norway. here are the shops open. :P [03:40] kowalczyk: google "Red Man" [03:41] redman.com ?:P [03:41] kowalczyk: I think if that's what they are jamming in the ports, the pc is bound to be broken, along with something else eventually. ;) [03:41] kowalczyk: possibly. [03:41] kowalczyk: You familiar with snuff? [03:42] Alan_Hicks: I know what it is yes. but I have never tried. I dont smoke :) and never have [03:42] kowalczyk: Red Man (and others like it) are like snuff, only more leafy and less grainy. [03:42] aha.. I see [03:42] Instead of putting a pinch in your lip, you put a wad the size of a golfball in your cheek. [03:42] haha [03:43] Alan_Hicks: that should look nice :) [03:43] It's funny, 'cause it's true. [03:43] hehe [03:43] kowalczyk: You familiar with The Linux Link Tech Show? [03:43] daedra (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Alan_Hicks: ?! [03:43] I heard of the podcast yes [03:44] Nick change: daedra -> Guest35008 [03:44] have only listened to one show though. the one with pat volkerding.. I have listened a lot to linuxreality then [03:44] Go back to their episode on the South East Linux Fest, and you will hear them talking about me and my amazing tobacco habit. [03:44] ok :d hehe [03:44] Sometime in June/July. [03:44] June 29th sound familiar. [03:46] Alan_Hicks: you have a link? [03:46] The-Croupier: http://www.jfgi.com [03:47] Alan_Hicks: lol ;) thanks ;) [03:47] The-Croupier: Should be easy to find on their site though. Go to late June and see which one is about the SELF that just happened. [03:49] my bad habit is kebab :D [03:49] mmmmm SELF, good party. [03:49] especially on the www.jfgi.com ;) [03:49] kebab? [03:50] oh yes. kebab :) [03:50] XGizzmo: Yes it was. What on earth are you doin' still up? [03:50] Like Shis-kebab? [03:50] Can't sleep [03:50] Alan_Hicks: yes. like that. Only I like kebab with pommes frites and hot sauce. h00h:D or in a "bread" like stuff [03:51] XGizzmo: I hate when that happens. At 2:00 this morning, I decided that since I couldn't sleep, I'd just get drunk and code. [03:51] And hang out on IRC of course. I mean, that's mandatory, especially if you're drunk. [03:52] yes, yes it is. [03:52] Alan_Hicks: haha.. a friend of me said the same.. and the drunker he got, the better he got in slackware. haha:d more drunk = more haxx0r :D [03:52] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:52] kowalczyk: I'm going to tell you something that is the gospel truth. [03:52] ok? [03:53] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-181.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:53] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [03:53] At SELF 2009, the Slackware users were the last people out of the bar. They literally escorted us out the door, shoved free beer in our hands to get us to leave, and locked the door behind us. [03:53] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [03:53] is anyone getting hal notifications in xfce? the xfce notifyd seems to work but i get no message when unmounting a stick or something [03:53] hehe:D nice [03:53] must be a slackware thing [03:54] I dont drink beer. I dont fit as a slackware user?:P [03:54] kowalczyk: No, you don't. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to use Debian now. [03:54] cteg: Sorry man, I don't know shit about HAL. [03:54] haha, wow: http://zuzutop.com/2009/11/the-mister-pacman-car/ [03:54] Action: wollw doesn't drink any kind of alcohol :/ [03:55] Alan_Hicks: haha :P I have used debian for years. and I felt it was time to move on.. I like slackware. its tough and I'm learning much :) [03:55] :) [03:55] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.2.124) joined ##slackware. [03:55] nice fire|bird :) [03:55] me neither. until now, i avoided hal and dbus like the devil [03:55] kowalczyk: Good. Then you must learn also how to drink beer. [03:55] Alan_Hicks: haha.. I'll stick to cola and redbull :) [03:55] Well, time to get going. Later guys. Take care. [03:55] i hate a zillion demons for bullshit. now, after 7 years of fluxbox, i wanted some xfce [03:56] cteg: You know more than me. It never crossed my mind to think that HAL would send a message on USB device removal. [03:56] fire|bird: Wimp! [03:56] redbull and vodka them you can use arch [03:56] XGizzmo: haha :P [03:56] XGizzmo: HAHAHA. It was orange vodka, and I guess I'm qualified to use arch. [03:56] is slack + rum + coke compatible? [03:56] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:56] Alan_Hicks: hehe 02:55, I have to get some sleep. [03:56] I dont use hal. I like to mount my usb sticks and harddrives manually :) [03:56] Action: Alan_Hicks *POUNDED* that glass of orange vodka and red bull. [03:57] fire|bird: pussy [03:57] fire|bird: pussy :P [03:57] fire|bird: Later [wo]man. [03:57] haha [03:57] fire|bird: pwned :P [03:57] i still mount them manually. just wanted to see what a "desktop enviroment" does [03:57] Alan_Hicks: see ya drunken hillbilly. [03:57] Action: fire|bird runs [03:57] i'm not convinced [03:58] TheTrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] :P [03:58] XGizzmo: Were you there when Dave Yates was telling us about Jeremy and his vodka? [03:58] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:58] cteg: I dont like desktop environment either:d I like blackbox :) and twm :) [03:58] kowalczyk: what can I say, I'm no match for a drunk Alan_Hicks. :P [03:58] TheTrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:58] Alan_Hicks: I don't think so. [03:58] fire|bird: s/drunk // [03:58] hehe [03:58] yeah but you know, after those long fluxbox years i'm a bit bored. but still its the fastest thing for me to work [03:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:59] XGizzmo: This was right after me and Robby had gone to the bathroom, 'cause... I mean... shit! How much did we drink that night?! Anyhow.... [03:59] someone earlier was quizzing me on why i use fluxbox instead of kde [03:59] Alan_Hicks: when you mentioned david yates. are you the one with the hat and the beer in the hand on the picture on facebook?:) [03:59] Action: The-Croupier loves it when there are drunk people in the channel ;) [03:59] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-30-150.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:59] feels like a party ;) [03:59] kde? holy moses. pv should get rid of that, more space on the dvd [03:59] We came back and Jeremy had been talking about how much he could drink, and Dave came along as said, "You should have seem him swaying when you guys were gone. He can't hold the candle." [03:59] kowalczyk: Yes! [03:59] Alan_Hicks: nice :) hehe [04:00] love the hat :) [04:00] kowalczyk: Well, was it a brown hat? [04:00] Or black? [04:00] I think the only reason i bothered to give was that kde makes my fan spin [04:00] more beige [04:00] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:00] http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1850749291&ref=search&sid=589176139.1298433205..1 [04:00] Brown then. It's faded. That's me. [04:00] ok :P hehe:D nice:) [04:00] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [04:00] I saw dave yates on your friend list. and y ou mentioned him. had to ask :D [04:01] The other guy there was taller and had a black hat. He goes by the name cobra2 IIRC. [04:01] yup [04:01] ok [04:01] moonshine customs shirt [04:01] alienBOB is on facebook as well I see [04:02] XGizzmo: Right. "We blow our customers." [04:02] :) [04:02] We had the best discussion about how to make moonshine for consumption. I think we're gonna have to do a birds of the feather session next time. [04:02] "See, ya gotta have good quality copper, no tin..." [04:04] trall [04:04] trall? [04:05] hehe.. just a word im saying too much.. dont know why. when I have nothing to say or if i'm bored :) [04:05] AFK. I gotta go outside, where it's rainin', and piss. [04:05] Alan_Hicks: have fun [04:06] Action: Alan_Hicks returns. [04:10] that was quick [04:10] picked up the paper?:P [04:11] No, just got rained on and pissed in the yard. [04:11] sigh.. I dont like students or teacher at this school.. they ask too much dumb questions :) [04:11] kowalczyk: Such as? [04:12] Alan_Hicks: how to turn on their computer for example. how to get sound on their pc.. they say that their pc cant be turned on. when the power cable isnt even plugged. and that they cant get sound on the speekers when the cable is beside the pc:D hehehe [04:13] kowalczyk: You should do what I did then. [04:14] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Alan_Hicks: what was that? [04:14] Drop out of school. [04:15] Action: wollw did that a few years ago [04:15] Alan_Hicks: haha. I work here... [04:15] Action: wollw is going back now [04:15] in IT [04:15] kowalczyk: Ah. I feel very sorry for you then. [04:15] I need another beer. [04:15] Alan_Hicks: hehe.. why? hehe [04:16] kowalczyk: Stuck in academia perpetually. [04:16] jva (n=jva@78.155.83.7) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:16] http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10052/index.html [04:16] have anyone used those WAP's? [04:16] you just reminded me of this poem: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/111633 [04:16] Alan_Hicks: only until august next year. [04:18] wollw: Nice! [04:18] hmm. how can I get ssh-keygen to use for example 4096 bits? can I define that somewhere? [04:18] yeah, it wrote it when it was quitting working as a professor at some school [04:19] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:19] kowalczyk: RTFM! man ssh-keygen. Look at -b. [04:19] I am reading. or at google :D [04:20] Action: Alan_Hicks is drinking his 6th beer of the hour now. [04:20] h0h0... that was missing a few things to read that :D [04:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Connection timed out [04:21] thanks Alan_Hicks :) [04:22] Drunkfu... I has it. [04:22] [04:22] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [04:22] ok? [04:22] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:23] anyone else have problems with record me desktoop putting out really low fs videos even whn you set the fps to liek 60 or 70? [04:23] toastytoast: What is "really low"? [04:24] like unwtchble [04:24] 10 fps? [04:24] unwatchble* [04:24] try like maybe 3? [04:24] Damn. [04:24] What VGA card? [04:25] ati radeon hd4650 [04:25] toastytoast: binary blob drivers? [04:26] yeah radeon hd doesn't have 3d excel for my card yet [04:26] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-96-241-216-141.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] Wish I could help ya, but I got no clue. [04:26] i mena i can play nexuiz on maxed graphics and still get 30-60 fps [04:27] on high with a few tweaks i get over 100fps [04:27] toastytoast: Is it only a single application that's giving shitty FPS? [04:27] yeah sjtu recordmydesktop [04:27] sjtui recordmydesktop? [04:27] jsut* [04:27] just* [04:27] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-30-150.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:27] Ah. WTF is recordmydesktop? [04:28] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:28] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php [04:28] let's you take a movie of what you're doing on your desktop - like a remote desktop only the remote is the camera [04:29] and after it records and encodes the video when i play it it is unwatchble [04:29] sitwon (n=adam@pool-96-241-216-141.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:29] toastytoast: I don't know. Seems to be something to take up with them folks. [04:29] well i was sjut curios if anyone else ahd had problems with on here [04:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Guys, I think I'm gonna pussy out and go to sleep. I think I've had enough beers now. [04:30] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] night [04:30] Alan_Hicks: good night:) have fun at work :) [04:31] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [04:31] toastytoast: fwiw i just tested recordmydesktop and it works fine with my nvidia card [04:33] :( [04:33] did you pass anyspecial flags when compiling? [04:33] nope [04:33] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [04:33] just ./configure; make; cd src; recordmydesktop [04:34] i think it worked when i used the slackbuild in 12.2 [04:34] but there isn't a slackbuild for 13 yet [04:34] what groups are your account in? [04:35] users and plugdevs [04:35] maybe adding video? [04:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:39] no didn't work [04:39] :( [04:39] :( [04:40] i'll mess with ti some mroe and see what i can do [04:41] weebuttons (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:43] vlc does give this error when i play the video [0x8297010] main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called [04:43] altho i ahve no idea what that means [04:44] weebuttons (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [04:45] yeah me too [04:46] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.145.64) joined ##slackware. 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[05:02] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:04] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.9.162) joined ##slackware. [05:04] I hate the KDE version in Slackware 13. [05:04] Well dont use it. [05:04] frullet, can I use the 3.x version to work in Slackware 13? [05:05] lxde deos :) [05:05] how? [05:05] and yeah i beleive some people ahve installed the 3.x version [05:05] what is the procedure of doing that? in a summary? [05:06] lxde or isntalling kde 3.x ? [05:06] installing 3.x [05:06] I mean, I'll have to remove the version 4 first, right? [05:07] prolly [05:07] if not then it would certanly save space [05:07] altho i prefer lxde to kde for a desktop enviro [05:08] never heard of it... let me google it [05:08] before, I thought lxde was the nick of some guy who uses version 3.x [05:09] oh lol [05:09] :) [05:09] you can get all the packages need to isntall lxde form the alien repo [05:10] you'll also need openbox and pcmanfm [05:10] but tis pretty nice and much faster than kde [05:10] sounds great :) ... [05:11] alreadygone: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ [05:11] thanks a lot BP{k} .... [05:12] alreadygone: do read the README and notice it's otherwise unsupprted. :) [05:12] ok BP{k}... it's worth trying. [05:12] KDE 4 is raising my blood pressure [05:14] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [05:14] the reason I preferred KDE over Gnome was the amount of control it gave to tweak things... [05:15] now, that's not the case with KDE 4, plus it's heavy [05:15] i miss my old control panel [05:20] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Someone tell my CEO you cant use a batch script in windows to "copy" a file to a URL [05:25] Zordrak: Sorry, I lended my clue-by-four out last night ;) [05:25] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [05:26] every dawn problem he ever has he wants to solve with a windows batch script [05:26] morning :) [05:26] (he used to be an engineer) [05:26] Zordrak: wput! [05:26] ftp? [05:26] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vvkkobmnchkkpybb) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:26] in *this* case its an RPC calendar thing [05:28] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-134-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[05:42] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-72.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:42] Zordrak: ^^ [05:43] http://undacuvabrutha.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/still-not-happy-with-the-speed-of-your-boot-in-9-10/ <-- people must believe there is a magic button/incantation to speed everything up >< [05:43] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.9.162) joined ##slackware. [05:43] wait, there isn't? [05:44] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [05:44] toastytoast, installed LXDE, using it currently. It's great. thanks a lot... :) [05:44] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [05:45] uva (i=bno@118-160-164-29.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Axius (n=ojof@92.84.2.124) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-226-217.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] BP{k}: well, there's one, it's called slackware, but it's not for ubuntu :P [05:50] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [05:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-190.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Action: Zordrak just noticed a google searh someone did to reach his blog... : slack.build 64 bit [05:53] please god say theyre not coming in here [05:56] hi, I'm an ubuntu user and heard there was a magic switch to make my computer faster, the sky blue and the world a happier place to live in, is it true? where can I get it? do you have a crack for it? [05:56] :) [05:57] yeah it's called the off button [05:57] humour fail [05:57] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.5.69) joined ##slackware. [05:57] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.5.69) left irc: Client Quit [05:59] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:00] v_v (n=cg@112.64.50.114) joined ##slackware. [06:01] hello. how to set the screen resolution to be 1280x800 when booting, the vga=xxx seems has no options of this resolution [06:01] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.9.162) left irc: Client Quit [06:01] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [06:02] google it.. the information is out there. keywords: linux video mode framebuffer [06:06] v_v: xxx being? [06:08] v_v: add xrandr entry to .xinitrc file [06:09] Camarade_Tux: xxx supports the 4:3 resolutions. no 16:9, when compiling the kernel if the extra resolutions are no set [06:09] rogersman: i mean the resolution before X startx [06:10] v_v: lilo, isnt it? [06:10] rogersman: yes [06:10] ffs.. al/l he wants is the kernel video mode number [06:10] its on google [06:11] cant we just give that response to every single question? not very helpful [06:11] v_v: do you spend a lot of time outside of X? the reason I ask is that display will get pretty slow when you change the resolution [06:11] Zordrak: i searched a lot . maybe i just didn't fill the blank with right words in google [06:11] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Camarade_Tux: no. i just want to know how [06:12] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:12] there should be a way to know how many modes the kernel supports, i just don't know where to find it [06:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers [06:14] its gonna be 864 or 865 [06:14] Camarade_Tux: thank you. but you can see. they are all 4:3. [06:14] Camarade_Tux: sorry. not all [06:14] *Notes*= [06:14] actually no ;-) [06:14] I can't remember how I made mine 1280x800 [06:15] as Zordrak pointed out, there is the "notes" part, but I'm a bit doubtful [06:16] bbl. try it now [06:16] v_v (n=cg@112.64.50.114) left irc: "leaving" [06:16] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-71-199-13-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Good grief" [06:17] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC302D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:17] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:20] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:20] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:21] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-226-217.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:21] v_v (n=cg@112.64.50.114) joined ##slackware. [06:21] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:22] i typed scan when it tells me that the num which brings 1280x800 is invalid. the result of the scan shows it's not supported [06:23] Axius (n=fd@92.84.5.69) joined ##slackware. [06:24] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.2.208) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:24] v_v: scan is useless [06:24] v_v: you can use vbetest or hwinfo to test which modes are supported by your card [06:24] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.2.208) joined ##slackware. [06:24] just set 864 in lilo.. run lilo.. reboot [06:25] 864? [06:25] 8 6 4 [06:25] the page says 865 ==> 1280x800 24bit [06:25] ok [06:26] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:26] try it again and hwinfo or vbetest [06:26] willca_ (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:26] v_v (n=cg@112.64.50.114) left irc: Client Quit [06:27] I guess when he comes back he will state that both commands do not exist on his system. *sigh* [06:27] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-24-30.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:29] v_v (n=cg@112.64.50.114) joined ##slackware. [06:30] not supported [06:30] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:30] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.82) left irc: "I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel." [06:30] jill (i=1000@95.58.167.32) left irc: "Leaving." [06:31] jill (i=1000@95.58.167.32) joined ##slackware. [06:31] p0w7r1x (n=powtrix@189-69-23-4.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:40] directory. it's a directory not a folder :) [06:40] but the users in slackware have no permission on that anyway. hmm [06:40] and on a directory you'd need 77x not 76x [06:41] because you're not giving them execute bit on a dir, which would allow them to descend into it [06:41] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [06:41] ok.. so I have to have 774 then,. ok. or just 770 [06:42] 770, 774 makes no sense [06:42] I just want the owner and group to be able to read and write and execute.. [06:43] kowalczyk: why dont you try man chmod? [06:43] then why would you be doing 774? [06:43] jill (i=1000@95.58.167.32) left irc: "Leaving." [06:43] it might help alot [06:43] you dont even need the numbers sometimes ;) [06:44] guax (n=guaxinim@201.47.74.147) joined ##slackware. [06:46] ananke: I wont be doing 774. I did 770. so the others dont have access [06:47] kowalczyk: do you have that much of really important data? [06:47] The-Croupier: neh :d this is just for learning anyway:d hehehe :D [06:47] but why not :d hehe [06:47] cos sometimes changing permissions will make some software go wierd [06:48] ok... [06:48] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-24-30.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:48] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-153.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:48] Nick change: p0w7r1x -> powtrix [06:48] unless you know what you do, and keep track of you have done... [06:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.26.154) joined ##slackware. [06:48] I see. but its only in a backup directory I have. so shouldnt cause much troubles... [06:49] someone used to say: if you know where you have been, you know where you will be...or something like that ;) [06:49] hehe :D [06:49] we've forced our development groups to document everything. they're thankful for it now [06:50] hehe.. yes documentation is important :) [06:53] v_v: are you typing 864 into the prompt at boot ar are you putting it in the kernel params in lilo? [06:54] Zordrak: lilo [06:54] ok.. did you try 865? [06:54] Zordrak: yes [06:55] and neither worked [06:55] yes [06:55] no [06:55] ... [06:55] neither worked [06:55] ;~) [06:55] and the card definitely supports 1280x800? [06:56] Zordrak: it support when i startx [06:57] I have a txt file with web links.how to make the web links active with perl? [06:58] I want to make them html links. [06:58] Axius: you want to make the content of txt file shown in the page. or just a link to open the txt file [07:00] v_v: I want to make a html file. [07:00] sfv (n=wbb@adsl38-189.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:00] is there a way to close an ssh connection if there is a say 3secs of inactivity with iptables? [07:00] v_v, vga = 0x361 [07:00] ask in more channels at the same time. i don't think you did [07:01] v_v, try it. that's what i use. [07:01] Nick change: caio -> Guest63614 [07:01] slava_dp: thank you. i'll try it later. i have restart my computer many times. [07:02] :) [07:03] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.187.10) joined ##slackware. [07:03] hi there :) [07:03] echo $((16#361)) [07:03] it's just 865 [07:04] i was just gonna say that [07:04] im just looking for the latest hwinfo source [07:04] well. works for me. and 865 did not. [07:05] v_v: x and framebuffer are two different things. The framebuffer can only work with modes that are defined in the bios of the graphics card. If it's not listed, bad luck [07:05] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [07:05] Zordrak: want a SlackBuild? ;) [07:05] hence hwinfo --framebuffer [07:06] pprkut: i was just gonna make one.. so um.. yespls :) [07:06] on github :) [07:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-84-66.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [07:06] pprkut: ;-( [07:06] pprkut: there's this place called SlackBuilds.Org.. dont know if you've heard of it... ;) [07:07] Zordrak: ya ya, lack of time :P [07:07] where am i lookingZ [07:07] slakmagi1 (n=j@74.242.254.49) joined ##slackware. [07:07] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:07] http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master/good/hwinfo/ [07:08] needs libx86emu from the same place [07:08] i have another problem. my laptop doesn't sound. but if i put a earphone, i can hear from the earphone. [07:08] ty [07:08] v_v: turn on the speakers [07:08] v_v: head to the link pprkut just pasted [07:08] Zordrak: ok [07:09] think i might just clone the lot [07:09] hehe [07:09] if i can work out how... i still need to spend some time learning git [07:11] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:11] yeah screw it.. im pulling the whole lot.. alpha & beta too [07:12] although i find it humerous that your slackbuilds-beta has a -beta section [07:12] Action: init[1] waves to slackers p/ [07:12] slackbuilds-beta-alpha, slackbuilds-beta-beta :) [07:12] Zordrak: yeah, I tend to use strange naming schemes ;) [07:15] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:16] pprkut: did you make the tarballs out of srpms? [07:16] nope, git tags [07:17] orite.. didnt know suse source repos were that open [07:17] it took some searching :) [07:17] heh [07:18] Action: pprkut is off to dinner. bbiab [07:19] l8pr [07:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:22] hello all [07:23] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: "later." [07:23] there;s some bug in the xfce clock tooltip code [07:24] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:24] wow@openerp [07:25] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:26] pprkut: the speakers ? how [07:26] pprkut: lol.. after all that.. hwinfo --framebuffer doesnt produce any output on this box [07:26] Zordrak: lol [07:27] v_v: wouldnt hurt to try it.. it might work for you [07:27] Zordrak: yes [07:27] i had once tried hwinfo on my laptop. the only thing it said was the laptop band and model. havent tried using it again. it doesnt seem to do anything other apps do already anyway [07:27] s/band/brand [07:28] sahk0: is there something else you know of that lists all capable framebuffer modes? [07:30] hmm [07:30] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:31] not atm, but i am pretty sure there is [07:32] hwinfo does give a lot of info on my box.. just not fb [07:32] cat /etc/fb.modes ? [07:33] before I go off on an escapade of googling, searching for hours, drinking to escape the harsh reality, and then months of counseling followed by rehab and AA, all the while searching for an answer to inevitably find that it was right under my nose somehow, is there any reason offhand why my keyboard would not respond booting up from a freshly built kernel? :D [07:33] If you are using the vesa framebuffer driver, you can check the linux kernel documentation... Documentat/fb/vesafb.txt lists modes and kernel mode numbers. [07:33] dartmouth: in X or fb? [07:33] Zordrak, fb [07:33] USB or PS2? [07:34] PS2 [07:34] *shrug* sorry [07:34] USB Mouse works fine. [07:34] Just no keyboard. [07:34] Lights are on. [07:34] But they don't turn off. lol. [07:34] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:34] use the clapper [07:35] the clapper? I thought they started prescribing antibiotics for that now? 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[07:44] petslack (n=petslack@201-42-216-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:44] yup [07:44] hmm, I get no output as normal user, but it works fine as root [07:46] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("i came out with less clue than I came in with. please eject the ubuntards before I come back."). [07:47] ggy_china (n=ggy@122.139.20.115) joined ##slackware. [07:47] So let's all hope he does not come back [07:51] ? [07:52] anyone using libisofs here? [07:53] (basically, I need to remove a file from an uncooperative windows iso which I don't know how to create again [needs to be bootable]) [07:54] Camarade_Tux: you mean Windows install ISO ? [07:54] Camarade_Tux: make a precisie scratch ;) [07:54] Camarade_Tux: if so you can use 'nlite' ;) [07:54] sounds illegal [07:54] mancha: nope [07:54] pprkut: hehe ;p [07:55] it does sound illegal can't deny that [07:55] init[1]: I'm on linux, I don't feel like rebooting on windows and doing the change there >< [07:55] hiptobecubic (i=46eedb7b@gateway/web/freenode/x-qxsokpjjlgrcqfft) joined ##slackware. [07:55] hm,don't you have VM with windows ? [07:55] mancha: I want to remove all the installation files and just keep the boot part :D [07:56] init[1]: I do but it isn't connected to the internet (it's a setup that is a bit annoying right now) [07:56] Camarade_Tux: nlite would do your job,its kinda Windows Stripper :P [07:56] or, is anyone using windows inside kvm? especially win* 64? [07:57] who makes hwinfo? [07:57] init[1]: well'd it'd be 7lite here ;) [07:57] Laptop is having some issue with unmounting. During shutdown it hangs indefinitely (left it on all night to check) at 'unmount local filesystems'. It also fails to suspend to ram `pm-suspend`. It goes almost all the way down, then wakes back up again, regardless of user input. [07:57] init[1]: but I want to remove *everything*, I just want to see if it can boot [07:57] mancha: if you mean make is in develop, it would be novell/opensuse [07:58] hiptobecubic: new laptop and just installed slackware? old laptop and recent issue? [07:58] old laptop and recent issue [07:58] pprkut, yep meant that. so if opensuse is the best we can do an srpm? do you have a url perchance? [07:58] url of what, source tarball? [07:58] yar [07:59] it's currently stuck at unmount local filesystems. i'm about to sysrq+s u b [07:59] mancha: http://www.liwjatan.at/files/src/hwinfo/hwinfo-16.5.tar.xz , but it's a bit dated [07:59] haven't come to create more recent tarballs [07:59] is that an official url? (as in an opensuse site)? [07:59] no, my server [08:00] opensuse just provides a git repo [08:00] the tarball is from the respective git tag [08:00] ok, but aside from git clones i presume you can get srpms from them? [08:01] hiptobecubic: do you know if there are filesystems mounted beside the one on /? and which FS? [08:01] mancha: I assume you will find the most recent one in opensuses repos, yes [08:01] ok, thanks. will take a look. [08:02] Camarade_Tux: just the usual proc, sysfs, and usb [08:02] Camarade_Tux: there was a mounted cd in the drive also. [08:03] tried without that? I had troubles with damaged CDs [08:03] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [08:04] Well i know the cd isn't damaged, but i just got it to boot/shutdown properly. i'll try mounting the cd and shutting down [08:05] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30DBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Unmounting remote filesystems takes longer than it should, considering the network is down and there are no remote filesystems mounted [08:07] I think there's a sync+sleep somewhere near that [08:07] might be what you see [08:07] oh perhaps [08:10] which package zenmap in ?? [08:10] nmap [08:11] why it call zenmap ? [08:11] why not [08:12] because zenmap sounds very hip and kewl [08:12] it's starts with 'z', so it's super [08:13] or zuper [08:13] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.2.208) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:13] and anyone using xorriso? [08:13] http://www.explosm.net/comics/1829/ [08:14] gapan (n=gapan@adsl190-89.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:14] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.43.207) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Mmm no auth.log in Slackware? [08:15] Zosma, nope [08:15] Ok, then I'm not freaking out :-P [08:16] Couldn't recall whether it's ever been there. [08:16] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] see phreaking out would have been more hip and kewl [08:16] More than what? [08:16] Than not freaking out? [08:17] :-) just joking [08:17] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.231) joined ##slackware. [08:17] freak ?? [08:18] Slackware GNU/Freax :p [08:19] :( [08:19]  [08:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] http://freax.org/ :D [08:20] bah, I used make -j3 on my quad-core >< [08:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [08:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Camarade_Tux: oh boohoo [08:38] moooo [08:38] hiptobecubic: moo, I'm too used to my laptop! [08:40] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-31.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:40] So what can I do about this unmounting/suspend problem? [08:41] only happens when there is a CD ? [08:41] wine [08:41] Camarade_Tux: no, i don't think it's related to the cd. [08:41] I can't make it reliably happen yet [08:43] I need wine for slackware13.0 anyone with a link to a stable version ? [08:44] slack64? [08:44] if not: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/wine/ [08:45] (see the "howto" link at the top) [08:45] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:46] jude1: wine is a slow build... i think someone has a package already. rworkman or alienBOB perhaps? [08:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.26.154) left irc: "Leaving" [08:49] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) joined ##slackware. [08:49] pupit1 (n=pupit@79.101.219.231) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Thanks Camarade_Tux [08:51] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.211) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:51] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/wine/pkg/13.0/ [08:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:52] there you go [08:52] ggy_china (n=ggy@122.139.20.115) left irc: "‚»" [08:53] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.214.15) left irc: "armuçá" [08:53] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:53] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-29-255.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:54] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.129.205) joined ##slackware. [08:55] I performed a full install so as I understand it, my system already contains the generic-smp kernel is installed on my system. As I'm wanting to use it (current running the huge-smp), is it simply a matter of running mkinitrd with the correct parameters then modifying lilo.conf? [08:56] shit my grammar is awful on that sentence [08:57] The_Seeker, yep. don't forget to run lilo. [08:57] sbin/lilo? [08:57] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] The_Seeker, however, i'd recommend building a custom kernel. it's very easy. [08:57] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ > The_Seeker [08:57] just "lilo" will do. [08:58] slava_dp: I plan on doing that eventually, want to switch to the generic one first [08:58] The_Seeker, just read the blog post..... [08:58] adamk (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:58] slava_dp: thanks for the link - bookmarked [09:08] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [09:08] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-30-150.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:08] Skeptic (n=Skeptic@77.81.32.140) joined ##slackware. [09:09] hello, for how long is a slackware release supported? [09:10] Skeptic, forever [09:10] :)) [09:10] lol [09:10] slava_dp: that's not true, and you know it [09:10] are you serious? [09:11] ananke, you are free to reply too :) [09:11] Skeptic: there is no official policy [09:11] ananke, so it's mostly a little while after the next release? [09:11] Skeptic, but updates for releases as old as 2002 are still provided. [09:12] a, ok [09:12] Skeptic: patrick has been gracious to release security fixes for 8.1, which is quite ancient. that's as far back as he goes, and he's been thinking of dropping it for some time [09:12] Skeptic: it depends by Pat, if he wants to keep that release supported that release will be supported 'til he'll decide not to support it anymore [09:12] Skeptic: now, it's important to mention: those are security fixes, not bug fixes. [09:12] ok [09:12] ananke: yup :) [09:12] thanks guys [09:12] and they're not backported fixes, they're usually involve upgrading to newer releases of software [09:14] Skeptic (n=Skeptic@77.81.32.140) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:15] ÿ [09:17] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-200-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:20] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:20] Action: The-Croupier loves slackware for more reasons everyday ;) [09:21] Hi if i change graphic card from an older nvidia to a newer one do i need to uninstall the driver first ? [09:21] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [09:21] braintix: no [09:21] oki ty mako-sama [09:21] Action: hitest also loves Slackware....and so do my 5 PCs running it:) [09:21] braintix: if the driver supports the card, then there is no reason to change it [09:21] and my systems as well [09:21] Action: Zordrak loves slackware, HATES corosync. [09:22] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:22] Zordrak, still struggling? [09:22] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:23] what would you guys run apart from slackware? what is the most business like linux around? and the most security-business like linux around? [09:23] ill redhat [09:23] *say [09:23] always wondered...wanted to go around some companies and see if they even run linux ...and do a survey....im very curious [09:23] The-Croupier: it depends on the scale of operation. [09:23] The only other distro I would consider atm is freebsd [09:23] I know of at least 3 that run linux [09:23] ananke: what do you mean? [09:23] hitest, not a distro :) [09:23] The-Croupier: we *do* run SuSE and RHEL.. each because it is a forced choice [09:23] I do like Slackware, but I like openSUSE as well [09:24] The-Croupier: what makes sense for 1-10 machines, may not make sense for 10-100, and certainly not for 100+ [09:24] but if i *HAD* to use one of them it would be SUSE [09:24] ananke: i see... well in both, what would that be? [09:24] slava_dp: okay. other OS then:) there is no other distro that I trust as much as Slackware [09:24] any scale..if you can separate them as well, it would be more then informative [09:25] The-Croupier: in both what? i listed three things :) [09:25] ananke: all of them separately... what would make sense for 1-10 and then 10-100 and then for 100+ [09:25] The-Croupier: we use primarily opensuse and sles [09:25] sles? [09:25] sled [09:25] The-Croupier: suse linux enterprise server [09:25] suse linux enterprise server [09:26] ah [09:26] ty [09:27] i see...;) [09:27] ananke: so what would make sense for every category? [09:27] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:27] The-Croupier: here's the deal. once you start getting a high number of servers per sysadmin ratio, you need to find tools that allow you to make your job easier and more efficient. so distributions that have those tools are often the preferred choice. ones that have mechanisms for automatic deployment, easy upgrade path, etc. longer lifetime is also important. [09:27] i see [09:28] The-Croupier: we found that opensuse fits fairly well in most categories. although for production we tend to use a lot of sles [09:28] anyone use rhel or centos? [09:28] ananke: how much is lifetime for opensuse? [09:28] i am asking because my fellow windows-admin here wants to install some windows server with active-directory and such things... [09:28] i dont think ive ever heard of that mostly ubuntu & fedora [09:28] which is very low [09:29] sahk0: 18 months, but that's going to be shorten in this release. the hope is that opensuse community will be able to do opensuse LTS [09:29] yeah 18 months is very low [09:29] The-Croupier: active directory is a very valid choice for a lot of things [09:29] ananke: i see.. so opensuse would be a good choice for pretty much everything... [09:29] sahk0: depends on the perspective. it's very low to be considered enterprise, at the same time it's much longer than ubuntu and fedora [09:29] how about security...? do the same rules apply? (depends how good you secure it and the weakest link) [09:30] The-Croupier: security is a process, not a checkbox [09:30] there are countless of things that make up 'security' [09:30] ananke: fedora has 18 months too. at least last i checked. ubuntu too IIRC [09:30] ananke: agreed [09:31] but ubuntu has LTS releases [09:31] sahk0: i'm almost positive they don't. lemme verify. [09:31] sahk0: indeed, ubuntu has LTS, but it's only a core set of packages [09:31] ubuntu has lts [09:31] it's not the entire distro [09:31] "Fedora has a comparatively short life cycle: version X is maintained until one month after version X+2 is released. With 6 months between releases, the maintenance period is about 13 months for each version.[7" [09:32] for fedora i am almost certain. with the 3rd release the N-3 becomes deprecated. its been like this from the start [09:32] hmm. i guess they changed that [09:32] yeah. they got shorter [09:32] it's not; for example, F10 is about to be EOL'd as F12 releases [09:32] ananke: thank you for all that information ;) [09:33] The-Croupier: i hope you're not asking us to convince you to run linux instead of windows, when active directory is the goal [09:34] ananke: i dont need convicing on that ;) [09:34] ive been running slackware for as long as i can remember [09:34] The-Croupier: that's insane. this isn't about linux versus windows, it's about active directory support [09:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] what has active directory got to do with anything... i asked something completely different [09:35] i just mentioned that [09:35] 09:28 The-Croupier> i am asking because my fellow windows-admin here wants to install some windows server with active-directory and such things... [09:36] that's as close as you got to telling us why you want to know our opinion [09:36] just use samba4 [09:36] ananke: yep... he is installing that...i asked what happens in the real world ;) ( my boss doesnt let me run my slackware laptop) do you think he will allow the full company on linux??? ;) [09:37] kernel config needs vim bindings [09:37] hiptobecubic: thats one of the advantages of the Slackware installer people tend to forget. They just bitch about it being ncurses [09:37] The-Croupier: in the real world usually a problem is articulated first, then a solution is constructed to address that problem. what you're doing is just the opposite: you have no problem, but you want to know what would solve it [09:38] ananke: nope, that was just for me... my bad if it came accross wrong... i cannot install anything that has to do with linux at work ;) [09:38] sahk0: ? does it have vim bindings? i didn't notice [09:38] ananke: what is wrong with being ahead of the game? [09:38] The-Croupier: my ITadmin is the same, he doesn't like linux [09:38] hiptobecubic: of course it does:) [09:38] now i know that if that problem arises...i know what to do ;) [09:38] hjkl [09:39] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-154.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] hitest: well, i dont care if this guy likes linux or not..but i would appreciate it, if i could use my own, ( i can configure, maintain,...etc myself anyway) [09:40] exactly [09:40] i am part of the it anyway, [09:40] The-Croupier: because you lose sight of what the problem is [09:40] i fix other peoples pcs...does he think i cannot fix mine?! [09:40] ananke: what do you mean? [09:40] The-Croupier: you focus on trying to fit the problem into what you perceive is the solution [09:41] ananke: still not getting it :( [09:41] The-Croupier: if he doesn't you to use linux you won't do it... unless you want to be fired ^^ though, I don't see the problem either [09:41] I've just ran the mkinitrd command with the correct parameters, updated lilo.conf, ran lilo, rebooted into the generic-smp kernel but it stops soon in saying there's no kernel modules for 2.6.29 [09:42] *doesn't want you [09:42] jude1 (n=jude@mail.kenfreight.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:42] The_Seeker, can you pastebin a few items? [09:42] sure [09:42] here's the mkinitrd command I ran - mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6 -m mbcache:jbd:ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/sda1 [09:42] maybe "ls /boot", "ls /lib/modules/", "cat /etc/lilo.conf" :) [09:43] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-43-104.ip100.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:44] metrofox:a) i dont want to be using windows, b) i feel more secure with linux c) i feel like i can find things a lot quicker d) i can use shortcuts and bash scripts, and commands to find my things alot quicker [09:44] http://pastebin.com/m587e1c44 [09:44] there are alot more reasons... but i would get kicked for flood ;) [09:44] if you're comfortable with slackware, why change? [09:44] The-Croupier: you don't have to tell it to me, but your boss [09:45] thrice`: thats what im saying...i am not allowed slackware at work :( [09:45] The_Seeker, ok, and your lilo.conf ? [09:45] The-Croupier: if I was your boss all company was under Linux, for sure [09:45] http://pastebin.com/m4f3dc744 [09:45] metrofox: well, i tried..but the win-admin has the upper hand ;) [09:45] The-Croupier: aren't you both win-admins? [09:45] metrofox: please come and be the boss i dont care [09:46] http://pastebin.com/m16eb2743 [09:46] what do you want to use linux for? [09:46] The-Croupier: unless you are just an underling worker [09:46] ananke: fun, it looks like [09:46] hiptobecubic: he is older in the company...been here 5years before me :( [09:46] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.13.48) joined ##slackware. [09:46] The_Seeker, ok, I think I see the problem :) [09:46] ananke: read above ^^ [09:46] The-Croupier: better get used to the idea of seniority [09:46] change your command to: [09:47] The-Croupier: no, you didn't tell me what you want to use it _for_. you told us why you like linux [09:47] The-Croupier: Well considering all of his assumed expertise will be wasted if you switch. You need some better arguments than 'i like bash scripting' to convice the boss. [09:47] what problem would linux be solving for you? [09:47] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m mbcache:jbd:ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/sda1 [09:47] on the mkinitrd command I ran, should I have added smp? [09:47] ah [09:47] s/\./,/ [09:47] exactly :) [09:47] hiptobecubic: i noticed that [09:47] just came to me [09:48] thrice`: do that then reboot? [09:48] The-Croupier: switch and make let your linux work better than window$... [09:48] The_Seeker: you must rerun lilo after making a new initrd, i believe [09:48] *s/make// [09:48] The_Seeker, do that, and run "lilo" again for the new initrd [09:48] ok [09:48] thrice`: thanks for the help - much appreciated [09:48] the rest of your lilo.conf looks great [09:49] thrice`: I'm guessing I'll have to reinstall my nvidia kernel module once I boot into the generic kernel [09:49] metrofox: The-Croupier: That's all well and good to convice your girlfriend to try Mandriva. At work where everyone loses their job if the company tanks because of infrastructure problems, you can't just 'switch and see how it holds up'. [09:49] The_Seeker: you are guessing correctly. [09:49] thrice`: installed from SBo by the way [09:49] ananke: i do lots of research..i open at least 50 to 100 tabs, i create documents, statistics, cvs, application forms, change pdf to whatever format...search for files in my pc and the network-share one... [09:49] The_Seeker: It's on sbo [09:50] hiptobecubic: yeah you're right... but seen that he absolutely wants to switch let him switch... [09:50] The_Seeker, yes, since you're booting into an entirely new kernel (even though they have the same version) [09:50] ananke: do you know how many times i have to restart with windows? [09:50] The_Seeker: :D [09:50] been using Debian for too long - got lazy ;) [09:50] The-Croupier: restart what? [09:50] that seems to be the only way.... [09:50] ctrl+alt+del might help you ;) [09:50] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.tea.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:50] ananke: restart windows...;) [09:50] thanks thrice`and hiptobecubic [09:50] If my boss tells me I've to use _whatever_ he wants I will :) [09:51] The-Croupier: sounds like you should considering upgrading to windows 7 [09:51] metrofox: HE wants to switch, but luckily for everyone in the company, he isn't in charge of IT. I'm all for linux in principle, sometimes windows is the answer. [09:51] back soon [09:51] ananke: thanks ;) he is thinking of that ;) [09:51] Particularly TinyXP ;) [09:51] The_Seeker, of course :) usually the signal-to-useless-shit discussions aren't this bad, [09:51] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] thrice`: lol, yeah that was bizarre [09:51] hiptobecubic: that's what I'm saying too :) [09:52] The-Croupier: so make a business case to your boss. do you document the problems you have? do you document how many times you really have to restart? [09:52] i still prefer something i know...and i believe i do know linux better than windows...i need to change some file format from one to the other ..have to look online for at least 2hours to get a free one.. in linux most of the things i need i can do preatty much straight away.. [09:52] The-Croupier: when was the last time you had to restart? did you lose work? how much time did it cost you to get back to the same point? [09:53] brb :) [09:53] The-Croupier: ananke is on the ball here. Annoyances that don't cost anything are still better than switching to a completely new technology and throwing away all of your experience. [09:53] the 'i like linux' argument is never a good way to convince somebody. unless you can prove to your boss that he's losing more money by having you use windows, he has no reason to listen to you [09:53] ananke: i tried ones...( and failed) bosses response was: well we shall get you a better pc then shall we [09:53] The-Croupier: And you're complaining ? :D [09:54] guys guys guys im not complaining ..never did ;) [09:54] i just said it would be better to have something you knwo than something you have to search for and work for most of the times to do your job ;) [09:54] The-Croupier: MY old boss wouldn't even believe me when i did something on the command line in Windows. She'd say.. yeah but did it get deleted? Open up explorer and just.... [09:55] The-Croupier: across the whole company? or just you [09:55] no no just me [09:55] we are talking about just me... [09:55] the others just use word excel and ie thats it [09:55] ohh and outlook [09:55] thats it [09:56] What are you using? [09:56] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [09:56] pretty much the same with some more additional networking software, auditing tools, and lots and lots of tabs in ie [09:56] im not even allowed ffox [09:57] The-Croupier: Did you ask why no ff? [09:57] i showed him a paper some time ago, saying that ff has better security then ie, but he didnt listen, i didnt say anything else [09:57] especially since the government security agency suggested not using ie [09:58] alisonken1noc: when/ [09:58] yeah...i did, and i do understand that some software that was designed some 5years ago under the supervision of the win-admin was designed only for ie..so... [09:58] last year [09:58] so i didnt say anything [09:58] alisonken1noc: after IE8 ? [09:58] The-Croupier: the 'security' argument is never a good one. [09:58] before ie8 [09:58] alisonken1noc: right [09:58] ananke: i thought it was...:( im new ... [09:58] but ie8 still has security issues [09:59] alisonken1yep ;) [09:59] alisonken1noc: sure, but they all do. IE8 isn't the laughing stock that IE6 was [09:59] true [09:59] Axius (n=fd@92.84.5.69) left irc: Connection timed out [09:59] The-Croupier: when it comes to organizations where security isn't a big issue, and IT personnel is not concerned - security argument never wins. [09:59] ananke: well, i think you guys have to teach me some actual arguments...cos im having a hard time learning by myself ;) [09:59] it's money [09:59] I feel like I'm in some crappy college lecture again [10:00] thrice`: sorry man :( my fault :( [10:00] The-Croupier: can you argue for using firefox based on anything else? How would trusting a second piece of software (with new and different security issues inherently btw) make the company more money? [10:00] The-Croupier: i already gave you a few pointers: document the problems you have with your current setup. _document_ times when you have to restart windows. document the amount of time required to deal with problems. [10:00] stunix (i=1000@80.239.63.76) joined ##slackware. [10:01] i noted that already..thanks ananke [10:01] Action: The-Croupier noted that the first time ;) [10:01] The-Croupier: and hang out in ##windows where they can help you find things more quickly than 2hrs [10:01] The-Croupier: what's the core business of this company? [10:01] Education [10:01] indeed. your inability to use the tools you're given is your fault [10:01] The-Croupier: whose education? is this a service your company sells? [10:03] yep, alot of them... they do like ecdl, gmat,gre, ielts, ( certificates for entrance in universities) applications...etc [10:03] lots of other stuff that go around those things [10:03] so figure out how using firefox would benefit those goals [10:04] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:04] okay, so maybe. [10:04] ananke: yep got that...i do use those tools just fine..i just wanted linux because i believe it would help me more on the technical department and the company other stuff ;) [10:04] ananke: cool..thanks ;) [10:04] 3 shots of overproof rum with a cocnut chaser was not such a godo idea [10:04] personally, i still don't see a convincing reason to allow you to use something that's not standard [10:05] The-Croupier: what technical department? what does that have to do with your job? [10:07] spook: sure it was [10:07] hiptobecubic: yeah starting to agree. [10:08] i'm watching oldschool, its the perfect movie. [10:08] spook: didn't actually see it. Although i saw observe and report the other day. pretty great. [10:08] hiptobecubic: you must watch old school. [10:08] hiptobecubic: in fact, i will not talk to you until you have. [10:09] ananke: let me tell you exactly what i do: a) i teach computer science in the "foundation year" ( university preparation), b) im an It-admin (with the other guy) c) i do research on postgraduate students (applications,universities,requirements,cvs...etc) d) i help around too ;) ohh and most importantly i get 900euros [10:09] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] all sorted - thanks thrice`and hiptobecubic [10:10] The-Croupier, you really shouldn't complain. use windows :) [10:10] awesome :) no problem [10:10] nothing likw asking a question then having the answer come to you whilst you wait [10:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-vvkkobmnchkkpybb) left irc: [10:10] like* [10:10] I feel like I [10:11] I feel like I've learnt more in a week using Slackware than I did in 5 years using Debian [10:11] slava_dp: again.. i am not complaining :p [10:12] ananke: thank you again for all your time and appreciated information... really appreciate it.. thank you :) [10:12] have a good day/nigh/afternoon/whatever guys [10:12] see you soon [10:12] Action: slava_dp is having a good whatever [10:12] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-oeqahwweoedrffdx) joined ##slackware. [10:12] ;) [10:12] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:16] The_Seeker, yeah, it's kind of nice. slackware doesn't do anything for you, which means it'll always work fine, unless you do something to break it :) [10:16] why the hell does the kernel fail to load after an IPMI reset.. buts its fine after a power cycle?! [10:18] thrice`: what I like is all the packages I've needed after a default install I've compiled myself from the SBo site [10:18] i dont actually know any *possible* causes [10:19] The_Seeker, you use sbopkg? or do you do it manually? [10:20] Action: slava_dp is a free sbopkg advertisement :) [10:20] whats the command to update font again? [10:20] slava_dp: I did it manually at first to learn the process - I tend to use sbopkg now as it's quicker [10:20] toastytoast: fc-cache -v [10:21] thank you [10:21] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-29-255.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:23] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-172-45.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:49] hmm, vsftpd is amazingly brief at logging [10:50] ananke: I found out about that too recently [10:50] 500 OOPS: missing value in config file for: [10:50] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "cliente!!" [10:50] great. that's such a useful message [10:51] ananke: hehe [10:52] on the note of vsftp, i'm wondering: do any of you run into an issue of having to provide ability for external users to upload data for your existing users? [10:52] ananke: anon ftp? [10:53] spook: that's what i'm thinking of doing. i'm trying to set up vsftp with ssl [10:53] ananke: you can grant write access without read or delete, no? [10:53] i wish there was an easier way of deploying such solutions, and one that didn't require special custom setup on the system [10:54] hiptobecubic: yep. then it's a question of setting up local permissions so the users can pick those files up, and remove them [10:54] ananke: and a filesize limit, of course [10:55] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-134-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:55] i've tried to find any web based app, that could be easily deployed on a web server, and would allow to delegate the ability of setting up more complex user / repository structure [10:55] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Gotta love Slackware! [10:56] ravigehlot: good point [10:56] spook: I have used Slackware since its 1st version. [10:56] thrice`: you around? [10:56] wrapping http with ssl is a breeze. vsftp is such a pain :) [10:56] ravigehlot: ooooh here we go. [10:57] ravigehlot: yeah but it didn't get good until around v5 :) [10:57] sfv (n=wbb@adsl112-177.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:57] warning guys, ravigehlot is going to turn out to be a total dick,. [10:57] hiptobecubic: It was nice to chat between terminals :)) [10:57] ravigehlot: that didn't make a lot of sense. [10:57] freaking a. whoever wrote the parser for vsftpd's config should be shot: it breaks if you have a _space_ on an empty line [10:57] hiptobecubic: Call on another computer for chatting [10:58] you mean rsh+talk? [10:58] ananke: lol. [10:59] spook: yeah. it's as bad as you can get. thankfully i was using an editor that shows those [10:59] Oh I need some action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:59] Does the military use Slackware? I am thinking about enlisting [10:59] ananke: hehehe [11:00] ravigehlot: get stationed with twinreverb, he uses slackware [11:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] hiptobecubic, except there was no v5 ;) [11:00] spook: Air Force here babe [11:00] firedix (n=firedix@host76.201-252-172.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:00] ravigehlot: hes an airforce mechanic. [11:00] spook: I am gonna end being a Private [11:00] but i'm going to stop talking to you, because obvious troll is obvious [11:00] spook: blow up some skinnies somewhere [11:00] slava_dp: That's what I said. [11:01] hiptobecubic, okay =) [11:01] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:03] spook: obvious? nah, that's an understatement ;-) [11:03] haha [11:03] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:03] Camarade_Tux: i'm drunk so soue me [11:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Action: Dominian sues spook [11:04] spook: my fridge is already starting to empty ='( [11:04] Dominian: awww [11:04] i thought we were friends [11:04] Camarade_Tux: save sum till i get the money to get there' [11:05] spook: no need to save it, I'll buy you some when you get here :P [11:06] Camarade_Tux: its a plan [11:06] but can we meet over the border [11:06] like, not inf rance [11:06] haha, only in France! :P [11:07] that troll failed at trolling this channel [11:07] spook: but if you're in Europe, I can have you cross borders without noticing it ;-) [11:07] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-283883.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:07] antiwire: except he kinda bated me [11:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:08] Ninjas are easily bated. [11:09] Jedis aren't though [11:09] No, they're definitely aren't. 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[11:14] lsmod + dmesg + lspci == way to go [11:15] I wonder if it sometimes loads modules while the partition is still ro [11:15] I guess i did change a lot of modules to built-ins [11:15] hiptobecubic: possibly not. [11:15] wait, [11:15] but some odd things are happening, like powernow-k8 didn't load [11:15] hiptobecubic: did you watc old school yet [11:16] spook: you /are/ drunk [11:16] acton (n=tyler@tds-solutions.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] spook: no. [11:16] I just checked through the mirror, and didn't see anything. I don't have a dvd drive on the comp I want to install slack on, is there a minimal cd I can use somewhere? [11:16] did someone just say something to me? because i certainly didnt hear them, especially if they have watched old school yet [11:17] acton: slackware comes in CDs as well [11:17] 3 packages + 3 sources [11:17] 3 CDs* [11:17] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:17] yeah. I was just looking for a minimal rather than a huge dvd or 5 cds [11:17] a ha [11:17] rc.modules doesn't load it by default unless the 'battery' module is loaded... which it isn't because it's built-in [11:17] do I need all three? [11:18] Oh, Slackware, you old dog, you. [11:18] acton: see http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [11:18] the contents of the cds are described there [11:19] if you dont need kde you only need 2 for example [11:20] shyko (n=francisc@201-76-76-188.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [11:20] acton: minimum installs are not for behginners [11:20] good thing I'm not a beginner. what's the a/d/e thing? [11:20] ... [11:20] good thing yeah:) [11:21] glad you agree. [11:21] so I just need disk 1 and two? the others look repedative, and I don't run kde. [11:21] i am sure by begginer spook meant new to slackware, not in general [11:21] yeah should be safe to skip kde & kdei [11:22] well. I'd like to compile everything. I can start off with a minimal and work from there. [11:22] nice [11:22] The only thing I'm not sure whether I'll manage is an ssh connection. [11:22] I'm blind, so I'm going to end up getting sighted help to install it, after that point on something like deb I just apt-get the ssh package and go from there. Does slack come with ssh by default? Or even better, can I do an ssh install like with gentoo? [11:23] Slackware comes with openssh. it in the n/ as in "network" directory [11:23] gotcha. thanks. I ahven't done a slack install before. [11:24] follow the links in the forum topic and dig into it:) [11:24] haha. sounds like I'll have something to do. ooo. actually, I think slack supports an external speakup synth. I could do that. [11:26] Slackware has brltty in extra/ http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/brltty/ [11:26] im not sure how that works though. but its not installed by default [11:26] you ll have to add it later yourself [11:26] yeah. I think speakup is built in. I don't have a braille display to use, but I have an external synth [11:27] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-93.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] actonnnnnnnnn [11:28] excuse me, friendly Slackware Advice Bureau [11:28] ? [11:28] anyone know a good program for audio recording and etc. that is not Audacity :3 [11:28] there seem to be some other emacspeak stuff in extra/ too [11:28] can we get a google without ubuntu results? [11:29] chee: cat /dev/audiorecorder > file [11:29] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:29] hm! sppook ^^ it willmake a RAW audio , hm? [11:29] Camarade_Tux: make a feature request :P [11:30] sahk0: he ;p [11:30] google "studies" your queries and for me, it understood I wanted linux-related answers most of the time but its definition of linux seems quite different from mine >< [11:31] chee: then you encode it. [11:31] Camarade_Tux: advanced search <-try that [11:32] init[1]: I often add -ubuntu to my search queries [11:32] but it's not always enough [11:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:32] why exclude a linux distro with the most users? [11:33] hm! [11:33] aigon (n=jfo@92.85.218.83) joined ##slackware. [11:33] thrice`: because its howtos/docs/whatever never give me the answers I want [11:34] Camarade_Tux: what about LQ? [11:34] nothing there too ? [11:34] like a "howto" on some virtual machine was more a howto about installing windows (plus in a completely broken way with bad tools) [11:34] init[1]: very good website ;-) [11:35] spook: i am not being a success [11:35] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:35] chee: what [11:35] chee: my suggestion was a joke. [11:36] Camarade_Tux: search within google groups [11:36] lynx is damn terrible. [11:36] :( [11:36] I should by a bottle opener, I'm going to kill me if I continue to use scissors... [11:36] init[1]: hmmm, never tried, could be a good solution [11:36] Camarade_Tux: i have a bottle opener ring, the one from thinkgeek [11:36] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [11:37] hahaha ;p [11:37] Camarade_Tux: http://groups.google.co.in/groups/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=virtual+box&btnG=Search&sitesearch= [11:37] you have a link for that spook ? [11:37] Scuzz: what [11:37] Camarade_Tux: have you tried to open with your teeth ? here we do that :P [11:37] the ring [11:38] init[1]: I like my teeth [11:38] Scuzz: search fucking hell [11:38] hiptobecubic, Why are say that lynx is terrible? [11:38] lol [11:38] k [11:38] and that doesn't work well with better beers, the caps are a bit stronger [11:38] Camarade_Tux: my ring! [11:38] oh, spook, it worked ! [11:39] good, this is fine [11:39] http://web.mit.edu/~tcarlile/www/images/blog/195orval.jpg [11:39] bah [11:39] omg i have to buy that [11:39] that was for spook :P [11:40] Camarade_Tux: its loading [11:40] very slowly [11:41] Camarade_Tux: wow there are some wedding pics :P [11:41] Nick change: g4tt0 -> sincope [11:42] because i hate using it [11:42] Camarade_Tux: still not fully loaded [11:42] but that looks msooooo good [11:43] init[1]: ? [11:43] Camarade_Tux: http://web.mit.edu/~tcarlile/www/images/David%27s%20Wedding/ [11:43] :P [11:44] init[1]: lol [11:44] Action: init[1] :D [11:44] spook: there's something a bit weird about this beer, don't know what [11:45] \o/ [11:45] Camarade_Tux: ok...? [11:47] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-93.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:48] elinks's makefile uses colors? [11:48] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:48] ? [11:48] hiptobecubic: thats cmake, afaik [11:48] ah [11:48] no cmake, but it does use colours [11:49] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.56.150.49) joined ##slackware. [11:50] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.tea.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] Ludakrintin (n=krintin@41.223.57.75) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) joined ##slackware. [11:55] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [11:55] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] Who is david and why have you posted pictures of his wedding? [11:57] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:58] crazyhors (n=gr@d75-152-223-173.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] anyone here use slackware an a tablet? [12:01] Is there a way to restart a terminal? seejpeg borked it after i fiddled in /etc/vga/ [12:01] i can ssh in, but the screeen is just black [12:01] can't switch vts [12:01] hiptobecubic: try using 'reset' [12:01] antiwire: i don't have a local terminal. only ssh [12:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [12:02] sounds like you borked it [12:02] .. [12:02] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:04] i sorta wish that kernel patches were diff'd against the immediately preceding ver [12:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:05] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] damnit [12:06] i guess i'm shutting down [12:08] i don't get it [12:08] it reads from the keyboard [12:09] and the mouse. I can read /dev/mice and /dev/input/event0 [12:09] can you read /dev/reboot_already ? [12:10] mancha: there's really no way restart a terminal? I'd like to know what is going on, not just reboot and wait for some magic [12:11] well giving us a play-by-play isn't getting you closer to the truff (TM) [12:11] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:11] It will if someone knows what to do [12:11] known in other parts as troof [12:12] did you try antiwire's reset suggestion? [12:12] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:12] mancha: reset dosn't help over ssh [12:12] don't tell me what you think you know, did you try it? [12:13] mancha: of course. [12:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [12:14] why do you say you can only ssh in, didn't you say the kb worls? [12:14] works* [12:15] i mean the machine is taking input from the keyboard. i can read /dev/input/event0 over ssh [12:15] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Success [12:16] bye [12:16] ok, let's take a step back. are you (YES/NO please) at the machine in question, physically there and shit [12:16] sincope (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:17] mancha: YES [12:17] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-108.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] so login (as would a blind man) and try to reset it [12:18] else stop worrying about how you screwed thing up by trying to see a jpeg command line, reboot, and don't do it again [12:18] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [12:19] mancha: That's enough out of you. [12:19] heres a cool trick. [12:19] go into a tty, and enter your username in uppercase [12:20] watch what happens [12:20] you mean login incorrect? [12:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [12:20] no. [12:21] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] svgalib should ask a hard math question before letting a user invoke it [12:22] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-43-104.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving." [12:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:22] hiptobecubic: wtf. [12:22] they might have finally fixed that [12:22] or maybe because we're using a framebuffer [12:23] mancha: Apparently we don't need questions any harder than 'how do we restart a terminal' to stump you. I don't see what you're trying to prove [12:23] spook: what used to happen? [12:23] hiptobecubic: well it says password: right? [12:23] indeed [12:23] what happens is [12:23] PASSWORD: [12:23] lol [12:23] then everything is uppercase only [12:23] mine just says Password [12:23] then next user is greeted with [12:23] LOGIN: [12:24] because it thinks you have an uppercase only terminal [12:24] why would they 'fix' that [12:24] i don't think you really want to "restart a terminal" else a kill -9 from ssh would suffice. maybe the answers would be better if the questions would be too [12:24] thats why, usernames, should never have uppercase [12:24] hiptobecubic: its for realllly old stuff [12:24] mancha: clearly you've had this problem because that is not the solution. Move on. [12:25] you've never* [12:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [12:26] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [12:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:28] :o 2129 root 20 0 9164 7840 408 R 97 1.6 101:12.93 bzip2 [12:28] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:29] epic compression [12:29] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) got netsplit. [12:29] Guest44423 (n=michael@70.183.55.147) got netsplit. [12:29] nlhub (n=nlhub@71.60.234.252) got netsplit. [12:29] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) got netsplit. [12:29] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [12:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-143.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7441A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] spook: i don't know why you were so humbe. this is better than any other means of recording audio. [12:30] l [12:30] chee: you got it working? [12:30] chee: what. [12:30] chee: are you on drugx? [12:30] i want to use my bluetooth keyboard with slack. how do i tell slack to due bluetooth stuff? [12:30] yes. [12:31] cat /dev/dsp_in > pedro [12:31] due? like pay for it [12:31] oggenc -r pedro [12:31] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [12:31] nlhub (n=nlhub@71.60.234.252) returned to ##slackware. [12:31] Guest44423 (n=michael@70.183.55.147) returned to ##slackware. [12:31] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) returned to ##slackware. [12:31] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [12:31] ogg123 pedro.ogg [12:31] win win win! [12:31] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Excess Flood [12:31] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-154.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:31] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] except [12:32] *2 [12:32] chee: isn't that the same as just using `arecord` (you can use aplay to play them directly) [12:33] oho? [12:33] chee: i'm really good like that [12:33] chee: now kiss my ring [12:33] echo "r" > /proc/sysrq-trigger [12:34] bad! [12:34] mancha: i'm sorry, that is deserving of at least a kick if not ban, [12:34] rworkman: alienBOB [12:34] huh? thats a good way to try to reset svgalib [12:35] get whatever's in your ass outta it [12:35] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:35] with the magic sysrq key, r is reboot [12:35] b is reboot [12:35] hiptobecubic, what does the a stand for ? [12:36] b is reboot, yss [12:36] r requests keyboard control [12:36] no? [12:36] yes and resets XLATE [12:36] oh right [12:36] my bad [12:36] mac-: sorry [12:36] mancha: sorry [12:36] i wish noobs would learn some linux before calling for my head [12:36] Type Busier Backwards [12:36] :D [12:36] chee: yeah i had it doubel backwards [12:36] i have no sysrq key either, spook [12:36] chee: alsa probably [12:37] i am using a macintosh keyboard [12:37] hiptobecubic, i am not using alsa! [12:37] stunix (i=1000@80.239.63.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] THE A IS PROBABLY FOR AUDIO [12:37] there is an ossrecord ! [12:37] mancha, meh [12:38] mancha, thought it wa reboot as well :x [12:38] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] aha! [12:38] ossrecord pedro [12:38] ossplay pedro [12:38] !! win [12:38] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] folks, i've been here enough so that people don't think i'm pasting stuff that'll bite folks in the ass... [12:39] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-144-194-220.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] you could be manchas evil twin [12:39] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) got netsplit. [12:39] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) got netsplit. [12:39] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [12:39] Guest44423 (n=michael@70.183.55.147) got netsplit. [12:39] nlhub (n=nlhub@71.60.234.252) got netsplit. [12:39] got a goatee? [12:39] ahaha [12:39] mancha: protip, posting without surrounding explanition or context never helps [12:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] also [12:40] protip: shoot the cyberdemon until it dies. [12:40] rm -rf /* [12:40] chee [12:40] chee: that gets you banned [12:40] chee: even joking, that is never okay. [12:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:40] didn't we tell you to quit being a fucking moron? [12:40] rly, i am sorry [12:40] no, thrice` [12:41] that's the 3rd time you've been told not to do that [12:41] what happens if someone accidentally copies the buffer and pastes it into a term? [12:41] you've screwed them over. [12:41] no, thrice` [12:41] antiwire: they get a lot of input errors! [12:41] spook: depending on how it's copied they may get a working command [12:42] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] do we all spend our time pasting irc chat into terminals as root? [12:42] hiptobecubic: i'm well aware of that. go watch old school. [12:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [12:42] chee, it doesn't matter, typing stupid shit like that contributes NOTHING, and can only hurt people [12:42] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:43] chee: you only have to do it once [12:43] mm, that was not what i was asking thrice` [12:43] hm , i did it once on a newly installed debian machine [12:43] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.43.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:43] chee: i don't see why you're trying to defend this. [12:43] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.88.88) joined ##slackware. [12:43] chee: you are side stepping the issue. The issue is that you typed and send a command that is not useful to anyone. [12:43] hiptobecubic, i'm not [12:44] that is not what i am doing [12:44] to be fair, rm wont delete / by default [12:44] i apologised immediately [12:44] slackytude, check his command once again [12:44] need --no-preserve-root switch too [12:44] slackytude: what he typed will do damage, certainly [12:44] slackytude: he did /* [12:44] also like. [12:44] hopefully an op catches you one time and bans you [12:44] if you do want to do it [12:45] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) got lost in the net-split. [12:45] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) got lost in the net-split. [12:45] Guest44423 (n=michael@70.183.55.147) got lost in the net-split. [12:45] nlhub (n=nlhub@71.60.234.252) got lost in the net-split. [12:45] Sier- (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [12:45] hrm [12:45] thrice`, i think you have me confused with somebody else [12:45] say at least, rnotm \ [12:46] there is someone in here called 'chii'. perhaps you are confusing me with them. [12:47] whoppix (n=whoppix@ti0021a380-dhcp0681.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [12:48] No, I'm pretty sure we saw you type the line in question [12:48] chee: avoid that command next time though :) [12:48] Good evening, #slackware. Did I read correctly from slackware.com that slackware is not available (at this time) for the amd64 architecture? [12:48] whoppix: er. [12:48] whoppix: No.. I'm running slackware64 at home right now [12:48] whoppix: you read bad [12:48] i have only typed that command three other times in my life. one was in here, when I was telling my story about destroying my machine at 6am. another was when I was telling my friend dave about destroying my machine at 6am. and the other was when i was destroying my machine at 6am. [12:48] *wrong [12:49] whoppix: re-read http://slackware.com/ [12:49] whoppix: hahaha. [12:49] the Slackware 13.0 release announcement [12:49] Dominian, ah. weird, the page gave me the impression slackware is only available for 32 bit platforms. [12:49] read it again.. [12:49] lol whoppix [12:49] then again 'til you won't get the right jam of it :D [12:49] not sure how you got that impression from the first post on that page stating that "a 64bit port is available" [12:49] this must be the mid day bullshit session of this channel [12:50] later. [12:50] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [12:50] o.O [12:50] under "general information" it doesn't mention the 64 bit build, it only mentions 32bit. [12:50] but thanks for the information. [12:50] Dominian: he may read the "un" prefix before avaiable :P [12:50] heh [12:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-40-23.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] whoppix: Well, under the News headings.. its mentioned [12:50] aigon (n=jfo@92.85.218.83) left irc: "Leaving" [12:51] the info page only mentions 32bit, not 64 or arm [12:51] Dominian, yeah, I see. seems the other section wasn't updated yet. thanks nyway. [12:51] anyway, even [12:51] np [12:52] whoppix: go to, get slackware [12:52] and you'll see very clearly [12:53] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [12:53] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-53-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [12:54] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] how can I run the mpd daemon ? [12:56] start it? [12:56] yes [12:56] tsonev: mpd. [12:57] you might want to mpd --create-db [12:57] and configure the /etc/mpd.conf [12:57] hmm [12:57] it seems that I messed up the installation [12:58] use the slackbuild :) [12:59] when I install it with pkgtool [12:59] sonata cannot find it [12:59] ... [12:59] now I compile it [13:00] and it works [13:00] but not at all [13:00] shyko (n=francisc@201-76-76-188.flash.tv.br) left irc: "see ya" [13:00] the slackbuild works perfectly for me [13:00] for me too [13:00] k, I'll try it [13:00] 10x [13:00] sonata doesn't need MPD to run, only to to connect [13:00] only to * [13:01] but it will need python-mpd or whatever [13:01] ou, I was talking about python-mpd [13:01] lol [13:01] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [13:02] sonata will also compile fine without python-mpd, but it needs it at run-time. 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[13:33] here, take your award for the most meaningless question :) [13:33] revengervn: its a... [13:33] unweighted... [13:33] .. [13:33] :| [13:33] undirected graph [13:34] I thought it should be directed [13:34] ... [13:34] why? [13:34] can you not reply to emails or something now? [13:34] since some servers permit only sending email [13:34] :| [13:34] and incoming emails stopped by firewall [13:35] i mean no inbound connection [13:35] am I right? [13:35] no. [13:39] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-283883.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:40] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [13:41] and I was happy, I had a windows7 virtual machine in qemu-kvm, I killed it when I installed a redhat driver on it ='( [13:41] should I blame microsoft or redhat? [13:42] yes [13:44] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:a5) joined ##slackware. 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[14:05] crazyhors (n=gr@d75-152-223-173.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-283883.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:05] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30DBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [14:06] anyone here know the minimal price for an intel 8-core system? [14:06] pricewatch [14:07] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Camarade_Tux: look it up [14:07] XD [14:08] sfv (n=wbb@adsl25-139.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] Action: Camarade_Tux stabs deco [14:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:11] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.32) joined ##slackware. [14:11] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] sfv (n=wbb@adsl13-43.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:13] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] anyone want a beta invite to heroes of newerth game? [14:16] juice: yes [14:16] email addy? [14:16] juice: no [14:16] lol [14:16] ok [14:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-84-66.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] i don't know you [14:17] well then no beta invite I guess [14:17] it's done via email addy [14:17] juice: deco [at] hereiam [dot] com :P (j/k) [14:17] heh [14:18] heh [14:19] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:20] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:22] deco: he prefers to receive message at webmaster [at] porn [dot] com -_- [14:22] Camarade_Tux: yes -_- [14:22] www.freezedown.com/webmail username deco@freezedown.com if you want an invite I will send you the pass and invite to that account [14:22] juice: i don't have the hardware to run the game [14:22] ok [14:23] if deco is a webmaster, I'm the freakin pope. [14:23] chopp: i am actually [14:23] but only static sites [14:23] hmmm, tagliatelle or spaguetti? [14:23] Pope John Chopp? [14:23] lol...I guess. [14:25] whoops, Pope John Chopp IV ;) [14:25] juice: stop pm me. i won't do that, i'm not that easy [14:25] went for spaguetti [14:25] we have to go on date first [14:25] on a* [14:25] :o [14:26] deco shut up I didn't pm you if you want to start being lame I will get you banned from here [14:26] in his first year he bade the whole vatican linux-based through canon law 37337 [14:26] someone didn't take a joke lol [14:26] s/bade/made [14:26] hey mancha [14:26] re [14:27] lol [14:27] Sl4ck (i=be27cd51@gateway/web/freenode/x-pjvobdephkxvchfq) joined ##slackware. [14:28] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-74.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [14:28] bb freaking nautilus keep crashing for no reason [14:29] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] Nick change: slakmagi1 -> slakmagik [14:31] nautilus... [14:31] lol [14:32] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] does anyone know how Patrick Volkerding creates the file FILELIST.TXT? [14:33] yes. [14:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [14:33] i tryed find -ls but it's not the same :/ [14:34] ls -lR mayhaps? [14:34] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-154.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:36] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-19.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:37] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:38] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:39] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [14:40] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [14:40] mancha, i tryed ls -lR but it separate the info of the subfolders like this... [14:41] ./folder1: [14:41] total xxxxx [14:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 479 2009-10-21 11:03 file_1 [14:41] ./folder2: [14:41] total xxxxx [14:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 479 2009-10-21 11:03 file_1 [14:41] Channel flood from sagival -- kicking [14:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 479 2009-10-21 11:03 file_2 [14:41] sagival kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:41] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-283883.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:41] sorry for the flooding [14:41] sagival: say sorry to slackboy not us [14:42] ok :) [14:42] :) [14:44] so..what i want is a list like that ls -LR returns but without separating the subfolders...like FILELIST.TXT [14:45] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [14:46] lets say that i want my own FILELIST.TXT with the same format as the original but different files/folders [14:48] maybe something like: find . -exec ls -l {} \; | sort [14:49] though the sort would have to be done on the last field, so play with it a bit, you've got a good hint on how to do it though [14:50] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30DBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:51] why sort? I thought ls, by default, sorts by name [14:51] hmm.. never checked to make sure [14:51] because you didn't read my command line [14:52] find does the same too, afaik [14:52] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-42-209-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:55] thanks mancha.. ill try it [14:55] I just checked. the output is sorted by name [14:55] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:55] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:56] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:57] interesting, find is not sorted here on this end [14:57] interesting indeed [14:58] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.13.48) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [14:59] but if the output was not sorted and you want to sort it, you can run it through sed to change the order of fields, then sort it [14:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [15:00] hmm.. actually I think you can select which field to sort [15:00] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:00] sure you can, -k8 for this case [15:00] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.56.150.49) left irc: ":)" [15:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:01] yeah.. i just checked the man page [15:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.21.171) joined ##slackware. [15:05] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:08] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:10] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-13-184-174.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-154.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "tchanana!!!" [15:14] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-283883.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:15] fjji (n=ojof@92.82.77.29) left irc: "Leaving" [15:15] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:17] how would one go about constructing a time-bomb on a hard drive. If the drive is on the same machine then its easy to setup a script but what if the drive is stolen and mounted on another machine ? [15:17] use disk IDs [15:19] or a more sane method is simply disk encryption [15:20] ppl have worked around encrypted disk with a modified boot loader [15:21] Do you even know how that attack works? [15:22] havent used it, just read up on it [15:23] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-282562.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:23] One method I know is goes like this: It's a physical attack that requires the attacker to have access to the system to make the modification and then wait for the real user to enter the passphrases. Then the attacker comes back to the system and recovers the passphrases. [15:23] afaik, this needs that the computer was shut down *very* recently [15:23] (read a few minutes ago) [15:24] or what antiwire just described [15:24] Camarade_Tux: that is the memory resilience issue. [15:24] the one you mention [15:24] antiwire: yeah, but could be that too [15:25] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [15:26] antiwire: Whoah that method of password theft is waaay too l33t! [15:27] the point I am trying to make is that being so worried about your data while still leaving your system in an unsecured physical state and working on some self destruct method is ass backward [15:27] when passphrases as mem cached you can dump the mem chips in liquid nitogen and save it for a while [15:27] if the data is *that* sensitive why are you leaving the system physically unsecured? [15:28] if the folks after you are that sophisticated youre screwed anyways [15:28] Oh hahah I see [15:28] all they need to do is cut a finger or two off and you'll be singing your passphrase anyways [15:28] lol [15:28] you can also change the firmware of some apple keyboards and turn them into keyloggers :D [15:28] Fingers?! We do retinas here. We cut your retina. [15:29] you don't even need liquid nitrogen. The SDRAM resilience issue has been successfully exploited with a can of dust off. [15:29] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [15:29] yeah anything to cool it off enough i guess [15:29] tmkd (n=tmkd@a4.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:29] afaik it was only 15 minutes or so [15:29] crazyhors (n=gr@d75-152-223-173.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:31] a self-destruct on an HD would require it to be fw-based as the new owner of the drive's not gonna boot into it most assuredly [15:32] deco, iooooo [15:32] Camarade_Tux, hello [15:32] antiwire, hello [15:32] mancha, hello [15:32] fredoslack: salut :) [15:32] so you'd need something like a Mission Impossible self-destruct thing. So either you're a covert operative or you're hiding illegal crap [15:32] any php geniii [15:33] x1user (i=1000@95.87.248.136) joined ##slackware. [15:33] hi guys, i need advice how to hibernate [15:33] x1user: eat a lot and than sleep [15:33] eat a lot, find a cave, go to sleep [15:33] dig a hole or find a cave [15:33] ;D [15:34] Mr mag0o you script that stuff yet ? [15:34] not yet [15:34] k [15:34] srsly [15:34] been working on drbd/heartbeat stuff the past week [15:34] mmm... where is the songwriter of yesterday who was writing a song 'bout slackware? [15:35] Action: fredoslack pousse deco contre slackboy [15:35] hu hu [15:35] fredoslack: lol [15:35] ^^ [15:35] x1user: http://suspend.sourceforge.net/ [15:36] fredoslack: hi [15:36] thanks mag0o, and also is it default program for battery percentage left like acpi [15:37] Nick change: Sl4ck -> jhyx [15:38] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. 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[15:42] x1user (i=1000@95.87.248.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] antiwire: sorry was away [15:43] the question was not about a physical system but rather a drive being taken away and mounted on another system [15:45] and who doesnt love ass backward [15:45] pupit (n=pupit@79.101.219.231) left irc: Client Quit [15:45] mancha: a finger or two is fine, i'd take that over a car battery wired to my funbox [15:46] Action: The_Seeker is discovering the joys of moc [15:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.74.67) joined ##slackware. [15:49] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:49] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [15:50] uva (i=bno@118-160-164-29.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:51] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-108.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] comp_ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) joined ##slackware. [15:51] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. 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[16:00] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.88.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [16:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] anyone know a filesystem that does *NOT* support holes in linux but supports files of up to 20GB? [16:05] cool, ntfs doesn't :) [16:05] Camarade_Tux, fat16 [16:05] :p [16:05] files of up to 20GB :D [16:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [16:07] sfv (n=wbb@adsl13-43.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Connection timed out [16:07] Camarade_Tux: what file would be 20GB ? [16:07] a virtual machine image :) [16:07] Camarade_Tux: yeah i had that in mind :P [16:07] hmmmm [16:07] exFAT [16:07] Not "Up & Coming 2009"? [16:07] I want to allocate it fully before using it because I get pretty bad performance (not sure it's that though) [16:08] in HD. [16:08] The_Seeker: available? [16:08] Nick_Patterson: ^^ [16:08] hahaha [16:08] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] hmmm [16:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-84-66.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:08] Camarade_Tux: Yes, starring the original Marilyn Chambers. [16:08] lol [16:09] actually I'm not sure ntfs is ok, I hadn't mounted my ntfs partition >< [16:09] anyway, holes don't survive scp so it's good :) [16:09] maybe they don't even survive cp... [16:09] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] adamk (n=adamk@c-68-34-175-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:a5) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:11] if holes survive cp, it'd be because cp has hole-detection code (which I doubt) [16:12] eh, if you find out holes do survive cp, try cat or dd (definitely won't survive those) [16:12] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:12] wth are you on about? [16:12] Action: jg71 reads up [16:12] files with holes in them [16:13] holes. ... like damaged media surface causing errors... [16:13] ddrescue then [16:13] Urchlay: holes survived cp between two xfs partitions on the same computer [16:13] no, this: open a new file for writing, write a few bytes, seek 1 gigabyte forwards, then write a few more bytes [16:13] sfv (n=wbb@adsl104-113.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Action: jg71 goes back to what he was doing [16:14] I'm not sure it'd do what I want: there may still be holes in the middle and that'd probably break my perf later on [16:14] (this is for a qemu qcow2 image) [16:15] jg71: most filesystems on linux are smart enough to only have to store the actual bytes written, plus a record that means "there are 1 gigabyte's worth of zeroes at this point in the file" [16:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-84-66.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:15] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-200-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:16] slackware has a rcp? [16:16] Camarade_Tux: yes [16:17] where is it? [16:17] Camarade_Tux: type rcp [16:17] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.31.94) joined ##slackware. [16:17] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420415.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] why use rcp? [16:17] not installed here (yes, I do partial installs, usually I work it out, but here...) [16:17] hiptobecubic: scp is too slow ;-) [16:18] hiptobecubic: with scp I'm cpu-bound (>50MB/s) [16:18] ah [16:18] and why aren't you using cp again? [16:18] or an option to disable encryption in scp [16:18] Camarade_Tux: did you try cat? [16:18] Camarade_Tux: oh well it's installed here, i only used the first cd [16:18] Urchlay: oh, yeah, right [16:19] Action: hiptobecubic is confused [16:19] Urchlay: same, takes 0.1s to write 20GB to the disk :D [16:19] hiptobecubic: because it preserve holes which I don't want [16:19] hm. [16:20] Camarade_Tux: preserves holes? [16:20] Action: hiptobecubic doesn't know much about filesystems [16:20] hiptobecubic: a file which can be up to 20GB but of which only a few bits are actually written on the disk [16:21] here, a file could be up to 20GB but only be 250KB on the disk [16:21] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [16:21] deco: which package does it come from? [16:21] Camarade_Tux: checking [16:22] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.222) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Camarade_Tux: hmmm it doesn't have it's own package so i'm guessing it comes with some other one :/ [16:23] netkit-rsh I think [16:23] \o/ [16:23] cat holyfile > holy2 [16:23] Camarade_Tux: \o/!! [16:24] Urchlay: preserves them [16:24] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] du shows holy2 has no holes [16:24] Urchlay: df told me it took no space [16:25] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Camarade_Tux: duh! the man page for rcp mentioned netkit at the end :P [16:26] :) [16:29] hm. df is showing me what I expect (if I delete holy2, I get 1030-odd more free blocks) [16:29] let me try this on an ext3 fs, I just remembered /home is still reiser3 on this box [16:29] here it was 3.5GB before and 3.5GB after [16:29] between two xfs partitions [16:30] I don't know how to use rcp :D [16:30] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:30] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:30] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:30] I don't either, actually... think you need to be running rsh from /etc/inetd.conf [16:30] tom__ (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:31] hi How do I debbug segmentation fault ? [16:31] I wonder if xfs is "helpfully" noticing the long streams of zeroes and re-creating the holes in the destination file [16:31] tom__: what program returns you a segmentation fault? [16:31] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] Urchlay: I don't think so, it's really the same file, bit-for-bit on disk [16:31] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "whatever" [16:32] revengervn (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-163-97.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:33] well, I don't know if it's bit-for-bit, but the size is the same and I don't think a "guess" could do that [16:33] metrofox, all using gtk [16:33] well, my holyfile and holy2 appear to be identical (with diff or cmp), but du shows holyfile takes 9 blocks and holy2 takes 1029 [16:33] tom__: all gtk apps return you a segmentation fauly? [16:33] *fault [16:34] if you used cat holyfile > holy2, then the only difference between what you're doing and what I'm doing, would be the fs type [16:34] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] metrofox, yes [16:34] tom__: gvim? [16:36] Camarade_Tux, gvim no, becaue it uses a diffrent window. [16:36] ? [16:36] turn subtitles on guys :D [16:36] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:36] Urchlay: hmmmmm [16:36] gonna start again clean [16:36] the gimp returns: (gimp:9293): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_info_load_icon: assertion `icon_info != NULL' failed (script-fu:9294): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error Segmentation fault [16:37] gdb $(which gimp) [16:37] run [16:37] when it crashes, run [16:37] bt [16:37] and pastebin the result [16:38] fwiw rworkman usually has latest gimp [16:38] Camarade_Tux: ok, ehm, I just tried it on an xfs filesystem, and got basically the same results (cat holyfile > holy2, and du shows holy2 takes 1028 blocks) [16:38] hey Rat409 [16:38] hey fire|bird [16:38] hey suffering|airline [16:38] err Urchlay [16:39] hey fire|bird [16:39] tom__: did you forget to install the hicolor-icon-theme package, maybe? [16:39] hey thrice`, how are you? [16:39] good, ~20 minutes til the work day is done :) [16:39] \o/ [16:39] tough to complain [16:39] Urchlay: I'm pretty sure I had a problem with that but I got suddenly really tired a few minutes ago and I'm not sure I'm acting normally so I think I'll just stop here and call it a day >< [16:40] hey, prosodic|untidy [16:40] err, fire|bird [16:40] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [16:41] Urchlay, hicolor-icon-theme-0.10-noarch-5 is installed [16:41] tom__: OK, I was just guessing, based on the error message [16:41] tom__: been able to run the gdb thing? [16:42] Camarade_Tux: he won't get much useful info from gdb, /usr/bin/gimp is stripped [16:42] Camarade_Tux, http://pastebin.com/m29efe29 [16:42] Urchlay: I think it should display the libs [16:42] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:42] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:42] crap, doesn't [16:43] you'd get better results running: strace -f -o strace.out gimp [16:43] then pastebin the (probably huge) strace.out contents [16:44] Urchlay, this is your picture: [16:44] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [16:44] hihi [16:44] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [16:44] strace -f -o strace.out gimp, just hangs the console [16:44] redirect the output [16:44] &> some_file [16:44] fredoslack: hey, when did you sneak a hidden camera into my room?! [16:45] looool [16:45] upps right [16:45] tom__: strace -f gimp &> strace.out [16:45] (leave off the "-o strace.out" bit, if you're redirecting) [16:46] bah bah bah, I really have to go to bed [16:46] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.132.66) joined ##slackware. [16:46] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.129.205) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:47] No that hangs the conosle :( [16:47] I restarted all the gnome things in my home directory [16:47] but still nothing [16:48] gnome ? o_O [16:48] gnome? you're running gsb or something? [16:48] probably you won't get all that much useful help with gnome in here, most of us aren't using it [16:48] deco, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0008.gif [16:48] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [16:49] fredoslack: LOL! [16:49] ^^ [16:49] fredoslack: langue :P [16:49] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.31.94) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [16:49] Urchlay: ha, found what had changed for my holes problem: I expected "qemu-img create w7.qcow2 20G" created a qcow2 image but it doesn't, one has to specify "-f qcow2" (the documentation made me believe it looked at the extension) [16:49] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.31.94) joined ##slackware. [16:50] oh, so there weren't any holes in there to start with? [16:50] there were but after I removed them >< [16:50] now I can try again >< [16:51] and cp doesn't preserve holes [16:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:51] the world is safe [16:51] deco, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0014.gif [16:51] ^^ [16:51] lool [16:51] fredoslack: lol [16:51] fredoslack: that's Camarade_Tux [16:51] sorry for the annoyance >< [16:51] Camarade_Tux: gtfo [16:51] this is fredoslack http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/yay.jpg [16:52] Action: Camarade_Tux still wants qcow2 fully allocated [16:52] looool antiwire [16:52] antiwire: i bet lol [16:52] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/mrawesomeface.png [16:53] Camarade_Tux: I didn't think cp would preserve holes... [16:53] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Urchlay: me neither but it *seemed*it did >< [16:54] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-61-9.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:54] deco, that's me tonight >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [16:54] ^^ [16:55] :p [16:55] fredoslack: :P [16:55] Camarade_Tux: and I *knew* cat file > file2 wouldn't preserve holes (even before testing it to be sure) [16:56] he ;p [16:56] but it wouldn't surprise me if a fancy filesystem "helpfully" detected large chunks of zeroes and automagically created holes for you [16:56] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-41-12.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [16:56] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:56] (apparently xfs doesn't though, neither does reiser3, so maybe none of them do) [16:56] I think I've seen some cases it was being respected (maybe on windows) [16:57] yeah, it was probably some ntfs feature the windows explorer would preserve [16:57] uva (i=bno@118-168-239-208.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] and... http://geek.net/press/sourceforge-inc-changes-its-name-to-geeknet-inc/ [16:57] ... [16:58] ehhh [16:58] that is *really* lame [16:58] uva (i=bno@118-168-239-208.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] I'm surprised geek.net was available... ... ... [16:58] uva (i=bno@118-168-239-208.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] they probably paid an arm and a leg for it [16:58] Camarade_Tux: wow that's a great looking site [16:59] Urchlay: exactly what I had in mind [16:59] but I suppose they have enough employees that it wouldn't hurt the company much to amputate an arm and a leg from one of them (probably the janitor) [16:59] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] ^^ [17:00] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [17:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [17:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] who want to eat [17:02] > [17:02] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0038.gif [17:02] lool [17:03] Urchlay, you have misunderstood me, I use kde as desktop, although I suppose some gtk settings must be stored for each user somewhere. [17:04] catfish (n=dan@c-75-66-135-210.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] tom__: right... and gimp isn't a gnome app anyway [17:04] (just plain gtk) [17:04] does anyone find in KDE 4 that hitting the shift key turns off num lock? [17:05] pastebin - memory exceded, any other similar page ? [17:05] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:05] The_Seeker, its fine here [17:06] Scuzz: I have the numlock set to turn on when kde starts, which it does, but when I first use the shift key it turns off [17:06] did the same in debian too [17:07] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.31.94) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [17:07] Scuzz, you mean pasting here is fine , right ? [17:07] i was talking to The_Seeker [17:07] tom__: here's an idea: create a brand new user, log in as that user, and try to run the gimp [17:08] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-154.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] Urchlay, no I told you other accounts work normal. [17:08] if it works for the new user, then the problem is definitely a screwed-up config file in your first user's home directory [17:08] oh, you did? never mind [17:09] revengervn (n=chatzill@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:09] revengervn (n=chatzill@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Client Quit [17:09] tom__: ~/.gtk ? [17:11] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [17:11] hmmm brb [17:12] tom__ (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:12] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:12] zErOaCid (i=gnu@71.94.1.213) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] icarus (n=loqui@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:13] tom__ (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:13] gapan (n=gapan@adsl190-89.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:14] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Camarade_Tux, no I removed them but that;s not working ... I have them empty, could you pastebin yours ? [17:15] I have none [17:15] hmm oh it works now, I don;t know why this happens [17:16] I mean all app suddenly does not crash. [17:16] apparently the gimp won't let you strace it, so it's kinda hard to tell what it's doing... [17:16] see ya ^^ [17:16] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.187.10) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [17:16] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-4.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] tom__: why do you think gvim won't crash? [17:17] NO the failure is gone, everything works fine now [17:17] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:17] the gvim used diffrent SAVE AS box , you can check on your own if you want [17:17] yeah, I see [17:17] the gtk* must have been screwed up ... [17:19] I mean the ~.gtk* , anyway thanks :P [17:19] Nick change: tom__ -> paul424 [17:19] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:20] zErOaCid (i=gnu@71.94.1.213) joined ##slackware. [17:20] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:20] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. 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[18:08] anyone knows how to set a breakpoint in gdb on data of which I dont know the address but instead in the value of it? [18:08] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:09] if I set a string in the program to something like "blah" but I dont know the address of the string [18:11] how could I extract a file from an iso without using mount and with only "base" tools? (that's on a server I don't have many rights on) [18:13] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-282562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-39-38.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:16] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] what config file must I edit to stop the DHCP_REQUEST during boot? [18:16] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:17] beatzz: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [18:17] And you may want to read up on that file, it's probably going to be your friend. [18:18] word [18:18] gracias amigo [18:18] np [18:19] Camarade_Tux: look at iso-read [18:19] NaCl: I'll do if what I'm currently doing fails :D [18:20] I'm mounting the iso through https (fuse-based) and here I'm going to mount it with -o loop :) [18:20] perf should be horrible :D [18:20] I just typed in iso here and pressed 'tab' :P [18:20] ^^ [18:21] too easy :P [18:21] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [18:22] ok, it failed [18:22] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [18:26] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] sweet cheese [18:26] DHCP dosent wait for a responce anymore at boot [18:27] thanks NaCl [18:27] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-83-209.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:27] but I just noticed something else strange [18:28] Ctrl+Alt+F* dosent take me to a login shell [18:28] Camarade_Tux: I don't know if isomaster would interest you. [18:28] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [18:28] i missed the base toold part. nevermind [18:28] Hey [18:29] someone there installed compat32? [18:29] actually I can compile on this machine so I may try it [18:29] from alien? [18:29] (I don't know the exact filename) [18:29] must i have a slackware tree with software inside? [18:30] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Can I do 'slackpkg install packagename-version-i386-1.txz' or must I use installpkg for that? [18:30] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:30] is the same [18:30] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:30] veritos [18:30] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-119-52.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:30] veritos: just do installpkg [18:30] ok [18:30] better to use installpkg but slackpkg is a frontend of installpkg upgradepkg ,etc [18:31] does slackpkg keep any metadata that needs to be updated, then? [18:31] (other than what pkgtools keeps on its own) [18:31] Slackware package /tmp/grub-1.97.1-x86_64-1.txz created. :D [18:31] im using grub 1 [18:31] or legacy [18:31] hey, im following these http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [18:31] to install 32bit libraries [18:31] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:31] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:32] i installed compaqt32 and created package tree on slackware/ [18:33] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:33] but i have to download some packages a ap d l n and x [18:33] but i only wanna download what i need not whole slackware32 packages [18:33] proticon (n=proticon@71-8-193-174.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016081727]" [18:33] which would be the best option to do it? [18:33] alienBOB, !!! [18:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:35] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] I really need to go to bed >< [18:35] Yea, I can't Ctrl+Alt+F1 into a login shell [18:35] acidtripper: it's past midnight here [18:35] sleep is for the weak [18:36] lol [18:36] My god modern Warfare 2 is amazing [18:36] here 20:30 [18:36] 18:36 [18:36] Camarade_Tux, have you installed 32bits libs on slack64? [18:36] planned to but haven't [18:36] 32bit libs are for sissies [18:37] but i wana run some 32bits programs and i cant... [18:37] such as google earth :P [18:37] Anyone know why when I enter Ctrl+Alt+F1 it takes me to my bootsplash startup screen?? [18:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:37] without a login prompt [18:37] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-51.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] couse f1 is for login console [18:37] f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 for console [18:37] sorry f1 for kernel output [18:37] you have to activate f2f3,etc on /etc/inittab [18:38] the thing is that i have to download a slackware 32 tree to my pc, and the problem is that i dont want whole slackware tree only packages needed, soy thats my question [18:38] package tree* [18:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] f2, f3, ... are available directly [18:39] not in my case i hat to activate them [18:39] had* [18:39] maybe alienBOB is sleeping couse he doesn't answear pm's [18:40] ok, I'll have to download the whole iso, I could have gone to bed an hour ago, I could have download the iso meanwhile >< [18:40] you shouldn't pm someone without permission acidtripper. [18:40] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [18:40] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:40] why iso? [18:41] windows driver kit, need to feed the windows installer an unsigned driver for virtio for kvm [18:41] only x d ap l and other folders are needed, i did it in a respectful way fire|bird so that wouldn't be a problem [18:42] fire|bird, had you installed compat32? [18:42] or have*? [18:42] nope [18:42] my laptop is pure 64bit [18:42] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [18:42] my laptop is 2-bit [18:42] considered bad netiquette == pm w/o asking first [18:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) joined ##slackware. [18:43] and how you do to run 32bits soft? [18:43] or simply don't run it? [18:43] mancha: wow, you're rocking the latest tech. :) [18:43] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:43] yep, bleeding edge, so to speak [18:44] was bleeding-edge one day [18:44] is there a way to download a list of packages via wget? [18:44] couse i have the list of packages needed [18:44] i've put some money with a las vegas bookie on when pat will release a seamonkey patch...if all goes well i'll use that $$ to get a new box [18:44] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [18:44] haha [18:44] and good night gals and guys [18:44] lol [18:45] night Camarade_Tux [18:45] Camarade_Tux: night night [18:45] mancha: hahaha ;p [18:45] win 17 [18:45] bleh [18:45] fail [18:45] :) [18:45] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-70-170.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:45] cause I'm up, hard to type -_- [18:45] Camarade_Tux: that your sister ^ [18:45] deco: not really >< [18:46] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] deco: It's his brother from another mother. [18:46] crap, tomorrow is a non-worked day and I have nothing to eat... [18:47] fire|bird: lol [18:47] Camarade_Tux: you can eat me [18:48] he :P [18:48] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-209-244.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Camarade_Tux, mc donalds ;) [18:49] eeeewwww [18:49] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [18:51] deco++ ! [18:51] :) [18:52] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:53] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-201-51.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:54] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[19:21] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:23] hey im looking towards buying a new hard drive for my server comp ( slackware 13 os ) and im wordering if i should be looking towards an sda or hda? can someone explain the difference to me because i know ide is older technology than sata so is it a disadvatange to try to find a big enough hda or an advantage considering my os is slackware 13 [19:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] i cant find anythign bigger than 1 tera for hda while there are many bigger ones being sda [19:25] maciuszek: i found 2 tb [19:25] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:25] sata/scsi -> higher transfer rates, more features [19:25] I think IDE is on the way out [19:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [19:25] so is there any advantages going for an hda? [19:25] none [19:25] except compatibility with older hardware [19:26] ah [19:26] maciuszek: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148413 [19:26] super cheap [19:26] well i heard somehting about sada causeing mapping problems :S running under a linux kernal that is [19:26] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] deco: ty btw [19:28] maciuszek: np , hmmm now that i read the reviews they are not really nice :P [19:28] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7441A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-105-227.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.22.163) joined ##slackware. [19:31] deco: the link you gave me was for an sda tho wasent it , w.e i guess tho ill go for an sda lol, i just assumed it wouldn that complitble cause my current hd is sda and i was playing around with fedora a month of 2 ago. it basically hated my hard drive (error message )lol and kept crashing so i assume it was due to that [19:31] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:33] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [19:33] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [19:33] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.163.195) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.142.232) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] btw if i go buy a new hard drive ill have to format it myself i know that, but would you suggest reformatting my whole comp or just mount it in a certain directory? :S like where does a hard disk get monted in /mnt or /media aswel rightl? if so im a bit confused since since how can something exist inside itself since your / is on yoru hd [19:39] sorry for all the qeustions btw still a bit new to linux [19:39] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-42-209-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:39] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [19:40] andre_ (n=andre@dslb-084-059-211-147.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] good morning [19:41] how i can find a flasplugin for firefox on slackware bit? [19:41] 64bit [19:41] its in the extra folder on your dvd [19:42] oh okay thnx [19:42] np [19:42] hiptobecubic (i=46eedb7b@gateway/web/freenode/x-qxsokpjjlgrcqfft) left irc: "Page closed" [19:42] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:44] how i can install it? [19:44] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-180-252.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) joined ##slackware. [19:46] i copy both files to my home directory [19:46] then open up a terminal [19:46] and login as su [19:46] then i run [19:46] sh flashplayer-plugin.SlackBuild [19:47] after that [19:47] run [19:47] installlpkg flashplayer-plugin-10.0.32.18-x86_64-1 [19:47] opps [19:47] i meant [19:48] just stop please [19:48] s/installlpkg/installpkg/ [19:48] installpkg /tmp/flashplayer-plugin-10.0.32.18-x86_64-1 [19:48] k thnx :) [19:48] np [19:49] .tgz * [19:49] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] flashswitcher is a very cool addon for firefox. [19:51] mrselfpwn: what does it do ? [19:52] allows you to control different flash versions and switch between them. [19:52] interesting [19:53] y0 mrselfpwn [19:53] it basically has a folder named after the flash and release, when you select a different flash version it copies it from the appropriate folder to .mozilla/plugins [19:53] so all your flash is handled locally per the user as well which is nice [19:53] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-75-84.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:54] y0 fire|bird [19:54] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-75-84.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [19:55] Nick change: Sier- -> Sier [19:55] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:59] is there any source of google earth? [19:59] im looking a open google earth [19:59] compilled x86_64 :p [20:00] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) joined ##slackware. [20:00] is there a way to change Tuz with Tux for the kernel 2.6.29? [20:01] sure [20:02] XGizzmo: how's that? [20:03] gnite! 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[20:17] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] what do you guys think [20:18] http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3408/slackwarelogobig.png [20:19] could look sharper [20:20] you might try making a few less divisions in the characters too, i like it though [20:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [20:20] and cleaning up the GNU/Linux part a bit too [20:20] yeah i jsut noticed that [20:21] maybe radiospace font [20:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:22] the word Slackware is a little too glossy looking if you as me actually, you might try making it a little more muted rather than using less divisions [20:22] looks like a star wars logo [20:22] as it is it doesn't fit the right angle [20:22] i can't make out the [20:22] W [20:22] hmm [20:23] toastytoast: but good overall [20:23] mkay well thanks for your feed back i'll work on it a bit mroe then [20:23] yeah, it just needs to be refined [20:23] I'm just going through critique withdrawal at the moment, don't take it the wrong way :) [20:23] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [20:23] Jhyxjx (n=Jhyx@unaffiliated/jhyx) joined ##slackware. [20:24] i'm not critcal feed back si a good thing [20:24] Jhyx (n=Jhyx@unaffiliated/jhyx) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:24] its a way to help improve on our mistakes and prevent us from amkeing them in the future [20:24] Jhyxjx (n=Jhyx@unaffiliated/jhyx) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [20:24] yup, people have been known to take such things personally though [20:26] oh, heh, i was seeing it scaled down [20:26] looks better at 100% [20:26] thank you [20:27] note the interior and exterior corners of the turn in the right angled line are different [20:28] not sure if you want that or not [20:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-167-176.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:29] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:30] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) left ##slackware. [20:34] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-201-28.uniserve.ca) left irc: [20:35] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-244-106-206.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [20:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Alan_Hicks you in the mood to hack a little more with me [20:39] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-199-71.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:40] (confused himself, in sounding like a come on)_ [20:40] securekey (n=secureke@blk-224-252-108.eastlink.ca) left ##slackware. [20:41] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [20:43] AEnima1577: hack on what ? [20:43] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) joined ##slackware. [20:43] How can I get to my QT4 settings from xfce? [20:44] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) left ##slackware. [20:44] I need to change the default qt4 font setting. [20:44] deco, ive been having some trouble setting up mysql [20:45] AEnima1577: rawr [20:45] hey mrselfpwn [20:45] hi [20:45] in the mood.... to hack? [20:46] always [20:46] mrselfpwn: i'm in pekwm,but use dbus-launch-kded4 & to use kde settings globally,my menu is system>system-settings [20:47] i use .xinitrc and startx tho [20:47] Rat409: Thanks though I don't have kde4 installed [20:47] TwinReverb (n=robert@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [20:47] ok [20:48] oh xfce settings in your menu [20:48] mysql_install_db --user=mysql [20:48] returns [20:48] Yes, i can change the xfce font fine. It's just google earth font is really really tiny. I can't read it. [20:48] mrselfpwn, you can set the minimum font size [20:49] Adding GuiFontSize to the GoogleEarthPlus.conf didn't fix it as some suggested. [20:49] you can also unset the "allow websites to use their own fonts" but that sometimes makes stuff look ugly [20:49] http://pastebin.com/da5e1c47 [20:49] TwinReverb: Can i? [20:49] assuming java/flash honor that setting [20:49] try view>zoom [20:50] lol, I would look for the settings in google earth though the menus are too small to read. [20:50] stygian (i=stygian@69.149.152.230) left irc: "No windows for this server" [20:50] from lines 14 and 15 [20:50] i will run those lines [20:50] I even opened it in it's own X to no avail. [20:50] try ctrl + maybe? [20:50] with '' around my password [20:50] anyone else in here using LUKS/LVM ? [20:51] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.24.200) joined ##slackware. [20:51] and i get [20:52] error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)' [20:52] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-201-114.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:53] Check that mysqld is running adn that the socket: '/var/run//mysql/mysql.sock/ exitsts" [20:53] so i want to check to see if myslqd is running [20:53] AEnima1577 : chown -R mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql [20:53] then start mysqld [20:54] ok [20:54] starting mysqld daemon with datases from /var/lib/mysql [20:54] k now set your passwword [20:55] the daemon is taking a good while to start [20:55] jsut hit enter [20:55] its always like that [20:56] error: 'access denied for user root @ localhouse using password: NO [20:57] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] mysqladmin -u root password your-db-password-here [20:58] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:58] rc.mysqld has instructions for setup [20:58] Okay, fixed my problem. It seems there were are libs which google earth uses from it's install directory and overrides the system libs. Moving the offending 4 libs to lib*.bak and allowing google earth to use the system libs fixed the problem. [20:59] all qt libs [21:00] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) joined ##slackware. [21:00] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) left ##slackware. [21:01] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] sweet [21:03] so lets try this i have the sqld running [21:03] how can i attempt to check and see what is going on with it [21:03] ? [21:04] toastytoast: honestly, i prefer the original logo [21:05] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:06] hi, anyone here play nethack in slackware 13 or 12.x ? [21:06] i have nothing wrong witht he orginal slackware logo [21:07] unless you eman the one i linked [21:07] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.22.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:08] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [21:08] toastytoast: did you see my comment about the corner of the right angle on your logo? [21:09] yeha i did [21:09] http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3408/slackwarelogobig.png is what i did to it [21:10] it's easier to read now [21:11] do you liek that one better or his one tho http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/5606/slackwarelogobig2.png [21:11] I would make the line brighter though [21:11] i... like the one that doesn't look over the top [21:11] thanks anyhow [21:11] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:12] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:14] the brights on the GNU/Linux part should also match the brightness of the SLACKWARE part [21:14] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:14] it looks a bit grey [21:14] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.233.70) joined ##slackware. [21:15] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left ##slackware. [21:21] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.18.92) joined ##slackware. [21:21] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.233.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30DBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [21:23] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:27] how can one reload php.ini? [21:27] i have edited the file, and my settings hacent changed [21:28] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-144-45.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] heya,slackers..how's all? [21:28] hey MLanden, how's it going? [21:28] AEnima1577: restart apache [21:28] good fire|bird thanks...yourself? [21:29] MLanden: great, thank you. :) [21:30] hiya fire|bird, MLanden:) how are you guys tonight? [21:30] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.71.8.219) joined ##slackware. [21:30] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] doin' good thanks hitest...yourself? [21:31] MLanden: I am very well, ty:) [21:32] heya hitest, doing great here. you? [21:32] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Iam very good here, fire|bird, thank you:) [21:35] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A7425D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:36] imlost (i=looker@tornado.ktu.lt) joined ##slackware. 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Rebooted again and booted fine, however now sound doesn't seem to be working. if I open alsamixer all the channels are at max volume and I can't change the volume on any of them. tried running alsaconfig but i'm kind [21:40] fs___: any buzz from the connections? [21:41] MLanden: doesn't sound like it. I'd expect quite a bit of background noise through my headphones from full, but can't make anything out [21:41] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] fs___: Is the computer seeing the soundcard/chip? [21:42] MLanden: there might be something there actually, very quiet though. fans on the pc making it a bit hard [21:42] Mlanden: yeah the sound card module is loaded [21:43] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:44] fs___: What's the soundcard/chip? [21:44] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.18.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:44] Mlanden: C-Media CMI8738 [21:45] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [21:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:48] fs___: Can you reseat it in another slot? [21:49] MLanden: yeah could do. You think there might be an issue with the PCI slot? [21:50] fs___: could be....check in dmesg and see if the kernel gave it a -5 error..had an older CMI card give one [21:50] Nick change: aiiiiiii -> petrich [21:51] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [21:51] from google labs: "go" programming language http://golang.org - described as "a new programming language that's python meets c++" [21:52] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-93-201-114.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:53] MLanden: cant see any errors around the area where the sound card is [21:53] MLanden: i'll give moving the card around a go anyway. can't hurt [21:54] fs___: good luck...hopefully,the card hasn't gone bad [21:54] MLanden: thanks a lot. appreciate the help =) [21:54] fs___: In dmesg,any other errors? [21:55] fs___: np [21:56] MLanden: nothing that looks major, there was a error which was probably quite relevant after i first rebooted.. i didn't pay much attention to it though, just rebooted.. All i remember was it had something to do with a card not responding or something like that [21:56] Mlanden: curse my lack of attention at the time [21:57] fs___: try dmesg | less...let's ya scroll with the wheel...:D [21:57] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-37-216.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] Mlanden: ACPI Warning (tbutils-0242): Incorrect checksum in table [OEMB] - 51, should be 42 [20081204] [21:59] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:00] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.82) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] MLanden: ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU1._PDC] (Node f7010150), AE_INVALID_TABLE_LENGTH [22:04] MLanden: ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU2._PDC] (Node f70101e0), AE_INVALID_TABLE_LENGTH [22:04] use a fucking pastebin [22:04] and like, choose a nick that doesnt require _________ [22:04] and like, rage less. [22:05] i'm hung over and grumpy [22:05] i noticed. [22:05] I'm here for some help, cause i'm having a crap day. so keep it to yourself [22:06] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207-237-64-142.c3-0.80w-ubr6.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware. [22:07] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] MLanden: only those few related to ACPI. might go give swapping the card around a go and see if that does anything [22:08] fs___: errors from the bios....could try booting with acpi=off [22:08] so do it properly, and use a pastebin [22:09] MLanden: alright, would that have any negative effects on anything else? [22:09] fs___: dunno [22:10] MLanden: sweet as. will go have a play around with those things and see if I can get it going [22:10] MLanden: thanks for your help =) much appreciated [22:10] fs___: np [22:11] fs___ (n=fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [22:16] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [22:20] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:36] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-230-121.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:42] Nick change: petrich -> aiiiiiii [22:48] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-70-170.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "!" [22:53] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:56] night all [22:56] night,hitest [22:56] night hitest [22:56] night MLanden, fire|bird [22:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:57] hi again. anyone know how to set the default font dpi for just a regular x session with no window manager? [22:57] opening a terminal on another x display has the effect of tiny fonts [23:00] Guest63614 (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [23:04] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [23:05] mrselfpwn: Where's the font path pointing to? [23:05] mrselfpwn: -dpi i think [23:06] Action: wollw uses "startx -- -dpi 96" to start x [23:06] wollw: thanks, i'll try that [23:07] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-114-196.cia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:07] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-146.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] or for virtual-console login via vga= in lilo.conf iirc [23:12] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.71.8.219) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:15] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-244-106-206.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:19] darylc (n=dc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:22] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.25.119) joined ##slackware. [23:23] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:24] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:26] Bleh... [23:26] Not that easy finding good slackware blogs [23:27] o_o [23:27] http://planet.slackadelic.com [23:27] teehee [23:27] latest post is about a bicycle [23:27] But, okay, i scrolled down [23:27] =P [23:28] redtricycle: yeah Imagine that some people (ie me) have other interest that just slackware. :P [23:28] Noo!! [23:28] wife > slackware [23:29] cats > slackware [23:34] ggy_china (n=ggy@58.244.132.218) joined ##slackware. [23:34] slackware > slackware [23:34] ok done. enough of that. it's finished. [23:34] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-114-196.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:35] divide by zero, sucka [23:35] slackware > finished [23:37] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:40] TwinReverb: got your priorities mixed up there. [23:40] slackware should come before your wife. [23:40] :) [23:42] I'm having trouble getting my NFS server to allow access [23:42] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:42] spook, not hardly [23:42] I keep getting the old "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting" [23:42] wife has boobs, slackware does not [23:42] my slackware had boobs [23:42] I upgradeded [23:42] moha__ (n=mohaa@188.115.65.202) joined ##slackware. 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[23:53] spook, you do it [23:53] spook: ... using a mushroom and a magical snake ;) [23:53] hehehe [23:54] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] 20 GB windows partition -> 4.9GB backup (ntfsclone + compress) [23:56] only stuff that norton ghost has done forever :P [23:56] yeah but this is free 8-) [23:57] yeah. [23:57] there are some cool things ghost can do, i should look for free stuff that does the same [23:58] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.83.103) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] --- Wed Nov 11 2009