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[02:40] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [02:46] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:50] Hopsa (~Hopsa@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [02:50] kickback (~Unknown@122.163.110.165) joined ##slackware. [02:51] so apparently, broadcom finally pulled their heads out of their ass http://www.osnews.com/story/23786/BREAKING_BROADCOM_OPEN_SOURCES_WIRELESS_DRIVERS [02:52] yep - saw it this morning [02:52] another bastion has been breached [02:52] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:52] i didn't think it would happen [02:52] though not for their older devices if i read that right [02:53] hopefully they'll go one step further and actually put some employees on that [02:55] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [02:56] yeah, i wouldn't count on it though [02:56] otoh, we'd probably be better off if we just did things up ourselves [02:56] just sayin' [03:03] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [03:03] so its licensed under the bsd licence. great [03:04] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:04] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:05] keiyabet (~keiyabet@92.18.180.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:05] yeah i read it like that. so no such luck for the pci/pcie ssb backplace chips [03:05] *backplane [03:06] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.71.55) joined ##slackware. [03:10] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:11] Hey gizmos. [03:12] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-213.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:13] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [03:15] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [03:15] t/win 26 [03:16] t/fail [03:17] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] LSD`, are you on any other networks right now? [03:18] Slashnet by any chance? [03:18] nope [03:18] Alright. [03:19] Someone with your very rare three-letter nick over there. [03:20] keiyabet (~keiyabet@92.18.180.129) joined ##slackware. [03:21] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:25] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [03:31] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:32] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [03:32] i can not write on channel #mysql. irc says 'you can not write on this channel' what is the reason? [03:32] am i banned? [03:33] Its because it filters your text. [03:33] tmkd: you likely have to be registered to speak [03:33] You have to speak in perfect English grammar for it to write through. [03:33] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:33] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] /query nickserv help register [03:34] it only allows legitimate SQL queries through [03:34] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:34] lol [03:35] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:35] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [03:37] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:37] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [03:37] zaltekk: i use NickSrv instead of right 'NickServ' [03:38] that is why i was not identified [03:40] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [03:40] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:41] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: :) [03:44] ajevremovic (~ajevremov@79.101.159.81) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Hi [03:44] I need help with slackware current wakeup event [03:45] I need to execute simple script ('/sbin/hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda') when laptop is powered after sleep. [03:45] where should I put that code? [03:46] how do you call sleep? [03:46] (I've tried with rc.local but it's not executed after wakup) [03:46] mancha, I close lid or select 'Sleep' from KDE logout menu. [03:48] newslacker (root@99-195-153-133.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [03:49] if the lid is acpi event controlled you can have it set power mgmt on a lid_open event [03:49] as for the kde call to sleep, i don't know kde [03:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-66-176.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:49] mancha, lid_open is event for /etc/acpi/events/default file? [03:50] in /etc/acpi/events/lid [03:50] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:50] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-177-142.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [03:51] so you can call an action, say lid.sh that checks /proc/acpi/button/lid/LIB/state or something. [03:51] er /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state [03:52] mancha, thanks! [03:52] you're welcome [03:53] what kind of drive is it? [03:56] a friend has a problem, his XP-pc broke and he wants to recover his docs that is pass protected [03:56] anyone know anything about this? :D [03:57] a friend of a friend of a friend of mine wants to hack someone else's password protected docs, help? [03:57] hehe :D [03:57] lol [03:57] cant even find the pass-protected files! [03:58] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [03:58] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:01] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:07] ajevremovic (~ajevremov@79.101.159.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:09] madbear: SAM cracking? [04:10] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. 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I have the strangest thing happening: when I run lilo (/sbin/lilo), it messes up my /boot partition. The /boot partition is NFS, and every next time I try to mount it, I get "mount: Stale NFS file handle". Fsck fixes it, until the next time I run lilo [05:58] any ideas? [05:58] cabrilo: that's the problem - your /boot partition should NOT be nfs since it's required to boot up your system (by default, that's where the kernel stuff goes) [05:58] alisonken1lap: sorry.. forgot to mention. it is NOT nfs... it's ext2 [05:58] ok [05:58] that's the strange bit :) [05:59] also, I couldn't find an approriate mailing list for lilo... any ideas where to file the bug? [05:59] check your fstab - "grep boot /etc/fstab" [05:59] alisonken1lap: looks fine: /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 [06:00] rahulrp (1000@113.193.148.196) joined ##slackware. [06:00] hi everyone [06:00] cabrilo: what's you're partitionig scheme? use a pastebin [06:00] and /proc/mounts says this: /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw,relatime,errors=continue 0 0 [06:01] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [06:01] or type slowly [06:01] alisonken1lap: give me a minute... btw, what's an easy way to dump partitioning scheme? [06:01] fdisk -l [06:01] except for where you mount them [06:01] that would be fstab [06:01] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:01] mount, will show the mounts [06:01] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:02] rahulrp: yes, that will show what's mounted, but not always the setup [06:02] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [06:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:02] u can see the initial config file /etc/fstab [06:03] alisonken1lap: http://pastebin.com/pEiSheQq [06:03] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [06:03] tsccof (~tsccof@200-102-89-191.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:03] how about /etc/lilo.conf ? [06:04] btw - what version of slackware are you on? [06:04] hmmm whats the prob u see cabrilo [06:04] cannot boot? [06:04] alisonken1lap: 13.1, fresh install [06:05] nfs errors (nfs stale handles on /boot) after running lilo [06:05] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [06:05] and not nfs partition [06:05] alisonken1lap: hold on for /etc/lilo.conf [06:05] cabrilo, if u dont want to use nfs, u can disable the daemon [06:06] alisonken1lap: http://pastebin.com/2UdsJsAr [06:06] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Client Quit [06:06] rahulrp: it's not nfs [06:06] rahulrp: it's local ext2 partition [06:06] I don't even run nfs [06:06] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] can u show me the error u receive [06:06] s/u/you [06:07] ok - are you trying to do an nfs mount of something? [06:07] "mount: Stale NFS file handle" [06:07] alisonken1lap: no... mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /boot [06:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:07] no - some other stufff [06:07] alisonken1lap: same happens on startup (still, lilo reads it just fine... the system works) [06:08] alisonken1lap: no [06:08] brb guys [06:08] rahulrp (1000@113.193.148.196) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:08] alisonken1lap: well, not willingly... my nfs daemon is disabled [06:08] honestly, I don't even know much about nfs and never used it before :) [06:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:08] is your rpc daemons running? because something else may be trying to nfs mount to you [06:09] alisonken1lap: let me check [06:10] root@darwin:/etc/rc.d# ls rc.rpc -alh [06:10] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.4K Oct 14 2008 rc.rpc [06:10] not turned on [06:10] what version of slackwar? cat /etc/slackware-version [06:11] Slackware 13.1.0 [06:11] hmm [06:11] alisonken1lap: this is ONLY after I run /sbin/lilo.. otherwise, it mounts/unmounts normally [06:11] that's a new one on me [06:11] bitlord_ (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [06:12] I'm running 13.1 on several machines (including this laptop) [06:12] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:12] btw... am I weird to be using separate boot partition for lilo? perhaps that's an unusual scenario for it? [06:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:12] alisonken1lap: thanks for trying though... let me know if you get any ideas [06:12] nope - the only difference between how you partitioned from me is I put 1/boot, 2/, 3-swap/, 4/home [06:13] semantics, yeah [06:13] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.146.132) joined ##slackware. [06:13] alisonken1lap: which file system is your /boot? [06:13] not semantics - you have swap between /boot and / - I have swap between / and /home [06:13] ext2 [06:13] also, where did you install bootloader, into MBR or root? [06:13] mbr [06:13] same here [06:14] alisonken1lap: I mean.. figuratevly... semantic difference, but essentially the same thing [06:14] yep [06:14] what has NFS to do with this if you don't even run NFS? [06:14] slava_dp: good question [06:14] slava_dp: thats the problem - he runs lilo - gets NFS Stale Handle errors and has to fsck /boot - after that it's fine [06:15] that's some bs. [06:15] alisonken1lap, what is exec status of rc.nfsd? if exec, then chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.nfsd [06:15] rahulrp: it's already -x [06:16] i think this has something 2 do with screwed HDD [06:16] already checked - its 644 [06:16] can u check HDD status with smartcl [06:16] rahulrp: please give me an example syntax on hot wo run it [06:17] how to run it [06:17] i dontknow [06:17] wait [06:18] http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-smart-are-your-disks.html [06:18] ok, thanks [06:18] also, google is useless on this.. I see other people having similar problems, but nobody found a solution [06:18] smartctl -a /dev/sda [06:18] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:19] eein (~eein@ool-457e2532.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:19] may be this could help, also i think hdparm can help [06:19] google is always useless :) [06:19] http://pastebin.com/Agng8fFP [06:19] the problem is "why am I getting NFS stale handle errors after running lilo?" [06:19] alisonken1lap: exactly [06:20] looks like a good disk to me [06:20] well put, I'll play more with it [06:20] it took me a while to figure out that lilo is involved [06:20] alisonken1lap, i think some hdd sector within the boot path is wrongly pointing to the nfs thigny [06:20] can u post entire dmesg on pastebin [06:20] rpc is not running - so why is he getting nfs errors period? [06:21] and that would be a socket handle, not a filehandle [06:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [06:21] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF458.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] is alienBOB awake? [06:22] alisonken1lap: when I do ps aux | grep rpc, I get: [06:22] root 410 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 08:35 0:00 [rpciod/0] [06:22] root 411 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 08:35 0:00 [rpciod/1] [06:22] I don't even know what rpc is [06:22] remote procedure call - it's a protocol for sending remote commands (for things like nfs) [06:22] portmap also [06:23] hey anyways, does anyone know how to find the ip address to access a wifi nanostation, ubiquiti nanostation2 [06:23] cabrilo, can u dump dmesg [06:23] rahulrp: wired side or wireless side? [06:23] wired [06:24] rahulrp: uh... can you tell me what to grep? I'm ssh-in to that machine, so a bit tricky to copy/paste entire dmesg [06:24] dmesg > filename.txt should be good, and u can pastebin the file [06:24] rahulrp: are you plugged into it's network? [06:24] u can delete what u wanna hide from us [06:25] yes i am connected through it now alisonken1lap [06:25] ./sbin/route [06:25] rahulrp: how can I easily pastebin the file? [06:25] I access the machine via ssh [06:26] so I can't easily copy/paste the entire thing [06:26] does your terminal sessoin have a log option? [06:26] alisonken1lap: not that I know of [06:26] alisonken1lap, if i know correctly this box has 2 subnets, one which i am connected through now and another via which i can access that nanostation for telnet/ssh/ browser for config, and i want to know the latter subenet/ipaddr [06:27] alisonken1lap: actually, of course it does.. let me increase it to something useful [06:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:27] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [06:28] interesting - usually the only reason for a second subnet is for the wireless side or for a dmz - and if you can't access it via your subnet then you're on the dmz side [06:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:28] ok, my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/xL6Eea3Y [06:28] ok wait, let me explain my config first, i think i have not communicated enough correctly [06:29] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:30] technopolic (~intel@95.43.9.196) joined ##slackware. [06:30] looks like a normal dmesg output to me [06:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] my lap is connected to a linksys router wirelessly, this linksys router is connected to the ubiquiti blackbox POE adapter UBI-POE-15-8 thru a cat5, another cat5 runs from this POE adapter to the nanostation2, nanostation2 connects to the WAP of the ISP over air [06:30] alisonken1lap: yeah [06:31] alisonken1lap: can you explain lines 568-570 though? [06:31] sda3 is my / [06:31] Hello everyone, after upgrade to current some days ago every time I start slackware there is processes fc-cache, grk-uptade-cache which slow my system. [06:32] before, there wasn't that [06:32] line 361, knfsd? [06:32] it's just showing that it's trying ext2/3 and 4 to verify it's correct since they're related fstypes [06:32] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:33] knfsd is the kernel nfs driver I believe - it's not doing any nfs mounts, just the kernel interface for nfs [06:34] aha [06:34] btw if I stop that proccesses x stops working [06:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [06:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [06:36] root@darwin:/etc/rc.d# lsmod | grep nfs [06:36] no modules are even loaded [06:36] you're using huge I gather since there's a lot of drivers being initialized in the kernel [06:36] bcos u got knfsd, u need no modules cabrilo [06:37] rahulrp: it would be easier to read if you would type rather than using phone text message shortcuts [06:37] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [06:37] irc is not bandwidth pay-per-byte [06:37] technopolic, i am also running current and have no fc-cache running and [06:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:38] alisonken1lap, alright :) by the way can you help me with finding the other subnet/ipaddr of the poe adapter [06:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:38] alisonken1lap: yes... I was hoping to disable the module entirely and see what happens... [06:38] hm, I think that it can be runned from new-installed package...not sure [06:39] but it's very sloww [06:39] ... [06:39] ok, alisonken1lap, you've been of great help. rahulrp, thank you too. I'm guessing my next stop is Lilo's developers [06:39] all the best cabrilo [06:39] btw.. where does one go to discuss slackware? I only saw announcment mailing lists [06:42] rahulrp: as far as I know, poe adapters are just that - they don't subnet unless it's one of those special ones [06:43] i had one earlier which connected me to a wimax network and it had 2 subnets, that was by telestra. and now this one. [06:43] then i believe it is not the adapter, alisonken1lap , it is the nanostation i am referring to i believe. [06:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:44] ok - if you can log into your station, see what the default route it's using is [06:44] cabrilo: linuxquestions.org [06:45] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: You Welcome to join my channel ##Iraqi [06:46] i cannot log into it, i need to know which subnet it could be on, i do not know which subnet it is on for logging in administrative purposes, for connecting to the internet the subnet is 255.255.224.0 [06:46] technopolic (intel@95.43.9.196) left ##slackware. [06:46] alisonken1lap: my impression was that it's a novice community though... oh well, I'll see if there are people smarter than us there [06:46] i cannot try 224 other subnets :( [06:46] there sure are cabrilo [06:47] ok [06:47] rahulrp: you're not looking for 224 other subnets, you're just looking for the ip of the nanostation which, by the sounds of it, is the router for the station you're connected to [06:49] so - connect to your linksys, look at it's settings for the internet side and see if you can find the default route of the linsys which should be the nanostation [06:49] if i try logging in to it from the browser, i cannot access via ftp, telnet, ssh, : connection refused [06:50] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. 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[08:22] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-230-58.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:23] erik (erik@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:23] erik (erik@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [08:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:24] cabrilo: I'm still at work for another 1/2 hour, ys [08:24] yes [08:25] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [08:25] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [08:25] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [08:25] alisonken1lap: what time zone are you in? [08:25] pst - but I work graveyard [08:26] alisonken1lap: anyway... I found a workaround, but not really a fix... in fstab, I changed my boot partition line to read: /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 0 [08:26] last number 0, means it skips checks [08:26] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:26] mounts it alright though [08:29] In which series can I find vi? [08:30] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-129-19.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:31] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Axius, you can find vim under "ap" [08:32] vi isn't there [08:32] Ansa89: ok [08:34] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [08:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:35] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [08:37] motaro (~motaro@190.166.52.10) joined ##slackware. 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[09:16] b [09:17] c [09:18] cabrilo (1000@92.244.156.250) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:21] query: why might booting from grub2 cause the VT to be all black but still respond to keyboard inputs? [09:22] you're not using a KMS-enabled driver, right? [09:22] I don't think so. [09:22] Action: NaCl edits boot parameters [09:23] tried to login and 'startx'? [09:23] that works [09:23] but I'm tempted to say it's grub2's fault [09:23] it was working fine earlier. :P [09:23] which chipset? [09:23] nvidia [09:24] using nouveau ? [09:24] did you do something wrong? something that god didn't like? [09:24] no [09:24] Action: NaCl slaps adrien [09:24] are you sure ? :) eg, have you blacklisted it? [09:24] it's very much sounds KMS related; changed kernels / x.org goodies recently ? 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[09:29] it never displays anything [09:30] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:30] grub->black screen [09:30] got an intel chipset? [09:30] you're sure KMS is still blacklisted ? [09:30] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:30] What's kms? [09:30] kernel mode setting [09:31] thrice`: this just the module? [09:31] Do you guys know any perfect tech rss? [09:31] I think on slackware there is even a package that does it NaCl [09:31] I'm asking how to verify it [09:32] I don't have that package installed on my box, but probably an /etc/modprobe.d/ entry to blacklist nouveau [09:32] ok [09:33] it's there [09:33] module is never loaded [09:33] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl14-248-138.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:33] you could really force it off with nouveau.modeset=0 to grub [09:36] disabled modesetting period, still doesn't cooperate [09:36] sabalaba (~sabalaba@c-76-118-76-200.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:36] would dmesg say anything about this? [09:36] sabalaba (~sabalaba@c-76-118-76-200.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:38] not sure :( is it a custom kernel? [09:38] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:38] no other vga entries in your grub2 config? [09:38] nope [09:39] I do use the gfxterm, though... [09:41] disabling that worked [09:43] What kernel version does slackware current use? [09:43] same as 13.1 [09:43] http://www.rhisa.com/sites/default/files/desktop-screenshot-09-10-10.jpg You all jealous yet?! [09:43] adrien, 2.6.33.4 [09:44] thrice`: ok [09:44] huh. [09:45] thrice`: It doesn't want to set the resolution [09:46] no clue here. I don't touch grub2 unless I have to, nor have I used ancient framebuffer in awhile ;) [09:46] lfjob: too old kde version. i cant even remember last i saw the device manager looking like that :p [09:46] o.o [09:46] would rworkman's xorg packages make this work more automagically? [09:46] It's the KDE that comes with Slack 13.1. [09:46] NaCl, if you want to venture into KMS land, sure [09:48] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:49] thrice`: do you still feel kde is getting worst even with 4.5.x? [09:49] I own an intel video card, so kwin suffered quite a hit for me on 4.5.x [09:50] oh, i thought i was just on my netbook [09:50] nope; kwin guys blame x.org I think - quite retarded :p [09:51] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) joined ##slackware. [09:51] maybe i should upgrade my non intel machines too. although ive been meaning to postpone if for a later version. maybe nvidia works [09:51] ..better [09:51] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-148.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:54] or maybe not http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/09/performance-issues-one-script-and-call.html [09:55] Hm yeah sahko thanks for the link. I thought I was the only one with that prob. [09:56] thats for kde-4.5.x [09:56] http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/09/driver-dilemma-in-kde-workspaces-4-5/ is the bitch-fest :p [09:56] 4.4.x seems to suffer the same. [09:56] Nick change: xchg_chr -> xchg [09:57] yeah someone posted that @ LQ [10:00] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-45-17-24.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [10:02] Axius (~fd@92.84.27.45) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:03] Elfo (~n@83.240.167.193) joined ##slackware. [10:04] hi there [10:04] well at least here it doesnt freeze [10:04] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:05] it runs here too, just noticably slower at drawing windows, alt+tab, etc. than previous versions. effects also have to be disabled for it to be usable [10:05] on my intel card, at least [10:05] can anyone help me with wget? I'm trying to build a script that downloads a set of packages from a slackware mirror, but using only the package name (no version-arch-build) [10:06] yeah, same here. i havent disabled all effects yet, but the only one i use is the login one [10:06] i just would like compositing [10:07] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:08] kde 4.5.1 is buggy [10:08] it's brought my box to it's knees couple of times [10:08] one of my main bugs is moving windows about in grid desktop.. the window disappears then the box locks up and becomes completely unresponsive [10:10] hey thrice` [10:10] consiering moving back to 13.1 because of it [10:10] how well do those packages work? [10:11] this is using nvidia btw too [10:11] 4.4.5 works fine as well [10:11] NaCl, the x.org packages ? great :) I think if you plan to try out nouveau, a new kernel would be of benefit - rworkman posted a config + details in the LQ post [10:12] I do like kde 4.5.x better than 4.4.x myself :> [10:12] speed__ (~claudio@67.18.186.219) joined ##slackware. [10:12] alguem fala portugues aqui [10:12] but the changes are huge [10:12] speed__: nao [10:12] speed__: sim [10:12] it will take a while for me to get used to i believe [10:12] Kenjiro (1000@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [10:12] thrice`: yay building more kernels [10:12] hullo there [10:12] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: lfjob [10:13] Elfo meu querido sacas de cacti [10:13] speed__: english [10:13] hello happy people [10:13] thrice`: what LQ post? [10:13] anyonere here running kde-4.5.x? I'd like to remember how to make akonadi not to BOTHER me everytime I logon on KDE [10:13] phrag: start with a fresh user and see if that makes a difference. Pat was bitten by old stuff in his .kde too [10:13] Action: Kenjiro running slackware64-current with kde-4.5.1, just in case [10:13] speed__: english please. no, I never used cacti before [10:14] alienBOB: didnt here, with intel chip [10:14] alienBOB: on the netbook btw [10:14] (and this was bothering me for some time already. Don't know if before kde-4.5.0) [10:14] is yours running fine, with no lag etc? [10:14] Kenjiro, I had to disabled it explicitely in ~/.kde/config/akonadiserverrc (from memory, adjust accordingly :p ) to set startup to false [10:14] sahko: yes the issues with the OSS drivers and (lack of proper) GL support are well known by now [10:14] Elfo ok thanks [10:14] ok:/ [10:14] alienBOB: problems with xfce are also occasionally solveable by wiping the home dir [10:14] sahko: I am still on pre-13.1 on the netbook... [10:15] alienBOB: wise choice [10:15] thrice`: the weird thing is that it only bothers me at home, not here at work. Let me check that file [10:15] speed__: veja? nao portugues aqui, jeje [10:15] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:15] although 4.4.5 is fine on it [10:15] Well, my wife uses it more than I do... barely get the chance to nick it and do some upgrades [10:15] alienBOB: oh thanks for the tip, will try that tonight [10:15] alienBOB: i assume this feature works with other's ? [10:16] Hmm? [10:16] thrice`: would it be -> ~/.kde/share/config/nepomukserverrc ??? [10:16] Kenjiro, sounds right :> sorry, i'm at work at the moment [10:17] I compared that file here (work) with the one at home... and I had (there) the following: [10:17] keiyabet (~keiyabet@92.18.180.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:17] [Service-nepomukstrigiservice] [10:17] autostart=true [10:17] I hack that to false :) [10:17] so that apps only start it if it's really needed [10:17] Now I changed that to false. Let's see what happens when I get home ;) [10:18] thrice`: thanks for that :D [10:18] sure, kill it (pkill nepo) and log out and back in :> [10:18] I hope that solves the issue :D [10:18] the road will be blocked and fire brigade will try to put out the fire coming from your house [10:18] sahko: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw :P [10:19] let me try that over NX ;) [10:20] Kenjiro, it might work as-is for you, but I had to kill it manually once before restarting kde - then it didn't load any longer [10:20] we shall see :D [10:21] thrice`: how good is the GL in nouveau? [10:21] NaCl, sorry, this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/call-for-testing-xorg-updates-20100830-a-829336/ [10:22] alienBOB: i meant, i assume you have not experienced this issue? [10:22] NaCl, no clue :> I only have intel hardware. that post has a few users with nouveau seemingly with positive results [10:22] hm. [10:22] does anyone use kde 4.5.1, with compiz effects, and grid desktop view [10:22] phrag: tell me how to turn it on [10:22] phrag: grid windows, I have no idea what you were talking about [10:22] phrag, you use compiz from kde? [10:23] thrice`: btw, I believe that my grub problem was caused by a grub upgrade? [10:23] oh, compiz [10:23] well, the 'desktop effects' [10:23] compiz is a window manager :p [10:23] ok, then the desktop effects part of kde [10:23] NaCl, grub2 auto-updates configs from /etc/grub* or so? [10:23] However, KDE 4.4 to 4.5 migration only works if you never had one of the betas for 4.5 installed in the meantime... the .kde and .local directories will have had some incompatible stuff added in that case [10:23] thrice`: well, it worked fine [10:24] then I installed grub1 over it from opensuse [10:24] then I reinstalled it [10:24] it = grub2 [10:24] in desktop grid view (you can pan out and it displays your desktops in a grid... you can move windows from desktop to desktop, and has always worked well up until 4.5.0 [10:24] so the plot thickens! ;) [10:24] phrag: compiz effects? You use compiz, or the built-in KDE compositor? [10:24] in 4.5.0+, the window dissapears whenm you move to another desktop, then the box folds [10:24] phrag: ah, _that_ grid view... I'd have to try [10:24] alienBOB: no compiz, typo.. i meant just kde's desktop effects, nothing extra [10:24] alienBOB: i decided to remove .kde before upgrading to 4.5.1 . it is a bloody nightmare. many configs are placed elsewhere. theres been many many changes [10:24] phrag: what am I looking for? [10:24] alienBOB: i use it a lot [10:25] NaCl: erm, Grid view or Desktop view [10:25] However currently I am sick at home, behind a Windows computer, so I can not test right away [10:25] i am not at hom right now [10:25] alienBOB: ha [10:25] I'm looking at it now [10:25] NaCl: so if you put in grid mode, should be able to drag windows between desktops [10:25] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:26] some work, but some just get lost and bring the system to it's knees [10:26] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:26] hm [10:26] kslen^^ (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] NaCl: carefull.. it might crash your box [10:26] works for me [10:26] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:26] I think a new kernel + x.org in -current might help a little [10:26] NaCl: try it a few times, with different size windows/maximized windows [10:27] just want to confirm it's something in my .kde config, and not a generic bug [10:27] uhm... [10:27] I'm trying to figure out this grub problem at the same time xD [10:27] thrice`: i would hope so too [10:27] alienBOB: i meant ha at i'm at work and can't test, and your at home and can't test =P [10:28] pete_ (~pete@014.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:29] lfjob (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [10:29] might build latest kernel tonight anyway... want to get starcraft 2 working in slack [10:29] phrag you play sc2 too? [10:29] Action: NaCl doesn't even dare try that [10:29] Nick change: lfjob -> missyrissy [10:29] Action: NaCl plays sc2 [10:29] also.. kubuntu or pclinuxos(kde) for my GF ? [10:29] yeh i love it! =) [10:29] NaCl, on Windows? [10:29] yes [10:29] phrag, nice.. do either of you play ladder? [10:29] phrag kubuntu. [10:30] i had to spin up a windows box to play though, as didnt have internet at the time [10:30] Action: NaCl isn't that good [10:30] Ubuntu is Gnome and Kubuntu is KDE hence the k. [10:30] missyrissy: i don't just yet... not had enough online games... but i do plan on it [10:30] we should form a slackware alliance! >< [10:30] The hardest I can play on currently is hard. Very hard and insane cpu always kill me. :( [10:30] Action: NaCl is in gold [10:30] phrags at gmail com [10:30] add me =) [10:30] the Slackware clan [10:30] risa is mine, I forgot my character code but you are always free to pm me when I'm on, I'll add you. [10:30] yes yes! [10:30] xD [10:31] you can add me too [10:31] (if you want) [10:31] ping me your email (all you sc guys) [10:31] i'll add you tonight =) [10:31] i got adrian lamo on my battlenet list too... we should 0wn all his base =P [10:32] knob head [10:32] Srbo (~Srbo@pd95c4a4c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:32] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] :3 Any specific race you play? [10:34] always terran just now [10:34] thought i better master one race before spending time on the tohers [10:34] Oh.. I do random. [10:34] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [10:34] although done a lot of the single player stuff (when i've had no internet) so have played the other races a bit [10:35] missyrissy: add me and NaCl tonight =) [10:36] Okay, I will when I get on. [10:36] If not it means I haven't been on. [10:36] i'd love to smash lamo in the face, alternatively in the base =P [10:38] Srbo (~Srbo@pd95c4a4c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:38] that article to try oxygen from trunk seems interesting :> [10:39] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:41] dngr (~dngr@119.237.152.156) joined ##slackware. [10:41] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@c-98-212-175-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Elfo (n@83.240.167.193) left ##slackware. [10:43] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:44] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:44] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:48] well this is neat [10:48] alienBOB: are you around? [10:49] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:50] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:52] anyone a math wizz? that could lend me some help understanding some precalculus? [10:52] I'm guessing many might be able to :> ask away [10:54] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Google says 1+1 is 2, but I think it's 10. Who's right? [10:55] rob0, how large are the values of 1? [10:57] Solve by the substituion method: [10:57] x^2 + y^2=25 [10:57] next line under that [10:57] Channel flood from lotec -- kicking [10:57] y=2x [10:57] lotec kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:57] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] rob0: thats because you are bi-polar. [10:57] booo flood sorry [10:57] lotec, ok, where you see "y" , write "2x" :p [11:00] so i get 5x^2 = 25 [11:00] lotec: not really [11:01] I'm actually worried about computer science courses. :( [11:01] ok i think i got that one figured out [11:01] Anything could be considered cheating in computer science. [11:01] how about this ? [11:01] 2x^2!=2(x^2) [11:01] rather, (2x)^2!=2(x^2) [11:02] What are you doing precalc for? [11:02] lotec, why not solve by use of A^2 + B^2 = C^2 ? [11:02] just take the square of 25. done [11:03] this suddenly turned into #math [11:03] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Hi [11:03] nachox, shh. you'll scare away the rabbits [11:03] Does slackware include klibc? [11:03] i just need help :( i dont get some of this [11:03] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] fuzzbawl: that only works with right triangles [11:03] fuzzbawl, alice took the rabbits, not me [11:04] wait, it *is* a right triangle...the equation he gave us is a circle with raius 5 [11:04] lotec, you're right :> [11:04] nachox, and what did you do with alice? [11:05] lotec, so, x^2=5, x=5^(1/2) [11:05] this more like #badmath or #forgotmath [11:05] haha [11:05] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:05] I like #whoneedsmath [11:05] a nice side-track for a friday morning at work ;) [11:05] fuzzbawl, she is tied up somewhere around here [11:05] ill work on this other one, it is find the length of a triangle, and no idea how to write this out [11:05] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [11:05] wait a sec [11:05] why not get the first equation in the normal form [11:06] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [11:06] Hi [11:06] you can't :> [11:06] Does slackware include klibc? [11:06] no [11:06] nachox, pics or it didn't happen [11:06] x^2 + 2x^2 - 25 = 0 [11:07] fuzzbawl, :P [11:07] Skywise, that's wrong :> [11:07] crocket: no, we ship the full glibc [11:07] Can I install klibc? [11:07] (x + 5)(x - 5) = 0 [11:07] lotec: r=5, well, do you know why you need it ? [11:07] Skywise, try again [11:08] crocket: installing it is senseless. [11:08] lotec: well, there are different ways of doing it [11:08] (2x)^2 is not 2x^2 [11:08] YOu want to create an embedded or minimal Slackware crocket? [11:08] alienBOB : I want to install v86d for uvesafb. [11:08] v86d is a userspace utility for uvesafb [11:08] i'd use the sine formula to find out exactly what x is [11:09] And that needs klibc? [11:09] maybe [11:09] I am not sure [11:09] yea, i know there are different ways, i am just trying to understand this. The teacher is being of little or not help [11:09] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:09] I am not sure whether it requires klibc [11:10] lotec: the equation is a circle of radius 5, you're solving for the sides of the triangle rising from x axis [11:10] lotec: it's a 30-60-90 triangle [11:10] alienBOB, Look at this http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/ [11:11] lotec: this is trig(well, precal includes trig) [11:11] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] uvesafb doesn't require klibc, it works with glibc [11:12] alienBOB, specifying "video=uvesafb:1024x768-32,mtrr:3,ywrap" in lilo.conf wouldn't enable uvesafb. [11:12] edthix (~ed@175.137.232.66) joined ##slackware. [11:12] Therefore, I see a raw console. [11:13] what arch are you on if you don't mind me asking? [11:13] x86-64 [11:13] x86-64 can run v86d [11:13] asarch (~asarch@187.132.117.254) joined ##slackware. [11:13] the regular framebuffer should work [11:13] and why are you after uvesafb? [11:14] I think uvesafb is better than vesafb somehow. [11:14] crocket: http://repo.or.cz/w/v86d.git/blob/HEAD:/README [11:14] uvesafb showed a better performance back in time. [11:14] So, you can use glibc without issues [11:14] back in time [11:14] alienBOB, OK [11:14] adrien, just months ago [11:14] crocket: which graphic part? [11:14] adrien, Can you be more specific? [11:15] framebuffers are mostly extinct [11:15] nvidia, intel, radeon... [11:15] thrice`: actually, that's the favored way for i8xx cards from intel now... [11:15] Compiling against glibc will result in a dynamically linked executable that is not suitable for inclusion in initrds. [11:15] adrien, kinda - I think they are trying to bring back UMS stuff for older intel cards [11:15] ... unless you include glibc libraries into the initrd as well [11:15] thrice`, How can I see a console screen with a pre-defined resolution without framebuffers? [11:16] thrice`: that was a possibility but they went for shadowfb in the end [11:16] padhu (~padhu@175.40.39.11) joined ##slackware. [11:17] We still need terminals and therefore framebuffers. [11:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:17] KMS is superior, should be used if you can [11:17] (intel cards, and radeon cards, nvidia ones is less recommended) [11:18] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: missyrissy [11:19] ok [11:20] adrien : I use nvidia proprietary driver. I don't have KMS here. [11:20] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] I tried to use nouveau, but it has bugs with G210. [11:21] is nvidia compatible with uvesafb? [11:21] yes [11:21] Since uvesafb doesn't use hardware acceleration, it can live with nvidia. [11:21] vesafb can live with nvidia, too. [11:21] makes sense [11:22] I'm used to nvidia preventing everything else [11:22] as for nouveau, support for fermis (yours is fermi?) is very recent [11:23] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:24] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] fermis? [11:26] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:26] pete_ (~pete@014.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:27] Fermi GPUs, newer nvidia cards [11:28] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] but nvidia's current branding is definitely opaque (probably on purpose) so Fermis might be G4xx cards instead [11:29] well, I just got my answer by accident: GTK 470 and 480 [11:29] and some more 4xx, but not all it seems [11:30] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:31] edthix (ed@175.137.232.66) left ##slackware. [11:31] mine is G210 [11:31] I think it is just nouveau's deficiency. [11:32] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:36] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:37] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:37] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] mancha: thanks for pointing me to hostapd yesterday, i got everything configured today and working as intended with minimal google-fu [11:41] mag0o, i am very glad it worked out! :) [11:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] grazymax (~grazymax@host7-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:47] how is nouveau now... useable? [11:47] been using it for months [11:48] now, get a recent kernel (at least .34), get rworkman's packages for xorg-server-1.9 [11:48] good 2D, saves power when compared to nv or no driver or nvidia in console [11:49] nvidia in X saves more power on battery and is faster for 3D (not for 2D) [11:49] i run an i7 3.8GHz desktop.. power not an issue =P [11:49] (when on AC, it looks like you can't really get it to save power) [11:49] phrag: well, heat would be one if you have a high-end card [11:49] :p [11:49] phrag: which one btw? [11:50] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [11:52] phrag, nice pics at fb [11:52] shogun (~shogun@187.13.185.239) joined ##slackware. [11:52] shogun (shogun@187.13.185.239) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [11:52] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:52] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:53] Nicce (~Nicke@178.72.10.19) joined ##slackware. [11:54] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] the famous windows DLL security issue now extends to EXEs as well. they're up shit creek [11:57] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] extends? it's only ever been for EXEs [11:58] but meh [11:58] huh? [11:59] we must be talking about different things. [11:59] honestly, if someone can write to your disk, to the folder of the program, then it might as well write t othe program [11:59] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:59] search path and load order? [12:00] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:01] i can find a site that explains the issue if you wish to learn more about it [12:01] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!imarambio@200.68.83.121: Channel Guidelines: http://is.gd/bYfOG | Logs: http://is.gd/bYfRK | Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ || http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | http://slackware.com/getslack | Torrent: http://is.gd/bYfM0 | Slackware 13.1 Released | Security: mozilla, yes, all their products [12:02] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:02] ubuntu (~ubuntu@174-23-43-192.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] I have a question how to see unicode txt files on linux slackawre 12 [12:02] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:03] less bleh.txt ? [12:03] ubutntu, several things have to happen, you need to set the right locale and also be in unicode aware terminal [12:03] nice topic =P [12:03] nachox: oh thankyou 8o) [12:03] *be in a [12:04] nachox: most the best times i was partying without a camera =) [12:04] phrag, the one with you is your gf? [12:04] adrien: oh sorry, i7 920 [12:04] nachox: yeh =) [12:04] mancha: I know about it but I don't think that's the real issue: if it is possible for anyone to write to, say, C:\\Program\ Files\\Mozilla\ Firefox, and to put a "bad" library there, it's as if someone could write to /usr/bin/ [12:04] you both look happy [12:05] I see the text file but like .t.s.d.g.h the words are seperareted by dogs [12:05] aww thankyou 8o) i miss it already =) [12:05] dots [12:05] the solution is not to prevent the load of the dll from that folder, it's too prevent "anonymous" writes to that folder [12:05] phrag: slow :p [12:06] adrien the issue is not as simple as you're suggesting since the problem is the plants are in places you want to be able to write to [12:06] that is why people refer to it as binary planting. [12:06] there are a few sites which explain it nicely, let me know if you'd like to find out more about this. [12:06] Nick change: ubuntu -> Paper [12:07] Paper: checkout iconv [12:07] iconv --from-code=ISO-8859-1 --to-code=UTF-8 iso.txt > utf.txt [12:07] what does it do [12:07] adrien: me or the cpu? =P [12:07] phrag: I meant the CPU but you're right: both :P [12:07] Paper: converts to iso 8859-1 [12:07] (readable) [12:08] adrien: it's a year old, but runs cool at 3.8Ghz.. not that slow =) [12:08] phrag: I know ;-) [12:08] wow dat worked [12:08] mancha: it includes System32 and friends, you shouldn't write there [12:09] I did -f unicode not that numbers [12:09] the only place is '.', but that's about it [12:09] adrien, we must be talking about different things, because if you're talking about what i am thinking of then you don't make any sense :) [12:11] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [12:22] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [12:23] uvesafb was compiled into the kernel and couldn't find /sbin/v86d since the root file system was not mounted at the time uvesafb looked for /sbin/v86d. [12:23] A solution could be to include /sbin/v86d in initramfs. [12:23] It means v86d must be compiled with klibc. [12:24] glibc can't get into initramfs [12:24] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Or [12:25] you can compile completely statically [12:25] but it should be possible to simply include glibc (or is it a size problem [hum]) [12:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:26] asarch (~asarch@189.188.157.185) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Cool_C (~master@f125160.upc-f.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:28] hmm [12:28] how can I do it? [12:28] thrice`: really? like what? [12:28] v86d doesn't provide many configure options. [12:28] gotta be better than opensuse practice [12:28] adrien : you can try building v86d yourself. [12:31] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:31] hiya. i'm trying to sync a palm pda with kde. i remember there used to be a program called kpilot and i think also some options in the control panel. in my current installation of slack 13.1 however it's nowhere to be found? [12:32] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@c-98-212-175-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] Nicce (~Nicke@178.72.10.19) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:37] phrag: pm me your e-mail [12:39] o/ * [12:39] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:40] crocket: CFLAGS would do [12:40] rather, LDFLAGS (or both) [12:42] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:43] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:43] adrien : I just package klibc. [12:43] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:46] I just eat lunch [12:46] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [12:46] phrag, disslike suse? [12:46] adrien : make KLIBCKERNELSRC=/usr/src/linux-$(uname -r); make install INSTALLROOT=$DEST KLIBCKERNELSRC=/usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) would work. [12:47] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:47] thrice`: the problem lies with grub [12:48] installing an earlier version worked perfectly fine [12:54] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] NaCl, really? sure it wasn't differences in configs adding the gfxload stuff? [13:01] nopr [13:01] same config, different grub versions, earlier one worked [13:02] ok :> I thought grub re-wrote the config on its own [13:03] only if you tell it to [13:04] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [13:06] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] vbox for slakware doesn't work... anyone know why [13:06] It does work [13:06] anyone know the program i need to make slakware run under a guest for a debian/ubuntu host [13:06] oic [13:06] Why mine doesnt? [13:07] works fine for me [13:07] vbox works for me to [13:07] masterBIGwilly: any error message? I can confirm that it works along with everyone else [13:07] masterBIGwilly, you download it at slackbuilds.org? [13:08] jgeboski, i did it before... i was about to make another guest try and wanted to know if anyone got the problem also ... crashdata,i dled it at slackware.org .... [13:09] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:09] masterBIGwilly, slackware.org? didnt know its there download it at slackbuild.org [13:09] masterBIGwilly: I don't see how you downloaded it at slackware.org [13:09] slackbuild.org doesn't even open for me [13:09] bizarre [13:10] try getting sbopkg [13:10] slackbuilds.org [13:10] notice the s [13:11] w/ or without 's' should work [13:13] ken@kens_house:~$ host slackbuild.org [13:13] slackbuild.org has address 208.67.159.181 [13:13] ken@kens_house:~$ host slackbuilds.org [13:13] slackbuilds.org has address 208.67.159.181 [13:13] oh [13:13] Action: surrounder hangs his head in shame [13:13] I'm so sorry! [13:14] surrounder fails [13:15] Action: surrounder sets sail for fail [13:17] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:18] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:18] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Action: BP{k} torpedos surrounder [13:20] lol [13:21] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:23] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [13:24] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:24] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) joined ##slackware. [13:25] lol [13:28] boo_boo_ (~steve@212.183.140.20) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:29] The freedom to run the program for any purpose. [13:29] The freedom to study how the program works and adapt it to your needs. [13:29] The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor. [13:29] The freedom to improve the program and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits. [13:30] the price of freedom is eternal vigilance [13:30] freedom isn't free [13:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:31] ^silence^ (~irssi@138.199.64.127) joined ##slackware. [13:32] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.149.49) joined ##slackware. [13:32] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.149.49) left irc: Changing host [13:32] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:32] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:32] offtopic, nes coffee table :) http://www.thisblogisabadidea.com/post/1094707193/nintendo-coffee-table [13:33] dead_channel (~here@s205-206-249-173.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:56] boo_boo_ (~steve@212.183.140.20) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:58] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [13:58] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:59] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@70.92.9.180) joined ##slackware. [14:03] padhu (~padhu@175.40.39.11) left irc: Quit: bye.............. [14:05] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] thrice`: sorry, left work.. dislike suse because of it's spurious history with MS [14:09] andre_ (~andre@dslb-084-059-123-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] it has a neuron disease ? [14:09] i did use opensuse on a desktop for around 6 months... it got bloated and i broke it [14:09] the desktop ? [14:09] no, opensuse [14:10] or should i say, opensuse's pkg management broke itself [14:10] jonsmith1982 (~jon@89.241.6.199) joined ##slackware. [14:10] i am debating which distro to install on my gf's laptop [14:10] why would you be debating that? [14:10] i'm toying with pclinuxos or kubuntu [14:11] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:11] Why does your girlfriend want linux on her laptop? Seems like that would help you decide and us give advice [14:11] ..i've secretly not ruled out slackware , but she doesn't know that yet.. [14:11] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Slobad: because she's my gf =P [14:11] phrag: zenwalk no option anymore ? [14:11] concidering she apparently know what slackware is, shouldn't she be in on the decision? [14:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [14:12] There is no reason that I (as a fairly new noob) can see that she wouldn't be fine with Slackware. I gave my family an old laptop with Slackware on to use when their computer broke and they are fine with it. [14:12] my entire family run slackware =P [14:13] you probably just need to setup a weekly cron job to have slackpkg update/upgrade automatically or such [14:13] to make sure they get security updates [14:13] Sounds like she'd have her own support group if anything was too difficult then - which I wouldn't think it would be [14:13] Slackware Phrag... nothing else will do [14:13] I'm actually thinking about giving FreeBSD a try again [14:13] I haven't used it in a few years [14:13] surrounder: not aware of it's current status nor purpose.. i should check that out [14:14] zaltekk, I wouldn't bother - it's still horrible [14:14] Slobad: why do you say that?(i honestly an interested) [14:15] i've never used it on my laptop because it use to not support my wireless card, and nvidia's x64 driver didn't exist yet(it's out of beta now) [14:15] strangely enough openbsd already supported my wireless card at the time, though. [14:15] I found hardware support to be miles behind. Ports was fine all be it slow. The default environment is so far beyond anything that resembles workable that it really doesn't seem worth the time (and after putting said time in... wasn't!) [14:16] Cool_C (~master@f125160.upc-f.chello.nl) left irc: Quit: out! [14:16] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [14:16] hmm. well, i just seconded the hardware support part. [14:16] I know people like it and that it must be doing something right... but it did absolutely nothing for me [14:17] you should have seen my face when it didn't have tab completion! :-D [14:17] that's just the standard shell [14:17] i don't remember if ports was exactly slow for me. would you say it's slower than using slackbuilds? as in the port system is the slow part and not the building itself? [14:17] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:17] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:17] i do know that freebsd is suppose to be a "base system" to which you add things you want. much the opposite of slackware. [14:18] 20:11:45 zaltekk : strangely enough openbsd already supported my wireless card at the time, though. [14:18] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:18] surrounder, Yeah I know... I changed it. Went looking for why they did that and it all makes sense. I guess I'm just sticking with Linux becaue I know it more from the start (even though I don't know anywhere near enough). If I had started out on bsd it might have been different [14:18] zaltekk: openbsd put a lot of effort in wireless card (reverse engineering and so) [14:19] surrounder: i noticed. i just wish i could use a good accelerated graphics driver with openbsd...like that'll happen :P [14:19] surrounder, You an openbsd user then? [14:19] Slobad: not at the moment, although I really like the *BSDs [14:19] it's nearly impossible to browse the web with my laptop's 1920x1200 lcd without acceleration [14:19] exit [14:19] too many exits from shell :) [14:20] alisonken1home: ctrl+d ! [14:20] :P [14:20] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:20] ssh via tunnel to a work server followed with another ssh into another server [14:20] :) [14:20] hehe [14:21] alisonken1home: i have screen at home ssh into a school access computer which sshs into an interior computer which runs sceen which runs irssi [14:21] :P [14:21] then there's the ssh to the base work server followed by another ssh into another server followed by another ssh into a console server to log via serial port onto another server [14:21] that's a typical setup for us [14:22] sshfest! o// [14:22] i have to double ssh because the external access computer is sparc/sunos [14:22] and it feels weird to use, so i ssh into a centos box [14:23] Slobad: what hardware issues did you run into with freebsd? [14:23] motaro (~motaro@190.166.52.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:26] Axius (~fd@109.97.49.250) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:26] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-178-203-220-187.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Do you think it's better to connect to the internet that using a router? If i'll use a router then somebody else will use the same external ip, and may be sloppy, so theier identity will be linked to certain websites [14:31] it's a wireless router [14:31] i want as much anonimity and security as possible [14:32] samfisher: that made positively no sense whatsoever, congrats! [14:32] huh? [14:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:33] I think that's what adaptr said :) [14:33] v4nelle (~van@79.107.229.243) joined ##slackware. [14:33] you need a router to connect to the internet. I have no idea what the rest of the question means [14:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] right now i connect directly to the internet [14:34] no router or other networking device [14:34] that's VERY inadvisable [14:35] depends on how well you know your slackbox and network security :) [14:35] why? i use slackware [14:35] i'm not a guru, but i can manage things [14:36] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] the thing is, i feel more unsecure with the wifi router [14:36] I am a guru, I am godz [14:37] adrien: well, at least you run slack :) [14:37] alisonken1home: maybe that I secretely run ubuntu inside a virtualpc virtual machine on windows 98 (osr1)! [14:41] I know I "should" install windows first... but is there any way to install windows and keep slackware on here without having to reinstall slackware after installing windows? *deep breath!* [14:43] you won't need to reinstall slackware, just have lilo rewrite the mbr [14:43] backup mbr or recreate it (boot on the installer) [14:43] adrien: windows 98 cannot run a hypervisor [14:43] at some point, I actually thought about using BIOS' "anti-virus" feature to prevent windows from installing to the MBR :P [14:43] you're caught red-fingered [14:44] adaptr: full virt ;-) [14:44] ah, so ...not windows 98 then [14:44] So I install windows and then get into the slackware partition with a live cd to re run lilo? [14:44] ubuntu in virtual pc with full virt in win 98 ;-) [14:44] adaptr: I believe we understand that - he shoudln't need the tag on that one [14:45] yes [14:45] alisonken1home: how am I to know how well you purist slacknerds know any windows OS ? [14:45] for all I know you think there hasn't been any improvement since 3.1 [14:45] there hasn't [14:45] because slackware was SLS when win98 was out :) [14:45] and there definitely has been - your users can have passwords now [14:45] how could it be improved? It's perfection [14:46] adaptr, can have... don't have to :-D [14:46] which means those of us who have been around to remember win98 would already know that [14:46] alisonken1home: SLS ? [14:46] mancha, take it that yes was in response to my question> [14:46] adaptr: you failed your slack history [14:47] Slobad, use the slackware install disk - don't need a live cd [14:47] alisonken1home: I have no slack history. assume I don't care :) [14:47] yes [14:47] Slobad, after you install windows, boot slack cd, mount your / in /mnt, chroot /mnt, run lilo [14:48] of course you should probably add a windows option to lilo.conf too [14:48] chroot.. that's a new one. Will man that and follow your advice. Read in the Slackbook I should install windows first but assumed there must be a way. Glad to hear it's not too hard either [14:48] dive, sounds like an idea :-P [14:48] helps [14:49] Do you think windows will ever stop doing this whole bootloader "I am, the one and only" crap? [14:49] who cares [14:49] you can add other options to hte windows bootloader [14:49] not as long as they have a perceived need to dominate, no [14:49] whether it is capable of booting anything else....that's another question [14:50] mancha, A man of few words tonight but the ones that do get spoken are to the point :-) [14:50] Slobad-- #for bringing up THAT song [14:50] adaptr, You love it [14:51] I can't get it out of my head for hours when I hear it [14:51] I HATE it [14:51] adaptr, Slobad++ [14:51] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: @Out [14:54] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF458.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:54] buenaluna (~user@190.18.21.231) joined ##slackware. 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[15:20] I need an mmc form factor sdio wifi card accepting any suggestions if you guys know of any that work [15:20] in any dir, i think [15:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:21] byteframe, any dir and yes. [15:22] Ok. Thanks. [15:23] Just make sure it's allowed in httpd.conf. [15:23] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:24] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [15:25] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:29] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-187.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. 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[15:50] maybe I am thinking of dtach, but i thought it was easy to swap how windows are split [15:50] zaltekk: https://wiki.slugbug.org.uk/Screen <--- might have some tips for that [15:50] i'm not seeing it in the man page [15:50] andre_ (~andre@dslb-084-059-123-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:50] er.. wait.. hrm it redirected.. [15:50] ahh yeah its there [15:51] i am getting an error while creating a hard link [15:51] ln: `/home/temp1/': hard link not allowed for directory [15:51] doh, well, Dominian, i'm playing around in a nouveaufb environment...i guess i can try to use links [15:51] doing this as root [15:51] zaltekk: oh bummer [15:51] ferdna: er.. why are you doing a hardlink? [15:51] -t [15:51] i want a user to have access to this folder outside of his home directory [15:51] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:51] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] oh misread [15:52] You can do that with a symlink [15:52] ferdna: the error seems crystal clear to everyone else here [15:52] hack [15:52] heck [15:52] m00p (~topcat@212.150.147.230) joined ##slackware. [15:52] ln -s /home/temp1 /home/homeuser? [15:52] what does man ln say? ;) [15:53] How do you wipe out /tmp on every boot? [15:53] never mind... it worked [15:53] lol [15:53] Mowah (~Mowah@c-f685e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:53] asarch you can have an rm command in rc.local [15:53] Is there any boot script for that? [15:53] Dominian: hmm. it doesn't seem to explain their either. i says how to get the vertical split that i have...but that isn't really desirable on a 16:10 monitor [15:53] ahhhh [15:54] it must have been the dtach program that i used to do it before [15:54] screen will do veritcal splits.. [15:54] I just don't remember how [15:54] well, i don't see it in the man page [15:54] i'll try looking again though [15:55] you can find a patch to screen to do vertical splits, zaltekk [15:55] well, i'm quite sure now that i've tried it that what i wanted was a different program than screen [15:56] I'll do it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local_shutdown [15:56] rm -r /tmp/* [15:56] zaltekk, yeah emacs does it for example. if you want it in screen you will need to patch [15:56] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:56] mancha: well, like i said before, i am almost positive it was with dtach [15:56] err...no, tmux. not dtach [15:57] i don't understand your point [15:57] the bsd thing [15:57] mancha: that i need to install tmux :P [15:57] i see. [15:57] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:57] i've not played with tmux much. 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"[drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id [16:33] it's bad. [16:34] sometimes mouse pointer dissappears completely on my laptop [16:34] i suspect that this message is somehow relates to this [16:34] what video card, and noveau by chance? [16:34] i have two video cards [16:35] lshw output: [16:35] hi [16:35] hm [16:35] http://paste.org.ru/?vpk0z0 [16:35] pupiteee (~p@109-93-232-133.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:35] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] can slackware run on one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Pdp-11-40.jpg [16:37] v4nelle (~van@79.107.229.243) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:38] GArik, have you tried with agpmode=-1 [16:38] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:38] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:38] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [16:39] or disabling kms to see if it is related to kernel modesetting? [16:39] i can boot 33.4 kernel [16:39] how does that help? [16:40] it have no kms ) [16:40] 33.4 has kms [16:40] i'll try to boot with agpmode=-1. ok? [16:40] we need less variables not moar variables [16:42] what is the command that searches for programs containing the search criteria in either the name or the description of it? [16:43] It's not which or whereis [16:43] apropos? [16:43] Thank you! [16:43] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: missyrissy [16:45] Kenjiro (1000@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Quit: zarpei [16:47] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [16:51] does changing the values in umask stay saved across reboots? [16:52] john_dee (~id@95-29-11-47.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:54] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:54] slobad23_: if you changed the script that sets it [16:54] how would i take a screenshot of my framebuffer console? =/ [16:54] i never remember how [16:55] zaltekk, I guess I should find that script [16:56] slobad23_: /etc/profile or whatever for bash [16:57] ta [17:00] tsccof (~tsccof@187-4-28-25.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:01] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:02] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) joined ##slackware. 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[17:16] Nick change: trone_ -> trone [17:19] So I plug in a new device and I am comfortable with the mount command... but how do I know the name the device has been given in the dev directory? [17:19] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] slobad23_: you look in dmesg [17:20] are you running kde ? [17:20] slobad23_: or the end of /var/log/messages [17:21] adaptr, most of the time yes... but DVD is not mounting automatically. Figured this was just the Slackware way [17:21] if you're running knotify it should just appear on your desktop [17:21] slobad23_: that would be a switch in the KDE CP [17:22] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Thanks for the help. Slackware isn't hard... it's just different. Loving it though. [17:23] slackware is user friendly [17:23] its just careful selecting its friends [17:25] The linux action show guys should do a show about it... give it some press. I think that more people who try linux should start here. I wish I had and not let ubuntu warp my linux view. [17:25] y3llow_ (~y3llow@111-240-211-202.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:26] ubuntu !== fast and lacking crashes [17:26] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-211-202.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:26] pupiteee (~p@109-93-232-133.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:26] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [17:27] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-218-98.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] I started linux using slackware 4.0 or something like that. [17:27] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-218-98.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] linux action show guys trash anything that is not ubuntu [17:27] it got hacked [17:27] :) [17:28] frikking sendmail, but I didnt have it setup properly, so he tried to email himself my stuff, it never left the box. [17:28] lmao.... [17:28] ubuntu is good [17:28] heh nod [17:28] i liike slack too [17:28] but it's all about the freebsd [17:28] masterBIGwilly, Why so? [17:28] masterBIGwilly: you misspelled open [17:29] lmao [17:29] you're funny, yoyoned [17:29] This channel is the one linux channel I have been on that toots the bsd horn all the time [17:30] I just run on laptops all the time... would open bsd be happy with a new laptop? [17:30] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-46-231.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:31] bzzzzz (~user@ip-193.net-85.239.152.ktbac.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] slobad23_: probably. The BSD community seems to favor laptops, but just like linux, the amount of support depends on how cooperative and open the hardware manufacturers are [17:33] anyone making wifi sdio mmc cards, need to be shot. thanks [17:33] slobad23_: OpenBSD is currently doing a lot of work on acpi. Laptops should be well supported in the next release [17:33] why openbsd for a laptop anyhow? [17:33] never really seemed like a consumer distro, more of a backend piece. [17:34] slobad23_: openbsd suspend/resume still sucks majorly [17:34] although it is currently being improved [17:34] Is there a slackware essentials equivelant to openbsd? why would i use that over slackware/ [17:35] Don't tell me I have spent my time getting to grips with Slackware only to find the very people that are using it also use openbsd on their machines and prefer it :-P [17:35] WillyJ (~4Strings@151.55.6.206) joined ##slackware. [17:36] ^silence^ (~irssi@138.199.64.127) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:36] WillyJ (4Strings@151.55.6.206) left ##slackware. [17:37] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-170.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:41] what essentials [17:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:41] I think he means /var/log/packages/man-pages* ? [17:41] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] yeah, not in the mood to WAG [17:42] :> [17:42] slobad23_ (~slobad23@95.144.105.58) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:43] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Quit: 221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.4-dev [17:44] where's rob0 ? that's his hobby [17:46] what account is associated with UID 1 ? [17:46] dustybin: that would depend on your installation [17:46] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [17:46] ok [17:46] try "id 1" [17:47] 'It should be noted that 'root' or the administrator of a GNU/Linux system can also be referred to as UID 1 (userid 1) and I will refer to it correctly as UID 1 rather than root during this. The name 'root' is only a name connected to the userid and it can be anything (although it very rarely is).' [17:47] not 0? [17:48] yes. [17:48] 0 [17:48] 1 = bin. [17:48] dustybin: where are you reading that ? whatever it is, it's incorrect [17:48] eeek [17:48] http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~fac075/unix-perms.php [17:48] id root [17:48] uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel) [17:48] yar, root is 0 [17:48] 666(badguy) [17:49] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.67.233) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] ;) [17:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.90.6) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:51] do you guys know what ACL is [17:52] access control list [17:52] i dont understand it [17:53] drwxr-x--- drwxr-x---+ [17:53] what is the difference ? [17:54] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.235.145) joined ##slackware. [17:55] man setfacl [17:56] man getfacl [17:56] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:56] and of course man acl [17:56] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:57] i dont see the point in it [17:57] reading a man page is a bit like reading chinese [17:58] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:58] only chinese makes sense :D [17:59] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:00] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:01] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:02] killmsft (~killmsft@209.236.250.102) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Roin (~florian@p5B2BD139.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[18:36] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@70.92.9.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:38] lol [18:38] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Does anyone actually use seamonkey? Why is it still around [18:39] some of seamonkeys libs are used by other programs i think [18:40] That's why there is seamonkey-solibs, a separate package which isn't the whole suite. [18:40] ya, but maybe they decided to add seamonkey to the list also because they have the libs, idk [18:41] some would probably ask why install those libs if we dont have seamonkey, but no idea [18:41] the minute it gets taken out you'll have people asking why there's no seamonkey! [18:42] isnt seamonkey more secure than FF? [18:44] KaMii: is it? [18:44] thumbs: idk that was my question [18:44] KaMii: why do you think it's more secure, exactly? [18:44] secure as in beer [18:45] '?' is a question mark, when you see it, it means there was a question being asked [18:45] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:45] kamii: there was the answer without a period [18:45] the confusion was because you said "isn't it more secure?" rather than "is it more secure?" [18:45] KaMii: and I answered with a question that should have indicated a hint. [18:46] funny... you guys are geniuses half the time, and morons the other half... [18:46] KaMii: mancha is right - had you asked the proper question, you would have gotten another answer. [18:47] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [18:48] KaMii: the question is: can you rely on the frequency and severity of security advisories to compare similar products? [18:49] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:50] that might be your question, but it was not mine, and if your going to play the 'ignorant' game, than just ignore me [18:50] KaMii: I'm not playing any game. [18:50] KaMii: I want to help you get an answer for your question. [18:52] jonsmith1982 (~jon@89.241.6.199) joined ##slackware. [18:52] frk (~jcn@189.58.221.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:53] its time for a Friday night song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BH7poMtPVU [18:53] wtf [18:53] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl14-248-138.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: [18:54] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:55] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:56] cmair (~cmair@host248-27-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:56] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [18:57] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:57] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-230-58.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-125-116.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:58] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:00] gabriel_ (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [19:00] stallman is crazy LOLOLOOLOLOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S76pHIYx3ik&feature=related [19:00] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-4-35.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] he has the beard for it [19:04] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:05] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [19:07] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-4-35.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-149.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:08] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] right vivivi [19:09] He can keep his church of emacs [19:10] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [19:12] shonudo (user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:12] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-149.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:13] the only bit of emacs i like is 'M-x zone' [19:14] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-7.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:14] ulon (~ulon@S0106001195758cbf.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] hello all [19:15] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:16] hi ulon :) [19:18] hows it going?? [19:19] all good here, breakfast and coffee :3 yourself? [19:21] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:21] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:22] coffee here too :D [19:25] havent been on freenode in years [19:25] thought i would drop in [19:26] heh yea i'm here for the novelty too.. 'oh neat i have an irc client installed' [19:28] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [19:30] lol [19:31] what are you working on? [19:32] which client? the built in seamonkey one [19:32] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] How'd you know? [19:34] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Spiko (~Spiko@89-212-140-222.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:35] D1ver: are you running slack? [19:36] nyRednek: yessir. Slackware 13.1 -stable [19:36] D1ver: then you also have xchat and irssi [19:36] heh yea i tried out irssi, it was pretty cool [19:37] I use SM for my browser and mail as well though [19:37] Action: nyRednek uses pine for email [19:37] Action: nyRednek uses centerim as an instant messenger [19:37] Action: dustybin uses irssi for irc [19:38] Action: dustybin uses mutt for mail [19:38] Action: dustybin uses bitlbee for msn [19:38] any benefit to irssi? [19:38] Action: mancha uses /ignore for times like these [19:38] :( [19:38] Action: adaptr would run emacs if he wanted to be leet and show off. it does all of those things [19:39] whats leet? [19:39] i thought vim was leet? [19:39] :D (/ignore) [19:39] I have trouble with text based email clients.. [19:43] whys this? [19:48] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:50] mancha: seems that's needed a fair bit lately. [19:51] ulon (~ulon@S0106001195758cbf.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:51] probably spikes on weekends too [19:52] yeah [19:52] deathmoniac (~desumon@200-103-147-174.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:54] snL20 (~irssi@138.199.64.171) joined ##slackware. [19:55] D1ver, me too. mainly they suck [19:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [19:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:59] snL20 (~irssi@138.199.64.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:01] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:01] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:54] goj|afk (~goj@p5488E732.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] killmsft, in what folder [21:55] newslacker (~root@99-195-153-133.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] in /etc/rc.d [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F35D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|afk -> goj [21:58] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6B152.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:59] killmsft, do I just add "rmmod b43 (newline) modprobe b43 pio=1 qos=0" to the end of the file? [21:59] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:02] if you want [22:03] put it near the top /sbin/modules b43 pio=1 qos=0 [22:03] modprobe [22:04] where you see the other /sbin/modprobe [22:08] yoyoned (todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:10] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:12] killmsft, should I make the directory /sbin/modules, it doesn't exist [22:12] go [22:13] no , /sbin/modules was a type [22:13] typooo [22:14] msft has messed up my ability to type correctly [22:14] ./sbin/modprobe is the command [22:14] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] greetings and salutations [22:14] there should actually be a modules config file that you can put options in - trying to find it now [22:15] create a new file in /etc/modprobe.d/ [22:16] create a file in /etc/modprobe.d ( like /etc/modprobe.d/b43.conf) and add the line "options b43 pio=1 qos=0" [22:17] kslen^^ (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:19] "man modprobe.conf" is your friend [22:19] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] melkor (~melkor@208-58-25-176.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] anybody try the usb installer on an ext3 external hdd? [22:22] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:23] crocket (1000@147.47.227.197) joined ##slackware. [22:24] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [22:30] artaud_ (~artaud@187.59.242.42) joined ##slackware. [22:30] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:32] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:33] melkor: I did once a good while back. worked well, though I can not recall the process at all [22:33] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:33] andarius: do you remember if you stareted with the usb installer or an iso? [22:34] USB [22:35] the usb installer is only like 24 megs [22:35] if I recall I used a thumb drive and a USB HD. if you get creative or use aliens scripts you can put it all (the installer and the install files) on one USB device [22:36] daidoji (~daidoji@c-24-6-0-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] yo peeps [22:36] how's everyone doing tonight? [22:36] slightly left but forward, you ? [22:37] null-pointer (~martinus@180.211.95.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:37] about the same [22:37] got a question though that i've never run into before [22:38] a certain slackbuild uses rpm2cpio [22:38] I was modifying that slackbuild for my own personal use [22:38] and downloaded the .tar.bz2 source package for said build [22:38] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-7.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:39] and was trying to modify the script so I thought bzcat archive would do the same thing as rpm2cpio [22:39] but apparently it does not in its vanilla state [22:39] most packages that are rpm rebuilds are of already compiled apps. most tgz files are source code [22:39] and I was wondering if anyone could give me some quick pointers as to how to make this happen [22:39] well right [22:39] this is a compiled app [22:39] and i already re-downloaded the rpm and installed it [22:40] but this is a curiosity question [22:40] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:40] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-69.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:41] I think you would want something more like "tar xvf " but with the output dir specified [22:41] dont thing bzcat will untar it [22:41] well the orginal line is like this [22:42] #rpm2cpio < $CWD/$PRGNAM-${VERSION}-${REVNO}.${ARCH}.rpm | cpio -imdv [22:42] so i was trying to duplicate what this did [22:43] and it kinda works [22:43] kinda ? [22:43] just doesn't preserve the directory structure [22:44] don't use "rpm2cpio < {file}" use "rpm2cpio {file} without the stdin redirect [22:44] what command did you use ? [22:44] i thought this would be equivalent [22:44] bzcat xvvfj $CWD/$PRGNAM-${VERSION}-${REVNO}.${ARCH}.tar.bz2 | cpio -imdv [22:45] alisonken1home, o really? [22:45] why's that? [22:45] o wait nevermind [22:45] that makes sense [22:45] daidoji: "man rpm2cpio" is your friend [22:45] you would want something more like "tar xvf -C $path $file" [22:45] already looked at it thanks [22:45] what you probably want is "cpio < ${rpm2cpio } > [22:46] note that is likely wrong, but should give you the idea [22:46] what you probably want is "cpio < ${rpm2cpio } > {cpiofile}" or something like that [22:46] alisonken1home: he is/was working with a tarball, not rpm [22:46] the rpm line was the original needing to be changed [22:46] alisonken1home, yeah I wanted to change it so it didn't use the rpm [22:46] andarius: then why the rpm2cpio part? [22:46] for academic purposes [22:46] that was in the original slackbuild [22:46] read the second line :P [22:46] ah [22:46] I tried to build qt3 slackware package in slackware64 13.1, but failed with these error messages -> http://pastebin.com/2L0T9Ked [22:46] daidoji: what you want is something like my tar line [22:47] andarius, yeah i think you're right [22:47] as it will extract the tarball to the path you need and preserve the dir structure [22:47] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:47] ok - then try "cpio -imdv < ${bzcat xfj}" [22:48] tar will do it more direct :P [22:48] wait - the pipe is a file list - nm [22:48] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] andarius, hmmm but isn't the point of cpio to jam stuff in a package thats already been created? [22:49] can tar do that? [22:49] you are unjamming it in that line [22:49] frankly I had never even run into cpio until today [22:49] the whole point there is to extract the rpm to a format you can use in slackware [22:50] ahhhh [22:50] so the original line was rpm > cpio > /tmp/$PKG directory basically? [22:50] in a lose translation sure [22:51] but your way i'll do tz2 > /tmp/$PKG [22:51] okay that makes sense [22:51] pretty much [22:51] cpio and tar are similar, but do it in a different way (different formats) [22:52] right [22:52] but i wonder why rpm > cpio > directory [22:52] why not just rpm > directory? [22:52] rpm does some fun stuff with the dir and compression. since you are working with a normal tarball tar with the decompression switch squares it up. The "-C" tells it where to dump the dir [22:52] Leo1111 (~matrix@static-200-105-189-166.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@static-200-105-*.acelerate.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:52] Leo1111 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: matrix, you can keep your attempted insults (U fagest dont help ME!) - they suck anyway. [22:52] because rpm is odd. it has extract type things but it plays with the files when you use it directly [22:53] for slackware we want the files un-played with [22:53] ahhh okay that makes sense [22:53] obviously [22:53] well thanks for your help [22:53] yup, no fondeling of the files is good :) [22:53] yw [22:53] melkor (melkor@208-58-25-176.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware. [22:53] you've clued me up immensely [22:54] so have you ever used cpio? [22:54] is it a GNU especial thing? [22:54] or do people use it in real life? [22:54] not enough to know how to use it without the man page [22:54] cause usually its .bz2 or .gz [22:54] ahhhh [22:54] cpio is used for initrd's and ancient unix file archives [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:54] rpm is actually a modified cpio [22:55] ahhh [22:55] does it have advantages? [22:55] the only page I can find on it is this one from 2002 [22:55] http://cybertiggyr.com/cpio-howto/ [22:55] no idea here [22:55] not over tar/bzip archives for our purposes [22:56] ahhh [22:56] okay [22:56] its not often that I run into a tool these days I've never heard of [22:56] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:56] but thats the magic of the world i guess [22:56] the main reason for cpio on linux nowadays other than initrd is for mainframe unix systems that don't have tar/bz similar to linux [22:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cpio [22:57] ahhh [22:58] plus cpio (POSIX standard) has a max 8G filesize limit [22:58] got ya [22:59] I got libpng-related errors while I was building qt3 slackbuild. [22:59] tino27 (~tino27@static-63-131-73-63.ma.onecommunications.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] http://rightsock.com/~kjw/Ramblings/tar_v_cpio.html <--- tar v. cpio [23:00] Please look at http://pastebin.com/2L0T9Ked [23:00] hmmm [23:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-154-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] BSD-Elite (angevin@cpe-68-174-49-222.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:07] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cpe-68*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:07] BSD-Elite kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Annoying yes. Stupid for sure. Tragic ending imminent [23:10] blowfish^ (puffster@unix.psybnc.org) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that [23:10] OpenBSD elitter.net 4.7 GENERIC#558 i386 [23:10] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] w00t ! [23:11] w00t!!!! [23:11] huh? [23:11] what a life [23:11] trolling a linux chatroom on a friday night [23:11] newslacker (root@99-195-153-133.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [23:11] yeah - reduced to trolling. On a friday night no less. [23:11] you know he's getting laid tonight! [23:11] At least my excuse is babysitting :) [23:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unix.psybnc.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:11] blowfish^ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Ooh, it's PuffBag again. You should shove a blowfish up your ass and inflate it. [23:12] lol [23:12] lol [23:12] slackware64's qt3 package can't be built against libpng [23:12] It needs a patch [23:12] That's top 10 for a classic ban quote. :) [23:12] well, qt3 isn't maintained at all any longer, eventually it will quit working :> [23:12] crocket: So patch it. There's a reason that stuff is in extra - it was never rebuilt for 13.1 [23:13] No sense in me hiding - everyone knew where that ban message originated :) [23:13] rworkman : Where do I submit a patch? [23:13] You don't. You're the one wanting to build it, so you patch it. [23:13] Druid-UNIX (~puffster@core.elitter.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] linux is insecure trash and for dummies [23:13] Have people decided to discard qt3? [23:13] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@core.elitter.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:13] Druid-UNIX kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You again? [23:13] It's already built, and part of /extra [23:15] slackware64 qt-mt wasn't built against some packages neccesary for anti-aliasing. [23:15] qt-mt is a part of qt3. [23:15] Rebuilding is known to resolve the anti-aliasing issue. [23:15] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] Glaswegian (puffster@ninja.hacked.jp) joined ##slackware. [23:15] http://gothschlampen.com/~tk/bsd-vs-linux-s.jpg [23:16] Linux is for dumb bitches [23:16] slackware qt-mt was built against them on the other hand. [23:16] lol [23:16] OpenBSD elitter.net 4.7 GENERIC#558 i386 [23:16] w00t ! [23:16] http://gothschlampen.com/~tk/bsd-vs-linux-s.jpg [23:16] That's linus torvalds [23:16] I wonder if this can be a human being ? [23:17] crocket yeah the fat short balding loser [23:17] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:17] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@ninja.hacked.jp' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:17] Glaswegian kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: If your IQ reaches 100, sell, Puffboy. [23:17] Another good one, rworkman. [23:17] slackboy was a little slow there - unless it's a new nick that had to be added to thte list [23:18] This guy isn't smart enough to have a botnet, so we'll eventually get all of his hosts :) [23:18] Action: daidoji pats rworkman on the back [23:18] That was my fault - paste errors in the bot. [23:18] heh [23:18] ah [23:18] http://rightsock.com/~kjw/Ramblings/tar_v_cpio.html [23:18] There's no telling what's banned, because I did it *three* times :) [23:19] iteresting take on cpio v. tar - and section 5 has an interesting take on using cpio instead of rsync to parallelize cross-network copies [23:19] rworkman: well, they say 3rd times a charm :) [23:19] crocket: well, feel free to send the patch(es) to Pat, but don't have high hopes. I think the better option is to collaborate with the kde3 fork people (I forget the name) and perhaps work up builds for that. [23:19] alisonken1home: one can hope :) [23:20] rworkman : That's a good idea [23:20] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] rworkman, Isn't qt3 a dead project? [23:20] rworkman: think it was trinity last time I heard [23:20] dying - not dead [23:20] EgonSpengler (puffster@freeshells.elitter.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] there's still holdouts against qt4 [23:20] http://gothschlampen.com/~tk/bsd-vs-linux-s.jpg [23:20] Again. [23:20] linux is for bitches [23:20] and dumb ones at that [23:21] lol [23:21] Broken record? [23:21] well since you keep popping up, you must be a bitch [23:21] yeah, at least get better material [23:21] lack of dependency checking is mentally retarded not a feature [23:22] 5 4 3 2 1........ [23:22] all the three BSDs have automagic depedency resolution [23:22] speaking of dependency checking, I guess they forgot yours? [23:22] eh ? [23:22] pkg_add -ii [23:22] pkg_add -i [23:22] rather [23:22] rworkman: your puff boy is back... [23:22] the -i specifies automagic depenency checking in OpenBSD [23:23] slackware is insecure mentally retarded trash with a rip off of the BSD init flat tree bootup [23:23] well, since there are dependency checking package managers for linux, you must have the wrong channel then [23:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b+b *!*@core.elitter.net *!*@*elitter.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:23] EgonSpengler kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Sigh... AssPuff, go away already. [23:23] and bsd-init systems are s-l-o-w [23:24] rworkman: possible check for "puffster@*" something? [23:24] I wonder if I should mail these shell providers [23:25] might be a thought [23:25] lol [23:25] is that guy still alive ? [23:25] unfortunately [23:25] I used to have this guy's real name. Mabye I can find it and a cheap plane ticket - that would be more effective logn-term. [23:25] alisonken1home Good suggestion but probably *!puffster@* as a ban mask. [23:25] makes me wonder if the hospital mixed up the afterbirth and couldn't tell the difference [23:26] Good candidate for a postpartem abortion. [23:27] lol [23:27] he would be a good candidate for old-fashioned mercy - like they used to do for horses with broken legs [23:28] too bad the darwin awards aren't proactive [23:28] Toe-may-toe, Toe-mah-toe [23:28] newslacker (~root@99-195-153-133.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] maybe it's sarah palin's son [23:29] I"m thinking more Rosanne Barr myself [23:33] masterBIGwilly (~masterBIG@CPE-70-92-9-180.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:34] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:37] rworkman, alisonken1home.. you hear of the CIA, the airliner and shit with the tortures ? [23:38] I hear lots of things - just a matter of validating what I hear [23:38] the supreme court shot it down 6-5 [23:38] Arirang_ (47ece53e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.229.62) joined ##slackware. [23:38] citing "state secrets" [23:38] SCOTUS *can't* vote 6-5 [23:38] cia used civilian airliners, the airliner profiteered with tax payer dollars.. cia people spent tons of money on lavish shit in hotels, wines, champagns and shit [23:39] 9th circuit [23:39] how many justices are there in the supreme court [23:39] SCOTUS has nine members :) [23:39] too lazy to check [23:39] ok [23:39] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [23:40] so that means the CIA is like most other gov branches [23:40] wasteful [23:40] That goes witout saying [23:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:40] tarrito (1000@190.209.181.211) joined ##slackware. [23:40] http://abstrusegoose.com/183 [23:40] Politics Summary: ^ [23:41] good night [23:41] One can ope. [23:41] hope too. [23:41] Action: andarius can concur with that :) [23:44] Action: NaCl says somethinng [23:45] rworkman: works for me :) [23:45] I have come to here with a problem in the installation process of Slackware 13.1 [23:45] speak [23:45] I have 2 hard disks, one sata 80gb and a Ide 80gb [23:46] rworkman, I assume you are THE Robbie Workman correct? [23:46] daidoji: correct [23:46] creator of this wonderful slackbuild [23:46] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/opera/ [23:46] nooper, he's actually a decoy. ;) [23:46] errordeveloper, wtf [23:46] wth [23:46] I don't even hit tab [23:46] hah [23:46] In slack 13 both works without problems, but when I try to install 13.1 the IDE is recognized as a 33.8 gb hard disk [23:46] http://pastebin.com/THGMx2TX [23:47] daidoji: I'm the unfriendly version, yes. [23:47] :) [23:47] lol, fire|bird [23:47] hey MLanden :) [23:47] rworkman: where's the friendly one? [23:47] hey MLanden [23:47] :P [23:47] so anyways I modified that script to install the latest one with the .tar.bz2 archive instead of the rpm [23:47] NaCl: I ran that sumbitch off. [23:47] MLanden, How's it going? [23:47] does this build look kosher? [23:47] Lufbery_jaa (~Drew@pool-72-70-161-92.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] daidoji: would you like to take over maintenance of that script? :) [23:47] tarrito: how are you checking the ide drive size? [23:47] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.48.212.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:47] ummm maybe [23:48] heya fire|bird..Goin' good for the night thanks...yourself? [23:48] I do like keeping my opera up to date [23:48] heya shonudo [23:48] Trying to run cfdisk or fdisk on it [23:48] rworkman, but I'm not really sure about style in slackbuilds [23:48] or best practices [23:48] daidoji: SBo has a template [23:48] daidoji: I think the new version has a way to install with that installer script, and there's a --prefix and --destdir option built into it [23:48] MLanden, Well, aside from a couple fails there, I'm doing good, thanks. :) [23:48] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:49] tarrito: what's the command you used? "cfdisk /dev/xxxx" ? [23:49] fire|bird: good to hear [23:49] rworkman, ahhhh, where do you find out about such things? [23:49] to check the ide drive [23:49] Lufbery_jaa (~Drew@pool-72-70-161-92.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:49] I'm having trouble on the opera site finding linux install info [23:49] it seems like they just want you to fire from the hip with that installer script [23:49] Yes. [23:50] cfdisk /dev/sdb (in spite is a ide, now is mentioned as sdxx) [23:50] daidoji: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/09/08/mail-panel but even better: http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2010-September/006439.html [23:50] The installer updates if a different version is installed. [23:50] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] In other machine with 20gb I have not problems [23:50] daidoji: they've always been that way -- read my (heavily sanitized) comments in the 13.0 opera build script :) [23:50] with ides [23:50] tarrito: yes - libata changed between slack 13.0 and 13.1 so all drives are sd now [23:51] rworkman, its a shame [23:51] opera is such a nice browser [23:51] well except they've been slacking on the *nix builds recently [23:51] I really want someone else to take over maintenance of that script -- I don't use opera; in fact, I tried it on my droid phone, and I don't even like it there. [23:51] with the java and flash issues [23:51] hmmm, well uhhh sure [23:52] where do I start I guess? [23:52] Well, if you're not comfortable with scripting, probably it shouldn't be you yet. That said, give it a shot, send me the result, and we'll go from there. [23:52] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:53] I'm willing to help you, especially early on - no matter how much I have to help, it will still be less work (long term) than keeping on maintaining it myself :) [23:54] hold out man in about 5 min he will pay you to take it over. [23:54] haha, I'm not uncomfortable with scripting [23:54] alisonken1home: In the same machine I have installed in the sata disk Slackware 13 and the ide disk is well recognized, but if I make a 80gb partition there, the setup of 13.1 still showing it as a 33.8 gb and e2fsk goes crazy if i run over the ide disk [23:54] haha [23:54] alisonken1home: (please excuse me my tarzan-like english, I am not very good in english) [23:54] http://pastebin.com/THGMx2TX [23:54] tarrito: sounds like there's a jumper or setting on the drive that's causing that [23:54] thats what I got working from your script [23:55] tarrito: or a bios setting on how to access ide drives [23:56] daidoji: check what vvoody mentioned on that second link I pasted and see what it does. That looks like a cleaner solution [23:56] okay [23:56] alisonken1home: Do you have read about similar troubles? I have been surfing looking for similar cases and I can find nothing about. [23:57] not as extreme as yours, but I've seen drives show some funny sizes if the jumpers are set wrong or the bios is incorrect [23:58] alisonken1home: I will Try in the bios, but as I said, Slack 13 have not problems with that disks. May be the libata changes could be the cause, right? [23:58] anybody else see "*g0v* I found 3 matches ..." just pop up? [23:59] g0v is a badly configured bot which sends unwanted messags [23:59] tarrito: possibly - may require some changes other than fstab with that [23:59] mancha: thanks [00:00] --- Sat Sep 11 2010