[00:04] knoxville (n=knoxvill@c-76-113-247-176.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:04] upyr[ema` (n=user@194.9.231.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] uh [00:07] what the heck is a .txz? [00:07] A package. [00:08] I just got some things from slackware-current and its freaking out and I didn't notice the x [00:08] You've already failed. [00:08] Fatalnix: well you shouldn't mix and match and yes, what rworkman said. [00:08] hmm? [00:08] I can't wait for the release. Everyone who reports upgrade problems may as well wear a stamp on their forehead that says "I didn't read the directions." [00:09] I'm trying to do some kde4 testing, because I was told here that it works with the 12.2 libs, I was just late getting to them [00:09] It doesn't. [00:09] uhm .. you are several months late. [00:09] rworkman, what changed? [00:09] well that was a waste [00:09] Motoko-chan: there are *lots* of new libraries added. [00:09] Ah. [00:09] Fun [00:10] I possibly *can* work by adding all of those, but most likely some of them require other things in the -current tree, so failbus will be waiting. [00:10] theres no way I can get the ones from soon after 12.2 was released? [00:10] t/win 26 [00:11] Fatalnix: The moral of the story is that -current is the development tree of Slackware. You simply don't mix devel and stable. [00:11] yeah, but when I was here talking about it before, -current practicly was stable [00:11] Look at the CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file in the -current tree for a glimpse of what's changed. [00:12] It's still stable. That's not the point. [00:12] "stable" as used in the first sentence means "a stable release, as in 12.0, 12.1, 12.2" [00:12] "-current" does NOT mean "latest packages" -- it means "development tree" [00:12] hm .. [00:12] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Whether the development tree is stable or not, it's not a "stable release" [00:13] i just installed OScommerce on my site ..doesn't look like it's good for us really [00:13] Try Magento. [00:13] i need something realy-realy basic [00:13] OScommerce is rather... awful. [00:13] is the a microscopic alternative package ..? [00:14] I can't think of anything really basic. [00:14] Anyway, I'm off to bed. Long day tomorrow - first day with students :/ [00:14] But I've heard very good things about Magento being flexible. [00:14] vadim (n=Vadim@212.248.18.162) joined ##slackware. [00:14] rworkman: good luck :) [00:14] Thanks :) [00:14] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] rworkman: bring the taser :D [00:15] hmm [00:15] you know what, I don't even use this machine as a production machine [00:15] but hey [00:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:20] yeah the magento ..looks better, kindda a bit more serious too [00:21] tekzo (n=Babbel@5ad18398.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:23] dive: Well, it's acted up now with just battery too, maybe a worse issue than just power/voltage. :/ [00:23] Oh cool, I've never heard of magento [00:23] hmm [00:23] yeah ..i agree that the best word for oscommerce is awful [00:24] fire|bird, same problem as before you took out cpu and heatsink? [00:24] I've been wanting to use Drupal+Ubercart [00:24] There are some cheap themes ~$300 [00:24] dive: yup. :( [00:25] and, I've checked now and the battery is: Capacity 6600 mAh / 6.60 Ah [00:27] dive: beings a different processor/heatsink before solved these issues (temporarily), the mobo could be giving the wrong power/voltage and frying the cpu, correct? [00:27] maybe.. [00:28] hard to say [00:28] this is just frustrating, even though I can easily swap parts. :P [00:28] make sure your bios is set to safe defaults [00:28] Eeek. Sounds like laptop surgery. [00:29] yeah, I'm using the BIOS defaults and there's nothing really that you can custom set from that. [00:29] caoliver: s/Eeek/fun/ [00:29] It's fun taking it apart, just sucks that it is back to not working right again. [00:30] Having swapped a t5550 out for a T8100, I'd say that was a definition of fun of which I'm unaware. [00:30] Fatalnix (n=bhodgins@64.223.231.203) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:30] could still be power pack giving out wrong voltage. Or could be in the rectifier circuit. [00:30] the voltage regulator. [00:31] On the other hand I'm a software guy. [00:31] dive: If I had linux installed on it, if it was hardware issues, etc. I would probably get more info from logs, etc. eh? maybe? [00:32] Three dangerous things around a computer: 1) a software guy with a soldering iron 2) a hardware guy with a patch 3) a user with an idea. [00:32] Arenics (n=Arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [00:32] hahaha [00:32] fire|bird, maybe with sensors. You can also check voltage in cmos setup with some bioses. [00:32] not with this one I can't. :/ [00:33] If hardware was failing with it, would logs show that? [00:33] well I guess lm_sensors or whatever their modern equivalent is might help. [00:34] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:34] fire|bird, probably normal logs would show errors without specifying what the hardware is doing. [00:34] but sensors can monitor voltage on some mobos. [00:34] bah, I try the power adapter and the light just blinks on and off now. :P [00:35] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:35] maybe that means it's charging battery? [00:35] mine has 2 leds - one power and one battery [00:35] this was with the battery removed. [00:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] you haven't been taking to battery in/out while plugged in and running? [00:36] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [00:36] -to [00:36] no [00:37] joannis (n=joannis@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) left irc: "leaving" [00:47] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] damn, i dont get it; all these problems with opera [00:50] lock ups; lost data [00:51] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.74) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Quiznos: I've used Opera since 6.x or 7.x series and never had the issues you've been having. :P [00:51] me, prev cers, me neither. [00:52] cers/vers/ [00:52] What's different? [00:52] to us caoliver? [00:52] are there any instructions for building a slackware install from just the sources? or would that be something that i'd learn after doing random stupid stuff to my slack install? [00:52] duno; opera isnt FOSS [00:53] archiebenedict you mean rebuilding everything? [00:53] No instructions, but you could eventually learn it with some study. [00:53] the way Pat does? [00:53] Action: Motoko-chan re-built the setup initrd for Alphaslack a while back [00:53] You mean you did an "up"grade, and things broke? [00:54] The key to the system is the Slackware package scripts. [00:54] i can envision a makefile distribution; but not by using gnumake. [00:54] Action: Motoko-chan has ported the system to CentOS for building custom packages without RPM [00:56] Motoko-chan what system [00:56] Slackware's pkgtools [00:56] ah kool; how did it go after implantage? [00:57] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] what did you do with rpm's db? [01:00] Nothing [01:00] This was more on-top, not a full replace. [01:00] I have custom stuff I do with Apache HTTPd and PHP. [01:00] ah k [01:01] PkgTools lets me manage the install and upgrade better than a manual compile and install [01:01] nods [01:01] good idear [01:01] It's all about consistency. [01:01] sure [01:01] An important thing when running production servers. [01:01] def. [01:01] You know the company Henkel? [01:01] not off hand [01:01] Loctite? [01:01] yea [01:02] Henkel makes it. [01:02] ok [01:02] http://www.useloctite.com/ <-- Powered by Slackware [01:02] and you're henkelite? [01:02] neat [01:02] well you see Default HTTPd and PHP dont work where i am because of the amount of UTF-8 utilized in everything [01:02] The company I work with manages some of their servers. [01:02] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (devel) (IRC client for Emacs)" [01:02] gotcha [01:03] Check the Server header string that is returned by that page [01:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:03] wsp4th char encoding doesnt matter to apache [01:03] except to tell client [01:03] Alphaslack? for Alphas? [01:03] does when the idiot Dev people write stupid custom modules [01:03] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:03] heh ok [01:04] dchmelik, yes. 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[01:16] could it be the resolution? or moose? when i hit a anchor, two same-addr'd tabs open [01:16] Action: quasar stabs a random sub [01:16] Action: Quiznos oozes [01:16] quasar: kde will not be on SBo, it will probably end up in current, maybe as update to 13 down the road. :) [01:16] Stuff that is included in slack, i.e. kde, does not go onto SBo. [01:17] deco: It is imo, it seems faster, has a new theme (plasma air) and various, yet subtle, ui improvements. [01:17] sounds awesome :-D [01:18] For example, if you have the desktop plasmoid going, if you mouse over a folder, it pops up with the contents of that folder and then you can look through that, scroll, click things, etc. (This being right on the desktop, not in dolphin or anything.) [01:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] how is it on RAM usage? [01:19] on a default install [01:20] seems fine to me, haven't really looked into ram usage yet, but seems to run great. [01:22] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] not all wm switchers in wm's are the same; too bad there's no standard way to query sys for installed wm's [01:27] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.96.9) left irc: "nite" [01:28] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [01:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [01:33] hmmm weird how amarok2 takes 63mb of RAM [01:34] that's a bit too much i guess [01:35] to do what? [01:35] right now kde 4.2 is consuming 500mb of RAM running konqueror for browser and pidgin [01:36] Quiznos: doing nothing [01:36] wow [01:36] Quiznos: i just left it running [01:36] deco: what are you using to check that? [01:36] k [01:36] no music playing [01:36] fire|bird: htop [01:36] deco: k, that's what I use too. :) [01:36] he's playing around :) [01:37] he's exercising his geekiness [01:37] I can't check right now because I'm converting a hard drive image to a different format which is taking it's toll. :P [01:37] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-139-164.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] fire|bird: oh :P [01:37] well i got 1.2 gig of RAM hope it never makes me use swap [01:38] I have 1G of ram [01:38] fire|bird as the girls from "Mel's Diner" sang; "one block at a time" (aka the name of the show) [01:38] it's the plasmoids that are consuming the most RAM [01:38] lol [01:39] deco: well I have a few of those running. [01:39] fire|bird and the sassy waitress who said "Mel, kiss my bits" [01:39] lol [01:39] haha [01:39] the sitcom with a very young hottie named Valerie Bertinellie [01:39] with old sister, divorcee mom, and umm [01:40] who was the apt building handy man? [01:40] fire|bird: i didn't add any ,just running the default ones:P [01:40] his name S* [01:40] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-51-228.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] deco: well, that's only the desktop plasmoid. :P [01:41] fire|bird: plasmoid shows up 8 times on htop each consuming 5mb of RAM [01:42] ouch [01:43] wy would opera be opening two tabs on one click? [01:43] same content [01:44] you mean when you open it or what? [01:44] yes [01:44] on click [01:45] Hmm, not sure. Tried reinstalling it, or at least move ~/.opera to something else and try with a fresh config? [01:45] i could do the mc [01:45] mv [01:45] what the ... konqueror was consuming 100mb :O [01:45] hi [01:45] more food [01:46] hey juice [01:47] wezeeep [01:47] what's new? [01:47] Quiznos: yeah, try mv and see if it works any better with a fresh config [01:47] yay more fo0d [01:47] ok [01:47] man [01:47] i cant sleep [01:47] i quit smoking, then i got this withdrawel flu [01:47] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.74) left irc: "leaving" [01:47] juice: not much, you? [01:47] so now i lie in bed and just crave [01:47] :/ [01:47] just got home from work [01:47] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) joined ##slackware. [01:48] KidneyBeans increase vit & min supplements! [01:48] eating ham and cheese hot pockets [01:48] you guys are make me hungry now [01:48] lol [01:48] quiznos apparently i need lots of water [01:48] beans, jucie, meat, cheese [01:48] KidneyBeans that too [01:48] lol [01:48] i have some bacon in the fridge [01:48] first time evah [01:48] mmm bacon [01:48] basic steak and salad [01:48] i do to [01:48] you know what i need? a nice salad [01:48] omg meeeeeeeeeeeeeeet [01:48] ew salad [01:48] i ate some home made hot dogs :D [01:48] juice: lol, I haven't had a hot pocket for years. [01:48] i'm not a bunni [01:48] home made dogs? [01:49] what? [01:49] damn, i'm moving in with you!!! [01:49] you aint lived man [01:49] well not real hot pokcet swann brand [01:49] brb [01:49] Just cheese sandwiches are good. [01:49] you can get salad thats more fatenning than mcdonald's [01:49] opera operation... [01:49] quiznos have a chicken n greek salad man [01:49] s/pokcet/pocket [01:49] Quiznos: with a coke ;-) [01:50] make that schwans [01:50] lol [01:50] i quit drinking too [01:50] bad typing already [01:50] juice: haha [01:50] just have coke [01:50] tenderloin salad with a glass of nice fizz. [01:50] nothing mixed [01:50] i would quit doing drugs but i aint on dem. [01:51] and coke the drink :) [01:51] hey [01:51] i heard that in the usa [01:51] you get something like 'apple drink' [01:51] and 'grape drink' [01:51] is tha tlike a drink thats not a juice? [01:51] fizz is a nice "grape drink" though fermented. [01:52] hrm [01:53] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] there is tang [01:53] re Quiznos here [01:53] a orange drink mix [01:53] in gooy [01:53] s/a/an [01:53] grrrrr [01:54] why not just drink orange juice? [01:54] damn 2pt font in chat window and cant adjust it [01:54] PurpleSmurf: why can't you change it? [01:54] lollll [01:54] brb [01:54] Action: PurpleSmurf gropes the tab; [01:55] is that you fire|bird [01:55] you're so far away [01:55] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-51-228.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:55] lol [01:55] where to change it? [01:55] PurpleSmurf: haha, yup, it's me. What irc client are you using? [01:55] opera [01:55] View/Zoom is inactive [01:55] cant be selected [01:56] PurpleSmurf: Ah, ok, yeah, you can't use zoom in irc in opera, you have to change the font elsewhere. just a sec. [01:56] who needs orange juice when you have SunnyD :P [01:56] juice: or sunkist. :P that's good enough, right? :P [01:56] for sure [01:58] PurpleSmurf: Tools --> Preferences --> Advanced --> Fonts is one spot, more font adjustments can be made in opera:config [01:58] fire|bird: ok; got the window text of room upto 20pt; but not the text-entry [01:58] i can seeeeeeeeeeeee [01:58] do americans ever take multi vitamins? [01:58] read [01:59] i do; but usually only individual item pills [01:59] KidneyBeans: many do, yes. [01:59] carrot, Bcomplex, d, e, etc [01:59] beta carotine [01:59] i seemed to me that being unhealthy seems to be a strong cultural pop fashion phenomenon in the usa. [01:59] PurpleSmurf: yeah, I'm not sure if you can change the size text of what you type, I'm checking. [01:59] ty [01:59] yw [02:00] KidneyBeans: what's your locale? [02:00] south africz [02:00] south africa [02:00] KidneyBeans: we americans are quite consious of our health; both from a practical POV and biblical [02:00] ok [02:00] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Client Quit [02:00] where its fashion to put people into power that cant do their jobs. [02:00] yea :) that happens too [02:00] were alittle conflicted. [02:00] lawl [02:00] maybe but that's not primary [02:01] yeh but you still somehow managed to elect a black guy [02:01] its pretty funny [02:01] right - politicians in other countries are very competent [02:01] yea, that's part of the problem [02:01] that's part of the fliction [02:01] PurpleSmurf: Ok, in a new tab in opera, if you type opera:config and then click fonts, you can set other fonts there, one being Form Input, that *might* change the text you type, but not sure. [02:01] fire|bird: yea, that's where i was [02:01] ok [02:01] chking Input [02:02] still having mouse problems tho [02:02] dude [02:02] mancha: I think I may have gotten the hdd image working in a vm, not sure yet, waiting for the image conversion to finish. [02:02] polliticians shouldnt have ANY power whatsoever. [02:02] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:02] fire, excellent news [02:02] they have to spend too much time looking good to be able to learn anything usefull [02:02] yay i just copied the easylist.txt from adblock plus and added to konqueror now i see no ads with when using konqueror :D [02:03] mancha: I'll let you know when I know for sure if it works. And in other news, my laptop is acting up again. :P [02:03] brb [02:03] deco: cool. Konqueror is a very nice browser, that plus kget for downloading. [02:03] vadim (n=Vadim@212.248.18.162) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] erm [02:04] 'nice browser' is there such a thing? [02:04] yeah, imo there is. [02:04] fire|bird: nop; didnt change input textsize [02:04] vadim (i=0@188.128.90.11) joined ##slackware. [02:04] fire|bird: yeah it's nice :D but i rather use wget for downloads :P [02:04] I take it, like with many other things, you have a way different opinion on that too KidneyBeans? :) [02:05] deco: yeah, wget works too. :P [02:05] wget ftw! [02:05] morning [02:05] i love using wild cards with wget :D [02:05] PurpleSmurf: Hmm, ok, that probably isn't changeable then. I rarely use opera for irc, so I don't know. [02:05] y0 slackytude [02:05] how goes? [02:05] still having mouse clicking probs on menus [02:05] gawd this computer didnt make the genuine advantage test, thingy [02:05] slackytude: hmmm do you live in europe ? [02:05] fire|bird: kk [02:05] deco: yeah, Germany [02:05] deco: I live inside my head, but my body is in europe [02:06] haha [02:06] lol [02:06] y0 fire|bird [02:06] slackytude: very good point [02:06] lol :P [02:06] i live where i sit, stand, walk. [02:06] psalms 1.1 [02:06] I lived in my head once, I got evicted. :/ [02:07] lol [02:07] PurpleSmurf: pull the other one, it got bells one Letters 12:23 [02:07] i dont get it [02:07] i live in a cubical ..no space :-( [02:07] deco: any reason for asking? [02:07] i live in a room [02:07] is there living in a zero point field? [02:07] :( [02:07] deco: rent the cubical next to it? [02:07] slackytude: oh because you said morning [02:07] lol [02:07] Where I lay my head is home Metalica:Wherever I may roam [02:07] slackytude: 11pm in california [02:08] i live with a horse with no name [02:08] lol [02:08] Mon Aug 10 23:08:19 PDT 2009 [02:08] i live with a starry, starry night [02:08] antiwire: bah, my clock must be off again, I got 01:06. :P [02:08] Mon Aug 10 11:08:27 PDT 2009 [02:08] oh man i could hear that tune NOW [02:08] off to the tube.com [02:09] i think im ditching firefox for konqueror :P [02:10] 11 Aug 01:10:00 ntpdate[16931]: step time server 66.250.45.2 offset 141.471663 sec [02:10] i see a purple smurg [02:10] smurfg [02:10] i mean smurf [02:12] 10 Aug 23:12:06 ntpdate[22715]: step time server 208.75.88.4 offset -11.097945 sec [02:12] i'm lagged DAMN IT [02:13] haha [02:13] catch up man. :P [02:13] I guess that means you're living in the past? :D [02:14] wicked lag here [02:14] just sync'd finally [02:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [02:16] antiwire, did you see my msg in #slackbuilds? [02:17] yep [02:17] so do you want to be the maintainer or should i do it? [02:17] or can more than one person do it? [02:18] fire|bird op kinda works; moose prob still present [02:18] i guess i better pastebin my changes before asking such questions... hold on a sec [02:19] go nuts [02:19] go freaking wild [02:20] be the katrina of SlackBuilds [02:20] lol [02:20] I found some kind of bug. [02:20] squash it!!! [02:20] step on it [02:20] Xorg crashes if I try to make Konsole bigger. [02:21] kil it [02:22] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-b5b166e68ffeedf1) joined ##slackware. [02:24] nuke it [02:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOan_0acqE8&feature=channel [02:25] Quiznos, btw we made you hungry.... Look at your name it makes everyone else hungry... [02:26] deco: move to a sane timezone [02:26] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:27] PurpleSmurf: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_the_other_one,_it%27s_got_bells_on [02:27] antiwire: cute [02:30] juice yea yea sure sure; heard that for years; but y'all never said anything to me :) [02:30] or in ##Linux [02:31] Action: quasar yawns [02:31] coffee anyone? [02:31] me [02:31] slackytude i'm PurpleSmurf too in console; PS is in gooey [02:32] i mean, Quiznos is textmode, PurpleSmurf is gooey [02:33] PurpleSmurf is current without chat atm [02:33] slackytude: i like my pacific time :P [02:33] Quiznos: I c [02:33] deco: well, suit yoerself [02:35] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:36] bhodgins (n=root@64.223.231.203) joined ##slackware. [02:36] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] fogus (n=fogus@d75-157-237-3.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] I'm curious if the upgrade of wpa_supplicant in current with .29 kernel fixes the panic with assigning essid's [02:37] hopefully :) [02:38] can you describe this bug a bit more? [02:38] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:38] does anyone know if this sequence of numbers means anything specific? 2 506 2010 [02:38] 'the thing that should not be'--Metallica [02:38] I have found that sequence in three different places around this city [02:38] antiwire: where did you get my phone number? [02:39] took a picture of what it looks like too [02:39] one sec [02:39] antiwire: 25.06.2010 ? [02:39] slackytude: He's been hackin your computerz. :P [02:39] are you trying to figure out the sequence or series of it? [02:39] mdadm question: it says (at README_RAID) that I can use a raid for the "root" partition (see "every setup will require a root partition"). what I don't understand is this: if I have a root partition in a raid (not what I am planning, but hey) and then I want to have the /home directory to be in another raid, how is that possible (note: I am not asking how to do it)? in windows I cannot have D:\home\ be in a different raid than the D:\ di [02:39] did you gtoogle it? [02:39] I would assume it's a date of some sort, especially because the 2010 part. [02:40] those are hurley's winninglotto numbers [02:40] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-139-164.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:40] fire|bird: aye [02:41] here is what the sequence looks like in each difference place that i have seen it: http://i31.tinypic.com/1zvdaut.jpg [02:41] anyone know what that is? [02:41] is that an & sign or something? [02:41] wtf does it all mean? [02:42] the other zeros look different [02:42] can i get a ping pls? i think i'm lagged [02:42] antiwire: yeah, doesnt look like a zero [02:43] antiwire: obviously, the end is near [02:43] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-26-82-254-103-52.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:43] antiwire: And this is just randomly around town, anything else on the paper or whatever it's on? [02:43] slackytude: maybe it's a sideways alpha? [02:43] feb 5&6 2010? [02:43] Each instance that I've seen that, it has been drawn.written exactly the same way [02:43] fire|bird: random places, one was paper taped to a fence [02:44] mancha: that's a good guess. [02:44] can i get a ping pls? i think i'm lagged [02:44] does anyone have an idea about how those directories work? [02:44] does anyone know what the significance of feb 5&6 2010 might be? [02:44] what does Quiznos mean by "lagged"? [02:44] antiwire: Does your city have a Web site where you could look up possible events or whatever going on Feb. 5 & 6 2010? [02:44] antiwire: what is the context? [02:44] no context. random placement [02:45] fire|bird: I checked, nothing [02:45] guys: I guess my same question applies to encrypted directores. [02:45] fire|bird what hapd? [02:45] antiwire what happend on that date and where? [02:45] your chances of finding the correct meaning is next to nothing [02:46] for all you know it might be a drunken bum making these [02:46] Quiznos: that date hasn't happened yet... [02:46] antiwire: what about: http://www.catchthespiritlutheran.org/ :P [02:46] antiwire right; doh; what do you suspect? [02:46] antiwire: Hmm, well it's obviously significant in some way, important to someone. This is an out there idea, but tineye.com is a search where you upload an image and it searches it's index of images for something similar, shot in the dark, but might produce something. :P [02:46] and where did you see those nums? [02:47] Quiznos: there's a buffer you can read [02:47] antiwire yea; what town? [02:47] antiwire: you could create a local group in myspace or whatever, invite people from your city, to find the meaning [02:47] might be some marketing campain [02:47] is this the wrong channel? [02:47] fogus no [02:48] fogus: I don't understand your question [02:48] what did it end with? maybe it got cut off [02:48] there shouldn't be an issue with having / and /home on different RAID volumes... [02:48] antiwire: well, I don't get the cascading then [02:49] antiwire what town are you finding these dates? [02:49] _jhw_ (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [02:49] fogus: what part don't you get? / will be mounted first and then /home [02:49] antiwire: if I put a parrent directory, let's say /home for the mement, on a specific raid, when why won't /home/some_dir/ also be in that raid? [02:49] it would be [02:50] if /home is on sda2 /home/* is also on sda2 [02:50] ok, so why is it when you put / (by itself) in on a raid (as in the guide), you can also have a subdir on a different raid? [02:50] or is the / (by itself) a special directory [02:51] ? [02:51] what subdir are you talking about? [02:51] antiwire: I understood that /home was a subdir of /, no? [02:51] yes [02:52] but you are talking about mounting /home from another volume... [02:52] well, if you put a parrent directory on a given raid, R1, then all subdirs should also be on that R1 [02:52] dude [02:52] it's a mounted volume [02:52] or can you override it somehow? [02:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [02:53] the best way i can explain this is to call / "virtual" [02:53] so does mounting override parent settings? [02:53] fstab would have / mounted from /dev/md0 and /home mounted from /dev/md1 [02:53] now [02:53] if md1 was not mounted, /home would be empty. [02:53] /home, the directory would still exist on / [02:53] but it would be empty [02:54] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [02:54] just like /mnt has /mnt/cdrom /mnt/floppy [02:54] (what is fstab, the author of that guide or a program?) [02:54] wow. [02:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:54] you don't have a linux system at all? [02:55] antiwire: just starting out. I ran centos/debian before [02:55] well those have an fstab... [02:55] I didn't see fstab in the guide. I may be blind (looking into that) [02:55] The file fstab contains descriptive information about the various file systems. fstab is only read by programs, and not written; it is the duty of the system administrator to properly create and maintain this file. [02:55] from the man page [02:56] directories that are below / (ie: /root /usr /boot ...etc) can be mounted from other volumes [02:56] allright. [02:56] Or mounted from other directories. [02:57] but not, on the other hand, /home/some_dir being mounted on a separate raid than /home, correct? because / is virtual? [02:57] first off /home is not a RAID, it would be a mount point [02:57] the underlaying volume is the raid, aka the mounted volume [02:58] right, but the files below it could be on a raid [02:58] for example if we have /dev/md1 and it contains our home directories, we can mount that on /home [02:58] sure [02:58] /home/user1 would be actually part of / [02:58] allright. but /home/* is non-virtual, right? [02:58] oh [02:58] and you could mount /dev/md1 as /home/user2 [02:59] shoot. so none of it cascades? [02:59] what do you mean? [02:59] _jhw_ (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [02:59] every time I make a new directory I have to add it to the raid? [02:59] that's too much work [02:59] ? [02:59] you're not following [02:59] nope [02:59] this is out of the scope of this conversation really [03:00] get a linux with a few hard drives and play [03:00] even one disk with multiple partitions will work for this exercise [03:00] hi people [03:01] hi [03:01] well, can you at least point me to a doc that explains all this directory/virtual/mount point stuff? [03:01] I just explained it the same way it was taught to me. I don't really know of another way to explain it [03:02] wow Hilary got sharp with dumb reporters asking her to channel her husband's opinion. [03:02] / is the top level. / is a directory itself and it contains the rest of the system's directories. lets assume that for our purposes, /home exists [03:03] now I do this: mkdir /home/user1 [03:03] antiwire: well, if I follow the guide and make /home on a separate raid and then do a # mkdir /home/fogus, will my /home/fogus dir be on the same raid that /home was setup to be on? [03:03] yes [03:03] then why did you say "/home/user1 would be actually part of /" [03:04] for example; if /dev/md1 is mounted as /home and you mkdir /home/fogus, fogus is now a directory on /dev/md1 [03:04] wouldn't it be part of the /home raid and not the root raid? [03:04] fogus: because i was nto done talking yet [03:04] is this some troll attempt? [03:04] wtf [03:04] sorry man. that was my misunderstanding. [03:04] /home is the mount point. /home always exists on / [03:04] even if /dev/md1 is mounted there or not. [03:04] right. [03:05] if md1 is not mounted and you mkdir /home/fogus, you just created a directory on whatever volume / is [03:05] anyone remember the command I gave someone to return the runlevel? [03:05] if md1 *is* mounted and you mkdir /home/fogus, you just created a directory on /dev/md1 [03:05] juice: runlevel [03:05] lol [03:06] doh [03:06] antiwire: gotcha. [03:06] wasn't root [03:06] that's why [03:06] thanks [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] juice: better write that down in case you forget it again. :P [03:06] juice: Alan_Hicks did that same thing to me once too [03:06] so now i get to do it to you! [03:07] antiwire: is it possible to make a mount point underneeth /home ? (say, mount /home/fogus on yet another RAID)? (I know its pure insanity) [03:07] yes [03:07] let me type this one out fogus [03:07] sure [03:07] fire|bird, will do [03:08] _jhw_ (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [03:08] I tried grepping the log of the channel for it [03:08] but got too many lines returned and missed it I guess [03:08] lol, and didn't find it. :) [03:08] it found too much crap [03:08] /dev/md0 is / and /dev/md1 is /home and /dev/md2 contains a specifc user's crap, user2. I mount /dev/md1 on /home and /dev/md2 on /home/user2. when i 'touch /home/user2/test it creates a file on /dev/md2 [03:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Nick change: _jhw_ -> Lvcifer [03:09] if md2 is not mounted, a file is created in /home/user2 but on /dev/md1 [03:09] antiwire, what show was that video from? [03:09] antiwire: makes perfect sense now that I shut up and listen to you finish. sorry about before. cheers and many thanks [03:09] anyone know how to use dirmngr? i'm interested in learning how to properly configure it because when i try to send email using kmail it stalls for minutes waiting for dirmngr to do something, i don't know what [03:10] fogus: I hope that helps [03:10] fogus, mount doesn't really care what the files are actually on in terms of hardware/configuration. [03:10] If it's mountable, it'll be present wherever you mounted it to. [03:10] antiwire: which city you in? remind me to not be there in feb 2010 [03:11] ccfreak2k: so mount is kind of like a redirect command. after a dev is mounted to a dir, read/write ops happen to that dev instead of the default dir [03:11] slackytude: lol [03:11] fogus: that's one way to say but it's not really redirecting. [03:11] antiwire: I've been looking this whole time for what that might be and for your city, I've found nothing. :P [03:11] wait, that's almost the 2010 olympics (where I live!) [03:11] fire|bird: me too, i've found nothing [03:11] I'm sure you've search as well. [03:12] Lvcifer (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [03:12] antiwire: It'll be interesting to know what it is though. Hope you have success in figuring it out somehow. [03:12] hardly [03:12] fire|bird: I'll probably find out on feb 5th 2010 [03:12] heh [03:12] city explodes [03:12] haha [03:13] and 6th [03:13] maybe [03:13] or zombies [03:13] _jhw_ (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [03:13] if you last till then from the events of the 5th. :P [03:13] I'll be back for some more questions on using linux to port forward. won't that be fun. 'night! [03:13] night fogus [03:13] fogus (n=fogus@d75-157-237-3.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:13] Action: dive wishes he knew what you are all on about [03:13] actually a explosion wouldnt make much sense since its givinng two days [03:14] or its a pretty slow one [03:14] if a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, then the address of memory makes your floppy disk abort, does the socket packet pocket have an error to report? [03:14] dive: (2009-08-11 01:41:32) antiwire: here is what the sequence looks like in each difference place that i have seen it: http://i31.tinypic.com/1zvdaut.jpg [03:15] dive: antiwire's seeing that around the city he's in. [03:15] maybe antiwire is going psycho like the fight club dude [03:15] weird [03:15] Action: TwinReverb stabs quasar [03:16] quasar: hahahaha, you just make that up? [03:16] nah [03:16] quasar: that's awesome [03:16] "If Dr. Seuss offered Tech Support" [03:16] lol [03:16] there's many more.. I just dont remember them [03:17] and teh crack is starting to kick in so google is failing me [03:17] Facial Plastic Surgery Week: 1 - 5 Feb 2010 [03:17] that's old skool [03:17] he didn't make that up [03:17] dive: lol [03:17] antiwire: I know that now. :P [03:18] Transcultural Memory, 5-6 February 2010, UK  Caleidoscop [03:18] must be that [03:19] I think godzilla will exit the ocean on the 5th and leave on the 6th after destroying the city [03:19] http://www.caleidoscop.org/Members/janina/news/transcultural-memory-5-6-february-2010-uk [03:19] tije (n=tije@201.127.237.239) left irc: "leaving" [03:19] its not even clear its a date [03:19] antiwire: Well, I just say this, hang in there. Have a webcam? Have it on and seeing everything. :) [03:20] well it's just one interpretation [03:20] s/I/I'll/ [03:20] anyone ever done dosbox on slack? I feel like playing some old school games.. Jill of the Jungle ftw and shit [03:20] slackytude: could be anything, just seems like a date. the symbol between the 5 and 6 could be a fish standing on it's head. :P [03:21] quasar: I did [03:22] slackboy: was going to ask a question but I'll save it in case this sbo doesn't work lol [03:22] tab completion fail. :D [03:23] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [03:23] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.193) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:24] true story [03:26] http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/cool_story_bro.jpg [03:26] 3~3~quasar: I use dosbox as well. [03:26] lol [03:27] antiwire: NSFW? [03:27] SFW [03:27] yeah [03:27] it's cool, bro [03:27] nicely done [03:28] Im just careful when I see 4chan [03:28] lol [03:28] thats up there with .cx domains [03:29] back [03:29] side [03:29] circle [03:30] eviljames: how'd the concert go? [03:30] left [03:30] fire|bird, fail [03:30] fire|bird: OHGODYES [03:30] my bluesy, sludgy, slimy metal [03:30] :) [03:30] you have no idea [03:31] dive: don't I always? [03:31] well, phil anselmo is my ozzy osbourne. Pantera literally defined everything I listened to between 1990 and 2000 [03:32] and his blues/metal "sideproject" (aka Down) are not just a band, but an experience [03:32] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [03:32] looks who's here [03:32] n/mailx-12.4-i486-1.txz: Upgraded. [03:32] HOORAY [03:33] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [03:34] Hello! [03:34] antiwire: How are you! [03:35] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:35] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:36] morning all [03:36] a750mhzslinky: Hello! [03:38] moaning [03:39] y0 [03:39] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [03:39] morn ing [03:39] eveing [03:39] even ing [03:39] ha borken like the first morn ing [03:40] yeah, what fire|bird said! [03:40] sigh [03:40] *ing [03:40] fail ing [03:40] 6 hours of work left [03:40] slackytude: please tell me its like 35C+ in germany right now [03:40] eviljames: nah [03:40] way too early [03:41] probably around 28C or so today, maybe a bit hotter [03:41] love it, we're ~20 and rain [03:41] eviljames: heh [03:41] looks dull outside today [03:41] not sure actually, since I have no windows :( [03:42] Im in the dungeon [03:42] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.40) joined ##slackware. [03:42] Action: slackytude turns morlock [03:42] slackytude: even prisoners have a window. :P [03:42] sucks [03:42] no doubt, it is high time you dig a hole. [03:42] Get yourself some natural sunlight, man. We evolved to need it. [03:43] It's 13C here right now, but it's also 02:43 [03:43] poor guy, had to convert units & all. [03:43] :P [03:45] im going to degrade myself, my inner joy, by going to work now. bbbbye. [03:45] well, Im gonna smoke on in 15 minutes or so [03:45] and then its lunch at 12 [03:45] so, just to get this right, there is no proper way to configure ldap authentication on slackware because of PAM missing? [03:46] good morning, btw :) [03:46] apoca: either pam or nss_ldap [03:47] I compiled nss_ldap and I can lookup my ldap-users with "getent passwd", but somethings wrong with transmission or encryption of the password [03:48] apoca: what happens exactly? [03:49] slackytude: I try to login with ssh, but get "sshd: Failed password for tuser" [03:49] apoca: if you use nss_ldap, then the userPassword hash in LDAP must obey to very strict hashing rules. The encryption ususally used by LDAP servers is not compatible with the crypt algorithm used by shadow [03:50] alienBOB: even if I use {CRYPT}? [03:50] I already changed this, because solaris also needs crypt algorithm [03:51] And further, the userPassword attribute must be world-readable or else you need an account that is able to read that attribute and configure your LDAP client to use that account as a proxy, and put it's password in /etc/ldap.secret [03:51] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: "Leaving" [03:52] alienBOB: would you know of a good document regarding ldap and nss_ldap ? [03:52] _jhw_ (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [03:53] apoca: the {CRYPT} is what you need indeed, but it may be required (in the past I needed that on my LDAP server) to also have password-crypt-salt-format "$1$%.8s" [03:53] slackytude: LDAP is black magic, no one documents what they know about it [03:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:54] fun [03:54] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [03:55] alienBOB, um i was going to ask some stuff about dirmngr in relation to LDAP. i see directories called out in "man dirmngr" but they don't exist, no .conf file example was copied, etc ad nauseum. i also note that kmail takes forever due to dirmngr. what should i do? and shouldn't patrick be adding these directories to aaa_whatever and the .conf file to dirmngr's package so it gets created, etc, similar to samba? [03:56] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] well, seems like I would be better off using NIS, right? [03:57] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:57] although I may be missing some features I don't know about yet :D [03:58] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] hello [03:59] TwinReverb: if you feel that something is missing, send volkerdi an email about it [04:00] i did, i was only asking [04:00] so far as i can tell, i configured dirmngr as the man page said, created the directories, etc, and yet i could not get it to launch in daemon mode at all [04:00] For our purposes, Slackware does not use the deamon of dirmngr so it does not need these directories. But if it makes that package more useable by adding some directories, go ahead and submit it as a feature request [04:00] and i really need to go educate myself on what the heck dirmngr even is [04:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] ph (n=ph@67.159.26.22) joined ##slackware. [04:02] ph (n=ph@67.159.26.22) left irc: Client Quit [04:02] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:03] Anakin (i=jedi@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [04:03] i did the feature request for CONFIG_DEBUG_SCHEDSTATS (for powertop) and it was denied [04:03] (no big deal) [04:03] i was thinking about requesting usbcore in kernel with auto-suspend capability but oh well [04:03] bhodgins (n=root@64.223.231.203) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:04] i'm thinking that maybe usbcore autosuspend would break some machines [04:04] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:04] with all the space pat saved on the DVD, i'm surprised that /extra isn't more densely populated (but oh well) [04:05] Action: nix_chix0r meeps TwinReverb [04:05] maybe i need to try and get him addicted to freeciv [04:05] 8-) [04:05] apoca: aye, looks like NIS, sorry [04:05] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [04:05] TwinReverb: what the hell is dirmngr? [04:05] nix_chix0r: y0 [04:05] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [04:05] slackytude, that's what i said [04:06] all i know is that kmail lags about one minute when sending email while dirmngr eats CPU cycles at a seemingly random pattern [04:06] whaddup [04:06] it's supposed to be some sort of LDAP thing, whatever LDAP is (again, i'm ignorant, so i need to go figure it out) [04:06] usually killing dirmngr during the lag releases kmail to ask for my password so it can send (go figure) [04:07] hrm, google says its some sort of certificate manager [04:07] bbl [04:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:08] eviljames: cloudy and windy [04:08] Action: slackytude was outside! [04:08] now in the dungeon again [04:08] Action: nix_chix0r hacks up a lung [04:09] O_o [04:11] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [04:11] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:11] hello again [04:11] nimrod: Hello! [04:11] whodat [04:12] :) [04:12] y0 [04:12] Action: Quiznos mourns purpleSmurf [04:12] i feel like talking jive one day at work to clients [04:12] kthxbai. [04:12] april fools day maybe [04:14] ok; using tcp_wrapers host_{allow,deny} here; vsftp is running from inetd; i can send ftp connect to named host, passes tcpwrappers but vsftpd refuses service. huh? [04:14] i had problem with X lately. after i install slackbuild-packages, i can't get into x again. think i should stay away from slackbuild maybe? [04:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [04:15] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:15] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:16] nimrod X -configure [04:17] nimrod: uh? [04:17] nimrod: which slackbuild? what did you do? [04:17] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] first i installed sbopkg ...then i installed exiv2, and then i installed Gwenview, and after that i couldn't get into X [04:18] what errors in x.log? [04:19] i must find out [04:19] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:19] nimrod: that shouldnt happen [04:19] nimrod: either you made some major bubu or its unrelated [04:19] nimrod: anyway, Im with Quiznos, paste xorg.log [04:20] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [04:20] ok, slackytude. I skipped installing nvidia-drivers this time i installed 12.2 again [04:20] links -g should work on console [04:20] nimrod: aha [04:20] nimrod: so fresh install but no nvidia drivers? [04:21] nimrod: try X -configure then or install them [04:21] yes, i just did xorgconfig, slackytude [04:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [04:22] i'm pleased without nvidia. i haven't had any login problems this time. but i don't dare to install slackbuild again [04:22] slackbuilds are safe [04:23] ok [04:23] they are looked at, polished, worked on and sprinkled with fairy dust befor they reach you [04:23] way better than any other source [04:23] phunkedelik (n=phunkede@208-99-140-144-dynamic427-dsl.ucc-net.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:23] ok, slackytude..then i would try to install a program again [04:23] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:25] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:26] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:26] i just found this, its totally awesome! http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/ [04:27] :O [04:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:27] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [04:28] that is so gnarly [04:28] How can I make my opened windows appear in taskbar? I'm using KDE, Slackware 12.2. [04:29] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [04:29] i was checking the errorlog [04:29] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:29] lol, dust [04:30] forget fairy dust start wrapping slackbuilds in the bacon log [04:30] mmm [04:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:31] cookd eggs bacon, sausage, bread bed, black pepper, crushed red pepper, italian seasoning [04:31] in one pot; to one bowl. [04:31] oh and picante sauce [04:31] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Client Quit [04:32] ok; using tcp_wrapers host_{allow,deny} here; vsftp is running from inetd; i can send ftp connect to named host, passes tcpwrappers but vsftpd refuses service. idears? [04:32] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [04:34] is it unwise to untar a tar.gz as root? [04:34] no [04:34] ok [04:34] Hey, guys, when I minimize any of my windows (or applications for that matter) it does not appear in taskbar, it just gone, and when I try to open it again, it has a <3> number in titlebar of the window. I don't know what to do :( [04:34] unless tar is told to run a script; but unlikely. [04:35] ok..what's the code for deleting a file in terminal? [04:35] rm name [04:36] f.eks 'rm name picture1.jpg' ? [04:36] rm {names}+ [04:36] rm awkward-porn [04:36] heh [04:37] what function has 'name* ? [04:37] no no; rm takes options and one or more filenames to delete [04:37] if filename has embedded spaces, then quote "" filename [04:38] or use tab-complete to put the filename on the command line [04:39] ok, with nothing inside the quotes? [04:39] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [04:39] hi can anyone here tell me why my firefox crashes all the time? [04:39] bash's tab-complete is like irc client's [04:39] ok [04:39] (firefox-bin:20157): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [04:39] i would try that [04:40] everytime i have tons of tabs opened, these are the errors i get [04:40] y0 missyjane [04:40] nimrod if you use tab-comp, dont begin with quote [04:40] ok, Quiznos [04:40] missyjane: #firefox ? [04:40] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:40] nobodys in there [04:41] oh [04:41] i was in there for the past week [04:41] useless channel [04:41] Quiznos: umm, why? [04:41] try opera :P [04:41] why what? [04:41] seriously, tho, no clue [04:42] how do i delete a directory then? [04:42] rmdir dirname [04:42] if empty [04:42] it's not empty [04:43] cd into dir, rm all the files; cd ..; rmdir dirname [04:43] slackytude, bleh, i guess youre right... [04:43] my only problem with opera is it can thandle a lot of tabs [04:43] (all, pls dont say -rf, he's a noob) [04:43] im told in #opera that its dependent on my ram [04:43] i usually have over 100 or so tabs opened [04:43] missyjane true [04:43] gotta have the ram to be that busy [04:44] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:44] missyjane sessions are your friend to partition your tab lists [04:45] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.74) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:45] partition my tab list? what do you mean? [04:46] into relevent/related groups and File/Sessions/Save [04:46] brb [04:46] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [04:47] missyjane: huh? how many is many for you? performs better than FF in my experience [04:48] 100 tabs open? [04:48] well like i said i often have more than 100 tabs opened [04:48] whatcha doing [04:48] huh? [04:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:49] with 100 tabs [04:49] that's a LOT of porn. [04:49] heh [04:49] lol [04:49] what kind of pr0n does a crazy goil look at? [04:49] but doesnt suprise me that FF cant handle that [04:49] :) [04:50] poor use of real files and not enuf swap [04:50] sme with opera [04:50] same [04:50] quasar, lol no i dont watch porn [04:50] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [04:50] you make it! :) [04:50] lol [04:50] no [04:50] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [04:51] she doth protest too much? [04:51] antiwire is a fed :) [04:51] lol [04:51] missyjane: oh, so your massive collection of the "rare" stuff from 4chan that you told me about was a lie? .. now I'm.. not talking to you anymore :( [04:51] what is this 4chan? [04:51] i got this: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Windows parameter) 3 [04:52] quasar, lol sigh [04:52] give it back [04:52] nimrod: not important [04:53] heh that reminds me [04:53] someone in #windows was asking for a good server [04:53] he wanted to host self made pron. he went with ubuntu [04:54] very funny [04:54] [golf clap] [04:54] missyjane: 100+ tabs, huh? [04:54] so x is functioning good then :) [04:54] yea [04:55] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:56] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/10/usaa_iphone_check_deposit/ <--- Deposit your check by taking a picture of it with your iPhone [04:57] wow [04:58] that's awesome [04:58] Action: dchmelik is trying to uplad to http://slackwaregallery.org and it is not even getting to opening a file.... [04:58] alisonken1noc, yep [04:58] except.. iphone sucks [04:58] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:58] under testing with USAA (bank that caters to military) [04:58] getting rid of paper; next step in digital credit. [04:58] missyjane: must be a lotta stuff you're trying to read [04:58] cant even call it "money" [04:59] without substance. [04:59] money is an idea, a concept [04:59] just like "debt" [04:59] I think we should go back to the days of bartering [04:59] constitutionally, money is ONLY Gold and silver. [04:59] money is a specific type of barter - which some people take too seriously [04:59] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [04:59] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) joined ##slackware. [04:59] a constitutional dollar is a measure of weight. [05:00] used to be [05:00] well; it still is; never properly amended. [05:00] alisonken1noc, most of my stuff are self help related and lal.. well, related in one way or another [05:00] which is why gold and silver certificates are worth more now than when they were actually in circulation [05:00] they are pretty interesting [05:00] just removed from general circulation. [05:00] when i use sbopkg, is it safe to do it in X, or should i log out from X? [05:00] safe [05:00] but dont do x stuff in x [05:01] ok [05:01] nimrod: since sbopkg is for apps not part of slackware (which includes libs), it's safe [05:01] I use it all the time in [05:01] X [05:01] ok, i see [05:01] now i will try to install exiv2 [05:01] to clarify - "system libs" :) [05:02] quake 6.5mag in .jp [05:03] maybe not smart to install many packages at the same time [05:03] ? [05:03] as long as it's one at a time, it's usually ok [05:03] ok [05:04] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:04] thanks for the help. [05:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:04] wb TwinReverb [05:04] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [05:04] thanx [05:04] Quiznos, someone I know in Japan said something about it maybe an hour ago. [05:05] ccfreak2k, soon i will be someone in japan you know 8-) [05:05] But [05:05] I don't even know you in the first place. [05:06] hm... is it an error that sbokpkg-0.27.4.tar.gz (the "source" link on the site) isn't source at all, or am I misinterpreting the term "source" ? [05:06] doh, script [05:06] :P [05:07] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:08] i hate slowlaris so much! Anyone know how to tell sendmail on solaris that regardless of how high and mighty it thinks it is, the MX records have changed and it needs to flush its queue to a new mx? [05:08] even a -bv gives the wrong frigging host [05:09] heh [05:09] solaris or opensolaris [05:09] quasar: sbopkg is a no-source package since it's actually bash shell scripts [05:09] joannis (n=joannis@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [05:09] proper stupid SPARC Slowlaris 10 [05:09] oi [05:09] nifty [05:09] ccfreak2k kk [05:09] ccfreak2k, if you don't know me by nooooooooowwwww .... [05:09] gn [05:09] missyjane gn [05:09] when i Rsync in sbopkg, when it's finished, it freezes [05:10] gn Quiznos [05:10] TwinReverb: you end up a lot on noobfarm [05:10] lately [05:10] gone [05:10] Quiznos: night [05:10] slackytude, that could mean that i am a comical individual [05:10] lol [05:10] Action: slackytude nods [05:10] it could [05:10] y0 lf4 [05:10] TwinReverb: that could mean several things :) [05:10] so after reading about LDAP, i don't need it, so i removed it, and kmail seems to not be trying to find it, so i guess that's a good thing [05:10] alisonken1noc, true [05:10] hey slackytude :) [05:11] slackytude: you're also on there quite a lot [05:11] but let the record show that i have several times explained that, while i've used slackware for a long time, i am a family guy first, military member second, musician third, then fourth and last a slackware linux user [05:11] i'll never be 1337 [05:12] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [05:12] Action: lf4 < TwinReverb [05:12] http://www.newsweek.com/id/211017 What If G.I. Joe Were Gay? [05:12] and that's f1n3 \/\/17|-| /\/\3 [05:12] lf4: lies! [05:13] slackytude: yes I know... G.I. Joe cant be gay :) [05:13] lf4: you at work again? or am I confusing things [05:13] Action: lf4 *sigh* work again. [05:13] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. [05:14] slackytude, what if GI Joe were NOT gay? [05:14] 8-P [05:14] haha [05:14] well.. [05:14] time to close these [05:14] thanks [05:14] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [05:16] I dont care either way [05:17] slackytude, "dude, i've always wondered why navy guys have their name on their @$$" [05:17] TwinReverb: lol you would know. [05:18] TwinReverb: depends on if their in a submarine or not :) "200 sailors depart in a sub, 100 couples come back" is one of the standard jokes [05:18] my answer: so that they can find their @$$ when their body gets blown into about 10+ pieces [05:22] hmm, gay G.I. Joe, where have I seen that before... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atXIKI2XHj4 [05:22] dangit my flash is totally broken [05:22] TwinReverb: btw - it's not just the Navy guys that have their names there [05:23] alisonken1noc, who else? (other than you) [05:23] army and marines [05:23] Action: TwinReverb is glad to be air force [05:23] just depends on which uniform you're wearing [05:24] typically, work clothes (including cammies) has the name above the right-rear pocket as well [05:25] Action: TwinReverb can't download the iRack! [05:26] brb [05:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [05:26] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-82-178.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:30] srecko1 (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [05:30] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) left ##slackware. [05:30] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:30] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) joined ##slackware. [05:30] wb TwinReverb [05:31] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Leeds (n=richardc@n220246165128.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [05:36] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:36] thanx [05:39] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:39] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [05:40] valdur55 (n=valdur55@84-50-167-197-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [05:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [05:40] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-192327.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Hello. I want install Farsight2 for zenwalk (slackware) [05:44] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] Hello [05:47] greetings [05:47] I want install Farsigth2 for zenwalk (slackware) [05:47] I am using this guide: http://amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight [05:48] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [05:49] sorenp1 (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:50] Zenwalk is not Slackware valdur55 [05:51] Please ask the question in a Zenwalk forum [05:51] WHen i maked "./configure" and then "make" in folder: gst-plugins-bad 0.10.13. Then command "make" end: http://pastebin.be/20276 [05:52] But isn't zenwalk based slackware? [05:53] i think that zenwalk is walking its own path for a long time now [05:53] at one time it was - they've changed too much to really be called slackware-derived now [05:54] ok... [05:54] but what thad error means? [05:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:57] valdur55: asking questions on non-slackware-issues makes most people in here not care [05:58] ok... i think.. i need seach farsight2 or Amsn chat? [05:58] valdur55: you're better off asking such questions at the approriate place, like a mailing list, support forum, irc channel specific to the used distro [05:58] valdur55: that being said, it seems you miss libdvdread [05:59] ok... i will ask in amsn and farsight chat [05:59] Those channels are in same server :D [05:59] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:59] The IRC world is really nice! [06:00] valdur55: some channels are better then others. :) [06:00] yea:) [06:00] man. my upstairs neighbor is snoring so loud i can hear it through ceiling [06:00] this is bullshit [06:01] don't suppose anyone knows if there are any good GNOME builds I can install on slack64-current? I had gsb on my former slack32, and there's a gsb64-current, but I've no idea what state it's in... [06:01] antiwire: Hahaha take the broom :) [06:01] call the firemen [06:01] upyr[emacs] (n=user@194.9.231.203) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Has anyone used slackware on a touchscreen system? [06:03] What may be the problem here: http://pastebin.com/d7a6cb9d6 ? Is it zlib or wxWidgets? Compiling it on Slackware64-current. [06:03] lf4: What is the problem? [06:03] shik4nt4z4: make sure you let everyone know you are using slackware64 [06:04] antiwire: This time I did so. :-) [06:04] shik4nt4z4: No problem I was just thinking about a project(carputer) I had in mine. [06:04] s/mine/mind/ [06:05] lf4: Try google, I have saw some good links. [06:05] lf4: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/touchscreen-monitor-works-on-slackware-426200/ [06:06] what do you prefer, vicq (or is it micq,?) climm, or bitlbee? [06:07] dchmelik: CenterICQ [06:07] lf4: http://www.slackwarehelp.org/viewtopic.php?t=2555&f=7 [06:07] shik4nt4z4: lol thanks but I already have a screen picked out. I just was wondering if anyone used a touchscreen with slackware or not. :) its no big deal. [06:08] dchmelik: that question to the group? (irssi) [06:08] lf4: The second link has some how-to [06:08] shik4nt4z4: thanks [06:08] joannis (n=joannis@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) left irc: "leaving" [06:08] lf4: Welcome! [06:08] antiwire: Can you help me with my make.err log? [06:09] shik4nt4z4: All I can say is that kicad builds under slackware-current 32bit [06:10] shik4nt4z4: that's a good one - "Elo now supports these unmodified Linux versions: .... Slackware 6.2 ..." [06:10] antiwire: :-) Right. [06:10] Nick change: valdur55 -> valdur55-away [06:10] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:10] valdur55-away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [06:10] alisonken1noc: Well, I was just showing some examples from google. Google is our friend. [06:10] lol [06:11] lf4, so you do not use other IM in irssi [06:11] shik4nt4z4: I was just noting that some companies may want to verify the versions that they say they "support" :) [06:11] dchmelik: nope pidgin for (AIM, Y!, MSN, Gtalk) irssi for IRC [06:12] alisonken1noc: Maybe, maybe not. [06:12] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-192327.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [06:12] shik4nt4z4: look at the "Slacware version" again, and tell me "maybe not" with a straight face [06:12] shik4nt4z4: is it kicad that you are still working on? [06:13] antiwire: Yes. [06:13] I'll give you a hint - slackware version jumped from 3.5 to 7.0 many years ago [06:13] i just tried uploading to http://slackwaregallery.com/ , but it said 'error: impossible to move.' whatever, the pictures were under 2Mb.... [06:14] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left irc: "()" [06:14] alisonken1noc: Maybe chinese made their own Slackware 6.0. :-) They tend often to copy. [06:15] they tend to copy, but it says "... unmodified Linux versions ...." :) [06:15] :-) [06:16] lf4: I have a little project on my TODO to create a Slackware image for a touchscreen device, a Webdt 366 [06:16] http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT8663689368.html [06:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.14) joined ##slackware. [06:16] alisonken1noc: Chinese are very inventive people. [06:17] no doubt [06:17] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [06:18] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [06:18] alisonken1noc: Have you seen chinese Ferrari? [06:18] alienBOB: nice [06:18] shik4nt4z4: no [06:18] alienBOB: Cool :) this project I am doing would use the Xenarc MDT-X7000. [06:18] Here you can see an article: http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/05/fake-chinese-ferrari.html [06:19] InspectorWho (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.42) joined ##slackware. [06:20] alisonken1noc: http://www.pandapassport.com/technology/lamborghini-ferrari-mashup/ [06:21] interesting - especially the 3seat option [06:21] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:22] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left irc: "()" [06:23] looks more like a lambo that got thrown up on by a ferrari [06:24] who admins/powns SlackwareGallery? [06:24] man, listening in on #windows when nobody is around to help is sort of depressing [06:24] Action: lf4 always liked the three seat idea the McLaren F1 came out with. :) [06:24] reminds me why I switched [06:25] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:25] slackytude: lol you idel in #windows? [06:25] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.14) left irc: Operation timed out [06:26] lf4: yes, and windows-server as well. altho I not only idle, I help / ask questions on occasion as well [06:26] slackytude: Oh thats good :) [06:26] Action: slackytude shrugs [06:26] I need windows help often enough [06:26] slackytude: lol doesn't everyone :P [06:27] Action: slackytude nods [06:27] sadly [06:27] I need windows help all of the time - my windows at the house get dirty [06:27] heh [06:28] you might like #slackbuilds or #friendly-coders more than #windows [06:29] dchmelik: ah, its fun. and when Im not at work, Im in #slackbuilds as well [06:29] that is, when Im on my own machine at work [06:30] InspectorWho (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.42) left irc: [06:30] I got moved to a different machine and use irssi and ssh and only two or three channeös [06:30] lol dchmelik #friendly-coders topic just lists other channels? [06:30] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.42) joined ##slackware. [06:31] lf4, it does not matter, you can talk about any programming there [06:31] Leeds (n=richardc@n220246165128.netvigator.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:31] I need to limit my irc channels [06:31] dchmelik: ok :) just wanted to check and make sure that they did not list the other chan's as in if its that topic go there. [06:31] slackytude: why? [06:32] lf4: I can spend hours on irc as it is [06:32] wunsh (n=wunsh@e179149071.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:32] lf4: that will only get worse [06:32] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [06:32] slackytude: Haha I know what you mean. Look at all the channels I'm in. :P [06:32] just slackware? [06:33] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:33] slackytude: no 8 i think.... it changes from day to day but I have a set few I am always in. [06:33] lf4: well, if I was on graveyard shit, Id be in a lot of channels ^-^ [06:33] i have about 50 on my list [06:33] lf4: different networks then [06:34] slackytude: haha thsi is even before working here. :P i know its sad. [06:34] heh [06:34] dchmelik: 50? [06:34] on a list that i use... i am on about 12 at once [06:34] slackytude: 3 servers, but freenode i'm in 8 chans on average. [06:34] dchmelik: wow thats crazy [06:35] that reminds me, I wanted to join the german pirate party channel [06:35] j #piratenpartei [06:35] eh [06:35] fail [06:35] haha slackytude [06:36] about 1/2 my channels are computer science-related... but i have many interests [06:36] eh, alll my channels are computer related ;_; [06:37] i know its sad [06:37] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [06:37] slackytude: same here... lol I dont think of IRC as other topics besides computers. [06:38] Action: slackytude nods [06:39] excellent, my DVD is being made [06:39] that took a long time to rsync [06:40] any way to jump from one window by number in irssi? or just ctrl+ n or ctrl+p [06:41] slackytude: alt+left or rigth [06:41] s/rigth/right/ [06:41] no more x-problems without nvidia :) [06:41] yeah, but what if Im in 2 and want to jump to 6, do I have to walk all the way? [06:42] slacjytude, also [06:42] slackytude: hold alt and tap right 4 times ;) [06:42] no press, alt-6 [06:42] dchmelik: what about numbers<10? [06:42] alt-6 has no effect [06:42] it worked last time i tried [06:43] maybe it is CTRL [06:43] no effect either [06:43] slackytude: yes holding alt+# works [06:43] I tried the easy stuff [06:43] hrm [06:43] maybe its xterm or screen [06:43] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [06:43] I get this by pressing alt-6: ¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶ [06:43] screen shouldn't effect it but maybe xterm [06:44] *sigh* [06:45] it worked for me in konsole [06:45] konsole != xterm [06:45] I'll switch computers soon, Ill try then [06:46] right now, Im backing up that POS comp I have to sit. It was on IE6 and SP 2, so I started to update [06:46] then I failed the WGA thingy [06:46] looks like someone put a pirated key in [06:47] someone should join the Apple channel and say 'Slackintosh,' because the channel says 'no hackintosh.' [06:47] so, boss told me to wipe it and start clean [06:47] anyway, afk for a moment [06:48] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: "Leaving" [06:48] Funny question: "Do eggs pee?" [06:48] many cool wallpapers in slackware 12.2 [06:49] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:49] nimrod, where? [06:50] KDE? [06:50] yes [06:50] oh, i use a slideshow of art pictures i have collected [06:50] vadim (i=0@188.128.90.11) left irc: Client Quit [06:51] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:51] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:51] ok [06:52] i'm from norway, (only to clean up misunderstandings...(not so good in english)) [06:53] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-82-178.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [06:55] Slackware world dominance! [06:55] i like the phrases when i log on in the terminal :) [06:57] i want to replace most of them with some others [06:57] but i like some of the ones that are there [06:58] yes, they are funny, some of them [06:59] crap; #vsftpd is asleep [06:59] yes, but i would rather have Delphic Maxims, Pythagorean Verses, Sentences of Sextus, Psalms, Proverbs, etc. [06:59] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:00] Whats wrong Quiznos? [07:00] Is anyone running (and happy with) a web-based code review system? [07:00] How can I change default runlevel for the non-root user on slackware? Do I have to chmod a+x /usr/bin/init or something? [07:00] lf4 vs refuses to serve [07:00] lf4 or "no service available" [07:01] sh0ne: runlevel is not a user-thing [07:01] Quiznos: Was it working before? [07:01] no; but [07:02] i finally got a msg from vs via ftp port; missing file prevented start; stoopit; so i touched the path. lo and behold, working [07:03] Quiznos: lol so its working now? [07:03] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016400.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:03] barely [07:03] no files showing yet tho [07:03] Zordrak: yes, I know, but when I tried to init 3 (text-mode) as a regular user, it says command not found. [07:03] lots of syslog from vs [07:03] Specify the correct dir? Do you have anon login or user based? [07:04] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:04] FireFly trying both [07:04] lol fail [07:04] oops [07:05] sh0ne: init is an su password - it's in /sbin [07:05] sh0ne: *default* runlevel is read out of /etc/init.d/ [07:05] sh0ne: *default* runlevel is read out of /etc/inittab [07:05] lf4 what var gets path to dir of files to serve? [07:06] the line you want in /etc/inittab is : id:4:initdefault: <---- change the 4 to 3 to get runlevel 3 on reboot [07:06] sh0ne use telinit to change runlevel [07:06] Zordrak, alisonken1noc: Thank you very much, I'll look at it.. [07:06] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:06] and do what alisonken1noc says [07:07] Quiznos: OK, I'll try that for sure, thanx [07:07] sh0ne: if you want to change runlevels while the system is still up, you have to su to root/login as root, then you can run 'telinit ' [07:07] yw [07:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Agiofws hihi [07:08] Quiznos: anon_root=/foo/bar/ [07:08] ty [07:09] Quiznos: yw [07:09] hello ppl [07:09] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:09] lf4 Bingo! [07:10] yay! ftp is runnin [07:10] :) nice Quiznos [07:11] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [07:11] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [07:13] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.66.157) joined ##slackware. [07:14] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:16] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Action: init[1] o/ waves to slackers [07:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Action: lf4 waves to InspectorCluseau [07:24] awe tab fail! [07:24] hey init[1] [07:25] lf4: yo lf4 , Life force 4 [07:25] Nick change: init[1] -> lt4 [07:26] init[1]: haha [07:26] aka life torque force [07:26] torque? [07:26] force - torque [07:26] nvm , :/ [07:26] Oh good point haha i did not link that. [07:26] Nick change: lt4 -> init[1] [07:26] wow thats weird to see lt4 [07:26] smed (n=smed@ool-45730036.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:27] smed (n=smed@ool-45730036.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] whats new lf4, no college today? [07:27] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [07:27] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-167-52.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:27] init[1]: my next semester starts in Jan. I'm just at work right now. [07:28] lf4: aa, long time to go .., [07:28] 6mon off? wow [07:28] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Success [07:29] whats wrong if my sshd says "sshd: error: Could not get shadow information for user", but the login actually works? [07:30] it's a nis environment [07:31] apoca: may be it can't read the /etc/shadow file [07:32] Shouldn't it read the shadow-information from NIS? [07:33] apoca: depends on nsswitch.conf [07:34] Zordrak: I have "passwd: files nis" in there [07:34] I tried adding "shadow: files nis" but seems to have no effect [07:34] then thats not nis [07:34] you also have to put "+:::::" in /etc/passwd as the last line last time I checked [07:34] Action: Zordrak hates nis [07:34] same with groups if you use nis group passwords [07:34] ldap is even worse, because slackware lacks pam ;-) [07:35] (format for the number of colons depends on which file you're updating - passwd or group) [07:35] apoca: id rather have nothing than pam [07:36] this is one of my 2 favourite channels on all of IRC [07:37] dchmelik: why that? [07:37] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@mail.jjlane.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:37] dchmelik: ##slackware = 127.0.0.1 [07:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-202-127.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:38] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [07:38] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left ##slackware. [07:39] How to add an user to sudoers? [07:39] apoca, because Slackware is the OS... what do you mean, lf4? [07:39] adeodatus: vi /etc/sudoers [07:40] Thanks, Zordrak God bless you!! [07:40] adeodatus: "visudo" and follow the promps as far as format [07:40] Zordrak: use visudo so syntax is checked - otherwise bad things can happen [07:41] alisonken1noc: meh.. my eyes will do fine :) [07:41] Zordrak: but if {s}he has to ask - then his/her eyes may not work the same :) [07:41] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [07:41] then {s}he will learn :) [07:42] learning through failing [07:42] even I make mistakes - that's why we create scripts :) [07:42] nice one ;) [07:42] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:42] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:42] to fail is to learn [07:42] to fail and not learn is darwinism [07:43] true - but I would rather use checks and balances on my system wherever I can to reduce failure to simple things [07:43] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [07:44] that nice rsync-slack-current script exited before it made the DVD because i did not configure it right [07:44] tiny !!! [07:45] but is slamd64-compat meant to be in slackware64-current? [07:45] no [07:45] i meant for that script... like should i put it in that dir [07:45] Quiznos: sup sup [07:45] in slamd64/slackware64-current/ there are packages which are meant for slackware64-current though [07:45] tiny nm, how's by you? [07:45] (but slightly out of date) [07:46] tiny nm=not much [07:46] Quiznos: fixing a broken Git repo [07:46] tiny ah [07:46] not fun at all :D [07:46] nods [07:47] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:48] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [07:49] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] thanks, i guess i should just fix and run the script again since i have it all downloaded [07:49] Wiren (i=Wiren@crb44-1-82-67-126-56.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:50] dchmelik: yes. rsync will not need to recopy [07:50] dchmelik: not really - it's still not part of slackware yet [07:50] (slamd64 compat stuff) [07:51] fred: the script I gave dchmelik uses the slackware64 compat library directory for rsync [07:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.131.131) joined ##slackware. [07:52] so it does not put that on the DVD? Maybe i will put them on anyway.... [07:52] dchmelik: no - it just rsyncs the slackware64 compat library to local drive so you have the option of installing later [07:53] o_leo_o (n=leo@116.233.155.4) joined ##slackware. [07:53] I kept it that way so the slackware64 dvd would match the final slackware64 dvd [07:54] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-b5b166e68ffeedf1) left irc: [07:55] dchmelik: besides, rsync will _sync_ the slackware64 directory locally, so anything you do to the slackware64 directory on your computer will get deleted by rsync [07:56] ffs.. how many more apache releases? [07:56] till they get it right [07:56] that would be a pre-release thing [07:56] or did no-one tell them? [07:57] duno [07:57] i use thttp [07:57] just a pita cause when i upgrade apache i have to go and fix my symlinks.. cause i use /srv/httpd but pat still doesnt [07:58] umm /src/httpd is a symlink to /var/www, for a long time now [07:58] s/src/srv/ [07:59] have tried to persuade him.. but he's just not really bothered. He wants a "This addresses x issue" before fixing something that isnt broke [07:59] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:59] pprkut: i know.. but i mod it to put the dir in /srv and then symlink back from /var/www and /srv/www [07:59] ah, so the other way around [08:00] *nod* [08:00] i should not have asked so many questions alisonken1noc... it is a good script... i am more familiar with it now [08:00] service monitor daemon [08:00] dchmelik: np - I probably didn't document it very well since it made sense to me :) [08:00] pprkut: more than FHS compliance, i guess i do it cause apache moved [08:00] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [08:00] pprkut: apaches config uses /srv/httpd so, thats really where i wanna put it [08:01] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.253) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Zordrak: well, I can understand Pat. I wouldn't see any special reason to switch either [08:01] i just was not sure why slamd64-compat was in the script... i knew about what rsync does.... [08:01] aye.. like i said i tried with him.. but he's made his decision and i accept that [08:01] i have not seen /var/www [08:02] maybe one day [08:02] dchmelik: I still use a couple of 32 bit programs, so figured might as well make it easier to use them if I needed to [08:03] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-37.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:03] dchmelik: might be part of the apache package - have to check aaa_base and see if it's in there [08:04] yeah... it must be for a very new version, because my 12.2-based version is not at /var/www i think [08:04] ok - not part of aaa_base, so probably part of the httpd package [08:04] I'm running slamd64 and /var/www is part of httpd package [08:04] 12.2 [08:05] you would only see it if you installed the slackware httpd package [08:07] How to configure mutt on slackware? Any suggestion will be welcome. [08:07] adeodatus: ~/.muttrc [08:08] Do I need to make this file ? [08:09] adeodatus: man mutt [08:10] alisonken1noc, you are right--i just forgot because there are two dirs in /srv and it is too much to recall [08:10] server monitor daemon is not part of slackware, so it's easy to forget [08:11] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [08:11] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:11] :O [08:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-52.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:14] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [08:17] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. 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[08:43] man this is so frustrating. neither slackware nor slackware64 can burn dvds, not in k3b, not in growisofs. both devices are chmod o+rwx and burning as root fails during erase (dvd+rw blank) [08:44] ah wait, DriveReadySeekError [08:44] i know how to fix that [08:45] :) glad we could help TwinReverb [08:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:49] Anakin (i=jedi@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [08:50] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.253) joined ##slackware. [08:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:52] hda: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [08:52] actually the option doesn't seem to exist in the kernel any more [08:52] Action: TwinReverb re-checks [08:53] nope, don't see it any more [08:53] Action: TwinReverb is on slackware [08:53] er 13.0-rc2 (32 bit) [08:54] what option is that? [08:57] it was one of the bugfixes in the ATA section [08:57] but i don't see it any more [08:57] Action: TwinReverb read all the help and grepped the documentation [08:57] Action: TwinReverb even loaded packet writing module but that did no good [08:58] doesn't that indicate a bad disk? [08:58] a brand new dvd+rw blank? [08:58] i can try another but how the heck does that happen? [09:02] manufacturing defect? happens sometimes [09:02] plus, if it's the first time the dvd was used, it may give that error also [09:02] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [09:03] nope, same exact error [09:03] so some how i'm locked out of burning a dvd on both slackware 13.0rc2 and slackware64 13.0rc2 [09:04] is there still the audio/cd group issues ? [09:06] nope [09:08] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:11] good night... well good morning, but i will be back this evening [09:12] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [09:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [09:19] can't wait <3 [09:20] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016400.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:21] lol [09:21] TwinReverb: slow the speed down or something [09:22] on a blank command, speed is not the problem I don't think [09:22] ooh, I didn't see the blank part [09:22] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:22] monstro (n=monstro@201-92-43-225.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:22] is possible run pidgin in background and recieve messages in msn account [09:24] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-177-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] thrice`, tried that, the drive and media supports 4x but both that and 2x fail [09:25] valdur55 (n=valdur55@84-50-167-197-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:25] hello. I installed farsight 2 and then i complied Amsn... when i open amns and i go to Audio and Video assistant to check farsigth2 comes those errors : http://pastebin.be/20279 [09:26] valdur55: looks like you're missing some gstreamer plugins [09:27] valdur55: still on zenwalk? ;) [09:27] yea [09:27] actually, missing some libraries [09:28] i use gst-plugins-bad-0.10.13 [09:29] looks like someone linked against libdvdread, which you don't have installed [09:29] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:29] someone = some crappy "compatable" package you installed [09:29] i installed libdvdread-0.9.7 [09:30] I guess you'll need 4.1.3 [09:30] oh... ok.. [09:30] where can i donwload? [09:30] your distro's repository would be my first try [09:33] :( . In repo isnt ... there is vobcopy 1.1.2 and libvdnav 4.1.3 and those are installed [09:33] they may not have the header files needed for the source [09:34] aww [09:34] i fount libdvdread 4.1.3 on snapshot rep [09:34] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [09:35] valdur55: are you using slackware? [09:36] zenwalk :D [09:37] join #zenwalk then. [09:37] i joined [09:38] i installed libdvdread and libdvdcss [09:38] and i reopened amsn [09:38] again same eroor [09:38] error* [09:38] well tell them. [09:38] just telled :D [09:39] valdur55: you got no help with zenwalk earlier.. you'll get none now [09:39] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE716F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:39] hows the email server Zordrak? [09:40] valdur55: this is what you get for installing random packages [09:40] heh [09:40] agentc0re: BEAUTIFUL! Thanks :) [09:40] alt+# works in putty [09:41] agentc0re: Not one single problem reported!! [09:41] Zordrak: nice dude! [09:41] :( [09:41] it's always a relief when shit works correctly. [09:41] ever since my PDC died... i've been having tons of issues across the board... i wish they'd all just stop now. [09:42] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) joined ##slackware. [09:42] agentc0re: yeah.. thats a worry for me.. the pdc is the weak point of the whole network [09:43] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [09:43] well i had a bdc.... but it's always had some issues. so i took and old 2000 server i had and made that a pdc by seizing the FSMO roles. [09:44] but that server is just all sorts of screwed and i probably should had done a fresh install but because the bdc wasn't behaving correctly i needed to implement something quickly [09:44] since then it's just been a fight for FRS to work and replication...sysvol/netshare issues.. [09:45] you name it.. it probably is happening. [09:45] aye [09:45] i just want my 2008 :P [09:45] i wanna start over.. [09:45] my bdc is shafted, but i cant crack it till some super-legacy shit is moved off it [09:46] damn... i need download and install same versions what is listsed in quide ? [09:46] valdur55: /part [09:47] yea :D i know... then i leave from channel ;) [09:47] valdur55: i'm not trying to trick you. [09:48] is slackware better to zenwalk? [09:48] i *think* that was the idea.. [09:48] valdur55: anyone would be more than happy to point you in the right direction if you were using slackware. [09:48] valdur55: but because you aren't using it, you should leave the channel as this is a support channel for slackware and no zenwalk. [09:49] s/no/not [09:49] ok. i will install slackware... [09:49] Zordrak: Oh and on top of all my work problems, my home PC motherboard died on saturday. [09:49] aww [09:49] so i'm suck using my netbook. [09:49] sucky [09:49] freudian.. [09:50] valdur55: do what you please. i'm not telling you to do that either. you should use whatever is easiest for you. [09:50] Zordrak: lol [09:50] s/suck/stuck... just missing the t :P [09:50] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-045-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] monstro (n=monstro@201-92-43-225.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:58] Ok i will download and install slackware. [09:58] but how i can install? [09:58] i want boot from usb flash disk [09:59] i have 2GB flash disk. [09:59] Or i should write slackware DVD? [09:59] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [10:00] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [10:03] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) left irc: Success [10:05] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Nick change: hackedhe1d -> hackedhead [10:13] Damn... i have only one error left. [10:13] I fix this ATM [10:16] great, we are excited for you [10:16] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:17] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [10:18] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:18] o_leo_o (n=leo@116.233.155.4) left irc: Success [10:19] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:19] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:21] valdur55 (n=valdur55@84-50-167-197-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:21] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:25] valdur55 (n=valdur55@84-50-167-197-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [10:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [10:37] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:37] Ok... now i think.. i will install slackware now. [10:38] What desktop slackware use? [10:38] valdur55 i will to, tonight. [10:38] kde valdur55 [10:38] default? [10:38] what version? [10:38] yes [10:38] chan change it? [10:38] 3.5 [10:38] :D [10:38] i think. [10:38] ok i will test [10:39] i haven't lose anything [10:39] valdur55 i will install too.. [10:39] but [10:39] my cdrom burn :\ [10:40] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] i use network install [10:41] ok bb [10:41] valdur55 (n=valdur55@84-50-167-197-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] does anyone else here have problems watching fullscreen flash videos using adobeflash10? [10:42] they always seem to slow down and/or skip frames. [10:42] zaltekk: crashes for me in FF if hardware accel is enabled [10:43] is ok in konqueror [10:43] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [10:43] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) joined ##slackware. [10:43] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] Zordrak: well...on my old desktop pc i can watch them in fullscreen in firefox, but it has the before-mentioned problem. [10:43] if i try it on my laptop, the fullscreen button causes firefox to deadlock [10:44] and on the laptop i am unable to uncheck hardware accel. [10:46] i was wondering if there is an easy way to get the location of the streaming video and download it so that i can use xine or vlc to play the video [10:48] it depends on the provider and the format [10:48] most importantly hulu [10:48] which is streamed with the commercials in between and such... [10:48] lagann_ (i=agon@71.233.170.212) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] try googling for hulu downloaders [10:49] mancha: seems like a bunch of random junk [10:57] Would the package series A,AP,D,F,K,N,Y be a safe guess for a DNS/DHCP/PXE server with out running in to issues? [10:57] LF4: looks good [10:57] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.40) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [10:58] LF4: uh, L [10:58] !Y [10:58] yeah, who can live without rot13 [10:59] LF4: but if you need something minimalistic try slax or sumething [10:59] EW [11:00] slackware is the king of minimalist [11:00] Zordrak thats if I get frustrated and want to just mess around. [11:00] why would you suggest elsewise? [11:00] jub pna yvir jvgubhg ebg guvegrra [11:00] because [11:00] slackytude: I figured I would mess around with this system trying to follow alienBOB's PXE server document. :) [11:00] haha mancha [11:02] Action: LF4 going to select the packages with in the series now... bbl [11:03] i would remove F too, mostly outdated from what i can tell [11:03] you might be able to live without D [11:06] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:08] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:10] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [11:13] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [11:13] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.15.73) joined ##slackware. [11:14] bedtime [11:14] (or at least head home time) [11:15] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@66.33.206.8) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:15] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.15.73) left ##slackware. [11:17] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [11:17] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [11:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:23] i've been searching for about an hour. how do i disable compositing in -current ? [11:24] its xorg.conf but i cant find anything about the format [11:24] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-172-65.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:24] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-172-65.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8971F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] spook, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Composite [11:28] Meijito (i=Meijito@unaffiliated/meijito) joined ##slackware. [11:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [11:31] Meijito (i=Meijito@unaffiliated/meijito) left ##slackware. [11:31] not exactly helpful [11:32] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-184-8.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] spook: in KDE$? [11:35] KDE4 that is [11:36] Use Shift-Alt-F12 to disable/enable compositing in KDE4 [11:37] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:37] slackid (n=willysr@125.163.251.150) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] but to have it disabled by default? [11:38] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:39] most people have problems enabling it.. [11:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:41] enabling wha? >.> [11:42] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:42] just got in to the office [11:43] trying to disable compositing by default [11:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [11:45] that's why xorg.conf is still useful... [11:45] Option Composite Disabled [11:45] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-25.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] does it need a section? [11:46] it needs to be in the card section [11:46] driver? [11:46] device [11:47] Option Composite "false" might actually be better (looking at my xorg.conf again) [11:47] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.205) joined ##slackware. [11:48] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [11:48] WTF i did wrong [11:48] http://www.pastebin.ca/1525188 <--- here's what i use spook [11:48] Tirili (n=opera@dslb-088-070-045-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:48] wintery: "it" [11:48] wintery: something very big [11:49] is it a kernel issue? [11:49] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [11:50] time to ask my uncle, G.Oogle [11:50] smoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) joined ##slackware. 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[12:35] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:36] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:37] Nick change: |alisonken1churc -> alisonken1church [12:39] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:39] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:45] giuppy (n=giuppy@host159-38-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:46] after the slack's upgrade KDE effects stopped. testing with glxgears this msg return: GLUT: Fatal Error in glxgears: failed to create OpenGL rendering context. [12:46] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:46] Going to -current from 12? [12:46] you failed to install new libraries [12:47] i was using current already, just upgrade to new updates [12:47] did you install glut? :) [12:47] yes, it was working before last update [12:48] I was up to date from Aug 03 [12:50] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [12:50] I did yesterday an "upgradepkg --install-new $i/*.t*z" to upgrade 6 and 7 day updates [12:50] mm, do you use nvidia's crap-drivers? [12:50] hey [12:50] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.253) left irc: "Leaving" [12:50] i am using nvidia driver [12:50] did you reinstall it after updating mesa + overwriting the glx library? [12:51] no, do I need reinstall? [12:51] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.205) left irc: Connection timed out [12:51] sheesh, don't you use slackbuilds? pprkut even wrote a nice script to do this for you [12:52] i'll return to my issue [12:52] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [12:53] So i have a limit on my exchange server. 100 MB per inbox. Just had a user ignore the very annoying message telling him that he can't send/receive emails for over TWO months. And when i say very annoying, i mean... it sends it almost ever minute notifying the user to delete email!! [12:53] two months... he couldn't even see his legit email because of them. [12:54] lol [12:54] Best thing is, he didn't tell me about it. He just asked me to setup his email on a new pc. [12:54] 2 NICs atm ,i have one integrated 1gb eth controller and one wireless controller using qth5k module, iwlist return the list of the networks in range but i cannot connect to an ap on that slack [12:54] he had over 6,000 emails of these messages alone! [12:54] agentc0re, that's 'cause he's trying to show that he's not an idiot... [12:54] no problems with that on live cd [12:54] ffs [12:54] which he is... but trying to keep it secret always makes it worse lol [12:55] any ideas? [12:55] Necos: You know he has a very heavy Ghana accent. I couldn't understand him even if he admitted to it. [12:55] He's also the only Doc to ever receive a virus... To which he's received two from the same Ghana website! [12:56] wintery: Eh? whats going on? [12:56] scroll a bit up [12:56] wintery: k [12:57] G.Oogle told me that that it's an udev issue [12:58] What is the problem? Is your nic not showing up because of that error? when do you get that error? [12:58] no no [12:58] agentc0re, lol [12:58] when i'm doing ifconfig eth0 or wlana up [12:59] it goes up [12:59] shows that err [12:59] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7591E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] why are you running ifconfig manually? [12:59] and im unable to connect to an ap [12:59] wintery: And i think i read something about you also changing some kernel options or maybe you upgraded to a new one. is that true? [13:00] greetings [13:00] wicd? [13:00] wintery: Is the wire plugged in? [13:00] well i'm using 2.6.28.9-ice [13:00] -ice? [13:00] :D [13:00] :P [13:00] reproduce it with, gee, I don't know, SLACKWARE KERNELS [13:01] wtf is -ice? :P [13:01] it's just my custom kernel [13:01] its a cool kernel [13:01] does slack's do the same thing? [13:01] maybe it's too cool to operate correctly. [13:01] the cooler you are, the less likely to work [13:01] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:01] slackytude: This is correct. [13:02] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [13:02] thrice: i'm not using the originql one, but it was fscking ok until i changed mac of the wireless NIC [13:02] smoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] how about -70DEG ? ;) [13:03] wintery: try changing it back? [13:03] sigh, why do people omit such relevant details [13:03] i did it [13:03] :'(( [13:03] agentc0re|work, you work? [13:03] if yes, why? [13:03] with the ice corp. vendor id xD [13:03] actually, nvm [13:04] slackytude: Not anymore... I just solved all my DC problems as 2 minutes ago. [13:04] gratz [13:04] nooone will help? [13:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:04] boot a slackware kernel and confirm that it doesn't work there too; you should rule out your custom kernel [13:05] wintery: i'd even go for a good ole reboot. [13:05] how do i set default soundcard? i did it yesterday, but i've forgotten it... [13:05] wintery: i also agree with thrice` [13:05] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:06] i,ll not boot slackwares original kernel wont support official ati drivers without recompiling it [13:06] ok, if you don't take our advise, don't ask for help [13:06] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.91.120) joined ##slackware. [13:06] ok, reinstalled nvidia driver and the kde return to work [13:06] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.31) joined ##slackware. [13:06] good :) [13:07] powtrix: mesa provides the libGL stuff, but nvidia provides its own; so, when you updated mesa, you over-wrote nvidia's extensions, and it got upset [13:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.42) left irc: [13:07] hm [13:08] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.22) joined ##slackware. [13:09] joannis (n=joannis@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) left irc: "leaving" [13:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:09] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] heh [13:14] tozefs (n=_tozefs_@65-78-109-129.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware ("leave"). [13:14] how do i set the default soundcard in slackware 12.2? [13:14] nimrod: asound.conf ? [13:15] alsaconf doesn't find my card when i plug in my webcam [13:15] asound.conf [13:15] ok [13:17] which adventure clone is it that you have to set it to binary mode lest your items get turned to goo [13:18] spook: world of goo? [13:18] Arenics (n=Administ@189.105.234.83) joined ##slackware. [13:18] 'asound.conf' only gives me "command not found" [13:19] what ships with the second slackware disc ? [13:19] eviljames: no, i think it might be zork [13:19] Arenics: x. xap [13:19] i think kde is on third disk now [13:19] spook: 4 ? [13:20] nimrod: thats..obviously a config file [13:20] Not a command [13:20] basicly I only at least 2 disc to have a desktop system right ? [13:20] spook: and with 4, 5 and 6 ? [13:20] kde and source [13:20] I only need* [13:20] should i write : nano> asound.conf ? [13:21] Arenics, two disc gives you X, third adds KDE [13:21] slackytude: oh, you here :), I've decite to come back to slackware for a while :) [13:21] Arenics, ^-^ [13:22] slackytude: I've download the first disc, but I think that I need the second fo X system [13:22] yes [13:22] slackytude: what about the 4, 5 and 6, what ships with thoses ? [13:22] Arenics, KDE and source [13:23] wait [13:23] ok [13:23] 4,5,6 are just source [13:23] afaik [13:23] source for what [13:23] kernel ? [13:23] everything [13:23] in slack [13:24] does kernel source comes with the second disc ? [13:24] i suggest reading Slackware.Howto that should be on the first disk [13:24] nimrod: why would you put the output from nano in to the file? [13:24] spook: hm... OK, thank you [13:24] slackytude: thank you. [13:24] Arenics, not sure, if it is in the first three its on 1 [13:25] Arenics, might just be kernel-headers tho [13:25] ok [13:25] :) ty [13:25] np [13:25] straterra, i don't know how to edit the file. I did it yesterday, and i wrote what i did down in a textfile, but forgot to save it [13:26] nimrod, you wrote to modprobe.d [13:26] use nano..or vim.. [13:26] or whatever editor you want [13:26] awww, slackbuild for nethack doesnt compile on -current [13:26] nimrod, how could you possibly lost your settings for a third time and also forgot what you did twice already [13:26] slackytude, i installed slackware again [13:27] Action: slackytude sighs [13:27] Why? [13:27] and forgot to save the textfile [13:27] any reason for that? [13:27] yes, i think because of alsaconf X was unstable [13:28] ... [13:28] unstable..how? [13:28] i didn't find my soundcard with alsaconf, so i used some kind of mixed settings [13:28] and was warned about that [13:28] What sound card? [13:29] xfi soundblaster [13:29] Where can I find some nice podcasts about slackware? [13:29] That's because the xfi has HORRIBLE support in Linux [13:29] he knows that already [13:29] tooly (n=tooly@e178154030.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [13:29] I thought you said you had an intel sound card? [13:29] but i figured out that i didn't need to do alsaconf, i just had to install the xfi-drivers, [13:30] done [13:30] yes, but the hda soundcard is dead [13:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] Reav___ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [13:32] but now i know what to do, except for the modprobe.d [13:33] nimrod, I dont know what you had to write [13:33] it was some option line [13:33] nah14 (n=nah14@c83-251-39-128.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:33] option usb last or somthing [13:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:33] yes [13:33] IIRC, it was something like adding sound-usb-bla = 1 so usb video cam doesn't come up as default audio [13:33] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [13:33] options snd-usb-audio index=1 [13:34] I *think* [13:34] what slackytude said :) [13:34] Arenics (n=Administ@189.105.234.83) left irc: ":)" [13:34] ^-^ [13:34] i was shocked to find out today my workplace uses samba for its file serves. for some reason i though samba was a peice of shit. [13:34] nimrod, *write* *it* *down* [13:34] yes, slackytude [13:34] Action: slackytude slaps yesyes [13:34] yesyes: since ms has to use samba documentation, I would hazard a guess that "samba is NOT a POS" :) [13:35] nimrod, seriously, if you come again here with the very same question a 4th time I presonally sabotage your efforts [13:35] Action: yesyes samba was just a shoddy implementation of windows networking [13:35] you live [13:35] and learn [13:35] it wont happen again, slackytude..i would save this information now [13:35] .... [13:35] ^-^ [13:35] ^thougt samba... [13:35] that's why I emailed that snippet to myself :) [13:35] yesyes: go away troll [13:35] heh [13:35] thought... bah [13:36] yesyes: heh, for reasons stated here and others, samba = good :P [13:36] how am i trolling? saying i've found out that samba isn't shit? [13:36] the main samba dude works for MS now [13:36] OMGNO. NOWICANTUSEIT. [13:36] or one of the main samba dudes [13:36] NOTFREE [13:36] I find that very funny and ironic, personally [13:37] eviljames: going samba -> ms, OK as long as nothing goes ms -> samba (other than docs) [13:37] alisonken1church: *ahem* I was trolling [13:37] i think i'll learn more about it now [13:37] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:37] maybe smb protocol gets better now [13:37] eviljames: I'm past my bedtime :) [13:37] its still pretty noisy [13:38] compared to NFS or so [13:38] compared to ANY unix protocol :) [13:38] heh [13:38] nah14_ (n=nah14@c83-251-39-128.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:38] (or *nux protocol) [13:38] nux? [13:38] :P [13:38] i'm in bed with a woman, and i'm on irc [13:38] sure [13:38] beat that [13:39] nux [13:39] the last network fileserver i ever looked at was nfs i think. it was fairly easy to setup. but then there are those security issues. [13:39] doh! spook for the geek points [13:39] yesyes, pretty much solved with version 4 [13:39] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.17.169) joined ##slackware. [13:39] not to mention the awsome fish aka sshfs [13:39] yesyes: what security issues? [13:40] straterra: That whole "having to set appropriate permissions one"... otherwise all users can see everything! [13:40] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [13:40] slackytude: so do you think nfs4 > samba, or are they different beasts? (except for the fact windows picks up samba by default) [13:40] "especially that pron directory !!" [13:40] Oh..you mean..the security issue of setting something up properly! [13:40] Heh [13:41] Action: alienBOB thinks that people thinking Samba was a POS have been sticking their head up a closet for 15 years [13:41] i thought the security issue was being able to pretend you're a different pc to gain access to other fileshares... [13:41] shes asleep though. and its her birthday [13:41] yesyes, windows does NFS by default as well. at least the server stuff [13:41] pretend to be a different pc? [13:41] Samba is a wonderful example of successful reverse engineering [13:42] spook: well, happy birthday to her. [13:42] NFS allows mounts to clients by IP [13:42] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:42] straterra: ip address, hostname, etc. [13:42] if you manage to spoof those, its pretty much over [13:42] eviljames: right. i'll be sure to pass on the message. the message that some random guy on an irc channel wishes her happy birthday [13:43] you can spoof an IP or MAC address. [13:43] spook: Just out of curiosity, why are you on irc when there are breasts (other than your own) to play with? [13:43] eviljames: shes tired and wanted to sleep. [13:43] eviljames: he needs to tell others he has access to such. in the same way you need to tell ubuntu users you use slackware. [13:44] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [13:44] yesyes, sadly I dont had the chance to play much with NFSv4. from all I hear its pretty good tho. for now Id say NFS=samba [13:44] NFS>CIFS [13:44] :P [13:44] alienBOB, agreed [13:44] samba is a great success story [13:44] Eh..I'd rather use CIFS than NFS [13:44] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.40) left irc: Connection timed out [13:44] More support on clients [13:44] depends [13:45] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] nah14_ (n=nah14@c83-251-39-128.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "leaving" [13:45] mwnn (n=user@59.92.130.178) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Does slackware 12.2 have gitweb packaged along with git? [13:45] I don't think so [13:46] but it has git-instaweb [13:47] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:48] how i shot web? [13:48] I have new 12.2 install and slackpkg complains that it needs GPG key of Slackware Linux. I did: slackpkg update gpg but still getting same error. [13:48] Any ideas? [13:49] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.72.128) joined ##slackware. [13:49] nsp: turn off gpg [13:49] slackpkg update gpg [13:49] spook: I've never had to do that before... but ok. [13:50] antiwire: I did that. [13:50] antiwire: But didn't seem to change anything. [13:50] Turning off the gpg check is not too security-conscious [13:50] nah14 (n=nah14@c83-251-39-128.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Connection timed out [13:50] uh [13:51] that shouldnt happen [13:51] what could be wrong? [13:51] what key you got? [13:51] slackytude: I dono. [13:51] how do I tell? [13:51] for reference, i am suggesting turning off gpg for debugging onnly [13:52] spook: Ok, good.. [13:52] wsp4th (i=wsp4th@208.88.85.160) joined ##slackware. [13:53] if it works after you turn off gpg, its probally not something else [13:53] spook: How do you turn off gpg? [13:53] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [13:53] Edit slackpkg.conf [13:54] nsp, did you download current packages by chance? [13:54] I'd want to see the errors when you run slackpkg update gpg [13:54] slackytude: Install was 12.2 [13:54] alienBOB: No errors [13:54] legendulo (n=RF@92.84.17.169) left irc: Client Quit [13:54] positron_ (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] alienBOB: Last line says: /tmp/slackpkg.QKvNMo/gpgkey' saved [1565] [13:55] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.91.120) left irc: Connection timed out [13:56] i had a gpg problem when i updated to current [13:56] Action: yesyes thinks back [13:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:56] cat: /tmp/slackpkg.QKvNMo/gpgkey: No such file or director [13:56] That's interesting ^^^^ [13:56] gpg --list-keys [13:57] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:57] it will be removed and added to keychain [13:57] gpg --list-keys returns nothing. [13:58] So, there does seem to be a problem with keys [13:58] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:58] nsp, you could try and add the key by hand [13:58] what mirror are you using? [13:59] maybe I have to do slackpkg update again [13:59] nsp: have you recently tried to upgrade to -current? [13:59] No, that didn't do any good. [13:59] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:00] using tds.net [14:00] yesyes: No, it is fresh install. [14:00] But wouldn't mind upgrading to -current.... [14:00] Maybe I should try another mirror? [14:01] nsp, try this [14:01] as root: [14:02] gpg --fetch-keys ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/linux/mirrors/slackware/slackware-12.1//GPG-KEY [14:02] then try gpg --list-keys again [14:02] then try slackpkg [14:02] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) joined ##slackware. [14:02] 12.1? [14:03] duh [14:03] slackytude: still nothing [14:03] gpg --list-keys returns nothing. [14:03] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] did the first command produce any output? [14:03] gpg --fetch-keys doesn't seem to do anything either [14:04] it should [14:04] gpg --fetch-keys ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/linux/mirrors/slackware/slackware-12.2//GPG-KEY [14:04] gpg: key 40102233: "Slackware Linux Project " not changed [14:04] gpg: Total number processed: 1 [14:04] nsp, you could try to run kdesu kgpg and import the key there but it looks like you gpg package is kaput [14:05] nsp: did you do a full install of Slackware 12.2? [14:05] cos Im pretty sure --fetch-key should produce some output [14:08] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Action: nix_chix0r streaks [14:08] shame on me [14:08] whadup peeps [14:08] samba, nfs4 and gpg [14:09] alienBOB: yES, full install [14:09] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) joined ##slackware. [14:09] nix_chix0r: sup [14:09] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [14:09] gpg --fetch-keys ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/GPG-KEY [14:10] I did ^^^^^ but didn't seem to have any effect. [14:10] y0 nix_chix0r, fire|bird [14:10] Hey guys! Can someone help me getting my usb headphones working with ALSA? thanks! [14:10] y0 slackytude [14:10] just fed the boy, debating if i'll crawl back into bed till the last minute before owrk [14:10] nix_chix0r, heh, just face your destiny [14:10] nsp, well something's gone horrifically wrong with gpg. you need to work out what's up with that, first of all. [14:10] kdesu: cannot connect to X server [14:11] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:11] gaz- (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:11] slackytude, i can't wana:( [14:11] yesyes: Obviously. [14:11] fucking tuesdays blah [14:11] sometimes i think they are worse thanmondays [14:11] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [14:11] heya fire|bird, nix_chix0r, slackytude ^_^ [14:11] hihi [14:11] nix_chix0r: so tuesdays are a sexual experience for you? [14:11] heya Necos [14:11] nix_chix0r: too true. I'm at work on this disgusting tuesday. [14:11] i'm goin to be super busy today, 4 appeals and records [14:12] hey eviljames [14:12] y0 Necos [14:12] fire|bird: hey there [14:12] hi nix_chix0r [14:12] nsp, yes actually because my supervisor leaves for 2 hours on tuesdays. and husband and i are alone=) [14:12] i just got back from work :evil: [14:12] nsp, try that as normal user [14:12] heh, i'm looking thru the LAUSD catalogue to setup an order that will probably be rejected :( [14:12] we play "hide the swingline" [14:12] nix_chix0r: lol [14:13] similar to hide the soap? [14:13] sure [14:13] Action: slackytude is already home from work \o/ [14:13] lol [14:13] must be a tad more difficult with a stapler. [14:13] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:13] lul [14:14] i just dont wana do the appeals [14:14] bahahahahah I put "has " into google's new Caffeine service to see what it suggested [14:14] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.72.128) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [14:15] eviljames: and it suggested what? [14:15] nsp, try to remove and install your gpg again [14:15] nsp, altho at this point I suspect gremlins [14:15] gremlins are fun to catch and torture [14:15] some great suggetions for searches: "has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like" [14:15] also "has the large hadron collider destroyed the world yet?" [14:16] Well, I would say probably not to the second one. We're still here. :/ [14:16] for now anyway [14:16] I was concerned that the first one might have been gibberish. Turns out it was 4chan (which is gibberish by definition) [14:17] nsp: How to remove / install again? [14:18] "has the secret of linky & dinky's magicshelf been exposed" [14:18] I can't help but search for that... [14:19] argh... [14:19] wtf.. how? http://www.linkydinky.com/magicSHELF.shtml [14:20] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [14:20] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [14:21] eviljames: Well duh, it's magic. :P [14:22] heh, apparently! [14:23] Getting error now: " key 40102233: no valid user IDs " [14:23] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [14:24] "this may be caused by a missing self-signature" [14:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [14:25] wow, those are impressive error messages. [14:26] Action: yesyes jots them down [14:26] mercfate (n=fernando@srvinternet.cometais.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:26] hi [14:26] ho [14:26] anyone can help-me with iptables? [14:26] Not anyone can [14:26] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:26] (What issue are you having? Pastebin your commands) [14:27] i have this "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $interna -p tcp -s ! 192.168.1.6/32 -d ! 200.201.174.0/24 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1:3128" [14:27] Can someone help me getting my usb headphones working with ALSA? thanks! [14:27] straterra: "well it began when I was young......" ;) [14:27] i need to have 2 ips out of squid [14:27] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:28] but o dont know how i can write this on iptables [14:28] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:29] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:29] 192.168.1.6/32,192.168.1.x ? [14:29] ,? ;? [14:29] eviljames: it's just an L bracket with a small lip on the underneath to hold the bottom cover [14:30] quasar: WTF THATS NOT MAGIC AT ALL. LIARS! [14:30] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [14:31] How do we delete gpg [14:31] ?: [14:31] nsp: that's not the error message you get is it? http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/1999-December/004656.html [14:31] the one about the algorithm, too? [14:31] no valid user IDs [14:31] ^^^^^ [14:32] removepkg, installpkg [14:32] not sure about the last error. how did you get that? [14:33] how i can exclude more than 1 ip from iptables rule? [14:33] slackytude: Was that for me? [14:34] nsp, yeppers [14:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] hey guys where is my recycle bin [14:34] in trollland [14:34] thrown away [14:34] o_o [14:34] in Windows [14:35] Action: init[1] waves o/ to slackers [14:35] Action: slackytude waves back [14:35] so what you're saying is... if i open control panel, i should have something there? [14:35] yo slackytude [14:35] removepkg, installpkg >>what package< dakarn: perhaps you should be more specific in your question. [14:36] dakarn:  _  [14:36] dakarn, it would help if you said which DE/WM [14:36] dakarn: are you talking to right channel ? [14:36] Consider that a look of disapproval [14:36] omg stop looking at me eviljames [14:36] eviljames, I feel it [14:36] gpg --fetch-keys ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/GPG-KEY [14:36] gives error: key 40102233: no valid user IDs [14:36] i secretly have a crush on slackytude that's why i'm here [14:36] dakarn, O_o [14:36] disapproving eviljames .. is disapproving. [14:37] wut lol [14:37] So how do I delete gpg key and install again? [14:37] howdy BP{k} [14:37] slackytude: lucky guy !! [14:37] wb fire|bird [14:37] i tried this newfangled linux thing. they told me to put in the 2nd cd to install x server so i put it in. and when i had to put in the 3rd cd for KDE there wasn't anymore room left [14:37] slackytude: gets all the love :P [14:37] hey init[1] [14:37] fire|bird: howdy, how goes? [14:37] mercfate (n=fernando@srvinternet.cometais.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:38] BP{k}: laptop issues again, but aside from that, doing great, thanks. [14:38] fire|bird: have you considered taking a hammer to it? ;) [14:38] am I supposed to issue the gpg commands as root, or user? [14:38] dakarn, you dont happen to be female, do you? [14:38] lol [14:38] nsp, as root [14:38] nsp, the user slackpkg runs as [14:39] Ok, that's what I thought. [14:39] BP{k}: what does your nick stands for ? BP and k? [14:39] BP{k}: OHGODWHY? :P I shall get it fixed, I have access to other parts, so no worries. I'll probably swap the whole dang mobo and whatnot this time. :) [14:39] fire|bird: hehe, that's the spirit. "I SHALL FIX THIS LAPTOP, EVEN IF I HAVE TO REALLY BUILD A NEW ONE AND ALL THAT IS ORGINAL IS THE CASE!" ;) [14:40] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [14:40] lol [14:40] if by female you mean that i probe my ports... then no [14:40] o_O^ [14:40] init[1]: a too long story. [14:40] hello [14:40] >.> [14:40] Im not sure that would be my definition of female but I kind of anticipated the outcome [14:40] BP{k}: haha, yup. :) and if that fails (which would be beyond thinkable) I'll just steal the new X41 chopp just got yesterday. :D [14:41] nimrod, whats the line? [14:41] BP{k}: aa,well i figure figure it out, and tell ya, btw did i mention that i'm from FBI? [14:41] so no trolling aside, am i the only one who wants to buy one of those ultra tiny pcs? [14:41] options snd-usb-audio index=1 [14:41] s/i/i will/ [14:41] nimrod, great ^-^ [14:41] :) [14:41] BP{k}: This one shall get fixed though, aside from it needing a new everything except for the case, it's a great laptop. :P [14:41] init[1]: I didn't know the fbi has hit such hard times. [14:41] but i doen't know what file to write it in :/ [14:42] sigh [14:42] don't* [14:42] something like http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html [14:42] i have an obsession =/ [14:42] nimrod, well, any file in /etc/modprobe.d/ [14:42] nimrod, create one there [14:42] fire|bird: heh, seriously man, I do hope you get it to work :) [14:42] anyone know how to remove the quotes from konsole ?kde4.3 [14:42] kde4.2* [14:42] BP{k}: >>--(-_-)--> [14:42] BP{k}: thanks. me too. :P [14:42] what should i call the file? modprobe.conf? [14:43] slackytude: I have no modprobe.d folder :P [14:43] nimrod, no, not modprobe.conf [14:43] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:43] deco: that would be bsd-games, specifically fortune. You could either remove that package, or I think there's a file you could edit somewhere to get rid of em. [14:43] nimrod, call it "slackytude-hero-of-stylistics" [14:43] fire|bird: oh thanks! [14:44] deco: so if you went the removal route, it'd be to remove bsd-games, fortune is part of that. [14:44] slackytude, so it's the same what i call it? [14:44] slackytude: WOW, nice. :) [14:44] nimrod, yes, gotta be that name [14:44] fire|bird, heh [14:44] hehe [14:45] nimrod, seriously, any should do. not modprobe.conf tho, that exists [14:45] slackytude: would alsaconf create the modprobe.d folder? [14:45] ok [14:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] jplcrd, you dont have /etc/modprobe.d ? [14:45] thanks [14:46] slackytude: nope, had a few accidents while playing around with the blacklists and the sound files.. [14:46] fire|bird: yeah I removed bsd-games all is good now :-D [14:46] jplcrd, so you accidentialy the whole thing? [14:46] slackytude: I accidentally the whole thing. [14:46] deco, could have turned it off in profiles as well [14:47] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [14:47] run removepkg gnupg as root, nsp. then download gpg again from a slackware mirror, and run installpkg . then try slackpkg again. [14:47] Ok, the date was jan 1 something or other... I set the date and all is well. [14:47] slackytude: yeah i could, but bsd-games is useless for me :P [14:47] i need closure on this now. [14:47] It was problem with computer clock being way off. [14:47] nsp, come again? [14:47] nsp, ahhh [14:47] ah great. i found someone suggesting that solution on the net. [14:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:47] sounded a bit off though. [14:47] slackytude: any suggestions? [14:47] s/off/odd [14:48] nsp, heh, forgot to nptdate [14:48] re [14:48] jplcrd, just recreate it [14:48] slackytude: how would i do that? :) [14:48] mkdir /etc/modprobe.d [14:48] I had removed the Battery on the motherboard to clear things out a bit, because could not get this stupid thing to act right... and never reset the date / time. [14:48] Did that before the install actually... but just now realized the time needed to be reset. [14:48] slackytude: okay, thats basic haha, but what about the rest of the files inside it? [14:49] running updates now. Thanks all. [14:49] jplcrd, your best bet is searching with slackpkg [14:49] jplcrd, or get someone to send em to you [14:49] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:49] Action: yesyes wonders why that would affect gpg [14:49] slackytude: I was thinking that maybe running alsaconf would recreate the files? [14:50] alsamixer too [14:50] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [14:50] jplcrd, doubt it, some package put its there, imho [14:50] is kde 4.3.0 stable? [14:50] archiebenedict (n=chatzill@adsl-69-224-93-67.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] it didn't work [14:50] is anything truely "stable" ? [14:50] modprobe.d is not really alsa related [14:50] nop [14:50] not at all [14:51] well stable as 4.2.4 [14:51] slackytude: right, but alsa rights the changes there, so it might replace them [14:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) joined ##slackware. [14:51] jplcrd, dunno [14:51] it does [14:52] alsaconf does [14:52] dive: it does? [14:52] dive: would it create the modprobe.d folder though? [14:52] he just said it does :p [14:52] that should already be there [14:52] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.219) joined ##slackware. [14:53] dive: had a few accidents haha... but I can create it and it would be empty, my question is if alsaconf would write the needed files into it (blacklist, sound, base, etc..) [14:53] powtrix: I think its safe to say its pretty stable.. dont think they'd release it otherwise.. but I'm not a part of the KDE team and haven't used 4.3.0 so I can't say for sure [14:54] bingo !! BP{k} Body of Professional Knowledge [14:54] lol [14:54] jplcrd, just sound [14:54] init[1] why? [14:54] dive: and would that be enough to actually output sound? [14:54] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] quasar ok; a statement of fact followed by 3 disclaimers; wow, good going! :) [14:55] jplcrd, it ought to be, but depends on what else you may need for your system [14:55] Quiznos: shh, maybe powtrix wont realize it :) [14:55] Quiznos: if you scroll up a bit you will understand :) [14:55] lol [14:55] let's not and say i did [14:55] dive: im trying to get my usb headphones reproduce sound [14:55] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] headfos dont reproduce [14:56] jplcrd, which card? [14:56] alisonken1church where are you now? (new noun/nick) [14:56] I just hope they fixed the non-autohiding panels when autohide has been opted for [14:56] jplcrd, or do the headphones have built in card? [14:56] lol [14:56] dive: built in card. [14:57] dive: they worked before mate, stopped working out of the blue [14:57] jplcrd what code is on the crd? [14:57] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [14:57] jplcrd, and alsaconf finds it? [14:57] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:57] dive: well it found two hda-intel cards [14:57] dive: not the headphones, but sometimes they worked [14:58] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:59] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-176-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [14:59] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:59] http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/boston-college-prompt-commands-are-suspicious [15:00] Boston College Campus Police: "Using Prompt Commands" May Be a Sign of Criminal Activity [15:00] it is! [15:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:02] ooo....he knows how to use a computer...he must be a hacker [15:02] thats logic, that is [15:02] of course...there's nothing illegal about [15:02] 'being a hacker' or 'knowing how to hack' to begin with [15:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:03] some nazi shit right there [15:03] I type fast, I must be a hacker too! Everyone knows that you can defeat complex goverment firewalls by having your hands fly all over the keyboard! [15:03] Action: quasar motions to file this in the "who cares" section based upon "(b) the e-mails at issue were allegedly sent from a computer running Ubuntu Linux" [15:03] heh at the EFF law firm representing the case [15:03] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:03] "Fish and Robertson" [15:03] any of you seen/read/clicked the .gov warning/disclaimer on the clunker site? [15:04] yes [15:04] horseshit if you ask me [15:04] do you have a copy of the text? [15:04] Not I. they do have a point+click thing I think [15:04] agred [15:04] why horseshit? [15:04] nope, as soon as I saw it I closed my browser [15:04] ok [15:04] good for you [15:04] that's cocka maymee [15:04] thrice` [15:04] why aren't you at work [15:04] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:04] I am jeev [15:05] thrice` the site claims ownership of every box that connects and clicks through the eula [15:05] oh i didn't know the laundry department had irc [15:05] and to all your data. [15:05] quasar ait, it's in your cache [15:05] wait [15:05] jeev: they don't, I've been promoted to dish-washer (suckers) [15:05] lol, nice eula [15:05] nods [15:05] all your base are belong to us [15:05] only on winder boxen [15:05] nope, I have FF set to clear cache/cookies/etc on exit [15:05] no, all your info are belong to us [15:05] quasar ok [15:06] they're all insane, top-down. [15:06] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Action: Quiznos hides from Ech [15:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [15:07] it's so sad too [15:07] you're worried about the government getting your data? [15:07] nop [15:07] the 90's called, they want their paranois back [15:07] damnit, belated nsp, you come in here, introduce an odd bug in my life, and then fix it in a way that makes very little sense to me or google. and now my evening is ruined, and you're not even here, meaning i can't even moan at you directly. [15:07] lol [15:07] paranois [15:07] damn [15:07] Action: yesyes sulks [15:07] lol [15:08] slackytude "if you're not a little paranoid, then you ARENT paying attention!" [15:08] Everybody take their tinfoil hats off! [15:08] Action: Quiznos wears a beanie/propellor [15:08] Action: Quiznos spins [15:08] Quiznos, what I meant was, if you are afraid of the government getting your data, you are some decades too late [15:08] MIT did an empirical study on the effectiveness of tinfoil hats - turns out they'll actually INCREASE the ability for the government to read your mind! [15:08] that too [15:09] I live quite dangerously. I even use gmail for my email [15:09] yea, google's being quite evil lately, helping gubmint [15:09] damn thrice` [15:09] nice, huh? [15:09] so the cia and a small country in the mid east has everything you do [15:09] I gpg anything that I'm worried about in email anyway [15:09] crazy [15:09] even with gmail [15:10] Action: jeev makes sure never to email thrice` [15:10] google's been shutting down bloggers complained of by gvt [15:10] I only communicate non-trivial information face to face. [15:10] jplcrd, do you actually have two hda-intel cards? [15:10] Action: jeev communicates a jab into eviljames's face [15:10] swing & a miss [15:10] by any chance [15:10] my jab aint a swing! [15:11] You also can't communicate it via irc. [15:11] orly? [15:11] omg [15:11] Action: dive throws a brick at eviljames *bonk* [15:11] ha feel that? [15:11] i tricked ARIN into giving me a /8 [15:11] who wants ips [15:12] how much? [15:12] for the /8 or for ip [15:12] s [15:12] lol, don't trust jeev, are you mad? [15:12] each [15:12] they got that warrent because the roomate told the cops that he saw the guy setting up people's computers so they were undetectable at downloading torrents and that he thinks the guy hacked his own computer >.> [15:12] thrice`, i told them that i'm a holocaust survivor and they owe me the world [15:12] what a bitch [15:12] so they got scared i almost used the word anti-semite, so they gave it [15:12] Chakravanti kool [15:12] haha, morons [15:12] i'm selling them for $10,000/ip [15:12] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] pff [15:12] Chakravanti, old story [15:13] Quiznos, doesn't help tat you're named after a nasty ass food chain! [15:13] 10k? no one has that kind of scratch anymore :) [15:13] lol dont hate the fo0dy [15:13] they suck [15:13] oh well it's new to me [15:13] ok [15:13] i think quizno's knew they sucked, they just went chain for no reason [15:13] i've seen 6 quizno's close in the past 24 months [15:13] and dont blame on recession [15:13] blame on their sucky f00dage [15:14] i'm not emotionally invested to take offense :) [15:14] It's because they don't have a lardass spokesmodel like subway. [15:14] subway used to be delish [15:14] until they got too popular and big....... [15:14] now they give you shit quality, they build the sandwich like it's a damn rpm from redhat [15:14] lol [15:14] If Quiznos had kept marketing like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfcdqMTtU4 [15:15] giuppy (n=giuppy@host159-38-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:15] HAHAHAHAAH [15:15] with a slingshot [15:15] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [15:16] That one is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdKEn03OMnE [15:16] MUCH better [15:16] eviljames: seriously, i remember that commercial [15:16] it rocked [15:17] the media, the medium by which you're controlled [/mr lif] [15:17] i dont remember those, they must be fake [15:18] subway here in my hospital got in trouble because they had too many choices for cheese.. so they got rid of swiss... WTF? how do you make a ham sandwich now? [15:18] they also got in trouble for too many chip choices... [15:18] how do you get in trouble for giving customers choices? [15:19] /shrug [15:19] a fastfood outlet in a hospital? crazy. [15:19] antiwire, thats too confusing [15:19] 1984 called and they wanted their cheese back. [15:19] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:20] victory cheese [15:20] yesyes: Agreed. WTF is a fast food outlet doing in a hospital? [15:21] dive: no, i don't :S [15:21] it's next to our cafeteria. [15:21] it makes sense.. people work here like they live here. [15:21] is it a diet clinic? [15:22] no, full blown hospital. [15:24] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "bye" [15:24] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) left irc: "Leaving" [15:25] agentc0re|work damn shadows, kill one pls, those are some crazy people you work with! [15:25] shadows? [15:25] agentc0re [15:26] oh. [15:26] prefix a _ [15:26] bah.. [15:27] a hospital pretty much saying fast food is fine is a little unnerving. [15:27] plz stop reading my brain [15:27] that must be determined case by case; sandwiches are good [15:27] still, i don't really care that much! [15:27] i'm quite thin! [15:27] yesyes: well subway isn't that bad.. not like it's a McD's or something. [15:28] true, but it's still a fast food outlet. [15:28] antiwire: http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/08/11/034221/Earths-Period-of-Habitability-Is-Nearly-Over?from=rss [15:28] agentc0re; lol [15:28] over? let's here from God on that? [15:28] yesyes: IMO it's a health place and the food served there is much more health than the food served in their own cafeteria. [15:29] he says "the earth shall never be destroyed" [15:29] awesome [15:29] only a few billions years more to go [15:29] antiwire: yup :D [15:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:29] more like this century. [15:29] this will happen to change things completely. [15:29] this/things [15:29] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [15:29] antiwire: i wonder if once we're out of the habitable zone that mars enters it shortly there after? [15:30] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] bah, thats nothing, in a few billion years the milky way will crash into some other galaxy whose name eludes me at the moment [15:30] and nobody cares [15:30] andromeda [15:30] slackytude: andromeda [15:30] I wrote my congress critter but he didnt even answer! [15:30] well, whatever [15:30] antiwire: Because within that 2billion years we should be able to see mercury run into the sun. [15:30] Florida going to approve nuclear power plants, 2200Mw [15:30] the sun will die before then though [15:30] slackytude: that other galaxy is my citrix server. Andromeda. [15:30] lol [15:31] slackytude: i think we wont crash into that for a bit longer. [15:31] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) joined ##slackware. [15:31] i'm sure i'll be bored with the milky way in a few billion years, and will therefore be happy of the spectacle. [15:31] an entire galaxy working as citrix server? dont let greenpeace hear that [15:31] time == distance; time is fiction. [15:31] Running alsamixer -c 2 gives me control over the correct card, yet it does not play any sound... Any ideas on how to correct this? [15:31] what happened that Hawking was in the news recently? [15:32] i think i remember reading about how the earth will fall out of the habitable zone in 2million years. [15:32] pff; wont happen [15:32] I hope my insurance covers that [15:32] lol [15:32] maybe he's like me and shows up at opportune times [15:33] slackytude: you should call and ask. [15:33] agentc0re|work, good idea! [15:33] Quiznos, hawking was just in the news when the someone said that if hawking had socialized health care like they do in Britain then he would be dead [15:33] Do you cover "Earth out of the Habitable zone" type coverage? [15:33] edman007 seriously? [15:33] Quiznos, yes...they forgot he is british [15:33] agentc0re|work, for a premium! [15:33] wow [15:33] that's masty [15:33] nas* [15:34] edman007: LMAO!! [15:34] edman007: Was it on the TV or do you have a link? [15:34] thre's always a link [15:34] agentc0re|work, Quiznos http://2parse.com/?p=3720 [15:35] tv is not primary anymore; it's coincidental [15:35] looks like they updated though http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333933006516877 "Editor's Note: This version corrects the original editorial which implied that physicist Stephen Hawking, a professor at the University of Cambridge, did not live in the UK." [15:35] IBD is a good src [15:36] bbl [15:37] jplcrd: in kde? [15:37] eviljames: xfce [15:37] jplcrd: if so, point arts at the right place. Also try aplay to test. [15:37] is the Brit health care system taking care of Hawking or is it his own weatlh? that's the question.. [15:38] eviljames: aplay does nothing apparently [15:38] jplcrd: ensure that aplay is sending sound to the right device (man aplay) [15:39] quasar: Almost certainly NHS. [15:39] quasar, does it matter? the people who wrote the article are trying to say that if your are rich you wouldn't be able to buy your way out, so whoever is taking care of him, it is still in Britain, so i think it shows they are wrong either way [15:39] They're stupid either way, and the whole matter is a co-ordinated attempt to maintain the status quo. [15:40] eviljames: It isn't. aplay -l lists all of my devices (4 total), I need it to play through the third card (2). [15:40] So, s/stupid/corrupt/ and my point still stands. [15:40] eviljames: card 2: Headset [Creative HS-1200 Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] [15:40] jplcrd: in the man page it says -D to force a specific device. [15:40] andrews-sc (n=andrews@189.8.192.4) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:41] eviljames: after reading the article, it didn't mention rich people not having access at all.. it was more directed at sick people [15:42] sick people - like Hawking, that is [15:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:42] quasar: That article is asinine. [15:42] eviljames: how do I get the name of the PCM required for -D ? [15:43] jplcrd: I think "headset" will do [15:44] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] eviljames: output = bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)aplay: main:583: audio open error: Connection refused [15:45] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:45] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:46] terinjokes (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Heya! I've been using Gentoo for a while, and thinking about installing slack  how do I get started? [15:47] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-0322c893a4618c37) joined ##slackware. [15:47] illuz1oN_ (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:47] terinjokes, getting the iso is a good start [15:47] slackytude: what's with the instructions on getting a diskette? [15:48] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:48] terinjokes, you want a diskette? [15:48] slackytude: no, i was reading the "Install Help" [15:49] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [15:49] terinjokes: if you don't have a bootable cd. the iskette was the original boot methofd [15:49] http://slackware.com/getslack/ [15:50] ok, ok... getting the ISO [15:50] thats kinda oldschool [15:50] eviljames: any suggestions? :) [15:50] Action: terinjokes wonders why it's not on his university's mirror [15:50] slackytude: easiest and most reliable way though [15:50] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [15:50] jplcrd, tune in to sanity fm [15:50] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [15:50] slackytude: haha, well tuned in bro [15:51] jplcrd, usb stick > floppy [15:51] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-0322c893a4618c37) left irc: Client Quit [15:51] hellm abything > floppy [15:51] slackytude: of course... im talking about actually burning the iso onto a CD haha [15:51] slackytude: or dvd if full version [15:52] oh [15:52] right [15:52] terinjokes, just fyi, slack 13 is out soon [15:53] slackytude: then i'll wait and build my new computer ;) [15:53] heh, your call [15:53] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left ##slackware ("()"). [15:53] anyone know if virtualbox supports Win7, i kinda need that too, and it would be cool to just virtualize it [15:53] think so [15:54] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] let me ask [15:54] terinjokes: It certainly does. [15:54] eviljames: any idea of why I get that error? :S [15:54] jplcrd: sorry, was afk. [15:54] eviljames: thanks, you guys are so nice (and I don't have to fight to be heard, like in #ubuntu or #gentoo) [15:54] eviljames: np :P [15:55] terinjokes, thats because we eat newbies [15:55] always nice and quit [15:55] quiet [15:55] slackytude: am i immune? [15:55] terinjokes, we shall see -_- [15:55] jplcrd: I might be wrong about exactly which options should be used for aplay, but aplay -L should give you the pcm names [15:56] eviljames: yup, it does [15:56] terinjokes: It's not often that we're described as 'nice' in here. That's a pleasant change :D [15:56] disconcerting change? :) [15:57] terinjokes: I have Win7 in VirtualBox, it works great. [15:57] terinjokes: fire|bird runs win7 on VB, [15:57] jplcrd: and I've assumed that your user is a member of the audio group, and that the permissions are appropriate? [15:57] eviljames, for you maybe. I have random people telling me they fall in love with me all the time [15:57] aa,am late .. [15:57] init[1]: you fail. :P [15:57] almost had a run going then... [15:57] :/ [15:57] slackytude: I noticed that yesterday ... bizarre [15:58] eviljames: running aplay -L gives me an interesting output: "default:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, ALC885 Analog Default Audio Device". The default card should be "Creative HS-1200 Headset, USB Audio". Yes, haha I am in the audio group with the right permissions set. [15:58] eviljames, yesterday? some minutes ago [15:58] hey dive [15:58] hey [15:58] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:58] dive: How's it going? [15:58] slackytude: oh, i'm hungover [15:58] y0 dive , init[1] [15:58] not so bad, yourself? [15:58] heh [15:58] slackytude: time has been passing by SO slowly for me, I must have thought it was yesterday [15:58] dive: doing great, thanks. Should have a different mobo to try in the lappy in about an hour or so. [15:59] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] eviljames, fascinating [15:59] fire|bird, nice [15:59] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:59] slackytude: Relativity for the fail. [15:59] is there any other way to get time to pass like that? (i could use a break) [15:59] eviljames, heh, nicely put [15:59] hoobop, lsd [15:59] can't get much done that way [15:59] sleep [15:59] lol [16:00] slackytude: haha depends on the person [16:00] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:00] a nap [16:00] hoobop: move the clock ahead a few hours and dream? :) [16:00] jplcrd, true dat [16:00] hoobop: spin yourself in circles at increasing velocity [16:00] hoobop, get a really fast spaceship [16:00] does this have anything to do with Einstein? [16:00] wekfb (n=wired@201009239059.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:01] sure, he invented lsd. thats why his hair is like it is [16:01] hoobop: No, it has to do with being dizzy enough to forget time is passing by. [16:01] slackytude: A slackware powered spaceship. :D [16:01] lol [16:01] wekfb (n=wired@201009239059.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [16:01] fire|bird, whoa [16:01] thats not a moon! its a slackware ship [16:01] If it crashed, guaranteed planetary annihilation event. [16:01] Nick change: fire|bird -> slackship [16:01] :D [16:01] lol [16:02] Nick change: slackship -> fire|bird [16:02] /bin/warp [16:03] echo 7 > /bin/warp [16:03] gaz- (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] echo 7 > /proc/warpfactor [16:03] Warp10 [16:03] engage [16:03] /sys/engine/warpfactor [16:05] |Slacker| (n=tanis@200.146.21.93) joined ##slackware. [16:06] I GOT CHINESE! [16:06] HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR [16:06] fire|bird: is that a native install of Win7? [16:07] All core2 duo chips are x64 compatible right? I mean I should be able to use more than 3gig ram? I have a Core 2 Duo T7200 and I can't seem to get it to recognize more than 3gig.. memtest3.5 reports 3gig.. slack 12.2 does (of course it's not a x64 kernel..) but WIndows 7 64bit also sees only 3gig.. [16:07] Wescotte: Most [16:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QoA44c23A [16:07] Wescotte: Not all [16:07] Wescotte: The T7200 (http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9SL) does EM64T [16:07] eviljames: All models support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology (EIST), Intel 64, XD bit (an NX bit implementation), iAMT2 (Intel Active Management) <-- wikipedia says... [16:07] T7200 should be, I'd think [16:08] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.95.229) joined ##slackware. [16:08] I didn't realize that all c2d chips supported em64t, neat. [16:08] Now if only they all supported VT [16:08] Is it possible my motherboard chipset doesn't allow it? or am I just doing something wrong.. This is really my first attempt to do anything 64bit as I never had > 2gig ram.. [16:08] Wescotte : how much actual physical memory do you have? [16:09] how much ram do you have? [16:09] Your BIOS may not support it [16:09] Wescotte: Mem: 3933 3281 652 <- 64 bit system with 4GB [16:09] ananke: I just put in 2 2gig sticks for a total of 4gig.. [16:09] Wescotte : does your bios see 4GB? [16:09] Wescotte i thought you were writing about your Mommy's chips [16:09] ananke: yes.. says bank 0 2048 bank1 2048.. [16:09] and slackware sees it? [16:09] terinjokes: What do you mean by a native install? [16:10] Wescotte : also, keep in mind that if you have video card, its memory will be remapped in ram [16:10] slackware doesn't see the full 4gig but I'm using the default kernel.. haven't rebuilt to support x64.. [16:10] ananke: It's an intel chip.. will it really take a gig? [16:10] Wescotte: Wait..you're using 32-bit Slackware? [16:10] Wescotte : that depends on the amount of memory on the card, not the manufacturer [16:10] yes.. but I'm "testing" with memtest3.5 and Windows 7 64bit.. [16:10] Wescotte: slackware 12.2? [16:11] yes it's slack 12.2 which I KNOW won't see the full 4gig [16:11] Wescotte : download _any_ 64 bit linux distro, any live cd, and try it [16:11] Windows 7 and memetest3.5 should right? [16:11] 32 bits can see 4 gigs, you can see more with PAE w/o using 64 bit aware colonels [16:11] oh, brainfarts all over the place [16:11] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@97-115-248-214.tcso.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Action: quasar wonders why people come in here asking windows questions -_- [16:11] I was gonna snag Ubuntu but the memtest was smaller :) [16:11] quasar: I'm not asking a windows question.. [16:12] you're positive memtest is 64-bit? [16:12] you don't need 64 bits sto see 4 gigs [16:12] quasar: people come in here asking all sort sof questions. They don't always get answers. Certainly don't always get answers they want :P [16:12] thrice`: actually no.. but I am positive Windows 7 is as I d/led the 64bit version.. [16:12] mancha: so you're saying slack 12.2 should see the full 4gig? [16:12] no, slack 12.2 is 32-bit [16:12] yes [16:12] It is possible for slack 12.2 to see the full 4gig, but requires PAE [16:12] at least he's asking technical questions, which is more than we can say about 80% of chatter in this channel [16:13] ananke: s/chatter/nonsense/ [16:13] eviljames : very much so [16:13] why do people keep saing 32 bits can't see 4 gigs? what do you think the limitation is for 32 bit colonels? [16:13] hmm I assume PAE is disabled in the default kernel of slack 12.2? [16:14] alot of people only see about 3 gig on 32-bit linux, while 4G is actually there [16:14] Wescotte: What does the first line of /proc/meminfo tell you? [16:14] I was always under the impression that with a 32bit instruction you only had so many address bits to use making like 3gig the limit.. [16:14] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-168-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:14] or is it 3Gigs, now you have me doubting myself [16:14] Wescotte : zgrep CONFIG_HIGHMEM /proc/config.gz [16:14] mancha: 32-bit sees a maximum of 4GB for ALL memory devices on the machine without PAE [16:14] ananke: 1 sec.. rebooting the machine [16:14] That includes sound cards, video cards..etc [16:15] ah ok, that makes sense [16:15] Wescotte : actually, here's a simpler output: zgrep ^CONFIG_HIGHMEM= /proc/config.gz [16:15] yeah PAE will solve that issue w/.o requiring a 64 bit colonel [16:15] yes, resist 64-bit, it's soo evil [16:15] mancha : 'kernel'. for christ's sake, it's 'kernel' [16:15] use hackish PAE instead [16:15] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [16:15] its not colonel? [16:15] eviljames: can you boot straight into it, and use vbox, or is it vbox only? [16:15] mancha: colonel = military term [16:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mancha : www.kernel.org [16:16] i always get the latest from git.colonel.org, am i running military spyware? [16:16] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-168-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mancha: it's ok, I caught the joke :D [16:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8sGw5-C-jw [16:16] opinion? haha [16:16] evil, that makes one of you :) [16:17] mancha : others have caught that too, they just didn't think it was funny anymore [16:17] ^^ [16:17] anymore?? at all [16:17] its probably been said a couple thousand times [16:18] ananke: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y [16:18] i give you one time. two times is stretching it. by the third time, it's overdone [16:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-177-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:18] eviljames: emTotal: 3105416 kB [16:18] Wecott, seems like your colonel needs a recompile [16:19] it doesn't. it wouldn't solve this issue. [16:19] What is my issue? [16:19] Also, when I went to reboot it memtest reports several errors in the memory :) [16:19] so I probably need to get it replaced.. [16:20] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-92.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] hahah [16:20] All this trouble, and its faulty ram [16:21] Well is it possible that the whole problem of the incorrect # because the ram is damaged? [16:21] I mean the bios sees 4gig.. shouldn't the OS too? even if it's damaged? [16:21] With bad ram ANYTHING becomes possible. [16:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] seriously, bad ram can reverse the pull of gravity. [16:21] hah [16:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:21] more than my mom laying on a waterbed [16:21] okay, well I'll replace it and see what happens then :) [16:21] wecotte, how much ram does free show? [16:21] Thanks for all the help guys [16:21] and amek black holes return their stolen light [16:22] terinjokes (n=terin@wikinews/Terinjokes) left ##slackware. [16:22] mancha: does what show? bios says 4gig.. slack says 3ish.. memtest says 3ish.. windows 7 says 2.99 or something like that.. [16:22] Wescotte, 3 gigs roughly? seems fine to me you just need x86-PAE which your colonel doesn't have set [16:22] I think windows 7 says 4gig with 2.99 available.. [16:23] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@97-115-248-214.tcso.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:23] so kawmpile the colonel with it unless you want to just put a 64 bit colonel in there [16:23] mancha: MemTotal: 3105416 kB [16:23] ram's fine [16:23] mancha: The kernel HAS PAE [16:23] I have to assume memtest has x86-PAE too.. [16:23] no need to run out and replace the sticks (chicken little, the sky ain'tfalling) [16:24] 14:13 < Wescotte> ananke: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y [16:24] thats not x86_PAE [16:24] Action: Wescotte is so confused :) [16:25] Hello [16:25] should I just snag ubuntu 64bit and see what it says? [16:25] if it's reporting 3gig too there is probably another issue right? [16:25] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Wescotte, do you have an onboard graphics controller? [16:26] br00tal: yes [16:26] brand? [16:26] or chipset, rather [16:26] 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [16:26] ok [16:26] that's probably not it [16:26] opera fonts are not kerning correctly; how do I increase the char block size? [16:26] |Slacker| (n=tanis@200.146.21.93) left irc: "Leaving" [16:27] sometimes, especially with AMD processors, onboard ATI graphics can steal almost an entire gig or RAM [16:27] it's retarded [16:27] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:27] br00tal steal> [16:27] steal? [16:27] config highmem64 or summit [16:27] yeah, or use [16:27] however you want to put it [16:27] jplcrd, any luck with sound issue? [16:27] br00tal: yeah, but usually when it does it reports the amount.. [16:27] br00tal ive got amd and nvidia [16:28] dive: I have my speakers working, no luck with the headphones though... [16:28] wonderful [16:28] ironically, a kernel upgrade to 2.6.30.4 fixed my problem with burning dvd's (used generic smp config, just made ext4 <*>) [16:28] eviljames: so CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is this PAE or isn't? [16:28] opera fonts are not kerning correctly; how do I increase the char block size? [16:29] jplcrd, does 'alsamixer -c 1' bring up controls for usb? [16:29] dive: alsamixer -c 2 does :) [16:29] oewa fonts not dispalying corectly. how do I fix this? [16:29] ok [16:29] Wescotte: I think I was wrong about that. [16:29] dive: They still dont play though : / any suggestions? [16:30] or would this be ONLY a site prob with extensive js code? [16:30] jplcrd, can you pastebin /etc/modprobe.d/sound [16:30] eviljames: okay.. well I'm just gonna snag Ubuntu 64 and see what it reports.. and run it's memtest for awhile.. [16:30] Wescotte: Good plan [16:30] thanks again for the help guys [16:31] dive: yup [16:31] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@97-115-249-66.tcso.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] dive: http://pastebin.com/m24137a6f [16:32] jplcrd, what does alsamixer -c 1 show? Another Intel? [16:32] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@97-115-249-66.tcso.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:32] Oh, I got one more question not really slack related but somebody here might have run into it.. I have a bunch of HDV tapes I'd like to backup to harddrive (in addition to storing the HDV tapes).. Anyone know a way to make an ISO of a tape? I've seen dvbackup but it's not quite it.. And capturing the tape to a single file works but it's not ideal as each app I use seems to create a slightly different container file whi [16:32] ch annoys various NLEs.. keeping an exact bit for bit copy of the tape would be the best.. [16:33] dive: nope, shows "Card: HDA ATI HDMI" [16:34] jplcrd, ok, does alsaconf see your usb headset at all? [16:34] dive: nope, shows two HDA-Intel's and the legacy cards [16:34] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [16:35] jplcrd, can you also pastebin lsusb please? [16:35] dartmout1 (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [16:36] hi, in man xterm, for the color options (-bg) where can I generate a list of possible colors? [16:36] dive: yup, http://pastebin.com/m401f64c1 [16:37] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) joined ##slackware. [16:37] rgb.txt [16:37] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:37] lol, yesterday my network teacher said that osi model is deprecated for ethernet.. [16:37] mancha: what? [16:37] that's not a command [16:38] thats the list already generated for you [16:38] ok, where can I GENERATE a list? [16:38] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [16:39] cp rgb.txt my-new-rgb.tx.file [16:39] anyone with a clue? [16:39] lol, coming from you? [16:39] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [16:39] google for a hex color chart [16:39] open a box of crayons, and read the labels [16:39] what are you after exactly? [16:40] well, there are nicks for some of the predefined colors. im after a command whose result is a list of those colors, that isn't dependent on a distro-specific pregenerated text-file (which is absurd) [16:41] It should accept any hex color code; that's quite universal [16:41] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] yes, but where are the labels in the system? [16:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:41] what labels??? [16:41] like [16:41] you type it in with your keyboard [16:41] ``greysteel`` [16:41] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) left ##slackware ("Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."). [16:41] ``white`` [16:42] ``blue`` [16:42] http://www.w3schools.com/HTML/html_colornames.asp [16:42] take your pick [16:42] dive: any conclusions? :P [16:42] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) joined ##slackware. [16:42] thrice`: not w3schools!!! [16:42] Action: dartmout1 thinks thrice` knows what I'm asking but is being intentionally obstinant [16:43] you're asking bash to generate a list of hex codes for you, which I don't think it can do [16:43] hex codes? [16:43] no [16:43] I said *labels* [16:43] *labels*, man! lol [16:43] ``white`` [16:43] ``blue`` [16:43] ``greysteel`` [16:44] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) left irc: Client Quit [16:44] jplcrd, just trying to remember how to fix usb sound order. [16:44] Action: eviljames again suggests asound.conf [16:45] dive: thanks :) [16:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] Wait, I suggested that for someone else a while ago. [16:45] dartmout1: kcolorchooser or build/install gcolor2 [16:45] Action: eviljames hates hangovers [16:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [16:45] option usb-snd-audio index=1 [16:45] or sumething [16:45] http://mkaz.com/ref/xterm_colors.html [16:45] there's a cli app that comes with the base; its a common linux tool. this is in the system already, guys. [16:46] sorry-0 dsl trouble. i got cut off when mr clue callled the standards-based rgb color list a distro specific whatever [16:46] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e00eeb5.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e00eeb5.bb.sky.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:46] thrice`: I believe that the appropriate response is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xterm+colors [16:46] i just can't remember if it was a man page, or if it was a tool that just generates the list [16:46] slackytude, yeah something like that [16:46] showgrb? [16:46] er [16:46] rgb [16:46] there we go :D [16:46] thank you :) [16:47] anything for you cpunches [16:47] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:47] look at /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt dartmout1 [16:47] no, i know how to use the tail command with a pipe. [16:47] lol [16:47] jplcrd, can you pastebin 'lsmod | grep snd' please [16:48] oi. | less [16:48] dartmout1 (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("showrgb"). [16:49] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:49] eviljames: I thought it was to use crayons... or permanent markers... [16:49] I prefer whiteout to the delete key. [16:50] dive: http://pastebin.com/m301ea4eb :) [16:50] my lcd screen is covered in whiteout [16:53] quasar[l] (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] jplcrd, try this as a new /etc/modprobe.d/sound : http://pastebin.com/dfa82e5a [16:53] who was mr clue there? he was happy as hel with showrgb, which btw does essentially "cat /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt" [16:53] jplcrd, you will need to alsactl store, and then reboot [16:53] mancha, think that was cpunches [16:53] dive: why would I need to alsactl? [16:54] mancha, search noobfarm [16:54] oh, so a known linux guru, eh? [16:54] Action: slackytude nods [16:54] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [16:54] jplcrd, 'alsactl store' will store settings. When you boot the system does alsactl restore. [16:55] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [16:55] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "\o\ /o/ \o/" [16:55] i'm totally a linux noob [16:55] jplcrd, so best to store those settings properly before rebooting. [16:56] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] jplcrd, I am right in thinking that you want usb to be sound card 0, or first device? [16:57] dive: yes you are :) [16:58] anybody have a telecommute admin position available? [16:58] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:58] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [16:58] dakarn: Yes, you soon will be. [16:59] Too weird to live, but much too rare to die.. [16:59] dive: brb then :) [16:59] dakarn: Quotes in queue: 1 :P [16:59] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:59] farmed. [16:59] Next he'll need to be cubed [16:59] dakarn: http://www.timecube.com/ [16:59] eviljames: Nice! [17:00] oh, a new quote [17:00] I missed it [17:00] that dude is whacko. i seen that timecube on youtube [17:00] slackytude: it's in queue [17:00] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] awww [17:00] soon will be what [17:00] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [17:00] lol [17:00] makerc (n=makerc@189-18-105-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:00] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [17:00] just the one liner? [17:00] dakarn: You're number is #1645 [17:00] :D [17:01] ever close a url, copy something else, have wget faIL [17:01] ¯\(º_ø¨)/¯ DRIVES ME CRAZY [17:01] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:01] dude wtf?! the dvd burn works on the first one, then fails on the next one, same @#$ program, same @#$ options, same @#$ blank dvd+rw [17:01] oh god not on noobfarm [17:01] anyone ever read timecube from top to bottom? [17:01] dive, mad people everywhere [17:01] dive: Yes. made it to page 3. [17:02] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) joined ##slackware. [17:02] I rest my case [17:02] haha [17:02] slackytude: LOL [17:02] thats noobfarm! [17:02] timecube + mad reading skills = profit! [17:03] dive: alsamixer still shows the wrong card :S [17:03] i just scrolled through it [17:03] couldn't take it [17:04] agentc0re|work: timecube is the 2nd step [17:04] jplcrd, then you might have to do some jiggery with the order that modules are loaded [17:04] Step 1: Steal Underwear. Step 2: Timecube. Step 3: PROIT!! [17:04] lol [17:04] dive: could you possibly direct me towards some reading i could do on that? [17:04] I like the sound of that [17:04] Enlighten me, whats PROIT? [17:04] whose underwear? [17:04] when you are a PRO at IT [17:04] agentc0re|work, nice catch [17:05] or terrible at spellin [17:05] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left ##slackware. [17:05] jplcrd, google modprobe alias [17:05] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC." [17:05] jplcrd: check out /topic [17:05] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-92.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] Where, oh where can I get a timecube of my very own? [17:07] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:07] Does anyone know why the CHECKSUMS.md5 file doesn't include the sum of ./isolinux/isolinux.bin? [17:07] jplcrd, try this: 'rmmod snd_hda_intel' 'rmmod snd_usb_audio' then 'modprobe snd_usb_audio' 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' [17:07] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:07] jplcrd, then check alsamixer [17:07] I noticed it on -current and started to report it as an issue but then realized it's been missing at least back to 9.0 and probably always. So it's likely a dumb question and there's a good reason. [17:08] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [17:09] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:09] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:09] wsp4th (i=wsp4th@208.88.85.160) left irc: "Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes four muscles to extend your a [17:09] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-27-51-250.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] dive: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use [17:10] dive: should I do rmmod -f snd_hda_intel? [17:10] no [17:10] oh fun [17:10] i don't see 1645 [17:10] force it! and watch it burn! BURN! [17:10] Action: quasar[l] sets slackytude ablaze. [17:10] slackytude: loooool [17:10] dakarn: not yet... check back later. :D [17:10] muhaha ha ha haw [17:10] dive: what should I do then? :P [17:10] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:11] jplcrd, take pc outside and shoot it [17:11] jplcrd: i know i am coming in on this late.. but what happens when you are in alsamixer ? [17:11] go to init 1 or reboot [17:11] dive: haha, i've thought of that! [17:11] i believe the noobfarm will never update past 1644. that is my prophecy. too bad i'm just a narcissist and not a deity [17:11] jplcrd, put those lines in rc.local [17:11] someone say amen [17:12] jplcrd, the order is important [17:12] hey, stupid question... because i don't know much about em64t technology -> it can be thought as 64bit for processors, yes? [17:12] ;) [17:12] dive: doing so [17:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.95.229) left irc: "Leaving." [17:13] dakarn: dont you worry, someone with a stupid or especially funny comment will come and there will be a 1645 [17:14] Pig_Pen: i foresee it being him in #1645...(scroll up a bit) :D [17:14] dive: brb, restarting [17:14] jplcrd, wait [17:14] dive: okay [17:14] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] what runlevel are you in? [17:15] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:15] 3 or 4? [17:15] 4 [17:15] jplcrd, well probably don't matter which, but try 'init 1' in console, and then 'init 3' [17:16] what slackytude said [17:16] Pig_Pen: dakarn: You're number is #1645 [17:16] jplcrd, that might reload the modules [17:16] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] i am number is number one-six-four-five [17:16] not until the fat lady sings [17:17] (2:55:17 PM) dakarn: i'm totally a linux noob [17:17] ssssshhh i make up for my noobery by using SLAPT-Get [17:18] a noob and insane? [17:18] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:18] dakarn: OHGODNO [17:18] noobsane? [17:18] innoob? [17:18] anyway, gotta go sleep [17:18] nn [17:18] goodnight sweetie [17:18] Action: slackytude > /dev/bed [17:18] dakarn, O_o [17:19] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] dakarn: you just won 2 awesome points for calling slackytude sweetie :D [17:19] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) joined ##slackware. [17:19] not to mention the ##slackware bravery award [17:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!" [17:19] dakarn, are you, perhaps, of the female persuasion? [17:20] dakarn, well done sir, you have earned your paper hat. Wear it with pride. [17:20] slacky we had this convo [17:20] dive, eh [17:20] dakarn, ah righ [17:20] Action: slackytude sad [17:20] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:20] bg slackytude [17:20] why is it that only linux noobs get a crush on me? [17:20] Action: slackytude ponders [17:20] wtf, why wont that process disappear?! [17:20] gonight [17:20] slackytude & [17:20] there we go.. [17:20] gnight [17:20] mm what's your ip without vhost so i can finger you while you're asleep [17:20] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7591E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:20] eviljames, -9 it :> [17:21] lol wot? [17:21] dakarn: ... [17:21] dive: heh, I don't know who was giving tips to whom in here, but someone piqued my interest and I looked into the various kill signals [17:21] killall -9 <> or kill -9 PID [17:21] instant win [17:21] dakarn: More like using them to monitor the progress of dd. [17:21] yeah but it's best not to -9 [17:22] if -15 or -2 don't kill it then file a bug report [17:22] okay.. slack 12.2 /proc/meminfo is reproting MemTotal: 3105416 kB and Ubuntu 9.0464bit is reporting MemTotal: 3046132kB... [17:22] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:23] So... either the memory is defective... or my onboard video is snagging random amounts up to almost a gig? [17:23] ubuntu is stealing some of your ram and sending it to canonical [17:23] canonical? [17:23] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:23] If you use PAE/64-bit..it wont matter how much memory your video card uses [17:24] Pig_Pen: Did you see the UbuntuOne bug report? [17:24] Do you know if there is separate iso for PAE/64-bit ubuntu? [17:24] yeah, i dont trust canonical/ubuntu [17:24] Ubuntumuchmemory [17:24] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-51-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:24] Wescotte: yes [17:24] ah, I blame you for that posting on it then. [17:24] hah fuck.. I dunno wtf I'm doing now.. [17:25] MemTotal: 3111744 kB [17:25] 32bit doesn't use all my ram :'( [17:25] http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso [17:25] s/use/see [17:25] MemTotal: 4028264 kB [17:26] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10) [17:26] Mem: 8311040 [17:26] So, I am using an onboard graphics controller and it seems that it doesn't touch any of my ram. [17:26] maybe I should start over.. I bought 2 2gig sticks for my notebook..I bought it because i needed > 2gig for After effects to use both cores on my processor.. Windows 7 64bit reports 4gig (with 2.99) available.. Slackware reports what i said above (12.2 default kernel so not PAE/64bit..) Ubuntu 9.04 64bit also reports under 4gig as does memtest3.5.. [17:27] starbrze: that's the iso I d/led.. [17:27] just now.. to test with.. [17:27] yea they are going to report not 4gig available [17:27] Maybe your BIOS is messed up [17:27] my BIOS reports bank0 2048 and bank1 2048.. [17:28] On my HP laptop..the BIOS would report 4, but only like 3 something was available to any OS..despite 64-vit [17:28] bit^ [17:28] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-27-172-65.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:28] yeah i laughed at a friend who uses ubuntu because he's already eaten up 1GB ram according to free (on boot) due to ubuntu compiz ("ubuntiz") and me on Xfce with compositing enabled have only used up 300MB according to free [17:28] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] straterra: think it's my video chip stealing ram? [17:28] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.105.186) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:29] http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3124 [17:29] Wescotte: I'm beginning to suspect that. memtest86 didn't report bad ram? [17:29] eviljames: yeah memtest did just report errors.. [17:29] Wescotte: No [17:29] Your bios is just likely buggy [17:29] man, every so often, pm-hibernate fails to restore for me. quite annoying [17:30] I'll check if there is an update but I'm pretty sure I'm current.. [17:30] but I hope I'm not :) [17:30] the bios is buggy cause it does not tell him he has four gig ram? [17:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] bios does say 4gig.. [17:30] everything else doesn't [17:30] see this link http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3124 [17:30] Wescotte: Like I said..My HP did that [17:31] isn't there something about a large portion of ram being eaten up when setting for 4GB? [17:31] sure I've read that... [17:31] straterra: flashed bios and fixed it? [17:31] No [17:31] There wasn't ever a fixed BIOS [17:31] hah shit.. [17:31] There might be for you, though [17:31] dive: yea there is [17:31] panzer: That link is perfect. [17:31] panzer: And pretty much settles the debate. [17:31] I'll check now.. [17:32] panzer, yeah that's what I was talking about [17:33] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:34] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: "CALOURO VIADO!" [17:34] you need more then the four gig you move to 64bit. problem solved. [17:34] panzer: Uhm..no [17:34] ok then sorry you move to 64 or PAE [17:35] No.. [17:35] well moving to 64bit doesn't seem to solve my problem (yet) [17:35] 3-4GB is the area you WANT to move to 64-bit [17:35] yea that address hole. [17:36] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:36] but if I am going to 64bit then I will have more then 4gig of ram in a machine. with the prices now it is so cheap an extra 20$ gets you more [17:36] PAE can break tho... [17:36] i heard some evil distribs won't work w/o PAE enabled [17:37] but i heard this from my friend's cousin's wife's yoga instructor's daughter [17:37] I asked this about half an hour ago but I need to get off channel soon, so I'll ask again real quick: does anyone know why the CHECKSUMS.md5 file doesn't include the sum of ./isolinux/isolinux.bin? [17:37] well, I have the newest bios revision.. [17:38] bios says 4096MB ram with 8MB going to video.. [17:38] slak, maybe the .iso is not officially distributed by pat? dunno [17:38] jplcrd seems to have been and got lost in the void [17:39] Wescotte seems to have been lost in a void [17:39] hah and my notebook is still under warrenty :) [17:39] yes this is not a warranty problem [17:39] I know.. [17:39] just sucks.. [17:39] Wescotte: your notebook is no good, send that piece of junk to me [17:39] it is a hardware limit [17:39] Pig_Pen: you pay for shipping and it's yours [17:40] where do you live? [17:40] Pig_Pen: damn nice of him to do that. [17:40] Pig_Pen: kidding.. [17:40] yeah [17:40] I paid way too much for this notebook to give it away.. [17:40] sadly :( [17:40] some people have more money then sense [17:40] it's a tablet PC too.. $2400ish [17:40] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:40] do you know anyone with more money than cents? [17:40] put slackware74 current [17:40] you've tried ubuntu's liveCD Wescotte ? [17:40] 64 [17:41] mancha: thanks for the reply, but I figure it is - it's in the Slack tree and used in making the bootable discs. [17:41] thrice`: yup [17:41] obviously the 64-bit liveCD? :) [17:41] thrice`: yup [17:41] slak is it in ftp.slackware.com's tree? [17:41] ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso [17:41] and that only saw 3G too? [17:41] yes but the # was slightly differnet than slack 12.2s # [17:42] mancha: yep [17:42] huh, gotta be hardware related then [17:42] okay.. slack 12.2 /proc/meminfo is reproting MemTotal: 3105416 kB and Ubuntu 9.0464bit is reporting MemTotal: 3046132kB... [17:42] I guess I can return the ram for another set and see what happens.. [17:42] slak, then i have no intelligent answer, i thought you meant the dvd isos that some mirrors have [17:43] Wescotte: have you booted with only one stick in, then the other, and see what it says about each of them? [17:43] or just find a friend with 4gig in notebook ram to see what it does.. [17:43] thrice`: actually no.. but that's a damn good idea [17:43] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Wescotte: going to lay a fiver down and say the same issue is oging to happen [17:43] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] mancha: okay, thanks :) I'll head out now. [17:43] panzer: I'm with you on that one. [17:43] why would 64 bit ubuntu do that? i bet ubuntu makes all PCs part of some botnet under the control of canonical & shuttleworth [17:43] panzer: you think it's just the hardware doesn't support 4gig? [17:43] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [17:44] did you put x86_PAE in your colonel? [17:44] Wescotte: you are either going to need to go 64bit and get more ram [17:44] mancha: I read that as s/el// [17:44] and laughed [17:44] panzer: um, the whole POINT is that he's been trying both of those [17:44] panzer: I tried 64bit and that doesnt' work either.. it's either my bios/mobo doesn't support > 3gig or my ram is bad.. [17:44] or see if your bios supports moving the memory address hole above the 32bit limit [17:45] straterra already mentioned the totall addressable is 4gig's which means other addressable space fits in there, taking away addressable ram [17:45] my bios correctly sees 4GB or ram though.. so who knows.. [17:45] try some other 64 bit live CD [17:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_hole [17:45] Pig_Pen: Did.. [17:45] I just drove inland to the desert from the beach. 34F degree difference and a 57% difference in humidity. [17:45] this is brutal [17:45] ubuntu's kernel is surely fine [17:46] going to try Thrice's suggestion of 1 stick at a time and see what it reports.. and maybe try and find another 4gig to stick in and see what that reports.. [17:46] xgen (n=xgen@75.138.78.87) joined ##slackware. [17:46] ok since people are not actually reading about the issue [17:46] The limitations of the 32-bit PCI hole can affect purely 64-bit operating systems due to the system BIOS not knowing what type of operating system is to be booted. In this situation the [17:46] can i make this better than mesa 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [17:46] BIOS boots in a compatibility mode placing the devices below 4 gigabytes, even when a 64-bit system will be booting that does not need the PCI hole. If a BIOS can disable support for [17:47] booting in 32-bit mode, then the devices can be mapped high up in the 64-bit address space to eliminate the hole. [17:47] from the page I just linked 16:45 < panzer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_hole [17:47] panzer: The only option I have in the bios for anything remotely close to that is select PNP OS type.. [17:47] and what options do you have on that ? [17:47] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] cause if you got 64bit PNP Option then pick it and move to a 64bit OS. problem should be then solved [17:48] it doesn't.. OTHER/Windows95/98/2000/XP [17:48] Night [17:48] trying OTHER.. [17:49] illuz1oN: l8rdude [17:49] imagine that ... 8-) [17:49] was on XP.. [17:49] and how old is this machine? [17:49] xp isn't pae saavy, is it? [17:49] uh 2 1/2 years.. [17:49] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] last bios rev was Jun/2007 [17:50] its not too old [17:50] chip is a T7200 [17:50] bitch to the laptop manu. go hey people I have a 64bit laptop and I want a bios that can do 64bit [17:50] It's a Gateway btw.. [17:51] bitch to Gateway. go hey people I have a 64bit laptop and I want a bios that can do 64bit [17:51] I'm going to try new ram first and if that doesn't work that's really my only option.. [17:52] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [17:52] again a fiver that new ram does not help [17:52] can i make this better than mesa 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [17:53] xgen, ? [17:53] panzer: I just want to eliminate the possiblity that it's faulty ram.. which I'm not sure if it is.. as memtest has sporadically reported errors with it.. which may or may not be related to the inability to see all 4 gig.. [17:53] does it have any 3d capabilities or is it just software mesagl [17:56] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [17:57] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:59] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Giant meat eating plants have been discovered eh? [18:02] Any flower that eats rats is a BADASS flower. [18:02] lol [18:02] eviljames: that'd be fun to watch. :) [18:02] lol [18:02] it's like iceage 3 [18:02] gsan1 (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:03] linky ej [18:03] Fun like watching paint dry is fun, I'd bet it takes forever. [18:03] http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8195000/8195029.stm [18:03] Also, I'd say it probably doesn't eat many rats, more bugs. [18:03] but they definitely imply rats in the beeb article. [18:03] lol [18:03] it's out in the open [18:04] Looks like it digests from the outside in [18:04] interesting. [18:04] omfg lol in the philippines... [18:05] I have to grow one. I think this species needs to be introduced to Canada. [18:05] like a venus fly trap [18:05] Nick change: SQlvpapir_ -> SQlvpapir [18:05] archiebenedict (n=archie@adsl-69-224-93-67.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] lol [18:05] man, i stayed up all night working on my fist SlackBuilds and now i feel like crap... but it should be worth it [18:05] don't smoke any weed around it, you might piss it off [18:05] Necos: hahah I was thinking I shouldn't bring any vegetarians over to my house. [18:05] Necos: They may be meat that eats plants, but this plant eats meat! [18:06] eviljames: the Canadian rat catcher, nice. :P [18:06] If they come into contact with one another they might both explode like particle annihilation! [18:06] lol [18:06] xgen (n=xgen@75.138.78.87) left irc: "Leaving" [18:06] haha [18:06] KABOOM [18:07] that'd be great lol [18:07] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:08] I posted on fbook: "Hey vegetarians. Eating meat is so natural that even plants do it!" [18:08] now that would be fun to watch. :) [18:08] lol [18:08] ej, that's just... wrong... [18:09] I don't believe in vegetarianism. I think they're fools! [18:09] Then again, I used to butcher so perhaps I'm biased. [18:09] just a little... [18:10] james the bible says dont blame the man who eats nuts; and if you eat meat then doubly so. -- see Paul [18:10] the bible says a lot of things... don't believe the hype :P [18:10] Quiznos: Harry Potter eats meat. I find that to be just as applicable. [18:10] vegetarians are great on the grill with a little A-1 [18:11] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE716F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:11] if we didnt eat meat, we wouldnt be at the top of the food chain. all vegetarians are suicidal! [18:11] Action: eviljames is an Apex predator, and proud of it! [18:11] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:11] lol [18:11] eviljames ok, how about IOW; some of them dont like you either for what you eat; so you're both in error. [18:12] IOW? [18:12] archiebenedict (n=archie@adsl-69-224-93-67.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:12] mancha: different mobo and the lappy is back in business, for now anyway. :) [18:12] would a vegetarian eat a plant that eats meat? [18:12] hey fire, didn't know you had troubles but glad they're over [18:12] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:12] now that is the question [18:12] Quiznos: IOW? [18:13] what's with opera that it would mess with the line-height so that lines overlap? [18:13] eviljames =in other words [18:13] i'm a meat eater because i oppose the inhumane way they chop lettuce heads for salads [18:13] iceburg lettuce has no redeeming value [18:13] mancha: yeah, it was acting up again, freezing, beeping, etc. but hopefully that is for sure fixed now. [18:13] lol [18:13] Quiznos: I don't dislike a person based on what they eat, that's definitely vegetarian territory. I dislike the philosophy of vegetarianism, though. [18:14] eviljames then attack it for being another religion (carefully) [18:14] or disprove it. [18:14] or just fkng ignore it. [18:14] i don't think ej cares about all that work... [18:14] and neither should you ^_^ [18:14] Necos: Sir, you are correct. [18:14] I'm not interested in proving or disproving anyone's diet. [18:14] i figured as much [18:14] Quiznos: actually iceberg lettuce as about 1g of fiber per 72gs of material [18:14] my view of vegis-ists is biblically based. [18:15] My view of nothing is biblically based. [18:15] antiwire that might be, but im not a bunny. dark green leaves are much better internally. [18:15] they make your poop dark [18:15] lol [18:15] along with about 1g of protein per 72g of material too [18:15] they have req phytonutrients [18:16] necos, so what? [18:17] nothing [18:17] it's a statement of fact [18:17] dark foods make your poop dark >.> [18:17] you should read the crap in ##Opera; "Qt is OS level stuff" [18:18] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [18:18] Read? I'm illiterate, you insensitive clod! [18:18] >.> [18:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] omg i'm so sorry; here's some sign language: [18:18] Nick change: hackeron_ -> hackeron [18:18] ..!.. [18:18] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [18:18] :) [18:18] anyone else unable to access smtp.gmail.com right now? [18:18] hahah, saw that coming [18:19] Wescotte refused [18:20] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-167-130.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Quiznos, your finger only has one knuckle :P [18:20] they could be scanning our mail [18:20] yes [18:20] mutant [18:20] lol [18:20] all your mail are belong to GOOG [18:20] lol [18:20] two left tumbs too [18:20] it will all be indexed [18:20] I can send mail through gmail fine [18:20] well, It seems my hardware doesn't support >3gig and there is a class action setup against gateway on it as they 4gig option available at time of purchase.. fuck me! [18:21] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [18:21] wierdos in opera [18:21] Wescotte: no thanks... [18:21] wow ew [18:21] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: "I'm off here" [18:21] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:21] gmail doesn't like konqueror :( [18:22] teehee! my blackberry gets here tomorrow... [18:22] i want a palmpre!! [18:23] I'm helping a pretty girl tether her backberry to her laptop tonight [18:23] tonight eh? [18:23] make sure your tether stays protected >.> [18:23] tonight [18:23] What a romantic first date [18:23] that is stupid and illogical of gateway if they offer to sell you more ram than a PC can use on a PC offer [18:24] What's the 2nd date going to be? Ensuring she can look like a douchenozzle with one of those bluetooth headset dealies? [18:24] Pig_Pen: it's done all the time, and not just when it comes to computers [18:24] I don't use a bluetooth headset, nor does this girl [18:24] sounds like a lawsuit to me, or the very least some info being submitted to the BBB about it [18:25] she knows how to send txt messages and push the power button on her laptop [18:25] http://obamaisliterallyhitler.tumblr.com/ EPIC [18:26] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-39-183.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [18:26] >.> [18:26] Pig_Pen: It appears there is a class action for it.. I've sent an email to the law firm.. [18:27] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-167-130.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:27] good, i hope you sue the hell out of gateway, sends a message to OEMs to clean up their advertized offers and website options on PC sales [18:27] gateway is already down the tubes with MPC going the way of the 11 [18:28] Necos, i 'ave seen you [18:28] :p [18:28] now if the FCC would put the hammer down on all that damn misleading TV advertising [18:28] hmm the page says May 2007 this guy was finding all this out and has UPDATES about class action.. However they're not dated.. [18:28] Necos, being sleeping :p [18:28] Necos: MPC? [18:28] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Endormi/0004.gif [18:28] lool [18:29] lol ej [18:29] fredoslack is freaking me out again [18:29] lool [18:29] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-168-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:29] MPC was originally known as Micron [18:30] Necos: ah okay.. cuz I worked for an MPC as in Milwaukee PC and it was a local builder that went from 1 shop to about 30 in 6 years I was with the company.. [18:30] Micron PC made a lot of money before the coppermine came out, then they just sorta tanked [18:30] I just had a very bad thing happen. I'm not home right now and I forgot how many beers I have left in my fridge so I actually thought to ssh to home and ls fridge... [18:30] that is not cool. [18:31] lol [18:31] antiwire: just buy a 6er on the way home just incase :) [18:31] Wescotte: did the gateway website even mention how much ram your laptop was capable of supporting when you bought it? [18:31] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:31] antiwire: that the girl from the blind date the other night? :P [18:31] fire|bird: nope different one [18:32] antiwire: would be nice if that actually would work though. :) [18:32] Pig_Pen: It's been so long I can't recall but I'm PRETTY sure they had the option of 4gig when I bought it.. I went 2gig (1gig sticks) cuz it was soo damn expensive back then.. BUt pretty sure tehy had a 4gig option for like $600ish or more.. [18:32] Action: fire|bird fails again? [18:32] Necos: hysterical, eh? [18:33] That blind date was lame. she had to go and bring up database problems they have at work and I entered DARKLAND [18:33] that's sad ej [18:33] lol [18:33] if that lawsuit does not work out you could sell the RAM you can not use on Craigslist or ebay and at least get some of your money back from it [18:33] antiwire: Ah, that's in response to what I asked above. I didn't think you'd see that, the net was offline when I typed that. It must have sent it when the net came back on. :P [18:34] yeah [18:34] antiwire: yikes, that must have sucked then. :P [18:34] Necos: I thought it was funny, DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE WROTE A BOOK? HITLER! [18:34] °did he? [18:34] you're not supposed to talk about computer bullshit on dates but she initiated it. it sucked [18:34] antiwire: indeed, stuff like that shouldn't be brought up on a date. [18:35] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:35] antiwire: that shit makes me not want to work in IT [18:35] Pig_Pen: I just bought the ram the other day so I could probably return it.. it was cheap but that's not the point.. I'm pissed I have an x64 chip that won't work with > 3gig.. [18:35] Necos: exactly. [18:36] doesn't matter where you go... if anyone knows you work in IT, they ALWAYS have a fucking comp question... without fail [18:36] i would have excused myself to go to the bathroom or something and walked out on her leaving her in the restaurant alone to pay the bill [18:36] Necos: That's the story of my life. [18:36] Pig_Pen: I'm trying to use this notebook for a few months before I buy a new desktop.. I wanted to bump up the ram for After Effects because with 2gig it doesn't even use my 2nd core.. [18:36] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:36] Necos: I get phone calls on my cell phone of people asking me how to install a video card and shit. [18:36] story? no ej... that shit is a living, fire-breathing dragon that stands behind me everyday [18:36] Necos: yeah, how true. It's like that if you work in IT, that's all that people can talk about. Questions, questions, questions. [18:36] I'm going to just start telling people that I read other people's email for a living. that should stop the IT questions [18:37] haha [18:37] i stopped telling people i work in IT [18:37] i say "i work for a high school" [18:37] lol [18:37] "oh hi what do you do?" "i read everyones email" "uhh..." [18:37] lol [18:37] what a mis-matched piece of crap laptop, it wont use the second core because it can not support the ram neceessary to kick it in? damn gateway should go under [18:37] I'm just going to start billing everyone. [18:37] maybe some people will pay! [18:38] eviljames: that's a good idea. [18:38] eviljames: ass gas or cash...no one rides for free [18:38] eviljames, maybe you'll pay my bill, too? [18:38] :) [18:38] "I work in IT." "orly? i hav a q about databases" "That'll be $250 / hr" "No, its just a simple q!" "You misunderstand. I WORK in IT." [18:38] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-39-183.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] lol [18:38] eviljames: that right there sums it up [18:38] exactly ej [18:39] perfectly. [18:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.22) left irc: [18:39] I WORK you PAY [18:39] I've tried this strategy, it doesn't always work. [18:39] or dance [18:39] whatever [18:39] lap-* [18:39] ej, but you can at least get some head from it :P [18:39] Necos: I already have a full time employee for that. [18:39] mancha: Well, that one depends on the circumstances and who the person is. :P [18:39] i wonder what sort of asshat engineer worked on designing that laptop, they should be fired and not allowed to design any more [18:39] errr.. shit, this channel is publicly logged! [18:40] LOL [18:40] I've never received head for fixing a GD blackberry [18:40] evil, your reputation is shot [18:40] antiwire: step your game up bro [18:40] ^_^ [18:40] Pig_Pen: which laptop is that? [18:40] lol [18:40] that laptop of Wescotte [18:40] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:40] antiwire: Well, maybe tonight will change all that. :P [18:40] Necos: you summed up my thoughts to antiwire perfectly [18:40] oh well, he is gone [18:40] Necos: and calling gf an employee is guaranteed to get me in trouble :D [18:41] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] eviljames: Does she know where the logs are? [18:41] kde4.2 consumes too much memory :( [18:41] ej, no one will ever know ^_^ [18:41] fire|bird: she knows how to access a screen session :P [18:41] eviljames: It was very nice knowing you. :) [18:41] hahahah [18:41] hahaha [18:42] damn x locked up [18:42] hard [18:42] lol [18:42] Quiznos: It does that from time to time. [18:42] eviljames: you may want to chroot house && removepkg knives. :) [18:42] omfg, i farted and now it is hard to breathe in my office. [18:42] i hope nobody comes in here. [18:42] sucks [18:44] what have you been eating eviljames, beans? mexican food? [18:44] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:44] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-186-120-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [18:44] Pig_Pen: a strict diet of steak & whiskey. [18:45] that will do it [18:45] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-3-224-75.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] he's been eating too much meat :P [18:47] stinky protein farts [18:47] apparently... [18:47] it's all the flora dying in his testines [18:47] and whiskey will make farts too so that does not help [18:48] eat some plain yogurt with live cultures! [18:48] or maybe ej is just a stinky bastard to begin with [18:49] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:49] Quiznos: today it's pretty hard to find yogurt without active/live cultures [18:49] stinky and evil [18:49] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Necos nah; read the gredients list. it's easy. [18:50] i'm lactose intolerant... the only yogurt i can eat is the ones with active cultures [18:50] k [18:50] i always read the ingredient lists :P [18:50] even the cheap-ass yogurt has active cultures in it [18:51] there is beano its supposed to stop gas/farts [18:51] my guess is that ej is immune to beano lol [18:51] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] heh [18:51] You guess correctly. [18:51] ALL MUST SMELL MY FARTS. [18:51] lol [18:52] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] good thing i don't live in .ca [18:53] Biggest Meteor Shower of the Year Peaks Tonight [18:53] yea, i'm psyched [18:53] a two parter too [18:53] hmmm, maybe i should break out the tripod and try to get some shots from the D50 [18:53] I hadn't been paying attention to that, but I live in a city with a lot of light pollution, so i won't get to see anything :( [18:54] bummer; still you should go out and check [18:54] I plan to. [18:54] 0100EST and 0400EST [18:54] 1am and just before dawn, i will miss the 1am shower, but i will catch the before dawn shower, i always been a early riser [18:55] where should i be looking for the -rites? [18:55] in the sky [18:55] not on your toilet seat [18:55] It's ok, I'm not too worried about missing it.. [18:55] I don't shower much anyway [18:55] which direction? [18:56] lol [18:56] which constellation? [18:56] i bet eviljames takes bubblebaths since he farts a lot [18:57] Quiznos : up [18:57] Pig_Pen: Well, they aren't intentionally bubble baths [18:57] but it's kinda like having a natural jacuzzi [18:57] come on, guys; gime a fking answer pls? [18:57] nm [18:57] ananke gave you the best possible answer. [18:58] i;m in no mood atm [18:58] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:58] http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/08/090811-perseid-meteor-shower-tonight.html Quiznos [18:58] lol [18:58] whoa, that was a hardcore spazz-out. [18:58] i would imagine you would have to be blind to miss it unless the sky is clowdy or filled with light pollution [19:00] below pisces and below ursa major, in the sky [19:00] er, above pisces [19:00] he could have just gone to the nasa website >.> [19:00] I've had ground fog where I live for the past 3 days straight [19:00] the Sun and Moon have not shown [19:03] ferrari & lambo are going to start making hybrids [19:03] Action: eviljames wants [19:03] hahahaha [19:03] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-27-51-250.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] hybrids are stupid for those models [19:04] i would like to have one of those Tesla electric cars [19:04] Pig_Pen: agreed. [19:04] Tesla just made its first profits, reported $1,000,000 on their earnings [19:04] lol [19:05] with my income i will have to settle for a golf cart [19:05] tesla will tank soon enough tho :P [19:05] That's not a "lol" that's a fscking awesome thing. [19:05] A profitable electric car company qualifies for $430,000,000 in government secured financing & grants. [19:05] ie: a fuckton to invest in R&D so that they aren't limited to 120 mile range [19:05] Tesla isn't going anywhere, dude. They are the car of the future. bank on it. [19:05] 430 mil? [19:06] are you serious? [19:06] In the stimulus budget put forward this year, they earmarked $2,400,000,000 for electric car research & development. [19:06] except they're gonna keep burning coal to make electricity >.> [19:07] again, false. [19:07] that was sarcasm ej [19:07] heh [19:07] nuclear energy [19:07] Nuclear is the way to go, for sure. [19:07] nuclear is the NIMBY method tho... [19:07] but there's as much money in this year's budget earmarked for cleaner energy [19:07] i would hope so [19:08] nothing like a hot batch of rods [19:08] approximately, anywho, the same amount of money as has ever been budget for it in all of American history combined. [19:08] now that is interesting [19:08] Yeah, well, if the scare monger media weren't so busy talking about chernobyl and focused on places that have working nuclear energy programs it would be a different story. [19:08] wind and solar cant to it 100% [19:08] Pig_Pen: No, but wind+solar+hydro+nuclear certainly can, and with FAR less pollution. [19:09] yup [19:09] We, as a people, have the technologies to solve this problem. We are choosing not to in order to maintain the profit margins of already wealthy businesses. [19:09] hydro & nuclear is what should be the main focus on though [19:09] except that we only have so much of that too (nuclear material) [19:10] Where I live, 95+% of electricity is generated via hydro. [19:10] oh, look, a little googling tells me that there is also $1.5 Billion earmarked for better battery technology. That may or may not be within the aforementioned 2.4 for electric cars. [19:11] Necos: The material isn't as important as the process, though. That we may have a finite supply of Uranium or whichever material isn't particularly relevant to the question, imho. [19:12] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] it will be eventually... same as fossil fuels [19:13] ilyas (n=ilyas@adsl-186-120-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:15] whoever figures out how to cheaply crack water in to its atomic components (hydrogen & oxygen) and do it cheaply will own the world by its balls [19:16] or at least be very rich [19:16] Pig_Pen: get crackin then. :P [19:16] It's already cheap. [19:16] The problem isn't cost - all you have to do is run an electric current through water, and capture the particles coming off the anode & cathode [19:17] The problem is energy density iirc. [19:17] i am aware of that process, its the doing it cheaply part, maybe solar & wind to put electric in to it [19:18] that is sort of like electronic reverse osmosis (almost) [19:18] yeah, it's very low :P [19:18] Sort of, I guess.. what purpose are we splitting h2o apart for? [19:19] to put it back together and release energy? [19:19] hydrogen for cars & trucks & air planes [19:19] ahh, I see what you're saying. [19:19] did you see the mythbusters ep when they recreated the hindenburg? [19:20] The problem there is that burning fuel is wasteful. [19:20] Gasoline is extremely energy dense - when you burn it only ~ 6-10% of that energy ACTUALLY turns the wheels of the car. [19:20] So when I say extremely energy dense, I really mean EXTREMELY. [19:21] most is wasted as heat, and some cars are worse, ever been behind a crappy car that smelled of unburned gasoline? [19:22] yeah terrible [19:22] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] all you have to do is learn the carnot cycle... no engine can ever be more efficient than that... [19:24] Right, we just have to work around that. [19:25] hm. I learn something new every day. "screen -D" sucks, is what I learned today [19:25] Urchlay: how so? [19:25] i learned one really important thing in thermodynamics... people are stupid because they think there's such a thing as a perfectly efficient engine [19:26] heh [19:26] -D means "detach and logout remote session"... which is why my xterms kept disappearing [19:26] lol [19:26] Urchlay: oh, just use -d instead [19:26] yeah [19:26] you're supposed to use -dR :P [19:27] Necos: be that as it may, the move to electric vehicles pretty much has to happen. It doesn't work for 18-wheelers or superBs or anything like that [19:27] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] but for day-to-day commuting (the majority of individual travel) burning gasoline is a disgustingly wasteful process [19:27] yeah, thank OPEC for that one... [19:28] There are uses for oil & petroleum in our society, I just don't think that burning it is the best use :P [19:29] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] who got the Canadian going on OPEC? come on guys. wtf [19:29] we all know not to talk about oil with Canadians [19:30] Yeah, because if we shut off the taps America is in trouble ;P [19:30] i'm not canadian you insensitive clod [19:30] :P [19:30] Action: eviljames lives in the country that America buys more oil from than any other. [19:30] Necos: you wish you were Canadian! [19:31] let me think about that... [19:31] 1... 2... 3... nope! [19:32] Deny it all you like. I can see into your soul. [19:32] The Shadow knows! [19:32] irc soul seeing? wow. [19:32] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] stop looking at his soul's penis [19:32] >.> [19:32] i'm a buddhist... leave that christian magic at home [19:33] Yeah, buddhist souls don't have penii [19:33] i want to move to BC or Yukon [19:33] Pig_Pen: I live in BC [19:33] on the coast? [19:33] eviljames, so you live in a hat? [19:33] yessir. [19:33] eviljames, americans are dumber than canadians [19:33] edman007: I live in an igloo [19:34] jeev, nonsense, we just have louder idiots [19:34] i would spend all my free time fishing for salmon and halibut [19:34] you know what edman007, you're right.. i forgot to include you [19:34] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-66-24.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] ++edman007; The idiots are certainly here, we just demand that they be nice. [19:34] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:34] lol [19:34] Pig_Pen: Halibut are boring fishing, and super easy to limit-out on. [19:34] y0 lf4 [19:35] lol [19:35] but it is free food!!! [19:35] Pig_Pen: It's like dragging up a (50lb) boot. [19:35] hey fire|bird [19:35] fire|bird: Hows it going? [19:35] lf4: doing excellent, thanks. you? [19:36] i buy a lottery ticket every week, i told my wife if i win i am moving the the west coast of canada, she can come if she wants but i am not staying in the USA if i win millions [19:36] ejm (n=ezra@75-174-113-67.bois.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Pig_Pen, i hope you win [19:37] i will search google earth for a sleepy fishing village on the west coast of BC [19:37] spend my days fishing [19:37] I'm doing well figure out my proglem with this old PC :P lol stupid reason, forgot to set the HDD to single (it was on master). [19:37] Pig_Pen: http://imgur.com/ZTKUd 45lb Halibut [19:37] fire|bird: did you figure out the imageing yet? [19:37] Pig_Pen, you will be just like every other person who wins and lose it all in vegas [19:38] yeah! thats what i am talking about [19:38] hackedhead (i=1000@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [19:38] Pig_Pen: my brother-in-law holding it is a pretty big boy, too so the scale is weird. [19:38] Pig_Pen: The fish was bigger than it looks :P [19:38] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] lf4: nope, lappy was acting up again today, switched mobo in it today and it's working well, for now anyway. So imaging work can commence. [19:38] i bet it is like a small cow calf [19:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:39] Pig_Pen: but like I say, those were no fun... you just drag them from ~250 ft down right up to the side of the boat & gaffe it. [19:39] haha fire|bird you just happen to have a laptop mobo lying around? [19:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] lf4: nope, but a family member did and just happened to be coming this way anyway, so.... :) [19:39] well if you want a fish to put up a fight then you use a roostertail on a barracuda [19:39] Pig_Pen: A good spring salmon will get hooked and then run. [19:40] fire|bird: Nice :) [19:40] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] and Halibut are _delicious_ [19:40] i bet those salmon are tasty [19:40] Pig_Pen, maybe when you win you could hire a hot ass chick to peel your potatos [19:41] Pig_Pen: I had a 30lb salmon sliced into steaks. bbq all summer :D very tasty indeed. [19:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] you betcha, i would have me some fine girls peeling taters right on the boat wearing bikinis [19:41] eviljames: damn you :) [19:41] do you guys know of a better alternative to htop ? [19:41] Pig_Pen is the only american non-dick in here [19:41] so i really hope he wins [19:41] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [19:41] or is one of the only [19:41] deco: whats wrong with htop? [19:41] BP{k}: my laptop lives, yet again, different mobo now. :) [19:42] Pig_Pen: BP{k}: http://imgur.com/zN4YN [19:42] lf4: well instead of showing lets say 67M for amarok it divides it into smallers parts like 9mb 9 times for example [19:42] lol there is an actual ##slackware IRC group on facebook? lol [19:43] Pig_Pen: That was one MORNING of fishing. [19:43] Pig_Pen: 3 guys in the boat. [19:43] throwing back anything that was less than 25 lbs [19:43] deco: Ahh that would be cool [19:43] sweet! you ever catch tuna? preferably yellowtail [19:43] Pig_Pen: Nope, but I won't rest until I do! [19:43] lf4: kde4's system monitor shows that :P but i want a cli app that will do the same [19:44] deco: Yeah :) I prefer cli apps as well. [19:44] deco: I was going to suggest prstat, but then I realized it was a solaris thing :P [19:44] eviljames: oh no thanks :P [19:44] when i was living in san diego i always liked catching a large tuna, (does not happen often) when i get back on shore people would offer me a couple of hundred dollars for it [19:45] How big does tuna get? [19:45] lf4: yeah same here :D [19:45] i seen tuna get to be about 60 pounds [19:45] nice! [19:45] 40 to 50 is average [19:45] TClayton (n=TClayton@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] you better have a damn good rod & reel & line [19:46] renatosrabelo1 (n=renato@bhe201062152086.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:46] hahaha *snap*! [19:46] hmmmm, i gotta tell this guy that his laptop isn't gonna be ready by thursday... oh well... [19:47] what does shared memory mean ? [19:48] deco: graphics and system used the same RAM [19:48] lf4: ah ok thanks [19:50] deco : what's the context? [19:50] ananke: on system monitor i see a memory and shared memory collum [19:50] and graphics/system using the same ram is not the most common one :) [19:50] ananke: amarok is showing 55mb of shared memory [19:50] ananke: for laptops it is [19:50] im runninga laptop [19:50] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.194.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] deco : think libraries. multiple programs can use the same set of functions, which get loaded once into memory and then they're 'shared' [19:51] lf4 : it's not [19:51] ananke: oh wow thanks makes sense lol :D [19:51] rhys, yuou're really on dialup ? [19:51] ananke: :) good to know I only knew it as that. [19:51] :-( [19:51] Yes. [19:51] dayum [19:52] deco : it allows for much more efficient use of your resources, both in terms of ram and filesystem [19:52] Time Warner to this day and for the past 5 years has refused to hook up cable to a NMEA box, and let me pay 200$ to cover the last 1000 meters via point to point wifi. [19:52] dam [19:53] maybe you shojuld talk to their residential people [19:53] i mean business [19:53] rhys: you poor bastard. [19:53] rhys: Thats how it was for me in upstate NY. They said it would cost us $6k to run cable to my house. [19:53] Each point a overpowered DDWRT linksys router with a pigtail to a 24dBi 6degree parabolic antenna. little over 100$ a piece. [19:53] rhys: And what's stopping you from actually doing this? [19:53] lf4: I own a diesel trencher. I know a guy who would lay the last mile. They won't hook it up. [19:54] rhys: Thats dumb. [19:54] rhys, have him lay it [19:54] eviljames: no one will hook it up. There is TW cable and Verizon DSL. We are out of range of both. [19:54] once it's in position, the will hook it up' [19:54] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.31) left irc: Connection timed out [19:54] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:55] hrm....afk [19:55] jeev: I get the same shit every time. They won't even speak to me. I've sent emails to the regional director in columbus, called and "left a message." Never got a single reply. [19:55] thank god [19:55] rhys, bbb.org [19:55] file a complaint [19:56] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] i'm sorry but i'd move if i couldn't get high speed [19:56] jeev: i will mention I'm only here temporarily. This is the parental's house. The grandchildren under their care need highspeed, or will in a few months. [19:57] bbb.org couldn't care less [19:57] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:57] ananke: why do you say that? [19:58] I was hoping with the new stimulus money for rural broadband being tossed out like mad, they would run cable out here. [19:58] rhys : because that doesn't fall under the type of complaints they deal with. [19:58] rhys: They don't have to offer you their services if you are not paying them. [19:58] rhys, will take too long [19:58] true. I just have bent over backwards to make so they don't have to do a damn thing. [19:59] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:59] They come out, give me the end of the coxial. I can get a modem off ebay. But no. "It must be a residential address." Not a place the owners have let me rent. [20:00] have actually, they are old friends. [20:00] ahh [20:00] so find people with service and PTP it yourself [20:01] They don't have service. Yea. I thought of that. [20:02] They don't want it. But said no problem to me putting up a ten foot pole with an antenna [20:02] sucks [20:03] Indeed. But like I said, I leave. It just kinda bugs me I have to send a DVD of the MTSS for my step mum to use, and more and more assignments for the kids school involve "look this up online" [20:03] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] because honestly, everyone does have internet. But when "look this up online" is a youtube video? .. [20:03] goddamn, toshiba is dumb >.> [20:04] Necos: their driver page mess? [20:04] necos, yes [20:04] rhys, yes also [20:04] internet needs to be fast [20:04] consider satellite ? [20:04] satelite ? [20:04] whatever it is [20:05] 99$ a month for 12 months, then 120$ a month. last time i checked [20:05] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@229.sub-97-48-212.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [20:05] not even... this battery recall thing [20:05] WtfNiff (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] even if it was in the price range the parentals could afford (pops is retired) the 3 second delay is annoying as hell. [20:06] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@229.sub-97-48-212.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:06] one of the teachers brought me a laptop that won't turn on... the battery won't charge [20:06] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Necos... i'll fix it for you [20:07] rhys: lol you should start a BBS :D [20:07] i'll fix it too.. with a hammer [20:07] blaise (i=blaise@unaffiliated/blaise) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Necos: get a volt meter and check the charger to see if it is puting out voltage on the laptop side [20:07] uhrm, does slackware still have ftp install floppy images? [20:08] lf4: considering my 5 v92 modems, I should. I was actually planning to use them for home automation. Call the house, touch tone in. [20:08] blaise : nope [20:08] which was my first thought, 'cept i don't have a voltmeter [20:08] ananke: why not? [20:08] use a DC lightbulb [20:08] blaise : try fitting 2.6 kernel on a floppy [20:08] rhys: I have thought about that as well but I don't have a phone line anymore. [20:08] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.198.217) joined ##slackware. [20:08] ananke: I have.. [20:09] blaise : now, welcome to 2009. any other questions 'why not'? [20:09] rhys, you'd need 5 lines, no ? [20:09] ananke: becuase I don't feel like downloading a dvd [20:09] lf4: yea, me neither. funny thing. [20:09] Action: lf4 used a floppy today for the first time in years. [20:09] blaise : then download the cd. [20:09] hackedhead (i=1000@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] rhys: lol yeah everyone seems to be going fully wirelessly :) [20:10] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] ananke: so it doesn't require all 6 cd's? [20:10] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:10] blaise : just the first one to get you started. you can download the rest [20:10] blaise: you only need the first 2 really but first 3 are full [20:10] jeev: i wouldn't use all the modems. but yea. [20:10] blaise: no. cd's 4-6 containts the source. and what ananke sais. [20:11] l [20:11] k [20:11] thanks [20:11] BP{k}: doesn't 2 have series Y? [20:11] and seriously, don't tell me you can fit a generic enough 2.6 kernel on a floppy. [20:11] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@pool-96-228-123-229.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] I take it there are no slackware torrents? [20:11] slackware.com/torrents [20:11] blaise: There are [20:11] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:12] blaise, there are [20:12] seriously, actually look before you make dumb remarks [20:12] hrmm [20:12] lf4: yes it does, what does this have to do with anything? [20:12] http://www.google.com/search?q=slackware+torrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [20:12] first hit [20:12] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night"). [20:13] BP{k}: Not much since you don't need Y at all ever really. :) [20:13] blaise: Slackware != Ubuntu, you will have to do some work yourself. [20:13] Action: jeev kicks thrice`s face in with a steel toe boot [20:14] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [20:14] your scrawny legs couldn't lift those boots jeev [20:14] Hahaha [20:14] yea right [20:14] i have everything but chicken legs [20:15] ok, then your fat-ass legs couldn't lift off the ground [20:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] I'm on Time Warners live chat. The first person escalated me in under 30 seconds. [20:15] jeev: has elephantitis legs. [20:15] The second one in 2 minutes. [20:16] rhys: you should just find out the CEO's phone number and call them directly. [20:16] Action: jeev runs his hands through thrice`'s mullet [20:16] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:16] :D [20:16] lf4: thats a damn good idea actually. [20:16] Call them once a day [20:17] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:17] rez [20:17] rhys: lol yeah but one call will get them to pay attention. [20:28] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-253.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:28] How would I get Jeffery Bewkes phone number? [20:30] 411? [20:31] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] Somehow doubt it. [20:31] greetings and salutations [20:31] And google doesn't seem to like regex to search for phone number pattersn [20:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] could not open default font 'fixed' [20:33] Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' [20:33] what am i missing package wise? ;/ [20:33] oldie? [20:33] goodie? [20:33] acidchild: sounds pretty old [20:34] Slackware 12.2.0 [20:34] on my linode. [20:34] its looking in the wrong dir, what program? [20:34] vncserver [20:34] starting X... i guess on a headless box for VNC [20:34] i just installed x/* [20:35] nothing uses /usr/X11R6 these days [20:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] renatosrabelo1 (n=renato@bhe201062152086.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [20:35] just comment that font line out of x.org? [20:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:35] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.194.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [20:36] open up vncserver and look for the lines starting $fontpath [20:37] why is tightvnc looking there? [20:37] another config [20:37] yah... [20:37] okay fix hose to be /usr/share/whatever [20:38] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ISYXyA54.html [20:38] then look for $colorPath and point it to your rgb i.e. /usr/share/rgb [20:38] vnc doesn't seem to have a config ;/ *looks* [20:38] oh its a perl script, i get you [20:38] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] thanks mancha [20:39] welcome [20:39] why was I forwarded to ##slackware? [20:40] eh, what were you trying to join? there is no #slackware with only one # [20:41] hrmm [20:41] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [20:41] actually this is a secret hacking channel [20:41] mancha: i dont have the rgb folder, should i? [20:41] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) left ##slackware. [20:41] dakarn: lucky you, your quote was not approved. :P [20:41] shhh dchmelik you're not to tell anyone ;) [20:42] use this line: $colorPath = "/usr/share/X11/rgb"; [20:42] dchmelik: yeah, right.. [20:42] agentc0re: whats the quote? [20:42] like #2600 on efnet eh? [20:42] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] lol [20:42] blaise : because there is no official slackware channel on freenode [20:42] that points to your rgb.txt, but type it exactly as i did (no .txt) [20:42] ananke: ah, nice.. [20:43] lf4: just dakarn saying he's a noob. figured it belonged there :P [20:43] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:43] like #2600 and #hack on Efnet [20:43] agentc0re: lol oh [20:46] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) got netsplit. [20:46] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got netsplit. [20:46] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) got netsplit. 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[20:51] Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script. [20:51] rworkman: wasn't sure. [20:51] did you use the one i gave? [20:51] yep [20:51] and them fonts are there. [20:51] rworkman: it should, but does it? [20:51] okay, comment out the other fontpath line the one with 7100 [20:51] add in a hash mark in front [20:51] rworkman: from logrotate.conf: # some packages install log rotation information in this directory: [20:51] include /etc/logrotate.d [20:51] rworkman: seems it would include all files [20:51] mancha: 7100? [20:51] look for the line $fontPath = "unix/:7100"; [20:52] add ina hashmark ("#") in front of it [20:52] i dont have it :-) [20:52] jumperboy: look at the source directory - there's a diff that we apply: [20:52] -static char *defTabooExts[] = { ".rpmsave", ".rpmorig", "~", ",v", [20:52] +static char *defTabooExts[] = { ".new", ".rpmsave", ".rpmorig", "~", ",v", [20:52] look again :) [20:52] no i dont. 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[21:03] mkeil (i=marcel@juniper.main.us-dialin.net) returned to ##slackware. [21:03] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a5a9d6.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:03] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a5a9d6.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:03] lf4: although, dial-up would probably actually work. :P [21:03] fire|bird: haha true dial > then a borked connection. [21:03] lol [21:03] acid, i'll provide my paypal acct in PM [21:03] j/k [21:04] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:04] mancha: your kidding? so you're going to provide it in here :D [21:04] init[1] (i=buffer@bnc2.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [21:04] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest11324 [21:04] heh, i'd have to create one first - and i won't ever do that [21:05] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [21:05] mancha: Awe why not? :P [21:05] lf4: 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) <-- My lappy's wifi card. [21:05] I'm trying to get 1440x940 for my widescreen monitor but it's not happening... [21:06] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) got lost in the net-split. [21:06] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [21:06] BP{k}_ (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [21:06] fire|bird: eww a broadcom [21:06] nsp: xrandr does tell you that you have that resolution? [21:06] mancha: ;P that make u a ho [21:06] lf4: :(, know if support for it is good? [21:06] u dont wana be no ho [21:06] fire, what driver are you using? [21:07] higuita: No, it doesn't [21:07] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:07] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns2-tic-C8B11B61.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [21:07] mancha: I'm not using the wifi right now, so not using a driver for it, unless sabayon loaded one. I'm on a live cd atm. [21:07] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] b43 has improved by leaps and bounds, you'll prolly get joy from that card, nevermind that broadcom is evil and the ceo is in san quentin [21:07] 1024x768 is top of the list with 832x624 below that. [21:08] fire|bird: ah sabayon the first distro that got me hooked :P [21:08] mancha: hahaha [21:08] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [21:08] deco: they still make an amazing distro, but it's no slackware. :P [21:08] mancha: really? b43 has improved? I'll have to test it out with my old laptop. [21:08] yes, the fella who put that driver together has fixed it uop quite well [21:09] <|lestat|> Do anyone know how to configure the global double clicking behavior at the system? like: double click over a URL in a xterm should select the whole URL instead of a word [21:09] mancha: I'll be getting slack64 on here eventually, I want to get an image working first though. [21:09] nsp: that tells me that your monitor isnt being correctly configure/detect by the card or you need to manually add the resolution [21:09] fire|bird: :P I havven't tried it in ages...i don't gonna stick to slackware for life :P [21:09] it still uses proprietary firmware, of course, but that's par for the broadcom course [21:09] WtfNiff (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:09] fire|bird: i mean i don't care , gonna stick to slackware for life :P [21:09] fire|bird: lol I just remember having to use the linksys drivers with a wrapper to get my broadcom chip to work but that was years ago. [21:09] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] deco: nice [21:09] what's the most supported wirless card by linux ? [21:10] atheros is nice [21:10] athos are good [21:10] so iif i plug a atheros card it will work out of the box ? [21:10] s/athos/stheros/ [21:10] blah I'm going to quit now I cant type :P [21:10] atheros [21:10] there's a5k and a9k in the kernel now, not sure how mature they are [21:10] deco: sorta... [21:11] Action: fire|bird hands lf4 a dictionary and spell checker. [21:11] lol [21:11] greetings andarius, how's it going? [21:11] <|lestat|> any kind soul to help me with the mouse behavior? [21:11] salutations fire|bird, thing are good. you ? [21:11] Action: lf4 needs to learn to read before he can use the new dictionary and spellchecker. [21:11] there's also madwifi which is mature but also somewhat confused [21:11] andarius: doing excellent, hopefully got the lappy working for good now. :P [21:12] madwifi has been good for me. [21:12] i meant the development process is confused, the driver is solid [21:12] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-184-8.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "leaving" [21:12] fire|bird: what was the fix? [21:12] mancha: oh ok [21:12] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] upyr[emacs] (n=user@194.9.231.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] I'm running Driver "intel" [21:13] the a modules will replace madwifi at some point i think [21:13] Action: fire|bird sends lf4 to Hooked on Phonics. :D [21:13] intel has solid support and they're linux friendly so is hrmmm forgot the name r* [21:13] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: [21:13] Guest16632 (i=buffer@bnc2.shellium.org) left irc: Connection timed out [21:13] But dojn't know how to set resolution to 1440x940 [21:13] fire|bird: been there, didn't help :P [21:13] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [21:13] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-1-60.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [21:13] fire|bird: been there, didn't help :P [21:14] ARGH, this connection is absolutely horrible. :( [21:14] lf4: :P [21:14] |lestat| (n=pescotap@dl-lns2-tic-C8B11B61.dynamic.dialterra.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] haha i know you got dc'ed right when I sent you a message. [21:14] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:14] Action: fire|bird steals lf4's connection. :D [21:15] Action: lf4 smiles... streaming music, running a web script and on irc.. my connection is alright (not the best though). [21:15] lf4: what type of connection do you have? [21:15] fire|bird: Comcast [21:15] lf4: Well, at least your connection works. :/ [21:16] going to restart X [21:16] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:16] What could have happened with mine, outside, where the tech cut the cable to check the signal out there, it's just connected together now the two pieces and one time, it got rusted out, maybe that's happened again. [21:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:17] You'd think they could protect that somehow so that doesn't happen, but they don't. :P [21:17] fire|bird: wow that stinks [21:17] fire|bird: its called electrical tape :P [21:18] next time hand them some haha thats a slap in the face. [21:18] lf4: lol, yeah, I should. :P [21:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [21:19] for outdoors weather tight shrink wrap is a better idea :P [21:19] andarius: yeah, and apparently, Mr. Technician doesn't have any. :P [21:19] Anyone know how well does VMware server runs compared to VirtualBox? [21:19] qemu ftw!!!! :D [21:20] fire|bird: lol why qemu? [21:20] fire|bird: of course not, had he been a smart tech he would not have cut into the cable in the first place ;) [21:20] andarius: yeah, no doubt. [21:20] lf4: I just like qemu better, it is nicer, runs from cli, and is faster, especially with kqemu :D [21:21] better then VMware or Vbox? lol didnt you use to run Vbox? [21:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [21:21] i want to set up a walled garden wifi [21:21] I used to, yes. [21:21] when i do uptime, it shows at 4 users, but when i do who i only see 3 people, whats going on? [21:21] missyjane: you haz ghosts. :) [21:22] missyjane: ghosts [21:22] missyjane, is one process screened maybe ? [21:22] or something screened [21:22] darn fire|bird lol you beat me to it [21:22] lf4: too late. :D [21:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:22] lf4: better speed that typing up. [21:22] i dont understand, what cna i do then? [21:22] missyjane: have you tried rebooting 3 times? [21:23] lf4, no [21:23] 3 times, lol. One for each person? [21:23] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] fukhed (i=shthed@203-59-206-34.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [21:24] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [21:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [21:24] fire|bird: no... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAuLqaLGvZU [21:25] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [21:25] lf4: well, I'm on a live cd with no flash. thanks you insensitive clod. :P [21:25] haha ;) [21:26] fire|bird: just apt-get install flash :P haha [21:26] so is it anything to worry about? [21:27] lf4: OHGODWHY???? [21:27] could missyjane's problem be another account for services? [21:27] this is sabayon, not Big Brown man. :P [21:27] fire|bird: you asked for it. Big Brown man? lol [21:27] Big Brown = Ubuntu :D [21:28] man is a separate word, hence the space. :) [21:28] better yet, pfexec pkg install flash [21:28] lf4, hm? [21:28] eviljames: osol \o/ [21:28] hehe if I have to use gnome, I'll use that :D [21:28] eviljames: keep bringing that up and I'll end up dual booting this lappy. :P [21:30] solaris isn't dead yet? [21:30] whats wrong with solaris? [21:31] thrice`: nope [21:31] thrice`: you want it to be? [21:31] missyjane: how many users does top report? [21:32] fire|bird: I just figured it's death was inevitable with the buy-out [21:32] 5 users now [21:32] missyjane: forget that stupid question lol top uses uptime [21:32] lol [21:32] thrice`: Ah, nope, not yet anyway. :P [21:32] lol missyjane's ghosts are multiplying [21:32] missyjane: open up 10 more terminals, and then run "who" [21:33] 5 users now. You haz phantoms of the pc. :) [21:33] time to make the coffee for tonight [21:33] too bad there's no donut place nearby [21:33] the ghost in the machine [21:33] pts/5 2009-08-11 21:33 (:0.0 [21:33] T.T nooo [21:33] lemme close these then and open up superkaramba brb [21:33] missyjane: desktop pc? Open the case, a few midgets may run out. [21:34] haha [21:34] clown case [21:34] fire|bird, lol i wanna stab you [21:34] :( [21:34] just a suggestion, good grief. :P [21:35] stew just banned all dialup users from a domain [21:36] lf4: haha, clown case indeed. I wonder if the case has poke-a-dots and a water cannon on the front. :P [21:36] why are you guys making fun of me? :( [21:36] fire|bird polkadots [21:36] Haha fire|bird so I do a search for qemu and watch this video. Haha the first 13 seconds made me burst out laughing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCFDQF46H7E [21:36] We're not making fun of anyone. We're just joking around because that's how bored we are. :P [21:36] missyjane: We're not :) [21:37] Quiznos: lol, thanks. [21:37] fire|bird: how did you fix the laptop> [21:37] lf4: GAH, another youtube video? what is the matter with you. :P [21:37] thumbs: whole new mobo [21:37] thumbs: he got a new one :) [21:37] :( [21:37] thumbs: well, not brand new, but new to me. :P [21:37] fire|bird: interesting [21:37] close all windows, kill X, exit out of all consoles except for one (tty1) then check top [21:37] fire|bird: Here let me torrent it so you can down load it :/ [21:38] lf4: lol [21:38] thumbs: so, all is working fine now, for now anyway. :) [21:39] fire|bird: This video was so funny I'm tempted to favorite it haha and figure out what they guy is saying. [21:39] fire|bird: all fine except your internet connection. [21:40] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [21:40] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [21:40] wow; seriously cooler outside; wins open, AC off [21:41] fan in daWinder [21:41] cloudy too; duno if i'll see -ites tonight :( [21:41] lighning too [21:42] nachox : check this out: Sun enterprise E450 + E250 w/o hard drives - $125 (Blacksburg) [21:42] damn, speeding truck just went by [21:42] Quiznos: Well, just be glad it wasn't you driving the truck. :P [21:43] lf4: true :P [21:43] is it quicker to use UPGRADE.TXT or now slackpkg? [21:43] well, i once wanted to be OTR [21:43] OTR, off the record? :D [21:43] on the road [21:43] lol [21:43] fail [21:43] ah, that was my second guess. [21:43] bbiam [21:44] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] Hmm, the light went out for having the power cord connected, I'm guessing maybe that's the charging light. :P [21:45] fire|bird, new mobo helping? [21:45] s/mobo/moomoo/g [21:45] dive: oh yeah, working great now. I'm on the lappy right now. :) [21:46] nice [21:46] ananke, the small fridges :) those are servers from a time where noone cared about power consumption, they'd eat you alive these days. they are 12 years old [21:46] dive: don't have slack64 on there yet, but that will happen eventually. :P [21:46] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:46] hey nachox, how are you? [21:46] doing fine [21:47] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:47] fire|bird, what are you running atm? Live CD or Slack32? [21:47] dive: Sabayon Live CD [21:47] nachox : i know, i got a couple of e450's still running [21:47] what the heck is a sabayon? sounds like one of frank herbert's made-up fremen words... [21:47] nachox : it's just something i don't see often on craigslist [21:48] Urchlay : gentoo spin-off [21:48] Urchlay: It's a Linux distro based of gentoo [21:48] off [21:48] Urchlay: its a livecd [21:48] live DVD actually [21:48] ugh, gentoo's not flaky enough for you? [21:48] ananke, having a server for 12 years still doing a proper job says volumes about sun's hardware of that day [21:48] fire|bird: :P [21:48] lf4 : it's not only a livecd [21:49] Urchlay: Sabayon is quite nice actually, very nice artwork. It's the one that has music playing during bootup too, before X and whatnot starts. [21:49] ananke: yeah I know you can install it just like BT4 is not just a livecd :) [21:49] It can be installed to hdd. [21:49] today I had occasion to boot someone's winbox with an ubuntu CD, it ran for about 30 minutes, then semi-froze (mouse pointer still moved, but nothing else would happen) [21:49] nachox : more like 7 years. and anytime a part fails, we just remove it [drives, ram] [21:49] hehehe [21:49] in fact, one of them had a good dozen drives. we use those as replacement drives for some dell pe2650's [21:50] I suppose 256M of RAM isn't really enough for a live CD with GNOME [21:50] exit [21:50] Urchlay: no, probably not. This lappy has 512M ram and runs Sabayon KDE4 really nice. [21:51] mwnn (n=user@59.92.130.178) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [21:51] only reason was, I needed to boot the thing into a semi-useful OS and type "lsusb"... no idea how to to the equivalent in windows [21:52] anyone know of some good slackware wallpapers that go well with kde4? :P [21:52] er, and "lspci". The guy's complaint was "Diablo II won't run", reason being windows was using its generic VGA driver for his vid card... ugh [21:52] Urchlay: probably by downloading some program to search for that info and which subsequently sparks off the anti-virus detection. :P Unless Device Manager would give you the info you needed. [21:52] lol Urchlay was this at work? [21:53] deco: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/OxySlack?content=95700 for kdm [21:53] lf4: no, I couldn't stand to do windows plumbing for a living [21:53] this reminds me, i really should try kde 4.3 [21:53] eviljames: oh nice thanks:D [21:53] ananke: I've built it and have it on my slack desktop. It's very nice, a little faster even. [21:53] fire|bird: device mgr just said "unknown PCI device" for the vid card and "unknown USB device" for his wireless adaptor. I didn't see a way to get the PCI or USB IDs even [21:53] deco: np, i use that one on all my machines :D [21:54] fire|bird: but then, I don't use windows on a regular basis [21:54] eviljames: :D [21:54] Urchlay: Ah yeah, when there's no drivers or anything, then Device Manager is really useless. :P [21:54] fire|bird : yeah, i tried it for a total of 2 minutes today. i really need to sit down and see how well it works [21:54] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] fire|bird: is it safe to use kde4.3 on slackare current ? [21:54] ananke: One nice addition is on the desktop plasmoid, if you mouse over a folder, it brings up the contents of that folder right there for you to browse, click, etc. [21:55] nice [21:55] I have to remember how to tell SDRAM from DDR by looking at it... [21:55] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:55] deco: yeah, works great, you need to upgrade strigi, soprano, and akonadi first though. It took about 5-6 hours to build here. [21:55] ananke: The plasma air theme is a very nice improvement as well imo. [21:55] and there's other subtle ui improvements [21:55] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:56] Urchlay: http://www.google.com/search?q=Computer_hardware_poster_1_7_by_Sonic840 [21:56] Urchlay : i usually just use wikipedia for that [21:56] yeah [21:56] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.198.217) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:56] all I remember is, there's a little notch, which is in a slightly different place [21:57] sdram has two notches [21:57] SDRAM has 2 nothces with 3 groups, DDR has 1 and 2 :P [21:57] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:57] I can't believe anyone would sell someone a PC running windows XP with less than a gig of RAM. It ought to be a criminal offense... [21:57] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) got netsplit. [21:57] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [21:57] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) got netsplit. [21:57] _Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) got netsplit. [21:57] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) got netsplit. [21:57] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got netsplit. [21:57] hi people [21:57] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest76050 [21:57] that picture by sonic840 is good, it has almost everything, slots, cpus, ram, etc.. [21:57] hi Thom1 [21:57] test34: Thats awesome :) [21:58] i ought to print that for our helpdesk team [21:58] there's one PC in the living room here that literally *never* stops swapping, the entire time it's running [21:59] I ran XP in 128MB for nearly two years :P [21:59] Urchlay: SDram has two notches DDR from what I know has always had 1 [22:00] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:00] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) returned to ##slackware. [22:00] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) returned to ##slackware. [22:00] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) returned to ##slackware. [22:00] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:00] rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:00] sdram vs ddr is easy. ddr vs ddr2 is a bit more tricky: the notch is in slightly different place, and ddr2 pins are slightly denser. unless you compare them side by side, it's easy to mistake one for the other [22:01] LSD`: this thing runs some sort of antivirus and/or antispyware scanning stuff, and the users are naive enough that they can't just be trained to be properly paranoid [22:01] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] ananke: nothing I'm dealing with would be new enough to have DDR2 in it [22:01] eviljames: grrr it's not wanting to install on kde4.2 :( [22:02] fire|bird: thanks maybe ill give it a shot [22:02] deco: What are you doing to install it? [22:02] That kdm theme? [22:02] fire|bird: yeah [22:02] bbl [22:02] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [22:02] I just stole the background for xdm. Looks nice. [22:03] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) got lost in the net-split. [22:03] _Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) got lost in the net-split. [22:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) got lost in the net-split. [22:03] fire|bird: system-setttings-splashscreen-install theme file [22:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] configuration file could not be found [22:03] blah. I hate doing this kinda stuff, windows plumbing and maintenance on old pieces of crap [22:03] deco: It's not a splash screen :) [22:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:03] "Oh, my friend went to jail, so he gave me his old computer, can you get it online?" [22:04] http://xkcd.com/619/ [22:04] old [22:04] dive, some of us are behind the times. [22:04] Ä [22:04] hiptobecubic: lol [22:05] fire|bird: oh shooooooooo lol :P [22:05] It's not far off the mark either, heh [22:05] anyone familiar with using iwpriv? i'm trying to figure it out but it's not making any sense to me [22:06] i think i need to use it to get my wireless connection dhcp'ed [22:06] I haven't bothered with iwpriv since I ditched the RaLink card that needed it [22:06] wish i could ditch this card using a ralink chip [22:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] Chakravanti: you don't need iwpriv for dhcp [22:06] but i've no other way to set this box up [22:07] antiwire via command line? [22:07] dhcp is handled by dhcpcd under slackware. iwconfig and iwpriv are for the 80211 side of the setup along with WEP encryption [22:07] you connect the card to the AP using iwconfig and iwpriv and then use dhcpcd [22:07] deco: You need to extract it and move it to /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes and then edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc (The "Theme" line) and point it to the theme in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ that you want to use. [22:07] wpa_supplicant is probably easier to deal with [22:07] Unless they've fixed in in the latest drivers, you need iwpriv to send commands to the RaLink chip in order to get it to do anything. It's a PITA. [22:08] err [22:08] yeah but i'm not on slackware [22:08] ... [22:08] slackware won't boot in this box [22:08] Chakravanti: which ralink card/chip have you got? [22:08] I eventually ditched the RaLink for an Atheros [22:08] and the guys over in lfs are ignoring me [22:08] fire|bird: thank you! :D [22:08] deco: yw [22:08] Chakravanti : you're about to be ignored by this channel [22:08] fine [22:08] w/e [22:08] lol [22:08] dont help me [22:09] it's linux [22:09] but w/e [22:09] iwpriv and iwconfig are not for setting up layer 3 anyway [22:09] Chakravanti: but not slackware [22:09] i'll figure it out anyway [22:09] why won't slackware boot? [22:09] a/b 1/2 2/4 wtf/ever [22:09] kernel panic out of memory [22:09] Action: ananke notes yet another dumb invention of textspeak [22:10] how much ram? [22:10] it only has 32mb of ram [22:10] and you're doing, what with LFS? [22:10] ananke: huh? [22:10] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [22:10] just trying to get this wireless card connected [22:10] lf4 : i was commenting on Chakravanti's use of 'w/e' [22:10] Hi, where slackware stores the common .profile ? [22:10] 32 mb and lfs. now that's funny [22:10] do you know what LFS is? [22:10] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [22:10] i used LFS because i could get it booted and it had the kernel new enough to contain the driver [22:11] yes [22:11] arenics : /etc/profile.d/ directory, or /etc/profile [22:11] but tbh [22:11] ananke: ty [22:11] i think i could use any kernel [22:11] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:11] Nick change: Ignacio_ -> nachox [22:11] 32mb isn't enough for the installer's kernel, I don't think [22:11] enough for the kernel, not enough for the initrd [22:11] or, the busybox environment [22:11] because i had to manually disable the driver in the kernel and install the old legacy driver anyway because i found out that the new driver is buggy as fuck [22:12] if i can get and old version of slackware booted i imagine i could get the wirless working after the fact [22:12] what's the newest that will boot with 32mb ram? [22:12] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:13] thrice`, that's why i was trying this one [22:13] lfs [22:13] you don't want LFS [22:13] but apparently i don't even need a new kernel [22:13] 'old version' and 'wireless' are almost mutually exclusive [22:13] you want a distro aimed at really old crap [22:13] because the included driver doesn't work [22:14] yeah i need something like middle-version [22:14] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:14] Chakravanti: Why do you have a system with only 32MB yet has wifi? lol this old system I just got running doesn't support wifi and has more memory then that. [22:14] i find it interesting that there is a common perception that slackware caters to old crap [22:14] I can see why that is, but I can understand why Slackers can't [22:14] old enough to run on this computer (and manually stripped down during the installation) but still support wifi [22:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] fire|bird: yay it worked, looks so nice thanks again :D [22:15] well, many reviews i have read have talked about how slackware consistantly offers alternatives for system with low memory [22:15] deco: you're welcome [22:16] Chakravanti : 'low memory' for today's standards. that's more than 32MB [22:16] lf4 - because i happen to have this wireless usb stick and the box doesn't have an ethernet card, i could put one in but stringing a wire the the house to the router from the desired location is highly inconvenient [22:16] in this day and age, 128MB would be considered 'low' [22:16] yes [22:17] hey hitest [22:17] mouse wheel won't work to me, what do I have setup int xorg.conf to solve it ? [22:17] well i don' [22:17] ananke: i think anything less than 1GB of memory is low.. [22:17] y0 agentc0re [22:17] hi fire|bird:) how are you? [22:17] Chakravanti: might i suggest buy a stick of ram for it? you can get a 256mb for $15 [22:17] fire|bird: sup dude? [22:17] hitest: doing excellent, I'm on the lappy now. after switching mobo's today. :) [22:18] no, 256 mb for this box is about $35 (2x128@17ea) [22:18] agentc0re: Finally using the lappy, :P don't have slack64 on it yet, but that will happen eventually. :) [22:18] hitest: how are you? [22:18] i looked it up [22:18] Chakravanti: what type of ram? [22:18] I bought a 2GB stick for my thinkpad for $13 [22:18] fire|bird: cool. did you get the qemu image to work? [22:18] fire|bird: I am well. ty. having fun today, not doing much other than upgrading -current [22:18] thrice`: only $13? :O [22:18] agentc0re: no. :( [22:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:19] http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=eTower%20400i3 [22:19] agentc0re: I have a different idea though, will be trying it yet tonight too. :) [22:19] some types of memory is insanely cheap right now [22:20] they dont even have any sticks at crucial [22:20] andarius: 1G for this lappy (PC2700 333) is $24.99 [22:21] on special on newegg, I forget what it is regular price. [22:21] fire|bird: i bet you can use ddr 400. [22:21] Chakravanti : time to get rid of that ol' junk :) [22:21] ... [22:21] agentc0re: I think I probably could, just as long as I just use that one module or have 2 at the same speed. [22:21] i just got it >.> [22:21] the day you start shopping at antique stores for parts for your computer, it's time to give it up [22:21] I think I paid AUD$35 (~USD$29) each for the 2GB sticks I have in my lappy [22:21] it doesn't need to do much [22:22] just a few console apps [22:22] and this goddamn usb wifi card [22:22] with shitty drivers [22:22] fire|bird: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231045 [22:22] Chakravanti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146079 [22:22] _xtree (n=none@c-71-229-82-202.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] There [22:23] yeah i saw it for $18 somewhere else [22:23] agentc0re: sweet, thanks. [22:23] but i think [22:23] if i had money to buy shit [22:23] it would be a new computer [22:23] but if i did buy that new computer [22:24] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:24] i'd still use this one for exactly the same purpose [22:24] but i'm broke [22:24] and i have this computer [22:24] so i'm trying to make it work [22:24] WtfNiff (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [22:24] stop [22:24] pushing [22:24] enter [22:24] lol [22:24] Chakravanti: try pressing the enter key after every two words. [22:24] hmm, speaking of memory, i should check if i could upgrade this mac mini [22:24] s/pressing/not pressing/ [22:24] fire|bird: how much is in there now? could get two of those for 1G total if you have two slots. [22:24] w/e [22:25] i'll figure it out my goddamn self [22:25] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] k [22:25] YAY! [22:25] agentc0re: two 256M modules, can accept up to 2G. [22:25] fire|bird: cool. [22:25] lf4: ++ [22:27] what slackware uses for resample sounds at rate unsuported by sound card ? [22:27] _xtree (n=none@c-71-229-82-202.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving ..."). [22:27] jeez, Chakravanti was a cheeky fellow. [22:28] thumbs: lol no kidding [22:30] reprasing: what slackware uses for resampling sound at unsuported sound card rates ? [22:30] lf4: whoa, my connection has been on this entire time. [22:31] fire|bird: Woohoo! Ready for those youtube videos? ;) [22:31] lf4: I gotz no flash. :P [22:31] arenics : alsa. not just slackware [22:31] fire|bird: slackbuilds. [22:32] fire|bird: apt-get it ;) [22:32] thumbs: I'm on a Sabayon live dvd. [22:32] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:32] fire|bird: what the... [22:32] haha [22:32] sudo apt-get remove lf4. [22:32] BAH, permission denied [22:32] lol [22:32] Action: lf4 leaves [22:32] fire|bird: sorry to head that [22:32] ananke: ? [22:33] thumbs: I haven't got the hdd image working yet, so I'm not going to install slack64 yet. [22:33] arenics : $ [22:33] and a live dvd is better than windows. :P [22:33] fire|bird: you forgot I run a zombie as well };) [22:33] fire|bird: could have used slax. [22:33] fire|bird: slax has flash. [22:34] thumbs: heh, yeah, I could have. [22:34] more liek should have. [22:34] s/liek/like/ [22:34] thumbs: and, I'm sure slax has ff too. :P [22:34] g' nite all:) [22:34] night hitest [22:34] night hitest [22:34] dang it lf4 :P [22:34] fire|bird: it does. [22:34] haha ;) [22:35] nite lf4, fire|bird:) [22:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:35] thumbs: Hmm, interesting. :P [22:35] thumbs: and, slax can run from ram. [22:35] which makes it really, really, fast. [22:36] fire|bird: yeah. It's really really really really fast [22:36] Action: fire|bird is going to reboot. :/ [22:36] yay :) [22:36] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:37] ^^ thats not fire|bird [22:37] lf4: I have to get my slax cd, duh. :P [22:37] ananke: mouse wheel don't work to me, can you help me ? [22:38] I'm running X11 with fluxbox [22:38] lol fire|bird no cd runs from ram :D [22:38] lf4: Copy to Ram. pay attention, good grief. [22:38] brb [22:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("AHHH, here I go!"). [22:44] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] re [22:47] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:47] I'm back. :D [22:47] wb fire|bird :) [22:48] thumbs: slax doesn't have firefox, not on the live cd anyway. [22:48] It was lies, ALL LIES. :P [22:49] lf4: thanks. [22:49] fire|bird: you have to make a new one from the site. :) [22:49] fire|bird: hehe [22:49] bah [22:49] i made SlackBuilds for 2 games [22:49] fire|bird: it does, on my copy. [22:49] fire|bird: I added it as a module. [22:49] I've never really used slax, I forgot it has the modules. [22:49] fire|bird: it has FF and flash. [22:50] fire|bird: yes, I forgot to mention you had to add the modules. Sorry. [22:50] thumbs: ok, I'll take back the lies comment, THIS TIME, anyway. [22:50] and, I'm on kopete for irc. :P [22:50] Overand (i=overand@crappy.domain.name) joined ##slackware. [22:51] see, you're silly. [22:51] Alright - I haven't used slackware in years, but I just inhereted a machine - that works - but whatever it is, it's running I believe kernel 2.4.18, on an IDE disk, and it uses LILO. I've been tasked to virtualize it. The platform I'm moving to doesn't support IDE discs, so... [22:52] dont do it [22:52] thumbs: that's all that's available without adding modules. [22:52] Should I just try to track down whatever version of slackware was originally installed, make a 'shell' of an OS, and then slide all of the data, binaries, etc over? [22:52] more info pls [22:52] Or should I try chrooting into the thing and fixing the kernel/etc? [22:52] back up; more introductory info [22:52] Quiznos: Asking me, or someone else? [22:52] Overand: You [22:52] Overand: you [22:52] lol [22:53] you; (and indicator of your knowledgebase) [22:53] jynk lf4 [22:53] OK - I have a 'functional' slackware machine - I don't know the era. [22:53] 12345678910 [22:53] k [22:53] thumbs: haha, I just added it to this live session as a module. :D [22:53] Overand: First off, create a binary image of the disk in question so that you are more free to mess with it. [22:53] Knowledgebase - I'm an intermediate user, mostly familiar with debian, arch linux, and CentOS, some passing experience with FreeBSD [22:53] agentc0re: :P haha [22:53] fire|bird: yes, you can do that too [22:53] antiwire: I've already DDed it off, and have set it up in ESXi [22:53] s/jynk/jink [22:53] ok good; intro info pls on what's being moved [22:53] x [22:53] thumbs: WHAT THE HECK is up with it's chrome-ish theme. :/ [22:53] the problem is that VMWare ESXi - the VM system I'm using, supports SCSI only. [22:53] fire|bird: I don't mind it. [22:53] the netbook keyboard is officially fired. [22:54] which file is the dns server located? [22:54] scsi in the slack-box? [22:54] Quiznos: It's a slackware (??.?) system, 2.4 kernel, uses LILO, it's running qmail, apache, and some-other-stuff [22:54] somewhere in /etc, right? [22:54] thumbs: I don't either. [22:54] Overand /etc/slack* for version [22:54] agentc0re: to small for your big fingers? [22:54] Quiznos: Will check in a moment, thanks. [22:54] raela|alt: /etc/resolv.conf [22:54] thanks [22:54] scsi in the slack-box? [22:55] Quiznos: the physical-slack box has IDE only [22:55] k [22:55] fire|bird: one of the slax images uses xfce :) [22:55] Overand planning to install scsi? [22:55] fire|bird: much better, in my opinion. [22:55] thumbs: cool, what about a flux version? [22:55] fire|bird: wait, it might be flux. [22:55] Quiznos: the physical-slack-box can go out a window when I'm done with this. Goal is - "virtualize this slackware machine" - to VMWare ESXi [22:55] fire|bird: either xfce or flux [22:56] (VMWare ESXi does not provide a virtual IDE controller - it does an LSILogic or Buslogic SCSI one only) [22:56] thumbs: Think man, think. [22:56] Overand why not use a virtual file on slack-fs? [22:56] hmm, no [22:56] Overand why wont you upgrade the dist to someth that'll work possibly more easily? [22:57] fire|bird: it has flux, I see the module. [22:57] Quiznos: That's a possibility. [22:57] fire|bird: "Start Fluxbox by default" [22:57] or get a new user-box with better hw? [22:57] they're inexpens [22:57] Quiznos: This machine is going to be retiring relatively soon anyway - the issue is that I need to have it back-up-and-running by the A.M. [22:57] thumbs: yup, just found that myself. thanks. :) [22:57] heh [22:57] fire|bird: or fcxe 4.4.3 [22:57] heh oh man. [22:57] ok; let's go [22:57] fcxe, whoa, a new de? [22:57] fire|bird: it's a really really really really live cd [22:58] fire|bird: typos [22:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [22:58] Overand but you have no scsi [22:58] rife|bird: I rarely make typos. [22:58] lol [22:58] thumbs: haha, I know. You're spell checker broken? :P [22:59] fire|bird: indeed. The irssi module broke. [22:59] Action: lf4 greets thumbs "welcome to my world" [22:59] fire|bird: (I lost power and had to restart irssi) [23:00] yikes [23:00] Quiznos: OK - now I'm back at the office. [23:00] ok [23:00] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-117-63.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:01] Quiznos: One way I could look at this issue is - "the motherboard died, I managed to get an image of the disk onto a SCSI system, but now it won't boot." [23:01] Ah - Slackware 10.0.0 [23:01] gotta use grub to boot; lilo dont do scsi [23:01] ok [23:01] which fstype? [23:01] Quiznos: makes sense. Suggest I get onto this using a lievCD of some sort? [23:01] livecd are go0dly [23:01] I believe ext3, yes. [23:02] good [23:02] Does it make sense to try to install grub on this? [23:02] sure [23:02] guys, which version of grub for a slack10 site? [23:02] Hmm. Think it'll be an issue if I'm running a 2.6 liveCD? That sounds like a potential problem. [23:03] no; livecd doesnt care what's on hd [23:03] Quiznos: on the SCSI system, it actually *does* boot - partially. [23:03] It fails to load the root FS though [23:03] k; where does it stop? [23:03] ok that might not be a prob [23:03] (after tossing a few errors about loading drivers failing) [23:03] I did *not* notice it load the proper SCSI adapter driver. [23:03] could make a new kern with all needed within kernel [23:03] so no mods are used [23:03] ok [23:03] good idea [23:03] yea makes life easier [23:04] hold one moment, i'm going to try the buslogic controller on the offchance that there's support compiled in [23:04] k [23:04] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my mental file system is RM, for random mess :|" [23:04] fire|bird: I had 450+ days of uptime too. [23:04] lol tagline [23:04] kool [23:04] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:04] i barely get a month in fla. [23:05] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] thumbs: nice [23:05] Yeah - I don't see any indication that the SCSI drivers are loading [23:05] lsmod [23:05] as root [23:06] Quiznos: er - I'm sitting at a kernel panic screen, heh. let me reboot to a liveCD [23:06] kool [23:06] wait [23:06] what's the panic fer [23:06] yes? [23:06] can't find root FS [23:06] ok [23:06] "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to moutn root fs on 0302" [23:06] 03:02 even [23:06] ok [23:06] that's a normal error ;) [23:06] aye [23:07] I just haven't had to, you know, deal with LILO or 2.4 kernels in a while. [23:07] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] yep [23:07] coffee [23:07] Nor was I involved in the building of this system [23:07] yeah heh [23:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:08] Nick change: pizdets -> pizzledizzle [23:08] k [23:08] oh jeez, lsmod won't be useful here, the liveCD i'm using is a giant blob of a kernel [23:08] Nick change: powtrix -> voodoo64 [23:08] Nick change: voodoo64 -> powtrix [23:08] but at least i can poke around on the system and maybe CHRoot into it [23:08] ok [23:08] get a net connection up etc [23:09] chroot? onto the livecd root? [23:09] you're already on the cd root [23:09] no, i've got the liveCD booted on the 'virtual machine' [23:09] yes [23:09] i'm saying, go into the semi-broken-install, maybe DL and install the grub package [23:09] brb [23:09] the ESC virtual mach? [23:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [23:09] ok yea [23:09] esxi yes [23:09] that's sw? [23:10] VMWare ESXi is just a virtualization platform [23:10] reminds me of Esix unix like from the 80s [23:10] k [23:10] Thin hypervisor, lives in about 32 megs of disk space [23:10] nods [23:10] it's actually quite nice, but it's proprietary [23:10] ESXi is free as in beer, not as in speech [23:10] nods [23:11] free speech is money; beer is someth else :) [23:11] oh hey it's 2.4.26 - i thought it was 2.4.18 [23:11] ok [23:11] Hm. and there are files called "System.map-ide-2.4.26" and "vmlinux-ide-2.4.26" [23:12] vm* is kernel [23:12] yes [23:12] in /boot? [23:12] yes. [23:12] k [23:12] see rdev manpage [23:12] to set boot fs [23:13] not quiet sure where you're going with this - haven't CHrooted yet though [23:13] rdev takes a path and 1+ digits to fix kernel's notion of what to mount at boot [23:14] problem is, i think this kerneld oesn't support SCSI [23:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:14] that's likely; a config-* nearby? [23:14] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [23:15] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] hm. this implies some SCSI support [23:15] what where? [23:15] Hello all [23:15] hi [23:16] a bunch of modules for a number of cards, hm [23:16] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:16] including buslogic! [23:16] kk [23:16] thumbs: Alright, back on the desktop, gonna build a new slax cd. :D [23:16] So, maybe all I need to do is generate a new initrd, tell lilo where to look, and re-write it? [23:16] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:16] ok; but i've never done initrd. [23:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:16] me either heh [23:17] anyone with initrd knowl. step up pls? [23:17] wait, what you doing? [23:17] regen initrd to load scsi module [23:17] Urchlay: moving an existing slackware 10.0 2.4.26 (LILO) system from a box with an IDE drive to one with only SCSI [23:17] which slackware version is this? older versions had various kernels to support IDE or various SCSI cards [23:17] 10 [23:18] Urchlay: it *seems* that the system doesn't load the SCSI driver before blowing up with a failed root FS load [23:18] 10.0 didn't use an initrd by default [23:18] Urchlay: It appears to have the -ide- kernel, but the 'config-ide' file looks like it has module support [23:18] you were instead supposed to get the kernel-scsi kernel (or whatever it was called) [23:18] Urchlay: vmlinux-ide-2.4.26 is the kernel I've got here - but like i said, the config file seems to haev the moduiles for the appropriate scsi card loaded [23:18] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [23:18] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Urchlay: I'm inhereting an old system moving off of failing hardware, being virtualized [23:18] right [23:19] I just now scrolled back & was reading [23:19] Overand you can ftp from ftp.heanet.ie/pub/slackware/... [23:19] gig pipe there [23:19] Ireland [23:19] I see what appears to be the right kernel, as a bzImage [23:19] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-10.0/kernels/ [23:19] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:20] replace osuosl.org with heanet.ie if that'll be faster [23:20] Hm, wait a moment. [23:20] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest46105 [23:21] those are compiled kernels, not packages... if I were you, I'd figure out which one (scsi.s, scsi2.s, whatever) supports your card, add it as a new LILO entry, keep the old -ide entry [23:21] yeah - I have what looks like a sane kernel [23:21] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] Urchlay: yep [23:21] buslog [23:21] What the heck, I didn't log in as phoenix^ [23:21] phoenix quit; got sick of being a shadow [23:21] Urchlay: I've found one that seems to be appropriate, just a moment [23:21] the README.txt probly says which ones support what [23:21] Urchlay: I looked at the "config" files- found one that matches [23:21] Quiznos: I AM phoenix^ :D [23:21] ah, OK [23:21] duh [23:22] fire|bird someone else too :) [23:22] What the heck tried logging in as that nick now. :/ [23:22] lol [23:23] Quiznos: and besides, the phoenix^ nick logged in, NOT quit. :) [23:23] o [23:23] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-66-24.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:26] lol it is :) [23:27] people need to learn when to strategically buy a vowel [23:27] lol [23:27] fire|bird: it might come in handy. [23:27] fire|bird: other than that, a decent IM client, and an IRC client. [23:27] thumbs: ok, thanks. :) [23:27] and thttpd [23:27] for serving files intermittently [23:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] can be a pseudo-ftpd too [23:28] hmm. Wish me luck. [23:28] ... why? [23:28] Overand luk [23:28] thumbs why what? [23:28] Quiznos: it's a frakin live cd, not a instant-server. [23:28] too bad [23:28] Quiznos: why include thttpd? [23:28] for completeness [23:28] and just-in-caseness [23:29] stop-the-craziness [23:29] heh [23:29] he could be a pirate fileserver on the run [23:29] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] kernel booted! forgot to fix fstab, but that's easy -= sweet [23:29] Quiznos: Thanks! [23:29] Urchlay: Thanks! [23:29] yvw [23:30] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:32] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [23:32] thumbs: Downloading now. :D [23:32] weeee [23:33] SusanPowta; STOP THE MADNESS [23:34] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-66-24.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] Overand: worked? [23:35] oh, guess it did. Congrats. [23:36] Urchlay: yes, ish [23:36] I need to figure out the NIC modules but that's about it [23:39] cool [23:44] is anyone familiar with how to make a diff? [23:45] i modified one for a SlackBuild and then patch says it is garbage [23:48] ejm (n=ezra@75-174-113-67.bois.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:51] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:53] fogus (n=fogus@d75-157-237-3.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] hello. how can I check the current version of a package? I am interested in knowing the current version of grub I slackware [23:53] Guest2148 (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Connection timed out [23:57] fogus, slackpkg info [23:57] fogus, or use pkgtool [23:57] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) joined ##slackware. [23:57] hiptobecubic: where do I type that? I only have windows as of now [23:57] fogus, you're in windows right now? [23:57] yes [23:58] I'm trying to get slack. [23:58] Good evening, anyone could give a short/detailed explanation about clflush size? [23:58] but I want to dual boot (this is all for a new computer) [23:58] Windows is already installed on this new computer? [23:59] fogus, also, slackware uses lilo, not grub [00:00] --- Wed Aug 12 2009