[00:00] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1692 [00:00] fresh off the presses [00:00] tail is my favorite app to view logs;) [00:00] s/app to view logs;)// [00:00] rworkman, could work [00:01] dios_mio: I have some good reading for you. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf [00:01] alright, i instaled icu4c, but i get this error when compiling sometihng that needs it: configure: error: Cannot find icu-config. The ICU library is needed. [00:01] maybe i need to restart? [00:01] Dominian: you've got a new quote submission too :) [00:02] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:02] already.. [00:02] I was just there ont he site [00:02] wtf [00:02] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-222.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [00:02] Reticenti: does /usr/bin/icu-config exist? [00:02] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: "Build. Explode. Publish." [00:02] Dominian: I *just* submitted it. [00:02] oh god.. now I see why [00:02] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1693 [00:02] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Reticenti: sometimes you need to make symlinks if the author had different defaults for library paths than where slack looks for it. i've noticed that there are still some issues with the system figuring that all out. just rebuild your locate db, find that file, and symlink it to /usr/lib/icu-config [00:03] WHAT? [00:03] dios_mio (n=freelove@88.241.142.91) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:03] er... [00:03] i explained that badly [00:03] but im tired [00:03] Dude, go to bed. [00:03] slack doesn't look for anything [00:04] oh, boy, here we go. [00:04] you have to "configure" your software/libs to look where Slackware wants you to look :) [00:04] thats what i meant [00:04] I'm not going with you. :) [00:04] its just easier to explain [00:04] rworkman: that dir does not exist [00:04] [ in bed ] [00:04] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Client Quit [00:04] Reticenti: are you sure you *installed* the package, or did you just *build* the package? [00:04] BP{k}: good timing there :) [00:05] #1686 + (0) - Added: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:21:55 UTC [00:05] < BP{k}> it makes you sound a bit like a twat if you confuse a tweet for a twit. [00:05] Action: dartmouth suggests rebuilding the locate db and just finding icu-config and then symlinking it to /usr/lib/icu-config [00:05] I think you were talking to me [00:05] !!1 [00:05] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [00:05] is noobfarm.org slow for anyone else? [00:05] googling: no [00:05] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.88.75.113.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left irc: Success [00:06] dartmouth: at least two problems (among others) with that: [00:06] test34: quite possible. ;-) [00:06] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] dartmouth: 1) if it doesn't "just work" then you're masking a bigger issue by doing that [00:06] that fixes all of my 'intalled but not found' issues and i dont have any problems at all on my system [00:06] who the fuck would call a message posted on twitter a tweet [00:07] julioams (n=julioams@189.159.8.16) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ooop sorry [00:07] julioams (n=julioams@189.159.8.16) left ##slackware ("i-name: @id*julioams"). [00:07] dartmouth: 2) locate(1) will find the icu-config binary in the build directory (e.g. /tmp/somewhere/icu4c-1.0) and then you'll create a link to that in /usr/bin. Then it *still* won't work, because all of its needed libraries are in that build directory [00:08] oh, no, man, i didn't mean from the build directory [00:08] dartmouth: 2a) then you'll have to add /tmp/somewhere to LD_LIBRARY_PATH [00:08] its my understanding he installed it [00:08] godling, noobfarm wont even load for me [00:08] and it just put stuff in the wrong place [00:08] dartmouth: 2b) then you'll someday go cleaning out /tmp, and that will be gone, and icu-config will be broke again [00:08] test34: uhm, lets see, oh yeah about everyone on twitter and the twitter founders do. [00:08] diven: me either [00:08] DIY Electric El Camino: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/09/electro-camino/ [00:08] test34: lonely men who spend too much time online. thats the only answer. [00:08] dartmouth: 2c) and then a malicious user puts a custom library in /tmp/somewhere because he sees it in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and boom, you're rooted. [00:09] oh, i didnt install the icu4c ptgz, i just built it [00:09] rworkman: you're spinning on something i didnt say [00:09] lol [00:09] Reticenti: :) [00:09] oh for the love of-- [00:09] haha [00:09] ... [00:09] well [00:09] 04:04 < rworkman> Reticenti: are you sure you *installed* the package, or did you just *build* the package? [00:09] hold on [00:10] dartmouth, that sounds about right but even then it sounds wrong [00:10] dartmouth: you didn't *need* to say it. It was implicit in your suggested "solution" [00:10] BP{k}, where are the twitters owners from ? [00:10] Earth. [00:11] japenese earth ? [00:11] ok, yheah, taht was my problem, i forgot to isnatllpkg the tgz after i built it lo [00:11] installpkg* [00:11] test34: Don't be getting all specific on me - I'm not a geographicalisto. [00:11] test34: the Virgo Supercluster [00:11] ;-) [00:11] ok ok [00:11] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [00:12] sorry [00:12] rworkman: nah, the issue i was talking about is fine to solve that way. sometimes it puts it in a dir that isn't in the LD lib path on slackware but is on other systems. i think its safer to symlink them into place one at a time then your suggestion of adding entire directories. even in those cases its in dirs that already exist, have the same perms, et al. if it weren't, you'd be right. [00:12] i'll be in the corner banging my head on the wall [00:12] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [00:12] how is slackware 13 working for you [00:12] i love it [00:12] BP{k}: where, specifically? ;P [00:12] last time i sued slack was 10.1 [00:12] evilazeee (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:12] used* [00:13] dartmouth: I'm right regardless - I wasn't suggesting that the environment variable change was a *good* way either. The *proper* solution is to fix the build process to put stuff where it's supposed to be. Anything else is a halfass hack that *better* be temporary if you value your system's stability. [00:13] slack was also my first venture into linux [00:13] and your sanity. [00:13] Action: dartmouth notes: linux could use a standardized restructuring of our entire library storage and location schema [00:13] and rworkman's sanity... [00:13] my last time was 12, first time around 4 [00:13] godling: -ENOEXIST [00:14] rworkman: i dont value my sanity [00:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] dartmouth: huh? [00:14] dartmouth: clearly. [00:14] godling: Virgo Supercluster, Local Group, Milky Way Galaxy, Orion Arm of the Milky Way, Gould Belt, Local Bubble, Local Interstellar Cloud, Solar System, Earth, Northern Hemisphere, North America, United States of America, California, San Francisco. [00:14] BP{k}: LOL. NICE :) [00:14] dartmouth: what would you suggest changing? [00:14] slackware 5 & 6 was private beta [00:14] BP{k}: what street? [00:14] got an address? [00:14] :D [00:15] godling: 539 Bryant St., Suite 402 [00:15] godling: a big enough nuke, and you don't need the exact address [00:15] Urchlay: I like the way you think sir! [00:15] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) left irc: Operation timed out [00:15] godling: Twitter, Inc. 539 Bryant Street, Ste 402, San Francisco, CA 94107, US Telephone: +1.4158962008 fax: +1.4158962062 [00:16] BP{k}: my FPU doesn't have enough precision, those phone numbers get rounded off to +1.416 [00:16] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:16] Urchlay: we just seem to have too many different directory trees for storing and retrieving those resources. I don't have a 'plan' for a new structure, but i imagine it would involve a much simpler tree. [00:16] BP{k}, what about intergalactic telephone [00:16] Why is it that all of the people wanting to *set* standards don't yet understand the ones already in place? [00:17] Action: dartmouth ducks for being a heretic [00:17] Urchlay, hehe [00:17] Zozma (n=Winter@68-113-251-253.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] test34: Why do you need that, just tweet the creators. :P [00:17] rworkman: broken and shitty is broken and shitty. that's like saying 'why wont you eat the whole turd before you decide you dont like it? i did.' [00:17] dartmouth: /lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib are simple enough (and one config file to rule them all, /etc/ld.so.conf) [00:17] fire|bird++ [00:17] rworkman: I didnt realize you were a admin(?) for slackbuilds, I just got the slackbuild for icu4c, and you approved it =D [00:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Reticenti: yes. If you do a whois(1) on the domain, you'll understand more. :) [00:18] fire|bird, you meant twit [00:18] oh, are you the owner? [00:18] heh [00:18] rworkman: simple, because if they understood the ones in place they would be less motivated to need new ones most of the time :) [00:18] BP{k}: They even have a link to e-mail law enforcement. :P [00:18] dartmouth: one who doesn't understand something is far from qualified to decide whether it's broken. [00:18] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-67-171-67-171.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] gsan (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [00:18] rworkman: no he's a bot we wrote to pretend to be the owner. it's actually a woman named susan pelletier in norfolk, VA [00:19] dartmouth: damn, you tell all my secrets. [00:19] lol [00:19] rworkman: well i get it to work pretty well for me minus the occassional 'oops didnt know that' [00:19] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:19] Action: godling wonders what the dialing code is for NGC 7331 [00:20] godling: if you dial a wrong number there, it takes a looong time to find out... [00:20] speaking of robots, rworkman my enlistment has almost gone through (yeah, i know, right?) [00:20] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-136-44.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Peltier effect, norfolk, VA [00:21] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: "Build. Explode. Publish." [00:21] dartmouth: congrats [00:21] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [00:21] rworkman: financial hangups from student loans and sketchy health insurance companies [00:22] Urchlay: I wouldn't want to get teh phone bill. [00:22] Such is life :/ Those assholes :) [00:22] godling: your great-to-the-nth grandchildren would curse your name... [00:22] rworkman: i had a nightmare that i went to call BCBS to work out a payment arrangement and mark walling answered the phone. [00:23] "oh. thats what youve been up to." [00:23] LOL [00:23] Urchlay: I think I saw something like this on an episode of Red Dwarf. ;P [00:23] godling: right, where Lister finds out he left his lights on and owed 3 million years past due bill [00:24] yeah [00:26] kominfo02 (n=kominfo0@125.162.51.36) joined ##slackware. [00:26] wow, webkit takes a really long time to compile [00:27] been compiling it for 15 minutes so far [00:27] tije (n=tije@189.175.109.157) joined ##slackware. [00:27] so find something else to do while you wait... go play outside or something! [00:27] *grumble*, kids today... [00:27] it's 930 pm [00:28] haha [00:28] kominfo02 (n=kominfo0@125.162.51.36) left irc: Client Quit [00:28] thats why irc was invented [00:28] to have something to do while your shit compiles [00:28] 9:30PM is the perfect time to play outside, there aren't a bunch of annoying little brats using the swings & stuff [00:28] haha [00:28] Reticenti: this is true because true linux geeks are antisocial. they must find something unpleasant to do while things compile to stay on track ;) [00:29] actually, i'm staying up all night tonight [00:29] tomorrow is the hot air balloon races [00:29] and it starts at 5am [00:29] nice [00:29] so i'll be going to it at 4:30 or so, and I'd rather jsut stay up than wake up [00:29] ive always wanted to build a balloon :/ [00:30] hrrr, hot air balloons, can you actually steer those things? [00:30] ever since i read up on how to separate the hydrogen from water lol [00:30] these are the large ones, that carry people [00:30] not really, Urchlay [00:30] its not a "race [00:30] theres a big target a little ways away, and you have to drop bean bags on the target [00:30] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:30] the closest to hit the target wins [00:30] but for some reason it's called a race [00:30] what do you win for hitting specatators? [00:31] haah [00:31] i dunno, it'd be cool to fill enough balloons to lift off lol. tie a rope to my house....lol [00:31] lol [00:31] where i live, if you started dropping stuff on the spectators, you mgiht get someone shooting back at you lol [00:31] dartmouth: sit in a chair, have someone tie you in, attach about 20 balloons and they can watch you take off. [00:31] lol [00:32] someone did that [00:32] fire|bird: nah, but it'd be cool to build a little treehouse suspended by them [00:32] there have been films about people doing just that [00:32] (chair + balloons) [00:32] godling: Jay Leno did it once on the Tonight Show [00:33] fire|bird: I guess he didn't use enough balloons [00:33] godling: eh, they had the chair tied with ropes so he couldn't get very far. [00:33] what a bunch of jerks [00:33] i'd have pizza...beer....a ladyfriend-- well, until the beer was gone....my music collection... [00:34] evilazeee (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] i'd make sure i had a laptop with wireless so i could irc while floating [00:34] dartmouth: if you're ever going to fly a balloon anywhere near me, you're not allowed to have beer [00:35] cause I just *know* you aren't going to bother with a chemical toilet in the balloon [00:35] Urchlay: If he gets too close, shoot the balloon down. :) [00:35] Now that things are a little more active in here.... will someone try this and tell me what time they get for it? `time python -c "import gtk; c = gtk.clipboard_get(); c.set_text(''); c.store()"` [00:36] I'm getting really really really long delays on the c.store() call. like.... 10 seconds.... to store an empty string to the clipboard. [00:36] Urchlay: now what about me makes you think i'd not enjoy shitting on people from a mile above the ground haha [00:36] diabolix (n=jordan@c-67-163-236-228.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:36] hiptobecubic: less than a second here [00:36] 0.02s here [00:37] I wonder what's wrong with my gtk [00:37] i'm getting "real 0m10.574s user 0m0.220s sys 0m0.060s", which makes no sense at all to me. [00:37] hiptobecubic: real0m1.012s \n user0m0.152s \n sys0m0.030s [00:37] (how do you test for the time it takes?) [00:37] Reticenti, the command `time` [00:37] real 0m0.847s [00:37] ah [00:38] This is killing me [00:38] i get 2.5 secs [00:38] where does that "c.store()" call actually store it, if anywhere? [00:39] Anyone know why lilo gives me "/proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found [00:39] it's not very clear in the docs. It just says http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkclipboard.html#method-gtkclipboard--store [00:39] Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. [00:39] "http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkclipboard.html#method-gtkclipboard--store" [00:40] oops [00:40] mrselfpwn: device mapper module (whatever it's called) not loaded? [00:40] holy crap, I can't believe I've been away from irc this long [00:40] Urchlay, "somewhere so that it will stay around after the application has quit" [00:40] haha [00:40] dm-mod? is that the name? [00:40] real precise there [00:40] yeah i know [00:40] fabulous [00:40] mrselfpwn: I have no idea :) [00:40] anyway to find out? dm-mod is not valid [00:40] $ grep map /proc/misc [00:40] 61 device-mapper [00:41] I've misplaced my cannabis. [00:41] I'm running the -huge kernel, pretty sure that's not modular here [00:41] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] byteframe: think man! [00:42] Urchlay: I think you're right, because I report the same. [00:42] mrselfpwn: is this a custom kernel? if so, did you leave out the device mapper? :D [00:42] heh, i must have. I just recompiled. [00:42] there's a bunch of dm-* modules under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/md [00:42] go back in, add it as a module, make modules && make modules_install [00:42] godling, I found it. [00:43] byteframe: \o/ [00:43] mrselfpwn: then modprobe away.. [00:43] okay [00:43] byteframe: i found some as well, along with whiskey, soda and a cigar. this is shaping up to be a decent evening. [00:43] lol [00:44] evilazeee, roll a blunt. Good luck on the whiskey... [00:44] Nick change: icarus_ -> icarus [00:44] Canadians drink whiskey like water, and smoke all day.. it's the way of life here. [00:45] I'm sure. [00:45] :P [00:45] hm, what kinda whiskey do you drink? [00:45] Theres no such thing as a canadian, only americans in denial [00:45] i think webkit is the largest thing i've ever compiled [00:46] frullet: actually I think Canada was originally settled by American draft dodger, beginning in the 1960s... [00:46] Urchlay: Canadian Club today, but usually Crown royal. [00:46] still compiling after 35 minutes [00:46] s/dodger/dodgers/ [00:46] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:46] Reticenti: You've never compiled qt4 then, have you? :P [00:46] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] nope :P [00:47] largest ting i've done before this was a kernel [00:47] thing* [00:47] webkit's source is 11mb iirc [00:48] frullet: false. We're everything Americans want to be. [00:48] fire|bird: why would you want to compile qt4? :P [00:48] once i make this tgz file for webkit, could any slack13 user theoryically use it, and only it to install it? [00:48] godling: lol, there's various things that use it. Also, I use kde4 :D [00:48] godling, to watch it fail under distcc at 90% [00:48] hiptobecubic++ [00:48] Reticenti: theoretically, maybe. provided that they had all the deps in place, likely. [00:48] ah, ok [00:48] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [00:49] i was very angry [00:49] i'm not quite sure what the tgz actually includes [00:49] tar tvf file.tgz <--- will show you what it includes [00:49] ross` (n=ross@67.52.47.70) left irc: "leaving" [00:49] or explodepkg [00:49] ah, right [00:50] or less /var/log/packages/ [00:50] explodepkg would extract it tho, he just wanted to look? [00:50] or just less if you're using lesspipe.sh [00:50] ah, yea.. rm fixes that, though [00:50] oh, right, I keep forgetting "less file.tgz" works [00:51] man, compling webkit makes me glad i'm not a gentoo user lol [00:51] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [00:51] hiptobecubic: I would be angry too. [00:51] obnauticus_ (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] ahhhh gentoo [00:52] hiptobecubic: if it failed, at least with distcc it fails faster than it normally would :) [00:52] fixed my problem. thank you [00:53] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] It is actually for LVM and Raid support and really not needed in my system, but if it makes lilo shutup i'm happy. [00:56] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-224-215.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: "Build. Explode. Publish." [00:56] obnauticus_ (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:56] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [00:56] mrselfpwn: wait, was your LILO message an actual error message or a warning? [00:56] so, i need the depen. libunique, anyone know how i can catch it? [00:56] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] either way, LILO shouldn't be griping about that unless your lilo.conf is set up to use it...? [00:57] Reticenti: huh? [00:57] Reticenti: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libunique/ [00:57] elops (n=tomoty@94.187.123.8) left ##slackware. [00:57] Urchlay: dep of midori [00:57] yeah [00:57] fire|bird: I'm still trying to parse his question :) [00:57] lol [00:57] shouldnt i be able to unique up on it? [00:58] or shouldnt unique up on it* [00:58] midori? I thought that was a liqueur? [00:58] lol [00:58] /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found [00:58] Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? [00:58] Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. [00:58] brb, i'll be joining #puns [00:58] not an actual warning [00:58] in this case, midori is the lighweight, webkit based web browser. :P [00:58] :D [00:59] Only one warning issued about lba32, but i fixed that one as well [00:59] mrselfpwn: right, ehm, if you aren't referencing any device-mapper stuff in the lilo.conf, I wonder why it's even looking for that though... [00:59] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Client Quit [00:59] hmm [01:00] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-117.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] just a thought [01:00] only boot = /dev/sda I don't think that would cause it though. [01:01] I did add rootfilesystem=ext4 [01:01] and it did it but even after i removed that it did it again. [01:01] Action: mrselfpwn scratches head [01:02] I dunneaux either [01:03] Nick change: tuvok302 -> tuvok302-Walk [01:03] I also am wondering why i get this with alsactl; http://pastebin.com/d31d14e23 [01:04] mrselfpwn: tried alsaconf? [01:04] Yes, that is where I get the error. [01:04] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [01:05] The sound works, i just get that error. At first alsamixer only shows master volume though after I open it after initiating some sound it shows pcm volume also. [01:07] Presumably it just needed to load the module. Though even after PCM is loaded I still get the error above. [01:07] ^^ [01:07] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Success [01:08] dios_mio (n=freelove@88.241.142.91) joined ##slackware. [01:08] mrselfpwn: is it possible you're using an old asound.state that was made on an old version of slack? [01:09] evilazeee (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:09] I know at one time, I upgraded kernels, and alsactl restore would gripe about the names of the controls (they had changed from one version of the kernel driver to the next), this doesn't look exactly like that same thing, but close [01:10] hmmm [01:10] possibly [01:10] try running "alsactl store" as root [01:10] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] then alsaconf? [01:10] What is this clipboard garbage [01:10] shouldn't be needed [01:11] okay [01:11] i had problems with my sound then i disabled the on-board sound card from BIOS, and things worked out [01:11] dios_mio that's interesting [01:12] on the other hand, "alsactl store" is supposed to get run as a normal part of the shutdown process. Have you rebooted this thing since you installed it? (normal reboot I mean; crashes or hard power-off doesn't count) [01:12] Yes i have. [01:13] i need to reboot now [01:14] of course, if the sound works, you could just say "screw it" and let it print pointless warnings [01:14] well, been compiling for an hour now, this is taking a long time lok [01:14] lol* [01:17] no more tears Urchlay. [01:17] No error on boot. I think the aslactl store worked. [01:18] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:18] and i fully powered off the machine [01:19] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:19] PCM module loaded withouth having to start a sound app also [01:20] Action: mrselfpwn buys Urchlay some space icecream. [01:22] pcallycat (n=dad@97-121-8-82.bois.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:25] me too [01:25] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [01:25] jeev: go back to lurking [01:25] Action: jeev scratches ass and looks away [01:25] mmm, space icecream [01:25] tastes like the Great Red Spot [01:26] how can I tell sed to delete 2 differents motifs using sed once ? [01:26] Yes. Delicious! [01:27] tije (n=tije@189.175.109.157) left irc: "leaving" [01:27] pumpernickle [01:28] I used to eat it when the rich kid's parents on the corner would buy the astronaut icecream. I guess they were too good for chocolate chip. [01:29] But they wouldn't let him use sugar in his kool-aid. Only sweet-n-low. [01:30] lol [01:30] too good for it [01:30] haha [01:31] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [01:31] heh [01:32] The kool-aid tasted like S!#& [01:34] ugh, sweet & low tastes like crap in anything [01:34] /agreed [01:35] sugarless kool-aid is only useful for one thing, and that's as temporary hair-dye [01:35] (note: do NOT attempt to use kool-aid with sugar as hair dye!) [01:35] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.29) joined ##slackware. [01:35] lol [01:36] I had a white cat once, gave it to some punk rockers, they gave him a green mohawk made that way [01:36] completely non-toxic, didn't hurt his skin or anything [01:36] haha [01:36] :/ [01:38] nighty night. [01:39] night dood [01:39] this is really odd. Watching a fan-made Doctor Who episode, it sort of captures the feel of the show except everyone's got an American accent [01:40] heh [01:40] see you later hiptobecubic [01:41] you leave too godling. [01:42] jeev: Your mom told me to wait until she calls. [01:42] judequinn (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [01:43] ahh i think she's calling you now [01:44] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:45] distrowatch shows new ati-driver 8.650 fwiw [01:45] they gave the Doctor a fake-sounding british accent [01:45] not sure whether that's better or worse than an american-sounding dr. who would be [01:46] Urchlay: It's always sounded fake. [01:46] David Tennant is actually from New Jersey. [01:46] eh, he's Scottish [01:47] Nick change: judequinn -> usus12jari [01:47] anyway there were 9 other Doctors before him [01:47] they didn't all have fake accents... [01:47] they better drink tea in the version where they have American accents [01:48] Urchlay: Can you hear the sound of my joke flying over your head? :) [01:48] lol [01:48] haha David Tennant looks demonic in his Wikipedia photo [01:50] http://site.abc.go.com/primetime/afv/?pn=player&itemId=364273 [01:50] lol [01:50] as much as David Bowie? [01:50] your joke got messed up 'cause his accent really is fake [01:50] so I didn't think you were joking... [01:51] oh I see [01:51] bleah, this american guy is mumbling his lines when he tries to talk british, I can barely understand a word [01:52] ack, and he's got much worse teeth than any real british actors... [01:52] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:53] lol [01:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [02:01] BP{k}: Oh.. Sorry. Not funny about the attack.. didn't know about that either. Was actually asking about the whole currency part. Should have been more clear, sorry. [02:03] Zozma (n=Winter@68-113-251-253.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] dios_mio (n=freelove@88.241.142.91) left irc: "Leaving" [02:03] Hi slackers. [02:04] howdy [02:05] I see no info about Tennant being American [02:05] agentc0re: what you mean paying with scottish money in england . nah not a problem [02:05] dchmelik: probably because he isn't. [02:06] So just got back hanging out with some of my friends... and they are some uncultured bastards. Didn't even know who pedobear is. [02:07] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:08] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:08] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:09] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:09] you know, I was just about to say "I don't know who pedobear is either", but if I say that, I'm sure you'll explain it to me, and something tells me I really would rather not know... [02:10] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:10] lol [02:11] sometimes ignorance is bliss. ;) [02:12] O_O [02:13] only for the ignorant [02:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZXdzEc_RIk [02:13] the people posting stuff on the daily wtf are clearly not blissful :) [02:14] heh, that site's full of complete morons [02:14] and I don't mean the only the ones who get their WTFy code posted [02:15] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [02:16] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] are you still talking about Dr. Who? [02:18] Only if he posted some code on the Daily WTF. [02:18] 'daily wtf?' [02:18] hmm.. Tardis OS.. TardOS? [02:19] something tells me, if the Doc codes, it's a massive pile of clever, unmaintainable hacks that no human could ever hope to make sense of [02:19] dchmelik: some silly site that posts examples of IT horror stories [02:19] dchmelik: mostly programming related but sometimes managerial in nature [02:19] TardisOS, it uses more space on the inside! [02:19] i watched a few episodes a few years ago that seemed like they were from the 70s... some were boring because i did not know what had happened, and the rest seemed to focus on disgusting aliens... sort of like Jabba the Hutt [02:19] apparently the TARDIS console contains an 8-bit BBC micro... [02:20] on the outside it just looks like plan 9. [02:21] BeOS! [02:22] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) joined ##slackware. [02:22] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:23] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) joined ##slackware. [02:24] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-136-44.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:27] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:28] Urchlay: Do you think the Doctor leaves notes to his future incarnations in code comments? [02:28] What would he say? [02:28] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "BitchX: better than a penis enlargement!" [02:31] Nick change: tuvok302-Walk -> tuvok302 [02:32] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) left irc: Client Quit [02:32] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) joined ##slackware. [02:33] i do not accept the idea he had incarnations [02:33] that was made up [02:35] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:35] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) joined ##slackware. [02:41] xiws13 (n=xiws13@119.4.33.184) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:41] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-152-163.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] y0 slackers...How's everyone? [02:43] dchmelik: ehhh, the show's fiction, whole thing was made up [02:44] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [02:45] i am running X2300 mobility radeon and radeonhd xorg driver, sometimes when watching videos in xine i see screen flicking / breaking.. not majorly but its noticible, any idea how to solve this [02:46] siimo: do you have conky or compiz installed? [02:46] conky yeah :S [02:47] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC31763.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:47] mew mew [02:47] spook: woof woof [02:47] still happens when conky is not running [02:47] Action: spook stabs MLanden_lap with a frozen eel and eats his liver [02:47] IceW (n=sartori@189-18-159-44.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] well,it's finely smoked and pickled...bon apetit..:D [02:48] MLanden_lap: you smoke? [02:49] i know..bad habit [02:51] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [02:51] so is breathing in Los Angeles [02:52] briareus (n=briareus@ip70-176-28-69.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [02:55] heh [02:56] y0 jeev [02:56] sup beavis [02:57] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-248.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:59] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: "Leaving." [03:01] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:03] or tokyo [03:03] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:09] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:12] are there generalized dns problems? [03:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:14] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-162.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:17] mancha: are you asking if there are problems with the dns protocol? [03:18] hah, no, i know the answer to that one: yes. just wondering if root servers are slow this eve [03:19] there are a bajillion root servers dood [03:19] nope [03:19] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [03:21] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] Kamel (n=1@173.132.68.21) left irc: [03:24] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Kamel (n=1@173-132-68-21.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest50628 [03:25] Kamel (n=1@173-132-68-21.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:25] Guest50628 (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [03:25] Kamel (n=1@173-132-68-21.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:41] byteframe: Go find someone with children and ask them. :P [03:41] cuba33ci_ (i=cuba33ci@114-45-229-95.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-248.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "the purpose of a combat game... to kill something you wont go to jail for so you dont go to jail for killing who you want to" [03:44] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-224-215.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] is slacky.eu a trust source for precompiled packages? [03:47] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425673.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:48] nooper: not really, no. What are you looking for? [03:49] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-152-163.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [03:55] phoenix^: a package for httrack. cant find it on slackbuilds [03:56] don't they also have the source for their builds? [03:57] oh yeah they do [03:57] so then you can build yourself if you distrust them. then go back and compare md5's with the prebuilt to see if you were overly paranoid :) [03:59] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) joined ##slackware. [03:59] hi [03:59] tapp (n=tapp@pD9E52649.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] how can I look at my IP settings? [04:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:02] this might be a really stupid question. In xorgconfig I've selected my keyboard (se), Swedish, but when rebooting it defaults into somehting else. It dosen't really bother me cause of the simplicity of just doing "setxkbmap se" If xorgconfig dosen't do it, where do I select default keyboard. [04:02] not so stupid as mine :D [04:03] good call mancha. i'll juse use their slackbuild script with the latest source [04:03] aldcor not sure what you mean, maybe the answer is ifconfig [04:03] mancha, i just wana see my adresses... gateway, DNS etc. [04:03] through konsole [04:03] those are not all in one place [04:04] ifconfig shows your ip; route shows your gw; cat /etc/resolv.conf shows your dns [04:05] ok, thx [04:05] linXea, you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [04:06] in the keyboard input device block you'd need a line like Option "XkbLayout" "se" [04:06] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:06] mancha yes, and it is set to "se" when booting.. still dosent work :P .... [04:07] I have to change "setxkbmap *whatever*" and cgange back an then it works [04:07] maybe you can paste your xorg.conf on pastebin [04:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:07] and tell us what slack version, if 13 then it might be a hal autodetect issue [04:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) joined ##slackware. [04:09] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:09] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:09] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [04:09] hm, sorry, not at the moment =/ .. I just wanted to know if there was any known problem. My temp fix is adding two lines to autostart scipt in openbox. Well, probably a HAL problem :) Thank you anyways [04:10] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "leaving" [04:11] linXea my guess is you need to set this in a keymap .fdi file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy [04:12] I wrote that down =) Thank you again =) [04:12] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:12] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-111-201.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:21] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:22] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] tapp (n=tapp@pD9E52649.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [04:23] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:23] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:36] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-152-163.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:36] doesnt but its so they warn their customers off of it [04:36] if asked [04:36] hmmm [04:36] you know in case someone wants to ask if such and such a computer would be appropriate to switch over [04:37] since its hard to find a store (in rl not online) that sells no os computers [04:37] let alone linux [04:37] So ms makes them say "no", instead of "i dont know". [04:37] basically [04:37] and we all know live messenger is supported under linux (pidgin kopete amsn) so is voip (ekiga skype etc) [04:38] wine cedega and crossover give game and application support [04:38] but the training they give their employees tells them it doesnt [04:39] authorised support (apparently cygnus novell and canonical dont count) [04:39] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Cedega doesn't run WoW on this machine the way it would if I were running Windows natively. [04:39] camera ipod and mp3 support (i havnt used one yet that didnt work) [04:39] Cedega is dead. [04:39] Thankfully. [04:39] Plus best buy does more evil stuff. [04:39] havnt found a printer or scanner it wont run wither [04:39] Racial and demographical profiling, etc. [04:39] given [04:41] I would place best buy as the great satan of retail. [04:41] At least for US market. [04:41] electronics retail anyways [04:42] Emanon: I had a Lexmark that wouldn't work with Linux. [04:42] An epson here. [04:42] i said "I" hadnt found one not that they dont exist [04:43] Yes, you did. [04:43] scroll up and read again [04:43] huh? [04:44] i dont deny there are commonly used hardware that doesnt work under linux, i just havnt come across it [04:44] I just agreed with you. [04:44] oh [04:44] sorry thought you were saying i DID say it didnt exist my mistake [04:44] guess all this FUD has me a lil confrontational [04:44] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-152-163.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Then it worked. [04:45] yea i suppose you're right about that hehe [04:47] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:48] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [04:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:51] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-152-163.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [04:56] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:58] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. 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[05:25] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:26] i can achieve it in windows by using a hex editor and hacking the flash dll i found something on google [05:28] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-67-127-57-193.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:40] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [05:41] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:42] dragonmst (n=dragonms@67.110.215.238.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] good morning [05:43] Nick change: stybla_ -> stybla [05:44] dragonmst (n=dragonms@67.110.215.238.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. 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[05:57] but doing gen ed so ic an decide between cs and cis [05:57] i might end up doing computer information system cause its more suitable for me [05:57] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) left irc: [05:58] i went to college for that to but when i realize they wanted me to take 3 years of other classes before i could learn 1 year of what i actually wanted to study and had been doing since i was 7 i wsant happy [05:58] true [05:58] college is a waste of money [05:59] lol :x [05:59] to be honest with you, college is just a business like any others [05:59] well not for nothing but i just wasnt up to another 4 years after the 12 i had just been through [05:59] hold on [05:59] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [06:00] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:01] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:01] alright [06:01] its good for people who want to learn stuff but i just wanted the degree to prove i knew what i already knew that i knew but they wouldnt give it to me without alot of BS i wasnt really willing to sit through at the time (i was just a kid, still am) [06:02] me too lol [06:02] how old are you? [06:02] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] 22 now like 18 or 19 at the time [06:02] ooh [06:03] plus they didnt have a degree for what i wanted to study so i was gonna have to settle for a lesser degree [06:03] hm where do you live? [06:03] washington state [06:05] our colleges are better with med training than networking so no big surprise that a community college wasnt focusing on network security analysis [06:06] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:06] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [06:06] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:07] hm [06:07] gah [06:08] my laptop is buzzing [06:08] grr cant get this system im testing on virtualbox setup correctly [06:09] finds the crypt partition decrypts it fine, finds the VG partition but fails to find the root LV in it [06:10] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.22.15.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:10] frustrating [06:10] xiws (n=xiws13@119.4.34.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:11] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:15] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [06:16] but still [06:16] so many papers to write [06:16] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [06:17] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:17] good morning :-) [06:17] morning [06:17] morning macavity [06:17] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [06:18] skype beta segfaults on 32bit slackware too :( [06:18] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [06:18] YES I FIXED IT!! WOO [06:18] i mistyped one character in my mkinitrd command and had to redo it hehe [06:19] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: SendQ exceeded [06:19] oooh its pretty [06:19] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [06:20] now i just gotta figure out why it fails when i try to put the /boot on a removable drive [06:21] so any tips you guys can give me before i head off to college soon? :D [06:22] if you're going to do it go all the way [06:22] the worst that can happen is that youl fail but that will happen if you half ass [06:22] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: "Leaving." [06:22] hm [06:22] alright :D [06:22] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [06:23] some people half ass it cause their worried their best wont be good enough [06:23] but if their best isnt good enough then why bother doing it even worse? [06:24] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:24] hit x by accident [06:26] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) joined ##slackware. [06:26] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-179-245-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] rm -r /home/aldcor/.kde/ - if i'll do that my slack will be without X ? [06:28] i want one of those big Sun boxen [06:29] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:29] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [06:29] aldcor, you just get rid of all of your kde settings, saved stuff, etc [06:30] so it's safe to do it? i just will need to reset my settings? [06:31] sure it is if you dont have anything important in kde [06:31] it is safe [06:31] you rm it, then startx again and it will bring back those kde settings [06:31] ok, i'll try [06:31] but my may be a little suprised at just how much stuff you have in there [06:31] kinder (n=kinder@host7-163-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:31] .. like adress books, calenders, saved websessions etc etc [06:32] kinder (n=kinder@host7-163-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [06:32] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:32] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-134-239-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] yep [06:32] aldcor: but btw.. werent you the guy who refused to read the manual? [06:33] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:33] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) joined ##slackware. [06:33] yes, it works :) [06:33] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=377 [06:33] ehh...i have to make my kde beautifull again... [06:34] aldcor: ^^ see that link... [06:35] he :) [06:36] i was young and supid... i'm still supid in Linux things.. it's nice that guys are helping me anyway :) [06:36] asking if removing a dotfile or dotdirectory would kill X on your machine would have been answered in that book [06:36] oh, it is almost two years ago now :P [06:37] yes, time flies, doesnt it [06:37] aldcor, drijen sucks dont worry [06:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.130.26) joined ##slackware. [06:38] surrealgirl: the young man had it comming... i remember it vividly :P [06:38] I'm studying in Academy of Music... to get there i had to work hard.. i really don't have a time to read any of those books you're recomending guys [06:39] and i'm still bad at english :) but that's ok... i'm musician not slackware geek [06:39] then Slackware will continue to be a distro you have to fight with [06:39] truely, slackware is a distro aimed at pros and nerds [06:39] or geeks if you like that word better than nerd (to me it amounts to just about the same) [06:40] monday i'll get back my other HDD with WIndows... there is Reason, there is Band in a box and other necessary tools for me as a musician [06:40] so.. there'll be goodbye to slack [06:41] shouldve said that 2 years ago in 2007 [06:41] lol [06:41] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:42] i hate to say this, but Slackware is like Hotel California [06:42] you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave ;-) [06:42] aldcor: you don't want to read because you're a musician? [06:42] aldcor: if I ever have heard an excuse for being a lazy bum, this is the one [06:42] raw: slackbook.org is not written in scores, so it cant possibly contain anything of interest to him :P [06:43] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [06:43] macavity: well he can read IRC just fine [06:43] raw: perhaps he has an asci2scores.pl module for his irssi? [06:43] raw, becouse i'll never use Linux again... this just isn't right thing for me [06:43] macavity: but I agree, someone should compose a version you can listen to on your drive home [06:44] lets not make fun of him [06:44] linux isnt for everyone [06:44] raw: hey.. now you're talking [06:44] the day linux become the most used os [06:44] im going back to windows [06:44] lol [06:44] aldcor: ok...not that I would care. unix is 'do it yourself' [06:44] tell me... it's possible to get Reason work on Linux ? [06:44] surrealgirl: isnt "principally nonconforming" a kind of conforming? ;-) [06:44] i guess answer is NO [06:45] aldcor: I do all of my work on linux [06:45] aldcor: i have seen Reason run in Wine [06:45] macavity, nope [06:45] aldcor: but there is no way in hell i will bother helping you with Wine [06:45] but it'll be waste of time to make it work [06:45] for me [06:45] ah that's a program, I thought he was just bad at english [06:45] solution is WIndows [06:45] go for it [06:45] i allready have it [06:46] use the tools you can operate [06:46] surrealgirl: i just heard about HaikuOS [06:46] surrealgirl: they are fixing up Mesa for it right now, so maybe it is mature enough to play with ;-) [06:46] lol [06:46] mesa? [06:46] free/open OpenGL drives for X [06:47] oh [06:47] why would you suggest haikuos? [06:47] 3D acceleration for pretty much everything under the sun short of the very latest ATI cards (and nVidia cards in general) [06:47] surrealgirl: because it is as nonconforming as they come :P [06:48] lol [06:48] then i would do lfs if you want pure nonconformist [06:48] i just dont like going the popular route [06:48] surrealgirl: it is truely the thing a "i principally dont run mainstream"-person would love to tinker with [06:48] girls like my age and having what i have would normally be stupid as hell and be using tons of words like "like" and be sleeping with anything that has a penis [06:48] i dont tinker [06:48] i work on this os [06:48] lol [06:49] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:49] girls at*** ugh so busy preparing for college has me stupidifed [06:49] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) left irc: "Pat divkosiigaakaas divdomiibas briizhos mana seerskaabaa vakuola pienjem simbiotisku varbuutiibu" [06:49] stupidified [06:49] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [06:49] oh well.. have you learned C yet? [06:50] yes [06:50] do you have APUE handy? [06:50] but didnt make naything so no not truly learned lol [06:50] APUE?\ [06:50] Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment, 2nd Ed [06:50] nope dont have that [06:50] .. but yes, you didnt learn the language.. you glanced the syntax [06:51] you should grap hold of The C Programming Languge (also 2nd Ed) [06:51] do all the exercises [06:51] then go on to APUE and do the exercises in that one [06:52] then you could get a job at IBM or Oracle/Sun after wards [06:52] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:52] or if you had been gay, you could have applied at Apple [06:52] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.44) joined ##slackware. [06:52] is it a certification course? [06:52] screw apple [06:52] no [06:53] that is just what UNIX programmers are supposed to know [06:53] APUE is probably one of the best book i have ever read [06:53] just too bad it go nicked [06:54] can you get it at an book shop? [06:54] yes [06:54] or via Amazon [06:54] just be 100% sure you get the 2nd edition [06:55] the first edition relates to something like BSD4.2 [06:55] ok [06:55] cough drops arent working for my coughing macavity [06:55] im dying [06:55] or System V Release 7 [06:55] cool, i will check it out. i support local buisnesses buy spending the extra couple of bucks [06:56] surrealgirl, change you name to dying girl [06:56] haha [06:56] then you could get a job at IBM or Oracle/Sun after wards <-- really? [06:56] Nick change: surrealgirl -> dying-girl [06:56] hm [06:56] i might have to call 911 soon [06:56] dying-girl: APUE is *extensive* [06:56] this coughing wont stop [06:57] dying-girl: it explains the ins and out's of how the kernel and libc works, and walks you though every thing from network sockets to terminal I/O [06:57] clove oil on the back of the tounge [06:58] sex [06:58] lots of hot tea [06:58] macavity, its cough based asthma [06:58] google it [06:58] Hmm, should the ati's blob work on slack64? I gives me syntax errors when I try the --listpkg and --buildpkg options for slackware [06:58] there is no cure for it [06:58] and i can die at any moment [06:59] just tested with 9.9 [06:59] dying-girl: anti histamins and bikidney hormone [06:59] call dr house, tell him we need a differential [06:59] dying-girl: or how the heck that translates into english.... [06:59] dying-girl: if you die, try to find a balcony [06:59] you know, just to add a little drama ;P [07:00] well fam just woke up, time to spend time. [07:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-98.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:00] macavity: pol(l)ens [07:00] morning channel :) [07:01] Camarade_Tux: you need to polish the lenses? [07:01] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) joined ##slackware. [07:01] morning [07:03] it sucks not being able to breath [07:03] and coughing all the time [07:04] macavity: had troubles translating "anti-histamins"? [07:05] morning missyjane :p [07:06] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [07:07] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:07] \DSAFEW\ (n=dsafew@74-37-132-69.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:11] dying-girl: get a micro filter vaccum cleaner.. it helps a lot [07:13] antihistamine, Camarade_Tux? [07:15] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-98.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:15] godling: in response to something i said just a while ago [07:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:16] ok, none of my business :) [07:16] sorry [07:16] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-111-201.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [07:17] bah. this bluetooth mouse sucks. :( [07:17] <\DSAFEW\> that's a redundant statement. [07:18] not as much as "flash sucks" ;) [07:18] <\DSAFEW\> well, at least flash doesn't need 2 double-As [07:18] <\DSAFEW\> :D [07:19] but it sure wastes more power ;) [07:20] macavity, will do [07:20] know any hand held models? [07:20] cause i dont have a lot of money [07:21] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-247.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:22] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.18) joined ##slackware. [07:22] god im dying here [07:22] dying-girl: cant say that i do [07:22] ugh [07:23] dying-girl: the only kinds i know are from Miele.. and those are pretty damn expensive [07:23] dying-girl: but you could ask in your local appliance store? [07:24] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.219.180.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.219.180.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:26] does anyone know how to change the right mouse click menu of Dolphin ? [07:31] macavity, nah [07:31] cant affor dit then [07:32] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-67-171-67-171.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [07:33] The_ManU_212 (n=manolo@port-92-200-61-49.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-111-201.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [07:35] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.86) joined ##slackware. [07:35] hi [07:36] FATAL: Error inserting hid_dummy ~ (/lib/modules/2.6.29.3-desktop-smp/kernel/drivers/hid/hid-dummy.ko): ~ Input/output error [07:36] is this a worrying thing, why does this appear while booting? [07:36] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [07:37] hm looks bad [07:39] I am having trouble compiling and installing kdebluetooth4-0.3 [07:39] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:39] has anyone managed to do it on slackware64-13? [07:39] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:39] I get this error on make: "kdebluetooth4-0.3/src/agent/agent.cpp:72: error: 'class Solid::Control::BluetoothInterface' has no member named 'findBluetoothRemoteDeviceUBI'" [07:39] doesnt that package come with slackware 13? [07:40] i thought it did [07:40] was like installed by default [07:40] I don't have it [07:40] hmm [07:40] I installed kde packages after installing slack 13 [07:40] might that be it? [07:40] maybe [07:40] wanted to pick and choose kde packages to whittle the size down? [07:40] or switched from some other wm? [07:41] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.86) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [07:41] nah, I just did slapt-get --install-set kde afterwards [07:41] I didn't install from dvd because I wanted first to explore my other wm options [07:41] but now I need bluetooth [07:41] and in a user friendly GUI-like manner [07:42] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [07:42] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:42] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [07:43] ok [07:43] off to school :D [07:43] dying-girl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [07:43] on a side note did slapt get come by default or did youhave to install that separatly [07:43] i forgot [07:44] it came with the distro I think [07:44] I still uninstalled it and installed a newer version [07:44] awesome [07:44] and it contains by default the slackware /current or something? [07:44] yes [07:45] awesome [07:45] why's that? :) [07:45] The_ManU_212 (n=manolo@port-92-200-61-49.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [07:45] hmm from the output (and keeping in mind im probably incorrect cause im a supernoob) it looks like maybe bluetooth dongle not plugged in? [07:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:47] it is plugged in [07:47] and hcitool recognizes it [07:47] I can see my phone and my phone sees me [07:47] (boy did that sound weird!) [07:48] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-192-107.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [07:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] no idea then [07:49] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:49] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] thanks anyways [07:54] v4nelle (n=Nelle@adsl72-46.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:56] slapt-get is NOT part of slackware [07:57] the official pkgtools frontend is slackpkg [07:57] s/official pkgtools frontend/official alternative pkgtools frontend/ [08:00] what's the difference? they both use the same repositories [08:00] falx: slackpkg comes with Slackware [08:00] slapt-get --install debian [08:01] falx: not nessecarily.. and slapt-get attempts to resolve dependencies in a rather hackish manner [08:01] falx: one is included in slack, the other isn't. one is officially sanctioned, other isn't [08:01] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-111-201.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [08:01] oh, ok then [08:01] slapt-get doesn't attempt to resolve dependencies by default. not to mention, that metadata is not present in official slackware packages [08:01] not to mention that i have seen slapt-get break peoples boxes when they attempted to upgrade from 12.2 to 13.0 [08:02] i dont think slapt-get does dependency resolution, it is just a stripped fork of apt [08:02] I must have uninstalled slackpkg somewhere along the line, 'cause I don't have it installed now [08:02] moving to slackpkg then... [08:02] the only thing that slapt-get shares with apt-get is name and command line syntax [08:05] somebody in Los Angeles stolen several Andy Worhol pieces, who is the idiot that would spend money on the crap, Worhol does the ugliest art i ever seen [08:06] last time i checked, art wasn't judged only by 'prettyness' [08:06] a can of soup is not art [08:06] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.90.5) joined ##slackware. [08:06] s/judged/judged and appraised/ [08:07] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.90.5) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:07] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.200.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:12] Pig_Pen heh, some would call yor comment unamerican :) [08:13] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [08:14] what do you expect me to be, americans suck they are more interested in fox news and american idol and jesus, dont let the facts get in the way of an agenda [08:15] think I lost some hearing in my right ear last night [08:16] quasar: you're not supposed to put anything in your ear sharper than your elbow [08:17] ah, that must be it then [08:17] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@wc4zo1he33.adsl.datanet.hu) joined ##slackware. [08:20] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:22] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:23] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@wc4zo1he33.adsl.datanet.hu) left irc: "Leaving." [08:24] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Pig_Pen where are you from? [08:25] born in Florida, north of Pensacola in a little town called Milton [08:26] oh right [08:26] i am an amercian, but one of the rare ones not afraid to critisize this screwed up place [08:26] well, if you're gonna be jealous and envious, then you're on the right track. [08:26] as for criticism, i'm all for it. [08:26] jealous of what? [08:27] of what others have. (not necesarly referring to you but that is what the bamer and ComDemLibs are formenting) [08:28] no, dont use money as a measurment of wealth, there are plenty of stupid & shallow people with fat wallets [08:29] I just wish I could be one of them. ;) :) [08:29] it's not limited to green papers [08:29] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [08:29] it's anything that someone has that someone else wants. [08:30] not just, "oh i like that; i want that one" [08:30] instead of "oh i like that, where can i get one like that" [08:30] the former statement shows the facet of jealousy/envy [08:30] like someone's wife or property [08:31] hobin (n=nazemi@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Larry Gelbart, Hollywood writer; MASH, Tootsie; has left the building [08:33] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [08:36] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [08:36] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:37] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:38] i find the whole 'it's not art' comment very funny. if anything, art is in the eye of beholder, and such definitive statements 'it's not art' only show lack of understanding what art is [08:38] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.130.26) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] kpr (n=kpr@unaffiliated/kpr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:42] van gogh is art, monet is art, tweaked photos are not art [08:43] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [08:46] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: Client Quit [08:47] parody can be art [08:49] ananke that's why pr0n can be unsubject to right-of-speech claims [08:49] pr0n is definitely art -_- [08:49] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:49] when did 13.0 get released? [08:49] oh nevermind. [08:49] LFlynt would agree with you; the Supremes dont. [08:49] august. [08:49] While Buggaboo slept! [08:49] omg! [08:50] Hope it was a nice nap. [08:50] let's see if I have a nice slice left somewhere. [08:50] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [08:51] anyone running slack on brtfs yet? [08:52] how often is slackware released? [08:52] btrfs you mean? Is it in the kernel yet? [08:53] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: Client Quit [08:53] lol @ "pr0n is art" since when is fornication on camera art? yeah, the west is decadent [08:54] i dint say that [08:54] parody can be art [08:54] riddlebox, last few years IIRC have averaged about 8-10 months. Earlier years were more frequent. I think Distrowatch might have summaries of such things. [08:54] larry flynt says that; the Supremes disagreed [08:54] which kernel we got in 13.0? [08:55] rob0, thanks [08:55] .30 in testing/ [08:55] Pig_Pen i think "the west" is too broad a category to be painting. [08:55] might as well compile .31 meself. [08:56] yes, I plan to try .31, I have been wanting master mode in ath5k for ages. [08:56] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] rumor has it that it's working in .31 [08:56] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:56] yeah. [08:57] if it's good enough for linus, it's good enough for me. [08:58] fedora isn't good enough for me [08:58] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:59] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.26.44) joined ##slackware. [08:59] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:00] any OS is not good enough for me, i find they all suck, some just suck a little less than others [09:03] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) joined ##slackware. [09:07] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.214.199) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425673.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:26] inman (n=aligp@p579B468B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] sdrv (n=siderov@e176091248.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:27] need some help [09:27] by this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/cant-boot-from-dvd-cd-rom-754621/ [09:30] siderov_ (n=siderov@85.183.133.34) joined ##slackware. [09:30] i would guess you already know to check the BIOS to see if it set to check the CD/DVD drive first for bootable media inman? [09:30] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:30] siderov_ (n=siderov@85.183.133.34) left irc: Client Quit [09:30] it is there [09:31] i can take it but each time he said me that the medium is not bootable! [09:31] also some PCs have a BIOS based boot selector menu, mine is F11 and a menu pops up allowing me to select which drive to boot [09:31] i know that [09:31] im not such an idiot! [09:31] sdrv (n=siderov@e176091248.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:31] ? [09:32] sdrv (n=siderov@e176091248.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:32] did you check your md5sum? [09:32] but the problem is that he doesnt wanna boot from the bootable medium [09:32] fuck, nevermind dud, i never said you were an idiot, just checking to see if you were aware of those issues [09:32] whats that? and how can i check it? [09:32] artv61j (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] what is the md5sum? [09:33] Pig_Pen: dont you love it when they do that shit? [09:33] yep [09:33] "Help me! But dont give me any help because I've already doen everything you're going to say!" [09:33] yeah, makes me not want to bother helping anybody [09:35] hey guys has someone any idea? ( i can find any connection between MD5 and Booting ) [09:35] inman: with the way you reacted to Pig_Pen, I'd decline to assist you unless you paid me.. sorry [09:35] it has to be the CD/DVD rom you burned, if other CDs/DVDs will boot but not *that* one you are trying, probably a bad ISO, i bet your last dollor you will have to re-download and burn it again [09:36] Perhaps you should outline which potential suggestions we might have that you already tried. [09:36] no no [09:36] so let it make it clear [09:36] i have installed the slackware 13 from the medium [09:36] i was such an idiot i didnt repair my lilo 99 issue [09:36] and i boot all the time with my DVD [09:37] Nick change: nannes1 -> nannes [09:37] and one time i shut it down with holding the power! [09:37] boot from the DVD and repair lilo then [09:37] so after than i cant boot nothingS! [09:37] DVD rom didnt boot anythins [09:38] A "smart question" is methodical. "I did this, that, and the other. I got error A, so I tried plan B, then I got error B. ..." [09:38] good i do it so [09:38] what i did [09:38] i installed slackware 13 [09:38] 2. i do fault by setting up of lilo by installing slackware [09:39] 3. i had some exam so i said that i would solve it after my exam so i tries to boot with my slackware DVD [09:39] 4. i had the mouse issue with that commented options by the new version [09:40] 5. i correct it after while by uncommenting that code in specific file there [09:40] Mouse issues are not relevant to boot problems. [09:40] 6. i could not use my mouse so i shut it labtop down by holding the power bottom [09:41] 7. [09:41] try a pastebin. [09:41] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [09:41] 7. after that i tried to boot as usual from slackware DVD [09:41] but it doesn't ever possible more [09:41] so, lilo.conf is probably messed up, and since you can not use the CD/DVD to boot with, what about a usb thumbdrive? can you boot with a usb thumbdrive? maybe fix it with slax [09:42] A successful install of Slackware 13, and after that, the same boot media fails? [09:42] 8. i thought it could be solved by booting from any medium! windows or any other linux os ! but i dont have the possibility to boot from DVD Rom to do anythings [09:42] so i have that [09:43] judging by the rocky grammar i bet english is not his first language [09:43] inman: read Pig_Pen's post [09:43] i can boot from a usb but the problem is that i cant find any manual to boot from usb! [09:43] ( no im persian i can german and english is my last lang! ) [09:44] what hardware is it? maybe you can find an owners manual online somewhere [09:44] Action: quasar 's thinking hardware or pebkac [09:44] it is a tecra s1, toshiba! [09:45] good morning slackers! [09:45] The install of Slackware and setup of LILO would not affect what happens in the BIOS. [09:45] i know rob [09:45] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] I'm still trying to figure out how you can screw up lilo and fix a mouse issue without fixing lilo first [09:45] but meh.. whatever [09:45] inman: instructions to create usb installer for slack 13.0: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/ [09:46] I'm just trying to understand the issue still. [09:46] one things more i do some sheet by installing i didnt have in lilo.conf after installing not a word! the file was absolutely empty! [09:47] IIUC what you're saying, that probably means that liloconfig didn't run or didn't complete. [09:47] i would say it is not complete [09:48] rob the issue is that to boot form CD or DVD and after that i would repair self my lilo [09:48] what i had to do it first! [09:49] right, boot the Slackware CD or DVD and fix LILO. But you're saying that the DVD won't boot, the BIOS says the media is not bootable. [09:49] im read the hitests link for a usb slackware [09:49] yes, that's a good link [09:50] issue is that that it donest boot any boot-able medium! [09:50] i have to possibilities, lan or usb! [09:50] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.203.80) joined ##slackware. [09:50] ok inman, i think you need to do this: hold down F12 and power it on, it should give you a menu to select booting from the CDrom drive [09:51] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [09:51] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-0-81-60.leed.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] I don't have a Toshiba, so I don't know. But that's where you need to look, Toshiba's documentation. [09:52] pig pen i did it all the time [09:52] i took CDrom and he gave back on blank page [09:53] this error [09:53] the CD rom in .... CD is not bootable [09:53] 13:44 * quasar 's thinking hardware or pebkac [09:53] http://www.slax.org/ get the usb tarball and unpack it on to a usb stick (fat32) and run the script in /boot to make it bootable, then maybe you can boot it up to fix your slackware install [09:53] so am I actually [09:54] check that the drive is inserted right, firm connection [09:54] i have to agree ultimatly it is pebkac [09:55] the dirve is correctly inserted [09:55] i opened it before! [09:56] im such a dummy! i should repair the lilo before! [09:56] what is the finished product called: you take some strawbarries and boil it with a little water and some sugar, and after about an hour you add some kind of thickener? [09:56] strawberry soup [09:56] it looks like red slime with lumps in it... but it tastes really good [09:57] jam? [09:57] i made jam before, you need pectin [09:57] it is a lot loke jam, but with less sugar [09:57] so you just eat it with a spoon [09:57] maybe with milk or cream on (probably only Danes do that) [09:58] fruit, sugar & fruit pectin, and just a tiny bit of fresh lemon juice to keep it fresh (about a teaspoon) acts like a preservative [09:58] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:59] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.26.44) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:59] the dictionary says "strawberry compote" [09:59] jame, jelly, marmalade, etc [09:59] those are to put on bread [10:00] this is just to put in a bowl and eat [10:00] it's a desert [10:00] nom [10:00] dive++ [10:00] strawberry nom! [10:00] confit, fruit curd, etc [10:01] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [10:01] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:01] ok.. so it is probably strawberry curd (though i suspect this particuar variant is .dk only) [10:02] did someone has anything against dbus? [10:02] so did dieinggirl survive [10:02] anyways.. i just had the fantastic revelation that strawberry curd/nom is *phantastic* with banana slices! [10:02] firedix (n=firedix@host245.201-252-162.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:02] .. in case you wanted to know [10:02] omnidroid: she went to school, so probably not ;-) [10:02] macavity: we *always* want to know about food and alcohol ;) [10:03] yes [10:03] indeed, good sir [10:03] Camarade_Tux: yes.. that does seem to be the ever lasting on-topic-off-topic on ##slackware [10:04] macavity: don't forget pr0n: food, sex, alcohol :p [10:05] our basic needs:) [10:05] http://www.gugge.dk/opskrifter/desserter/jordbargrod.htm [10:05] ^^ thats it! [10:05] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [10:06] it looks so gross, yet tastes SO good [10:07] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-31-122-189.hers.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [10:07] 1kg strawberries, 1 stick of vanilla, 100ml water, 200g sugar, 2tblsp potatoe starch [10:07] macavity: kartoffelmel? kartoffel + mel, potato + miel/honey ? :D [10:07] Camarade_Tux: potatoe startch [10:08] Camarade_Tux: actually it means "potatoe flour" [10:08] macavity: hmmm, http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/startch [10:08] macavity, bananas with strawberry sauce are common at some of the buffet restaurants I go to. Agreed, yummy stuff. [10:08] Camarade_Tux: http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/starch [10:08] Camarade_Tux: meaning 1 [10:09] rob0: nice! [10:09] Camarade_Tux: s/startch/starch/ [10:09] The better ones actually include some strawberry chunks, but some, it's just a syrup. [10:09] Camarade_Tux: you can probably do it with maizena (corn starch) [10:10] rob0: in Danish "strawberry curd" it is supposed to be all full of strawberries.. see photo [10:10] I can't cook anything right now but I'll sure ask the channel in a few days :P [10:11] Camarade_Tux: is strawberries expensive where you live? [10:11] here they are dirt cheep during the summer [10:12] litterally.. when autumn closes in, we get a kilogram for about $1.5 to $2 [10:12] (thats ~two pounds) [10:12] macavity: he, not really but I don't have the time right now ;) [10:14] Camarade_Tux: the above recipie taks about 20 minutes [10:14] +cool down' [10:14] sdrv (n=siderov@e176091248.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] macavity: I'm currently at my parents and don't want to have my mother on my back ;) [10:15] Camarade_Tux: what is your native language? [10:16] I guess "having my mother on my back" isn't perfect english :P [10:16] macavity: french ;) [10:16] it is perfect english idiom [10:16] ah ok :) [10:16] proper too [10:17] and "get off my back", "monkey on my back", back-biter [10:17] I was a bit reluctant because it's the same in french but I recalled reading it once :) [10:17] I prefer "stfu" [10:18] not to your mommy you dont [10:18] yes I do [10:18] liar [10:18] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] prove it! [10:18] ip-route (n=iproute@unaffiliated/contraventor) joined ##slackware. [10:18] Camarade_Tux: i translate the recipie to english, you translate it to french and hand it to yo momma, and she makes jordbærgrød for you [10:18] you prove it; it's your claim [10:18] macavity: my mother's an english teacher :P [10:18] negative, it's your claim [10:18] Camarade_Tux: oh well :P [10:18] slackware contains package uml-utilities ? [10:18] nah [10:18] ip-route: nope [10:18] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:19] Camarade_Tux ok [10:19] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:19] Camarade_Tux i'm find this pkg on google [10:19] macavity, translate to english and i might try it [10:19] but not work.. [10:20] ip-route: I wouldn't use a package taken from an unknown source, especially for uml-utils [10:20] ip-route: install in /usr/local or make a slackbuild then [10:20] (and alien's slackbuild generator could even do it) [10:21] Quiznos: my mother lives about 600 miles away from me, I say whatever I want to her :) [10:22] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [10:22] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [10:22] Camarade_Tux on slackbuilds contains this package ? [10:22] ip-route: slackbuilds.org doesn't have it unfortunately [10:22] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:23] how come links -g won't run in X? I get svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem though it runs fine in the normal non-X console [10:23] mrselfpwn, it's designed to use framebuffer, and terms in X do not have framebuffer [10:23] i understand dive. thank you. [10:24] links can be rebuilt to do it in X [10:24] mrselfpwn: because X is already using the display? [10:24] oahong` (n=user@218.83.159.9) joined ##slackware. [10:25] i'd like to run it in X. just odd that fluxbox has it on it's menu by default. [10:25] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] let me look at Pat's slackbuild for X, i bet if you remove the --without-x it will work [10:26] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.44) left irc: "Leaving." [10:26] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:26] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [10:26] maybe your user doesn't have access to the mem [10:27] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] yup, remove the --without-x in the slackbuild and rebuild it [10:27] mancha: it works as the same user in the non-X console. [10:27] Pig_Pen: Thanks. that's Great! [10:27] quasar k [10:30] dive: http://pastebin.ca/1563181 [10:30] Camarade_Tux: ^^ [10:30] if anyone wants to double check the names and calculations, please do :P [10:31] i'm not sure it is called "a stick of vanilla" in english [10:31] that's a good phrase [10:31] macavity, thanks [10:31] .. and i have no idea how much 200g is in inchfootpounds systems [10:31] macavity: yaxm.org/!200g+in+oz [10:32] but 1kg strawberries, I'll have to wait a bit for that [10:32] macavity, we also use g so not a problem [10:32] my finger is two.5 cm; there are 5 fingers per hand. 10 acres in a football field and 5 fifths in a mile [10:32] (and I just realized I was thinking raspberries :D ) [10:32] lol [10:32] paul424_ (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:32] 5 fifths of jack in a mile. [10:32] yea yea [10:32] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@89.214.72.25) joined ##slackware. [10:32] lol [10:33] macavity what's 200g in kg? [10:33] Camarade_Tux: if you do it with raspberries you will probably have to multiply the ammount of sugar with 4 or 5 :-S [10:33] .2? [10:33] Quiznos: yes [10:33] macavity, 1kg is ~= 2.2 pounds (lb) [10:33] 1/5 of a kg [10:33] that's about a pound [10:33] Camarade_Tux how use bridge on slackware [10:33] i'm problem with VirtualBox [10:33] so er 200g = 2.2/5 [10:33] 16 ounces (1#) [10:33] Quiznos: no.. it is about 2/5 of a pound [10:33] 4 ounces? [10:34] ip-route: you want to have internet access in your guest? [10:34] 2/5 kg? [10:34] macavity: and 1kg of raspberries is a bit difficult to carry, you'll rather end up with raspberry juice ;) [10:34] .44 lb [10:34] 1kg == 1000grams [10:34] so about 1/2 a pund should dp [10:34] Camarade_Tux my problem is not this... [10:34] do* [10:34] Camarade_Tux: yes [10:35] Camarade_Tux my problem is to ping on guest ... [10:35] on/to [10:35] heh, i tell google i want "kg to pounds" the site it tells me has a link about expatriation; wth? [10:35] Oo 1kg != 1024 ? oh my [10:35] heh [10:35] appzer0: :P [10:35] with bridge mode understand ? [10:35] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [10:35] GF notifies ##slackware that in a pinch you can also use frozen strawberries [10:36] a meter unit is not a constant!!! [10:36] ip-route: you're doing network simulation, right? [10:36] the finished product tastes just as good, but is slightly more mushy [10:36] freeze it [10:36] Camarade_Tux yeap ! [10:36] :P [10:37] Just compiled busybox. Ended with a 'make install CONFIG_PREFIX=/tmp/build/ install'. Root. Thank you, bye bye -_- [10:37] ip-route: read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:vde ? :) [10:38] appzer0: :) [10:38] guess i have to upgradepkg --reinstall erm... all packages? [10:38] ok.. pastebing.ca did not like the word "jordbærgrød".. it became "jordbrgrd" [10:39] appzer0: that should not have anything to say [10:39] appzer0: according to posix you can define values in any place in a command block [10:39] appzer0: so "VALUE=foo command" and "command VALUE=foo" should ammount to the same [10:40] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [10:40] macavity: thanks, but i invoked _two_ install words [10:40] appzer0: where as "VALUE=foo command1; command2" is *not* the same as "command1; VALUE=foo command2", as those are in each their own block [10:41] one with a prefix and one without. My root partition is polluted in fact [10:41] what would two installs do then? [10:41] ah [10:41] :( [10:41] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-226.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] appzer0: thats a bug in make then! [10:42] oh? [10:42] 'make install CONFIG_PREFIX=/tmp/build/ install' and 'CONFIG_PREFIX=/tmp/build/ make install install' are *identical* [10:42] you can stick that VAR=val in *anywhere* in the same block [10:43] lio_0131 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.156) joined ##slackware. [10:43] lio_0131 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.156) left ##slackware. [10:43] anyhow.. GF made f00d [10:43] brb [10:44] otoh.. bbl :P [10:44] yay [10:44] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [10:46] jorgegr (n=jorgegr@ppp-94-64-190-193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks there is more than food going on... [10:47] hi i m new in slackware [10:48] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] does anyone now how i can install compiz [10:48] ?? [10:48] jorgegr: i bet theres a lot on google for that.. but download packages [10:48] and check dependecies [10:48] isn't compiz already in x/ ? [10:48] isn't it already on slack cd/dvd? [10:49] dive: haha, you're too slow! :P [10:49] :< [10:49] i try and nothing for use say [10:50] My '/' though is now full of symlinks pointing to 2-levels upwards in /usr/bin/, /bin and /sbin. In fact, pointing at themselves : /usr/bin/cut -> ../../bin/cut. But in /sbin, only 2 symlinks are broken: mount and umount. -_- [10:50] appzer0: c'est foutu :) [10:50] jorgegr, look on the slackware dvd [10:51] ok [10:51] one moment [10:51] inman (n=aligp@p579B468B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [10:51] in slackware/x/ [10:51] hi. is it possible with fluxbox to have two monitors connected and show workspace X on monitor A and workspace Y on monitor B? i.e. using multiple workspaces? [10:52] josteint, #fluxbox would know [10:52] hmm... that would cause problems with the mouse. maybe having one wide workspace would be better [10:53] compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz.asc [10:53] ans now what [10:53] jorgegr, insallpkg compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz [10:54] *installpkg [10:54] paul424_ (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [10:54] if indeed you are x86_64 [10:54] Cannot install compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz.asc: file does not end in .tgz, .tbz, .tlz, or .txz [10:55] it say [10:55] installpkg compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz [10:55] not .asc [10:55] installpkg compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz [10:55] Verifying package compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz. [10:55] xz: (stdin): File format not recognized [10:55] Channel flood from jorgegr -- kicking [10:55] Installing package compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz: [10:55] PACKAGE DESCRIPTION: [10:55] WARNING: Package has not been created with 'makepkg' [10:55] jorgegr kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:56] wth? [10:56] Slackboy's vengence strikes faster than Thor's hammer [10:56] :) [10:57] jorgegr (n=jorgegr@ppp-94-64-190-193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] bassist_ (n=bass@41.233.198.132) joined ##slackware. [10:57] installpkg compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz [10:57] Verifying package compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz. [10:57] xz: (stdin): File format not recognized [10:57] Channel flood from jorgegr -- kicking [10:57] Installing package compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz: [10:57] PACKAGE DESCRIPTION: [10:57] jorgegr kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:57] smart-- [10:58] aww; he quit irc [10:59] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-138-107.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] jorgegr (n=jorgegr@ppp-94-64-190-193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:59] yay he's ba-ack [11:00] yhat says to my [11:00] jorgegr: try pastebin.com next time and post the URL [11:00] and try not installing gpg signatures with installpkg [11:00] jorgegr: do not flood the channel, what slackware are you running and way are you messing with the compiz package? [11:00] i bet he has a release older than 13 [11:00] slackware64 13 [11:01] say it aint so ;p [11:01] you're sure of that? [11:01] yes [11:01] loser [11:01] what does: cat /etc/slackware-version say? [11:01] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.203.80) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] when you installed slackware64-13 did you install all of it? did you un-select any important packages??? [11:02] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [11:02] no [11:03] are you installing that package as root [11:03] user accounts do not get to install packages [11:03] yes [11:03] rather looks like a borken file [11:03] fyle corrupshun [11:03] as root [11:04] forget that i found it [11:04] jorgegr, try downloading the package from a mirror, or using slackpkg [11:04] about kpackage manager [11:04] no [11:04] jorgegr: where did you get slackware from? cd, dvd, internet, black market? [11:04] intrnet [11:04] lol [11:04] kpackage will not work for slackware packages [11:04] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/x/compiz-0.7.8-x86_64-4.txz [11:04] jorgegr: had connection troubles? [11:04] I gotz mine from youbefuckednowson.com ! :D [11:04] rpeter (n=rpeter@pool-06074.externet.hu) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [11:05] quasar: he :P [11:05] no [11:05] hello [11:05] hi rpeter [11:05] why is that guy still !n=mIRCuser? You'd think he would have some pride... [11:06] jorgegr (n=jorgegr@ppp-94-64-190-193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] bassist (n=bass@41.233.202.143) joined ##slackware. [11:07] Action: quasar shrugs [11:07] has he said anything in here since that day we told him his iptables script sucked? [11:07] not that I recall [11:07] I wonder if he's still pinging fbi? haha [11:07] i saw a four point chem trail yesterday; ew nasty [11:07] bassist (n=bass@41.233.202.143) left irc: Client Quit [11:08] the pilot couldnt fly a straight line either [11:08] heh [11:08] flew like he was drunk heh [11:08] chemtrail? next you will be inviting us to visit infowars.com [11:08] if you want [11:09] does your tinfoil hat have a chinstrap? [11:09] no but it does have a tuning pot [11:09] :) [11:09] better get a chinstrap so it does not fly off in the wind [11:09] wind caused by black heliocopters [11:10] Quiznos: do you read www.rense.com often? 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[11:17] i dont need to research it any more; i know enuf [11:17] oh my tinfoil hat with teh tuning potentiameter [11:17] yea [11:17] heh [11:17] i download it from mirror and i bern it with iso [11:18] Quiznos: you live in florida? i do too and never seen any chemtrails on atlantic coast of central florida [11:18] no; gulf side [11:18] Peace r. side [11:18] area [11:18] s. to n. flight vector [11:18] Quiznos: lots of air mixing in florida atmosphere, chemtrails get dispursed quickly [11:19] yea [11:19] i used to see alot of trails when i was in Pennsy [11:19] Quiznos: no white colored dust from chemtrails here ever [11:19] ok [11:19] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [11:19] jorgegr (n=jorgegr@ppp-94-64-190-193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [11:20] lots of dust reports from chemtrails out west in montana,idaho, etc [11:20] the 4 trails i saw were exiting from the tail [11:20] nods [11:20] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Quiznos: check with FAA to see if there are any 'jet routes' near your locale [11:21] there are airports n. and s. of me [11:21] kukibl (n=kuki@92.241.141.234) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Quiznos: google for 'jet routes florida' [11:21] ok; maybe later [11:21] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Quiznos: if you are near a jet route you will see lots of vapor trails from airliners [11:22] anyone here using pidgin 2.5.9 in slackware 13? what happened to the icons [11:22] yea but i dont htink i saw a passenger plane yesterday [11:22] it is from the hot jet exhaust condensating in the cold air at high altitude [11:22] kukibl (n=kuki@92.241.141.234) left irc: Client Quit [11:22] Pig_Pen: yep [11:22] Pig_Pen at the tail? [11:23] the engines are on the wings [11:23] Quiznos: airlines start making vapor trails above 18K feet and some airlines fly as high as 42K feet so they are hard to see [11:23] bassist_ (n=bass@41.233.198.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:23] some comercial jets also have an engine in the tail [11:23] this machine was clearly visible [11:23] Pig_Pen ok [11:24] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:24] *burb* [11:24] oops.. sorry :P [11:24] amen [11:24] Quiznos: try spotting the airliners with binoculars [11:24] tahtll take abit more forethought [11:24] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Bangladesh.dc-10.750pix.jpg i see an engine in the tail [11:24] http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200904/20090427_prince.html [11:25] Prince is worried about chemtrails, so you should be worried too! [11:25] i'm not worried; i'm sure i've gotten the recommended dosage :) [11:25] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:25] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:26] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-226.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:27] "when I was a kid, I used to see these trails in the sky [...] and the next you know, everybody in your neighborhood was fighting and arguing and you didn't know why, ok?" [11:27] heh [11:27] wow; is that fictional? [11:27] well, Prince said it [11:27] ah [11:27] he lives in a bit of a fantasy-land [11:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [11:28] fighting and arguing is part of human nature, it would have happened anyway [11:28] there can be external provocation [11:29] Pig_Pen: I posted that from a very tongue-in-cheek place. [11:29] yeah, like whatever topics they were fighting and argueing about [11:29] Pig_Pen: I've read/heard a lot about Prince and he's a space cadet. [11:29] heh [11:29] yes he is [11:30] If you want to know a little, watch An Evening with Kevin Smith where Smith talks about filming a "documentary" for Prince. [11:31] i alredy know too much [11:31] about him [11:31] I don't remember if it is on the first or second "Evening...". [11:31] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Oh crap, this is ##slackware and not ##slackofftopic [11:31] :P [11:32] heh [11:32] I should start looking at the status bar in irssi to see what channel I'm on. :P [11:33] So nobody wants to maintain all the old ham radio packages for Slackware, huh? [11:33] bummer [11:33] whats wrong with em? [11:34] Action: Zordrak thinks its time to investigate NXMachine [11:34] Quiznos: I think it's just a matter of lost interest. [11:34] the hamers are still around [11:35] Zordrak: it's the best thing since screen. [11:35] those consperacy whackos make books and films for the same reason churches pass around that basket every sunday = $$$ [11:35] ananke: thats some recommendation [11:35] money is not evil Pig_Pen [11:35] money is not evil [11:35] ananke: is there a build somewheres? [11:35] Pig_Pen: yep, its all about the money [11:36] hi I installed the newest linux drivers' - 185.18.36 and cannot get the gamma correction working ... what I am doing wrong ? [11:36] the whackos collecting the money are evil ;p [11:36] not all of em [11:36] yes all of them [11:36] Zordrak: depends. there are two main branches: freenx [alienbob has a slackbuild for it], and there's the commercial nx [limit for two users] [11:36] artv61j (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "Leaving." [11:36] Pig_Pen pls stop writing bs generalities and be specific in your complaints; generalities are rarely ever true!!! [11:36] argh.. my find-fu sucks [11:37] macavity: maybe ask in #bash [11:37] i can do -fu here [11:37] more info macavity [11:37] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:37] find . -name folder.jpg -exec mv '{}' cover.jpg [11:38] but that naturally moves all instances into $PWD [11:38] no; that's not what it does [11:38] ananke: the bottom line diff? i.e. any reason the free wouldnt be sufficient? [11:38] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:507) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Action: Zordrak continues to wonder why Bob doesnt submit his builds to SBo [11:38] so unless i do some | dirname | cd | yadiyadiya [11:38] bkac up [11:38] no; that's not what it does [11:38] Zordrak: the non-free version seems to be easier to get going. on supported distros it's simply a matter of installing the packages [11:39] Quiznos: do you understand what i am trying to accomplish? [11:39] macavity no; you wrote the find line wrong [11:39] macavity write what you want it to do [11:39] Zordrak: google is working on their own implementation of the server, neatx, i'm waiting for that to become easily available [11:39] macavity your followng descr and the find line tell 2 diff things [11:39] to find every file called folder.jpg and rename them to cover.jpg [11:39] ok [11:39] the directory structure is arbitrary deep [11:40] wow.. thats some set of build files [11:40] macavity ok; any other gotchas? [11:40] think i might take the package(!) [11:40] macavity so what's wrong with your -fu? [11:40] aw twat.. no 13.0 pkg [11:40] Quiznos: nope.. just dont count on any special kind of dir nesting [11:40] might have to build after all [11:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:41] macavity i'd insert a -print in that line and maybe s/exec/ok/ [11:42] Quiznos: find . -name folder.jpg -print0 | xargs -0 mv $THIS_IS_WHERE_IT_DOESNT_WORK [11:43] try s/-name/-path [11:45] macavity add -type d before -name|path [11:47] lastlog macavity [11:47] crap [11:47] :) [11:47] macavity: you're just trying to rename all cover.jpg to folder.jpg? [11:47] yes [11:48] find . -name folder.jpg -exec mv {} ${dirname {} }cover.jpg [11:48] macavity, why not use -exec? [11:48] godling: no, the other way around... [11:49] hiptobecubic: that is what i am trying to wrap my head around [11:49] i don' ttink you need the dirname [11:49] the above is what my head says.. but bash says "bad substitution" [11:49] find will give you the relative path from where you specify [11:50] yes [11:50] macavity, because you didn't escape the {} after dirname [11:50] find . -name folder.jpg -exec mv cover.jpg {} + ? [11:50] thrice`: isnt that the wrong way around? [11:50] folder.jpg -> cover.jpg [11:50] yes [11:50] oh, then switch em :) [11:51] thrice`: nice, didn't know about + [11:51] thrice`: but that gives "mv path/to/folder.jpg cover.jpg" [11:51] oh, right...hm [11:51] exactly :P [11:51] recently upgraded to slackware 13.0 and the included version of pidgin is "broken"... it's not showing any of the graphics it normally does, for example the graphics next to each name on the list [11:51] anyone know what's wrong? [11:52] dimm0k: did you enable them? [11:52] dimm0k: did you get creative with what packages you wanted to install, or did you do a full install as reccomended? [11:52] buddies->show->(protocol icons|buddy icons) [11:53] godling, that's enabled... but nothing. even the graphics used in the system tray show as a white page with a red X [11:53] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-238.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] someone is missing an icon package [11:53] macavity, i did a full install... only thing left out is the kdei packages [11:54] O_O [11:54] why would you want the + in that case? [11:54] it will overwrite things [11:54] what? [11:54] other discussion dimm0k [11:55] oh ok [11:56] dimm0k: do you see the "/usr/bin/update-gtk-immodules" lines during boot? [11:56] hiptobecubic: he wants to change the file names [11:56] for file in $(find . -name "folder.jpg"); do mv $file $(echo $file | sed 's/folder/cover/'); done [11:56] there ya go [11:56] err to have the slackware 13.0 I should download first three iso's, ... other are sources ? , right ? [11:56] mancha: DOH! >_< [11:56] Yes but he doesn'twant to find them all and write them to the same cover.jpg [11:56] mancha++ [11:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:56] mancha: I do it smaller in perl :P [11:56] :) [11:57] godling, you must be smarter than me. [11:57] I was just trying to figure out how to do it with find [11:57] mancha: probably not [11:57] hiptobecubic: yes i did [11:57] mancha: I'm just afraid of sed. [11:57] paul424: yes. [11:57] macavity, yes, i saw that... [11:57] macavity, why? You want to overwrite it every time? You'll only end up with the last one that you found [11:57] I just finished migrating a rootfs luks setup from an older disk to a newer disk that had a completely different partition layout...without reinstalling [11:57] and it works. [11:58] hiptobecubic: seek and destroy all folder.jpg.. in its place should only be the victorious cover.jpg [11:58] antiwire: heh, 12 hours later.. [11:58] agentc0re: the cp -a too forever [11:58] took* [11:58] macavity, yes but the + is not going to do that. It's going to seek and destroy all folder.jpg and then write a single cover.jpg file [11:58] so what was on the disks, government secrets or porn? ;P [11:58] godling: how can you say "i do it smaller in perl" and then "i am afraid of sed"? [11:58] both use regular expressions [11:58] but if I had reinstalled clean and rebuilt all of my packages it would have taken a week [11:59] screw perl [11:59] scripting nazi :P [11:59] perl is script [11:59] hiptobecubic: ah, right [11:59] BP{k}: http://pastebin.ca/1563181 [11:59] it is a scripting language, yes. [12:00] BP{k}: somerhing for keth to do ;-) [12:00] \o/ [12:01] perl is *not* a scripting language.. it is an abomination known as "the duct tape of the internet" [12:01] macavity: will tell her when she gets back. she's currently on food/beer run. ;) [12:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [12:01] BP{k}: text her to get strawberries and vanilla too :P [12:01] BP{k}: we have come to the conclutiuon that it is called "strawberry curd" in english.. does that sound about right? [12:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-98.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] BP{k}: if that doesnt suffice, it will probably be "strawberry nom" :P [12:02] hiptobecubic: I just meant I'm not against any particular scripting language [12:02] except VB [12:02] I don't care for VB. [12:02] ... [12:02] And what's wrong with VB? [12:03] if perl is the "duct tape of the internet" then python is "the bailing wire of the internet" both hold things together quite well [12:03] except I guess now it's a full-fledged programming language :P [12:03] hiptobecubic: it is a) not at all visually oriented, and b) not "basic" by a long shot ;-) [12:04] It has classes now. I didn't know that until some kid asked me to help him with his homework in the lab. [12:04] *the lab at school [12:04] Pig_Pen, perl IS the duct tape of the internet. Messy. Ugly. Annoying to change. [12:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] and leaves its glue residue on everything it touches ;p [12:05] well-written Perl is nice [12:05] godling, can't say the same for perl. unless you count that ridiculous ass 'bless' system [12:05] Action: Zordrak writes a perl one-liner to replace hiptobecubic [12:05] godling: so is well written assembler [12:05] that reminds me, i've been meaning to try that OS written in assembler [12:05] godling: however, in both cases, about 0.0001% of the programmers are actually able to do it [12:06] that fits on a floppy [12:06] godling: and of those, only about 1% *bother* to do it ;-) [12:06] I never want to write mips assembler again. [12:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.139) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:08] BP{k}: you are aware that it looks like a big bowl of bloodbuggers right? http://www.gugge.dk/opskrifter/desserter/jordbargrod.htm [12:08] Why doesn't this work? It should echo the path and then echo the path minus the file name. but the second echo just returns a '.' `find . -name folder.jpg -exec echo "$(echo {}) -> $(dirname "{}")" \;` [12:09] it's fun to write elegant code in mips but I had to use spim [12:09] hiptobecubic: i belive the manpage says you can only use the {} construct once [12:10] oh did it? rats [12:10] you are running: dirname "" [12:11] no that's just with + [12:11] not with ; [12:11] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [12:13] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-67-124-90-47.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] right [12:14] find . -exec echo {} {} \; works as planned [12:14] printing twice [12:14] anyhow, the for i in $(.... works for me [12:14] sure, but i'd like to understand find well enough to see it work that way too [12:14] roger [12:15] did anyone of you had problem with the gammacorrection after installing native nvidia drivers ? maybe some modules need to be present ? [12:15] but still.. you get trouble with the nested "dirname {}" [12:15] yes [12:15] you have to remove the $() [12:15] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:16] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] paul424: gamma works fine here [12:19] the thing is I don;'t have that bar at all ... [12:19] hmm [12:19] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: shaken, not stirred" [12:20] I have just upgraded from 12.2 to 13.0, but some old tgz packages was not replaced by upgradepkg to the new txz one; should I still upgrade them, or is it unnecessary? [12:21] rpeter, did you read changes_and_hints? They might be deprecated or what have you [12:21] hiptobecubic: what did you end up with that worked? [12:22] I don't think, just of the same version [12:22] macavity, i haven't yet. There is a bizarre problem. $(echo {}) returns the full path and filename but $(dirname {}) returns just a dot [12:23] yes [12:23] paul did you let nvidia build a new xorg.conf ?? [12:23] paul424: ^ [12:24] mac, does this work to convert back? find . -name "cover.jpg" -exec rename 'cover' 'folder' {} \; [12:24] yay mancha [12:24] \o/ [12:24] ahh rename [12:25] Pig_Pen: to be honest I don't know ... I messed with it all yesterday .... don't know what the final version is [12:25] yeah rename removes the dirname pain with mv :) [12:25] I should run nvidia-config as i suppose > [12:26] godling, i thought about that ust for you and your sed-phobia :> [12:26] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.200.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:26] mancha: that works [12:26] anyway I run it and it does change nothing all the flags all the options are the same ... hmmm ... [12:26] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [12:27] get out of X and in the console run nvidia-xconfig paul [12:27] so if you reverse cover/folder you will get it back with that same find line [12:27] i was not aware that rename worked that way [12:27] rename will also number files for you [12:27] very handy [12:28] mac in its simplest version it acts as a sed for the first occurence [12:28] I guess I have an old version though because the documents I'm finding are talking about a -v and -n option which I just don't see in the manpage. [12:28] huh? [12:28] s/the/my/ [12:28] find . -name "cover.jpg" -exec rename 'cover' 'folder' {} \; <- solves the original problem [12:28] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] er "my manpage" [12:29] arrg [12:29] now i have myself confused [12:29] find . -name "folder.jpg" -exec rename 'folder' 'cover' {} \; <- THIS solves the original problem [12:29] why? [12:29] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.149) joined ##slackware. [12:30] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] haha oh [12:30] find . -name "cover.jpg" -exec rename 'cover' 'folder' {} \; <- this reverts [12:30] mac, exactly [12:30] ok, back to trying to up-port this stupid kernel module...cheers [12:30] good luck :-/ [12:31] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:34] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-166.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] its raining! woohoo! my brownish lawn needs it [12:35] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] Pig_Pen: green paint? [12:36] :D [12:36] obtain garden hose next time it wont rain? [12:36] as big as my lawn is it would cost a fortune to water it with a hose [12:37] ok.. here water is next to free [12:37] macavity: so it's your country that is hording our water supply [12:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] i think we pay like $.5/Ton [12:39] we do, however, pay quite a bit for waste water [12:39] err.. for getting rid of [12:39] Pig_Pen: how big is your lawn? [12:40] hey how do I resteart the X server without restarting the pc ? [12:40] antler: Denmark is an isle.. we are one of the countries with the longest cost lines in the world [12:41] antler: .. despite being a tiny little pissant of a country.. but it does ensure an enourmus amount of fresh water [12:41] paul424: alt-ctrl-backspace or exit and startx again [12:41] macavity: Denmark is a prison [12:41] hey you programmers in here: is it true that any function i can clearly define and put in a finite number of steps can be transcribed into one of the program languages? [12:41] paul424: depending on runlevel.. [12:42] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [12:42] paul424: what? [12:42] macavity: denmark sounds nice [12:42] pissant? [12:42] macavity: ^^ [12:42] piss ant == little red kind of ant found in forrests [12:43] or pantries [12:43] ;P [12:43] yes, any turing complete language can carry out the steps of any other turing complete language [12:43] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:43] heh i've never heard of them [12:43] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [12:44] i wonder why paul didnt feel like defending his statement that "Denmark is a prison" :P [12:46] because he knew you would say, "i wonder why paul didn't feel like defending his statement" [12:46] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:47] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Or maybe his computer time was over and show time was up? Don't drop the soap paul. [12:47] haha [12:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [12:48] lol [12:49] hey macavity : how do you feel about a woman leading your country? [12:49] :D [12:49] Action: macavity blinks [12:50] we have had effective democracy since 1700 and something [12:50] so, i guess you are mistaken our queen for a leader :P [12:50] she has no power? [12:51] only in the very extreme cases [12:51] monarchs typically don't, do they? [12:51] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@89.214.72.25) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:51] .. like she can fire the government and write out a new election [12:51] loook (n=chatzill@201-27-169-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:51] typically? i dunno. she has power in the uk, i think [12:51] don't you watch the Venture Brothers? Monarchs don't sting... [12:51] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [12:51] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] loook (n=chatzill@201-27-169-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:52] and, i belive, in the case of national bankrupcy and or coup, the army obays the monarch [12:52] ah, I am mistaken [12:52] the official contract here is that her majesty employs the government to run the country [12:53] macavity: i would say only a leader of a country can fire the government. :P [12:53] antler: its an either-or [12:53] hmmm, the queen is more or less of a figurehead than the queen in england? [12:53] antler: either fire the governemnt, or shut up and smile :P [12:53] there's also a "royal prerogative' [12:53] macavity: in any case, she has the authority. she leads you. [12:54] antler: if you insist... [12:54] Previously had pidgin 2.6.2 built with the SlackBuild script from Slackware 12.2 and everything was fine. Upgraded to Slackware 13.0 last night and it had downgraded pidgin to 2.5.9, which is fine except that now all the .png graphics used in pidgin show as a white piece of paper with a red X. I've tried compiling a local copy of pidgin 2.6.2 as user, but that results in the same thing. Anyone know what's going on or what else [12:54] I would think that usually the parliament leads the way and the Queen just steps in if things get crazy [12:54] not just usually [12:54] i own two & a half acres, out of all that 1 acre is lawn [12:54] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Pig_Pen: wow.. [12:55] dimm0k, remove ~/.pidgin or something? [12:55] dimm0k: rename your .purple folder to .purple.old and restart pidgin. [12:55] liz's influence on canada is next to minimal [12:55] godling: i belive the danish monarch has only fired the government once in the past 300 years [12:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host81-152-53-179.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] godling: and if he/she fires the gotv, a new election is up right away (by law) [12:56] i wish the danish monarch could fire the us government. :P [12:56] hell no [12:56] macavity: I was reading about monarchy in the UK but it seems that many monarchies are like the UK [12:56] macavity: would you say your society is matriarchical (sp?)? [12:56] then when it gets a new one, Denmark will be bombed back to the stone age [12:56] dimm0k: did you upgrade from 12.2 to 64-bit 13? cause you might have a config file in your home dir that mentions /usr/lib/pidgin/whatever, only in 64-bit it's /usr/lib64/pidgin... [12:56] "I wanna be... monarchy!" [12:56] "'cause if they can do it once, they can do it twice!" [12:56] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] antler: ask my GF ;-) [12:57] lol [12:57] hilarious [12:58] vacuum coffee makers are so cool to watch. :D [12:58] ok, thats the reverse of what i am used to [12:59] usually high pressure steam is pushed thoruh the ground beans [12:59] agentc0re: never heard of those [12:59] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:00] expensive :P [13:01] makes tastier coffee or pretty cool to have around the house? :P [13:01] the vacuum maker i have was cheaper than or about the same price as a drip maker. Does 8 cups too. [13:02] video of one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxIs2GVsqgY [13:02] i wanna get a machine that makes tim hortons coffee exactly the way they serve it at tim hortons [13:02] jonsmith1982, agentc0re, ok... just removed .gaim, .purple and there's no .pidgin for me... started pidgin and added my account, but still no graphics... not even the graphic in the system tray is showing [13:02] Urchlay, unfortunately i'm running the 32-bit... [13:03] what desktop environment / window manager? [13:03] dimm0k: hrmm... [13:04] agentc0re, i've even removed libpng package and installed it again [13:04] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] dimm0k: i belive rworkman has some knowledge about pidgin [13:04] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [13:05] agentc0re: haha cool [13:05] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:05] macavity, any idea where i may find him? [13:05] dimm0k: right here in this channel, if he's awake [13:06] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] dimm0k: deep in the cave of wonder [13:06] he's fishing down at the lake, go get him [13:06] dimm0k: You will find a lamp [13:06] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.149) joined ##slackware. [13:06] he's kinda like a demon, you speak his name to summon him [13:06] dimm0k: you must touch nothing but the lamp [13:06] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "back to the bottle" [13:06] does anyone know how to get the MF636 USB modem to work under Slackware 13.0? [13:06] i thought it was when you touched yourself.. [13:07] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:07] hahahaha [13:08] dimm0k: here.. in this very channel [13:08] dimm0k: how did you upgrade from 12.2 to 13? [13:08] Can anyone point me at a basic slack doc for freenx? The install from bob seems to be missing /usr/bin/nxagent .. but i may have missed somehting [13:09] agentc0re: isn't it hell on earth to clean that thinge between brews? [13:09] dimm0k: just ping him and hang tight [13:09] dimm0k: i would guess he comes online in about 3-4 hours [13:09] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Client Quit [13:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.122) joined ##slackware. [13:10] macavity: nopers. it's pretty easy honestly. when the grounds dry out, it makes it easy to dump them out of the top. then you just rinse everything and you're all set. [13:10] macavity: the filter is reusable cloth. so you just scrub that a bit and, bingo. all done. [13:10] ok.. i think a funnel with a filter is easier :P [13:11] who could with a working gamma under nvidia drivers could paste the xorg.conf file ? [13:11] do you just french press? [13:11] please please helpe me [13:11] Action: Zordrak pokes ananke [13:11] i like the idea of those coffee makers. almost nothing is wasted and everything is reused [13:11] paul424: ...? why? my xorg.conf has nothing in there about specifying the gamma. [13:11] has anybody used wvdial? [13:12] Action: Zordrak pokes agentc0re too.. but that one's just for fun [13:12] 1) hold funnel over garbage can 2) turn funnel upside down 3) place funnel on top of the thermo 4) put filter in funnel 5) add coffee grinds to the filter 6) add boiling water to teh coffee [13:12] but I suppose I have missed some options which should be put into xorg.conf [13:12] Action: agentc0re giggles [13:12] ok, paul424 give me a minute [13:12] 7) goto 1 [13:13] macavity: coffee water isn't suppose to boil! you're doing it all wrong. :P [13:13] snearch (n=olaf@92.116.221.5) joined ##slackware. [13:13] http://pastebin.com/d7d2f2fce paul424 [13:13] dimm0k: did you upgrade using slackpkg? [13:14] dimm0k: and if you create a test user, does pidgin do the same thing? [13:15] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] Action: Zordrak = douche. Didn't even notice there were two pks not one [13:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uug21daZInI this song is great. can't stop listening too it. [13:15] Action: Zordrak stabs the bastard thats cooking a barbecue [13:15] Zordrak: lol [13:17] rob0 (i=rob0@sorry.nodns4.us) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [13:17] agentc0re: ptchaw.. still whining about them aeroplanes [13:17] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.200.229) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Zordrak: it boggles my mind why you would even say something like that.. And no, i just like the beat. nice to wake up to. [13:19] Hey, did anyone have microphone problems with Lenovo Laptops? [13:19] Intel HD Audio stuff [13:20] agentc0re: i meant them.. not you, but whatever [13:20] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [13:22] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:22] bassist_ (n=bass@41.233.200.123) joined ##slackware. [13:22] paul424 (n=chatzill@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:22] bassist_ (n=bass@41.233.200.123) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [13:24] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:25] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.24.193) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Zordrak: You got a problem with barbecue? [13:25] DrPepper (i=ClockWor@213.167.198.39) left ##slackware. [13:26] speed on speed wheels on wheels! [13:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:27] godling: if they aint feeding it to me... hell yes i got a problem with it [13:27] haha [13:27] :) [13:27] Zordrak: go complain [13:27] I'll kill them, I'll kill them, I'll kill them! [13:27] godling: busy compiling my ass off [13:28] Zordrak: you've totally got time if you're compiling ;P [13:28] snL20: Billy Idol? [13:29] Zordrak: Bah, create a script to compile everything for you in one shot then go steal the BBQ. [13:29] Zordrak: bring a beer and just walk in like you were invited. [13:29] I'll KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL them, die, die, die! [13:29] but thatd be like.. having to speak to people [13:29] maybe if i just ran in stole all the meat and ran out.. [13:29] Camarade_Tux: ?? wth [13:29] You don't have to talk to anyone. [13:30] Just walk in and roll the bbq out [13:30] Zordrak: dress-up in a pink bunny suit. they wont expect a large pink bunny to talk. [13:30] "When are you going to take off that stupid human suit?" [13:31] Urchlay: heheh, we were talking about that movie yesterday. [13:31] agentc0re: my problem gobject-introspection devels sucking [13:31] pink bunny suit or au naturale [13:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:31] agentc0re: I thought I understood that movie until I tried to explain it to someone not long ago... now I gotta watch it again [13:32] snearch (n=olaf@92.116.221.5) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:32] Urchlay: I have a friend that works for the state that deals with fraud. He was in training and some cops were there. They talked about how when they can't get a suspect to talk they turn the recorder off and then someone comes in dresssed as a pink bunny and beats the crap outa them. [13:32] you won't go to the bbq because you'd have to talk to people, but what if they were having a d n' d party, huh? :P [13:32] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.18) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:32] Urchlay: one of the other guys said they didn't have a bunny suit but they had a McGruff suit. LOL [13:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Urchlay: I've watched that movie like 5 times now... I keep noticing something new each time. It's a really good movie if it continues to have that effect after that many watches. [13:33] godling: you mean freeing the bird? ;) [13:34] Dominian: noobfarm.org not loading and slackadelic not loading either [13:35] godling: yeah [13:35] agentc0re: trying to remember whether I ever had the DVD of it... and if so, whether that's the director's cut or the short (incomprehensible) cut [13:35] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Nick change: nod_ -> nod [13:37] Zordrak: fly high, free bird! [13:37] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [13:37] what movie? [13:38] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.200.229) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] does kde4 autoscan /usr/share/apps or /usr/share/applications for its K menu.. or is it purely a manual thing? [13:39] hm, kde3 did a scan like that, can't imagine 4 wouldn't [13:39] (but that's no real answer, is it?) [13:39] it could have been better :) [13:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Quiznos: Donnie Darkko (or however it's spelled) [13:40] k [13:40] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-166.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:40] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: "[BX] Oral sex makes your day" [13:40] done in darko [13:41] rpeter (n=rpeter@pool-06074.externet.hu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:41] bbl; tomatos .59$ at local farm store [13:42] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] ... wth? really? (11:39:00 AM) dimm0k left the room (quit: "[BX] Oral sex makes your day"). [13:42] lmao!! [13:42] that's great. [13:43] Greetings everyone. :) [13:43] Greetings gentleman. [13:43] fire|bird: wotcha :) [13:44] howdy BP{k}, how are you? :) [13:44] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] hello godling [13:44] fire|bird: y0 :P [13:44] y0 agentc0re [13:44] dartmout1 (n=dartmout@mathesar.kwzs.be) joined ##slackware. [13:44] hmm [13:45] bwahahaha [13:45] im at work using an ajax terminal fo a tunnel lol [13:45] seems kde4 takes from /usr/share/applications/kde4 .. but the stuff im getting from bob drops in /usr/share/applications/ [13:45] dartmout1 (n=dartmout@mathesar.kwzs.be) left irc: Client Quit [13:45] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:45] fire|bird: Plane is back up this weekend... :D [13:46] fire|bird: I am good :) yourself? [13:46] agentc0re: awesome :) [13:46] BP{k}: excellent, thank you. :) [13:46] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [13:48] hmmmmm [13:48] The desktop entry file "/usr/share/applications/kde4/koffice.desktop" has Type= "Application" but no Exec line [13:48] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:507) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:49] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:49] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] ffs what am i missing.. linked the VirtualBox.desktop file into the kde4 subdir and reran kbuildsycoca4 . still not there [13:52] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [13:53] grah fuck you microsoft live mesh [13:53] has anybody used wvdial successfully? [13:54] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) joined ##slackware. [13:54] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) joined ##slackware. [13:55] oahong`` (n=user@218.83.159.9) joined ##slackware. [13:55] spook: nah, fuck bad open-source developpers :) [13:55] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] Camarade_Tux: it has so many bugs. [13:57] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:57] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:57] oahong` (n=user@218.22.80.149) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:58] omnidroid (n=omnidroi@174.33.47.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:58] spook: I prefer that to gobject-introspection, can't the developper just not suck? [13:58] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Camarade_Tux: what if the dev is a girl though? :D [14:00] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [14:00] agentc0re: considering his name, I doubt it ;) [14:01] and I'd still feel the same [14:01] Can someone in xfce 4.6 help me confirm an issue? [14:01] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] hiptobecubic: what's up? [14:02] gobject-introspection is meant for developpers, when someone reports a bug, asks for something, says anything, he most probably has a clue [14:02] Catoptro1ancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] hiptobecubic: sure. [14:02] run `time python -c "import gtk; c = gtk.clipboard_get(); c.set_text('asspants'); c.store()"` then install clipman 1.0.1 panel plugin from SBo. Stick it on a panel. [14:02] and run the cmommand again [14:03] anyone have a problem with ioq3 in slackware 13? The game plays fine but if I try to exit game it freezes and I have to kill X [14:03] I have tried older revisions I knew worked in slack12.2 [14:03] On my box, having clipman running makes the c.store() call take over 10 seconds. [14:03] and it still happens, so it must be a slack13 problem [14:03] hiptobecubic: or the problem is with python :) [14:03] s/sure/oh sorry i can't i'm busy and too lazy to do all that work [14:03] without it the whole thing takes less than half a second [14:03] everything else works perfectly [14:03] :P [14:03] hiptobecubic: you want to write something in C [14:03] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:03] has anybody successfully installed and used wvdial on slackware 13.0? [14:03] Camarade_Tux, python is in C :) [14:03] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.201.35) joined ##slackware. [14:04] hiptobecubic: I can't, I get a Python error. sorry. [14:04] ah you need pygtk. install it if you're willing (SBo), else don't worry about it. [14:04] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:05] I have pygtk installed but something is screwy and I can't be bothered to figure out what atm :) [14:05] hey [14:05] someone know howto register nick? [14:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [14:06] acidtripper: /msg nickserv help [14:06] hiptobecubic: no, there is a layer between what you write and what gets called in gtk, you definitely want to do that in C [14:06] becouse i made /msg nickserv REGISTER and [14:06] and I think 13 has pytgtk [14:06] pygtk is also written in C isn't it? [14:06] it sais insufficent parameters [14:07] acidtripper: why did you think ##slackware would be a good place to ask that? :) [14:07] is it safe to install wvdial from slackbuilds.org? [14:07] Camarade_Tux, and regardless, the difference between python and C is not the problem here. The problem is the way the store() method in pygtk is written or the way clipman handles the clipboard. [14:07] hiptobecubic: if you don't write it in C, you don't know what the problem is : xfce, the addon, python, gtk, pygtk [14:07] flame_me: safe? [14:07] in C, you strip out python and gtk [14:08] becouse im in this channel and in archlinux, and is the place where i can ask, #archlinux require to register for talking [14:08] Camarade_Tux, without clipman running, it works very fast. with clipman it works very very slow. I think that narrows it down pretty well to the interaction between it and clipman [14:08] flame_me: most probably [14:08] do you have any problem godling [14:08] hiptobecubic: are you just trying to figure out if it's a bug for everyone or just you? [14:08] ? [14:08] hiptobecubic: not necessarily :) [14:08] agentc0re, yes. [14:08] anybody can upload his own scripts on slackbuilds.org, right? [14:09] flame_me: but they need to be approved [14:09] flame_me: it's moderated [14:09] oh [14:09] :) [14:09] flame_me: you can, but it will require approval. check out SBo site for how to submit one and also checkout #slackbuilds [14:09] flame_me: http://www.slackbuilds.org/guidelines/ [14:09] If you have an idea for a package and you want to submit a slackbuild for it by all means go for it [14:10] fire|bird, come give me a hug :) [14:10] AHH, no, hug godling or something. :P [14:10] Camarade_Tux: How's it going? [14:10] Action: godling doesn't hug. [14:10] flame_me, but do check the build isn't already in our repository [14:10] Camarade_Tux: hug agentc0re then. :P [14:10] man "A frame" hug. [14:11] which repository, BP{k}? [14:11] fire|bird: feeling like killing a few people but fine otherwise, and you, :) [14:11] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs agentc0re [14:11] flame_me: the one at slackbuilds.org :) [14:11] flame_me: go there and search to make sure that what you want to submit isn't already there. [14:11] Camarade_Tux: doing great, thanks. [14:11] I don't want to submit anything, I need to install wvdial [14:11] Action: fire|bird hopes he's not on Camarade_Tux's hit list. :/ [14:12] and from what I remember, someone told me slackbuilds are the best way to install applications on Slackware [14:12] flame_me: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/wvdial/ [14:12] gg :) [14:12] fire|bird: French hitmen can be scary (did you ever see "The Professional"?) [14:12] that's the one for slackware 13.0 ^^^ [14:12] Urchlay: never seen it, but heard of it. [14:12] fire|bird: you're not, you got removed right after I did my things with you :) [14:12] yes, but he's Italian in Leon (The Professional) [14:12] Camarade_Tux: I will give you the address of my work. i'll "accidentally" drop my keycard so you can get in. just let me know what day so i wont show up. [14:12] Urchlay: hmmm, need to check the translation [14:12] agentc0re: hahaha [14:13] agentc0re: he ;p [14:13] "did my things with you" ..... ahh... that doesn't sound good at all. [14:13] sure it does [14:13] Urchlay: which one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Professional ? [14:13] well [14:13] "good" [14:13] agentc0re: no, it sure doesn't. :P [14:13] flame_me: hm, the actor I thought is French, even if the character's supposed to be Italian [14:13] hiptobecubic: not for fire|bird. :P [14:14] agentc0re: Camarade_Tux almost seems like the type that has voodoo dolls representing all of us. :/ [14:14] Camarade_Tux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_%28film%29 (apparently "the professional" isn't the correct title) [14:14] with Jean Réno ? [14:14] hmmm, yeah :) [14:14] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] "Léon (also known as The Professional and Léon: The Professional) " [14:14] Urchlay: nope, never saw it =/ [14:15] fire|bird: s/almost// :) [14:15] Camarade_Tux: AH HA, I KNEW it. :P [14:15] Camarade_Tux: it's worth watching [14:15] Urchlay: it's on my towatch-list but I haven't had the time =/ [14:15] oh, hey, Camarade_Tux, did you ever try building that irssi_otr thing? [14:16] There's an irssi off the record thing? [14:16] haha, cool, there is. [14:17] Urchlay: nope [14:17] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:18] fire|bird: you want to help me test it? [14:18] Urchlay: sure, I'll get to building it. [14:18] I got a slackbuild [14:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:18] cool [14:18] http://dpaste.com/92489/ http://dpaste.com/92490/ ftp://download.tuxfamily.org/irssiotr/irssi-otr-0.3.tar.gz [14:18] one of those pastes is the slackbuild, the other's the slack-desc [14:19] so far I've just verified that it builds, the package installs OK, and you can "/load libotr" in irssi without crashing it :) [14:20] ok [14:20] oh, and "/otr help" is, uhm, helpful [14:21] haha, ok, just building now. :) [14:21] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] problem solved godling [14:22] no more bothering [14:22] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [14:22] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.141.167) joined ##slackware. [14:23] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:24] see ya guys [14:24] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [14:24] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] Urchlay: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ub6LEx54.html [14:25] heh, helps if I have libotr :P [14:26] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [14:30] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:30] neonflux (n=mrjones@ip67-152-80-238.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [14:31] Camarade_Tux, it was a bug in clipman. upgrade to 1.0.1 -> 1.1.0 solves it [14:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.201.35) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:36] Urchlay: alright, built and installed. [14:36] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:36] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] grazymax (n=grazymax@host48-39-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:37] time to order pizza [14:37] anyone? [14:37] macavity: that better be for the whole channel. :P [14:38] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.199.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] fire|bird: cool [14:38] hi all [14:38] hello grazymax [14:38] sure.. just PM me the orders and i will use my 12% off gift card [14:38] depending on where you live it might be a while before the pizza actually shows up though [14:38] hi fire|bird [14:38] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-57.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Old_Spike0: Old_Fogie? [14:39] macavity: haha, refridgerated airplane? :P [14:39] ok [14:39] fire|bird: I think your libotr should be doing key gen now [14:39] (if you actually have it loaded in irssi) [14:39] fire|bird: no, heat bin + *very* fast airplane :P [14:39] Urchlay: yup, it is. [14:39] macavity: hahaha, that could work too. :P [14:39] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-139-61.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] fire|bird: hm, does it actually say it's doing keygen? Mine doesn't say anything... [14:41] Urchlay: It says keygen initiated [14:41] and now it says, private keys loaded [14:42] hiptobecubic: ok [14:42] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] hiptobecubic: the reason I was saying that is that I am myself involved in language bindings and I can guarantee you they create bugs ;) [14:43] they certainly do [14:43] which is what i was looking for [14:44] so.. all of the Windows API is really so broken because it is C, C++ and C# bindings to VisualBasic? [14:44] Urchlay: ok, it opened a query window for you now and says "gone secure" [14:45] it appears to maybe be working [14:45] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:45] hmm [14:45] Urchlay: yeah, it does. [14:45] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [14:45] otr? [14:45] in pidgin? [14:45] irssi [14:45] ah [14:46] lol.. pidgin :P [14:46] i was gonna say [14:46] pidgin has it too though [14:46] i thought we were done ramming pidgin in the ass for now [14:46] AFAIK, the irssi otr plugin ought to interoperate with the pidgin one just fine [14:46] hiptobecubic: hahaha [14:46] hiptobecubic: oh no.. everytime we dont know what else to doo it is pidginramming or editor wars [14:47] someone with pidgin + OTR want to try it? [14:47] macavity, that's only because fire|bird uses that shitty emacs shitty shit [14:47] also it sucks [14:47] poop [14:47] he probably uses it with fraptastic vi key bindings.. [14:48] if he has an ounce of sense he does [14:48] Urchlay: |alisonken1churc is using it. dont know anyone else [14:49] macavity: Well of course. :P [14:50] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-33-48.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:50] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:50] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.24.193) left irc: "Leaving" [14:52] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [14:54] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:54] ok just got back from class... [14:54] :) [14:55] im disappointed [14:55] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:55] for one [14:55] my professor was incredibly socialist [14:55] erm [14:55] i mean liberal [14:55] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.179.140) joined ##slackware. [14:56] did he want you to share your brown bag lunch? i hate it when i find out the teach took a bite of my PP&J sandwish [14:56] by liberal i mean holy shit, he goes overboard [14:56] no [14:56] but my professor kept telling me how evil conservative people ar [14:56] lol [14:56] like actually "all conservatives should die" literally word for word [14:57] That's pretty awful. [14:57] extremely [14:57] first day of class and we are given a shit load of work [14:57] for example [14:57] "name 5 liberal achievements and name 5 conservative failures" [14:57] hahaha [14:57] i dont know how im gonna succeed in this class [14:58] It's not a side you can take if you have your head on straight. [14:58] so one more conservative failure? [14:58] well im conservative [14:58] Taking either side is a joke. [14:58] but [14:58] even i dont go to say "all liberals should die" [14:58] but this teacher just straight out said it [14:58] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:58] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] surrealgirl: just suck it up and spoon feed him [14:58] and he goes on to blame conservatives for all the war today [14:58] yeah i am [14:58] someone mentioned in class "yeah but what about vietnam and korea war? both were started by democrats that were very liberal" [14:59] he said "thats not true, dont listen to whoever told you that" [14:59] lol. [14:59] i mean wow.. they werent kidding when they said professors in college are very liberal [14:59] Is your teacher under 30? [14:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:59] arts professors are mostly arseholes [15:00] velusip, over 30 [15:00] hes a political science professor [15:00] No he's not. [15:00] :P [15:00] hes a political science arsehole [15:01] i think i found the most awesomest jazz song, the last few minutes just blows me away, its is a song called "Kelly Blue" by Howard Johnson & Gravity [15:01] dimm0k (n=nmok@pool-71-183-187-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: made with real honey." [15:01] velusip, um he is [15:01] You're not challenging his title? [15:01] I thought you were. [15:02] whose title? [15:02] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [15:02] holy fuck, did I just switch into another channel by accident? [15:03] his title, hes not a professor, hes just some arsehole who doesnt want to discuss things, he just wants to rant [15:03] velusip: nope. typical day in ##slackware [15:03] this is ##UFO_Pilot we all work for Lockeed Skunkworks @ Area51 [15:03] ananke: more like typical surrealgirl@##slackware [15:03] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Those who do not feel pain seldom think that it is felt." Dr. Samuel Johnson" [15:04] spook: actually, you nailed it [15:04] me? challenge a professor? nope [15:04] and im not interrupting anyones question now am i? if not i just wanna talk :x [15:04] surrealgirl: not when you're taking his class anyway [15:04] surrealgirl: oh i didnt mean it as a bad thing, its just the kind of thing you are known for :) [15:05] oh :x [15:05] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:06] oh btw, happy programmer's day everybody [15:06] just kinda... surprised... [15:06] programmers day? [15:06] there is such a holiday for losers? [15:06] 256th day of the year. [15:06] jk [15:06] in russia. [15:07] That's kinda silly. You'd think the day would be called digital electronics day. Programmers are just pests destined to misinterpret the hardware. :P [15:08] Ok.. i have a media centre slackware box.. i have a tv card in it.. huge amounts of media, i have a usb infrared receiver and a remote control designed for the purpose.. what i dont have is a decision as to what to run it all off... do i go compile mythtv.. or do you have any better suggestions? [15:08] Zordrak: get a mac mini and run plex on it. [15:08] [on osx that is] [15:08] surrealgirl: teachers have to be socialists :P [15:08] Zordrak: lircd, mythtv [15:08] so funny i almost shat myself(!) [15:08] Zordrak: geexbox [15:09] Camarade_Tux, why? [15:09] surrealgirl: but come to France for instance, you'll see that your left wing is our right wing ;) [15:09] however mythtv for qt4 isnt stable yet :/ [15:09] Camarade_Tux, lol jeez.. [15:09] spook: aw maaan [15:09] thats the big college consperacy, all the colleges are turning communist [15:09] Zordrak: it wasn't meant to be. i've ran mythtv on slack for 5 years. finally i got tired of using 2002 technology. mythtv hasn't progressed any since then [15:09] Zordrak: yeah i know [15:10] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] what about xbmc? [15:10] surrealgirl: teachers are rather leftists :) [15:10] its no big deal really, once the student is out of college and has to go in to the real world corporate america will corrupt them in to a nice conservative capitalist [15:10] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.52.81) joined ##slackware. [15:11] surrealgirl, sounds like you need a decent private school [15:11] hiptobecubic, mine is cuny [15:11] cuny is known for quality education [15:11] but man.. [15:11] Zordrak: the only decent thing that mythtv still has going for it is the actual tv part. as to the other aspects of a typical media center box, it has fallen behind. products such as xbmc, boxee, plex, etc - put it to shame, in terms of features and ease of use [15:11] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl15-170.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:11] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:12] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [15:12] Pig_Pen: yeah, teachers need to balance that :p [15:12] Zordrak: not to mention, some aspects of doing this on linux are just pain in the neck. for example, trying to route all your audio via digital output [15:12] ananke: the only requirement is that is runs on slack.. or can run without complaint in seamless mode with XP on vbox [15:12] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) joined ##slackware. [15:13] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [15:13] I just installed Slackware 13 64 bit and my keyboard and mouse are both frozen in X [15:13] anybody have any ideas? [15:13] Zordrak, xine is good for dvb [15:13] Zordrak: sounds like you really do want to invest a lot of time in setting this up [15:13] switches channel alot faster too. [15:14] ananke: the time has already been invested [15:14] i have the infrastructure.. just not the app [15:14] randux: Do you have an Intel videocard? [15:14] video card* [15:14] yes, g31/33 chipset [15:15] Zordrak: unfortunately, it's just the beginning. even mapping your lirc config for all your apps [mythtv, then mplayer or xine], all take a lot of time [15:15] lirc SBo not done for 13.0 - might have to check the build for 12 [15:16] antiwire: yes, g31/33 chipset [15:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:17] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [15:17] could convert the vboxxp to media centre :( [15:17] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) joined ##slackware. [15:17] hi [15:17] randux: The keyboard works in console though? [15:17] tooly (n=tooly@85.178.141.167) left irc: "Leaving." [15:17] antiwire: yes [15:18] randux: try running xorgsetup so it creates a basic xorg.conf [15:18] wierd... why my kde freezes about 20 secs. and then again after a while [15:18] antiwire: that was the 1st thing I tried, no joy. 2nd thing was Xorg -configure, also didn't work [15:18] It's weird because I ran 12.2 on this box no problems [15:18] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-95-62.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:18] randux: A lot has changed in X since 12.2 [15:19] antiwire: yes it sure looks like it [15:19] So many geeks are media fanatics, why the hell is linux media centre development so non existant [15:19] does xorgsetup have any use in slack 13 now that hal does most of the work in X? [15:19] e [15:19] any other suggestions? [15:19] v3gard: yes. [15:19] randux: I had the same thing happen to me, not just after a fresh install though. The issue I had was rc.messagebus and rc.hald were empty, you may check that. [15:19] v3gard: while hal can do most the work, in the case it doesn't work xorg.conf can be used. [15:20] agentc0re: okey [15:20] thanks for the head's up [15:20] phoenix^: I tried turning HAL off after reading the hints but it didn't have any effect. Should I be using HAL for sure? [15:20] haven't read the entire changelog for slack 13 yet [15:21] phoenix^: hald and messagebus are both valid scripts [15:21] randux: That's up to you, but the cause if that issue for me was /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus and /etc/rc.d/rc.hald were empty. [15:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425673.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:22] deco (n=deco@69.108.68.96) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Zordrak: on a side note, i went from using slackware+mythtv for about 5 years [eventually got tired of keeping everything up to date, and essentially redoing everything with each version of mythtv], to opensuse+mythtv for 6 months [easier to maintain, but saw xbmc], to opensuse+xbmc/boxee for 2 months [wanted a good combination of boxee+xbmc] to now running plex on mac mini [15:24] Zordrak: in retrospective, i've wasted more time with mythtv and supporting apps [lirc, mplayer, alsa] than macmini would have cost me. and in the end, i'm very happy. same thing happened with few other coworkers of mine. [15:25] draeath (n=pbransfo@unaffiliated/draeath) left ##slackware. [15:25] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [15:26] 802.11n finally standardised. [15:26] I have definitely heard the same about the mac mini. /me wants but has $0 to spend on a drm. [15:26] eviljames: i don't see where drm is an issue. [15:27] i'm not playing any drm content, unless we count hulu [15:27] I'm still pissed about my ipod. [15:27] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] greetings and salutations [15:28] i refuse to buy any media (hardware or software) that is encumbered with drm [15:28] I don't want to have to jailbreak it to use something other than crapTunes to manage it. [15:29] now, a few other reasons why i found mac mini to be a better solution: it actually sleeps/wakes up properly. i had a hell of a time doing this with linux and nvidia. even its remote wakes it up. footprint/noise level are great, and the optical-out just works [15:29] ananke: one thing to know is that mac is not allowed in this ousehold [15:29] *h [15:29] again, there is no drm involved. [15:29] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Connection timed out [15:29] \DSAFEW\ (n=dsafew@74-37-132-69.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] my only out needs are speakers [15:30] Zordrak: yeah, i used to feel the same way, long time ago. these days i use what works :) [15:30] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] never gonna happen [15:30] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [15:31] out of curiosity, although that will probably open a can of worms, why? [15:31] eviljames: the solution was not to have an iCrap :) [15:31] Catoptro1ancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-131-57.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] eviljames: hi btw :P [15:31] ananke: control [15:31] ananke: control of mac costs [15:32] Zordrak: control is subjective. i find that for this purpose, i have the same amount control as i had with linux [and it actually works] [15:32] not sure what you mean by 'control of mac costs' [15:32] yeah, the mac mini is cheap for what it is. [15:32] staying in control costs money [15:33] i dont do money [15:33] money buys cat food [15:33] not toys [15:33] Camarade_Tux: indeed, but the ipod touch is pretty schnazzy. [15:33] Zordrak: i have no clue what you're talking about at this point [15:33] I've recently started supporting a few different clients who bought new Apple systems to replace their old PCs. I don't own any Apple gear of my own mainly because of the cost of the setups but I don't dislike the gear. I find that it is much more polished and seamless than *most* pc stuff. [15:33] eviljames: I decided not to give any money to apple some time ago, basically when I found out how closed everything apple was [15:34] I don't mind working on Apple gear at all [15:34] i do slack. [15:34] thats jus' how it is [15:34] OTOH, OSX is UNIX [15:34] i do winxp if i HAVE to [15:34] I'd rather use OSX than XP, by a long shot. [15:34] (ie GTA:IV) [15:34] eviljames: with crap on it [15:34] Zordrak: and i do linux, windows, osx, solaris, aix, and so on. i don't stick religiously to any of them :) [15:35] and I will never use any portable player that neeeds a specific software to put music on it [15:35] brbshowercuzistink [15:35] i dont use things that i know are expensive, inefficient or painful [15:35] which rules out mac and solaris instantly [15:36] Zordrak: 'inefficient' is a bs. efficiency is a net result of your time spent on it [15:36] macs are neither inefficient nor painful :D [15:36] yo fire|bird you there ? [15:36] deco: yup [15:36] phoenix^: hey , how are you ? [15:36] deco: great, thanks. you? [15:37] phoenix^: great , thanks [15:37] upyr[ema` (n=user@80.244.229.34) joined ##slackware. [15:37] phoenix^: where is the oxgen directory located ? in /source [15:37] Zordrak: i'm not trying to convince you to use a mac, i'm just sharing my experience on this subject. when it comes to 'painful' and 'inefficient', that's what linux media solutions became to me. [15:37] oxygen* [15:38] LawnJart (n=LawnJart@adsl-99-190-82-15.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:39] I'd use a Macbook Pro and I plan to buying one at some point in the future, but that will be alongside either a Dell latitude or Lenovo PC laptop [15:39] life would certainly be a lot easier with a mythv BobBuild [15:39] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/09/12/1413246/First-Botnet-of-Linux-Web-Servers-Discovered?from=rss [15:39] agentc0re: haha awesome [15:39] Zordrak: and lastly, when it comes to cost, i believe i've wasted way more time than i should have with mythtv. the cost of energy used to power those pcs i used for htpc was probably greater than the cost of this mac mini [it uses little energy, and it sleeps like a charm] [15:40] antiwire: i got my eyes set on lattitude z, after last week's dell showcase [15:40] antiwire: hehe, aint it? [15:40] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.52.81) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] deco: Well, in the kde directory there's an oxygen-icons directory and then the source tarball goes in src [15:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [15:41] ananke: I checked that out after you mentioned it and I'm going to wait for that too [15:41] when that unit is released I'll recompare it against the Lenova line [15:41] Lenovo* [15:42] phoenix^: i can't find the oxygen directory in /kde [15:42] artv61j (n=joliclou@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [15:43] deco: ok, then just make it, then you need a .SlackBuild for it and a slack-desc [15:43] Action: brbrbr warmly greet everyone [15:43] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Those who do not feel pain seldom think that it is felt." Dr. Samuel Johnson" [15:44] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.199.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:44] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:44] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/12/169205/First-Algae-Car-Attempts-To-Cross-the-US-On-25-Gallons-of-Fuel?from=rss LMAO [15:44] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:45] ironically enough, quite a few coworkers of mine, including sysadmins that work for me, wanted to hate macs. fast forward some time, and they all really like mac laptops and minis. i found that when it comes to macs, a lot of linux users hate them, often when they spent less than a few minutes using those [15:45] phoenix^: ok damm it :P [15:45] dude, i am totally going to invest in making an algae plant now. mass production!! [15:45] deco: lol [15:45] phoenix^: i suck at making slackbuilds lol [15:46] deco: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/source/kde/oxygen-icons/ [15:46] deco: then don't ^^^ [15:46] phoenix^: you are my hero :P [15:46] jekkt (n=jekkt@2001:6f8:1c4f:0:230:18ff:fea8:6c49) joined ##slackware. [15:47] upyr[ema` (n=user@80.244.229.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:47] hi , i adduser and he cannot do things like root can , how can i give him the same status like root? [15:47] ananke: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/using-13.0kde-4-in-an-htpc-753368/#post3673321 [15:47] Emanon (n=Emanon@c-67-183-42-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:48] "project has been far more challenging that I ever envisioned." [15:48] i can attest to that :) [15:48] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [15:49] xbmc looks promising [15:49] who can help me?:> [15:50] xbmc is neat. too bad it doesn't have plugins for hulu [15:50] and building it requires a lot of time [15:50] if it works, it'll do [15:50] jekkt: use sudo or su. [15:50] and people actualy have slackbuilds for it [15:50] ok anybody who has kb/mouse problems in Slack 13 with Intel G33 chipset, [15:50] leave HAL running *and* add the lines from CHANGES_AND_HINTS to your xorg.conf [15:51] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:51] phoenix^: it as all the packages already :O [15:51] has* [15:51] Zordrak: seriously though, i am disappointed that mythtv hasn't progressed much over the years [15:51] me too [15:51] it was very promising [15:51] guess they got bored [15:51] deco: on that site you mean? yeah, those are 64bit packages though. :) You can't use those on 32bit [15:52] phoenix^: damn it lol too good to be true :P [15:53] very likely. and especially after moving to hdtv, i realized how nice and useful htpc can look like, mythtv looks like a drag [15:53] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] im one of those people who generally doesnt give a toss about form so long as function is god [15:54] *good [15:54] ananke: i use to help out with LMCE, but i think it still has quite a long way to go. [15:54] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] ananke: but it has some really great idea's and a awesome interface that overlays on your tv instead of interrupting what your watching to go to a menu. [15:56] dimm0k (n=nmok@71.183.187.43) joined ##slackware. [15:56] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] agentc0re: now that's nice [15:57] agentc0re: question is.. can it be ported to slack? :) [15:57] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:58] I've got sata laptop drives flowing out my ears now [15:58] phoenix^: deco : sorry, i started to compile 32bit, and having gotten caught up in work [15:58] antiwire: Ow! [15:58] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-198-135.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Reconnecting" [15:58] hey, in the howto on slackbuilds.org, it says to extract the script somewhere and follows with a link for those wanting anonymous ftp [15:58] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-198-135.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.214.199) joined ##slackware. [15:58] so, how do you download the whole directory? [15:58] phoenix^: he doesn't have the kdelibs experimental package thingy [15:58] as to function over the form, i like to think tht form is part of the function. well done interface, that shows me the information i want, in a clean manner, attributes to functionality [15:58] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [15:59] <|alisonken1churc> flame_me: use sbopkg [15:59] deco: the experimental thing is the libknotificationitem-4.3.1.1018542 [15:59] vbatts: No problem. I have 4.3.0 on my desktop, built that myself, and am using your 64bit packages on my laptop and it's working excellent. [16:00] flame_me, with an ftp client perhaps? [16:00] vbatts: ahhhh ok thank! :D [16:00] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] sbopkg - is it part of slackware? [16:00] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) left ##slackware. [16:00] I just rsync against the SBo repo version I want [16:00] flame_me: no [16:00] <|alisonken1churc> no - but it' [16:00] yes, but I don't know their names dive [16:00] flame_me: but you can get it at www.sbopkg.org [16:00] <|alisonken1churc> no - but it's written similar in style to slackware package manager [16:01] flame_me: sbopkg is not official [16:01] vbatts: any reason you are not using the official kdelibs-experimental source tarball? [16:01] Nick change: Camarade_Tux -> Bored_Tux [16:01] aldcor (i=500@ip-127-221.zb.lv) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:03] pprkut: the #1 reason is because it is experimental and may break things, the other reason is because you may need to update other components to meet it's dependencies [16:04] pprkut: hmm, well it was not on rsync.kde.org::kdeftp/stable/4.3.1/src/ when they released it, and only a blog entry of a kde dev, elluded to it being available in svn [16:04] is see it out there now [16:05] mfillpot: erm...wrong [16:05] ananke: can you get at the attachment on that link? [16:05] the tgz.txt [16:06] do entries in fstab override the default mounting of plugged drives to in /media? [16:06] vbatts: ok. well, it's nothing special as it contains only libknotificationitem [16:06] to points in /media ** [16:06] antiwire: fstab will always be obeyed [16:06] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: plug in fstab and see what happens [16:06] pprkut: why is it wrong experimental usually means alpha which has not fully passed all tests [16:06] antiwire: read /mnt/README [16:07] antiwire: and /media/README [16:07] vbatts: also I found a few other possible issues you might want to look at, if you are interested :) [16:07] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] doh [16:08] mfillpot: well first, because 'experimental' in this case means 'non-api stable' and not 'buggy' [16:08] I'm ssh'ed on a box and I would like to display a graphical message to the user sitting in front of the box, how can I do that? [16:08] mfillpot: and second, a lot of core kde 4.3.1 packages actually require it [16:08] You're bored and fscking with your users [16:08] gg [16:08] lol @ thuner-thumbnailers [16:08] "configure: error: Install tetex before enabling latex thumbnailing" [16:08] ^^ [16:09] antiwire: nah, I'm setting a computer for somebody [16:09] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:10] well, earlier today I issued: "touch Desktop/AsianGayPorn.avi"... [16:10] The new disk I installed for my laptop is rocking. I get better VM disk IO performance now and my gigabit network transfers again an average of 5MB/s [16:10] freaking cool. [16:11] Bored_Tux: there is xmessage but it is quite ugly [16:11] Lord_Khelben: gonna try it ;) [16:11] will your ssh be able to access its display ? [16:11] i think xauth will error [16:12] Lord_Khelben: if DISPLAY doesn't make it, I don't know [16:12] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [16:14] hmmm [16:14] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-101-80.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Bored_Tux, if you have root to the machine in question, the su to the user currently running the X session and type "DISPLAY=:0; xhost +" then you should be able to display to :0 [16:15] wow, on *this* machine, xmessage took 10s to process [16:15] :o [16:15] Bored_Tux: on mine too [16:15] that's... [16:16] i tried it to see if it works before i write it here and the first time i thought it crashed and ctrl+c it [16:16] and takes quite a lot of cpu too [16:17] pprkut: fixed, find kdelibs-experimental out there and libknotificationitem gone [16:17] Bored_Tux: its because of the opengl fancy windows/texts it uses :P [16:17] Lord_Khelben: yeah, same when I tried here [16:17] pprkut: what are the other issues? [16:17] do you want to email me them? [16:17] Lord_Khelben: hahaha :P [16:18] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:18] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [16:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-67-124-90-47.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@82.155.221.212) joined ##slackware. [16:19] vbatts: mm, probably better by email yes. It's just a few minor things that are not that obvious if you don't look for them ;) [16:19] if you're still talking about 4.3.1 i am interested in its issues too. i haven't seen any for the little time i use it but it doesn't hurt to know [16:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:20] (if am not intruding your conversation that is) [16:20] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas" [16:21] I think I didn't have to do anything beside DISPLAY=:0 [16:21] basically xmessage returned so I think the luser clicked "okay" :) [16:21] yep, working :) [16:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:21] Bored_Tux, a prettier way is kdialog [16:22] i guess kde would have something similar too [16:22] kdialog --msgbox "your message" [16:22] anyone missing graphics in pidgin after updating to slackware 13.0? [16:22] ah ArTourter got to it first :) [16:22] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] ArTourter: kde not installed, it's a netbook and I was in a hurry when installing, installing kde would have taken too much time :p [16:22] kde always has a pretty replacement for xorg stuff [16:22] although I'm reconsidering in light of their plasma for netbook project [16:22] I tried gm but got nothing ;) [16:26] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] dive; new version of gst-plugins-bad has been released. farsight2 relies on a plugin from that, i wonder if things have improved. should look into it later. [16:27] dive: also 2.6.2 pidgin has been released if you didn't notice already. [16:28] pidgin supports farsight ? [16:28] Lord_Khelben: it needs it for Video/voice. [16:29] ah ok. i didn't know pidgin supported audio. i thought only amsn did [16:29] it supports webcam too ? [16:29] agentc0re, ok i will look into it laters [16:29] Lord_Khelben: yeah [16:29] ut atm [16:29] agentc0re: i'm using 2.6.2... however the graphics are still missing and i have no idea why [16:30] dimm0k: I'm using 2.6.2, everything is fine here with it. [16:30] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Lord_Khelben: yup, since, 2.6.1. if you are interested in it check out dive's site and grab the SBo's he's made. Not sure if he's submitted them to sbo yet.http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/12.2/pidgin-2.6.1/ [16:30] phoenix^: slackware 13.0 upgraded from 12.2 as well? [16:30] dimm0k: i asked ya to try a bunch of things.. you never responded and quit. did you ever see them? [16:30] ok i will try it. i try pidgin from time to time but always abandon it :P i never managed to like it [16:30] dimm0k: that's how i upgraded. [16:31] dimm0k: no [16:31] also, I'm looking for a "spider solitaire" on slackware, any one? [16:31] Lord_Khelben: It's getting more support in it for themes too. [16:31] agentc0re: can you please list what you suggested again? [16:32] dimm0k: create a test user and see if it's screwed up under the test user as well. [16:32] Klondike [16:32] dimm0k: and how did you upgrade from 12.2 to 13.0? [16:32] Bored_Tux: kpat (kpatience) has spider solitaire among other games [16:32] hmmm, there's the on in kde but no kde there =/ [16:33] oh crap ! [16:33] "I haven't found a Linux version of Spider Solitaire card game that I like better than the Windows version. I run Spider Solitaire under wine ..." [16:33] from ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517296 [16:33] agentc0re: ahh, definitely didn't see that suggestion or think to try it! lemme see [16:33] Bored_Tux: http://www.fallingsandgame.com/sand/pyro.html [16:34] agentc0re: ah, it's flash, it's why I don't see anything? :D [16:35] Bored_Tux: lol [16:35] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap ..... :)" [16:35] Bored_Tux: it's fun but ya, flash non the less. [16:35] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] agentc0re: gonna reenable flash ;) [16:38] errr, SDL_perl compiles as "cc -c -ggdb -" [16:38] -ggdb ! doh ! [16:39] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:40] agentc0re: doesn't load [16:41] Bored_Tux: Then you're doing something wrong :P [16:41] Bored_Tux: http://fallingsandgame.com/sand/index.html ? do you have java enabled too? this one is java, versus flash. [16:42] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [16:42] java disabled too :D [16:42] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:42] agentc0re: java+flash, what kind of websites are you visiting? :P [16:43] Bored_Tux: Cool ones, with bot-nets [16:45] Open Hyperterminal and connect to the modem with these settings: [16:45] Hyperterminal Configuration Settings [16:45] 115200 – Bits per second [16:45] Channel flood from flame_me -- kicking [16:45] 8 – Data bits [16:45] None – Parity [16:45] flame_me kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:45] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:45] sorry [16:45] anyway, wtf does that mean? [16:45] one line at a time [16:45] what's hyperterminal? [16:45] lol [16:45] what are you doing? [16:46] following this: http://www.matt-barrett.com/2008/11/telstra-pre-paid-wireless-broadband-ubuntu/ [16:46] or better put, trying to do? [16:46] it means 'open hyperterminal' [16:46] to get my Rogers MF636 usb modem to work on Slackware [16:46] flame_me: use minicom or screen on linux [16:46] flame_me: did you read the very first, number 1 instruction? [16:47] yes, and I'm on a vista machine now and there's no such thing as a hyperterminal [16:47] "When you first plug the modem into a Windows computer" [16:47] agentc0re: ok, you just got me waste ten minutes ;p [16:48] Bored_Tux: Hehe, isn't it fun? if you feed that ball thing water it can get huge and destroy everything you made. [16:48] Bored_Tux: it's fun. [16:48] yeah, who bothers to read instructions these days :) [16:48] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [16:48] lol [16:48] agentc0re: yeah, and then sale [16:48] *salt [16:48] or pour oil all over it then add fire. [16:48] and while it's huge it'll roll around on fire. [16:49] flame_me: if there is no such thing as hyperterminal in vista they what did the "Hyperterminal Configuration Settings" line come from? [16:49] i think i wasted a couple of hours once at work playing that. [16:49] oh nice, I can beep on that remote computer :) [16:49] agentc0re: oh :) [16:50] mfillpot: I don't know, I can't ask the author [16:53] flame_me: how is your modem connected to the system? [16:55] usb port [16:56] flame_me: did anything populate in dmesg when you plugged it in? [16:56] pass the ice creamz [16:56] dmesg? I'm on vista [16:56] I thought you were trying to connect it in slackware? [16:57] http://www.matt-barrett.com/2008/11/telstra-pre-paid-wireless-broadband-ubuntu/ see step 1 [16:57] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-98.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [16:58] "Connect to that COM port through Hyperterminal, found in the Accessories area of the Start Menu." [16:58] I checked and doublechecked, no such thing under Accessories [16:59] flame_me: I hate vista and winblows for that fact, so I can't tell you what is there. [17:00] haha why don't you ask in #windows or something? [17:00] flame_me: by chance did you try to search google for "vista hyperterminal" to find an alternative, or did you just come in here with windows questions and no research? [17:00] agentc0re: yes, i upgraded from 12.2 to 13.0 [17:00] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Hyperterminal used to be something in XP, and iirc previous versions. I've never used Vista though. [17:01] y0 antler [17:01] agentc0re: created a new user and started kde fine... pidgin was also fine!! [17:01] "HyperTerminal is no longer part of Windows." fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [17:01] all, let flame_me answer this because it is obvious he didn't adequate research it before coming here [17:01] agentc0re: so question now is, what the fsck is in my home directory that's fscking things up? [17:01] hey phoenix^ :D how's it going? [17:01] antler: excellent, thanks. you? [17:02] agentc0re: i've removed .kde, .local, .config [17:02] very well, thanks :D [17:02] dimm0k: you backed them up first, right? Did you have anything important there? settings, e-mail? etc. [17:02] agentc0re, the gst plugins need to be installed after gstreamer, so you shouldn't need recompile gstreamer, just compile/install the plugin. Making a build for it now. [17:03] phoenix^: well i didnt necessarily remove them... i renamed them... .kdeold, .localold, and .configold [17:03] yo antler :) [17:03] flame_me: what are you going to do next? [17:03] Nick change: antler -> firebird619 [17:03] dimm0k: ok, just checking. :P [17:03] hehe [17:03] firebird619: you won't last long there. :P [17:03] walk upside down in handstand position [17:04] Nick change: firebird619 -> antler [17:04] Action: antler plucks phoenix^ 's feathers [17:04] antler: you'd have ended up as Guest#### [17:04] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] there's something in my folder that's messing kde and pidgin up... but what else can it be if not for those three folders?! [17:04] in 30 seconds [17:04] fire|bird: ghost him ! [17:04] Bored_Tux: can't, he switched back. :P [17:04] hi Bored_Tux :) [17:04] phoenix^: nah, I was telling antler to ;) [17:04] dimm0k: what is messed up in KDE? I thought it was just pidgin? [17:05] Bored_Tux: Ah, so tab completion FAIL. :) [17:05] it's "pidgeon" [17:05] phoenix^: argh, no, /me fail [17:05] phoenix^: ;) [17:05] Bored_Tux: He'd need my password anyway, which he doesn't have and won't get. :P [17:06] flame_me: do some more research into a viable alternative to hyperterminal in vista, replace the gnome-ppp with kppp and follow the guide, it isn't as hard as you are making it, just do some research [17:06] phoenix^: I thought *you* were as "antler" ;) [17:06] antler: pigeon ? ;) [17:06] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:06] Bored_Tux: haha, nope. :P [17:06] Bored_Tux: that too :) [17:06] mfillpot: thanks [17:06] lol ^^ [17:06] Bored_Tux: Why in the world would I want to be antler? :P [17:07] I can access my friend's webcam :D [17:07] :O, see anything interesting. :P [17:07] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:07] phoenix^: because you feel like dressing like a woman :) [17:07] tuvok302_ (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] huh? [17:07] phoenix^: I probably could :D [17:07] lol [17:07] Nick change: tuvok302_ -> tuvok302 [17:07] antler: :D [17:07] tuvok302: you're a weird vulcan [17:07] antler: Yeah, that's right, he called you a woman, now what are you going to do about it? :P [17:08] nothing 'cause he's a girly :P [17:08] Bored_Tux: Why don't you hug him then. :P [17:08] Nick change: antler -> fire|birds [17:08] haha [17:08] phoenix^: I only hug boys :) [17:08] OHGODWHY? [17:08] flame_me: do research before asking questions, or you will be flamed [17:09] Action: Quiznos lights a stick and plants it on flame_me [17:09] Nick change: fire|birds -> ^phoenix^ [17:09] OH LORD [17:09] phoenix^: well nothing major with kde... but when i start up kde akonadi complains the first time i start it in kde... but under the test user account, it doesn't [17:09] Shingoshi (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] Nick change: ^phoenix^ -> phoenix^^ [17:10] phoenix^: :) [17:10] antler's on a nick changing rampage. [17:10] Nobody has beat my record yet though. :D [17:10] antler's on a nick changing rampage. [17:10] Nobody has beat my record yet though. :D [17:10] other than .kde, .local, and .config, what else does kde leave behind? i want to start as fresh as possible [17:11] Nick change: phoenix^^ -> antler [17:11] ;) [17:11] antler: Did you have fun? [17:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewjFc3oT3s <- from 1:30 [17:11] antler: Yes. Your right. I am an odd one :p [17:11] phoenix^: gobs of fun [17:12] antler: I hold the record for most nick changes (93) friggen beat that. :D [17:12] phoenix^: why so many times? [17:12] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:12] identity crisis? [17:13] antler: That's over the course of a few months. :P [17:13] hey twolf [17:13] haha [17:13] hey phoenix^ [17:13] no, I don't think it was a crisis, it was controlled. :P [17:13] phoenix^: that's over the course of a lifetime for us common folk. why so many? [17:14] antler: That includes the times I haven't identified in time too, so that added up, but otherwise I have 4 nicks registered/grouped :P [17:14] firedix (n=firedix@host245.201-252-162.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:14] and, others that I switched to for fun (during a conversation) for a few minutes. :P [17:14] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] phoenix^: firedicks just left. you can go back to being fire|bird [17:15] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [17:15] agentc0re, I think gst-plugins-good has a new version too, so I will check the other plugings [17:15] antler: I already am :) [17:15] Does anyone know how to get a laptop to recognize, without X, that it's on AC/battery power and adjust the screen brightness accordingly? [17:15] fire|bird: hahaha [17:15] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [17:15] kevin01123: you better have X on a laptop, outside of X you'll lose battery life [17:15] you see, I'm on pidgin and irssi at the same time atm. :) Get with the program man. :P [17:16] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Bored_Tux: Isn't there a way to do this though? I mean, without a power management application? [17:16] pidgin's for pansies. pansy. [17:16] like: don't bother adjusting the brightness, that's not where you can get more battery life [17:16] antler: What do you use? Mr. Girly Man? [17:16] Bored_Tux: What do you mean? [17:17] phoenix^: my own little program. output to the display is rerouted to my dot matrix printer. [17:17] he's half girl, half man, all paradox. [17:17] antler: hahaha, that must have a heck of a lag. :P [17:17] antler: Not to mention all the trees you're wasting. [17:17] kevin01123: if you want to save battery life, the first thing is to get a good graphic driver in X that can do power management [17:17] yesyes: hahah what movie / song was that from? [17:17] Alan_Hicks: I just watched your SELF video. *excellent* job, I just wish I had the slides too. :P [17:18] (or one with KMS and power management but you're unlikely to get that before a few years) [17:18] Nick change: Bored_Tux -> Camarade_Tux [17:18] AHHHH, everybody run, it's chopp [17:18] oh it's you Camarade_Tux :D [17:18] antler: haha, you didn't know that? [17:18] no [17:18] antler: nah, I'm eviljames :) [17:18] haha.....good plan with the mood my ex has got me in. ;) [17:18] Action: phoenix^ hits antler with a clue bat. [17:18] chopp: uh oh. :P [17:19] is it just me or is MPlayer over-hyped? [17:19] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Connection timed out [17:19] Camarade_Tux: You are talking about xf86-video-*, correct? [17:19] never works properly for me [17:19] Todays reason: Unsupported PixelFormat -1 [17:19] smplayer's nice mplayer is butt ugly. either works well here. [17:20] i thought vlc plays m2ts files, but not here. [17:20] kevin01123: which graphic card do you have? [17:20] dive: those two were the only ones i noticed that updated. [17:20] dimm0k: figure it out yet? [17:20] agentc0re, ok [17:21] agentc0re, I'm going to put txz support in the builds too [17:21] Camarade_Tux: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset, using the xf86-vide-intel driver. [17:21] vlc now playing the DVD that MPlayer wontr [17:21] mplayer sucks a bit for dvd menus [17:22] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.202.69.135) joined ##slackware. [17:22] dimm0k: i would try .config .cache .kde .local and .purple, rename them all to $whatever-bak or something. [17:22] kevin01123: so yeah, xf86-video-intel [17:22] dimm0k: i would do one at a time so you know which one fixed it. [17:23] kevin01123: check with powertop that X gives more battery life (available on slackbuilds.org) [17:23] agentc0re: He tried .config .local and .kde from what I understand, still the same issues. [17:23] Camarade_Tux: Okay. [17:23] heh make a new user. test. [17:23] dive: cool. i'll check back with ya later on that. I've been working on a build script for the whole shebang. i could probably share that with you and work on improvements. [17:23] Camarade_Tux: MPlayer has never worked proerly for any task ive given it on any box anywhere ever [17:23] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:23] dimm0k: What exactly do you mean by messed up icons (I'm curious) they are all gone or? [17:23] hence the claim its over-hyped [17:24] huh? [17:24] agentc0re: i've renamed .kde, .config, .purple, and .local... .cache i've simply removed [17:24] antler: he did, and that fixed it, but now he's trying to figure out what's causing the issue. [17:24] agentc0re, mega.SlackBuild? [17:24] Zordrak: what tasks? cleaning lavatories? It's bad at that, but pretty good at playing media files... [17:24] dimm0k: well start renaming other . folders/files until you find the one. :P [17:24] phoenix^: they wont show up... all i get is a white square with a red x in the middle [17:24] phoenix^: forget the cause. create new user. move contents from old user to new user home. [17:24] Not to mention the UI looks like Cyberlink PowerDVD [17:24] dimm0k: that's a bad idea... you could grep for pidgin [17:24] echtts (n=echtts@189-46-209-239.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:25] agentc0re: *sigh* i was hoping not to do that [17:25] agentc0re, may work, but what if one plugin package gets updated? Don't want/need to update the lot [17:25] dive: ya, pretty much. [17:25] dimm0k: you could try "strace pidgin &> strace.out", then "grep png strace.out", to see where it's *trying* to find those png files [17:25] dive: that's what it needs work with. to beable to say what to build and/or where to start from. [17:25] dimm0k: ok, so that's a matter of icons missing, which may not be fixed by renaming, etc. stuff in your home directory. [17:25] Zordrak: very strange. I've used mplayer for a long long time, and have yet had it fail on me. I *do* however rebuild the slackbuild for a decent theme. [17:26] and .purple, rename them all to $whatever-bak or something. [17:26] 15:22 < Camarade_Tux> kevin01123: so yeah, xf86-video-intel [17:26] [and .purple, rename them all to $whatever-bak or something.D [17:26] Channel flood from antler -- kicking [17:26] 15:22 < Camarade_Tux> kevin01123: so yeah, xf86-video-intel [17:26] antler kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:26] dive: http://pastebin.com/d14a3701f [17:26] heh cool.. freenx spits sound out the primary audio device .. i didnt expect that [17:26] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [17:26] lol [17:26] dimm0k: how long have you been asking about those missing icons? I know it's been a few hours since I first saw someone reply to you lol [17:26] well the thing is, if i create a new user and start up kde there along with pidgin, the icons load fine [17:26] good work antler [17:26] wonder if i can get it to control the :0 device [17:26] ok. can't radomnly click my mid mouse button :D [17:26] quasar: getting closer!! [17:27] so something in my home directory is screwing things up... [17:27] dimm0k: if you strace pigdin, you will also be able to tell which config file(s) it's loading, which narrows down your search for the cause [17:27] dimm0k: Try as Urchlay suggested, see where it's trying to find the icons. [17:27] Action: quasar goes back to playing Satch Boogie [17:27] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] hrmm, ok, i'll give that a shot [17:27] dimm0k: it might be a global config file, did you check for files ending in .new when upgrading? [17:28] yep... took care of all the .new files [17:28] dimm0k: you can also go to ~/ and do grep pidgin . -rl and/or grep purple . -rl [17:28] lemme give that a shot [17:28] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.202.69.135) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [17:29] agentc0re, you can lose the 'cd $CWD' by putting the preceding lines in ( ) [17:29] dimm0k (n=nmok@71.183.187.43) left irc: "brb" [17:29] Zordrak: mplayer has always worked great for me ;) [17:29] i.e. ( cd GSTREAMER; bla; bla ) [17:29] dive: Oh, coolness. so making everything a function then, right? [17:30] i like smplayer.. (just installed) [17:30] agentc0re, not a function, ( ) make a subthread [17:30] all i need now is for it to be actually able to PLAY dvds [17:30] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.50.95) joined ##slackware. [17:30] dive: OIC. gotcha. [17:30] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:30] agentc0re, one sec I'll paste a bit [17:30] lol [17:30] plays in smplayer [17:30] wtf is up with that? [17:31] I prefer smplayer as well [17:31] agentc0re, http://pastebin.com/d26643853 check the gstreamer bit [17:31] dive: i think i want to add a couple of if statements so that if you choose to start at plugin's good, it'll ask if you want to build anything else along with it but then continue to build were the next program in the list requires good or whatnot. [17:31] but.. doesnt it *use* MPlayer? [17:31] hm, plain old mplayer has always worked great for me, too [17:31] agentc0re, yeah that would be good [17:31] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] I never bother building mplayer's gui (gmplayer), so themes are irrelevant to me [17:32] Zordrak: something funky in ~/.mplayer ? [17:32] gmplayer isn't great [17:32] chopp: Yeah, I don't know what happened to the slides, but you can read the txt file at http://www.lizella.net/networking_101.txt [17:32] agentc0re, perhaps use curl to check the latest versions or something [17:33] Alan_Hicks: awsome, thanks. [17:33] ivan_ (n=ivan@190.148.119.74) joined ##slackware. [17:33] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0465.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Alan_Hicks: I have read it before, but forgot where it was located. [17:33] dive: Im heading out, but if you are around later we could work on it and figure out whats the best way. Oh, curl. That's a good idea. Maybe give the option to either use the default or have it look for updated sources. [17:33] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] Camarade_Tux: actually if I were going to use the UI for a media player, I'd sooner use xine [17:34] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] chopp: this was the first time i started it on this box] [17:34] but really, "mplayer file.avi" and pressing arrow keys to skip around, Q to quit, is all I need [17:34] so id doubt it [17:34] dive: cuz i could see that being a bit of a problem if you always are going to go for new but it only works on .24 or something. Kind of like how it was with 2.6.1 pidgin. [17:34] agentc0re, yeah something like that. Might need to just ceck existence of the latest version using curl or lynx or something. [17:34] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Urchlay: *WHAT*? [17:34] FYI.. this media centre box is in the bedroom and will be often handled by the missus [17:35] Zordrak: are you the "media centre box"? some weird way of third person referencing? :P [17:35] Zordrak: so try a different vo device maybe? [17:36] Zordrak: you may want to try VLC [17:37] I don't like vlc but I have to say that if you want to play DVDs it's your best choice [17:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.253.199) joined ##slackware. [17:37] jesus christ, joe is a stupid editor [17:38] alienBOB: i usually default to vlc.. just occasioannly dip my hand into MPlayer to see if it still blows [17:38] alienBOB: smplayer is actually looking pretty good [17:38] I like mplayer, it's easy to use: f, {space}, up, down, left, right, ... [17:38] q [17:38] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0465.bb.online.no) left irc: "Leaving" [17:38] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [17:39] wtf [17:39] smplayer keeps turning the subtitles on(!) [17:39] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [17:40] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] I hate MPlayer. Software with upper-case letters just don't deserve any interest fro me :p [17:42] <|alisonken1churc> so, I take it OOo is out? :) [17:42] Slackware has a capital s ._. [17:42] hobin (n=nazemi@94.125.216.34) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceweasel 3.0.14/2009091010]" [17:43] <|alisonken1churc> Slackware is not software - it's an institution [17:43] not always true [17:43] and what about GNU :-' [17:43] slackware is a church. [17:43] |alisonken1churc: I see, what distro was pkgtool written for then? [17:43] anyone know if freenx can duplicate screen 0 [17:43] ? [17:43] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-186-55.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] <|alisonken1churc> quasar: pkgtool is software - Slackware is an institution :) [17:44] <|alisonken1churc> and Pat is Head-of-State [17:45] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-23.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:45] Cheeky sons of bitches.. MS has relegated google to page 2 of its IE8 search providers list [17:46] If slackware is so pure, how to explain that I am unable to switch to another distro? There's more than just software in it :) [17:46] Zordrak: makes me wonder how many of Google's products advertise Bing [17:46] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] xbmc has truly been compiling forever :) hope it's worth it [17:47] I keep thinking of Bling whenever I see that name [17:47] Zordrak: is it C++? [17:47] appzer0: beedy blah bee biggidy gee. [17:47] Action: dive thinks of all the chavs [17:48] Camarade_Tux: what's so horrible about xine? I prefer mplayer, but xine isn't total crap IMO [17:48] Camarade_Tux: *shrug* currnt section is c [17:48] Zordrak: must already compile much faster :P [17:48] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] antler: you mean my english's bad? [17:49] <|alisonken1churc> appzer0: that's why Slackware is an institution - once you're into it, you can't switch [17:49] Urchlay: I've always found it annoying and unhandy [17:49] appzer0: no, not at all [17:49] but I'm maybe too used to right/left and friends to navigate in files [17:49] <|alisonken1churc> just like the old commercial (for those old timers) 'I'd rather fight than switch!" [17:50] Camarade_Tux: no GUI is comfortable to me anyway, I was too old when I first used a GUI apparently [17:50] <|alisonken1churc> well, I remember cli - and will work with either one [17:50] heh; same here; i started in dos. there's no moose there [17:51] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl15-170.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:51] Urchlay: I wasn't too old but mice are annoying ;) [17:51] <|alisonken1churc> Logitech Tracman for me :) [17:51] lol; i feel so comfortable here; mooseless territory [17:51] <|alisonken1churc> I like the thumball [17:52] i do want a belly up moose tho [17:52] the wireless is nice but i still have to move a hand [17:52] <|alisonken1churc> I remember visiting a farm that my grandfather was keeping bees on - moosemeat pancakes for breakfast. Not bad. [17:52] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] non sequitor [17:52] <|alisonken1churc> haven't read that comic in a while :) [17:53] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:53] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [17:53] what's moosemeat taste like? [17:53] <|alisonken1churc> gamey [17:53] beef? horse? [17:54] <|alisonken1churc> but not bad [17:54] oh [17:54] <|alisonken1churc> haven't tried horse, though - my first wife was into horses as pets [17:54] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "going to set my firewall on fire" [17:55] you can buy buffalo (north american bison) at most any store here [17:55] i think i've tried buffalo. buffalo burgers [17:56] yeah, its like beef only leaner, just a tiny bit gamey sometimes depending on how its cooked [17:57] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] smash it first [17:57] <|alisonken1churc> like cubed beef - requires mucho hammering [17:58] it's exercise [17:58] i can here Pig_Pen [17:58] i think walmart has it [17:58] or maybe i'm thinking of lamb [17:59] they discount their meat wthe day before stamped date [17:59] so i get it occas.ly [18:00] LawnJart (n=LawnJart@adsl-99-190-82-15.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] damn, DaisyFuentes in a little black dress [18:05] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [18:05] with a slit upto here [18:05] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [18:07] <|alisonken1churc> is it "up to here" or "up to ...." :) [18:07] ahem; i'm not tellin [18:07] :) [18:07] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Client Quit [18:08] Quiznos, pics or it didn't happen [18:08] on tv [18:08] old home vids show [18:08] beofre Bergeron now [18:09] the previous incarnation [18:09] incantation? [18:09] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:09] version [18:09] heh [18:09] AFV show [18:09] Quiznos, actually don't bother I've just seen her face [18:09] damn; that slit goes always up [18:09] phew [18:10] LawnJart (n=LawnJart@adsl-99-190-82-15.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] i think she looks better as a girl next door; rather than all dolled up [18:10] but then the episode is from the early to mid 90s lol [18:11] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.25) left irc: [18:11] <|alisonken1churc> about the 7th hit for 'Daisy Fuentes' on google returns a link to :)askmen.com [18:12] oh yea [18:12] [drool] [18:12] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [18:12] i cant write what i want; [18:12] self-censoring [18:12] lol [18:12] rofl [18:12] josteint (n=josteint@84.215.36.243) joined ##slackware. [18:12] phoenix^: fire|bird i got his error when running KDE.SlackBuild http://pastebin.com/m2670ae1f [18:13] this error* [18:13] <|alisonken1churc> in my case, it's "wife censored" :) [18:13] even better [18:13] i'm not that prepared yet [18:13] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:13] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [18:14] guten abend [18:14] deco: Ah, yeah. I removed the line from the slackbuild that uses that patch (maybe not the right way to do it, but that's what I did) [18:14] guten tag [18:14] broot force ist gootly [18:15] phoenix^: ok gonna try to remove it than :P [18:16] deco: you ready for those slackbuilds that I was telling you about yet? :p [18:16] |alisonken1churc DaisyFuentes, Leelee Sobieski; the girls from _Rowan & Martin's Laf-in_, RaquelWelch and maybe a handful of others make me swoon [18:16] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:17] deco: same site has packages if you'd rather just use them (I know of one person who has and from what I could tell hasn't had any problems with them) [18:17] |alisonken1churc CherylTiegs in fishnet swim suit [18:17] quasar: which ones ? i forget already haven't had much sleep this week :P [18:17] quasar: He can't use the packages, they are 32bit :P [18:17] i use 32bit :P [18:17] err, 64bit, he's using 32bit [18:17] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] deco: :P [18:18] phoenix^: i forgive you :P [18:18] Action: antler is still on 12.2 [18:18] me too [18:18] antler: Why the heck for? :P [18:18] phoenix^: which line do i need to remove exactly ? 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[18:19] then use the slackbuilds on that same site [18:19] hi there [18:20] quasar: ok ill give it a try :D [18:20] quasar: ill just copy kde.slackbuild from there [18:20] deco: Hmm, I'm not seeing that line in the slackbuild now. :P [18:21] phoenix^: damn it :P [18:21] I know. :P [18:21] phoenix^: im gonna try the script from that site [18:21] deco: ok :) [18:22] jekkt (n=jekkt@2001:6f8:1c4f:0:230:18ff:fea8:6c49) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:23] he's already done akonadi, soprano and phonon (x32) if you want to use those and skip ahead to just doing KDE (they're at http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/i686/ ) [18:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:24] phoenix^: failed again :P [18:24] deco: haha [18:24] which one is running that you get that error from? [18:25] phoenix^: KDE.SlackBuild [18:25] quasar: i already have those [18:25] didn't you get yours from an official mirror? [18:26] deco: Each kde component has a separate slackbuild for it, KDE.SlackBuild goes through and runs each of those separately. :P [18:26] if so, you're using the 4.2.4 slackbuilds and NOT the 4.3.* slackbuilds [18:26] since the 4.3.* slackbuilds dont -officially- exist [18:26] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-21.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] quasar: iused the 4.2 builds just modified KDE.options [18:27] and before you ask, no they're not the same.. pretty close, but no cigar [18:27] damn, i need to google Daisy [18:27] phoenix^: didn't you use the 4.2 scripts ? [18:27] google Daisy? what the heck is that? [18:27] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] deco: yes, I did. :P [18:28] DaisyFuentes; a seriously beautiful woman [18:28] quasar: see :P ^ [18:28] but it seems you're having issues that I didn't have. :P [18:28] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] phoenix^ wernt you reading above tween me and Ken? [18:28] phoenix^: birds have all the luck :P [18:28] PAY ATTN!!! [18:28] heh [18:28] deco: Just take time to READ the scripts and maybe get a better idea of what KDE.SlackBuild is actually doing. :P [18:28] Quiznos: nope, I sure wasn't :P [18:28] deco: there is a little modification that has to be done, not a lot.. but a little bit.. and from what I've seen it's above your pay grade.. [18:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:29] phoenix^ googl her. [18:29] pics [18:29] Quiznos: I know who she is and what she looks like. :P [18:29] oh then wth :) [18:29] quasar: fire|bird yeah it is too much for me i guess.... [18:29] deco: It's seeming that way (no offense) :P [18:29] Quiznos: haha [18:30] :) [18:30] Action: deco is just learning to program :P [18:30] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] Quiznos: have you done a clean install yet, or will you be running 12.2 from here on in? [18:30] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [18:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [18:31] chopp i need to be productive, so i'll be on 12.2 for a while. [18:31] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] chopp but i'll be watching Changelog for hal* updates [18:31] that means no to the clean install part [18:31] antiwire: haha, guess so yup. [18:31] 13's hald didnt list anything of my hw; 12.2/hald has all of it. [18:32] Labstract3D (n=chatzill@samos-hlab02.aegean.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:32] but you upgraded the Quiznos way (TM) [18:32] lol [18:32] mao [18:32] I remember that night [18:32] quasar: if i copy the source directors from that site like i did with the offical repository , you think it will work ? [18:33] hey, wth not say "hey, (deep voice) Quiznos found a bug" [18:33] lol [18:33] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] deep doppie voice [18:33] lol [18:33] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [18:33] deco: it should, as long as you tell it to do 32bit builds instead of x64 .. I didn't have to change anything anyway [18:34] http://aphrodite.explainthisimage.com/content/735/resized/unxplained-photo-1233641505-34047.jpg?1236411037 [18:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.214.199) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.139) joined ##slackware. [18:34] quasar: ok than ill just give that a try :) [18:34] you should and will congratulate me for finding a bug [18:34] Action: Quiznos stands proodly [18:34] chest out high [18:34] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [18:35] antiwire: Wow, one of the Star Wars people got loose. :P [18:36] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@wc4zo1he33.adsl.datanet.hu) joined ##slackware. [18:40] antiwire: look at the front wheel, that thing inside the tire part, (not sure of it is a hubcap) but it looks off center [18:40] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] compare the front and back wheel [18:41] Pig_Pen: yeah, it does, but I think that's just the angle of the photo making it look off [18:41] i'd like to have one of those storm trooper uniforms [18:41] antler: and that car to go with it. :P [18:42] That's a nice car. [18:42] yeah, lotus, i think [18:42] Isn't that a Lotus? [18:42] antiwire: yeah, looks like it [18:42] i wanna say lotus elan [18:43] antler: nah, that doesn't seem right. [18:43] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: No route to host [18:44] http://z.about.com/d/classiccars/1/0/S/1/-/-/2008-Lotus-Exige-S.gif [18:44] nice [18:44] damn that's nice [18:44] http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/thesonofabob/StayPuftMarshmallowMan.png [18:44] er k [18:45] antiwire: yup, I just found that on lotuscars.com. Very nice car, but what's the price tag. :P [18:45] phoenix^, more than your life's worth [18:45] :P [18:45] dive: Oh I know that. :P [18:45] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:47b) joined ##slackware. [18:45] I wonder if I can install slackware on it? [18:45] more than it'll ever be worth too. [18:46] dive, slackware on a lotus car -_- [18:46] I bet Billy Gates could afford about 25-30 of em :P [18:46] yes the ultimate piece of kit [18:48] Techtronic (n=Techtron@77.90.71.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] Action: deco gives up [18:48] phoenix^: why would he drive. he has beaming technology [18:49] antler: good question. :P [18:49] nah beaming < driving around in a lotus [18:50] lol [18:50] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: No route to host [18:52] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:52] hi, I managed to get the famous rogers internet stick and wvdial working [18:52] okay got it [18:52] deco: what was the error? [18:53] well, it's blinking like it used to blink on vista [18:53] antiwire http://s2.desktopmachine.com/pics/Lexus_IS-F_192_1920x1200.jpg [18:54] yeah I like station wagons too [18:54] shaggin wagons ! [18:54] lol [18:55] ^^ [18:55] http://girlsinwhitedresses.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/stationwagon.jpg [18:55] merma (n=yo@unaffiliated/merma) joined ##slackware. [18:55] how can I check what version of imap i have? [18:56] merma: ls /var/log/packages/*imap* [18:56] I think [18:56] quasar: http://pastebin.com/m2670ae1f [18:57] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [18:57] phoenix^: yeah that did it, thanks [18:57] merma: you're welcome [18:57] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [18:58] dive: Lotus Exige S240 is $65,690 base price [18:59] that's less a ML class [18:59] that lexus needs body repair ;) [18:59] LawnJart (n=LawnJart@adsl-99-190-82-15.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [18:59] quasar: it works by building each package and not using KDE,SlackBuild [19:00] having some issues with /etc/hosts... i tried putting in www.google www.altavista.com and saved the file. but when i enter www.google.com in firefox i do not get to altavista [19:00] ifconfig down and up also did not work. there something else i need to do in order to activate hosts? [19:01] josteint lol; cant do that; those IPs are dynamic [19:01] www.google www.altavista.com << ain't something missing there ? [19:01] lol [19:01] sorry, meant google.com [19:01] josteint stop fking with the magic; and just be a user :) [19:02] lol [19:02] Quiznos: actually, i need to clock a server [19:02] block [19:02] that's not howto do it [19:02] be just a user [19:02] things'll be ok [19:02] put your blinders back on [19:02] lmao [19:02] mad_enz (n=Enz@CPE001310332408-CM0014045b2af4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] aint i a riot [19:02] Quiznos: how do i block a server? [19:02] scrolling riot [19:03] which server [19:03] ty tyvm [19:03] Quiznos: idnet.ua-corp.com [19:03] i iave left the building [19:03] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] Quiznos: doom3 tries to connect to that and check information. i do not want to do that now [19:03] 127.0.0.1 fqdn >>/etc/hosts [19:04] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Quiznos: ? [19:05] put that line into etc/hosts [19:05] fqdn being the name you wnt to block [19:05] josteint: he means: echo '127.0.0.1 idnet.ua-corp.com' >> /etc/hosts [19:06] eh, is it really so hard? There's already an example entry in /etc/hosts...? [19:06] wow my GPU fan fragged a few minutes ago [19:06] heh, I just noticed this in mine: 0.0.0.0 authorize.quake3arena.com [19:06] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.63.17) joined ##slackware. [19:06] sorry; full geek assistance mode here [19:06] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [19:06] beware of geeks bearing rifts... [19:06] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] or something like that [19:07] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:07] heh [19:07] ananke: i see. does not seem to work. could you please give it a try? [19:07] rantrantrant [19:07] ah, works.. silly cache in firefox :) [19:07] thanks! [19:07] yw [19:07] NEXT!? [19:08] i thought it was the other way around in hosts [19:08] IP names... [19:08] Hey guys, Im using Slackware 13, but sometimes KDE4 crash, and when i try startx command again the message says that /tmp is full =S and is a fresh installation :S [19:08] i follow. thanks again [19:08] deco: .. try completely removing all of your slackbuilds and downloading them again, the kdelibs.SlackBuild has that specific patch commented out [19:08] delete a file [19:08] Quiznos: how do I upgrade from 12.2 to 13.0? [19:08] installpkg *.t* [19:08] chopp: read UPGRADE.txt [19:08] lol [19:09] No no no; he wants the Quiznos method [19:09] chopp is kidding, little inside joke with Quiznos [19:09] pff [19:09] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] all you clowns are in on it [19:09] josteint: well, is /tmp full? (is it on its own filesystem? is it part of the / filesystem?) [19:09] i know you are [19:09] Action: ananke is slow tonight [19:09] ##Linux is busy [19:10] I am still tripping out on this new laptop disk. It runs cooler than my old one too [19:10] faster disk but runs cooler [19:10] kool [19:10] 2.88mb? [19:11] lns40 (n=snL20@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:11] WD3200BEKT [19:11] upgrade from a WD1600BEVS [19:11] deco: or in other words, it's still using the 4.2.4 slackbuild for kdelibs.. easiest way to fix that problem is to move the source files (all the .tar.gz files) to a safe place and removing the directory that you were using before, then redownloading the files from http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/source/kde/ .. yes, all of them [19:12] quasar: ok thanks [19:12] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:12] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [19:12] I just configured a PPP connection (according to ifconfig it has a valid IP, DNS, etc.). but when I load Firefox, Pidgin, etc. it's as if I had no connection at all. any idea what goes wrong? am I supposed to specify somewhere that the default interface should be ppp0 instead of eth0? [19:12] is there a gw entry? [19:13] in route [19:13] from route output [19:13] ip r s [19:13] nope [19:13] you need one [19:13] Mr_M4g1c (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Client Quit [19:13] below Gateway is * [19:14] below? [19:14] yes [19:14] duno what that means [19:14] it's formatted in a table [19:14] that list is linear; l->r [19:14] flame_me: what does this show you: ip r | grep default [19:14] each line is one device [19:17] root_ (n=root@c-174-51-239-161.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] root_ (n=root@c-174-51-239-161.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:18] antiwire: default dev ppp0 scope link [19:19] flame_me: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig -a ? [19:19] deco (n=deco@69.108.68.96) left irc: "leaving" [19:19] let me try [19:19] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.179.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] garrythefish (n=fisher@unaffiliated/garrythefish) joined ##slackware. [19:19] echtts (n=echtts@189-46-209-239.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:20] give me a minute please [19:20] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [19:21] bogdan_ (n=bogdan@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:21] ok, this is flame me [19:22] mad_enz (n=Enz@CPE001310332408-CM0014045b2af4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:22] you need the output for route and ifconfig -a? [19:22] josteint (n=josteint@84.215.36.243) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:22] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] sure both is good [19:23] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] ifconfig -a output: http://pastebin.com/m7fe3c0dc [19:23] bogdan_: try route -n [19:24] http://pastebin.com/m66cc3eb4 [19:24] that's route -n [19:24] it's using eth0 as the default route still [19:25] pppd should have an option to set the default route for you [19:25] I use wvdial [19:26] If I were to guess for you, you could try to do this: route add default gw 10.64.64.64 ppp0 [19:26] it might help to bring down eth0 for now though [19:27] Since you're still in the troubleshooting mode, the fewer interfaces up the better for now [19:27] ifdown eth0? [19:27] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth0_stop [19:27] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Hey [19:27] or you can just use ifconfig eth0 down [19:29] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:29] bogdan__ (n=bogdan@74.198.12.4) joined ##slackware. [19:29] bogdan_: Also, http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstagn/GPRS-HOWTO/GPRS-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.3 [19:29] that's an example for wvdial that should make it check the dfg [19:30] I've never used wvdial though [19:30] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [19:31] slackware netconfig script [19:31] says for ppp I need to choose loopback [19:33] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:34] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:36] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:36] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.63.17) left ##slackware. [19:37] inman (n=aligp@p579B468B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. 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I officially love xbmc [19:43] All i need now is to get lirc and then get it working with it [19:44] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [19:44] EasyTUX (n=ulule@AToulouse-258-1-90-196.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [19:45] bogdan_ (n=bogdan@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] Zordrak: you might want to post on linuxquestions.org about lirc support for XBMC [19:47] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Zordrak: I believe Woodsman got lirc up and running for XBMC [19:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-245-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [19:48] i noticed the thread [19:48] will come back to it tomorrow [19:48] just wondering if theres any support (with plugins perhaps) for tv cards with xbmc [19:49] I don't know...I don't have the proper setup to test [19:49] hm.. dvd fast forward doesnt work [19:50] http://imagebin.org/63636 [19:50] ohnowait it does :) [19:50] yep i love xbmc [19:51] inman (n=aligp@p579B468B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [19:51] Zordrak: Did you make, or find slackbuilds for it? [19:51] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:52] phoenix^: found [19:52] would be nice if the mousewheel were a volume control... [19:54] bogdan__ (n=bogdan@74.198.12.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] Zordrak: I'm not sure, but it may be possible to configure it that way. [19:55] probably.. im in Turn It On And Fiddle Mode [19:55] lol [19:55] havent read up on it yet [19:55] havent worked out how to properly full screen it yet [19:55] only maximise [19:55] I've only messed with xbmc on a Sabayon live dvd. It seems really nice though. [19:56] its good [20:01] Aivaras (n=Aivaras@78.60.163.15) joined ##slackware. [20:01] sweeeeet [20:01] fullscreened [20:01] Anyone got a spare beta key of Heroes of Newerth? (Dota that runs on linux) [20:01] watching Red Dwarf Season 1 on DVD [20:01] killer [20:02] night [20:06] red dwarf. [20:06] Action: yesyes approves [20:06] firedix (n=firedix@host245.201-252-162.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:07] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:10] christ on a bike. vim doesn't move to the last column on the line above when you press 'left' on the first column on the current line, if you see what i'm saying. [20:10] Zordrak: i figured you'd like xbmc :) [20:10] Action: yesyes install microsoft visual studio [20:10] it's on slackbuilds. [20:11] Action: ananke is trying to install wine-doors [20:13] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-95-62.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:15] merma (n=yo@unaffiliated/merma) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:19] does anybody know how to use sed on a binary file? [20:21] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:25] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my mind simply does not function right now, so i will let it do that in peace" [20:26] never mind...I figured out the issue [20:28] same way you use sed on a text file :) [20:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:29] chopp: you around [20:33] Wazzeg (n=Wazzeg@wc4zo1he33.adsl.datanet.hu) left irc: "Leaving." [20:35] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [20:36] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [20:37] SMURF IN daHIIZII [20:38] but you're not the PINK smurf!!! [20:38] nop [20:38] my sister is [20:39] well, magenta [20:39] time to make coffee i think for later [20:39] know the feeling - I've got the watch tonight till 8am [20:39] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] nods [20:39] i might nap before 3rd [20:39] but i'm alil wired atm [20:41] listen to 'totally wired' by the fall. [20:42] you'll thank me. i can see it in your tea-leaves. [20:42] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] I downloaded an XFCE theme, so where do I put it to use it? [20:43] ~/.themes [20:43] heh [20:43] just in ~/.themes? [20:43] or ~/.themes/B5/xfwm4 ? [20:43] Reticenti: yeah, then it will show up in xfce's settings for Appearance, or Window Manager depending on the theme it is. [20:44] Reticenti: Is the name of the theme B5? [20:44] no.. [20:44] oh [20:44] i see [20:44] Reticenti: I'm guessing you downloaded a tarball of the theme, so extract that to ~/.themes [20:45] yeah, ok, thanks [20:45] do i have to restart x? [20:45] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [20:45] no, it should just show up once it's in ~/.themes [20:46] If you have the Appearance or Window Manager settings open while you're doing this, then close and reopen them, but no need to restart X or anything. [20:48] and what do i do if it's still not showing up? :3 [20:49] Action: quasar stabs macromedia. [20:49] Reticenti: heh, if it's still not showing up, you could try logging out and in to X, or, make sure that the directory structure for this theme in ~/.themes is right. ~/.themes/Name_of_theme/xfwm4 [20:49] Reticenti: Where did you get the theme and what's the name of it? [20:49] oh [20:49] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:49] i didnt do the right sturcture [20:50] but... its still not working [20:50] Reticenti: Usually, if you just extact the tarball of the theme to there, it's already in the right structure, but some are not. The xfwm4 part is usually IN the theme already. [20:50] Reticenti: lol, ok, where'd you get the theme and what's the name of it? :P [20:50] I'm trying to do this one: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors+for+xfwm?content=88913 [20:51] ok, I have those too. sec. [20:51] Reticenti: ok, where are you looking, Appearance, or Window Manager? [20:52] appearnace [20:52] apperance* [20:52] try looking in Window Manager [20:52] ah yup, it was in win man [20:52] :) [20:53] :) [20:53] thanks [20:53] yw [20:53] one other thing [20:54] since i'm using a dark theme, in my browsers, some text fields get changed colors, but the text color doesnt get changed, so it's black on black [20:54] amazon101 (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:54] like google.com [20:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] is there a workaround [20:55] highlight the text so it looks different [20:55] Nick change: yesyes -> yes [20:55] Reticenti: yeah, I know what you mean. That can be changed, but I can't remember now. For example, in Firefox, iirc, you edit a file in ~/.mozilla, but I'm not sure. A google search for it would probably yield some ways to do it. [20:55] ok, thanks [20:55] Nick change: yes -> Guest68745 [20:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:00] phoenix^: I found this: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-693735-start-0.html [21:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[21:17] noobfarm.org access should be fixed [21:18] not sure what happened, but OSSEC went insane and banned a bunch of IPs [21:18] habaneros (n=habanero@97.102.250.71) joined ##slackware. [21:18] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/12/linux_zombies_push_malware/ [21:19] damn that linux! [21:20] but i thought linux was the most secure thinge ver [21:20] and that I could just run around using root all the time [21:22] Action: NyteOwl throws Reticenti a licorice root [21:22] damn ubuntu users allowing aliens to take over their minds [21:23] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [21:23] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [21:23] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [21:24] user9399 (n=user5306@76.250.190.56) joined ##slackware. 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[21:46] evening folks [21:47] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:47] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:47] howdy officergris [21:48] hello [21:48] how goes it, diven [21:51] ok and you officergris? [21:51] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.58.static.nextweb.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] can't complain [21:51] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.58.static.nextweb.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] I can .. dont you just _hate_ humidity? [21:52] can i use kde/gnome icon themes on xfce/ [21:52] dont you just hate it when you wake up with a kick stand? [21:52] [21:53] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:495) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:53] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.58.static.nextweb.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] quasar: humidity is terrible [21:53] the kickstand part, not so much [21:53] Reticenti: yes, you can [21:53] woo [21:54] anyone know of a really good dark icon theme? [21:54] I dunno if you would call it 'dark', but take a look at Xfce-Gant [21:56] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:47b) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:03] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [22:07] nickoftime (i=withoutn@modemcable108.44-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] KingBeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] I'm still unable to get my PPP connection to work. I'm using wvdial 1.6 with an MF636 USB modem from Rogers [22:13] ppp0 seems to have a valid IP and DNS [22:13] what could be wrong? [22:13] nickoftime: what problems are you having? [22:14] no internet on my laptop [22:14] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [22:15] even though according to ifconfig I should [22:15] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [22:15] nickoftime: that is a given, are you getting any error message or messages of any kind? [22:15] no [22:15] nickoftime: does ifconfig register a dhcp address? [22:16] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:16] I'd check the routing table. [22:16] "route" [22:16] Providing you do have a valid IP. [22:16] I will have to type the routing table, because I have no connection whatsoever on it [22:16] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-unesxerztqwdubus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:17] nickoftime: what ip address does ifconfig show for your ppp connection? [22:17] Should be fairly short. [22:17] 10.196.60.70 [22:18] nickoftime: can you ping the gateway address? [22:18] er [22:19] Well, more importantly, do you HAVE a gateway in the first place, hence 'check the routing table'. [22:19] 10.x.x.x is a private IP.. [22:19] gateway is 0.0.0.0 [22:19] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [22:19] your gateway is the "last resort" route? [22:19] what kind of ISP are you oN? [22:19] Rogers [22:19] Dominian: well, I've seen ISPs that use private ranges. [22:19] Mostly they suck, though. [22:20] SuN: Well, cable providers used to do that crap [22:20] according to wvdial --> local IP: 10.196.60.70 [22:20] remote IP: 10.64.64.64 [22:20] nickoftime: your ip address is invalid. Can you pastebin youe output that you receive when you attempt to connect? [22:20] primary DNS: 64.71.255.198 [22:20] the dns is valid [22:21] Invalid? [22:21] It's not 10.267.60.70 :) [22:21] on vista, I used to have an IP in the same range [22:21] 10.196.x.x [22:21] SuN: You were right, they must be using it for their internal network [22:22] do I have to run netconfig and choose static IP? [22:22] nickoftime: do you still have Vista? [22:22] and give netconfig the addresses I wrote above? [22:22] no :( [22:22] hm [22:22] well, yes [22:22] on this computer [22:22] nickoftime: there may be other issues such as your chosen rate, can you pastebin you connection output? [22:23] See, if you do an ipconfig on the Vista machine, you should see the default gateway. [22:23] ok [22:23] hold on [22:23] There's a slight chance it's 10.64.64.64 but it's not guaranteed. [22:23] user9399 (n=user5306@76.250.190.56) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] crap, now vista only sees the modem, not the usb/cd on which the driver and connection manager reside [22:25] it's going to take a few minutes [22:26] This is something wvdial should have fixed, though... it could be a simple switch. [22:26] But it can always be set manually anyway. [22:27] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:27] I'm thinking there is a misconfiguration in the wvdial configuration file [22:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.253.199) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:28] Quite possibly. [22:28] only the output of a connection attempt will tell us for sure [22:29] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [22:29] how do I produce such output? [22:29] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [22:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [22:30] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-162.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:30] when launching wvdial output the results to a text file then kill the process [22:30] KingBeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:30] or copy and paste from the terminal to a text file [22:30] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] ok [22:31] ivan_ (n=ivan@190.148.119.74) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:31] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:32] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] what's a good lightweight dock? [22:33] wvdial -C .wvdial.conf > a.txt? [22:33] will that do? [22:33] yes [22:33] KingBeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] since I don't have a working connection on the laptop.. tell me what other information you would like me to give you [22:34] eh nvm on the dock [22:34] I will transfer it on usb after this and upload it to pastebin with this computer [22:34] nickoftime: can't you hook the laptop to you main connection to drop it in pastbin [22:34] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [22:35] Or, unless you're setting up this machine as a router, spend the 20 bucks to get a real router :D [22:35] Emeau-cat (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-162.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:36] or you can setup a bridged connection in your vista box and hook the laptop through it [22:36] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] i second that, but a real router and save yourself the headache [22:37] s/but/buy [22:37] I wouldn't call a $20 piece of junk a "router" .. I'd call it a device that fails at simulating a router [22:37] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] quasar: I've seen many $20 routers that are quite capable and a lot of them run Linux. [22:38] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [22:38] my 20 dollar piece of junk works great [22:38] Just don't run torrents with 4000 connections :) [22:38] Although I must admit I normally run x86 Linux boxes as routers. [22:39] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Success [22:40] info is coming in a few secs :) [22:40] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [22:41] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] actually i prefer a low power wifi router, if it had more rx/tx power then it would be easier to find from people that were further away [22:41] ifconfig -a output: http://pastebin.com/m18f3a55 [22:41] route output: http://pastebin.com/m1b20b839 [22:42] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [22:42] wvdial.conf: http://pastebin.com/m51bb4dfd [22:43] and getting you the output of an attempting connection in a few seconds [22:43] ok [22:43] Sant0 (n=chatzill@201-27-169-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:44] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] wvdial -C wvdial.conf > a [22:44] didn't work [22:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [22:44] a is empty (0 byteS) [22:46] nickoftime: wvdial should have given some type of output displaying the connection initialization info [22:47] coming up [22:47] nickoftime: now, what type of connection is this, a dial up or evdo? [22:48] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:48] evdo? [22:48] mobile broadband [22:49] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:49] yes [22:49] mobile broadbad [22:49] band [22:49] wvdial output finally: http://pastebin.com/m456d0d1d [22:51] it looks like the connection is successful, but there may be an isue with the dns. from the laptop, when it is connected go to 64.233.169.104 in a webbrowser [22:52] YES [22:52] you were right [22:52] dns is the probably [22:52] nickoftime: do you have another system on that isp? [22:53] no [22:53] :( [22:53] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.189.50.95) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] buiu (n=buiu@189.71.91.124) joined ##slackware. [22:53] nickoftime: so, what is the status? [22:54] zuhair (n=zuhair@125.161.159.128) joined ##slackware. [22:54] it's google :D [22:54] 5 s 60 e 57 n [22:54] nickoftime: so it is the dns, if you can find an alternate dns to point to then the problem may be resolved [22:55] Or cut the first one and see if the 207.* one works. [22:55] alisonken1home: got it :) [22:56] I found this [22:56] http://www.timetraveller.org/rogers/ [22:56] at the bottom section: DNS [22:56] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:56] right now, /etc/resolv.conf has "search loc" [22:56] nothing else [22:57] nameserver 207.181.101.5 [22:57] Try adding that [22:58] WRKS! [22:58] gg [22:58] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [22:58] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:58] Silly Rogers giving out bogus DNS addresses. [22:59] I love you guys [22:59] nickoftime: hopefully you won't keep getting that bad dns from rogers [22:59] there as bad as telus [22:59] been there, done this dns crap with both [23:00] I've been running my own for quite a while. [23:00] buiu (n=buiu@189.71.91.124) left irc: Client Quit [23:00] it's expensive too [23:00] Whenever my connection was flaky, it was a DNS server going down about 90% of the time. [23:00] 1gb bandwidth for 35$/month :) [23:00] Woa that's tight. [23:01] then why not change the dns server you where using [23:01] but I live on a military base and I move out a lot, no permanent residence [23:01] SuN: would it be hard for nickoftime to getup his latop to have an internal dns so it won't rely on rogers? [23:01] so I can't call an isp like videotron to install the cables, modem, etc. [23:01] Panzer: it's my ISP's, using one farther away would make it slower and less reliable. [23:02] nickoftime: no homesteading option? [23:02] what's homesteading? [23:02] mfillpot: oh not at all, I believe bind in slackware comes with a caching dns config example. [23:02] SuN: I have actually see the oppisted of that [23:02] to get a permanent residence on the base? [23:02] they try to keep you in the same geographical location for home base/port [23:02] buiu (n=buiu@189.71.91.124) joined ##slackware. [23:02] Panzer: compared to running one locally? [23:02] or are you still young enough they send you all over? [23:02] yes, but I'm not qualified yet.. just did my recruit course [23:02] dchmelik (n=d@71.93.27.3) joined ##slackware. [23:02] ah [23:02] SuN: In this case with the lack of reliability I think it would be advisable for him to setup an internal on the laptop [23:03] starting infantry course in two weeks [23:03] on your lan you still need upstream dns servers [23:03] ok - that explains it [23:03] only those qualified can have a permanent residence [23:03] Panzer: yeah, for anything not cached. [23:03] not sure about army, but the navy barracks had internet options available when I was in [23:03] But root servers tend to not go down a lot. [23:03] and if your ISP dns servers suck then change [23:03] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [23:03] I'm in canada :) [23:03] you can always try public dns 4.2.2.1 :) [23:03] didn't at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland [23:04] nickoftime: there is a difference :) [23:04] I was u.s. [23:04] there was internet access at all the training bases I went to, but none in the dorms [23:04] 64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=249 time=29.1 ms [23:04] 64 bytes from 172.16.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.309 ms [23:04] and? [23:04] if your ISP dns is up and down then you have an issue [23:04] mfillpot: can you link me with docs on how to setup my own internal dns? [23:05] Panzer: second one is my own dns. [23:05] well then of course it is going to be alot quicker. [23:05] Yes, so near instant lookups for cached stuff like google. [23:05] I am still saying public like 4.2.2.1 for the upstream rather then your ISP's dns is better [23:05] nickoftime: I have not yet setup my own dns, so I can't advise, but I beleive that SuN can help [23:06] Panzer: oh no doubt. [23:06] of course cuase you have a LOCAL dns caching server [23:06] Panzer: yes, and that's really all I'm defending. [23:06] and yea that is the best setup. [23:06] but I am still talking upstream not local [23:07] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:09] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:09] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [23:10] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@82.155.221.212) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:10] Panzer: well yes, I would agree that if your ISP has crappy DNS, and you can't run one locally, it's the best option. [23:10] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) joined ##slackware. [23:10] why could you not be able to run a dns caching server locally? [23:12] I dunno, nothing certainly ever stopped me. [23:12] thank you mfillpot , alisonken1noc and SuN [23:12] G'night nickoftime [23:12] good night [23:12] nickoftime: np - good night [23:12] enjoy what'S left of the weekend [23:12] nickoftime (i=withoutn@modemcable108.44-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [23:14] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] that was a good break, now to finish the green chili [23:15] buiu (n=buiu@189.71.91.124) left irc: Client Quit [23:16] LawnJart (n=LawnJart@adsl-99-190-82-15.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [23:21] KingBeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] Sant0 (n=chatzill@201-27-169-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:23] buiutripa (n=buiu@189.71.91.124) joined ##slackware. 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