[00:00] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-221-141.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:00] haven't had the chance yet to play around with 12.2 :) [00:01] slacker! [00:01] hehe [00:04] cm21 (i=0@190-95-19-167.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) left ##slackware. [00:06] cm21 (i=0@190-95-22-144.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [00:06] gm152 (n=glen@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] you need to start the daemon at startup/before you start the client [00:07] and the daemon runs as root [00:08] endren (n=endren@CPE001e58ef33ec-CM0012c90cf19a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:08] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:10] You can just call it from rc.local if you'd like. [00:10] I recommend running /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd stop in rc.local_shutdown as well, just to be sure. [00:12] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [00:14] cm21 (i=0@190-95-22-144.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) left ##slackware. 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[00:29] gotcha [00:30] aye [00:31] c0nflict (i=500@134-102.94-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] endren (n=endren@CPE001e58ef33ec-CM0012c90cf19a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [00:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:44] Slackware comes with Wicd? [00:45] yes [00:45] version 12.2 [00:45] yes [00:45] /extra [00:46] intalled? [00:46] slackware and iptables awesome combination :P [00:47] how do I make the xfce4-xmms plugin use audacious? [00:47] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/xfce4-xmms-plugin/ [00:47] it only allows me to select XMMS [00:47] vileli8ves_ (n=darrel@nv-69-34-98-73.dyn.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] i'm messing with KVM pci pasthrough for gigabit network cards [00:49] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.148.175) left irc: "leaving" [00:49] nullboy: I 'm confuesed, Slackware comes with Wicd installed or not, becouse I did not see it? [00:49] It's in /extra. You have to install it yourself. [00:49] slackware comes with wicd in extra/ [00:51] OK I get it now [00:57] nullboy: like, giving the vm direct access to the pci bus? [00:57] yeah [00:57] cool [00:58] nullboy: any overhead? [00:59] don't know yet [00:59] the guest can see my card and the driver installs and the link lighs turn on but the guest never thinks the link is up [00:59] odd [01:00] I want to download all the tar.gz from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/webcore-fonts/ [01:00] wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.tar.gz http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/webcore-fonts/ [01:01] doesnt download anything, but just makes four folders [01:01] what's wrong with the wget? [01:01] man wget [01:02] spook: yes, and that's how far I got; the wget is long, I'm sure I'm missing something [01:02] spook: would you know what I'm missing? [01:03] the -A is wrong [01:03] What should it be? [01:03] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:04] -A .tar.gz [01:04] I've tried that too [01:04] I think both should work [01:04] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [01:04] I have two internet accounts. there is any way to choose either? to avoid having to run pppoe-setup every time when you want to change [01:04] no, if you read the manual entry for -A, it says "-A acceptlist" [01:04] anyone know of any motorcycle-oriented motorcycle channels? [01:04] IRC channels rather [01:04] spook: Okay, I've done it both ways [01:05] cm21: i dont think it was designed for multiple configs or concurrent connections [01:05] cm21: i would investigate the switch that allows you to specify a config file [01:07] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] well, usb passthrough works great but pci passthrough seems sketchy still [01:08] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-8-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:08] spook: thanks but it is not necessary [01:08] cm21: why? [01:09] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-15-221.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] cm21: pppoe-start [config_file], the default is /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf [01:10] spook: Im a newbe [01:11] cm21: run pppoe-setup for the first connection, then copy pppoe.conf somewhere else, rename it something sensible. [01:11] mmm [01:11] run pppoe-setup for the second connection, then copy pppoe.conf somewhere else, rename it something sensible [01:11] I think i can do that [01:11] then use pppoe-start /path/to/firstsensiblename.conf or pppoe-start /path/to/secondsensiblename.conf [01:13] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:15] can I do something as a shortcut for each file? [01:15] cm21: then you can symlink /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf to either config file to make them the "default" config [01:15] to call each file? [01:16] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [01:16] cm21: a shell script i guess. echo "pppoe-start /path/to/firstsensiblename.conf" > startfirstconnection.sh chmod +x startfirstconnection.sh /path/to/startfirstconnection.sh < what's the equivalent to the interfaces file? [01:54] 'interfaces file' ? [01:54] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [01:55] Old_Fogie: Debian/Ubuntu [01:56] I suppose, he didnt specify :) [01:56] Old_Fogie: /etc/network/interfaces [01:57] i expected that those who would know what i was talking about would know the equivalent without any hesitation :P [01:57] mordy: not really. i just guessed. [01:58] Oh I know what the file is, I also know how to ask a question :) [01:58] well gotta run, night all [01:58] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:58] old_fogie :/ [01:59] haha, i guess i need to read a manual of sorts [01:59] right now i'm going to set up my ipw2200 which i just installed in an ancient laptop [01:59] and we'll see how this 650 Mhz baby runs with a nice intel wifi :P [02:00] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.47.197) joined ##slackware. [02:00] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "..(cyp): BitchX: ribbed for her pleasure!" [02:01] didn't realize we had a Facebook group, very nice, just joined it :) [02:02] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:03] we do? [02:03] tea4me (n=tea4me@pool-71-174-15-221.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] yes! 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[02:28] morning [02:28] I hate mondays [02:28] morning [02:28] Action: slackytude coffee++ [02:29] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:29] -13 C [02:29] nice [02:29] not really [02:30] don't leave the house with wet hair [02:30] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [02:31] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: "leaving" [02:33] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [02:34] dont leave the house... [02:35] panda (n=gabriele@host67-212-static.41-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:36] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [02:41] toy (n=toy@201.12.151.155) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [02:43] fresco20_ (n=fresco20@115.73.57.65) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Dominian: that works now, the raid stuff [02:44] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.47.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:44] that raid-extra-boot accepts devices without partition numbers [02:44] oot = /dev/md0 [02:44] raid-extra-boot="/dev/hda,/dev/sda,/dev/sdb" [02:44] then when you run lilo it updates all the disks instead of just the first onw [02:47] what is the comomand to get back to the slackware install , or better would be the command to select console fonts ? [02:47] i have forgotten that command to reseelect fonts for cli [02:47] pkgtool [02:48] Hi all. Foes anyone know of any one-file wikis besides tiddlywiki [02:48] thanks, i see now it is setconsolefonts in pkgtool [02:48] thank you nullboy , i have been away from slack for a year now [02:49] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-70-95-157-181.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] I forgot you would have the list in pkgtool [02:50] hmmm my backspace is not working [02:50] another issue with 12.2 is the damn cx23885 module loading and borking my screen to garble , i blacklisted that one [02:51] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-70-95-157-181.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:52] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] hey, when I'm installing software RAID and I am at the point of "Create MD device", do I create a new MD device for each partition (/, /home, swap)? Or just once? [02:55] Baz_: did you read the README_RAID.txt on the install media? [02:56] nullboy: ummmmm, i plead the fufth [02:56] Baz_: you can create as my md devices as you want though [02:56] Baz_: is this during the install or after the install? [02:56] nullboy: during [02:56] yep, read that readme file then [02:56] nullboy: so should i raid the swap? [02:57] i wouldn't [02:57] the kernel can already stripe swap without raid or lvm [02:58] you just create multiple swap partitions on different devices, add them all to fstab with the same priorities and the kernel handles it for you [03:00] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:01] the_cor3s (n=34dfcdfd@202.43.181.228) left irc: [03:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:01] ecelis (n=celisdel@189.137.143.142) joined ##slackware. [03:02] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] is there a choice to use raid during "setup"/"install" now ? or am I not follopwing the conversation properly? [03:04] sherique (n=ri@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] read README_RAID.txt [03:05] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] ty will do [03:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [03:18] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [03:24] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Action: slackytude coffee++ [03:26] will a qtparted package compatible with slack 11 work in 12.2? [03:27] i wouldn't do that myself [03:27] ok [03:28] cupsgenppd is BRUTAL [03:29] i' doing a test system and cups gen ppd is running while the RAID10 syncs in the background [03:29] this is not so cool [03:31] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:31] ok, i want to make a slack package for qtparted, what would be the best steps to do it? [03:32] read the documentation at slackbuilds.org [03:32] all of it [03:32] ok [03:33] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) joined ##slackware. [03:33] actually [03:33] i see a gparted build. would you suggest that over qtparted? [03:34] i just have parted installed [03:34] yes, though i've had problems before when using it [03:34] with invalid sizes [03:35] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [03:38] now i have /boot on md0 mirrored across 3 disks and / on md1 RAID10 across 3 drives [03:38] i think there should be a mention about those lilo.conf options to allow booting off of the other disks in the event that the primary master disk of the system fails [03:41] fresco20_ (n=fresco20@115.73.57.65) left irc: "Leaving" [03:42] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:46] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-158-16.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:47] Reaver_11 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:55] i want to put a DVL installed system directly on the internet [03:55] no firewall or router or nothing [03:55] Amsoz (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Avelino (n=Avelino@mail.paterno.com.br) joined ##slackware. [03:55] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [03:56] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE92507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:56] Srbo_ (i=1000@p4FE92507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:59] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [04:00] heh [04:00] on a server? [04:01] just an extra system i have [04:01] hmm [04:01] i'll do a fresh install and stick it directly on the cable modem and wait [04:01] get a switch and bypass the router i guess [04:02] you know modem to switch, then switch to dvl and switch to router [04:02] yeah but you can't get two IPs [04:02] KidpunkX (n=masterx8@adsl-235-225-104.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] that would be interesting to see what happens [04:02] true [04:02] i want to set it up by itself on the modem for 24 hours to see how owned it gets [04:03] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:03] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:03] couldn't you set your router up to stop connection attempts? [04:04] then it would go to dvl right [04:04] ? [04:05] maybe have your router port forward everything to dvl [04:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:05] that's not open enough [04:05] i want it to have a live IP [04:05] just plugging it into the modem will do it all [04:05] yes [04:05] what is your ip? [04:06] ... [04:06] >< [04:06] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Kaput!" [04:07] mine is 86.7.53.09 [04:07] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:07] i wonder who has 69.69.69.69 [04:07] lol [04:07] lol [04:08] no website.. [04:08] i had a block of 5 static ips for over 10 years [04:08] then i surrendered them since i only ever used 2 [04:08] lol [04:08] doesnt respond to ping [04:08] mine is dynamic though it doesn't change for a good long time [04:08] which country would that be in? [04:10] neither does 86.7.53.09 [04:10] ~$ geoiplookup 69.69.69.69 [04:10] GeoIP Country Edition: US, United States [04:10] GeoIP Country Edition: can't resolve hostname ( 86.7.53.09 ) [04:10] lol [04:10] lol [04:11] 069/8 ARIN 2002-08 whois.arin.net ALLOCATED [04:11] nmap is still churning away [04:11] lmao [04:11] lol [04:11] probably Bill Clinton's computer. [04:11] watch you go over some mil block [04:12] Bill is like "wtf" [04:12] black helicopters take your ass away at 3am [04:12] lol [04:12] 69.0.0.0/8 belongs to American Registry for Internet Numbers [04:12] Clinton: "we caught you pinging my porn pc." [04:13] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:14] All 1715 scanned ports on the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com (69.69.69.69) are filtered [04:14] sherique (n=ri@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:14] lol [04:14] he uses protection [04:14] but that domain has just been tasted. [04:15] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:15] i'm sure that ip must have been assigned to someone at one point... [04:15] let me simpyl google it [04:15] thats the reverse lookup on it [04:16] probally expired domain [04:16] sherique (n=ri@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:34] hi [04:34] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:35] it won't let me into x now [04:35] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:35] It was not letting me run my programs because I was out of free space. [04:35] what does it say [04:36] so i cleared some up [04:36] but i ran that command as root and as user [04:36] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c220-237-26-25.farfl2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:36] let me check [04:37] client 1 rejected from host [04:37] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] (uid 1000( [04:37] Nick change: masterx831 -> MasterX831 [04:37] No protocol specified [04:38] upon ctrl+alt+backspace [04:38] i get [04:38] error in locking authority file /home/mrselfpwn/.Xauthority [04:39] mrselfpwn: what does ls -alh ~/.Xauthority show? [04:40] bimoseptyop (n=bimosept@120.161.120.210) joined ##slackware. [04:40] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] damn, root root [04:41] sudo chown mrselfpwn.users /home/mrselfpwn/.Xauthority [04:41] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:41] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:42] sherique (n=ri@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:42] have any of you filed an RMA with ocz? [04:44] now i get invalid MIT-Magic-Cookie [04:44] why does my HD, doing rice krispies sound? Its been doing it lately, it never did it since i started using slackware this week been happening alot lately [04:44] its dying [04:44] what [04:44] yes backup the data [04:44] nooooooooooo [04:45] means it's gonna go kurplunk [04:45] dammit [04:45] invalid MIT-Magic-Cookie-1 key [04:45] wth is that? [04:46] i guess i can try deleting the Xauthority files [04:47] ok, that seems to have worked [04:48] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "leaving" [04:49] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [04:49] Srbo_ (i=1000@p4FE92507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [04:50] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [04:50] ok [04:50] back in business [04:50] |Lou (n=lou@pool-71-106-189-48.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] that is why i am installing gparted lol [04:51] i think i just might toss windoze [04:51] |Lou (n=lou@pool-71-106-189-48.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [04:51] lol [04:51] it takes up a whopping 25 gig [04:51] and that is just the OS [04:51] i'm reading about reviving a hard drive on google :P [04:52] It's vista and i have only installed windows updates to that partition [04:52] AK (n=Kaiser@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) joined ##slackware. [04:52] but i need it for autocad [04:53] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:53] i wonder if it will work in a VM [04:53] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [04:54] I just installed fluxbox 1.1.1 from source.. but it didnt install any xinitrc.fluxbox in /etc/X11/xinit.... so it wont appear in xwmconfig..so I cant pick it as my default wm.. what to do? [04:54] my previous fluxbox was messed up so I removed it [04:55] can you just edit .xinitrc? [04:55] add exec fluxbox [04:55] ok [04:55] AK (n=Kaiser@mailhost01.hitech.com.br) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [04:55] plankton (n=peretto@200.195.137.98) joined ##slackware. [04:56] bom dia. [04:56] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [04:57] hi, small question. I've a WD ext. hdd ('My Book'), when I "safely remove" it, konqueror agrees.. and I see it there as "unmounted removable medium" .. but yet, it's spinning [04:57] (it may be worthwhile to point out that when I "safely remove" it in windows, it shuts off completely.. no more spinning sounds or lights on) [04:57] any thoughts? [04:58] does it show it as unmounted when you type mount in the terminal? [04:59] it shouldn't show up if it is truly unmounted [05:00] yes, it does show up in the mount output [05:01] umount /dev/(harddrive) [05:01] replace harddrive with the appropriate sda1 hda1, whichever it may be [05:01] Brian Malow++ [05:01] oh, sorry, my mistake - no, it's not there [05:02] (I thought of /sda as the hdd.. when it's really my primary int. hdd) [05:02] ah [05:02] i really am not sure then ficthe [05:03] mwendi (n=ledre@124.195.41.237) joined ##slackware. [05:03] alright, thanks anyway mrselfpwn [05:04] mwendi (n=ledre@124.195.41.237) left irc: Client Quit [05:05] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.225) joined ##slackware. [05:05] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.225) left irc: Client Quit [05:09] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [05:10] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) joined ##slackware. [05:11] hello guys. talking to you from my new slackware box. first time i've got online [05:11] got IT online* [05:11] blurr: snoocheriffic [05:12] anyone recommend a bluetooth app? need to get my mouse hooked up still [05:13] hidd --search [05:14] plankton (n=peretto@200.195.137.98) left irc: [05:15] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-59c585221b944893) joined ##slackware. [05:16] 2.6.26.5 did the webcam trick, just like you guys said. I did the exact same steps as i did for 2.6.27 and .28, but in 2.6.26.5 it works perfectly first try [05:16] turned on the server but hidd --search doesn't give me any results... and --show doesn't either [05:17] 2.6.28 gspca for quickcam messenger is brokeny broke, since I have the exact same config but for kernel version [05:17] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:17] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: "Leaving" [05:18] I'm streaming my fishtank cam ('betta cam') now [05:18] can you cp a user directory into a root directory as su? [05:18] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:19] "Can you * as su?" == Yes. [05:19] mrselfpwn, you about? [05:19] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.184.38) joined ##slackware. [05:19] i keep gettng a "cp: omitting directory '/dir/ect/ory' [05:19] si [05:19] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:19] or anyone who can check that they have any files in /etc/hal/fdi/*? [05:20] I have 3 folders all empty [05:20] can we see youre fish cam ? there is a fishtank cam on the net that still runs that is the oldest cam on the net [05:20] *your [05:21] I have debugged udev and it creates correct /dev for my usb sticks [05:21] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Reconnecting" [05:21] Shrp_: -r [05:21] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [05:21] dive, i have 3 empty folders also [05:21] I have them, they are all empty [05:21] hmm ok [05:21] probably not a problem then - thx for looking [05:21] is that r for recursive [05:21] yeah [05:22] np dive [05:26] nullboy, do you know where i might find sigc++ ? [05:27] i installed libsigc++ [05:27] though this package is still claiming it can't find sigc++ [05:28] nvm, i'm gonna ditch the effort [05:30] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "reboot" [05:31] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:32] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-189-191.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:34] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [05:39] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:41] Nick change: Amsoz -> Zosma [05:42] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: "A wank a day, keeps the frustrations away" [05:44] blurr@Darkstar:/$ hidd --connect 00:07:61:94:2A:78 (my mouse) ... Can't get device information: No route to host [05:44] any ideas? [05:44] lol@darkstar [05:44] heheh [05:44] lol [05:44] The Dead [05:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.138) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:44] nice [05:45] O_o [05:45] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:46] unless he isn't talking about the Grateful Dead song lol [05:46] zordrak, like i said i literally have just got this box up :) [05:47] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.13.101.39) joined ##slackware. [05:48] doesnt the BT mouse come with a USB dongle? [05:49] nope. relies on the bt module in my pc... had it going on another distro previously [05:50] huh [05:50] my bluetooth mouse came alone. my laptop has BT internal [05:50] Iceblack (n=Iceblack@201-34-169-197.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:50] nullboy, yeah same story here... [05:55] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) left irc: "Leaving" [05:56] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:56] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:56] bimoseptyop (n=bimosept@120.161.120.210) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:58] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:58] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:00] R1: Timing buffered disk reads: 100 MB in 1.75 seconds = 57.11 MB/sec [06:00] R10: Timing buffered disk reads: 228 MB in 3.01 seconds = 75.85 MB/sec [06:00] same disks, just R1 vs R10 [06:00] Hmm.. how come slack comes with ISC DHCPD.. but no rc script for it :/ (obv am aware that bob provides one) [06:00] Packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:01] Packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:04] Zordrak, see rc.inet* [06:06] Jimmen: nothing relevant i can see [06:08] dhcpcd for eth dev startup, but not for dhcpd service -- for that you need to grab bob's rc script afaik [06:08] man ipv6 is hard [06:08] true, sorry [06:09] spook: dont spoil it for me :) [06:09] and this is from someone whos been playing with ipv4 for 10 years [06:09] just put in our 64-bit allocation request [06:10] part of our core business [06:10] i might apply for one :) [06:12] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Zordrak, well, rc for dhcp not comes with slackware, find it here: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/rc_scripts/other_rc_scripts/rc.dhcpd [06:13] straterra (n=straterr@ipv6.projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:15] Reaver_11 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [06:15] Jimmen: that's what I meant by "Bob's" [06:16] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:16] ok [06:16] Nick change: Jimmen -> Shuren [06:17] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "It's not my problem." [06:17] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:18] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:18] straterra (n=straterr@brutalexistenceradio.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:36] dont know how to check what hogs eevrything [06:37] top [06:37] htop [06:37] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [06:37] well i got wine with agame running [06:37] well duh! [06:37] quite alot of ff tabs lol [06:37] and radio streaming [06:38] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:38] 4 irssi windows [06:38] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:38] lw0x15: uduh. [06:38] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [06:38] Action: Zordrak points everyone at the LQ Poll Of The Year thingummy [06:38] streaming radio, lots of ff tabs, plus wine running a game [06:39] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [06:39] lol [06:39] spook: a mmorpg game [06:39] what game? [06:39] silkroad [06:39] 0.o [06:40] what cpu have you got [06:40] AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ [06:40] ram? [06:40] 2gb [06:41] yeah i wouldnt be surprised if it was sluggish [06:41] idk i usually have something like that quite often [06:42] ps -ef | grep updatedb [06:42] yea? [06:42] is it there [06:43] ya [06:43] do you see "updatedb" or "grep updatedb" [06:44] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:44] 9166 9165 98 04:40 ? 06:57:06 /usr/bin/updatedb -c /etc/updatedb.conf [06:44] 0681 10663 0 11:43 pts/4 00:00:00 grep updatedb [06:44] yeah thats why its sluggish [06:44] ^ [06:44] its updating the locate database [06:44] ps auwwwx | grep dnsanalise.pl [06:44] :D [06:44] spook: how long does it take [06:45] lw0x15: df -h and take a guess. [06:45] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [06:45] uh oh [06:45] dorayakikun (n=chotib@114.58.220.48) joined ##slackware. [06:45] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [06:46] is it legal to add . /etc/profile in my .bashrc? [06:46] dios_mio: "legal" ? [06:46] legitimate? [06:46] lol [06:46] doesnt .bashrc override whats in profile? [06:46] dios_mio: It's how I do it [06:47] dont know.. i just want xterms to start as login shells [06:47] cool [06:47] sudo /sbin/modprobe hci_usb ... FATAL: Module hci_usb not found. [06:47] /etc/profile: . /etc/bashrc [06:47] && [06:47] .bashrc : . /etc/profile [06:48] can't start the hidd server without a dev. can't have a dev without driver module... sigh [06:49] hcitool scan ... Device is not available: No such device [06:49] I have no /etc/bashrc [06:49] hcitool dev ... Devices: [06:50] dios_mio: create one [06:50] so i guess the q is, where do i get the hci_usb driver module? [06:52] dios_mio: http://pastebin.ca/1306452 [06:52] blurr: wodprobe it [06:52] s/w/m/ [06:53] blackthorne (n=blacktho@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [06:53] can anyone point me to a netbook well supported by slackware? [06:53] eeePC [06:54] a microwave. [06:54] dios_mio: http://pastebin.ca/1306453 [06:54] doesn't eeePC use less common hardware like the netword wifi card? [06:55] Zordrak, sudo /sbin/modprobe hci_usb ... FATAL: Module hci_usb not found. [06:55] Zordrak, tried that :S [06:56] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-86-56.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:57] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:57] hmmmm [06:57] what runs fortune? [06:57] dios_mio: /etc/profile.d/* [06:57] dios_mio: http://pastebin.ca/1306453 [06:57] oh [06:58] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:58] blurr: My lsmod: http://pastebin.ca/1306455 [06:59] do all the stuff in /ewtc/profile.d get run when you run a shell? [06:59] blurr: that machine uses BT to SMS Nagios alerts through a Nokia 6230i [07:00] dios_mio: Read the /etc/profile such as the one i pasted :: http://pastebin.ca/1306453 [07:01] Zordrak, thanks. hci_usb isn't even there is lsmod for me, nor is bluetooth [07:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:02] Zordrak: yes I see [07:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:04] blurr: ls -la /lib/modules//drivers/bluetooth [07:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:05] should have hci_usb.ko [07:06] if so.. try to `insmod` it [07:06] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:07] christanov (n=christan@201.238.166.116) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:08] xchar (n=xchar@59.94.189.176) left irc: "Leaving" [07:08] Zordrak, ls: cannot access /lib/modules/2.6.27.7/drivers/bluetooth: No such file or directory [07:08] there is no drivers folder in that dir, if that helps o.O [07:10] generic kernel? [07:10] or custom or huge? [07:10] just the normal one [07:11] then should be: [07:11] /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/drivers/bluetooth [07:11] no drivers folder in that dir also. [07:11] ls: cannot access /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/drivers/bluetooth: No such file or directory [07:12] ahh sorry [07:12] /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/bluetooth [07:13] changed location since 2.6.24.5 [07:14] schenkel (n=schenkel@187.4.25.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:14] that worked. what file am i looking for? [07:14] hci_usb? [07:15] yas [07:15] i have hci_uart.ko and hci_vhci.ko but no hci_usb.ko [07:16] hmmm i see that [07:16] been a long time since i set it up and was a number of kernels ago [07:17] hmm. did they discontinue the hci_usb.ko in this kernel? [07:17] or something along those lines [07:17] looking [07:18] ty [07:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:20] nope [07:20] so it should be there then? [07:20] /usr/src/linux/drivers/bluetooth [07:21] ahh [07:21] try: [07:21] modprobe btusb [07:22] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:23] new version that deprecates hci_usb [07:23] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [07:23] hmmm i think i actually got dhcp6s running [07:23] hci_usb only compilable if btusb ISNT [07:23] oh ok. thanks [07:24] spook: PLEASE feel free to publicly document your experience :) [07:24] Zordrak: man dhcp6s.conf is very helpful [07:25] blurr: modprobe btusb SHOULD give you "bluetooth" in lsmod [07:25] yeah it does. magic. [07:25] :) [07:27] spook: Are you watching me? I was responding to staff here about IPv6 when you first mentioned it... then you mentioned dhcp while i have dhcpd.conf open in elvis :) [07:27] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Connection timed out [07:27] Zordrak: are you talking ipv4 or ipv6? [07:27] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-154-70.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] 4.. but still [07:28] Zordrak: whats going wrong? [07:28] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [07:28] what do you mean? [07:28] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:28] have you created the directories and files in /var/lib for dhcpd ? [07:28] err... huh? [07:28] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Zordrak, would hcitool dev still be ok to check if the device is visible? [07:29] blurr: guess so [07:29] hmm. cos it's coming up with no devices. [07:30] /var/state/dhcp/dhcpd.leases << mkdir the directory and touch the file [07:30] woot, i have ipv6 on my local network! [07:31] spook: i dont have a dhcp problem [07:31] spook, how many machines you got on your net? [07:32] Zordrak: oh sorry/ [07:32] Which file is it that let's you put in aliases for domain names? I want foo to point to bar.ath.cx [07:32] blurr: that have ipv6, 3. [07:32] nice [07:33] spook: was just saying would be nice to have your info as reference when i get around to implementing IPv6 && v. coincidental that you keep working in the same areas as me [07:33] i thought it would be resolve.conf, but it says it was generated by dhcpcd, which will overwritten then, i assume. [07:33] i can use firefox to connect to apache on another machine, using http://[2002:ca59:a790::1]/ [07:33] Zordrak: not really [07:33] hiptobecubic: /etc/hosts [07:33] Zordrak, hosts can handle two domain names? i thought it needed an ip [07:34] hiptobecubic: or a CNAME in your DNS server [07:34] ALVAN (n=erters@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [07:34] hiptobecubic: u'd need the IP for hosts [07:34] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:34] blackthorne (n=blacktho@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [07:34] I have a dyndns, so i don't have a permanent ip to put in [07:35] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:35] there's nowhere that you can just redirect things? for example suppose i wanted beans.bitsurge.com to actually point to www.google.com [07:36] yeah you can do that [07:36] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: "leaving" [07:36] spook, howso? [07:36] PsYkHe (n=joao@189.22.214.46) joined ##slackware. [07:37] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-86-56.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:37] /etc/hosts googlesipaddress beans.bitsurge.com [07:37] spook, right but if googlesipaddress weren't static? [07:38] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [07:38] there's no way to make it say, "change beans.bitsurge.com to www.google.com and then go look that up" [07:38] ? [07:38] hiptobecubic, then you make it static by adding the ip in /etc/hosts [07:39] That's not an option. This is for my home server and it's set up with dyndns. the ip is going to periodically change. [07:39] hiptobecubic, if you add that then no matter what dns you have or if the google ip is dynamic [07:40] on your home pc the ip of beans.bitsurge.com will be always googlesipaddress [07:41] ALVAN, i'm not sure i follow what you're saying. the google was just an example. although perhaps not a good one. [07:41] I have this setup [07:41] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [07:41] homeserver with a long url and changing ip [07:41] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: Client Quit [07:41] m0nik3r5 (i=sluttySu@gateway/tor/x-ad77eaf99a671682) left irc: "leaving" [07:41] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [07:41] laptop out and about that i want to be able to ssh with etc without typing the long url. [07:42] lol [07:42] I was planning on using the hostname of the server and just using something like /hosts to redirect it to the longurl [07:42] hiptobecubic, :) [07:42] make a bash alias [07:42] make an alias :P [07:42] but it needs to work for lots of different apps that access the server [07:42] i.e. distcc [07:44] wow.. that fart TINKS! hehe [07:44] s/TINKS/STINKS/ [07:45] hiptobecubic, long url is with paths ??? like www.longurl.com/cc/distcc or simple www.longurl.com [07:45] can you access it by simple typing http://ipaddress [07:45] ledre (n=lrenyah@120.161.255.46) joined ##slackware. [07:46] ALVAN, i feel like you aren't understanding me here. :D [07:46] if is ssh only then use alias man [07:46] it's not [07:46] how to set a background image in X? [07:46] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) got netsplit. [07:46] sycofly (n=chatzill@122-57-142-36.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) got netsplit. [07:46] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) got netsplit. [07:46] Mad_Dud (i=1000@c108-226.icpnet.pl) got netsplit. [07:46] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.104.255) got netsplit. [07:46] there are other services using it as well [07:47] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:47] xset iirc [07:47] at home on the lan it's easy to just put the static lan ip in /hosts and be done with it [07:47] hiptobecubic, so you dont want to use the ip neither right [07:47] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [07:47] fbsetbg killed my enlightenment :( [07:47] but that changes when the ip is dynanmic. you cant just hardcode it like that [07:47] but /hosts doesn't do dns resolution apparently [07:48] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) returned to ##slackware. [07:48] hiptobecubic, so basically you have a dynamic ip at home and you want to access it from outside [07:48] Mad_Dud (i=1000@c108-226.icpnet.pl) returned to ##slackware. [07:48] yes [07:49] without having to type blhablhbafoofoofoobarbar.dynip.myhouse.i.didnt.buy.a.static.ip.net.tz.cn [07:49] allend (n=allend@124-168-67-25.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:49] dios_mio: Did you put the fbsetbg command in an X startup script such as .xinitrc? If so, you'll have to make it run in the background so the next command in line can run). [07:49] gm152, , I ran it in an xterm [07:50] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:50] hiptobecubic: Run a local nameserver [07:50] hiptobecubic: solves all the issues [07:51] on the laptop? [07:51] yes [07:51] Zordrak, dont think it will work [07:51] ledre (n=lrenyah@120.161.255.46) left irc: [07:51] I'm not sure how it works. What does a nameserver do? translation? where does it get it's ips from? [07:51] ought to [07:51] its* [07:52] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.104.255) got lost in the net-split. [07:52] sycofly (n=chatzill@122-57-142-36.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) got lost in the net-split. [07:52] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) got lost in the net-split. [07:52] hiptobecubic: the root servers -- then recurses [07:52] he better run something that pings some static ip where he can get the new ip address [07:52] hiptobecubic: man dnsmasq [07:52] but alias is the best option here [07:53] ALVAN: probably [07:54] i don't see how alias is going to help distcc [07:54] or anything other than ssh [07:54] hiptobecubic: then dnsmasq [07:56] BrunoX1ambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[08:12] mo mention in the slackbuild [08:13] spook: yep. supports listening on IPv6, and AAAA records. [08:13] --enable-ipv6 use IPv6 default=autodetect [08:13] fred: cool thanks [08:13] at least, slamd64 does and I don't change anything there :p [08:13] guess default for bind is on [08:14] night all. cheers for your help Zordrak. [08:14] Action: fred notes what spook said [08:14] blurr: np [08:14] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [08:14] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:15] fred: huh? [08:15] is it wierd that i've never used dhcpcd in ten years of linux use? [08:15] s/wierd/weird/ [08:15] dhclient is whats bundled with isc's dhcpd, isnt it? [08:16] lol... let me try again: [08:16] is it weird that i've never used a linux dhcd client in ten years of linux use? [08:16] not really [08:16] s/dhcd/dhcp/ [08:16] are you a static IP kind of guy? [08:17] yeah [08:17] i'm a static ip guy too [08:17] win boxen have a mini dhcp range-- linux boxes are static [08:17] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:18] just realised.. cause im trying to test a dhcp server with a slack client and realised i really dont know what im doing :) [08:20] oh SHIT [08:20] Note to self: [08:21] Diff ip range or not.. do NOT test a dhcp server on your LIVE network!! 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[08:58] ban me from my prod boxes when im testing test boxes! [08:59] PsYkHe (n=joao@189.22.214.46) joined ##slackware. [09:01] Not a good time for an accidental carriage return when the dir contains 2 files - named.memstats & named.stats - :: mv /var/named/chroot/var/named/stats/* [09:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:03] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:04] anyone else get error msg from "hal" when trying to double click in kde to view a cdrom disc contents in 12.2? 12.0 it worked fine and yes all the perms and groups are set correctly [09:04] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [09:05] dtanner: sorry, dont use either KDE or HAL [09:06] dtanner: are you in the plugdev group ? [09:06] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.36) joined ##slackware. [09:08] lemme check plugdev group [09:09] nope , lemme add myself to that group, i only had to be in the cdrom group before [09:09] but things change a lot with hal and friends :P [09:09] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) joined ##slackware. [09:09] <_chess_> join #slackbuilds [09:12] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: "leaving" [09:13] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [09:14] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:14] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:14] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Nick change: gabriele_ -> panda [09:16] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) joined ##slackware. [09:16] does lynx support ipv6... [09:18] thrice`: yes I am in plugdev group now and i logged out and back in , confirmed I am in the group and still a dirty message from hal when double clicking a cd to view contents in kde [09:18] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: "Leaving" [09:18] breakfast calls me , bbs [09:18] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.120.233) joined ##slackware. [09:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:26] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [09:26] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.120.233) joined ##slackware. [09:30] spook: http://www.ipv6.org/v6-apps.html [09:33] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "quit" [09:34] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] dorayakikun (n=chotib@114.58.220.48) left irc: "Leaving." [09:38] vald0r (n=vald0r@cmr-208-124-137-187.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Anyone want to help me with a Samba Question? [09:38] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.202.23) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:40] spit it out [09:40] I have a large number of users on my samba server and would like to arange them as /home/group1/usernames and /home/group2/usernames (for example). In my samba file im currently sharing the homes directory as /home/%U but of couse this wont work [09:40] any ideas [09:40] dtanner: how did you add your user to the plugdev group ? [09:41] vi [09:41] dtanner, /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload i think [09:42] vald0r, maybe use LVM to combine the two homes and continue using /home/%U [09:42] ok cool [09:42] forgot about that file [09:43] rock n roll thrice [09:43] thanks [09:43] ecelis (n=celisdel@189.137.143.142) left irc: [09:43] if that doesn't work log out of x and restart rc.udev rc.messagebus and rc.hald [09:43] tank-man, any website/documentation I could relate to, to figure out the best way of setting that up? [09:43] close enough :> [09:43] xteraco (n=xteraco@67.133.153.3) joined ##slackware. [09:44] thanks dive [09:44] just wish i could get my hal to work... [09:44] np [09:44] Action: dtanner knocks on his own head for forgetting about restarting thast [09:44] that* [09:45] huepf (n=a@e179147054.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:45] i was *really* fighting a hard one yesterday trying to install a fresh 12.2 [09:45] That's what she said. [09:45] [ in bed ] [09:45] :> [09:45] i have a video capture card that the new kernel wanted to load cx23885.ko and it was turning my c screen to garbled mess [09:46] i blamed corrupt isos , blah blah .. [09:46] i got full ipv6 connectivity on my router pc working [ in bed ] [09:46] And that aroused you? [09:46] never coud even get a /var/log/output [09:46] vald0r, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ [09:46] watched the screen *very very* closely and saw it flash up milliseconds before the garble on boot and then booted the install disc1 [09:47] and then blacklisted that module as a last resort [09:47] now I have a new and shiny 12.2 [09:47] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:47] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:47] except i cant figure how to get forwarding between interfaces going [09:48] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0CCC0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] http://www.pinkfloydz.com/Concert%20Pictures.htm <-sweet [09:50] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.40) joined ##slackware. [09:51] allend (n=allend@124-168-67-25.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:51] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.202.23) joined ##slackware. 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[10:14] everytime that I plug a bt878 pci card in my system sometimes some random program segfaults at 0xffffffdf and then almost everything else does it too, it happens most at booting, but I only have slackware in this computer, and this isnt a faulty memory problem [10:14] very weird problem, I suspect that maybe programs are using mmio space as regular memory or something [10:16] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0CCC0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [10:16] Hotplugging? [10:16] no [10:16] cold plug [10:17] I think that the first time that I plugged the card the kernel could not even boot... [10:18] I swaped the pci slot and it did [10:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:18] the cwm window manager for slackware: http://pastebin.ca/1306542 enjoy. [10:18] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) joined ##slackware. [10:19] hi all and happy hollydays [10:19] ccfreak2k: and sometimes the device starts to trigger a lot of interrupts while its not being used [10:19] sometimes doesnt [10:20] and the interrupt triggering doesnt seem to be related to the random segfaults [10:20] I need help... I just recieved a HD that I have to rescue as much info as I can before it dies [10:20] If you know what module is loaded, have you tried blacklisting it in modprobe.d? [10:21] I will use dd_rhelp but I'm very sceptic about even pluging it in beacuse it's a company hd [10:21] any help from some 1 who has doen this before [10:21] and not from a cd [10:21] or a dvd [10:21] bttv and others of autodetection like tunners, pvr related and so [10:22] Karlitoo: not dd_rhelp. Use ddrescue (GNU ddrescue) [10:22] it has a better recovery algo [10:22] ccfreak2k: I think that I have never tried that, I will try it the next time that I shutoff the system, but I have another pc at hand but it has only windows [10:22] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) joined ##slackware. [10:23] and also this has no happened to me yet when using linux livecds [10:23] run it with -n first to get good data (specify a log) [10:24] then run again with that log to split the bad areas. [10:24] If the info is *very* important, consider a pro shop for the recovery - but it's $$$$ [10:27] so first ddrescue -n /dev/hdb1 /tmp/backup.log and then ddrescue -r 1 /dev/hdb1 /tmp/backup.log [10:27] ?? [10:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: "Bye Bye" [10:29] I'd up the r to 3 at some point... and you'll need to give it an output file. [10:29] root__ (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:29] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] You might also want to pass -d for direct access (bypass kernel caching) [10:30] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:30] root__ (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:30] The -d would only really be useful if you have a ton of bad sectors, so they don't multiply with the cache...If you use it, it can take longer and the drive can heat up...so there's a tradeoff [10:30] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:31] the ddresuce info page is real good. [10:31] Karlitoo: I tell you all this not knowing the actual state of the drive. YMMV [10:32] ty dimmerbold if you are ever in Serbia pass by for a few drinks [10:32] :-) [10:33] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.35) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Karlitoo: one more thing...keep the disk as cool as possible (fan blowing over it, etc.). [10:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:34] Hmm.. this is weird.. my old Dell Dimension starts up, runs for about 10 seconds and then shuts down. Would could be the problem? [10:34] psu / motherboard? :) [10:35] alkos333: Pwr supply? CPU fan? [10:35] well the situation is that it is a windows xp and when I put it in another windows xp to do a disk check it did'nt even boot as a slave (it does recognize it) and even before it even started loading windows on the primary drive it gave me a msg blinking ! with the message Important disk failiure back up all your data from the slave hd [10:35] thanx for the info dimmerbold I owu big time [10:35] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.14.232) joined ##slackware. [10:35] check that the cpu fan isnt connected to the chasis fan connector [10:35] Karlitoo: yw. Thank me more if it works! Good luck! [10:36] ty I will need it [10:36] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.14.232) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:36] well off I go [10:36] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) left irc: "Leaving" [10:36] Karlitoo: can you try running smartctl -H /dev/hda [10:36] in the disk [10:37] ... [10:37] dimmerbold: It's probably the CPU fan, but what exactly about the CPU fan.. [10:37] it worked before... I put the machine in the trunk, drove back to school, turned it on, and ...it started acting up [10:37] alkos333: this happend to me once. an errant wire (my fault) had bent down and touched the cpu fan, stopping it from running [10:38] the computer would boot and the cpu would immedieatley over heat and shut down [10:38] so either the cpu fan is blocked, not working, or the heat sink as been dislodged (if it's a cpu heat problem). [10:38] dimmerbold: k.. well the case is wide open, I've stripped it down from all the Dell plastic... so all I have is the metal casing itself :) [10:38] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:39] thermal shutdown [10:39] oww [10:39] so turn it on and see if the fan works. [10:39] but pull the plug QUICK if it's not. [10:39] dimmerbold: The fan works, let me make sure the heat sink is in its place [10:39] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) joined ##slackware. [10:40] alkos333: if not the fan, then I'll bet a PSU issue. [10:40] hmm [10:40] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.29.184.38) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:41] since this is after a transport, I'd reseat everything ('specially the VC and mem) and double check the fans. [10:41] specifically chipset fans...not case fans. [10:43] k [10:43] What's VC? [10:43] venture capitalist [10:44] gfx card [10:44] Viet Cong [10:45] sorry..vid card [10:45] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.14.232) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.14.232) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:46] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-175-32.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:48] alkos333: if seating everthing and making sure the fans work still does not fix it, then consider swapping the PSU. As peripherals (various I/O and drives) are powered during boot, they draw power and the PSU might just be eventually overloading. does it happen right when a drive starts to spin up or video starts? [10:49] No [10:49] It sits 30 seconds at lilo [10:49] fred: Nice one :) [10:49] dimmerbold: then it proceeds to boot Slack... [10:50] Now it's just sitting at the login prompt [10:52] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:52] so it's working now? [10:52] Yes [10:52] I think it was the heat sink that was disloged [10:52] *dislodged [10:53] alkos333: That would cause a quick shutdown. [10:53] Yes... it didn't let very long .. [10:53] 5 seconds tops... I believe.. [10:55] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.10.156) joined ##slackware. [10:56] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.10.156) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:59] dios2 (n=test@88.241.143.3) joined ##slackware. [10:59] is audacious a default slackware install? [10:59] or did it come from my enlightenment? [10:59] it is better than xmms [10:59] Yes, it is better [10:59] slackware [10:59] It's in stock slack, yeah [11:00] cool [11:02] dios2: You could use http://packages.slackware.it/ to see which packages are a part of official slack [11:02] ok thanks [11:03] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Herman (n=Hermann@h-158-16.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:04] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.10.156) joined ##slackware. [11:06] mwendi (n=ledre@120.164.10.156) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:13] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:14] kopete: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave: [11:15] crap, does anyone have that error when starting kopete? [11:15] thumbs: http://tinyurl.com/9vgsg4 [11:15] :) [11:15] I did [11:16] various posts recommended reinstalling kdelibs and kdebase. Which I did. [11:16] I just like playing with that website :0 [11:16] Enable javascript to use LMGTFY. [11:17] xteraco (n=xteraco@67.133.153.3) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:18] I suppose I can upgrade to 12.2 [11:19] sahko: They just updated to solve that a week ago. [11:19] jkwood: they? [11:20] errr [11:21] http://github.com/coderifous/lmgtfy/commit/249c3d5d3eb7e22dbdacea74b0b6a1cc3716f1cb [11:22] ALVAN (n=erters@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [11:22] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:23] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) joined ##slackware. [11:24] clijunkie (i=pberry@67.223.226.64) joined ##slackware. [11:25] huepf (n=a@e179147054.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:25] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD8BAF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] thumbs: I don't get that error, but 1) I am on slackware 12.2. Two: I am running a complete and full install. [11:26] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:27] sherique (n=ri@adsl-68-92-159-76.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] kama (n=kama@87.19.118.193) joined ##slackware. [11:28] dimmerbold: Actually.. it just shut down again [11:28] dimmerbold: stayed on for a few minutes [11:31] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] alkos333: bummer. Were you doing anything on it? [11:32] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [11:33] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-175-32.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [11:34] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [11:34] dimmerbold: Nah, nothing at all. [11:34] dimmerbold: It was just sitting there, at the login prompt [11:35] BP{k}: it was fine yesterday... [11:35] alkos333: Then I'm just about outta ideas. One last thought: [11:35] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] does the cpu heatsink use thermal compound? When you reseated, you might not have a great surface contact. [11:36] I'd suggest shutting down, removing the fan/heat sink, cleaning all surfaces and re-attaching with thermal compound (if it was used prior). All of this depends on the cpu you're using...I'm just swining at the wind here. [11:36] dimmerbold: Yes, there's no white stuff on it at all... really [11:36] I didnt install Tcl/Tk when installing my slackware... can I install them now? will it mess up the system? [11:37] dios2: yes. no. [11:37] cool [11:37] anyone here have working ipv6? [11:37] works on mine - too bad I only have an ipv4 network, though :) [11:38] alisonken1home: i'm after someone who has 6to4 [11:39] spook: ok - "My i/f has ipv6, but only ipv4 works on my network" - sorry, have to upgrade the house before I can use ipv6 and test it out [11:39] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] if I had more time at my older job, I was going to upgrade the local net (aobut 15 machines/printers/routers/etc) to ipv6 with a 6to4 router to the internet [11:40] 6to4 isnt that hard to setup :) [11:41] seemd pretty easy to me, just ran out of time before changing jobs [11:41] (at least by reading the docs) [11:41] and with rfc4something something you can get a special unicast address to find the "nearest" bgp router between 6to4 and native ipv6 [11:44] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:51] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-213-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] <[MA]Amine> how to read a .chm files in Slackware GNU/Linux ? [11:53] chmsee is a nice option [11:54] <[MA]Amine> ok I will try it thx [11:54] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] theres many apps, gnochm probably kde ones too [11:54] kchmviewer has a SlackBuild available. [11:55] <[MA]Amine> ok thx [11:55] don't have my laptop with me at the moment, but I believe I have kchmviewer installed there - looks good as I remember it [11:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:58] giuppy (n=giuppy@host77-162-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:58] plankton (n=peretto@200.195.137.98) joined ##slackware. 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[12:08] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:09] <[MA]Amine> my ambition is to deploy a PBX server based in Slackware juts Like trixbox, is there is someone interested to help ? :) [12:09] clijunkie (i=pberry@67.223.226.64) left ##slackware. [12:10] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] anyone else here use MSN? [12:12] me [12:12] pidgin doesnt work right? try aMSN [12:12] [MA]Amine: THat can already be done using slackware and asterisk. [12:12] dios2: pidgin was working fine before 5 mins ago [12:13] Dominian: my kopete is crashing now [12:13] apparently Microsoft changed something in the protocol so pidgin doesn't work,,, but aMSN works ok [12:13] Dominian: I suspect the MSN servers changed [12:13] aye [12:13] Dominian: I think it makes kopete crash [12:13] well it would mean that kopete and pidgin both have the broken protocol [12:13] Dominian: since all my other K apps work [12:13] #pidgin is aware of the problem [12:13] Dominian: and I didn't touch any KDE package since yesterday [12:14] dios2: I figured they were [12:14] <[MA]Amine> Dominian: yes of course I will use the same.. but where I will contribute more is in performance of asterisk and The Interface Management that will be write in PHP5, and much more ... [12:14] umm ok [12:15] IIRC since i built pidgin (finch) a couple of days ago, it had an option to enable an m15 protocol or something. dont know if its enabled in the slack pkg [12:15] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [12:15] <[MA]Amine> Dominian: I will concurrence trixbox LOOL.. I swear ;) [12:15] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD2B904.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:15] we'll see [12:16] sahko: hrm.. [12:16] sahko: was that just for finch or did that apply to the GUI pidgin as well? [12:16] <[MA]Amine> yesss and plz don't hesitate to supporting me :) [12:16] I'll support any product that "works" properly [12:16] --disable-msnp15 Disable the newer MSNP15 protocol [12:17] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] sahko: check the slackbuild for it.. if that isn't in there.. my guess is that MSNP15 is enabled by default [12:17] no its for gui too. i guess it enabled by default. hence the --disable [12:17] aye [12:17] <[MA]Amine> Dominian: that's it :) [12:19] evo- (n=evo@p4FD2B761.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:19] maybe it wasnt available in 2.5.2? im on 2.5.3 :p [12:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [12:20] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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Im getting an error with virtualbox slackbuild [12:31] dev86 [12:31] hackedhead: tnx [12:31] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] Amallya (n=Adyna@89.137.201.44) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:31] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:32] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn2-212-50-134-15.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:32] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [12:33] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn122.78-99-194.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Amallya (n=Adyna@89.137.201.44) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Dominian: apparently, KDE 3.5.10 solves the MSN issue [12:37] Dominian: are you using 12.2? [12:37] MSN has WAAAAY too many problems [12:38] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn2-212-50-134-15.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] thumbs: I'm on slamd64 [12:38] and using windows at work [12:38] There is a fix for pidgin [12:38] <[MA]Amine> it's a property of windows LOL [12:38] one sec [12:38] installing the msn-pecan from googlecode fixed the probvlem with pidgin on Windows [12:38] http://code.google.com/p/msn-pecan/ [12:38] yes [12:38] same for linux [12:38] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn2-212-50-134-15.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:39] http://code.google.com/p/msn-pecan/wiki/HowToInstall [12:39] <[MA]Amine> try Kmess it's seems more stable [12:39] [MA]Amine, I need something for console [12:39] <[MA]Amine> hmm.. no Idea [12:40] well pidgin comes with Finch - console text client [12:40] uses same account info as pidgin [12:40] works well [12:40] so [12:40] dive: centerim is nice [12:40] I just installed the fix, changed my msn protocol to WML and it works fine [12:41] I'm not sure if you're asking or answering, though [12:41] Kaapa, ok I will have a look [12:41] whats the prob with Pidgin ? [12:41] it's, by far, the best I ever saw [12:41] makes me use that instead of a gui one [12:41] Kaapa, I did try centericq once - is it by the same people? [12:42] foureyes779, theres a problem with signing in using msn proto [12:42] but theres a fix [12:42] dive: I think the original maintainer left, so the community picked it and renamed it [12:42] dive: but yes, it's basically the same [12:42] dont use MSN, thats MY fix...heh [12:42] Kaapa, but it does multi protocols? [12:42] foureyes779, msn15 protocol is not accepted in msn server from 11 Jan [12:43] dive: of course... about 10 or so :p [12:43] foureyes779, yeah thats great but every person I know that doesn't use linux, which is a lot, use msn [12:43] and yes, msn works if that's what you're asking [12:43] dive: what about bitlbee? [12:43] <[MA]Amine> msn is a virus used by Microsoft to spy people :P [12:44] and if I try get them change, they say 'but why? msn works for me...' [12:44] heh [12:44] qneo, dont recall if i tried that one - i will look at it too [12:44] thanks for the suggestions all [12:44] schenkel (n=schenkel@187.4.25.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:51] nille_ (i=1000@c-e462e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:52] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] hcfd (n=hacfed@host86-147-59-33.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] Does anyone know if there's a way to get my thingerprint reader on my laptop to work without the need of pam? (it's an lenovo t60) [12:55] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:56] Hi there. I'm having problems installing 12.1 on a Tyan Tiger (S2460) machine with 2xAthlonMP processors. When I boot the hugesmp.s kernel, initrd.img loads, says ready and then hangs. Thoughts? [12:56] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [12:56] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-44-79-242-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] so it hangs before you can enter setup? [12:59] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [12:59] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) got netsplit. [12:59] Tibux (n=Tib@tibux.org) got netsplit. [12:59] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [12:59] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) got netsplit. [12:59] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) got netsplit. [12:59] Dinde (n=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) got netsplit. [12:59] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] Tibux (n=Tib@tibux.org) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] Dinde (n=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) returned to ##slackware. [12:59] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [13:00] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) got netsplit. [13:00] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [13:00] Tibux (n=Tib@tibux.org) got netsplit. [13:00] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [13:00] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) got netsplit. [13:00] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) got netsplit. [13:00] Dinde (n=kayser@81-65-176-209.rev.numericable.fr) got netsplit. [13:00] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) returned to ##slackware. [13:00] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) returned to ##slackware. [13:00] nille_, yes.. when I'm at the installer's boot: prompt for kernel / parameters selection, I can try all the kernels (but the one I need is hugesmp.s). None of them will load properly -- all of them hang just after initrd.img loads into RAM. [13:00] Tibux (n=Tib@tibux.org) returned to ##slackware. [13:00] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [13:01] Possible future nick collision: gregsparc [13:03] and you want 12.1 and haven't tested 12.2? [13:04] I haven't downloaded 12.2 [13:04] nille_: AFAIK you cant. pam is needed [13:04] This machine is from 2001 era, so I'd expect that it is supported. I mean I can boot Knoppix 3.2 live CD, no problem. [13:05] sahko thanks that's what i thought :( [13:06] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got lost in the net-split. [13:06] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) got lost in the net-split. [13:06] it isnt that secure anyway [13:06] getting pam to work with slackware is trivial [13:06] but making the application work with pam in slackware is another story [13:07] well i only wanted to play with the hardware since i got it, so it's not important [13:10] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [13:10] when i tested mine on windows, i found it uterly useless. unless youre bored typing your username to login [13:12] i just wanted to make everything work on my laptop, i don't really need it. [13:13] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: "Slackware GNU/Linux - World domination is a click away!" [13:15] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) joined ##slackware. [13:15] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [13:19] jnglst (n=mort@ys58.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:20] blackthorne (n=blacktho@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [13:21] how can you change window managers without shutting down your programs [13:21] ? [13:22] Nick change: mina86|aw -> mina86 [13:22] you don't [13:22] lol [13:22] dios2, what programs ? [13:22] screen(1) [13:22] like xchat etc [13:23] dios2: If you switch window managers are desktop environments.. you have to close out of the one you're using to load the new one.. which means.. closing your applications [13:23] s/are/or [13:24] it's like having to reboot windows to change your theme [13:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:24] I wonder if you can run X apps in screen and keep them between loads of X. [13:25] window managers switch with one another in their menus sometimes.. like in wmaker you can switch to blackbox [13:25] I was just wondering if there is a way to do it in cli [13:26] jkwood: I doubt it. [13:26] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "reboot" [13:26] mindbendr (n=neveraga@80.68.37.130) left irc: "leaving" [13:27] dios2, You can't do that, because window manager is some kid of underlying software which works on top X window [13:27] To give user the direct GUI functions [13:27] Hmm... I suppose you're right. You'd have to run them in a different virtual terminal, and that wouldn't see X... [13:27] pip, but you can switch window managers in their menus sometimes [13:29] I know you can switch out compiz for kwin while running it. [13:29] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:30] woa http://www.techspot.com/news/33154-Mozilla-Firefox-dumps-Google-for-Yandex-in-Russia.html [13:31] http://www.yandex.ru/ is that it? lol [13:32] oj its http://www.yandex.com/ [13:32] does anyone here know why "poppler" was taken out of KDE-4 deps on slackware? 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[14:16] which is the greatest desktop uptime known for linux? [14:16] Avelino (n=Avelino@mail.paterno.com.br) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [14:17] DareDevil0 (n=linux@201.201.187.14) joined ##slackware. [14:17] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [14:18] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: "Leaving" [14:19] evo- (n=evo@p4FD2B6F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:19] nick4 (n=alek@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:20] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-59c585221b944893) left irc: [14:21] I am trying to ping the IP that my router gives me through DHCP (192.168.1.34) but I can't. iptables is set to allow everything. I can ping the router though. Any ideas on why this is happening? [14:21] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [14:23] and you can ping it without the firewall? [14:24] I have disabled any firewall in Slack just to be sure it's not that [14:24] but I still can't ping my own IP, as in ping 192.168.1.34 [14:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c4f701c0f2d9e3f8) joined ##slackware. [14:25] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [14:26] where are you pinging from? [14:26] make sure with 'ifconfig' that your ip is in fact 192.168.1.34 ? [14:26] and what it says when you ping your own IP_ [14:26] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-c4f701c0f2d9e3f8) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] dtanner: I am sure about that [14:26] jescis (i=1000@adsl-074-182-032-098.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Iceblack (n=Iceblack@201-34-169-197.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: [14:27] nick4: IPv4 addresses beginning with 192.168. are "local" and not visible to the internet, so they're also unpingable [14:27] dissociative: nothing it just waits and then I stop ping with ctrl-c and it sais 100% packet loss [14:27] Aldaron: I can ping my local IP address from another linux machine [14:27] nick4: what is the IP address of that machine which runs the ping? [14:27] I also can't ping localhost :-/ [14:27] just noticed [14:27] nick4: /sbin/routef [14:27] thats bad [14:28] O do you have network modules at all? [14:28] wait wait wait [14:28] Does ifconfig -a show any interfaces? [14:28] yes [14:28] I can ping google [14:28] cant ping localhost? [14:28] but not local host [14:28] O_o [14:28] what's the output of /sbin/route [14:28] just a second dissociative [14:28] You messed up your network config badly if you cannot ping localhost [14:29] I will need to login to IRC from within X to paste output of commands [14:29] iptables-save should show no output if your firewall is 100% flushed iirc [14:29] alienBOB: Probably, I was trying to set up static IPs [14:29] dtanner: All in ACCEPT. OK, I will be riiiight back [14:29] nick4 (n=alek@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [14:29] it should have an entry for the gateway, the local net, the loopback [14:30] oww [14:30] why he just doesnt run irssi in screen [14:31] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] The output of route: http://pastebin.com/m4bab35fc [14:32] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0EA46.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [14:32] looks good [14:33] nick4, when you say you cant ping localhost, do you mean localhost ot 127.0.0.1 ? [14:33] I can't ping localhost nor 127.0.0.1 [14:33] eh [14:33] that's not right [14:33] deLusion_ (n=deLusion@pool-72-91-120-225.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] not right 127.0.0.0 network is not listed for one [14:34] it won't be either [14:34] its considered 'loopback' [14:34] DareDevil0 (n=linux@201.201.187.14) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] lo [14:34] the "default gateway" line is the only one that looks right to me [14:35] CRAP! [14:35] cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all [14:35] that whole route looks fine [14:35] all look right [14:35] yeah [14:35] nick4: set to 1? [14:35] that was it [14:35] heh [14:35] how did that thing went to 1???? [14:35] doh [14:35] fun! \o/ [14:35] nick4: Do you have an rc.firewall script that enables that? [14:35] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] hmmm, I dont remember Dominian , lets check... [14:36] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [14:36] yikes! yes! [14:36] i take that back , i was thinking he ran with -n, so the * should show up , looks correct [14:36] I must have used an ancient rc.firewall [14:36] i suspect iptables [14:36] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:36] anyway, it's fixed now [14:36] Thanks guys :) [14:36] iptables doesn't set /proc/sys/net stuff dtanner [14:36] that's something you have to set manually yourself with a script or command line reference.. that's all part of kernel routing functions.. not iptables [14:37] true, i always suspect iptables when someone says "i took my firewall down" then they are having network issues though =0 [14:37] heh [14:37] no, there was a command there specifically setting cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all to 1 [14:37] bad script [14:37] right [14:37] yes [14:37] Action: dtanner smashes all the crappy firewall scripts [14:37] nick4: I was about to have you check in there foranything right as you said it lol [14:37] ignoring icmp isn't bad [14:38] yes [14:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] its just bad if you use it to test ;) [14:38] ahhh [14:38] well, I am using ping for testing [14:38] well, what other ways are there to check whether a computer is actually connected right to the network? [14:38] man pastebin.com is one busy site [14:39] dtanner whenever pastebin.com is busy, I go to pastebin.ca [14:39] ppl should point to raw txt paste [14:39] Which is surprising given the highlighting schema they use. [14:39] That and the fact you can't copy/paste the highlighted code. [14:39] I use my own pastebin [14:39] But well, they did get there first [14:39] puff puff [14:40] Dominian: how, a web server [14:40] Yep. [14:40] dissociative: yep [14:40] pastebin.slackadelic.com [14:40] Dominian how do you test whether a computer communicates alright with the rest of the network? [14:40] Same, I've got one I run. [14:40] nick4: usually ping [14:40] hehe [14:40] hah :D [14:40] I sometimes do to. [14:40] schenkel_ (n=schenkel@189.72.3.139) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] are there any other ways? [14:40] tracerouting [14:41] schenkel_ (n=schenkel@189.72.3.139) joined ##slackware. [14:41] schenkel_ (n=schenkel@189.72.3.139) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:41] shiny new 12.2 here Dominian , I just did a fresh install for the first time in a while [14:41] traceroute depends heavily on ping [14:41] dtanner: nice [14:41] hmmm I am thinking that perhaps nmap can act like this [14:42] okey, now I need to go and try set up static IPs so I need to log-off again [14:42] bye and thanks [14:42] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [14:44] eh [14:44] hmm anyone know the name of the puzzle game where you move boxes on a board from a starting location to a final spot? [14:44] why does he keep logging off to set IPs lol [14:45] i dunno why he is doing that Dominian [14:45] Dominian, windows habbit I s'pose. I got some nasty habbits too [ in bed ] :) [14:45] wassup Old_Fogie [14:45] paste that alias for me [14:45] heh [14:45] hello dtanner how are ya [14:45] hehe [14:45] ( in bed ) [14:45] doin good , havin coffee and a stogie Fogie :P [14:45] Wescotte: sokoban perhaps? [14:45] ib say $0- [ in bed ] [14:46] /alias ib say $0- [ in bed ] <------ that's for irssi [14:46] alienBOB: that's it thanks [14:46] When I use any KDE applications to access files on a Samba share on the network, the applications keep 'hanging' -- doesn't happen with xine, but happens with audacious, amarok, JuK and others. No problems if I use a Windows machine to access the share. What could be the problem? [14:46] dtanner, under 'settings' 'advanced' 'auto replace' 'add new' use [ in bed ] :) [14:46] that was the one, I am in irssi [ in bed ] [14:46] dtanner, that's for xchat [14:47] hcfd: KDE4? [14:47] dtanner: you can type /ib by itrself to get just the end [14:47] Dominian: yeah [14:47] hcfd: look for errors in the samba server log for that particular KDE box [14:47] Akuma (n=kvirc@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:47] dtanner, oh I'm getting my pipe ready; and going to chop some wood soon (we're going to be in the negative numbers next few days) [14:47] i see [14:47] holdmypocket (n=holdmypo@autodiscover.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Old_Fogie: it is in the 60's here today , blue skies and all that [14:48] dtanner, warm fire, a pipe ...and a foot of snow on the ground [14:48] Old_Fogie: still a little chilly on the bike but thats what chaps are for [14:48] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [14:48] i'm having trouble getting dual monitors to work on one card using the nvidia driver... the 'nv' driver works, but firefox performs very slowly using it [14:48] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [14:48] I have some "ol Henry" and Texas Honey pipe tobacky left [14:48] How're you setting them up? [14:48] basically what happens is one monitor will work.. but not both of them unless i set one of them to the nv driver [14:49] i may fire up the pipe in a little while myself [14:49] both monitors are plugged into the same card using the vga plug and the dvi plug with an adapter [14:49] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:49] dtanner, yes it's a nice treat. hey I was just looking at the scrollback here, your a gware dev? I didn't realize that. [14:50] I'm lazy these days, so I tend to backup xorg.conf, then tweak it using nvidia-settings (as root for access to xorg.conf) [14:50] Twinview or Separate X Screen + Xinerama. [14:50] [ in bed ] [14:51] heh, thx Old_Fogie [14:51] I have not been for a year now , I took a Loooong break from computers in general so i get none credit for the last year of dev. I plan on helping more now though. Erik and I started the project [14:51] slackytude, :D [14:51] It's always done what I wanted it to. [14:51] He and joeyt have been doing all the work [14:51] i am testing right now for 12.2 gware [14:51] dtanner, ah I see ok (good to know I'm not the only gnome user here on slack :) [14:51] today, at work I was tasked to print info sheets about all customers with support contract. [14:51] dtanner, well xfce is my preferred, but I build gnome for the wife. [14:51] alienBOB, what would be the path to that file? btw, the samba server is running on busybox on a NAS enclosure. [14:52] i always prefferred gnome over kde , well i like gtk over qt in general xfce gnome [14:52] and i still love ye old fluxbox [14:52] dtanner, but been running the gnome more lately to test on 12.2 [14:52] that was when I discovered that our app barfs on it after 15 entries or so [14:52] dtanner, yes I like the look too as well. [14:52] i mainly use gnome since I will be getting more involved in the project again now [14:52] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.143.3) left irc: [14:52] holdmypocket, I've found that the quickest way to resolve issues like that is to google for an xorg.conf that someone else has put on the web, one that uses same or similar hardware. [14:53] hcfd: i'll continue my search but haven't had too much luck. appreciate it though [14:53] dtanner, from looks of the changelog looks like they're getting closer to a release. [14:53] why not RTM instead of useless googling [14:53] alisn91 (n=Alisson@189.81.41.226) joined ##slackware. [14:53] jean-1uc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left ##slackware ("."). [14:53] gnome 2.42.2 (gware in testing for 12.2) running and testing the build right now ( although i did not help with the build [14:54] holdmypocket, I'm no expert on it at all.. I just tweak until it works, and I've found googling for xorg.conf + board model name usually helps out. Good luck on your search :) [14:54] google is evil [14:54] evil is google [14:54] dtanner, the policy kit was the sticking point (got over it tho) for my own gnome build here. no doubt that's probably the issue. other than the policy kit, I found the 2.24.x about the same as prior builds (plus the instant messenger add ons) [14:55] holdmypocket: try X -configure or 'xorgconfig' [14:55] dtanner, tho I added pam to my system, don't see that there on theirs (wiser minds than mine probably figured out how to get it without the pam) [14:56] get your monitors specs on H and V and use the correct driver in your xorg.conf [14:56] Old_Fogie: yeah, we do not use the PAM at all in gware [14:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:57] dtanner, oh I wanted to avoid it, but I simply couldn't get 'gdm' after the 2.20.X series (even tho gdm is sill usable on later revs) to build without it. [14:57] dtanner: tried it hoping it would automagically work.. no luck =\ [14:57] gdm working good here [14:58] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] Old_Fogie: want to help test you are welcome to -> ftp://ftp.gware.org/12.2/2.24.2/ [14:58] dtanner, tho in hind site, after having the PAM on here now, it's nice that gdm opens the keyring and therefore, not presenting me with a login name and pass the first time I open my keyring for mail, lan browsing, etc. So I s'pose it was nice, but a pita at first, heh. I've had my fair share of locked up vm's tho learning how to write it/confg the pam tho. [14:59] Old_Fogie: running smooth here [14:59] Old_Fogie: look at the INSTALL and README in 12.1 , you will need to edit a couple of files [15:00] Old_Fogie: did you get you some stogies yesterday / [15:00] ? [15:00] dtanner, I'm running my own version these days , tho I do look at their scripts if I hit a snafu. [15:00] I am puffin on the cheapo Blenders Gold from walgreens today [15:00] i see, cool. [15:00] dtanner, i run the 2.22.X ..2.24 and their dev branches ( I got 3 versions fully scrited heh) [15:00] sweet [15:01] dtanner, slackware/sbo style scripts with minor tweakage to go into a distcc farm of p3-500's :) [15:01] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [15:01] dtanner, do they have a 'build system' you know of? [15:02] not a "script" or "system" we biuld them in a certain order package by package [15:02] xteraco (n=xteraco@67.133.153.3) joined ##slackware. [15:02] with SlackBuild scripts for each package [15:03] Akuma3 (n=kvirc@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] more coffee [15:03] neverwas1 (n=Adam@246.138.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] c0nflict (i=500@134-102.94-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:04] I am trying to get bugzilla running on a fresh slackware 12.1 install, i am having trouble getting mod_perl to load from CPAN, any helpful hints? [15:05] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] infbliss (n=user@206.16.96.208) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Old_Fogie: I am OUT " O U T" of Rocly patel EDGE stogies . tis a sad moment smokin the "not so bad cheapies" [15:07] specifically: I don't know where slackware puts apache source if it's on there at all..... [15:07] dtanner, oh I know the feal [15:07] dtanner, a snippet of my build scripts http://pastebin.com/de50453c [15:07] neverwas1: in the source/ directory on any mirror [15:08] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:08] infbliss (n=user@206.16.96.208) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [15:08] dtanner, that was in essence what I thought they (gware) might have had/wanted , but never could find their build order. [15:09] dtanner, I should probably ask them to shoot me a list I'd be willing to put it together for them. [15:10] what's nice is, it doesnt monkey with the scripts, leaves them as is. so it's clean for a /src ftp hosting. user doesn't have to wonder what went on behind the scenes and what not. [15:10] I used a script to build a while back ( over a year ago ) similar function , it dove ito directories and build [15:10] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn122.78-99-194.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:11] dtanner, yea dive and build...just awesome. [15:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] they may be using their own way of building as far as a simple script to bild in a certain order [15:11] I will ask erik and joeyt [15:11] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] I am bored [15:12] alright so now I get Apache Version 1.3.0 required... [15:13] smallgoat (n=andy@host81-152-46-102.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] that was ridiculously easy.. all i had to do was startx and type nvidia-settings [15:13] thanks for the help everyone [15:15] [MA]Amine (n=chatzill@196.206.236.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:15] evo- (n=evo@p4FD296EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:15] holdmypocket, "that was ridiculously easy" , hahah, I *know* that feeling. Sometimes you think something's going to be an all day process and it's not, it's the one's you think are going to be simple I find are the one's that really get ya. [15:19] rworkman (i=3356@slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [15:20] fuzzbawl: ping [15:20] how do I get *.cgi scripts to run instead of apache printing them out like webpages? [15:21] Old_Fogie: I've easily spent the last 4 hours here at work tinkering with my xorg.conf lol [15:21] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [15:21] holdmypocket, bet you *wont* forget the next time tho :) [15:22] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD28DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:22] neverwas1: you have to tell apache that those are scripts or that is a script directory. look in the apache config file for those directives [15:22] neverwas1: edit your httpd.conf accordingly is my first guess [15:22] yessum? [15:23] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: [15:24] bbl gonna go throw snowballs at the neighbors kids :) [15:24] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:24] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:25] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:26] lol [15:28] hey wikipedia is saying that Raid 10 requires a minimum of 4 disks but i have it working just fine with 3 disks using mdadm [15:29] Okay, my NAS enclosure - running busybox - reports a very very high percentage of dropped Rx packets when I do ifconfig. Why would that be? I think it explains my Samba share access problem. [15:30] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [15:30] hcfd, dropped rx packets is due to either a malformed/bad packet received or the TTL expired during transit (very high latencies) [15:30] the most common problem is a bad cable [15:30] nullboy: guess what? wikipedia's right... [15:30] _ohm (n=nava@own30748RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:30] fred: how is it working then? [15:30] the array isn't degraded [15:31] fuzzbawl, I'll swap that out and see. Pretty sure it's fine though, I ran it through a tester for continuity, though I know that's not a proper testing. [15:31] dropped packets on wired or wireless connection? [15:31] Thanks. [15:31] nullboy: i wouldn't trust it. RAID-10 is a mirror of striped pairs [15:31] Wired, Cat5e, 100Mbps LAN [15:31] nullboy: it's probably not what you're thinking [15:31] Everything's into a hub atm [15:31] nooper: doesn't matter. they are dropped for the same reasons [15:32] raid "10" is either raid 0/1 or raid 1/0 - either way, both them of them need at least two block devices to work [15:32] fuzzbawl / fred: it's a test bed system anyway, i'm going to rip out a disk and see what happenes [15:32] hcfd, hub's are bad. collisions will appear as drops [15:32] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:32] which evere one you put on bottom needs 4 disks to expose 2 block devices to the layer below. [15:32] fuzzbawl: msg me please [15:32] fred: i created using the slackware installer --level 10 [15:33] hubs are so hard to find nowdays [15:33] fuzzbawl, the hub is 'fine' for everything else I do with it, it's just that this NAS enclosure causes my apps to slow and eventually hang when I access a share. [15:33] neverwas1 (n=Adam@246.138.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net) left ##slackware. [15:33] I'm poor and can't afford a switch since the one I had broke =) [15:34] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:34] hcfd, if you are doing it via something that does broadcast requests before the share access, i.e. SAMBA without a WINS then you will always see that delay [15:35] nullboy: can you pastebin the output of mdadm -Ebsc partitions ? [15:35] fred: sure one sec [15:35] fuzzbawl, you are knowledgeable indeed! How would I go about resolving the issue then? Is it a simple procedure to setup a WINS server? [15:36] Dual-monitors in fluxbox on slackware = b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l [15:36] oh wtf... [15:36] Action: fred finds "Linux MD RAID 10" on wikipedia... [15:36] that's not RAID10 :S [15:36] haha [15:36] fred: you see what why i'm confoozled [15:36] hcfd, yes. I would setup a WINS server and point the workstations to that. Should help significantly [15:36] holdmypocket: dual monitors in slackware, perios, = b-e-a-t-u-t-i-f-u-l :) [15:36] s/perios/period/ [15:37] hcfd, Samba can act as a WINS server if you enable the options in smb.conf [15:37] why stop at 2 monitors :) [15:37] SlackLnx (n=Lee@bl6-142-120.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:37] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-138-210.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] nullboy: it looks like it might do a partitioning trick... [15:37] fred: transparent to me right? [15:37] smallgoat (n=andy@host81-152-46-102.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:37] tank-man: because I only have so much room for monitors, and the wife won't let me put a wall bracket up in the livingroom for 9 :) [15:38] nullboy: yup [15:38] nullboy: what's your usable capacity/disk capacity ratio on that raid? [15:38] fuzzbawl, thank you! I will look into that :) [15:39] xdan779 (n=daniel@s233-75-207.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] hcfd, no problem =) [15:39] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [15:39] fred: three 80GB disks = ~110G for / [15:39] is there a good client to connect to an ms exchange server 2007? [15:40] a hammer? [15:40] fred: but the output of that command you wanted me to post is strange. i think i have a problem somewhere: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/9368 [15:40] i heard thunderbird can, dunno if its 'good' [15:40] nullboy: hmm... I'm thinking if you split each disk into two partitions, one data, one a mirror of another disk's data partition, then raid0, then you get something like raid10 but with 3 disks (but not raid10) [15:40] hmm [15:41] fred: in that pastebin, do you have any idea why it lists md0 twice with different uuid? [15:41] fred: is that the "trick" [15:41] if it nests it like I guessed, that would explain it [15:41] ah [15:41] as it would be doing raid1 over the "partitions" [15:41] right [15:42] so R10 under linux is teh weird [15:42] linux might call /that/ raid10 but it's not [15:42] however, it does do raid10 with 4 disks normally :p [15:42] do you think if i had 4 disks that output would be different? [15:43] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:43] my guess is it would probably have a third md0 with level=raid0 between the two existing ones [15:43] valvola (n=val@host99-249-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "valvo is shutting down..." [15:43] what it's doing is a neat trick, safe (I think), but not raid10 :) [15:44] yeah that's what happens when there is no standard for a designation [15:45] when I ls for svgalib_helper I find it. But when modprobe looks for it, it can't. :\ what's up with that? [15:45] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:46] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD295DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:49] ***thinking... do i need THREE monitors? hmmm.. [15:50] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl62-15.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [15:50] Yes. [15:50] rworkman_ (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) joined ##slackware. [15:51] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] No. However, you DO need to send the third one to me. [15:52] rworkman (i=3356@slackware.com) left ##slackware. [15:52] rworkman_: given up on cardinal? :p [15:52] Nick change: rworkman_ -> rworkman [15:52] nope [15:52] That was *leaving* :) [15:52] Action: fred is slightly jealous of your fallback shell :p [15:53] hehe [15:53] hah [15:53] Action: fred also wonders why his hostmask has reactivated :S [15:53] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl114-183.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:55] if i ssh into a host and want to download a file, how would i go about that? [15:56] wget [15:56] you'd use scp [15:56] well, depends on where from >< [15:56] well, if you want to download from $somewhere to the host, wget :) if you want to downlaod from server to yourself, scp [15:56] what would the command for wget look like? wget 10.10.10.10.... ? [15:56] Action: fred slaps Camarade_Tux [15:56] GET OUT OF MY HEAD [15:56] Action: Camarade_Tux is used to ssh'ing to his webhost with 20MB/s ;) [15:57] fuzzbawl, okay, so I appended the smb.conf file so that smbd would act as a WINS server also. Now I can see all my shared folders, but not any files. Does that make any sense to you? :) [15:57] btw, I'm really tired and moreover I'm preparing something really big so I'm definitely somewhere else ;) [15:58] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve4-0-0-cust53.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:59] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve4-0-0-cust53.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] hcfd: make sure the NAS points to the WINS also [16:01] evo- (n=evo@p4FD296EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:02] Hey, that's my job! [16:02] jkwood: pointing at WINS? [16:02] no, 15:56 < fred> GET OUT OF MY HEAD [16:02] fuzzbawl, I'm not sure what you mean. The NAS is running busybox distro, and smbd. I appended "wins support=yes" to smb.conf and restarted smbd - so that's where I'm at. [16:03] fred: i figured out that output, it was an error on my part. i had created an array previously and then created another with the same mdX spec but i never zeroed out the superblocks from before [16:03] fred: after i zeroed it all out that command displays only one md0 and one md1 [16:03] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:03] :) [16:03] i think mdadm was seeing the phantom signature [16:04] and i'm going back to R5 [16:04] ;) [16:06] when you guys install slackware with RAID support on / do you let the initial sync finish before you start installing the packages or do you just move forward while the initial background sync goes down? [16:07] hcfd, oh. make sure your workstations are using that as a WINS server. Make sure nmbd started also [16:07] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.149.210) joined ##slackware. [16:08] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [16:10] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.120.233) joined ##slackware. [16:12] fuzzbawl, still googling to find where I should set that option [16:12] on the workstations? or the nmbd option? [16:12] on the workstations.. [16:12] but.. [16:13] smb://192.168.0.254 is my NAS and I use that address when connecting all the time, and I still have problems. I don't understand how WINS can be an issue when I'm using the IP address? [16:13] Please enlighten me fuzzbawl :) [16:14] hcfd, now that i'm not sure of. If you are browsing directly to the IP and it is having trouble then that would be a permissions issue I would think [16:14] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Hmm. [16:15] Well, I know the drive is set to be viewable by all - it doesn't ask for a user/pass [16:15] Other shares are user/pass access, but not this one [16:16] try taking the wins option out and see if things go back to normal [16:16] It seems I can always connect and view folders and files, but when I try to play said files (mostly mp3s and videos) I either get one track/file successful, and it then craps out, or else when I try to access a file in any way (even just clicking and selecting it, not opening) it does the same [16:17] Sure, I can reboot the NAS and it'll go back to my previous saved config [16:17] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [16:18] It seems that sometimes it will work better than others. For example, I was using it fine to play music last night, and both this workstation and the NAS have remained booted since then.. but when I access files now, all my apps hang. [16:19] I've replaced the eth cable with a brand new one, just out of the packet, it's not permissions or WINS - I just don't know what it could be. [16:19] Should I attempt a crossover cable rather than a hub? [16:19] hcfd, have you tried connecting a machine directly to the NAS to see if that eliminates your issues? [16:19] Could that really be the issue? [16:19] heh [16:20] hubs are a horrible idea for anything [16:20] Haven't tried as yet [16:20] or at least anything reliable =) [16:20] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [16:20] I'm stuck until my next pay-cheque.. and I've been using the hub since before I got the NAS.. so.. mayhaps [16:20] spiki (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] Even so, there are only 3 things active on the hub: NAS, a connection to a switch to obtain DSL router access, and this workstation. [16:21] I wouldn't have thought that 3 devices would be this big a deal =) [16:22] with as many control packets as the SMB protocol sends, it kind of destroys hubs =) [16:22] uva (i=bono@118-160-171-218.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:23] evo- (n=evo@p4FD29087.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Hmm. I never really groked that fact. I have wireshark running in the background to see what's going on, and yeah, I suppose it is 'busy'. Hadn't really cottoned onto the implications =) [16:24] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[16:46] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.104.255) joined ##slackware. [16:47] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [16:48] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [16:48] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:50] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] funny reading user coments about win7 [16:51] Action: slackytude tried win 7 today [16:51] slackytude: impressions ? [16:52] better than vista :D [16:52] seriously, tho, I kinda liked it. wouldnt buy it and its still annoying but it's ok [16:53] of course, we ran it in a vmware session with 1,5gigs of ram and it was sluggish like hell [16:53] probably because it needed better 3d stuff [16:54] hmm ... that will make a difference - most of my usage scenarios for Windows involve running it in a VM, so that impacts my perspective [16:54] I turned all the visual crap off in vista, runs decent in a VM after that [16:54] its unusuable within a vm. we could have added more ram but Im pretty sure there is no joy unless you get direct3d stuff [16:55] that might be an option [16:55] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] although you miss out on most of its fancy UI stuff, like desktop peek [16:55] which kinda makes sense on a os with a single desktop [16:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:56] meh. when I'm at work I don't want cpu or memory used for eye candy. I want my work done fast so I can take a longer lunch :D [16:56] still, I suppose it matters little, because once the corporate desktop services get done "customizing" the dist for my/your respective company "standards", even "fast" installs will be bogged down by crap anyway [16:56] fuzzbawl, got time for one more head-scratcher? For whatever reason I seem to be able to access my mp3s via smb://, but I get an error cding to the dir the share is mounted on: "cd: /mnt/nasmedia/video/TV Shows: Input/output error" [16:56] hcfd, that would be a hard disk or file system error [16:56] rk4n3, probably [16:57] fuzzbawl, mount -a gives no errors? [16:57] mount -a only gives errors if the filesystem is flagged as erroneous [16:57] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] ah [16:57] if it's not your boot partition, I would unmount it and run the appropriate fsck [16:57] But mp3s are playing fine from that filesystem [16:58] hcfd, could be a bad block somewhere on the disk [16:58] Okay, thanks. [16:58] which could also explain your delays. if it's hitting a bad block that needs re-read constantly it will slow down various random things [16:59] Definitely a possibility. They're new disks, a week old. [16:59] Haven't been fsck'd since formatting. [16:59] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.35) left irc: "Bye Bye" [17:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:02] dguitar (n=dguitar@cpe-72-224-221-147.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [17:03] slackytude: I installed win7 today, as well [17:03] to hd and in a vm [17:04] liked it? [17:04] Dell Latitude D630/Intel C2D T7250 @ 2GHz/2GB RAM [17:05] yeah, install was simple [17:05] I was just thinking about the way it handles apps i taskbar. Im not sure I like the way the mix already running apps with not running apps on taskbar... [17:05] ran smoothly? [17:05] Taskbar looks more like KDE than before :) [17:05] so far [17:06] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.202.23) left irc: Success [17:06] ran the little Windows Experience Index tool, came back 3.0 [17:06] hard disk [17:06] hm, gonna do that tomorrow [17:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:06] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] didnt strike me as simliar to kde bt then, Im an xfce man [17:07] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@2607:f340:c0de:0:21d:60ff:fe05:727d) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] laptop, what ya gonna do? Seagate 7200.2 200GB SATA. That's as good as I'm gonna get in a laptop. no raid or faster drives :/ [17:08] OTOH, VM sucks so far [17:09] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [17:09] of course, I tried VMware 5.5 (not the latest) and my phys box only has 2GB RAM total [17:09] just an VM Im afraid. dont think we will sacrifice any real machines to it yet :D [17:10] not sure about the hardware specs on the server, actually. Im the software dude, not the dell guy [17:10] detected 1280x800 OOTB [17:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:12] my company stuck with XP and skipped Vista. I'm pretty sure they'll go to Win7 within a couple of years. [17:12] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] lee555J5, better leave it with xp [17:12] not my call [17:12] Action: slackytude shrugs [17:12] lee555J5, sure [17:12] my chef likes win7 because the people will have to buy updates [17:13] we are still on xp [17:13] slackytude, you buy updates? [17:13] at my company, I'm an end user. Excuse me...luser. :) [17:13] no, we sell the [17:13] *them [17:13] evo- (n=evo@p4FD29087.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [17:13] slackytude, where do you work? [17:14] you bought 6.95 and your PC downloads service pack 3? though luck, need upgrade, very cheap [17:14] LnxSlck_, some small software house in germany [17:14] slackytude, ok [17:15] and when I installed out stuff in win7, there was the message again, "no license for this OS" [17:15] s/out/our [17:15] sure [17:15] sure? [17:16] Baz_ (n=baz@c-67-160-118-87.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:16] slackytude, isn't win7 still beta? [17:16] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) joined ##slackware. [17:17] win7 = kde [17:17] yes, but thats not the point. the point is, that our programmer add a routine to detect os changes, so we can sell licenses or upgrades. the version we sold to run on XP SP2 wont run in SP3. by design [17:19] no, kde4 = osx [17:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] LnxSlck_: first beta publicly available. Last I heard, final release 4qtr this year/1qtr next year. Beta license good through 8/1/2009 [17:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:20] lee555J5, k [17:20] lee555J5, not really interested in trying that out [17:21] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left ##slackware. [17:21] LnxSlck_: MS opened it Fri 1/9 [17:21] lee555J5, yes i read it [17:21] LnxSlck_: yeah, but my company will use and I support friends/family and it's free, so I might as well learn it :) [17:22] lee555J5, well, it's free for a while ;) [17:22] Action: slackytude doesnt own a computer that could run vista or win7 [17:23] and wont buy one for that [17:23] and all the family is on slack [17:23] cept my sisters wife [17:23] ?? [17:23] slackytude, i do run vista on my laptop [17:23] slackytude, but i use slackware in it.. [17:23] slackytude, i only have it, because it came with it [17:24] heh [17:24] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:24] I dont buy new comps. Im a cheap bastard I guess, but Ive deceided to buy only second hand. the way moores law is going, I dont miss out on much [17:25] shiat slackware is way too addicting you learn and feel liek you want to learn more and i feel like i'm dying sitting here for hrs and hrs [17:26] gnubien (n=e@230.255.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:26] KidpunkX, welcome, brother [17:26] slackytude: I do the same with game consoles: I just bought an Atari 2600. :) [17:26] okibisan (n=okibisan@68-184-167-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:26] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.47.155) joined ##slackware. [17:26] hey guys, if i want to install/configure an IDS with snort+base should i do it in the gateway or doesnt it matter? [17:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] lee555J5, yeah, retro game consoles are fun :D [17:27] jmoncayo, base? [17:27] jmoncayo: gateway usually [17:28] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:28] Dominian: will it work if its only in the network? [17:28] joystick + one red button, oh and an ergonomically designed corner guaranteed to bruise and cramp your hand :) [17:28] jmoncayo: You would have to write custom rules within your router to force outbound 80 to go through your proxy if you do it that way [17:29] Nick change: mina86 -> mina86|aw [17:29] Dominian: oki thanks =] [17:31] jmoncayo (n=Administ@190.152.47.155) left irc: "leaving" [17:32] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] stef_204 (n=stef@adsl-89-217-40-37.adslplus.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:36] lee555J5, why buy play it on linux atari 2600 [17:37] lol [17:37] KidpunkX: it wasn't much, and I'd forgotten about that. 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(on my laptop, the wired interface is rarely connected to anything at boot time) [18:40] hi everybody [18:41] I activated ip_forward on this notebook, it's connected to internet by UMTS modem, an to an accesspoint by eth0 [18:41] hackedhead: edit the rc.inet.conf file so it doesn't poll dhcpd [18:42] but I haven't internet from another noteb by wifi [18:42] hackedhead: comment USE_DHCP in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [18:42] hackedhead: edit eth0's entry in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf, change its dhcpcd option [18:42] can anybody help me? [18:42] confrey: . /etc/rc.d/rc.ipforward stop [18:43] then "chmod a-x /etc/rc.d/rc.ipforward" [18:44] alisonken1: it's already set with 755 [18:44] thanks all [18:45] confrey: that's right - it's executable. tell it to be NOT executable by "chmod a-x" a=all permissions, -x=not executable. that will keep ipforward from being enabled [18:46] oh [18:46] I'll do it fast [18:46] confrey: but first, run "/etc/rc.d/rc.ipforward stop" to turn off ipforward for the current setup [18:47] ok [18:48] then must I restart ip_forward? [18:48] only if you want to have ip forwarding enabled between different interfaces on that machine [18:49] unless you're creating a router, you don't need ipforward anyway [18:50] I use this pc for internet connection, and this pc must give internet to other two one by wifi [18:50] so I want ip_forwarding [18:50] what can I do? [18:51] Anybody using lua from SBo? [18:51] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-93-197-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] confrey: are you trying to make a router between your UMTS modem and your wireless AP? [18:52] yes, perfect [18:52] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151024200.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:52] if you're routing, then you would need it. if you're bridging, then you don't need it. but it sounds like you're trying to get into a little more advanced setup than normal [18:53] I'm connected with an eeepc to this pc by ssh, so wireless connection works well, but I can't use ip_forwarding [18:54] sorry, but I don't understand very well the difference between routing and bridging... [18:54] jkwood, I am for 12.1 (built it for 12.2 but somethings not right on my box w.r.t. building it) [18:54] confrey: I take it your'e trying to get your eeepc onto the internet through your UMTS modem through your pc? [18:55] I'm on internet by UMTS connection, eth0 is configured as 192.168.1.251, ap is 192.168.1.254, client wireless is 192.168.1.200, but client doesn't surf internet [18:55] Old_Fogie: Could you pastebin the package contents? [18:55] and I don't know where to work [18:56] /var/log/packages/lua* [18:56] ngp667 (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] jkwood, http://pastebin.com/d228a4af8 (note I made a desktop icon for it, and I gzip /usr/doc/prgnam-version in all my builds) [18:57] confrey: you need a basic understanding of network protocols to help. basically, routing is when you have 2 different networks using different subnets (i.e., eth0 has IP 192.168.1.x and eth1 has IP 192.168.3.x) [18:57] jkwood, those two features I added are not typical for SBo's so keep in mind. [18:57] Well, that all appears to be fine. [18:57] ah [18:58] confrey: bridging is when you want both eth0 and eth1 to become (basically) just like a switch [18:58] Crap. It's gotta be the app. [18:58] alisonken1: ok, I have a subnet for ppp and another for local net, hen what can I do? [18:58] jkwood, xmoto per chance? [18:59] Hero of Allacrost, actually. [18:59] jkwood, that's the app I'm having issue's with , tho it ?could? be my 'ode' build (but Abiword is fine) so dunno. [18:59] alisonken1: bridging is not for me... I need a router [18:59] foureyes has not been in here for a few days, i wonder if he got washed away in those floods [18:59] confrey: in that case, you want to route from your ethernet to your ppp interface. just make sure that your local net is not on the same subnet as your ppp connection, then you can use ipforward [19:00] you also have to set some rules in your pc firewall to tell it to fake all output originating from the local subnet that goes out to the ppp interface [19:00] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.0.116) joined ##slackware. [19:00] confrey: at that point, you need to look at NAT firewall rules [19:02] alisonken1: do I need a firewall? I remember, some years ago, I did it with two command lines in debian, without firewall... I need a simple solution, for my home, not a security solution [19:03] confrey: the firewall is actually the iptables rules to tell your pc how to handle packets that go between the ppp interface and the eth0 interface (like between the internet and your eeepc via your pc) [19:03] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:03] confrey: firewall is more than just security as well [19:03] and how can I set it? [19:06] confrey, there's some nice examples at slackwiki. alienBOB has a nice iptables/firewall script generator at his site. SBo has buildscripts for some gui iptables/firewall apps. [19:07] leoGoncalves (n=leosgdar@201-34-215-158.gnace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:07] leoGoncalves (n=leosgdar@201-34-215-158.gnace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("[CyberScript]"). [19:07] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [19:07] new pidgin (doesnt ?seem? to fix security matters) http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=235&release_id=653293 [19:11] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-151-123.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Old_Fogie, hi man, i see a lot of firewall apps, what's the best? [19:12] in your opinion of course [19:13] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] IntangibleLiquid, not sure how to answer that really, I mean learning / writing is best, but depends on the needs/useage as second choice I think. [19:14] alife (n=alife@75-167-220-183.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.52.239) joined ##slackware. [19:15] IntangibleLiquid, a person hooked straight to the net , like one pc behind a cable modem, or dsl modem and gui as the only solution for a newcomer, I find the guarddog is good. [19:15] Old_Fogie, thanks. Will try that first. But eventually wanna move on to iptables :) [19:16] IntangibleLiquid, yeah I did the same thing when first came to linux. Used guarddog til' I had some time to learn iptables. [19:16] question for my fellow paranoids ; will export http_proxy= [19:16] put everything behind a proxy [19:16] no [19:16] or just 80 [19:17] IntangibleLiquid, I think once you get past the one pc, in a lan situation , with proxy servers or other funky stuff, the gui apps are useless/ flawed. [19:17] that one im assuming. [19:17] would i be right nachox? [19:17] just http, and for those apps that actually use that environmental variable, not everything does [19:17] IntangibleLiquid, which in my opinion, the free software community is truly lacking a 'zonealarm' clone for new comers in mixed environment [19:18] Old_Fogie, yeb, there are two things i wanna do right now. I'm behind a D-link wireless router, with my sister on a Windows laptop. So 1 is samba, 2 is firewalling [19:18] right, coolio, needed that confirmed, thanks nacho :) [19:18] Old_Fogie, i've used Firestarter and it's quite user friendly, i'm only concerned about security as I'm a quite heavy torrent user [19:19] IntangibleLiquid, yes that you can do in Guarddog, you set up 'zones' in there. Remember tho, it put's it's firewall script in /etc so you'll probably want to do something like 'ln -s /etc/rc.firewall /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall' ; remember slackware's inititalization scripts look for a file called /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall on bootup, and if found will start it automatically. I cant for the life of me understand why guarddog puts th [19:19] eir script in /etc but oh well. [19:20] if you google search you can find some commands to put in to rc.local that will invoke iptables which is already the best and only firewall there is [19:20] yhanks for help, I'll continue tomorrow.... [19:20] pfsense is cool as a firewall/router, but it's not linux [19:20] bye [19:20] confrey (n=dario@94.162.68.248) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [19:21] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:21] nachox, i think it's a linux distro? [19:21] Old_Fogie, the instructions on SBo are pretty straight forward [19:21] if it's got "pf" in the name, it's probably not a linux distro :p [19:21] i thought pfsense was bsd :/ [19:22] pf is the BSD packet filter [19:22] it is not linux, it's freebsd based [19:22] bono (i=bono@118-160-164-92.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] ok. freebsd-based :) [19:22] pf is very nice [19:22] ;) [19:23] pfSense is based on FreeBSD. [19:23] but that requires a dedicated pc [19:23] Much in the same way that SLAX is based on Slackware. [19:23] seems like an overkill for a small home lan [19:23] ccfreak2k, oh well [19:24] ccfreak2k@icarus-camino:~$ cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp [19:24] -bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy [19:24] :( [19:24] lsof ? [19:25] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Nothing [19:25] . [19:25] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:26] ccfreak2k, lsof -n|grep snd [19:26] kill those [19:26] Firefox. :| [19:27] ahh, its adobe flash [19:27] close that tab [19:28] thats one of the reasons i prefer gnash, it does not run in the FF pid space and can be killed without affecting FF [19:28] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:29] kmix too unfortunately. [19:29] i think there was a car named gnash, ever hear of a gnash rambler? :D [19:29] Pig_Pen, seems more like "gnash" describes what you're doing while you use it. [19:29] ccfreak2k, that is actually the reason i originally stopped using kde [19:29] souljas (n=tony@nc-76-5-186-255.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] though it was esd back then [19:30] that's because gnash doesn't support any flash sites :) [19:30] is gnash getting mature? runs most websites like youtube & etc? [19:30] it works on youtube [19:30] bono (i=bono@118-160-164-92.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:30] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:31] it worked on about 1/4 of the youtube sites I tried [19:31] Well, catting /dev/random to /dev/dsp or /dev/audio is silent. :( [19:31] hmm? what dependencies would gnash have on a stock slackware install? [19:31] youtube is fine...other sites...well pretend you have flashblock [19:31] thrice`, there is only one youtube [19:31] i'm aware. I meant that about 1/2-3/4 of the time, the browser crashed [19:31] youtube does let other websites embed their videos [19:32] thrice`, gnash does not crash the browser, ever [19:32] ok [19:32] it does not run in the browser, so when it does crash you just get a black box in FF [19:34] guitarman4 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:35] the hardest lockup i ever had from any plugin or crappy javascript from a website was cured with a CTRL + ALT Backspace (& restart X) [19:36] bono (i=bono@118-168-237-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] but that happens rarely since i run NoScript in firefox [19:37] well i have adobe because those people run the plugin the FF, why can't to fork a new process like every other plugin? [19:37] s/have/hate/ [19:37] s/the/in/ [19:37] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:38] s/to/it/ [19:38] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.28.145.120) joined ##slackware. [19:38] yeah, i do not use any plugins in firefox, i prefer to lock firefox down with noscript and adblock plus, i do have lots of plugins in seamonkey and only use seamonkey on trusted websites [19:38] You know, if I run cat /dev/kmem > /dev/dsp through a lowpass filter, it would make good white noise for sleeping. [19:39] a lowpass filter sounds like something for HF radio [19:39] the state of audio in linux is sad... [19:40] Nick change: Packeteer -> packeteer [19:40] Pig_Pen: rf - not hf :) but close enough [19:40] alisonken1, hf may be right [19:40] hf==high frequency [19:40] \0/ [19:41] you have hf,vhf,uhf [19:41] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) joined ##slackware. [19:41] edman007: rf = = radio frequency. gotta listen to that SETI music :) [19:41] HF covers 1.800 mhz to 30 mhz [19:41] Pig_Pen, nah, those kinds of filters are in acoustics too. [19:41] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [19:42] edman007: my boss does rf, and we get into some interesting discussion wrt rf and digital comms as well as audio comms [19:42] Hmm. [19:42] ah, i see i bet a graphics equalizer has some good filtering features, audio did not cross my mind [19:42] /dev/random is silent, but /dev/urandom yields noise. [19:43] Don't forget ehf and shf. [19:43] Pig_Pen, well yes. Turn off the highs and mids and presto, instant lowpass. [19:43] ccfreak2k: there have been some articles on /dev/random v. /dev/urandom - /dev/random waits for entropy, but /dev/urandom makes it's own entropy as needed [19:43] yup :D [19:43] ccfreak2k, /dev/random is not silent, its just a very low data rate, you should get a few pops with it (because it can run out of random data and block) [19:43] (to paraphrase) [19:45] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] alisonken1, it does not make entropy, the diff is random needs a specific level of entropy to read from, urandom will allow a read at any level of entropy, they share the same pool and reading from either decreases the entropy of the pool [19:45] hi all, what's the verdict on Absolute linux? read an article on distrowatch today [19:45] its not slackware [19:45] edman007, ++ [19:45] edman007: as noted - "to paraphrase" :) [19:46] edman007: I'm not that good with entropy, so I just paraphrase to not that /dev/random blocks, but /dev/urandom doesn't [19:46] s/not/note/ [19:46] absolute is a slackware child/fork that was made user friendly for those not adapt at installing & configuring an OS like slackware (slackware for dummies :D [19:47] Pig_Pen, child!=parent [19:47] not to mention that absolute seems to not host the source at all. [19:48] they must be using the BT playbook [19:48] thx guys [19:48] well, absolute's installer is text mode but very very simplified so those not able to follow a real slackware installer can get it installed and running [19:49] i am neutral, i dont hate or love absolute, i tried it for ten minutes and wiped it off just to see what it is all about [19:50] holdmypocket (n=holdmypo@autodiscover.cusonet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:51] what's the deal slackpkg vs slapt-get? i've been googling and there's no definite answer what 's the best [19:52] personally i prefer the "real thing" theres no slackware like Slackware! [19:52] slackpkg for updating [19:52] whats now included in slackware? 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[20:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:02] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left irc: Client Quit [20:03] bono (i=bono@118-168-237-24.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:03] bono (i=bono@118-168-237-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-151-123.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHH!" [20:06] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) left irc: "Leaving" [20:08] tntslack (n=will@adsl53-116.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:08] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] LastPride (n=andrekgl@213.22.171.187) joined ##slackware. [20:08] How do I setup samba to startup during the bootup? Is there a script like netconfig or fontconfig for samba? [20:08] LastPride (n=andrekgl@213.22.171.187) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:09] LastPride (n=andrekgl@213.22.171.187) joined ##slackware. [20:09] LastPride (n=andrekgl@213.22.171.187) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:09] isnt there an rc.samba? [20:10] LastPride (n=andrekgl@213.22.171.187) joined ##slackware. [20:10] nachox: yes - but you still have to work the /etc/samba/smb.conf file [20:15] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:16] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:18] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) joined ##slackware. [20:19] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [20:19] alisonken1: Or use the webconfig for it [20:20] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [20:21] paul424 (n=chatzill@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:22] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [20:23] alisonken1indeed [20:23] w000t [20:23] FriedBob: just a difference of _how_ :() [20:24] alisonken1: nachox : I am working on the smb.conf now. [20:24] poor soul [20:24] ok - time for me to head home [20:24] dtanner_xchat (n=dtanner@adsl-76-233-37-58.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] I am also trying to install flash on my Slackware. The installation program prompts me: "Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla" [20:25] I enter /usr/lib/mozilla and it is not taking it. [20:25] Where is the installation path for mozilla on Slackware? [20:25] kleanchap: get the slackbuild from slackbuilds.org [20:26] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:26] kleanchap: manually put it here if the installer is givin ya crap -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [20:26] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleeeeeeeep" [20:27] hmm lets see what the fuss is about this xchat I hear so much about [20:28] better than mirc already [20:28] dinner is ready TBONE and salad [20:28] Share? [20:28] sure [20:28] \o/ [20:28] bbs [20:28] dtanner: Thnx. Is it ldconfig we need to run to reload the libraries? [20:29] I'll split it with you. You can have the salad, and I'll take care of the tbone. [20:29] ha i bet you would [20:29] im out , dinner is calling [20:29] :P [20:31] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) left irc: "Leaving" [20:35] Do you need to have Samba server running for accessing a Windows drive from Linux? [20:36] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:37] no [20:38] mount -t cifs -o username=XXX,password=XXX //1.2.3.4/SHARE /mnt/share [20:38] ... rocwiki... [20:38] AHHH [20:38] Wrong channel [20:40] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.0.116) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:40] nullboy: Thnx [20:40] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:41] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.32.79) joined ##slackware. [20:41] firefox is so stupid, if you `killall java_vm` the browser quits [20:43] wished there was more diversity among webkit browsers [20:44] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.32.79) left irc: Client Quit [20:45] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:45] hba (n=hba@189.188.144.52) joined ##slackware. [20:47] If I open too many firefox session my OS quits [20:47] your OS quits? [20:47] Ya cpu goes to 100 percent and locks up [20:47] there is dillo web browser, and there is trusty old links or lynx [20:47] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:47] nothxbai [20:48] I ran midori for a while but search function is broken I have to manually go to google.com to search and the home doesn't work so I actually have to type it in [20:48] Weird stuff with midori [20:49] I found konquorer to be the most robust, but I couldn't get java to work [20:49] nixfreak (n=ice9@mn-10k-dhcp1-5913.dsl.hickorytech.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] i use opera a lot, but their socket threading sucks [20:49] hi say where are the packages located at [20:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] /var/? [20:50] nixfreak: /var/log/packages/ [20:50] firefox is like a little donkey = it can do a little work but can not handle a heavy load, seamonkey is like an old mule sturdy and not quite a work horse but usually does the job [20:51] Oh ya I forgot about seamonkey It works good but I couldn't get java to work in it either [20:51] opera was the first to come up with 'delete private data' :) [20:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:51] thx [20:53] DarkHelmut (n=mbrennek@playground.unspunproductions.com) left irc: "changing servers" [20:53] opera was bought by google about 1 year ago iirc [20:53] hitest (n=chatzill@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] too many crashes with opera [20:54] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] Milencho (n=milencho@87-126-105-251.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [20:54] why is google tinkering with chrome when they can open source opera and let an army of developers improve it free [20:54] Milencho (n=milencho@87-126-105-251.btc-net.bg) left ##slackware. [20:54] is procmail better then postfix ? [20:54] Milencho (n=milencho@87-126-105-251.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [20:54] Milencho (n=milencho@87-126-105-251.btc-net.bg) left ##slackware. [20:54] FLAMEWAR!! [20:55] thats cool, i am wearing asbestos underwear [20:55] and a tinfoil hat :D [20:57] Pig_Pen, google didn't buy opera [20:57] ?? [20:57] is gnubien spreading mis-information? gnubien you are such a naughty boy [20:58] someone bought opera about 1 year ago iirc, maybe it was ebay [20:58] aliase (n=aliase@206-248-128-214.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] maybe Sun will buy opera for eleventy billion dollars :D [20:59] lol opera wil be able to buy soon pretty soon [20:59] Ignacio_ (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.228) joined ##slackware. [20:59] soon = sun [20:59] my jaw dropped when i heard of the price Sun paid for MySQL [20:59] links -graphical works good but is limited [21:00] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeiz147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:00] when they could have forked it for free [21:00] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeja187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:01] what did Sun pay for VirtualBox? [21:01] ebay paid about 3 billion for skype iirc [21:02] iirc correctly, I don't trust what you say gnubien [21:02] i wish i was rich, instead of just good looking ;) [21:03] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-71-203.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:04] Pig_Pen, they did not just buy the code, they bought the community around it [21:04] test34: good, doubt everyone [21:04] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.52.239) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:04] Nick change: Ignacio_ -> nachox [21:05] who gets to walk away with all that money? [21:05] mysql owners [21:05] it was not a publicly traded company [21:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [21:06] if i was an evil genius code monkey i would be working 24/7 to build something some big corporate types would want to buy, then i would sell it and retire [21:08] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left ##slackware. [21:09] baradude (n=baradude@58.137.93.218) joined ##slackware. [21:09] you dont need to be evil... [21:09] no... but it helps [21:10] souljas (n=tony@nc-76-5-186-255.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:10] limpio (n=macondo@200.75.240.204) left irc: "Leaving" [21:11] superGear (i=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [21:14] i am not really evil, i work for a living (manual labor) [21:15] scott\ (n=scott@5ac4a14b.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. 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[21:42] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:42] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.228) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] Vic1ous (n=Vic1ous@99.194.225.218) left irc: Client Quit [21:47] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) joined ##slackware. [21:49] Akuma3 (n=kvirc@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:51] spook_ (n=spook@2002:ca59:a790:0:0:0:0:1) joined ##slackware. [21:51] how cool is this [21:51] native IPv6? [21:51] or tunnel broker? [21:51] sort of [21:51] tunnel broker [21:51] using 6to4 and the special anycast address [21:52] hah [21:52] easier to get a tunel broker ;) [21:52] its working just fine for me :P [21:52] is it free? [21:52] it is for me. [21:52] with a tunel broker.. you get rDNS for your ipv6 subnet [21:52] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] nullboy: tunnel brokers are free... I use tunnelbroker.net [21:52] 6to4.nro.net [21:53] i remember taking the cisco course set 4 years ago and they were saying then how soon we all must support ipv6 [21:53] aye [21:54] its going to come to an end very quickly lol [21:54] well i'm prepared :P [21:55] i'm not [21:55] OMGZ [21:56] What's this IPV6 thing? [21:56] lol. [21:56] 2002:ca59:a790:0:0:0:0:1 [21:56] thats ipv6 [21:56] Looks geek to me. [21:57] FriedBob: 25.52.16.1 can be represented in 32bits, which is the address space of ipv4 [21:57] slackadelic.com has IPv6 address 2001:470:1f07:3f4::1 [21:57] ;) [21:57] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] 2002:ca59:a790:0:0:0:0:1 can be represented in 128bits, which is the address space of ipv6 [21:58] 4.1 billion addresses versus a trillion trillion trillion [21:58] FriedBob: put it this way.. when everything goes native ipv6.. every molecule in the universe can have their own /64 subnet [21:58] spook_: I'm quite aware of what IPV6 is [21:58] doh [21:58] Dominian: My client stripped the sarcasm tags again, sorry [21:59] haha [21:59] damn it [21:59] Dominian: isnt it only like, every cm^2 of the surface of earth gets a /64 subnet [21:59] http://pastebin.com/m23188613 [21:59] spook_: no.. it would be every molecule in the universe [21:59] Except for one. [21:59] a /48 subnet? [22:00] The 128 bits of IPv6 addresses mean the size of the IPv6 address space is, quite literally, astronomical; like the numbers that describe the number of stars in a galaxy or the distance to the furthest pulsars, the number of addresses that can be supported in IPv6 is mind-boggling. See Figure 94 for an idea of what I mean by astronomical. [22:00] http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPv6AddressSizeandAddressSpace-2.htm [22:00] 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 [22:00] hows that for a supernet [22:01] Key Concept: The IPv6 address space is really, really big. J [22:01] spmd (n=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "reboot" [22:02] Number of IP Addresses in a IPv6 /64 prefix, the typical space a home user gets: 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 [22:02] Akuma (n=kvirc@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [22:02] i get a /48 through 4to6 [22:03] 6to4 rather [22:03] I have no need for a /48 [22:03] Avelino (n=Avelino@189-46-71-203.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [22:03] neither do i, but because i have a static ip i get a free ipv6 /48 [22:03] So, what would I need to do start using IPV6? [22:04] FriedBob: got ipv4? [22:04] I'm here, aren't I? [22:04] hahaha [22:04] use 6to4 or a tunnel broker [22:04] Whatever happened to IPV5? [22:04] Dominian will be very loud about suggesting you use a tunnel broker [22:04] http://pastebin.com/m18ac3f78 heres a good email i was sent [22:05] FriedBob: it was an aborted featus [22:05] FriedBob: http://tunnelbroker.net/ [22:05] the only bad thing about tunnel broker is relying on someone else. [22:05] Dominian and spook: Pros and cons of both options in a few sentences please. [22:05] with the tunnelbroker you get a /64 and can request a /48 as well [22:05] if you have an ASN you can do BGP [22:05] ASN? BGP? [22:06] Dominian: is that a /64 out of their allocation? [22:06] spook: its a /64 they give you [22:06] that tunnelbroker.net site has some seriously shitty layout issues [22:06] FriedBob: I also have rDNS control of the /64 range that was allocated to me [22:06] Action: spook reads up on tunnel brokers [22:06] nullboy: the layout don't matter.. the functionality does [22:06] i guess it works [22:06] if working means login fields going out into the body of the webpage [22:07] using 6to4.nro.net you can get rdns of your /48 range [22:07] The only drawback to tunnelbroker.net I have.. is that if I want to "switch" tunnel servers.. I lose my /64 allocation and get a new one [22:07] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:08] Dominian: yeah thats exactly my point [22:08] Which.. switching tunnel servers.. I don't do [22:08] so I don't care [22:08] do they offer to allow you using an external allocation? [22:08] and the provider this VPS is hosted on will probably go native ipv6 shortly anyway.. so I'll get rid of my tunnel broker [22:08] as in from arin or someone [22:08] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062156034.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] spook: no you use what they issue [22:09] spook: You get from arin etc when you do native ipv6.. like an ISP or something [22:09] yeah but dont you keep that allocation forever? [22:09] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [22:09] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] my isp thinks ipv6 is too unstable for customer deployment [22:10] dikfores [22:10] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] i rang them up, got handed up the chain because either a) they didnt know what ipv6 was or b) they didnt know anything about their own ipv6 deployment [22:11] finally got to some phb [22:11] my ISP can barely deal with ipv4 at it is [22:11] as [22:11] Unstable? It's a freaking numbering system! [22:12] the really sad thing is, they are quite new to being an isp. they are an awesome company [22:12] supergear (n=supergea@c-24-9-159-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:12] jkwood: Come on now, people can barely keep track of things using base 10. You expect people to keep track of a number like an IPV6 address? [22:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:12] That's why God invented paper. [22:12] PaddyMac (n=Pat@dialup-4.88.72.132.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left ##slackware. [22:12] I don't plan to bother with ipv6 until my ISP flat out tells me I need to upgrade [22:12] for many years they have been doing fiber runs (dark fiber), recently aquired a datacenter, been doing fiber links to the net for businesses [22:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat073.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:13] as amusing as though it is, making funny words in my IP address doesn't really interest me [22:13] hey so raid 5 is faster than raid 10 using the same disks and logical layout [22:13] I don't have any funny works in my IP, and I like it just fine, thanks. [22:13] i just tried them both over the last 24 hour [22:13] LSD`: I've just revoked your geek status. Turn in your ID tomorrow. [22:14] http://[dead:beef:face:ace:bad::a]/ [22:14] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [22:14] nullboy: 'faster' ? [22:14] btw [22:14] I fixed whitespace crap with noobfarm.. [22:14] nullboy: your roflcopter looks goot now [22:14] Dominian: now fix the rest of the crap. [22:15] ;-) [22:15] nullboy: if you're trolling i will slap you so hard [22:15] rworkman: with a rm -rf ? [22:15] sleepy time [22:15] rworkman: you know how you turn up in like every channel i'm in? [22:15] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [22:15] i had a dream that you were in some really random channel with me, like #xbox360 or something [22:15] spook: You sure it's not that you turn up in every channel HE is in? [22:16] dood no i'm serious [22:16] spook: based on the channels you're in *now* - I've been in all of those before you were there :0 [22:16] nullboy: graphs or it didnt happen [22:16] ~74MB/s vs 92MB/s [22:16] rworkman: yeah yeah, semantics [22:16] spook: now, if there are others, it's possible. I was recently in #nvclock and something else briefly [22:16] nullboy: software? hardware? fakeraid? [22:17] rworkman: the point is i had a dream about it [22:17] How sweet. :) [22:17] TMI [22:17] rworkman: what crap!? [22:17] rworkman: You people don't file bug reports? [22:17] spook: just linux raid, mdadm. across an onboard intel ATA and 2 disks on a promise sata150tx2+ [22:17] :) [22:17] spook: as long as we weren't at the Large Hardon Collider. [22:17] Dominian: it was a joke :D [22:17] i'm sure theres some meta point here, like, when ##slackware invades your dreams you have earned your platnium geek card [22:17] :P [22:18] [ in bed ] [22:18] aliase (n=aliase@206-248-128-214.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHH!" [22:18] spook: maybe something was wrong with my first array setup so i'm going to redo that R10 setup and try again [22:18] spook: or one free visit to the shrink of your choice. [22:18] Whaddaya mean, "You people?" [22:18] he means ex-policewomen [22:18] Oops. Wrong keyboard. [22:19] No, you didn't see it. But bash doesn't seem to think "haha" is a valid command. [22:19] Is there a way to just write garbage straight to the sound card? so that it just plays whatever file you feed it? [22:19] nullboy: read and write speeds are different, do up some graphs [22:19] alias haha="rm -rf /" [22:19] /dev/dsp doesn't exist [22:20] hiptobecubic: kill artsd and try again [22:20] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sound [22:20] cat /dev/mouse > /dev/sound [22:20] /dev/sound doesn't exist either [22:20] i have sound though [22:20] artsd bogarts dsp [22:20] i am listening to music [22:20] yeah man turn off all that other stuff [22:20] /dev/audio maybe [22:21] /dev/null [22:21] i mean to say that i can listen to music. there is currently nothing else playing [22:21] aplay works fine [22:21] hiptobecubic: for me to be able to cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp i have to make sure nothing else sound related is running [22:21] danc3: I'll pass on that :) [22:21] nullboy, but do you have /dev/dsp present all the time? [22:22] hiptobecubic: yes [22:22] the node doesn't exist here [22:22] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-01-12 23:21 /dev/dsp [22:22] i can't figure out which thing in /dev/ is my sound. what are the other applications using? [22:22] imagine mental/synaptic control of a linux system, as root [22:22] [ in bed ] [22:22] dude.. [22:22] that would be sweet [22:23] and dangerous [22:23] no more of this typing bullcrap [22:23] i hate typing [22:23] When you say "Man, I can install Slackware in my sleep!" you wouldn't be kidding. [22:23] synaptic is for debianoobs [22:23] getting angry at something and it being rm'ed [22:23] danc3: this is the brain kind of synaptic [22:23] heh [22:23] hiptobecubic: turn off everything else, kmix, artsd, any playing music too [22:23] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] close browsers too [22:24] nullboy, and /dev/dsp should just appear? [22:24] O.o [22:24] ... [22:24] there is no /dev/dsp. i can cat to it right now and it will just make a normal file named dsp with trash in it [22:24] do you have the devs package installed? [22:24] hiptobecubic: ls /var/log/packages | grep devs* [22:25] if it returns nothing.. you don't have the devs package installed [22:25] thena gain not sure if you need taht [22:25] edman007, [22:25] yes i have it devs-2.3.1-noarch-25 [22:25] eh [22:25] and udev [22:25] and dev86 [22:25] er [22:25] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-68-95-72-150.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] weird [22:26] i thought so [22:27] the dsp dev should be in devs package [22:27] sure, but where is it? and how do i have sound with out it? [22:27] no clue [22:27] fabulous [22:29] nix_chix0r, !!! [22:30] edman007, you can get me baby stuff [22:30] yay, what do i get? [22:30] Dominian, this is my /dev http://rafb.net/p/V3YME416.html [22:31] weird [22:31] nix_chix0r, do i get a TV? [22:31] and do you think the baby will like a P4? [22:31] hiptobecubic: you could try reinstalling the devs package [22:31] or would he prefer a AMD 3000+? [22:32] upgradepkg --reinstall devs-whateverthepackageis.tgz [22:32] i got both (the P4 is old and slow though) [22:32] Dominian, hmm [22:32] do i need to be at runlevel 1 for that or something? [22:32] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:32] I wouldn't think so.. tha'ts up to you though [22:32] its crazy, but I rarely drop to init 1 :0 [22:32] no edman007 that's not how it works [22:32] no? [22:33] and edman007 i have a target baby registry [22:34] does that mean i get to help pick out the electronics, and take what i need without paying? [22:36] no [22:36] baby stuff [22:36] Action: edman007 looks [22:36] no TV, nothing [22:37] nix_chix0r, its like all baby stuff, who would want that [22:37] get him a good computer [22:38] edman007, me [22:38] but i thought its for the baby [22:38] hitest (n=chatzill@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.14/2008122618]" [22:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-256250.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] you shouldn't be taking the babys stuff [22:40] thats stealing [22:40] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] heh [22:41] target is crazy, most of that stuff is in store only, wtf is the point of it being online if you can't buy anything [22:41] like 5 out of 30 or so things on there can be bought online [22:42] They figure if you come to the store.. you'll want to buy more things while you are there [22:43] omg [22:43] ? [22:43] edman007, making such a big deal about it [22:43] blarg [22:43] i was in the store when i was scanning stuff [22:43] ahh [22:44] feel free to get anything on my list;p [22:44] do they ship it to you? [22:44] yeap [22:45] ahh [22:48] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-213-61.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.94.226) joined ##slackware. [22:51] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:51] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.120.233) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] godmachine81 (n=g0d@173-16-101-38.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:57] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) joined ##slackware. [22:58] hrm... [22:58] is this what I think it is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707168 [22:58] hi ppl [22:58] The-spiki: hi [22:59] that depends on what you think it is :p [22:59] such things do exist [22:59] argh nevermind [22:59] thought they undoubtedly require a certain driver [22:59] Dominian, looks ok...but that company...eh [22:59] its meant to go with something else [22:59] arktvrvs, why would it need a special driver? [23:00] what usb device DOESNT require a driver? [23:00] mouse and keyboard [23:00] still takes a driver [23:00] http://www.startech.at/item-accessories/SV831DUTP-8-Port-StarView-CAT5-UTP-KVM-Switch.aspx [23:00] but not one that you don't already have [23:00] Looks like it goes with that [23:00] not saying you dont [23:00] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) joined ##slackware. [23:01] but for something to translate cat5 ethernet signals [23:01] would sure require some doing [23:01] RJ2k (n=rj@c-76-18-30-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@173-17-23-1.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] arktvrvs, yea, but that stuff is popular in the server market, i kinda expect the vnc chips for that to be pretty cheap [23:02] RJ2k (n=rj@c-76-18-30-59.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] rworkman: Could I please get you to release openoffice.org as openoffice instead? I don't want it removed by something else looking for openoffice. [23:03] not saying they aren't. [23:03] Shingoshi: err what? [23:04] I heard "I'm' too lazy to pay attention.. can you make it so I don't have to pay attention?" ;) [23:04] GSB calls their openoffice by that name. But Robby uses openoffice.org, So GSB doesn't see that it's already installed. [23:05] er... [23:05] why should he change his build ...? [23:05] so it doesn't inconvienence Shingoshi :P [23:05] Only the name, so that other software which requires openoffice, recognizes that it [23:05] it's already installed. [23:06] then..just rename the damn file [23:06] But.. I still fail to see how that's something he has to correct... [23:06] I'm not going to rename my noobfarm project something else just because someone has a similar name.. they can bite me. [23:07] see what I mean? [23:07] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:07] Is there some reason why you think he can't speak for himself? I addressed my question to him. [23:07] We are letting you know our request is kinda..retarded [23:07] Goodnight. [23:07] and is fixed with a simple rename [23:08] your* [23:08] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: "Insert generic quit message here" [23:09] Shingoshi: actually Openoffice.org is the correct name. *that* is what the project is called. not openoffice. [23:10] Correct [23:10] Trademark issues, and if *they* don't feel like it's proper to call it simply OpenOffice, then I'm not either. [23:11] Gargantua_ (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:11] Even the channel is #OpenOffice.org [23:11] yeah but yeah but yeah but.... couldn't you just do it special for Shingoshi ? [23:12] some people's kids [23:12] gsb also does not use openoffice.org they use Go-OO [23:12] You could have said that to begin with. [23:12] who could have said what? [23:12] that to begin with. [23:12] So the problem is with GSB. [23:13] yep. [23:13] no, the problem is with Shingoshi [23:13] blurr (n=blurr@unaffiliated/blurr) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:14] Now that's just uncalled for. [23:14] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.40) left irc: "leaving" [23:14] Timing buffered disk reads: 278 MB in 3.02 seconds = 92.09 MB/sec [23:16] Timing buffered disk reads: 204 MB in 3.02 seconds = 67.50 MB/sec [23:16] ;( [23:17] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@58.186.250.66) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Xaviertoor_ (n=Xavierto@189-015-141-132.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:18] bah, buffered is no fun, lets do unbuffered [23:18] err cached [23:18] Timing cached reads: 9042 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4524.96 MB/sec [23:18] rofl [23:19] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:19] damn [23:19] Timing cached reads: 3208 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1605.84 MB/sec [23:20] and here I thought this was a pretty decent laptop... [23:20] WTF you got in that thing? [23:20] 3ware 9650 [23:20] lol [23:20] err 9650se [23:20] i know this is inappropriate but a Vista folk seriously needs help. Her harddisk has failed and needs a low level formatting procedure. Is it possible to do low level formatting from the Vista install CD? [23:21] wassat? scsi/raid controller? [23:21] sata... [23:21] IntangibleLiquid: the disk is done for. replace it [23:21] For modern drives, there's really no such creature as a "low level format" [23:22] tis true [23:22] ah, screw kopete [23:22] If you can't create a filesystem on it with a "normal" format operation, then replace it. [23:22] it keeps segfaulting when using MSN [23:22] at least disks are cheap these days [23:22] IntangibleLiquid: these days, disk do automatic background reallocation even before SMART attributes notice an issue [23:23] I just got a 1.5TB disk for $100 [23:23] pidgin will have to do [23:23] pidgin rocks [23:23] I prefered kopete [23:23] bleh [23:23] I like bitlbee [23:23] Action: danc3 avoids things that start with "k" [23:23] she's being really sad when reading you lines :( [23:24] is there a way to not allow regular users to turn off the system? [23:24] Just blame vista ;-) [23:24] HAR! [23:24] ok [23:24] she bought the Gateway laptop from the States and somebody took it back here, doesn't know if they have an authorized warranty service [23:24] dissocia1ive: are they sitting in front of the machine? [23:24] yes [23:24] IntangibleLiquid: maybe she didn't pay her DRM tax on that drive? [23:24] dissocia1ive: then don't prevent it. [23:24] dissocia1ive: cut off all their fingers so they can't press the power button? But then they could still pull the power cord with their teeth... [23:24] tije (n=tije@201.127.244.180) joined ##slackware. [23:24] Not much you can do if the hard drive is failing. [23:24] they can shutdown the system via the power button or via kde [23:24] dissocia1ive: here's what will happen if you don't allow a user to shut down gracefully: they'll pull the plug. [23:25] PiterPun1 (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] If it's a WD, they'll replace it for three years after manufacturing date/date of sale. [23:25] LinuxyErin (n=Erin@c75-111-97-135.amrlcmta01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:25] dissocia1ive: DO NOT prevent users with physical access from shutting down the machine correctly. You *will* regret it. [23:25] Maxtor is 5 years, I think. [23:25] Seagate is 5. [23:25] that's not exactly the point [23:25] I wish I didn't know that. [23:25] Has a Maxtor ever lasted 5 years? [23:25] maybe was better to go out first [23:25] Yep. [23:25] seagate is 5 years but there is lots of fine print [23:25] PiterPun1 (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] PiterPunk (n=punk@c906116f.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Client exiting" [23:26] Action: danc3 wouldn't put a maxtor in any of his machines [23:26] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left ##slackware ("::"). [23:26] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] I'm RMA'ing a WD as we speak. It's very easy to work with. [23:26] FriedBob_ (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [23:26] shutdown the system by software means I mean [23:26] dissocia1ive: well, then you'll have to disable the acpi call to the power button, and don't put the user in the power group [23:26] better [23:26] good evening PiterPunk [23:26] like Ctrl+Alt+delete etc [23:26] PiterPunk: welcome back :) [23:26] dissocia1ive: see /etc/inittab for that one. [23:26] It's a PiterPunk! [23:27] the famous punk! [23:27] wow [23:27] the Pied Piper of Punks! [23:27] rworkman: but none of the users are in the power group [23:27] dissocia1ive: the power button don't needs user in power grou [23:28] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [23:28] PiterPunk: Did I link you to my portslackpkg script? [23:28] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Client Quit [23:29] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [23:31] is anyone using kde 2.5.10 and kopete, and seeing a segfault when it launches now? [23:31] 3.5.10, rather [23:31] I think that I can do that from kde control center [23:31] it has to be related to the new MSN protocol [23:32] jkwood: don't remember [23:32] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) left irc: "Leaving" [23:33] PiterPunk: http://github.com/JoshW/slackpkg-slamd64/tree/master/portslackpkg [23:34] Hi thumbs, I'm using KDE 3.5.10 and Kopete 0.12.7 on Slack 12.2, haven't seen MSN related crashes. [23:34] It does take a while to sign in, though. [23:35] jkwood: good job [23:35] tije: it worked fine on Saturday [23:35] tije: then Sunday, boom [23:35] It makes it easy to see all the changes necessary for use on Slamd64, anyway. [23:36] <_chess_> that looks nice jkwood [23:36] The addition of the ARCH in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf might be something you look into. Everything else is pretty specific. [23:36] Thanks. =D [23:37] thumbs: That happened to me a couple of times when using Slack 12.0. [23:38] thumbs: I now use kmess to log into my MSN account, haven't had any trouble with it. You might want to check it out. [23:39] tije: I am using pidgin, for the time being [23:41] Hey guys/gals, Is anyone using the 2.6.28 kernel in Slackware 12.2? [23:41] me [23:41] I am on my VPS. [23:41] FriedBob (n=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] i did before hard drive crashed [23:43] I'm having a few problems with udev at startup, and I'm wondering if udev requires the "Create deprecated sysfs files" enabled in the kernel (SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2)? [23:44] Ah, have no idea about that. [23:44] xdan779 (n=daniel@s233-75-207.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [23:46] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.108) joined ##slackware. [23:46] tije: no [23:46] Nick change: FriedBob_ -> FriedBob [23:46] pupit (n=p@93.86.2.25) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:46] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "..(cyp): [BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport" [23:47] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@58.186.250.66) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:47] tije: need to know what the "problems" are [23:47] and then blame PiterPunk [23:47] :) [23:48] PiterPunk: Thanks, that helps me isolate the problem. [23:48] Dominian: Just use your ESPN powers and read his mind. [23:48] FriedBob: did that.. all I got back was "segmentation fault" [23:48] Action: Dominian shrugs [23:48] dtanner_xchat (n=dtanner@adsl-76-233-37-58.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] Dominian: I got a core dump when I tried. [23:48] doh [23:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:49] Dominian: Better than "Address not found" [23:49] true [23:49] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:49] Device or file doesn't exist [23:49] Hey, that's what I got? [23:50] Xaviertoor_ (n=Xavierto@189-015-141-132.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:50] =( [23:50] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:51] Sorry for the delayed response, I'm googling and reading the output of dmesg :) [23:51] heh [23:51] good [23:51] at least you have a $clue [23:51] [ in bed ] :) [23:51] haha [23:52] hahaah [23:52] thats what she said [ in bed ] [23:52] :) [23:53] Yes, it's a bunch of udevd-event "No such file or directory" errors. [23:54] what file/directory is it bitching about though? [23:54] I had to manually load the kernel module for my soundcard to get it recognized. [23:54] what kernel ar eyou using... huge or generic? [23:54] sounds to me like you may have done a custom kernel and didn't put enough modules in the initrd ;) [23:55] Vanilla kernel.org with "make oldconfig" from my past customized 2.6.27.10. [23:55] Was there something special you had to do to get mysql running on Slack? [23:55] Nevermind, I found it [23:55] FriedBob: ... [23:55] hehe [23:56] noob [23:56] mysql_install_db had me puzzled for a while. [23:56] hahah :) [23:56] just read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [23:56] duh! [23:56] :) [23:57] Anyway, I think you're right Dominian, but I'm not using initrd. [23:57] hrm [23:57] weird [23:57] well if you're using a customized kernel... from make oldconfig.. [23:57] I wonder if you need to update rc.modules or make additions to rc.modules_local [23:58] The kernels I've built previously don't have so I think I need to do a "make xconfig" and start over again. [23:58] Dominian: I looked in the rc.mysqldb right after I asked. I knew there was something that had the extra steps needed, but oculdn't remember where. [23:59] I'm gonna need some coffee and a donut :P [23:59] /beer [23:59] Spiko (i=Spiko@93-103-56-104.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Tue Jan 13 2009