[00:00] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [00:00] firedix_ (n=firedix@host126.201-252-136.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] persilon (n=ariel@11-172-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [00:01] hi everyone :) [00:01] ahoy [00:02] I've just upgraded to slackware 13 but I'm having certain performance issues with X [00:02] intel driver... [00:02] has anybody else experienced low performance using intel cards with X ? [00:03] persilon: I'm wondering about that myself. I see my fluxbox sometimes blink, never saw that behavior before. I didn't know what it was yet. [00:03] persilon: it's actually why I am installing the .31 kernel right now [00:04] I've compiled kernel 2.6.30.5 myself but I'm still having low performance on desktop usage [00:04] like when I tab between terminals I see a flash. Don't know yet if its fluxbox, kernel intel driver or what [00:04] corvo_ (n=corvo@187.58.250.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:04] I truly don't know if it's kde4 or X, but I'm pretty sure it's an X thing [00:07] don't know either. brb, rebooting [00:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [00:08] XAA/EXA are elimanated with the newer kernels,right? [00:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:09] Wasn't EXA the new thing? [00:10] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:10] think so..or the next step of acceleration,ccfreak2k for the intel [00:11] mentr (n=Hey@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] persilon (n=ariel@11-172-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] http://www.crookedbrains.net/2009/02/air-conditioner.html [00:15] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-138-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:15] No house in my area has and A/C unit but just 10 miles inland they all have them [00:16] I like not hearing all those crappy pumps buzzing [00:17] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:45b) joined ##slackware. [00:17] antiwire, it is abnormal to not have a/c where I live [00:18] in fact people die in the summertime without it [00:18] you would suffer to an extreme degree without a/c here [00:18] my parents live inland and they have A/C [00:18] tino27 (n=Tino27@node247.37.251.72.1dial.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] I have a heater ;) [00:18] i probably wouldn't be able to run seti@home either [00:19] I have 33,000btu window unit that is a gift from god [00:19] takes four men to move [00:21] heh what a nice little utility mkfs is :D [00:21] twolf: Australia? [00:21] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:21] MLanden: kansas [00:22] MLanden: you're pretty close [00:22] haha [00:22] good Baum reference,antler [00:23] The hottest it has been here so far this summer is 96F and on that day I just go in the ocean all day long [00:23] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas" [00:23] MLanden: haven't seen you for a while. thought you took the highway to heaven [00:24] me...neh...stick with AC/DC and goin' with the other highway...lol [00:24] s/stick/stickin' [00:24] bijit (n=chatzill@201.199.157.186) joined ##slackware. [00:24] definitely. we salute you. [00:24] whats a good network diagram draw program? [00:25] dia [00:25] I have a crayon, a piece of paper, and a scanner [00:25] there's even a utility somewhere that maps your network and uses dia to diagram it [00:25] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "bbl" [00:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] :D [00:25] godling: still on crayons? I moved up to sharpies :) [00:25] lol godling [00:26] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [00:26] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:26] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] Does anyone use a small form factor x86 system as a router? [00:29] I used to use a 486 as a router and it was kind of tiny [00:31] Irssi: Pasting 26 lines to ##slackware. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel. <---- wow hahahah [00:31] geode board when I was working my last job - used OWRT code on it [00:31] antler: and slackboy would LOVE you for it :) [00:31] alisonken1home: The Geodes are mips? [00:31] alisonken1home: :) yeah i dunno what i clicked [00:31] x86 [00:31] whoa [00:32] SO they could run Slackware? [00:32] so* [00:32] Action: fire|bird hits antler over the head with Ctrl-K :) [00:32] the only problem was the atheros drivers had issues with bridging (we used atheros mini-pci cards) [00:32] for the wireless side [00:32] This whole time I've thought the Geode was mips. [00:32] Ctrl-K-Line [00:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:32] lol [00:32] hey fire|bird some sweet looking themes for kde4, hey? [00:33] antiwire: could - but it would have to be cut down, and the owrt router code is usually better nw [00:33] nw/now [00:33] they just released 8.09.1 too [00:33] minor fixes [00:33] antler: yeah, there's getting to be some nice ones out there now. [00:33] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [00:33] fire|bird: they sure can make the bar at the bottom nice [00:33] antler: tragedy on kde-look.org is really nice. [00:33] antiwire: the fun part we had was using buildroot to cross compile x86 code on a x86_64 machine [00:33] lol [00:34] now *that* is hilarious [00:34] it took them about 6 months to get the buildroot compile working properly [00:34] once I started working on it [00:34] s/on it/with it/ [00:35] antiwire: you have to see how they abuse the makefiles in order to understand how the buildroot worked :) [00:35] fire|bird: yeah, nice but not functional for me. black gb and white text hurts my eyes :) [00:35] I've worked with the buildroot but only on x86 for mips [00:35] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:35] mipsel actually [00:36] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] yeah - once owrt buildroot is setup to work, it cross-compiles nicely with a lot of boards [00:36] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:37] antiwire: the geode is made by amd [00:37] yep [00:37] I'm checking them out now [00:37] fire|bird: lol cool i didn't know that hovering my mouse over the top left hand corner of my kde desktop does a cool little effect :D [00:37] I've used Avila from gateworks but I want an x86 setup for my main AP now [00:37] we liked it because of hardware encryption support [00:37] alisonken1home: any idea why atheros was having issues with bridging? [00:37] something quiet with mid range power [00:37] antler: haha, now you do. :) [00:38] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [00:38] Having an interesting issue [00:38] still em funkiness with new kernel. No idea what it is yet. [00:38] wm* [00:38] chopp: at least as of march this year it was due to the atheros driver and not having a good spec to work with the binary, along with the new kernel [00:38] I'm being told a library can't be found, but it exists! [00:38] chopp: My client is still associated, it has been this whole time with tcp/ip connectivity too. [00:38] This is great news. [00:39] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [00:39] Any ideas? The path is in ld.so.conf and I ran ldconfig [00:39] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:39] chopp: atheros is getting better about open source, but it still maintains the binary blob [00:39] antiwire: yeah it's been rock solid here with wireless-testing, and now with 2.6.31 and bridged also [00:39] Motoko-chan: compiling, or running? [00:39] Running [00:40] tino27 (n=Tino27@node247.37.251.72.1dial.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:40] liblcms.so.1 => not found [00:40] abnorma|off (n=abnorma_@79-175-88-235.adsl-a-1.sezampro.yu) left irc: Connection timed out [00:40] abnorma|off (n=abnorma_@79.175.88.235) joined ##slackware. [00:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:40] But [00:40] # locate liblcms.so.1 [00:40] /usr/lib64/liblcms.so.1 [00:40] Motoko-chan: run ldd on the binary - a library may be missing a dependent library [00:40] alisonken1home, see above [00:40] Motoko-chan: I saw [00:41] you may still want to run ldd on the list to make sure _all_ dependent libraries are installed [00:41] These are interesting but I'm worried about noise http://www.stealthcomputer.com/littlepc.htm [00:41] including on the librs [00:41] libs [00:41] that fanless thing is was to expensive [00:41] was/way [00:41] I ran across that issue once - ldd on the binary was good, but when ldd was run on the libs, there were missing dependent libraries on at least one lib [00:42] antiwire: let me know what you find with your router idea. I need to downsize what I'm using here. [00:42] what are you using now, chopp? [00:43] godling: Linux firewall 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [00:43] alisonken1home, http://paste.animeneko.net/31 [00:43] Hold on... [00:43] p4 hah [00:43] :P [00:43] Found my problem. [00:44] ELF 32-bit LSB executable [00:44] Yeah... [00:44] Action: Motoko-chan shoots ImageMagick [00:44] that can do it :) [00:44] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:44] antler: http://imagebin.org/63274 [00:45] godling: yeah I know. :P It's the only choice I had at the time going from a crap router, to a slack system. [00:45] chopp: just get an optical connection and a dual gigabit card and you can feed your whole neighborhood with that box ;) [00:45] haha [00:46] fire|bird: that's nice [00:46] fire|bird: pffft pidgeon [00:47] yeah, it is [00:47] antler: It's pidgin you insensitive clod. :P [00:48] lol [00:48] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [00:48] It's time to install that lame mini-pci adapter card into the system to test it [00:48] last time it caused endless kernel panics [00:49] get the marshmellows and stick ready [00:49] lol [00:49] fire|bird: pidgeon/pidgin - what's a couple of vowels among friends :) [00:49] mmm smores [00:50] fire|bird: btw, did you see that 2.6.2 is released now? [00:50] alisonken1home: Well, on the Wheel of Fortune, 2 vowels are $500 :P [00:50] fire|bird: :) [00:51] alisonken1home: So, there's a difference. :P [00:51] fire|bird: hahah [00:52] antler: So, where's your desktop? [00:52] Wow, make -j7 on 2.6.31 is MUCH faster. :D [00:52] hm compiling wine in slackware64 (with alien multilib) should I define arch="x86_64" and LIBDIRSUFFIX="64" too? [00:53] powtrix: libdirsuffix is different that arch [00:53] arch os target cpu, libdirsuffix is appended to where libraries are going to [00:53] antiwire: Umm, 2.6.2 of what? :P I've been busy with a bunch of other stuff lately. :/ [00:54] well, so the wine libs should be go on standard lib dir and not lib64? [00:54] probably pidgin fire|bird [00:54] antiwire: have you built it yet? [00:54] Oh, :P, didn't think of that. No I hadn't [00:54] bijit (n=chatzill@201.199.157.186) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [00:54] but now that I do, I will build it right now. :) [00:55] thanks [00:55] agentc0re: yeah [00:55] agentc0re: but the changelog didn't show much regarding our issues. I think the things we were seeing will be fixed with gst and farsight2 [00:56] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [00:56] antiwire: i agree. Probably more so with farsight2. [00:57] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] powtrix: /lib and /usr/lib are for 32-bit libraries - /lib64 and /usr/lib64 are for the 64-bit compiled libs [00:57] there, building now. :) [00:57] okay, i'll sheeple and build too. [00:58] but wont stay up for it to complete. [00:58] powtrix: so if wine is compiled as 32-bit, then it goes to /lib and /usr/lib - if it's compiled as 64-bit, then /lib64 and /usr/lib64 [00:58] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [00:59] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:59] wine itself is for 32-bit execs, so /lib /usr/lib is the right place? i understood about lib lib64 sets [00:59] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [00:59] as there is wine64 for 64-bit execs [01:00] powtrix: follow the bit-path :) [01:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIgYtUBx5ao [01:00] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:00] heh, whoops, forgot to disable the a/v stuff. :/ [01:01] fire|bird: ... you're not supposed to. [01:01] :P [01:01] agentc0re: I didn't build it in before [01:01] I don't use it [01:01] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [01:01] although it's showing I just need farsight. :/ [01:02] lol [01:02] fire|bird: did you grab dive's builds of everything? [01:02] fire|bird: If you don't want the AV stuff just use the configure options to stop the checks [01:03] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:03] agentc0re: nope [01:03] antiwire: yeah, I just need to add --disable-vv [01:03] thanks alisonken1home :) [01:03] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left irc: "leaving" [01:03] fire|bird: do you not have a cam and/or mic? [01:03] powtrix: np [01:04] agentc0re: I have a mic somewhere, no cam at all, I'd never use those features, so why build em in. :O [01:04] fire|bird: to talk with antiwire or me to see how well it works. :P [01:05] lol [01:05] fire|bird: or dive or hiptobecubic.... [01:05] we're the cool kids. [01:05] row-boooot-mahhannhhhaann [01:05] we kick ass and take names, on written paper. [01:05] that's how well it works ^^ [01:05] lol [01:05] wat? [01:05] LOL [01:05] hiptobecubic heard my voice clearly once [01:05] hiptobecubic: Sshhhh play along.. [01:05] so did dive and agentc0re..but only once [01:05] ah what the heck, it failed again now. [01:06] --disable-kitchen-sink [01:06] hahaha [01:06] --disable-bathroom-tub [01:06] antiwire: have any experiance with Via Mini-ITX boards? [01:06] chopp: nope, but they are part of target list [01:06] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.82.170) joined ##slackware. [01:06] -enable-toilet ... always wiser...:D [01:06] chopp: I have a jetway with a c7 vic cpu. [01:06] chopp: I'm going to go insane on this break down until i buy something [01:07] s/vic/via [01:07] config.sub missing argument. :/ [01:08] agentc0re: are you happy with it? [01:08] brb [01:08] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:08] chopp: it use to run my firewall... but my firewall app is a little intensive... and i upgraded. I've been meaning to reuse it as something else. For the most part it was great. [01:09] dioz_mio (i=freelove@88.241.136.204) left irc: [01:09] How to merge two partition on slackware? [01:09] antiwire: two boards (firewall/AP) in one 2U is my goal. [01:10] agentc0re: endian? [01:11] chopp: honestly ITX boards are great but i would stay away from the c7 cpu's. i upgraded to a jetway that has a amd cpu in it. can give you the link of that one if you want. it has been more than fantastic though. [01:11] chopp: no, i use Untangle. I use it at home because i use it at work.... kind of make myself the test bed sometimes. [01:12] obnauticus (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:12] agentc0re: yeah I can relate to that one sometimes. Thanks for the c7 advise. [01:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_the_Hairy [01:13] haha [01:13] really? [01:13] agentc0re: and a link would be awsome [01:13] chopp: They are nice, but nothing i'd use for any business. I could have made it work at home for what i do. [01:13] chopp: sure. one sec. [01:13] k [01:14] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:14] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] http://www.mini-box.com/VIA-Mini-ITX-Boards [01:15] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Do i need to be in group video for dri? [01:17] yes [01:17] ls -l /dev/dri/* [01:17] rworkman, thanks. [01:18] yw [01:18] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] chopp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107042 [01:19] chopp: that's what i have now. [01:20] agentc0re: thanks. Man the c7's are everywhere. [01:20] chopp: found this one, looks the same but cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107037 [01:20] ok [01:21] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:21] it's that card or the adapter. [01:21] damn it [01:21] chopp: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/j7f2we_1g5 and then i also go the 3x1G lan Daughter board to go along with it. [01:22] laptop works as an AP perfectly with my pcmcia card [01:22] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.18.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:22] chopp: that last link was my first one. [01:22] ABG [01:22] but the mini-pci card in a pci adapter crashes the tower [01:23] agentc0re: I'll be buying just boards though, as I want to put two in a 2U [01:23] similiar to these: http://shop.varia-store.com/product_info.php?info=p694_19--Dual-Rack-System-for-ALIX-2--ALIX-3-and-ALIX-6-boards.html [01:24] chopp: Oh, right. Well with the barebone you spend about $200 for both the board and PSU that will power the board. the ITX board by itself is already like $150 and then plus like $120 for the right PSU to power it's needs. [01:24] chopp: In the end... even though you wound up with a case, you still saved money. [01:24] or can at least. [01:25] antiwire: agentc0re yes I'd noticed that. Thanks for the links. [01:25] chopp: no prob man. Hope it helps. [01:26] antiwire: whats the mini-pci card? [01:26] brb.. 2.6.2 finished before i got to leave. :P [01:26] EMP-8602+S [01:26] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:26] I'm pretty sure the problem is the adapter and not the card itself [01:26] the adapter is a POS [01:28] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101075 [01:28] my pcard (which is also ABG) works fine [01:28] I want to modify that and put Slackware on it. [01:28] wb agentc0re [01:28] thanks. i'm on 2.6.2 now. [01:28] \o/ [01:28] I'm not. :/ [01:29] router with touchscreen :D [01:29] godling: to use as an media center? [01:29] ahh [01:29] brb liquor store run on the mountain bike! [01:29] hahaha [01:29] antiwire: buying for 308 people? :P [01:30] bring the beer hat [01:30] and point how you got there. [01:30] 307...we cut Quiznos off [01:30] chopp: good point [01:30] chopp: whois Quiznos? [01:30] ;) [01:30] agentc0re: Who ever he is, he no speak a english. :P [01:30] wu-nickcolor ftw [01:31] fire|bird: hehe. [01:31] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] chopp: It'd be nice if you could just /set wu-nickcolor Quiznos black :) [01:32] hehe, YES! i caught this one by mistake earlier because my scroll back was up half way. http://noobfarm.org/?id=1689 [01:33] how do I configure X to work on slackware 13.0, I cannot start X, the screen gets all different colored lines [01:33] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] agentc0re: hahaha, I seen that one earlier. :P [01:33] fire|bird: you that's also missyjane right? heheh [01:34] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:34] agentc0re: yeah, it is. :P [01:34] I cant find Xorg.conf [01:34] jalonso: the new xorg uses hal to configure the settings. [01:35] however you can use a xorg.conf. it goes and should exist in the same place it always has. /etc/X11/xorg [01:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:35] agentc0re: how do I configure it to work with my GeForce 6600GT card? [01:36] agentc0re: make that /etc/X11/xorg.conf :) [01:36] fire|bird: oh thanks.. [01:36] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] jalonso: xorgsetup can create a basic xorg.conf file for you. then you can either choose to use the open nvidia drivers (nv) or the closed source from nvidia (nvidia). [01:38] I think I like the default plasma theme better than any of ones on kde-look that I have seen [01:38] agentc0re: aha ok [01:38] okay, nite all. [01:38] night agentc0re thanks [01:38] oh and i'm placing bets antiwire crashes on the way back from the store. :P [01:38] haha [01:39] night agentc0re [01:39] hahaha [01:39] with a mere case of whiskey [01:40] aw that would suck [01:40] indeed [01:40] alcohol abuse :/ [01:41] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:41] especially if it were good whisky [01:42] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.134) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:43] back! [01:43] 1.5mi [01:43] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.82.170) left irc: Client Quit [01:43] total? [01:43] round trip [01:44] and I gots bushmills [01:44] yay! [01:45] my total distance for the last 7 days is about 35mi [01:45] back from the store... [01:45] I typed "whereis xorg.conf" after running xorgsetup and it told me that its in the usr/lib/ and usr/include directories, but not the etc/X11 dirs. [01:45] got kriek [01:45] antiwire: and did you crash like agentc0re predicted? :P [01:45] hell no [01:46] which of these directories should I look for the xorg file that can be edited to work with the openGL drivers? [01:46] haha [01:46] i even have a light [01:46] a bike headlight? [01:46] yeah [01:47] cool. Just the other day here in down, there was a few bike riders, no lights, no reflectors, no nothing. It's friggen hard to see them when it's dark outside. [01:47] it's insane to go out at night without no lights [01:47] antiwire: my mountain bike has been my main mode of transportation for awhile here myself. [01:47] yeah, for sure. [01:47] without lights** [01:48] chopp: It's the only way to justify going out to buy booze at 22:30 [01:48] lol [01:48] haha [01:48] to justify to whom? [01:49] here it's no booze after 2100 [01:49] that sucks [01:49] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] I predicted a case of whiskey, but remembered you're drinking beer only these days. :P [01:49] I just stick with the beer [01:49] it's 07:50 here and I just came back from getting 3 more beers [01:49] Well, I got whiskey but just a small one [01:50] small 26oz [01:50] lol [01:50] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:51] antiwire: did you see the systems agentc0re linked to? [01:51] yeah I'm checking them out now [01:51] you can do a lot of neat things with conky I like a lot [01:51] Action: byteframe decide's to try the new kernel 2.6.31 release. [01:52] main box, and laptop running 2.6.31. Good stuff. [01:53] what's better with 2.6.31 besides KMS if you happen to have a video card and userland that works with it? [01:53] look at the changelog, etc. and read for yourself. :) [01:53] a lot. [01:53] I did, nothing for me :s [01:54] no KMS for me yet :s [01:54] santa claus is late :s [01:54] KMS isn't the only change [01:54] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [01:54] I know [01:54] witukind, http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/05/161230 [01:54] I hope I can use kms for intel in new version (2.6.30.5 has suspend problems) [01:55] i want the ip [01:55] 2.6.30.5 ;) [01:55] !®·¹ÀÌ [01:55] ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ < ®·¹À;óÅ·Î Àü/ÇtôÙ! > [01:55] CK_MonkeyLord: fail. [01:55] what the hfll [01:55] CK_MonkeyLord: gesundheit [01:55] hell [01:56] he failed [01:56] byteframe, the desktop speedup I'm not sure I will see any difference, everything pops up instantly on my desktop [01:56] shiezer [01:56] And I wouldn't tolerate anything else ^^ [01:56] what [01:56] witukind, my slow laptop is a candiate; [01:56] have my cpu,hdd,gpu temps on it [01:56] it's just tray mode [01:56] CK_MonkeyLord: Hop aboard the fail train, car #1, destination, Failsville, NC. Enjoy the ride. :) [01:57] http://tinyurl.com/3ujq6k [01:57] lol [01:57] byteframe, mind you I don't have a 4 core, 4 gigs or RAM PC, just a lowly sempron 1.6ghz and ~700mb of RAM [01:58] witukind, 1.0 pentium-m [01:58] but it flies, after recompiling half of slackware [01:58] nice [01:58] I run gnome on this one. [01:58] xfce [01:59] !Àµ¿vÀÎ [01:59] ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ ##slackware ä³Î; Àµ¿vÀ¿¡ Ãð¡Çý4ôÙ. [01:59] dude [01:59] sorry but it's the client that i'm using [01:59] what the..... [02:00] I'd say that tray mode isn't working. :) [02:00] well stop using it then [02:00] So, switch to a difference client [02:00] hey dive [02:00] yo [02:00] anyone know what are the "Section Device" settings for a GeForce 6600GT?? [02:00] in Xorg.conf? [02:01] jalonso: You could just run X -configure to make a xorg.conf [02:01] you know what i'm tired of hearing about ? [02:01] linux users complaining about flash. [02:01] CaMiKaSe (n=CaMiKaSe@201-42-165-23.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:01] I'm tired about hearing linux users complaining about linux users complaining about flash [02:02] heh I came across a website told me to upgrade to flash 7 yesterday [02:02] antiwire, flash is filth [02:02] how long ago was that? [02:02] fire|bird: I did, and afterwards I typed " X -config /root/xorg.conf.new [02:02] " [02:02] and the screen went crazy again [02:02] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] Flash is the one single thing that brings my PC to a crawl [02:03] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-138-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:05] Flash is a pig. [02:05] Too many sites use it in poor ways. [02:06] like this http://www.miniclip.com/games/stunt-pilot/en/ [02:06] http://zombo.com/ [02:06] best use of flash EVER [02:06] :P [02:07] i like flash since it inspired the wonderful add-on: flashblock [02:08] hehe [02:08] how do I check if Samba is installed on my system? [02:08] which smbd [02:09] mancha: the one for slackware [02:09] oh ok [02:09] grep samba /var/log/packages/* [02:09] use pkgtool? :P [02:10] antiwire: I saw a bunch of dirs with samba name on it, I typed "service smbd start" but nothing happened [02:11] what are you trying to do? [02:11] jalonso, probably because it's /etc/rc.d/rc.samba start [02:11] jalonso, slackware doesn't have a 'service' [02:11] you asked how to tell if samba is installed, not how to start the service [02:11] antiwire: I'm trying to start the Samba server [02:12] antiwire: that's because I assumed I knew what I was doing :) [02:12] install fedora first, then you can service start [02:12] haha [02:13] Action: dive goes off to install some coffee [02:13] that reminds me... tea! [02:13] installpkg fedora-11-i486-1.tgz [02:14] jalonso: http://www.foogazi.com/2006/11/01/simple-samba-slackware-setup/ [02:14] dive: tried the command you posted and it seems to have worked [02:14] jalonso, go read some slackware docs. [02:14] get a yummy snack. [02:14] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:14] byteframe: godling: thats exactly what I was looking for! [02:15] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:15] exit [02:15] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:15] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:15] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:15] irc docs too [02:15] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:15] hah [02:15] :P [02:15] probably some young kid. [02:15] or just lazy [02:15] 3rd time lucky [02:16] hba (n=hba@189.188.153.117) left irc: "leaving" [02:16] jmonter (i=476ef2ac@gateway/web/freenode/x-rktqxlxposywejvg) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [02:17] I'd like to create a script and I need to cut files in /var/log/packages/* . I don't need the beginning of the file, but only since "./", can you help me to find the command ? [02:18] does anyone know what the problem could be. I am getting the following error when trying to run hp-toolbox [02:18] error: Unable to load Qt4 support, is it installed? [02:19] mase_wk (n=quassel@202-6-148-24.dsl.voice.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:19] you don't have qt4 [02:19] ? [02:19] I do [02:19] Thom1: look at dirname, basename, and cut [02:20] Thom1, are you wanting to list files in /var/log/packages/? [02:20] qt-r1008952 [02:20] ok ok, sorry for asking, i don't really know scripting. But i'll find [02:20] abnorma|off (n=abnorma_@79.175.88.235) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:20] dive, yes [02:20] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/ph [02:20] dive is scaring me [02:21] that should give you an idea [02:21] uses ls and awk [02:21] thanks dive, i go to watch [02:22] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-255-119.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:22] what th ehell is the vienna concept anyway? [02:24] it's the concept of schnitzel [02:26] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-7.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-rvflbufsdkyouuen) joined ##slackware. [02:27] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:28] judequinn (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [02:28] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:28] Nick change: judequinn -> usus12jari [02:29] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:45b) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [02:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.23) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.34.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:37] http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/fusion/LaserActiveTracking/smart_laser_demo.mpg [02:37] so cool [02:37] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.23) left irc: "Leaving" [02:37] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.23) joined ##slackware. [02:37] It's ET [02:38] OMG [02:38] et? [02:39] that alien guy from the movie.. [02:39] http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/movies/1980s/1982/reg/et-finger.jpg [02:39] ET phone home. :) [02:40] :P [02:40] FINALLY, pidgin is done building. [02:40] brb [02:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [02:40] wee [02:40] he's ircing with pidgin? [02:40] ugh [02:40] hehe [02:41] one benefit with it.. all chats in one client [02:41] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.34.136) joined ##slackware. [02:41] antiwire: where's ET? [02:42] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:43] You can't just scream out "alien!" and not say where you saw it [02:43] sumbamb (i=4b5559a8@gateway/web/freenode/x-tzkiqrfhozpmtdhd) joined ##slackware. [02:43] godling: ET went home [02:43] that's just rude [02:43] hey guys, how can i run a script thats on a remote server? [02:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [02:43] tewmten: what? [02:43] tewmten: no! [02:43] ET COME BACK! [02:43] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-067-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:43] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:44] sumbamb: ssh user@server /path/to/script [02:44] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:44] faster glxgears is new kernel. [02:44] I want to ask ET why his video game sucked so bad. [02:44] thx [02:45] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.34.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:45] Emeau-lap (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-71-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:45] \o/ 2.6.2 now. :) [02:45] godling: because spielberg ripped him off of his royalties [02:45] :S [02:46] folks, it's a shame but for some reason i forgot how to setup usbstick rw-access as user [02:46] jmonter (i=476ef2ac@gateway/web/freenode/x-rktqxlxposywejvg) left irc: "Page closed" [02:46] steven stealberg [02:46] i am member of hotplug so i can mount it (added group option to fstab) [02:46] antiwire: I ended up building it with the av stuff because it wouldn't build without it for some reason. :/ [02:46] s/hotplug/plugdev [02:47] i can read from but not write to the stick as a user [02:47] what fs on the usbstick? [02:47] ext3 [02:48] mount it with user,rw [02:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:48] seriously, ET sucked. [02:48] i'll try thanks [02:49] isn't rw the default anyway? [02:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [02:49] user/owner/group is only for mount privilege [02:49] yes [02:49] anyway i'll try...and with vfat too [02:50] why vfat, if it's ext3 [02:50] o_O [02:50] 2 sticks here. [02:50] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] only tried that ext3 for now [02:50] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:51] if i'm using g++ compiler a lot (writing a program) is it possible that it's getting clogged up or something? [02:51] because all of the suddan, my program is breaking at a simple cin [02:51] Reticenti: not really [02:51] ok [02:52] okay can you mount your ext3 thumbdrive, please? [02:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:52] welcome to my humble abode antiwire :) [02:53] Action: lf4 goes back to work. [02:53] why? [02:54] my system running 2.6.31 is panicking when I modprobe -r the driver for my USB wireless stick, rtl8187 [02:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:54] anyone else have one of those? [02:55] done...can't write on the stick [02:55] nope [02:55] now vfat [02:55] no, nobody on the entire planet antiwire ;P [02:55] can you chose me mount line for it? [02:55] type "mount" [02:55] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [02:56] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] hrm fvat is drwxrwxrwx, ext3 is not, think i got it [02:57] vfat [02:57] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:57] sumbamb (i=4b5559a8@gateway/web/freenode/x-tzkiqrfhozpmtdhd) left irc: "Page closed" [02:57] so wrong privs on the mount points? [02:57] no [02:58] erm yes kindof, question of the mount option [02:58] thats bad i thought one fstab line would do it for all usb storage [02:59] with different fs [02:59] Well, when fluxbox is configured, this looks great :) [02:59] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:00] other thing, anyone using virtualbox? [03:00] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:01] there are broken links on the channel blog [03:01] *weblog [03:01] is there a telnet server in slackware? or an rsh daemon, something that does not provide encryption? [03:01] yar [03:01] nc ftw [03:02] in.telnetd which is usually rune from the inet superserrver [03:02] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:03] /usr/sbin/in.telnetd [03:03] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:45d) joined ##slackware. [03:06] morn [03:06] slava_dp both [03:07] morn [03:07] as opposed to mourn - which is what I do for my sleep [03:07] which one is better, an rsh daemon or a telnet daemon? [03:07] (as in "missing such") [03:07] rsh [03:07] what do you want to do? [03:08] i want to leave florida already. [03:08] at least rsh is reasonably secure (especially if using ssh keys) whereas telnet is plain-text password challenge/response [03:08] i've got a vpn tunnel and i want a means to access the server on the other end of the tunnel without the additional encryption overhead. [03:08] so probably telnet will do. [03:08] telnet's fine then [03:08] if your vpn is already encrypted, then telnet may work since you type directly whereas rsh requires extra steps [03:10] what vpn framework do you use, btw? [03:11] i've finally set up openvpn for production yesterday. still testing though. [03:11] it's not very complicated to set up. [03:11] ah ok. open's nice - all around. if you don't mind non-standards-based [03:11] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] agris (n=agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:16] I've got OpenVPN going on my home server [03:16] http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs262.snc1/8931_149480742494_609247494_3341932_4788598_n.jpg [03:16] random lamp post in Amsterdam [03:16] .. :p [03:16] i've been looking for that button [03:16] hahaha [03:16] saw it yesterday when i was walking home from the shop [03:17] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [03:17] tewmten: did you press it? :P [03:17] no [03:18] there was another lamp post with a button, someone wrote "WTF?!" and an arrow [03:18] heh [03:18] thing is, this is just a lamp post in a park.. no idea why there's button on it [03:18] oh well [03:18] take that shit apart [03:18] people like to push things :) [03:18] GET IT [03:18] tru [03:18] quite nice pic for be taken with just my mobile phone also.. hm [03:18] don't push it!!! [03:18] but anyways i need a new phone [03:19] it's a digital obsession [03:19] this one is red, and im getting annoyed by people saying its gay [03:19] how common is English in Amsterdam? [03:19] godling: quite common [03:19] that's really good to know [03:19] why? planning to visit the city of whores, drugs and parties? [03:19] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [03:20] hehe [03:20] not on my current salary :P [03:20] i read in the newspaper yesterday the gov is making a sugestion to only allow coffeeshops to sell to people who live in the country [03:20] so tourists cant buy weed [03:21] interesting [03:21] so they can tax it. [03:21] ctrl ctrl ctrl. [03:21] they could tax it anyways [03:21] nods [03:21] isn't a retail sale a taxable sale regardless of who is buying it? [03:22] tewmten: set up a business where you act as a proxy for the tourists :D [03:22] antiwire: that was my point [03:22] and is food taxable there? [03:22] they tax it anyways [03:23] unprepared food? [03:23] at a supermarket? [03:23] tewmten: is the button to turn the light on? [03:23] no idea [03:23] i think it actually is for getting pussy [03:23] if you are to believe the writing, the "red" light [03:23] maybe it like, calls up a hoe [03:24] some lampposts detect motion [03:24] that would be fucking awesome [03:24] I mean, just as a concept [03:24] probably not so much in reality [03:25] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [03:25] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) joined ##slackware. [03:25] haha, woman wanted a baby, so she tried hiring cops to kidnap one for her: http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/09/police_say_brandy_marrie_badil.php [03:25] yep, a freaking tool irl :) [03:25] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-7.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:26] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-swtvejwuvujzseao) joined ##slackware. [03:26] greetings [03:26] hi [03:27] fire|bird: I have to wonder how some of these people have survived so long. [03:27] godling: yeah, no kidding. :P [03:29] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:30] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:32] CaMiKaSe (n=CaMiKaSe@201-42-165-23.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [03:33] survived? [03:33] darwin and all that lf4 [03:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.96) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:33] ahh ok [03:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.28) joined ##slackware. [03:34] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [03:35] lol [03:36] abnorma|off (n=abnorma_@77-105-4-54.adsl-4.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:41] are there any programs in a default 13.0 install to rip audio tracks from a cd? [03:42] ah, cdparanoia [03:45] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.18.39) joined ##slackware. [03:45] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:48] hello, i dont sound like an asshole asking this on this channel, but i have no alternative. how much could you charge for a windows 2008 server course of 20hrs for 5 people ? [03:49] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] josefig: teaching or attending? [03:50] teaching :X [03:50] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [03:51] $400/head [03:51] minimum of 1000 per person [03:51] lol [03:51] ok - special 1K person training $350/head [03:51] actually i don't like the idea of teaching windows 2008 server but well i have to eat :P [03:51] doh! [03:51] josefig: what is the topic? [03:52] is it general overview or hardcore boot camp? [03:52] installation, config/manage in basic level. [03:52] hardcore bootcamp should include a sledge hamer [03:52] getting into AD? [03:52] the manage roles, etc, etc. [03:52] what about migrations from previous versions? [03:52] is that covered? [03:53] antiwire, yes it is [03:53] is there hands on lab time with systems? [03:53] yep, we have lab time. [03:53] 1 for module [03:53] we've got 5 modules. [03:53] for a week long course like that I'd expect to pay 2500 total for myself to attend [03:53] min [03:53] maybe more [03:54] 2500USD ? [03:54] yeah [03:54] ok [03:54] i was expecting to earn 800usd per person min [03:54] even redhat boot camps with similar intent and goals are around that, if not more [03:55] oh ok [03:55] josefig: are there any others in your area doing boot camps? [03:55] check out the market [03:55] antiwire, nope. [03:56] the thing is that i'm not certified on 2008, only 2003 :X [03:57] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.208.48) joined ##slackware. [03:58] you're crazy! [03:58] josefig: you'd get sued here [04:00] :o http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox35.html#firefox3.5.3 [04:00] Dominus (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:00] CK_MonkeyLord (n=afasdfs@116.44.192.14) left irc: "Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ Ver 2.9G" [04:00] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest33252 [04:01] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) left ##slackware. [04:01] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:07] greetings, greetings, greetings [04:07] how are slackerians today? [04:08] sshhh. [04:08] antiwire: :( sorry :( [04:08] we're hunting croupiers [04:08] Action: The-Croupier hides [04:08] oh look, there's one now. [04:08] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-swtvejwuvujzseao) left ##slackware. [04:08] \o/ [04:08] got em [04:08] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-dapgrkirdacevjrt) joined ##slackware. [04:09] dang, just wounded em [04:09] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [04:10] hows things today guys..? [04:10] great =/ [04:10] im on an open source hunting in my city (athens) [04:10] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:10] trying to find seminars,societies,forums,blogs...etc...events... [04:11] Well, time to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [04:11] joined rss,forums,uni events so far...looks like its better than i thought after all [04:11] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] fire|bird: bb [04:11] greece eh.. [04:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:12] yeah [04:13] i checked the other day and we have the most cracked software in all europe... we are third in line after russia, and another courntry i dont remember [04:13] i dont socialise with the linux crowd in my city.. because i write code using microsoft technologies and know of 0 people that even use linux. i know theres a few lugs, one held at the Novell offices but never been there [04:13] yeah, i thought to give it a try [04:13] its always nice to know what is going on in your city [04:13] There is a LUG in my area but I've never gone. [04:13] you never know what you might find... [04:13] antiwire: lug? :( [04:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [04:15] lug = linux user group [04:15] siimo: thanks [04:16] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.18.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] the LUG near me kinda died off old men retired and fishing. so i used to drive 3hrs once a month but it started not being worth it [04:16] i didnt know of any till now... and today i know of at least 10, damn [04:17] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Husaini (i=husaini@2001:328:2002:ef19:0:0:0:1) left irc: "Leaving" [04:17] i really like when you can feel a sore throat comming on [04:17] the way you are putting all this, lug reminds me of alcoholic groups kind of thing... they became better and went fishing...lol [04:17] not [04:18] nix_chix0r: there is a solution for sore throat ;) [04:18] scratchy goodness [04:18] what's that? [04:19] lug schmug; i tried to build one when i was in Pennsy [04:19] if it involves sucking on a hose i can't do cause i'll most likely puike [04:19] Quiznos: ended up being a goat orgy or what? [04:20] morning :) [04:20] in a town with two fully acredited uni's and a community college a bus ride away [04:20] http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5885PM20090909?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews ^^ [04:20] no one was interested [04:20] nix_chix0r: it definately includes sucking but not on a hose [04:20] morning Camarade_Tux [04:20] The-Croupier, darn it [04:20] antiwire nop; it was a lug of one. me. [04:20] Camarade_Tux: yo yo yo [04:20] i'd like to enjoy digesting dinner a little longer [04:21] lol [04:21] nix_chix0r: what is darn? [04:21] sewing [04:21] darn a sock [04:21] to repair [04:21] nix_chix0r: so darn it, means shut up kind of thing [04:21] it's kinda like a sloppy mexican on a side but less effort [04:23] ... i mentioned that already here; unless y'all wanna here recycled events of my miniscule life :) [04:23] oh i got one; [04:23] Quiznos: no, dont do that, we like you so far [04:24] dont change our opinion [04:24] yesterday I went back to Target and bought a discontinued usb-hd [04:24] you have to try dont you [04:24] 60$ 320g [04:24] it's so tiny tho; and it has a night light too [04:26] nobody YACCs anymore [04:28] The-Croupier it's not the same as speaking with someone face to face [04:28] IRC? [04:28] IRC is crack for the introverted. [04:28] we all know it. [04:28] not being able to use or see facial clues makes communication diffuicult [04:28] nods [04:30] Quiznos: nahhh not really :p [04:30] you got that or shall i repost? [04:30] :P [04:30] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [04:30] google is down [04:30] and back. [04:30] repost what? [04:30] i didnt do anything , im innocent [04:30] yea [04:32] Husaini (i=husaini@2001:328:2002:ef19:0:0:0:1) joined ##slackware. [04:34] i just compression bandaged my heal, it's hurting bad now [04:34] it was almost better but twisted on top of it when I stepped out of my truck today [04:34] what happened to your heal? [04:35] I fell into a hole while i was walking out into the ocean [04:35] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [04:35] the water was only knee high and there was a hole [04:36] oh [04:36] you could steep your foot in hot water; thatll calm the nerves [04:36] the compression bandage is helping [04:36] maybe this would sound funny, but it definately works! old people use it in various places in greece [04:37] get some onion, and cut it in 4 pieces, than put some salt in it, and get a cloth to wrap it up the place that hurts you [04:38] now: that works when you have twisted anything in your body ;) [04:38] guaranted,!!! [04:38] it will hurt like hell, but again, that means that its working ;) [04:39] Husaini (i=husaini@2001:328:2002:ef19:0:0:0:1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:39] no need to get drugs or painkillers, and in 2days you will forget that you twisted anything [04:40] Husaini (i=husaini@2001:328:2002:ef19:0:0:0:1) joined ##slackware. [04:41] Nick change: Husaini -> Guest47401 [04:42] well, eating a hot pepper or two would help too [04:42] provides internal pain relief [04:42] capaszin [04:42] Channel flood from Quiznos -- kicking [04:42] (sp?) [04:42] or crushed red pepper (pizza variety) [04:42] Quiznos kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [04:42] anyone here know much about cpu frequency scaling on linux [04:42] My buddy the colenol does.. [04:42] ahem: colonel [04:42] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] and my my neighbour [04:43] slackboy bs [04:43] slackboy for teh win [04:46] Zordrak: slackboy unforgivable isnt he.... [04:47] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:47] i wish he was a little more flexible ;) :p [04:47] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [04:48] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:53] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:55] are the /who and /whois services working? [04:56] Flawlessly as usual: [04:56] 09:56:31 [FreeNode] -!- Quiznos [i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] [04:56] 09:56:31 [FreeNode] -!- ircname : * I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc * [04:57] seem to work for me [04:58] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:59] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [04:59] reallove (i=reallove@free-shell.eu) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Nick change: reallove -> Guest3515 [05:00] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) left ##slackware. [05:09] j0z (n=JESUS@201.22.28.189.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:09] Action: quasar yawns [05:09] : anyone know how to rid of that hard drive ticking sound that happens repeatedly on laptops [05:10] roof test [05:10] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:10] siimo: how high is your roof? [05:10] lol [05:10] o.o [05:10] stop the rattling, guaranteed. [05:11] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-138-107.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [05:12] hello,,,mind if i listen for a while..? [05:13] The seagate I put in my macbook made sounds like that, I just assumed it was hte heads self-parking when the OS told it to shut down. It was barely audible so I just let it go. The WD that's in there now doesn't make any sound at all despite being a 7200rpm [05:14] do you want it to make sound? I know how to do that, too. :D [05:14] siimo that's not a good signal, the hd ticking [05:14] IMO backup [05:14] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.23) left irc: "Leaving" [05:14] Quiznos: fail [05:14] Quiznos: There should ALWAYS be a backup [05:15] of course; it's a reminder. [05:15] that's not fail [05:15] godling: silence annoys nme [05:15] Quiznos: its a bug in linux [05:16] Anyone who loses data due to a lack of a backup suffers at the hands of Darwinism and should be allowed to fail [05:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 [05:16] i dont know if slackware has that patch [05:17] mmm backups [05:18] LSD`: how high is your roof? [05:18] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:18] :D [05:20] siimo prove it pls? [05:20] then there are those of us who have systems that they dont back up because they just dont care.. such as me with this windows machine right here [05:22] quasar: windows machines are usually not worth backing up [05:22] waste of time [05:22] Quiznos: prove what [05:23] The-Croupier: I have linux machines that I dont back up either [05:23] nm [05:23] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [05:23] quasar: :D well, seems like you dont have anything important [05:24] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.169) joined ##slackware. [05:24] i would be really pissed off if my laptop got screwed up, i do have backups, but i hate having to reconfigure everything from scratch [05:25] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] The-Croupier: when you have 13 computers in your house (3 of them for business) you tend to not care about some of them as much as others.. the ones that have _important_ data get backed up.. the others can get fucked and I could care less.. [05:26] quasar: 13 computers?!!! damn man... thats not a house that is a lab/business [05:26] quasar, did you by any chance install them on friday? :p [05:26] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [05:26] slava_dp: lol [05:26] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:26] the only thing with 13 in my house is slackware :p [05:26] slava_dp: sometimes it feels like it [05:26] 12 out of 13 of them run slackware :) [05:27] quasar: nice [05:27] well that is great [05:27] quasar: that is why you dont need backups...;) you run slackware on it ;) [05:27] lol [05:28] Q: usr/ports has dirs of dirs to segregate and manage files; like slackware/source; is that the prefered method of dirtree building? what about when remaking a subdir or specific package? [05:28] quasar, how do your family members go with slackware? [05:28] slava_dp: what family members? [05:28] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: "l8r" [05:29] quasar, those that use the computers [05:29] quasar: maybe a stupid question but why on earth do you need 13 pcs in your house? [05:29] only family member that has been here in the last month was my younger sister.. she came down when she was on break.. I showed her KDE 4.3 and she wants it on her personal computer [05:29] alex3 (n=a1g@66-191-162-023.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:29] slava_dp: i bet they are all his [05:29] quasar: why so many pcs in one place? [05:30] The-Croupier: most of them are systems that I built in the past.. they haven't died or did die due to something small like a hard drive.. over time I've just kept them running [05:30] heaters [05:30] shelves [05:30] k, i take it they run out of your laziness to take them down :D [05:30] Action: quasar doesn't like the idea of throwing out good hardware [05:30] legs for shelves [05:31] JDif (n=jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] Quiznos: lol [05:31] something to use the hammer on when get pissed off [05:31] :) [05:31] quasar: how many do you actually use? [05:31] gotta use braces to connect shelves to computers tho [05:31] so they dont wobble [05:31] on a daily basis? [05:32] well yeah [05:32] 5 [05:32] i suppose you can use one at a time, with one pair of hands [05:32] quasar sneaker net or telnet? [05:32] Quiznos: ssh via touching mouse/keyboard [05:33] can't get much more secure than that! [05:33] with encryp? what fer? it's lan [05:33] [/incredulity] [05:33] actually, it's not all lan.. 3 of them that I use on a daily basis are on a seperate network [05:33] the other two are sitting right here [05:33] from what? [05:34] i have only one small laptop, which i love...have formatted it once in the past year.. for the fun of it.. ;) [05:34] anyway; i wanna be the first node on aCentauri [05:34] Action: The-Croupier feels bad, no money for better hardware [05:34] recycling is good The [05:34] recycling is good The-Croupier [05:34] check Craig's list for your area [05:35] Quiznos: i agree, but i have nothing to recycle... i have nothing in the first place let alone recycle [05:35] Quiznos: the 3 that I have for business, aren't -my- computers.. just like this internet (business cable) connection isn't -my- connection.. it's the buisness that I work for that owns them [05:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425673.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:35] i have only my laptop and my limited knowledge [05:35] no, not you; to get hw from others. [05:35] quasar ah. kool. remote sv at home. nice [05:36] Quiznos: whatdo you mean to get hardware from others? [05:36] you mean they are cheaper? [05:36] to get hw from others who are disposing of theirs [05:36] they could be free too [05:36] sky_1 (n=user@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) joined ##slackware. [05:36] ohh i see [05:36] hi i want ask a silly question. Is Slackware harder to install and manipulate with him ? [05:36] Quiznos: its more probable to win the national lottery than greek people recycling, let alone free ;) [05:36] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.44) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:37] sky_1: he prefers it when you capitalize the H [05:37] sky_1: him?! [05:37] alex3 (n=a1g@66-191-162-023.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) left irc: "l8r" [05:37] quasar: lol [05:37] sky_1: and pray first, before installing [05:37] one of the few redeeming things about the town i lived in up in Pennsylvania was that people were always putting their unwanted hw on the curb; i was always finding hw to bring home; books too, kitchen stuff. [05:37] i think i saw a prayer somewhere online for it [05:37] The-Croupier you lose nothing by checking. [05:37] hah better will be to try it first ^^ [05:38] sky_1: NO, dont [05:38] google for slackware install prayer [05:38] ? [05:38] google first [05:38] also, check the irc topic [05:38] by typing /topic and read the wiki, slackbook ;) lots of info in the topic [05:39] ill try thanks [05:39] sky_1: read this as well: http://www.technozen.com/manifesto.htm [05:40] if you want to use slackware read the manifesto ;) i believe its a must [05:40] i know it [05:40] oh yeah? show me the handshake then. [05:40] and the secret password [05:41] -_- [05:41] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:45d) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:41] quasar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40w3G8szK0 [05:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:42] here is the handshake for you ;) [05:42] I'm not into threesomes :\ [05:42] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-128.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [05:42] quasar: damn, :( [05:43] psypete (n=psypete@li62-9.members.linode.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:44] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:44] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:44] ross` (n=ross@67.52.47.70) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:44] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [05:44] .. 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[05:50] but i stoped eating bad food [05:50] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:50] Guest47401 (i=husaini@2001:328:2002:ef19:0:0:0:1) left irc: "Leaving" [05:51] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [05:52] "ah ah, dood looks like a lady" [05:53] missyjane's ehre? [05:53] heh [05:53] !afaik [05:55] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-226-101.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:55] Action: quasar sighs at windows firewall [05:55] its trying to block 192.168.0.1 [05:56] heh [05:56] alex3 (n=a1g@66.191.162.23) left irc: "l8r" [05:58] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [05:59] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] quasar: a chunky purge? [05:59] godling: one with lots of carrots [06:00] LSD`: I don't eat carrots. [06:00] or shortly after eating a dairy product [06:00] godling: doesn't matter, puke somehow always ends up with carrots in it :P [06:00] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-67-61.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:01] mmm donuts [06:04] interesting... there's a "ratemyvomit" site [06:08] quasar: lovely [06:10] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] slackware is getting really nasty these days... [06:16] how? [06:17] very pictural, imagination is in a peak, and descriptions are real time, and free [06:17] too bad there is nothing to do with the topic.. :p [06:19] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: [06:20] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-153-36-67.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:22] JDif (n=jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [06:22] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:23] quiet, quiet , quiet [06:24] abnorma|off (n=abnorma_@77-105-4-54.adsl-4.sezampro.yu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:27] damnit, I keep thinking about donuts. I am walking to the donut shop. :P [06:28] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:28] good morning [06:29] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) joined ##slackware. [06:29] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) left irc: Client Quit [06:29] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) joined ##slackware. [06:30] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [06:34] grazymax (n=grazymax@host234-25-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:39] DebiEA (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [06:45] surrealgirl, good [06:46] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.11) joined ##slackware. [06:47] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-162-84-120-247.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:49] hi jane [06:49] did someone highlight me [06:49] no [06:49] i dont have pgup on my phon [06:50] /lastlog is your friend [06:50] tewmten: they did [06:52] oh just that guy who fucked up his multilib by not blacklisting gcc [06:52] DHarry (n=dirtyhar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [06:55] hehe [06:55] m00ltilib [06:56] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [06:56] he followed a guide properly got it multilib properly then updated gcc using slackpkg [07:02] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] oahong (n=user@122.225.61.173) joined ##slackware. [07:02] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [07:05] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.11) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:19] geoffro (n=geoffro@121.44.112.49) joined ##slackware. [07:20] hi all, is there a way to stop a nic from starting automagically on boot??? [07:21] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.208.48) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:21] geoffro: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 is the script that does the magic [07:21] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:21] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) left irc: Client Quit [07:21] Zordrak: so there is no way to specify in the rc.inet1.conf file to not boot auto [07:21] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) joined ##slackware. [07:21] i dont know OTOMH.. but if there is, youll find out in rc.inet1 [07:23] firedix (n=firedix@host126.201-252-136.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:23] Might want to disable it in udev. [07:23] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-178-81.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:23] rob0: ++ [07:24] if i disabled it in udev would i still be able to start it up later? [07:25] oh by the way can i just say "how freaking awesome is slackware 13 :)" [07:25] geoffro: you only want to prevent it from getting an IP address? [07:26] um ... why not? If you're root, of course, you can load a module. [07:26] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.10.155) joined ##slackware. [07:26] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [07:27] alienBOB: yeah basically i have my laptop with a wired and wireless nic. and don't want them to start automatically... to increase boot speed [07:27] >.< [07:27] If you want to leave an interface unconfigured just make sure that you have both IPADDR[x] and USE_DHCP[x] set to empty values, i.e. "" [07:27] Or put comment characters in front, # [07:27] geoffro: for a laptop, you can try wicd alternatively, it is in Slackware's /extra directory [07:28] ok thanks i'll have a look [07:29] i was planning at a later stage to write some sort of network manager to start eth0 or wlan0 if something is plugged in or one of my wireless networks was in range [07:34] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-rvflbufsdkyouuen) left irc: [07:34] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:34] geoffro: that would be a waste of effort. The wicd can do all of that [07:35] thanks for your help guys, i've made a change to the base rc.M script to start only lo [07:35] alienBOB: yeah i realised that as soon as i had a look at the website :D [07:35] very happy less work for me :) [07:35] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tknaahkmcxjgmotg) joined ##slackware. [07:36] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [07:38] brb just testing out my scripting changes [07:38] geoffro (n=geoffro@121.44.112.49) left irc: "Leaving" [07:38] raw (i=raw@howaboutyou.showusyourteetees.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:40] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Rint (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-112-49.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] yay it worked!! [07:42] geoffro, now go and install wicd [07:43] haha yep thats on my list of things to do [07:47] heh, i just downloaded slack13 dvd and found out that Pat forgot to erase announce_12.2 on it, so it sits there happily besides announce_13.0 :-) [07:49] I hate colours! [07:50] westol (n=bnguyen@118.71.144.53) joined ##slackware. [07:50] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:51] hey guys, just trying to set privoxy with tor...no way! It says Info: No logfile configured. Please enable it before reporting any problems. [07:51] pidgin has no sound on my slackware 13. anyone have the same problem? [07:52] westol: you need the gstreamer wav plugin [07:52] search SBo for gst-plugins-good [07:53] can i install kernel-2.6.30.5 along with the stock 2.6.29.6 ? or do i have to upgrade it? [07:54] I think the README in there even recommends using installpkg [07:54] ktnx :) [07:54] use whichever [07:54] set lilo up for both if you like [07:54] does anybody know when the slackbook ver 3 is going to be ready? [07:54] geoffro: when its ready [07:54] mm, the only ones I wouldn't run installpkg on would be the kernel-headers [07:54] Zordrak: ok, thanks. [07:55] i'm not upgrading kernel-headers. i won't be compiling anything on this machine. [07:55] Zordrak: so no estimates then :P [07:55] slava_dp: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-current/testing/packages/linux-2.6.30.5/README_FIRST.TXT [07:56] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] thrice`, i know, i have the dvd in the drive. already read that :) [07:57] will migrate the room server here to 13 next week. it's on 12.1 still. [07:57] Action: slava_dp likes new shiny stuff *_* \o\ /o/ \o/ [07:59] caio (n=caio@200.2.124.206) joined ##slackware. [08:00] :) [08:00] i'm back. yay donuts! [08:00] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [08:02] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.10.155) left irc: "Leaving" [08:03] on my slackware 13, the touchpad does not have full functionality. double-hit does not mean a mouse click. i have to use the button to following links. on slack 12, it worked out of the box! anyone can help? my laptop model is acer 5570z. [08:04] westol: For future reference: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=132 [08:05] westol: regarding the touchpad, you will need to find out what the touchpad device is and then make sure HAL loads the right driver for it [08:06] if you're using a synaptic driver the utility is called synclient [08:06] weston, you need to provide hal with your devices .fdi [08:06] I bet it's a Synaptics, yes. [08:07] rob0: yes [08:07] synaptics is common? I haven't had many laptops. [08:08] see /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse , I think you want to comment or remove that file [08:08] Action: slava_dp has a synaptics [08:08] commented out in 13 by default > rob0 [08:08] dioz_mio (i=test@88.242.160.15) joined ##slackware. [08:08] argh.. Background: #FFF, Links: #00F, Text: #000 --- What colour to use for table backgrounds? [08:08] ah [08:08] yep, it should be commented, but the tap-to-click is not enabled by default [08:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:09] yay for that [08:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-34-32-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:10] ahah [08:10] F4F4FF [08:10] hi all [08:11] livebrai1 (n=200mg@87.196.87.165) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:11] is it possible to run a graphic application via ssh, and make that application continue running even the remote ssh connection is closed ? [08:11] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.112.203) joined ##slackware. [08:11] you want to set TapButton1, 2 etc [08:11] morning clan :-) [08:12] morning macavity [08:12] yoyo paissad-hp [08:12] paissad-hp: only if you use a proxy system like NX server, or VNC server. Then you can leave your graphical session running after you disconnect [08:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Action: macavity looks into NX servers [08:13] neatx? [08:13] alienBOB, without using a vnc server i prefer [08:14] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.216.107) joined ##slackware. [08:16] paissad-hp: use screen? [08:16] paissad-hp: unless youre actually forwarding the X using the ssh session [08:17] Zordrak, i've used screen, but that works only for apps limited to console, not for those using X [08:17] for example, that work for htop, but not for firefox [08:17] .. should be fine if youre starting it from inside screen.. [08:18] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:18] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [08:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.216.107) left irc: Client Quit [08:18] yeah.. it works [08:18] oh man.. reading about X stuff always confuses the shit out of me :P [08:18] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.216.107) joined ##slackware. [08:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-174-90.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:18] hello [08:18] the client is the server and the server is the client.. *unless* the client is the client and the server is the server [08:18] ... any questions? [08:19] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:19] macavity: 2.6.31 seems to give my intel card a little boost [08:19] macavity: yes: where is the baker's wife? [08:19] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:19] where's the missing dollar? [08:19] can't you just export DISPLAY=host:0.0 from inside screen? [08:20] Camarade_Tux: spread out inside 10000 jelly rolls (you ate one of them yesterday) [08:20] thrice`: good to hear, i hadnt come that far yet [08:21] mancha: in the back pocket of your favorite jeans.. they are in the washing machine right now [08:21] macavity: it tasted great! [08:21] Three weary traveller arive at a hotel. they decide to share a room which costs 25 bucks, they check in and give the bellhop each a $10 since $25 doesn't divide evenly. the bellhop gets change and gives them each back $1 (since $5 doesn't split evenly he keeps $2!) [08:21] Camarade_Tux: bakers wife jelly has always been teh shit [08:22] now, each pair $9, 3 x $9 = $27 plus the $2 that the bellhop keps is $29. Where's the missing dollar? [08:22] macavity: saw sweeney tood? [08:22] Camarade_Tux: what? [08:22] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Client Quit [08:23] each pair= each paid [08:23] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [08:23] mancha: oh, the old factorisation joke? [08:23] grazymax (n=grazymax@host234-25-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:23] hi [08:23] macavity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeney_Todd [08:23] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Zordrak, did you say that you started an app using X via ssh+screen ... and that same app using X continue running even after you closed ssh remote connection ? [08:23] and the recent film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeney_Todd:_The_Demon_Barber_of_Fleet_Street_(film) [08:24] Zordrak, onto the server [08:24] 1 [08:24] paissad-hp: yes [08:24] Camarade_Tux: i jsut got up.. ill read it later [08:24] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Client Quit [08:24] Zordrak, hmm, i check again, maybe i was wrong somewhere, hope that work [08:24] it should [08:25] who is serving these client, on this screen setup? [08:25] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [08:25] do you have ClearType in linux? [08:26] we have proper monitor adjustment? [08:26] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-112-49.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:26] not the same thing my friend [08:26] but no, no cleartype like you know it [08:26] main screen turn on [08:26] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-112-49.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-178-81.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [08:26] I started using ClearType, my life changed [08:27] so, go back to redmond and be happy [08:27] or figure out how to set up proper font antialising and pixel subhinting [08:27] you can get cleartypish rendering [08:27] because you will not find a nice and dandy GUI to let you just click Next untill everything looks sweet [08:28] mancha: so where is the extra dollar? :P [08:28] i don't get the screen+ssh way to keep X apps alive [08:28] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:29] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] Zordrak, hmm, here is what i did, --> ssh -X my_server_ip --> screen -S blabla ---> firefox & ---> ctrl a+d --> logout [08:30] and that does not work [08:30] firefox's closed [08:30] why would that work? [08:31] mancha, do you see what i want to do ? [08:31] you want to keep an X session alive even if you logout [08:32] 13:16:33 < Zordrak> paissad-hp: unless youre actually forwarding the X using the ssh session [08:32] and remotely use it [08:32] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [08:32] Zordrak, oh, ok .... how ? ..... ssh config file ? [08:32] a cheap solution is to run vnc (not X) on your remote. and then vnc in to it. another is to use nomachine's NX [08:33] paissad-hp: or use openvpn and forward X directly [08:33] how does a forwarded connection live beyond a logout? [08:35] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:36] Zordrak, x11Forwarding is enabled into /etc/ssh/ssh_config ... and then ? [08:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.197.52) joined ##slackware. [08:36] paissad-hp: and then you fail [08:36] lol [08:36] i guess .. [08:37] hm add rdp to the vnc/nx mix, thats another cheap solution [08:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.216.107) left irc: Connection timed out [08:40] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-112-49.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:41] westol (n=bnguyen@118.71.144.53) left irc: "leaving" [08:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:54] tuxloo (n=openbox@124.114.92.8) joined ##slackware. [08:55] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:56] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. 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[09:09] booohooo.. no SBo for nxagent :P [09:09] Action: macavity cries like a baby [09:09] john_dee (n=id@93-81-69-171.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:09] tried to install slack 13 on a encrypted lvm over a raid with boot partition on a removable drive and it didnt obey me hehe [09:10] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left ##slackware. [09:11] will this suit you? http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/freenx/ > macavity [09:12] I haven't installed 13. Any great reasons to upgrade from 12.2? [09:13] 64 bit [09:13] and kde4 by default [09:13] new kernel [09:13] and dev packages [09:13] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host197-69-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:13] they probably also have rpm's if you don't mind not compiling it yourself [09:14] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:14] nah but added .tkz files (as opposed to .tgz) [09:14] if i remember what i read correctly [09:14] or txz or something [09:14] lol [09:14] :D [09:15] oh the rpm wasnt about the slack 13 comment was it? [09:15] nope :> [09:15] > noobfarm :D [09:15] that would be embarrassing if i had any pride left after middle school :-) [09:16] can anyone tell me how to check if direct rendering is enabled in slackware 13? in earlier versions, it was necessary to run glxinfo | grep direct, and from the output you could see whether direct rendering was enabled or not [09:16] thats doesn't work anymore? [09:16] hi [09:16] no idea, if i knew shit id be USING slackware right now instead of just hanging out on its irc fan channel [09:17] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7124.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] v3gard: xvinfo [09:18] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:18] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [09:19] sitwon: could you give me an example output of xvinfo if direct rendering is enabled? I just ran that command on my computer (where I assume it is not enabled), and the output didn't make much sense [09:19] brb [09:20] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [09:20] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [09:20] v3gard: Run '/usr/bin/glinfo | grep -i renderer' [09:21] If it says "software rasterizer" then you don't have direct rendering. [09:26] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-131.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:28] adamk, you'll want to check direct rendering too [09:29] adamk, it isn't always the case that you have "Software Rasterizer" faking direct rendering [09:29] GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Radeon 20061018 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE NO-TCL [09:29] my laptop output [09:29] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.197.52) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:30] have you tried more han 4x accel? [09:30] *than [09:30] it still seems to take a lot of cpu unless it's because I'm using the default radeon kernel driver [09:30] alisonken1lap: You are using the r100 Mesa hardware driver. Which is correct. [09:30] mancha: old laptop :) [09:30] alisonken1home, on 2D it will still use a lot of CPU [09:31] try 'xcompmgr -a' while you're not gaming [09:31] see if that lowers CPU usage [09:31] (does for me with NVIDIA drivers) [09:31] using effects (cube and exploding windows) seems to take some cpu [09:31] after I'm done burning a cd [09:31] that's normal [09:31] those effects are client-side [09:32] that eye candy is only run just before the sreenshot to impress friends [09:32] client-side compositing effects suck donkeys [09:32] which is going to take a while at 4x burn rate [09:32] alisonken1lap: That's a relatively old GPU, too, isn't it? [09:32] 6y/o hp pavilion ze4610 [09:32] maybe older [09:33] AGP with no TCL. First generation radeon, from the look of things. Desktop effects are definitely going to hit the CPU. [09:34] yeah - thought it was something like that [09:34] alisonken1home, ditch desktop effects and use server-side compositing [09:34] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Hi all. [09:35] client-side compositing always hits the CPU at least partially [09:35] gpus have exploded recently, more than cpu's by far [09:36] NthDegree: 'xcompmgr -a' ? [09:36] so today's gpus make those from 6 years back seem like dinosaurs [09:37] NthDegree: By the way, the mesa software rasterizer will always show direct rendering. Ideally I'd have someone check for direct rendering *and* check the renderer string, but /usr/bin/glinfo on Slackware 13 doesn't seem to include the direct rendering option. [09:37] when I tested a live cd that came out a couple of years ago that was hilighting compiz, seemed pretty fast, but it had the ati driver for it [09:37] archimandritas (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Lil' question [09:38] alisonken1lap: If your GPU is a first generation radeon, it never used the driver from ATI. It may have used the open source 'radeon' driver which is what you are using now. [09:38] adamk, ah.. must be the norm now then... [09:38] Why can't I ssh any more to my favorite host after running netconfig? [09:39] netconfig does not delete my ssh keys: they are in the usual place, I see. [09:39] wow.. xrdb is black art :P [09:40] need to re-load your xresources? [09:40] eh? [09:41] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:41] ganeshix: is your ssh daemon running? can you ping your favorite host? [09:42] mancha: i am cheching out neatx [09:42] mancha: and it was listed as a requirement [09:42] cool! whats neatx [09:42] alisonken1lap, I can ssh my favorite host from another computer. [09:43] i thought you meant /usr/bin/xrdb [09:43] alisonken1lap, I can also use this computer (loki) to ssh other hosts, but not my favorite [09:43] can someone please give me a metalink for slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso ? [09:44] how about some details? does it hang? does it give an error message, etc? [09:44] alisonken1lap, the difference with my favorite host is: user authentication is disabled, so I depend on ssh keys only. [09:44] mancha: googles implementation of an NX server [09:44] So there is something that changed with my key authentication after running netconfig [09:44] but i am still missing a Free Software client :-/ [09:44] ganeshixthe possibility would be the server keys have changed [09:44] anyhow.. later [09:44] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.112.203) left irc: "leaving" [09:45] I know I had to rewrite my hosts file. But I don't know what I should do to make my ssh authentication work after netconfig [09:45] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-dapgrkirdacevjrt) left irc: "Page closed" [09:47] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-432648.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] moar details [09:49] moks107 (n=shim@82.194.48.97) left ##slackware. [09:50] openbox (n=openbox@124.114.92.8) joined ##slackware. [09:54] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Success [09:54] Emanon (n=Emanon@c-67-183-42-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [09:54] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [09:54] Hello slackers, in this days, I have more questions for the Linux users or developers. I usually download a film per day, usually I download for megaupload, in this month my ISP interrupt my conections whit a patron.... My response is masive trafic with wget to /dev/null, and the isp no cut my conections.... Is this bad for one mirror of slackware? [09:55] archimandritas (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] Hello [09:56] any there [09:56] hi [09:56] archimandrita: don't be stupid. if you want to play childish games with your isp, don't involve others [09:57] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-20-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:57] this traffic is bad for a mirror? [09:57] i did not even understand the question. [09:57] I was wondering too. [09:57] archimandrita: considering you're not using it for anything good, i suggest you don't [09:58] 2.6.31 was released if anyone cares. [09:58] the way i'm reading is he's upset with his isp cutting his 'movie downloads' [potentially illegal], and he wants to respond by generating a lot of useless traffic. he wants to pull from slackware mirror and pipe it to /dev/null\ [09:59] ok but yes [09:59] yes [09:59] lip6 [09:59] no, don't do that. bad archimandrita [09:59] So his response is to be an ass. [09:59] archimandrita: ISPs have more bandwidth and wouldn't even notice. [09:59] adamk: yep [09:59] in the process taking away bandwidth for people who want to legitimately acquire slackware from said mirror [09:59] And they might even cut you off for abuse. [10:00] if I generate trafic ISP dont cut my conection with megaupload [10:00] then wget -R someone else that does not need some USEFUL bandwith, for example erm... There are many [10:00] archimandrita: if you think someone at the ISP would care, I doubt it very much unless someone's really got nothing to do or had no sex in a long time and has got aggressive [10:01] just use a proxy archimandrita [10:01] Somebody using pastebinit there? [10:01] just use a torrent =/ [10:02] nheco (n=nheco@200-203-67-61.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [10:03] i never use a very smll minor kernel [10:03] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [10:04] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-90.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:04] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [10:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] thanks bye [10:05] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [10:05] nepenthe (n=ville@KDLXXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "quit" [10:06] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-lzbygacmnbyzfdnd) joined ##slackware. [10:06] it has some cool new memory leakage checkage coolness [10:09] mrselfpwn: my interest in .31 is when Pat will produce a config for it. I hate reading through kernel documentation on new feahures that i have little understanding of.. i enjoy letting Pat set me up a template which i can then modify as I need [10:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-174-90.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] until he (or the team) do(es).. im not too bothered about it [10:10] ah, seems ati/radeon has kernel mode setting now [10:10] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [10:10] yes :D [10:11] did you mean kmemleak? [10:11] I'm normally averse to compiling custom kernels, but I'm probably going to try .31 ... for ath5k master mode. [10:11] yes mancha [10:12] what is this modesetting fuss about? [10:12] mrself, yeah that looks pretty neat [10:12] ath5k works pretty well in .30, but i only need basic connection. [10:12] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:13] I use ath5k also. [10:13] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Oh I'm using ath5k in older kernels too, but only in managed mode. My AP is still using madwifi. [10:14] gsan (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] adamk_: you helped me a few days ago with my graphics problem. basically, by disabeling dri & dri2 in xorg.conf. remember? [10:16] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-lzbygacmnbyzfdnd) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [10:17] I have been using KMS (modesetting) on my Intel graphics card for a while now and it works great. [10:17] tuxloo (n=openbox@124.114.92.8) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:18] what is KMS (modesetting)? [10:18] gsan: Vaguely :-) I do remember giving that advise to a few people, actually. [10:19] kernel modesetting. the kernel grabs the video card directly on boot [10:19] ahh ok. this is just a follow-up. i compiled the 2.6.30.5 kernel today and tried it with dri dri2 enabled and it works fine. [10:19] gsan: You could try using the 2.6.30.* kernel in /testing [10:19] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:19] gsan: Oh, that works too :-) [10:20] Glad you got it working. [10:20] adamk_: could it mean that the problem was not with the driver itself but with the kernel drm modules? [10:20] gsan: The kernel DRM modules are part of the 3D driver. [10:21] gsan: By disabling DRI and DRI2 in your xorg.conf file, you disabled Xorg from loading/using the kernel modules. [10:22] adamk_: i see. so then the kernel modules is what was causing the trouble somehow [10:22] gsan: Yep. [10:22] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-llektbhodrqegrni) joined ##slackware. [10:22] anyway, i just wanted to follow up with that discovery of mine in case anybody else is in the same situation [10:22] gsan: What video card is this? [10:23] I wonder when Nvidia will get KMS [10:23] Intel 82865G [10:23] Does anyone have any experience with/preferences regarding Web-based file-browsers? [10:23] Cool. Thanks for the update. I'll remember (or try to) if I see anyone else on here with the same issue. [10:23] great [10:24] Zordrak, which one? [10:24] mrselfpwn: exactly [10:24] lol [10:24] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-233-86.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:25] I read your question wrong. :) [10:25] mrselfpwm: what do you mean by the kernel grabs the video cart directly on boot (with KMS modesetting)? [10:25] KMS works great in 2.6.31 here with intel. That's a first for me - KMS has never worked right. [10:25] awesome, I'm about to compile 2.6.31 [10:26] gsan: The DRM will handle all mode setting (resolution changes) instead of relying on the Xorg module. You get a nice framebuffer, including flicker free switching between console and X. [10:26] Though I didn't see much issue in 2.6.30.1 unless i missed something. [10:26] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:26] mrselfpwn: it's not worked here in any previous kernel. Well, not worked correctly - it was unusable [10:26] ahh [10:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@82.155.208.92) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:26] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [10:27] anyway, afk - work must be done [10:27] adamk_: so is it using like the DRM developped by 'Linux' instead of xorg? [10:28] gsan: No, the DRM is developed by one group of developers :-) It's just moving more functionality into the kernel modules. [10:29] mrselfpwn: at the mo.. i dont see many other options except phpXplorer [10:29] adamk_: ahh. is there some high-level tutorial where i can learn more about it? [10:29] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@wc4zo1he33.adsl.datanet.hu) left irc: "Leaving." [10:30] If you select it in the kernel it needs to be built in not as a module and you need to disable the normal framebuffer for your card as well. [10:30] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:30] mrselfpwn: actually, that's not strictly *required* [10:30] adamk_: so what adantages are there to move more functionality into the kernel? [10:30] Add an append in the kernel stanza (lilo.conf) for this: "i915.modeset=1" [10:31] (and boot with either "vga=normal" or "vga=extended") [10:31] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection timed out [10:31] The console will start as "normal|extended" but switch later [10:31] gsan: It allows for X to run without root level permissions, allows multiple users to have direct rendering in different X sessions, switching between X and the console (or other X sessions) seemlessly. [10:31] really afk now :) [10:32] Yes, that is correct rworkman! [10:32] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] I remember that option now. :0) [10:33] ymu277 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [10:33] adamk_: so why is it not enable as a default option? is it less compatible with different cards? [10:33] gsan: It's still under development. [10:33] New features don't get enabled by default till they have been solidly tested. [10:34] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] adamk_: ohhhh :) so will it become a prefered method once it is stable? [10:35] I'm not a developer, so I can't say anything with certainty but, yes, it will probably be enabled by default eventually. [10:35] JiMMyJaKAzz (n=waazzaab@206.162.161.156) joined ##slackware. [10:35] ok, great to know [10:35] lo all [10:36] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:36] gsan: it should be anyway. it seems much more optimized from my experience thus far. [10:36] question... is there a way to retrieve info of who users who accessed a file in the last 10 days? [10:37] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:38] mrselfpwm: i remember seeing that option when i was configuring for compiling the kernel. If I want to try it, what other setting do i need enabled/disabled? [10:39] mrselfpwm: or better yet, is there any doc online about enabling this option? [10:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:42] gsan: which intel card did you say you have? [10:42] 82865G [10:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] It isn't difficult, though yes there is a guide online. [10:43] nepenthe (n=ville@YYKMMMCCVII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:43] ok, i'll look for it [10:43] I think doing a google for "enable Intel kms in kernel" got me the results i needed. [10:44] great, i'll do just that. [10:44] I have a link in my bookmarks though I don't currently have access to them. [10:44] np [10:44] I haven't been following KMS at all. Anyone want to tell me what the advantages of it are? What problem does it supposedly fix? [10:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] I know it's a long shot though does anyone know who did the actual work on adding usb 3.0 in the new kernel? [10:45] adamk_: gsan: It allows for X to run without root level permissions, allows multiple users to have direct rendering in different X sessions, switching between X and the console (or other X sessions) seemlessly. [10:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:46] mrselfpwn: Just check the copyright notice on those files, or read the LKML archive. [10:48] okay thank you [10:50] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Connection timed out [10:50] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-432648.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:51] Wow, linux is the first OS with official USB 3.0 support. I didn't know that. [10:51] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:51] Alan_Hicks: reducing overhead; putting the job into the kernel [10:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:52] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting is pretty good [10:54] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:55] yht (n=yht@114.121.116.181) joined ##slackware. [10:55] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:56] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:20] so, not only do you want to use a 3rd party tool to update your system [11:21] you want it to do it by itself? [11:21] lol [11:21] Chakravanti (n=chunk@67.236.82.46) joined ##slackware. [11:21] yht (n=yht@114.121.25.182) joined ##slackware. [11:22] i know its not really necessary but would be nice...just wondering if anyone has heard of such a tool [11:23] slackpkg is what you should be using [11:24] ive always used slapt-get --upgrade to do this...just a gui junkie since i started using kde ;-) [11:24] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@189.58.6.71.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:25] it's just strange to use slapt-get, since Pat provides slackpkg as the official tool [11:25] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@189.58.6.71.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:25] just what im used to ... prob a bad habit from my backtrack days... [11:26] rogersman: Wouldn't you be better off using a distribution that excels at that auto update stuff. That kind of automation, imo, is not a strength of Slackware. (And many are thankful for that.) [11:27] I haven't seen *any* distro that offers auto-updating [11:27] i know, i know...i've tried a few distros in the past couple months but non run as stably (is that a word?) or as quickly as good ol' slacky [11:27] fedora has it for example...through kpackage [11:28] fedora still prompts you to push "yes" [11:28] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.28.177) joined ##slackware. [11:28] rogersman: what if it trys to update something you need to be in init one to perform? [11:29] thrice`: :) [11:31] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) joined ##slackware. [11:34] yht_ (n=yht@114.120.204.152) joined ##slackware. [11:34] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] yht (n=yht@114.121.25.182) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.82.111) joined ##slackware. [11:37] dirtyharry (n=dirtyhar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [11:39] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:39] moha__ (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) joined ##slackware. [11:42] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:43] moha__ (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) left irc: Client Quit [11:44] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) joined ##slackware. [11:44] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Hey guys, what is the easiest way to get Shockwave installed so that I can view videosw embedded in websites that require shockwave ? (running slackware 12.0) [11:52] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [11:53] moha__ (n=mohaa@89.16.15.14) joined ##slackware. [11:53] DHarry (n=dirtyhar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:53] bhaki1 (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) left irc: "Leaving." [11:54] bhaki (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) joined ##slackware. [11:54] bhaki (n=bhaki@220.227.219.98) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.33) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Shockwave? I've only ever installed Flash. [11:55] I don't think there is Shockwave support for linux [11:55] at least not native [11:56] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.82.111) left irc: Connection timed out [11:57] What's flash at one time "Shockwave Flash"? [11:58] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-218-222.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Flash, long ago, was called "animated gifs" :P [12:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] Nick change: init[3] -> init[1] [12:03] hrm [12:03] Well, this online training thing requires shockwave.. [12:03] hrm [12:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host81-152-53-179.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:04] paissad-hp (n=paissad@77.198.55.245) joined ##slackware. [12:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM [12:05] MrDusty: Install a program that allows you to further install Windows. Then use IE to do your work. [12:05] neologic (i=neologic@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [12:06] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] JiMMyJaKAzz (n=waazzaab@206.162.161.156) left irc: [12:06] gem_cat (n=GEM@207.119.1.246) joined ##slackware. [12:07] neologic (i=neologic@server1.bshellz.net) left ##slackware. [12:08] mr_patterson: ok [12:10] firedix (n=firedix@host126.201-252-136.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:11] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-067-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] gem_cat (n=GEM@207.119.1.246) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.105) left irc: No route to host [12:15] I am still having wifi probs - I somehow stumbled into a connection Monday so I know my hardware and drivers work - I just dont know what I did to get connected :( [12:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:16] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] antiwire! I was online for a few hours on Monday - now I cant figure out what I did [12:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [12:19] gem_cat: Did you turn off the wifi switch? [12:20] is not a laptop [12:20] What did you change or mess with? [12:21] I am getting an error from a set command which tells me something in my scripts is shuting down wlan0 before trying to connect [12:22] what is the exact error [12:23] user51 (n=hr@117.200.55.191) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Error for wireless request "Set Nickname" (8B1C): [12:24] I get that all the time but still connects [12:24] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:24] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-182-24.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] gem_cat: That's not stopping it from connecting [12:25] gem_cat: If it worked before, what did you change since then? [12:25] SET failed on devece wlan0; operation not supported [12:26] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:26] antiwire, I managed to get it up manually somehow - when it failed I reviewed my scripts to make sure they were exactly as advised [12:26] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] freealan (n=freealan@218.174.129.90) joined ##slackware. [12:27] I think I had a connection without supplicant [12:27] does running wpa_supplicant manually work still? [12:27] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:27] it churns thru but does not connect [12:28] It worked before, did you change anything on the AP or client since then? [12:29] gives error ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] Operation not supported [12:29] Nick change: moha__ -> mohaa [12:30] paissad_ (n=paissad@130.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] is that part of the original error you just posted? [12:30] I had login stuff in rc.inet1.conf (mixed advice) which I removed [12:30] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [12:31] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:31] antiwire, that is the output from wpa_supplicant - the previous was from rc.inet1 [12:31] without looking at wpa_supplicant.conf and rc.inet1.conf it's going to be difficult to figure this out [12:31] user51 (n=hr@117.200.55.191) left irc: "Leaving" [12:32] give me a minute to sneakernet them [12:32] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:34] nepenthe (n=ville@YYKMMMCCVII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "quit" [12:34] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:36] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [12:36] paissad-hp (n=paissad@77.198.55.245) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-067-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:38] macavity (i=55529287@gateway/web/freenode/x-sldcjziykovafvuz) joined ##slackware. [12:39] gdevening :-) [12:40] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-144-102.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:41] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:43] paissad_ (n=paissad@130.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] johndee (n=id@93-81-119-174.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] paissad-hp (n=paissad@130.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) joined ##slackware. [12:48] john_dee (n=id@93-81-69-171.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:48] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] antiwire, http://pastebin.com/d1c132f95 [12:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:51] yort (n=runrau@euskadi.es.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:52] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:52] random question: I'm trying to format an external hard disk; I created the partition with cfdisk, and formatted with mke2fs. For some reason, when I mount it on any of my linux machines, it is read-only for user accounts [12:52] Nick change: gemcat -> gem_cat [12:54] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:54] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:54] Nick change: gemcat -> gem_cat [12:54] gem_cat: how are you running wpa_supplicant during the test? [12:55] wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.cpnf [12:55] conf [12:56] wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is a little better :> [12:56] try: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [12:56] use -ddd so we see wtf is happening [12:57] oh my! :) [12:57] gem_cat: get ready to pastebin it all too [12:57] ALL [12:58] thrice`: is it me, or did TTM not make it into .31? [12:58] ok [12:58] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] is TTM used by anything anymore? [12:59] i thought gem covered everything [12:59] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) left ##slackware. [12:59] MrDusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:59] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:59] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] thrice`: uhm, the GEM API was supposed to be exported by the new TTM backend [13:01] thrice`: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjY3Ng [13:02] Emeau-lap (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-71-217.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:03] macavity: I didn't notice any new configuration options in oldconfig, anyway. I get much less tearing than 2.6.30.x, and X seems snappier [13:03] that much i've gathered [13:04] people report 50% speedup in openarena on 945 [13:04] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:05] sorry, the above link to phoronix was the wrong one [13:05] this is the relevant one: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzMxOA [13:05] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.28.177) joined ##slackware. [13:06] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-1-246.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] so my question is: did radeon KMS go with GEM, GEM-via-TTM or directly with TTM?!? [13:07] ah [13:07] silly me :P [13:07] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=771fe6b912fca54f03e8a72eb63058b582775362 [13:08] TTM got in [13:11] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) joined ##slackware. [13:11] johndee (n=id@93-81-119-174.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:11] this is all very good news for the free radeon driver [13:11] Greetings everyone. :) [13:12] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.28.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-10-11.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] antiwire, http://pastebin.com/d32d361e1 [13:13] glowing|turkey: hey buddy! :-) [13:13] macavity: My laptop uses the free radeon driver. :) [13:13] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-182-24.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:13] hahaha [13:13] hows life? [13:13] excellent, thanks. you? [13:13] doing great [13:14] just reading over the .31 release article at kernelnewbies [13:14] I've got 2.6.31 on both the desktop and laptop [13:14] gem_cat: does ps aux show another wpa_supplicant running already? [13:14] http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_31 [13:14] nice digest format :P [13:14] macavity: AP mode on ath5k is working well for me [13:14] in 2.6.31 [13:14] good! [13:15] i have two 54xx cards [13:15] I'm testing on a 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [13:15] time to kick the crap out of the linksys frap [13:16] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-10-11.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-10-11.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:17] gemcat: does ps aux show any other instances of wpa_supplicant running? [13:18] TTM is solely sponsored by WMware [13:18] * [13:18] VMware [13:18] antiwire, one instance seems to be running [13:19] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tknaahkmcxjgmotg) left irc: [13:19] right now one is running? [13:19] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-10-11.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:19] god. [13:20] this is a big pita [13:20] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [13:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:21] anyhow.. im hungry [13:22] l8r [13:22] macavity (i=55529287@gateway/web/freenode/x-sldcjziykovafvuz) left irc: "Page closed" [13:22] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.28.177) left irc: Client Quit [13:25] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:28] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-28-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[14:08] bind ^w next_window [14:08] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-6-158.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [14:11] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-7-43.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:11] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [14:15] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:15] mentr (n=Hey@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [14:17] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] anyone had any issues updating bash using slackpkg? I must be missing something simple here, but as soon as I update bash it fails miserably. All "/bin/bash: bad interpreter " errors. Bah! did I miss an upgrade doc somewhere? [14:18] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-182-24.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] SpacePlod: does it get marked executable? [14:19] Does it get placed in the right directory? [14:19] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [14:20] Is it 777 root:root ? [14:20] 755, that is. [14:20] Fluoxetine: yes. I checked all that. It's there, executable and with proper links in place. [14:21] I'm flummoxed. [14:21] Odd [14:21] I initially did the upgrade on a workstation (slack64) and it failed there. [14:21] then I moved to a vm and it failed there as well. [14:21] hmmm...that gives me a thought. [14:22] Thought are bad [14:22] very often...yes [14:23] ldd /bin/bash and see if it's missing a lib dependency or looking at the wrong lib (/lib v. /lib64) [14:23] alisonken1home: I'll try that...wait one. I just did a vm rollback to try something else. [14:23] For example, I thought I saw a putty ta, but it was actually a rhino with an AK47. [14:24] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Nice [14:27] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] ldd /bin/bash gives: -bash: /usr/bin/ldd: /usr/bin/bash: bad interpreter: no such file or directory [14:28] ls -l shows: /usr/bin/bash -> /bin/bash* [14:28] j0k3r_ (n=rddalcen@unaffiliated/j0k3r) joined ##slackware. [14:28] that's what it shows on my system [14:28] ehhh, that sounds bad and wrong [14:28] /bin/bash is there and is 0755 [14:28] can you run /bin/bash? [14:29] This is on a bone stock slack64 system [14:29] (by itself I mean) [14:29] Urchlay: no...same error [14:29] eh, were you trying to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit slackware? [14:30] no. This is from an md5'd dvd. the install goes fine NOTHING is changed or added. This is slackpkg update immediately after install (fresh) [14:30] how did you install your stock shacl64 system? [14:30] dvd [14:30] duh! slack64 (tired - need sleep) [14:30] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [14:31] hmm, what has slackpkg trying to update? [14:31] what was, I mean [14:31] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [14:31] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:32] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [14:32] the only things it should have been upgrading are seamonkey and seamonkey-solibs (that's all that's in 13.0/patches on ftp.slackware.com right now), which shouldn't have broken your bash [14:32] well, at first there are 6 or so pkgs, but bash was first in the list. [14:33] SpacePlod: which dvd? as far as I know, the _real_ dvd's haven't shipped yet (at least I haven't gotten my subscription in yet) [14:33] eh? Why would it want to update bash? [14:33] I deselected all but bash. [14:33] I mean, if your DVD is an official ISO image, it should be the same bash version that's on the FTP mirrors [14:33] agris (n=agris@85.254.193.149) joined ##slackware. [14:33] wtf? [14:34] oh for the love of everything holy... [14:34] alisonken1home: eh, the official DVD iso image exists, even if the actual DVDs haven't been pressed yet [14:34] yeah, it's a dvd iso [14:34] tetrixbr (n=c0a801a6@unaffiliated/tetrix) joined ##slackware. [14:34] but wait. [14:34] Action: Urchlay waits [14:34] Urchlay: I rsync with slackware.mirrors.tds.net and make my own while I'm waiting :) [14:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) joined ##slackware. [14:35] I think this is self inflicted. Like I said. I was missing something simple. [14:35] alisonken1home: I rsync, but don't have much use for an iso (only have one 64-bit machine, my primary desktop, so I just upgrade individual pkgs) [14:35] snearch (n=olaf@188.46.47.228) joined ##slackware. [14:36] SpacePlod: you used an old /etc/slackpkg/mirrors that still pointed to the 12.2 dir on the FTP server? [14:36] snearch (n=olaf@188.46.47.228) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:36] Urchlay: I actually rsync both slackware and slackware64 - for times like a couplle of weeks ago whenI upgraded the laptop [14:36] nope...even better than that. [14:37] I picked a f'ing mirror from "slackware 13.0" instead of "slackware64 13.0". EPIC F'ING FAIL [14:37] d'oh! [14:37] Urchlay: you tipped me off with your comment at 11:32 [14:37] you can probably fix it without too much trouble [14:38] tetrixbr (n=c0a801a6@unaffiliated/tetrix) left ##slackware. [14:38] yeah. now that I know what I did...I'm so used to keeping away from "current" that I FAILED to look for the "64". Dork [14:39] SpacePlod: well atleast most of the source should be the same. :) [14:39] you still have the DVD or at least the iso? mount it, mkdir /tmp/fixbash; cd /mnt/fixbash; tar xvf /mnt/cdrom/slackware/a/bash-*.t?z; cp bin/bash /bin/bash [14:40] whatever you do, don't exit your current bash session(s) and definitely don't reboot (probably not telling you anything you don't already know) [14:40] Yeah. I got it. Back up now. What a mess! [14:41] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@147.96.189.59) left irc: "Leaving" [14:41] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] could be worse, it was only bash. If you'd done glibc-solibs instead, you'd have a *real* mess [14:42] Now I can go back to hating the *&$^@* that decided to make xorg depend on HAL. Yeah...I know it can be disabled. But that does not make me hate it any less. [14:43] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) joined ##slackware. [14:43] I was sorta skeptical of the new HAL-flavored xorg, but it actually Just Works on the one box I've tried it on so far [14:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:44] no xorg.conf at all, it was smart enough to load the correct video driver, saw the trackpad as the correct model, detected LCD resolution OK, all that stuff [14:44] jekkt_ (n=jekkt@84.138.73.190) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Oh, it works out of the box here as well, but I live in a HAL disabled world. So I have to hope that X -configure works everytime (so far it has). [14:45] of course that's my old 2002-model laptop, it might not support the newest stuff all that great [14:45] not to be overly critical here but slackpkg sounds deficient [14:45] mancha: not if you read the comments section. Really. [14:46] Action: SpacePlod will avoid that mistake again. [14:46] mancha: it did what he told it to, he just told it something dumb [14:46] i still think that if picking the wrong target ruins the system then the program is deficient [14:46] it's rsync, and upgradepkg for me all the way. [14:46] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Ok now, the google search bar IS bigger, correct? [14:46] who makes slackpkg? [14:47] mancha: PiterPunk [14:47] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-115-183.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [14:48] mancha: is'nt that the same sort of thinking that leads to the root account being disabled? (not that anyone would do THAT). [14:48] you mean ubuntu's funny idea of security? [14:48] ah...is that what it is? [14:49] does pat share his slackbuilds? i can't seem to find them. [14:49] i guess my perspective is the minute you allow for something that automates to a large degree some system administration task you need to include some failsafes [14:49] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] yesyes, yes [14:49] where are they? [14:49] mancha: I suppose that's a healthy point of view. [14:50] in the sources directory. [14:50] the square peg should not fit in the round hole, and all that... [14:50] How can I get X to recognize keycodes above 255? [14:51] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@81.57.177.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] yesyes, ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/ [14:51] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [14:51] agris (n=agris@85.254.193.149) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [14:51] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware_source/x/x11/ but i see no one slackbuild file... [14:52] oh wait [14:52] im blind. nevermind [14:52] yort (n=runrau@euskadi.es.uwo.ca) left ##slackware. [14:53] bleah. Has anyone besides me tried to get nspluginwrapper + 32-bit flash10 plugin working on slackware64? [14:53] no 64 bit blob yet? [14:53] there is one, but it segfaults and murders my browser on many sites [14:53] jekkt_ (n=jekkt@84.138.73.190) left irc: "leaving" [14:54] its still pre-releas, right? [14:54] yeah [14:54] is it even beta yet? [14:54] hey unbearable|dirt [14:54] err, Urchlay [14:55] Urchlay: I've got nspluginwrapper + 32bit flash 10 on my laptop (which you had mentioned to try) and it's been working excellent. [14:55] pretension|cannibalized: what version of nspluginwrapper are you using? [14:56] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [14:56] I'll check. [14:56] Uber|Geekoids: Hi! [14:57] y0 mr_patterson [14:57] jekkt (n=jekkt@p548A7124.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:57] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-124-48.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [14:57] mr_patterson: you left yesterday before I posted this: http://imagebin.org/63234 :P [14:58] fire|bird: OMG That is funny LoL [14:58] using nspluginwrapper 1.2.2 here, and flash 10 won't work (I had to install a 32-bit seamonkey-solibs to get the .so deps for 32-bit libflashplayer.so, now ldd says it's fine, but nothing shows up in the browser...) [14:58] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:58] Nick change: nannes1 -> nannes [14:59] about:plugins shows: File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so, Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32 [14:59] fire|bird: I'll resize it to fit a DVD, print it off, and stick it on my actual Slackware DVD :D [14:59] oh, joy. Loud obnoxious people have just arrived here. [14:59] yht_ (n=yht@114.120.204.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:59] mr_patterson: awesome :) [14:59] Urchlay: Say my name! [14:59] mr_patterson: and, http://imagebin.org/63353 [15:00] beetlejuice! [15:00] fire|bird: Oh, that was the picture I asked for. That looks super clean... my style [15:00] fire|bird: Nice :) [15:00] worker22 (n=worker@a83-161-252-137.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Urchlay: Who is your daddy, and what does he do? [15:01] i have an off topic question but it's important. if you elope, can you have a wedding ceremony with vows etc? [15:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [15:01] HoldMyPocket: Yes, but only vows approved by the Elvis committee. [15:01] mr_patterson perfect! [15:01] Urchlay: 0.9.91.5 for nspluginwrapper [15:01] You might ask that question in #ubuntu. :) [15:02] HoldMyPocket: And that's only if an Elvis derivative marries you! [15:02] if you elop just hope the pop doesn't hang you from a roap and wash your mouth with soap while you grope [15:02] hahahaha [15:02] *elope, *pope [15:02] clearly having "e" issues [15:02] mancha: we already live together [15:02] Action: mr_patterson does killer rap beats in the back. [15:02] the point is, no one would know we were already married [15:02] the 'wedding' would only be so our families could be part of it [15:03] Don't include them. It's not worth it. :P [15:03] oh you're saying double wedding? [15:03] well have an 'official' thing at say a courthouse, then save up and throw a wedding a year later [15:03] Pixelized (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:03] anybody installed perls tk module in slack 13? [15:04] seems to fail alot of tests and not want to install without force?!?! [15:04] jgor (i=jgor@r74-192-150-204.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:04] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) left irc: Client Quit [15:04] did it need deps Pixel [15:05] mancha, of the top of your head you remember what? [15:05] well, as long as the wedding doesn't involve the registry office, then surely no one can check. unless the victor demands to see some kind of documentation, which surely won't happen. [15:06] the victor? It's a marriage, nobody wins, so nobody is the victor. :P [15:06] Pixel, say what? [15:06] fire|bird, how...poignant. [15:06] no one wins in a marriage hah [15:06] mancha I think i missread what you said [15:06] i am the victor! [15:06] think it was vicar? :) mayhaps [15:06] mancha, was that a question or comment (i thought you said did it, need deps lol) [15:06] as you've asked ##slackware about this wedding, we're now involved, and need compensation. we demand your first born be called Pat. [15:07] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:07] crazymentos (n=niet@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Or "Bob" [15:07] Pat Bob Howard [15:07] sounds good [15:07] haha [15:07] Pixel i was wondering if you needed some dependencies for TK.pm [15:07] i shall honor ##slackware by doing so [15:07] (yes vicar...) [15:07] Grinch (n=Gr1nch@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:07] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.156.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:07] mancha, well on all previous slacks I perl -MCPAN -eshell then install whatevermodule and no prob [15:08] how about doing it the pre-cpan way? [15:08] but install Tk starts compiles runs tests and fails alot of tests trying to find what it is [15:08] dl the tgz, untar, perl Makefile, make, make test, etc [15:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] cpan -i whatever::module is even easier [15:09] I am setting up my slackware 13.0 box as a PDC using samba, but do I need to set up DNS before I can enable user logons? [15:09] fire|bird: hm. I didn't have any better results with 0.9.91.5 + flash 10 either [15:09] Pixelized: if tests fail, but they're not essential, just force it with 'install -f' [15:09] manknow (n=root@unaffiliated/hugleo) joined ##slackware. [15:09] hi [15:10] fire|bird: either version of nspluginwrapper works fine with flash 9 [15:10] ananke, i was thinking that but [15:10] are there a net-snmp package to slackware 13.0 with lm_sensors support? [15:10] ananke, never failed in slack 12 or 12.2 for me [15:10] ananke, and on my slack 12 my perl tk script works flawlessly and on slack 12.2 it leaks memory lol [15:10] ahhh the joys of perl/tk [15:11] cpan says the chance of passing all tests is 65% for TK [15:11] jalonso (n=jalonso@c-98-212-124-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] HoldMyPocket: anyway, why two weddings? i figure you've knockered her up and want to get married, fast, lest fear the wrath of the pope. [15:12] I seem to have lost my up-to-date copy of flash player 9 for linux, dammit, they hide it pretty well on their site too [15:12] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:12] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:12] What's wrong with v.10? [15:12] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) left irc: Connection timed out [15:13] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [15:13] mentr (n=Hey@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] mancha, which is true on slack 12 and 12.2 it failed some tests but still installed without force [15:13] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] mr_patterson: well, the 64-bit flash10 plugin segfaults and murders my browser. The 32-bit one doesn't seem to work with nspluginwrapper (no crashes, but I get nothing in the browser where the flash applet should appear) [15:13] I'd try to run latest. Lots of attacks for old versions. [15:13] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Motoko-chan: at this point I'm just trying to reinstall the latest release of v9, cause it actually works for me [15:14] Nick change: crazymentos -> mentr [15:14] hi all! [15:14] Urchlay: Good to know. I haven't tried to install it for 64 yet. [15:14] ananke, I guess force install tk [15:14] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:15] Pixel, is that how you write your X apps (mini apps, widgets, whatev)? [15:15] mr_patterson: well, the 64-bit native flash10 plugin seems to work for everyone but me and fire|bird, and we haven't been able to figure out why [15:15] yht_ (n=yht@114.121.23.186) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Urchlay: Hmm, I don't know. It's working fine here with that nspluginwrapper version and flash 10 32bit. [15:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Urchlay: yeah, that's odd that everyone but ours works fine. :P [15:15] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [15:16] hi, somebody can help me with hald? [15:16] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:16] this won't start [15:16] yesyes: elope and keep it a secret until we can afford to have a wedding that we can involve the families in [15:16] Nick change: alien_bob -> alienBOB [15:17] after the upgrade on Mon 7 [15:18] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [15:18] hald don't start anymore [15:18] Urchlay: I had tried everything to before going the nspluginwrapper + 32bit flash route. I reinstalled FF, tried different video driver, etc. and none of that helped the 64bit flash issue we are having. [15:18] HoldMyPocket: but why not just wait? [15:18] yesyes: it's something we both want [15:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] fire|bird: the truly irritating thing here is that it give zero indication what the problem might possibly be. It just chokes & dies. [15:19] how do I get slapd (ldap server) on my slackbox? what package do I need, please? ('m running 12.0 at the moment) [15:20] Urchlay: yeah, exacly, it's quite random with very little/no helpful output [15:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [15:22] evening :) [15:22] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-182-24.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:22] y0 Camarade_Tux [15:23] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151) joined ##slackware. [15:23] yoyo fire|bird, how is it going? [15:24] fire|bird: the *really* annoying thing for me: 64-bit flash 10 *does* work fine with youtube. But it crashes on most other video sites... [15:24] mmlj4: no official package, AFAIK [15:24] mm [15:24] Camarade_Tux: excellent, thanks. you? [15:24] urchlay are u using flash from adobe or other compilled pkg? [15:24] Urchlay: yeah, same here, youtube was fine, but crashed on anything myspace, break.com, dailymotion.com worked, etc. [15:25] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: "leaving" [15:25] mentr (n=niet@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [15:25] ? [15:25] acidtripper: adobe [15:25] o [15:26] nobody else makes a flash plugin that's close to 100% functional (AFAIK, gnash is still 90% useless) [15:26] im using arch, but i havent tried on dialymotion [15:26] i will try lets see :S [15:26] fire|bird: fine, thanks :) [15:27] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.156.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [15:28] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-144-102.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] crazymentos (n=niet@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] chazbro (n=cbroam@70.234.180.250) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Nick change: crazymentos -> mentr [15:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [15:31] mancha, well I need something that access mysql and then displays some info changes some image [15:31] mancha, so far perl has done alot of things for me very well and some perl TK seems to work sorta well [15:32] good ol Perl/TK :) [15:33] have you looked at perl/GTK? [15:33] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [15:33] chazbro, no should I? [15:33] manknow (n=root@unaffiliated/hugleo) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:33] really improves the looks [15:33] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [15:33] chazbro, interesting [15:34] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:34] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:34] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:34] the clamav frontend clam/tk uses it [15:35] they should change the name [15:35] cuz they used to use perl/tk [15:35] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:36] yht_ (n=yht@114.121.23.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:36] livebrain (n=200mg@87.196.2.172) joined ##slackware. [15:37] archimandrita (n=pacus@83.173.146.151) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:37] this kde4 is very sleak but I feel sooo lost with it [15:38] Urchlay myspace is working forme [15:39] i saw pepsi adevertise [15:39] acidtripper: and you're using 64bit slack and 64bit flash? [15:39] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [15:39] 64bit Arhlinux 64bit flash [15:39] pacman version [15:39] not adobe one [15:39] heh... i've decided to just get xfce and leave kde4 out [15:40] chazbro, i'm starting to wonder 2 [15:40] seems 2 much snazzyness and memory gobbling [15:40] i hear a lot of ppl turn off compositing [15:40] plus the fact that It still from 4.0 to 4.2 doesn't seem to support dualhead right (except maybe it xinerama...ouach) [15:40] right now running kde4 plasma on one screen and have to run icewm on the other lol [15:40] it saves on resources while in kde4 [15:41] heh.. all i run is iceWM [15:41] worked flawlessly in 3.5 but seems it was a bug in 4.0 and aaron was talking about not having the time to fix it [15:41] minimal all the way baby :D [15:41] icewm is a bit 2 minimal for me [15:42] but I can appreciate it's usefullness on embedded and small memory systems [15:42] eye candy, die smandy [15:42] lxde fluxbox blackbox [15:42] seem like interestin alternatives [15:42] NicePics13 (n=Bob@i032071.gprs.dnafinland.fi) joined ##slackware. [15:42] I use to use afterstep and enlightment and fwm95 and what not but that was years ago [15:42] lxde & fluxbox are alright too [15:43] jwm is okay [15:43] puppy linux uses that [15:44] i prefer fluxbox & IceWM since there are things out there that you can run to help set them up [15:44] menumaker [15:44] icecc [15:44] i'm really thinking of switching to fluxbox on slack 13 [15:44] idesk for desktop icons [15:45] hum [15:45] those seem like they could make icewm a bit more liveable [15:45] menumaker builds the menu for you... you run the cli script and in minutes you've got a menu [15:46] brb [15:46] Pixelized (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:48] mase_wk (n=quassel@202-6-148-24.dsl.voice.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:48] Pixelized (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:48] humm xfce it is for now [15:49] gtk2-perl that's what clamTK uses [15:49] chazbro, thanks i'll look into that [15:49] hum could xfce be playing with typematic rate? [15:50] http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=131278 <== screenshots of clamTK [15:51] if you want to know more about gtk2-perl ===> http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net [15:51] chazbro, nice [15:52] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:52] hum now to get a taskbar on 2nd screen in xfce [15:53] you mean like a panel? [15:53] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [15:53] like in kde with the kmenu and all [15:54] i guess yeah [15:54] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70.13.182.24) joined ##slackware. [15:54] NicePics13 (n=Bob@i032071.gprs.dnafinland.fi) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] right click on the desktop and a menu should pop-up [15:54] go to settings [15:54] yeah went in there [15:55] only thing I could see was use submenus for the windows in each workspace that's about it [15:55] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] ummm... i gotta be in xfce to help... brb [15:55] chazbro (n=cbroam@70.234.180.250) left irc: "leaving" [15:56] i think i found it [15:56] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201.90.140.3) joined ##slackware. [15:57] dramz (n=dramz@174.81-166-32.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:57] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.92.171.34) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [16:02] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-70-234-180-250.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] hey there :D [16:05] ok now where were we? [16:05] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:05] Pixelized? [16:05] did you figure it out? [16:05] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [16:07] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.202.95.202) joined ##slackware. [16:07] o.o okay [16:08] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:09] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-29-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:09] sorry was afk [16:09] kpr (n=kpr@unaffiliated/kpr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:10] afk? [16:10] don't know that one [16:10] johnsmith (n=Billy@ip24-253-198-121.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] hey [16:10] nepenthe (n=ville@YMKDCCXLII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [16:11] hey [16:11] hey johnsmith :) [16:11] johnsmith (n=Billy@ip24-253-198-121.ok.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:11] johnsmith (n=Billy@ip24-253-198-121.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] johnsmith (n=Billy@ip24-253-198-121.ok.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:12] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Chakravanti, away from keyboard [16:12] ahh [16:13] Chakravanti? [16:13] who is Chakravanti? [16:13] sorry [16:13] autocompletion my fault [16:14] oh lol :D [16:14] chazbro, yeah you right click the panel and then u get [16:14] customize panel [16:14] yeah that will work too [16:14] err but doesn't create all the stuff [16:14] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:15] no you just add it to the panel [16:15] but you can make your panel reach all the way across [16:15] chazbro, doesn't show tasks that were minimized etc etc [16:16] nah I want 1 panel per desktop [16:16] just like I have desktop per screen [16:16] actually afk means something else -_- [16:16] the panel goes with all the desktops [16:16] mentr (n=niet@adsl-64-237-139-36.prtc.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] oh wait you have multiple screens [16:16] chazbro, on virtual screens yes [16:16] but not on dualheads [16:16] hmmm [16:17] Camarade_Tux, afk can mean many things [16:17] i've never had to deal with mutliple monitors [16:17] HAD to? Multiple monitors are great! [16:17] chazbro, been using them for many years worked very well in kde3 but in kde4 is seems broken from what i read [16:17] unless i use xinerama which I won't [16:18] but in anycase kde4 makes me feel like a n00b so I'll stick with something a bit more lightweight xfce for now [16:18] hmmm ... im just too poor for that kind of stuff [16:18] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.220) left irc: "Leaving." [16:18] chazbro, it's my work setup [16:18] can barely afford the hardware i got [16:18] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] Chakravanti: Hey! Long time no see. [16:20] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:1e5) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] when you right clicked on the panel, there was a choice to "Add New Item" [16:21] Chakravanti: Right click, then "Add New Item"? [16:21] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] Chakravanti? [16:21] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:21] why are ppl calling me Chakravanti [16:22] lol [16:22] lol [16:22] hahah [16:22] chazbro, yeah i'm adding the taskbar stuff to make it work [16:23] chazbro: mr_patterson just doesn't know how to tab complete right, he's received help in the past, but just can't kick the bad habit. :P [16:23] chazbro, task list and etc [16:23] And then there's fire|bird... [16:24] tab complete right? [16:24] mr_patterson: yup, I'm indescribable. :P [16:24] fire|bird: "...babble" is partly right, anyway. :P [16:24] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [16:24] hahahaha [16:25] never underestimate the bandwidth of a carrier pidgeon [16:25] mr_patterson: do i know you? [16:26] sorry havent had much sleep lately [16:26] so im not operating on full thrusters [16:26] Chakravanti: Yes, you do. And you know that you know. [16:26] Ok, that's getting old. [16:26] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [16:26] :P [16:26] lol here you go again [16:27] It's all because of Pixlar [16:27] mr_patterson: The first step is admitting you have a problem, you should know this by now. :P [16:27] lol fire|bird [16:27] acidchild (i=ash@septic.ziwall.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] fire|bird: Hi, I'm mr_patterson and I have a problem. [16:27] hahahaha [16:27] (in unison) Hello, mr_patterson [16:28] Hello Mr. Patterson :) [16:28] hello, mr_patterson [16:28] Action: deco kicks fire|bird and mr_patterson [16:28] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-152.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:28] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [16:28] welcome to bad habits anonymous [16:28] OUCH, now what in sam hill was that for? :P [16:29] Action: mr_patterson pastes deco to a car. [16:29] \o/ [16:29] fire|bird: for having a problem :P [16:29] I don't have a problem, he does ------> mr_patterson [16:29] Ah, denial. [16:29] and there she goes, mrs Robinson.... [16:29] fire|bird: That'll only make it worse. [16:30] lol [16:30] hey thumbs [16:30] fire|bird: hola [16:30] Action: chazbro hears the dinner bell [16:30] Action: deco goes back to lurking [16:31] time to eat :D [16:31] refuel th mind [16:31] deco: go back to learning php. :P [16:31] chazbro: You got your metaphors all mixed up. [16:33] But, all your base are belong to us. [16:33] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:33] all the thumbs are belong to me [16:33] All the birds are belong to me :) [16:34] dibs on the pigs [16:34] All the pigs are belong to Pig_Pen [16:34] The son are belong to mr_patter? [16:34] and the pens? What is mightier than the sword? (The pen is.) [16:35] unless its a pig pen [16:35] a pen can also be a place to hold things [16:35] rob0: Let's have a fight then, shall we? You find yourself and good pen, and I'll pick any old sword. [16:35] Action: deco obeys fire|bird [16:36] That actually is one of the dumbest sayings I've ever heard. [16:37] actually the keen mind is whats important [16:37] deco: As you should :) [16:37] Is your mind keen? [16:38] an idiot with a sword , and a genuis with a pen... who would win? [16:38] The idiot. [16:38] heh shows what you know [16:38] or rather what you don't know [16:39] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-134-239-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [16:41] holy FIRE and Damnation this food is HOT & SPICY [16:41] Action: chazbro runs to get a drink [16:41] I know enough to want to have a sword instead of a pen in a fight [16:41] bah [16:42] build something idiot proof god will just create a better idiot! [16:42] my moneys on the guy with the pen the idiot will probably end up stabbing himself with his own sword [16:42] john_dee (n=id@93.81.138.23) joined ##slackware. [16:43] who's the idiot? [16:43] nobody [16:43] Shhhh, you'll wake him up! [16:43] ;x [16:43] hypothetical [16:43] Hypothetically known as Alan_Hicks. [16:43] belive me, idiot is only a social role [16:44] ouch [16:44] an idiot with a sword , and a genuis with a pen... who would win? [16:44] depends [16:44] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [16:44] Action: rob0 gets his kicks from picking on Hicks! [16:44] where is a good place to put -dpi 120 at? it did not work in .xinitrc [16:44] so i do not have to keep typing in startx -- -dpi 120 [16:45] maybe you should set it in xorg.conf [16:46] cant beleive they want to do away with xorg.conf [16:46] chazbro, whaaaaa? [16:46] i'd rather have a text file i can edit [16:47] i am going to try it in /usr/bin/startx [16:47] yeah i hear the new incarnations of X wont have the xorg.conf file [16:47] chazbro, an they are gonna put all the config info in what? [16:47] xorg.conf will never go away. [16:47] There are no plans to make it go away. [16:47] i don't remember that far [16:47] that makes no sense [16:47] chazbro: by default, 13 doesn't have a xorg.conf, but you can use one if you want/need to. [16:48] the essens of nix's is the easily editable mostly all in /etc [16:48] The plans are to make it work as well as possible without an xorg.conf for as many people as possible, but to leave xorg.conf as an option. [16:48] nope, did not work [16:48] melk (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:48] going away from that might as well go ahead and shoot ourself in the foot with a bazooka and create a "Registry" [16:48] Pixelized: It's tied in with hal and maybe a few other things so that as much can be configured right automatically. [16:48] that makes sense [16:48] s/maybe// [16:49] by default load this if xorg.conf doesn't exist [16:49] but that's not getting rid of xorg.conf [16:49] mind you why do that [16:49] automatically never makes sence to me [16:49] just make startx check if /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist if not [16:49] X -configure [16:49] im all about keeping my choices open [16:49] And no one is removing those choices. [16:50] Pixelized: In a way it does that already, if there is a xorg.conf, it uses it, if there isn't, it detects things and does the best it can without one. [16:50] Where ever you read or heard that is just plain wrong. [16:51] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-148-99-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] doesnt compute with me... i'd rather just have software stay clean and use easily editted text files [16:51] Pig_Pen, Did you try Opition "DPI" "120" in the monitor section of your xorg.conf file? [16:51] working out of the box isn't simpler than text files? :) [16:52] You still can use the text files if you need to. [16:52] hey thrice` [16:52] unless it's wrong... [16:52] hi :) [16:52] heya fire|bird :P [16:52] heya Necos [16:52] I don't think I should ever have to create and hack a config file, just to have a GUI [16:52] Necos, you're alivith [16:52] thrice`, you're still alive ;( [16:52] sorta jeev [16:52] Grinch (n=Gr1nch@74-42-113-123.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] of course jeev [16:53] thrice`: agreed. I have to though, stupid nvidia card I have + DVI doesn't work without a xorg.conf :P [16:53] well i'd rather edit my xorg.conf and have things work the way i want them to [16:53] melk (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:53] and, even better, going home in 5 minutes :) [16:53] lol thrice` [16:53] nice [16:53] home to jeev's hot sister [16:53] no, adamk_ i had it in the serverflags section [16:53] chazbro: then do that and don't complain. :P [16:53] thrice`: jeev has a sister? poor girl. :P [16:54] Pig_Pen, Since DPIs apply to monitors, I think the monitor section is correct, but don't quote me on that. [16:54] Action: chazbro goes around stomping and throwing a hissy fit [16:54] hmmm [16:54] ok, let me give it a try [16:54] Action: Necos slaps chazbro for being a dumbass [16:54] >.> [16:54] Action: fire|bird directs chazbro to the corner for a time out. [16:54] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [16:54] Action: chazbro sits in the corner and sucks his thumb [16:55] Pig_Pen, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size.2FDPI [16:55] Action: fire|bird gives chazbro a bottle. :) [16:55] Pig_Pen, I have no idea how up-to-date that is, though. [16:55] Action: deco locks fire|bird in his cage [16:55] i dont have a sister you lamers [16:55] go up2date something. [16:55] deco: You can't, I burnt it to the ground. I WILL BE FREE. :) [16:55] fire|bird: ah yes i forget :P [16:56] jeev, you don't have to be embarassed of her [16:56] jeev: it's ok [16:56] nope, had no effect in xorg.conf [16:57] Pig_Pen, That wiki I linked to also suggested adding '-dpi 96' to the exec line in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc [16:58] Pig_Pen, Not sure if that config file even exists these days. [16:58] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [16:58] ok, thanks [16:59] Pig_Pen, If it doesn't exist, it might be worth trying to create it and see if it works. [16:59] Other than that, I'm out of ideas. I'd suggest asking on #xorg or the xorg mailing list. [16:59] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] oh... i searched Google Pig_Pen for your dpi problem [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-131.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] ppl have success in their video card setting of xorg.cong [17:01] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] course it maybe for only certain cards [17:01] did not work, i seen that before and tried it as ~/.xserverrc and that did not work either [17:02] Pig_Pen, How about using "xrandr --dpi 96" (or whatever value you want) once X is running? [17:03] i will if i forget to add it with startx [17:04] Nick change: Guest33252 -> SuN [17:04] I was just thinking you could add it to your ~/.xinitrc file and not have to deal with it when running 'startx'. [17:04] in the video card section chazbro? post a link that shows an example [17:04] otherside (n=othersid@146.9.31.39) left irc: [17:05] granted this is with arch linux... but its still dealing with xorg.conf [17:05] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=297912 [17:05] yeah, xorg.conf should be close enough [17:07] Action: quasar stabs random people. [17:08] then there's this from ubuntu: http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html [17:08] Action: fire|bird randomly stabs quasar [17:09] rworkman (i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: "leaving" [17:10] im also seeing ppl set dpi for the individual desktop environments/window managers [17:12] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) joined ##slackware. [17:12] ah, got it, that last comment in the arch forum, add it to /usr/bin/startx in defaultserverargs [17:12] defaultserverargs="-dpi 96" [17:12] exbio (n=ada@132.248.181.4) joined ##slackware. [17:12] :D google really is your friend [17:13] yeah, google is good [17:13] that should be their slogan [17:14] "Google is your friend" [17:14] google has lied to me many times but I keep going back.. it makes me feel like a crack addict when I think about it like that :\ [17:14] there have been times when google would not return desired results [17:14] well it helps when you can search for things in an intelligent manner [17:15] like i searched for "permanent setting dpi linux" [17:15] crap [17:16] google is not your friend... google is a benevolent dictator >.> [17:16] lol [17:17] koopsta (n=koop@unaffiliated/koopsta) left irc: [17:17] google will even show you other search engines if you ask it [17:17] it tells you what it thinks you should know and smacks you on the head if you think differently [17:18] Action: chazbro never got struck by Google [17:18] google does have enemies that try to game the page rank system, and google's admin finds it and fixes it, then the bad guys gotta start over [17:18] i guess i think inline with Google [17:18] see, the brainwashing already works for you :P [17:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Action: chazbro is getting very tired [17:20] didnt get much sleep... and i just ate [17:20] nap time [17:20] the itis... lol [17:20] later [17:20] i get up at 4am every morning, and get to sleep about 10 or 10:30 every night [17:20] im a total night owl [17:21] i wake up anywhere from 1-3pm and go to sleep normally around 8am [17:21] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:21] the only time i am up all night was many years ago when i worked nights, i hated working nights, i prefer to sleep nights and be up in the day time [17:21] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] night owl++ [17:22] i dont work... this is just how i am [17:23] anyway.. laters [17:23] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-70-234-180-250.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] j0z (n=JESUS@189.26.40.211.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] hrmfhrfmasf [17:27] hi jeev, have you been a bad boy? [17:28] jeevs the pest hihi [17:31] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!" [17:31] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.44) joined ##slackware. [17:31] he has been [17:32] hey nix_chix0r! [17:32] hihi [17:32] hi folk [17:32] how's the lil one nix_chix0r? [17:33] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Necos, not bad not bad [17:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.153) joined ##slackware. [17:33] right on :) [17:33] hey jeev, did you get your green dot tour yet? [17:33] how are you pimp daddy? [17:34] or i should say daddio [17:34] lol [17:34] i'm ok... school is kicking my ass... first test, and not even 3 weeks in to the semester [17:34] i bombed that shit :) [17:34] but i think everyone else did equally as poor lol [17:35] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [17:36] but that's what upper division is like in uni [17:37] can pass all your classes at 30% 'cause the highest is like 42% [17:38] good thing we're not doctors lol [17:38] now it's time to party [17:38] nope :) [17:39] got a physics lab tomorrow that i have to prep for [17:39] i have classes 5 days / week [17:39] quite a load [17:39] it's only 8 units, but when you're working fulltime, it's killer [17:40] worker22 (n=worker@a83-161-252-137.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] electromagnetic theory on t/th and modern physics on m/w/f [17:40] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] jeev: it's ok [17:42] fire|bird: ah yes i forget :P [17:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:42] oh oops [17:42] but believe me, i'm studying like 24/7 these days... [17:42] damn paste [17:42] Action: Necos stabs deco [17:42] Necos: lol had it in the buffer :P [17:43] eff EM theory [17:43] grrr too much distractions for one learning php :P [17:43] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:43] i'm a physics major... eff yew :P [17:44] physics is a law i like to defy [17:44] it's not very forgiving Pig_Pen [17:45] i know, thats half the fun [17:45] Pig_Pen: me too, like when I'm told there are no antigravity engines, I simply walk up a ladder and laugh. [17:45] better being going into astrophysics [17:45] we need to better understand the timecube [17:45] oh, the timecube [17:45] screw magnetars and GRB's [17:45] four 24hr days in a rotation of the Earth is where it's at [17:45] lol [17:46] if you dont grok the timecube, you're a mindslave or something, right? [17:46] Action: Necos has yet to grok the timecube [17:46] if i ever understand timecube i think i will check myself in to the local insane asylum [17:46] no time :P [17:46] Pixelized (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] Pig_Pen: if you ever grok the timecube you will think you already escaped the asylum [17:47] i bet you can grok it on extacy [17:47] that or a head full of ether, one of the two. [17:47] or both [17:47] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] (both just gives you more 24hour rotations) [17:47] does anyone have experience with nx nomachine? [17:48] when i move menu shortcuts it doesnt change on the host system/ [17:48] rlex (i=rlex@yunix.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] actually, there really are 11 24hour days in one rotation, its just that the other 6 are in other tiny dimenions we can't perceive. [17:48] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [17:48] there i just tied the timecube to string theory [17:48] Action: SiegeX wins [17:49] hahahaha [17:49] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left ##slackware. [17:50] that's sad :P [17:50] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70.13.182.24) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:51] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] Action: Necos notes that since Michio Kaku hasn't said it and netcraft hasn't confirmed it, no win [17:51] Briane Greene and Chuck Norris just agreed with me [17:52] *Brian [17:52] brian greene looks like marc summers... [17:52] it's so fuckin hilarious [17:52] i try to upgrade to 13.0 but i found a problem [17:52] Pre-installing package aaa_terminfo-5.7-noarch-1... [17:52] ERROR: Package ./aaa_terminfo-5.7-noarch-1.txz did not install [17:52] Channel flood from SlackLnx -- kicking [17:52] correctly. You may need to reinstall your old package [17:52] to avoid problems. Make sure the new package is not [17:52] corrupted. [17:52] SlackLnx kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:52] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.44) joined ##slackware. [17:52] and we all know there is no need for the LHC, you just need chuck norris to do a roundhouse kick on two particles [17:52] LOL [17:52] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:52] pastebin damn it [17:52] ups :P [17:52] sorry [17:52] :) [17:53] Necos: hah, good call, ya he does [17:53] lol @ LHC [17:53] caio (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] all packages give same error : [17:54] You may need to reinstall your old package [17:54] to avoid problems. Make sure the new package is not [17:54] Channel flood from SlackLnx -- kicking [17:54] corrupted. [17:54] SlackLnx kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:54] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.44) joined ##slackware. [17:55] \o/ [17:55] what the problem ?? [17:55] nothing, go on [17:55] have you not learned your lesson SlackLnx? [17:55] SlackLnx: is your /home on it's own partition? if so just install from new and mount /home and maybe back up some custom scripts in /etc [17:55] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:56] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[18:07] hit alt+f4 to become operator!!$$!$$??!! oops [18:07] time 4 lulu [18:07] or looloo [18:07] :P [18:07] Action: winter & [18:07] or .. [18:07] Action: Necos stabs winter [18:07] Action: winter suffers [18:07] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Necos: once isn't enough, again, again. :) [18:08] /j #nomachine [18:08] fail [18:09] Action: Necos stabs xover the remaining number of times instead of winter [18:09] /j #amish [18:09] omfg, are these things gold plated or what? [18:10] someone is profiteering soemwhere I'm sure :( [18:10] speaking about food maybe? [18:10] gold plated food? :P [18:10] idk, every single thing remends me about food now [18:10] no I sent a vendor an e-mail for a price quote. the reply is outrageous [18:11] fast food [18:11] lol [18:11] haha [18:12] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201.90.140.3) left irc: "Saindo" [18:12] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:12] droogs [18:12] droogz [18:12] dr00gz [18:13] no - those would probably be cheaper [18:13] w|n73r [18:13] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:29] someone on here was telling me nomachine is the way forward for remote desktop, but its rubbish [18:29] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [18:29] nothing updates [18:31] Then you are not using it correctly I guess [18:32] mate how do i get it realtime like VNC? [18:32] I use it regularly and it updates smoother than VNC even [18:32] What's the best way to text message a phone from a computer? [18:32] did you configure the server config files to achieve that? [18:32] How did you install NX xover? [18:33] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] gartt: some carriers offer a spot on their website to do it or email. google for each carriers texting email. [18:34] i installed the server node and client [18:34] then the server on the other machine then connected [18:34] i have two machines side by side [18:34] agentc0re|work: A lot you can just use cellnumberhere@carrier.com (or net, or whatever) [18:35] fire|bird: that's what i just said. [18:35] oh noes, i've got super mario bros collection on my hdd and i forgot about it ;'(( [18:35] xover: I use NX session from work to my NX server machine at home... and that is smooth as silk even. [18:36] xover: but I am using the free version of NX, not the commercial (or 2-user) version [18:36] i am using the free version and its smooth [18:36] but when i move a taskbar icon, its doesnt move on the other machine [18:37] if i add an icon, it adds it but not in the same place, its not ideal if im supporting a user [18:37] alienBOB: thanks for your qemu faq. One thing I wanted to point out was that with newer versions of qemu, you can get away with not using VDE with the new '-net tap' option (and some brctl action) [18:37] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) left irc: Connection timed out [18:37] Ah, you are using shadowing. I never use that, so I can not comment on how to make that a better experience xover [18:37] which desktop environment are you using? [18:37] what is shadowing? [18:38] SiegeX: you can do without VDE, but I still find it easier to use it anyway [18:38] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] xover: shadowing is accessing the same desktop on two different computers. Aka remotely taking over someone's session [18:39] I use a NX client to run a NX session that does not show on any other physical monitor [18:40] otherside (n=othersid@adsl-76-234-165-186.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] right, that is what i have [18:40] but what i need to do is take over someone desktop like vnc [18:40] so i can see what they see [18:41] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.202.95.202) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:42] is vnc my best option or can nx do this for me? [18:42] jinro (n=jinro@166.137.5.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] In FreeNX that what you want is called shadowing, and I think it is not enabled by default. At least I never tried it (being the only user of my FreeNX server) [18:43] i have enabled it but nothing is happening [18:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] agentc0re|work: Thanks [18:46] gartt: yup [18:47] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] jekkt (n=jekkt@2001:6f8:1c4f:0:230:18ff:fea8:6c49) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [18:50] alienBOB: I am getting unable to initialise HAL [18:51] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] alienBOB: I can see it being around the same level of difficulty in certain situations. In my setup it was a breeze because I already had a bridge with eth0 and eth1 and I simply just had to use '-net tap' and 'brctl addif br0 tap0' and I was off and running. [18:52] alphad-64 (n=alphad64@41.202.95.202) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:55] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.202.95.202) joined ##slackware. [18:55] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[19:02] heh, one of the guys over in #kde runs slack13-64 [19:02] many of the slackware64-13 guys runs KDE [19:02] i think he's one of the devs (he's an op in there) [19:03] altho, now that he's gone, i can't pick his brain for info [19:03] xover (n=rich@host86-152-49-116.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:04] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:06] he was telling me i can run kde3 apps with 4 installed [19:06] but i'm curious to know if it requires much messing with libs [19:07] Just install /extra/kde3-compat packages Necos [19:07] i forgot that minor detail [19:08] ngworeka1a (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:08] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A730A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] greeetings [19:09] Action: quasar waves [19:10] o/ [19:10] I might be a bit drunk [19:10] heya slackytude [19:10] y0 Necos [19:11] just got back from the burial of my grandma [19:11] well, I say just but I spent last 8 hours or so drinking beer with my family [19:12] fine old german tradition that is [19:12] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [19:13] and I see that the channel is kinda empty now.... [19:13] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [19:16] y0 fire|bird [19:16] y0 slackytude [19:16] hows it going? [19:16] sorry, trying to find some good music [19:17] and sorry to hear that [19:17] thx, quasar ^-^ [19:17] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] slackytude: going alright, you? [19:17] alho the beer drinking part was kinda alrite [19:17] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:18] fire|bird, just got back from the burial f my grandma [19:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] yß hitest [19:19] I'm in a Unix/Linux class (CS216) and the instructor has an incredibly thick accent [19:19] I can barely understand what he asks me [19:19] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.14) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:20] what accent? [19:22] thick, duh! [19:22] thick bristish, thick hillbilly, thick what? [19:22] curtisk (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.170.172) joined ##slackware. [19:24] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.182) joined ##slackware. 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[19:46] thats from the code microsoft donated to the kernel (for that hypervisor virtualization) from the looks of things Torvalds is going to discontinue it [19:47] slackytude: I think it's German [19:47] he talks really slowly too [19:47] I keep tuning him out and doing other stuff and then he asks me questions and I don't understand what he's saying [19:48] Based on the text book, I could be teaching this class :-/ [19:48] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [19:49] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [19:50] yeah, those german guys are really weird [19:50] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:51] slackytude specifically [19:55] zeether101 (n=ke@pool-96-251-192-31.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] Is it normal for cpu usage to jump up to 100% when playing youtube videos? [19:57] zeether101: Not entirely unexpected. [19:57] hvera (n=hamilton@189.13.201.236) joined ##slackware. [19:57] flash support is either spotty (with open source flash software) or spotty (with official adobe blob). [19:58] I see I see [19:58] Not uncommon for the blob from adobe to use vast amounts of resources to accomplish very little. [19:58] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] jgor (i=jgor@74.192.150.204) joined ##slackware. [19:59] zeether101: you could use youtube-dl and then play vids in mplayer [20:00] ross`_ (n=ross@67.52.47.70) joined ##slackware. [20:01] youtube-dl? [20:01] zeether101: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=youtube-dl [20:01] ross` (n=ross@67.52.47.70) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:03] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521c2a.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [20:05] Nick change: ross`_ -> ross` [20:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:14] bayrouni (n=mustapha@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [20:15] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:15] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [20:18] slackbook 2.6.31 i686 GNU/Linux [20:18] so far so good, digging slack13 [20:19] jgor (i=jgor@74.192.150.204) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [20:20] did you install the new kernel sepearetly? [20:20] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] Pig_Pen: what a surprise. [20:22] j0z (n=JESUS@187.59.31.210) joined ##slackware. [20:22] dioz_mio: last night [20:22] hi thumbs [20:22] dioz_mio: slack13 last week, kernel last night [20:22] cool [20:23] working well so far. [20:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) joined ##slackware. [20:23] great [20:24] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:24] oh, first problem. virtualbox. apparently /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup is no longer how its done. I'll have to see how its done to get it working with new kernel [20:25] Pig_Pen: hi [20:25] 19:46 < Pig_Pen> thats from the code microsoft donated to the kernel (for that hypervisor virtualization) from the looks of things Torvalds is going to [20:25] discontinue it [20:25] ncgty (n=gty@189.74.141.179) joined ##slackware. [20:26] 5 [20:26] bayrouni (n=mustapha@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [20:26] Pig_Pen: that was why I commented. That donated code is likely crap [20:27] is there a program similar to synaptic package manager of ubuntu on slack? [20:27] Fluoxetine (i=Bz7uWz59@209.191.210.130) left irc: "BitchX: melts in your mouth, not in your hands" [20:27] Reticenti: no, thank ghod [20:27] lol [20:28] why dont you like synaptic? [20:28] because I want to manage my system myself [20:28] ah [20:28] yeah, there is an article at /. about it, seems the article disapeard, something weird is happening at /. [20:29] Reticenti: there are some third-party addons for Slack which sort of act like synaptic. Slapt-get and slackpkg are two that I know of. [20:29] yeah [20:29] what are your thoughts on slapt-get? [20:30] Hmm, I'm not sure how this slackbuild of virtualbox-kernel is supposed to 'work' [20:30] Reticenti: use with caution. [20:30] Reticenti: don't know, I don't use it [20:30] slapt-get is ok, but i would reccommend slackpkg, and if you use slapt-get stick with an official mirror like osuosl or tds [20:30] ah [20:32] why is slackpkg better than slapt-get? [20:32] slapt-get is nothing like debian/ubuntu's apt-get, slapt-get does not resolve dependiencies and is really only good for downloading/installing updated packages [20:32] oh, ok [20:32] slackpkg is the official update tool of the national slackware league [20:33] does slackpkg resolve dependencies? [20:33] no, i dont think it does [20:33] so if i want something new, I should compile or tgz it? [20:34] Reticenti: no. it doesn't. Nothing in Slackware does that for you. [20:34] I'm trying to find a README or something on this slackbuild for virtualbox-kernel but coming up with no idea how to 'start' it now that its installed (short of perhaps rebooting which I'd rather not) [20:34] first see if slackbuilds.org has a slackbuild for it [20:34] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-60-108-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [20:34] can someone help me? [20:34] ross`: no, no one can. [20:34] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/virtualbox-kernel/ <- i have this but it tells me nothing about how to run it [20:34] (don't ask to ask, just ask) [20:34] thumbs: ?? [20:35] ross`: how did a ubuntu user like you ended up using slackware? [20:35] thumbs: um? [20:35] heh [20:35] thumbs: why are yuo dissing me? [20:35] i dont use ubuntu? [20:35] i use arch [20:35] be nice [20:35] ross`: sorry, wrong nick [20:35] first of all [20:35] ross`: do you have a question related to slackware? [20:36] thumbs:oh im in the wrong channel [20:36] heh [20:36] stupid irssi [20:36] IRSSI IS AWESOME [20:36] do NOT DIS irssi [20:36] indeed [20:36] so yes, you're the same ross` [20:36] irssi made you type slackware instead of archlinux ? [20:36] LMAO [20:36] irssi == teh devil [20:36] it's alike him. He asked stupider questions in the past in my channels. [20:36] probably some arch lulz patch [20:37] no dis fatalnix instead [20:37] thumbs: did you want to ask me how i switched to slackware from ubuntu? [20:37] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Reticenti: oh, you seem like a smart fellow. [20:37] its probably some hidden code in irssi. whenever you type slackware, you end up with slackware [20:37] :) [20:37] oh my, there it happened again [20:37] anyone have an idea about my virtualbox-kernel question? once installed, how does one 'run it' [20:37] Action: toastytoast isn't really here [20:37] Reticenti: I know ross. It's different. [20:37] ah [20:37] lol [20:37] *poof* [20:37] v3gard: what? has someone reported that upstream? ;) [20:38] ... [20:38] zeether101 (n=ke@pool-96-251-192-31.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:38] Reticenti: this fellow could barely use a text editor a year ago. [20:38] Action: fatalnix nudges Toast [20:38] *poof* [20:38] so yes [20:39] I now have the specifications down for extended lolcode [20:39] BP{k}: no, actually I successfully exploited their svn repository the other, and added some obfuscated code so that they wouldn't notice right away :) [20:39] as Slackware 14's scripts will be completely written in extended LOLCODE. [20:39] s/other/other day/ [20:39] that is all. [20:39] to install a package, you must type: [20:39] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] lol installpkg [20:40] with the alias i_can_haz_pkg :) [20:40] I keep getting the message: "Please recompile the kernel module and install it by sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" but when I try that (/etc/rc.d/rc/vboxdrv setup) I get "Not implemented! Please use the virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild available at SlackBuilds.org instead" [20:40] toast and I are writing extended lol, itl be epic [20:40] which I have installed. [20:40] briareus: you need to make /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv executable if it isn't already, and run it (./rc.vboxdrv start). You can add that to rc.local to run at bootup. [20:41] with object support, functions, file io, etc [20:41] danc3: /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv is already made +x, I get this: Not implemented! Please use the virtualbox-kernel.SlackBuild available at SlackBuilds.org instead [20:41] and I have now installed THAT [20:42] but I have no idea how to 'start' it [20:42] I just told you how to start it [20:42] not "setup", use "start" [20:42] only at bootup? [20:42] yup [20:42] it's just a module that needs to be loaded [20:43] the main Virtualbox is another package that you need to install, the OSE thing at SBo. [20:43] but it has to be reinstalled then every new kernel, the slackbuild I mean. [20:43] yes [20:43] just like any other module [20:43] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [20:43] ah, BUT, until last night, I merely had to '/etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup' after each new kernel compile/boot. now I have to reinstall an entire slackbuild. [20:44] so is it bad that when my TA for my CS class is teaching the lab linux, that I have to correct him on commands? [20:44] more BRian's? [20:44] I'm a Brian! [20:44] briareus: I don't know about that [20:44] danc3: I just had to do it :) [20:44] Can I has drink? I be right backs [20:45] until today, I've only ever had to execute that setup command, across several kernels with a single vbox install in 12.2 [20:45] (i mean one execution with each new kernel boot) [20:45] but I installed that virtualbox-kernel last week when I first got vbox with slack13, and now again with the new kernel. [20:46] but maybe something went funny and I won't next time. we'll see with 2.6.31.1 [20:46] the "setup" option is just a dummy placeholder in the rc.vboxdrv script, it does nothing but display that error message you posted. [20:46] any one on slack64 having problems with it clearing cache with a DVD burn? [20:46] so, no point in using that [20:46] but it used to actually make it work after I ran it [20:46] is my point [20:46] I would run that setup, then user could start up virtualbox [20:46] dunno, but maybe it stopped being used with S13 [20:47] yeah I am guessing so [20:47] I never used it before S13 [20:47] well either way it works now so, even if it is one more package, oh well :) it works. [20:47] okey dokey [20:47] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] packages are cheap ;) [20:48] greetings and salutations [20:48] hola [20:48] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [20:49] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:52] in slackpkg, which USA mirror would you reccomend? [20:52] the one you get the best speeds from [20:53] which is normaly the one closest to you [20:53] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Client Quit [20:53] is there an easy way to test the speeds of various mirrors? [20:53] osuosl = oregon state university or TDS Reticenti [20:53] download the kernel or some other large file from it [20:54] a little testing can go a long ways ;) [20:55] ok [20:55] osuosl. isn't corvallis (home of the kernel) osuusl? [20:56] kernel.org has a huge backend [20:56] I thought I read a couple years ago they moved the main server to corvallis [20:59] Action: andarius has no idea there. best speeds here being from ga tech when they are up [20:59] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.212.242) left irc: "fnord!!" [21:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:00] I'm using oregon states mirror [21:00] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.202.95.202) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:01] there is also a mirror in either north or south carolina university it would be great when it was up & running but the dang thing would not stay up all the time, i have the best luck with osuosl or tds [21:03] tds rocks [21:04] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.212.242) joined ##slackware. [21:04] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [21:04] also, what's the preferred way to run stuff as root while a regular user? [21:05] jessicaa (i=e_k@41.236.14.121) joined ##slackware. [21:05] su in a terminal, or sudo if you prefer [21:05] Reticenti: I tend to drop to a root tty or run a root terminal on my desktop [21:05] ncgty (n=gty@189.74.141.179) left irc: "not a macfag" [21:05] mkm [21:05] mkm? [21:06] mmk* [21:06] i know in other distros, it's "proper" to run root commands with "sudo command" [21:06] is that an acceptable method in slack? [21:07] sure [21:07] I suppose so. Not sure why it wouldn't be. personally I've never used sudo except for ubuntu, but hey whatever's clever [21:07] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.11) joined ##slackware. [21:08] hmmm, foaming simple green spray. [21:08] I use sudo if it's just one quick command I need to run as root. If I plan on doing several things over a longer time, I'll just su to root and proceed. [21:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] ok [21:09] yeah like sudo chmod 777 /path/to/porn [21:09] ooops, you get the idea [21:09] or sudo chmod 000 /path/to/porn if your gf is coming over, right? [21:09] methinks tonight is a good night for more conky configginess. or is it conkiness? [21:09] wait, we're using linux [21:10] so no gf [21:10] haha [21:10] :D [21:10] crazymentos (n=niet@host-70-45-90-69.onelinkpr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] I have a gf for over five years now. She's still inflatable, no real leaks. [21:10] duct tape ftw [21:11] Nick change: crazymentos -> mentr [21:11] lol [21:11] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:11] haha [21:11] actually, you should probably kick me from channel, i'm married :3 [21:11] but i didnt start to really use linux until AFTER i got married [21:12] damn, you should have started earlier. [21:12] i did [21:12] my first distro was slack 10.1 [21:12] might have avoided that [21:12] (roughly freshman in HS) [21:12] damn [21:12] Action: danc3 has been married 25 long years [21:12] 25.5 actually [21:13] Action: Reticenti has been married 9 long months [21:13] :D [21:13] heh [21:13] "And it has been the best three years of my life." [21:13] you ain't seen nuthin yet [21:13] hell, I've got kids older than you [21:14] both college grads in fact [21:14] To save time, reboot your computer in the background using "reboot &" [21:14] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] I've been married 25 years as well, but not continuously. :) [21:14] heh [21:14] reboot & [21:14] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [21:15] not working toastytoast [21:15] lol [21:15] sudo reboot & [21:15] nope, still not working [21:15] oh nvm then thought it was a good idea [21:15] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) left ##slackware ("[brb compy restarting]"). [21:15] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) joined ##slackware. [21:15] just kidding [21:15] how about MY? Curiously Masochistic. [21:16] Gah.. stupid scroll back! [21:16] saw it on the arch linux page at uncycloedia tought i'd giv eit a try [21:16] lol [21:17] agentc0re: hahaha, scrollback fail. :) [21:17] fire|bird: indeed. [21:18] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:18] agentc0re: I had that happen yesterday, but I'm using pidgin addon that draws a red line to mark where I last was, so that helps, just not always. :P [21:19] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [21:20] does anyone know of a command line app for "normal" chat clients like yahoo, etc [21:20] fire|bird, how do you find the pidgin irc client? [21:20] yht (n=yht@114.121.200.110) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:21] diven: When you open pidgin, you go into Accounts and Manage accounts and then add an IRC account. [21:21] lol [21:21] :P [21:21] does it do socks? [21:22] yeah [21:22] it can anyway. That's under the account settings proxy tab. [21:22] i see it [21:23] cool [21:23] otherside (n=othersid@adsl-76-234-165-186.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:23] hba (n=hba@189.188.200.207) joined ##slackware. [21:23] maybe I'll give it a whirl at work tomorrow [21:23] otherside (n=othersid@adsl-76-234-165-186.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] diven: cool, I really like it. Also, at slackbuilds.org there's a plugin pack that adds some extra's that add functionality, features, etc. that might be of interest to you. [21:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A730A0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:24] I have to use xp at work D: [21:24] you have my sympathy. :P [21:24] i'll check out it here [21:24] i really have grown attached to xchat though [21:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.60) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] ok, the plugin pack is available for windows too. [21:24] i'm using putty to ssh into my slackbox on xp right now :\ [21:25] putty to use irssi [21:25] Action: agentc0re summons antiwire [21:25] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) left irc: No route to host [21:25] I ssh with bitvise into a vps and socks xhcat through that at work [21:25] damn it, it didn't work. [21:25] lol [21:26] agentc0re: not enough magical powers yet? :P [21:26] pidgin_user (n=alan@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] what's antiwire.... agentc0re? [21:26] Reticenti: the antichrist of wire. [21:26] hahaha [21:26] :| [21:27] fire|bird: are you good at rewording stuff for resumes? :D [21:27] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:27] pidgin_user (n=alan@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:27] no, not really, what do you have that needs rewording? [21:27] user2438 (n=user4592@76.250.190.56) joined ##slackware. [21:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:28] just trying to better describe what i am responsible for. Plus it's for an online resume, so i am not taking it as serious as an actual resume that i would format entirely. [21:28] agentc0re: I write good resumes. Momma says I'm a good talker. [21:29] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] she says I'm a good worder because of all the books and stuff I done read. [21:30] looks like you've got a good mother then. [21:30] at least one that ALWAYS says he's good at stuff. [21:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [21:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:32] well you know how it is with momma [21:33] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:33] she just loves you to the end [21:33] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) joined ##slackware. [21:34] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:35] yht (n=yht@114.123.46.145) joined ##slackware. [21:35] http://www.takafansubs.com/?p=news&id=59 lol [21:40] holy crap :| [21:41] Nick change: danc3 -> Guest90484 [21:42] haha [21:42] Haha, fuckin great [21:42] Guest90484 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:43] lol [21:44] its like that one log where the guy deletes everything at 127.0.0.1 [21:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] ang (n=ang@ip68-110-205-91.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] jessicaa (i=e_k@41.236.14.121) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:46] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [21:46] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:46] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:46] lol agentc0re [21:46] anyone know where i can get CDE? [21:47] google.com ? [21:47] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:47] i've looked i actually kinda wanna try it have yet to actuyally find it [21:47] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/linux-foundation-to-microsoft-stop-secretly-attacking-linux.ars [21:48] user2438 (n=user4592@76.250.190.56) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] anyone know why konsole does not show the user@host from a restore? [21:48] i don't even know what cde is [21:49] Common desktop inviroment [21:49] diven, is your $PS1 set? [21:49] i seen a video of this chic with a botfly larva living in her scalp, eeeww! i am glad those things do not make it up to the USA [21:49] Reticenti, empty [21:49] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [21:50] toastytoast: theres some links to some CDE stuff at the bottom of wikipedias CDE page [21:50] that's why, then, diven [21:50] gotcha, thanks [21:51] here's mine i use: \u@\h:\w\$ [21:51] (user@host:workingdir $ ) [21:52] Reticenti: where are you setting that? [21:53] in .bashrc [21:53] http://pastebin.com/m2abd276a this is what i have in /etc/profile [21:54] Pig_Pen: doesnt that result to typing in red & green? [21:54] oh [21:54] nevermind. its late [21:54] naw just the prompt itself is colored [21:54] the text you type out is normal [21:54] yeah i didnt notice $NORMAL [21:54] all i have as mine is PS1="/u@/H:/w $ " [21:55] i dont do anything fancy [21:55] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [21:55] holy crap did google icrease the size of the search text box and button? [21:56] increase* [21:56] whoa [21:56] i think they did [21:56] red means be careful with things like rm? :) [21:57] i run rm -rf / without fear, mancha [21:57] yeah, i like it to show how crucial root is at all times, if i su from a regular user account it stays green though [21:57] mine is huge [21:57] this is rlly all i can find http://xwinman.org/cde.php it commercial but i would still like to try it [21:57] try using "su -" instead [21:58] briareus: did you see this as well? http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-teaches-best-buy-employees-how-to-troll-linux-users.ars [21:58] http://imagebin.org/63415 google [21:58] ok [21:58] that does it [21:58] red! [21:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:00] sahko: yeah, repulsive [22:02] so today in my CS class, an assignment was due. This semester everyone has to work in linux (program and compile in linux), and since most of the people in the class have never even heard of linux, the uni has a linux lab you can ssh into to do your programming/compiling. Well, last night, the power went out in for the entire university, so everyone is freaking out, but luckily I had slack installed at home, so i was unaffected [22:02] now it's due tomorrow [22:03] never heard of Linux? They been living under a Rock on Uranus? [22:03] but i still loled at my friends who were upset over it [22:03] well, they've probably herd of linux [22:03] heard* [22:03] next time i am near a bestbuy i will troll the employees while asking about desktops & laptops, faking like i am disapointed because they dont have Linux on them [22:03] but i'd say about 90% of the class has never used it [22:03] I had to correct my TA on a linux command today in lab [22:04] tch - the lab has no backupo power? [22:04] the power was out for like 10 hours... 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[22:06] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.30.127) joined ##slackware. [22:06] Pig_Pen: it was a university. if it's any size at all it has it's own data trunk [22:06] ai went up to the TA after lab and told him it was umount [22:06] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] tltstc (n=tltstc@76.168.78.251) joined ##slackware. [22:06] and if the ISP loses power it's time to find a new one [22:06] http://imagebin.ca/view/TsFNsdi.html [22:06] yeah, the uni has it's internet line [22:06] Evening everybody [22:06] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-152.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:06] and hosts all of its own stuff [22:07] I know 13.0 came out but if I update to current will that bring me to 13.0 or do I have to reinstall? [22:07] current is 13 now [22:07] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:08] nachox, will it still show as 12.2 or will it show as 13.0 after update? [22:08] 13 [22:09] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:09] when I sudo to do a command, how do I make it so that it can actually find the command? [22:09] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:09] right now, if, for example, i do sudo slackpkg update [22:09] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-70-234-180-250.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) got lost in the net-split. [22:10] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) got lost in the net-split. [22:10] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) got lost in the net-split. [22:10] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) got lost in the net-split. [22:10] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) got lost in the net-split. [22:10] i get a slackpkg does not exist error [22:10] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [22:10] .... and i'm back from my nap [22:11] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:11] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] are you the superuser Reticenti? [22:11] nachox is it ok to update using current or should I use something like swarret [22:12] sometimes you have to be superuser aka root before certain apps will 'exist' for you [22:12] o0 [22:13] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] just type su and then enter your password [22:13] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [22:13] then proceed as normal [22:13] specify full path or change your PATH to include /sbin etc [22:13] don't forget to 'exit' after you do what you gotta do as root [22:13] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] i wouldn't add /sbin to a regular users $PATH [22:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.207) left irc: "Leaving" [22:16] I do. [22:16] many do [22:16] better to keep those seperate [22:16] fwiw. [22:16] chazbro, many people do [22:16] i also almost always have a terminal with root logged in while i am logged into my desktop as my user. [22:16] eek not smart [22:16] adrenaline_, i wouldnt use swaret, but that is just me [22:16] orly? [22:16] nachox, what do you use/suggest? [22:17] I usually do as well agentc0re [22:17] adrenaline_, the official upgrade option [22:17] slapt-get/gslapt is okay... just be carefult to use only official slackware mirrors [22:17] adrenaline_: slackpkg. or pkgtools(8) [22:17] Is that new I am not familiar [22:18] adrenaline_: slackpkg? [22:18] it's only beein in slackware since .. hmm version 9.x ;) [22:18] The official upgrade option [22:18] lol [22:18] .... [22:18] slackpkg upgrade? [22:18] adrenaline_: man slackpkg. [22:18] ok thanks [22:19] hba (n=hba@189.188.200.207) left irc: "leaving" [22:20] here's a question for you... right now i'm using xfce4 (slack 12.2) and i have kde desktop icons showing up with my xfce desktop icons [22:20] how do not show kde icons? [22:20] last question do I /sbin/lilo before I reboot after an upgrade [22:20] BP{k}, thanks for your patience [22:21] adrenaline_, if you upgrade kernel [22:21] ok [22:21] adrenaline_, slackpkg will ask to do it for you [22:21] sweet [22:21] If everything is working right, should I even bother [22:22] yes you should [22:22] adrenaline_: this is the official way http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0/UPGRADE.TXT [22:22] ok that is what I wanted to hear [22:22] hehe [22:22] new kernel needs lilo to be run [22:22] but with slackpkg its probably easier [22:22] adrenaline_: if you want to upgrade read the UPGRADE.TXT As sahko pointed out. But also ready the UPGRADE_AND_HINTS.TXT [22:23] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [22:23] adrenaline_, read upgrade.txt and changes_and_hints.txt [22:23] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] sidmario (n=xxx@201-43-54-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Thanks guys I am off to read [22:23] hey dive, how's it going? [22:23] fire|bird: howdy :) [22:23] ok... can somebody help me with my nagging problem? [22:24] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [22:24] fire|bird, hi, just woke up - 3:23am lol, hows you? [22:24] hey fire|bird [22:24] dive: great, thanks. I just set irssi up (with a script) to pop up notifications when someone says my nick. :) [22:24] hi chazbro [22:25] fire|bird, popup a dialog or something? [22:25] fire|bird: I am good :) hm sound interesting, does the script only work with a local client? [22:25] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] I just have a sound [22:25] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [22:25] BP{k}: This one does, but there's another one that can work remotely [22:25] right now i'm using xfce4 (slack 12.2) and i have kde desktop icons showing up with my xfce desktop icons [22:26] dive: yeah [22:26] how do i hide kde desktop icons in xfce? [22:26] chazbro, not sure there's any way of only seeing xfce icons. [22:26] dive: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/irssi-notifications/ [22:26] dive: ^^^ that plus you need Net::DBus perl module [22:26] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [22:26] BP{k}: http://pthree.org/2007/03/21/irssi-gui-notify/ [22:27] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:27] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:27] fire|bird: thanks :) [22:27] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/now-s-u-p-e-r-sized.html [22:27] BP{k}: yw :) [22:27] not loading here fire|bird [22:27] ok at least I am not crazy [22:28] dive: the page isn't? [22:28] nope [22:28] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] dive: Hmm, is working here, but, here's the sctipt http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/anBfWh12.html [22:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425673.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:29] dive: and name it, name_here.pl and put it in ~/.irssi/scripts and load as usual, then run /notify on your_nick_here [22:29] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:30] user9399 (n=user5306@76.250.190.56) joined ##slackware. [22:30] fire|bird, thx will check it out later [22:30] yht (n=yht@114.123.46.145) left irc: "I must go.." [22:30] yw [22:30] I still don't see why they had to make it bigger... I resized it and lol then my search page is tiny! lol [22:32] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [22:33] they probably figured that people using google for 11 years must be wearing glasses or going blind by now [22:33] lol [22:34] lol [22:34] i hate big things on computers [22:34] I make everything as small as possible [22:34] diven: same here [22:34] font size 8 on a 1680x1050 :) [22:35] :D [22:36] font size 8, good grief, do you wear binoculars then to see it? :P [22:37] some of us aren't as old as you fire|bird. :P [22:37] fire|bird: No you saw a screen shot of my desktop [22:37] lol ;) [22:37] [].[] [22:37] yeah, I know. [22:37] agentc0re: hahahaha [22:37] Action: andarius also uses font size of 8 :P [22:38] scratch that, currently sans 7 :| [22:38] haha [22:38] Well you know what they say about the font size you pick.. [22:38] Action: fire|bird makes an eye doctors appointment. :/ [22:38] Action: andarius doesnt know... what do they say ? [22:39] fire|bird: http://imagebin.org/63421 [22:40] haha andarius [22:40] agentc0re: Yeah more info on screen = more brain power ;) [22:40] Umm. ya, well... ahh.. you see smaller things? [22:41] lf4: That doesn't look like an 8pt font :P [22:42] Action: dive uses a 1px font >.< [22:42] fire|bird: lol then the settings are lying to me. [22:42] lol [22:42] dive: I was just about to say that haha [22:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [22:44] fire|bird: maybe my eyes are so bad and its really size 80 ;) http://imagebin.org/63422 [22:44] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] lf4: Well, it's bold 8, that makes sense now. [22:44] Action: lf4 checks what it would be with out bold... :) [22:45] lf4: you left out info. :P [22:45] Action: lf4 can't see anything anymore [22:45] http://67.191.170.126:34224/~andarius/images/screenshots/desktop-08-05-2009.jpg [22:46] 7 pt default :o [22:46] lol its not much of a difference with it normal vs bold. [22:46] nice andarius :) [22:46] What theme are you using? [22:47] gtk is a modified Overglossed and xfwm is Ashen II [22:48] Ashen II http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Ashen+II?content=77587 [22:49] Action: hitest likes the screenshot....nice one, andarius:) [22:49] thanks hitest [22:49] fire|bird: thats it [22:49] yw:, andarius:) [22:49] andarius: Is this the overglossed you used? http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Overglossed?content=74813 [22:50] heya hitest [22:50] fire|bird: yes, though as noted mine is modified [22:50] hi fire|bird! [22:50] I did not like the menu backing nor the scroll bars [22:50] andarius: yeah. very nice, that's for sure. [22:51] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:51] you can see the menu diff in mine vs that one [22:51] yeah [22:51] i can plop one up of the scroll bar if you want [22:51] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [22:53] john_dee (n=id@93.81.138.23) left irc: "link closed" [22:53] :O, I found overglossed red, I'm sold. :) [22:53] See ya thanks again #slackware [22:53] see ya adrenaline_ [22:53] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:53] http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Overglossed+Colours?content=99170 [22:53] red... ewww hard on the eyes no wonder you have bigger font fire|bird :P [22:54] hahahaha [22:54] http://67.191.170.126:34224/~andarius/images/Desktop.jpg <-- has the scroll bar mod [22:55] nice xfce [22:55] andarius: That's nice. [22:55] i did not like the curve :( [22:56] that's the nice thing about being able to edit them to your liking. :) [22:56] yes :) [22:56] chazbro (n=cbroam@adsl-70-234-180-250.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:56] brb, I'm going to switch to xfce and mess around with these themes now. :P [22:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:56] haha fire|bird [22:56] i love xfce [22:56] lol [22:56] xfce is goot :) [22:56] xfce is the best :) [22:57] i had to run it b/c my current system lacks in ram, but now that I'm using it, it's pretty awesome [22:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] <3 xfce [22:57] Action: BP{k} has come to love XFCE :) [22:57] yeah [22:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:57] I came from blackbox myself. [22:58] and I'm back. :) [22:58] fire|bird: wb [22:58] Action: fire|bird watches everyone run for the door :) [22:58] it does take some adjustment from the big dogs but once one adjusts it is very nice [22:58] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:58] lf4: thanks :) [22:58] fire|bird: you know, they invented screen for that ;) [22:58] Action: hitest loves Xfce and Fluxbox:) [22:58] BP{k}: I know, I know. I use screen all the time with irssi, I just forget about it. :P [22:58] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.30.127) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:58] BP{k}++ [22:59] xfce is nice and simple. [22:59] fvwm! [22:59] fire|bird: just be honest, you're ircing from pidging again, aren't you ;) [22:59] fire|bird: did you start it this tiem? [22:59] lol [22:59] i only have 256mb or ram on my slackbox, and xfce works pretty well [22:59] lf4: I guess not [22:59] Reticenti: even with 128 MB [22:59] Hey now, i IRC from pidgin. it's nice and easy. [22:59] yeah [22:59] BP{k}: at the moment, yes because I've been messing with pidgin themes. [22:59] Action: lf4 removes all wm's form fire|bird's computer! [22:59] Reticenti: that and Opera. [22:59] lf4: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [23:00] agentc0re: weenie [23:00] the only problem, thumbs, is when i run ff, multiple terminals, xmms, + various other programs [23:00] lf4: omg, the terminal's flying. Deleteing..... Deleting...... STOP, ENOUGH. :P [23:00] Reticenti: the problem is that you're launching firefox to begin with. [23:00] thumbs: Bah. just following the KISS philosophy [23:00] fire|bird: next will be X :P [23:00] thumbs: but...... I love ff [23:01] Vimperator :) [23:01] i've been using ff since it was version .8 [23:01] Action: fire|bird removes X + xfce from lf4's pc, leaving only blackbox and emacs :) [23:01] Reticenti: so you need more RAM [23:01] yeah [23:01] Action: agentc0re quickly removes the blackbox from lf4's pc. [23:01] You are doomed to only have EMACS!!! [23:02] \o/ [23:02] ahh not emacs [23:02] i'm too poor atm to buy more ram [23:02] screw emacs [23:02] at least we didnt delete everything but ed... [23:02] hiptobecubic: no, that's what it does to you. :P [23:02] lf4: If you search a bit, you MIGHT have elvis. :P [23:02] We're not in soviet russia [23:02] elvis is dead :P [23:03] Action: lf4 reformats and installs ubuntu on fire|bird's PC!!! HAHAHA Take that! [23:03] andarius: No way, he's running a donut shop in Dayton. :) [23:03] Action: andarius makes note to never eat donuts in Dayton :| [23:03] lf4: You are a cruel, cruel, human being. :) [23:03] fire|bird: Yeah thats also where michael jacksons is. [23:03] andarius: hahaha [23:03] mentr (n=niet@host-70-45-90-69.onelinkpr.net) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [23:03] lf4: I thought he was running a candy store in Seattle? [23:03] pcallycat (n=dad@97.121.8.82) joined ##slackware. [23:04] theme park ;) [23:04] fire|bird: we all know you secretly run ubuntu [23:04] fire|bird: Really? I haven't followed up on that one. He might be. [23:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:04] theme park with a candy store in it. :) [23:04] i thought he was the candy in a store in Seattle. [23:04] lf4: yeah, he posted it on twitter. [23:04] ssh fire|bird ; uname -a [23:04] agentc0re: hahahaha [23:04] lf4: ssh is disabled, :) [23:05] Pull his finger and a sucker erects from between his legs. [23:05] telnet fire|bird [23:05] Reticenti: Shhhhh, you'll ruin the reputation I don't have. [23:05] I know telnet is to advanced for you [23:05] lf4: that's disabled too. [23:05] Good eve, google has failed me, can anyone point me to where QTDIR should be defined? It currently is not on my system, and it's killin my slackbuilds lol. ?? any help hugely appreciated. [23:05] agentc0re: hahahaha [23:05] haha agentc0re Wow [23:05] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.36) joined ##slackware. [23:05] How many licks does it take ........ well, you know the rest. [23:05] pcallycat: /etc/profile.d/qt4.sh (for slackware-13.0) [23:06] fire|bird: they always bite after three licks. [23:06] clearly i forgot how to use screen lol [23:06] BP{k}: tyvm [23:06] lf4: You been dating the wrong women [23:06] didn't realize i had this open still [23:06] lf4: even in the case of what agentc0re described? :P [23:06] Dominian: lol [23:06] I need to make a screenrc [23:06] pcallycat: for slackware <= 12.2 /etc/profile.d/qt.sh [23:06] what kind of things can you do with screenrc? [23:06] Dominian: lol that I wont deny. [23:07] :) [23:07] Reticenti: all sorts of things [23:07] fire|bird: like what? :| [23:07] lf4: Hate to say it, until you date the wrong one, you never will know who the right one is. [23:07] Reticenti, this: [0 irssi 1 zsh 2 zsh] Junius Fri 11 Sep 4:07am [23:07] Women can be right? [23:07] ;) [23:07] ah [23:07] agentc0re: What? Where'd you find this out? [23:08] and do most people here use zsh or bash? [23:08] it's what Dominian said. [23:08] zsh ftw!!! [23:08] bash here [23:08] zsh is nice [23:08] i use bash, but i only found out about zsh like a week ago [23:08] Dominian: lol true, agentc0re good question. [23:08] Reticenti: bash and very occasionally ksh. [23:11] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Action: andarius uses bash, is simple and most everywhere [23:12] Action: dive read that as 'moist' [23:12] i read that and am now moist [23:12] why use zsh? [23:12] Action: andarius points dive to the hookers [23:12] [ in bed ] [23:12] and to Reticenti [23:12] lol [23:12] Action: agentc0re follows dive [23:13] hiptobecubic, zsh is the ultimate shell, since there are no more letters after 'z' [23:13] lol [23:13] We're on to see the hookers, the wonderful hookers of OZ.. [23:13] hahahahaha [23:13] BEEEEECAUSE!!!!! [23:13] what's that fishy smell? [23:13] Of the wonderful things they does! [23:13] agentc0re: which road do you follow for that? [23:13] danc3: the hookers [23:13] oh, ok [23:14] smelled like a moist salmon [23:14] or possibly a trout [23:14] yum... fish taco. [23:14] damn.....I step out for a minute and now there are hookers? [23:14] yup [23:14] lol hitest always ;) [23:15] :) [23:15] hitest: yes, but all the good ones are taken [23:15] if you have hookers, you gotta have blow [23:15] so that you can do the blow of said hookers ass [23:15] I'll take the one with........a big......heart:) [23:15] I prefer the one with the big ass. [23:15] who is British in here, what do the Brits mean when they say something weighs a numbered about of stone, like 9 stone [23:16] man stone [23:16] RipVanWinkle, google [23:16] 1 stone = 16 pounds (iirc) [23:16] google. [23:16] ok [23:16] hitest: they have hearts? [23:16] "9 stone in lbs" [23:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] I want the one with a big pair of....... eyes ;) [23:17] Hello brilliant minds. [23:17] i want one free of STI's [23:17] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] stone = 14 pounds [23:17] agentc0re, BORING [23:17] hvera (n=hamilton@189.13.201.236) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:17] agentc0re: Wont find that here. [23:17] hiptobecubic: lol [23:17] :D [23:17] stone 14 pounds, ok [23:17] agentc0re: STI? Sexually Transmitted Intelligence? [23:17] lol [23:18] infection [23:18] I know, it was a joke [23:18] lol [23:18] STI - Smelly Tuna Innards [23:18] lol [23:18] Action: andarius must have been sleeping with all the wrong women... as he feels less intelligent than when he was young :( [23:18] lol [23:18] stole it from me they did [23:19] hiptobecubic: http://gaylife.about.com/cs/gay101/a/bugparties.htm [23:19] fire|bird: women have intelligence? [23:19] fire|bird: Wow there are a lot of those questions rolling around tonight. [23:19] agentc0re, HAY WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? LOOKS PRETTY STRAIGHT [23:19] agentc0re: Well, some, but they'd never bother with you anyway, so..... [23:20] hiptobecubic: No pic's. but an interesting read. [23:20] i have some files in my home directory called .serverauth.3123 , what are they? [23:20] hiptobecubic: it's about Gift givers and and Bug chasers. Basically people who want to receive and distribute AIDS. [23:20] agentcore: well....I'm hoping the nice ones do;) [23:20] hiptobecubic: purposefully... [23:20] yeah i'm reading [23:21] and i must say [23:21] WHAT THE SHIT IS GOING ON [23:21] kejen (n=brian@67.202.107.232) joined ##slackware. [23:21] jesus, that's some sick shit [23:21] bbiab [23:21] hiptobecubic: no shit eh? [23:21] where's a hand grenade when you need one [23:21] danc3: Ya, i found about it in 2003 in a TIME magazine. [23:21] honestly, why are these people even allowed to live? [23:21] that's just hard to fathom [23:22] Darwin Awards for everyone! [23:22] agentc0re, way to ruin our good hooker discussion [23:22] yay [23:22] lol [23:22] yeah, so much for happy hooker thoughts [23:23] hiptobecubic: Hey man, i just wanted one clean but you said it was "BORING..." [23:23] hiptobecubic: there's boring for you. :P [23:23] Action: dive frames his Darwin Award and hangs it on the wall [23:23] dive, i don't think you can get yours yet [23:23] it's like sainthood [23:23] :( [23:24] what broswer should I use for a low ram system? [23:24] dive: don't be disappointed - since it can only be given posthumously, you should be glad to not have one :) [23:24] browser* [23:24] Reticenti, elinks :D [23:24] Reticenti: links -g or elinks :P [23:25] Reticenti, telnet [23:25] lol [23:25] lol byteframe [23:25] netcat [23:25] I win. [23:25] i can run firefox, it's just slow [23:25] re [23:25] laters, sleepytime [23:25] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:26] I hate the browser dilemma - I wish a good text-mode one would be feasible, but so many sites prevent it [23:26] wine iexporer.exe [23:26] blah [23:26] what dilemma? [23:26] Hey rk4n3 [23:26] fire|bird: hi :) [23:26] Quiznos: Browser wars. :) [23:26] s/iexporer.exe/iexplorer.exe [23:26] blah [23:26] fire|bird and? [23:26] agentc0re, and after all that talking about not wanting a dirty hooker [23:27] hiptobecubic: hahhaha [23:27] ;) [23:27] Quiznos: well, the dilemma is sorta "prostrate yourself to the bloat and slowness of all the graphics crap" or "don't use the web" [23:27] hiptobecubic: that made my nite. [23:27] agentc0re: i should run ie5 in wine, right? [23:27] rk4n3 still too abstract for me :) [23:27] Reticenti: no way, ie8 [23:27] :| [23:27] Quiznos: haha :) [23:27] L) [23:27] Reticenti, just type the url into explorer [23:27] dude! MS went open source.. i totally trust them now. :P [23:28] rk4n3: don't you just love all the sites that need flash, etc. :P [23:28] ahem bs [23:28] fire|bird: exactly - it pains me [23:28] agentc0re: haha [23:28] Quiznos: it's not too far off from the truth. [23:28] fire|bird, yeah exacely [23:28] rk4n3: yeah, it's horrible [23:28] agentc0re what did MS do? [23:29] Quiznos: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/09/10/1712247/Microsoft-Launches-Its-Own-Open-Source-Foundation?from=rss [23:29] heh [23:29] YEY for large links and my laziness for tinyurl [23:29] they sent agentc0re a love letter asking to please come back and a free copy of Windows 7 that agentc0re has to pay for. :P [23:29] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] agentc0re recall that a few days ago i think i posted a blog story about linux-context stories being buried on various sites like digg and /. [23:30] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] all the cool kids left digg a long time ago [23:30] Action: Dominian still uses digg [23:31] case in point [23:31] however, I use pligg to created sligg.slackadelic.com :P [23:31] haha [23:31] Quiznos: ya, it happens. Oh well. It's funny that they do this but yet are still in battle with the OSS community. [23:31] TOO BIG A DOOR TO ENTER; MUST.RESIST [23:31] Action: Dominian is "cool" [23:31] Reticenti: they all moved to reddit ? :P [23:31] agentc0re your nick and shadow kill my tab. yea. [23:31] Slashdot isn't much better [23:32] yeah, deco :P [23:32] Dominian: what made you decide to use pligg? [23:32] after that burying story i have no incentive to write or digg [23:32] sometimes the behavior patterns on the internet remind me of lemmings [23:32] agentc0re: it was availab.e [23:32] Quiznos: ya, sorry. [23:33] flocking fish [23:33] and th eonly one I newa about at the time [23:33] ... like the migration from myspace to facebook - sheesh [23:33] heh, s'ok [23:33] agentc0re: and its just an "experiment" right now [23:33] what exp.? [23:33] Dominian: figured as much. just curious as why that stuck out over the others. [23:33] social web sites ewwwwww :P [23:33] lol [23:33] agentc0re: Didn't really research it to be honest [23:33] deco that "ew" reminds me of the toilet bowl commercial lol [23:33] agentc0re: I was just bored.. remembered pligg.. decided to give it a try [23:34] deco tongue and all [23:34] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:34] Quiznos: lol [23:34] :) [23:34] Dominian: Fair enough! :D [23:34] livebrai1 (n=200mg@87-196-230-48.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:35] almost seems like the new "lemming parade" is headed toward all the stupid little games like farmtown or whatever that things is... [23:35] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:35] brb, restarting screen [23:37] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:37] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:41] Reticenti, /exit irssi, and then exit in all shells [23:41] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@114.243.229.39) joined ##slackware. [23:42] hi, how to set *.test.com on my /etc/hosts ? [23:42] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:42] set to what? [23:42] Has anyone here successfully compiled QtCurve-Gtk2? [23:42] I want to resolve test1.test.com test2.test.com .... to 192.168.0.1 [23:42] are they live sites or dummies? [23:43] 192.168.0.1 test.com? [23:43] no, thery are sites running on localhost [23:43] localhost isnt 192.168.* [23:43] I have been curious about how the social networking websites can make it to do social engineering attacks, has anyone been seeing updated training in the company's IT security policy about the risks of social networking sites? [23:43] dive: 192.168.1 test.com doesnt resolve test1.test.com [23:43] man hosts [23:44] i think it needs to be test1.test.com test2.test.com 192.168.0.1 [23:44] nacho_ (n=nacho@190.51.52.81) left irc: "Leaving" [23:44] I want to resolve *.test.com to 192.168.0.1 [23:44] how to set the /etc/hosts ? [23:44] ali0t4 if they are on a private lan, then you dont want to use hosts that way. [23:44] setup a privte dns resolver [23:44] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:45] etc/hosts format is: IP [spc] names... [23:45] ali0t4, I think you need to put each hostname separately. Doesn't do wildcards. [23:46] I don't believe you can use wildcards.. yeah what dive said [23:46] julioams (n=julioams@189.159.61.31) joined ##slackware. [23:46] julioams (n=julioams@189.159.61.31) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). 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[23:51] can someone help me with this hard drive SMART load cycle count issue? its too high for me on slackware, something like 15 times a minute [23:51] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:51] good evening everyone [23:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:52] Guest3515 (i=reallove@free-shell.eu) left ##slackware. [23:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-52-207.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [23:53] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [23:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "yup, the tornado picked up the semi truck but not the people with leather straps... movie fail" [23:54] s/evening/$your_local_time/ [23:55] you guys know of an app I can use to automatically take a screenshot from a movie every minute? something like takescreenshotofmovie -int 60s [23:55] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] oh, good evening godling :) [23:56] in norway, the time is actually 0600am atm [23:56] v3gard, watch the movie and use watch + scrot [23:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [23:57] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:57] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] since I have a folder with 100+ movies, I'd rather have an automated system :) [23:57] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [23:58] Hey folks. Suppose that I have a tagfile that is missing an entry. Does it simply skip over it or ask me whether to install? [23:58] wouldn't watch + scrot be, sorta automated. [23:58] v3gard browse freshmeat [23:58] veritos skiped [23:58] veritos or just installpkg *.tgz [23:58] or w.e. [23:58] whats a tagfile? [23:59] indicates optional or rewquired for slackw pkgs [23:59] ah [23:59] reccommended [23:59] BP{k}: yeah, but it would be much more time consuming compared to running a simple command that runs through the movie in a few minutes and takes screenshots [00:00] --- Fri Sep 11 2009