[00:00] <godling> rworkman: the issue isn't slackware related, really :)
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[00:01] <rworkman> godling: oh, well, still - tech talk should "win" regardless.
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[00:01] <godling> rworkman: in an ideal world... ;)
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[00:03] <godling> ViN86: no need to apologize, there is a ##SlackOfftopic though
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[00:03] <spook> godling: on the unpacksdc site it shows you how
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[00:04] <fredoslack> spook,  >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0014.gif
[00:04] <fredoslack> loool
[00:04] <deco> fredoslack: la merde lol
[00:04] <fredoslack> lol
[00:04] <fredoslack> deco,  avoue qu'il est mimi ;)
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[00:05] <spook> rworkman: can you please do something about fredoslack?  i've asked him to stop nicely, quite a few times now
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[00:06] <godling> spook: yeah, I know
[00:07] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid
[00:07] <godling> spook: the error is not specific to unpacksdc, maybe
[00:07] <rworkman> spook: to stop what?
[00:08] <spook> rworkman: posting links to junk.
[00:08] <godling> spook: I think I need to install .NET.
[00:09] <spook> godling: might help. considering it uses the .net stream/file handliing libraries
[00:09] <godling> :)
[00:09] <godling> he doesn't have the source available so I couldn't see what he was using anyways
[00:10] <spook> godling: he talks about it in the blogs
[00:10] <godling> shut up :P
[00:10] <rworkman> A casual scroll up doesn't show a whole lot, but perhaps I'm missing something.  That being said, and this applies to everyone, let's not intentionally annoy anyone.  This isn't primary school.
[00:10] <godling> spook: Now I see it. ;P
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[00:11] <godling> rworkman: then why is spook eating paste?
[00:11] <rworkman> Good question.
[00:11] <spook> i finished off the last of the paste a few hours ago
[00:11] <deco> lol
[00:11] <danc3> mmmmmm paste
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[00:12] <danc3> what's in paste that makes it so appealing, anyway?
[00:12] <spook> non toxic thats what
[00:12] <danc3> ahhh
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[00:12] <godling> crayons are non-toxic but they taste like fail
[00:12] <danc3> not many things left in the world that can make that claim
[00:12] <esoteric> rworkman, have you taken a look at cfengine 3 at all?
[00:12] <quasar> try the toxic ones :)
[00:13] <thepeng> hey folks, Im pretty new to linux and Im trying to us tkdvd to burn a dvd. it has my device set as /dev/sr0 as default but that doesnt work... what command in terminal shows me where my drives are assigned?
[00:13] <spook> thepeng: what kind of dvd write is it? SATA?
[00:13] <thepeng> I think so, its in a laptop
[00:13] <danc3> thepeng:   cat /etc/fstab should give some clues
[00:14] <spook> thepeng: ls -l /dev/cdrom    might give you a bigger clue
[00:14] <thepeng> hah! hda, thank you!
[00:14] <spook> its IDE :)
[00:14] <rworkman> esoteric: I haven't
[00:15] <thepeng> great. these are the backups of my old windows partition, after its done I can delete windows and use slack for permanent. thanks again
[00:15] <rworkman> esoteric: I don't actually use it; I just approved the submit at SBo
[00:15] <esoteric> rworkman: ok -- thx
[00:15] <fredoslack> gn, bye
[00:15] <spook> thepeng: good luck.  i wish you well :)
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[00:17] <godling> blah, windows update :/
[00:18] <godling> hrm
[00:18] Action: godling wonders if he can get masm to work in dosbox
[00:19] <ViN86> i have a general question regarding 64-bit apps
[00:19] <ViN86> if i have the source code, can i compile it for 64-bit slack, or not necessarily?
[00:20] <spook> ViN86: in most cases yes.
[00:20] <ViN86> spook: for example, i will want LAM-MPI, but they only offer the source
[00:20] <godling> in terms of moving to 64-bit architectures, the IT industry has failed to properly explain what "32 bit" actually means.
[00:21] <ViN86> i have the 32-bit compatibility packs as well, so i mean worst case scenario i could revert
[00:22] <ViN86> anyone have experience with clusters and PVM vs. MPI?
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[00:28] <godling> spook: 120 updates in Windows just to unpack an sdc. ;P
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[00:29] <vdv> hi all
[00:29] <godling> hello
[00:29] <godling> how may we service you this evening?
[00:30] <vdv> i've installed 13.0 on my hp compaq q610
[00:30] <vdv> kernel panicks during suspend/hibernate
[00:31] <vdv> how can i turn off suspend?
[00:31] <rworkman> What?
[00:31] <rworkman> Does it panic on suspend or wakeup?
[00:31] <vdv> when closing lid
[00:31] <vdv> on suspend
[00:32] <vdv> actually i want to disable suspend when closing laptops lid
[00:32] <rworkman> Can you give me full output of lshal?
[00:32] <rworkman> (pastebin it)
[00:33] <rworkman> Re disabling suspend on lid event, what DE?
[00:33] <godling> in xfce there's a plugin for the panel that allows you to handle acpi stuff
[00:34] <godling> I imagine it's similar for other DEs
[00:34] <vdv> i'm not using X yet
[00:34] <vdv> acpi event is handled in console
[00:35] <vdv> i.e. i'm not running X now
[00:35] <rworkman> vdv: then you configured the lid event to suspend it; unconfigure it.
[00:35] <rworkman> IOW, Slackware doesn't "just do that" on its own.
[00:35] <rworkman> I still want "lshal" output.
[00:36] <vdv> ok, i'll post it now
[00:36] <vdv> i didn't configured anything yet, it's fresh installation
[00:36] <rworkman> Then it's not suspending.
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[00:37] <vdv> what then?
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[00:38] <vdv> http://pastebin.com/m6e61ad71
[00:39] <ViN86> off to bed, gnite everyone
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[00:39] <vdv> bye
[00:40] <godling> eep
[00:40] <godling> I forgot how much crap lshal spews
[00:41] <vdv> :)
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[00:42] <rworkman> vdv: you don't have that POS broadcom "wl" module loaded, do you?
[00:42] <vdv> let me to check
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[00:43] <godling> rworkman: would that have anything to do with it?
[00:43] <vdv> no, it's not loaded
[00:43] <rworkman> godling: I don't konw.
[00:44] <rworkman> I just saw that it has the chipset which needs it.
[00:44] <godling> ah
[00:44] <rworkman> vdv: as root, if you type "pm-suspend" - does it panic/
[00:44] <rworkman> er, s%/%?%
[00:45] <godling> It doesn't seem like a wireless adapter module would affect acpi suspend/hibernate
[00:45] <godling> maybe boot from lan stuff would use acpi system calls?
[00:45] <vdv> no
[00:45] <rworkman> godling: the module is binary only and taints the kernel.
[00:45] <rworkman> vdv: so it suspends correctly when you do that?
[00:45] <godling> oh, so it might punch my mom in the stomach for all I know
[00:45] <vdv> yes
[00:46] <vdv> it's ok
[00:46] <godling> rworkman: I had to use a binary NVidia driver on my desktop.
[00:46] <godling> :D
[00:46] <rworkman> vdv: check to see if there's a new BIOS for it.
[00:46] <vdv> and resumes correctly
[00:46] <rworkman> vdv: you don't have a suspend issue.  I'm not sure what you *do* have, but it's not a suspend problem
[00:46] <vdv> now i see, yes
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[00:47] <vdv> i'm just closing the lid and kernel panics
[00:47] <vdv> maybe the issue is with hibernate?
[00:48] <rworkman> do this: echo 7 > /proc/acpi/video/C09A/DOS    and see if anythign changes
[00:48] <rworkman> (i.e. then close the lid)
[00:48] Action: godling thinks rworkman just read the same thing he did
[00:48] <rworkman> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0901.1/02690.html
[00:48] <rworkman> :)
[00:49] <godling> yep yep
[00:49] <godling> also found some bug reports with similar issues
[00:49] <rworkman> yep
[00:49] <vdv> hey
[00:49] <vdv> it's doesn't panich now!
[00:50] <vdv> i think it's occured after running pm-suspend manually
[00:50] <rworkman> Yay!
[00:50] <vdv> i'm closing the lid and nothing occurs
[00:50] <godling> I wonder if one day I will get old enough to where I don't say "yay!"
[00:51] <rworkman> I hope I don't.
[00:51] <godling> maybe I should start with "by jove, that's jolly good!"
[00:51] <BP{k}> godling: you better worry about the day you don't. :)
[00:51] <godling> pip pip
[00:51] <godling> fuuuuuuuuucking windows update hung on me :/
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[00:52] Action: rworkman is trying to contain his surprise  ;-)
[00:52] <godling> I think it's 'cause I didn't install WGA
[00:52] <godling> the pricks
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[00:53] <godling> oh motheruadfaf
[00:53] <godling> I hit cancel and of course it says it didn't install *any* of the updates
[00:53] <godling> I was on update 99/120
[00:53] <deco> lol
[00:53] <godling> I need to punch something now
[00:53] <vdv> panics again, after reboot
[00:54] <godling> "you must restart your machine for the updates to take effect"
[00:54] Action: godling stabs virtualbox in the face
[00:54] <vdv> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ..
[00:54] <vdv> process swapper
[00:55] <godling> vdv: what kernel version are you using?
[00:55] <vdv> pid 0
[00:55] <godling> all the bug reports about the suspend thing I'm reading say the problem is fixed in 2.6.30
[00:55] <vdv> the version which is default in 13.0
[00:55] <godling> should be 2.6.29 in 13.0, right guys?
[00:55] <vdv> think it's now suspend issue
[00:56] <vdv> *not
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[00:56] <BP{k}> godling: default should be 2.6.29.6
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[00:57] <godling> yeah
[00:57] <vdv> maybe it's because i'm not running generic kernel
[00:58] <godling> spook: all that bs and the .sdc file is a new one that doesn't work unpacksdc 1.1
[00:58] <godling> *doesn't work with
[00:58] <spook> godling: ah okay. the new encrypt
[00:58] <spook> whats the image?
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[00:58] <godling> windows 7
[00:58] <spook> which edition?
[00:59] <godling> x64
[00:59] <godling> professional
[00:59] <spook> i did 64 ultimate just fine.
[01:00] <rworkman> vdv: try the 2.6.30.soemthing kernel in /testing
[01:00] <vdv> ok, i'll try it
[01:01] <vdv> now rebooted, then i rung pm-suspend and closed the lid
[01:01] <godling> spook: did you use unpacksdc 1.1?
[01:01] <vdv> there's no panic
[01:01] <vdv> but if i don't rung pm-suspend before and just closing the lid then it panics
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[01:02] <spook> godling: ya
[01:03] <godling> shit
[01:03] <godling> maybe the image got corrupted in transit
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[01:04] <godling> I've fudged it and shared the folder it is in via virtualbox, and am trying the alliance downloader/unpacker with it
[01:04] <godling> right now it is checking the crc
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[01:04] <rworkman> vdv: please consider filing a bug at kernel.org
[01:04] <godling> vdv: yes, please
[01:05] <rworkman> vdv: you'll want to get write down *exactly* the text from the panic
[01:06] <rworkman> vdv: even better, here's a generic kernel config for 2.6.31.3 that you can try: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/config-generic-2.6.31.3
[01:06] <rworkman> vdv: you'll have to make an initrd to use it, but at least that way you can make sure it's not fixed in the latest kernel already
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[01:10] <godling> crc computation on a 2GB file takes forever :/
[01:11] <spook> if its only 2gb you've got a problem
[01:11] <spook> oh wait
[01:11] <spook> no 2gb is about right.
[01:12] <godling> ah, it was unpacking as it was doing the crc check, I guess
[01:12] <godling> spook: unpacked it is 3.1G
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[01:12] <godling> have a little faith aussie
[01:12] <godling> go barbecue me some shrimp
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[01:19] <spook> i has shrimp and a bbq
[01:19] <spook> so uh
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[01:21] <godling> spook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_on_the_barbie
[01:22] <vbatts> rworkman: can you PM with a contact for troy?
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[01:22] <spook> godling: brb gotta feed my pet kangaroo
[01:23] <rworkman> vbatts: see elsewhere :)
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[01:26] <godling> spook: is that an Australian euphemism for dropping a deuce?
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[01:26] <vbatts> rworkman: ;) thx
[01:28] <spook> godling: no
[01:28] <spook> godling: thats dropping the kids off at the pool
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[01:29] <esoteric> maybe it has something to do with this earlier post: http://teddziuba.com/2009/09/18/plucking-you-unibrow-is-the-most-undignified-type-o
[01:29] <esoteric> f-grooming.jpg
[01:30] <godling> holy shit, windows 7 needs 20 gb
[01:30] <deco> so did vista
[01:30] <CcSsNET> epic failure
[01:30] <godling> well, screw that noise
[01:31] <CcSsNET> they must have a 10gb universal unique id
[01:31] <Rat409> lol
[01:31] <veritos> Hell, I could do a full Slackware install, all the KDEI, all the aspell langs, extract all the source and still not hit that.
[01:31] <deco> and that's just windows, and after you add your office suite graphics editor etc...
[01:31] <CcSsNET> pathetic
[01:32] <Rat409> no firewall etc...lol
[01:32] <Rat409> least we orget a good antivirus proggie
[01:32] <spook> actually.
[01:33] <godling> my friendj ust told me he's running it in a vm and it's only eating 8
[01:33] <spook> the windows firewall, is better than any other windows firewall software.
[01:33] <spook> godling: yeah i had about the same.
[01:33] <Rat409> new in 7?
[01:33] <spook> Rat409: even in XP
[01:33] <CcSsNET> ive got a full desktop, 5 browsers, 7 programming editors, all my media tools, network tools ect ect ect all fitting inside 3.7gb installed
[01:33] <Rat409> spook: how so?
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[01:34] <spook> Rat409: friend who is doing phd in computer forensics did a joint paper on windows firewalls
[01:34] <godling> I've only got 14GB available on /home
[01:34] <spook> Rat409: of all the products they tried, windows firewall was the most secure.
[01:34] <spook> this was looking at default configuration too.
[01:34] <CcSsNET> spook send me a url must read it
[01:35] <spook> hasnt been published yet
[01:35] <CcSsNET> and i dought the default windows was better then sygate personal firewall 5.6 with an inteligent user
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[01:35] <snL20> spook: heh
[01:35] <Rat409> yuh its unidirectional not stateful afaik,sounds whacked
[01:36] <spook> CcSsNET: this was zero configuration.
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[01:37] <CcSsNET> hmm
[01:37] <CcSsNET> well zero configuration with a "software firewall" means no user interaction thus nullified
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[01:37] <spook> lemme see if i can get stuff off him
[01:37] <godling> yes, tell your friend we want to read his dissertation before he publishes it
[01:38] <felon> hello
[01:38] <godling> ask him to give it to us in .odt format preferably
[01:38] <spook> its not his dissertation.
[01:38] <godling> ;P
[01:38] <CcSsNET> lol ^
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[01:38] <spook> its just some random joint paper he did
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[01:38] <godling> I see, spook
[01:38] <felon> its been a while since i ran slackware but was wandering if i could duel boot it easly
[01:38] <spook> felon: yeah very easily
[01:38] <snL20> felon: sure
[01:39] <felon> and was wandering the latest version to obtain for slackware
[01:39] <snL20> felon: www.slackware.com
[01:39] <felon> and if the GUI is alot better than a few years ago
[01:39] <felon> acually longer than that
[01:40] <Rat409> 13.0 kde4 xfce4 fluxbox etc.
[01:40] <Rat409> theres i486/x86_64 versions
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[01:40] <CcSsNET> i havent actually tried 13 yet even though i downloaded it night of the torrent release
[01:40] <deco> quasar: :O
[01:41] <deco> quasar:  it's time
[01:41] <deco> hmmm must be afk
[01:41] Action: deco goes back to read
[01:41] <spook> CcSsNET, godling can i pm you two?
[01:41] <felon> is version 13 for intel cpus i386 correct ?
[01:41] <godling> spook: only if you buy me dinner later, pervert
[01:41] <snL20> felon: i486
[01:41] <godling> go ahead :
[01:41] <godling> *:P
[01:42] <felon> for my intel ?
[01:42] <felon> thx.
[01:43] <Rat409> it supports i486(32-bit) and 64 bit for intel/amd so use what fits your march
[01:43] <spook> godling: thats him :)
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[01:45] <snL20> felon: latest is 64 bit I guess
[01:45] <godling> very serious looking kid
[01:45] <godling> I say kid because he's no doubt younger than I am
[01:45] <spook> godling: lol, hes distilling hard lemonade
[01:46] <CcSsNET> sure spook
[01:46] <godling> good for him? :)
[01:47] <thepeng> sorry for the basic question... do my bios and bootloader live in a place safe from fdisk? namely if I delete my windows partition is there a chance I could delete lilo?
[01:47] <Dominian> If you installed LILO to the MBR.. or the HD.. yes there's always a chance
[01:47] <snL20> embrace the power of dvd! *g*
[01:48] <spook> the power of a dead media
[01:48] <thepeng> @dominian if that did happen would I not be able to load linux? or would I just not have the lilo prompt
[01:49] <spook> thepeng: windows uses the superblock, so install to the mbr and chainload the windows boot loader.
[01:49] <snL20> thepeng: you can boot from cd or dvd and reinstall lilo
[01:49] <spook> liloconfig will guide you
[01:49] <Dominian> thepeng: You'd have to boot into a "rescue" mode or what not and reinstall lilo
[01:50] <thepeng> okay thanks everyone. Im off to delete windows for all of eternity
[01:50] <Dominian> :)
[01:50] <snL20> bitlbee is nice
[01:50] <spook> snL20: more than nice
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[01:51] <spider1010> hi all
[01:51] <snL20> spook: :-)
[01:51] <felon> im downloading the .iso
[01:51] <spider1010> ok something stupid
[01:51] <spider1010> from me
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[01:51] <snL20> spider1010: <3
[01:51] <snL20> :D
[01:52] <godling> ok, I was going to delete some mp3s so I can install windows 7 in a vm but screw it
[01:53] <CcSsNET> snL20 u might like naim also or centerim
[01:53] <snL20> using windows on a computer is like using it with training wheels
[01:53] <felon> so when i duelboot the iso right just partion get the volume ready and reboot with the slackware boot cd and put it on the new volume ?
[01:53] <snL20> CcSsNET: ok...
[01:53] <felon> is it that easy >
[01:53] <spider1010> i thought something had gotten into my system but turned out i did a virus scan on a networked computer that had my personal systems folder nfs'ed to it and so it looked as if something was getting into my hard drive but a quick tcpdump solved that
[01:54] <snL20> felon: well you boot the install cd/dvd
[01:54] <felon> of course
[01:55] <felon> wander what boot menu to use
[01:55] <snL20> felon: cfdisk - setup follow the instructions and thats it iirc
[01:55] <Rat409> or finch,pidgin's ncurses version
[01:56] <godling> spider1010: once I forgot that I wasn't bridging my vm's ethernet through my own machine and saw this random ip on my network
[01:56] <snL20> Rat409: thanks but bitlbee works for me
[01:57] <felon> will i have to use command promt for formating the new volume in linux
[01:57] <felon> or is it gui
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[01:58] <Rat409> yuh i use it sometimes in irssi/weechat it rocks
[01:58] <snL20> felon: well its curses setup takes care of it
[01:58] <felon> i dont follow
[01:58] <felon> curses ?
[01:59] <snL20> felon: like msdos setup
[01:59] <snL20> felon: that's about as gui as it gets
[01:59] <felon> heh
[01:59] <felon> startx
[01:59] <felon> heh
[01:59] <snL20> felon: yes :]
[02:00] <xdan779> snL20: you have to setup your partitions before runnign setup
[02:00] <snL20> xdan779: I already told him to run cfdisk
[02:00] <felon> c i recently install windows 7, then duel booted hackintosh to c if i could do it, it acually wasent bad
[02:00] <felon> i had leopard 10.5.5
[02:00] <godling> ok, fuck Windows 7
[02:01] <felon> laughing out loud
[02:01] <felon> no bout
[02:01] <xdan779> snL20: yea I know but it is good to note it is separet from the actual install setup
[02:01] <CcSsNET> spook i was only trying to give u advice
[02:01] <spook> CcSsNET: no, you were trolling, and very badly
[02:01] <CcSsNET> lol
[02:01] <CcSsNET> think as u wish
[02:02] <snL20> xdan779: ok...
[02:02] <felon> anyway, i couldnt get my sb live 5.1 to work thro hackintosh but everthing else was fine but fuck that i need sound and was curious to c what slackware was like now if there X was any btter
[02:02] <snL20> felon: first run cfdisk to partition and answer yes to write changes then run setup
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[02:02] <redtricycle> try it out, a lot has changed over the years
[02:03] <felon> cant i just partion the drive thro windows then boot the linux dvd ?
[02:03] <twolf> hehe
[02:03] <snL20> felon: you need a linux partition
[02:03] <felon> yes of course
[02:04] <snL20> felon: it wont screw up anything unless you dont know what you are doing
[02:04] <velusip> windows 7 supports partition resizing, doesn't it?  I mean, slack's boot CD probably has all the fuse/ntfs support you need to do it just as well, but it's kinda neat that win 7 can finally do simple tasks like that.
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[02:04] <twolf> cfdisk is pretty easy to use, even if you don't know what you are doing
[02:04] <felon> c if i shrink the volume and make a partion name it slackware i can reboot into the slackware dvd and format the partion i made already right ?
[02:05] <deco> c'est la vie
[02:05] <godling> no felon
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[02:05] <felon> oh
[02:05] <snL20> felon: the partition needs to be of type linux
[02:05] <godling> unless fdisk can mark the partition as linux type
[02:05] <spider1010> that was a great crap
[02:05] <spider1010> oh yea
[02:05] <spider1010> tmi anyone
[02:05] <twolf> you can run fdisk from inside the slackware dvd installer
[02:05] <godling> yeah spider1010
[02:05] <godling> stfu
[02:06] <snL20> felon: I suppose partition magic can do it though
[02:06] <spider1010> stfu???
[02:06] <godling> seriously, did this just degenerate into retard hour?
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[02:06] <felon> fdisk will let me make a partion ?
[02:06] <spider1010> lol great
[02:06] <velusip> scaring us now felon
[02:06] <felon> laughing out loud
[02:07] <snL20> felon: probably not of linux type, if you need to resize a partition and make a new one well....
[02:07] <godling> felon is trolling
[02:07] <godling> wise up
[02:07] <felon> id just hate to have to use comand line and get stuck somewhere and have to start all over after rebooting back to windows
[02:07] <twolf> god forbid
[02:08] <felon> laughing out loud
[02:08] <snL20> felon: have you considered ubuntu?
[02:08] <spider1010> sorry i didn't start chatting online until recently. before that i just read alot
[02:08] <felon> acually i googled it
[02:08] <felon> didnt look to too bad
[02:08] <spider1010> so i don't know much of the chatting lingo
[02:08] <felon> and FreeBSD
[02:08] <snL20> lol
[02:08] <twolf> good luck with that
[02:08] <velusip> It's mostly English in here.
[02:09] <twolf> mmm pizza
[02:09] <spider1010> lol im talking about the abbreviations
[02:09] <spider1010> rum and coke
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[02:09] <deco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8at9AatIb9E
[02:10] <spider1010> mmmm
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[02:10] <Dominian> deco does that a lot..
[02:10] <Dominian> and I dare not even look at the youtube link he posted
[02:11] <velusip> dances on a plane?
[02:11] <Dominian> No.. spams links then /quits
[02:11] <fire|bird> Dominian: It's some music video this time. :P
[02:11] <Dominian> ah
[02:12] <fire|bird> Kate Ryan - Ella elle l'a
[02:12] <fire|bird> and yeah, he sure does do that alot.
[02:12] <snL20> ewwww
[02:13] <fire|bird> haha, http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/10/09/linux-is-an-evil-and-uncompassionate-os/
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[02:14] <velusip> nice
[02:14] <spook> CcSsNET: stop pm'ing me. last warning.
[02:15] <spider1010> http://www.geeksaresexy.net/gas-cartoons/
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[02:15] <spider1010> now thats funny
[02:15] <spook> please be aware he is a) a troll b) seriously mistaken about slackware c) a combination of a) and b)
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[02:16] <velusip> less drama, more awesome
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[02:20] <CcSsNET> to be specific i did stop pming you about 30 mins ago
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[02:21] <CcSsNET> fire|bird funny image on that link xD
[02:22] <CcSsNET> velusip, high 5
[02:24] <byteframe> That girl on the site IS hot, but she uses a mac...
[02:25] <snL20> byteframe: well of course, all hot girls use a mac, they're all about eyecandy :P
[02:25] <CcSsNET> hahah^
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[02:29] <byteframe> I'll compiz her panties off.
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[02:29] <CcSsNET> e17 might entice her
[02:30] <rk4n3> an interesting factoid:  one of the smartest guys I know, in terms of having mad skills/experience in everything from mainframe assembler to writing his own unix dynamic loader before any distributions even had shared libraries, uses and prefers macs
[02:30] <CcSsNET> well the hardware is sleek and always looks good
[02:30] <byteframe> rk4n3, he got burned out. we now have ubuntu to fall back on.
[02:31] <rk4n3> he uses ubuntu as well, but prefers macs :)
[02:31] <CcSsNET> not my style though id rather have a flat black gun metal chasis then bright shiny silver
[02:31] <byteframe> I agree with that.
[02:31] <byteframe> Lian Li desktop case, and thinkpads.
[02:31] <CcSsNET> mm
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[02:38] <spider1010> if you get burnt out on assembly then you turn to C or another mid level language you don't turn to just using the easiest crap out there. but what do i know i'm just a a user not a REAL programmer
[02:38] <spider1010> by easy crap i mean ubuntu
[02:39] <xdan779> spider1010: unbutu is not as easy as you think
[02:40] <spider1010> thats the stuff my wife uses and yes it is easy
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[02:40] <spider1010> i use to use it all the time starting out and then found how crappy it is
[02:40] <xdan779> spider1010: so what does your wife do when it goes all wrong
[02:40] <CcSsNET> erhm u mean bloated?
[02:40] <spider1010> get me to fix it
[02:41] <xdan779> spider1010: exactly which is why mine uses slackware
[02:41] <spider1010> slackware has taught me 10x more then ubuntu
[02:41] <godling> that's not the kill usage message
[02:41] <godling> stupid
[02:41] <CcSsNET> exactly why mine uses sourcemage, taught me 100x any distro combined
[02:41] <CcSsNET> xD
[02:41] <spider1010> i used ubuntu then debian then slackware which was a large change
[02:41] <xdan779> spider1010: it has taught my wife nothing, but it is a hell of lot easier for me to fix than ubuntu
[02:42] <CcSsNET> ive used every single distro on distowatch.com radar, since 1998
[02:42] <spider1010> yea i know, same here
[02:42] <sahko> congrats
[02:42] <CcSsNET> not really most where wastes of time
[02:42] <CcSsNET> hehe
[02:43] <spider1010> ubuntu keeps changing their way of doing stuff and its pissing me (as to tech) offf
[02:43] <spider1010> with 3 f's
[02:43] <spider1010> thats how pissed i am
[02:43] <mancha> i've used 8,965 distribs, i eat raw meat, and i irc by telnetting to port 6667
[02:44] <CcSsNET> yea changes means learning learning means incoviences, nice logic
[02:44] <spider1010> breath once and a while man
[02:44] <spider1010> its ok
[02:44] <xdan779> ubunto and its god awful package manager, I swear it wants to update some dumb fucking thing or another every other day
[02:45] <mancha> also, re folks :>
[02:45] <CcSsNET> mancha, u must be the confliker worm author then . . . have ur paws everywhere seeing all traffic in all places
[02:45] <CcSsNET> hehe
[02:45] <godling> mancha: do yourself a favor and go find sometihng else to do; the trolls have taken over the asylum
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[02:45] Action: CcSsNET bows
[02:46] <sahko> try the 8966th distro
[02:47] <spider1010> CcSsNET: hey, your logic is the same crap that drives shit os's. changes are good but changes from a ok os (debian) to the crap os (ubuntu) and then changing the system configs they use every release turns the distro it dirt.
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[02:48] <spider1010> ubuntu is helping bring people to the linux desktop i could just hope that they would use better judgement
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[02:49] <mancha> anyone know much about ff's new csp?
[02:49] <mancha> or upcoming csp, i shoudl say
[02:50] <spider1010> ff????, csp?????
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[02:50] <spider1010> just wanting to know
[02:50] <mancha> firefox
[02:51] <mancha> http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/09/30/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-browser-security/
[02:53] <samyf> How to mount a mobile phone which is  connected with a usb cable?
[02:53] <mancha> does linux recognize it?
[02:54] <samyf> it doesn't.
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[02:56] <Keiffer> Hi. Should I use a 64bit version of Slackware? And which one?
[02:56] <rk4n3> Keiffer: Slackware64 is very good - I'm using it quite extensively
[02:57] <CcSsNET> spider1010 i was joking around. i highly enjoy learning
[02:57] <CcSsNET> infact i was making fun of someone
[02:57] <xdan779> Keiffer: slackware64 has been very good
[02:58] <CcSsNET> spider1010 consult my chanlist for info
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[02:59] <Keiffer> Any problems when using slackware64?
[02:59] <spider1010> its all good man. i just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing and seeing where everyone stands
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[02:59] <CcSsNET> indeed
[03:00] <spider1010> i'm kind of a dick but i love jumping into the deep in of the software pool
[03:00] <CcSsNET> can i pm?
[03:00] <spider1010> pm?
[03:00] <CcSsNET> private message
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[03:01] <spider1010> cool i am new to talkin to people so if i have to do anything special let me know.
[03:01] <spider1010> using xchat
[03:01] <xdan779> spider1010: nothing wrong with that, reminds me of a song Fugazi/the argument puts things into perspective
[03:03] <spider1010> alway does not everyone gets that and takes offense. but with other techies i find that no matter what it is the OS that binds us. lol
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[03:07] <dfuse> hi all
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[03:08] <Rat409> laters
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[03:18] <jfspider1010> hello
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[03:25] <jfspider1010> hey someone say something interesting
[03:26] <CcSsNET> poof
[03:27] <ion_> i'll think of something interesting
[03:27] <ion_> hah
[03:27] <jfspider1010> wow lol
[03:27] <jfspider1010> ok
[03:27] <ion_> mmm
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[03:30] <jfspider1010> ok nothing i guesss
[03:30] <jfspider1010> *guess
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[03:31] <shik4nt4z4> Hello!
[03:31] <jfspider1010> Hey. Great to hear from you.
[03:32] <jfspider1010> Whoever you are. lol
[03:32] <CcSsNET> lol
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[03:38] <jfspider1010> CcSsNET, country
[03:39] <jfspider1010> me -> usa
[03:39] <jfspider1010> me -> usa -> nebraska -> omaha
[03:39] <CcSsNET> same
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[03:39] <jfspider1010> what???
[03:39] <jfspider1010> omaha
[03:40] <jfspider1010> ???????
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[03:42] <jfspider1010> what the hell just happened
[03:42] <CcSsNET> i didnt do it
[03:42] <CcSsNET> but thats a netsplit
[03:43] <jfspider1010> a what
[03:43] <CcSsNET> looks like a route or node broke
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[03:43] <jfspider1010> cool well then
[03:43] <CcSsNET> theyll all come back now hehe
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[03:44] <infidel> i know you guys know. how do i install from a mounted iso?
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[03:51] <jfspider1010> infedel
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[03:53] <jfspider1010> you need to extract the kernel from the iso and merge them if they are cd images. boot to the kernel image in the image directory that needs to be on a different partition
[03:55] <jfspider1010> anyone else
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[03:56] <jfspider1010> thats how i changed from debian to slackware
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[03:56] <med\weed> rawrz
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[03:57] <med\weed> guess i'm joining the dark side :>
[03:57] <jfspider1010> rawrz ????????
[03:57] <med\weed> Hey is there an option for fully encrypted install built in the installer?
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[03:57] <godling> My god, has it gotten worse?
[03:57] <infidel> i know you guys know. how do i install from a mounted iso?
[03:57] <jfspider1010> not that i know of. but i am not that deep yet
[03:58] <med\weed> Quite possibly; really would depend on 'it'.
[03:58] <jfspider1010> you need to extract the kernel from the iso and merge them if they are cd images. boot to the kernel image in the image directory that needs to be on a different partition
[03:58] <jfspider1010> infidel: look up
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[03:59] <med\weed> ah encrypted lvm is recommended eh
[04:00] <med\weed> ok questions: background: been using linux for aroudn 6-7 years now; damn good at it - not a coder - sysadmin.
[04:00] <med\weed> a. gnome+compiz+git?
[04:01] <med\weed> b. encryption overhead for encrypted lvm [real world percentage with multimedia workstation focus]
[04:01] <med\weed> c. Beta releases?
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[04:01] <med\weed> d. propriatary packages like w32codecs or nvidia drivers need seperate repos?
[04:02] <med\weed> d. Additional repos with popular software packages not already ready in official repos?
[04:02] <godling> You did d already, idiot.
[04:02] <med\weed> yeah
[04:02] <med\weed> well
[04:02] <med\weed> suck a dick :P
[04:02] <godling> Also, you're being very annoying.
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[04:02] <yskapell> hello guys
[04:02] <med\weed> While thats great and all, you have the option for /ignore
[04:02] <med\weed> hai yskapell
[04:03] <godling> I do.
[04:03] <med\weed> Use it.
[04:03] <yskapell> If I want some 32bit application to run in x86_64 slackware I have to follow this instructions? http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/
[04:04] <infidel> jfspider1010, i got split. there is nothing in topic
[04:04] Action: med\weed awaits one single person with any clue
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[04:05] <metrofox> hi there!
[04:05] <med\weed> y0
[04:05] <metrofox> yo med\weed
[04:05] <med\weed> infidel: that was for u btw ;)
[04:06] <med\weed> sup metrofox - what cha up to ovar there
[04:06] <med\weed> italy? O"
[04:06] <metrofox> med\weed, yes
[04:06] <med\weed> sweet - hey whats that club there thats the foam underwater dome?
[04:07] <med\weed> [if its still famous]
[04:07] <metrofox> mmm... I don't know...
[04:07] <med\weed> bah - :D
[04:08] <metrofox> :P
[04:08] <med\weed> you any good at slack?
[04:08] <metrofox> med\weed, i'm good sleeping...
[04:08] <metrofox> less good slacking... Otherwise, yeah... just a little bit...
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[04:09] <med\weed> ok i just need a non-prick to point me in the right direction here:
[04:09] <med\weed> ok questions: background: been using linux for aroudn 6-7 years now; damn good at it - not a coder - sysadmin.//a. gnome+compiz+git?//b. encryption overhead for encrypted lvm [real world  percentage with multimedia workstation focus]//c. Beta releases?//d. propriatary packages like w32codecs or nvidia drivers need seperate repos?//e. Additional repos with popular software packages not already ready in official repos?
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[04:10] <metrofox> mmm... 3 answer in one...
[04:10] <metrofox> sorry, 3 questions in one..
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[04:12] <metrofox> a.gnome+compiz+git sucks; b.; c.; d.No; e.slackbuilds.org(using sbopkg), slacky.eu
[04:13] <quasar> beta releases of what?
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[04:21] <med\weed> i got an answer on b
[04:21] <med\weed> c. is non-critical
[04:22] <metrofox> ah well...
[04:22] <med\weed> quasar: either a. access to bleeding edge binaries or b. beta stage releases
[04:22] <med\weed> metrofox: which is great
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[04:22] <med\weed> your solid in my book ;)
[04:22] <metrofox> med\weed, you found answer on b
[04:22] <metrofox> that's a step on...
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[04:27] <med\weed> metrofox: person claimed to not notice it
[04:27] <med\weed> i'd call that 10%
[04:27] <med\weed> metrofox: i dont believe them - guessing 20%
[04:27] <med\weed> hopefully given i'm coming from ubu the lack of bloat will compensatre
[04:28] <med\weed> s/compensatre/compensate
[04:28] <metrofox> how long you slack?
[04:28] <rworkman> I used full encryption via LVM/LUKS on a T41 and didn't notice any performance hit
[04:28] <rworkman> Same now on a T400
[04:29] <metrofox> hi mr.rworkman
[04:29] <rworkman> Granted, I didn't benchmark, and I'm not going to do so.  If I don't notice it, then it's not a problem :)
[04:29] <rworkman> metrofox: ola
[04:29] <rworkman> Well, wrong language, I suppose :)
[04:29] <med\weed> rworkman: koo
[04:29] <rworkman> koo?
[04:30] <med\weed> koo=coo=kewl=cool
[04:30] <metrofox> ah well... That's an anagram
[04:30] <med\weed> phonetical playing
[04:30] <metrofox> yeah, a phonetic anagram
[04:31] <med\weed> ;-)
[04:31] <med\weed> i get bored
[04:31] <metrofox> med\weed, format your disc and reinstall slackware :P
[04:32] <med\weed> metrofox: i am
[04:32] <med\weed> dling the iso from my torrent boxen now
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[04:32] <metrofox> ;)
[04:33] <metrofox> hi nullpointer :P
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[04:34] <group> metrofox: ;)
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[04:35] <WildWizard> got identity issues?
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[04:36] <vdv> who knows, where can i get all options for synaptec touchpad driver?
[04:36] <nullpointer> WildWizard: no :) i was trying to group,nick ! failed the command :)
[04:36] <vdv> tapbutton doesn't work
[04:36] <metrofox> vdv, you need to edit some hal configuration...
[04:36] <vdv> if i run "synaptec TapButton1=1"
[04:37] <metrofox> (if you use slackware 13)
[04:37] <vdv> then it begins working
[04:37] <vdv> sorry
[04:37] <vdv> synclient
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[04:37] <vdv> can't i specify option in xorg.conf?
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[04:40] <rworkman> vdv: <merge key="input.x11_options.TapButton1" type="string">1</merge>   <-- add that to x11-synaptics.fdi after copying the file from /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[04:41] <rworkman> vdv: re why it's not working by default, upstream disabled it by default on all hardware that has actual buttons coupled with the touchpad
[04:41] <vdv> ahh.. understood
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[04:41] <rworkman> btw, "synclient -l" will give you all options
[04:41] <vdv> thanks, rworkman
[04:41] <rworkman> yw
[04:43] <rworkman> IME, some of them don't lend well to configuring in the hal fdi file.  It's almost surely possible (and I just didn't take the time to figure out the exact syntax), but it was easier / less time-consuming to make a short script that calls synclient with the needed options and then call that script from my DE startup script
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[04:46] <metrofox> that would be great
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[04:48] <med\weed> god damn
[04:48] <med\weed> i fucking HATE ubutards
[04:48] <med\weed> THATS why im here
[04:52] <metrofox> I hate school, that's why I'm here
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[04:57] <spook> hehehe
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[04:58] <godling> oftc is sweet.
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[05:03] <metrofox> hi spook
[05:03] <metrofox> hi godling
[05:04] <spook> kernel code is complicated
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[05:06] <metrofox> there are no doubts about it =)
[05:07] <spook> i'm trying to work out why this isnt compiling, and what patch might fix it
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[05:10] <metrofox> what kernel version spook?
[05:10] <spook> 2.6.28.7, its linuxpmi stuff
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[05:32] <spook> woot i fixed a bug, i think.
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[05:35] <godling> or created one
[05:36] <init[1]> godling: lol
[05:37] <spook> godling: we'll see when i get this compiling
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[05:40] <metrofox> spook, does it compiles now?
[05:40] <metrofox> *compile sorry...
[05:40] <spook> it gets past the bit i 'fixed'
[05:40] <spook> now working on another bit
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[05:42] <Buggaboo> omg, homeoftheunderdogs is back!
[05:44] <spook> metrofox: another one fixed... i hope.
[05:44] <metrofox> spook, well done ;)
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[05:46] <godling> spook: hopefully you're not setting yourself up for an epic failure
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[05:46] <spook> godling: this is what patches and rcs is for :)
[05:46] <spook> git + quilt is a wonderful thing
[05:47] <godling> spook: are you working on the code because your developer is not?
[05:47] <metrofox> ahhh he's still working on kernel code :D
[05:47] <metrofox> I forgot that :P
[05:48] <spook> godling: shes sleeping, and because this is virgin territory, the x86_64 code was forwarded ported along with ppc and x86_32 but this is the first time the 64bit code has been attempted to be compiled.
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[05:51] <godling> fun
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[05:52] <godling> I'm resizing a virtualbox disk image. you're probably having more fun than I am.
[05:53] <spook> i'm way out of my depth
[05:53] <med\weed> lol
[05:53] <med\weed> having tons of fun then eh spook
[05:53] <vdv> kde4 is confusing a bit
[05:53] <metrofox> med\weed, are you american?
[05:54] <godling> spook: so you're saying your developer is going to wake up, look at the changes you made, and cry?
[05:54] <med\weed> metrofox: this box is, why?
[05:54] <metrofox> godling, yes, he's is
[05:54] <spook> godling: no shes going to cry, but tears of happiness.
[05:54] <med\weed> ahahahahaha
[05:54] <godling> spook: you hope
[05:54] <godling> :)
[05:55] <metrofox> med\weed, this box?
[05:55] <spook> godling: i'll email her my patches and she'll either say, good try this is all wrong, or yay spook you're fixing stuff
[05:55] <med\weed> the host box for the vps that the irc client is being run on is in america
[05:55] <med\weed> I'm somewhere
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[05:55] <metrofox> med\weed, I mean you, fisic, not your box..
[05:56] <med\weed> i know.... and i was nicely not answering because i didnt see the point
[05:56] <med\weed> no offense ;)
[05:56] <metrofox> med\weed, nevermind...
[05:56] <godling> metrofox: he's trying to be mysterious
[05:56] <med\weed> godling: i've yet to irc from home.
[05:56] <metrofox> godling, yeah :P
[05:56] <metrofox> med\weed, I was interested because I don't completely understand your english =)
[05:57] <med\weed> metrofox: ah - I dont bother much with proper grammer or punctuation. It's not that I am incapable, just i cant be arsed
[05:57] <med\weed> I type exactly how i talk.
[05:57] <med\weed> [mostly]
[05:58] <med\weed> which actually goes directly against exactly
[05:58] Action: med\weed sighs
[05:58] <med\weed> very similarly?
[05:58] <godling> med\weed: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/34754258_5006d2a967.jpg
[05:58] <metrofox> seen...? I didn't understand you this time too... :P
[05:58] <metrofox> I'm joking friend... I got the point(maybe...) :P
[05:59] <spook> yay fixed another problem, i think
[05:59] <med\weed> omg ty godling
[05:59] <vdv> how can i test sound without a audio file? i forgot.. that was combination of aplay and arecord..
[05:59] <metrofox> spook, fixed another problem != making a different one...
[05:59] <metrofox> ahah :P
[05:59] <spook> metrofox: yup
[05:59] <Camarade_Tux> morning gals :)
[05:59] <med\weed> http://content.funnyhumor.com/pictures/milk.jpg @ godling - nws
[05:59] <metrofox> hi Camarade_Tux
[05:59] <med\weed> [one boob]
[05:59] <godling> what's up sugartits?
[06:00] Action: godling doesn't click
[06:00] Action: Camarade_Tux takes godling's hand and clicks
[06:00] <med\weed> http://northoftheriver.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/got-milk.jpg [sfw]
[06:00] Action: metrofox is looking at godling face right now... He seems to be excited
[06:00] <med\weed> lulz
[06:00] <metrofox> godling's face
[06:01] <med\weed> gah i'll be excited in like 30 min
[06:01] <med\weed> friggan ftp is taking FOREVER
[06:01] <med\weed> and ive managed to be banned in two chans with this client
[06:01] <med\weed> not even a record
[06:01] <med\weed> ~_~
[06:01] <ikonia> why is that a brag ?
[06:01] <med\weed> ikonia: its not ?
[06:01] <metrofox> this is gonna be the third don't worry med\weed
[06:01] <med\weed> metrofox: o thank god
[06:01] <metrofox> :P
[06:02] <med\weed> if we could add a few dozen into that we might get somewhere
[06:02] <med\weed> like the time i was connected to 400chans across 8 nets i think it was
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[06:02] <med\weed> and my inet was discoing every 10 min?
[06:02] <med\weed> omg
[06:02] <metrofox> let's ban him!
[06:02] <med\weed> i was banned in something like 200 chans just to keep the join/part down :P
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[06:02] <godling> s/ban/pity/
[06:02] <med\weed> awwwwwww
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[06:03] <med\weed> godling's being nicer!~
[06:03] <med\weed> cookies and pity?
[06:03] <med\weed> awesome!
[06:03] <med\weed> well... a cookie..
[06:03] <med\weed> without milk
[06:03] <metrofox> milk... without tits...
[06:03] <med\weed> but pity goes a long way :P
[06:03] <med\weed> ===============~~~~ brb
[06:03] <metrofox> is that an ASCII art?
[06:06] Action: metrofox is looking at men screaming down the street... Maybe there'll be a fight soon... He's picking pop-corns...
[06:07] <Camarade_Tux> what time is it for you?
[06:08] <metrofox> 12.08 a.m.
[06:08] <Camarade_Tux> where do you live?
[06:08] <metrofox> Italy
[06:09] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm, so yeah, there might be a fight :P
[06:09] <spook> i might have something that is gonna compile fully here.
[06:09] <metrofox> uuuu
[06:09] <metrofox> SCREAMS
[06:10] <med\weed> thats just me runnin for a smoke
[06:10] <med\weed> toke comes with colors
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[06:13] <myeggo> hello
[06:13] <myeggo> i have installed slackware on virtualbox
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[06:13] <myeggo> and i cant get gnome or kde
[06:13] <myeggo> i did a standard installation
[06:13] <psibian> i am trying to build packages, could some one tell me how to add description and license to the package
[06:13] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: well, if you're not running a very old version, you won't get gnome anyway, kde is another matter
[06:14] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: how do you try to get kde?
[06:14] <spook> psibian: http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script
[06:15] <vdv> i run alsamixer and seems that sound chip is recognized correctly, there are some controls, but still no sound
[06:15] <vdv> HDA Intel
[06:15] <myeggo> i dont mind if gnome or kde, i just installed it with the latest version available, i only want any desktop
[06:15] <vdv> IDT 92HD75
[06:15] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: which slackware version? and what does 'lspci |grep HD' return?
[06:15] <myeggo> when i installed it, it let me choose the package of gnome and kde, but both doesnt works
[06:15] <Camarade_Tux> ok
[06:15] <myeggo> or well, i dont know how to run them
[06:15] <vdv> 13.0
[06:16] <metrofox> myeggo, I'll never see GNOME on slackware
[06:16] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: no, it can't have let you chose gnome
[06:16] <vdv> Intel 82801H
[06:16] <vdv> ICH8
[06:16] <psibian> spook, i am making the actual txz file,
[06:16] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm, I have the same card and sound has been working for >1 year
[06:17] <vdv> laptop?
[06:17] <metrofox> myeggo, you made a full installation on slackware during the installation wizard?
[06:17] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: have you ran alsaconf?
[06:17] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: yep
[06:17] <vdv> nope
[06:17] <Camarade_Tux> well, try that :)
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[06:17] <vdv> ok
[06:18] <myeggo> yes metrofox
[06:18] <metrofox> myeggo, well, so you installed the entire KDE environment
[06:18] <vdv> should i modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound?
[06:18] <myeggo> its ok, i like kde too
[06:18] <myeggo> but how can i run it?
[06:18] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: alsaconf will do everything you need
[06:18] <myeggo> i only get console
[06:18] <vdv> seems that alsaconf found the card
[06:19] <metrofox> myeggo
[06:19] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: 'startx'
[06:19] <metrofox> startx?
[06:19] <Camarade_Tux> (run startx that is)
[06:19] <myeggo> sec, i will paste what i get
[06:19] <metrofox> yeah...
[06:19] <Camarade_Tux> use a pastebin myeggo
[06:20] <myeggo> yes, np
[06:20] <metrofox> you'll get KDE4 desktop(unless you made a dirty installation)
[06:20] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: and try "xorgsetup" first
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[06:21] <myeggo> well, startx command not found
[06:21] <myeggo> i didnt use install CD 2
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[06:21] <myeggo> im so dumb, right?
[06:21] <metrofox> well...
[06:22] <myeggo> same for xorgsetup
[06:22] <Camarade_Tux> myeggo: hmmm, yes? :P
[06:22] <metrofox> myeggo, if you wanna run a system you'll have to install all the system, not just a piece of it
[06:22] <vdv> alsaconfi didn't help
[06:22] <vdv> still no sound
[06:22] <myeggo> i thought 1cd could be enough
[06:22] <myeggo> but ok... im downloading the rest
[06:23] <vdv> inspite two lines in /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[06:23] <vdv> which alsaconfi added
[06:23] <metrofox> sorenp, download the DVD or all CDs(if you already done it) and install it/them
[06:23] <vdv> Camarade_Tux, which laptop do you have?
[06:23] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: check alsamixer again, how does it look like? any vertical bar with 'MM' at the bottom
[06:23] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: asus f3sv
[06:23] <metrofox> Camarade_Tux, how do you fell with your asus? =)
[06:24] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: try modprobe'ing the two modules by hand?
[06:24] <godling> myeggo: You should check what is included in the package groups :P
[06:24] <Camarade_Tux> metrofox: well, it fell from the sky :D
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[06:24] <vdv> which modules?
[06:25] <metrofox> Camarade_Tux, is it a good or a bad thing? :P
[06:26] <myeggo> slackware 12 or 13?
[06:26] <myeggo> in some mirror doesnt exists 13
[06:26] <vdv> i bought HP Compaq Q 610
[06:26] <vdv> it's awful
[06:26] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: the ones added to /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[06:27] <vdv> ugly laptop
[06:27] <med\weed> yay - iso done downloading.... ::goes to find the usb burner::
[06:27] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: he :P
[06:28] <godling> myeggo: http://www.slackware.com/install/softwaresets.php
[06:28] <myeggo> thanks
[06:28] <godling> myeggo: and http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php will tell you what package sets are available on each disk
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[06:30] <myeggo> the first 4 cds are enough i guess
[06:30] <myeggo> i dont need the source of kde and the usb installers
[06:30] <myeggo> right?
[06:30] <med\weed> up to you?
[06:30] <med\weed> Why not just torrent the dvd iso?
[06:31] <metrofox> the... source?
[06:31] <myeggo> i have downloaded the first cd and i have not so fast bandwitch
[06:31] <myeggo> and i only want first steps on slackware
[06:31] <med\weed> then you may do better setting up your repositories than downloading more disks
[06:32] <vdv> Camerade_Tux: which kernel?
[06:32] <metrofox> myeggo, there's not KDE source(I guess)
[06:32] <vdv> how many controls do you see in alsamixer?
[06:32] <metrofox> myeggo, simplest thing you can do is to install slackware completely, all CDs or all DVD...
[06:34] <myeggo> ok, im downloading the dvd
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[06:36] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: 2.6.29.6 supports your chip (actually 2.6.26 does too), I've also used 2.6.30 and now 2.6.32 without problem
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[06:36] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: so, are the modules loaded?
[06:36] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude!
[06:36] Action: slackytude waves
[06:36] Action: Camarade_Tux waves back
[06:36] <slackytude> y0 Camarade_Tux
[06:36] <metrofox> y0 slackytude
[06:36] <vdv> modules loaded
[06:37] <vdv> but still no sound
[06:37] <slackytude> this day is going to be annoying
[06:37] <slackytude> y0 metrofox
[06:37] <metrofox> slackytude, mine too...
[06:37] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: and alsamixer?
[06:37] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: why?
[06:37] <slackytude> Im trying to get my family to choose a resturant all agree on
[06:37] Action: Camarade_Tux codes
[06:37] <vdv> looks strange
[06:37] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: hahaha :P
[06:37] <slackytude> coz its me birthday
[06:37] <Camarade_Tux> happy birthday slackytude! :P
[06:37] <slackytude> eh
[06:38] <slackytude> thx
[06:38] <metrofox> slackytude, happy birthday!
[06:38] <slackytude> metrofox, thx
[06:38] <slackytude> right now, Im thinking McDonalds
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[06:38] <metrofox> slackytude, O.O
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[06:38] <metrofox> tasty...
[06:39] <winter> slackytude: so what, macdonalds?
[06:39] <slackytude> winter, nobody can agree on some damn resturant
[06:39] <metrofox> slackytude, how are macdonalds in the US?
[06:39] <slackytude> I swear, next year Ill just go on a vacation
[06:39] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: for your birthday: a girl out of a giant birthday cake: http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/20306.jpg :)
[06:39] <slackytude> metrofox, I dunno, Im from Germany, mate
[06:40] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, thx, I guess.
[06:40] <slackytude> looks like my ex
[06:40] <metrofox> slackytude, yes, in Germany...
[06:40] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: ^^
[06:40] <metrofox> :O that girl is so sexy...!!!
[06:40] <slackytude> metrofox, how am I supposed to know how the MD in US is then
[06:41] <med\weed> l m f a o Camarade_Tux
[06:41] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, anything new from your mushroom friend?
[06:41] <godling> McDonald's is pretty shitty.
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[06:41] <med\weed> Aye
[06:41] <metrofox> slackytude, I didn't know you com from Germany(I knew, I just didn't remember) :P
[06:41] <metrofox> *come
[06:42] <slackytude> metrofox, you are from Italy, right?
[06:42] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: no, we're not dating each other! :P
[06:42] <metrofox> slackytude, yes I'm...
[06:42] <med\weed> s/come/cum in/
[06:42] <Camarade_Tux> hmmmmm
[06:42] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, yeah, but you like her
[06:42] <med\weed> ok ok j/k {i hope not}
[06:43] <sahko> wow the battery of my laptop lasted only 1:30 hour. it usually makes it up to 2 under normal circumstances
[06:43] <sahko> with KDE4*
[06:43] <sahko> normal circumstances dont include KDE
[06:44] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: die ^^
[06:44] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, tsk tsk
[06:45] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: I don't! :P
[06:46] <Camarade_Tux> sahko: :)
[06:46] Action: Camarade_Tux switches back to desk3 and codes
[06:46] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, eh, you dont? I doubt that. But if you dont wanna talk aboot it, thats fine
[06:49] <Camarade_Tux> ok, you get away with that today but only because it's your birthday -_-
[06:49] <Camarade_Tux> (actually you would any day...)
[06:49] <slackytude> ^-^
[06:49] <vdv> running /etc/rc.d/alsa restart says "Unknown hardware"
[06:50] <vdv> Hardware is initialized using guess method
[06:50] Action: metrofox is gonna have lunch! see ya later
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[06:51] <slackytude> see ya metrofox
[06:51] <slackytude> what is a metrofox anyway? a urban fox, which uses the metro to get around?
[06:51] <Camarade_Tux> dvd: you said alsamixer looked weird but you didn't give any more detail, what do you get?
[06:52] <Camarade_Tux> err, vdv...
[06:52] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: I'm sure there is something sexual -_-
[06:52] <vdv> seems that snd-hda-intel doesn't recognized card
[06:52] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, I shall ask when he is back
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[06:53] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: then, have you checked dmesg?
[06:54] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: right now he's busy eating some salad -_-
[06:54] <slackytude> now Im thinking about, some Italian restaraunt may do the trick. there is a new one around
[06:54] <vdv> Camarade_Tux: after loading module?
[06:55] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: yes
[06:56] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: or you say it's your birthday and they have to chose without you :)
[06:56] <vdv> no msgs
[06:56] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, doesnt work, I tried
[06:57] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: hehe :P
[06:57] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: dmesg |grep snd
[06:57] <vdv> nothing
[06:59] <med\weed> ok
[06:59] <med\weed> any way to install this bastard from inside windows?
[06:59] <med\weed> other distros have say wubi?
[07:00] <Camarade_Tux> yes, there are ways? easy and reliable ones? no
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[07:00] <Camarade_Tux> vdv: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[07:01] <vdv> of course
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[07:02] <vdv> http://pastebin.com/m6f43fad5
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[07:04] <Camarade_Tux> huh, your dmesg hasn't changed since the end of the boot sequence
[07:04] <vdv> yep
[07:04] <vdv> only mounting flash
[07:04] <Camarade_Tux> vdv have you put your computer to sleep?
[07:04] <vdv> msg for sdb1 device
[07:05] <vdv> no
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[07:06] <Camarade_Tux> errr, your dmesg looks weird
[07:06] <Camarade_Tux> can you try a reboot?
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[07:07] <slackytude> good god
[07:08] <slackytude> someone reserved a table in the greek resturant
[07:08] <vdv> Camarade_Tux: i'll try it, have to wait until 2.6.30 is built
[07:11] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: The_Croupier? :D
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[07:13] <slackytude> Camarade_Tux, heh, no, husband of me sister
[07:14] <Camarade_Tux> your sister is married to The_Croupier? :o
[07:14] <slackytude> no, not really
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[07:17] <med\weed> Camarade_Tux: i'm not worried about easy
[07:17] <med\weed> 'decently documented' should be fine
[07:19] <Camarade_Tux> med\weed: you want to install on the same partition or on another one?
[07:20] <med\weed> Camarade_Tux: i'd prefer to wipe the windows
[07:20] <med\weed> if i could find the dvd burner this wouldnt be an issue
[07:20] <med\weed> god let me look again
[07:20] <med\weed> but tell me anyway
[07:20] <med\weed> good to know
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[07:20] <Camarade_Tux> med\weed: actually wubi doesn't even do that, so reboot and install :P
[07:21] <med\weed> Camarade_Tux: i can find one that does
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[07:21] <Camarade_Tux> I used to know how you _could_ do it but I've completely forgotten since :)
[07:21] <med\weed> ok anyone ELSE?
[07:22] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm, wubi does even less that I thought
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[07:23] <Camarade_Tux> (although I remembered it was mostly hype, nothing moe)
[07:23] <Camarade_Tux> *more
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[07:23] <med\weed> yeah
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[07:23] <med\weed> there we go
[07:24] <med\weed> goodbye-microsoft.com -> resize+grub+linux partition -> easy
[07:24] <med\weed> iirc
[07:28] <metrofox> cool goodbye-microsoft.com
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[07:32] <med\weed> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". hahahaha
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[07:36] <med\weed> yeah something's got to be done about this
[07:36] <med\weed> some sort of netboot that will allow you to [while netbooted] write iso to ram and mount
[07:37] <med\weed> say you gotta have 2GB ram or something to do it... cd iso would work..
[07:37] <med\weed> friggan sigh
[07:37] <med\weed> shoot a netboot iso would be enough
[07:37] <med\weed> wubilike -> toram netboot -> destructive install
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[07:41] <Camarade_Tux> http://electronicdesign.com/Globals/PlanetEE/Content/4964.html hahaha :P
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[07:46] <g4tt0> hi
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[07:50] <Buggaboo> hey
[07:51] <Buggaboo> does cron.* work out of the box or do I have to tweak something to get it going?
[07:51] <slackytude> it works
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[08:11] <plee> does anyone know if rtorrent can be setup as a daemon?
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[08:16] <slackytude> plee, you can just launch it in the background...
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[08:18] <plee> slackytude, yeah, but looking at setting it up on my fileserver, and use the watch function, and it would be nice if I can set it up so that it starts when the server starts.. But I found the wiki now, so I'll look into it. :)
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[08:18] <slackytude> add it to rc.local
[08:18] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy
[08:18] <slackytude> why the watch functiom?
[08:19] <thrice`> otherwise, this is a nice app:  http://www.murmeldjur.se/btpd/
[08:19] <rg3> in any case, if the program doesn't have a "daemon" mode, it can be launched with "screen" to do it
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[08:19] <slackytude> or setsid or nohup
[08:20] <rg3> i prefer screen because you're able to reattach and see what the program is printing
[08:20] <rg3> screen -d -m whatever
[08:20] <slackytude> sure, screen is nice
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[08:21] <plee> slackytude, because I'm lazy. hehe
[08:22] <slackytude> eh?
[08:23] <plee> yeah.. never mind :)
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[08:28] <plee> thrice`, looking at it now :) might be what I need :)
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[08:36] <TwinReverb> .
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[08:38] <Camarade_Tux> ..
[08:38] <Camarade_Tux> .Xauthority
[08:39] <Camarade_Tux> .Xdefaults
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[08:39] <Camarade_Tux> (we're playing 'ls -a', right?)
[08:39] <TwinReverb> .xstfu -> /dev/null
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[08:40] <Camarade_Tux> nah, it's .Xdefault~ after that :)
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[08:40] Action: TwinReverb .Xstabs Camarade_Tux 
[08:40] <Camarade_Tux>  \o/
[08:44] <med\weed> ha
[08:44] <med\weed> foudn me another box with a dvd writer in it
[08:44] <med\weed> burnnin tha iso now \o/~
[08:45] Action: slackytude has just read about the Sidekick debacle
[08:46] <med\weed> so turns out we're installing on an e5200 /w 3GB ram - dual mons on nvidia - cant wait
[08:46] <slackytude> looks like MS screwed that up big time
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[08:46] <med\weed> slackytude: eh?
[08:46] <slackytude> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/10/11/0335210/Server-Failure-Destroys-Sidekick-Users-Backup-Data
[08:46] <slackytude> http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/10/09/exclusive-pink-danger-leaks-from-microsofts-windows-phone/
[08:46] <slackytude> http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/10/05/microsofts-project-pink-might-be-dead-in-the-water/
[08:47] <slackytude> its epic in its fail
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[08:47] <med\weed> HAHAHAHAHA
[08:47] <med\weed> slackytude: not that epic
[08:47] <med\weed> just normal day to day business
[08:47] <med\weed> its about time
[08:47] <med\weed> they need a few more of these
[08:48] <med\weed> i really dont wanna lose my 'non-trusted' compute platform
[08:48] <slackytude> med\weed, they lost all consumer data for their cloud service. which they abandonded without telling the partner who relies on it
[08:49] <slackytude> and their new phone project is dead in the water and they managed to piss off many of their partners with it
[08:49] <slackytude> its hard to say what else could have gone wrong
[08:49] <slackytude> if the rumors are true that is
[08:49] <init[1]> :D
[08:49] <init[1]> :(
[08:49] <med\weed> http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/what-caused-the-sidekick-fail haha
[08:49] <slackytude> y0 incucullo
[08:49] <slackytude> bah
[08:49] <slackytude> y0 init[1]
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[08:50] <portia> hi guys, I'm trying to run /etc/rc.d/rc.vbodrv setup but what I get is: "Not implemented! Please use the virtualbox-kernel.Slackbuild available at Slagbuilds.org instead. (I have already installed all 4 available virtualbox packages through sbopkg. What am I supposed to do? Thanks
[08:50] <portia> sorry for the typos
[08:50] <boxxoq> all how to install SMART package manager? it seems that it's unavailable in the office repository. should I try slackbuilds? Thanks.
[08:51] <thrice`> portia: you have the vbox-kernel package installed, and it was compiled against the kernel you are running now?
[08:51] <portia> @thrice, Yes, I installed it through sbopkg - which I assume installed it correctly
[08:51] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm, import doesn't want to take the window borders for a screenshot
[08:51] <Camarade_Tux> ah, -frame
[08:52] <init[1]> slackytude: y0 ,i was reading those links ;)
[08:52] <Camarade_Tux> now it only takes the frame :)
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[08:53] <portia> ls /var/log/packages shows virtualbox-kernel virtualbox-kernel-addons virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-addons
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[08:53] <Camarade_Tux> slackytude: http://omploader.org/vMml1Zw/woooooooooooooo.png ! \o/
[08:53] <alisonken1hom2> Yo TwinReverb
[08:53] <Camarade_Tux> (yes, it lacks window borders but still, it's my browser ;) )
[08:54] <TwinReverb> yo
[08:54] <alisonken1hom2> how
[08:54] <alisonken1hom2> s things on your end of the world
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[08:55] <init[1]> Camarade_Tux: France's national research institute for computer science, since 1985. ! Indeed :)
[08:55] <portia> Is virtualbox-kernel a separate kernel with vbox modules that needs to be booted into or is it just a script with modules to insert into a running kernel?
[08:56] <adamk_> portia, It just produces modules against the current kernel.
[08:58] <portia> The relevant modules seem to be loaded: VirtualBox kernel modules (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt and vboxnetadp) are loaded.
[08:58] <Camarade_Tux> init[1]: :P
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[08:59] <portia> I can start vbox but it is quite slow and warns me that I need to run vboxdrv setup everytime.
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[09:04] <pprkut> portia: do *NOT* install virtualbox-*-addons packages on the host!!!
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[09:06] <portia> pprkut: why is that?
[09:06] <Camarade_Tux> because you install them on the guest
[09:06] <portia> ok
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[09:07] <pprkut> it's mentioned in the README as well
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[09:18] <hrad> hey, I don't know why, but mysql in slackware 13.0 doesn't listen on any port ...I spent 3 hours by figuring out why, but I simply can't see any reason
[09:19] <hrad> does anybody have experience with this ?
[09:21] <pprkut> hrad: read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld
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[09:45] <a750mhzslinky> Morning all
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[09:46] <myeggo> hey, kdebindings supports tcl language?
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[09:47] <pprkut> myeggo: don't think so
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[09:52] <med\weed> hey
[09:52] <med\weed> so i just installed the bastard
[09:52] <med\weed> told it i wanted kde as default
[09:52] <thrice`> it's better to say things like "slackware"
[09:52] <med\weed> and it shoots me to a friggan console
[09:52] <Scuzz> startx
[09:52] <thrice`> otherwise, we confuse you (wrongly?) for someone who is mindless
[09:53] <adamk_> Did you change the default run level in /etc/inittab ?
[09:53] <med\weed> thrice`: thanks for speaking for apparently the entire world
[09:53] <med\weed> adamk_: hey thanks
[09:53] <med\weed> first pure slack install -using the 13 32bit
[09:53] <med\weed> just what do i gotta do to setup kdm to autostart?
[09:53] <med\weed> and i need to add a user
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[09:54] <thrice`> adduser for your user, and /etc/inittab controls the runlevel
[09:54] <med\weed> k bbiab
[09:54] <mingdao> oahong: l
Þe„
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[09:55] <Scuzz> that would make a nice root password
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[09:56] <mingdao> wouldn't get popped by a dict editor anyway  ;)
[09:56] <mingdao> how are you Scuzz?
[09:56] <Scuzz> im good
[09:56] <Scuzz> how are you today
[09:56] <mingdao> just about to end this one
[09:57] <mingdao> but good ...
[09:58] <mingdao> his quit message basically said "be right back"
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[10:00] <Scuzz> anyone know how to have a user auto login to kde ?
[10:00] <StevenR> Scuzz: configure kdm to autologin
[10:00] <StevenR> in kde control center
[10:00] <Scuzz> thank you sir
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[10:02] <Scuzz> where is kde controll center ??
[10:02] <Scuzz> kdm sorry
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[10:14] <mrselfpwn> anyone familar if there is a package that includes cryptlib?
[10:14] <Scuzz> thanx StevenR , i found the login managaer under the system settings advanced tab
[10:16] <mingdao> mrselfpwn: do you mean libcrypt?
[10:19] <mrselfpwn> mingdao: probably the same thing.
[10:19] <mingdao> mrselfpwn: issue "grep "libcrypt" /var/log/packages/*"
[10:21] <mrselfpwn> mingdao: when attempting to use syncterm to connect to and ssh server I get "Cannont load cryptlib - SSH inoperative" though the command you had me run does produce results.
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[10:28] <mrselfpwn> mingdao: i got it to work
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[10:29] <mrselfpwn> i found a src package that had libcl.so (cryptlib) copied that file to /usr/lib/ and then did export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libcl.so
[10:29] <mrselfpwn> it connected :)
[10:30] <myeggo> 2 hours installing packages
[10:30] <myeggo> is this normal? :(
[10:30] <mrselfpwn> depends on what you are installing
[10:30] <mrselfpwn> what are you doing?
[10:30] <myeggo> slackware 13 from dvd on virtualbox
[10:31] <mrselfpwn> it's not normal for a typical harddisk install though I don't know about virtualbox.
[10:31] <mrselfpwn> How much ram did you allocate?
[10:31] <myeggo> 512mb
[10:31] <Camarade_Tux> virtualbox can slow things down a lot
[10:31] <myeggo> yes i feel so
[10:31] <Camarade_Tux> especially disk I/O actually
[10:32] <Camarade_Tux> and since xz is also more cpu-intensive, it will incur an additional slowdown :)
[10:32] <pprkut> you should be able to use a sata-controller, which should speed things up a bit
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[10:33] <pprkut> by default, vbox uses an ide-controller for its harddisks
[10:33] <myeggo> well, 100% most of time
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[10:33] <Dominian> pprkut: They give SATA controller access in OSE yet?
[10:33] <pprkut> Dominian: runs smoothly here :)
[10:33] <Dominian> pprkut: nice
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[10:35] <pprkut> indeed
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[10:49] <Old_Spike0> What kind of animal is that of the initial screen in Slack 13? A wolverine, maybe?
[10:49] <BP{k}> Old_Spike0: tasmanian devil.
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[10:51] <Old_Spike0> Cool! Thanks BP{k}
[10:51] <BP{k}> Old_Spike0: Tuz was the mascot of the 2009 linux.conf.au conference. It has been chosen by Linus Torvalds as the logo for version 2.6.29 of the Linux kernel to support the effort to save the Tasmanian devil species from extinction due to the Devil facial tumour disease. http://lwn.net/Articles/323966/
[10:51] <Scuzz> looks like a rat with a fake beak
[10:51] <NaCl> It is. :P
[10:52] <NaCl> Well, It's a tasmaian devel with a fake beak.
[10:52] <yban> hi all .. I'm getting this : FATAL: Module loop not found : ? thnkx++
[10:53] <thrice`> yban: run:  "zgrep DEV_LOOP /proc/config.gz"
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[10:54] <thrice`> plz++?
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[10:54] <tank-man> think++
[10:55] <yban> thrice : thanks ..I'll try it
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[11:02] <yban> thrice : thanks ..it's enable in my .config ..
[11:03] <yban> thrice : thanks ..it's enabled in my .config .. do I have 2 run that ?
[11:03] <thrice`> no, I was just checking if you had support for loopback :)
[11:04] <yban> thrice : how can i fix it ?
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[11:12] <yban> thrice : is there any doc/link ?
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[11:13] <BP{k}> yban: it is probably a good idea, if you explain in the first place what exactly you are doing or want to do. Right now, you've asked about one thing without context which you already confirmed is "enabled" (whatever the hell that means (ie is it a module, is it compiled in the kernel)?
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[11:18] <yban> BP{k} : I'm trying to create livecd : linux-live script I compiled aufs ..when i do build I see this : FATAL: Module loop not found :
[11:20] <winter> modprobe loop?
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[11:21] <NaCl> yban: yeah, you need loopback device support in the kernel
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[11:22] <NaCl> "Module loop"... they should really put the module name in quotes.
[11:22] <whiten0ise> good grief, going through every single system package takes forever
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[11:26] <yban> /sbin/modprobe loop > FATAL: Module loop not found ..bty I used /boot/config
[11:27] <NaCl> It needs to be a module
[11:27] <winter> yban: cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig
[11:27] <NaCl> The default config file has a ton of stuff compiled in.
[11:28] <winter> right
[11:28] <winter> not config
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[11:29] <winter> yban: change your kernel or compile another
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[11:29] <yban> I'll change kernel ..what I have to do after make menuconfig : where to go & what to do next !?
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[11:30] <winter> yban: use google
[11:31] <winter> i cannot lead you trough the whole process of configuration
[11:32] <winter> besides there are tons of stuff in default config
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[11:33] <yban> thanks All .. I'll googling
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[11:35] <whiten0ise> if i'm going to do 'useradd -d /home/whitenoise whitenoise'
[11:35] <whiten0ise> does /home/whitenoise need to previously exist?
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[11:35] <whiten0ise> i.e. i need to create it before i do that
[11:35] <NaCl> I dnon't think sao.
[11:35] <NaCl> I've always used adduser
[11:35] <whiten0ise> adduser doesn't work for me
[11:36] <whiten0ise> i didn't install gawk, so adduser can't work. and none of the groups from the UP arrow exist.
[11:36] <NaCl> Oh, fun.
[11:37] <hiptobecubic> whiten0ise, why not install gawk?
[11:37] <whiten0ise> i installed almost nothing
[11:37] <mesa_booger> that would be too easy
[11:37] <BP{k}> so wouldn't installing gawk and rerunning adduser be the smarter choice?
[11:37] <whiten0ise> there's nothing wrong with useradd
[11:37] <BP{k}> whiten0ise: then there is nothing wrong with man useradd. :)
[11:38] <whiten0ise> which i am reading right now, thanks
[11:38] <mesa_booger> not having important, required stuff like gawk installed is just plain idiocy. but what do i know ?
[11:38] <BP{k}> mesa_booger++
[11:39] <whiten0ise> i could put the CD in, do 'setup' and then install just gawk from the CD, couldn't i?
[11:39] <whiten0ise> apparently not.
[11:39] <NaCl> You could also installpkg /mnt/cdrom/slackware/a/gawk*.txz
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[11:40] <init[1]> whiten0ise: cd to the slackware/ and do a recursive install it install all ;)
[11:41] <init[1]> /s/it install/   /
[11:41] <whiten0ise> that would defeat the purpose of picking your packages, to install all
[11:41] <init[1]> whiten0ise: but you failed to install the requred stuff !
[11:41] Action: NaCl installs everything but emacs and kdei by default
[11:42] <mesa_booger> and what exactly is the point of picking packages, when you don't know their significance ?
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[11:42] <BP{k}> mesa_booger: dammit .. stop making my points :=]
[11:42] <whiten0ise> i know most of them, and if i didn't i left them. gawk is the only one here.
[11:42] <mesa_booger> sowwy
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[11:43] <whiten0ise> thus, i will install gawk and you can hold such thoughts.
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[11:45] <mesa_booger> an old trick, but it only works if atime is enabled. install everything, then periodically check the atimes on all the executables and libraries. those that you don't use, ditch them. simple and automatic, no guesswork
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[11:47] <agentc0re> mornin all
[11:47] <hitest> morning agentc0re
[11:48] <BP{k}> agentc0re: morning.
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[11:56] <silent> How do I get soundKonverter to build using the kde3-compat files?  I'm using --with-qt3-dir=/opt/kde3/lib/qt3 --with-qt3-includes=/opt/kde3/lib/qt3/include --with-qt-libraries=/opt/kde3/lib/qt3/lib but it still uses /usr/lib/qt/include/QtCore.  I've seen some examples of using --with-qt-includes=/opt/kde3/lib/at/include but I don't have that dir.
[11:57] <whiten0ise> there are no files in my /mnt/cdrom
[11:58] <W|GGL|T> mannnn
[12:01] <Kowalczyk> hi. Im having problem with ipv6 on slackware... I have done modprobe ipv6 and done this: http://ipv6.pastebin.com/m56117210 and added a ip with ip addr add ip/64 dev eth0
[12:01] <Kowalczyk> but it doesnt work. how can I fix this in slackware?
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[12:06] <Kowalczyk> the slackware is running in vmware. I also use the tunnel on another machine.. and it works on debian.
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[12:11] <sirmacik> Hi \o
[12:12] <mrselfpwn>  hi
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[12:12] <sirmacik> another 'package' question... does anybody knows something about newest emacs packages for slackware? [;
[12:13] <sirmacik> mean 23.1 version
[12:13] <mancha> what does "know something" mean? :>
[12:14] <sirmacik> [; so, has something to say aobout the topic of question ;x
[12:14] <sirmacik> * about
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[12:14] <mancha> what does the question mean?
[12:14] <mrselfpwn> what?
[12:14] <sirmacik> -.-
[12:15] <sirmacik> I'm asking for slackware package with emacs in version 23.1
[12:15] <mancha> ok, if you notice slackware official packages sometimes lag the latest versions on things, have you noticed that?
[12:16] <sirmacik> of course
[12:16] <sirmacik> but sometimes someone has newer packages in his own  repository
[12:16] <mancha> ok so then the question should be "has anyone packaged emacs 23.1?" or similar.
[12:17] <sirmacik> my bad, sorry [;
[12:17] <mrselfpwn> It would be easy to get the ebuild from ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/e/emacs/ and manipulate it for 23.1.
[12:17] <mrselfpwn>  /fail
[12:17] <mrselfpwn> s/ebuild/slackbuild
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[12:18] <mancha>  /part #gentoo
[12:18] <mancha> oops
[12:18] <sirmacik> [;
[12:18] <mrselfpwn> wasn't thinking gentoo was thinking emacs + slackbuild = ebuild
[12:18] <mancha> emacs is so big they deserve their own build-script name anyways :)
[12:19] <mrselfpwn> yeah, heheh
[12:21] <init[1]> does slackware ship with any svn frontend ?
[12:21] <mancha> svn
[12:22] <init[1]> huh!
[12:22] <init[1]> mancha: gui frontend!
[12:22] <mancha> you didn't say that!
[12:22] <init[1]> :-/, mancha i thought you were intelligent enough to understand the :-/
[12:23] Action: init[1] :D
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[12:23] <mancha> language is very precise, intelligent doesn't mean read one things and assume the writer meant another thing
[12:23] <agentc0re> lol, svn frontend.  You thought he was intelligent enough to understand your inability to communicate properly?
[12:24] <init[1]> yes agentc0re !
[12:24] <mancha> i'm intelligent enough to have him on my ignore list from now on
[12:24] Action: agentc0re slaps init[1] to init[6]
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[12:24] <init[1]> mancha: me ? :(
[12:25] <hiptobecubic> mancha, natural language is NOT very precise and human to human communication is hugely based on assuming things mean something other than their literal interpretation
[12:25] Action: init[1] \o/
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[12:27] <winter> yeah, literal interpretation
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[12:30] <feng> Hu, is there a 64bit system guru here ? I need information about how to transform a 32bits distro to a 64 one
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[12:38] <errordeveloper> how to do `basename ${PWD}` in a Makefile ??
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[12:40] Action: init[1] now installing thunar svn plugin 
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[12:41] <hiptobecubic> woooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:42] <hitest> lol
[12:42] <mrselfpwn> oh cool, a thunar svn plugin?
[12:42] Action: mrselfpwn checks that out.
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[12:43] <hiptobecubic> booo
[12:44] <jonathanr> boo to you too
[12:44] <init[1]> mrselfpwn: yes :)
[12:44] <hiptobecubic> boo svn AND booo thunar plugin for it
[12:44] <init[1]> hiptobecubic: boo?
[12:44] <feng> still no plugin to get a tabbed thunar ??
[12:45] <mrselfpwn> init[1]: I got the thunar-vcs-plugin.  handles git as well as svn
[12:45] <winter> get the newest thunar?
[12:45] <init[1]> mrselfpwn: yes indeed , other fronts have deps that i don't have :(
[12:45] <mrselfpwn> oh, :)
[12:46] <init[1]> wxwidget and qt3
[12:46] <init[1]> rapidsvn
[12:46] <mrselfpwn> tabbed thunar?? i'm there man
[12:46] <winter> err, sry, i'm wrong, no tabs in thunar
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[12:47] <mrselfpwn> damnit
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[12:47] <feng> thunar > nautilus ; but tabs make difference :'(
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[12:47] <mrselfpwn> yes.  it's the only thing thunar lacks that i like.
[12:48] <mrselfpwn> pcfileman just isn't as good.
[12:48] <hiptobecubic> My thunar has some kind of issue. Deleting things may or may not grind the entire system to a halt.
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[12:48] <hiptobecubic> deleting by cli is fine though, so who knows
[12:48] <winter> Terminal + mc + tabs = <3
[12:48] <mrselfpwn> hiptobecubic: maybe a gtk missing theme issue?
[12:49] <hiptobecubic> hm
[12:49] <mrselfpwn> try running thunar from cli and see if it spits out any errors on a delete
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[12:51] <hiptobecubic> mrselfpwn, and it's taking over a minute to display the contents of an empty folder
[12:51] <mrselfpwn> yes, i actually use mc over thunar now to be honest for deleting/moving files, but for browsing i use thunar.
[12:52] <mrselfpwn> hiptobecubic: i had a similar problem once one slackware 12.2 and it appeared to be related to some missing gtk theme/item.
[12:52] <mrselfpwn> but i didn't have the problem with deleting.
[12:55] <feng> no one know how to transform a 32bits distro to a 64bits one ??
[12:55] <winter> basicly, it's using thunar atm is a bit pointles because of poor amount of nice functions that a graphical file manager should support
[12:55] <winter> s/it's//
[12:55] <W|GGL|T> feng: the easier way would be to just install a 64-bit OS right off the bat, afaik
[12:56] <winter> especially if it comes with a *graphical environment*
[12:56] <W|GGL|T> i'm thinking it isn't trivial to just add 64-bit functionality to a 32-bit OS
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[12:57] <feng> I know it takes times
[12:57] <feng> but i'm not hurry :p
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[12:58] <W|GGL|T> feng: this probably isn't the right channel for your question, to be honest
[12:58] <feng> hum
[12:58] <feng> can you suggest me one ?
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[12:59] <W|GGL|T> not really, but your question isn't exactly specific to slackware
[12:59] <feng> hum, actually I want convert Zenwalk
[12:59] <feng> a child of Slackware :p
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[13:00] <LSD`> 00:58 < W|GGL|T> i'm thinking it isn't trivial to just add 64-bit functionality to a 32-bit OS <- it can't be that difficult if both Windows and Mac OS X managed it XD
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[13:00] <W|GGL|T> that doesn't make the question specific to slackware
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[13:01] <feng> I don't want make a 64bits LSF, I think there is a way to get diff between Zen/Slack and transform the Slack64 to a Zen64 (core)
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[13:02] <W|GGL|T> LSD`: their developers managed it through companywide effort, yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about
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[13:03] <W|GGL|T> since you're running Zen, get Zen support.  just because Zen is based off of Slack doesn't mean they are the same
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[13:03] <feng> so you kick me out ? :p
[13:03] <W|GGL|T> nope...pointing you in the right direction
[13:03] <W|GGL|T> Zen != Slack
[13:03] <feng> wich is the door :p
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[13:04] <feng> currently, no one zenwalker have knowledge/time to develop a Zen64
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[13:04] <feng> and I know Slackware recently get a 64bits support
[13:04] <W|GGL|T> but really, even if you were using Slackware, that is a loaded question that isn't really related to any particular distro
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[13:05] <LSD`> feng: Do you really need a 64 bit version at this point?
[13:05] <psibian> i am trying to compile libxmi, and it gives me an error >> checking host system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized << tried searching on google and someone mentioned about editing config.* files, could some one help
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[13:06] <feng> @LSD` : that's not the point
[13:06] <W|GGL|T> send an e-mail to fred87 and/or Pat V.  maybe they can point you in the right direction.
[13:06] <feng> @LSD` : (and yes, 32G server ram need a 64bits OS :p )
[13:07] <W|GGL|T> install slackware 64-bit, then
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[13:07] <feng> <W|GGL|T> Zen != Slack
[13:07] <feng> :p
[13:07] <W|GGL|T> no shit
[13:07] <W|GGL|T> get rid of zen
[13:07] <mrselfpwn> lol
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[13:07] <feng> ^^
[13:07] <psibian> zzzzzzzzzz
[13:08] <W|GGL|T> get rid of zen or wait for zen to get off their asses and develop 64-bit
[13:08] <mrselfpwn> psibian: no one is obligated to help you sir/madam.
[13:08] <W|GGL|T> no need to beg for help in another unrelated IRC channel for it
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[13:09] <feng> i'm not begging
[13:09] <W|GGL|T> then do what i suggested  :)
[13:09] <feng> but obviously you want keep your knowledge for yourself :/
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[13:10] <W|GGL|T> no...if i were in your shoes, i'd do what i just suggested to you
[13:10] <feng> a simple list of things have to be updated is not a big load, is it ?
[13:10] <W|GGL|T> because its logical
[13:10] <psibian> mrselfpwn, i have right to sleep, :)
[13:10] <mrselfpwn> heh. yeah sure
[13:11] <W|GGL|T> feng: we're not slackware devs here
[13:11] <mrselfpwn> just don't snore so loud. :D
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[13:15] <feng> <W|GGL|T> send an e-mail to fred87 and/or Pat V.  maybe they can point you in the right direction.
[13:16] <feng> how?
[13:16] <feng> info mail adress ?
[13:17] <feng> well, nvm, bb
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[13:18] Action: hitest extends Thanksgiving greetings from Canada
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[13:18] <metrofox> hi there!
[13:19] Nick change: nix4me -> chopp
[13:19] <hitest> hi metrofox
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[13:25] <ibrahim> Hey, I just configured my sound card with alsaconf but for some reason mplayer is using oss, how do I opt mplayer to use alsa?
[13:28] <spider1010> edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[13:29] <spider1010> under audio section
[13:29] <spider1010> wait
[13:30] <spider1010> Configuration files are read system-wide from /usr/local/etc/mplayer.conf and per user from ~/.mplayer/config, where per-user settings override system-wide settings, all of which are overrriden by the command line.
[13:30] <nixchix0r> hitest, you sure know how to stuff a turkey
[13:30] <ibrahim> Wicked
[13:31] <spider1010> its right out of /etc/mplayer/mplayer.config
[13:32] <spider1010> *.conf
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[13:34] <hitest> nixchix0r: heh
[13:34] <nixchix0r> :P
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[13:40] <scrote> hi
[13:41] <scrote> any neo geo folks?  Looking for a bios.
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[13:42] <redtricycle> ...why do people use CRC32 (*.sfv) files instead of md5sum or CRC16 (that can be checked with cksum)
[13:42] <redtricycle> I have to go compile cksfv now -_-
[13:45] <jeev> md5'mg large files would be slow
[13:45] <jeev> or slower than crc32
[13:45] <jeev> i think :)
[13:46] Action: hitest is heading out for a walk...be back later.
[13:47] <jeev> heh
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[13:52] <metrofox> hi fire|bir
[13:53] <fire|bird> hi metrofox
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[14:00] <edman007> redtricycle, crc32 is very fast and very easy to implement, and it does a good job at detecting errors in data transmission
[14:00] <nixchix0r> hi edman007
[14:00] <edman007> nixchix0r,
[14:00] <nixchix0r> sawp
[14:01] <edman007> uhh, i'm here
[14:01] <edman007> doing nothing useful...
[14:01] <edman007> well i got the picoLCD and i need to write a dbus plugin for lcd4linux
[14:02] <edman007> redtricycle, md5 is (well was) considered cryptography secure, they is why it is considered better, but if all you want to do is check for data transmission errors there is no need for a cryptographically secure algorithm
[14:02] <edman007> nixchix0r, how about you?
[14:02] <edman007> killing babies yet?
[14:02] <nixchix0r> dealing with a stubborn father in law and a teething baby lol
[14:02] <nixchix0r> so pretty much two children
[14:03] <edman007> hahaha
[14:03] <edman007> stubborn? how so?
[14:04] <nixchix0r> well he calls like all the time telling someone to pick him up at the hospital and the drs say hes not ready to go home yet
[14:04] <nixchix0r> so i refuse to pick him up
[14:04] <edman007> hahaha
[14:05] <nixchix0r> they need to rule out him having a stroke and do some rehabilitation shit and he's like noo i'm fine
[14:05] <edman007> sounds like you run a taxi service
[14:05] <nixchix0r> yeah you could say
[14:05] <edman007> i want a ride
[14:05] <Dominian> I'm actually looking at getting my wife a taxi meter for her car... as a gag
[14:05] <nixchix0r> not makin money though haha
[14:05] <Dominian> mainly cause her friends think SHE Is a taxi
[14:05] <nixchix0r> hah Dominian that shit happens here
[14:06] <nixchix0r> no one seems to have working vehicles
[14:06] <edman007> nixchix0r, thats my favorite type, i hate paying
[14:06] <rk4n3> well, you're refusing rides, which makes you alot like most taxis already :)
[14:06] <Dominian> So I'll get one.. program it for 0.45 a mile and have her turn it on when they are around
[14:06] <nixchix0r> ahaha that's a good one
[14:06] <edman007> lol
[14:06] <nixchix0r> is 13.0 stable or no
[14:07] Action: edman007 reads the topic
[14:07] <edman007> nixchix0r, can you read?
[14:07] <rk4n3> my wife used to play taxi to all her friends, until she got a DWI because being the least drunk in the car doesn't count
[14:07] <nixchix0r> no:(
[14:08] <edman007> rk4n3, hahaha
[14:08] <rk4n3> haha - I can laugh because it was many many years ago :)
[14:08] <edman007> nixchix0r, well it says you are behind the times
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[14:09] <edman007> we are at slackware 22.3.1, pat decided emacs is so awesome the distro will no go by the version of emacs installed
[14:09] <edman007> s/no/now/
[14:09] <nixchix0r> 22.3.1!!!
[14:09] <metrofox> :O
[14:10] <nixchix0r> crapp where have i been
[14:10] <metrofox> 22.3.1?
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[14:10] <metrofox> :O how old I am right now?
[14:10] Action: edman007 gives metrofox an old fart meter
[14:11] <NaCl> edman007: time warp much?
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[14:11] Action: edman007 just finished reading about worm holes...
[14:11] <edman007> so, uhh, yea, i just got back from the future
[14:12] <nixchix0r> well im gona grab 13.0
[14:12] <nixchix0r> ;p
[14:12] <edman007> the moon fell in 2012, turned out nasa hit it a little too hard and knocked it out of orbit last month
[14:12] Action: nixchix0r hugslaptop
[14:12] <edman007> err, this month actually...
[14:12] <nixchix0r> do we even need the moon
[14:12] <edman007> whatever
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[14:14] <hiptobecubic> nixchix0r, yes.
[14:14] <nixchix0r> what would happen if we didnt have one hiptobecubic
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[14:15] <hiptobecubic> catastrophic weather as the ocean circulation changes or stops
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[14:16] <nixchix0r> so slightly worse than what it is now? i guess we wouldn't have cheezeits
[14:16] <NaCl> s/catastrophic/much more catastrophic
[14:17] <antiwire> Does anyone here have an iPhone tethered to Slackware for internet access?
[14:17] <nixchix0r> payday is thursday
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[14:20] <hiptobecubic> nixchix0r, also everyone might suddenly think we're at the center of the universe again
[14:20] <nixchix0r> i wonder what would happen with the jehovas
[14:20] <nixchix0r> they would probally freak out
[14:21] <hiptobecubic> you mean drown in the massive flooding
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[14:25] <edman007> now we can find out what will really happen
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[14:28] <antiwire> Is there a document that outlines the configuration process of an email server using the stock package set in Slackware?
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[14:31] <g4tt0> bye
[14:31] <spider1010> sendmail
[14:31] <spider1010> ???????
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[14:31] <antiwire> spider1010: did you even read what I wrote?
[14:32] <spider1010> not really
[14:32] <fire|bird> then why answer?
[14:32] <spider1010> because i can
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[14:33] <bolide> wow
[14:33] <antiwire> You didn't answer anything. In fact, what you call an answer was actually a question itself.
[14:33] <fire|bird> antiwire: I've followed Dominian's guide before, but that requires a few things from SBo though.
[14:34] <antiwire> fire|bird: Do you have a link to Dominian's guide?
[14:34] <fire|bird> http://wiki.slackadelic.com/index.php/Mailserver
[14:34] <antiwire> thanks
[14:34] <fredoslack> iooooooooo
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[14:35] <fredoslack> hello fire|bird  and
[14:35] <fredoslack> antiwire,
[14:35] <fire|bird> hi fredoslack
[14:35] <spider1010> well yea. i was asking if you meant sendmail or what? Don't act like it was that hard to understand.
[14:35] <fredoslack> and bolide
[14:35] <fredoslack> =)
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[14:43] <Nigromante> hi humanoids
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[14:48] <metrofox> hi alien_Nigromante
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[15:04] <macavity> :-)
[15:04] <fire|bird> greetings macavity, how are you?
[15:04] <macavity> good
[15:05] <macavity> kde 4.3.2 is doing good so far
[15:05] <macavity> i didnt like the new Air thing though.. switched back to oxygen
[15:05] <fire|bird> haha, I like the Air theme, but I switch anyway. I'm using metalized atm from kde-look.org
[15:06] <thrice`> pics? :)
[15:07] <fire|bird> macavity: I used to really like oxygen, then they changed it to blue. :P
[15:07] <thrice`> I agree, the blue sucks
[15:07] <macavity> huh? mine is blackish
[15:08] <fire|bird> macavity: It hasn't been black since, 4.2 iirc.
[15:08] <fire|bird> macavity: the panel isn't blue?
[15:08] <macavity> well.. if you pick the cashew thingie -> folder view settings -> Theme = Oxygen
[15:09] <macavity> then the plamoids are black and the taskbar is midnight blue/blackish
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[15:09] <macavity> or rather, it is black and semi transparent.. but my wall paper is blue
[15:10] <macavity> i rather like Blue Curl
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[15:10] <fire|bird> macavity: Well, the oxygen theme makes the panel blue.
[15:10] <fire|bird> macavity: and, iirc from that screenshot you posted a week or so back, your panel was blue.
[15:10] <macavity> i must be color blind.. it looks like it is black transparent
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[15:11] <fire|bird> haha
[15:11] <macavity> ah, right.. if i turn off composite it becomes blue
[15:11] <fire|bird> lol
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[15:12] <pprkut> fire|bird: it's blue if you have composite disabled
[15:12] <fire|bird> Hmm, ok. I didn't know it changed color based on compositing.
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[15:13] <fire|bird> thanks pprkut
[15:13] <macavity> http://imagebin.org/67308
[15:13] <winter> 20:52 <+winter> \o/
[15:13] <fire|bird> thrice`: http://omploader.org/vMml5OQ
[15:13] <macavity> see why it looks like black transparent?
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[15:13] <winter> FAIL
[15:14] <fire|bird> macavity: yeah, it looks like black, but to me, that is a deep blue. :P
[15:14] <winter> macavity: try with differwent background also
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[15:14] <fire|bird> macavity: you never change the wallpaper? :P
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[15:15] <winter> in example with white background
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[15:16] <fire|bird> Well, I have almost a white bg, and with compositing on, the panel is completely clear transparent with oxygen. :P
[15:16] <winter> janemba! :>
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[15:17] <fire|bird> I know, oxygen is a chameleon.
[15:17] <deco> macavity: http://omploader.org/vMml5Yg
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[15:21] <deco> nvm didn't my music playing on the last one
[15:22] <deco> http://omploader.org/vMml5ZA
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[15:34] <seventeen]> I ned slackware on my netbook... where is my usb installer?
[15:34] <seventeen]> need *
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[15:42] <Scuzz> seventeen],   http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/
[15:42] <Scuzz> thats for slack 13.0
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[15:46] <oda> seventeen]: I use an alternative way: http://stoa.usp.br/oda/weblog/63591.html
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[16:07] <ibrahim> For some reason when I try to compile broadcom-sta I get the following error. Any ideas? http://pastebin.ca/1613345
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[16:17] <UbuntuMartyr> I need to deploy Windows NT 3.1 as a domain controller.
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[16:18] <ibrahim> What package contains modpost?
[16:19] Nick change: UbuntuMartyr -> MartyrOfIdiocy
[16:19] <ibrahim> When I try to compile ndiswrapper, i get an error complaing that modpost is missing
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[16:21] <adamk_> modpost is part of the kernel source.
[16:21] <adamk_> /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6/scripts/mod/modpost
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[16:22] <ibrahim> adamk_: When I try to build it, I get an 'unrecognised option -m' error
[16:23] <adamk_> Sorry, I know no more about it than what I just told you.
[16:23] <ibrahim> adamk_: Alright. Thanks
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[16:25] <whiskas> Hi
[16:25] <neonflux> ibrahim: does /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6/scripts/mod/modpost even exist on your machine?
[16:26] <ibrahim> neonflux: Yes
[16:26] <fire|bird> hello whiskas
[16:26] <ibrahim> neonflux: modpost.h and modpost.c
[16:26] <whiskas> :)
[16:27] <pprkut> ibrahim: uname -r
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[16:27] <ibrahim> 2.6.29.6
[16:27] <ibrahim> pprkut: ^
[16:27] <whiskas> how can I stop xfce from showing a thunar window when automounting a cdrom, usb or whatever?
[16:27] <pprkut> ok, just wanted to make sure :)
[16:27] <ibrahim> lol
[16:27] <ibrahim> So does anyone have any idea why modpost doesn't exist?\
[16:27] <rworkman> ibrahim: I just tested and approved broadcom-sta last night at SBo; I know it works :/
[16:28] <rworkman> whiskas: configure thunar's volume management from the settings dialog
[16:28] <whiskas> rworkman, thank you
[16:28] <ibrahim> rworkman: I'm not even trying broadcom-sta, that gave me a really scary kernel error. I'm just trying ndiswrapper
[16:28] <rworkman> ibrahim: some sort of problem with your kernel sources.
[16:28] <rworkman> ibrahim: custom kernel?
[16:28] <ibrahim> Nope
[16:28] <ibrahim> Fresh install
[16:28] <rworkman> (or have you tried to build a custom kernel?)
[16:29] <ibrahim> Should I re-build the kernel?
[16:29] <rworkman> no
[16:29] <ibrahim> Okay.
[16:29] <rworkman> Reinstall the kernel-source package, then cd into the kernel source dir and do "make prepare" and then try again
[16:30] <ibrahim> Alright cool, thanks
[16:30] <pprkut> rworkman: can it be a smp/no-smp issue?
[16:31] <rworkman> pprkut: possibly
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[16:32] <pprkut> never had those, so I don't know the symptoms :)
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[16:36] <ibrahim> rworkman: Where can I find the kernel-source package to which you are referring?
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[16:40] <ibrahim> nevermind, found it
[16:42] <rworkman> pprkut: same here :)
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[16:44] <pprkut> hehe
[16:44] <thumbs> amarok on 12.2 is a tad unstable when running xfce
[16:44] <thumbs> :(
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[16:45] <thumbs> also, does anyone have this issue where if you leave FF running for a long time with flash pages opened, the sound goes away in those flash apps?
[16:45] <rk4n3> thumbs:  absolutely - it happens to me consistently just as you describe
[16:46] <thumbs> rk4n3: bloody annoying.
[16:46] <thumbs> rk4n3: I updated the nvidia drivers, and the kernel, numerous times.
[16:46] <rk4n3> thumbs:  I also have huge problems with transparency and flash
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[16:46] <thumbs> rk4n3: are you using the latest beta plugin? With the slackbuild?
[16:47] <rk4n3> thumbs:  I have those problems consistently with every machine I own, which have quite a variety of video cards, both ATI and nVidia
[16:47] <thumbs> rk4n3: fair enough.
[16:47] <rk4n3> thumbs:  the slackbuild doesn't do much - all flash really is is the plugin .so
[16:47] <thumbs> rk4n3: the sound still works well with amarok / gxine / gmplayer
[16:47] <rk4n3> thumbs:  ... and I've tried pretty much all the 10.x.x... ones
[16:47] <thumbs> rk4n3: thanks.
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[16:48] <rk4n3> thumbs:  yep, nothing wrong with any of my sound either, just flash
[16:48] <thumbs> rk4n3: I'll blame adobe or Firefox on this one.
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[16:48] <rk4n3> thumbs:  I'm pretty sure its just the low quality of the flash plugin
[16:48] <thumbs> rk4n3: yeah.
[16:48] <rk4n3> thumbs:  it seems the non-Windows world are second-class citizens in that regard
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[16:49] <thumbs> rk4n3: unfortunately, I like to browse the occasional youtube, and play flash games.
[16:49] <thumbs> rk4n3: I just restart FF in the morning, out of habit.
[16:49] <ibrahim> rworkman: Okay so I compiled broadcom-sta and I have wl.ko but when I do modprobe wl.ko it says "FATAL: Module w.ko not found."
[16:49] <ibrahim> modprobe lib80211 works fine
[16:49] <rworkman> ibrahim: not enough information given
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[16:50] <rworkman> ibrahim: did you install the module into the appropriate place?
[16:50] <rk4n3> thumbs:  I think its alot worse than that - there's so many sites using flash now, I have a terrible experience *everywhere* I browse, including my bank
[16:50] <rworkman> More importantly, did you run depmod?
[16:50] <thumbs> rk4n3: your bank uses flash? Bloody hell.
[16:50] <thumbs> rk4n3: switch bank.
[16:50] <rk4n3> thumbs:  no kidding - it really ticks me off - I don't need fancy tranparency crap to look at my balances
[16:51] <rk4n3> thumbs:  they are pretty much *all* doing it now - wells fargo, usbank, etc...
[16:51] <thumbs> rk4n3: hear this
[16:51] <bigpaws> Cash is easier
[16:51] <hitest> rk4n3: a bank has flash on their site? that blows, big time
[16:51] <ibrahim> rworkman: I did a depmod but I'm not sure where I was supposed to install it to, I'm just following the README.
[16:51] <ibrahim> "it" being wl.ko
[16:51] <thumbs> rk4n3: my old bank used to only work in IE in windows, then only on FF in windows, now only in FF on linux
[16:51] <rworkman> ibrahim: then you should probably have a look at http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/broadcom-sta/
[16:51] <thumbs> rk4n3: i ditched it, naturally.
[16:51] <ibrahim> WhoaH! There's a slackbuild?!
[16:51] <rk4n3> thumbs:  heh
[16:51] <rworkman> and http://slackbuilds.org/howto/
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[16:52] <rworkman> and with that, I'm off for a while to find some food.
[16:52] <rk4n3> thumbs:  still, I think the much bigger problem is the almost viral spread of flash throughout commercial web applications - before long, it will saturate everything
[16:52] <thumbs> rk4n3: flashblock
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[16:53] <rk4n3> thumbs:  well, that's the problem - pretty soon you wont be able to use any of the apps without flash - all their functionality will depend on it
[16:54] <thumbs> rk4n3: I build my pages with alternate content. Why can't other admins do so?
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[16:55] <rk4n3> thumbs:  its a "groupthink" thing - the big commercial apps are all built by kids from India these days, using huge SDK/Toolkit products purchased by the corporations, believing that will allow them to hire the kids from India because the toolkit does all the work
[16:55] <ibrahim> I installed broadcom-sta using the slackbuild, how do I now enable the driver?
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[16:55] <rk4n3> thumbs:  ... and the toolkits are moving toward more and more flash and rich app tech, to be glitzy selling points for the corp types
[16:56] <thumbs> rk4n3: well they could use ajax instead. I don't mind JavaScript.
[16:56] <rk4n3> thumbs:  there's a whole world of things they *could* use, but they are not looking at it that way
[16:57] <thumbs> rk4n3: *shrug*
[16:57] <rk4n3> thumbs:  its the same reason anyone pays metric ass-loads of money for WebSphere instead of using Apache
[16:58] <thumbs> rk4n3: perhaps. I'm an apache contributor, so I don't see the point of websphere either
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[16:59] <rk4n3> thumbs:  indeed
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[17:02] <metrofox> I go to bed now... ;) See ya guys
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[17:03] <ibrahim> So now that I have my wifi card installed and configured, what's a good GUI I can use for iwconfig to connect to wireless routers?
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[17:06] <v3gard> ibrahim: wicd
[17:07] <v3gard> it's in /extra
[17:07] <NaCl> Upgrade to 1.6.2.2
[17:07] <NaCl> 1.6.2.1 is broken
[17:07] <NaCl> Horribly so.
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[17:08] <v3gard> NaCl: i'm using 1.6.2.1 myself.. what are the issues you were facing?
[17:08] Action: NaCl is a wicd developer
[17:08] <v3gard> okey :)
[17:08] <v3gard> thanks for the tip
[17:08] <NaCl> If you have an essid that contains a non-alphanumeric character, wicd will interpret that network as hidden
[17:09] <NaCl> This was due to a botched regex, and is fixed in 1.6.2.2
[17:09] <v3gard> okey, I wasn't aware of that
[17:09] Action: NaCl wonders when Pat will update it in -current
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[17:12] <unixfool> maybe send him a note and he'll update it?
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[17:12] <NaCl> unixfool: already did
[17:13] <ibrahim> How do I get wpa_supplicant working with the broadcom-sta driver?
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[17:17] <Urchlay> ibrahim: you have to compile the driver with wpa_supplicant support
[17:17] <ibrahim> Urchlay: Ah I see. Cool.
[17:17] <NaCl> Urchlay: it then works with -Dwext, right?
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[17:17] Action: NaCl should know whta
[17:18] <NaCl> *that
[17:18] <Urchlay> ibrahim: wait one sec, lemme see what I actually had to do...
[17:19] <ibrahim> Urchlay: Thanks, because I can't find the option in the slackbuild.
[17:19] <Urchlay> wait, I'm wrong, mine's not a broadcom-sta, it's a ralink-sta
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[17:20] <ibrahim> Urchlay: -.- Darn it. got me all excited.
[17:20] <rk4n3> Urchlay: tease
[17:20] <rk4n3> Urchlay: :)
[17:20] <ibrahim> Does that mean -Dwext should work off the bat with broadcom-sta ? =]
[17:20] <Urchlay> no idea
[17:21] <NaCl> AFAICT, there is no special option in wpa_supplicant, so I think so.
[17:21] <ibrahim> Is there a GUI app for iwconfig? Because iwconfig already detects my card...
[17:21] <Urchlay> hm. What's the -sta part stand for, even?
[17:21] <NaCl> ibrahim: closest thing is wicd
[17:22] <Urchlay> ibrahim: there's wicd (in extra/ on the DVD or FTP site)
[17:22] <ibrahim> Hm, I do have wicd but for some reason it's not behaving as expected.
[17:22] <NaCl> Just *please* upgrade it to 1.6.2.2 .
[17:23] <NaCl> ibrahim: that may be why it is not working correctly
[17:23] <ibrahim> Well the driver is set to wext...
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[17:29] <ibrahim> Well my wireless interface is 'eth1' and when I try to use iwlist I get eth1      Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument
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[17:31] <straterra> you sure thats your wifi?
[17:32] <ibrahim> straterra: I would say so, wouldn't you? http://pastebin.ca/1613563
[17:32] <ibrahim> Nevermind
[17:32] <ibrahim> The card was off
[17:32] <ibrahim> =
[17:32] Channel flood from ibrahim -- kicking
[17:32] <ibrahim> Silly me
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[17:33] <fire|bird> haha
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[17:34] <rk4n3> wow, Windows in a qemu vm is SLOW without hardware acceleration
[17:35] <twolf> indeed
[17:35] <straterra> most os's without the accel are
[17:35] <rk4n3> I'm directly experienceing right now that linux is way more usable with the accel
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[17:36] <rk4n3> (than Windows is)
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[17:38] <redtricycle> when you guys makepkg, are you making txz packages, or still sticking with tgz?
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[17:40] <ibrahim> I want the commands 'ifconfig eth1 up' and 'wicd' to be run at boot time, how would I go about doing that?
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[17:40] <redtricycle> ibrahim: that's controlled by /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd (and rc.inet1.conf)
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[17:40] <redtricycle> you need to add the wicd startup blurb in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[17:41] <ibrahim> I see
[17:41] <Scuzz> does anyone knoiw if its possible to block someone from bruteforcing webmail like squirellmail with iptables
[17:41] <redtricycle> scratch that
[17:41] <ibrahim> ?
[17:41] <redtricycle> there's a /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd
[17:41] <snL20> its a jungle out there!
[17:41] <redtricycle> so just chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd
[17:41] <ibrahim> Wicked
[17:42] <ibrahim> And the ifconfig eth1 up bit?
[17:42] <redtricycle> if you edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf
[17:42] <redtricycle> and include your eth1 information, inetd will call it
[17:42] <snL20> Scuzz: anything is possible
[17:42] <redtricycle> and automatically "ifconfig eth1 up"
[17:42] <Scuzz> lol thanx
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[17:43] <redtricycle> ibrahim: However, I don't do that and use wicd
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[17:43] <redtricycle> if you have the correct drivers, your eth1 should already be up
[17:43] <Scuzz> im trying to get it to work like the sshd drop tables
[17:43] <Scuzz> but cant figure it out
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[17:46] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  did you try using the "recent" module with a --update --seconds 15 specification on a port 80 DROP rule ?
[17:46] <Scuzz> rk4n3, thats waht im using now for sshd
[17:47] <Scuzz> and works well
[17:47] <Scuzz> althouhg it doesnt seem to be working for http
[17:47] Nick change: superGear -> Naraku
[17:47] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  how did you adapt the rule for http ?
[17:47] <Scuzz> poorly
[17:47] <Scuzz> it gave me an error when i reboot
[17:48] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  haha - what actual change did you make ?
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[17:48] <Scuzz> i tried jsut simply changing the port
[17:48] <Scuzz> ill paste
[17:48] <Scuzz> will 4 lines kick me ?
[17:48] <Urchlay> it will
[17:49] <rk4n3> pastebin
[17:49] <Scuzz> k
[17:51] <Scuzz> http://pastebin.com/d5ee5d5f5
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[17:52] <Scuzz> i tired jsut simply changing some stuff
[17:52] <Scuzz> tried*
[17:52] <Scuzz> but it was a n0obish attmept on my part
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[17:52] <Urchlay> the only true knowledge is knowing that you know nothing :)
[17:52] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  OK, then I have another question for you ...
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[17:52] <Scuzz> hahaha Urchlay
[17:53] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  do you have any rules in your iptables that occur *before* the ones you added that would allow the http requests in ?
[17:53] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  ... order is important
[17:53] <Urchlay> Scuzz: it looks like that would have worked better if the 2nd set (the ones for httpd) were using a different chain name (HTTPDSCAN maybe, instead of SSHSCAN like the 1st set uses)
[17:53] <Scuzz> iv posted my whole rc.firewall so far
[17:54] <Scuzz> ill try it out
[17:54] <Urchlay> not saying that will necessarily fix it, but that's the first thing I noticed that's odd-looking
[17:54] <Scuzz> yeah
[17:55] <Scuzz> i think i had it like that to begin with
[17:55] <Scuzz> but kept making changes here and there
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[17:55] <Scuzz> in otice imapd does log the faild logins
[17:55] <rk4n3> um, you used HTTPD-SCAN to invoke, but named the chain HTTP-SCAN
[17:55] <rk4n3> ... for one
[17:55] <Scuzz> notice*
[17:56] <rk4n3> my paranoia would also tell me to skip using dashes in chain names, though it might be OK - better safe than sorry
[17:57] <Scuzz> k ill give it a shot
[17:57] <rk4n3> I think you're missing an initialization packet filter rule, as well
[17:57] <rk4n3> ... which may have some consequences on legitimate connections
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[17:58] <rk4n3> I think you want something like this at the beginning of your SSHSCAN chain:
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[17:59] <rk4n3>       # iptables -A SSHSCAN -p tcp ! --syn -s 0/0 -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j ACCEPT
[17:59] <rk4n3> .... uncommentd, and your server's real IP instead of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[17:59] <Scuzz> the sshscan works well
[18:00] <Scuzz> i have no issues with it
[18:00] <winter> 23:55 < Scuzz> k ill give it a shot
[18:00] <Scuzz> k back to editing it now
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[18:01] <rk4n3> Scuzz:  you may with tunneling - if you don't have that rule, you can get rejections of incoming repeat packets on a legitimate session, whenever a packet re-transmission happens
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[18:01] <rk4n3> ... you would notice this as strange but isolated "stalls", resembling net-lag
[18:02] <Scuzz> k ill add it
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[18:04] <Scuzz> do you think im going about this the wrong way ?
[18:04] <Scuzz> should i maybe be adding the imapd port instead of httpd port ?
[18:05] <Scuzz> considering thats what is showing my login failures ?
[18:06] <Scuzz> Oct 11 18:03:49 BaseFace imapd[4312]: Login failed user=xzgnfzdx auth=xzgnfzdx host=localhost [127.0.0.1]
[18:06] <rk4n3> isn't squirrelmail just a web app ?
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[18:07] <Scuzz> yes for retreiving local mail
[18:07] <Scuzz> or external if you want
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[18:08] <rk4n3> OK, so if you're retrieving external email, that's where the imap would come in, I presume ...
[18:08] <Scuzz> i am
[18:08] <rk4n3> but the user interface is still driven through the web app, which is using the imap client protocol to a remote imap service, correct ?
[18:09] <Scuzz> yes
[18:09] <rk4n3> if that's the case, you shouldn't need to concern your firewall about imap, you're not running the service
[18:09] <Scuzz> but picking up on the imapd login failuers is all i need
[18:09] <Scuzz> when i login through the webappp
[18:09] <Scuzz> imap is picking up on the login failures
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[18:10] <Scuzz> i am running the service
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[18:11] <rk4n3> hmmm ... configuring the firewall to adapt to external program failures is beyond my iptables fu
[18:11] <Scuzz> external ?
[18:11] <Scuzz> Oct 11 18:03:49 BaseFace imapd[4312]: Login failed user=xzgnfzdx auth=xzgnfzdx host=localhost [127.0.0.1]
[18:11] <Scuzz> im running the service localy as you see
[18:12] <rk4n3> yeah, an imap login failure has nothing to do with the packets themselves, its an external program state - the external program is the imapd
[18:12] <nannes> hi spook
[18:12] <Scuzz> oh i see
[18:12] <rk4n3> extern as in external to iptables + packet contents/attributes
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[18:12] <Scuzz> now i understand ya
[18:12] <rk4n3> if its possible, I don't know who
[18:12] <rk4n3> er, how
[18:13] <rk4n3> it would be cool to learn the technique if it is possible though :)
[18:13] <Scuzz> yeah would be handy
[18:13] <Scuzz> retreiving all my mail from different accounts with this is great
[18:14] <Scuzz> now i jsut have to secure it
[18:14] <gar0t0> Hi <o
[18:14] <Scuzz> howdy
[18:14] <gar0t0> :)
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[18:40] <NaCl> redtricycle: fyi: wicd is already started in /etc/rc.d/rc.M, I believe
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[18:44] Action: edman007 uses NaCl as a coolant
[18:45] Action: NaCl is used for a lot of reasons
[18:45] <NaCl> http://noobfarm.org/?id=1439
[18:46] <edman007> the memories!
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[18:51] <trimmer> is there a good channel for somehelp with an X11 conf prob?
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[18:53] <ibrahim> Hey guys, I just installed my ati drivers but when I put fglrx in my xorg.conf and then start X, my computer freezes =/
[18:53] <ibrahim> Any ideas?
[18:54] <redtricycle> hey ibrahim, welcome back
[18:54] <trimmer> that's too funny
[18:54] <redtricycle> what version of slackware are you using?
[18:55] <ibrahim> slackware 64 13.0
[18:55] <ibrahim> redtricycle: Thank you, btw
[18:55] <redtricycle> ah...hmm, I cant help sorry
[18:55] <redtricycle> because I let HAL configure my xorg
[18:55] <redtricycle> so I use default radeon drives =(
[18:55] <redtricycle> drivers*
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[18:55] <ibrahim> Hmm. For some reason radeon is REALLY slow. Any idea why that might be?
[18:56] <redtricycle> Do you have compositing on?
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[18:56] <trimmer> ibrahim, I am wanting to start using my NVIDIA drivers too, but my xorg.conf hangs my system too
[18:56] <ibrahim> Ouch
[18:57] <trimmer> I had just asked,not a moment before you popped in about a good place to quiz someone down about X11 conf
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[18:57] <redtricycle> trimmer: do you let NVidia autoconfigure your xorg, or do you do it manually?
[18:57] <blkdg> hi, has anyone dabbled with openbsd? i've read some articles , but i was wondering how slackware-like it is.
[18:58] <blkdg> not trolling btw
[18:58] <redtricycle> I've heard some things about it...some people would prefer it if slackware didn't exist
[18:58] <redtricycle> dont remember the exact reasons
[18:58] <nositelicense> the install looks the same
[18:58] <blkdg> i have a few ppc machines to get up and running, and i read that openbsd has a version for ppc
[18:59] <trimmer> redtricycle, when I let nvidia handle it my system hangs, so I am going to have to manually change what nvidia started
[18:59] <straterra> agentc0re: BTW..I don't care what you think. At all.
[18:59] <redtricycle> trimmer: I believe there should be an xorg log
[18:59] <redtricycle> trimmer: that could help track down your problem?
[18:59] <trimmer> blkdg, i never found bsd to slack at all.
[18:59] <straterra> agentc0re: Oops..I misread what you said lol..my bad
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[19:00] <deco> straterra: ....
[19:00] <deco> :)
[19:00] <trimmer> I like most BSD flavors
[19:00] <hitest> yep
[19:01] <fire|bird> hey hitest, how are you?
[19:01] <blkdg> ok, anyone had practical experience with slackintosh? i've yet to google it, i just came across the name
[19:02] <hitest> hi fire|bird: I'm good. ty.  Are you well?
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[19:03] <fire|bird> hitest: yes, I'm well, thank you. I discovered that my laptop can indeed boot from USB, so I'm just rsyncing the slack tree to make a slack USB drive. :)
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[19:04] <hitest> very cool
[19:04] Action: hitest goes to make his 6 year old a snack
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[19:10] <blkdg> thanks again folks
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[19:13] <edman007> trimmer, blob drivers suck, avoid them if you can
[19:14] <edman007> but when does the nvidia driver crash?
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[19:23] <trimmer> it doesn't crash, that's whats weird, the display manager just doesn't appear.
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[19:25] <godling> What's going on?
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[19:27] <trimmer> trying to find out why my nvidia driver pukes on my display manager
[19:28] <godling> I've got a Geforce 5500GT on my desktop machine running 12.2.
[19:28] <trimmer> I am running a Geforce4 440 Go on 32bit 13.0
[19:29] <godling> which is pitiful 'cause I've only got 384 MB of RAM so I can't play jack. ;P
[19:29] <trimmer> vesa driver works, but will not let me go crazy with compiz
[19:30] <godling> Is that a bug or af eature? ;P
[19:30] <trimmer> which ever it is it's about to become a broken circuit
[19:30] <godling> haha
[19:30] <godling> dude don't
[19:31] <trimmer> brb
[19:31] <godling> that's the only reason I can't fit more memory into my desktop
[19:31] <godling> don't get pissed off at your computer when you're trying to seat ram
[19:31] <godling> :P
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[19:33] <macavity> later
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[19:33] <trimmer> running to red box
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[19:34] <godling> red box?
[19:34] <godling> the dvd machines?
[19:39] <agentc0re> straterra: lol.  It's all good.
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[20:15] <LnxSlck> hello happy slackers
[20:15] <trimmer> slack
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[20:31] <hitest> hi LnxSlck
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[20:33] <fire|bird> hey LnxSlck, how's it going?
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[20:38] <hitest> hi fire|bird
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[20:39] <godling> spook: how are the fixes coming?
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[20:46] <fire|bird> hey hitest
[20:46] <hitest> :)
[20:46] <hitest> how are you, man?
[20:46] <fire|bird> great, thanks. you?
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[20:47] <hitest> I'm excellent, thank you:)
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[20:48] <Dominian> spider1010: ping
[20:48] <Dominian> er..
[20:48] <Dominian> spook: ping
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[20:51] <fire|bird> y0 Rat409
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[20:52] <LnxSlck> hello fire|bird
[20:52] <LnxSlck> hello hitest
[20:52] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  nice and you?
[20:53] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  i just updated my personal blog.. been trying wordpress for a while
[20:53] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: I'm doing great, thanks.
[20:53] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  nice
[20:53] <fire|bird> nice, how's wordpress going?
[20:53] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  it s nice, a bit confusing
[20:53] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  i m still learning to work with it
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[20:54] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  its a blog not to be seen ... lol
[20:54] <LnxSlck> fire|bird:  my own therapy
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[20:55] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird, fire|bird, fire|bird!
[20:55] <godling> So Freenode's moving to charybdis
[20:55] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: haha
[20:56] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux, Camarade_Tux, Camarade_Tux!
[20:56] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMml1Zw
[20:56] <Camarade_Tux> it lacks any form of control and window borders but that's a browser window :P
[20:57] <fire|bird> nice!
[20:58] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: now I have to make them not crash (I'm sure it will) and do the same for dbus-glib which is probably harder
[20:58] <Camarade_Tux> but I'll see that soon :)
[20:58] <fire|bird> cool
[20:58] <quasar> zing.
[20:58] <fire|bird> zong.
[20:59] <Urchlay> backups|parameterizations
[20:59] <Urchlay> er, fire|bird
[20:59] <LnxSlck> well off to bed, tomorrow starts another work week
[20:59] <godling> http://www.oftc.net/oftc/CallerId is a great idea
[20:59] <LnxSlck> see you guys
[20:59] <godling> good night sir
[20:59] <fire|bird> hey suddenness|bellhop
[20:59] <fire|bird> err Urchlay
[20:59] <fire|bird> see ya LnxSlck
[20:59] <LnxSlck> see ya
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[21:00] <godling> man, everyone and their grandmother's got their own ircd
[21:00] <godling> hybrid, ratbox, hyperion, dancer
[21:00] <quasar> my grandmother's dead you insensitive clod !
[21:01] <godling> quasar: but does she have an ircd?
[21:01] <Camarade_Tux> ok, time to go to bed, good night :)
[21:01] <quasar> yes
[21:01] <Urchlay> my grandmother's insensitive, you dead clod!
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[21:01] <quasar> irc.quasarsdeadgrandmother.com:6667
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[21:03] <Urchlay> so what's new & exciting in slacklandia?
[21:03] <godling> Urchlay: Slacklandia?
[21:03] <Urchlay> the fabled Land of Slack
[21:04] <Urchlay> eh, so nothing, I guess
[21:04] <NaCl> King volkerdi isn't around. :P
[21:04] <godling> Oooooh Slacklandia, how we adore yooooouuu. Your ample hills and luscious meaaaadoooows, forever shelter our lack of social liiiiiiiives.
[21:05] <hitest> Slacklandia is very close to fossland
[21:05] <godling> That's a pretty horrible anthem
[21:05] <Urchlay> probably shares a border with Stongbadia
[21:05] <Urchlay> s/St/Str/
[21:07] <godling> Urchlay: Population.. tiiiire.
[21:07] <godling> I really want to stab Windows XP.
[21:07] <quasar> here, use my knife !
[21:07] <hitest> ?
[21:08] <godling> Apparently you can't use diskpart to resize ntfs partitions if they are system partitions
[21:08] <NaCl> IIRC vista lets you do that
[21:08] <hitest> gparted?
[21:08] <godling> I wish I had read that before I spent hours converting the fat32 fs to ntfs _just_ so I could resize it
[21:08] <Urchlay> ouch
[21:09] <godling> hitest: I used gparted finally. I was going to do it initially but I had reservations.
[21:09] <godling> hitest: guess how long it took
[21:09] <godling> hitest: guess!
[21:09] <hitest> how long?
[21:09] <godling> seconds
[21:09] <hitest> loooon time?
[21:09] <hitest> long
[21:09] <hitest> lol
[21:09] <hitest> seconds....cool
[21:10] <godling> because all of the data was all together in the beginning of the partition. I had an extra 3G of space at the end that was just unallocated
[21:10] <godling> this is all for a virtual machine
[21:10] <hitest> ah
[21:11] <godling> 'cause VirtualBox doesn't let you resize disk images
[21:11] <godling> which is lame as hell
[21:11] <hitest> gparted also non-destructively re-sizes an xp partition on an actual HD
[21:12] <godling> yeah I have done wonders with gparted
[21:12] <godling> I love that program
[21:12] <hitest> yep
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[21:13] <godling> of course it's actually just a front-end to gnu parted
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[21:13] <godling> but man there's a lot of developers to congratulate if you wanted to say "hey, great job"
[21:14] <godling> stupid communism
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[21:15] <godling> all of this nonsense to get a working virtual machine I can run masm on
[21:15] <Urchlay> eh, masm, microsoft assembler? the CLI versions of that will run just fine in wine, you know...
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[21:16] <godling> Urchlay: I have several sharp and pointy instruments nearby
[21:16] <Urchlay> (not even sure if MS ever made a GUI version of masm)
[21:16] <godling> not as far as I know
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[21:17] <godling> but I think you can use visual studio
[21:17] <Urchlay> wine masm.exe /options blah.asm   <--- something like that worked fine for me, last time I needed it to (5+ years now)
[21:17] <godling> buuuut, that doesn't matter since my instructor wants us to master the command line
[21:17] <Urchlay> eh, what, the windows command line? wine cmd.exe :)
[21:18] <Urchlay> does your instructor even know bash and/or zsh exists? you could blow his mind...
[21:19] <godling> nah, he's aware
[21:19] <godling> He's just using masm for the class
[21:20] <godling> he told us we could use other assemblers but we'd be on our own for syntax problems specific to those assemblers
[21:20] <Urchlay> should be using nasm or yasm (which work just fine on linux/windows/mac/bsd/etc)
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[21:21] <Urchlay> what class is this anyway? just a class on assembly, or something more specific?
[21:21] <godling> machine architecture
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[21:21] <vastina> x86 style
[21:21] <godling> we're doing 8088
[21:22] <godling> :P
[21:22] <vastina> ooh old-school
[21:22] <Urchlay> just from a software/firmware perspective, or you going to end up building your own wire-wrapped mini-PC motherboard?
[21:22] <vastina> dec vax, then alpha [axp] machine code was fun
[21:23] <Urchlay> and, eh, scratch what I said about nasm/yasm, I don't think they even support old-style 8088-only mode
[21:23] <Urchlay> (you'd forever be writing instructions that assemble fine, but don't exist unless you have a 286/386/etc)
[21:24] <godling> Urchlay: http://www.csupomona.edu/~cs/student/undergrad.html#cs264
[21:24] <Urchlay> back in those days I liked borland's turbo assembler & turbo debugger
[21:24] <godling> yeah I remember borland :)
[21:24] <vastina> bloatland
[21:24] <vastina> haha
[21:25] <vastina> ksh and gnu tools = elegance
[21:25] <Urchlay> turbo assembler 1.0 was nice (didn't even force you to use a particular text editor, IIRC I started out writing asm code with an ancient version of wordstar)
[21:25] <vastina> isn't there a gnu term for a windows desktop cygwin?
[21:26] <vastina> might help godling's instructor with his cli ambitions
[21:26] <Urchlay> I dunno what exactly you're asking about
[21:26] <vastina> doesn't CYGWIN support BASH and other GNU shells?
[21:27] <Urchlay> well yeah
[21:27] <Urchlay> that's what I was talking about above
[21:27] <rk4n3> CYGWIN supports an X display server with xterm
[21:27] <vastina> ah
[21:27] <rk4n3> ... and any shell you want :)
[21:27] <vastina> yep that's what i thought
[21:27] <Urchlay> even if you're a pervert and want to run plan9's rc shell :)
[21:28] <vastina> wow
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[21:30] <godling> vastina: my instructor claims to have been doing assembly for over 30 years
[21:30] <godling> He is just using Windows, is all. :P
[21:30] <Urchlay> so, he's a black belt? :)
[21:31] <godling> what comes after black?
[21:31] <godling> :)
[21:31] <quasar> YELLOW !
[21:31] <vastina> godling: you'd think he'd develop a knack for a more elegant approach to cli emphasis, or he's stuck in faculty politics
[21:31] <godling> well, he's vietnamese quasar
[21:31] <godling> :P
[21:31] <vastina> enough said
[21:32] <quasar> oh, in that case purple
[21:32] <godling> vastina: He's rather adept at moving through the Windows cli.
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[21:32] <godling> It's not unfathomable that some people might like Windows over UNIX-like environments.
[21:33] <vastina> godling: just constricting
[21:33] <vastina> loss of much flexibility
[21:33] <quasar> godling: win32 ports rule :)
[21:35] <godling> quasar: with academic alliance I was going to download ms dos 6 and install it in a vm
[21:36] <init[1]> godling: can't you use *Dos Box?
[21:37] <godling> init[1]: Yes.
[21:37] <quasar> I probably still have 6.22 somewhere around here
[21:37] <quasar> all three disks !
[21:37] <godling> I think I have it on a couple 3.5" disks
[21:37] <quasar> but I dont have a disk drive :\
[21:37] <godling> haha
[21:38] <godling> the price of floppy disks are insane
[21:38] <quasar> oh wait, yes I do.. a USB drive.. no clue where it is though
[21:38] <godling> unless it's gone down
[21:39] <quasar> $39USD/100
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[21:43] <quasar> why would you ever need an 8MP camera phone?! o.O
[21:43] <deco> quasar: to take quick pics of my cat ?
[21:43] <deco> oh waite i don't have one
[21:44] Action: deco goes back to read
[21:44] <quasar> I could understand like.. 3-5MP .. but 8? are you really going to blow it up that much if you're taking the pic on your phone?
[21:45] <deco> quasar: if it's a cat pic yes
[21:46] <quasar> 3ftx4ft picture of a cat.. nice.
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[21:48] <godling> quasar: maybe it's a big cat
[21:49] <quasar> it could eat my mom! and lets not play games here, my mom is a BIG woman!
[21:49] <godling> does your mom know you talk about her like that?
[21:49] <quasar> she supports it
[21:50] <godling> quasar: cats will eat human
[21:50] <quasar> nah, she's not big.. but I'm a fatass and a half
[21:50] <godling> so will dogs
[21:50] <gnubien> woof ;)
[21:50] <deco> o_O
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[21:53] <deco> who let the dogs out! woof woof
[21:53] <quasar> godling: you sound like someone I worked with at the first job I ever had.. guy from Africa.. used to tell us stories about household cats killing people he knew
[21:54] <godling> Cat poop can kill someone with an impaired immune system.
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[21:56] <godling> quasar: I just read this news story about a dog eating its master and the master's wife.
[21:56] <quasar> but to be fair, you could drown in cat piss if I WERE TO HOLD YOUR HEAD IN IT !
[21:56] <godling> quasar: the police showed up and found the old man's head on the patio
[21:56] <quasar> nice what kind of dog?
[21:56] <godling> the article didn't say
[21:57] <quasar> bah.. I call bullshit then.
[21:57] <godling> wouldn't it be nuts if it were like a Yorkshire Terrier, though?
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[21:57] <quasar> rofl pomeranian
[21:57] <godling> hang on, I will grep the logs for the url
[21:57] <quasar> fucking barking houseshoes
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[21:58] <godling> quasar: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409885/Dog-eats-dead-master-wife.html
[21:58] <godling> "believed to be a German Shepherd"
[21:58] <godling> I must have not remembered
[21:59] <rk4n3> that's sad
[21:59] <godling> My point is that when puppies lick your face it is because they think you are tasty.
[21:59] <quasar> that's funny .. I lick people's face before I eat them too O.O
[21:59] <godling> rk4n3: Yes, it is a tragedy.
[22:00] <godling> c'est la vie
[22:00] Action: godling smokes and drinks wine
[22:00] <gnubien> quasar: good plan ;/
[22:00] <rk4n3> however, I know that a cat won't always eat human, even if starving.  My wife's uncle died and wasn't found for almost 3 months, and his cat was in the house with him, and sadly had to be put down because of near-starvation - hadn't touched the body at all
[22:00] <godling> rk4n3: I think it probably depends on how feral the animal is.
[22:00] <rk4n3> still makes me sad to think about the poor kitty
[22:01] <wubbster> what bittorrent clients do you people use? i don't want to reinstall deluge, it takes too long :/
[22:01] <rk4n3> rtorrent
[22:02] <wubbster> ooo, forgot about that
[22:02] <deco> wubbster: transmission
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[22:04] <wubbster> i haven't tried transmission so ima try it out :D
[22:04] <godling> when I used bittorrent before I either used qtorrent or btdownloadcurses.py
[22:04] <godling> I didn't like transmission.
[22:04] <godling> I don't remember why.
[22:05] <godling> I wonder what ctorrent is like.
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[22:05] <thrice`> ctorrent's webpage claims it's been dead since 2006
[22:06] <wubbster> enhanced ctorrent is still active though, isn't it?
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[22:07] <godling> "Bram Cohen is the genius behind BitTorrent."
[22:07] <godling> Is he really a genius?
[22:07] <deco> tout est chaos
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[22:14] <wubbster> cool, transmission was just what i was looking for :D
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[22:17] <deco> wubbster: \o/
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[22:21] <silent> Hello, can someone help me compile soundKonverter?  I've managed to compile without libmp4v2, but I get make errors once I include libmp4v2.
[22:22] <mfillpot> silent: is this from a slackbuild?
[22:22] <silent> mfillpot, no I could not find a slackbuild that would work.
[22:23] <silent> mfillpot, I could pastebin the slackbuild that I wrote to compile without libmp4v2
[22:23] <mfillpot> silent: that would help
[22:24] <silent> mfillpot, it's really rough (I'm a noob) but here it is http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/0aAHlc38.html
[22:25] <BP{k}> why not use the slackbuild from SBo?
[22:25] <silent> BP{k}, I could not find one.
[22:26] <BP{k}> silent: wait for libmp4v2 or soundconverter?
[22:26] <mfillpot> silent: are you intentionally making this for kde3 and qt3?
[22:26] <silent> BP{k}, yep.  It's suppose to work.
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[22:27] <silent> mfillpot, I couldn't compile without kde3 or qt3
[22:27] <silent> BP{k}, for soundKonverter
[22:27] <BP{k}> silent: couldn't you find a slackbuild for libmp4vs (which is definately on SBO), or for soundkonverter (which isn't)
[22:27] <BP{k}> gotcha. :)
[22:27] <ibrahim> I'm trying to get my ati driver to work but I'm on 64-bit, I think that is what is causing xorg server to crash when I opt for fglrx. How shall I resolve this?\
[22:27] <sahko> does anyone know how to switch tabs in konsole/konqueror/KDE in genefal?
[22:27] <sahko> genefail
[22:27] <BP{k}> sahko: ctrl - # where # is a number?
[22:27] <silent> BP{k}, I wish that would have solved it, but sadly there's only one on slacky for 12.2
[22:28] <sahko> BP{k}: doesnt work. is that the default?
[22:28] <BP{k}> sahko: vague random guess, to be honest. I stopped using kde.
[22:28] <sahko> alt+n , ctrl+n were my first guesses too, but none works
[22:28] <silent> mfillpot, the exact errors is: No rule to make target mp4properties.lo, needed by libtagmp4.la
[22:29] <sahko> and i couldnt find anything in the global kde keybinds for that
[22:30] <BP{k}> sahko: frankly konsole really annoyed me compared to 3.5.10
[22:30] <mfillpot> silent: unfortunately I don't have kde3 or the qt3 libraries installed so I can't push too far in the assistance.  But your script seems sane, including the attempt to add a patch.  the greatest issue I have seen with this is that many people have had to write patches to make it work.
[22:30] <sahko> BP{k}: luckily i havent ever used kde, so i cant be dissapointed with the new version. kde4 is great afai am consered. and it looks better than 3
[22:30] <silent> mfillpot, I'm wondering if I've set the right dir for libmp4v2, because the script works without libmp4v2
[22:30] <BP{k}> sahko: yeah, but looks ain't everything ;)
[22:31] <silent> sahko, looks can be deceiving.
[22:31] <mfillpot> silent: have you greped the source to find the references to mp4properties.lo and see what the source is trying to do?
[22:31] <sahko> looks were the reason i didnt even try 3.x.y
[22:31] <sahko> qt3 looks like gtk1
[22:31] <silent> sahko, kde3 is much stabler.  But kde4 is slowing getting there.
[22:31] <sahko> or worst..
[22:31] <silent> mfillpot, how would I do that exactly?
[22:32] <mfillpot> cd {source directory};grep -r mp4properties.lo *
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[22:33] <silent> mfillpot, I've find the dir that's referred in but there's nothing but the makefiles.
[22:34] <silent> mfillpot, secondly I don't know much about makefiles
[22:34] <ibrahim> I'm trying to get my ati driver to work but I'm on 64-bit, I think that is what is causing xorg server to crash when I opt for fglrx. How shall I resolve this?\
[22:34] <BP{k}> silent: in general your slackbuild looks sane enough. but I can't say without further testing.
[22:35] <silent> BP{k}, thank slackbuilds.org for the template to rworkman's wiki.  I don't know anything past those two things.
[22:35] <silent> *and
[22:35] <BP{k}> silent: that's how we all started ;)
[22:36] <silent> mfillpot, I think this mp4properties is from taglibs
[22:36] <silent> BP{k}, well I got bored with ubuntu.
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[22:37] <BP{k}> silent: hehe, I am currently compiling libmp4v2, to see if that offers lbtagmp4
[22:38] <thrice`> eek, a raw make install-strip ?
[22:38] <mfillpot> BP{k}: would silent's error be a sign of a missing dependency?
[22:38] <neonflux> thrice`: yeah, I just saw that
[22:38] <silent> mfillpot, maybe I'm missing something to compile the taglib includes?
[22:38] <thrice`> silent: your slackbuild should not spam / at all
[22:39] <BP{k}> thrice`: hmm good spot. silent: ^^ you might really want to change that in make install-strip DESTDIR=$PKG
[22:39] <thrice`> line 61 will do just that
[22:39] <thrice`> merge your line 60 and 61
[22:39] <silent> thrice`, thanks.  I'm still learning.
[22:39] <thrice`> make install-strip DESTDIR=$PKG  or so
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[22:39] <BP{k}> mfillpot: I would say problably.
[22:39] <thrice`> silent: sure :)  the point of a slackbuild is to install stuff to a temporary location, to create a package.  yours will do that, but will also install on the system (this is a bad thing)
[22:40] <silent> thrice`, oh, so any remedy to uninstall?
[22:40] <silent> thrice`, just make uninstall?
[22:41] <thrice`> yeah; or, install the package, and then removepkg it
[22:41] <spook> [ in bed ]
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[22:41] <thrice`> (since, theoretically, installing the package will over-write everything "make install" did)
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[22:41] <silent> thrice`, thanks for pointing it out.  It's fixed and won't happen again. :-)
[22:42] <silent> mfillpot, BP{k}, so what kind of dep should I be looking for?
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[22:45] <mfillpot> silent: through a quick google search I am seeing a references to building mp4properties in ffmpeg
[22:45] <silent> Here's a slackbuild that works (without libmp4v2): http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.2/multimedia/soundkonverter/0.3.10/src/soundkonverter.SlackBuild
[22:45] <silent> mfillpot, I've build ffmpeg without problems using slackbuilds.org
[22:46] <mfillpot> silent: are you suing multilib?
[22:46] <BP{k}> silent: I *think* you will need to compile taglib.
[22:46] <thrice`> BP{k}: doesn't taglib come with slackware? :)
[22:46] <fire|bird> yes
[22:47] <silent> BP{k}, that's what I thought too?
[22:47] <BP{k}> thrice`: uhm .yes.
[22:47] <thrice`> hum hum
[22:47] <silent> BP{k}, so recompile?
[22:47] <BP{k}> thrice`: I haven't had any beer tonight! .. that's my excuse
[22:48] <ibrahim> I'm trying to get my ati driver to work but I'm on 64-bit, I think that is what is causing xorg server to crash when I opt for fglrx. How shall I resolve this?\
[22:48] <fire|bird> Excuse Invalid......Please try again. ;)
[22:48] <BP{k}> fire|bird: Darn good idea, I will try beer again ;l)
[22:48] <silent> mfillpot, maybe :-)  I thought it was interesting when I got ffmpeg to compile but not soundkonverter
[22:48] <fire|bird> BP{k}: haha. alright.
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[22:49] <mfillpot> silent: I am asking about multilib because it seems suspicious that it wouldn't ind the dep that is installed, but if they are in different directories then that would definitely explain it.
[22:50] <silent> mfillpot, ind?  I don't understand the abbrev.
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[22:51] <nyRednek> mfillpot, using multilib
[22:51] <mfillpot> sorry I misspelled multilib
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[22:52] <nyRednek> mfillpot, sometimes, config files fail to find your native 64bit libs
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[22:52] <silent> nyRednek, if it helps I'm on 34bit
[22:52] <nyRednek> s/config files/configure scripts
[22:52] <silent> *32bit
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[22:53] <thrice`> BP{k}: fair enough :>
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[22:57] <BP{k}> sahko: looking at konsole, the only thing I can find is "ctrl-shit-{left,right}" to navigate tabs. direct tabs isn't configured by the looks ofit
[22:57] <silent> So where to?
[22:59] <mfillpot> silent: are you running 32-bit, 64-bit or multilib?
[22:59] <BP{k}> well, probably finding out where this libtagmp4.la comes from
[22:59] <silent> mfillpot, 32-bit
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[23:00] <silent> BP{k}, libtagmp4.la doesn't even exist on my computer. ???
[23:00] <mfillpot> silent: have you run locate to see if any files exist under the name mp4properties?
[23:00] <silent> mfillpot, no, but I've run find
[23:01] <mfillpot> silent: did you get any results with find?
[23:01] <silent> mfillpot, yes under /usr/include/taglib/
[23:01] <fire|bird> BP{k}: For konsole, you just need Shift + left or right arrow
[23:02] <BP{k}> fire|bird: ah who uses konsole anyway :)
[23:02] <fire|bird> BP{k}: Well, at times I do. :P
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[23:04] <silent> mfillpot, from what I understand the makefiles are just refering to taglib includes.  Should I pastebin the makefiles?
[23:05] <sahko> BP{k}: yes also plain shift+arrows works without ctrl. (i asked in #kde)
[23:05] <mfillpot> silent: I am looking at the Makefile now
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[23:06] <silent> mfillpot, ok
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[23:08] <mfillpot> silent: the source of that app is flawed, it is referring to mp4properties.cpp which does not exist
[23:09] <silent> mfillpot, I was wondering about that.  Though I knew nothing, so I said nothing.  How is it flaw?
[23:09] <silent> *Where
[23:10] <mfillpot> silent: if the build script is calling to build from files that do not exist I call it is flaw others would call it is nice bug.
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[23:11] <silent> mfillpot, so how do I go about fixing, or leave it up to someone more experienced?
[23:11] <mfillpot> silent: src/metadata/mp4/Makefile.in line 369:     mp4properties.cpp \
[23:11] <lowspeed> any way to fix the pointer artifact that sometimes occurs with the radeon driver?
[23:11] <silent> mfillpot, I remember looking for the file and not finding it.  So should I just delete the line?
[23:12] <mfillpot> silent: because this is called as an internal source file we cannot appropriately assume that we know what the contents of the file would be, I would say drop the build until a future release and hope the author finds that and any other missing references
[23:13] <silent> mfillpot, ok.  Could you refer me to some similar program?
[23:13] <mfillpot> silent: also based upon this issue being so soon in the build, I would guess that other files may be missing, even if you can work around this issue others may exist
[23:14] <silent> mfillpot, I think this might the only one since I did successfully build soundkonverter without libmp4v2
[23:14] <mfillpot> silent: it is only a front end to some cli based converters why don't you just use the cli converters?
[23:15] <silent> mfillpot, I could I guess.  Just not use to audio stuff in cli. I've tried abcde and it seems good.
[23:16] <mfillpot> Does anyone else have some recommendations for silent to get a GUI based audio converter that we hopefully have a build for in slackbuilds?
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[23:17] <silent> mfillpot, I'll just get over my ubuntu tendencies and stick with abcde.  But I won't object to a GUI
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[23:18] <fire|bird> mfillpot: There isn't really anything on SBo gui-wise for that.
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[23:18] <mfillpot> I really don't play around with audio or video so I can't really recommend anything
[23:19] <fire|bird> I do, but I use cli stuff. :P
[23:19] <silent> mfillpot, well thanks again.  This might be the nth time you've helped me.
[23:19] <silent> I'll just learn how to config abcde
[23:19] <mfillpot> silent: I am always glad to try to help, I learn a little more each time
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[23:20] <silent> mfillpot, wish I could help others, but I'm not that experienced
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[23:21] <mfillpot> silent: you already know more about audio conversions than, the trick to to help when and where you can ;)
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[23:22] <silent> mfillpot, well I guess I'll drop in when I can. (not often though, still in high school)
[23:22] <BP{k}> silent: well it does help hanging out here and listening to the question. You can learn loads by researching stuff. :)
[23:22] <fire|bird> The old versions of amarok had scripts to convert audio stuff, but amarok 2.x has nothing, and I don't think it supports scripts yet. :P
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[23:23] <godling> man
[23:23] <silent> BP{k}, I find myself answer my own question once I'm on here.
[23:23] <godling> adobe's got a downloader now?
[23:23] <BP{k}> silent: hehe, yeah, that happends to all of us. ;)
[23:23] <silent> fire|bird, sad thing.  I've switched to songbird for the moment.
[23:24] <fire|bird> silent: yeah, hopefully it will get scripting back eventually.
[23:24] <silent> fire|bird, hopefully.  I really like amarok 1.4 but amarok 2 has put me off quite significantly
[23:25] <witukind> same here
[23:25] <usr13> exit
[23:25] <fire|bird> fail
[23:25] <fire|bird> :P
[23:25] <witukind> but mostly KDE4 has put me off
[23:26] <mfillpot> hopefully in time kde4 and the base apps will evolve into something we like, after all they can always look at the kde3 set for ideas
[23:26] <silent> witukind, I'm find kde4 it's just a little bloated.  I used gnome (ubuntu), kde3 (ubuntu), kde4, and I'm stuck on flux
[23:26] <witukind> just a little :D
[23:27] <witukind> I had actually high hopes that QT4 would mean KDE4 would use less RAM than KDE3... guess I got it wrong ^^
[23:27] <silent> another libmp4v2 question, has one got it to work with faac?
[23:27] <silent> *anyone
[23:28] <nyRednek> silent, use juk
[23:28] <witukind> I used KDE 3.5 was usable on a 700Mhz CPU with 128 megs of RAM... now even Xfce would be barely usable on this
[23:28] <nyRednek> witukind, actually, xfce is unchanged from slack 12.2
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[23:29] <sahko> nyRednek: no it isnt.
[23:29] <nyRednek> and if you really want a skinny wm, fvwm is unchanged for a few years
[23:29] <silent> kde3 ran fine on 1.6Ghz and 1gb ram but I don't dream of put kde4 on that.
[23:29] <nyRednek> sahko, i didn't notice any difference
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[23:29] <witukind> nyRedneck, tried fvwm like 6 or 7 years ago it sucked
[23:29] <sahko> nyRednek: look harder
[23:29] <fire|bird> nyRednek: xfce went from 4.4 to 4.6
[23:29] <fire|bird> and there's differences, noticeable ones.
[23:30] <nyRednek> fire|bird, then again, you know my wm
[23:30] <silent> disconnect(Thanks)
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[23:30] <BP{k}> yeah .. 4.6.1 is a lot better that 4.4 :) I am looking forward to 4.8
[23:30] <witukind> fire|bird, in fact Xfce 4.6 just got there in time to replace KDE 3.5 functionality-wise
[23:30] <nyRednek> witukind, it doesn't suck when you learn how to configure it
[23:30] <mfillpot> with all of this talk I need to jsut back into xfce to check out the changes
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[23:31] <mfillpot> brb
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[23:31] <BP{k}> especially with some of the XFCE goodies at sbo .. xfce makes for a nice de.
[23:31] <fire|bird> BP{k}: When is 4.8 coming out? I'm looking forward to it as well.
[23:31] <fire|bird> lol, I have all the xfce goodies installed. :P
[23:31] <thrice> April or something
[23:31] <witukind> nyRednek, I did that 6, 7 years ago, also AfterStep, WindowMaker, Fvwm95... but it just sucks
[23:31] <BP{k}> fire|bird: april 2010 or so
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[23:31] <fire|bird> Ah, ok. I hadn't looked into it at all. Thanks BP{k}, thrice :)
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[23:32] <nyRednek> you know, i miss afterstep
[23:32] <nyRednek> i should install it
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[23:32] <fire|bird> xfce is really nice, I've been using it alot lately, especially since KDE + compositing has been causing X crashes. I think I fixed it though with a new xorg.conf
[23:32] <nyRednek> but then again, i'd lose my cool animated background(xlock -nolock -inroot -mode random)
[23:33] <wubbster> fire|bird, xfce > *
[23:33] <wubbster> :D
[23:33] <BP{k}> fire|bird: http://gezeiten.org/post/2009/09/Xfce-4-8-Release-Cycle-Information
[23:34] <witukind> fire|bird: indeed Xfce is really nice, and 4.8 will be killer
[23:34] <fire|bird> BP{k}: Hmm, not loading, but bookmarked none the less. That's happened to a few other sites today too though, I think it's my ISP DNS or something.
[23:35] <fire|bird> Ah, now it did.
[23:35] <thrice`> thunar is getting the exciting changes
[23:35] <fire|bird> witukind: I'm certainly looking forward to 4.8, and until then, enjoying 4.6
[23:35] <fire|bird> thrice`: tabs? :P
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[23:36] <thrice`> and network stuff :)
[23:36] <witukind> fire|bird, yep enjoying it too right now :)
[23:36] <thrice`> er, not "and" .  not sure of tabs :P
[23:36] <fire|bird> reading that link now, 4.8 is looking great.
[23:36] <fire|bird> alot of work being done.
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[23:37] <rhys> 4.8?
[23:37] <witukind> there was a release of Parole a few days ago and that filled in a gap, could remove xine-ui and xine-libs and just use gstreamer without having to have gnome deps
[23:37] <hitest> I love xfce 4.6.1. so what's new in 4.8?
[23:37] <fire|bird> rhys: xfce 4.8
[23:37] <neonflux> same here...just switched to xfce a couple weeks ago
[23:38] <sahko> hitest: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2009-September/025914.html
[23:38] <neonflux> and like it a lot
[23:38] <hitest> thanks, sahko, click
[23:38] <fire|bird> witukind: yeah, I had parole going, but not anymore, it needs updated gtk and glib, so I only tried it when I had gsb installed for a few days.
[23:38] <rhys> ah. cute for what it is, but not a fan. Not as useful as either more minimalist things like xmonad, and not as powerful as KDE4.
[23:38] <witukind> hitest, Thunar is ported to GIO for one thing, so it should be even lighter since it won't be using it's own libs to do the same thing as GIO
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[23:39] <witukind> fire|bird, I compiled 0.1.90 yesterday or something, but granted I have gtk+ 1.18.2
[23:39] <mfillpot> I am seeing some of the differences in xfce 4.6, it is getting better
[23:39] <thrice`> I like it because it provides some nice DE functionality, but doesn't ship shitty apps that I wouldn't use anyway (k-crap)
[23:39] <fire|bird> witukind: yeah, it sure is a nice media ap.
[23:39] <fire|bird> app*
[23:39] <witukind> fire|bird, FINALLY a simple media player with no gnome deps
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[23:40] <fire|bird> witukind: yeah
[23:40] <witukind> and also there are nice visualisations :)
[23:40] <witukind> too bad Audacious can't do that
[23:41] <rhys> thrice`, I am a big fan of "kdemod" for archlinux. everything is properly seperated. kdemod-minimal doesn't ship anything really.
[23:41] <thrice`> outside of kwin, I basically hate all kde apps :)
[23:41] <rhys> the apps will work within the DE, but you can easily throw on things. Kopete and Quassel are just horrid.
[23:42] <rhys> plasma ?
[23:42] <agentc0re> for you space junkies out there: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=67559AD7CE683660
[23:42] <wubbster> for you junkies out there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin
[23:42] <witukind> KDE4's RAM requirements are just insane
[23:42] <fire|bird> witukind: audacious can do vizualizations.
[23:42] <thrice`> no, I dislike konsole, konqueror, kopete, dolphin to name a few.  such things are probably 80% of the apps I use
[23:43] <witukind> fire|bird, sure but not the nice ones Gstreamer has :)
[23:43] <fire|bird> witukind: no, but better than nothing. :P
[23:43] <fire|bird> I look using goom
[23:43] <wubbster> i have NEVER had a use for visualizations
[23:43] <rhys> witukind, requirements? i don't know if you noticed... but 2gb is standard now. and costs about 30$.
[23:43] <godling> wubbster: so you're saying you've never done lsd?
[23:43] <godling> :P
[23:44] <wubbster> godling, thats entirely different :D
[23:44] <witukind> rhys, I don't even want to notice
[23:44] <witukind> I refuse to notice, it's insane
[23:44] <witukind> with 2 gigs of RAM there are better things to do
[23:45] <rhys> oop. My normal desktop uses 1/4 of my ram. firefox, pidgin, xchat, dia, openoffice, all on top of kde. 538MB. what am I using the other 1.5GB for?
[23:45] <witukind> 538 megs is insane
[23:45] <witukind> it should do the same thing with 128 megs
[23:45] <witukind> easily
[23:46] <fire|bird> witukind: I had it up to 600+ MB once. :P
[23:46] <thrice`> not with firefox and openoffice running
[23:46] <godling> rhys: multiple virtual machines?
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[23:46] <witukind> thrice, granted firefox + openoffice is out of the picture, or any modern web browser for that matter
[23:46] <thrice`> my XFCE with pidgin, FF, and 2 terminals is using 458mb
[23:47] <rhys> i should say konsole too. i used htop for that number
[23:47] <thrice`> xfce really isn't lighter in that sense; it just ships less apps
[23:47] <witukind> 249 megs here with xfce, pidgin, ff, terminal, xchat, audacious
[23:48] <thrice`> must be 32-bit? :)
[23:48] <witukind> that's too much though, I could do the same thing with kde 3, amarok 1.4, konversation, kopete, konsole with 128 megs of ram
[23:48] <witukind> thrice, yes
[23:48] <rhys> witukind, seriously though. I type pacman -S kdemod and it works in 3-4 minutes of downloading. If I figure 200mb of ram, multiple hours of configuring smaller DE's or window managers to do what I want. The cost of 200mb of ram vs 2 hours of my time, it doesn't make sense to bother.
[23:49] <godling> I'm using almost all of my memory and ~19MB of swap
[23:49] <godling> (all == 2GB)
[23:49] <witukind> sure, if you want to live in the endless circle of hardware upgrades
[23:49] <rhys> godling, 35$, OCZ http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007331&prodlist=froogle
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[23:50] <godling> firefox bloomed from using 238MB to 500+
[23:51] <witukind> firefox and X are the main memory suckers
[23:51] <godling> rhys: I'm using a laptop
[23:51] <godling> I'm also using VirtualBox
[23:51] <godling> 924MB
[23:51] <rhys> witukind, time amigo. There was a time when 35$ WAS worth multiple days of my time configuring xmonad and all the manual things underneath it to do just what I wanted on my compaq laptop from 2000 with 256MB of ram. And then I got a job. and it just wasn't anymore
[23:52] <godling> that's just hte vm
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[23:52] <witukind> rhys, so you give in to the racket of capitalists
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[23:52] <godling> altogether, all of the vbox services are taking up ~1.4G
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[23:53] <witukind> the bottom line is as long as the hardware works it should continue to be useed
[23:53] <witukind> *used
[23:53] <witukind> and we'd have less landfills full of PCs
[23:54] <rhys> witukind, of all people I think I have a serious issue with wasteful consumerism. I know the argument. I just don't think it applys in this case. I haven't bought new electronics since....my phone? The last time I bought a PC (the parts) was 5 years ago. its long dead.
[23:54] <witukind> there was a time when you could smile at Windows users because you do much more with the same PC with Linux, nowadays it's not really true
[23:55] <rhys> I've lived off the scraps of everyone else since then. My desktop was a trade for a dualproc 1ghz G4 i found in the dump. My laptop is a dell 510 from work.
[23:55] <witukind> rhys, I still have my Amstrad PC1512, still alive an kicking :)
[23:55] <rhys> witukind, so you want to talk about waste, how much power do you waste with that thing?
[23:56] <rhys> i have so many old working machines that I threw out because the difference in the power bill for 6 months would pay for a new machine.
[23:56] Action: hitest really likes this AMD 900 MHz, with 320 MB RAM, slackware 13.0 and fluxbox.
[23:56] <witukind> rhys, you've got a point, too much, I'm thinking about getting an embedded PC that uses just ~5 watts
[23:57] <witukind> rhys, but to do what I need right now as far as OSes, there's no good solution... Haiku sounds like a good thing but it can't do what I need yet
[23:58] <rhys> also for what godling is doing. I need to run windows for my job. I thought about buying a new laptop to virtualize etc etc. But 1) I can buy 2 netbooks, run a different OS on each, save power AND 400$ on a high powered laptop. and 2) I can just keep this old dell510, throw one of the 50 servers i have stacked in the back with 2003 server and RDP into it.
[23:59] <rhys> Haiku looks awesome.
[23:59] <witukind> it is
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