[00:00] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.202) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] I yell at things when I'm short of sleep, but I try very much to avoid yelling at animals, human or not. [00:00] FUnny, one hour is timezone, the other one we made up just so we can be cooler than UK. [00:00] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.131) joined ##slackware. [00:01] EuroTrash: haha .. goeiesmorgens ;) [00:01] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] I will go to work at 5:30. So I have *yet* 2:30 to be here.. [00:01] Kopje thee! [00:01] mm only coke on fridge :( and orange juice [00:01] That sounds a truly horrid combination. [00:02] mix it with either coke or vodka :) [00:03] Gawd save us! I had my stomach raped by screwdrivers in my misspent youth. [00:03] caoliver: hehe, I prefer Single malts these days :) that and proper ales and bitters. :) [00:03] jaja, yes i have whisky here in my bedroom but... nope [00:03] i dont like white alcohol [00:04] Prefer a nice wine, stout, or Armagnac. [00:04] It comes in paisley you know. ;-) [00:05] Actually a nice single malt neat is quite nice. I just don't naturally order them. [00:05] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-238-5.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:ad) joined ##slackware. [00:06] acidtripper: what kind of whisky? [00:06] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-238-5.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] teachers and jack [00:06] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-173-70.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] a cheap plonk ;) [00:07] wxcam working but i cant ajust resolution to 800x600, its 1600x1200 and my lcd accept only 1366x768 :S [00:07] so i cant see a part [00:07] BP{k}, is there a new version from GoogleEarth? [00:07] yes teachers is very bad... a morining like 10 o clock i mixed it with a cheap kinda coke called "interlagos" and waacchckk [00:07] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Is anyone here ? [00:07] im using GoogleEarth-5.0.11733.9347-i486-1 [00:08] we were very drunk andd orher things :S [00:08] powtrix: What does googleearth do ? [00:08] powtrix: there should be yes. However google earth are bastards by not naming their downloads properly. [00:09] powtrix: Is googleearth for finding the location on earth ? [00:09] Linux-IRC: google it. :P [00:09] o_9 [00:10] ah there is a 5.1 bea [00:10] beta [00:10] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [00:11] cant set aspect ratio on wxcam [00:12] the zsnes does not work well with compat32, but snes9x_gtk OMG back to SNES era :D [00:12] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] and snes9x_gtk-x86_64 [00:13] powtrix: new version should be: Google Earth for GNU/Linux 5.1.3509.4636 .. doing a buildscript now. :) [00:13] good, ill test|use it when possible :) [00:14] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:14] it doesn't let me use 640x480 resolutions :S [00:14] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:15] acidtripper, what version? [00:15] yht (n=yht@125.161.63.84) joined ##slackware. [00:15] wxcam [00:16] what *version* of wxcam he asked. ;) [00:16] 1.04? [00:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Not that this helps you, but I remember hearing something about resolution issues for 102. [00:17] yes [00:17] 1.04 [00:17] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:18] and when recording video cant open /dev/dsp [00:18] acidtripper: When did you last update current? [00:18] BP{k}, i just changed the binary and the tgz was created. testing it and working [00:18] mmm one week.. maybe more [00:18] acidtripper: update it, the /dev/dsp issue will probably be fixed. [00:19] fire|bird, that's not a permissions issue? [00:19] lordkelmain: Could still be, but in current, there was an issue with phonon in kde, his screenshot from earlier shows he's using kde, i.e. the phonon issue is probably the cause here and and update should fix that. [00:20] s/and and/and an/ [00:20] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:c1) left irc: No route to host [00:20] 'nite [00:20] Action: powtrix flying in Mars [00:20] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [00:20] ZzzzZzzzz [00:20] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [00:20] fire|bird, ah, I see. [00:21] yes, i will try it but what most important is i cant set resoultion and have a huge resoltion [00:22] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [00:23] I suppose there's no man page for it. [00:23] Phoenix_br (n=chatzill@187-26-10-19.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:24] nope [00:24] powtrix: thanks. :) It's mostly a repackaging that jusqt need $VERSION ammending :) [00:25] only doing slackpkg upgrade [00:25] must upgrade pacakges.. [00:25] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:25] a better interface i think [00:25] it seems to be a fixed bug -) Some bug fixes in resolution change [00:25] no flicks as 5.0 does [00:25] This alternative time zone thing sucks [00:26] what's that? [00:26] It's like midnight back home [00:27] hehe [00:27] straterra, let me know when you're ready for some ass kicking [00:27] jeev: Uhm..I'm in China [00:27] i'm just happy my xfce clock tooltip knows the right day of the weekagain [00:27] acidtripper, what do you get from *ls /etc/modprobe.d/* ? [00:27] I didn't take my gaming rig with me [00:27] (Without the asterisks.) [00:28] ahh, crap [00:28] lordkelmain, dsp do you mean? [00:29] Nope, /etc/modprobe.d [00:29] blacklist.conf isapnp.conf modprobe.conf psmouse.conf sound usb-controller.conf [00:30] i found a patch there [00:30] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a86be8e70812161030y72409a3cnf07f1b4a05a998af%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=wxcam-users [00:31] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] fire|bird, i did upgradepkg but no kde new packages [00:34] acidtripper: upgradepkg? So, you have an updated local mirror that you ran that on? [00:35] wait i forgot to upgrade slackpkg :P [00:35] update* [00:35] slackpkg update firebird [00:35] removepkg psyber [00:35] lol [00:35] and no idea howto set resolution [00:35] :S [00:35] oops missed part of the conversation [00:37] it seems to be a bugfix but... not really fixed, at least for my device [00:38] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:39] now i can see upgrades [00:39] and there are some kde [00:39] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:40] and phonon [00:40] acidtripper, is your wxcam 32 or 64 bit? [00:42] 64 [00:42] take a look to my pet :P gonzalo.dnsalias.org/imagen-004.png [00:42] ok. trying compile it [00:43] 32? [00:43] 64 [00:44] im using 64bits wxcam [00:44] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:45] powtrix, ! [00:45] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] missing pkgs first ;) [00:46] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:47] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-63-170.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:47] any fix after upgrading? [00:47] or not necessary? someone upgraded? i upgraded like 2 weeks ago [00:49] zomg! [00:49] acidtripper: 2 weeks .. that's about 8 or so different upgrade batches you have missed. [00:50] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:50] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [00:50] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] but surely someone running -current would know to check the ChangeLog.txt daily to see if there are new updates. [00:50] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:51] LITB_ (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] hey acidtripper here is the link for the changelog on slackware current http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 [00:52] lighttpd installed in home server [00:53] well both 4 xwcam deps are installed here but compilation fails [00:53] what error? [00:53] acidtripper: http://slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=x86_64 <-- since you are running x86_64 [00:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [00:53] yes, i know and i changed [00:54] oops thanks BP [00:54] as i see i dont have to change anything upgrading without modifying [00:55] psyber: hehe, you couldn't know. :) [00:55] alot like this: /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h:65: error: wxIsBusy was not declared in this scope [00:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80.123.51.147) joined ##slackware. [00:56] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:03] well years late my cam is back to work ;) [01:04] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] can you change resolution? [01:04] frame resolution in preferencies? [01:04] whats the difference between wxgtk 1 and 2? [01:05] version or config parameters? [01:05] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] resolution and others options are working [01:05] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:07] can yo pass me that packages? [01:07] i wanna test it it works for me [01:07] the image quality is not good as my H50 by the way [01:07] ? wxcam-1.0.4-x86_64-1 [01:07] yes, and maybe wxgtk [01:08] lechuck.net@gmail.com [01:08] you can compile the result will be same [01:08] i have just compilled but i cant change resolution [01:09] i ahve wxcam installed and working [01:09] but cant change resolution and is bigger than my monitor :( [01:09] the max i can is 640x480 [01:10] cam limits [01:10] mmm mine is 1600x1200 :S [01:10] and my screen is 1366x768 [01:10] and i cant downgrade it [01:11] mv ~/.wxcam ~/.wxcam.bad [01:11] if anyone has a spare vga camera, whether it be a webcam or a memory chip-based one, let me know [01:11] do all ATI cards not have closed source drivers now? [01:11] that was for me? [01:11] acidtripper: mv ~/.wxcam ~/.wxcam.bad [01:12] or edit it [01:12] lets see if removing that config file helps [01:13] nope, window is smaller but resolution still high [01:13] $ mv ~/.wxcam{,.bad} [01:14] i setted resolution on config file but when i open wxcam it closes unspectedly [01:14] Found V4L2_PIX_FMT_YUYV pixel format [01:14] Violación de segmento [01:15] 640x480 worked :D [01:15] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:15] here is: Resolution: 640x480 [01:15] and have good quality [01:15] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:15] here too and working :D [01:15] hello* [01:15] GATO!! [01:15] ok now let your mouse sleep ;p [01:15] ^^ [01:15] yes... its a hamster [01:15] psyber1 (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] same thing [01:16] and is sleeping in another room couse there was a bad smell here :S [01:17] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:17] Creative Webcam Go 3, old as dinossaur [01:18] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] mine is integrated on laptop [01:21] stupid laptop wireless switch [01:22] psyber1, I have one of those too. [01:22] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:22] When wifi is "on" there's supposed to be an LED on there, but in slack it's not. [01:22] i dont know whats up with it but it but it keeps going out [01:22] I'm uncertain whether it's LED or the OS. [01:23] what kind of a laptop do you have ? [01:24] Kidpunkx (n=kidpunkx@adsl-85-46-217.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] hello all how can I get gnu automake? [01:27] http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/ [01:27] slackware already has automake: /var/log/packages/automake-1.10.1-noarch-1 [01:28] i have 12.2 then why cant I install this program [01:28] http://sterlingdesktops.com/pub/lspong/lspong-0.1.3.tar.bz2 [01:29] Kidpunkx, uh why can't you? what error messages did it give? [01:30] root@fubx:/home/masterx831/Sources/lspong-0.1.3# autogen.sh && ./configure && make [01:30] -su: autogen.sh: command not found [01:30] ./configure? [01:30] oops let me ch3eck [01:30] only ./configure --prefix=/usr [01:31] for what are u using lspong? [01:31] okay let me check [01:31] its a game written [01:31] trying to test it out [01:31] what kind of game? [01:31] ping pong [01:32] lol [01:32] do you play it in real life? [01:32] hey hey I'm learnign over here [01:32] linux is soooo hard :-( [01:32] who developed that game? [01:32] acidtripper, i would [01:32] my friend [01:33] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] and I'm learning how to so I can do my own but its jsut so much to learn aobut in linux and i dotn knwo hwere to start [01:34] yes, start knowing a distro, configuring building, and as i see, i mean my personal opinion then start developing and writing code [01:34] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [01:34] Nick change: TwinReverb -> people [01:34] do you know something about C? C++? [01:34] Kidpunkx in the dir for the game do a ls -al and let me see that [01:34] Nick change: people -> TwinReverb [01:34] could you do ./configure --prefix=/usr? [01:35] psyber1, I;m goign to pm you [01:35] ok [01:35] acidtripper, htat worked how did you know through? [01:36] couse sometimes there isn't any automake, personally i dont use them [01:36] is that a c program? [01:36] ChangeLog NEWS autoscan.log config.status* lspong.cpp [01:36] INSTALL README calcs.h configure* missing@ [01:36] Makefile TODO config.h configure.ac stamp-h1 [01:36] Channel flood from Kidpunkx -- kicking [01:36] Makefile-bak aclocal.m4 config.h.in configure.scan threads.h [01:36] Kidpunkx kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:37] failkid ... fails [01:37] lol [01:37] Kidpunkx (n=kidpunkx@adsl-85-46-217.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] and he said: i send you via pm :P [01:37] stupid slackboy that was a private message you idiot [01:37] nope [01:37] it was here sucker [01:37] :P [01:38] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:38] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] I've clearly put /msg psyber1 [01:39] oh well who cares [01:39] maybe god hates you? [01:39] i would say try ./configure --prefix=/usr [01:39] lol [01:39] if you beleive in god that is [01:39] god is not human [01:39] it's a creator [01:40] A creator that gave us life on earth it created the earth [01:40] i don't beleive in god myself but if you say so [01:40] Jesus is human he is jsut a regular human not a god [01:40] he msut have bene pretty busy he ahd to create the rest of the unverse too [01:40] he was born and was created by a creator like us [01:40] mm i don't know if god exist, but what we have to believe is that our life is unique and we have to use it and do good things with it [01:41] toastytoast, how do you know that god is a he [01:41] Kidpunkx, if you want to argue that go to #jesus or #athiest or ##slackofftopic please [01:41] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Action: toastytoast wonders how god has time for his prayers if he is busy creating other planets on the fringes of the univers [01:41] it's not even human [01:41] Action: BP{k} doesn't think this channel is called ##religion .... [01:41] she then [01:41] i'm sure you'll be welcome in all three of those [01:41] lol [01:41] it [01:41] my bad [01:41] doesn't matter [01:41] it's our personal life and balance so... you decide what you want to be [01:41] we were just stuck on this subject [01:41] it's all good, just trying to help you out [01:41] ok now it seems like a good time to quote the hitchhikers guide [01:42] i dont need help with this I need help with this program how to run it lol [01:42] yeha if you want to beleive in a god be my guest as long as you don't try to drag me into beleiveing in god as well i'm content on letting you live how you wish [01:42] ldpong? 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[01:47] :S [01:47] crap [01:47] do this: go to lspong folder do ./configure --prefix=/usr [01:48] then make [01:48] make install [01:48] and then [01:48] ok [01:48] $lspong on terminal [01:48] how can I clean that off through what I did [01:48] or just run the install.sh script [01:48] make distclean [01:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:48] ok [01:48] i will download that file and i will helpu [01:49] yes [01:49] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [01:49] do what i told you [01:49] and it must work [01:49] josefig (n=JoseFig@200.56.150.49) joined ##slackware. [01:50] okay I jsut did the --prefix=/usr <--- what ever the fuck that stand for [01:50] oops iddint meant ot curse sorry [01:50] build it and then run it [01:50] or google: build from source on linux [01:50] then make [01:50] then make install [01:50] ok [01:51] now typing lspong on console game must start [01:51] dont run it as root [01:51] hmMm.;. dofferent error message brb let me check what is wrong [01:51] oh [01:51] lol thats why [01:51] pass the errors [01:52] what? [01:52] nevermidn it works I was in root [01:52] lol [01:52] and how is the game? [01:52] its good but needs more work [01:52] mm i will download it [01:52] should put a naked rwoman tranparency to play isntead of a black background [01:53] one thing Kidpunkx you dont want to run anything as root unless you really need to want to run as regular user [01:53] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] I use root when I'm either working with nmap, iptablkes, lsof and netstats [01:55] cool ... most of us already know what to use root for [01:55] how long you guys used linux for [01:55] 8 years [01:55] seems to me you guys are experts [01:55] no wonder [01:56] only 1 yr and 6 month [01:56] anbd its freaking hard too much too learn [01:56] how i move ? [01:56] its really not that bad , once you get used to it I actually started with debian [01:56] to punch the ball? [01:57] with which keys? [01:57] Kidpunkx:!!! [01:57] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:57] acidtripper, its hard [01:57] use the arrow keys [01:57] up down left right [01:58] highest score I've gotten was 40 [01:58] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:ad) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:58] you beet 40 youre the new champion [01:59] i cant predict where the ball will go :P [02:00] 25 :P [02:03] can anyone think of a work-around for a complete dismount of / for those using LUKS and LVM? i was thinking maybe a tmpfs of just enough to reboot (i.e. find what programs are launched when it tries to shut off LUKS and LVM and install just enough for that to an image, then during shutdown copy it to tmpfs, mount tmpfs as root and disengage) [02:03] thats why i said its too hard [02:04] dont worry there will be a naked woman as backgroudn for transparecny [02:04] linux isn't too hard, it's just harder than you want it to be [02:04] minux (n=minux@c-76-105-7-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] it depends and the distro, now a days linux is too easy in distros like ubuntu, suse, etc. [02:05] just clicking and selecting, like windows method [02:05] on* [02:06] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:07] Rat4091 (n=rat@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] TwinReverb, that is why I'm sticking with slackbuild till i have better knowledge on how to compile [02:08] and I just sometihng new tpoday /configure --prefix=/usr [02:08] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [02:09] prefix is where the program will be compiled [02:09] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:09] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@80.202.41.176) joined ##slackware. [02:09] wel i heard of this new extension .py what is that [02:09] it's called google [02:10] amazing, huh? [02:10] lol [02:10] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:10] I hate you [02:10] That's fine [02:10] lol [02:10] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Nick change: Rat4091 -> Rat409 [02:10] Kidpunkx, oh well [02:11] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [02:11] straterra, hey do you happen to know what happens when you mount something as / after / is already mounted? does it replace / ? [02:11] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:12] Err, what do you mean? [02:12] mount can do a remount [02:13] so when I want to clean sometihng jsut run a make distclean in the working directory [02:14] No [02:14] Not every make file supports that [02:14] straterra, well i'm wondering what happens when you loop-mount an image for / [02:15] i'm not talking about remounting the device but the mount point by a different device (of sorts) [02:15] You can do that..just pass mount the remount option [02:15] Specify the new root [02:15] I think [02:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:16] straterra, i'll try it some time soon [02:16] if i can do that using tmpfs i have "solved" the whole unclean-dismount "problem" with LUKS/LVM fully encrypted hard drive type installations [02:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:18] Pat have to upgrade slackware.com/info [02:19] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:19] and add x86_64 port there, couse he only talks about 32-bit systems there [02:19] lyrae_girl (n=Lyrae@220.163.84.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:20] acidtripper: It is quite evident on the slackware.com home page that 64bit slackware exists. [02:20] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [02:22] yes, but it shouldn't be a bad idea to add that info to the info page [02:22] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:22] there are a few lines [02:22] they didn't say it was a bad idea [02:24] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.134) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:24] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-wprlbgluerlkqhsr) joined ##slackware. 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[02:53] 15 - 20 degrees first on coarse then fine [02:54] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A528.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:54] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:55] press ctrl+l, it scared me [02:58] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [02:58] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [02:58] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [03:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:03] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) left irc: "Gone Indefinitely" [03:03] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [03:03] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:04] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.81.228) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Mornin [03:09] morning Zordrak, how are you? [03:09] psyber1 (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:09] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.81.228) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] Annoyed that the 7:30 traffic is worse than the 8:30 traffic [03:10] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.42.175) joined ##slackware. [03:11] decided to come in early.. barely saved any time because of the worse traffic [03:12] lol everyone had the same idea huh? [03:12] seems everyone else comes in early every day [03:12] best traffic is to come in at 10am and leave at 6-7pm [03:13] wifey not like that i guess? [03:13] depends.. her timetable is really sporadic [03:13] but by the time i get hame from that and eat tea.. its bedtime [03:13] LITB_ (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:13] evo- (n=evo@HSI-KBW-091-089-116-122.hsi2.kabelbw.de) joined ##slackware. [03:15] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:15] lyrae_girl (n=Lyrae@220.163.84.243) joined ##slackware. [03:17] from where to where you have to travel Zordrak ? [03:17] from 14 miles away to here :) [03:17] place? [03:17] sheffield [03:18] lol england :P [03:18] using slack at office? [03:18] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] i run this entire network off slackware [03:19] slackware and coffee [03:19] Is there an easy way to use iptables to block a single IP? [03:19] :P what's your job? [03:20] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [03:20] went to bed, 5.20 here [03:20] night ;) [03:21] which is the best method to handle dyndns? [03:22] yht (n=yht@125.161.63.84) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [03:22] i have gonzalo.dnsalias.org and i want to upgrade it everytime i connect [03:23] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:23] im using linksys router option but i want to do it on linux, cose sometimes i don't connect to that router [03:24] lol i found it ;) [03:24] http://code.google.com/p/ndyndns/ [03:25] acidtripper: im the sole systems admin / it manager for a semiconductor company [03:26] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:29] MadSlacker (n=MadSlack@59.177.108.108) joined ##slackware. [03:30] hey Motoko-chan this may be what your looking for https://support.webreseller.net/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=37 [03:30] Already found, but thanks. [03:30] Didn't help. [03:30] Jennic Limited? [03:30] I just used route to reject from that host. [03:30] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:31] ;) [03:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [03:34] ebw (n=user@e181181022.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:35] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@118.90.7.50) joined ##slackware. [03:36] MadSlacker (n=MadSlack@59.177.108.108) left ##slackware. [03:41] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@118.90.7.50) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:41] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:42] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Zordrak: that's cool [03:43] im sure there are a few fellow brits in here [03:44] i'm from west midlands, but since i finished my bsc, i'm in london doing an msc [03:44] wonder if you're a blades fan [03:44] no. im human. [03:45] my forehead isnt a sloped plate [03:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:49] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" 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[04:13] [ installed ] - poppler-0.12.1-x86_64-1 [ installed ] - poppler-data-0.3.0-noarch-1 [04:14] anyone have the same problem? [04:16] if you run locate libpoppler.so what does it return to you ? (after an updatedb) [04:16] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:16] Installed evince from where OclkdMan? [04:16] sounds like you upgraded your poppler *after* your compiled evince [04:17] i'd re-make your evince package [04:17] alienBOB: from here :http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.0/x86_64/evince-2.26.2-x86_64-1_rlw.tgz [04:17] the only precompiled i've found. [04:17] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-176.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:17] he probably made it against the default poppler which you don't have [04:17] mancha: i have slackware64-current. [04:18] mancha: do i have to downgrade poppler? [04:18] yes, to the vanilla 13.0 poppler from the patches dir [04:18] get slackyd from slacky.eu and try to install from there repository (they have evince) (if you want another package) [04:19] OclkdMan: poppler in -current has /usr/lib64/libpoppler.so.5 [04:19] (http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/graphic/evince/) [04:19] So you'll have to recompile evince [04:20] either re-compile evince (which i said first) or downgrade poppler to 13's vs 13-current [04:20] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-170-163.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] ok! thank you all.! i'll recompile evince because i have other pdfviewers that uses poppler [04:20] Remember, slackware-current is not the same as 13.0 - the farther we move from 13.0 the higher the chance that pre-compiled 3rd-party packages will break [04:22] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.12.94) left irc: "Leaving" [04:23] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-46-217.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Now Playing... Bad English - When I see you smile [04:25] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [04:29] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [04:30] evo- (n=evo@HSI-KBW-091-089-116-122.hsi2.kabelbw.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [04:32] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:32] good morning :-) [04:32] i feel like crap [04:32] same here [04:32] ever seen crank 2? [04:32] my throat hurts and i am out of pain killers [04:32] no, not 2 [04:33] know how insane 1 is? [04:33] its fun.. and she is *so* hot [04:33] uh, what. [04:33] his girl [04:33] oh right [04:33] masterx831: be careful with "now playing" scripts in your IRC client - you _will_ get banned if this repeats [04:34] yeah, we played the crank 2 drinking game last night. everytime something insane happens or someone gets shot, you take a drink. [04:34] lol [04:34] macavity: we used spirits. i think you can finish the rest of this story yourself. [04:34] ouch ouch ouch [04:34] how many were hospitalized? [04:35] none. but i have 5 bandaids on my arms, and am sore all over [04:35] :P [04:35] you had it comming [04:36] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:36] it was a good night, got to know my female friend better. [04:36] macavity: whats up with you? why in pain? [04:37] i cought some flu shit [04:37] oh yum. chicken soup :) [04:38] yesterday i only had a head ache and a mild nausia.. today it is in my throat and possibly my lungs too [04:38] frullet (n=hooch@203-214-23-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:38] Action: macavity makes hot tea [04:39] lol [04:39] Action: frullet Just finished highschool [04:39] I do the now playing script to wake you focks up lol [04:39] watch it.. [04:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] how many tuxes are there on a quad-core box? i've only seen two on a dual-core... [04:40] slava_dp: four. [04:40] masterx831: dont do it. full stop. [04:40] spook, cool. gotta get a quad-core just to see the fun. [04:40] macavity: been to the doc? might be chest infection [04:41] slava_dp: well, 2.6.29 has a tasmanian devil dressed up as tux. [04:42] spook, i know :) but 2.6.29.6 hasn't been good to me. i'm using .30 on slack 13. [04:42] id like to see it on the Core i7 [04:42] ebw (n=user@e181181022.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:42] sinedrio (n=sinedrio@193-126-129-134.net.novis.pt) left irc: Client Quit [04:42] for 8 cores you get logo and an 'x8', from what i hear [04:43] ive seen a photo of a monitor with 16 Tuxes on [04:43] I'm trying to parse a simple text file and never did this before. Could someone help with the next step I need to do? [04:43] hmmm. [04:43] Any help? http://pastebin.ca/1667846 [04:43] yeah.. i get 8 on a single quad-xeon [04:43] (four cores, twe threads per core) [04:44] might change based on size of your frame buffer. [04:45] that would be a fun bug :P [04:45] some 1024 core/cpu system just hangs because the screen resolution is too small :P [04:45] that would almost sound like something out of Redmond [04:46] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:50] lf4: parse for what in what? [04:50] Camarade_Tux: the pastebin has the information. 02:46 < lf4> Any help? http://pastebin.ca/1667846 [04:51] lf4: no, the pastebin doesn't say what you want to do with that [04:51] and which tool you're going to use [04:52] The top I explain what commands I'm using. I am trying to keep this as a bash script. I need to get the orderid's (first set of numbers) in a format of ######|######|######| for egreping log files. [04:54] This is when I wish I knew perl :/ [04:55] for that, you only need sed [04:55] Action: Zordrak <3 perl [04:55] Perl consolidated my job position today [04:55] Action: frullet Also <3 perl [04:55] Camarade_Tux: sed huh :) Ok I'll look at that. thanks. [04:56] okay, okay [04:56] Action: Camarade_Tux <3 ocaml [04:56] perl is to python as slackware is to ubuntu :) [04:56] ^^ [04:56] Zordrak: very well said. [04:59] i just wish people would stop moving away from perl. its so thorughly proven and useful. [04:59] Moving away form perl? My coworker is programming everything we use in perl. [04:59] but having said that i wish people would stop writing such awful perl code that it makes people want to leave it because they cant understand it [05:00] lf4: used to be that half or more webapps were written in perl.. now its all python and php [05:00] even more non-webapps have moved to python [05:00] and a few morons chose ruby [05:01] on rails [05:01] and then couldnt go from ruby to perl.. so they went python too [05:01] ^^ [05:01] they should go to ocaml instead (although I'm not sure I'd like them to...) [05:01] I agree two of my coworkers said they want to learn python lol but they didn't have the drive to learn that. [05:02] so long as they dont go to java.. they can keep doing their silly little python thing [05:02] Yay Java! [05:02] 10:02:01 < Zordrak> so long as they dont go to microsoft.. they can keep doing their silly little ubuntu thing [05:02] etc ad infititum [05:02] evo- (n=evo@HSI-KBW-091-089-116-122.hsi2.kabelbw.de) joined ##slackware. [05:02] *infinitum [05:02] actually, I probably prefer java to python [05:03] Action: slackytude slaps Camarade_Tux [05:03] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-138-87.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:03] slackytude: I was wondering where you were ;p [05:03] Action: Zordrak starts an "Airplane" beat-line in front of Camarade_Tux [05:03] hmMm... [05:03] wheres the nun with the nunchucks? [05:03] Camarade_Tux: watching you -_- [05:03] spook: can be the boxer [05:03] Zordrak: you don't want to know... [05:04] slackytude: ^^ [05:04] Action: slackytude goes back to python coding [05:04] save your soul, don't! [05:04] meh! [05:04] I likez it [05:04] trade your soul for girlz and moneyz instead! [05:04] tempting... [05:04] to imagine java.. one has to imagfine a 7 layer OSI model that has been split up into eighteen layers [05:05] imho the code doesn't look as bad as python code :D [05:05] Zordrak: boxer? [05:05] I can haz girlz and moneyz, plz? kthx bye [05:05] well, not imho, but for me, I just can't read python code [05:05] spook: wrt the airplane beat-line [05:05] slackytude: sure, you only need to forget all your python first :) [05:05] O_o [05:06] or no girlz and no moneyz [05:06] girl with python [05:06] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2757302250_15c99a653c.jpg?v=0 [05:06] lots of results for that [05:06] girls with ocalm = 0 [05:07] I winz! [05:07] sometimes think that java was an attempt to be platform-independant perl until they thought.. oh wait, shit.. perl already is platform independant.. we'd better make the OO thirty layers deep to make it look like we didnt just waste our time with this piece of shit [05:07] well, java was meant to be used for special purpose hardware [05:08] like settop boxes [05:08] java and perl don't overlap, they're not meant for the same apps at all [05:08] slackytude: false! [05:08] Action: Camarade_Tux finds a random girl in the street and teaches her ocaml ;p [05:09] slackytude: look for girls with camls -_- (or not, might be aweful) [05:09] Camarade_Tux: structurally they are the same... except java tries to break the structure wherever possible.. and add unnecessary layers (and containers) of complexity [05:10] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [05:10] both perl and java are ugly [05:10] 1 [05:11] so its like java started its design by mimicking perl... but realised it didnt want to be perl so went on to tmry to be c++.. but it was already designed like perl and so the port to c++ style ended up giving us this messy piece of crap we now know of as Java [05:11] Action: Zordrak did his dissertation in java :'( [05:11] altho java is more ugly. especially if you consider stuff like netbeans [05:11] Zordrak: for one, perl is purely interpreted (which I don't think fit bigger projects) [05:12] Camarade_Tux is just like one of those lisp guys [05:12] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:12] lisp is so great, you should do your big project in it [05:12] Zordrak: i dont get it [05:13] and then you point out, that lisp might be a great language and all, but nobody is gonna touch it with a big stick, outside academia [05:13] spook: watch Airplane :) [05:13] and java and perl have some differences... http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=javasteady&lang2=perl&box=1 [05:13] slackytude: yeah shith man.. lets start writing web-apps in Haskell :) [05:13] perl is good for scriping, java doesn't aim at that [05:14] Zordrak: which one [05:14] Camarade_Tux: stop it. youre completely missing the point of what i was saying. I am not comparing perl and its uses now to java and its uses now [05:15] Camarade_Tux: no. just stop now. [05:15] spook: Airplane! (1980) [05:15] hehe, you could for ocsigen (in ocaml), guaranteed against code injections, valid html/xhtml output guaranteed too and great perf ;-) [05:15] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) left irc: "Gone Indefinitely" [05:15] Zordrak: oh that one [05:15] slackytude: a lot of really funky stuff gets written in lisp.. among other things OSes for satelites [05:15] macavity: really???? damn..;) [05:16] slackytude: I only defend what I consider a good language against what I consider bad languages ;-) [05:17] being able to run the REPL on a running kernel is probably a nice feature if your hardware has been hauled into space ;-) [05:17] that is when you dont want to botch a reboot [05:18] talking of satelites.. how hard would it be to hijack the Viasat satelit? :P [05:19] i would really like to hijack it and only show documentaries on all channels for, say, a month ;-) [05:21] macavity: lol [05:22] that should wake up all those who took the blue pill :P [05:22] did you say you can write OSes in lisp for satelites? [05:22] sure [05:22] "you"= anyone... [05:22] ah, yes.. my lisp-fu does not even begin to cover that [05:23] but i know that they routinely build hardware intepreters for Common Lisp for stuff like that [05:23] lisp can be broken down to just a hand full of instructions [05:24] thats even how the Mulics machines worked [05:25] SBCL is pretty fast too on x86/x86_64 ;-) [05:25] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.29.70) joined ##slackware. [05:25] macavity: in order to test that..or write software for satelites, i get it that you must have the hardware...is there some kind of emulator or something to test the software you write? (if you dont have the money to buy hardware but you want to write stuff and help) [05:26] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:26] i have the idea that if there is a software emulator of the satelite, they *probably* keep it locked up in a safe instead of storing it on a machine with an internet connection ;-) [05:26] americans hijack russian satellites and test, russian hijack american satellites and test, europeans hijack from both ^^ [05:27] lol ;) [05:27] i would love to know something like that.... [05:27] wooo, i might become a roller derby referee [05:27] according to the IQ test on http://www.highiqsociety.org/ i have an iq of 128 [05:28] toastytoast: keep working on it :P [05:28] well thats high enough to get into the high iq socity [05:28] this year's ICFP contest was about satellite trajectories btw: http://icfpcontest.org/task-1.9.pdf :) [05:28] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:28] toastytoast: but look at the bright side.. i was told at the university that you need 125 or better to grasp the full extend of the engenering/CS/math lines [05:29] i see [05:29] well my brian hurts a little now [05:29] i was given one in the army that said 135 [05:29] now? [05:29] 8-) [05:29] and i did the one from Mensa which said 146 [05:30] i see i would like to take an actuall paper iq test [05:30] i think the army one was the best.. the Mensa one was pure optical pattern recognition [05:30] but that one is the most relaible on the internet [05:30] the army one actually had common sense tests too :P [05:30] I think IQ tests suck :) [05:31] to quote Albert Einstein: The *only* thing an IQ test can tell you is what the creators of the test think IQ is [05:31] lol [05:31] if you are in this channel and you publicly state your IQ then the way i get it.. its usually Actual_IQ==IQ_Stated/2; [05:32] that would make pretty much everyone retarded then [05:32] in that case i should barely be able to tie my shoe laces :P [05:32] The bigger problem is that an IQ administered outside of a controlled environment is a complete waste of time [05:32] *IQ test [05:32] macavity: ohh when did your mom stop helping you with that? [05:32] well ok then The-Croupier my iq is 214 [05:33] macavity: I thought you weren't able already :D [05:33] toastytoast: too late.. read ^^ [05:33] i know [05:33] jsut saying [05:33] i wouldnt mind an IQ in that range.. then i wouldn't have to fetch the pocket calculator that often :P [05:34] also, not everybody ... only the ones stating numbers ;) there is no way you can proove that ... and that just isnt a real statement by definition [05:34] i think your brain migh asplode [05:34] macavity: lol [05:34] My IQ is over 9000. ;) [05:34] OVER 9000! [05:34] IQ test are not very good and can only test one part of your overall intelligence [05:34] my point being that the number is irelevant [05:34] creativity is a form of intelligence that it cannot test [05:34] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:34] modulo 200 that's always 0 :) [05:34] as there are more IQ tests then there are kinds of toilet paper [05:35] and the Mensa one *especially* suck [05:35] macavity: true..;) [05:35] i have Aspergers Syndrome.. so visual pattern recognition comes totally natural to me [05:35] macavity: any you find smoother? :) [05:35] TwinReverb: that reminds me when some mothers told their children that they are "special" [05:35] but absorbing information from everyday english, with all its ambiguity and vague statements is an entirely different ballgame [05:36] so i have an advantage that the test messures, and a disability that the test does *not* messure [05:36] yeah well i blame the government [05:36] it's there fault [05:36] everyhting is their fault [05:36] their [05:36] yeha i know [05:36] :P [05:36] i the pattern looked wrong ;-) [05:37] which is why i amde sure i typed it right the second time [05:37] damn typos! [05:37] The-Croupier, not the same concept [05:37] Action: toastytoast eats all the typos [05:37] i think that was a spello :P [05:37] toastytoast: No! Those are typo-gnomes. They're people too. :( [05:37] lol [05:37] macavity: Grammaro. [05:37] wrongwordo? [05:37] but they taste so damn good [05:38] toastytoast: are they good with ketchup? [05:38] Action: toastytoast offers some to robinetd "want some: [05:38] Action: robinetd doesn't eat gnomes. Loves gnomes. [05:38] btw, why would anyone rob inetd? [05:38] Action: toastytoast offers some to macavity "how bout you?" [05:38] its not like it has something it wont just give out if you ask it [05:39] macavity: My last name followed by my first initial. robinet d. [05:39] that IS a cool IRL name [05:39] robinhood was the old fashined guy.. now we have robinet :P [05:40] Action: robinetd puts on his green hat and grabs his crossbow. [05:40] noooo [05:40] you should dress up like Neo [05:40] macavity: actually, in france... http://wordreference.com/fren/robinet [05:40] poor guy had some bad jokes at school [05:40] Matrix was 9 hours I'll never get back. [05:41] i just pretend that 2 and 3 doesnt exist [05:41] that is, everytime i am done with the original, i go back to the blue pill and ignore the facts ;-) [05:42] ^^ [05:42] same here :D [05:42] kinda like how i pretend all the pokemon games after gold/silver don't exist [05:42] lol [05:42] I had gold and ruby. Then I sold them. [05:42] s/after gold\/silver // [05:42] blue was my personal fav becasue i knew the glitch that got you mew :) [05:43] what [05:43] you are ACTUALLY discussing *pokemon*? [05:43] so [05:43] macavity: Nothing wrong with pokemon. [05:43] O_o [05:43] Action: robinetd hands macavity a mudkip. [05:43] and here i thought you were making some kind of analogy [05:44] nope [05:44] should i ahve been? [05:44] Action: macavity hands out some red pills [05:44] s/ahve/have/g [05:44] Action: robinetd screams WAR-TORTLE!!! and starts charging at macavity, due to the red being upsetting. [05:44] go watch "The Century of Self" on video.google.com [05:45] But more seriously, I've been considering getting into magic the gathering. Not sure if it's worth it though. [05:45] go watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw7qX_ZDNE [05:45] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [05:48] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [05:48] if you can slap a hooker you can slap chops its the same thing [05:50] If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. [05:50] lies [05:50] Action: robinetd throws a 50 pound pipe wrench towards toastytoast. [05:50] Action: toastytoast dodges [05:51] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:51] lol [05:52] I had a file called assignments.tar.gz deleted by mistake. How can I recover it? [05:52] waht fiel system are you sueing? [05:52] ext3 [05:53] Lyrae_ (n=Lyrae@220.163.84.243) joined ##slackware. [05:53] ls [05:53] extgrep i belive it is called.. but it takes a master degree in fsology to work it [05:53] i have seen soem data recover software for linux for single files [05:53] lf4: ls .: no such file for directory [05:53] altho you could try to sue ddrescue tho i've only used it for full hddds [05:53] foremost and scalpel are 2 options that recover files but not tar.gz [05:53] macavity: :P haha I was in the wrong ssh [05:54] a tar.gz is just a file.... [05:54] right [05:54] jesus dont you people sleep [05:54] nope, never [05:54] but scalpel and foremost don't recover tar.gz [05:54] sure once a year. [05:55] Action: lf4 looks at the clock... 4am it reads. :P [05:55] http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm maybe? [05:56] lol nvm [05:56] 11:56am :) [05:56] it says its for linux but both dls are .exes [05:56] Action: robinetd laughs at gentoo devs. [05:56] I might take a shotgun and shoot at my hard drive just to kill windows... [05:57] a Linux recovery tool which is only available in .exe format [05:57] hummm [05:57] Camarade_Tux: you cant kill windows only break them. :P [05:57] ravigehlot: prolly requires dos boot disk [05:57] lf4: it's already broken :) [05:57] lf4: we are killing it slowly ;-) [05:57] so just kill it a little more dead [05:57] Action: lf4 lights the thing on fire!!!! [05:57] you could also try this [05:57] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/best-liverescue-cd-for-ext3-data-recovery-417651/ [05:57] the redhat driver is pretty efficient at killing windows :) [05:58] the way to kill it is to refuse helping people with their windows problems :P [05:58] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html [05:58] problem with that is that it will not recover tar.gz [05:58] "windows? no man, nobody computer litterat use that shit anymore" :P [05:58] i find that very very odd [05:59] wow, windows managed to successfully "repair" itself :o [05:59] it will recover a .jpeg but not a .tar or .tar.gz?!? [05:59] yep [05:59] what the hell is up with that [05:59] not sure [05:59] they are both just regular files [05:59] im really feeling the complete lack of slackware in today's conversations. [06:00] Camarade_Tux: About that parsing issues I had I used sed and have been trying to replace the CRLF in the file with | so it would put all the numbers in the format I wanted yet I'm having an issue. It's just adding | to the end of the lines but not removing the LF. [06:00] so, if you rename the .tar.gz to .jpeg before you rm it, will it recover it? [06:00] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [06:00] hey guys, after defining a udev rule, do i need to restart any services before it is implemented? [06:00] lf4: what are you matching for in your sed command? [06:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [06:01] lyrae_girl (n=Lyrae@220.163.84.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:01] sed -e 's/\r$/|/' [06:01] Axius (n=ade@92.84.21.160) joined ##slackware. [06:01] morning [06:01] found a tool called ext3grep [06:01] evening [06:01] Camarade_Tux: I did a file on it and the line terminators is CRLF. [06:02] no wait.. its in the afternoon [06:02] lf4: $ matches the end of the line, not \r or \n [06:02] Camarade_Tux: Oh :/ my bad [06:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:13] guys, how do I restart dbus? [06:14] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:14] rc.messagebus [06:14] Camarade_Tux: How would I search for a CRLF in sed regex? [06:14] \r\n but I bet there is a catch [06:15] /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload [06:15] mancha: keep up :) [06:15] Yeah that's what I did :/ humm wonder what the issue is. [06:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [06:20] when installing slackware, one is presented with "groups" of software to choose from, I would like to uninstall the group PIM services...can I do this in such a large stroke or must I find each relevant program? [06:21] lf4: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/sed-how-do-you-replace-end-of-line-with-a-space-637013/#post3129173 ? (the two posts) [06:21] there is no pim services group.. [06:22] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Zordrak: wow, big X crash after reload of messagebus [06:23] Kaapa: yeah.. it doesnt like you takingf it away [06:23] best to init 3 before restarting messagebus [06:23] oh man.. i think i just invented the best cure ever to a sore throat :-) [06:24] macavity: Honey and tea. [06:24] macavity: which is? [06:24] or [06:24] Camarade_Tux: That's contagious, not cure. [06:24] 1/5th of orange juice and 4/5ths boiling water + two tsp of cane sugar [06:24] macavity: alcohol, drugs and tobaco? [06:24] robinetd: i dont like tea :P [06:25] Zordrak: all right, pick, say "X Games" for example, can i unistall the whole group or do i have to go one by one? [06:25] macavity: I love tea. I'm just too lazy to make it so I stick with water until someone else makes it. [06:25] it is probably just the idea of drinking something really freaking hot [06:25] rogersman: pkgtool [06:26] rogersman: or slackpkg [06:26] rogersman: or swaret [06:26] nooo [06:26] robinetd: nothxbai [06:26] Zordrak: ywkbai [06:27] robinetd: swaret???!!!! [06:27] we have a warent out for swarets arrest [06:27] robinetd: slackpkg is the right choice for what you want to do [06:27] isnt that ubuntu or something? or am i mistaken? [06:27] it has been condemned to death by lethal code rot [06:27] Zordrak: I don't want to do anything. [06:27] The-Croupier: Uh, no. ubuntu uses apt-get. [06:27] And dpkg. [06:27] bah [06:28] roger: slackpkg is the right choice for what you want to do [06:28] FFS [06:28] The-Croupier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaret [06:28] rogersman: ^^^ [06:28] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Zordrak: okay, I wasnt sure if slackpkg maintained a list of which programs belond to the groups defined for the slackware installation....cheers [06:28] Action: robinetd laughs like a maniac at Zordrak's misfortune. [06:28] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:28] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.29.70) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:28] anyone happen to know how to capture the output of a cmake style script and redirect it so that the 'make install' portion (it doesn't use make install, but you get my point) goes a specific place, for making a package from it? [06:28] gbowden (n=gbowden@91.Red-83-38-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] robinetd: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k <- ctrl-f package management tools [06:29] robinetd: misfortune: 1. a state of being in which one believes swaret is a viable tool for anything other than cleaning the rear of large desert-dwelling mammals [06:29] macavity: you mean /, right? -_- [06:30] Camarade_Tux: in ff and konq it is ctrl-f [06:30] ff accepts /, although it sucks [06:30] Camarade_Tux: if you are one of those vi/emacs browsing people, go RTFM on how it works locally ;-) [06:30] macavity: That just says that it's not officially supported in this channel. Doesn't censor me from saying swaret. [06:31] and wtf? "Luc was unable to continue working on the project due to a conflict with Patrick Volkerding, Slackware's developer." how could have he been prevented from doing anything? [06:31] _bruno (n=bruno@201.82.51.165) joined ##slackware. [06:31] macavity: nah, / works, even on windows :P [06:31] robinetd: technically no.. but since slackpkg has now entered mainline slackware, you can expect a mealstorm of shit comming your way if you suggest it :P [06:31] gbowden (n=gbowden@91.Red-83-38-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:32] macavity: I see. Thanks for looking out for me then. :D [06:32] holy boredom, batman [06:32] swaret doesnt get HALF the shit that slapt-get does though :P [06:33] as soon as someone suggests slapt-get or LP.net, this channel goes balistic [06:33] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:33] its kind of like when you forget the GNU/ part when not talking about the kernel in ##gnu :P [06:34] i'm wary of any "package manager" including slackpkg... [06:34] mancha: slackpkg works as advertised.. and it does not attempt to resolve dependencies :P [06:34] Azalyn (n=junon@206.47.201.123) joined ##slackware. [06:34] but slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all is pretty damn nice [06:35] && slackpkg install-new where necessary [06:35] i'm not interested in what it offers i guess [06:35] i like alienbob's dependency helper system [06:35] Axius (n=ade@92.84.21.160) left irc: "Leaving" [06:35] he includes a .dep which basically has the short name of all dependencies needed [06:36] i mirror on my local hard drive both rworkman and alienBOB 's repositories [06:36] I was going to extoll the virtues of using slapt to get 3rd party software like googleearth, qcad, and so on whilst blacklisting libraries, etc .... but I think I'll keep quiet ;-) [06:37] yeah if you did, you'd get slapt [06:37] rogersman: sbopkg is your freind [06:37] 8-) [06:37] sbopkg is the first thing i install when i am done with slackware box [06:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [06:37] after that comes yakuake and all the other goodies that i need [06:38] macavity: we have lots of friends (google,wikipedia...other-digital-ones..etc) and yet no friends...:( (real life ones) ;) [06:38] presumably with sbopkg, one still needs to download the source code from distributors site? [06:38] no [06:38] it is as automatic as slackpkg, it just works with slackbuilds.org instead of the official slackware mirrors [06:38] rogersman: sbo,synchs with slackbuilds [06:38] ;) [06:39] i am proud to say that it even has a few lines of my code in it :P [06:40] nice! ill have a look...rips most recent version of source code automatically? v cool [06:40] no, not most recent version of source code.. this is slackware :P [06:40] it gives you the latest *known good* version [06:41] which is held in a some local repository? [06:41] nope, it only syncs the .SlackBuild and README files [06:41] i see [06:41] then when you pick a package it downloads the source and compiles it [06:41] it even has build queues [06:41] just wondering from where it downloads the source [06:42] from upstream [06:42] directly [06:42] it even has wrappers for the nvidia build [06:43] so you can get true slackware packages of the nvidia blobs [06:43] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.114.50) joined ##slackware. [06:44] good one! so is this a sanctioned piece of software or will the mention of it's name enduce a riot? [06:44] slackbuilds.org is the official community package site for slackware [06:45] and sbopkg is the official front end for it [06:45] Pat even gives credit to slackbuilds.org in the docs [06:45] okay, im sold :-D [06:45] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:45] sbopkg.org [06:46] macavity: is sbo actually official now? [06:46] half [06:46] so, could we expect it to be in the next version default? ;) [06:47] no [06:47] wonder if it could be compatible with Kpackage... [06:47] Action: rogersman ducks [06:47] lol [06:47] no [06:47] kpackage is only compatible with compiled packages.. sbo is just a tar with a buildscript [06:47] macavity: there is no official community package site for Slackware [06:48] alienBOB: the officially unofficial community package site? [06:48] It's there but Pat does not have anything to do with it [06:48] alienBOB: i thought sbo was... [06:48] i know, but i saw him give cudos to it in one of the readmes [06:48] Pat benefits greatly form it, i think that counts [06:48] Action: The-Croupier feels wierd [06:48] s/form/from [06:49] The-Croupier: what do you mean with "sbo" ? [06:49] slackbuilds.org [06:49] in fact part of the store proceeds should go to SBo submitters [06:49] OK [06:49] SlackBuilds.Org [06:49] asbopkg - slackware for neds [06:49] Axius (n=fd@92.85.218.67) joined ##slackware. [06:49] mancha: bullshit [06:50] hah, that was predictably your response. at least my pointmade it, that minimizing sbo's role is also bullshit [06:50] mancha: im not one of them ...yet.. :( but i think some of them surely would loose interest if that happened [06:51] i perfectly like the devision between mainline and sbo [06:51] I do too [06:52] i do too [06:52] this whole "where do i add more repoes" thing from rpm/dep systems always get users in trouble [06:52] here we have two tools.. and if you use "the other one" you know who to ask if it breaks something :P [06:55] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:55] having an active and organized user community that contributes to a site like SBo is something you _want_ to have (imho). IT certainly makes slackware more attractive to the enduser who is not good at making his own stuff and who wants more than what comes default in the slack distrib [06:56] Yes, but that is different from stamping it "official" [06:56] There are more script repositoriess that are useful [06:56] and it is *no* coincidence that a lot of the stuff that is in SBo 12.2 makes it into officla 13.0 and so forth [06:57] oh yeh, if it is about calling it official, sure, only slackware.comand mirrors are official in that sense [06:57] ok, slackbuilds.org is not *the* official one.. but it is the one that patrick bothers to mention the existance of :P [06:58] i will remember the difference in the future [06:58] for me it's the official unofficial repo ;p [06:59] same here [06:59] s/official/officialy/ actually [07:00] speaking of official, what i the official policy regarding security patches? [07:00] pardon a humble layman, but does it really matter where you get your packages from? precompiled txz's, slackbuild, slacky.eu, alien debs... "Official" or otherwise, who gives a crap as long as your system runs fine and you got the software u want? [07:00] rogersman: of coulse itn matters [07:00] mancha: looking over the changelog should make that quite clear [07:00] as of today, its been 16 days since mozilla announced its malformed gif problem with ff and s-monkey. seamonkey is still vulnerable in 12.1 and ealier. [07:01] rogersman: because to have your system "Run right" you need to install stuff you trust and be abse to support it yourself [07:02] rogersman, the issue is trust in essence. using precompiled stuff means you trust, to a degree, whoever made those packages. the question then boils down to who is in that set of people ou trust...or does it not matter to you at all [07:02] i don't trust anyone but the official distrib for binaries, and i mean no_one [07:03] and i usually compile my own security sensitive stuff. but i am paranoid. [07:03] i *solely* use .SlackBuild based packages.. simply because an annoyingly high amount of 3rd party package creators dont compile on a clean install [07:03] so accedently they pick up funny dependencies because they have so much cruft installed [07:04] fair enough...tho by labelling something official, im not particularly inclined to trust it more...slackware, government or otherwise [07:04] however, with a slackbuild, if i have, say, upgraded ffmpeg locally, my new package will be build for this [07:04] The whole point about a slackbuild is you can *see* whats going on [07:04] and if you dont like it you can change it with bugger-all effort [07:05] i think slacky.eu sucks personally.. but theyre better than shitloads of other sources because the slackbuild is there [07:05] rogersman, the consensus is that sbo is a little more concerned with quality control thasn other places. to be honest, i've seenthe stuff slack.eu puts together and i think it's fine [07:05] so at least you can decide for yourself if it blows [07:05] rogersman: what would you trust more: a package that Patrick has honed to perfection over the years, or a package by some hotshot who installed nubibuntu for the first time two years ago? [07:05] I think slacky.eu has good-quality scripts and packages... but they compile them against their own Gnome which makes their packages less universally useful [07:06] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-wprlbgluerlkqhsr) left irc: [07:06] security through transparency...it does make sense...tho im not sure how many end users of linux give it too much thought...until their system gets f***ed I guess [07:06] exactly [07:06] however, peer review does tend to curb a lot of crap [07:06] and slackbuilds.org is as transparent as it gets [07:07] mancha: the danger with calling slackbuilds.org "official" is that people will think if a script comes from elsewhere it is less good, or less approved. Or that Pat has something to do with the site [07:07] the .SlackBuild scripts are template based, so if you have grokked on of them, you can generally read them all [sic] [07:07] rogers, that is why security should be transparent and i am against, for example, the lists that require you to embargo things until the vendors have all had weeks to muddle through it [07:08] alien, i hadn't considered that angle, yes calling it official does unfairly place it above other repositories i guess. [07:08] alienBOB: true that.. however, as you pointed out yourself, in a lot of the other cases there are "buts" [07:09] mancah: mm, quite a lot of the software i install is "aliened" deb packages from official repository [07:09] O_O [07:09] Action: rogersman ducks again [07:09] the best security framework in my opinion is near real-time disclosure of security problems and open discussion about remedies [07:09] ok, that is sure get get you into trouble sooner or later [07:09] mancha: that is generally how the open source development method works [07:10] i am happy to report i am not alone. in fact, linus recently said as much as well. [07:10] i wonder why.. [07:10] nothing beats the almighty FUBAR effect of "slapt-get --upgrade" tho :-D [07:10] i think they should deliver a ready made script that explits the unpatched version, along with the patch that fixes it [07:10] mac, you'd be surprised. i can't disclose some things i know for example, because i am bound by an agreement i made [07:10] Action: Zordrak invents the word Semifficial [07:10] that will make vendors get their act together :P [07:11] Zordrak++ [07:11] mancha: if you have signed an NDA you will, unfortunately, spend an eternity in hell [07:11] no pardon [07:11] no chance of appeal [07:11] i'm sorry on your behalf.... [07:12] ... but that is what comes from stapping your fellow men in the back ;-) [07:12] evo- (n=evo@HSI-KBW-091-089-116-122.hsi2.kabelbw.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:12] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:12] the issue is non-disclosure until vendors have had a chance to patch things [07:12] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [07:13] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:13] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:13] they will fix it MUCH faster without :P [07:13] Action: Zordrak is off for fish'n'chips again [07:13] i agree [07:13] Zordrak: can you bring some for me too? [07:13] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:13] mancha: and you always gotta expect that you were not the only one who found it [07:13] I prefer time-limited non disclosure: "This will be made public in two weeks" [07:13] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [07:14] mancha: in fact, always expect that this is being hored max by blackhats all over the world [07:14] gives the vendor a fighting chance.. but doesnt bow to their whims [07:14] see my above statement [07:14] it is *probably* already out there [07:15] the chinese aren't dumber than the rest of us.. but there are a hell of a lot more of them [07:15] stunix (i=1000@80.239.57.245) joined ##slackware. [07:15] indeed.. but if they didnt tell the writers.. a man of conscience should give them that short head-start [07:15] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:15] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:15] which by induction gives us that they arive to more 0day exploits than we do [07:15] macavity: induction fail [07:15] Yeah so since it might be in the wild, make sure it is and wide spread. [07:16] Nick change: caio -> Guest29585 [07:16] exactly.. that gets patches pushed within the hour [07:16] no it don't [07:16] this might even get the vendors to work more closely with upstream [07:16] macavity: the chinese population may be huge.. but the population with net access and good schooling is not necessarily in excess of the sum of the western world [07:16] so they dont have to shoehorn the patch to their own funny versions [07:16] it hasn't worked with seamonkey and slackware for example mac [07:17] we're on day 16 and counting (and not since the exploit was reported but since the vendor made his official announcement publicly) [07:17] mancha: i think slackware is fairly quick to get them out.. considering the size of the development team and the estimated userbase [07:17] thats not a factor [07:17] things are either safe or they're not [07:18] you don't factor in manpower there unless you're tryingto give an excuse :) [07:18] its very simple: if you want something more ridgit, go pay for RHEL [07:19] or use centos [07:19] arent they just a little bit behind RHEL? like half an hour? [07:19] something like that [07:20] considering what i pay for my slackware security service, i think i get *exceptionally* good bang for the buck ;-) [07:20] mancha: but you can really easily get the slackbuild, add the patch, make your own seamonkey package, it'd be ready in five minutes [07:21] my local ATM had crashed earlier this month...with a lovely windows 98 desktop shown instead....time to withdraw my savings I think [07:21] btw, what is the latest problem with the wet monkey*? [07:21] rogersman: time to make an expliot! [07:21] here's where i am coming from. i like slackware and would like to sees user base increase. two things i think that help greatly are a) an active user community that contibutes (thats why i like sbo and the like); and b) timely security patches [07:22] macavity: hehe ... Im want a bank that runs linux! [07:22] and how about c) software thats in every other distro that should be in Slackware [07:22] like..pam! [07:22] in any case, you can make your own package [07:22] rogersman: I don't. I want one that runs UNIX [07:22] rogersman: i dont.. i want a bank that runs OpenBSD [07:22] yes, agreed. pam needs to be included, no question. [07:22] straterra: well, depends on your point-of-view (but I'll probably want selinux soon) [07:22] i would much rather see time spent on making slakcware pam'd than tweaking the latest kde or the like [07:23] not sure kde takes a lot of time [07:23] I have friend that works for IT for HSBC....it is *scary* the kind of crap these guys are running [07:23] well, besides time spend compiling ;p [07:24] at this stage of the game, including pam is really a no-brainer [07:25] well, most things seem to run well without it [07:26] when we get to Samba4 we will need it [07:27] *If [07:27] oh, they are getting there pretty fast [07:27] the-baker (i=the-bake@blk-30-152-49.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:27] is it still in alpha? [07:27] where its been for what, 2 years? [07:28] they just got a windows server to accept and copy an Samba created AD [07:28] so now they can be used inter changeably [07:29] but it will probably be a lot faster than samba3 before they reach feature completion.. because of the nice EU rulings :-) [07:30] thats at least progress.. but im not holding my breath for a beta before 2011 [07:30] me neither [07:30] but the grand scheme of things, that is not far away [07:31] well, 2011 is in about a year :P [07:31] and expect MS to release a new and incompatible version in the next windows :D [07:31] ok, so i when i have jerked off 365 times more, i will get to play with Samba4 :P [07:31] windows7 has a few new "goodies" but they have already managed to tackle most of them [07:32] and it may get you to jerk a 366th time :) [07:32] my multimedia terminal on a flight crashed recently...it was a redhat box! [07:32] :P [07:32] they need tospread out a *currently compatible* beta [07:32] stunix_ (i=1000@80.239.57.245) joined ##slackware. [07:33] i thoguht that was cool and was wondering if i should try to get root before rebooting the thing. i ended up just drinking and falling asleep [07:33] i belive its the exchange part that is causing them trouble [07:33] the regular AD stuff is pretty much covered [07:33] so strip exchange out for a tagged release that explicitly doesnt support exchange [07:34] get it in the wild so people can report real world bugs in the code that *is* complete [07:34] exchange is the very reason why we want it [07:34] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:34] others.. such as here.. just want to get XP desktop management off AD [07:35] did anyone else bat an eyebrow at the news that HP bought 3com to the tune of $2.7 billion (in cash!) ? [07:35] you could go play with the source build.. maybe you cant the them to implemet --disable-exchange [07:35] and centralise LDAP away from windows [07:35] nope.. almost expect it [07:35] to hit cisco? [07:35] desperate for revenue streams, they buy out other companies when their price is low [07:36] easier to buy than develop [07:36] stunix (i=1000@80.239.57.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:37] stunix_ (i=1000@80.239.57.245) left irc: "I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel." [07:38] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [07:38] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [07:40] stunix_ \o/ [07:40] stunix (i=1000@80.239.57.245) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Rock and/or Roll [07:41] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:45] I'll take Rock please, bob. [07:45] morning [07:45] not anymore [07:46] 07:45 here [07:46] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Zordrak: Have you worked with dual screen much/at all? [07:46] how is it going in mumbai, khaladu_kj ? [07:46] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:47] nope. Most ive done is used nvidia-settings to poke output through VGA to a projector [07:47] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:47] jg71: its fine... everything is alright now .. [07:47] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:47] the-baker (i=the-bake@blk-30-152-49.eastlink.ca) left irc: [07:47] jg71: thanks for asking [07:48] well maybe you could give me some advice, i'd like to open a wine program on a different tty, which works fine though i'd also like to open up another wine program on the screen to the right of that one. any advice? [07:48] how do i set terminal tab name with file open in vim [07:49] none im afraid. never opened anything on anything other than the active desktop in the active X session on the active tty [07:49] well.. except for display exporting [07:49] from another box to mine [07:50] my terminal tab name always shows untitled ... i want it to show filename in vim .. [07:50] oh i see. it's a great thing. [07:50] what terminal are you using khaladu_kj ? [07:51] bash [07:51] what terminal emulator? [07:52] konsole, xfce4-terminal, tilda, etc. [07:52] mrselfpwn: x terminal emulator [07:52] xterm? [07:52] no not xterm [07:52] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:52] its xfce-terminal [07:52] okay [07:53] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Terminal then [07:53] khaladu_kj: It's strange, for me it set's titles for some things though not for others. [07:53] xterm is not tabbed [07:55] ffs.. im on to my 4th XP cd during install to get round file copy errors [07:56] so how to do it in xfce-terminal [07:56] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [07:58] mrselfpwn: what did you do to set title... anyway.. [07:58] Axius (n=fd@92.85.218.67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] khaladu_kj: i see in File -> prefferences -> general -> Dynamically-set title [08:00] khaladu_kj: there are four options, but none of them make sense to me... you can play with them and see if one of them suits you [08:00] i just have that set to "goes after initial title" [08:00] macavity: that is the title of terminal window [08:00] I didn't modify anything further [08:00] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [08:01] mrselfpwn: Is there any way to do it by editing some config file [08:02] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-189-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:39] stunix (i=1000@80.239.57.245) left irc: "I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel." [08:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-176.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [08:42] wow so silent [08:42] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] mrselfpwn: http://superuser.com/questions/42362/gnome-terminal-process-name-in-tab-title answer 0 in this worked for me [08:44] neat. did you use it as is or modify it? [08:45] khaladu_kj: ^ [08:45] _bruno (n=bruno@201.82.51.165) left irc: Client Quit [08:46] mrselfpwn: i added those 4 lines in my /home/user/.bashrc [08:46] mrselfpwn: as thy are.. no modifications [08:47] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80.123.51.147) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:47] aigon (n=jfo@92.85.222.26) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:48] khaladu_kj: I'm not seeing the change. :/ [08:49] It supposed to show the title in the tab? I vi .bashrc and the title still says untitled. [08:50] what is done in that code is setting the dynamically set title.. to it goes after the main window title also .. and its shown as the tab name also .. [08:52] hmm, what should I set Dynamically-set title option to in xfce terminal? [08:53] Karu (n=alch@84.50.106.181) left ##slackware. [08:53] mrselfpwn: uncheck "Run command as login shell" and select "Goes after initial title" for Dynamicall set title [08:55] Nick change: yht -> Yudha_HT [08:56] okay, did that. i still don't see a title in the tab. Maybe i'm confused or missing something here. [08:56] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-54-51.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Microsoft Patents The Sudo Command [08:58] old news [08:58] wtf is wrong w/ the U.S. Patent office [08:58] :O tecky [08:58] its been APPLIED for, not approved and its not Sudo command its the paradigm on which sudo works [08:58] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [08:59] Zordrak: sudo on windows won't have success though [08:59] metrofox: no.. its the whole UAC thincg [08:59] how will this affect us? [08:59] stunix (i=1000@80.239.63.102) joined ##slackware. [09:01] and your wrong Zordrak [09:01] Microsoft has been granted a patent for the sudo command, because apparently you can patent a command that goes back to the mainframe days as long as you explain that it's a "personalized version" with a GUI. [09:01] MS staff (like many others) will be Paid Per Patent.. so they will patent anything they can get away with. This will not be one of the successful ones [09:01] *effect [09:02] Zordrak: thanks for the info. interesting:) [09:02] Microsoft said that Open Source was un-American once. [09:03] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:04] Though now-a-days they are actually partnering with companies such as the one who makes ntfs-3g. [09:04] i hate you asus. I hate you i hate you i hate you i hate you [09:04] I guess it benifits them in some form or fasion. [09:04] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) joined ##slackware. [09:05] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [09:06] after upgrading seamonkey to v2.0, chmsee has this error: chmsee: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Anyone know how to resolve this? [09:06] read the changelog :) [09:07] libgtkembedmoz.so no longer exists [09:07] Zordrak: hardware issue with asus? [09:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-40-94.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:07] hitest: d/l fail [09:07] as per fuciking usual [09:08] driver d/l fail/ [09:08] ? [09:08] pebkac [09:08] aye [09:08] bummer [09:08] agreed fail [09:10] just a damn network driver.. finally got it [09:11] cant do a damn thing with the newly installed box until its net driver is loaded by usb [09:11] loaded by usb? [09:11] i was unaware a connector and bus type could load drivers [09:12] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) joined ##slackware. [09:12] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [09:13] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: "Leaving" [09:13] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) joined ##slackware. [09:17] and now comes the perpetual waiting of the SP3 install. i really should get hold af an SP3-slipstreamed disc [09:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-144-194-220.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [09:18] mugwort13 (n=chatzill@pool-71-248-54-228.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Hi all, trying to rebuild vim. However, I get the 'echo "FATAL: VIM package needed in $TMP" ' message from the slackbuild. What have I done wrong? [09:20] tsonev (n=tsonev@scsi.ucc.uni-sofia.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:20] wtf http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdotLinux/~3/ha8xxWCeJqE/Microsoft-Patents-Sudos-Behavior [09:20] >.< [09:20] :) [09:21] tsonev (n=tsonev@scsi.ucc.uni-sofia.bg) left irc: Client Quit [09:21] init[1]: kindly go up a page in your irc buffer [09:22] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) joined ##slackware. [09:22] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-282562.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Zordrak: well,i was away from my client and just binded to my bouncer :) ,well seem like somebody posted before me ,oh god why is that i'm the last one to know things :( [09:23] hello everyone [09:23] hi prashant_ [09:24] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:24] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. 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[09:27] fonseg: thats not part of the install [09:27] remove it manually if you choose to [09:28] fonseg, the package manager won't touch $HOME , those are configuration files stored by xfm [09:28] its effectively a user preferences directory [09:28] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:28] fonseg: i don't any os that does what you want with its packaging system or applications [09:30] ananke: release time! [09:30] actually, I should say that slackware's package manager RARELY touches $HOME [09:30] ananke: where my isos!? [09:30] ananke: :D [09:30] how to see how much GB ram do I have ? [09:30] tsonev: free -m [09:30] tsonev, "free -m" [09:31] 10x [09:31] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.149.247) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:32] um.. *technically* wouldnt that be$( free -g)? [09:33] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [09:33] I'm having an issue [09:33] my laptop has 4GB ram [09:33] does anyone know how can i sign multiple files without gpg prompt for passphrase for each file? [09:33] Yudha_HT (n=yht@125.161.49.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:33] but the slackware locates it as 2.8 [09:33] using 64bit might be better [09:33] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [09:34] you mean, to install the 64 bit slackware vesrion ? [09:34] yeah [09:34] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [09:35] otherwise you need a PAE enabled 32bit kernel for the OS to see all the amount of RAM you got [09:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:35] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:35] which is the hard way ? [09:35] but that is supposed to have a ~10% performance penalty. according to some measures [09:35] pae sucks, use 64-bit [09:36] sahk0: thats a bit of an unqualified statement dont you think? [09:36] is there a way to "upgrade" to 64 bit slackware ? [09:36] tsonev: no [09:36] Zordrak: which part? [09:36] tsonev: its a completely different architecture [09:36] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [09:36] 10% penalty according to some measures [09:37] ok 10x [09:38] Dominian: i'm hoping to see them on some fast mirrors soon :) [09:38] there's a performance increase with going 64-bit also, but it'll use a little more memory [09:38] but with 4GB, you won't notice :) [09:39] bigpaws_ (n=bigpaws@208.111.244.194) joined ##slackware. [09:39] ananke: you and I both [09:39] robinetd (n=robinetd@unaffiliated/robinetd) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] sagival: use gpg-agent [09:41] btw what is #slackman about ? 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[09:46] init[1]: i think the old-slackware-ppl i knew seem to have gone in various other channels ;) [09:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-208-111-244-194-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:46] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [09:47] The-Croupier: how old are they 70 ? :P [09:47] maybe ##slackware is getting too busy or too much new ppl...:( i dont know [09:47] init[1]: you know what i mean :p [09:47] yea [09:47] chee_ (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:47] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [09:48] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:48] btw where is old-fogie , nullboy, phrags,...etc...:( [09:48] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [09:48] see ^^ what i mean? [09:48] Well, #slackman was created by/for people who got banned from ##slackware iirc [09:48] I am banned from #slackman so I can not check that story now ;-) [09:49] meh [09:49] I have been trying to get into contact with Old_Fogie (I know his email address) but I do not get replies [09:49] Zordrak: i cant find a decent discussion i was reading recently regarding that. but the exact same thing could be said about what thrice` referred to as "performance increase" for 64bit. both are subjective and have to be studied on per use case bases. fwiw i ve never used pae so i wouldnt know. thats why i said supposed [09:49] phrags is busy with work [09:49] Nullboy I don't know [09:49] alienBOB: thanks [09:49] alienBOB: why are you banned there? [09:49] i speak with phrags whenever i see him [09:50] theres a lot of people being very quiet these days [09:50] old-fogie and nullboy i would like to re-see again ;) [09:50] but then some are just only awake later on in the day [09:50] Zordrak: thats true... but if you look back in the logs..they used to be here for most part of the day (well, my day) [09:51] alienBOB: yeah...why are you banned from slackman...what did you do? ;) [09:51] aye i know [09:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:51] naughty alienBOB :P [09:52] hitest: now that i *have* the chipset file.. i have to go got an unrar utility to get at it beacause the bastards rar it then zip it [09:52] and THEN only give you about 5k/sec to get it with [09:52] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] old-fogie,nullboy not on slackman [09:53] no.. we havent seen either of them in a long long time :-/ [09:53] and then, cos its nForce.. itll just BSOD anyway [09:53] rumor has it that nullboy is all ok, but i dont know anyone who has heard from Old_Fogie [09:56] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-230-194.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] macavity: yeah ... same here..;) [09:58] alienBOB: what did you do? :( [09:59] Action: init[1] Tommorow is init[1] birthday \o/ [09:59] The-Croupier: i ekpect its more a case of.. who did you ban from #slackware to make them have a little paddy and go create a new channel from which they could ban /you/ [09:59] tooly (n=tooly@e178170052.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:00] yay.. XPSP3 immediately followed by 203MB(!) of ms updates.. :( [10:00] Zordrak: xpisobuilder [10:01] I could install a 5 node slackware high availability cluster from scratch in the time it takes to install one xp box [10:01] macavity: praps [10:01] lol [10:03] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:04] hi everyone [10:05] right im off ... see you guys later on ( i hope) ;) [10:05] if you see any of those dudes say hi from me will you...;) [10:05] Anatol (n=Anatol@98.227.217.190) joined ##slackware. [10:05] anyone ;) [10:05] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:06] i need help in configuring sound in slackware 13 [10:07] tsonev (n=tsonev@scsi.ucc.uni-sofia.bg) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@scsi.ucc.uni-sofia.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [10:09] my audio device is not working in slackware 13. [10:09] did you run alsaconf, then make sure unmuted and save with alsactl store [10:09] how can I improve the slackware boot time ? [10:09] prashant_: did yu connect your speakers? did you turn the computer on? [10:10] tsonev: turn off things you dont need [10:10] tsonev: run a smaller kernel [10:10] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.79.157) joined ##slackware. [10:10] haldir_, yes, i ran alsaconf, and stored it, but it is of no use [10:10] tsonev: buy a planet and hurl it into the north sea [10:10] Anatol (n=Anatol@98.227.217.190) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [10:12] tsonev: grab your sister by the hair and slap her in the face until she buys you an ice cream [10:12] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-64-197.ssp.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] Zordrak, 0_0 [10:15] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166020227.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Zordrak:- how can i ask a question if i have'nt turned on my computer? [10:16] maybe youre telekinetic [10:17] or this is all just a dream [10:17] Nick change: NaCl -> NaCl_zombie [10:17] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:17] no, my sound drivers are really not working [10:18] _maxiwll_ar (n=_maxiwll@189.42.122.87) left irc: "Leaving" [10:19] did you unmute it in alsamixer? [10:19] tsonev: set up suspend2disk [10:19] macavity: yes, i unmuted all the channels [10:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [10:20] tsonev: other than that you will have to dig through all of the /etc/rc.d/rc.[4/6/K/M/S] scripts by hand and see what you can do about it [10:21] prashant_: what sound chip is it? [10:21] chmod a-x /etc/rc.d/rc.anything-you-dont-use [10:21] macavity: it's intel -hda [10:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:22] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:22] it is probably not.. it is probably a realtek which is *attached* to the Intel High Definition Audio bus [10:22] and this is where we run into trouble.. i dont know how to obtain the vendor ids of stuff connected to the HDA bus [10:23] lspci obviously does no good, as you only see the pci<->HDA bridge chip [10:23] Nick change: GammelSokk -> GammalSokk [10:23] lshw might be better [10:23] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:23] command not found [10:23] macavity: i don't know really [10:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:24] macavity: SBo [10:24] lsmod | grep realtek [10:24] ? [10:25] macavity: no output of grep [10:27] lsmod | grep snd [10:27] pastebin the output [10:27] macavity: lspci shows pci bridge:intel corporation 82801i ich9 family [10:28] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:28] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left ##slackware. [10:28] lshw is no good for this [10:29] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] macavity: ok i'm pastebining the output [10:29] prashant_: that is of no use... that is just the controller [10:29] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] Guest29585 (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:29] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:30] macavity: here it is - http://pastebin.com/m52e5bf6d [10:31] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.100.21) joined ##slackware. [10:32] i get unknown post id [10:32] did you miss the last letter? [10:33] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [10:33] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] macavity: it's http://pastebin.com/m52e5bf6d [10:35] i only see the output from your Ati card [10:35] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [10:35] it has an onboard sound gizmo for the hdmi channel [10:35] try modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek [10:36] macavity: ok [10:36] you can use - instead of _ if you like [10:36] modprobe is bright when it comes to that :P [10:36] then dmesg | tail [10:36] and see if you get any errors [10:37] macavity: hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x001fa000 [10:38] uhkay.. [10:38] The story with #slackman is that Sandman1 got so pissed that I was a ##slackware op (he got banned here for offensive behaviour) that he banned me from his #slackman channel after calling me all kinds of names [10:38] you can try and see with each of the ones in /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp/kernel/sound/pci/hda [10:39] but i suspect that google is your freind, and you need to pinpoint exactly what sound chip that is [10:39] there is probably someone in a gentoo forum who has a model like yours [10:39] macavity: i'm using dell studio 1555 laptop [10:39] i have never owned a dell in my life, so i am probably not the one to ask :P [10:40] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:41] prashant_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/dell-studio-1555-745983/ [10:41] ok, so one point for google, and *zero* points for you.. it was hit number 3 ;-) [10:41] macavity: it's Realtek ALC883 i think [10:42] options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6 [10:42] make a new file called /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and add the above line to it [10:43] then you probably need to reboot :P [10:43] as traversing backwards through all the modules with rmmod is a tedious task [10:44] afk [10:44] tsonev (n=tsonev@scsi.ucc.uni-sofia.bg) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:45] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:46] 'macavity: which line should i add? options one? [10:46] great news. i just found a solution to my poker game not loading with flash10. It was the only app that would not load correctly in 10. I had to create and edit /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and add the lines OverrideGPUValidation = 1 [10:46] WindowlessDisable = 1 [10:47] Just wanted to share. [10:48] macavity: ok, now i'm rebooting [10:48] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [10:53] <|mel|> I always wonder: "Is everyone happily using X?" [10:53] http://xkcd.com/196/ [10:53] mrselfpwn: thats great. we've all read xkcd. [10:53] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) joined ##slackware. [10:53] |mel|: it works as advertized here :P [10:54] spook: have you read that one? [10:54] macavity: i rebooted the system but no use [10:54] mk_ (n=00@187.89.114.237) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mrselfpwn: i've read all of them, twice. [10:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:54] oh well that's for those who haven't. [10:55] <|mel|> prashant_: Do you have a file named "asound.state" ? [10:55] macavity: let me see [10:55] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] macavity: yes its in /etc [10:56] it was mel who asked :P [10:56] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [10:56] lsmod | grep realtek? [10:57] macavity: no output of lsmod [10:57] bugger [10:58] and you made a new file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and copied the line i gave you? [10:58] macavity: yes, i did [10:58] then you probably need to go over http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/dell-studio-1555-745983/ for yourself.. i might have missed something [10:59] i just gave it a quick glance [10:59] macavity: ok [11:01] winter (i=q3@game.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:02] macavity: ok , i'm leaving now. i will see the link and then catchup with u later [11:02] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:04] w3b3r (n=tomasz@dynamic-78-8-64-197.ssp.dialog.net.pl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:06] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@190.177.164.189) joined ##slackware. [11:06] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-250.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.39.13) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:08] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:19] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-250.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:23] jhyx (i=be27cd51@gateway/web/freenode/x-xyfvksmkpvcacvjj) joined ##slackware. [11:23] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:25] _bruno (n=bruno@201.82.51.165) joined ##slackware. [11:26] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:33] hm [11:34] Does anyone have the issue where their laptop won't suspend or shutdown successfully? [11:34] cr3rzemjest (n=chatzill@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:34] `pm-suspend` brings it down.. then right back up. When this happens, i also know that shutdown will hang at "unmounting local filesystems" [11:34] can i use grub to install slackware from hdd? [11:35] cr3rzemjest: that makes no sense. [11:35] cr3rzemjest, what? [11:35] spook: it makes perfect sense [11:35] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A528.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:35] cr3rzemjest: no, it does not. [11:35] cr3rzemjest, not to the people who are supposed to be answering it. [11:35] i've downloaded amd64 dvd iso but i have no dvd [11:35] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.192.45) joined ##slackware. [11:35] what about a usb stick? [11:36] cr3rzemjest, grub has nothing to do with booting iso's [11:36] hiptobecubic^: it has everything to do [11:36] hiptobecubic^, there's a log [11:36] cr3rzemjest, you can try unetbootin or something similar [11:36] i can copy iso contents to a dir, and boot kernel from that iso [11:36] cr3rzemjest, that is no different than just installing the os [11:36] hiptobecubic^, /var/log/pm-suspend.log [11:37] slava_dp, investigating... [11:37] hiptobecubic^: now this makes no sense to me [11:37] cr3rzemjest: 00:35 < spook> what about a usb stick? [11:38] spook: but is there something wrong with hdd? [11:38] hiptobecubic^, you can also try getting the "suspend" package from SBo, it provides s2disk and friends. [11:38] cr3rzemjest: KISS [11:39] have debian -> boot it -> mount slackware dvd -> copy contents to /slack -> add entries in grub -> update grub -> reboot -> boot slack iso -> will that work? [11:39] cr3rzemjest, you can do it from hdd, i have before. the problem is that grub doesn't boot .iso as far as i know, which is what you originally said. If you want to dump the files into a grub-bootable filesystem and then try to boot that, sure, that should work. [11:39] cr3rzemjest, assuming you do it correctly, yes. [11:40] cr3rzemjest, look in /slack for the syslinux config that will tell you what to boot [11:40] by /slack i mean wherever you dump the cd [11:40] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:40] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:40] slava_dp, everything says 'success' except for this "/usr/lib64/pm-utils/pm-functions: line 259: echo: write error: Device or resource busy [11:40] " [11:41] let me try susp-resume again. brb [11:41] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [11:42] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [11:42] gtg... tell hiptobecubic i left. [11:42] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:42] ok. now, (i've never installed slackware before[ok maybe once]) is there a way to point out the source of packages during install[amd64dvd]? because e.g. zenwalk looks in /cdrom and "normal" debian also scans scsi drive (unless it's a usb stick version) [11:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Same problem. [11:43] http://dpaste.com/119633/ [11:43] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:43] cr3rzemjest, during the install screen, you have a chance to point it at a pre-mounted directory [11:44] yes there is [11:44] I use this, personally. I have the tree on my home partition, and before entering the installer, I mount my home partition to "/install_from_me" or some directory I create manually, and point the installer there [11:44] oops theres --more-- [11:44] hiptobecubic, what happens if you 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' ? [11:44] hmmm it looks like dmesg has a stack trace in it... http://vpaste.net/dltt2 [11:45] dive, that file currently has 'mem disk' in it [11:45] cr3rzemjest: just another great thing about Slackware. You can specify exactly where to install from. [11:45] hiptobecubic, right so 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' [11:46] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Hey i get an error while recording video with wxCam [11:46] dive, failed suspend... error= "echo: write error: Device or resource busy" [11:47] that /dev/dsp can't be opened, but as i see /dev/dsp doesn't exist :S [11:47] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:47] acidtripper, you need oss support OR use aoss [11:47] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:47] `aoss wxcam` [11:47] ok. imma reboot mah laptz0r [11:47] cr3rzemjest (n=chatzill@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090920160420]" [11:48] Nick change: sidmario -> Guest59504 [11:48] hiptobecubic, not sure, sounds like an acpi issue. Try rebooting and the issue the command again (before doing any pm-utils stuff) [11:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:49] if i reboot, it will work for awhile. I haven't been able to isolate whatever triggers this. [11:49] hiptobecubic, so installing alsa-oss must solve the problem? [11:50] acidtripper, perhaps? I don't know, I build my own kernel and just added alsa-oss compat [11:50] i cant remember if a added it [11:50] acidtripper, usualloy alsa-oss is installed by default and you just need modprobe the module [11:50] lol, as i see is not bui [11:50] acidtripper, custom kernel? [11:50] lt as module [11:51] yes, but with pat .confi [11:51] g [11:51] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] belnet ftp is down :S [11:52] acidtripper, try modprobing snd_seq_oss snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss [11:53] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:53] (/lib/modules/2.6.31.6/kernel/sound/core/seq/oss/snd-seq-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg [11:54] acidtripper, oh jesus. yes [11:54] acidtripper, i just had all this in my face after trying to install the latest alsa from alsa-project ftp [11:54] and how did you solve it? [11:54] acidtripper, my only solution was to just use the alsa in the kernel (which is only one bugfix version behind @ 1.0.20) [11:54] acidtripper, i couldn't get it to insert [11:55] so you compiled built in on kernel? [11:55] did you try installing alsa-oss package? [11:56] acidtripper, no because i wasn't using pat's kernel or anything. I just did 'make menuconfig' and turned alsa and alsa-oss on from there. then did make modules && make modules_install [11:56] but you selected as built in or module? [11:56] then you can either reboot, or modprobe all the sound modules yourself.. or run rc.alsa or rc.modules, whichever it is that calls them [11:57] module, but it shouldn't matter if you aren't upgrading them, no? [11:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:57] acidtripper, i thought about it and i'm sure i'll be updating the kernel anyway by the time I'm ready to upgrade alsa [11:58] as i see in my kernel oss-pcm oss-mixer is built as module [11:58] oss-sequencer-api is built in and cant be selected as module [11:58] builtin... to the module [11:58] you can find /dev/dsp on your pc? [11:59] yes [11:59] as built in i refer to * [11:59] not to M [11:59] can you see if you have alsa-oss package installed? [11:59] acidtripper, yes but if it's a submenu to a module, then it will be in the module not the kernel core. otherwise my understanding of the universe is impossible. [12:00] acidtripper, what's the symbol? [12:00] acidtripper, CONFIG_somethingsomething [12:01] ee? i get into menuconfig and alsa-oss is as built as module, [12:01] sequencer built on kernel [12:01] push "?" [12:01] mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/slackpkg.10006': Too many links [12:01] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.192.45) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:01] ?? [12:02] chee, how many things are in your tmp dir? [12:02] e?? [12:02] acidtripper, lol what? [12:02] do you have alsa-oss installed? [12:02] hiptobecubic, maybe a million [12:02] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.145) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:02] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:02] hiptobecubic, i should probably clear it out, hm? [12:03] acidtripper, the options that you see in menuconfig correspond to variables in the file ".config". If you tell me what symbol "alsa-oss" is, i can tell you what it's set to [12:03] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.145) joined ##slackware. [12:03] acidtripper, by pushing "?" or maybe it's 'h' while the setting in question is highlighted, you'll see some description of it including that symbol name [12:03] chee, yes, maybe it has too many links :) [12:03] how i see what symbol is? [12:03] ok [12:04] hiptobecubic, :D [12:04] acidtripper, it will be CONFIG_SND_something [12:04] i think [12:05] CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS [12:05] module [12:05] hiptobecubic, that helped ! [12:05] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@94.142.246.84) left irc: Client Quit [12:06] modprobe snd_pcm_oss added /dev/dsp [12:06] hiptobecubic, i'm not sure what the max is, but i imagine you found it. [12:06] there you go [12:06] now `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` :D [12:06] YEA!!! [12:07] :D [12:07] i can record sound now :P [12:07] space noise [12:07] it worked! thanks hiptobecubic [12:07] acidtripper, for things that need /dev/dsp when you don't have it, you can usually use the wrapper "aoss" which emulates it fine. [12:07] it will autoload when booting up? or i must add it so anu daemon? [12:07] i tried aoss but didn't work for me [12:08] acidtripper, not sure, check rc.modules? [12:08] lets see [12:08] acidtripper, or you can put it in rc.local [12:08] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:29f) joined ##slackware. [12:08] acidtripper, also don't forget to edit rc.modules.local instead of rc.modules so you don't lose it at next update [12:08] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [12:09] but sometimes is not necessary, i really don't know in which way but it starts modules i modprobe on startup without taochong anything [12:09] jhyx (i=be27cd51@gateway/web/freenode/x-xyfvksmkpvcacvjj) left irc: Ping timeout: 181 seconds [12:09] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) joined ##slackware. [12:10] arcaos_ (n=arcaos@190.177.164.189) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:11] acidtripper, there are a lot of things that are modprobed during boot, whether or not you have them set up, then you set them up and magically they are there at next boot [12:11] yes, but what i mean is that sometimes i modprobe some modules and i don't need to add it to rc.modules.. [12:12] they modprobe at startup without modifing [12:12] acidtripper, and i'm saying that sometimes they are already in there and just not succeeding until you do something before hand [12:13] anyway i added it to rc.modules ;) [12:13] acidtripper, not a bad idea [12:13] also cp rc.modules{,.local} [12:13] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] cough** modprobe.d**cough [12:13] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:14] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.192.45) joined ##slackware. [12:14] lol [12:14] so rc.modules is depreceated? [12:16] no, rc.modules shows which modules to load, and items in /etc/modprobe.d/ tells modprobe the options (if any) to use when modprobing them [12:16] hello everyone [12:16] tnaks thrice` [12:17] so, you should only need to use modprobe.d/ if you need to load a module with a specific option or attribute [12:17] if plain 'ol "modprobe module" is sufficient, rc.modules{,.local} is appropriate [12:18] you can load modules just fine from modprobe.d [12:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:18] so modprobing a module must start it at boot? [12:18] without adding it to rc.modules? [12:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [12:18] please help me to configure my audio in slackware 13 [12:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:19] if the system component needs a module to run, it'll modprobe it on its own. The exception is if you use a generic kernel, and then need a couple modules before the disk is mounted (like the file system) [12:19] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:19] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.79.157) left ##slackware. [12:19] but, really, it's rare that you even need to touch rc.modules, unless you have something unusual that udev doesn't load on its own [12:20] I need help to configure my audio in slackware 13 [12:20] XGizzmo, sure, but it's really not appropriate [12:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [12:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:21] prashant_: you ran alsaconf? [12:21] the main goal of modprobe.d is for overriding modprobe behavior for special requirements [12:21] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:22] skysong: yes , i did. i unmuted all the channels, but it's of no use [12:25] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [12:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host81-155-240-234.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:31] please help me to configure my audio in slackware 13. [12:31] prashant_, what error? [12:31] alsaconf? [12:32] acidtripper: yes , i did. i unmuted all the channels, but it's of no use [12:33] acidtripper: it configures the card but it do not works [12:33] what card? [12:33] intel? [12:34] acidtripper: yes , intel -hda ich9 family. [12:34] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] same here, maybe upgrading drivers sole the problem [12:35] or compiling new kernel with alsa as module [12:35] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:35] acidtripper: you tried upgrading drivers? [12:35] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) joined ##slackware. [12:35] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4525798.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:35] yes, really i don't know how i fixed it, but i recompilled kernel modules [12:35] and worked [12:36] hello boys & girls [12:36] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.196.31.246) left irc: Client Quit [12:36] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] or compilled sources and worked [12:36] 21a may solve the problem [12:36] but start with modules [12:37] acidtripper: can u tell me how. i'm kind of new to linux [12:37] Wiren (n=aad@80.13.114.50) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:37] www.google.com "build kernel slackware" [12:37] are you using std kernel? 2.6.29.6? [12:38] $uname -a [12:38] acidtripper: yes, 2.6.29.6 [12:39] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:39] search on google build kernel oldconfig [12:40] or something like that [12:40] acidtripper : ok [12:40] it explains howto build a kernel with .config provided by slackware [12:40] so it will be the same as standard kernel but new, and then you can remove what's unnecessary for you [12:40] http://muaythaimaster74.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-compile-slackware-kernel.html [12:41] pthreat (i=c8319e97@gateway/web/freenode/x-vooucefwaoonbumu) joined ##slackware. [12:41] strangely, building my own kernel never worked for me.. [12:41] skysong, cool! [12:41] and since sw doesn't support the intel-hda, im afraid ill have to skip installation:/ [12:41] sometimes i forgot to set some importat things and got kernel panic [12:41] how you did to make intel-hda? [12:41] really i don't know the exact fix [12:42] i always fixed modifing several things [12:42] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:42] wow man im triping on acid [12:42] i dont know, im running sabayon right now and debian on my other box, both distros supported my soundcard out of the box [12:42] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] acidtripper: snd_intel_hda works fine here [12:42] mine is supported [12:42] NaCl_zombie: without having to recompile the kernel? [12:42] but at begining i couldn't hear anything [12:43] skysong: same here also, i used sabayon and audio worked fine [12:43] Nick change: NaCl_zombie -> NaCl [12:43] skysong: yes [12:43] run pkgtool and tell me what you'r alsa version [12:43] oh cool [12:43] your [12:43] then ill give it a try. My last slackware experience was with sw 11 if im not mistaken [12:44] acidtripper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJEw3A_QO9o tripin' [12:44] acidtripper: so, what should i do? shall i recompile the kernel? [12:44] i saw that video several times :P [12:45] i very small animal to use lsd [12:45] my gosh [12:45] skysong: so, what should i do? shall i recompile the kernel? [12:46] yes, would be a good idea to upgrade it [12:46] download latest stable kernel from kernel.org [12:46] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] acidtripper: ok [12:47] anyone knows if there's a 'dummy user'-style manual on building aufs? [12:47] aufs? [12:47] yep [12:48] aufs2, to be precise [12:48] Ok something that might be relevant: "intel-hda" is not a chipset/soundcard but a specification, and manufacturers can add their own chips, in addition to the intel interface. So there's a lot of implementations, and not all of them are equally well-supported. [12:48] offsite manual contains japanese english which can be hard to decode ^) [12:48] This is why some work fine and others don't work that well. [12:50] Rint (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4H8ihMJhow&feature=related [12:50] Rint (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] acidtripper: should i choose 2.6.31.tar.bz2? [12:51] acidtripper: that you? :p [12:52] nope :P [12:52] 31.6 [12:52] Shit i feel like dancing! [12:52] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: "shit nr2" [12:53] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [12:53] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-36-27.A204.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [12:54] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:57] Nick change: pthreat -> Kanjouteki [12:58] Nick change: Kanjouteki -> pthreat [12:58] pthreat: how much do you charge for a lap dance? :P [12:58] I have a headset usb Logitech. Slackware64-current have found them as a divice and I have load the module for usb-audio, but I can not hear for usb headset [12:59] any idea? [12:59] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:59] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:00] macavity: haha [13:00] macavity: for you it's free baby! [13:00] woohoo! [13:00] Action: macavity wins [13:00] you a 22 yo blonde with big titties, right? [13:01] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [13:01] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:01] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:01] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:02] no, Im a fat nerd with a big ass and 40 inches down my pants, so i guess is not your lucky day :P [13:02] Action: macavity loses [13:03] 40 inches?.. then i can just kick you roughtly around the knee and you will go down like a cheerleader on prom night :P [13:03] you can have it if you stille want to [13:03] slackpkg upgrade cup_size [13:03] :p [13:03] lol [13:03] mancha: please add mantits to /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [13:04] hah [13:04] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:04] ok.. we ARE geeks :P [13:04] hey hey hey.. i'm a dork [13:04] we know :P [13:04] @ macavity [13:04] you need to come up with at least one star trek joke to advance to geek [13:05] then you need to come up with at least one way of expressing something from real life (not that you are required to have one) in shell commands to advance to nerd [13:05] hmm.... ok.. well i never really watch the show.. so guess i'm out [13:05] when you reach level 100 nerd you get plot amour [13:06] -\\// [13:06] heh, kde's dictionary plasmoid shows geek as: a carnival performer who does disgusting acts or a person with an unusual or odd personality [13:06] does that at ALL look like the Vulcan salute to you guys? [13:06] level up! [13:06] yeah.. the code is easy actually [13:06] tux_ (n=tux@79.119.191.187) joined ##slackware. [13:06] _\\// [13:06] is probably better [13:06] tux_ (n=tux@79.119.191.187) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] fire|bird: with an "unusual or odd personality" that has it [13:06] i'd like to klingon to those titties <- would that count maybe? [13:07] fire|bird: what does it have to say about nerds? [13:07] an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or studying excessively [13:07] macavity: ^^^ [13:07] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-68-197.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:07] I C++ what you're saying [13:08] toastytoast: possibly, yes, but to be sure, go ask a girl and find out. ;) [13:08] i C perls [13:08] I'll go ls -R on / your body [13:08] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Seriously guys.... the puns are really.. *really* bad. [13:08] Alan_Hicks: it me [13:08] hit me* [13:09] pthreat: be careful what you wish for. [13:09] i'd liek to check her filesystem ;) [13:09] I could kick you? [13:09] Alan_Hicks: hit me with a pun ! [13:09] s/kick/ban/ ;) [13:09] wth [13:09] :P [13:09] yeah.. i have work to do.. so ^A ^D [13:09] fire|bird: we need to sue some people over that! [13:09] being a nerd is cool! [13:10] or a complete fool [13:10] Action: pthreat raps [13:10] macavity: yeah, who shall be our lawyer? [13:10] Eben Moglen... [13:10] it should read "a person with an outspoken aptitude and love of the finer arts in the technical feilds" [13:11] macavity: agreed. :) [13:11] i need a grammer nerd to look it over though [13:11] i will kill my cd/dvd drive [13:11] you mean coffee holder? [13:11] archiac_: no, a retractable coffee holder. [13:11] acidtripper: just cdparanoia on a severely broken disk, and nature will take its course.... [13:11] lol [13:12] i did that once [13:12] oh yes... my quit retracting.. it's just a mug holder now [13:12] cdparanoia? [13:12] how cdparanoia works? [13:12] I think he destroyed the fuck out the dvd drive [13:12] acidtripper: man cdparanoia [13:12] root@rogue:/etc/modprobe.d# man -k cdparanoia [13:12] cdparanoia 10.2 (Paranoia release III) [] (1) - an audio CD reading utility which includes extra data verification features [13:12] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4525798.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:12] macavity: i thought you were making a pun [13:12] it make what ever cd you put paranoid... [13:12] i mean how is the way to use it? [13:13] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:13] Guest7921 (n=si@60-242-50-107.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: [13:13] you put in an audiocd [13:13] then you instruct cdparanoia to rip it [13:13] and execute.... du! LOL [13:13] it's a dvd what im ripping [13:13] ... and almost no matter how banged up that disc is, cdparanoia *will* get good sound of it [13:13] I need another internet, mine is just not right. [13:13] at the cost of the lifetime of you drive..... [13:13] macavity, it's a dvd [13:14] no matter? [13:14] dvd film [13:14] acidtripper: then cdparanoia won't work. [13:14] no, it only does RedBook audio [13:14] fuck OFF [13:14] it's blockbuster dvd Papillon [13:14] but you said you wanted to kill your drive [13:14] and cdparanoia WILL do that if you let it run for long enough [13:15] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-72.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:15] blockbuster dvds are busted [13:15] One time I watched an Italian movie, it was so bad that when it ended, I took a shit on the dvd and threw it to the streets [13:15] cdparanoia kill drives? [13:15] :P [13:15] acidtripper: It can if you let it keep going, and going, and going. [13:15] if the source disk has been kicked across a sandy floor a couple of times, then yes [13:16] it *refuses* to give up on reading the tracks [13:16] but what's rare is that dvd isn't so scratched [13:16] only superficial scratchs [13:17] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-72.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [13:17] is acid rip any good? [13:17] but if 1/10th of a milimeter is deep enough, and that happen to be in the TOC, then you are screwed [13:17] mmm can be becouse that scratchs are circular? [13:17] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] macavity, ? [13:19] explain that a little bit [13:19] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4525798.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:19] hello [13:19] hello [13:20] I follow this instructions for usb logitech headset http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/usb-headset-issue-716669/ [13:20] but no dice [13:20] still I can not have sound from usb [13:20] any idea? [13:20] you're screwed [13:20] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [13:20] acqhello (n=harry@212.183.134.131) joined ##slackware. [13:20] can you get sound from usb? [13:20] wtf logitech strange ideas [13:21] acidtripper: yes I did have sound but from a restart did not had [13:21] i'm joking. let me take a look. [13:21] why' tha fuck there is a fucking connector for sound [13:21] yes... but the modules will need to be installed AND you'll need to change the sound settings [13:21] to use usb :P [13:21] archiac_: snd-usb-audio is loaded [13:21] is better quality? [13:21] and from xfce4-mixer i have choose the logitech [13:22] acidtripper: much better [13:22] yskapell: also, make sure any conflicting modules are blacklisted. [13:22] conflicting modules?? like what? [13:22] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] which is the way to blacklist modules in slack? [13:22] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF5A7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] modprobe !module? [13:22] I don't know, i'm just maybe suggesting a look. [13:23] /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf [13:23] find /etc -name "*blacklist*" [13:23] aah [13:23] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:23] i know where is the blacklist for module [13:23] ad them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [13:23] i beleive [13:23] but what modules to blacklist? [13:24] did you try the cat /proc/asound/cards [13:24] conflicting ones :P [13:24] that will show you the name and assigned number for each sound card [13:24] I did and found 0 as intel and 1 as usb [13:24] then try alsamixer -c1 [13:25] from there you shoudl be ab=le to set volume of everyhting it is prolly all muted [13:25] yskapell: did you try alsaconf (i haven't had time to look at your link.) [13:25] then you should be able to get sound and such [13:25] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] it is not mute from alsamixer [13:26] alsaconf is always good to run in this case, then use alsamixer [13:26] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] from alsaconf I get only the intel [13:27] mmm [13:28] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:28] then alsa isnt' seeing your card [13:28] <= master of the obvious [13:28] well didn't it bvring up volume control and stuff whey ou did alsamixer -c1 [13:29] cuz if it did then alsa is seeing it [13:29] Axius (n=fd@92.84.15.213) joined ##slackware. [13:29] yskapell: from my understanding you have two sound cards and this is an addon soud device? [13:29] whihc is why alsaconf not seeing it is strange [13:29] toastytoast: alsamixer -c1 shows the usb and it is not mute nad volume sound is 100% [13:30] could it be a bios setting? [13:30] no I have one sound card and I want to use the usb headset [13:30] it might be the program yuou are sueing isn't outputting to the ehadset [13:30] but I can not have sound from that [13:30] yskapell: in alsamixer goto your input section [13:31] wtf?? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091111094923390 [13:31] toastytoast: It is not possible because 6 days ago I use dthe same with logitech and I had sound [13:31] then make sure that the appropriate device is select for mic. [13:31] macavity you might be particularly incensed by that.... [13:31] what might have happened [13:31] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:31] usually with the a headset or headphones , they work when you mute front in alsamixer [13:31] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [13:31] is that the device nyumber changed like in my computer i have two sound cards onboard and pci [13:31] hey [13:31] i missed the whole conversation , sorry if im completely off [13:32] yskapell: is it the mic or earphones or both that don't work? [13:32] i setted /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss on rc.modules, but it doesn't load :S [13:32] sometimes the pci one whihc i use more often is device 0 someitme it is device 1 [13:32] acidtripper: what problem are you having? [13:33] mancha: whats new, they can patent my underwear for all i care [13:33] it doesn't load snd_pcm_oss on boot [13:33] mrselfpwn: the earphones [13:33] make a fiel called .asoundrc in your home directory and add something like this to it pcm.!default{ type hw card 1} ctl.!default{ type hw card 1} [13:33] well ok , maybe as long as I can wear it without charge [13:33] acidtripper: you did modprobe -a ? [13:33] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:33] insmod (modulename) [13:33] nope [13:34] only added these line to rc.modules /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss [13:34] tooly (n=tooly@e178170052.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [13:34] if the wound works with the heqd set then it is becasue that sets shoudl set the head set to your default sound device [13:34] sound* [13:34] yskapell: okay, double double check (this is granted that linux is seeing your device) that in alsamixer you aren't muted anywhere [13:34] cr3_ (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:35] why? [13:35] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.148.219) joined ##slackware. [13:35] so i've got slackware installed yay [13:35] that must load module at startup [13:35] i know i sound like bofh though, really I overlook stuff sometimes myself. [13:35] back :) [13:35] mrselfpwn: I did double check [13:35] and it's 64 bit! am i cool? [13:35] _bruno (n=bruno@201.82.51.165) left irc: [13:35] for usb eadet it is not mute [13:35] mrselfpwn, ? why rc.modules dosn't load my module at startup :p [13:36] LUNCH TIME.... [13:36] acidtripper: are you asking me ? [13:36] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:36] yes [13:36] acidtripper: I don't know. That's why it's your problem. [13:36] yskapell: did you try my suggestion [13:36] ;P [13:37] it's my problem... but it's not supposed to run rc.modules on startup if it's set executable and load the modules? [13:37] toastytoast: send me again what I have to write in the .asound file [13:37] acidtripper: honestly, you can likely find the answer for yourself if you think. [13:37] cr3_, you're very cool indeed. [13:37] pcm.!default{ type hw card 1} ctl.!default{ type hw card 1} [13:38] thanks [13:38] what i think is if i put a module in rc.modules that module must be loaded [13:38] and after that restart the alsa? [13:38] that's what i understand [13:38] that is what i ahev to do to set my second sound card to my default [13:38] Linux is like sand, if you squeeze it too hard it all falls through your fingers. [13:38] Nick change: cr3_ -> cr3rzemjest [13:38] no you shouldn't need to [13:39] that should set the head set to the default sound device if that works then it is liek is aid the aps youa re sueing aren't oputputting to the correct sound device [13:39] pthreat (i=c8319e97@gateway/web/freenode/x-vooucefwaoonbumu) left ##slackware. [13:39] useing* [13:39] acidtripper: you must find what is stopping it. it's to hard for someone to diagnose that problem without actually being on your computer. [13:39] toastytoast: all in one line? [13:39] no [13:39] maybe is blacklisted... [13:40] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:40] and nope, is not blacklisted [13:41] pcm.!default{\n type hw\n card 1\n }\n ctl.!default{\n type hw\n card 1\n} [13:41] thats hwo i ahve mine written up [13:41] acidtripper, only bull dogs are ;-) [13:41] the \]n signifigin new lines [13:41] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-68-197.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [13:41] acidtripper: this is default kernel? [13:41] \n* [13:42] default config, kernel 2.6.31.6 [13:43] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] that is not the default kernel [13:43] and liek i said if that5 does work then it is becassue the app you are sueing isn't outputting to the correct sound device [13:43] hello world [13:43] use* [13:43] more typos then i useually make [13:43] hello Nigromante [13:43] :( [13:43] hi Nigromante [13:44] hi... [13:44] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] toastytoast, it's ok as long as it's still readable ;-) [13:44] nope, i told you default config kernel 2.6.31.6 [13:44] acidtripper: again not discouraging you from using custom settings though there are too many variables for us to consider without being on your computer. [13:44] well bbialb i need soemthign to eat [13:45] atleast for me anyway [13:45] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [13:45] as i see rc.modules is a link to rc.modules-2.6.29.6 [13:45] acidtripper: that is okay [13:46] so? [13:46] the rc.modules is kind of a guessing game on slackware [13:46] if you look deeper the actual run script points to your latest kernel [13:46] rc.modules -> rc.modules-2.6.29.6 [13:46] in /etc/asound.conf found the type of headset as bluetooth... [13:46] acidtripper: look at the file on the inside [13:47] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.68.189) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:47] may be that is the problem [13:47] im looking and it must work, [13:47] right [13:47] lol [13:47] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:47] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] #Alsa OSS [13:47] Linux arch-host 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 23 11:12:58 CEST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [13:47] /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss [13:48] outputs what? [13:48] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.192.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:48] nothing [13:48] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.50) joined ##slackware. [13:48] when i do modprobe snd_pcm_oss load the module and works fine [13:49] well no shit [13:49] but the problem is that rc.modules dosn't start it at startup [13:49] it's load on demand [13:49] i have to start it every time i boot :S [13:49] when a program starts that needs it, then it loads up [13:49] no, couse i started wxcam and didn't lod it [13:49] load* [13:49] kernal autoloading [13:50] i had to load it by hand [13:50] try something else acidtripper and see if it loads [13:50] try firefox [13:50] hey is anyone using the gnome slack build? , just wonder if you would still be going through the kde login screen if you , or fif the gsb team redo the entire enviorment? [13:50] some sound in ff [13:50] acidtripper: try putting it in rc.local [13:50] snd_pcm_oss is loaded explicitely somewhere in the rc files (rc.alsa?) [13:50] mm... doing modprobe -a must add it to startup? [13:50] lets see Camarade_Tux [13:50] rc.local will work though it shouldn't be needed [13:51] acidtripper: didn't I mention modprobe -a ? [13:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "RAH" [13:51] yes [13:51] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:51] but that must added to boottime? [13:51] i dont have rc.alsa [13:51] in here pcm.headset { type bluetooth } [13:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:51] but maybe i canc reate a daemon and make it executable [13:51] have you run alsaconf? [13:51] yes, [13:51] i replace bluetooth with usb?? [13:52] Action: mrselfpwn gives the floor to Camarade_Tux [13:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:53] GREAT!!! now i dont have sound [13:53] after executing alsaconf [13:53] serves you right [13:53] indeed [13:53] fuck!! [13:54] Starting sound driver: snd-hda-intel done [13:54] /usr//sbin/alsactl: load_state:1608: No soundcards found... [13:54] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [13:54] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:54] gotta love wikipedia ^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_mama [13:55] lareputisimamadrequelosremilpario [13:55] first two words made me lol [13:55] bb [13:55] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] LITB (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:56] umm... wtf? when i su -l to root and run xorgsetup it says"only root can configure X". oh noe [13:56] what is -l? [13:56] on that wiki ^^ [13:56] i think same as - [13:56] i *think* ?? [13:56] sometimes [13:57] therfore you are. [13:57] when it doesnt hurt my head [13:57] what is - [13:57] man su [13:57] actually i don't know, i always do -l [13:57] is a crazy girl [13:57] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:57] -l and - are the same [13:58] xsamurai: since when [13:58] copy environment variables as i remember and stuff [13:58] important things [13:58] snL20: dunno since it states in the man page [13:59] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.68.32) joined ##slackware. [13:59] -l use a long listing format no - in the manpage [13:59] just su -, try that [13:59] -, -l, --login "Provide an environment similar to what the user would expect had the user logged in directly " [13:59] When - is used, it must be specified as the last su option. The other forms (-l and --login) do not have this restriction. [13:59] # xorgsetup --help [13:59] Only root can configure X. [13:59] wat [13:59] snL20: reading does suck [14:00] xsamurai: heh, I thought you were on about ls =P [14:00] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:00] for any unknown reason all is working now [14:00] :P [14:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [14:00] maybe couse executing alsaconf [14:01] acidtripper: maybe its all the cursing you did earlier [14:01] acidtripper: lol [14:01] but i cant understand why doing alsaconf disabled sound till i reboot [14:01] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:01] acidtripper: its slackware, nothing makes sense [14:01] alsaconf reboot and all is loaded :P [14:01] :D [14:01] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] really i cant under[tand anything :P [14:02] gone to maths [14:02] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:05] Camarade_Tux: interesting I didnt know there was a formula behind the yo mama jokes '"Your mother is so X she's Y", in which "fat", "stupid", "ugly", etc. are substituted for X, and Y [14:05] acidtripper: maybe it's your ass [14:05] xsamurai: there are many variables also. [14:05] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090803134719]" [14:06] xsamurai: wikipedia makes you learn everyday :) [14:06] xsamurai: there is also the variation "Your mother is so X she can Y" [14:06] right [14:06] xsamurai: as in "Your mother is so fat she can kickstart a space shuttle" [14:06] we could talk all day on this [14:06] yo momma so fat when she's on the beach everyone goes free willy! [14:06] and we actually do sometimes [14:07] but gotta love em. [14:07] Action: mrselfpwn pinches slackware cheeks. [14:08] macavity: k let me try, yo mama is sooooooo stupid she tried to apt-get a burrito [14:08] like that ? [14:08] nope [14:08] lol [14:08] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [14:08] of course macavity is gonna laugh [14:09] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:09] yo momma so fat even kde thinks she's bloated [14:09] apt-get nekkid-chix [14:09] damn.. nubibuntu sux [14:09] mancha: now that's humor [14:10] hey.. kde isnt fat.. its just erotically choppy! [14:10] Axius (n=fd@92.84.15.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:10] apt-get slackware [14:10] ffs [14:10] Action: mrselfpwn slaps snL20 [14:10] mrselfpwn: lol [14:10] now THAT would be a cool repo :P [14:10] gadamn, you mean slapt-get? [14:11] apt-get --purge --reinstall install jesus [14:11] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.240) joined ##slackware. [14:11] now that's just fubar [14:11] your momma is so easy she makes ubuntu look hard to use [14:11] ubuntu is hard to use. wtf [14:12] deco: i double dare you to say that in #ubuntu :P [14:12] it is ^^ [14:12] yo momma so easy she makes ubuntu hard :D [14:12] mrselfpwn: k how about, yo mama so easy all her ports are open ? [14:12] lol, what have I started :D [14:12] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] xsamurai: that's a good one. [14:12] apt-get -d install jesus satan [14:12] apt-get install jesus satan [14:12] jesus | satan [14:12] success [14:13] jesus hp: 96/100 [14:13] macavity: maybe hmmm :P [14:13] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [14:13] satan hp 79/100 [14:13] Camarade_Tux: ^^ [14:13] satan | jesus [14:13] and so on [14:13] satan > jesus [14:13] is this where we are supposed to laugh or something? [14:14] lmao, you guys use ubuntu waaay too much. [14:14] winter uses debian [14:14] mrselfpwn++ [14:14] not ubuntu [14:14] i didn't mention about dependencies [14:14] Action: snL20 use archlinux [14:14] winter: don't go there [14:14] Archlinux: because rolling releases are SO dependable [14:14] where [14:14] your anus [14:15] we use debian at work as well, its on my top 10 things to poo on [14:15] i mean uranus [14:15] macavity: YEAH! [14:15] Slackware: because you dont care that you lag 20 versions [14:15] Fedora: because we said so!.. err.. or because we have 1337 pathces? [14:15] okay, that's just not true [14:15] ^ slackware [14:16] sfergut (n=hjkhjklh@188.24.23.223) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Gentoo: because you didnt buy that 3.4GHz Quadcore for nothing! [14:16] debian because you dont care that you lag 2000 versions [14:16] nvm [14:16] Action: mrselfpwn slaps self in face [14:16] Debian: because you need an OS for your toaster [14:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] eh? I bet netBSD runs on more toasters... [14:16] Camarade_Tux, about the installer CD problem not creating /dev/sd file devices [14:16] Ubuntu: because, uhm, the cool kids in school run this linux thing and you dont want to look *too* stupid [14:17] Urchlay: aah yes netbsd :D [14:17] what is this, distro bashing time? [14:17] Urchlay: hah, yes thoug bsd is harder to install on toasters [14:17] it was because the cfdisk binary has an -f [-x /dev/makedevfs] script [14:17] macavity: ok, that one was horrible. :P [14:17] Urchlay: dont forget to bash slackware too.. it must he even terms :P [14:17] okay slow down. i'm 85% drunk right now [14:17] fire|bird: i could come up with worse.. but if i express my true oppinion in the matter i might face a permban for profanity [14:18] OK, this round, I attack Debian with my +4 longsword [14:18] slackware -- who needs package management! [14:18] Action: Urchlay rolls a d20 [14:18] so actually you need to do something with cfdisk to create a partition or something for the /dev/sd* file to be created [14:18] I need to go to the store to reach my limit. [14:18] sfergut: that's weird [14:18] dont know why that was set there [14:18] hey, natural 20! critical hit! [14:18] sfergut: come again? [14:18] hey laboriously|dipping [14:18] er Urchlay [14:19] sfergut: as in, the disk nodes arent there, or the partitions arent there? [14:19] you can try to boot a slackware64 install cd and vi /usr//sbin/cfdisk [14:19] sfergut: do you have /dev/sda? [14:19] hey, marginal|convict [14:19] sfergut: but not /dev/sda[1/2/3] [14:19] err, fire|bird [14:19] *general* *poll* : who's using cfdisk when installing? who's using fdisk? who creates his partitions before? [14:19] sfergut: you should have tried using parted or fdisk like normal people? [14:19] Urchlay: the second one it generated was: butts|manicures [14:19] ewww [14:19] Urchlay: and after that: insight|dildo [14:19] Camarade_Tux: i use cfdisk [14:20] i used cfdisk the first time :P [14:20] your /usr/share/dict/words has a dirty mind! [14:20] mrselfpwn, of i would did that then the /dev/sd* files will not be there maybe [14:20] Urchlay: evidently. :/ [14:20] s/of/if [14:20] but since a 100GB disk on a laptop only splits well one way, i dont have to redo it :P [14:20] Camarade_Tux: I use plain fdisk, but rarely actually need the installer these days [14:20] macavity, yes that was the problem [14:20] i had /dev/sda but no /dev/sda[1/2/3] [14:21] Camarade_Tux: your poll seems small [14:21] sfergut: then yes, as soon as the boot media dumps you in the shell, run cfdisk and create partitions [14:21] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:21] sfergut: when done, dont forget to hit [Write] [14:21] sfergut: then, as the nice help screen says, run "setup" [14:21] damnit I hate getting behind in IRC chat [14:21] and if this is not sufficient help, consult www.slackbook.org [14:21] macavity, if by chance the partitions are created then waht should i do ? .. for example if i had previous an slackware 32 bit and wanted to do a fresh install of salcwkare64 [14:22] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) joined ##slackware. [14:22] the chapter on installation walks you over this step by step [14:22] maybe there is a case where the nodes aren't created and people usually don't notice it as most run cfdisk [14:22] sfergut: just run setup then [14:22] Camarade_Tux: wtf ? [14:22] as a work around i enabled and disable bootable flag then hit write [14:22] sfergut: and pick the partitions you want to use for whatever.. and when it asks you if it should format them, say yes [14:23] sfergut: no need [14:23] snL20: note the "maybe" and "hypthesis" (which was meant to be "hypothesis") [14:23] macavity, if i do that i will dont have any /dev/sda[1/2/3] [14:23] come again? [14:23] ftr., I had the same bug -_- [14:23] do you people not even read the previous sentence? [14:23] "if i do that i will dont have any" is not valid english [14:23] response is so fast [14:23] macavity, if i run only setup then there arent any /dev/sda[1/2/3] [14:24] I guess Slackware is just *that* awesome. [14:24] then you somehow accedently removed the partition table [14:24] fdisk -l showed fine also cfdisk without write was fine too [14:24] ah [14:24] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda [14:24] :D [14:24] snL20: that can get you banned... [14:25] Action: mrselfpwn makes a smiley face. [14:25] :) [14:25] macavity: what ? it was a suggestion how to fix it [14:25] sfergut: ok, so the kernel for some reason doesnt read the partition table? [14:25] Action: mrselfpwn is 9`.2% drunkd. [14:25] as a workaround i had to enable and disable bootable flag using cfdisk then the /dev/sda files were created [14:25] snL20: always quote potentially dangerous commands [14:26] macavity: quote ? [14:26] i have two 2 raid autodetect partitions [14:26] sfergut: good.. this is slackware64-13.0 right? [14:26] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.170.175) joined ##slackware. [14:26] right [14:26] snL20: so people dont accedently paste them [14:26] slackware 13 or -current? [14:26] snL20: alienBOB's orders [14:26] macavity: like "dd ..." ? [14:26] snL20: "command -options" [14:26] because real newbs use -current [14:26] exactly [14:26] slackware64-13 not current [14:26] macavity: ok.. :] [14:27] i actually once managed to fuck up an rm paste, because gpm pastes on middle click [14:27] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@80.202.41.176) left ##slackware ("Borte, Borte, Borte"). [14:27] Action: mrselfpwn doesn't use middle click when he can for that reason. [14:27] macavity: :O [14:27] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@unreachable.vpi.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@80.202.41.176) joined ##slackware. [14:28] snL20: Indeed I'll be watching you now. That was not a good thing to type like that... [14:28] sfergut: is it a solid state disk, or a USB connected disk? [14:28] also if i have raid autodetect partitions first i must stop the raid with mdadm -S /// if i dont stop the raid then the /dev/sda[1/2/3] aprtitionscant be mounted [14:28] another good thing to have in your .bashrc is verify for rm command. [14:28] sfergut: or anything taht might be odd in some how [14:28] it says are busy [14:28] ok, this is odd [14:28] alienBOB: i'm sorry :| [14:29] alienBOB: are you getting this problem? [14:29] snL20: what was your offense? [14:29] macavity: busy with other things [14:29] ok [14:29] alienBOB has no problem. [14:29] mrselfpwn: a dd command apparently :| [14:29] alienBOB = !Chuck Norris [14:30] Action: alienBOB can still kick hard mrselfpwn... [14:30] lol [14:30] mrselfpwn: are you trying to tell us that alienBOB cant eat just one Lay's potato chip?!? :P [14:30] At least hard enough to get you out of this channel [14:30] Action: mrselfpwn loves alienBOB [14:30] i love this place :P [14:30] Action: alienBOB hopes mrselfpwn is a girl then [14:30] lol my bach skills suck everybody [14:30] love and violence is such a sweet cocktail :P [14:31] if you're gonna kiss his ass be more subtle! :) [14:31] s/bach/bash [14:31] still dont know the reason to why /dev/makedevfs was added in the cfdisk binary and cfdisk.bin to be run instead of a normal cfdisk [14:31] i don't have to kiss his ass [14:31] i never saw a need to move away from fdisk fwiw... [14:31] sfergut: what O_O [14:32] Action: snL20 goes to watch tv [14:32] he's my bith...... please don't kick me. [14:32] etc etc [14:32] macavity sfergut - you can always run partprobe to make sure the kernel knows the current state of partitions [14:33] ah, nice [14:33] Action: macavity makes note to self [14:33] partprobe ? ... never used it [14:33] alienBOB: the word has it you had some slackware livecd project started. may i ask what state it is in? [14:33] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521005.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:34] nazazel (n=nazazel@host-90-233-150-200.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] alienBOB: I admire your quotes about slackware on your interview. [14:35] mrselfpwn: was that the subtle attempt? :P [14:35] Action: mrselfpwn whispers alienBOB is like a celebrity. [14:35] that was more subtle than "me loves alienbob" [14:35] :P [14:35] gadamnit [14:35] only ever so slightly :P [14:36] we're getting there thogh [14:36] mrselfpwn: try "i really appreciate that the core slackware crew takes such an interest in the community" [14:36] I have to take a piss. When you guys finish installing slackware let me know. [14:36] no wait.. that is A grade brown nosing too :P [14:37] nazazel (n=nazazel@host-90-233-150-200.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:37] Hehe [14:37] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.50) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] john_dee: it's on the backburner due lack of time [14:38] I bet most of you nerds haven't read his fscking post. [14:38] macavity, if you boot a slackware64 bit install cd , then cat /sbin/cfdisk it shows like this http://dpaste.org/WXWm/ [14:38] alienBOB: too bad. any chance of it being restarted any time soon? [14:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:38] so i am wondering why cant be /dev/makedevfs be run into the initrd [14:38] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [14:39] alienBOB: or maybe it is accessible anywhere in best traditions of gpl? :D [14:40] john_dee: perhaps you do not fully understand the GPL then... [14:40] making livecds is a fun exercise. i once made one that rocked...many lives ago though [14:41] macavity: that was a low blow [14:41] i even played with state-saving on removable media for persistence. then i grew bored and like all my other projects it got abandoned :/ [14:41] alienBOB: maybe. but that's not the point. question about restarting it is more important :) [14:41] The GPL is a license applied by the *author* if he so decides. And whoever uses the GPL-ed program is required to make the sources available to others. This is something else than the idea of a livecd of which no results have ever been posted [14:41] speaking of which Mr. alienBOB [14:42] john_dee: actually I have been thinking about what approach I should take to this livecd [14:42] mk_ (n=00@187.89.114.237) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:42] Rich^ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [14:43] It's either (1) allow the user to create a livecd of his running system or (2) create a script that takes a Slackware tree/DVD and creates a liveCD ISO out of that [14:43] alienBOB, im having an issue installing vlc with your slackbuild on 64 bit [14:43] here is the error [14:43] http://pastebin.com/d47e6e08e [14:43] alienBOB: i'd say 2nd is preferrable. 1st can be done with linux-live [14:44] alienBOB: Not to take rights from the user, though the latter is better? [14:44] well, sort of, anyway [14:44] What I don't want to do is creating something elaborate like the linux-live scripts (used to create SLAX) - if you want that kind of functionality, then use SLAX [14:45] Scuzz: read the errors better [14:45] It's all in there. [14:45] alienBOB: it's really up to you and your expedient mind. [14:45] so i jsut have to install development tools [14:45] Action: mrselfpwn squeezes in a kiss. [14:46] that was a joke [14:46] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] Scuzz: Slackware does not have 'development' packages like other distros' '-dev' stuff [14:46] ahh ok thanx [14:46] There's the word "seamonkey" in those errors [14:46] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX: a new fragrance for men, by Calvin Klein" [14:47] There's some things that won't build against SeaMonkey 2.0 [14:47] some SBo stuff anyway. [14:47] Yes [14:47] facinating [14:47] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] alienBOB: what kind of functionality? like loadable modules? it's not that slax has some outstanding features [14:48] honestly though, if I haven't had a chance to show my gratitude I'll take the chance now and just like to say thanks. Really after reading some of your stuf alienBOB I feel it necessary. [14:48] stunix (i=1000@80.239.63.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:48] sfergut: i see what you mean.. but since i dont have makedevfs.sh off hand, i cant tell you why it does that [14:48] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:50] john_dee: the concept of expandability through adding modules (th SLAX version of packages) [14:50] i dont see it neither maybe is it in the initrd image [14:51] anyway [14:51] it probably is [14:51] its a funny problem, but its good that you have found a work around [14:51] did somebody say seamonkey??? [14:51] try and take it up with rworkman [14:51] muhahha [14:51] or alienBOB when he has the time [14:51] seamonkey? [14:52] mancha: indeed. ;) [14:52] haven't tried the new version. :) [14:52] incognitus (n=neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [14:52] mrselfpwn: How come, slack has it now, for 12.2, 13, and current [14:52] alienBOB: having slackware running stable from read-only media (not busybox :)) would be really nice. so that it keeps as close to original system as possible. gives the possibility to upgrade it. like squashfs root filesystem or the like. i'm trying to make something out of linux-live atm but they fail badly with 13 [14:52] hello all [14:52] rworkman is not involved with the initrd, but you can always ask him. As far as my advice of running partprobe - you can take it or leave it... but makedevs script should not be needed [14:52] i see that seamonkey-solibs have been upgraded in -current [14:52] I am slightly afraid now [14:53] i have a newly occered problem with xfce [14:53] macavity: seamonkey itself has as well, not just the -solibs [14:53] fire|bird: I have it on my computer [14:53] Just haven't opened it lol [14:53] mrselfpwn: Well fire it up, give it a try. :P [14:53] john_dee: I will not consider a livecd that is upgradeable - that is when you should opt for SLAX [14:53] alienBOB: thats the problem.. cfdisk calls it after it exits cfdisk.bin [14:54] alien, my initial reaction is choice #1 would not be too different from other livecd options other than it being based on a vanilla slack system. option #2 otoh can allow you to tweak till you sing zippidy doo dah out your ass then burn that to a cd and take it on the road, always booting up to your familiar tweaks and scripts [14:54] and your welcome alienBOB [14:54] macavity, oki [14:54] when i start the mashine or change from init 3 to init 4 i xfce gives a message "try icon cannot be initiated" or something soimilar, and try bar is not active [14:54] slackware current here [14:54] macavity: not exactly. It says if [ -x /dev/makedevs.sh ]; then /dev/makedevs.sh ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; fi [14:55] Oops wireless lag [14:55] now sounded like a sentence from the ghetto. [14:55] alienBOB: well, someone may consider it being upgradable even though it was not supposed to be :p [14:55] incognitus: ^^ [14:55] alienBOB: right [14:55] i should leave this untill the fever is down [14:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] s/now/that [14:55] And since /dev/makedevs.sh is in the installer, it will be run [14:56] john_dee: probably - I will not mind that level of creativity [14:56] alienBOB: and if what sfergut says it right, it should probably be run prior to this point [14:56] s/it/is/ [14:57] or maybe even "prior to this point *too*" [14:57] mrselfpwn, yes! and apps like skype and opera cannot be docket if i close the window the application go somewhere [14:57] incognitus: have you tried going directly to init 4 from boot using /etc/inittab ? [14:57] i am still chuckling that microsoft patented "sudo" [14:57] it is under "?" in the output of "ps -A" [14:57] macavity: as a Slackware user installing Slackware, you could figure out that running that script before cfdisk is something you just can do... nobody restrains you [14:57] alienBOB, well for some reason it does not run if i have raid autodetect partitions [14:58] mrselfpwn, yes, its typical for me, i use runlevel 4, but the same occure when i switch from 3 to 4 [14:58] ^^ [14:58] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware. [14:58] sidmario_ (n=sidmario@189.111.72.101) joined ##slackware. [14:58] sfergut: weird. Here I let the installer's udev detect the partitions and create the device nodes [14:58] and yes, technically i could run that if i manage to figure out that that is the cause of the problem.......... [14:58] In mother russia, you don't run anything. mother russia run you. [14:58] :) [14:58] :)) [14:59] 20 years later man, 20 years :) [14:59] icarus: I don't understand your problem 100 [14:59] alienBOB, even restarted udev and is the same .. just by chance i tried the cfdisk thing [14:59] % [15:00] alienBOB: well, if you get to work on it count me in as a tester [15:00] The /dev/makedevs.sh script comes from pre-udev time [15:00] incognitus: * [15:01] okay, i'm clocking out. [15:01] sfergut: is it possible that there is something fishy with your raid partitions? [15:01] have a nice lunch all [15:01] cya [15:01] I have a test system with raid-autodetect partitions and I don't have to do anything to get the raid autodetected and re-assembled before I run setup [15:01] macavity, they work fine now so dont think so [15:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] well obvisouly there is a dead cat burried somewhere here [15:02] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:02] alienBOB, mine is like this http://dpaste.org/FG4f/ [15:03] it could be one of three things: a) you have the error, b) udev has the error, or c) the initrd has the error [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] mmm. chocolate covered doughnuts [15:04] there was this error " Probing EDD (edd=off to disable) " just spotted after 4 reboots of the cd installer as it was quick [15:05] i tried even booting with raid= noautodetect or devfs=nomount edd=off [15:05] though no option worked to disable raid autodected [15:05] then use edd=off [15:06] mrselfpwn ever had hard-chocolate covered donuts? hard as in the one used to covr ice cream bars? [15:06] mmmmmm [15:06] not yet [15:06] mrselfpwn, i thought that will help that`s why i tried it but did not worked .. only using cfdisk to do something worked [15:06] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) joined ##slackware. [15:06] those are outstanding. much better than just chocolate icing [15:07] I will have to give this a try [15:07] macavity: are u online?// [15:07] mancha: publix? [15:07] prashant_: yeps [15:07] alienBOB, can you boot into your test system with raid=noautodetect ? [15:07] skysong:are u online? [15:08] using the slackware64-13 installer cd [15:08] macavity: i recompiled the kernel (31.6) and it worked [15:08] good :-) [15:09] well, alienBOB doesn't really like you prashant_ . Just give up now. I'm his main man on the ground. Just deal with it. [15:09] did you have to use any boot options? [15:09] macavity: thnx to you man, i was scratching my head from the last 3 days [15:09] or did it just work out of the box? [15:10] again i'm joking/ [15:10] mrselfpwn: are you drunk? :P [15:10] macavity: no i didn't used any boot options. on rebooting, i used alsaconf to configure it and it worked miraculously [15:10] 97% yes [15:10] it shows ;-) [15:10] mrself, dunno, i once was "friendly" with a girl who made them. the doughnut was more cooky-ish and less doughy [15:11] prashant_: so you removed the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf thingie? [15:11] well macavity it's all about what you feel inside. [15:11] of [15:11] cookie-ish, not cooky [15:11] Guest59504 (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] exactly [15:12] Nick change: Rich^ -> Richlv [15:12] macavity: earlier when you told to append the options line, after appending, it was not showing my cards anymore [15:12] ok [15:12] macavity: but after recompiling the newer kernel, everything was all right [15:12] so your card just works straight out of the box with .31.6 [15:12] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:12] thats nice to know [15:13] yes [15:13] HDA is becomming an increasing nuisance [15:13] fortunately i have an Asus.. they apparently just wire the codec according to the documentation [15:13] macavity: for sure, as you earlier told, finding the correct chip is headache [15:14] i never had isues with it [15:14] prashant_: a "lshda" utility would be nice [15:15] macavity: lshds? it's showing command not found [15:15] exactly [15:15] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] stunix (i=1000@85.19.222.201) joined ##slackware. [15:15] macavity: i also need to configure mysql [15:16] prashant_: read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld *carefully* [15:16] prashant_: and do what it says... [15:16] atleast you don't have to hunt down drivers like in windows [15:16] macavity: ok [15:16] before you attempt to start the server [15:16] macavity: ok [15:17] macavity: ok , catch up with you later .it's 2:00 am in the morning now in my country.gotto go [15:18] sleep tight [15:18] macavity:bye [15:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.110) joined ##slackware. [15:18] good night prashant_, take care. [15:18] omg.. have you guys read this? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091111094923390 [15:18] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) left irc: "Leaving" [15:19] v3gard: dont worry about it.. SFLC is already on it [15:19] goodie :) [15:19] grats to mrselfpwn, he doesn't use sudo. [15:20] waste if you ask me. [15:21] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:23] lol, the only place that knocking sudo wouldn't derive in a flamewar is [15:23] slackware [15:23] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.68.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:24] mrselfpwn: go try that in #ubuntu now. ;) [15:24] fire|bird: yeah i bet. XD [15:24] generally I don't use sudo either, but it is handy in some situations [15:24] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:24] fire|bird: have I told you lately that I loved you? [15:24] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [15:25] Grrr.... are we still talking about pr0n? [15:25] Action: fire|bird wonders just how drunk mrselfpwn is atm. [15:25] akward moment [15:25] alienBO [15:25] B please come back. [15:25] awkward* [15:26] yes even more so [15:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:26] by a show of hands, who thinks mrselfpwn should be sent to ##slackware-rehab, or ##slackware-detox ? :P [15:26] Action: macavity raises his right hand [15:27] \o [15:27] nazi [15:27] The good news: new box seems to pass the memory check and heat stability tests. The bad news: I don't seem to have anywhere to stuff the vendor preload while I try to get Slackware up and running. [15:27] 2 people [15:27] okay you nut [15:27] lol [15:27] Action: deco hugs mrselfpwn [15:28] awww [15:28] you are my enemy now fire|bird [15:28] Noooooooooooo! [15:28] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-227-5.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:28] better suck up the juices while you can [15:28] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Hmm, I'm a *fire* bird, and you're full of alcohol, what do you think that combo would cause, mrselfpwn? :D [15:29] :o [15:29] Action: fire|bird thinks *kaboom* [15:29] fire|bird: i'm always full of alchohal [15:29] you like missed mrpwn's life? [15:29] hmm i have't heard of it. [15:29] mrselfpwn: is there any good AA meetings near you? :P [15:29] Action: macavity ducks [15:29] haha [15:30] Action: mrselfpwn grabs macavity and slings him like a duck. [15:30] ohhhh yes. more! [15:30] I've always wanted to do that. [15:30] Action: macavity smears vanilla pudding on mrselfpwn's face [15:30] Like a duck who has no opinio [15:30] n [15:31] as you might have guessed, i have always wanted to do that :P [15:31] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-227-5.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] lol [15:31] ok, time to get freaky [15:31] who has some bubble wrap? [15:31] :o [15:31] where is the chik that was in here? [15:31] we scared here off [15:31] her* [15:31] yea [15:32] Action: fire|bird hands macavity a roll of bubble wrap, please, I don't want it back. [15:32] can't doit without a femail [15:32] lmao FMAIL [15:32] fire|bird: what? i can wash it really carefull? [15:32] haha [15:32] incognitus (n=neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:33] macavity: I'm guessing that afterwards, the bubbles will be all popped anyway, thus rendering it useless. ;) [15:33] oh.. i only go gorilla style on it saturday night [15:33] fire|bird: not if you are part of the game [15:33] otherwise it gets too expensive [15:33] lol [15:33] io can give you some [15:33] ++ [15:33] $5,40 [15:33] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] macavity: you are a man with many wishes though we will grant you this one. [15:34] however, i always note on ebay "will only accept bubble wrap, NO styrofoam chips acceptable" [15:34] lol [15:34] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] your an e-tard macavity [15:34] yes! a small goat has entered the room! [15:34] Action: macavity fetches the lube [15:35] lmao [15:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:35] i just hope that sane people can find a place for you macavity. [15:36] around these parts i *am* the sane person :P [15:36] macavity: ok, that's scary. :P [15:36] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:37] fire|bird: would you like to come over for a late helloween party? :P [15:37] i keep spilling shit on my white shirt. how many years has to go by until they realize I don't give a-shit about my white shirt? [15:37] macavity: Umm, I, uh, think I'll pass. thanks. :P [15:37] if it is always shit you spill on it, why not just get a brown shirt? [15:38] and no, dont even begin to explain how shit falls upwards :P [15:38] brown shirt you mean an ubuntu shirt ? [15:38] macavity: In mrselfpwn's case, it happens when he's standing on his head chugging beer. :P [15:38] fire|bird: ah, common, it will be fun.. i even have a spare straight jacket you can borrow [15:38] straight jacket? sounds like something deco would like. [15:39] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521005.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [15:39] fire|bird: :P [15:39] nah [15:39] i like to use my hands [15:39] orly? [15:39] tell us all about it [15:39] that would explain the friction burns on your palms. [15:39] macavity: well there was this time when ... [15:40] .... [15:40] nvm [15:40] at bank camp? [15:40] there's a bank camp? [15:40] wall street? [15:40] deco: lol, you just set yourself up for that one. :P [15:40] fire|bird: :) [15:40] this is the funniest shit i've ever read with one eye open i've ever seen. [15:41] what, you have a patch over the other one? [15:41] macavity fire|bird you two are officialy con-men [15:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] mrselfpwn: promise me you wont attempt to operate a motor viehcle for the next 24 hours :P [15:41] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.170.175) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:41] macavity: too late [15:41] mrselfpwn: i can give you a ride ;-) [15:41] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.240) left irc: Connection timed out [15:41] thanks internet help [15:42] mrselfpwn: you aren't irc'ing while driving, are you? [15:42] I have bigger frish to fry [15:42] I hired these attornies to get my last 2 duis dropped [15:43] they didn't do a good job. [15:43] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:43] anyway, make a long story short [15:43] anyone up for a beer run? [15:43] mrselfpwn: I thought you'd more be the type to say "I defend myself occipher" [15:43] btw, upgradepkg seems to need installpkg to be in the $PATH which isn't the case for non-root users by default, bug? [15:44] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-252.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:44] Camarade_Tux: Go back to bed. [15:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.17) joined ##slackware. [15:44] mrselfpwn: I'm not yet in bed ;-) [15:44] :) [15:45] Camarade_Tux: Carry on [15:45] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Does alien or someone have a USB mass storage "boot disk" image or something? [15:45] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.39.139) joined ##slackware. [15:45] for installing? [15:45] where the f*ck are you? anyway, no, I actually am not driving [15:46] For starting the installer. The install media would be HTTP. [15:46] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:46] mrselfpwn would you kiss a smallgoat_ ? [15:47] deco: is he wearing lipstick? [15:47] fire|bird: nope but that could be easily fixed :P [15:47] lol [15:47] that is a retorical question? [15:47] mrselfpwn: no just a simple question [15:48] wow i feel like the laughing stock ( not in a gay voice) [15:49] okay so there is no other way to say that except in a gay voice. [15:49] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] sfergut (n=hjkhjklh@188.24.23.223) left irc: "Leaving" [15:49] am I even awake? you guys are assholes [15:49] we know [15:49] true [15:50] it took many years of hard practice to arive at this high level of assholeness [15:50] ccfreak2k, yes, definitely - under the slackware directory, there is a "usb-and-pxe-installers" directory :) [15:50] so naturally, we know [15:50] lmao [15:50] q: why would i want an initrd [15:50] thrice`, now that you mention it, I do remember that being there. [15:50] ccfreak2k, http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ (or, slackware64/) [15:51] chee: unless you do raid/LVM/LUKS stuff, you only want one if you are really pickey about seeing all drivers in lsmod output :P [15:51] I have a local -current repo, so I do have it. [15:51] chee: the rule of thumb is: if you dont need it... you dont need it ;-) [15:51] chee: because you haven't stayed up to date with the latest kernel? [15:51] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) left ##slackware ("fuck neil young"). [15:51] alienBOB has another tool that can expand on that (eg, throwing some package sets on there, etc), but for just the installer, the usb-installer image is the easiest [15:51] haha, macavity. well that's a fine rule [15:51] mrselfpwn, esplain [15:52] because modular kernel will run leaner than the huge kernel [15:52] i mean, what is the purpose? [15:52] modular kernels* [15:52] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] isn't it be modular without initrd [15:53] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] the huge kernel has most of it compiled in statically [15:53] not if you want the disk controller driver to be outside of the kernel image [15:53] acqhello (n=harry@212.183.134.131) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] and is really only meant installing the system to god-knows-what hardware might be out there [15:54] for a time i compiled everything as a module and used an initrd [15:54] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:54] but not that i am running kms, it simply becomes too much of a hassle [15:54] macavity, yeah, I had drm compiled in as a module for awhile, but couldn't figure out why KMS still took awhile to kick in [15:54] thrice` has a point.. i took home brewed kernels for granted [15:55] Importing pynotify failed, notifications disabled. when starting wicd. Anybody else ran into a similar issue? [15:55] you sould go with generic-smp + initrd if you are not going to compile your own [15:56] best to configure your own if you ask me. [15:56] alkos333, mm, not sure, but my guess is that wicd can attach to a notification-daemon if it's available (like xfce's notify) [15:56] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "quit quit quit!!!!!!" [15:56] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] er, xfce4-notifyd ? [15:57] we usually like to blame it on the end [15:57] hm:] [15:57] thrice`: yes, xfce4-notifyd, also there's notification-daemon-xfce. [15:57] how do you spelll usur? [15:57] usur [15:57] okay, I thought I was rith. [15:57] right* [15:57] Scuzz: building vlc with MOZPLUGIN=NO will work, it just won't compile the browser plugin (the new seamonkey breaks that part) [15:57] i have no idea what it means though [15:58] macavity: I think he meant user. ;) [15:58] yup [15:58] ah.. why didnt he just say so? [15:58] ;) [15:58] macavity: he's drunk, he can't think. [15:58] he asked how to spell "usur" [15:58] i'd liketo be drunk can'tthink [15:58] and that is, as the keen observer will have deduced, spelled usur [15:59] lol [15:59] who wants to touch my kernel ? [16:00] mrselfpwn ? [16:00] Action: chee rubs it [16:00] Action: macavity backs off [16:00] Action: alienBOB prepares for some channel bans [16:00] deco: you know I do. [16:00] lol [16:00] don't ask [16:00] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:00] lol [16:00] Let that be the final warning [16:00] wtf macavity backed off???? [16:01] sorry alienBOB [16:01] i usually don't get this way unless deco is involved. [16:02] blamer :P [16:02] heh [16:02] Action: chee understands [16:02] shut ui [16:02] this way = annoying? [16:02] shut it [16:02] Action: macavity giggles [16:02] hey thrice`, how are you? [16:02] thrice`: am I annoying? [16:02] mrselfpwn: no [16:02] mrselfpwn: you are drunk as a skunk :P [16:02] Whoever gets banned in the next few minutes has only himself to blame - don't try to blame others [16:02] annoying? [16:02] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [16:02] mrselfpwn, yes [16:03] fire|bird, how's it going? :) [16:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:03] thrice`: you should die [16:03] thrice`: great, thank you. :) [16:03] deco: thank you [16:03] :) [16:03] I should die? why is that? [16:03] okay when's this next few minutes happen because I got to pee. [16:04] you are the one on-deck for a ban, if you hadn't caught on :) [16:05] thrice`: i hadnt' caught on since third grade please explain why you think so. [16:05] it's due to your high signal-to-dumb-shit ratio [16:06] bah [16:06] so you calling me out? [16:06] i guess i only survive in here because i actually help people from time to time :P [16:06] geez, i just upgraded the gimp not long ago and now a malformed bmp can root it [16:06] mancha: yikes [16:06] mancha: come again? [16:06] you know i'm actually more active than most [16:07] macavity, scary :) [16:07] go on thrice` tho [16:07] er, mancha * [16:07] pi31415_ (n=bcollver@proxy2.whiteselectronics.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] you seem to know it all [16:07] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.100.21) left irc: "Saindo" [16:07] but.. the gimp has no suid root parts, does it? [16:07] I have 2 USB flash drives of the same model. When I run "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=64k" sometimes it will succeed and sometimes it will fail with the following error. dd: writing `/dev/sdc': No space left on device [16:08] i'm here to help people [16:08] no, if you run as user the damage could be limited [16:08] excuse my ignorance though i help more than most [16:08] who in their right mind would run gimp as root?!? [16:08] mrselfpwn is one of the more helpful users in here [16:08] doctors in a nazi doom camp. [16:08] they both should get bunned. [16:09] Any idea why I get this error? I have seen no pattern yet. [16:09] winter: bunned? :P [16:09] pi31415_: that does sound strange [16:09] and, gimp isn't a terrific attack vector anyway... [16:09] mac, i don't know the specifics of the overflow to know the extent of the damage [16:09] yes, though in this nazi camp. i'm in charge [16:09] Camarade_Tux: true that.. [16:09] Camarade_Tux, that sounds intelligent but could you actually explain what you mean? [16:09] of nazis [16:10] macavity: I do not get any kernel messages during the dd. I suspect either a driver bug or a hardware bug. [16:10] mancha: if it is only a regular overflow, then (unless yet another exploit is utilized) it does not cause privilidge escalation.. only arbitrary code execution [16:10] 99% drunk and my eye burns [16:10] Action: pi31415_ places mrselfpwn on ignore [16:10] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] 1 down [16:11] WTF are people talking about nazis for? [16:11] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:11] mancha: *you* have to download the image, save it and edit it, and it also requires that you are using the gimp, it's much more efficient to target a 3 year old firefox vuln [16:11] I thought I was on trial. [16:11] winter seem to like the topic :P [16:11] mancha: and I guess you can also chroot the gimp without losing much functionnality [16:11] w/in 17 [16:11] bah [16:11] fail [16:11] :P [16:11] that made no sense to me [16:12] at this hour, very little in ##slackware makes sense to anyone [16:12] yes i agree though to exploit gimp you need to use gimp. proof by d'oh [16:12] lol [16:12] macavity: when was last time you wen to sleep [16:12] aka a Homer attack? [16:12] mrselfpwn kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: alienBOB [16:12] ouch! [16:13] Camarade_Tux: i got up some 12 hours ago [16:13] bullshit. [16:13] mancha: most people don't open images with the gimp but with firefox or kde/gnome's builtin [16:13] No ban, but he deserves a cool-down outside of this channel [16:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.19.17) left irc: "Leaving." [16:13] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:13] mancha: oh, ok, was wondering ;-) [16:13] Camarade_Tux: but i have a fever.. so dont count on me being neither bright nor coherent :P [16:14] Camarade anyways i am merely sharing the vulnerability do with it what you'd like... [16:14] macavity: even when you don't have anything, I don't count on that ;p [16:14] mancha: errr, my brain can't parse your sentence ;p [16:14] Camarade_Tux: i know that you love me :P [16:14] ^^ [16:14] alienBOB: I concur. I'll be back in a few if you require assistance. [16:15] getting your shotgun? [16:15] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-evzfxjsaoukwueyx) joined ##slackware. [16:15] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-evzfxjsaoukwueyx) left irc: Client Quit [16:15] mrselfpwn was not the only one misbehaving, several others should perhaps feel the boot too [16:16] Action: macavity scratches head [16:16] oh good [16:16] cardinals of the subgenius are here [16:16] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [16:16] If I leave dolphin running too long, it freezes. I have to click the WM close button and after a moment KDE offers to kill the process. [16:16] Where [16:17] does the process show other signs of failage? high cpu or mem usage? [16:17] I'll take a boot, if you want :) [16:17] I have avoided shutting down my laptop today to preserve the bizarre state it's in. It can't suspend to ram and i suspect if i shutdown it will hang at 'unmounting local filesystems' much like last time it couldn't suspend to ram [16:17] pi31415_: 13.0 or -current? [16:18] thieusoai1 (n=user@64.106.46.245) joined ##slackware. [16:18] 13.0 [16:18] hiptobecubic: I can't suspend either, linux is trying to sync a device I unplugged earlier while the computer was sleeping (I thought I had unmounted it) [16:18] no havent seen.. i have seen -current dolphin hang a while before it enters directories [16:18] hiptobecubic: 13.0? [16:18] pi31415 it is probably due to your off-by-one error [16:18] yes [16:18] it has been trying to sync and suspend for 8 hours now :) [16:18] ext4? [16:19] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] dive had me echo ram > /sys/something/state and it demonstrated the same problem. /var/log/pm-suspend.log looks fine except for this error http://vpaste.net/hzhDw [16:20] thrice`, me? yes. [16:20] hiptobecubic: And it hangs while unmounting local drives? Coule you pastebin /etc/fstab and the output from 'mount'? [16:20] beatzz_ (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [16:20] sup G's!!!?!?!?! [16:21] gata get this laptop to current to kill lame-o alkonoid [16:21] mancha: My error? Please explain [16:21] thats my project for today [16:21] It doesn't always do this. If i try to shutdown, it hangs, i sysrq something and reboot. then it acts fine for a while. suspends fine, reboots fine. Then maybe tomorrow... it will be like this again. I haven't figured out exactly what happens. [16:21] pi31415: sure, everyone knows pi to 4 decimal places is 3.1416 [16:21] http://vpaste.net/VfFDV http://vpaste.net/DLz4O [16:21] mancha, he truncated ;) [16:21] beatzz: read the slackpkg manpage on how to do it [16:21] word [16:22] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [16:22] gracias bro [16:22] mancha: quit trolling me [16:22] hiptobecubic: dmesg? [16:22] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Camarade_Tux, Alan_Hicks dmesg is a little weird...... http://vpaste.net/DTka4 [16:23] does irc dcc still allow one to send $send_of_humor? [16:23] hiptobecubic: back up your files ^^ [16:23] $sense_of_humor i meant [16:23] Camarade_Tux, :D :D [16:23] hiptobecubic: That's good advice. [16:23] mancha: no, disabled for security [16:24] Action: hiptobecubic sighs [16:24] nemesis1 (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-xyjqibjnjgejwonc) joined ##slackware. [16:24] ext4 is a mad beast [16:24] ls [16:24] hiptobecubic: To be completely honest, I have no idea what in the world could be causing this. Are you perhaps using some removable drives? [16:24] and, could we have timestamps in slack kernels? [16:24] thrice`, your a mad beast! [16:24] Alan_Hicks, no. [16:24] (in the output of dmesg that is) [16:24] Alan_Hicks: alienBlurb; Why was I kicked? [16:24] a mad linux hackin crazy slack masta [16:24] < mrself [16:25] I wouldn't be surprised if it's some ext4 sync bug [16:25] are we suspecting ext4? or just expecting it not to be able to put up with this [16:25] katharsis! [16:25] nemesis1: you were just kicked.. not banned [16:25] nemesis1: so you can use your regular nick [16:25] I'd backup before rebooting too, or fsck might start chomping your data [16:25] well, i can't [16:25] thrice`, rad. [16:25] now I am unable to use it [16:25] nemesis1: perhaps you need to sobr up a bit [16:25] we saw no ban here [16:25] I do not like to be called a nzi [16:26] it's about all I can think of :\ I had an odd one myself where ext4 didn't sync before rebooting, and my "/" got destroyed [16:26] nemesis1: YOu were being a drunk jack-ass and a disruption to the channel. [16:26] The keyboard is failing [16:26] okay [16:26] :o alienBOB speaks!?! [16:26] well honestly / isn't important to me. almost everything i need is saved in /media/disk anyway. been meaning to clean this installation :D [16:26] well it thought I was jolley any way [16:26] i thouht he was an ailias for some super computer somewhere [16:26] ;) [16:26] lol [16:26] hiptobecubic: This happens both when suspending to ram and when shutting down? [16:27] anyhows.. good night all [16:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:27] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [16:27] what was it that got me kicked? [16:27] i'd like to know? [16:27] nemesis1: YOu were being a drunk jack-ass and a disruption to the channel. [16:27] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] inquiring minds that is. [16:27] Do I need to tell you a third time? [16:27] Guest59504 (n=sidmario@201-92-115-42.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:27] I say forgive nemesis1 [16:27] i've been there too [16:27] Alan_Hicks, well suspend to ram doesn't hang. It goes down, gets to the point right before it should be 'suspending' and then comes back up and everything is fine like it never happened [16:27] Alan_Hicks: YOU never talk to me unles i'm being a drunk ass hole. [16:28] hiptobecubic: I.e. it starts to suspend, but then resumes immediately? [16:28] Alan_Hicks, yes [16:28] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:28] hiptobecubic, it looks like your hooks all run, but the actual suspend (echo mem > /ssy) fails [16:28] beatzz_: thank you [16:28] sidmario_ (n=sidmario@189.111.72.101) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:28] thrice`, yes. dive had me test that earlier and it failed [16:28] nemesis1: Maybe you should figure out the reason for that. Hint: It's not me. [16:28] nemesis1, i have had my fair share of drunkun stupidity on ##slackware [16:28] :) [16:28] the best thing is just to put it behind u and try to move out w/o doing it again [16:29] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] pi31415_ (n=bcollver@proxy2.whiteselectronics.com) left irc: "bleh" [16:29] beatzz_: are you the guy that made a joke and left because it was really bad ? [16:29] yea -_- [16:29] beatzz_: oh ok :) [16:29] prolly, sounds like something i'd do [16:29] ugh.... i don't want to start replacing harddrives [16:29] alright Alan_Hicks, i'll be more carefull. [16:29] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] and polite [16:30] hiptobecubic: Hmm... /usr/lib64/pm-utils/pm-functions: line 259: echo: write error: Device or resource busy [16:30] That's the line that actually suspends the laptop. [16:30] right [16:30] okay [16:30] and another thing [16:30] is that echo to /proc/acpi/sleep? [16:31] Alan_Hicks, well the 'sync' command runs fine [16:31] if you ever plann to suspend me, please consider, my brothers [16:31] Camarade_Tux, i think it's to /sys/power/state ? [16:31] i'm not the only one who uses this account. [16:31] nemesis1: you could have read the signs and backed off before getting kicked [16:31] nemesis1: Consider your brothers before you do stupid shit and they won't get banned along with you. [16:31] alienBOB: I was just having a fun time. [16:32] nemesis that's more something you should concern yourself with, i.e. how your bad behavior can punish innocent 3rd parties [16:32] gues that 's not okay? [16:32] hiptobecubic: That's correct. [16:32] what did I do wrong? [16:32] nemesis1: good to know that - next time I will just ban you [16:32] quote me [16:32] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:29f) left irc: No route to host [16:32] for God's sake. [16:32] hiptobecubic: well, I suspend with "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep" but I guess it's the same mechanism (plus /proc/acpi is "deprecated") [16:32] Read the fsking logs or shut up already [16:33] ah [16:33] You've been acting like a drunk asshole - like Alan_Hicks already told you a few times [16:33] okay,/ [16:33] where was I an asshole? [16:33] hiptobecubic: I found this that's seemed to eliminate a similar problem here: [16:33] o__O [16:33] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [16:33] # https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88377 [16:33] printf 3000000000 > /sys/power/image_size [16:33] You *are* seriously pissing me off now [16:34] I don't think I was [16:34] rworkman: I should ban you too now [16:34] i'm seriois [16:34] ;-__) [16:34] rwork, isn't that for suspend to disk? [16:34] haha [16:34] * [16:34] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:34] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [16:34] mernil kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Too cocky for our sensitive minds [16:34] i don't think i was that [16:34] lol what? [16:34] nemesis1: ##slackofftopic [16:34] anyway [16:34] Ah :-) dear mernil [16:35] alienBOB, do we know him? [16:35] damnit [16:35] mancha: hrm, well, yeah, but that's almost the same :) [16:35] how do i change screens in weechat? [16:35] rworkman: That's not at all the same! :-) [16:35] mernil has been a pimple on this channel's ass for years. [16:35] nemesis1: I do not care about how you perceived this - it's about how the rest of the channel perceived your behaviour [16:35] hiptobecubic: I placed that ban a little while ago [16:35] rwork, glad you made it, you're the resident xfce expert i think. my xfce clock tooltip has a life of its own, soetimes (when i change clock format settings) it decides to change the day of the week [16:36] alienBOB: maybe I missed something though I never was anything less than disrespectfull. [16:36] mancha, did you try in #xfce? [16:36] mancha: hrm, I've never changed my clock format. [16:36] A hard, thick, cancerous pimple. The kind of pimple that goes deeper and deeper the more you squeeze. The kind of pimple that needs to be lanced with a bowie knife. [16:36] have you come across a patch in your xfce dealings for this gremlin? [16:36] Ya know, I think I'm deleting ##slackware from my irc roster. While I like to participate, I see far too many anger management issues here. I find myself asking what's in it for me. [16:36] i made a joke a time or to yes thout am not in deserve of channel kick [16:36] mancha: using the default clock, or orage clock? [16:36] Alan_Hicks: talking about nemesis1 now? [16:36] mancha: I haven't [16:36] mancha, also do you have your locale set differently in the system than in the plugin? if that's possible? [16:36] nemesis1: let me be the judge of that [16:36] alienBOB: Actually, mernil. [16:37] default clock fire. thanks rwork, gave it a shot. [16:37] Ah [16:37] mancha: Hmm, I've never had that occur, I change the format from time to time. I've switched to using orage clock now though. [16:37] mancha: definitely check with the guys in #xfce and see if anyone else has seen similar [16:37] alienBOB: what I mean Is Is I did not mean disrespect. [16:37] I don't recall who's the maintainer for orage though [16:37] he joined #crux today with such lines as: [16:37] 12:54 mernil| Behold! The biggest penis on earth has arrived! All around nice guy, fantastic programmer and the next-to-be champion in UFC. Bow your heads in awe! [16:38] :D :D :D [16:38] lol [16:38] Good luck with life people. [16:38] I still don't understand the ban. I try my hardest to help people [16:38] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [16:38] nemesis1: if I had thought you were intentionally trolling you would have been banned instead of kicked [16:38] Juha Kautto [16:38] danke schoen [16:38] mancha: ^ [16:38] nemesis1: Log off, go to bed, sober up, and then come back. [16:38] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] okay fine [16:39] come on everyone, lets all just let this blow over [16:39] peace :D [16:39] perhaps nemesis1 could help me get to -current? [16:39] beatzz_ (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.74.110) joined ##slackware. [16:40] okay [16:40] hiptobecubic: Sorry. The damn bossman won't stop calling me with the most fuckin' retarded questions ever. [16:40] how do i change channel in weechat real quick? thanks [16:41] Alan_Hicks, what? no rush. [16:41] Things along the lines of: "Ok, go into My Computer." "Ok I'm there." "Ok, go into your C drive." "I don't see a C drive." "There's a C drive there." "Alan, no there's not. There's a Locl Drive C though." [16:41] oh boy lol [16:42] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-54-51.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:42] so rworkman, this bug about setting the suspend to disk size should help? [16:42] hiptobecubic: I don't know, to be honest. [16:42] Alan_Hicks, i love those! [16:43] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF5A7.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [16:43] hiptobecubic: however, either it worked here, or the problem went away on its own. [16:43] note that it was intermittent here - once every 10-15 suspends - not every time. [16:43] alright well, if you ever have to take action on me please don't let it reprocate to my shell [16:43] hiptobecubic: It shouldn't help. You're attempting suspend-to-ram a.k.a. suspend. rworkman is talking about suspend-to-disk, a.k.a. hibernate. [16:43] colmcille (n=colmstar@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:44] Alan_Hicks: I always suspend to ram though. :) [16:44] Alan_Hicks, "Well i clicked it but half the screen went gray." it what? "went gray. like... it's all gray i dunno." what did you click? "i dunno, whatever you said to click" clearly not because it doesn't do that and you dn't know what it was "oh wel on the left it says 'start'" ...... well then resize your startbar back to normal and lets continue. [16:44] nemesis1: When (and it's looking less and less like 'If'), we take action, we will not take your concerns into account, only the concerns of this channel. Understood? [16:45] rworkman: Then I have no idea how that could have helped. [16:45] nemesis1: there is *no* ban on you. Currently. [16:46] Alan_Hicks: :) [16:46] Alan_Hicks: I really don't understand, you treat me less than person from your words. [16:46] rworkman: But it is intruiging. I'm gonna have to read Documentation/ now. [16:46] maybe a mercy shot right between the eyes? [16:47] nemesis1: stop it and they should leave you alone [16:47] nemesis1: Ok, understand this. I don't care for you personally. I don't care for most of the people in here personally, only those whom I am friends with. What I do care about is this channel. If I have to squash your little feelings like a bug in order to take care of this channel, that's exactly what I will do. [16:48] icaro (n=icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) joined ##slackware. [16:48] listen to a pro troll [16:48] icaro (n=icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [16:48] thing is i'm not a troll [16:48] and my feelings. haha [16:48] just what a troll would say! [16:48] also, i think mernil is probably more fun than this [16:48] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:49] I'm not here for a gag out of you Alan_Hicks. [16:49] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:49] nemesis1: please take a break, stop about your kick. You are getting obtuse [16:49] that doesn't even make sense [16:49] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] nemesis1: leave for a moment and come again later on, just an advice [16:49] the kick was obtuse [16:49] (or a piece of :) ) [16:49] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:49] okay [16:49] haha [16:49] A ban then? [16:49] Action: hiptobecubic puts on his goggles [16:49] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-185.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] no, it wasn't. you were just going on about pointless shit [16:50] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:50] i'll heed the advice [16:50] oh snap [16:50] Good [16:50] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] /mode +q nemesis1 Drunktank [16:50] heh [16:50] Sober up, and then read the channel logs [16:50] okay [16:50] They *are* public [16:50] I understand' [16:50] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:50] i'll sober up alienBOB. [16:51] Now stay silent or I will help you [16:51] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] please lift the bans. Thank you. [16:51] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] There is no ban [16:51] There may be one if you keep going [16:51] okay no it's okay [16:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:52] yes maybe I was obtuse [16:52] thieusoai1 (n=user@64.106.46.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] okay good night all. [16:52] see ya on a different day [16:52] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] strange.... [16:53] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:53] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] in weechat how do I switch chans? [16:54] Action: nemesis1 is used to irssi. [16:54] never herd of weechat [16:54] i use xchat / irssi on occasion [16:55] nemesis1: just switch back to irssi [16:55] here's some documentation: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=weechat [16:55] deco: I have open whispers [16:55] i'll have to man the damn thing [16:55] man > * [16:56] use /buffer number [16:56] Rat409: thank you [16:56] that's it [16:56] rworkman: According to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/interface.txt, /sys/power/image_size is only applicable to suspend-to-disk. [16:56] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-56-209.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:57] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521522.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:57] xorgconifg: bash command not found [16:57] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] I actually like this nick more. [16:57] xorg-config ? [16:57] think i'll stick it. [16:58] xorgconfig and X -configure are kind of dying tools - everything should be handled on its own [16:58] Nick change: elliot98 -> Jerry87 [16:58] sounds like a nick i seen on UT99 [16:58] if they aren't, or you need something unique, it's best to write a very minimal xorg.conf [16:58] none of those commands work [16:58] did i not install something [16:59] on the initial install [16:59] thrice`, so to get to -current I do as follows? -> # slackpkg install slackware [16:59] ? [17:00] does antiwire still show up? I would like to have a wee word with him [17:00] I hope that I didn't say that [17:00] i seen him last night gem_cat [17:00] gem_cat: yes, he does, he isn't online atm though. [17:00] stunix (i=1000@85.19.222.201) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:00] I will try later [17:00] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] the man page for slackpkg shows the 3 or 4 commands needed to upgrade [17:00] thrice`, im lookin at it right now [17:00] (slackpkg install slackware isn't it :> ) [17:01] i guess i could be misunderstanding it. [17:01] the part of "slackpkg can upgrade the whole distribution" is interresting [17:01] thanks [17:01] # slackpkg install-new [17:01] nemesis1 (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-xyjqibjnjgejwonc) left irc: "sobering up" [17:01] ? [17:02] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/W5Yjlm58.html [17:02] 4 steps [17:02] after updating your mirror file to reflect -current [17:02] ahhh i see what ur talkin about it [17:02] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bbgppeeqmfweeoqc) joined ##slackware. [17:02] anyway, 5:00 and time to go home :) good luck [17:02] update / install-new / upgrade-new / clean-system [17:02] have a cold one for me thrice` [17:03] :) [17:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:03] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-185.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("fades slowly from view"). [17:03] beatzz: try slackpkg --help. it's pretty well explained. [17:03] y0 Rat409 [17:04] hey fire|bird [17:04] woo, i'm back. no more drunken antics ;) [17:04] thanks Rat409 I think i get it, just gata find the -current mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors uncomment it, then run those 4 commands [17:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-241.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] k :) [17:05] right....? o_o [17:05] lol [17:05] jk, im gana try it anywaz [17:06] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:06] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [17:07] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [17:08] you know [17:08] when it realy comes down to it. [17:09] slackware is the easiest OS out there. [17:09] beatzz, i disagree [17:09] just gata learn to do things a little differently [17:09] beatzz, slackware is the most predictable i think [17:09] ok, not easiest [17:09] simplist* [17:09] most simple* [17:09] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] The one that stays out of your way the least, if you want to do things that void warranties. [17:11] who needs warranties. :/ [17:11] (Figurative warranties.) [17:11] veritos, right. [17:11] kapu (n=chatzill@cpe-67-246-8-169.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "^D" [17:12] sweet [17:12] im updateing to -current [17:12] first time ever :> [17:13] :o only 4 packages differnt!? [17:13] and 2 of them were for stuff like kopete [17:13] beatzz, no, all of KDE has been updated. [17:13] hows that gana fix alkolid? [17:13] Twice, in fact. (4.3.2 and then 4.3.3) [17:13] ahh ok [17:13] i see that one [17:14] the "experemental libs" [17:14] what is the common name for the small graphical representation of all desktops on most nix desktops. the thing that you can click on and it takes you to the desktop that an app is running on? [17:14] beatzz: you are going from 13 to current? [17:14] fire|bird, yes sir :D [17:14] kapu, virtual desktops? [17:14] beatzz: There should be much more than 4 packages different. [17:14] pager [17:14] kapu, pager [17:14] pager* [17:14] thats it thanks [17:14] fire|bird, ???? [17:14] duh [17:14] should i run slackpkg update again? [17:14] lol [17:14] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [17:15] i couldn't think of it [17:15] beatzz: you choose a current mirror and then ran slackpkg update? [17:15] anyone had their laptop fail after the recent ubuntu update? [17:15] fire|bird, yes [17:15] gerrh: excuse me? [17:15] gerrh: This is slackware, not ubuntu. [17:15] kapu (n=chatzill@cpe-67-246-8-169.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090702120920]" [17:15] my lenovo s12 won't boot anything regardless of boot order, device connected to either of the usb connectors [17:16] beatzz: and then what did you run after that? [17:16] BIOS issue? [17:16] i knoes, but i figured this be the most likely place to get a random answer. sorry for going offtopic [17:16] fire|bird, im gana pastebin it to ya [17:16] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:16] gerrh:this is not #ubuntu,ask mark not us [17:16] gerrh: We don't support Ubuntu here, Ubuntu has it's own help channel ---> #ubuntu [17:17] how to run a script before other scipts? it seems its not rc.local [17:17] noted [17:17] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/FcDfT956.html [17:17] why not you no liek ubuntu? [17:17] fire|bird, ^ [17:18] cr3rzemjest, what? [17:18] cr3rzemjest, it has nothing to do with liking ubuntu. go ask a slackware question in ubuntu and see what happens [17:18] cr3rzemjest: nobody said they didn't like it, but this is a slackware support channel, NOT ubuntu. [17:18] cr3rzemjest, if you don't get covered in all of the flying feces, that is [17:18] ok then tell me about the script [17:18] cr3rzemjest, It's a drama [17:18] HEYOOOO [17:18] Action: hiptobecubic takes a boq [17:19] i mean startup scripts how to do [17:19] Action: hiptobecubic then takes a bow [17:19] lol [17:19] cr3rzemjest, rc.local isn't scripty enough? [17:19] fire|bird, ok, installing of the 4 packages that # slackpkg install-new gave me is complet [17:19] hiptobecubic: no, it runs last [17:19] beatzz, well -current isn't bleeding. it's just not frozen [17:19] lhasbs (n=lhabs@94.187.91.162) joined ##slackware. [17:19] I'm sorry, I'm running slax, when I start KDE I'm user root by default. So if I do add another user for starting xchat and then su username and start xchat, it says "cannot open display 0:0"...is there a way around this ? [17:20] lhasbs: this is not #slax [17:20] cr3rzemjest, well what do you need to do so early? just go balls to the wall and put it in init [17:20] hiptobecubic, ????????? [17:20] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [17:20] beatzz: ok, I was thinking upgrade-all, for install-new, just 4 is probably right. sorry. :P [17:20] fire|bird, dont scare me like that!!! :p [17:20] beatzz: I didn't mean to, I swar. :P [17:20] swear even [17:21] anyone has a knife? I need to stab someone for using .bmp files instead of .png [17:21] Action: cr3rzemjest looks up "to take balls to the wall" [17:21] Action: deco hands Camarade_Tux a knife [17:21] lhasbs (n=lhabs@94.187.91.162) left ##slackware. [17:21] deco: NO, you don't hand him a knife, good grief. [17:21] evening, slackers [17:21] Action: beatzz hands Camarade_Tux a ....damnit deco beat me to it [17:21] deco: you're an accomplice now. [17:21] fire|bird: :) [17:21] Action: hiptobecubic notes that Camarade_Tux can't tell what it is because of all of the pixelated artifacts [17:21] practor (n=franz@78.158.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] afternoon amazon10x. how are you? [17:21] greetings slackers [17:21] totally unrelated question, but input is much appreciated: i've got a phone interview and i'm trying to figure out if it's a technical interview or not. will it be odd if i ask this in an email? [17:21] yo dawg [17:22] whats slack-a-lackin? [17:22] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [17:22] i'm worried that they'll maybe think that i'm trying to get someone else to do the interview for me or something [17:22] amazon10x, what? a technical interview? [17:22] amazon10x, as in about tech? or as in 'on-the-record' [17:22] fire|bird, upgrade-all had many more to offer :P [17:22] as in about tech [17:22] beatzz: ok, you should be good to go then. :) [17:22] it's for a programming software engineering type job [17:22] cr3rzemjest, it means pedal to the metal. all out. to the max. etc [17:22] as in like, i need more beer to continue this -current update [17:23] amazon10x, then i'd probably assume it's about tech [17:23] amazon10x, if it isn't , i'm sure you'll be able to answer the easy questions about yourself [17:23] the thing is, the "senior recruiter" has been emailing and said "I look forward to speaking with you this friday." would a recruiter know about tech stuff? [17:23] deco: thanks, and take it again, it's full of blood now :) [17:24] Action: Camarade_Tux points the cops towards deco [17:24] Camarade_Tux: keep it :) [17:24] hand it here, i'll get rid of it ;P [17:24] Action: deco gives it to beatzz [17:24] i know people who know people [17:24] Action: Camarade_Tux throws the knife at deco -_- [17:24] Camarade_Tux: watch out, you could stab someone in the eye. sheesh. [17:24] Action: deco stabs Camarade_Tux [17:25] fire|bird: I don't have the knife anymore ;-) [17:25] amazon10x, yes if the senior recruiter is also something else [17:25] Action: beatzz searches the kitchen for the left over vodka [17:25] amazon10x, or not a jackass [17:25] amazon10x: why are you so worried ? [17:26] Action: beatzz is gettin f***ed up [17:26] deco: if it's tech then i need to brush up on some stuff [17:26] java specifically [17:26] k [17:27] i'll log off after 3 shots, as to avoid any kick/bans :p *cough* deco *cough* [17:27] ;) [17:27] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] beatzz: wanna make a joke :) [17:27] about my wife or ur mom!? [17:27] jk :P [17:27] ##slackware: mode change '-o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:27] beatzz: :) [17:28] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090803134719]" [17:28] sory im just excited [17:28] im going -current [17:29] oh my wifes gana be po'ed [17:30] im killin this bottle of her vodka [17:30] vodka + Orange Juice = pwntage [17:31] you should try vodka + vodka [17:31] i drink whiskey stright bro, cant do vodka [17:31] taste like / smells like rubbing alcohol [17:31] gnubien (n=e@231.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:31] slackie (n=x@87.196.168.94) joined ##slackware. [17:31] i've decided to stop wasting my money and just get everclear and something tasty from now on instead of some 25% stuff and pretending i'm an alchemist [17:32] mmm, jungle juice [17:32] had it once, strong stuff [17:33] beatzz, it was the first drink i ever had. my friend said 'hey you want some coke?'. little did i know... [17:33] if its hard-A I prefer bourbon whiskey. Evan Williams if i have my choice [17:34] everclear is corn stalk alcohol right? [17:34] i don't know [17:34] corn sumthin [17:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:35] any of ya'll know how to get slackware to let me double tap on my mouse pad = click [17:35] ? [17:35] beatzz, that's not on by default? [17:35] im shure its something about input device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [17:35] beatzz, you have to fiddle with udev rules for synaptic i think [17:35] That's a Synaptics issue. [17:36] synaptics.... [17:36] mine is single tap [17:36] dont think ive covered that yet [17:36] setting up a synaptics hal policy is "proper" [17:36] something in KDE's system settings? [17:36] well i guess i'll start the big rsync before i try reboot this turd of a laptop [17:36] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [17:36] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.26) joined ##slackware. [17:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] man duel core processors > single core [17:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] i got a brand new laptop thats single core w/ 3gb's ram [17:38] and my 4 year old laptop, duel core 2gbs ram pwntz it [17:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:39] why did you do that? [17:39] actualy [17:39] heres the deal [17:40] practor (n=franz@78.158.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] my co-worker wanted a laptop, so i went with him to best buy to help him get a good deal [17:40] I took the laptop, put kubuntu on it for him [17:40] :/ friends don't take friends to Best Buy [17:40] cause he dosent even know windows, like nothing [17:40] EuroTrash +1 [17:40] EuroTrash, srsly [17:40] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:40] so I tryed to hook him up [17:40] should've grabbed that netbook off of woot [17:40] but the Ethernet controler dident work [17:40] amazon10x, which? [17:40] woot.com [17:41] atl1e :D [17:41] i think it was today [17:41] so i bought it off him [17:41] yeah, it's still up there [17:41] cause i felt f'ed up [17:41] like i messed up his brand new shit [17:41] amazon10x, todays? [17:41] but then i put slack 13 on it [17:41] and now it pwntz [17:41] so now i have 2 laptops. [17:41] we had told you :P [17:41] hiptobecubic: yeah, the one that is up there right now [17:41] i actualy sold him my old desktop w/ 12.2 on it [17:42] which was a beast [17:42] AMD duel core, 4gbs ram, 500gb hd [17:42] I hate amd [17:42] wifi, accelerated graphics card [17:42] why? they out run intel on like any benchmark ever? [17:42] since when is 11.6 still a netbook? [17:42] beatzz, no they don't. [17:42] beatzz: and run hot as hell :P [17:43] snL20: that is way past us, running hot [17:43] hiptobecubic: oh. it has a crappy processor at least, so that probably gets netbook status lol [17:43] AMD is good, and cheap [17:43] :D [17:43] alienBOB, amen [17:43] i'm interested to see VIA's thing [17:43] alienBOB: I had a dual core amd, it was twice as hot as this core 2 duo =) [17:43] i guess in my own experence, ive had 3 CPU [17:43] snL20, and twice as cheap [17:43] cpu's* [17:44] 2 amds [17:44] 1 intel [17:44] i wish i had a nabucho [17:44] is that like the cadalac of cpus? [17:44] Right now, the Intel Core2Duo (and Quads of course) are the best processors you can get. They beat AMD, but not by a lot, and AMD is much cheaper. [17:44] Alan_Hicks, i7 ? [17:44] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left irc: "Leaving" [17:44] and i5 [17:45] Alan_Hicks: :] [17:45] Sometimes AMD processors are faster, sometimes Intel is faster, but seriously... do these CPU flame wars make any sense? [17:45] proly not. [17:45] Alan_Hicks: no, they don't. [17:45] they both work well [17:45] Alan_Hicks: I just like intel better for the temperature =) [17:45] my intel cpu's the one in my GOOD laptop [17:45] that kicks ass [17:45] snL20: There is hardly a temperature difference at all. [17:46] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:46] AMD is faster... as long as it's not on a gentoo box running emacs and pine [17:46] lol [17:46] But yeah, I wouldn't put an AMD in a laptop. The mobile Intel CPUs seem to work a good bit better in that form factor. [17:46] Alan_Hicks: my core 2 due is at 25 Celcius while my amd which I had before that died had twice that iirc [17:46] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [17:46] hello, anyone using kmail with gpg encrypted messages? [17:46] snL20, my turion64x2 is running at 40 right now :D [17:46] negitive, thunderbird <--- [17:46] Alan_Hicks: My laptop is amd :P [17:46] P4C0: Not I. Why don't you ask your real queation? [17:46] claws ftw!!!! [17:46] hiptobecubic: thats nice :] [17:47] Alan_Hicks: good point [17:47] fire|bird: Amen on claws. [17:47] or possibly 28.. i'm not sure which 'sensors' cpu counts [17:47] hey all, guess what [17:47] in this new crapy job i got here in TX [17:47] I devliver / pick up EMC racks all the time [17:47] and im in a data center like every day [17:47] well, kmail doesn't ask for passphase, just says Bad passphrase when I try to open an encrypted message [17:47] beatzz: And we are so impressed by that. [17:47] beatzz, where in tx? [17:47] hiptobecubic: I guess my amd was of the older type :P [17:48] P4C0: Hmm... has this recently started or did it begin as soon as you set this up? [17:48] Alan_Hicks, no...i just am so jelious of the people who get to work there every day [17:48] hiptobecubic, we do all our stuff in Austin, but i live in San antonio [17:48] there seem to be this bug about it: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92619 but old version, I already tried launching gpg-agent with no luck [17:48] claws looks pretty nice, but as i only use gmail i don't have a reason to use it. [17:48] Alan_Hicks: first time I tried it [17:48] hiptobecubic: sylpheed? [17:49] Hi Folks, back from maths [17:49] hey, if i started a qmail server, would some of you get some accounts on my email server? [17:49] snL20, what? [17:49] snL20: sylpheed and claws are separate apps. [17:49] beatzz, wy? [17:49] they aren't combined anymore [17:49] beatzz, why* [17:49] beatzz, i can! [17:49] fire|bird: aaah ok :P [17:49] just for the EXP of administrating an email server [17:49] P4C0: Hmm... does it ever prompt you for the password? Did it ever? [17:49] beatzz, LOL. yeah sure i'll filter all my email through you while you practice. that sounds like a great idea [17:49] :D [17:49] beatzz, do you have any domain? [17:49] beatzz: If you started a qmail server I would shoot you in the head. [17:49] Alan_Hicks: i just encripted an email and sent it to my own account [17:50] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:50] P4C0: Didn't ask you for the password when you setup GPG in Kmail? [17:50] Alan_Hicks, what u want me to open up my SMTP and POP3 ? [17:50] This will be fun. [17:50] Alan_Hicks: with old version... it prompt when i sign [17:50] I'm not a kmail user, so I'm just guessing at possible causes. [17:50] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521522.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [17:50] nop [17:50] P4C0: Of course. signing requires use of your private key. [17:51] hiptobecubic, wont be for a while, till i trade this laptop for a older desktop at the local CPU shop [17:51] I need to burn Knoppix to disc, then boot it, copy it to flash media to make the flash media Knoppix, plug THAT into my netbook, do the resizing and whatever, then switch flash media and boot the Slackware installer. [17:51] they will proly rip me off but w/e [17:51] Alan_Hicks: hmm interesting [17:51] beatzz: I want you to grow a brain before you become an e-mail admin and become yet another source of spam. [17:51] :'( [17:51] owch [17:51] Alan_Hicks: i just tried to send the message, signed and got a popup: signing failed: bad passphrase [17:51] Alan_Hicks: never asked for the passphrase itself [17:52] my server will have NO SPAM!!!! [17:52] ccfreak2k: the Slackware installer has parted - you can use that for the resizing [17:52] beatzz: let us ahem (ab)use your open relay :P [17:52] alienBOB, but can it resize NTFS partitions safely? [17:52] whats that ;P [17:52] (assuming the disk has already been defragmented properly) [17:53] P4C0: You running 13.0 or -current? [17:53] beatzz: google [17:53] Alan_Hicks: 13.0 [17:53] whos seen those old mobster movies!? where in the court room they have a piramid sceme of the mob's chain of command!? [17:54] u know like, god father > bosses > sub bosses [17:54] Alan_Hicks: but... I was on -current before 13.0 [17:54] I wana see slackwares hierarchey [17:54] like, Pat > AilenBOB > ... [17:54] beatzz, 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 [17:54] lol [17:54] I thought for sure 13 would've gotten skipped, though. [17:54] P4C0, cuurrent before? where using 12.2? [17:54] cose now current is after 13 [17:54] now thats just a series of real numbers... [17:54] acidtripper: yes [17:54] i want names [17:55] beatzz: alienBOB is under Pat !? :D [17:55] with pictures above them [17:55] P4C0: What version of gnutls do you have? [17:55] You want names? Go use Ubuntu then [17:55] isent Pat > * [17:55] ? [17:55] Alan_Hicks: gnutls-2.8.4-i486-1_slack13.0 [17:55] beatzz: sure =) [17:55] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:55] Slackware Woody Allen :P [17:55] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:56] a good name lol [17:56] With tapes, /dev/nst0 is the tape drive and /dev/st0 the changer? [17:56] veritos, using tape drive? [17:56] P4C0: Try going back to gnutls-2.6.6 that shipped with 13.0. I'm not certain that will help, but it can't hurt. [17:56] a bit antique [17:56] acidtripper, yes [17:56] ccfreak2k, why? [17:56] ccfreak2k, also, save a cd and use unetbooting or something [17:56] ubnetbootin* [17:56] Channel flood from hiptobecubic -- kicking [17:56] UNETBOOTIN [17:56] hiptobecubic kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:56] lol [17:57] veritos, for what? [17:57] fail [17:57] acidtripper, backups at work [17:57] the system works! [17:57] and the answer is that what i said is correct [17:57] how many space can a tape drive handle? [17:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] acidtripper: depends [17:57] ours (LTO3) is 400GB before compression [17:57] the new standard is 800GB before compression (LTO-4) [17:58] thanks Alan_Hicks, I will try [17:58] LTO-5 is in the works; that will double the capacity again [17:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:58] welcome back hiptobecubic :) [17:58] poor hipto :'( [17:58] stupid network [17:58] hiptobecubic: slackboy did it, blame him. :P [17:58] hiptobecubic: stop flooding! [17:58] lot, i thought was less than that... speedy or slow transfer rate? [17:58] :D [17:58] i lagged like... two minutes and then it tried to spam it all :D [17:58] haha [17:59] man slackpkg upgrade-all is takein forever [17:59] :/ [17:59] acidtripper, we get about 40 MB/s [17:59] beatzz, yeah it's slow. they are working on the algo [17:59] hiptobecubic, because I'm installing to a netbook that lacks a CD-ROM drive. [17:59] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] is not an antique storage system? or don't have idea? [17:59] I'm also stuck in the old ways. [17:59] acidtripper, people still use tape [17:59] hiptobecubic, you can download the slackware iso and use unetbootin to make it bootable from flash [18:00] no burning necessary [18:00] veritos: isnt everyone using san's =) [18:00] wow, vodkas stronger than i remembered [18:00] is there any package of unetbootin? [18:01] i couldn't make it work on slack [18:01] snL20, we have a SAN but back it up. [18:01] acidtripper, it's just one binary. you build. I had no trouble [18:01] veritos: heh ok :] [18:01] acidtripper, i have unetbootin, works well [18:01] maybe was couse i didn't have compat32 [18:01] i will have to try it again [18:01] you can also just dump the files onto flash and use syslinux, unetbootin doesn't do much more than that anyway [18:01] beatzz, 32libs installed? [18:02] man i was so baked when i got that workin [18:02] i have no idea. [18:02] i was smokin medical buds [18:02] beatzz, as much as we all love controlled substances, there's no need to brag [18:02] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] medical? [18:02] in WA yea. [18:03] still have my card [18:03] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] where are you living? [18:03] just moved to TX [18:03] how much you can ask for? [18:03] 3 months ago roughtly [18:03] explain where? [18:03] and why you can access to thar [18:03] in WA i am allowed to have 24 ounces of dried marijuana on me at any given time [18:03] and 15 plants [18:03] lol. no way there is medical marijuana in TX. My city JUST went wet. [18:03] in any stage of development [18:03] no, [18:03] TX has no medical [18:04] WA dose [18:04] alonge w/ some other states [18:04] TX is texas? [18:04] yes [18:04] yes [18:04] wa? [18:04] Washington [18:04] Washington [18:05] RF ? [18:05] is allowed in Washington? [18:05] and what problem do you have? [18:05] yes, Washington has medical marijuana [18:05] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] hiptobecubic: Radio Freqency. :P [18:05] :D [18:05] well, thats debatable, but what i got my card for is chronic pain [18:05] mmmm [18:05] thats what everyone gets their card for [18:05] if u have 200 bucks [18:05] and go to CBR medical [18:05] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:05] u get ur card [18:05] :D [18:05] ;) [18:06] cool [18:06] but you dont have any problem? [18:06] yea i cut the shit otua my hand [18:06] here we smoke paraguay bud [18:06] do they give them out for 'excessive boredom' ? [18:06] P4C0: Any change? [18:06] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:06] Alan_Hicks: nop [18:06] or here is called "faso paraguayo" [18:06] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:06] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:06] acidtripper, where is here? [18:06] no, in WA they dont prescribe marijuana for mental issues ...YET [18:06] CA dose [18:06] Argentina [18:06] i'll go home, thanks for the help [18:06] South America [18:07] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [18:07] marijuana is compressed [18:07] acidtripper, ah [18:07] in kinda blocks [18:07] nasty... [18:07] dude when i left there [18:07] yes not good quality [18:07] the dispencerys were still oepn [18:07] i was getting Blueberry silver haze [18:07] Aff-Gooie [18:07] grand daddy purple [18:07] AK-47 [18:08] all kinds of dank [18:08] but i herd the week after i left [18:08] they dispencerys got BUSTED [18:08] cause the dumb ass was going to Orgegon to buy the pot [18:08] and got pulled over in OR [18:08] so they busted the shops....fags. [18:08] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] lol [18:09] and what about black market? [18:09] the way its supposed to work, is each patcient is to grow their own pot. [18:09] either that, or have a "Designated provider" [18:09] i have some seeds and i will have some bud for summer [18:09] who grows it for you [18:09] go to WA and u can grow them in my name [18:10] i will fill out a desinated providers fourm for u [18:10] ;) [18:10] legaly [18:10] anyways, i gata stop [18:10] im thinkin about buds now [18:10] nearly 3 months sober since i moved here to TX [18:10] the 17th will b 3 months [18:11] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] what up Slackers [18:11] longest i've gone in 10 years [18:11] no lie [18:11] yo lotec :D [18:12] acidtripper, http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516 [18:12] find out if ur state has medical [18:12] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-282562.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:12] but if you'r in other state and police catch you with bud [18:12] i dont want the buds anymore dude [18:13] fucks w/ my life big time [18:13] hey guys can we cut the weed talk [18:13] join a private channel or something [18:13] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-285211.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:13] sorry xsamurai [18:13] indeed [18:15] so...how bout them slackwares!? [18:15] no [18:15] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [18:16] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-252.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:17] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@c-98-244-79-20.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] lol [18:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [18:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [18:17] ? [18:18] sup hip [18:18] beatzz: i did not think cali had that bad of incarceration for mj [18:19] they dont?? [18:19] CA's govoner arnold swarteneger is moving to have it completly de-creminalized last i herd [18:20] and anything under 21 grams is just a misdiminor if u dont have medical [18:20] if im correct... [18:20] Federal law supercedes state law in this case, where the mandatory minimum sentence is 3-5 years. [18:20] grew up there i'd hope so. [18:20] well eviljames [18:20] At least, if my reading of American drug law is correct... [18:20] true as that may be [18:20] I can find you a quote from the DEA's top dog [18:20] Which makes me so happy to live in Canada, where anything under 1oz (28g) is a $250 ticket :P [18:20] where he says specificaly [18:21] "I will not be going after medical marijuana paticents" [18:21] same in CA...only its only $70 [18:21] :P [18:21] Oh, medical is legal here. [18:21] i know [18:21] i know i grower in Canada [18:21] realy cool dude [18:21] got over 7 cards he grows for [18:22] have they passed the medical research limit yet? [18:22] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-118-80.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:22] he was all exciteds bout that last time i talked to him [18:22] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:22] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] No clue, I don't follow that closely.. there are fighting recommendations from our House of Parliament (who want increased penalty) and our senate (who say outright legalization is in order) [18:23] suposedly anyone w/ a college degree in horticulture/agrigcultule devlopment can grow as many plants as they want [18:23] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:23] for "reaserch pourpouses" [18:23] slackware rules to some extent [18:23] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [18:23] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:23] cr3rzemjest: to all extent. It's the only Linux worth using. [18:24] how about Urbantu??? :D [18:24] here here eviljames !!! [18:24] Action: beatzz raises glass to eviljames [18:24] eviljames, where u at in CA? [18:24] british colombia? or Quebec? [18:25] West coast, Vancouver. [18:25] no shit? [18:25] but, for example, after fresh install i run kdm as root, log in as normal user and there is no sound for no reason. if i login in tty and startx then no problems [18:25] startx > kdm [18:25] cr3rzemjest: that is a FAQ [18:25] toofer (n=toofer@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] i didnt know [18:25] cr3rzemjest: check links in /t. plus anything that alienBOB sends your way. [18:26] too many links [18:26] wuts /t? [18:26] i dont know which one too choose [18:26] beatzz: to get the topic of the channel. [18:26] 8to [18:26] are you in the audio group? [18:26] * t :Unknown command [18:27] actually, I'm pretty sure the answer is no. "add yourself to the audio group" [18:27] cr3rzemjest: I am recommending all of them. Odds are you'll mitigate more than one headache if you read and bookmark them all. [18:27] beatzz: try /topic then. [18:27] booyah! [18:27] fire|bird, > myself [18:27] We knew that. [18:27] just giving respect where respect is due... [18:27] slackie_ (n=x@87-196-215-201.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:27] .... [18:27] beatzz: you just did a "dog in the bathtub" to yourself? [18:28] ??? [18:28] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] i dont allow dogs in the place where i clean myself [18:28] so im not shure what u mean [18:28] fire|bird will probably be the first to tell you that with dilligence and reading you can go from n00b to reasonably expert in short order. [18:28] cr3rzemjest, while you're at it, you'll probably want to add yourself to the video, plugdev, etc. groups. [18:28] oh, and i will [18:28] very soon [18:28] ccfreak2k: ok [18:29] im going to order the Slackbook tommorow when i get payed [18:29] beatzz: can you buy me one :) [18:29] cr3rzemjest, eg, all of the groups "adduser" tells you to if you take a moment to read it :) [18:29] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:29] deco, if u send me 70 bucks [18:29] slackie (n=x@87.196.168.94) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] deco, or however much it cost ;P [18:30] if i buy a hard copy [18:30] I can study it while im siuting in the truck all day [18:30] siting* [18:31] do the profit of the slackbook goto Pat? [18:31] wait, but there's no '-a' in usermod, and it tells me to use commas not space [18:31] beatzz, you have a msg [18:31] cr3rzemjest, use gpasswd; gpasswd -a user group [18:31] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [18:32] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] oh, Alan_H and co I suppose. [18:33] jonsmith1982, i'd imagine he gets something out of it. [18:34] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [18:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se expired. [18:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [18:35] Action: gerrh mourns the early death of his ideapad s12 [18:35] Alan Jackson owns country music... [18:35] gerrh, just put slack on it [18:35] gerrh, it will come back to life [18:35] if it would load any bootloader at all, i would [18:35] :O !!! [18:36] wait [18:36] i have had that problem befor [18:36] thrice`: thx [18:36] its something to do w/ the MBR [18:36] u installed the bootloaded to NOT the MBR [18:36] not unlikely, but why doesn't it accept any bootable media at all? it isn't just the harddrive that won't go go go [18:36] ok... [18:36] hows ur BIOS [18:37] ? [18:37] can u select the boot order? [18:37] sQuEE (n=narya@host121.201-253-142.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [18:37] i've tried any possible combination, currently the harddrive on the way bottom of the order [18:37] ok and ur Flash drive wont boot? [18:37] even pxe won't show the diagnosis text [18:37] that has SLAX on ir correct? [18:37] it* [18:38] nope, it had ubuntu running fine on it [18:38] s/u(r*)/you$1/gi; [18:38] what machine are u on now? [18:38] obviously somethign w/ network connectivity [18:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [18:38] download and install SLAX onto that flash drive of yours [18:39] i have 2 different usb keys here and a usb harddrive, a sd card. all boot fine on other machines. no matter the boot order or if i select which device to boot from through menu, the machine halts right after post [18:39] numlock key and caps key is dead. won't light up when i push the keys. [18:40] hows the Firmware on your CMOS? [18:40] if you cant boot from any media, it MUST be a bios issue [18:40] there's 1 newer, but can only be flashed through windows if i am to believe the support site [18:40] because no other software has been loaded at that point [18:41] yes, i'm thinking the same. [18:41] try to update your CMOS firmware [18:41] can't boot anything :D [18:41] google your mobo's make/model on the machine ur on now [18:41] make/model + firmware [18:43] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:43] or befor u go into upgradeing firmware [18:44] run through ur BIOS via CMOS and make shure eveythings ok [18:44] if theres an option to restore BIOS defaults do it [18:44] sQuEE (n=narya@host121.201-253-142.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:47] restored it a bunch of times, has no effect [18:47] and there's no way for me to upgrade the firmware as there's no update feature within the bios [18:48] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-285211.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] how do i find out if i have full duplex audio card, BTW I don't get why none of the distros i've tried have multiple-source playback enabled by default? (like it is in windows :P) [18:48] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-292727.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:49] cr3rzemjest: did you try yet if SLackware plays sound from multiple sources? [18:49] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:50] isn't that pulse-audio or maybe jack, not alsa stuff? [18:50] colmcille (n=colmstar@78.32.184.48) left irc: "Leaving" [18:51] screw this machine. rma bigtime. [18:51] i'm done [18:51] :> [18:51] ;(( it does, LOL :D ;D i just didn't mount the other partition ... [18:51] omg [18:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:53] just ignore what i said [18:53] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] slackware > anything [18:55] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:55] well, alsa isn't as broken as people say it is [18:56] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] Anybody ran into the following issue with wicd? Importing pynotify failed, notifications disabled I just installed Slackware64-13.0 and I'm having this problem. I don't have it in 32-bit 12.2 before [18:59] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] # slackpkg clean-system [19:00] good [19:00] init 6 [19:00] brb [19:00] when i return i will be in -current [19:01] :P [19:01] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware. [19:03] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] cr3rzemjest: glad you like it so far [19:05] alienBOB, you are the man [19:05] What did I do? [19:05] alienBOB, whatever u did to contribute to Slack [19:05] if nothing else for ur wiki [19:06] mad props dude [19:06] (much thanks to you) [19:06] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:06] ... [19:07] Well, I did finish my Trappist beer, so I am about to fall over. Not like nemesis1/mrselfpwn though... I'll part graciously [19:08] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:11] alienBOB: Familiar with the wicd problem at all? [19:11] alienBOB: Thought I'd ask in #wicd .. [19:11] alkos333, wicd refuses to run with that error ? [19:12] thrice`: It's like it runs, but it doesn't detect any wireless AP when there are plenty [19:13] go to preferences, and be sure that the correct Wireless device is set (mine is wrong by default) [19:15] OMG [19:15] Darn it.. [19:15] lol [19:15] There were mixed up.. [19:15] hahahahahaha [19:15] this is noob farm worthy [19:15] the notify error just means you don't have a notification daemon running (not fatal) [19:15] Trappist beer [19:15] wtf is that [19:15] gana have to get some [19:15] and you won't get little pop-ups or w/e for changes [19:15] if it f's up AlienBOB [19:15] dude [19:16] -current pwntz [19:16] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:16] beatzz, till it breaks something for a week or so. [19:16] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] so I've been told. [19:18] jonsmith1982, yea, but see, It wont change again untill I slackpkg update /upgrade-all [19:18] so i can just leave it right here [19:18] w/ everything they way i like it [19:19] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [19:19] v4nelle (n=van@adsl21-114.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] how will you know the next time you slackpkg update/upgrade-all, nothing is left broken? [19:22] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:23] pupit (n=pupit@79.101.219.231) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:24] pupit (n=pupit@79.101.219.231) joined ##slackware. [19:24] beatzz, how is kde 4.3.3 anyway? [19:24] jonsmith1982, seriously it kicks ass [19:24] alienBOB: lol ^^ (at 01:07 for when you'll see that on tomorrow morning :) ) [19:25] the login screen is pimp as shit [19:25] alienBOB: btw, which Trappist? [19:25] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:29] beatzz: yeah, the login screen in the 4.3.x series is nicer than the 4.2.x series imo. [19:30] alienBOB: I don't think my actions were un-gracious [19:30] There's no more rc.modules in 13.0? Are we supposed to use something else now? [19:31] alkos333: I have rc.modules here, on 13 [19:31] Action: edman007 never used it [19:31] hey edman007 [19:31] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090803134719]" [19:31] hi [19:32] beatzz: beer produced near where alienB0B lives ;-) [19:32] (benelux) [19:33] fire|bird: Alright [19:33] Camarade_Tux, lemme have some [19:34] edman007: where are you living? [19:34] near nyc [19:34] going up to ct on the weekend, and DC next week [19:35] edman007: shipping is too expensive ;-) [19:35] plus I don't have any in the fridge [19:35] Camarade_Tux, where are you? [19:35] I do have 17 bottles of various beers but no trappist [19:35] edman007: france ;-) [19:35] i work with a (kinda) french guy... [19:36] i'm sorry for you [19:36] I drank a trappist on yesterday though [19:36] edman007: hahaha ^^ [19:36] edman007: but see, we have actual beer [19:36] oh crap, I have to force shutdown this machine, I had forgotten [19:36] we have imported beer [19:37] and thats mostly what i drink... [19:37] from where? [19:37] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:38] france ^^ [19:38] Camarade_Tux, wait for something catastrophic to do it for you [19:38] edman007: want to sleep without noise [19:38] edman007: you drink french beer? [19:38] I don't think so, there aren't that many french beers [19:38] I didn't even know the french could make beer. [19:38] let's remount / as ro [19:39] there are some, not that many [19:39] mrselfpwn, i don't claim to drink a lot, but usually Corona, Heineken, or Guinness , none are made in the US [19:39] maybe I can halt nicely actually, gonna see [19:39] heineken? ='( [19:39] those are pretty good [19:39] Camarade_Tux, beer brewery* [19:39] heineken is good [19:40] Camarade_Tux, yes [19:40] nooooo! [19:40] that's not good beer! these are amongst the cheapest here :o [19:40] (brb) [19:40] heineken gives me the most gnarly farts the next day. [19:40] heineken isn't bad. [19:40] its not bad [19:41] but it makes my ass stink like crazy [19:41] better than budweiser [19:41] budweiser < * [19:41] budweiser sucks [19:41] beatzz, well bud light is worse... [19:41] nere, beer = Ale, all those you mention are Lager. [19:41] i'm trying to not smell my ass. [19:41] but! [19:41] but you can drink a lot of it and still drive [19:41] Action: deco doesn't drink [19:42] miller genuine draft isn't bad, though gives you a headache from hell the next day. [19:42] deco = boring ;P [19:42] New Belguim Brewery is good imo [19:42] deco is a cool guy [19:42] mrselfpwn: :) [19:42] and my only friend [19:42] Fat Tire is their popular brew [19:43] ** [19:43] but they have some very good seasonals [19:43] fat tire is good [19:43] Fat Tire owns [19:43] very good amber bock [19:43] anyone know a cheap pci sata card to work on nix? [19:43] try their Hoptober / 2* Below [19:43] but right now [19:44] i just bought a pint of some Bourbon Whiskey [19:44] which i intend to drink w/ my wife befor i plow her for a few hours [19:44] :x [19:44] then give her a 'dog in the bathtub' [19:44] Action: beatzz thanks lotec [19:44] lol [19:45] brb gana pour me a bourbon + 7up [19:45] anyone know a cheap pci sata card to work on nix? [19:45] lotec: It seems that ##slackware has become ##slackware-beer atm, so now may not be the best time to ask. :p [19:45] nitro25: i ate a spaghetti sandwhich :P [19:46] grrr wtf [19:46] haha [19:46] nix_chix0r: i ate a spaghetti sandwhich :P [19:46] tab completion fail. :P [19:46] fire|bird: well who the hell is that ? [19:46] lol [19:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [19:47] oh sorry wrong channel lol [19:47] ooops [19:47] hey neonflux, how are you? [19:47] deco: fail :) [19:48] fire|bird: :) [19:48] deco, heck yeah! [19:49] hi fire|bird, I'm doing good...you? [19:49] nix_chix0r, hey [19:49] nix_chix0r, send me beer [19:49] hai edman007 [19:49] Camarade_Tux, is refusing [19:49] neonflux: doing great, thanks. :) [19:49] Action: nix_chix0r dcc's edman007 beer [19:49] :) [19:49] sweet [19:49] gn all [19:49] night beatzz [19:49] fun chatin w/ ya [19:49] and thanks for the help to get me to -current [19:49] peace [19:49] <3 [19:49] beatzz: see ya [19:50] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [19:51] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] ok, just testing the autojoin ##slackware on xchat [19:52] gn [19:52] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:52] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] nix_chix0r: you stopped wearing your glasses? [19:53] no i wear them [19:54] okay [19:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:55] nix_chix0r, modeling glasses now? [19:55] yeah, she's a sunglasses model down at Walmart now. [19:55] Well, model/greeter [19:56] hurrrr [19:56] edman007: no point. she makes every pair look good. [19:56] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-118-80.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [19:56] fire|bird, haha [19:56] nix_chix0r, so you still have crying baby issues? [19:58] naw [19:58] he's cool now [19:58] nix_chix0r: Is he reading the slackbook yet? [19:58] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] naw he rather eat the book to absorb info [19:59] lol [19:59] not to mention, a ton of fiber. [20:00] yeah no wonder he screams when he poops [20:00] lol [20:01] http://kimag.es/share/32844500.png [20:01] lovin' my arch setup [20:01] nix_chix0r, you should just feed him thumb drives, he can achieve a higher input data rate [20:01] haha [20:03] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:05] tightvnc's server functions as its own X server. I want one that exports my current X session over VNC. Which ones would people recommend for this? [20:07] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@unreachable.vpi.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:08] slackie_ (n=x@87-196-215-201.net.novis.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [20:09] Jerry87 (n=windows@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [20:11] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [20:13] flytronix (n=flytroni@189.65.22.235) joined ##slackware. [20:13] sagival (n=L0@athedsl-292727.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] icarus, nice and clean [20:15] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-112-250.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Don't seem to be able to find that. Googling for Icarus VNC doesn't help, and [[ ! -e a SlackBuild ]]. [20:16] heya,slackers...how's all? [20:16] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] hey MLanden, great here. you? [20:16] Burpppp [20:16] heyo [20:17] Doin' great despite the weather thanks fire|bird [20:17] so what are we talking about now? we back to slack related stuffs? [20:17] MLanden: yeah, weather wasn't that great today here either, cold, windy, cloudy, bleh. :P [20:19] anyone have a recommendation for a cheap ie under 50 bucks pci sata card for nix? [20:20] fire|bird: Have you tried goggles music manager? [20:21] MLanden: haven't yet, no. Have you? [20:21] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166020227.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:21] lotec: still asking lol :P [20:21] yeah..it's pretty tight and light on memory [20:23] i figured i would try :D [20:23] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:24] MLanden: cool, I'll have to give it a try. [20:24] egg has those syba ones, there cheap say they work in nix, but there is allways an IF [20:25] is anyone having trouble with php's file_get_contents() method for http:// files on Slackware64? [20:26] It works on slackware32, but on slackware64 'http' is not included as a supported wrapper [20:27] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-147-227-131.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:27] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:29] http://pastebin.ca/1669197 [20:30] Did I mess up my update? Note: Slackware64 is on current while Slackware32 is on 13.0 [20:31] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] flytronix (n=flytroni@189.65.22.235) left irc: Client Quit [20:31] can anyone point me to documentation for installing slackware with a siI 3124 raid controller? [20:31] it's not working and google doesn't have much to say [20:32] maddslacker, what kernel you using during install? [20:32] hugesmp [20:33] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:33] smallgoat_ (n=andy@host86-162-130-33.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:34] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:6f) joined ##slackware. [20:35] vendor's website says it should be supported in the 2.6+ kernel [20:35] and I see the module being loaded [20:35] but it doesn't register the raid 0 array [20:37] lotec, it's loading ata_piix and siI24 [20:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:39] I got my replacement TS-44 Deluxe handset today [20:39] and this one actually works. [20:39] yea i am looking, i dont see much on it [20:40] antiwire: awesome [20:40] lotec, yeah, same issue [20:40] you using 13? [20:40] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.29.70) joined ##slackware. [20:40] howhard is it to make a bootable software raid 0 with mdadm? [20:40] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] maddslacker you using 13? [20:40] yup [20:41] have you tried 12.2 by chance? [20:41] no, but I see where you're headed [20:41] different kernel, yes? [20:41] yeppers [20:41] just a guess, see if it works, then just update to -current [20:42] yeah, but maybe blacklist kernel to be safe [20:42] o yea, i would not do the kernel. [20:42] i build those myself [20:43] or not [20:43] <- is lazy [20:43] heh [20:43] well if the kernel works and you dont need other mods let it ride [20:44] exactly [20:44] but hell you can build a kernel just bring over the old .config and run make oldconfig [20:44] yeah, that's true [20:44] this will be a mythtv box, so technically I could upgrade to 13, but maybe keep the old kernel? [20:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:44] or would that get buggered [20:44] ? [20:45] hoho (i=root@s59.nlserver.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] klk tamo high [20:45] tu lo sabeee [20:45] en freenode, dando ride [20:45] compadree!! [20:46] this is going to end poorly [20:46] me or hoho? [20:46] indeed [20:46] sup [20:46] :P [20:47] what is the name of that network company that almost sits on one of the hubs in America [20:47] 3wire? something like that [20:47] dounds right [20:47] S [20:47] bbiab [20:48] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-112-250.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:48] yea it is not 3wire [20:48] 2wire is a networking company bah i hate when i cant rember something [20:49] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:49] Level 3> [20:49] ? [20:49] bigpaws_ (n=bigpaws@208.111.244.194) left irc: "leaving" [20:49] the company name? [20:50] yeah [20:50] i thought they were a wisp [20:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_3_Communications [20:52] that might be it, i thought there were more tier 1 providers though. [20:55] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] Does anybody here use a swap file instead of swap partition? [20:55] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [20:56] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [20:56] eviljames: I do [20:56] antiwire: pros/cons that you've noticed? [20:56] It simplified / encryption [20:56] not cons really, imo [20:56] not/no [20:56] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:57] I have many G of ram, seems like I'm using ~12MB of swap space.. [20:57] 2GB of ram and: Swap: 1023 0 1023 [20:57] that's free -m [20:57] My system with 512 often hits swap though [20:59] Gutzmek (n=here@ip174-70-131-136.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] hrm, I don't have a system with < 2GB, so I don't see swapping that often it seems.. [21:00] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:01] saujiro (n=saatulih@125.164.117.125) joined ##slackware. [21:01] eviljames: if you wanted to try to clear that 12MB just swapoff / swapon to your swap [21:01] sloppy swappy [21:01] saujiro (n=saatulih@125.164.117.125) left ##slackware. [21:01] Well, I'm probably going to be doing some ungodly multiboot madness.. so I'm slimming down drives atm. [21:02] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:03] if I can get away without a swap partition, that's one more slice to use elsewhere [21:03] every bit helps [21:03] yup [21:03] like my 800GB that I can't get to cuz the raid controller isn't being recognized [21:04] weak. Check if it is on Solaris' hcl [21:04] andarius_ (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] huh? [21:04] greetings and salutations [21:04] sup dawg [21:04] sadly me, i am tired [21:04] maddslacker: Solaris publishes a hardware compatibility list, if your controller is on that you may be able to access the drive that way. [21:04] well I was installing slackware, no dice [21:04] maddslacker: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Solaris+hcl [21:05] just booted ubunt cd and it picked it right up [21:05] well, then I don't have any more good avice :P [21:05] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] I just don't understand how solaris helps me with a slackware issue [21:05] good evening everyone [21:06] maddslacker: I wasn't considering the slackware issue, I was considering the 'getting the raid card to see a drive' issue [21:06] oh [21:06] card is fine [21:06] hi guys, i am running slack64 + multilib. i'm stuck : i'm either asking really stupid questions, or no one wants to help . i have a tar ball with no documentation, and i want to compile it. when i try ./configure, i get: no such file. when i try just make, i get: Building vultures-2.2.0 to build NetHack in your home directory: make nethack-home so i try make nethack-home and i get sh: sys/unix/setup.sh: No such f [21:06] ile or directory . why ? [21:06] or os to see raid card, or whatever [21:06] slack doesn't see the controller's raid [21:06] maddslacker: you using the huge.s kernel? [21:06] Rat409, no, hugesmp.s [21:06] does the file ./sys/unix/setup.sh exist? [21:07] blkdg: ^^ [21:07] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] in the tarvall i got eviljames ? [21:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:08] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [21:08] blkdg: yeah, the makefile is calling a shell script.. [21:08] no i don't see it in the tarball [21:08] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [21:08] blkdg, what are you building specifically? [21:08] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.50.62) joined ##slackware. [21:08] woah [21:08] I'm saved! [21:08] bash: cd: ./sys: No such file or directory [21:09] maddslacker, vultures eye for nethack [21:09] is there a slackbuild for it? [21:09] bosse_ (i=1000@c-94-255-240-134.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [21:10] maddslacker, i tried the slackbuild for 12.2 but it crapped out because of other issues someone helpfu in slackbuilds # said it was a qt4 issue [21:10] ok gents, ubuntu pulls up the raid controller correctly, slack does not...kernel version issue? [21:10] or module autoload issue [21:10] so slack 64 implies 13, so yeah, I can see issues with a 12.2 slackbuild [21:10] the software included in those thomson xdsl products is a piece of crap, I was opening some ports and then its http server stoped working and then I tried to do a system reboot through telnet and it totally hanged [21:10] so i checked and the folks at nethack # said vultures eye came with nethack without the qt linkning. [21:10] so.. [21:10] Anyone know the reason for CONFIG_SECURITY_DEFAULT_MMAP_MIN_ADDR=4096 in slackware kernels on 13.0 ? [21:10] yep, it is the way it is loading the modules maddslacker. witch is what i thought the problem might be [21:11] bosse_: it has to do with a kernel exploit. [21:11] lotec, it will make me nauseous to have to run buntu, is there a workaround do you think? [21:11] bosse_: Don't change it. [21:12] maddslacker, so i thought i'd get the package, which i did from http://clivecrous.github.com/vultures/ [21:12] tvn2009 (n=tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:12] maddslacker, did you try 12.2? [21:12] lotec, downloading as we speak [21:12] eviljames you know what exploit so i can check it before i "echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr" [21:12] but i can't compile it you see. [21:12] maddslacker: i would bet that will work [21:13] buntu is kernel 2.6.31.14 [21:13] bosse_: An important one (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2692) [21:13] I was thinking newer vs older [21:13] kernel I mean [21:13] eviljames thanks alot for your help :) [21:13] bosse_: Why are you wanting to set it to 0? [21:14] blkdg. there is a make file in there [21:15] well it has to do with dosemu not running with it not set to 0, but i will google for an fix for it and cross my fingers [21:15] lotec,i don't know what to do with it. i tried to run ./make that didn't do anything. [21:15] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:16] blkdg, the usual sequence is ./configure && amke [21:16] make [21:16] and thenn make install as root [21:16] does ./configure throw errors? [21:16] right, but .configure sasys no file! [21:16] here: [21:17] ./configure [21:17] './' [21:17] bash: ./configure: No such file or directory [21:17] autogen ? [21:17] ls that directory [21:17] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "End Of Line..." [21:17] blkdg, you need to cd into the linux dir of that after you untar it [21:17] i'm doing the ./configure as root, in the extracted tarball [21:17] right [21:18] they are just patches in there [21:18] i\m there! [21:18] pwd confirms it [21:18] it is a patch. [21:18] pardon? [21:18] share the link to the place where you got the source [21:18] i dont know what this is for, so hard for me to help more [21:18] eviljames i will set the value to 0 since this is an single user system, so local exploits won't matter this time. But thanks again [21:18] yes: [21:18] it is a patch. not a ./config or a make [21:18] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [21:18] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [21:19] this download is used to patch another file that you then run ./configure && make && make install [21:19] http://github.com/clivecrous/vultures/tarball/master [21:20] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: [21:20] yep, that is what i downloaded also [21:20] so stupid question #36, where's the other file? [21:21] looks like you are suposed to patch slash'em or NetHack with that file [21:21] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] then it gives you an graphix display for it [21:21] onced again, i dont know wtf this is [21:22] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:22] but i asked in # nethack if vultures came with nethack and they said yes. i tried this route because i could not build net hack from source either. [21:22] thanks for your help lotec [21:22] ./make ? [21:22] here's that error andarius_ [21:23] Nick change: andarius_ -> andarius [21:23] so, is there a way to install slack with a newer kernel than what is on the dvd? [21:23] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [21:23] ok I'm sure there is, does someone have a link to a howto? [21:23] Building vultures-2.2.0 to build * Both in your home directory: make home so i try make home and i getL [21:24] i would recomend installing, then updating. i think there is a readme in one of the dirs that tells how to make your own boot image [21:24] Setup NetHack build environment ... sh: sys/unix/setup.sh: No such file or directory [21:24] andarius, I can't install, that's the issue [21:24] see what i mean andarius [21:24] raid controller isn't recohnized [21:24] blkdg, I tried it and got the same error [21:24] thanks maddslacker i'm lost [21:25] maddslacker: i missed a lot, is the controller supported by the kernel version in use? [21:25] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:25] some are not automaticaly loaded [21:25] andarius, according to the vendor, yes [21:25] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bbgppeeqmfweeoqc) left irc: "oops no Screen" [21:25] and I see a driver loading for it, but it seems to be the base driver, not the raid driver [21:25] After the latest ff update through slackpkg, flash no longer works in ff for me. Any suggestions? [21:26] so it sees the phys drives, but not the array [21:26] lordkelmain, re-install flach [21:26] what controller ? [21:26] flash [21:26] andarius, siI 3124 [21:26] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-71-183-41-241.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-gfmjcngdtrnnuhvg) joined ##slackware. [21:26] maddslacker, just did, no go. [21:26] That sounds like a fakeraid chipset [21:26] lordkelmain, um, mine didn't do that, so I'm not sure [21:27] maddslacker, it shows up in about:plugins, but I can't play any flash content in ff. [21:27] XGizzmo, perhaps, but ubuntu works with it [21:27] maddslacker: a quick look gives me the impression it is one of those fack raid controllers, doing it all in the driver. if so then linux will not like it [21:27] slightly off-topic question, but I thought I'd see what the slackers have to say about it. I'm using gettext to translate my web site. Is it a bad idea to use gettext to wrap large paragraphs of text that need to be translated? [21:27] lordkelmain, dumb question, have you restarded ff? [21:27] anyhow folks, thanks again. [21:27] maddslacker, several times. [21:27] blkdg, sorry, we weren't more help [21:27] lordkelmain, i'm stumped [21:27] why did the topic just pop up [21:27] Including before and after re-installing flash. [21:27] and I blame adobe, not that it helps..heh [21:28] maddslacker, heh, it was working fine before my latest upgrade-all. [21:29] no , you guys always help. [21:29] -current or 13.0? [21:29] anyone here know about gettext? [21:29] and did you re-install the same flash or grab newest? [21:29] maddslacker: you more than likely will have to do some dm-raid voodooo foo to get it to work. or just use kernel sofware raid. [21:29] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:30] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [21:30] software raid for raid 0 is a PITA [21:30] and I want hardware raid like I had in windows [21:31] no harder than raid 1 or 5 [21:31] looking at the controller spec, even when the drive loads and does it, it is still software raid [21:31] could be, I know some lsi chipsets work that way [21:31] you wont get hardware raid with that chipset [21:31] maddslacker, I think 13.0. [21:31] lordkelmain, you *could* try -current [21:31] the magic is in the driver not the hardware. [21:31] I'm runing it with no issues [21:31] right [21:32] so just like the lsi megaraid then [21:32] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] XGizzmo, no harder than raid 5, totally different than raid 1 [21:33] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [21:33] raid 1 you can boot off one of the drives, and load the software raid later [21:33] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:34] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:34] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [21:34] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [21:36] maddslacker, it was layer3 i was thinking of earlier [21:36] lotec, cool, I though ti was [21:42] maddslacker, the interesting thing is, sites detect that I have flash... it's just that the browser won't play anything. [21:42] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [21:42] that is weird [21:42] as root how can I see the passwords rather then just x.? or is thatnot possible and I should change the password? [21:42] i'd do -current, but that's jsut me [21:43] maddslacker, I'd rather not risk breaking anything else at the moment.... [21:45] check all the usual directories and remove the flashplugin and then reinstall it, is what I woudl try next [21:45] Yeah, that's what I'm doing. [21:46] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:46] i flame ubuntu all the time over at #linuxn00b, so it's only fitting that I need to use it on my mythtv box [21:46] oh well [21:46] lappy will be slack forever [21:47] lordkelmain: then try a /sbin/ldconfig after [21:47] good for it maddslacker ;-) [21:47] heh [21:48] I even got mythtv and the ivtv drivers loaded on my slack laptop to test, I was so impressed with myself [21:48] I bet! [21:48] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-227-5.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:49] I ordered a USB tuner and then found I already had a PCI hauppauge card [21:49] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-227-5.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] I'm using it with connection to my Apple //e ;-) [21:49] so I can use the usb with mythslack on the laptop...heh [21:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [21:51] that is... *Dumb* Terminal ;-) [21:51] So after uninstalling it and removing all the libflash files I refreshed about:plugins to see flash still there. [21:51] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:51] After removing it from /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.5/plugins, it's gone. [21:52] Rat409, so I run ldconfig with any specific parameters? [21:53] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-76-250-117-84.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Hello all. [21:53] no just as posted [21:53] lordkelmain, reinstall [21:54] first [21:54] Oh. [21:54] might have to close,restart browser also [21:54] definitely [21:54] I haven't used a modem in years.... Now I need to set up a winmodem on slack13. Is there a tool to detect the modem and write the udev rule? (It's an nForce3 modem if that matters). [21:54] Well, here goes. [21:55] And we have youtube again. [21:55] Rat409, I didn't run it after re-installing. [21:56] yeah if it installs cleanly, shouldn't have to [21:56] and well done, btw [21:56] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] i would if it didnt show in about:plugins. otherwise no need [21:57] Did youtube change the right click menu for videos recently? I don't remember these options. [21:58] hm... now I can't remember what I needed flash for to begin with. [21:58] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:59] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] time to go to a movie...laters [21:59] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:59] Enjoy. [22:00] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:00] enjoy [22:00] enjoy [22:01] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [22:01] fire|bird: you're awfully quiet. nix_chix0r must have a calming influence :) [22:02] haha [22:02] lol [22:02] How's it going Rat409? [22:02] or intimidating :P [22:02] lol [22:02] good, bored and i'm sure you can tell [22:02] Can someone help me with fluxbox. I some how hosed it. Styles and background do not set completely. [22:03] silent_contender: completely? [22:04] Rat409: yeah, bored here too. I'm just messing with kde's Marble. It's really nice. I hadn't messed with it in a while and was reminded of it when I was reading about openSUSE 11.2 release. [22:04] Rat409, ahh. I have the kdm background as my wallpaper. The style isn't rounding the corners, etc. [22:04] fire|bird: indeed its nice like a 2-d google earth [22:05] Rat409: yeah, it's really improved since I last tried it. Also, looks like it can use openstreetmap now. [22:05] Action: nix_chix0r hulk smash! [22:06] silent_contender: hmm well in my experience some styles don't like newer fluxbox versions,many styles are dated. have you restarted fluxbox after applying a new style? [22:06] Was working an hour ago. [22:06] Rat409, I made my own and play with some init, apps settings. Rebooted and hosed. [22:07] chopp: :) [22:08] Rat409, so yes I have restarted fluxbox [22:09] well you could always mv .fluxbox and then copy over customizations.one by one etc. i don't use slack daily but still use it occassionally. i generall run cvs/svn/darcs/etc on my wm's [22:10] chopp is now known as deco_beat_it [22:10] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [22:10] i have had many themes/styles that just look poorly,never made mu own tho. [22:10] Rat409, where can I find a new .fluxbox? I've tried rm -r fluxbox to reset everything, but no look. [22:10] yes [22:10] *luck [22:11] duh typoslack/fluxbox.. it gets created from umm /etc/skel? [22:12] or its in /usr/share/fluxbox [22:13] sorry,i multiboot,get things mixed at times [22:13] Rat409, I just let it recreate all my .fluxbox files. I'm not understanding what you're askin. [22:13] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:6f) left irc: No route to host [22:14] the samples are in /usr/share/fluxbox. [22:14] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:15] right and with a pristine config the style still is broken? [22:15] Rat409, the style works, but everytime I login in I have to manually set the background and reload config to make things work exactly. [22:16] ahh i use feh to set my background,or fbsetbg -f wallpaper.foo in startup [22:17] Rat409, I have to manually set it each login using fbsetbg. I'll be right back. I'm going to try logging fluxbox. [22:17] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] you have kde,xfce,gnome-slack-build? i use dbus-launch-kded4 & to apply kde settings for use in flux [22:18] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] Rat409, the only error fluxbox errors are "Failed to read: session.screen0.titlebar.left Setting default value" [22:20] minux (n=minux@c-76-105-7-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [22:21] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "ha oui, je me casse regarder un film" [22:21] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:21] silent_contender: talking about .fluxbox/usermenu or something? [22:22] oh, .fluxbox/init [22:22] briareus, I'm having trouble getting the wallpaper and style to set themselves correctly [22:22] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-189-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:22] session.screen0.titlebar.left: Stick [22:22] that's what I currently have, never adjusted it AFAIK [22:24] has anyone here installed windows after installing slackware? [22:24] hmm mines Stick also [22:24] briareus, I don't quite think that's the prob. I have my stick,iconify,max,close. [22:24] minux: virtual or on host [22:24] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [22:24] briareus, I'll try though. [22:25] silent_contender: maybe it has to be a leading Capital letter? [22:25] briareus, im not sure I understand. I have a pc, which currently has slackware on the harddrive, I want to partition the remainder of my harddrive to install windows. [22:26] briareus, in what file? [22:26] minux: you can do it, i hear its easier in win7, but older versions are greedy and want to be in the first 1024 of the hd. there are ways to fool it, but I tend to just install windows up front, then linux behind it. (linux doesnt care) [22:26] minux: you could just go with virtualization if your system has some gusto [22:27] silent_contender: .fluxbox/init [22:27] <[ briareus@slackbook ]> ~/.fluxbox$ grep session.screen0.titlebar init [22:27] session.screen0.titlebar.left: Stick [22:27] session.screen0.titlebar.right: Minimize Maximize Close [22:27] never changed those myself, AFAIK [22:27] briareus, I have read several guides on how to dual boot windows and linux. However, all these guides instruct to install windows first then linux so that lilo or gurb installs over the MBR. But in my situation I am doing it backwards. [22:27] minux: ah, no problem [22:28] briareus, I'd like to have a native install of windows for games and such. [22:28] minux: install windows, but windows will overwrite MBR, then use linux install cd to re-run lilo [22:28] you might have to chroot into linux install to do it, I'm unsure how slackware handles that. Some other distros have a 'rescue' menu (F1 or F2 or something) that will "reinstall bootloader" [22:29] Guest59504 (n=sidmario@201-92-115-42.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:29] briareus, I see. Can I reinstall lilo with the slackware 13 live dvd. I only have the windows cd and slackware live dvd [22:29] briareus, just tried no luck. [22:29] minux: I will let someone more knowledgeable answer that [22:29] briareus, thanks for the help. [22:29] silent_contender: hmm [22:29] minux: np [22:30] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [22:30] minux: can I offer a piece of advice?> [22:30] minux, I believe you can use the slack cd to boot your system and then install lilo from there. [22:30] briareus, sure. [22:30] Guest59504 (n=sidmario@201-43-55-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:30] silent_contender, do you know of a site with the instructions or documentation? [22:31] minux, to boot to your system from the cd? or install lilo? [22:31] minux: do it however you want, but if I was doing that, I'd make at least two partitions for windows: one for the OS itself (10 or 15GB or whatever works) and a second one for data. I put all my music and such in a second partition that both linux and windows can get to [22:31] that way, if you have to nuke windows or reinstall (likely at some point) you don't have to worry about all that stuff [22:31] just a thought. [22:32] you don't even want to know my partition table :) [22:32] briareus, yeah I am aware of that. At the moment, I have partitioned 20gb of my 80gb harddrive for slackware. I am planning on partitioning 20gb for Windows OS and the rest as data for slack and windows to share. [22:32] briareus, I've given up partitioning between windows and linux. I'm just lucky I have two HDDs. [22:33] silent_contender: since I went windows virtual, I just have virtualbox mount all my partitions for windows to use [22:33] silent_contender, I am unsure of how to do either with the slackware 13 live dvd. [22:33] they just show up as network drives in windows [22:33] briareus, I wish my p4 could handle it. [22:33] yeah the c2d helps [22:33] linux root=/dev/sdx,y or hdx,y [22:34] on the kernel line [22:34] minux, yes Rat409 beat to it. The cd will tell you once it boots. [22:34] I can't believe I used to have 5 linuxes plus a windows, all with interlocking shared drives. I just wanted to see how crazy I could make it and admin it. I had one system with over 40 partitions over 2 drives [22:34] excuse i mean huge.s or whatever root=/dev/foo [22:35] then rerun lilo [22:35] I still have that box cold somewhere, just waiting to fire up RedHat7.3 and Mandrake8.2 and such other shite. [22:35] briareus: wow,thought i was bad bot even close to 40 parts [22:36] minux, you'll probably have to run lilo-config. Maybe also edit the lilo.conf if windows is not on the first partition/hdd. [22:36] bot/not [22:36] Rat409: after that, I started to make multiboots that all shared a /home and a /music [22:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] cut down on that a lot [22:36] y0 hitest :) [22:36] now I just do slackware :) [22:36] indeed [22:36] silent_contender, I can handle configuring lilo.conf. I just don't know how to reinstall it to the MBR after I have installed windows alongside slackware. [22:37] minux: someone in here knows [22:37] hiya fire|bird:) [22:37] just not me [22:37] hitest: How's it going? [22:37] minux, I believe you run lilo? Some one correct me if I'm wrong. Don't want to nuke his mbr. [22:38] minux: did you put windows up front on the hdd or are you going to trick it [22:38] fire|bird: it is going very well, ty! you? I'm on my 3rd glass of wine:) [22:38] silent_contender: yes, but *how*? can you boot the install DVD and there's a 'rerun bootloader' dilio? [22:38] I can't remember [22:38] hitest: great, thanks. :) [22:39] 1) pop in DVD 2) follow the instruction on screen how to "boot your slackware installation in a pinch" 3) rerun /sbin/lilo [22:39] briareus, no I didn't put it in front. I have /dev/hda1 as swap and /dev/hda2 as my root for slackware. I plan on making /dev/hda3 for my windows os. [22:39] briareus, there is option to boot you hdd from the cd. There's a prompt: "boot: ..." and above it are some parameter to boot. [22:39] minux: XP? Win7? [22:39] BP{k} has it exactly. [22:39] briareus, xp. [22:39] minux: ah, see BP{k} above [22:40] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "testing fluxbox again" [22:40] BP{k}: what's the {k} [22:40] (the machine before {l}?) [22:40] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] briareus: {k} = kool, BP{k} is 1337 and spells it that way. :P [22:41] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/isolinux/message.txt <-- read that .. it explains it all. [22:41] ah, 2.6.31.6, but I could have sworn that I got an email from kernel that said 2.6.31.7 was out [22:41] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [22:41] seriously though, I'm guessing it stands for kethry. ;) [22:41] hey twolf [22:41] BP{k}, thanks for making my words intelligible. [22:41] silent_contender: no problem. :) [22:42] So, anyone use fluxbox regularly here? Still having problems after login with fluxbox. [22:42] silent_contender: I use it for years, but I've never seen that error [22:42] any recent config changes? [22:43] silent_contender: what problems are you getting ? [22:43] briareus, many. Just made style and did some changes to init and the sort. Rebooted and starting having all these problems. I've already reset every setting. [22:43] 20:20 < silent_contender> Rat409, the only error fluxbox errors are "Failed to read: session.screen0.titlebar.left Setting default value" [22:44] silent_contender: want my copy of init? [22:44] deco, my wallpaper won't show (stuck with kdm bg), styles are not exactly right, and transparency is gone. [22:44] briareus, sure. So I can check. [22:44] silent_contender: set fbsetbg in your xinitrc file , that's what i do with wm's [22:45] BP{k}, 3) rerun /sbin/lilo. What is the command exactly? I have never done this. [22:45] silent_contender: msg me your email? I have the email ready, just need an addy [22:45] does anyone know if there are problems building 2.6.31 in slackware current or 13 i havent tried yet just wondering on ppl's success's failures [22:45] deco, I do to, but I have to do it everytime I login. [22:45] briareus, bd6366@gmail.com [22:45] do that again [22:45] Linux slackbook 2.6.31.5 i686 GNU/Linux [22:45] oobe: no problems [22:45] silent_contender: no, in your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc add fbsetbg etc... [22:46] silent_contender: sent [22:46] cool im download slackware current now im looking forward to it i haven used it in years [22:46] briareus, thanks. [22:46] silent_contender: I haven't edited my init (not intentionally anyway) since I installed flux here in slack13 [22:46] deco, I have too? Hmm...I never have and did have problems until now. [22:46] silent_contender: that's what i do and get perfect results .... [22:47] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-147-227-131.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:47] silent_contender: diff our two init files [22:47] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-152-229-172.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:48] whoops, I was stupid and saved over. :-( [22:48] bah, prolly fine [22:48] well, I'm going to giving logging in another shot. [22:48] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:49] I didnt think to ask if he's loggin in as root, but it doesn't look like it [22:50] deco: you put that after: exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox or how? [22:50] briareus: before exec [22:50] fbsetbg /path/to/yourfile.png or whatever? [22:51] briareus: yeah [22:51] gonna try that now for next boot [22:51] braintix: boot? just restart x [22:51] grrr sorry wrong nick [22:51] braintix: ^ [22:51] again grrr [22:51] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] deco: well, I am on a laptop and I'm highly mobile, I reboot a lot [22:52] :) [22:52] k :P [22:52] silent_contender: progress? [22:52] briareus, getting somewhere. I just replicated a seg fault [22:52] deco: I marvel when I have an uptime over a day [22:52] /usr/bin/fbsetbg: line 529: 6103 Segmentation fault $WPSETTER `eval echo $option` "$wallpaper" [22:52] briareus: wel it's a lappy :P [22:53] silent_contender: and where do you have fbsetbg starting? [22:54] silent_contender: in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc like deco said? [22:54] briareus, oh that's what deco meant. [22:54] deco: the only bummer is that for two years, this battery would last ~3 hours, but lately I've watched it degrade. [22:54] briareus, nvm, not what I thought he meant. [22:55] silent_contender: yeah, he puts it somewhere near the end but before: exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox (I think that's what he does) [22:55] --its what I just did :) [22:55] briareus, do I absolutely have to edit xinitrc? I think I had it working without. [22:55] briareus: worked for you ? [22:55] [22:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:56] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-152-229-172.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:56] I am about to check. I didn't irssi in screen so I'll bbiab [22:56] k [22:56] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-152-224-60.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:56] briareus, deco I think I found how to do it without "session.screen0.rootCommand: fbsetbg -l" [22:56] ....I ... never heard of that [22:56] I don't think you can run an exec like that inside of the command [22:56] OH WAIT [22:57] maybe you can but you prolly need the path [22:57] (to /usr/bin/fbsetbg not just 'fbsetbg') [22:57] briareus, I got it out of fluxbox doc. [22:57] maybe [22:57] oh. I shall shut up now :) [22:57] silent_contender: just give a try to what i said [22:57] deco, I will if it doesn't work. [22:58] silent_contender: ok [22:58] logging out [22:58] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] me too, brb [22:59] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] holy, I just realized, I don't know how to restart X in slackware this way [22:59] background's set :) [22:59] briareus, what way? [22:59] I'm used to just ctrl alt bkspace or something [23:00] but in slack13 my ctrl alt bkspace doesn't work [23:00] hmm [23:00] minux (n=minux@c-76-105-7-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:00] briareus, your ctrl alt bkspace doesn't work? hmm mine does. How do you restart X? [23:01] silent_contender: I haven't had to in slack13 yet [23:01] first time right now. I've been so mobile that I just reboot a lot [23:01] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:01] deco: any idea ? [23:02] gemcat (n=gem@207.119.18.185) joined ##slackware. [23:02] just do from another vc [23:02] briareus: what version of slackware are you running ? [23:03] hi antiwire [23:03] briareus: nvm just saw [23:03] braintix: check your xorg.conf if you have one [23:03] it's disabled there [23:04] wow, this is odd. I'm in tty3 and I can't seem to kill x, even as root, or to kill slim, not even with a -9 [23:04] and if I try any other vt I come back to X [23:04] I'm just not used to how slackware runs X [23:04] ok, checking [23:05] I don't see it in xorg.conf. Maybe in inittab? [23:05] briareus: no it's in xorg.conf [23:05] briareus: it's called zap something [23:06] or ctrl+alt+F2 then login as root do a telinit 2 [23:06] trying. [23:06] ctrl alt f2 has no effect [23:06] antiwire, I put another wireless router in my network and it goes on like butter [23:06] ctrl alt f1 [23:06] well any virtual-console [23:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:08] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] telinit 2 && slim restarted it [23:09] but my fbsetbg didn't work. I'll have to tweak that [23:09] thanks all :) [23:09] thats a wrapper generally using Esetroot iirc [23:10] ah [23:10] briareus, a quick question. Did you ever try rounded corners in fluxbox? [23:10] I wonder if I can use feh, but since its before fluxbox, dunno if feh will work like that [23:10] silent_contender: no [23:10] i use feh in all my wm's [23:10] in your xinitrc? [23:11] in your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc I should say? [23:11] or in your .xinitrc [23:11] in wm start files or .xinitrc yes [23:11] briareus, ok. That's only thing not working. Thanks for the init [23:11] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "switching servers..." [23:12] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Rat409: before your exec /foo/foo/wm? [23:12] i made a fehbg in ~/bin containing: eval `cat $HOME/.fehbg` & [23:13] interesting [23:13] thats the last wallpaper set with feh like fbsetbg -l [23:14] is anyone using linuxwacom? [23:14] good grief, troy doesn't stay in here long enough :\ [23:14] gemcat: yes [23:14] briareus: the exec wm line must always be last. you can use also like (sleep 5 && fehbg) & [23:14] cool [23:14] hey vbatts, how are you? [23:15] I used the slackbuild to make a package but the wacom driver seems not to have been made [23:15] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "night" [23:15] gemcat: using slack huge kernel? [23:15] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:15] gemcat: I use [M] in the config for the linux wacom driver [23:16] fire|bird: i've been a nut job here lately with the day job thing. how about you? [23:16] vbatts: doing great, thanks. Was just messing with kde's Marble map app. [23:16] you recompiled briareus ? [23:16] yeah I roll kernels as they come out [23:17] rolling 2.6.31.6 as we speak [23:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:18] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [23:18] giuppy (n=giuppy@host75-79-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:18] who is using google wave? [23:18] cryptic0: slackytude but he is not here [23:18] not I. Google hasn't invited me. [23:19] gemcat: nice! [23:19] deco: it's not that great really [23:19] cryptic0: it's neat eye candy [23:19] I set up google wave a few months ago when I was invited, but I can't for the life of me remember any of it, never used it [23:19] cryptic0: i don't care [23:19] i just got back from the local brew house [23:19] Also, I wonder if everyone gets different functions turned on [23:19] Action: gemcat offers antiwire a virtual whisky [23:20] fire|bird: the marble app is coming along, are you doing anything particular interesting with it? [23:21] vbatts: not really. I had seen it on the openSUSE 11.2 page, so I thought I'd check it out. I hadn't looked at it in a while. It can use openstreetmap maps now. It's really developing into a nice app. [23:21] vbatts: what stuff do you see under settings? [23:21] cryptic0: I know that slackytude said that wave was *really* slow. [23:21] gemcat: have you used linuxwacom before? [23:21] for the record antiwire the Belkin FD57230 has a prob that some people seem to say can be fixed but noone says how [23:22] gemcat: I wrote a howto for setting it up but for a distro, but there are linuxwacom tools/config on it [23:22] http://titanomachy.net/titanowiki/Wacom_BAMBOO_in_SourceMage_GNU/Linux_on_Inspiron_1420n [23:22] gemcat: good to know, thanks [23:22] I have udev rules and linuxwacom commands on there and whatnot gemcat [23:23] gemcat: are there any firmware updates available for that model/version? [23:23] briareus, I went to slackbuild and got the script and ran it - it gives me the man pages but no driver - first try - will try again [23:24] fire|bird: yeah, its slow and not really all that great. basically I am not seeing much functionality right now [23:24] cryptic0: yeah, I'm sure there's still much work to be done, but could become really nice and useful. [23:24] antiwire, some of the posts indicated there was a way to fix the firmware but I could find no flash [23:25] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-151-51.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] shameless plug for my local microbrew house http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/1112091938.jpg [23:25] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) joined ##slackware. [23:25] gemcat: grep -i CONFIG_TABLET_USB_WACOM /usr/src/YOURKERNEL [23:25] or just grep -i tablet /path/to/that/.config [23:26] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] save the ales, drink more beer! [23:27] \o/ [23:27] Specifically dark beers like Guiness or Killian's Irish Red [23:27] Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout [23:28] now we're talkin [23:28] oatmeal?? [23:28] Hoegaard .. a belgium white beer. [23:28] hell yes, it's awesome [23:28] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:28] that sam smith's oatmeal *is* awesome [23:28] someone suggest me a beer that's dark, but midly chocolatey sweet, not like guiness. [23:29] Action: godling stabs daylight savings time [23:30] antiwire: Oatmeal Stout is best just slightly cooler than room temp but not as cool as the fridge [23:30] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:31] cellar temps ftw [23:31] great for storing dead things [23:32] cryptic0: Xingu [23:32] at that point, the yeasty beasties better be dead [23:32] hey, wasn't there a patch to Slackware's timezone data for PDT? [23:32] last year, iirc [23:32] Xingu is made in Brazil - it's an excellent black beer. [23:33] really? never heard of it, but then I don't know much about beers [23:33] antiwire: I've been watching this show Three Sheets and the host has had plenty of beer with live yeast. It was very cloudy. [23:33] Xingu is good for sure [23:33] It's definitely worth finding. [23:33] It's carried locally here in Alabama, so I suspect most other places will have it or can get it [23:33] briareus, grep finds nada [23:34] godling: bottom fermenting yeasts usually end up in the final product and it's all good, more nutritional value [23:34] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [23:34] I first tried it in São Paulo, and I was hooked :) [23:34] after all, that was the whole reason behind beer [23:34] beer lasts longer than bread on a boat [23:34] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-76-250-117-84.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [23:34] antiwire: I've never had anything like that, I think. [23:35] gemcat edit your /path/to/.config such that CONFIG_INPUT_TABLET=y and CONFIG_TABLET_USB_WACOM=m then: make modules && make modules_install [23:35] or just reroll the whole thing, whichever [23:35] For the record I think it's awesome that a Wikipedia search for Guinness just takes you to the Guinness beer page without ado. [23:35] gemcat: perhaps you need a newer kernel anyway for wacom to be in there [23:35] If the PDT data was fixed then why is my clock broken? :( [23:35] godling: agreed. [23:36] godling: ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org ? [23:36] IPA came about after they realized that the hop oil helped to preserve the beer/ale. During long ship rides it's important to have a high calorie source of nutrition that won't spoil in the middle the trip [23:36] godling: oh, sorry you meant the PDT setting [23:36] briareus: sure, that's the easy way out [23:36] yeah briareus, my clock didn't handle the timechange well [23:37] ok briareus - I will try the make modules route [23:37] gemcat: do you get anything with: grep -i tablet ? [23:37] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-169-114.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] because if not, you might not have it available in that kernel version [23:38] brian183 (n=brian@98.195.170.136) joined ##slackware. [23:38] you should at least get CONFIG_TABLET is not set [23:38] if not, newer kernel [23:38] I know its in the 2.6.31 series for sure [23:39] antiwire: if you like booze: http://www.hulu.com/three-sheets [23:39] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:40] brian183 (n=brian@98.195.170.136) left ##slackware. [23:40] my kernal is linux-2.6.27.7 [23:40] hmm, do you even get a "CONFIG_TABLET is not set" when you grep for tablet? [23:41] not a thing with grep -i tablet /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7 [23:43] hmm, methinks you need a newer kernel. I don't have that one around anymore, so I can't check for you [23:43] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:43] you can always fire up menuconfig and see if its under device drivers->human interface devices->tablets [23:44] I have no other kernel - I will think about it tomorrow - menuconfig is a good idea I will try that too [23:44] gemcat: pm? [23:44] is late here [23:45] anyone in here familiar with oracle? #oracle is dead [23:46] you said it brother [23:46] (undead undead undead) [23:48] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) joined ##slackware. [23:48] gemcat (n=gem@207.119.18.185) left ##slackware ("fades slowly from view"). [23:50] If I used screen, what keys would change between the different ones? [23:50] ^a - n [23:51] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.29.70) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:51] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:51] jescis: aka .. screen(1) [23:51] can it be configured to use only typewriter keys^ means alt right BP{k} ? [23:51] oops [23:53] ^ does not mean alt .. no. [23:53] ctrl? [23:53] that's right m:) [23:54] caret usually stands in as control key [23:54] thanks godling [23:54] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/4083931_400.jpg [23:55] The Apple //e has no alt key propper :\ [23:55] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] antiwire: very nice. i like that one [23:56] hehe [23:56] though i understand why it works so ;) [23:58] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) joined ##slackware. [23:58] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-146.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Fri Nov 13 2009