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[00:32] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-16-227.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-119-93.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) got lost in the net-split. [00:32] anybody know about configuring hal to automount harddrives? [00:32] see how long it takes me to lag out and die thiss time... [00:33] 7 min [00:34] it is better to lag out than to fade away [00:34] not really [00:34] hexhawk: well, I'm srt of pirating a distant access point.. [00:35] so it's not unexpected [00:35] its not pirated if they didn't secure it [00:35] i would reather fade away then lag out [00:36] Dominian, and if it is wpa ? [00:37] or in some cases WEP [00:37] that's 'secured' [00:37] if they ddin't secure it.. implies no password [00:37] which I see a lot of access points around my neighborhood like that [00:37] Tjohejs (~Tjohejs@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [00:38] I see 3 from here that are unsecured, it used to be more last year, people are starting to learn [00:38] Natenom (~Natenom@unaffiliated/natenom) joined ##slackware. [00:38] Dominian, hmm yeah then mine is "pirated" [00:39] tho i like the term shared without asking :P [00:40] or "unkowingly/unwittingly shared" [00:40] mancha (mancha@DOMINIA.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [00:40] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:40] Skywise (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:42] heviarti, lucky me as i have a bunch of local hospots from idiots to hack into daily [00:44] WireWulf: if you have google earth look up 'letha idaho' and then move two miles west. [00:44] it's not so dense here [00:45] heviarti, hmm i live in nowhere alabama dude [00:46] really? the town i live next to has three businesses.. a store, a machine shop and a trucking company. That is all. [00:46] heviarti, we have a school and a junk yard [00:47] we used to have a school... now it is the junkyard... [00:47] Action: WireWulf is in his nextdoor ppl iwebs [00:47] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [00:47] heviarti: high elevation there? [00:47] MLanden: not sure what the elevation i. [00:47] is [00:48] probably two or three thousand [00:48] heviarti: ok [00:51] I have a little dlink i can hit... that's what i'm on. there's one other machine on the network and all the ports are filtered. There's a linksys to the west, but I can't quite hit it. then there are the two ISPs. [00:51] If I had another two foot of cable I could get my antenna on the ridge of my roof. [00:53] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-129-19.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:53] sh4d0wl3ss (~sh4d0wl3s@ip68-5-133-53.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:54] spook_ (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:54] extor (~extor@c-76-16-36-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:54] madbear_ (~dude@c-bc2de655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [00:54] tmkd_ (1448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [00:54] _SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) joined ##slackware. [00:54] y3llow_ (~y3llow@111-240-218-98.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] sitwon_ (~adam@pool-108-18-101-134.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] jgor_ (~jgor@loki.indiecom.org) joined ##slackware. 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[01:06] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] WireWulf: Thanks... i feel far less noobish now. :( but i'm still saddened by my own failure. [01:06] ahh keep chunking away at it [01:06] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] rheault (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:06] you will figure it out [01:06] wheres that homo phrag [01:06] ? [01:07] WireWulf: so, uh.... tried driftnet? [01:07] heviarti: have you messed with xz as a comparison to bzip2? [01:07] heviarti, driftnet? [01:08] anyone able to answer my question? im sure its an easy one [01:08] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [01:08] m00p, unsure [01:09] bummer [01:09] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:09] ive been lurking for the best part of a week :/ [01:09] heviarti_ (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [01:09] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:09] but then i bearly subject myself to this channel [01:09] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:09] i dont blame you :P [01:10] WireWulf: tried driftnet? [01:10] Nick change: heviarti_ -> heviarti [01:10] not that i remember [01:10] but then my memory is faily wail shot [01:10] WireWulf: nice little toy. [01:10] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] i bet [01:12] great one for use while sitting on an access point... [01:13] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [01:15] will look into [01:17] honestly once i was running a copy of ettercap on the ISP's office network and caught their consultant seting up a threeway.... [01:18] lol [01:18] with 2 birds or 1 dude? [01:18] on yahoo chat [01:19] m00p: i think it was two dudes one chick [01:19] woof [01:19] m00p, i am sorry that was weird [01:20] Action: WireWulf is a robot XD [01:20] :D [01:20] beats being human [01:20] i mean ya'll have to reproduce [01:21] i all i got to do is d/l a backup of myself [01:21] ahh but reproducing is so much more fun than downloading stuff :P [01:21] thought you didnt like this chan? sounds like you fit in perfect :) [01:22] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] m00p, tonight maybe [01:22] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:22] tomarrow i maybe half drunk or horribly depressed [01:22] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) got netsplit. [01:22] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) got netsplit. [01:22] inp (1000@static-71-244-42-15.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [01:23] bummer [01:23] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. 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[01:46] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:46] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [01:52] this is a real pisser.. every time I try to move data, the connection drops odd [01:55] error_developer_ (~errordeve@host86-166-57-77.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-247-139.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:04] heviarti: wifi? [02:04] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] nooper: yup [02:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-77-133.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:06] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:07] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[04:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-247-139.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:04] jrodger (~jrodger@27-32-19-10.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-178-189.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:12] hi, i have set wlan0 interface parameters in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf. Ip, netmask, and gateway works. But wlan0 interface doeasnot connect to access-point. Why? [04:13] Nick change: tmkd_ -> tmkd [04:14] Nick change: tmkd -> tmkd_ [04:15] newslacker (~root@207-119-203-183.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:16] lancel00t (~Rob@96-42-14-254.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:19] use ubuntu you are to stupid for slackware [04:19] grazymax (~grazymax@host182-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:20] sirslacker (1000@s0276.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:22] claz: i dont ask you. [04:23] tmkd_: I had similar problems with my netbook. not exactly a direct solution, but you might want to explore wicd [04:23] _SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@208.98.61.45) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:23] of course i have set WLAN_ESSID [04:24] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [04:24] alphageek: i have heard about it. But first i would like to run without it [04:24] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@62.101.133.79' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:24] c1az kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You don't get to decide who's too stupid for Slackware. You now have three days to consider who's too stupid for IRC. [04:25] ty [04:25] thanks =) [04:26] Yes, I'm up late. [04:26] for manual wlan config, all I know of is to tweak /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf & /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf appropriately [04:26] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=networkmanager [04:27] :) [04:28] rworkman: btw, have you tried 3D with nouveau? (just curious: I have 0 need for 3D) [04:29] I don't have any nvidia hardware [04:29] Mowah (~Mowah@c-f685e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:29] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:30] ah, right, I think you had already told me that [04:30] Well, I don't remember, so I certainly wouldn't expect you to remember :) [04:32] c1az (gp858@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [04:32] but i am on windows [04:32] :D [04:32] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [04:32] c1az: you shouldn't avoid a channel ban [04:33] that is true [04:33] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:33] The message indicated that you are banned for three days [04:33] and that is true [04:33] but there is one more bigger true [04:33] you need @ with skils xD [04:33] c1az (gp858@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left ##slackware. [04:34] maybe someone else [04:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.55.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [04:34] rworkman: ^^ [04:34] some people are weird [04:36] Action: alphageek is bored [04:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@62.101.133.79' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:37] time for some tribes2, I suppose :) [04:37] biab [04:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-178-189.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:44] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:46] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-77-133.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-8-176.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:47] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:52] pete` (~user@039.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:52] Nick change: przemoc86 -> przemoc [04:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] meh.. no-one else was on my favourite server :( [04:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [04:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [05:00] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [05:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-21-49.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:16] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-80-119.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [05:20] killmsft (~killmsft@209.236.250.102) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [05:24] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] aziztcf (~aziztcf@dial-82-141-80-119.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:27] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [05:31] does anyone know a good scientific calculator preferably with a GUI? xcalc does not serve my needs, and pari/gp is just a bit over the top for my kind of day-to-day use. could anyone point me towards a good all round calculator? [05:32] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-168-198.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:34] meatpuppet, kcalc? [05:37] Ansa89, that one might do me fine actually.. an no install required :) [05:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:38] Ansa89, i shold have checked if kde had one, thats what i get for running a *box :) [05:43] meatpuppet, galculator? [05:44] bitlord, does it exist in any of the common repos? [05:44] SBo [05:45] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.143.90) joined ##slackware. [05:45] bitlord, thanks, installing it now.. [05:47] bitlord, yeah, the scientific version of galculator solves all my needs.. thanks ;) [05:47] np [05:48] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [05:52] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.143.90) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:54] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [06:05] hhhhhhhhhhhh (~UNIX@189.58.0.232.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[06:24] ext4 [06:24] then you 'll have to chmod the drive if the permissions are incorrect [06:24] missyrissy (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [06:25] hey tranny [06:25] ok [06:25] and see if I can mount it then [06:26] no, you can mount it anytime [06:26] if not, may be go into fstab and create an entry there [06:27] yep sorry, I meant mount it first then check out the permissions and if necessary chmod the drive [06:29] Nick change: missyrissy -> rhisa [06:29] rhisa (rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [06:30] if the permissions on the drive are okay, you need to put it into fstab with the option users [06:31] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [06:32] zongo_, are you using some Desktop Environment or how it calls, like XFCE or KDE? [06:32] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [06:32] KDE, but I think I may have found the answer. Because it is suppose to automount [06:33] /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf [06:33] I think the issue might be here [06:33] for automount your user need to be in plugdev group [06:33] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:34] t0f (~10000@1Cust5992.an4.dca17.da.uu.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [06:34] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:34] tsuyoi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer. [06:34] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:35] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:36] jaminja (jaminja@unaffiliated/jaminja) left ##slackware (""branch reality rc = 0""). [06:36] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:59] Anyway.. since noone is talking about slack. Anyone working on Tuesday for the polls? [07:00] Nick change: xchg_chrr -> xchg [07:07] zongo_ (~zongo@86-45-163-254-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Oh jeez, I should just sleep like everyone else. [07:12] moring risa [07:12] Good morning Skywise. [07:12] Why are you up? [07:13] F1 race starts in 30 mins [07:13] how you getting along? [07:13] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:13] Oh. [07:13] I got a lot of work to do and I am anxious to get started. [07:14] oh, theres a trick for that [07:15] What trick? [07:15] just start on anything, once you break the ice, you'll find its easier to keep going [07:15] you can waste alot of time making plans that don't matter [07:16] Hm.. [07:16] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [07:17] you don't have to finish, just breaking the project down into manageable chunks helps too [07:17] lots lof little things are easy to manage then one big amporphous project [07:17] Alright, fine, I'll do that then. [07:17] I have 2-3 projects to work on. I should get some sleep then. [07:18] Thank you Skywise. [07:18] yeah, breaking things down is about all i learned in college about engineering [07:18] yw [07:20] t0f (~10000@1Cust5992.an4.dca17.da.uu.net) left irc: Quit: t0f [07:20] zongo_ (~zongo@86-45-163-254-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [07:22] how can I uninstall program which is installed whit .rpm pack? [07:23] You installed rpm on Slackware? [07:23] Sappys: rpm -e [07:24] Nick change: ananke_ -> ananke [07:24] Hm weird. [07:24] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: rhisa [07:25] ananke, maybe rpm --help maybe there are some option for uninstall rmp --something package.rpm [07:25] rmp *rpm [07:25] bitlord: i'm not the one asking. i answered Sappys's question [07:26] sorry :( [07:26] and .run packs? [07:26] Sappys: there is no universal way for those. each one is different [07:27] i need uninstall virtualbox. [07:27] Sappys: good luck [07:28] Sappys, I think there are some uninstall script for Vbox [07:29] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDE23.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Sappys, /opt/VirtualBox/uninstall.sh I'm not sure about this [07:32] archceza1 (1000@age179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:32] bitlord, yes it is [07:35] archcezar (1000@acvn226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:38] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:39] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [07:40] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-21-49.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:41] padhu (~padhu@175.40.10.62) joined ##slackware. [07:44] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:56] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.2) joined ##slackware. [08:02] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] nostferatu (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [08:06] I get this error when I run when I run alsamixer:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory . [08:06] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-78-0-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Hello. I need some advices you guys. How can I organize collected data (such as e-mails, files, a Vbox image of a working machine) into a system that can allow forensic analysis. [08:07] I have alsa-lib install on my system. What should I do to make it work? [08:07] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] For example, we have full access to all kind of accounts, from e-mail to blogs but we don't have a procedure to save all of these into a report document for future use [08:10] zongo__ (~zongo@86-41-68-198-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] usr13 (~te@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:13] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-78-0-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:21] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:22] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.2) joined ##slackware. [08:24] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [08:27] nostferatu: what exact purpose is it going to serve? [08:28] as long as there is some basic metadata preserved, forensics work is going to take care of the rest [08:28] alienBOB: rebuilt audacious does not play .wma files [08:29] Axius (fd@92.82.92.2) left ##slackware. [08:30] ananke: I want to save everything from e-mail accounts to found DVDs and floppies. I don't know how to organize this kind of data. For example, is not sufficent to save the e-mails, I also have to flag those that were unread at the time of saving [08:31] zongo__ (~zongo@86-41-68-198-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:31] nostferatu: you're telling me what you think you want to do, but not telling me actual purpose [08:31] kitelau888 (~kitelau88@183.38.184.132) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.2) joined ##slackware. [08:32] pete` (~user@039.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:32] ananke: to gather all of the data from my dead father to understand why he commited suiced [08:32] suicide [08:33] Can someone help me config my sound card? [08:34] nostferatu: best way to preserve e-mail would be to get original mailboxes in whatever format they are. that's not possible unless you host said mail service. another way to do it would be to use fetchmail [08:34] beyond that, there is no organization which will help you, other than whatever makes sense to you [08:34] I get this error when I run alsamixer:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [08:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu expired. [08:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:35] I usually reboot when I see such an error [08:35] i understand that, ananke. i simply want to arrange this date, organize it, in order to better understand [08:37] nostferatu: for filesystem forensic analysis there is software that allows you to parse metadata on filesystems and present it in a historical order. your case is a bit different, and i've seen different people do it different ways. hierarchical structure of directories and files may work, along with files containing notes about metadata or observations [08:39] ys, that is what i need [08:39] When I run alsaconf my soundcard is recognized but when I run alsamixer I get a error. What should I do? [08:39] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:43] then i'd need to add sms-es, voicemails [08:43] damn [08:45] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:48] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [08:49] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_any [08:50] Axius: try alsamixer -c 1 [08:51] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-168-198.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:52] wrong -c argument '1' [08:53] try -c1 [08:53] btw, are you sure that after running alsaconf it did not throw any errors? (take a look at the term after running it) [08:55] nostferatu: FWIW, I'm really very sorry. [08:55] gbonvehi: no, it does not show any error after I run alsaconf. I get this error when the system boots:/usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1616: No soundcards found... [08:55] rob0: thank you [08:56] are you running a custom kernel? [08:56] gbonvehi: I run a kernel compiled by me. [08:57] i see... did you compile the modules for your soundcard? :) [08:57] gbonvehi: [08:58] if you did, i'd bet it's a /dev problem and I try to stay away from there, so I guess someone else will have to bump in [08:58] My soundcard is found when I run alsaconf. [09:00] pete` (~user@038.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:00] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.115.72) joined ##slackware. [09:01] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.249.22.67) joined ##slackware. [09:02] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-129-19.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:04] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:05] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:06] admboom (~mf@fw1-aus1.rackspace.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:07] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-129-19.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:10] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:11] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.115.72) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:15] Nick change: spook_ -> spook [10:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:17] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:17] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html?_r=1&hp [10:25] shonudo: thanks. i didn't realize we had people who repost reddit stories [10:26] neonflux (~neonflux@72-18-241-66.static-ip.telepacific.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:26] Wow. Never lost data or already backup is actual even for activits. [10:26] lmao [10:30] impy_ (~impy@91.182.231.92) joined ##slackware. [10:30] hei, does someone know how to change the axis of an input device after x has been started? [10:31] ananke, i saw it in the nytimes; didn't know about the repost of the repost :) [10:34] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [10:35] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:35] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:36] neonflux (~neonflux@72-18-241-66.static-ip.telepacific.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:45] Giggs (~Giggs@li126-61.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) joined ##slackware. [10:50] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [10:52] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.249.22.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:56] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@187.10.232.42) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Dice-Man (~Dice-Man@unaffiliated/dice-man) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:59] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-160.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@187.10.232.42) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:02] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:07] Damn. What a nasty article [11:07] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [11:08] nostferatu (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [11:08] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:19] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] that is atrocious. Unfortunate way to get more Linux fans though, as I would bet they do not continue using Microsoft products [11:21] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:21] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) joined ##slackware. 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[11:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:32] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.81) left irc: Client Quit [11:41] admboom: that has very little to do with linux or microsoft, despite what some people would like to believe [11:42] next, they'll look for music or movies [11:43] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:45] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) joined ##slackware. [11:48] ananke, true, but it does have to do with open vs closed. When living in a country that does not grant rights, technical solutions come to bear that do (open source) [11:48] and crypto [11:52] rafu (~rafu@42-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Mowah (~Mowah@c-f685e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:55] Action: admboom wonders if sending that "advocacy" group a slack disk and info on connecting to this irc channel if we would see them sooner rather than later [11:58] admboom: open source has very little to do with it. and encryption is not limited to open source [11:59] the real story is about government trying to silence opposition, and 'microsoft' has very little to do with it [11:59] encrypting an OS with backdoors is a loose definition of encryption [11:59] admboom: find one [11:59] conspiracy theories do not count [12:00] In the world Corporatacracy there is little difference between a government theft of computers or that of the corporation, as in the article Russia is acting on microsoft behalf. [12:00] not to mention, encryption had very little to do with what happened [12:00] I do not have access to the source [12:00] i see. so your claim of backdoors is a bogus one. [12:01] it cannot be proven either way [12:01] sure it can [12:01] you're the one using it as an argument. burden of proof is on you [12:01] ms has proven it can do stealth updates [12:01] if you can update the system without the user, you can do whatever you like [12:01] ms has proven that it will cooperate with governments in allowing their OS to be used remotely [12:01] admboom: and again, very little to do with the issue at hand [12:02] I used the term backdoor, arguably it is "change management" and since it is known, it is not actually a backdoor. [12:02] if that agency would have been using linux, they'd still get raided under the same excuse [12:02] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:02] That they violated the microsoft license? [12:02] probably [12:02] arkay (~fd@92.84.1.122) joined ##slackware. [12:03] admboom: any license. you pick, they would have used it as an excuse [12:04] ananke, I am not Russian, so I cannot speak for them or what they would do with a non-microsoft org. I do not see many articles that indicate similar raids occur under the guise of software licensing [12:04] in fact, it would have been probably even easier to use that excuse: 'you have no paperwork proving you purchased software? well, let's see about that' [12:04] do you have links to support that? [12:04] There are many links that support the opposite [12:05] ananke, i agree though, in authoritarian regime's, it would probably not make much difference if they wanted to take your computers they would. [12:05] admboom: first of all, in the link provided there is nothing indicating that microsoft instigated it. second, the link alone explains that government is trying to silence those folks. third, while i may not have anything link ready, i do have experience in living in that region of the world, where that was quite common [12:06] In the article microsoft states openly they instigate it by supporting governments to investigate them [12:06] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [12:06] admboom: microsoft didn't initiate it. they just had to follow with the local rules and regulations, once government initiated it [12:07] hmm, lunch time [12:08] ananke, i do not agree that they did not initiate it, and "Microsoft emphasized that it encouraged law enforcement agencies worldwide to investigate producers and suppliers of illegal software" [12:08] seems like an initiation to me [12:09] they did not initiate the targeted raid, but they do initiate these raids by "fighting" piracy. [12:09] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) joined ##slackware. [12:10] hey, is there any workaround for newly created shell scripts to be executable ? [12:10] chmod +x ? [12:10] automatically [12:10] set the mask [12:11] umask in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile(?) [12:11] bit of danger to doing that though. [12:11] YMMV [12:11] Is there any way to make the trigger of a gun automatically pull when it's pointed at something? [12:11] A bit over the top, but sure. [12:12] lol [12:12] admboom, great, thank you [12:12] darylc (~darylc@cpe-76-167-233-29.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] damn webkit took all night to build. [12:13] You don't want to modify the umask to do that (assuming it will even work - I don't think it will, since filemode default is 0666 and umask is 0022, hence normal mode afterward is 0644) [12:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-79-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:13] thumbs: yep, it's a beast [12:13] rworkman: I recompiled all the sbo's I had done under 13.0, since I'm now using 13.1 [12:14] rworkman: since midori failed to build I guessed one of my packages was fubar [12:14] likely :) [12:14] rworkman: the problem is that I had over 50. [12:15] $ ls /var/log/packages/*rlw | wc -l [12:15] 216 [12:15] rworkman: oh, pfft/ [12:15] But that includes xorg stuff and various other pre-current updates [12:16] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:16] arkay (~fd@92.84.1.122) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:17] rworkman: so I should have that workbench sbo ready by Monday. [12:18] Very good. Our pending queue is almost empty now :) [12:18] Axius (~fd@92.84.1.122) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hrad, rworkman is correct, you cannot. bash does not allow making a script executable by default [12:20] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [12:20] yep [12:20] I just noticed [12:20] maybe in a different shell? [12:21] bad idea though. [12:21] just execute it with bas [12:21] I'm building apps started by shell and I have to chmod it every time [12:21] bash [12:21] yes [12:21] bash