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[00:17] Ah, inkscape is installed now, that sure took a while. It also needed gsl from SBo. [00:19] has anyone successfully played with the moto java phones as cell modems under slack? [00:19] fire|bird: do you have your sbopkg list? [00:21] AnonymousRednek: for the guide? [00:21] fire|bird: for inkscape [00:22] AnonymousRednek: I didn't save a queue, I needed to build newer versions for it. [00:22] fire|bird: for the guide too, if it exists [00:22] AnonymousRednek: nothing for the guide yet, not complete. [00:24] firefox is upgraded to 3.5!! [00:24] fire|bird: why newer? [00:24] AnonymousRednek: libsigc++ (you should have that from the guide), glibmm 2.18.2, cairomm 1.8.0, pangomm 2.14.1, gtkmm 2.14.3, and gsl. [00:24] Action: TwinReverb sees the updates [00:25] AnonymousRednek: I am on 13rc1, the stuff on SBo doesn't build against 13rc1 [00:25] for inkscape [00:25] fire|bird: i think i got all that except for gsl [00:25] fire|bird: and i might have gsl [00:26] cool. Then you should be all set. Then get inkscape 0.4.7pre1 [00:28] question how do you set a kernel parameter? [00:29] fire|bird: why not 0.46? [00:29] AnonymousRednek: won't build. [00:29] fire|bird: do you have a xbox360? [00:29] fire|bird: won't build on 12.2? [00:30] agentc0re: yeah [00:30] what games do you have? specifically multiplayer? [00:30] AnonymousRednek: I'm on 13rc1, should build fine on 12.2 without any newer versions, just SBo stuff. [00:30] agentc0re: Umm, not much for multiplayer really, my 360 collection is quite small. [00:31] someone buy me a playstation 3 with one of those hard drives so i can run armedslack on it 8-) [00:31] dive: I'm working on flux style buttons now, inkscape just got installed, it took a while. [00:32] fire|bird: what do you have? [00:34] missing libgc...building that now [00:34] agentc0re: NBA Street v3, Guitar Hero World Tour, Just Cause, True Crime Streets of LA, PGR 3 & NBA Live '07 (Hmm, guess I have more multiplayer than I thought. [00:36] Bummer, only have pgr 3.. [00:37] Not a big fan of that game either. [00:37] Do you have Call of duty 4 by chance? [00:37] i does [00:37] no, I had rented it, then beat it, then brought it back. [00:37] y0 antler [00:37] Mr. Porche 911 [00:37] hey fire|bird :) [00:37] hahaha [00:38] antler: I'm on KDE4 atm, what is that considered then, Porche 911 Turbo? :) [00:38] antler: Shit, we should play then. Do you have World at War? [00:38] agentc0re: CoD5? [00:38] agentc0re: we play CoD a lot at work [00:38] thumbs: yeah. [00:38] thumbs: Yeah, i am in the mood to kill some zombies. :D [00:38] agentc0re: that'd be cool, but i uninstalled it right after i finished it [00:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-3-27.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:39] agentc0re: you like the final level, I see. [00:39] agentc0re: yeah, it's world at war [00:39] antler: Oh, on the xbox360. [00:39] agentc0re: ah, windows xp. :P [00:39] thumbs: Didn't play single player one bit. Just multiplayer. [00:39] agentc0re: I had 40+ zombies in the house at some point [00:39] agentc0re: the bonus level is an army of zombies invading your house. [00:40] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-13.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:41] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] fire|bird: hahah [00:42] Well anyone up for killing zombies then? :D [00:42] frullet (n=trent@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:46] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:46] agentc0re: i'm up for warcraft3 dota rumble :D [00:46] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.69.90) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] s/warcraft3/wow/g; [00:47] how do i tell who is connected to my network? [00:47] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] antler: that's a complicated question - there are many levels of answers [00:48] antler: some levels of answers will depend on what kind of hardware you have managing/supporting your network [00:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.19.90) joined ##slackware. [00:49] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:49] rk4n3: hm.... i really just wanted to see a list of ips on the network. is that possible? [00:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:50] antler: maybe - do you have a managed switch ? You can always broadcast-ping your network, but an intruder may simply suppress his own responses ... [00:51] rk4n3: i have one router and two machines on the lan. it's a pretty simple setup [00:51] antler: if you have a managed switch, you should be able to see IP address to port mappings [00:51] phreak_ (n=phreak@pool-151-205-166-62.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:52] antler: OK, so your router - what capabilities does it have ? Like I mentioned, if its a managed switch, you should be able to get alot of detail from its admin console [00:53] DeiBellum (n=root@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:53] rk4n3: ok, i see where you're going, i'll logon to the router and poke around. (was hoping for a small program to run that just tells me :) [00:53] antler :) [00:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [00:56] Risperidon- (n=risperid@189.115.208.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:57] i'd like a program that lists ips on the network and tells me whether each is authorised and extra gravy on my fries [00:57] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "system-reboot" [00:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425752.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] antler: unfortunately, such a program can only guess at certain things based on traffic it sees on the network, much of which can be manipulated if so desired [01:02] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-13.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-108.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:12] Everything in GNOME seems to have some kind of weird delay. [01:13] could be because I pick'n'choose aggressively when I Iinstall [01:13] and hey juice :) [01:14] i dunno it doesn't seem slow to mew [01:14] s/mew/me [01:14] but I prefer gnome also so maybe I am biased [01:14] Another thing that kidn of bugs me, is that... It's not exactly that configurable :P [01:14] Ie: Window decorations [01:15] Some won't let you change their fonts... [01:15] Some control sets won't let you change colors... [01:15] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:15] hmm [01:16] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] that and GNOME Terminal is slow as molasses. [01:17] :P [01:17] Yes, I'm rambling :P [01:17] But, man. I had a better memory of GNOME. [01:17] what version you using ? [01:18] 2.24 [01:18] I think [01:18] latest GWARE [01:19] ic [01:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:19] and you? [01:19] i have 2.24.2 and in vbox 2.26.3 [01:19] I mean, I'm considering moving to Fedora or even Debian. [01:19] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [01:19] But man... [01:19] my memory reminds me how slow and bloated they were compared to slackware. [01:20] i like fedora over ubuntu [01:20] yeah, but how crap is fedora compard to slackware? [01:20] ubuntu is easy to beat :P [01:20] it's like the retard's distribution. [01:20] :P [01:21] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-108.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] i dunno I ran fedora live 11 in a vbox [01:21] seemed so so, didn't really do much with it [01:21] just installed it to see some gnome stuff [01:22] how ti worked and why it wasn't in slackware [01:26] dive: you around? [01:30] hrm. [01:30] anyone know how to find out what is using swap? [01:31] stillborn (n=stillbor@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:31] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.131.232) joined ##slackware. [01:34] rk4n3: ah [01:38] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [01:41] Dominian, hmm [01:41] what are you looking for [01:42] juice: something that shows him what is using swap. [01:44] there is pmap but I don't know if it shows swap usage [01:44] pmap -x pid [01:47] well just curious what is swapping [01:47] its only 4MB into swap on this linode.. but Im curious as to WHAT swapped [01:48] would "shared" in the pmap -x output be swap? ie: mapped: 57660K writeable/private: 2968K shared: 20276K [01:48] ataxic_ (n=ataxic@87.115.104.157) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] actually I got that from -d [01:49] well doing it by id isn't going to work.. [01:49] that's a lot of ids to feed through [01:50] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:50] vmstat? [01:50] welanx2 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] well it shows the swapped mem [01:50] let me see.. [01:51] nathanbw (n=nathan@24-116-115-15.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] bah I'll figure it out later [01:53] Dominian, [01:53] I believe with ps aux the VSZ field is ram + swap usage [01:53] RSS is ram only [01:53] so the difference is in swap [01:57] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [01:59] Action: TwinReverb loves xchat: you can use it as (sort of) a shell while you're using it [02:01] you can put irssi in a screen session, split it, and run a shell right under it ... or along-side it, or whatever [02:01] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] hey rk4n3 [02:01] fire|bird: hey there :) what's up ? [02:02] rk4n3: nothing much, just trying to figure out where quassel (irc client) stores it's config so I can get rid of it. [02:02] you? [02:02] not too much - I'm working on getting an old Motorola wireless card working with a new 802.11N WAP [02:03] ... I'm not too savvy about wireless - have kinda avoided it for the most part :) [02:04] I'm not that wireless savvy either, never used wireless. I haven't really avoided it, just don't have it. :) [02:04] aha - fairly similar [02:08] i in ur wifiz...stealing ur beamz [02:09] Action: fire|bird sets up an anti-antiwire filter. [02:10] hmm this is weird [02:10] using top [02:10] press f [02:10] press p [02:10] hit esc [02:10] then you have a swap field [02:10] but it doesn't match to the the swap used in the totals [02:13] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.233.107) joined ##slackware. [02:13] antiwire, or fire|bird does that usage add up for you? [02:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:19] i just realized when i use flashplayer it uses up over 100 cpu usage [02:19] ie streaming hulu [02:19] yeah that's normal [02:20] (for flash at least) [02:20] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) joined ##slackware. [02:22] i should say firefox process [02:22] but you know what is causing it [02:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:22] juice: I have the same problem frequently - firefox just kills my CPU when anything "flashy" is going on [02:23] hmm [02:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-84.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:23] i found something that says using wmode: “window” [02:23] fixes the issue [02:23] where if it is wmode: “transparent” it causes issues [02:23] juice: one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a particular performance hit with transparency-related stuff ... [02:24] lol [02:24] yeah :) [02:24] heh [02:26] even though in 10 i thought that was fixed [02:26] so it would work flash 10 and ff3 [02:27] http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2200 [02:28] I bet that is why fullscreen has so much tearing [02:29] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) left irc: "leaving" [02:35] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) joined ##slackware. [02:36] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) left irc: Client Quit [02:36] suvir (n=chatzill@ppp-124-122-75-245.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [02:37] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Who should be Pope: Bob or St. Ignucius? [02:43] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [02:46] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:46] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left ##slackware. [02:47] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-133.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:47] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [02:52] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:52] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.233.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:01] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:05] dchmelik: I should be pope. [03:05] anyone else running adesklets(weatherforecast), in either -current, or -current64? [03:05] it'd be one interesting church if that was the case! [03:06] heh, #quassel has a welcome bot, I say hi and tonight it said hola fire|bird :D :P [03:06] Action: dchmelik coronates eviljames [03:07] dchmelik: that's it, you just coronate him without interview or anything? I KNOW he is NOT qualified. :) [03:07] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:09] fire|bird: should I coronate you too? [03:09] h3nry (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:09] h3nry (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Oh man, that would be insane if eviljames and I BOTH were coronated. That church would go to heck in a handbasket. :P [03:11] Action: dchmelik coronates fire|bird [03:11] \o/ [03:11] eviljames: I guess we run things now. :) [03:11] Overclock your computer, run some crazy compiles until it burns out. If the smoke that comes out is white, congratulations, you're the new Pope! [03:11] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-147-84.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [03:11] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] now that's a good test. [03:11] what if the smoke is black? [03:11] sorry sucka [03:11] :( [03:11] try again when I get a new PC? [03:12] yup [03:12] that could be a while, any exceptions? [03:12] Keep buying new ones until you get one that does the white smoke. [03:12] in error handling [03:13] (That's probably not far off of how real popes are chosen.) [03:13] lol, I'll probably go broke before that happens. [03:13] That's the point. We can't have a broke pope! [03:13] zk_ (n=zk@222-152-15-122.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:14] Imagine His Holiness asking the crowds in the square for their spare change! [03:14] suvir (n=chatzill@ppp-124-122-75-245.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:14] haha [03:14] :P [03:14] rob0: not to mention, asking in several different languages. [03:14] anyone tried SBopkg with 64-bit current? [03:14] (Maybe that's why mass is in Latin, who knows what they're really saying?) [03:15] Dave_VK (n=pirch@121.217.165.187) joined ##slackware. [03:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [03:24] happy hacking [03:25] happy trails. :) [03:25] happy birthday :) [03:25] wait, no, that was my grandpa [03:25] sorry [03:25] haha [03:25] hehe, ok... I will be going on a trail at the end of the month.... [03:26] haha, nice. [03:27] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:27] lock and load the ARMedslack [03:29] mornin [03:29] hey dive [03:30] i just had 85 kills and 23 deaths in call of duty 4 [03:30] i'm so good [03:30] i'm always #1 or #2 out of 50 [03:30] that gives me a super long penis [03:30] dive: http://imagebin.org/55641 <---like these buttons? [03:31] yeah nice :-) [03:31] dive: I made that in inkscape and then put it on your ss. [03:31] ok [03:31] can you dcc send them to me? [03:32] dive: yeah, do you want the inkscape svg or a png of it? [03:32] I think a png would be good - takes all day for inkscape to start on here [03:33] ok, sec. [03:33] a large one if possible [03:33] ok [03:33] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.245) joined ##slackware. [03:34] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.173.137) left irc: Success [03:35] fire|bird, actually if you can send the svg too it would be good [03:35] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:35] dive: ok. [03:35] I think I can open it in gqview [03:35] i am looking for jboss to get LAMS (for moodle) working... and i am shocked to see there is no official JBOSS slackbuld available! Is there a reason? or am i looking at the wrong places? [03:36] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.161.215) joined ##slackware. [03:37] dive: there you go. [03:37] _HAKERA_ (n=LAMERIII@77-85-68-164.btc-net.bg) left ##slackware ("AMAN OT TUPI PUTKI!!!"). [03:38] hmm not getting any dcc message [03:38] wait yes [03:38] heh, ok. [03:40] ps2aux (n=Anthony@c-24-11-234-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] dive: Is that png big enough? [03:41] yeah great thanks [03:41] you're welcome [03:42] ps2aux (n=Anthony@c-24-11-234-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [03:42] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [03:43] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:43] brb [03:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:43] My computer is enlightened. [03:43] fire|bird (n=quassel@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:44] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest8791 [03:44] Nick change: Guest8791 -> fire|bird [03:45] My computer also has a Master in it and the Master is within enlightenment. [03:45] S|^ckwareX (n=a@189.187.202.108) left irc: [03:46] boost took a bit to compile [03:46] how do i search if a package is installed in slackware? [03:47] /var/log/packages [03:47] ls /var/log/packages/*name_here* [03:47] thanks dchmelik fire|bird ... i was looking at the wrongplace... /var/cache/packages :-P [03:47] njathan: yw [03:48] The daemons in my computer do not bother the Master. The Master has power over all the daemons. [03:50] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [03:50] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:51] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [03:51] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:52] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [03:53] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:53] wow i hate firefox, it's taking up 710 megs of ram [03:53] pidgin, 450. nice [03:53] I forgot where you see that. [03:53] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:54] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [03:54] i'm in windows ;D [03:54] whaaat?! [03:54] Action: dchmelik breaks windows [03:54] yea [03:55] heh [03:55] ircN:8.00.20080809 - mIRC:6.34 win:Vista uses:48 theme:ircN.nto [03:55] OS: Windows Vista Professional 6.0 SP1 (Build #6001) CPU: Intel Core i7 CPU 940 @, 2.97 GHz, 0KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (1920x1200x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Memory: Used: 1/4096MB Uptime: 1w 6d 12h 28m 1s HD: Free: 1174.59 GB/3390.69 GB Connection: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 1169.46MB Sent: 3919.27MB) [03:55] 12 gigs of ram [03:55] AI-EEE! My realm is razed! [03:57] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:58] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:03] h3nry_ (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) joined ##slackware. [04:03] h3nry (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) left irc: "Leaving" [04:12] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Pacma (n=Spirit@81.184.215.30.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [04:14] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Pacma (n=Spirit@81.184.215.30.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Aiosssssss"). [04:14] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:17] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [04:18] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:18] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [04:18] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [04:19] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:19] guzu (n=guzu@78.96.255.95) joined ##slackware. [04:19] hello all [04:19] how do i check if a package is correctly installed? (libgtkhtml) [04:20] you can check if it exists in /var/log/packages [04:20] but as for 'correct' I am unsure... [04:21] dchmelik, thnx. do you know how can i reinstall a apckage? [04:22] there may be a special way, but I will tell you a way [04:22] removepkg nameofpackage [04:22] installpkg nameofpackage [04:22] ah [04:22] but when you install it you have to be in the directory the txz is in [04:22] (or tgz if you are on an old version) [04:22] 12.0 [04:22] i don't know what are the ext [04:23] tgz [04:23] fire|bird (n=quassel@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [04:23] thank you very much [04:23] you are welcome [04:23] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) joined ##slackware. [04:27] vaibhav (n=dopa@59.92.158.217) joined ##slackware. [04:28] hi, i am trying to set up my wireless using wicd. i have tried to set up according to the configuration but it throws an error: could not contact access point? [04:29] I have not used wicd, but do you have the firmware for your wireless device installed? [04:29] i have got a broadcom card and used their drivers which just got released [04:29] dchmelik, slackpkg reinstall [04:30] thanks, guzu [04:30] i have tried configuring it manullty,didnt help so went about the gui way [04:30] dchmelik, welcome [04:32] sako (n=sako@mail.v2designlab.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:34] vaibhav (n=dopa@59.92.158.217) left irc: "Leaving" [04:37] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [04:41] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:53] I am an operating anti-thetan. [04:53] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.90) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.19.90) left irc: "Leaving" [04:55] i was trying to download a huge 125 MB file (jboss.zip) from sourceforge using wget. after having downloaded 114 MB, there was a power failure. How do i resume the download? just giving the same command created new file - jboss.zip.1 :-( [04:55] can i make the download resume? [04:56] try -C [04:56] -c.. sorry [04:57] hey mkeil ... thanks :-) [04:57] :) [04:58] dchmelik, what? [04:59] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [05:01] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [05:02] guzu: it was just a hard to understand joke [05:02] that's what i thought :) [05:03] rather than 'operating thetan'... a scientology term. [05:05] ah [05:05] i'm not that good on scientology :) [05:07] hmm, my mouse is no longer moving after (maybe broken) updates [05:07] 12.0 [05:08] find the config script and reset it [05:08] /var/log/setup [05:09] /var/log/setup/setup.mouse [05:11] dchmelik, cool! thnx a lot [05:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:17] dchmelik, unfortunately, my dmesg says something like: input: macintosh mouse button emulation as /devices/virtual/input/input0 [05:18] whatever is that [05:18] and the mouse is not working neither in ctext console or x [05:18] well I do not know how that is working [05:18] You got this working on a Mac? [05:19] no, it's an old fujitsu (pentium mmx) notebook [05:21] are you trying to get the mouse to work for console or X? [05:22] dchmelik, in x [05:23] just re-run an X configuration program [05:26] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:29] dchmelik, no use [05:29] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Hello! [05:29] hi [05:30] guzu: sometimes you have to reboot or even shut down and restart [05:31] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] if the hardware is old or if the mouse is not plugged in snugly [05:31] I have to sometimes [05:33] well, it's actually a touchpad [05:33] alps/2 [05:34] I should have realized... well, I am not sure what to do besides shut off and on... I hope someone else knows.... [05:35] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.22.250) joined ##slackware. [05:36] adeodatus (n=rpj@92.85.214.102) joined ##slackware. [05:39] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [05:41] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.161.215) joined ##slackware. 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I want to give them Slackware Linux. They have a 64bit processor (recent Dell with a Pentium Dual Core and Vista). I am very tempted to give them Slackware 64 13.0-rc1 (with recent update) because it is stable [06:00] first, how do i resize that? [06:00] resize what [06:00] NTFS [06:01] hmm , dont know it gparted can do that [06:01] gparted can, i'd have to burn a CD [06:01] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.19.90) joined ##slackware. [06:01] oh good she has a blank one, ok.... [06:01] ntfsresize. [06:01] anyways, let's vote [06:01] works better then gparted. [06:01] fred, is that on slackware's install dvd? [06:02] let's vote: slackware 64 13.0 -rc1 or 12.2 [06:02] no idea. [06:02] ? [06:02] but parted only let me reallocate ~ 10% of my unused space on my ntfs partion, even after defragmentation [06:02] the one included in vista was worse :p [06:03] i'll give her the gparted live cd so that she can fix things herself [06:03] You said stable, so 12.2 [06:03] anyways, slackware 64 13.0 -rc1 (she does not need skype) or slackware 12.2 ? [06:03] Action: fred wonders why he said anything [06:03] 12.2 32 ? [06:04] slackware 64 13.0 -rc1 is stable [06:04] DeeeeP, yes 12.2 is 32 bit [06:04] no, it isn't, hence "-rc1" [06:04] i just installed apache-ant using sbopkg. Now i am supposed to set and env variable $APACHE_ANT, but i am not able to find the directory! Is there a way to find out the directory tree of installed software? [06:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425752.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:04] well it's not considered stable, but it acts stable to me [06:04] so far i have few if any problems with it [06:04] TwinReverb, what's your availability to support her is she needs it ? [06:04] we both work in the same unit [06:04] and are usually on the same shift [06:04] question maintains [06:05] ok , u can [06:05] as i remember from you , u are an advanced slackware user [06:05] well, experienced at least [06:05] so u can solve problems and got availability [06:06] so i say go to current [06:06] by the time 13.0 comes out i can upgradepkg her machine to it and then set her up with a ~/patches directory and rsync.sh so that she can do what she needs to later [06:08] doesnt 13 64 use slackpkg ? [06:09] fred: hey et, and skype are working great on my box. Thanks for all your hard work with compat32 libs [06:09] no problem. [06:09] DeeeeP, i don't know [06:10] chopp: that's 2/3 of the apps I tested with :p [06:10] i never used 64 , thoughted it was a perfect copy of 32 version [06:10] fred: well I really don't need wine so... :P [06:15] fred: I also just tried googleearth, and it worked!!! [06:16] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-155-69.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] Heya,folks...how's everyone doin'? [06:17] DeeeeP: some programs (such as skype and enemy territory) do not have a 64-bit version, so don't "just work" [06:17] also flash , right [06:17] adobe flash [06:17] no [06:18] http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html < while a prerelease, it exists, and works better than the compatibility hacks for runnign the 32-bit version [06:19] ok [06:19] MLanden, I'm fine, how are you? [06:19] fine for the mornin' thanks,plee [06:20] :) [06:23] @#$ k3b [06:23] "will not burn, will waste more than 50% of DVD" [06:23] @# you, BURN IT! >8-( [06:24] Nick change: welanx2 -> welanX [06:24] simplecdrx [06:24] neBu (n=memoryma@86.55.2.6) joined ##slackware. [06:24] heya [06:24] replace k3b now lol [06:24] or try cdw [06:24] or burnbox [06:24] well growisofs won't let me either [06:25] xfburn also works great [06:25] chopp nice adding to my list [06:26] TwinReverb: Is it throwin' out any errors? [06:26] no, just that it won't let me because i will waste too much space [06:26] paissad (n=paissad@137.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:26] lol [06:26] neBu (n=memoryma@86.55.2.6) left irc: Client Quit [06:27] neBu (n=memoryma@86.55.2.6) joined ##slackware. [06:27] I think I can open it in simplecdrx? It fails trying to run config.sub here [06:27] wtf [06:27] mousewheel fail [06:27] weird [06:28] CcSsNET, which version you using? [06:28] 1 sec ill check [06:30] TwinReverb: When you prep up the iso, what is the size of the file as compared to the size of what is in the iso? [06:31] http://ogre.rocky-road.net/cdr.shtml [06:31] doesnt say a version though [06:31] just an address above [06:31] hmm I got it at sf.net [06:31] i copied the binary from austrumi livecd [06:31] Firefox can't find the server at ogre.rocky-road.net. [06:31] 1.8.5 [06:32] ah bin copier [06:32] it only requires libgtk1.2 [06:32] MLanden, 1.4GB [06:32] i don't include source/ with my ISOs [06:32] if I can get the thing to compile I'll put a slackbuild up [06:32] problem solved: single layer DVD [06:32] cool [06:33] TwinReverb: double burn? [06:35] no thanks [06:35] random question. whats the best way to sync directories while telling it to append files regardless [06:35] log related [06:36] rsync? [06:37] hmm ok maybe i said it wrong. ok whats the best way to append a collection of various logs regardless of date/content [06:37] probably a good 30 backup folders [06:37] with the same log files [06:37] cadmium (n=cadmium@58.65.159.166) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:38] i dont care much about date/time order as long as they all append into single files [06:38] i guess u need to use bash script [06:39] hmm i think ur right also :-/ [06:39] Action: CcSsNET adds to todo list :( [06:45] stupid vista [06:45] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.143.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] her vista will not reboot [06:46] so i can't resize it [06:46] grrr [06:46] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:47] not reboot ? [06:47] the hard drive is thrashing about, probably the system scheduler complaining that it can't defrag or whatever [06:50] reinstall both from scratch [06:50] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.219.124) joined ##slackware. [06:50] h3nry (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) joined ##slackware. [06:50] h3nry_ (n=h3nry@unaffiliated/h3nry) left irc: [06:51] CcSsNET, tried to compile about 4 different versions, all fail, given up [06:54] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.161.215) left irc: Client Quit [06:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:04] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Action: TwinReverb hates vista [07:05] dive mind trying something else for me since ur in a compiling mood [07:05] finally got it to fix: reboot into safe mode and then cleanly shut down [07:05] ive been trying to compile whowatch 1.4 for a few months now no luck any environment [07:06] but binary versions of it are very portable [07:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:10] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:10] tooly (n=tooly@e178143147.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [07:11] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:13] good morning hackers :-) [07:13] Mornin',macavity [07:18] so, how is everyone doing? [07:19] Fine for the mornin' thanks and you? [07:19] still waiting for the water to boil... i neve deside if it is a good or bad deay untill i have had two cups of coffee and a shower [07:19] Dave_VK (n=pirch@121.217.165.187) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:20] lol [07:20] if i do, every day is a crap day.. whereas if if i wait, most everyday is good [07:20] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.90) left irc: "Leaving" [07:21] that's a good way to put all things in perspective, I reckon..:D [07:22] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.100) joined ##slackware. [07:23] i just happen to be seriously grumpy in the morning [07:23] macaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavity! I've been told anyterm was better than ajaxterm :) [07:23] and yo everybody :) [07:23] Camarade_Tux: y0! [07:24] Camarade_Tux: ajaxterm does it's job nicely.. no need to worry about anything that is supposedly better :P [07:24] yo MLanden :) [07:24] macavity: faster, more reactive, better on the server-side [07:25] the friend who mentionned ajaxterm periodically killed it actually [07:27] welanx1 (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] ok.. anyterm it is then [07:32] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.219.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:34] :) [07:35] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-151-215.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:35] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-155-57.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:36] take care,folks....BBIAB [07:36] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-155-69.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [07:38] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [07:41] welanX (n=welanx@74-44-56-180.dr01.famt.mn.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:42] ataxic_ (n=ataxic@87.114.154.1.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Nick change: Elektro_{OFF}_ -> Elektro_{-_-}_ [07:47] insanely funny :P [07:47] how little eyes appeard on its main screen [07:51] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.156.100) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [07:56] CcSsNET, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/12.2/whowatch/ [07:58] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.131.232) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [08:01] guax (n=guaxinim@201-2-205-195.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:13] (struct process *) p->priv = z; [08:13] deleted (struct process *) [08:14] hmm the one thing i didnt try [08:14] i was removing the ) [08:14] and adding () [08:14] lol [08:15] so is process not used anywhere else? [08:15] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:18] not like that [08:19] basicall it's like doing 'a b=c' [08:19] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-92-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:19] doesn't wrk [08:19] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-155-69.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] heya,folks...how's everyone? [08:20] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [08:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [08:21] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:24] yea removing that allowed it to compile [08:25] but it seems broken in comparison to the debian binary. weird things are difrent [08:25] and the help menu doesnt load "f1" [08:25] well I've uploaded it [08:26] haven't really looked at it [08:26] for its purpose it works though [08:27] icarus_ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] yea that breaks hotkeys on the f1-f10 [08:28] but i rarely use those anyway [08:28] I'll have a look at it [08:32] ok well bbl [08:32] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [08:34] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.198) left irc: "leaving" [08:34] fenix_br (n=chatzill@201-92-104-5.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [08:34] netfra (n=francesc@host130-35-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:35] hi guys [08:35] dang! i did not win the lottery, i guess working for a living is my destiny [08:35] hi netfra [08:35] Hi RipVanWinkle, great nickname [08:36] he was the ultimate slacker [08:36] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] haha really [08:37] I'm afraid I have destroyed our new webserver [08:38] yowza! are you going to be in trouble? [08:38] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:38] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-43.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:39] no but at least I will look like a stupid [08:40] I accessed the server in ssh to check if mod_rewrite was on [08:40] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:41] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:41] and overwrote httpd.conf !!!! with an empty file with the same name!!!! [08:41] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [08:42] ouch, and no backup to fix it with? [08:42] there is a complete backup I think but I don't control it [08:43] but now everything works fine since I didn't restart the service. but when the service will be restarted... [08:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] Nick change: chipster_ -> chipster [08:44] yeah, it will break when someone or something restarts it [08:46] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:46] netfra: i came a little late to the party.. did this happen with with an official slackware update package? [08:47] jeez I was so tired, I should have stopped, I tried a cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but it wouldnd return anything, so I tried a vi and it gave me a clean file and I closed it with wq instead of just q! [08:48] uhm by then it was already too late [08:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:49] if cat says the file is empty, then it is [08:49] did upgradepkg/slackpkg ask you if you wanted to Overwrite or Keep as it should? [08:50] it would be cool if there was a command to give the running httpd to save its current config to file [08:53] giuppy (n=giuppy@host93-162-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:53] I looked in google and there is such procedure but don't know... [08:54] keep looking, that could save your butt [08:55] haha yes [08:55] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:00] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [09:00] init[1] (n=init[1]@116.68.97.95) joined ##slackware. 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[09:22] smartb0y (n=imymysel@201-66-187-161.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: [09:22] it works great for my rt73usb device.. which is bg only, and has an absolutely crappy range [09:22] Good luck, macavity! I am running windows for the next week or so....on vacation. I miss Slackware. [09:23] well... if i manage to get it to work i will just find some other impossible-to-fix problem :P [09:24] yeah. thta's what makes life interesting. [09:24] that's [09:24] Vinconzo (n=vincent@53510E33.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:24] i have just found out how to make the kernel compleatly lose its marbles :-) [09:24] heh [09:25] if you have two NICs or wifi devices or whatever, remove the driver for one of them, ifconfig hw ether mac-of-the-removed-one on the other... then modprobe the removed driver and watch the fun :P [09:25] that is why I still run FreeBSD. I enjoy driving myself f*cking nuts:) [09:25] linux does *not* cope well with two devices with the same hardware adress :P [09:26] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:26] i waas just installing slackware-12.2 using a usb stick, but it gives me a kernel panic. i was thinking this was becouse i chose EXT4, and maybe the kernel doesnt support this [09:26] i discovered it by accident [09:26] is this correct? [09:26] no [09:26] you need to build an initrd with usb mass storage controler support before you reboot [09:27] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [09:28] hey just curious about this http://www.lifsoft.com/ , that software allows one to start up the pc even after hibernation at a specified time [09:28] hugesmp does not have support for that, so you switch to generic-smp and add support of uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, usb, usbstorrage and ext4 [09:28] but it doesn't make sense [09:30] thou its for windows..m [09:32] perhaps there is a standard ACPI interface for that.. my bios supports wakeup [09:32] wakeup timer? [09:32] macavity: even after hibernation? [09:32] dive: does that work from S5? [09:32] SS? [09:33] S5 [09:33] ah [09:33] :P [09:33] macavity: but that software is not making sense [09:33] my cmos rtc appartenly only support waking up from S4 according to dmesg [09:33] well if the mobo supports it then it wouldn't be too hard to write a prog to access that in the cmos and power of [09:33] init[1]: its for windows.. so naturally it doesnt make sense :P [09:34] dive: exactly [09:35] macavity: Is this an edge case or something, I can boot off a usb device with no problem using only the hugesmp kernel. [09:35] does anyone know if 2.6.30 changed anything with regards to initrds? [09:35] I can't get 2.6.30 to boot with one :/ [09:35] pprkut: no but you need to tell lilo to use large memory [09:35] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-74-128.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:36] macavity: so its only a bios feature [09:36] pprkut: large-memory is the option [09:36] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:36] but how can the simply claim that it work without hw [09:36] I'm looking for a vps with slackware, any reseller to recommend [09:37] XGizzmo: roger [09:37] init[1]: i dont know.. write them a letter and ask for a technical explanation [09:38] pprkut: the kernel is to big to have room for the initrd and all fit under 15 meg so it gets truncated [09:38] heh.. x86 is *such* a nice platform, huh? :P [09:39] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] It would not be so bad if they would quit trying to support 30 year old hardwae. [09:40] welcome to the world of crappy off the shelf consumer electronics [09:41] Nylex (n=nylex@cpc1-cove3-0-0-cust642.sol2.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [09:42] giuppy (n=giuppy@host93-162-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [09:43] giuppy (n=giuppy@host93-162-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:45] XGizzmo: thanks, that was it [09:45] cool [09:46] pprkut: robby figured it out BTW. [09:47] talking about .31 [09:48] do you guys have *any* idea why i need to to Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" on .31 to get X to behave? [09:48] i dont on .30 or .30.1 [09:48] nope; that makes it ignore hal, though [09:48] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] if i use that option on .30.x i get tripple input from all devices though [09:49] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac88010.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [09:49] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: "Leaving" [09:49] that makes it kinda hard to log in at rl4 :P [09:49] waaah, hate it. For some reason I get kernel panics lately when going into runlevel 4 :( [09:49] Vinconzo (n=vincent@53510E33.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] pprkut: graphical issues? [09:50] macavity: no, Starting up X11 session manager -> screen goes black -> panic [09:51] that's strange [09:51] hitest (i=hitest@h24-207-29-70.dlt.dccnet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:51] :( [09:52] With all the kernel mode setting and other stuff added X can cause a kernel panic in nothing flat. [09:52] XGizzmo++ [09:52] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [09:52] thrice`: which card btw? [09:52] well, nvidia doesn't use that stuff yet [09:53] guys, i will try to install patched 2.6.30.1 kernel with xen-3.4-testing.hg (it's 3.4.1-rc6 currently) [09:53] anyone know of an alternative to ksnapshot that would work on flux (gui)? [09:53] dive: import [09:53] (from imagemagick) [09:53] most people said that it rules OK [09:54] Camarade_Tux, gui [09:54] well, a lot of people seem to enjoy scrot too but import is in slackware and scrot isn't [09:54] dive: oh [09:54] dive: why do you need a gui? [09:54] for time delay and the usual paraphrenalia [09:54] save as [09:55] dive: time delay : 'sleep 2 && import myfile.png' ;) [09:55] I could use Gimp but it takes too long to load [09:55] http://xen.net.ru/ [09:55] Action: dive gets his opinion pole out and waves it menacingly at Camarade_Tux [09:55] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.232.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:55] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@193.252.48.154) joined ##slackware. [09:56] dive: :D [09:57] Camarade_Tux: does this sw http://www.lifsoft.com/ make sense to you :) [09:57] Camarade_Tux: the first feature of the sw [09:58] everybody, half-unrelated, when dealing with PNG files, optipng is muuuuch more efficient at compression than convert or pngcrush, it usually makes my screenshots 50% smaller (once it only made 25% ='( ) [09:59] init[1]: hmmm, nice, you can achieve the same thing with windows' task scheduler [09:59] now, if you happen to know the corresponding api call, I'm buying it ;p [10:00] Camarade_Tux: from hibernation ? o_O [10:00] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] HOWTO check the status of your OpenGL if any? [10:01] mainly if any. [10:01] glxinfo [10:01] glxinfo | grep render [10:01] init[1]: guess it's the same as from poweroff [10:01] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-138.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:01] dive, thanks :) [10:01] beatzz: are you having trouble with nvidia drivers on slackware 12.2? [10:01] thrice`, as well, thanks ;) [10:01] macavity, negitive, just seting up pSX emulator [10:01] Camarade_Tux: the fist feature say's waking up at a specified time [10:02] s/say's/says [10:02] beatzz: good :-) [10:02] i mean after hibernation [10:02] stand by and suspend make some sense [10:02] pprkut: any Xserver timeout messages in /var/log/syslog? I had this problem and found I needed to increase the ServerTimeout in kdmrc. [10:03] but hibertation wake up is quite strange [10:03] init[1]: well, you can schedule your computer to start at a specified time and date, so it makes sense to me [10:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/216244/ [10:03] errrrm [10:03] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:03] results from glxinfo |grep render [10:04] dose this mean I have no OpenGL? [10:04] Camarade_Tux: hmm.. :) [10:04] beatzz, no hardware accel [10:04] beatzz: using ubuntu? [10:04] Camarade_Tux, i use their pastebin [10:05] i use slack dude [10:05] ok, pastebin.slackadelic.com :) [10:05] but yea, dive this is a laptop so how do i get opengl? [10:05] Camarade_Tux, thanks :) [10:05] Camarade_Tux, I will bookmark it [10:05] beatzz: which graphic card? [10:05] beatzz: yep, it means your gl isn't working :( [10:05] don't use ubuntu pastebin - too much input gives it a headache [10:06] Camarade_Tux, Im not shure what graphics card it is [10:06] beatzz: lspci can tell you [10:06] beatzz, close x, export that variable, startx , look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [10:07] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:07] allend: nope. no timeouts [10:07] beatzz, if you don't know which card you have then I'm guessing you don't have the right driver for OpenGL [10:07] dive, all my opengl stuff is stock from the installation [10:08] beatzz: then you certainly need another driver [10:08] beatzz: you need to provide SOME information [10:08] well check you card first as Camarade_Tux says in 'lspci' [10:08] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.90) joined ##slackware. [10:08] thrice`, im tryin, just smoked 2 bowls of this killer purple herb from the medical shop. [10:08] dive, im on it [10:08] well, you're a moron then [10:08] pprkut: Just a suggestion. I found that the the time taken by HAL was tripping the server timeout.. [10:09] 'medical shop'? [10:09] is that that guy who hangs out on the street corner? [10:09] dive, medical marijuana disspenceries [10:09] beatzz: where are you from? [10:09] i see [10:10] beatzz: lspci | grep VGA [10:10] over the rainbow ;P [10:10] Camarade_Tux, Colville, WA, USA [10:10] dive: lol ;p [10:10] beatzz: what does that report? [10:10] beatzz: didn't know that was legal in some places of the US [10:11] macavity, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/s7WZxh86.html [10:11] i am trying to install LAMS (learning activity management system), and the build process requires me to run certain "ant tasks" ( http://wiki.lamsfoundation.org/display/lams/Building+LAMS ) Now this is the first ever time i will be using Ant... when they say -- Run "deploy-tools" -- what command am i supposed to use? I cannot find a file or directory named "deploy-tools" anywhere in the directory tree! [10:11] beatzz: you use a pastebin for ONE line?!? [10:11] why not ? [10:11] beatzz: make sure you have Driver "intel" in the Device section in xorg.conf [10:11] its fun [10:11] are you on 12.2 or -current? [10:11] k let me check brb [10:12] 12.2 [10:12] ok, then the above should do it [10:13] Nick change: Elektro_{-_-}_ -> Elektro_{OFF}_ [10:13] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host167-192-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:13] macavity, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/IsrdUo85.html <-- Section "Device" [10:14] so how do i get to intel from vesa? [10:14] beatzz: change "vesa" to "intel" [10:14] with a text editor? [10:14] no way -_- [10:14] make a new xorg.conf using "X -configure" [10:14] Action: Camarade_Tux was about to say what thrice` just said [10:14] mmk lemmie give it a shot [10:15] and then move it from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:15] Nylex (n=nylex@cpc1-cove3-0-0-cust642.sol2.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:15] ok so i need to get outa X to do this? [10:15] yes [10:15] mmk, brb [10:16] seriously blacksheep.. you should stop smoking before you attempt to use your brain [10:16] thrice`: in "/root/"? ;p [10:16] that's where X -configure will place it, I think [10:16] thrice`: always? [10:16] either there or /etc/X11/ [10:16] I mean, not in $HOME? [10:16] well, ~ (if you run as root) [10:16] netfra (n=francesc@host130-35-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [10:16] hehe :D [10:17] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-92-106.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] beatzz seems to be running as root anyhow [10:17] how can i install many compatibility's libraries for maximum covering of working programs? [10:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:17] Action: Camarade_Tux is currently a member of the RA : Rootics Anonyms [10:17] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-74-128.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] maxote: what do you mean? [10:18] maxote: apt-get install full-compat-libs32 [10:18] e.g., GTK+-1.2, GTK-2.4.x, GTK+-2.6.x, GTK+-2.8.x, ... libs. [10:18] maxote: I think you usually don't want to [10:18] GTK+2.0.x, GTK+-2.2.x, too. [10:18] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] i belive that GTK+ has been ABI stable for quite some time [10:19] macavity: it should [10:19] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] if for reducing the hell depencencies of the unmaintained programs [10:19] so all you need is the extra symlinks to the latest version .so file [10:19] :o [10:19] grhapics [10:19] hopefully gtk+3 should break that [10:19] much improved [10:19] graphics* [10:19] * beatzz really sounds under influence, "ohhh, nice colors" [10:20] beatzz: amazing huh? [10:20] /hell depencencies/dependencies hell/ [10:20] seriously, its medical for some hella severe pain [10:20] beatzz: i mean, to think that configuring you graphics server to actually use the driver that utilizes the capabilities of your hardware would make a difference [10:20] hey i bet compiz will work now :P [10:21] i bet not [10:21] or rather, you will learn a thing or two about EXA vs XAA [10:21] i will try to move all the g.c.d. of 10.2, 11.0, 12.0, 12.1 and 12.2 to 13 [10:21] I bet it will, I also bet it will be slow :D [10:21] mostly libraries [10:22] qt3 and qt4 used both too [10:22] Camarade_Tux: oh, it can be made to run fast... but then Xv and XvMC stops working [10:22] maxote: seriously, you should consider ubuntu [10:22] axtroz (n=axtroz@212.25.47.32) joined ##slackware. [10:24] maxote: but instead of having several libs, it'd be better to just update/recompile the programs that may depend on old versions of gtk+ [10:24] qt3 and qt4 can coexist together quite well [10:25] qt3 for k3b and kde4 for djview4, it's that i went to have. [10:25] s/can// [10:26] maxote: just install 13rc1 [10:26] maxote: but you don't need several *sub*versions of gtk+2 [10:26] maxote: that will save you a heck of a lot of headache [10:26] skepsi (n=skepsi@gprs5.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Camarade_Tux, macavity, thanks [10:27] the compat libs are few MBs [10:28] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:29] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@193.252.48.154) left irc: "Leaving." [10:30] spadxiii (n=spadxiii@87.115.34.195.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] damn that snownews, every time i set a default browser it keeps switching back to lynx, i set it to links -g -driver fb and it overwrites that setting back to lynx [10:32] ah, fixed it [10:32] just use links -g the "-driver fb" was too much information i ugess [10:32] JLinux (n=usr@189.115.232.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:32] xap/mozilla-firefox-3.5-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded to mozilla-firefox-3.5. [10:33] thought everyone hated 3.5 [10:33] we don't hate it [10:33] but imho it's too unstable to be in slackware right now [10:34] they already have a lot of bad bugs to be fixed in 3.5.1 [10:34] usr (n=usr@189.115.232.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:34] unstable? It's pretty good for me. [10:36] compiz is workin like a mofo!!! w00t w00t!!! [10:37] I love FF3.5 [10:37] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:37] that's really my opinion but I don't believe anymore in any *.0 release of firefox [10:37] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:37] I really wish firefox was capable of *not crashing* when it hits a flash object that its flash player can't handle for whatever reason [10:38] 3.5 any better in that respect than 3.0 is? If so I'll upgrade right now [10:38] it's MUCH faster [10:38] i'd upgrade anyway, it's much quicker [10:38] or is the trouble in the flash plugin, not fixable by firefox? [10:38] http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=003000004CAX for instance [10:38] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [10:39] Urchlay: for once it's not really firefox's fault, it's how nsplugins (basically all browser plugins except for IE) are done [10:39] Camarade_Tux: empty page [10:40] Camarade_Tux: never mind, it took forever to load [10:40] thumbs: basically they needed a hackaton to fix bugs [10:41] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2009-06-30#Notices_.2F_Schedule [10:41] Camarade_Tux: back when I was using nspluginwrapper, the browser never crashed (sometimes flash would fail to work, but at least the browser stayed up) [10:42] the only issue I have is sound going away from the flash plugin [10:42] I don't really even like flash-driven stuff, most of the time it stays disabled via noscript, but sometimes the only way to get something done is to use whatever crappy site is out there for it [10:43] axtroz (n=axtroz@212.25.47.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] Urchlay: with the nsplugin architecture, if the plugin dies, everything dies, the plugin doesn't use processes, the browser has to directly use the plugin's function, it's shared library actually [10:43] right [10:43] the browser could work around that by spawning a child process to call the plugin's function(s) though [10:44] (though it'd complicate things I'm sure) [10:44] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:44] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Urchlay: I usually just disable flash, and enable it only when I need, and then I reload the page to get flash [10:44] flashblock is good [10:45] Urchlay: that's probably why the browser survives with nspluginwrapper [10:45] dive: noscript basically does the same thing: all flash is blocked, and can be run by clicking on it [10:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] Camarade_Tux: right. Which makes me want to go back to using nspluginwrapper, even though its performance isn't all that great [10:45] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:46] roelof (i=0@cc1215646-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Urchlay: could you detail that a bit : is it slow to react or just slower for everything? [10:46] Action: Camarade_Tux is very curious about that [10:46] hello, where can i change the qt settings in kde4 on current ? [10:46] roelof: you mean window decorations? [10:47] roelof: /etc/profile.d/qt4.sh [10:47] Camarade_Tux: I didn't benchmark it, but e.g. watching video on youtube, used more CPU than the native plugin does. Also every once in a while nspluginwrapper would freeze up for a couple of minutes (and eventually recover, if I just waited) [10:47] while frozen, it wasn't using any CPU, I assume it was some sort of deadlock situation [10:48] does anyone know why Pat chose to upgrade Qt on a release candidate? the changelog does not mention any fixes [10:48] oke, i try to make this (*http://www.compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/Yakano+-Colors-?content=95885) work [10:48] and i have qt settings [10:48] Urchlay: nsplugins are annoying when it comes to drawing, that's probably why [10:48] i can't make the dock workable [10:49] also, the wrapper maybe has to copy from the plugin data to another format which would be very heavy [10:49] roelof: i havent heard of anyone yet who runs compiz with KDE4... kwin4 can do that on its own [10:50] also, is this gizzmo for qt3 or qt4? [10:50] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Camarade_Tux: I assume a native nsplugin has direct access to the browser's video buffer, where the wrapper child process doesn't (which might account for the extra CPU use, copying data around with IPC) [10:50] also a dock like this theme ? [10:50] skepsi (n=skepsi@gprs5.vodafone.cz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:51] i belive you have to get that as a plasmoid of some sort [10:51] my point being that i dont know if compiz and KDE4 will make as nice a couple as with KDE3 [10:51] for those of us not running KDE... what the heck is a plasmoid? [10:52] Urchlay: right, there are several ways for the plugins to display and they don't always use the browsers facilities [10:52] Urchlay: an applet that uses the plasma API/framework [10:52] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p3EE3BF35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Urchlay: a shiny new thing for kde :) [10:53] "an applet", cool, I shall add that to my mental hashtable of vocabulary words [10:53] Urchlay: plasma being kdesktop and kicker fused into one + new stuff for eye candy [10:54] Urchlay: basically everything you see on that desktop is a plasmoid : http://www.kubuntu.org/system/files/kde4.jpeg [10:54] Urchlay: an applet is GUI lingo for stuff that runs "hosted" by another application.. like the google thingies that people can run directly on their desktop [10:54] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.250) joined ##slackware. [10:55] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] oke, i will puzzele further [10:55] thank you for the time ? [10:55] sorry, i mean : thank you for the time [10:55] sooo, isent fusion-icon supposed to run @ startup? [10:56] not unless you tell it to [10:56] thrice`, it did on my pc w/ slack ? [10:56] CcSsNET (n=root@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] so, you are asking about a non-slack computer now? [10:57] no [10:57] im not.. im working with slackware current [10:57] all my stuff is slack [10:57] crazy [10:57] :P [10:57] roelof: it wasnt directed at you :P [10:58] macavity: yeah, I pretty much know what an applet is (though the first thing that comes to mind is browser applets) [10:58] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] what do u have to bind for a chroot [10:58] /sys and /proc? [10:58] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:58] would i be able to use cron to scedual fusion-icon to run at startup, or do i need to put it inside of some X script somewhere? [10:59] that depends on what you are gong to do in the chroot [10:59] Camarade_Tux: looking at that screenshot, I notice there's no "close window" button on any of those... [10:59] beatzz: which desktop environment ? [10:59] KDE [10:59] macavity i plan to use a second os in the chroot [10:59] why are you running compiz in kde? [10:59] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:59] cause it has the wobbly windows [10:59] beatzz: stick it in ~/.kde/Autostart [10:59] no x or anything just cli [10:59] kde4 has all all of that by default [10:59] sweet [10:59] in kwin [10:59] i dont have kde4 [11:00] <- 3.5 [11:00] oh, ok [11:00] CcSsNET: are you just going to use it for compiling packages? [11:00] yea actually haha [11:00] guzu (n=guzu@78.96.255.95) left irc: "are you sure you wanna quit to dos? (yes/no): yes" [11:00] anyone ever used freebsd here? wondering what it's like, in comparison to slack. [11:00] CcSsNET: then you better bind proc and sys.. at least if you are going to compile anything advaced [11:01] macavity, should I 'ln' link it to that directory? [11:01] yesyes: it is very much the same, yet very much different [11:01] k [11:01] care to elborate? ;) [11:02] beatzz: i generally like to put shell scipts there [11:02] i think you can use ln beatzz [11:02] beatzz: the other option is to make KDE save the session per default [11:02] beatzz: then you dont have to do anything [11:02] Nick change: Elektro_{OFF}_ -> Elektro_{-_-}_ [11:02] how so? [11:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] beatzz: fusion-icon is xsession aware, so kde will just start it up again if it was running when KDE closed the last time [11:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Urchlay: I don't use kde, but it's possible the close buttons appear when you mouse over the widgets, or mouse over and press Ctrl [11:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:03] cmair (n=cmair@host99-14-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:03] macavity, i know i tryed that, it dident work, had to start it manualy twice [11:03] beatzz: but i dont remember where to enable sessions in KDE... i belive it is on by default, so you should know where you turned it off [11:03] Urchlay: anyway, they are stuck on the desktop [11:04] yesyes: well.. both freebsd and slackware are very "manual".. but they have different kernels and different userlands [11:04] roelof (i=0@cc1215646-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] yesyes: not to mention that BSD is in some respects a little less SysV like than slackware.. despite the fact that slackware is the most BSD like GNU/Linux distro out there [11:05] just use bsd [11:05] that depends [11:05] ok i have put a symbolic link in ~/.kde/Autostart, gana init 6 brb we will see [11:05] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] dooh [11:06] lol [11:06] windoze luser [11:06] where did we dig up that crackhead? [11:06] who me? [11:07] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:07] no, beatzz/blacksheep [11:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: [11:07] anyhows.. time to fetch some food before the store closes [11:07] bbiab [11:08] I almost completely got rid of kde. Then I remembered kile... [11:08] sigh [11:08] kile++++ [11:08] a gtk version would be good [11:08] i have nearly gotten rid of gtk [11:09] then i remembered FF [11:09] .. a Qt version would be good ;-) [11:09] heh :-) [11:09] macavity: arora [11:09] in 3.5, it accepts qt as a toolkit, though I don't think it works yet [11:09] and they experimented with a qt version iirc [11:10] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [11:10] i am still holding out for Qt to incorporate the latest version of webkit.. then konqueror will be my only browser [11:10] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:10] macavity: arora does that already ;) [11:11] sure.. but konqueror integrates proberly with the rest of KDE [11:11] macavity: qtwebkit differs a lot from mainstream webkit [11:11] macavity: arora is a qt4 browser for webkit :) it integrates well [11:11] Camarade_Tux: currently yes.. but it is intended to eventually track mainline [11:11] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] macavity: so you meant you were waiting for konqueror/kde and not qt? [11:12] Camarade_Tux: no.. konqueror is waiting for Qt to catch up with mainline webkit [11:12] macavity: yeah, but it takes some time for that [11:13] i belive it has high priority at Trolltech atm [11:13] Nokia being interested in getting their own embedded browser and all [11:13] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [11:13] anyways, afk now [11:13] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] happy fap :) [11:14] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:15] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.59.47) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Nick change: Elektro_{-_-}_ -> Elektro_{OFF}_ [11:18] Nick change: Elektro_{OFF}_ -> Elektro_{-_-}_ [11:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.24) joined ##slackware. [11:21] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:21] How do I PM in irssi? [11:21] /open [11:21] i think [11:22] i dont use that crap idk [11:22] No, it is not! [11:22] so, 'fusion-icon' is ran via '~/.kde/Autostart/fusion-icon*' so it works, but why I wonder woulden't it just automaticly start like it should have? my guess is that something is writen somewhere that suspercedes fusion-icon [11:22] CcSsNET: Why crap? [11:22] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:22] try /msg then [11:23] CcSsNET: Yes, msg is what I need. Thank you a lot! [11:23] /query [11:24] i call it crap. because either u have used naim. and found simplisty without sacraficing power or you have not and stick to bloated hugh clumbsy apps [11:24] lol [11:25] Action: CcSsNET bows [11:25] although naim is far from perfect :P [11:27] Irssi is a modular Internet Relay Chat client. It is highly extensible and very secure. Being a fullscreen, termcap based client with many features, Irssi is easily extensible through scripts and modules. [11:27] From man. [11:28] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.175.25) joined ##slackware. [11:28] CcSsNET: I find irssi pretty simple. [11:28] woo irssi [11:28] redtricycle: Yes, why? [11:29] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:30] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] CcSsNET (n=root@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [11:30] neBu (n=memoryma@86.55.2.6) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:32] pri4pus: as in, "woo irssi is awesome" [11:32] =D [11:32] usr (n=usr@189.115.232.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:33] wut, arm slack? [11:33] :D [11:34] so now there's x86, amd6, arm, and s360 (which is out of date i believe) ? [11:34] 390 [11:34] yeah, that. [11:34] yep, check out: http://slackware.com/changelog/ [11:35] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] maybe ppc will be next [11:35] then the WORLD. [11:36] hing (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Connection reset by peer [11:37] there used to be a pretty good ppc project, but I think it's dead (again) [11:38] arm is mostly embedded though, right? what specifically does this port run on? [11:38] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] i mean my nintendo ds runs arm.. [11:38] but i doubt i'll be able to run it on that. :| [11:38] I thought some netbooks are going that direction [11:39] i thought the whole point of a netbook was the portability combined with the usefulness of still being x86. [11:39] after all there have been small 'laptops' like that before that were arm and other arches, they'd run wince. [11:40] i still run linux on a jornada 690, sh3 arch, i should had got the 720, arm =/ [11:40] when can i install slackware on my lawnmower? [11:41] ok, ff 3.5, ok [11:41] ok [11:41] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:41] Azalyn: For somebody netbook is portability, 12 hours battery life and just internet surfing :-) [11:42] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:42] thrice`: I don't think you linked to slackware.com/changelog for that, but you made me check it and noticed ff 3.5 ;) [11:42] :) [11:43] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:43] hello, people [11:43] if it went into slackware, I guess it must be better than I thought [11:43] yo gtl [11:43] hehe, how's it going, Camarade_Tux ? [11:44] gtl: fine, and lazy ;p and you? [11:44] same here! [11:45] ineedyourtourch (n=needyou@59.40.59.200) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Action: Urchlay wants slackware on a nintendo DS :) [11:50] what for , Urchlay [11:50] Urchlay, hahaha! [11:51] I don't see the point either. could you still play games? [11:51] I want slackware on my timex watch. [11:52] sure ... throught wine :^) [11:52] thrice`, i guess he was joking, and made me and you wonder [11:53] as for ff 3.5 [11:53] maybe slack is going to be a bit more lax with non-core components. [11:53] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Azalyn: how so? it's in -current [11:54] i mean a browser is usually not something that will destroy your system. [11:54] it's a really vulnerable part [11:55] thrice`: I mean non core in the sense of not being critical to the system's general stability, like the kernel itself, glibc, or Xorg [11:55] bah, slackpkg fails if the path doesn't end with an '/' [11:55] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:55] forgot to close ff [11:56] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p3EE3BF35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [11:57] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] ff3.5 really is good though [11:57] i was using the beta before [11:57] for months. [11:58] but the release version is really way better. and