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[01:00] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.51) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [01:00] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:04] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [01:05] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.137.114) joined ##slackware. [01:09] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:09] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.77.9) joined ##slackware. [01:11] hey all [01:12] the homosesikals await prop 8 ruling [01:12] just give the homosesikals the right to marry, it's getting annoying already [01:12] jeev: i'm not in california, nor do i care...why don't you discuss this in a political chat instead of ##slackware? [01:13] who knows [01:14] tbh, let prop 8 stand...no one is ever happy unless someone is bitching [01:15] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [01:16] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] i dont care if they get to marry, why stop them ? [01:16] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:16] theres no legit reason [01:17] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:17] Skywise: for...? [01:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:17] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.17) joined ##slackware. [01:18] opposing marrage of anyone else [01:18] Skywise: isn't that, for now, an issue of state's right to define marriage? [01:18] no not at all [01:18] Skywise: and why not? [01:19] no one has the right to select a class to discriminate against [01:19] we all equal under the law [01:19] and separate is not equal [01:19] Skywise: it's not necessarily discrimination [01:19] it is [01:19] and the worst part about it, is that its really no one elses concern besides the people in the wedding [01:20] Skywise: and don't even try to equate gay marriage with forced racial separation of the 19th and early 20th centuries [01:20] hey stop talking off topic losers [01:20] this country has a long history of a bigoted majority [01:20] its one class of people thinking they're better then another [01:20] when its not only not the case, but doesn't even matter as a point of law [01:20] Skywise: since religious groups have ceded their marriage powers to the states, yeah, it's a state issue... [01:21] no its not about religon at all [01:21] they can have whatever rules they want [01:21] we're talking about civics, rules for all of us [01:21] Skywise: actually, marriage was the domain of religion up until that right was ceded to states [01:21] no it wasn't [01:21] and it doesn't matter [01:21] beliefs have no place in deciding law for everyone [01:22] I support gay marriage [01:22] fair is fair for everyone without distinction [01:22] Skywise: since religion is the origin of morals, yeah, they do [01:22] thats why justice is blind [01:22] Agreed. [01:22] no they're not [01:22] religon is not the origin of morals [01:22] bbiab [01:22] as a matter of fact its the opposide [01:22] opposite [01:22] Skywise: all you're saying is "nuh-uh" to anything i say...go find someone who cares what you have to say [01:22] its the consolidation of power based on fear of death [01:23] theres nothing honorable abour religion at all [01:23] what makes you think you can tell anyone else what to do? [01:23] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:23] don't listen if you don't wanna hear what i have to say [01:23] but i'm not here to please you [01:24] Skywise: rather, find someone who will actually talk to you who considers your opinion valid while you contradict them [01:24] and you're talking trask [01:25] have you heard about the history of christianity? is there any religon that hasn't cause atrocities throught history? [01:25] just to make a short list, theres the crusades and the dark ages [01:25] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) joined ##slackware. [01:25] Skywise, christianity? you mean that thing some sneaky jews wrote on a book and made a bunch of idiots (including my family) follow to protect them from all the shit they do ? [01:25] ANYWAY [01:25] has anyone seen gigayacht ? SICK [01:25] lol [01:26] $300M yacht [01:26] we know who can afford it, them doods who get $5 billion dollars a year from us for aid! [01:26] the jews know its just a story book of morals [01:26] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:26] they don't believe in it as fact [01:26] and they wrote it [01:26] ok im out before nyRednek puts on his beanie and says the jews never harmed anyone. [01:26] bye [01:26] lol [01:26] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.137.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:30] Skywise, it depends on the sect. [01:30] Some sects are very orthodox, others not so much. [01:31] What can be said is there are lots of contradictions and issues with the Bible. [01:31] Much of it in the OT. [01:31] its a fable [01:31] it was passed verbally for the first 500 years [01:31] You know it's exactly 500? [01:31] Motoko-chan: no religious discussion in ##slackware...take it -offtopic [01:32] nyRednek, why not? Nobody else is talking. [01:32] nyRednek, you ain't the boss of shit [01:32] It's also not flaming. [01:32] Skywise, keep it nice. [01:32] giving orders like he matter or something [01:32] bernie (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:32] nah, i don't coddle idiots bossing people around when they have no place to do so [01:32] i really don't care what Skywise has to say, considering that i don't have to see it [01:32] Anyway, I'll agree that at least part of the OT was verbally passed for some time. [01:33] Errors will creep in. [01:33] and exaggerations to make the story entertaining [01:33] That doesn't mean the stories can't be divinely inspired. [01:33] theres no test for inspriation [01:33] Skywise, depends on how it was treated. If it was already considered special, exagerations wouldn't really happen. [01:33] True, that's where faith comes in. [01:34] it could be a cosmic ray [01:34] Motoko-chan: i'm asking, nicely, to take religious discussion elsewhere [01:34] yeah, faith is belief with out reason, which is why its bad [01:34] Skywise, there is much more than religion that faith encompases. [01:34] I have faith that Patrick will continue to maintain Slackware. [01:35] well thats whistiling in the dark [01:35] I have no proof that he will, but I believe it. [01:35] right [01:35] its comforting, but its not really based on the truth [01:35] Faith doesn't have to be blind. It can be informed. [01:35] Many of the things mentioned in both OT and NT have been found to be historical. [01:36] you can faithfully believe as you like, after all it doesn't have pass any test [01:36] Indeed. [01:36] Anyway, what does this have to do with Prop8? [01:36] and the celts are known to have existed and fought the english and various kings over time had a name that was like a roman version of arthur, therefore merlin is real! [01:36] i don't know about that, much has been incorporated from other stories from other cultures as well [01:36] maco, maybe! [01:37] not much, the whole problem with prop 8 is that you can't create a subclass no matter how much you don't like them [01:37] He might not have been magic, just really highly skilled. [01:37] Skywise, indeed. [01:37] I agree. [01:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:38] its funny how many americans believe their freedoms extend to oppressing others [01:38] Denying such legal status over a lifestyle choice that some religion doesn't agree with isn't a good defense. [01:38] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:38] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.185.104) joined ##slackware. [01:38] but thats not even what matters, the whole point of marrage is for hospital visitation rights, power of atty and legally being the next of kin [01:38] I do not think that a priest or religious person from other religions should be obligated to perform a ceremony if they disagree with the decision. [01:39] why should the state care about what they belive [01:39] That applies to heterosexual couples where said person doesn't approve either. [01:39] Hi [01:39] vignesh, hello. [01:39] I have slackware 13.1 installed [01:39] no a church can do whatever ceremonies they please [01:39] vignesh: ok... [01:39] vignesh, great! [01:39] and I am trying to install virtualbox, I have installed virtualbox but not able to compile the vboxdrv [01:39] Skywise, indeed. The law shouldn't dictate what a church or other religious group can or cannot do outside of certain things. [01:40] vignesh: first, is it a full install? [01:40] nyRednek: No, but I have installed gcc, make and kernel source [01:40] now if a church wants state funding, then they must adhere to the states guidelines and not disciminate even if its according to their beliefs [01:40] because when they get state funds, they're doing a job for the public not themselves [01:40] Skywise, I'll continue with you in #slackware-offtopic since there is actual distro talk in here now [01:41] i never go there [01:41] vignesh: and by compile vboxdrv, are you using a slackbuild? or just winging it? [01:41] it smells funny [01:41] http://pastebin.ca/1915553 [01:41] Action: Motoko-chan shrugs [01:41] its ok [01:41] Then I'm stopping convo now. [01:41] yeah [01:41] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Let the poor user get some help. [01:41] nyRednek: I did not use a slackbuild, I download Virtualbox from their website and ran the install script [01:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.215.219) joined ##slackware. [01:43] The only kernel source i found on the disk was the smp version [01:43] if you are running virtual box, im assuming you have lots of disk space, so why not do a full slackware install? [01:44] tank-man: I have a slow internet connection and I did a network install [01:44] tank-man: There are reasons one might wish to install a Linux distro in a virtual machine. [01:44] not a very slow connection [01:44] lamah (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Can I use Linux without SWAP, i have 4GB DDR3 of memory? [01:44] vignesh: link the source [01:44] lamah: it's not a good idea but yes [01:44] you don't need swap [01:44] lamah: you can, unless you want to use hibernate [01:44] tank-man: I have slackware as the host [01:44] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@161.184.44.60) joined ##slackware. [01:45] no in virtual machine [01:45] i understand [01:45] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:45] nyRednek: ok :))) no hibernate [01:45] lamah: yeah, hibernate suspends to swap [01:45] i always add swap because disc space is cheap [01:45] lamah: it's still a pretty good idea to have swap nonetheless [01:46] and i make the swap partition first, so its easy to figure out its size, then give the remainder to the parition [01:46] So How do I compile the vboxdrv ? [01:46] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] nyRednek: yes : [01:46] nyRednek: why is that? [01:47] I just have small swap partition around 300 Mb [01:47] and have 1 GB ram [01:47] hello [01:47] popl: so that processes can page out of memory as you load more into your working environment [01:47] a bad program can have a memory leak. i believe swap can help your system stay responsive [01:47] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:47] tank-man: and that too [01:48] also, you need swap to hibernate [01:48] Axius: Hello. [01:48] oh wait that was said way back there ^ [01:48] maco: how much swap is needed to hibernate ? [01:48] as much as your physical memory [01:48] the vbox installer doesn't seem to support slack [01:48] vignesh: at least as much as your physical memory [01:48] vignesh: at least as much as the amount of ram you have, good idea to have more since you might be swapping at the time you try to hibernate [01:48] i usually go for double [01:48] ok [01:48] i used the virtualbox install script on my desktop with slackware fine [01:48] maco: same here [01:49] I dont hibernate [01:49] only sleep, but I am yet to get that working on slackware [01:49] That will be my next question :) [01:49] vignesh: me either, but i've seen programs eat up swap quick(flash-player is notorious) [01:49] Skywise: so you suggest I use the slack build ? [01:49] or do it manually [01:49] or don't use flash [01:49] ;P [01:50] those are always your best choices with slackware [01:50] sorry, mixed conversations [01:50] Skywise: How do i do it manually [01:50] not using flash is a great idea, though [01:50] i typically do things manually [01:50] popl: it's a gread idea, agreed [01:50] you mean compile Virtuabox from source ? [01:50] Skywise: I always do things manually. *winkwink* [01:50] vignesh: a slackbuild *does* compile from source... [01:50] Maybe I will use qemu [01:50] vignesh: you can get the slackbuild from www.slackbuilds.org [01:50] nyRednek: it creates a txz ? [01:51] from source right [01:51] vignesh: for either vbox or qemu [01:51] http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#id2649309 [01:51] All i want to do is run itunes [01:51] scroll down to the install manually section [01:51] I have a iphone and my dad an ipod [01:51] vignesh: usually a tgz, but an installable package, nonetheless [01:51] well why not install wine [01:51] Skywise: I tried that [01:51] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:51] itunes does not detect my phone or ipod on usb [01:52] I installed VirtualBox with the installer [01:52] I dont mind trying once more [01:52] popl: How did you compile vboxdrv [01:52] I just installed the kernel modules for it from slackbuild [01:52] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:52] Ah. [01:52] vignesh: get virtualbox-kernel from slackbuilds.org [01:52] also virtualbox-kernel-addons [01:52] roccity_ (~fataltech@202-154-137-85.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:53] how would I upgrade to kde 4.5 from alienbob packages? [01:53] popl: shall I uninstall vbox what I installed now from their website ? [01:53] i'm so glad bloated kernels aren't a worry anymore [01:53] yeah you definately wanna clean that out first [01:54] vignesh: I couldn't recommend since I don't know what you've done previously. [01:54] Hmm [01:54] roccity_: upgradepkg --install-new after you download them [01:54] nyRednek: thanks [01:54] you only want one install hanging around at a time [01:54] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:54] screw that. I want my failures to be epic, Skywise. [01:55] Action: vignesh is trying iTunes on wine once more [01:55] ah well, if you like to live large like that... [01:55] that's why I used Slackware after all. [01:55] :P [01:55] if I didn't like pain I would be using Arch Linux or something. [01:55] if you never want trouble, get a mac [01:55] popl: if you wanted your system to hold your hand, you'd be using ubuntu [01:55] it will keep you safe [01:56] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:56] Skywise: actually OS X is sort of nice in ways [01:56] s/hold your hand/touch your penis/ [01:56] as long as you keep paying, of course [01:56] i tried running remote x apps with a mac, so much trouble [01:56] sahko: will you hold my hand? [01:56] popl: sure, if that what you want:) [01:56] :P [01:56] sahko: that just sounds wrong in a local rectory kind of way [01:56] pepsi throwback is back, i'm picking up 3 cases tomorrow [01:57] Whenever I want Pepsi I think of Negativland. [01:57] its made with sugar instead of hfcs [01:57] Yes, I know. [01:58] it takes like it used to , but they only make it for a little [01:58] Skywise: They release it strategically. [01:58] yeah, they like to play around [01:58] It's calculated I bet. [01:58] but i figure i'll be sick of it by 3 cases [01:58] Buy more and sell it at an inflated price when Pepsi stops selling it. [01:59] Capitalism, cha cha cha. [01:59] and i don't have any more room for it anyway [01:59] i'd drink the profits [01:59] Skywise: Are you married? [01:59] nope, don't believe in it [01:59] tzy (c0c693a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.198.147.164) joined ##slackware. [01:59] who is taking up all your space? [01:59] but i am in a long term relationship [01:59] my gf [02:00] hello [02:00] It's a simple cost analysis [02:00] i have my little enclave and she's creepin in on that [02:00] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:00] Skywise: eventually you will have nothing [02:00] Skywise: That's how they roll. [02:00] i got 4 pairs of shoes, i can't even count hers [02:01] yeah, i'll need a place just for my stuff [02:01] It's ok to play nice, but be ready with a wooden stake. [02:01] yeah we won't be parting until death, but i'll be dying first [02:01] she'll see to that [02:02] i thought that was the law [02:02] Then she'll really have all your stuff. [02:02] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:02] ;P [02:02] she's already got it, i just take care of it for her [02:05] How do I allow a normal user to mount and umount devices ? [02:06] Because I if I install itunes and I will not be able to mount the iphone or ipod as I am not root [02:06] how do I work this out ? [02:06] basically they need to be in the group that has write access to the device [02:06] true, [02:06] add the user to plugdev, or use the user mount option and put it in fstab [02:06] so try putting the user in plugdev for starters [02:06] nyRednek: thanks installing packages now [02:07] roccity_: np [02:08] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.215.219) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:08] ok done [02:08] man, its 2am, i don't know why i'm awake [02:08] I will try and get back [02:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:13] vignesh (vignesh@122.164.185.104) left ##slackware. [02:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426927.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [02:16] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426927.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:17] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. 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[03:04] I have a problem with device notifier in 13.1 (kde 4.4.3) - it doesn't acknowledge when I insert any cd/dvd although USB sticks work. Any ideas? [03:04] gniks1 (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:05] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:06] dive: did you see device notifier settings-> removable devices? [03:07] sahko, yes I tried playing with it to show all too [03:07] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:07] no change [03:07] maybe you could ask in #kde [03:07] except it shows / and /home [03:07] yeah maybe [03:07] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:07] heh i thought this offtopic [03:08] thought it might be worth asking here first [03:08] no, i meant as in the ## [03:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-223.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:09] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-205-42-87.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:11] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:12] I have the opposite problem Dive :P I'm in xfce and the kde notifier wont stop attempting to notify me of things and crashing heh [03:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] ps. apologies for mimicking your name. [03:14] Does anyone remember the name of the project for a gui version of slackpkg? [03:15] Not gslapt. [03:15] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:20] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:20] Axius (~fd@92.85.217.46) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:21] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-3-119.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:24] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-109-40.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:27] ok it seems that hal/dbus aren't seeing the cd inserted. I've restarted/reloaded everything but kde only detects a cd at login - not when inserted later. [03:28] tzy (c0c693a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.198.147.164) left ##slackware. [03:29] stormtracknole: iirc slackpkg is a gui application. doesnt it use a dialog interface? [03:30] nothing in dmesg... [03:31] gonna boot up with stock kernel I guess [03:31] dive: tried with a new user? [03:31] maybe it was something you did when playing with it [03:31] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:32] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.214) joined ##slackware. [03:36] sahko: There was a poster that created a qt gui package manager. It was on linuxquestions where I first found it. For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the application and thus I don't know how to search it. [03:36] sahko, this was a new user from a few weeks back, but I can make another to test [03:37] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@161.184.44.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:38] stormtracknole: http://slackpackpkgman.wordpress.com/ ? [03:39] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:40] sahko: THANK YOU!! That's what I was looking for! [03:40] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [03:40] np:) [03:40] I've installed Slackware on a friend's box and I want to install this to make it easier for him to install programs. [03:40] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:40] i dont know how reliable it is though [03:41] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:42] no go with a new user [03:43] roccity_ (~fataltech@202-154-137-85.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:44] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:44] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:45] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C725.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] alienBOB: thanks for the kde packages running now and working great!! [03:47] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-109-40.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:48] Axelpalm (~alch@78-28-89-224.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:49] there are two things i want from kde 4.5 the tiling mode and the marble route planning thing thats all :-( [03:51] archcezar (1000@agd252.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:52] roccity_ (~fataltech@202-154-137-85.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:53] m3tti: so make it work [03:53] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [03:54] archceza1 (1000@ajt238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:00] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-140-108.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] delby (~chatzilla@109.67.44.36) joined ##slackware. [04:01] ok so I tried 'dbus-monitor --system' then insert a cd and nothing happens. Any more ideas? [04:02] hello, i want to install slack from external usb dvd drive but my bios does not support boot from usb. can i use floopy boot and install the system from external dvd? [04:03] popl: but i don't want to switch to current my stable system works so well [04:05] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:06] dive: what problem are you having? [04:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-98-77.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:07] device notifier in kde doesn't see my cd/dvds except if they are inserted already when I log in [04:07] ie if I insert one now it won't see it [04:07] sees usb sticks fine though [04:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-4-31.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:08] I was told if that dbus command didn't show when something was plugged in the hal isn't seeing it and :. nor kde [04:10] delby: there is a way to start from floppy and use a hdd or an ftp you setup [04:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-140-108.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:11] mac- (~mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:11] hi [04:11] do we have wol package in slackware repository ? [04:12] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:12] dive: which dbus command? [04:12] dbus-monitor --system [04:12] oh right, my bad [04:12] sorry [04:13] dive: did you run it as root? [04:13] yes [04:13] when I plug in a usb stick it gives a lot of info [04:13] but nothing for cd [04:13] mac-: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/wol/ [04:14] thanks, I thought that there is already package, but I will compile :> [04:14] I deleted /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules and rebooted [04:15] naja [04:15] mac-: np :) good luck [04:15] m3tti: thanx. will try putting the files on hd and mount it. [04:15] popl, I'm ok with most things but hal/dbus just make me want to bash my head slowly against a wall :) [04:16] dive: I'm not using KDE but the dbus installation shouldn't really have anything to do *with* KDE [04:16] dbus-monitor --system as root is giving me loads of information when I insert dvds or cds [04:16] Morn [04:16] I am using the persistent cd rules [04:16] yeah that's my problem - I don't get anything [04:17] dive: do you even have a /dev/cdrom device? [04:17] udev is making the correct devices [04:17] all linked to sr0 [04:17] can you mount them manually? [04:17] I can mount manually [04:17] and with autofs (when it's behaving) [04:18] so if I understand correct hal should be sending dbus messages about the devices? [04:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] Zordrak, morning [04:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [04:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [04:20] christian (~christian@92.117.4.119) joined ##slackware. [04:20] morning lads o/ [04:20] mornin phrag [04:20] dive: HAL will soon be deprecated [04:20] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Please release me from this hell..... [04:20] popl, and not a moment too soon [04:20] dive: everything will be integrated into udev [04:20] yeah I know [04:21] but that doesn't help the current problem :/ [04:21] speaking of, are you running up-to-date versions of all the relevant packages? [04:21] yeah it's a stick 13.1 [04:21] stock [04:21] stuck [04:21] ;P [04:21] indeed [04:21] you should upgrade bind if it's a stock system [04:21] but I digress [04:22] thing is a had a voicemail from yesterday I missed from someone I set up a 13.1 laptop for and she's unable to mount cds [04:22] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [04:22] dive: do you have entries in fstab for the cd device? [04:22] which is why I decided to see what happens on mine [04:22] nope [04:23] dive: is she in cdrom groupe and plugdev [04:23] yes [04:23] and me too for that matter [04:23] hm ok than it could be hal [04:24] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-151-98.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] which laptop [04:24] well mine's a T42, the other is a compaq something or other [04:24] ok that should work well [04:24] strange stuff going on [04:25] indeed [04:25] and the stock kernel [04:25] and a full install [04:25] dive: does plugdev have correct permissions set in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf ? [04:25] I'm half tempted to install alienBOB's 4.5 kde [04:25] popl, I hope so - I've never touched it [04:25] It has nothing to do with kde dive, it is dbus that's screwed up if you're not getting messages on the bus [04:26] [04:27] under that heading you should have allow tags for Storage and Storage.Removable [04:27] what's the hal command similar to dbus-monitor? [04:27] I used to know it.. [04:29] ok I think I found it [04:29] brb reboot [04:29] ok have fun [04:29] :P [04:30] Last night's Off the Hook was really cool. [04:30] It was a donation drive show but they played recordings of some old phreaks from 1960 routing their calls all around the US [04:30] :) [04:32] ha sounds great are there examples to listn to anywhere [04:32] 2600.com, the link is on the front page [04:32] you cans tream it or download the mp3 [04:33] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:34] they also talked to the guys who are at eth0 in Holland right now [04:34] those guys are broadcasting their own station at the eth0 event [04:34] I would love to go to one of those overseas conventions. [04:35] http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17786 <- everyone who is using kde realy great guide how to integrate firefox [04:35] roccity_ (~fataltech@202-154-137-85.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:35] hey holland thats just 100km from here [04:37] roccity_ (~fataltech@202-154-137-85.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:38] popl, well after all that, I found the problem. Last week I was playing with powertop and getting cpu calls down to a minimum. One method was to disable polling of cd drive. I didn't know it would be permanent until I reenabled it with ' hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sr0 --enable-polling' [04:39] doh? [04:39] dummy :) [04:39] XD [04:39] at least you figured out your problem [04:40] premature optimization kills [04:40] it ends relationships too [04:40] apparently when you disable polling it makes a kind of blacklist file that's persistent. I imagined that it was a command that needed running on boot so I put it in rc.local [04:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-151-98.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:41] so anyway, that's my problem cured, but I didn't do that on the client's laptop... [04:41] is the problem on your machine? [04:41] but until I've spoken with ther I won't know what's going on [04:41] right [04:41] it might be the configuration file [04:41] I'd check that first [04:42] yeah I _did_ upgrade 13.0 -> 13.1 so I'm thinking perhaps libata and I didn't delete the old persisten-cd.rules [04:42] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [04:43] ugh, public transportation in California sucks [04:43] s/in California//g [04:44] Zordrak: it's actually quite nice in Eugene, Oregon, from what I hear. [04:44] the bus stops are nice and all the local students ride free [04:45] It most definitely sucks in LA and Riverside Counties, though. [04:46] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:46] all good in the slackware hood? [04:46] phrag: no [04:47] phrag: all is fine in dA gHetTo! [04:47] =) [04:48] popl: whats up [04:48] phrag: shit no. Currently in the Worst. Courtesy Car. Ever!! [04:48] surrounder: cover up your whiteness, you are blinding me [04:48] ;P [04:48] popl: haha [04:49] Zordrak: haha, i have to walk =P [04:49] phrag: I have a stupid video bug with my laptop so sometimes when I resume from a suspend in X I get nothing [04:49] walking is fun [04:49] are you walking right now? [04:49] that's a feat [04:49] popl: i have that same bug on my thinkpad / intel chip [04:49] on your feet [04:49] phrag: so annoying [04:50] popl, I used to get X resume problem. Which card? [04:50] actually, that's a lie [04:50] ... [04:50] the thinkpad resumes fine, it's my work dell that blanks screen [04:50] yeah, it's a dell [04:50] phrag: id be tempted instead of this.. Completely knackered S-reg Ford Escort with the steering control of a pit bull with Alzheimer's, a clutch biting point somewhere near my knee and the brakes from a council commercial waste bin [04:50] nvidia? [04:50] Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 [04:50] dive: ^^ [04:50] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Zordrak: ahahaha, i can picture it now [04:51] popl: same chip? [04:51] popl: cause i've been meaning to take a look at it and try fix [04:51] well what I found with my nvidia gpu box that did that was that I had an extra/wrong agp module loaded at the same time at boot so check that. [04:51] well annoying restarting X nearly everyday [04:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:51] Axius (~fd@92.84.29.157) joined ##slackware. [04:52] i have intel_agp and agpgart loaded right now [04:53] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:53] I think mine have a problematic sis_agp loaded. As soon as I blacklisted it it worked fine. [04:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-138-129.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] may be worth looking into [04:54] anyway I've had enough wallheadbashing for one day [04:54] phrag: same one [04:55] see you on the dark side [04:55] bbl [04:55] phrag: I have seen bug reports for fedora and ubuntu regarding this issue [04:56] g0v: down boy [04:56] in which package login is placd ? [04:56] haha [04:56] phrag: g0v got triggered [04:56] g0v still noticeing on seen? [04:57] yeah [04:57] yeh, i'll fix that, sorry =P [04:57] mac-: shadow [04:57] popl: which kernel you using ? [04:58] 2.6.33.4 [04:58] popl: and ls ? [04:59] can't see anything in 2.6.35.1 changelog regarding intel graphics [04:59] Axius (~fd@92.84.29.157) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:00] mac-: what are you trying to do? [05:00] mac-: slackpkg has a file-search option [05:00] Angelina. [05:01] Morning. [05:01] Who said that?! [05:01] Huh? [05:01] popl: I will upgrade glibc, then need to upgrade critical packages before :P [05:02] mac-: do you have ls right now? [05:02] grep $(which ls) /var/log/packages/* [05:02] oh wait [05:02] :P [05:04] hm, after glibc upgrade I have to reboot machine ? [05:06] wow google chrome is way fast man [05:06] yeh it is [05:06] m3tti: watch netstat [05:06] ha [05:06] ok i'm using iron there is no connection to google [05:06] prefetching? [05:06] got an iron build ? [05:07] i couldn't get it running lasttime i tried... about 6 months ago iirc [05:07] phrag: iron works great for me [05:07] you need orbit2 and gconf2 [05:07] than everythings fine [05:08] orbit2 meh [05:09] I just uninstalled gconf [05:09] ah cool, via sbo? [05:09] Action: phrag is upgrading kde on his work machine [05:09] ..whilst on call and in the office [05:09] I'm using XFCE [05:09] o.0 [05:09] I might not be using it much longer though [05:10] i use xfce on my thinkpad [05:10] I'm getting this bug which only happens sometimes. [05:10] I haven't been able to pinpoint why. [05:10] Sometimes when I click ont he quit button I will just get a "Quit XFCE Panel?" message. [05:12] phrag: only the orbit and gconf builds are available maybe i could submit a build [05:12] it would be the first time for me XD [05:12] m3tti: it's not difficult, just time consuming. [05:12] m3tti: that would be good, i would definately like to use iron [05:13] do not trust chrome though [05:13] I marked Google as untrusted with NoScript. :P [05:13] they still let you use their maps without Javascript though, because they want your location data. :P [05:14] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Buggaboo (~Buggab00@sc-106.r-213-125-7.schoolconnect.nu) joined ##slackware. [05:14] hi [05:14] hello [05:15] my boss wants me to setup an smtp server to intercept all outgoing e-mails from the company. [05:15] anyone setup anything like this before? [05:15] phrag: but it's awesomely easy to setup [05:15] you mean intercept like how? [05:15] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [05:15] topology: client -> local smtp server -> isp smtp server [05:16] local smtp server stores all outgoing mails (my minions will setup the clients to send to local smtp server) [05:16] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:16] Buggaboo: easy mode =) [05:16] Buggaboo: cleared with company T&C ? [05:17] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:17] m3tti: gonna have a go today... would love to get a working slackbuild though [05:17] there's probably some fuse-based application to mount the mails to violate their privacy thoroughly. [05:17] m3tti: perhaps we could work on one together [05:17] yeah [05:17] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:17] phrag, T&C? This comes from the head boss. [05:18] fair do's =P [05:18] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:18] the boss wants to snoop on workers email? [05:18] yep. [05:18] steve__ (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:18] i would refuse on the grounds of morality [05:18] your boss is a cock [05:18] popl, not arguing with you. [05:18] I would quit my job over something like that [05:18] i'm sure that's illegal without prior warning to all empoloyees [05:18] popl, good for you. [05:19] it has to be stipulated in contract or at least announced to all staff [05:19] steve__ (steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware. [05:19] I will tell him about it. [05:19] Oh and the staff. [05:19] I'm not going to help on grounds that I think it is morally reprehensible. [05:19] popl, okay, thanks for your input. [05:20] is the company based in the country of your tld Buggaboo? [05:20] His motive is "let's store the workers e-mails so we don't lose info on correspondences with clients" [05:21] We have an active directory system with thunderbird and outlook smtp/imap clients. A hassle. [05:21] If it were up to me, we'd be all using xmpp. [05:22] That's also in the pipeline... mental note: install jabber... [05:23] popl, it's not necessarily evil btw, people who want to send private e-mails can send their junk through a different route. [05:24] Buggaboo: you got AD working with pure linux client [05:25] Buggaboo: Unless the contract that the employee signs has language that their emails will be kept locally, there is an expectation of privacy. [05:25] phrag, I got samba4 working with windows clients. [05:25] In the US that is enough. I don't know what the laws are like where you are. [05:25] phrag, not the other way around yet. [05:25] Buggaboo: that's a bone of contention at my place too [05:25] have to run a VM just for outlook [05:25] suck balls [05:25] sucks* [05:26] but... did find something the otherday which may work.. i'll try find it, sec [05:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-138-129.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:26] Buggaboo: Most companies wouldn't advertise that people could use alternative email, though, and I don't think most workers would have the technical expertise or access even to change their Outlook/Thunderbird settings. [05:26] it's a dilemma for sure [05:27] Buggaboo: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ [05:27] popl, okay, I'll take it up with the boss and try to inform the workers as adequately as possible. [05:27] i do get to run purely Slackware on my work machine... just the AD mail issue i still have to grapple with [05:28] and the intel bug? [05:28] what AD mail issue phrag? [05:28] going to try setup davmail.. it creates a little exchange gateway on your localmachine and translates normal SMTP into AD crap and talks [05:28] Hm... [05:28] popl: check thread ^ [05:29] ..smoek break [05:29] ah the exchange server. [05:29] We don't got that. [05:29] unfortunately irc conversations are not threaded. :( [05:29] we use google for a bunch of things. [05:29] so Google's already got your data. Just have your boss ask for a copy. ;P [05:30] s/alreadP/already/ [05:30] oh damnit [05:30] what's up with irssi [05:30] popl, no but we don't send mail through google. [05:30] popl, 'weechat' might be more to your liking. [05:30] popl: the buffer.. the discussion thread in the channel buffer =P [05:30] I find irssi replaces random characters [05:30] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C725.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:30] phrag: I know [05:31] =) [05:31] popl: that's your charset [05:31] phrag: I was lamenting the fact that I would have to scroll up and search rather than just follow a thread [05:31] maybe need UTF or something [05:31] really? [05:31] I am using utf8 [05:31] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:31] well, 'UTF-8' in irssi [05:32] same it hink [05:32] and LANG is en_US.UTF-8 [05:33] phrag, you recommend davmail for my problem? [05:34] has anyone ever played angband? [05:34] anyone here right now I mean [05:36] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) joined ##slackware. [05:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-28-230.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [05:39] Can anyone think of a better way to improve my project section? http://www.rhisa.com/#projects [05:40] delby (~chatzilla@109.67.44.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:40] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-144-66.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:41] phrag, I'll also checkout davmail. [05:41] risa: why do you have dll files listed? [05:41] I have to setup a vm guest first. bbl. [05:41] popl, for wine. [05:41] I am going to note that. [05:41] jeev: you're inviting me to armenia? next year? :P [05:42] KaMii: yeah, you can usually get a chunk of data out of xml using sed and the likes, but it's very brittle: a newline could easily break your sed expression(s) [05:42] and a real parser feels cleaner :P [05:44] risa: most people going to a projects page like that probably don't care about individual files like that, so perhaps you could group all the wine-related stuff under a wine node or something like that. [05:44] risa: that being said, I would suggest having some better projects. ;P [05:45] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-28-230.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:49] popl, I have more, don't worry. [05:49] I just need a better way to organize it and make it look better. [05:49] Just call these projects A B and C. [05:50] my suggestion would be to find someone's site that is organized in a way that you like and try to emulate that [05:50] christian (~christian@92.117.4.119) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:51] Like whose? [05:55] adrien, check out e4x on rhino. [05:55] git clone http://github.com/Buggaboo/e4x_rhino_test [05:56] you can safely dump sed etc. for parsing xml. [05:58] risa: I don't know. Look around. [05:58] use your nut :P [05:58] Nut? [05:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-177-39.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] head/brain [06:00] hm, now an active record library for rhino... [06:01] noodle, grey matter, brain [06:02] Weird term. [06:02] Okay. [06:03] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:04] stunix (1000@85.19.141.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:05] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [06:07] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-177-39.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:10] adrien: why are you addressing me on a topic that was talked about days ago? Im confused [06:10] stephen_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:12] KaMii: because I was away :P [06:12] just got back =) [06:12] you read two days of backlogs? [06:16] shaker (~shaker@nat/yahoo/x-hnzcperujgubllex) joined ##slackware. [06:19] kozandr (~kozandr@forum.zelcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:20] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-108-200.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:23] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Hello I am confused, how come http://www.lulzbrigade.com/gallery works on Linux boxes but not Windows? Try clicking on this in a browser in Windows then in Linux. What's going on? [06:29] windoze sucks? try #windows and ask in there, we use Slackware in here [06:31] I think this issue is beyond just os! Oh noes! [06:32] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-108-200.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:37] my KDE Info Center doesn't show any Processor Information. What can be the problem? [06:37] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] foobarz, hm... that's strange, try uname -a and see if it shows there. [06:39] fraktil (~steve@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:40] Linux xeon 2.6.33.4 #7 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 10 23:34:42 ICT 2010 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3450 @ 2.67GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [06:40] KaMii: really? is this the best comment you can make? [06:41] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [06:42] foobarz, and it doesn't show? Try checking in root to see if it shows there. [06:43] stunix (1000@85.19.141.252) joined ##slackware. [06:43] groo (~groo@201-1-74-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:43] groo (~groo@201-1-74-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [06:44] risa: I can cat /proc/cpuninfo isn't that the source of the info? [06:45] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-145-118.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [06:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [06:46] foobarz, sure is, or should be iirc but I'm confused as to why it doesn't show for you either. [06:47] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-gmyiuraoqjntmovn) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Shows up for me. [06:49] /proc/cpuinfo [06:50] risa: are you using different browsers? [06:50] you don't provide enough information [06:50] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:51] popl, I do. [06:51] Axius (~fd@92.84.26.250) joined ##slackware. [06:51] It doesn't work in any of them under Windows but it does in Linux (hopefully, at least mine here). [06:51] risa: 'doesn't work' is probably the least helpful problem description ever [06:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-145-118.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:52] Clicking on the banner you won't be able to see any images. [06:53] lshal | grep -i cpu is supposed to show cpu information about each core/thread, but I am not seeing any [06:53] risa: i don't 'see any images' on firefox under linux [06:53] that is way KDE Info Center is blank on the processor information [06:53] s/way/why [06:53] risa: I see one image [06:54] Fixed. [06:54] Okay. [06:54] Cool, now I can get to uploading. [06:54] since the PCU info is coming via hal, do you have yourself in the plugdev group? [06:55] PCU/CPU [06:55] so it's your site, and you don't know how to debug basic issues, yet you blame entire os? [06:55] yes, I am in plugdev group [06:55] ananke, I didn't. I was just curious why it worked on mine but not others. [06:55] ananke: welcome to risa's brain [06:57] v4nelle (~van@78-182-60.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:57] here is an example of the cpu info in lshal: http://pastebin.com/yjw9NZuH (I do not get this info in my hal) I am slackware64-current. [06:58] quadcore? [06:58] foobarz, we have the exactly same model. [06:59] risa: but you see the information in lshal? [06:59] Yes. [07:00] hey guys [07:00] do i need to upgrade consolekit for kde 4.5.0 ? [07:01] phrag: i would say the answer is yes if its part of bob's set.. no if its not [07:01] not that thats a useful comment, but hey :) [07:01] risa: do you have /proc/acpi ? [07:02] =) [07:02] my instinct says yes anywayu [07:02] couldn't see it, but got a consolekit error after i upgraded [07:02] foobarz, yes. [07:02] orite [07:03] risa: that is deprecated, so I do not have it, but it may be my problem [07:03] Hm.. [07:03] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:04] Probably, but I wouldn't know how to fix that. [07:04] risa: it is just a kernel option in acpi support... I could enable it [07:04] foobarz, hope that's not too much trouble then. [07:05] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-135-81.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:14] shaker (~shaker@nat/yahoo/x-hnzcperujgubllex) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [08:16] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-84-181.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:16] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:20] root__ (~root@86.122.107.156) joined ##slackware. [08:20] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:21] The_Dude (~The_Dude@217.120.140.208) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Hey, I have a question. A friend called me with a problem. he wiped out his mbr with dd and asked if I can help him to recover his stuff. I alrady tried testdisk and gpart and both couldn't fins his partitions. I'm wondering if there's a way to locate the superblocks for each partition? [08:25] He might've wiped his partitions too... [08:26] risa, The data should still be on there, he just wiped his mbr so I'm trying to find a way to rebuild it manually so I thought of superblocks. [08:26] the partition table [08:27] So now the question is; is ther a way to find the superbocks without a partition table? [08:28] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:29] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [08:30] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:36] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-164-96.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:39] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:39] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.107) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:41] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:41] The_Dude (~The_Dude@217.120.140.208) left irc: Quit: Ik ga weg [08:43] hi guys [08:43] I need some help with this [08:43] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hmm enter trigger finger [08:44] ls -1 | cut 5 | xargs rm {} [08:44] I want to spare the top 5 [08:44] something like: ls -1 | cut -d '\n' | xargs rm -f {} [08:45] ofeck, head or tail. [08:45] stupid. [08:45] tail -n +6 [08:45] I knew this stuff. [08:45] :) [08:45] GooseYArd, my memory just needed a good kickstart :P [08:46] thats always how it works [08:46] thanks anyways! [08:46] i think it makes a strong case in favor of talking to yourself soemtimes [08:46] :) [08:46] johndee (~id@95-29-180-232.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:46] I'm not sure about the xargs tho. [08:46] I'll echo first. [08:48] bbroot (~root@86.122.107.156) joined ##slackware. [08:49] john_dee (~id@93-81-140-144.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:49] bbroot (root@86.122.107.156) left ##slackware. [08:50] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:50] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [08:50] risa (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: risa [08:51] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B69EE8.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [08:51] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [08:51] argh, what's wrong with this? touch `seq 1 9` && ls -1 | head 5 | xargs -I '{}' -s 10000 echo rm -f '{}' [08:53] doh [08:53] tail syntax fault. [08:54] v4nelle (~van@78-182-60.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:54] ls -1 | tail -n +5 | xargs -I '{}' rm -f '{}' [08:54] yeah, in that first example you were literally telling it to do a head on the file named "5" [08:56] root__ (~root@86.122.107.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:57] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [08:58] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-136.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] For ftp I keep getting that the max client is only 4, is there a way to fix that? [09:01] risah: is it your ftp server? [09:02] alisonken1home, I.. dunno.. I'm using nearlyfreespeech. [09:02] so you're trying to connect to another machine with ftp? [09:03] if it's you're server, then it's just a matter of upping the max=clients in the config file. if it's not you're server, then nothing much you can do [09:03] Hm I'm trying to use this pc to ftp to nearlyfreespeech's server. [09:03] Not much I can do huh. [09:04] I feel like stabbing a kitten then.. [09:04] nope - their server, so they have to fix it [09:04] Cheap bastards. THen again it's nearly free. :p [09:06] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [09:07] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:07] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [09:12] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B69EE8.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:16] Wulf-is-not-here (~ASTRO-PUN@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-xclxqrmiijkxwnhc) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:21] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [09:24] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [09:25] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:25] Running dvd-slideshow and it complains that there is a "Bad file descriptor: Line 897" See: http://pastebin.ca/1915726 [09:25] Not sure what to look for... [09:27] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) joined ##slackware. [09:27] if I want to run the current version of flash on slackware64, do I need to use nspluginwrapper and the 32bit linux flash? [09:28] probably [09:28] 64-bit flash 10.1 is MIA [09:31] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [09:32] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:34] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [09:34] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Client Quit [09:34] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:35] hello everyone [09:36] when I plug the headphones in my sound card nothing happens - sound still comes out of the speakers [09:36] anyone knows how to tackle this? [09:36] Kaapa: you should ask in ##alsa about this [09:36] check the volume on the headset and the sound mixer [09:37] Skywise: i belive it is alsa that doesnt pick up that the jack outlet has a switch [09:37] ic [09:38] it is costum on laptops that when the headphones are inserted the main speakers should switch off [09:38] it works out of the box on mine [09:38] I'd turn it off if mine did that [09:38] :P [09:39] actually i dont even think it *can* be turned off on mine [09:39] its the EC that does it [09:41] yeah... I guess it depends on the card [09:41] this happened before on an old laptop [09:41] until a kernel upgrade fixed it [09:42] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:42] I like manual control. I have multimedia keys, an IR remote, and other ways to turn on/off my speakers [09:43] does this site load? (won't load for me): http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/nspluginwrapper/ [09:45] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.49) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [09:49] chazbro (~chaz_broa@adsl-70-234-167-240.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB739.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] chazbro (chaz_broa@adsl-70-234-167-240.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [09:55] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:57] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:00] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249 expired. [10:00] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:00] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:00] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:00] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:01] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: risah [10:02] v4nelle (~van@78-182-60.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:03] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:05] delby (~chatzilla@bzq-79-181-14-55.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf still the file to use for an alsa model option for snd module? [10:08] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) joined ##slackware. [10:09] hello. is it better to install .tgz packages from repos, or simply download the original tarball of a package and install manually? [10:09] trhodes it worked !! thanks again [10:09] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [10:10] anyone here mess with ndiswrapper ..? [10:10] sorry, should have explained that i am completely new to slack and trying to understand how to manage it. [10:11] Guest86794 (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [10:12] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-3-119.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [10:12] risah (~riza@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] phrag any luck with davmail? [10:12] risah (~riza@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [10:12] risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [10:13] delby: depends on what you want. I recommend using all tgz/txz packages from official Slackware, but other than that I use slackbuilds (from slackbuilds.org) as much as possible. If you're less worried about your systems (or happen to trust other repos), feel free to use them [10:14] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:14] My choice is because I don't mind the slight overhead of compiling but want everything in a package I can easily uninstall too. Your optimal choice depends on what you like.. :) [10:15] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:15] compiling isn't that bad really, just reserve 1gb of ram, mount it as tmpfs on /tmp, setup ccache/distcc (assuming you use the same compiler everywhere). [10:16] uh.. erm.. ugh.. WHAT? [10:16] oh, and compile on /tmp, unless you have an sdd lying around (but I wouldn't compile on it)... [10:16] Lexiiee^19 (Chief__@41.236.14.96) joined ##slackware. [10:17] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:18] My builds seldomly go over 1gb... even the kernel. [10:18] but if you like seeing your build die half-way, go with less. [10:19] Okay, I never felt any need whatsoever in doing anything else than just run the slackbuild and let Linux handle memory management and disk cache as it sees fit. But then my computer is only 1-2 years old. I never had compiling take more time than I could rather comfortably wait for. [10:20] Aldaron, you must be young and unencumbered with a mortgage :P [10:20] Buggaboo: 28 and sadly encumbered [10:21] but really, only a couple of sbo compiles took more than a few minutes, and I mostly compile stuff once, then install and use [10:21] oh. hm. Okay, we're different. [10:21] Aldaron, ever tried that on the kernel? [10:22] Action: Buggaboo admits he turned on every damn module he can find... [10:22] Buggaboo: no, I haven't met a valid reason for compiling a kernel since last millennium or something ;) [10:22] lamah (~ghost@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:2820:21a8:b1a5:8e93) joined ##slackware. [10:22] Maybe we are different [10:22] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.85.70) joined ##slackware. [10:22] omfg, there are a lot more interesting junk nowadays in the new kernel, virtualization, fs... etc. [10:23] hi all... [10:23] i am installing frist windows on my hdd with default partitions on installation i think primary for system 100mb and primary for 500gb hdd, then i have installing the linux extended/primary 80gb for native and 20gb for swap, and finally i am trying to install freebsd 80gb for native bsd and 20gb for swap but it gives me cannot overwrite to X /dev/X is not found it creates /dev/X not /dev/sdXsX [10:23] (the name of partition), that is the prob? [10:23] something with limit of primary/logical partitions but i cannot understand how to install linux/freebsd and windows [10:23] who can help [10:23] maybe with partitions/limit/*disk... [10:23] lamah, seperate, /home and / and swap. [10:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: [10:23] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:23] at least. [10:24] '/' works with 10gb. [10:24] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:24] Buggaboo: I can wait (actually, I need to pay the mortgage and my work does not involve virtualization or other interesting new kernel junk :) [10:24] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:24] I recommend at least 20gb for /, good to have room for growth [10:24] Buggaboo: what? [10:24] Aldaron, ah, my job doesn't either (not really), but at home I'm trying to setup a music studio built on open sores tools. [10:24] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Buggaboo: yea :). Installing Audacity is what I need for my "studio" ;). Most of my time I'm programming as a hobby - Ogre3d was probably the heaviest thing I compiled [10:28] Aldaron: Buggaboo: thanx. sorry, was away for a min. where can i find packages from official slackware? [10:28] I see that imagination-2.1-i486-1as.txz is available for 13.0 [10:28] .... but not for 13.1 [10:28] :( [10:29] delby: on CDs or DVD if you have that, in ftp mirrors if not. Also check extras/ and testing/ directories. (really, if you're somewhat of a normal user, installing all packages from the start is a good idea) [10:29] delby, try your local ftp , rsync server. [10:30] terry_: dont use packages from untrusted repositories [10:30] google: intitle:index.of slackware 13.1 [10:30] i am planning to install on old pc so trying to keep it slim and fast. [10:31] Aldaron, I'm busy learning ardour2 [10:31] I like hydrogen, reminds me of fruity loops. [10:32] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Buggaboo: ohh, that really seems nice! [10:32] delby: how old? What's the size of the harddisk? [10:32] delby, or google: inurl:.yourtld slackware 13.1 [10:32] yourtld being ehm... your country's tld. [10:32] delby: in any case, install all the libraries lest problems hit thee ;) [10:32] lamah (ghost@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:2820:21a8:b1a5:8e93) left ##slackware. [10:33] can u guys help me installing wine? when i do ./tools/wineinstall give error:configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries. [10:33] i use 64 bit [10:33] can someone help me? [10:33] candinho, you need to use alienBOB's crosscompiler mojo. [10:33] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:33] candinho: http://slackwiki.org/Multilib [10:34] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:34] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:34] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [10:34] o. [10:34] yeah try thoes. [10:35] ty guys [10:36] it is better i install 32 bit linux in my 64 bit notebook? [10:36] just keep in mind you need to reinstall your graphics drivers, and you need to use nvidia's/ati's own installer for that, not a slackbuild script. [10:36] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [10:37] candinho: well, if you don't know you like 64bit, and don't mind installing 64-bit in a couple of years, then 32-bit is the easier one [10:38] Aldaron: hd is ok its 80gb, but its piii and 256 ram. [10:38] (no need to mess with multilib -easier. Although there's also no need if you don't care about wine, google earth and such.) [10:40] delby: In my opinion you don't need to care about *installing* lots of stuff - just don't enable all kinds of crap by default ;). Choose some light window manager for use (xfce maybe). Also if you can find a memory update easily and cheaply, that'd probably be a very very efficient upgrade :) [10:40] v4nelle (~van@78-182-60.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:40] i will try make my linux compatible with 32 bit too :) [10:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-74-236.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [10:44] my laptop is still 64-bit only, and it took many months for me to find I want 32-bit on desktop [10:45] but that depends entirely on your need [10:45] Aldaron: thanx. will probably do a few installs and see how goes. thanks all for your help. [10:47] Hm how can one tell what the max subnet is? [10:47] Or is there one for all? [10:48] Destructo (41585838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.88.88.56) joined ##slackware. [10:48] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [10:48] rauz_ (~rauz@arctic.loop0.org) joined ##slackware. [10:48] well thats great .. now my pcmcia wireless adapter doesnt show up when i do iwconfig .. [10:48] hi [10:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:49] anybody installed ltsp-5 on slackware ? [10:50] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [10:50] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:52] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Quit: Meow, meOUT! [10:52] Guest33915 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Quit: #shellium | muillehs# [10:55] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [10:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. 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[11:08] rauz_: you could try #ltsp, but chances are you'll find more people using other distros for ltsp [11:09] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Srbo (~Srbo@p4FE90D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:11] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [11:12] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] allend (~allend@CPE-58-165-46-203.lns1.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:12] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Changing host [11:12] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [11:12] alright, got nspluginwrapper going using alien's slackbuild... but for it to work, you have to add /usr/lib/seamonkey to /etc/ld.so.conf and need seamonkey-solibs-compat32 ... not bad [11:13] hey, how do i change ownership on /dev/sdc1? [11:14] ikar: that will involve a udev rule I believe [11:15] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [11:15] Srbo (~Srbo@p4FE90D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:15] hey guys, having trouble with sound on this dell laptop [11:15] Srbo (~Srbo@p4FE90D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:15] i've ran alsaconf, detects my card and adds module... but no device can access the device [11:16] foobarz, ok, iæll try googling udev rule then :) [11:16] ikar: a rule like, KERNEL=sdc1, MODE="0660" or whatever [11:16] permissions look ok, device root:audio, and user in audio group [11:16] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:16] ikar: a rule like, KERNEL==sdc1, MODE="0660" or whatever [11:16] ananke: thx will try there [11:16] foobarz: ok, thanks [11:17] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) [11:17] Axius (~fd@92.82.82.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:17] ikar: hehe... OWNER="someuser" ... you got the idea [11:17] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.147) joined ##slackware. [11:18] foobarz, yes :P [11:19] wierd [11:19] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:20] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:20] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:21] phrag: i have had a also some troube with the same audio controler build alsa as kernel module and now it works just fine kernel 2.6.33 [11:23] phrag: maybe you need a model option to snd-hda-intel [11:24] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.120.205) joined ##slackware. [11:26] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-245-172.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:29] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:29] Lexiiee^19 (Chief__@41.236.14.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:30] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:32] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:35] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. 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[11:53] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [11:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-36-32.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:56] Does using host.allow and host.deny actually slow down networking? [11:56] im having some major problems with slackware constantly corrupting harddrives [11:57] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [11:57] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:57] ... How is Slackware corrupting hard drives? [11:57] I just rebooted and now my external 250 gb hdd is being reported that the partition table is corrupt and fsck will not even run [11:57] Ouch. [11:57] I highly doubt that's a Slackware problem. [11:57] I have no idea, but this is the third HDD in 2 weeks [11:57] More like failing drives. Or you just aren't handling it right. [11:58] the chances that I lose three HDDs in two weeks due to the same exact error is suspicious [11:58] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:58] its not me thats handling them wrong. unless the shutdown -r now is not properly unmouting drives [11:59] KaMii: I hade one do that the other day and I DID unmount it before disconnecting [11:59] but arfon why is this happening to me? [11:59] what can I do? [12:00] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:00] bad karma ;) [12:00] three separate drives in two weeks, two internal one external [12:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-133-84.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:01] i find this to be highly suspicious [12:01] and I never started losing drives until I upgraded to 13.1 [12:02] I don't know KaMii, when you find out, let me know... that WAS my backup data which is now probably gone. :( [12:02] I've been trying to recover it with testdisk... no luck sofar [12:02] all I did was rebuild my kernel using the same settings as before, then I booted into it. Now that drive is dead [12:03] KaMii: dmesg spitting out something? [12:03] that was the drive that had WoW on it, and WoW takes about 4 hour to reinstall, I really dont want to go through that long process again [12:03] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [12:04] unknown partition table [12:04] wrong size of status block [12:04] sounds like your drive is actually dead , which has nothing to do with the kernel [12:05] ya.... that chances of that happening again, are too high for it to be hardware [12:05] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) joined ##slackware. [12:05] KaMii: check your backup blocks... I forgot the command [12:05] I did [12:05] it wouldnt let me [12:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:05] Testdisk may recover... (there's a slackbuild) [12:05] haha& never to high to be hardware, especially considering you're dealing with a volatile magnetic storage system [12:06] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:06] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [12:06] fine... I blame background radiation, because we have tons of it here in Sweden [12:06] Did you jar the drive while it was operating? Bouncing heads wreak havoc. [12:06] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:07] Stupid Chernobyl! [12:07] no, I never touch the drive, it sits on my desk and never moves [12:07] Chernobyl is in Belarus [12:07] the radiation still affected the world :p [12:07] Ukraine? [12:08] hahahahahahahahahahashah http://gizmodo.com/5610087 [12:08] KaMii: Chernobyl (Tschernobyl) is in the Ukraine [12:09] that pic could have been made by me, jeev [12:09] ok i admit i laughed too much for the pic [12:09] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:09] you've got all those ? [12:09] for gnome lovers: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626593 [12:10] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [12:10] jeev, too much of them darn converters, yes [12:10] in theory drivers should work. in practise most do, but the fun starts if you combine them and push the whole construct to the limit. [12:10] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:11] one of reagen's old guys blames G.O.P. over the economy. sexy [12:11] allend (~allend@CPE-58-165-46-203.lns1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:11] jg71, imagine how slow the transfer will be lol [12:11] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:11] ive had my fun with eth over usb. [12:11] KaMii: If testdisk doesn't work, a friend suggested that I try Foremost to try and recover that data. I haven't looked into it yet [12:11] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:11] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Why doesn't someone write a portable-drive friendly fs? [12:12] jeev: hey sweety :-D [12:13] macavity, thought you were dead [12:13] so did he, jeev [12:13] cats have nine lives... still 8 to go :P [12:13] i didn't know you were a cat [12:13] a copy con cat even [12:14] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:14] jeev: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macavity [12:14] jg71: worse.. i have even been acused of breaking the law of gravity :P [12:15] Ma Baker. Ma Cavity is a private issue. [12:15] Action: jg71 stops now, ok ok [12:15] lol [12:16] macavity: http://en.wiki.../Wonderful [12:16] on a sidenote, that book title is awesome. [12:16] isBEKaml (keml@122.174.120.205) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:16] the musical made over is one of the biggest theater successes of all time [12:16] macavity should be based on "the little engine that barely could" [12:17] macavity, you talk about the musical like you were behind all of it [12:17] ok.... ill keep that in mind next time you mention something you like... [12:17] Hm.. [12:18] So BINDS is behind all this. [12:18] bind rather. [12:18] no, risah, risahfs is. not your BINDS&M thing [12:19] Action: risah thanks jg71 with a big smile. [12:19] :)... [12:21] Buggaboo (~Buggab00@sc-106.r-213-125-7.schoolconnect.nu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:21] t0mm13b_ (t0mm13b@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [12:21] lotec (~lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Nick change: t0mm13b_ -> t0mm13b [12:23] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [12:23] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [12:24] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] anyone with PM logs from cpunches or bagira, please send them to phraggins@gmail.com, thanks [12:25] why does testdrive want me to reboot after looking at an external HDD? [12:25] phrag: ok, what has he done this time? [12:25] if you know your client logs PM's, please check from when he was spamming the channel [12:25] macavity: gathering evidence still =) [12:26] ahhh.. preparing for "Da Foot of Chrunch" are we? :P [12:26] just to support our case of spamming our users [12:26] he hasnt spammed me.. only attempted identity dodge and sock puppetry [12:26] KaMii: wtf is testdrive ? [12:26] notarandomnick (cc0b1b4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.27.79) joined ##slackware. [12:27] I think you're not reading everything KaMii, it didn't ask me to do that [12:27] Action: phrag off for a pint [12:27] have a good one lads =) [12:27] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [12:28] arfon: testdrive worked [12:28] got my drive back [12:28] data still intact I think... hope [12:28] Hello all. In the php.SlackBuild script php_configure is called multiple times. Does a subsequent call append to the configure or what? I'm not sure how or why it's called multiple times. Any ideas? [12:28] what would cause the partition table to become all insane like that? [12:28] notarandomnick: ##slackbuilds if noone here can answer :-) [12:29] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:29] macavity: I'll give that a try next. Thanks [12:29] YAY!!!!!! [12:29] phrag, are you going to send the evidence to interpol ? [12:29] Send me some of that testdrive mojo please... my drive is still hosed [12:30] the demigods of the internet =P [12:30] aka freenode staff :P [12:30] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B69EE8.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:30] brb I have to reboot my rounter or something, oh arfon wow is working again, [12:30] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.23.47.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:30] I thought he already pissed the freenode guys off at him? [12:31] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] he seems to have a very special talent there :P [12:31] I read through his chat logs on his website... the guy is crazy [12:32] however, if he has phrag trailing him, it could very very well be that he is in for his "final departure" from freenode [12:32] What did you do to get WoW working K? [12:32] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:32] editing an ini file to select OpenGL instead of DX iirc [12:32] phrag'd by phrag? That's gotta hurt [12:33] i belive wine handles the rest pretty fine these days [12:33] s4lv4d0r (1000@200.90.85.70) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:34] Was that an answer to my WoW q, macavity ? [12:34] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:34] yup [12:35] http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_functionality_on_Wine [12:35] I wonder why the ini file changed...? [12:35] oh, you had it working? [12:36] and did some or other, and now it is defunct? [12:36] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [12:36] KaMii had it working then it died after a kernel pacth. [12:36] patch [12:36] im back [12:37] So I'm wondering how K, got it working again. [12:37] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B79A8E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] the kernel patch did not get applied properly the first time I compiled the kernel [12:38] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Ah, so a recompile fixed it? [12:38] was it a patch to some graphical subsystem? [12:40] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-4-240.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] arfon: [12:41] so I rebooted my router, now my desktop wont go online [12:41] did you dhcpcd eth0? [12:41] but i have a valid IP address from my router, and it mounted my nfs [12:41] I just cant go out [12:41] dhcpcd eth0 [12:42] why does everything break [12:42] Life is hard K [12:42] dhcpcd is already running [12:43] ...wait for it.... wait for it.... [12:43] i think my rounter now just broke it was giving me huge problems, so I rebooted it [12:43] KaMii: is that a cheep semi-oldish linksys? [12:43] If it is fsck'd, you may try resetting it to factory defaults (hold the reset button down for 10 sec).... [12:44] if so, fetch software updates NOW [12:44] no its an even cheaper D-link [12:44] better check [12:44] the botnet that consists of compromised mipsel based routers is growing every day because people never update them [12:44] i already have one of them die on my, the store would not let me upgrade to another model, they just gave me a replacement [12:45] Action: arfon hates dlink [12:45] and pwning half a million 200mhz machines is apparently lucrative to rogue individuals [12:45] Guest36902 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [12:45] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] I SEEK GNOSIS. [12:46] shellium? [12:46] WHO HERE CAN DELIVER? [12:46] They are trying to win the distributed.net contest.... [12:46] cen___: ditch the AOL/lolcat jargon, and maybe we will share our knowledge and insight with you ;-) [12:46] :) [12:47] I cometh seeking Bob to deliver me slack. [12:47] I can haz jargon? [12:47] cen___: http://www.slackware.com/getslack [12:47] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:47] easy! [12:48] I want actual slack, not Linux. [12:48] it is "Bob" and not Bob.. Bob without the ""s is considered unworthy of such a high ranking demigod [12:48] think of the quotes as a kind of halo :P [12:48] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) left irc: Quit: Odcházím [12:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB739.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: bbl [12:49] I annotate linux demigods thusly: {{{{{Patrick}}}}} [12:50] notarandomnick (cc0b1b4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.11.27.79) left ##slackware. [12:50] heh :P [12:50] tenfn (tt@unaffiliated/samuel9999) joined ##slackware. [12:50] You see, I'm on a quest. [12:50] Did you bring a Vorpal Blade? [12:50] A quest that involves hacking reality, having sex with wonderful women, and solving P vs NP. [12:51] I am afraid I did not. [12:51] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Is this Melinios? [12:51] or whatever his nick was...? [12:52] arfon: he's not very bright, in any case. [12:52] :) [12:52] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B69EE8.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:53] lotec (~lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:53] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:53] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:53] arfon: can I msg you [12:54] Sure [12:54] WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT? [12:54] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B664CC.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:55] I'm not sure how to answer that risah, there's been several conversations [12:56] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:56] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [12:56] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-133-84.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:57] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) joined ##slackware. [12:57] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:58] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:58] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [12:58] Vorpal blade? P vs NP SOLVED?!??? Demigods?! What?! [12:59] P vs NP cannot be solved! [12:59] Sure it can. [12:59] I just need more LSD. [12:59] It must not be! For I fear for crypto if it does1 [12:59] Psh, have you not read?! [12:59] Action: risah steps away from the keyboard in fear of slackboy. [13:00] It has a million dollar bounty and I need money to slack. [13:00] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] It does but I need the money too. [13:01] FOR THE GREATER GOOD! JOIN THE NRA! [13:01] If you are female then we can share the money and sleep with eachother. [13:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:02] I rather not sleep with you. I already have someone. [13:02] Very special too. Like permanent bondage. Almost. [13:02] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) left irc: Client Quit [13:03] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [13:03] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [13:03] any reason why irssi would stop loading scritps? [13:03] OOoooo.. lunch time... BBL! [13:03] /script nameofscript.pl is not working [13:03] KaMii, hm what exactly are you doing that's cuasing all these strange problems you are getting? [13:03] well, it's /script load [13:03] all my scripts are located in ~/.irssi/scripts [13:04] Afternoon trhodes. [13:04] hey risah [13:04] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] i dont know, the world hates me [13:04] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) left irc: Client Quit [13:05] the world see you quit and does nothing. [13:05] Action: jg71 nods [13:05] Hm this homework assignment wants me to download the latest version of source binary for bind. [13:05] My job wants me to work. [13:06] http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.7.1-P2/bind-9.7.1-P2.tar.gz [13:06] cen___, what major are you when you went to college? [13:06] I dropped out of highschool and made Multiplayer Ocarina of Time. [13:06] Uh huh, sure you did. [13:06] Apparently this was good enough for me to get a high paying job. [13:06] Somehow. [13:06] I sure did. [13:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJFuriF5Mao&feature=related [13:07] I don't believe the hs dropout part. [13:07] I believe the other part. [13:07] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:08] I have no paper whatsoever. [13:08] Uh huh. [13:08] What state you in? [13:08] NY(C). [13:08] Strange. Me too. [13:09] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Ah well. [13:09] I'm a drug addicted hacker who is working for a medical imaging company. [13:09] That's even more farfetched. [13:09] Sounds like Neuromancer. [13:09] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:09] I can set up a webcam on my endoscope if you'd really like. [13:10] Nope. [13:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Perhaps you are the Razorgirl. [13:11] I am not. [13:11] is that the William Gibson reference? [13:11] thumbs, he's been making it. [13:13] As I said, I come here seeking Gnosis. [13:13] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [13:13] This is the largest prime my algorithm has spit out so far, Razorgirl: 1032072051468971. [13:14] WHAT DOES IT MEAN?! [13:14] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Boring. [13:14] I am going back to my studies. [13:14] Solving P vs NP is boring but economical. [13:15] A million dollars will afford me a lot of drugs. [13:16] hi, sheer curiosity: are there vimers have ruby *not* installed? [13:16] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:16] adrien, you're a pico user. [13:16] cen___, drugs are bad. [13:16] Drugs are the answer to questions that cannot be asked in an effable state of mind. [13:17] cen___: solve P vs. NP and I'll pay for your drug myself [13:17] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [13:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:19] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:19] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) left irc: Client Quit [13:21] Sufis tend to do drugs to connect to the higher Godhead. [13:22] FAREWELL MY NEW FOUND FRIENDS, I AM GOING ON A QUEST TO OBTAIN LUNCH. [13:27] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-205-210-200.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) joined ##slackware. [13:32] is it as difficult as it looks to change ownership of a partition in Linux? [13:32] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [13:33] ok i cannot figure this out.... how can I get irssi to connect to a new server but open it in a new window [13:33] it keeps connecting in window 1 but I do not have the option to communicate with that server, I am still stuck on freenode [13:34] use ctrl+x [13:34] so I canont go into rooms or even identify into the other server because all my commands are going to freenode [13:34] thanks a lot! [13:34] np [13:34] artvdroid (~androirc@8.sub-97-136-233.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] it use to open it into a new window now its not doing it anymore [13:34] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) joined ##slackware. [13:34] never seen that [13:35] but ctrl+x works [13:35] I want to change a partitions ownership...is making a udev rule the only way to change ownership on a hdd? [13:36] tenfn (tt@unaffiliated/samuel9999) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [13:39] ikar: it sounds like you are up to a missnormer.. could you tell what you want to accomplish instead? [13:40] yes, i want read & write access to /dev/sdc1 Now i only got read access [13:41] theres always /etc/fstab [13:41] i think that does stuff [13:41] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-157-29.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] ok, i'll try fstab [13:42] bacal (~default@cpe-67-49-157-29.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-205-210-200.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:47] ikar (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:49] Hm how can I get better with DNS and bind stuff? [13:49] This course I'm getting feels... insufficient. [13:49] theres not much to it [13:50] Oh.. I thought there were entire volumes of books written to it. [13:50] you make record files and a config files and that pretty much it [13:50] Really? [13:50] Whoa.. [13:50] maybe, but they can't say much [13:50] My mind just blew.. [13:50] i have effect sometimes [13:50] er that [13:51] Haha, well you've done it before. [13:51] Now we are up to sendmail.. two whole chapter. Wow. [13:51] sendmail is complex, but i like it [13:51] Then alias, then webservers. [13:51] as a rule of thumb, you should only edit .mc files not .cf files [13:52] risah: what book are you reading ? [13:52] .cf files should be generated [13:52] deco, college course. [13:52] risah: oh okay [13:52] Online class from University of Illinois. [13:52] Axius (~fd@109.97.39.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:52] cool [13:52] Then sed, awk, perl, and um.. there are more but wow. [13:52] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] now sed and awk are deep voodoo [13:53] I heard that. [13:53] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [13:53] Action: deco is learning perl :p [13:53] Action: ashtif is learning to learn [13:53] regex foo. bar dropped dead once, no cat involved, lotsa awk squeeking afterwards. ... dun dun dun [13:53] thats a good first step [13:54] Axius (~fd@109.97.45.64) joined ##slackware. [13:54] Okay I gotta add primary zone info for some website, then.. hm.. [13:54] compmstr (~compmstr@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Then I must determine what two things must be changed for a new host (separate project). Hoo boy, sounds hard as hell. [13:55] cool [13:55] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [13:55] nah, its easy especially when they ask for 2 [13:55] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:55] forward and reverse dns [13:55] D:... [13:55] for the A record [13:55] But specifically waht file. [13:55] Don't tell me. I go read. [13:55] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [13:55] yeah, especially since i don't get any credit [13:56] Then I'll wait for my professor to grade all the stuff we already have. [13:56] Then I go and learn new words for my language... then um.. math.. then um... that's three stuff in a day, I should get a massage from you Skywise. You'l get credit for that. [13:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:56] I am trying to use a sony memory stick. I have built the memstick module and modprobed it.... no dice, nothing in dmesg,. any advice [13:57] Hm, how is it connected? Via usb? [13:57] how could i refuse an offer like that [13:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-204-3-62.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] risah, built in to a laptop. probably usb? [13:57] hiptobecubic, I'd see if it is though, via usb, cause then you might be able to open it there. [13:58] lsusb and all. [13:58] risah, nothing. and the activity light doesn't blink on the reader. It also reads sd cards using mmc, that works fine [13:58] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Hm I am not sure, sorry. When I plug in mine it works automatically. [14:00] And I returned! [14:00] I'm sure you all missed me, and every bit of my incoherency. [14:00] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [14:01] Skywise, may I ask if you have any cert or degree? [14:01] yes [14:01] Risah, are you more math or more programming? [14:01] Well do ya? [14:01] cen___, both. [14:01] Thurin1 (~amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:01] i duz [14:01] Set theory and Islam, do you understand how they interlope? [14:01] cen___, .... [14:02] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-144-66.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:02] compmstr (~compmstr@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:02] Skywise, duz? [14:02] ;_; [14:02] bsee and i got alot of certs outta college but nothing since [14:02] Oh... [14:02] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:02] Any of them CCIE? Or.. um.. similar like LPI? [14:03] oh noez [14:03] risah, can you lsmod and see what modules are needed? [14:03] this was way back in the 90s [14:03] i thought it was just memstick... [14:03] usbhid 33016 0 hid 61027 1 usbhid [14:03] i was a ms certified vendor until 2000 [14:03] hiptobecubic, that's what I have when I grep usb. [14:03] Skywise, you are a permanent MCP, no? [14:04] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [14:04] but then i didn't feel like collecting their cds anymore [14:04] ah, i forgot about ikar again [14:04] risah, hmm. alright thanks [14:05] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [14:05] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] howdy [14:05] prolly, but i was just something you pay for [14:05] howdy :-) [14:05] macavity, i like ice cream [14:05] Howdy macdaddy [14:05] those cert programs are funny tho [14:06] they're as bad as the patent industy [14:06] How come? [14:06] jeev: most kids do... [14:06] really [14:06] awesome, i'm a kid then! [14:07] stating the obvious are we? :P [14:07] i have 2, and the way you find out you've been awarded a patent is that all the plaque makers in the world send you junk mail to congratulate you and offer a chance to buy a plaque with your crap on it [14:07] i didn't know. [14:07] Um, jeev, I don't think that's what he means... [14:07] Skywise, o.o..... [14:07] arfon, that is what he means [14:07] I could be wrong [14:07] It happens once in a awhile [14:08] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:08] Risah, let's be internet friends. [14:08] My AIM is MISSINGNO. [14:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:09] cen___, what? Why? [14:09] Because maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about, if you bothered to listen. [14:09] ... :| [14:10] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:10] no lewd remarks before you at least know someone [14:10] cen___ is is just a semitroll :P [14:10] is that like a semicolon? [14:10] ashtif (~ashtif@dsl51B664CC.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:12] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Action: arfon is let down thatsome sort of a$$ retort hasn't been made in reply. [14:13] technically speaking, i think the name "semicolon" is a misnormer [14:13] he just had lunch and is prolly logy [14:13] it should be a "commacolon" :P [14:13] Axius (~fd@109.97.45.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:13] aarchvil1 (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:13] the fusion of a comma and a colon.. not something that is almost a colon [14:13] then a colon should be dot to [14:13] aarchvil1 (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] Why not coloncomma? [14:13] Axius (~fd@92.85.219.67) joined ##slackware. [14:13] aarchvil1 (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:14] macavity: ok... 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[14:19] macavity: no [14:19] ah.. i c [14:19] macavity: trying to get my electric bill paid [14:20] guys [14:20] how can I make $a = $i + 1 [14:20] in bash ? [14:20] BP{k}: that was a tab fail on top of the irssi fail [14:20] You assign $a and $i to something of numeric value. [14:21] I have balue of $i = 0 [14:21] nyRednek: nope, still ssh/lag fail. [14:21] and now have to add 1 to it [14:22] mac-: the people in #bash has always been kind to help me [14:22] $(($i+1)) should work [14:22] mac-: but remember that bash deals with strings [14:22] thanks [14:22] macavity: that's what i was thinking...that any value in bash was a string [14:22] mac-: i *think* it has some tricks for interger operations, but he syntax is likely to be kludgy [14:23] mac-: but the easiest way is to hand things like that to bc [14:23] telperion (Adium@190.25.119.223) left ##slackware. [14:23] like FUBAR=$(bc $i + 1) [14:24] also, you dont reference vars with the $ when you assign to them [14:24] can't you just increment $i and do $a = $i++ [14:24] that is how you distinguish between assignment and comparison in bash [14:24] Skywise: bash != C ;-) [14:25] oh well then no point in asking about == either [14:25] shellscripting is easy to read.. and hard to write (at first) [14:25] $((...)) will do basic maths as well, it's not exactly intuitive syntax though [14:25] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:26] macavity, actually bash supports ++$i and $i++ [14:26] lafille (~lafille@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] thats pre increment and post increment [14:27] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-4-240.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:27] neat [14:27] i nead to read bash(1) *again* [14:27] FUBAR=$(bc $i + 1) <-- that looks so wrong :) [14:27] bash is an os unto itself [14:28] BP{k}: my bc-fu is totally borken [14:28] macavity: and bash fu? :P [14:28] FUBAR=$(($i+1)) [14:28] $i++ [14:28] there it was [14:29] the double ((s :P [14:29] BP{k}: yes.. i have never used bash for anything but compile scripts and the like [14:29] KaMii (~nebulae@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [14:29] i can't figure out how that increment is supposed to work [14:29] i typically co-op and hack scripts others have written and rarely do anything from scratch [14:30] (post increment) [14:30] all i get is variable expansion, not arithmetic evaluation [14:30] if you want the value to increase after evaluation for instance in a while [14:30] FUBAR=$i++ ; echo $FUBAR will give me 1++ (for values of i=1) [14:30] squeezy (~squeezy@89.204.153.233) joined ##slackware. [14:30] the post increment operator is under the arithmetic evaluation section [14:31] so is the pre [14:31] oic [14:31] Axius (~fd@92.85.219.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:32] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:32] hmm, declare -i makes a variable an integer [14:32] vinegaroon (~sam@203-184-20-213.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:33] ok, works within $(( )) [14:33] macavity: I have done some weird bash scripts doing backups and various task usually involving arrays and other dark arts. [14:33] neat :) [14:33] BP{k}: and now you can't read it again? ;-) [14:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@184-204-3-62.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:35] adrien: HAHAHA shaddup. [14:35] ... yes ;) [14:35] BP{k}: just tell me how to make multi dimentional arrays in bash.. that was the last show stopper for me :P [14:35] nophis__ (~nophis@187.102.98.113) joined ##slackware. [14:35] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [14:36] artvdroid (~androirc@8.sub-97-136-233.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [14:37] BP{k}: I wrote one script using arrays too once, I had completely forgotten about it and when I opened it again, I was like "I knew bash arrays at some points?": couldn't remember *anything* ;-) [14:38] nophis_ (~nophis@187.102.98.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:38] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] nooper (~nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) joined ##slackware. [14:42] isn't a bash array just ${array[#]}? [14:42] arfon: one dimensional, yes. [14:43] I don't think bash can do multidimensional... [14:43] Perl on the other hand.... [14:47] hmmm, the nvidia installer only overwrites files from mesa or others too? [14:48] its easy enough to simulate multi dimensional arrays tho [14:48] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [14:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-144-170.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:51] MySQL? :) [14:51] arfon: i think my isp is having problems [14:51] no, you just do it yourself [14:52] for (j,k) its j*size of array + k for the address of each element of the array [14:53] Mine certainly is... [14:53] LAAAG [14:53] sometimes it takes 2 minutes for a webpage to load [14:53] started happening last night [14:54] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-109-90-26-187.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [14:54] is it DSL? [14:54] this happened once before and the isp lost an ip server and everone in town was complaining for a week [14:54] fiber [14:54] My lag is usually erros on the DSL. [14:54] errors [14:54] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Quit: hoobop [14:54] lag on dsl [14:55] if you have two nameservers listed in resolv.conf, you may wait forever on the first one to time out [14:55] thats unbelieveable [14:55] thats a common one [14:55] Phazey (~Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:55] yeah true [14:55] Hey gniks Sup? [14:55] try changing them [14:55] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-109-90-26-187.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:55] well, its doing this on all my computers [14:55] You're funny Skywise :) [14:55] Phazey: ? [14:55] gniks: -- Cruciphix. [14:55] and i reset my router and tried everything [14:55] KaMii: yeah but you're probably using the same resolvers on all of them [14:55] ah ok [14:56] no [14:56] Sup gniks? [14:56] they are all different [14:56] Phazey: PM me [14:56] what do your ping times look like KaMii ? [14:57] meaning: are they bouncing around or fairly constant? [14:57] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [14:57] corracaminos (laguilar@190.241.113.34) joined ##slackware. [14:57] actually, KaMii, go to http://dslreports.com/tweaktest [14:57] run that and then look at the detailed info [14:58] my resolve.conf lists my router [14:58] KaMii: always keep 8.8.8.8 as a handy backup [14:58] try your isp's dns servers [14:58] I use 4.2.2.2 [14:58] ...as a backup [14:59] good.. its not nice to peg the master records for you everyday intarwebbing :P [14:59] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [14:59] do you have to reset something after chaning resolve.conf? [15:00] resolv.conf!! [15:00] DNSmasq first, ISP primary 2nd, ISP secondary 3rd and 4.2.2.2 last [15:00] macavity, is that a joke? 8.8.8.8 [15:00] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.245) joined ##slackware. [15:00] risah: it is googles public DNS server [15:00] 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 belongs to google [15:00] Nice thing to know, TY macavity [15:01] Really? Whoa.. [15:01] i thought google was 6.6.6.6 [15:01] nokia3510 (~nokia@fedora/nokia3510) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:01] All your dns belong to google [15:01] No, that's Hell' [15:01] s dns [15:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-144-170.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:02] i dont want to sound like a sinner :-p... but is there a detailed how-to to upgrade /only/ kde on slackware? [15:02] since TPB has been blocked at the DNS level on most ISPs here in Denmark, i have become quite familiar with the alternatives [15:02] but do I need to reset something after changing resolv.conf? [15:02] to make it activate? [15:02] njathan: take the KDE slackbuild and build to your heats contend [15:03] Don't think so KaMii [15:03] njathan: attempting to upgrade KDE only with packages from the next slackware release or -current is almost certain to give you problems (if not outright segfaults) [15:03] njathan: you can find it in the source/ dir on your local ftp mirror [15:04] kde.SlackBuild [15:04] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B79A8E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:05] talking about which.. i haven't even gotten around to upgrading to 13.1 yet [15:05] lets fetch the changelog and see what goodies we get [15:06] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:07] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B79A8E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:08] Lag it BAD, gonna relog [15:08] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:09] macavity, what should i expect to go wrong? Is there a cascading list of dependencies that i might have to upgrade along with kde? [15:10] i am just trying to guess how bad or complicated can it get... [15:11] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] someone say something... [15:11] njathan: i can *only* reccomend that you either check if alienBOB has recent kde packages for you slackware version, or roll your own [15:11] njathan: really.. [15:11] TY [15:12] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:12] njathan: worst case scenario: kde is compiled against a newer glibc and set of kernel headers and refuse to start because of some missing feature [15:12] Super awesome. [15:12] My boss decided to play telephone man and try to rewire our switch while we were all using the internet. [15:12] Just to figure out how it is set up, of course. [15:13] Patch panel, rather [15:13] It's like "hey im makin smooth moves on risah --- wait where did my internet go" [15:14] Sounds like devine intervention to me... [15:15] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-106-66.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.245) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:20] what is the name of the tool what can show some fonts in X and give you a reading like [15:20] * * terminus * 12 * 24 * etc [15:21] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] a font browser [15:23] there is a little gui tool [15:23] i cannot remember the name [15:24] google can [15:24] xfontsel [15:24] yessssssssss [15:24] thats the one!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:24] thanks :D [15:24] haha yw [15:24] Action: dustybin awards trhodes 500 points [15:25] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:26] xfontself is quite buggy however [15:26] -*-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* :D [15:26] Action: dustybin feels really excited [15:26] i3 [15:26] whoops wrong window [15:27] cen___ (cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [15:27] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN. [15:27] I knew it'd have to get rough, but not this fast. [15:28] If anyone cares, here's a bash script I wrote to simplify MySQL cinfig after install and set root password- http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/EWdrrc23.html [15:28] what do you use mysql for arfon? [15:28] i have a strange problem, i can paste in a terminal, the paste is correct [15:28] when i launch vim and paste again, it changes [15:28] G(guess what I've been doing) [15:28] arfon: mysql_secure_installation already exists [15:29] So who wants to help me in my QUEST for P vs NP. [15:29] I mainly use MySQl for web-backends [15:29] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:29] arfon: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-secure-installation.html [15:29] WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!?!?! [15:29] how many webservers you have? [15:29] arfon: because you didn't ask me [15:29] :P [15:29] I'm down to 2 KaMii [15:29] reinventing the wheel sucks :) [15:30] My wheel has racing stripes.... [15:30] ..and a handle bar bell... ding ding [15:31] WWWWWWWUUUUUUURRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURWWWWW [15:31] The answer I seek is SOMEWHERE IN THIS ROOM. [15:31] Why are we in the middle of this desert!? [15:31] Why, seriously, WHY ARE WE IN THE DESERT? [15:31] Answer me! [15:31] This desert! [15:32] cen___: wtf are you talking about? [15:32] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:33] timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:33] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.195.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:34] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [15:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-106-66.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:36] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.197.60) joined ##slackware. [15:36] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-106-66.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] bleh [15:41] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] whats wrong adrien? [15:45] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:45] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Action: KaMii doesnt feel so good :S [15:51] Pizza and aspirin K [15:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-106-66.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:52] havent slept in 2 days, and have fever blah [15:53] Nyquil... [15:53] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-gmyiuraoqjntmovn) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:53] Phazey (Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware ("I've Parted."). [15:54] olgagirl (~olgagirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] whiskey and coke [15:54] olgagirl (~olgagirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:55] Um, not quite the same thing.... [15:55] tastes better [15:55] Axelpalm (~alch@78-28-89-224.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:56] But it's not an antipyretic [15:56] Action: arfon like the taste of licorish anyway [15:56] maybe its all the radiation from the fires in Chernobyl [15:57] Probably from the radioactive pigs.... [15:57] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:57] glowing bacon just tastes better though [15:58] ohhh they have a sale on 1TB hdds only 500SEK [15:59] What's that? like $4.95? [15:59] oh.. thats only like 450DKK.. that IS cheep [15:59] arfon: devide with like 6 got get $ [15:59] ya, i know at Elgiganten [15:59] do you have Elgiganten in Denmark? [15:59] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-23-61.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:59] i just saw a commercial for it on tv [15:59] ~$80? [16:00] umm i think the exchange rate is $1 = 7SEK [16:00] I though you guys were all Euro'd.... [16:01] Sweden, norway, and Demark rejected the EMU [16:01] Why? [16:01] because Euro sucks [16:01] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] That's a compelling argument. [16:02] KaMii: are you from sweden? [16:02] $80 is usually what Fry's sell them for here in Texas [16:02] yes [16:02] yeeeeiii, me to, södertälje [16:03] oh, lord, here they go... [16:03] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] corracaminos (laguilar@190.241.113.34) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [16:06] Kalmar! [16:10] did someone here have to do with sigalarm-problems with static 64-bit binaries? [16:10] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:12] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:12] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] danged ISP [16:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:14] _joey (~blah@120.21.250.119) joined ##slackware. [16:14] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [16:14] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Changing host [16:14] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [16:17] anyone has the link to rworkman's xorg-server-1.8 packages? 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[16:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:40] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:40] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [16:42] squeezy (squeezy@89.204.153.233) left ##slackware. [16:47] Destructo (~chatzilla@12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. [16:47] :S i dont like being sick [16:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] hello all. im trying to fix some issues here. where can i find linux headers for 13.1 [16:48] Destructo: its on your cd set [16:48] the first cd ..? [16:48] idk, i use the dvd [16:48] i only have 1 and 2 [16:48] look in the packages.txt file or whatever its called [16:48] can i dload them [16:48] well you can also download it off a mirror [16:49] they would be in K ? [16:49] k is for kernel [16:49] I think its i D but i dont remember, look on the txt file [16:50] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:50] wouldn't they be on the sources disk? [16:50] could be [16:51] thats why pat wrote all that down in txt files [16:51] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:52] wut? [16:53] wheni goto /slackware-13.1/source/d/kernel-headers all there is --> slack-desc .. is that all. ? [16:54] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:54] the package should be built then, check /slackware-13.1/slackware/d/ [16:55] oh man . my bad. [16:55] thanks [16:56] the kernel headers , is it like compoiling a kernel .. > [16:56] ? [16:57] j0z (unix@189.114.235.200.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:57] j0z (unix@189.114.235.200.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [16:57] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [16:58] no [16:58] you need the kernel headers to compile external drivers [16:59] no :P [16:59] kernel headers to compile, including regular apps [17:00] Action: macavity checks that package again [17:00] to compile drivers/modules, you need the full, configured and prepared sources of the kernel [17:00] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:01] from the looks of it only glibc could want to know about this stuff directly [17:02] but i'll take your word for it [17:02] jhw (~jhw@p548D68D3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] WHY CAN'T GMP SUPPORT INTERGERS OVER ONE HUNDRED TRILLION BILLION [17:04] How will I ever solve my CRAZY MATH PROBLEMS? [17:04] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:05] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [17:06] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-136.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] i fixed my blank screen when i DID startx. now i need to get this damn pcmcia card to work. [17:07] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Hello, World! [17:07] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] macavity: there's a bit more actually: there are a few linux-specific things in the kernel headers, mostly related to networking (inet files iirc) [17:10] what the hell is a tzx file ? [17:10] can someone kick the bot? [17:10] i mean txz [17:10] it is the new compression format [17:10] really' [17:11] tgz is so 1980s [17:11] txz is slackwares new default format for packages [17:11] Destructo, good news :) [17:11] ]so how do i open . its my kernel headers [17:12] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:12] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-246-3-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:12] trhodes . yeah. but remember how i said i knew ndiswrapper. its just another failure on my list .. oh well [17:12] hmm, yeah, ndiswrapper might be tricky [17:12] trhodes do you know how to install kernel headers with a txz as the extension [17:13] yeah, just get the package [17:13] slackbuilds >? [17:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:13] part of slackware [17:13] what ever happened to compiling [17:14] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.213.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:15] trhodes like here ---> /slackware-13.1/slackware/d/kernel-headers-2.6.33.4_smp-x86-1.txz [17:16] yep, that package contains all the kernel headers (included in a full install) [17:16] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:16] Mowah (1000@c-d788e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:16] adrien: aye.. i just thought glibc would wrap all that [17:16] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:17] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d000fd0.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] macavity: no, glibc makes it quite visible actually [17:17] qt, glib2 and friends however... [17:17] adrien: that is, unless you write in assembler it is usually the runtime (in this case glibc) that invokes the kernel for you, and swizzle back and forth if the OS core exports something that isnt fully POSIX [17:17] heheh ;-) [17:18] i feel tempted to try and compile kdenetwork without the kernel headers installed :P [17:19] trhodes oh so that would be like installing a package installpkg etc ..? [17:20] Destructo, yep [17:20] hmmmm , ok. seems i nee d to install headers , and the damn broadcom firmware . [17:20] macavity: will work, it relies on qt ;p [17:21] ive messed with 5-6 distros. too many ubuntu based . same shit. no ggc in all of them . the slackware based were better [17:21] uhm, glibc wraps the socet operation in an OS transparent manner [17:21] i am looking at it now [17:21] /usr/include/sys/socket.h [17:21] what ever happened to oftc . [17:22] theres no broadcom drivers firmware in slackware right ..? [17:22] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. 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[17:46] sorry bout that, i didn't mean to reboot the internet [17:46] EthanG (~ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:46] stephen__ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] tuxdev__ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] b00jit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [17:46] tuxdev__ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [17:46] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [17:46] betageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) returned to ##slackware. [17:46] Nick change: C00re_ -> C00re [17:46] Possible future nick collision: C00re [17:46] nokia3510 (~nokia@92.86.119.132) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:46] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [17:46] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-223.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] I missed it, what happened? [17:46] Nick change: trhodes_ -> trhodes [17:47] sorry i had a lot of broccoli [17:47] lol [17:47] arfon: just a netsplit [17:47] Oh... I <3 ignore [17:48] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:49] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) returned to ##slackware. [17:49] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [17:50] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) got lost in the net-split. [17:50] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) got lost in the net-split. [17:50] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.114.249) got lost in the net-split. [17:50] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-102-175.consolidated.net) got lost in the net-split. [17:50] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) got lost in the net-split. [17:51] I have strange situation [17:51] I`ve attached USB mass storage [17:51] and now only root can access it [17:52] when ordinaru user wish to even ls this directory got Permission Denied [17:52] why ? [17:52] mount point have 0744 rights [17:52] and can`t change them by chmod [17:53] ??? [17:53] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:54] Mac, an easy way to fix that is to add a fstab entry and set it up with the users option.... Now with all of the newfangled udev/HAL crap going on others will disagree with me. [17:54] ..but it works [17:55] is it a MS filesystem? [17:58] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [17:59] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:01] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:10] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:11] good evening :D [18:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:17] arfon (~arfon@adsl-75-54-81-16.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:20] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:21] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:23] mac-: is your regular user a member of the plugdev group? [18:23] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:25] jennyf (~jennyf@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:25] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:59] mac-: it is rather likely that it will solve your problem.. as plugdev group exist for the sole reason of allowing regular users access to pluggable devices like USB and CDROM [18:59] uh [18:59] I didin`t know that [19:00] it said so when you ran the adduser command [19:00] thanks [19:00] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.147) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:00] how can I not be tired? ive had insomnia for 2 days... and im not tired at all :S [19:00] it said "use arrow up to get a list of aditional groups" bla bla something [19:00] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.39) joined ##slackware. [19:00] if you had hit arrow up your normal user account would have been a member of all the groups one would expect from a desktop user [19:02] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:02] assuming he used adduser [19:02] Action: andarius doesnt know [19:04] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] andarius: o/ [19:04] cengator (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [19:04] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [19:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-144-66.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:04] I COME SEEKING GNOSIS. [19:04] And dinner. [19:04] Action: andarius has dinner cooking, but you cant have any of it :P [19:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-144-66.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:05] you havent found this gnosis fella yet? [19:05] I don't think so, no. [19:05] wasn't he in the matrix? [19:05] But I did find a box of whippits. [19:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:07] Maybe Gnosis involves me joining Slackware's dev team. [19:07] And why are there all these FLYING ANIMALS IN MY APARTMENT?! [19:08] lol.. id like to see that :-) [19:08] both actually [19:10] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-223.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:10] Phazey (~Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:11] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-14.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Roccojr (~Roccojr@cpe-24-161-24-49.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:15] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [19:15] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9TJwH4tOAM [19:16] Haiti Song ^ [19:17] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:17] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:18] YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY DONKEY KONG. [19:19] Action: Phazey zaps you [19:20] Enjoying the Cattle Prod cengator ? [19:20] :P [19:20] If that's a bot I'll be pissed off. [19:20] Lol. [19:20] qwebirc ? [19:20] of course its a bot, the same one that keeps coming in with a different name [19:20] Are you on google chrome cengator ? [19:20] Ah alright. [19:20] qwebirc [19:20] qwebirc v0.90, copyright (C) 2008-2010 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.375.55 Safari/533.4 [19:21] It's on a Mac. [19:21] So it says. [19:21] annoying trolls and their bots [19:21] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.39) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [19:22] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [19:27] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:28] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Nick change: LostMyNick -> DarkHack [19:28] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Changing host [19:28] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [19:28] I need a bot. Hm. [19:29] eggdrop [19:29] What [19:29] YEAH IM ON AN APPLE. [19:29] OS9 BABY, WOO. [19:29] estranho_ (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [19:29] cengator: capslock is your friend [19:30] I actually hold shift, unless you're implying I should just turn capslock on all the time.... [19:30] It is time, to decide a fantastic decision of decisive qualities... [19:30] Should I get high, or should I work? [19:30] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:31] try both [19:31] can someone kick him? [19:31] cengator: thou shall get the heck out of here. [19:31] Sir_Konrad: I bet you haven't even gotten your pope card... [19:31] just because you do drugs does not mean we think you are cool, grow up and go away [19:32] Just because I do drugs doesn't mean I do them for fun and games. [19:32] Maybe I am on a quest to solve P vs NP [19:32] And drugs help significantly with abstract thinking. [19:34] I actually really don't like the feeling I get while intoxicated and derive little pleasure from it. [19:35] Whoever owns this fucking bot remove before I do. [19:35] Phazey, you're an op here? I have never seen you here. [19:35] I won't be kicking it. [19:35] 5 minutes. [19:35] Action: jgeboski scratched his head [19:35] list of ops is in the guidlines page [19:35] http://is.gd/bYfOG [19:36] and I'm not an operator of this channel. [19:36] don't people have anything more productive to do than troll ##slackware? [19:36] I'd say. [19:36] I'm here on a quest. [19:36] I'm not sure what this quest is for or what it is even about. [19:36] cengator: are you real or fake? [19:36] I personally blame Eris for this blunder. [19:36] its a bot [19:36] Phazey, he's real. [19:36] Are you causing issues like I was told? [19:36] Of course I'm real. [19:36] Causing issues? [19:36] Are YOU real? [19:36] Are you a PINK? [19:36] Indeed I am. [19:37] Pink: no. [19:37] Thank goodness. [19:37] I haven't seen anything Sorry for the disruption. [19:37] I thought you were a bot ;) [19:37] No, I'm here because some drug induced thought told me to come here. [19:37] And It's getting annoying. [19:37] See, I'm Discordian. [19:37] Notice this channel name: "Slackware" does it say "DrugWare" ? [19:37] No. It's Slackware. [19:37] Indeed. [19:38] And the Slack in Slackware is named off of a branch of Discordia. [19:38] Join #Drugs if you want to talk crap. [19:38] estranho_ (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [19:38] I'm not here to talk drugs. [19:38] Then Don't. [19:38] I'm here to solve NP vs P and hack reality. [19:38] Action: Phazey sighs. [19:38] What, drugs are banned here too? What is this, America? [19:38] Do whatever but I warned you. [19:38] I'm here to hack reality, man. [19:38] stop talking to it [19:38] It. [19:38] thats what activates the bot [19:39] cant someone just kline this a$$hole? [19:39] KaMii: I think it's an like an eggdrop with bmotion and someone also types on it to make it *Seem* Real. [19:39] Obviously KaMii but I'm not sure. [19:39] Hmm [19:39] its not bmotion [19:39] cengator: are you real? [19:39] its a little bit more sophisticated [19:39] Do you want me to pass a turing test? [19:39] What did I just type X4c4l3 ? [19:39] You typed 314c4X. [19:40] You typed it backwards. [19:40] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:40] I'm dyslexic. [19:40] Right. [19:40] time to kline [19:40] ASL cengator ? [19:40] 21/M/NYC [19:40] How long has it been here KaMii ? [19:40] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.26) joined ##slackware. [19:40] KaMii: It seems real to me. [19:40] idk long enough [19:40] its not real [19:40] LETS DISCUSS IF CEN ALLIGATOR IS A ROBOT. [19:40] It has too many Intelligent Responses for it not to be a human [19:40] its a bot [19:40] Robotic alligator time. [19:40] KaMii, I talked to him in pm,, he's real. :) [19:41] then hes a troll [19:41] He's looking pretty real to me. [19:41] Indeed. [19:41] I think he's a troll :) [19:41] Troll, no. [19:41] brb, [19:41] Anyway brb shower, I've stalled long enough. [19:41] Crazy, yes. [19:41] Hmm where is stu at? [19:41] You gotta understand man, you gotta understand. [19:41] These flying animals, they're getting on my nerves. [19:42] So, don't take it personally if I creep you out. [19:42] ... [19:42] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:42] You have 30 seconds to remove it. [19:42] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-31-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Remove WHAT. [19:42] Yourself. [19:42] just put it on ignore, thats what i did [19:42] Or stop pasting bullshit [19:42] I am not pasting anything. [19:43] KaMii: It is real. [19:43] OK, there seems to be some miscommunication here. Let me give you a video. [19:43] cengator: Don't worry. I don't tolerate sp@m. [19:43] This is me in real life. It will explain everything you are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7apc0JAV-Q [19:43] well i dont like trolls so its on iggy [19:44] I'm not trolling --- I'm seriously on a vision quest but on the internet. [19:44] It is very hard to explain. [19:44] I'm knowledgeable in UNIX-like systems, so if you wanna talk hardcore terminal gossip we can do that. [19:45] I'd prefer you just shut up. [19:45] indeed. [19:45] Please kindly type ddate into your terminal of choice, jgeboski. [19:50] cengator: Ffs. You look like a bum. [19:50] Spirit quests tend to do that. [19:51] I mean, look at any of the founders of any given religion. [19:51] Today is Setting Orange, the 6th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3176 [19:51] Long hair, sandals, bearded .. [19:51] i know why the bots are attcking, its now friday the 13th [19:51] What's the difference between dir and ls cengator ? [19:52] Friday the 13th. Love that day [19:52] I don't. [19:52] Lol. [19:52] Roccojr (~Roccojr@cpe-24-161-24-49.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: [19:53] The difference is in YOU. [19:53] They're not really accomplishing much. [19:54] new linux flash version released. upgraded from r52 to r82 [19:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:54] I didn't even know DIR existed outside of DOS, though. [19:54] It works in a *NIX* based system. [19:54] you know the basics obviously? (Dir,ps,ls,pwd,cp,mv,exit,logout.shutdown) ? [19:55] clear == cls [19:55] Linux seems to have an alias for it to LS, but BSD has a man page about it as a library. [19:55] Oh you've used "BSD" have ya? [19:55] Me too I use FreeBSD all the time. [19:55] The Ports Collection is nice. [19:56] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-144-66.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:56] Do any Programming/Coding\Scripting cengator ? [19:56] For a living, sadly. [19:56] "Sadly" ? [19:56] Hmm. Interesting. [19:56] cengator: there are multiple man pages if there are multiple uses for a word/phrase [19:56] I get to program in wonderful MICROSOFT DOT NET [19:56] What do you do? [19:56] Oh Woo hoo. [19:56] The most advanced scripting language out there! [19:56] Visual Basic next? [19:56] Batch files after you've learned that? [19:56] No. C#. [19:57] I was kidding. Lol. [19:57] (Sarcasm) [19:57] Oh, we're being sarcastical. [19:57] frimer: ? [19:57] frimer: oops, tab fail [19:57] .NET Framework sucks shit Visual Basic is worse and Batch files are the worst thing since well have we had anything that bad? Even Plan 9 went better then Batch files. [19:57] MAC OSX [19:58] After a few kernel configs and re-compiled packages and Your own system configuration oh what the hell Linux will be quicker! :o [19:58] Even Plan 9? Plan 9 rocks [19:58] If you say so. [19:58] I do say so [19:58] I tried plan 9, it wouldnt boot [19:58] Are you gay cmk_zzz ? [19:59] Depends whos asking [19:59] "Plan 9 replaced Unix at Bell Labs as the organization's primary platform for research". [19:59] The only issue is [19:59] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.52) joined ##slackware. [19:59] hmm brb [19:59] (Rest-room) [19:59] OS X is OK if you don't need more than one mouse button. [20:00] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [20:00] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-44-211-162.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [20:01] Back; I just don't like Plan 9 cmk_zzz. [20:01] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [20:01] but just so you know Plan 9 does not have system calls for the multitude of communication protocols or device driver interfaces [20:01] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:01] Phazey: That is OK. I wont report you to the police [20:01] Oh wow? [20:01] Really [20:01] Fantastic. [20:01] Channel flood from Phazey -- kicking [20:01] Thanks buddy. [20:01] Phazey kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:01] Phazey (~Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Action: Phazey worships [20:02] -g0v- risah (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) was looking for you on ##slackware 26 minutes ago (13.08. 00:32). [20:02] o.0 [20:02] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:02] anyone pinged an OP yet? [20:02] I did. [20:03] Lazy pricks don't even reply. [20:03] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:03] I bet if I brought a 3k botnet here they'd be on it like a rash on an african kid. [20:03] But anything I ask them for No. [20:03] Pft. [20:03] They are Pricks at times lol. [20:03] alienBOB: you alive? [20:03] Action: Phazey pokes the shit out of Eric! [20:05] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:06] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:06] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:07] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Be back later. [20:09] Phazey (Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware ("I've Parted."). [20:10] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-31-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:11] zoZo (~zoZo@c-68-51-184-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7B078.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] hello slackers! how long will 12.2 be supported? [20:12] Guestimations? [20:13] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:13] zoZo, don't quote me on this but I _think_ 8 or 9 is still supported [20:13] so at that rate for a couple of years maybe? or longer? [20:14] wow! that's not bad [20:14] cengator: then stop talking [20:15] ugh. Don't get him going again. [20:15] meh, what the hell is wrong with phazey? [20:15] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:15] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:15] britneypire (~britneypi@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:15] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B79A8E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:15] nachox: I'd suspect a bot or just a toller. [20:16] troller/acidhead [20:16] i dont think that was a troll [20:16] err, bot [20:16] not a bot I would think [20:16] it was definitely a troll [20:16] phazey has been on before [20:16] what's a troll [20:17] trhodes, not phazey - the guy who he was conversing with :) [20:17] Please don't compare acidheads with trolls. [20:18] britneypire (~britneypi@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [20:18] cengator: you haven't exactly been the ideal channel visitor either. [20:18] well you're probably right there cengator [20:19] rworkman: Yeah, well vision quests are kind of difficult. [20:19] I don't know why I'm here or how I got here. [20:19] None of us know anything about this goddamn desert, man. [20:19] You need directions to get out? [20:19] Nah, you see --- this place is going to give me some degree of enlightenment. [20:19] One way or the other. [20:19] Action: GooseYArd shows cengator his scrote [20:20] I'm not sure how yet, and probably never will be privvy to why; but it's gonna happen. [20:20] Time for a teabagira [20:20] coming to a channel and giving us the benefit of your halucinations isn't trolling I'll admit but it does produce a few crests in an otherwise calm support channel. [20:20] Probably as soon as I inhale this bag of vapor. [20:20] dive: It is not easy to explain, and I don't claim to be a saint about this situation. [20:21] me neither, but this isn't the place to discuss it believe me. [20:21] I'm trying to solve P vs NP so I can make a lot of money quickly and work on shit that doesn't involve "oh i want a fade away effect in this menu" [20:21] Action: rworkman wonders if this is a reincarnated cockpunch. [20:21] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-14.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:21] Slackware is interesting to me because of it's Discordian roots. [20:21] funny P = NP (or not came up earlier today) [20:21] What about it? [20:22] been in the news lately, with the tentative proof [20:22] Yeah, I read it but don't believe it. [20:22] Maybe I'm in denial. [20:22] dive predicted that some douchebag would show up later pretending to be hallucinating and hjabbering about it [20:22] He's fucking psychic! [20:22] Did he really? [20:22] thats twice he's done that [20:22] haha [20:23] I love the word douchebag [20:23] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:24] Awwww, how sweet. [20:24] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:24] zoZo (zoZo@c-68-51-184-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:26] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [20:27] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-45.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] rworkman: You're using dartmouth royal china teacup? [20:29] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:29] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:31] ridout: Definitely :) [20:31] That's righteous, man. [20:32] rworkman: o/ [20:32] Heh. :) [20:32] macavity: greets. [20:32] and laterz. Gotta go bathe daughter #11 [20:32] Although my pun was somewhat lacking quality compared to yours. [20:33] 11? Big family you got there already. [20:33] he has like 9 wives [20:33] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Oh. :) [20:35] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:36] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:36] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-31-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:37] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:38] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:38] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:38] daughter 11? [20:38] lol [20:39] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:39] dint you know ? robbie is a mormon; his other 3 wives keep the slackbuilds up to date [20:39] hahaha [20:39] he does not [20:40] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:40] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [20:49] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [20:51] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:03] slackytude (~slacky@drms-4d000fd0.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:06] chazbro (~chaz_broa@adsl-70-234-167-240.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] hey there :) [21:07] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:07] i have an old version of opera (10.11) i needed uninstalled. anybody know how i am to proceed? [21:08] did you install it with a package? [21:08] nope [21:08] i downloaded the opera tar.bz2 file [21:08] do you still have the source directory where you compiled it? [21:08] yes [21:08] make uninstall [21:09] from inside the source directory [21:09] it wasn't really a source install though [21:09] it was a script ./install [21:10] read the readme file or the install file [21:10] instructions will be in there [21:10] ahh [21:10] ty [21:10] should have known that [21:15] chazbro: slackbuilds.org is your friend :-) [21:15] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:17] yes i know slackbuilds quite well [21:17] i just didnt use them in this instance [21:21] er, that was supposed to be "#1" - not "#11" [21:21] ridout: ^ [21:21] KaMii: ^ [21:25] OK, I thought it might be #1. [21:26] frk (~jcn@189.58.212.218.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:27] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7B078.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:28] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: ...And thanks for all the fish! [21:29] frk (~jcn@189.58.212.218.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] frk (~jcn@189.58.212.218.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:31] ummm there is no readme, and the install.sh file doesn't help [21:31] Back. Wow I just finished watching this. [21:31] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:32] would typing whereis opera work? [21:32] Made me just stare in awe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQouX5U0fc [21:32] maybe "which opera" ? [21:32] then rm all whereis finds [21:33] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [21:33] risah: awesome :) [21:33] well i do have opera-10.61 installed in /usr/local/bin [21:33] its installed with the suffix to tell them apart [21:33] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [21:35] wait just a minute [21:35] heh silly me [21:35] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:36] make a mountain out of a simple little moe hill [21:36] Nick change: frk -> jcn_ [21:37] As for earlier conversation - I got to see cengator on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6ez7UPn5M and he is quite funny. lol [21:37] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.234.86) joined ##slackware. [21:38] brb. going to test [21:38] then i'll post the answer if anyone is interested [21:38] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] chazbro (chaz_broa@adsl-70-234-167-240.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:41] Action: risah dances. [21:44] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@200.140.234.254) joined ##slackware. [21:44] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:44] cengator, you don't make any sense in your videos. :| [21:44] The only thing that makes sense is that you need a girlfriend. lol [21:45] I am esoteric. [21:46] x) [21:46] My sort of humor. [21:47] But in most of your videos all you do is talk about how you are an adorable princess alligator. :| [21:48] Nick change: bnguyen_ -> bnguyen [21:48] ente (~ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense) joined ##slackware. [21:49] can anyone explain me the slackware version number policy? [21:49] ente, sure, it works with most others too, the versioning system. [21:49] The first number before the decimal is the major version. [21:49] The second number after the decimal is the minor version. [21:49] yeah, but when does the major version get bumped? [21:50] ente: when Pat decides to do so. [21:50] When our benevolent dictator chooses to. [21:50] Or Pat.. [21:51] I'm wondering what he considers worth bumping the major version [21:51] .txz obviously was ;) [21:52] so has he decided on the next version number yet? 13.2 or 14? [21:52] ente, ah well ask him, though, you should bring some tribute to him before asking for his audience. [21:52] My guess? 13.2. [21:52] ente: well 13.0 had a whole load of changes,the txz, KDE4, [21:52] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] KDE4 is not even worth mentioning in a site note :P [21:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F467.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] but that's my personal opinion [21:53] he had a random number generator produce flash cards with version numbers on them and then he shuffle the deck and plays monte carlo [21:53] Skywise: you forget the usage of pom(6) [21:53] doh! [21:54] gabba (~gabba@c-24-35-51-95.customer.broadstripe.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] LOL! Phase of the moon. [21:54] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.89.239) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:56] sequential increments in version numbers are simply statitistical anomalies [21:56] Skywise, haha, stop it. You're making me laugh irl. [21:56] And I can't laugh, I have a canker sore. ;_; [21:56] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:56] aww, ok, i'll ease up [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F121.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [22:03] oh my god amazing how many gayballs are on facebook at this coffee shop [22:03] anyway, good night [22:03] thanks for the quick response :) [22:03] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.89.239) joined ##slackware. [22:04] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [22:05] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.64) joined ##slackware. [22:09] Action: risah chitters at the project page, "must improve, time to get to work so I can upload more projects". [22:11] ente (ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense) left ##slackware ("Broken Pipe"). [22:12] unenana (~unenana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:14] unenana (~unenana@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:19] tuxdev__ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Would anyone agree with me if I said just about everything that can be invented has been invented for everyday average folks like myself? [22:25] no. [22:25] What can be invented that hasn't been invented, for everyday average folks? [22:26] if that could be answered, then you just invented something [22:26] id like a butt scratching machine [22:26] That would be righteos. [22:26] er, righteous [22:26] tank-man, but that's the point, what need is there that is not fulfilled? [22:27] GooseYArd, there IS a butt scratching machine. [22:27] Two, one in Japan that is a toilet machine thingie, the other in China, a long stick that looks like a scratchie thingie. [22:27] what good does it do me, in japan or china [22:27] NONE [22:28] Right now, my computer, I have everything I could possibly need. It works perfectly. My life is perfect with this setup. I am one step away from setting up Slackware to automate my house / room. [22:28] GooseYArd, lol, go order it on the internet. [22:28] a diaper changing machine would be super [22:28] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [22:29] automatic beer-getter (to the couch delivery) [22:29] The last time I checked for PhD research topic to see what I can invent / research / etc, they talk about really complicated stuff, aside from the obvious like P = NP, they talk about unsolve-able questions, really complicated stuff that requires funding (logic in games, etc). [22:29] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:29] danc3, already have that, but those are expensive robots. GooseYArd be more practical. You want a robot to handle your baby? [22:30] what could be more practical than a diaper changing machine [22:30] before the avg person had to farm for food, now with technology, only a few people have to farm for everyone. There are still things still needed to be invented for the avg person to make their lives better [22:30] you should invent tank-meat [22:30] So far, in computer science at least, the only thing I can think of to invent, are extremely difficult. Algorithms more efficient than what we have (and proofs for it), brain modeling, better compiler theory, better computer architecture, etc. [22:31] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] jhw (~jhw@p548D68D3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:31] you could invent something to make an orgasm better and theen you wont have to worry about money [22:31] an orgasm button [22:31] And these are topics that I think, even our benevolent dictator will have trouble with. Brain modeling with Slackware? True randomness with a one way function? [22:32] i think you need to invent your ass a hobby [22:32] GooseYArd, why do I need a hobby? I have goals but I need a practical one. [22:32] Most of my goals are research related. Theoretical science, PhD topics, etc. [22:33] jhw (~jhw@p548D6E24.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:33] provable languages are where its at in CS [22:34] if software development is ever to be software engineering, thats how it'll happen [22:34] read some of galen hunts papers [22:34] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [22:34] maybe [22:34] yhhhuiopooooooo [22:34] why are we in this goddamn desert [22:35] I'm not in a desert [22:35] I'm in a hot tub [22:35] we came out here to talk about your weird googly eyeballs [22:38] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.68.162) joined ##slackware. [22:38] hi folks [22:38] hi acid [22:39] im having some problems while watching videos on youtube, etc. fullscreen with flash [22:39] any idea, similar problem there? [22:43] it hang X [22:43] acidtripper: I don't bother with fullscreen. [22:43] but, sometimes it's necessary for example to watch a film online [22:43] or useful [22:48] Guii (slackware@187.101.3.13) joined ##slackware. [22:48] rodrigo_golive (~Rodrigo@200.140.234.254) left irc: Quit: i'm chargin mah lazer [22:50] cengator (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:50] Somebody already installed the compiz in slackware? [22:50] Nick change: slakmagi1 -> slakmagik [22:50] I've been looking for it, but I guess you had it. [22:50] acidtripper: use the stand-alone flash player from sbo instead. [22:50] slakmagik (~j@adsl-69-187-252.rmo.bellsouth.net) left irc: Changing host [22:50] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [22:51] acidtripper: i.e. don't watch in Firefox. [22:51] thumbs: i'll try sbo version [22:51] ;) [22:51] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:51] acidtripper: I was able to use that one fullscreen, FYI. [22:51] Guii (slackware@187.101.3.13) left irc: Quit: it´s all [www.fulltscript.com] [22:52] Damn, sometimes fortune scares me. [22:52] blah (~blah@TRMITDESK.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [22:52] I just logged in to one of my virtual machines, and I get this: [22:52] Message from Our Sponsor on ttyTV at 13:58 ... [22:53] neat. [22:54] thumbs, "note that the standalone flash-player does not work on x86_64" :( [22:54] acidtripper: oh, bummer. [22:54] acidtripper: I'm on 32. [22:54] :S [22:55] i'll try chrome with flash [22:55] on 64 [22:55] acidtripper: not a bad idea. [22:57] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] Phazey (~Phazey@125-238-180-33.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [22:59] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) joined ##slackware. [23:00] alligatorfan42 (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [23:01] rworkman, pay the license fee and stop getting those messages :D [23:02] gatorfan42 (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [23:02] we're all in a desert. [23:02] why are we in this desert! [23:03] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: gh [23:04] look ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/ [23:04] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:04] alligatorfan42 (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:05] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:05] powtrix, sick but not as sick of all the games steam has to offer source code :> including call of duty 4 mw2 [23:05] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [23:05] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:06] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@97-127-223-29.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [23:07] I saw that cpunches filed for a GRF in #freenode. Funny. [23:08] jeev, in 2020 idsoftware will add these source games there [23:09] mrspwnage (~mrspwn@97-127-220-154.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:10] thumbs: I thought his site was offline? [23:11] Dominian: really? What was the address again? [23:12] slackhappy.net ... I think [23:13] gatorfan42 (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:15] powtrix crazy [23:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:16] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] thumbs: what's a GRF that cpunches is filing for? [23:17] c__ (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [23:17] #fruitcakes? [23:17] danc3: a group registration form. [23:17] danc3: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml [23:17] ahh, ok, thx [23:17] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:20] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:24] Nick change: ananke_ -> ananke [23:27] Alright. So in #web this guy is claiming he make $20,000 a week. [23:27] So? [23:28] Good on the Liar [23:28] and if it's real then Good on him. [23:28] Until thats me I don't much care lol [23:28] risah: I build niche based sites and market them via Facebook fan pages, and also do media buys and Google Adwords [23:28] But I don't understand how building website can yield him $20,000 a week. [23:28] risah: who cares? [23:28] Risah it would be the Google Ads that make him the money [23:28] danc3, me, I'd like to make that much, I have hospitals and schools to build. [23:28] Some people make 3k a day from Google ads. [23:29] Phazey, I don't believe it. The tax is going to kill them. What's their net income? I need to see this for myself. [23:29] risah: this is the ##slackware channel. Go bother people somewhere else. [23:29] danc3, it's a safe topic to talk about unless someone is asking / currently talking about Slackware. [23:29] risah: The more popular Google becomes the more money they make [23:29] Not to mention you would get sponsored. [23:29] Also, [23:30] Don't ask if you are just going to deny it [23:30] Ask what? [23:30] Well, so you believe him? [23:30] nachox (~Ignacio@OL147-242.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:30] It's possible. [23:30] But, [23:30] I don't think it's just from making websites. [23:30] risah: what does it matter if anyone here believes it? Does that change anything? [23:31] Exactly. [23:31] doubtful [23:31] Go google it. [23:31] danc3, I'd start something up like it if it's real. [23:31] unless he doing websites for some very very big companies [23:31] risah: don't you think everybody else would, too? That should tell you something... [23:31] I believe people can make money from adsense as I make money from mine, but not that much. [23:31] and they usually would go for an agency not a freelancer [23:32] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-4-31.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-168-21.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] heya folks [23:33] I told them about college and then he said - I know guys who are under 25 who will laugh at you if you think $350k/year is good. [23:33] He thinks $350,000 is pocket change. [23:34] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-77-70.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:34] risah: I know guys who work 2 hours a day maximum, 5 days a week, and make $7 figures a year. [23:34] See the claims he is making? It's just hard to believe. 2 hours? Making 7 figures? Seriously? He makes it sound like there are lots of people doing this. [23:34] And a lot of people in #web, including the regulars, are saying Killswitch is legit. [23:35] And a lot of people in ##slackware don't give a shit either way. [23:35] go argue about it with the dipshits in #web if you must. [23:35] Sounds like jealousy more than anything then danc3. Quite frankly if he's as good as he says, I'd heed some advice from him. [23:35] LOL [23:36] then go listen to what he has to say. Over there --------> [23:36] No, are you new here? [23:36] I've never seen you. [23:36] BTW, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell ya [23:36] then you're a n00b. [23:36] been here for years. [23:36] Okay. [23:37] Well you can put me on ignore. [23:37] are you interested in buying my bridge? It's a really nice bridge, in great shape, recently painted. [23:37] danc3: ocean front property in Arizona as well?..;) [23:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:38] YES!!!!! I have some of that too! How did you know that??? [23:38] it's going fast, though. ;) [23:38] blame it on a little bird...;*) [23:38] the folks in #web are just snapping it up! [23:39] lol [23:40] nothin' like it when it's hot and steaming....:D [23:40] heh [23:41] risah: do you use Slackware? [23:41] danc3, yea. [23:41] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:41] cool [23:42] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. 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