[00:01] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-28-84.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.116.40) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:05] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:06] d4vidc (n=d@74-209-6-39.dsl.elltel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] Winter__ (n=Winter@75-121-137-254.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] ye gods [00:09] holiday special is unwatchable. Even Lucas (the guy who invented Jar Jar) wants to forget it exists [00:09] what ? [00:11] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-47.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] hey i just installed gtk and glib where can i get the libgtk-x11-2.0 [00:12] its not on slackbuild or slackware.com [00:12] gtk+2 package [00:13] (you probably only installed gtk+, which is version 1) [00:14] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.163.127) left irc: "leaving" [00:16] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [00:19] Trey__ (n=Trey@dblt-216-227-24-77.gtcom.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Urchlay actually i did it on gtk.org [00:20] code source [00:21] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-025-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Zozma_ (n=Winter@98-125-73-201.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] masterx831: well, the same thing applies. Did you compile version 1 or 2? [00:23] libgtk-x11-2.0 is part of gtk+ version 2 and up [00:23] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/05/trolling-someone-online-bill-would-slap-you-with-jail-time.ars [00:24] Urchlay hmMm.. oh i never knew that well thanks let me check if it works brb [00:27] cyberbullying bill..wtf, antiwire you're going down man. ;) [00:28] lol [00:28] i think 261 people and at least even 1 bot are going down in here [00:29] haha, yup we're all guilty at one point or another. [00:29] hehe [00:29] antiwire: lol....well,there goes #ubuntu...:D [00:30] haha [00:30] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.23.57) joined ##slackware. [00:30] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:33] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.53) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:33] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:34] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [00:35] hey anyone alive .. if so .. for some reason when im burn movies to my dvd they aren't working .. can i put .vob files onto a dvd and burn it .. if so will a regular dvd play them ? [00:35] I'm alive...I think. :p [00:36] macman_: do you happen to be using k3b on Slackware current? [00:36] {Repelex} (n=STRESSAD@201.22.170.174.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [00:36] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:36] antiwire: what do you mean . . im using normaly burning programs but they arne't working [00:36] antiwire: i have k3b installed [00:36] macman_: What's your regular dvd player? [00:36] MLanden: some cheap one [00:37] macman_: what version of slackware are you running. 12.2 -current, or what. [00:37] firebird619: negative, you are dead... [00:37] macman_: well i meant do you happen to be using k3b on Slackware current? [00:37] andarius: aww man, when did that happen? [00:37] yes im using k3b [00:37] not sure, some time ago i think [00:37] i haven't used it to burn movies yet [00:37] on Slackware 12.2 or current or what? [00:37] not on slackware [00:37] andarius: and nobody let me know? :P [00:37] we were afraid to hurt your feelings. sorry :P [00:37] haha [00:37] thanks [00:37] lol [00:38] what if i was on slackware with k3b .. what would you tell me that is diffrent ? [00:38] andarius: I'm surprised I didn't see myself in the obituaries, I suppose that wasn't done either? [00:38] If you were on slackware, you'd get help. :) [00:39] we told the paper you skipped right to zombie status. they figured an obit was a bad idea [00:39] macman_: If you were using k3b on Slackware CURRENT I would tell you to keep waiting [00:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-181-176.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] andarius: ah, ok, that makes sense. :) [00:39] If you were using k3b on 12.2 i'd suggest you verify your creation methods [00:40] meh im burning with k3b and going to let it verify [00:41] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:42] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [00:42] for setting the resolution for framebuffer, isn't there like a vbeset or something? [00:42] macman_: I don't mean verify the in the sense of letting k3b verify the finished disk. I mean verify that you are building a DVD with the correct structure and that the files you are adding to it are sane. [00:42] Action: edman007_ waves [00:42] Action: MLanden salutes [00:42] hello edman007 [00:42] how are you? [00:43] hello MLanden and firebird619 [00:43] good [00:43] Hey MLanden, how are you? [00:43] interview tomorrow, finals for the rest of the week, and then i graduate [00:43] edman007_: getting closer to graduation. :) [00:43] edman007_: good luck [00:43] and go to FL the week after i graduate [00:43] Fine,firebird619 thanks and yourself? [00:43] thumbs, thanks :) [00:43] MLanden: doing very well, thanks. [00:44] edman007_: Have fun in Florida. :) [00:44] antiwire: of course everything is right .. antiwire i put the video into devde and make it into a movie /iso .. then i burn the iso to dvd [00:44] firebird619, oh i will [00:44] antiwire: i have all vobs everything in the right place [00:44] edman007_: :) I figured you will, how could you not. :) [00:44] my grandma in FL is having her 90th b-day too, so we are probably having a big party [00:44] cool [00:44] beach party? :) [00:45] sound great,edman007 [00:45] i always find it ironic when someone says "of course everything is right" but it still doesn't work.... [00:45] haha [00:45] macman_: try burning at a slower speed too [00:45] Are set top boxes the only devices you are trying to play them on are are PC DVD drives having a hard time too? [00:46] on or are** [00:46] MLanden, oh yea... [00:46] firebird619, i'm going to spend a lot of time at the beach [00:46] i bought a one way ticket ;) [00:46] sweet [00:47] edman007: gulf side,right? [00:48] yea [00:48] _MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [00:48] are you around there? [00:48] Nick change: MakubeX -> MakubeX|copernic [00:48] antiwire: i tried a 1x but it is default to 2.x .. no matter what program im using [00:48] Nick change: _MakubeX -> MakubeX [00:48] MakubeX, oyt your panties on [00:48] s/oyt/put/ [00:48] macman_: that happens when the media doesn't support speeds slower than 1x but it is normal [00:49] edman007_: lol [00:49] slower than 2x i meant [00:49] burning a DVD-R at 4x should suffice. [00:49] no,Virginia...got some relations who live down there up coast though..north of Tampa [00:50] thumbs: not always. I have worked with many set top decks that are extremely touchy, where using the slowest supported speed by the media allowed it to play [00:51] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:51] MLanden, oh...well i'm going to ft myers :) [00:51] in my experiences [00:52] edman007: have fun [00:52] Action: edman007_ dances [00:52] i get DVD+R and try to burn at 2x .. i think its something with this laptop .. because if i put the iso on my wifes laptop and burn it .. dvds work [00:52] but the finals MUST DIE [00:52] yet this laptop will burn data dvds/cd's perfect [00:52] edman007_: have you studied? :P [00:52] not yet... [00:52] first final is wensday night [00:52] macman_: it could be any number of things though. Is the wife's laptop using all of the same software? [00:52] get that project done yet? [00:52] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] i got two wensday night, two thursday night, and a final report due, tuesday, and two on friday (plus on presentation) [00:53] antiwire: she is on a windows box .. i use imageburn on that laptop ..so to re-create on this laptop .. in installed windows on a parition an dinstalled image burn .. but it still not good .. it won't burn good dvd's [00:53] installed* [00:53] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:54] antiwire: i know its a good dvd caues i can't mount the iso and play it in vlc or totem or anything [00:54] firebird619, and the last class is friday and i'm going to have to stay until 11 or so :( [00:54] :( [00:54] firebird619, exactly [00:54] I'm sure you can't wait until this week is over. [00:54] antiwire: can't i just drag vobs to the dvd and burn it as a data dvd and my dvd player should play it right ? [00:54] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:54] i need to graduate! [00:54] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Action: chopp waits till wednesday to throw spellcheck at edman007_ [00:55] edman007_: well, you only have this: |-----| far to go. :P [00:55] Hey chopp. How are you? [00:55] chopp, i'm on my laptop, xchat is installed with fink, it must not default to build with aspell [00:55] my normal desktop has xchat built with aspell [00:55] or gkspell...whetever it uses [00:56] plus...i like to blame the laptop keyboard... [00:56] edman007_: hey man, thats coming from probably the worst speller in this channel. ;) [00:56] its really high, and my chair is low, makes it awkard to type [00:56] firebird619: good, how are you. [00:56] i was trying to code...not happening :P [00:56] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:57] chopp: doing great, working on getting flux configured, I love tenner's waterdrop style. He has some other awesome ones too. [00:57] firebird619: yeah I'm using one of his on my laptop myself. forget which one though. [00:58] He has made some amazing styles, he's talented with that type of stuff. [00:58] no doubt about it. [00:59] fuck [00:59] 3rd dvd [00:59] I'm getting to really like flux. I have to get the menu and stuff all nice and everything yet though. [00:59] you [00:59] yeah fluxbox is really nice after alot of fiddling with it [00:59] f that [00:59] gnome owns all [00:59] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "gnome owns you" [00:59] firebird619: you have icons in the menu too? [00:59] tewmten: yeah, it's very nice. [01:00] chopp: No, that's possible? [01:00] you bet [01:00] Ugh, I don't like gnome. [01:00] well gnome is okay [01:00] chopp: sweet [01:00] i have it at my work desktop at office [01:00] I've used gnome before, even on slack, I just don't care for it. [01:00] yeah [01:01] firebird619: :) [01:01] ive grown away from the software wars tbh [01:01] I'd use thunar, but oh man are the icons messed up in flux with thunar. [01:01] i used to be all like "yeah slackware owns, fluxbox, fuck gnome.. fuck debian" [01:01] slackmagic: Hey, using the full path for fbsetbg and remove the session background stuff fixed it setting the wallpaper. [01:01] now i dont really care, whatever gets the job done in the best way is my preferd method [01:01] firebird619: glad to hear that [01:01] best and fastest. :) [01:01] slackmagic: and I downloaded all of tenner's styles. :) [01:02] using waterdrop right now [01:02] I'm sort of liking mc, it's not bad. [01:02] firebird619: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Faqs#How_do_I_add_icons_to_my_menu [01:03] anyone here used PCBSD? [01:03] chopp: great, thank you. [01:03] you're welcome [01:03] LinuxyErin, i thought PCBs where bad for you [01:03] yea it is kind of bad for you lol [01:03] so switch to slacks [01:03] its one of those user friendly unixes [01:03] konsole's font in mc is alot nicer than urxvt's font. [01:03] i do use slack [01:03] i'm only playing with PCB cuz i might get an internship working with it [01:03] firebird619: I already know you'll be fiddling with your styles in the new few weeks. Make sure to take a screenshot of your final theme so I can have a look at it ;) [01:04] lol i feel less comfortable using it than i do slack [01:04] cuz of how its like, user friendly lol [01:04] slackmagic: sure thing. I even got conky going. I got a, imo, a decent, yet nothing fancy, config from opendesktop.org [01:04] just say it looks like poo, kinda like ubuntu [01:04] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:05] not a huge fan of kde 4 either [01:05] i liked kde 3 much better [01:05] even though i haven't really used kde for several years [01:06] slackmagic: what file manager do you use with flux, mc, or what? [01:06] i just discovered pcman fm a few weeks ago [01:06] its the bomb [01:07] oh yeah, I had forgot about pcman fm, thanks LinuxyErin. [01:07] it even does auto mounting stuff and whatnot without the need of a desktop manager [01:07] firebird619: don't really use a file manager to best honest with you [01:07] hehe [01:07] yea [01:07] i do alot of file management from console too slack [01:07] slackmagic: just use cli commands? [01:07] but i do use a file manager when i just wanna do somethin quick [01:07] echo "Hello World!" [01:08] echo "Hello Camarade_Tux" [01:08] How are you? [01:08] world rejects you [01:08] firebird619: yep, it's been a habbit, whether good or bad I can't really tell yet hehe [01:08] lol you know i never really got into norton commander style file managers [01:08] firebird619, fine, thanks =) [01:08] the only time I really use a file manager is whenever I get a file that starts with a dash, I still have no idea how to rename that, even in quotes it won't work for me [01:08] they're kind of cool but also kind of weird to me [01:09] slackmagic: yeah. I mostly like using a file manager when I'm working with pictures so I get thumbnails, otherwise, I'm not shy of cli. [01:09] i prefer just straight up command line over them [01:09] firebird619, still good for you ? [01:09] andarius, noooooo ! ='( [01:09] Camarade_Tux: yup, still good for me. [01:09] andarius: I suppose the world rejects dead people too? :P [01:09] yes [01:09] vomits them right up [01:09] Camarade_Tux: andarius informed me that I'm dead, did you hear that news? I was unaware. [01:10] firebird619, oh, good funerals then :) [01:10] haha [01:14] firebird619: any good booze left at your place? ;) [01:14] there's some tool to use to get/set framebuffer resolution. It's like vbeset or something, anyone know the name. [01:14] fbset maybe? [01:14] BP{k}: I don't drink, so that'd be negative. [01:15] sorry [01:15] Urchlay: I'm thinking if vb something, but fbset may work also, thanks. [01:15] s/if/of [01:16] slackmagic: two ways to deal with filenames starting with a dash: #1, use something like "mv -- -file file" to rename it (the -- means "there are no more -options"), or else "mv ./-file file" [01:16] How are you BP{k}? out of booze or just looking to add some more? :) [01:16] BP{k}'s alcohol stream has too much blood in it? [01:17] haha [01:17] firebird619: out of rum! but tomorrow is another day ;) [01:17] Urchlay: many thanks for that :) , should have thought of mv ./-file newfile myself rofl [01:18] BP{k}: indeed it is. Here, it's 00:12 so it is tomorrow already. ;) [01:19] firebird619: You have died! Put on your peril-sensitive sunglasses. We are about to give you your score. Press Enter to continue [01:19] too many clones on here [01:19] lol [01:20] ah crap, Enter isn't working, I'm doomed. [01:20] use eject [01:20] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-47.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: " " [01:21] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [01:21] eject...eject...eject. :P [01:21] talk to me goose [01:21] ... Soundwave? [01:21] Where's Laserbeak? [01:21] antiwire: TopGun. Good movie. :) [01:21] bbiab [01:22] goose! [01:22] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "hopefully my bed wont eject me. my ass could use some sleep" [01:25] i think later he'll realize how weird that came across [01:25] :p [01:25] X_X [01:28] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:29] I'm back. [01:29] Action: firebird619 watches everyone run away. :P [01:29] ahhhhhh ! [01:29] my eyes!!!!!!! [01:29] Action: Camarade_Tux actually rushes into the shower [01:29] firebird619: feel better? [01:29] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] I wasn't feeling well? Aside from being dead I'm alright. :P [01:30] being dead takes alot out of ya, literally. [01:31] firebird619: you're safe..no sunlight yet [01:31] but only if you're mostly dead :) [01:31] MLanden: good to know. :) [01:32] alisonken1noc: good one from the Princess' Bride [01:32] yep - billy crystal did a good job with that one [01:33] I actually liked him better in princess bride than that city slickers [01:33] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:33] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:33] I liked everything better in Princess Bride than City Slickers. [01:34] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.23.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:34] lol i never even watched city slickers [01:34] I had to watch both I and II with the wife [01:34] jack palance did an excellent job in I, too bad he couldn't come back in II [01:35] ahh..Jack Palance...awesome actor [01:35] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:36] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-40.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:36] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-241.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [01:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:37] giuppy (n=giuppy@host247-163-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:38] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@72.252.53.30) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:40] heh, fortune: Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack. [01:42] somehow Kirk looked more serious last week ;) [01:43] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@72.252.53.30) joined ##slackware. [01:44] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-181-176.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:44] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:51] ++ =) [01:52] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [01:54] chopp: I don't have IMLIB2 support in fluxbox, I do have IMLIB2 installed, do I need to reinstall flux? [01:56] take care,folks...good luck in all life's endeavors [01:56] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.201.172) joined ##slackware. [01:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:57] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-28-84.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:58] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:59] firebird619: I have previously, but on this box I converted the icons I wanted to .xpm [01:59] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] convert blah.png blah.xpm [02:00] chopp: ok. thanks. [02:00] np [02:07] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:09] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:09] chopp: I can easily see now why you've used flux for so long, it's great. [02:10] d4vidc (n=d@74-209-6-39.dsl.elltel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:12] Nick change: superGear -> Hakudoshi [02:14] firebird619: yes to me its simplicity goes perfect with the rest of slack. [02:15] firebird619: once you've settled with the cosmetic part (theme), the menu items with icons, etc, have a look at ~/.fluxbox/keys - it's a major reason why I like fluxbox; I love using keybindings for stuff that is set up in my keys file; hence me not ever having to really think of switching fluxbox to any other WM let alone using a DE [02:15] chopp: agreed. [02:15] slackmagic: ++ [02:15] slackmagic: ok, I'll look into that, thanks. [02:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:16] does slack come with any circuitry schematic software? [02:16] don't think so [02:16] what about slackbuilds? [02:17] I'd sort of like to get a different conky theme, because I know there's much better ones out there, but this one just looks nice. There's some really nice one's here though: http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/07/8-beautiful-conky-desktop-monitor-setup/ [02:17] but spice runs on it [02:17] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/academic/ng-spice/ [02:17] Is p7zip what will open 7z files? [02:17] no idea if it's any good or not, I've only ever heard the name, never actually used it [02:17] firebird619: yes [02:18] yes [02:18] Urchlay: ok, thanks. [02:18] newb [02:18] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [02:18] "newb [02:18] ? [02:19] Hakudoshi (i=supergea@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [02:19] even if it's true, that's pretty damn rude [02:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-241.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Farewell peoples!" [02:21] firebird619: I stick to my (almost) oneliner conky config, I prefer minimalism as you can tell from my previous screenshots :) [02:21] Hakudoshi (i=1000@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: "reboot with increased INR_OPEN" [02:22] slackmagic: was conky in your screenshots? I don't remember seeing it. :P Wow, that is minimalist if it's almost invisible [02:22] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:23] greetings [02:23] The-Croupier: greetings and salutations! [02:24] firebird619: and having a bunch of systems here, some of my other system's conky configs display other things that I need to see whenever I look at the other lcds [02:25] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-d571c723ace4c9ef) joined ##slackware. [02:25] firebird619, p7zip and 7z will both extract. [02:25] bah, I can't do grammar rigth now ...other systems' conky configs [02:26] jota- (n=jota@190.6.1.152) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:27] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [02:27] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89F92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:28] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> mrselfpwn-0a [02:28] morning [02:28] ccfreak2k: ok, thanks [02:28] morning buddy [02:29] y0 slackytude. How are you? [02:29] Hi The-Croupier [02:29] morning mrselfpwn-0a , firebird619 [02:29] firebird619, still alive.... [02:29] firebird619, how are you? [02:30] slackytude: great, new opera 10 snapshot. :) [02:30] oy! [02:30] Action: slackytude is gonna check [02:30] how is your Studios going firebird619? [02:30] Im kinda paranoid right now, tho [02:30] mrselfpwn-0a: going well. [02:30] good [02:30] slackytude: why? [02:31] I wastn at work on wednsday and didnt call in to excuse myself. now Im at work again and nobody says anything -_- [02:31] slackytude: Uh oh, your in trouble. :P [02:31] Im expecting someone to jump on my any minute now [02:32] hmm [02:32] well, think of a good plan while you have the time [02:33] story/plan [02:35] If you were stranded in the desert/woods with no_gas you may have not had a signal on the phone either... [02:35] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [02:36] haha, that reminds me of the lyrics something like "went through the desert on a horse with no name" :P [02:37] haha [02:37] america [02:37] good group [02:37] yes [02:37] good song to be blaring from the radio on a m/c while on the highway :) [02:37] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl10-116-83.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [02:37] m/c ? [02:38] motorcycle/bike/etc. [02:38] ay [02:38] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.201.172) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:38] yes for m/c would be a good song [02:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.24.99) joined ##slackware. [02:39] unless you are stranded in the desert then we would curse the irony [02:39] :) [02:39] lol, it sure would. [02:40] guys, what would be a good way to clone my hdd of laptop? [02:40] maybe nobody noticed [02:40] yo The-Croupier [02:40] hiya slackytude [02:40] dd [02:40] hi firebird619 [02:40] The-Croupier: plug into your desktop and dd [02:40] antiwire, i want to do it..before bios,and user login [02:41] dd will make a perfect copy [02:41] bit for bit [02:41] i tried a couple of livecds..but the tools were only for ntfs and i have ext3 [02:41] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-025-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:41] is there anyway to intercept the Lilo start up when it is set to auto and don't have access to lilo.conf? [02:41] dd doesn't know anything about fs it is bit for bit [02:42] alisonken1noc, livecd in desktop..and plug ethernet to laptop? [02:42] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.224.123) left irc: "leaving" [02:42] The-Croupier: if it's an ide laptop drive, there's an adapter you can get to connect your laptop drive to your desktop ide cable [02:42] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89F92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:42] I keep one in my laptop bag and another one in my junk room [02:43] dd if=/dev/needtosavehdd > /dev/backuphdd would be correct? [02:43] alisonken1noc, i cannot open my desktop..its varranty is crap in greece..if you open it its gone [02:43] livecd would work? [02:44] The-Croupier: should - you just need to be able to use dd from the drive to an image somewhere else [02:44] how about livecd the laptop, usb-external-wd-hdd ? [02:44] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-67-124-150-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-240-88.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:45] that should do it - mount the usb external drive (/mnt/extusb for example: [02:45] alisonken1noc, i think i understand... i will have a go at it tonight. [02:46] dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/extusb/laptop.img [02:46] (/dev/hda being the laptop drive) [02:46] oh right of= :) [02:46] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89F92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:47] mrselfpwn-0a: try wailing on the Shift key after the POST and before LILO starts [02:47] then to put it back? :( do i use dd again or someother tool? [02:47] Ugh, why is Nick @ Nite having a marathon of "The Nanny" :( I can't stand her whiny voice. :P [02:47] okay Urchlay, thanks [02:47] mrselfpwn-0a: that ought to get you a "LILO boot:" prompt, even if timeout=0 in lilo.conf [02:47] i see [02:48] and this whole time i was pressing the "any-key" [02:48] of course if there's a lilo password set, you won't be able to do anything useful at the prompt... [02:48] right [02:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "mIRC" [02:50] The-Croupier: if it's the same size laptop drive and you use the same setup, then "dd if=/mnt/extusb/laptop.img of=/dev/hda" [02:50] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:51] in the first command there was a > is that still used.. [02:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] The-Croupier: old way, but may still work. I prefer the "of=..." format with dd since the 7.0 days [02:52] alisonken1noc, i see.. ;) thanks alot..appreciate it [02:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:54] The-Croupier: you may want to do some checks before relying on the new disk image [02:54] alisonken1noc, what do you mean [02:55] after dd'ing, boot the new disk and run some checks on it [02:56] another one would be to run md5sums on the old drive, then dd, then md5sum the new image. do the same after dd'ing to at least check that the images appear similar [02:56] ok - 'boot live cd, md5sum /dev/hda, dd, md5sum /mnt/extusb/laptop.img' [02:57] it's been 6 hours running badblocks on a 500 gig drive [02:57] do the same after dd'ing the image onto another drive [02:57] jeev: haha [02:57] The-Croupier: ^^^^ [02:57] firebird619, abnormal ? [02:58] alisonken1noc, i see. thank you [02:58] i was keeping notes [02:58] ;) [02:58] :) [02:58] jeev: I've never done it, so I couldn't say. For a 500 GB drive, I would maybe think it's normal. It somewhat depends on the system you have too, type of drive, etc. [02:59] zeroing a drive takes 4 hours on it [02:59] so i guess it'll finish soon [02:59] jeev: it should I would think. [02:59] hughszg (n=hugh_2@58.33.153.89) joined ##slackware. [02:59] The-Croupier: after you dd onto the new drive, md5sum the new hd image, then try mounting and fsck'ing without fixing as a quick check [03:00] what do you mean mounting..;) and fscking [03:01] lol [03:01] sly dog [03:02] Winter__ (n=Winter@75-121-137-254.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] The-Croupier: "dd if=/mnt/extusb/laptop.img of=/dev/hda && md5sum /dev/hda && fsck /dev/hda[partitions here] && mount /dev/hda1 " <--- just in case you were thinking of something else :) [03:02] keep the spoon [03:03] haha [03:03] rejected [03:04] alisonken1noc, ohh you mean just check the partitions in the laptop after the dd-back, and mount like normal.. ok i understand [03:04] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-122-71-57.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:04] why did you mention that...would it be a chance it would generate errors? [03:04] in the mount? or fsck or just check to be sure? [03:05] Think paranoid - you want a clone, but you need to make sure the clone doesn't head south on you [03:06] as it's your only backup [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] great...thanks [03:06] time to try that... [03:09] Wilduck (n=erik@c126h098.wless.reed.edu) left irc: No route to host [03:12] missyjane (n=hey@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [03:12] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Java user signed off" [03:12] hi how can i check if my slackware can compile and run java? sorry if i asked this again but i need to double check [03:13] i believe jre is the package you will want to have [03:13] jdk - not jre. jre is java runtime, jdk is java development [03:13] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.24.99) left irc: "Leaving" [03:14] yes, if you are building them. [03:14] thank you, i play to build java programs [03:14] and run them [03:14] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:14] if you can tell me, how can i check if i have jre and jdk? [03:15] ls /var/log/packages | grep jdk* [03:15] if you're in slackware, "ls /var/log/packages/*jre* /var/log/packages/*jdk* [03:15] " [03:15] Action: Shingoshi asks, What's your favorite screensaver? [03:15] mogunus (n=user@173-9-7-10-New-England.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:15] Hi Shingoshi, how are you? [03:15] another way is to run pkgtool, select uninstall packages, and see if you have jdk/jre packages installed [03:16] I'm good. [03:16] you don't have to uninstall, you're just getting a list of installed packages that way [03:16] no.. NOOO [03:16] no jdk [03:16] Trying to start a conversation that really doesn't matter much. [03:16] actually, i want to use a program i have for a screensaver though everytime i run it my it goes into some loop and eats all my memory and i have to init 1 [03:17] Shingoshi: I just have the screensaver set to being random, never know what you're gonna get. [03:17] My favorite is Noof! Haven't gone back to anything else since I started using it. [03:17] lol [03:17] ok [03:17] sorry for bothering you guys [03:17] ty [03:17] missyjane (n=hey@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:18] but once i get it to work Shingoshi it will be little bunnies that fly up and explode into little pieces making a fireworks effect. [03:18] haha [03:18] Look at Noof. It has a fireworks effect too! [03:18] Especially on fast processors. [03:19] hmm, are they little bunnies that explode? [03:19] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@72.252.53.30) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:19] No. Just take a look at it. It's not bunnies. But it will keep you distracted. [03:20] It's in the OpenGL section. [03:20] heh, i'll check it out then [03:20] You don't have to keep it. [03:20] actually, do you know how i might get my program to run as a screen saver? [03:20] I just want to see if you get hypnotized! [03:20] I have no idea. [03:21] Come on folks. Reveal something about yourselves. Screensavers used? [03:22] noof is pretty cool though i prefer little bunnies that explode if that is revealing enough. [03:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:22] LOL [03:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.195.176) joined ##slackware. [03:23] I try to imagine flying a spaceship through that maze of insanitly. [03:23] reveal something, I thought this was ##slackware, not #oprah. :P [03:23] lol [03:23] Reminds me of the badlands in Deep Space Nine. [03:24] Until i get mine working my personal favorite is the Blank Screen Only one. It is so mesmerizing. [03:24] It's the simple things in which we express our personalities. [03:25] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:25] redtricycle1 (n=lionel@adsl-67-124-150-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [03:25] lol, "#oprah" [03:26] I'm getting a new heatsink on Tuesday. Hopefully I'll be able to raise my clock speeds even higher than now. [03:26] Then my screensaver will really scream. lol [03:26] mrselfpwn-0a: notice, it's an official channel too. :P [03:26] usr_local (n=usr_loca@94.23.115.159) left irc: "leaving" [03:26] Then you would get older faster. You sure you want that Shingoshi? [03:27] PingFloyd (n=pingfloy@adsl-75-23-41-51.dsl.lgvwtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] I'm getting older no matter what I do. I'd rather get old distracted from knowing that I'm getting old!! [03:27] LOL [03:28] Maybe better to underclock and reverse the aging process imo. [03:29] hmm, i should write a book. [03:29] Nah! I want to get my system over 3 GHz on my quad-core. [03:29] after watching this "weee look at my screensaver" I'll *need* #oprah [03:29] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:29] heh [03:29] Shingoshi: 3GL fireworks or blank screen, usually [03:29] Right now, it's a measly 2.95 GHz [03:30] hey, Shingoshi. What cpu intensive apps do you run? [03:30] Firefox is the most of all. [03:31] great stuff bud [03:31] Although. I just killed Lancelot last night, after finding out it alone was raising my cpu temps. [03:32] try L.O.R.D. You will need the cpu cycles for that one. ;) [03:32] I had my temps drop by 10C. Just from Lancelot alone. [03:32] Is that a game? I don't have a joystick if it needs one. [03:33] No joystick required. I do suggest Syncterm though. [03:33] syncterm? [03:34] http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/ [03:35] I'm looking at it now. [03:36] :) [03:36] bbl [03:36] bbs [03:37] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system [03:39] jgor (n=jgor@r74-192-150-204.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] NO. I meant be back later! [03:41] oh :) [03:41] Are you running a precompiled binary for this? [03:41] No, it is a stand-alone app [03:41] you grab it extract it and then run it [03:42] I meant syncterm. [03:42] yes [03:42] it is precompiled binary [03:42] Ok. I need to figure out how to compile it. [03:42] no you just run it [03:43] the source doesn't have a Makefile in the root directory of the tarball. [03:43] change the name of it from syncterm -linux to syncterm then place it in /usr/local/bin/ [03:43] I downloaded the source. I only use sources. [03:43] bro, if you get the regular file there is only one app [03:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.29.19) joined ##slackware. [03:44] after you put the one file in /usr/local/bin/ when you type syncterm on your normal terminal it will pop up. :) [03:46] KyNs (n=JRosy@81.85.214.15) joined ##slackware. [03:46] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:47] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:49] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151064087.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [03:51] or you may type it in your run command or add a syncterm.desktop file so you don't have to worry with the terminal to run it. [03:54] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.230.35) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Where would I find LORD? [03:55] aside from the obvious references, you can try google :) [03:55] slackmagic: If you're still around, this is a nice fluxbox/conky setup: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3509876921_bdce3cbf5a_o.jpg [03:55] Did it occur to you how commonplace the word LORD is? [03:56] Shingoshi, it does and it's all i have some references for you one sec. [03:57] Blikjeha1 (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:58] mrselfpwn-0a: My comment was directed to alisonken1noc, not you. [03:58] i understand that. [03:58] Shingoshi: :) [03:58] I can think of better ways to FIND JESUS!! [03:59] though if you type L.O.R.D it will come up. [03:59] other than that, you can also add dash tags to remove some of the obvious as well as adding 'program' (among other things) [03:59] right... add common sense to your search query and you will get some results [03:59] Which would likely bring up BibleTime. [03:59] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:00] And since he didn't even say what LORD was, I have no tags to look for it. [04:00] -bibletime [04:00] in syncterm hit ctrl+d to bring up your connect option and put in lord.nuklear.org [04:00] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:00] that is a bbs server dedicated to lord [04:01] if you would like to play on the server i play on it is bbs.hak5.org [04:01] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [04:01] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.248) joined ##slackware. [04:01] You see, now I know what to look for. LORD dragon [04:01] not entirely dedicated to lord though many people play. :) [04:02] superGear (i=1000@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Necos_ (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] Hakudoshi (i=1000@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] Legend of the Red Dragon. yes [04:02] Let me check this out. be back later [04:02] don't forget to overclock first ;) [04:02] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Connection timed out [04:03] This is an online game only, right? [04:03] yep [04:03] Nothing to download [04:03] nope [04:04] ok [04:04] I can use my own terminal with telnet. [04:04] yes though it probably doesn't support the ansi graphics as SyncTERM does [04:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:05] basically it will look like crap. [04:05] fevel_ (n=fevel@189.4.230.35) left irc: Connection timed out [04:05] I think Aterm does. [04:05] not sure [04:05] I have quite a few terminals to choose from. [04:06] when you enter the game there should be legible color pictures if you don't see them then use syncterm. [04:06] sQuEE (n=narya@host62.201-252-26.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:07] imo i would use it anyway as it is a dedicated program for it and it is very small and unobtrusive. :) [04:07] rxvt-unicode might work just fine. [04:07] you can try though I haven't had much luck. [04:07] I have to create an account first. [04:08] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [04:09] I'm gonna say that rxvt won't work. [04:09] KyNs (n=JRosy@81.85.214.15) left irc: "Leaving" [04:09] rxvt/xterm/etc would work, if you (a) turned off all unicode/utf8 support, and (b) used a font that has the old IBM VGA characters [04:10] right [04:10] the IBM is key [04:10] google for "vga.bdf" or "vga.pcf", you probly will find exactly the font you need [04:10] though i've only tryed using the IBM vga in terminal (for xfce) and it did not work correctly. [04:11] right or just use syncterm [04:11] slacknode (n=m@c-67-190-47-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] syncterm = what, a windows app? bleah [04:11] no [04:11] it's multi-platform [04:12] being an old-timey xterm user, I'd go out of my way to make it work correctly in xterm, just because I already have 8 or 10 of them open [04:12] Action: Shingoshi reads the rules! [04:12] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.249) joined ##slackware. [04:12] I would to Urchlay though i didn't know the correct font to use and didn't get much on my google quest. [04:13] to have a file's permission set to ( -rw-r--r-- ), chmod 06xx ? [04:13] 0644 [04:13] thanks [04:13] Urchlay, are those the correct fonts to use? [04:13] vga.bdf" or "vga.pcf [04:14] yeah [04:14] cool, thanks man [04:14] will it interfere with other apps setting the terminal to use those? [04:14] without the IBM font, rxvt works for me, but it's a bit odd-looking [04:15] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [04:15] yes [04:15] eh, well, if you do anything that involves unicode (foreign language, non-ASCII) characters, it'll look weird with the ibm vga font [04:15] TAiL- (n=Larsson@81-233-217-124-no25.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:15] TAiL- (n=Larsson@81-233-217-124-no25.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [04:15] <_RadioHead> morning [04:15] hola [04:15] <_RadioHead> echo Urchlay :) [04:15] TAiL- (n=Larsson@81-233-217-124-no25.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:16] yes, see that was my qualm for that route Urchlay. [04:16] <_RadioHead> how are you Urchlay dude :) [04:16] mrselfpwn-0a: well it's possibly to run "rxvt -fn vga" to run just one rxvt with that font, without it affecting any others [04:16] What's up with the romantic mail? Is this a game, or a dating site? Geez! [04:16] Shingoshi: you're getting BBS spam? [04:16] that is a good idea [04:16] _RadioHead: insomniac as usual [04:16] lol [04:17] Action: Urchlay hasn't played LORD in... 13 years? 14? *shrug* [04:17] Shingoshi. Check out bbs.hak5.org That is the one i play one. [04:17] s/one/on [04:17] <_RadioHead> :) [04:18] it also has some pretty cool files for downloading :) [04:18] hm, "rxvt -fn vga" works perfectly for me. Wonder where I got this vga font, I've probably had it for years.. [04:18] yes probaly [04:19] do you know which one you have Urchlay? [04:19] $ ls -l vga.pcf [04:19] Later guys. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. Take Care. [04:19] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24632 2008-08-07 18:06 vga.pcf [04:19] ahh nice [04:19] thx [04:20] $ md5sum vga.pcf [04:20] 1a9b00a5038e60e851b8439fedb29576 vga.pcf [04:20] tmi buddy [04:20] if that helps any. I'd DCC it to you, if I weren't behing a lame-ass little router that I can't be bothered to mess with [04:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:20] i see. [04:20] i understand [04:20] thanks for the info [04:21] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:21] <_RadioHead> later firebird619 :) [04:21] a while back I got real interested in oddball X fonts [04:21] hehe [04:22] made X fonts out of the Atari 800 and Commodore 64 8x8 fonts [04:22] I have the colored fonts. What else did you think I was supposed to have? [04:22] use them exactly never, these days :) [04:22] hey, without ftfm do you know how to implement it in the xfce terminal. that is the one i use [04:22] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.195.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:22] rtfm :) [04:22] I'm already in the game now. [04:22] I've never once even run the xfce terminal, am the wrong guy to ask... [04:23] awesome. on bbs.hak5.org Shingoshi? [04:23] FTFM would be the response when someone tells you to RTFM? [04:23] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:23] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasnet-ff06dd00-179.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:23] I was asking why the insistence on syncterm? rxvt-unicode works fine. [04:23] no it was a typo. :S [04:24] I only suggested it Shingoshi [04:24] shingoshidao [04:24] My non-linux nick. [04:24] though i don't think it is working like it's supposed to even though you think it is. [04:24] I'll find out soon enough. [04:25] i don't have the unicode version so i can't say bud. :/ [04:26] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-47.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] hm. I would expect rxvt-unicode to fail, and regular non-unicode rxvt to work [04:27] agreed [04:27] you will need the font specified by Urchlay [04:28] anyway IIRC the gameplay isn't really affected if the font is wrong, the line-drawing stuff is only used for decorations [04:28] did you ever play Trade Wars? [04:29] no [04:29] it's pretty good? [04:29] Action: Shingoshi reads the rules! [04:30] Shingoshi, which server are you on? [04:30] yeah, trade wars was a lot of fun [04:30] Haven't started playing yet. [04:30] nice, i'll check it out [04:30] Shingoshi, you connect to the server first and formost [04:31] did you use lord.nuclear.org or bbs.hak5.org ? [04:31] yes. with rxvt-unicode. [04:31] lol, there is a game called Pimp Wars on my bbs Urchlay [04:32] lord.nuclear.org [04:32] Slackwarer (n=Slackwar@41.252.63.163) joined ##slackware. [04:32] ahhh Shingoshi. again you will probably not see the game correctly with rxvt-unicode. [04:33] also, join bbs.hak5.org [04:34] i'll send you some gold ;) [04:35] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [04:35] txz galore! [04:36] pimp wars... might be a variant of "dope wars", which I remember being amusing [04:36] yes, dope wars is fun [04:36] umislack (i=1000@58.64.90.8) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:37] I'm trying to decide why am I there. I typically stay away from these games. [04:37] you will find it a very addictive game even being text based [04:38] and why would you stay away from something so fun? [04:38] whatever [04:38] guys I've a problem to locate the packages after installing them (noob) [04:38] I have a different definition of fun. [04:38] spending too much time overclocking for your firefox ? [04:38] Slackwarer: look in /var/log/packages [04:39] I overclock so that I can build packges. [04:39] ty Urchaly [04:39] Slackwarer: one file per package, named after the package... in that file is the package description and a list of all the files in the package [04:39] The faster, the better. [04:39] Okay bud well to each his own. Atleast you learned something new? [04:39] yes [04:39] why is build speed so important? Ideally, you only build a package once, so let it take 10 minutes instead of 1 minute, what's the hurry? [04:40] inside is actually a list of files that were pulled from the tarball package [04:40] But I am thinking of buying a joystick for FlightGear. [04:40] yeah, and you can play L.O.R.D. while it compiles XD [04:40] NOpe. I have a working copy of it from Slacky.eu. And it's the latest. [04:41] slacknode (n=m@c-67-190-47-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:41] huh? [04:41] copy of what? [04:42] FlightGear: http://dogbert.no-root.org/slackware-12.2/ [04:42] oh i see [04:42] is it good fun? [04:43] Technical. But yes, likely. I need a joystick. [04:43] I' [04:43] I'd rather fly! [04:43] haven't played it though was looking for a good flight game for a buddy of mine. [04:43] Action: Urchlay still thinks Zaxxon is a fun "flight" game [04:43] It's for Linux and Windows. [04:43] heh [04:44] FlightGear. At least I think it is. [04:44] does it have dogfights Shingoshi? he wants those. [04:44] Cannot install ///home/Slackwarer/Programs/phonetooth-0.5.1.tar.gz: package does not end in .tgz [04:44] RESULT=3 [04:44] Channel flood from Slackwarer -- kicking [04:44] [04:44] Slackwarer kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [04:44] http://www.flightgear.org [04:45] ty [04:45] Slackwarer (n=Slackwar@41.252.63.163) joined ##slackware. [04:45] Urchlay: does that mean the package installed correctly? [04:46] Slackwarer: You need the xz package first. [04:46] it is tar.gz [04:46] Slackwarer, that is the source. You can build your own tgz package from it easily. [04:46] *hd* [04:46] xz does not apply though you may want to pick that up as the new slackware packages ARE txz [04:46] Then if it's precompiled, you need to extract it in your root directory. [04:46] do you mean compiling the source of the package and get executables? [04:47] yes Slackwarer [04:47] wow [04:47] you will ideally have a slackware tgz package in the end which you can install with pkgtools [04:47] Slackwarer, you have some reading to do before you can use linux: http://slackbook.org [04:48] so I have to know which language each source written with then use the equivelant compiler ... am I right? [04:48] no [04:48] actually i'm still reading that [04:48] usually you just run "./configure" then "make" [04:49] yes [04:49] I just compiled phonetooth in a few seconds using src2pkg. [04:50] I'll check the package contents now to verify how it built. [04:50] though if you want to do it so you have a package you can install/uninstall at will (while some source archives don't include an uninstall feature) create a slackware tgz file [04:51] i use a script called sbsuite.rb created by jkwoods. it works well. [04:51] Slackwarer, keep in mind that you don't have to build yourself every piece of software you need to install though [04:52] Slackwarer, there are plenty of official slackware packages, and you might wanna have a look at slackbuilds.org too [04:52] yes [04:53] spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:54] thanks for all the answers folks ... can't stop myself from trying things before going through my first reading on linux OS [04:54] I really wish you would [04:54] i keep looking to my other pc and spiting on windowx vista [04:54] can't never could and won't never will Slackwarer [04:55] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] sup slackers ;) [05:56] so why we're supposed to compile the packages before isntalling them [05:57] Slackwarer, there are plenty of official slackware packages [05:57] ttyx: trying to find out what i don't know about packages and installations on slackware [05:57] spiki [05:57] you don't have to compile packages [05:57] there are many repositories with packages prepared for slackware [05:58] is there some place that i can read specifically about packages installation on slackware [05:58] packages types [05:58] some good, some not so good, some considered bad... but you do not need to compile if you don't want to [05:58] Slackwarer: slackbook.org [05:59] just stay away from slacky [05:59] slackfind.net might be of help if you need to find packages... [05:59] ttyX: reason? [05:59] ttyX: they are not so bad [05:59] why i can't directly install install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz using kpackage? [05:59] they compile against their version of gnome [05:59] Slackwarer: .tar.gz is NOT slackware package.... tgz is [06:00] so most of the times they dont work with base slack installs [06:00] ttyx: what is slacky? website? [06:00] slacky.eu [06:00] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [06:00] they've got a repo [06:00] ttyX: come on :) [06:00] spiki: what package is tar.gz? [06:00] and yes its a community [06:00] hi. 12.1 wasn't shipped with a ctags like program? [06:01] .tar.gz normaly is source package... not installable slackware package... for that look at extension .tgz [06:01] Knightingale: search package browser [06:01] Slackwarer: just go to slackfind.net , install what you need and read slackbook.org [06:02] hrm.. says its packed with vim [06:02] Knightingale: vim has it [06:02] spiki, now that slackware has migrated to txz people will at last stop getting confused with tar.gz and tgz ;) [06:02] I'm currently reading slackbook-2.0.pdf Slackware Linux Essentials [06:03] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:03] guys: how long for a stupid and slow reader user like myself to get used and become a good linux user? [06:03] Slackwarer: wait for slackbook 3.0 :p [06:04] lol ttyx [06:04] well, i've actually seen fair number of tar gnuzipped (.tar.gz) archives with .tgz extension in the past (which were not slackware packages) [06:04] what is so big deal with 3.0 book? [06:04] revised edition [06:04] will cover all the new stuff [06:04] like txz hopefully [06:05] are the new txz packages implemented already in v12.1? [06:05] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [06:05] nope [06:06] next slack release [06:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] oh man .... i can't wait untill then ... ms windows is pissing the crap off me [06:06] Slackwarer, the latest release is 12.2 [06:07] yeah i know zx10k1 ... but i've limited download gigs on my adsl connection [06:07] mrselfpwn-0a (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:07] Action: ttyX hates limits [06:08] Slackwarer, read the current book it should work too .. you can ask questions here if you got problems.. but dont just say how to do that [06:08] come on. slackware is worth couple of gigs of dl [06:08] ALVAN: i just did, didn't I? [06:09] spiki: but nothing wrong with v12.1 [06:09] well i dont know ..you tell me then :) [06:09] i've been seeding slack 12.2 since day one, i'm wondering how far has it got yet [06:09] ALVAN: i have zero problem to ask anything cross my mind to ak [06:09] ask [06:09] lol [06:09] done 3962.5 MB Rate: 73.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 2672690.3 MB [ R: 674.50] [06:09] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] i know everything is there on google ...... but i prefer here [06:10] you can upgrade after to 12.2 ... 12.1 should work too but 12.2 has security fixes and other bugs fixed [06:10] zx10k1: n1 [06:10] those don't wanna answer .... can just ignore it ... np :) [06:10] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:10] well, I'm very tolarent to this security issues ALVAN [06:10] slackpkg will do it for u [06:11] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [06:11] i've got nothing important on this laptop ... it's bascaily for learning linux [06:11] my lappy is also linux playground :p [06:12] tell me ttyx ... is possible to install nothing but linux [06:12] i mean no GNU packages or anything other than pure linux [06:12] yes [06:12] its aclled lfs [06:12] so one can get used to linux alone [06:12] linux from scratch [06:13] lfs [06:13] cool [06:13] i was thinking if it doable on a memory stick [06:13] Slackwarer: for that we have slax [06:13] live distros based on slackware [06:13] distro* [06:13] Razec (n=razec@187-26-133-134.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [06:14] slax .. i read some about it [06:14] i thought it an egyption shit [06:14] look dude ... i don't like anything which is arab (( including myself )) haha [06:14] lol [06:14] its not [06:14] oh good then [06:14] i'll give a try [06:15] if u want a light weight slack based distro then there's parted magic [06:15] some `90mb [06:15] there is also Zenwalk based on Slackware and it has an usb installation image [06:15] what is parted magic? [06:15] parted magic is used for partitioning [06:15] its like partition magic for linux [06:15] no guys ... i don't want slackware on memory stick ... i want pure linux core or kernel [06:16] Slackwarer: tinycore linux? [06:16] its 10 mb lol [06:16] whatever you call it ... just linux and command shell and so i can get my mono-cell brain focusing on doing one thing at a time [06:16] I hope you know linux is the kernel basically [06:16] yeah i hope i do know that one too :) [06:17] You can perform a base slack install [06:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat079.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] if u wanna stay away from gui [06:17] it's 2.6 now right? [06:17] yes [06:17] yeah ... and also if i can mount ntfs disks on that one [06:18] for that you'll need ntfs-3g [06:18] so i can backup other hdds without getting these damn spywares and viruses spreading through windows os [06:18] which si present in slack [06:18] is* [06:18] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:18] ntfs-3g is a package i saw it in var/log/packages [06:19] yep [06:19] Slackwarer (n=Slackwar@41.252.63.163) left irc: "Leaving" [06:19] Slackwarer (n=Slackwar@41.252.63.163) joined ##slackware. [06:19] ttyX: he wants pure linux. kernel only! :) [06:20] one leet newb i must say [06:20] lol [06:20] oh man are you gonna explain what leet is or what shall i find a working e2r dictionry for slackware? [06:20] lol [06:21] why i'm getting dc anyway (toastytoast has quit (Remote closed the connection)) [06:21] ntfs-3g is a package i saw it in /var/log/packages [06:22] there's a saying in the linux community [06:22] nah. i bet he is just trolling for amusement [06:22] leet is someone who learns how to find the answers for themselves :P [06:22] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.65.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.199.230) joined ##slackware. [06:23] oh that is a good one then ... thanks spiki ^_^ [06:23] anything with trolling for amusement? [06:23] There is a saying in the Linux community that if you learn Red Hat, you'll know Red Hat, but if you learn Slackware, you'll know Linux [06:24] yeah i read that two days ago ttyx [06:24] and i have just loved that saying [06:24] so the conclusion [06:25] apparently i want to learn nix os neither red no brow hats [06:25] almost all linux tuts available apply to slack one way or the other [06:25] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:28] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: "leaving" [06:28] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [06:29] guys: you could just help me to mount this external hdd so that the linux vedio tuts i have on it would spare you some time :) [06:30] i can't get it mounted while not SU [06:30] Slackwarer, most probably they won't even play [06:30] in the meantime i don't wanna logout all the opened windows [06:30] sinsce you don't have mplayer installed [06:30] niether vlc I assume [06:30] i can download & install that [06:30] since* [06:31] i did realplyer yesterday Wooohaaaaaa [06:31] C_Tux (n=86d6328a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39c62f6aacfa5c8c) joined ##slackware. [06:31] just download & double click the bin file ... the same win xp feeling [06:31] Action: ttyX is allergic to realplayer [06:32] that reminds me I've to compile mplayer [06:32] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:32] yeah i had such since yesterday when i used that word in the channel [06:33] sense* [06:33] people almost revolted against me [06:34] slackers are saints you must've done something wrong :p [06:34] TAiL- (n=Larsson@81-233-217-124-no25.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [06:34] paissad_ (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:35] real player, baaaaaaaaah ! [06:35] nothing real ... i just asked how to install realplayer and i think that was more than enough [06:35] run for life? [06:35] lol [06:35] Slackwarer: yeah, run for your life ! [06:35] mplayer does it all why realplayer [06:36] C_Tux: that is different of spirit between noobs and experts [06:36] installing realplayer is a crime :p [06:36] we (noobs) have no issues using or doing any stupid thing ^_^ [06:36] ttyx: i used to do things then ask questions [06:36] :) [06:37] you can't break slackware that easy [06:37] Slackwarer: we should burn you for having installed realplayer ! [06:38] I'm acutally one of many volderking fans, there is no need to break slackware [06:38] burn? [06:38] no to be hanged tll death muhahah [06:38] :D [06:38] C_Tux: lol [06:38] ttyX: we can probably hung him in a fire :) [06:39] that sounds good ;) [06:39] i may use on of those linux shells [06:39] one* [06:39] shells won't do you any good if you can't get em up ontime [06:40] do you know what is funny ttyx? i thought each linux distro comes with single shell [06:40] bash only on slackware for example [06:41] slackware has nearly all the shells by default ;p [06:41] this is how things go wrong when i'm reading in english :( [06:41] breaking it is one way to get started learning how to fix it [06:41] Urchlay, maybe the only way actually ;p [06:41] Urchlay, you can't fxi something you can't break :p [06:41] fix* [06:42] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:43] yeah, being able to break something is necessary but not sufficient to learning to fix it [06:43] well, there is no good books for linux in arabic, so i have to read things more than once to get them through my thick skull [06:43] (otherwise I'd be good at fixing cars...) [06:43] Slackwarer: you seem to write English pretty well [06:43] ttyX, if he does not have important data he can break it couple of times .. this way he learn only .. wondering if you did not ever break a linux ;) [06:44] libs are stripped in slackware, right (not on slackware right now) [06:44] oh thanks for the compliment Urchlay [06:44] ? [06:44] C_Tux: yes [06:44] Urchlay, ok, thanks [06:44] most of the time I think stripped libs are a good thing [06:45] every once in a while I need to debug one and it makes me want to scream [06:45] what do you guys mean by breaking linux? [06:45] and what is the stripped libs? [06:45] Slackwarer, read english books most of the commands and errors are in english .. so you better read only english books [06:46] Slackwarer: well, not deliberately *breaking* it, but you'll learn a lot from your mistakes [06:46] paissad (n=paissad@224.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] yeah i'm slackware linux essentials right now [06:46] stripped libs = dynamic libraries that have no debugging information (makes them smaller) [06:47] I needed those debugging informations actually ;p [06:47] but if you have a program that's somehow using a library wrongly (causing a crash somewhere inside the library's code), and you're trying to use a debugger to figure out why, not having debug symbols basically makes it impossible to see what's going on [06:51] do they have specific file types on linux like windows dlls? [06:52] lol@ubuntu : I mistyped less and typed 'les' instead, rather than just failing, it told me to install atm-tools >< [06:52] Action: ttyX is allergic to buntus also [06:52] I [06:53] *only* need gnome-autogen ! [06:53] dlls (dynamically linked libraries) exist on Linux, yes. Normally they're named something.so instead of something.dll, and normally they're kept in /lib or /usr/lib [06:53] wondering what ttyx isn't allergic to! [06:53] Slackwarer, myself? [06:54] oic ... i'm gonna write this one down Urchlay ... fanx [06:54] ok, mistyped mv in mb, ubuntu told me to install mrbayes [06:54] ... [06:54] C_Tux: how does that actually work on debian/ubuntu? does it actually grep the package lists to find out "this command exists somewhere in Debian, but is not installed"? [06:54] (not my keyboard) [06:55] Urchlay: searching, but they broke which : it can't say when a command is nowhere to be found... [06:55] or do you have e.g. a /usr/bin/les that's a symlink that points to some master "this command not installed" command? [06:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:55] Urchlay: no, no symlink [06:55] C_Tux, you need that for your browser? [06:55] but any command is terribly long to get executed [06:56] (non-existing, and still as long even if you do it several times) [06:56] ttyX: yep :p [06:56] yuck [06:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:56] is that ubuntu only, or does real debian do the same thing now? [06:56] I need gobject-introspection files, and some of them only come in a git repository for which there is no configure of course [06:57] (and no corresponding tarball) [06:57] btw, I resumed work on my browser, currently writing better language bindings to webkit-gtk [06:57] speaking of browsers which is mroe secure, firefox, konqueror or seamonkey? [06:57] Urchlay: I don't think debian does it [06:57] Slackwarer: hmmmmm [06:57] Slackwarer, none [06:58] C_Tux: in the git checkout, is there an "autogen.sh"? try running that, if so (it'll generate a configure script) [06:58] certainly not firefox, seamonkey is nearly the same, so *maybe* konqueror (because the others really suck) [06:58] the more userbase you get the more vulnerable you are [06:58] Urchlay: there is, but it needs gnome-autogen ! [06:58] why konqueror isn't capable of browsing the new msn mailbox? [06:58] heh [06:58] msn on linux is a crime [06:58] :p [06:59] Slackwarer: msn's mailbox fault ;) [06:59] Slackwarer: quite possibly, because microsoft deliberately changed the msn web site to make sure it wouldn't work in konqueror [06:59] muhaha, if I run 'strace les', strace can't find it [06:59] (not knowing anything about msn, I don't really know) [06:59] set's output [06:59] command_not_found_handle () [06:59] C_Tux: yeah, it's got to be some sort of stoopid shell trick [06:59] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [06:59] /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/command-not-found -- $1; [07:00] ok, that's why it's so slow, it needs to start python every time... [07:00] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: i reconfigure my raid1 again :) [07:00] _RadioHead: this time, is it big enough for the filesystem that lives on it? [07:01] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: this time i go for clean raid1 with /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdd1 no missing this time :) , because last time when i did what you advice what todo , again i got same problem ... [07:01] _RadioHead: actually from talking to you the other night, it occurred to me to do the opposite of what you did: I ejected one partition from a raid1 array and found that I can mount it by itself (not part of a raid) just fine [07:02] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: it is problem if i don`t do MKFS? coz already it is reiserfs on sdb1 [07:02] yes, no doing a mkfs is what caused your problem [07:02] er, not doing a mkfs [07:02] I can't cook anything on my lappy now :( [07:02] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: then i will do now . [07:02] ttyX: fan started working again? [07:03] yeah cleaned it all up [07:03] works like a charm [07:03] won't go over 50 now [07:03] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: logicaly what i did that day , should work since it is simulating noe failed drive... but ill try to mkreiser. and see if i get same problem [07:03] can imagine what kinda nasty gunk came out... I had to do the same for my low-profile "media PC" box, it was unbelievable [07:04] _RadioHead: correct me if I'm wrong but, this is what you tried? [07:04] Step 1: mkreiserfs /dev/sdb1 [07:04] the command not found magic actually exists in debian but it not installed by default afaik [07:04] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [07:04] step 2: mdadm --create (whatever the syntax is, to create an array containing /dev/sdb1) [07:04] step 3: mount the new raid array [07:04] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:05] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: already i have sdb1 with reiser AND 200gb data inside (OK i backed up my data) [07:05] is that right? [07:05] my lappy sure has a muscle heatsink with two fans and three copper heatpipes [07:05] (OK, so, step 1.5 would be "fill /dev/sdb1 with data", in between steps 1 and 2?) [07:05] and a heavy aluminium frameofc [07:06] Tyrael (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:07] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.199.230) left irc: Success [07:07] hello [07:07] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: sorry confusing you , sdb1 and sdd1 have reiserfs with data , now if i do mdadm --create /dev/md0 level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdd1 now it is NOT neccesary to mkreiserfs /dev/md0 ? [07:08] how do you get rid fo the line that wc adds after every execution ? [07:08] 1. Change sda fs type to Linux RAID Autodetect, 2. sfdisk -d /dev/sda1 | sfdisk /dev/sdb1 3. mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 missing [07:08] agiofws@ixus:~/test6$ls -l | cut -c -10 | sort | uniq [07:08] drwxr-xr-x [07:08] -rw-r--r-- [07:08] Channel flood from Agiofws -- kicking [07:08] total 24 [07:08] ? [07:08] Agiofws kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:08] srry guys [07:08] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: already did. [07:09] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:09] Vi^3PirePengy (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [07:09] <_RadioHead> thx Urchlay Zordrak , trying now... [07:09] mdadm --add /dev/sdb1 [07:09] _RadioHead: it IS necessary to mkreiserfs /dev/md0 in that case [07:09] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f69-65.fdsl.aegean.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-45e3489c04fe1bfa) joined ##slackware. [07:09] it appears to work at first, if you don't, but then you start getting the errors you got earlier (attempt to access beyond end of device) [07:09] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [07:10] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] Agiofws: what are you trying to do? [07:10] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:10] <_RadioHead> Urchlay: so best option is mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdx1 /dev/sdy1 and mkfs on md0 , then get data back [07:10] <_RadioHead> on md0 [07:10] alice_c, wc -l counts an unwanted line ... [07:11] ok my wrong [07:11] _RadioHead: yes [07:11] how do i tell ls -l to exclude total ? [07:11] cleanest method is to start array, mkfs on it, mount it then copy data onto it [07:11] you know what. The best option I can think of: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 and whatever option you need, to tell it "/dev/sdb1 is part of the array but it's missing" [07:11] im doing that myself right now [07:11] Urchlay: that was my original suggestion [07:11] Agiofws: "ls -l | grep -v ^total" [07:11] *then*, mkfs the array, mount /dev/sdb1, copy the data over [07:12] alisonken1noc, you think there will be some kind of option that ls has ? [07:12] C_Tux (n=86d6328a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39c62f6aacfa5c8c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [07:12] *then*, umount /dev/sdb1, change its type to linux raid auto, and use mdadm to hot-add it to the array [07:12] boys & girls ... what should I click on my kde to run C compiler? [07:12] not that I've found - but I haven't tried every option yet :) [07:12] Zordrak: ah. I didn't quite get what you were saying [07:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-45e3489c04fe1bfa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] Agiofws: ^^^^ [07:13] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: Urchlay : thx. doing clean raid1 and mkfs my md0 [07:13] Slackwarer: Konsole, or whatever it's called. The terminal. Trying to run the compiler by clicking on it, won't do anything [07:13] Slackwarer, kdevelop [07:13] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-d8b5a48106aec672) joined ##slackware. [07:13] ok i'm into the terminal now .. then what? [07:13] kdevelop != the compiler... can you use it as a GUI for building stuff from source? [07:14] any special command afterwards? [07:14] Slackwarer: you need to go away and read. Read A LOT [07:14] Slackwarer: dont bothel poeple in here till you have a vague idea of what you're doing [07:14] s/bothel/bother/ [07:14] yes Zordrak ... I'm sure I'll bore untill that happens ^_^ [07:14] Slackwarer: normally, you extract the source (tar xvf file.tar.gz), cd into the directory created by that, then "./configure" and "make"... but Zordrak is right, you won't have much success until you learn what all that stuff means [07:15] oic ...... [07:16] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: ":wq" [07:16] the problem is that i'm impatient slow reader [07:16] yeah but [07:16] brb [07:16] when you ask us a question, we have to type the answer, and you have to read it [07:17] it saves a lot of time if you find some documentation where the answers are already typed, and you just read them in order... [07:18] Urchlay: the only way I know is to refuse help when lack of effort or reading is apparant [07:18] such as in this case [07:18] now that makes real sense ... Urchlay [07:18] thanks for your time anyway [07:19] Zordark ... you are not much of help anyway so stop braging [07:19] eh, he just said he wasn't trying to help :)_ [07:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:19] wondering if he ever did [07:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151064087.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:19] brb [07:20] that's the way to thank people for being helped... [07:20] nice [07:20] :P [07:20] If it wasnt going to confuse me when the idiot returns i would plonk him right now [07:21] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [07:25] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:25] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-180-166.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:25] kama (n=kama@87.19.180.88) joined ##slackware. [07:27] greetings again ..;) [07:29] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [07:29] The-Croupier, Hi [07:31] Any ideas how to force a live-release of a disk device? Im playing with a RAID and hot-removed a SATA disk, but re-adding it's getting assigned sdi not sdc (even on subsequent attempts) suggesting udev has locked the sdc device [07:31] kama (n=kama@87.19.180.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:32] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [07:33] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: "Leaving" [07:34] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-17-99.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:34] frullet (n=Bob@124-170-240-88.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:35] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:35] evening [07:35] Zordrak : that's normal, new devices on the scsi bus will be enumerated [07:37] ananke: can i not play with it? ie release sdc, remove the disk thats now sdi, kill the dynamic rule for sdi and plug it back in to get it as sdc? [07:37] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:40] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasnet-ff06dd00-179.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:41] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] headbrake (n=headbrak@78.134.13.248) left irc: "Leaving" [07:43] would have thought it would be possible to sort this without a reboot since udev got all fancy [07:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: Urchlay now should all be ok :) waiting disks to sync and then see . [07:46] Slackwarer (n=Slackwar@41.252.63.163) left irc: "Leaving" [07:47] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [07:51] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. 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[08:35] alienBOB: hello! :D [08:35] alienBOB: i have problem with current, after upgrade from 12.2 to current the lvm dont work... look error >> http://images.cjb.net/a8421.png [08:36] Trey__ (n=Trey@dblt-216-227-24-77.gtcom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] rworkman: hello! [08:40] :D [08:40] whoa there.. settle down youngin' [08:40] toastytoast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:41] fevel (n=fevel@189.4.230.35) left irc: [08:44] Dominian: morning [08:44] morning alisonken1noc [08:44] YOu at work or at home getting ready for bed? lol [08:44] hows tricks [08:45] night shift - go home in 1/2 hour [08:45] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:45] 6 is the magic number of the day :) [08:45] hehe [08:46] <_RadioHead> echlo Dominian :) [08:47] hey repsol__ [08:47] er [08:47] ops ops!! [08:47] damn tab completion! [08:47] _RadioHead: sup ! 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[08:48] Dominian: fun part is the pipefitters pulled deckplates right outside the back door of the office so they can upgrade the cooling. unfortunately, it's literally next to the door that we need to get to the cages :) [08:48] IOW - watch your step when you open the door [08:49] _RadioHead: yeah everything is good.. daughter is at school and wife is chillin' with her friends until daughter is out of school hehe [08:49] alisonken1noc: hehe [08:49] alisonken1noc: Well, any "servers" you don't need.. you be sure to send them my way ;P [08:49] <_RadioHead> Dominian: cool [08:51] Dominian: :) [08:52] alisonken1noc: or let acidchild know hehe [08:52] alienBOB: rworkman new screenshot >> http://images.cjb.net/91d04.png [08:53] Supergrilo: You do realize that alienBOB and rworkman both have day jobs right..? [08:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:54] Dominian: right now I'm trying to see if I can get the boss to 'forget' one of the servers since I had to give my mother-in-law my old one [08:54] (desktop that is) [08:54] ahhhhh lol [08:55] Yeah I need to find a decent "server" for home.. get all my important data off my main machine and on to a raid [08:55] her hp motherboard appears to have an irq issue [08:55] doh [08:55] but since it was new with MS ME, you can figure how old it is :) [08:55] oh god [08:56] I got into a discussion about Windows ME.. someone said it was better than XP... trying to figure out what type of crack they were smoking [08:56] it worked ok for her - it took us 4 years after she got it to upgrade from juno dial-in to dsl :) [08:56] heh [08:58] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. 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[09:41] greeetings [09:43] Dominian, it is better now then XP because there are almost no viruses for it made :) [09:43] hah [09:43] I love XP [09:43] I'll probably use Windows 7 when they finally release it [09:43] VBox ftw [09:44] Action: The-Croupier is anxious...Dominian is here :( [09:44] eh [09:44] its pretty amazing how microsoft made xp good and then abandoned it [09:44] Action: The-Croupier is thinking you never know when you might end in noobfarm :( [09:44] The-Croupier: hahaha [09:44] chowabunga, maybe they are against good stuff ;) [09:45] bill gates current projects include "Flying Syringe Mosquitos" and the "Doomsday Seed Vault" [09:45] lol [09:45] not a joke [09:46] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:30] hi, is there an ETA for the next slackware version? [10:30] in 16 days, 8 hours, and 29 minutes [10:30] dma (n=vzibhga@203.171.192.51) joined ##slackware. [10:31] i heard 13 days 3 hours 37 minutes [10:31] *36 minutes [10:31] your sources are WAY off [10:31] oh oops decimal place, gotta reconvert to time [10:32] ok yeah approx 17 days [10:32] overdrive: there has NEVER been an ETA of a slackware release, why would that change now? [10:32] overdrive, there's no way to tell. You can keep up with the changelogs and look forward for release candidates. [10:33] slackware should stay with 12.2 for 6 more months or more...seems good enough for me [10:33] nah, at very least, a release with a newer kernel is always good [10:34] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) joined ##slackware. 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[10:39] ok, how about "stable will never see a 2.?.(N+x) bump" [10:39] well there actually have been updates [10:39] for security issues [10:40] I've never seen Pat push an updated kernel to a stable release [10:40] man, busy da [10:40] y [10:40] unless it was a major major security issue being fixed [10:41] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] dma (n=vzibhga@203.171.192.51) left irc: "Virca 1.1.20" [10:43] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:49] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: seems all is ok now with Linux software raid1 , thx again man [10:49] thrice`: i say estimated, just more or less, just to know [10:50] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:50] Dominian: slackware-12.0 (but as you mentioned; that was a security update) [10:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:50] thrice`: i am not waiting like openbsd every 6 months, but i would like to know if in two weeks more or less will be a new slackware version, just wait for this one instead install 12.2, i only ask for this reason, that i think is reasonable [10:50] BP{k}: yep [10:50] overdrive: in two weeks.. ? no. [10:51] overdrive: no chance. personally, I'd guess within 2 months, but that's a guess [10:51] BP{k}: it was an example :-) but thanks [10:51] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:51] ok cool [10:53] overdrive: right now, we don't even have a release candidate. [10:53] my badblocks on a 500 gigger have been running for more than 12 hours now [10:53] i have one friend that has always problems with updates in other gnu/linux distributions, so i would like install him a slackware, as i think is the best distribution to know what are you doing each time, and not just a 'magic' upgrade like other distributions :-) so when happens some problems sometimes they don't know how to fix that [10:54] BP{k}: aha, is there any reason? [10:54] xorg still hasn't been updated, but if it will or not is still a mystery [10:54] i did not follow slackware from a long time :_( but it was my first and favourite distro [10:55] overdrive: probably our most favourite reason of all time: "Patrick hasn't deemed it ready to be released, or near release time yet" [10:55] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hey [10:57] BP{k}: thanks [10:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host232-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:58] overdrive (n=user@nat/cisco/x-b35047506d87fff2) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [10:59] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:06] I was on here till 5am the other morning.. :/ [11:06] yeah i was awake until about 3:30 [11:06] http://darkscience.org/img//src/1241735529820.jpg [11:06] ^^ lol [11:06] haha nice find [11:07] http://darkscience.org/img/ [11:07] its on a network i've peered with's dchan page :-) [11:07] acidchild: howdy :) [11:07] lol [11:07] :D how you doing BP? [11:08] acidchild: not too bad :) yourself? [11:08] Excellent, just woke up... girlfriends gone to get coffee from the place nextdoor. [11:08] hahahah acidchild [11:08] got about 15k$ worth of wireless equipment delivered yesterday xD [11:09] you know you can make coffee at home :P [11:09] she should be in the kitchen! lol j/k [11:09] chowabunga: yeah, she knows that... there is a place called F'Coffee thats next to the apartment block. [11:09] lol i'm the one in the kitchen rofl [11:09] owned [11:10] Nick change: repsol__ -> adrenaline [11:10] acidchild, who's credit card did you steal?! [11:10] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [11:10] my bosses :D [11:11] i need a couple dl360's [11:11] tis cool, though i was expecting RG8 or 213 for the coax.. but they gave me semi-solid stuff (lower resistance/tolerance) [11:11] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:12] acidchild: ! [11:12] I have two slackware 12.2 systems here that I'm using slackpkg on now and one has managed to get mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.20-i686-1 [11:12] The other still has mozilla-firefox-3.0.10-i686-1 [11:12] ff2 > 3 [11:13] stfu troll [11:13] usr13: you're certain the mirror file points to 12.2 ? [11:13] Dominian: ! [11:13] acidchild: ds [11:13] Where / why did the one system get mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.20-i686-1? [11:13] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:13] thrice`> how am i trolling [11:14] <_RadioHead> hey acidchild dude :) [11:15] thrice`: THat's it... oooops [11:15] One system is pointing to 12.1 [11:15] i use ff2 from 12.1 on 12.2 [11:15] chowabunga: dunno, stupid remarks that really don't help anyone, and just annoy others? [11:15] Wow, I need to undo some damage. Not sure where to start. [11:16] thrice`> i annoy you? [11:16] Not sure how I did that but... [11:16] thrice`> ignore me then, dont just call names [11:16] usr13: if thats the case, go have a cofee break and roll it around in your head a bit before starting [11:16] chowabunga: shut up [11:16] uva (i=bno@118-160-161-210.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] plus i couldnt even figure out what he was asking from his question...so i assumed he wanted ff2 [11:17] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89F92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] like me :) its better [11:17] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] drijen: The one that has 12.1 selected is only about a month old, but... well, I guess every update needs to be reinstalled. [11:17] hmm time to learn vi i suppose [11:17] compl3x> vimtutor [11:18] in bash prompt [11:18] aight chowabunga cheer [11:18] cheers* [11:18] usr13, if you switch to 12.2 repos and update, then upgrade-all you should be fine I think [11:18] tutor is very good, but you need to actually start using vi{,m} a lot hehe [11:19] zx10k1: You thihnk? [11:19] Sounds like a good starting point anyway ....? [11:19] i'd follow UPGRADE.txt personally [11:19] usr13, I think, as in that's what I would do, but if it gets you fsckd up don't blame me :-) [11:19] Hmm vi looks powerful [= [11:20] then do upgradepkg patches/* [11:20] chowabunga, since he installed 12.2 and only did 12.1 upgrades why bother to do all that? [11:20] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.9.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] usr13, you did install 12.2 on that box didn't you? [11:21] oh...lol i dunno? ls /var/log/packages/*-slack12.1;upgradpkg ? 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[11:27] zx10k1: That would be the case if all updates that have come out were for both 12.1 and 12.2 [11:27] usually they are [11:28] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] zx10k1: Yea, they seem to be running side by side it seems. [11:28] just get all the 12.2/patches/*.tgz and upgradepkg then see if any slack-12.1 patches exist by filename [11:28] or do a dry run with slackpkg [11:29] nevertheless when you switch to the right mirror it will upgrade all required packages, no matter if they were previously downgraded or untouched [11:30] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.7) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Some are labeled 12.1 and some are not. [11:31] (Just looking at ls -ltr /var/log/packages [11:32] Gast_845_ (n=Gast_845@p4FCBE27A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] firefox should be between those labeled as 12.1 [11:32] http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434 [11:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:32] http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434 [11:32] http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434 [11:32] Last message repeated 3 time(s). [11:32] ffs [11:32] http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434 [11:32] kick! [11:32] Gast_845_ (n=Gast_845@p4FCBE27A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Excess Flood [11:32] op? [11:32] kline? [11:32] slackboy ]= [11:33] he spammed so fast that he lagged out before he could be kicked? [11:33] zx10k1: Oh yea, firefox is labled 12.1 [11:34] ge0rge007 (n=ge0rge@f69-65.fdsl.aegean.gr) left ##slackware. [11:34] usr13, you can always try for one package if you re scared to do all at once [11:34] fix your mirrors file, update-all and then upgrade ff only [11:34] then see what happens [11:34] zx10k1: Firefox should be between those labled as 12.1? [11:35] if you downgraded it by "updating", yes [11:35] no [11:35] bash-3.1$ ls -l /var/log/packages/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.20-i686-1 [11:35] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:35] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [11:35] anyway firefox 3 is the downgrade in my opinion [11:35] why? [11:35] 2 is still patched [11:36] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:36] because its ugly and has a bunch of built in features that search google and such [11:36] chowabunga: Oh you're right. Firefox is NOT labled with Distro Version Number. [11:36] ff2 is not maintained by FF team anymore [11:36] ff3 uses much less memory is far more efficient here [11:36] in fact, one would think Slackware would issue an EOL for it too, alongside bitchx [11:36] firefox 2 is still patched afaik [11:36] chowabunga, nope [11:36] chowabunga: Yea, I'm not all that happy with .20 either. [11:37] unless they just stopped [11:37] chowabunga: no, it's done [11:37] so no more security patches? oh well noscript [11:38] kfb31 (n=kfb@user-160uru8.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [11:38] Nilzao (n=urubuh@200-161-87-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:38] noscript will only protect you from JS related attacks [11:38] of which, not all security updates relate to [11:38] protects against xss [11:39] Nilzao (n=urubuh@200-161-87-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:39] and more... [11:39] but anw [11:39] Firefox 2.0.0.x will be maintained with security and stability updates until mid-December, 2008. All users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to Firefox 3. [11:39] guess ill take my chances [11:39] kfb31 (n=kfb@user-160uru8.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:40] I dont' think you have a good basis of staying with 2.x [11:40] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:40] maybenot now, but i have a good basis to go to some other browser then [11:40] move to opera if you can't stomach ff3. but the ff3 beta may be a something to consider too tho it is beta [11:40] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-153-156.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:40] I don't understand your "built-in google" argument. what are you referring to ? [11:41] browser war starts, run for your lives! [11:41] things i couldnt figure out how to disable that werent in ff2 [11:41] usr13, good luck to your upgrade [11:41] and good luck to anyone decides to stay with FF2.. :P [11:41] zx10k1: No problem.. I'll fix it. [11:41] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left irc: "Leaving" [11:41] run the FSF firefox rebrand if you're afraid of the google embed stuff [11:42] chowabunga, you just go tools and customize tool bars and drag it you can delete it from there [11:42] i was just looking at gnuzilla [11:42] compl3x> it does google suggest [11:42] yeah [11:42] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ [11:42] i dont need all my keystrokes into the title bar to be sent to google [11:42] ive got it right next to my book marks - on the same row [11:42] Old_Fogie: I really like firefox [11:42] Old_Fogie> thanks [11:42] no I'm talking about the google stuff [11:43] the gnu one yanks that stuff out [11:43] well, so they claim, I ain't used it before [11:43] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:44] wiki "differences..." is a good read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat [11:45] I like Firefox a lot more now especially since I've seen some of my firends having issues with IE 7 and 8 [11:45] yeah I can't get ie7 or 8 to run on slackware either :) [11:46] Well, yes most of my real friends are linux users to, but few are Winders nuts... but what can you say. [11:47] Nick change: nacl -> NaCl [11:47] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.249) left irc: "Leaving" [11:47] cool [11:47] Had one guy (about a month ago) tried to upgrade to IE8. Well, didn't work at all. He was just stuck. [11:48] I just downloaded FF for Windows on a thumbdrive and became an istant hero [11:48] Nick change: hackedhead -> HaCKedHeaD [11:48] ie8 is the first time I can recall not having a broken system, or broken 3rd party apps. was the first pain free upgrade to IE I can recall ever having so far. [11:48] I see it as a major dissadvantage when a system tries to rely on just one browser / file manager. [11:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] tho, other then running it's initial wizard, I ain't used it for anything tho [11:49] Nick change: HaCKedHeaD -> hackedhead [11:49] looks good to me [11:50] rawr!!! [11:50] root 2788 2.1 0.0 2160 936 pts/0 D+ May10 19:16 badblocks -n /dev/sda -f [11:50] now it's 8:50 am!!!!!!!!! [11:50] wait its still doing google suggest [11:50] ctrl c time [11:50] Old_Fogie: So IE8 is an improvement? It's fixed...? [11:50] usr13, I haven't browsed with ie since the 5 days (of any notable mention , more or less just to browse win updates site) [11:51] ok i found how to disable suggest in about:config its browser.search.suggest.enabled [11:51] but it didn't break the box this time is my point (to which I'm glad) [11:51] hmm didnt work [11:51] chowabunga, cheers for the info [11:51] oh :/ [11:52] Old_Fogie: I see. [11:52] chowabunga, one thing about google tho, is , using that search field in FF ( I believe ) is how mozilla.org get's it's main financial backing fwiw. [11:52] Hey, does anyone know how to dissable touchpad clicks on a laptop? [11:52] IE8 is definitely an improvement from the perspective of web developers. Can't wait until IE6 dies :p [11:52] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:52] oh it was searching bookmarks...it works now [11:53] Old_Fogie: I use the google search bar a lot. [11:53] chowabunga, yeah was about to say - works fine here [11:53] god see why isnt there an option for that [11:53] in the menus lol make me search to disable your tracking bugs [11:53] ie8 blows [11:54] AlexElliott: Yea, IE7 has had some issues with some of my php pages. Hadd to juggle MS' css [11:54] but ie8 is still a more advanced web browser, it even has 'click sounds' :) [11:54] lol [11:54] hahah [11:54] ie6 ruled [11:54] and we found out when ie7 came out [11:54] 'click sounds'? [11:54] ie6 ruled :| [11:54] usr13, click a link hear noise [11:54] was a 'jest' I made [11:55] Old_Fogie: Oh that sounds exciting. [11:55] usr13: yeah, still IE7 to wait to die as well before we really can expect decent standards compliant rendering. [11:55] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:56] 'course, IE8 still isn't much good at standard JS DOM etc [11:56] Amen to decent standards! [11:58] Is IE8 a mandatory upgrade, or about to become...? [11:58] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:58] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] It's a critical update [11:59] usr13: I thought IE8 was still beta until about a month or so ago. [11:59] It was released in mid-march [11:59] pihentagyu (n=doeppjak@89.137.118.128) left irc: "Leaving" [11:59] So, two months, about that [12:00] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:00] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [12:01] NaCl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [12:01] Well, I still see no reason our MS brothers and sisters shouldn't be using FF. [12:01] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:01] they dont know better [12:01] well what do you know I had to wait 22 hours just to see if the third fan in my lappy is working properly [12:01] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.255) joined ##slackware. [12:01] the blue e logo is just too tempting [12:02] If I were an MS user and interesed in keeping my system heathy, I won't use IE at all. [12:02] c'mon IE isn't that bad is it? [12:02] chowabunga: I know. It sure is pretty. [12:03] usr13, that's because you've reached the point where you can't 'relate' to them any more on that matter. [12:03] ttyX: Let's put it this way. IE will install stuff on your system behind you back and that is just unacceptable to me. [12:03] they just dont know/understand/care, etc [12:03] ooh shiny [12:04] Action: chowabunga wanders off [12:04] nacl (n=nacl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [12:04] Action: compl3x has heard enough of ie [12:04] Action: compl3x slits wrists [12:05] ttyX: I think it important enough that I delete the IE links on the few MS systems I support. [12:05] chrome does the same [12:05] ttyX: No IE and not Outlook [12:05] usr13, I mean, take printing for example. I was at a friends how, who's on windows, and when she prints... she even takes her hands off the mouse, cuz she might crash. Why she puts up with it? I won't ever understand. You just can't rationalize that kind of behavior. [12:05] calls back the big daddy behind your back [12:05] ttyX: FF and Thunderbird only [12:06] i hope chrome never runs on linux [12:06] or only on ubuntu [12:07] Old_Fogie: You said it before "they don't know any better". [12:07] craps a virus [12:07] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.32.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:07] they say chrome for linux is developed by a diff team [12:07] It is, they've got it working partially on Linux [12:07] The thing is, they didn't start writing it in a cross-platform way, they wrote it for Windows, and now they're porting [12:08] AlexElliott: I thought it always did work on Linux [12:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Nope, Chrome only exists on Windows at the moment [12:08] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] Chromium is working on getting the Linux version to work, and then you might get an official release [12:09] If you want Chrome on Linux now, you need to use Wine [12:09] duh chrome aint worth that much of hassle [12:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host232-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Operation timed out [12:10] was chrome developed by google? [12:10] yht (n=yht@114.121.7.116) joined ##slackware. [12:10] usr13: parts of it [12:11] usr13: the v8 javascript engine was bought from an italian firm, i believe [12:11] I've got all I need with FF, Konqueror, Opera, and lynx [12:11] usr13: I'm with you there. lynx FTW! [12:12] fadein: I use lynx quite a bit actually. [12:12] firefox is getting slow for me [12:12] Either tehy fix it or I'll switch [12:12] they* [12:12] usr13: I think it would be rad if more browsers were as keyboard friendly as lynx is. the vimperator plugin for FF is a great step in that direction! [12:13] Nick change: paissad_ -> paissad [12:13] vimperator plugin? .... [12:14] fadein: Yea, I use lynx on tty6 a lot. [12:14] usr13: if you're a vim user, you should check it out. It makes FF behave like vim. [12:14] fadein: Oh yea, vim for sure. [12:14] usr13: check it out: http://vimperator.mozdev.org/ [12:15] usr13: it may change your life :) [12:15] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host232-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:15] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [12:16] is there anything that makes firefox behave like nano :p [12:16] fadein: Im' on it. [12:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Ok, gotta run CU all later.. [12:23] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [12:25] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:25] hey firebird619 [12:25] Hey compl3x. How are you? [12:25] firebird619, all good , yourself? [12:25] compl3x: doing well, thanks. :) [12:26] awesome [12:27] im trying to think of this film i watched a while back - cant remember the name - its about this drug dealer college guy who this girl falls in love with and leaves him purple letters in a box - messed up film but i liked it- anyone know it? [12:27] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [12:28] hi [12:28] hey Arirang [12:28] arny* [12:28] stupid auto complete when im coughing [12:28] hehe [12:28] tab completions: infinity compl3x: 0 [12:28] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [12:28] haha [12:28] :p [12:28] Hey Dominian. How are you? [12:29] omg gotta love the internet [= [12:30] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host254-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:30] uva (i=bno@118-160-170-139.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] firebird619: good.. you? [12:32] Dominian: doing well, thanks. :) [12:32] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:33] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Hrm.. wonder if I should get letmenoobfarmthatforyou.com kind of like letmegoogletahtforyou [12:37] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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Do I just do like ./weather.pl or perl weather.pl or what? [12:47] Hmm, nevermind, it's just the options I was giving weren't working. :P [12:47] i wonder if it's possible to run two yakuakes at once [12:48] then i could bound a separate key to each, and put one of the left side of the screen and one on the right [12:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] Hmm, I had got this script off the Internet, yet the parameters it has don't work with it. Anybody have weather with conky working? [12:49] perhaps it's for an older version of conky? [12:50] not sure, it's a perl script. The script itself doesn't give the weather like it should. [12:50] grr - how do I change line in vim with G? its not working [12:51] compl3x, nano? [12:51] Im learning vim [12:51] change line in vim with G? You mean replace a line of text with just G or what? [12:51] in vimtutor it says G [12:51] type in the line number you want and then press G [12:52] `56G` would go to line 56 [12:52] "G" by itself goes to the EOF [12:52] ah right -capital G :/ [12:53] so much to learn this is crazy [12:53] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:53] amazon10x: btw, here's what the weather is suppose to look like that I'm trying to get. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3510717774_0e4f78a935_o.jpg [12:53] you'll start to see patterns with the commands :) [12:53] well, there's a lot to learn but there's only a little bit to get started [12:53] lee555J5, yeah - love the motion idea [= [12:54] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:55] and slackpkg still wants to install rpm2tgz-1.0-i486-1.txt [12:55] Sex is the name of a day? [12:55] evidently. [12:55] firebird619: looks pretty fancy, if you're able to get it work :P [12:55] amazon10x: Yeah, the whole thing works except weather. [12:55] chowabunga: How's it going? [12:56] fine [12:56] you use conky at all? [12:56] konqueror? [12:56] I cant figure this script out, I don't even see where it defines the url to get weather from. [12:56] first vi/vim command to learn: :q! = quit, dammit (quit without saving) :) [12:56] chowabunga: No, conky is what's in that image url, sits on the desktop to display different information. [12:57] firebird619, check out fluxbox's site - on there screenshots theres some example conky scripts that have weather on them i beleive [12:57] firebird619: maybe check out #conky? [12:57] i dont use any widgets [12:57] lee555J5, haha yeah [12:57] chowabunga: ah, ok. [12:57] loving the vim parenthasis search [12:57] parenthesis* [12:58] compl3x: Yeah, I'll look there again, maybe get some ideas. [12:58] [= [12:58] amazon10x: does conky have a channel? [12:58] yeah [12:58] 40 people in there [12:58] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) joined ##slackware. [12:58] active? [12:58] ok where do you exactly file bugs? [12:58] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] nothing happening right now, but it is 1pm on a monday [12:59] ttyX: for what? [12:59] amazon10x: haha, true. [12:59] its not abug actually [12:59] wrong package name in the tree [12:59] <_RadioHead> tomorrow ppl firebird619 have a great time [12:59] _RadioHead: will do, thanks. Take Care. [12:59] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] morning from colorado [13:00] ttyX: oh you mean that rpm2tgz thing. i have that too. when i tell it to upgrade it complains about md5 or something [13:00] vastina: Hey, how are you? [13:00] its has .txt extension [13:00] firebird619: good, yourself? [13:00] it has the smae package installed already [13:00] what's the weather like out in CO [13:00] anyone know what file manager is used in this image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3509876921_bdce3cbf5a_o.jpg [13:00] vastina: doing well, thank you. :) [13:01] so its supposed to be a rebuild with txz extension but its txt in this case [13:01] amazon10x: foggy for now, but apparently supposed to pick up (hoping so because i have a mountain to climb after work) [13:01] ttyX: where does it say txt? [13:02] current tree [13:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.121) joined ##slackware. [13:03] ok, under fluxbox, i need to change the background of xterm (sick of using konsole just for a black bg) to either black, or trasnparent, could be a stupid question but any takers before i google it? [13:03] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:04] Action: vastina googles [13:04] does xterm support transparency? I know aterm and eterm do. [13:05] psuedo transparency yum yum lol [13:05] :O [13:05] Konsole has true transparency, it's great. :) [13:06] vastina: It's not looking like xterm has transparency. [13:06] firebird619: i really don't care about transparency, i just don't want a white background (especially doesn't work well with irssi [13:06] Action: vastina doesn't care much for konsole [13:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) left irc: "Leaving." [13:07] Konsole ftw [13:07] vastina: I'm not sure it supports bg colors either, tried aterm or eterm or something? [13:07] Dominian: that's what I use irssi with, otherwise I use like rxvt or eterm or something. [13:07] Action: Dominian nods [13:08] eh sod it... i'll just keep using konsole, just looks ugly [13:08] vastina: so change it. [13:08] :P [13:08] roxterm ftw! [13:08] Konsole is very customizable in that regard. [13:08] ttyX: roxterm is nice as well, I have that installed. [13:09] konsoles fat. [13:09] i prefer the simplicity of xterm [13:09] i quite like eterm [13:09] vastina: then you'd like aterm or eterm, also simple. [13:09] I prefer the good old Terminal thats hips with xfce [13:09] ships* [13:10] boy, here goes everyone with their terminal preferences. <3 this channel sometimes [13:10] no sarcasm [13:10] haha [13:11] vastina: just drop X and use that. :P [13:11] Guys, isn't it obvious that using a GUI at all makes you weak? Why bother firing up xorg at all? [13:11] I miss the blinking cursor [13:11] eviljames> how can i open 10 xterms without x? [13:12] chowabunga: alt-F1 alt-F2, alt-F3 etc... [13:12] chowabunga: GNU screen [13:12] screen FTW. [13:12] scren cant resize or change font [13:12] Those are terminal settings, not for screen to muck about with anyway [13:12] firebird619: yo dude. [13:12] ok and console isnt a terminal [13:13] eviljames: yo, how's it going? Have a good weekend? [13:13] screen under xterm > screen under console there ARE differences [13:13] firebird619: Other than a disappointing Canucks game, pretty decent. Yourself? [13:13] doing well, thanks. Canucks lost again? [13:14] chowabunga: this 'console' you speak of, are you referring to Konsole? [13:14] no, alt+F1/2/3 [13:15] eviljames: yikes, 4-2 Chicago. [13:15] firebird619: You wouldn't even believe it.. 3-2 Chicago near the end of the 3rd period, so Canucks pull the goalie to get 6 attackers in the Hawks zone [13:15] firebird619: Then the 6th man as he's skating onto the ice trips one of his own defencement, then falls on his ass. Hawks steal the puck, breakway, goal. 4-2. [13:15] s/defencement/defenceman/ [13:15] eviljames: bah [13:16] eviljames: ouch, brutal. [13:16] hey thumbs [13:16] hi firebird619 [13:16] thumbs: tell me about it. [13:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat079.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:16] chowabunga: While I would probably agree that there are differences, I wouldn't say either > either. [13:17] Action: vastina is cool with konsole for now [13:18] heh I went to never using vim at all - spent a couple hours with it , now im trying to use it in other apps by accident [13:19] compl3x: That's a common pattern. [13:20] I regularly find myself going: "ahhh.. this document is done :w... DOH Alt-F-S" [13:20] haha [13:21] I like a lot of the ideas but some of it i find impractical [13:21] compl3x> was it a good tutor? [13:21] chowabunga, yeah it was [= :p [13:21] compl3x: I'm pretty sure firebird619 recently had the same experience :D [13:21] I type :wq in OO writer all the time [13:21] :P [13:21] as for using the true Terminal @ eviljames, great, i'm a CLI-dominant user as well, but Alt'ing through terminals is a bit more exasperating than moving the cursor about the screen, and when i have over six machines to work on remotely, VT on it's own doesn't yield the depth of X [13:22] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] Lumisore (n=XSE@61.247.22.127) joined ##slackware. [13:23] eviljames: :P. [13:23] how to upgrade applications on slackware? ex. centos using yum [13:24] man slackpkg [13:24] aww, for once I wasn't fast enough on the man page reference :( [13:25] haha, better luck next time. [13:25] slow poke. [13:25] eviljames, your letting yourself go man - [13:25] compl3x: He's just slipping in his old age. :P [13:25] haha [13:25] :) [13:25] It was lag, I swear! [13:26] how to use minimal install on slackware? [13:26] Uh huh, blame the lag. [13:26] Lumisore: How to use? As you please! [13:26] eviljames, they ALL blame the lag [13:26] I mean, choose minimal install when install it [13:26] ok can someone tell me how can I convert this flashing cursor box to that slim line as it appears in Konsole [13:26] eviljames: Ah you were quick with that one, no lag this time? [13:27] Oops, he's not answering, lag must be back. :P [13:27] ping :p [13:28] pong :p [13:29] pong [13:29] LAAAAAAAAAG [13:29] lol [13:34] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:35] yeah lag ^ [13:35] i start my new job today oh boy! [13:35] nice - work with disabled people? [13:35] so nice to not have to wake up to an alarm clock [13:35] ya [13:37] i did the math and if i saved my entire paycheck for two years i'd be able to buy a pretty decent house well at least do a good down deposit unless it was one of the forclosures at the bank. or a really nice car [13:37] Hey, if you lived in detroit you could buy entire neighborhoods for that kind of money! [13:38] no one lives in detroit [13:39] i do [13:39] i was in detroit last week :( [13:39] you call that living? [13:39] mwuahah [13:39] theres a house here that some one owes 42thousand left on and it's forclosed from a bank 6bedroom home 2 bath 2stall garage and it's really nice [13:39] compl3x: Unfortunately, as a Canadian, I can't buy neighborhoods in Detroit, bulldoze them, re-subdivide and sell at a modest profit. [13:40] But the auctions are supposed to be insane. houses ~$1,000 - $10,000 (just pay the owed taxes, the bank has already walked away from the foreclosure) [13:41] get shot in detroit eff that [13:41] I dont really live in detroit... [13:42] OMG YOU SAID A LIE ON THE INTERNET [13:42] NOBODY WILL FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS CRIME [13:42] banks are knocking down houses now [13:42] Action: compl3x hides [13:42] and its screwing state govts even more [13:44] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:44] makes me want to buy up all the forclosed homes and sell them at normal price [13:45] make profit [13:45] hemstar7 (n=blackmo@202.152.243.76) joined ##slackware. [13:45] then i'll be able to afford the 5grand to have the cable company build a fat pipe to my house directly in the woods [13:45] 1: collect under pants 2: ???? 3: Profit! [13:45] haha [13:46] Hey nix_chix0r. How are you? [13:46] fantastic firebird619 !! you? [13:46] nix_chix0r: They key to that plan is to have people who are willing to buy these houses. And after 6months - 1 year of squatters and run-down neighborhoods, NOBODY wants these pieces of crap. [13:46] nix_chix0r: doing very well, thank you. :) [13:47] true eviljames but the homes that they show listings are on the south side of our area and those are really nice homes [13:47] log homes ect [13:47] all modern shit [13:47] On the cheap? foreclosed? [13:48] yeah [13:48] a 3bedroom 1.5 bath for 29thousand [13:48] Oh snap! [13:48] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:49] What state? Aren't you in tornado country? [13:49] She's in Northern Minnesota. [13:49] I'm in Tornado Alley. :) [13:49] Double snap!! they even have a hockey team! [13:49] Any limits on foreign ownership? [13:49] i doubt it [13:49] any one can buy homes [13:50] Well, the detroit auctions have some limits on foreign ownership apparently... [13:50] But even still, that's a steal of a deal! [13:50] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) joined ##slackware. [13:50] hemstar7 (n=blackmo@202.152.243.76) left irc: [13:51] To get a 1 bedroom 650sq. ft apartment in Vancouver: $275,000 + [13:51] Ugh, conky + weather is frustrating. I'm trying this script and it returns Sunny: 170%. HUH? [13:51] firebird619, pastebin the rc file? [13:52] Chymera1 (n=chymera@vpn065b.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) joined ##slackware. [13:52] mmmmm nicotine [13:52] does anybody here know their way around with python? I'm having a problem with pymol here and I can't find anything on it esxcept this ubuntu bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pymol/+bug/340085 [13:52] i_is_cat, +1 [13:52] compl3x: I'm just working with a script right now to get it functioning, I don'y have it in conkyrc yet. [13:52] firebird619, ah right [13:53] compl3x: this is the script I'm trying right now though: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=281676 [13:53] Chymera1 (n=chymera@vpn065b.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] I really like and use gkrellm, but I've just been playing around with conky, I've got everything else working except weather. [13:53] Chymera1 (n=chymera@vpn065b.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) joined ##slackware. [13:54] firebird619, tried it with a different location? diffrent server.. [13:54] compl3x: the 170% is suppose to be the temperature read out, it obviously isn't working, I KNOW it isn't 170 degrees here. [13:54] compl3x: yeah, I've been trying different scripts too, no dice. [13:55] Chymera1: According to that bug report PyMOL is fixed by replacing as with show_as [13:55] 170 degrees wtf :O [13:55] Yikes, 170 degrees is COOOOLD [13:55] Oh, wait, are we talking about Kelvin? [13:55] firebird619, hmm sorry dont know what to suggest - never use weather because predictions are normally always wrong [13:56] eviljames: no, 170F, but it's reading 170% [13:56] you mean in /api.py? [13:56] compl3x: ok, thanks. [13:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [13:56] Nick change: Chymera1 -> rocketship [13:56] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] compl3x: agreed, but it's still nice to have an estimate. :P [13:57] haha [13:57] rocketship: That's what it seems to say.. [13:58] Lexus1 (n=Lexus@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [13:58] compl3x: When I go to the url in that script, the url doesn't even work. :P [13:58] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:58] haha! [13:58] Nick change: rocketship -> Chymera1 [13:58] I know it can be done, a gazillion people have done it. [13:59] firebird619, have you tried a different server or not? :p [13:59] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.206) joined ##slackware. [13:59] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) joined ##slackware. [13:59] compl3x: yes, I have. [13:59] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] firebird619, weeird [13:59] indeed [13:59] try another script? [14:00] Chymera1 (n=chymera@vpn065b.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) left ##slackware. [14:00] I'm gonna ask in conky, maybe they have some ideas. [14:00] compl3x: I've tried 3 or 4 different ones. [14:00] all using curl and perl? [14:00] ooh rymes [14:00] rhymes* [14:01] haha [14:01] compl3x: yeah [14:01] maybe an issue with curl / perl? [14:02] :O the shuttle is launching. [14:02] compl3x relieves his cravings with a +1 cigarette [14:02] but... why conky? Doesn't gkrellm work? [14:02] Or SuperKaramba themes if you're in kde3 [14:02] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) left irc: "Leaving." [14:02] i_is_cat, already there. [14:02] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) joined ##slackware. [14:02] gkrellm is great [14:03] why conky? because gkrellm looks like shit :) [14:03] true that [14:03] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:03] eviljames: Yes, it works, I haven't found weather for gkrellm, the link was bad. I was just working on conky for something to do, and now there's this issue so I want to get it to work. [14:03] conky is sweeet as when you have it running , but configuring can be a bitch [14:03] I will survive. [14:03] compl3x: I have it really nice looking, it's just this weather won't work. [14:04] nice :p I never have my desktop exposed so no need for any of those for me [14:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:05] eviljames: btw, I'm on fluxbox again. :P [14:05] firebird619, nice [= same here [14:05] kde4x took the tiniest bit of interest i had left in kde and threw it out the window [14:05] compl3x: I'm just getting into it more and configuring, etc. It's great. The last time I was on it for a few days, eviljames said I was a minimalist bastard. :P [14:06] whats wrong with minimalism? - I love it [14:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:06] nothing, but eviljames uses and <3's kde. :) [14:06] meh :p [14:06] kde reminds me of being on windows - and i dont want/like that [14:06] KDE is great, but I like fluxbox more and more these past few days. [14:07] kde reminds me of all the things Windows lifted from kde [14:07] compl3x: haha, it does in a way. You tried kde4 yet? [14:07] firebird619, yes, and ran away [14:07] Vista is almost a direct copy of kde4 :P [14:07] I know :/ [14:07] eviljames: yeah, it is in many ways. [14:07] merp (n=merp@188.sub-75-216-55.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Except that kde4, well, /works/ and is at least reasonable in terms of resources. [14:07] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.121) left irc: ":wq" [14:07] I love configuring fluxbox - menu and everything - the only downfall is multiple wallpapers for different heads [14:08] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [14:08] how many heads you got? :P [14:08] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [14:08] haha monitor wise , 2 at the moment but did have uh 1-2-3 -- 5 :p [14:08] haha [14:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [14:09] ran out of eyes so got rid of a couple :p [14:10] lol, why not just get a couple more eyes? :P [14:10] too expensive [14:10] wanna send me yours? [14:10] wow, talk about minimalist, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=52896&file1=52896-1.png&file2=52896-2.jpg&file3=&name=Conky+scripts [14:10] compl3x: nope, I need em. [14:10] hmm shame [14:11] firebird619, mines more minimal than that on startup :p [14:11] just a empty taskbar with clock :p [14:11] that link is flux with conky on the top. [14:12] well I win - cause i dont have conky :p [14:12] haha [14:12] mogunus (n=user@173-9-7-10-New-England.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] here I found a python weather script, maybe that'll work. [14:13] nope, they removed it, I can't download it. :( [14:13] hhmm [14:13] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [14:14] this is interesting: http://lifehacker.com/5152819/to+dos-weather-and-twitter-on-a-linux-desktop [14:14] oh well [14:14] been running badblocks for 12+ hours [14:15] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] jeev: it's still running? [14:15] i think im getting the hubby an external hard drive for his birthday and cigar of the month club [14:15] :O [14:15] his birthday coming up soon? [14:16] he's a lucky duck . yeah june 14th sunday and fathers day is the sunday after that [14:16] twice the pampering [14:16] wow, he's lucky. You're a good woman nix_chix0r. :) [14:17] my dad smuggled in cubans when i had the baby and he liked those so i figured the cigar of the month club would be perfect [14:17] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] yea firebird619. [14:18] i'll be 40 by the time it's done [14:18] i stopped [14:19] haha [14:19] i'm tired of seagate. [14:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] im off - good like firebird619 [14:19] luck* [14:19] ditch seagate then [14:19] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [14:20] jeev: what are you trying to accomplish though? [14:20] same thing everyone does when running badblocks [14:20] ... [14:20] dood, you're a troll [14:20] what kind of dumb shit question is that. [14:20] are you trying to force reallocation or are you trying to fix a corrupted filesystem? [14:20] ignored [14:20] ? [14:21] sounds like someone doesn't want data recovery help. that's ok [14:21] "why are you turning on your computer?" [14:21] jeev: antiwire is far from a troll, he's in here a lot and very helpful. [14:22] jeev: do you mind if I PM you? [14:22] firebird619, who asks that kind of question? [14:22] Seems like a legitimate question to me jeev [14:23] a person trying to help. He isn't a mind reader, he was asking what exactly you were doing? Why are you using badblocks, what are you trying to accomplish. [14:23] I've worked in data recovery labs. I'm not trolling him. [14:23] Hi alienBOB, how are you? [14:24] i've been going crazy complaining about seagates in here.. what can you do with badblocks other than check for bad blocks ? [14:24] hey alienBOB can I ask you something [14:24] jeev: Can I please PM you? [14:25] why does your mplayer slackbuild doesn't check for version [14:25] it doesn't seem to execute version.sh [14:25] why would it? [14:25] hi plz i have a question. how to install slackware [14:25] Action: nix_chix0r ducks [14:25] Action: eviljames hurls the manual @ nix_chix0r [14:26] yea, that's right. [14:26] I throw things at girls. [14:26] haha [14:26] woohoo [14:26] eviljames: you do that with your gf too? :P [14:26] Dominian, coz it shows version unknown? [14:26] it's ok i'm used to being beaten;) [14:26] :O [14:26] maybe if i made the spagetti sauce right i wouldnt have to have my head draged in it [14:26] lul [14:26] firebird619: Nah, she learned the first time :P [14:26] runing joke with my mom [14:27] nix_chix0r: read the topic, there's plenty of good links there for help. :P [14:27] heh, that's more detail than I would even give... most of the time I'll just type "/t" [14:27] eviljames: haha, thank goodness. [14:27] i told my mom he beats me for ruining the spagetti sauce and she tells him " that'll keep her in line" [14:27] haha [14:27] hahaha what is it about moms and saying things like that? my gf's mom says very similar things [14:28] On the other hand, I was having a thumb war against my gf and my mom was practically yelling at me: "Don't hurt her!!" [14:28] i also am confident that he will get better christmas presents this year kinda like bribing him to stay with me cause she didnt think i'd ever get married let alone have a kid. [14:28] lol [14:28] ttyX: I do not know of a "version.sh" bu I just saw an improvement I should apply to my SlackBuild when checking out a SVN snapshot [14:28] so she wants me to have more and with him i guess haa [14:29] I'll be waiting alienBOB ;) [14:29] :O, more little ones, how many kids you want nix_chix0r. Are you the next octomom? :P [14:29] hell no [14:29] lol [14:30] hahaha [14:30] Make sure you freeze those embryos! [14:30] maybe a second one in 3 years or so. but i'm planning that shit out. it wont be an accident [14:30] Action: eviljames was an accident! [14:30] good, planning is good. [14:30] eff planning. [14:30] no you dont understand this baby was a condom, and birth controll child [14:30] eviljames: you were not an accident, you were a train wreck. :P [14:30] there was no planning [14:30] Actually, I retract that. I read somewhere that planned babies somehow feel better about themselves in the womb [14:30] firebird619: amen brotha! [14:30] :D [14:31] haha [14:31] firebird619, we knew each other for like 3months. and i got pregnant and he stuck around and so i guess we' haven't been together very long haha [14:31] maybe a little over a year [14:31] And just to be a jerk, I carved "Brooks was here" on my way out... [14:31] nix_chix0r: he stuck around, that's a good sign. [14:32] firebird619, i posted a craigslist add to kinda recruit people to our LUG meetings and we hit it off [14:32] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.112.224.123) joined ##slackware. [14:32] and he spent so much time at my place i was like you gona move in or what [14:32] haha, nice. [14:33] Hmm, #conky just referred me to a Big Brown forum with sample conkyrc's. Thats fine, but why in the world does Big Brown require you to sign in to view screenshots. [14:33] it was funny because he didnt know if he should ask or if we were even really dating or anything. i basically put it out there like heres whats up are you on the same page if not gtfo [14:34] lol, and he stayed. I guess he was on the same page. [14:37] For whatever reason, that reminded me of the song lyrics "Is this love, that I'm feeling". Thanks alot nix_chix0r. :P [14:39] It reminded me of "You take this love!!" Go Pantera go!! [14:39] lol [14:40] Ugh, I logged in to Big Brown's forums to see these conky screenshots. If I don't return, you know what happened. [14:40] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:42] This conky is nice: http://csimiami.student.utwente.nl/stuff/screenshot.conky.png [14:45] Hmm, I may have found something that'll work. [14:46] mikearr_ (n=miker@pool-96-228-142-210.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:47] firebird619: who is the older girl in that screen shot? [14:48] lol [14:49] antiwire: not sure, it isn't mine. [14:49] ah [14:49] Processes Running Cpu Usage Name (Xorg 10.05% Conky 3.52%) [14:49] hahaha [14:49] That's the mom from Terminator Salvation [14:49] hahaha [14:49] firebird619: how much cpu does all that stuff use up? [14:49] I don't know why they wouldn't have offered it to Linda Hamilton... [14:49] it seems like it has to do a crapload of polling to get all that info [14:50] lemmings (n=lol@unaffiliated/lemmings) joined ##slackware. [14:50] lemmings (n=lol@unaffiliated/lemmings) left ##slackware. [14:50] omg she's gunna blow him away!!! http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/linda-hamilton.jpg [14:50] i just use top and ps and such [14:50] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:51] amazon10x: not sure. [14:51] slackerII (n=Tiberius@41.208.11.160) joined ##slackware. [14:51] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [14:51] 29494 chowabunga 20 0 2348 1116 856 R 1 0.1 0:00.26 top [14:51] antiwire: haha, that chick and Sygourney Weaver are some of the greatest women in film. [14:52] hehe, so top is like conky...it uses most cpu usage, except top doesnt lag xorg [14:52] eviljames: she definitely ranks up in the top 10 of the craziest females in films [14:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] conky isn't that big of a sucker [14:53] lag xorg? .1% cpu ? [14:53] antiwire: Yeah, same thing with Ripley in Aliens. She duct tapes a flame thrower, machine gun and rocket launcher together to go fight a horde of aliens. That's awesome. :D [14:53] lol [14:54] duct tape works wonders ya know [14:54] So does the big cargo machine she co-opts to further slay alien queens. [14:54] Also hardcore++. [14:54] thrice`> no its 10% [14:54] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:55] chowabunga: you running that on a 386 or something? [14:55] http://csimiami.student.utwente.nl/stuff/screenshot.conky.png [14:55] dual intel 1.8 [14:56] conky uses close to 0 resources on my machine [14:56] then you arent going extreeeeeeme ricer enough [14:56] and I scale my cpu to 800 mhz [14:56] thrice`: you have weather in conky? [14:56] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.239.162) joined ##slackware. [14:56] no, but I don't think it's difficult [14:56] thrice`, I guess it depends what n all you've added up to it [14:56] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:57] is there a way to use conky without it taking all your screen space...like xpose [14:57] then again why monitor if you arent looking at it [14:58] slackerII (n=Tiberius@41.208.11.160) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.192.125) joined ##slackware. [14:58] what do you mean, take all of your screenspace ? [14:58] thrice`: It has been to me, I've tried many scripts with no success. I'm trying another one now that looks promising. [14:58] mine uses like a 1 x 2 inch section [14:58] how much useful information can you fit in there [14:59] thrice`: your entire conky is just that? [14:59] I think arch linux has a big conky thread on their forums, where I gnabbed a config to start with [14:59] thrice`: I'm on Big Brown's forums right now, there's some nice setups. [14:59] I've used a lot of information from the Archwiki to get some things going on Slackware too [14:59] Arch does have a nice thread, I forget the exact link atm though. [14:59] in bookmarks somewhere probably [15:00] I have the time, date, 2 cpu graphs, RAM use, battery graph, wifi strength, and disk use [15:00] wow, that's pretty good. [15:01] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] firebird619: did you see my screenshot where I use adesklets for my weather? [15:04] chopp: Umm, not sure I did. link? [15:04] http://chopp.homelinux.com/tmp/screenshot.jpg [15:04] see, that would be perfect, which adesklet weather thing did you use, isn't there a few of them. [15:05] firebird619: I can check for you in about ten minutes here. :) [15:05] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:05] chopp: Ok, thank you. [15:06] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [15:08] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: "Leaving" [15:08] Gnu IceCat is win [15:08] or iceweasel or whatever [15:11] it's Iceweasel. IceCat sounds good too though. :) [15:11] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.9) Gecko/2009042211 IceCat/3.0.9-g1 [15:12] whoa, there is an icecat. I didn't know that. Do you have that on slackware chowabunga? [15:12] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:12] sure took 2 minutes to get [15:12] greetings [15:12] firebird619: weatherforecast-0.2.1 [15:13] chopp: Ok, thank you. [15:13] I'll give that a shot. [15:13] np [15:13] The-Croupier: greetings, how are you? [15:13] GNU IceCat, formerly known as GNU IceWeasel [15:14] chowabunga: Ah, ok, name change. [15:14] When you build firefox 3x from sources you have to disable the official Firefox branding unless you get permission to use the Firefox brand name. When you do that you end up with Firefox but it is branded Minefield [15:14] guess so [15:14] firebird619: not bad.. [15:14] antiwire: Is that why Slackware's is Firefox, it's not built from source? [15:14] i bloody lost my password for the router..damn [15:14] The-Croupier: yikes, that sucks. [15:14] firebird619: yep [15:15] firebird619: Fred, with Slamd64, ask for permission and they granted it to slamd64 [15:15] aksed* [15:15] ugh. [15:15] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:16] Ah ok, so fred builds from source. [15:16] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:16] yeah [15:16] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:16] zmyrgel (n=user@hoasb-ff09dd00-209.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [15:16] I've never used slamd64, I only have 32 bit hardware. [15:17] firebird619: there are no official x86_64 binaries for firefox, that's why [15:17] alienBOB: ah, ok, thanks. :) [15:18] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:18] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Is there a way to reset Konsole's schema's back to default. I've edited some and, well, messed them up. [15:18] firebird619: If you wanted to play with it you can snag Fred's Slamd64 build scripts and make the modifications to have it work with Slackware but that's really just for the fun of it since you'd end up with the same thing, just unbranded [15:19] antiwire: Ok, I may do that someday. I use opera all the time myself, but use ff when opera doesn't load a page right or something. [15:20] and I've been messing around with the latest opera 10 snapshot. :) [15:20] Nick change: Guest77904 -> Stx [15:21] Whoa, this last conky thing I tried actually worked with weather. It just shows the temp, but that's better than nothing. Now I'll try adesklets weather, I think I'll really like that better. [15:23] http://www.geticeweasel.org/mosaic/ [15:23] chopp: Whoa, adesklets -i ftw. :) Downloads and installes the desklets. :) [15:24] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.67.36) joined ##slackware. [15:24] chowabunga: haha, nice. [15:26] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:26] router problems.. :( [15:27] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.187.210) joined ##slackware. [15:32] D-coy (n=MBSTO@189.133.163.241) joined ##slackware. [15:32] apple bans Transmission from apple store loool [15:32] D-coy (n=MBSTO@189.133.163.241) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [15:36] bijit (n=benji@190.10.122.14) joined ##slackware. [15:38] stillborn (n=iceborn@88.193.113.46) joined ##slackware. [15:39] kennyt (n=ken@laputa.kennyt.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:40] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [15:40] hey [15:41] Hmm, I ran adesklets weatherforecast and got: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13619. At the top of that file, it shows 2.6.29.1. I'm on 2.6.29.2. [15:41] hey compl3x [15:41] hey firebird619 any lucky? [15:42] firebird619: is your uname -a output correct? [15:42] compl3x: Well, sort of, I got conky to show the temperature, so that's not to bad. [15:42] firebird619, nice [= [15:42] antiwire: yes [15:43] compl3x: I'd like it to show the forecast as well, but chopp mentioned adesklets, which has a nice looking weather desklet, so I'm trying to get that to work. [15:43] could anyone here tell me where to point rsync for a public slackware mirror? [15:44] firebird619, hmm well good luck [= [15:44] point firefox at google [15:44] compl3x: thanks. I will get it working eventually. [15:44] chowabunga: but..but..that's hard work. :P [15:44] kennyt: many of the normal ftp/http mirrors support rsync. just look for one that does [15:45] (several mirrors, such as osuosl, seem up-to-date but don't carry iso images) [15:45] make sure you use --exclude source/ [15:45] kennyt: rsync the tree and build your own [15:45] most all of them have rsync capability. [15:45] use alienBOB's mirror script? [15:45] compl3x: I use them all the time. They work excellent. [15:45] kennyt: osuosl does have iso image of versioned releases though [15:46] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2-iso/ [15:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:46] if you want Slackware current tree images just build them yourself [15:46] that osuosl directory just has the .asc and .md5 files, no images [15:47] then just make them yourself [15:47] antiwire: i don't think too many people are interested in installing some random build ;) [15:47] kennyt: well i run -current [15:47] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-9-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] and you didn't specify your version requirements [15:47] oh, it's not for me to run. i just want the official builds [15:48] i have 12.2's iso files, but i don't have a good place to update them from [15:48] kennyt: use the torrents maybe? or just download the images from a mirror that has them. If you're only seeking the iso's rsync won't make a big different over http or ftp [15:48] (or to get 12.3 or whatever's next) [15:48] 12.5 [15:49] :D [15:49] 12.3 lol [15:49] kennyt: well to update 12.2 you just need to download the patches directory from the 12.2 mirrors [15:49] i need something that can run nightly (or about that), unattended [15:49] you don't need to pull the whole iso [15:49] just pull the patches then [15:50] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [15:50] or have a look in the directory - hes also got a rsync current script [15:50] compl3x, ++ [15:50] but then i would have to build them on this end, and they wouldn't be official builds, right? [15:50] kennyt: this is the only directory you need to worry about http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [15:50] kennyt: no [15:50] you don't need to build anything. you upgradepkg to the packages in patrches/ [15:50] patches* [15:50] (the md5 sig needs to match) [15:51] paissad (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:51] nah, again, it's not for a system i'm running; it's for a mirror [15:51] look, if all you're trying to do is maintain 12.2 installs with the official updates you only need to pull the patches/packages/ and upgradepkg. It's that simple. [15:51] then rsync patches/packages. [15:52] there is no reason to pull whole images just for the patches [15:52] (for people to be able to download slackware-*.iso from here) [15:52] i give up [15:52] antwire ++ :p [15:53] most users wouldn't be happy going to a site that calls itself a "slackware mirror" and finding builds by some random person [15:53] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:53] ? [15:53] ... [15:53] what random person? [15:53] if your not capable of doing it - why mirror? [15:53] wtf? [15:53] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [15:53] me? [15:53] you aren't building anything though.... [15:53] the patches are BUILT packages.... [15:53] right, i'm just mirroring [15:54] i.e. YOU don't build them yourself, they're already built. [15:54] and signed at that [15:54] yeah, and i'm looking for a good source to rsync present/future images ... [15:56] even if you went an bought the official disk set it is still up to you to fetch the patches from the mirrors though [15:57] kennyt, you only want to mirror isos? [15:57] dive: i want to mirror everything, but i haven't found a good upstream mirror for the isos (fairly fast, preferably on internet2) [15:59] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:59] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [16:00] btw if you look at the time stamps here ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ you'll see that the files are not updated just for patches. As far as I know, if you are looking to only mirror official iso images they won't have the patches anyway [16:00] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:00] someone please correct me if i'm wrong since i only run -current [16:01] i just see signed iso checksum files with a time stamp of Dec 08 [16:01] release date of 12.2 [16:01] which suggests that you will still need to create your own images if you want them to contain all the patches anyway. [16:01] they won't change [16:01] right [16:01] till next release [16:01] i already have the packages mirrored; i just want the release ISOs [16:02] kennyt: then you're going to need to build them yourself so they contain the patches [16:02] kennyt: why don't you just download them? [16:02] just need to keep looking around for fastest mirror to use then [16:02] ? i don't care about having the patches ... just the offical builds [16:02] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] antiwire, he doesn't need up-to-date isos - he just wants to mirror the stock 12.2 (right?) [16:02] no [16:03] he wants to mirror iso images with the most recent patches [16:03] sitwon_: i have downloaded the 12.2 images, but i need to find a place where i can sync the future ISOs [16:03] sitwon_: and rsync is best because i can have it run every night, unattended [16:03] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] dive: yeah, stock 12.2 and stock 12.(future) [16:04] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] well it's a bit pointless running rsync until the next release is announced [16:04] are you just mirroring for your self? or a public mirror? [16:04] why rsync every night? [16:04] I am guessing I fail to see why you want to rsync the isos. [16:05] BP{k}: it's not just you [16:05] i already said that too [16:05] dive: well, i would like for the mirror to be updated soon after a release, and i don't really want to keep track of releases. [16:05] BP{k}: it's a public mirror [16:05] kennyt: to be honest ... [16:05] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.239.162) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:06] the better way is to sync with slackware-12.2 and slackware-current. Then when the time comes, get the sligdo files from alphageek, and you can make the isos from that. [16:06] kennyt, just susbscribe to slackware-announce mailing list perhaps? [16:06] then you only need to get the asc, and md5s files from a normal mirror an you are rready to serve them. which will be a lot faster than downloading the complete 7 isos. [16:07] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:07] d4vidc (n=d@74-209-6-39.dsl.elltel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] BP{k}: but will the generated images be the same as the stock builds, bit for bit? if not, the signatures won't match... [16:08] kennyt: yes. otherwise I wouldn't offer said solution, would I now? [16:08] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:09] BP{k}: well, few people here seem to understand the desire to mirror slackware.com builds, as opposed to custom builds [16:09] hmm wonder how pirate bay is still alive after the court case.. [16:10] compl3x: they're appealing the verdict so the punishment is pending the outcome of the appeal [16:10] kennyt: I hope you aren't referring to me with your few people comment [16:10] sitwon_, ah right [16:10] I think I understand this situation fairly well. [16:10] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.187.210) left ##slackware. [16:11] kennyt: well probably becasue you seemed to be referring to synchronising the iso files. [16:11] I am still not sure what you mean with slackware.com builds vs "custom builds" [16:11] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host232-235-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] BP{k}: that is what i'm referring to -- what else do you call syncing the local copy with the slackware.com master? [16:12] compl3x: Further, the judge in TPB's trial is being berated with accusations of Conflict of Interest. [16:12] compl3x: Considering that he works directly for the "Copyright lobby" it's a pretty fair claim. [16:12] BP{k}: maybe i'm missing a few slackware-specific terms [16:12] kennyt: synchronising a mirror. [16:12] eviljames, haha - damn I don't wanna see tpb die ]= [16:12] kennyt: FYI, you really should _not_ use slackware.com as your mirror. [16:13] BP{k}: i don't think it would even work :) ftp.slackware.com has had all of its rsync slots filled for a while now; i usually can't connect to ti [16:13] compl3x: I'd have strong doubts that it is going anywhere over the near or medium term. Everything dies in the long run. Remember Webcrawler? [16:14] eviljames, hmm yeah fair point - got isohunt for now :p [16:14] I haven't even used TPB in months... I probably wouldn't notice if they died off [16:14] antiwire: did you get jeev's disk problems solved? [16:15] kennyt: http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/sligdo/ <-- the sligdo files [16:15] chopp: He wouldn't reply to me, he thought I was trolling him. [16:16] antiwire: his loss I guess. :P [16:16] yep [16:16] BP{k}: thanks; i'm checking it out [16:17] kennyt: I use them to create iso's after a new slackware-version comes out from my local tree then help to offer them through torrents [16:17] A_666_A (n=sidmario@189-18-173-48.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:18] chopp: adesklets isn't working for me. nothing will start. [16:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("mIRC"). [16:21] firebird619: do you have an .adesklets ? [16:21] chopp: yes, but it's empty, I'm looking for a sample one right now on google. [16:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] haha - i was like that with idesk [16:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-0f4d18c56f5acfc5) joined ##slackware. [16:23] firebird619: here is mine if it helps. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13622 [16:23] I get this when running the python file itself for weatherforecast: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13621 [16:23] bijit (n=benji@190.10.122.14) left irc: "leaving" [16:23] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-70-152.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:23] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:23] and this when trying to run it from adesklets: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13619 [16:28] kennyt: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/mirroring_guidelines.txt <-- might also be worthwhile [16:28] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-55-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [16:31] firebird619: sorry it's been so long since I set it up, I can't remember if I ran into problems like this or not. [16:32] firebird619, did you build from source? [16:32] chopp: that's ok. I'm trying to figure it out. The weatherforecast desklet just needs python (check) and adesklets (check) so I don't know what's wrong. [16:33] compl3x: They are just python scripts that adesklet runs. adesklets I got from SBo. [16:33] firebird619, oh right [16:34] paissad (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] yht (n=yht@114.121.7.116) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] chopp: I tried the .adesklets file and I get this when running adesklets: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13623. So, pretty much the same as before. [16:37] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [16:37] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] firebird619: maybe try the adesklets_debug.sh script. [16:40] chopp: Ok, thanks. [16:41] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [16:42] I need some whiskey... [16:42] oooh, local university oss mirror guy just emailed me and said he added slack 12.1, 12.2, and -current [16:43] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host254-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: ""Muovendosi cambia" - Sbancor" [16:43] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [16:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] {Repelex} (n=STRESSAD@201.22.170.174.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:43] hey [16:43] hey [16:44] Hmm Ive set up different xscreens for my monitors and im running fluxbox - is there a way to move windows to the different screens like when using twinview? [16:44] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.22) left irc: [16:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:47] can someone please explain to me why my penguin turned into a rat with a beak? [16:47] is the kernel changing their logo? lol [16:47] that's the new mascot for .29 [16:47] Read dartmouth. Read [16:48] its Tuz [16:48] tuz lol [16:48] tuz tuz - dartmouth you should read Lo [16:48] i dislike it [16:48] :P - bad pun [16:48] dartmouth, I despise it [16:49] tuz is pretty ugly [16:49] oh lordy! its just a graphic you only see during boot, not like it effects the performance of the kernel [16:50] someone submit a bug report [16:50] Action: alienBOB sees flashbacks of slackware logo wars [16:50] yeah, what was the deal with that. i noticed the logo changed to that new swirly one for like two months and then it changed back [16:50] yeah, lots of people got their panties in a bunch over that flippy logo [16:51] Read amazon10x read [16:51] ;-) [16:51] lol, i read how it was conceived, but i never saw anything of its demise [16:51] it was uber [16:51] pprkut_ (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] but classic logo is classic [16:51] Read alienBOB read ;) [16:51] i thought it was awesome looking except the last letter was a bit funny because i thought it looked more like "slackwars" [16:51] pprkut_ (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] my dog wants some chocolate! [16:52] i say dont sweat the small stuff, its just a logo, not like Pat decided to just clone ubuntu [16:53] what, Pat is cloning ubuntu??? [16:53] yeap [16:53] Yes, almost done [16:53] :) [16:53] by far pats best idea [16:53] i better shut up before i start a rumor [16:54] apt-get rapes all [16:54] apt-get can suck my dick [16:54] chowabunga: trolling again? [16:54] SARCASM [16:54] :p [16:54] Where where [16:54] haha [16:54] apt-get can suck my dick [16:54] is that better? [16:55] haha [16:55] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:55] hurray, I was hoping you'd get banned [16:55] hey thrice`. How are you? [16:55] you hate me for my freedom [16:56] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:56] firebird619: about 5 minutes before going home from work, so pretty good :) [16:56] cool [16:56] I'm in a battle with adesklets, it's winning so far. :) [16:57] firebird619, omg build a weather station :p [16:57] firebird619: did soundkonverter build for you? [16:57] compl3x: haha [16:57] Pig_Pen: yes. [16:57] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] ;0 [16:57] ;) [16:57] Pig_Pen: but it choked on trying to convert files. [16:58] haven't messed with it much to see what's wrong though. [16:58] hmm, probably some backend thing [16:58] Yeah, probably. Once I win the adesklets battle, maybe I can see what's going on with soundkonverter. [16:58] look in the preferences see if you can improve its settings [16:58] yeah, will do. [16:59] alienBOB: was looking at your personal scripts on your site - very helpful thanks [= [16:59] chopp: the adesklets debug isn't even working. :P Maybe I'll just reinstall it and see if that helps. :P [16:59] i have not used soundkonverter much, i did convert a large wav file i ripped from a cdrom to ogg and to mp3 to see how it performs [17:00] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] isnt there grip [17:01] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151064087.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:01] worked ok for me for what little i did [17:01] mikearr (n=miker@pool-96-228-253-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] grip is a gnome app isnt it? there is ripperX and jripper [17:01] its a gtk app [17:02] i know its gtk, but does it require gnome too is what i am asking [17:02] dont think so [17:02] its just a front end [17:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "2+2=5. You better believe it." [17:02] might not even compile anymore [17:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl2-124.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] yht (n=yht@114.121.19.111) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Pig_Pen: It's on SBo, no deps and it says its the older version that doesn't require gnome [17:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:03] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) left irc: "never push the red button... never... oops..." [17:03] i dont do a lot of CDrom extracting, but i do like an app to get the cddb info and rip & encode on in one task [17:03] phrag (n=phrag@217.10.145.3) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [17:04] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [17:04] Anyone know how to fix this issue: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13627. Adesklets is not cooperating with me, the desklets won't start. [17:04] jeeez [17:05] did you compile it by hand? [17:05] chowabunga: nope, SBo [17:05] try it by hand [17:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) left irc: "Leaving." [17:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) joined ##slackware. [17:07] i dont think we can take anymore rain, the ground is saturated, stepping on my front lawn is like stepping on a soaking wet sponge [17:07] I get this just trying to run the python file, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13628 [17:10] someone on here was asking for some code strip and ip down to the last two segments using awk - can anyone remember the syntax? [17:10] anyone know a KDE IRC & IRC client as good as Kopete that does not periodically 'mark you as offline' on IRC and then stop updating the channels? [17:10] konversation is lots better than kopete [17:11] Konversation? [17:11] bash-3.1$ echo "192.168.0.1"|cut -d. -f3-4 [17:11] oh yeah, someone mentioned that earlier... but is it not for KDE4? [17:11] not sure, i use 3.x [17:11] ok; I will try it out. [17:11] it is actively developed they should be working on a kde-4.x version [17:11] Hmm, looking on google a bit, looks like maybe compiling adesklets with --without-fontconfig solve the problem for some. [17:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:12] compl3x> bash-3.1$ echo "123.456.789.012"|cut -d. -f3-4 >>> 789.012 [17:12] Pig_Pen: yeah, kde4 version is in svn. [17:12] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.192.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] cheers chowabunga [= [17:12] but its not awk so im TROLLING mwuahaha [17:12] not a valid ip either [17:12] haha! [17:12] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.20) joined ##slackware. [17:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] i have libv4l-0.5.97-i486-1_SBo and gspca has been in the kernel for a while now.... my cam just has either green hashes or rgb colors with shadows and others cant see me clear with in skype... wxcam works fine for the same device fine... v4l2l cant seeem to convert the jpeg images.... this cam has run under lenny and arch current.. with libv4l libraries at a lower rev #... does anyone have a fix [17:13] firebird619> you had to install imlib2 ? [17:14] sounds like desklets has that debian/gnome wierdness going on in the code [17:14] chowabunga: imlib2 is a dep of adesklets, I do have it installed. [17:15] i was just checking, does it interfere with imlib1.x at all? [17:15] Pig_Pen: I seen some forums saying it seemed like adesklets has issues with python 2.5 [17:15] d4vidc, bitlbee [17:15] hmm, whats the current stable python? 2.6 or later? [17:15] or does it prefer older? [17:15] 3.0 [17:16] chowabunga: I'm not sure if it does or not, I just have both installed and haven't noticed any weird behavior. [17:16] Pig_Pen: I think adesklets preferes older, I think the dep is at least python 2.4 though. [17:16] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:16] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.135.66) joined ##slackware. [17:16] i bet gnome is a full time job for those gnome optimized distros [17:17] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:17] slack comes with 2.5 [17:17] Pig_Pen: I just looked, adesklets needs at leasy Python 2.3 and Perl 5.8.2 [17:18] ubuntu makes me wanna laugh : they say they can't put everything on a single CD but not wonder, they put gnome on it, it'll take almost all the space ! [17:18] hi everyone :) [17:18] Hi Camarade_Tux. How are you? [17:18] the guy that maintains dropline used to hang around in here, where did he go? [17:19] firebird619, hi, /me is fine, and you ? [17:19] Pig_Pen, he has no time for irc :D [17:19] Camarade_Tux: /me is very well. :) [17:19] Camarade_Tux: just fighting adesklets. :P [17:19] spends all his time debugging gnome on slackware :P [17:19] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] talk about creating your own hell, that is it [17:19] Pig_Pen: are you talking about dagmar? [17:20] ya' [17:20] haha, he was banned a long time ago. [17:20] i forgot his nick [17:20] badboy? [17:21] probably got frustrated with gnome [17:21] lost his temper [17:21] personality conflicts you might say. [17:21] badboy would be fitting if he was banned. :P [17:21] probably fed up with people moaning about system file changes [17:21] dagmar was banned several times, and unbanned several other times too. [17:21] chopp, not his fault, he certainly grew mad :D [17:22] thumbs: true that [17:22] now you know why pat abandoned gnome, i say good riddence [17:22] he abandoned gnome cuz xfce4 came out :P [17:22] Trey__ (n=Trey@dblt-216-227-24-77.gtcom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] lol. [17:22] xfce4 is MUCH better than gnome. [17:22] thumbs: ++ [17:22] I wasn't putting him down either, I actually kind of liked the guy. [17:22] better than lots of things...and you can use kde apps in it instead of kde's horrible DE [17:23] xfce4 is what gnome should have been like, a nice lightweight gtk desktop that stays out of your way [17:23] chopp: I'm rebuilding adesklets now. :) [17:23] yeah, i remember chatting with dagmar a few years ago, he seemed ok to me [17:23] uh compiling imlib2 [17:23] libtool: link: warning: `/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.la' seems to be moved [17:23] libtool: link: warning: `/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.la' seems to be moved [17:23] Channel flood from chowabunga -- kicking [17:23] libtool: link: warning: `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.la' seems to be moved [17:24] chowabunga kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:24] chowabunga (n=chowabun@c-98-230-190-106.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] no one has any ideas on the libv4l problem that i know was fixed in other revs for my webcam chipset [17:24] that was before i spent so much time in here, i would come in to check the progress on dropline [17:24] nope, webcams and microphones on a computer are against my religion [17:25] and mics? [17:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [17:25] well since i dont have a religion it is fine 4 me ;) [17:25] the only microphones i own plug in to a two-way radio [17:25] what if you were down on your luck and lost your job and could only afford skype for calling [17:25] i got a blackbird nest outside in the bushes - next year i might have to put a waterproofed webcam in there [17:25] "religion" was a figure of speech, actually i am an atheist [17:26] i know Pig_Pen [17:26] im playin with ya [17:26] firebird619: I noticed mine isn't an SBo build, but I don't remember why. Maybe the same issue you're having. [17:26] hehe [17:26] Pig Pen: I do not know if the improved KDE4 (after the problematic version) is released for Slackware and right now I have more important things to think of. [17:27] kde 4 might be ready by kde 4.5 [17:27] if i did not want to mess up my slackware install i would use a live cd that has a good skype setup included, 1 boot the live cd, 2, make phone call, 3,????? 4 profit!!! [17:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-10-1.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] chopp: could be. I seen on some forums that building with --without-fontconfig may help. [17:28] Vi^3PirePengy> things get better, but not always in the right directions [17:28] Rat409 (n=greg@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] chowabunga, preach it.... im jobless and have to use skype [17:29] I use skype for all my outbound calls. Voip for inbound. [17:29] mine is just pc to pc.... [17:29] food time [17:30] how far away is the other PC? [17:30] paissad (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:30] paissad (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] okay one more question.. qemu fails to compile because it needs esd as dep but its not available in slckpkg or sbopkg... by itself but it is part of alsa-libs which i have on my box [17:30] Pig_Pen, netherlands, australia, usa, canada [17:31] Pig_Pen, anywhere and i dig conference calls [17:31] Vi^3PirePengy> qemu never fails to compile... [17:31] ok, then two-way walkie-talkies are out [17:31] chowabunga, well tell my compiler that [17:31] qemu worked with no problem here [17:31] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:31] on the checks it looks for esd and fails [17:31] esd = enlightenent sound demon [17:31] esd = esound [17:32] but that is in alsa-libs already [17:32] you can also use ./configure --help [17:32] esd is included in slack [17:32] and get rid of esd [17:32] esd was bundled with alsa-libs? [17:32] yep [17:32] since when? [17:32] didnt know that [17:32] --audio-drv-list=LIST set audio drivers list: [17:32] Available drivers: oss alsa sdl esd pa fmod [17:33] chowabunga, how do you get that list [17:33] i always seen it as a seperate package in slack [17:33] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:33] Pig_Pen, i cant find it [17:33] ./configure --help works everywhere [17:33] Pig_Pen, im quite new to slack [17:33] used to binaries not builds [17:33] Vi^3PirePengy, are you using the qemu slackbuild? [17:33] esd is included in slackware [17:34] l/esound Vi^3PirePengy [17:34] dive, im using sbopkg [17:34] hmmm [17:34] oh, someone already said that [17:34] look at /var/log/packages/esound-0.2.38-i486-1 [17:34] Vi^3PirePengy> do ls -l /var/log/packages/esound* [17:35] i dont have it [17:35] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [17:35] did you not install it [17:35] thats why...you should do a full install when you first get slackware [17:35] Pig_Pen, i installed the kitchen sink [17:35] what version [17:35] 12.2 [17:35] chopp: Building with --without-fontconfig fixed it. Everything works now. [17:35] {Repelex} (n=STRESSAD@201.22.170.174.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [17:35] wtf [17:36] guys what is that command that shows different outputs of programs running..dmesg? or something else? that shows what is going on in the system log something.... [17:36] is it better to keep your code in ~ or /usr/src? [17:36] htop [17:36] ps aux [17:36] lsmod [17:36] nope [17:36] none [17:36] firebird619: hey right on, good to hear. Screenshot or it didn't happen. :P [17:36] something does not jibe here, Vi^3PirePengy are you sure your running slackware? or are you bluffing your way through free tech help for some other distro? [17:36] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.135.66) left irc: "Leaving." [17:37] d4vidc: the best thing is to set up a code repository using revision control, either cvs, subversion, or git would be my recommendation [17:37] Linux vampypengy 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:32:43 CST 2008 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2060 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:37] ... after you have your code repository, then check code out from it into your ~ [17:37] chopp: haha. Now I just have to figure out how to configure the weather so it shows weather for where I'm at. [17:37] I do not code enough yet that I need a repository [17:38] it would be more than it is worth [17:38] guys anyone compiled qt4? does it really take that long to compile? [17:38] 6 hrs [17:38] its been nearly 7mins now [17:38] The-Croupier: yes, takes forever [17:38] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [17:38] d4vidc: OK, then I would put it under your ~ and use git to revision control it "in place" [17:38] It takes hours [17:38] i did it [17:38] The-Croupier> yes [17:38] damn [17:38] and found out it is already binary [17:38] sux [17:38] i have a list of stuff to do after that.. damn [17:38] I am compiling a new VLC, and it;'s been chewing away at Qt4 for a while now [17:39] chopp: Ah ha, figured it out. :) [17:39] you can type it out and the terminal will run it next [17:39] Pig_Pen, im definitely not bluffing [17:39] ok, just checking [17:39] alright what if i compile other stuff at the same time..its not gonna freak on me right? [17:39] or use ^Z and append it to fg [17:40] well you can compile at the same time if you want as long as you dont need qt4 [17:40] d4vidc: I'd definitely recommend at least learning the fundamentals of revision control, even if just starting to learn how to code :) [17:40] System: Host vampypengy Kernel 2.6.27.7-smp i686 (32 bit) Distro Slackware 12.2.0 [17:40] im stopped at creating qmake.please wait... [17:40] it will take about 1/2 hr [17:40] or more [17:40] the comptuer most of the time wont look like its doing anything unless you look at htop [17:40] Vi^3PirePengy> so did you fix qemu yet :) [17:40] chowabunga, no i dont know how [17:41] i have no esd and couldnt find it in slackpkg or sbopkg [17:41] ok...while its doing that..i need to know what else is wrong with my system... [17:41] Vi^3PirePengy, install the esound package [17:41] oh esound [17:41] kk ty [17:41] Vi^3PirePengy: esd is in slackware [17:41] dive, im sorry i missed that [17:41] just type esd or man esd [17:41] at least its in mine [17:42] well try --audio-dr-list=alsa or install the esound package by downloading it from the slackware/slackware-12.2/l/esound- package and doing isntallpkg as root (su - in a terminal) [17:42] chowabunga, he's using sbopkg [17:42] rk4n3: thanks for the advice... I am also asking because I have 27Gb in ~: art & music & writing that I made and collected.... so I am trying to clear it up... but I would probably link to /usr/src if I put it there anyway... sometimes I just do a bit of serious coding like trying to compile and rarely fix a lot of downloaded source. [17:42] dive> whatever that means [17:42] Trey__ (n=Trey@dblt-216-227-24-77.gtcom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:43] http://www.sbopkg.org is you haven't tried it yet [17:43] what do you mean, chowabunga, I wrote too much? I guess I should not have gone over 2 lines [17:43] chowabunga: its a pkg that helps you install stuf from sbo..;) [17:43] meh [17:43] it downloads, compiles and installs slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org [17:43] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.187) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:43] Action: The-Croupier agrees with whatever dive said [17:44] ;) [17:44] it makes life _very_ simple [17:44] if i wanted gentoo, id use gentoo [17:44] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-0f4d18c56f5acfc5) left irc: [17:44] dive: yep especially if you dont have time to search around..and i have grown to trust sbo nowadays [17:45] chowabunga, so you only install probuilt packages? [17:45] so.... i only read the sbo cos i like learning about the dependencies..and the stuff it says like the readme.. [17:45] s/pro/pre/ [17:45] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [17:45] The-Croupier, you can read the README in sbopkg [17:46] dive: yeah..i guess..kind of fond of sbo..cannot let it go [17:46] ;) [17:46] dive> i'll install any from slackware.com and occasionally third parties [17:46] Action: The-Croupier installs no third parties [17:46] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.116.40) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] I just check it now again to see if my subs have been approved yet [17:47] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:47] if its an application i like and they took the time to make a slackpack, i'll use it...never had any problems [17:48] dive: im really glad that some of the pkgs i was trying to make slackbuilds are already in sbo ;) [17:48] i couldnt make a pkg, and it looks like i will never be able to make one [17:48] even if i read the howtos like 100s of times.. [17:48] nah it's easy enough [17:48] ppl told me how to do them another 100s [17:48] grab a template [17:48] i did [17:48] i dont know why i cannot do it [17:48] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.7) left irc: [17:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424419.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:49] i read the how to..i read the structure..i tried it step by step..i tried it like old_fogie told me... i tried it with a template(already madeone) [17:49] stillborn (n=iceborn@88.193.113.46) left irc: "i'll be back" [17:49] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:49] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCl [17:50] perhaps the source needs some special type of make [17:50] i can edit them to new versions or if somethings wrong with the format of the pkg or stuff like that [17:50] dive: really dont know..i have tried so many times [17:50] :( [17:50] iirc alienBOB has a web-interface slackbuild generator [17:50] really? [17:50] APL or something like that [17:50] think so [17:51] I've found that most of the SB's I've made have had weird makes that didn't support DESTDIR or some other ridiculousness [17:51] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] dive is DESTDIR does not work try INSTALL_ROOT [17:51] yeah [17:52] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-70-152.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:52] but some I've had to cp the files over or sed the makefile.. [17:52] was it worth it? [17:52] I think that's why they weren't on SBo [17:52] yeah it's worth it - if a program is useful why not share the slackbuild?? [17:52] dive: ;) i see [17:53] http://alien.slackbook.org/AST/ [17:53] dive: i completely agreee... [17:53] because you cant even write a slackbuild that will get accepted? [17:53] who? me? [17:53] 90% [17:53] So harsh... so uncalled for... [17:53] dive: when i believe that something is worth i usually mention it here..and probably someone would help me make it or someone would do it [17:53] I've got many on SBo thanks [17:54] The-Croupier, well if you are having problems with one give me a shout and I can look at it [17:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:54] he has been flappin off about slackbuilds for days now. [17:54] I know [17:54] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] hey i didnt bring it up [17:55] an i thought i was abrasive, glad to know there are people meaner than me :D [17:55] You carry a history now, and I do not forget [17:55] dive: thanks man, really appreciate it [17:55] you arent mean [17:55] The-Croupier, np at all :-) [17:55] rm $SHELL_history should clear that up [17:56] alienBOB: thanks for all your info there as well in your site ;) [17:56] i do have a mean abrasive streak in me, it does not show often [17:56] i try to keep it under control [17:56] Action: alienBOB does not think there are *mean* people in the channel at the moment [17:57] alienBOB forgets. He did not say a THING about my birfday. [17:57] But booze and drugs can do a lot to folks [17:57] Action: The-Croupier believes alienBOB didnt read above atm [17:57] Action: dartmouth thinks alienBOB is cranky sometimes :P [17:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:57] dartmouth: I did not get a birthday card either from you [17:57] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:57] alienBOB: i didn't want to violate the restraining order [17:58] lol [17:58] lol [17:58] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] alienBOB: alot of people love you thats why for all that you do [17:58] happy birthday dartmouth, how old are you? [17:58] Action: The-Croupier hands them both a birthday card [17:58] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:58] Pig_Pen: i turned 24 [17:58] Action: dive does too [17:58] Action: firebird619 does three. :P [17:58] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:58] dartmouth: I turned twice your age ... [17:58] happy bday to both of you [17:59] i turned 48 last month [17:59] Action: dive didn't want to ask :P [17:59] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:59] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCl [17:59] damn that means we have to buy them more birthday cards? :( [17:59] alienBOB: ouch. so, if im learning slack this fast, by the time I turn 48 I should have your butt wooped :D :D [17:59] dartmouth: fast? Since when [17:59] erm 6 12 24 48!! [17:59] dont worry about me, i dont want to be reminded about getting older any more than necessary [17:59] lol [18:00] haha [18:00] The-Croupier: Well, if we buy in bulk, we may get a discount. [18:00] I have some hair on my chin (I really do ! \o/ ) [18:00] ok, actually I'm a bit older than that ;) [18:00] i guess you two are running in base 6 then [18:00] alienBOB: i had only ever used the GUI in windows 98/XP as of...3 yrs ago. [18:00] yeah.. i suggest most of the channel should have a huge birthday card session for alienBOB and dartmouth [18:00] Camarade_Tux: picture or it's not true. :P [18:00] ;) [18:00] Action: firebird619 puts on his party hat. [18:01] da Vi^3PirePengy does the happy dance because qemu built and tosses out frozen fishee pops to all the crowd [18:01] Action: The-Croupier brings the booze [18:01] Action: The-Croupier turns off the lights [18:01] contrats Vi^3PirePengy [18:01] firebird619, sorry, stk11xx (webcam) and mplayer and kernel 2.6.29 not working ;) [18:01] firebird619: shhhhhhhh you have to bring the cake [18:01] ya it was that one file [18:01] Vi^3PirePengy, qemu is very nice [18:01] well i have a vbox img [18:01] Vi^3PirePengy \o/ [18:01] but it wont upgrade [18:01] Vi^3PirePengy, did you get the kqemu module sb too? [18:02] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:02] so im going to see if i can make it a bin and force a conversion [18:02] im just pumped because i finally made my first 'slackware based' distro this morning for someone's laptop [18:02] no dont need the kpart [18:02] that bastard of a pkg is still compiling.. painting something ...what the hell? [18:02] its gonna take hrs.. took me 6 [18:02] The-Croupier: What are you building? [18:02] qt4 [18:02] lol [18:03] OUCH, that sucker takes forever. [18:03] takes a while [18:03] 6hours?!!! you are joking right? [18:03] well he could use the binary [18:03] why are you compiling qt4? [18:03] no [18:03] The-Croupier: It took me 4 last week. [18:03] 30 minutes :P [18:03] but he wants to do it the fu way [18:03] and now there's a newer version. :( [18:03] it built faster on mine but I don't recall how long [18:03] yeah by the time it's done installing he'll have to update it [18:03] less than an hour I think [18:03] The-Croupier: I do have a binary Qt4 package [18:04] dartmouth: I built it last week and now there's an update, ugh. [18:04] hah [18:04] slackpkg ;) [18:04] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:04] CPU: Dual core Intel T2060 (SMP) cache 1024 KB flags (sse3 nx) bmips 6383.9 [18:04] Clock Speeds: (1) 1595.975 MHz (2) 1595.975 MHz [18:04] The-Croupier, that box [18:04] 6 hrs [18:04] Even if you parallelize the build? (ie: make -j12) [18:05] alienBOB: ? [18:05] i let sbopkg do its deal [18:05] you know what I'd really like to be able to do? cut off a USB connector and wire it up to a remote so I can change the TV with my terminal [18:05] hehe [18:05] dartmouth: easier with serial + lirc [18:05] Oh man, why are actions grey in irssi, I cant read them on anything other than black bg and I don't like a black bg. [18:05] dartmouth, you just lazy [18:05] dartmouth: serial + uv LED + lirc [18:05] eviljames: really? do tell. [18:05] dartmouth, yeah serial+lirc - i suggest it ive got it setup here [18:05] are there docs on this? [18:06] simple circuits [= [18:06] UV LED? no. they are IR [18:06] i've been on a 'hack everything to work on my computer' kick lately [18:06] fail haha [18:06] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+lirc+serial [18:06] no no man, im talking about the process of making new serial devices work [18:06] antiwire: my mistake [18:06] kk thx [18:06] antiwire: having not actually built it, dunno why I thought it was uv... [18:06] firebird619: I'm waaaiting. ;) [18:06] UV remotes would be cool for killing bacteria on your tv screen though ;) [18:06] oh dude. eviljames that website is meeean [18:07] echo -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness [18:07] that ones fun [18:07] haha [18:07] chopp: hold your horses for crying out loud. [18:07] firebird619, you know there are loads of themes at irssi.org to use? [18:07] dartmouth: hahahah it's my favorite website right now [18:07] lol [18:07] look at the other values available and no buttons to adjust scree brightess [18:07] dive: Indeed, for a while I used your, iirc, diversity theme. [18:07] dartmouth: you can always type http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q= then your search terms with + and it provides a fun link [18:07] Vi^3PirePengy: my laptop screen's backlight is controlled by hardware hot keys [18:08] i dont fully understand why on earth there would need to be a repo of 'irssi' themes. you've got like...256 colors to choose from, right? ;) [18:08] I can set it in software but the hardware keys override any craziness [18:08] foreground, background [18:08] antiwire, well my fn key doesnt work in kde [18:08] Vi^3PirePengy: that sucks [18:08] firebird619, I have more now but most are aimed at black backgrounds - I'm sure there are some at irssi.org could work with light bg's [18:08] so i had to resort to the script [18:08] chopp: I'm still customizing, you'll get a screenshot when it's good and ready. [18:08] mine FN key works regardless of OS or DE for that matter [18:08] mine/my [18:08] which is what the keys do anyway or suppsoed to [18:09] alienBOB: you have pkgs for 12.1 im on 12.2 upgraded [18:09] antiwire, i have had hit and miss with the fn key [18:09] same box but diff de/wms [18:09] Action: chopp throws a valium at firebird619 [18:09] one de will work the other wont [18:09] and ive already started to compile..it kills me stopping it ;) i just wish i new how long is left for the sucker to finish [18:09] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:09] hey guys [18:09] The-Croupier: yes I just noticed. I need to build some of my packages for 12.2 before 13.0 goes live 8-) [18:09] dive: yeah, I don't really care for the dark black backgrounds. I'm used to yakuake which I had really nice, but I've seemingly messed up the transparent schema in console as it's no longer transparent. Yakuake doesn't work well with flux, it's not smooth or anything. [18:10] alienBOB, di you see my webcam question earlier [18:10] alienBOB: do we know roughly when that is going to be? [18:10] I finally bought a webcam, now I'm wondering if there is pre-installed app I can test it on. [18:10] firebird619, yeah you might need to customise the theme to get it to work with flux properly - I had that problem in non-kde DE's [18:10] caio (n=caio@190.244.36.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] firebird619, yakuake theme that is [18:11] i have libv4l-0.5.97-i486-1_SBo and gspca has been in the kernel for a while now.... my cam just has either green hashes or rgb colors with shadows and others cant see me clear with in skype... wxcam works fine for the same device fine... v4l2l cant seeem to convert the jpeg images.... this cam has run under lenny and arch current.. with libv4l libraries at a lower rev #... does anyone have a fix [18:11] Vi^3PirePengy: I saw a lot of questions you posted, and thought I'd let you read and gain a bit more knowledge first [18:11] dive: yeah, it's just not right for some reason now in flux, I will get it eventually. :) [18:11] wxcam is good Buggaboo [18:11] The-Croupier: yes: "when it's done" [18:11] Vi^3PirePengy, pre-installed? [18:11] doubt it. [18:11] firebird619: how did you manage transparency with flux..tried that but ..well didnt work like 8months ago [18:11] no not preinstalled [18:11] dive: for whatever reason, konsole's transparent schema is grey with no transparency at all. [18:11] but less deps than cheese [18:11] alienBOB: fantastic.. ;) [18:11] kopete will show your webcam video feed [18:12] ah. [18:12] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/sakura/ firebird619 try this x terminal [18:12] firebird619, I don't know if I've still got my customised yak theme still - gimme a sec to boot up desktop pc and I'll have a look [18:12] Maybe even xine but I never tested that with a webcam [18:12] The-Croupier: Well, I haven't done much with flux transparency except change alpha to 160 [18:12] dive: ok, thanks. [18:12] alienBOB, thing is this is the newest libv4l out and my cam has worked with lower revs but wont with this one and im doing the same thing... i even had a preloader script [18:12] hmf, I wrote a wee udev rule to load it on /dev/webcam [18:13] Pig_Pen: ok, I'll give that a try. [18:13] firebird619: mine si a little gone wrong with all that messing around [18:13] no mention of it in kopete though, in config. [18:13] i like it as much as yakuake [18:13] firebird619, mind you that only fixed the tab bar - I don't think I ever managed to get trans to work properly in flux [18:13] The-Croupier: Yeah, I haven't done much with it, but will in the coming days to get it really nice. [18:13] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.128.20) left irc: Connection timed out [18:13] alienBOB, i fixed it crashing.... that was a matter of using the intel driver in X vs vesa... XV was crashing [18:13] Vi^3PirePengy: then downgrade :) [18:13] device can't change to /dev/webcam for some reason. [18:14] Yes VESA can have some nasty effects [18:14] I usually run xorgsetup very fast after a fresh install [18:14] alienBOB, but my video is worse on the cam now then it was with vesa [18:14] firebird619: sakura has a right click menu to adjust preferences = font & colors, has tabbed windows, even a fake transparency so your wallpaper will show through [18:14] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] i have sound, and it doesnt segfault now [18:14] Pig_Pen: nice, I just installed it now. [18:14] firebird619, no I don't have that theme anymore.. sorry :/ [18:15] I loaded the necessary drivers, V4L, wrote a udev rule, what else?! argh [18:15] dive: that's alright, thanks for looking. :) [18:15] Pig_Pen: wow, that's really nice. [18:15] yeah, i like it [18:15] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Pig_Pen: thanks for mentioning it. [18:16] hm. [18:16] i use yakuake when i am in kde, sakura when using any other de [18:16] I keep forgetting I'm on slamd64. @work I'm on slackware. [18:16] I'll go bug fred. [18:16] lol [18:17] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:18] guys, what is the shell command for making fat32 partitions? [18:18] i've forgot.. [18:18] Pig_Pen: Do you know if you can do complete borderless, etc with sakura? [18:18] mkdosfs -F 32 [18:18] mkfs.vfat [18:18] alienBOB, Your too fast! :p [18:18] alienBOB: thanks [18:18] or mkdosfs -F32 or something [18:18] oh no your not - or you might be - had 1.5second lag XD [18:18] chowabunga: no mkfs.vfat on Slackware [18:18] firebird619: i think that depends on the window manager, how it handles the window frame, openbox makes window frames good [18:19] you want an experience go for xmonad [18:19] lol [18:19] Pig_Pen: Wow, I'm on sakura now with irssi, PERFECT with 40% opacity. [18:19] whats a sakura [18:19] sakura is nice [18:19] dropdown console [18:19] oh ok like yakkuake [18:19] err, I can't switch windows with alt + window # now. :( [18:20] sakura is a japanese flower, also a x terminal window [18:20] ctrl n [18:20] firebird619: how about alt + arrows [18:20] The-Croupier: nope. [18:21] i love my screen in konsole [18:21] ctrl n work firebird619 ? [18:21] Pig_Pen: that works, thanks. Is there a way to get it so alt + # works? [18:21] not that i know of [18:21] If not, Ctrl + n works alright too [18:21] ok, thanks. :) This is really nice. [18:22] i only found it, the thanks goes to who ever wrote the code of sakura [18:22] agreed [18:22] load up weechat-curses adn bitlbee and go to town, add a new window and launch mplayer, and top it off with mutt [18:22] which i have to fix my muttrc [18:23] I've never set mutt up, I should though, I have to get my mailserver done first, just a simple pull the mail from the ISP, point the mail client to it. [18:23] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:24] mutt is nice but i guess the rev changes have changed the syntax for some of my lines so i have to find hte new syntax [18:24] i would use mutt but i got to use my ISP's point and click to delete spam with a browser, an email client handles send & receive though [18:24] so right now its kmail with gpg and gmail pop [18:25] google loves encrypted emails ;) [18:25] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [18:25] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [18:26] erm I thought sakura was a dropdown terminal like yakuake? [18:27] what's the name of the other dropdown one? [18:27] FBUI is good [18:27] i know of guake adn yakuake [18:27] Pig_Pen: Yeah, I want to get a mailserver that handles the received and sent mail, and then point the mail client to where the mails stored. I'd like to use opera with that so I think I could set up imapd also and use opera via imap. [18:27] dive: tilda [18:27] ah maybe [18:27] not as nice imha [18:27] imho [18:27] I know I've tried another [18:28] was a bit buggy or lacking features [18:28] I forget why I dropped using it [18:28] maybe FBUI is buggy but it is a good idea [18:28] dive: I think there is another one, but I don't recall the name [18:28] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) left irc: "Leaving." [18:28] i was trying rxvt-uni but copying/pasting was pita [18:29] and links would click [18:29] Vi^3PirePengy, I found the font way too small to use and it wouldn't accept other sizes [18:29] s/would/wouldnt [18:29] dive: I found that too, fonts were not nice. [18:29] so i went back to konsole [18:30] Nick change: ag3ntugl1 -> ag3ntugly [18:30] i like that wxcam works perfect [18:31] guys, what would you suggest as a gui hex editor? [18:31] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [18:31] as editor i like vim ;) as hex editor i dont know any.. [18:32] Im wirting a script, and im trying to loop through my files in a directory - files and directorys - some of the dirs have spaces in them - for file in `ls -l $MOVIES` isn't doing the trick - any advice? [18:32] The-Croupier, khex? [18:34] compl3x: look at the actual output of ls -l - that's now what you want [18:34] compl3x: ls -l "$MOVIES" [18:35] compl3x: oh, and backtics are deprecated, please consider not using them [18:35] compl3x, you're doomed, who put spaces in your paths ? must be a gremlin =/ [18:35] Camarade_Tux, I didn't - torrents :p [18:35] macavity: greetings [18:35] macavity, $( ) only works for bash, backticks work for all others [18:36] compl3x, pirate ! [18:36] 8) [18:36] Camarade_Tux: then the others are not POSIX compliant.... [18:36] compl3x, http://bigeshoe.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tipiak.jpg [18:36] compl3x: for i in $(ls -l "$MOVIES"); do file "$i"; done [18:36] i remember you had aconversation with old_fogie some days ago..about files that are wrong..you even created that little script..that shows a list of files.. [18:36] hmm for file in `ls "$MOVIES"`still does the same thing [18:36] macavity, ill give it a shot cheers [= [18:37] d4vidc, looking at FBUI now - downloading the live cd (11MBs!) [18:37] i went through it the other day..and i dont see what is wrong with them..? "( [18:37] Camarade_Tux, haha [18:37] macavity, can't remember, only wanted to remind of bashisms ;) [18:37] compl3x, bigoudènes :) [18:37] Camarade_Tux: $() is not a bashism.. please look it up in the POSIX specification of a Bourne compatible sh [18:38] is there a uniquie indenifier on every machine? [18:38] like the CPU or w/e? [18:38] The-Croupier, tried khexedit? [18:38] not the MAC address.. [18:38] The-Croupier: hexcurses pwnz :) [18:38] dive: not yet [18:38] macavity, not a bashism then, but only bash understands it iirc [18:38] I use shed mostly [18:38] looking at hexedit ;) [18:38] well 'mostly' being once or twice [18:39] Camarade_Tux: ash, zsh and ksh does too.. i dont know about BSD sh [18:40] Camarade_Tux: but i would be *very* surprised if they only understood the "convenience notation", but not its original [18:40] ksh ok [18:40] Camarade_Tux: i find it a heck of a lot more likely that it is only bash that understands backtics [18:40] acidchild: sort of, one unique ID you can use is the disk UUID [18:41] acidchild: hexcurses i cannot find in sourceforge.net :( [18:41] that should never change as long as the disk is not formatted [18:41] macavity, iirc most recent versions of bash *don't* understand backticks (and that's the reason they're not making it into slackware) [18:41] i had a script i had to change today it was /bin/sh which should have worked bc sh is supposed to be linked to /bin/bash... NOT on this box [18:41] http://pastebin.com/m20911997 -is there a way I can do this by new line? its seperating as spaces atm [18:41] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] acidchild: Not sure if it helps you at all but: ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [18:42] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:42] Camarade_Tux: they understand it for login shells, but not for interactive shells *iirc* [18:42] Camarade_Tux: but yes, they are being depricated because they are incompatible [18:44] have to sleep now, night :) [18:44] night Camarade_Tux [18:44] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] firebird619, btw, if you're there, could you remind me to do some pumps and abdos tomorrow ? ;p [18:44] alienBOB: check this out [18:44] http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?ver=6&pkgname=alien&pkgver=8.75 [18:45] Camarade_Tux: http://aron.nu/?q=node/21 [18:45] Camarade_Tux: in short, you spoke out of your ass [18:45] macavity, read that two minutes ago ;) [18:45] Camarade_Tux: haha, sure. I'm always in here so np. [18:45] i.e. older implementations don't get it [18:45] anything in slackware should however [18:46] acidchild: i got a better one sudo dmidecode | grep UUID [18:46] and solaris 8 not having cought up is no excuse [18:46] just prune all scripts of backticks and lets move on :P [18:46] The-Croupier: alien (the software) been around for ages?? [18:46] Hey BP{k}. How are you? [18:47] sudo dmidecode -s system-uuid [18:47] i checked open solarus' wifi support it is the worst of the *ux for wifi when it comes to supporting wifi adapters [18:47] BP{k}: looks like it... [18:47] greetings BP{k} ;) [18:48] it just got my attention cos its got the same name ;) [18:48] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Action: Camarade_Tux really [in bed] now ;) [18:48] on the other hand there is a linux distro the same as my name ;) [18:49] antiX [18:49] ?? [18:49] Camarade_Tux: night Mbyte [18:49] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.218) joined ##slackware. [18:49] a mepis lite sort of deal [18:49] antiX, i read about it at distrowatch [18:49] Action: Camarade_Tux is sure he's the only to suspend his computer with 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' [18:49] nigth The-Croupier :) [18:49] firebird619: I am well, thanks. yoursellf? [18:49] BP{k}: doing great, thank you. :) [18:50] Camarade_Tux: I do it the same way but i execute the command via acpi hooks [18:50] Rat409 (n=greg@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.7-dev"). [18:50] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] another source of pkgs..apart from sbo? [18:51] build from source. :P [18:51] The-Croupier: aliens and rworkmans repositories. [18:52] The-Croupier: qt4 still building? :D [18:52] firebird619: yes the bastard :( [18:53] BP{k}: apart from those..:( you know i know those already [18:53] haha, I haven't started it yet, I dread having to build that. takes a lifetime. [18:53] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:53] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:53] firebird619: i didnt know i started it the minute i got my internet reinstalled at home [18:53] Action: The-Croupier is in his first internet experience after 4months :( at home ;) [18:54] It's unbelievable how long it takes to build. [18:54] The-Croupier: wow, where are you from? [18:54] and the first thing i did is this...its unbelievable i tried that without reading or asking first ;) [18:54] greece...but i moved home [18:54] The-Croupier: I am tempted to say not that I know that are trustworthy enough. [18:54] and companies here take a bloody time to reinstall [18:55] BP{k}: i will not hold it against you ;) [18:55] sources? [18:55] anything even names that i get an idea ..what could be done;) [18:55] or what i can fix or edit or do...;) [18:56] Ok, I just started qt4 building. Oh man here we go. :) [18:56] firebird619: you thinking of going to sleep soon ;) [18:56] lol [18:56] Oh gosh no, it's only 17:50, I'll be up for several hours yet. [18:56] oh ur alien [18:56] i get it [18:57] firebird619: that'll be finished in a couple of hours ;) [18:57] The-Croupier: thankfully, it will be done well before I go to bed. [18:57] http://pastebin.com/m1d4788ce - any info anyone? [18:57] BP{k}: The last one took 4 hours. [18:57] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:57] firebird619: on what kind of machine? [18:58] firebird619: its like 2am here..i have to get up at 7 teach from 9till 4straight [18:58] 7-9 drive to work ;) [18:58] Linux slackware 2.6.29.2-rt10-smp-rt #2 SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Apr 29 19:30:09 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [18:58] if i go to Area 51 what are my chances of becoming a UFO pilot? [18:59] Linux THE-Croupier 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:32:43 CST 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [18:59] The-Croupier: I'm usually up until about 03:00. [18:59] Pig_Pen, Sorry buddy - slim. [18:59] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] darn! [18:59] Pig_Pen: you're chances of getting shot or taken into custody are much higher though [18:59] not taking applications i guess [18:59] Pig_Pen: what are your chances of being shot once you cross past the warning sign. [18:59] Pig_Pen: i'm actually going to camp out in the desert near groom lake next month [19:00] antiwire: seriously? Have fun. :) [19:00] bring a camera with telephoto lens [19:00] The-Croupier, what do you teach? [19:00] compl3x: ohh dear :( lets say i convert people to slackware [19:00] ;) [19:00] before they go to universities [19:00] The-Croupier, awesome [= [19:01] Pig_Pen: they've moved the boundaries out though, so there is not visual vantage point for civilians anymore. However, camping out in the desert floor is still legal and you can sometimes see aircraft [19:01] The-Croupier: SWEET, so you use your powers for good and not evil (i.e. converting them to Big Brown (Ubuntu). :) [19:01] firebird619: what is the rt there? [19:01] The-Croupier: real-time kernel. [19:01] firebird619: havent suggested that yet thank god [19:01] yeah, i miss the deserts in that part of the country [19:02] haha, and you better never do so either. :D [19:02] i know enough of the basics for ppl to like my laptop and my slackware knowledge its easy for them to like slackware [19:02] i used to live in Calif, and loved to camp out in the deserts by Joshua Tree [19:02] In getting a too many arguments error on line 13 here -- any help? http://pastebin.com/m1930c3e7 [19:02] The-Croupier: It's all in the sales pitch. ;) [19:02] Pig_Pen: the funny part is, out there in the California and Nevada deserts they test the drones so no matter what they see you [19:02] firebird619: i was sure i compiled this kernel an di put preempt and real time..but it doesnt show there... [19:02] ;) [19:02] you can see the drones flying over 24/7 [19:03] firebird619: thats the nice part in this..i sell it but i get no money for it [19:03] just pleasure.. [19:03] The-Croupier: And you used the rt patch? [19:03] oh yeah, i can believe it with the infrared cameras the darkness do not hide anyone [19:03] please dont hold any grudges if any of my students end up here ;) [19:03] firebird619: rt patch? [19:03] that's how you get real-time, you apply a patch to the kernel source. [19:04] it looks like you are in the new kernel ;) have to try that at some point [19:04] I haven't went to 2.6.29.3 yet, no rt patch for it yet. [19:04] unless they put it up today. [19:04] firebird619: no, havent done that..maybe on the weekend [19:04] http://rlworkman.net/js/ [19:04] roflmao [19:05] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [19:05] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:05] Vi^3PirePengy: hahaha [19:05] noscript ftw [19:05] omg that's awesome. [19:06] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:06] im still laughing [19:06] it's old... [19:06] ya but it s good [19:06] lol [19:06] nice one [19:07] just install noscript and you'll never need to worry about things like that [19:07] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:07] i paste3d it on every room im in... most of these ppl know zip about computers [19:07] That was dumb. [19:07] antiwire: theres nothing to worry its rworkman ;) [19:07] He should've put at least 2 infinite loops [19:07] Just in case you escaped from the first one. [19:07] or a simple question - 1+1=? [19:07] (in base 7) [19:08] ;-) [19:08] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Action: compl3x is annoyed - fell for it [19:08] eviljames: put one of those on the studios page. :P [19:08] too tired ]= [19:09] firebird619: studios page? [19:09] compl3x: you are getting sleepy, very sleepy. :) [19:09] you feel your eyes closing [19:09] firebird619, mm hmm probs a good time to make a move [19:09] and your head heavy [19:09] cya guys [19:09] Stop it! [19:09] :p [19:09] damn that worked [19:09] firebird619: ;) [19:09] d4vidc, well I tried out the FBUI livecd - looks useful but it wouldn't read any keyboard input.. [19:10] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [19:10] The-Croupier: haha [19:10] The-Croupier: that was easy. [19:10] lol [19:10] dive: you are getting sleepy, very sleepy. :P [19:10] yeah...let try our forces somewhere else [19:10] ;) [19:10] very sleepy [19:10] nope - I still got 1/2 bottle of wine to drink ;P [19:10] haha [19:10] your head is heavy and your wine is finishing [19:10] rofl [19:11] nice try [19:11] deeper and deeper....waaay dooowwwwnn [19:11] *heart attack* [19:11] zzzzZZZZZZZZZZ [19:11] lol [19:11] you know you can drink faster [19:11] ugh [19:11] antiwire: I recognize office space 100 miles away :D [19:11] you know where the aspirins are... ;) your hand goes there on its own [19:11] eviljames, don't be evil [19:11] haha [19:12] lol [19:12] The-Croupier: the force is very powerful. [19:12] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (93% of Full) [19:12] firebird619: wrong dude...you never mess with a drunk guy [19:12] just remember guys, jedi mind tricks don't work on other jedis [19:12] hes already hypnotised [19:12] The-Croupier: haha [19:12] antiwire: even worse in drunk jedis [19:12] hmm I just remembered [19:13] Next SubGenius holiday: May 31 Desecration Day [19:13] double shield [19:13] hahaha [19:13] dive: oh boy i can't wait to desecrate something [19:13] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:14] like take Bob's pipe and give him an otter pop instead [19:14] C00re_ (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [19:15] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] dive: Unfortunately, I have no choice. It is my nature. [19:15] muhaha [19:15] yht (n=yht@114.121.19.111) left irc: "I must go.. [on Debian Lenny i686] - Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP" [19:16] dive: sorry to sound kind of off here..but what is that...google doesnt help much [19:16] I will one day take on my alterego of evildive... but, when you least expect it ;-) [19:16] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] The-Croupier, what the subgenius thing? [19:16] yep [19:16] 2.6.26-2-1337-0M6-P47CH3D-WHIZ-BANG-POW [19:16] it's the discordian calendar [19:16] look on wiki [19:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar [19:19] already half through it [19:19] dive: damn there is sooooo much in religions i didnt know [19:19] antiwire, damn that's actually a good local version [19:19] lol [19:19] Action: The-Croupier feels really uneducated atm :( [19:20] from fortune: If you're happy, you're successful. [19:20] antiwire, my best effort was -custom ;p [19:20] dive: c'mon, get creative. [19:21] i just end up sticking either my initials or the initials of the box's hostname [19:21] like, -SRV3 or -AP1 [19:22] there is a ddate in linux apparently [19:22] yep [19:22] Today is Boomtime, the 59th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 [19:22] Myhro (i=solidao@187.44.12.110) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Today is Boomtime, the 59th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 [19:22] dive: ;) yep looks like it ;) damn [19:22] there's an echo in linux too [19:23] Boomtime? everyone break out their BoomSticks [19:23] i hope there is no bomb coming up this way [19:23] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] Pig_Pen: No way, you primitive screwhead. [19:23] actually when you run ddate for the first time it sets in motion a counter with a timebomb [19:24] where i can find khex thingie.. [19:24] damn..:( [19:24] khexedit [19:24] you seen Army of Darkness [19:24] might not be included by default I forget [19:24] let me look [19:24] dive: yep been looking for a while [19:24] kdeutils, if I remember correctly [19:25] yeap [19:25] Pig_Pen: repeatedly. heh [19:25] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] oh man.. slashdot on how to pwn the lawfirm who is handling TPB vs RIAA case :P [19:27] firedix (n=firedix@201.254.116.40) joined ##slackware. [19:27] lol [19:27] i wish like hell the riaa mpaa would crawl in a hole and die already [19:27] just pay them a nickle a day, every day, and lablel is "Contribution to the fine of TPB" [19:29] it is so sweet.. a DDoS with tiny banktransferes :P [19:29] hehe [19:29] i especially love the part about it costing them 2SEK for every transfere above 1000 a month [19:29] Myhro (i=solidao@187.44.12.110) left irc: [19:29] that would be the way to do it, just send them a nickel a day, because i sure as hell am not doing without food and shelter to pay off some fine to a faceles greedy corp [19:29] dive: kdeutils..nope :( maybe im thinking too much of tomorrow [19:29] hmm which kde do you have? [19:29] the smallest amount i can transfere without fee is ~.5USD, but it costs them ~.36USD to reseve them :-D [19:30] lol [19:30] you mean .05? or .5? [19:30] antiwire: .05 yes [19:30] .5 is 50cents not 5 [19:30] The-Croupier: it's called okteta in kde4, just in case :) [19:30] i wouldn't give those bastards 50 cents ;) [19:30] dive ..none [19:30] i have xfce [19:30] :( [19:31] yes, net result it that it is going to cost them ~.31USD every time [19:31] hahaha [19:31] and since i will set up my homebank to do it daily, and tell all my freinds to do the same, we will soon surpass the 1000 transferes a month [19:32] you guys should do the same [19:32] DDoS their asses off :P [19:32] this is going towards the fine that TPB has to deal with? [19:32] it would be nice if we could hit them with 100K transferes a day :P [19:32] Man, that's a good way to spend $10 / mo [19:33] The-Croupier, you might have to make do with shed [19:33] need to make a slackbuild for it if there isn't one [19:33] antiwire: yes.. lets make sure that it costs them 100M SEK to reseve the 30M SEK they were after :P [19:33] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-163.lijbrandt.net) left irc: "never push the red button... never... oops..." [19:35] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] antiwire: i think it is doubble fun: show them that 30M SEK *could* have been raised... but that it costs a heck of a lot more than that to fsck with the collective body of people who are fed up with the "Interlectual Property" system as it has become perverted and out of proportions over the last two decades [19:35] dive: i just wanted something with a gui..cos otherwise i already downloaded and installed hexedit [19:35] ah ok [19:35] I haven't found one with a decent gui yet [19:36] but I haven't looked too much [19:36] The-Croupier: gvim? [19:37] khexedit was nice..but i cannot find it anywhere [19:37] macavity: already have that [19:37] The-Croupier: i belive it has a buid in hexeditor [19:37] ;) [19:37] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:37] macavity: does it? [19:37] damn [19:37] The-Croupier: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Improved_Hex_editing [19:38] wtf is gtk#? [19:38] https://gna.org/projects/bless/ [19:38] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:39] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:40] http://wxhexeditor.sourceforge.net/ [19:40] another alpha [19:41] Hi Rat409. How are you? [19:42] good,thanks.,you? [19:43] wasnt there a kde/qt hex editor around? [19:43] Rat409: doing very well, thanks. :) [19:43] Pig_Pen: even the font in sakura is perfect without customizing. [19:44] yeah, i have not seen a better x windows terminal [19:44] Pig_Pen: Me either now that I've seen this one. :) [19:44] Now if I could just get zsh's themeing working, I'd be good. [19:45] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [19:46] i have not used zsh much at all [19:46] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Pig_Pen: I've used it about a week, and some of the themes don't work. [19:47] instead of the theme, I get: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13633 [19:48] i never figured a shell could have a theme [19:48] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] maybe something like a macro for long commands that you would use many times [19:49] zsh does. Basically what the themes are is different prompts, and some with colored text, background, etc. [19:49] ah i see [19:49] i seen something you might like listed at freshmeat just about a hour ago, let me find it again [19:50] http://freshmeat.net/projects/vshnu [19:51] Oh that looks really cool. Thanks. [19:51] i am going to try it, i like a nicely highlighted x terminal & console [19:52] Pig_Pen: that looks awsome [19:52] I just downloaded it, I'll be trying it too. :) [19:52] do we make for it ro slackbild [19:52] bbiab [19:52] for bash theres bashish,bashstyle-ng [19:52] sorry guys.. my spelling is gone wrong nearly time for sleep [19:53] i cannot deal with this qt4 its so mean.. ill have to finishe tomorrow [19:53] lol no doubt [19:57] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [19:58] hey [19:58] hello all slackers :) [19:58] hi macman [19:58] im thinking of trying slackware in virtualbox .. can you point me to the smallest iso i can use to install slackware ? [19:58] hi [19:58] im on ubuntu btw [19:58] so i have linux knowledge [19:58] bashish built for me no problems, that vishnu not i guess slack's perl does not like it [19:59] well if you want to try slackware then do an full install [19:59] macman_: the dvd is easiest [19:59] thats d1 d2 d3 [19:59] macman_: get CD images 1-3 or the single DVD image [19:59] the dvd would be best [19:59] http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [19:59] huh [20:00] i just want 1 dvd/cd [20:00] how big is it antiwire ? [20:00] forget it [20:00] do whatever you want [20:00] ok ok [20:00] so what should i do antiwire ? [20:00] then download the dvd [20:00] and that is the torrent that antiwire posted right ? [20:01] if you don't do an full install then you can't really try and feel slackware for real [20:01] Lectus (n=lectus@189.105.79.158) joined ##slackware. [20:01] http://www.slackware.com/torrents/slackware-12.2-install-dvd.torrent [20:01] d4vidc (n=d@74-209-6-39.dsl.elltel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:03] macman_: if you a system without X and KDE just get CD1. If you want X get CD1-2. if you want X and KDE get CD1-3. [20:03] antiwire: i just want gnome [20:03] save the bandwidth [20:03] ... [20:03] ... [20:03] noobfarmed. [20:04] macman_: you are aware that Slackware does not have gnome and you will need to install it from some thirdparty? [20:04] you probably do want KDE, at least its libraries and a few of its apps, even if you don't want to run it as your main UI [20:04] aw ok i didn't do that [20:04] err know that [20:04] im good with kde dosen't matter [20:04] then you want CD1-3 or the DVD [20:04] ok [20:05] do don't get the dvd antiwire just get cd1-3 ? [20:05] you know, I wish there was a binary-only DVD that didn't include the sources. People want the DVD because it's easier to deal with, but 99% of people won't ever even look at the sources that take up half the DVD size [20:05] Urchlay: which kde libs are useful? and needed even if you run another UI? [20:05] Urchlay: i don't bother - just install cd 1 and lftp the rest [20:05] or rsync [20:05] macman_: either way you will end up with a full install but the DVD contains everything including sources [20:05] aw ok [20:05] 3.9gb eh [20:06] sheesh [20:06] yeah, pretty small [20:06] macman_: look, no one is forcing you into this. If you don't like it then leave it alone. [20:06] antiwire: its all good .. i want to try slack [20:06] cmk_zzz: mainly kdebase and kdelibs. Only useful if you actually run any KDE apps on your non-KDE desktop (e.g. lots of people like k3b for burning CDs) [20:06] drijen: yea that is very nice size .. im glad it has a lot of people seeding it [20:07] 3.8GB is nothing [20:07] debian comes on 4 dvds if you want all of it [20:07] yea i normally do net installs Pig_Pen [20:07] course, my installs come in at jsut under 1GB [20:07] < rworkman> spook: PEBKAC. I posted my gpg passphrase in my ChangeLog. Long story. [20:07] urchlay: ah, ok, fair enough, so there are no dependencies on kde{libs,apps} [20:07] macman_: did you also know that your Ubuntu doesn't come with a toolchain for building anything by default and you need to download all that stuff? Did you know that the Slackware DVD comes with everything you need to start working with software? [20:08] macman_ remeber that slackware is different so you need allot of time to realy try it out [20:08] macman_: so you can whine about the size but bare in mind that you're Ubuntu default install is crippled until you start downloading packages. [20:08] never had a os with everything on it [20:08] thanks antiwire [20:08] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [20:09] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] sure you have [20:10] ubuntu comes with everything you didn't know you needed, and nothing you did! [20:10] :D [20:10] Action: nille been trying xz compression today and i like it allot [20:10] macman_: Having all installed simplifies a lot of stuff. Things are just there when you need them. In other distros I always have to hunt down which *-devel package is needed to compile certain things and other distros doesn't even ship all documentation which is quite stupid imho [20:11] not having man pages is a sin. [20:11] seriously [20:11] there's distros without manpages? [20:11] they take up mebbe 5MB, yet they cut them out [20:11] yeah lots [20:11] lol what? [20:11] yea .. it must be easy when you have to go to install a package its there [20:11] yeah i would be crippled without man pages [20:11] once again what is the package manager for slackware [20:11] pkgtool [20:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] macman_: go read www.slackbook.org please [20:12] macman_: have you seen slackbook? [20:12] archlinux for example, doesn't ship with any documentation if i remember correctly [20:12] i tried to like arch linux [20:12] drijen: ok amazon10x no .. im just getting knowledge right now .. im going to the website right now [20:12] I have to say that the ArchWiki quite nice though [20:12] archlinux doesn't ship anything :p [20:12] macman_: slackbook will tell you everything you need. http://slackbook.org/html/package-management.html [20:12] but its programmed by 3 year olds - nothing ever gets fixed [20:12] I like a lot of things about arch linux, but can't stand rolling upgrades and the thing that really put me of was the documentation thing [20:13] yeah, drijen, i haven't used archlinux, but i've gotten the impression that it's a distro hacked together by a bunch of teenagers [20:13] amazon10x: crux fork, really - i really wanted to like it [20:13] Vi^3PirePengy (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] anyone here use zenwalk on $machine? [20:14] archlinux is like always running unstable current [20:14] arch is fun [20:14] emphasis on unstable [20:14] current on slack you mean? [20:14] no [20:14] arch is just.....crazy [20:15] drijen: arch uses latest Xorg which does pluggable modules [20:15] current on slack is more stable than most stable distros so not like slack [20:15] Dominian: so? [20:15] ie: no mouse/keyboard definitions in xorg.conf [20:15] so yea .. once i get the feel for slackware i might convert to it fully .. ubuntu is to windows like [20:15] Dominian: doesn't make it less broken garbage [20:15] its all handled by hal [20:15] drijen: true, but that's still cool :P [20:15] really strange there aren't that many gui hex editors [20:15] i like ubuntu but its way to windows feel [20:15] Dominian: so is a ferrari with a truck engine [20:16] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] ubuntu is to unstable IMHO [20:16] macman_: apt-get install enlightenment [20:16] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] fixed. [20:16] I wouldn't say unstable, but its definitely geared toward a more "noob"ish crowd [20:16] The-Croupier, look like either khexedit or curses [20:16] drijen: why would i do that ? [20:16] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [20:16] morning MLanden [20:16] but any distro that has as many "forks" as ubuntu does is crazy [20:16] shuttleworth thinks he is powerful because he has an army of noobs following him evangeling ubuntu :D [20:16] a lot of the "user"-friendly stuff is seriosly unstable [20:17] you were complainnig about it being too windows like [20:17] evenin',dive [20:17] Satan Ubuntu, Christian Ubuntu, "I'm a freakin' Retard" Ubuntu... [20:17] Ubuntu666? [20:17] drijen: Satan an d Christian are real editions of Ubuntu believe it or not [20:17] i know [20:17] Ubuntard [20:17] doh [20:17] that was meant for dive [20:17] lol [20:17] *FAIL* [20:17] you owe me beer. [20:17] oh well [20:17] *HEADDESK* [20:18] misusing my nick like that [20:18] I'm allowed a little leeway damn it [20:18] I'll noobfarm you all! DO NOT TEST ME! :) [20:18] of course - we owe you that for noobfarm :> [20:18] hahaha would that be so bad [20:18] http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Laundry-of-the-New-Millennium.aspx [20:18] Action: drijen pushes Dominian [20:19] Hrm.. think about it.. noobfarm is now a noun, adjective, adverb... [20:19] < acidchild> put in a peice of metal and poop it comes out :D [20:19] i noobfarm, you noobfarm, we have been had noobfarmed ;) [20:20] BP{k}: \o/ [20:20] drijen: reading [20:20] BP{k}: all your quotes are belong to us [20:20] some set up us the noobfarm! [20:20] wow this thing is downloading fast [20:20] Action: drijen bonks Dominian with an IBM Model M [20:20] QUICK, Get his source! [20:21] macman_: it's because all of our machines are so fast :P [20:21] damn it! [20:21] lol [20:21] macman_: thepiratebay runs on slamd64 :p [20:21] :P [20:21] at least you could hit me with something decent... like... an Altair [20:21] WHAT [20:21] drijen: really? [20:21] BP{k}: you around? [20:21] amazon10x: rly [20:21] heh [20:21] drijen, jesus true? [20:21] amazon10x: yes.. really [20:21] BP{k}: PM? [20:21] Dive si [20:21] Dominian: you just DID NOT sully the name of an IBM model M [20:21] thepiratebay runs on slamd64 on 90% of their stuff.. the rest is Slackware [20:21] nice [20:21] drijen: yes.. I did [20:21] I think I would find a sink and handwash [20:21] i have newfound respect for them [20:22] ans smell a bit [20:22] Dominian: I REVOKE YOUR GEEK CARD [20:22] Dominian: *nice* [20:22] ha! [20:22] s/ans/and [20:22] I'm a member for life boyee! [20:22] Action: drijen trashes the tenure [20:22] amazon10x they used slackware before slamd64 [20:22] is this chan alive a lot for support ? [20:22] macman_: don't talk to ananke and you'll be ok [20:22] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: [20:23] btw anyone else found 'could not to cache server' with piratebay today? [20:23] lol [20:23] 'could not connect' even [20:23] and definatly don't talk to cpunches [20:23] ever. [20:23] is everyone mostly on kde or there own wm of choice ? [20:24] KDE4 here [20:24] i'm on kde [20:24] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] i use KDE4 [20:24] fluxbox [20:24] macman_, screen ;) [20:24] thinking about checking out one of the *boxes [20:24] *box, backed by kde4 [20:24] lol nice dive [20:24] good enough [20:24] dive: you using lynx an links ?/ [20:24] i use various window managers including kde, depends on what i am doing and what mood i am in [20:24] thepiratebay works for me today but i'm also in sweden [20:24] elinks and links -g [20:24] kde4 [20:24] nille, maybe virgin have blocked it [20:25] heh elinks [20:25] elinks > * [20:25] lies [20:25] i hate elinks [20:25] dive try an proxy to find out [20:25] hmm [20:25] elinks then i rather use lynx [20:26] drijen: I say we do a systems analysis and design on that article.. then charge that company 28million dollars to implement it ;) [20:26] Dominian: YES. [20:26] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:26] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:26] Dominian: i get the brunette though [20:26] drijen: taht design had bad news written on it from the start [20:26] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-181-66.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] why are you guys using lynx elinks .. no pictures nothing .. how do you watch youtube etc .. [20:27] macman_: cybernetic implants [20:27] lol [20:27] true story [20:27] macman_: youtube? [20:27] macman sometimes i'm not in x or on a server [20:27] cmk_zzz: yea .. elinks and lynx links you can't see gui such as youtube [20:27] only thing you need flash for, is watching streaming porn [20:28] and you can wget that... [20:28] haha [20:29] macman_: I am sure there is a ascii plugin for that kind of things:) [20:29] wow [20:29] macman_, theres a js script for elinks to download and watch youtube vids in mplayer [20:29] mplayer -vo svga [20:29] ascii porn and video [20:29] score [20:29] nope framebuffer [20:29] drijen wins again, and ##slackware takes a right turn into depravity [20:29] \o/ [20:30] ok with proxy: [20:30] Empty server or forwarder response. [20:30] The connection has been closed but Privoxy didn't receive any data. [20:30] Pig_Pen: So vshnu didn't build? [20:30] wtf? [20:30] Hey dive. How are you? [20:31] Evenin',firebird619...How're you doin? I'm fine..:D [20:31] hi firebird619 - fine mate and you? [20:31] MLanden: doing great, thanks. :) [20:31] dive so you can't DL your daily porn [20:31] i did not try hard enough, i tried perl Makefile.pl and it kicked me back an error, i guess i could have found the problem if i searched for it firebird619 [20:31] dive: doing great, thanks. :) [20:31] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.36.169) joined ##slackware. [20:31] hi nachox [20:31] Pig_Pen: Well, I'll try now and see what I get. was afk for a litle while. [20:31] hi firebird619 [20:31] hey nille [20:32] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:32] that bashish someone mentioned looks better, builds without a problem too [20:32] Will that only work with bash though? I'll check it out. [20:32] bashish? [20:32] wassat? [20:32] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] dive: google it man. :P [20:32] just kidding [20:32] ya [20:33] true enough, bashish only works with bash, vishnu looks like it works with more than a bash shell [20:33] dive: bashish.sourceforge.net [20:33] dive: http://tinyurl.com/o8j922 [20:33] yeah reading it now [20:33] Ugh, qt4's still churning away. [20:33] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=nacho@190.51.36.169: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: gnutls, xpdf | Everyone bow down to the new txz format!! [20:33] dive: Where can I find this js-script for elinks/youtube? sounds great to me [20:33] Hello Dominian, how are you? [20:33] txz? [20:34] lol [20:34] another new one? [20:34] lol, Everyone bow down to the new txz format!! [20:34] Action: dive faints [20:34] Hi nachox. How are you? [20:34] txz, its so Pat can compress packages the size of texas and still fit em in a CD [20:34] lol [20:34] Pig_Pen, yeah but it takes an hour to decomp [20:34] that'd be a large package. [20:34] firebird619, fine, sleepy [20:34] credo (n=36chambe@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [20:35] naw, Pat says they decompres about as fast as a tgz [20:35] hmm [20:35] well when they are here, they are here. I'm ready [20:35] but is slackpkg? [20:35] they are in -current already [20:35] and yes.. slackpkg was updated to handle the new extensions [20:36] we're ready them [20:36] Action: dive bends over [20:36] why are you not bowing down? :P [20:36] lol [20:36] nachox, I was doing something like that [20:36] haha [20:36] firebird619: mine seems to be finished [20:36] and installed lol [20:36] at least I thought it was [20:36] The-Croupier: :( [20:36] im assuming when my torrent finishes downloading you want me to seed ? [20:36] Action: nille bows [20:36] it's not like they're gonna kill tgz [20:36] The-Croupier: I don't think mine will be done for a while. [20:36] nah, but eventually it will completely move over [20:37] the txz stuff DOES save a lot of space [20:37] not when I've released my txz2tgz script on the world [20:37] say i havce to reinstall this and i want to seed the torrent/slackware iso .. there a way i can save it to an external and seed later ? [20:37] firebird619: you never know [20:37] i'll now kick evey user who joins this channel and doesnt do the new package format honor :P [20:37] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] dive, keep your scripts to yourself >.> [20:37] :P [20:37] its nearly 4am here 3hours sleep to go [20:37] Well dive you might as well leave right now then. :P [20:37] dive: you mean like: http://github.com/michielvw/tgz2txz/tree/master [20:37] getting some cola..no more coffee for me..had enough for tonight [20:38] BP{k}, shup [20:38] that bastard [20:38] The-Croupier: haha, I'm drinking a cola right now. [20:38] He's already brown nosing! [20:38] mine is 13373R [20:38] mine is already there. :P [20:38] dive: is that even a word, or is that something you've released on the world too. [20:38] BP{k}, 01:37 < dive> not when I've released my txz2tgz script on the world [20:38] yours is the reverse [20:38] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:39] dive: you mean converting from txz to tgz? [20:39] or tgz to txz? [20:39] yes [20:39] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [20:39] txz2 [20:39] haha [20:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] dive: meh. fair enough. [20:39] btw, it's in the tar info page, not the man page... -J [20:40] I will deprecate this # one day [20:40] get you all using console [20:40] >.> [20:40] BP{k}: Funny thought.. tukanni project has been working on that lzma stuff for ages [20:40] who let this guy in? [20:40] BP{k}: in fact their pkgtools HAD teh support years ago :) [20:40] what guy? [20:40] Dominian: yeah :) [20:40] wouldn't that just be "xzcat file.txz | gzip -c > file.tgz"? no need for a fancy script surely... [20:40] BP{k}: then again they were helping to develop lzma hehe [20:41] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:41] how about pyqt..does that take alot of time..or shall i do that today [20:41] Urchlay, dammit that's my script [20:41] BP{k}: hrm.. who was it in here that was connected to Tukaani... [20:41] :) [20:41] lahrzu [20:41] Dominian: uhm no idea, I could search my logs if you really want to know [20:41] Action: thrice` wins [20:41] thrice`: yep that's it [20:42] wonder what happened tot him [20:42] I remember testing his slamd64 port of tukaani's pkgtools [20:42] Pig_Pen: vshnu didn't build here either, missing the Term::Screen module. [20:42] wow his nick even sounds like a compression format [20:42] lol [20:42] The-Croupier: that doesn't take long, at least it didn't for me. [20:42] ha.. in fact...my package I built for them ON slamd64 is still on their site :) [20:43] firebird619: perl -MCPAN -e 'install Term::Screen' ...would be the standard way to install a perl module [20:43] Urchlay: Ah ok, didn't know that, Thanks. [20:43] or just do it from the cpan command prompt [20:43] cpan [20:43] install Term::Screen [20:43] cpan ++ [20:43] firebird619: unless you want to get fancy and make a proper slackware package out of it [20:44] rworkman, cpan -i Term::Screen [20:44] Action: Dominian slaps ananke [20:44] OF COURSE he would have something even easier [20:44] Dominian: hey, when did the cpan command come into existence? It wasn't around back when I was learning perl stuff, could have saved myself lots of typing over the years [20:44] doh, 'or:' got expanded to 'rworkman' [20:44] heh [20:44] ananke: lol [20:44] Urchlay: its been around a while.. [20:45] so cpan -i Term::Screen? [20:45] yep [20:45] k, thanks. [20:45] Hello all. Hey anyone know if the "...python-1.patch" at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/kde/kdebindings.html is to get KDE-3.5.10 to build with 2.6 python. Seems 2.6 breaks building kde on my Old_Fogie --unstable. [20:45] what I get for not buying a new o'reilly perl book every year or so, I guess [20:45] Hi Old_Fogie. How goes it? [20:45] that's even easier.. however.. for one module that works, but I like using the cpan command prompt.. because you can chain plugins [20:45] yeah to think of all those damn spamassassin deps I used to download before I knew about cpan.. [20:45] firebird619, good n you [20:45] ananke, how did it go with the tires? did you buy them? [20:45] Old_Fogie: doing very well, thank you. [20:45] "perl -MCPAN -e shell" *is* the cpan command prompt, just takes longer to type [20:45] nachox: Yeah he has a 6inch lift with gigantic 42" rims now [20:45] nachox : still debating. i could spend $19 and run on those junky ones for a few more months [20:46] Evenin',Old_Fogie [20:46] MLanden, hello hello [20:46] my current tires are probably the worst ones out there. i can't believe honda has used them [20:46] ananke, take a risk, life is not fun without it [20:46] Old_Fogie: are you stuck on repeate? hello hello. :P [20:46] Old_Fogie: greetings [20:46] s/repeate/repeat [20:46] Yeah I just can't seem to figure out how these other linux distro's get kde 3.5.10 to build on a python 2.6 box [20:47] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-173-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] firebird619, haha <--again :) :) [20:47] :D [20:47] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:47] kde needs python for building? [20:47] Urchlay, for the kdebindings yes [20:47] and by the looks of the filelist diff of a 2.5 python vs 2.6 python it's a lot of files I'm not building [20:47] nachox : it's not that the current tires are dangerous. one of them has a slow leak, and i was going to be replacing them this year anyway [20:48] kde still builds,,but alot of stuff missing heh [20:48] does it search for /usr/bin/python or a specific version? (/usr/bin/python2.5) [20:48] let me check [20:48] ananke, fixing it, it's not really broken beyond repair [20:48] one of the few things I know about python is that multiple versions can live side by side on the same box... or anyway that's how it's supposed to be [20:49] so pyqt3 and pyqt4 is alright to install... [20:49] http://pastebin.com/m47a03478 [20:49] taht's the ./configure log [20:49] ah, it does try specific versions [20:50] of kde with a 2.6 python onboard (from --current) ; which the 2.6 does work, all my gnome everything..buids, just kde 3.5.10 dont [20:50] so every app I got that ldd's to python works (haway!) ..except kde, heh [20:50] it might be as dumb as editing configure.in and adding python2.6 to the list, then re-run autogen.sh [20:50] I just dont see how other distro's get theirs to work [20:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] Old_Fogie: looks like gentoo's got a patch: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239233 [20:51] KDE_CHECK_PYTHON_INTERN("2.6", [20:52] i thought Old_Fogie was a gnome user not a kde 3 user [20:52] that would be it [20:52] superGear, I am, but there's alot of kde "apps" I love tho [20:52] 1.4gb of 3.9gb [20:52] actually a bunch of patches for specific apps, that probably all do the same thing like dive said: http://forum.soft32.com/linux/gentoo-dev-dev-lang-python-unmask-ftopict478081.html [20:52] very nice [20:52] dive, what is that line you pasted there from? [20:52] I don't like kde 3.x [20:52] the patch [20:53] i do like kde 4.x tho [20:53] oh heh :) [20:53] good evenin' slackers [20:53] evenin [20:53] howdy [20:53] Evenin', slackmagic [20:54] Hey slackmagic. How are you? [20:54] Old_Fogie, looks like a time download and applying patches and starting again [20:54] dive, yea I'll say [20:54] looks like a huge thunderstorm is heading this way; definitely can't complain about rainfall in texas, they're very rare as is [20:54] debian's got a few too http://patch-tracking.debian.net/package/kdebindings/4:4.2.2-3 [20:54] gah wrong one [20:55] firebird619: great, how's your fluxbox doing so far? [20:55] Old_Fogie, no much about khexedit offhand? Whether is depends on kdelibs or will be easy to build standalone? [20:56] guys i got another question [20:56] do you guys auto parition or do you all make individual paritions ie.. /home /root /boot etc .. ? [20:56] wow that rymed [20:56] slackmagic: doing great. [20:56] macman_: generally I like /home as a separate partition, so I can reinstall the OS without disturbing my data [20:57] macman_, I made /home on laptop, on desktop made several partitions for storage (2 drives though) [20:57] slackmagic: Still sort of going through the themes, etc. [20:57] never seen slack auto-partition though o0 [20:57] firebird619: what's it look like so far? [20:58] slackmagic: I got conky going nice, and adesklets for weather. [20:58] /boot used to have to be a separate partition on large drives due to silly restrictions in BIOSes (all cylinders in the partition had to be less than 1024), I tend to still do it that way out of habit, no idea if it's actually necessary on anything modern though [20:58] slackmagic: looking nice, plain yet, but nice. [20:58] dive, try "objdump -p /usr/bin/khexedit |grep NEEDED" <--- that'll give ya what you're looking fo [20:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleeptime" [20:58] Old_Fogie, ah good idea [20:58] slackmagic: chopp's already requested a screenshot when I'm finished. [20:58] I wonder if I could have python 2.5 and 2.6 on same box, hmmm [20:58] firebird619: you already know I'm on that very same list correct? :P [20:59] slackmagic: yup, sure do. [20:59] The screenshot will be released like slackware is released, when it's ready. [20:59] firebird619: understood [20:59] :) [20:59] screenshot of what? [20:59] my flux desktop [21:00] sheldon ~oRdV51WRrX"F[NN]E9"`b'S17-->k1; [21:00] ah [21:00] wth was that [21:00] Old_Fogie: python's supposed to be designed to allow that, but in practice I dunno how difficult it is [21:00] what was that? [21:00] that was you [21:00] haha, i don't even know [21:00] hahaha [21:00] his root password! [21:00] you did that [21:00] yeah, i saw that i did it [21:00] i guess i pasted whatever was in the middle-click clipboard [21:00] amazon10x: better change your password now, or you'll get hacked. :P [21:01] Urchlay, I wonder if, when running "./configure..." I use "program-prefix" or "program-suffix" and maybe have it also go to prefix=/opt [21:01] oh shoot [21:01] you're right [21:01] that is my password [21:01] haha [21:01] hahahaha [21:01] making new one... [21:01] be careful, you never know what you'll paste into. [21:01] Old_Fogie, install 2.6 somewhere and point ./configure at it? [21:02] Old_Fogie: program-prefix/suffix isn't for that... it's for renaming the binaries. Like if you're building a program that normally installs as "/usr/bin/foo", and you use --program-prefix=bar, you end up with /usr/bin/barfoo [21:02] dive, well I'm thinking of keeping the 2.6 in /usr/lib and move the old, 2.5 to some other [21:02] --python-dir or some such?> [21:02] ah [21:02] fixed. you all can stop trying to hax me now [21:02] Urchlay, yea that's why I was thinking to do so I had no chance of error on others [21:02] amazon10x: dang [21:03] i told keepassx to autotype, and i accidentally had it on my terminal instead of my browser, haha [21:03] hmmm. It looks like all the include + lib stuff that comes with python, is in /usr/include/python2.5 and /usr/lib/python2.5 on my system [21:03] yea two places [21:04] dunno with python [21:04] I did have 2 versions of perl for a while [21:04] your only conflict would be the stuff in /usr/bin (the python executable itself is /usr/bin/python2.5, with a symlink to python, but there are a couple other binaries "idle", "pydoc", that I dunno what they're for) [21:04] just point ./configure at the one I needed [21:05] Yeah I'll rewrite the python 2.5 go to /opt and go from there, see what happends [21:05] yay, my sd-usb card shipped [21:05] good luck,Old_Fogie [21:05] ok thanks Urchlay, dive [21:05] MLanden, :D [21:05] only way to learn, is to try it out [21:05] so long as you don't have a bunch of scripts that start with #!/usr/bin/python2.5 you should be OK [21:05] :) [21:05] yep [21:05] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] elderK (n=zk@122-57-247-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [21:05] yeah, it's a vm, if it all breaks, it's ok, I just hit reset :) [21:06] it's my --unstable branch :) [21:06] firebird619: still working on conky?? :) [21:07] we want sshots [21:07] I'm surprised, I didnt think kde really hard coded version that much tho [21:07] Old_Fogie, sounds more like they didn't think ahead far enough to think that py 2.6 would be out [21:08] yea or some gnome dev slipped into the kde team in the dead of night [21:08] lol [21:08] hax [21:08] how can you be surprised? when we live in a world full of idiots [21:08] upgrades can confuse users you know :) [21:08] a mystery in every box [21:08] thrice`: Nah, I have it fairly decent now, using adesklets for weather now. [21:09] upgradepkg gsabatage [21:09] ah, ok. was going to inspire you with mine ;) [21:09] thrice`: can I see your's anyway? :) [21:09] dive i see you run gnome :p [21:09] firebird619: that didn't sound good. ;) [21:10] chopp: Oh you sick pervert. :P [21:10] we want screenies [21:10] er not of that [21:10] hahaha [21:10] zlinux_ (n=zlinux@79.172.139.20) left irc: Connection timed out [21:11] slackboy firebird619 has been treating me bad today. [21:11] firebird619 no need to be ashamed allot of people have cam sex these days [21:11] Action: dive wonders if he still has any leet fluxbox settings on other box [21:11] nille: hahaha, not this bird. :P [21:11] chopp: slackboy can't save you now. :) [21:12] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [21:12] ooh your a bird and i thought it was gay [21:12] haha, oh...my...gosh [21:12] firebird619: sure: http://omploader.org/vMW52cg [21:13] thrice`: ok, thanks. [21:13] that was an awkward few minutes. :P [21:14] yeah he doesn't last to long [21:14] ha ha [21:14] lol [21:15] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:15] imagine that happening in #ubuntu, we'd of all been kicked. [21:15] any idea why thunar looks like this in flux? http://imagebin.org/48726 [21:15] well there all to tighten up [21:15] some would fear what is not understood...:D [21:16] s/some/most/ [21:16] hey macavity. How are you? [21:16] true, macavity [21:16] firebird619: is that that one scriopt showing your drives dosen't it start with a C ? [21:16] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] firebird619: you need to set a gtk theme either manually or thru running either xfce-mcs-manager or gnome-settings-daemon for global gtk themes . [21:17] Rat409: Ah, ok, thanks. [21:17] superGear (i=1000@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:17] what is that cc1plus under Highest CPU. never heard of it. [21:17] elderK (n=zk@122-57-247-10.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: [21:18] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.67.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:19] Rat409: Well, I don't have gnome, and it says command not found for xfce-mcs-manager. I have xfce 4.6.1 installed, is the name different? [21:20] chopp: When did I treat you bad? [21:20] umm 4.6 may have changed [21:20] who needs noobfarm when all real action is right here :) [21:20] haha [21:20] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-0-111.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] nille: It's a daily, LIVE, noobfarm. [21:20] firebird619: compiling something? [21:20] thrice`: qt4 yeah. [21:20] firebird619 true [21:21] thrice`: Is that what that is then? [21:21] zlinux (n=zlinux@79.172.170.80) joined ##slackware. [21:21] that's what the cc command is, of course :) [21:21] thrice`: ah ok, thanks. I didn't know. :) [21:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "mIRC" [21:22] i need to recompile my qt (kdelibs won't compile on the version i got) [21:23] nille: are you trying to compile KDE4 on slackware 12.2? [21:23] firebird619: which version of qt4? [21:24] MLanden: 4.5.1 [21:24] firebird619: looks like xfconfd does the job in 4.6.x [21:24] i already have kde compiled on 12.2 [21:24] firebird619: OK [21:24] KDE 3 or 4? [21:24] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:24] kde4 [21:24] hi everybody ! [21:24] hi paissad [21:24] firebird619: I was only giving you a hard time. You refused to show me your screenshot! :P [21:24] so, just fetch Pats buildscript of Qt in source/ [21:25] edit it and make a new Qt package [21:25] easy as heck :P [21:25] Rat409: that command isn't found either. I did find xfce-settings-manager, it's set for tango icons and the theme is xfce. [21:25] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:25] chopp: I'll show the screenshot, I'm just still tinkering and configuring. :) [21:26] i would like to have some advice from you about creating a server (LAMPP + FTP + SVN) i purchased a PC, and i'm formatting ...... what do you advice me knowing that i have 1 disk of 500Gb (i would like to install slack and debian) [21:26] well i need to edit them for tgz and i already done it [21:26] firebird619: be careful,that can get quite addicting...:D..lol [21:26] i guess i should make a swap partition , an home partition too ... [21:26] Rat409: You're talking about setting an entire theme, not just icons? [21:26] MLanden: haha, indeed it can. [21:26] what about usr/ opt/ and var ? [21:27] i'm a beginner :) [21:27] paissad: What's the machine for? [21:27] macavity i also installed xz and upgraded tar [21:27] firebird619: yes [21:27] MLanden: tinkering and configuring is a good addiction though, imo, there could be alot worse. [21:27] cmk_zzz, just for making a server httpd, mysql , svn and ftp, dns server etc .... [21:28] Rat409: Ok, I'll have to download one then. :P [21:28] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] looks like its in xfce-mcs-plugins. [21:28] firebird619: very true [21:28] advice ? [21:28] paissad i add swap later as an file instead so i can change the size easy [21:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:29] nille, ok i see, i will do so , i've seen people doing so, it seems good ,thanks [21:29] fluxbox controls panel/title-bar ; but rest will use the theme [21:29] and what about partitionning ? [21:29] paissad: Then you might wanna put /var on a separate partition. [21:30] and menu of course. [21:30] cmk_zzz, what about the size of /var partition ? .... [21:30] paissad the partitioning is a question of how you will use setup. [21:30] Rat409: Isn't xfce a gtk theme, why isn't that working for it then? FF is themed with xfce theme in flux, except the window decoration, that's flux. [21:31] Jean (n=jean@93-36-228-105.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:31] nille, just for server , i don't play games and things like that :) [21:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] This'll open a hornets nest, but recommend any good icon themes? [21:31] firebird619, using xfce-mcs-manager is a nice quick fix ( I still use it ) but if you're willing to either build gnome-color-chooser, or learn to hand edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file , well then you dont need xfce-mcs-manager. [21:32] firebird619: yes xfce uses gtk2 themes afaik [21:32] paissad: This is very difficult to say. This completely depends on the usage of the server. /var contains all variable files, so if you have big databases, a lot of logging etc you'll need more, if you don't have much data you can use less. [21:32] Rat409: Then thunar should have worked right? [21:32] cmk_zzz, i see [21:32] Old_Fogie: xfce-mcs-manager didn't work in 4.6 [21:32] paissad: If you want to be flexible, install lvm. That makes it easy to extend the partitions, add disks, etc later on. [21:33] oh your in --current? oh hmmm [21:33] Old_Fogie: No, 4.6.1 rworkman's xfce package [21:33] paissad 'server' is a rather wide conception [21:33] I'm on 12.2 [21:33] :) [21:33] Old_Fogie: does that work for you? xfce-mcs-manager? [21:34] no i use the newer xfce too, but I have a working .gtkrc-2.0 file [21:34] so I dont need it [21:34] What the problem be? [21:34] I just copied it over from my gnome box and its' done [21:34] Hey rworkman, how are you? [21:34] firebird619: not bad, I suppose. What have you screwed up with my xfce package? ;-) [21:35] rworkman: haha, nothing. I'm in fluxbox and thunar's icons aren't working on flux, they're all the same. [21:35] rworkman: http://imagebin.org/48726 [21:36] Old_Fogie: any chance I could see your .gtkrc file to get an idea? [21:36] I'm curious now. [21:36] :) [21:36] firebird619 it's for presserving memory [21:36] except the problem of partitionnning, ... what would i also take a look for making a good server ? [21:36] it'll make no sense [21:36] it's all weird code stuff firebird619 [21:36] Old_Fogie: ok. I'll google :) [21:36] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/shot.gif [21:36] there ya go [21:36] firebird619: try starting xfsettingsd [21:37] and see if it changes [21:37] got me old flux back [21:37] rworkman: ok [21:37] paissad: How much disk space do you have? [21:37] 500 Mb [21:37] 500 Gb [21:37] sorry [21:37] rworkman: Sweet, that worked. Thank you. [21:37] Yay :) [21:38] rworkman: Do I need to start that each time with flux? [21:38] rworkman to the rescue [21:38] cmk_zzz, 2x500Gb (i want to use the other disk for backup) [21:38] firebird619: yes [21:38] we never know :) [21:38] rworkman: Ok, I can add that to ~/.fluxbox/startup then. [21:38] Action: rworkman changes his nick to SuperDick [21:38] paissad: Ok, so lots of disk space. Is it a proper server or just a normal workstation? [21:38] haha [21:39] http://gnomecc.sourceforge.net/ <-- easiest way to config a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file (a ton of deps tho - most if not all at SBo) [21:39] cmk_zzz, proper server ..... [21:39] rworkman: at least that is better than s/Super/Limp/ :P [21:39] lol [21:39] Old_Fogie: wrong! gtk-chtheme is no deps :> [21:39] dive: orange, seriously, orange? [21:39] macavity: agreed :D [21:39] cmk_zzz, btw, i may use vim for programming ... but nothing else ..... [21:39] paissad: Ok, so have you thought about using RAID1 for the disks? and then store backups offsite? [21:39] thrice`, oh yea ! nice [21:39] firebird619, haha yeah for a few seconds [21:39] it is bright [21:39] wait, I think I have gtk-chtheme installed. [21:40] actually, just using vim ~/.gtkrc-2.0 is easiest :) [21:40] thrice`, :) [21:40] cmk_zzz, no i didn't [21:40] I do, I do have it installed. :) [21:40] rworkman, you screwed up my buildsystem, made me use python 2.6 and now kde 3.5.10 wont build [21:40] Action: Old_Fogie wonders if he'llf all for it :) [21:40] fall [21:40] kidding [21:40] fall fail [21:40] yea [21:40] heh [21:41] Old_Fogie: Was that message meant for me, or were you aiming it for someone who gives a rat's ass? [21:41] ;-) [21:41] I can't believe KDE "gnomed" me like this tho hahah [21:41] haha [21:41] rworkman, :) [21:41] rworkman, yeah kde "gnomed" the kdebindings of 3.5.10 they hard code python rev. [21:41] What won't build now? Just kdebindings? [21:41] ##slackware, home of the rworkman quote of the day. :) [21:41] oh well, I'm trying python in opt [21:41] paissad: For a production server, that is quite a common setup. I'm assuming here that your server supports RAID1 in hardware. 500Gig is a lot of data, what will you fill it up with? [21:42] You don't need kdebindings anyway probably; don't worry about it. [21:42] rworkman, bindings build, but without python stuff. when I diff the filelist of slackware's official pack vs this one with python 2.6 onboard - woh! there is alot missing. [21:42] If that's all you're missing, trust me - don't worry about it: you won't notice, and neither will your users. [21:43] That being said, I take it you're maintainting kde-3.5.10 on -current?? [21:43] rworkman, but a good thing is, all my apps that I do use here, are also from SBo, and I've yet to see a bad app /python issue yet (and I'm using slack --currents python 2.6 script) [21:43] take care,folks...talk with everyone later..:D [21:43] rworkman, no kde3.5.10 on slakc 12.1 with python from --current :) [21:43] later MLanden [21:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-75-249.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:43] oh, yuck. [21:43] rworkman, Old_Fogie --unstable :) [21:44] rworkman, I'm basically building to --current on my own [21:44] Yeah. [21:44] learning how it all goes together [21:44] been a slacker 3/4 years now, time to learn some more [21:44] you have too much time on your hands [21:44] interesting the things you learn when you break shit [21:44] I think this is a great opportunity to point out something though... You're putting your systems through hell regularly; lots of stuff changing; lots of flux. Right? [21:44] cmk_zzz, oh the disk won't be full, there will be a camera storing images into the disk(when there's a move for example) (that's why i wanted to have a huge disk) ..... but the main interest is the web server and svn + ftp [21:44] Right. [21:45] rworkman, yea my stable branch is 12.1 with gnome 2.22 and kde 3.5.10 , very little diff except recompiles to get them to build. [21:45] So how is it that you manage to keep them mostly working, while there are lots of people out there (and in this channel) that can simply turn the computer on and say "boo," and something shits itself. [21:46] firebird619, you have some downloaded flux styles? Does changing the background in the style work now or what? Last time I used flux they change something and background changing didn't work [21:46] rworkman, yeah I mean I'm hitting an issue with kde not supporting 2.6 python, not that I can't run python :) [21:46] cmk_zzz, thanks for all [21:46] goes to show how great slack is, and how a non IT guy like me can learn this stuff :) [21:46] paissad: Well, than. A normal partitioning might be something like: /boot 100M /usr 6G /var 30G /tmp 2G. Again, you might want to consider LVM as it is easier to change your mind later on regarding disk space [21:47] Old_Fogie: kde would support it, just not kdebindings (who cares about these, though?) [21:47] cmk_zzz, yes, i always use LVM [21:47] dive: background changing works for me. I download all the styles from here: tenr.de and used a few from there and changed backgrounds a few times. [21:47] thrice`, do you think I would need the bindings ? I dont even know what they do really [21:47] I'll paste a diff of the file list [21:47] dive: I use fbsetbg. [21:47] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] paissad: Well, then you really don't need to think to much about it. Just use different partitions and allocate as much space you need at the momnet. And them resize them as neede [21:47] Old_Fogie: do you rely on the development software ? [21:48] d [21:48] who can i blame for not making enough noobfarm content? [21:48] Action: edman007 slaps firebird619 [21:48] you are not funny enough [21:48] the noobs [21:48] edman007: I'm sorry. [21:48] :) [21:48] :) [21:48] thrice`, no as far as I go with kde and "developement" is using kdiff3 really :D [21:48] edman007: How's it going? [21:48] oh i forgot ...... what must i do to make that some users having accounts have a virtual disk space from my disk [21:48] thrice`, rworkman http://pastebin.com/m2d610ed9 <--- slackware's package vs a python 2.6 file list diff [21:48] nfs ? [21:48] then, as rworkman said, noone will be able to tell :) [21:49] firebird619, good [21:49] thrice`, yes kde was able to build other fine, even the kdebindings package did build to completion [21:49] i'm going to try and finish up this project :) [21:50] edman007: finals? [21:50] yea...start this week [21:50] and then graduation on sunday [21:50] \o/ [21:50] sweetness [21:50] you got a sick job lined up? [21:50] though the cap&gows was $80 [21:50] amazon10x, no...not really :( [21:50] s/gows/gown/ [21:51] $80, wow [21:51] what'd you study? [21:51] electrical and computer engineering [21:51] asses [21:51] i had a good interview last week, so maybe they will call back... [21:51] i mean that, whatever users may have (windows or linux or mac), i want they can store,download, or work into their allocated disk space ? ....wherever they are too ! [21:51] what country are you in? [21:51] is it possible ? [21:51] thrice`, before I run 'makepkg -l y -c n' in my buildscripts, I run "tree -inapugf -o files-and-perms-$PRGNAM.log" and then have it autodiff. so if file size of diff > 0 , well then I know something went awry, and that method shows it's merit here. man, bash is neat stuff :) [21:52] amazon10x, US [21:52] lots of gov/military jobs...i just have to get one of em to actually hire me [21:53] i guess you live near a base? [21:53] no... [21:53] Old_Fogie: wow, that's fancy :) [21:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [21:54] oh, you said military so i just assumed [21:54] thrice`, yea man, beats running some app some day, and well... nothing happens :) [21:54] well good luck on the job search [21:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat079.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:55] but for me, 90% of the jobs in my field for new grads are making weapons of some type (since its all classified and can't be outsourced at all, and with all the war stuff going on they are swimming in money) [21:55] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:55] thrice`, yea makes it easy on the eye too, the output of tree, then you can open that filelist.log in midnight commander, even over screen, and hit space or arrow key down, and check perms and make sure they look sane too. [21:55] yeah, but a lot of those jobs might disappear if the new administration starts to cut the dod budget [21:55] make peace not war [21:56] make install [21:56] lol [21:56] make beer. [21:56] haha [21:56] beer good [21:56] as long as they keep making beer, I am happy [21:56] amazon10x, eh, i don't know....most of that stuff is financed so far up into the future that they are all 50 year projects, 1 administration does not do anything to them [21:56] go to kitchen and grab a new beer [21:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:57] firebird619, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/shot.gif [21:57] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] ear ear [21:57] greetings and salutations [21:57] wotch andarius :) [21:57] evening andarius [21:57] i wonder if anyone on here has ever gotten a job via irc [21:57] got a little melanoma on that ear [21:57] wotcha BP{k} :) [21:57] better go see a doctor [21:57] salutations dive [21:58] amazon10x, the interview i was at they said they were already had their budget set for the next 50 years [21:58] antiwire, I would but I'm nailed to wall [21:58] lol [21:58] edman007: that's pretty good. you'd probably not have to worry about surprise lay-offs then [21:58] of course, also take into account that they might not be the most unbiased source from which to get that info :P [21:59] hello all. how goes it tonight? [21:59] amazon10x, yea, well there are lots of jobs for me in that sector... [21:59] good night folks :-) [21:59] agentc0re: it goes slightly left but forward all the same [21:59] BP{k}: Oh, i'll be bottling the first batch of beer here soon. :D [21:59] greetings andarius. How are you? [21:59] Good night macavity [21:59] looks like it might be the end of the Tamil Tigers in sri lanka [21:59] agentc0re night it's morning here [21:59] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the [tuna] fish!" [22:00] andarius: Ah, banana like eh? ;) [22:00] nille: I think the sun has pulled a trick on you my friend. [22:00] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.36.169) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] 4am [22:00] 9pm here [22:00] i can hear the birds [22:00] o2 gmc :o [22:00] Mon May 11 22:00:40 EDT 2009 [22:01] bbiab, gonna run test my --unstable :) [22:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:02] nille, you really need to look over your sleeping habits [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:02] Action: edman007 pushes old_fogie over [22:02] say that to BP{k} we got the same timezone [22:02] agentc0re: \o/ [22:03] indeed, you are in my timezone [22:03] but on the wrong side of the worlds [22:03] -s [22:03] 12 hours apart? [22:04] only 10 i think [22:04] Gah, nullboy still is mia. I've been wanting to send him some cool space links.. :/ [22:05] omg, you are right...when was the last time he was online? [22:05] you never know, nullboy might be "gettin' some" from that fine chic that captured his heart [22:05] ..and rejected him [22:05] maybe a shark got him [22:06] nille: lies! [22:06] lol [22:06] nille: your on cest? [22:06] gmt +2 [22:06] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] 4:06 [22:11] poor guy needs to not let rejection get to him, she might have problems and/or issues and is not ready to deal with a relationship [22:11] BP{k} whats your time? [22:11] nille: BST. [22:11] or she's over his limit [22:12] she was a cashier in a hardware store or something like that so she cant be too high class [22:12] BP{k} ooh i thought you where in germany, my bad [22:12] heh [22:13] nille: I will be in August for about 10 days. [22:13] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] nice [22:13] hey chopp man [22:13] anybody uses slapt-get? [22:14] ssshh! dont tell anyone but i use slapt-get [22:14] kiraa: slackpkg is support in 12.2 now, you should switch and use that. [22:14] I read it doesnt handle dependencies! [22:14] Guest81490 (n=aa@210.54.148.202) joined ##slackware. [22:14] neither does slackware [22:14] use another distro [22:14] Action: agentc0re slapt-get's Pig_Pen [22:14] :P [22:14] nope, i only use slapt-get to check for patches (updates) [22:15] Nothing in slackware tracks dependencies [22:15] on my slackware 10.0, I use slackpkg... but I was wondering about slapt-get [22:15] slackware 10.0 box* [22:15] pkgsrc [22:16] slapt-get is not supported here.. anything that "claims" it can track dependencies reliably is full of crap [22:16] pkgsrc is also not supported here [22:16] thats why i only use slapt-get to check for patches and with an authorized slackware mirror only [22:16] so if u want to install, say, OpenOffice... what do u do?? [22:16] manual method. extract, patch and set perms. [22:16] Dominian is not suported here [22:17] who needs support? :) [22:17] does OO come in a single package? [22:17] kiraa: Slackbuilds.org [22:17] kiraa sbopkg [22:17] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] Dominian: lemme check that out [22:17] and what nille said [22:17] my package manager is tar. [22:17] sbopkg is a command line tool that interfaces with slackbuilds.org [22:18] or UI [22:18] kiraa: openoffice.org-3.1.0_en_US-i586-1_rlw.tgz [22:18] <_chess_> bolting on dependency checking to native slackware tools can be problematic [22:18] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/ [22:18] kiraa: ^^ [22:18] hi _chess_ [22:18] _chess_, what about "strap-ons" ? they any good ? :) [22:19] lol [22:19] <_chess_> hello nille :-) [22:19] Action: Old_Fogie hides [22:19] Hi _chess_ How are you? [22:19] <_chess_> Old_Fogie: O_o [22:19] Old_Fogie: You're just itching to get on noobfarm again aren't you? [22:19] haahahah Dominian :) [22:19] <_chess_> hi firebird619, how's it goin? [22:19] [ in bed ] [22:19] Action: dive wakes up [22:19] _chess_: going very well, thank you. [22:19] someone say strap-on? [22:19] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:19] [ in bed ] [22:19] :D [22:19] rofl [22:19] heh [22:20] <_chess_> strap-on and bed ... hmmm [22:20] Action: Dominian looks around for straterra [22:20] dive, is that a high-light word for you? [22:20] :) [22:20] heh [22:20] Old_Fogie: oh that's scary.. [22:20] Shingoshi: does 'openoffice.org-3.1.0_en_US-i586-1_rlw.tgz' have java included in it? [22:20] Dominian, can say that again [22:20] kiraa: uhh no.. it uses the jre installed when you install Slackware [22:20] Guest81490 (n=aa@210.54.148.202) left ##slackware. [22:20] Dominian: I see [22:20] and thats the ONLY req? [22:21] apparently Guest81490 fails as a troll [22:21] kiraa: Java isn't a requirement per se [22:21] kiraa: No. But you can download it as a package. Let me get you the site. [22:21] in fact I turn off java in OOo [22:21] ls -al /usr/bin |grep java ,...hmmm returns /usr/bin/java is symlink to /dev/bloat [22:21] oh really? [22:21] because mine is /usr/bin/java -> /usr/lib64/java/deep/path/bloat [22:21] Floops (n=baihu@shellium/member/floops) left irc: Connection timed out [22:21] eviljames, :) [22:21] kiraa: It may have it included. I don't know for certain. I made an assumption. But still likely not. [22:22] w00t [22:22] slack is done [22:22] Shingoshi: ok [22:22] Let me go find that link for you. [22:22] macman_ then enjoy slackware [22:22] hrm ls -al /usr/bin | grep java returns: /usr/bin/java is symlinked to /dev/null/Old_Fogie... [22:22] hey anyone fiddle-futsing with that mini firefox browser on a netbook in --current? does it work for you. seems to run like poo-poo on a stock 12.2 system. [22:23] Dominian, :) [22:23] nille: i havce to install now 0_o [22:23] <_chess_> has anyone put slack on a eeepc 1000he? [22:23] Old_Fogie: mini firefox.. what? [22:23] how do i keep this torrent seeding in case i have to reformat this hd ? [22:23] Dominian, I forget the name, let me get link [22:23] Action: _chess_ is thinking about getting one [22:23] Action: Dominian slaps _chess_ [22:23] <_chess_> ouch [22:23] You can't get anything accomplished with a Netbook other than to say "Hey.. look at this.. I have a functioning paper weight!" [22:23] :) [22:23] _chess_, iirc mr. alienBOB has one [22:24] <_chess_> I have an acer aspire one and use it all the time :-) [22:24] _chess_: FWIW, i have a Acer 10.1" and i like it a lot. [22:24] Slackware seems to be missing squashfs tools. [22:24] Dominian: disagree. makes for a great on-the-go machine imho. [22:24] Action: Dominian sticks with his 17" wide screen, 8.5lb mobile workstation alienware :P [22:24] <_chess_> actually, I *used* it all the time until my wife discovered it and took it over [22:24] eviljames: My alienware makes a great on the go workstation :P [22:24] Dominian: Though I use a 15"HP myself heh [22:24] heh [22:24] Action: andarius got his kid an HP mini. it is actualy rather nice [22:24] kiraa: Which java did you want? jre satisfies java as far as I know. jdk is the devel version. [22:24] <_chess_> Old_Fogie: okay, thanks [22:24] Dominian: Even my 15 is HUGE in my eyes. [22:25] <_chess_> agentc0re: that 10.1 acer seems nice [22:25] andarius: running xp, or linux ? [22:25] Dominian it's better to get new glasses and start using an netbook [22:25] eviljames: yeah.. the VP where I work used to make fun of my alienware.. and how big it was... he just bought a new dell.. same foot print as my alienware lol [22:25] and weighs WAY too much.. 6cell battery and all [22:25] Shingoshi: I dont 'nee' any java, it was a mere Q [22:25] 'need'* [22:25] Dominian: hahaha nice... does yours have the insane 2560x1680 screen? [22:25] thrice`: XP. the kid has not learned enough nor is she driven enough to use linux. plus she needs to have what ll the other kids do until she learns a lot more [22:25] eviljames: uhhh no [22:26] Then you can use the link I gave for OOo. [22:26] there's laptops with 2560x1680? [22:26] Dominian: ahh, my boss bought a new beast of a Dell, it has something insane liket hat. [22:26] amazon10x: yea, I saw one the other day.. demanded that he expense me one too. No dice :( [22:26] Dominian, here is a screenshot http://www.phonemag.com/firefox-mobile-fennec-screenshots-now-available-105270.php [22:26] lol [22:26] It was higher res than the screen on my desk. lunacy. [22:26] Dominian, it's called 'fennec' [22:26] it's pretty neat, just resizes really bad for me on 12.2 [22:26] ever since using my 10" netbook, just a 15" feels like a theatre screen [22:27] hahah, even at 1280x800 (like my cheap screen does) [22:27] <_chess_> I still love my trusty ol' thinkpad x40. nice little machine. [22:27] kiraa: slapt-get > SOURCE=http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/ [22:27] <_chess_> but my t61 feels a bit too large these days [22:28] Shingoshi: thanks [22:28] eh [22:28] eviljames: my resolution is 1440x900 [22:28] eviljames: now the VP's laptop.. has that 2560xungodlywhatever [22:29] _chess_: I know, my t72 is way to clumpsy. I need something more agile [22:29] Evening _chess_ [22:29] kiraa: You're welcome! [22:29] the manager people always seem to pick the biggest laptop available [22:29] http://www.curbly.com/Chrisjob/posts/5316-The-1-Sharpie-Room-Makeover- [22:29] <_chess_> howdy XGizzmo_ [22:29] even when it's some dell that weighs 14 lbs with a battery that lasts for 30 minutes [22:30] at least my battery lasts a good 8 hours... that makes up for the weight. [22:30] eviljames: wtf kind of laptop is that [22:30] lol [22:30] <_chess_> cmk_zzz: yeah, I hear ya. the t61 is a great machine but I'm getting too old and lazy to lug that around [22:30] i got that extended battery pack for a dell laptop that lasts ~3.5-4 hours depending on load [22:31] amazon10x: it says a 6 cell, from HP. With cpu frequency scaling and dilligent monitoring of powertop I might be able to squeek 12 hours out of it [22:31] my netbook will go for 6-7 hrs which is great for me. i just take it out and about in the morning and then plug back in when i get home at nght [22:31] GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! [22:31] wooo Vancouver! [22:31] I only get 2 hours on my acer aspire one , stock battery [22:31] eviljames: what kind of specs is it [22:31] <_chess_> that's nice. my 8.9 acer aspire one gets a sucky 2-2.5 hrs [22:31] Old_Fogie: yeah, you gotta get those 6 cell batteries [22:32] amazon10x, the wife was _supposed_ to have gotten them for us here, dont know what she's waiting for [22:32] amazon10x: Core 2 Duo, 2GB ram, 250gb hd, 80211abg, and it came with a neato remote control that auto-magically worked in Linux! :D [22:32] was cheap, too... like $700 last year [22:32] model number? [22:32] i want one, lol [22:32] dv6729ca [22:32] and whats ur Window Manager do u use? I use blackbox [22:32] (note ca = canadian [22:32] and what* [22:33] kiraa: For packages you won't find anywhere else, try this repo: SOURCE=http://dogbert.no-root.org/slackware-12.2/ [22:33] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] but you don't know clean the builder's system was? [22:33] why are they giving the canucks different laptops than us [22:34] amazon10x: French support. [22:35] laptops are getting so nice these days [22:36] kiraa (n=kiraa@ip68-102-46-3.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [22:36] sleepytime, laters [22:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:39] anyone know what the deal is with the qyoto bindings on slack? they seem to be missing but they're supposed to be in kdelibs [22:40] s/kdelibs/kdebindings [22:41] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] amazon10x, which version of slack? [22:42] -current [22:42] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:42] you might wanna clarify that next time :) [22:43] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:43] Whats the fun in that old one? [22:43] the goose chase [22:44] yeah that ain't gonna be in slackware, that's mono [22:44] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libqyoto4.4-cil [22:45] yes, it is [22:45] i guess qyoto needs mono to be built so this makes sense [22:45] right, so we don't have mono in --current yet, so there'll be no qyoto [22:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] <_chess_> http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/source/kde/kdebindings/kdebindings.SlackBuild [22:46] amazon10x, I suppose, one could build the mono, and rebuild the bindings, but I have no idea what else may be needed to be rebuilt for it tho amazon10x in the kde 4 stuff [22:46] <_chess_> -DENABLE_QYOTO:BOOL=OFF \ [22:47] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:47] ooh. that looks like what i need [22:47] amazon10x, some kde4 app may/might need a rebuild to see the bindings built with qyoto? not sure. you might want to persuse ubunut,debian's site to see which it referrs too [22:47] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:58] greetings:) [22:58] hello hitest [22:59] hi Old_Fogie:) [23:00] a summit of the elders? [23:00] Action: eviljames ducks and runs away [23:00] lol [23:00] come here ya whipper snapper:) [23:00] I should know better than to pick a fight I'd lose... [23:00] careful now, I'll conjure up some old-whipper-snapper-whoop-a$$ on ya now [23:01] [ in bed ] [23:01] hehe [23:01] haha, you 've been waiting all night to do that to me aint ya hiptobecubic :) [23:01] WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [23:01] Old_Fogie, actually that's my first. I wanted it to be a good one. I've been camping for days :D [23:02] glad I'm still of use here then, haha. [23:02] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] hiptobecubic: where did you go camping? [23:02] ##slackware [23:03] you darn slurker [23:03] secret sniper:) [23:04] It'll never cease to amaze me, how I _always_ ask myself "hmmm, where did this heart burn come from" on a night, shortly thereafter eating damn near a whole pizza by myself. [23:04] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.3.170) joined ##slackware. [23:04] You did not drink enough beer [23:04] Old_Fogie: LOL [23:04] you'd think I'd learn my lesson by now, if [ consume /dev/pizza ]; then ingest $TUMS fi [23:04] Old_Fogie: thats awesome. [23:05] XGizzmo_, you might be right, the malt to be the yin/yang to the acids, good point, I'll wright that down. [23:05] GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! [23:05] <_chess_> s/$TUMS/$BEER [23:05] hahah Vancouver takes the lead! [23:06] http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=1582337 [23:06] speaking of vanacouver [23:06] I will never read their newspaper again... resize my browser window will ya?! [23:06] the funny thing is, I've had this conversation of 'where's the heartburn from" for years now; you'd think I'd get it. I'm like that monkey with the square peg in round hole on this matter I guess. [23:07] what is your favorite beverage [23:07] coffee [23:07] hmm [23:08] yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment [23:08] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] Old_Fogie: nah you're more like the dog who chases a flash light [23:08] but I offset that with a heavy diet of marlboro, and pipe tobacco, so its ok. [23:08] antiwire, yeah haha really [23:09] aww poo. Chicago ties. [23:09] (sorry, I'm probably the only one who gives a crud about hockey...) [23:09] i love hockey but i don't follow the who's who [23:09] s/probably// [23:09] i like the game [23:10] i could careless who wins..as long as a Canadian team goes all the way ;) [23:10] it's a travesty when some US team wins [23:10] the last Canadian team is fighting for their life tonight. [23:10] <_chess_> go 'canes :-) [23:10] tis the only thing Canada does right, so they take pride in it [23:10] Action: Old_Fogie hides :) [23:10] Old_Fogie: hahah you're forgetting healthcare, education and infrastructure. [23:10] THE GAME!!! [23:11] Old_Fogie: But USA wins on Defense! [23:11] eviljames, hahaha I was waiting for ya to chime in :) [23:11] Ovetchkin ftw [23:11] ? [23:11] eviljames: so then the US should just provide defense contracts in return for cheaper fuel and health care! YAY [23:11] j/k lets not go there [23:11] sitwon_: that series is tied and going to game 7 [23:12] Old_Fogie: heh, one day we should have a laugh at the incompetant Liberal party... during the last election it was reaaaaaly bad. [23:13] lmrickey (n=mark@ool-44c1a0b0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] eviljames, :) [23:14] hey we should have a competition, see who's countries can print more money in this depression? :) [23:14] the Conservative government here is doing their 'free market' thing cautiously and it's not entirely bad. [23:14] They aren't touching the big L/small l Liberal stuff for the moment heh [23:14] must be early in the race then? [23:15] they're not going for each others throats yet, calling names? [23:15] no such thing as a free market [23:15] heh, the last election was November, we won't have another one soon.. but your guys didn't even have to call names at my guys... we looked dumb. [23:16] our local conservative party called me again, asked me to rejoin, etc etc. I told them to 'kma' [23:17] "Mumbly Joe" Stephane Dion was a smart guy but couldn't speak English (to a country that's 80% english) to save his life. [23:17] yeah.. Old_Fogie is a right-wing, anarchist, pacifist, Republic-rat [23:17] Action: eviljames is a left-wing looney toon. [23:17] right wing wackos freak me out [23:17] Dominian, well I still hold alot of the beliefs, but the 'party' has just lost my faith. [23:17] eh [23:18] Political parties remind me of religion, if you don't see it their way, you're damned. [23:18] I dropped out of the conservative party here [23:18] the 'crazy house' has taken over the 'party'. It's not traditional Conservatism vs. Progressives at the moment. [23:18] Dominian, yea that's how it got here [23:18] Action: Dominian nods [23:18] until politicians start to see politics as a service to their country rather than a career to earn $$ nothing good will ever come of it [23:19] OH BLOODY HELL, LUNGO IS HURT? [23:19] (goalie, Vancouver Canucks - last Canadian team in the playoffs) [23:19] bah, nvm, fake drama, apologies. [23:19] ivan_ (n=ivan8013@189.77.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:19] dive: this is true regardless of party, wing or ideology. [23:20] a friend of mine is still in the party, and she tells me alot of people have left the cons. party here, for many of same reasons I did too. [23:21] oh god... [23:21] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1518 [23:21] I think that's my new favorite [23:21] not that a cons. party in NY state even stands a chance really here. you could put Elmo on the Dem party ticket and he'd win. just look at hillary :) [23:21] lmrickey (n=mark@ool-44c1a0b0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] eviljames, I know [23:22] yeah, an educated woman? That's comparable to a cartoon character... [23:22] there's been a lot in the news in UK lately about MPs fiddling expenses [23:22] I guess elmo's not a cartoon character.. and puppet might be an apt comparison for Hillary, actually. [23:22] Dominian: lol [23:22] talking about dissolving parliament (never happen) [23:23] dive: expensing stuff they shouldn't have? We dissolved parliament in October 08.. never say never. [23:23] eviljames: van goal! [23:23] Dominian, hahaha is that true? [23:23] it was fun for the converatives to point fingers and blame, but then there were leaks of cons expenses too [23:23] I submitted that one :x [23:23] they are all at it regardless [23:24] and it was real. [23:24] Old_Fogie: no idea.. I just approved it :) [23:24] you really think 'variable' was the guy doing the hiring? what are the chances? [23:24] well, either way, gunther took the bait, so ti's funny yup :0 [23:24] lol [23:25] noobfarm is great [23:25] lol good one [23:26] yea it is, and Dominian's not just the noobfarm president, he's also a client :) [23:26] hahaha [23:26] (TM) [23:27] paissad (n=paissad@5.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:28] shaddup [23:29] bastards [23:29] Action: Old_Fogie snickers deviously [23:29] o/win 3 [23:29] *FAIL* [23:30] Dominian: alives? [23:30] tecky: never [23:30] hrm [23:30] q for you [23:30] Action: cmk_zzz always fails [23:30] what lower end nvidia gpu would you recomend [23:30] 8000's / 9000's series [23:30] 9000 [23:30] its for a 350 watt ps [23:30] oh [23:30] 8000 probably [23:31] so like 9400 ? [23:31] but thena gain.. I know jack about hardware anymore [23:31] bagh [23:31] u sux! [23:31] if straterra were around I'd say ask him [23:31] >.> [23:31] who wants to talk to that homo! [23:31] he's a terd! [23:31] :P [23:31] when it comes to hardware.. he knows his shit.. thats why [23:31] i have a 8800gt and it's really great. [23:31] ugh [23:31] agentc0re: aye, and it requires a 400+ watt ps [23:32] and a 12 volt line mostlikely [23:32] you know what dom, i was sitting on the toilet earlier ... and i thought about you for one second there [23:32] but just for one second [23:32] wtf [23:33] :P [23:34] i bought myself a Dell Inspiron 530n (Q6600 cpu) [23:34] >.< [23:34] nice [23:34] ya, nic flipped a lid but w/e [23:35] hehe [23:36] vnv nation's new album is pretty damn good [23:36] >.> [23:36] tecky: That's not necessarily true. You could have two 400watt PSU's that run two different sized 12v rails. You would obviously want the higher one. So depending on what you can find and what and how much you are running you don't necessarily need a lot of watts but you need the amp's to deliver the 12v to the various devices efficiently. [23:37] my point is the gpu requires a 400+ watt ps, and i have a 300 / 350 [23:38] tecky: the GPU isn't going to suck 400watts. [23:38] and, as i stated i dont need high graphics, just stuff for compiz + other stupid misc crap [23:38] tecky: Then get a 7000 series. [23:38] tecky: Or even a high 6000 series. [23:38] i wouldn't go that low [23:38] i'll get a 8000 series [23:38] just trying to decide what one [23:38] 8400gt / gs [23:38] i think [23:40] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Success [23:42] mosquito (n=fuck@201.6.103.4) joined ##slackware. [23:43] mosquito (n=fuck@201.6.103.4) left ##slackware. [23:43] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:44] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-98-192-82-158.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] tecky: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9800-gx2-review,1792-14.html i really think you need to read this. Honestly, i think you 350w PSU might be fine depending on it's 12v rail. [23:48] tecky: you should get a kill-a-watt and find out what your current wattage consumption is. [23:51] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:52] tecky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series#GeForce_8800_Series find the Technical Summary [23:54] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCl [23:55] Rat409_ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:56] Nick change: Rat409_ -> Rat409 [23:56] a 350w PSU at 80% efficiency is capable of producing 280w. One HD is about 15w, CD <5w unused and 10-15w in use. not sure what kind of CPU you have, so fill in the blank. a 8600GT is 43w. That leaves 207w. Now as long as you have a good 12v rail to continually supply that power, i think you will be fine. [23:57] so I've done this before, but can't remember how now [23:58] can I just dd an ISO onto a usb drive and boot from that? [23:58] sometimes DD works. [23:58] Fedora has a nice program that does it. [23:58] surprisingly enough windows has some good programs too. [23:59] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ [00:00] --- Tue May 12 2009