[00:00] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] hiptobecubic: nothing is installed on this computer as of now [00:00] what I want is XP+slackware [00:01] fogus, install xp first [00:01] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: ":)" [00:01] hiptobecubic: I agree, but I want to truecrypt my XP and I don't want to overwrite my xp boot loader (which will be the truecrypt bootloader) [00:01] hiptobecubic: I read a lot of the slackbook [00:01] fogus, install xp, and leave enough disk space for however large you want your slackware partition. Then install slackware. In most cases, lilo will find windows and set itself up for dual boot. [00:02] Lilo will load the xp bootloader [00:02] I see. I'll try that [00:02] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:02] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:02] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:06] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [00:06] hey am i missing anything here? [00:06] netstat -e -p -t [00:06] what else do i need? [00:06] to do what? [00:07] to see what connections are made, im trying to keep track of established connections [00:07] missyjane, just to look at them? use iptraf [00:07] what can iptraf do that netstat cant? [00:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:12] fogus (n=fogus@d75-157-237-3.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:13] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Ergh. Issues using this prebuilt kernel I downloaded - trying to get some modules. [00:17] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [00:18] iptraf is an improvement on 'watch netstat' [00:18] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-117-63.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-117-63.slkc.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [00:18] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-117-63.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] spook, ooh.. [00:21] you can sort etc. [00:21] interesting.. [00:21] its for superkaramba [00:21] bleh im sorry but i cant keep up [00:21] good night [00:21] night [00:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:22] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:22] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] mkhalleb (n=BlahBlha@75-119-236-176.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:24] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Good morning Slackers [00:26] evening DeiBellum [00:26] g'day mate [00:26] spook: Well, the lappy has a different mobo now too. :P [00:27] fire|bird: working now? [00:27] spook: yeah, really well now. :) [00:28] now that the fans are all spinning [00:28] spinning fans on a laptop are always a plus [00:29] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:32] Family_guy (n=ecnrdoi@189.82.72.207) left irc: "The person who reads too much and uses his brain too little will fall into lazy habits of thinking." [00:32] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [00:32] ok.. [00:33] missyjane: sleep well? [00:34] i dont know, i had a brainfreeze when i laid down ont he bed >< [00:34] thats kinda odd. [00:34] spook: yeah, that one still doesn't spin except every now in then, so it has to be ran based on a thermal sensor and only kicks in when necessary, the other one runs all the time. [00:34] fire|bird: uhuh [00:35] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:35] spook: but it's running great and with this different mobo I now have bluetooth. :) [00:36] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:39] blaise (i=blaise@unaffiliated/blaise) left ##slackware. [00:43] is imapd evil if not setup? [00:43] what des it do? [00:43] Am i evil? [00:43] duno [00:44] confess [00:44] yes i am [00:44] k [00:44] I am man [00:44] what about imapd? [00:44] dunno [00:44] k [00:44] ask fire|bird [00:44] does anyone here use ifngerprint scanner? [00:45] nop [00:45] chmod 666 imapd [00:45] no reason to [00:45] mancha what it do? [00:45] the number of the beast duh [00:46] well i duno its proto so i cant get it to do anything. what uses it? [00:46] imap is a mail protocol [00:46] ok what sw uses it? [00:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:47] any sw that connects to imap servers [00:47] i would guess imapd is for mail servers or smthin [00:47] name one [00:47] hmm yea [00:48] name one? i check out of this thread [00:48] Subway > Quiznos [00:48] missyjane: i'd love to try setting one up. [00:48] missyjane: but never had the chance to [00:49] i think its one of things that will work (better) with pam [00:49] multigear > superGear [00:49] Isn't Pam evil? [00:49] hjm [00:49] IMO it is. [00:49] i quit her in the 90s [00:49] PAM is only evil if the person configuring it doesn't know what they are doing [00:50] isn't antiwire evil? [00:50] lol [00:50] wicked, not evil [00:51] Nick change: antiwire -> wickedwire [00:52] i cant chg nick cuz +b in ##Linux [00:53] bastards [00:53] heh [00:53] Nick change: wickedwire -> antiwire [00:54] channel bans stop one from changing nicks? [00:54] you're +b in ##linux? [00:54] yes and yes [00:54] antiwire: yup [00:54] why? [00:54] b for devoiced [00:54] I didn't know that [00:54] bc i wont put up with stuffer abuse [00:54] because /nick screwyouopswhobannnedme [00:54] and i spoke up [00:54] then /part [00:54] nah; i'm a reminder of their evil [00:55] this has been going on for years [00:55] since they rebelled after lilo left the building. [00:55] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10307182-37.html [00:55] whats that rat? [00:56] iphones deposit checks at USAA bank [00:56] oh yea. [00:56] pretty crazy [00:56] yea, i'd like to see the law authorising that [00:56] no USAA bank here [00:56] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] nor down here afaik [00:57] iCash and iBanking [00:57] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest77978 [00:57] we only got 1 Bank of America here too [00:57] it's a military bank [00:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:57] well; thats how things start, in the military [00:57] Nick change: Guest77978 -> fire|bird [00:57] WB fire|bird [00:57] the post office during federal war [00:58] thanks superGear [00:58] I missed you [00:58] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-250-131-210.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:58] it must be loooooooove [00:58] We all missed you! [00:58] especially Quiznos [00:59] xoxo [00:59] good viewing of -ites in chicagoland [00:59] tho Quiznos is too lame to read BitchX.doc [00:59] tonight [00:59] heh [00:59] why are you using BitchX anyways [00:59] superGear: s/to read BitchX.dc// :P [00:59] irssi ftw [01:00] i like it; i have it setup for me for years now [01:00] irssi is good but i dont know if my scripts are portable [01:00] tho i use xchat [01:00] Quiznos: you do know that BitchX has been eol'd for a while now, right? [01:00] yea [01:00] BitchX is dead [01:00] basically [01:00] the name is what was the problem [01:00] Clouds: Overcast 400 ft [01:00] i'm screwed [01:01] wel its foss [01:01] bummer [01:01] antiwire: What'd you plan on doing? [01:01] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [01:01] sounds like flying [01:01] the -ites in Perseod [01:01] perseid [01:01] ah nvm [01:01] good moaning [01:01] antiwire your locale? [01:01] hi di [01:01] dive: hey [01:01] I'm on the coast in an area the is foggy quite often [01:01] that is* [01:01] which one? [01:02] west coast [01:02] so cal [01:02] could be new foundland for all i know [01:02] ok [01:02] ... [01:02] SmelLA [01:02] heh [01:02] seriously, he tells you he lives on the coast and you guess New Foundland? ..... [01:02] he said foggy [01:02] knew it couldnt be new emgland [01:03] lol [01:03] i thought of san fran [01:03] i didnt want to assoom [01:03] lol [01:03] Quiznos: I'm in the Midwest and it gets foggy sometimes. :P [01:03] he's a little dose of reality...SoCal isn't always sunny OMGZ [01:03] but antiwire isn't gay [01:03] did you guys know that? it's not always sunny in socal. that might come as a shock [01:03] antiwire: Well, he's probably not the ray of sunshine that'll take the fog away. :P [01:03] Denver more sunny than SoCal! [01:04] It never rains in California [01:04] liar [01:04] bs, we get monsoons in this area [01:04] epic rain [01:04] hey that's what some song said [01:04] yep [01:04] the song [01:05] it [01:05] never rain in california [01:05] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] ok; found the lyrics; gonna sing acopello [01:06] Cali sucks anyways [01:06] lantins (n=lantins@scarlett.lon.lividpenguin.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] it's got The Terminator for Governor [01:06] it's crowded and that is what leads to most of the issues we have here [01:06] good song [01:07] wow 1972 [01:07] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:07] i was born in 1973 :( [01:08] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.124) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Quiznos: you're gonna sing. Thank goodness this is just irc with no sound. [01:08] yet [01:08] superGear: if you tell us where we might be able to guess your SSN [01:08] cough it up [01:08] Quiznos: and, btw, it's A cappella :) [01:09] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [01:09] dive: Well, hopefully that won't get implemented any time soon, it works just fine how it is. :P [01:09] Hello! [01:09] hi [01:09] it's pri4pus [01:09] fire|bird, text > * [01:09] is it possible to wget only the files with a specified extension, keeping also the folder structure intact ? [01:09] dive: ++ [01:09] reallove yes [01:09] fire|bird, in fact text > ˆ - snowflake? [01:09] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:09] :O [01:10] fire|bird it's singing solo FTW [01:10] bahaha [01:10] I know what a cappella means. :) [01:10] im capo [01:10] mancha: looking on the wget options but seems I miss that option [01:10] dive: could be a snowflake, or a star of some sort. [01:11] fiyawerx (i=HydraIRC@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] damn st:v preempted [01:11] life sux [01:11] you sux [01:11] you all sux [01:11] Well, you don't have to stay if you feel that way. :D [01:11] fiyawerx where in pennsy? [01:11] Quiznos, scranton area [01:11] fire|bird they pre-empted st:ng [01:12] fuzzix no crap; i was in w-b unfortunately-fortunately, 12y [01:12] i got out a few years ago [01:12] yeah, i moved to albany for a while, recently moved back with the wife [01:12] still miss a few people up there. [01:12] kool [01:12] GET OUT OF LUZERN [01:12] lol [01:12] heh [01:12] im actually in old forge [01:12] the judges are uevil. [01:12] ok [01:12] yeah judges, school admins, you name it [01:13] wget -A.extension http://blah.bleh.com [01:13] nods; i know [01:13] fire|bird, hows the laptop holding up? [01:13] dive: It's doing excellent now. [01:13] fiyawerx so whatcha doin here? [01:14] rworkman, around? [01:14] nop [01:14] so, ive been itching for a change on my media center, anyone know of a reason slackware wouldn't be good? pretty much my basic needs are some sort of music server (thinking jinzora), can share the media files to 2 other machines on the network (thinking amarok / mysql backend on the server?) - and running virtualbox + windows for netflix streaming [01:14] not talking yet [01:14] slackware can do [01:14] just install what you need [01:14] then other random linuxy stuff for me to remote in and mess with while im bored at work [01:15] sure, slack can do [01:15] im not looking forward to seeing how my video card performs though, still have to research that [01:15] name itr [01:15] its an integrated hd3200 on a 780g motherboard [01:15] It's good, but not great [01:15] grep slack changelog for 12.2 [01:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:16] yeah, dont need any gaming or anything fancy, just fs video and in vbox / windows too [01:16] 1080 [01:16] i mean; grep the slack-12.2 changelog for that [01:17] fiyawerx: It should do 1080 offloading under Windows but not Linux. radeon should support it in 2D, but forget about 3D unless you want to tangle with fglrx [01:19] dont mind using proprietary, as long as it'll work for me, yeah its been working fine under windows, i do have a discrete card i can use in it, but would prefer the lower power of onboard if i can get away with it [01:19] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. [01:19] its a radeon 3400 or 3450 i forget the # [01:20] in windows using it in xfire, dont need it tho, it was 20$ so i figured what the heck [01:20] my other real alternative is running a linux virtual machine on windows 7, but that just feels wrong [01:21] blah, too much light pollution here to see the meteor shower :( [01:21] bummer quasar [01:22] quasar check anyway, now and in 3-4 hours [01:22] I Just came in, been out there for about 30min.. but yeah, I'll go back out in a bit.. doubt I'll be able to see anything though [01:22] ok [01:23] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:23] fiyawerx: I'm using slack as a media center...xbmc is what I'm using [01:24] on coast to coast am radio show; discussing the -ites now [01:24] hmm, yeah i really like boxee, havn't tried xbmc, but netflix streaming is a must [01:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [01:24] fiyawerx: I couldn't get boxee to compile on slackware [01:24] o_o [01:25] just me, though... [01:25] hmm [01:25] I wish I could use boxee [01:25] redtricycle what are its deps? [01:25] you couldnt find a binpkg? [01:25] Well...compiling from source [01:25] url? [01:25] they have a deb for ubuntu [01:25] nm goog [01:25] www.boxee.tv... [01:25] you need a username [01:25] to dl [01:25] i should install slack on my desktop and use distcc, lot more processor power on this new machine than on the htpc [01:26] redtricycle boxee-arch-helper? [01:27] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [01:29] is there a generally favored gnome install between gsb and dropline? [01:30] kde [01:30] :) [01:30] no mirrors for [01:30] boxee [01:30] kde 4 really scares me [01:30] still [01:30] gsb would be preferred since dropline has a habit of recompiling slackware packages as i686-specific [01:30] well, see if this link makes you sign in http://dl.boxee.tv/boxee-0.9.14.6992-sources.tar.bz2 [01:31] does it require a login? [01:31] nah - kde's nice [01:31] fiyawerx, yeah what were they smoking? [01:31] hmm, suppose i could give xfce a shot [01:31] you'll also need http://dl.boxee.tv/flashlib-shared-6684.tar.gz [01:32] fiyawerx, you can uninstall kde4 and its qt, and install kde3 and its qt [01:32] from slamd64 [01:32] and i guess my last quesiton is 32 vs 64bit, will have 4 gigs of ram for now, but dont mind losing the overhead if there's compatiblity problems with 64 still [01:32] if you use 64-bit [01:33] be carefull, though. kde4 may have issues with kde3 installed at the same time. check the readme's carefully [01:34] redtricycle dont you have the tarballs i'd need? [01:34] well hell, already have the 12.2 dvd, here goes nothin' (on the desktop at least) [01:35] boxee isnt free for all the searching ive done [01:35] no mirrors; dead urls. [01:35] redtricycle DCC send to me [01:36] its 164 megs [01:36] heh [01:36] ok [01:36] you can wget it.. worked for me anyway [01:36] let me see if i can grab a copy of it to my webserver [01:36] k [01:37] anyone ever work with access databases? [01:37] Action: antiwire runs [01:37] nop [01:37] Action: fire|bird trips antiwire. Get him guys, GET HIM. [01:38] alisonken1noc, , what slackware are you running? [01:38] nifty, 10.68M/s [01:38] Action: Quiznos oozes and piddles [01:38] on my dreamhost account tho, comcast sucks locally [01:38] http://www.fiyawerx.net/Files/boxee-0.9.14.6992-sources.tar.bz2 [01:39] if the actual boxee.tv link didnt work for ya [01:39] antiwire: What are you trying to do with an access database? [01:39] ty [01:39] fire|bird: I'm building a new DB for a small business that wishes to track customers on a membership basis [01:39] and http://www.fiyawerx.net/Files/flashlib-shared-6684.tar.gz is the flashlib with it [01:40] fire|bird: Have you ever interfaced a php/html form with an access db? [01:40] wow wget wont background and release tty [01:40] fire|bird: I'm not at that point yet, just building the db still [01:40] antiwire: No I haven't. I took a class in college specifically on Access, but never worked with php/html with it. [01:41] fire|bird, ditto on the access class, didnt seem to learn anything tho [01:41] I think odbc is the method [01:41] fiyawerx: Well, I learned how to use it well, but it didn't include php/html stuff at all. It was a great class though, but now I'm on Linux and don't even have Microsoft Office installed at all. [01:42] antiwire, http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_db_odbc.asp [01:42] fiyawerx what do i do with the flashlib? [01:42] haha exactly where i am at [01:42] and I use OO.o or Koffice for stuff, but rarely database stuff. [01:42] Quiznos, no idea yet, just grabbed the links heh [01:42] ok; waiting [01:43] i love the system requirements - "Linux (ubuntu 32bit only) 8.04 or higher" [01:43] 760M/s from fiyawerx - impressive [01:43] fiyawerx: haha [01:43] done, 807M/s avg [01:44] actually nvm alisonken1noc [01:44] "Compiling from source is not supported by boxee in any way." - it's like they do some "magic" that makes it work and they aren't sure what it was, so they just run with the one compiled package they got out of it [01:45] wow they sux [01:45] yeah [01:45] wth does that mean the first clause? [01:46] breaking tar open [01:46] damn, no free blocks [01:47] no guarrantees but might try it http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/deb/ [01:47] grab the bunpoo deb if src fails [01:47] looks like someone got it working on archlinux, so im sure its possible [01:47] yea i saw that post [01:48] what does boxee do? [01:48] duno [01:48] aside from not compile easily [01:48] ask redtricycle [01:48] its an app for a media server to run on your tv [01:49] a decent frontend for most streaming -video /audio sites out there [01:49] its a server? [01:49] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.66.210) joined ##slackware. [01:49] hm not really [01:49] k [01:49] ok, in english, what does the program do? [01:49] duno [01:49] don't know. [01:50] lol [01:50] lets you easily watch streaming video and listen to streaming audio on your pc [01:50] with a UI that works really well on home theatre setups [01:50] ok reading ./ docs [01:51] wow lots of deps [01:51] apt-get cmds [01:51] sudo's [01:51] ew [01:51] lol [01:51] heh [01:51] they must really love ubuntu [01:51] no guru structions tho [01:51] nods [01:52] ok let me get this install on the road, bbiab [01:52] fiyawerx (i=HydraIRC@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC" [01:52] redtricycle [01:52] missyjane: 12.2 on the laptop, slamd64 12.2 on the desktop atm. soon to switch to slackware64 [01:54] redtricycle [01:56] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [01:56] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [01:56] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [01:56] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [01:56] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) got netsplit. [01:56] redtricycle [01:56] the ban in ##linux seemed on the money to me [01:57] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) returned to ##slackware. [01:57] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) returned to ##slackware. [01:57] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [01:57] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [01:57] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) returned to ##slackware. [01:59] hey Quiznos [01:59] What's up? [01:59] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) joined ##slackware. [01:59] I dont get a ping unless I check irssi [02:00] but anyway [02:00] I decided against boxee and went with xbmc [02:01] due to the effort it would've taken to compile it [02:01] off to bed, good night all [02:01] night redtricycle [02:01] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:02] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [02:03] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [02:03] damn, he fkn quit and i'm here making a pkg for him? [02:03] omg [02:04] hehh [02:04] well fk me [02:04] lol [02:04] omg [02:04] holy god almighty [02:04] oops [02:04] holy $DEITY alimighty [02:04] lol [02:05] that bastard LOL [02:05] and he fkn changed his mind?! [02:05] im stunned [02:05] well. [02:05] he's a terrible client. [02:06] yeah right, a client that leaves you alone is great [02:06] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:06] you just pump out product and invoices [02:06] it's a good relationship [02:06] Hello, if i want to create a new partition for /usr, when i created it to move all my content from /usr to the new partition do I have to mv only the directory to the partition and this new partition only mounts it as /usr ? [02:06] no no no; chg his mind and quit w/o tellin me [02:06] except one that leaves you alone and tries to 'fix' things themselves [02:06] yea [02:07] that usually ends in a hole drill making a hole in a switch. [02:07] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [02:07] josefig: i would recommend using cp, and having it mount /usr on your next boot. [02:07] holy fk; i upgraded pkgs for that bastard [02:07] lol [02:08] spook, okay thanks [02:08] :) [02:08] I'm running windows XP in a vm so I can run MS Access [02:09] this is awesome [02:09] All of which runs on Slackware [02:09] josefig: then if it all works okay, you can mv the usr on your / partition to something like usr-backup [02:09] antiwire: It's great, isn't it. :P [02:09] MS Access doesn't work with WINE? [02:09] then if its still all working okay after a while, it'd be safe to delete. [02:09] ms access works with WINE [02:10] I hate Ms Access :S [02:10] me and WINE have bad blood [02:10] I'd rather use the VM, honestly. [02:10] the whole office suite works on wine, and has for a few years [02:10] wine randomly breaks and crashes with a lot of the stuff I have setup for it though [02:10] wine works well for me [02:11] except for a few games [02:11] that i have to use real windows for [02:11] on real hardware [02:11] anything dx8 should work fine [02:12] GPS mapping software explodes, GPS file format converter explodes, GTA3 explodes randomly [02:12] dx9 stuff [02:12] so fire|bird having you gotten ff and flash on your laptop? ;) [02:12] I ended up using google earth and gpsbabel from then on out for my GPS [02:12] lf4: haha, just burned a new slax cd with that stuff so yeah, soon. :P [02:12] fire|bird: lol nice [02:13] lf4: I'm on my desktop atm. [02:13] distro[Slackware 13.0.0.0.0] [02:13] in sbopkg; when I rsync; i'd like an option on main menu to ONLY show what has changd since last rsync; a diff of pkgs. [02:14] ie, the newest pkgs added since last rsync. [02:14] Quiznos, send them a request or do it yourself [02:14] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [02:14] i posted in their chan [02:14] they dont listen to me tho. [02:14] who would? [02:14] j/k [02:15] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] quasar[l] (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:15] Nick change: quasar -> Guest2398 [02:16] maybe use their mailing list [02:16] spook, have you resized a partition and then expanded another partition? my home partition is about 50gb and my / partition is about 10gb :P [02:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [02:16] shouldn't it be the other way around? [02:16] Nick change: Guest2398 -> quasar [02:16] how did you setup the partitions? lvm? [02:17] Oh fire|bird lol nice [02:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] Nick change: quasar -> Guest92616 [02:17] Nick change: Guest92616 -> quasar [02:17] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Killed by reynolds.freenode.net (Nick collision) [02:17] josefig: parted is on the install disk, use that :) [02:17] Nick change: dive^ -> dive [02:17] _quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] fire|bird: I'm going to make so much money with the Access DB setup. [02:17] this is awesome [02:17] parted ? [02:18] antiwire: nice, that's always a plus. :) [02:18] fire|bird: I've hardly used Access at all and this thing is cake. [02:18] josefig: program for resizing partitions [02:18] Nick change: _quasar -> quasar [02:18] antiwire: awesome [02:18] lemme check [02:18] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:18] josefig: you need to boot from the install disk, you cant use parted when your partitions are mounted [02:19] ok [02:19] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Connection timed out [02:19] hi [02:19] or for the ungifted use a LiveCD with gparted [02:20] i kind of wish i could kill my windows partition [02:20] superGear: if he was able to use fdisk to setup his partitions when he installed, he should be able to use parted [02:21] i used cfdisk cause i'm dumb [02:21] and lazy [02:21] waddup! [02:21] cfdisk isnt much different [02:21] sup nix_chix0r [02:21] hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [02:21] chillaxin [02:21] nix_chix0r: hows the little tyke? [02:21] you [02:21] spook, it's easier :P [02:22] anyone else running current? [02:22] me [02:22] juice: I am [02:22] crabby but forced to sleep:) [02:22] i am doing the last round of updates to my vbox [02:22] nix_chix0r: rum in the milk? [02:22] fire|bird, goin good [02:22] has the nvidia issue been fixed? [02:22] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-12-247-18.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] yet [02:22] spook, nah, the swing. 4 D batteries=answer to almost every problem [02:22] what nvidia issue? [02:22] juice: what issue is that? [02:22] juice: i havent updated those nor have a nvidia card, but read the changelog ! [02:22] Can anyone think of a reason Doom 3 would run _significantly_ faster in wine than it does using the native linux client? [02:23] cause windows is better! [02:23] j/k [02:23] mainly people were complaining about NVIDIA issues here a few weeks ago [02:23] nix_chix0r: hahaha, swing, is that what you crazy kids call them these days? [02:23] ha [02:23] juice: you mean like the sys tray icons missing. [02:23] s/mainly/many [02:23] no [02:23] sec [02:23] juice, i only saw intel gfx issues last week [02:23] bbiab [02:23] blackorca: dx8 being faster than opengl probally. [02:24] spook, yeah, but doesn't wine convert it all to opengl anyway? [02:24] and I actually thought doom 3 was opengl even in Windows, but I'm not sure about that [02:25] blackorca: good point. [02:25] nix_chix0r: I can think of a few personal items that you probably don't want to even be able to fit D batteries in [02:25] poorly written/ported linux client perhaps [02:25] dildo [02:25] Enemy Territory: Quake Wars also runs slower than it should, and that's another id software title, so I'm starting to think what spook just said [02:25] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-d3d1299ecc9bfad3) joined ##slackware. [02:25] fscking superGear [02:26] no beating around the bush there huh [02:26] antiwire, industrial mixer?;) [02:26] lol [02:26] blackorca: what hardware is it running on? [02:26] spook, athlon II x2, 9800 GTX+ 512MB [02:26] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: "changing servers" [02:26] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [02:26] spook, 2x2GB 1066 DDR3 ram [02:28] thats quite odd [02:28] doom 3 shouldn't be dipping down to 30 fps lol [02:29] Action: superGear dislikes Doom 3 [02:29] if anyone's interested, the latest development version of wine runs half life 2 and doom 3 wonderfully [02:29] yeah doom 3 sucks [02:29] fire|bird, back on Jul 18 02:15:28 [02:29] you were talking about random crashes [02:30] with nvidia in current [02:30] is that fixed [02:30] as was antiwire [02:30] i have no random crashes [02:30] superGear: unfortunately, I know a couple of females that complain 'D' batteries would be too small :) [02:30] juice: yes [02:30] half life 2 barely ran in wine-stable, but the latest development version is amazing [02:30] ok [02:32] alisonken1noc: haha [02:32] alisonken1noc: heh. [02:34] A man called Maglite [02:34] of which I have a 6 'D'-cell version from my security force days in the Navy [02:34] i'm not seeing in meteor showers [02:34] s/in/any [02:35] alisonken1noc: I keep a 4D baton..i mean flashlight in my truck too [02:35] works for that as wlel [02:35] well [02:36] what do i do in sbopkg when i'm done; howto say "go"? [02:36] for what? are you queuing or syncing? [02:36] ive selected. i'm done [02:37] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [02:37] what now? [02:37] which version of sbopkg? [02:37] 27.4 [02:37] ok - and you selected to queue? [02:37] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:38] yes [02:38] main menu -> manage queue [02:38] ok; i got it; ty [02:38] B&I. [02:39] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:39] it goes [02:40] spook, i'm going to be alone all by myself this weekend [02:41] nix_chix0r: so you can put those 4 Ds to use [02:41] hohoho [02:41] they have little to no juice left [02:42] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [02:42] Action: Motoko-chan is reminded of the Coupling "remotes" episode [02:44] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] damn no star trek at all tonight [02:45] hm, so far so good, downloading the ati driver now [02:45] fiyawerx redtrike changed his mind and quit [02:45] dunno why but i was thinking 12.2 had kde 4 [02:45] fiyawerx: nope, it's KDE 3.5.10 :) [02:45] works for me :) [02:46] so far anyway, we'll see what happens after fglrx [02:46] and my wireleess card is giving me some error when it starts up, but it worked so hey [02:47] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:47] nix_chix0r: well, with a little imagination, battery juice is an option :) [02:47] for females it's something like 90% mental [02:47] tell me about it - my wife reminds me about that all of the time [02:48] and all without words, to boot [02:48] gn [02:48] gn [02:48] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] ok, now im scared, that worked almost too easy [02:49] fiyawerx: be afraid, be very afraid. :P [02:50] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Client Quit [02:50] RaNdY (i=randy@use.the.force.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:50] RaNdY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: I hate badly written bots [02:52] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:52] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:53] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Nick change: quasar -> sealcubclubbingc [02:55] er [02:55] Nick change: sealcubclubbingc -> quasar [02:55] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:55] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:55] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [02:56] noisesinmyhead (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:57] Nick change: Guest11324 -> init[1] [02:57] Incidentally, for all who helped me - Quiznos and Urchlay mostly - I managed to get everything to where it needed to be after a kernel reconfigure and recompile. [02:58] the one from that site helped me out a ton, and I used a modified version of its config to get the modules i needed, etc etc. [02:59] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] night all be well note to nix_chix0r "buy batteries " :) [03:01] night Rat409 [03:01] wb nix_chix0r [03:01] cya [03:01] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:03] Good night boys and girls and fire|bird [03:03] night superGear [03:03] morning folks [03:03] hey fire|bird :) [03:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] howdy BP{k} [03:03] BP{k}: How goes? [03:04] fire|bird: uhm .. let me get back to you on that one, when both of my eyes are open and I had more than 4 hours of lseep [03:04] sleep* [03:04] i did that last night too [03:04] went to bed at 4am [03:04] not cool [03:04] BP{k}: haha, alright. [03:04] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [03:04] antiwire: yeah, [03:05] I couldn't sleep so i resorted to taking some tylenol [03:05] downside of today .. dealing with airport and security and shit .. plus side: holiday! [03:05] I go to sleep about 03:00 and get about 7-7.5 hours of sleep each night. [03:05] get drunk at 40kft [03:05] that's fair [03:05] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-12-247-18.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:05] BP{k}: \o/, vacation begins. :) [03:05] antiwire: I doubt I manage that. flight isn't that long ;) [03:05] haha [03:06] you have time man gogogo [03:08] "In headline news today, man gets drunk and barely makes it onto the plane before passing out" :D [03:09] hehehe [03:09] getting drunk on the plane is always my first step. on a 3hr flight i'll have my first before we level off [03:10] antiwire: you're doing it wrong ;) you should start in the bar after checking in ;) [03:10] hahah [03:11] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] i like to go through seccheck sober so i can talk shit and not get arrested for drunk in public [03:12] what is the trick to get alsamixer to remeber its settiings ? this 12.2 box here forces me to unmute and raise volume every time I boot [03:12] rachael: alsactl store 0 [03:13] Thanks :) [03:13] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [03:13] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] alright, system up and running, im happy, can go to bed now [03:14] thanks for the info earlier guys [03:15] fiyawerx: glad it's working. Good night, take care. [03:17] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Action: dive yawns :(____________))) [03:18] whoa, double chin? [03:18] wait, triple chin [03:18] triple gin? yes please [03:19] haha [03:19] or really big lips [03:19] I must get an Access book now [03:19] antiwire: impressed by what you can do? [03:20] with access [03:20] This crap could be fantastically lucrative [03:20] I use Access once for about 30 mins [03:20] antiwire: and bring in some money. :P [03:20] Seems many people still use it in soho [03:23] well that guy with the usb headset never came back [03:23] I wonder what delights init 1 had for him [03:23] it probably caught fire and burned him [03:23] fried his hair [03:24] do not use init 1 while head connected via usb port? [03:24] or if he was bald, left a hole. :/ [03:25] I wonder if that works though - doing init 1 and then back to init 3/4 to recycle modules? [03:25] access sucks soooo much [03:25] save rebooting [03:25] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:25] how can I calculate some ftp size dir? [03:26] all files/subdir thre [03:27] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:28] powtrix: what? du -hs dir [03:29] using ftp client? [03:31] oh no. [03:31] ncftp does no [03:31] ermm [03:31] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:35] http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0810091bottles1a.jpg <--This is a mug shot photo. :P [03:36] looks almost fake though, the writing on the shirt. [03:36] fire|bird: Is that you? [03:36] lf4: hahaha, no [03:37] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [03:37] It almost seems like the text was placed there, too much pixelization around it. :/ [03:37] fire|bird: lol yeah it is don't deny ;) [03:38] lf4: Nope, that isn't me, I assure you. [03:38] maybe it's mrselfpwn. :P [03:38] fire|bird: it was placed... if you look its a clear block of pixelilation. [03:38] mr self pwn or mrs elf pwn? [03:38] lol quasar [03:38] mr, as in mr [03:39] lf4: yeah, but still funny. :P [03:39] that pixilisation, as you said, is just to perfectly square around the text. [03:39] pixelisation [03:40] argh, pixelization. :P [03:42] I'm seeing some pixelation around the shoulders as well, so ? [03:43] perhaps _he_ was placed there too? [03:43] alisonken1noc: yeah, but that is more normal pixelization that occurs in a crappy photo, the pixelization around the text is to perfect. [03:43] the text seems to be to flat as well, like his shirt is cardboard. [03:43] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/12/judge-orders-microsoft-to-stop-selling-word [03:44] you can call me Pat lf4 [03:44] lf4: yeah, indeed. [03:45] y0 mrselfpwn [03:45] y0 [03:45] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [03:47] mrselfpwn: huh? [03:49] huh? [03:50] wth is going on here? :P [03:50] how's it going fire|bird? [03:50] hahaha http://www.flickr.com/photos/justwatchthesky/85347199/sizes/o/ [03:50] mrselfpwn: going excellent, thanks, you? [03:50] not bad, not bad [03:51] mrselfpwn: Not much we are just talking :) I said huh? because: 01:44 < mrselfpwn> you can call me Pat lf4 [03:51] Never seen STL? [03:51] *SNL [03:53] sorry I don't watch TV [03:53] do you own a tv? [03:53] Pat is an ambiguous name. [03:53] fire|bird: lol personally or family? [03:53] haha, either [03:54] on Saturday Night Live it was a skit which never gave the true sex of the character "Pat". [03:54] fire|bird: My brother uses our 56" for his gaming and I mounted a 32" LCD for my sister and mother in the sitting room. Then they each have one in their room. lol My room has 0 TV's. [03:55] mrselfpwn: Ahh ok [03:55] Well, I gotta get going, 02:54. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [03:55] Orion (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] night fire|bird [03:55] lf4: ok :) [03:55] later fire|bird [03:55] howdy guys [03:55] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] night lf4 [03:55] later mrselfpwn [03:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [03:57] hello misspwn [03:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:58] Have you guys seen this error and what it would mean? 9: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution [03:58] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-52-112.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] mrselfpwn: I remember something about Pat the sexless being :) [03:59] supposed to be modeled after a chubby nerd [03:59] yes alisonken1noc lol [03:59] i know it's a little dated though did you ever get your raid array to boot with lilo properly? [04:00] you guys talking about that movie? [04:00] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] not yet - but haven't been able to work with it much. I think it's because default slackware lilo isn't compiled with raid support [04:00] ahh [04:00] Orion: what movie? [04:00] alisonken1noc: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110169/ [04:00] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:00] same with default slackware compile of grub - it wouldn't work either [04:00] "It's Pat" [04:01] Chubby nerd of unknown sex [04:01] no - just talking about SNL - but I forgot they made a movie about it :) [04:01] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [04:02] lilo has raid support [04:02] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-192327.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:03] not according to the lilo that I installed from slack64 13RC1 [04:03] by default [04:03] greetings [04:03] since at least 12.1 [04:03] the raid option was not recognized [04:03] one tic [04:04] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] its not using the raid option, but the root = /dev/md0 [04:04] ok - now you have me thinking. the machine may have said it was raid, but lilo did not detect a raid device. have to go back and check what the error was [04:07] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [04:09] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89937.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:09] morning [04:09] yep - it's morning [04:10] indeed [04:10] only 4-1/2 more hours till daylight to prove it :0 [04:10] Morning slackytude :) [04:10] well; saw two streaks in sky; mostly cloudy but the were long in sw florida [04:10] y0 lf4 [04:10] hows it going [04:10] Action: slackytude checks noobfarm [04:11] welcome slackytude [04:11] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:11] y0 mrselfpwn [04:11] Action: alisonken1noc sees no pending noobfarm quotes so slackytude is in the clear [04:11] Action: slackytude away customer [04:13] slackytude: It's going alright just having an issue with this VMware server at work. :P [04:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:13] alisonken1noc: Haha [04:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:14] svopkg is not finding wget'd pkgs [04:14] rsync [04:14] lf4: doesnt sound too bad [04:14] did [04:15] alisonken1noc: but my submission from yesterday is now online :D [04:15] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1647 [04:16] slackytude: It is... I know the system can support 64bit guest os's but for some stupid reason it wont. [04:16] uh, ugly [04:16] ah - saw that yesterday [04:16] TwinReverb (n=robert@211.180.33.60) joined ##slackware. [04:17] lol what is timecube? 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[04:48] thats a feed line if ever i saw one [04:49] missyjane: Buy a japanese keyboard! [04:49] lol [04:49] :( [04:50] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. [04:50] CTCP : from missyjane (missyjane!n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) to ##slackware [04:50] B [04:50] ok - talking in greek again? [04:51] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [04:51] D [04:51] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:51] nope japanese [04:51] i got it to work [04:51] ah [04:51] missyjane: how? [04:51] i know japanese, trying to talk to someone via that [04:51] dusty >:( i wont tell you [04:51] heh [04:51] i know chinese too and several other languages [04:51] missyjane: did you get my link earlier? [04:51] I Know perl? [04:51] arigato ;) [04:51] I know python :) [04:51] alisonken1noc, yes, you dont disappoint :D you look hot [04:52] not bad for an old geezer if I do say so myself [04:52] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-192327.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [04:52] hahah its so true :x [04:53] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:56] ugh i hate how i have to learn katakana soon [04:56] Action: missyjane roars [05:02] Action: quasar belches [05:03] Action: missyjane MISSYJANE PUNCHES quasar [05:03] Action: quasar cries [05:03] Action: alisonken1noc yawns [05:04] oh - a twitter moment :) [05:04] you twitter? D: [05:04] nope [05:06] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: "Quitting" [05:07] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [05:07] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [05:07] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [05:07] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. 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[05:27] both commands need to be in the foreground [05:28] Itried a couple of combinations but nothing seems to work [05:30] i twitter. [05:30] "cmatrix & ; vlock" [05:31] or rather, i tweet [05:31] alisonken1noc: syntax error [05:32] unexpected ; [05:32] "$(cmatrix &) ; vlock" [05:33] hi all [05:33] alisonken1noc: cmatrix needs to run in the foreground not background [05:34] try it with vlock first in the background, then running cmatrix [05:34] (swap vlock and cmatrix) [05:35] heaumer_ (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [05:35] vlock also should be in the foreground [05:35] otherwise it wont run as well [05:35] then your going to have problems - it's hard to have multiple programs running in foreground on a console [05:36] ls [05:36] yeah I know.. :) [05:36] woops [05:36] i am just seeing checking if there is any way [05:36] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [05:36] unless cmatrix has a 'lock console while running' option (similar to screensavers) [05:36] spook: "too many files to show" [05:36] I think I will use my first choice [05:37] i dont think you can run several applications in the foreground on a single terminal [05:37] at least not in bash that I know of [05:37] unless there's some way of hacking the terminal [05:38] Mikey^: what about calling vlock when cmatrix terminates? (I've never used either so I' [05:38] m not sure if that's possible) [05:38] "cmatrix && vlock" [05:38] that is my first chois [05:38] but [05:39] you can login to other virtual consoles while cmatrix runs [05:39] are you in gui or console mode? [05:40] Mikey^: but then you are opening another terminal [05:40] console mode [05:40] what about screen [05:40] hack cmatrix to require user password to close :) [05:41] Hey, got it [05:41] I got it working :) [05:41] good [05:41] Raid 10 with 4 drives can have a failure of up to 50% as long as its not one full mirror? [05:41] vlock reads a .vlockrc file on startup [05:42] Im in love.... [05:42] slackytude: mirrors don't count [05:42] we got a new coffee machine today [05:42] so I just added cmatrix in .vlockrc and when I run vlock -a it automatically starts cmatrix and when I quit cmatrix vlock asks me for the password [05:42] it has blue led's that shine into the cup! [05:42] good fix, then [05:42] slackytude in love ? [05:42] but again its the same as cmatrix && vlock [05:42] :( [05:42] mohaa, we got a new coffee machine today [05:42] with blue led's [05:43] others terminals are open, [05:43] speaking of coffee ... time to fill up [05:43] slackytude, and ? [05:43] looks like a spaceship. and makes coffee! [05:43] Heh [05:43] its great [05:43] Mikey^: do you need multiple terminals? [05:43] sorry [05:43] I see no great in a coffee machine with leds on it :/ [05:44] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: "Changing server" [05:44] alisonken1noc: sometimes [05:44] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.124) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:44] I use screen mainly [05:44] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-52-112.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [05:45] I can disable the remaining consoles.. but anyway I will leave it at this [05:45] no one is going to use my laptop anway :) [05:45] thanks alisonken1noc [05:45] heaumer_ (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: "leaving" [05:45] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [05:45] heaumer_ (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [05:46] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [05:46] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [05:47] was just trying this for the fun of it [05:48] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] Mikey^ (n=vignesh@122.164.235.235) left irc: "leaving" [05:49] Nick change: heaumer_ -> heaumer [05:51] np [05:59] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:05] harold (n=hashi@d122-104-87-206.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[06:27] France surrendered. [06:27] Don't tell me Abba returned? [06:28] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [06:29] o.o [06:31] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:31] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [06:31] randy: ban evasion much? [06:32] RaNdY: ping [06:32] am not evading any bans.. as far as I know..? [06:33] ah, that must've been a different RaNdY 4 hours ago [06:33] and dont msg me, thanks [06:33] i hate mcafee so hard. its as hard to get rid of as AOL [06:34] to uninstall the framework, you have to install virusscan [06:34] wty [06:34] *wtf [06:38] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:38] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.124) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [06:47] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:41] gaz- (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [07:42] hi i have just installed slackware 12.2 on my laptop got everything working but i would like to upgrade firefox to version 3.5. Could someone please advise the best way to do this. A few articles i have read suggest people have broke firefox doing this? [07:44] gaz-: you can uninstall firefox, fetch the source of the new version, compile and install (with paco http://paco.sourceforge.net/) for instance [07:44] Go to help and then check for updates [07:45] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [07:45] cool ill have a look into that, many thanks gotta get used to the slack way of doing things :D all fun tho [07:45] huhu, that's not really the slack way :) [07:46] a real slack-user would have make a .tgz instead of using paco [07:46] i was reading about src2pkg is that advised [07:47] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:48] pff.. real slackers make .txzs :D [07:48] gaz-: slackbuild [07:48] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:48] .txz's <--- fixed for you [07:48] ; [07:48] when did pluaral take possession?! [07:49] Action: init[1] o/ waves to slackers [07:49] gaz-: pats slackbuild for 3.5.2 in -current shows you the whole process step by step.. and then automates it for you [07:50] .txzs makes it sound like the 's' is part of the name [07:50] Action: lf4 waves to InspectorCluseau [07:50] lf4: you fail :P [07:50] :. [07:50] Action: lf4 waves to init[1] man I have to type ini for your name now [07:50] quasar: that apostrophe is fine [07:50] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:50] quasar: most apostrophe use is catastrophic.. but that one instance is fine [07:50] lf4:nvm,:) [07:51] Action: lf4 kicks InspectorCluseau [07:51] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-52-112.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Zordrak, thanks ill take a look i need to do some reading on how to keep slack uptodate [07:52] Asmadeus_ (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:52] in general [07:52] gaz-: slackpkg is all you need [07:52] gaz-: but 12.2 doesnt have ff3.5.. it stops at latest 3.0 [07:52] hence the need to beuli your own or upgrade to 13-rc2 [07:52] *build [07:53] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] right okies thanks for the advice guys [07:53] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-175-85-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Zordrak, but to say I was wrong because I didn't have an apostraphe is, infact, wrong :p [07:55] i didn't. [07:56] but he did.. which is why I said what I did.. though it's "accepted" use doesn't mean it is proper use of an apostraphe [07:56] :/ [07:57] quasar: ok - then what is a .txzs file? [07:58] in the context of which you used it, I'm not sure what "a" .txzs file is [07:59] using your context - "pff.. real slackers make .txzs" [08:00] Stop. [08:00] :) [08:00] I'm bored and have several hours to go [08:00] which is more than one .txz file [08:01] according to your statement, the .txzs is the extention, not a plural [08:02] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:03] upyr[emacs] (n=user@194.9.231.203) joined ##slackware. [08:04] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.80.211) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:04] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-188-245-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:08] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:09] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] if a package i wish to install is not on an official mirror is the preferred method to just compile from source? I appreciate there may be unofficial repositories but are they recommended? [08:20] gaz-, check slackbuilds.org [08:20] there's even a pkgtool (sbopkg) that helps with browsing slackbuilds [08:21] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:21] if they have the SBo that you're looking for, it'll build the package for you (might have to tweak it for your system or the version you download) [08:21] gaz-: you nede to spend a little time reading the info on the URLs in the topic [08:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. 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[09:34] mornin [09:35] 'lo [09:35] hi [09:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:35] mornin' [09:35] gaz- (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:35] mornin [09:36] agentc0re: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1647http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1647 [09:36] just made everything work [09:36] slackytude++ [09:36] :D [09:36] heh, saw that yesterday. [09:36] Very awesome. [09:36] On top of giving people the link now, i can then send that one. [09:37] heh [09:37] for whatever reason, timecube seems to have chased away the trolls... Or at least kept them busy for 10 minutes. [09:37] but it looks like the Im a total noob comment got dropped [09:37] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:37] you're educated stupid you dont even know how to compute a timecube [09:38] the earth has 4 sides [09:38] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] slackytude: Ya, too bad too. I just though that admitting noobness belonged on a site called, noobfarm /shrug ;) [09:39] etc etc [09:39] sto those lies!! that's the IRC Hall Of Fame!! [09:39] wintery: eh? [09:39] exactly [09:39] whats a good temperature monitor? [09:40] Action: agentc0re hands wintery his pills [09:40] what pills lolol [09:40] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [09:40] exactly [09:40] anyone have a good suggestion for a temp montiro? [09:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) left irc: [09:41] conky + lm_sensors? [09:41] lm_sensors + gkrellm [09:41] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [09:41] fiyawerx: http://www.tempgun.com/main.html [09:42] :D [09:42] agentc0re, thanks i think the other two covered it :) [09:42] lol [09:43] use the good ol mercury thermometer [09:43] lm_sensors as a base, then whatever for something that shows in X [09:44] even kde with some widgets [09:44] fiyawerx: gkrellm monitors lots of stuff [09:44] including cpu temperature [09:44] all sorts of stuff [09:45] woot! i may get my evga MB replaced by warranty. [09:45] evga make some decent stuff [09:46] gkrellm also monitors ram usage including all the ram that itself (the bloated crap it is) uses up [09:47] mancha: what do you think gkrellm runs on? fairy dust? [09:47] i don't understand that comment. [09:48] of course it uses ram. [09:48] thats why we have such bloat these days, people nowadays don't even understand the concept of bloat... [09:49] c.f. spook [09:49] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [09:49] oh i understand bloat. [09:51] In the installer, it asked me if I wanted to check out screen fonts. I said no. Now, I want to use one - where do I set this? (i know how to set it manually with setfont) [09:51] mancha: openpixie.sf.net netbootable openmosix diskless node smaller than a floppy disk :) [09:51] draeath: you dont want to try out a custom screen font. [09:51] yes, i do. I know what font I want. [09:52] I'm using it right now, and its much more readable at this resolution (vga=873 ... 1680x1050) [09:52] otherwise, setconsolefont is the script that is run at setup [09:52] Edit that script directly, or does it read a config file? [09:52] pkgtool -> setup scripts, you can see all the scripts from the installer and run them [09:53] you run the script. [09:53] ah ok [09:53] good luck [09:54] ty, that did the trick [09:54] Now, why do you say good luck? [09:54] I [09:54] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:54] I've been using this for a little while now, just not with a different font [09:54] no crashing, no X problems, etc [09:54] hey guys [09:54] Buggaboo: hi. [09:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-5b7ae74dc5ef2132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] draeath: been there done that. you cant be convinced so good luck :) [09:55] spook: what is the problem! [09:55] draeath: consider it a surprise. [09:55] ... [09:55] anyone else feel like being helpful? [09:56] do you actually have a good reason, or are you just being silly? [09:56] A off-topic question here, is it possible to use one domain name for an e-mail service on a different physical server and http for another different server. [09:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [09:56] excuse me, who just mentioned openpixie(spell?)? [09:56] Buggaboo: yes. MX records are seperate to the A records [09:57] sure, anything between the inet and these two servers? [09:57] luceroz: me [09:57] spook: I thought openmosix was dead? [09:57] spook: seriously, please tell me what you mean [09:57] luceroz: it uses the last stable version, but linuxpmi lives on. [09:57] spook, mancha, ah cool, thanks. [09:57] luceroz: kernel version 2.4.26 [09:58] I'm moving the company e-mail http server to another virtual private server. [09:58] ehm, http server. [09:58] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-93-22.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] not both. [09:58] spook: very cool, thanks [09:58] there is nothing that forces them to be the same machine [09:58] luceroz: np, i help with linuxpmi a bit. [09:59] in fact www.domain.name and ww1.domain.name needn't be the same machine [09:59] mail is sent to the MX record. [10:00] Action: nooper points to the MX record [10:00] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:00] okay. [10:00] yes, and not even A records need point to the same thing for different hosts on a domain [10:01] mancha: thank you for DNS 101 [10:01] and thank you too [10:01] cyb3r3li0g (n=eguzman@fwabq.cvimellesgriot.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] i had forgotten about MX hah [10:02] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:02] i'll keep in mind that whenever i have MX pointer issues i need to ask you [10:02] spook: one more thing, this: http://gnuveau.net/mailman/listinfo/linuxpmi-dev seems to go nowhere. got a link to the linuxpmi list? [10:03] luceroz: linuxpmi.org [10:03] I mucked around with bind9 a while ago, I should've known :P [10:03] spook: right, I got that far, but the link to the mailing list gets me to gnuveau [10:04] luceroz: juri needs to update the link [10:04] join #linuxpmi [10:04] whats the trick to getting alt-f2 to open the 'run' box in kde? [10:04] fiyawerx: hotkeys [10:05] spook: gotcha, i will join later (gotta get back to work anyway) [10:05] i need install my network conection in my pc for to conect internet. someone help me? [10:05] spook: ah always assumed it was something default, hmm, whats the program that it runs? [10:06] fiyawerx: kde 3.5? [10:06] phzin you need to e a little more precise: ppp, ethernet, wireless? etc etc. [10:06] phzin: sure, what have you done so far? [10:07] spook: oh.. where do you set them then? tried looking in the control center for hotkeys [10:07] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [10:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:08] fiyawerx: what kde version? [10:08] 3.5 [10:08] just installed from 12.2 dvd and slackpkg upgraded [10:08] fiyawerx: try right clicking the menu [10:09] i get move, remove, menu editor and panel menu [10:10] try them all, explore [10:11] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [10:11] mancha i intalled yesterday the slack, my internet is ethernet [10:12] oh, its called keyboard shortcuts, not hotkeys, and its not on the right click menu, its in the control center where i was before [10:12] fiyawerx: ah, things changed in kde4. i didnt use kde3.5 much [10:13] ah the default is winkey - r, heh [10:13] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-5-91.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] mancha I write in my Konsole: netconfig / select DHCP. I try and I can't to conect on internet. [10:14] triplc (n=dizi@118.71.98.99) joined ##slackware. [10:14] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) joined ##slackware. [10:15] phzin: okay well thats a start. describe your network. [10:15] Hi all. How to install Slackware 64 bit (-current)? I am not using Slackware right now, but I want to give a try. [10:15] adsl ethernet cable [10:15] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [10:15] spook [10:15] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [10:16] phzin: got a router? [10:16] triplc: there are unofficial isos, or you can rsync the package tree, use a usb installer/ pxe boot, and install over the network, or from a usb harddrive [10:16] triplc: imho easiest way is to download iso (unoficial)... [10:16] slackytude yes [10:16] so you have an ethernet cable to a dsl modem? is it a router modem or just a modem? [10:16] hello [10:16] phzin: and it runs a dhcp server? [10:17] just a modem mancha [10:17] slackytude no [10:17] do you also have a router? [10:17] then you need ppope [10:17] rp-pppoe [10:17] well, usually pppoe, some modems use pptp or other encapsulation [10:17] pppoe-setup [10:17] and pppoe-start [10:17] triplc: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [10:17] er some adsl providers i imean [10:18] slackytude it's easy? [10:18] yesterdays builds [10:18] phzin: pretty [10:18] The-spiki: Thanks, I'll download and see. :-) [10:18] does your provider use pppoe? [10:18] my younger sister did it herself. it's not hard :) [10:19] my homefriend tell me to use pppoe-setup too. [10:19] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@213.188.82.134) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Wow. [10:19] ##slackware... [10:19] Long time no /join [10:20] stevek (n=fidesrat@5e037441.bb.sky.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:20] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e037441.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [10:20] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e037441.bb.sky.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:21] Gargantua: lawl at your ISP's ripe typo :) [10:21] What can I say, it's in Iraq. [10:22] slackytude now, i am in my work using OS WIN, tonight i will try the comand pppoe-setup in my slack if I can not I come back here. [10:22] Gargantua: it says Jordan btw :) Itisaluna netowrk with Horizon. i mean netowrk. wtf :) [10:23] lol [10:23] Yeah man, no one can spell anything around here. [10:23] I should've taken a picture of the welcom sign that said "Weelcome to Iraq" [10:23] welcome* [10:23] the happiest sign is the one that says "Leaving Iraq" [10:23] How ironic. [10:24] lol [10:24] morn [10:24] Def. [10:24] Leeving Iraq* [10:24] mancha thank you for your attention [10:24] slackytude thank you too. [10:24] :) [10:24] welcome* <- that was for the first misspell [10:25] phzin, no problem, listen to the advice install rp-pppoe as it seems this is what your provider uses (pppoe) [10:25] mancha ok. [10:25] rp-pppoe is installed by default. [10:26] phzin, this should work unless your provider uses another protocol, in which case comeback and we can figure it out [10:26] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:27] ok, thank you. [10:28] My stupid cousin forgot a $1200 laptop in a computer bag. [10:28] While it's on, I mean. [10:29] hd shot? [10:29] It doesn't help that the temperature is over very fucking hot, Celsius. [10:29] Gargantua: nice [10:30] 310K ? [10:30] mancha, battery fucked. [10:30] Gargantua: that sucks. [10:31] Gargantua: but the laptop still works? [10:31] good hd then or was it ssd? [10:31] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] thumbs, depends on how you define "works" [10:31] Gargantua: does it boot? [10:31] cpu probally melted. [10:31] He bought a new battery, and when it's fully charged, it says "Low battery" [10:31] lol. [10:32] For like 6 hours. [10:32] lol [10:32] changing circuits messed up [10:32] Gargantua: ah, replace the mobo. [10:34] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:34] thumbs, you have no idea how many counterfiet products there are here. [10:34] I saw a circut board yesterday for $3, the genuiune one is around $180. [10:35] Gargantua: bah [10:35] does the $3 one work? [10:35] hi everybody ! [10:35] who was looking at the slowness of grep when using UTF8 the other day? [10:35] dive: you were [10:35] spook, this poor carpenter installed one... [10:35] and who else? [10:35] i have X running onto a server and desktop computer, but i would like to stop X , how can i do without rebooting please ? [10:35] i'm using ssh [10:36] i'm not in front of the computer, just connected via ssh [10:36] paissad-hp: init 3 as root [10:36] Electrical boards are in very high demand here, given that there is very little "national" electricity. [10:36] The-spiki, init 3 would reboot and stop services , am i wrong Thom1, [10:36] spook, I just tried LC_ALL=en.US slackpkg upgrade-all and it literally brought up the speed of checking for upgrades to a few seconds. [10:36] paissad-hp: no. [10:36] spook, this poor carpenter installed one... burned up his entire shop. [10:36] paissad-hp: it will not reboot, or restart deamons. [10:36] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] thumbs, ok thanks ! [10:37] paissad-hp: you will maintain your ssh session. [10:37] kill X [10:37] ok , thanks [10:37] Gargantua: lol. [10:38] There are counterfeit razorblades... pensils. [10:38] Fucking everything [10:38] paissad_ (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:38] You'll probably find a counterfeit version of your mother if you look hard enough. [10:39] countergeit razorblades? waaaaat? [10:39] how can you have a conterfeit pencil? [10:39] Fucking everything man. [10:39] i always gpg --verify my schick blades [10:39] It gets fucking annoying. [10:39] Why wouldn't my computer find a boot record from a freshly burned (x2) slackware 11 cd? [10:39] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] bad DL? [10:39] spook, you take a crappy pencil and print a brandname on it. [10:39] Chakravanti: md5 the isos [10:40] yes [10:40] Gargantua: ah okay. but its still a pencil [10:40] md5 is good [10:40] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] spook, oh yeah... [10:40] A crappy pencil. [10:41] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] triplc (n=dizi@118.71.98.99) left irc: "leaving" [10:41] oh, it sometimes writes in grey instead of black? [10:42] it causes hand cancer. [10:42] that's what. [10:43] will you go gay now? [10:45] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.152.0) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Edgecrusher (n=x@187.21.128.137) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Edgecrusher (n=x@187.21.128.137) left ##slackware. [10:46] Nick change: Guest76050 -> Sun [10:46] Nick change: Sun -> SuN [10:46] hehehe [10:48] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:48] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:50] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [10:50] ami crazy or is this really wierd? [10:51] if the drive boots other CDs then your burn is bad, easy diagnosis [10:54] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] mancha read your private pls. [10:55] ok ty [10:56] bewbies. [10:56] blue. [10:56] where is private? [10:57] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:57] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [11:01] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:02] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Hello! [11:04] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [11:04] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:04] good evening :-) [11:05] macavity: Hello! [11:06] 'lo [11:07] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [11:08] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:08] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.34) joined ##slackware. [11:09] ah, nice to see that our testing efforts has hit -current :-) [11:09] Action: macavity updates [11:12] Are there any slackware mugs? [11:13] I wonder how much m^3 it can contain. [11:15] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:16] that depends on the spacetime continum warp factor from gravitational pull of the substance you pour into it ;-) [11:17] What if the substance is your mother? [11:17] BURN [11:17] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.210) joined ##slackware. [11:18] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [11:19] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:19] hi [11:19] hi, i run a mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data; chown postgres /usr/local/pgsql/data; su postgres; cd /usr/local/pgsql/bin; ./initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data and then I get stupid initdb line 595 postgresql.conf permission denied :( can someon ehelp [11:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] james__, use the "-R" to recursively change the permissions of a file. [11:21] ./initdb -R -D ? [11:21] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:21] james__, and you might want to check if there's a special group for posgresql [11:21] james__, no, chown _R [11:21] -R [11:21] no, chown -R [11:21] james__, chmod g+rw [11:21] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] james__, chmod -R g+rw [11:23] ehm, even [11:23] how do i check if there is a group [11:23] macavity: i have my eeepc with current on it. [11:23] something must be done about grep, methinks [11:23] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [11:23] spook: iverything working as expected? [11:23] *eerything [11:23] *everything [11:23] james__, grep pos /etc/group [11:23] Action: macavity epicfails [11:24] macavity: yeah bit laggy sometimes [11:24] i have adduser group [11:24] already [11:24] spook: have you specified UXA manually in xorg.conf? [11:24] adduser postgresql [11:24] james__, I'm guessing that somewhere in postgres's conf files somewhere you can set the group. [11:24] macavity: -current has 2.8.0, which only supports uxa [11:24] the problem is i cant do the initdb [11:24] thrice`: oh right, nice :-) [11:24] macavity: no, how do i [11:24] so i cant install postgre properly [11:25] spook: never mind.. you are running UXA now [11:25] macavity: huh? [11:25] james__, check if the data path is 770 I think. [11:25] it is [11:25] i havent updated to rc2 yet [11:25] i did chown /usr/local/pgsql/data [11:26] james__, 'tree /usr/.../data' [11:26] james__, are those also chowned? [11:26] in postgresql i run ./configure gmake gmake install [11:26] then i mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data [11:26] chown postgresql /usr/local/pgsql/data [11:27] james__, you should grap a slackbuild from SBo... [11:27] and then i su postgres and /usr/local/pgsql/bin then ./initdb /usr/local/pgsql/data [11:27] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] I've upgraded the intel driver, as described at http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ (could not find a slackware package and didn't seem to know any other way to get higher resolution for my widescreen minotor...), and have Driver "intel" for my Intel 82915G/GV/910GL video card, but am still unable to get 1440x940 resolution. Any clues as to how to do this? [11:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:27] ok.. lest see this beast in action.. [11:27] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:27] james__, I'm not interested in the details, I'm checking whether you chowned recursively. [11:27] nsp: which resolution are you getting? [11:28] james__, or whether you have the permissions. [11:28] 1024x768 [11:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] same as b4 [11:28] james__, assumptions are the source of all f*ckups. [11:28] can i chown postgresql everything in /usr/local/pgsql [11:28] This is a fresh 12.2 install btw.... [11:28] chown -R pos... target [11:29] should I try upgrading to current? or...? [11:29] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:29] ok.. everything looks good :-) [11:29] Buggaboo: i did that [11:29] I'm thinking I only need to edit xorg.conf, but shouldn't my monitor be detected and have resolution set for it automatically? [11:30] ./initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data say fixing permissions on existing directory /usr/local/pgsql/data chmod chanign permissions of /usr/local/pgsql/data operation not permitted [11:30] My 12.1 box with nv driver does... [11:30] nsp: what graphics hardware? [11:30] intel [11:30] nsp: -current? [11:30] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [11:31] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:31] 12.2 [11:31] 82915G/GV/910GL [11:31] ah, yes, then you need to edit xorg.conf and add the resolutions you want [11:31] you may also need to tweak the sync options in the monitor section [11:32] macavity: Can you coach me on that, or point me to a howto? [11:32] you look up the techincal specs on your monitor [11:33] then you alter HorizSync and VertRefresh in the section called Monitor [11:33] nsp, you'll have to edit xorg.conf using the nVidia drivers [11:33] just read the comments in xorg.conf [11:33] i'd post relevant sections of mine as an example, but i'd get booted for sure [11:33] hoobop: pastebin.ca [11:33] or PM [11:33] hang on [11:34] nsp: have you run some kind of configuration tool, or are you still on "vanilla" xorg.conf? [11:34] macavity: I have not run a configuration tool. [11:35] nsp: then just read the configuration file :-) [11:35] I suppose I'm still on "vanilla" xorg.conf [11:35] macavity: You mean, just read and edit the configuration file? [11:35] nsp, i have xorg for 1, 2, and 3-monitor setups; can i post information to you in a PM? [11:35] hoobop: good, yes do. [11:36] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD89937.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:36] nsp: you need to change 3 things: the graphics driver (set it to "intel" instead of "vesa"), the sync/refresh (monitor dependant) and the resolution (self explainatroy per the file) [11:36] " X -configure" will give you a pretty well working xorg.conf [11:36] nsp: yes [11:36] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:36] thrice`: it hosed the monitor capablilities badly on the GFs machine on 12.2 [11:37] macavity: thrice` Tnx will try suggestions... [11:37] nsp: /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa is a backup of the original file [11:37] nsp: so you can always get back if you mess something up bigtime :-) [11:37] anyhow.. time to get some chow [11:37] later gang [11:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) joined ##slackware. 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[11:44] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.210) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:45] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:46] *tap* *tap* [11:46] is this thing on? [11:46] hi [11:46] just passing thru [11:46] back&forth [11:47] too many things are reinvented [11:47] all these damn wheels [11:47] back and forth to the sub shoppe [11:47] some spining [11:47] some bouncing [11:47] some stuck [11:48] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] if nobody ever reinvented the wheel, we wouldn't have tractor tires and racing slicks [11:49] and that's bad because? [11:49] we have those. [11:49] do yo know where those forms came from? [11:49] ah, thought you were complaining about wheel-reinventing [11:49] i am [11:50] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.13.246.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:50] ppl would rather make a new wheel instead of using what's already been done [11:50] done/exists [11:50] yeah, lot of reasons for that. Some reasons that are good, some that suck [11:50] for the "glamour" of it. [11:51] you any good with sbopkg? [11:51] not used it, so I suppose not [11:51] k [11:51] (it's a shell script, ain't it?) [11:51] yea [11:51] it's ok [11:52] it's not a panacea tho [11:52] nah [11:52] nor the bee's knees [11:52] too many builds have special instructions [11:52] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [11:52] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:52] yea but that's the porpose of the build .sh [11:53] Urchlay, was it you made a patch for grep the other day, when we testing speeds vs utf8? [11:53] yeah, but for instance, I packaged up a game that comes as 2 downloads (engine + datafiles). I wanted to do 'em as separate packages, but they decided to combine them together... which is fine (datafiles are useless w/out the game, and vice versa) [11:54] dive: well, I borrowed a patch from debian, anyway [11:54] Is there a way to make irssi log all that is previously captured in a window? [11:54] Urchlay, I just did 'LC_ALL=en.US slackpkg upgrade-all' and the speed increase was astounding. [11:54] Quiznos: so, the SlackBuild script looks for the data file in the build directory and aborts without it... but the .info file only has one spot for DOWNLOAD=, so you can't automate it [11:55] dive: yeah [11:55] nsp #irssi? [11:55] dive: I sent a note to PV about it, along with the patches. Not got a response (bet he's very busy right now!) [11:55] why does locale make a diff in apparent wall clock time? [11:55] all the calls not being made by the _()? [11:56] Quiznos: cause grep's UTF-8 decoder is *painfully* slow [11:56] k [11:56] rewrite it in asm then [11:56] nika (n=nika@212.45.14.5) joined ##slackware. [11:56] no need [11:56] if that's the bottle then that's the answer [11:57] nah, the trouble is the algorithm is terrible. [11:57] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:57] someone came up with a better algorithm (still implemented in C though) [11:57] yea; so just be done with HL and use asm; it's easy to write a asm func to combine upto 4 bytes [11:57] skip the middle men [11:58] yeah, but GNU grep is supposed to be cross-platform, so you end up needing someone to write that function for every CPU it could ever possibly be compiled for [11:58] pff [11:58] Nick change: nika -> cigarettesmoker [11:58] cross plat isnt a panacea either [11:59] sigh [11:59] not going to argue that one way or the other, but the GNU guys would, if you said that to them. They're not going to change their minds... [12:00] i know [12:00] That's because the GNU guys never change their minds. [12:00] it's a pvt opinion [12:00] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@213.188.82.134) left irc: [12:01] anyway, what's actually needed is for the GNU grep maintainer to merge the patches that fix the problem. Redhat, Debian, SUSE, and all their derivatives, already patch their grep... so it's seen plenty of testing [12:02] Quiznos: yes irssi and I found it: "/lastlog -window 2 -file ~/irclogs/file-name.txt" (assuming ~/irclogs exists) [12:02] ok [12:03] See: /help lastlog [12:03] how long since grep was last released? [12:03] (Been needing to learn that for a while. [12:03] Quiznos: I don't know but it' [12:03] s been on the loose for a long time. :) [12:04] well if grep is unmaintained then complain to main GNU maintainers group [12:04] Sorry about the extra line but the last joint of my little finger has been cut off and it's a bit big on the end :( [12:04] they do (i think) have a primary group overseeing everything [12:04] heh [12:05] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [12:06] If one does X -configure, does he need to turn off the Xserver first? [12:07] yay Rush hour!! [12:07] yes [12:08] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Quiznos: Yes? Yes what? We have to hurry through this hour? [12:08] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:08] rush limbaugh [12:08] yes, stop x [12:08] nsp, yes, turn it off first [12:08] btw, make a backup of the original [12:09] (the trick is always getting it to turn back on w/o errors) [12:09] Quiznos: Ok thanks. and hoobop [12:09] rush limbaugh is only on for one hour? [12:09] i wish [12:09] 3 [12:09] heh [12:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:09] hoobop whom do you listen to? [12:09] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [12:09] mostly npr and internet radio [12:09] who on the net? [12:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Ok we must all retire to the radio and listen to what the fat man has to say :) [12:10] do you mean "talk" radio personalities? [12:10] yes [12:10] nsp; he's lost alot of weight since march iinm [12:10] like 60# so far [12:10] Quiznos: Hate to tell you but I don't listen to Rush either. You'll have to tell me what he says. :) [12:11] no one in particular; the news on NPR, i listen to RNE (radio nacional de espana) a lot [12:11] that's ok; we're not going deep ;) [12:11] "since march iinm" [12:11] hoobop kool [12:11] ? [12:11] Rush has lost ~60# since march. [12:12] Oh, he's loosing weitht. well, heck, can't call him fatman anymore. :( [12:12] :) [12:12] Quiznos: Actually, I do listen to him, (once in a while), but for intertainment pruposes only. :) [12:13] sure thats fine. [12:13] And only when I'm sorely in the need for intertainment :) [12:13] i dont mind the maxim: know thine enemy; but i cant abide outright lying. [12:13] No, really, he is kind of interesting to listen to at times, long as you don' [12:13] i dont listen to much if any main-stream media. i've 99% quit them. [12:13] t take him to serously. [12:13] ok [12:13] that works for you? [12:14] (sorry about the fat finger again. [12:14] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-136-93-22.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [12:14] I dont agree with everything he says; i think he doesnt go far enough, specially with integrating what he knows with scripture so to make a point. [12:14] hahahah [12:15] :) [12:15] You're talking about the leader of the GOP, Rush Limbaugh? [12:15] lol [12:15] Quiznos: One of the lines that Rush and fiends has is that the main stream media is all a pack of lies, they distort the truth. I'm not sure I'll buy into that one. [12:15] i wish he would use more supporting scripture; there's plenty to use [12:15] bahahahahahahahahah [12:15] eviljames conservative [12:15] nsp; ok. [12:15] I couldn't care less how fat he is, the guy is a contrarian moron without an original thought in his head. [12:15] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [12:16] that's your opinion. [12:16] He's NOT conservative, that's for sure. [12:16] what's wrong with being contrarian? [12:16] i'm contrary [12:16] i tilt at windmills too [12:16] call me DonQuixote [12:16] eviljames: I wouldn't say that. His thoughts are his, (mostly not mine), but he's pretty intelligent. [12:16] Lindbaugh just does/says whatever makes MONEY/ratings [12:17] Not sure I agree with the way he uses his intelligence, but, I will give him that. [12:17] nah [12:17] intelligence is relative... and rush limbaugh is about as intelligent as a grain of rice [12:17] but what's wrong with making money? [12:17] nothing [12:17] is anyone harmed by his making money? [12:17] look at the economy... then ask that question again [12:17] then why disparage what he does? [12:17] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:17] Nothing's wrong with making money, cluseau is just pointing out that he doesn't even necessarily believe the rampant bigtory he spews on his radio show. [12:17] It's all about people who want to advertise to the lowest common denominator. [12:17] it's as Rush says ... follow the money [12:17] no; the Libs are wrong; making money is NOT evil as they would have one think [12:18] That's an idiotic strawman, quiz. [12:18] Quiznos: I sometimes watch the "Spin Factor" and when they say "the spin stops here" I can help think that it STARTS there. [12:18] limbaugh is not a bigot [12:18] lol [12:18] nsp "spin" is perspective. that's all. [12:18] Limbaugh could hurt ppl by making money, [12:18] lol, spin is spin [12:18] "spin" is perspective. that's all. [12:18] adding to the money that drug dealers have... [12:19] Quiznos: I have never heard the "libs" say that making mone is wrong. [12:19] xxjx you're dnot being objective [12:19] or evil [12:19] Quiznos: Uhh, I don't think it's hard to demonstrate that limbaugh is a bigot, and I'll go so far as to say many of the people who agree with him are bigoted as well. [12:19] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] nsp it's the concept of what they teach, say, and do. [12:19] nope i'm not :D [12:19] Nick change: fiyawerx_ -> fiya_werkin [12:19] tax the rich. tax and spend, wealth redistribution. [12:19] etc [12:19] nsp: That's because it was a strawman argument, don't engage it. [12:19] lol ej [12:19] there are only two groups of ppl who pay taxes. [12:20] Anybody using Slackware64-current? [12:20] shik4nt4z4: I am. [12:20] nop [12:20] poor and poorer :P [12:20] Quiznos: That's a "spin" but it has nothing to support it. [12:20] eviljames: Can you help me with a Kicad install? Or check if install works for you? [12:20] shik4nt4z4: I'm looking into it. [12:21] shik4nt4z4: i thought you got that done [12:21] Nothing on slackbuilds, eh? [12:21] all federal taxes are levied on the right to do some act that is a privilege, instead of a right to do. [12:21] eviljames: No. [12:21] Quiznos: Not true. [12:21] the question is, what privilege are people using that give the govt right/auth to tax [12:21] Necos: No, I did not. There are some problems with 64bit and 32bit... [12:21] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:22] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] eviljames: Here is the link to the app: http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/kicad-sources-2009-02-16.tar.gz [12:23] Quiznos: That is a blanket statement that is not well founded at all. Taxes are levied yes, but not for "priviledged acts" only. But what you just said was "on the right" and not sure if that's what you ment to say or not... but oh well, this is OT anyway. [12:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [12:23] eviljames: I have installed wxGTK but it still gives errors on missing libraries. [12:23] i love oT [12:24] tax are a fee for using, doing some privilege; a right cannot be converted to a privilege and thus be limited or controled (Miranda) [12:24] eviljames: I think the problem may be in Kicad install files, cmake... not shure but must be Kicad related. [12:24] Quiznos: I know, it is an interesting discussion, (to you and me), but not for some others on here, I am sure. [12:24] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:24] while there is on-topic, we can move the offtopic to ##slackofftopic [12:24] [hitn] [12:24] s/hitn/hint/ [12:25] Quiznos: It is hard to distinguish between what is a right or a privilege. [12:25] they havent said anythig. :) [12:26] nsp a right is something that people are born with. a privilege is give to corporations. [12:26] given [12:26] people are created by God; corporatins are created by man. [12:27] shik4nt4z4: It looks like it might require the package wxX11 from SBo [12:27] shik4nt4z4: but I could be wrong. [12:27] hello guys. .I compiled a kernel(beginner) and on rebooting I got this error "Kernel panic -not syncing :VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2).. can anyone help me out ? thanks :) [12:27] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:27] ga_bash: The root cause is that the kernel cannot find or cannot read your filesystem. [12:28] ga_bash: Precisely which it is would take more information. [12:28] eviljames, so how to provide more [12:28] eviljames: I have tryied that too. [12:28] Quiznos: If what you say is true: Then we do not have the right to an attorney if we are in trouble with the law, and we do not have the right to education and we do not have the right to etc.etc.etc. [12:30] ga_bash: Well, the common criminals in a case like this are that a) didn't include ext{2,3} to the kernel, or didn't include ATA drivers, or because your system may have changed from using /dev/hda to /dev/sda nomenclature that fstab might need some correcting. [12:30] nsp it appears that your comprehension of the reason and jurisdiction of national constitution is flawed; our rights are not affected by the const except for those things explicitly mentioned in it. border defense for instance, interstate commerce. [12:30] nsp, Quiznos, point of order: While there is on-topic questions, off-topic discussino should be moved. [12:30] nsp the more tho, is that the const came from us. it doesnt apply to us. [12:30] Quiznos: In other words, all services provided by gov. are privileges and not rights, so in that case, your arguement is correct, all taxes are levied for privileges not rights. Conlusion: You are correct. [12:30] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:30] ok [12:31] ##slackofftopic is more than happy to host discussions of this nature [12:31] [pause] [12:31] and I'll be more than happy to school you both on it :D [12:31] bring a dictionary :> [12:31] I am a dictionary. [12:31] Quiznos: No, according to you, we do not have a right to security, that is only a privilege. [12:31] pff [12:31] ga_bash: Do you still have the old kernel to try to boot from? [12:31] [pause] !! [12:32] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] But governments have decided that some things for it's poeple are rights and some are privileges and so they provide services accordingly, some for one some for the other. [12:32] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:33] shik4nt4z4: I just tried cmake on kicad, have the same issue. No wxWidgets installed. [12:33] shik4nt4z4: It looks like the wxX11 package on SBo has not been converted for 64 bit yet. [12:35] eviljames: Thank you. I will try to convert it. [12:35] Now I need to go. See you later. [12:35] shik4nt4z4: No worries, I'm actually doing so at the moment. [12:35] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.34) left irc: "leaving" [12:35] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [12:38] rain here [12:38] who ordered that? [12:38] eviljames, no at the prompt. there's only one kernel that runs into panic. fortunately I dint have any serious data on it [12:39] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] wow heavy rain. [12:39] atun (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:40] eviljames, I compiled with the default configurations. so I wonder how that ran into problem [12:40] hello, any openbox people here ? [12:40] ga_bash: I had a similar issue because the way the kernel named drives changed [12:41] ga_bash: so /etc/fstab was looking for /dev/hda when the system was providing /dev/sda [12:41] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] eviljames, but it was the source from the slackware cd.. [12:41] ga_bash: You recompiled the exact same kernel, with the exact same config and got that result? [12:42] I worked with conky but the text is in the wrong place, anyone who can help me ? [12:42] eviljames, I used defconfig. compiled and got this result [12:43] ga_bash: make defocnfig does the default configuration, not the one that Slackware provides iirc [12:44] never relyon defconfig for a booting kernel [12:44] rely on* [12:44] eviljames, so how does that make a difference [12:44] :) [12:44] you need to customize the options for your chipset [12:45] hey are there any good tools to prepare diagrams like this one ->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kernel-simple.png [12:45] indeed, as thrice states [12:45] like DFDs etc [12:46] the kernel panic is a result of it not being able to see your root partition; this is because you a) didn't add support for it's file system, or b) didn't add support for the harddrive controller [12:46] I'd guess it's even both of those ;) [12:47] eviljames, so slack doesnt follow the defconfig? [12:47] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:47] ok, i'm going to quit talking to myself [12:48] heh [12:48] thrice`: you can talk to me if you don't mind :) [12:48] thrice`, thanks.. [12:48] init[1]: thanks :) [12:48] ga_bash: No, slackware does not follow the defconfig. [12:49] thrice`: heh, I had pointed that out earlier, but at least that should confirm and cement the statement :D [12:49] eviljames, so how do I make the config a/c to my arch? :) [12:50] ga_bash: make oldconfig or use the config that Slackware provides are both good first steps. [12:50] tell him to use rdev.8 [12:50] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:50] no one who can help me with a openbox problem ??? [12:50] eviljames, thanks.. :) [12:50] roelof: what does your conkyrc say? [12:50] roelof no one currently here knows it if they dint answer [12:50] er, ~/.conkyrc [12:51] oops ok [12:52] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [12:52] eviljames, one small but silly question. if in b/w during compilation a signal is sent (by arrow keys) does that wreck the process? [12:53] b/w? [12:53] ga_bash what's wrong with defconfig (from kernel menuconfig?) [12:53] ga_bash: nah, shouldn't. mightm ake your terminal beep? [12:54] eviljames, thanks. heh.. :) [12:54] Quiznos, I dont know.. [12:54] roelof: pastebin your ~/.conkyrc [12:54] ga_bash read `make help' for "defconfig" [12:54] thrice, ,my .conkyrc can you find here : http://pastebin.com/m25b5ed12 [12:55] Quiznos, all right thanks. [12:55] k [12:55] roelof: ok, and that puts it on the top left ? [12:56] nope, I have this layout : http://ubuntucorner.blogspot.com/2008/06/openbox-pypanel-netwmpager.html [12:56] and the text begins at the right corner instead of the left corner [12:56] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:57] roelof: ok, and before going any further, any reason you're asking in #slackware? [12:57] yep, Im working with slackware 12.2 [12:57] dusty (n=dusty@www.linuxgeek.org.uk) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] ok, interesting blogpost name ;) [12:58] I think the author works with ubuntu [12:58] roelof: Author of what? (just got here) [12:58] Author of a openbox article [12:59] roelof: aah, I see: [12:59] ${alignc} [12:59] that must be it [13:00] try to kill that guy [13:00] oke, im learning openbox and themes,. Why is that wrong and what must it be ? [13:01] I think that makes it align to center [13:01] I dont' think many of us slackers have used openbox. We my not have much knowledge about it [13:01] I hope im not that guy :( [13:01] I'd try to remove that, kill conky, and start again [13:01] nsp: I think you'd be surprised :) [13:02] this guys customised his panel by drawing the panel and conkey backgrounds on the wallpaper... [13:02] thrice`: Oh well, maybe so. Stranger things have happende. [13:02] I guess I stand corrected. [13:02] yay \o/, aa .. how can i forget xfig :/ [13:02] ....yet again! :) [13:02] is he nuts? [13:02] DeiBellum (n=root@65.166.76.68) joined ##slackware. [13:04] shik4nt4z4: When you're around, I think kicad will install with wxGTK [13:04] not good, now everything is put right on the left corner of the screen [13:04] execpt the date part [13:04] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [13:04] is your goal for the top left corner? [13:05] nope, my goal is to put the output of conky in the glass part of the screen [13:05] ooh, I thought you meant that was the problem [13:06] btw, xfig is crashing [13:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] try drawing a rectangle and choose [edit [13:06] xfig3.2.5b: SIGSEGV signal trapped [13:06] thrice. nope, what i meant was that date is on the right corner of the glass part [13:07] try using the alignment setting in the configuration? [13:07] where it must be on the left part of the glass part [13:07] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-89-210.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:08] oke., there is now top_left . can i make this centered. [13:09] This is the first time working with openbox and it's a big challenge [13:09] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-89-210.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [13:09] is there any one facing the same xfig issue on -current ? [13:09] sorry, I'm not working with current [13:09] try using alignment middle_left then use the gap_x and gap_y to move it to the location you want [13:10] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:10] you want to move all of the conky screen correct? [13:11] I want to move the text in the conky screen to the right place [13:11] ah [13:11] but im right back , dinner is ready [13:11] ok 1 sec [13:11] I want to make a screen shot but I don't know how in openbox [13:11] BRB [13:12] roelof: man 1 import [13:13] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:13] wb Urchlay [13:14] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:25] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. [13:27] ok, offtopic is welcome back in ##slackware :P [13:27] huh? [13:27] Guidelines are pretty clear (and I've been playing otcop this morning) [13:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] has ot ever official not been welcome? dont remember ever seeing any major issues, and people seem to chat about random stuff quite often when nothing else is going on [13:29] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] fiya_werkin: heh, the guidelines ask for people to shift o/t elsewhere while on-topic q's are being asked. [13:30] fiya_werkin: So, ##slackofftopic has been set up for that express purpose, and earlier today I was inviting people there.. [13:30] ah gotcha [13:30] spook & I were discussing the national debt of the usa [13:30] any takers? [13:31] Action: fiya_werkin starts a competing ##slackware-ot [13:31] you want to ditch your national debt on some unsuspecting irc user? [13:31] oke, im back [13:31] Action: fiya_werkin doesn't really, just liked the name better [13:31] RogueAI (n=RogueAI@75-120-138-138.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] dive: It's not much, Canada sits at only 500billion. [13:32] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] dive: Can I borrow your amex for a few days? [13:32] if I had one you most certainly could [13:32] not [13:32] Ä [13:33] $20 to whoever can get me a link to download the gnu software called 'webcam' [13:33] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:33] or something similar [13:33] Deibellum, now the text is in the middle left of the screen [13:34] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/ [13:34] but on the vertical line not on the horizontal line [13:35] spook: that it? ^^ [13:35] he, and i see the date part two times [13:35] looks like its an apache extension [13:35] fiya_werkin: looks ANCIENT [13:35] you didnt specify recent :-P [13:35] one time on the middele of the virtical line and one time on the glass part [13:36] where it must be [13:36] sides its web based [13:36] i actually need to find a decent webcam and headset for a distance learning class im taking, hmm [13:37] logitech quickcam pro 9000 [13:37] yeah? [13:37] hm, 100$ [13:38] maybe can talk the wife into it if we're gonna be videoconferencing with the relatives to show them the baby a lot [13:38] I will right back , i restart openbox complet [13:38] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:40] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-83-205.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [13:40] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-83-205.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [13:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cc4578dc05f6e03d) joined ##slackware. [13:41] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Action: init[1] waiting for some one to reply on xfig issue [13:43] hm, i hate trying to look for stuff with too ambiguous names [13:43] that'd like writing an html editor called html [13:43] or trying to find the band 'live' [13:44] That band sucks anyway [13:44] So, don't bother. [13:44] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [13:44] init[1]: What's the deal with xfig? [13:44] init[1], I can try xfig a bit later n -current [13:44] eviljames: i'm now on current [13:44] RogueAI (n=RogueAI@75-120-138-138.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] xfig seems to crash , [13:44] must go shops for supplies [13:45] dive: np,when back we will try out :) [13:45] yep [13:46] eviljames: try drawing a rectangle and choose any menu options [13:46] i get these errors [13:46] xfig3.2.5b: SIGSEGV signal trapped [13:46] xfig: attempting to save figure [13:48] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:49] init[1]: Sorry, I'm at console atm, won't be able to test for another 7 hours or so. [13:49] anyone understanding of conky. I have a placing problem ? [13:49] fire|bird: do you still use conky? [13:49] eviljames: np, [13:50] Action: init[1] thinks fire|bird is on X and using current [13:50] Yeah, I know he is, but there was a time a few months ago that he was using conky [13:51] i swear....this computer is conspiring against me [13:52] eviljames: yes i remember that, and he did imagebined that irritating wallpaper on flux along with conky [13:52] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] right now i am having this problem with the bare.i kernel from Slackware 10.2: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0512.3/1306.html [13:53] Why Slackware 10? [13:53] but i don't understand this workaround they are discussing [13:53] 11 won't boot, 12 gives kernel panic because only 32mb of ram [13:53] yes i know i should get more memory for it and i may if i scrap up the extra money sometime [13:54] Action: init[1] Chakravanti loves talking to him self :D [13:54] 10.2 boots, but apparently there is a bug that doesn't causes support for this cdrom to fail [13:55] Chakravanti: Why not DSL? [13:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Im using this conkyrc (http://primoturbo.pastebin.com/f723a9271) but the text is on the right corner instead of the left corner of a area i wanted [13:55] yes, i should probably do DSL [13:56] it's only damn disk that i've had any success with [13:56] Hi [13:56] but Slackware is just so good =( [13:56] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Chakravanti: You can find more lightweight slackware based linux distros [13:57] Chakravanti, it's a jewel :} [13:57] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] i was just hoping someone understood this workaround and could help me it [13:57] cuz I have come to <3 Slackware [13:57] and DSL has no community support [13:57] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] Another question : If a want a light window manager, which one can I use the best ? [13:58] roelof, light and great > Xfce [13:58] roelof: xfce is very light and full featured [13:58] very light and nice > Flubox [13:58] roelof: WindowMaker is also nice :D [13:58] Chakravanti: goddamnit... didn't you see the link i pasted yesterday? [13:59] shik4nt4z4: fyi: KiCad built for me just fine. [13:59] shik4nt4z4: After installing wxGTK from SBo [13:59] i must have missed it [13:59] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] i left yesterday out of frustration [14:00] eviljames: Have you compiled it with some special options? [14:01] precisely none. [14:01] sorry =( [14:01] shik4nt4z4: You can repeat exactly what I did to try for yourself. [14:01] hey roelof still having problems with the text? [14:01] sorry, I am at work and was called away [14:01] shik4nt4z4: wget http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/libraries/wxGTK.tar.gz and then tar -xf that file. [14:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] roelof, use the $offset variable [14:02] shik4nt4z4: Go into the wxGTK folder and type: $ source ./wxGTK.info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD && su -c 'ARCH=x86_64 ./wxGTK.SlackBuild' [14:03] oke, i can try to make offset - 10 for example, Devibellum [14:03] shik4nt4z4: That should build wxGTK package for you, then upgradepkg --install-new that package (apologies if this is stuff you're well aware of, I'm not sure of your skill level..) [14:03] shik4nt4z4: Then I went into kicad source folder and typed:$ cmake . [14:03] shik4nt4z4: It threw a warning about libz I think, but running make built it. [14:04] eviljames: Nice. One moment... [14:04] roelof, be advised that it moves it over by pixel not by spaces [14:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:05] shik4nt4z4: I'm working on a slackbuild at the moment. [14:07] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Connection timed out [14:07] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [14:08] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:08] oke [14:09] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [14:10] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [14:11] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "akhg7" [14:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Chakravanti: i gotta find that link again :( [14:13] i would appreciate any help very much =) [14:13] eviljames: I was making the wxGTK SlackBuild the same way. [14:13] it will not be in vain....i will make this bitch work no matter how much she fights me =) [14:13] i'm on a mission [14:14] eviljames: Installing through installpkg, though. [14:14] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:14] shik4nt4z4: upgradepkg --install-new is what I recommend, but the net effect is likely the same. [14:15] Chakravanti: What kernel option do you use at boot time? [14:15] eviljames: I will try that now. [14:15] eviljames: Package is still compiling. [14:15] wxgtk, you mean? [14:16] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:16] bare.i [14:16] it recognizes and identifies the cdrom....but not during install [14:17] eviljames: Yes. [14:17] when i try to target it for the source [14:17] ohh, it's back [14:17] Chakravanti: By the way. You can use a prebuilt kernel. I don't know how to do that though. Yet! [14:17] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:17] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Chakravanti: By prebuilt I mean built by yourself. [14:18] :-) [14:19] yes [14:19] i was kinda planning to do that eventually [14:19] i already built a 2.6.30.4 kernel to my specifications [14:19] but it was for practice rather than implementation [14:19] learning [14:20] best thing about setting my linux machine back up at home, can access from work via ssh and chat now :-D [14:20] get those TPS reports done asap [14:21] Action: eviljames is doing one atm [14:21] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: "I'm off here" [14:21] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [14:21] not really, but might as well be. [14:21] "How much time each day would you say you spend dealing with these TPS report?" [14:22] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-167.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] "You had SEX with Lumbergh??: [14:23] I watched that the other day. :D [14:23] such a great movie [14:23] i love that movie [14:23] Very Taoist imho [14:24] Action: fiya_werkin works in quite the cube farm [14:24] And Geto Boys are the soundtrack, how awesome is that [14:25] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Client Quit [14:25] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [14:28] eviljames: The mth fucker complains again on the same sh**. [14:28] I am desperate. [14:28] shik4nt4z4: pastebin the log [14:30] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] eviljames: http://pastebin.com/d6663fad6 [14:31] i think it's cause you have too many 4's in your username [14:32] shik4nt4z4: Do the /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/*.h files exist on your system? [14:32] eviljames: Yes, they do. [14:32] I chacked that even on previous tryes. [14:33] Ups. Sorry for my englo-chinese. [14:33] okay well...i have to go to work so i can get some herbal patience to make this bitch work. [14:34] if you do happen across that link Necos just PM it to me, i'll be lurking [14:34] Ups. Sorry for my anglo-chinese. [14:34] Chakravanti: Good luck! [14:34] shik4nt4z4: Okay, no worries about englo-nese :D, what does:$ cmake . [14:34] shik4nt4z4: what does that output? [14:35] oh luck isn't to do with it...it's just a matter of time...i will crack this bitch. But thank you for the sentiment! [14:36] eviljames: http://pastebin.com/d47a8945 [14:36] I think the best phrase I've come across lately was this - logged into one of our helpdesk tickets by a 'level 2' - "Unable to find a way to disconnect this connect, as this is normally only connect when the user is on the VPN" [14:36] Chakravanti: You are welcome! CRACK THAT BITCH! [14:37] The SlackBuild that I wrote for kicad works on my -current 32 bit system but I have wxPython installed [14:37] they were blaming a vpn issue on the 1394 connection :( [14:37] this wouldn't be the fault but why does it not find zlib installed ? zlib is included with slack [14:37] And, oddly, it warns of a zlib conflict on my system. [14:37] sec [14:37] eviljames: Do you have wxPython installed? [14:38] eviljames: I know about that. I have just removed zlib and wxGTK uses its own. I have read about in INSTALL file. [14:39] I did not remove zlib. [14:39] eviljames: I had the same problem with zlib present. [14:39] Lord_Khelben: it does find zlib. it whines about minizip: -- Check for installed zlib -- found [14:39] "-- Check for installed zlib -- not found" [14:39] eviljames: Do you have wxPython installed? [14:40] i read it in the pastebin [14:40] this is from my build http://pastebin.com/m2324694c [14:40] shik4nt4z4: No, sir. [14:40] Hm [14:40] antiwire: That's precisely my cmake . output. [14:41] eviljames: Just to make sure you know he's doing this on slackware64-current right? [14:41] antiwire: as am I. [14:41] k [14:41] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:41] antiwire: I told him. Thank you! :-) [14:41] antiwire: Last time I have just forgot. Sorry! [14:41] shik4nt4z4: yeah well was making sure he knew because you didn't tell me that until much later [14:41] What seems odd to me is that gcc is not finding the wxwidgets include files on his system [14:41] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:41] antiwire: Sorry! [14:42] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:42] eviljames: I was thinking the same thing and I have passed to make -I /usr/include/wx-2.8 [14:43] init[1], I just tried xfig and got same error. Have you tried strace or gdb yet? [14:43] Useless! [14:43] shik4nt4z4: I'm going through the makefile atm..sec [14:43] dive: not yet, i thought it would be unique to me as i did custom install [14:44] eviljames: Have you done your SlackBuild script for Kicad? Maybe I can try it. [14:44] sz^ (n=sz@a91-152-189-40.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:44] :-) [14:45] shik4nt4z4: Well, my slackbuild script would do precisely what we're doing at the command line (and then adjust as appropriate for lib64) [14:45] Action: yesyes eats 4 chocolate eclairs [14:45] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] shik4nt4z4: So, if "cmake . && make" doesn't work for you, my slackbuild wouldn't either. [14:45] eviljames: Right... [14:46] yesyes, goddamn, gimme Ä [14:46] Action: dive will just have to put up with ruddles county bitter [14:46] dive: from strace ,there are plenty of -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [14:47] antiwire: how versed are you in cmake? [14:47] cant need them. hard day at work. main server died, and the guy who wrote our backup script didn't realise fat32 had a max file size of 4 gigs, so nothing had been backed up all this year. [14:48] antiwire: or anyone else...my install on my thinkpad with lvm/crypt went great, then I tried to redo the initrd for suspend to disk support using the mkinitrd_command_generator.sh script. That didn't work so well. Now I can't seem to come up with the right combo entry with the bootdisk to get it mounted to fix this mess. [14:48] yeah, love that kind of stuff: )) [14:48] eviljames: Maybe there is something with my file structure?!?!? [14:48] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:49] shik4nt4z4: Instead of passing -I to make, we can try overriding the cflags that cmake provides when it builds the makefile. [14:49] eviljames: I think I have tried that to but... One moment... [14:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:50] shik4nt4z4: cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE="-Wall -O2 -DNDEBUG -I/usr/include/wx-2.8" . [14:50] alienBOB: there is are some issues with xfig in current,please do consider it. [14:50] eviljames: So I need to edit CMakeLists.txt right? [14:50] eviljames: i did something like this: cd kicad-source-dire && mkdir build && cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:STRING=/usr [14:51] riiight, the options for cmake are wonky as hell. [14:51] greetings fire|bird [14:51] eviljames: Well, I have tried that too. :-) [14:51] and they're CXX options as well, iirc [14:51] Hello, fire|bird! [14:51] hey chopp, how's it going? [14:51] hi shik4nt4z4, how are you? [14:51] chopp: you might need to use the install disk to fix up the initrd [14:52] fire|bird: other than messing up my initrd, I'm doing great. [14:52] messing up? What'd you do? :P [14:52] eviljames: I have added to C and CXX -fPIC. Is that right? [14:53] shik4nt4z4: cmake -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS:STRING="-Wall -fPIC -I/usr/include/wx-2.8" . [14:53] fire|bird: Trying to install Kicad with no luck! :-) In rest, I am OK. You? [14:53] antiwire: yeah thats precisely what I'm trying to do, but can't seem to get the proper entry on it to boot it up [14:53] shik4nt4z4: doing excellent, thanks. [14:53] eviljames: OK. One moment. [14:53] fire|bird: Nice. :-) [14:53] chopp: I use something similar to this mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r crypt -C /dev/sda2 -o /boot/initrd-2.6.29.6-luks.gz [14:53] then make sure ot use the correct initrd name in lilo.conf [14:53] the :STRING part isn't necessary. it just doesn't hurt though [14:53] Hey Lord_Khelben [14:54] hello fire|bird [14:54] antiwire: right from the boot prompt? I thought I had to boot it first? [14:54] yoyo sup fire|bird [14:54] Lord_Khelben: Just ensuring completeness :D [14:54] eviljames: OMG. Just doesn't want to make it and that's it. [14:54] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "leaving" [14:54] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [14:54] shik4nt4z4: verify in CMakeCache.txt that the CXX Flags have been set. [14:54] fire|bird: trying to add suspend to disk support to my initrd, and messed it up [14:55] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77556.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] you can also add -DLIB_SUFFIX=64 if you are using 64bit [14:55] chopp: good work. :P [14:55] fire|bird: yeah yeah :P [14:55] normally -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib64 would be enough but many programs don't honour it and need -DLIB_SUFFIX too [14:55] Lord_Khelben: Is that so? It doesn't seem that way from the CMake File for this project [14:55] SM177Y (i=1000@24-231-141-227.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:56] Lord_Khelben: Unless that is a generic option? kicad's cmakelists.txt seems to indicate (and make DESTDIR confirmed) that only one file is put there, and the relevant option is -DKICAD_PLUGIN... [14:56] chopp: I'm not sure about the state of your system. How far does it get when you try to boot it? [14:56] fire|bird: I'll use the excuse that this is my first time using an initrd. ;) [14:56] eviljames: it correctly installs libs to lib64 ? [14:56] It does not. [14:56] Nick change: phzin -> phhh [14:56] But I'll try with -DLIB_SUFFIX to test. [14:56] Nick change: phhh -> phzin [14:56] chopp: haha, excuses, excuses. :P Hope you get it working. [14:57] Action: slackytude opens a beer [14:57] evening gents [14:57] y0 slackytude [14:57] slackytude: you're making me jealous! [14:57] Action: eviljames wants beer [14:57] some cmake project (eg avidemux 2.5.0) don't even honour LIB_SUFFIX. they have lib harcoded [14:57] fire|bird, greetings, oh mystic phoenix [14:57] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-177-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. 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I also tried booting with /dev/cryptvg/root [14:59] kernel panic results [15:00] roelof: Looks like this file was made on a windows platform (^M is the clue) [15:00] ive also tried running real player using aoss which made no difference [15:00] SM177Y: maybe its some issue with realplayer. try running it from a terminal to see possible erros and if there aren't, then strace it to see why it can't access the sound devices [15:00] ya theres no errors from terminal as thats the first thing i tried [15:00] RogueAI (n=RogueAI@75-120-138-138.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:00] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [15:01] oke, and how to solve this : I downloaded the file on a slackware box with firefox [15:01] roelof: cat weather.sh |fromdos > test.sh and see if that file works [15:01] Maybe the my laptop is just laughing at me? [15:01] bbiab [15:01] Not working. [15:02] Lord_Khelben, fromdos < weather.sh > test.sh [15:02] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] roelof: or what slackytude said. it is the same command [15:02] you are getting sleepy [15:03] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] hackedhe1d (n=hackedhe@pool-96-228-118-234.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] Lord_Khelben, not that anything was wrong with yours. just getting ahead of pipe nazis [15:03] oke , i did it and got no error messages [15:03] roelof: does sh test.sh work ? [15:04] eviljames: Last possible solution is not working. [15:04] what version of kicad is that ? [15:05] I now get the message : USAGE weather.sh [15:05] roelof: then it works [15:05] aye [15:06] Lord_Khelben: Kicad-sources-2009-02-16 [15:06] well if i run realplayer from a terminal as root and then play a video, it returns "Opening ALSA PCM device cards.pcm.default" and plays the video just fine, when doing the same thing as non root user, it still plays the video just fine, there is just no sound and i dont get the opening alsa line returned [15:06] sweet dude [15:06] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:06] roelof: normally it should work even with cr-lf but since it works now its ok [15:06] move the test.sh to weather.sh [15:06] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.120.220) left irc: "shutdown -h" [15:06] SM177Y, I blame real [15:06] Lord_Khelben: But maybe the problem is not even in Kicad installation files? [15:06] cant go wrong with that [15:07] why tho, ive never had this problem with realplayer before [15:07] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] it's always worked fine for me in the past [15:07] Nick change: hackedhe1d -> hackedhead [15:07] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cc4578dc05f6e03d) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "leaving" [15:08] SM177Y: mplayer fully supports realmedia files (with seeking) for some time [15:08] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] ya but i'd take real over mplayer anyday. just my preference i suppose [15:09] does open office writer spell checking work ? I mean i don't get notification even if i make mistakes [15:09] do you ake mistakes? [15:09] i only use real player for real media vids (mostly anime :P) everything else i use xine [15:09] SM177Y: you can try strace -e trace=open -o rp.log realplayer blah blah [15:09] init[1]: It's always worked for me. [15:09] init[1]: do oyu have auto spell check enabled? [15:10] it will produce a rp.log with every open syscall, you can see if it accesses the sound card and if not why [15:10] yes antiwire fire|bird [15:10] so what is it missing then? [15:10] don't way for the file to be played close realplayer once the file begins [15:10] paste it [15:10] don't wait even [15:10] antiwire: its not highlighting my mistakes [15:11] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i mean spelling mistakes [15:11] Lord_Khelben: that strace there has to be run as root, which doesnt help since realplayer already works fine as root [15:11] init[1]: We know, antiwire asked you to paste what it's missing. :) [15:11] SM177Y: why it has to be run as root ? [15:11] ooh [15:11] nvm lol [15:11] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-172.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] my bad, i was in a root dir when trying to make that log lolz :P [15:12] OK. Thank you everybody for help! [15:12] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:13] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] hm.. Medal of Freedom for Stephen Hawking.. nice [15:13] fire|bird: antiwire i don't know what to paste , i mean i just enabled the spellchecking and it doesn't work, [15:13] init[1]: Well, what's an example of a word you didn't spell correctly that it didn't pick up on? [15:14] never going to give you up, never going to let you down, never going to run around and desert you. never going to make you cry, never going to say goodbye [15:14] cgoetz (n=cgoetz@d54C67CD9.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [15:14] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] hi [15:14] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [15:15] hi [15:15] up until 68% kicad builds fine. i am waiting for the error any second now [15:15] any way to keep slackware up to date with security patches . [15:15] cgoetz: slackpkg [15:15] fire|bird: antiwire [15:15] Develpmental Envronment . [15:16] cgoetz: subscribe to the slackware-security mailing list [15:16] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] cgoetz, slackpkg [15:16] hello world [15:16] slackpkg - does it allow only for security updates? [15:16] hello Nigromante [15:16] yes cgoetz [15:16] world: Nigromante [15:16] init[1]: Well, mine highlights those words. [15:17] ok what about slack 13 [15:17] cgoetz: it allows for all updates, but after a stable release only security updates exist [15:17] cgoetz, it has access to all the packets in slackware, including /patches and /extra [15:17] fire|bird: let me check the setting again, [15:17] running kde 4 - don't like it - to heavy - going the xp way :-( [15:17] fire|bird: btw can you confrim one more thing [15:18] fire|bird: there is some problem with xfig [15:18] on current , [15:18] actually kde4 is/feels lighter than kde3 [15:18] kde4 gets a speed boost with 4.3 as well [15:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] slackytude: It sure did. :P [15:18] Action: slackytude nods [15:18] yeah i run kde 4.3.0 for some days and it feels nice :) [15:18] init[1]: what problem is that? [15:19] fire|bird: run , it and draw a rectangle, and choose [edit] [15:19] Lord_Khelben: yeah, very nice. Do you use the desktop plasmoid? Have you discovered mousing over folders yet? [15:19] will 4.3 be included? [15:19] ok is it slack 13RC2 [15:19] Nigromante, nope [15:19] Nigromante: no [15:19] ok [15:19] mostly i would crash [15:19] cgoetz: yes [15:19] s/i/it/ [15:19] fire|bird: the "show desktop" one ? [15:19] what about packages for 13RC2 [15:19] Lord_Khelben: no, the desktop plasmoid on the desktop that shows your desktop icons. [15:20] i use the default one that shows icons in .Dekstop [15:20] yes that one [15:20] cgoetz, you can set slackpkg to 13 [15:20] not use it very much [15:20] Lord_Khelben: yeah, mouseover a folder there once. :) [15:20] ah i don't have folders in desktop that why i didn't noticed it [15:20] i'll make one [15:20] ok I will install 13RC2 and come back to fine tune and discuss some topics ... [15:20] Lord_Khelben: make one and then put some stuff in it, then mouseover. [15:21] cgoetz, have fun [15:21] or wait some time and install 13 [15:21] I find plasmoid havy and uggly [15:21] demoncyber_ (n=marco@200.19.107.16) joined ##slackware. [15:21] which plasmoid ? there are many [15:21] ETA for 13? [15:21] loll will give it a try anyway [15:21] Nigromante: WHEN ITS GODDAMN READY [15:21] Nigromante: When it's ready. However, it's 13rc2 now, so getting closer. [15:21] Nigromante: when its ready (not much time though) [15:22] i used to hear that in Debian ..... [15:22] ok :-P [15:22] Nigromante: yes but debian takes 2 years :) [15:22] Action: slackytude rolls a D20 [15:22] Nigromante, 20 weeks [15:22] Action: init[1] waiting for fire|bird [15:22] slackytude: you need to add the bonuses too [15:22] Action: spook rolls 36 D6 [15:22] init[1]: hold on man, good grief. [15:22] WHEN ITS READY [15:22] my point of view is that desktop environments are only getting better look & feel but are not focusing on usability [15:23] Lord_Khelben, well, a 20 is fatal failure, in my rule book [15:23] cgoetz we live in a world of eye candy [15:23] they should be light, fast and simple to use [15:23] cgoetz: too many people with different opinions of what is best desktop [15:23] can't please everyone [15:23] cgoetz, those exist as well [15:23] have you seen mepis [15:23] cgoetz: xfce is light,fast,simple to use [15:23] windowmaker also,fluxbox etc [15:24] kde 3.x based simple, easy and fast to install - mepis 8 uses lenny deb packages [15:25] you people heard about MS and the Word XML thingy? [15:25] slackytude: yeah [15:25] the patent? [15:25] yeah [15:25] http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/08/court-gives-microsoft-60-days-to-stop-shipping-word.ars [15:25] MS not allowed to sell word in Texas \o/ [15:25] oh cool [15:25] xxjx, the US [15:25] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: "kill" [15:25] why [15:25] SM177Y (i=1000@24-231-141-227.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [15:25] back [15:25] spook, read [15:25] software patent [15:25] o, was it a texas judge? [15:25] thats why [15:25] wb eviljames :) [15:25] xxjx, yes [15:26] ah thats where i got it... [15:26] coicidentally there's also a sploit in libxml [15:26] it also brings into question OOXML standards, that are being used in OOo [15:26] buy now and cu later [15:26] well, they dont sell Word, they sell the whole MS Office. [15:26] Action: init[1] >>-(-_-)--> [15:26] cgoetz (n=cgoetz@d54C67CD9.access.telenet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] Nigromante, I dont thik that argument flies [15:26] :-P [15:27] im sorry but some of this patenet infringement crap is starting to get rediculous [15:27] they bundle and odn't allow separate puchases until they sue you in court for illegal licenses then they sue per product: word, excel, etc :) [15:27] DeiBellum, starting to? [15:27] lol my bad, it has been [15:27] shik4nt4z4: CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS=$CFLAGS -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=$CFLAGS -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DMAN_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/man -DSYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR=/etc -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib64 -DLIB_SUFFIX=64 . [15:27] shik4nt4z4: this is the command i used and it builds fine [15:27] thats easy to remeber [15:28] hahahah [15:28] but it doesn't honour anything of the lib64 stuff. it still installd in lib/ [15:28] init[1]: xfig works fine here. [15:28] only -O2? why not -O4 [15:28] Orion_ (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Action: DeiBellum is now waiting for Apple to get dinged for only supplying OSX with Safari [15:28] fire|bird: hope your are on current ? [15:28] init[1]: yeah [15:28] fire|bird: even dive had the same issue [15:28] Lord_Khelben: indeed, but you can override that with -DKICAD_PLUGINS=lib64/kicad/plugins [15:28] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] init[1]: Well, it works fine here, no crash. [15:29] fire|bird: did you try drawing smthing and [15:29] choose some menus [15:29] spook: i never took the time to read what do the -O optimizations do. i always use -O2 [15:29] init[1]: yeah [15:29] fire|bird: ok, thanks :( [15:29] Lord_Khelben, they do magic" [15:30] slackytude: i don't remember it. i use the same for everything :P [15:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] Lord_Khelben, as long as you dont do -O0 [15:30] go to /usr/src/linux and type: # make -j [15:30] That'll lock you up nice [15:30] O2 and more is pretty much the same [15:30] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Connection timed out [15:31] eviljames: good for toasting bread [15:31] I think camarade_tux tried that once [15:31] spook: I like having heatsink-shaped grill marks on my bread, so it works out perfectly. [15:32] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:32] generation C64 [15:32] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:32] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.181) joined ##slackware. [15:33] can anybody tell me how it would be able to let the monitor the logs in realtime in a virtual terminal? [15:33] *to monitor the logs [15:33] shpendk: tail [15:33] as in, tail -f /var/log/ ? [15:33] hmm let me tray [15:33] *try [15:33] that will let you watch your httpd get owned in real time. it's rad [15:34] or if you are using a command "dmesg | tail -f" [15:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [15:35] yeah but i want it to scroll when new logs come in? [15:35] it will... or it should [15:35] oh [15:35] dmesg|tail -f won't work i think [15:36] the tail -f part will work ok but dmesg is ran once so the output won't update [15:36] ah [15:36] shpendk:tail -f /var/log/messages [15:36] init[1], I'm compiling another version of xfig right now on current (slow box though). There have been some issues reported with the version in current to gentoo and debain bugs but no resolutions I can see. [15:36] that might explaing some things... [15:36] shpendk: It will sit still until there is something to report [15:37] seems like my pc ain't logging shit [15:37] there also programs that check the logs for iregularities and send email to the admin [15:37] well give it shit to log [15:37] cuz it sits still all the time [15:37] DeiBellum, like? [15:37] init[1], the error I got from gdb points at libxaw3d, but that hasen't been updated since 2003/4 ish. [15:37] run some bad logins [15:37] buh [15:37] hmm [15:37] how? [15:38] dive: how come this sudden behaviour from xfig ? [15:38] ctrl+F6, then try bad logins. [15:38] dive: is it because of new xlibs ? [15:38] then if you want to check hit ctrl-F7 and check the output from your tail [15:38] its a new version, marked as 'b' - doesn't sound like it would be stable imo [15:38] erm [15:39] init[1]: I do not see the crash you are having with xfig, here on my slackware64-current [15:39] ctrl-alt F6/F7 [15:39] where is F6? [15:39] :P [15:39] funkey [15:39] right from f5 [15:39] left from F7 [15:39] haha yeah [15:39] slackytude: *schweet* link about MS :-) [15:39] between 5 & 6 [15:39] macavity, ^-^ [15:39] i especially like to nice little picture [15:40] its just not reacting, maybe because im on my slackware through rdc? [15:40] alienBOB: no idea ,but when i try to do smthing with the menu like [edit] after a draw operation it crashes [15:40] it says it all [15:40] anyone know how to remove referrer information from firefox or if privoxy or squid can do it? [15:40] Well not here. I drew a few figures (rectangles, splines) and could save those several times [15:40] init[1]: Sounds like something more wrong with your box, and maybe dive's, something crashing it. It works fine here, it's still sitting on the desktop here with no issues clicking any menus, anything. [15:41] shpendk: If you're still not getting anything, try plugging/unplugging a usb device [15:41] acidchild theres a option in prefs or similar [15:41] acid, isn't that encoded in the url? [15:41] k wait [15:41] mmm no... sometimes i guess? [15:41] must be something out there that removes unwanted crap. my privoxy has cleaned stuff up great. [15:42] fire|bird: try drawing smthing on it and try [edit], or any other menu [15:42] i never would've thought making logs would be this hard lol [15:42] init[1]: I have done that already, a few times. :) [15:42] Action: init[1] what would be my problem :/ [15:42] fire|bird: ok, [15:42] shpendk, logs kind of make themselves [15:42] let me check the errors [15:42] init[1]: You're problems are beyond the scope of this channel. :P (j/k of course) [15:42] yeah, but obviously not when i need them :P [15:43] lol [15:43] acid: try changing etwork.http.sendRefererHeader to 0 [15:44] er, thats network... not etwork... [15:44] gdb gave me this Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [15:44] 0xb7ed4a46 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXaw3d.so.8 [15:44] mancha: ah mkay [15:44] cgoetz (n=cgoetz@d54C67CD9.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [15:44] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left ##slackware. [15:44] mancha: yah, that didn't work :P [15:45] back again [15:45] is any slackware 13 pre-release out that i don't know of? [15:45] are many packages already available to 13RC2 [15:46] shpendk, try "tail -f /var/log/secure" and try doing some bac logins [15:46] did you restarts firefox? [15:46] cgoetz, its a rc [15:46] shpendk: slackware.no does ISO snapshots of -current [15:46] yes indeed but what about packages [15:46] eviljames: I have installed wxGTK directly from source and now I get less errors: http://pastebin.com/d7c55387b [15:46] bad* logins [15:46] cgoetz, its pretty much complete at this point [15:46] ok [15:46] DeiBellum, i'm root on my system.. [15:46] installing 13RC2 right now [15:46] how do i do that besides the ctrl thing which does't work out [15:46] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] shpendk, so am I [15:47] *doesnt [15:47] lol [15:47] logged in as root? [15:47] yes [15:47] i thought thats not a good idea? [15:47] at least people say so [15:47] well this is a POS laptop that has nothing important on it [15:47] but if i remember well - last time i got an error of some service not starting - do you know about similar issues [15:47] I use this as a folding rig [15:47] aha [15:48] on my main rigs i do not use root [15:48] so basiclly its not good to be root ? [15:48] (notice the rhyme) [15:48] correct [15:48] btw it is ctrl+alt+F6 [15:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:48] mancha: ah neat, it got it to work :-) [15:49] http://www.thisisarecording.com/proxy_check/ [15:50] acid, for the sake of the channel's learning what did you do aside from my suggestion [15:50] dude... [15:50] mol (n=__mol__@cus18-221.hamilton.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] i almost didnt find the way back -.- [15:50] lol [15:50] mancha: oh, your suggestion worked, just needed to restart firefox. [15:50] trapped in the tty6? [15:50] =P [15:50] yeah [15:50] >_< [15:50] i'm doing firefox -> privoxy -> socks5 proxy via VPN Tunnel -> cisco router via gre [15:50] and then switched from tty1 [15:50] to tty7 [15:50] acid, i see. [15:50] til i found it again [15:50] i mean, this one [15:51] well it worked [15:51] indeed [15:51] alienBOB: how would I go about booting my lvm/crypt system with a messed up initrd with the install disk? I have two partitions, sda1 which is /boot, and sda2 which is the remaining /lvm [15:51] now you know how to switch consoles [15:51] works great, i can get the full speed of my cable connection at all times. dont even notice the hops. [15:51] :D [15:51] and i got my scrolling logs thingy [15:51] thank you DeiBellum and all the others [15:51] chopp: without fixing the initrd, I don't think there is a way to pass the unlock commands to the system from the cd [15:51] shpendk, no problem [15:52] just don't get lost :P [15:52] haha [15:52] I'm pretty sure you'll need to fix the initrd using the install disk [15:52] guys, what directories are normally inside /usr? [15:52] i'm gona get a sticker and put it on f7 and write on the sticker "home" [15:52] to not get lost [15:52] eviljames: Have you used a SlackBuild to install wxGTK? [15:52] demoncyber_ (n=marco@200.19.107.16) left irc: "Saindo" [15:53] NthDegree, X11@ X11R6.bak/ bin/ doc/ include/ lib/ local/ sbin/ spool@ tmp@ [15:53] X11R6/ adm@ dict/ i486-slackware-linux/ info/ libexec/ man/ share/ src/ [15:53] Thanks [15:53] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host34-238-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:53] at least in 12.1 [15:53] :/ I accidentally mv'd them inside lib64 :$ [15:53] NthDegree, you missing any directories? [15:53] i can lend you mine :P [15:54] chopp: you'll just need to do the chroot parts again in README_CRYPT and make sure lilo.conf and fstab have all the correct info [15:54] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:55] chopp: you'd use cryptsetup to open the crypt volume first, then mount it on /mnt and then chroot in to fix it [15:55] btw, i think slackware is the only distro left who has the /usr/adm -> /var/adm/ and /usr/tmp/ -> /var/tmp/ symlinks [15:55] antiwire: alright, I'm trying that now...thanks [15:55] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left ##slackware. [15:56] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-167.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [15:56] init[1]: is that the xfig of the most recent update in -current? Because I run the older version (not fully uptodate here) [15:56] macavity, which came first, /var/adm or /var/log, unix-wise? [15:57] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-177-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:58] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] lame q. I know, but I wonder what came first... [16:01] mol (n=__mol__@cus18-221.hamilton.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] so much for knowing which one came first [16:04] alienBOB: sorry for the delay,yes its is the latest one , and i'm on slackware-current, [16:04] mol: patience is a virtue [16:04] version xfig3.2.5b [16:04] macavity, he is gone [16:05] DeiBellum: i know :P [16:05] lol [16:06] but that aside, i *belive* that /var/adm is a BSD relic [16:06] and now i will go hoover some f00d.. and after that i think i will tell the GF what time is it ;-) [16:06] Action: macavity wanders off [16:07] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [16:07] antiwire, eviljames: OK. I solved my problem by installing wxGTK from source, not a SlackBuild. [16:07] oh lord [16:07] so a config flag or a path issue? [16:07] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [16:08] shik4nt4z4: in fact you have poluted your slackware,; [16:08] ;P [16:09] getting akonadi ... not registered with dbus on first login [16:10] antiwire: that was easy! I opened the encrypted partition with cryptsetup, created the device nodes with vgscan, activated the volumes with vgchange, added the partitions with setup, exited setup and chrooted /mnt, fixed the initrd, and back in business. :) thanks for the help [16:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:11] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [16:11] init[1]: Yes, I know. But it is not so bad considering the fact that Kicad install runs now. [16:12] init[1]: 78% [16:12] shik4nt4z4: :),well i wounldn't compromise to pollute my slackware not matter what :) [16:13] init[1]: What do you mean polute then? [16:13] compile from source [16:13] :-) [16:13] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-12-214-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] init[1], nah, slackware can take it [16:15] don't try it on Ubuntu though. that can't take it and was the reason I left it after 30min from installing it [16:16] slackytude: yes,it can,but it would be PITA to uninstall the stuff, and they residues the installed package leaves after unistall can't even ...imagine :/ [16:16] s/they/the/ [16:16] so what [16:17] init[1], yes, true. but it used to be the only way to install stuff before slackbuilds [16:17] slackytude: yes,but now its not the case :P [16:17] don't buy into the slackbuild or else proposition, if you like em use em, but configure/make/make install has worked for years [16:17] checkinstall was great during that time [16:18] mancha: but not every source pack comes with a uninstall script [16:18] so what [16:18] mancha: omg!,things go out of your hands [16:18] chopp: np i'm glad it worked [16:19] you can tee the install process to a logfile and there you go, a file list [16:19] DeeeeP (n=me@bl10-183-223.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:19] is slack 13RC2 using a different repository for slackpkg ? [16:20] mancha: aaa,yes mancha i'm talking about present case where we have slackbuilds to do the stuff [16:20] is there a way to just get the "make install" to echo to a text file a list of every file installed? [16:20] cgoetz: You set a mirror to use in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors. If you're using 13rc2, you need to choose a mirror under the current section in the mirrors file. [16:21] Pig_Pen: yes, and grep it for *install* string would give an uninstall log [16:21] yes but entries are for version 13.0 [16:21] where can i get slack 13rc2 ? [16:21] antiwire: I'll be making the initrd again with suspend to disk support, but apparently not with the script. I'll just add the -h /dev/crypt/swap to the normal mkinitrd command [16:21] cgoetz: yes, but you don't use those yet because 13 hasn't been released. [16:21] shpendk: use the scirpt [16:21] ??? [16:22] my pen smells like marsipan [16:22] ... [16:22] ok so i take a mirror from current [16:22] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] shpendk: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [16:22] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:22] shpendk: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ <---get and use the mirror-slackware-current.sh script. It will make a nice .iso file of current that you can burn to a disk. [16:23] fire|bird: you fail :P [16:23] how do I fail? [16:23] wow.. thnx guys [16:23] fire|bird: late bird [16:24] init[1]: yeah, but you just give him a link, I gave a link and told what it did. :) [16:24] therefore more typing. :) [16:24] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:24] fire|bird: ooh yea, ask if he doesn't know to run it with -h [16:24] s/ask/as/ [16:24] ;) [16:25] hey c'mon guys.. :) [16:25] you BOTH did a great job :D [16:25] shpendk: we fight like this way [16:25] :P [16:25] init[1]: Well, your first response was use the script and you didn't even tell him WHAT script. :) [16:25] haha [16:25] Action: fire|bird walks away. [16:25] round 2: [16:25] go go go ! [16:26] shpendk: round 2? I KO'd him. :P [16:26] init[1], you have been served [16:26] hahah [16:26] fire|bird: that is suspense , he was wondering what it was , [16:26] why not put that script in the topic. it seems like every hour or so someone asks about a -current iso... [16:26] Action: eviljames declares victory for fire|bird [16:26] \o/ [16:26] /0\ [16:26] hahaha i like that one, init[1] [16:26] lol [16:26] hello evil james. [16:26] just missed it [16:26] dd [16:26] hello acid child [16:27] luceroz: because not everyone should be running -current [16:27] init, don't get me wrong i think slackbuilds are a very nice way to compile & install source, but its not an "or else you're dead" proposition [16:27] everybody friends again? [16:27] erm whats going on? [16:27] evil james welcome. [16:27] what is that? /0\ goats.cx ? [16:27] Pig_Pen, O_o [16:27] dive: It's fight night, you didn't get the memo? :P [16:27] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] do I need to my opinion pole out? [16:28] dive: the lappy is still working today. :) [16:28] good job Ä [16:28] mancha: at times there are situations where switches for optimum use of certain packages are beyond the domain of knowlege,so those scripts help a lot,IMHO [16:28] but that means bad mobo :wack: [16:28] fire|bird: next time it craps out just take it out back and put some bullet holes in it [16:29] Pig_Pen, that's your solution to everything though. (would be fun though) [16:29] Thank goodness a different mobo fixed it, otherwise I wouldn't have known what to do next. :P And, I've discovered, the light that comes on with the power adapter is ONLY for charging, so when it goes out, it's finished charging. :) [16:29] init, yes they do, the flip side of that is you delegate away the knowledge, so if you're ok with that then yes. manually compiling forces you to at least know enough to get things compiling. [16:29] Pig_Pen: nah, if it acts up again, I'll just get more parts, it's fun taking it apart. :) [16:29] 'sure I can fix it, caaalick, bang!' [16:30] init, take this wxGTK example from a few minutes ago, it is clearly a compile flag or what is more likely a path issue, wchich i would have been curious to resolve myself. [16:30] dive: AHHH, my foot. You missed you insensitive clod. Ä [16:30] lol [16:31] Action: fire|bird heads for the doctors office. [16:31] fire|bird, give me smiley back please :| [16:31] whats that symbol? i can't see it. [16:31] mancha: yes, you are talking about slacker attitude ,but not always we have time to do it our self,at times we need quick way to fix an issue, [16:31] Action: fire|bird goes back and picks up his big toe. [16:31] agentc0re|work: Ä [16:31] agentc0re|work, it's a tsu - like a curved diagonal with a slanted " so it looks like a smiley [16:31] utf8 dontcha know [16:32] windows doesn't have that. [16:32] agentc0re|work: haha, or is it just not set in pidgin? :P [16:32] well urxvt + a decent font does [16:32] error_de2eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:32] init[1] i agree entirely with that. i just get nervous when people say that if you don't use slackbuilds the earth'll spin the other direction :> [16:32] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-238-70.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] agentc0re|work, using pidgin? [16:32] fire|bird: could be both.. [16:32] dive: pidgin in windows. [16:33] maybe need set a font with a larger character set [16:33] maybe. [16:33] mancha: hmm,:), [16:34] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:34] just use a bigger hammer [16:34] init[1]: after full upgrade to slackware64-current I also have a non-working xfig... [16:34] that's the ultimate sollution [16:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:34] I already notified Pat [16:34] antiwire: lvextend, and lvcreate snapshot are also very cool [16:35] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] alienBOB: \o/,my bug report was correct :) [16:36] two suggestions, has pat considered a) adding in rss for the security news and b) what about a bugzilla? [16:36] alienBOB, yeah I'm trying out some different versions of xfig at the moment. The version from 12.2 works but I'm trying some later ones to see how recent I can get. [16:36] Action: eviljames subscribes to the mailing list [16:36] evil as do i, but having it pop up on the browser is so much easier sometimes [16:37] mancha: http://dev.slackware.it/rss/slackware-security.xml [16:37] actually, i don't think i'm on the list anymore i now just have a bookmark to the current year's advisories [16:38] chopp, thanks but i would want a non-filtered rss, straight from the lion's den [16:38] Action: init[1] pokes fire|bird , how come fire|bird run it all without troubles [16:38] cyb3r3li0g (n=eguzman@fwabq.cvimellesgriot.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:38] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-127.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:38] init[1], you are kidding? [16:39] dive: no he said xfig was working fine with current [16:39] He's had mobo to contend with. [16:39] ah [16:39] 2B || !2B [16:39] let's just put him in the corner and ignore him. [16:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [16:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Nigromante: I believe in quantum mechanics, therefore 2B && !2B [16:40] fire|bird: send me that utf8 char again. [16:40] the rss would not take much time to put together. the bugzilla would be a change in work model which pat might not like. [16:40] fire|bird: is my hero, dive ;) [16:40] Ä [16:40] dive: gah.. still can't view it. [16:40] free(eviljames); [16:40] doh! [16:40] changed it to times roman new. [16:40] try liberation? [16:40] agentc0re|work: you are not utf8 enabled. You fail. :) [16:40] dive: yes irssi can't figure out that [16:40] or dejavu [16:41] Isn't that a japanese character? [16:41] fire|bird: are you sure xfig is working fine ? [16:41] init[1], I'm using irssi [16:41] init[1]: yeah [16:41] fire|bird: there seems to be some problem [16:41] init[1]: that character works just fine in irssi, you need a different font. [16:41] and utf has to be enabled [16:41] fire|bird: i mean xfig thigie [16:41] Hey I stole it first. All comments to be addressed to me (which I will ignore) [16:41] init[1]: I KNOW. :D [16:42] dive: lol [16:42] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [16:42] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] wb agentc0re|work [16:42] throw me some utf8 [16:42] Ä [16:42] 'a [16:42] SCORE! [16:42] erm nope [16:42] \o/ [16:42] fire|bird: not for me :/ [16:42] éèàá [16:43] :O [16:43] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) joined ##slackware. [16:43] dive: not yet [16:43] those vowels have a cowlick [16:43] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] agentc0re|work: £ ¥   ¬ [16:43] i got the first two.. last 3 are boxes.. [16:43] ˆ [16:44] £ ¥   ¬ [16:44] snowflake! [16:44] éèàá [16:44] cheat! [16:44] Pig_Pen: what does it show for you? [16:44] i don't have a snow flake. [16:44] well at least it's more than what i had before. [16:44] ‰ [16:44] agentc0re|work: it's not winter time? :P [16:44] put some utf stuff pls [16:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-12-214-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:45] •–— ¢£ž [16:45] £ ¥   ¬ [16:45] omg! [16:45] what they said [16:45] Er E| [16:45] Er E [16:45] it soes ee and aa with the little thingy sticking up on the top like a cowlick on a kids head [16:45] Er and E|, that isn't utf [16:45] Action: init[1] put utf thingie to bottom priority [16:46] ˜™ ¡›™˜ [16:46] any way i socialize with english [16:46] why bother this utf8 :/ [16:46] +1 [16:46] weird so alt+###'S will do unicode in anything but pidgin for me... [16:47] ~~oO0Oo~~ [16:47] LordAnta (n=wacky@Pc-3235.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) joined ##slackware. [16:47] BDó[z| [16:47] Nigromante: that is like p^2pP^2... [16:47] we should all talk in webdings [16:47] no idea [16:47] Nigromante: is that what you meant ? [16:47] not at all [16:48] anyway for me its easy to type this character: ñ [16:48] http://pastebin.com/m264e0422 [16:48] Nigromante: that was an *A followed by a block* [16:48] kinda brick thing [16:48] Pig_Pen: lol [16:48] xfig is being a pain [16:49] Pig_Pen, Killroy was here! [16:49] RUN! [16:49] FOREST! [16:49] DeiBellum: isn't killroy a virus ? [16:49] FORREST [16:49] sorry [16:49] init[1], not sure, I know it originated in WW2 to show where the Allies were [16:49] http://pastebin.com/m1246a32e [16:50] DeiBellum: hm. [16:50] init[1], hm? [16:50] dive: are you preparing smthign in xfig? [16:50] init[1], ?mh [16:50] init[1], I'm compiling a few different versions to find the latest one that will work [16:51] d-.-b [16:51] DeiBellum: i have read about killroy in Mark Ludwin,"Black book of computer virus" ,just ask about that [16:51] init[1], aha [16:51] init[1], never knew about that, all i knew was that the picure originatd in WWII [16:51] do you have Giant Black Book? [16:51] init[1], problem is patches aren't working out too well so I tried making one which isn't working too well at the moment [16:52] dive: what about the one in 12.2? [16:52] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] init[1], works [16:52] init[1], I'm compiling 3.2.5 right now [16:52] (slow box) [16:52] h [16:52] you mean in current ,after recompile it works ? [16:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lol it's ctrl+alt+shift+u [16:52] ok, my shift is over, Have a good one everyone [16:52] init[1], yes [16:53] DeiBellum (n=root@65.166.76.68) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" [16:53] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [16:53] what about suspendon slack 13RC2 [16:53] dive: ok,i think it would be better to wait for a fix from current, [16:53] suspendon? [16:53] suspend lol [16:53] on [16:53] init[1], that's what I'm working on [16:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] dive: wow, :D [16:53] i used uwsusp on 12 [16:54] for suspend to disk? [16:54] y [16:54] cgoetz, not tried suspend but hibernate seems to work as expected [16:54] Action: init[1] ok slackers time to sleep ,2:30am here, [16:54] where are you [16:54] ok any config to setup on 13rc2 [16:54] Nigromante: you mean me? [16:54] i never know which is which, suspend/hibernate :> [16:54] yes [16:54] Nigromante: asia, [16:55] ah ok [16:55] /etc/suspend.conf ? [16:55] mancha, suspend = RAM, hibernate = disk [16:55] dive, i know i always have to look it up then i forget it again [16:55] Action: init[1] quits,pls don't talk to my bouncer :D [16:55] cgoetz, I just echo disk > /sys/power/state [16:55] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:55] hibernate i like it says for long time > so to disk :-) [16:55] chacal (n=Chacal@189.2.39.2) joined ##slackware. [16:55] cgoetz, I have fn+Fn keys do things like that [16:56] hello people! [16:56] where? [16:56] hello chacal [16:56] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:56] goint to try that but is swap device configured in lilo or somewhere else ? [16:56] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:57] the resume parameter must be in lilo (or bootloader of choice) [16:57] i'm from Brazil, sorry , my english is bad [16:57] nice to meet you people [16:57] ok nice to meet you human [16:57] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] :) [16:58] say your swap is /dev/hda1 then "resume=/dev/hda1" s what you need to pass the colonel [16:58] swap is like wasp with a swapped s [16:59] ok it seems to be unchanged [17:00] chacal (n=Chacal@189.2.39.2) left irc: Client Quit [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-172.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] IRCChat (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [17:02] whoz the dork who hated software patents? [17:03] whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo CARES? [17:03] he wen that way <- ^ -> [17:03] 'A Judge on Tuesday ordered Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) to stop selling its popular Word document creation application in the United States in 60 days, after finding that the software contains technology that violates a patent held by a third party. ' [17:03] because, as you can see; it goes BOTH WAYS :) [17:04] ped- (n=xLag@189-55-114-110-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:05] MS makes violator software then [17:05] alienBOB, not a great deal of luck with xfig. The only version I can find that doesn't segfault is 3.2.4 (slack 12.2 version). I've tried 3.2.5 and that segs as well. [17:05] Anybody tried the new Palm Pre? [17:05] dude if you think about it, ms is about to lose like $3b [17:05] in sales [17:05] if ANYBODY had a reason to hate software patents, it would be THEM [17:05] but they still dont [17:05] so that must mean something. [17:05] big whoop, they are one of the most profitable companies on earth. [17:06] the only way to become profitable is to work for every cent. [17:06] and not being honest [17:06] pfft [17:06] wtf is honesty? [17:06] [blurp] [17:06] alienBOB, according to gdb it's connected with libxaw3d but that hasn't been worked on for years. Gentoo and Debian have had similar bugs reported but I couldn't find any resolution. [17:07] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora" [17:07] my internet is not configured, it would configure. someone? i use PPP when i type in console ping . appears the message "NETWORK IS UNREACHABLE". what should I do? I already typed pppoe-setup [17:08] why can you write here, then? [17:08] More than one pc, obviously. [17:09] it seems he uses modem? [17:10] ped-, have you tried the other ppp commands like pppoe-connect etc? [17:10] yeah [17:10] pppoe-start and pppoe-connect [17:11] dive, do you have the xfig source? [17:11] care to test out something with me? [17:11] mancha, yes [17:11] sure [17:11] ped-, first u need your hardware modem detected by kernel [17:11] which version mancha ? [17:11] open up w_util.h [17:11] the latest (ie nonworking) one you have [17:11] DeeeeP ifconfig find eth0. network card! [17:12] ped-, what happens with pppoe-setup? [17:12] ethernet network card ? [17:12] mancha, ok [17:12] slackytude configured but still not connected! [17:13] ped-, you did pppoe-start? [17:13] dive never mind, my test didn't work. what is the error again? [17:13] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:13] what firewall software for 13RC2 ? [17:13] slackytude yeah [17:13] was doing " . . . . . . . " [17:14] mancha, just segfaults when you touch any menu, and gcb points to libxaw3d [17:14] s/gcb/gdb [17:14] ped-, thats bad [17:14] ped-, you could try pppoe-discovery [17:14] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.93.181) left irc: "Leaving." [17:14] dive try the latest xfig alpha [17:15] mancha, ok [17:15] slackytude what that is? [17:15] ped-, might be anything, from your modem being ATM. or wrongly connected to hardware [17:15] ped-, will try to discover the modem [17:15] dive: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mcj/xfig.3.2.5b.full.tar.gz [17:15] is that what you've used? [17:16] ped-, or, pppoe-sniff, if you have a win machine that can connect to the modem, pppoe-sniff will read the info out [17:16] mancha, that's the -current version. So yes tried but failed. Also tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.4. [17:16] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [17:16] ped-, also, dmesg and syslog should have info about whats happening [17:16] ped-, Im sorry, but I gotta go [17:16] there is a 3.2.5a though [17:16] Uvix (n=Uvix@adsl-145-171-117.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] slackytude thanks [17:17] terrapin (n=unknown@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: "leaving" [17:17] Action: slackytude waves [17:17] gnight ##slackware [17:17] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:17] try a5 [17:17] what firewall mgmt interface to use with slackware 13RC2 ? [17:17] gnight slackytude [17:17] ilyas2 (n=ilyas2@adsl-97-87-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Does anyone know whether I need to get special type USB flash drives to work with Linux (Slackware in this case)? [17:18] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77556.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Out Of Cheese Error. Reboot Universe" [17:19] DeeeeP (n=me@bl10-183-223.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] Uvix: I've never had to once get something "special" [17:19] Its detected every usb device I've connected just fine [17:19] linstick [17:19] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [17:19] Action: wintery hides [17:20] Uvix: do a lsusb, then plug in your device and wait a few seconds then do another lsusb. see a difference? [17:20] Dominian, Thanks, do I have to do anything special to have Slackware bootdisk bootable on the USB flash drive? [17:21] agentc0re|work, I don't own a USB drive. I was merely asking a question. I'm sort of a USB virgin here. :) [17:22] Uvix: Oh. [17:22] Hmm... although, can somebody tell me how I can find out whether my USB connection is high speed (2.0) or 1.1? [17:22] Uvix: is your goal to be able to boot slackware from it? [17:22] Uvix: manual? [17:22] lsusb [17:23] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [17:23] agentc0re|work, Yes, since I found it I can't have a bootable kernel off of my floppy anymore. [17:24] mancha, 5a errors out [17:24] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:24] error: array type has incomplete element type [17:25] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] So... perhaps 3.2.4 is the way to go/stick to. [17:25] Uvix: you found a usb drive now? i thought you just said you didn't own one. I'm not really understanding you. [17:25] LordAnta (n=wacky@Pc-3235.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] agentc0re|work, I think he wants to know whether his usb socket is usb 1 or 2 [17:26] well bus I should say I guess [17:27] lsusb ... [17:27] yep [17:27] Nigromante, Thank you. [17:27] np [17:28] I have 1.1. I suppose I have to get a bridge 1.1 -> 2.0 for this old machine. [17:28] when usb 3 comes out hispeed will be deprecated in favour of superduperspeed [17:28] or pci usb 2 card [17:28] don't usb2 drives work on usb1? [17:28] Uvix, most usb devices should work with usb 1 still [17:28] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) left irc: Client Quit [17:29] but a lot slower [17:29] sure, thats not fixed with a birdge though :) [17:29] dive, Is there a clarion "sign" that guarantees the conversion? :) [17:29] they backwards compatible [17:29] no idea [17:29] are [17:30] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) joined ##slackware. [17:30] dive: megaspeed! [17:30] 1.1 device to 2.0 hub, opposite not sure [17:30] I see. But I probably need to get a PCI USB 2 card as it was suggested anyway. [17:30] whats the latest for slack ? [17:30] 12.1 ? [17:30] 12.2 [17:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-141-176.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] 13.0rc2 [17:31] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] Nigromante, you right the first time. Most usb 2 devices are backwards compatible [17:31] is there anything like a bleeding edge ... slack version ? [17:31] dive: he left. :) [17:31] Agiofws: -current (aka 13.0rc2) [17:31] Agiofws: also a 64 bit available. [17:31] fire|bird, he left while I was typing to him?? The height of rudeness! [17:32] dive: indeed. How rude. [17:32] (and you say fail I will summon the warlocks to kill your laptop ;) [17:32] Oh Noes [17:32] wow, looking through xfig's changelogs (you got me interested), it seems like segfault is the most common word in the list [17:32] s/laptop/windows/ :D [17:32] this dev clearly has issues [17:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:33] Out of curiosity, has anyone bench-marked 64-bit with 32-bit slack? [17:33] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-87-206.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Uvix, bench-marked what? [17:36] (the sound of 272 users quietly smoldering? [17:37] Uvix: I don't think that 'benchmark' is a useful term in this case. [17:37] A webserver like Apache. [17:38] wouldn't matter how much faster it is, i'm a home user, and i need Skype right now. the 32bit libs did not work on my system to adapt 64bit to it, and slackware64 does not include them stock, so it's not worth my time. i just dual boot between the two. [17:38] slackware64 + slamd64's compat32 libraries DOES work for that, TwinReverb [17:38] I don't think that really makes much difference with a webserver(?) [17:38] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: "I bid you farewell, Gentlemen." [17:38] TwinReverb: At least, my tests confirmed it does. [17:39] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:39] hello , impossible block ddos attacks ? (port flood) [17:40] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] Techtronic, yes if you know iptables/netfilter [17:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] hmm [17:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:41] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] eviljames, that's what they said until it didn't work for me. oh well, all i'm saying is that it doesn't come stock [17:43] but then skype isn't stock is it? [17:43] regardless... [17:44] TwinReverb: Indeed, but slackware64 (imho, at least) should be pure 64, compat32 libraries are an add-on. [17:45] What percentage of Slackware 32-bit applications has been ported to Slack64? [17:45] in light of how ready linux is for 64 bit (sarcasm intended), i would think 32bit should be included [17:45] er, i should say, how ready other companies are for linux to be 64 bit [17:46] ilyas2 (n=ilyas2@adsl-97-87-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] Skype is my only problem right now. openoffice has 64bit which is a blessing. [17:46] uxi100 [17:46] err [17:46] or perhaps (imo anyway) it should be the software devs who have developed 64 bit by now (not like it sprung out overnight) [17:46] Uvix: 100 [17:46] the thing i like about 64bit so far is that it seems to have less of the legacy garbage that 32bit does (key word: seems) [17:46] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-164-209-182.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] right now k3b is garbage any way i look at it [17:47] what? [17:47] K3B is perfect, or at least has been for my purposes. [17:47] but that's more of a 4.x migration issue [17:47] TwinReverb, All I have to say is just wait. :) [17:47] ok then, fair enough, maybe it's just my machine due to not being able to burn dvd+rws right now [17:47] TwinReverb, make sure all bugs hit the devs. [17:48] dive, so far it's based i think mainly on my burner so i'm waiting [17:48] Indeed, if you are unable to burn with k3b I'd consider that a showstopper. [17:48] yes but growisofs also does not work [17:48] it's my burner i am afraid [17:48] i got no help from LQ but that's due to my hardware, not their lack of willingness or expertise [17:49] TwinReverb, and don't forget k3b is just a frontend for cdrecord, dvd+rw-tools etc [17:49] yeah that's why i backed off on my statement [17:50] TwinReverb, try to use the command line tools themselves and see what happens [17:50] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:50] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "\o\ /o/ \o/" [17:51] dive, i did, they all failed [17:51] wunsh (n=wunsh@92.229.50.151) joined ##slackware. [17:52] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dvdrw-burning-failures-13.0-rc2-746827/ [17:52] well that's where the problem lies [17:52] exactly [17:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:52] but i have no clue why since i was burning dvds just fine in 12.2 [17:52] it's totally stumped me lol [17:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) left irc: [17:54] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] dive: care to share your suspendlock script that lid.sh calls? :) [17:55] chopp, sure one sec [17:56] chopp, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/T42-acpi/ [17:56] there are a few in there but work on T42 don't know about others [17:56] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:56] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] dive: but doesn't the lid.sh script call another? [17:57] chopp, that is true - better upload that too :) [17:57] dive: haha, awsome thank you :) [17:58] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:00] chopp, ok suspendlock is uploaded. [18:00] thank you [18:01] I used xscreensaver to lock rather than xlock because most of the time xlock would unlock with no pass for some reson [18:02] i just log out and boobytrap my PC with claymores [18:02] Pig_Pen, why am I not surprised? [18:03] chopp, I took out some lines: fetchmail -q (before) and fetchmail (after) so improvise around that [18:03] ok [18:03] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:04] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:05] Action: TwinReverb is going to burn a dvd-r dl of slackware64-current and slackware-current just for the heck of testing [18:06] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [18:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:09] Monster Quest has to be the stupidest show on the History channel, cryptozoology can only be stretched so far before it gets neurotic [18:11] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [18:12] who said it wasn't neurotic already? lol [18:12] inf3rnal (i=inf3rnal@CPE00e04d6be94d-CM001371b70dc2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] wtf is cryptozoology ? [18:12] fzza3a (n=fzza3a@41.99.87.142) joined ##slackware. [18:13] LOL [18:13] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:13] well, you see what had happened was... [18:13] bigfoot, other animals that are not prooven fact [18:13] big foot is real ffs [18:13] ;x [18:13] loch ness [18:13] lol [18:13] chopacabra [18:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology [18:13] inf3rnal (i=inf3rnal@CPE00e04d6be94d-CM001371b70dc2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [18:13] man [18:14] a pseudoscience [18:14] here is the simple, daring, strange, unbelievable fact: we havent discoverred all animals on this planet yet [18:14] here's a fact, bigfoot at my doritos [18:15] there is one fish thought to be extinct that is still alive, but before it was discovered to be alive there were fossils the coelacanth [18:15] hehe yeh [18:15] *ate my doritos [18:15] lol [18:15] and that was discoverred here in my hope town ;p [18:15] that coelacant that they got was pregnant too, there were tons of tiny ones [18:15] if there really is a bigfoot why arent there any bones or any other evidence of it ? [18:16] there's a few movies [18:16] because they eat their own [18:16] what more do you want? [18:16] lol [18:16] just one fuzzy video for a few seconds [18:16] bye [18:16] cgoetz (n=cgoetz@d54C67CD9.access.telenet.be) left irc: "Quitte" [18:16] that is 40 years old [18:16] lol [18:16] where is it? lemme see [18:17] you know what, this cryptozoology thing has potential to get quite big. everywhere in the world has some legendary animal [18:17] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:17] we just know of the famous ones [18:17] lol [18:17] in johannesburg we got cockroaches as big as prawns [18:17] and they kiss [18:18] its not cryptozoology tho becoz they are all over the place [18:18] hackeron (n=hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Success [18:19] indeed [18:19] i mean hiss, not kiss [18:19] yeh necos lets go find big foot [18:19] Action: yesyes is disappointed [18:19] kissing cockroaches, thats scary [18:20] Action: yesyes was visualising cockroaches kissing each other [18:20] cute [18:20] i meant HISS [18:20] :/ [18:21] yeah we know, you like to kiss cockroaches ;p [18:21] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:21] grr [18:21] just kidding, cockroaches hiss here too [18:21] when i was in angola [18:22] i saw this massive fucking cockroach [18:22] it had these thick legs, they were like 6cm thick [18:22] i mean 6mm [18:22] did you lasso it and put a saddle on it and ride it like a horse? [18:22] and these huge ass eyes, like flies-eyes [18:22] that thing freaked me out man [18:22] no i watched it, to see if its gunna bite me. [18:22] let's talk about bunnies [18:22] and rainbows [18:22] and candyfloss [18:23] i would have stepped on it, squashed it [18:23] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-164-209-182.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] there are very few bugs i wont step on, i hate most bugs [18:24] TwinReverb went away? I have Skype running on my slackware64-current. Using the multilib package set I created [18:25] yeah, he left. [18:25] i do catch grasshoppers in the yard and bring em inside for my cat to play with, she sometimes eats them [18:25] boo [18:26] cool [18:26] i want a cat [18:26] boo for skype? or boo for me letting my cat play with and eat grasshoppers? [18:26] that was a scrollback fail, but in light of Pig_Pen's comment I think it fits [18:26] :s [18:27] my cat gets board and needs a toy to play with, what better toy than a grasshopper, plus they are a good source of protein for my cat [18:27] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:27] alienBOB, he won't believe it [18:27] alienBOB: skype has worked great on my 64bit box with fred's multilibs. Are your's packages available yet? [18:28] WHAT THE FUCK IS BIGFOOT? you americans must be damn bored man! [18:28] IRCChat, it's the common version of a Yeti [18:28] Dinde693 (i=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:28] cool. the centos man's gone awol. [18:28] bigfoot is a man/ape looking thing that lives in the deep forests [18:28] :s [18:28] oh for gawd's sake [18:28] yarvin (n=yarvin@22-36-237-24.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] the centos guy is probaby eloping with bigfoot [18:29] Dinde693 (i=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) left ##slackware. [18:29] yeh [18:29] chopp: my packages will go online the day Slackware 13.0 is released [18:29] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [18:29] if the correlation between foot size and penis size is true, the centos guy must be well pleased. [18:29] alienBOB: ok thanks [18:30] are we ever going to get a net install? [18:30] Basically you get to re-use a lot of the 32bit Slackware. I only have glibc and gcc multilib packages, and a few scritps that crunch through the 32bit package tree and create 60 megs of "compat32" packages for you [18:30] lol [18:30] oh it's sorted. i was hoping for another hans reiser type thing [18:30] but without so much death [18:31] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:31] what? [18:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser [18:31] IRCChat: net install? [18:31] i want to see a Las Vegas style marriage with Elvis Presley doing a marriage between CentOS lead developer and bigfoot [18:32] yeah I know who he is. Just wondering what you making similarities with. [18:32] I wants don't get. [18:32] '$70 zombie movie hits big screen' [18:32] dude [18:32] that slike nollywood shit [18:32] even if you sell three tickets you make a profit :s [18:32] oh, i was probably having a conversation with myself again. [18:32] either that or I'm drunk. [18:32] oh wait.... [18:32] i'm going for both! [18:33] lol [18:33] good call [18:33] Pig_Pen, evolution & orc_orc? :P [18:34] they would make some odd looking kids, probably grow up to do Geico TV commercials [18:34] IRCChat: are you trying to hide that you are in fact KidneyBeans? You do have a mark or two on my troll list [18:34] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [18:34] i am kidneybeans [18:35] my irc client just keeps screwing up my nicknames [18:35] IRCChat (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left ##slackware. [18:35] i see [18:35] mention beans and trolls leave? [18:35] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [18:35] back [18:36] sigh [18:36] alienBOB you're fullashit [18:36] im not a troll [18:36] dive: nope, guess not. But may soon be gone anyway. :) [18:36] dont feel bad, i bet i am on that list too, just because i am a joker and not really much of a troll at all [18:36] fire|bird, dynamic.isadsl [18:36] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] KidneyBeans: dont jump from the pan in to the fire [18:37] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-164-209-182.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] not a great idea [18:37] alienBOB: Don't your packages & fred's compat32 packages constitute a duplication of effort? [18:38] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [18:38] alienBOB: Or are they dissimilar enough that both have a place/use in the world? [18:38] if so they should pool their resources and knowledge [18:39] unless there are differing methods which cause conflict [18:39] eviljames: I don't care [18:39] There is a difference between the two sets, everyone gets to decide what they want to use [18:39] There's occasionally duplication of effort amongst the team, and we don't fight about which is best. :) [18:40] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [18:40] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] fzza3a (n=fzza3a@41.99.87.142) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:42] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [18:42] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] fzza3a (n=fzza3a@41.99.119.216) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.51) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:43] fzza3a> hey , I need a logo for slackware 13 like this : https://fedoraproject.org/static/images/banners/f11release.png , plzz help me [18:43] anyone got hibernation working in slack? i really should turn this laptop off every so often... [18:43] tomekh (n=user@ebl170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:44] yesyes, !! [18:44] Hydr0p0nX (n=hydr@68.113.115.239) joined ##slackware. [18:44] fzza3a, !! [18:44] yesyes, yes [18:45] dive: what do you use? [18:45] Hibernation works like a breeze [18:45] Action: NthDegree dances :D [18:45] yesyes, I have a script that is run when I press Fn+F12 [18:45] I got cinelerra to start compiling! Yay! :D [18:45] (fscking dependencies!) [18:46] Action: yesyes searches the web a bit [18:46] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:46] so can't help me : ( , I love slackware vey mach [18:46] yesyes, my scripts are mostly here: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/T42-acpi/ [18:46] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [18:47] thanks! [18:49] yesyes, I should probably upload my hibernate script :P [18:49] one sec [18:49] dive: nono :P [18:51] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-204-157-244.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] agentc0re|work is now known as nono [18:51] :D [18:52] yesyes, done [18:52] heh, thanks. i was wondering about that... [18:52] althought there isn't much of it [18:53] I have lines for stopping fecthmail, turning on light, setting time etc. Once they are taken out there isn't mjuch left. [18:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [18:56] I laid in bed for 4 hours before I fell asleep last night. this is getting bad [18:57] hays_ (n=hays@unaffiliated/hays) joined ##slackware. [18:57] i probably got 3 hours of actual sleep [18:57] ilyas2 (n=ilyas2@adsl-185-85-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [18:57] How would I go about setting up authenticated QOS for a network of about 350 users? I want to have different users with different priority and bandwidth rate limits. [18:59] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [18:59] hays_: probably using RADIUS [18:59] it would be like a captive portal/proxy/radius setup [18:59] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-164-209-182.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] antiwire: try http://lifehacker.com/5328706/reset-your-sleep-cycle-with-a-16+hour-fast i did it this week. seems to have worked. [19:01] antiwire: when i cant get to sleep right away i get up and turn on something boring on the radio, i keep the volume down low so it does not disturb the wife and sometimes that helps [19:02] listening to the news with the volume down low helps me get to sleep [19:03] I think I'll need to just force myself up through a whole night/day cycle and then crash around 930pm the next day [19:04] -makes farts- [19:04] i wonder if a woman has ever used linux. [19:05] no, that is just a myth, women dont use linux [19:05] i bet i can get a picture of that before you can get a picture of bigfoot [19:05] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] maybe bigfoot uses linux and he goes by the name Richard Stallman [19:06] lol [19:06] lol [19:08] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-177-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] i heard he's the loch ness monster [19:08] He morphs, duh. :P [19:09] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Pig_Pen: put a photo of each side by side, I bet there'd be a lot of resemblance. [19:09] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [19:10] when is microsoft gunna get drm to work? [19:11] big & hairy, you bet [19:13] steve baldie is doing ms a lot of shame lately. [19:14] Hydroponx (n=hydr@68.113.115.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:14] microsoft just got sued to not allow ms-word to do xml documents [19:15] i know! lol! and they LOST! [19:15] hhaha [19:15] Hey I've asked this question in here once before, but still haven't found much info about it and its driving me nuts. Has anyone else had problems with their x server randomly crashing? [19:15] i knew software patents would come back to bite them on the ass [19:15] PHREAK: YES EVERYBODY HAS YOU IDIOT. [19:15] :/ [19:16] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-177-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:16] x works fine here [19:16] KidneyBeans: less caps [19:16] phreak, no problems here [19:16] what window manager and what video driver phreak>? several things can cause that [19:16] sorreh i quit smoking a couple of days ago, im finding myself rather expressive lately. [19:16] phreak: nope; tried checking the logs after a crash? [19:17] phreak: what video card? [19:17] hmm, this thing still on? [19:17] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [19:18] the card is an intel 945GM and im using the i810 drivers [19:19] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Reconnecting" [19:19] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] phreak: on 12.2+, you should be using -intel [19:19] i have compiz running, i dont care about the effects, but i use AWN and it doesnt seem to run without copmiz running [19:19] KidneyBeans: restrain yourself please [19:19] phreak: awn should onlyu need compositing, not compiz [19:19] Next time you call someone an idiot, I will call the big iron [19:20] ah, after a bit of mkinitrd and lilo stuff, hibernates works perfectly. thanks rworkman. [19:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [19:22] (i used pm-hibernate in the end, dive. thanks for your script though. i want to know how it works under the hood) [19:22] (and so your script will help) [19:22] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [19:23] I'm hungry. Who is going to deliver food to me? [19:23] God will provide. [19:23] pizza-hut [19:23] Or pizza-hut, yes. [19:23] So... what you're saying is that pizza hut=god ? [19:23] pretty much. [19:24] Pizza Hut is suppose to become "The Hut" [19:24] hahaha the hut? [19:24] just like radio shack, "The Shack" [19:24] "Dude, let's go grab a slice of Jabba!" [19:24] sorry, time to hibernate. i'll leave the difficulty in telling the two apart to your good self. [19:24] I heard that radio shack is going to become the shack. It made me sad, years ago I was a store manager for them. [19:24] Back when they still sold resistors & capacitors. [19:25] thrice, so can the crashes be caused by either compiz or could it be because of the driver? [19:25] and when people who came to radio shack had any idea what they were for. [19:25] phreak: it could easily be both, one or the other. Nailing it down precisely is the tough part :D [19:25] phreak: it could be either. [19:25] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [19:26] I'd definitely switch to -intel for the driver, as that is harmless and easy to do [19:26] im leaving slackware what do distro do you guys recommend for an ex slackware user :P [19:26] thrice`: awn won't work in (for example) kde3.5 iirc. On grounds that the wm isn't compositing aware [19:26] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:26] deco: Windows Vista [19:26] I could easily be wrong about that, plz correct me if that is the case. [19:26] nsp: good call, I hear that's the OS of choice these days. [19:26] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:26] is the -intel dirver supposed to be in the list when configuring xorg.conf? [19:26] eviljames: really? I could have *sworn* I've used xfce's compositing just fine to satisfy it [19:26] eviljames: Oh yes... [19:27] slack netinst howto http://pastebin.ca/1527262 [19:27] thrice`: xfce has compositing, kde <=3.5 iirc does not. When I used kde3 I would use the emerald window manager instead of kwin [19:27] that or you might have used xfce+emerald [19:27] I don't use xfce, and shouldn't have said it has compositing as I don't actually know that :D [19:28] It does. [19:28] nope, definitely not :) it just needs some compositing [19:28] so, compiz is not his only choice, is my point. [19:29] yeah, he should just upgrade to -current and use kde4. a better solution all around! :D [19:29] psh, kde4 on -current is dated [19:29] phreak: in which list? [19:30] rworkman: where are those kde4.3 packages that EVERYONE has been demanding of you, and that you promised 6 weeks ago? [19:30] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:30] I don't recall anyone demanding them, and it won't matter anyway :) [19:30] eviljames, I used xorgconfig to configure xorg.conf and it asks if i'd like to view the lists of drivers for my graphics card. Thats where i chose the i810 drivers. [19:31] ahhh [19:31] phreak: are you on 12.2 or -current? [19:31] eviljames, i'm on 12.2 [19:31] gotcha. go to /etc/X11, edit xorg.conf to use Driver "intel" instead of "i810" [19:31] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [19:31] rworkman: do you plan to put them up at some point? I'd like to try 4.3 without having to compile :> [19:32] fire|bird built 32 bit packages iirc [19:32] along with appropriate l/ upgrades [19:33] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:33] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-62-241.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] thrice`: I doubt it, to be honest. I try not to jump ahead of -current unless something needs extra testing (or similar situations) [19:33] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:34] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:34] rworkman: i thought you'd notice that i stated 4.3 demand was from weeks before it was released/announced and responded with a hilarious quip. Are you losing your edge dude? [19:34] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> fire|bird [19:35] eviljames: ah. Sheesh. It's only my second day back at school with students; give me a break... ;-) [19:35] bummer [19:36] eviljames, thanks. do i have to change the identifier field as well, or does that not matter? [19:36] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:40] Is a new guide will be distributed with slackware 13 or not ? Because I am Sotorgom old Guide . [19:40] a guide for what fzza3a ? [19:41] phreak: The identifier shouldn't matter. [19:41] thrice`, for slackware 13 like this : http://www.slackbook.org/ [19:42] eviljames, ok thank you [19:42] phreak: No problem, I would check through /var/log/Xorg.0.log (warning, very verbose) to ensure that the driver change has happened. [19:43] sorry for my bed English [19:44] fzza3a: a new slackbook is being worked on, but probably won't be finished by slack 13 [19:44] eviljames: Will do. thanks again. [19:44] phreak: No worries [19:44] god damnit [19:45] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Anybody know if Tkinter is part of python's base modules? [19:46] Well, their wiki implies it so I'm going to drop that from the list of dependencies for tovid.. [19:46] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [19:46] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] thrice`, what about txz ? [19:47] eviljames: fwiw, I didn't have to install that module for tovid and tovid works fine here. [19:47] fire|bird: I'm making a slackbuild for tovid and whichever deps aren't already on SBO for submission [19:48] sweet [19:48] fire|bird: The tovid wiki explicitly requires it, but it seems that it is part of python so..great! :D [19:48] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-204-157-244.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:49] yeah, there's still that wxPython issue with it though I believe, or at least there was when I installed it after my fresh current install, so the gui is a bit finicky. [19:49] cli works fine though [19:49] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:51] ah, yeah, I only use it at the cli myself so that's good [19:51] but if someone builds/uses it from sbo, it would be nicer to have everythign work :D [19:51] anyhow, afk for a while. [19:52] yeah, the wxPython issue can be fixed by editing the tovidgui file after install, but the gui afterwards is finicky, without the edit, the gui doesn't work at all. 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[20:26] andli_ (n=sbtr@c-b7d0e555.027-95-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:26] andli (n=sbtr@c-b7d0e555.027-95-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:27] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-424856.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] woo [20:29] big storm and window was open, the side of my case is covered in water [20:29] looks kinda neat, clear plastic side [20:29] fiyawerx: haha [20:29] Man I never will build a Mini-ITX computer again! [20:29] hey fire|bird [20:30] y0 lf4, how goes? [20:31] much more water ( into the back) and he'd have seen some real fiyawerx [20:31] :)) [20:31] KABOOM [20:31] It's alright lol I think I just hit bottom lol a little while ago my mother showed she bought me rogaine :P you know its bad when that happens. [20:31] lmfao [20:31] hahahahahaha [20:33] lf4: I think, however, hitting bottom would be being bald with no chance of rogaine helping. :P [20:33] Oh I just built a mini-itx computer and question how well the airflow is going to be with all those parts. [20:33] wtf is rogaine? [20:33] haha fire|bird I don't care if I go bald or not thats the thing. [20:34] KidneyBeans: google it. [20:34] lf4: Well, your mother does. Now listen to your mother. :P [20:34] morning again [20:34] hey dive [20:34] lol fire|bird [20:34] hey dive [20:34] another evening of fragging and bagging [20:35] haha fire|bird I put the arguement $30 for a tiny bottle that you have to keep buying for the rest of your life is pointless. I rather have the money to buy more stuff :P [20:35] dive: sounds fun :) [20:36] lf4, what kinda hw in it? do you expect it to get that hot? [20:36] lf4, yeah it can be. There are still some good servers for UT. [20:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:37] antiwire, evening [20:37] hello fine sirs [20:38] hey antiwire, how are you? [20:38] chopp, did you find a script to suit your needs? [20:38] fiyawerx: lol figuritivly everything in there is packed, its a Celeron Duo Core 2.4 with 2GB, 320GB HDD, Lian-li case and a 500w UPS. [20:39] dive: Interesting I played UT a little but was more a Quake3 or CS nerd :) [20:39] alphad (n=alphad@41.189.34.89) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] hey antiwire [20:39] lf4: crap, your CPU is better, but I haz mor hdd space. 640G :P [20:39] more [20:40] antiwire: I'm trying a different approach to imaging the laptop hdd. If I find success, I'll let you know. [20:40] lf4, I couldn't get CS to work in wine. Played the single game though. Quake is hard to get used to when you get used to dodging. [20:40] I've installed alien arena but not really played it much yet. [20:40] anyone else get the global notice from tomaw? [20:41] fire|bird, yeah but page wouldn't load. [20:41] dive: It did after a bit for me in FF. [20:41] I guess 1000000 users suddenly clicking a link wouldn't be good. [20:41] fire|bird: lol thats just my mini-itx... my server has 4x500GB 1x160GB, AMD(forgot what model) 3.0Ghz 4GB ram [20:41] fmccor is who passed away. [20:41] lf4: ah crap, you got me there. :/ [20:42] fire|bird: lol I'll take a picture of my desk soon.. I just have to clean up my mess from building this new system. [20:43] lf4: nah, I just need your addy so I know where to pick them up. :P [20:44] Looks like fmccor was a gentoo dev. [20:44] fire|bird: lol 17400 Nursery Ct. Mount Airy MD 21771 :P [20:44] haha [20:44] It's always sad when someone passes away. If anything it should make us respect those people that we know who are alive now. [20:44] hahahaha [20:45] dive: agreed [20:45] he was involved in gentoo dev for sparc machines, or at least very active in that area. [20:45] who passed away? I didn't get any notice [20:45] lf4: fmccor, a gentoo dev [20:45] and not take for granted all the good work they do, especially for free and in their spare time. [20:45] [Global Notice] In memory of a recently deceased good friend: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-787855-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html [20:46] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [20:47] dive: Yeah, there's several people out there, around the world, that devote amazing amounts of time and effort into what they do, and as you said, for free no less. [20:48] wow, that sucks. [20:49] eviljames: yeah, for sure. [20:49] dive: I'm still playing with it. I can suspend manually, but can't get it triggered with my lid switch yet for some reason. [20:49] I made a new friend today - a little white kitten was scratching and crying around my front door, so I put some milk down etc. It got really friendly but after I went out it disappeared somewhere and hasn;t been back. [20:50] chopp, thinkpad? [20:50] (not a cat person usually) [20:50] phillipsm1 (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving." [20:50] dive: yes, thinkpad/fluxbox [20:50] dive: that was a scratch, drink and run kitten. [20:51] hey fire|bird any luck with the imaging? [20:51] lol, drink and run. :D [20:51] lf4: just trying again, I'll let you know. :P [20:51] lol... I just got an sms from a friend that just said "What are you?" haha how do you reply to that? [20:51] fire|bird: oh nice. [20:51] lf4: "My cpu is a neural net processor; a learning computer." [20:52] lf4: 40 minutes left. :/ [20:52] c [20:52] d [20:52] e [20:52] l jfutkko,45ikkkkkak [20:52] h\ [20:52] antiwire: haha I like that one. [20:52] fail! [20:53] nhhhhhh[nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [20:53] W"w''w [20:53] is rworkman drunk? [20:53] what the.... [20:53] lol [20:53] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:53] chopp, you might have different codes to mine. Try putting 'echo "hotkey code = " $1 >> etc/acpi/log' in hotkey.sh and having a look at the codes. [20:53] EEk. No, but my daugher is two. [20:53] stoned [20:53] hahaha [20:53] rworkman: haha [20:53] lol [20:53] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:53] rworkman: just has a broken keyboard that types what ever it wants no matter what key he presses. [20:53] rworkman: and she's found the keyboard. [20:53] Indeed. [20:53] haha rworkman [20:53] "Cat-like typing detect" [20:54] rworkman: just wait until she can type actual sentences. :) [20:54] dive: ok I'll give that a shot [20:54] hehehe [20:54] http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/ [20:54] haha antiwire nice [20:54] but its windows based :P [20:55] rworkman, cmon, we all know by now that you have /c for /clear and mistype frequently ;-P [20:55] rworkman: I see your daughter types just like you! [20:55] Dominian, it's the genes [20:55] aye [20:55] lol [20:56] picked up a 15.4" wide screen monitor for 98 bucks [20:56] If you keep missing the / key then it's a good guess that your offspring will do also [20:56] Dominian: nice [20:56] Dominian, seems a bit excessive? [20:56] Dominian: laptop screen? [20:57] no [20:57] I'm a bit irritated [20:57] newegg JUST drop the prices on their 19" [20:57] dive: haha. I didn't even catch that -- odd that she would choose "c" as her first character. [20:57] So i've been reading alienBOB's wiki on setting up a PXE server but I cant figure out one thing. Does it support multiple images? like a menu of different OS selections? [20:57] Dominian: yeah, you can get 19" for around that usually. I at first though a lappy screen, which for that price wouldn't be so bad depending on model. [20:57] Ä [20:58] Yeah.. not happy... [20:58] Dominian: apparently :D [20:58] I knew I should've checked newegg again [20:58] lf4: that's a good question. [20:58] Dominian: can you return it? [20:58] rworkman: they must've JUST dropped it [20:58] wow, nice surfboard http://photos.surfline.com/albums/userpics/15533/l.jpg [20:58] fire|bird: probably, but I'm too lazy [20:58] Dominian: I've seen 19" on newegg for around that price for a while now. [20:58] antiwire: I'd ride it. [20:59] fire|bird: figures.. [20:59] lol [20:59] oh well [20:59] its for my wife anyway [20:59] She just need something that works [21:01] oh man this dude got jacked http://photos.surfline.com/albums/userpics/18935/Over_the_Falls___Wedge_2_DSC02535.jpg [21:01] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [21:01] here is that same place before it breaks http://photos.surfline.com/albums/userpics/19254/JZ0E7496.jpg [21:01] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:01] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [21:02] antiwire: wow [21:02] i woulndt want to be in either of those pics [21:02] hehe [21:03] what do you guys use for a pdf viewer in kde 3.5? [21:03] fiyawerx, I've been testing epdfview lately [21:03] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] oh, didnt realize there was a foxit for linux [21:03] fiyawerx, the only thing that it doesn't do that kpdf does is allow you to fill in forms [21:04] oh forgot about kpdf [21:04] I use the actual adobe reader [21:05] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/office/adobe-reader/ [21:05] it does the deal, sometimes a little resource intensive though [21:05] hmm, kpdf isn't in the 'office' section of my menu, thats why i couldn't find it, guess its installed tho [21:05] ilyas2 (n=ilyas2@adsl-185-85-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:05] now to try to get firefox to open to it [21:05] it will also embed in FF if that's something you want [21:05] yes it takes ages to load on laptop [21:06] antiwire, ah, yeah that would be nice [21:06] antiwire: I used to use that, but couldn't get it to print well, otherwise worked great. It'd get about halfway through the second page (any pdf) and just quit. [21:06] hmm, I've never tried printing from it, I don't even have a printer [21:06] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:06] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [21:06] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. [21:07] wish you could 'tag' entries in sbo [21:07] you can with sbopkg [21:07] To start is /run but whats the command to stop a script in irssi? [21:07] like tagging adobe-reader so it showed up if you search 'pdf' would be nice [21:07] sbopkg? [21:07] not familiar with that [21:07] it's the unofficial client to slackbuilds.org [21:08] antiwire: I never had that issue on any other distro with it, but I did with slack, but now that reminds me, having a recently fresh current install, I should try it again. [21:08] oh, wow [21:08] sbopkg.org [21:08] dive: thanks, thats great [21:08] dive: I just noticed that there is a newer version of adobe reader available than the one at SBo http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.1.2/enu/AdbeRdr9.1.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin [21:09] i'm going to give it a shot right now [21:09] How does one shovel the output of 3 or 4 commands into a single text file. [21:09] Many ways [21:10] nsp: you can use log correlation http://www.slackwiki.org/Log_Correlation [21:10] oops [21:10] cmd1>file;mcd2>>file;cmd3>>file or (cmd1;cmd2;cmd3)>file [21:10] that actually doesn't seem relevant [21:11] rworkman: You can use () for commands? :D I didn't know that. [21:11] :) [21:11] I'm not *certain that the second instance will work actually :/ [21:12] Action: lf4 checks... [21:12] dive: bad link, here's the bz2 http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.1.2/enu/AdbeRdr9.1.2-1_i486linux_enu.tar.bz2 [21:12] antiwire, thanks [21:12] rworkman: it does :) [21:13] that's awesome to know [21:13] something like: [21:13] cat /proc/cpuinfo > hardware-info.txt ; cat /proc/meminfo >> hardware-info.txt ; lspci >> hardware-info.tx [21:13] (uptime;date)>test;cat test worked great I'll have to remember that. Thanks rworkman [21:13] lf4, (command; command2) has the shell run the commands inside the ( ) in a subshell [21:13] cool [21:13] looks prettier than the multiple >>'s too [21:14] you...as pretty as commands can be [21:14] i wish adobe would release their applications on linux [21:14] antiwire: haha well, it works. [21:14] open source ppl need to be more willing to get commercial software to run on their puters :/ [21:14] nachox: thanks for the explination :) [21:15] antiwire: yeah haha much much better then >>>>> :P [21:15] no problem [21:16] hashi (n=hashi@d122-104-87-206.meb8.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [21:16] KidneyBeans, vice versa I think [21:17] KidneyBeans: What do you mean by release on Linux? adobe posts Linux versions of a few of their tools [21:17] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] flash and reader are the ones I use [21:17] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Being released for and opening the source are two different things [21:18] Nick change: CeruleanC -> dekisugi [21:21] wunsh (n=wunsh@92.229.50.151) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:22] jstarcher (n=jstarche@75-38-155-182.lightspeed.kentoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] but yeah...like Nirvana suggested..if you're locked in box and someone gives you breather holes, you'll be happy [21:26] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] but you're still locked in a box [21:26] antiwire: Just built adobe 9.1.2 here now, I'll test it with printing a pdf sometime and see if it works now. [21:27] fire|bird: printing pdfs does not require adobe [21:28] fire|bird: Nor does generating or viewing them. [21:28] nsp: I know [21:28] he was specifically talking about adobe reader though [21:28] fire|bird: Ok, sorry, been away, jumping into middle of conversation I guess. [21:28] yeah donny [21:28] lol [21:28] I print and view pdf's all the time, not to mention create tons of them. [21:29] I use xpdf to view them and soffice to create them. [21:29] \o/, 3 minutes of this hdd image left. I hope this one finally works. :/ [21:29] I use a template for creating invoices and email a resulting pdf [21:29] My first upgrade was bittersweet... 12.1 to 12.2 [21:30] My KDE is a little erratic now. [21:30] ganeshix: that's normal for KDE... ;) [21:30] ganeshix: Ho's that? [21:31] For instance, when I click the 'home' icon, the konqueror file manager just freezes... [21:31] what could 12.2 do that 12.1 couldnt? [21:31] s/Ho's/How's/ ;) [21:31] I have KDE-3.5 and it's rock solid. [21:31] kde 3.5 looks like shit [21:31] KidneyBeans: Looks better than KidneyBeans [21:31] :) [21:31] lol prolly ;p [21:31] haha [21:31] you know i quite like xfce now [21:32] Action: fire|bird high fives nsp for that one. :) [21:32] if one thing came outta the gnome kde war is that ppl get tired of bloat ;p [21:32] Another weird thing yesterday. I used Kusers to create an account (I confess, I used the gui instead of adduser)... [21:32] razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] lol man [21:32] the gui is there, might aswell use it [21:33] ganeshix: you WHAT?!? :P adduser is your friend. :) [21:33] And When I entered the newly created account, KDE took forever to 'configure services'. After leaving the computer for hours, I had to kill KDE... [21:33] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:33] fire|bird, I know... I've used it always. Yesterday I just got lazy.... [21:33] nsp how long does it take with kuser? [21:34] ganeshix: Well, try making a user with adduser, log in with that user, and see if you get the same result. [21:34] ganeshix: did you add the user you created with kuser to the proper groups? [21:34] antiwire, adobe reader works great now. Thanks for link. One more reason to get rid of kde ;-) [21:34] ln -s luser kuser [21:34] KidneyBeans: I don't know about kuser [21:34] Then I deleted the new user and created a new one with adduser... [21:34] dive: haha nice [21:34] don't suppose I've used kuser yet. [21:34] antiwire, I was careful on that. I had a list of groups and added them all.. [21:35] After using adduser I tried to log into the new user account, and it was the same story, 'configuring services' and then it never ended. [21:35] So, it must be KDE... [21:35] Something is weird with my updated KDE. [21:37] KidneyBeans: Now that I've fired up kuser and know what it is now; How long does it take to do WHAT with kuser? [21:37] Looking at cpu use the K_config or something like that started hogging all resources until my cpu usage became 100%. Then it never let go.... [21:37] I've used both: adduser and kuser. Usually, they both work fine. [21:37] ganeshix: What processor do you have? And how much mem? [21:38] fire, why'd you want adobe reader? [21:38] AMD 64x2 5200+ [21:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:39] ganeshix: cat /proc/cpuinfo > hardware-info.txt ; free >> hardware-info.txt ; lspci >> hardware-info.txt ; pastebinit hardware-info.txt [21:39] lol [21:39] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-176.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] didn't we learn from out () session? [21:39] our* [21:40] here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f78fcd25e [21:40] cat /proc/cpuinfo > http://ganeshix.pastebin.com/d38205cf3 [21:41] ganeshix: How much memory? [21:42] ganeshix: That's a pretty serious processor. Very good! [21:42] mancha: Well, aside from an issue I had with it before on slack, it's the only pdf viewer that printed pdf's without cutting the bottom part off (and no, it isn't page size or margin, etc. issue) [21:43] mancha, kpdf/okular and adobe reader are the only two readers that I've found that will allow filling in of forms. Know any others? [21:43] ped- (n=xLag@189-55-114-110-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [21:43] ganeshix: free | pastebinit [21:43] most of the time epdfview works great tough [21:43] http://ganeshix.pastebin.com/d3eb4fb37 [21:44] fire, ah ok makes sense. does error get inherited if you were to convert via say pdf2ps? (dive, i've not fiddled with forms much) [21:45] mancha: not sure really, haven't tried converting at all. [21:45] ganeshix: I dono.... look at top for a while and see what it's doing. [21:45] mancha: that pdf printing issue is the only reason that I have to start my windows box for, to print a pdf. :P [21:46] nsp, I'll do that. However, it never happened with the previous version 3.5.9 on Slack 12.1.... [21:46] have you narrowed down what types of pdfs suffer this? one particular source? pdf version? [21:46] fire|bird: You're having trouble printing pdfs? [21:46] So, I suspect a software problem... Maybe I goofed up somewhere during the upgrade... [21:47] Although I tried to follow the instructions carefully... [21:47] I'll try again and observe... [21:47] ganeshix: I think there must be several instances of the same applications running or something like that happening to you. [21:47] I see... [21:48] I'll try again while I look at top [21:48] fire|bird: lpr filename.pdf works for me. [21:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:49] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] hello all, what do you all use to control fans on laptops? My laptop fan seems to always be running fairly loudly under linux (but not under windows). I am using the ondemand frequency governor too [21:50] it is a newer ich9 based core2 laptop [21:51] I let the bios control the fans [21:51] sounds like you have a buggy one [21:51] it is a sony vaio -- so yes the bios is buggy :) [21:51] no [21:52] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] lmsensors might be taking control [21:52] luceroz: do you have lmsensors configured? [21:52] once you load lmsensors drivers for the chipset..the bios stops controlling it [21:52] stick to the on die sensors [21:53] luceroz: can you show us the output of lsmod in a pastebin? [21:53] no I do not have lmsensors configured -- this is a brand new slackware install -- I haven't had the chance [21:54] lsmod : http://pastebin.com/d3229a0f0 [21:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-62-241.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:55] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [21:55] i am not familiar with the 'sony laptop' module -- what does that control? [21:55] maybe I should look there [21:58] Those modules usually control specific manufacturer options on laptops. I do see that the thermal and i2c_i801 modules are loaded. Since you have ACPI modules loaded you might try to blacklist that i2c_i801 module and see if anything changes. [21:59] on laptops/on systems [21:59] hey guys [21:59] what would be a great idea for a php web application that i can put in a 'portfolio' [21:59] something that could help the oss community [21:59] any ideas? [21:59] antiwire: alright i will try the blacklist idea. thanks. [22:00] luceroz: I don't expect it to be the ultimate answer but google shows that many people have issues with that module conflicting with ACPI modules [22:00] luceroz: when the fan is running, what does top look like? is anything hogging CPU time? [22:00] antiwire: i know what you mean. i was just looking for a direction not a fix-all answer [22:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:01] antiwire: no, load avg seems to be around the .15 range -- and I am running kde4 with all the default bells and wistles, so i'd expect that [22:01] antiwire: and the ondemand governor is not throttling up either [22:02] luceroz: I've worked on laptops that do really strange, randomly seeming things with the fans; like ramping up and down multiple times over the course of 10 seconds even [22:03] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] fire|bird, pdf printing. Which applications do it wrong? [22:03] <_budo> when i went to upgrade firefox via slackpkg which it did perfectly except one thing: now adobe flash is not working. when i view all the packages on the system it does not indicate to me adobe flash is installed [22:04] what are the social chatrooms? [22:04] <_budo> i guess my question is, did anyone else upgrade firefox and adobe flash stopped working? [22:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] _budo: no, it works fine here [22:04] _budo it probably created a new dir for the firefox installation and the installed add-ons are in the other dir [22:04] _budo: are you sure you used a package to install flash in the first place? [22:04] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] dive: All that I've tried, xpdf, kpdf, okular, etc, except adobe, but that had printing issues before with stopping halfway through the second page. [22:05] _budo: if you had used a package and not manually installed flash, the package would still be listed in /var/log/packages/ even if a part of it was overwritten [22:05] fire|bird, sounds a bit like buggy printer driver. But give epdfview a go and see if it helps. [22:05] <_budo> the initial install of adobe flash was done manually [22:05] well that's why it doesn't show up in slackpkg or pkgtool [22:05] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] fire|bird, epdfview shoudl be on SBo [22:06] dive: ok, will do. Thanks. [22:06] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:06] _budo: reinstall it manually or try using the SBo package. [22:06] <_budo> k [22:06] <_budo> how do i remove the manual one i did [22:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] find the .so of it an rm [22:07] and* [22:07] Bugz, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/office/adobe-reader/ [22:07] here's a hint -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9.9M 2009-08-07 17:46 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so* [22:07] dive: installing now. [22:08] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Bugz, ignore my last post, should be http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [22:10] <_budo> i guess this is it on mine /usr/src/flash_player_10/install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so [22:10] got pdfs on the brain [22:10] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:10] heh, 3.5 hours left on hdd image restore. :P [22:10] tab fail too... [22:11] _budo, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [22:12] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] dive: installed now. I'll give it a try at printing probably tomorrow. [22:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] and I'll try adobe too to see if it prints good again for me. [22:12] hey hiptobecubic [22:13] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-176.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:13] well if it doesn't work I would be looking at drivers [22:13] antiwire: All you need to do is cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ [22:13] seems strange that all pdf viewers print wrong [22:13] dive: yeah, the printer is an HP D2430 [22:13] nsp, it's been a while (most of the day): how did that xorg reconfig go? [22:13] te_: don't tell me, tell _budo [22:13] hi fire|bird [22:14] <_budo> too late now lol. already deleted it [22:15] _budo: All you need to do is cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ [22:16] <_budo> k [22:16] _budo: just use the SBo build so you will no have to winder why flash isn't showing in pkgtools next time [22:16] it will put it in the right place too [22:19] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:19] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177750266.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:19] hello [22:19] 24" lcd doesnt feel as big as it used to, xchat and konsole take up like 1/3 of it :( [22:19] think i need smaller fonts [22:19] http://slackbuilds.org/flash-player-plugin/ <-- updated for x86_64 and for the upstream tarball layout change with r32. [22:20] rworkman: wtf broke screen savers? [22:20] :) [22:20] Ooh, ignore that. I forgot that Erik already updated it in the repo [22:20] Dominian: eh? [22:20] One of the last updates screwed up my GLMatrix screen saver :) [22:20] Dunno; still works here. [22:20] hrm [22:20] Define "last" [22:20] Action: Dominian looks [22:20] I have a support question [22:20] not really slackware realted [22:21] rworkman: Thu Aug 6 00:48:30 CDT 2009 [22:21] Dominian: the group with xfig in it? [22:21] wow, speaking of screensavers, i finally have a machine / drivers that can do the fireowrks 3d without crawling [22:21] but since I run slackware I guess this might be an appropreate channel [22:21] rworkman: Just now getting around to ask anyone about it [22:21] Dominian: oh, no, it works fine after that. [22:21] hrm [22:21] wonder if I need to erinstall something.. [22:21] I haven't done all of the latest updates on this lappy (Aug 11), but all the others are here [22:21] I actually use GLMatrix here, and it's never stopped working :) [22:22] hrm [22:22] macro: do you plan to ask your question, or do you expect an invitation? [22:22] macro: are you gonna ask the question, or just make preparatory statements saying you are about to ask one? [22:22] haha [22:22] heh [22:22] I installed slackware on a laptop [22:23] with an athlon x2 64 processor, I installed 32 bit slackware [22:23] rworkman: uninstall/reinstrall of xscreensaver fixed it [22:23] Action: Dominian shrugs [22:23] under acpi [22:23] under acpi I dont see any support for cpu throttling [22:23] weird [22:23] this thing runs rather hot, and I cannot seem to get any decent battery life out of it [22:23] @Dom [22:23] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:24] macro: what do you mean by "under acpi..."? [22:24] macro: see /etc/rc.d/rc.modules for some suggestions of modules to load, specifically acpi_cpufreq [22:24] and then check into setting your frequency governor to ondemand [22:25] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:25] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:25] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] danc: /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling [22:26] ahhh [22:26] anyone with glasses use a pc headset regularly? [22:27] macro: you don't see various "states available" listed in that file? [22:27] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:27] danc3: nope I just get this [22:28] hmmm, that's strange [22:28] is acpi something that can be turned off in your bios? maybe it's off in there. [22:28] what kernel are you using, too? [22:28] acpi is something that can be toruned off in your head? maybe turn it on there. [22:29] lol [22:29] rworkman: thank you found the module [22:29] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:29] loaded fine and see three steps [22:30] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:30] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) left ##slackware. [22:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:36] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] http://www.hulu.com/watch/57938/saturday-night-live-wii-guys [22:37] danc3: no I don't, but if I use powernowd it works now after loading The powernow_k8 module [22:38] also after I loaded that module I got this messages in syslog [22:38] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor TK-53 processors (2 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00) [22:38] powernow-k8: 0 : fid 0x9 (1700 MHz), vid 0x13 [22:38] Channel flood from macro -- kicking [22:38] powernow-k8: 1 : fid 0x8 (1600 MHz), vid 0x14 [22:38] powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0x0 (800 MHz), vid 0x1a [22:38] macro kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:38] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177750266.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:38] oops [22:39] pastebin.com [22:39] please, use pastebin [22:40] slackboy's kick is faster than Thor's hammer [22:41] slackboy doesn't fool around [22:42] antiwire: LOL, you mom's going to be a natural. [22:42] lol [22:43] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177750266.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [22:43] boo on hulu's region restrictions [22:43] boo on bbc's region restriction [22:43] worse than drm [22:44] tank-man, where you from? [22:44] canada [22:45] \p/ [22:45] err [22:45] lol [22:45] cmake is a goofy-ass build system argh!@# [22:46] I'm starting to like it [22:46] it's all about CMakeCache.txt [22:46] that is your little road map to each project [22:47] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [22:50] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:51] soo... CMakeCache.txt is where the magic is? [22:52] Dominian: I don't think chuck norris could kick slackboy faster than slackboy could kick him. [22:54] hehe [22:57] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Has anyone managed to cross-compile for x86_64 from x86? I miss my distcc farm [22:59] well that 15" I purchased is giong back [22:59] I couldn't stand it any longer.. ordered the 19" widescreen from NewEgg for the same price.. and free shipping [22:59] ::in bed:: [22:59] Dominian, link? [23:00] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:00] http://www.urlx.eu/_Mzk4OQ [23:00] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [23:01] No dvi, that's unfortunate [23:02] no worries [23:02] Its for my wife.. she don't need DVI [23:03] Dominian: haha, laziness went away to send the 15" back? :P [23:03] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [23:03] after I thought about it... the more pissed off I got [23:04] so I'm boxing it up and returning it tomorrow [23:04] already ordered the 19" widescreen from new egg [23:04] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-201.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:04] "ccmake" might also come in handy for you - it will let you interactively see the available options [23:04] nice [23:04] RipVanWinkle: ^ [23:06] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:06] SkyNet_ONE_ (n=Ederson@187.35.193.151) joined ##slackware. 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[23:13] couldnt parse that for a sec [23:13] yeah, cli tool that goes from mpg to dvd in a couple of easy steps [23:13] nice [23:13] tovid is pretty slick [23:13] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-12-247-18.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] also has some gui stuff, i'm including those in the build.. and a ton of dependencies :P [23:14] and as soon as you get done they'll all update [23:14] btw, if anyone prefers their food and drink unadulterated then find Swiss Premeium Green Tea, delicious and no preserves nor additives! 1$ at walmart. [23:14] 1,89K; 1 gallon [23:14] it's really tasty [23:15] oops 1.89L [23:15] kator (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] when is slackware 13 comming out ? [23:16] soon [23:16] my friend smashed up his 2.8ghz core 2 duo with ssd, punched the monitor [23:16] looks like i've had to modify a bunch of the dep build scripts too, so i suppose I should offer patches too. [23:16] why? [23:16] kator: when its ready [23:16] when it's ready kator. It's in rc2 status, so getting closer. [23:16] kator RSN [23:16] today, it is not ready. soon, it should be. vague enough? :D [23:16] Quiznos: huh ? [23:16] Real Soon Now [23:16] Quiznos: ok :P [23:16] wasn't there a tool or some easy way to get the packages and whatnot to upgrade to -current? [23:16] better sooner than later? [23:16] will it be exactly like current ? [23:17] yea [23:17] better. [23:17] :D [23:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:17] fiyawerx: there is slackpkg [23:17] can't waite \o/ [23:17] stop being anxious and wait for it like the rest of us. [23:17] noooooooooo [23:17] or use -current and help squish bugs [23:18] or, use -current and build kde 4.3 because you can't wait. :P [23:18] fire|bird: :P [23:19] Action: Dominian is already running 13.0 [23:19] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:19] eviljames, you can upgrade -to- current with slackpkg? [23:19] are must slackware users kde users ? [23:19] is there anything really new in 13/-current that's not in 12.*? [23:19] Quiznos: kde4 [23:19] Quiznos, kde 4? [23:19] fiyawerx: i don't know, i would just use pkgtools [23:19] Quiznos: run -current and you're essentially running 13 [23:20] yea but i'm not a ver jumper really [23:20] Dominian: but with more bugs [23:20] There's a lot more that will be in 13.0 that wasn't in 12.2 [23:20] kator: what? [23:20] Dominian are they listed anywhere? [23:20] Action: Dominian has had no bugs in -current and the few that were bugs didn't affect me [23:20] Quiznos: You'd know what's changed if you read the changelogs [23:20] Quiznos: ChangeLog.txt ;) [23:20] nods [23:20] are must slackware users kde users ? [23:20] fiyawerx: if you read UPGRADE.TXT there should be all the info you need. [23:20] Kernel, gcc, glibc, etc etc etc [23:20] ok james [23:20] kator: Yes [23:20] dom that's the usual reqs [23:20] te_: :D [23:21] i'm asking about unusualy [23:21] most of mine are. [23:21] kator: There's many that use xfce, fluxbox, or others as well. [23:21] New Xorg [23:21] fire|bird: i said most :P [23:21] k [23:21] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.23.197) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:21] how's nvid suport? [23:21] eviljames, yeah just need an easy way to get the -current/slackware directory heh [23:21] Quiznos: I use the binary driver from Nvidia.com [23:21] Quiznos: wicd and mplayer are now included [23:21] and? [23:21] i always mix up rsync [23:21] Quiznos: works fine [23:21] ok [23:22] however I run a customer kernel [23:22] er.. custom [23:22] kator i dont know wicd [23:22] kator: Are you testing the water here? [23:22] 2.6.30.4 to be exact [23:22] Quiznos: wireless client [23:22] fiyawerx: rsync -azPv rsync://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/slackware-current __DESTINATION FOLDER__ [23:22] ok [23:22] its more than wireles.. [23:22] Kicking the tires, slaming the doors etc? [23:22] Wicd does all network connections [23:22] eviljames, oh, appreciate that [23:22] and yes MPlayer is included [23:22] k [23:22] fiyawerx: throw in a --exclude=source/ and then you can keep it in sync by re-running the comand with --delete. [23:22] is it safe to include mplayer ? i mean with all the codecs now.. [23:23] fiyawerx: unless you want all the sources, but I think my tree of slackware64-current is many gb. :D [23:23] you can get them yourself kator [23:23] kator: Its fine. [23:23] Quiznos: they are included now [23:23] or PV wouldn't have put it in [23:23] kool [23:23] Dominian: ok cool [23:23] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:23] eviljames, i think you only need /slackware-current/slackware to do the upgrade, from what upgrade.txt says [23:23] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:24] fiyawerx: that's right, it's the home of all the packages. the trick is removing packages that aren't included.. it looks like upgrade.txt doesn't have that info. [23:24] the changelog would, though. [23:24] oh, hmm [23:25] kde4.3 makes it possible now to remove single applications :D [23:25] fiyawerx: once that's done, upgradepkg --install-new a/*tgz, then upgradepkg --install-new --reinstall **/*t?z [23:25] kator (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] I highly doubt 13.0 will have kde 4.3 [23:25] has anyone done a manual upgrade to -current? [23:25] fiyawerx: make sure you look into things like kernels, config files and such. don't run this and then bust the system :D [23:25] what are req changes to manual install? gzip i know of. [23:25] eviljames, hehe, no biggie if i do, can just reinstall 12.2 and retry [23:26] pkgtools too [23:26] Quiznos: Does going from Slamd64 to slackware64 manual enough for you :P [23:26] anything else? [23:26] Quiznos: xz [23:26] i'm 32b here only [23:26] Quiznos, http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [23:26] xz i know of [23:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. [23:26] Quiznos: for that.. I suggest clean install [23:26] clean as in from cd? [23:26] gzip, tar, xz, pkgtools, there's aother one.. [23:27] no I guess that's it. [23:27] just those four [23:27] eviljames, yeah changes and hints has the removals from 12.2, shouldn't be too much trouble to remove those manually even [23:27] ok [23:29] UPGRADE.TXT isn't really up to date yet [23:29] are the new steps much different? [23:30] Do an "upgradepkg slackware/*/*.tgz" first to get the new pkgtools and friends that are required, and then from there, follow UPGRADE.TXT [23:30] with --install-new to catch xz [23:30] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:30] ah so you do that before doing glibc now [23:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:31] You have to. [23:31] eviljames: yes, good catch there [23:31] btw; my Archive/ is online; pm me for url. it is extensive, ~80gig so far [23:32] what's the class opinion of getslack? [23:33] eh? [23:33] getslack tool? [23:33] your opinions of it? [23:33] once you upgrade manually to current, you can use slackpkg with a current mirror to stay there right? no need to keep manually rsyncing? [23:33] Quiznos: never heard of it [23:33] k [23:33] fiyawerx: I'd do both. Keep an rsync mirror and point slackpkg to it. [23:34] oh, hmm [23:34] what's the gzip version that does xz? [23:34] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:34] local://path/to/local/mirror/ [23:34] then i can point slackpkg on my next machine to this mirror too couldn't i [23:34] fiyawerx: indeed [23:34] That's exactly what I do [23:34] Quiznos: fail. [23:34] excellent (assuming i dont fubar it somewhere along the way) [23:34] xz is done by xz. [23:34] if this goes smooth on my desktop, going to put slack on my htpc [23:34] oh ok [23:35] hm maybe i should have done everything and not just /slackware then [23:35] fiyawerx: indeed [23:36] this is all pretty in depth to get set up, one good reason not to switcha way from slack since it takes so much to get everything running sweet [23:36] rsync is smart though - as long as your /slackware tree is in /topleveldirtosync/slackware/ then rsync will not download that again [23:36] yeah just did /root/slackware [23:37] need to keep a copy of all the commands i'm using so i can put them in a cron job [23:37] and this chat ofc [23:37] fiyawerx: mkdir /root/slackware-current ; mv /root/slackware /root/slackware-current [23:37] how do i tell slackpkg to look in -curr? [23:37] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:37] Quiznos: /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [23:38] hm, ugh [23:38] k [23:38] The proprietary ATI driver for my HD4850 will not build on the Linux 2.6.29 kernel. [23:38] rsync -avPS --delete mirror/slackware/slackware-current/ /root/slackware-current/ [23:38] found a forum post with that [23:38] rworkman, thanks once again [23:39] As much as I dislike nvidia's closed drivers, Aaron Plattner (the guy who builds the driver for them) does a DAMN good job with keeping it building on newer kernels and xorg [23:39] what's the diff tween 1gig pip and 1gigE pipe? [23:39] pip/pipe [23:40] the "E"? [23:40] yea [23:40] hah [23:41] Action: Dominian has no choice but to use the binary drivers.. [23:41] I need my ET [23:41] hehe [23:41] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:41] oh, looks like the same person posted a patch for the kernel for ati [23:41] this should get interesting [23:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. [23:43] nothing spezivic from google on gig/gigE difference [23:43] any help guys? [23:43] whats the context? [23:44] GetSlack file on slack*.com [23:44] oops [23:44] in the mirrors file [23:44] oh, i think its just how they decided to report it [23:45] some say Mbps, some say Mbit, same thing [23:45] so it really means nothing as to pipe size? [23:45] afayk? [23:45] yeah [23:45] kk [23:45] pick one, try to download a file thats a few megs, and see if it maxes out your connection [23:45] if it does, stick with it [23:45] :) [23:45] yea; is oc12 faster? [23:45] pair.com (us) has that [23:46] i've always had good luck with tds.net mirrors personally [23:46] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:46] if oc12 is faster then i'll get the -current [23:46] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [23:46] oc192? wow [23:46] I've found mixed results with all servers I've tried. I guess it depends on time of day as much as anything. [23:46] oc-12 is what, 600~ Mbit? [23:47] Quiznos, did you try slackware.osuosl.org [23:47] not yet [23:47] reviewing pipe sizes of slack mirrors [23:47] 0c12 644mBits [23:47] 622 [23:47] t1 1.54Mbits [23:48] t3 45Mbits [23:48] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] so now you tell me is oc-12 faster than Gbit [23:48] $16k/mon/ t3 [23:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:49] at the site i'm reading a provider, there is no "gig" sized pipe; so i'm thinking it's a rounded specifier [23:49] oc45 is gig-sized, 2.5gig/s [23:49] oc192 9.6gigBits/s [23:52] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:52] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:52] en.wik has info on "optical carrier" for this thread. [23:52] Hi all... [23:53] "oc" in oc-[number] specifier means Optical Carrier [23:54] fiber! [23:54] need more of it in the diet? [23:54] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] in 2008, ATT announced oc-768 upgrades complete on 80k fiber wavelength miles on one of their backbone netw. [23:55] Action: fiyawerx would like Verizon to announce FIOS upgrades complete in Northeast PA sometime 2009 [23:55] upgrade of a trans-atlantic wire have also been made [23:55] longest hop; 7500 miles [23:56] on a oc768 wire [23:56] impressive! [23:56] Quiznos: why don't you get that? [23:56] pff; cost prohibitive [23:56] you are rich [23:57] Operating System: Unsupported Windows 6.1 (Build #7600) [23:57] payload 39,813.12 Mbits/s on oc768 [23:57] is that terabytes? [23:57] 3Tb? [23:57] or 39gig? [23:58] about 5gigaBYTEs per second [23:58] i always have trouble with those kinds of scale [23:58] or ~38gigabit [23:58] ok [23:58] too slow! [23:58] sort of impressive, we squeeze more BW out of fiber links using WDM, and 40ge is in conception [23:58] almost enough to get to Acentauri in a resonable amount of time [23:58] lol [23:58] so fast, but not /that/ fast [23:58] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:58] i said almost [23:59] infiniband will give you ~96Gbit if you're desperate [23:59] After upgrading to 12.2 I am having some problems with KDE. [00:00] --- Thu Aug 13 2009