[00:00] should i just create /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss ? [00:01] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [00:01] create? it exists here and I didnt put it there [00:01] doesn't exist on mine [00:02] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137100.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:02] look here [00:02] http://nullkey.ath.cx/et-sdl-sound/ [00:02] they give some commands there, on that last forum i linked to, i would try them, had to do something similar with et to get sound... aha, guess thats how it got there [00:03] yes c0nflict, I also have sound working in et [00:03] sycofly (n=chatzill@122-57-142-36.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:04] subgeniusd (n=chatzill@user-1121vih.dsl.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:05] Fen1x (n=fen1xbox@fen1x.kraslan.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:09] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.102) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.138) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:10] hey id like to combine my wlan and my eth bc they are on seperate internet lines, i know its possible and i can specify interfaces for certain apps but thats tedious and not exactly what im looking to accomplish. so anyone know a way to accomplish this??? [00:12] you want to bridge them so they look like they are on the same subnet? [00:12] I got it c0nflict [00:12] using the sight i linked above [00:12] their work around script... well... works. ._. [00:13] SM177Y --> http://rafb.net/p/e68Ke085.html [00:14] SM177Y: change the eth1/eth2 interfaces to suit your needs. Also, your wan and eth clients need to be on the same subnet [00:14] now if i could figure out a way for it to let my mouse leave the game [00:15] cool that that worked [00:19] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-72-91-120-225.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "The game." [00:19] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:20] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:23] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:24] hum well channel sure died [00:25] tlkg (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:26] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-72-91-120-225.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:26] hba (n=hba@189.188.152.188) left irc: "leaving" [00:28] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:28] it dies a few hours a day [00:29] I blame MS [00:30] i r here [00:30] lol [00:30] i can haz irc chat? [00:32] no lolcats allowed. [00:33] RAmen [00:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [00:33] the top kind? [00:35] maruchan [00:35] i pay the extra 6¢ [00:36] it comes down to 30cents here [00:39] tlkg (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] hey guys. another question. how do i set this machine to autologin and startx on boot? [00:40] set the default runlevel to 4 [00:40] in /etc/inittab [00:40] but only n00bs do that.... ;) [00:40] did that. how about the autologin? [00:40] hehe my mom is a noob. :) [00:40] its her eee [00:40] ahh [00:40] dunno about auto login [00:40] hmm.. yeah me either [00:41] are you sure you want that [00:41] I bet its a google away [00:41] startx might be too much [00:41] but a password is something she should be used to having if she's going to use a computer anyway [00:41] hiptobecubic, yes. startx is too much for her [00:41] if you use kde you can setup autologin [00:41] xfce [00:42] i would rather not have kdm running anyway. this machine isnt the fastest [00:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:43] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:43] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] anyone ever notice a slight desync of visual to sound with google videos? [00:43] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:43] tlkg, you might try not using xdm at all [00:43] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] just put su -c "path/to/startx.xfce" or something? [00:45] the answer is just a google away, I swear [00:45] SiegeX, ive been googling and i have not found anything that works [00:46] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:46] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152274 [00:46] factotum (n=mike@24-247-105-121.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] we use agetty, but it has -l just like the getty example [00:47] have you tried not launching xdm at all? and just calling the wm/de? [00:47] from runlevel 4? [00:47] SiegeX, lol... letmegooglethatforyou.com [00:48] SiegeX, i did this one... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31310 [00:48] and it didnt work [00:48] ahh [00:48] edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local [00:49] add these lines... [00:49] echo "auto login for username" [00:49] cd /home/username [00:49] su - username [00:49] that took care of the autologin but didnt start xfce [00:49] put startxfce in rc.local as well? [00:49] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] Cann0n: ya, I was feeling generous, plus for some reason the 'im feeling lucky' didnt seem to work =) [00:50] lol [00:50] put it in your ~/.bashrc [00:50] that seems dangerous [00:50] what if she calls a program that runs from a shell [00:50] won't that startxfce again and kill everything [00:50] who was it that uses the deathvalley1 wallpaper? [00:51] sorry not ~/.bashrc, your ~/.xinitrc [00:51] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [00:51] SiegeX, that's better :D [00:51] hmm... [00:51] rebooting.. [00:51] http://imagebin.org/35529 [00:51] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "rehash" [00:52] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:52] http://www.unixporn.com/screenshots/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=10017&pos=-160 [00:52] :) [00:53] hmm... added it to rc.local and that didnt work. ill try .xinitrc [00:53] nice [00:54] i dont like thunar or yellowish oragne colors... but that is a very nice set up [00:54] Cann0n, i like yours [00:54] i just use tango icons [00:55] I haven't spent anytime making mine look good. everything is just grey [00:55] can i get that .conkyrc? [00:55] im not a huge fan of yellow but that just really seemed to work out [00:55] sure [00:56] never seen that set up for conky [00:56] at the bottom? [00:56] i never put a much time into conky really. I always have huge windows open all over the place so i don't see my desktop enough anyway [00:57] tlkg_ (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] i use multi desktops often [00:57] factotum (n=mike@24-247-105-121.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:57] me too [00:58] i just always have them full of crap :D [01:00] hmmm it may not go [01:00] i am so anal about how my desktop looks. [01:00] thats an awesome conky config [01:00] thanks [01:00] i just use the standard topleft [01:00] yeah. i like that too [01:00] can i see your conkyrc :) [01:01] looks like part of the bg [01:01] yeh [01:01] its not going. pastebin it [01:01] check out this thread for conky configs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865 [01:01] alright. ill put it up on pastebin [01:01] thx dude [01:02] i love blue [01:02] http://pastebin.com/f2b71412f [01:02] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] this config should be setup to be able to work with xcompmgr if you want to add dropshadows to your *box WM [01:04] i forgot who had this wallpaper i use [01:04] DeathValley1.jpg [01:04] here is one of mine with xcompmgr: http://www.unixporn.com/screenshots/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 [01:05] thats the desktop [01:05] have you tried pcmanfm? [01:06] heretic| [01:06] i think he had death valley for his bg [01:06] its a lot like thunar, just i like it more. [01:06] Cann0n, yeah. its ok. i prefer thunar. [01:06] dont know why [01:07] Shrp_, thx. i give him credit for that wallpaper [01:08] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.152) joined ##slackware. [01:09] i fell in love with it [01:10] tlkg_ (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:12] supergear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [01:13] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. 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[01:17] thumbs: on one of my pcs [01:17] i'm going out to deathvalley in 2 weeks [01:17] i'll take that same picture [01:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [01:18] okibisan (n=okibisan@68-184-167-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:19] i want to hike the antartica [01:19] ron1n (i=18ee4548@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5eb54255739a361b) joined ##slackware. [01:19] you can buy spots on research vessels sometimes [01:19] hey guys [01:19] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.227) joined ##slackware. [01:20] tlkg (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:20] I'm looking to take an old machine and turn it into a little NAS box, whats the smallest I can get slackware? [01:20] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:20] RAM wise? [01:21] like, minimal bare bones, command line, enough for headless ssh access [01:21] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn218.78-99-33.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [01:21] 64 MB is nice and small. [01:21] well, I'm installing this on a p2 250mghz 64mb of ram [01:21] that's plenty [01:22] hell, i,d install everything but games and kde [01:22] ron1n: you can leave out x,kde,kdei,xap and e, that should still work fine [01:22] or that [01:22] alrighty =] thanks guys [01:22] nullboy: thanks, that was just the answer I was looking for =] [01:23] ron1n: i'm not sure about some of the mozilla libs though [01:23] ron1n: I ran slackware on a p133 and 32MB of ram for the longest time [01:23] libs I'm not too worried about. They just take up hard disk space unless I use 'em and then they get loaded into ram. [01:23] mozilla libs sound like they will just collect dust =P [01:24] yeah i was just thinking about pidgin's finch but i checked the build and it doesn't use nss --enable-nss=no [01:24] i think that was for seamonkey [01:25] I don't think I will be using finch anyway =P [01:25] \o/ [01:25] I'm actually quite partial to naim. [01:25] if I would be doing any IM'ing on this box [01:25] doubtful though [01:27] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-225.dial.telus.net) left irc: "*cue ff1 victory theme*" [01:27] yep, just remember that xap isn't installed if you ever see lib issues [01:28] alrighty =] [01:28] argh... its late [01:29] or early, depends on how you look at it here in EST [01:33] is it me or is instructables.com over ran by those fucking K'nex projects..... [01:35] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [01:36] ron1n (i=18ee4548@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5eb54255739a361b) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [01:37] finally getting the hang of vim [01:38] congrats [01:38] vim is considered a cli editor right ? [01:38] Action: Cann0n awards lw0x15 the Slack Scout badge of Vim... but takes it away shortly after [01:38] lol [01:39] yeah its a CLI editor [01:41] word of advice, dont set a keyboard shortcut in your wm that closes windows when you hit Escape [01:41] i used that for nears until i picked up vim finally [01:41] s/nears/years [01:42] lw0x15: for a graphical version .. see gvim ;) [01:42] i was like man, my xterm closed before i could save... [01:45] m0nik3r5 (i=sluttySu@gateway/tor/x-1b55a77ca87cd83b) joined ##slackware. [01:47] BP{k}: yeah i tried it [01:47] but idk i like vim more [01:51] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-65-70.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:53] im sry, vim as opposed to what now? [01:54] gvim [01:54] ah yes [01:55] ok , i was just wondering because I have been playingwith different text editor lately [01:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [01:57] vim is the best.... or if u want a brain dead nice simple GUI editor, i suggest leafpad [01:58] vim ? I really like emacs . school me , what do you like about Vim? Cann0n [01:58] it's easy. emacs rubs me the wrong way [01:58] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.191.215) joined ##slackware. [01:59] man [01:59] ##windows are a bunch of dickswaps. [01:59] i know , im not trying to be a sarcastic dick head im wondering what exactly you like [01:59] Nick change: Gargantua_ -> Gargantua [01:59] <3vim [01:59] so is #ubuntu [02:00] Gargantua, every channel but this one sucks IMO [02:00] agreed [02:00] well [02:00] emacs is powerful but not what i need really. I just want a text editor, not a text-based mini operating system [02:00] lol [02:00] I like #winapi and ##chemistry [02:00] leafpad [02:00] #math and #physics si cool too [02:00] leafpad is nice, gtk2edit is nice as well [02:00] haha , that is hiptobecubic it has many a feature not used [02:00] and I like gedit and kwrite (I think that's what it's called, anyways, forgot) [02:01] sry, *that is right , i meant [02:02] don't forget tea, another fairly nice editor [02:02] On windows I like editplus3 [02:03] I like textpad for windows [02:03] but only for the plugin syntax for nwscript really :) [02:03] I don't really dislike any text editor, to be honest [02:03] just letters on a screen [02:03] yup [02:03] some do seem much easier on the eyes and hands though [02:04] cat straight up, vim and emac is for noobs [02:04] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "cya" [02:04] hrmm, there's nothing noobish about vim or emacs , pico maybe [02:05] i like not using a mouse and being fast at what it needs to do .even ifi have to learn alot of diff keys combos [02:05] i like flexing the head muscle [02:06] hey, then emacs it is :) [02:06] for the win [02:06] Iyobe (n=iyobe@96.231.216.45) joined ##slackware. [02:06] really cat? [02:07] http://net.doit.wisc.edu/~plonka/policeII/vi-emacs-final.png [02:07] hello [02:07] i use cat ,but didnt know that i will edit [02:07] ah , windows? [02:07] k [02:07] thats pretty funny [02:07] moin [02:07] justa wya cian loyba [02:07] does anyone have any time to assist me pls ? [02:07] ±²³´µ³µµ [02:07] no [02:08] Iyobe, ask \your question. [02:08] Iyobe: me kid [02:08] ok, i've a boot problem that says vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,65) [02:08] ohhsoocutee (n=Amanda@pool-173-51-138-165.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:09] ohhsoocutee (n=Amanda@pool-173-51-138-165.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [02:09] what i did was i changed the physical conection of some hdds [02:09] and now i can't boot up [02:09] guess , im a noob till a learn cat? [02:10] i've tried changing the boot option on lilo.conf [02:10] so it can boot from then new partion which is /dev/hda1 [02:10] and changeding the fstab option too [02:11] no change. i'm ending up at the same err [02:11] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-152-93.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:11] ah , the cat is very strong indeed [02:12] m0nik3r5, it's ok... i cant talk cat... Cheddar-Bob looks at me like im stupid when i try talking to him [02:12] meow [02:12] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.161) joined ##slackware. [02:12] so any ideas to what i should change beside fstab and lilo ? [02:12] did you rerun lilo? [02:13] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [02:13] yes i did /sbin/lilo [02:14] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] do i have any other options left ? [02:16] it seems like the room went quite after i came in [02:17] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [02:18] it is 2:18 AM Eastern Time [02:18] US Eastern [02:18] Correct [02:18] im in us eastern time as well [02:19] I'm 12 hours ahead of US E [02:20] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-65-70.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:21] pip: youre ahead of the times . where are you ? [02:22] China [02:22] ah ,how is China pip? [02:23] Good [02:23] And yours ? [02:23] are you a transplant or live there your whole life? [02:23] Native, pure [02:24] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:24] very well [02:24] :D [02:24] ah , every well . I hope to visit one day [02:25] Welcome any time [02:27] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:28] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.97) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Cann0n_ (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Iyobe: what's up? [02:33] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:34] inorder for /sbin/lilo to work i've to be in the system [02:34] so i don't think i am doing it properly [02:35] how can i reload lilo again [02:35] just boot the installer, don't format anything and rerun the lilo scripts [02:36] i was just reading that on some slackware forums [02:36] so it should work then [02:36] im going to try it [02:37] yeah just rerun setup and select your target partition and then skip down to the lilo options [02:39] k [02:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [02:44] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "BitchX: ..(cyp): gone" [02:45] removepkg gaza-1239 [02:47] gaza? 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[04:31] hahahahahhhhh [04:33] m0nik3r5, are you a monica? [04:34] dios2: what like a tranny , no. [04:34] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:35] sry, been drinking .what do you mean? [04:35] i am asking about the meaning of your nick [04:36] moniker is a nickname [04:37] ok [04:37] dorayakikun (i=1000@114.58.78.112) joined ##slackware. [04:37] moniker is a word that basicly means "nickname" [04:39] thats what I meant dios2 [04:39] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-26-138.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:39] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:40] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn218.78-99-33.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [04:41] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:43] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:43] ok I see [04:44] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:45] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:46] hi [04:46] hello [04:48] hi [04:48] moin [04:49] hiya [04:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: "leaving" [05:03] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:05] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] dorayakikun (i=1000@114.58.78.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:10] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [05:10] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [05:16] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:17] greetings :)) [05:19] hhhi [05:19] hey guys,,, what is the terminology for making the boot colorful? [05:20] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:20] most of the live cds i have, have colorful boot.... :( i wanna make the same for slackware [05:20] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-195462.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:20] captainchris (n=captainc@ANice-157-1-50-165.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:20] idunno [05:21] The-Croupier, bootsplash? [05:22] aperturefever (n=shevek@athedsl-195462.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] is that what its called? [05:22] i found a manual... saying smething about colorising in rc.d [05:22] but not very sure... [05:23] thats why i asked..;) [05:23] Hmm. You mean you'd like the output from the boot scripts will have colored text? [05:24] yes that one [05:24] The-Croupier: GREEN=$(tput setaf 2); INDENT=$(tput hpa 50); NORMAL=$(tput sgr0); BRIGHT=$(tput bold); echo "${INDENT}${BRIGHT}${GREEN}[ DONE ]${NORMAL}" [05:25] i use that in alot of my scripts [05:25] i actually have a file that contains all the colors that I source in my script [05:25] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-72-47-34-211.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [05:26] SiegeX: could you help with that? [05:26] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-143-115.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [05:26] dont give me just commands, though or the files.... do you have 5mins to probably show me how to link the color files to the scripts? [05:27] ill try making new files... or modify it a little bit more laters [05:27] The-Croupier: put this in a file called colors.sh --> http://rafb.net/p/Yi5Jx184.html [05:27] then in your scripts you source that file with 'source /path/to/colors.sh' [05:27] colours? whatever happened to keeping it simple? :) [05:28] then when you want to colorize something, your just put the color variables before the words you want that color [05:28] and at the very end you end it with ${NORMAL} so that the rest of your text is not colorized [05:29] you can also underline, bold, blink, reverse stuff with the same principle [05:29] if you have a 256-color capable term, then well there are ton more colors than just those 8 =) [05:31] SiegeX: that sounds awsome... thanks alot bro... [05:31] ill give it a try staight away [05:31] thank you [05:31] for ((i=0;i<256;i++)); do tput setaf $i; echo -n "foo"; done; tput sgr0 [05:31] if that gives you a ton of pretty looking foo's, then you have 256 color [05:32] if it doesnt, try typing this --> TERM=xterm-256color [05:32] then do the for loop again [05:33] SiegeX: that loop gives me lots of colorful foos [05:33] but after a bit i get only green ones ;) [05:33] that means i do have some colors in it ;) [05:33] The-Croupier, if I'm not mistaken, colorizing the boot process will involve manually editing each of the executable scripts in /etc/rc.d/ by hand, where you could use the colorizing technique given by SiegeX [05:34] yep, pretty much [05:34] yes thats what i understood too ;) [05:34] Sweet, just making sure :-) [05:34] ok... gotta go for a bit... thank you.. ill get back to it in 10minutes [05:34] thanks again bro [05:34] np [05:35] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-143-115.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[06:30] How do I add couple of additional DNS server names into /etc/resolv.conf during bootup time? [06:30] I have edited rc.inet1.conf to keep the current resolv.conf. But the dhcp client is over writting the /etc/resolv.conf [06:31] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Anyone uses webcore font ? [06:36] tribeca (n=naitso@host38-22-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:37] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.47.40) joined ##slackware. [06:37] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] tribeca_ (n=naitso@host82-112-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:37] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-22.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:37] anyone using this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/games/advancemame/ ? [06:37] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.47.40) left irc: Client Quit [06:38] what else do i need to run it, apart from the slackbuild ?? [06:38] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.47.40) joined ##slackware. [06:38] if i created ppp chat script, how can i run it? [06:38] mame EMU? [06:38] b|urry (n=B|urry@193.110-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:39] vdv: "pppd call $scriptname" [06:39] m0nik3r5: yeah [06:40] SiegeX: to make the boot colorful... do i have to edit everything in rc.d? [06:40] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.177.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] how can one source a file? just 'source /path/to/file.sh' [06:40] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.177.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:41] No , but i may . Trying to install zsnes right now to play these japanesse drifting games [06:42] The-Croupier, i believe ". /path/to/file.conf" [06:42] ..hm [06:42] actually, how can remotelly temporarly disable shutdown by the local non-root user? [06:43] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "bbiab" [06:43] sort-of if root logged-in -> don't shutdown/aks root [06:43] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [06:44] tank-man: hmm i see... if wanted to source that file for a start up script... have to edit everything in rc.d? [06:44] or just rc.4 or rc.3 or all of them? [06:47] why not put it in rc.local ? [06:48] tank-man: cos i dont know where is it needed [06:48] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:48] tank-man: if only rc.local needs to be edited then im fine i suppose [06:49] lets check that [06:49] Action: The-Croupier was going to check all the scripts in rc.d [06:51] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [06:54] anyone uses freefont ? how do you like it ? [06:55] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [06:59] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:08] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-82-20.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:10] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) joined ##slackware. [07:11] b|urry (n=B|urry@193.110-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:15] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.30.215) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Linux developers have announced the release of a reverse-engineered open source firmware for Broadcom 4306 and 4318 wireless hardware [07:18] good news for Broadcom people [07:19] yup, they been bitching about crappy firmware from broadcom for a long time [07:19] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "good luck" [07:19] like me, for example :P [07:19] https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2009-January/008466.html [07:20] that page includes a link to the download [07:23] i run hcitool scan, and it gives me the list of devices [07:23] then i want to hcitool cc to device, but nothing occurs [07:24] no messages are given [07:24] and also running hcitool auth says that there are no connections [07:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) left irc: "Leaving" [07:30] never even heard of hcitool [07:30] hm.. [07:30] how about running windows games on linux? [07:31] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:31] sherique (n=sherique@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] i heard something like now you can run nearly any game .. [07:31] i use a playstation2 for games [07:31] Pig_Pen: its a bluetooth thing [07:31] maybe with wine [07:31] ah, ok thanks XGizzmo [07:32] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [07:33] well.. my brother is asking for some action game .. [07:34] like GTA or somethng .. [07:34] I edited my rc.4 and rebooted and now get this error INIT: Id "x1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 min. I cant enter in any commands either. Any hellp would be appricated [07:35] I made a backup of the file before I just cant get to it. I tried ctrl+alt+backspace nothing, but i am able to reboot [07:35] boot from liveCD, mount the disk, copy the original file back [07:36] ah good idea thx [07:36] hehe been there [07:36] brb :P [07:36] sherique (n=sherique@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "none" [07:38] Do molecular biologists wear designer genes? [07:39] ...lol [07:40] blargh! wth qt qmake not found... EAT ME i can fnd it why cant u [07:42] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.191.215) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "btoa" [07:43] where is qmake? /usr/lib/qt/bin ? ln -s /usr/lib/qt/bin/qmake /usr/bin/qmake [07:44] ok well here's what i think this install is bitching about [07:44] that link should be made by the qt package [07:44] it wants afaik qt qmake from qt4 and i have that... but 3 is what it is finding? [07:45] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-149-43.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [07:45] tntslack (n=will@adsl53-116.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:45] how did you install qt4? [07:45] slackbuild package [07:45] ah, maybe use --with-qt-dir=/ ? [07:45] i'll try [07:46] well in the doinst.sh for 4.4.3 it has the following lines: [07:47] ( cd usr/bin ; rm -rf qmake-qt4 ) [07:47] ( cd usr/bin ; ln -sf /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/bin/qmake qmake-qt4 ) [07:47] i have no /usr/lib/qt-4 anything....wth [07:48] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] c0nflict: ls -l /var/log/packages/qt4* [07:48] where did qt4 install to? [07:48] opt? [07:48] runs for coffee, brb [07:49] no such file or directory? /wrist [07:49] c0nflict: cat /etc/*ion* [07:50] you wnat to know what, version? [07:50] 12.1 [07:50] did you actually install the resulting package after building qr4? [07:51] s/qr/qt/ [07:51] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.93) joined ##slackware. [07:51] omg [07:51] im not going to answer that question...god i need sleep [07:51] lol thanks [07:52] okay. [07:52] sigh [07:54] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-24-195-253-196.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] gnubien (n=e@121.252.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:58] just out of sheer morbid curiosity, what does this show?: ls -ld /usr/lib/qt* [07:59] it shows what it should now that i actually installed the package [07:59] hehe. [07:59] i got so sidetracked waiting for qt to build...i neglected to finish with it when it was done lol [08:00] see that's where you should have had coffee ;) [08:00] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [08:00] lol oh i so agree, pot crapped out on me last night...going to store ASAP for a new one [08:04] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [08:07] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:08] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-82-20.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [08:09] subgeniusd (n=chatzill@user-1121vih.dsl.mindspring.com) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.9/2008052900]" [08:10] c0nflict: that's why you keep a jar or two of instant around the house. ;) (which accidently also is good for making icecoffee[1]) [1] - see /usr/doc/Linux-HOWTOs/Coffee. ;) [08:10] kama (n=kama@host238-52-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:11] kama (n=kama@host238-52-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:12] gah instantcoffee :( [08:13] fred: instantcoffee > nocoffeeatall. [08:14] coke > instantcoffee [08:14] also, 'morning BP{k} :) [08:15] nobios (n=everson@189.81.233.161) joined ##slackware. [08:15] fred: morning. :) [08:15] fred: I prefer to drink, not snort ;) [08:15] nobios (n=everson@189.81.233.161) left ##slackware. [08:16] s/coke/coca-cola/ [08:16] http://xkcd.com/528/ [08:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:17] guys any idea about a FSC Laptop Amilo Sa 3650 with graphic booster, will work on Slackware? [08:19] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:19] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/09jan/xuf012311.gif [08:21] lol@xkcd [08:22] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-24-195-253-196.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] MarteX (n=ibpywi@189.74.86.91) joined ##slackware. [08:29] MarteX (n=ibpywi@189.74.86.91) left irc: Client Quit [08:30] ah just switched back over here...instant coffee eh... pot, stove...coffee grind...pour through filter...was not without coffee in the wee hours of the morning just cause the pot broke... [08:31] survival [08:31] must include coffee [08:33] id prefer staying awake chewing coca leaves [08:34] sadly theyre not legal in most places of the world :/ [08:38] reversed engineered broadcomm firmware [08:38] :D [08:40] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-257187.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:41] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:42] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [08:43] I have a direcotry of files I have saved at different time on different media. Now I want sync them without loosing any data. What is the best way to do this? Has anyone done this before? [08:45] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [08:46] kleanchap, rsync [08:46] is the best way [08:47] martian67: Thnx. To tell the truth, I have never used rsync. [08:47] just read the manpage/google around [08:47] it is a very powerful tool [08:47] The different directories are on the same file system. [08:48] I will check it out. [08:48] valvola (n=val@host232-255-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "valvo is shutting down..." [08:49] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:54] define 'sync them together'. think of rsync as a one-way copy tool [08:59] ananke: kleanchap : yes, rsync is one way copy ... if you need 2 way copy you can use unison or try to run rsync in both ways (but be carefull with the --delete flag) [09:01] higuita: ananke: Thnx. I am reading up on this. [09:01] SpacePlod (n=spaceplo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. 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[09:09] Old_Fogie, wtf agrees -_- [09:15] good morning [09:16] Action: dtanner sips cup o joe [09:17] Old_Fogie: I just had a t-bone and eggs over easy for breakfast.... yummy [09:17] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [09:18] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.93) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:18] dtanner, very very nice [09:19] indeed [09:19] dtanner, I'm working the main breakfast staples first, a cup of coffee and a few cigs, then we move to the hard stuff like food [09:19] Old_Fogie: I had a rocky patel box pressed maduro edge with my coffee before breakfast [09:19] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:20] now I ma having coffee and a "Cusano double conneticut - filler=18 year aged" [09:20] since i quit cigs I smoke a lot of cigars and pipe [09:21] I should do the same to be honest with ya [09:21] ah slackware-d1-12.2 burnt [09:21] Action: dtanner does as blank=all for d2 [09:21] i really should buy some blank dvds [09:22] dtanner, you ever tried using alienBOB's mirror-slack current script, it works quite well. rsyncs down to the pc, makes cd's or dvd or both. and if you only burn cd one, you have the install from hard drive option in the slack installer. or samba, nfs, etc. I find it a total time saver that way [09:22] is c++ better than C ? [09:22] Action: fred wonders why when confronted with two versions of a protocol, they choose to implement the more complex, less useful, and lower-numbered version. [09:22] I usually keep a mirror but i haven't on this particular box , so I just grabbed the isos [09:22] dtanner, and it keeps a copy of the whole tree, etc. then just freeze it [09:23] i rsync it "usually" just not this time [09:23] ah I see. [09:23] I will once i get 12.2 up and rollin' [09:24] lw0x15: better? [09:24] lw0x15: not the place to ask that, and it depends on your definition of "better", it's too subjective to be answered on IRC. Or are you trolling for language fanatics? Who knows. [09:24] AlexElliott: =) [09:26] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [09:26] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:26] nah i was just telling my friend i started learning C [09:26] and he was like well why not c++, its better ;| [09:27] puff puff [09:27] lw0x15, one observation I've had is, I noticed that c++ "appears" to use ccache better than 'c' does. Tho there's no way to fully test that,as well I'd have to have an app written in both c and c++ , but stuff like oh, I don't know, amarok..rebuilds out of cache like lightening. [09:27] ccache isn't a reason to go either way on that question :p [09:28] agreed, like I said 'an obersvation' [09:28] lw0x15: do you understand memory management? [09:30] if you do, then learn c++. [09:30] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.105) joined ##slackware. [09:31] not really ;P [09:31] learn C [09:31] i am still young ;D plenty of time to learn [09:34] Old_Fogie: do you like "conneticut shade" wrappers ? [09:35] dtanner, it's been so long since I've had one, can't recall honestly [09:36] I favor maduro, like cameroon maduro. Every now and then I like a good natural conneticut shade though [09:36] Old_Fogie: write this one down "Cusano 18 year with double conneticut shade wrapper" [09:36] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:36] yeah I tend to go mild, such as a maduro [09:36] got it [09:37] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:37] I'm gonna get out our last night dumpage of snow, then try out a new cigar shop (to me ) later on today [09:38] im so pissed at cdrw discs right now ( I forgot to labelone with a shsarpie and erased the wrong DAMN disc ) argh [09:38] dtanner, heh, I've done that [09:38] I am going to make a visit to a local shop today also [09:38] wish it snowed here last night. [09:39] allend (n=david@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:39] yeah we got anothe 8-10 (not including drifts) [09:40] you not tempted to buy a snow mobile? [09:40] He's old.. and senile.. would you really want him driving one of those!? [09:40] hahah, ever see me drive? [09:41] BINGO! [09:41] Action: Camarade_Tux wants a batmobile :) [09:41] allend (n=david@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) left ##slackware. [09:42] Old_Fogie: these kids have no respect. ;) [09:42] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) joined ##slackware. [09:43] _allend (n=allend@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:43] Yeah I just can't wait til' the lake freezes here, then the 'lake effect' snow stops,and weather get's predictable, and forecasts actually mean something. [09:43] in Buffalo Old_Fogie ? [09:44] dtanner, a few miles outside of it [09:44] _allend (n=allend@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [09:44] it is clear here , highs are gonna be in the 60's clear blue skies [09:44] I am going to take the cover off the HOG and go to the smoke shop later when it warms up a bit [09:44] oh man I wish. we're gonna be in the negatives this week at night time. [09:44] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl227-74.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:45] Austin here [09:45] Especially next weekend, Old_Fogie. [09:46] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.105) left irc: "0x0" [09:46] yea I'm not a negative's person, just too darn cold [09:46] allend (n=allend@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:46] we always seem to miss out when it snows, everywhere else in our county gets it. just not us. [09:46] jonsmith1982: where are you ? [09:47] Yorkshire UK [09:47] It's forecasted to be near -16 degrees here next weekend. [09:47] gm152, ugh [09:47] Celsius (2 degrees F) [09:48] ouch [09:48] tr4sh (i=0@201.39.12.73) joined ##slackware. [09:50] welp, time to do a full frontal assault on the day here. see you all later on. dtanner I'll see if they got one of them stogies there, thanks for the tip. [09:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [09:51] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl7-69-22.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] allend (n=allend@124-168-53-29.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] okibisan (n=okibisan@68-184-167-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.21.138) joined ##slackware. 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[10:51] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0E29F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [10:52] Isn't write support for NTFS still experimental / iffy? As for how to find out, I know there is a way, but I don't know it off the top of my head [10:52] "mount" shows all fs types [10:52] it's fine with fuse [10:52] well i used to have write permissions on that external drive. :/ [10:53] I think in slackware 12 , I mounted that using ntfs-3g [10:53] now I'm on a backtrack 2, but it's slackare based [10:53] so, it works with slackware, but not some other shitty distro ? [10:53] slackware even. [10:53] hm lemme try that on a f9 [10:53] wait a sec [10:54] no [10:54] you fail [10:54] ? [10:54] why? [10:54] because you're not on slackware. that means no cookies for you [10:55] Try ##bactrack2 or whatever. [10:55] thrice`, backtrack isn't based on slack? [10:55] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:55] Suse is based on slackware too [10:55] well I don't think there is a chan for bt, that's why i asked here. [10:55] anyway, if you think so.. sorry and thanks. [10:55] How do I list only directories in a directory? I tried 'ls -d' and that is not helping. [10:56] if [ "works in Slackware" -a "not working in Backtrack" ] ; then echo "not a Slackware issue" ; fi [10:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] ok rob0 got it [10:57] yes, the backtrack devs do a pretty crappy "based on" and then don't support it :) [10:57] Action: chopp wonders if it should be called ##slackware_and_every_retarded_distro_that_thinks_its_slackware...NOT [10:57] lol [10:57] belfon: there is #remote-exploit [10:57] I know you do, but I was typing all that before you said you did. :) [10:57] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-80-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [10:58] thanks chopp [10:58] yw [10:58] me_ (n=me_@78.146.198.137) joined ##slackware. [10:59] kleanchap: find . -type d -maxdepth 1 or ls -l | grep ^d [11:00] gm152: thnx! [11:00] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=samuel@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [11:01] belfon (n=belfon@79.107.89.36) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] i got a problem with ethernet on slackware [11:03] seems very slow [11:03] get out and push! [11:03] lool [11:03] That's what I did back in 28.8 modem days. [11:04] i had one of those [11:04] good god [11:04] but mine was 36 [11:04] Uphill both ways, barefoot, in the snow, et c. [11:04] and then 48kbps [11:04] my first was 56k [11:04] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:04] ohhh, young people [11:04] lool [11:04] My phone line couldn't do any better than 30. [11:04] Aldaron used smoke signals [11:04] lool [11:04] My first was 2400. [11:05] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-76-233-37-58.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:05] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:05] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [11:05] how to build kseg? It's a q3 application. I don't see an INSTALL file ... [11:05] LnSlck, I had a 1200 bps modem once. Manual, too, which meant I made the call with a phone, then pushed the data button of the modem. It couldn't make calls itself [11:06] Aldaron, now that is 133t [11:06] LnxSlck: kinda.. Kinda not :D [11:06] lol [11:06] OK, I found it: qmake and then make. Never mind... I'm still sleepy this Sunday... ;) [11:06] dorayakikun (i=1000@114.58.76.5) joined ##slackware. [11:08] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [11:08] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:09] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Dr4kk4r (i=1002@151.82.58.51) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:11] Tenorio (i=0@201.39.12.73) joined ##slackware. [11:14] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:40] Nick change: Akuma3 -> Akuma [11:40] rob0 (i=rob0@sorry.nodns4.us) joined ##slackware. [11:41] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [11:42] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@dhcp-18-190-51-53.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:43] dtanner: thanks [11:44] I need to tell irssi to send these joins/quits/parts to the dump window [11:44] hey irssi ! [11:45] I like rsync. First time using it to sync my files. I guess, I will download a windows version too. [11:45] why isnt the slackbook in just plain txt format? [11:45] I believe there is no rsync for windows except as part of cygwin [11:45] whats wrong with pdf kleanchap? [11:46] its not KISS [11:46] Because it has illustrations dissociative [11:49] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [11:49] tlkg (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] anyone running slack on a eee? [11:50] I gotta print the slackbook but the fonts are not so good [11:50] there are a few yes [11:50] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.2.25) left ##slackware. [11:51] anyone have the suspend/hibernate scripts? [11:51] im not finding them googling [11:51] buy a copy from slackware.com dissociative [11:52] but I dont live in teh US [11:52] and so [11:53] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:54] tlkg: what scripts? I've been suspending by doing "pm-suspend" myself. And resetting dhcpcd after power-on ;) [11:55] sounds like a pain in the ass [11:55] hehe [11:55] im thinking of the event and action acpi scripts [11:56] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) joined ##slackware. [11:56] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [11:56] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn218.78-99-33.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:56] tlkg: well, I hope somebody else knows. Too bad I can't seem to suspend/hibernate straight from kde menus [11:57] tlkg: I have a copy here of what I think you mean: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/acpi.tar.gz [11:58] alienBOB, thats for the eee? [11:58] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl227-74.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [11:58] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [11:58] tlkg: not particlularly no. [11:58] ahh.. ill try it. that is what im looking for though. [11:58] thanks [11:59] Phil-san_ (n=philipp@p54BFDD5D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host194-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:59] me__ (n=me_@89.242.120.44) joined ##slackware. [12:01] well, optimally there wouldn't ever be hardware-specific scripts ;) [12:01] yeah thats true [12:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [12:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host194-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-86-54.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:06] me_ (n=me_@78.146.198.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:07] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:08] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:08] hey [12:09] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [12:10] whats the record boot time for slack? [12:10] no idea [12:10] I don't think anyone really cares [12:10] the world record? [12:10] To me.. boot times mean nothing.. if the system isn't stable/usable.. then booting "fast" does nothing for me [12:11] well, i care... [12:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-26-138.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:12] i went from 2 minutes 20 seconds boot time to about 40 seconds [12:12] Nick change: Camarade_Tux_ -> Camarade_Tux [12:12] Cann0n, howd you do it? [12:12] 2+ minutes is really slow [12:12] yeah i know [12:12] hence why i care lol [12:13] i played with a lot rc.M [12:13] RJ2k (n=rj@c-76-18-30-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) left irc: "Bye Bye" [12:14] i turned off ldconfig, fc-cache, and icon-cache on boot [12:15] added compact in lilo, and set DHCP_TIMEOUT=1 [12:15] Dominian, not to mention all the bragging about uptime...startup time really stops mattering. [12:15] turned off the services i dont use [12:15] ccfreak2k: yep [12:16] Phil-san (n=philipp@p54BFD1EC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] either way, cutting the boot time matters to me. 2+ minutes sucks [12:17] is this a laptoo? [12:17] yeah [12:17] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.141.109) joined ##slackware. [12:17] i timed mine the other day, i think i got 40 sec with fresh install of slackware 12.2 [12:18] maybe it was 1min 40sec or 40sec [12:18] lol [12:18] suspend-to-disk cuts it down quite a bit :) [12:19] compact option in lilo cut out about 30 seconds of that Checking Bios............... [12:19] i get about 4 lines of dots before it boots [12:20] mine takes about 5 minutes [12:20] lol [12:20] old machine. only just managed to cram in 512Mb ram [12:21] this one has 256 but its a 2.8ghz gotta love compaq [12:24] mmhmm [12:24] you'd think, that probably saved them a few million [12:26] brb. gotta time it [12:27] enjoy [12:27] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:27] josemanuel (n=josemanu@99.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:28] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [12:29] yay [12:30] 2 minutes from quit to join [12:30] unacceptable [12:31] entirely [12:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] that quit to join lol [12:31] if this were the navy i would have you shot [12:31] har har [12:31] how long for boot? [12:31] 47 seconds from os select to login [12:32] nice [12:32] stand back while i destroy you [12:32] im pleased [12:32] back in 10 :p [12:32] lol [12:32] minutes [12:32] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.234.13) joined ##slackware. [12:32] me__ (n=me_@89.242.120.44) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:33] c0nflict (i=500@134-102.94-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] two minutes ? :o [12:33] Don't shoot ... do something uniquely maritime! Keel-haul! [12:34] mwendi (n=ledre@120.161.234.13) left irc: Client Quit [12:35] me_ (n=me_@89.242.120.44) joined ##slackware. [12:36] 2 minutes3 minutes lol\ [12:36] 3* [12:36] heh [12:36] lilo to login prompt = 56 secs [12:36] im suprised [12:36] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.209) joined ##slackware. [12:36] nice.. . out of box? [12:36] pretty much [12:37] well, i gotta go check the traps [12:37] be back later [12:37] grub to login prompt = 56secs, s/5// ;p [12:38] lol [12:38] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] snap [12:43] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.105) joined ##slackware. [12:43] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137100.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [12:43] not rebooting therefor not giving much about how long it takes to boot: ... priceless ;) [12:44] :) [12:44] sahko0 (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-29.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:44] sahko0 (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-29.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-29.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] my nokia n800 boots linux in 20s [12:45] i win [12:45] I don't care how long my machine takes to boot - I almost never reboot it. [12:46] same here usualy [12:46] on portable devices, fast booting is nice [12:46] I never turn my phone off either, just the ringer. [12:47] FriedBob: whats your current uptime? [12:47] going now [12:47] been emotional [12:47] me_ (n=me_@89.242.120.44) left irc: "me_em" [12:47] vinnie_: up 171 days, 17:31 [12:47] vinnie_: 34 days, 20 hours. I had some hardware issues was trying to work out a while back. [12:47] cool [12:48] My personal best is like 430 some odd days [12:48] 12:47:58 up 15:15, 3 users, load average: 0.45, 0.37, 0.28 [12:48] 430 is even! 431 is odd. [12:48] admittedly the 171 is my VPS. My main workstation: up 40 days, 21:44 [12:49] i had to reboot yesterday [12:49] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@dsl001-191-130.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] im not sure where 3 users come from though [12:50] i only have root, and vinnie [12:50] type "who" at the commandline [12:50] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-149-43.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:50] 18:50:11 up 126 days, 59 min, [12:50] vinnie tty1 2009-01-10 21:32 [12:50] vinnie pts/0 2009-01-10 21:33 (:0) [12:50] vinnie pts/1 2009-01-11 12:47 (:0.0) [12:51] its you! heh [12:51] lol [12:52] dios2 (i=test@88.243.103.99) joined ##slackware. [12:52] im still n00bish, and been meaning to ask... do i need to patch my kernel? I read that slackware comes with unpatched kernel. [12:52] Me, my self and I, obviously. [12:53] vinnie_: Depends. [12:53] everything seems ok [12:53] Then likely not. [12:53] I've used Slackware since version 8, never patched a kernel. [12:54] since ive tried slackware, Every other distro is so bloated [12:54] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:54] Action: BP{k} once or twice patched a kernel as it was easier to do then to download the whole kernel source of dialup. [12:55] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [12:55] I only patched a kernel when there was a security fix available, version 12.0 or 12.1. [12:55] upgraded [12:55] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-146-77.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:56] dios2 (i=test@88.243.103.99) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] ive tried several distros, in hopes to find easy ones, and was always scared of slackware, but much to my surprise, slackware has been the simplest [12:57] don't tell anyone [12:57] yeah... exactly. lol [12:57] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [12:57] steerpik1 (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [12:57] hello channel [12:57] hi [12:58] im almost positive, that im the only one with a slackware logo on myspace profile... lol [12:58] and the quote: "my other computer is your windows box" [12:58] heh [12:59] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Dead socket [12:59] How to upgrade installed packages ? [12:59] from remote server ? [13:00] gotta go eat... cyall later [13:00] bye [13:01] v4nelle (n=van@adsl35-47.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:02] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:03] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] pip: slackpkg(8) [13:14] Got it, thanks, but I got nothing to be upgraded with option of upgrade-all [13:16] pip, I take you selected a mirror, ran slackpkg update GPG && slackpkg update .. before running upgrade-all? [13:17] BP{k}: i havent tried slackpkg yet , but from what ive read its useless if you rsync a tree localy , no? [13:18] you can point it at local trees [13:19] does it give any advantage over installpkg in that occasion? [13:19] Yeah, I did have that much disk depot [13:20] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.105) left irc: "0x0" [13:23] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Archgrue (n=archgrue@unaffiliated/archgrue) joined ##slackware. [13:28] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@dhcp-18-190-51-53.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.183.23) joined ##slackware. [13:33] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Phil-san_ (n=philipp@p54BFDD5D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "geht sterben" [13:36] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] not only bloted - it's based on GTK and has incredibly wrong design [13:53] hmm [13:53] there are 3rd party packets avaible for slack [13:53] just stick to KDE if you want something easy [13:53] do you use KDE? [13:53] like dropline [13:53] I'm using Sawfish [13:53] sawfish a wm? [13:53] yes [13:54] cool [13:54] what's wrong with GTK? [13:54] remember gnome-1.4 used sawfish as a window manager (long before metacity came along) [13:54] (and no, there is no official package for sawfish in slackware) [13:54] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.103.99) left irc: [13:54] qneo: file dialog for starters [13:54] qneo: and I'll skip the API [13:54] IMO the best option to add Gnome to Slackware is to use http://gnomeslackbuild.org [13:55] And there is nothing wrong with GTK [13:55] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Qt4 is the first time KDE apps can look as clean as GTK apps [13:55] I don't want to start a flame but sometimes I wish all the copies of GTK source code would get corrupted [13:55] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.103.99) joined ##slackware. [13:56] mina86: isnt sawfish an alternative to metacity? or its standalone too? [13:56] I booted in my slackware... [13:56] sahko: it is standalone [13:56] oh didnt know that [13:57] there is no sawfish in slackbuilds [13:57] will get it on freshmeat [13:57] aint sawfish a bit old? [13:57] I had icewm on [13:57] dios_mio: ./configure && make && make DESTDIR=$PWD-i686-1x install && cd $PWD-i686-1x && makepkg $PWD.tgz && installpkg $PWD.tgz [13:57] ;) [13:58] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:58] sawfish is back, being developed again after a long time of stagnation (probably because of gnome-2.x & metacity) [13:58] slackytude: the newest version is from 23th of december [13:58] mina86: is it ok to simply do a make install the old way? [13:59] dios_mio: you won't have a package then and won't be able to do removepkg [13:59] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:00] .. so i'm trying to get 'ls' to use colors inside screen [14:00] ls --color [14:00] ;) [14:00] I think it's enougth to edit /etc/DIR_COLORS [14:01] its probably enough to do a bash -l [14:01] ie. add TERM screen unless you have it in which case ls --color=auto should give colors [14:01] well, really i'm wondering why the /etc/profile.d/ scripts aren't applied to bash shells inside screen [14:01] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:01] hackedhead, no login shell [14:01] . /etc/profile [14:01] slackytude: ah right. how to change that [14:01] samba is dam fat [14:02] Action: hackedhead goes to read screen's man page [14:02] hackedhead, either launch a login shell by adding a -l like bash -l or have something source your profile in your .bashrc [14:02] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Leaving" [14:03] if [ "$TERM" -a "$TERM" != "dumb" ] ; then . /etc/profile ; fi [14:03] that's my .bashrc [14:05] Personally I prefer maintaining "correct" start scripts ie. keep all exports and things that are preserved on shell invokations in profile and everything that is local to current process in bashrc and source the later from the former [14:06] yeah, i'd like to accomplish this at a systemwide level [14:07] then create /etc/shellrc and source it from /etc/profile [14:09] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.102.6) joined ##slackware. [14:10] i'm a little confused though, afiact bash should run /etc/profile, which should run the /etc/profile.d scripts and i'm not understadning why it doesn't when it's run from within screen.. [14:10] hackedhead: bash runs /etc/profile only as a login shell [14:10] only login shells do,,. what mina86 said [14:10] user6980 (n=user7232@ppp-69-223-72-8.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] h [14:10] hackedhead: because screen doesn't create login shells. [14:10] if you invoke bash in your bash session it won't run profile either [14:10] bah yeah, i keep forgetting the interactive vs login distinction [14:11] Action: BP{k} thinks more people should read bash(1) especially the INVOCATION section. :) [14:11] not inveractive vs login [14:11] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:11] I mean, those are two separate categories [14:11] mina86: right [14:13] personally I put everything in .bashrc. Then I source .bashrc from .bash_profile if a login shell is encountered. [14:13] yeah okay, i'm thinking rob0's soln is simple and pretty much what i want. thanks all. [14:13] That also leaves .profile free for things like ksh. [14:13] BP{k}: I think more people should read "info sed", but we can't have everything :p [14:13] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] fred :) [14:14] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [14:14] tlkg (n=nick@c-68-37-215-123.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:15] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-29.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:20] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@72.46.161.78) joined ##slackware. [14:26] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [14:28] user6980 (n=user7232@ppp-69-223-72-8.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:34] BP{k}: get some rest ;D [14:34] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.103.99) left irc: "leaving" [14:36] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.103.99) joined ##slackware. [14:37] lw0x15: I did! [14:40] when ? [14:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsRt58slQM&feature=related lol! [14:40] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) joined ##slackware. [14:41] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] Pig_Pen: lol [14:44] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) left irc: Client Quit [14:44] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:45] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:45] hmm just googled but i cannot find... how about the slackware 13 release date ? [14:45] ugh looks like opera doesnt know how to print [14:46] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] paul424: when it's ready [14:46] :] [14:46] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:46] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:47] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] any guesses on the slack13 news? [14:48] heck! slackware-12.2 just barely got out the door [14:48] i'll bet in kde 4, kernel 2.6.28, and Grub avaiable in the install [14:48] kde4: yes probably kernel 2.6.28 yes probably (or more recent), grub .. no. [14:49] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGdTz93dMU here is a stupid crazy truck driver [14:49] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [14:50] I dont use flash [14:50] thanks [14:50] lol [14:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [14:50] viva la resistance [14:50] yeah [14:50] viva la republic [14:50] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:51] i use flash because millions of websites use it [14:51] s/c/que/ [14:51] does gtk and qt use a different font rendering configuration? [14:51] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@72.46.161.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] I dont use it because its a waste of bandwidth/resources/time etc [14:51] and there's nothing really productive from it [14:51] alienBOB: ah of course, thanks. Sorry been too long since I've actually used french :) [14:51] some don't have a choice but to use it [14:52] if i'm stuck with a need to view a site that uses flash well damn, i use flash [14:52] qneo_ (n=knao@adsl-dyn61.78-99-47.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:53] nordle (n=nordle@87.113.92.202.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] jescisp2s (i=1000@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:53] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@dsl001-191-130.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:53] just dontç not jump in the bandwagon [14:53] I have a data DVD I'd like to copy, whats the most accurate method...don't need full explanation just some apps, ie dd? or..? [14:53] using flash to view a site that i must view is not bandwagon jumping [14:53] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] nordle: dd'ing it to a file will work fine [14:54] nullboy: How do I then dd it back to another disc? Still use dd? or some sort of ISO app or? [14:55] growisofs should be able to write that bin image back down to different media [14:55] ok, cool, I'll give it a crack, thanks. [14:56] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [14:57] something like: dd if=/dev/dvdrom of=/tmp/dvdrom.iso && growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=/tmp/dvdrom.iso [14:57] nordle: DVDs are often not ISO but UDF or something [14:57] but that doesn't matter really, just a side note [14:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [14:59] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl208-8.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] I think that dd'ing from a dvd will not make a iso exactly... [14:59] thenn you tell him what to do [15:01] It's ok guys, think I've got enough info to google further, thanks :) [15:01] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) joined ##slackware. [15:01] mmmm.. something like readcd -clone [15:02] or use k3b [15:02] to clone the dvd [15:02] You don't need a gui for that [15:03] I thought K3b only did video....this is data. I'm probably wrong though. [15:03] Hi! I have a Slackware 12.2 machine here and I can't seem to make the eth0 work. Maybe it's a hardware issue. dmesg sais ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready. However, a few lines above, it recognises the ethernet card as Realtek 8139. How can I diagnose this? [15:03] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/copy-cd-or-dvd-dd [15:03] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.47.40) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [15:03] and when it says that? [15:04] dissocia1ive was that heading to me? [15:04] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:04] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn218.78-99-33.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:05] yes [15:05] yes, it first recognises the ethernet card and then sais that about ADDRCONF [15:05] I can get the whole message, I just have to note it down, I am on another marchine right now [15:05] Well that is not an error nick4 [15:06] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:06] But you want to see this as well , later on: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready [15:06] let me check [15:07] alienBOB no, dmesg actually ends with that ADDRCONF link is not ready [15:07] Try "ethtool eth0" and check at the end of the output if you see "Link detected: yes" [15:08] ethtool eth0, the last line sais "Link detected: no" [15:08] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Well then, check your cable/switch/other network hardware [15:08] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.186.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] nick4: if the system has two ethernet ports you have the wrong one plugged in [15:09] yes, I will try different PCI ports [15:09] no, only one [15:09] nullboy I mean there is only one ethernet port [15:09] got it [15:09] alienBOB "Link detected: no" could mean that the cable is out? Or perhaps an IRQ conflict? [15:10] Is there any virtualization software package on slackware repo ? [15:10] pip did you even look? [15:10] nick4: usually the problem is hardware related [15:10] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] pip none that I know, but there are slackbuilds for qemu and vbox [15:10] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@dhcp-18-190-51-53.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:10] okey Bob, I'll try changing PCI ports [15:11] err, I mean slots [15:11] PCI ports? [15:11] Ah [15:11] :S [15:11] thanks, I got it [15:11] Nick change: qneo_ -> qneo [15:11] Look at "ifconfig eth0" and check for non-zero error counts there [15:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [15:12] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] just a sec... [15:12] all errors are 0 [15:13] (I'll go change that slot) [15:13] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0DB06.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] firefox/youtube gets crashed because I am playing mp3's with another program, and they both try to use the sounds card.. how to fix? [15:14] I changed the xmms output plugin to alsa.. but no change,.. also the same problem with mpg123 [15:15] dios_mio: do yu have dmix working? [15:15] not sure.. what is that? [15:15] can you hear sound from 2 different programs? [15:15] running at the same time [15:16] no [15:16] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] I take you are not using a sound daemon like arts or Jack or somethin'? [15:17] well, I didnt add anything new to a default slackware 12.2 install.. so I dont know [15:17] probably not [15:17] are you using KDE? [15:17] no.. windowmaker [15:18] ok, so it seems you have alsa w/o dmix and no sound daemon [15:18] mina86, , bytheway,, do you ever get "ALSA underrun" errors? [15:18] hmm [15:18] you have to configure dmix (don't ask me how, I don't know, you have to google it) [15:18] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0DB06.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] ok [15:18] dios_mio: I'm using OSS [15:18] so no ALSA errors ;) [15:18] what is the difference? [15:19] I noticed sound works in Second Life now and OSS has a per application volume control [15:19] hmm [15:19] ok, I can now ping the second machine on a static-IP network. But I can't ping the gateway nor I can "host google.com". I also can't ping the machine itself with it's IP (ping 10.0.0.3, when 10.0.0.3 is the local IP) [15:20] supergear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [15:22] kresho (n=kresho@93-136-69-68.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] mina86: Alsa does DMIX by default for years now [15:24] alienBOB: oh, does it? I remember I had a lot of problems with it and it wasn't long agoe, 2 years maximum [15:24] Why LC_ALL variable isn't set ? [15:24] /agoe/ago/ [15:24] pip: check out /etc/profile.d/lang.sh [15:25] mina86, there is not LC_ALL entry [15:25] Alsa has made a lot of progress in the past two years. [15:25] in there [15:25] pip: does it cause any problems? [15:26] did you set LC_ALL ? [15:26] jkwood: honestly I never liked the "L" part of the name and as said after switching to OSS SL works for me so I'll stick to it [15:26] pip: yes, for Polish locale, if you want an US locale you probably can ignore it and keep it unset [15:27] pip: if you really want just add export LC_ALL=en_US to /etc/profile.d/lang.sh [15:27] or whatever you want [15:27] Okay, I see [15:27] pip: wait, no I have no LC_ALL [15:27] I have LANG and LC_COLLATE [15:28] vdv (i=1000@pop-31-123.azeronline.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:28] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:28] well, I found sometimes my firefox got too hard to open a link when parsing the page, so I guess it's might for the font of locale problem [15:28] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [15:28] (and LC_MESSAGE=en_GB as I prefer English messages in console) [15:28] what does English messages mean ? [15:28] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] If I have LANG=pl_PL get Polish messages from console programs like ls, grep, sed, etc whereas I prefer English so I have LC_MESSAGE=en_GB [15:29] I think GB means Great Britain, right ? [15:29] right [15:29] Yes. [15:29] there's en_GB and en_US. [15:30] I have edited rc.inet1.conf to keep the current resolv.conf. But the dhcp client is over writting the /etc/resolv.conf [15:30] I always use en_US [15:30] How do I add couple of additional DNS server names into /etc/resolv.conf during bootup time? [15:30] kleanchap: you can disable overwriting of resolve.conf [15:30] mina86: How? [15:30] kleanchap, echo something into rc.local file [15:31] erm, about that pinging? [15:31] kleanchap: I think there's an option in rc.inet1.conf like KEEPRESOLVE [15:31] pip: Is rc.local the last bootup script? [15:31] #DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[4]="yes" # If you dont want /etc/resolv.conf overwritten [15:31] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137100.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:31] I think so [15:31] also about LC_MESSAGE, I like to set it to utf8 but the scripts (like xwmconfig) dont render nice [15:31] kleanchap: yes, it's the last one [15:32] mina86: I did enable that flag but resolv.conf is still being overwritten. [15:32] oh... then I dunno [15:32] kleanchap: pass -R to dhcpcd [15:32] -R Prevents dhcpcd from replacing existing /resolv.conf file. [15:32] hi, this my soundcard... HDA VIA VT82xx, chip: VIA VIA VT1708 [15:32] kleanchap: paste bin your rc.inet1.conf [15:32] The KEEPRESOLVE flag was near the wireless nic. [15:32] i get audio from the built-in speaker, but i get no audio from the headphones [15:33] dios_mio: DHCP_KEEPRESOLVE is suppose to do that [15:33] is there anyway to fix this? [15:33] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl208-8.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "brb" [15:33] steerpike: have you chacked alsamixer? [15:33] steerpike, Is your headphone alright ? [15:33] steerpike: it could have separate controls for headpones [15:33] kleanchap: you need to have a KEEPRESOLVE line for each interface you wish to have that apply for... [15:33] dtanner: I will try that. [15:33] pip: yeah, it works fine in windows [15:33] mina86: yeah, but there's no separate setting for headphone jack [15:34] steerpike, where is your windows ? [15:34] on the same computer? [15:34] okay, it's weird [15:34] pip: on the wall O_o [15:34] :P [15:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.138) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:35] steerpike: sorry, I can't help you, nothing comes to my mind [15:35] mina86, what's one the wall ? [15:35] ok :\ [15:35] pip: windows ;) [15:35] Okay [15:36] steerpike, built-in speaker works well, but no sound from the headphone [15:38] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [15:39] kresho (n=kresho@93-136-69-68.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] checked alasmixer ? [15:40] alsamixer* [15:43] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062137100.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] what is the command to have root-run-gui-in-regular-user-X ? about three people spouted off three different ways the other day and I have forgotten and deleted my notes [15:48] ? [15:49] xauth merge /home/user_running_X/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0 [15:49] there it is [15:49] thanks , noting in cheat file [15:49] export DISPLAY=:0 ; export XAUTHORITY=~Xuser/.Xauthority ; command [15:50] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [15:50] xhost +localhost doesn't work anymore [15:50] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:15] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-230-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [16:15] oh yeah joe the plumber is now a reporter in Israel [16:16] netman86: seems like the ones that know your question aren't here right now [16:16] :'( [16:16] I'm trying hard to get a usb>serial adapter working, but it looks like the scripts load for /dev/ttyS(x), where the adapter is connecting at /dev/ttyUSB0 [16:18] it's a laptop (all taken apart and has wires soldered to the mainboard and heatsinks thermally epoxied onto some parts), if it actually has a serial controller I'm not against soldering directly to the pins to use that instead [16:19] netman86: so you have something this going on? http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/something_like_this.jpg [16:20] Something like that, yeah [16:21] netman86: you don't need rc.serial to make a USB adapter work [16:21] Oh? Hum. [16:21] i use a usb to serial adapter with minicom [16:21] Yeah, I've tried connecting to stuff with minicom, I don't think the adapter is working properly [16:21] just plug it in and make sure the driver loaded [16:22] then point minicom to the ttyUSB0 device [16:22] I'm fairly ceartain it's built into the kernel now, instead of a module [16:22] The only problem is, if you need the 12 volts, you won't have them. [16:22] netman86: what does lsusb show you? [16:22] jkwood: not for console [16:22] A bunch of things. Let me boot her back up real quick [16:23] usually these things are just designed for basic serial communication operations [16:23] i use it to flash routers [16:23] anyone else ever encounter a problem with a the built-in speakers working, but no audio coming from headphone jack? [16:23] nullboy: If the hardware requires 12 volts, then it won't work. Plain and simple. ;) [16:23] that's pretty much it. This will be to recieve console commands from a microcontroller I'm building [16:23] jkwood: when does a serial console need 12v? [16:23] ik have yet to see that [16:24] seriial is what, 8 and -8? [16:24] in fact for just a console all you need is gnd tx and rx [16:24] Not a serial console. A programming cable for a Midland Titan radio, on the other hand... [16:25] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:26] anyways, my goal for today is to get this usb>serial adapter to be able to output text to my serial display from this linux box. I can do it on a windows pc by using hyperterminal to open a connection to whatever COM port it happens to show up as and just typing [16:26] Action: jkwood moves on [16:26] I've done it in the past with desktop mainboards in linux with; echo "test" > /dev/ttyS0 ; assuming ttys0 is the proper port [16:27] so I know the display and adapter work [16:27] connect the rx to rx and fire up minicom [16:27] is it a PL2303? [16:27] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.102.6) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] no, it's not. ch341, I think? [16:28] even though it is a usb>serial adapter, Linux will still see it as a usb device because essentially that is what it is (something that plugs in to USB) [16:28] ... [16:28] that's been established [16:28] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:28] yes, it most ceartainly has [16:29] netman86: so it actually does create an entry in /dev as it is right now? [16:29] 1a86:7523 is what lsusb shows up [16:30] yeah, according to dmesg it's /dev/ttyUSB0 [16:30] here we are, the machine is booting now [16:30] stupid video card is fickney [16:31] netman86: are you sure that minicom had the proper settings to communicate to your device? [16:31] I configured it for 9800 baud with no hardware flow control, which are the same settings I used to connect to it with putty in windows [16:32] netman86: i've had some strangeness with minicom and settings with these USB adapters. try to set your settings in minicom, save them as the default settings, exit minicom and then restart minicom [16:33] I just jumpered 2/3 (rx and tx) [16:33] I want to do a loopback test, as you suggested [16:33] yeah [16:33] woah. [16:33] minicom spit out a load of crap and went offline immediately [16:33] garbled ascii? [16:34] could be. /dev/ttyUSB0 is locked now, according to that terminal [16:34] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn61.78-99-47.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:34] what is the whole lsusb line? [16:34] i'm just curious [16:35] theres no string after that 1a86:7523 [16:35] I could do a -v, but it's about a page of data and that pc isn't online to copy/paste [16:35] that's not normal then [16:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-10899.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:36] yeah, minicom practically vomits connecting to this thing [16:36] hahahaa [16:36] minicom reports vomit [16:37] a bunch of single ascii characters on the far right and then a new line [16:37] after each char [16:37] almost looks like noise [16:37] what kernel are you running? [16:38] looks to be 2.6.25.7 [16:38] was probably the latest when I put this together [16:38] or started to, it kinda went back burner [16:38] which slackware version? [16:39] is there a way to check? It's probably 12, but *could* be 10 [16:39] or 11 [16:39] cat /etc/slackware-version [16:39] 12.0.0 [16:39] what are the defaults for ulimit builint in slackware? [16:40] I only see "unlimited" [16:41] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-86-56.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [16:43] yeah, even with 5 grounded minicom vomits for about 3 seconds and then just kinda hangs [16:43] if I kill it from another terminal it yells "killed by 15!" and then "resetting modem" then leaves quietly [16:43] starting it up it inits the modem and then spits the garbage [16:44] sounds like the driver for ch340 blows [16:44] or it's not working properly [16:44] OMG ch340 is down. that is HBO [16:45] interesting, looks like in my rc.local I've got a "modprob usbserial" with the vendor and product matching the lsusb [16:45] but I don't think I compiled as a module [16:45] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:46] it should automagically load drivers for USB adapters though [16:46] i don't have to manually do anything [16:46] it loads something when I plug it in alright [16:46] maybe you have created a conflict though [16:46] let me rem that out and reboot [16:46] yeah [16:47] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-230-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:48] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:48] hey what s the keyboard shorcut terminal in slackware? [16:48] ... [16:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host194-237-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:49] well, theres ctrl alt backspace... that's what *I* use. but mostly because I don't use X [16:49] masterx831: what exactly do you mean? [16:50] okay, rebooted. Plugging in the device I've now got "unable to enumerate usb device on port 4" rather than the thing telling me its bound to ttyusb0 [16:50] so I guess it was using that module [16:50] hmm [16:51] perhaps that's something that should be built in [16:51] nullboy: because gxine locked up on my screen so i have to pkill -9 gxine [16:51] netman86: thank you [16:51] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] wait, what? [16:51] ctrl-alt-f6 will take you to a console [16:51] ctrl-alt-bkspc will kill X [16:52] yeah, don't listen to me [16:52] I'm an ass and know nothing about gui's [16:52] 'cept how to kill 'em [16:52] oh fuck nullboy was right shia t [16:52] i have to redownload [16:52] dammit [16:52] hey stop that [16:52] don't fuck me [16:52] lol [16:53] who has 12.2 here? [16:53] i have current [16:53] so i guess it is 12.2 still [16:53] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-230-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [16:54] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [16:55] looks like I had usb generic serial driver AND winchiphead ch341 single port both built in [16:55] I'm 99% sure this is a ch341 chip, which should I use? [16:55] this is great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuq0DvN8PYw&feature=dir [16:56] netman86: i'd make them both M [16:56] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.222) joined ##slackware. [16:56] generic is * or nothing [16:57] I hate modules, always having to load them and stuff [16:57] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Success [16:58] where can i find the wma9mod.dll library? :\ [16:58] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] steerpike: use a better Linux media player [16:59] i was using your vlc-0.9.8a :\ [16:59] nullboy; would you say * for generic and * for ch341, or */M, or remove one alltogether? I the generic cant be a module, it seems [16:59] alien [17:00] steerpike: mplayer's dll packges might contain wma9mod.dll [17:00] hmm.. kk [17:00] hack... [17:00] steerpike: is the video playing, or is it not? [17:00] http://slackware.org.uk/3rd-party/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/mplayer-codecs/pkg/mplayer-codecs-all_20071007-noarch-1.tgz [17:00] I'll try * for generic and module for the ch341.. [17:00] the video plays fine [17:00] steerpike: so what is the problem [17:00] the audio [17:00] I just saw a g_serial.o fly by on the compiler [17:00] Ah [17:01] wma ;) [17:01] wma is audio indeed :-/ [17:01] josemanuel (n=josemanu@99.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:01] ugh, WAY too many "get your MX1000 working" tutorials [17:01] hehe [17:01] See the link I posted a few lines up to the codecs package [17:01] kk, thanks :) [17:01] Could anybody point me teo a tutorial they recommend? [17:02] redtricycle: what's an MX1000? [17:02] oh, it's on SBo as well [17:02] Wescotte: it's a Logitech mouse [17:02] mx1000 is a moderately nice cordless mouse [17:02] I have one, somewhere [17:02] Everytime I reinstall my OS [17:02] I totally forget how I set up the mouse [17:02] It has like...xev...xmodmap [17:02] redtricycle: ah.. Xorg --configure doesn't produce a working config for the MX1000? [17:02] and it's just ugly [17:03] The mouse works, it's the buttons that done [17:03] for example, scroll wheel doesnt work [17:03] the mx1000 has like 16 buttons [17:03] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] steerpike: yup the mplayer-codecs-all does in fact contain that DLL file [17:05] okay, building in the generic and making the specific a module has the same cant enumerate. let me run that modprobe line real quick [17:05] redtricycle: what driver are you using? [17:05] Wescotte: trying to get evdev to work atm [17:06] Wescotte: thanks :) [17:07] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [17:08] redtricycle: hmm yeah lotta tutorials and they all seem slightly different :) [17:08] nullboy, if you're still here- unless I load that module I don't get the line saying the thing is attatched to ttyUSB0 [17:08] redtricycle: so it functions as a pointer but certain buttons (specfically the wheel) don't work correctly? [17:10] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@dhcp-18-190-51-53.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] Wescotte: I tried this: [17:10] http://slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel#MX1000 [17:10] but...my mouse didnt even move [17:11] redtricycle, http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/ < Check this out for extra mouse buttons [17:13] redtricycle: http://engineeringlife.dk/2007/07/12/logitech-mx1000-and-xorg/ <-- try this one.. Also, if you have like a Ubuntu disc fire that up and see what it does with the xorg.conf. When I'm lost on configuring hardware I fire up a Ubuntu disc and it generally gives me a good starting point [17:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:19] i think i found a solution to my problem, but how do i disable/mute channels in alsa? [17:19] alsamixer [17:19] well, i know how to use alsamixer, but what about channels? [17:20] it says i need to mute channel 2 and 4 [17:21] Okay, how much has udev changed? [17:21] I dont see udevifo command anymore [17:21] redtricycle: i set mine to auto [17:22] how do do I specify the correct device? [17:22] /dev/input/event0, event1, event2? [17:22] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:22] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] previously, i used udevinfo and a ruleset for udev [17:24] redtricycle: sorry, i thought u were still working on mouse [17:24] vinnie_: I am [17:25] vinnie_: I need this udev thing to make a symlink to the mx1000 [17:25] is it a usb mouse? [17:25] vinnie_: Yes, mx1000 [17:25] right now, it's /dev/input/event2 [17:25] then im not sure [17:25] but that could change when I boot [17:26] i only use ps/2 [17:26] redtricycle: edit your rules on /etc/udev/ toinclude the something like KERNEL=="event[0-9]*?, SYSFS{idProduct}==?c50e?, SYMLINK+=?input/mx1000? [17:26] bbeecher1 (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [17:26] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] PiterPunk (n=punk@c906116f.virtua.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] Wescotte: how do I check the SYSFS of the product? [17:27] Wescotte: I dont have udevinfo anymore [17:29] udevadm info [17:29] ah...that changed, okay [17:30] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] atom_fox (n=Administ@124.107.19.117) joined ##slackware. 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[17:45] I dont see a SYSFS using this command: [17:45] udevadm info --path=$(udevadm info --query=path --name /dev/input/event2) --attribute-walk [17:45] event2 is my mouse [17:45] I only see ATTR [17:46] ATTR? [17:46] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:49] supergear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:50] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:50] rk4n3: Are you R Keene of the rsk packages? [17:50] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:51] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:53] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [17:53] m0nik3r5 (i=sluttySu@gateway/tor/x-1b55a77ca87cd83b) left irc: "leaving" [17:55] Okay, okay, I finally have the event device [17:55] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/udev-rule-problem-with-12.2-692974/ [17:55] from this thread [17:55] The-Croupier (i=3e01f2e2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4731716654ebae27) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Now...time to get to my actual problem [17:55] tntslack (n=will@adsl53-116.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:56] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] huge big, unsolvable by me problem.... :( ,,,,,, i think i deleted/replaced all the rc.d/ scripts..... is there a way to get them back? dont think i can mount from livecd either.... for some reason mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/somehdd/ doesnt work :( [17:58] if you cant mount it how are you going to fix anything? [17:59] The-Croupier: so the color didn't work out so good I take it. [17:59] The-Croupier: They're in various packages. [17:59] chopp: hahaha nope [17:59] jkwood: what do you mean? [17:59] XGizzmo_: ill find a way to get around that [18:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.222) left irc: "Bye Bye" [18:00] The-Croupier: Each script in rc.d comes from different packages. I'm really not sure where they all are. [18:00] my problem is if i can actually find the files... or if i can find similar files to make it start or save some late changes i made [18:00] jkwood: damn :( [18:00] sysinit scripts is one of the packages [18:00] jkwood: is there a way to find out... how can i look for it [18:01] it/them [18:01] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: "Slackware GNU/Linux - World domination is a click away!" [18:01] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [18:01] The-Croupier: grep rc.d /var/log/packages/* would be a good start. [18:01] does someone need a usb bluetooth dongle to get slackware up to the latest bluez versions? [18:02] nullboy there you are. U tried the new windows 7 yet? [18:02] nah [18:02] jkwood: i see... [18:02] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:02] i don't worry about the MS beta releases [18:03] nullboy: why are there any other releases? [18:03] :p [18:03] exactly [18:03] s/beta// [18:03] lol [18:03] hey what does the installer say? 4.8GB+ of software? [18:03] jkwood: ill try to save as much as i can after the mount ;) ill see what happens damn... i cannot read some of my students assignments though :( [18:04] TwinReverb: that is probably only the wholes cd... you need the install cd as well :p [18:04] the whole dvd... [18:04] i'm asking if anyone remembers what the installer says now [18:05] Action: ccfreak2k has a virtual machine with Windows 7 in it. [18:05] Sounds right. [18:05] ccfreak2k: and..... hows that going [18:05] the whole enchilada. [18:06] i'm just barely messing with Vista as ti is [18:06] The-Croupier, well, it installed, and VirtualBox tools works (run it in Windows Vista compatibility mode), but performance is hard to gauge due to the fact that it's a virtual machine. [18:06] i swear to God i'm going to have to alias cfdisk to 'cfdisk /dev/null' [18:06] i keep hosing my damn local hard drive [18:06] now i gotta reinstall yet again [18:06] the joys .... [18:06] TwinReverb, good idea. Then you can have an infinite loop. :) [18:06] ccfreak2K how does it run? [18:07] TwinReverb: Nightly image backups. [18:07] FriedBob, i have those [18:07] lotec, err, it bootstraps from BCD and sets up the initial environment... [18:07] well, nightly rsync of /home [18:07] What kind of question is that? [18:07] oh well brb *sigh* [18:07] rsync != image [18:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Client Quit [18:07] chmod -x $(which cfdisk) [18:08] or, don't be a moron [tm] [18:08] i like thrice's answer [18:08] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] guys... i make lots of stupid moves on while messing with this laptop.. how can i make images? with what? and restore of course? [18:09] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] Action: Wescotte wonders how Twin is accidently breaking stuff with cfdisk [18:09] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [18:09] the-Croupier dd [18:09] dd and bzip2 come to mind. [18:09] Although, rsync would be easier to work with, I think. [18:09] i see ;) thanks [18:10] The-Croupier: i use rsync for daily laptop backups and twice a month i image the disk to file [18:10] if i had it in an image i wouldnt worry about the deleted scripts now :( [18:10] The-Croupier: just get a cheap USB stick [18:11] you can have the system rsync everything important over to it [18:11] nullboy: i dont have that many important files.. they are mostly shell scripts i make over the times to make it more automatic, [18:11] The-Croupier: slackpkg reinstall slackware [18:11] and try to clean it up mostly [18:11] nullboy: i have a wd external hdd [18:12] those passport ones.portables.. [18:12] the-Croupier then there is no reason that you should be loosing or deleating stuff and not have a backup [18:12] nullboy: i see... i think ill start doing that after fixing this one... ;) [18:13] lotec: yes there is a reason i lost these ones... cos i didnt back up anything ;) [18:14] no harm done though... nothing that important in there that i would miss... thing is... ANOTHER LESSON LEARNT [18:16] The-Croupier, you can't always be the one teaching [18:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] The-Croupier, sometimes you need to learn... lool [18:16] one time in a lab i dd'd a blank drive to the drive i needed a copy of [18:17] one time... in band camp... [18:17] lloool [18:21] Iyobe (n=iyobe@64.241.37.140) joined ##slackware. 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[18:56] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] Pig_Pen, you're talking abou tkde4? [18:57] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] no, just kde-3-5.10 [18:57] KDE 4 needs those tools back. [18:58] my audio buttons used to work, but they stopped about a week ago, that had me confused - I'll trying checking relevant control settings right now though [18:58] i think kde-4 was released about 2 or 3 years too early, looks pretty but needs lots more work under the hood [18:58] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-70-231-227-127.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:58] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-70-231-227-127.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [18:58] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-189-191.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Pig_Pen, but the opinion on the newer RC's is a lot more positive [18:59] nessundorma (n=mike@host215-56-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] netman86 (n=como@cpe-74-75-64-16.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:59] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [18:59] Any of you guys use vncviewer? [18:59] yes [19:00] i like kde, its just that i am slow to accept complete overhauls like kde-4 until they are mature [19:00] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:00] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:01] Ficthe: it's a simple keyboard layout [19:01] does the panel have autohide? and what about active screen borders so you can switch virtual desktops by just bumping either the left or right screen edge with your mouse/cursor [19:03] I've ctrl+alt+k mapped to switch kxkb layouts in "global shortcuts" in ""kde control module" -- it works, but once I've switched to ru, I can't have the same shortcut combination to switch back. I would have thought it would overlap this.. but it doesn't, would anyone have to happen a solution for this? [19:03] Pig_Pen, heh, iunno, I haven't tried it myself [19:03] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.25.25) joined ##slackware. [19:03] those are two features i really really like [19:03] hey guys, does anyone here has installed and configured wifidog? [19:03] but I hear that KDE4 will be up to KDE3's capability in terms of features and functionalities 100% by February [19:03] cool! [19:04] wifidog? [19:04] yeah, wifidog [19:04] 16:23 -!- Irssi: Error loading module perl/core: /usr/lib/irssi/modules/libperl_core.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [19:04] where's the actual perl core module? [19:04] so I can make a symlink? [19:04] http://dev.wifidog.org/ ? [19:04] signal111 (n=esteban@dialup-4.254.130.69.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] because I have to unload/reload perl from time to time [19:04] because of..buggy scripts [19:07] what really needs development is wpa_supplicant too many cards are not supported [19:08] because i really want to switch from wep to wpa2 & aes [19:08] straterra: For some reason, once in Fullscreen mode, the F8 doesn't work anymore [19:08] It doesn't bring up the menu [19:08] Iyobe (n=iyobe@64.241.37.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:08] Pig_Pen: it is not wpa_supplicant but those drivers that need development [19:09] hmm, ok, i take your word for it :) [19:09] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.25.25) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:11] i have a wmp54G linksys card that uses rt2x00lib, rt61pci, rt2x00pci [19:11] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.183.23) left irc: Connection timed out [19:12] That card should be able to do WPA2 [19:12] But the kernel rt2x00 driver is not all that good as the original rt2500 driver by serialmonkey [19:13] signal11_ (n=esteban@dialup-4.254.130.5.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:13] gm152 (n=glen@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] s/rt2500/rt61/ [19:13] i tried to get wpa_supplicant.conf to do it. maybe i should try serialmonkey's driver instead of the kernel's driver? (keep the firmware?) [19:14] At least in Slackware 12.1 the 2.6.24.5 kernel's rt2x00 driver was bad [19:14] Have not tried slackware 12.2 yet [19:15] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:17] should LVM or RAID be setup first if you were going to setup both? [19:17] raid then lvm iirc [19:18] i guess you just LVM partitions on /dev/md0? [19:18] mdX [19:18] RAID first [19:18] thanks guys [19:20] ah, serialmonkey makes the firmware, so i keep the kernel module and replace the firmware [19:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-10899.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:21] I think the kernel module is old serialmonkey code. [19:22] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.25.25) joined ##slackware. [19:22] signal11 (i=esteban@host197.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] i just built serialmonkey's firmware and the file size is exactly the same as slackware's build of the rt61 firmware, hmm i might be missing something when trying to configure a wpa_supplicant.conf file [19:23] appzer0_ (n=fxchdgh@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [19:23] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:32] coolbeans! serialmonkey's firmware built & a fresh copy of wpa_supplicant build with serialmonkey's header & C files, now to just reconfig the router and fine tune wpa_supplicant.conf and just maybe i can have wpa2 :D [19:32] Ah, I see [19:32] seq 2 -1 1 [19:32] anyone knows if IP Masquerade works over PLIP? [19:32] you need to specify the increment [19:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:33] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:34] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [19:34] w4lk (n=chatzill@cpe-024-031-104-201.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] a750mhzslinky (n=b750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [19:38] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:38] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] GsXs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[20:19] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [20:20] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:24] herbert123456 (n=herbert@adsl-99-148-247-96.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] gigi (n=guilleba@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: [20:29] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [20:29] alienBOB: are you about ? [20:30] thrice`, face it, you're the last one alive [20:30] PiterPunk (n=punk@c906116f.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:30] i'm just an echo in the packets [20:33] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: "Slackware GNU/Linux - World domination is a click away!" [20:33] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:34] xdan779 (n=daniel@s233-75-207.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] is there a video card that can fit into a pci slot? [20:36] oh wrong schannel sorry [20:37] Most of them used to be that way. [20:37] yes , I have 20 or so old ones [20:37] Action: dtanner throws a pci vid card @ KidpunkX [20:37] The last time I bought a video card, I had to check to make sure it was AGP and not PCI, as a matter of fact. [20:38] kool thank you [20:38] lol i ha ve a nvideo 256 turbo [20:38] sell it to dyou for 20 bucks [20:38] PCI express != PCI [20:38] usr13_ (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [20:38] wanta picture [20:38] its agp [20:38] sold ! to the man in the corner [20:39] How can I tell firefox to do something with PDFs other than just open a blank screen and say "Done"? [20:39] haha [20:39] there is PCI, then AGP, then PCI Express, pci and agp are rare today [20:39] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [20:39] look in the application helper thingie settings [20:39] Don't need an agp card. I don't have a computer that could use it. [20:40] At least I don't think so. [20:40] i need for a customer computer [20:40] installed slackwarw 12.1 [20:40] he pulled out the monitor out by its tail of the cord vga [20:40] and fucked up the input on it [20:41] intergrated motherboard i'nm tryi ng to replace it by weldng it or buying a video card for a pci slot [20:41] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] jkwood, what are you using? [20:42] tryign to run slackware on my phone [20:42] about to buy a 2gb mem card [20:42] dumb idea [20:42] KidpunkX: I have two laptops and a 266 MHz pre-AGP-something-or-other. [20:43] i doubt your phone is x86 [20:43] oh [20:43] so is there a slackversion that works with my phon e [20:43] probrably 9.2 [20:43] run on your phone? [20:43] no [20:44] not unless your phone has an x86 cpu [20:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] which i seriously doubt [20:44] ArmedSlack maybe? [20:45] even then..i doubt you'll get it working as a phone [20:45] linux is a bit heavy for a phone, imo [20:46] good evening straterra , how are you ? [20:46] and the main question is... what for [20:46] let me check because some people run linux distro on mobile devices so i'm thinking there has to be one out let me check on www.distrowatch.com [20:46] There's always Google Android. [20:46] comp_ (n=comp_@210.150.186.60) joined ##slackware. [20:46] i just love slackware i love it like its my own child [20:46] :-P [20:46] thats my wallpaper :-D [20:47] you are one strange punk [20:48] chopp, dont you liek slackware? [20:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] darn! back to using wep :( [20:49] i hate wep [20:49] too hard too mess with [20:49] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-231-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:49] better than nothing at all [20:50] jkwood: qtopia tried for years to run in phones... until openmoko, they never manage to use the phone part (make calls and like)... the GSM part was too closed [20:51] Action: jkwood will be buying a Google dev phone [20:51] herbert123456 (n=herbert@adsl-99-148-247-96.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] even openmoko only manage to get a serial port+ar commands to talk with the gsm chip [20:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. 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[21:08] dtanner, only thing half way decent was the girl with the big hoo hoo's at the counter, heh [21:08] dtanner, got me some nice cherry pipe tobacco tho [21:09] black cherry ? [21:09] oh you know it [21:10] I just fired a "rocky patel Batallion sized Nording series " cigar [21:10] dtanner, the wife doesn't 'get on me' if I have cherry flavored [21:10] and have a fresh cup 0 joe [21:10] dtanner, got a fancy wooden box of matches to go with the pipe [21:10] 60 ring size [21:10] coolo [21:11] dtanner, it's actually a scented set of matches, smell better [21:11] Hi! I have a problem when I connect to wire connection ADSL. If I don't do "ifconfig eth0 down" before "pppoe-start", the web broser don't show any page. Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? [21:11] you bought a new pipe also ? [21:11] dtanner, no I'm going to fire up my grandfathers tonight [21:11] dtanner, been a while since I used it. Brings back memories [21:11] nice Old_Fogie [21:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:12] cm21: check /etc/resolv.conf before during and , it may be the nameservers file [21:14] Old_Fogie: check out what rocky patel says about his "Nording" series on rockypatel.com [21:14] wow this is a tasty smoke [21:15] dtanner, you ever wonder what these guys 'pll down' in a year? [21:15] Old_Fogie: I have a Nording pipe [21:15] s/pull (eg make) [21:15] i know, rocky patel pulls down some serious cash [21:15] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [21:15] his products are so consistent and tasty [21:16] dtanner, for sure I'm into them a 'bill or two' a month no doubt [21:16] me too [21:16] thanks dtanner [21:19] cm21: np, pass -R to dhcpcd and it will not everwrite /etc/resolv.conf everytime [21:22] dtanner: Can you be a little more specific? is that I am a beginner in slackware [21:23] a750mhzslinky (n=b750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "leaving" [21:23] b|urry (n=B|urry@193.110-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:23] did you see /etc/resolv.conf changing before and after running your commands? [21:24] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-162-146.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [21:25] dtanner: Do I have to reboot to do so? [21:26] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-231-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [21:26] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:26] gewt (n=roflfail@i.am.mostlynothing.co.cc) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:26] if indeed resolv.conf being overwritten is the problem then in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf add -R to the dhcpcd command that starts dhcpcd to solve the issue [21:27] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 ( not .conf ) sorry [21:27] and since you are new backup the file before you edit it [21:27] gotta run or a little while [21:29] OK thaks [21:29] but where I add -R? [21:29] cm21: To the dhcpcd command [21:30] Tenorio (i=0@201.39.12.73) left irc: "Leaving" [21:31] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@173-17-23-1.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:33] b|urry (n=B|urry@193.110-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:34] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-98-118-68-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:59] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [21:59] puff puff [21:59] dtanner are you there? [21:59] ohh [21:59] barely [22:00] thnaks!!! it work perfectly [22:00] thank you Old_Fogie [22:00] hmmm, audacity wont build *non stock here* but I didnt change my autotools.."/bin/sh /tmp/SBo/audacity-1.3.6/lib-src/portsmf/autotools/missing --run autoconf [22:00] configure.ac:27: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE" [22:00] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [22:00] mrselfpwn: look in /usr/share/themes/Default/xfwm4/keythemerc. The option is "cycle_windows" [22:01] ok [22:03] so replacing alt with the word super should do the trick? [22:03] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] if so i will just replace all [22:03] mrselfpwn: i think it is "Super_L" for the left windows key and "Super_R" for the right windows key [22:03] What's a simple command to see if any patterns match a file? [22:03] for example, I'm doing [22:04] if [ -f /home/media/*.avi ]; then mv *.avi /movies; fi [22:04] But, that'll match multiple files [22:04] and I get an error "too many arguments" [22:04] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:04] use find [22:05] Anybody know any connection manager on KDE to connect to the Internet? [22:06] to add user and password only [22:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:07] cm21: wicd is nice. [22:07] not sure I follow you there on 'connection manager' [22:07] ups!! for wired connection [22:08] kopete [22:08] cm21: try wicd.. [22:08] Action: BP{k} uses rc.inet1.conf [22:08] Old_Fogie: wotchers :) [22:08] hello BP{k} :) [22:08] wotchers to you too :) [22:09] BP{k} is an well-know troll here in #slackware, just ignore him ;) [22:09] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:09] wicd works fine with wired connections too. [22:09] OK I will try wicd [22:09] hba: jealousy is such an ugly thing ;) [22:09] baradude (n=baradude@58.137.93.218) joined ##slackware. [22:10] XGizzmo_: find worked great, thanks [22:10] BP{k}.. ok, tell us your experience in that topic please ;) [22:11] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:12] oh nevermind..didn't realize I had the 12.1 script here that had "sed -i "s|am__api_version='1.10'|am__api_version='1.9'|" lib-src/portsmf/configure" /me say doh! [22:12] what a do do bird [22:13] Old_Fogie: didja getthe wifiup? [22:14] ok, i found it. for the Key used to grab and move windows there is a dropdown box under xfce-settings-manager > window manager > keyboard. [22:14] er... xfce-settings-manager > window manager > accessibility [22:14] anyone had/having problems with device icons appearing on xfce desktop stop working? [22:14] not keyboard [22:14] briareus, yes I did thanks. Took about 6 hours of hacking testing, but rewrite of slack scripts (so far) seem to be just want I wanted. [22:14] dive what do you mean? [22:15] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:15] well like when you plug in usb stick or insert cd/dvd it used to pop up an icon on desktop [22:15] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:15] now it has stopped working but i'm not sure when [22:15] dunno if it has ever worked in 12.2 [22:16] do you see the icons at all? [22:16] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Client Quit [22:16] any of them? [22:16] i only have it set to show device icons [22:16] so no [22:16] I was gonna mention that setting [22:16] You may have inadvertently changed it. [22:16] if i mv .config and start xfce it does show the normal icons but still no devices [22:17] i'll take a peek at mine, 1 sec [22:17] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] so i don't think it's a setting in xfce - i'm beginning to think hal/dbus [22:17] or udev [22:18] shows in dmesg when i insert [22:18] create a new user and see if it works for that user [22:19] do this dive [22:19] before creating a new user [22:19] make sure that the setting is set to "File/launcher icons" [22:20] delete /home/mrselfpwn/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0.rc [22:20] yeah i checked all that [22:20] then log out and back in [22:20] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:20] change the "mrselfpwn" of course :) [22:20] i moved .config so it would start with new settings [22:20] oh i see [22:21] i will try new user - 1 sec [22:21] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:23] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:24] b|urry (n=B|urry@193.110-27-211.dynamic.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:24] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [22:24] XGizzmo_, nope doesn't work for new user either [22:24] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.99.57) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:25] Have you changed your default file manager recently? [22:25] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] i tried updating thunar and installing vol manager [22:25] to see if that would fix it [22:25] had it set to auto-browse [22:25] but nothing [22:25] hm [22:26] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:26] try un-installing thunar? then reinstall? [22:26] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Client Quit [22:26] mrselfpwn, so it works for you? plugging in a usb stick? [22:26] last i checked. let me try right now [22:27] i want to find out if it works for other people on 12.1 before i go trashing it [22:27] i'm 12.2 [22:27] i mean 12.2 [22:27] sorry [22:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [22:28] cm21 (i=0@190-95-31-67.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:28] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [22:28] yes it works perfectly [22:28] must be something to do with udev/hal/dbus then i would guess [22:29] so your internal drives do work? [22:29] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Client Quit [22:29] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-221-141.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] internal drives are fine [22:29] i see [22:29] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.25.25) joined ##slackware. [22:30] hey guys is 802.11g half/full duplex? [22:30] tea4U (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-8-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] so are usb sticks and cd/dvd if i mount them manually [22:30] ah [22:30] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-98-118-68-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:30] yes, then something isn't clicking [22:31] gonna go reinstalling and deleting rules i think [22:31] Nick change: tea4U -> tea4me [22:33] Works fine here on a stock install. 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[23:10] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:11] _ohm (n=nava@nom19760a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejf16.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:14] chasmo (n=chas@69.4.149.188) left irc: "Leaving" [23:20] In case anyone needs to rebuild amarok on 12.2 , it has broken support for libmtp 3 series (in slack - api change). this isn't official patch, so I'm not sending it in to Mr. V but here's what works for me: http://pastebin.com/dcbc6550 [23:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:20] ymmv [23:23] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-86-56.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [23:24] Organism (n=lane@c-69-243-237-4.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [23:25] anyone tried to get partitionable RAID arrays working with mdadm? [23:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] ... [23:27] what are you trying to do? [23:28] usr13_ (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:28] ... [23:28] ... [23:28] ..? [23:28] i've got a couple of mirrored software raid partitions running right this moment and i used mdadm to configure them [23:29] paritionable arrays are different than the standard slackware method in README_RAID [23:29] so what are you trying to do? [23:29] has anyone managed to get paritionable arrays working [23:29] i think that was pretty clear initially [23:29] couldn't you just fdisk the md device? [23:30] i have never tried that myself... [23:30] Organism: and then what do you do when the disk that fails is the systems primary master? [23:30] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] this board is capable of booting off any disk but how do you tell lilo to install across all disks in case the pri. master dies [23:31] can anyone do me a quick favour? [23:31] does that answer your dot dot dot? [23:31] huh? [23:31] i see. [23:31] hardware raid [23:31] no [23:31] this is software raid i am talking about [23:31] mdadm supports partitionable arrays [23:32] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left irc: "Leaving." [23:32] nullboy: can you please tell me if you see the php source when you go to http://avenger.homeunix.org:81/gallery2/ ? [23:32] are you trying to put your boot partition on a software raided partition? [23:32] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [23:32] unless its raid 1....fail [23:32] Organism: yes and yes...that is possible too [23:32] then i'll sit back and learn because i didn't know you could do that. [23:32] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:33] R1 is supported by mdadm and yes you can have a boot partition in R1 [23:33] in fact, that's why i'm using 5 drives instead of 4. [23:33] straterra: the same issues come from R10 too? [23:33] and it can be made into an md device after booting to it? [23:34] afaik, boot has to be raid 1 or no raid [23:34] and you're asking if it's possible to boot from the second disk in the mirror in case the first disk fails? [23:34] Organism: i'm done with you man [23:34] the bootloader has to read the kernel without assembling any raid [23:34] thumbs: all i see is html source [23:34] yes. i am shit for brains. [23:34] thats only possible with raid 1 [23:34] vinnie_: thanks [23:34] just trying to figure out what the hell you're talking about [23:35] np [23:35] Organism: well it's clear that straterra knows what the hell i'm talking about so i don't think the issue is me [23:36] i know what he's talking about [23:36] you want boot as raid 1 [23:36] indeed sir [23:36] the bootloader goes on all of the raid 1 devices [23:36] is there a special way to configure lilo to be persistent across all disks? [23:36] yes [23:36] so if i loose pri. master [23:37] there are configuration lines you put in lilo.conf [23:37] is it the geometry related stuff? [23:37] no [23:37] its just a line telling it you use raid [23:37] ah [23:38] boot=/dev/md0 iirc [23:38] and some others as well [23:39] I have to make those changes on mirror1.slackaelic.com actually.. [23:39] raid-extra-boot=mbr-only (suppresses generation of a boot record on the raid device, and forces compatibility with versions of LILO earlier than version 22.0 by writing boot records to all Master Boot Records (MBRs) of all disks which have partitions in the raid set.) [23:39] is that it? [23:42] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:43] hmm... [23:43] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [23:46] cm21 (i=0@190-95-19-167.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [23:46] ah raid-extra-boot="/dev/hda1,/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1" [23:46] that tells it which extra drives to hit up [23:46] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:46] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [23:47] and all that gets stuck in the boot partition of the mirror? [23:47] and that goes along with Dominian's boot=/dev/md0 [23:47] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] nevermind. i don't know what you're talking about. i thought i had it for a second and i don't anymore. [23:48] nullboy: yeah that was it.. raid-extra-boot.. [23:48] basically tells it what devices have the boot params [23:48] damn.. [23:48] sweet [23:48] Action: Dominian adds those to his mirror [23:48] testing now [23:48] Dominian: hahaha [23:48] gottta do that before I forget.. [23:48] yeah my ph3333r is loosing Primary master [23:49] too bad this stuff can't work with a redundant stripe method [23:50] hrm... [23:50] i'd love to use mdadm for R10 whole disk [23:50] I think I might have a problem.. If I remember correctly.. I have to have /boot on raid1.. [23:50] hmm [23:50] well i'll see if the same is true for me [23:50] hello everyone [23:50] hi [23:51] what's up [23:51] nullboy: well here's what I got: [23:51] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [23:51] nullboy: Fatal: Only RAID1 devices are supported as boot devices [23:51] doh [23:51] and it really is R1 right? [23:51] or is it R5? [23:52] oh crap [23:52] mine is raid5 [23:52] fssssssck [23:52] haha [23:52] nevermind [23:52] lol [23:52] I installed wicd, but does not start [23:52] I forgot I updated the mirror to raid5 [23:52] Dominian: someone needs to come up with some voodoo so we can do R5 or R10 on full disks [23:52] without need of /boot [23:53] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [23:53] aye [23:53] nullboy: it kind of sucks having something like hda1 hdb1 hdc1 just for /boot [23:53] and then hda2 hdb2 hdc2 for the raid5 [23:53] although /boot is only waht.. 100MB? [23:54] yeah i did 100MB [23:54] yah that should be enough [23:54] it's just slightly more complicated that why [23:54] way* [23:54] nullboy, do you understand why only raid 1 works? [23:54] well.. [23:54] straterra: yeah i know [23:54] Thiank about this nullboy .. [23:54] k [23:54] Can anyone help me? [23:54] straterra: i want voodoo done damn it [23:54] could be easier if you slapped lvm ontop of it [23:54] brb [23:54] i probably can't [23:54] or maybe i can [23:55] I installed wicd, but does not start [23:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:55] ok. i definitely don't know what you're talking about. [23:55] sorry [23:55] wicd is a service yes? [23:55] its a wired and wireless network manager [23:56] right, but I thought it ran as a service [23:56] maybe it's just the d in it [23:56] if it is a service then /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start ...would be my guess [23:57] at the boot, i think see a call fo wicd [23:58] dmesg | grep wicd [23:59] cm21: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/wicd/README.SLACKWARE , whether you got it from rworkman or alienbob, you've got to start the daemon as briareus suggested [23:59] Slack 12.2 will start wicd by default if it has it. [23:59] wicd is part of slackware now [00:00] --- Mon Jan 12 2009