[00:04] roccity_ (~roccity_@ip-118-90-29-242.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:05] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-196-163.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:06] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [00:06] brokedown What connections are you using? HDMI, RCA,...? [00:07] ajna: PS3 linux on 640x480 = ugly [00:07] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-233-179.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:08] And often, it requires way too much fiddling to use [00:08] ajna: for the ps3 it is hdmi to dvi [00:08] Didn't they remove alt OS support? How are you running Linux on a PS3? [00:08] Action: NaCl hasn't update the firmware yet [00:08] *updated [00:09] me neither [00:09] brokedown Thanks for all the information. I'm a little screwed if I buy the wrong monitor. Hard to return something on sale and I don't have the money to blow. [00:09] ajna: there are adapters for some kinds of inputs to others [00:10] ajna: I got an hdmi to dvi cable for that [00:10] since all the hdmi inputs were used [00:10] This monitor claims to have it all: VGA, DVI, HDMI, and RCA. Looking at the Newegg images, I'm not seeing the RCA. [00:10] ajna: link [00:10] probably no rca on a monitor these days [00:10] If this thing is as advertised, I shouldn't need any conversion cables. [00:10] Oh, sure NaCl [00:11] type RGB [00:11] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:11] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254049 [00:11] NaCl, that's the monitor I'm looking at. [00:11] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] ajna: no rca there [00:12] these days biggest difference between hdtv and monitor are built in speakers and tv tuner [00:12] funny how that works [00:12] ajna: Analog RGB != Compositite video [00:12] and about $200 many times [00:12] veritos (~koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Thanks NaCl. [00:14] np [00:14] The VGA, DVI, and HDMI ports are easy to spot, so this should work. [00:16] Nick change: Guest27396 -> init[1] [00:16] init[1] (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [00:16] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [00:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:18] suvir (~suvir@ppp-124-122-142-154.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [00:18] cell_x (~cell_x@ip98-162-234-8.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. 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[01:21] pattwo (~pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: quitting [01:27] Khratos (~jespinal@190.167.130.197) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:28] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [01:34] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:37] Nick change: mach_kernel|TV -> dormant_kernel [01:38] Wondering (to myself) if I can get away with using an adapter cable (VGA - HDMI) and my old 19" CRT monitor with a PS3. Saves $100. [01:39] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:40] Khratos (~jespinal@190.167.130.197) joined ##slackware. [01:41] nah. Picture would have to suck. [01:41] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:42] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:42] Khratos (~jespinal@190.167.130.197) left irc: Client Quit [01:43] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] also, you may not be able to play blurays due to the lack of HDCP support [01:49] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:57] SiegeX, thanks for the information. [01:57] Sort of joking when I said that anyway. [01:58] Really trying to figure out why this thing claims analog RGB support. I'm not seeing the connectors, so I'm trying to read up and find out if I'm misunderstanding something. [01:59] I haven't purchased a new monitor since the 90s. lol [02:00] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:01] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [02:02] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:03] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:28] liberion (~liberion@24.100.101.185) joined ##slackware. [02:28] liberion (~liberion@24.100.101.185) left irc: Changing host [02:28] liberion (~liberion@unaffiliated/tiberion) joined ##slackware. [02:28] hey guys anyone here? [02:29] what is the tar command for extracting xz files [02:29] liberion (~liberion@unaffiliated/tiberion) left irc: Client Quit [02:30] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.116.105) joined ##slackware. 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[02:47] tar -Jxf *.txz [02:47] redtricycle, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [02:48] ah, i'll turn DHCP off for eth0, thx s0ttle [02:48] no problem redtricycle [02:50] mwnn (~user@59.92.205.23) joined ##slackware. [02:51] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-155.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Azeotrope (1000@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Azeotrope (1000@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [02:55] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] I found the best too for removing the unused locales is bleachbit. [03:08] solution to my question earlier [03:08] congrats wario :) [03:09] nice, that might help with trimming down backups [03:10] Hi, I have a wireless access point made with hostapd 0.7.1 on kernel 2.6.33.2. I can see this ap but I can't connect to it. I get these in the hostapd logfile http://pastebin.org/146618 Also, if i run hostapd in debug mode i get: http://pastebin.org/146620 (it deautheticates me suddenly). Please help [03:10] Nicce (1000@ip-191-192-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] How can I configure x for a regular user ? [03:14] Okay, I'll bite. What exactly are you trying to do Nicce? [03:16] I just trying to make xwindow avalible for a user [03:16] Nicce, what's the name of the user? [03:17] the name... whats that have to do with anything ? but its Nicke [03:19] how old is (s)he? [03:19] Still not sure what the problem is. Maybe I'm overestimating it. Are you new to Linux? [03:20] ok ajna, I'll let you help him :) [03:20] No, you take it. [03:20] Doesn't matter to me. [03:20] :) [03:20] yeah Im new to linux, I cant make a regular user account to have permission to startx.... [03:21] That's odd (to me). I never had that problem. You've created the user? [03:21] yeah I created it as root with the adduser command [03:22] Then, you logged out as root, in as the new user, typed startx and... What happened? [03:23] its trying to start it then it just returns to the shell [03:23] (Trying to remember if a Nintendo GameCube requires that the television be set to a specific channel.) [03:23] My little monitor upgrade is turning into quite a hassle. [03:24] it does... [03:24] displays a message... "startup problems are usually permissions issues, but you're not logging in as root (that's good)..." Something like that Nicce? [03:25] yeah its a permission issue I think [03:26] neonflux (~neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:26] Is it OK to disable gtk.immodule updates on startup? [03:26] so the issue is were should I put the permissions to be able to startx as a user [03:26] trying to speed up boot times a little [03:26] I assume you've tried the standard "reboot" fix and that it fails to start x consistently, not sporadically, yes? (Not that I have a clue what the problem is). [03:26] Nicce, do you already have a display open on :0 (F7) ? [03:26] Nicce, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log, copy it's contents, and pasted them on http://www.pastie.org/ and give us the link [03:26] Ah,... Didn't think of that. [03:28] Nicce is new, so I didn't think he/she would be switching between multiple terminals just yet. If root is logged in and running x in one terminal, you can't start x as another user in another terminal. [03:30] startx -- :1 # is the syntax, if display 0 is taken [03:30] Im booting in textbased login then loging in as user and try to startx I cant [03:31] yeah, but new user. wouldn't be doing that, right? has to be using the basic command in an attempt to start 2 x sessions if that's what Niccee is doing. [03:31] what is the error after "startx" [03:31] Then, I've got no clue. Did you modify xorg.conf by hand at all? Can you startx as root? [03:32] everything works fine [03:32] ok so it's fixed. next... [03:32] lol [03:34] _aheo (~void@213.206.44.8) joined ##slackware. [03:34] I don't know. if x starts as root, it's not a missing component of x lost in a custom install, right *whoever is interested*? [03:35] stop inventing problems, he already said everything works. [03:35] it seams like the user just dont have permission to startx [03:35] for some reason [03:35] and everthing works fine with root [03:36] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [03:37] I wouldn't put too much stock in the error message I described earlier - the one that mentioned permissions and not logging in as root. It pops up occasionally on my system too, but entered startx again usually takes care of things for me. Still, I'm out of ideas. Maybe someone else can come up with something. [03:38] Nicce, do this as root: gpasswd -a username video [03:38] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:38] logout and try again as normal user [03:38] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:39] maybe he did not add additional groups during the adduser process [03:39] http://www.pastie.org/913818 [03:39] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:41] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:41] Nicce, do as root: gpasswd -a Nicke video [03:41] Not a problem I've had. For additional groups, I usually add netdev. Nothing more. [03:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [03:41] hmm [03:42] <_aheo> cat /etc/group [03:42] I have already enable video for nicke in /etc/group [03:42] dosent help [03:43] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-155.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:45] doesn't it inherit the video group on starting X [03:46] mkdir: kan inte skapa katalog "/home/nicke/.xwmconfig": Filen existerar [03:46] chmod: dndrar rdttigheter pe "/home/nicke/.xwmconfig": Operationen inte tilleten [03:46] sh: /home/nicke/.xwmconfig/tmpscript.sh: Inte en katalog [03:47] thats whats happen if I try to run xwmconfig as user.... if that clears something up [03:47] can you translate that stuff? [03:47] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:47] operation not permitted [03:48] pritty much [03:48] <_aheo> Nicce, try to create new user [03:48] <_aheo> and test under new account [03:48] as root, do this "chown -R nicke:nicke /home/nicke" [03:49] ok just using the adduser command ? [03:49] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [03:49] The sun will be rising soon. I should get some sleep. Goodnight everybody. [03:50] night ajna [03:50] Thanks again for the help. [03:50] ajna (~ajna@68.235.239.145) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:50] hmm says like bad groupe nicke [03:50] as root, do this "chown -R nicke:users /home/nicke" [03:50] <_aheo> Nicce: ok just using the adduser command ? [03:50] <_aheo> - yes [03:51] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:51] now it worked [03:51] now lets see whats happening [03:54] j0z (~SPH@189.58.25.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:54] j0z (~SPH@189.58.25.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [03:54] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:56] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:57] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: "When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable" [03:58] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:59] its seams to be working but I need to do a reboot now too (bee back) [03:59] Nicce (1000@ip-191-192-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:01] I have a wireless access point made with hostapd 0.7.1 on kernel 2.6.33.2. I can see this AP but I can't connect to it whatever I'd do. I get these in the hostapd logfile http://pastebin.org/146618 Also, if i run hostapd in debug mode i get: http://pastebin.org/146620 (it deautheticates me suddenly). Any ideea? [04:01] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] o_O [04:03] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.116.105) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:09] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.156.79) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:09] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:11] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Nicce (1000@ip-222-194-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:13] I can now use x as a regular user [04:13] <_aheo> ;-) [04:13] thanks alot for the help [04:13] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:14] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:17] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-184-71.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:29] how can I see if somebody has/is portscanning my system [04:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-184-71.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:34] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] latemus (~m@67.177.9.234) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:45] snort [04:49] Ok, I will check that out then [04:54] Nicce (1000@ip-222-194-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:55] snortarOOnie [04:58] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) joined ##slackware. [04:58] stuart_ (stuart@124.13.56.166) left ##slackware. [05:01] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:03] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:04] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) joined ##slackware. [05:05] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.120.163) joined ##slackware. [05:07] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D963.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:08] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:08] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:09] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:09] was Nicce's problem solved? [05:11] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) joined ##slackware. [05:11] hm, why does my sound go away after the 2nd reboot of slackware? [05:12] there doesn't seem to be any sound errors, but there just won't be any sound [05:12] hard or softreset? [05:12] right out of the box sound works, then i do routine stuff like installing nvidia, changing init4 default at boot, installing flash, nothing much really? [05:12] mario, hard [05:13] both, actually [05:13] i really like slackware, but the sound thing is driving me nuts [05:14] cat /proc/asound/cards [05:15] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-130-128.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:15] HDA Intel [05:15] just one? [05:15] HDA Intel at 0xfebdc000 irq 16 [05:16] thats it [05:16] is that one or two ? [05:18] mario, nvm, am currently working on a long workaround i found on google. kinda hard to find sound problems on slackware, weird [05:18] btw, since i'm on ubuntu now, and on GRUB, can i still install slackware and use lilo [05:19] stuart_: install lilo to slackware's root [05:19] and chainload it [05:19] john_dee, chainload? [05:20] oh. or load slackware's kernel from grub directly :) [05:21] stuart_: in grub's prompt do "root (partition_where_slack_is) ; chainloader +1 ; boot" you'll see lilo [05:21] john_dee, k cool [05:22] is there anyway i can divide an in use partition without deleting the files on it? [05:23] i plan to use the same ubuntu HD but there's just too many movies i don't wanna delete [05:25] stuart_, may be this will help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GParted [05:25] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [05:25] stuart_: yes. resizea a partition that has some free space with, say, gparted-livecd. create a new one for slackware [05:26] stuart_: if it will be a data partition, than you can resize it from ubuntu [05:26] then* [05:29] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:31] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:34] how do i see the source of /mounted/usb ? [05:34] like i wanna know if the mounted dir is /dev/sd??? [05:35] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[05:55] morning alreadygone, seems like not much is happening here [05:55] yes, not much [05:55] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:56] Action: Camarade_Tux starts dancing \o/ [05:56] :D-/-< [05:57] :D-|-< [05:57] mp3bot, it's you? :P [05:57] :D-\-< [05:57] ooh [05:57] shake it akira42 [05:57] you spoiled my combo :( [05:57] bad timing ='( [05:58] yeah .. [05:58] hm .. [05:58] was there a way to insert 'new line' without triggering the client to send the message? [05:58] you know, if you move your face up and down up and down fast enough you'll see akira42's "combo" in action [05:58] hehe [06:01] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-73-155.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:48] sahk0: thanks [07:49] hi fredoslack =) [07:49] oh yeah, almost forgot, the build scripts use some weird cryptic custom functions mostt of them starting with F. and makepkg builds in a chroot by default [07:50] the only positive i can think of is that they use git all over the place [07:51] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:51] hmmm, that is nice indeed [07:52] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:00] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.156.79) joined ##slackware. [08:03] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:06] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [08:06] v4nelle (~van@178-14-130.dynamic.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:09] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:56] Camarade_Tux: yes it does [08:56] Lord_Khelben: ok, thanks =) [08:57] bleh, my /etc/rc.d is actually a mess [08:57] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:57] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [08:58] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:58] untar the packages somehwere and diff the original files with your versions [08:59] well, I have leftovers .orig files there so it should be quite easy to clean but I wanted to be sure [09:05] v4nelle (~van@178-14-130.dynamic.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:06] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] _aheo (~void@213.206.44.8) joined ##slackware. [09:08] _aheo (void@213.206.44.8) left ##slackware. [09:10] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [09:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:15] frimer (frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. 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[10:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-73-155.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:19] maddslacker (~corey@97-122-174-134.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] any wicd gurus on? [10:21] [euK] (~euK]@host-90-235-132-78.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] [euK] (~euK]@host-90-235-132-78.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:22] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-73-155.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-73-155.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:27] maddslacker: in #wicd perhaps? But you can always just ask [10:27] maddslacker (~corey@97-122-174-134.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:32] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.250) joined ##slackware. [10:33] visco (~visco@host-90-235-132-78.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:35] visco (~visco@host-90-235-132-78.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:39] ezr (~jpb@66.189.48.225) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:42] everyone is sleeping [10:42] tutututut [10:44] what does tutututututut mean? [10:46] i wanted to backport 2.6.33.x to 2.6.32.x [10:47] neonflux (~neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [10:50] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:52] ok? [10:53] I have a wireless access point made with hostapd 0.7.1 on kernel 2.6.33.2. I can see this AP but I can't connect to it whatever I'd do. I get these in the hostapd logfile http://pastebin.org/146618 Also, if i run hostapd in debug mode i get: http://pastebin.org/146620 (it deautheticates me suddenly). Any ideea what's happening? [10:55] it didn't work yet ? [10:55] straterra: train going past [10:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:56] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] Immundus (~obi@g225050168.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:58] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:58] Lord_Khelben: nope [10:59] have you tried if your setup works without wpa2 ? [10:59] temporarily ofcourse to make sure that there is no problem [11:00] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:05] alisonken1home: can I ask you something about hostapd? [11:07] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:10] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] sure, I have a few minutes before church [11:10] Azeotrope, [11:11] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [11:13] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [11:15] I have a wireless access point made with hostapd 0.7.1 on kernel 2.6.33.2. I can see this AP but I can't connect to it whatever I'd do. I get these in the hostapd logfile http://pastebin.org/146618 Also, if i run hostapd in debug mode i get: http://pastebin.org/146620 (it deautheticates me suddenly). Any ideea what's happening? [11:15] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:15] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [11:15] alisonken1home: i don't have any idea what's happening or from where to start cleaning it [11:16] hexdump_ (~hexdump@cpe-65-185-13-167.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:17] are you using encryption? [11:18] no [11:18] driver is hostap (i tried nl80211 and does the same) [11:19] according to line 52 area of the second link it looks like you have encryption enabled [11:20] that was before i disabled it then. but now with encryption off, still does the same [11:20] did you look up disaccoc reason_code=3 and see what that code means on line 109? [11:20] the laptop shows that it's connecting and then disconnects [11:20] and line 120 shows inactivity disassociation [11:21] alekto (~nico@ti0153a380-0117.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [11:21] are you using a valid channel for your area and is the channel free (not another ap using it)? [11:22] another possibility is if you have txpower set too high [11:22] if your ap and station are close together, set power down to 1/2 power (like 5 of 10 power level) [11:22] alisonken1home: i tried some channels... [11:23] alekto (~nico@ti0153a380-0117.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:23] alisonken1home: where do i set the power? i can't see it [11:23] also, a dumb question... how will the station will get an IP? [11:23] in your client it's in the settings page - in hostapd it should be in the config fiile [11:24] once they connect and are stable, you have to either manually set the IP in your client or use dhcp. either way, hostapd has to be set properly, so first thing is getting the client to a stable connection [11:25] this is current http://pastebin.org/147004 [11:25] alisonken1home: ok. so that's not the reason it disconnects me [11:26] once hostapd is up, to set tx power on your server side, you run a script and change power with iwconfig [11:26] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:26] or manually set the power by running iwconfig txpower [11:27] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:27] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Lord_Khelben (~null@188.4.241.150.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes! [11:28] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-552-1-108-227.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-6-69.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:31] time for church [11:31] alisonken1home: ok. and if that's not the problem? [11:31] do a "iwlsit scan" and see what channels are free - and don't forget that channels can have harmonics - that's another issue as well [11:32] ok . good bye [11:32] try setting power to a lower level on both client/server, check for open freq's [11:33] aveng3r (~avenger@189.121.228.162) joined ##slackware. [11:34] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:34] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [11:34] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) joined ##slackware. [11:35] after they're connecting properly, then you need to brush up on ip networking and what IPs and networks/netmasks are [11:39] Drakevr (~drakevr@athedsl-406595.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [11:39] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [11:39] chasmo77 (~chas@69.4.142.4) left irc: Quit: this is not a .sig [11:41] Immundus (~obi@g225050168.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout [11:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.156.79) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:48] shonudo (user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [11:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-133-241.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:57] 20 channels and nobody knows why my hostapd doesn't work.... [11:57] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:59] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:59] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [11:59] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Azeotrope: Is it supported by your hw? [12:02] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] afaik some cheaper wifi gear does not support being an ap. [12:04] ... [12:04] that's what hostapd should do [12:05] put it in master mode [12:05] If the driver doesn't support it, the driver doesn't support it :-) [12:05] No matter what hostapd doe. [12:05] deso, even. [12:05] hahah [12:05] Wow.... [12:05] adamk: it's ok, butterfingers, I'll take it from here :P [12:05] Action: adamk goes and hides in the corner. [12:06] adamk: is it driver level, though? I thought it was hw-level. [12:06] Could be either, I think. [12:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:07] it works in ap mode [12:15] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] _aheo (~void@213.206.44.8) joined ##slackware. [12:16] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-133-241.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:17] _aheo (void@213.206.44.8) left ##slackware. [12:23] Nick change: mach_kernel -> mach_kernel|AFK [12:28] Camarade_Tux: hi [12:28] Camarade_Tux: hey there [12:32] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [12:32] hi [12:32] graveman keeps reporting "operation failed" when trying to burn a data dvd [12:33] how can i found what's causing it? [12:33] usus12jari (1000@114.58.228.149) joined ##slackware. [12:33] echelon: read the logs? [12:33] where is it? [12:33] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.19.122) joined ##slackware. [12:34] /var/log/* [12:34] if it's an X program, and it outputs errors to STDERR, probably in ~/.xsession-errors [12:34] that doesn't really narrow it [12:34] hmm [12:35] echelon: well you asked a broad question and didn't specify which application you're using to burn the DVD. we can't read your mind. [12:35] nope, nothing [12:35] i said "graveman" [12:35] man graveman and see where it outputs its data? [12:36] I don't have a graveman package. [12:36] oh, i got it from sbo [12:37] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:38] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:38] echelon: and does it have man pages (grep man /var/log/graveman*) ? [12:38] wtf is that software even supported? [12:38] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:38] i mean by it's author [12:38] sitwon: I think my question is more important and deserves answering first. :P [12:38] yeah, it has a man page [12:39] echelon: and does the man page specify where output goes? [12:39] eviljames: oh yea... sorry [12:39] sitwon: But, also, it might be like tovid, where the author hasn't had much time to work on it in a while, but still wants to pursue the project. [12:40] You can also compile graveman in debug mode and attach graveman output. [12:40] eviljames: I was just noticing... last release was in 2006 and there's over 100 open bug reports going back to '05 [12:40] it worked the first time though [12:40] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:41] echelon: try running from the command line, something like "graveman 1> graveman.out 2> graveman.err" [12:41] echelon: Might give you more useful output. [12:41] ok [12:42] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:43] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:43] i did it, and both files are empty [12:43] i'll just use dvd+rw-tools [12:44] echelon: hold on a sec. [12:44] echelon: What's the goal here? [12:45] burning some folders onto data dvd [12:45] oh, why not use k3b? [12:45] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:46] don't have kde [12:46] well there's your first mistake! ;) [12:46] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:46] :) [12:48] also, anyone use ipv6? i'm trying to add multiple ip's to one interface, but the routing stops working [12:49] i got it to work before, just by doing ifconfig tun1 add newv6addr.. doesn't work anymore [12:51] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) joined ##slackware. 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[13:47] in a far far a way land... [13:47] what was the evil dragon's name ? there's always a dragon too :P [13:47] Action: NaCl feeds Lord_Khelben to a dragon [13:48] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) joined ##slackware. [13:49] i didn't install lilo on my dualboot machine, and now i just want to have lilo and slackware, how do i install lilo in MBR now [13:49] man lilo [13:49] you need to write a config file for lilo (/etc/lilo.conf) and then simply run lilo [13:51] also, why does firefox freeze when i Fullscreen my youtube playbacks? [13:52] because the adobe flash plugin is crap [13:52] Lord_Khelben: the whole flash thing is Crap [13:52] it does the same on my box too (the 64bit version works for a weird reason) [13:53] crap just phoned me and is quite sad that you compare it to flash, it's really mean to crap ='( [13:53] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:53] _plasmic_ (~sibb@212.183.140.7) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Camarade_Tux: hehehe [13:53] Lord_Khelben, you copied .so file to mozilla/plugin? [13:54] stuart_: yes. i don't there is another way [13:54] Lord_Khelben, hmm.. konqueror lets me fullscreen for some reason [13:55] Camarade_Tux: do you run GNASH? [13:56] NaCl: nah [13:56] NaCl: I run flash (on 64bit) when I need it (the plugin is almost always disabled, when I need it, I enable it and reload the page) [13:57] NaCl: however, I tried gnash a few months back and it was almost ok [13:58] whats a good gui text editor for slack KDE, pure text based [13:58] hmmm? [13:58] Camarade_Tux: gotcha [13:58] graphical but text-based? [13:59] NaCl: I think I should maybe try again [13:59] It was a bit more messy to install than the adobe plugin [14:00] stuart_: kwrite is a good simple one [14:00] wow man the opposition team hjad a cheater on the team, was killing us through everything and their teamates are saying "we're stylin on you".. instead of telling the cheater to get the fuck out [14:00] i swear, 14 year ole white kids. [14:01] slackmagic (1000@173.74.46.248) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:01] Lord_Khelben, k cool [14:01] NaCl: the slackbuild was good however [14:01] john_dee (~id@95-29-188-232.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:01] Camarade_Tux: requires installing way too many deps (IMO) [14:02] john_dee (~id@95-29-184-82.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:02] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [14:04] hmmm, actually there's no slackbuild for gnash on sbo... [14:04] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:05] anyone here tried installing slack on usb pen drive? [14:05] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) joined ##slackware. [14:05] why? any precise question? [14:05] do i need an initrd=/boot/initrd2.6.whatever command in my lilo.conf for a normal slack boot? [14:06] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-184.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] if you use the generic kernel then yes [14:06] i'm having issue trying to install it using a flash drive... [14:06] because i don't have any /boot/initrd-2.6.etcetc file.. what do i do now? [14:06] Camarade_Tux: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/gnash/ [14:07] stuart_: make one [14:07] ah, right [14:07] i've up to the setup menu...but thats it [14:07] had probably used that one [14:07] use mkinitrd [14:07] Lord_Khelben, and what would that .img file contain? [14:07] it is a initramfs image (a cpio archive) [14:08] which contains a init script and some progs [14:08] necessary to mount the root filesystem [14:08] when mounting it directly isn't possible [14:08] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:09] now how do i install modules into my /boot/initrd-tree dir [14:09] mkinird will do it for you [14:09] you just tell it what modules you want [14:09] read the manpage [14:09] mkinitrd that is [14:10] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.24.43) joined ##slackware. [14:10] ass3mbly (~ass3mbly@BC24D1BE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [14:11] if you chat from a slack machine now and don't know what initrd is, then you probably don't need it [14:11] ass3mbly (~ass3mbly@BC24D1BE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) left irc: Client Quit [14:11] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [14:11] anyone having problems with svgalib and framebuffer with -current, such as links -g not working? [14:12] it was working though seems to have stopped recently [14:12] so to make a data dvd using dvd+rw-tools, i have to create an iso image first? [14:12] growisofs can make it on the fly [14:12] phoenix^ (~firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:13] svgalib: ark: Uknown chiptype 0 [14:14] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:15] Lord_Khelben: so how would i burn multiple directories with growisofs? [14:15] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:15] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:15] wario: I would fiddle with it myself, but fglrx is picky about switching between VTs. [14:16] echelon: i think you put them in the command line. check the manpage [14:17] NaCl: thanks. the strange thing is i'm using kms and it usually works right with the correct res. [14:18] Action: NaCl can't use KMS [14:18] NaCl: do you have fglrx installed on your maschine [14:18] I still have the wifi problme [14:18] sirslacker: yes [14:19] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:19] NaCl: did you used the ati unoffical app to build the package? did you extract it, and did a macke package or? [14:19] /dev/fb0 present [14:19] ugh.. how do i move video1, video2, video3, video4.avi with wildcard in one command [14:19] sirslacker: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/running-fglrx-with-current-796669/ [14:20] stuart_: I personally use for loops [14:20] stuart_: mv video?.avi path-4-them-to-go [14:20] if you have more videos then its mv video[1-4].avi [14:20] oh, not video*.avi ? [14:20] no wonder it wouldn't work [14:21] video*avi will work too ofcourse [14:21] NaCl: thank you for that link! i didnt see that! [14:21] np [14:21] mv: cannot stat `Gossip*.avi': No such file or directory [14:21] weird [14:22] n0w0nd3r_ (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) joined ##slackware. [14:22] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:22] Suhana, mv video{1..4}.avi new_location [14:23] stat1c (~stat1c@24.229.194.61.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] or, do you mean rename them ? [14:24] |CtrlAltCa| (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [14:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [14:25] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:27] that white van is still outside [14:28] go offer them some cookies [14:28] hash brownies [14:29] n0w0nd3r__ (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) joined ##slackware. [14:29] thrice`: ? [14:29] adaptr, and some fried eggies please [14:29] umislack (1000@58.64.78.130) joined ##slackware. [14:30] also when i tried to make my ap there was a suspicious MAC address that kept probing it. [14:30] and i kept the AP 5 min online [14:31] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:31] you may be the one in a million paranoiac they're actually after [14:31] Azeotrope: zomg, they're on to you [14:31] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-91-14.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] google their license plate [14:32] n0w0nd3r_ (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:32] screw that go talk to them [14:32] mwnn (~user@59.92.205.23) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:32] make them feel more uncomfortable than you feel [14:32] cut the gas line and throw a cigarette :P [14:32] stalking? [14:32] who are we stalking today? [14:33] stalking/killing [14:33] eh? there's no pidgin on slackbuilds? is it alright to just compile from source [14:33] stuart_: pidgin is already included with slack [14:33] Lord_Khelben, wanna upgrade to newer versions [14:33] and patrick does the patches [14:33] ... [14:33] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ChangeLog.txt [14:33] then dopwnload the new sources and modify the stock build script. [14:33] stuart_: no it's forbidden to compile from source [14:34] http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/19/passport.security/index.html [14:34] surrounder: your sarcasm is too obvious [14:34] you have to be more subtle [14:34] that's when it gets funny [14:34] he was just thinking about other distros [14:35] antiwire, that's the thing, there's no stock builds on slackbuilds [14:35] dude. [14:35] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:35] the sources and the scripts come with Slackware. they are all on the official mirrors. 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[14:37] antiwire: newbs can be stupid like this [14:37] i was once a newb [14:37] i remember [14:38] Azeotrope: go ahead if you must [14:38] so, i have a hostapd 0.7.1 AP on slack, latest kernel. when i trz to connect to it i get these freakin errors? http://pastebin.org/147004 [14:40] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:40] why everytime when I put a question there's silence in the room? am I that deep? do I raise such intriguing problems? [14:40] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Most likely, no one cares :-) [14:41] lawl [14:41] ... lol [14:41] Azeotrope: the question is the same every time, and no one knows the answer [14:41] or doesn't know what is the problem [14:42] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:43] the question is the same because the problem is the same. i have spoken [14:44] quote me and put me in fortune. [14:44] some people are away or busy. those that are here don't know the answer i suppose [14:45] I know I don't. I remember trying to do the same thing once before with a usb wifi device. It didn't support becoming an ap, so I gave it away and bought a new router [14:45] o.o [14:45] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:46] if i was chinese i would make it work with a toothpick and a paperclip. [14:49] you should start becomming chinese then, it would be faster then waiting for an answer from here [14:49] john_dee (~id@95-29-184-82.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:50] hehehe [14:50] is there a channel here for hostapd ? there they would surely know the answer [14:50] Soon I'm going to try setting up my own Atheros WAP. I haven't done it yet, though. [14:51] There is #madwifi, and the last I was in there, no one knew. [14:52] diven (~diven@cpe-72-183-237-2.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:52] Lord_Khelben: mailing list [14:53] no one knew in #wireless #linux-wireless #linux #archlinux #gentoo #debian #fedora #networking #slackware or #astronomy. Yes, i asked in #astronomy [14:53] deathof1 (~nic@c-71-61-141-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [14:53] hahahaa [14:53] deathof1 (~nic@c-71-61-141-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] gentoo,debian,fedora,astronomy [14:54] I have mine working now with madwifi. I'm planning to upgrade the kernel on that machine soon, so madwifi won't be an option. What you're trying to do is fairly new ground, and definitely not trivial. [14:55] Master mode in ath5k support only began around 2.6.32 or so. [14:55] I have hostapd working with ath9k and EAP [14:55] umislack (1000@58.64.78.130) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:55] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:55] I have also had ti all working with ath5k [14:56] antiwire: how? any hacks? [14:57] can you use a card in both master and station mode? [14:58] no you can't [14:58] hacks? [14:58] wt [14:59] station mode? [14:59] as in non-elegant methods of making it work [14:59] It works. [14:59] master mode [14:59] master mode works fine. [15:00] for you.. mine won't [15:00] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:00] sucks [15:01] kinda [15:01] wycked (~wycked@68-190-131-243.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@89.214.195.28) joined ##slackware. [15:01] antiwire: any guide for that? [15:02] nope [15:02] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i am, for the first time, using slackware to connect to this IRC. i feel like a big boy! [15:02] well, how did you made it? [15:03] I spent time working with the configuration files and testing. [15:04] wycked: congrats i guess [15:04] what are you using? [15:04] XChat or something a cl client [15:04] i just need an AP. somekind of encryption would be nice but not mandatory [15:05] *XChat or a cl client [15:05] shouldn't it just work? [15:05] SigmaVirus24: XChat, i would CLI but i'm reading a pdf at the same time [15:05] Azeotrope: what happened with your project to ubuntify slackware? was it successful? [15:05] gashp [15:06] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [15:06] wycked: when you get around to learning a cl client, I suggest irssi personaly [15:06] Azeotrope: truecrypt and all that.. [15:07] and btw i cant believe you value encryption as optional, being a security junkie and all [15:07] truecrypt is a mean to ubuntify slackware? [15:07] sahko: the ap is not for me [15:07] sahko: he means wifi encryption [15:07] i didnt ask about the freakin ap [15:08] Azeotrope: How much time have you spent on this problem? Would it have been cheaper to just get a 2nd nic + a linksys wrt54? [15:08] SigmaVirus24: that is what i usually use, sometimes Emacs, I am still getting used to using CLI for everything, i have a distrust of everything GUI and am spending all of my time trying to learn all the commands I need [15:08] Action: SigmaVirus24 shudders at Emacs [15:08] when you first joined here you are asking security related questions like you do now for hostap. and you claimed ubuntu didd this already. i am asking how did that go [15:08] Azeotrope: I have a feeling that master mode is not supported by either your device or its driver, but I don't know where you are in terms of troubleshooting the issue. [15:08] Action: eviljames <- not a wifi expert. [15:09] eviljames: some people don't troubleshoot anything because it should just work [15:09] and when it doesn't just work, they go to the people who should be able to make it "just work" [15:09] you shouldn't be allowed to use a computer if you don't know how to make it work for you [15:10] Azeotrope: when you first joined here you are asking security related questions like you do now for hostap. and you claimed ubuntu didd this already. i am asking how that went. ? [15:10] (not you specifically eviljames, in case that wasn't already clear) [15:10] eviljames: i'm trying with this because is more like a challange. ultimately, i'll buy a router and that will be the end of it [15:10] Azeotrope: did you manage to get what you wanted out of Slack? [15:11] Gatto (~Romeo~@host197-75-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:11] hello slack people ^^ [15:11] wycked: just a pro-tip, use VIm [15:11] :P [15:11] sahko: yes. ubuntu was very easy but also kept me away from many things. i've learned more using slack thant using ubuntu [15:11] hello Gatto [15:12] hey Gatto [15:12] god my lag sucks balls... if only my ISP would work for me [15:12] Azeotrope: do you use any kind of encryption with Slackware now [15:12] ? [15:12] disk encryption that is.. [15:12] i have a problem with nfs, http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=u3muid [15:12] I don't think the disk encryption is the issue here [15:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] SigmaVirus24: I have used VIM, just hate the modes thing, its irritating [15:13] antiwire: not today...he was talking about getting truecrypt to work for a month or so [15:13] sahko: yes, luks for my home and truecrypt for other partitions [15:13] Gatto: when you run "dmesg" what message do you get about the invalid format [15:14] sahko: luks, not truecrypt [15:14] ok, just wondering [15:14] Unknown symbol :S [15:14] what unknown symbol ? [15:15] dive: ping [15:15] nfs: Unknown symbol rpc_put_task [15:16] and loop exportfs: exports duplicate symbol exportfs_decode_fh (owned by kernel) [15:16] wario, pong [15:16] you use the slackware provided kernel, right ? [15:16] wycked: it's irritating unless you're using it properly :P [15:16] yeah [15:17] how do i set up KDE so that when i move a program to another workspace, the program disappears from my taskbar till i go to that workspace? [15:17] stuart_: ask in #kde [15:17] Gatto: the "rpc_put_task" is probably in the sunrpc module [15:17] can you tell us from the dmesg output why the sunprc module failed ? [15:17] dive: I saw something about you post and svga_helper module.. [15:18] yeah - slack doesn't use it atm, but you can recompile the source and get it to work [15:18] dive: to run links -g now do I really have to chmod /dev/mem? [15:18] stuart_: you can set the taskbar to show only apps in the same workspace [15:18] okay [15:18] wario, or sudo links -g [15:18] but chmod /dev/mem would be safer [15:19] Lord_Khelben, where would that setup be [15:19] nvm found it thanks [15:19] dive: that brings my 2nd question not sure if you might know though even when I run as root links -g svgalib is basically telling me it can't find a framebuffer device. though I use kms [15:20] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:20] and then tells me to use -mode and list the supported resolutions. When I use one my screen goes a monochrome color and freezes and I have to hard reboot to kill it [15:20] Lord_Khelbene tail -f /var/log/messages [15:20] [15:21] [cut] [15:21] Apr 11 21:18:28 Hercules modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting nfsd (/lib/modules/2.6.33.1-smp/kernel/fs/nfsd/nfsd.ko): Invalid module format [15:21] Gatto: don't paste >3 lines here. use a pastebin [15:21] also seeing svgalib: ark: Unknow chiptype 0. after I run links -g as root. [15:21] wario, not sure about kms - I haven't tried links in it yet [15:21] ops sorry ^^ [15:21] dive: well it used to work. so I don't know what the deal is now [15:22] anyway, thanks for the info. [15:22] Gatto: try the following: dmesg -c >/dev/null -> modprobe sunprc -> dmesg [15:22] thats 3 commands [15:23] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:24] idem [15:25] same warning :S [15:25] it should say which symbol it can't find [15:26] pastebin the dmesg output. it should be very small after the "dmesg -c" [15:28] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) joined ##slackware. [15:28] guys what is this nepomuk and akonadi thing? [15:29] nepomuk is something like desktop search. it tags files and then you can quickly search them. something like that [15:30] you can disable nepomuk/strigi if it eats too many resources [15:30] stuart_: http://tinyurl.com/ppgw37 [15:30] Lord_Khelben: http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=ja51k3 [15:31] Lord_Khelben, have you ever had the need for this nepomuk thing [15:32] stuart_: many people use it and say it is nice. i never liked these schemantic desktops and stuff. i don't like complicated stuff [15:32] akonadi is something like low level implementation for contacts mails and stuff. i never understood these so i may described it wrongly [15:32] you better google them as surrounder suggested [15:33] yeah tell me about it, i don't like all these complicated stuff [15:33] Gatto: do you run the huge kernel by any chance ? [15:33] huge-smp [15:34] i think this is the cause for "exportfs: exports duplicate symbol exportfs_decode_fh (owned by kernel)" [15:35] there's a cat on my mouse [15:37] _plasmic_ (~sibb@212.183.140.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] then what should I do? change kernel? [15:37] LoL trhodes [15:38] hehe, wrong window, but at least you all can enjoy some absurd humor :) [15:38] is there any wifi scanner for linux that would show me the distance/direction to the ap? [15:38] wavemon sort of helps [15:41] Gatto: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/README.initrd and use the generic kernel. [15:42] Azeotrope: kismet with a gps module attached. That's what I use. [15:42] ah good [15:42] thanks for your support^^ [15:42] bye [15:42] Gatto (Romeo~@host197-75-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [15:43] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] antiwire: you're a hacker? [15:44] Azeotrope: Without much more expensive gear, the best you can get is location approximation based on signal power and GPS coordinates. The alternative is using triangulation and that's much more expensive [15:45] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:45] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] can you use an ordinary card like mine to jam all the 2.5 ghz band? [15:46] why jam the band ? [15:47] this guy only asks about how to wreak wireless havoc [15:48] That's ok, he can't even get an AP to work. I'm not worried at all. [15:48] he's like a wireless h4x0r wannabe who gets his howto tips from ##slackware [15:48] then the answer is probably no, otherwise everyone and his brother would get "an ordinary card" and "jam bands" [15:49] Tekku (~Tekku@a81-84-75-117.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Azeotrope: wifi cards don't put out that much power. you can casue minor interference though [15:49] if you're clsoe to anther suer [15:49] heh [15:49] I wouldn't even bother with trying to cause interference. Use other methods to disrupt a test network, for research. [15:49] NyteOwl: there's a way to override how much power they can put out though [15:49] intentional jamming is a criminal offense and quite easy to identify if you have the know how [15:50] SigmaVirus24: only up to a point, the transmitter is only *so* powerful. [15:50] SigmaVirus24: Even if you maxed it out you're still talking about mw [15:50] i know but I'm thinking of a classroom prank I've pulled several times [15:50] I intentionally jammed the slice of bread opposite the peanut butter. [15:50] Action: rob0 confesses [15:50] http://i42.tinypic.com/vctf0n.png [15:50] rob0: :) [15:50] Of course if you think the penalties for hacking are bad, you should try the ones for willful interference in a radio communications band :) [15:50] Action: raela sets rob0 on fire as punishment [15:50] jam bands are fun to listen to [15:50] I created that a while ago using kismet and a gps unit [15:51] Action: rob0 holds the bag of marshmallows [15:51] i think it is our duty to report Azeotrope [15:51] trhodes: I like blackberry jam myself :p [15:51] i agree trhodes [15:54] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:56] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) joined ##slackware. [15:58] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] deathof1 (~nic@c-71-61-141-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:03] Nancy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-218.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-184.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:03] Nick change: Nancy -> Guest23307 [16:04] Nick change: Guest23307 -> tuvok302Lappy [16:07] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.56.166) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:09] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-15-176.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:09] http://hothardware.com/News/Holy-Mega-Multitasking-Batman-Intel-Handing-Out-Samples-of-Experimental-48Core-Chip/ <-- anybody want to try and talk Intel into letting them research a forty-eight (48) core chip? [16:10] I got mine right here dude [16:11] i would rather live in a google town, where they are testing the fastest internet connections [16:11] son, you live in a google world [16:12] yeah but i dont have Gb/ps speed [16:12] alisonken1home: be still my beating heart [16:12] have they begun rolling that out yet? [16:12] no, still picking the towns, didn't you hear Topeka, KS changed its name to Google, KS [16:13] ugh [16:13] hah that's a shame "topeka" had so much going for it [16:13] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [16:14] means "i can haz potato" in some indian dialect [16:14] yeah, they;ve gone downhill since changing back from ToPikachu [16:14] er, native american i meant. back off PC police!! [16:15] BTW it's no accident that the ZIP code for there starts with 666. [16:16] That's probably because of Fred Phelps. [16:16] we need some good music to accompany rob0's comment. i propose the theme from Tales from the Crypt [16:16] eviljames, tell me about it :) only selected researchers are getting the mobo/chip setup for testing [16:16] Hey, let's not start an intentional jam session here! [16:16] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:16] what, no jam session, blasphemy [16:17] not the jamming stuff again, you'll wake up azehaxthorpe [16:18] lol. cool nickname [16:18] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.24.43) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Good evening, I want to ask you whether once entered boot option in the lilo boot prompt is valid for everytime or on every boot I shoult type the boot option [16:21] Edit your /etc/lilo.conf [16:21] Then re-run lilo [16:21] you must enter it at every prompt, but you can make it permanent by putting it in lilo.conf as antiwire said [16:21] I want everytime I start my machine raid is turned off, not everytime to write raid=noautodetect [16:21] InTel_GB, put it as part of the "append=.." line in /etc/lilo.conf [16:21] you can use the "append" definition [16:22] there's the global "append = " line and a per-image "addappend = " option in lilo.conf [16:22] man lilo.conf [16:23] i have one line append="nomodeset". I should add new line, right? [16:23] no [16:23] just leave a space char [16:23] no - edit that line so that it reads append="nomodeset raid=noautodetect" [16:23] space between options [16:24] oh thak you [16:24] man lilo.conf is your friend [16:24] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:24] and metadata 1.X raid is your friend too. they can't be autodetected even if you want to :) [16:25] aveng3r (~avenger@189.121.228.162) joined ##slackware. [16:25] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Nice night :) [16:26] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.24.43) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:28] ll [16:28] S26AD12- [16:28] 1] [16:28] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-097.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:28] wrong window? :) [16:28] aveng3r (~avenger@189.121.228.162) left irc: Client Quit [16:29] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [16:31] could be the cat typing, but its kids that press enter more then once usually [16:32] hald, netbook. I think I don't need it. It would only be used for USB drives & the SD card reader, but I'm the main user, and I have no problem with mount/umount. Candidate for removepkg, or is there some other feature I missed? [16:33] mount/umount is not the only thing using hal, though, last I checked - but it's been a while [16:34] X is compiled to use hal (by default) these days [16:35] ah, so if I do "X -configure" I don't need that either. [16:35] you wouldn't need it, yes. my worry is if it will try to find hal and bork [16:36] Xorg and xfdesktop both need libhal according to ldd [16:36] best way to find out though is....try it :) [16:36] one thing that might be handy, is if I could plug in an external monitor and it Just Work. [16:36] kde needs it too but i can't find which file links to it [16:36] I don't have KDE on this. [16:36] wycked (~wycked@68-190-131-243.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:37] right, I will TIAS, but I just wanted some input [16:37] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] you can recompile X w/o hal if this ends up being an issue [16:38] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:38] jonathanr (~vcbnxn@88-107-175-204.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:38] you can also disable the rc script and just have it lying on the disk [16:41] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:43] daidoji (~daidoji70@adsl-99-157-72-189.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@89.214.195.28) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:56] yup, ldd `which X` shows libhal.so.1 [16:56] so that's what I'll do, leave the package but chmod -x rc.hald [16:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:00] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:01] :) anybody using asus ul30? [17:02] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [17:04] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Gatto (~Romeo~@host197-75-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:05] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-27-255.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. 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[17:19] I think you didn't run "/etc/rc.d/rc.rpc start" [17:19] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:20] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:20] I did [17:20] before I did that i was getting an error about locking and using -o nolock [17:20] are you sure the server's set up correctly? (can other clients mount it OK?) [17:20] is rpc running on the remote as well? [17:21] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] it's a ReadyNAS. [17:21] remember nfs has to be running on both the server and client [17:21] although I can ssh in. let me see [17:21] i def set up the share to allow CIFS [17:21] CIFS is not NFS [17:21] nfs != cifs [17:21] ah, well shit [17:21] cifs in microsoft new version of network shares [17:22] right. i should have known that. ok, this guy has to support NFS. [17:22] cifs is smb^2 and nfs is well nfs [17:22] "new" ? [17:22] CIFS is basically SMB (or anyway they're both MS-centric protocols) [17:22] CIFS is 10 years old - it was first included in Windows 2000 [17:22] cifs is smb on steroids - according to MS it's the replacement interface specs for all of your networking shares [17:23] however, it wasn't well-supported by samba until 3 or 4 years ago [17:23] adaptr, "new" as in "the latest that MS has decided to promote against everyone else" :) [17:23] it's "new" as opposed to SMB, the "old" one [17:23] hardly, SMB/CIFS consistently performs better than NFS ever did [17:24] depends on your environment, but I will note there is supposed to be some improvement in network shares for windows systems [17:24] in fact, SMB has become so pervasive that many Linux distros use it in favour of NFS because .. everybody will have it [17:24] sorta the way "New York City" is 500+ years old, but it's still newer than old York in England... [17:24] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:24] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-132-190.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:25] adaptr: do modern MS implementations of CIFS support UNIX-style permissions? (I know Samba has extensions for them) [17:25] rbellamy (~rbellamy@adsl-69-105-233-172.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] last time I tried SMB between two Linux boxes, it worked fine, but all files showed up owned by root:root and mode 755, not ideal [17:26] also, the new generation cifs on win7 brought back the old favorite winnuke by popular demand [17:26] heh crap, i didnt enable the NFS service. [17:26] Urchlay: the *MS* implementation supports the full MS mandatory ACLs. Unix does not AFAIK [17:26] i dunno why I saw CIFS and thought NFS [17:26] anyway, thanks for the face slap [17:26] adaptr: v4 ACLs afaik are supported in unix, provided that the underlying filesystem supports them. [17:26] anytime. always glad to help you with the other cheek [17:27] MS mandatory ACLs... do they map to UNIXey permissions in a way that makes sense? (not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know) [17:27] eviljames: still a lot more involved than standard unix ACLs - 29 since last count, per object [17:27] One thing I never did figure out was now to use CIFS + Unix extensions like a transparent remote Unix filesystem. Seems like each user has to mount his/her own share. [17:27] owner/group/other, read/write/execute [17:27] Urchlay: they should, since straight r/w/x exist [17:27] and two dozen not so straight ones [17:28] Of course I never bothered to try very hard, because NFS works. [17:28] yeah, I recall reading about MS-style ACLs back when they were new (NT 4 maybe) and going "damn, that's confusing" [17:28] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] it's all moot, behold the coming of the CEPH! [17:28] which doesn't make them *bad* of course [17:29] Urchlay: personally, I find them to be absolutely mindboggling at times. it is , for example, perfectly possible to lock yourself out from all filesystem operations AS ADMINISTRATOR [17:29] d'oh! [17:29] mancha, I don't think CEPH will replace ACL's and such :) [17:29] huh? [17:29] Yes, that's the thing. Windows can, in theory, be secured, but no one outside of Redmond really knows how. [17:30] the required steps to regain access are: 1. grant yourself GRANT OWNER permissions on the entire drive, 2. take ownership of the entire drive, then 3. correct permissions on files [17:30] ouch [17:30] the trick is that you can never lose the rights to grant yourself rights ;) [17:30] everything else you can remove [17:30] or else, 1. Reformat, 2. Reinstall OS, 3. Restore everything else from backups (you *did* make backups, right?!) [17:30] yeah, sure, microsofties making backups... [17:31] pUHLEAZE [17:31] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:31] diven (~diven@cpe-72-183-237-2.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:31] eh, unix/linux/etc shops are no better in general [17:31] adaptr that's like the most powerful acid that could eat through everything, and then they asked "now what do we bottle it in?" [17:31] Urchlay: I find that mixed environments tend to be better off since they have two distinct sets of idiocy to protect [17:31] it reuiqres twice the thinking [17:32] I did chmod 777 *.* -R as root once [17:32] I watched a guy carefully rotate & label backup DVDs, with everything documented fully... and then the one time we need to restore something, it turns out that the DVDs are *blank* [17:32] do not do that. [17:32] do not run that. [17:32] It totally hosed my system [17:32] our cron job had been wailing about write errors, which got emailed to root, which ended up in this guy's inbox, which got ignored by him... [17:32] of course [17:32] as it should be [17:33] emails shoudl go to his boss, not to him [17:33] ./etc becomes a disaster and /usr is an absolute useless mess [17:33] it was a 3-man dev team, he was the boss of it [17:33] we get systems that switch to r/o mode all of the time - problems with some of the raid cards [17:33] his boss was the CEO, who wouldn't know how to read error messages from a DVD burner [17:33] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:34] startups suck... however, they're the only tech jobs a guy like me ever stands a chance of getting and keeping, unless I want to become a 100% independent contractor [17:34] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:35] (which I tried for a while, apparently I'm too honest and not aggressive enough to survive as a contractor) [17:35] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] i'd reassess that...even if it seems so at first, you would succeed being honest [17:35] I rather have a W-2 [17:36] Urchlay, I just prefer the office environment myself - or in the case of DH, the NOC environment [17:37] if "not aggressive enough" is code for lazy or unmotivated then i'dagree, it's a liability [17:37] Tekku (~Tekku@a81-84-75-117.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:37] lots of hungry folks out there and the pie is only so big... [17:37] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [17:38] "not aggressive enough" usually means "I don't stab people in the back enough to keep billing people for substandard service that requires frequent re-service" [17:40] ++ alisonken1home ; [17:40] "I don't leave ticking timebombs in a cron job in order to bill for a new service request" [17:41] Budd^_ (~budd@76.252.164.74) left irc: Quit: [BX] Tony the Tiger uses BitchX. It's Grrrrrrrrreat! [17:42] why my dmesg output is -> http://pastebin.com/4zcgnRJW :-F [17:42] hahaha [17:43] lol [17:43] thanks for the gum ball [17:43] What have you done to wpa_supplicant's config? [17:44] slackie - wireless? looks like a tcpdump rather than a dmesg dump [17:44] wither that or a wireshark dump [17:44] either [17:44] it looks like verbose mode with keys shown [17:45] slackie: are you running a custom kernel? [17:45] that looks like you might have enabled debug messages for the wireless stack [17:46] Linux/net/mac80211/tkip.c [17:46] hmm, ok, perhaps that was caused by airolib [17:47] Those are kernel debug messages [17:48] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-27-255.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [17:48] Camarade1Tux (~adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [17:51] Camarade1Tux: did you use bonnie++ from sbo? [17:52] Budd^ (~budd@76.252.164.74) joined ##slackware. [17:54] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] eviljames: yes [18:00] Camarade1Tux: hrm, won't package for me. [18:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426763.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:01] yeah, OK, "lazy and unmotivated" might be an accurate description [18:01] eviljames: what error? 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'cat /var/log/packages/nvidia-kernel*" or so [18:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-73-155.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:44] i read a couple of reviews that compared jedit favorably to xemacs, so i decided to give it a try [18:44] one sec i think i got it [18:44] phuk (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:45] jedit is slow and the hexedit plugin is pathetic [18:45] but at least it sucks the same on all platforms =) [18:46] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:47] phuk: You can usually just run the NVIDIA installer as root, and that'll take care of everything. Blacklist nouveau, and modprobe nvidia, and add it to xorg.conf. You can get by without the Slackbuild without much trouble. 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[20:52] I am thinking about giving netbeans a try for php [20:53] rworkman: ping [20:53] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [20:56] rworkman: Never mind, read on and decided to test further. [20:56] Screw it, Let's Ride. [20:56] Budd^ (~budd@76.252.164.74) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:00] lucaspeto (~lucas@187.101.58.71) joined ##slackware. [21:00] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Quit: madness begins [21:01] lucaspeto (lucas@187.101.58.71) left ##slackware. [21:01] lucaspeto (~lucas@187.101.58.71) joined ##slackware. [21:02] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:03] lucaspeto (~lucas@187.101.58.71) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:04] anyone good with acpid ? 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I've tried everything I thought and I can't seem to get it working properly [21:13] I mean I can connect without adding iptables exceptions but I don't want just anybody to be able to connect ya know. [21:14] Bl0tt0 (~Bl0tt0@24-148-45-78.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] So use a proper password? [21:15] does anyone know how to set vim so that it doesn't append a newline character to the end of a text file? [21:15] use a key [21:15] That also. [21:17] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [21:19] hexdump_, just enable rsa keys alone to connect to the box or use some form of port knocking [21:19] hexdump_ (~hexdump@cpe-65-185-13-167.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:20] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:22] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:22] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-22.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:22] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [21:22] hexdump_ (~hexdump@cpe-65-185-13-167.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] ah ha I think I know the reason why now [21:25] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:25] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-92-76.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Peace out ;-) [21:30] man I don't get it [21:30] wycked (~wycked@68-190-131-243.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:32] hexdump_: what are you trying to do/understand? [21:33] I just one a single ip to connect to ssh [21:33] TriniTuX_ (~clayton@cuscon122783.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:33] I tried adding port 48206 and port 22 [21:34] ah. try googling for more help with ip tables? [21:34] to a single ip then dropping them [21:34] s/ip tables/iptables/ [21:34] because I used netstat after I successfully connected before adding exceptions and that is what showed up [21:34] also check out http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [21:35] TriniTuX (~clayton@cuscon152881.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [21:35] lol [21:35] alright sorry folks [21:35] I'll try and figure it out [21:36] Bl0tt0 (Bl0tt0@24-148-45-78.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware. [21:36] I wasn't trying to get somethin for nothin I just thought I tried everything, but I'll read up a bit more no problamo. You guys are always helpful anyway [21:36] I'll try to solve this one on my own. [21:38] hexdump_: did you read toh man pages for ssh? [21:38] s/toh/the/ [21:38] honestly no I haven't read them all sorry :( [21:38] I'll read up on them. [21:39] alphad (~quassel@41.207.31.188) joined ##slackware. [21:39] alphad_ (~alphad@41.207.31.188) joined ##slackware. [21:39] I thought I had the hang of it, but it seems there is soooo much more than I thought. [21:39] I'm reading them right now tho. [21:43] corte (~corte@cpe-071-068-038-020.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:43] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] hexdump_: it is linux. There is always so much more then you thought [21:46] yeah I'm starting to learn that. [21:47] I just converted that man page to pdf and added with the others. [21:47] hey guys, got a quick question for anyone around--any idea why locate wouldn't be picking up on my external USB drive? i've tried running updatedb after mounting with no success! [21:48] corte: cat /etc/updatedb.conf [21:48] ah prunepath of media...i had found this before & forgot about it! thanks a ton BP [21:49] no problem. :) [21:50] hexdump_, did you read what i proposed to solve your ssh problem? [21:50] |Slacker| (~cris@187.46.122.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:50] nachox: oh sorry no I was just starting to read up the man page [21:50] hang on let me look back and see [21:51] hexdump_, just enable rsa keys alone to connect to the box or use some form of port knocking [21:51] ah well, I'm going to have to definitely read before I do any of that [21:51] I know what rsa keys are but not port knocking [21:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_knocking [21:51] nachox: See I was just saying it has to be a connection problem because I was getting connection refused and before I added the exceptions there were no problems. [21:52] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] you wanted to be able to be the only one to connect to that ssh, right? [21:52] I have to read the man pages first tho [21:53] yes [21:53] corte (corte@cpe-071-068-038-020.carolina.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:53] I'll go with the method you're showing me. I was just curious why I was able to do so on my other machine, but no biggie. I'm gonna go with your method seems better. [21:53] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:54] well, thats what you want, using ssh keys only, it doesnt matter how much they try to bruteforce your server, the onlyone able to connect to it is someone with the correct ssh key [21:54] right I've created ssh keys they have to be on the client side and server side right [21:54] err rsa keys rather [21:54] using port knocking the only one able to even try to authenticate against the server will be one with the correct port knocking convination [21:55] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:55] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:55] nachox: ya know I think I'm just trying to do too many things at once. I need to slow down and read everything about one thing at a time. [21:55] SigmaVirus24 (WhoAmI@pool-71-251-44-242.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:55] your life :) [21:56] I was trying to use webmin and setup my sendmail server without taking the time to read everything. I thought I could breeze through it but I ran into problems [21:57] lesson learned. Linux is much different than windows. more complex but yet more robust. [21:57] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:58] hexdump_: alot more robust. [21:58] more complex eh? :3 [21:59] windows can be complex. The only thing intoative is the nipple. [21:59] can't both operating systems view nipples easily though? [22:00] nachox: thanks again for your help tho, and to all of the others who have been so patient with and courteous to me. [22:00] fhobia: of course [22:00] I'm gonna go read up thanks everybody. Excellent room! :-) [22:00] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [22:01] hexdump_: :) glad to help [22:02] fhobia, images of nipples only. For providing REAL nipples, computers, uh, suck. [22:03] hey rob0 long time no see [22:03] 83 [22:03] hiya panz [22:03] have not seen much traffic on luna lately [22:04] v4nelle (~van@178-14-130.dynamic.cyta.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:04] Razec (1000@189-92-28-253.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) joined ##slackware. [22:11] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:12] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] heya,folks [22:16] :D [22:16] |Slacker| (~cris@189.65.217.188) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Is anyone running slackware13 64 + VirtualBox (OSE or nonOSE) and able to get sound from both the host and guest? [22:20] -- at the same time. [22:23] stuff like gimp doesn't take advantage of 3d acceleration at all right? [22:24] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:25] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-6.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:26] fhobia, there are a few plugins for gimp that do use opengl [22:26] coast guard is patrolling the sand now [22:26] it's getting nasty [22:27] MLanden: ah, i see [22:28] fhobia, when you mention advantage,I was thinkin' of blender [22:28] ah, cool [22:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:29] Action: fhobia wants to get one of those sexy culv notebooks but knows he needs more power to do graphics stuff :-/ [22:31] Chip`Monk (~fugeddit@cpe-24-166-235-75.columbus.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:41] mach_kernel (~david@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: init 0 [22:43] xtrender (1000@95.69.93.200) joined ##slackware. [22:43] brb [22:43] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-10.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:43] hello.. [22:43] to have run remote x apps. [22:43] do i have to disable the listen tcp from X? [22:44] DURgod (~DURgod@75-134-183-31.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [22:47] |Slacker| (~cris@189.65.217.188) left irc: Quit: Saindo [22:50] cyberpunk never gets old [22:50] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:51] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-102.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:53] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-10.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] xtrender: you can use ssh X forwarding [22:56] edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server machine [22:57] and /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client [22:59] may not even have to edit ssh_config. i need to refresh my memory. [22:59] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-X-Apps-6.html i was following this.. [23:00] see section 6.3 [23:01] ok.. [23:01] but just for the record.. [23:01] where the -nolisten tcp is added? [23:01] it is appened to the startx command [23:01] appended* [23:02] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:02] If you want to run remote X apps, you don't want to add that. [23:03] yes, i was trying to remove that. [23:04] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [23:04] remove it from where? [23:05] my x server is running with the -nolisten tcp [23:05] if you didn't put it there then it's not there to remove. if you did put it "there" you'd know where "there" is [23:05] Are you running Slackware? [23:05] yes i am. [23:06] er.. did PV finally add it in the -nolisten argument to X setarting? [23:06] the last I knew he didn't and you stil lhad to do: startx -- -nolisten yourself [23:06] Action: rob0 checks [23:06] thought it smelled like a bowel movement in here [23:07] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Action: Dominian gives jeev some toilet paper [23:07] thanks but i prefer medicated wipes. [23:07] Preparation H not cutting it? [23:07] not in /usr/bin/startx [23:08] in -current that is [23:09] it wasn't in 13 either [23:09] but im not running current. im running 13 [23:09] 0.o [23:09] or in 12.2 or 12.1 [23:09] Dominian, preparation H2 [23:09] ^^ [23:10] xtrender: when you do a porst scan on your localhost does it show port 6000 open? [23:10] So ask whoever did it, how/where they did. [23:10] Maybe you're just assuming it's -nolisten tcp because other distros do that? [23:10] s/porst/port [23:10] localhost [127.0.0.1] 6000 (x11) : Connection refused [23:11] xtrender: nmap -T4 -F localhost [23:11] is X running? [23:11] 1 AM) wario: xtrender: nmap -T4 -F localhost [23:11] (04:10:44 AM) mancha: is X running? [23:12] yes.. [23:12] Connection refused won't be any different from what nmap finds. [23:12] sory [23:12] Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-04-12 04:10 WEST [23:12] Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1): [23:12] Not shown: 98 closed ports [23:12] Channel flood from xtrender -- kicking [23:12] PORT STATE SERVICE [23:12] 37/tcp open time [23:12] 113/tcp open auth [23:12] Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.76 seconds [23:12] xtrender kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:12] heheh [23:12] Action: Dominian shakes his head [23:13] Could be a silly firewall. [23:13] netstat -tln [23:13] he doesn't know he's been kicked yet. ^>^ [23:13] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:14] xtrender (1000@95.69.93.200) joined ##slackware. [23:16] you messed with any firewalss xtrender ? [23:16] no. [23:16] check .xinitrc maybe you put it in there and forgot. [23:16] pastebin the result from: netstat -tln [23:17] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Nick change: wario -> slackhatter [23:17] or maynbe just the line from: netstat -tln | grep 6000 [23:18] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:18] Nick change: slackhatter -> wario [23:18] http://pastebin.com/b5MqEnBe [23:19] ok, that is not a standard install [23:19] you aren [23:19] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [23:19] in slack or are you using some other slackware based distro? [23:20] no.. slackware dowloaded from website. [23:20] auth and time, probably both running from inetd [23:20] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:20] you need to retrace your steps [23:20] check dmesg as well [23:21] but in htop it says that /X runs with the flag -nolisten. [23:21] i have no idea where it came from. [23:21] alphad_ (~alphad@41.207.31.188) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:21] alphad (~quassel@41.207.31.188) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:21] does slack13 have that as default? [23:22] i didn't think so. [23:22] rob0 said it's not in startx script [23:22] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] just remembered he's on -current though. :) [23:23] well someone on 13 or current, what does: ps auxw | grep /usr/bin/X say? [23:24] root 1912 0.9 2.7 91240 85428 tty7 Ss+ Apr10 20:26 /usr/bin/X -br -novtswitch -quiet -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-zeNDDd [23:24] mad_enz (~Enz@dsl-173-206-77-55.tor.primus.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:24] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [23:24] there you go, it's there by dee-fault [23:25] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:25] this is -current, btw [23:25] xtrender: grep nolisten /usr/bin/startx [23:26] grep nolisten /usr/bin/startx echoes nothing [23:26] how do you start X? [23:27] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [23:27] i used xwmconfig to select my DE and -nolisten is not showing up on mine [23:27] if you boot into it directly this might be a login manager issue, sitwon, do you boot straight to X? [23:28] i boot to init 4 and use slim [23:28] i changed the default to 4 in inittab [23:28] /usr/bin/X -dpi 96 -auth /var/run/slim.auth [23:29] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:29] i think your login manager is doing it. do you kljow which one you use? [23:29] or "session manager" if you prefer that terminology [23:30] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] if you use kdm to logon try: grep nolisten /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc [23:31] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:31] mancha here it is. [23:31] ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp [23:31] try commenting that out (put a # at the start of that line: #Server...) [23:31] dissociative (~hector@adsl190-28-138-161.epm.net.co) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:32] or erase -nolisten tcp and just remember what goes there if you need it again. [23:32] commenting is always the best option =P [23:33] what if you want to pass other options to X ? [23:33] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [23:34] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.126.166) joined ##slackware. [23:35] art_ (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] \o [23:36] i mean.. everytime i change a file i comment the original... [23:36] Nick change: art_ -> evilazzz [23:36] in the future i might want to undo that. [23:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-102.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:38] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:38] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:38] _aheo (~void@213.206.61.235) joined ##slackware. [23:39] _aheo (void@213.206.61.235) left ##slackware. [23:39] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] okay, though it's better to know that -nolisten tcp is the correct command. [23:40] yawn [23:40] :/ took out my laptop's keyboard so the laptop could cool down more and be more quiet :P [23:40] i can't wait to hit this computer with a hammer [23:41] has anyone ever heard of the GET command? [23:41] http ? [23:41] seach [23:41] search a file, i forget for what [23:42] oh sccs stuff, innit? [23:44] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:44] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:44] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:44] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:45] hi all , may someone give the default crontab jobs of root user , i accendently ran crontad -d [23:45] or just tell me how i could retreve the defaults ! [23:45] hehe [23:45] :) [23:45] accidently* [23:46] i told you [23:47] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:47] paissad: from your backup files? [23:47] wario, no backup [23:48] passad last time you asked this i told you to get it from the dcron package [23:48] mancha, yep right, but knowing that i have lost my laptop & forgot what you said, ... [23:49] thanks anyway [23:49] i'm not lucky these days [23:49] paissad: so find your laptop [23:49] paissad: you're lucky mancha is patient :3 [23:50] :) right ^^ [23:51] there is a way to know wich login manager am i using. like a command or something? [23:52] ok its in htop too. [23:52] is it kdm, xtrender ? [23:52] Urchlay_ (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] yes it is [23:52] i wonder if thats the only one that comes with slackware [23:52] slackware ships with xdm too. [23:52] xdm is in slack [23:53] but kdm is higher on the totem pole [23:54] fhobia: /etc/rc.d/rc.4 [23:55] artveee (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:55] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:55] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [23:56] mancha, got it, thanks [23:56] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:57] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.18.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:57] what is the proper way yo change session manager? [23:57] xhmod -x the one you don't want [23:57] comment gdm & kdm in rc.4? [23:57] chmod * [23:58] chmod -x /usr/bin/kdm [23:58] why are you switching it? 2 minutes ago you didn't know what it was! :) [23:59] lol.. [23:59] experimenting.. [00:00] --- Mon Apr 12 2010