[00:00] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [00:00] MLanden, heh. [00:01] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [00:02] Kamel (klo_391@c-76-123-106-90.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [00:03] how would I use cut to grab everything up until the first ':' ? [00:03] perfect_circle (~skalkoto@ppp079166031200.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:03] cut -d: doesnt work [00:04] cut -d: -f0 ? [00:04] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.147.26) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:04] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org [00:04] ahh, ok (and it's -f1) [00:04] yeah [00:04] i've never used cut before and it's kind of weird [00:05] its g00d [00:05] it makes smee happy [00:05] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> BuzzKillington [00:05] :) [00:06] it is crazy the amount of useful utilities you can find in /usr/bin [00:08] or you can do shell IFS tricks or awk FS tricks [00:10] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:10] ircnerd (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-tfuuqbchapzxvusa) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:12] The-Croupier (The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [00:13] what tool would i use to grab lines 5-10? [00:13] sed can print addresses [00:13] ah, okj [00:13] thats what i thought [00:13] sed -n '1,5 p' or so [00:13] cool [00:15] perfect_circle (~skalkoto@ppp079166002070.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [00:17] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Does anyone know whether LTO tape barcode labels can contain hyphens? [00:18] bobaka (~borko@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [00:19] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.193.92) joined ##slackware. [00:20] good morning [00:20] i don't know for sure one way or the other, but suspect so [00:21] Good morning everyone. I have a GeForce FX5200 and I'd like to install the proprietary Nvidia driver. I tried with the slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org to build the 173 legacy driver but it failed. when I try to load X with the "nvidia" driver dmesg shows this: " nvidia: version magic '2.6.29.6-smp SMP mod_unload 686 ' should be '2.6.29.6 mod_unload 486 '" and X doesn't start [00:21] i know that's kinda useless for you lol but [00:21] i've never seen LTO label with a hyphen [00:21] Kamel, ? [00:21] I tried downloading the driver from nvidia's site but it failed with the same error in /var/log/nvidia-installer...... [00:22] bobaka: with nvidia drivers it's generally best to use the binary [00:22] I tried removing the -smp kernel packages (kept the kernel-source package) but the problem persists. [00:22] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:22] Kamel, I'm not sure I understand you correctly. What binary ? [00:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:24] bobaka: not sure where you're trying to build from, but to get an actual binary from nvidia with nvidia drivers. if you tried one from the official site that isn't working i would actually recommend trying an older version [00:25] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [00:25] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [00:25] I downloaded this http://tinyurl.com/yey59s9 [00:25] kicked up into a text console, shat down X and everything [00:26] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:26] and typed sh NVIDIA*.run as root [00:27] After choosing accept the installer gave me a message Building kernel module and a progress bar which went all the way to 100% then it told me that it failed to load the kernel module and that I should check the log in /var/log/nvidia-installer.... [00:27] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:27] which had the error I mentioned earlier... [00:27] I'm not a Linux expert but it seems that It builds a module for a SMP kernel [00:28] but I am using a non-SMP kernel [00:28] Mel-nix (~melvin@117.255.76.8) joined ##slackware. [00:28] bobaka: yea, which indicates to me that you might need to get a package designed for that type of kernel, aka an older version [00:28] *shrugs* [00:29] Well if I boot the SMP kernel which comes with slack it loads [00:29] But I dont need the SMP kernel since this system is old. [00:29] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:29] Bah forget it... I'll just compile my own kernel I guess... [00:30] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [00:30] i was just giving you basic help, i'm not good with these specific problems [00:30] I'm grateful for that :) Sorry if I sounded offensive [00:30] if you want someone that can help, i recommend trying to get thunderbird to help [00:30] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:31] or someone from #nvclock [00:31] they are quite talented with nvidia drivers [00:31] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [00:31] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:32] bobaka: get the nvidia slackbuilds [00:33] dive: http://pastebin.com/LCiBGg00 [00:33] mag0o, I did. [00:33] Same problem :/ [00:33] trhodes, I just changed the script a little [00:34] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:34] ok, i'll check it out, i just wondered if you'd be interested (thanks, BTW, for that page - nice work) [00:35] haha ;) i see it's different now. [00:35] in bash, doesn't parameter expansion work in heredocs? [00:36] trhodes, ARCH will be a problem if say it's set for i686 in shell for building normal apps [00:36] that'd be another way to generali[sz]e it [00:36] ok, i hadn't thought much about it, to be honest (hopefully it's obvious I didn't test it) [00:36] so I set it to x86 which I *think* should also work for x86_64 [00:37] heredocs will I think but it's easier to line up the ruler this way [00:37] yes, i was thinking up some kldugy way to work around it :) [00:37] *kludgy [00:39] I'm testing again right now but it will be some time till it's done [00:39] eh, it's not worth the kludge :P [00:39] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:41] and downloading x86_64 iso to install in a vm [00:41] gonna be a while playing with it I think [00:41] if the heredocs are at the end of the line, would it be safe to assume that it'll still line up ? [00:41] erm, variables IN the heredoc :) [00:42] er eh? [00:42] i'll just play with it and see :) [00:43] one way could be to put the vars in front of the ruler.. [00:43] bobaka (~borko@77.78.15.8) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:43] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [00:44] PRGNAM-LOCALNAME |---- [00:44] PRGNAM-LOCALNAME bla [00:44] or some such [00:45] hey yeah, clever :) [00:45] but the version... *sigh* [00:45] ah but that will mess up the installpkg [00:45] yeah, that too :P [00:46] it'll print the ruler I expect [00:46] when you installpkg it [00:46] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.226.233) joined ##slackware. [00:46] wait, doesn't it just print _past_ the : delimiter ? [00:46] hmm maybe [00:46] need to test [00:47] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:47] you could ${#PRGNAM-LOCALNAME} spaces in front of the ruler [00:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:48] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] it doesn't print the ruler :) [00:48] so I can change that [00:49] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.90.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:50] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:51] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [00:52] crap I deletd my build dir [00:52] start from scratch :P [00:52] hasnt anyone ever told you what rm -rf * does dive? 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[01:22] using stable [01:22] and pommed [01:22] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-148.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [01:23] upgraded kernel manually tho, yeah mrselfpwn :P that was a better idea -current got scary with kernel 2.6.33 [01:23] if you remeber me from a few months back or so [01:24] macius: yes I do :) [01:24] im using dbus-1.2.14-i486-1 [01:24] could that affect anything [01:24] im reading somewhere with gentoo someone fixed this bug by upgrading dbus [01:24] or a similar bug actually [01:25] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] macius: I remember where I saw that error now, I ran into the same problem with a package I was building and still have not gotten it straitened out. heh [01:26] kernel 2.6.31, is dbus out of sync or sumtin :S not sure what dbus is at all actually but mentioning it since i noticed it [01:26] scanmem [01:26] ah [01:26] lol [01:26] heheh [01:26] thats depressing then [01:26] yeah [01:27] XD [01:27] could it by i didnt missed something when i compiled my kernel? [01:27] I really want to get it working too. [01:27] or no way [01:28] That is a good question actually because I have a very slim down kernel. [01:28] yup me to only have 5 modules loading :P everything seems to work tho [01:28] or 6 actually [01:28] lol [01:30] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:30] biker (~biker@201.130.138.150.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] hehe [01:30] quick question mrselfpwn? if i ever want to make changes by means of adding sumtin to my kernel to i have to run make mrproper or can i just jump into make menuconfig? [01:31] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.231.82) joined ##slackware. [01:31] just jump right nin [01:31] *in [01:31] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-223-108.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] kk [01:32] Yeah, It takes a lot less time too. [01:32] Also it helps to run make with the -j option. [01:33] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [01:33] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:33] BuzzKillington (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-22.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:33] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.226.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:34] yeah i read that somewhere and did it [01:34] :P [01:34] nice [01:35] eh would you know another solution to controlling my backlight? [01:35] i dont like the idea of havin to log into windows then restart to make my screen bright enough [01:35] :P [01:36] using xfce now, no more kde :) [01:36] lol. I use the function keys on my keyboard. [01:36] yeah mine arent mapped :\ [01:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:37] this sucks then ;) if i managed to fix that ill make sure to tell you gonna go to bed now still exam tomorrow :\ [01:37] take care [01:37] macius (~macius@i209-195-72-228.cia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:45] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [01:47] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [01:49] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [01:49] hey pprkut [01:50] hey trhodes [01:51] should I use the slackbuilds submission form to take over pulseaudio ? [01:51] you don't need to do anything special [01:52] it's marked as unmaintained right now, so one your next update just mention you want to be the next maintainer and it will be alright :) [01:52] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:52] ok :) [01:54] Kilroy (KilroyHigg@2002:8036:bdf9:a:c042:88af:91cc:26d2) joined ##slackware. [01:54] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-178-31-123.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [01:59] lee555J5_ (lee555J5@68.113.105.67) left ##slackware. [02:00] lee555J5 (lee555J5@68.113.105.67) left ##slackware. [02:02] init[1] (~init1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:07] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:11] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [02:13] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:25] lol [02:25] like the last fortune cookie i had, "Confusion say: top of ladder very nice place" [02:25] lol [02:25] haha ;) [02:25] I like sharing fortunes [02:25] but they take a lot of time [02:25] i swear fortune cookies would be so much more fun if the english was poor [02:25] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.115.233) joined ##slackware. [02:26] because I get into an endless reading loop [02:26] i mean it's an obvious generalization about the chinese and their english, it's the same with everyone else [02:26] whenever I read a first fortune cookie [02:26] but it's just funny to see a fortunate cookie like that [02:26] I agree [02:26] but I think there should be both, you know? [02:26] my chinese food places give me like 4 fortune cookies [02:26] both what, front and back? one good language the other bad ? [02:27] yes [02:27] good/bad [02:27] like [02:27] heh [02:27] fortune and fortune -f [02:27] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:27] the already existing fortune cookies could be rewritten in bad English [02:27] lol [02:27] but the good English ones should be kept [02:28] yea i guess so [02:28] -f switches [02:28] Atrophy (~wIRCer@c-98-207-76-56.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:28] it is just an idea [02:28] lol [02:28] I agree with you nonetheless [02:28] most do, difficult to admit though, thanks for being honest. [02:28] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:28] thrice's asshole is burning! [02:29] i need to read something funny right now [02:29] read Harry Potter [02:29] joking [02:29] haha [02:29] xkcd? [02:29] http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/03/another_dumbass_school_officia.php [02:29] hahaha [02:30] do you know xkcd? [02:31] yea [02:31] it's ok [02:32] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [02:32] did you read that link ? [02:32] was that in Canada or in the USA? [02:32] yes, I did read that [02:33] usa [02:33] haha i wrote something [02:33] are you from the USA, jeev? [02:33] "does that mean i can throw a pill at someone and get suspended" ? [02:33] how is being out of that school for 5 days punishment, anyways ? [02:33] yea tsccof [02:33] yea but that's a new DoS [02:33] throw a pill at your enemy and cut their chances of getting into a good school [02:33] speaking of DoS, what's that pidgin one ? [02:33] why is it always in the USA? [02:34] tsccof, because it's only the US that tries to keep kids from hearing the "F" word and all that other shit, porn and nudity, then it's economy runs on people being whores, promiscuous and stupid [02:34] and prohibition [02:34] do not get me wrong, I like many things in the USA, but there are many "This can't be happening" moments there. [02:35] ah, thanks [02:35] I understand it better now [02:35] yea there are too many [02:35] like the poorest people in the nation saying no to health care [02:35] or nobody getting insurance out of the picture [02:36] when you always pay with insurance, the market can't work [02:36] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:36] /rant off [02:38] Europe is a bit more like "This SHOULD not be happening." [02:38] haha yeah [02:38] where I live (in the US) random roadblocks aren't unusual (!) [02:38] or, i should say, where I moved to recently (culture shock) [02:39] why are the roadblocks there? [02:39] how else are police to fund themselves ? (rhetorical, no reason afaik) [02:39] tsccof, they pretend it's a free country, everywhere you go there's a road block on your life [02:40] some states are more free than others ( in certain respects ) [02:40] there are not many roadblocks in England [02:41] but some things about England are just [02:41] non-English [02:41] i guess you guys make up for it with surveillance [02:41] hmm [02:41] I partially agree [02:42] still, England is not what it used to be [02:42] The new Core i7-980X Extreme Edition (codenamed "Gulftown") is a six-core CPU that promises a whole new level of performance. [02:42] that would fit in a Beatles song [02:42] fuck [02:42] something new i have to buy soon [02:43] it is something I will get as soon as I buy a new processor [02:43] dood [02:43] it will be an i7 [02:43] i've had an i7-940 for a year now [02:43] since it came out [02:43] or whatever.. [02:43] tsccof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linton_Kwesi_Johnson :) [02:43] what the hell is that Ringo Starr song "the other side of liverpool", that song is absolute shit [02:43] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-234.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] Ringo Starr is bollocks [02:44] shit drummer [02:44] shit musician, shit composer [02:44] http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35798092/ns/us_news/ hahahahahahahahahahah [02:44] I hate people licking Beatles' arses all the bloody time [02:44] but he did good as the station master on Thomas the Tank Engine :) [02:44] they have some good songs, that is it [02:44] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:45] someone needs to kick those bastards in the balls [02:46] well, I hope everyone has at least some good aspects [02:46] if Ringo Starr did not have any, he would be the ultimate human fail [02:46] I hope he is a good father and family member [02:46] lmao [02:48] I am most likely pissed off from hearing all that "OH BEATLES" bollocks [02:48] even being so young when compared to the band's age [02:50] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:51] now, I need an advice [02:51] what programme would you lot use for HTML editing? [02:51] vim [02:51] kwrite too maybe [02:52] hey, i'm in that boat too (web design) [02:52] quanta ? [02:52] but I do not want a text editor [02:52] for that I would use mousepad or gedit [02:52] I mean any programme like Kompozer [02:52] html is edited with a text editor :) [02:52] tsccof: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/ [02:52] that is one method [02:53] but then you have to write all the code [02:53] and when I want to make a professional, great looking website in 4 days, raw editing does not fit my needs [02:54] weird, i'm in a similar situation (although the time crunch isn't as bad) [02:54] thanks trhodes, I am taking a good look at it [02:54] bluefish is another. ymmv tho as in all things [02:54] i've used bluefish in the past for plain html [02:54] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] heya Rat409, how's it going? [02:55] eclipse might even do web development [02:55] Quanta seems great [02:55] hey fire|bird good thanks,you?? trying to get a download finished but don't think i'll last that long. but gotta love wget -c :) [02:56] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.193.92) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:56] tsccof: that's what i'm going with for now [02:56] Rat409: doing great, thanks. wget is great, I really like aria2 for some things as well. [02:56] OOo does decent html [02:56] rsync ftw [02:56] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:57] fire|bird: yes,i have it also. [02:57] anybody knows where I can set kde4 to only show windows from the current virtual desktop on the panel? [02:57] isn't there another,nvi or something?for html i mean? [02:57] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [02:57] elvis [02:58] Rat409: Kompozer is a fork of that and so that hasn't seen development in ages. Nvu [02:58] slava_dp: Task Manager Settings [02:58] \o pprkut [02:58] hey fire|bird :) [02:58] fire|bird: ahh good to know [02:59] i used to use nvu way back in windows [02:59] (years ago) [03:00] pprkut, is that in the system settings? [03:02] pprkut, ohh, found it, it's the task plasmoid settings. the menu is not easily found :) [03:02] (BTW, i wasn't totally off about elvis :P it does rudimentary WYSIWYG html editing) [03:03] all of the sudden, Larry the Cow was in control, and he liked it [03:03] as long as it's not Larry the Cable Guy [03:03] slava_dp: indeed [03:04] Yeah, they are not changing it, hopefully [03:07] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:09] haha, speaking of wget, i recently downloaded a 3.2GB portion of the internet by accident :) [03:09] 2714 sites [03:10] o_o [03:10] wow [03:10] how is that 'by accident'? [03:11] It was accidently on purpose [03:11] aceofspades19 (~jordaneva@d75-154-228-99.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:11] haha, well, I had it run in the background, forgot about it and went to bed. Late the next day, I checked on the directory where the site should have been and "ls" took forever :P [03:13] dngr (~dngr@n11649134232.netvigator.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:13] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-22.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] lautriv (~root@f050080088.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:14] trhodes, do you have quanta's source code? [03:14] all links are broken there [03:14] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [03:15] let me see [03:15] heyda, i ran in trouble with dependencies on another distro, could someone give me a short explanation how slack handles packages and dependencies ? [03:15] lautriv, it does not hand dependencies [03:15] handle* [03:15] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [03:16] lautriv, packages are compressed in .tgz, .txz or .tjz [03:16] lautriv, you do a full install. that's all. for addon packages, there is slackbuilds.org, which specifies the deps for each package. [03:16] we use slackpkg for installing/removing/upgrading packages [03:16] although most packages are built from source by ourselves [03:16] lautriv, there is also a slackbuilds.org package manager, called sbopkg. [03:16] using SlackBuilds, as slava_dp said [03:17] tsccof, but what if i need a special package/app and it will use different versions of some parts ? [03:17] lautriv, for instance? [03:17] lautriv, there is no problem about that [03:17] you are free to break your system in whatever way you wish, the package management tools will not complain. [03:17] what real hackers use? slackware or backtrack? [03:17] Azeotrope, the brain [03:17] epic win [03:17] tsccof: it's from kdewebdev [03:18] steerpike (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [03:18] throdes, are you using 3.5.8? [03:18] tsccof, my main reason is : i'm fine with debian but they did some ugly hacks on openldap, can't solve it because versioning also they excluded openssl because Licencing problems and thus i have to replace ldap-servers with another distro. [03:19] lautriv, in slackware, you can use any version of anything as long as the source code is available [03:20] so if you want to downgrade something, you make a new package of an older version [03:20] tsccof: of quanta? 3.5.10 from a 12.2 chroot :/ [03:20] remove the one you have and install the older one [03:20] since slackpkg will not remove dependencies, you can switch individual packages normally without a single problem [03:20] tsccof, is there also a chance to install it remotely (PXE/ssh combo or suchlike) ? [03:20] yes. [03:21] Necos (1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:21] (i didn't want to upgrade quanta partially through a project) [03:21] lautriv, see usb_and_pxe_installers in the slackware tree. [03:21] trhodes, got it [03:21] lautriv, also, see http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/remote-installation-of-slackware-using-ssh/\ [03:22] remove the trailing \ .... [03:22] slava_dp, i'd guess slackware.org ? (sorry for bad Q but the masses of needles distros make this a timewasting job) [03:22] I need to set up a web development workspace here, and I am going for Slackware [03:22] ftp.slackware.com [03:22] other distributions are fine in most cases, but Slackware is the most stable [03:22] Action: lautriv will give it a try........thx dudes [03:23] and it has this control issue over Debian [03:23] oh, that reminds me, i just did the installpkg part of a slackware install via NFS [03:23] lautriv, ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [03:23] i haven't done it yet, but I may just use the instaler's initrd to finish the setup job [03:23] *installer [03:24] tsccof, i see only a handful really good distros out there, slack seems to be one of them but anyway debian too (for many reasons) [03:24] Debian is great, no matter what people say [03:24] is it safe to install legacy GRUB stage 1 on an extended partition with a filesystem (ext3) already on it? [03:24] tsccof: i used to use debian [03:25] but I really learned linux (well, i'm still learning) with slack [03:25] slackware helps you be self sufficient :) [03:25] exactly! [03:25] and I get the feeling once it is set up [03:25] it will never break [03:26] if you do not adventure a lot without knowing what you are doing [03:26] and it doesn't try to hide debug things from you (like startup) [03:26] exactly [03:26] debian's startup is polished [03:26] you can always change that [03:26] but the way it comes out of the box makes a difference for us [03:26] i came not to troll or harm anyone but what other distro supports such a broad range of arch's ? [03:26] Fedora [03:26] Gentoo [03:26] yes, and the way it come out of the box speaks about the aims of each project, IMO [03:27] btw ftp.slackware.com -> timeout ? [03:27] tsccof, show me a gentoo for i.e. hppa :-) [03:27] tsccof, you did not ask that [03:27] slackware.osuosl.org [03:28] "what other distro supports such a broad range of arch's ?" [03:28] lautriv: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-hppa.xml [03:28] and there you are [03:28] thanks surrounder [03:28] np [03:30] one thing I like about slack is that Pat makes for a nice software crap filter (for lack of better terminology :P) [03:30] hehe [03:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:31] I run Salix here [03:31] steerpike (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/steerpike) left ##slackware. [03:32] I think most people would say "That is not even Slackware" [03:32] but it is [03:32] hmm neat, i never heard of it [03:32] same here [03:32] http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home [03:32] yup, lookin at it already :) [03:32] salix made me think of willow / aspirin [03:33] it comes with slapt-get [03:33] takes the headache out of linux :) [03:33] but I do not use it [03:33] never [03:33] nice [03:33] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [03:33] so I avoid these "non-slack" features [03:33] looks nice indeed [03:33] but it does not have many, fortunately [03:33] and the ISO is 540MB [03:34] it comes with a good XFCE desktop and some useful applications without exaggerations [03:34] weirdly enough, vectorlinux (yuck) changed my attitude about slackware as a debian user [03:35] so I set it to run level 3 instead of 4(I hate that "Username: " thing), compile the latest kernel and I am good to go [03:35] now I can't stand to use vectorlinux, but i rather liked how well it worked on old hardware [03:35] trhodes, what do you think of vectorlinux? [03:35] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-234.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:36] well, it's more complicated than plain slack and has commercial aspirations [03:36] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.99) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:36] what I do not like about Vector Linux [03:36] is "Vector This" "Vector That" [03:36] "Vector Deluxe" [03:36] "Vector Lite" [03:36] OH FER FUCK SAKE [03:36] tukaani pkgtools is an interesting variation [03:37] haha yeah, the commercial aspects of it bother me [03:37] oh, it (at least used to) come with stupid firewall rules [03:37] *comes [03:38] which is very annoying when you don't expect it [03:38] what about arch linux? [03:38] I am wondering about trying it [03:38] out of curiosity [03:38] nice distro, used it for a couple of years [03:39] eh, i don't know much about it, but I hear docs aren't always included by package maintainers, and the configuration attempts to be centrali[sz]ed afaik [03:39] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) joined ##slackware. [03:39] good or bad is subjective there [03:39] indeed [03:40] ok, a weird thing.......i found the pxelinux.cfg.default, it points to a kernel in another dir (found) but nowhere the neccesary initrd ? [03:40] downloads finally done. night guys. [03:40] Rat409 (rat@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [03:40] the packagemanager rocks and if you like bleeding edge software arch is great fun [03:40] g'nite [03:40] new users tend to be drawn toward distros with package managers [03:40] but I got a little tired of living on the bleeding edge, just give me stability [03:40] I left Fedora because Fedora 12 was shit [03:41] I still run it on my netbook, though [03:41] learning to be your own package maintainer teaches you lots [03:41] tsccof, i run slackware-current on my netbook 8-) [03:41] win 7 on my netbook [03:41] trhodes, but wasting more time for the OS [03:41] my goal is to tripleboot it with Haiku and Slack though [03:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:42] lautriv: it needn't be: http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/automating-destdir.html [03:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:43] any Windows users here? [03:43] besides surrounder ? :P [03:43] hehe [03:43] Action: trhodes is jealous of BSD's mount_nullfs [03:43] yeap [03:43] do they have that? [03:43] o_o [03:44] Action: tsccof moving to BSD [03:44] joke [03:44] trhodes: and zfs [03:44] and dtrace [03:44] *BSD++ [03:44] systemtap does more than dtrace [03:44] it's just floundering atm [03:44] and btrfs will compete with zfs (it's coming along nicely) [03:44] trhodes, how can I compile kdewebdev if I am not running KDE? [03:44] kinda NIH though [03:44] "will" [03:45] trhodes: all linux only software under a crappy license, imho :P [03:45] yeah, i see you're not on plain slack :/ [03:45] tscof: as long as you installed the qt libs and kdebase, you should be able to compile [03:45] what about dbus and stuff ? [03:46] trhodes, updated wiki and slackbuild [03:46] and other potential silly kde wants ? [03:46] hey cool [03:46] #dive [03:46] err, @ [03:46] :) [03:47] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [03:47] surr hold distance, i won't get infected :-) [03:47] dive: nice, i like it (and will be using it) [03:47] ok :) [03:48] Action: tsccof will give Kompozer a try [03:48] now to get x86_64 working ... [03:49] ARCH=x86_64 ftw [03:49] Action: pipes has been pretty pleased with it [03:50] you can use HTML5 instead of flash player, right? [03:50] well we talking about this the other day and apparently make'ing the kernel on x86_64 symlinks into x86 as well [03:50] hmm [03:50] so maybe the build doesn't need changing..? [03:50] anyway I will see [03:50] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:51] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org [03:51] trhodes, your link is talking about "put all things somewhere and handle it central" is this your way ? [03:52] i'm still trying different stuff out, but slacktrack + qemu is something I like so far [03:53] that also accomplishes some of the testing at the same time [03:53] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [03:53] ie, it builds on a clean slack install [03:53] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) joined ##slackware. [03:53] I downloaded kompozer and it is "as is", how can I 'declare' it so that when I run 'kompozer' it will open the programme? [03:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:53] instead of '/usr/lib/kompozer/kompozer' [03:54] or '/opt/kompozer/kompozer', etc [03:54] lautriv (root@f050080088.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [03:54] you could make a symlink from somewhere in $PATH [03:54] strange that you would need to however [03:54] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-223-108.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:54] is there a way to create a host, that would have all tcp ports open (for testing purposes, to see what outgoing ports are cut off) or which channel would be the right place to ask this? [03:55] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [03:55] is there any software to clean up mbox files that are not quite in the proper format? [03:56] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-22.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:57] trhodes, I made a launcher that runs '/usr/local/include/kompozer/kompozer' [03:59] nice :) [04:00] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:02] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] Kilroy_Higgins (KilroyHigg@dyn-128-54-186-138.ucsd.edu) joined ##slackware. [04:05] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Kilroy (KilroyHigg@2002:8036:bdf9:a:c042:88af:91cc:26d2) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [04:07] zux1wrk, for port in {1..65535}; do nc -l -p $port &; done [04:07] zux1wrk, all opened [04:08] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.198.99) joined ##slackware. [04:08] slava_dp, and what will it do to some ports that are already open [04:08] ? [04:09] zux1wrk, it will fail to open them. [04:09] oh [04:09] ok [04:09] but run it as root, because user can only open 1024+ port range. [04:09] of course [04:10] but there will be nothing running on those ports, right? [04:10] or will there? [04:11] there will be a copy of nc on each port, which will exit after the connection teardown. [04:11] a total of 65535 nc's. [04:11] minus your open ports :) [04:14] UPS about to die... seeya later :) [04:14] at least the lightning was good [04:14] Kilroy_Higgins (KilroyHigg@dyn-128-54-186-138.ucsd.edu) left irc: Quit: Ciao. [04:14] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:18] trhodes, are you leaving? [04:18] soon [04:19] power's gonna be out for a while [04:19] X is still going tho [04:19] ah [04:19] my 'puter stays on longer with the monitor off [04:19] hmm [04:19] is it a laptop? [04:19] but the monitor lets me see the radar :) [04:19] nope, desktop [04:21] the radar? [04:22] I have a 50 gig root partition, and another parition around 900 gig -- yet it only has 3 gigs of freespace. I want to resize the root and put around 20 gigs into the big partition. I'm sure this will take a while, but is it a bad idea without adequate space? [04:23] byteframe, can you put up with the chance of losing all your data? [04:23] slava_dp, and another question, have you done it in real life? i mean, can it eat up all my RAM? [04:23] if no, you gotta have a backup first. [04:24] slava_dp, I'm backing it up all up now to old hardrives. Hopefully I won't have to use them to restore. Is it a problematic. [04:24] ? [04:24] zux1wrk, i am sure nc has tiny memory footprint, but you might want to try with a few dozen ports first. and no, I just made this up in response to your question :) [04:24] ok [04:25] slava_dp: radar imagery for current weather [04:25] i'll probably only want to test the standart ports, not every possible :) [04:25] stupid nfs likes to hang on power events like this [04:25] Stx_ (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [04:26] byteframe, then get a parted magic livecd or a system rescue cd and go on with the resize >:-) [04:27] If it isn't fool proof, I might not be inclined to go forward. I'll have to mull it over. [04:27] lovely foggy day over here [04:27] gparted is pretty good and straightforward, you're unlikely to have problems with it. [04:28] morn [04:28] hey [04:29] hey Zordrak [04:29] Action: Zordrak advises trolls to stay out of his way this morning. anger high, patience low. Prepared to reach through screen into tubes and rip necks apart. [04:29] Action: Azeotrope hides [04:30] Action: Zordrak immediately disappears to make coffee [04:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-142-31-210.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:30] Action: slava_dp pours coffee into Zordrak [04:30] Action: alisonken1noc goes back to syncing slackware repository [04:30] Action: Azeotrope buys cyanide [04:30] Action: slava_dp has already synced his mirror [04:30] Zordrak, working on an MS machine again? [04:30] Action: tsccof is compiling Mplayer [04:31] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 620 seconds [04:31] Action: slava_dp configures a pxe server for slackware installation [04:31] Action: tsccof farts [04:31] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-142-176-220.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Action: tsccof not really [04:32] Action: zux1wrk farts for real [04:32] Action: alisonken1noc goes back to updating internal wiki on cable tester [04:32] Action: slava_dp doesn't like the smell [04:32] Action: tsccof likes the smell [04:32] eww [04:32] Action: alisonken1noc glad of extreme a/c in the office [04:32] Action: zux1wrk likes his own smell, [04:33] Action: tsccof making some tea [04:33] it's strange, that other farts stink, but mine is almost enjoyable [04:33] Everyone loves their own brand. [04:33] personally, I prefer the wife's over mine [04:34] hahaha [04:34] such a great, lovely morning.. [04:34] i sometimes think about what i have eaten before, and i can almost enjoy it again [04:35] alisonken1noc: mostly just sick of the commute [04:35] ah [04:35] since I go against traffic, I almost enjoy the hour commute [04:35] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:35] and at night, there's hardly anyone around anyway [04:35] there is no period of sanity.. as soon as the people who know how to drive are off the road in massive numbers the few that remain barely know where the steering wheel is [04:36] how do you mount .img files? [04:36] where is the steering wheel? [04:36] Azeotrope, mostly just like the iso [04:36] Zordrak, isn't that pretty much true of anyone who got a license in the last 10 years? [04:37] zux1wrk: -t 9660? [04:37] -t iso9660 ? [04:37] i usually don't use, it detects ir automatically [04:37] loop mount? [04:37] it [04:37] yes [04:37] -o ro,loop [04:37] mount -o loop ./.iso /mnt/iso [04:37] mount -o loop ...img bla bla [04:38] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:38] Azeotrope, i guess your image is not exactly standart, if mount can't detect the filesystem [04:38] kethry (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [04:38] alisonken1noc: the problem isnt them.. its the mums ruterning from taking their kids to school in a 30T tank and the old people venturing out for another day counting down the path to death [04:38] i have never seen mount not detecting a healthy filesystem, not on a block device, not on a image [04:39] sberthelot (~sberthelo@2002:52ea:963c:1::11) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Zordrak, for a second I thought you were going to say something about those females that wait until they're on the freeway to put on their makeup and the guys shaving [04:40] of interesting note, there was an ElReg note that one female wrecked her car while trying to shave her crotch on the freeway [04:40] alisonken1noc, do they really do that on the freeway? [04:40] alisonken1noc: i agree theyre fscking dangerous.. but they stay out of my way [04:40] slava_dp, yes [04:41] hello everyone [04:41] alisonken1noc: im more concerned with the scum that seem to forget that the outer lane(s) are for overtaking.. when you are done you must pull back in. [04:41] In this country it is illegal to pass on the left hand side [04:41] sorry to insist everyday with that but -current emacs seems to be linked with libungif which was removed [04:41] I think a fresh install of -current will not have emacs work [04:42] so you can be driving down a four lane motorway.. and if theres some twat doing 40mph in the outside lane it is illegal for anyone to pass him [04:42] sberthelot, mail Pat and tell [04:42] or switch to vim :D [04:42] slava_dp: ok I thought some ops were faster here to report [04:42] Many people say the saw is at fault but its not.. the rules are perfect.. just no fucker actually sticks to them!! [04:42] slava_dp: I knew someone would tell me that (old vim/emacs war ;) ) [04:42] BrokenCog (~d.jordan@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [04:42] slava_dp: should I send to pat@slackware.com ? [04:42] s/saw/law/ [04:42] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:43] sberthelot: volkerdi@ [04:43] sberthelot, volkerdi@ [04:43] ok thanks [04:43] Zordrak, at least you have good roads. [04:44] are you kidding me?!?! [04:44] Zordrak, where are you from? [04:44] Zordrak, the roads here after this winter have a pit a meter. [04:44] slava_dp: south yorkshire has some of the worst quality roads in the rountry [04:44] slava_dp: the cold has done the same here to make them even worse [04:45] tsccof: central england [04:45] Zordrak, sweet, I am from Newcastle upon Tyne [04:45] slava_dp: where from?roads can't more bad than here [04:45] can't be [04:45] Azeotrope, ukraine [04:45] neighbour dude [04:46] romania that is [04:46] and in any cose id rather have a friggin dirt track with no-one on it than pure tarmac restricted to 20mph by some old cunt in a seicento [04:46] tsccof: commiserations [04:46] <_RadioHead> arrg i need 32 bit compatibility libraries [04:46] _RadioHead: then go get them [04:47] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:47] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: on -current i don`t see where thios libs are [04:47] _RadioHead: googlre [04:48] <_RadioHead> :) well that was my next thought since i did not find on -current [04:49] trhodes, when you use the script (if you are using it to build a kernel on a different box) can you check that /lib/modules/build and /lib/modules/source are pointing at the correct directory for that box, rather than the created kernel source? I can't check right now, but I'll be looking at it later sometime. [04:49] BrokenCog (~d.jordan@125.213.207.141) left irc: [04:49] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [04:49] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::aaaa) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:50] _RadioHead: theyre not part of slack they are provided by bob as a community extra [04:51] What other OSes are there? Besides unix-like? Windows and? [04:51] don't say symbian [04:51] Azeotrope: google [04:52] BrokenCog (~d.jordan@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [04:52] (i do not mean OS.. i mean in order to answer your question you should) [04:52] http://s0.2mdn.net/viewad/1579434/1-TCS_IMU_SF-120809WebinarAd.jpg [04:52] there are many. [04:52] epic ad fail [04:52] dude [04:52] Google Chrome OS!!!!! [04:53] jrodger (~jrodger@203-12-164-164.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:54] I'm wondering what os CIA and NSA use [04:54] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:56] same as any other company [04:56] windows on the front *nix in the back [04:57] why do you tihnk ? [04:58] theyre not magical. they just have a lot of resources and a government remit [05:00] why not just one all around, I mean. Considering how large they are, i'm sure they'd get good deals on licenses for server/clients by the tons. [05:01] ROFL. Just seen a BBC News report on "Jihad Jane" and to go with the line "the authorities began tracking her in 2008" they have an image of fingers typing on an old mac keyboard [05:02] I have to see that [05:02] BrokenCog: because there is no possibility that the people who actually know what theyre doing will be prepared to run NSA and CIA servers on windows server and there is no possibility that they are prepared to forec all administrative staff to use anything but windows [05:03] hmm perhaps its a newer one (not au fait with current apple periphs.. but nonetheless apple) [05:04] I found the image [05:04] lmao [05:04] the video [05:05] and those fingers are old! [05:05] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) joined ##slackware. [05:05] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [05:05] Zordak: well, that's the standard corp. issue i agree. just seems if they do have that much money MS would be happy to setup there servers for them to go smooth. [05:06] is there any way to do advanced partitioning on Windows? [05:06] tsccof: are you seriously asking that in here? [05:07] yes, I am [05:07] tsccof: then gtfo [05:07] make me do that :) [05:07] I am waiting [05:07] BrokenCog: they might have AD servers for handling the windows boxes.. but the serious number crunchers and echelon stuff will not be on win [05:09] tsccof: have you tried rmdir c:\ /s /q ? [05:09] thinking that might solve your biggest problem quietly. [05:10] BrokenCog: do not paste anything that would be destructive if copied and pasted (not my rule) [05:10] have you tried dying? [05:10] thank you [05:10] (i put the ? in for that ... ). [05:10] but, seriously what are you trying to do ? [05:10] I just wanted to know [05:11] if there is any way for a person to set a specific folder [05:11] into another partition [05:11] Zordrak: that makes sense of the 'worker machines' not being Winservers, but one never knows about how logic flows when money starts to make people look at things. [05:11] tsccof: #windows [05:11] as we do for /home = sda1, etc [05:12] BrokenCog: nsa and cia try to hire the best. the best of the best. they wont do that with a completely windows centric network [05:12] "NSA Server Admin required: skills needed, MCSE" (!) [05:12] BrokenCog, do you know if there is a way to do that? [05:13] Z: i understand about the notion of the best, but they are bueracracies domninated by money flow in the end. [05:13] tsccof: yes, the Googlizer will teach you. "windows create partition in folder" [05:13] BrokenCog: if they were a private corp maybe.. but they are a government corp with a remit and a huge budget [05:14] hmm .. okay. i see your point. it'd be interesting to find out what kind of systems do run their various hard core spy type systems. [05:15] i think it will very much be a case of right solution for the right job [05:15] each dept having its own spcialisms and specialists [05:16] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:16] how can I view ip addresses of smb computers from linux? in smbtree I only see the names. [05:16] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Zordrak: i'll have to look for jobs: "Gov. Position, *nix experience" ... [05:17] heh [05:18] might be interesting working in the belly of the beast for a time. [05:18] slava_dp: not sure.. guessing its not expected because win domains dont necessarily run of dns but wins instead [05:20] Zordrak, i don't care how they run, I just want to know ip addresses to map the network :) [05:21] slava_dp: was offered as an explanation for why there seems te be no option for it [05:21] ok :) [05:23] Mel-nix (~melvin@117.255.76.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:25] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.8) joined ##slackware. [05:26] The-Croupier (~ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:26] greetings [05:28] morning [05:30] phrag: how are u bro? [05:31] Woo.. EU Parliament rejects ACTA in a 633 to 13 vote! [05:32] root (~root@118-92-156-224.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Nick change: root -> Guest68298 [05:34] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:35] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) joined ##slackware. [05:36] where's slackboy? [05:36] ? [05:36] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [05:36] Zordrak, what's ACTA? [05:36] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [05:36] my wpa_supplicant does not seem towant to start, any ideas? [05:37] zux1wrk: google. high profile recent news. [05:37] jrodger, why don't you use wicd? [05:37] where to look I mean......wpa_cli says it cannot connect to it [05:37] wicd? [05:37] yes [05:37] in /extra/ [05:37] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) left irc: Client Quit [05:38] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) joined ##slackware. [05:38] i'm wondering, slackboy usually kicks these ~root@ guys [05:38] Zordrak, that's good news [05:38] zuxlwrk:how do I do that? wicdnot installed [05:38] hells yeah :) [05:38] install it [05:39] it's in extra on the install cd's [05:39] which cd? [05:39] zux1wrk, r u complaining that I'm locally logged in as root? [05:39] i'm not complaining [05:39] Phew [05:39] i don't care really [05:40] Sorry all... I'm an IRC 'newbie' [05:40] Guest68298: log in with your normal account :) [05:40] fair point though.. slackboy should have kicked you to the kerb by now [05:40] i'm just wondering, i thought slackboy has been automatically kicking these guys... [05:40] zuxlwrk: 'sorright, slackpkg'd it [05:41] Guest68298: http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/27/never-irc-as-root/ [05:41] Yes but he was no op until after Guest68298 appeared [05:41] Forgive my naivety here... If I log in locally as a non-root user on my own hardware, do I 'assume' a nickname on #slackware of that name? [05:41] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:41] /exe [05:42] Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages.???? [05:42] Guest68298, that would probably be your default nickname [05:42] Guest68298: your IRC client will take care of that if you configure it right [05:42] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.17) left irc: Client Quit [05:42] jrodger, /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [05:42] Sorry to annoy y'all then... Never bothered with IRC until now... Guess I better go lookup the config docs [05:43] Guest68298, better login as normal user, not root [05:43] Back soon then ppl... [05:43] zuxlwrk: thanks, I always forget that bit....a problem with being nursed by the other distros [05:43] Guest68298 (~root@118-92-156-224.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:43] that's not annoying, that's just wrong [05:44] well shit... ive been streetviewed [05:44] Bueno, another issue resolved...woohoo! self reliance is nigh! Slackware Rocks! [05:44] (well.. my house, not me) [05:45] I was stuck behind one of their streetview vans on a small country lane once - total pain which I couldn't get past [05:46] trev_vb (~trev_vb@118-92-156-224.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Nick change: off_tr4mp0 -> Gr1nch [05:47] Gr1nch (gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left ##slackware. [05:47] cant tell if i was in... looks like i was at work while the missus was cleaning.. cant see my car and all the windows are open : [05:47] Once again, I apologise for 'guest' login a minute ago... [05:47] :) [05:47] Apologise to your computer, not us :) [05:48] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:48] jrodger, got that wifi working? [05:49] yes mate, it worked a treat.....gotta love this distro! [05:49] thanks very much, [05:49] wicd is a great thing [05:50] it certainly is [05:50] if i'll can use to connect to my 3G network in the 2.0 release [05:50] just got the book today, I should be a little better soon [05:51] then all my laptop networking needs will bee fulfilled [05:51] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:51] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [05:51] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [05:51] networking heaven! \o/ [05:51] anyone got a 64bit linux guest on a 32bit host working? [05:51] nop [05:51] haven't tried [05:51] qemu segfaulted :/ [05:51] 3G you mean radio wan? [05:52] and vbox failed to build ... trying again [05:52] jrodger, broadband network [05:52] yup, what device you using? [05:52] i'm not sure if my english is correct here, you now the network cell phones operate on [05:52] jrodger, i'm on a huawei [05:52] zux1wrk, that is correct [05:53] that name sounds interesting if you now russian [05:53] yes, pcmcia? we use them for work on windoze [05:53] jrodger, no, usb [05:53] I use a usb dongle when I'm on call [05:53] works great [05:53] I got one of those, but even tried configuring it yet [05:53] jrodger, i right now use wvdial [05:54] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [05:54] and i'm waiting for wicd to support it :) [05:54] wvdial? is that a slackbuildpackage? [05:54] yes [05:54] also you need wvstreams [05:54] nice.....Imight gice it a look [05:55] i can show you my config file if you want [05:55] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:56] http://pastebin.com/1JbkYpxP [05:56] this is how i use it [05:56] i have disabled the pin [05:56] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [05:57] you will need to change at least "korp.lmt.lv" to something else [05:57] I'll have a look, I don't have a sim at the moment (long story) ...where you from? [05:58] .lv [05:59] that's latvia [05:59] eastern europe [06:00] ah, did you get your stuff from the store yet? [06:00] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:00] the slackware store? [06:00] nop, not yet [06:01] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] thanks for reminding, i have not received any notice, gonna write another mail to them.. [06:01] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:01] heard from them? I sent them an email about mine and they got back to me next day (with time diff. was acceptable). [06:01] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [06:02] brainvision: hi man are you there [06:02] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:02] zuxlwrk: theresa@store.slackware.com, this the lady that got back to me very helpful [06:02] yes, that answered me too [06:02] hmm she [06:03] not that [06:03] lol [06:04] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:05] zuxlwrk: still cold in europe? my brother is ion the UK [06:05] *in [06:06] uk is probably warmer [06:06] but we are having a great winter [06:06] lot's of snow still [06:06] sun is shining here in .nl \o/ [06:06] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [06:06] uk started warming last week [06:06] it is snowing a lot in spain [06:06] especially eastern Spain [06:06] last weekend one night the temperature droped to more than -29 C again [06:07] hmmm, starting to get cooler down here....is good because wehada shitty sticky summer [06:07] tsccof: eek! I might go to Madrid this month [06:07] had enough of the snow really :P [06:07] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:07] guys, I'm having some issues starting webex applet in firefox [06:07] it's now ~1 degree by celsius [06:07] 3.3 C here [06:08] Only got up to 27C here today.... Startin to cool off [06:08] while googling, someone suggested installing compat-libstdc++-33 [06:09] is there any package like this for slack? [06:09] here it's a nice 20.3 deg C,quite cool,nice [06:09] trev_vb, where you from? [06:09] jrodger: wuha nice! where are you located ? [06:09] Sydney [06:09] .NZ here [06:10] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Quit: sleep [06:10] We don't get much below about 6 C here [06:12] i like winter [06:12] much more than hot summer [06:12] I love winter [06:12] and autumn [06:12] spring is so s [06:12] depends, I like all the seasons [06:12] so* [06:12] summer is just too hot [06:12] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:12] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-psijxrfapgfnifjf) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [06:13] becouse you can always wear some more clothes to get warmer, but in summer, you just can't take off any more when you're naked [06:13] normally summer isn't too hot, it's just the humidity that kills you, sucks you dry of energy [06:13] i dont care what season it is as long as my aircon keeps working [06:13] jrodger depends where you are [06:13] tsccof, you wouldn't like the autumn here.... [06:13] zux1wrk, how is it there? [06:13] zuxlwrk: ai't that the truth! [06:13] it rains alot, everythin is wet [06:14] zux1wrk I love it [06:14] rain is awesome [06:14] zux1wrk where I live, it rains for weeks [06:14] unstoppable [06:14] well, these are lowlands [06:14] keeps morons indoors making it freer for the rlest of us [06:14] lol [06:14] lol [06:14] the rain just stays here.... [06:14] spring also sucks alot [06:14] zux1wrk spring is too hot sometimes [06:14] when the snow melts... [06:14] tsccof: up near my dad'splace he gets 45C and near no humidity, I can handle that, here it can get to 25C and 90% humidity and you just can't get comfortable [06:14] I love the cold and wet [06:15] we get the usual every year floods [06:15] :/ [06:15] at my family country house [06:15] the house stays on an island every spring [06:15] anyone use logitech trackman ? [06:15] nop [06:16] Action: Zordrak is frothing at the mouth... one more day until bahrain practice 1 [06:16] F1 ? [06:16] phrag: i will if you buy me one... :) [06:16] surrounder: yupyup [06:16] =P [06:18] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [06:21] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.7) joined ##slackware. [06:22] pireau (1000@208.92.18.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:23] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:25] BrokenCog (~d.jordan@125.213.207.141) left irc: [06:29] raph0x88_ (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [06:32] trev_vb (~trev_vb@118-92-156-224.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:33] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:33] agentc0re: why urandom not random? (dnssec) [06:35] how do I update my slackware to -current? [06:35] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [06:35] tsccof: change /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to point to a -current location [06:35] hcfd (~fed@host81-157-105-68.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:36] tsccof: READ CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT for -current then: slackpkg update; slackpkg uprade-all; slackpkg install-new [06:36] as simple as that? [06:36] s/uprade/upgrade/ [06:36] yes [06:36] thank you very much [06:36] I heard about rsync but that did not seem that simple for [06:36] me [06:37] if you fail to fully read changes and hints and end up with a problem, expect little help or sympathy [06:37] that direct and smooth [06:37] okay [06:37] thanks [06:37] also.. it should be restated that -current is only for those who "know what they're doing" [06:37] its not supported for anything other than development use [06:38] development and testing [06:38] so that could be called "unstable" [06:38] or "testing" [06:38] ? [06:38] either one - take your pick [06:38] if you have a problem its not for us to help, it is for you to determine the cause and if it is a -current problem rather that a local problem for you, provide a fix back to slackware devs for resolution [06:38] the only difference is slackware "unstable" is still better than other distro's "stable" :) [06:38] alisonken1noc: ++ [06:38] ah okay [06:39] I agree with that [06:40] You Have Been Warned. Your Mileage May Vary, Other Appropriate Acronym Based Warnings (tm) [06:40] diegobestlinux (~diegobest@201.91.215.132) joined ##slackware. [06:43] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [06:43] alisonken1noc, i don't fully agree with that, it's not always better, sometimes even slackware-current can be unusable... [06:44] that is just how it's supposed to be [06:44] zux1wrk: some distro's stable can still be unusable [06:44] to the extent the word unusable ever applies to -current [06:44] yeah, i know that [06:44] well [06:45] sometimes [06:45] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:45] i'd say the recent problems for the xfce users [06:45] ok. they where fixed in a couple days [06:46] and most of the time yes, current is stable enough for my laptop [06:46] "better" is also an extremely subjective term [06:46] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Good morning slackers. [06:46] I use a netbook and still find it faster than the windoze on a normal notebook [06:46] anywone knows of a libstdc++5 compat lib for slack? [06:47] i have this directory structure and in each folder *might* be 2 .png files with the same content but a different name. how can i delete the surplus? [06:47] Azeotrope, some hash program? [06:48] md5? how? [06:49] hmmm - slackware64-current has compiz as an installed package? (that's what slackpkg shows) [06:49] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:50] bash: slackpkg: command not found [06:50] how bad is that? [06:50] are you logged in as root? [06:50] yes [06:50] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.7) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:50] ls /usr/sbin/slackpkg [06:51] ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/slackpkg: No such file or directory [06:51] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [06:51] grep slackpkg /var/log/packages/* [06:51] raph0x88_ (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:51] which version of slackware do you have? [06:51] 13 [06:51] but it is not Slackware itself [06:51] it is Salix [06:51] this bloody thing comes with slapt-get [06:51] well - there's a problem - we don't support salix [06:52] yeah [06:52] I will install proper Slackware here [06:52] BP{k}, compiz added as a new package for -current? [06:52] alienBOB: ^^^ [06:55] jrodger (~jrodger@203-12-164-164.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:55] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:55] tsccof (~martin@201-35-180-97.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: I will be back [06:56] compiz has been in Slackware for a few versions now. [06:56] I'm beginning to notice :) [06:57] I think it was added in 12.0 [06:58] there it is - added to 12.0 (current) on 15 Feb 02007 [06:58] LTL2h (~LTL2h_@AToulouse-258-1-60-100.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.8) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [07:03] so you are new to slackware alisonken1noc ? [07:04] kruger (~kruger@a85-139-203-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:04] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.198.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:04] raph0x88_ (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [07:04] for something he obviously doesn't use, it's easily missed. [07:04] Gr1nch (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [07:06] hello ppl, i make the default installation of slack13 without kde packages, and I add the unsupported packages from kde3.5.10. don't start kde3 no kdestart command or file [07:06] any help pls [07:06] lauNd (~thiago@189.8.84.20) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Gr1nch (gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left ##slackware. [07:07] kruger: run "source /etc/profile" [07:07] and try [07:08] XGizzmo: nop [07:08] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:09] Rosonero: are you new to the channel? [07:09] Rossonero, ^^^ [07:10] no it's me [07:10] F1SHER [07:10] goarilla (~goarilla@91.180.49.203) joined ##slackware. [07:10] :P [07:10] kruger: paste the output of "ls /var/log/packages/ |grep kde" on a pastebin. [07:11] pastebin is the most useful thing after the wheel and hot water [07:12] just before lubes [07:13] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.28.207.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:14] XG right now i am in console mode, is any way to pastebin ? [07:15] XGizzmo: [07:16] Axius (~fd@92.82.80.141) joined ##slackware. [07:17] what did it output for the kdebase package name? [07:19] kdebase3-3.5.10-i486-3 [07:20] FSCKING GAD DAMN SALES STAFF SCUM! [07:20] how is it everyone else manages to stay infection free ... except the gad damn sales people [07:20] you installed the wrong packages [07:20] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] XGizzmo: what is the right on? [07:21] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [07:21] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/packages/i486/ [07:21] if you are running 32bit [07:21] yes [07:21] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:22] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:22] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:22] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [07:22] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:24] hang on kruger do the othere kde packages end in opt3 or opt4 [07:24] ? [07:26] anyways you need to install all the packages from that link not just the kde ones. [07:27] since the source I donwload all packages are diferent of this one, o am right now removing all kde packages and i will install all again. :o even kdegames and stuff like that? [07:28] you can skip games and some of the other kde packages but you have to install pcal and arts and qt and all the other non kde files at that link. [07:29] ah ok [07:30] I am afk, I have to go to work. [07:30] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::568b) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-160-165.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:31] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-160-165.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [07:31] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:31] k. thanks [07:33] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [07:35] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:37] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:37] working. [07:37] kruger (~kruger@a85-139-203-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:38] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:48] j0z (~j0z@189.114.183.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:48] j0z (~j0z@189.114.183.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:48] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [07:48] hm, where is the console version of wine's tutorial [07:48] or README because there's this game i wnana install [07:51] stuart__: links/lynx to google, search for wine's tutorial? [07:51] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:52] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [07:53] hm, i can't seem to mount /dev/cdrom? [07:53] what does it say? [07:53] it says /dev/sr0 unknown device [07:54] then maybe your cdrom is another dev [07:54] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] how do i check [07:55] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:55] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:55] maybe google that. I'd just end up trying to mount every hdX/sdX that wasn't my hdd [07:55] stuart__: start with lsscsi [07:56] Zordrak, it says /dev/sr0 is my cd/dvd, do i put that in fstab? [07:56] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:56] stuart__: not if you cant mount it manually [07:57] Zordrak, mount: /dev/sr0 unknown device [07:57] disk in? [07:57] yup [07:57] hm [07:57] lemme try changing disks [07:58] as root? [07:59] yup [07:59] ls -l /dev/sr0 [08:00] also: dmesg | grep scsi [08:02] also.. definitely a cd not dvd inserted? [08:02] lsscsi is your friend [08:03] Nick change: raph0x88_ -> raph0x88 [08:04] Zordrak, gee.. i thought it was a problem with linux, but it turns out all 4 CD's of baldur's gate can't read. weird? [08:04] i inserted another cd and it's fine [08:04] any chance they are dvds? [08:05] (in which case specifying -t udf might help [08:05] ananke: y use nb, right [08:05] Zordrak, nope, i bought these games way before dvd drives were out [08:06] s/y// s/t/t?/ [08:06] stuart__: meh.. who knows then [08:06] but i 'wine'd the installation ,and now it needs the 2nd cd, but i cant unmount to eject cd.. because it says cd in use [08:06] how do i unmount now when the intsaller needs the 2nd cd? [08:06] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:07] stuart__: difficult to say depending on exactly whats using it [08:07] Zordrak, the game installer is using it [08:08] options -l and -f are worth trying [08:08] Zordrak, 3 cd's, right now it wants me to insert 2nd cd, which i can't cos i can't eject :( [08:09] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] try "wine eject" [08:13] Zordrak: i have no clue what that even means [08:14] k will try [08:14] ananke: trying to recall if you are a netbackup user [08:14] nope. we use tsm [08:15] Zordrak, haha it works! you're a lifesaver [08:15] ah. trying to find out how long it takes everyone else to get revised renewal quotes.. am 3 weeks and counting here [08:15] stuart__: good good [08:16] Zordrak: quotes? on what? updated? renewed? [08:16] Zordrak, but it still won't umount and mount the 2nd cd, even if i've inserted it, because it says it's in use [08:18] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:19] The-Croupier: renewal [08:19] The-Croupier: we get a "due for renewal" really really early.. by the time its time to make a financial decision the quote is out of date.. then takes 3 weeks to get a new one [08:21] stuart__: im too far removed from it.. keep playing with it and see where you get.. perhaps try #wine too [08:21] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-177-24-129.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.75.197) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:22] Zordrak: and the loop continues i guess...;) [08:22] how long has it been? [08:22] ... 3 weeks [08:22] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.75.197) joined ##slackware. [08:22] IceChant (~icechant@109.160.193.242) joined ##slackware. [08:23] I am trying to find out how much memory apache uses for a single web page to load [08:23] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:23] can top or ps help me here? [08:23] IceChant (~icechant@109.160.193.242) left irc: Client Quit [08:26] you should be looking at apache's mod_info [08:26] elliot98: i dont know if this is helpful but theres also an apachetop [08:27] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-177-24-129.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [08:27] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [08:28] oh wow, the reason was i ran wine in /mnt/cdrom, i should've ran wine in /home/me [08:28] I'll look into those [08:28] I'm taking a peek at top and trying to figure out some figures there [08:28] how unforgiving, linux [08:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:29] the VIRT (virtual memory) is quite high for all the apache processes (like 230m) [08:30] seems like an inflated number, the resident memory is maximum 15m [08:31] also, the CODE and DATE reflect only physical memory and not entire virtual memory [08:34] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-218-210.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: User disconnected [08:38] j0z (~j0z@189.26.43.118.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:38] j0z (~j0z@189.26.43.118.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [08:38] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:41] slackandrew (~slackandr@144.75.187.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [08:44] gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [08:45] how can i stop something buil-in to the kernel [*] without recompile [08:45] macman_ (~macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Disconnected by services [08:45] you can't [08:46] aaaaaaa [08:46] if you want to take something out, the image needs rebuilding. it's not like a module, where you can unload it [08:48] i know [08:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:48] i just whant to stop the msgs [08:48] debug [08:48] Ralink debugfs support and Ralink debug output [08:48] maybe command-line option [08:48] Azeotrope, regarding your question of a couple of hours ago: try fslint, it finds duplicate files. [08:49] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:49] slava_dp: thanks [08:49] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. 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[09:01] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!phrag@about/slackware/phrag: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | Slackware 13.0 Released August 26, 2009 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: httpd, firefox [09:01] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!phrag@about/slackware/phrag: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | Slackware 13.0 Released August 26, 2009 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: httpd, firefox, pidgin [09:01] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [09:03] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/52496 [09:03] vim keybindings for firefox [09:04] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [09:05] gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [09:05] why on boot it splits info/boot/information of kernel on 2 ttys? [09:06] which ttys? [09:06] tty1 and tty6 aways [09:07] not for me. [09:07] before entering init level is it on tty 1 after that everything goest to tty6 [09:07] sunroy (~test@116.68.96.32) joined ##slackware. [09:07] if it wasnt you again, i think someone else said that last week. i checked and it doesnt here either [09:07] graphical boot? [09:07] console [09:07] sahk0: ++ [09:08] sunroy (test@116.68.96.32) left ##slackware. [09:08] but i have graphical login [09:08] but i dont think it happened in console either cause i always upgrade in a console [09:09] i would expect that what you're seeing is the boot information is complete on tty1 and syslog is configured to display on tty6 [09:09] you won't get additional logging on the console after the login prompt [09:10] so its not switching from tty1 to tty6 [09:11] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:11] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:12] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:14] gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: Quit: When you don't know what you are doing, do it neatly. [09:16] Axius (~fd@92.82.80.141) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:17] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [09:17] anyone got songbird up and running. Keeps complaining that it cant initialize Gstreamer. Gstreamer seems fine and can play files ... mhhhh [09:18] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:18] mr-S: (depending on slack version in use) do you have gst-plugins-good installed? [09:18] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.4.212) joined ##slackware. [09:18] (/var/log/packages/gst*) [09:19] yep all the needed packages are there [09:20] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:20] gstreamer 0.10.23 installed, orbit, pulseaudio ( with assinged right and group ), even installed gconf [09:20] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:20] and all gst plugins [09:20] all? [09:20] (not that its likely relevant to the problem) [09:21] well bad, good, ugly,base [09:21] and gst bad [09:21] kill ugly [09:21] lets try [09:21] 99% not gonna fix the problem.. but unless you *reallyreally* need it, kill ugly [09:21] i would think terms like bad and ugly would be to discourage their use [09:22] but i'm just guessin [09:22] they are.. but bad just means not necessarily fully conforming to lgpl and a few other reasons [09:22] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:22] ugly means what it says on the tin [09:22] still the same ... [09:22] mr-S: log files and debugging for you then :) [09:24] feinom (~feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [09:24] maybe strace can help [09:25] http://pastebin.com/XYwuaE71 [09:25] console error message [09:26] any clue here ? [09:26] Kamel (klo_391@c-76-123-106-90.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [09:26] i would start on debug logs before strace.. with sthg like gstreamer the relevant bits are likely to be lost in a massive stream of crap [09:26] all mentioned libs are confirmed [09:26] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [09:26] well the first error says '/usr/lib/Songbird/gst-plugins/libgstpulse.so': libpulse.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [09:26] he wait .. [09:27] `file '/usr/lib/Songbird/gst-plugins/libgstpulse.so' [09:27] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-244.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] hot damn your right ... one moment please [09:28] >.< [09:28] mr-S: You installed with the SlackBuild? [09:28] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [09:28] i have magical powers [09:28] illovae (~C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [09:29] hello o/ [09:29] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Skywise: You put on your robe and wizard hat? [09:29] /usr/lib/Songbird/gst-plugins should be /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/ [09:29] no, thats so passe [09:29] i put on my glow in the dark tron suit [09:31] arggg libgstpulse.so is available in the songbird dir [09:32] is that path in ld.so.conf? [09:32] and you've run ldconfig? [09:33] all files are from slackbuild ( never use anything else ) [09:33] I narrowed it down to libpulse.so.0 thats seems to be the bastardo [09:34] so, now you need to figure out where that comes from [09:35] are you even using pulse audio? [09:35] (nm read from above) [09:37] theres an lq thread suggesting alsa-plugins is required [09:37] but tbh this is passing above my level of experience with pulse [09:38] I am stupid, forgot to install pulseaudio. Lord forgive ME. just installing now [09:38] i was winging it from the start [09:38] there ya go [09:38] >.< [09:38] Action: Zordrak dusts off cluebat [09:38] lol [09:39] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] "Forgetting" to install pulseaudio is like "Forgetting" to set yourself on fire. [09:40] kehcho (~kehcho@172.123.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:40] hi all [09:40] i forget that all the time [09:40] *running around while bing on fire * ( outch ) [09:40] how i can resolv that? [09:40] Mar 11 15:05:49 tornadowt kernel: scsi: Detection failed (no card) [09:40] ... [09:40] Channel flood from kehcho -- kicking [09:40] Mar 11 15:05:49 tornadowt kernel: Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! [09:40] kehcho kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:40] kehcho (~kehcho@172.123.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:41] kehcho: http://pastebin.org [09:41] |Slacker| (~Cris@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:41] Zordrak it's only 2 lines [09:41] 3 [09:41] sorry ;9 [09:41] you actually used up 4 in 2 seconds [09:41] hence the twatting by slackboy [09:42] pastebin avoids such issues [09:43] someone knows how can I resolve that? [09:43] kehcho: perc2? [09:43] i don't know what is perc2 [09:43] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:44] well installed pulseaudio + alsa-plugins. Still no songbird [09:45] Zordrak i don't use any scsi drive [09:45] kehcho: modprobe pata_sch [09:46] not found [09:46] i'm usign ata driver [09:46] ata drive* [09:46] kernel ver and type? [09:47] Linux tornadowt 2.6.32.7 #2 Sat Jan 30 13:52:42 CST 2010 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [09:47] slackware 13 [09:47] dont see why pata_sch would not be present [09:47] lets try a restart [09:48] kehcho: file /lib/modules/2.6.32.7-smp/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_sch.ko [09:49] 19 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18336 Jan 30 07:43 pata_pcmcia.ko [09:49] i have only 1 file [09:49] ls -lsa /lib/modules/2.6.32.7/kernel/drivers/ata/ [09:49] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:50] i'm using non SMP kernel [09:50] generic huge or custom? [09:50] huge [09:50] hmm.. non-smp eh [09:50] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [09:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:50] manhunter kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Impersonating Pat V. did not help either. Grow up, get a life [09:50] yes, because is one processor machine [09:50] thats not necessarily a reason not to run smp kernel [09:50] but fair enough [09:51] SMP is better on most processors. [09:52] and with a pentium 2 [09:52] i don't know how realy works SMP [09:52] so, i used the non smp [09:52] generally best to only use non-smp if you *know* you need to [09:53] Uhm..I would've ran non-SMP kernel on a P2 too [09:53] SMP kernels have overhead that doesn't really matter to modern processors,but can make a noticable difference on old ones [09:53] AtuM (~damjan@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:53] just loloking and wondering where the module actually comes from.. it doesnt seem to be part of the smp modules pkg either. i run a custom kernel but dont recall explicitly enabling it [09:54] according to menuconfig N should work faster [09:54] i searched for modprobe scsi* in /etc/rc.d/rc.M and every line that contain scsi is comment [09:55] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:55] it will be in rc.modules-`uname -r` if anywhere [09:56] dive, my bad.. i also searched it there [09:57] kehcho: zgrep PATA_SCH /proc/crypto [09:57] kehcho: zgrep PATA_SCH /proc/config.gz [09:57] 2nd one [09:57] CONFIG_PATA_SCH=y [09:57] O_o. ok. [09:58] guess its not that then :/ [09:58] that is the error? [09:58] no [10:00] pff [10:01] kehcho: zgrep SCSI_7000FASST /proc/config.gz [10:01] it's true too [10:02] kruger (~i00nsu@a85-139-203-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:02] clear [10:03] kehcho: pastebin the whole dwesg [10:03] *dmesg [10:03] ok [10:03] juan--d-_-b (~juan--d-_@201.244.107.172) joined ##slackware. [10:03] hi [10:04] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] i have a problem with mplayer, i can't watch many pr0n videos i have, but with ffplay i can, and before the last update to slackcurrent 64 i can [10:04] http://pastebin.com/UYEzSU9E [10:04] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:05] dude wtf.. what kind of system i-s this? PII with a fibrechannel hba and an adaptec sas card? [10:06] and the gmplayer fails when i go to preferences -> video -> panscan [10:06] it dies =P [10:06] Zordrak ;) [10:07] get your wallet out and buy a new mobo and proc... stop wasting such delicious peripherals :) [10:08] wow [10:08] :D [10:09] hold on just a second.... [10:09] k [10:10] this might sound like a silly question... do you HAVE a WD-7000 scsi card? [10:10] no [10:11] kehcho: is anything actually not working... or are you just wondering about the error messages? [10:12] yes i wondering about the errors [10:12] kill [10:12] me [10:12] now [10:12] and how i can disable to apper these errors [10:12] kehcho: close your eyes [10:13] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::568b) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:13] or use a generic kernel instead of huge [10:13] yeah, but ossec no close eyes ;) [10:14] and i have another problem with udevd [10:14] this isnt a kernel seeing peripherals and failing to init them... its a kernel with EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN built into it and as all the code loads up, cuntom peripherals drivers are looking to see if their peripherals are there or not and bitching when they realised you asked them to load but theres nothing for them to load up [10:15] i bet you dont have a fibre HBA or an adaptec sas card either [10:15] or bugger all else for that matter [10:16] Zordrak i will close my eyes ;) [10:16] you do that [10:16] lauNd (~thiago@189.8.84.20) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:16] but since you are on a PII and therefore almost certainly short on RAM you should run a generic kernel instead [10:16] http://pastebin.com/tCjF29WL [10:17] lol [10:17] Zordrak i will compile it some day... [10:17] compile? [10:17] the kernel [10:17] Pat has already prepared one for you [10:18] where the shit is that cluebat [10:18] if i understand, you're running a kernel customized for the wrong hardware and don't wanna see the error messages? [10:18] Skywise: its not customized for anything.. its just the huge kernel [10:18] and allr kind of drivers are being unnecessarily loaded [10:19] hmm [10:19] i think maybe windows would be a more appropriate os [10:20] Zordrak in this pastebin http://pastebin.com/tCjF29WL the lines 8 and 9... [10:20] kehcho: seriously.. boot the generic kernel.. THEN see what errors are produced [10:21] okey [10:21] and then add support in modules [10:22] from the slackware release announcements: [10:22] To use a generic kernel you'll need to build an initrd to load your filesystem module and possibly your drive controller or other drivers needed at boot time, configure LILO to load the initrd at boot, and reinstall LILO. [10:22] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [10:23] that can help me? [10:23] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/README.initrd [10:23] yup [10:23] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:23] or you can follow my guide to build a generic kernel without needing an initrd [10:23] where i can found yout guide? [10:24] or you could just use menuconfig and the check the appropriate boxes [10:24] kehcho: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/ [10:24] page link on the right [10:26] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [10:26] yes [10:26] this one? [10:26] okey, thanks a lot, i will do that [10:26] EITHER do that.. or use the initrd readme to create an initrd for use with the generic kernel pat has given you [10:26] It helps if you know what chipset and other hardware you have [10:30] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:32] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:35] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [10:42] random thought for the day. Corey Feldman starred in a comedy called dweebs. Corey Feldman played the voice of Donatello in the TMNT movies. Robert Paulsen played Raphael in the TMNT tv series, and then also rude dog in Rude Dog and The Dweebs. [10:42] full circle shizzle [10:47] whut? [10:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:54] Zordrak: urandom? for the DDNS script for untangle? [10:54] yeh [10:54] Action: agentc0re shrug [10:54] lol [10:54] i just woke up [10:54] Gr1nch (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [10:54] i don't even recall the differences atm. [10:55] hi guys, what's the alternative to cdrecord to support burning 4.7GB DVDs? [10:55] as fas as i know random is blocking but pure random, urandom is nonblocking but unpure [10:55] eldragon: growisofs [10:56] growisofs++ [10:57] agentc0re: for generating a secure key i think only random really cuts the grey poupon [10:57] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-218-210.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:58] Zordrak: you know since you mentioned someone, i swear there was a good reason why i chose urandom. [10:58] urandom must not be used for anything serious [10:58] speed? [10:58] Camarade_Tux: maybe. [10:58] i honestly don't remember. [10:58] Camarade_Tux: there are times when urandom is necessary to avoid blocking [10:58] not-blocking [10:59] Zordrak: yeah, but for anything long, urandom must no be used [10:59] well i will change the post in to use random instead of urandrom. [10:59] but for single key generation where entropy requirement is low and theres a user present performing the action i dont see a reason not to use random since it is more secure... the blocking isnt relevant [10:59] agentc0re: :) [10:59] Zordrak: you bring up a good point [11:00] Comarade_Hemorrhoids [11:00] Zordrak: and in all honesty, urandom is probably good enough, even though it's unpure, it's no trouble to go the extra mile. [11:00] jeev-boobjob, is that you? [11:00] so long as the user understands that if the generation blocks then he needs to produce some entropy out of his ass to fire the bitch up [11:00] Zordrak: maybe it was that random didn't work within the dnssec option or something. [11:00] i'm still waiting for it. [11:01] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] agentc0re: im just the idea man :) [11:01] hahahah [11:02] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:02] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:04] I have no sound from my VirtualBox VMs. I checked alsamixer on host, volumes on guest. [11:05] Azeotrope: have you actually got a virtual sound card configured? [11:05] growisofs is for creating isos, not for burning isos. [11:06] eldragon: does both [11:06] this netgear switch is nice =) [11:06] Zordrak: yes [11:07] i am sure it's a host OS issue [11:07] should I reinstall ALSA? update it? [11:07] eldragon: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=foo.iso [11:07] Zordrak: -dvd-compat et al [11:07] if necessary [11:08] Action: Zordrak pats Azeotrope on the head.. yeah.. you go recompile asla... come back just after 5pm GMT [11:08] eldragon: hehe... actually you must be thinking of mkisofs and genisoimage =) [11:09] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:09] http://pastebin.org/109856 [11:09] linc0ln (~linc0ln.d@aeay26.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Hey [11:09] you [11:09] get into my car [11:10] no [11:10] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.100) joined ##slackware. [11:17] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:18] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-241.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] diegobestlinux (diegobest@201.91.215.132) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:25] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:28] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:31] lol [11:32] har (~AndChat@mail.benningtonmarine.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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[11:42] being lazy [11:43] you underestimate people here [11:43] the first hit on google is "why slackware isn't LSB compliant?" [11:43] they are the right community [11:43] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-63-241.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:44] linux-questions is too [11:44] Rossonero, did Pat submit and pay to have LSB certification? [11:44] and I still have no sound in my VMs [11:44] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:45] brainvision (~brainvisi@host242-129-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:45] tried alsa, pulse, checked configs both on host an guest [11:45] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-79-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:45] alisonken1home, Don't know it's just a question\ [11:46] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-79-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Zordrak i resolved it with the initrd, because i see that is more easy... [11:46] alisonken1home, so what is the standard that pat follows ? [11:47] kiss [11:47] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] he follows the LSB pretty close, he just hasn't paid to have it blessed by the LSB group [11:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-136.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:47] actually is kisss [11:47] but when i was building the initrd, and then loaded it, say me that no such file libm.so.6, so i copy it and make it again... and resolved all [11:47] keep it simple stupid standard [11:47] LSB is IMHO fatally flawed. [11:47] alisonken1home, ok [11:49] Alan_Hicks, because it requires RPM ? [11:49] kiss-ass = keep it simple stupid - a simple slack [11:49] hi all. after updating to current when i double click to jpeg images gqview opens and keeps closing immediately. (xfce4.6.1). if i $gqview mypicture.jpeg it keeps the window opened. [11:49] it's interesting how a simple question results in a hostile answers [11:49] Rossonero: No, but RPM is also IMHO fatally flawed. [11:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter expired. [11:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:51] my sound is also fatally flawed IMHO [11:51] but nobody gives a crap [11:51] hhhhhhhhhhhh [11:51] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [11:52] Rossonero: simple answer to your original question is: no [11:52] I knew [11:52] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] the next question was why ? [11:53] Rossonero: for starters, it wasn't submitted for certification. [11:53] HoldMyPocket (~charleskh@12.157.146.158) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:53] Rossonero, if you read my answer, it tells you why [11:53] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:53] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [11:54] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] is slackware trying to broke compatibility among Linux distributions ? [11:54] gbowden (~gbowden@120.Red-81-44-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] no - other distributions are trying to broke compatibility [11:55] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [11:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:55] dios_mio (~test@88.243.102.42) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Rossonero: Not hardly. Considering Slackware existed long before LSB was a pipe dream, that's an absurd suggestion. [11:55] if you talk about redhat and suse I will see yes [11:56] if you look at RH and SuSE, you'll see that they changed from the way unix was originally [11:56] gbowden (~gbowden@120.Red-81-44-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] but for debian I think no, debian is close to open-source community [11:56] gbowden (~gbowden@120.Red-81-44-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Debian is IMHO fatally flawed [11:57] Rossonero: Ask yourself this question. What is the point of the LSB? When you understand that, you'll know whether or not Slackware is trying to break compatability with other distros. [11:57] Rossonero: i'm not sure why you seem to attribute some kind of conscious decision of not doing LSB [11:57] alisonken1home, yeah.. and it's sad to see alan cox is RH leader :( [11:57] Rossonero: Then why the heck does Debian spend so much time and effort patching the original source instead of working with the original developers? [11:57] i won't go to hell when i'll die because i'm suffering on earh using Ubuntu at work.. [11:57] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@host-studentw-140-122.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Azeotrope: Bless you, child! [11:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Hi, I upgraded to current and are trying to boot the generic smp kernel I don't know what device my usb hard drive that I boot from has been assigned [11:58] since AC is employed by RH (not sure about now, I thought I saw he changed employers not too long ago), it's not surprising that he uses their desktop [11:58] Slackware is compiled directly from the original source code in most cases. Where it's patched, the patch is carefully considered and publically available. [11:58] however, AC is a kernel dev, so there you have it [11:59] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [11:59] gbowden: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [11:59] ok have to go [11:59] thanks for answers.. see you later [11:59] jkwood: not sure why you mention 'publically available', as that would be different than what other distros do [11:59] If Slackware is trying to break compaibility with other distros, then all the software providers it uses are trying to as well. [12:00] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.231.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:00] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:00] ananke: make it "patches are distributed with the distribution rather than a separate download" [12:00] i'll stop living if slackware turns to RPM, for many.. that may be a great thing [12:00] I used to have sda1 as the usb hdd, but I also have hda1 which changes to sda1 and I don't know which one the usb drive is so can't boot [12:01] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:01] alisonken1home: not sure how that applies. sources to slackware are available on a separate media, same way as most distros. [12:01] jkwood: "publically available" isn't the phrase to use here. "available seperately for inspection" is more accurate. [12:01] Action: Alan_Hicks loathes the way Debian lumps all its patches together. [12:01] Alan_Hicks: Right, that's what I shoul.d ahve written. [12:01] ananke: unless you get the DVD - but either way, the patches are part of the distribution medium [12:02] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [12:02] They're also usually borrowed from other distros, AFAIK. [12:02] alisonken1home: same way as other distros do. so what's different? [12:02] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:02] ananke: see Alan_Hicks comment [12:03] let's not use debian as a golden rule here, since they do stuff differently than most other distros [often for the sake of doing things differently] [12:03] Will they every finalize GNU Project? [12:03] probably not [12:03] remember it's run by committee [12:05] look: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/e/e3/Linuxdistro.png [12:05] i found it [12:06] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-178-22-242.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [12:06] I've got that set as a background on one of my computers [12:06] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:06] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-93.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] gbowden (~gbowden@120.Red-81-44-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:07] it would be interesting to see how many more have popped up since 2007, and how many died [12:08] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@host-studentw-140-122.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:08] i think there really is an updated version of that diagram.. can't remember where though [12:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:09] http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt1003.svg [12:09] latest [12:09] in 2010 [12:10] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:10] I get very little spam (thanks to postgrey), but I placed an ad on craisglist two days ago, and so far I've gotten 3 personalized spam messages [12:10] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [12:11] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:11] from hotmail and aol accounts, naturally [12:13] that's why you dont use your main address for those sorts of things [12:13] and did you really think asking for 20 roses to give felatio wouldn't bring you spam ? [12:13] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [12:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Swaret and slackpkg were included as extra packages in the Slackware 9.1 CD #2,[13] but were not installed by default. Swaret was removed from the distribution as of Slackware 10.0 but is still available as a community supported package. As of Slackware 12.2, slackpkg has been added as the official remote package manager. [12:16] shouldn't that say sbopkg has been added as the official remote package manager ? [12:16] or is it slackpkg [12:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [12:18] It's slackpkg. sbopkg is only for SlackBuilds.org, which is unofficial. [12:18] slackpkg is correct [12:18] okie [12:18] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:18] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. [12:19] chess is _hoping_ sbopkg will be included in /extra at least sometime in the near future [12:19] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:20] he is? [12:21] I'd almost find that hard to believe, but [12:21] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:21] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] mm, I guess there are other package-related items in /extra already [12:21] hard to believe chess would like it to be included with slackware somewhere, or that pat would accept it? [12:22] Yeah, but those are related to building packages, not pulling in from a non-official source. [12:22] well, slapt-get was included at one point :) [12:22] can you tell me how to use awk do print the 3-rd word from a text file ? [12:22] jkwood, yeah, exactly [12:22] I highly, HIGHLY doubt that we'll be seeing sbopkg, swaret, slaptget, or any of those others in the future. [12:23] kslackpkg is special because it would take heavy modification on the remote end to use it with anything that's not an official or unnoficial mirror. [12:23] well, the others try to do other things as well, at least sbopkg sticks to basics [12:24] and a repo of slackbuilds that are pretty well controlled [12:24] regardless, it's a slippery slope [12:24] true [12:24] that's why I said "hope" [12:27] oxiredo_ro, awk '{print $3}' file [12:27] ty [12:28] acidchild (~ash@CPE002191f86f47-CM00194747a73c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@m83-178-22-242.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:28] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@unaffiliated/puroosso) joined ##slackware. [12:28] oh,one more question : can i rean first word from a new line? [12:28] read * [12:28] in awk? [12:29] change the "3" to a "1" ? [12:29] man awk, but yes [12:29] I need to run a script when a user logs in to mount their home folder. /etc/profile runs everytime a terminal is opened. what are my alternatives? [12:29] .bashrc .bash_profile? [12:29] LD_PRELOAD? [12:30] ~/profile or ~/bashrc [12:30] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] ~/.profile [12:30] ~/.alisonken1home [12:31] :) [12:31] oxiredo_ro, http://polymer.bu.edu/~fding/awk/gawk_toc.html [12:31] ty [12:32] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=awk+programming [12:33] alisonken1home: acidchild ~/.profile do not exist because the users home folder has not been mounted yet [12:33] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.110.67) joined ##slackware. [12:34] ok - is it cli login or gui login? [12:34] the other option is to setup automount to mount user home directory [12:34] dios_mio (~test@88.243.102.42) left irc: Quit: Isaiah 22:13 And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die. [12:35] alisonken1home: wont it just mount over the top of the emptyish ~? [12:35] alisonken1home: cli [12:35] you can always use 'id' and 'if'`s in /etc/profile? 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[12:38] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:38] omnipotentduo (~ray@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) joined ##slackware. [12:39] morning, anyone have a problem with corrupted cylinders, be for a corrupted sector happened? [12:39] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:39] omnipotentduo: time to chuck the drive [12:40] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:40] ananke, heh, its trashed but i have never come across a corrupted cylinder before [12:40] a zip file create a folder with strange symbolic letters as name...and now i cant delete this folder.....why? [12:41] v4nelle: what happens when you try? [12:41] The file or folder /home/van/ýýýýý îý?ý - ý ýýýýýýýý ýì ýýýì (ýýýýýýýýýýý - 2010) does not exist. [12:41] ? [12:41] v4nelle: what's the full command you're typing? [12:42] how do I scroll up in a terminal its shift + something but not sure :3 [12:42] sec0nd: pageup [12:42] right click and delete [12:42] How do I do it in screen? [12:42] v4nelle: in what? [12:42] i try to remove these folder on trash bin but nothing happend...sorry about my english [12:42] sec0nd: C-a Esc and then k or page UP [12:43] hba (~hba@148.208.237.69) joined ##slackware. [12:43] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-hccmhupyqisnzips) joined ##slackware. [12:43] sec0nd: then Esc to return to normal way [12:43] sec0nd: it is named the "copy mode" [12:43] v4nelle: try using rm from command line. i have no clue what software you're using to remove that file [12:43] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:44] hrad (~lisak@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] v4nelle, what are the permissions set to? that could be the problem [12:45] C-a ESC [12:45] ananke, i couldnt find the lettersbut i used rm -r *2010* and it works :) [12:46] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::571d) joined ##slackware. [12:46] there goes another year [12:46] v4nelle: i find that 'mc' is a very good utility for removing those pesky things [12:48] illovae: hmmm... shit+pg up/down works in screen here =) [12:48] thx ananke :) [12:48] snL20: yeah, it use your terminal buffer, not the screen buffer in this case :) [12:48] gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [12:48] illovae: ok :-) [12:49] it works unless you have some dynamic part of hardstatus, then the only way is copy mode or xoff/xon [12:49] whereis printk [12:49] biker (~biker@201.130.158.55.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] what dirs [12:49] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [12:49] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:49] last I checked printk is a function, especially in the "C" programming language library [12:49] With the Slackware Security Updates, is the command upgradepkg or installpkg? [12:50] gh0st, in what context are you looking for printk? [12:50] upgradepkg once you d/l it [12:50] alisonken1home: Thanks :]. [12:50] alisonken1home: where is located printk? [12:50] /proc ? [12:50] isn't that a kernel function? [12:51] alisonken1home: uhm... its a kernel function =) [12:51] ThomasLocke_ (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [12:51] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:51] _slax0r_ (fire@2001:15c0:66ca::514) left irc: Quit: changing servers [12:52] and isn't the kernel written in C? printk is also a C function [12:52] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [12:52] unless I'm confusing it with printf [12:52] ananke, does it handle reiser, and xfs? from what i knew that would only operate on ext2 [12:52] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) joined ##slackware. [12:52] rek (~riccardo@host43-174-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:52] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:52] alisonken1home: yeah... but its specifically for the kernel =) [12:52] I think printk is a function only used by kernel/modules [12:52] omnipotentduo: what, mc? it doesn't care what filesystem you use. [12:53] would you recommend jfs? i usually work with big files and it would be in a laptop. ext4 is in someway slow than reiserfs. [12:53] hba: ntfs! =D [12:53] ananke, yeah, i got it, i haven't messed with it since it was a norton clone [12:53] hba: yeah, it's a decent filesystem, and doesn't require much processing power [12:53] how can i edit /proc/tty/drivers [12:53] hba, personally i like reiser or xfs [12:54] gh0st, you can't edit anything in /proc [12:54] dive: recovery mode? [12:54] gh0st, anything in /proc is current kernel space stuff so you can see what your kernel is doing - very limited in what you can do there [12:54] /dev/tty /dev/tty 5 0 system:/dev/tty [12:54] dive: almost correct - you can update some settings, but not tty stuff [12:54] that is from /proc/tty/drivers [12:54] how can i change it to 1 [12:54] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:55] hba, both are a journaling file system but they are slow to boot [12:55] alisonken1home, you can echo stuff in there but that's it afaik [12:55] is autofs installed into slackware already? [12:55] Gr1nch (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:55] dive: the edlin of kernel updating :) [12:55] how can i change from /proc/tty/drivers ? [12:55] omnipotentduo: ah, but i dont have any problem with that ;) [12:55] gh0st, what are you trying to do? [12:56] /dev/tty /dev/tty 5 0 system:/dev/tty [12:56] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::571d) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:56] i want 5 to be 1 [12:56] for what? [12:56] from drivers [12:56] hba, i think all of us just boot once and maybe reboot after upgrading the kernel [12:56] how for what? [12:56] to be 1 ?!? [12:56] to be tty1 [12:56] AbsTradE1ic (~vldmr@187.64.65.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:56] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::538d) joined ##slackware. [12:57] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:57] brainvision (~brainvisi@host66-39-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:57] gh0st, you need to learn more about linux, then [12:58] for what? [12:58] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:58] hi,i'm sad [12:58] tough [12:58] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.63.127) joined ##slackware. [12:58] install the gnu login-utils [12:58] might need patching or so [12:58] because you don't arbitrarily try to change stuff in the running kernel without knowing what you want and what consequences you'll be encountering [12:59] mucking with kernel space is a good way to trash your system [12:59] gh0st, what is your ultimate objective? [12:59] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:00] :))))))))) [13:00] gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: Quit: Death to all fanatics! [13:00] ??? profit? [13:00] I was waiting for that :) [13:01] what me to say that or him to leave haha [13:03] tommys_knockers (~sisssss@212.183.140.21) joined ##slackware. [13:03] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@unaffiliated/puroosso) left irc: Quit: PuroOsso [13:05] looking at login-utils is a good place to start on that one [13:06] gh0st: http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:WxomwzdG0Q4J:lwn.net/images/pdf/LDD3/ch18.pdf+linux+/proc/tty/drivers&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiU1CLMz9psNXf0EMF33cc2NP0xx2WwhHPa1fpCt-IwY4tzkPuSCfT19RZ40bk_jnIATL7H41BcJTEJMLuTaz2mL_C_cHUITOZ6zTZy5yrVEJwb2IAC5uYbeFIi2NoMRjbQXvNd&sig=AHIEtbRYisdw19tr-r_QeeS7MS_CX_sD2A [13:06] look at page 2 [13:07] Action: jkwood hands alisonken1home urlx.eu [13:07] gh0st: the 5 on lines 1,2,3 are the major number of the device node in /dev [13:07] alisonken1home: Also, he flew the coop. [13:08] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:08] ah [13:08] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] missed that [13:08] i dont wanna look it up what's the lspci search command? [13:08] lspci ? [13:08] man lspci ? [13:08] >> [13:08] you would haha [13:08] lspci | grep TELLMEWHATIWANTOKNOWNOWORELSE [13:08] any chance to teach thunar ftp:// and ssh:// ? [13:09] thats what it is pipe grep thanks jkwood [13:10] to add the option " -input-charset iso8859-15 " to the DVD creation? [13:10] eldragon: ? [13:10] Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. [13:10] I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale settings) [13:11] later guys [13:11] has anyone else noticed that firefox creates Desktop and Downloads folders in your HOME folder [13:11] because the locale of my machine is utf-8, not as appeared in the default of genisoimage's man [13:11] goarilla, I thought it was Chrome doing that [13:12] i'm not 100% certain it's firefox but it's either that or virtualbox [13:13] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:13] why would vbox create a Downloads dir? [13:13] i dont' know [13:13] :D maybe for updates for the VboxAdditions [13:14] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:14] well delete Downloads, startup firefox/vbox and see if it comes back [13:14] how can I tell which php version I have installed? [13:15] ls /var/log/packages/php* [13:15] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@189.74.141.10) joined ##slackware. [13:15] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@189.74.141.10) left irc: Changing host [13:15] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@unaffiliated/puroosso) joined ##slackware. [13:15] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] or use the php version flag [13:15] yep [13:15] i'll do that tomorrow [13:16] 5.2.12 [13:16] or ... if apache is running one could curl -I localhost [13:16] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) joined ##slackware. [13:16] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:16] time to compile and upgrade, apache doesn't seem to be linked to php yet .... [13:16] i'm assuming you're not obfuscating what apache reports [13:16] omnipotentduo (~ray@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:16] effy11, ? [13:16] effy11: you compile php to match apache, not the other way around [13:17] ok [13:17] anyone got a tutorial link? [13:17] err, it should be " -output-charset iso8859-15 " [13:17] are you trying to upgrade your php? or just install the default slackware php packae? [13:17] I already have the default slackware version installed [13:18] effy11, did you uncomment the php line in /etc/httpd/httpd.conf? [13:18] both php and php-apache-mods? [13:18] I think the questions to effy11 is "What are you trying to accomplish"? [13:18] effy11, Include /etc/httpd/mod_php.conf [13:18] effy11: Try to open httpd.conf and uncomment the php line. Its almost at the bottom og httpd.conf [13:18] upgrade php, ok [13:18] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.4.236) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:20] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.4.236) joined ##slackware. [13:20] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [13:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-170-168.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:21] I uncommented it, but it's still not working... [13:21] restart apache [13:21] ok [13:22] can anyone tell me ive installed Virtualbox with slackbuilds do start it up with Virtualbox as root ....i could start it up with user with the *.run install ... ? [13:23] apachectl restart [13:23] effy11, use /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd restart [13:24] thanks [13:24] damn, no different [13:24] reload browser with F5 [13:24] tommys_knockers I've always ran it as user. [13:24] where have you put you php ( test ) file ? [13:25] oh wait, F5 duh lol [13:25] you install with slackbuilds HoldMyPocket ? [13:25] and is it named "*.php"? [13:25] ctrl+f5 worked :) [13:26] nice ... :) [13:26] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.115.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:26] yeah thats what i normally do HoldMyPocket ...but thought i'd try a slackbuild of Virtualbox and i can seem to [13:26] PuroOsso (~PuroOsso@unaffiliated/puroosso) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:26] cant* [13:27] only root [13:27] you need to build the slackbuild as root [13:27] i did goarilla else it wouldnt have built it ? [13:28] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:28] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.115.233) joined ##slackware. [13:28] build it and in stalled it from same console so must have been root [13:32] tommy: AS i recall vbox is in need of a special group vboxusers to run. [13:33] ive got vboxusers:x:215 in /etc/group [13:33] and you have access to /dev/vboxdrv [13:33] ls -l ? [13:34] root vboxusers [13:34] give this a try: chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv [13:35] ok [13:35] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [13:35] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:36] but user doesnt have Virtualbox command ? [13:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:37] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:37] you need read/write access to /dev/vboxdrv. This might explain why only root can start it up. [13:38] if all fails: check this http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#id2514936 [13:38] ok thanks [13:38] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:39] og btw: are you a memember of vboc group ?? [13:39] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:39] *vbox [13:39] augusto (~augusto@189-041-11-023.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:40] how do i tell mr-S [13:40] the permissions on my /dev/vboxdrv is crw------- [13:40] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:41] mine are crw-rw-rw- after chmod 666 [13:41] also, i do have the vboxusers group created but am not in that group [13:41] I configed then make then make install on php5.3.2, what's the next step? [13:41] than i am out of ideas ... :( [13:41] tank-man, does user have the Virtualbox command ? [13:42] tommys_knockers, what does it say exactly when you type Virtualbox as the user? [13:42] yes [13:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:42] i dont have Virtualbox as user only root [13:42] effy11, what does php --version say? [13:42] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:42] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [13:43] PHP 5.3.2 (cli) (built: Mar 11 2010 18:37:46) Copyright (c) 1997-2010 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies [13:43] its VirtualBox [13:43] captial B [13:43] effy11, then it's installed. Did you removepkg the old php package? [13:43] but my test file says http://effy11.no-ip.biz/test.php [13:43] oops, no [13:43] yeah i type V as user and hit tab but no command beginning with V [13:44] well a few [13:44] tommys_knockers, i have a link pointing to a script /usr/bin/VirtualBox -> /opt/VirtualBox/VBox.sh [13:44] Wiseguy (wiseguy@default-ip-gblx.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] effy11, you should learn how to make a package. Installing like that may break things. Have a look in source folder on dvd for php.SlackBuild [13:44] Vboxclient VBoxclient-all VboxControl VboxRandR [13:44] ok [13:44] how do I remove the old one? [13:44] you didnt install with slackbuilds tank-man ? [13:45] no [13:45] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] effy11, removepkg php [13:45] i dont normally and it works fine ...this time i have and im having problems [13:45] effy11, then grab the slackbuild and change the version to your php.xxx.tar.gz [13:45] first time ive used slackbuild for VirtualBox [13:45] ok [13:45] then run it [13:46] tommys_knockers, so as root type, "which VirtualBox" [13:46] and it will tell you where the executable is, try running it with full path as a user [13:46] /usr/bin/VirtualBox [13:46] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [13:47] so /usr/bin is not in your path [13:47] weird [13:47] yeah thats what i though [13:47] t [13:47] so what happens when you run the command with full path [13:48] umm... php.Slackbuild isn't there [13:48] Nick change: ThomasLocke_ -> ThomasLocke [13:48] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:48] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:49] kehcho`afk (~kehcho@172.123.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:49] it's owned by root .....lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root << VirtualBox [13:49] command [13:49] gives me permission dinied [13:50] tank-man: check this form slackbuils.org http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/virtualbox-ose/ [13:50] effy11, ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/n/php/ [13:50] found it on the disk [13:50] tommys_knockers, Vbox is designed not to run unless you are in virtualbox group [13:51] this suggest: 1. user needs to be member of vboxuser group. 2. Hardening: doesn't this imply that only root can start vbox.( if hrdening has not been disabled ) ? [13:51] kehcho (~kehcho@172.123.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:51] tommys_knockers, what does the 'groups' command output as user? [13:51] zx10k1 (~nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [13:52] s/virtualbox/vboxusers/ [13:52] dive: the latest version of Virtual Box runs fine for me as root:root without me being in a vbox group [13:52] running it as a normal user [13:52] zaltekk, not here it doesn't [13:52] which part of php.slackbuild should I change? [13:52] for the SBo build anyway [13:52] dive: that is weird. are you using the slackbuild for the ose, or the binary installation? [13:52] slackbuild [13:52] okay, i use the binaries. that may be why. [13:52] effy11, VERSION [13:52] users floppy audio video cdrom ...dive [13:53] the slackbuild probably imposes that restriction [13:53] tommys_knockers, then do as root 'gpasswd -a vboxusers' [13:53] got anything more accurate? [13:53] tommys_knockers, then you need to log out and back into X/consoles etc [13:54] ok ill try that thanks [13:54] effy11, at the top it says VERSION= change that to the version you want to install! [13:54] ah that's easy [13:54] and that's all I have to do? [13:55] then run it and see if it works (maybe the patches will be a problem) [13:55] as root [13:55] yeah thats got it going dive thanks [13:55] ok [13:56] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:56] it's not running =/ [13:56] tommys_knockers, you aren't in many groups - I would suggest that adding yourself to power plugdev devnet will be useful [13:56] s/devnet/netdev/ [13:56] devnet? [13:56] :> [13:56] er :P [13:56] deathnet :P [13:56] skynet? [13:56] (I always get that confused) [13:56] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [13:57] ok i will dive you got a link to what i should or shouldnt add dive ? [13:57] groups [13:57] well I have: users audio video cdrom games plugdev power scanner vboxusers [13:58] er + netdev on laptop for wifi+wicd [13:58] what does plugdev do ? [13:58] allows plugged in things to work in KDE/xfce etc [13:58] like automount them [13:58] lets say it will allow you to mount a usb stick :) [13:58] so if i add them automount will work [13:59] oh right nice [13:59] it ought to in KDE/xfce anyway [13:59] what about netdev ? [13:59] wicd [13:59] for wifi [13:59] yeah [13:59] or for changing wired connections [13:59] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:00] dive: are you running -current by chance? [14:00] on one box [14:00] not in daily use though [14:00] with 2.6.33? [14:01] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:01] hmm I think or .32 whichever is the stock one [14:01] the latest -current uses 2.6.33 [14:01] right so .33 then [14:01] dive: running vbox on there as well? [14:01] pprkut, no it's too slow for vms [14:01] T21 850mhz [14:02] ah, heh, ok then :) [14:02] pprkut: i think that the kernel driver has issues compiling because of the changes in the kernel source tree [14:02] rogersman (~gr235423@nat/sun/x-cvnkbnwktemvrtjq) joined ##slackware. [14:02] pprkut: What's up? [14:02] pprkut: i read (from googling) that making a symlink for maybe autoconfig.h will allow it to compile the kernel driver, and then you can erase the simlink [14:02] zaltekk: Doesn't work. [14:02] jkwood: okay. i haven't tried it myself [14:03] effy11, where does the slackbuild fail? Can you pastebin the output? [14:03] the unofficial patch for the 190.53 nvidia drivers did work [14:03] twanny796 (~twanny@78.133.48.157) joined ##slackware. [14:03] it doesn't execute [14:03] You can patch the source, but I believe the patch to be already present in 3.1.4. [14:03] nmap xml viewer ?? [14:03] jkwood: I was just wondering if my slackbuilds for virtuialbox-{kernel,kernel-addons} work on .33 [14:03] effy11, chmod +x it, or 'sh *SlackBuild' [14:04] jkwood: I haven't switched to .33 yet, so I cannot test myself [14:04] ok [14:04] Not with 3.1.2. Do you have a new version up somewhere? [14:04] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:04] github [14:04] php.SlackBuild: line 58: cd: /root/../alpine: No such file or directory php.SlackBuild: line 58: ./alpine.SlackBuild: No such file or directory [14:04] twanny796: XML Parser? [14:04] :) [14:04] hm [14:04] And... spacetubes. I won't be able to test until late tomorrow or Saturday. [14:05] hah [14:05] acidchild: command ? [14:05] jkwood: hey man :-) [14:05] # we need to compile alpine to get c-client.a for IMAP support: [14:05] ack [14:05] twanny796: why are you outputting to XML if you need a viewer? [14:05] Actaully, that may be wrong. Let me see if I can pull this off. [14:05] twanny796: man nmap and search for [14:05] 'grep' [14:05] jkwood: don't worry. Not a big issue, just me being curious :) [14:05] acidchild: o/ [14:05] dive, what should I do? [14:06] jkwood: how you been? [14:06] acidchild: zen**** program which saves nmap output in xml [14:06] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:06] space tubes? you mean theres a space innernet? [14:06] effy11, I would try to delete that paragraph and try again - everything from # we need to compile alpine.. to the end of section [14:06] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Quit: ... [14:06] Rough few months, but I'm doing better. [14:06] i knew those martian ips were for real [14:06] twanny796: zenmap ? [14:07] twanny796: ok... well... you can open them in zenmap? (as a viewer) or you can learn to how to parse xml [14:07] effy11, do you have a _really_ good reason to upgrade php? [14:07] what would y'all recommend to bypass flash when movie playing in firefox? CPU usage is insane! [14:08] InTel1 (~intel@95.43.31.20) joined ##slackware. [14:08] I am late to the party, but FWIW, I doubt pat will ever include sbopkg in /extra [14:08] dive, 5.2.12 is rather baddly outdated [14:08] rogersman, noflash plugin for firefox [14:08] ? [14:08] acidchild: I'll rather learn how to parse xml because the prog is for windows and I'm using linux, which command? [14:08] InTel1 (intel@95.43.31.20) left ##slackware. [14:08] it's working now [14:08] isn't the movie in flash? [14:08] remove flash plugin from firefox? [14:08] effy11, only if you need some function that isn't supported... [14:08] meh, I just like being up to date [14:09] Oh, it's only 53 megs. I'm good. [14:09] rogersman, elinks with youtube.js script [14:09] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.31.20) joined ##slackware. [14:09] configure: error: utf8_mime2text() has new signature, but U8T_CANONICAL is missing. This should not happen. Check config.log for additional information. make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop [14:09] twanny796: perl? python? C? [14:09] rogersman, or that flashget or whatever it's called [14:09] pprkut: I'll have an answer for you in a couple hours. [14:09] effy11, no idea with that one [14:09] twanny796: which program is for windows? [14:10] alisonken1home dive : flashget and stuff is grand for downloading first, then playing, but I was looking for a way to "stream" it directly in say xine or something [14:10] jkwood: cool :) [14:10] http://images.jensonusa.com/email/2010/em031110/em031110_a_r7_c1.gif [14:10] Hell yeaahh!!! [14:11] theres snow outside [14:11] effy11: that means you build with alpine support and it can't find it (the c-client thing from before) [14:11] effy11, the slackbuild looks very complex [14:11] SSLTYPE=none [14:11] Springs not official until the Nexus One shows Verizon as an option :) [14:11] zaltekk: Zenmap [14:12] twanny796: that is for linux, too. it even comes with slackware. [14:12] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:12] effy11: 5.2.12 is not *that* old, just a few weeks. 5.2.13 is current and afaik available in -current and patches [14:12] sahk0: oh plz ;( [14:12] ok, but pprkut, how could I fix that alpine things [14:13] rek (~riccardo@host43-174-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [14:13] run the SlackBuild as intended? [14:13] sahk0: snow da blow ;D we have ice here, but the roads are dry an grippy [14:13] great weather to hit the rams [14:13] ramps* [14:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:13] zaltekk: ok checking [14:13] effy11: ie, in tree, or reconstruct the necessary parts of the tree elsewhere [14:14] huh [14:14] BrasForFatMen (~DrgdHmstr@pool-71-187-100-159.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Hello. [14:14] Hello. We're a fashion designer firm that designs bras for overweight men. [14:15] rofl [14:15] Isn't that called the "bro"? [14:15] dive, we have made a signature Michael Moore bra for overweight men with a superlative girth. [14:15] Hello BrasForFatMen do you require technical support for slackware [14:15] or the mansseire? [14:15] Yes, I need to talk to Patrick. [14:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [14:16] acidchild: technically you're right, the trees have started to blossom and all. so yay spring! :) [14:16] BrasForFatMen: please state your case - it better be about Slackware [14:16] patrick doesnt need a fay guy bra i seen his pic [14:16] haha [14:16] alienBOB: I am fapping to Madonna pics right now, hold on. [14:17] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@pool-71-187-100-159.nwrknj.east.verizon.net' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [14:17] BrasForFatMen kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: BrasForFatMen [14:17] fap to that [14:17] sahk0: awe, girlfriend was just saying it feels like fall, coz its warm, the trees are bear... [14:17] He obviously never saw a pic of Pat [14:17] classic [14:18] Action: chess hopes he never needs one [14:19] I think I'm getting close [14:19] :> [14:19] omg wut [14:19] lol [14:20] twanny796 (~twanny@78.133.48.157) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:20] hi effy11 did building a new kernel fix your sound problem [14:20] yes [14:20] :) [14:20] cool [14:20] i wanted to see where BrasForFatMen was headed [14:21] it discovered some new audio channels and BackMonkey enabled a few then a loud screeching noise played for a minute and then the test file played [14:22] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:22] Axius (~hi@92.84.10.107) joined ##slackware. [14:22] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Axius (~hi@92.84.10.107) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:23] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.31.20) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:23] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:24] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.31.20) joined ##slackware. [14:25] thats good news [14:25] its alive [14:25] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:26] guys i try to builds virtualbox-kernel and i get this http://pastebin.ca/1834243 ...why? [14:26] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:26] changes in the 2.6.33 source tree [14:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-170-168.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:27] v4nelle, you got kernel source installed? [14:27] http://www.insidiousramblings.com/files/fart.tar.bz2 [14:27] dive, yes [14:27] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [14:27] v4nelle, 13.0 or -current? [14:28] current [14:28] v4nelle: I'm in the process of testing a new build for 3.1.4 that should work on current [14:29] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:29] ah man, supertuxkart doesn't run :( [14:29] ok jkwood .....thx [14:30] tsomi (~tsomi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-182-232.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] rogersman (gr235423@nat/sun/x-cvnkbnwktemvrtjq) left ##slackware. [14:31] Action: jkwood sighs at his limite4d processro speed [14:31] kehcho`afk (~kehcho@172.123.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:31] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:31] slowly, i take it ? [14:32] like in....... out..... in....... [14:32] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [14:32] out [14:32] phew! [14:32] My power adapter was bad, so I'm using a lower-power one while I wait for a new one to come in - which means I'm stuck at 800 MHz. [14:32] ouch [14:33] where can I get IASL? [14:34] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [14:34] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Changing host [14:34] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:34] effy11: acpica [14:35] ok [14:35] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/acpica/ [14:35] disassembling your bios tables? [14:36] huh? [14:40] I think I'll try to build ChromiumOS again [14:40] hexxeh's have became to hacked for my likeing [14:43] oh damn, I'm using 32bit slackware ... [14:44] Axius (~hi@92.84.10.107) joined ##slackware. [14:44] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [14:46] and with amsn there is a problem.xoxoxo http://pastebin.ca/1834276 [14:46] pprkut: Still trucking. [14:46] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-73-60.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Axius (~hi@92.84.10.107) left irc: Client Quit [14:47] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:47] v4nelle: I suspect that's a probelm with the new libpng. [14:47] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:47] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E781A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:48] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.31.20) left ##slackware. [14:48] jkwood: you're building -ose or -kernel? [14:48] v4nelle what are you trying to compile? [14:49] say to Pat that isolinux/iso.sort is incomplete, the directory source should be in the last position of the media because it's not often used for installations. [14:49] pprkut: -ose [14:49] chatter (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-fvghvgukyrkqojfe) joined ##slackware. [14:49] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.110.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:50] jkwood: ah, ok. That might take a while yes. But I know already that that one works ;) [14:50] Yeah, but I need to build it to build the -kernel [14:50] er, no? [14:50] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:51] rawr! 8E [14:52] you hear about the new distro "Hackware Linux" ? [14:53] they took slackware 12.2 and upgraded it to slackware-current and repackaged it as HACKWARE [14:53] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. 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[14:55] good thinks can come out from forking, usually natural selection make the best survive [14:56] things* [14:56] zx10k1 (~nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:56] i think that for isolinux/iso.sort should be so as isolinux/isolinux.bin 200 ; isolinux 100 ; kernels 50 ; usb-and-pxe-installers 45 ; pasture 40 ; patches 35 ; slackware 30 ; testing 25 ; extra 20 ; source 10 [14:56] there is nothing natural about ubuntu surviving [14:56] aah we either have a (bad) attempt at trolling, or someone who can't get c-urrent to run. [14:56] pprkut: That's what it says in the readme. [14:56] your logic is FAIL [14:56] chatter, your trolling that fails [14:56] BP{k}: you ever hear of the linguistic invention of joking [14:56] going for coffe, bye [14:56] chatter: yes, have you? [14:57] it could speed up the DVD installation [14:57] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.96.142) joined ##slackware. [14:57] jkwood: *at runtime* [14:57] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC305CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:57] 2.6.33 is called KrashyKernel [14:57] sberthelot (~sberthelo@2002:52ea:963c:1::11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:57] jkwood: *and* it is the other way around [14:58] because the source 2GB (upper half DVD) is not used for DVD installation, only lower half DVD is used, so lesser seeks. [14:58] my 2.6.33 has an uptime roughly as long as that kernel's been out. [14:59] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [15:00] and it's very good for the bad laptop's DVD readers. [15:00] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-73-60.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:00] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:02] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:02] jkwood, i dont know if the problem is libpng [15:02] mancha, i try to compile amsn [15:02] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [15:04] v4nelle: amsn needs to be patched in order to compile in current [15:04] BrokenCog (~daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [15:04] for both libpng and libjpeg most likely [15:04] sahk0, i am going to llok for patch...thx [15:04] Hello folks. [15:06] v4nelle: although there was a March 8th amsn 0.98.3 release which might not need patches. you might wanna check that first [15:06] ok....thx again boy [15:07] v4nelle seems like libpng has updated some of its structures [15:08] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-79-85.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:08] i have zero problems with libpng [15:11] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.96.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:17] pprkut: ;) [15:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:18] sahk0, 0.98.3 works perfectly.... :) [15:18] great:) [15:18] perfect community....i love slackware :) [15:18] pprkut: Kernel built fine. Three thumbs up. [15:18] it doesnt have video support though as it says on the site [15:18] awesome :) [15:19] no mutants allowed! [15:19] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.123.197) joined ##slackware. [15:19] audio *&* video [15:20] then we hope to skype [15:22] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-79-85.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:26] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: =/ [15:26] v4nelle: http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master/good/ [15:26] Those virtualbox SlackBuilds work just fine on -current. [15:26] could some one point me to the slackware 64bit channel ? i can't find it listed in the Googlizer machine. [15:27] jkwood, thx....really nice job [15:27] v4nelle: I'm just the tester, pprkut did all the work. [15:27] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:27] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:28] perfect [15:28] then,i must thx and pprkut :) [15:28] BrokenCog: They support it here. What's up? [15:29] you're welcome :) [15:30] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-85-39.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:30] lol. thanks. i'm trying to get VB installed, however i'm also trying out the Alien Bob "upgrade" to 64bit. [15:30] *VB==VirtualBox [15:30] BrokenCog: I'm running with alienBOB's multilib stuff, and building a new version of VirtualBox now. [15:30] so, the VB .run script checks for x86_64 arch and backs off. [15:31] is today "install VirtualBox" day? [15:31] so, what are you building it of of ? [15:31] evidently VB is rising fast. [15:31] seen lots of people talking about it today [15:31] I'm using -current, but I built it on 13.0 as well. [15:31] i'm on 13.0 [15:31] If you run it as ARCH=x86_64 ./virtualbox.SlackBuild, it should work just fine. [15:31] which VB did you download ? and what did you do after taht ? [15:32] why build it? [15:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Oh, the .run script. [15:32] tank-man: it's all the rages nowadays ;) [15:32] the vbox installers that come with it work great [15:32] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:32] I use the OSE and build from source. [15:32] ah. okay. [15:32] Delahunt: The Windows 7 installer works great too, but I don't use that. [15:33] you miss my point [15:33] Talking about VM's.. has anyone managed to get vbox/qmeu on a 32bit host with a 64bit guest working on old hardware (read athlon xp 2800+) ? [15:33] what i don't like about the win7 intaller is it installed WinNUKE by default, doesn't ask you yes/no. [15:33] i've used vbox, the installers and uninstallers work fine [15:33] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.123.197) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:33] you really don't need a package [15:33] could you do me a favor -- post me the url to the source you used ? [15:33] BrokenCog: If you're interested, that link I posted a couple minutes ago have the build scripts I use. [15:33] (but if you really want one, sure) [15:34] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [15:34] http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master/good/ [15:34] are they the same SlackBuild scripts ? i have those, just not the source. [15:34] Delahunt: I really want one! :) [15:34] Updated for 3.1.4. [15:34] thats the Pi version? [15:34] I'm pretty sure that pprkut just updated the VERSION, but it's hard to tell with Sun. [15:35] nope. There's some fixes for building without Qt4 gui as well [15:35] mancha: depending on your degree of accuracy, today is pi day. [15:35] I tried to get the gtk gui working. Without luck [15:35] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC305CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:36] working with chromium on a netbook makes firefox look pathetic [15:37] that implies it doesn't elsewhere [15:37] jkwood:: do you happen to have the URL to the VB source ? [15:37] well yeah it is in general but on such machines its very noticable [15:37] BrokenCog: it's in the .info files [15:38] BrokenCog: source *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD [15:38] jkwood: almost ;) [15:38] Note that, for unknown reasons, sun tacks on a string of gibberish when you download things from them. [15:38] okay. so you really used the standard slackbuild. Thank you. I'll give it a try shortly. [15:39] pprkut: You have a better one-liner? [15:40] BrokenCog: Well, considering that pprkut maintains the standard SlackBuilds.org Virtualbox SlackBuiods... ;) [15:40] for i in $(echo $DOWNLOAD); do wget ${i} -O "$(basename ${i})"; done [15:40] That IS a better one-liner. [15:40] might be an even better one, but that's what I use [15:40] Mine does the trick, except for the whole random rename thing. [15:40] i don't lurk around here enough to know the names ... i should get to know them better, I admit. [15:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:41] I got really confused the first time I encountered multiple downloads in a .info file, but wget handled it fine. [15:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:41] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:41] BrokenCog: names are overrated :) [15:41] plutonium (~plutonium@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [15:44] overrated, but oh so useful you know ? [15:44] hehe [15:47] Gr1nch (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [15:47] pireau (1000@208.92.18.67) joined ##slackware. [15:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] out of the many things i wonder about the big bunch of updates in current lately is: 1) why didnt Pat update qt along with everything else and 2) why is mc still git built now that theres stable releases supporting xz [15:51] the mysteries of Slackware :) [15:52] qt is likely because of kde [15:52] 4.6 might not work well with kde 4.3 [15:52] doesnt 4.3.x build with qt-4.6? [15:52] yeah, maybe [15:52] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.170.186) joined ##slackware. [15:53] well, given the fact that it was released during the 4.4 development phase [15:53] and 4.4 had a lot of trouble keeping up with qt 4.6... [15:53] yeah but 4.6.2 and above solved all the issues with previous versions afaik [15:53] I would say, there's a chance it causes problems with 4.3 [15:54] and it was released before the updates in current [15:54] 4.6.2 has pretty bad rep amongst devs [15:54] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [15:55] not even alienBOB ships 4.6.2, altough (I might be wrong there) it was available at that time already [15:56] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: see ya! [15:56] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:57] At the time 4.6.1 was available, and it is the recommended version for KDE 4.4.x [15:57] i've refined isolinux/iso.sort: isolinux/isolinux.bin 200 ; isolinux 180 ; kernels 160 ; usb-and-pxe-installers 140 ; . 100 ; pasture 90 ; patches 80 ; slackware 70 ; testing 60 ; extra 50 ; pasture/source 40 ; testing/source 30 ; extra/source 20 ; source 10 [15:58] well sorted depending of their sizes / usability degree. [15:58] Rossonero (~Milanista@wana-50-244-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] tbh the only reason i was waiting for an update in qt was to test qt-webkit and try how it works [15:59] maybe i should update some installation to kde 4.4.x [15:59] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-85-39.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:00] alienBOB: I looked it up, 4.6.2 was released on Feb-15. But the point remains. I here devs complaining about it, so .1 is the best choice anyway IMHO :) [16:00] qt is kind of confusing lately anyway. is qt the same as kde-qt? [16:01] yes and no [16:01] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.4.212) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:01] kde-qt is qt with patches from the kde devs that are not yet accepted by the trolls [16:01] makes sense [16:02] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.98.217) joined ##slackware. [16:03] tsomi (~tsomi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-182-232.adsl.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1 [16:04] Blue-Slacker (blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:04] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-248-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:04] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:04] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:05] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:06] straw_hat (~robotics@robo.cs.fiu.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Excuse me, is there still any way to install Slackware from floppies? [16:06] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:07] I don't believe the 2.6 kernel fits on a floppy. [16:07] I should imagine if it was possible you'd need a lot of floppies [16:07] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-91-115.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [16:07] augusto (~augusto@189-041-11-023.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:08] Nick change: Gr1nch -> off_tr4mp0 [16:08] i must report that there is a problem with libdvdplay compiling on current... [16:08] I am trying to install GSB Gnome and am getting gpgme error message. [16:08] How do I install gnome on S13? [16:09] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [16:10] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.98.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:10] did you get the dependencies ? there are several. [16:11] "several" is an understatement. [16:11] I'm pretty sure there's a dependency chain for evolution that leads back to evolution. [16:11] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.170.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:12] jkwood, evolution is cyclic in nature 8-) [16:12] lol. i installed GSB, but not evolution. or atleast, i never tried using it to see if it ran. [16:13] is intelligent_design a dependency for evolution? [16:13] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:13] mancha: I'm 95% certain that there was no design whatsoever put into anything Gnome. [16:14] jkwood, i tried to make a funny :/ [16:14] mancha: So did I. ;) [16:15] hahaha [16:15] if intelligent design is a dependency for evolution i think they accidentally left that out 8-) [16:15] besides, God uses Xfce on Slackware-Current, don't you know? 8-) [16:16] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:16] chuck norris uses lxde [16:16] mancha: I actually had a conversation with God about Gnome once. He said "About ten years ago, there was a hard drive with gibberish on it. Lightning struck, and from the gibberish rose the first Gnome dependency." [16:16] jkwood, i actually had a conversation with a gnome once :) [16:16] chuck norris is not a light weight anything [16:17] 8-) [16:17] mancha: lol [16:17] Okay, I need to go to town and make a dpeosit. BL. [16:17] he uses god-light desktop environment: GLDE [16:17] s/light/like/ [16:17] just wait 'til KDE splits out every individual piece of software from the modules :> [16:18] hahaha [16:18] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@pool-71-187-100-159.nwrknj.east.verizon.net expired. [16:18] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@pool-71-187-100-159.nwrknj.east.verizon.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:18] ? [16:18] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-75-172.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [16:18] EvanR-work (~evan@wsip-98-175-17-4.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] is there a google chrome for slackware yet [16:18] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:19] yes. [16:19] W9ZEB (lars@74.63.111.214) left ##slackware. [16:19] the googlizer machine has a good link to it. [16:19] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [16:19] gonna have to check that. last time i tried i ended up having to reinstall several libs and in the end it still didnt work. *shakes fist at web cabal* [16:20] Evanr, therre's no stable google chrome for linux yet. there are pretty good beta snapshots released continuously in .rpm and .deb form [16:20] here is the compile problem wit libdvdplay http://pastebin.ca/1834515 [16:20] all you need to do is repackage it for slackware [16:20] i think thats the problem [16:20] the deps [16:20] incompatible with the ones already in slackware [16:20] you should be fine on the deps, i think most are static with the exception of cairo maybe [16:21] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-91-115.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:21] theres nss, glib, ill have to check on the rest [16:21] ie i think the beta snapshot has most stuff compiled into it. do you recall something not working? [16:21] oh right, nss you can provide through ff or seamonkey [16:21] yeah, the one that comes with slack (ff) wont link right [16:22] maybe thats fixed [16:22] Evan, are you sure? i did it a while back and had ann ok time of it [16:22] Chrome works fine here, just need to install GConf and it's deps. [16:22] alright [16:22] though if you want to be more circumspect, you can get chromium and compile that [16:22] i heard thats difficult [16:23] not difficult, just time consuming to dl, the source code you have to dl is like a gazillion megs [16:23] http://pastebin.com/69KLnM0G [16:23] heh, gnome slackbuild [16:23] Can someone help me with Gnome installation? [16:24] kleanchap: join #gsb [16:24] on a related note, a woman in nyc now has $3.5 million and four breasts [16:24] No matter what I do I keep getting the gpgme error msg. [16:25] mancha: a hooker? she would be pretty popular. especially for people into group sex [16:25] or is that how she made the millions? [16:26] she made her missions from a malpractice suit on the doctor who gave her 2 extra boobs [16:26] missions=millions [16:27] did he put them on her back or something? [16:27] the technical term,in case you wanna google: double bubble deformities [16:27] nessundo1ma (~mike@78.134.119.234) joined ##slackware. [16:28] 4 breasts i'd wanna see, double bubble deformities i don't [16:28] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:28] Skywise: oh the fickleness of english... [16:29] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:29] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:30] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:31] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) joined ##slackware. [16:31] is xmms still shipped with slackware [16:31] yes it is [16:31] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-75-172.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:31] nice [16:33] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:33] isolinux/iso.sort for Slackware 32-bit & 64-bit --> http://pastebin.com/FLeRnqKw [16:34] eldragon: really? [16:36] yes thumbs [16:36] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:39] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-136-165.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [16:41] would slackware be able to support later wireless adapters on laptops that are 1 year old [16:41] cos i've heard about linux kernels not supporting some [16:45] Have you guys had any luck getting bluetooth headset working in 13.0? [16:46] stuart: if your kernel does not have that driver, but linux in general has the driver, then you can rebuild your kernel [16:47] guys, i have a problem with my httpd server in slackware64: httpd does not start if i enable ssl ...i try to rebuild it in order it sees the right path the ssl module, but it still doesn't [16:47] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:48] paissad_: whats error_log say [16:48] i did a grep in the log of strace httpd -X -> http://pastebin.ca/1834542 & here is my slackbuild http://slackbuilds.paissad.net/httpd/httpd.SlackBuild [16:48] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:48] error_log ? [16:48] chatter, yes, that's another problem ... i don't have any message in error.log for 7hours now ^^ [16:49] its not error.log [16:49] http://dailyshite.com/2009/12/happy-in-paraguay-fucked-up-star-trek-parody/ [16:49] chatter, i changed to error.log ^^ ... it did work for days before i got the problem [16:49] tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log [16:49] chatter, http://pastebin.ca/1834555 [16:49] something happend here and slackbuild dont make the package...after compile it stops...why? http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/libraries/libdvdplay/libdvdplay.SlackBuild [16:50] paissad_: looks like someone tried to hack you? [16:51] chatter, i thought that for a moment but i'm not sure :( [16:51] paissad_, few days ago i had the same logs....somebody try to find our phmyadmin page [16:51] & then ... [16:52] you say it starts fine without ssl? [16:52] nothing....he couldnt find it :p [16:52] v4nelle: http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#bash4 [16:52] admin admin ;) [16:52] DBAmethyst (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:52] chaching [16:52] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:52] v4nelle: more fun is to make a 404 page that changes the header to 200 OK and returns random garbage [16:53] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) joined ##slackware. [16:53] lol [16:53] paissad_: it starts fine without SSL enabled? [16:54] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: \o\ /o/ \o/ [16:54] chatter, yes it starts fine wihtout ssl ... [16:54] did you install the 64 bit packages for everything or what [16:54] chatter, except i hav)e no messages in /var/log/error.log (weither ssl enabled or not [16:54] you are missing 64-compat crap for it? [16:55] ?? [16:56] if you get no messages in error_log thats the first thing you should figure out [16:56] disable SSL and get it logging errors again [16:56] yes, i know ... chatter , but as i said i have no loggin errors even if i disable ssl [16:57] figure out why? [16:57] check permissions? [16:57] chatter, i do not have the errors log for 7hours now [16:57] chown apache:apache /var/log/httpd/* -R [16:58] chatter, nothing changed ^^ [16:59] /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd restart [16:59] chatter, the server write its logs in all files except in error.log .... really really weird [16:59] chatter, i restarted already ^^ [16:59] gnight [16:59] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-hccmhupyqisnzips) left irc: Quit: Page closed [17:00] DBAmethyst (~panzer@69-29-105-1.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] so, i just tried to build the latest chromium. everything built fine without any errors, but startup gives me that 'ole libnss-3.12 not found. [17:00] paissad_: do you have a certificate to use with mod_ssl? [17:00] chatter, httpd does write in /var/log/httpd/{access,ssl_access,ssl_request}.log .... but not in error.log [17:00] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: reboot [17:00] pprkut, yes i do have a cert & key [17:00] they are ok [17:00] BrokenCog: do you have that file [17:00] paissad_: and you pointed the config to those? [17:01] pprkut, yes i did, [17:01] let me post you my httpd & vhost+ssl confs [17:01] i figured the slackbuild script installed it ... let me check. [17:01] how can i get ps to show niceness [17:01] oh wait .. [17:01] are you talking about the access log file ? [17:02] BrokenCog: i had the same problem [17:02] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:02] paissad_: ok. Just asking. That's the error I associate with that behaviour, so I just wanted to make sure :) [17:02] never mind, top -b worked [17:02] BrokenCog: nss is supposed to be in the firefox package, but that one and the one needed by chromium are incompatible [17:02] ErrorLog "/var/log/httpd/error_log"nLogLevel warn [17:03] it's got a link to seamonkey's folder, so i guessed it wasn't liking the version it finds there. [17:03] ok seamonkey [17:03] chatter, http://pastebin.ca/1834573 [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-244.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] either way ... is there a working version around ? for libnss ? [17:05] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-psijxrfapgfnifjf) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [17:06] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::538d) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:06] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gejmcmsulqlpfgyo) joined ##slackware. [17:06] paissad_: see if any of those files are in lib64/ [17:06] guaxinim (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:06] chatter, even if i put error_log (default) instead of error.log in my httpd.conf ... the file is not created ! [17:07] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [17:07] chatter, all modules are in lib64, i checked [17:08] thats strange [17:08] chatter, httpd -t -D DUMP_MODULES | wgetpaste [17:08] Syntax OK [17:08] Your paste can be seen here: http://pastebin.ca/1834581 [17:09] so what broke it [17:09] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [17:09] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] chatter, i just don't know what broke it ^^ ... i have absolutely no idea mate [17:10] all modules are loaded [17:10] but, wait 1 minute plz [17:10] well my /var/log/httpd files are all owned by root:root 755 [17:11] why would you have +x on log files? [17:11] well the directory [17:11] does anyone here know of a cli pdf reader? or should I be looking for something like a pdf to html converter to use along with links? [17:11] the files are 644 i guess [17:11] zaltekk: pdftotext ? [17:12] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:12] chatter, 644 and 755 are common. [17:12] chatter: hmm. how does it handle formating and images? [17:12] chatter, i knew that all files may be owned by root:root, but np [17:12] strace httpd -X 2>&1 | grep "No such file or directory" | wgetpaste [17:12] Your paste can be seen here: http://pastebin.ca/1834587 [17:12] zaltekk: no images, formatting is pretty good [17:12] zal, most pdfs are image-based, you usually won't get sugar i'm afraid [17:12] zaltekk, i dont know of one but i cant see it looking good in cli with no way to see the images etc. it would look horrible [17:12] mancha: i've noticed that, but bought ones tend to have real text :) [17:12] $call = 'pdftotext -layout -nopgbrk "'.$directory.$file.'" "'.$directory.$textdirectory.$file.'.txt" '; [17:13] most of the books i read don't have images anyway [17:13] zal, yes for the ones with lots of text, and/or ocr layers, you'll do better [17:13] hmm, cacaview would be fun with PDF images [17:13] gimmicky, but neat [17:13] ive converted tons of pdf files....pdftotext works pretty damn well [17:13] doesn't links have image support? [17:14] links -g ? [17:14] juan--d-_-b (juan--d-_@201.244.107.172) left ##slackware. [17:14] that is why i was thinking pdf->html might be best [17:14] nah [17:14] i've not messed with that myself, i think links merely calls other image viewers [17:14] but yeah, there's link and elinks' graphical modes [17:15] pdf->html would allow links within the document to still work, too. as long as the conversion program supports them. [17:15] paissad_: no idea...i'd start over if i were you, move your old conf files and see if that fixes logs...check the permissions on yourlog files or delete them all [17:15] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gejmcmsulqlpfgyo) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [17:15] zaltekk: you can try your theory in about 5 minutes....pdf->html sucks [17:16] chatter, what about removing apache & reinstall it again ? [17:16] cleaner but ... [17:16] paissad_: yeah, but you still need to clean up anything that might be fubar [17:16] like what ? [17:16] move the old crap and reinstall [17:17] how do I install eclipse on SL-current? [17:17] mv /var/log/httpd/ /tmp/ mv /etc/httpd/ /tmp/ or something liek that [17:17] kleanchap: It's on SlackBuilds.org. [17:17] eclipse is the ide? [17:18] yeth [17:19] biker (~biker@201.130.158.55.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:20] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) joined ##slackware. [17:20] okay i'll have to compile this USB-Creator program from source because it isn't in slackbuilds [17:20] my question is, how do i uninstall it later on? [17:20] Intel[R]VT-x (~IntelR]VT@112.135.3.59) joined ##slackware. [17:20] see if it supports DESTDIR [17:20] stuart: create a pkg of it, or keep the sources to make uninstall [17:21] stuart: Write a SlackBuild. =) [17:21] or tee the make install and keep that to know what files to nuke [17:21] trhodes, how do i see that [17:21] grep DESTDIR Makefile - or summutz [17:21] see if make uninstall works [17:22] I really tried to donate twice to Slackware via Paypal but the money never got claimed. What happed to the Slackware store? [17:22] sometimes it does [17:23] i tried compiling a program from source once and i couldn't make uninstall it, how do i see if make uninstall works or not [17:23] kleanchap: Slackware doesnt accept donations via paypal. use your credit card in store.slackware.com [17:23] hi all here is my first opengl glut tutorial if you have tools compile and see : http://sandundhammika.wordpress.com/opengl-glut-under-windows-first-program/ [17:23] stuart: it doesnt work if make uninstall doesnt work.... [17:23] stuart: you can look for uninstall in the makefile [17:23] trone (~sim@host58-56-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:23] chatter, is there any way to know that before make install? [17:23] Intel[R]VT-x: under windows? [17:23] Under windows? [17:24] stuart: type make uninstall [17:24] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:24] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:24] k, sec. [17:24] stuart: also, you can package things pretty easily with a VM + slacktrack [17:24] Intel[R]VT-x: your star of david is not kosher [17:24] also try src2pkg [17:25] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:25] I have slackware 13.0. I'm looking for webkit lib, but I don't find in slack-repos. I'm right? Is ok get it from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/webkit/ or there are other good way? [17:26] trone: install sbopkg if you want to use the slackbuild [17:26] trone: That would be the best way. [17:26] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:26] trhodes, what's VM [17:27] chatter: Not necessary. It may be nice, but not necessary. [17:27] chatter: ah, ok. I'm new on slack and don't know sbopkg. :) check for it. [17:27] jkwood: duh [17:27] jkwood: Indeed I would keep slack more clean that I can. :) [17:27] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.83.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:27] It's good to understand how to use a SlackBuild apart from sbopkg. I'd think even chess would agree with that. [17:27] (virtual machine) [17:28] its not exactly rocket science [17:28] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [17:28] most of these automated packaging tools benefit you better when you have knowledge of what they're actually doing for you [17:29] s/most/all [17:29] haha, ok ;) [17:29] :) [17:29] Action: chatter goes to study rpm and deb [17:30] that way i can fix it when the repo/depres breaks my entire system right right [17:30] trone: maybe you could also use alienBOBs packages: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/webkitgtk/ [17:30] yes [17:30] stuart winter's fosdem presentation is a good intro to slackware package "standards" (there's not much to it) [17:30] chatter: That's easy: They break the system when you uninstall a text editor. [17:31] dependency hell is alive and well [17:31] its hard to do anything on debian without it stopping you [17:31] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:31] stuart: http://connie.slackware.com/~mozes/docs/slackware_pkg_presentation.pdf [17:31] and say, here is a hoop! jump! [17:31] ah? [17:32] stuart: http://www.ln-s.net/5Ba7 for the google viewer version [17:32] guaxinim (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] stuart: http://slaxer.com/myscripts/sbsuite.rb if you're so inclined. [17:35] trhodes: theres a video of that presentation in youtube btw. ~90 mins IIRC [17:35] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:35] tommys_knockers (~sisssss@212.183.140.21) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:36] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:36] Nick change: Stx_ -> Stx [17:36] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [17:37] what is the VM i'll need for slacktrack [17:38] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:38] you can use qemu or virtualbox [17:39] there are others too, but I think both of them already have slackbuilds [17:39] sahk0: thanks :) [17:42] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [17:42] kay why would i need virtualbox for slacktrack? [17:42] sahk0: alienBOB repos? I will check also them (Don't understand well the differences between more repos) [17:43] well you don't strictly need a VM, you just need an unused slackware machine [17:43] the VM gets you a clean setup and an unused machine quite nicely [17:43] trhodes: repos. with slackbuilds. you can install them. alienBOB maintains a lot of slackbuilds. [17:43] drat! [17:44] haha, it's ok ;) [17:44] you have nickfail - choose one that doesn't start with tr! [17:44] oh i see [17:44] trone: keep in mind that theres no dependency resolution there as well. i dont know how alienBOB suggests to figure those out. for example webkitgtk only has them in the source/*required file [17:44] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [17:44] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] sahk0: indeed, you have to read the slack-required inside the package, or the .dep file next to the package [17:45] sahk0: the readme usually lists any [17:45] oh, i thought i remember it was in the README. maybe not for all [17:45] can i makepkg the source file for easy removal later, without slacktrack? [17:45] for all proper slack packages, it's in the README [17:45] No, only at slackbuilds.org the READMEs contain the dependency info [17:45] only on sbo ? [17:45] ah well [17:45] stuart: slacktrack is almost never necessary [17:45] those ARE the only proper ones AFAIAC :) [17:46] adaptr: have it your way [17:46] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:46] tylr (~tylr@unaffiliated/tylr) joined ##slackware. [17:46] yay bash 4 [17:46] alienBOB, okay then, but what's the best way to remove this program after i install it? i just wanna use this program once [17:47] i like src2pkg for such things [17:47] alienBOB: I thought you maintained sbo packages [17:47] That is a good alternative yes [17:47] adaptr: no [17:47] he maintains slackware packages :) [17:47] I maintain my own packages on slackware.com/~alien [17:47] And I am a slackbuilds.org admin [17:48] And I did a lot of work on the official Slackware scripts too, yes [17:48] okay, never been there - none of them on sbo, or all of them bleedinger-edge than sbo ? [17:48] trhodes: Technically, for personal use, you can build SlackBuilds on a production machine. [17:49] I usually do all my building on my latpop, then make sure it works in a vanilla slack VM. [17:49] of course. you dont even need a chroot:) [17:49] ok [17:49] The compiling is much faster unvirtualized, and it lets me discover problems with the script more easily. [17:49] yes, VM compiling sucks [17:50] I would never submit a SlackBuild to SBo without testing it in a clean environment, for example. [17:50] adaptr: I have a different philosophy than slackbuilds.org, for my own personal SlackBuild scripts. that is why you will not find many of mine on SB.o [17:51] alienBOB: and what is that difference? [17:51] is the philosophy public ? [17:51] haha right, i do lots of quick and dirty things that don't belong on SBo :) [17:51] zaltekk: alienBOB knows a good SlackBuild when he sees it, he just doesn't write them. ;) [17:52] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [17:52] For that matter, I do stuff in some of my builds that wouldn't fly on SBo. Multilib support is a biggie. [17:52] zaltekk: for example Sbo scripts dont produce build logs by default [17:52] not even while building ? [17:53] <3 alienBOB [17:53] yes, his repo is awesome :) [17:53] zaltekk: look at mine vs. the ones at slackbuilds.org.... lots of differences. For instance, mine automatically download sources, do git checkouts, configure all kinds of stuff in the post-install scripts, do all kinds of logging, etc... [17:54] You won't find http://slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build/vlc.SlackBuild on slackbuilds.org for instance... [17:54] They also install the rootkit rworkman uses to handle dependencies on end-users machines. [17:55] Hehe [17:55] alienBOB: hmm, okay. so they do extra work that isn't usually included on Sbo? [17:55] Yes [17:55] nessundo1ma (~mike@78-134-69-119.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [17:55] it's saved me lots of time :) [17:56] The scripts at SB.o should be easy to understand and use, and a tool like sbopkg adds a lot of automation to the build process [17:56] My scripts are not meant to be easy to understand... they are meant to teach you shell programming ;-) [17:56] hm, anyway i can't seem to ./configure after extracting the source [17:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] jeebus - a slackbuild you can measure in LOCs [17:57] stuart: Standby. [17:57] it's really amazing to see pkgtool the official package manager was written in bash in 100 % really amazing !! [17:57] is it sh ? [17:58] should be [17:58] Pretty sure it's sh. [17:58] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.119.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:58] stuart: Do you have a web link for that program? [17:58] Nick change: nessundo1ma -> nessundorma [17:58] Action: adaptr votes for bush - Bourne's Ultimatum Shell [17:59] (which is more amazing than bash, IMO :) ) [17:59] alienBOB, I guess you have participate in pkgtool development ;) [17:59] Rossonero: almost not actually... only some small fixes [17:59] adaptr: I do most of my scripting in Ruby now. I'm considering rewriting Slackware's package tools in it, out of curiosity. [18:00] jkwood, https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liveusb-creator/liveusb-creator-3.9.tar.bz2 [18:00] k [18:00] so definitely pretty basically nearly approximately, then [18:00] im pretty sure that needs gnome [18:00] jkwood, ohhhhhhhhh ruby the most beautiful language [18:00] it's red ? [18:00] so cute :P [18:00] now i tried makepkg'ing after make, but it says Can't make output in current directory? [18:00] what is liveusb-creator s'posed to do ? [18:00] Anyone here know how to get shells to stop printing 5D and 5C on ctrl+left and ctrl+right respectively? [18:01] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.98) joined ##slackware. [18:01] trhodes, make a live bootable usb [18:01] there is surely another way [18:01] NaCl: bind them [18:01] NaCl: edit your inputrc [18:01] stuart: I suspect it uses a different build system than autotools. Reading now. [18:01] Action: adaptr needs to do that too [18:01] jkwood, kay [18:01] They were auto-bound the last time I tried this. :/ [18:01] NaCl: you're using bash / readline ? [18:01] yes [18:02] presumily -> inputrc [18:02] How do I activate the changes? [18:02] stuart, use the previous DIR (makepkg ../package-version-arch-version.tgz ) [18:02] NaCl: they were doing what alt+f alt+b do ? (it seems weird to me, that's all) [18:02] NaCl: reload bash ? [18:02] trhodes: nothing [18:02] Oh, it's PYTHON [18:03] Starting new shells does not help [18:03] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-69-119.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:03] stuart: Try setup.py [18:03] alienBOB, what's your occupation in life after slackware dev ? [18:03] alt+f and alt+b (or meta) go forward and backward a word, respectively [18:03] jkwood, how would i uninstall it later? [18:03] Or better "setyp.py install" stuart [18:03] stuart: not [18:03] setup.py uninstall [18:04] Rossonero: I work for IBM [18:04] NaCl: that's what your ctrl+arrow keys were doing ? [18:04] alienBOB, as ? [18:04] yes [18:04] NaCl: what term were you using? [18:04] konsole [18:04] so what would've happened if i just compiled this python from source? [18:04] hba (~hba@148.208.237.69) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:04] trhodes: same behavior in xterm [18:04] NaCl: echo $TERM [18:05] xterm [18:05] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:05] NaCl: and you didn't change inputrc ? [18:05] I did. [18:05] But nothing seems to be happening [18:05] NaCl: sorry, i'm just trying to understand what's up.... that's all [18:05] ok [18:06] Should be .inputrc? [18:06] Rossonero: Linux & OSS consultant, but currently working as UNIX specialist / helpdesk controller at one of our customers (ASML) [18:06] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] jkwood: yes [18:06] hm, setup.py = command not found, or ./setup.py: permission denied [18:06] I did edit it, nothing happened. [18:06] NaCl: you have an /etc/inputrc, too ? [18:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:06] stuart: python setup.py [18:06] alienBOB, great [18:07] tylr (~tylr@unaffiliated/tylr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:07] stuart: "python setup.py install" [18:07] trhodes: yes [18:07] NaCl: and the the perms are ok on the dotfile ? [18:07] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] 644 should be fine [18:07] NaCl: maybe kill -HUP $$ #? [18:07] stuart: but looking at the dependencies, the build will probably fail [18:08] alienBOB: have you read IBM and the Holocaust ? [18:08] NaCl: i remember you sayin this a while back and it piqued my interest [18:08] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.240) joined ##slackware. [18:08] IBM contracts him out [18:08] chatter: yes [18:08] niceee [18:08] trhodes: yesterday. :P [18:08] trhodes: that murdered my shell [18:08] edwin black right? also wrote war against the weak and the transfer agreement [18:09] amazing researcher [18:09] tltstc` (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] It is historical, but IBM today is not the same as IBM 70 years ago [18:09] NaCl: what do you think caused this keybinding to change ? upgrade ? (i forget what you said about it) [18:09] bash 4 [18:09] oh ok [18:09] But the same thing happens in zsh [18:09] alienBOB: same as ford :p [18:09] stty [18:09] (i <3 zsh :) ) [18:10] NaCl: try stty -a [18:10] see if that tells you more [18:10] what am I looking for? :P [18:10] alienBOB, hm you were right. now how do i uninstall this since python setup.py uninstall doesn't seem to work [18:10] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org [18:11] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:11] stuart: reformat :p [18:11] chatter, not again haha [18:11] python unsetup.py uninstall [18:11] NaCl: not sure :P but i'm investigating as well (i get the 5D junk with ctrl + arrow) [18:12] I don't think anything was installed at all yet, stuart [18:12] stuart: python setup.py help might help. [18:12] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:12] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:12] gregsparc_ (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [18:12] trhodes: man stty mentions nothing related to this. [18:12] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [18:12] alienBOB: can you get me a jaerb at ibm [18:12] That just makes ^C go away from bash 4, though. [18:13] stty -echoctl [18:13] Which was one of my problems [18:13] NaCl: yes, that's why this is weird. afaik, stty shouldn't affect movement at all [18:13] yeah that ctrl + c was annoyin [18:14] Ctrl-C has double semantic: "to copy the selected object" or "to abort the program", it's furiously ambiguous. [18:15] shift ctrl+c is nice [18:15] copy only in gui programs [18:15] yes. [18:15] but CUA is not unix [18:15] whats shift ctrl+c [18:15] copy in many xterms [18:15] gnome and xfce terminal use it for CUA copy [18:15] same with kde [18:15] hmmm [18:15] trhodes: That's the worst recursive acronym I've ever seen. [18:15] in fact, they just use shift with common keybindings [18:15] haha, what ?! [18:16] i like alt + left click [18:16] common user access or somethin' ? [18:16] in xfce at least [18:16] oh, CUA is no UNIX :P [18:16] *not [18:16] hush u [18:16] trhodes: I've done everything I can think of right now, I'm going to go back to work. [18:17] hmm, i'm thinkin' about it :) it's interesting [18:17] how to disambiguate Ctrl-C ? [18:17] seems like it's not a shell thing [18:17] alienBOB: gief me a jaerb! [18:17] eldragon: you can change it with stty if you really want to [18:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [18:18] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [18:18] chatter: ctrl + left click drag (in xfce terminal) for block select is pretty cool [18:19] trhodes: i dont use xfce terminal [18:19] but i use xterm...ctrl + any of 3 mouse buttons = WTF hax [18:19] ahh ok [18:20] no conflict in good old xterm, selecting = copying, ^C is passed through to whatever you're running [18:20] i like how fast xterm "feels" compared to the more bloated ones, but I just can't bring myself to use it [18:20] really? why not? [18:20] laptops make that copy select difficult for me [18:20] it's the ur-wheel that everyone keeps reinventing [18:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] URL highlighting and MDI I like (well, i don't need MDI) [18:21] xterm ftw [18:21] what have you got, trackpad? those are always horrible (especially after they get finger oils ground into them over a couple years use) [18:21] i have 7 open :/ [18:21] what term does slackware use instead of repository [18:21] oobe: suppository [18:21] yes, and a couple machines (acers) have bad buttons [18:22] oh ok [18:22] GOD BLESS YOU ALL MATES [18:22] ty [18:22] oobe: It's a repository. [18:22] paissad_: did you fix it [18:22] were I buying a laptop, I'd be looking for one with a trackpoint (or whatever the non-IBM terminology is: the rubber nib in the middle of the keyboard) [18:22] chatter, is it a shame to say that i took a day to solve the matter ? [18:22] Urchlay: I am using one now [18:22] that's why i'm rehabilitating an old thinkpad 600EX :) [18:22] once you get used to it, the trackpoint's as accurate as a mouse [18:22] And yes, it's called a TrackPoint [18:22] paissad_: most likely....what was it [18:23] and doesn't do ESP on your hand when you hand hovers near it [18:23] only called that on IBM laptops, the sony/toshiba/etc knockoffs can't use IBM's name [18:23] Urchlay: I find that the trackpoint is much more versatile than a mouse [18:23] me, I call it "the clitoris", but that's not really a marketing-friendly term... [18:23] multitouch is the only (partially) redeeming feature to touchpads [18:24] chatter, actually the matter was about my personnal vhosts i enabled in http.conf --> /etc/httpd/extra/paissad-vhosts/enabled/ [18:24] alienBOB: I've got 2 or 3 non-laptop keyboards made by IBM that have a trackpoint, used to use them all the time [18:24] My thumb on the middle-mouse button, the index finger on the little clit, and I have full freedom in mouse moves as well as window scrolling (horizontal as well as vertical scroll) [18:24] and you're on homerow :) [18:25] chatter, now, i disabled some of my vhosts & the matter is solved ... now i will see what was the real problem [18:25] fg [18:25] lol, i foreground (i thought i was on a terminal) ^^ [18:25] paissad_: at least you didn't type "su -", then your root password... [18:25] that can be rather embarrassing [18:26] Urchlay, yes °!° [18:26] hunter2 [18:26] i have ^Z to do fg :) [18:26] DARN YOU AND YOUR CONVINCING HACKING WAYS! [18:26] jkwood: stop saying ******* in here! [18:27] hunter2? [18:27] shhh [18:27] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:27] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:28] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:30] hunter2 is my password wtf [18:30] Urchlay, i didn't know you were still alive [18:31] Action: NaCl gets it now [18:31] ls [18:31] hi [18:31] rm -rf /* [18:31] oops, thought i was in a terminal [18:32] $ rm -rf / [18:32] rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/' [18:32] chatter: one more and you'll get a ban [18:32] NaCl, try cd / && rm -rf * [18:32] a nun, a priest, and an alien walk into a bar.... [18:32] eldragon: That will say permission denied. I am not root. :P [18:33] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [18:33] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:33] The alien screws the nun and eats the priest for breakfast [18:33] Action: jkwood waits for it. [18:33] put NO HUMOR in the topic pl0x [18:33] jeev: I'm dead, Jim [18:33] or JOEKS = BAN [18:34] Posting harmful commands unescaped is not considered humorous at all chatter [18:34] Action: NaCl launches Urchlay in a photon torpedo casing. [18:34] NaCl: while someone plays "amazing grace" on bagpipes? [18:34] Of course [18:34] We couldn't afford Amazing Grace. Are you down with the Hokey Pokey? [18:35] Action: Urchlay tries to claw his way through the coffin [18:35] Action: NaCl presses the Blinking Red Button (R) [18:37] why is testing/CHECKSUMS.md5 failing? [18:37] eldragon: mirror halfway done updating when you retrieved it maybe? [18:38] i'd wait until after re-entry before trying to get out of the coffin [18:38] Urchlay, i think that it's not between updates. [18:38] just a wild guess [18:39] GooseYArd (~bailey@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:39] i'll try to get testing/CHECKSUMS.md5 again [18:39] gobble [18:40] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] bleah, nothing more annoying than this... main.C:20:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory [18:40] then install iostream.h? [18:40] ;x [18:40] you want iostream.hpp [18:40] it exists, the newer g++ compilers have decided to require you to write: #include [18:41] Most people I see just use iostream sans the .h [18:41] yah [18:41] has anyone benchmarked 32-bit slackware vs 64-bit [18:41] on same hardware [18:41] hi all. after updating to current when i double click to jpeg images gqview opens and keeps closing immediately. (xfce4.6.1). if i $gqview mypicture.jpeg it keeps the window opened. [18:41] chatter, i planned to use slackware 64-bit on host and windows xp sp2 on guest. [18:42] it just annoys me that code written to what was then considered the standard (using "#include ") can't be compiled without patching on a modern g++ [18:42] eldragon: derp? [18:42] 32-bit guest under xen-4.0.0rcX [18:42] 10 years really isn't all that long [18:42] chatter: 64-bit will be faster, 32-bit will use less memory. [18:42] and the compiler could be made smart enough to try again without the .h [18:42] Urchlay: its been #include using namespace std; forever [18:42] the guest is for playing crappy apps [18:43] yah i dont remember any std headers ever having a .h extension on unix [18:43] "forever" seems to be a much shorter time in computer years than in normal ones, though [18:43] Urchlay: that's funny, i just got bit by that this week [18:43] ananke: on crufty old code? [18:44] perl's Inline::CPP calls for iostream.h, rather than iostream [18:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) joined ##slackware. [18:44] yeah [18:44] and yes, CPP stands for C++. [18:44] didn't know there was such a module, I've used Inline::C before, it's pretty neat [18:45] the guest windows xp sp2 32-bit is for electronic devices (photocameras, videocameras, etc.), i've not time for reverse engineering, so that virtualization is my way to follow. [18:45] yeah, one of our research groups uses it. or at least some of the people they employed in the past have used it in their code [18:45] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:46] me, I wish there was an Inline::6502Assembly :) [18:46] (actually no... but I'm just sick enough that I might write one) [18:47] on the subject of breakage, just this week i was bitten by yet another 'hey, we're going to change the way things work' in software. bash 4 acts a bit different than bash 3, and no longer searches current path when you source things [18:47] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:47] hm, not even if $PATH contains "."? [18:47] ananke you try setting bash3 compat mode? [18:47] Jeffroman (~jeffroman@mail.jacksonhilliard.com) joined ##slackware. [18:48] chatter: volkderdi benchmarked Slackware64 against the 32-bit current, after I had completed my first usable version of the 64-bit system. When he saw the differences, that was when he actively started supporting my slackware64 build and ran it as the default OS soon after [18:48] or if you "source ./whatever", that still works? [18:48] Urchlay: that would work, if dell didn't do sanity checks and unset $PATH [18:48] dell? [18:48] Urchlay: yes, it does. or calling the script with #!/bin/bash rather than #!/bin/sh [18:48] There are speed increases especially when running computational programs [18:48] so whats the verdict slack or slack64? [18:48] Hmm? [18:48] alienBOB: i stick with 32bit because.........less headache? [18:48] Whatever suits your hardware best [18:49] Urchlay: yes, dell's firmware. are you familiar with how they provide firmware/bios updates that are self contained archives? [18:49] A good reason chatter [18:49] please, correct testing/CHECKSUMS.md5 once that testing/bash/ was removed. [18:49] What issues did you have with the slackware64? [18:49] i have dual opteron 244s with 1mb cache [18:49] how much ram? [18:49] ananke: no, no idea... you mean they're shell archives like nvidia's silly .run files? and they don't work with bash4? ugh... [18:49] Jeffroman: how much memory do you have, and how long do you expect that setup to live? [18:50] ill be running it in vm [18:50] i have 4 gb [18:50] Urchlay: yeah. well, you can unpack them, but inside there is a ton of different files. you have libraries, binaries, shell scripts, etc. so now every shell script they have, which sources other scripts in that dir [which is essentially every firmware update], does not work with bash4 [18:50] ill keep it until it warrants replacement [18:50] chatter: and do you want to use wine, skype, virtualbox or any closed source app that only exists in 32bitS? [18:50] it wont be my primary os [18:51] just need linux for the occasion [18:51] virtualbox is 64bit too [18:51] I didn't know dell or anyone else actually gave you the option of upgrading firmware from within linux, that's pretty cool [18:51] Jeffroman: it's easier to pick an architecture now, and stick to it, than to switch it later on [18:51] vmware fusion is too [18:51] slackware64 can run 32bit apps, but you need to install multilib [18:51] Urchlay: ohh yeah, dell had that available for many years now. libmsbios is their invention [18:51] zaltekk: i know, but seens that the binary package requires 32bit some something (dont know exactly what) [18:52] the binary package doesn't require 32bit anything [18:52] building the open source version requires multilib because it also builds 32bit guest tools [18:53] hm how do i configure iwconfig [18:53] zaltekk: haven't they got a --disable-guest-tools option yet? [18:53] iwlist scan says lo, eth0, and pan0 doesn't support scanning [18:53] Urchlay: not to mention you can either apply each update individually, via that individual package, or you can use a cli/gui frontend and apply all firmware/bios updates at once [18:53] I mean, you don't *need* them, and/or you can download the prebuilt guest tools if you do [18:53] Urchlay: i'm not sure...i remember playing with it for a few minutes, but I didn't see any easy way [18:54] Jeffroman: linux in a vm is blasphemy! [18:54] GooseYArd (~bailey@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.10 -- Are we there yet? [18:54] vms are for non-essentials [18:54] chatter: orly? [18:55] chatter, exactly [18:55] Jeffroman: may i call you vistard? [18:55] chatter, but for work its good to have a toolbox of oses you can pull from [18:55] vms are for many things. let's not bundle together a recreational desktop use with the rest of the world of computing [18:56] chatter, sure! [18:56] BrokenCog (~daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:56] Where the heck did all these offensive people come from? [18:56] Action: alienBOB builds his 32-bit packages for Slackware inside a VM [18:56] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:56] jkwood: full moon perhaps? [18:57] No, not yet [18:57] I know usenet is a collection of servers with news groups but how do I get a usenet account or get connected with it? [18:57] i'm dreading the end of school year. then we'll get a nice influx [18:57] it's my partition for 500GB HD: /boot 256MiB (xen's hypervisors + kernels + fsck.ext4 + badblocks) ; swap 16 GiB ; primary / 8GiB excluding /home, /tmp and /opt ; secondary / 8 GiB excluding /home, /tmp and /opt ; hundreds GiB for /home, /tmp linked to /home/tmp, /opt linked to /home/opt ; 80 GiB for WinXP 32-bit SP2 C: ; 24 GiB D: ; 2 GiB E: for pagefile.sys. The primary and secondary / is for updating slackware OS without updating the current statu [18:57] s of /home (no need for backup). I'll do my own snapshot backup of C: w/o touching D: . [18:58] alienBOB: how long did it take to build all of kde 4.4.1 in a vm? [18:58] sec0nd: start with your isp, they may have usenet servers you could subscribe to [18:58] incl. deps and stuff [18:58] jkwood: the offensive people are my children [18:58] eldragon: linking? why bother? why not use lvm instead of hacking around? [18:58] killa genetics. [18:58] sahk0: too long [18:59] acidchild: I somehow believe it. [18:59] ;D [18:59] why not create a 32bit chroot? [18:59] it seems much easier [18:59] pretty much the only way to get unpruned access will be to go through a commercial usenet provider (ISP servers most likely filter out alt.binaries.*, which is almost certainly what anyone just now getting into usenet is interested in...) [18:59] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:59] But I let it run at work in the background and froze the VM when it was time to go home, so I could resume at home [18:59] sahk0, you can do that [18:59] alienBOB: Epic. [18:59] and how do i see which device my wireless device is, wlan0, etc etc [18:59] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) joined ##slackware. [19:00] ananke, because i wanna waste 80+80GiB partitions, instead i'll use 80 GiB + alpha GiB of compressed incremental snapshot. [19:00] sahk0: I do have a chrooted 64-bit build environment though [19:00] Urchlay produces monster also [19:00] stuart, are you talking about in a vm? [19:00] i mean on my laptop [19:00] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:00] we need lsnet utility, something ala lsusb/lspci/lscsi. something that would map network interface to a driver/etc [19:00] acidchild: eh? you weren't supposed to know about my attempt to play god... [19:00] I didn't mean for him to be a monster [19:01] tis okey, can't blame a man for trying [19:01] eldragon: well, have fun [19:02] i've to implement a program that use MD5s of 4KiB blocks for snapshoting these raw files. [19:02] ananke: what would you want lsnet to display? [19:03] gnubien (~e@225.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] gnubien (~e@225.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Changing host [19:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [19:03] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:03] acidchild: mapping between device name and driver it uses, maybe additional details [19:04] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:04] [such as whether it's on usb or pci bus, id, and maybe mac addy] [19:04] um... on *bsd it displays the driver name in the ifconfig (i believe) [19:04] yeah.... for sure.. [19:04] well, we're not on *bsd :) [19:05] it's weird that lspci shows my wifi card name, but iwconfig doesn't show anything other than lo,eth0,pan0 ? [19:05] we're that weird lunux stuff right? [19:05] bingo, we're talking about lunix [19:05] haha. [19:05] i installed lunix on my computar machien!1 [19:06] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:06] loonix. now that would be a great name for a distro [19:06] i've even heard of this thing called lenux [19:06] lexus? [19:06] ;P [19:06] (true story, a friend of mine asked if I knew anything about "lenux") [19:07] ananke: well... where could you pull device name (eth0,wlan0) and the driver? dmesg? /proc? [19:07] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] these days i can't get by without lsscsi. i deal with so much different storage, that i can't imagine dealing with dmesg/fdisk/nosepicking methods [19:07] sysfs ? [19:07] or even HAL? [19:08] StevenR (~foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:09] hmm, this could be a fun project if i had some time [19:09] Action: acidchild thinks about how many times that would have saved him some hairloss [19:10] go to sleep [19:10] night night all [19:10] Rossonero (~Milanista@wana-50-244-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:10] im smoking pipe tobacco [19:10] gross [19:10] StevenR (~foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:11] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.13.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:11] better than eating it [19:12] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:13] ananke: sysfs probably does what you'd like for a "lsnet" utility [19:13] ls -l /sys/module/r8169/drivers/pci:r8169/ [19:13] on my machine [19:13] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:13] mr-S (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:13] and /sys/class/net for the other way around [19:14] trhodes, Hi. Made some changes to the kernel package script and fixed a problem. [19:14] oh cool :) (Hi) [19:14] I would suggest using the new one. [19:15] I mistakenly thought the O= with modules_install would install them in target, but they actually installed in the system. [19:15] trhodes: that doesn't do what i'd like to do. it's like saying that a hammer gives me a bird house [19:15] 2 leffes on an empty stomach ftw [19:15] which would have made some wrong symlinks and perhaps broken other things [19:15] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:16] ananke: I figured you wanted a finished utility :/ [19:16] freack (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:16] chatter: 2 leffes and smoking a pipe... are you belgian? [19:16] Nick change: freack -> frk [19:16] the problem with sysfs is that there's no promises that it won't change (afaik) [19:16] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:16] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-195-228.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [19:16] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [19:16] trhodes: yeah. that's why i was talking about lsscsi and not cross matching dmesg/fdisk/sysfs :) [19:17] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [19:17] haha, i wonder if sysfs == nosepicking :) [19:17] *wondered [19:17] haha. [19:19] alienBOB: lol :) [19:20] i might go buy some merry monks [19:20] for dinner [19:22] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [19:23] alienBOB: you know your beer eh? [19:23] Action: trhodes didn't know what a leffe was until now. (jealous :) ) [19:23] Jeffroman (~jeffroman@mail.jacksonhilliard.com) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [19:23] cheap belgian ale...go bet some [19:23] get* [19:24] i wish I could ! (i'd have to brew it or drive 100 miles) [19:24] if i had belgian yeast....... [19:24] the beer situation in the US is sad [19:24] wyeast ftw [19:24] uh...im in the us [19:24] leffe is everywhere [19:24] for you (i'm in the south) [19:25] i hadn't heard of dry counties until I came here [19:25] if i had a copy of brew news i'd tell you where to go [19:25] wtf....dry county? [19:25] it's illegal to homebrew beer where I am (!) [19:25] thats what rivers are for [19:25] i thought it was federally legal [19:25] :( [19:25] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) joined ##slackware. [19:26] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.48.2) joined ##slackware. [19:26] luckily federal law doesnt usurp state law....except in california [19:26] well, i wonder about things like barley wine... semantics is the name of the game here :) [19:26] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [19:26] or a grape flavored lambic [19:26] sounds nasty [19:27] yeah :( [19:27] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:27] barley wine is a type of beer...but barley [19:27] barely :) [19:27] haha, i'd like to argue otherwise :) (only 'cause of the stupid law) [19:28] are you in alabama? [19:28] a mile away in MS [19:28] both are non homebrew states [19:29] http://freethehops.org/ [19:29] yeah :) [19:29] wow...that sucks [19:30] might as well live in saudi arabia [19:30] (that's how I found out... I wondered why I couldn't find a brew store) [19:30] i'm learning to like wine (sorry for being so OT) [19:30] yeah their restrictions sure spell it out, A.L.A.B.A.M.A. S.U.C.K.S. [19:31] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:31] i hope israel nukes alabama [19:31] :) [19:31] chatter. A.L.O.B.A.M.A. [19:32] A.L.O.E.V.E.R.A. [19:32] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:32] im on a beer fast [19:32] none of the 51 states is Israel [19:33] trappist beer is perfect for beer fasts :) [19:33] israel is the capital [19:33] of the united states [19:33] trhodes: chimay <3 [19:33] MrTopic (~roger@95.120.42.6) joined ##slackware. [19:33] a meal in a drink [19:34] haha yes (i love it) [19:34] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [19:35] can you buy chimay in suckville? [19:35] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::559b) joined ##slackware. [19:35] O.o [19:36] So here's the situation: We're trying to install slackware 10.2, loading linux from a set of floppies and getting packages from downloaded packages on a usb (trust me, it's the only devices we've got). However, the setup utility is letting us select the package series we'd like, and not installing any packages (we've correctly mounted the usb drive and pointed the setup utility to it). Also, we're trying to install the packages using pkginstall dir [19:36] 10.2 ? [19:36] floppies? [19:37] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [19:37] chatter: (nearest chimay afaik is 50 miles) [19:37] 1997 ? [19:37] the? [19:37] straw_hat, can you pxe ? [19:37] yes floppies and the computer's probably from 1997, though we haven't enlisted the archaeology department yet. [19:37] disk floppies are the only way to get a real running slackware <3 [19:37] pkginstall? [19:38] damn, old system heh [19:38] we'd? [19:38] apparently the computer just decided to up and die [19:38] I'll uh. I'll get back to you when linux loads again. [19:38] did the smoke escape [19:38] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:38] straw_hat, the floppies are fossilized dinosaurs now, xD [19:38] Yea, about three people working on it [19:38] straw_hat: well, why dont you just installpkg /usb/*/*.tgz --root /mnt/ [19:38] kernel won't fit [19:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:39] else, panic sex [19:39] it's amazing how quickly technology obsoletes in this field. hell, we give p4 machines to surplus [19:39] chatter: that's what we tried, but no dice, it wasn't finding commands in /bin/sh, giving lovely things like bus errors, and generally failing, culminating in it's current... death [19:39] i grind up p4s and snort them [19:39] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:39] i'm partially through an install like what chatter suggested [19:39] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [19:39] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:39] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [19:40] 2 p4 rails down [19:40] i mean up [19:40] haha, watch out for silicosis [19:41] i caught that once [19:41] what I'm going to do use install grub and use the slack installer's initrd to finish the setup job [19:41] P4 is the worser machine of the world, for incendiary honeypot is ok. [19:41] so the last err msg for posterity "/dev/tty2 does not exist [19:42] the p3 tualatin raped p4 [19:42] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [19:42] even to this day [19:42] seems to have killed its own console. [19:42] straw_hat: what's in /dev ? [19:42] P4 is the troll version of P3 [19:42] tualatin celerons were better than all p4s [19:43] trhodes: no idea now. [19:43] hrm. why 10.2 ? [19:43] straw_hat: how drunk are you nerds? [19:43] i've sold every P4 machine that i had in my home. [19:44] Razec (1000@187-27-224-14.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:44] straw_hat: install an sb16 with one of those nifty ide cdrom passthrus and try to boot off that! [19:45] good way to kill a few more hours [19:45] MrTopic (~roger@95.120.42.6) left irc: Quit: [BX] Silly wabbit, BitchX is for kids! [19:46] ide cdrom passthrough? [19:46] anyway, I've thrown something like 20+hrs at this laptop... I'm going to go sleep [19:46] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) joined ##slackware. [19:47] 20 hours? sounds like it's time to cut losses and ditch it [19:47] nah man, we made progress, we made progress [19:47] 20 hours working at most wal-marts will buy you an eeepc :P [19:47] MrTopic (~roger@95.120.42.6) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Action: straw_hat dies a little inside [19:48] trhodes, eeepc hasn't integrated cdrom device. [19:48] i know, but they used to come with a (crappy) linux [19:48] or a refurb, or something off craigslist, or a dozen things from a thrift store [19:48] yea but it'd probably boot from USB :( [19:48] yup, and pxe [19:48] well, the 20 hours is educational (how's that for making you feel better?) [19:49] there are USB-SATA & USB-IDE adapters [19:49] ouch [19:49] guy just wasted his whole life! [19:49] Yea eldragon we tried that with slackware and debian, came to different problems each time [19:49] sure. and so is spending 20 hours on learning how to carve stone tablets :) [19:50] Debian had problems with the processor, asking about cmov, and Slackware wouldn't let us put LiLo where it needed to be, so... [19:50] hey, flintknapping gets you sharper edges than steel :P [19:50] d_low (~d_low@unaffiliated/dlow/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [19:50] "us" should blame you for the failure [19:50] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:50] straw_hat: cmov? what processor is this? [19:50] straw_hat: you could have finished the setup program and then modified lilo.conf... [19:51] ananke, at least i686 [19:51] eldragon: he said it lacks cmov, not that it has it [19:51] zaltekk: that was one in the morning last night, we decided to go home instead [19:51] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] did i get this right for my status message "food^H^H^H^Hbeer run" [19:52] acidchild (~ash@CPE002191f86f47-CM00194747a73c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [19:52] looks fine to me [19:52] ananke: Intel Mobile Module Pentium with MMX Technology [19:52] :) [19:52] Nick change: chatter -> chattardAFK [19:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:53] straw_hat: argh, p1 processor. you really are putting a lot of time into it [19:53] jivfop (~jivfop@24.100.134.16) joined ##slackware. [19:53] straw_hat, take out the drive, install elsewhere and put it back [19:54] jivfop (~jivfop@24.100.134.16) left irc: Client Quit [19:54] You know, we abandoned that route, since we decided by committee that the cmov issue was the fault of doing just that (perhaps the debian installer was configuring for the hardware that was present on the better computer we were using to install?) [19:55] But I guess that might be the plan again tomorrow. [19:56] straw_hat: seriously, why slack 10.2 ? [19:56] i want to know :) [19:56] what i want to know is why such antique hardware? what's the ultimate goal here? [19:57] sevv (sev@216.164.6.24) joined ##slackware. [19:57] -current does fine on old hardware (drivers may be another issue) [19:58] HoldMyPocket (~charleskh@12.157.146.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:58] personally, I still deal with old hardware because I'm a poor cheapskate. [19:59] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:02] d4rwin (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:03] d4rwin (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] acidchild (~ash@CPE002191f86f47-CM00194747a73c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::559b) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:06] trhodes: only one we could find floppies for [20:06] GGG (~roger@95.120.42.6) joined ##slackware. [20:06] well, the latest one, at least [20:06] GGG (roger@95.120.42.6) left ##slackware. [20:07] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [20:08] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-113.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [20:10] ah ok [20:10] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [20:10] have you heard of smart boot manager ? [20:10] that might help [20:11] straw_hat: here it is: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ [20:11] acidchild (~ash@CPE002191f86f47-CM00194747a73c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:11] also this: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Smart_Boot_Manager [20:12] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:13] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:13] MrTopic (~roger@95.120.42.6) left irc: Quit: BitchX: the quilted quicker picker upper [20:14] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:14] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!phrag@about/slackware/phrag: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | Public Channel Logs: http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | Slackware 13.0 Released August 26 2009 | Torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: httpd, firefox, pidgin. [20:14] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [20:14] thanks phrag [20:15] =) [20:15] frk (~freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:16] thanks [20:16] yw, not sure it'll help however, i just know it's s'sposed to fit on a floppy [20:17] *supposed [20:18] you could even get some old distro from ibiblio and install that way (coyotelinux comes to mind, there were many floppy sized distros) [20:19] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) joined ##slackware. [20:21] straw_hat: how much HD space are you dealing with ? [20:22] Nick change: chattardAFK -> chatter [20:23] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:23] ttylinux [20:24] btw is it just me or does boot.kernel.org not work at all with virtualbox [20:24] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [20:26] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:26] trhodes: 3.3gb [20:26] har (~AndChat@32.168.183.112) joined ##slackware. [20:27] someone needs to design a ps2 data transfer cable [20:27] AndChat| (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] ahh, i stripped slack down to ~2G uncompressed for an old machine [20:28] stygian (~stygian@adsl-68-95-118-82.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] you presumably won't be compiling, so that helps with space constraints [20:28] and you can like add in bits of l/ as necessary [20:28] also: http://www.toms.net/rb/ for a (probably) more suitable floppy distro than coyotelinux [20:29] Gr1nch_ (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [20:29] tinycore? [20:29] 2.6 won't fit on a floppy afaik [20:29] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [20:29] AndChat| (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:30] you can skip emacs, and trim n/ down easily [20:30] httpd and php and samba are big [20:31] tetex is huge [20:31] that too [20:31] har (~AndChat@32.168.183.112) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:31] and documentation [20:31] tcl is small, but if you don't use it / know what it is, skip it [20:31] i keep tcl, personally [20:32] yes, skip headers too (the compiling thing again) [20:32] *kernel headers [20:32] ok enough with that crap [20:32] old hardware is depressing [20:33] agreed [20:33] yeah :) sorry [20:33] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.253.245.192) joined ##slackware. [20:33] my uncle gave me back my 700mhz celeron with 512 mem [20:33] like i built my dosbox to play Syndicate Plus and the crap crashes [20:33] back in 98, that machine was great [20:33] as in REAL dos box [20:34] Anyone that's running -current64 having locale issues? http://pastebin.com/18QAfa89 a python program is yelling at me about it and locale is saying that in the pastebin. [20:34] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:34] agentc0re: i had that problem [20:34] rworkman told me how to fix it before i nuked the intstallation [20:35] did you use freaking slackpkg? [20:35] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [20:35] yes. [20:35] trhodes: we were looking to only install the base packages in /a/ and the networking packages in /n/ [20:35] is that how this got borked? [20:35] slackpkg borks upgrades to -current [20:35] fuck... [20:35] ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE [20:35] im sure they would ban me for saying it [20:35] mirror time! [20:35] chatter: whats the quick fix? [20:35] Anybody had any luck with bluetooth headphones? [20:36] gotta check the logs... of this channel [20:36] it was localegen SOMETHING x 3 [20:37] localedef [20:37] anyway, i'm out [20:37] chatter: k....whatelse? [20:38] straw_hat (~robotics@robo.cs.fiu.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:38] straw_hat: trim stuff out of n/ even [20:38] crap [20:38] agentc0re: um it was over my head [20:38] because i was just like WTF GD IT [20:39] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:39] agentc0re, try this: might work, and harmless if not - http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/sY5uPA92.html [20:39] yeah that was it [20:39] that'll re-generate 3 of the popular locales [20:40] i think that fixed it, but then i reinstalled....whatever that means [20:40] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] thrice`: do you think that i'd need to log out in order for changes like this to take effect? [20:41] shouldn't have to, I don't believe [20:42] bummer. well that didn't fix it. :/ [20:42] need to restart terminal [20:42] locale is set when bash starts most likely [20:42] or perl [20:42] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434976.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:42] python, etc [20:42] agentc0re: you sure you have the latest glibc package installed? [20:42] rworkman: let me double check. [20:42] quite a few people are hitting this [20:42] yeah slackpkg didnt install i18n [20:43] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:43] for me some how yet it was my fault somehow yet for me [20:43] thats right....glibc-i18n i blame slackpkg [20:44] ah, i am missing that, but i installed glibc by hand before running slackpkg. hrm. [20:44] weird. [20:44] yeap [20:45] dont blame yourself [20:45] even if THEY say its your fault [20:47] rworkman: have there been quite a few reports of slackpkg doing that? "that" being missing glibc? [20:47] s/quite a few/any/ [20:48] Gr1nch_ (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:48] post your bugs, so their existence may be denied [20:49] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [20:49] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:50] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:50] chatter: are you running slackware64? [20:51] chatter: with all due respect, what's your fucking problem? [20:51] nope [20:51] chatter: were you at the time? [20:51] nope [20:51] its just slackpkg borks stuff...gotta do upgrade.txt normally [20:51] or get called a crackpot/moron [20:51] PiterPunk: ping [20:52] i cant blame them honestly...dont trust apt or urpmi or slackpkg to upgrade yoursystem [20:52] I've upgraded *several* boxes with slackpkg, so it doesn't always bork stuff. The only problem with it right now, so far as I'm aware, is that xf86-input-wacom isn't detected as a new package by --install-new [20:53] Action: jkwood goes digging [20:53] arrggg why cant i permenantly accept my certificate with most browsers... [20:53] Re "didn't install glibc-i18n" -- slackpkg isn't supposed to install it if it's not already installed. [20:53] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:53] http://pastebin.com/72EigxGZ [20:53] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [20:53] Would this be a bad time to try to convert everybody to slapt-get? =) [20:53] i am thinking it had something to do with multilib installed. [20:53] Action: jkwood sets SiegeX on fire [20:54] agentc0re: what's in your /etc/slackpkg/blacklist ? [20:54] rworkman: You running 64 or 32? [20:54] jkwood: 64 [20:54] I also ran a "clean-system" with slackpkg. i wonder if it cleaned the slackware pkg over the multilib.. rworkman, let me check. [20:54] but have upgraded two other 64 and one 32 machine [20:54] maybe packages should be named 2.09 vs 2.9 ? [20:55] you're an idiot, keep quiet [20:55] see there they go [20:55] kill the messenger [20:55] Well, that *was* a dumb suggestion. [20:55] rworkman: (memory is coming back from multilib install) i added the glib's to the blacklist as per aliens instructions. [20:55] agentc0re, that really fixed it? [20:55] ding ding :) [20:56] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.253.245.192) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:56] well i never did that and same thing happened [20:57] rworkman: shit... that fucking means gcc and others too. damn it! hahah, thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction. [20:57] rworkman: traditionally, issues with single packages in slackpkg are related to filesystem or formatting issues on the mirrors. I've seen that before in Slamd4. [20:57] agentc0re: is it clean-system that borks? [20:57] jkwood: yes, that's possible, but in this case, I think I already know the reason -- I guess I should have mentioned that :) [20:58] thrice`: well i haven't checked to see if it's fixed yet but since i had all the multilib stuff blacklisted (i forgot about all that), it never installed any of the new -current packages, just left all the multilib ones. [20:58] chatter: no. [20:58] rworkman: That would make a difference. [20:58] I need a vpn client for slackware. Where can I find one and how do I set it up? [20:58] btw, I was half way excited about slackpkg's check-updates option thinking that might be what makes me convert...that was until I saw it's output =( Was expecting a list of packages + versions to be updated, only got "There is news". [20:58] i was on 32 bit and got same locale error [20:58] with no blacklist [20:58] using slackpkg [20:58] jkwood: --install-new list is generated by (at least partially) parsing the ChangeLog for "Added" and such -- note that the wacom driver got an "Upgraded" line even though it was new [20:58] sec0nd: openvpn is included [20:59] rworkman: That's it exactly, then. [20:59] rworkman: how do I set it up? Google doesn't have any solutions :( [20:59] Sorry to send you running on a goosechase, jkwood :) [20:59] sec0nd: /usr/doc/openvpn-*/ [21:00] thanks [21:00] sec0nd: of course, the vpn server plays a role in whether openvpn is the right client for you [21:00] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:00] x/fontconfig-2.8.0-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded. is mentioned in the ChangeLog twice [21:00] rworkman: No worries, I just spent a lot of time getting it working on Slamd64, so I tend to take an interest. Spent a lot of time chasing down errors relating to no md5 file. ;) [21:00] jkwood: ah yes :) [21:00] so is firefox/et al refusing to permenantly accept my https cert because i dont have ORGANIZATIONAL UNIT defined or what.... [21:00] sahk0: oops. Lots of entries there to overlook - congrats on catching that :) [21:01] rworkman: i upgraded by hand :p [21:01] ah [21:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] i think slackpkg should just detect your installed version and refuse to change branches [21:02] echo USE UPGRADE.TXT PL0X [21:03] stygian (~stygian@adsl-68-95-118-82.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:03] We can't wrap the whole bloody system in bubble wrap. [21:03] stygian (~stygian@adsl-68-95-118-82.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] i'd rather be told to do it manually then run into bugs and be told they dont exist [21:05] you don't even run slackware, your opinion means nothing :) [21:06] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:06] bash-3.1$ cat /etc/slackware-version nSlackware 13.0.0.0.0 [21:06] rworkman: problems solved. [21:06] doesn't piter punk have something like that in the works ? [21:06] thrice`: what says i dont run slackware anyway.... [21:07] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] chatter, I misread something above; I see the "64" at the end of the questio now [21:07] ah [21:07] gotta be a better way than parsing the changelog for new packages, isn't there a package manifest for that? I think that's how slapt-get does it [21:07] Hmmm... I suppose it wouldn't hurt to check for the existence of CURRENT.WARNING and do a "first-run" kind of thing. [21:07] god im sick of all these browsers refusing to permentantly accept my certificate [21:08] SiegeX: There is a package manifest, and it also gets taken into consideration. [21:09] Certificate is not trusted, because it hasn't been verified by a recognized authority. [21:10] what a load of shit, im a recognized authority [21:10] If you used a proper cert, you might not have this problem. [21:10] is it free? [21:10] You're a recognized authority on reminding me of cpunches. [21:11] jkwood: time to break out the booze then. [21:11] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:11] jkwood: can i get a "proper cert" for free? [21:12] you need to buy one [21:12] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [21:12] ok that wont work [21:12] People don't work for free. Except for the Peace Corps. [21:12] you can find them for $50 or so [21:13] ok but people get a monopoly on CERTS for free apparently [21:13] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:13] saying im untrustworthy because i bother to encrypt my httpd data [21:13] CERTS-with retsyn, 2 mints in one [21:13] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:13] haha, i wondered when mints would get mentioned :) [21:14] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] har (~AndChat@pool-71-115-56-198.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] jkwood: slackpkg is certainly comming along, but as a long time slapt-get user I can tell you that my top three slackpkg gripes that keep me still using slapt-get are 1) no regex support for blacklists 2) install-new is like drinking from a firehose, I only really want to install new packages that are apart of slackware base sets 3) check-updates reports no useful information. [21:16] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) joined ##slackware. [21:17] stygian: google KS ? [21:17] SiegeX: 1) Funny, I'm fairly certain my regexes are working, but I'll be happy to hack it into the code if not 2) Slackpkg only pulls from Slackware mirrors, I'm not sure what you're talking about 3) check-updates reports if there are updates, update pulls information on the updates, and upgrade-all lets you peruse the updates before you download them. Each one does it's job. [21:17] acidchild (~ash@CPE002191f86f47-CM00194747a73c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] stygian (~stygian@adsl-68-95-118-82.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:18] Regex support... that would be a good project for tonight. [21:18] wow...fortune is amazing "All this time I've been VIEWING a RUSSIAN MIDGET SODOMIZE a HOUSECAT!" [21:19] stygian (~stygian@ppp-66-139-122-155.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] stygian (~stygian@ppp-66-139-122-155.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:23] jkwood: regex support is a long-time-i-wish-slackpkg-had-this feature. I've seen a patch floating around somewhere, but damned if I know where. [21:24] I wish PiterPunk had a git repo I could pull from, but I'll try to add it to the latest beta. [21:24] stuart (~stuart@115.135.231.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:24] go jkwood go [21:25] e.g. being about to blackist "*_rlw$" would be awesome [21:25] jkwood: 1) perhaps I am doing it wrong then and the thread I read about slackpkg not supporting regex for blacklists were outdated, what would be the proper way to blacklist packages ending in '_SBo' ? 2) slapt-get --dist-upgrade wants to only install 'rpm2tgz' because that is the only package I don't have in the base disk set, slackpkg install-new on the other hand wants to install 120+ packages from *all* sets. 3) If I get an email about updates, Id a [21:26] n/m #1 that was just answered [21:26] Oh, disk set support... I'll look into that, too. [21:27] Action: jkwood has too many projects on the back burner [21:27] anyone compiled succesfully geeqie from slackbuilds ? [21:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:35] mac-: I would imagine niels_horn has. [21:35] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:36] Jeffroman (~jeffroman@74-130-85-52.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [21:37] factotum_ (~factotum@24-180-127-58.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] Jeffroman (~jeffroman@74-130-85-52.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:39] is there a vpn gui client? [21:40] nope. [21:40] well how do I setup vpnc or openvpn for itshidden.com [21:40] there is a few webgui's that are incoperated in to some distro designed for dedicated linux router [21:40] but nothing really of interest, you could look at openca for keymanagement [21:41] it uses encrypted pptp connections with a username and password [21:41] pptp =! openvpn [21:41] I'm confused on how to setup the configuration files and use it [21:41] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:41] well I installed vpnc [21:41] i dunno what that is, there is a pptp client for linux [21:42] Razec (1000@187-27-224-14.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:42] I have pptp installed also [21:43] I setup the connection using pptpsetup [21:43] wicked [21:43] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] google 'openvpn mini howto' its worth learning [21:44] Use of PPTP has been dis-encouraged by many security specialist for it has been subject of many weaknesses. [21:44] I though that pptp was not openvpn? [21:44] its not, pptp is ghey [21:45] vpn.itshidden.com is only pptp [21:45] http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/1083 [21:45] its a free vpn so meh I'll use it [21:45] i dunno why you would want to forward packets though an untrusted source. [21:45] nothing is 'free' [21:46] -.- I'm aware [21:46] checking cryptome [21:46] matters but doesn't really matter [21:46] Action: sec0nd is curious :P [21:46] if your 'curious' be curious enough to learn how it works ;x [21:47] bbl, shower then subway [21:47] -.- [21:47] lol [21:47] fuk I'll just setup firefox to work with tor i already have installed and running ;) [21:47] cryptome? [21:47] conspiritard [21:47] cryptome.(org|.com) [21:47] what [21:47] NO [21:47] they keep getting taken down [21:48] paranoid schizophrenic [21:48] one day it was microsoft then paypal (donations with held) [21:48] so I want to see their status [21:48] sure just like wikileaks has a conspiracy against them [21:48] also chatter have you actually seen the site? [21:48] SUUUURE [21:48] wikileaks was down (somewhat) last time i checked [21:48] -.- [21:48] uh huh....conspiracy wacko [21:48] this gets me no where [21:48] talk to jeev, he is also out of his gourd [21:49] niels_horn: did you compile geeqie ? [21:49] niels_horn: please write to me on prv ... [21:49] sec0nd: buildings always fall into their foot prints, learn physics noob :D [21:50] Emzzzz (~Emzzzz@pa58-109-217-87.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:50] http://imggmi.info/DSC-1268361803.jpg/ do my tits look big? [21:50] Emzzzz (Emzzzz@pa58-109-217-87.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) left ##slackware. [21:50] Dominian, around? [21:50] please guys, do NOT click on that picture [21:50] not going to [21:51] that's been going around on multiple networks. what is it? [21:51] Keylogger. [21:51] Or botnet installer, I'm not sure which. [21:52] tardlogger [21:52] I'm not pro enough to track it down and make megabucks off taking it down. [21:52] virtual machine + sniffer? [21:53] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:53] Oh, I could do it, Ihave the tools and the training, just not the motivation. [21:53] :D [21:53] no shit [21:54] there are 17 year olds that know nothing with 2000+ comp botnets [21:54] i sometimes get bored enough to taunt them [21:54] and nothing happens....such is life [21:56] Now haud on, is my slack 13 build so shonky (ie; is mozilla so infectious... ;)) that merely visiting a url will pone me h4rdc0re? [21:56] sure [21:56] i h4x u [21:56] who knows what its target is [21:57] zomg no pls dont. [21:57] some obscure hole [21:57] chatter: But it may be a big pair of tits. [21:57] 80% of us could probably click it with no problem....but are you taht 20%? [21:57] oh, well, just a bunch of redirections. i grew tired of following them [21:57] I am willing to risk it, [21:57] get noscript first? [21:58] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] nachox: i think the point is that the first redirection was to an advertisement system's link [21:58] hmm, does ssh-copy-id allow you to set options on the resulting key in authorized_keys? such as no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-pty, etc [21:58] meaning everyone they get to go there earns them a buck [21:58] until their account gets closed for breaking the terms of service [21:58] so far it doesn't seem as there would be a way [21:58] Oh my gawd guys, this is awesome... just the sort of good shit I've always been after... it's... it's... [21:59] It's a holding page [21:59] ananke: there is a patch [21:59] ananke: that you can set seperate user profiles. [21:59] argh, i was hoping for a cleaner way. ohh well, i'll just use ssh to append what i need [21:59] nar, no nice way, want the link ananke ? [21:59] ananke, i have question about that, can i set more than 1 command in the command variable in authorized_key? [22:00] acidchild: nah. i'm looking for a clean way, that i can easily document and have repeatable [22:00] :) gl [22:00] hello nacho! =] [22:00] nachox: i'm not sure. i don't think so [22:00] hows everything acidchild ? [22:01] why would anyone use beano on their food ? [22:01] or themselves [22:01] gf just got back from subway, i'll ttyl! everything is okey, hope they are with you also =) [22:01] Action: ananke is setting up rsnapshot for a few servers. trying to make it slightly more secure [22:01] subway - eat flesh! [22:01] Action: nachox suspects it isnt possible since command is run whenever the user logs in using the key to the server [22:02] jeev: keep your paranoid rantings to yourself pl0x [22:02] how's that paranoid [22:02] beano saved my marriage [22:02] sucks for you [22:03] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [22:03] now thats comedy [22:03] ananke, poors man zfs snapshot ;) [22:03] nachox: which works over the network, unlike zfs :) [22:04] course zfs works over the network, try zfs send and zfs recieve [22:04] nah. what's next, i'm going to have bits and bytes flying all over the place? [22:04] Action: nachox throws some bytes at ananke [22:04] Action: ananke curses lack of decent backup solution for linux [22:05] durp? [22:05] mondo? [22:05] http://www.mondorescue.org/ [22:05] ibm had something decent i believe, but decent is written with $$ there [22:06] nachox: yes. tsm. we use it. [and pay for it]. it's a monstrosity, and you can really have a full person dedicated to managing it [22:06] i use rsync personally [22:06] but for tape drives i guess you need other crap [22:07] mondo doesn't have notion of incrementals, and its authors are less than friendly [22:07] cheaper to buy like 20 1tb drives and trickle rsync than to use tape maybe [22:07] ananke, yes, that one. why do you think it is a monstruosity? [22:07] actually, in this case i just need disk based [22:07] bacula :P [22:07] nachox: have you managed tsm? [22:07] Action: nachox runs [22:07] just seen it run [22:08] bacula is an atrocity. it strives to be like tsm/netbackup/legato, but it fails. it has some good ideas, but its concepts and building blocks are completely different than what the rest of the world uses. syntax/nomenclature are a complete nightmare, and it really requires a lot of effort to get it deployed and manage it. its logs are worthless [22:09] hehe i find the rsyncd.conf syntax to be wtf...but it works [22:09] nachox: i've managed a tsm system for the past 7 years. full blown ibm solution: tsm on aix, on m80, with ibm ess for disk pool and ibm 3584 tape library [22:10] the manual is over 1200 pages long [22:10] yes, bacula is an awful solution. and its mostly a wrapper around gnu tar [22:10] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] only because rsyncd.conf has lines like "transfer logging = false" with spaces left of the equal [22:11] and yeah, we'll keep tsm, mostly for oracle TDP. however, we're migrating it from aix/r6k/disk-to-disk-to-tape-to-tape to linux/x86_64/disk-to-disk-to-disk [22:11] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:11] why? i thought tapes were cheaper [22:11] NEIN [22:11] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:12] they are, but we are short on courier resources [22:12] ananke, btw, you guys are not looking for lazy south american administrators, right? :P [22:12] sorry, no positions open right now [22:13] what about lazy west american administrators? [22:13] right now we're on LTO1 tapes. that's getting a bit out of hand with the amount of data. we'd have to go to LTO3. [22:14] so while we're keeping an enterprise backup for our critical data, we want to have an option for a cheap backup of less critical servers/etc. tsm costs a bundle, and they've changed pricing in the recent years. they charge per core now, rather than per node [22:14] how much data is it [22:15] ananke, i've been working for a client in brazil who is has a provider called ananke it :P [22:15] i have about 30TB in backup now. i have probably 150TB on disk, and growing rapidly [22:15] they've followed the trend there, oracle does the same [22:16] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:16] on monday we're actually have a meeting about allocating 350TB from central IT's storage for us [22:16] Intel[R]VT-x (~IntelR]VT@112.135.3.59) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:16] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::573b) joined ##slackware. [22:18] rsnapshot is an option i'm exploring right now, but i really don't like how much access it requires [22:18] 350 terabytes of worthless DNA data [22:18] just design a dna based storage solution [22:18] 'worthless'? [22:18] yeah, it doesnt explain why the most inbred have the most money [22:18] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] ....only history explains that [22:19] i see. so just because it doesn't answer some obscure question you may have, you suddenly deem it worthless. interesting [22:19] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.210.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:19] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:19] i know that weapons contractors are hiring people with BLAST and what not experience [22:19] i turned down those jobs [22:19] |slackin| (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [22:19] id ont know why they are hiring for that shit [22:20] biological weapons [22:20] im sure....i read "PNAC - Rebuilding America's Defenses" [22:20] biodefense is a big market. [22:20] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [22:20] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:20] "weapons that target specific genotypes would be a politically useful tool." [22:21] zed_DX (~kvirc@189.164.119.247) joined ##slackware. [22:21] its just that white phosphorus is just so bush administration ;) they had to come up with something cool this time [22:22] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] ok, sorry, not that good a joke [22:23] i liked it [22:23] DIME weapons > white phosphorus [22:23] dense inert metal explosive or something [22:23] ask fascisreal about it [22:24] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [22:24] that specific genotype weapon thing was discussed by the USArmy, first I read, in 1969, then a lot more later in the early 1980s [22:24] back when the 'gay virus' scare was making the rounds, and hatred for brown people was high [22:25] OMG echelon [22:25] ? [22:25] gay virus.....HIV from blood transfusions in NY anyone? [22:26] what? [22:26] that's what I'm talking about [22:26] briareus: dont use your brain too much, its a liability [22:26] back when they understood it less and panicked more [22:26] ? [22:26] what/ [22:27] wtf dude [22:27] I'm talking about what THEY were talking about, they being TPTB and the stupid public [22:27] i'd tell you a secret, but its a secret [22:27] I have said nothing about what I believe [22:27] so thanks for the kindness. [22:27] goodnight. [22:27] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [22:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:28] someone can be gentically closer to a stranger across the world then to a family member [22:29] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:29] Intel[R]VT-x (~IntelR]VT@112.135.15.77) joined ##slackware. [22:29] race isn't even reflected in genotype [22:30] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:31] I know that, you know that, but stupid killers don't always know that :) [22:31] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:33] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [22:33] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [22:35] StevenR (~foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:50] slackboy joined ##slackware. [22:52] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:53] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [22:55] is it possible to change permissions for a directory so that whoever create a file or dir in that place , the group owner will always be the same [22:56] Yes [22:57] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Quit: [yop] [22:58] ok [22:58] thx [22:58] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:00] paissad_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setgid_on_directories [23:00] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:03] Put the sgid bit on the directory <-- er, sorry, I apparently didn't hit 'enter' before I walked off :/ [23:03] For once, I wasn't *trying* to be an asshole. See? It's just natural. :) [23:03] d4rwin (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:04] d4rwin (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:14] Nick change: paissad_ -> paissad [23:16] derp [23:16] cleaning up for the cleaning ladies is teh suck [23:16] gotta hide all the dildos and shit [23:17] errm i mean....ehrm......../part [23:20] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Xires [23:21] just put it in your mouth [23:25] :D [23:26] StevenR (~foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:26] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-205-188.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:27] Kaapa (~Something@bl7-76-196.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:30] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:30] Action: chatter pokes jeev [23:30] StevenR (~foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:31] butterball (~62e7bfe7@gateway/web/freenode/x-cogcligutheusgbq) joined ##slackware. [23:33] http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/03/10/help-im-obsessed-with-breasts/ [23:34] too long of a read [23:35] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [23:35] um yeah... [23:35] wasnt she in inglorious basterds...hence the jew staring at her tits? [23:35] Action: chatter kills self [23:36] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:37] please god PLEASE dont let woody allen mix his inbred genes with scarlet johanson [23:38] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:41] Action: chatter stabs jeev [23:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] dendrix (~dendrix@host-134-197-214-202.gbcnv.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:42] is slackbook 2 relevent for slackware 13 [23:42] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] somewhat [23:43] Hello. [23:43] well how much usful info would it be leaving out [23:43] if any? [23:44] any one, get { gnome } slackbuild working ? [23:44] zed_DX (~kvirc@189.164.119.247) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [23:45] Action: dendrix has been using ubuntu all this time and wants to actually learn linux [23:45] :0 [23:45] lol [23:45] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:45] buzzin: there are a few projects that are gnome packages but their names escape me right now.. I guess I'm just useless :) [23:45] ha, i used Ubuntu for way to long [23:46] yeah, theres , drop line gnome also [23:46] but, slack build gnome looks pretty tasty [23:46] I tried Ubuntu once.. installed it.. did an update and it borked the install somehow.. never went back [23:46] I use them as liveCDs though. They come in handy [23:47] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:47] dartmouth (~dartmouth@pool-72-65-97-196.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] but yeah anyway the rest of my crew switch to debian and I wanted to go slackware [23:47] first i need to learn slackware [23:47] I used Zenwalk from 5.2 - 6.0 butt keep gong back to Slack [23:47] s/crew/krew/ [23:47] hi can someone give me the link to the catalyst 10.3 driver as it seems that amd's website does not work with text-based browsers and i cant have X even in vesa [23:48] tis why I'm asking which slackbook i need [23:48] I'm just going to stay with Slackware [23:48] keep it realz y0 d4\/\/g [23:48] off_tr4mp0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:48] Alan_Hicks, [23:49] o.m f-in god, i just love my keyboard [23:49] I got a new Unicomp customizer 101 [23:49] just like the IBM model M butt brand new [23:49] Action: chatter restabs jeev [23:50] drinking on an empty stomach makes me burp up a lot of foam [23:50] WACKY [23:51] : -- 0 [23:51] chatter: maybe you should share that in ##slackware-offtopic instead of here because no one gives a fuck. [23:51] agentc0re: maybe you should share that in ##slackware-offtopic instead of here because no one gives a fuck. [23:51] guessing no one here is going to take on my slackbook question [23:51] dendrix: the latest 13.0 dvd iso has a slackbook on it....its probably RELEVANT [23:51] dendrix: slackbook.com [23:52] thank you [23:52] as is the one on the site or one from 9 years ago.... [23:52] dendrix: check out, /topic [23:52] check out /me stabs jeev [23:52] I have the one that came with the iso [23:52] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:52] dartmouth: x86_64? [23:53] is there any C programmers here? [23:53] PathagenX (~Miranda@222-154-47-117.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:53] dendrix: what's the question? I might be able to help ;0 [23:53] dendrix: probably. i'd just ask the question if you have one. :D [23:53] i think its just x86 [23:53] how would you guys go about solving the following: i have two text files A and B, each with 5278 lines. is there a way for me to merge A and B so that every other line number in A is deleted and replaced with the (contents of the) line number from B? at this point, all i'm capable of is manually cutting and pasting. :( [23:53] when is, Slackware going to come out with a gnome release [23:54] well I would like to ask but i don't want to seem like an ignorant little kid [23:54] antler: this sounds so very familiar... [23:54] dartmouth: what chip is it? [23:54] antler: you dont need C to do that [23:54] Wescotte: i cant use the 9.11, 9.12, 10.1 or 10.2 its the sapphire [23:54] agentc0re: familiar to what? [23:54] radeon hd 5770 [23:54] antler: the problem. sounds like something that has come up before is all. [23:54] agentc0re: oh [23:55] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [23:55] antler: would diff work ? you could create a patch to patch the differences of A with B. [23:55] dartmouth: you sure 10.3 exists? I tried a few different chip models and all say 10.2 [23:56] antler: could also do a for loop that would go through each line item, sore that in a variable and use sed to replace that with the one from B? [23:56] dendrix (~dendrix@host-134-197-214-202.gbcnv.edu) left irc: Quit: had question answered [23:56] Wescotte: i assumed the 10.3 was out :( [23:56] agentc0re: when did you learn to speak chinese? [23:56] antler: i guess it depends on your needs, one time use... all the time sorta thing /shrug [23:56] antler: yesterday. [23:56] antler: :P [23:56] hahaha [23:56] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt7-port-83.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] antler: do you just need to do this once? [23:57] dartmouth: seems like 10.2 is the most current release.. why can't you use 10.2? [23:57] agentc0re: yeah [23:58] skalkoto_ (~skalkoto@ppp079166050237.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:58] agentc0re: ok, i'll look into for loop and diff, but my for loops and diff powers are weak. :P [23:59] antler: one second.. [23:59] "your powers are weak old man." --d. vader [23:59] Wescotte: it causes a hardlock with the 5770 in every linux distro i've tried it on [00:00] --- Fri Mar 12 2010