[00:00] how are you dtanner [00:00] doing good , tweaking slack , my gf is watchinbg a scary movie, she fed me ribeyes tonight , i have a full tummy. all is well here . ANd yourself ? [00:01] NyteOwl: telus has its own network. [00:01] Old_Fogie: a working laptop would be a requirement :D [00:01] dtanner: tired, been working too hard. but that's life. but doing well. [00:01] zGhost: :) [00:02] acidchild: it's stillcdma . You'd think I cold buy the phone at the telus shop and have it work at Bell (or that bell would carry the same phone) but nooooooo [00:02] you can can't you? [00:02] no [00:03] zGhost: I read the dell mini's are supposed to sell with ubunut for 250 (if you can live with a netbook) [00:03] did someone recommend a nokia 6275 earlier? [00:03] I am going CricKet, ordering the phones tonight , the samsung messenger [00:03] zGhost: our netbook, plugs nice into monitor (1024x768) max res, works well [00:03] Old_Fogie: a netbook would be perfect for me [00:03] I only use my laptop when I don't have access to my desktop or another desktop [00:03] which isn't often [00:03] I think acer is supposed to ship 10.1" models soon [00:04] bigger than current netbooks [00:04] so if size mattered, then I'd hold out [00:04] I've seen the 10" HP netbook. it's kinda nice [00:04] that's what she said [mall rats] [00:04] agentc0re: :) [00:05] agentc0re: but actually, that "that's what she said's been around *way* longer than that movie" hee hee, still makes me laugh [00:05] When a girl says it's a good size, it's a nice way of saying it's small. [00:05] I ment the effort was too little too late! [00:05] s/ment/meant [00:05] agentc0re: well, if she makes a hand gesture, like pinching fingers motion, oh yea that's bad :) [00:06] Oh, i'm just quoting the movie. :) [00:06] Old_Fogie: It's a good classic! :) [00:06] Chocolate covered pretzels. :D [00:08] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.104.255) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:08] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) got netsplit. [00:08] foureyes879 (n=theron@97-113-183-20.tukw.qwest.net) got netsplit. [00:08] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) got netsplit. [00:08] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) got netsplit. [00:08] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [00:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.113) got netsplit. [00:08] Ringo48 (n=Ringo48@c-75-70-128-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) got netsplit. [00:08] giuppy (n=giuppy@host57-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) got netsplit. [00:08] simplesso (n=simplex@uglyplace.org) got netsplit. 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[00:09] Mmmm what the say.yy eyyy yaahh, that they only meant well.... [00:09] Well of course they did... [00:09] s/the/they [00:10] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] do I want to spend the extra for a data plan on a smart phone, a VPS, or increase the speed of my home connection. can't do all three :) [00:10] mbhayes (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [00:10] NyteOwl: I'd do a VPS [00:11] linode ftw [00:12] RapidXen has some good deals [00:13] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-129-206.epm.net.co) got netsplit. [00:13] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@206.53.49.137) got netsplit. [00:13] Tidus_ (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) got netsplit. [00:13] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) got netsplit. [00:13] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [00:13] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) got netsplit. [00:13] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) got netsplit. 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[00:24] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.146.125.181) left irc: "later folks" [00:27] FriedBob (i=friedbob@noobfarm.org) left irc: No route to host [00:28] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: No route to host [00:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:34] lee555J5|1 (n=lee555J5@72.242.44.130) joined ##slackware. [00:35] lee555J5|1 (n=lee555J5@72.242.44.130) left ##slackware. [00:35] lee555J5|1 (n=lee555J5@72.242.44.130) joined ##slackware. [00:38] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:39] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] panzer, smanzer [00:40] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:41] luoyi (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-fe754f295a7a8fc5) joined ##slackware. [00:42] is there anyone had successfulled built linuxdoc-tools packages from the slackbuilds script ? [00:43] if it is on SBo it has been tested, yes [00:43] not by me, but you now.. [00:43] what does it bitch about? [00:43] missing something? [00:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Nick change: Tidus_ -> Tidus [00:47] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:47] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] lee555J5|1 (n=lee555J5@72.242.44.130) left ##slackware. [00:52] d [00:52] e? [00:54] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejf229.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:55] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:57] brain... melting out of ears... [00:57] spook: its a lovely sensation, right? :P [00:58] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:58] luoyi (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-fe754f295a7a8fc5) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.20/2008121709]" [01:01] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] no its not [01:05] $%#^ing sharepoint [01:06] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:12] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-19.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:17] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-166.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [01:17] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] spook: check for idiocracy/omissions: http://macavity.rlworkman.net [01:20] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:20] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [01:21] IrquiM__ (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:23] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:25] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] morning. [01:27] mornin [01:27] good morning [01:27] fluxnuk3r (n=server@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:27] hello [01:28] hey [01:28] want to give me your opinion on a computer I'm thinking about buying? [01:29] IrquiM (n=irquim@15.80-202-42.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] humm, dri ain't workin [01:30] well that explains it [01:30] NyteOwl: you there? [01:30] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] sort of :) [01:30] lol [01:30] heres the url for the barebone I'm looking at if anyone feels like it [01:30] http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4442417&sku=B69-0014 [01:32] I'm not a huge nVidia fan but it doesn't look bad [01:33] yah, NyteOwl you're ATI all the way if I remember correctly.. [01:33] lol [01:33] uhm [01:33] that RAM is as slow as what i have in this laptop [01:34] are AMD chips still that FSB starved? [01:34] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:34] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] well the AMD 78G is arguably the best embedded video chipset on the market for consumer mATX boards [01:35] macavity: no, it's a budget system ;) [01:35] er 780G [01:35] the comment about the RAM surprises me. [01:35] that seems rather fast to me.. [01:35] I'd have expected PC6400 [01:36] fluxnuk3r: uhm.. recent Intel chips run at 1333/1600MHz FSB [01:36] though you can occasionally get a good deal I prefer picking my own component [01:36] s [01:36] macavity: I cant see what you wrote. Haven't gotten the latest fix from dive... [01:37] huh? [01:37] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:37] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:37] NyteOwl: I'm running on an HP a1410y, 1.25 gigs of ram, integrated xpress 200 graphics [01:38] my computer that just crapped out had 2 32-bit Xeon's in it. one gig of RDRAM [01:38] 1.60 GHz [01:39] I'm not a gamer, but I need a solid system. [01:39] will this work? [01:39] 07:41 < fluxnuk3r> macavity: I cant see what you wrote. Haven't gotten the latest fix from dive... <<-- I didnt understand a word of that.. come again? [01:40] do I really want a phone that runs Windows? [01:41] fluxnuk3r: should be fine for msot day to day stuff [01:41] NyteOwl: do you want Redmond to listen in on your calls to 900 numbers? :P [01:41] I just discovered something which should get us rid of some libs such as libgnomeui and friends : http://live.gnome.org/ProjectRidley [01:41] lol, I can't see the messages that people direct at me. the my terminal is black, and so is your text [01:41] ananke, ping! [01:41] f l u x n u k 3 r : should be fine for msot day to day stuff (is that better?) [01:41] I'm making a useraccount for my friend (on a windows box) [01:41] fluxnuk3r: Can you hear me now? [01:41] ah, lol [01:42] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:42] can they ssh into my account [01:42] fluxnuk3r: Is this annoying? [01:42] if I don't assign a shell to them? [01:42] fl: i said: uhm.. recent Intel chips run at 1333/1600MHz FSB [01:42] like, I'll make their shell /dev/null or something [01:42] lol : http://live.gnome.org/LibgnomeMustDie [01:42] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] just changed my terminal color. I can see you jkwood [01:42] :P [01:43] NyteOwl: day to day? you don't mean a word processor right? I figured you guys would have huge expectations [01:44] fluxnuk3r: I'm a pragmatist (though I liek the super hardware). Most things people do on a system on a daily basis could be handled comfortabley on a 500MHz to 1GHz Celeron/athlon single core :) [01:44] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [01:45] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:45] NyteOwl: no way [01:45] That said, I'm currently IRCing on a quad core 4 GHz machine with 8GB of ram and a terabyte of total drive space :) [01:45] NyteOwl: small business. I do websites and image editing [01:45] NyteOwl: i absolutely *hate* waiting for application launches [01:45] macavity: he isn't talking about vista :D [01:45] fluxnuk3r: i use kontact alot.. that is a rather big app [01:46] macavity: yes. 90% of computer users use their machine to do e-mail, instant messgae, browse the web, write eltters, balance their checkbooks, maybe do their taxes. None of that is processor memory intensive [01:46] fluxnuk3r: but not as big as OOo ;-) [01:46] fluxnuk3r: hmm it would work. might start getting sluggish in the graphics work [01:46] NyteOwl: getting things to start fast *is* processor intensive [01:46] NyteOwl: sluggish running gimp? [01:46] or compiz? [01:46] neither [01:47] but sluggish running bloodfrontier [01:47] compiz can be a bitch from what I've heard but I haven't tried it so I can't say from experience [01:47] or blender [01:47] games I take it? [01:47] I don't really play games. an emulator once in a while, but nothing big [01:47] compiz is a bitch to get right on Intel imho.. eviljames disagrees and has no problems with it [01:47] Blender is 3d modeling, Compiz is desktop effects. [01:47] however, the upcomming X11R7.5 relase should fix all this [01:48] jkwood: didn't know what blender was.. [01:48] AIGLX finally got proper support for texture_from_pixmap [01:48] macavity: you campaign for obama too? [01:48] lol (jk) [01:48] I get this message: /bin/false is not in /etc/shells (potential problem using FTP) [01:49] fluxnuk3r: had i been an amarican, i probably would, yes :P [01:49] Is /bin/false the common technique when allowing someone only ssh access and no shell? [01:49] the RAZR2 V9m looks nice and reviews are good except it seems fragile [01:49] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:49] macavity: ugh. I didn't even watch the inauguration [01:49] depressing. [01:49] redtricycle: whyare they bothering to ssh in if they have no shell? [01:49] redtricycle: ssh is just a transport layer [01:50] NyteOwl: so overall, it should be fine for website design, gimp, compiz, etc [01:50] just not games.. [01:50] redtricycle: if you set the shell to /bin/false or /bin/logout they cant really use the "sh" part in ssh connection :P [01:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] i see [01:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:50] because, they're on windows [01:50] fluxnuk3r: I would think so (can't speak to compiz) [01:50] and I use sshdrive [01:50] err, SFTPdrive [01:51] So would they be able to access those files? [01:51] NyteOwl: had a laptop with an ATI Mobility U that could run beryl. [01:51] and that sucks. [01:51] redtricycle: then try adding /bin/false to shells [01:51] well, it's just a warning...I could still use /bin/false right? [01:51] can someone hammer into my skull an idiot proof guide to using ffmpeg to transcode video? [01:52] (can anyone recommend a good one before i search) [01:52] any differnece btween using /bin/false and /dev/null? [01:52] redtricycle: that's the funny part.. if you attempt to use a shell that is not in /etc/shells, the system calls /bin/logout on you :P [01:52] macavity: -_- [01:52] redtricycle: yes, /dev/null is an idiotic approach invented by RH [01:53] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:53] redtricycle: however, setting peoples homedir to /dev/null has a purpose [01:53] setting their shell to /usr/bin/yes is always fun [01:53] macavity: what's the purpose of setting a user's homedir to /dev/null? [01:53] redtricycle: they cant save files to their home dir perhaps? [01:54] NyteOwl: going in and out again? [01:54] redtricycle: that they cant generate an error exception, even if they somehow manage to write to their homedir [01:54] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [01:54] spook: oh yes they can... they just cant read them again ;-) [01:54] macavity: well, this isn't a complete cripple account [01:54] that is.. unless you are runnin lindows.. then /dev/null is probably full :P [01:54] I basically want to share files with my friend [01:54] over ssh [01:54] but not give him shell access to my box [01:55] then it is not "over ssh" [01:55] then it is over ssl [01:55] Secure Socket Layer [01:55] ah, then that's what I mean [01:55] thanks for the distinction [01:55] I'm sure my mangling of the nomenclature must be harsh on eyes ;) [01:55] actually, you "can share files via ssh" [01:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:56] the kde io-slave called fish:// does that [01:56] or scp... [01:56] if you have shell account on an ssh server, fish:// can pretend that it is a filesystem to all KDE apps [01:56] rather nifty if you ask me :P [01:56] hmm. a KDE fan I think? [01:57] fan may be over the top.. its just the GIU i like the best [01:57] but most the time i use cli [01:58] how do I add an existing user to a group? useradd -G groupname myusername only works for new users [01:58] something funky is going on here [01:58] kontact, amarok, xine, a browser and a terminal emulator :P [01:58] those are my simple needs [01:58] ah, kate! i forgot about kate [01:58] poking through Xorg.0.log, it goes through the motions and says dri's enabled [01:59] For me, it's irssi, firefox and vim o_o [01:59] however, if I check glxinfo, it says it is disabled [01:59] I'm..pretty boring [01:59] Oh, and mplayer now and then [01:59] CaptObviousman: chipset and driver? [01:59] redtricycle: vlc. [01:59] redtricycle: no email? [02:00] firefox? [02:00] oh hey, permissions error [02:00] firefox can do email now too? [02:00] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] yah. you go to the site and type in your username and password. new stuff. [02:00] lol [02:00] macavity: gmail [02:00] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] ahh [02:00] the problem is...I'm pretty mobile [02:00] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Action: CaptObviousman adds himself to the video group, feels sheepish [02:00] I *have* to have console programs, otherwise I can't get work done [02:01] mutt. [02:01] links2. [02:01] It feels good to ssh into your box from anywhere [02:01] CaptObviousman: audio, video, plugdev, power, cdrom [02:01] it feels like you're home ;) [02:01] CaptObviousman: and possibly wheel too... [02:01] redtricycle: vlc has an ncurses interface too [02:01] fluxnuk3r: fancy [02:01] doesn't being in the plugdev group get you auto-added to most of those upon login ? [02:01] so okay...what am I doing wrong: I editted /etc/group [02:01] and added my username at the end of the group [02:02] redtricycle: yah. never was really impressed with mplayer.. [02:02] That puts me in that group, right? [02:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [02:02] So, if a folder has 770 permissions for that group [02:02] its better than gxine though. yuck* [02:02] then I should be able to access the folder, right? [02:02] redtricycle: you have to re-login to get the new group membership [02:02] redtricycle: i use "gpasswd username group" [02:02] redtricycle: thats the quick way :P [02:03] oh well. I'm going to bed. Its tomorrow already. [02:03] macavity: so gpasswd will somehow get all existing processes to "update" with new group membership ? [02:03] okay [02:03] rk4n3: you're right about relogging in [02:03] rk4n3: no [02:03] i mistakenly thought opening new login shells [02:03] means logging in [02:03] fluxnuk3r (n=server@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:03] why is that not true? [02:03] My terminal opens login shells, or does it not? [02:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:04] redtricycle: its because even login shells are child processes of the process they're started from, and thus inherit its group membership [02:04] yup [02:04] ah [02:04] and because of that mistake, I wasted like 10 minutes wondernig why -_- [02:04] redtricycle: you have to get out to a shell that's actually started from init or such [02:04] in UNIX everything is a child or a grandchild of init [02:05] ahh...and I'm in my screen session [02:05] so creating new screens didn't update my group [02:05] ...of course [02:06] -_- [02:06] Action: Old_Fogie is playing with this, it's pretty cool ; http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/whaw/ [02:06] i try to go through slackbuilds repository [02:06] to find cool apps [02:06] redtricycle: yep - now, you can "approximate" getting new group membership by actually switching your primary group using the newgrp command, but it will only affect the shell you're actually in, no other processes [02:06] but it's not easy going through, clicking, reading, going to another one [02:07] redtricycle: sbopkg ? [02:07] jkwood: holy crap [02:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:08] redtricycle: I usually use freshmeat and/or google to find software I like, then see if there's a slackbuild for it ... if not, I may just go for the configure;make;install if the software is appealing enough [02:08] rk4n3: ya, i"m talking about 'bored-want-to-try-new-software-but-dont-know-what-i-want' syndrome [02:08] redtricycle: freshmeat is pretty cool to browse for that mode [02:08] i'll try that next time, thanks ;) [02:09] but I have to play with sbopkg [02:09] =) [02:09] ...or sleep, eek [02:09] I hope this doesnt take more than 15 minutes [02:09] Also, afaik, the SBo repo isn't that big. [02:09] You could rsync it, then play with it on your own time. [02:09] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:10] LOL - "I want to find some cool new software, and I hope it doesn't take more than 15 minutes" ... seems a little funny :) [02:10] sbopkg might be more user-friendly, though. I haven't messed with it. [02:11] sbopkg can rsync slackbuikds.org [02:11] Hmmm [02:11] Any suggestions for a good replacement for EAC? [02:12] (http://exactaudiocopy.de/) [02:12] rk4n3: I mean playing with sbopkg, b/c sometimes [02:12] when I play iwth new software [02:12] and it doesn't "just work" [02:12] I end up not sleeping until I figur eit out [02:12] ;) [02:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Old_Fogie: http://macavity.rlworkman.net [02:12] I specifically want the ease of defining compression, and the ability to switch between freedb server addresses easily. [02:12] Old_Fogie: go go go :P [02:13] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:13] Action: Motoko-chan just can't find a *good* tool that brings together cdparanoia, faac/lame, and tagging support [02:13] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-70-132-7-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:14] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-70-132-7-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] mmmmmmmm.... http://www.riverratsclan.com/modules.php?name=Sexy_or_Not&file=big&id=28 [02:14] anyone know where a small non-public project can get a mailing list? [02:14] macavity, I can bookmark that and go back to it later on? Meaning that's the site for now on? [02:15] Old_Fogie: yes [02:15] ok [02:15] Old_Fogie: figure out how to get two or three mailing lists, exclusive to us [02:16] Old_Fogie: the automated-test-list *might* become pretty high-volume [02:16] ok [02:17] haha, an upgrade [02:17] now wine dumps an error on the console instead of crashing X [02:17] a full backtrace of, say, bloodfronteir is bound to become pretty damn big.. especially with full debuggin enabled (externally) [02:17] CaptObviousman: ok, that is progress :P [02:17] what's a 3d game I can compile to test this out? [02:17] Action: CaptObviousman wants to make sure it's not a graphic driver problem [02:17] CaptObviousman: bloodfrontier [02:17] shouldn't be, since I'm using kernel drivers [02:17] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:18] macavity: you can always use googlegroups for lists [02:18] redtricycle: doesnt that imply that google can list the content? [02:18] no slackbuild =( [02:19] CaptObviousman: lol [02:19] Action: CaptObviousman is laaaaazzzy [02:19] CaptObviousman: no, just go to their site and download the tar.gz [02:19] I'll just get tux racer [02:19] CaptObviousman: it is precompiled [02:19] CaptObviousman: just untar, and there is a .sh to launch it inside [02:19] CaptObviousman: the sources are also there, if you want to build it [02:19] neato [02:19] Action: CaptObviousman will give it a try [02:19] macavity: you can have private groups [02:19] Action: macavity likes the concept of games being packaged that way [02:19] thanks for the suggestion [02:20] macavity: of course, google has access to it [02:20] macavity: is that your concern? [02:20] yeah, games that don't require install = win [02:20] redtricycle: no, i just dont want people to find it and come running [02:20] also, downloading at >1MB/s = win^2 [02:20] redtricycle: we are testing gallium3d... and that is *bound* to have shit loads of "fanbois" come running all over the place [02:20] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [02:21] macavity: well, look into it, but I don't know google throws their private group messages into their search index [02:21] redtricycle: ill check it out, thx :-) [02:22] g'night all! [02:22] jkwood: thx again for sbopkg [02:23] No problem. Happy to help, and good night. [02:24] i'm out too night everyone [02:24] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:26] well, tuxracer works [02:27] Action: CaptObviousman is irritated enough at his non-functional volume controls to actually Do Something about it [02:28] it's Fix Shit night at the captain's place [02:31] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [02:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:32] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] blood frontier also works, but no sound [02:35] so, 3d be's workin [02:36] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [02:37] xulrunner 1.9.0.6 is released [02:38] Old_Fogie: OM? [02:38] PM? [02:38] yea sure [02:40] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:40] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-566a37cc5f01a880) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [02:42] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [02:46] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] Nick change: moha__ -> mohaa [02:48] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:00] Action: CaptObviousman has wanted a FreeRunner for as long as they've been shipping [03:00] but alas, I've not th etime to contribute to that project. Or any project really [03:00] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-221-66.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [03:01] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-221-66.cust.tele2.se) left ##slackware. [03:01] panzer_ (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] yikes. I have an /etc/apache dir from 2003. [03:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] the-zandi (n=zandi@68-188-163-247.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] somethign tells me that's not used anymore. [03:03] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [03:03] the-zandi (n=zandi@68-188-163-247.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [03:04] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:07] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:08] stybla-work (n=stybla@nat/sun/x-b88544bb16095a56) joined ##slackware. [03:13] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-166.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [03:16] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) joined ##slackware. [03:16] good morning all [03:16] :) [03:17] good morning [03:17] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:21] good morning [03:23] good morning? with such headache? no-way! [03:23] :p [03:23] lol [03:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [03:23] nullboy: coffee? [03:23] nah [03:24] tea! [03:24] for the first time in my life, copyright rules has a real impact on me [03:24] ... i want to give proper credit, but i cant figure out who originally made this :P [03:24] how lame is that? [03:25] whats the thingy to install perl modules? [03:25] spook: cpan ? [03:25] yeah thats it [03:25] i pirate shit right and left.. but the first time i dont want to, i cant figure out how to do it rigth [03:25] then its like "make install perlmodulename" ? [03:26] spook: i can't remember right now, but i'm sure there is help. [03:26] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:26] yeah. [03:26] perl.. [03:26] spook: i think it was easier than this. -> install module - or something [03:27] the only language that looks exactly the same, before *and* after a DES encryption :P [03:28] you've obviously never used APL heh [03:28] ? [03:28] APL is almost as cryptic in syntax [03:29] oh, its not the perl *syntax* [03:29] it that perl programmers dont bother looking up functions in the refference [03:29] hence they do everything with regexps [03:29] which happen to be very "write only" [03:29] stybla-work: install is an alias for make install [03:29] yes well a line of APL code is almost as bad for readability [03:30] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:30] install implies test -> make -> get [03:30] good to know.. where not to look :P [03:30] spook: oh, oki [03:31] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [03:36] ummmmmm [03:37] eBay::API::XML [03:37] aperturefever` (n=shevek@athedsl-198337.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:38] wow. [03:39] condurre (n=condurre@32.155.173.116) joined ##slackware. [03:39] condurre (n=condurre@32.155.173.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:40] renew_01 (n=renew@adsl-68-127-170-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] stybla-work (n=stybla@nat/sun/x-b88544bb16095a56) left ##slackware. [03:40] hey can any one name a mailing list proggy that works with an exchange server (need it for a small company) [03:41] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:42] Have any of you upgraded from 4 to 8Gbs? What performance advantage if any did you see? [03:42] Shingoshi: ram? [03:42] Karlitoo: why are you using exchange for a small company? [03:42] yes [03:43] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:43] Shingoshi: unless you have long mode it wouldnt make an aweful lot of difference [03:43] Long mode? [03:43] it's more like a small business [03:43] Shingoshi: 64bit [03:43] Is it supplied by the kernel-huge? [03:44] Shingoshi: ummmm.... [03:44] Do I need to recompile my kernel? [03:44] Karlitoo: mailman MIGHT work. [03:44] To have the system see the full amount. [03:44] and I'm using it cause when I got into this company it already had and exchange server [03:44] :) [03:44] Karlitoo: i mean, you can just setup a smallish mta for the mailing list, it only has to send doesnt it? [03:45] yeah it only has to send [03:45] Shingoshi, you need a 64bit OS, i'm pretty certain [03:45] I heard that a 64-bit kernel works with Slackware. [03:45] It does. [03:46] here we go [03:46] Or, you can use PAE. [03:46] But do I neeed 64-bit glibx too? [03:46] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:46] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.161.215) joined ##slackware. [03:46] Well, a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit support will work fine with Slackware. [03:46] My fingers have been drinking. [03:46] No need for 64-bit glibc unless you'll be running 64-bit apps. [03:47] So just the 64-bit kernel will do? [03:47] Ask rob0. I'm pretty sure he did it. [03:47] I thought so too! [03:48] I think he said so . [03:48] I know that someone did. [03:49] jkwood: I just ordered a new board. I really wanted more ram at my disposal. [03:49] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-206148.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [03:51] Well, either PAE or a 64-bit kernel should suit you. [03:51] The kernel huge doesn't have PAE? [03:52] Why would they call it huge, and not provide PAE? [03:53] Isn't HUGE supposed to have Everything?? [03:54] I really have no idea. [03:54] Well, I'll find out Friday. [03:55] brb [03:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:57] I decided to get my board and ram first, and see how much the price falls on the chips by next month. [03:58] Besides. This new board my give me a higher overclock than my current one. [03:58] Nothing wrong with that. [03:59] Yeah. I'm now running 2.0Ghz on a 1.6Ghz chip. I'd like to get a 3.0Ghz chip. [03:59] If I can push this to 2.4 with the new board, that would be nice. [04:00] Even 2.2 [04:00] ty spook [04:01] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] hexoroid (n=hex@unaffiliated/hexoroid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:07] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE92941.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:07] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:08] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] night all [04:09] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [04:10] cousinnewt (i=42305947@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a7d23facf6596b09) joined ##slackware. [04:15] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [04:20] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-180-254.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[04:25] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] dive^ (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:31] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.161.215) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:34] cousinnewt (i=42305947@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a7d23facf6596b09) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [04:40] Karlitoo: np [04:41] according to the latest article on distrowatch, new BackTrack will not be based on Slackware anymore... they've switched to Debian/Ubuntu [04:41] excellent [04:41] btw2, for those that missed it. there's this slackware packages search site http://slackfind.net [04:43] searches trough official, slacky.eu, linuxpackages.net, alien's, rworkman's and few other repos [04:43] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! 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[05:09] Kaapa, did you setup the raid setup? [05:13] joannis (n=joannis@gswb80knft.adsl.datanet.hu) joined ##slackware. [05:17] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:17] helloo, is there slackware 12.2 64bit ? [05:18] http://slamd64.com/ [05:18] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:19] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:19] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:19] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) joined ##slackware. [05:20] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) joined ##slackware. [05:20] tank-man: probably not [05:21] greetings [05:21] gynterk: That was for you, if you missed it. http://slamd64.com/ [05:21] ah, thanks [05:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:26] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejh106.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Nick change: poona -> asap [05:30] Nick change: asap -> asap3 [05:31] i am sending a process that is running on a console to the background using kill -19 from another terminal. Now when i do a kill -18 why isn't it coming to the foreground. Why is it coming to the foreground only when i do a fg and not when i do a kill -18 ? [05:31] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [05:34] anyone happen to have a copy of libnl-1.1 ? [05:35] Makaveli4life (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [05:35] kjell: please do not tell people that slamd64 is a 64bit Slackware [05:35] Oh, forgot. gynterk It's not officially Slackware. It's a fork. [05:36] ye, saw that [05:36] Anyone familiarized with mdadm? Can I use that to recover a system made with raidtools? [05:37] IIRC that's interchangeable yes. [05:37] It's just frontends for the kernel's raid system eh. [05:37] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:37] alienBOB: so right [05:39] hum, slax already gave me a /dev/md0, but I'm doing something wrong, cause I can't access it [05:40] Well the device node can always be there of course. [05:40] Is the array auto-detectable? [05:40] my raid knowledge sucks. I can't access the disks, so I'm using a livecd [05:41] so any help would be much appreciated [05:41] Well you can't mount it? [05:41] Or is it the root disk? [05:42] well, I have a sda1 and sdb1 of type Linux raid autodetect [05:43] joannis (n=joannis@gswb80knft.adsl.datanet.hu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:43] Yes... and is Slackware on those partitions or is it just data? [05:43] yes, it is [05:43] What is :-P [05:44] Slackware or the data [05:44] sorry, the system [05:44] not just data [05:44] Hehe okay. [05:44] Well I put my own array in the master boot record, so you may need the 'raid-extra-boot = mbr' option in lilo to boot. [05:44] Also make sure your kernel has the raid driver ofcourse. [05:44] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:45] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [05:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] 17390208 blocks [2/1] [U_] [05:47] this means the second this is screwed? [05:48] Ehm can't recall... it's not used for certain. [05:48] It's not used anyway. [05:48] But did you boot with the lilo option I gave you? [05:48] this system doesn't boot [05:48] It might cause it. It's a while a go I had disfunctional arrays so I'm not too sure. [05:48] that's the problem [05:49] No that's why you need to edit the lilo.conf on your array with your livecd. [05:49] it's a 5yo server that's been working forever.. till yesterday [05:49] But the livecd works? [05:49] booting into the livecd, sure [05:50] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:50] Then it can still be the lilo thingy. [05:53] md: kicking non-fresh sdb1 from array [05:53] k, seems that sdb is really screwed [05:54] does slamd64 got 64-bit software repository for slapt-get? [05:54] Kaapa: please just try the suggestions first. [05:54] If that second disk still boots with the livecd there's no reason to panic. [05:55] Zosma: how can I get to lilo if I can't access the filesystem? [05:55] straterra (n=straterr@ipv6.projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:55] gynterk: .... [05:55] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [05:55] You can mount the filesystem from the livecd Kaapa? [05:55] no [05:55] Why not. [05:55] dianna` (n=diana@h71.67.255.206.cable.htsp.cablelynx.com) joined ##slackware. [05:55] gynterk: slackbuilds will work on slamd64 with a 3 second change [05:55] |newbie| (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [05:55] mount /mnt/md0/ -> Failed to read last sector (35824886): Invalid argument [05:56] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:56] But you said you could access it from the livecd :-S [05:57] bad phrasing :( I can access the disks, not the partition [05:57] spook, what change is this? [05:57] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Then I dunno :-S [05:57] It can be a faulty one then. [05:58] spook, yes, but is software in slackbuilds 64-bit? [05:59] hi..installed slackware last night. i have run into 2 problems. one minor and one major. the minor is the mouse not scrolling and the major is that the nvidia driver from nvidia.com doesn't install. can anyone help with either? [05:59] slackware 12.2 [05:59] sorry [05:59] because the point of 64-bit system is to use 64-bit software not multilib [05:59] gynterk: some slackbuilds check the arch of the pc ;) but you can edit it in the slackbuild..near the top ;) also, i think there is something else (librarywise...) dont remember correctly [06:00] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:00] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] naim (n=naim@92.82.178.171) joined ##slackware. [06:01] panzer_ (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] gynterk: ..... [06:02] gynterk: SlackBuilds are *scripts* that compile a package for you [06:02] gynterk: you really dont "get" 64bit do you? [06:02] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Connection timed out [06:03] thanks, got it now- [06:03] Zosma: I just readded the second disk and it's currently rebuilding... fingers crossed :S It sucks to be ignorant in some topics [06:03] The script does not care about machine archtecture. You tell it for what architectureto compile the package [06:03] dianna`: for the nvidia driver... go with the slackbuilds.org slackbuilds to create slackware package [06:03] gynterk: also please note that this channel is called ##slackware and we are not inclined to help with getting you started on a fork of Slackware. [06:03] dianna`: for mouse, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:04] That is - unless someone feels he should help you [06:05] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:05] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [06:05] dianna`: you probably didn't configured it correctly. put the following in the Section "InputDevice" [06:05] Option "Protocol" "auto" [06:05] gynterk: the point of a 64bit system is that it allows you to access the full RAM of a beefy machine and profit from the larger registers. But why should it not also be providing the means to run 32bit software? [06:05] Kaapa: good luck... [06:06] Only reason I had a faulty disk was when I just bought new hardware and had it fail every other day. [06:06] Turned out one of the SATA-cables was broken. [06:06] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:06] Never had broken cables before so never suspected that... [06:06] has anyone any idea how to enable wireless phisycal button in slackware 12.1? [06:06] dianna`: i think since 12.1 scroll works automatically... (you probably have PS/2... IMPS2 should work too with the Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [06:06] naim: bigger hammer [06:06] ok thanks [06:06] on a hp compaq 6715s [06:07] i just found slackbuilds.org [06:07] sigh [06:07] i have to go back to nvidia to remember which one it was. lol [06:08] spook: right! [06:08] what about hardware redetection? [06:08] Kaapa: that may work for some time. definitely start mdadm monitor (so it would check the array periodically and send you mail when it notices errors etc) [06:09] panzer_ (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:09] i mean, when booting slack with wireless button set on "off" i can not see the wireless card anymore [06:09] naim: acpi scripts... [06:09] i've been googling for instructions for the mouse for hours and couldn't find anything. i haven't gone into my xorg.conf to change anything. [06:10] the-spiki: thanks [06:10] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Zosma: yeah, faulty cables are something you almost never expect to get... it happened only once to me... it was pita [06:11] this is a >5yo system. Is that a reason why I can't mount a ext partition? [06:11] the-spiki: but how to do that? [06:12] The-spiki: :-) [06:13] thanks, The-spiki [06:13] dianna`: well, your xorg.conf is probably not right... that's it. try with the protocol auto or protocol imps and ZaxisMapping setting [06:13] /clear [06:13] dianna`: btw, you need to restart X with every try [06:13] dianna`: ctrl+alt+ [06:14] dianna`: ctrl+alt+backspace [06:14] right [06:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-e7d021f5dbefb580) joined ##slackware. [06:15] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:15] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:15] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] The-Croupier: this conversation not enough erotic for you? :) [06:15] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:16] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [06:17] The-spiki: i was wondering when where you gonna start sexually harrasing people ;) [06:17] im trying to make irssi not show all those joins and quits with /ignore..but is not working very well and i get lots of crap in the screen..as you understand its hard to follow the sexy conversation with lots of joins,quits around [06:18] you need a bigger hammer [06:18] spook: tell me about it :( [06:19] The-Croupier: /ignore * ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS [06:19] Nick change: CtrlAltCa -> Guest26810 [06:19] the boss is next to me, im using the slackware-laptop, hes looking menacing, and im trying to fix irssi instead of making some stupid spammy newsletter [06:19] * can be a channel name [06:19] spook: did that already no luck [06:19] The-Croupier: /help ignore [06:19] Nick change: |newbie| -> CtrlAltCa [06:19] /HELP IGNORE AND /HELP LEVELS [06:21] i need to install something like office in a laptop with no cd-r drive :( [06:21] you can install over the network [06:21] its faster too [06:21] The-Croupier: create iso from the cd :) [06:21] just copy the files off the cd [06:21] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:21] no dont make an iso [06:21] spook: yep but theres no network for this one, and i cannot create iso..its the bosses [06:21] just take the actual files [06:21] (on another computer) [06:22] The-Croupier: usb key [06:22] thinking of putting a usb-slax in there and freak him out [06:22] tell him by mistake i put slax in his laptop [06:22] The-Croupier: copy the files off the cd onto a usb drive [06:22] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:22] yeah. usb key with the files would work but booting slax from it would be much better :) [06:23] ahh. sorry. i guess you will use linux from now on. [06:23] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Saliendo" [06:23] ... [06:23] having a company meeting in 30mins, so it would be awsome to see him really freaked out before that... o [06:23] elderK (n=zk@222-152-10-225.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:23] Hey folks! [06:23] I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with Gnome on Slackware 12.2? [06:23] i think he might fire me for that [06:23] elderK: folks? -_- [06:24] Heya spook! :) [06:24] Action: elderK takes off mock cowboy hat. [06:24] asap3 (i=80de2514@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-69e1b62e6afbf256) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [06:24] Sorry, too much Clint Eastwood tonight. [06:24] elderK: gnome is not in slackware. there are add ons like gsb etc [06:24] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:24] Aye spook, I am aware of them. The question was if anyone had any luck running Gnome under Slackware 12.2. [06:24] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:24] Not whether it's available. [06:24] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:24] but they are not supported officially. and we dont support them here either [06:25] Joy to the world. [06:26] elderK: do you have a problem or you are just asking? [06:26] Just asking, getting ready to install Slackware so, I was just curious, really. [06:26] :) [06:26] Was also considering trying Debian Etch out, to play with Gnome. But, I hate Debian - I'm a slack man, y'see. [06:26] try xfce, its good. [06:26] very gnomey [06:27] Quite. [06:27] But I dislike Thunar. [06:27] you can change it to not use thunar [06:27] like, konqueror instead [06:27] elderK: what do you think? yes, there are some people using gnome in slackware 12.2 (my "coworker" uses the one from slacky.eu) ... you are not the only one [06:27] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [06:28] Thank you, The-spiki. [06:28] you are not alone in this world of 6+ billion or so [06:28] np [06:28] :) [06:28] :) Didn't think I was alone; Was simply wondering if others had luck, that's all. [06:28] :) [06:29] I heard a guy a long while ago, talking about how he compiled Gnome under Slack12.2 [06:29] I was kind of hoping to catch him here, you see. [06:29] :) [06:29] Action: elderK zooms to Slacky.eu [06:29] :) Thank you for the link, however. [06:30] i like thunar :( but i would really like to try something else (no konqueror) ..could anyone drop any ideas? [06:30] elderK: http://slackfind.net/ is something new to the slackware world... really nice if you're looking at the most popular public repositories [06:30] you need a bigger hammer [06:30] The-spiki: rox-filer [06:30] mc [06:31] end of discussion [06:31] The-Croupier: dolphin? run. [06:31] chopp: rox-filer...lots of configuring the other day... [06:31] dolphin?! [06:31] The-Croupier: pcmanfm [06:31] The-Croupier: PcManFm [06:31] Aye, [06:31] dianna` (n=diana@h71.67.255.206.cable.htsp.cablelynx.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:31] For the longest time, I was using PcManfm with Window Maker and some custom Gtk themes, had it looking quite spiffy. [06:32] The-Croupier: krusader and mc are what i'm using [06:32] Oh, that reminds me - I'm not sure how relevant this is - but has anyone tried the Broadcom STA 32/64 Hybrid driver on stock Slackware-12.2 (kernel 2.6.27-7) [06:32] ? [06:32] 'probing it made Linux mighty panicky, that it did. [06:32] you need 28 [06:32] pcmanfm is something i'm using only on the eeepc (with lxde DE) [06:33] pcmanfm is good [06:33] Sweet. Thanks spook. [06:33] why is it that the japanese come up with the gnome tools taht are light on resources ? [06:33] gnochm , chmsee [06:33] *gnochm vs. chmsee [06:33] PcManfm is okay, as far as standalone managers go. But, It bugs me how I couldn't hide the toolbar (unless there was some conf file I didn't notice). Also, the Volume mounting wasn't working for hell. [06:33] Makaveli4life (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left ##slackware. [06:33] vol mounting works fine for me [06:33] and the toolbar never bugged me [06:34] I did to install little packages - which is probably why it didn't run for me. [06:34] s/did/tend/ [06:36] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-27-83.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:36] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [06:38] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [06:38] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:39] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-38895df965f5b57b) left irc: "restarting" [06:40] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) left ##slackware. [06:43] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Thanks anyway, guys :) [06:46] Have a good night, later! [06:46] elderK (n=zk@222-152-10-225.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving." [06:46] xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-140-156.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:47] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[06:56] and they will come [06:58] naim (n=naim@92.82.178.171) left irc: "Leaving" [06:59] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:00] there is also alienBOB's repo [07:00] good morning strange ppl \o/ [07:03] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:04] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] pptp is horrible [07:07] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:08] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:08] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [07:11] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:14] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:34] Akuma0n4 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:35] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [07:38] kama (n=kama@host129-119-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:40] vinnie_: but but you voided your warranty by going to about:config [07:40] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [07:41] lol... i sure did... I think ive voided every waranty of everything ive ever owned [07:44] vinnie_: or you could use "ctrl+l" or the "alt+d" shortcut :) [07:45] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:46] 2 buttons vs. 1 button. I choose the shortER cut lol [07:48] btw, i believe you could also do it (atleast in the past, seems to me it isn't working in 3.0.6) by clicking on the favicon (the webiste icon left to the url) [07:49] i never knew that worked in the past [07:49] well im off to watch the IU game I dvr'd last night [07:50] cya [07:51] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [07:51] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:51] having some s-ata driver problems with acer notbooks. NB using Ati SB400 chip, s-ata only, but slack will only install P-ATA (hda). Anyone having this issue latly ? [07:53] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-158-164-109.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:53] parsing kernel parameters ( noacpi, etc .. ) and irqpolling does not work. [07:55] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:55] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[08:13] vinnie_, press F6 and you get your address bar highlighted in firefox. [08:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [08:14] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: "Leaving" [08:15] skate_forever (n=leandro@unaffiliated/skateforever/x-2874) joined ##slackware. [08:15] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-52e4c32710c03705) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:16] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:17] dtanner, --MARK-- messages usually help determine when exactly your box stopped responding (and logging) :-) at least for me, they are useful. oh well, sorry for spamming you, just wanted to share. [08:19] i see no spam there! [08:19] yes i know what they are for , i just can;t remember how i disabled them in /etc/syslog.conf before , i have been away from computers for over a year =0 until about a month ago. You did not spam me. =) [08:21] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "have to go" [08:23] dtanner: in the rc file, -m 0 [08:25] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [08:26] hello! what is your favorite X window system, manager? [08:27] packeteer: thanks [08:28] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:29] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:32] nille_ (i=1000@c-3b63e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] geoff_k_ (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "I've got a shed and im going to tinker in it" [08:33] gnubien (n=e@230.255.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:37] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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[08:56] faaaaaark, next year is 2010 [08:56] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:59] arny` (n=arny@79.119.150.209) left irc: "BBL" [09:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-e7d021f5dbefb580) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-abe6a755310e2955) joined ##slackware. [09:03] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] will vlc ever make it to the main slackbuild repo? [09:06] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.77.154) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:06] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-77-154.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:08] well, it's a little complex in that it needs alot of dependencies [09:09] mplayer is better anyway [09:11] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn44.91-127-121.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [09:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: No route to host [09:14] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:15] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008251049.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:17] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:18] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. 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[09:43] good $TIMEOFDAY [09:45] well think I should get around for work even though I just have to pack my lunch grab my books and head out :) [09:50] everytime i open a video in mplayer I get this error, but my sound in the video is working fine. http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9717/snapshot4jx6.png [09:51] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] go to preferences and change your audio [09:52] (^ for mplayer) [09:53] fsck. not coherent again... try, right click, preferences, audio. choose alsa. quit and run mplayer again. [09:53] vinnie_: as The-spiki said since it trying to use OSS [09:54] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] The-spiki, kitche: thanx... its good now [09:56] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:57] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:18] yep [10:19] I believe it was the last two children of dune books [10:19] How difficult would be install Thunar, yukake, icewm...on slackware? [10:19] unless you're including the dune compendium and a couple of others [10:20] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:22] alisonken1home: Hunters of DUNE and Sandworms of DUNE [10:22] he was writing the outline for them when he died I guess and his son and some other guy wrote the books [10:23] alkos333 (n=alkos333@89.106.244.8) joined ##slackware. [10:23] mupi: that's definitely not difficult [10:24] Thunar is already in slackware [10:24] mupi: you might want to use the slackbuilds.org slackbuilds to create packages... or try the sbopkg front end from sbopkg.org [10:26] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.165) joined ##slackware. [10:27] kitche: Cool - It's been a while - I thought GodEmperor was the last one [10:28] alisonken1home: well I went ot the book store and bought the two books since I need some reading material at work or else I'll fall asleept [10:30] alisonken1home: Chopterhouse: Dune was the last novel that Frank Herbert wrote in the dune series [10:32] Action: dive is bored cos everything is working - nothing to fix [10:33] anyone got any ideas for a slackbuild that needs making? [10:34] dive, ha :) .. then a question not slackware related ? [10:35] shoot [10:36] a tool to show mysql memory usage per query .. so if i have 200 queries to show the memory usage of the first query [10:36] What is the average windspeed of an unladen swallow? [10:36] ... [10:37] 1) I don't know enough about mysql to do that. 2) Please enlighten me :) [10:37] Alan_Hicks: European or African? [10:37] coconuts? [10:37] alisonken1home: I... I don't know! [10:37] alisonken1home, the Japan winds :) [10:37] Wheeeeeee :) [10:38] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [10:39] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-235-153.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:39] dive, me neither but i must find something similar :D [10:40] http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/ [10:41] Is an unloaded swallow sorta like an unswallowed load? [10:41] ovnicraft (i=1000@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:41] eww [10:41] wtf [10:41] I wondered how long that would take. [10:41] Alan_Hicks, it doesn't even mention cocnuts [10:41] rworkman: You're *trying* to get on noobfarm again aren't you? [10:41] hah coconuts [10:42] dive: LOL [10:42] dive: That's because it's an unladen swallow. [10:42] African or European? [10:42] Must be European if it doesn't have cocknuts. [10:42] er, coconuts. [10:42] hahahaha [10:42] :)) [10:43] dguitar (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/dguitar) joined ##slackware. [10:43] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:44] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [10:45] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:45] dguitar (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/dguitar) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:45] Now the real question is, at what rate do B-cup breats oscillate at a brisk jog. C-cups? D-cups? [10:46] It depends on the density. [10:46] I wonder if we can plug some numbers into those equations on that page and determine what size breasts must be before they generate enough lift to take an average woman aloft. [10:48] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [10:49] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.100) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:50] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) joined ##slackware. [10:51] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:51] "cocnuts" - almost as good as my "echo shitdown > /sys/power/disk" [10:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.113) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:52] It's ridiculous for me to pay for hundreds of cable channels when there are only a few shows and the news that I watch- it's mostly cheesy, dumbed-down crap- reality TV, QVC, animal psychics, Deal or No Deal, ..., etc. So, instead of cable, I'd like to be able to use my TV with a Slackware box instead. The idea's just to watch what I can grab in torrents, or play from hulu.com-like sites. How doable is this? I've used TV-out with S-video and [10:55] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] don't expect people to help you download illegally shows [10:57] gartt: It's ridiculous for you to expect for a company to pay to produce those shows and not want to at least cover their costs via a subscription method, I think. [10:57] regarding being able to use a regular tv as a monitor, with a video card that has tv-out, that's usually fairly easy. [as long as you use nvidia] [10:58] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left irc: "I'm a professionally trainined computer scientist. That is to say, I am poorly educated" [10:58] eviljames: Well, there are brief commercials on Hulu and stuff. It's just stupid to pay for hundreds of crap channel when you only watch a half-dozen [10:58] I want the one site to work for PC's only works on macs right now [10:59] eviljames: I'm not blaming them [10:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.113) joined ##slackware. [10:59] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:00] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [11:01] gartt: Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I just don't see why you would want to avoid supporting a product you enjoy and would like to see more of. [11:02] Alan_Hicks: good link. as far as d-cups go, oscilations have a direct observable oscilations based on steps per minute, so you can calculate from there :) [11:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:03] c1rca_BR (n=timaum_s@201.17.8.157) joined ##slackware. [11:03] gartt: Aside from the philosophical implications, what you're looking to do is quite plausible. [11:03] #j windows [11:04] kaf-laarous (n=kaf-laar@41.200.183.21) joined ##slackware. [11:04] gartt: I found that the easiest way to get started was to have hardware that plugged into my tv, and then man xrandr [11:04] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) joined ##slackware. [11:04] gartt: From there you should be able to determine which options would be needed for the xorg.conf file [11:05] hello every one [11:05] i have problem .. [11:06] how to add a new language ?? [11:06] xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-140-156.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:06] ananke, eviljames: Thanks, I'll do some reading based on those [11:06] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-235-153.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [11:07] gartt: It will be important to know a few things from your TV's user manual... in case you have something a little obscure and need to write up a modeline. [11:07] gartt: native resolution and such. [11:07] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:07] kaf-laarous: make sure it will cross-compile properly, then add a feed to get the source [11:07] eviljames: What philosophical implications though? :) I watch a handful of shows which are available on legal, hulu-like sites, not trying to get a free ride for my shows or anything [11:08] gartt: I was referring to the torrenting above :) [11:08] eviljames: Ah :) We can pretend I hadn't mentioned that [11:08] haha sounds good to me :P [11:10] alisonken1home, i wold do my desktop with french .. [11:10] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:10] how to do this ? [11:10] mm Windows updates are giving horrible issues to people today it seems [11:11] kaf-laarous: sorry - I thought you were asking about adding a programming language interpreter like python [11:11] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:12] kaf-laarous: However, if you're using x-wrt web interface, then you can ask thepeople at #x-wrt for adding a french language translation [11:12] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [11:12] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:12] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:12] kaf-laarous: sorry - wrong channel :) [11:13] I have my mind on another problem with openwrt and mixed up my channels [11:14] kaf-laarous: are you talking about the cli or the graphical desktop? [11:14] alisonken1home, my english is bad :( [11:14] yes [11:14] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:14] kaf-laarous: Oh, don't worry, it's about college-level here in the US.. [11:15] kaf-laarous: if you're using kde and have the kde i18n package installed, then the kde login manager has an option for selecting language at the login page [11:15] skate_forever (n=leandro@unaffiliated/skateforever/x-2874) left irc: No route to host [11:15] alisonken1home, yes i'm use KDE [11:16] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:16] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:16] there is one language, USenglish , [11:17] i like to change another .. [11:17] but there isn't !! [11:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:18] kaf-laarous: you have to install kde-i18n package as well to get the other languages [11:19] ok, [11:19] kaf-laarous: after installing the kde-i18n package, then go to the k->control center, select login manager, then you can select french language for your desktop [11:19] how to install ? [11:19] renew_01 (n=renew@adsl-68-127-170-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:19] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:20] do you have the dvd or the cd version of slackware? [11:20] DVD version [11:21] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [11:22] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] mount the dvd, go to the slackware->kdei directory. from the cli, you can install with "installpkg kde-i18n-fr-3.5.10-noarch-1.tgz" package. If you use the kpackage manager, you can navigate to the slackware->kdei directory and install the package from there [11:24] kaf-laarous: ^^^^ [11:24] (the package I listed is from slackware 12.2) [11:25] ok, i'm tested this ^^ [11:25] kunwon1_ (n=kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) joined ##slackware. [11:26] once the language pack is installed, the login manager options are for system-wide settings (like the login page), but there's also the option for each user to select their preferred language when they setup their DE after login [11:26] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:27] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.22.165) left irc: ":wq" [11:28] oh no !! [11:29] DVD is not monted ! [11:29] mount: special device /media/SlackDVD does not exist [11:29] hmmm - I usually copy my disks to a /home/slackware/ directory for times like this [11:30] the other option is to manually mount from the cli [11:30] i write this // [11:31] root@darkstar:/home/kaf-laarous# mount /media/SlackDVD /mnt [11:31] Sokenra[IST] (n=psykhe@189.77.61.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] it's correct ? [11:31] IrquiM__ (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:32] IrquiM (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] kaf-laarous: the mount command would be "mount /dev/ /mnt" - would be what the kernel thinks the device type is, like sdX for scsi (or scsi emulation or sata), or hdX [11:33] X is the drive letter [11:34] kaf-laarous: sorry - "mount -t iso9660 ...." [11:34] clear [11:34] mindbndr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [11:34] the -t tells mount which filesystem to use to interpret the media [11:36] this is not easy !! [11:37] kunwon1 (n=kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:38] normally, kde will automount the drive. try opening your filemanager (the home icon on the taskbar), then select "Storage Media" on the left panel [11:38] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:39] http://slackware-fr.pastebin.com/m1cdbf69f [11:40] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:41] kaf-laarous: try "grep ^plugdev /etc/group" and see if your username is listed [11:41] foureyes879 (n=theron@97-113-183-20.tukw.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [11:41] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:42] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:42] root@darkstar:/home/kaf-laarous# grep ^plugdvd /etc/group [11:42] root@darkstar:/home/kaf-laarous# [11:43] kaf-laarous: plugdev, not plugdvd [11:44] ok [11:44] root@darkstar:/home/kaf-laarous# grep ^plugdev /etc/group [11:44] plugdev:x:83:root [11:44] Channel flood from kaf-laarous -- kicking [11:44] root@darkstar:/home/kaf-laarous# [11:44] kaf-laarous kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:45] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:47] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Superbaloo_ (i=FN@energeek.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] why do people paste like that all the time .... [11:48] noobs that are still learning proper etiquette :) [11:48] almost time to go to work [11:49] both of us [11:49] :) maybe is best to add it in the topic [11:49] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] "Topic - what's that?" [11:49] 12:30pm to 9 pm seems like a bit of an odd hours but I do not mind it [11:49] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: [11:50] maybe :) ..but some of them read the topic [11:51] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:52] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Srbo (n=Srbo@tmo-103-90.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Guest23773 (n=nick@69.17.57.162) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] panzer (n=panzer@adsl-220-215-26.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:57] br00tal (n=br00tal@66-188-149-192.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:04] JKRX (n=JKRX@c83-253-180-93.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:05] car managment system? [12:05] the computer in my car [12:05] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:05] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [12:06] good luck with that [12:06] why??? [12:06] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.114) left irc: Client Quit [12:06] i think you should search more general, like "linux embebed in a car" [12:06] that must be interesting [12:06] because i want to OSS my car [12:06] psufan, ask bob [12:07] sounds like u want to HOSE your car [12:07] whos bob [12:07] i already got everything i need in my car [12:07] the management system computer [12:07] a nav system with touchscreen [12:07] psufan, bob is the great brain [12:07] easy [12:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:07] psufan: I'm not exactly going out on a limb here in saying that's damn near impossible. [12:07] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] psufan, he knows everything [12:07] Alan_Hicks: can you give me a starting direction [12:07] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-97355e5a0407b20b) joined ##slackware. [12:07] vncsnvs: please dont troll me [12:08] does anyone know some car security software for UNIX? [12:08] psufan, please dont troll us [12:08] psufan: Yes. Google for people who tune the computer in your car, call them, and listen to their laughter. [12:08] vncsnvs: I'm quite serious [12:08] psufan, develop one [12:08] psufan, me too [12:08] Alan_Hicks: they dont know what UNIX is [12:08] i dont want a bloated linux kernel running my car [12:08] straterra: yea so i was thinking of using one of those tiny linux distros [12:09] like a thumbdrive distro [12:09] last thing i need is a kernel panic when i want to use my abs [12:09] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:09] psufan: you are going to have to roll ur own software solutions. There are software tools for windows/unix that allow you to reprogram ECU and such, but not replace. [12:09] uhm..a tiny distro is still gonna have a linux kernel [12:09] The computer isn't x86. Hell, it probably isn't even ARM. You would have to completely replace ALL the electronic controls in your car, possibly design new hardware that's never been made before, and reverse-engineer the controls. [12:09] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h207-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:09] yup [12:09] yea but x86 is just one of many platforms unix is available on [12:09] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] good luck with the precise engine timings [12:09] and..linux isnt unix [12:09] yea i was going to use the cruise control buttons on my steering wheel to control the computer [12:09] ya, might need RTlinux [12:09] keep in mind, most cars have on average 12 dedicated computers - one for each area of control and a master [12:10] it's unix-like [12:10] aix on my car! [12:10] like play/pause movie, bootup, etc [12:10] psufan: You want me to run down the list? X86, PPC, ARM, all of them, not gonna work! [12:10] Alan_Hicks: :) hi [12:10] replacing your car's computer.... heh [12:10] alisonken1 ah which has the best cpu? [12:10] gar0t0: Howdy! [12:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@89.106.244.8) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] vehicles ecu's on modern cars are very complex [12:10] psufan: hah, now that is funny...what about playing games on the nav display? [12:10] impossible, the time and money it would take to do it wouldn't be worth it [12:10] psufan: their specialized chips - not general purpose computers [12:10] what's an ecu [12:10] especially with something like a mivec or vtec [12:10] lol [12:10] trollness [12:10] psufan: basically... you can't do it [12:10] it's not possible [12:11] its possible but not plausible [12:11] psufan: Basically, you'd come out money ahead hiring some one to build you a completely new car, design the electronics, and write the code. [12:11] zGhost: i just need to code some stuff [12:11] ill open a project on sourceforge get some devs on board [12:11] psufan put his linux ecu in the car and it the whole thing [12:11] i think hes talking about a computer that isnt controling the guts of the car [12:11] zGhost: it's possible - but not legal. the computers+software has to be certified for public road use [12:11] yes i think he's talking about sth like a media station [12:11] well yeah of course its possible [12:11] but how likely [12:11] vinnie_: i already got a touchscreen nav system [12:11] i can just use that for the display [12:11] however, you can access the car data bus for monitoring using linux and some hacking [12:11] the likelyness of it happening makes it to the point of near impossibility [12:11] put some vids on it [12:12] alisonken1: Only to sell the car, IIUC. [12:12] touchscreen nav system doesnt do shit for your ecu [12:12] psufan: u must be talking about a media center type [12:12] Alan_Hicks: nope - it's part of the car registration regardless of how the car is built [12:12] alisonken1: Not in my State. [12:12] vinnie_: yea id like to add that capability to my car management pc [12:13] alisonken1: yeah car regulations are a state-by-state deal [12:13] in the words of mr the plague....give...it...up [12:13] alisonken1: for example, I don't have to have exhaust and vehicle inspections here [12:13] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-198337.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [12:13] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Alan_Hicks: actually, yes. as long as you get the certifications for your state. [12:13] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:13] Hell, I don't even have to have a muffler on my truck and it's legal. :^) [12:13] vehicle registration is a state-by-state basis [12:13] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:13] use on non-public roads is a different issue [12:13] Alan_Hicks: I don't have exhaust either [12:13] i like indiana in regards to car rules [12:14] veeerrryyy lax [12:14] no vehicle inspection [12:14] alisonken1: If that were the case, no one could register a hot-rod. [12:14] i cant wait to cut my cats out [12:14] could i add a humidity detector and rig that to my ecu, and use some OSS to start up my windsheild wipers? [12:14] straterra: feline sugery? nice [12:14] alisonken1: vehicle regulations are a state matter [12:14] Alan_Hicks: first, build to federal specs, then adjust for state specs - it's legal to build your own car for public roads, just follow the regs [12:14] not federal [12:14] straterra: My truck came from the factory without cats. [12:14] anyone know an OSS project for that? [12:14] Alan_Hicks: my car has like 4 [12:15] alisonken1: I know plenty of people that build hot rods, and none of them are the least bit conerned about road regulations. [12:15] Alan_Hicks: my truck has straight pipes and a couple glass-packs [12:15] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:15] Alan_Hicks: you can put water in your gas tank, too, but what happens when you get caught? :) [12:15] Alan_Hicks: 1988 Dodge PowerRAM with a shortbox :D [12:15] alisonken1: Nothing. [12:16] alisonken1: nothing, you just broke your vehicle [12:16] water injection is street legal as far as i know [12:16] can i use python to control abs? [12:16] water? that sounds..bad [12:16] or should i ask #python [12:16] Yes, water injection is perfectly legal. [12:16] cools the intake temps [12:16] i'm pretty sure water doesnt compress [12:16] o.O [12:16] Alan_Hicks: the point is that you can build your own car and get it legal for public roads [12:16] aka, hydrolock [12:16] alisonken1: depending on state regulations [12:16] which are different in every state [12:17] I'd use cry02 before i used water..to cool intake [12:17] so how do i get slackware onto a box that only has a MIDI port??? [12:17] cry02 is cheap [12:17] straterra: water injection is a very common performance enhancer in high-compression diesel engines with large turbochargers. [12:17] psufan: You are an idiot. [12:17] and riced hondas =) [12:18] psufan: ur making joe pa's head hurt [12:18] well? [12:18] you cant help me either huh alan [12:18] psufan: your car is going to end up killing people on the road [12:18] oh..diesel [12:18] I was thinking regular unleaded :P [12:18] no, used on gas engines also [12:18] but [12:18] with turbo [12:18] zGhost: see earlier post on building :) "build to federal specs, adjust for local specs" [12:18] psufan: No I can't help you. No one can. It is currently impossible (or so close that you'd be crazy to waste your time and money on it) to do what you're wanting. [12:18] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) left ##slackware. [12:18] Srbo (n=Srbo@tmo-103-90.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:19] I am thinking of rigging up cry02 on my N/A car [12:19] Alan_Hicks: i think it would be an important step for the unix OSS community [12:19] alisonken1: I'm guessing federal specs are pretty lax [12:19] I would not say impossible, but too many hoops to jump through [12:19] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-97355e5a0407b20b) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [12:19] psufan: unix isnt oss [12:19] psufan: Well, you go get started on that and tell us how it turns out. [12:19] zGhost: federal specs are minimums - states are usually stricter, but follow federal base specs [12:19] straterra: solaris.... [12:19] straterra: there is OSS for unix [12:19] psufan: I suggest you start here. http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [12:20] but unix isnt oss..it comes in many forms [12:20] i wont click .us links sorry [12:20] could be a scam [12:20] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [12:20] lol such a troll [12:20] can we kick this troll? [12:20] psufan: basically what you're trying to do is impossible [12:20] _basically_ [12:20] zGhost: however - you can build to state-only specs, just don't try to sell it in another state :) [12:20] psufan: http://tinyurl.com/6k64vh There you go. [12:20] feel free to waste thousands of dollars psufan [12:20] zGhost: thats what they told lindenbergh [12:20] zGhost: more than that :) [12:21] psufan: yeah, but lindenbergh was trying to something reasonable [12:21] zGhost: cars arent cheap [12:21] you're not [12:21] what you're trying to do is moronic [12:21] maybe oxymoronic [12:21] but not moronic [12:21] maybe fucking idiotic [12:21] Yes, moronic. [12:21] i have a dream [12:21] wasting thousands of dollars to do something that is just reimplementing what you had before? [12:21] zGhost: you have to start somewhere [12:21] ban the troll [12:21] psufan: Yeah, lay off that LSD and your dreams might start making sense. [12:22] and something that automanufacturers aren't going to do because they make too much money on car electronics [12:22] im not trolling, im just defending my position that youre attacking [12:22] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) joined ##slackware. [12:22] psufan: basically you keep asking questions on a subject none of us can help you with [12:22] you're trolling [12:22] feel free to /ignore [12:22] it hasn't been done before [12:22] The only way we could help you is based on past experience [12:22] which nobody has [12:23] so the OSS community can only reiterate whats been had before? [12:23] straterra: I'm not gonna ban him for being stupid. [12:23] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-122-188.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:23] come on [12:23] Alan_Hicks: yea sorry i am only 16 [12:23] he's blatantly trolling [12:24] asking how to install slackware over midi..and claiming .us links are scams.. [12:24] straterra: forgive me for taking a contrary position [12:24] psufan: The only people with the know-how to re-code that software embedded on the firmware of those systems are those people who designed the hardware in the first place, and all that information is locked up tighter than the gold in Fort Knox. [12:24] i get tens of .us scam links a day in my inbox [12:24] psufan: here's some code.... in java for your ABS system [12:24] if (crashing == true) { [12:24] break; [12:24] Channel flood from zGhost -- kicking [12:24] }; [12:24] zGhost kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:24] zGhost (i=joseph@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [12:24] zGhost: what will compile that [12:24] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:24] wtf ever.. [12:24] psufan: the brainfuck intepreter [12:25] interpreter [12:25] rude [12:26] apologize [12:26] ClaudioM_ (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] psufan: Look kid, it's great to have these pie-in-the-sky dreams and all, but no one here is going to be able to assist you. We've all been thoroughly explicit on that detail. [12:26] Also, IRC can be a rude place. Don't expect an apology just 'cause some one said "fuck". [12:26] ok i'll try #ubuntu then [12:26] HAHAHAHAHAHA [12:27] better not, your car may not start [12:27] how rude [12:27] Wojo (i=1000@chello087206253139.chello.pl) left irc: "leaving" [12:27] Wojo (i=1000@chello087206253139.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Alan_Hicks: Carbuntu (now with tread separation) [12:28] josemanuel (n=josemanu@26.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:28] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] psufan: basically what you want to do is theoretically possible... But the amount of money you'd have to invest is beyond your ability as a 16 year old... The devices, sensors, and systems in the car would all have to be reverse engineered or changed [12:29] i have a trust fund [12:29] save that for college [12:29] i have scholarships [12:29] hmm am I missing all the fun? [12:29] to be honest what you're trying to do is overkill for a car that's going to break down in a few years [12:29] Damn... I didn't know community colleges offered scholarships. [12:29] anyway [12:30] zGhost: bmws dont break down [12:30] that quickly [12:30] when they run ubuntu they do! [12:30] how rude [12:31] how is that rude? [12:31] psufan - The Michele Tanner of the 21st century. [12:31] Alan_Hicks: there are scholarships everywhere, fwiw :) [12:31] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [12:31] whos michael tanner [12:31] _poison (n=iostream@p57B2D632.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] psufan: your alias [12:31] ? [12:31] psufan: Nevermind kid. That was before your time. [12:31] alias = alternate name [12:31] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:32] mindbndr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] is that an adult swim reference [12:32] psufan: you know that your goals to recreate the entire computer/sensor system in your car is almost as realistic as a goal to become President [12:32] you're better off running for office dude [12:33] i have a dream [12:33] Alan_Hicks: (and, in defense of community colleges, my best CSCI instructors were at De Anza College, and that's said after getting an MS at state uni.) [12:33] that one day, cars will come with computers running unix [12:33] unix or slackware [12:33] and machine and man will live together in harmony [12:33] i thought id give it to the slackware community, first [12:33] faffi|afk (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [12:34] but i dont think you guys are ready for this [12:34] we aren't, its too advanced for us [12:34] im sorry [12:34] lol, why is it ##slackware? [12:34] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] it's not an official channel, freenode policy is to prepend ## to non-official channels [12:35] is there an official channel? [12:35] no. [12:35] ok :) [12:35] this is as close as it gets [12:35] ah where can i find the official slackware community? [12:35] haha [12:35] i didnt realize i was dealing with amateurs [12:35] Viima`stfu (n=Viima@dsl-lprgw5-febbfa00-254.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] psufan: it's ok [12:35] i was just curious [12:35] psufan: over there ---> [12:35] psufan: the official slackware community is at: irc.efnet.net ... #slackware [12:35] psufan: it on a different server to be honest. [12:36] jescis (n=Jeremiah@adsl-217-158-154.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] zGhost: no they moved. efnet was never official. [12:36] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] you guys dont even know whos leading you [12:36] what a mess [12:36] psufan: /server 127.59.212.18 [12:36] i guess i was mistaken [12:36] how come slack doesnt come with PAM? [12:36] psufan: Pat leads us [12:36] i thought slackware was for real unix users [12:36] psufan: no, thats bsd :) [12:37] psufan: slackware was never for Linux users [12:37] I mean UNIX [12:37] lol [12:37] yea linux =/= (not equal to) UNIX [12:37] psufan: the IRC server that BP{k} described is the correct server though [12:37] psufan: != is the correct terminoligy. [12:37] they have more experienced users [12:37] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) joined ##slackware. [12:37] BP{k}: if youre a coder [12:38] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:38] "/server 127.59.212.18" [12:38] "/server 127.59.212.18" [12:38] Action: Alan_Hicks has about gotten annoyed enough. [12:38] psufan: Try it without the quotes. [12:38] hmm [12:38] psufan: without quotes [12:38] ? [12:39] I put it with quotes so it wouldn't connect me there [12:39] the quotes stop it from being executed [12:39] psufan: /server 127.59.212.18 [12:39] what [12:39] type /server 127.59.212.18 to connect to the official IRC server where Slackware is located [12:39] ah hmm [12:40] psufan: most of us tend to put quotes around commands so they don't get executed when accidently cutting and pasting. [12:40] uhh [12:40] "/server 127.59.212.18" [12:41] like that [12:41] minus the " [12:41] "/server 127.59.212.18 [12:41] remove the first " [12:41] server 127.59.212.18 [12:41] Nevermind.... I think I'll just do it for you. [12:41] oh i got it [12:41] sorry [12:42] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:42] wow [12:42] thanks guys. bye now [12:42] psufan kicked from ##slackware by Alan_Hicks: Alan_Hicks [12:42] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-257e3d52b381047f) joined ##slackware. [12:42] good riddance.. [12:42] or not [12:42] psufan: Please, just go. [12:42] ill just idle now [12:42] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] lol what the hell [12:42] idle is fine, long as you shut up. [12:42] yea if you stop talking to me i will too [12:43] psufan: what? [12:43] so..i want to put vista on my ecu.. [12:43] straterra: last time I heard Solaris scales very well for car technology [12:44] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:44] no..its nicknamed slowlaris for a reason :) [12:44] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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I don't have any windows systems and I'm sure as hell not going to install anything to be compatible with such a dumb operating system [13:18] in my opinion. [13:18] Yeah, mono is just a patent troll waiting to happen [13:19] I should find outthe difference between objective and c++ [13:19] I mean, c++ is C with object oriented extensions basicly [13:19] yeah, same with objective-c [13:20] the difference is: objective-c is a lot more obscure [13:20] It's a Mac/NeXT think I believe [13:20] s/think/thing [13:20] Uh, C++ is more than C with object oriented bits. [13:20] Though it did start out that way [13:20] They've diverged since, and C++ isn't even a strict superset of C. [13:21] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-176-74.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:21] Whereas Obj-C is. [13:23] which makes sense by the name... Objective-C [13:23] C with Objects [13:24] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) joined ##slackware. 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[13:47] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-57-149.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:47] sounds interesting, because I enjoy C more. [13:48] knowing that, I'm curious if I can use objective C to write some assembly functions.. [13:48] lfuser-847 (n=lfuser-8@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-100-98.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:48] guess ill be googling alot tonight heh [13:48] lfuser-847 (n=lfuser-8@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [13:50] Guest23773 (n=nick@69.17.57.162) joined ##slackware. [13:52] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) joined ##slackware. [13:52] On Vista, I want to export drive G: to the samba server on Slackware. How can I do this? [13:53] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:53] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[14:29] it is damn near hell to people with dyslexic tendencies :P [14:30] Starchaser: slackware.com is solely the domain of Patrick Volkerding [14:31] Indeed [14:31] macavity: i found bug after it i wrote email, it has no response... so? [14:31] (sorry for my shitty english) [14:31] Questions about the slackware.com web pages should be directed at info at slackware.com or volkerdi at slackware.com [14:31] Starchaser: if you did not receive a reply maybe he has been too busy [14:31] What address did you email to? [14:32] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:32] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.104.255) joined ##slackware. [14:32] hm... [14:32] i've promlems with packages.slackware.it [14:32] That is not under Pat's control [14:32] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [14:32] define problems? [14:32] What is your problem with that site? [14:33] kezhi (i=moneybag@private.s0cks.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] i've write to fizban@slackware.com [14:33] O_O [14:33] it has a wrong mirrors [14:33] i'm checking it every time (in slackfind.com) it just a wrong ))) [14:34] Starchaser: fizban has disappeared for over a year now [14:34] alienBOB: sad... who is controls packages.slacky.it ? [14:35] Does slackware come with vpn software? I've never noticed it. just want to make sure before I go get some [14:35] I need to work on my servers from behind the firewall [14:35] ys [14:35] which is running monowall [14:35] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Starchaser: slacky IS NOT the same as Slackware. Please [14:36] yes* openvpn-2.0.9-i486-1 [14:36] bhodgins: openvpn [14:36] alright, thanks alienBOB [14:36] alienBOB: sorry [14:36] packages.slacky.it is basically unmaintained as far as I know [14:36] alienBOB: i've mistaked, packages.slackware.it [14:36] alienBOB: is it same? [14:36] packages.slackware.it is what I meant... still in my pastebuffer [14:37] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.114) left irc: Client Quit [14:38] alienBOB: so, can i report to you one bug? [14:38] monowall is so awesome, damn [14:38] I will not be able to do anything with your report Starchaser [14:39] alienBOB: who is can to do smth? [14:39] i don't know where i should report... [14:41] fizban at slackware.com was the right adress [14:41] heh... [14:41] my mailbox says it email doen't exists ) [14:41] then maybe he died [14:42] dead people cant fix bugs... [14:42] sad [14:42] very sad [14:42] or somethign [14:42] maybe he just started using ubuntu [14:42] maybe he went back to his homeplanet. [14:42] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:42] ubuntu people cant fix bugs either.. [14:42] "whois slackware.it" has his physical address in Italy if it's important enough. [14:42] maybe he just started using ubuntu // may be died is better? =))) [14:43] it amounts to the same for us :P [14:43] =))) [14:43] what is your native language? [14:44] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:44] macavity: hou do you think?) [14:44] s/hou/how [14:44] russian? [14:44] =) [14:44] of course [14:44] ok, i cheatet and used /whois :P [14:44] =))) [14:45] lol [14:45] Ya nemnogo govoryu po-russkii, no mnogo zabil davno. [14:45] many years ago i could speak a little russian [14:45] hahhaah [14:45] znas srpski Chance22 [14:45] :D [14:45] nay? [14:45] lol [14:45] Ya nemnogo govoryu po-russkii, no mnogo zabil davno. // tvoy russkiy ne tak ploh, improve this ;) [14:46] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [14:46] zErOaCid (i=slacker@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:46] Chance22: "your russian is worth shit" if i am not mistaken [14:46] hahahha [14:46] no [14:46] it mens, [14:47] Izuchayu kazhdii den, chut. No ya dolzhen govorit kem-to skoro [14:47] that his russian iz better than mine.. [14:47] umm, no =) nice guess tho Mac [14:47] anyhow, ill have to remind you that the channel language is english :-) [14:48] Izuchayu kazhdii den, chut. No ya dolzhen govorit kem-to skoro // ty govorish ne plhoho, horoshaya praktika ;) [14:48] yup, not a problem =) afk a min [14:48] Starchaser: lol [14:48] macavity: where from are you?) [14:48] Denmark [14:49] macavity: so u now some norvegians? what is the mostfamous writer from dansk? [14:49] josemanuel (n=josemanu@26.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:49] or who is.... [14:50] "from dansk"? [14:50] ive never heard of a country called Dansk :P [14:50] Xaviertoor (n=JJ@189-015-76-176.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Action: Starchaser nerver been in denmark ) [14:50] hans andersen [14:50] :p [14:50] but no, i dont know any norvegians.. as they generally live in Norway [14:51] Jens-Martin Eriksen :) [14:51] pupit: dude.. my *neighbour* is called Hans Andersen [14:51] lol [14:51] :D [14:51] Action: Starchaser never leave sibeaia [14:51] Action: Starchaser never leave siberia [14:51] if you forget the Christian part you target about 8% of the male population or whatnot :P [14:52] Action: BP{k} likes the question though. [14:52] "oh you live in $COUNTRY, do you know any people from $OTHERCOUNTRY [14:52] macavity: I didnt forget it. [14:52] BP{k}: too stupid ;) [14:52] vor (n=s@bzq-79-180-117-30.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] BP{k}: yes, its lovely isnt it :P [14:52] BP{k}: finaly someone sees it.. [14:52] :D) [14:53] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] 20:55 < macavity> but no, i dont know any norvegians.. as they generally live in Norway [14:53] ^^ "finally"? [14:53] Norvey? [14:53] typo* [14:53] Nord [14:53] macavity: i spent all my life in siberia, but i'm lett... so ? =) [14:53] a) i am dyslexic, b) english is my third language [14:54] pupit: fail* [14:54] macavity: yep [14:54] for me too.. [14:54] Starchaser: Siberia?.. that sounds cold :P [14:54] Starchaser: and evilish hot in the summer? [14:54] macavity: http://chronos.nsu.ru/tv/graph/ it's nearly my home now ) [14:55] oh FUCK [14:55] =))) [14:55] serisously gyus.. you should see that if you understand what celcius is... [14:55] straterra (n=straterr@2001:470:8a81:0:0:0:0:2) left irc: "leaving" [14:55] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] wtf... ? [14:56] i know im from serbia... [14:56] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [14:56] macavity: new definition of "cold"? [14:56] straterra (n=straterr@2001:470:8a81:0:0:0:0:2) joined ##slackware. [14:56] oh look it was -19 .. a warm day ;) [14:56] BP{k}: no, cold is something beer is... this is... molecular stasis or something [14:56] and I complaing about the 15o I have here [14:56] Starchaser: and evilish hot in the summer? // summer is hot also, i hate summer and winter... i love sprint and autumn [14:57] macavity: hehe, I've seen a show here where they took hot water from a thermosflask in siberia .. poured it into a cup and threw it into the air ... [14:57] i love (not like) i really LOVE [14:57] Starchaser: that makes sense :-) [14:57] never made it to the ground .. as 'water' [14:57] oh look it was -19 .. a warm day ;) // where are you now? [14:57] BP{k}: yep [14:57] Xaviertoor (n=JJ@189-015-76-176.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] i know im from serbia... // where are you live in siberia? [14:58] pupit/Starchaser: at what temetature does care tires shatter like glass? [14:58] *car [14:58] *tyres [14:58] hahaha [14:58] BP{k}: geif spellink abyliteiz naow! [14:59] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:59] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] Starchaser: I think he meant "Serbia" in eastern Europe. [14:59] vor (n=s@bzq-79-180-117-30.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: [14:59] jkwood: no [14:59] u think clearly jkwood [14:59] jkwood: it's asia... i'm from Movosibirsk [14:59] Serbia != Siberia [14:59] NOvo* [14:59] *Novosibirsk [15:00] haha [15:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [15:00] Starchaser: I know, you're from Siberia, pupit is from Serbia. ;) [15:00] sorry... i'm drunk enought, i'm typeing bad ((( [15:00] happy ENDING! [15:00] Action: jkwood wins for once [15:01] macavity: if temperature too slow car will not start withour tyres ;) [15:01] nvision (n=nvision@g229122211.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:01] k [15:01] macavity: i have subaru impreza it died few days ago )))) [15:02] and if u see some pornstar in Siberia, u musti be realy drunk and that pornstar is some old lady.. [15:02] hahaha [15:02] pupit: why old?) [15:03] naiad (n=mmyers@s209-121-198-56.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] because, only old ladies care for drunk people there.. [15:04] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h38-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:04] "old" what is age in years? ;) [15:04] 60-70 [15:04] u name it.. but not below 55.. [15:04] oh fuck... [15:06] kezhi (i=moneybag@private.s0cks.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Creamsoda and Pepsi mix [15:06] how weird :-/ [15:06] a lot of womans in siberia dies before this age =) [15:06] i dont believe u Starchaser [15:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] pupit: where you lived in siberia? [15:06] no, [15:07] but i know [15:07] Just trying to keep up. How old is 55 when converting from metric system? [15:07] Chance22: 55 [15:07] 30.000miles [15:07] its a good car [15:08] if u know the weather conditions there.. [15:08] pupit: what a car? [15:09] Chance22: 17 cubic feet per fluid gallon i think [15:09] Starchaser: its for Chance22 [15:09] Action: jkwood is so utterly confused [15:09] =) [15:09] Is that accounting for daylight savings time? [15:10] here are some 55 and counting proof: http://www.articphoto.co.uk/search/previews/ry0047-27m.jpg [15:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:11] I think that pic made CyberS0nic's computer crash. [15:11] Chance22: ah, no, in that case it becomes 13 mule powers over farenheit's constant [15:11] and some hot chicks: http://www.articphoto.co.uk/search/previews/rko0004-29m.jpg [15:12] Action: edman007 slaps pupit [15:12] What's the conversion from mules to mustangs again? [15:12] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.132.118) joined ##slackware. [15:12] edman007: What!? [15:12] pupit, you lie [15:13] ooo [15:13] Chance22: At least 3 pi per annum. [15:13] Chance22, just derive it! [15:13] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) left ##slackware. [15:14] edman007: I'm trying, but I keep plugging in Avogadro's Number for some reason.... [15:14] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.132.118) left irc: "Reconnecting" [15:14] "our house, in the midlle of a street" http://www.articphoto.co.uk/gallery2/arctic/peoples/samirus/rko0077-20.htm [15:14] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.132.118) joined ##slackware. [15:14] one is 82y [15:14] other 80 [15:14] hi [15:14] wow [15:15] halrv now even has documentation; for anyone interested to test it: http://github.com/rg3/halrv/tree [15:16] Chance22, a mule can produce 16 square acres per millimeter, a mustang can do 12 cubic light year-meters per gallon [15:16] rg3: nice one! ;) [15:16] how many ounces is a stone? [15:16] BP{k}: you should know this? [15:17] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [15:17] A stone is 20 pounds? [15:17] macavity: shitload. [15:17] :P [15:17] haha [15:17] Action: pupit makes a note.. [15:17] 1 stone = 14 pounds. 1 pound = 14 ounces [15:18] (depending on imperial/us/etc/whatever) [15:18] 1 stone = 224 ounces [15:18] kg ftw! [15:18] 196 ounces [15:19] what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold? [15:19] qneo: huh? 224/24 = 16? [15:19] *224/14 [15:19] edman007: Your mom. [15:19] 16 ounces in a pound [15:19] ok [15:20] dive, not always... [15:20] if its gold there are only 12 [15:20] o0 [15:20] macavity: no, I got it from the bot, I didn't calculate it in that way ;) [15:20] if i had 12 ounces of gold i wouldnt care much [15:20] hahaha [15:21] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:21] dive, 1 pound of gold (or other precious metals) are all done with the troy system, thus 1 pound = 12 ounces = ~373grams [15:21] with other materials, 1 pound = 16 ounces = ~454g [15:21] so it all makes sense.. there are 28 grams to the ounce and there are 16 ounces to the pound and there are 14 pounds to the stone [15:21] what will a slacker do to two ubuntu users if they stuck on apt-get? [15:21] why the HELL came up with this?!? [15:22] pupit: Drive them crazy with an air of superiority? "If you used slack you wouldn't have to worry about crapt-get." [15:22] not bad... at all [15:23] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) joined ##slackware. [15:23] ... and there are 1948 letters to the page and there are 27 pages to the chapter and there are 350 pages to the book... unless it is a book about UNIX, in which case there are 135 pages to the chapter and 3500 pages to the book... kkthxbai fanboi! [15:24] macavity, wait till you get onto old english money [15:24] 12 pennies in a shilling [15:24] dive: uhm.. i dont... *evar* [15:24] 240 pennies in a pound [15:24] ok, thats 12*12 [15:24] 5 bob = a crown [15:24] no [15:24] 12 * 20 [15:24] ah [15:24] right [15:24] doo [15:24] Was that to make it easier to determine an hourly wage? [15:25] how do I make the gui terminal show command run on each tab? [15:25] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] Nick change: Guest23773 -> npad [15:25] lets go shopping for nails! [15:25] Chance22: no, it was to make sure the noble could rip off the lower classes... only tbe noble could afford a math teacher :P [15:25] how much are the 3 penny nails? [15:25] macavity: heh [15:25] I see "untitled" on each tab [15:25] please stop it.... [15:25] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] Action: edman007 freeze dries pupit [15:26] npad: what particular terminal emulator is that? [15:26] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) joined ##slackware. [15:26] npad: konsole? Terminal? xterm? [15:26] X Terminal Emulator [15:26] Terminal [15:26] XFCE? [15:26] KDE [15:26] npad: wats the problem ? [15:26] it must be using hidden file to determine what to label its tab title [15:27] I'd like to label each tab according to the command being run, such as 'vi foo.txt' [15:27] npad: does it say "shell konsole" in the top left corner? [15:27] sorry "shell - konsole" [15:27] tabs in xterm ? [15:27] i have many files open - the window title is "untitled" [15:27] are they there ? [15:27] npad: hello? [15:28] npad: does it say "shell - konsole" in the upper left corner? [15:28] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] no [15:28] it says "Untitled" [15:28] josemanuel (n=josemanu@26.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:28] neither Terminal nor Konsole say "Untitled" in the top left corner [15:29] so, please check again... TOP LEFT CORNER of the window... [15:29] does it say "Terminal" or does it say "shell - konsole"? [15:29] on my 4th terminal window, it says "Untitled <4>" [15:30] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] untill you can tell me the real name of the program i cant help you [15:30] real name of the program is Terminal [15:30] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] it has a $ in a monitor for icon? [15:31] yes [15:31] ok, so it IS the XFCE terminal [15:31] like i asked uou about ten minutes ago [15:31] lol the 'help' meu says Terminal 0.2.8 [15:32] now, you pick the menu called "Terminal", and there you pick "Set title..." [15:32] and that is about as close as you are going to get it with that program [15:32] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] okay so it cant be dynamic and set the title as I execute commands [15:33] And you can run konsole under XFCE. Lots of nice features there. [15:33] ok thankx [15:34] npad: think about that again [15:34] npad: you type "ls" and what happens? [15:34] hi [15:34] npad: ls flashes by for a micro seccond... then it is back to "bash" in the title :P [15:34] hi y'all [15:34] but I see at some times such as 'ssh foo@univ.edu' [15:34] konsole would be a hell of a lot better if it recognised http and email links like terminal.. [15:34] 'le psufan [15:34] then 'vi foo.txt' [15:35] dive: it doesnt? [15:35] les cavities [15:35] not unless 4.x does it [15:35] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:35] macavity yes I already reckon but so what? [15:35] ok [15:35] if thats what you what [15:35] it's going to look fun with a script... [15:36] especially if it is one of mine :P [15:36] how can i replace my treadmills onboard computer with SLACKWARE? [15:36] dive: Mine does in 4.2. [15:36] dont treadmills require PAM? [15:36] psufan: download iso image; burn iso image; boot new dvd; install slackware; be happy [15:36] pam? [15:36] psufan: Yes. Get cracking. [15:36] pam is no problem [15:36] pam? [15:37] psufan: I think I have a link to a HOWTO: Installing Linux on a Dead Badger, it might help. [15:37] macavity: no dvd, only a MIDI port [15:37] O_O [15:37] psufan: Pluggable Authentication Modules. [15:37] Well, we should be able to work with that. [15:37] you just want to play nethack on its little mileage display huh [15:38] no [15:38] no games this is for workout [15:38] 1 - 100 of about 293 English pages for nethack on my treadmill. [15:39] ? [15:39] no games [15:39] i want it to show inclination level [15:39] Action: BP{k} sighs [15:39] and position on course [15:40] psufan: do you like mibbit? [15:40] nullboy: no [15:40] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] so you've given up on your bmw and now going for a treadmill? [15:40] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [15:40] BP{k}: i can afford this project first [15:40] btw.. what is a treadmill? [15:40] that is, i know the medival concept [15:40] a treadmill is a automatic running simulation machine [15:40] but in terms of computers? [15:41] for what is /etc/shadow ? [15:41] psufan: slackbook.org [15:41] ? [15:41] pupit: It knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men. [15:41] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:41] ok i have another q [15:41] Greetings Programs! [15:41] how can i get SLACKWARE onto my TI-82? [15:41] jkwood: haha [15:41] psufan: you can not and you know it [15:41] jkwood: no.. realy.. [15:41] ? [15:42] default slackware doesn't do ARM, let alone TI [15:42] josemanuel (n=josemanu@111.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:42] pupit: read passwd(1) [15:42] pupit: It also stores password hashes for users. [15:42] who suggested the Google G1 to me as a phone last night? [15:42] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) joined ##slackware. [15:42] i dont care about defaults [15:42] NyteOwl: iphone is better [15:42] psufan: stop trolling please, you're becoming quite tiresome [15:42] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.221.131) left irc: Client Quit [15:42] jkwood: thanks.. [15:42] psufan: please try to be a bit more reasonable [15:42] ok [15:42] NExt time a kick is not all you get [15:42] im just 16 [15:42] NyteOwl: That would be me. [15:42] I do not believe that psufan [15:42] pupit: You're welcome. [15:42] alienBOB: he was going on earlier how he wanted to "put slackware as the control system of his bmw" [15:43] why not [15:43] BP{k}: bmws have a control knob [15:43] BP{k}: I know - I witnessed the end of it [15:43] just ban all of mibbit already. that service is hardly used for sane purposes [15:43] id like to fiddle with the knob and control unix [15:43] psufan: in that case you should shut up more and listen more... that is why you have only one mouth yet two ears [15:43] im deaf in one [15:43] jkwood: article I came across today - http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=981&tag=nl.e102 [15:44] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:44] from a ted nugent concert [15:44] psufan: Slackware is available for X86-compatible (more or less) computers - not for embedded boards [15:44] psufan: then stick a sock in your mouth to even up [15:44] it isn't available here anyway but still ... [15:44] alienBOB: what flavor is UNIX is? [15:44] trolls these days can't even troll effectively [15:45] it's a sad state of affairs [15:45] psufan: look UNIX up on wikipedia [15:45] ... I just don't get why ... [15:45] why what [15:45] because your quesion is not answerable [15:45] why the weird behavior [15:45] #ubuntu gave me answers [15:45] riiight [15:45] go ask there again [15:46] no [15:46] oh wait, i know why The Moon is Waning Gibbous (93% of Full) [15:46] that makes sense. fits right in with #ubuntu [15:46] im done [15:46] but asking what flavor of UNIX slackware is is completely daffed [15:46] thats not what i asked [15:46] because slackware is not, and will never be UNIX [15:46] nullboy: that's probably as good an explanation as any [15:46] is english not your native language [15:46] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] or do you just have aspergers [15:47] sorry but "what flavor is UNIX is" is not valid english [15:47] of unix [15:47] psufan: and yes, i just happen to actually DO have aspergers [15:47] color me surprised [15:47] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:47] any more funny questions?= [15:47] now im colored [15:47] psufan: you're 16 right? [15:47] (English is also not his native language, ironically enough.) [15:47] ya [15:47] jkwood: lol.. i didnt catch that one :P [15:47] psufan: you seem to have a fairly strong understanding of syntax and grammar [15:48] nullboy: ya [15:48] strong enough in your ripe age to determine whether or not someone is a native speaker [15:48] ive learned it at school anyway [15:48] Action: jkwood syntaxes nullboys grammar [15:48] im not that young bro [15:48] 16 isnt a child [15:48] psufan: that's interesting [15:48] then why are you acting like a child? [15:48] Its also not a grown up either. [15:48] because im 16 [15:48] psufan: s/child/teenager/ [15:48] >_< [15:48] Its kind of like.. an alien lifeform [15:49] last time I checked, 16 counted as a child [15:49] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] NyteOwl: Well, that sucks. I wonder if the unlocked dev phone has similar restrictions? [15:49] maybe legally [15:49] Sometimes it makes sense.. other times it doesn't. [15:49] ok well i have a job interview in 10 minutes [15:49] so ill have to go [15:49] theyre calling me from manhattan [15:49] psufan: we have a kid here who is 12... he does better than what you are currently managing [15:49] jkwood: probably if it relies on Google's servers for data storage, or if you nered a google account for activation [15:49] macavity: at what, trolling? [15:49] lithixium (n=lithixiu@87-194-55-205.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:49] s/nered/need [15:50] who's 12 - nullboy ? I *knew* it ! :) [15:50] psufan: Actually, at Linux. [15:50] oh im a win 7 user [15:50] psufan: mostly because he shuts up and listens.. and only ask when he have a *concrete* problem that he researched be for he asked [15:50] Good luck with that. [15:50] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] heh [15:50] macavity: im sorry i dont have aspgers [15:51] psufan: what? [15:51] asperergus [15:51] *aspergers [15:51] lol [15:51] whats that supposed to mean? [15:51] Action: dscpl0 is amused [15:51] I don't have asparagus either. [15:51] i ate it all [15:51] Action: jkwood suddenly craves picled asparagus [15:51] each and every ass burger [15:52] alienBOB: OP? [15:52] im sorry [15:52] ill go now [15:52] bye [15:52] jkwood: you should try it asparagus spears in mushroom/cheese sauce mmmm [15:52] :) [15:52] bye y'all [15:52] Fare thee well. [15:52] i have a phone interview for a job but i have to poop so bad :| [15:53] psufan: bring the phone to the toilet [15:53] tmfi [15:53] im out of TP [15:53] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] psufan: back away slowly and just leave using nonthreatening body language [15:53] I thought you were leaving? [15:53] Action: NyteOwl still hasn't picked out a new cell phone :( [15:53] ive left that previous conversation, jkwood [15:54] >_> [15:54] if nullboy wasnt dependant on using mibbit from time to time, id vote for a permban [15:54] i never use mibbit [15:54] i want it banned [15:55] I believe that was me. [15:55] roger [15:55] And, not so much anymore. [15:55] bye y'all [15:55] i'll show you what i use [15:55] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [15:55] As long as my server is up, I can ssh in from pretty much anywhere. [15:55] jkwood: you only use it in case linode craps out dontcha? [15:55] good mibbit has a hole the size of grand cannyon [15:55] BP{k}: Yep. And here at home, I can use irssi without problems. [15:55] what hole [15:55] its absolutely no good for hostmask obfuscation [15:56] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:56] what a coincidence: (2009-02-11 12:57:11) Idoru.: (notice) *** Notice -- Tor is temporarily blocked due to abuse. Please consider using gpg-tor, see http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor for details. Apologies for the inconvenience! [15:57] why does oftc never have to do shit like that? [15:57] psufan: i though you said you used windows 7?!? [15:57] i do? [15:58] and? [15:58] heh I can get into freenode via tor, but it's a private network :) [15:58] tcp fingreprint still maches Vista [15:58] odd.. [15:58] *matches [15:58] win7 is vista sp2 [15:58] no [15:58] not really. 7 uses most of the guts of Vista [15:58] yes really my friend works at MS told me so [15:59] but they usually update the fingerprint resonse [15:59] this guys needs a good +b as it seems clear that it will not end [15:59] nullboy: thats cos people talk to me [15:59] sorry [15:59] i am wondering why people use even vista, not win 7 [15:59] cos win7 isnt totally stable yet [15:59] Nick change: rk4n3 -> troll [15:59] psufan: i didnt ask u. [15:59] its not my fault I keep spewing crap - you allkeep talking to me [15:59] i can't believe that nick is free [16:00] Nick change: troll -> rk4n3 [16:00] :) [16:00] amazing! [16:00] i can haz to register! [16:00] be my guest [16:00] macavity: trollina ;) [16:00] macavity: it's still beta. they're currently redoing the UAC thing - again. the POS [16:00] or maybe we should let slackboy register it :P [16:01] NyteOwl: i'm just on the wire with my "windows buddy" [16:01] k [16:01] NyteOwl: he assured me that W7 has a distinct tcp fingerprint from Vista [16:02] go figure [16:02] hmmm, linode prices aren't bad but muchly oversold methinks :) [16:05] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] i need a VPS on the mega cheap [16:07] NyteOwl: Not a chance. [16:07] someone thing that allows ssh and maybe even running privoxy on it [16:07] do any VPS providers allow that type of stuff? [16:07] I can't even tell that I'm using a virtualized server. [16:07] _mr_S_ (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:07] nullboy: Any of them should. [16:07] nice [16:08] It's literally a virtualized machine. You admin it like it's real hardware. [16:08] nvision (n=nvision@g229122211.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [16:08] naiad (n=mmyers@s209-121-198-56.bc.hsia.telus.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:09] Linode doesn't oversell hosts. At all. If they run out of available nodes, then new customers just have to wait for new hosts to be put in. [16:09] is linode a public company or is it still privately funded? [16:09] Also, each host has only nodes of a similar type (360s on one host, 540s on another, 720s on yet another, etc.) [16:10] Private, I believe. [16:10] when will they have an IPO ;) [16:10] i want in on that [16:10] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [16:10] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) got netsplit. [16:11] Here we go... [16:11] what is wrong with niven? [16:11] its been niven for the last few days [16:11] mayhem [16:12] _mr_S_ (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] Chance22 (n=chance@75-27-143-63.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:12] I saw kornbluth go. [16:13] [21:11] Netsplit wolfe.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [16:13] eek [16:13] ugh, my sendmail daemon is hanging at "recepient names must be specified" and the boot process is not continuing, how do i alleviate this [16:13] ctrl c isnt working [16:13] boot single user [16:14] i mean runlevel 1 [16:14] how [16:14] at the boot prompt from lilo type the kernel name and just follow it with a 1: boot: 2.6.blah.blah-blah 1 [16:15] at the boot prompt. the only coice i get is Linux [16:15] choice* [16:15] nullboy: I'm pretty sure those lol's were in response to my question about when the IPO is coming. ;) [16:15] faffi: good [16:15] so then boot: Linux 1 [16:15] haha ok [16:15] i didnt think it was so simple [16:15] faffi: then get into the system and chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail [16:15] Whoa... netsplit on oftc. [16:15] for now at least [16:16] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got lost in the net-split. [16:16] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) got lost in the net-split. [16:16] Action: jkwood goes looking for major internet outages [16:16] nullboy: indeed, i know that much, but i cant find anything online about this stupid error, i havent changed a single thing for sendmail except the quelength and it broke [16:17] wow.. it looks like Mesa is going to provide D3D on X within a forseable future [16:17] I was just going to say, nullboy you join #linode, and oftc gets the splits too. Are you behind this? ;) [16:18] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) joined ##slackware. [16:18] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [16:18] chopp: damn! [16:18] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:18] someone else blamed me for a netsplit once too [16:18] hehe [16:19] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Does MythTV have its own distro? [16:22] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [16:23] i think it has at least a livecd setup to try [16:23] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) joined ##slackware. [16:23] v3gard_ (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [16:24] macavity, link to source? [16:25] ccfreak2k: its on the mailing list [16:26] It seems kind of far-fetched...I thought Mesa was just an implementation of OpenGL. [16:26] oh... you have not heard of the impending comming of the light that is known as Gallium3D? [16:27] the mesa people are ripping the entire backend out [16:27] Sounds painful. [16:27] anyone in here use tvtime? [16:27] Also, I know Gallium3D only by name. [16:28] and creating a generic framework that reduces codesize for drivers with an order of magnitude [16:28] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: No route to host [16:28] the new model uses TGSL (Tungsten Grapchics Shader Language) internally accross all drivers [16:28] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:29] then, just as the sceene is about to be rendered LLVM creates exacutable code of the internal reprisentation [16:30] that is, if a given GPU doesnt have feature F, the remaining code just gets translated in to sse instructions instead [16:30] this gives them a supper neato system where graphics API is seperated from the hardware [16:31] Action: Khratos brb, going home... [16:31] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [16:31] as in, you write the API once, and it works on all gallium based drivers :-) [16:32] poetry in motion imho :P [16:33] i_is_cat: yes, i use tvtime [16:33] higuita, ever come across this before? http://tinyurl.com/dbrm74 [16:34] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] i_is_cat: lol [16:34] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] nope, but that is a TV channel problem [16:34] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:34] tvtime dont have anything for the subtitles [16:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-45-135.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:35] thats what im wondering.. is it the network? or tvtime itself? or something else on my system..... it only stayed there about a minute or two then disappeared [16:35] broadcast glitch [16:36] happens with our Discovery Channel from time to time too (on the regular telly that is) [16:36] hmm cool good to know thanks macavity :) [16:36] though just for 2-5 secs or so [16:37] maybe i should email the food network and ask them lol they'd be like wtf?! [16:38] i_is_cat: or sue you for copyright infringment... [16:38] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] i_is_cat: you DID produce and redistribute an orthorized screen shot :P [16:39] jkwood: sorry, was afk for a bit. re linode. there is no way they don't oversell. forget the server and storage 200GB for $20? that's 10 cents a GB. Show me a bandwidth provider that sells even in large amounts for less than about 50 cents a GB? [16:39] lol but its for educational purposes :P [16:39] i_is_cat: ... with the sole intent of pointing out something negative about Food Television Networks(R)(RM)(C)(Patent Pending) [16:40] s/RM/TM/ [16:40] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [16:40] I mean it's standard practice (unfortuantely) in the hosting business but I find it disengenious as a marketing practice [16:41] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] NyteOwl: that is 10 cents a GB per month [16:42] nille_ (i=1000@c-4f63e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:42] NyteOwl: all that means is that linode customers tend to stay there :P [16:42] macavity: yes, and you can't buy good quality bandwidth even in bulk for less than at least twice that price [16:42] no - it usually emans that when you get close to actually using all those resources you get dinged for "overuse" [16:43] NyteOwl: does Free work? [16:43] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [16:43] I've seen it happen far too often. but it sure looks like you get a lot for your money - which is the whole point ofd overselling [16:43] mbhayes: huh? [16:43] I get my hosting for free. [16:43] Actually, no. That's a "soft limit"... If you hit the 200 gig limit, they don't shut you off. For a couple of gigs, they don't even really care. You can upgrade on the fly, though. [16:44] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Success [16:44] ah, now i read it right [16:44] NyteOwl: you were severly missing a , in that sentense [16:45] jkwood: I daresay that if you hauled down 200GB/month or clsoe to it consistantly a reason would be found to force an "upgrade or cut you off" I've seen it happen far too oftenr. That bandwidth price is not sustainable if the clients actually start using all of it [16:45] mbhayes: get me some :) [16:46] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-155-174-113.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] NyteOwl: most people probably dont... [16:46] benone (n=benone@66.110.125.4) joined ##slackware. [16:46] macavity: of course not, that's what lets them get away with it :) [16:46] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] as I said it's pretty standard practice to oversell in the hosting industry [16:47] I just don't consider it a good business practice [16:47] NyteOwl: but if they know that 97% of their customers only use, say 30 of the 200... then why should bother that you use it all? [16:48] NyteOwl: i mean... it is not going to be a problem to them at all if you go close to the limit (or overshoot it with 3%) [16:48] NyteOwl: I agree with you - it is a bit misleading - it wouldn't hurt them to be explicit about it, and then they could actually price "tiers" of service accordingly [16:48] does anyone know something about the software of R-fx Networks? (http://www.r-fx.ca/proj.php) [16:48] NyteOwl: you will be in the "unpridictable noise/rounding error" collumn on page 710 of their anual repport anyway [16:48] rg3_ (n=rg3@62.32.145.109) joined ##slackware. [16:49] macavity: becasue even a few custoemrs using all the allocvation will severely eat into operating profit. selling bandwidth for elss than you pay for it is a losing proposition [16:50] you'r kidding me, right? [16:50] to them it is all average trafic [16:50] NyteOwl: I think you mean "more" [16:51] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.132.118) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:51] rk4n3: no. when you oversell you sell essentially for less than you are paying and hope that your customers actually use less than you sold them. If they use more than your breakeven you start losing money [16:51] jackware (n=jackson@201-75-28-8-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:51] zErOaCid (i=slacker@cpe-69-203-220-240.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] macavity: yes but a few high use clients can tip that average the other way [16:51] no [16:51] not a few [16:52] NyteOwl: ah, OK - I was more looking at it that you *have* to oversell, because if they can get it cheaper from your supplier, you have no business model [16:52] depends how badly you oversell [16:52] they have more clients than you have pairs of socks and pairs of underpants combined [16:52] no, it depends on what kind of customers you have :P [16:52] if you have 1000000 small webshops :P [16:53] then i can bloody well guarentee you that even if *all* your remaining 500 bittorent seeding arseholes put it to the max, then you *still* know how much you made at the end of the day [16:53] rk4n3: the overselling idea is that I contract say with Peer1 for 1000GB at 50 cents a GB. I then sell 30 hosting accounts of 100GB at essentially 10 cents a gb. I do that hoping that they won't actually use all that bandwidth [16:54] NyteOwl: we understand the concept [16:54] if even a fraction do then I'm in trouble which is why so many hosting companies shut down websitees for "overusing resources" when they get close to their account limits [16:54] NyteOwl: i just think you mistake about how many is even remotely and in your wildest dreams even *able* to use more than.. what?.. 20GB? [16:55] NyteOwl: granted - that's relying on "elasticity" in the usage ... but I was more thinking of scale ... presumably you pay x cents per bg because of the volume you purchase, and you sell to your customers at y cents per bg where y > x, because they're buying smaller chunks [16:55] s/per bg/per gb/ [16:55] rk4n3: yes, ideally you add your profit marginadn sell only what you can deliver. if you have access to 1000GB you sell 1000GB not 3000GB and hope people won't sue it [16:56] er sue [16:56] use damnit [16:56] NyteOwl: my point initially was that it might be good to have "tiers" of explicit elasticity ... where lower tiers are "oversold" more, and upper tiers are less so [16:56] NyteOwl: the more elasticity, the lower the markup [16:56] rk4n3: that's sometimes done though not often [16:57] NyteOwl: again, the vast vast majority of their users are small .coms that eventually go belly up.. but they paid $20/mo for as long as they lived.. and the small ones never got about 10 hits a day [16:57] peopel are always coming on my hosts forums saying "why are you so expensive I can get 500Gb and 2000GB for $5/month at XYZhost. [16:57] the reason is no overselling [16:58] ah, why didnt you say right away that you ran your own biz [16:58] I think the host would know how much bandwidth they use on average. [16:58] you have to defend your idea [16:58] I don't run a hosting business. I emant the company I host at [16:58] this is just marketing fud then [16:58] NyteOwl: I agree its not done enough - that's where I was agreeing in how misleading the whole thing can be - they should be more explicit about it, sell it correctly, and we pay correctly based on what we're buying :) [16:59] rk4n3: yes - we're on the same page [16:59] for big stuff you are right [16:59] but for what the *vast* amount of users need, they could even say "no limit" for $20 and still make a case [17:00] ok, that would attract the *wrong* kind of users right away [17:00] macavity: it doesn't change how misleading that really is, though [17:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [17:00] rk4n3: if its a decent company (which people say linode is), then they will stick to their end of the bargain [17:01] indeed - hopefully the "bargain" is explicit/accurate enough for them to do so :) [17:01] 15:59 < HoopyCat> like everything else that uses the internet, linode pays for enough bandwidth to act as an ideal, first-approximation packet source/sink for most applications. anything beyond that would be silly and impossible. [17:01] rk4n3: that is, the few cusomers they have who actually, month after month, use to the limit... well... thats part of doing buiz [17:01] I think that's about the best answer I've gotten. [17:02] jkwood: yes :-) [17:03] jkwood: but it really doesn't address the issue. It just says we guessed at how much we'de need and that's the best we can do [17:04] if they guess right, and dont get knee jerk reactions towards the marginal issues... then whats the problem again? [17:04] everyone is happy [17:04] ok, how about they guess wrong? [17:04] then they lose money? [17:04] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [17:05] just like you know.. everyone else in buiz who takes a wrong turn in Alerquerke? [17:05] yes, they do - but ultimately their user will lose too since they don't actually have the product to provide [17:05] As I said it's common practce, just not a particularly good oen [17:06] if you are big *enough* it becomes hard to guess wrong over time [17:06] Ah, [17:06] because it is not a guess anymore [17:06] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] Albuquerque, New Mexico. The most mis-spelled city name in the USA. [17:07] Alan_Hicks: I usually solve that by using AlbeQQ :) [17:07] NyteOwl: Even that's wrong. It should be AlbuQQ. [17:07] Alan_Hicks: The never-spelled-right-by-northeren-europeans in New Mexico [17:07] Alan_Hicks: true enough :) [17:08] ODB RIP [17:08] alba kirk e. [17:08] he died a long time ago. [17:08] yea; sad [17:08] big l rip [17:10] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:12] lithixium (n=lithixiu@87-194-55-205.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:12] albuquerque is a easy name... at least for spanish and portuguese speaking people, dont know why you have problems with it... isnt like hard to speak/write massachusetts!! [17:12] :) [17:12] and frenche people too ;) [17:12] massachusetts is easy to spell if you are navajo [17:12] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:13] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:14] Camarade_Tux: i assume that all latin languages have albuquerque, but i didnt want to risk that :) [17:14] rg3_ (n=rg3@62.32.145.109) left irc: "Quit" [17:14] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] mircuist- (n=info@89-28-88-91.starnet.md) joined ##slackware. [17:14] I pronounce the first 'que' in albuquerque nearly as latin ;p [17:15] mircuist- (n=info@89-28-88-91.starnet.md) left ##slackware. [17:15] Øster Jermitslev is easy to spell if you are danish :P [17:15] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-122-188.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:16] likewise with Nørumsnede Åby [17:16] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [17:17] i survived the tornados in oklahoma and i did not even get a lousy t-shirt [17:18] heh :P [17:18] macavity: hi man :) [17:18] sup dawg :P [17:19] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [17:20] anyhow.. time to hard reboot my brain [17:20] hehehe [17:20] I'm using my laptop, but I'm using an LCD Desktop monitor. How can I disable the Laptop's LCD screen? Using Slackware 12.2 [17:20] Old_Fogie: latest bugfixes to quickbuild.sh are uploaded now. [17:20] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:21] thar be pirates broadcasting on 6925KHz upperside, but i do not have a good copy of their signal or modulation [17:21] skibur: try the fn+F? key to switch the screens or play with the xrandr [17:21] yeah, I've been trying [17:22] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:22] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:22] skibur: xrandr [17:22] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] more pirates on 6950KHz, slightly better copy, playing a Black Sabbath song [17:22] hum... [17:23] I'll try xrandr [17:23] skibur: eg, xrandr LVDS --off [17:23] ok [17:23] skibur: see the manpage for details; run xrandr with no argumetns to see what is connected [17:23] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] dont forget to turn on first the other, if not, you will be "blind" or a network user :) [17:24] skibur: it is probably "xrandr VGA --off" in your case [17:24] well, I want my VGA to stay and laptop off [17:24] ok I see the output now [17:24] oh, right [17:24] im tired [17:24] I'll play with it [17:24] xrandr LVDS --off [17:25] .. i think :P [17:25] good night folks [17:25] night [17:25] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [17:25] thanks [17:25] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:25] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:53] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:54] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:55] hey this one is for you guys [17:56] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:56] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h38-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:56] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h38-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:56] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [17:58] can anyone tell how do i stop cron from delivering mail to my mail client ? [17:58] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [17:58] http://rafb.net/p/mzMCPW39.html [17:58] >/dev/null 2>&1 ? [17:59] mm, actually, you may need to add a blank "MAILTO" [18:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-45-135.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] thrice`, where [18:02] http://www.google.com/search?q=cron+quit+delivering+mail&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.slamd64:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [18:03] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:03] thrice`, executing from shell does not give me any output though [18:03] thrice`, this is what cron is trying to execute [18:03] agiofws@ixus:~/bin$paste < nextrace [18:03] Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/ffGpmn24.html [18:03] Channel flood from Agiofws -- kicking [18:03] [18:03] Agiofws kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:04] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] benone (n=benone@66.110.125.4) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] */5 * * * * /home/agiofws/bin/nextrace [18:05] */5 * * * * /home/agiofws/bin/nextrace >/dev/null 2>&1 ? [18:05] will that fix it ? [18:05] did you try it? [18:05] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] just did [18:06] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) joined ##slackware. [18:06] it'll have to take some time to see thanks though [18:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:10] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [18:12] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.80.231.209) joined ##slackware. [18:12] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:13] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.39) left irc: [18:13] rocko (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] hello [18:13] rocko (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:13] hashed_ (n=hashed@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] josemanuel (n=josemanu@111.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:17] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [18:18] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-2601.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:18] hello [18:18] where to post bug reports? [18:20] well, which bug? [18:20] ktorrent is not working after upgrade of kdelibs (kdelibs-4.2.0-i486-2.tgz) [18:21] Is it ktorrent for kde 3? [18:21] ktorrent from -current [18:21] no [18:21] xaviertoor (i=1000@189-015-84-046.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:21] what does it say when you run it ? [18:22] it says that his get "wrong data from tracker" [18:22] almost on all torrents [18:22] all torrents using the same tracker? [18:23] no, 3 or 4 trackers [18:24] "torrent not registered with this tracker", "Invalid data from tracker" [18:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U heres a cool tune [18:32] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@68.149.60.47) left irc: "pre-defined quit message" [18:32] Pig_Pen, a bit slow [18:32] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:33] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) joined ##slackware. [18:33] eh! [18:34] How can I set my local time from console? [18:34] google? [18:34] what is your local time? [18:34] man time [18:34] well I've tried zic -l localtime but it's off by many an hour. [18:35] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [18:36] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-66-142-212-112.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-2601.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] staimeer (n=staimeer@201.29.94.134) joined ##slackware. [18:38] ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock -systohc [18:39] yeah I tried the man page for time earlier... didn't say anything about setting the time as far as I read. [18:39] man date [18:39] gg [18:40] tribeca (n=naitso@host64-243-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [18:41] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl89-115.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [18:41] hahaha [18:41] THanks thrice [18:42] I updated it and it turned my screen saver on thats funny. [18:42] :> [18:43] i find it best to set the clock in the BIOS to local time (24 hour) and then copy the timezone info as /etc/localtime (from /usr/share/zoneinfo), if you dualboot other distros (especially debian & debianish distros it will screw with the BIOS clock) [18:44] staimeer (n=staimeer@201.29.94.134) left ##slackware. [18:44] no that's wrong [18:44] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl71-33.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:44] works for me [18:44] set bios clock to utc and then adjust the timezone in the OS. that's the proper way to do it, afaik [18:45] oh bullshit! you can set the BIOS clock any damn way you like, [18:45] i agree with Pig_Pen. BIOS clock needs to have priority definitely [18:45] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@s207-216-242-139.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] anyone in here have a problem with kmail displaying mail folders for imap servers in slackware 12.2? [18:45] weirdos! ;P [18:46] What ever way that works for your needs is the right way :) [18:46] NyteOwl: nice :P [18:46] or rather not displaying the folders [18:46] but if u click them it shows the mail in the right pane [18:46] That said I use UTC in BIOS and let the OS apply the correction as I multiboot this machine [18:47] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] i set my time in my bios and my os's then just know what time it is because thats what the bios says lol [18:48] bios is old and crappy. cant wait to be able to try coreboot [18:49] well basically all the phones that Bell have for free with their packages except the Pearl have crap reviews. great. no bargains ehre :( [18:49] coreboot is decent, but it doesnt support very many mobos yet. [18:49] SM177Y, it supports my board. partially. no ACPI :( [18:50] i'd have to get a soldering iron to have it installed too [18:50] which is a pain as if i mess it up, i have to fork out 65 quid for a new mobo [18:53] most motherboards have the BIOS chip plugged in to a chip socket, all you need is another BIOS chip and that little tool to unplug the old one and popping in the new one can be done without the tool [18:54] mine's an SPI [18:54] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.173.154) joined ##slackware. [18:54] http://www.coreboot.org/GIGABYTE_GA-M57SLI-S4 [18:55] there's a secondary pad that you can use, and there are mods for it, but it's a little risky [18:55] those cheap bastards [18:55] i'd be more interested in seeing this annoying Linux kernel io bug sorted out [18:56] i like how on wikipages, you click on an image thinking it's a link to more subject matter but it's just a link to the images URL... thats really useful. [18:56] heh [18:56] thanks for the info, i will be sure to never buy a Gigabyte motherboard [18:57] Gigabyte boards aren't too bad [18:57] they're quite nice [18:57] MSI are just as cheap but at least they use a chip socket for the BIOS [18:57] MSI is shite [18:58] no more a stinking turd than gigabyte [18:58] DralaFi: what mobo do you have? most of the ones in the list are old like 939 and older amd chips and just mostly a ton of old server sockets [18:58] All mine are Tyan except this box which is Asus and my terminal machine which is a SBC and backplane [18:58] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:58] SM177Y, DralaFi http://www.coreboot.org/GIGABYTE_GA-M57SLI-S4 [18:58] i happen to like MSI. id take msi over gigabyte hands down tho [18:59] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] arent they a cheapy brand? [18:59] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:59] i never had a problem with MSI boards [18:59] didnt say there was a problem with them [18:59] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:59] stop being so defensive ;) [19:00] stop being such a troll :D [19:00] not troll, more like a shill? ;) [19:00] one man's shill is another man's troll [19:00] omg i'm such a turkey - solved my problme - ignore my orriginal q [19:01] Pig_Pen, hehe [19:01] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [19:02] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left ##slackware. [19:02] actually i would say gigabyte is more of the quote on quote "cheapy" (not saying i hate gigabyte.) brand. at least compared to MSI [19:03] ive never had a problem with gigabyte just that the msi boards ive had were much nicer and seemed more just all around sturdy than any gigabyte ive had [19:03] hmm. a lot of online component shops price MSI cheaper than gigabyte [19:03] (i think) [19:03] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] lower price does not immediately make something lower quality by any means [19:04] true [19:04] msi has some decent deals lol for sure [19:04] :) [19:04] Action: NyteOwl prefers Tyan and Intel. Asus is generally good for desktops but their support for some thigns sucks [19:04] SM177Y: it does when you get hookers [19:05] straterra: never had to pay for sex :P [19:05] you dont know what you're missing out on [19:05] lol [19:05] she actually LEAVES afterwards [19:05] HAHA [19:05] thats the funniest thing ive heard all day. thats awesome man [19:05] lol [19:05] It's money well spent, IMO [19:05] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:06] straterra: if u dont get gonasiphiherpalitus [19:06] :P lol [19:07] no..but you might get herpasyphilaids [19:07] goodnight everyone [19:07] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-155-174-113.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:08] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:09] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:13] ya just as bad... [19:14] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) left irc: "[BX] Elvis has left the building" [19:14] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) joined ##slackware. [19:15] wtf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:4377_-_Bern_-_Kindlifresserbrunnen_am_Kornhausplatz.JPG [19:19] thats evil, what city displays a statue of someone eating children? [19:22] Pig_Pen right? lol pretty twisted. 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[19:44] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] Ping alienBOB do you know it ethtool works iwth bonded ipv6 cards? [19:46] no it doesnt [19:46] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:46] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] ipv6 cards? [19:46] dood i want and ipv6 card [19:46] whatever that it [19:47] adrenaline: btw, pretty much all bonding is done at link layer (layer 2) so ip version is irrelevant [19:47] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] what up peps? [19:53] Hi lotec! How are you? [19:54] happy [19:55] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Leaving" [19:56] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:56] Thanks spook [19:56] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:56] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [19:59] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:00] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [20:01] two communications satellites collided in orbit, resulting in two large clouds of debris. The new threat from these debris clouds hasn't been fully determined yet. From the article, 'The collision involved an Iridium commercial satellite, which was launched in 1997, and a Russian satellite launched in 1993 and believed to be nonfunctioning. Each satellite weighed well over 1,000 pounds.' This is the fifth spacecraft/satellite [20:01] collision to occur in space, but the other four were all fairly minor by comparison. [20:02] i better not do that again :| [20:02] Pig_Pen: possible to bounce signals off of the debri ? [20:03] maybe [20:03] just hope the debri does not bounce off YOU! [20:04] it sounds like space around the earth orbit is getting very messy [20:04] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [20:04] heh [20:04] Action: foureyes779 hopes not too.... [20:05] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:05] Pig_Pen: they are predicting some SunSpot activity this weekend, you have your 10M gear fired up ? [20:05] everything that is bound to stay up in orbit will decay in to junk that will collide and become more skattered junk [20:06] yup, always got my 12 thru 10 fired up & ready [20:06] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:07] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] 27.555 USB or as a backup 27.545 USB [20:07] Pig_Pen: we dont get a lot of openings up here in the NW [20:07] i heard a chicago station booming in like a local station today [20:07] Pig_Pen: although we had an opening to the S. cook islands a few days ago on 10M [20:08] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [20:08] Pig_Pen: that was really cool to hear them on 28.431 SSB [20:08] the cook islands are off the west coast of south america? [20:08] Pig_Pen: other than that, there hasn't been any for months [20:09] out in the south pacific? [20:09] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [20:10] i do not run or even own an amplifier so the max output i can TX is about 12 to 20 watts [20:10] mib_6uvs9ufc (i=51d053f7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5d65b1f63b0f535b) joined ##slackware. [20:10] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rah" [20:11] Pig_Pen: yeah, down in the S. pacific. I thought the 2950's did 100W or so ? [20:11] the 2970 does 100w [20:11] hi all [20:11] Nick change: mib_6uvs9ufc -> bebbo [20:11] Pig_Pen: aah, ok..... [20:11] Nick change: bebbo -> bb-it [20:11] the 2950 is about like a CB radio with lots of extra bandwidth [20:11] eeeGuitarman (n=steve@s207-216-242-139.bc.hsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] I have a Galaxy DX11 base that is similiar. it is one of those 11-10M rigs [20:12] 24.000 to 32.000 AM,FM,SSB & CW [20:12] I have it put up, and eventually want to convert it to 10M only [20:13] this one is 25-29MHZ [20:13] 28 to 29.7 [20:13] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl71-33.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [20:13] dgo (n=dgo@unaffiliated/dgo) joined ##slackware. [20:13] Pig_Pen: you ever convert a CB to 10M radio ? [20:13] why remove 11 meter & cb capability, you might want to listen to truckers on a road trip on the interstate [20:14] Pig_Pen: just to avoid the hassle really. Dont want any of the anal retentive Old timers flippin out [20:14] no, i have seen some cobras get upper & lower channels, but they only go as high as 27.855 and as low as 26.525 [20:14] Pig_Pen: it is a base station [20:15] Pig_Pen: I have an old TRC-448 11M mobile I want to convert to 10M also [20:16] http://cbtricks.com/radios/realistic/trc_448/index.htm foureyes779 (does not look to be an easy hack, you will probably have to change the 10.240 crystal) [20:17] that shouldn't be TOO hard really [20:17] there are channel kits you can either buy or have installed that can give it extra channels, but most cheap CBs are not all that capable, you would be better off buying a 10 meter rig [20:17] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [20:19] anyone have any idea why vim ignores textwidth when editing an XML file? I know this isn't the forum, but it's driving me crazy. [20:20] there are a few CBs that make putting in extra channels a snap, if you ever see a Midland 79-290 grab it, they are not real powerful but are as easy as holding down a couple of buttons while turning the unit on [20:20] Pig_Pen: not an iridium satelitte! i like those [20:21] Pig_Pen: thats half the fun.... [20:21] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] isnt iridium deadly poisionous [20:21] Action: foureyes779 sucks down his iridium-mocha [20:21] mmmmm [20:22] Pig_Pen: irridium is the name of the network of sattelites [20:22] at night they are often mistake for a shooting star [20:22] that kenwood i recently bought was fun, that chip resistor was so small i could hardly see it with magnifiying glasses and i had to move it to the next soldier pad [20:23] dgo (n=dgo@unaffiliated/dgo) left irc: "Leaving" [20:23] irridium is a mineral too, rare on earth but plenty in space and in meteors [20:23] Pig_Pen: you ever have a problem with the PL tone board in yours ? [20:23] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] Pig_Pen: mine is workong erratically from time to time [20:24] no, i did have to go to another city the other day and i took it with me and accessed a repeater, i did not talk on it but i did key it up [20:24] Pig_Pen: I was running the club net last week and had the tone board quit on me several times [20:25] going to have to put it on the bench and figure out what the heck is ogin on with it [20:25] that optional tone board that keeps the radio quiet unless a tone is recieved? or the tone board that allows access to a repeater? [20:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:26] Pig_Pen: both actually [20:26] CTCSS tone's [20:27] can it be adjusted? it might need tuned [20:27] Pig_Pen: well, actually I blv they are the same board, could be different in an older rig like this one [20:27] the newer ones use the same board for both duties [20:28] not sure, hasnt acted up since that one time, just dont trust it now [20:28] the kenwood 731A has one built in to access repeaters, but it also has an option to have the squelch kept closed unless a tone is received, mine does not have the tone squelch so mine hears everything [20:29] just one time? it could have been a problem with the repeater (not your radio) [20:29] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:30] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [20:30] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [20:31] Pig_Pen: not sure, I blv it was the radio though, as no one else was having a problem getting into it [20:32] dont be too quick to judge your radio as having problems, it could have been any number of things, just wait and keep using it as normal until you can be sure before you decide to do something about it [20:32] what brand and model radio is it? [20:32] Pig_Pen: ok, tnx [20:33] version 2 [20:33] Pig_Pen: gotta run, have a radio club meeting tonite [20:33] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [20:33] 73 TU and gUd DX [20:33] ok, take care foureyes779 [20:33] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [20:33] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:37] vim solution to textwidth not working :set formatoptions+=t [20:44] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [20:45] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:48] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. 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However, when I edit the slackbuild script for both nvidia-kernel and nvidia-driver to use this driver instead of the provided one, it creates the package, I can install it all just fine, but when it comes to startin [20:58] prodigy: you need to change xorg.conf [21:00] spook: there isn't much to change really. the old one should work just fine, uses the same nvidia driver even X -configure doesn't want to work for me [21:00] well, it does, but it comes back with the API-Mismatch error when I try to run X [21:00] you need to change the device section to use driver "nvidia" [21:00] bb-it (i=51d053f7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5d65b1f63b0f535b) left ##slackware. [21:01] spook: and that's what i'm trying to say, the old xorg.conf that worked fine with the 8500 gt should be no problem for the 9800 gt (both use nvidia) [21:02] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] just use the nvidia installer for the driver. it has to link the driver against your xorg version etc [21:04] yeah, I was afraid that this is what I'll have to do, was hoping to use a slackbuild package for this so I can easily remove or upgrade it rather than not knowing where everything is being installed to. [21:04] also another question: can I use 8 gigs of ram on slackware since it's 32 bit [21:05] no [21:05] not unless you use PAE, but that only helps with system ram limits, processes are still limited to 2? 1GB? [21:07] so if I decide to use slamd64 can i still use most of my 32bit applications? (mainly concerned about the games I play off linux) [21:07] slamd64 is multilib, it will run both 32 and 64 bit [21:07] slackbuilds will also work just fine on slamd64 [21:07] maybe i should give that a try then, having 8 gigs but only using 3 is not really ...efficient :D [21:09] be aware that bluewhite64 is a rip-off of slamd64, with no credit given, and is pure 64, it will not run 32 bit. [21:10] spook: Nah, I don't want to use anything besides slackware and/or slamd64 :) [21:10] prodigy: just making sure you know :) [21:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:14] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:14] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [21:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. 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[22:13] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] _theradar: what about it since fluxbox is not really meant to be run as dual monitors you sort of need to run fluxbox on two X servers I believe unless that has changed [22:15] <_theradar> kitche: it seems to work pretty well actually with one exception - when I right click for the menu on the second monitor the menu appears on the primary. Not a huge deal but a little annoying. [22:17] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [22:17] _theradar: nvidia/twinview? because I never had that problem. [22:17] <_theradar> chopp: radeon/xrandr [22:19] ok, not sure then. It took me a couple days to figure out how to get adesklets split between the two, but otherwise was simple. [22:20] <_theradar> chopp: OK thanks - I'm sure I'll stumble on the fix eventually [22:20] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:21] _theradar: I'm sure you will. :) [22:21] <_theradar> chopp: I was being optimistic but thanks for the faith :D [22:21] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:22] nullboy: http://wychwood.co.uk/beers_fiddlers.htm \o/ [22:22] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:23] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:23] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:26] i had island brewing jubilee [22:26] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.80.231.209) left ##slackware ("... Jesus paid it all, All to Him I owe; Sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow."). [22:30] hba (n=hba@189.188.144.210) joined ##slackware. [22:31] erbi_ (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. 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[22:36] rk4n3: the "Stimulus Package" has a lot of things in it but the filter I don't doubt considering that Obama has many lobbyist from the RIAA and such in his admin which he said he would not have any lobbyist [22:36] hmmm ... not good [22:37] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:38] kitche: yeah he's got a few lobbyists in the cabinet [22:39] and tax evaders [22:39] XGizzmo_: :D [22:39] Action: Old_Fogie is a "Conservative in Exhile" [22:40] I bought the alien quadology yesterday man I can't believe that when I was younger I was scared of the alien movies lol [22:40] me too - I had nightmares from the first "Alien" movie for years as a kid [22:41] kitche: funny isn't it. I've noticed that too with stuff I saw as a kid, thought the same thing. [22:41] "Salem's Lot" was another one ... [22:42] ever see any of the first Frankenstein's, I had nightmares over them. Now you look at them and want to laugh, it's funny. [22:42] somew movies I am still scared to watch but it's not really the movie it's just how the director put it together really [22:42] like nightmare on elm street I watch them just that they still scare the hell out of me [22:42] Old_Fogie: yeah, I had nightmares of the Lon Chaney Wolfman movie, too [22:42] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:42] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.148.109) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Old_Fogie: for some reason, Frankenstein wasn't that scary to me - I think its because he was too human [22:43] Old_Fogie: now, Nos Feratu ... *there* was a scary movie ... [22:44] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:44] rk4n3: ah I see. I think, back in them days, had you made a movie like what we see now, even with the lack of the real looking effects, you'd have had a mass hysteria, and uprising and outrage by people about the movie. So maybe that was why he looked so human? [22:45] rk4n3: yea his head still freaks me out now. [22:45] Old_Fogie: you mean like Dawn of the Dead which was made on like $20 [22:45] Old_Fogie: nah, look at Nos Feratu [22:45] rk4n3: well there was alot of outrage on that one believe it or not. [22:45] religous groups, etc [22:46] Old_Fogie: oh, yeah ... I forget about that [22:46] Nos Feratu is that vampire movie correct? [22:46] yes [22:49] some1 highlight me please [22:49] lw0x15: Hi [22:49] mgs` (n=mgs@unaffiliated/mgs/x-0000001) joined ##slackware. [22:49] lw0x15: light [22:49] lw0x15: stop making dirty proposals in the channel please [22:49] lol [22:49] thanks [22:49] BP{k}: go to sleep :P [22:50] lw0x15: nah, bed hasn't been warmed up yet ;) [22:50] warm it up yourself [22:50] lazy ;> [22:52] lw0x15: no. [22:53] that's what I have kethry for ;) [22:53] your lucky she's not on irc ;-D [22:53] lw0x15: uhm..... /whois kethry ;) [22:53] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-152-74.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:53] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [22:54] oh..aha [22:54] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] arisv (n=jesus@ppp-94-66-144-129.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [22:55] BP{k}: sys admin family [22:55] lol [22:55] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] hello people. how can I load ndiswrapper module automatically on startup? I did a modprobe -m (it created the alias) but it doesn't load it, any ideas? :) [22:55] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:55] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] lw0x15: nah, she's slowly learning to do more with slackware. She does like using it though. :) [22:56] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-148-226.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:57] jescis (n=Jeremiah@adsl-217-158-154.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] blackorca (n=blackorc@68-244-129-165.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] arisv (n=jesus@ppp-94-66-144-129.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] anyone has a clue about what can be causing this http://pastebin.com/m7df8578c [23:00] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left ##slackware. [23:01] wow, you can watch the whole "Nosferatu" movie (from 1922) at http://www.joost.com/33i7hco/t/Nosferatu?gclid=CIqWrJmL1pgCFQwxawodkBfvbA#id=33i7hco [23:02] I use a sata pci adapter, now I'm thinking about getting better sata cables to see if the problem goes away [23:03] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:05] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-163-145.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:07] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:17] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:17] would anyone happen to know of an easy-to-use (easy-to-use, as in, my grandma should be able to use it) screenshot utility that offers the ability the ability to select/draw the focused to-be-shot recatange-area? [23:18] prodigy (i=1000@pool-71-97-108-177.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:22] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [23:23] nfoss (n=mobile@32.154.168.163) joined ##slackware. [23:24] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:26] Wee: Use ksnapshot [23:26] nfoss (n=mobile@32.154.168.163) left irc: Client Quit [23:27] wasn't on KDE, didn't know about that. anyway, this little thing called "gscrot" seems like a good solution. thanks anyway though :) [23:27] factotum (n=factotum@68-188-208-164.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] nfoss (n=mobile@32.154.168.163) joined ##slackware. [23:28] Wee: You don't need to be in kde. I have it in my xfce menu. [23:28] I am also sure it pops up if you hit the print screen button. [23:28] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:28] with gnome, something other than ksnapshot pops up for me.. [23:29] MasterShrek (n=MasterSh@71-87-39-128.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:30] MasterShrek (n=MasterSh@71-87-39-128.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:31] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [23:33] I finaly got a co-worker to quit nagging me about slack, he's been running *buntu since 6.whatever [23:33] briareus: curl --basic --user "yourusername:yourpassword" --data-ascii "status=try this out it really updates your twitter" http://twitter.com/statuses/update.json [23:33] He once again asked me why I bother with Slackware and told him "because I figured out what applications I want to use" [23:34] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h38-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) left irc: "Client exited" [23:34] zing [23:34] Viima`stfu (n=Viima@dsl-lprgw5-febbfa00-254.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [23:34] then I asked him how the pinning was going with apt and he just sort of sank in his chair a little [23:36] it was an overall gratifying day, wish i had more of them [23:37] factotum: I do understand the appeal of sharing insight, but inner peace will only come with the realization that using slack is a decision made for you, not for others :) [23:38] rworkman: ping [23:39] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:39] oohhhhmmmm.... yeah it's great. The kids hear what it is and they're eyes light up. They all want to see it and get disappointed when all I have to show them is a bland openbox desktop to tinker with hehe [23:40] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-257e3d52b381047f) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [23:40] factotum: heh [23:40] rk4n3: but for me inner peace came when I realized one day that they're just computers and playing with my kids is more fun [23:41] factotum: oh, now that's just blasphemous [23:41] :) [23:41] well of course [23:41] :P [23:41] nfoss (n=mobile@32.154.168.163) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Sony Playstation 2 today!" [23:41] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:41] Packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] *ding* kernel's done. have a good night all! [23:42] factotum (n=factotum@68-188-208-164.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:46] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [23:49] Packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:50] Packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] lw0x15: ping [23:53] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [23:56] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:59] arisv (n=arisv@ppp-94-66-144-129.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:59] hello. how can I enable that patch? http://pastebin.com/m3fc9354f [00:00] --- Thu Feb 12 2009