[00:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] WOAH [00:00] someone actually said something! [00:00] been quiet here. [00:01] :D [00:01] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:01] Steve-Jobs also makes sailors blush, 3.3% of the time. lol [00:01] wtf does 'make sailors blush' mean? [00:01] sailors are known for using bad language quite a lot [00:01] 'cursing like a sailor' [00:02] yeah figured it out by the above the sentence [00:03] theres something wrong though. the latest topic seems too old to be set 5 days ago [00:04] prefer just 2010 ? [00:05] phrag: oh, it has that undesireable character in it too. [00:05] there's 2010 [00:05] personally dont have any preference [00:05] sheller (root@123.170.98.140) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [00:06] tsccof (tsccof@201-89-161-146.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [00:06] wow, I actually made it on to stats for 2010.. I'm surprised [00:06] ahaha azeotrope has the putty quote.. from when he tried to do x11 forwarding using ssh on windows without xwindows :D [00:07] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:07] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.92.154) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:08] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [00:08] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-105.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:09] Zordrak: stumbled upon yet another piece of reisub fun: /proc/sysrq-trigger [00:12] nater (~Owner@71.89.114.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:13] asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.200) joined ##slackware. [00:15] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:17] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [00:17] so, that ended up not working lol [00:18] but i think it's the usb stick... it said Boot Error and nothing else [00:18] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-183-102.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-183-102.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:20] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:21] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Necos, can you test the stick on another box? [00:22] too bad, btw [00:23] gonna try it again, and see if i can figure out what the error is [00:24] asarch (~asarch@189.188.149.200) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:26] sheller (~root@123.170.98.140) joined ##slackware. [00:28] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-43-243.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:29] phrag: what happened to slackboy's root kick? [00:29] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100623130017] [00:30] chopp: it could be reinstated =P [00:31] s/could/should/ [00:31] I was more curious than anything. I know it's worked off and on over the years. [00:32] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:32] sheller kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Running an IRC client as root is dangerous. Please restart your client as a user and rejoin the channel. [00:32] sheller: thou shalt not irc as root. :P [00:33] damn, missed em by that much. [00:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:37] \o/ [00:38] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:40] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. 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[00:57] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!phrag@about/slackware/phrag: || Channel Guidelines: http://is.gd/bYfOG | Logs: http://is.gd/bYfRK | Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ || http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | http://slackware.com/getslack | Torrent: http://is.gd/bYfM0 | Slackware 13.1 Released | Security: bind, mozilla-firefox, mozilla-thunderbird, seamonkey, cups, libtiff, libpng. [01:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:02] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:03] q/3 [01:03] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:04] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [01:04] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [01:04] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. 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[01:16] tune2fs [01:17] must admit it took a couple of tries with bath auto-complete to work that out [01:17] bath/bash [01:17] oh wow, damn, yeah, i couldn't remember it for the life of me [01:20] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:20] madbear (~dude@c-6c2ae655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:21] there we go... i get tired of my laptop hd fsck every 28 boots (since i'm trying to do an upgrade of the hd and having to replug my old one in) [01:21] you can ^C to cancel them :P [01:26] madbear (~dude@c-6c2ae655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:31] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:33] yeah, but why would i wanna do that, when i can eliminate the problem? ;) [01:35] mlangdn (~michael@69-196-193-79.customers.cinergycom.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] gniks (~sking@64.134.242.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[02:12] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:18] was it from bagira? [02:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:19] or frigg? [02:19] woh3: according to freenode faq ... someone was causing your irc client to return a client-name-and-version string http://freenode.net/faq.shtml [02:19] doesn't frigg give a message as well? [02:19] (frigg's a freenode bot that ctcp versions every new connectee, spam protection measure iirc) [02:20] WildWizard: not for me [02:20] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:20] hmm maybe it's when i read their faq then [02:21] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [02:21] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. 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[05:14] i got a error in xscreensaver [05:14] its cannont display :0 [05:14] cannot* [05:14] Guest86794 (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [05:15] and it says it must be authorization problem [05:16] nvision (~nvision@g225052195.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:16] blacklinux, works here in 13.1. [05:16] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: No route to host [05:17] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:17] blacklinux, how you starting it? [05:17] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:18] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) joined ##slackware. [05:18] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:18] well someone said it here that i should start runlevel4 then [05:18] it should be fine [05:19] if i reverted it back to runlevel 3 [05:19] but its still the same [05:19] btw im using 13.1 here also [05:20] here, init4, using wmaker and start xscreensaver without problem (as regular user) [05:21] what do you mean init4? [05:21] blacklinux, you starting it using same account which started X session ? [05:21] runlevel 4 [05:22] yeah [05:22] after i log in [05:22] then after i log out [05:22] i found the problem [05:22] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [05:22] saying [05:22] cannot start display:0 [05:22] it should be some authorization problem [05:22] someting like that [05:23] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:23] what do you think bitlord? [05:23] I don't know :( [05:24] aww.. [05:24] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [05:24] are you using init3 also?? [05:25] not now, and usually not for X session [05:26] are you using X session? [05:26] now, Yes I'm in X session [05:27] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [05:28] Is xscreensaver working? [05:28] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.9.131) joined ##slackware. [05:28] yea its working rworkman [05:29] because the errors that you see when exiting X in runlevel 3 are harmeless [05:29] Then it's fine. Ignore those. [05:29] well i just want to remove it :) [05:29] Well you can't [05:29] like i want to run with error free LOL [05:30] iirc, it has to do with how the session is closed, but I don't recall details. Regardless, it's not a problem, so don't worry about it. [05:30] ohh.. [05:30] As others have indicated, use a graphical login manager (e.g. kdm, gdm, lxdm) and you'll never see the messages. [05:30] i like old school :) [05:30] and yeah..one thing [05:31] when i switch to init4 [05:31] I personally love gdm. I gave it some extra love in the build at SBo too :) [05:31] I did an lxdm build too though. [05:31] then of course i see a grahphical user [05:31] interface [05:31] but why it is not XFCE and its KDE [05:32] Because kdm is the only one installed in Slackware by default, so you get it. As to why it puts you in kde rather than xfce, that's because kde is its default session. You can select xfce or others instead. [05:33] ahh [05:33] thanks [05:33] if irc has a +rep button ill give you one :) [05:33] :) [05:35] g2g rworkman [05:35] thanks for the help [05:35] :) [05:35] ill be back for some more :) [05:35] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:36] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:36] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:37] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [05:38] which is better for you, src2pkg or sbopkg? [05:39] what is the different? 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[05:59] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:00] Go subscribe to my new YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/openterror I'll bake you a cake if you do! :p [06:00] sbs` (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:00] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [06:02] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:03] op ^^ [06:03] from the baclog: "nickals < kicked from ##slackware by slackboy [Banned: slackin, you've been warned *repeatedly* about that spambot, er, pugbot shit.]" [06:06] adrien, what [06:06] that has nothing to do with pugbot [06:11] waximum (~waximum@host-90-239-83-140.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:12] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:17] baby_angeI (bat@41.236.13.236) joined ##slackware. [06:20] gniks1 (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[07:06] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:07] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: No route to host [07:07] deepfreez (~alex@unaffiliated/deepfreez) joined ##slackware. [07:08] hi, i need a documentation for how to make a dhcp server with mac [07:10] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [07:11] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [07:17] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDA70.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [07:27] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-189-238.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:29] Destructo (~chatzilla@64.134.103.107) joined ##slackware. [07:30] hey hey all. i havent been here in years.. did a new install. now i have a nice blank screen [07:31] Destructo! [07:31] heyhey [07:31] try a different video card =) [07:31] yea. i found an old ibm. thought id try it [07:32] newyork (~newyork@p5DC91781.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:32] hi [07:33] i have another old pice here. the mouse goes nuts in kde.. is that a video card issue? [07:34] how do you see what other DNS are assigned to an IP address? [07:34] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:34] sounds like it [07:34] whois ipaddress [07:35] Teratogen is there a way to f9ix that? [07:35] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:36] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Destructo the only thing I can think of is try a different video card [07:36] like, I installed slackware 13 [07:37] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:37] and I tried to find a xorg.config file [07:37] guys, i try to get back the default font in my slackware 13.1, in the installation i chose an other font than the default. i changed the entry in /etc.rc.d/rc.font but i still have the old and not the default font [07:37] apparently Slackware/KDE doesn't use X configuration files any more [07:37] it just figures it out from the video card and the monitor what to do! [07:37] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:37] remember when you used to have to do xf86config over and over again until something worked? [07:37] well there is no more xf86config! [07:37] v4nelle (~van@79.107.249.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:38] it uses X11 now [07:38] and it does matter how X is configured [07:38] gniks, where is the X configuration file? [07:38] I looked in /etc/X11 [07:38] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:39] its /etc/X11/xorg.conf [07:39] I don't have that [07:39] there is no xorg.conf by default anymore since 13.0 me thinks ._. [07:39] leontopod@intertwingled:/etc/X11$ ls [07:39] WindowMaker/ app-defaults/ fs/ fvwm2/ mwm/ rstart/ seyon/ x3270/ xdm/ xinit/ xkb/ xorg.conf-vesa xsm/ [07:39] thats not a slackware or KDE issue [07:39] I have an xorg.conf-vesa [07:39] Xorg is getting smart enoug that it can run without an xorg.conf now days [07:39] but I don't think X is using that [07:39] however if you want specific things, you need to configure it [07:39] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [07:39] gniks, right [07:39] that is what I am trying to say! [07:40] Yeah it configures automaticly via HAL [07:40] gniks, they got rid of xf86config [07:40] run xorgsetup if you want slackware to probe for a default conf [07:40] but you can still create an xorg.conf, the good thing is you only need to put the things you want to change there [07:40] gniks where should i look to try to fix this crazy mouse. [07:40] or is there an xorgconfig? [07:40] xf86config is old [07:40] its no longer used on any distro [07:40] the Xorg config is /etc/X11/xorg.conf [07:41] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.148) joined ##slackware. [07:41] I don't have a xorg.conf gniks [07:41] will xorgsetup create one? [07:41] yes [07:41] you also aren't required to have one [07:42] xorg is smart enough to run without one unless you need specific settings that aren't default [07:42] Fatal server error: [07:42] Server is already active for display 0 [07:42] whups [07:42] can't run xorgsetup while X is running! [07:42] =) [07:42] no [07:42] :p [07:42] but that is good to know, thanks gniks [07:42] gotta turn off x [07:42] np [07:43] forgot about xorgsetup . [07:43] xorgconfig doesnt help [07:44] yeah :p [07:44] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [07:45] you can also use Xorg -configure [07:45] pretty much the same thing i believe [07:45] xorgsetup is a script written for slackware [07:48] im on a ubuntu dell mini right now [07:48] ;9:( [07:48] ha [07:50] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [07:51] how the wireless support IN 13 .. out of the box? [07:52] i can use cd1 to run xorg stuff .. since it starts blank.. right [07:52] if the card is support , one only has to add the regaing essid, password to the config file, wpasupplicant works right away [07:53] its a prism .. [07:53] you can just run slackpkg install X11 afterwards then it pulls the whole x11 from the net [07:53] the old 802.11b orinoco/prisme just works [07:54] well its booting blank . i can use the cd right .. hugesmp.s root=/dev etc.... [07:55] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-77-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [07:58] baby_angeI (bat@41.236.13.236) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:58] ok here i go.. new installl... [08:00] hey i only need cd1 and cd2 right .. [08:00] titopoquito (~tito@p508ED01A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:00] titopoquito (~tito@p508EEB46.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] archceza1 (1000@agd73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:06] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:07] archcezar (1000@abww138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:07] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. 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[08:17] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:18] Ok - I'll get back when I wake up [08:19] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [08:20] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [08:21] deepfreez (alex@unaffiliated/deepfreez) left ##slackware. [08:24] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:25] LanEast (~lane@220.179.136.55) joined ##slackware. [08:26] LanEast (lane@220.179.136.55) left ##slackware. [08:27] eXgame (~eXgame@78-60-222-36.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [08:31] zoran119_ (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] hi people [08:31] i have a line in .bash_profile that says 'HISTIGNORE="[ \t]*' [08:32] and bash history keeps ignoring all the commands that start with 't' [08:32] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [08:32] i'm trying to get it to ignore all the ones that start with a space [08:32] what am i doing wrong? [08:32] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] \s ? [08:33] also you prolly want "^ " or something like this [08:33] the \t it tab [08:33] "^[space]" is probably the one you want [08:33] "^[:space:]" or that [08:34] mine's easier though [08:34] according to the bash manual page the match is anchored at the begining of the command line so ^ is probably not neccesary.... i think... but will try [08:34] zoran, maybe so, then just match " " [08:35] mancha: but it needs to match to whole line... which would be " *"... but that doesn't work either [08:35] hey sorry. but 2hats the command to NOT start in gui. how do i change runlevel again [08:35] init [08:35] " .*" [08:36] yeah, probably need to match the rest of the line too [08:36] or telninit [08:36] mancha: nope... tried it [08:36] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:38] got it... i think [08:38] installed ..... damn 99 99 99 99 etc .. [08:38] rather than '\t' literally... i inserted a tab characher using vim [08:39] boot disk i just made is useless [08:40] zoran119_: won't work probably [08:41] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.42.86) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:42] HISTIGNORE takes a list of arguments separated by colons, to have commands preceded by a space be ignored HISTIGNORE=" *" [08:42] adrien: seems to [08:43] gniks: that's the way i read the docos but it wouldn't work [08:43] works for me :p [08:43] i don't like having any kind of ignore var set though [08:43] makes it to easy for unsuspecting users to get rid of evidence [08:44] googling also says that [\t]* works, but haven't tired that one [08:44] gniks: i do 'export http_proxy ....' at work sometimes and wouldn't like my password written to history [08:45] you have a password on your proxy? [08:45] you could also just specify *http_proxy* as well [08:45] zoran119_ yeah HISTIGNORE is a good option then [08:45] and any other commands you may enter your password with [08:46] "[\t]*" i haven't seen work, but " *" seems to work for me [08:46] milage may vary hehe [08:46] gniks: yep... it works... i had ' *' when i tried that one instead on " *" [08:46] all good now [08:46] thanks heaps! [08:46] sweet :) [08:47] i just did a new install. reboot and i get 99 99 99 99 etc.. how do i fix lilo [08:47] zoran119_ (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:47] i havent done this in a while.. [08:48] first do you know what error is? [08:48] its alilo boot error. [08:48] what do you get when you run lilo -v ? [08:48] i cnt get a promt [08:49] how did you install this? [08:49] slackware 13 cd1 and cd2 [08:49] 13.1 [08:49] so boot cd1 [08:49] ##slackware: mode change '-bbbb *!*@cpc1-cove4-0-0-cust40.sol2.cable.ntl.com *!*@unaffiliated/bagira *!*bagira@* *!*cpunch*@*' by g0v!~g0v@phra.gs [08:49] ##slackware: mode change '+bbbb *!*@cpc1-cove4-0-0-cust40.sol2.cable.ntl.com *!*@unaffiliated/bagira *!*bagira@* *!*cpunch*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:49] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@72.95.96.226' by g0v!~g0v@phra.gs [08:49] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@72.95.96.226' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:49] wow i think grep is smoking crak tonight [08:49] bah, this is gonna take too long. sorry, go read some docs. [08:50] ha . ok [08:50] whats crak, gniks ? ;) [08:50] ah, nope, there is a broken symlink in the 13.1 Xorg package [08:50] its /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -> xinitrc.kde [08:50] prolly cause i don't have kde installed on this box [08:51] mancha i coukld use cd1 right [08:52] j0z_ (unix@189.115.84.166) joined ##slackware. [08:52] j0z_ (unix@189.115.84.166) left irc: Changing host [08:52] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:52] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:52] wow, ive completely forgot about how to use ! to search bash history [08:53] Action: gniks falls in love with bash history all over again [08:54] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:54] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.40) joined ##slackware. [08:54] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[09:03] ##slackware: mode change '-o g0v' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:04] Destructo: yes [09:05] as long as it's using the same kernel as you - there's a difference in libs between 13.0 and 13.1, so if you run slack 13.1 you need to use a 13.1 cd/dvd/usb boot [09:05] Other interesting numbers [09:05] epoch wasn't very popular, getting kicked 24 times! [09:06] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [09:07] monstro (1000@201-92-44-200.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Where I find Openoffice in tgz for Slack 12.2? [09:08] sbo [09:09] you may also be able to get by with the 13.1 sbo since ooo is java-based [09:09] i doubt the sun->oracle disaster will be good for us folks... [09:10] t0f (~10000@dialup-4.238.252.150.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: t0f [09:10] I'm still trying to get the ibm mpeg4 java encoder to work in ooo - but that's a different issue [09:10] not related to oracle [09:10] I've got mpeg1 to play, though, so that's a start [09:11] can i use cd1 to some how fix my L 99 99 99 error [09:12] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.42.86) joined ##slackware. [09:12] for a 13.1 install? yes. [09:12] Destructo: as noted, us the cd/dvd/usb boot media of the same version of slackware to make sure, but yes - you can fix lilo [09:12] alisonken1home: you heard about go-oo? [09:13] adrien: heard about it - haven't played with it yet [09:13] go-oo? [09:13] alisonken1home: it uses gstreamer as the multimedia backend [09:13] nevermind i asked. [09:13] ok i m in the cd. i have roo@slackware# what conmmands do i need [09:13] non-Sun/oracle version of Open Office designed for handhelds [09:13] lilo -v doesnt work [09:13] jg71: go-oo.org, kind of fork which follows sun/*'s oo but tries to have a more "open" approach [09:13] targets performance too [09:14] mount your boot partition (where etc/lilo.conf is), then "lilo -c /etc/lilo.conf [09:14] " [09:14] alisonken1home: not only handhels, regular computers too [09:15] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:15] adrien: I'm mainly looking for an impress player rather than the full suite, but I'll take what I can get :) [09:15] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [09:15] alisonken1home sorry i havent done this in awhile. how do 9iread fstab and how do i mount [09:15] Action: Destructo scared [09:15] alisonken1home: well, gstreamer should be much much nicer to use [09:15] and install [09:16] adrien: isn't gstreamer already in the base setup? unless of course it's not in the kde setup [09:16] Destructo: what's your partition layout and what type (ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs) is the partitions foratted? [09:17] formatted [09:17] alisonken1home: it is :-) [09:17] might need some more plugins, worst case they're on sbo [09:17] ext4 its formtted. i just did a new install. no dual boots [09:17] other than ms-encoded mpeg4 rips :) [09:17] (they are split in 'good', 'bad', 'ugly', ugly isn't in slackware, not sure about bad, I think it isn't but it's in sbo) [09:17] Destructo: how did you partition your drive? [09:18] cfdisk [09:18] Destructo: not "what did you use" but "what partitions did you create?" [09:18] alisonken1home i have cd1 in right now. [09:18] linux linuxswap exdt4 [09:18] what partition did you set for your root partition? [09:19] linux [09:19] partition 1 is what? partition 2 is what? [09:19] partition 1 is linux 2 is linux swap [09:19] my setup is sda1=/boot, sda2=/ (root) sda3 is swap sda4 is /home [09:20] so you installed all of slackware on partition 1? [09:20] yep [09:20] and it's the first/only hard drive in your system? [09:20] ive done this a billion times. its just i havent been around in like 5 years [09:21] alisonken1home yes [09:21] mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf [09:22] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [09:22] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:23] adding linux One warning issued, root@slackware:/# [09:23] reboot and see what happens [09:24] same [09:25] may have to rethink your parition layout then [09:25] how big is your disk and what kind of computer are you using? [09:25] like 80gigs. 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[09:32] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDA70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: laters o/ [09:32] alisonken1home http://pastebin.com/bW5djLXL [09:34] how about lilo.conf [09:36] alisonken1home i cant open it [09:36] you have to mount the partitiom first before you can get to it [09:37] Nick change: j0z__ -> j0z [09:37] j0z (unix@201.22.21.72.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [09:37] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [09:39] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:39] i did [09:40] i didfatal cannot open lilo.conf. [09:40] nader (nader@85.133.204.122) left ##slackware. [09:41] inm going to read up. than kls. im leaving starbucks also. its getting busy with asswipes [09:41] bbl [09:41] Destructo (~chatzilla@64.134.103.107) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:41] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:07] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Client Quit [12:08] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [12:08] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [12:11] good evening... [12:14] howdy mancha. [12:15] sizzers (~sizzers@c-68-41-173-143.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] do you think yoru country makes history today? [12:15] john_dee (~id@93-81-116-228.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:15] john_dee (~id@93-81-143-105.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:16] can someone please tell me the linux equivalent of "ipconfig /displaydns"? I can't seem to find it :( [12:16] cat /etc/resolv.conf :) [12:17] basically [12:18] incorrect... please try again [12:18] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:18] sizzers, what does ifconfig /displaydns do? [12:18] your dns servers are in /etc/resolv.conf [12:19] excellent question nacho... one should understand that before venturing a response to the question aye ;) [12:19] sizzers: he is absolutely correct. you should understand your OS before making blatant bullshit retorts [12:19] theres something else besides the ip of a dns server to configure? [12:20] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [12:20] doesn't matter cause all the options still go in /etc/resolv.conf [12:20] /displaydns shows your dns cache [12:22] Razec (~razec@187.34.24.246) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:23] i think it is smarter to ask something like "how do you show your cached dns lookups in linux" rather than how do you do $RANDOM_WINBLOWZ_COMMAND anyways... [12:23] the answer is linux (or slackeware more precisely) doesn't default to caching dns lookups [12:23] you'd use a caching dns server instead [12:24] also being an asshole isn't the best way to get assistance here [12:24] heh [12:25] JonathanD (~JonathanD@freenode/staff/jonathand) joined ##slackware. [12:26] i think the core linux stack takes a hostname and performs the DNS query for it right? doesn't require dnsmasq or bind does it? [12:26] core linux stack makes no sense [12:26] Lose the attitude. [12:26] "stack" is one of those terms that is used by people who dont know what it means to try to sound smart. [12:27] stack you, you stacking stacker! [12:27] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [12:27] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [12:27] hhgh (~hhgh@212.183.140.4) joined ##slackware. [12:28] so much hostility in here [12:28] Resolver routines are implemented in glibc, not in the kernel. [12:29] hey now, don't forget about the core stack [12:29] hhgh (~hhgh@212.183.140.4) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:30] What about the quad core stack? [12:30] that's so yesterday. now we have six cores [12:31] But an apple only has one core. [12:31] ananke: ='( [12:31] Guest86794 (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [12:31] brz (~BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:31] and, yeah, resolving is done in glibc, except when it's not :p [12:32] rigth like when it requires tcp/ip [12:32] like when the programmer decides not to use it :p [12:32] hell, bind's own tools like nslookup bypass a lot of those [12:33] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:33] ananke: NSLOOKUP IS NOT A BIND TOOL! into your corner. [12:34] ?! [12:34] Action: ananke runs off [12:34] adaptr: yes it is, but it is a broken and buggy POS. [12:34] okay, then it is a "tool", with all that implies [12:34] i like nslookup and it is made by the bind consortium [12:34] mancha: don't use nslookup, it is broken [12:34] Action: rob0 wishes nslookup would go away already [12:35] broken how? [12:35] rob0: they're probably only keeping it because microshaft pinches it off'f em every new version [12:35] fxer (~fxer@c-8306e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:35] why not use host? [12:35] windows would break if they removed it [12:35] Skywise: because that has nothing to do with DNS [12:35] host is fine too... [12:35] adaptr you're on a roll! [12:36] host is also a dns resolver [12:36] i use it to look up dns entries, what do you use it for? [12:36] I am a roll... a swedish one [12:36] mancha: no, it is not. [12:36] 0 for 2 [12:36] you're digging yourself a hole. get it? digggin... [12:36] what is it? [12:36] host is a client interface to the system resolver libraries, which can use DNS. but don't need to [12:36] woah [12:36] eh? [12:36] adaptr: if host isnt for DNS, why does it come with bind? [12:37] host (1) - DNS lookup utility [12:37] um, host is a DNS client ... nslookup is *usually* but not always a DNS client [12:37] i think someone is misconfusification with /etc/hosts [12:37] yeah yeah, next you're going to say it doesn't respect nsswitch either [12:37] and gethostbyname() [12:37] mwalling: not DNS either, no [12:37] no, host does not use nsswitch [12:37] adaptr: host *IS* DNS [12:37] 0 for 3 [12:37] yer out [12:38] come back in 2011 with clue [12:38] mancha: I would settle for 3-1, but thanks for the confidence [12:38] sizzers, linux can run a name server cache called nscd [12:38] ewww [12:38] nachox... thanks but not really what i'm lookin for [12:38] or you can run bind as a caching only server [12:38] adaptr: gethostbyname(3) uses the system resolver libraries. host(1) uses DNS directly. [12:38] if that is running then rndc dumpdb will dump the contents of the cache [12:38] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left ##slackware. [12:38] nachox a few things, bind can be set up cache only (quite easily) and dhcpcd does this cheaply... [12:38] mwalling: yes. okay. so, NOT dns. [12:39] sizzers, otherwise, then there is no cache to dump [12:39] there's a cache in linux nativelly... it just looks like there's no way to display/print it as there is in windows [12:39] [12:39] wait, how is using DNS directly NOT DNS? [12:39] mancha, nscd does more than dns cache [12:39] lol mwalling... thank you so much [12:39] i really didn't want to have to respond to that statement myself [12:39] ok but you only spoke of name server cache...so i was responding to that [12:40] but i'm glad somebody pointed out how senseless it was [12:40] if it also does your laundry then all bets are off... [12:40] Slackware does not activate nscd by default. Probably a good thing. [12:42] will nscd cache dns lookups via host/nslookup? [12:42] I doubt it, but not sure; I never used nscd. [12:43] so it caches gethostbyname lookups only? [12:43] nslookup lookups might go through it, host/dig would not. Yes, I think that's so. [12:43] brz (BrZ@201-41-94-232.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("."). [12:44] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:45] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@178.128.135.119.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [12:45] rob0: but host uses the system resolver libraries! [12:45] err, there is no cache other than nscd, i dont know where you've got your information [12:45] Action: adrien uses communicates with the dns server with smoke signals [12:46] s/uses // [12:46] doesn't host just use libdns and such? [12:49] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:49] mancha, you tell us, run ldd $(which host) [12:49] nachox, no thanks. [12:49] i'm lazy. you! [12:51] nacho@pentest:~$ ldd $(which host) | grep dns [12:51] libdns.so.43 => /usr/lib/libdns.so.43 (0xb7f53000) [12:51] lazy bastard... [12:52] thanks, plus i couldn't miss a live rendition of waka-waka!! [12:52] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-161-146.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:53] ITechJunkie (~ITechJunk@ip98-162-243-126.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:54] i was watching the same thing :) [12:54] she was doing playback [12:54] yah [12:56] youre dutch mancha ? [12:58] ITechJunkie (~ITechJunk@ip98-162-243-126.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:58] nope nachox, so i don't have a horse in this race. but i think spain will win [12:58] Why do you ask, because Dutch means lazy? :) [12:58] also, i think i just saw some ubuntu users in the audience.. [12:59] haha [12:59] no, because i thought he was dutch :P [12:59] i am supporting neither, but i also think spain will win [12:59] Action: BP{k} stabs rob0 [13:00] is bpk dutch>? [13:00] Action: BP{k} also stabs mancha and nachox ;) [13:00] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [13:00] yes :) [13:00] xD [13:00] Holland will win ._. [13:00] even though the octopus said otherwise [13:00] paul said pain? [13:00] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:00] spain* [13:00] yup [13:00] paul's not been wrong yet...! [13:00] I know [13:01] he saw that we will loose against spain and that we will win against Uruguay [13:01] mancha: uhm .. he has been wrong before. [13:01] he has? [13:01] When? [13:01] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left ##slackware. [13:01] He will be tonight [13:01] germany ? [13:01] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:01] which did he miss? [13:01] I'm german [13:01] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [13:01] @ thrice` [13:02] Paul hasn't missed one and he predicts Holland will lose today. [13:02] Yeah [13:02] Spain - Germany in the past to name one ;) [13:02] No [13:02] he said Spain will win [13:02] ?? [13:02] :( [13:02] paul said germany would lose [13:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus#Results [13:02] Damn fish [13:02] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] cephalopod!! [13:03] oh so he has been incorrect two times [13:03] lets hope it will be 3 times this evening [13:03] Action: Roin doesnt want to see spain winning >.< [13:03] still means that the statement "He has not been wrong yet" is basically and fundementally false. :) [13:03] oh, you mean back in 08, the eurocup... [13:03] Roin: me neither :) [13:03] he is 100% in 2010 [13:05] ariarat (~ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Personally I think the team that scores the most goals will win the game ;) [13:05] we'll see, whatever the result, i hope it's exciting. [13:05] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. [13:05] mancha: indeed. :) [13:05] Sneijder and Robben are very dangrouse ._. [13:06] so's villa and occasionally torres [13:06] Spain can only win if they kill one of them in the first 5 minutes [13:07] neonflux_^ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [13:07] neonflux_ (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [13:07] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [13:08] Roin: nah. Spain is pretty good. It's going to be interesting as they never really met before in world stages. [13:08] Spain never was world class before @.@ [13:09] but they are now. They didn't get to this place by playing with their tackles. [13:09] Thats indeed true [13:09] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7D6F2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] I really hope .nl will win, didn't take tomorrow off for nothing! [13:10] surrounder: either way ... you'll have a hangover to nurse ;) [13:11] xD [13:11] BP{k}: so true :P [13:12] neither of these teams ever won a world cup, right? [13:12] yup [13:12] it'll be a first regarsdless of outcome [13:12] i hope it is a good match [13:12] i like how both teams play [13:13] But holland was in a WC final though, I think they lost against us iirc [13:13] they've been finalists a few times [13:13] was? [13:13] spain never even hit semi final before [13:13] being from Argentina myself I like well played football [13:13] adrien: no? [13:13] ¿ [13:13] not done yet ;p [13:14] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.138.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:14] he means in earlier WCs [13:14] Yeah [13:14] the netherlands reached the final in argentina in 1978 too [13:14] in 74 and 78 [13:14] oh, ok, I thought you were even less aware of what's going on than me ;p [13:14] fxer (~fxer@c-8306e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:14] adrien: uhm no :p [13:15] hehe shitload of vuvuzelas already in the centre [13:15] and 4th place in 98 methinks [13:16] mancha: correct. [13:16] Action: nachox thinks villa will score at least once today [13:16] then he might take the golden boot! [13:17] he is tied with muller and forlan at 5 right now, i think [13:17] Sneijder has 5 as well I think [13:17] 4 [13:17] oh [13:17] and one of those is very controversial in my opinion [13:17] Sure even with the funny goal against brazil? [13:18] yes inclusive [13:18] oh ok [13:18] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425393.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:19] uruguay scored a great goal yesterday. i actually dislike how they play but results are results [13:20] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-217.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] We won though [13:20] I like the way Uruguay presented themselfs this WC [13:20] Not as rough as before, they played some very nice football [13:21] That girl running naked in the streets ... how could that be wrong? [13:21] lol *agreed* [13:21] a post in minute 92+ though? eek [13:21] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.138.66) joined ##slackware. [13:21] hahah [13:22] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:23] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Roin, i was wrong. [13:23] You were right, with the questionable goal against brazil, Sneijder is at 5 too [13:24] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) joined ##slackware. [13:24] questionable goal? [13:24] rirombo (~rirombo@h43.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] nvision (~nvision@e179135085.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:25] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7D6F2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:25] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] yes the brazil auto-goal was credited to wesley [13:26] oh.. well... referees screwed it big time during this world cup [13:28] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ok, time to grab some dinner so i'm ready for things. bbl [13:29] bon appetit [13:29] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:29] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [13:30] Grr. One of the most frustrating things is when things work perfectly, then I change something, and then spend four hours trying to figure out what the hell I changed and why it's not working any more :\ [13:31] hehe, so it is [13:31] the trick is to figure it out before you make the change [13:32] Indeed [13:32] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.40) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [13:32] wait for btrfs [13:32] after that you will be able to make a snapshot of the system before making any changes [13:33] Quick question: should utf-8 locales have .UTF-8 at the end or .utf8? Or it doesn't matter? "locale -a" uses .utf8 [13:33] hba (~hba@189.130.36.30) joined ##slackware. [13:33] nachox: The problem would still remain, because obviously I didn't think that makings those changes would affect anything :P [13:35] Lawn (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] Plus, what's up with Ubuntu documentation telling people to "restart your system" instead of something like "pkill skim && scim d"? [13:36] scim -d even [13:36] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] we don't actually understand why ubuntu does anything [13:37] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:37] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Hehe, fair enough :) [13:37] maybe cause most ubuntu users don't know how to use cli. [13:38] bullshit [13:40] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-176-41-24.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [13:40] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [13:40] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:40] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:41] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [13:42] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [13:48] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:49] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [13:49] IMHO, if ubuntu tells to it's users "hey, execute this command.." then ubuntu will be just as the others linux distros (which ask to their user to know wtf they are doing with every command they execute) BUT ubuntu does not want to be just like the others. [13:50] so, there you have "restart your system". [13:50] I can see that [13:51] I guess they are trying to bring Linux to the mainstream [13:51] And succeeding, since Dell sells Ubuntu systems now [13:51] the alsa version in kernel 2.6.33.4 is alsa 1.0.21, but I need alsa 1.0.23 for my soundcard... when will Slackware64-current upgrade to a kernel with alsa 1.0.23? [13:52] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:52] Knoxville (~Knox@c-98-240-188-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] bravo on ubuntu brtinging linux to the mainstream [13:53] but [13:53] i'd rather not see everything change on linux just change just because it got popular [13:54] just because [13:54] if you had a choice between ubuntu, RHEL, or trusting the it department from one of the worlds largest companies to handle your server needs, which would you choose? [13:55] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:55] hmmmm [13:56] i just wouldn't use it [13:56] mwalling: you're mixing different topics here, one thing is a desktop (which i think rirombo was talinkg about) and another a server. [13:56] the tail wagging the dog is never a good idea [13:56] then say ubuntu-desktop, not ubuntu [13:57] I was indeed talking about ubuntu-desktop; my apologies for not being specific in that regard. [13:58] mwalling: i think you're the only who need to say that, cause we *already know* that is about the desktop ;) [13:58] maybe i'm just insecure in the fact i need to use ubuntu-server [13:58] Action: mwalling goes in the corner and cries [13:58] Action: rirombo pats mwalling [13:59] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:59] Action: nachox looks at everyone and points to paul the octopus [14:00] that is cool, not ubuntu [14:00] i tried to install alsa-driver 1.0.23 with linux 2.6.33.4, but got unresolved symbol unregister_sound_special... what did I do wrong? [14:00] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:00] nachox: jajaja :) [14:02] about the "mainstream", if a distro (whatever) is interesting *to be in*, then it should be prepared for one thing, users problems and that means bug/feature request and that means more developers and that means more money.. or something like that. [14:03] slackware expects its users to fend for themselves at the least and help the community if they can [14:04] ubuntu can't expect anything but helplessness from its users [14:04] that is wrong [14:05] i know many ubuntu users that know how linux work [14:05] they're not the intended audience [14:05] and i'm sure theres more then a few who know the kernel doesn't make chicken [14:05] Skywise: yeah, thats why im still using slackware since 5 years ago :) [14:07] nachox: many + 1 :) [14:08] all i'm saying is that you cannot dissregard a user because of the distribution he uses [14:08] sure you can [14:09] Skywise: do you dissregard me? [14:09] mac os users are even worse then ubuntu, at least ubuntu users suspect they're using unix [14:09] who? [14:09] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:09] all we know that slackware users are just a bunch of fat-ugly-bastards without any life.. and girlfriend btw ;) [14:10] slackware users are all old guys in beards and shorts drinking beer [14:11] and use glasses.... [14:11] anyone know when the game starts today? [14:11] Heh. Funny enough, I currently have the first two conditions, so I'm just missing a beer.. [14:12] Does a Coke count? [14:12] also a slackware user names its first children as "makkena", or something like that... [14:12] Poor children.. [14:13] jajajajaja :) [14:13] rworkman: take that!!!! [14:14] Action: nachox considers banning rirombo [14:15] For starting a discussion like this? :P [14:16] rirombo: http://rlworkman.net/makenna/ [14:16] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:17] Action: rirombo just got the whole rworkman reference.. [14:17] its ok everyone else was just as suprised the first time they found out [14:17] rworkman: I apologize, I meant no offense to you or your daughter. [14:18] he'll stop bleeding eventually, don't worry about it [14:18] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [14:18] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [14:19] That was still rather rude of me [14:19] lol [14:19] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:19] no one thought you hated his kid [14:19] lord_darwin2 (~lord_darw@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] nacho was teasin [14:20] yeah, all was a joke... i think rworkman would see it like that too. Nothing serious. [14:20] I realize that :) I just thought rworkman deserved an apology. [14:20] no way [14:21] g0v (~g0v@phra.gs) left irc: Changing host [14:21] g0v (~g0v@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:22] no, the only thing this channel takes seriously is off topic discussions [14:22] now that can get you banned [14:22] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:22] Will keep that in mind [14:22] BANNNNHAMMMMMEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR [14:22] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-12-213.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] soooo, to be on topic... screw ubuntu users.... [14:22] religion and politics are the most taboo [14:23] hba: distro bashing is frowned upon also [14:23] also ontopic, screw hba [14:23] jajaja :) [14:23] Dont feed the troll -.- [14:23] phrag: slackware is a religion... [14:23] Roin: which one of us? [14:24] Action: BP{k} buggers off to watch the match which seems to be more interesting than the current discussion here.... [14:24] that was a general comment, I'm not in the position to judge about someone :-) [14:24] BP{k}: still 12 minutes [14:24] they're not even on the field yet [14:24] BP{k}: /script load lolz.pl [14:24] oh i asked when it was gonna start a while ago [14:24] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.30.231) left irc: Quit: Bye.......... [14:25] also ontopic, opening abuse tickets with your provider when you cant host your DNS zone because the person you asked to host it for you years ago is still hosting it for you [14:25] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:26] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Entulho (~foo@187.52.146.74) joined ##slackware. [14:29] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:30] Knoxville (~Knox@c-98-240-188-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:33] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:33] go for kernel 2.6.34! [14:34] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-217.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [14:39] i've read in some forum that the kernel in slackware 13.1 is buggy, is that true? im still in 13.0 [14:40] i don't think that true morese than any particular kernel having bugs [14:40] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:40] well, HDMI audio output won't work for me with the kernel in 13.1, because ALSA is 1.0.21... 1.0.23 is needed for HDMI audio [14:41] john_dee (~id@93-81-143-105.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [14:43] it's not a bad match [14:44] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:47] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:47] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [14:47] hello [14:48] mancha: yeah, sure. [14:48] ggh (asshole@easy.and.friendlydrunk.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:48] foobarz: gogogo 2.6.34.1 [14:49] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [14:49] I have a with my slackware installation. I used lvm and I make an initrd file. But when I'm booting I have the following error : http://pastebin.com/79bzP2p0 Using the generic kernel there is no problem. Do you know what's going on ? [14:50] tsccof: will 2.6.34.1 break anything? I'm on 2.6.33.4 right now. [14:51] foobarz: not sure, I haven't tried it yet. I am on 2.6.33.4 as well, but I will probably build 2.6.34.1 tonight [14:51] foobarz: probably won't! 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[15:03] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:04] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:05] vldmr (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [15:05] hba (~hba@189.130.36.30) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:08] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:08] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:09] janemba: Where you trying to boot the huge kernel by any chance? [15:11] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:11] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:12] stormtracknole: Nop I compiled the kernel. This the compiled kernel that causes the kernel with the generic one it is ok [15:13] what version of alsa-driver comes with slackware 13.1 kernels? I'm using 2.6.33.4 from kernel.org... the same? [15:13] janemba: I had the same problem if I was using the huge kernel. When you built your initrd, did you pass the correct arguments? ie. the correct kernel version? [15:13] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:14] Also, what did you use as a source for your .config file? [15:14] foobarz: Slackware does not ship an alsa-driver package. [15:14] At least that I know of. [15:15] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.6.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] stormtracknole: hmm...the old one for my distrib but I modified it [15:15] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [15:16] janemba: You may want to consider using your current working config file as a startup. [15:16] stormtracknole: yes, I guess alsa-driver is part of the kernel package, but it is a little confusing to me [15:17] stormtracknole: yes I can do it [15:17] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [15:17] janemba: Try that first, and then pay close attention when building the initrd. [15:17] stormtracknole: ok thx [15:18] janemba: I looked through my config file, I don't see any mention of LVM on it. [15:18] stormtracknole: a confusing part is that alsa-lib and some other alsa packages are 1.0.23, but I think the kernel is only having alsa 1.0.12 drivers... that is a confusing mismatch of version numbers [15:19] stormtracknole: I think this is the device mqpper things [15:19] stormtracknole: I mean, having 1.0.21 in the kernel, sorry [15:20] oh well... I will have to be quiet about my alsa problem and just wait for slackware64-current to update the kernel and stuff later :) [15:20] janemba: I haven't tried building a custom kernel while using LVM. May need to do that to see if I run into problems. [15:20] foobarz: How can you tell what alsa version a kernel is using? [15:21] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:21] stormtracknole: ok [15:21] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] stormtracknole: cat /proc/asound/version [15:21] foobarz: eh, learned something new today! :) [15:21] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-189-186.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:22] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [15:22] foobarz: are you having a problem with a specific hardware? [15:22] foobarz: good luck with everything. [15:23] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:24] Ooopss, that last message was meant for janemba. [15:24] foobarz: Maybe alsa-driver doesn't run at the same version of alsa-lib? [15:24] stormtracknole: I am trying to get snd-hda-intel + snd-hda-codec-nvhdmi + snd-hda-codec-realtek (and some other modules) to work to output sound out my HDMI cable on a GeForce GT 240 to my TV, I want default S/PDIF sound 48KHZ/16Bit to go out HDMI and coax S/PDIF [15:25] ;) [15:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:26] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:26] foobarz: Gotcha. I just checked the alsa website, and it looks like alsa-driver is also at version 1.0.23. [15:28] stormtracknole: yes, I downloaded that and tried to install alsa-driver with my kernel, with just soundcore compiled-in, but when I tried to load the snd-hda-intel module from alsa-driver 1.0.23 with my kernel, it failed with missing symbols [15:28] mdeanda (1000@cpe-75-84-179-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:29] foobarz: Gotcha. Have you tried building the latest kernel? [15:29] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f26d:2ae9:51c4) joined ##slackware. [15:29] mdeanda (1000@75.84.179.19) joined ##slackware. [15:29] stormtracknole: I am afraid to upgrade the kernel past 2.6.33.4 since that is the kernel that slackware ships and has glibc and everything compiled against [15:31] my problem is goofy, but I'm sure it will work later [15:31] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [15:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:33] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f580:ad65:fb78) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:34] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:34] Axius (~hi@92.82.65.82) joined ##slackware. [15:36] foobarz: That shouldn't be a problem as long as you leave your current working kernel intact. Have you read Alien Bob's kernel building tutorial? [15:36] Nick change: Plasmastar -> Guest57578 [15:36] stormtracknole: I have not read that. [15:37] Guest57578 (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [15:38] foobarz: It's a GREAT tutorial. Very easy to follow. You are not actually building a slackware package, so you won't touch your current working kernel. If it doesn't work, just reboot and go back to the working one. [15:38] It may take a couple of tries to get it right, but once you get the hang of it, it's very easy to do. [15:38] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [15:39] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:41] nordwind (~nordwind@217.8.225.45) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:44] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [15:45] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] vldmr_ (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [15:46] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-189-186.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:47] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:47] Axius (~hi@92.82.65.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:48] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:49] vldmr (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:53] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-70-164.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:53] that is a nice tutorial with some good details... I have installed kernels before (I do normally), but I do it simpler [15:54] Hope you can that resolved. [15:55] Me too. My solution is at hand: alsa-driver 1.0.23. Just to get it successfully installed! [15:57] eXgame (~eXgame@78-60-222-36.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:58] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:58] I guess I will download 2.6.34.1 and see what happens [15:58] auska_ (~auska@83.53.212.122) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:59] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [16:01] I will report my fail/success here later. [16:01] foobarz: Good luck! Hope I could have been of more help. [16:01] foobarz, in triplicate please [16:03] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:04] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:05] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:05] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [16:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:13] Entulho (~foo@187.52.146.74) left irc: Quit: . 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[16:22] you need a driver that can do access point (master) mode as well, or bridge mode [16:22] then learn how to set them up - and be secure as well [16:23] i think he was saying his tower doesn't have wifi [16:23] the other problem is if you think that one wireless card can act as both a client (noteboot -> internet) an a master (tower -> notebook) [16:23] what Skywise said [16:23] Skywise: by his description, his laptop has wifi access, but his tower has no access [16:23] yes [16:23] not even wired access [16:24] go old school and run ppp over serial or something [16:24] lol [16:24] that would work [16:24] hrm [16:24] don't you have ethernet? [16:24] opnet: buy a usb wireless nic for $25 [16:24] it'd be easier to use ethernet though [16:24] assuming of course the harware in question isn't so new as to not have serial ports [16:24] if your laptop and tower both have wired ethernet available, use a crossover cable between the laptop and tower cheap [16:24] I have no money [16:25] if you have autosensing ports they might work with a regular cable [16:25] do you have a wireless card for your tower? [16:25] but i was in best buy the other day trying to buy an xover cable and they didn't have any [16:25] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:25] I run into auto storms with a lot of auto-negotiate on both ends [16:25] oh [16:25] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:25] never thought about that [16:25] better to just use a crossover cable/adapter [16:25] yeah you're right [16:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:26] I'm pretty sure I have an ethernet crossover cable [16:26] theres no way to tell which one to stay normal [16:26] do I need to alter any configs? [16:26] you just need ip and netmask, no gateway [16:27] kind of - either learn if your laptop wired/wireless will work with bridging, or learn how to ipforward between wired/wireless on the laptop [16:27] hm, alright, I'll brb, digging through my cable box [16:27] still need a gateway [16:27] and then your tower uses your laptop for a gateway [16:27] I was thinking what Skywise said [16:27] you want the laptop to use the wifi for its gateway and nat the ethernet [16:28] fxer (~fxer@c-8306e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:28] aw shit [16:28] sister broke her arm [16:29] gotta go [16:29] bbiab [16:29] good luck [16:29] opnet (~HMP@wnklmb01dc1-216-222.dynamic.mts.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:29] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:30] tekzilla (~jon@d166240.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:30] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Hi. [16:30] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Besides gcc, which is obvious, what other compiler does Slack come with? [16:30] Tryingi to learn a new language and going with whatever Slack has. [16:31] riza: you know java? [16:32] tekzilla (~jon@d099135.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:32] compiled? well you can do C, C++, fortran, java bytecode (all thanks to gcc), as far as interpreted you have perl, python, tcl, etc [16:32] gcc is just the compiler - the languages are varied and many [16:34] thumbs, I have learned it but did not like it. [16:34] I was hoping to learn LISP. Does Slackware come with that? [16:34] no [16:34] ;_;... [16:35] Do you folks know any programming language that would also improve my math skills? [16:35] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:35] any language that requres you to do math - remember, it's the calculations that matter, not so much the language [16:36] for math skills practice, that would be a project issue, not a language issue [16:37] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Hm.. Interesting. [16:38] I guess.. either Python or Lisp... [16:38] Action: riza throws a dice. [16:38] (it'd be a die) [16:38] die [16:39] don't know lisp, like python [16:39] "a dice" is singluar - correct [16:39] Thank you raela + mancha! [16:39] Oh. No thank you then! D:< [16:39] alisonken1home: no it isn't [16:39] a die is singular [16:39] rael+mancha correct, alison = WrOnG [16:40] Axius (~hi@92.82.65.82) joined ##slackware. [16:40] oops - correct. my bedtime :) [16:40] Action: raela does the victory dance [16:40] macarena? [16:40] pole? [16:40] bunny hop? [16:40] lap [16:41] woot! [16:41] even better! [16:41] Action: mancha gets his singles... [16:41] now that is a victory [16:41] I did it to myself, though [16:41] sweet [16:41] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:41] i'd like $50 in singles, please. kthnx [16:41] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Action: riza is totally confused. [16:42] you just gotta be double jointed [16:43] I get a lot of practice [16:43] I wanted to keep learning C but there are some tough questions that I hesitate to ask in #c because of Zhivago. He tells pretty much everyone to die. [16:43] thats no way for a doctor to behave [16:43] best way to learn is to get a good book and code [16:43] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) joined ##slackware. [16:44] the best way is to try it and see [16:44] and hope you don't kill your computer in the process [16:44] you have to learn to debug before you can code [16:44] you can get another one [16:45] you could always try it in a vm [16:45] Psh that's not the problem. It's the logic of my program I have. [16:46] Two loops, then a few ifs and Zhivago go "re-learn the entire C or just die", or in other cases, many cases, "answer my question or I ban you". [16:46] write it in pseudo code then transcode it ot C [16:46] Hm good idea... why had I not thought of that?! [16:46] Actually someone assisted me for that code in here I believe. Said I was sloppy, just needed more practice. [16:46] thats how they teach you to write code in class [16:46] Hm.. [16:47] True. [16:47] riza: that's abusive, IMO [16:47] sounds like every teach i ever had [16:48] thumbs, you could go in #c and see for yourself. :| [16:48] riza, i fixed a program that was a bubble sort, was that your code i fixed on here? [16:48] Freenode folks won't do anything about it because they said he is too smart to be killed off. [16:49] mancha yep! I believie so. [16:49] believe* [16:49] well theres gotta be some benefit for being smart [16:49] lol [16:50] True, but apparently "too smart". I'm told he has some kind of autism. [16:50] So he knows everything about C but can't socialize. [16:50] everyone on irc has some degree of aspbergers [16:50] yeah welcome to IRC [16:50] its where i first even heard of the term [16:51] it's internet disease [16:51] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [16:51] though I have met someone with an asberger's diagnosis. there was quite obviously something off [16:52] asperger [16:52] bah whatever [16:52] But I didn't know autism can make you curse at people and tell them you wished their whole family died. [16:52] lol [16:52] it does whatever you need it to [16:52] hah, you dished it out with "die" you gotta be able to atake it too! [16:52] yeah um that's the internet, welcome to IRC [16:53] mancha don't make me send you to your room! [16:53] mancha, I diid?! [16:53] riza ?!? [16:53] someone failed at reading comprehension [16:54] Oh that slipped by me! [16:54] Whoosh! [16:54] Action: mancha confuzzled [16:54] *hic* [16:54] I believe riza was quoting #c statement, not making one of his own [16:54] mancha: you got the top spot in stats! [16:54] alisonken1home: no, it was about dice / die [16:54] ..by a good shot =P [16:54] ah [16:54] alisonken1home: because I screwed up asperger's [16:55] phrag oh shit. in what? [16:55] http://phra.gs:8000/ [16:55] as in most lines or summit? [16:56] you could just read the link and see [16:56] i cant [16:56] why not [16:56] riza (2845) [16:56] D: [16:56] geeze, i need to shut up [16:56] mancha - 2.3K more comments than anyone else [16:57] i'm talking almost as zordrak [16:57] 2,300 ???? [16:57] ok, that's unacceptable. i can fix that. [16:57] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [16:57] 11547-9279 [16:57] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-104-160.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:57] The-Croupier <3 [16:57] Lots of :)s. [16:57] 2268 more comments than Zordrak [16:57] Axius (~hi@92.82.65.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:58] ha [16:58] i used to live with him lol [16:58] phrag: did you? [16:59] You know Zordak? [16:59] yeh.. well, more like he rented a room in the place i lived [16:59] I've seen some pictures of phrag on this website on the page in the topic [16:59] which was a small 4 bedroom student house in newcastle =P [16:59] ah, a frat house. [17:00] Roin: i dont knowerm... not really [17:00] huh? [17:01] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] sorry, uber lag shell... [17:02] no i dont know zordrak in person [17:03] Oh ok [17:03] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-193.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:06] fxer (~fxer@c-8306e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:06] all i have to say is that paul the octopus was right again [17:07] that stupid octopus was right about the cup [17:07] oh lol you said it too [17:07] yeah [17:07] perfect record [17:07] holland lost [17:07] the octopus has been correct again ._. [17:07] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:08] LOL [17:08] jeev, I LOVE the octopus, it's not stupid. [17:08] I demand an apology. [17:08] anybody know how to capture a screen/display and stream it? [17:08] i think they're quite tasty [17:08] espescially on pizza [17:08] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:09] Action: rob0 apologizes [17:09] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [17:09] I am success. I have HDMI audio to my TV working with kernel 2.6.34.1 on Slackware64 13.1/current! Now, I'd like to get the "default" audio to always go out both S/PDIF and HDMI, but I don't know how to make it copy output to both. [17:10] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:11] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [17:14] stormtracknole: I talked to you eariler right? I did it! LOL :) [17:15] sammy2 (~sfasfs@cpe-98-14-37-53.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:15] sammy2 (sfasfs@cpe-98-14-37-53.nyc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [17:17] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:17] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] foobarz: Yes, it was me. [17:19] Congrats!! [17:20] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:20] foobarz: Just make sure you adjust the s/pdif channel. [17:21] The audio is sent to all available channels. 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[17:31] i lost the SATA controller for my harddrive that has the boot sector on it [17:31] that's not good [17:31] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:31] I moved the drive to another controller on the HD [17:31] o_0 [17:31] booted linux with a boot disk, chrooted, ran lilo [17:32] then I rebooted [17:32] nothing [17:32] i dont know what to do, besides get a new motherboard [17:32] i should beable to boot in, after switching to SATA 4 [17:32] hang on... data is on the drive [17:32] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDA70.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:32] you can rebuild the MBR [17:32] right now I am using SATA 2 and 4 [17:32] you "should" be able to revive it [17:33] I thought I did rebuild mbr when I ran lilo [17:33] but when I rebooted, nope [17:33] im stuck at bios [17:33] can you boot the drive from a slack disk? [17:33] this doesn't have to be pretty at the moment [17:33] i can chroot into the drive from a slack disk [17:34] so the drive is fine... [17:34] yes, the drive is fine [17:34] the issue is a bad SATA connector on the MB [17:34] its SATA 1 [17:34] give me a moment, i need to find something i jotted down... [17:34] may help [17:36] my configuration is thus: SATA one (now two) holds MBR, FreeBSD, Windoze 7 Ulitcrap. SATA four holds Slackware 13.1 no MBR sectors [17:36] KaMii: i can't find my note -- start here: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/94-how-do-i-restore-mbr-linux.html [17:36] restoring the mbr isn't the same as redoing lilo [17:37] but it should not really be a MBR issue, its switching the MBR drive to a different SATA controller [17:37] i didnt know/think that would be an issue [17:37] unless my MB is st00pid and requires SATA one to be functioning [17:37] which its not it died [17:38] what do you mean by "mbr drive"? [17:38] the drive that houses my MBR [17:38] How many data backup do you folks think is enough? [17:38] riza, reasonable depends on how often your data changes... [17:38] stormtracknole: I have hw:1,3 hw:1,7 hw1,8 and hw:1,9 ... and the seem to work with different kinds of audio output, like stereo, ac3, or dts [17:40] im not sure thats the problem shonudo [17:40] shonudo, hm.. interesting. I mean average home users. [17:40] stormtracknole: trying them like.... mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7 movie.mkv etc... I have to try different hw:x.x depending on the audio in the file I think... I'm still trying to figure it out! [17:40] I have 2-3 hard drives that are duplicates of each other. [17:41] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:42] riza: on important files i never want to lose, I put those not only on a separate HD but also on tape backup [17:42] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:43] i never waste time backing up system files, just user files, or custom kernels and stuff like that [17:43] everything else can be rebuilt [17:43] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7D6F2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:44] foobarz: Yikes, that's a tad out of my league. I'm still stuck using analog cards. :-( [17:44] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [17:45] KaMii, same. [17:46] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [17:46] got it back shonudo [17:46] changed bios settings for the HDs [17:48] good deal! [17:48] very good [17:49] good KaMii! [17:49] nvision (~nvision@e179135085.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:49] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7D6F2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] nvision (~nvision@e179135085.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:51] well i am still getting HUB errors, I was hoping that was the SATA issue, I need to buy a new MB [17:51] seems a lot of things are breaking [17:51] i wonder if it was the heat in the past few weeks [17:51] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Client Quit [17:51] i've had sata controllers fail in the heat [17:52] (only temporarily, though) [17:53] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:56] e01 (~e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:21] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [18:22] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [18:22] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:22] Curious. When I do ls -l I see permission, then I see a singular number, what is that number? man ls doesn't say. [18:23] sure it does - it's the ugo permissions - u=user g=group o=other [18:24] each number is a number from 1 to 7 that is actually an octal bit encoding for read permission, write permission, execute permission [18:24] inode it looks. [18:24] Oh no no, not the numbers, I meant like this. [18:24] -rw-r--r-- 1 [18:24] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:24] See? [18:24] ok - don't think it's the inode number [18:25] info coreutils ls [18:26] Ooh I see, it's the amount of links to it. [18:26] 1 for itself. [18:26] 2 for another hard link. [18:29] It seems like directories have much hither link count. One for itself and one for every file in the directory? [18:30] something like that [18:30] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:30] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.6.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:31] since normally directories have extra files under it, but standard files will typically not have many ( if any) hard links to it [18:31] soft links are another matter entirely :) [18:34] bosth (~ben@85.96.156.126) joined ##slackware. [18:35] sub-directories have a hardlink to their parent directory [18:35] (it's ..) [18:37] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:37] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. 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Currently using debian, but I wanted to ask if anyone has a similiar setup with slackware before I go through an install just to find out the same issue happens [18:50] the share will randomly vanish, then just reappear.. can watch it happen if I repeatedly ude df -h [18:51] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [18:52] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-112.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:53] not sure if it's an nfs issue, kernel issue, or automount issue.. have tried a few distro's (all debian based) so my next move is to put slackware back on and see what happens with that [18:53] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [18:54] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-10.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:30] save *.debug syslog information in a file and check whether something is logger there when this happens [19:31] nachox: will give that a try, thank you [19:31] schoene (~user@cpe-65-189-214-151.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:31] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] anyone pass me a txz link of kernel 2.6.34.1 ? [19:32] pls [19:32] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [19:32] AbsTradELic: slackpkg install-new [19:33] newbieslacker (~cahin@190.226.153.234) joined ##slackware. [19:34] AbsTradELic, 2.6.34? is it in slackware tree? [19:34] http://kernel.org/ [19:36] Inflatableman (~ryanschul@gateway.publicvpn.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] bitlord: nops [19:38] thrice`: I would like to get a txz [19:38] I would like a ferarri [19:39] thrice`, :D [19:41] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:41] AbsTradELic, I think it's hard to find .txz (If someone build it, I think he doesn't use a generic, it builds minimal custom kernel) (this maybe is not true, but I think that way) [19:41] hah [19:41] schoene (user@cpe-65-189-214-151.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [19:42] Inflatableman (ryanschul@gateway.publicvpn.net) left ##slackware. [19:43] AbsTradELic, use kernel config from 13.1 and try to build 2.6.34 with it, do make oldconfig [19:43] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:44] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [19:50] sizzers (~sizzers@c-68-41-173-143.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:50] tnks [19:51] sizzers (~sizzers@c-68-41-173-143.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] nvision (~nvision@e179135085.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:53] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.145) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:55] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:58] How can I define /var/log/secure? [19:58] I know it logs everything that is currently running and so on. [19:58] But..? [19:59] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.144.33) joined ##slackware. [19:59] /etc/syslog.conf ???? [20:00] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:00] _skycrash_ (~sky@189.58.127.25.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:00] <_skycrash_> \o [20:01] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Private authentication message logging [20:01] Gotta turn this into a definition hm.. [20:03] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-15-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:03] lori (~lori@c-66-56-10-90.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:04] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:04] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:04] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [20:04] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.94) joined ##slackware. [20:05] Also what have you guys done with cron? I need ideas. [20:07] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:07] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:10] ideas for what exactly? [20:10] "A lot of tasks that a systems administrator would perform need to be repeated weekly or even daily." [20:11] I cannot imagine any task that needs to be repeated on a weekly or daily basis. Just trying to figure out like what? [20:12] uhmm, what are you quoting? [20:12] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [20:13] and there are plenty of sysadmin tasks that are done on a regular basis: log rotation, slocate db rebuild, check for updates, man db updates, etc, etc. it varies with needs. [20:14] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:14] <_skycrash_> hey, what software is best to crpyto a full partition ? dm-crpty or truecrypt ? [20:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:15] <_skycrash_> i need crypt my /dev/sda8 256gb [20:15] _skycrash_: LUKS is a linux standard, and it's often integrated better. [20:16] <_skycrash_> ananke: ow... thanks [20:16] [yes, that means dm-crypt] [20:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:23] thrice` [20:23] ananke, college stuff. D: [20:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:25] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [20:26] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:27] riza: so you're doing homework? [20:27] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.145) joined ##slackware. [20:27] "Please enter the URL of your CPAN mirror. CPAN needs access to at least one CPAN mirror. As you did not allow me to connect to the internet you need to supply a valid CPAN URL now." [20:27] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [20:27] How can I set the CPAN mirror? [20:28] I have a slackware64 system that is trying to crash on me. I'm running KDE with firefox and gxine and now there is no response from keybard or mouse. From an ssh session from another PC on my lan I see that X is hogging up 99.6 percent of my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+ [20:28] asarch: when you run cpan command, or perl -MCPAN -eshell, or perl -MCPAN -einstall, for the first tim, it will ask you for that [20:29] asarch oconf [20:29] Ant that is after killing firefox and gxine. [20:29] o conf [20:29] google it, it's an easy task [20:30] What should I kill next? [20:31] 1787 root 20 0 518m 106m 11m R 99.6 10.6 53:10.18 X [20:31] asarch: o conf init urllist [20:31] what jeev [20:31] usr13, have you restarted X in awhile? [20:31] go back to your room, rita and i need it. [20:31] thrice`: No [20:32] Not in a couple days. [20:32] 2 days 22 hours. [20:32] 19:29:09 up 2 days, 22:04, 8 users, load average: 0.99, 0.90, 0.52 [20:33] Is there any way to update the mirror sites via cpan? [20:33] cpan CPAN::MirrorList [20:33] ? [20:34] thrice`: What is the best way to restart X? [20:34] telinit 3 ; telinit 4 ? [20:35] guys, do you think possible to use wget to download a file only if it's different from one which is in a directory ? [20:35] asarch: o conf init urllist [20:35] it's about this file http://geolite.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/GeoLiteCity.dat.gz [20:35] something like rsync [20:35] usr13, you can pkill X , but it'll kill everything of course [20:38] paissad: what is the problem with using wget for that? [20:39] explorer.exe has crashed [20:40] BP{k}, if i do wget "url/file", knowing that the file is already present in the current dir where i run wget ( wget does not download anything) [20:41] so, why do you want to wget it? [20:41] paissad, wget has lots of options, im sure it can [20:42] thrice`, i want to download the file twice a month because the file has the same name (no version in the filename) .... & that file is update about twice a month ^^ [20:42] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:42] i always want to have the latest available file as soon as possible ! [20:43] paissad: man wget? (you're looking for the -o option) [20:43] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:43] BP{k}, i thought about downloading the file & save it in another name, doing a diff, & then mv it if there are differences ! [20:44] something like that ! [20:44] BP{k}, i did take a look at man wget (the -o option is the log file ) [20:44] the -O for the output name file ! [20:45] paissad: so what's the problem then. :) [20:46] BP{k}, i only expected wget to have an option that allow download only if the the file is not already downloaded & not different ! [20:46] something like syncing ! [20:46] newyork (~newyork@p5DC91781.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:46] & different* [20:47] paissad:!!!!!!!!!! [20:47] hmm, [20:47] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:48] BP{k}, what ? [20:48] paissad: no need to put an exclamation mark at every sentence. [20:48] ananke, yes! :D [20:49] BP{k}, i don't do in purpose, it's a bad habit ,i know :) [20:49] paissad: 1) download the file with wget(1) 2) use diff(1) or md5sum(1), use exit status of diff to determine next action. Which is already pretty much what you said you want to do. I am failing to see your problem here. [20:51] I had no idea DAEMON actually stood for something. [20:51] D: Disk and execution monitor! [20:51] duh [20:51] Action: jeev notates the definition [20:51] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [20:52] LOL [20:52] >.>... [20:55] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:56] newbieslacker (~cahin@190.226.153.234) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:56] paissad: wget has -mirror and also -N [20:57] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.30.50) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:57] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [20:59] You know, if I shouldn't edit crontab, the maker shouldn't have put it there! [21:03] Wow. [21:03] There is such thing as scp. [21:03] :o [21:03] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Read error: No route to host [21:03] riza: you're making no sense [21:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:03] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:05] this just in, thrice` compared penis sizes between users of all linux distributions and came up with the results that slackware users far exceed any other distribution users length. the winners? the users of ubunti, centos and fedora for finally having people see their weeners. the losers? slackware users which have to affiliate with thrice`. [21:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] Redness (~redness@c122-108-211-162.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:09] Redness (~redness@c122-108-213-51.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:09] ananke, scp = secure copy. These two chapter teaches ssh and cron. Both of which are administrator's tools. I just never knew about scp and never touched ssh until now. It's cool though, never knew they were this useful. [21:11] riza: yes, i know what scp stands for. and i wouldn't call scp or ssh as 'administrator' tools. they're not limited to administrative functions at all. normal users use them. [21:11] ssh and cron are user tools, not just administrative. [21:12] ananke, I know, but in this context, administrators use them too. :3 [21:12] TClayton, -N seems enough for me , thanks mate [21:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:13] riza: that still doesn't address your odd comment about 'i shouldn't edit crontab' [21:14] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:15] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.145) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:15] ananke, oh, crontab says this: "# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. [21:15] " [21:16] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:16] lol I was making a bad joke. :| The typical "if he didn't want it, he wouldn't have put it there" kind of joke. [21:17] riza: i somehow doubt you're actually running 'crontab' [21:17] you ought to be doing 'crontab -e' to edit them [21:19] ananke, I'm not, everything is simulated on a lab equipment this college has. [21:20] I had no idea 1> = STDOUT and 2> = STDERR, not sure what the difference is between > and 1>. [21:20] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:20] none [21:20] Ah! :D Okay thank you! [21:20] lokii (~bort@pool-71-174-180-222.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:41] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:43] Okay going to sleep now, after this study, t hanks all, good nght. [21:43] thanks / night [21:43] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [21:47] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6BFA4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:55] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488EA92.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [21:57] hitest (~chatzilla@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [22:02] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-77-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:03] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:04] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [22:05] I'm unable to run 32bit firefox anymore because "/usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: No such file or directory" [22:05] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/run-mozilla.sh: line 143: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:06] terry: find / -iname 'firefox-bin' [22:07] You might start by describing how you arrived at this state of affairs. [22:07] "just happened" [22:08] rob0: Was that for me, or tank-man? [22:08] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin [22:08] nachox (~Ignacio@241-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:09] ignore me [22:09] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@81.30.184.67.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:09] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:09] snL20: If I issue command: [22:09] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin [22:09] terry: file /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin [22:09] it complains "No such file or directory" [22:10] terry: what is the output of this command: "echo /var/log/packages/aaa_base*" [22:10] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [22:10] terry: are you on 64bit ? [22:10] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) joined ##slackware. [22:10] /var/log/packages/aaa_base-13.1-x86_64-2 [22:10] ok [22:10] since we're all guessing here, I might as well join in: "ldd /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin" [22:11] terry: make sure you have the 32bit libs [22:11] pastebin OF COURSE [22:11] snL20: Yes, but have 32bit libs [22:11] he said "isnt working anymore" implying it worked before [22:12] terry, try /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox [22:12] rob0: that's an idea... it does sound like he's missing lib32-elf* or something like that [22:12] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/run-mozilla.sh: line 143: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:13] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:14] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [22:14] find / -iname lib32-elf* [22:14] returns nothing... [22:14] do you know what that command even does terry ? it's quite worthless [22:15] terry; is there a reason why you want to use a 32bit firefox? [22:15] BP{k}: Because flash-plugin64 does not work. [22:15] ANd I had it working for a couple days. [22:16] so, what did you change? [22:16] But today the system hung with X using 99percent CPU [22:16] lol, that was my first question :) [22:16] And had to reboot [22:16] >_> [22:16] where does slackware 64 bit store 32 bit libs anyway ? [22:17] it doesn't, it's pure64 by default [22:17] snL20: slackware64 doesn't. [22:17] /usr/lib/ [22:17] slackware64 does not HAVE 32-bit libraries, but it can coexist with slackware libraries [22:17] BP{k}: so you have to install them yourself ? [22:17] snL20: yes, but alienBOB has a nice article written about it. [22:17] if you choose to multilib, you can put them anywhere you want; alien's stuff uses /usr/lib/ [22:18] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [22:18] tank-man: so you followed the article by alienBOB for 32 bit libs then ? [22:19] Yes [22:19] and it worked fine. [22:20] tank-man: did you update firefox ? [22:20] I also found that my processor in this XCcube was at max temp 69C [22:20] uhm [22:20] ... may have. [22:21] terry: maybe you should try grabbin the 32bit firefox for the version of slackware that you got the libs from and try to install that [22:21] lord_darwin2 (~lord_darw@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:22] _skycrash_ (sky@189.58.127.25.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:22] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:25] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:26] snL20: Same error: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 143: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:27] schoene (~user@cpe-65-189-214-151.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] did you run a simple installpkg on your 32-bit package? [22:27] thrice`: Yes. [22:28] so you installed now 3 versions on top of each other? [22:28] no [22:28] sure you did, 3.6.6 for 64-bit, 3.6.6 for 32-bit, and the regular 3.6.3 for 32-bit [22:29] I did removepkg mozilla-firefox first [22:29] each time. [22:29] ok :> [22:29] thrice`: its been a while but installpkg over and existing install wasnt a problem before iirc [22:29] ydrc [22:29] sett (~Mgeli@130-124-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:30] thrice`: what ? [22:30] you-don't-recall-correctly [22:30] But I can install firefox64 and it runs fine... so... ? [22:31] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:31] terry, sorry, not the multi-lib expert, but you're missing some stuff that makes your userspace understand the new architecture [22:32] i still can't install slackware in a virtual box [22:32] thrice`: I'm sure you are correct, just wish we knew what it is. [22:32] "no such file or directory" usually means "I don't even know what 32-bit is!!" not "i'm missing a dependency, try again" [22:32] terry, your glibc is multilib, right? [22:32] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [22:33] thrice`: Heck I don't know, but it worked for 2 days. ... until I rebooted. [22:33] terry: did you do the ldd ? [22:35] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [22:35] sett (~Mgeli@184-93-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] ldd ? [22:35] ldd glib ? [22:35] this may not be related, but I know from personal experience that if you have the wrong #-bit version of flash in your plugins directory it will keep firefox from opening [22:36] woh3: Really? [22:36] terry: you should removepkg that firefox package and installpkg 3.6.6.. then you can removepkg 3.6.6 and installpkg 3.6.3 [22:36] it was a problem I ran into last year, just thought Id mention it, may nor may no be related [22:36] terry: just out of curiosity: Can you pastebin the compat packages you have installed. [22:37] heya,folks [22:37] BP{k}: Sure [22:37] is this for a multi-lib install? [22:37] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:37] woh3: 32bit on 64bit [22:37] snL20: so it is multi-lib then? [22:38] "yes" [22:38] woh3: yeah [22:38] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:39] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:39] and you are installing a package, not compiling from sourcE? [22:40] or slackbuild? [22:40] Action: thrice` sends woh3 the backlog [22:40] thrice`: lol [22:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:41] terry: what do you get from ldd /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin ? and dont paste it into the channel [22:41] sorry, just wanted to make sure if he was compiling that he remembered to run . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh to set his environment [22:41] terry: or 3.6.3 if that's what you have now [22:42] http://pastebin.ca/1898734 [22:43] ldd: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:43] snL20: Yes [22:43] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:44] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:44] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:44] terry did you check that it may have been installed to /usr/lib64? [22:46] woh3: No, it's in /usr/lib/ and not in /usr/lib64/ [22:46] terry, you're trying to run /usr/bin/firefox, right? [22:46] I can't remember that dang command, does anyone happen to remember that command that will record your bash session until you log out, good for linux classes and homework? [22:46] as root do updatedb then locate firefox-bin, or which firefox [22:46] terry@XCcube:~$ /usr/bin/firefox [22:46] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 143: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:47] ok [22:47] fatalnix: script [22:47] YES! [22:47] thanks d [22:47] been bugging me [22:47] NP [22:48] lol. I need to use it to show someone how to do something so ill put it in a named pipe so they can watch [22:48] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.48.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:48] fatalnix: cool [22:48] crap, I guess I forgot how that worked.. [22:49] there is a way you can use a named pipe, one to send your terminal session to the pipe and another terminal to read from it with cat or something, so that someone can watch what you're doing [22:49] terry: im sorry if im a little behind here, but are you trying to run a build script for firefox? [22:50] locate firefox-bin [22:50] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin [22:50] woh3: No, just trying to get it to run. [22:50] have you tried 'which firefox'? [22:51] But maybe I should do just that. Download firefox from source and run slackbuild script for it and then install again? [22:51] which firefox [22:51] /usr/bin/firefox [22:51] and firefox & doesnt do anything in commandline? [22:51] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [22:52] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [22:52] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] file /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin [22:52] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [22:52] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:52] ahh the elf libs have been stripped, Ive heard about that being aproblem [22:52] firefox [22:52] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh: line 143: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:53] you should probably uninstall and do the slackbuild [22:53] woh3: and what on earth would that achieve? [22:53] Download firefox from source and run slackbuild script for it and then install again? [22:54] ? [22:54] just remember to run 32dev.sh before compiling and remember even though its 32-bit you still must pass the ARCH=x86_64 switch to the buildscript [22:54] of course that 32bits firefox is only binary repackaging. [22:55] Prefect (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [22:56] terry: what do you get if you do file `which ldd` ? [22:57] terry: also try linux32 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin [22:57] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:57] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [22:59] pupiteee (~p@109.93.234.99) joined ##slackware. [22:59] linux32 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin [22:59] linux32: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [22:59] terry: ok how about ldd ? [22:59] hi, how can i find in which package is the file: libltdl.so.7 ? [23:00] snL20: Look up ^^ [23:00] i need it for php.... [23:00] terry: file `which ldd` [23:00] /usr/bin/ldd [23:01] terry: it doesnt say anything about what type of file it is ? [23:02] terry: suppose you could just try opening it in a text editor if it looks like a shellscript then copy it to your home dir [23:03] 32dev.sh [23:03] bash: 32dev.sh: command not found [23:03] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [23:04] terry: I suppose you might as well reinstall cause you would prolly solve the problem faster that way... =P [23:05] /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh [23:05] bash: /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh: Permission denied [23:06] /usr/bin/ldd: a /usr/bin/bash script text executable [23:06] terry: cp `which ldd` ~ [23:06] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:07] ldd: a /usr/bin/bash script text executable [23:07] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [23:07] terry: what are you doing ? [23:08] what did you just ask me to do? [23:08] cp `which ldd` ~ > [23:08] > [23:08] ? [23:08] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [23:08] I didnt say > [23:09] terry: now if you have ldd in your home dir edit it with the text editor you are most comfortable with [23:09] I didn't either. That was a typo. What I ment to say was: "What did you ask me to do? cp `which ldd` ~ ? [23:09] terry: nano or preferably vi [23:09] vi [23:10] snL20: What do I need to change? [23:10] terry: find the line that says RTLDLIST= + a path to the ld-linux [23:11] terry: then change from 64 to 32 I'm guessing or tell me what the line says first [23:11] I see: RTLDLIST="/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" [23:11] so change to: RTLDLIST="/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib64/ld-linux-x86.so.2" [23:11] ? [23:11] terry: ok I assume you have both those files ? [23:11] or? [23:11] let me see. [23:12] terry: also do ls -l /lib/ld-linux.so.2 [23:13] /usr/lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory [23:13] /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86.so.2: No such file or directory [23:13] terry: well its not in /usr [23:13] terry: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 [23:14] terry: are you doing this as root btw ? [23:15] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:15] I don't seem to have either one. [23:15] terry: in /lib !? [23:15] terry: or in /usr/lib ? [23:15] ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux-x86.so.2 Neither of them. [23:15] terry, ls /var/log/packages/glibc* [23:16] /var/log/packages/glibc-2.11.1-x86_64-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-profile-2.11.1-x86_64-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-zoneinfo-2.11.1-noarch-3 [23:16] /var/log/packages/glibc-i18n-2.11.1-x86_64-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-solibs-2.11.1-x86_64-3 [23:16] thrice`: i'm getting pretty tired of this .. in fact I'm pretty sure he's just trolling now cause he is definatly not doing what i'm telling him [23:16] I thought you followed the multilib guide? :) [23:17] thrice`: I did... [23:17] without multilib libc, your system definitely cannot understand 32-bit goodies [23:17] And it worked, as I said for 2 days. [23:17] terry: static compile maybe [23:18] terry: or you removed the libs somehow [23:18] Not sure... [23:18] I had a system crash. [23:18] terry: did you upgrade packages recently using slackpkg? [23:19] I could move mouse but nothing would respond. I initiated ssh from another box and killed firefox and gxine and X was still consuming 98percent. [23:19] BP{k}: Yes. [23:19] obnauticus (~obnauticu@c-24-22-110-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] And that may have been what killed me. [23:19] terry: grep glibc /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [23:19] :) [23:19] obnauticus (~obnauticu@c-24-22-110-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:19] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [23:20] thrice`: nice call about glibc. :) [23:20] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Quit: work it harder make it better do it faster makes us stronger more than ever hour after our work is never over [23:20] I just like the "I didn't do anything!!" story, which is never true [23:20] I had an issue with cups and someoen here told me that there should have been a patch for it that I must have missed. Sure enough I ran slackpkg and there were updates, (not cups because I removed it and compiled from source) but other updates. [23:20] thrice`: indeed. [23:21] BP{k}: It's not there. [23:21] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [23:21] I suppose I was supposed to blacklist glibc [23:21] aaahhh that's where I messed up?.... [23:21] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib <--- it's mentioned there :) [23:22] and I quote: "If you use a package manager like slackpkg you will have to add all glibc and gcc package names to its package blacklist. If you do not take this precaution, you run the risk of your package manager accidentally replacing your multilib versions with Slackware's original pure 64-bit versions!" [23:23] yeah.. missing the right ld-linux... [23:23] If you use a package manager like slackpkg you will have to add all glibc and gcc package names to its package blacklist. If you do not take this precaution, you run the risk of your package manager accidentally replacing your multilib versions with Slackware's original pure 64-bit versions! [23:23] Yep. I blew it. [23:23] terry: or else ldd would have worked =) [23:23] snL20: uhm missing correct glibc versions :P [23:24] BP{k}: specifically yeah.. though ld-linux is in glibc [23:24] terry, upgrading back to the multilib should help [23:24] Wonder how I should go about fixing it? [23:24] multilib glibc* [23:24] thrice`: Just start over with it? [23:25] multilib glibc*? [23:25] you probably have all of your other stuff still in-tact [23:25] BP{k}: I was trying to list 32 lib deps with ldd for him so had him check for the ld-linux*so files and he couldnt find any [23:26] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.48.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:27] terry, yep; gcc probably got overwritten too, but that is really only used when you are compiling 32-bit. upgradepkg on both + blacklist 'em [23:29] Here's what did it: http://pastebin.ca/1898754 [23:30] I ran slackpkg and did not blacklist glib [23:30] careful, glib is NOT the same as glibc [23:30] o [23:31] Well, I see Jul 10 21:09 glibc-2.11.1-x86_64-3 in there... so [23:31] Not sure what to do to fix it tho... ??? [23:32] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [23:32] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) joined ##slackware. [23:33] terry, re-download the multilib package from alienBOB's site, upgradepkg it, then blacklist it if you use slackpkg [23:35] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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