[00:00] eh [00:00] what does the patch do first of all? [00:00] and how do you know you need it? [00:01] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:01] that patch, enables zd1211rw driver to work properly with my tp-link usb wireless adapter. [00:01] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:01] i don't want to use ndiswrapper :) [00:01] is it available in a newer kernel? [00:01] not think so, a developer in tp-link forums, tried it [00:01] and worked in the same usb adapter [00:02] what kernel are you running first of all? [00:02] that patch appears to be for 2.6.27 [00:02] mbhayes, http://www.nabble.com/tp-link-WN322G-to21524214.html [00:02] the full thread [00:02] i have also 2.6.27 [00:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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[00:12] no according to the post.. [00:12] you should be in /usr/src//net/wireless when running the patch [00:12] right [00:12] and then just patch tplink.patch? [00:13] as root? [00:13] what's the patch file name? [00:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:13] yes [00:13] i c/p the text into an editor and saved it as tplink.patch [00:13] that's fine [00:13] let's see [00:14] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [00:15] mm, i did it.. how much time does this get? [00:16] :P [00:17] nothing yet, it keeps patching? [00:18] depends one what it has to patch [00:19] as root i had to patch it? [00:19] yes [00:20] it's a just a tiny patch.. mm.. why so much time, weird [00:21] dunno it shouldn't take it that long [00:21] :/ [00:21] damn [00:24] nothing so on, next step? kill it? :P [00:25] I'd say so [00:28] Wee (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:28] no luck [00:28] i don't know why [00:29] mbhayes, can I edit manually zd_rf.c? [00:30] Wee (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:31] I guess [00:31] dunno.. I don't have that card so dunno the patch.. [00:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:37] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:39] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejh106.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:39] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejh106.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[01:21] c-71-232-78-36.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [01:21] OOPS [01:21] Nick change: wahnfrieden -> psufan [01:25] im trying to convert to vegeterianism [01:25] anyone else? [01:26] vegetarianism [01:26] I think someone may have slipped you a bad tomato. [01:27] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] http://i39.tinypic.com/4gomfn.jpg [01:28] There should have been a firehose involved. [01:31] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:32] superGear (i=1000@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [01:35] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-163-145.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." 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[02:45] Action: Old_Fogie is grepping the stimulation bill for his name && hoping :) [02:46] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre/20090207000555]" [02:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:48] Old_Fogie: you try the wm indep tiling thing yet,sorry i forget the name? [02:49] whaw? [02:49] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:50] Rat409, yeah I built/installed it last night. I've only tested on gnome so far, works splendid [02:50] cool [02:50] i'll probly give it a try [02:50] Rat409, yea you toss the mouse to upper left of screen, and then depending on how you move your mouse (to the right going away from corner == horiz tile) and (to the bottom going away from corner == vertical tile) . [02:51] wow slick [02:51] just do 'man whaw' after you build it, it goes fast [02:51] k,thanks! [02:51] you have to run whaw as a forking daemon when you come into your DE [02:51] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:51] that's really all there is [02:51] k [02:52] hopefully, it's this painless on KDE or XFCE, but I dont have them on this box here [02:52] sounds nice and easy easy is good [02:52] yeah, I like minimal fuss apps for sure [02:52] i have xfce but normally openbox3 or pek or fvwm [02:53] you do like minimal there huh :) [02:53] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:54] have gnome too. yuh my old desktop was 700mhz celeron 320mb pc100 ? ram so got used to wm's [02:54] yes I see [02:54] I use flux on my sub 900 boxes too [02:55] slakmagik (n=j@adsl-162-130-3.rmo.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] this laptops like a year old and enjoying something relatively modern. flux rocks too [02:55] I always had kde, even on my 200 MHz machine [02:55] but wm's give more screen real-estate usually so good for laptops [02:56] pprkut, haahahah, cheating KDE was much less way back then :) [02:56] Rat409, agreed, or for video cards that only do <=1024x768 res [02:57] yup and on old box w/i810 kde was harder on the graphics [02:57] Old_Fogie: back then being 2003, but yeah, maybe (was kde 3.1.x) [02:58] pprkut, wow, well I guess it was usable if you did in fact use it. interesting.. well that would've been 2.4 kernels ... oh how I miss the speed of them. [02:58] hehe [02:59] Old_Fogie: openbox/bmpanel on bottom,Royalty theme current desktop just changed it wallpaper got old [02:59] http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4798/200902111723qk5.png [03:00] something diff anyways [03:00] a 'dark theme' lover there, very nice [03:00] yes, indeed,like darker themes,colors [03:01] 'bmpanel' never heard of that one. I'm still trying to get pypanel tweaked. stock settings are OK, but leave a little to be desired, but it's stable so that's good. [03:01] its the current fork/reincarnation of fspanel [03:01] bm=bitmap panel [03:02] only thing it needs, is some better pager, one that shows icons of what are in the diff workspaces would be nice. something like kpager, but without all the lag. I built fbpager, but it doesn't run if flux isn't onboard, which would be dumb to have both at that point. [03:02] http://nsf.110mb.com/bmpanel/ [03:03] lots of themes on deviant art customize.org,etc,gnome-look has a few [03:03] i must have like 20 themes or so [03:03] Wee (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:04] i'm a fan of window managers as well [03:04] using awesome2 at the moment [03:04] yup pypanels good too [03:05] yuh i tried it foe a bit but was harder for me,i've used wmii,dwm,ion3 and xmonad is a ton of depends [03:05] "BMPanel doesnt try to be portable" <--- Rat409 what does that mean? [03:05] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [03:05] means linux,developer uses archlinux [03:05] means mileage varies works fine here on 12.2.0 [03:06] aha, I see [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] theres debs/rpms its gotten into many distro's [03:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] and the sourcecode too [03:06] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [03:06] Rat409, yea the "whaw" is dated back in 2005, but I've yet to see a distro actually include it. Odd ... [03:07] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:07] i guess moe advanced tiling wm's took the user-base [03:08] imo be just what you'd want to use w/*boxes,etc [03:08] I suppose. I am shocked tho, that gnome, or xfce, or KDE don't have any tiling native. Even fluxbox has tiling. [03:08] when you did want tiling [03:08] yuh agreed [03:08] I mean, even *indows has tiling ya know [03:09] yuh. awesomes good tho arch chaanged from 2 to 3 series,xmonad i never quite got used too [03:09] heh, then again, Gnome probably thinks it confuses users, so they probably would yank it if it got committed. [03:09] awesome is the only tiling wm i have used... would like to try awesome3, but don't know how to compile cairo with xcb [03:09] lol yuh mileage does vary :) [03:10] xcb? [03:10] http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/index.php?title=Awesome-3-Slackware [03:10] xcb-utils i think not sure tho [03:11] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7a725bbef553f6b5) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [03:11] zoran119, I build cairo here (later than slack) and yes you're right, it's not in slack. From my log of ./configure -->XCB: no (disabled, use --enable-xcb to enable) [03:11] nice new find [03:12] zoran119, cairo is a big pita to compile. it has to be built, then other apps built, and then built again 3x to be right. [03:13] Old_Fogie, i got the slackbuild from the install dvd, and changed the slackbuild (added --enable-xcb) but it wold not compile [03:14] Old_Fogie, the error message said something like 'cannot enable the xcb back end, go to some website' [03:14] Old_Fogie, and i was a bit lost after that, the website was too confusing for me [03:14] popplers, pixman,cairo,pango (dont forget the modules) popplers, cairo,pango <--basically that. [03:14] hmmm [03:15] crap.... that [03:15] that's a lot of work [03:15] it's a mess [03:15] yes [03:15] you run ./configure of each I mention there, you will see that all them apps reference each other. it must have taken me 8 hours to figure out. [03:15] well best to know beforehand tho thanks! Old_Fogie [03:15] this is where it sent me http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ [03:17] Rat409, yw I got a cleaner list here on my dev box (which is off atm) [03:17] cool [03:17] yeah, i was hoping for awesome3 slackbuild, but i don't think that there will be one (according to mail list archives on slackbuilds.org) [03:17] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:18] it's a bit sad... i'd really like if xcb was enabled by default, but i don't have enough knowledge to tell what imact that would have on the whole distro... so i'll put up with awesome2 for a while [03:19] altho, I mean who knows, maybe it would be as simple as rebuild cairo after that's installed, it could work, I dunno. I just hear cairo rebuild and my stomach sinks, as I build gnome dev branch, and maintain a gnome for the house here, I had to tweak a script to get them all to build nicely with each other. versions that are higher than stock slack, so it makes it a pita. [03:20] I suppose a rebuild to add on a depend may be diff than build from scratch. Let's put it this way, if that app asks ya to upgrade your cairo, pango,..well then your in for fun :) [03:21] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "gone" [03:22] indeed . good chat as usual bit i need sleep. night all [03:23] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-241-198.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Rat409, ok gn. [03:23] and thanks as sual for aall the info [03:23] gn [03:23] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:23] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [03:25] i'd still like to try it in a virtual machine... just not sure what to do about this 'xcb backend' message [03:30] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:33] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:34] zoran119, well xcb-proto-1.3.tar.gz goes in first (just did it) then the libxcb-1.1.93.tar.gz (building now) [03:35] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] Old_Fogie, did u get these from the install disc or slackbuilds (or...) [03:36] just built them now with a quick hack buildscript [03:37] they're pretty stock issue, ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-static. Yeah they both build and install. I've not done a permissions check and such. but they're pretty straight forward...well no breakage at least here on Slack 12.1. [03:38] Old_Fogie, cool, i'm gonna try it now... where did u get the sources from? [03:38] http://xcb.freedesktop.org/dist/ [03:39] zoran119, building cairo to see if it sees it [03:41] Old_Fogie: night owl you are , look whos talking right ? the pot clling the kettle black. =) [03:41] Old_Fogie: I just woke up because i crahed too early. How are you this AM ? [03:42] zoran119, it doesnt seem to like the 1.X series of libxcb [03:42] it seems to really want the 0.9x branch.. [03:42] Old_Fogie, ok... it'll try with 0.9 [03:43] zoran119, you're going to want to script this for yourself and do a versions dance, or go to some other distro's and see what versions they have listed to play with each other. [03:43] thats what she said [03:43] dtanner, hey how are ya :) Oh, I can't sleep. It's thunder and lightening outside, and then temp is supposed to drop, and wind go up..and get this ...7" of snow by noon tomorrow...WTH! :) [03:43] Old_Fogie, yep, sounds like a plan. thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction [03:43] SiegeX, :) [03:44] zoran119, yw [03:44] Old_Fogie: it was almost 80 degrees here yesterday with blue skies [03:44] don't know what the temp is now but it is not cold outside [03:45] oh man /me is drooling. I am *so* done with winter this year, I can't wait to get outside and do some gardening already (and I don't mean shoveling snow off my perenials either :) [03:45] =) [03:45] snapdragons ?> [03:45] oh those are pretty, no we done have those, but I'm gonna get some now you mention it. [03:45] neighbor has lots of them [03:47] we had someone come by this past summer, and they literally had the balls to go up into our front yard, and cut the flowers off one of our gardens. and of course, it had to be the flowers that the wife is most fond off. [03:47] they just walked up, cut em and took off. [03:47] that is not cool [03:47] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] my wife was crying over it. and I said see "if you let me have the dogs in the front ..." [03:47] =) [03:48] she works her tail off out there on them too. shame. wish I caught the sob. [03:48] this is definitely a trip http://hypography.com/forums/earth-science/14762-pothead-discovers-worlds-largest-impact-crater.html [03:49] dtanner, nullboy well I've been grepping, and using reg expressions all night long... I'm sorry to say, our names are _not_ in the stimulation plan from the Gov't :( [03:50] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] i have a keyword that almost ensures that a certain number of people in who read it will get up out of their chairs within the next 5 minutes [03:52] ready? [03:53] go [03:53] nicotine [03:53] mine is cafiene [03:56] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:56] nullboy: great, you broke the site [03:56] yeah i have that tendency [03:56] heh, was this on /.? [03:57] i think i found it in Stumble! upon [03:58] well sombody certainly tripped on the web server [03:59] brutal. [03:59] db fail [04:00] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7wnha/more_hword_confusion_a_blog_post_about_clever/c07mcht -- "Laconix I thought you were a lazy version of linux .. slacker than even slackware" [04:00] lol [04:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] yeah nullboy . you broke the site [04:01] =0 [04:02] Ojg (n=org@ojg-laptop.tekproj.bth.se) joined ##slackware. [04:02] im bored [04:02] lets play "compare desktop ss" [04:02] thats old though [04:02] indee [04:02] d [04:03] i am gonna paste mine anyways [04:03] anyone have any recommendations for good IT job sites for the UK? [04:03] dive: UK and job ? [04:03] in this market ? [04:03] well I'm looking [04:03] http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/SlackwareScreenshots#5301385686935917538 [04:04] googled a couple but not much luck [04:04] nullboy: your nicotine "word of the moment" worked with me [04:04] except i did not have to get up :P [04:04] haha [04:06] I am trying my best to learn how to make a copy a "my own store bought dvds for my own backuop purposes" that will play on a stand alone dvd player [04:06] i am failing everytime [04:07] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:07] although my journeys have made sure that i have every dep and codec known to mankind [04:07] k3b works well after you install the various dvd libs [04:07] k3b keeps crashing on me [04:07] sucks eggs here [04:07] dtanner, do you want to actually create a dvd or would converting to avi and saving on disk work? [04:08] dive , I already know how to save to dism in many formats that look real good [04:08] k9copy? [04:08] cos i have some scripts.. [04:08] i need a copy I can burn to dvd that will actually play on my stand alone player [04:08] does it play avi's? [04:08] i could try that k9copy "again" I guess [04:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:08] also try dvd::rip [04:08] dive , could i take alook at those scripts anyways ? [04:09] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/video [04:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] yes i have dvd::rip , i always get a nice playable movie but i can not for the life of me get them burnt onto a dvd that will play on a stand alone player , i am missing something important when i burn [04:09] maybe i should read up on dvdauthor [04:10] dive: thanks [04:10] i do have some scripts that use dvdauthor to recreate dvd but my player will play avi and mpeg now [04:10] arny (n=arny@79.119.150.209) joined ##slackware. [04:10] hi [04:10] easier just to rip and burn avi on a data dvd [04:11] but I could put that script up if you want to try it [04:11] when I've updated it a bit [04:11] ok [04:11] would be much appreciated [04:12] dtanner..... i kept hold of an html doc that works for [04:12] crap.... [04:12] i kept hold of a dvd how [04:12] howto http://pastebin.com/m5f3df22f [04:13] jonsmith1982: sweet, can i have a look at the link [04:13] thanks [04:23] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.173.47.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:32] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [04:35] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:43] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:43] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Connection timed out [04:43] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:43] does anyone know how I can use ssh to establish a tunnel and redirect port 123 to a remote host, and then run ntpdate through this tunnel? [04:44] I already know of ssh's -L switch, but I can't get it to work [04:46] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [04:52] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:54] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [04:54] hello [04:55] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:55] gmorning slackworld [04:56] hows it going this fine fine day? [04:57] there's 30cm snow outside, and the temperature is about -10 celcius, but I'm with my trusty slackware-box enjoying a cup of coffee:) [04:57] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: No route to host [05:05] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [05:08] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.151.126) joined ##slackware. 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[05:33] memunkey (n=w0nd3rd0@pool-71-173-212-156.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:35] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-f7cb1bd2cade04e4) joined ##slackware. [05:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:38] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [05:38] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left ##slackware. [05:39] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-157-56.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:44] morning [05:44] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:48] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.71) joined ##slackware. [05:51] etb (n=wbb@83.212.56.193) joined ##slackware. [05:51] i want to do: sent mail from A user to appear at inbox of B user. im using postfix. how can i do this? [05:54] I don't know postfix, but perhaps making a simple .forward file ? [05:55] echo "user@anotherplace.com" > ~userA/.forward [05:55] try that [05:55] but i want a copy [05:55] dunno - check postfix docs. [05:57] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@tmo-096-101.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@tmo-104-223.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [06:00] luoyi (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-92c15df0a4490581) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.20/2008121709]" [06:05] Srbo__ (n=Srbo@tmo-105-83.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [06:05] v3gard, don't you need sshd running on both machines for ssh tunneling? [06:06] jota_cnp (n=root@201.2.1.38) joined ##slackware. [06:06] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:07] Erm... no. [06:08] i was trying it the other day but no luck. the page on slackwiki about this is very vague. [06:08] dtanner, I've uploaded clonedvd script - it needs some testing though as I haven't used it properly for a while [06:08] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/video [06:09] i was using passwordless logins though maybe that had something to do with it. [06:11] Srbo__ (n=Srbo@tmo-105-83.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:11] Srbo__ (n=Srbo@tmo-104-182.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [06:12] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:12] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [06:12] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@tmo-104-223.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:12] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:13] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:13] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Client Quit [06:13] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[06:38] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] Srbo__ (n=Srbo@tmo-104-182.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:43] gar0t0, brasileiro? [06:43] vncsnvs: yes sir [06:43] gar0t0, novidade por aqui [06:44] gar0t0, ahuahuiahaeihaei [06:44] gar0t0, tu ja viu o apache reiniciar a máquina? [06:44] vncsnvs: entra no #slackware-br :) [06:44] aqui nao se fala portugues [06:44] gar0t0, vlw [06:46] :) [06:47] silasgtcs (n=silasgtc@189.104.79.41) joined ##slackware. [06:49] Is it safe to upgrade slackware 12.1 to 12.2 by slackpkg? 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[06:58] Nick change: jackson -> jackware [07:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-30.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:01] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-100-98.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:02] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:03] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:04] Action: The-Croupier noticed that there are very VERY few women that love guys+technolody :( [07:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-46.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] The-Croupier : guys with technology, or guys and technology? [07:07] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [07:10] that's not true [07:10] at least if the technology is pink [07:11] hi [07:11] hello how can i access email thats not in folder but all in one big text file ? mutt -f foo does not work ? [07:12] ananke: ohh they love the later..the first is wierd [07:14] they love technology and they love guys... they are wierd with guys with technology ;) [07:15] frullet_ (n=hooch@203-158-37-180.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:18] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [07:19] kamaji (n=kamaji@wireless-pat3.wireless.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:26] wheres evryone?! [07:28] frullet (n=hooch@203-158-32-61.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [07:29] Action: slava_dp is at work [07:31] im here [07:31] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:31] Action: kjell is at work aswell [07:32] Action: vinnie_ just got home from work [07:33] sweet [07:33] I'm tired [07:33] yeah... me 2 [07:34] gotta go get my son outa bed. cyall later [07:35] Action: Camarade_Tux is on his ass [07:36] Tobiasket (n=tobiaske@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:82) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Hello [07:36] I'd like to add automaticly an ipv6 address to an interface.. [07:37] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:37] I can add it manually but i can't to add it automaticly [07:38] where do i specify what name displays in from, when i send out mail? [07:39] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.229.238.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [07:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:39] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] kamaji (n=kamaji@wireless-pat3.wireless.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [07:40] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Connection timed out [07:42] The-Croupier2 (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:42] Tobiasket (n=tobiaske@2001:41d0:1:df47:0:0:0:82) left irc: "leaving" [07:44] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.229.238.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [07:45] etb, which program? [07:46] mailx [07:46] or mutt [07:47] in muttrc use from="blabla" [07:47] erm [07:48] set from=fred@bla [07:48] I think you need to have mutt compiled with a special flag to do that [07:48] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:48] mailx you will need specify it on cmd line [07:48] but I'm not sure [07:48] Kaapa, no [07:48] it's a standard feature to be able to set from [07:49] etb, man mailx [07:50] or if you want to set your name 'set realname=' [07:51] echo $realname yields blank [07:52] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:53] etb, set it in .muttrc [07:53] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:54] dive: there isn't a .muttrc in that user's homedir and im wondering where it's set up [07:54] then you need to make one [07:54] cause i sent out a test mail and it reads 'username blah' [07:54] where did he set that [07:55] perhaps it sets it user [07:55] hm? [07:55] like logged in username [07:56] no idea if theres no muttrc [07:56] pointless using mutt without one [07:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:57] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:57] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) joined ##slackware. [07:58] nope it's not the user [07:59] dive: thanks for the clonedvd script [08:00] dtanner, im working on it still though [08:00] i have copydvd which will rip the movie [08:00] and clonedvd will rip with all menus etc [08:00] still playing with that [08:01] jack_ripper (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:01] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:01] hello [08:01] how many partitions does one need for slackware setup? [08:01] 1 [08:02] / and swap [08:02] is swap really necessary? [08:02] I think so [08:02] how much harddrive space do you have? [08:02] total 112gb [08:03] and how much ram? [08:03] 1gb [08:03] yes, you need swap then [08:03] why? [08:03] dive: ok [08:03] so that your system will run when you run out of ram [08:04] ok, how large should the swap be? [08:04] I would do 2 gig, personally [08:04] i have 1 gig swap and the system has never touched it [08:04] this is my first time I am installing slackware so I might need some help, if it is not a problem [08:05] no problem [08:05] dtanner: your system is not running long ? [08:05] long time [08:05] strange [08:05] many apps [08:05] lots of RAM? [08:05] after a few weeks, and suspending, etc., my laptop will hit swap very little on occassion (with 2 gigs of ra) [08:05] 3 Gig yes [08:06] oh [08:06] how large does the hda1 need to be, is it up to me? [08:06] what is the minimum it should be? [08:06] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:07] depending on your install [08:07] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:07] are all 112 gigs for slackware? [08:07] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:07] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:07] personally, I think making a separate /home is good too [08:08] So what kind of partitions should you make? It is always a good idea to make the swap partition first so you specify an exact size for it. It is also a good idea to make seperate partitions for /, /home, and /usr. People will tell you many things about how to divide up your disk, but it really comes down to what you want. (slackware.com) [08:08] all applications store their preferences in /home, so if you ever have to re-install, you can re-use the /home (without formatting) and keep your preferences [08:08] i have 2gig ram and sometimes have swap usage (current user apps running: 2x kedit, xchat, opera, mythtv, 2x kpdf, kopete, konsole, pan, amarok) [08:09] no 50 gb is for windows [08:09] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [08:10] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [08:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:10] the installation process will be simpler if you partition first, then install windows, then slackware [08:13] tank-man right, but how much should I give slackware do you think 10gb is enough? [08:14] jackware (n=jackson@201-75-28-8-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Connection timed out [08:14] Nick change: IceChant -> mib_IceChant [08:14] yes, but why so little? [08:15] Nick change: mib_IceChant -> IceChant [08:16] The-Croupier2 (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:16] don't know? [08:17] I started the computer with gparted and now I can't seem to start gparted [08:17] does anyone know why not? [08:17] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [08:17] I click on the gparted icon but nothing happens [08:17] maybe type it in a terminal [08:17] how [08:17] he clicked on it he said [08:18] :P [08:18] what should I type in the terminal [08:18] gparted [08:18] see what error it gives if it does not start [08:18] it says that it is locked [08:19] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [08:19] are you trying to keep an existing windows installation? [08:19] yes [08:19] ok [08:20] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [08:20] rokuko (n=y0shi@e179129055.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [08:21] jackson (i=1000@201-75-26-129-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:22] dtanner, reuploaded scripts and added a BURNSPEED variable at start - it's set to 4x but you will need to change this depending on media max speed [08:22] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:22] dtanner, do NOT post me your coasters [08:22] :) [08:23] i never have coasters =) [08:23] let me knock on wood [08:23] ouch that hurt [08:24] im gonna try a test burn on dual density disk and see how it goes [08:24] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:24] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:24] theblackbox (n=sam@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [08:24] dive: that remnds me , i need to purchase some dual density blanks [08:25] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [08:25] theblackbox (n=sam@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:25] coaster [08:26] how does one change the hda name? [08:26] hda name? [08:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:26] oh btw - read the comments at start of script and put in paths/devices to burner and mount point etc [08:27] you can use udev to make symlinks [08:27] what file system does the hd need to be in or to install slackware? [08:27] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:27] jack_ripper: nothing [08:27] jack_ripper: you will make that choice during the slackware installation [08:27] jack_ripper, ext3, reiserfs. the installer will ask you. [08:28] ok, thanks [08:30] read the slackbook [08:30] will do, once I have figured out how to install slackware [08:30] rtfm right? [08:31] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:31] jack_ripper, read the slackbook before installing maybe? [08:31] mornin straterra [08:32] dive thanks again [08:32] dtanner, np [08:32] dive: i will let ya know how it turns out [08:32] ok - dont forget to set those vars at start of script [08:32] script looks like it should do the job, i need to get vobcopy the i will give it a go [08:32] dive: yeah [08:32] yeah vobcopy is on sbo [08:33] and dvdauthor too [08:33] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:34] I have 3 partitions and I want to name the /dev/hda2 1 and 3 to 1 2 and 3 how can I do that? [08:34] from gparted? [08:35] jack_ripper, you would need to make a udev rule to do that but it is pointless really [08:35] just remember which is whoich [08:35] good advice =) [08:35] ok, thanks [08:36] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) joined ##slackware. [08:37] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@71-90-99-251.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com expired. [08:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@71-90-99-251.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:37] jack_ripper, anyway once your fstab is set up you will be addressing them by mountpoint path, not by device name directly [08:38] is mlocate faster than slocate? [08:38] monstro (i=monstro@201-92-48-145.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Hi all, [08:38] no idea etb [08:38] hello monstro [08:39] Which is aplication to much used for ftp server in slackware?Which is aplication to much used for ftp server in slackware? [08:40] two messages, ops. [08:41] i think proftp is a good choice but there are others [08:41] monstro vsftp [08:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] that including salckware [08:42] both included [08:42] Yeah. thanks. [08:45] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [08:46] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:47] thanks for the help so far, i gots to go, cheers :) [08:47] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [08:47] jack_ripper (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left ##slackware. [08:47] gnubien (n=e@230.255.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:49] does any one know how to improve battery duration in slackware? and why it consuming too much power? [08:49] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:50] tntslack, do you have a cpu freq governor setup? [08:51] i think yes [08:51] i can run my laptop on silent mode [08:52] 800mhz per core... [08:52] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:52] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [08:52] how much battery time do you get? [08:52] what you read /usr/src/linux-2.6.21.5/Documentation/laptop-mode.txt ? [08:53] tntslack: which laptop ? [08:53] amilo pa 1510 FSC [08:53] what == have [08:53] with bright low wifi off about 1 hour and 50 minute [08:54] stitchman no, did not read that [08:54] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [08:55] i get around 2+ hours with cpu running at 600mhz but it's single core [08:55] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [08:55] if you have dual then that sounds reasonable to me [08:55] in windows i run about 3 hours... [08:56] hmm [08:56] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:56] i have acpi too stitchman so, i think it should run laptop mode automatically [08:56] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:57] don't need to config any thing in kernel for that... [08:58] have you set /proc/sys/vm/laptop-mode to any values? [08:59] nop [08:59] tntslack, what is output of 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' [08:59] there is no such mode... [08:59] and cpu1 [08:59] node? [08:59] ondemand [09:00] check fan control is auto too [09:00] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [09:00] and module loaded for it [09:00] fan control is on the bios i think [09:01] don't need to load that module... [09:01] there should be a module for it too [09:01] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:02] where are thous modules? [09:02] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:02] maybe its the harddrive usage [09:02] personally i compiled ondemand into my kernel [09:02] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [09:02] i can config that via klaptop [09:03] performance profile [09:04] you might want to try out a lighter desktop than kde too [09:04] xfce for example perhaps [09:04] or flux [09:04] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:04] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] i don't remember exactly, but was same... [09:06] Is it safe to upgrade slackware 12.1 to 12.2 by slackpkg? updating kernel and KDE too... [09:06] 96% battery and 1:14 minute left... ffs [09:07] silasgtcs, yes a few of us have done it that way [09:07] silasgtcs, just remember to edit your lilo.conf and run lilo after [09:08] i know this is an odd question... Is there something I can add to xorg.conf to display the nvidia logo for a longer period of time? [09:08] Ok. Tank's [09:08] arny (n=arny@79.119.150.209) left irc: "Leaving" [09:08] dive. 90% and 50 minute only... how you can explain it for me ? [09:08] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: "Saindo" [09:09] hey guys, hexedit i remeber had a gui.. the one i downloaded from the sbo..doesnt ... been looking for one and slackware and i get to hexedit and ht...could someone comment on how to make it guistyle? or some other one? i have a hex-file that needs translated..cannot do it by hand..too big [09:09] thank's [09:09] tntslack, no idea other than checking cpu usage, fan speed, hd access... [09:09] monstro (i=monstro@201-92-48-145.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [09:10] i have now full bright and wife on and lan one.. and is same... [09:10] lan on* [09:10] and got compiz on too... [09:11] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Nick change: AbortRet1yFail -> AbortRetryFail [09:11] also,after swapon -a /dev/sda1 ...after reboot,and running free,i get that swap is not working again.. is there a save option? or do i add it in fstab? [09:11] grpahics card accell with compiz could eat up power too [09:12] The-Croupier, put it in fstab [09:12] /dev/sda1 swap swap defaults 0 0 [09:12] kjell (i=kjellkod@cpe-217-208-253-54.it-roteln.narkotikapolisen.se) left irc: Connection timed out [09:14] dive: thought the bastard would be that easy, just couldnt afford breaking it at this point ;) THANK YOU! [09:14] np [09:15] could someone help with a hex-editor/decrypter? [09:16] name? [09:16] i usually use shed but its not gui [09:16] The-Croupier: this might not help you but i know mc have a hex editor [09:16] or at least some sort of hexy thing [09:17] The-Croupier, you sure that was hexedit had a gui? [09:17] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-170-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:18] dive: completely [09:18] hmm [09:18] anyway I gtg [09:18] everylivecd i used,gnome,xfce...it had a guy [09:18] guy/gui [09:18] let me know later if you find anything [09:18] dive should i enable APM mode? [09:18] tntslack, not with acpi [09:19] acpi > apm [09:19] acpi > ap, [09:19] acpi > apm [09:19] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-158-164-109.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:19] The-Croupier: the only graphical hex editors I know are khexedit and okteta [09:19] ok then, thanks :) [09:19] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] stitchman: could be khexedit [09:19] :( [09:19] tntslack i still think most of your battery life is going into your hard drive, check out that laptop mode stuff, and read it til the end [09:20] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] The-Croupier: will mc's hex mode do what you need? [09:21] stitchman: i have a hexfile..need to translate it to ascii...some encryption in it i think as well...not figured out what yet [09:21] Action: The-Croupier is reading about it as we speak [09:22] stitchman ok, i will do it right now. will report back if there is some thing. [09:22] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-158-164-109.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] stitchman: looking for khexedit..but nothing in tgz...(at work not much time to create) :( damn this time is flying... [09:29] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [09:29] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:32] stitchman hey [09:32] done it [09:32] and it's work!!! [09:32] thank you dude! [09:32] 75% and 1 hour now [09:32] befor was 90% and 50 minute [09:36] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:43] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] v4nelle (n=van@adsl89-15.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:48] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:48] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:53] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:53] stitchman thank you again, now i can take my slackware on the road too :D [09:54] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:58] tntslack: try checking out powertop too, with some kernel work it can tell you a lot about how to squeeze out more battery life [10:01] hackedhead is that only for Inter processors ? [10:01] Intel* [10:01] i got AMD Turion [10:01] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [10:04] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] tntslack: not that i am aware, should work on anything [10:06] absyrtus (i=mitza@89.123.123.184) joined ##slackware. [10:06] hackedhead ok, will check it now to see how is working, thanks btw [10:06] it is advertised as program for intel based laptops [10:07] it's made by the guy more popular for the 5 seconds boot on eeepc 90x [10:08] kjell (i=kjellkod@cpe-217-208-253-54.it-roteln.narkotikapolisen.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:08] The-spiki: hmm, yeah i guess it advertised for intel [10:08] absyrtus (i=mitza@89.123.123.184) left ##slackware. [10:08] it seems like it should be able to do some things on any system with CONFIG_TIMER_STATS and acpi though... [10:08] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] he works in intel... i've seen Linus bashed him for having couleges that made the "new (at the time) kernel will brick your intel network card" fiasco possible... ofcourse fedora, mandriva, ubuntu, opensuse etc users were bitten by it :) [10:10] kjell (i=kjellkod@cpe-217-208-253-54.it-roteln.narkotikapolisen.se) joined ##slackware. [10:12] btw, i'm not saying it will not work with amd machines... don't have enough knowledge of that area [10:12] amorette (n=amorette@124.49.51.183) joined ##slackware. [10:12] apart installing powertop on a few laptops just to see the reports etc :) [10:13] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:16] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [10:17] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Salve a tutti [10:17] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:23] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [10:25] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[10:49] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:49] so uh, if I want a utf8 X terminal, and I don't want to use Terminal because it's a bit bloated and crashing one could crash all of them, and I want CJK, where do I need to be going with this [10:50] P2E, [10:50] you want mlterm, I do believe it's available in SBo [10:51] 4 [10:51] Or uxterm which is in Slackware 12.2 [10:51] alternatively, urxvt [10:51] alienBOB, he wants CJK functionality. I don't believe there's any term out there that supports complex, or CJK scripts other than mlterm [10:52] kama (n=kama@host191-93-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Ficthe: konsole works perfoectly for me with unicode [10:53] And so will uxterm [10:53] erbi_ (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [10:53] kama (n=kama@host191-93-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:53] alienBOB, can you input right-to-left scripts? like Arabic, for example? [10:54] mm, I don't know, I shouldn't be speaking with this much confidence :P mlterm worked for with every script I tried, the others didn't. whatever works for you :) [10:54] At work right now so I can not verify but yes, I have been inputting rtl script [10:55] But I can try to setup a NX client session and check [10:55] Ficthe: urxvt too [10:55] amorette (n=amorette@124.49.51.183) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] and apparently everything in the name of whatever you believe in has to be set to utf8, too [10:56] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[11:37] I used a USB install once on vacation to uncripple a guest computer [11:37] well this is an acer aspire one (little mini-laptop) and he wanted mandriva 2009 but hey it works [11:38] he has no USB CD-ROM so this is a huge linux victory because now he can use a decent OS [11:38] sweet [11:38] i'd rather have any linux distribution than have windows lol [11:38] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:41] usb install on an eee 1000 has been troublesome for me : slack's install would lose the drive in the middle [11:41] I don't think that was because of the 'usb' part of 'usb install' though [11:42] I finally installed with 'installpkg -root /mnt *.tgz' [11:42] evening. [11:42] hi stybla [11:42] Camarade_Tux: hello. [11:44] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:47] limpio: mount -tiso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom # use the proper /dev for your cdrom [11:47] man mount for more info [11:48] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [11:48] thx [11:48] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] np [11:48] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:49] ask & quit. [11:49] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] he'll be back soon, don't worry :D [11:49] foldingstock (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] foldingstock (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] hehe :) i know, there is space missing :p [11:50] missing white space? [11:50] yep [11:51] P4C0 (n=pcuser@200.124.22.34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:51] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [11:53] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] tntslack (n=will@adsl69-179.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Camarade_Tux: may be, he'll read man ;) [11:57] i mean, he did - as he's not comming back. [11:58] Boxxertrumps (n=1TrumpaR@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) joined ##slackware. [11:59] or he fucked up everything and can't come back [11:59] :D [12:00] yay! [12:02] that's not very nice of you, Camarade_Tux :) [12:04] who know what he tried ;) [12:04] perhaps the package he wanted was the man package [12:05] dive, lol [12:06] audacious really annoys me : its volume is always too low, I have to max everything on my mixer to get at least something and I have to max volume on my mp3 player too when I use audacious to transcode, but now in ffplay :) [12:07] dtanner, I just noticed that burner device was hard coded as /dev/hdd - changed and reuploaded [12:07] (and audacious's limitation actually does more damage to my ears since I'm now used to max volume, I also max volume when using files with a higher natural volume) [12:07] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:07] = tinitus [12:09] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [12:10] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [12:10] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [12:11] dive: ok [12:14] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [12:15] arno__ (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] trend (n=trend@97.81.102.39) joined ##slackware. [12:17] fevel_ (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [12:17] i keep getting this in my logs: [3201170.538103] 3w-xxxx: scsi0: AEN: WARNING: ATA UDMA downgrade: Port #0 [12:17] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:17] i have 2x500gb raid 1 array [12:17] do i need to worry about this? [12:17] mdadm --detail /dev/md0 [12:17] i just replaced the hds in it a month ago [12:17] is it showing degraded? [12:17] no [12:18] and that appears to be a kernel driver error [12:18] that's why i haven't worried so far, but was curious [12:18] hdparm might tell you more [12:18] udma is the dma speed the drive is set for [12:18] I'd double-check both drives make sure they are both set to the same udma setting [12:18] oh, ok [12:18] how would i do that? [12:18] hdparm ? [12:19] yeah uhh hang on [12:19] heh, thanks for your help.. you're very kind [12:19] hdparm -d /dev/sda is what I"m assumign you're on [12:19] should tel you if its set or not [12:20] and to find out what the setting is at... [12:20] that just gives me, blank line.. then: /dev/sda: [12:20] doh [12:20] http://pastebin.com/m325c5b05 [12:20] what is your drive? [12:21] /dev/sda? [12:21] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:21] hdparm -i /dev/sda [12:21] ./dev/sda1 [12:21] there should be a line or two int here about UDMA modes [12:21] and show an * next to the mode t is in [12:22] if its showing empty or what not.. you can try: hdparm -d1 /dev/sda [12:22] see if it'll turn it on [12:22] but you want to make sure that both drives in the array have the same settings [12:23] http://pastebin.com/m2dfe5ae5 [12:23] strange [12:23] does it matter it is a pci raid card? [12:23] vs onboard [12:23] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:24] what does: hdparm -i /dev/sda return? [12:24] jojo3003 (n=jojo3003@4504ds4-fb.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:24] jojo3003 (n=jojo3003@4504ds4-fb.0.fullrate.dk) left ##slackware. [12:24] it could be that the raid controller itself needs to have a dma mode set on it.. [12:24] HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument [12:24] heh [12:24] yeah the raid controller is intercepting the hdparm commands it appears [12:25] You'll wanna check with the controller's documentation [12:25] ah, ok [12:25] cool, I can do that.. thanks [12:25] np [12:25] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.161) left irc: Connection timed out [12:28] Boxxertrumps (n=1TrumpaR@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) left ##slackware. [12:29] Wee (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:29] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:30] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [12:32] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-82.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-245-28.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [12:35] cold-afk (n=a23459@cpe-71-79-32-187.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] anyone here i've got issues i can't find an answer for. or maybe looked in the wrong spot [12:36] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Spawny (n=Spawny@CPE0018f8c0dcf3-CM0014e8b5ed84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:37] cold-afk: Don't ask to ask, just ask. [12:37] jkwood, you interupted my mind-meld :( [12:38] Oh, my apologies. I'll just go back over here --> [12:38] coldnick (n=a23459@cpe-71-79-32-187.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] k [12:38] <-- i'll be over here [12:39] o/ [12:40] I won't tell where I'll be, because I don't think anyone cares. :( [12:40] nope still not getting it [12:40] mind-meld fail [12:42] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:42] damn dual layer disks [12:42] Action: dive mumbles something about power calibration fail... [12:43] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn90.78-98-242.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:44] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] In apache when you add a VirtualHost, inside that virtual host you can define a DocumentRoot and it shouldn't conflict with the current documentroot in the main http.conf correct? [12:46] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:49] DArqueBishop (i=drkbish@tyrande.darquecathedral.org) joined ##slackware. [12:49] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] hello all. to delete the line OnlyShowIn=GNOME in the desktop file it's this ? It's not working here: --> sed -d 'OnlyShowIn=GNOME;' $PKG/usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop [12:52] Sorry if this may sound like a stupid question, but is DB.php not included in Slack 12.2's build of PHP? [12:52] Old_Fogie: Hey dude! Acer came out with their 10.1" netbooks. (may have been out a while, i just saw it today) [12:53] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [12:53] agentc0reWORK, I believe they just started shipping iirc from a news article [12:54] Old_Fogie: Im glad i waited, i think i'm going to pick one of those up. They are just $20 more than the one i was going to get anyways :D [12:54] agentc0reWORK, yeah for sure. I think they only have the 4gig or was it 8gb HD's tho, either way, I'd probably see about a bigger drive [12:54] cold-afk (n=a23459@cpe-71-79-32-187.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:54] Old_Fogie, try sed -i '...' [12:55] dive, with the 's' command and have nothing on the right part of it. [12:55] ? [12:55] sed -i 'd/blabla/' [12:55] d/ = delete [12:55] ahaaa! ok [12:56] -i = inplace [12:56] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-66-142-212-112.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] fevel_ (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:58] I've just upgraded from Slack 10.2 (with custom built PHP and Apache) to Slack 12.2 (using distro's PHP and Apache). When trying to run SquirrelMail (which worked before), I get an error saying that DB.php is not available. I checked the old PHP install paths and found it there, but not in the official distro. [12:58] I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something before I try to fix manually. :-) [12:58] Ah, figured it out. I had remembered someone in mentioning about how Their first virtual host had to be the servers document root. :D [12:59] DArqueBishop, did you recompile squirrelmail for 12.2 or install the old package you had for 10.1? [12:59] dive: SquirrelMail doesn't require compilation. It's a drop in and configure piece of software. [12:59] ah [12:59] SquirrelMail is a PHP-based webmail program. [13:00] dive, I tried with a copy of that desktop file on my "Desktop" here with # sed -i 'd/OnlyShowIn=GNOME;/' ./gnomecc.desktop <--gives--> sed: -e expression #1, char 2: extra characters after command [13:00] yeah I knew but I haven't set it up yet [13:00] Old_Fogie, the ; could be messing it up [13:00] try escaping it [13:00] \ \; [13:00] erm \; [13:00] ok [13:01] also the = [13:01] maybe [13:01] same thing : sed -i 'd,OnlyShowIn\=\GNOME\;,' gnomecc.desktop [13:01] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [13:01] why ,s ? [13:02] sed -i 'd/OnlyShowIn\=GNOME\;/' gnomecc.desktop [13:02] good question, dont know why I thought to use it :) [13:02] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-245-28.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:02] nope same thing [13:02] ah, screw it [13:03] I'll rm the desktop and cat $CWD/gnomecc.desktop.modified >..... [13:03] wait a sec [13:03] in the slackbuild :) [13:03] you sure [13:03] ? [13:03] I dont want to kill ya :) [13:03] on time [13:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Old_Fogie: what are you trying to do, exactly? :) [13:05] oh this works sed -i 's,OnlyShowIn=GNOME;,#OnlyShowIn=GNOME;,' gnomecc.desktop [13:05] it comments it out [13:05] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] thrice`, I wanted to have the gnome-control-center desktop icon actually show up in the gnome menus. [13:06] Old_Fogie, sorry I'm wearing my retard hat today: [13:06] sed -i "/OnlyShowIn\=GNOME/d" [13:06] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.148.42.194) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] thrice`, by default they have it as shown in gnome only, but when I use XFCE, some gnome stuff does come into action, so access to that gnome control center is nice for those minor tweaks that may arise [13:06] the d comes after [13:06] dive, ah well let me try that anyway, I need to learn this obviously :) [13:06] and you don't need to put the ; [13:07] DArqueBishop: I think you're missing the required perl modules. [13:08] dive, aha yes that did work. starting up kjots now for my sed section, thanks again. [13:08] np [13:08] bob_vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:08] DArqueBishop: try running perl -MCPAN -e 'install DB' (I think thats the correct syntax. [13:08] Action: Old_Fogie wishes the man page had a few examples for people like me. then again, it wouldn't be a page, it'd be a book for sed. so many options I suppose. [13:09] Old_Fogie, there are a few examples in the advanced bash script guide [13:09] Old_Fogie: HAH. Isn't there an online sed manual anyways? Kind of like the Advanced Bash manual? [13:10] Old_Fogie, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html [13:10] josemanuel (n=josemanu@220.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:10] dive, ah thanks [13:10] Heh, thats the book i was thinking about. [13:10] hrm, how do i kill a screen process the right way? just exit while its attached? [13:10] I had the PDF version printed off and made into a book for myself. [13:11] agentc0reWORK, I hear that. You should see the amount of stuff I've printed. I've got auto mechanic notebooks here, like 5" thick binders. Now I gotta read them more often :) [13:13] There's no Perl module just called "DB". [13:13] much easyer to develop a photo optic memory that read all the time [13:13] hmm how much would it cost to print the advanced scripting guide at staples? ive always wondered that [13:13] how many pages? [13:13] By the way, again, stupid question... but this is a PHP error. Why would Perl be involved? [13:14] i printed off probably 6k or 7k pages of seminar at ups store for 120-150$ I think [13:14] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] stitchman, to exit screen I usually log out of every 'window' [13:20] that's an awful lot of money for a book [13:20] Nick change: sinkigobopo_ -> sinkigobopo [13:21] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Action: Camarade_Tux is gonna buy an ebook, a 10-yo ebook... [13:21] ? [13:22] we had ebooks 10 years ago? [13:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [13:22] yeah and they are the only one under 100$ [13:22] yes [13:22] ouch.. [13:22] I prefer printed books myself [13:22] otherwise they're like 300-400$ and up to 600$ [13:22] thats a lot of money. [13:23] is it normal for a system to grind to a near halt when the OOM killer starts shooting? [13:23] I had the Advanced Bash script PDF printed off at Fedex/Kinko's and made into a book with hard binder for only about $50. [13:23] Totally worth it. [13:23] I want something for pdf files and printing myself would be as expensive and much less-convenient (way too long) [13:24] the new Sony reader is supposed to be very good. I don't care for SOny as a rule but it looks like a decent product [13:25] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:25] but look at the price =/ [13:25] I read on the website of an ebook vendor a poll said the price of ebooks had to be cut in half for them to be successful [13:25] I think it was about $350 [13:26] coldnick (n=a23459@cpe-71-79-32-187.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [13:26] DArqueBishop: Yes there is. THere is somethign wrong with my syntax. This works though, perl -MCPAN -e shell, and then type install DB [13:26] 350$ ...270¬ :D [13:27] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre/20090207000555]" [13:28] most pdas or even an iphone is good enough for me to read an ebook on [13:28] any Canucks here on Telus Mobility? or Rogers Wireless? [13:29] an iphone is gonna cost much more :D [13:29] I've read books on my Palm . It's better than no book at all but ... [13:30] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:31] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [13:32] hmmm, I think I'm gonna enjoy the £ <-> ¬ conversion rate :) [13:32] i am on rogers [13:32] i read books on a gp2x [13:32] rogers sux [13:32] the old palms were mono, low contrast, narrow, and dark [13:32] having a wider backlit display does the trick for me [13:34] unrelated, in webkit-gtk, 'soup' backend is now the default [13:35] I dont own any ebooks, but I've been using my netbook alot for things like that, just the right size. alt key plus f11 going full scrreen even nicer, plus you can play some background music is nice. [13:35] Camarade_Tux, as in 'libsoup' the http lib used in gnome? [13:35] my laptop is too heavy (3kgs) and doesn't have enough battery life [13:35] Old_Fogie, yeah [13:35] but iirc latest versions of libsoup don't need gnome* anymore [13:36] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:36] Camarade_Tux: can you, please, give me some example of ebook you'd buy? [13:36] libsoup-2.23.1-i486-1_ <--- no depends over slack 12.1 or 12.2 [13:36] Camarade_Tux, ^^ [13:36] Nick change: bob_vncsnvs -> vncsnvs [13:36] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:37] stybla, none, I want them for docs, maths and programming (the part of programming that looks like maths actually ;) ) [13:37] Action: NyteOwl has come to the conclusion talking to people that ALL cell companies suck. Now in the process of trying to find the one that sucks least. [13:37] and if it has a notebook function, that's even better :) [13:38] Old_Fogie, I'm making webkit-gtk cross-compile to windows, I'm really really scared about gnome deps :p [13:39] Camarade_Tux: what do you mean by 'none'? don't you know what do you want to buy? [13:39] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:39] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [13:39] Camarade_Tux, I can see the need for alarm. I've not checked for libsoup, but there are many gnome binaries prebuilt for windows you can download and use at gnome's site. [13:40] stybla, no, I just don't intend to buy any, I want to use it for free content [13:40] this is some phone (at the price it had better be) http://www.telusmobility.com/ns/mike/handset_i365is.shtml [13:40] Camarade_Tux: i thought you were talking about device to read e-books. [13:41] stybla, and .pdf files ;) [13:41] Camarade_Tux: yes, i'm expecting name of the device [13:41] ;) [13:42] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] DArqueBishop: maybe the best way to get that module is to just download it. it's a pear module, so you could also try that way. google DB.php and it's the first thing that came up for me. [13:43] Old_Fogie, I'm making webkit-gtk cross-compile to windows <--- then again, I'd be more scared about the Windows :) [13:45] stybla, I'm currently googling ;) [13:45] Old_Fogie, cross-compiling ! \o/ [13:47] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:48] amiralul (n=claudiu@tei4-ap2.bizarnet.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hello. how can I see my full 4GB of RAM in Slackware? isn't the hugemem (or something) compile dinto hugesmp kernel? [13:49] *compiled into [13:49] "dual boot netbooks" ? <-- is that an M$ tax or what ? /me takes off the tin-foil hat :) [13:49] ^^ at dell for sale [13:49] amiralul: run 64-bit [13:50] no can do in 32? [13:50] using PAE, sure, but it's quite hackish [13:51] how much is actually showing up? [13:51] you shouldn't need 64-bit to see 4 GB [13:51] I remember there is some option in kernel, hugemem, that allow me to see beyond 3GB [13:51] free reports 3044956 [13:51] also, my BIOS too [13:52] but my Vista x64 and my MacOS can see the full 4GB [13:52] Slackware's not 64 bit [13:52] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) joined ##slackware. [13:52] you digg? [13:53] Old_Fogie: I know it's not 64 bit, but I also know that I don't need a 64 bit Linux to see 4GB of RAM. Am I wrong? [13:53] bijit (n=benji@201.198.72.142) left irc: "leaving" [13:53] yup [13:53] how about HUGEMEM in kernel? [13:53] amiralul, thrice` already told you :) [13:53] I may have fixed the lockup. ;). I believe my video card is going to crap, in addition to the memory. The segfault from mplayer was unrelated to the lockup, but still hardware related. Now I need a new video card and new RAM. :o [13:54] amiralul, try the slamd64 a fork of slack for 64 bits [13:54] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:54] amiralul, remember tho 64bit OS's have twice the errors of 32 bit OS's so ymmv :) [13:54] How many GB RAM can be seen in a regular 32 bit Linux? [13:55] ROKO__ (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) joined ##slackware. [13:55] kjell: 64GB+, if you configure the kernel properly. But it won't be the same as using 64bit. [13:55] mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed [13:55] error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' [13:55] help [13:55] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [13:56] ROKO__: You probably have to be using a password? [13:56] sajes: I knew it! see Old_Fogie? [13:56] so, basically, slamd64 is the Slackware on 64 bits, nothing less? [13:56] Pretty much [13:56] amiralul, well all I can tell you is, it's been discussed here numerous times, and people smarter than I dont recommend it [13:57] Slamd64 is NOT slackware [13:57] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "vagabundando" [13:57] alienBOB: <3 :D [13:57] alienBOB: I am aware of that [13:57] It is not even slackware recompiled for 64bit [13:57] 13:53 amiralul, try the slamd64 a fork of slack for 64 bits [13:57] alienBOB: how..isn't it? [13:57] alienBOB: Got hilight on "slamd64"? :D [13:57] straterra, multilib I suppose [13:57] the-zandi (n=zandi@68-188-163-247.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] multilib yes, plus additional packages [13:58] That doesn't make it "not even slackware recompiled for 64bit" [13:58] What additional packages? [13:58] Software versions at other levels in some cases [13:58] Such as? [13:58] straterra: I am not talking to you [13:58] And why is that? [13:58] Because I would like to know more about this claim you make? [13:58] Because of you [13:59] Care to ellaborate? [13:59] No claim, it is as I say [13:59] http://letmeresearchthatforyou?slamd64vslackware/\stock?vs*addon-packages.html [13:59] It IS a claim until you actually..you know..cite something [13:59] Action: Old_Fogie takes off wise-guy hat [13:59] straterra: now I wonder if you actuall ever even looked at the slamd64 tree [14:00] I have. Just because you say something doesn't make it true, btw [14:00] Correct. [14:00] Camarade_Tux: ok :) [14:00] straterra: Nonsense. The sky is green. :) [14:00] Which is exactly why I asked which packages [14:00] I have nothing against Slamd64 mid you. But it is not Slackware recompiled for 64bit [14:00] Old_Fogie: is thhat lined with tin foil? :) [14:00] How isn't it? [14:00] NyteOwl, oh you know it is :) [14:01] he used all of the slackbuild scripts from slackware, so other than bootstrapping the toolchain, seems that way to me. I also don't know of any software verion differences [14:01] Cannot load mcrypt extension. Please check your PHP configuration. [14:01] The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret). [14:01] well windows is slackware compile for ntos kernel, would I have to prove that ? [14:01] @_@ [14:01] s/windows is/windows isnt [14:01] thrice`: I don't know of any either..thats why I asked..but..he isn't talking to me, so... [14:02] maybe he'll talk to you [14:02] i'm more curious than doubting [14:02] I'm curious too [14:02] Spawny (n=Spawny@CPE0018f8c0dcf3-CM0014e8b5ed84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving WooHoo 7 NU «» 2007" [14:02] Note I never said he was wrong :) [14:03] I'm not sure but I think it's like GNOME in that it uses/requires slightly newer versions of some things than are used in Slack [14:04] shadow is a package at a different software level for instance [14:04] gnome does yea, libwnck , glib to name two [14:05] In /extra there are non-slackware packages. And all of the "c" series is not in Slackware [14:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:05] extra is extra.. [14:05] Cryp71c (n=root@161.45.111.50) joined ##slackware. [14:05] I'm not quite sure I'd count extra [14:05] and obviously the c series isn't in Slackware [14:05] You can easily ommit the whole series, though [14:06] So - slamd64 is not "slackware recompiled" [14:06] Right? [14:06] It really is [14:06] so, to summarize, to get 4GB, it is recommended a non-Slackware distro rather then messing with the kernel? [14:06] Cryp71c (n=root@161.45.111.50) left irc: Client Quit [14:06] There are newer versions/patches where needed [14:06] Neede straterra? [14:06] Pat sticks to Slackware as close as technilogically possible. [14:06] err, Fred^^ [14:07] Even to the point of if its broken in Slackware..its usually broken in slamd64 [14:08] well, it's a shame to not recommend it to others in need of larger memory visibility [14:08] All over a different shadow version and /extra [14:08] O I am not against suggesting it to people [14:08] Just, do not tell them it is a 64bit Slackware [14:08] oh; you seemed to take offense when it was suggested [14:09] thrice`: ^^ [14:09] No one said it was 64-bit Slackware [14:09] I said it was "pretty much" [14:09] alienBOB: i've never claimed that :) [14:09] so, basically, slamd64 is the Slackware on 64 bits, nothing less? [14:09] Pretty much [14:09] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] Yes..pretty much [14:09] Cryp71c (n=root@161.45.111.50) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Action: Old_Fogie read this as a clarification " Slamd64 is NOT slackware" [14:09] How can I tell if a particular package is installed? [14:09] I haven't claimed it, I asked it :) [14:09] Cryp71c: check /var/log/packages/ [14:09] I believe Slamd64 is "pretty much" 64-bit Slackware [14:09] agentc0reWORK: yeah, it would figure that I would overlook the easy fix. [14:10] BP{k}, thx [14:10] It's working now... thank you! :-) [14:10] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:11] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [14:19] is there a way to have bzip2 create the output file in a directory that isn't cwd? [14:20] bzip3 -c and then redirect using > ? [14:21] xsamurai (n=fox@125.161.172.172) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] I can haz bzip4? ;) [14:21] "bzip3", yeah :D [14:21] Camarade_Tux: thanks [14:22] BP{k}, sure but it costs 200¬ :) [14:24] b00jit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Cryp71c (n=root@161.45.111.50) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.149.174) joined ##slackware. [14:25] bzip2 foo.bz2 -c > /path/to/wherever/file should work. [14:26] indeed [14:26] my situation was having a filesystem that is nearing critical capacity and it contains a few large files that will compress very well but i don't have enough free space to compress. So, i need to compress and create the output on a different filesystem [14:26] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.149.174) left irc: Client Quit [14:27] nullboy, tmpfs! [14:27] poor system has 512MB of ram [14:27] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [14:27] How large are we talking? You could receive better compression using tar | bzip2 rather than individually compressing each file. [14:28] i' [14:28] And yes, I thought about tmpfs. :^) [14:28] i'm talking like 160GB large [14:28] WOW! [14:28] yeah [14:28] WTF kind of file is that?! [14:28] nullboy, i got 8GB and OOM killer brought my system to a near halt today... [14:28] thats going to take a while to compress.. [14:28] L0N350LDI3R (n=ango@unaffiliated/ango) joined ##slackware. [14:28] takes over 8 hours [14:28] I'd multipart that bitch..or use lzma [14:28] nullboy, pbzip2 ! [14:28] L0N350LDI3R (n=ango@unaffiliated/ango) left ##slackware ("I went outside once.. the graphics are not that good"). [14:28] nullboy: It'd take over 9000 hours on my machine. [14:28] edman007: i tried that but on a P4 HT system...no [14:29] new system! [14:29] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "leaving" [14:29] it's hard disk image server and i need these images to be around but i don't need them to be quickly accessible [14:29] You'd probably be better off just using gzip. [14:30] Action: straterra buys nullboy some LT04 tapes [14:30] seriously [14:30] i wish [14:30] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:30] I <3 our LT04's [14:30] Granted, I've never compressed a file that large before, but IME bzip2's compression advantage isn't worth the penalty in speed, particularly on older systems. [14:31] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-8-139.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:31] straterra: those tapes units look awesome [14:32] Action: Alan_Hicks just uses hard drives and rsync instead of tapes. [14:32] nullboy: we have a library at this location [14:32] 20 tapes o.O [14:32] all barcoded [14:32] Camarade_Tux: this ¬, what is this strange monopoly money? ;) [14:33] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:33] nullboy: do you know about rzip? http://rzip.samba.org/ [14:33] sounds interesting and would probably work really well for 160GB files that are usually ~40% free space [14:33] spiral_arch (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [14:34] DArqueBishop: Heh, it's okay. So i guess that fixed it for ya huh? [14:34] bzip2 is turning 40GB image files in 21GB files [14:35] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] BP{k}, you mean the one that is much stronger than $ and £ ? :D [14:35] just md5'ing the images prior to compressing is brutal for this P4 [14:36] ROKO__ (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] what's a p4? didn't bill gates write dos on that? :P [14:36] heh [14:36] this one is hand cranked too [14:36] lol [14:36] no that was this old 386 sitting here [14:37] Caamit's still monopoly money ;) [14:37] Heh, i remember playing X-wing on my old 386. [14:37] hmm tap/lag fail. [14:37] hey! my main PC is a P4 *without* HT [14:37] heh [14:37] wow [14:37] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Camarade_Tux: it's still monopoly money ;) [14:38] my server is 1600xp amd proc.. so ruffly around there [14:38] i just played extremetuxracer for the first time.. it is kinda addicting although it is not UT or Q3a [14:38] BP{k}, caamit ? [14:38] jerojasro ? which model is that ? 0_o [14:38] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:39] Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz [14:39] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.135.62) joined ##slackware. [14:39] i think you can drop the (R) [14:39] Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [14:39] those are only good for 10 or 15 years :P [14:40] just messing w/ you jero.. my cpu is 2ghrtz [14:40] Camarade_Tux: ssh lag and tab failure on my behalf. [14:41] Nick change: r0b_ -> r0b [14:42] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:43] BP{k}, hehe ;) [14:43] I'm starting to wonder if P4A already had HT... [14:43] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] hmmm, it had winMe which doesn't handle several procs iirc [14:43] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [14:45] wow, winMe [14:45] that was a shakey distro [14:45] i thikn i downgraded back to 98 2 months after going w/ that [14:46] xp was nice.. still run it [14:46] shakey ? no, it was lying dead on the floor :p [14:46] heh [14:46] it seemed to be w/ 98 w/ a lot of bugs added [14:46] i don't remember them adding anything in there that was useful [14:47] it was useful [14:47] the cdrom made an excellent coaster ;) [14:47] heh [14:47] winme was like sticky shit on a hot summer afternoon in August [14:48] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:49] amazingly enough i have only found 3 systems in the while that were running ME [14:49] wild** [14:49] nullboy: did you shoot them? ;) [14:50] i keeled them [14:50] did you say.. it puts the lotion in the skin , or it gets the house again? [14:50] that sounded like something out of silence of the lambs [14:52] no, i am sure the silence of the lamb omitted those errors ;) [14:52] heh [14:53] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [14:54] trend (n=trend@97.81.102.39) left ##slackware. [14:54] amiralul (n=claudiu@tei4-ap2.bizarnet.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] lxuser (n=wesnoth@80.246.88.63) joined ##slackware. [14:57] :E [14:59] _therada1 (n=hjhayes@adsl-158-164-109.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] anyone here that knows how I can create slackware-packages using scons? prefix, sysconfdir, destdir and such? [15:00] _therada1 (n=hjhayes@adsl-158-164-109.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:00] wtf is scons? [15:01] ya build system [15:01] (src2pkg could be worth the check) [15:02] v3gard, from my SlackBuild for globulation2: [15:02] scons release=1 -j 3 CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS" INSTALLDIR="/usr/share" BINDIR="/usr/bin" [15:02] scons install INSTALLDIR="$PKG/usr/share" BINDIR="$PKG/usr/bin" [15:02] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:03] lxuser: thanks :) [15:04] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Reconnecting" [15:04] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:05] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl134-70.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] v3gard, i don't know for sure, but it could appear that the author of SConstruct is able to set options he wants. and it seems that there is no unified option list =) [15:06] Samba doesn't start. It just pauses at the point it is supposed to start, at boot time. I can't figure out what could it be. It was working till 2 days ago. How do I start to diagnose this? [15:07] What changed 2 days ago [15:08] One day ago I was tweaking my iptables rules to allow people from specific IP addresses to access Samba. I failed [15:08] typical:) [15:08] heh :D [15:08] I spent yesterday trying to find out what it is, couldn't. [15:09] I am eagerly awaiting ipv6 and samba [15:09] no no, I am on ipv4 [15:09] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [15:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [15:10] I figured that..I meant for ME [15:10] v3gard you mean it's not possible to allow people from over the Internet to access Samba? [15:11] sure it is [15:11] but that is nastier than nasty [15:11] and..most ISP's will filter it [15:11] oh, sorry for the confusion:) i was actually replying to lxuser, but then it seemed my reply did fit your question as well:) lol [15:12] aah lol [15:12] haha [15:12] nullboy by "nasty" you mean insecure? or difficult to do? [15:13] it's not really difficult but it does have serious security issues and is also not the best way to create that type of connectivity over the internet [15:13] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@h51-78.wlan.ucalgary.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:13] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn90.78-98-242.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:13] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-122-188.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] where to find first build of kdelibs? [15:14] nullboy I understand. I wanted to have an easy (for them) way for newbies to drop me files. There is also droopy.py ... [15:14] some trackers still not responding in ktorrent-3 [15:14] nick4: ftp/sftp? [15:15] nullboy erm... I want clueless Windows users to send me files. It's that or Pidgin chocking on MSN transfers :P [15:15] Action: NyteOwl almost ready to give up on cellular :/ [15:15] however, right now Samba doesnt even start [15:15] ftp is usually a good choice :p [15:15] nick4: check your config [15:16] nullboy it just pauses it doesnt say that I have done some mistake [15:16] rule out the firewall being the issue then and flush all your tables [15:17] nullboy no no, you dont understand, the problem is not that i cant access samba from another PC the problem is that Slack freezes when it starts Samba [15:17] .... [15:18] so check your samba config for problems and verify that your firewall, that your just said you were mucking with, isn't blocking access. [15:18] v4nelle (n=van@adsl89-15.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "http://v4nelle.wordpress.com" [15:20] hmmm, should I trust an amazon kindle at 75$ on ebay ... ? [15:21] nick4: testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf [15:21] ok w8 [15:21] no i will not wait [15:23] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [15:24] testparm sais it's ok: http://pastebin.ca/1335233 and I don't understand how some iptable rules can make /usr/sbin/smbd not start [15:24] however I am disabling the firewall script and rebooting [15:25] why rebooting? [15:25] flush the tables and try restarting samba [15:25] ok, wait [15:25] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:25] damnit [15:26] buggery [15:26] nullboy correct, it was an iptables rule, I am wondering what though :-/ [15:26] see i wasn't full of shit [15:26] do you have rules ot allow access to 127.0.0.1 ? [15:27] nullboy: are you going with a linode? [15:27] chopp: soon yeah [15:27] right on. [15:27] nullboy i think I have ommited that. I never said you were full of shit. Maybe full of fluf :P [15:29] agentc0reWORK: worked perfectly. Like I said, it's just like me to miss the obvious solution. :-) [15:29] Camarade_Tux, what is an amazon kindle may I ask? [15:29] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] dive, an ebook reader [15:29] ah [15:29] chopp: i want a 360 in california but they only have 540s and 720s free right now [15:30] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [15:30] hello, somebody can help me to suspend (acpi) slackware? [15:30] josemanuel (n=josemanu@220.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:32] gabriel__: save your work first but you can test it with this: echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state [15:32] mmmm [15:32] let's see [15:32] nullboy: yeah might as well wait for one to come up I guess hey. I'm really happy with mine, even if I don't use it for much other than screen/irssi yet. [15:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] in a few minutes we will see: gabriel__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:33] :) [15:33] lol [15:33] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] nullboy thanks [15:33] gabriel__: worked? [15:33] yeah baby [15:33] jeje [15:33] awesome [15:33] :) [15:34] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [15:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-339000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. 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[15:46] damn kids [15:46] I have come to conclusion that the mencoder manpage is very informative and scary [15:46] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:50] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:51] effing wifi [15:51] [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 14.3 MBytes 11.9 Mbits/sec [15:52] dtanner, ever tried 'man gcc' ? :D [15:55] something seems ot work much better in 2.6.28.* regarding ath5k [15:56] i had a card that would slowly ramp up latency times as i let it sit connected but now it works fine [15:58] p4ch0 (n=p4ch0@190.69.224.12) joined ##slackware. [15:58] macavity: are there some patches i should apply to ath5k if i am using 2.6.28.4 or are the patches you use now included? [15:59] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:01] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:01] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) joined ##slackware. [16:02] has anybody experienced with the kernel's [16:02] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] 'TCP: advanced congestion control' options ? [16:04] for instance I use TCP Westwood+ which help text reads : 'TCP Westwood+ significantly increases fairness wrt TCP Reno in wired networks and throughput over wireless links.' (Reno is the default one) [16:04] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] p4ch0 (n=p4ch0@190.69.224.12) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [16:12] jkwood, you about? [16:13] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:15] gut (n=gut@189.23.192.2) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [16:16] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:17] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:17] nullboy1 (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Nick change: nullboy1 -> nullboy [16:17] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [16:19] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] macavity: fragmentation patch is a must [16:19] damn! [16:20] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] nullboy, what is it ? [16:20] fixes fragmentation in mac80211 for kernel wifi support [16:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] without the patch it barely works at all [16:22] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Chance22 (n=chance@75-27-143-63.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:24] straterra (n=straterr@2001:470:8a81:0:0:0:0:2) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:25] I *find* the Westwood+ congestion algorithm really improved my wireless experience (tm) [16:25] ;) [16:26] really? [16:26] I have found that some cards perform very poorly with WPA but work fine with WEP. [16:26] on both Linux and Windows [16:26] what happens when they perform poorly? low bandwidth? [16:27] low bandwidth, dropped connections, reports of high noise [16:27] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] pi31415: i've seen that too [16:27] alienBOB, the problem with ktorrent still present. Konqueror and Dolphin can't handle ftp also. [16:27] i think most of the time the issue is the drivers [16:28] nullboy, I get ok or more-than-ok connectivity where the signal used to drop, it can be worth a try [16:28] I think someone had the right idea years ago when they told me to treat wireless like the Internet and tunnel through it with vpn software [16:28] Camarade_Tux: i'm rebuilding right now to test [16:28] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [16:28] for those intersted, it's under Networking support -> Networking options -> TCP/IP networking -> TCP: advanced congestion control [16:30] the description sounds nice [16:31] I forgot to google that :) [16:32] nullboy: if you say so... [16:33] that's fine mr stuffy pants [16:33] I see they've released a FF extension, anyone tried it? Does it work? http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ [16:33] however i cant get fragmentation to work.. perhaps ive been too far from the target APs [16:33] chopchop works every time though [16:34] just make sure its a big package :P [16:34] the kind of big UDPs you get from youtube are execlent to generate an xor file that will suffice for mostly anything [16:35] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [16:36] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [16:36] the only thing I want silverlight for is Netflix, which, like most stuff, has already moved on to 1.0 [16:36] er, moved on to 2.0 [16:38] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.113) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:40] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. 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[16:50] I notice the difference when the link would otherwise be nearly nil [16:50] snorks (n=stig@cpc1-tref2-0-0-cust829.cdif.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware. [16:50] snorks (n=stig@cpc1-tref2-0-0-cust829.cdif.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [16:50] test [16:51] can't see you, reconnect [16:51] lxuser: I have a working ktorrent here (downloading a torrent atm) and dolphin shows ftp://ftp.slackware.com/ without issues [16:51] This with the latest kdelibs (with one patch reverted) [16:51] yes [16:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lxuser: "yes"? [16:53] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:53] i have latest kdelibs package installed [16:54] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [16:54] nullboy, lol [16:55] OK. I have no issues. But I do not run the official packages, I compile all of them myself on a "shadow system" so to speak [16:55] Currently no official slackware-current installation at hand to test [16:56] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [16:58] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [16:59] parhelion (n=parhelio@c-76-27-88-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] NyteOwl_ (n=sysop@hlfx47-128.ns.sympatico.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:00] alienBOB, is there any mirror where to get kdelibs-4.2.0-i486-1.tgz ? [17:00] parhelion (n=parhelio@c-76-27-88-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] has 4.2 even gone in -current yet? [17:01] in testing [17:01] all of them alredy ships -3.tgz. [17:01] macavity, it has [17:01] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:03] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. 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[17:51] (ther than a blackberry) [17:52] hmmm, SIGSTOP, 19 [17:52] and SIGCONT/18 to continue [17:53] man i just sooo suck at shellscripting [17:53] fluxnuk3r (n=server@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] hello [17:53] hi fluxnuk3r [17:54] spiral_arch (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] hey dive, long time no "see" [17:54] it is really really obvious that i picked the wrong tool for the job.. yet i refuse to give up [17:54] macavity, what are you trying to script [17:54] ? [17:54] user6980 (n=user7232@ppp-69-223-55-62.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:54] fluxnuk3r, updated the cu20.theme and others [17:54] macavity, start all your scripts with [17:54] set -o pipefail [17:54] set -o errexit [17:54] Channel flood from Camarade_Tux -- kicking [17:54] set -o nounset [17:54] Camarade_Tux kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:54] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-60-20.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:55] and I was going to type 'yeah, I avoided slackboy's kicking ! \o/' :D [17:55] I've got a problem: fdisk doesn't read any drives whatsoever. I have an ide cdrom, and a sata terabyte hard drive [17:55] the cdrom is set to master in case that makes a difference [17:55] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:55] dive: a buildscript/build system... but my mindset is locked to how things work in C [17:55] cdrom on same ide as hdd? [17:56] hdd is sata. cdrom is ide [17:56] if hdd is sata, then something is wrong [17:56] macavity, yeah bash does seem strange after C [17:56] macavity: what do you mean? [17:56] fluxnuk3r: the wrong driver grapped the controller [17:57] cdrom being master shouldnt affect anything on sata bus - only other devices plugged in same ide channel [17:57] fluxnuk3r: boot with ide0=noprobe ide1=noprobe [17:57] well, i've tried slackware, knoppix, and gparted, and they can't read it [17:57] that makes the libata driver grap everything [17:57] i don't have any jumper settings on the hdd, only the cdrom [17:57] observe that your cdrom drive then becomes sr0 [17:58] sata drives are not masters or slaves [17:58] macavity: they aren't both ide though [17:58] doesnt matter [17:58] well, something does. [17:58] libata works, ide.ko sucks [17:58] trust me.. ive been running mixed mode setups for a while.. and i *always* choke the old ide driver now [17:59] slackware can read /dev/sda, the hdd, but it can't install to it. says its time to configure it right after it tries to install packages [17:59] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:59] ahhh [17:59] ? [17:59] i thought you said that your satadrive was /dev/hdd :P [17:59] [1]Win34Hunt (n=Win34Hun@ppp-226-188.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware. [17:59] HDD != hdd [18:00] my hard drive is sata, on sata1. my cd-drive is ide, on the only ide there is [18:01] and sata1 becomes device node /dev/sda, and your cdrom drive becomes /dev/hd? [18:01] right? [18:01] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:01] sata1 becomes /dev/sda, cdrom becomes /dev/hda [18:02] target partitions on slackware install are on /dev/sda1(2), but still can't install [18:02] are those two physically different controllers? [18:02] eg, a pure SATA chipset, with a, say, Jmicron IDE controller? [18:03] or is a sata+legacy chipset? [18:03] the are both plugged in to the motherboard. its all new hardware [18:03] that is, two sata ports and two ide ports? [18:03] *they [18:03] I have 7 sata ports, one ide [18:03] *6 [18:03] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [18:03] nForce? [18:04] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-080-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] anyways, mixed mode sucks [18:04] http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4442417&Sku=B69-0014 [18:04] try booting ide0=noprobe ide1=nopobe to let libata handle them all [18:04] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-82.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] thats what almost everything is [18:05] I don't have the other sata cord for the new cd drive. the ide one is about a year old [18:05] will you just try out my suggestion? [18:05] when the DVD gives you the bootprompt, follow the instructions on how to append kernel parameters [18:06] working on it... [18:06] the first sata should be sata 0 (correct?) [18:06] nForce sucks... [18:07] and your reasoning for that? [18:07] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:08] that they are the chipsets that i have consistently had trouble with.. both linux-wise and stability wise [18:08] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [18:08] not to mention that getting an ATI card to work with nForce is like playing poker... you can never know how the cards are dealt [18:09] obviously macavity, yo've never learned to stack the deck, huh? ;) [18:09] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] BP{k}: yes i have.. and i stack nForce mobos at the bottom ;-) [18:09] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] gm152 (n=glen@d121-145-96.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] ello people [18:10] hi [18:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Connection timed out [18:10] macavity: hehe touche ;) [18:10] hey thar lw0x15 [18:10] stack em in the trash [18:10] macavity: its actually formatting the second partition now [18:10] dive: stack what in the trash? [18:10] (: [18:10] mobos with nforce [18:11] i'll just ignore you guys [18:11] lol [18:11] lw0x15, you standing on your head? [18:11] :) [18:11] lol [18:11] fluxnuk3r: observe when it goes to "auto detect CDROM/DVD drive" if it says "found Slackware Disk on /dev/sr0" [18:11] I just bought this... [18:11] dive: i will be soon [18:11] macavity: ok [18:11] lw0x15: is that a london thing? ;) [18:11] lol [18:12] fluxnuk3r: if that is the case you have two options from now on: always boot with ide0=noprobe ide1=noprobe, OR yank the ide driver out of the kernel [18:12] BP{k}: only my thing :P [18:12] fluxnuk3r: personally i prefere the later.. it is one of the most rotten part of Linux.. and it is being replaced as we speak [18:12] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] gm152 (n=glen@d121-145-96.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] macavity: I'll be getting a sata cord to replace the cdrom soon [18:15] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:15] OT: anyone used a Palm Centro? [18:15] Zordrak: ping [18:15] macavity: now it can't find the install cd [18:16] O_O [18:17] PEBKAC [18:17] in that case you are shit out of luck my freind [18:17] macavity: tried to do a manual scan, can't find it on sr0 or hda [18:17] there is no nForce PATA support in libata yet [18:17] Pig_Pen: thanks. when in doubt, blame the user [18:18] tough luck.. you are cassualty number god knows what to the nForce chipsets... [18:18] macavity: so just wait till I can get the sata drive working then? [18:18] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:18] fluxnuk3r: that looks like your only option to me [18:18] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:18] fluxnuk3r: unless the BIOS has some kind of emulation settings you can play with [18:18] ok. only another 6 bucks. [18:18] usteveu (n=steve@c-68-40-199-79.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] I'll just get the sata cable [18:19] nice that your drive has both IDE and SATA port [18:19] holdmypocket (n=choward@168-215-208-8.static.twtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] anyways.. time for me to crash [18:20] does anyone else notice that flash performance in firefox is slower for them? when i use opera flash works smooothly [18:20] macavity: no, two different drives [18:20] spiffytech (n=brian@wod28982RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:20] i would switch completely over to opera but there's too many little difference [18:20] ah :P [18:20] Do I still need to run 915resolution for the Intel 945gm graphics card with Slackware 12.2? 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[18:27] Heather^ (i=WoweL@41.236.13.227) left irc: No route to host [18:30] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aejo201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:30] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeix11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:32] BP{k}: want some chinese ? ;P maybe dominos dominator [18:32] got both lol [18:33] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] lw0x15: no thanks, kethry cooked loempia's (indonesian large springrolls) for dinner and we have still thai spicy soup. :) [18:34] im hungry now [18:34] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:35] all these joins and quits are makin me dizzy [18:35] how are you doing mesa? [18:35] hmm had a meatball feast from pizza gogo [18:35] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] onion rings and bbq sauce [18:35] nice cup of brazillian coffee [18:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:36] roll up [18:37] and it's trying to snow again [18:37] nachox: doing good , and yourself ? [18:37] not bad, not bad [18:37] good to ehar [18:38] how's the back? [18:38] i see yo still remember my ol nick =) [18:38] hows the dvd backing up coming dtanner? [18:38] of course [18:38] if I had some dual density disks it would be much better , don;t worry i am keeping your script and buying some blanks tonight [18:38] i also remember your bitter fights with another well known regular here :P [18:38] dive: i had dominator with double pepperoni, sausage, beef, jalapeanos, onions, mushroom, ham [18:39] i think thats it lol [18:39] nachox: I am in PT now , it helps [18:39] lw0x15: nice :) [18:39] pain meds too? i remember you had detox because of them long ago, right? [18:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:39] BP{k}: yeah, still half left lol [18:39] nachox: and I wonder who that would be , i onluy remember two peoplke that could be that i ever had words with and I don't hold grudges either [18:39] lw0x15: FAIL! [18:39] i got full after two slices [18:40] BP{k}: it was pretty fat ;P [18:40] pepperoni is murder [18:40] lw0x15: my favourite pizza from our local has: slamami, mincedmeat, tandoory chicken, jalapenos pepers :) [18:40] nice [18:40] nachox: i never changed my nick becaiuse of that though , i made it fully aware who i was... i just got tired of mesa after so long [18:40] mincemeat on a pizza? [18:40] it works ;) [18:40] different [18:40] dtanner, i know, i know, i like this one better too [18:41] i was full after the onion rings and 2 slices [18:41] may chuck it in microwave [18:41] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [18:41] it styarted out as mesaboogie ( the type of amp i love to use ) then i shortened it to mesa and everyone thought it meant either 1) a city in Arizona or 2) mesa=table in spanish =) [18:42] mesaboogie are nice amps [18:42] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] most of my logins at work and such were dtanner .. so it makes it easier [18:42] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] NyteOwl: indeed they growl "just right" [18:42] got a marshall 100w stack in cupboard - probably wont use it again [18:42] tinitus... [18:42] dive: selling price is ?... [18:43] :P [18:43] was thinking of selling once [18:43] I'd like to have a Bluesbreaker [18:43] dunno maybe £750 for amp and cab [18:43] nachox: good to see ya around active here .. so how is yoru job and stuff coming along , still at the same place ? [18:44] NyteOwl: I like my new Crate - 2x12 combo all tube a lot. [18:44] Bonix (n=Bonix@212-lo1.rt2.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:44] dtanner: nice. all I have is a little 20w solid state Yamaha :) [18:44] dtanner, i work at deloitte now, the security and privacy services area, i'm happy with the job, i work with really talented people [18:44] for the amount I get to sue it more would be a waste [18:44] dive: you know how to shrink the movies to fit on a 4.7 dvd and still play in a stand alone dvd player ? [18:44] nachox: that is good to hear. =) [18:45] dvd::rip [18:45] will do that [18:45] I have used that but when i burn the resulting files it does not play in my stand alone , i am doing something wrong in dvd::rip i think because "mplayer dvd://1" works on the resulting dvd [18:45] other than you could try remuxing with ffmpeg and specify output size, then use dvdauthor [18:46] my reen script will resize but it is set to output avi, you would need change that to mpeg [18:47] is your reen script on the url you r other scripts are ? i dont remember seeing that one [18:47] yeah [18:47] dive: link to script ? :) i've been looking for another dvd -> avi solution [18:47] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/video [18:47] k [18:48] thx [18:48] i'm having bad luck with handbrake [18:48] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [18:48] handbrake is working good here for ripping , i just cant get my standalone to read the resulting burn , the resulting mpeg or avi looks great on the pc [18:49] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [18:49] thrice`: what sort of bad luck are you having with handbrake ? [18:49] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [18:49] libdvdcss isn't working on my laptop [18:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Client Quit [18:50] so it's unable to read any dvd, basically [18:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [18:50] i see , well lidvdcss is working fine here [18:50] thrice`: bummer [18:50] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:50] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:50] yeah, not sure what it is, honestly [18:50] libdvdcss* [18:50] thrice`, then my scripts probably won't work either [18:51] thrice`: did the install go ok ? i used the slackbuilds.org src and buils script [18:51] mplayer might be a different story [18:52] hmm, a Centro would be $150 and then $30 for voice and mobile browsing [18:52] a month [18:54] which provider ? [18:54] Bell Mobility [18:54] contract ? [18:55] 3 years [18:55] contracts suck to me [18:55] i may go with cricket this time [18:55] I agree but the costs of the phones with no contract are prohibitive [18:55] true [18:55] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [18:56] cricket has the samsung messenger for 130 bucks adn then 35 a month for the plan i want [18:56] Action: NyteOwl is in anada so options are more limited [18:56] er Canada [18:56] I see [18:56] fati (n=brian@71.238.167.164) joined ##slackware. [18:56] and more expensive :( [18:57] actually to be fair if all you want are the basics with a low end phone it's not expensive. But for more than just the basics rtate and any kind of dcent phone the costs go up rapidly [18:58] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] I mean base rate and katana lx on 3 years is $15/month [18:58] not bad [18:59] but while the phone is a decent performer the audio quality is not great, and that's for 200 minutes daytime a month :/ [18:59] for 35 a month I will get unlimited talk and txt including long distance [18:59] no data of any sort includfed [18:59] add inet to that and it is 45 per month [19:00] well a BB Pearl with voice and data would run me $65/month plus $200 for the phone [19:00] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [19:01] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:02] the thing about cricket is the coverage area when traveling , it sucks , but you can put romaing cash in a "flex bucket account" that gives you roaming for 14 cents a minute for traveling outside your home area [19:02] The Centro is no Pearl but Palm is eliable, it's gotten good reviews from users adn I'm used to PalmOS and I don't have to buy the expensive RIM data plan to get on the net with it [19:02] i don't travel much so ... no worries [19:02] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:03] Action: NyteOwl thinks we need a Slackware based smartphone :) [19:03] indeed [19:03] fossfone [19:03] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:34] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:36] sajes (n=sajes@66.82.244.88) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:43] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [19:44] hi all, after typing 'startx', i get this error: "rm: cannot remove /home/limpio/.Xauthority Permission denied" [19:45] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] limpio : well, who's the owner of that file? [19:45] limpio (me) suposedly [19:46] limpio : show us the output of 'ls -l /home/limpio/.Xauthority' [19:46] ok [19:48] ls: cannot access /home/limpio/.Xauthority: No such file or directory [19:49] limpio : can you create that file as your own user? [19:52] i don't know how [19:52] then try [19:52] touch /home/limpio/.Xauthority [19:54] ananke, i got this: "sh-3.1$ touch /home/limpio/.Xauthority [19:54] touch: cannot touch `/home/limpio/.Xauthority': No such file or directory" [19:54] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] limpio : show me output of: 'ls -ld /home/limpio' [19:55] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] nullboy: [19:56] nullboy: ping [19:56] ananke, i get this: "ls: cannot access /home/limpio: No such file or directory" [19:57] ananke: it shows a .Xauthority in pcmanfm [19:59] limpio can you 'ls -al /home' ? [20:00] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "I'm not a quitter, I just had to go" [20:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] sh-3.1$ ls -al /home [20:01] total 15 [20:01] drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 152 2009-02-08 20:45 . [20:01] Channel flood from limpio -- kicking [20:01] drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 512 2009-02-12 12:09 .. [20:01] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11388 2006-11-10 15:26 .DirIcon [20:01] limpio kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:01] sheesh [20:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] limpio is there a /home/limpio ? [20:03] ok, lemme explain in the computer i'm macondo, in the irc, i'm 'limpio', didn't want to confuse you people [20:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] i enter the box as macondo there is NO limpio [20:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [20:04] ok is there /home/macondo ? [20:04] but the problem is the same [20:04] ckp_LastPride (n=andrekgl@a213-22-123-145.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Client Quit [20:05] sh-3.1$ ls -ld /home/macondo [20:05] drwxr-xr-x 30 root root 1496 2009-02-12 12:09 /home/macondo [20:05] assuing you're root it doesn't look like there are any user directories definied in /home [20:05] theres your problem [20:05] you need to su, then 'chown -r macondo:users /home/macondo' [20:06] ok [20:06] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [20:06] your home directory is owned by root for some reason, instead of you [20:07] chown: invalid option -- r [20:07] make it -R [20:07] capital, my fault [20:07] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:08] thanks, now do i logout/in or do i reboot? [20:08] maybe restart X and see if you still get the error? no reboot is needed i think [20:09] ok [20:09] no need to reboot, this isn't Windows :) [20:10] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:10] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] ananke, problem solved thanks a million! [20:17] in the future you should use the -m option with the useradd command. [20:17] it will make the home directory for you [20:17] and copy any files from the skel directory. [20:18] (usually /etc/skel/ ) [20:18] or just use the adduser command instead :) [20:18] werd [20:18] I find adduser easier myself. [20:20] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.28.5 [20:20] c [20:20] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [20:23] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Hey [20:24] this spare hard drive, I think I'm going to run something like, finc / -exec fuzx {} \; on it before I format it [20:24] find* [20:24] nullboy: So the virtio directions you wrote up only need to be done on the guest side, correct? The host's kernel can stay untouched, right? [20:24] yeah [20:26] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCly [20:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [20:30] nullboy: I'm sorry, could you give me that link again? [20:30] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/kvm_qemu_virtio_blk_slackware12.2.txt [20:33] nullboy: What are you trying to do? [20:34] i'm not trying to do anything.... [20:34] i already do it [20:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:34] Is it http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/something_like_this.jpg ? [20:34] lol [20:35] that's the best trollin' pic around [20:38] CrankyChipmonk (n=joseph@69.177.189.60) joined ##slackware. [20:38] nullboy: thank you so much! [20:38] np good luck [20:40] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:44] jet engines on a train? who thunk that? [20:45] some weirdo [20:45] lol [20:46] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [20:46] i think i want a train like that [20:46] to go around my christmas tree [20:46] CrankyChipmonk: http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/something_like_this.jpg ? [20:47] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [20:47] http://imagebin.org/38293 [20:48] Pig_Pen: Win. [20:48] Pig_Pen: that was irrelevant [20:48] jkwood: i meant a mini one [20:49] http://imagebin.org/38294 CrankyChipmonk [20:50] it's tequila time [20:51] lol [20:51] fine, I can't argue with that logic Pig_Pen [20:52] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] zamholio (n=Jared@75-175-105-178.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] query: i want to point terminal to a different browser. where? how? [20:53] try using magic [20:53] ok [20:53] brb [20:54] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:55] http://imagebin.org/38296 here is a favorite [20:55] you have too much time on ur hands [20:55] omfg [20:55] that scares the shit out of me [20:55] .. [20:56] poor dog, LOL [20:56] haha [20:56] photoshoped [20:56] not dog paint [20:56] only in the evenings after work, the wife is a TV junkie, she gotta watch her detective shows, Law & Order, CSI & stuff like that [20:56] ah [20:56] U have a wife [20:56] so she watches TV and i play on the PC [20:56] Akuma0n4 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:57] I have a life [20:57] I doubt that [20:57] what do u play on the PC? [20:57] i used to have a life, but i gave it up [20:57] Bonix (n=Bonix@212-lo1.rt2.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:57] i play a Linux geek [20:57] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-60-20.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:59] Action: BP{k} wonders if Pig_Pen has a clone of kethry ;) [20:59] who is kethry? [21:00] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-104-29.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Pig_Pen: the girlfriend, who also likes her detective shows ;) [21:00] tv kills [21:00] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) joined ##slackware. [21:00] radiomark (n=mark@cpc2-acto10-0-0-cust124.brnt.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Pig_Pen: me :P [21:01] ah, maybe, what i hate about TV is all the damn advertising, i refuse to be advertized to every 10 minues in my own home [21:02] Brought to you by Subway. Eat Fresh. [21:02] the only thing i get out of my cable line is internet access [21:02] ahaha [21:03] if it was not for the wife & kids i would cancel cable TV and only use cable internet & telephone [21:03] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:03] I used to watch so much tv, then I left the house a couple times [21:04] now I don't watch any [21:04] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:05] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] i hate advertising so much that i cuss at sales persons if they give me the ol' sales pitch un-solicisited [21:05] fluxnuk3r (n=server@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:06] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [21:07] Pig_Pen: that sounds so familiar, any business I walk into, I'm like "beat it, if I want you I'll let you know"! ;) [21:07] i sometimes watch TV, but not often, usually old movies from the 1930's through the 1960's or something educational or informative on the Discovery channel or History Channel, i hate stupid brainless crap on Network TV [21:08] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:08] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:08] hey man [21:09] no [21:09] it won't work [21:09] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [21:10] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection timed out [21:10] anyone know anything about trying to point terminal to using firefox instead of using seamonkey? [21:10] i started having he issue when i trashed firefox 2 [21:10] which DE? [21:10] In KDE I use the "show desktop" button and open a file.. say a PDF.. I close that app and then every open application is immediately restored to being above the desktop. Is there a way for it to say below? ie when I close the pdf app I get the desktop again? [21:11] WM [21:11] whatever [21:11] which uses the xfce terminal [21:11] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:11] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] whatever? [21:11] WM? WindowMaker? [21:11] yes [21:12] windowmaker [21:12] you have firefox 3 installed? [21:12] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] i only untared it [21:12] where? [21:12] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [21:13] i stuck the directory in /usr/lib [21:13] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:13] you need a symlink [21:13] ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin [21:13] radiomark (n=mark@cpc2-acto10-0-0-cust124.brnt.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] Akuma0n3 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:14] that half worked [21:15] it should be symlinked to /usr/bin/firefox [21:16] Akuma0n5 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:16] i can launch firefox with 'firefox' command again, but when i open links from terminal it still is going into seamonkey [21:17] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:17] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:17] i'll get it, i'll keep playing with symlink [21:17] thanks [21:18] i know this sounds like a dirty trick but try this: ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/netscape [21:18] hehe [21:18] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:19] windowmaker and a few other older window manager sometimes still default to netscape [21:20] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [21:21] zamholio (n=Jared@75-175-105-178.ptld.qwest.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:21] probably legacy code they never updated [21:22] zamholio (n=Jared@75-175-105-178.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:22] no dice [21:24] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Akuma0n6 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:25] maybe ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla :D [21:25] looks like slackware looks for firefox first, then seamonkey, than konqueror. so when i trashed FF2 i messed up something [21:26] does anyone know of a way to switch out of openarena and back to the desktop, then switch back? [21:26] Pig_Pen, HA! that did it [21:26] hey I need to format 3 drives with multple partitions on each. i want this data to be gone gone..if you know what i mean:) [21:27] what would yous recommend? [21:27] ohh noez, it's that genius again [21:28] ananke: ur face [21:28] SM177Y: shred or dd will do [21:28] lol [21:28] Thermite. It's the only way to be sure. [21:28] Akuma0n4 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] SM177Y : wow. did your mommy help you come up with that one? [21:28] thanks guys :) [21:28] ananke: no actuall your mom did :P she told me that one last night :P:P [21:28] http://tasarim.alternaturk.org/images/komik3-2.jpg [21:29] SM177Y : i'm so proud of you now [21:29] what could go wrong? [21:29] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [21:29] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:30] ananke: you never have anything positive to say do you?. grow up man. [21:30] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.195.168) left irc: "[BX] Oral sex makes your day" [21:30] SM177Y : ahh, the irony behind 'grow up' statement [21:30] and he runs away again [21:30] And then he has that as his exit quote.. [21:30] What a douche bag. [21:30] zamholio (n=Jared@75-175-105-178.ptld.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [21:30] Someone should noobfarm that. [21:31] but oral secks is grown up [21:32] Can I have Qt4 installed concurrently with Qt3 + KDE 3? [21:32] nullboy: ya, for 12 year olds. [21:32] ccfreak2k: yes [21:32] ccfreak2k: yep; use the one on slackbuilds.org [21:32] Hmm. [21:32] Salty. [21:32] it will slot to /usr/lib/qt4 or so [21:36] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:36] hba (n=hba@189.188.160.32) joined ##slackware. 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[21:39] usteveu (n=steve@c-68-40-199-79.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:43] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:43] my APC just disconnected from AC 3 times in 1 minute [21:43] eeek [21:45] nullboy: sudo apcaccess status [21:45] Akuma0n6 (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] One time, before i had actually disabled the audible alarm during power loss, the unit lost AC and started beeping at 3am. It woke me up and i thought it was my firealarm so i grabbed a fire extinguisher and started looking for wtf was on fire [21:46] stylish (n=stylish@S01060004e2c229da.cc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [21:47] Aloha... [21:47] i've been plagued by those before. i usually have upses that were thrown away at work, so they experience such problems [21:50] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:51] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [21:52] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [21:55] LASTXFER : Unacceptable line voltage changes [21:55] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:59] nullboy: yep, happens alot here in florida [22:00] nullboy: LASTXFER : Low line voltage [22:00] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:07] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [22:09] stylish (n=stylish@S01060004e2c229da.cc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:10] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:12] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] that is so weird [22:13] since I upgraded to 12.2, finch causes segfaults with ctrl n [22:13] lol [22:13] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [22:15] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:19] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [22:19] but it only happens in XC [22:19] X* [22:19] in the cli it doenst do that lmap [22:20] lmao* [22:21] just got kicked off of aim for ten minutes. oh well. How is everyone? 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[22:28] wicd ain't too bad [22:29] i used wicd for a fair amount of time and the only thing that made me go back to the stock networking scripts was that (the that time) wicd wouldn't allow me to be connected to the same network at the same time with two different cards [22:30] -the [22:31] for what reason did you want/need to be, just out of curiosity? [22:32] two different connection mediums [22:32] wifi + hardline on the same subnet [22:35] Shuren (n=Devilman@host119-235-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:36] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.40) left irc: "leaving" [22:37] nullboy, so that you could disconnect and roam about the house? [22:38] nullboy: http://www.hall-woodhouse.co.uk/beers/badgerales/goldenchampion.asp \o/ [22:39] TwinReverb (i=1000@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:39] TwinReverb: yeah and also to let me use the hardline whenever i needed it for large file transfers [22:40] hba (n=hba@189.188.160.32) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-138-38.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:45] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:45] not sure if this should go to slackware team directly, but pkgconfig file in pm-utils package in 12.2 has a typo I just discovered. [22:45] \o/ [22:46] tuxrules: they know. [22:46] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:47] checked the new pm-utils source (1.2.4) and it has been fixed [22:47] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: "leaving" [22:48] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:52] http://www.darkreading.com/security/perimeter/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208803634 [22:53] Shuren (n=Devilman@host119-235-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:53] tuxrules: check the git commit and see if you recognize the name :) [22:54] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:54] that is the biggest problem. people blindly clicking things or plugging anything they find into a computer [22:56] tuxrules: the pkgconfig support in pm-utils is new as of 1.2.3, so nothing else expects it yet. Not worth an update to -stable IMHO. [22:58] TwinReverb (i=1000@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:00] folks.. anybody there knows if ipod 6th gen (120gb) is working properly in amarok? [23:00] rworkman: hello there [23:01] ifconfig [23:01] aw damn [23:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [23:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:06] anyone have any idea why I'm getting this with irssi? ** (process:1362): CRITICAL **: config_node_find: assertion `is_node_list(node)' failed [23:06] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-138-38.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:06] sounds like a bad config file [23:07] suid0: hey hey [23:08] rworkman: how are you buddy? [23:08] suid0: re amarok and ipod, no idea. I don't have one :/ [23:08] suid0: not bad; how are things with you? [23:08] rworkman: k.. that's fine.. I went to #amarok to ask. =] [23:08] :) [23:09] things are fine... Piter is at work right now. talking to him [23:09] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-71-153-130-127.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] XGizzmo: allright, I'll keep looking at that. I did edit it, but just added an alias, but the irssi connection had been up for days with a few previous config edits. [23:09] rworkman: next week we will start planning slackshow [23:10] OooOOo whats slackshow? [23:10] stitchman: it's something we do every year here in Brazil to bring more people to slackware and to drink beer (later) with us [23:12] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:12] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [23:13] suid0: cool cool. I talked with PP a few minutes ago :) [23:14] rworkman: lol.. he was asking me to install samba 4 here so he could test it. will try to instal current on a new machine during the weekend [23:15] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [23:15] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:16] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [23:18] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [23:19] Hrm, I've not looked at samba4 at all. [23:19] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [23:20] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.12.77) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:20] rworkman: see! suid0 is dare enough to test something that no-one-has-tested-before [23:20] get (n=getf@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:20] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:20] suid0: I guess toledo already test samba4 [23:20] PiterPunk: heh. of course in a "new" and never used box [23:20] dunno [23:21] ok since there is no real trouble shooting going on i guess ill pose this 'situation' and 'question' [23:21] suid0: I hate iPod. The only thing i got giving an iPod to my wife is many questions about how she can put the songs inside that broked little box [23:21] etb (n=wbb@83.212.56.193) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:22] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] I go to the local community college, i am a computer science major, and have been using slack for 3-4 years exclusively (means no windows at all at home)... [23:22] PiterPunk: well, we need people for that sort of testing ;-) [23:23] PiterPunk: I have to say.. I like ipod.. the idea of carrying my entire mp3 library everywhere it's just awesome [23:23] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:23] and ipod isn't a requirement for taking music with you though [23:23] an [23:24] i took up a linux/unix essentials course to pick up extra credits to remain a full time status, and someone there started the "Linux/Unix Hackers Club" with (hesitant) school approval [23:24] nullboy: but which other device could do that except for a hard disk? M$ zune? [23:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:24] there are many SD card based players [23:25] the poster said something to the effect of "come and join the 3l33t n00bs welcome', i then scoffed, very much so, but i am drawn to attend a meeting just to see if i can learn anything.. [23:26] nullboy: 120gb it's far beyond a SD card. I would have to carry many SD cards. [23:26] stitchman: go check it out. [23:26] insert comma between elite and noobs [23:26] erbi_ (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [23:26] stitchman: I don´t see any problems by now. [23:26] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:26] stitchman: I personally think that the poster was idiotic, but maybe the poster designer isn't the "typical" member. [23:26] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] the thing that got me was the use of leet speak, which was funny for about 5 minutes 10 years ago [23:26] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-71-153-130-127.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [23:27] right [23:27] the founder of the club is very pro-ubuntu [23:27] btw i have nothing against ubuntu [23:28] i am just torn, i have this insatiable hunger for knowledge, but i am almost afraid of the lameness that i might encounter [23:28] stitchman: don't worry, everybody will understand if you say you have [23:29] frullet (n=hooch@203-158-37-180.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:29] ubuntu is a headache maker [23:29] have? [23:30] stitchman: if you say u do have something against ubuntu [23:30] i have nothing against the distro, but some of the users are less desirable [23:30] Nothing prevents you from getting along with users of other distributions. I had a LUG meeting tonight, and we have quite a variety of distributions in use. There's no arguing at all. [23:31] how many people are expected in the meeting? [23:31] i am just hoping the meeting doesnt turn into a discussion of how to 'pwn websites' [23:32] stitchman: if it does, just leave, or even better, turn it into a really useful discussion about ethics in free software usage. [23:34] oh man.. I would love to attend such a meeting, but these guys aren't.. exactly.. my age: http://www.milwaukeelug.org/MCTSPictures (if pictures are any representation of the people that really will show up..) and so.. it might be a little awkward for me [23:34] i think the members are the same group of rocket scientists that used 'talk' to send messages to the teachers account that was being projected on the wall during class. I just cant help but be curious as to how the meeting will go down [23:36] if my wife doesnt post any objections i will be attending the meeting (we have a 1 year old(who btw is awesome(really i love him like nothing else))) i wonder if they have even heard of slack [23:37] stitchman: stick it in her pooper. that'll sort her out [23:37] spook i really dont think that would solve anything heheh [23:37] you afraid they'll beat you up? [23:37] are you kidding? thats the solution to EVERYTHING [23:38] no i'm afraid ill be really irritated and walk out in disgust. i just dont wanna be rude heh [23:38] pissed off at hillary clinton? stick it in her pooper. gf nagging you? stick it in her pooper. [23:38] spook is a wise man :) [23:38] the second-coming of Confucius [23:39] much wisdom, i can share [23:39] Problem? Pooper, stick it. [23:40] to whom's pooper shall one stick it up if thine wireless configs work not? [23:41] Ficthe: the question is, whos pooper should you not stick it in/ [23:41] I dunno what my realy question about the situtation is, maybe it is: have any of you been in a similar situation and have advice? I'm not afraid of going, its just that i feel like im way past all the immature BS they might be trying to push like cracking and such. I don't really want to be affiliated with that. [23:42] nullboy, if that was to me - no, I can run fast than any of them anyway. It'll just be awkward.. I'm 20, and from looking at these pictures, the average age attending the LUG in this area is ~45 [23:42] i went to a local 2600 meeting and all they talked about was anime and arcade roms [23:42] people like like stitchman will be attending the meeting, I mean to say. [23:43] (just kidding) well.. I guess it's a blessing then that the people in the LUG meetings around my area are older.. seems like they're talking about serious stuff. What the hell, I'll go [23:43] hack them [23:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-90.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] rofl [23:43] roll up and own all their systems then leave [23:44] nmap the group one meeting, research, then fsck them up the next heh [23:44] yeah, you guys are always one step behind me. [23:44] LUG meetings are rarely productive unless you are a fan of "popular" distros [23:44] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] though seasoned slackware users are generally revered for their knowledge [23:45] Meeting Information * NextMeeting - February 14th, 2009 - SELinux: A Pragmatic Overview for System Administrators [23:45] one day i will be seasoned, not yet though [23:45] or their ability to serve up a nice batch of fries with their elitism [23:45] doesn't sound toooo bad [23:45] my local lug meetings is more like "lets all show how nothing else debian + deratives are soooo good [23:45] SELinux: The wrong solution to crappy system administration [23:45] Action: BP{k} cracks some blackpepper and salt over stitchman [23:45] those types of meetings are just asking for someone to play with ettercap and metasploit [23:46] And driftnet. [23:46] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-90.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:46] i told them to change the name to a lug and make it official but they ignored me (they were having administration problems with the school) [23:46] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-90.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] oh you guys remember that troll, who was going on about the childhood vaccine causing autism? [23:47] http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/gRKYMRJqtC8/article.pl [23:48] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@123-243-198-100.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:48] nix_chix0r: meep [23:48] mooop [23:48] bluck [23:48] Eww [23:48] Court Rules Autism Not Caused By Childhood Vaccine [23:48] has anyone compiled cdrtools on slackware? and if so how did you make it i486? thanks [23:49] my sister in law is in medical school, and she mentioned a study (in progress) about how areas with high electro magnetic fields (high density cities) are having higher saturations with autism [23:50] nothing concrete of course [23:50] correlation does not prove causation. [23:50] Bad Maths 101 [23:50] exactly [23:50] Pupuser402: what? [23:50] hence multiple asides [23:50] Pupuser402: yes, I have. [23:51] Well it took me a while to classify the human race. You know what i came up with? You're a virus. [23:51] Pupuser402: the slackbuild script will compile it for i486 to begin with. [23:51] It seems everything we make "causes" some sort of issue. [23:52] every action causes an opposite but equal reaction? [23:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-90.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:53] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:54] thanks BP but I'm not using slackware, at present, when I build it, it always reverts to i686, and I would like it as i486, I'm using puppy 3.0.1 which is slackware 12 compatible, They don't have a clue on #puppylinux, so i figured theres 10x the people here.maybe someone would know how. [23:54] stitchman: Thats probably a good way of putting it. [23:55] it uses gmake and no configure [23:56] Pupuser402: what machine are you running it on? [23:57] I'm using a i686 but for the repo I want it to be i486 [23:57] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:58] stitchman: sounds like the stupid study they did 30 years ago the people living in the same type of areas had higher rates of cancer [23:58] turns out they were wrong but it was good for some free publicity and a lot of anguish later [23:58] Pupuser402: uh...... [23:59] I would like to compile it as i486, but everytime I compile it, it comes out as i686 [00:00] --- Fri Feb 13 2009