[00:00] After adding a user and trying to log in into the new account, kconf_updates hogs the cpu forever... [00:00] Correction. It is kconf_update [00:01] adduser or useradd? [00:01] dive; pff, vi [00:01] lol; [00:01] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:02] "scipts? we dont need no steenken scripts!? [00:02] " [00:02] heh [00:02] i missed most of blazing saddles on tv the other nite :( [00:02] very sad [00:03] hmm, oc256 is ~13.25G/s [00:03] so oc768 is umpteen times faster. [00:04] it might be Tb sized. [00:04] well 3x I would have thought? [00:04] yea [00:04] we can squeeze around a Tbit/sec on our backhauls... nondispersion-shifted fiber, corning smf-28 usually [00:04] lol; nice jibber [00:04] heh [00:04] all the major telcos are doing the same [00:04] we dont know that [00:05] all i saw was att and a couple of other non-desceript names :) [00:05] doh [00:05] i think i jsut realized i didn't actually only get /slackware [00:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:05] and i forgot to exclude source [00:05] so no one wants to peek my Archive/? [00:05] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:05] boohoo [00:05] Archive of what? [00:06] a collection of uniq and estoric bits. [00:06] quote that [00:06] subtitle [00:06] stunix_ (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [00:06] dive, adduser [00:06] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] cnet is slow; musta been asleep [00:07] ganeshix, did you create a /home/user dir and chown it, plus add to the usual groups? [00:08] ganeshix, sorry I got that ass about face [00:08] he [00:08] heh [00:08] e [00:08] no, one heh. not two [00:09] heh [00:09] Nick change: Emeau -> Nemeau [00:09] ganeshix, so you have checked perms and and groups etc? [00:09] dive, I took care of that. I usually have a checklist for those steps... I did it. [00:10] ganeshix review etc/login* files [00:10] alright, it's go time, gonna try to do this upgrade [00:11] Quiznos, I'll do that now... [00:11] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] mmm i just got a hankering to play with a TRS-80 [00:15] ganeshix, you might want to also check the log: ~/.kde4/share/apps/kconf_update/log/update.log [00:15] I see... I'll look there too... [00:17] ganeshix, did you copy any .kde stuff over from another user dir, or was it clean? [00:18] in the mirrors file, there are only *3* OC48 lines for mirror sites., all at mirrors.usc.edu, [00:18] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] I didn't copy anything... [00:18] now, if more than one url in the mirrors file is selected, what does slackpkg do? [00:18] I just followed the regular adduser steps... [00:19] ok the legend at top of file says "PICKONE ONLY!!!" [00:19] ok [00:20] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] dive, nothing on update.log for the new user [00:21] it's empty [00:22] hmm, usc.edu has its own linux dist [00:22] ganes scooz me, what's daProb? [00:23] On my account, on the other hand, it has not changed for the past 2 days. [00:24] ganeshix, well I'm not sure where else to look for clues with that. Hopefully someone else will know something. Did you try #kde yet? [00:24] I'm doing that right now. no answer yet. [00:25] ganeshix scooz me, what's daProb? [00:25] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:26] I'm wondering if it's just something that occurs with a new user profile, and that leaving it running for a while will sort it out. [00:26] I created a new account with adduser. When login into the new account on KDE, I get a message, 'configuring services', it never ends. [00:26] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:26] dive, I tried leaving it there for a few hours. Apparently that program, kconf_update gets into some endless loop... [00:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:27] Quiznos, while waiting for the 'services to be configd', top shows kconf_update hogging the cpu (100%) and not letting go... [00:28] I would try deleting/mv'ing .kde and then try again perhaps. [00:28] In the meantime, in my regular account, clicking 'home' leads to a frozen konqueror window, never letting me look at my files. [00:28] ganeshix: new installation or upgrade from 12.2? [00:29] rworkman, actually, upgrade from 12.1 to 12.2 [00:29] How long ago? [00:29] Initially the only real problem on KDE after the upgrade was korganizer crashing with remote files (I always use remote files). [00:30] rworkman, about 4 days ago (the upgrade) [00:30] But this freezing problem, just since yesterday. [00:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-12-214-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] I don't know if the upgrade is to blame, since initially nothing of this happened and I did create a new account, with no problems. [00:31] So, between the creation of the first new account and the creation of this new one, something happened. [00:31] ganeshix: df -h <-- see if /tmp is full [00:31] (or anythign else) [00:32] rworkman, df -h -> tmpfs 979M 0 979M 0% /dev/shm [00:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [00:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-62-241.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:32] thats not tmp, thats /dev/shm [00:32] whats your / [00:32] That's not at all what I asked. [00:33] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:33] sorry [00:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:34] ganeshix "kill it; kill it now" :) [00:34] IT'S GROWING!!! [00:34] DUN DUN [00:34] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:34] DUN DUN dundun [00:34] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Quiznos, I killed it. [00:34] lol; ok [00:35] rworkman, http://ganeshix.pastebin.com/d2c852f59 [00:35] neat a personal trash bin? are those free to whom? [00:35] 1st cup-o-joe. [00:35] okay, that's not it. now ls -ld /tmp [00:37] rworkman, http://ganeshix.pastebin.com/d5acdc6b [00:38] here's yours Quiznos http://lamer.pastebin.com/ [00:38] Now that I killed kconf_update, my icons on kicker on my original account are useless. [00:38] antiwire: lol [00:38] hrm, I don't know :/ [00:39] ganeshix: just for grins and giggles, kill X completely, log in as root, and do this: [00:39] rm -rf /tmp ; mkdir /tmp ; chmod 1777 /tmp [00:39] yay [00:39] fire|bird, morning! [00:39] ganes strace that bin you killed [00:39] greetings dive, how are you? [00:39] hey boird [00:39] Then mkdir /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix ; chmod 1777 /tmp/.{X11,ICE}-unix [00:39] then try again. [00:40] fire|bird, well thanks, but a hangover is creeping up on me, hows yourself? [00:41] dive: doing excellent, thanks. Lappy is still working great and hdd image is almost done restoring, about an hour left (I hope it works this time). [00:41] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:41] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [00:41] iyobe (n=iyobe@96.231.0.113) joined ##slackware. [00:41] fire|bird, yeah. [00:41] rworkman, OK. I'll do that. [00:41] ganeshix strace that bin you killed [00:42] ganeshix chk other opts to strace for loging [00:42] fire|bird, http://omploader.org/vMjUwaw stolen from kdm ;-) [00:42] dive: nice, that's actually the kdm theme I use. :P [00:43] dive, just stay drunken stoned and you wont have a hangover [00:43] =p [00:43] fire|bird eat beef to aleviate hang-over (slows blood dilution) [00:43] linux_probe, no beer left :/ [00:43] Quiznos: I don't drink at all in the first place. You typed to the wrong person. [00:44] askALibrarian.org for live answers. [00:44] oh [00:44] dive eat beef to aleviate hang-over (slows blood dilution) [00:44] oh noes thats tragic [00:44] it doesnt affect drunk just the hangover [00:44] lol [00:45] id hipe not [00:45] kthxbai [00:45] huh? [00:45] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.158.135.0) joined ##slackware. [00:45] or everyone would eat massive steaks and get trashed =p [00:45] redtricycle i hate you! [00:45] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:45] :) leaving and changing your mind this morn. [00:45] bastage [00:45] lol [00:45] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [00:45] Quiznos: changing my mind? [00:45] ehh?? [00:45] What happened? =P [00:45] this mornin [00:46] on that pkg [00:46] i was configing when you changed your mind :) [00:46] Ohh, did u get it to work? [00:46] nop; you quit then i did. [00:46] lol [00:46] bastage user [00:46] Oh, I never got it to work [00:46] rofl [00:46] (all tung in chick) [00:46] it's tongue and cheek [00:46] not any more [00:47] orly? [00:47] :) [00:48] Why is that? because you said otherwise? [00:48] omg are you really on this? :) [00:48] lol [00:49] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [00:49] god it's dawn already... [00:50] no, the proper response is: "God, I'll never do that again" [00:50] lol [00:50] that's the prayer of all drunkards. [00:50] lol [00:50] only drunkards and formers know that one. [00:51] Quiznos, been there, done that, all forgotten about as soon as I'm in the supermarket [00:52] nods sure [00:52] first drink I've had in ages anyway [00:52] i've been enjoying bee-ah at home lately; i'm prefering bottles to cans tho. [00:53] who were the people of the Temperance movement of the early 1900s? [00:54] well, being disciples wanting the Prohibition amendment, they were wrong biblically. [00:54] jesus turned water into wine [00:55] so that doesn't give a lot of heedance to the movement [00:55] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:55] Well, I'm off to bed, so wish ganeshix luck if/when he returns. [00:55] and out of that amendment, we got all the alphabet agencies, specially the BATF, and FBI. (Bureau of internal revenue was created in the 1860s iinm) [00:55] rworkman, sure, nn [00:55] gn r [00:55] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-12-214-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:55] dive they took the wrong conclusion from scripture. [00:55] same old [00:56] there is a time and place for drinking; even for a condemned man, Proverbs says, let him drink at his end. [00:56] paraphrased [00:56] IOW, a man sentenced to die shouldnt be sober. [00:57] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:59] what's x11's XCB module? [01:00] yay, ST:TNG [01:00] no idea [01:01] k [01:01] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] jigp (n=jigp@securabit/listener/jigp) joined ##slackware. [01:01] hello gud pm [01:01] morning [01:01] how to change mouse ps2 into imsp2? [01:02] i accidentally choose ps2 [01:02] /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse [01:02] it thould be imsp2 because mouse have balls [01:02] ball [01:02] lol [01:02] that looked really funny at first :) [01:03] male mouse? [01:03] only one ball [01:03] not balls [01:03] damn, nvid*fb is blacklisted in module.d [01:03] I know - still funny :) [01:03] what's the effect of delisting? [01:03] dive : options psmouse proto=imps [01:03] Quiznos, because nvidia driver doesn't like it I think [01:04] dive : how to comment this thing? [01:04] dive : putting a "#" [01:04] dive hmm that bytes [01:04] doesnt like what? autoloading? [01:04] being a module? [01:04] jigp, try /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-`uname -r` [01:05] Quiznos, nvidia driver refuses to build if it detects nvidiafb presence [01:05] or used not to anyway [01:06] dive but in kern config, i selected hw-specific fb [01:06] dive: its blank [01:06] iyobe (n=iyobe@96.231.0.113) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:06] jigp, sorry, was that line what you have in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse or were you asking if that's what to put in it? [01:07] dive : to change the mouse from ps2 to imps2 because i accidentally choose ps2.my mouse have balls [01:07] ball* [01:07] jigp, yeah, so the /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse shows imps already? [01:08] http://HelloFromEarth.net for twittering to Space!!! roflmao [01:08] terrapin (n=unknown@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [01:08] jigp, what is output of 'uname -r'? [01:08] weather on the moon Titan! [01:09] ./etc/modprobe.d/psmouse "options psmouse proto=imps [01:09] clouds seen and typhonic weather patterns [01:09] 7billion ppl by 2011 [01:09] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] dive: nano /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-`uname -r` -- is empty [01:10] forced vacinations RSN [01:10] learn to say NO. [01:11] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [01:11] jigp, what does ls /var/log/packages/*modules* show? [01:12] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:13] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.24) joined ##slackware. [01:14] jigp, anyway you can run the mouse script again by running pkgtool and choosing setup [01:14] dive : /var/log/packages/kernel-modules-2.6.27.7-i486-1 [01:14] hi [01:14] hi [01:14] jigp, but afaik that's only for gpm mouse, not in X [01:14] correct dive [01:14] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-6-248-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] but gpm can interop with x [01:14] -R [01:14] dive : /var/log/packages/kernel-modules-smp-2.6.27.7_smp-i686-1 [01:15] -R /dev/input/mice [01:15] bo angels and demons [01:15] stupid movie [01:15] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:15] boo [01:15] agred [01:15] i dont see how one guy could kill 47 cops [01:15] jigp, you should have an rc.modules corresponding to thos module packages in /etc/rc.d [01:16] in a 30 minute time frame [01:16] jeev the author of those books is a fraud and deceiver to mis-direct faithful. [01:16] if you want a psychological freak out movie check out Synecdoche, New York [01:16] yea, religion is fraud [01:16] i dont do "religion" [01:16] i'm a "christian" [01:16] i'm a disciple [01:17] thffpt :) [01:17] but america has destroyed chrisianity and used it to kill millions [01:17] then it aint christianity as such. [01:17] but americans were never christians, thank god i'm not a dumb shit american, whether or not armenians (i am one) were the dumbest people on earth to accept christianity first or smartest.. [01:17] i'm glad i dont fall into the dumb shit list of american citizens who uses christianity to kill others [01:17] you can call something what you want but it doesn't necessaraly meet the criteria [01:17] yea [01:18] you cannot impose your POV on those who went before. [01:18] that's called revisionism [01:18] jeev also, you cant call it "christianity" for acts done contrary to god. [01:18] it's not christian. [01:19] what's not christian [01:19] murder. [01:19] yea [01:19] murder isn't any religion [01:19] theivery [01:19] lying, manipulation [01:19] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:19] and as you say "done in the name of" but none of those acts done by people in govt are part of the aspects of that name. [01:19] before america started using technology to make people hate religion even more, it was a decent world [01:20] nods [01:20] now america has the technology to fart in space and kill 80,000 people [01:20] and blame it on gremlins [01:20] lol [01:20] and dumb americans will believe it [01:20] nods [01:20] the concept of _The Matrix_ applies here. [01:20] yea [01:20] you have to love the America that forced it's Christianity on the native peoples of North America [01:20] too bad we cant recompile dumb shit citizens [01:20] sarcasm [01:21] jeev but we can direct them to info to help deprogram them [01:21] separation of church and state my balls [01:21] dive : thanks :) pkgtool i choose imps [01:21] Quiznos, not as long as people like sean hannity and rush dickbaugh are alive [01:21] jigp, but that might not cure the problem in X [01:21] one cannot separate a man's faith from his being; they are the same thing. [01:21] i dont think they're stupid, i think they're businessmen. [01:21] they're saying stupid things cause they got stupid ones following [01:21] jeev they are entertainers on relevent info. [01:21] Fox pays well [01:22] stupid followers = lots of money, ie myspace, facebook, tweeter and other gay social indexing services [01:22] jigp, xorg.conf may well have other driver [01:22] jigp, so check that too [01:22] terrapin, damn right fox pays well [01:22] how to install restricted packages like flash player java etc? in ubuntu i use "ubuntu-restricted-extras" but seems like its not working [01:22] dive X -configure to get fresh conf [01:23] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:23] jigp, java is included by default, flash you can get from http://slackbuilds.org [01:23] Quiznos, yes I know [01:23] k [01:23] jigp, if you did a full install you should have java [01:24] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] ls /var/log/packages/jre* [01:24] hmm, upgrade seemed to go ok, no luck with my ati card :\ [01:24] fiyawerx: what card? [01:24] dive : i see. but not adobe flash player [01:24] terrapin: hd4890 [01:24] dive : nano xorg.conf seems empty [01:25] fiyawerx: probably have best luck with the proprietary drivers with that card [01:25] dive : yah java is already there [01:25] yeah, except they dont seem to work with 2.6.29 [01:25] trying to figure out what else to do now [01:25] fiyawerx: ah yeah [01:25] jigp, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [01:26] there are gentoo patches, no clue how to use them at the moment tho [01:27] fiyawerx: I hope they pull their head out of their ass soon, this is rediculus [01:27] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-232.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:28] trying to browse around for a solution in links is a bit of a pain [01:28] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:28] fiyawerx: you could probably use radeonhd to get you by until you find a patch to fglrx [01:29] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [01:29] oh, hmm [01:31] but man if you spend that kind of money on techonology you expect it to work, I guess Linux support is not high on their list [01:31] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:32] well AMD make cpus. I wouldn't expect them to put vid cards on a high priority like NVidia do. [01:33] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] hmm, no luck, unless im doing something wrong, startx just locks the pc up solid, and needs to reboot afterwards [01:33] which drivers have you tried? [01:33] try the amd/ati git repo @phoronix.com maybe [01:34] I would have thought that radeon driver is more stable than radeonhd [01:34] dive tried putting radeon and radeonhd in my xorg.conf, but its still one that was made by aticonfig --initial when i was using 12.2 [01:34] is there a way to get a clean xorg.conf to start with again [01:35] fiyawerx: -current? [01:35] terrapin: yeah [01:35] try without an xorg.conf [01:35] did, locked up solid [01:35] fiyawerx, in that case you probably want to install the xorg ati and xord radeon drivers again. the driver in xorg.conf can easily be edited out. [01:35] BAH, this last imaging attempt failed too. [01:35] fiyawerx, I've got a 4850 and ended up having to use the radeon driver instead of hd [01:35] quasar: are you on -current? [01:35] yes [01:36] how do you send mail to another account on the same machine? [01:36] oh, i dont know if i have the radeon driver actually, just did an ls *radeon* in /var/log/packages, and got radeontool and radeonhd [01:36] pizzledizzle: You could open your mail client and just send an e-mail to the other address. [01:37] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [01:38] im trying to send it to me but when i check it with 'mail' it says no new mail [01:38] fiyawerx, when you tried to install radeon driver it may well have overwritten the xorg driver [01:38] problem in sbopkg; unwarranted and unqualified assigned of "/usr/bin/tar" to $TAR. here, it's not in usr/bin!!! [01:38] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-12-247-18.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:38] fiyawerx, reinstall xorg radeon and ati drivers to be sure [01:39] replacing text with `which tar` [01:40] why is it an error from "sbopkg -s xz" that xz pkg is NOT found? that's NOT an error. [01:40] fiyawerx, and if radeon still doesn't work you can use vesa driver in an emergency [01:41] man I would be pissed if I spent $200+ and had to use vesa [01:41] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [01:42] I would be pisssed if I spent £5 and had to use it [01:42] exactly [01:42] I will buy nvidia until they get their shit together [01:42] This is the reason i always buy nvidia [01:42] hmm, should there be a regular radeon package in /var/log/packages? [01:42] but until he solves the problem at least he can boot up firefox and look for answers [01:42] ati is fail these days [01:43] fiyawerx: yep [01:43] AMD/ATI is FAIL [01:43] terrapin: nod, this pc was mainly for gaming tho, just wanted to try linux on it since i dont have my old one any longer [01:43] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [01:43] fiyawerx, xf86-video-ati-xxx [01:43] i wonder when AMD will go under [01:43] might help [01:43] oh ati, that ones there, nod [01:44] yes but I'm saying you might need to reinstall them _if_ your tried installing the ati driver in the past [01:44] aka a non xorg driver [01:45] I hope amd doesn't go under, they keep intel honest [01:45] dive, nod, ok will try, i did in fact try installing the fglrx driver [01:46] then in xorg.conf for driver do you put 'ati' or 'radeon' ? [01:46] fiyawerx, ok, so if I were you I would reinstall xorg-ati and xorg-radeonhd [01:47] fiyawerx, well you can try either. If I recall correctly the ati driver is kind of like a wrapper that decides which driver to use. [01:47] ok here goes [01:49] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:49] no good, locked up with ati, will try radeon [01:50] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] no good, darn [01:53] what graphics card do you have? [01:53] dive : how to change the nic? i have 3 nics. nic1 is builtin and the other nic2/nic3 are external that i plugin. now slackware connected to nic3 (because there is no net in nic1 and nic2) .. how to switch from nic3 to nic1 builtin nic of mobo?for me nic1 is fast because nic1 is connected to the builtin mobo and have ram [01:53] looks like you might be stuck with vesa for now [01:53] are there any special settings to configure before starting sendmail server in slackware or are defaults fine? [01:53] mancha: hd4890 [01:54] hm let me try vesa [01:54] in sbopkg, sort doesnt result in alphabetic list. [01:54] it's not numeric either [01:55] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:55] haaaaaaalp [01:55] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] hmm thats odd, same lockup [01:56] s'matter piddle? [01:56] pizzledizzle, use /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail [01:56] pizzledizzle, use /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail start|stop|restart [01:56] pizzledizzle IMO you really need to replace sendmail. [01:56] i suspect something else is up [01:57] quite possible [01:57] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Success [01:57] fiyawerx, I'm wondering if that fgrlx driver overwrote some core X files. I know nvidia driver uses it's own OpenGL stuff... [01:57] fiyawerx: you might reinstall the whole x directory just to see what happens [01:58] will do [01:58] and uninstall fglrx first [01:58] how do you uninstall it when the build failed to compile completely? [01:59] jigp, not sure about that. I have two but usualy only the one with the cable in gets setup for networking. [02:00] fiyawerx you'll need a very recent ati driver from xorg, not the stock 12.1 or 12.2 one [02:00] fiyawerx, no idea. [02:00] dive : ok thanks :) [02:00] mancha: currently have 6.12.2 - do you know if thats not recent enough? [02:01] jigp, in fact perhaps both get setup, but obviously the one with cable will work ;-) [02:01] it has to be post 4/2/09 [02:01] no one can respond to my notes on sbopkg? [02:02] SBo changelog is too old. more than 3 weeks. [02:03] no updates due to the looming 13 slackware release [02:03] hi [02:03] hi [02:03] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] terrapin right. read that here; when did taht begin? jul 2? [02:04] Quiznos: I believe so [02:04] kk [02:04] so sbo is the wrong pkger to be using atm. [02:05] fiya, 6.12.2 might not be ew enough, get the latest git [02:06] jigpp (n=jigps@121.97.98.88) joined ##slackware. [02:06] hm [02:08] dive : seems like the mouse ball is not working when i choose pkgtool imsp2 [02:08] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [02:08] it is borderline, your card's commit is dated right around the 6.12.2 release date - not sure if it made it in. also other HD cards were added in afterwards [02:08] get a laser mouse [02:09] but anyways itso k [02:09] well, i should be able to get it working with vesa right? if it wont do that much, messing with driver might be misleading [02:09] dive : i found and easy way to use andview youtube without installing adobeflash [02:09] dive : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-to-play-youtube-videos-under-slackware-572867/ [02:10] dive: but how to use this code? #!/bin/sh [02:10] baseurl='http://youtube.com/get_video.php?' [02:10] i tried to type : !/bin/sh [02:10] command not found [02:11] that is the shebang line [02:11] get a trackman [02:11] jigpp, its the beginning of a script [02:11] its also probably not working, its dated 2007 and youtube changed their url formats and level of obfuscation [02:12] jigpp: it's "#!/bin/sh" - when it's the first line in a script, it tells it to use that shell for interpreting the rest of the file - like "#!/bin/env python" would be a python script [02:12] ok ill google another tutorial [02:12] alisonkenlnoc [02:12] im noob will shell scripting [02:12] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/dont-know-how-to-install-flash-player-in-slackware-651503/ [02:12] found it [02:12] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] alright, im tired and patience is waning, will pick this up tomorrow - dive and mancha and everyone, thanks for the info [02:13] ooh, with that said, gave it one last shot, i got the kde splash screen [02:14] thats progress! [02:15] hello i just "su -i" to gain root [02:15] but im stock here [02:15] # tar -xvf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar -C /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:15] tar: /root/Desktop/flash10: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory [02:15] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [02:15] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/dont-know-how-to-install-flash-player-in-slackware-651503/ [02:15] thats the tutorial i use [02:15] mancha: yeah, now i actually get errors logged in xorg.log heh [02:16] what did you do to get it to splash screen? [02:16] of course firefox is not running [02:16] /root/Desktop/flash10 doesn't exist [02:16] ok [02:17] yup but i cannot see the "Desktop" in root account [02:17] su -i [02:17] mancha: vesa driver after i reinstalled all of /x/ [02:17] ls is blank [02:17] going to try radeon now [02:17] empty [02:17] mkdir /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:17] then try the tar command again [02:17] mkdir -p /root/Desktop/flash10 (that is) [02:18] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] sweet! [02:18] radeon worked [02:18] rock on [02:19] now to fix the resolution, its tiny heh [02:19] macha : bash-3.1# mkdir -p /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:19] what were you doing wrong before? [02:19] it actually seems to be running pretty well so far too [02:19] macha : bash-3.1# tar -xvf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar -C /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:19] tar: install_flash_player_10_linux.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory [02:19] mancha, i think there were still files fubard from the failed fglrx install [02:19] mancha : tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [02:19] reinstalling all of slackware/x/ got it going [02:19] fiyawerx_: with a card like that you would hope so [02:19] terrapin, :-D [02:19] aha, you installed the prop drivers, thats always bad mojo for later reversion to xorg [02:20] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] mancha: my latest imaging attempt has failed too. :P [02:20] jigpp, you have to issue the tar command in the dir that has the tar file [02:20] hmm [02:20] ok [02:20] do i have to manually enter resolution choices into xorg? kde is only letting me do 1024x768 [02:21] macha : # tar -xvf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar -C /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:21] libflashplayer.so [02:21] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:21] macha: tar: libflashplayer.so: time stamp 2009-07-18 11:10:12 is 238049365.757175294 s in the future [02:21] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:21] im in /smcity/Desktop where the file is on [02:21] you dl'd a flashplayer from the future? [02:22] i downloaded the flash here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_(.tar.gz) [02:22] your clock is off it seems, what does "date" show? [02:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [02:22] he flashed into the future. :P [02:22] # date [02:22] Tue Jan 1 06:22:17 PHT 2002 [02:22] I could use some of that future action [02:22] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:22] anyways, put the libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to use it for firefox [02:23] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] jigpp, and you are aware it is not new years day 2002, right? :) [02:23] wb fiyawerx_ :) [02:23] fire|bird, thanks... getting there [02:23] trying to get my resolution set now heh [02:23] fiyawerx_: good luck [02:24] macha : upon checking the time there is no feature to change the time.i guess i will install ntp..putting libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is i dont know how to do that [02:24] sorry about the joins/parts, xchat is starting automatically [02:24] ok i got it [02:24] what time is it now for you? [02:24] real time [02:24] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:24] its 2:24pm here august 13 2009 [02:25] ok i got it - means i got the folder but i dont know where libflower [02:25] libflashplayer.so * [02:25] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] type: date -s "Thu Aug 13 14:24:00 PHT 2009" [02:25] ok, i removed my xorg.conf altogether, and got 1920x1200, awesome [02:25] i think i may be all good [02:26] mancha ok itworks [02:26] what works, your time or flash? [02:26] or both? [02:26] the screen blink [02:26] ? [02:26] and the time now is 14:26 [02:26] tar also is working [02:26] tar -xvf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar -C /root/Desktop/flash10 [02:26] libflashplayer.so [02:27] cp /root/Desktop/flash10/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [02:27] wow, fullscreen hulu even -almost- works :-\ [02:27] guess this won't be going on my htpc any time soon heh [02:28] mancha : that is new command?cool. From the Terminal, go the extracted folder and run the installer script: [02:28] bash flashplayer-installer [02:28] different from the tutorial [02:28] nice trick [02:28] though i cannot cd to the root desktop [02:28] trickster hobbitses [02:28] there is no Desktop word there [02:28] cd /root/Desktop will cd you there [02:29] # /usr/lib/firefox [02:29] bash: /usr/lib/firefox: is a directory [02:29] well overall, very happy with slackware-current, not so much with ati [02:29] im in the last part of tutorial [02:29] but its not working [02:29] enter the directory where Firefox is located: [02:29] /usr/lib/firefox [02:29] you typed cp /root/Desktop/flash10/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:29] ? [02:29] yah [02:29] i think i typo'd last time [02:30] does slackware-current use bash 4? [02:30] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) left irc: Success [02:30] 3.1.17 looks like [02:30] jig, just use this last cp line i typed: cp /root/Desktop/flash10/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:30] mancha :bash-3.1# cp /root/Desktop/flash10/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [02:30] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:30] ok ok [02:30] us3r51 (n=Devoid@117.200.63.252) joined ##slackware. [02:31] oh well. thanks for checking [02:31] mancha : # cp /root/Desktop/flash10/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [02:31] bash-3.1# [02:31] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:31] now, not as root, as a normal user, fire up firefox and enjoy flash video [02:31] same as 12.2 stable it seems [02:32] echo $BASH_VERSION [02:32] 3.1.17(2)-release [02:32] mancha : thank you its now playing. i love you man you are the best [02:33] jigpp, hah, glad it worked. enjoy. [02:33] does anyone use cacti? [02:33] Nemeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-87-124.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] mancha : can you help me with the balls of the mouse? [02:33] mancha : i tried pkgtool and choose imsp2 [02:33] reboot not work [02:33] im trying to set cacti here but it does not monitor my net traffic. [02:34] what mouse is it? a trackball or something? [02:34] there is ball in the center [02:34] between right and left [02:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:34] i guess it imsp2 [02:34] i accidentally choose sp2 first menu [02:34] i have no idea, what make/model is it? [02:34] during installation [02:35] Emeau (i=1000@AMontsouris-158-1-87-124.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:35] INTEX optical mouse [02:35] i tried Genius optical mouse same thing [02:35] maybe because of sp2 that ive choosed [02:36] ok [02:36] no, if you changed it back then its fine [02:36] i will just re install slackware 12.2 [02:36] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:36] you need to edit the input device section of xorg.conf [02:36] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:36] nano xorg.conf has no letters there or words or phrases [02:37] or txt [02:37] it it blank [02:37] Action: TwinReverb is now going to try to burn a dvd-ram slackware-current installer [02:37] blank screen [02:37] not blank, empty. [02:37] nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:37] jigpp /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:38] i have slackware with ntfs-3g installed i have 3 ntfs partations and 2 ext3 i m thinking to convert ntfs partations to ext3 <-> I jus wana know if there is any advantages of ext3 over ntfs ? like better performance ? [02:39] yes better [02:40] is there ne direct way to convert them to ext3 or i have to reformat them ? [02:40] reformat [02:40] mancha : i think i found it [02:40] us3r51: you're going to have to backup the data and reformat [02:40] mancha : # The available mouse protocols types that you can set below are: [02:40] # Auto BusMouse GlidePoint GlidePointPS/2 IntelliMouse IMPS/2 [02:40] us3r51, advantages? like not being gaytarded? uh, i don't know the speed of ntfs in benchmarks, but you can find that online and compare it to ext3 [02:40] mancha : # Logitech Microsoft MMHitTab MMSeries Mouseman MouseManPlusPS/2 [02:40] # MouseSystems NetMousePS/2 NetScrollPS/2 OSMouse PS/2 SysMouse [02:40] # ThinkingMouse ThinkingMousePS/2 Xqueue [02:40] Option "Protocol" "PS/2" [02:41] okay thanks [02:41] us3r51, granted ext4 is going to outperform ext3 on most things so maybe you should compare ext4 to ntfs instead [02:41] ill remove "PS/2" [02:41] jigpp, when you say ball in the middle what the hell are you talking about? a scroll wheel? [02:41] and change it to IMPS/2 right? [02:41] no, leave it as is [02:41] yes [02:41] huh? [02:41] is there a way to tell which video driver is in active use? [02:41] mancha : its a ball that you slide and slide your finger [02:41] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-164.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] fiyawerx, glxinfo [02:41] not sure how to explain this thing [02:41] english problem and grammar [02:41] but i will google pictures [02:42] not a wheel? [02:42] wait a sec [02:42] GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 [02:42] there is clickers right? left click -- ball -- right click [02:42] clickers - or click thing [02:43] morning [02:43] Quiznos : you mean ill remove "PS/2" and change IMPS/2 ? [02:43] ok, i get that, but i don't know what this ball is, i hope a scroll wheel [02:43] slackytude : good afternoon :) [02:44] Imps/2 maybe? [02:44] hmm GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer [02:44] jigpp no, prefix "IM" to PS/2 [02:44] or is it a mini trackball? [02:44] i cannt mozilla [02:44] i accidentally close the terminal [02:44] and it hunged here [02:44] using terminal no work [02:45] ok killing now works [02:45] us3r51, http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765 [02:46] k [02:46] thanks [02:46] ext4 clearly outperforms ntfs [02:46] mancha : this is the ball of mouse [02:46] http://www.fcipl.in/images/Products/intex_mm_mouse.jpg [02:46] same with the ball of my mouse here [02:46] however, remember that ntfs is not a native filesystem to linux, as ext4 is not to windows. using filesystems over compatibility layers may skew benchmark results [02:47] there is left and right click [02:47] and in the center is the ball or its like a cart of the tire of the hourse [02:48] try adding this to the Input section: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [02:48] thats the "wheel" i was referring to earlier [02:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [02:49] also change the line with PS to: Option "Protocol" "auto" [02:51] done [02:51] reboot right? [02:51] restart x is enough [02:51] you should not be rebooting your linux hardly ever, maybe after kernel compiles. [02:54] or after your cat walked over your keyboard and caused a kernel panic [02:55] get that damned cat!!! [02:55] mancha : sudo restart x is not working [02:55] command not found [02:55] wait 1950s; get that darned cat [02:55] su restart x too [02:55] jigpp: are you in a console now? [02:55] alisonkenlnoc yup [02:55] ctrl-alt-backspace [02:55] just type "startx" [02:56] can a cat do a pincher movement? [02:56] heh [02:56] alisonken1noc : startx [02:56] xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.3797 [02:56] jigpp: mancha reminded me - "is X running now?" if yes, then what mancha said. if X is not running, then "startx" [02:56] Fatal server error: [02:56] Server is already active for display 0 [02:56] If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock [02:56] Channel flood from jigpp -- kicking [02:56] and start again. [02:56] jigpp kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:56] nobs [02:56] jigpp (n=jigps@121.97.98.88) joined ##slackware. [02:56] sorry [02:56] Fatal server error: [02:56] s'ok [02:56] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:56] Server is already active for display 0 [02:57] killall -9g X [02:57] iiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi [02:57] jigpp, ctrl-alt-backspace [02:57] [02:57] jigpp (n=jigps@121.97.98.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:57] done. [02:57] ha [02:57] heh [02:57] quttutututuuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu [02:57] i've learned the -g on killall does a good job. [02:57] kinda like "check if the phone is plugged in by pulling cord out of phone while talking to tech support on phone" [02:58] peeeoopeeeoopeeeoo [02:58] yea [02:58] i think he was in a term [02:58] "you're such a nob" [02:58] does he know how to startx? or does he auto-boot to X? [02:58] obviously [02:58] hope so [02:58] this is the question... [02:58] we'll see [02:58] bets? [02:58] 2bits on fail [02:58] if he was reading, then he would have seen "startx" not "su restart x" :) [02:58] googoojojoobgoogoojojoobgoogoojojoob [02:58] hopefully [02:58] pragma_ feelin ok? [02:58] $10 on reboot [02:59] hex? [02:59] lol [02:59] 10h [02:59] q10 [02:59] or is that 10q? [02:59] yeah i bet he reboots too, oh well, thats fast anyways [02:59] Q [02:59] q10lol10hq10lol10h [02:59] - /2 [02:59] jigppps (n=jigpp@121.97.98.88) joined ##slackware. [02:59] 10Q*2 for US (close enough) [02:59] the mouse is workingnow [02:59] nice commands there [02:59] i think i figered out a syntax for assembler text that can allow one write one tool and handle many multiple targets. [02:59] new to me [02:59] yay [03:00] jigppps: did you reboot, or just run "startx"? [03:00] excellent. now you have flash and a working ball. [03:00] mancha Quinos alisonken1noc dive thanks alot [03:00] answer daQuestion [03:00] we got a bet going [03:01] reboot or startx/ [03:01] alisonken1noc : i just cntl+alt+backspice [03:01] i think he cmd'd [03:01] alisonken1noc : i just cntl+alt+backspace* [03:01] unless linuxbios is installed [03:01] and then startx? [03:01] ctrl+alt+backspace [03:01] us3r51 (n=Devoid@117.200.63.252) left irc: "Leaving" [03:01] i didnt start the startx [03:01] the mouse balls is working now [03:01] a dm then [03:01] ball* [03:01] X started by itself? [03:01] how did you restart X after ctrl-alt-backspace? [03:02] ok - you're using a graphical login manager then? [03:02] i love you mancha [03:02] he so 1-minded track [03:02] mancha all i did is ctrl+alt+space [03:02] he aint lagd [03:02] then black screen [03:02] ok - sounds like he's setup for runlevel 4 [03:02] then type startx [03:02] yea [03:02] then i go here in desktop [03:02] oh, yeah default X runlevel [03:02] or not heh [03:02] but we can only infer [03:02] lol [03:02] he wont tell us [03:02] ok - he did startx [03:02] rofl [03:03] nop he dint startx [03:03] [00:03:30] then type startx [03:03] 3 losing bets [03:03] jigppps [03:03] let me try ctrl+alt+backspce [03:03] jigppps (n=jigpp@121.97.98.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:03] lol [03:03] dam [03:03] he did it again [03:03] this is unreal [03:03] :) [03:03] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:03] he's so one track minded [03:03] not a native english speaker from the tone [03:03] its really funi [03:03] Hi all. [03:03] yo [03:03] yea, i think you're right [03:03] reganeshix [03:04] I tried to fix my KDE 3.5.10 [03:04] did it fix you instead? [03:04] beat you up> [03:04] jigppppsd (n=jigppp@121.97.98.88) joined ##slackware. [03:04] Weird behavior: konqueror hangs when I click the 'home' button. It does not hang when I try to open other directories for file management. [03:04] yes two commands [03:04] i still have no idea how he is restarting X. but i need to do $OTHER-THINGS now so i won't ever know [03:04] does it know `home'? [03:04] It hangs with my home directory [03:04] ctrl+alt+backspace - 1 [03:04] startx -2 [03:04] jigppppsd quit with the `p's [03:04] thats it [03:05] However, I can work on it easily on the CLI [03:05] jigppppsd [03:05] jigppppsd !!! DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION? [03:05] LOOK HERE [03:05] :) [03:05] Quiznos i dont get the think [03:05] jipp, good, thats a good way to do it...we were worried you would reboot to start up again. [03:05] you want me to remove the p? [03:05] ok [03:05] Nick change: jigppppsd -> jigg [03:05] jigppppsd do this in tern: grep defa /etc/inittab [03:06] jigg do this in tern: grep defa /etc/inittab [03:06] okj ok [03:06] jigg then show one line copied here. [03:06] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Morning all [03:06] hi [03:06] bash-3.1$ grep defa /etc/inittab # These are the default runlevels in Slackware: [03:07] "the world is full of foreigners [03:07] Quiznos # 3 = multiuser mode (default Slackware runlevel) [03:07] jigg do this in tern: grep -w initdefault /etc/inittab [03:07] id:3:initdefault: bash-3.1# [03:07] appzer0 (n=appzer0@lns-bzn-43-82-249-151-2.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] there tyvm [03:07] it's settled, he typed "startx" [03:07] ok [03:07] he's in 3 [03:07] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Client Quit [03:07] yea ok mancha [03:07] wait [03:07] jig; run, pidof xdm kdm gdm [03:08] bash-3.1$ grep -w initdefault /etc/inittab id:3:initdefault: [03:08] kk [03:08] bash-3.1$ pidof xdm kdm gdm bash: pidof: command not found [03:08] /sbin/pidof [03:08] im loving it the "ctrl+alt+backspace [03:08] that really should be in a bin/ [03:08] can i do it again? hehehe [03:08] lol [03:08] no! :) [03:09] heh [03:09] ok :) [03:09] not yet [03:09] so tempting [03:09] jig; run, /sbin/pidof xdm kdm gdm [03:09] done with /sbin/pidof [03:09] yes [03:09] done also /sbin/pidof xdm kdm gdm [03:09] any numbers returned? [03:09] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] can i do it again the ctl+alt+backspace hehehehe very nice its fast [03:10] not yet [03:10] any output from pidof? [03:10] no numbers [03:10] bash-3.1$ /sbin/pidof xdm kdm gdm [03:10] ok; you can now. :) [03:10] bash-3.1$ [03:10] ok ty [03:10] do ctrl-alt-backspace again! [03:10] hehe nice [03:10] mancha ok; its yours. [03:10] the best [03:10] sec [03:10] jigg (n=jigppp@121.97.98.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] mancha: sicko :) [03:11] lo [03:11] +l [03:11] somoene should farm: i love this crtl-alt-backspace / can i do it again / so tempting... [03:11] jig is weird [03:12] noobs are funny sometimes [03:12] jiggg (n=jiggg@121.97.98.88) joined ##slackware. [03:12] nods [03:12] cool [03:12] im back [03:12] how did you get back? [03:12] indeed [03:12] can i do it again one last time? [03:12] its your box. [03:12] no [03:12] using startx [03:12] you can do it as many times as you want to continue killing your screen [03:12] first is ctrl+alt+backspace [03:12] Quiznos: 10Q please :) [03:12] startx 0 2nd [03:12] sorry, not allowed [03:12] ok [03:12] sorry - IOU [03:12] startx x* [03:13] then start chatx [03:13] you've used up your quota of killing X [03:13] ok dive [03:13] i will not [03:13] very fast ibn backing here [03:13] i like it [03:14] firefox [03:14] oppss [03:15] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [03:16] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-206645.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:16] i'm thinking that Schroedinger was wrong about the cat. [03:16] and how's that [03:16] we are all made of up "quantum" material (whatever it is) it is the primary "element" of everything. [03:17] he was, and he wasn't [03:17] ok - time to start earning my pay [03:17] therefore; how can a quantum "element" become "unstuck" and travel independently of all the rest of quanta? [03:17] hehe [03:17] we dont exist in 2d or 3d. we exist in quanta "field" [03:18] 3d and 3d are our deminishment of existence. [03:18] 2d and 3d * [03:18] slackware 12.2 working in 3rd nic not in builtin nic nice [03:18] make sense? [03:18] Quinos no problem right? even if i have net in nic2 or nic1 or nic3? [03:18] for now im connected in nic3 [03:19] i want to switch to ni1 because there is ram there [03:19] jiggg i guess. [03:19] ahhh ok [03:19] Quiznos, did you get that from the internet? 8-P [03:19] nop; my own pondering. [03:20] too much timecube reading ? :D [03:20] lol; nop [03:20] dont even know what that is [03:20] i am a real arm-chair physicist [03:21] ponderer [03:21] you're an arm chair dreamer [03:21] sure. that works [03:21] i probe God's works. [03:21] i don't call myself an engineer because i figured out a way to install a different alternator on my car [03:21] why not? [03:21] because i'm not worthy of the title? [03:21] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:22] then that is your own self-imposed limitation. [03:22] adios [03:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:22] gn [03:23] i also probe the mind of God. now that's a BIG place!!! [03:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-164.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:26] Quiznos: http://www.timecube.com/ <-- and be ready for an eyefull of really oddball statements [03:28] hehe [03:28] I can use synaptic in slackware ? : ) [03:28] should be able to [03:28] fzza3a : i doubt that [03:28] i dont know the word synaptic [03:29] I know it as the "synaptics touch pad driver" [03:29] ken, ok [03:29] jiggg, http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ [03:30] ah [03:30] not recommended [03:30] cool [03:30] if you _must_ use apt, then slapt-get is the slackware version that 's totally unsupported here [03:31] jiggg, pclinuxos ues synaptic form rpm packages , can do like that in slack ? [03:31] for* [03:32] i dont know [03:32] im new noob [03:32] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] fzza3a : google says : http://www.antionline.com/archive/index.php/t-253694.html [03:33] hmm no x runnin [03:33] March 20th, 2004, 05:42 PM [03:33] Swaret (http://www.swaret.org/index.php) is the updater of choice for most Slack-types. This Mini-Tutorial (http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248625) should help you. For installation of new packages, you can use apt-get or do it by hand as most slack people do. :D [03:33] damn that must be old [03:33] package manager of choice for slackers is slackpkg [03:34] oh i see [03:34] jiggg: since you're a new noob you might want to stop blindly pasting unsupported advice. [03:34] that article is at least 5 years old (2004) [03:34] jiggg, see it ! [03:34] jiggg: slapt-get or slackpkg, choose one [03:34] i think i dont need to upgrade my slack12.2 [03:34] i dont know what to get [03:34] jiggg, why ? [03:34] not to mention that post the person was on slackware 9.0 [03:35] fzza3a: possibly because it's his first foray into linux/slackware? [03:35] if you burn files what do you guys used? [03:35] i use gnomebaker on ubuntu [03:35] k3b [03:35] you will want to update for security patches, de minimus. [03:35] using kde deskto [03:35] damn, slackpkg is really verbose. [03:35] as my calc3 teacher once said in his broken english/russian accent 'you have bad intuition!' [03:36] isnt it a beauty? [03:36] lol [03:36] nice [03:36] SiegeX why did he say taht? [03:36] cause everybody failed the midterm =) [03:36] lol [03:37] eewww [03:37] i had a terrible calc1 techer; i never comphrended it. but i do alittle now [03:37] she was that bad; hs math i did well on. [03:37] she ruined univ math for me [03:38] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:38] she was THAT sexy? [03:38] not really; i wish. [03:39] back on topic. If you don't like the verbosity of slackpkg, give slapt-get a try. Its my pref after trying both, its also alot more scriptable. Just make sure you use the 'OFFICIAL' tag on sources so it matches slackpkg functionality. [03:40] ok ty [03:40] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:40] splain "official"? [03:40] I think in the work of the GNOME distro From Slackware, what is the best? Slackware current or Slackware 13 or Slackware 12.2 ? [03:41] sup peeps [03:41] hi [03:41] similar to "UNIVERSE" and unofficial packages in the *buntu group [03:41] "all approved"? [03:41] inversely [03:41] "all approved pkgs"? [03:41] so, no betas, alphas, testings? [03:41] or extras? [03:42] i'd rather see all that stuff [03:42] it will update the package as long as the version strings differ, even if its a downgrade or what have you [03:42] fzza3a: since slackware doesn't officially support Gnome, it would probably have to be 12.2 for now until some months after 13.0 comes out (still in RC2 status atm) [03:42] ok SiegeX [03:42] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:42] http://software.jaos.org/git/slapt-get/plain/FAQ.html #57 [03:42] ok [03:42] vinegaroon (n=sam@203.184.61.254) joined ##slackware. [03:42] i think i have slapt already [03:43] actually a combo of slackpkg/sbopkg is all you'll ever need [03:43] two is never enuf [03:43] ya, i use that combo but s/slackpkg/slapt-get [03:44] whoohoo! Laptop HDD on standard HDD configuration! http://imagebin.org/59381 [03:44] ultimately, rsync and the pkgtool set is all you *really* need. could even use ftp or wget instead of rsync too [03:44] lf4: what - not using ductape? [03:44] lf4: lol i actually have the adapter brackets [03:44] bad geek [03:44] 2.5" to 3.5" bay bracket [03:45] it's rad [03:45] alisonken1noc: NO ducttape around :( [03:45] lf4: minus 5 geek points for no duct tape [03:45] antiwire: lol wish we did but work is cheep lol they don't even know we removed the HDD from a laptop. [03:45] lo [03:45] haha [03:46] They refuse to get one more gig of ram and a new HDD that just died so I improvised ;) [03:46] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: "leaving" [03:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:52] neat, found sbin/hddtemp; hda=39C, hdb=cdrom, sda=45C (boot/root) [03:52] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:58] this is where i first install http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/install_slackware_5.html [04:01] ph (i=5a501582@gateway/web/freenode/x-148a04bd3859242f) joined ##slackware. [04:03] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-00d544b2c91f8d40) joined ##slackware. [04:03] there are any thing like slapt-get(http://software.jaos.org/) ? [04:05] slapt-get is the "like" [04:05] hm, im itching to get my hands on that groovy sheevaplug :/ [04:06] hey, I formatted my external HD for ext4, then I needed to use it on 12.2 without ext4 so I used tune2fs, and now 13RC1 throws this error in dmesg hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [04:06] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] e3 != e4 [04:06] use the proper mkfs [04:07] Hydr0p0nX (n=hydr@68.113.115.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:07] and get e4 into the kernel. [04:07] it's not in /dev [04:07] how can I do anything with that [04:07] what isnt? [04:08] Err, what's e3 and e4? [04:08] e[x][t] abbrev'd [04:08] the HD didn't show up in /dev/ [04:08] Spend 0.1 seconds typing "xt" then. [04:08] ext4 would _not_ be in /dev - since ext4 is a partition format, not a device [04:08] use lsusb [04:08] ccfreak2k conservation of energy, kinetic and dynamic. [04:09] At the expense of people trying to figure out what the fuck you're talking about. [04:09] most know. you're the few :) [04:09] lol [04:09] my god, the device isn't there [04:09] rofl [04:09] it is a approved abbrev. [04:10] oh oh power spike [04:10] http://www.google.com/search?q=e4&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [04:10] I don't see ext4 anywhere in these results. [04:10] christmas lights blinkd and radio too [04:10] Citation needed. [04:11] I can't do anything with the device if it has no block device file in /dev [04:11] What if it's a character device? [04:11] newdep (n=pedon@3E33C9F4.dslaccess.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [04:12] newdep (n=pedon@3E33C9F4.dslaccess.aol.com) left ##slackware. [04:12] try unplugging /replugging the drive in the usb port [04:12] then look at dmesg [04:12] I did, I already sent you the message [04:12] hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [04:13] http://pastebin.com/d5b028352 [04:14] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-6-248-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) got netsplit. [04:14] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) got netsplit. [04:14] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got netsplit. [04:14] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) got netsplit. [04:14] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) got netsplit. [04:14] Orion_ (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [04:14] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) got netsplit. [04:14] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got netsplit. [04:14] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) got netsplit. [04:14] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) got netsplit. [04:14] CygnusX1_ (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) got netsplit. [04:14] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) got netsplit. [04:14] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) got netsplit. [04:14] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) got netsplit. [04:14] Jean (n=jean@jean.xen.prgmr.com) got netsplit. [04:14] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) got netsplit. [04:14] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) got netsplit. [04:14] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) got netsplit. [04:14] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [04:14] dramz (n=dramz@174.81-166-32.customer.lyse.net) got netsplit. [04:15] is there any thing like slapt-get? [04:15] apt-get? [04:16] either tune2fs did something wrong with it, but it is meant to be used for reading devices formatted on different format which our os doesn't support [04:16] you need to be more specific [04:16] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-6-248-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] Orion_ (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [04:16] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) returned to ##slackware. 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[04:18] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:18] you have the ext4 module compiled? [04:18] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:18] try to make an initrd [04:18] 13.0RC1 [04:19] I formatted the HD here for ext4 [04:19] then used id on 12.0 through tune2fs [04:19] to read it there cause there's no ext4 support [04:19] and now I took it back to 13.0RC1 [04:19] and the result is in pastbin [04:20] you can install the kernel source [04:20] and compile the module [04:20] what module ? [04:20] ext4 [04:20] I have it [04:20] I''m on 13.0RC1 [04:20] moirn folks [04:20] hrad: olde ;) [04:20] :) [04:21] morning BP{k} [04:21] BP{k}: please help, I'm trying to explain a plain issue here and nobody underestand what i'm trying to say after 20 minutes [04:22] Seems pretty straight forward to me. [04:22] on 13.0RC1 I formatted HD for ext4, then I took it home to 12.0 and used tune2fs to read the HD there, but after I used it on 13.0RC1 again, I got this http://pastebin.com/d5b028352 [04:22] His USB device is malfunctioning. [04:23] I used it maybe 20 times [04:23] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [04:23] maybe tune2fs damaged it in some way [04:23] but tune2fs is meant for this purpose [04:24] Hi there [04:25] what is the slackware issue report address ? I guess that it would be interesting for slackware people before the final release [04:25] hrad, it's not a filesystem issue. [04:25] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.158.135.0) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:25] its not a slack issue [04:25] hrad: does it malfunction both on your 12.2 and 13.1 machine? [04:25] I'm here with a NIS server on FBSD, and want to get a slack client to read out from the NIS maps. Everything works fine with +:::::: in the passwd-file. But I want to use netgroups to restrict access to some machines. On FBSD this works fine, but slack seems to not even load entries like +@users::::::: [04:26] tune2fs isn't going to cause that issue. the issue in that paste is plenty of layers below the fs [04:26] any idea? [04:26] BP{k}: only 13 [04:27] hrad: did you try a different USB port [04:27] ? [04:27] ((but, at this point I am likely to agree with the rest of the channel that this is an USB issue rather than a tune2fs / filesystem issue. [04:28] but I was using the device many times successfuly before I used the tune2fs tool [04:28] hey guys when is slackware 13 gona release? [04:28] hrad: have you tried plugging it into a different USB port? [04:28] bnhashmi: When it is ready(tm) [04:28] it doesn't matter, I just won't use it ever [04:29] then why are you asking us for help? [04:29] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:29] hrad, the messages you pasted from the log have nothing to do with the filesystem. [04:29] it would be cool marketing to release it 13/8 8) [04:29] because it easier to say that it's slackware's fault, then to admit your hardware might be fubarred? [04:29] bnhashmi: my bet is before christmas [04:30] hum nice [04:30] alisonken1noc: I noticed you tactically left out *Which* christmas ;) [04:30] :) [04:30] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.28) joined ##slackware. [04:30] i was expacting in this month ;) [04:30] bnhashmi: it's within the realm of possibilities [04:30] bnhashmi: we're not *buntu with a schedule [04:30] ccfreak2k: I didn't talk about filesystem, I just explained the conditions [04:30] Or Debian, or Red Hat.. [04:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] (or rather, Pat's not running *buntu with a schedule :) ) [04:30] hrad, you insist that tune2fs caused it, which it wouldn't. [04:31] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [04:31] antiwire: would you have a problem sharing your pam packages with me? [04:31] tell me how we can add passwd to lilo.conf [04:31] like grub [04:31] chopp: nope, but i can't do it right now. I can put them somewhere safe tomorrow though [04:32] jiggg (n=jiggg@121.97.98.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:32] antiwire: awsome, thank you [04:32] chopp: they take a little explaining but I've tried to make them as safe and sane as possible [04:32] bnhashmi: "man lilo.conf" <-- look for "password=" option [04:34] antiwire: yeah I believe it's going to be quite a challange that might take me awhile, but I'll get it figured. [04:34] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:35] I don't know but it is pretty obvious to me [04:35] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [04:37] hrad: Yeah, it's pretty obvious to us too. [04:38] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [04:45] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.226) joined ##slackware. [04:49] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.226) left irc: Client Quit [04:50] hrad, how exactly did you read it through tune2fs? [04:50] stunix_ (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: ""Remember that death is not the end but only a transition." -- Dream Theater, song "Fatal Tragedy"." [04:55] BP{k}: I can't say now I would have to look at history at home [04:58] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [04:58] hi [04:58] hey missyjane :) How are thigs? [04:58] s/thigs/things/ [04:59] hrad: then probably talk to some others when you're there.. so far .. Ia mgoing with a usb issue. [04:59] Action: init[1] waves o/ to slackers [04:59] lf4, just saw wolverine origin [04:59] Action: lf4 waves to init[1] [04:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [05:00] missyjane: How was it? I haven't seen that one yet. [05:00] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-00d544b2c91f8d40) left irc: "Page closed" [05:00] lf4: wow, today you managed to use my nick properly [05:00] i loved it [05:00] missyjane: ;) [05:00] init[1], :) [05:01] init[1]: :P haha [05:01] Thats good missyjane I'll have to see it some time soon. [05:01] Action: init[1] wow first time a female slacker said hi to me [05:01] init[1]: thats because the other person isn't in here lol but :( now I will always type ini for your name [05:02] \o/ yay [05:02] init[1]: how do you know? [05:02] lf4: lucky that there is a lf5....n,or else it would have been pita [05:03] s/is a/is no/ [05:03] lf4: know what ? [05:03] init[1]: lol true [05:03] can i pm you init[1] ? [05:03] omg ! ,... sure missyjane :) [05:04] Action: init[1] yay ...... [05:04] NYS SHOOS .. wan 2 cybar?? [05:04] init[1]: how do you know she was the first female to say hi? [05:04] lol quasar [05:04] lf4: are you by chance a female slacker? [05:05] Action: init[1] waiting for missyjane's PM, [05:05] init[1]: you need to ask fire|bird, but assumtions aren't always good. The nice thing is my real name is bi-gender. [05:09] lf4: your nickname wouldn't be "Pat" would it? [05:09] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:09] I love it when I get bored so I go to google and type in "cool things to do in slackware" .. and the first thing that comes up is "ZOMG YOU CAN CHANGE TEH COLORS OF YOUR COMMAND PROMPT!!" [05:10] alisonken1noc: nope [05:10] lf4: ok - forgot the :) [05:11] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [05:11] quasar: wow 10 colors thats 2 more then centos and 11 more then ubuntu [05:11] lol alisonken1noc I'm just confused about the whole pat name thing from SNL since I never watch tv. [05:12] pat is a generic non-specific-gender character that looks like a chubby nerd [05:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:13] lol @ alisonken1noc [05:13] lf4, was actually looking for an idea for a shell script or (simple) program I could write :( [05:14] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-83.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:14] there was even a movie about Pat "Here's Pat" or somesuch [05:14] Action: init[1] well my name is sexy with it comes to UNIX :P [05:14] quasar: Ahh I see [05:15] init[1]: I thought that was init[0] ;) [05:15] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:15] lf4: all the run levels are registered to my account,how does that sound ? [05:16] :> [05:16] lol [05:16] int[n] 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 [05:16] s/int/init/ [05:17] init[1]: ahh but unless you use them you will lose them ;) [05:17] lf4: are you serious ? [05:17] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [05:17] Hello! [05:18] hi [05:19] init[1]: /msg nickserv help gorup [05:19] hi shik4nt4z4 [05:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.84.156) joined ##slackware. [05:20] lf4: i have grouped all those nicks to mine ,that is what i said few seconds ago :) [05:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.84.156) left irc: Client Quit [05:20] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-6-248-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:21] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-71-198-187-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] init[1]: yeah I know I have a few nicks grouped to me but if you don't use them from time to time they get released. Read the second paragraph /msg nickserv help group [05:22] lf4: aaa, now i get ya [05:22] quasar, why shell script? [05:22] ph (i=5a501582@gateway/web/freenode/x-148a04bd3859242f) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [05:22] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-71-198-187-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] jonsmith1982, because I'm learning c++ amd javem [05:22] haven't come up with any new ideas to progress my learning [05:23] Nick change: init[1] -> init[3] [05:24] quasar: make a simple shell program that will allow you to select the foreground and background colors for the shell. :) [05:24] bah.. simple [05:24] quasar: lol you said learning... I don't know how far you got so I figured start off simple :) [05:25] I'm learning c++ [05:25] I'm good with bash scripting [05:25] quasar: not bash scripting I'm talking about a binary that you run. [05:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-248-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:25] quasar: how about a bash version of mc? [05:25] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-175-85-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:26] midnight commander? [05:26] I haven't used that in ages o.O [05:26] an bash use ncurses? [05:26] can* [05:27] you should.. new ver kicks butt [05:27] no, i would have thught. [05:29] jonsmith1982: yes [05:29] it can [05:29] depends on the console settting, though [05:29] bash scripting via dialog [05:33] with a "run" command to see the output real time? lol [05:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.84.156) joined ##slackware. [05:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:34] ? [05:34] dialog presents a screen and waits for input [05:34] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [05:35] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [05:35] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:16] but only 900MB [07:16] are not free [07:16] i made a very lite install [07:17] maybe i have forgotten some libraries [07:17] whats your swap partition size? [07:17] 60Mb [07:17] also "df" and see if your inode usage is taking up records [07:18] it's okay, i have more than 1Gb left on my / [07:18] and no swap is used, i have some ram free [07:18] did you use df? [07:18] yes [07:19] and I have no MAKEDEV in /proc [07:19] ok - the actual entry you want is the "Use%" column - that's the one that tells you about inode usage [07:19] udev and hal have taken over MAKEDEV [07:19] <50% [07:20] mknod is called by the udev scripts [07:20] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-206645.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:20] maybe i have forgotten a udev library [07:20] i made a very liht install [07:20] light* [07:22] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:24] how can i see the dependancies? [07:24] with ldd? 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[07:40] this makeshift pipe works pretty well.. 12mm socket, 2 bic pens and a little bit of hot glue [07:42] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-152-154-179.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:42] as long as you don't get down to the hotglue and think its the resin :) [07:43] nah, the screen is a safe distance from the hot glue :) [07:43] ph_: ldd works on binaries - not on scripts [07:43] ok [07:44] I google the qestion, but i can't fount the answer [07:44] found* [07:44] what packages did you install? [07:45] many packages [07:45] i can t say everything [07:45] but few librairies in fact [07:46] well, there's a bunch of libraries in l/ (that's L) that can be skipped (like qt gtk libs for X), but there's still a bunch that are needed [07:46] the problem is the "not enough space on disk" issue, though [07:47] but i have enouth disk an memory [07:47] i don't understand the problem [07:47] wobbles (n=huntsman@59.101.140.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:47] you can also get that if there's not enough inodes left as well even though you're not using all of the space [07:48] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-158-91.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:48] think of the inodes as an index card drawer - you may have empty shelves, but unless there's room in the index card drawer, you can't add any more books to your shelf [07:48] but after booting, i can create new files [07:48] that is a good one then [07:49] it is just during boot tiime [07:49] time* [07:50] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:50] which model is your thinkpad? how old is it? [07:50] there's been issues with thinkpads before [07:51] thinkpad 560* [07:51] really old [07:51] do you think i should install an older version [07:51] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:52] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:52] 560, 560E, 560X or 560Z [07:53] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:54] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:55] 560 [07:56] http://www.members.shaw.ca/dan.mckay/TP560Slk.html [07:56] this is for an older version of slackware (9.1), but the general instructions may help [07:58] thank you [07:58] i found this tuto yet [07:59] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:00] it is not really helpful [08:01] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:02] which version of slack are you trying to install? [08:02] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:03] 12.2 [08:04] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:04] i want a recent version to have the cisco aironet kernel module [08:04] (2.6) [08:05] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) joined ##slackware. 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[08:31] morning [08:31] noon [08:31] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:31] Nick change: fiyawerx_ -> fiyawerx [08:31] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:31] evening [08:32] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:32] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:33] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] morning [08:34] wow, that was a quick day. [08:34] just further proves the timecube theory. [08:35] fail! correct answer is night :) [08:35] 06:36:54 [08:35] ph_: np [08:35] superGear: you're in the same location. [08:36] as who? [08:36] who's in MDT? [08:37] Action: lf4 = +7GMT [08:37] where? [08:37] Ut [08:37] i'm +8 [08:37] I'm not a moron [08:37] err Mormon [08:38] Action: superGear is in CO ;P [08:38] lol superGear [08:40] lf4: You must be an uneducated academic fool. You know that there are 4 24 hour time zones that exists with in the timecube right? go read up, if you know how. http://timecube.com :P [08:40] /sarcasm [08:40] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.174.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] superGear: lf4 Are you both in Utah? [08:41] agentc0re: lol I started reading that junk and got to about oh the fourth line. :P [08:41] lf4: LOL [08:41] agentc0re: superGear = CO [08:41] Ah [08:41] lf4: Where in Utah? Im in Utah too. [08:41] hahaha [08:41] 4rth line? you missed all fun stuff :( [08:41] the earth has 4 sides [08:41] agentc0re: SLC [08:42] lf4: same. [08:42] everything has 2 sides [08:42] agentc0re: township? [08:42] lf4: Rosepark. [08:42] fiyawerx: cube [08:42] inside, outside [08:42] up down [08:42] or top bottom [08:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:43] agentc0re: Oh wow my co-works mentioned that place once. I haven't lived here for vary long. <1 year [08:43] and there are 4 lights [08:43] timecube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjNa7nHFju4 [08:43] lf4: why did you move here? [08:44] agentc0re: So my mother could be closer to family when my father passed away. [08:44] i've been using blender, fixing face normals, very tedious [08:45] dont bullshit me about sides :P [08:45] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] interesting accent he's got - possible redneck? [08:45] agentc0re: ^^^ [08:45] alisonken1noc: trying to sell a book [08:45] alisonken1noc: hehe. [08:46] Probably. [08:46] spook: reread the question again :) [08:46] lf4: Do you know where St Marks hospital is? [08:47] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:48] agentc0re: not really, the only hospital I remember seeing is the one on state st. [08:49] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [08:51] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:52] lf4: Ah. Well i work there. speaking of work, i need to head out and check up on an update before i go fishing today. Laters. [08:53] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] agentc0re: Oh cool :) I work in South Jordan. [08:53] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] if not, then I will once again bug my old friends on the gentoo forums (and probably get banned again) [09:24] :) [09:24] linuxquestions.org [09:24] www.slackwarehelp.org [09:25] slackwarhelp looks brand new (default phpbb theme and all). [09:26] alisonken1noc: do you run those boards? [09:26] no - just a goole "slackware forum" popped it up :) [09:27] google* [09:27] luceroz, http://www.slackware.com/support/ <-- linuxquestions.org [09:27] "slackware official forum" brings up LQ :P [09:27] quite a few slackware team members will occasionally answer questions there [09:28] no doubt, I would have done that too, but I was wondering were people in _here_ like to go. I asked because I see good quality help in here all the time [09:28] thanks to all [09:28] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:28] usually when I have a question I just ask in here lol [09:28] after searching, of course :p [09:29] quasar: well I would too, but this time I am in a part of linux that I don't know anything about, so it would waste everyones time [09:29] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:29] quasar: and i'm not infront of my machine anyway [09:32] luceroz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ [09:34] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Elektro (n=Elektro@208.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [09:37] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. 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I am using slackware 12.2 and I did #make oldconfig&&make&&make modules&&make modules_install&&make and the resulting kernel that I got gave a panic. [09:57] the last argument to make was install :) [09:57] JiMMyJaKAzz, pkgtool is the package manager, and it does not handle downloading or appendices like yum [09:58] JiMMyJaKAzz, slackware does have a 'packager' (search for pkgtool) but it doesn't download/etc [09:58] edman007, I see... so basically to find a stable tgz and run the installpkg tool... correct? [09:58] slackpkg [09:58] is slackpkg in 12.2? (I went form 11 to -current lol) [09:59] JiMMyJaKAzz, slackpkg for anything in the distro, and i usually use a slackbuild for other things [09:59] quasar, yes slackpkg can be the trick [09:59] anyone guys.. [09:59] edman007, ok cool [09:59] any suggested mirrors you think is stable for slackpkg? [10:00] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:00] ga_bash, not enough information was given.. "gave a kernel panic" doesn't tell us a whole lot [10:00] ga_bash: I don't see a "make install" in your list [10:00] you installed the modules, but not the kernel [10:00] alisonken1noc, the last one is make install. :) [10:00] did you also update your lilo? [10:01] ro use the new kernel [10:01] alisonken1noc, I ran lilo from the prompt and it said that new kernel added Linux * [10:01] go_bash, do you have experience in updating a kernel? [10:01] you also have to add the new kernel to /etc/lilo.conf before running lilo [10:02] alisonken1noc, oh the new kernel was overwritten on the older one in the lilo.conf as at the lilo prompt I got only one kernel option and it gave panic.. :( [10:03] If i'm not mistaken you need to copy the new bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz [10:04] you have to make sure that /etc/lilo.conf uses the correct entries for the kernel as well [10:04] as well as an initrd if needed [10:04] mrselfpwn, but I dint do so and it seems to have overwritten the older kernel image.. [10:04] nah, you can name it whatever you want.. I name mine bzImage-(month)-(day)-(year) [10:05] then you need to boot into a livecd and fix it go_bash [10:05] quasar, doesnt make install overwrites the old entries. ? do I have to rename my new kernel before doing a "make install"? [10:05] ga_bash, slackbook covers all of these questions. [10:05] dunno.. I dont make install [10:05] quasar, then how do you go about it? [10:06] mrselfpwn, yes I checked that thanks :) [10:06] you RTFM [10:06] make then cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-(month)-(day)-(year) -- note: I dont do modules either [10:06] and lots of playing with kernel panics :) [10:07] to only select 1 mirrors but not more... can this be an issue if mirror in question is chosen but somehow down or non existant? [10:08] more than 1 mirror can help speed up things ... no? [10:08] quasar, why you dont do modules. ? :) [10:08] (also note that arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage is just a symlink to arch/x86/boot/bzImage.. so either one works) [10:08] ga_bash, personal prefrence [10:08] quasar, is there no need to do them? [10:09] for me and my machines? no [10:09] quasar, all right thanks for the info :) [10:10] I usually select the closest mirror I can find JiMMyJaKAzz. Sellecting high latency mirrors can actually slow you down. [10:10] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[10:21] hello [10:23] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] 'lo [10:28] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:29] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.126.18) joined ##slackware. [10:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [10:30] what is the maximum size of RAM that slackware can manage? [10:30] 11 [10:30] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-149-130-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] 64-bit slackware will handle alot(tm_ [10:32] thrice`: what about 32-bit? [10:32] between 3-4 GB [10:32] why not a fixed amount? [10:33] it depends on how you measure it. [10:34] 2^32 = 4*(1024)^3 -> 32 bit hw can address 4 gigs max [10:34] base 1000, or base 1024 [10:35] ok, thanks all! [10:36] Thursap: it's 4gb, but often all 4 won't show up [10:36] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:40] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: "brb" [10:40] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-yyzicwbkymkvxnuc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kdpaqlnfgsnohvph) joined ##slackware. [10:42] thrice`, to download 64-bit, do they have a iso for 64-bit dvd install? [10:42] I checked and only current is available. [10:42] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:42] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) joined ##slackware. [10:43] ewsubach (n=ewsubach@c-68-57-28-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) joined ##slackware. [10:43] JiMMyJaKAzz: 13 will be the first; there are -current iso's available (not official), but otherwise 13 :) [10:43] thrice`, ok than I wait for 13 [10:44] I have a 64-bit machine ready but cannot install it until iso comes out. [10:44] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [10:45] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:45] does the slackware install dvd include the sources that you need during the "source" part of the install? [10:46] huh? [10:47] Can somebody help me to make SlackBuild script? The problem is that program for which I want to make the script uses cmake instead of ./configure . [10:47] the dvd contains all the cds [10:47] ewsubach: which source part of the install? [10:47] the sources for everything are on the dvd, but they don't get installed by the installer (when/if you need the source, you copy it from the dvd) [10:48] any way to copy from dvd without exiting setup? [10:48] shik4nt4z4, which program? [10:49] Urchlay [10:49] shik4nt4z4: sure; slackbuilds.org has quite a few that use cmake [10:50] shik, just run cmake instead of configure in your script, be sure to pass the right flags to cake they look like: -DCMAKE_blah:bleh="bloo" [10:50] all of the KDE stuff uses cmake, iirc [10:51] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [10:51] mancha: OK. Thank you! [10:51] ewsubach: well, sort-of. You could wait for the install to finish, then pop over to the 2nd tty while your filesystems are still mounted and do a giant cp command... however, eh, why? [10:52] np [10:52] ewsubach: slackware isn't gentoo, it doesn't recompile the sources when you install packages (you could do that yourself, but it's really only useful if you're changing something, like patching the sources or upgrading to a new version of whatever it is) [10:53] also sometimes useful if you are eager to optimize for your particular cpu [10:53] Urchlay: this is my first time installing slackware [10:53] ee (n=alife@216.159.13.110) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Urchlay: website says "Selects the source media for the Slackware Linux distribution"... [10:54] oh [10:54] mancha: Actually that is the problem. Particular CPU config [10:54] thats not source as in source code [10:54] "source media" just means the dvd (or whatever you're copying packages from) [10:54] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) left irc: Connection timed out [10:54] right, it's source as in "copy from source to destination" [10:55] Urchlay: every time I choose DVD it doesn't do anything [10:55] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [10:55] doesn't do anything at all, or says it's scanning for the DVD, then fails to find it? [10:55] shik, my cpu config was regarding re-compiling source (the Urch - ewsubach thread) not for you :) [10:55] Hi there, I've been fighting trying to get slackware 12.2 to see my harddrive on my acer aspire one 751 for a few days now with no luck, and i've recently found out that slackware 11 WILL boot and see the harddrive, does anyone have any idea what may have changed and how i could go about fixing it? [10:56] Urchlay: nevermind...i paused my vm and unpaused it and now it recognizes the disk [10:56] Urchlay: must have been some weird glitch. sorry for the confusion (i'm kinda new to this). thanks for the help :) [10:57] with slackpkg install packagename.... how do you determine which package name.. example.. if its java, would the syntax be slackpkg install java? I've tried but package matching a negative. [10:57] ewsubach: fair enough [10:57] quasar, thrice` : Thank you! [10:58] ewsubach (n=ewsubach@c-68-57-28-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:58] JiMMyJaKAzz: try something like "slackpkg search java" [10:58] Urchlay, thnx [10:59] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] JiMMyJaKAzz: actually, the java package is called jre (for "java runtime environment"), I didn't use slackpkg to find that out though [11:00] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Action: init[3] waves o/ slackers , [11:02] hm, any slackpkg maintainers in here? I just tried "slackpkg search /usr/lib64/java/bin/java", which fails with error messages from grep. However "slackpkg search usr/lib64/java/bin/java" (no leading slash) works fine [11:02] feature request: if the argument passed to "slackpkg search" starts with a /, strip it off before using it [11:02] Urchlay, thanks [11:03] Action: init[3] pokes Urchlay and thank him for the tip :) [11:03] hey init[3], what happened to init[1] and [2] today? [11:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:04] Urchlay: i learned that if i don't use my other nicks some one might steal it some day! [11:04] fAu (i=1000@95.75.147.225) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Urchlay: btw did i mention that, i have all run levels registerd to my nick :D [11:05] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> m4lik [11:05] heh [11:05] haha init[3] you love that ;) [11:05] so if you're going to quit IRC, you change your nick to init[0] first? [11:05] at least you are on the good level now :) [11:06] lol Urchlay [11:06] and if you're about to disconnect/reconnect, you change it to init[6]? That makes sense I guess [11:06] init[3]: It is about not using the nick or not using account to which the nick is registered? [11:06] Urchlay: each day of the week will have different runlevels, since 7 days in a week ;> [11:07] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] init[3]: But there are init[8] and init[9] [11:07] m4lik: check out the second paragraph /msg nickserv help group [11:07] m4lik: Please note that grouped nicks expire separately,second para of ^ [11:08] i mean what lf4 just gave :) [11:09] Action: lf4 's bed time now... (09:00) [11:09] Right! I have read something similar but more confusing. Now everything is clear to me. [11:09] Thanks! [11:09] lf4: 09:00 PM or AM? [11:09] am [11:09] Nice! [11:09] m4lik: i'm not interested in runevel 9 and 8 :) [11:09] oh, i thought newer catalyst drivers didn't support the hd3200 integrated video card, interesting [11:10] :-) [11:10] m4lik: I work graveyard shift lol [11:10] i have a feeling in order to get linux on my htpc its going to need to be in a virtualbox on windows :( [11:10] init[3]: runlevel 8 is hyperspace, and runlevel 9 is time travel. Be careful with those! [11:10] Urchlay: which runlevel is plaid? [11:10] Urchlay: o_i [11:10] fiyawerx: runlevel L (for Ludicrous!) [11:11] Urchlay: :) [11:11] actually L is 50 in Roman numerals, so maybe it's runlevel 50... [11:12] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [11:12] hmm, seems gentoo got 9.7 working with the new kernel, wonder if i can figure out how to patch it on slackware from that [11:12] 9.7? [11:13] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.214.95) joined ##slackware. [11:13] m4lik: afik,since i'm a slackware user and as slackware doesn't have scripts for 8 and 9! ,my selection make sense :) [11:13] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Client Quit [11:13] ph_ (i=5a501582@gateway/web/freenode/x-7b5aaf04a686b4e3) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [11:13] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] init[3]: OK. [11:15] lf4: gn,btw [11:15] vantech1 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.126.18) left irc: "leaving" [11:16] mancha: the catalyst drivers [11:16] mancha: the radeon driver is working for me, but no fullscreen video, pretty much a dealbreaker [11:16] is that the new amd/ati stuff? [11:16] yeah [11:17] well, no fullscreen -flash- video, but for my media center i need that, do a lot of hulu [11:17] was hoping it'd be decent [11:17] do you recall your errors? also i am sure catalyst will be updated to handle the newest kernels. what colonel do you run? [11:17] Linux Dragon 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Sun Jul 12 22:46:36 CDT 2009 i686 AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [11:18] *29.6 is not al that new and not much different from .29 are you sure its not too *old* ? [11:18] I think they are planning support for 2.6.29 in their 9.10 release which could be 3 months or more off [11:18] terr, ah i see. so yeah investing in patching it might make sense (3 months is a long time) [11:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] terrapin: yeah hoping so [11:20] this is for my desktop, actually fullscreen isn't mandatory on this machine, it's the htpc im worried about [11:20] thats another amd/ati machine - with an integrated radeon hd3200 [11:21] which is an older card so may have better luck, but i had read that it only supported up to catalyst 9.3, which didn't support the new xorg [11:21] but ati site just recommended i download 9.7 for the hd3200 integrated, so might giveit a shot and see what happens, but then i'll prob still run into the 2.6.29 issue, so blahr [11:21] +gh [11:21] what a nightmare [11:23] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.152) joined ##slackware. [11:24] fiyawerx: for an htpc, you could use mplayer to watch fullscreen flash video (that you've downloaded with youtube-dl or similar) [11:25] Urchlay: hmm, not a terribly bad idea, -most- of our watching will be done in virtualbox + windows + netflix on demand [11:26] I mean I don't know your setup, but on my TV I couldn't use a web browser anyway (low resolution interlaced picture, plus sitting too far away for the mouse/keyboard to reach) [11:26] eh, no way to use the netflix on demand stuff in linux? [11:26] nope [11:26] it uses silverlight [11:27] + silverlights drm, which looks like it won't even be in monolight or whatever it's called 2.0 release [11:27] no wine support for that? i claim total ignorance re msft crap [11:27] not to my knowledge [11:27] unfortunately [11:28] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] i was hoping to be able to set up a media server with amarok too, but it looks like amarok now -only- uses an integrated mysql database, so you need to use ampache + amarok to do something like that, still ahve to look into it [11:28] rather server so i can connect with multiple clients and still use them to sync ipods and stuff from the central library easily [11:29] my wife likes amarok, itunes - not so much [11:29] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) joined ##slackware. [11:29] if it's locked into proprietary MS tech, bleah, I'd find some other way to watch videos (does netflix still rent DVDs?) [11:29] they do, but the on demand is pretty nice [11:30] hopefully someday it'll work natively too [11:30] could try to convince her to buy an xbox 360, but doubt that'll happen any time soon what with the tv and my new desktop pc [11:30] she'll just make me leave windows on it if i can't get it working otherwise [11:30] which i don't mind, i just miss having a linux server running [11:31] windows 7 has worked great for me so far as an htpc os [11:32] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:33] my desktop i do a lot of gaming on, and hate rebooting all the time when i leave to go to work so i can connect remotely and whatnot [11:34] From where to install Linux-mini-HOWs? any suggestion will be welcome. [11:35] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:35] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [11:35] adeodatus: from slackware/f/ on your slackware DVD, or from a slackware FTP or HTTP mirror [11:35] fiyawerx: if you just want to connect for small things (irc, files, etc...) run a small linux VM under windows, give it a bridged connection and ip address, and mount shares with samba, etc... [11:36] adeodatus: hmmm, wait, mini-HOWTOs don't seem to be there, only the regular ones [11:36] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:36] fiyawerx: would be a great little proxy too [11:39] I've asked that question because I coudn't find it Om my system! [11:39] adeodatus: yeah, I dunno... probably the best thing to do is go to the main web site, it'll let you download all the mini-howtos as a tarball, just extract them to someplace like /usr/doc/mini-howto [11:41] thanks, Urchlay I will try. [11:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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[11:56] Padhu1 (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: Client Quit [11:57] no [11:57] Action: quasar looks at the topic [11:57] at least, not according to that [11:58] Not as per slackware.com. [11:59] then why do you think it is? [12:02] upyr[emacs] (n=user@194.9.231.203) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] damn, this is interesting... syncing a blackberry in linux >.<; [12:04] 13.0rc2 runs pretty well,adeodatus if interested you may use it [12:06] What's new on 13.0rc2? [12:06] a whole lotta stuff [12:06] dancing desktop slave girls? [12:07] lol^ [12:07] ahh, no that's a KDE5 rc... sorry [12:08] adeodatus: do read the changelogs, compare it with 12.2 and current [12:09] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Hello, does anyone knows why this is not working ${execpi 300 python ~//conky/hotmail.py xxxxx@hotmail.com mypassword ? [12:11] How many rc uses slackware until the final release? [12:11] .... [12:11] Action: theblackbox looks at topic o_O [12:11] sorry, a few typo's [12:11] the good one is : [12:11] adeodatus: "enough" :) [12:12] Hello, does anyone knows why this is not working ${execpi 300 python ~/.conky/hotmail.py xxxxx@hotmail.com mypassword} ? [12:12] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:12] lagann_ (i=agon@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] thanda_ (n=raavi@83.236.142.210) joined ##slackware. [12:14] thanda_ (n=raavi@83.236.142.210) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] adeodatus, as many as it takes.. [12:14] roelof, does hotmail.py work on its own? [12:14] dive: is that xfig thing fixed? [12:14] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:14] meh LQ is down [12:14] init[3], nope, I tried all 3.2.5x versions and none worked [12:15] now that the snownews developer finally replied.. [12:15] only one which worked is 3.2.4 aka the 12.2 sw version [12:15] raavi (n=raavi@port-83-236-142-210.static.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [12:15] dive:seems like an Epidemic for xfig :D [12:15] Dive , I get the message : ImportError: no module named feedparser [12:16] Action: init[3] wondering what would have caused it [12:16] whats the easiest way to poll a serial port? [12:16] so I have to look for the python module feedparser [12:16] init[3], if you search about a bit for 'xfig segfault' there are a lot of links. Seems like their favourite topic. [12:16] roelof, yes that would seem sensible. [12:17] akin to cat /dev/serial listening for characters, while at the same time echo blah > /dev/serial [12:17] oke, im going to look for that [12:17] thanks for the pointer [12:17] have a nice evening [12:17] spook: 2 sessions? [12:17] yw [12:17] fiyawerx: i wanted something automated. [12:17] dive: lol, so xfig ain't a reliable sw [12:17] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [12:18] well you said easiest :-P [12:18] init[3], well 3.2.4 seems fine [12:18] raavi (n=raavi@port-83-236-142-210.static.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:18] pay me 20$ an hour and i'll do it for you [12:18] dive: you mean even on current ? [12:18] i'd write one myself, but cbf right now [12:18] cbf? [12:18] i'll do it for free .. [12:18] init[3], yes 3.2.4 works great on -current [12:19] dive: aa, well i'm gona do that [12:19] dive: thank you,for the trial [12:21] i didnt mean write one, i meant i'll sit there and poll it :-D [12:21] i need a new job [12:21] upyr[emacs] (n=user@194.9.231.203) joined ##slackware. [12:22] init[3], np [12:22] fiyawerx: just make sure you poll nicely lol [12:22] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:23] writing one now [12:23] you could just use Device::Serial in perl [12:23] fuck perl [12:23] ++spook; [12:23] :P [12:24] spook--- [12:24] stop hatin spook [12:24] which did perl ever do to you spook ? [12:25] it required effort to learn, so i didnt learn it [12:26] if you say you like PHP instead, that's sad :P [12:27] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:27] well php and perl are like cousins [12:27] oh hell no [12:27] I wonder what the offspring would look like [12:27] It's good to know many languages. [12:27] more like PHP tried to be Perl with broken training wheels [12:27] well true [12:28] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [12:28] it's funny to see PHP users come in to #perl asking pcre questions [12:29] and the response: PCRE != Perl doesn't seem to hit home [12:29] should be a #pcre perhaps [12:30] Action: fiyawerx gets the obligatory python plug in [12:30] fiyawerx, no no no [12:30] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: "Leaving" [12:31] fiyawerx, unless it's perl.py of course ;-) [12:31] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:31] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:33] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] Billtoo (n=root@bas4-unionville55-1176016539.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [12:34] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [12:36] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [12:37] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.34) joined ##slackware. [12:43] dive: heh [12:44] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hmmmm [12:46] hai Necos [12:47] hey nix_chix0r ^_^ [12:47] got my blackberry last night... trying to figure out how to sync it with my linux box here at work [12:47] how are you:)? [12:48] what blackberry? [12:48] tour [12:48] newest one [12:48] looks like all the plugins work for the old one >.> [12:48] *older ones [12:49] the blackberry seemed akward to hold [12:49] what i really need is a cell with a regular phone handle:)) [12:49] lol [12:49] i seen the bluetooth ones [12:49] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] the old carphones were like that [12:49] aliddell (n=acliddel@pool-71-114-21-249.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:49] They sell ones that plug in to the mini phono cable too [12:50] yeah i think i need one seriously all these new fangled things taking the phone feeling out of it.:( [12:50] never seen that straterra [12:50] lol we should have codecs like Solid Snake [12:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] I want my new phone like..today [12:51] i think i'll just drink my oj:O [12:51] _I_ want my new phone like _yesterday_ [12:51] hey straterra no fetus? [12:51] But..I just got to order 38 1TB server grade drives [12:51] nix_chix0r: :/ [12:51] now to convince the wife to get me a new phone :) [12:51] lol [12:51] She miscarried... [12:51] wow... [12:51] bummer - my first wife miscarried once [12:51] i know i was just asking if you were planning on having a nother go [12:52] Not intentionally, no [12:52] alisonken1church: and what wife are you on now? [12:52] 5 [12:52] number 2 [12:52] ;p [12:52] doh! [12:52] i'm on 1 [12:52] and my last [12:52] untill i find some one who makes moar money i tell him that every so often hehe [12:52] :) [12:53] lol [12:53] since he wont use slackware i think that may be grounds for termination [12:53] I keep telling my wife she needs to make enough so I can live like I'm supposed to [12:53] nix_chix0r: lol [12:53] nix_chix0r: you know, you have a channel full of willing bodies... :P [12:54] hmm [12:54] nix_chix0r: http://www.amazon.com/Novophone-Retro-Phone-Handset-2-5mm/dp/B000GQ0TBS [12:54] bodies - yes. but do they pass the money test? [12:54] yeah thats the thing [12:54] :) [12:54] nix_chix0r: I have a suspicion she is again though [12:55] fiyawerx, yes! [12:55] i want that [12:55] straterra, you need to start vacuum sealing your wang [12:55] That won't work.. [12:55] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [12:56] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:56] I think the acid in her juices eat the condoms [12:56] Action: straterra shrugs [12:56] Hello, I have one problem with a python programm [12:56] lol straterra [12:56] rofl [12:56] I get a indexerror : list out of range [12:56] alien? [12:56] I'm..serious [12:57] use condoms with spermicide to counteract the acid >.> [12:57] they do make a male birth controll [12:57] or did they discontinue it [12:57] lol [12:57] Necos: She's allergic to latex..so..our options are extremely limited [12:57] I found it so I can see how many hotmail messages I have on Conky [12:57] durex? [12:57] nix_chix0r, that's great... just need to convince the postman... [12:57] nix_chix0r: you mean..the one that can cause infertility? No thanks. [12:57] init[3] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [12:58] straterra wants kids eventually? just not right this second, i'm guessing lol [12:58] it's not called castration by chance, is it? [12:58] naw just send her in to get the iud [12:58] they have a 5 year and a 10 year plan and you can get it taken out anytime [12:58] Hey, kids sound like fun! [12:58] eviljames, it's a blast [12:58] What are you supposed to do with them? [12:58] Are they edible? [12:58] iud can still fail tho :P [12:59] ej, very edible [12:59] quasar: not quite that extreme - I got fixed after the last one [12:59] nix_chix0r: she was on the shot and we used rubbers..and it still happened [12:59] iud has a less chance of fail rate [12:59] shot is supposed to have like 99% [12:59] some women are just superfertile [12:59] but it's that 1% that kills it [12:59] you look at them and they're pregnant [12:59] init[6] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:59] yeah i was on the depo and i got knocked up i am super fertile but it's been like 4months with the iud and so far i'm good [12:59] yeah, my first was like that [13:00] hm anyone using a wireless kb/mouse? looking for a decently cheap set [13:00] dynex keyboard, but I prefer the wireless trackman [13:00] Will slackware come with new kerne?l [13:00] keyboard seems ok, trackman is great (especially when in the lazy boy) [13:00] Action: fiyawerx has a 3 month old, wouldn't change it for the world [13:00] we have dynex usb keyboards... those things look flimsy [13:01] fiyawerx, girl or boy=0 [13:01] been doing ok so far - had mine for about 3 years [13:01] I'm gonna go [13:01] later straterra [13:01] girl, shes been sleeping the night since the dr gave us the ok to, and is generally f'n awesome heh [13:01] yessssssssss! [13:01] brb [13:01] it's this rule which is wrong usuario = sys.arg(1) [13:01] http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/3673298917_873e00e4f2_b.jpg [13:02] and shes gonna be a geek if i have anything to say about it [13:02] speaking of bedtime - ta ta [13:02] hey fiyawerx my monkey boy is 5months in a week want to set them up lol [13:02] WTF 5 MONTHS [13:02] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] nix_chix0r: you just reminded me of how fast time flies. damn you. [13:02] eviljames, time flies [13:02] great minds and all... [13:03] she'd be 6 months by now :/ [13:03] http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7356/ollieandteddy.jpg eviljames [13:03] fAu (i=1000@95.75.147.225) left irc: "42" [13:03] Dive : are you still there ??? [13:03] bah, imageshack blocked from work heh [13:04] aww [13:04] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust493.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] he's a cute one, with his big blue eyes and dribble [13:05] hehe [13:05] congrats [13:05] its great, she'll wake up in the morning and just lay there until we get up, babbles to herself a lot [13:05] nix_chix0r: what a cutie. [13:05] yeah he's real chill like that as well he sleeps about 10hrs a night which helps me out greatly [13:05] and I don't say that much, because I think words like 'cutie' = ghey. [13:06] roelof (i=0@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:06] he is just a good looking kid [13:06] i got real lucky [13:06] yeah, lord knows you're an uggo. [13:06] totally [13:06] :)) [13:06] nooo my program didnt work [13:06] nix_chix0r: :D [13:07] Nick change: init[6] -> init[0] [13:07] man tuesday i was swamped at work i had 3 phone appeals, and 3 regular appointments with clients and hearing forms [13:07] heh we tell ourselves we got lucky too [13:07] I'm going to china.. [13:07] the babtism we went to had 4 babies, and man the other ones were ugly [13:08] today i have nothing going on that i know of [13:08] fiyawerx, i've seen so many ugly babies lately few from my friends who had kids with in a month or two of me [13:08] girl babies especially a lot of them looked like little eskimos [13:09] heh yeah [13:09] i think even that bouncy chair pic is a efw weeks old now, they change so fast [13:10] her eyes are a lot less blue now, kinda hazel, i have brown and her mother blue, so no idea how they'll end up [13:10] since my dad had blue also [13:10] blue is a dominant color you should know by 4-5months what it'll be [13:10] i think they kinda stop warping at that age [13:11] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: "work, work" [13:15] How do I pass configures --prefix to cmake? [13:15] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [13:16] m4lik: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/source/kde/kdeadmin/kdeadmin.SlackBuild [13:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:17] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [13:17] thrice`: Wow, nice. Thanks! I could not find an example like this. [13:19] giuppy (n=giuppy@host21-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:19] lol [13:20] :-) [13:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.214.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:22] blue is recessive >.> [13:22] heya Necos [13:23] heya fire|bird :) [13:23] yo fire|bird hows it going? [13:23] y0 dive, going great, thanks. you? [13:23] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:23] ok thanks [13:25] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) joined ##slackware. [13:26] hmmmm, this is gonna take a while :( [13:26] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73698.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] y0 slackytude [13:27] greetings slackers [13:27] heya slackytude [13:27] y0y0 fire|bird [13:27] hows it hanging [13:27] slackytude: how goes? [13:27] y0 Necos [13:27] fire|bird, been bored and scripting again. Perfect for the bottom of .zshrc: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/motd [13:27] fire|bird, still alive despite the best efforts of my many enemies [13:27] fire|bird, how are you and your lappy? [13:28] enjoying the new blackberry, but gotta figure out how to use barry [13:28] Necos, ohhh nice [13:28] fire|bird: Yo! [13:28] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] slackytude: I'm doing great, the laptop is still goin strong too. \o/ If only my imaging attempts would be successful. [13:28] Hi m4lik [13:28] looks like it is an involved process to do syncing in linux [13:28] Necos: :O, nice. [13:29] dive: Cool, I'll check it out. thanks. [13:29] slackytude: Opera 10 B3 has been released. [13:29] fire|bird, yeah, saw it [13:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:30] Nick change: m4lik -> shik4nt4z4 [13:31] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:31] slackytude: getting closer to final. \o/ [13:31] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Necos, I need do the same with my phone: got bluetooth and ir but I can't get it working... [13:31] fire|bird, aye :D [13:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:32] Edgecrusher (n=x@187.21.128.137) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Edgecrusher (n=x@187.21.128.137) left ##slackware. [13:33] dive, what phone do you have? [13:34] It's a sony-ericson K510i [13:34] Im in too many channels [13:34] this is my first smartphone, so i'm pretty stoked [13:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Necos, at the moment I'm using it to sync to google via goosync [13:35] so I do have a kind of sync [13:35] it's funny, 'cause on my old phone, i had this backup assistant program to sync my contacts with the verizon servers... [13:35] and just need bring up iGoogle to view tasks, calander, contacts etc [13:35] that program doesn't work with the blackberry lol [13:36] so had to phone > bitpim > modify in notepad++ > outlook > blackberry [13:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:37] is google calendar an option? [13:37] Necos, you dont need a blackberry [13:37] you're a l4m3r [13:37] i don't need one... i just wanted to get myself a toy [13:37] slackytude, yes I use google calendar synced to phone [13:37] thought you had one, the penixmaster 3500 [13:37] me pearl just died recently, sucks, contract isn't up with vzw until jan so then i'll decide on android vs iphone [13:38] no jeev, that's what you bought for your sister :P [13:38] nope [13:38] fire|bird, won't they change the phone for you? [13:38] fiyawerx: do you have equip insurance? [13:38] oops tab fail fiyawerx [13:39] fiyawerx, won't they change the phone for you? [13:39] necos, we did yes, then they want 50$ [13:39] raw (i=raw@howaboutyou.showusyourteetees.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] for a deductable [13:39] oh, the deductable? [13:39] after i paid like 80$ total for the insurnace [13:39] so 130$ for a new pearl, or i can 'upgrade early' for 50$ and get a newer phone altogether [13:40] fiyawerx, great service [13:40] so i said screw it, reactivated my old lg phone, dropped my data plan [13:40] i still have my samsung u-740 [13:40] and just waiting until my time expires so i can look into new phones / service [13:41] i really like this thing though... i have access to stuff i didn't before [13:41] like a web-browser lol [13:41] handy [13:41] one of my friends just got his iphone worknig on tmobile with no issues, i just have an aversion to TMO for some reason [13:42] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-117-63.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [13:42] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [13:42] i've generally had great experience with verizon, i just should have known better about the 'insurance' [13:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:42] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-108-245.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] There were some guys offering phone unlocking for like £5 in my town centre. Had to get that done ;-) [13:43] dive: I'm looking at that link now, looks awesome. Put that in ~/.zshrc or put it in a script and have zshrc call it? [13:43] I have it call it [13:43] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:43] hmm ok need to decide on a keyboard so i can put this newegg order in [13:43] dive: ok, thanks. [13:43] actually should probably source it [13:43] need to have my webcam/headset by monday heh [13:43] dive: yeah, source /path/to/script [13:43] ph (n=ph@chs44-1-88-173-69-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] or . [13:44] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] fiyawerx: what kinda boxen you building? [13:45] Necos: already have my htpc, just need a remote kb/mouse for it [13:45] oh, pimpin [13:45] dive: whoa, that is very nice. [13:45] lantins (n=lantins@scarlett.lon.lividpenguin.com) joined ##slackware. [13:45] fire|bird, thanks Ä [13:45] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-25-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] lantins (n=lantins@scarlett.lon.lividpenguin.com) left ##slackware. [13:46] looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126069 currently [13:46] dive: Now if I could just get my prompt back to working. :P It hasn't since I uncommented that one line in a file (I don't remember which one) to get irssi colors working. [13:46] fire|bird, don't know how it would work with 2 cpus, or smp though. [13:47] that's not a bad one... rechargeable? [13:47] dive: Well, I'm on smp, works fine. :) [13:47] fire|bird, hmm. Strange. No clues which script? [13:48] fire|bird, /etc/DIR_COLORS or /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh perhaps? [13:48] reisio (n=reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [13:48] reisio (n=reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:49] dive: possibly, you had mentioned uncommenting this one PS=something line in whatever file it was, I did, and the prompt hasn't worked right since. :P [13:49] I'll check in a bit [13:49] bbiab [13:49] ok [13:50] reisio (n=reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [13:50] reisio (n=reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:50] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:52] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. 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I forgot the name... anyone know of any slackware tgz files sites? [13:58] I asked my good friend goog.. but no go. [13:58] use slackbuilds [13:59] JiMMyJaKAzz: You'll find that people advise against using random binary packages collected from the internet. [13:59] JiMMyJaKAzz: The running advice is to go to www.slackbuilds.org and download a build script for the package you are looking for [13:59] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] fiyawerx: nothing wrong with that :) [13:59] yes correct but there is one site orangish in color that had most tgz files.. but arghh.. I forgot the name. [13:59] fiyawerx: what area do you live in? [14:00] orangish? osusl? >.> [14:00] Does anyone know if ALL the Intel 945GM chipsets don't allow > 3gig ram? [14:00] genericFlounder (n=genericF@adsl-99-130-197-12.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] JiMMyJaKAzz: If you're thinking of linuxpackages.net the current stance is DO NOT USE. [14:00] ahh.. thats it. [14:00] ok.. thankks eviljames [14:00] ... [14:00] lol [14:00] just curious... no need. [14:00] linuxpackages is evil :) [14:00] lol [14:01] Action: JiMMyJaKAzz eviljames shows evil .. lol [14:01] god [14:01] I'll present information that is evil [14:01] lol [14:01] you know it's evil when eviljames says it's bad [14:01] but hopefully my warnings are severe enough to heed. [14:01] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-108-245.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:01] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [14:02] I'm still laughing at what was the website? it was orangeish? [14:03] lol... freekin I new it was orangish.. [14:03] 'ello. I've got a narcoleptic little lappy on my hands with SW 12.2. Out of nowhere, unprovoked, whether I'm using it or not, it randomly goes into suspend to ram. This did not happen in Ubuntu when it was installed, so I don't believe it's BIOS related. [14:03] i compiled a new kernel with acpi_debug and pm debug support [14:04] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-125-135.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] nothing shows up in the logs that is able to pinpoint what's triggering it, at least what i can see. [14:04] i can has slackware 32 bits of 13.0 when :) ? [14:04] any little tidbits to point me in the right direction? [14:04] geoff_k, when I can have it 64bit :) [14:04] geoff_k, you can has when it has readyness [14:05] geoff_k: You can have it now, or at least its release candidate and help squash any bugs you see. [14:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:05] geoff_k: slackware-current = 13.0rc2 [14:05] (fwiw, "RC" for Slackware is generally more stable than most distros "LTS") [14:05] genericFlounder, have you tried turning on the acpi logging and looking in /var/log/acpid? [14:05] dive: ok, I checked those two files, neither of them are it. :/ [14:06] y0 eviljames [14:06] fire|bird: how goes dude? [14:06] fire|bird, one sec [14:06] eviljames: goes great, thanks. yourself? [14:06] geoff_k: you can now if you don't mind calling it current [14:06] lol all those answers [14:06] let me catch up [14:06] i just want the stable one :) [14:06] fire|bird: fsckin inundated by stupid @ work :D [14:06] fire|bird, I am 99% sure it was /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:07] eviljames: haha, what else is new? :P [14:07] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.31.175) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] or not [14:07] geoff_k: what kind of video card do you use? [14:07] i keep waiting for stable released 13.0 but im getting to point i might just go current [14:07] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Hi [14:07] dive: I was thinking it'd be that one too, but I don't see any PS= lines in there. [14:07] intel and nvidia both well supporteed [14:07] hey fredoslack [14:07] Hi fire|bird :) [14:07] at least on (swear alert) ubuntu LTS [14:08] id o run my desktop on slakcware tohugh alweays have for long as know linux [14:08] oops srooy i will learn to type later [14:08] fire|bird, /etc/profile [14:08] fire|bird, I'm 99.9% sure this time Ä [14:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:09] dive: that looks like it's it. Any idea which line would have been commented that I uncommented? [14:09] fire|bird, but if you comment out that line again you must add something there under/above it like 'echo -n ""' or it will give error. [14:09] thanks dive, hadn't run across that yet, i'm reading the acpid man page now so we'll see where this gets me. [14:10] dive: yeah, true. :/ [14:10] fire|bird, look under elif [ "$SHELL" = "/bin/zsh" ]; then [14:10] I can still set my prompt, but it doesn't stick like it used to. I have to set it each time. [14:10] genericFlounder, acpi logging is off be default in 12.2 so you need read man page and see the switch to turn it back on [14:11] fire|bird, but zsh should be using prompt and rprompt instead of PS1/PS2 [14:11] bell_bell (n=sfgerg@212.183.134.208) joined ##slackware. [14:11] salklame (n=root@78.60.185.222) joined ##slackware. [14:11] fire|bird, if they give problems set the ="" in .zshrc perhaps [14:12] s/the/them [14:12] dive: Hmm, I think I got another way to fix it, sec. [14:12] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:12] dive, thanks for the heads up. [14:12] yw [14:13] genericFlounder, should be able to alter the startup line in /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid [14:13] anyone tell me howto give user root paths for sudo ..instead of typing /the/full/path [14:13] bell_bell, add /sbin and /usr/sbin to path [14:13] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] bell_bell, export PATH=$PATH:/sbin for example [14:13] salklame (n=root@78.60.185.222) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] dive: fixed it. I had it calling /etc/profile AFTER setting my custom prompt. I switched them around and it's fine. [14:13] dive will work after i reboot ? [14:14] dive: thanks. :P [14:14] bell_bell, you need to put it in ~/.bashrc for that to stick [14:14] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:14] ok thanks [14:16] dive so if i wont more than /sbin ...say /usr/local/sbin do i add it to the end of that libe [14:16] line* [14:16] with a space [14:16] bell_bell, yes jus add :/some/path:/another/path [14:16] no space, use a : [14:16] ok thanks [14:16] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] younes (n=younes@adsl-230-23-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [14:19] what filesystem on slackware 13 ext3 or ext4 [14:19] younes: yes [14:20] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [14:23] how do you set pppd to suid root [14:23] im using umtsmon [14:23] bell_bell: chmod(1) [14:24] same way you suid any other binary [14:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Success [14:25] mancha, %uucp ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/umtsmon << i added that to my sudoers so i could just add umtsmon to my fluxbox mnu [14:25] dive, looks like i just have to append -l to it in the rc.acpid, thanks! [14:26] ill man chmod [14:26] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:26] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:27] why do you want sudo _and_ suid? [14:27] joannis (n=chatzill@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [14:28] well i thought with that added to sudoers it would work but itsays sett pppd to suid root ? [14:28] i know it's a permissions issue [14:29] just wondered how to solve it [14:32] bell_bell: pretty sure sudoers just lets someone type sudo command without the pw, not the command without sudo [14:32] roelof (i=roelof@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:33] dive: That adobe reader update really did seem to fix most of the loading performance issues for me [14:33] in browser and standalone too [14:33] hello, I try to make a hotmail script working on conky but Im stuck with a message : List index out of range [14:33] who can help me with this ? [14:34] fiyawerx, it's for my fluxbox menu .... [exec] (umtsmon) {/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/umtsmon} [14:34] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] hello fellow slackware users! [14:36] hello. yesyes [14:36] hello yesyes [14:36] type this at a bash prompt: yes yes [14:36] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:37] yesno [14:37] bell_bell: ah ok, not too sure about that just saw the line about the sudoers [14:37] ok np fiyawerx [14:38] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:39] Action: yesyes had never typed yes in the console before [14:39] i now have a new screen window, running it constantly [14:39] my favorite: yes "This is not a denial of service" | wall [14:40] heh [14:40] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73698.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] really only fun on a machine where lots of different people log in with ssh or something [14:41] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kdpaqlnfgsnohvph) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:41] http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/judge-copying-dvds-is-illegal/ [14:41] Copying DVDs is fair use. [14:41] Creating a program to copy DVDs and selling it is not. [14:42] damn it eviljames rtfa [14:42] Neither is creating free source code that does so for "educational purposes" [14:42] So while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individuals computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies, Patel said [14:42] That write up is stupid and wrong. [14:42] that's what the judge said right there [14:42] uhm [14:42] The judge is then wrong, as the DMCA clearly has exceptions for this sort of thing. [14:43] so we all have to turn in our computers? [14:43] Urchlay: yes, today [14:43] heh [14:43] by 5pm [14:43] Thanks Urchlay for pointing out that :D [14:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:43] This judge should have recused himself on grounds that he doesn't understand technology. Real will appeal [14:43] hey don't think i agree with it. I think this is yet another case of judges not understanding the technology at all. [14:44] genericFlounder (n=genericF@adsl-99-130-197-12.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:44] in theory, that's what expert witnesses are for [14:45] Our technology is 10 years or more ahead of the legislative process, 20 years or more ahead of the judicial process [14:45] can an expert witness fix cranial-rectum inversion? [14:45] antiwire: Not if the jurors have this desease. [14:45] lol [14:45] no - one who can help me with a conky problem ? [14:46] antiwire: wouldn't that mean you can go after the big companies who make the devices that play them? [14:46] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Besides, the DMCA itself is fatally flawed in this regard - 1) no one can stop people from copying DVDs, monetary punishment and jail time for such a 'crime' is obscene [14:47] 2) It was very clearly set up to ensure that an oligopoly does not face any competition from transformative technology. [14:47] fiyawerx: no, because those companies buy licenses [14:47] roelof (i=roelof@cc454396-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl) left irc: [14:47] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:47] decss source code on tshirts was clever++ [14:48] fiyawerx: set top boxes are licensed to play dvds. there have been a few cases when some companies had pirated the ability for a set top box to play dvds and they got nailed [14:48] I had one of those players too lol [14:48] Shit. DD allows me to copy dvds. FSF IS IN TROUBLE. [14:48] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] eviljames: copying a dvd and unscrambling it are two different things [14:49] mancha: Very, very true. [14:49] antiwire: Not in this judges eyes. He clearly states "copy" not "decrypt" [14:49] re [14:49] again, we know the difference but the people interpreting the laws apparently don't [14:50] Which is a big, big problem. [14:50] btw the only way to fix it is to wait for the space rock [14:50] Apophis? [14:50] eviljames dd/cp? why? [14:51] the Earth destroyer! [14:51] why is gnu in trouble? [14:51] or FSF [14:51] Quiznos: as per antiwire's link above, a judge has made it illegal to traffic in a tool that permits copying of DVDs. dd is one such tool. [14:51] ah [14:51] Well, he has interpreted the DMCA to outlaw those tools. [14:51] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:51] dumb men in dress shoul;dnt dablle in geekdom [14:52] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] she fails to understand that copying a dvd is different than using DeCSS to descramble a video DVD [14:52] it's a she btw [14:52] who were the parties in that case? [14:52] Quiznos: I strongly doubt that the judge is dumb, they just do not understand certain aspects of the technology. [14:52] "dumb" is people who whine about 'activist judges'. [14:53] and the copying part a side, previous judgments didn't tread on the fair use part, this one does [14:53] eviljames as you just said, cp != decrypt [14:53] Quiznos: I said that. [14:53] oh ok [14:53] Quiznos: you're doing a Donyy. [14:53] Donny [14:53] heh which? [14:53] antiwire: that's like #10 just this week for him. :P [14:53] Fair use & Reverse engineering are both permitted by the DMCA, as well. [14:53] lol [14:54] yep [14:54] who are the parties [14:54] Real Networks vs. the DVD consortium [14:54] or some such equivalents :D [14:54] Quiznos: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/judge-copying-dvds-is-illegal/ [14:54] k [14:54] go gleam for yourself [14:54] so wher's the money? bc that's what the judge is after, the lawyers too [14:54] ok [14:55] "courts are banks" remember that folks. [14:55] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:55] i think that the judges don't realize that the V in DVD means versatile and not video. [14:55] heh [14:55] probl [14:56] Conspiracy theory, and nonsense. [14:56] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:56] there's always room for one more [14:56] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:57] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:57] antiwire if judge is deciding contrary to prior opinions then that could be the setup for major appeal [14:58] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] is this in big appelalte court or lower? [14:58] it will be appealed [14:58] no doubt [14:59] that could be what she was told to do also [14:59] cause an appeal [14:59] from the pdf "UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA" [14:59] ty [15:02] Real must have put up a piss-poor defense. [15:02] I hope their lawyers didn't get paid for that. [15:03] Because it should be trivial to show that they are only enabling Fair Use of purchased materials [15:03] Technology will always win. Laws emerge from society, and when you get enough people acting in a particular way (with tech) laws that don't work well with this new behaviour must eventually change. Either that, or arrest everyone. [15:03] And that they are not selling a "reverse engineered" product or anything like that - they licensed the DVD decryption algorithm (though licensing math to me is abhorrent) [15:04] yesyes: indeed. The laws in this case are irrelevant, cat's out of the bag, barn is burned down, [insert generic too late comparison] [15:05] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-52.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] It strikes me that these media firms are trying to change behaviour, too. And have been doing so for ages. Hence the stupid media campaigns that came out when people starting copying music via tapes in the 80s. But unless they can trigger mass guilt to change behaviour, or frighten people into playing by their rules, their only other option is to try to police everyone, which is untenable. [15:08] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Excess Flood [15:08] Orion_ (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:08] younes (n=younes@adsl-230-23-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:10] As soon as these firms realise they can make money via itunes and spotify type things, and the big media companies that refuse to adopt die, these stupid laws and judgements should stop. [15:10] bell_bell (n=sfgerg@212.183.134.208) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [15:13] yesyes: iTunes is the #1 music store on earth. [15:13] So I don't think anyone is slow to realize that this type of stuff doesn't work. [15:15] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:16] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-177-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:16] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:17] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] eviljames: Others that haven't caught on too fast, or can't make as much money as before, will fight. Besides, there's nothing like that for DVDs at the moment, which is what this is about. [15:19] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Regarding iTunes, I doubt other music companies are too pleased with having Apple control a large part of their distribution channel, anyway. [15:20] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [15:20] because they're greedy? [15:21] More because they want to earn as much as they did before, and want to understand the business as well as they did before. [15:22] nope, just the first... [15:22] they don't want to share profit [15:22] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:22] I'm not entirely sure if they'll lose money, but as they don't know their new distribution channel too well, i.e. not able to exploit it to the fullest, at the moment, it seems likely, as first, at least. [15:24] Well, no one wants to share profits. Their reaction, as people who like money and want to keep it (you know a fairly common human reaction), seems fairly expected. [15:24] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [15:24] :( Les Paul has passed away at 94 :( [15:24] oh what? [15:24] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [15:25] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-60-254.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:25] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] Hai [15:25] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:25] Hiya Netu! [15:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:25] ohhai ^^ [15:26] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-60-254.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:26] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [15:26] :) [15:26] Necos: Sucky stuff. That guy invented the electric guitar, and apparently multi-track recording [15:26] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-obit-lespaul,0,3409136.story [15:26] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:26] i know! :( [15:27] van (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:27] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:28] Nick change: van -> v4nelle [15:28] who gives a rats ass [15:28] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:28] iconic [15:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] he made things i appreciate, and so i appreciate him, i want those i appreciate to enjoy life as long as possible, he can't know because he's dead, and so i am sad. [15:32] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] there you go, jeev. [15:32] s/know/now ! [15:33] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.90.107) joined ##slackware. [15:33] i'd never actually heard about him until a while ago, but you know, logically... ;) [15:33] how could you _not_ know who Les Paul is?! [15:33] O.O [15:33] non-guitar players wouldn't have heard of the Les Paul guitar, so it's not a household word for them [15:34] a few days ago we learnt i didn't realise samba was a great peice of software. i've obviously been living in a cave for a few years, quasar. [15:34] eviljames, I say we have a ##slackware massacre. [15:34] well, all my life... [15:34] what Urchlay said. [15:34] for i in `cat ##slackware`; do killall -9 $i; done [15:34] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.34) left irc: Connection timed out [15:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:35] hi dive! [15:37] i know who les paul is [15:37] and i dont care [15:37] i think people have better things to think about than a dead guitar designer [15:37] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.93) joined ##slackware. [15:37] i haven't. [15:37] you must live outside america [15:38] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:38] Neer, I ssh into a co.uk domain to confuse people. [15:38] Urchlay: that would have been perfect timing for a netsplit [15:39] lol [15:40] fiyawerx: especially if Urchlay would have been included in it. :P [15:40] Action: eviljames was killed :( [15:40] Urchlay: how could you! [15:41] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:42] evening yesyes et al [15:42] omg, evilzombie! :o [15:42] dammit, I can't get rid of this zombie eviljames proceszs [15:42] hmmm [15:43] you should really change your name to benevolentjames. you seem more helpful than evil. [15:44] yeah like that guy who couldn't remember linuxpackages.net - he was very 'helpful' there ;-P [15:44] Pope James the Benevolent? [15:44] nah, Evil sounds better in that [15:44] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [15:45] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:46] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:50] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [15:50] Action: init[1] waves o/ to slackers [15:50] yo [15:51] get up sleepy heads [15:51] yo dive :) [15:51] It seems geeks are taking over the world. My new kettle has instead of '|' and 'O' for on/off, or even 'on/off', it has '1' and '0' [15:52] Dang it init[1], you woke me up. Now what do you want? :P [15:52] I'm sure we could enhance this to bcd [15:53] fire|bird: lf4 said you are female slacker , is that true ? o_o [15:53] s/are/are a/ [15:53] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] init[1]: No, lf4 is though, just trying to hide it and say that others are. :) [15:53] only if being a big girls blouse counts [15:53] :> [15:53] fire|bird: now you have put me into deadlock, [15:54] well missjane is nice though,:) [15:54] i was surprised to see one, [15:54] based on? [15:54] haha [15:54] dive: i mean female user , [15:55] k [15:55] Action: init[1] wonders, what dive might have thought off.. [15:56] well,does any one have a problem of blinking vertical bar,on firefox!,i guess its should be problem with my nvdia thingie [15:58] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-207.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:58] we're not suppose to mention their gender. they get frightened off when we keep mentioning it. we're just suppose to act like the whole of ##slackware hasn't just come alive with excitement and sexual frustration. [15:58] ah! [15:58] I got laid last night [15:58] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] pics or it didn't happen. [15:59] do you take any pics? [15:59] want me to fxp or irc? [15:59] lol [15:59] 4chan them [15:59] It's actually a ##slackware rule. You're not allowed to mention it unless you're willing to share pics and / or videos. [15:59] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] lol [15:59] well im willing but youre not willing to share you ftp info [15:59] 4chan! [16:00] 4chan! [16:00] DeeeeP (n=me@bl4-204-52.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:00] \b\ [16:00] lol [16:00] it's // [16:00] yeah [16:00] but i wanted to be different [16:01] /\_o/ [16:01] ,`´, [16:02] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] damn, with screen i can no longer press ctrl a to skip to the beginning of the line :( [16:03] i get http://imagebin.org/59464,vertical bar, when i use firefox, it keeps on blinking [16:04] ee (n=alife@216.159.13.110) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [16:05] init[1]: thats not your browser causing problems, that is from crappy code on that website [16:05] Pig_Pen: do you have the same problem ? [16:05] post the url of that website [16:05] Pig_Pen: can you please go to moblin.org [16:05] www.moblin.org [16:06] yesyes: ctrl-A followed by A [16:06] i'm @moblin [16:06] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.157.166) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Quiznos: you mean are you part of dev team? [16:06] no [16:06] testing [16:06] tink tink tink [16:07] i'm bored atm [16:07] http://imagebin.org/59465\ [16:07] http://imagebin.org/59465 [16:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:07] ah, thanks Urchlay! [16:08] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [16:08] no vertical bar for me either [16:08] i'm using firefox and nvidia too [16:08] Pig_Pen: you don't seems to have any problem, [16:08] antiwire: binary driver? [16:08] yes [16:09] have you enabled compositer? [16:09] Pig_Pen: antiwire ^ [16:09] no [16:10] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] same here, firefox-3.5.2 & nvidia's driver [16:10] Pig_Pen: you really need to set a gtk theme :) [16:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Connection timed out [16:10] van (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] well, seems like,i'm the only one, [16:11] antiwire: Pig_Pen did you try click on the left side [16:11] van (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:11] s/click/clicking/ [16:11] no, just opened the page and took a screenshot [16:11] crap,looks like a blinking led ,:/ [16:11] init[1]: you're running noscript aren't you? [16:12] antiwire: yes [16:12] ... [16:12] that's what is causing that [16:12] is that the problem ! [16:12] has anyone tried running g++ 4.4? [16:12] oo, [16:12] noscript causes a what? [16:12] disable no script plugin and try again...watch [16:12] I specifically use noscript to avoid blinking stuff [16:12] no [16:12] forget i won't try to explain this [16:13] eh, what's the URL that causes the problem? [16:13] kamaji: yes, why ? [16:13] noscript did not cause any problems for me [16:13] noscript is awesome [16:13] antiwire: same problem. [16:13] it is awesome, but I experience this exact issue from time to time [16:13] www.moblin.org <--- that? I don't see anything wrong, nothing blinking [16:14] init[1]: take the mouse cursor and just click in between some text [16:14] Urchlay: try clicking on the left side [16:14] it will stop blinking [16:14] click that white text in the middle [16:14] that paragraph [16:14] #GNU PEOPLE SUCK [16:14] init[1]: click where? I see no blinking... [16:15] slacknode (n=slacknod@32.175.214.110) joined ##slackware. [16:15] heaumer: did you just upgrade your regular gcc (as opposed to running both), and is there a package for slackware? [16:15] antiwire: yes that does avoid it, but when i click some where else it starts blinking again [16:15] i know [16:15] Urchlay: did you see my Screen shot [16:15] it's a bug somewhere [16:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:15] init[1]: it's a static screenshot ain't it? I can't see it blinking either... [16:16] http://imagebin.org/59464 [16:16] I upgrade, and I don't use package for such things [16:16] Urchlay: that vertical bar, [16:16] what, next to "featured posts" text? [16:16] Urchlay: okay then...image that where you see that vertical bar...the bar blinks [16:16] how about that? [16:16] Action: init[1] disabling all plugins [16:17] yeah [16:17] i wonder how moblin will do on an older x86 laptop [16:17] I see the vertical bar on my browser, but it doesn't blink [16:17] Urchlay: your problem seems chronic :D [16:17] lol^ [16:17] eh, that vertical bar is an image: http://moblin.org/sites/all/themes/moblin_temp/images/rightside.png [16:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] PNGs can't be animated like GIFs can [16:20] Urchlay: is there any ogvbin kinda site? [16:20] neither proprietary like gif's are :P [16:20] so i guess i shoudl for ofiskal -13? [16:20] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-152-154-179.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Les Paul is dead [16:20] 92yo [16:20] a good long life. [16:20] Urchlay: do you thing this is the design of the site http://imagebin.ca/view/XCITU0D.html / [16:20] with some fortune for himself. [16:20] i bet i dont make it to 92 [16:21] then it's truoo [16:21] you wont. [16:21] Pig_Pen, i'm sure war will end humanity soon [16:21] init[1]: how'd you get it to do that? [16:21] what ? Urchlay ? [16:22] sahko: I just meant, the blinking he's seeing, can't be caused by an animated image [16:22] init[1]: the last URL you pasted. The mangled layout. How'd you get it like that? [16:22] http://i29.tinypic.com/69f18j.jpg [16:22] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [16:24] Urchlay: *import* allows me to select the required portion [16:24] Grouper (n=guest@64-238-185-75.vs.apt.gru.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] good thing he has a helmet on, its a rough ride [16:24] hello [16:25] i'm having some problems getting X started and working on my fresh install of 12.2 [16:25] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [16:25] alienBOB mistake on your url to "helpful page" [16:25] my monitor says vert refresh on but hor refresh off [16:25] alienBOB a : in url [16:25] fqdn [16:25] old page [16:26] 2006 [16:26] Urchlay: see, [16:26] http://imagebin.ca/view/E_5MZMU.html [16:26] ^the black thing keeps on blinking [16:26] that shot is from wikipedia [16:26] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] i've tried running xorgconfig but that didn't help, i've also been manually changing the refresh rates in the config file but no matter what i try it doesnt seem to wo0rk [16:27] X -configure [16:27] eh, weird. I don't see a giant black vertical bar on wikipedia at all [16:27] ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-- don't help either [16:27] X -configure [16:28] do you have some funky extension going [16:28] Pig_Pen: me ? [16:28] init[1]: ^ [16:28] yeah [16:28] Action: Quiznos slaps `X -configure' on Grouper's forehead [16:28] what extensions do you have? [16:28] do taht. [16:28] we dont need no stinkin X. [16:28] steenkeen [16:29] great, thank you so much! [16:29] yw [16:29] Pig_Pen: every plugins are disabled ,i have no third party extensions [16:29] init[1]: go turn off "always use cursor keys to navigate within page" under Preferences/General [16:29] er, preferencs/advanced/general, I mean [16:30] that giant bar is actually supposed to be the cursor that shows your position within the document... [16:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] that bar is font-sized [16:30] iseen him [16:30] checking.... [16:30] anying lil bugger [16:30] anoying [16:30] the one in his wikipedia screenshot is as tall as the wikipedia logo [16:31] hit END, to end of page [16:31] er, including all the text around it (the different langauges choices) [16:31] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [16:31] 0 [16:31] 1 [16:31] \0/ yay ... .. [16:31] if bar doesnt move; click on clear part of page then END [16:31] lol! [16:32] hmm, tv commercial for Iceland [16:32] not really even sure what "always use cursor keys" even does: normally, with that option off, cursor keys scroll the page except when you're in a text/textarea form field [16:32] right [16:32] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] so what changes when you enable it? [16:32] Action: init[1] Urchlay ,Pig_Pen antiwire thank you , [16:32] let me check, [16:33] init[1]: BTW, it's nothing to do with noscript or any other plugin/extension, you can turn those back on [16:33] i never would have found it, i never use that feature [16:33] but with keys, curs moves element to elem. like key-pref in html elements [16:33] elinks can do the same thing [16:33] you can still use tab to navigate the hyperlinks in a webpage [16:33] or is it "tab" [16:33] Urchlay: as soon as i enable it,it starts blinking [16:33] Pig_Pen: I found it because I remember Netscape 4.something having the same feature and the same visible cursor (though it never became a giant cursor like ff does) [16:34] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust493.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] just took a minute for my mind to figure out "hey, that looks like a humongous blinking cursor!" [16:34] heh [16:34] the only time i seen a giant cursor like that was using seamonkey's email client when adding a large graphic when composing an email, then the cursor would get large when it is next to the graphic [16:35] Action: init[1] :D,foof... [16:35] Pig_Pen: that sort-of makes sense I guess... eh, or not [16:35] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [16:36] alright, now how do i get video modes above 800x600. i hav4e them definee in xorg.conf but they don't show up in display settings [16:36] since a page is composed of individual blocks of page; cursor will be size of font nearest to it [16:36] Action: init[1] goin to sleep, [16:36] gn [16:36] but if i started typing text the font size would not get large, after typing the first letter the cursor would get small (with the font size) [16:36] Quiznos: gn,:) [16:36] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [16:36] Quiznos: yah, but on the wikipedia page, there is no font as tall as that cursor. Instead, it's the size of an entire table element (or div, span, whatever they used to make that layout) [16:37] should be [6] [16:37] [6] would be reboot [16:37] ok [16:37] sleep == shutdown[6] [16:37] telinit 6 [16:37] Grouper: xrandr -s 1024x768 [16:37] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:37] eh, not if you plan to actually get some sleep. reboots are fast [16:37] heh [16:38] bbl [16:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] so somebody, what's a good name for a vectrex emulator? [16:38] xrandr only lists up to 800x600 [16:39] found source code to a windows-only one called "vecx", porting it to linux and adding some features [16:39] need a name... [16:39] what is your monitor capable of? Grouper ? [16:39] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host86-152-154-179.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] 1600x1200 [16:40] I betcha he's using the default VESA framebuffer driver in xorg.conf [16:40] wow, i bet xorg is mis-configured, probably the video driver it is using [16:40] driver "nv" [16:40] Grouper: did you do that X -configure ? then copy that as /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:41] DeeeeP (n=me@bl11-180-67.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:41] DeeeeP (n=me@bl11-180-67.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:41] yes, i did "X -configure" then tested it and copied it over top of the old config [16:41] it wouldn't even start up before [16:41] how old is that nvidia graphics card? [16:41] eh, four or five years maybe [16:42] thats not too old [16:42] 5500? [16:42] yeah [16:42] either 5200 or 5500, i dont remember [16:42] that card should be able to handle any monitor you throw at it [16:43] pastebin your xorg.conf [16:43] also you might want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [16:43] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [16:45] whoa, my newegg order is already shipped [16:45] Action: fiyawerx waits for the 'same day delivery' [16:46] do you live next door to NewEgg's warehouse? [16:46] http://pastebin.ca/1528534 [16:47] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] you did it correctly, i dont see a problem with xorg.conf [16:49] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] http://pastebin.ca/1528537 maybe remove the 800x600 entry and the unused subsections [16:50] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-176-223-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Do modern xorg.conf files really NEED resolution forced still? [16:50] Pig_Pen: nah, few states away unfortunately, i can settle for next day [16:50] Shouldn't they all be returning the auto-config stuff anyway? [16:50] eviljames: you dont need xorg.conf files in modern xorgs :) [16:50] fiyawerx: You do when working with nv. [16:51] ahh, will it default to the wrong driver? [16:51] fiyawerx: standard UPS ground can move freight from one end of the country to the other in less than a week (usually) so i would not pay extra unless you have an emergency or money to burn [16:51] I would expect it to try nouveau before nv. [16:51] Pig_Pen: i meant i choose free 3 day shipping, and it gets here next day [16:51] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] eviljames: wonder how ubuntu does it, i think once you install the restricted drivers, it still doesn't use xorg.conf but uses them correctly [16:52] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.90.107) left irc: "Leaving." [16:52] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] fiyawerx: Not sure. I could easily be wrong about which order xorg considers drivers, though. It may look for restricted first and then default back to FOSS ones. [16:53] could you blacklist the modules you dont want it to load ? [16:53] thats a good question in general tho [16:53] how it chooses the driver [16:53] there are a lot of errors in the log file about modes where the vert and hor are out of range [16:53] if that means anything [16:54] heh one thing i liked about upgrading to current and removing my xorg.conf - my mouse buttons all started working by themselves [16:54] Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name) [16:54] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [16:55] looks like Pat will need to build a new kernel for 13/Current soon http://blog.cr0.org/2009/08/linux-null-pointer-dereference-due-to.html [16:55] Grouper: Are you using a monitor that needs modelines, perhaps? [16:56] i really don [16:56] don't know [16:56] it's rather old [16:56] Pig_Pen: holy shyte, I thought that was a 2.6.30 specific bug [16:57] crt from '98 [16:57] ahhh [16:57] its been around a while [16:58] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Pig_Pen: Well, the null pointer deref thing is _supposed_ to be handled correctly for kernel level things. [16:59] there, i just added horizsync 30-90 to the config and restarted X [16:59] thanks guys for the info... shall catch y'all later... ciao. [17:00] JiMMyJaKAzz (n=waazzaab@206.162.161.156) left irc: [17:00] Quiznos: what are you talking about? Url? [17:01] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-149-130-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-207.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] Grouper: and it flies now? [17:03] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] hrm its hard to work on a program in 30-60 second intervals :-\ [17:04] what does this look like; for ($i = 0; $i <= 9999; $i++) { if ($i == 0) { echo "hello
\n"; } else { echo "hello$i
\n"; } } [17:04] eviljames: it is a local exployte only [17:05] but ssh could do it too i guess [17:05] mrselfpwn: It looks like php to me. [17:06] ever heard of synclient fiyawerx? [17:06] yeah [17:06] thank you evil james [17:06] or nfs ? [17:06] i had to add some more resolutions and define vertrefresh as well [17:06] mrselfpwn: I don't do anything with php, so i could be wrong. [17:06] Grouper: ahh, yeah, I remember those days. [17:06] i thought it was php as well. [17:06] but it's working great now [17:07] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-153-62-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] mrselfpwn: Apparently php uses echo, so my level of confidence in that answer has increased :D [17:07] yes :) [17:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [17:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [17:09] i'm gonna make hello a variable with an input box for the word. [17:10] Hey mrselfpwn, how's it going? [17:10] hey fire|bird! [17:10] going good [17:10] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:11] i thought beer was good last night now i'm finding out how good water is again. [17:11] lol [17:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:13] mrselfpwn: Gatorade/Powerade. [17:13] Nobody uses that shit for sports, it's 100% HANGOVER sales. [17:14] i quit drinking water when i realised fish f*** in it [17:14] hahaha [17:14] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:14] lol [17:14] fish don't fsck in my water :) [17:15] eviljames, speak for yourself =P [17:15] Action: fire|bird glances over at his bottle of Spring water. Hmm..... [17:15] the pee and poo in it too o.0 [17:15] yes, it becomes like part of the water. you can't get it out. [17:15] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.93) left irc: Connection timed out [17:15] edman007: you have your own fish free water source? [17:15] cmair (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:15] I do. My water is all mountain runoff! [17:15] we have well water. [17:16] yes, well water, natural spring on the hill, there are no fish supporting pools of water at an elevation equal to or above my elevation [17:16] from a glaciure so it is at least 10,000 years old [17:16] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.101) joined ##slackware. [17:16] glacier [17:16] yeah [17:16] wow, water is old. [17:17] your mom is old [17:17] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-176-223-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] :D [17:17] Dudes, NOTHING is 10 000 years old. The entire planet was created in a single moment almost exactly 6000 years ago. [17:17] duh [17:17] eviljames, well you just use a time machine and go back before time existed [17:18] water itself it probably billions of years old, it just goes through purifieing cycles of evaporation, underground springs, frozen in glaciers etc... [17:18] edman007: ohhh, of course. [17:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:19] Pig_Pen, it's had microbes shiting in it. Not pure ;-P [17:19] Pig_Pen, actually, no, plants destroy water, animals create it, there are other sources as well, but as an example a few pounds of water come out of a person every day that did no go into them [17:19] lol dive [17:19] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:19] nothing is 100% pure, that's why your body was designed to be able to filter it out [17:20] good ol' kidneys [17:20] Action: TwinReverb stabs mrselfpwn edman007 dive eviljames with the ##slackofftopic pen [17:20] heh [17:20] {in bed} [17:20] TwinReverb: I police people into that channel when there are on-topic questions :P [17:20] silly TwinReverb, on irc the /topic follows me, no matter where i go [17:20] o.O [17:21] 8-D [17:21] 8=====D [17:21] wow, long nose [17:21] s/nose/hose/ [17:21] dive, your a midget? [17:21] haha :| [17:22] omg that has got to be the stupidest ascii "art" ever [17:22] I considered going with s/n/h/2 but people seem to not know their sed syntax anymore [17:22] Action: eviljames stares squarely at fire|bird [17:22] :P [17:22] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:22] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:24] (it's all gone quiet) [17:25] apart from my stomach rumbling [17:26] eviljames: hahaha [17:26] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Penile comments in a room full of males tends to quiet conversation. [17:27] Grouper (n=guest@64-238-185-75.vs.apt.gru.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:27] your face [17:28] face > mum [17:28] I should grow up one of these days [17:29] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] fire|bird, did you fix your prompt? [17:29] ip-route (n=iproute@unaffiliated/contraventor) joined ##slackware. [17:29] dive: eh, you've done alright all these years, why start growing up now. :P [17:29] hi [17:29] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "pqp!" [17:29] troo [17:29] hello [17:30] how set to user read folder /var/log ? [17:30] add this to an group? [17:30] ow using chmod ? [17:30] dive: yeah, I had mentioned that above, in zshrc, I had it calling /etc/profile AFTER setting my custom prompt. I switched them around and it's fine now. [17:30] could do, dunno what group reads logs though. I would chown it perhaps [17:30] fire|bird, oh yeah now I remember [17:31] how make this? [17:32] chown username /var/log ? [17:32] slacknode (n=slacknod@32.175.214.110) left irc: [17:33] better have a look at permissions in there though, in case it messes up system [17:33] in fact probably best just to read logs as root [17:34] and leave permissions/ownership intact [17:34] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.157.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:34] i wouldn't use chown if you're going to make it so that certain users get to read the logs [17:35] make the group name for this permission, then chgrp only the files that this will apply to [17:35] many logs are world readable anyway [17:35] yes [17:35] then those logs that shouldn't be world-readable, chgrp o-r them all [17:36] er chmod o-r [17:36] 99% of the time, traditional permissions handle what you need [17:36] the other 1% is either a situation where you need PAM, or where your requirements are unrealistic 8-) [17:36] problem might be say sendmail that really does _not_ like wrong permissions and will complain or even refuse to run [17:37] alternately, if this is a per-server log thing, you could make groups for servers and chgrp their log files to them, etc [17:38] man yesterday i was going to make a dvd-ram of slackware64-current. it was going to be so pimp, until i realized that my drive can only read, not write, to dvd-ram [17:38] oops [17:38] why dvd-ram though? [17:39] man i wish there was a way to buy dvd-r's that are a specific size only for the sake of burning small images to them [17:39] because it's small and it looks pimp [17:39] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [17:39] you used to be able to get these business card cd's [17:39] they looked cool and a handy size too [17:39] yeah i remember those too [17:40] yeah, until you put one in your wallet or back pocket, then try to sit down [17:40] i was going to rip an iso of slackware64 that was without source and pasture, but with openoffice. oh well. [17:40] yeah I find it faster to download source and build script than fish out a slack dvd.. [17:41] but rules are rules I spose [17:41] back in like 1999, someone was handing out a live CD of some linux distro on those CDs (they called it "the bootable business card") [17:41] Urchlay, yeah I was thinking the same [17:41] I must have found 100 broken ones when moving [17:41] (moving the office at work, not moving my home stuff, I mean) [17:41] I have cygwin on usb stick now though which is handy [17:42] yeah, if you're stuck using windows, cygwin is nice to have [17:42] or msys (I used to use that for compiling a couple things) [17:48] poletreesmall (n=poletree@153.sub-70-221-96.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:50] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.43) left irc: [17:52] cmair (n=cmair@host189-111-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:53] what would really be cool is a dvd-to-size service where they burn a dvd and then the size of the dvd is based on how much data track it has [17:53] Action: TwinReverb has visions of dvd-ram size stamped dvds of slackware64 [17:55] i noticed mandriva has 32/64 bit dual install media now ... but the choice of which you install is done at software level after boot [17:55] too bad it can't be done from the boot loader on the dvd ... imagine dual layer dvd's of both slackware and slackware64 [17:55] slack 13 is going to ship 32-bit on one side, 64-bit on the other [17:55] true, but that's dual SIDED [17:55] i'm talking dual LAYER [17:56] still, that's rather pimp too [17:56] that should easily be doable [17:56] with a boot loader? [17:57] hmm [17:57] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.148) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] before ubuntu took the #1 spot at distrowatch mandrake (mandriva) used to have the #1 spot [17:58] for years [17:58] i wonder what distro is going to kick ubuntu out of the #1 spot [17:59] just like high school, popularity dont say anything about character [17:59] or quality [17:59] popularity != quality, true [17:59] ubuntu is a great distro [17:59] i find it alarming that certain distros are taking an unstable approach, such as fedora (if it's downloadable, they include it, even beta!) [17:59] well, popularity means that it cant be ignored much longer [18:00] ubuntu might be great, but i'm sorry: if at first boot you're using a gig of RAM, you might as well rename the distro Vistbuntu [18:00] ubuntu does not use a gig of ram at boot [18:00] i find ubuntu annoying, too much handholding, too much assuming what you want, i dont want a spash on boot, and i dont want a GUI autoload after it booted [18:00] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:01] thrice`, saw it for myself [18:01] performance isnt ubuntu's strong point, but that's irrelevant [18:01] that was gnome and compiz, to be fair, but that's insane [18:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:01] total used free shared buffers cached [18:01] Mem: 2000 1938 62 0 332 952 [18:01] imagine that being about the same, divide by two [18:01] 07:01:21 up 15:47, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.21, 0.17 [18:02] again, ubuntu has a purpose, and it's fulfilling it... [18:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [18:02] they start alot of services by default; if you disable stuff, it's really not bad [18:02] i've been doing a ton of stuff with mine though so that memory use example above is actually fair considering how much i have running and all the stuff i've done [18:03] true but to use one gig out of the box, why bother calling yourself linux? the point was that we were supposed to be more efficient with ram (granted user configuration could help) [18:03] oh well, time for work [18:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] 1938 - 332 - 952 is a gig ? [18:04] what good is ram if it goes unused, might as well be a shirt in your closet never worn and becoming food for moths [18:04] also, linux filling up ram is a good thing [18:04] it's caching [18:05] not filling ram unnecessarily, just not throwing stuff in swap when there is perfectly good unused ram to use [18:05] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-116-117.ip.mhcable.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:06] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [18:07] again, if ubuntu is helping to bring linux to the masses, all the better... [18:08] Action: lf4 enters gracefully *then trips over a cat5e cable* "Darn it!" [18:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.206) joined ##slackware. [18:08] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:08] lol [18:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] Does anyone know of a decently automated method of booting into a hard drive install when bios does not want to boot the hard drive? (eg a cd to redirect the boot process) [18:09] sure, read the boot message of the slackware install cd :) [18:09] fundamental: useing a live cd? [18:09] I just tried supergrub, but that does not seem to see my hard drive [18:09] lf4: something like that [18:10] thrice`: also said how to do it. :) [18:10] my issue is that I have a install already there, but I need a way to get it to boot [18:10] my bios will not boot it when the drives are connected with a PCI->IDE card [18:11] copy paste the line from the slackware install Cd, it'll load the Cd's kernel with the root you specify (your harddrive) [18:11] and I don't have space on the new motherboard for all the IDE devices to connect direct to the motherboard [18:11] ok [18:12] Pig_Pen: I have both ram and shirts doing just that. lol [18:13] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:14] same here, both my mom and wife buy me some of the cheeziest t-shirts with stupid sayings on them and i refuse to wear them so they sit in a dresser drawer getting old [18:16] Pig_Pen: lol its like a memory leaking programing haha [18:16] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:17] s/programing/program [18:17] yeah, one has something to do with Gilligan's Island, no sane person is going to go out in public with *that* on a t-shirt [18:17] fundamental, you can't install mbr on another disk ? [18:17] no IDE room [18:17] volkerdi (i=3321@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] I am downloading the live cd right now [18:18] Pig_Pen: Haha Gilligan's Island! That's awesome I would wear it (once) just to see the reaction of people. [18:18] the install CD will work fine :) [18:18] fundamental: sounds like RAID is your answer if you have more than 3 harddrives [18:18] I don't [18:18] I have 2 [18:18] and 2 cdrom drives [18:18] dekisugi (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] my new motherboard does not like IDE [18:19] the drive with the OS should be on the primary/master [18:19] PATA drive that is [18:19] I just got done rebuilding my sys after it died [18:19] The drives that are connected are the cdrom drives [18:19] both PATA and SATA are IDE drives [18:19] fundamental: the install cd of slackware tells you how to boot off a drive. 2 IDE ports on the mobo? [18:19] hm [18:19] I guess I mixed up terms then [18:20] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [18:20] fauch (n=fauch@e179145204.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:20] one IDE port, 2 devs max [18:20] newer motherboards are that way, they can do just fine with PATA CD/DVD drives, but they choke onPOST with a PATA harddrives, you need a SATA if you want it to do good [18:20] Ahh ok so I guess it has SATA drives as well? [18:21] I figured that there was a fairly easy solution for Slackware, so I will use the cd until I get myself a more modern hard drive [18:21] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Client Quit [18:21] Pig_Pen: Yeah I have two mobo's with one PATA connector. :) [18:21] I know that my system is fine if I hook the drives directly into the mother board [18:21] Action: thrice` grudingly starts compiling kde [18:22] Action: lf4 votes the next drives after SATA should be AT-AT ;) [18:22] BIOS just does not like the addon card [18:22] fundamental: have you checked to see if there is an update for your BIOS? [18:22] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:22] It looks like there are updates, but I cannot find a changelog [18:23] thats the way this motherboard is on the PC i am using now, i put my old PATA harddrive on it and when i booted it POST took forever and as soon as i got rid of the PATA harddrive and put a SATA on it POST took only a second and it booted right away [18:23] BIOS almost finds the hard drives [18:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:23] it is able to show the addon card with 0 hard drives... [18:23] some motherboardas are pickier than others about the exact jumpering of IDE drives, too [18:23] fundamental: oh ok [18:24] All I know is cable->mobo is good ; cable->PCI card is nothing [18:24] although I just booted up Slax, and the card works fine [18:24] it just needs the right driver to get it going [18:25] Pig_Pen: Thats kind of odd. :D my system boots off the PATA drive because the 4 SATA are for data. 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[18:27] since i have only one sata drive raid is pointless ;p [18:27] Pig_Pen: RAID the SATA and PATA :P hahahah [18:28] we know how you like RAID so we a RAID on your RAID so now you can RAID while you RAID...YEAH BABY [18:29] antiwire: 10 or 50 ++ ;) [18:30] lol [18:30] we did 10 on top of 50 [18:30] cause we're leet [18:30] Hahaha [18:30] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-255.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] antiwire: "Yo Dawg" probably would've sufficed :D [18:30] lol [18:30] Action: lf4 goes to calulate how many drives could possibly fail on a 1050 system :P [18:34] i am officially an old man now, i am wearing my first pair of perscription bifocal glasses [18:35] volkerdi (i=3321@connie.slackware.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] lol glad to know where to say an old person starts. [18:37] i never needed glasses my entire life, the last couple of years my eyesight has been going down hill, mostly just reading small fonts like newspaper [18:38] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [18:39] people still read the newspapers? [18:39] i do on occasion, mostly on weekends [18:41] Ahh ok :) [18:41] classified ads, comics :D [18:42] Haha Pig_Pen Thats exactly what I was going to say I use to read as well. [18:43] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: Client Quit [18:44] i like B.C and Wizard of ID, Dilbert, Blondie, Peanuts, and i like to see what people have for sale (tools, electronics, yard sales) [18:45] I don't read comics other than xkcd. [18:45] It's the only one that speaks to me. [18:46] eviljames: userfriendly used to be funny [18:46] the printed newspaper is dieing, netcraft confirms it [18:46] lol eviljames Yeah I've gone through all xkcd and to think I didn't know about it up until 2 months ago. [18:47] Pig_Pen: I like Peanuts and some times will read Dilbert but thats rare. [18:48] i dont even subscribe, i read it when i visit mom, she has it delivered [18:50] We use to buy it once in a while on the weekend, I would always look at the electronic store ads then read the comic's and that was it lol. [18:51] wife clips coupons to take grocery shopping [18:52] Yeah that's the reason why my parents bough it. [18:53] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [18:53] i think it is more trouble than its worth, she can save from 3 to 10 bucks, but i think it is reverse psychology, if you did not see the coupon would you buy that product? or just get what you needed? [18:55] Pig_Pen: haha that is so true. [18:55] y0 lf4 [18:55] its deceptive: you hear saying in advertisement like: "Buy now and save" = you dont save when you buy something, you spend when you buy something [18:56] hey fire|bird :) [18:57] Pig_Pen: its an oxymoron [18:57] fire|bird: hows everything going? [18:57] TV advertisement makes me want to throw something through the TV screen, all the advertising that is deceptive just to sell their crap you would otherwise not buy [18:58] fire|bird: I should mention that I did not tell init[0] you were a female. I said he should talk to you because he asked if I was. lol [18:58] Pig_Pen: I don't buy it anyways. :D [18:59] i dont either, but somebody is or they would not keep advertising [18:59] Action: lf4 is going to get some breakfast(at 5pm?) :/ [18:59] haha Pig_Pen true [19:01] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.101) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [19:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-160-126.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] uva (i=bno@118-160-162-96.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] lf4: i sometimes have bacon & eggs with toast for supper [19:08] Thanks for the assistance, booting from the install disk seems to be working just fine [19:08] i sometimes have cereal for dinner :P [19:09] lol nice maybe I will have both suggestions :P [19:10] lf4: hahaha [19:10] lf4: everything's going excellent, thanks. you? [19:10] fire|bird: :) thats good to hear, things are going well with me also. [19:11] makerc (n=makerc@201-42-169-197.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:13] fundamental (n=fundamen@24-148-116-117.ip.mhcable.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:15] lf4: Will have some different processor's to test out in the lappy yet today. :) faster ones. [19:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] fire|bird: nice, what type? [19:17] y0 hiptobecubic, how's it going? [19:17] fire|bird, not too shabby, yourself? [19:18] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] lf4: same as mine only faster, mine is 3200+ and iirc, these ones are 3800+ AMD 64bit. Family member got them and wants me to test them. :P [19:18] evening, gentlemen [19:18] hiptobecubic: doing excellent, thanks. [19:18] evening amazon10x [19:18] ladies [19:18] evening amazon10x [19:18] marvelous [19:18] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] fauch (n=fauch@e179145204.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.93) joined ##slackware. [19:19] i got my skates in the mail [19:19] cool [19:20] greetings nachox, how are you? [19:20] anyone know a socks4a-5 proxy relay daemon? [19:20] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-250-131-210.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] y0 acidchild [19:20] acidchild: openssh [19:20] i'm doing fine, thank you [19:20] lol sorry just realized what you asked. [19:20] lf4: FAIL :P [19:21] fire|bird: Hey its my "morning" :P [19:21] lf4: Well WAKE UP, and starting thinking. :P [19:21] Do i ever think? [19:21] not that I've seen, no. :) [19:21] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-250-131-210.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] lf4: If I do see that though, I'll let you know so you can mark it on the calendar. [19:22] fire|bird: Yeah thats because I used up the 3 brain cells thinking a long time ago and they commited suicide. [19:22] haha fire|bird [19:22] :) [19:23] Actaully I did think lastnight at work... http://imagebin.org/59381 [19:23] wow, hdd taped down. creative. :) You could have at least used the invisible stuff. :P [19:24] lf4: Where the heck is the ram? [19:25] nm, I see that there's one module. [19:25] fire|bird: Oh it's better then that... its a dell desktop the 80gb drive has bad sectors so we *cough* found a laptop HDD and the paper is so the laptop HDD does not touch the orignal 3.5" dirve. [19:25] hahahahahaha, priceless. :) [19:26] fire|bird: Haha yeah only one 1GB :P we requested more but I don't think we will get it haha. [19:26] Does *found* = took it out of a poor unsuspecting suckers laptop? :P [19:26] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:27] Oh but a co-worker called me today saying we have a new hdd lol (no one knows we put that 120GB laptop HDD in there). [19:27] fire|bird: something along those lines haha [19:27] lol [19:27] lf4: In that case, don't be surprised if that 1G module of ram goes missing. :P [19:27] they guy was fired and his laptop just has been sitting there for the past 3 months so... ;) [19:27] haha [19:27] hahaha [19:27] sweet [19:28] we're the only ones with desktops lol everyone else uses laptops so our ram is safe :) [19:28] then you're all right. [19:28] alright [19:29] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.34) joined ##slackware. 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Just got some laptops to work on for a family member, different processors. :) [20:05] you? [20:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] whoops, asked that already. :P [20:06] status unchanged for me :P [20:06] haha [20:06] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.63.46) joined ##slackware. [20:06] bbiab [20:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [20:07] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:08] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] drwho (n=drwho@c-98-225-211-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.155.161) joined ##slackware. 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[20:26] I can tell a lot about the people who reference my nick like this [20:27] so enlight me also [20:27] People can take it two ways; as meaning against wires/wired or meaning the opposite of wires/wired. You seem to take the former, and more negative, path. [20:28] Action: wintery is ready for those shitloads of thelght of knowledge [20:28] just thought that you're pro-wireless [20:28] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e0096dd.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] what if one is pro-wireless and pro-wired :o [20:30] it means a heathy person [20:31] that will travel a lot [20:31] and meat his beautiful, true love [20:31] moose batt died; it's such a sad affair [20:31] wintery: lol meat? [20:31] beet, lol [20:31] meet [20:32] haha meat, beet... gee did you kill your true love? [20:32] http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/fastest-sailboat-in-the-world-in-action-no-engine/ [20:33] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [20:34] lol Pig_Pen looks like the one guy is moving it like a bicycle with his hands :P [20:35] i dont know much about sailboats but there are a lot more to them than regular motorboats, they have to trim the sail and tune other adjustments [20:35] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [20:35] I've been out on a sail a few times [20:35] Pig_Pen: :) yeah i know lol just was joking. [20:35] I was barfing but still had to help the captain with the rigging. [20:36] antiwire: lol [20:36] it's serious business [20:36] i never got seasick, i love the roll of the sea [20:37] the trick is you have to find your sea legs, find your own equalibreum independantly of what the surface your standing on is doing [20:37] fire|bird: strigi is at its latest in -current [20:37] Action: nachox stabs thrice` and runs [20:38] :> [20:38] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Connection timed out [20:39] thrice`: really? hmm. what version of strigi do you have? [20:40] 0.6.4 [20:40] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:40] I have 0.7.0 [20:40] oh, maybe i'm blind :) sorry [20:40] haha [20:40] no problem [20:41] http://sourceforge.net/projects/strigi/files/ is what I was going on [20:41] thrice`: yeah, it moved to sf.net, but otherwise: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ [20:41] lf4 three things to know; keel-hauling, two sheets to the wind, weigh anchor. [20:42] lol [20:42] nachox: c'mon now, no need for a stabbing and run. :P [20:42] and tack. [20:42] hehe, i was bored [20:45] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [20:45] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Quiznos: :) thanks for the info so the guy that keeps "peddling with his hands" what job is it doing? [20:47] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [20:47] lol fire|bird yeah no need to run... you can get multiple stabs instead. :P [20:48] lf4: haha [20:48] Action: fire|bird stabs lf4 [20:48] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [20:48] Action: fire|bird runs [20:48] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: Client Quit [20:48] lf4: Hey, you're right. It works. :) [20:48] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:48] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [20:49] lagann_ (i=agon@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:49] Action: lf4 crawls after fire|bird leaving a trail of blood. [20:50] Action: andarius sets lf4 on fire and yells at fire|bird for not cleaning up his mess [20:50] fire|bird: you should try stabbing someone 4 times ;) [20:50] Action: lf4 makes a popping sound as all the liquid boils. [20:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:52] Action: superGear stabs fire|bird [20:52] european parrot!!!!1 [20:52] hahaha [20:52] who's euro? [20:53] lf4: it also makes the sound of a boot kicking me as I get get kicked for flood. :) [20:53] Action: fire|bird hits superGear in the head with a frying pan [20:53] there is a colony of wild parrots in the middle of brussels [20:53] andarius: I heard sirens, I had to get outta there quick. [20:53] the've escaped from cages [20:53] like lol, wtf? [20:54] fire|bird: ;) its like the old time gaming on windows... "hey did you know the secret cheat for the came is Alt+F4?" [20:54] green, wild parrots [20:54] in the middle of brussels [20:54] ...:S [20:55] lf4: hahaha [20:56] fire|bird: someone once tried to get me to do it and instaed I said thats not true its alt+ctrl+ and tap del 10 times. 5 seconds later lol they got disconnected. [20:59] i told somebody once to make such link in his autostart "shutdown -s -f -t 0" [20:59] Action: wintery is a bad mofo [21:00] uuhh yeah... [21:00] you could add a registry entry insted, it's better then. [21:00] wintery: lol aprl 1st 2007 I created a batch file and remoted in to my managers computer and added it to startup :) that was fun haha. [21:01] Action: lf4 leaves to eat some tilapia :P [21:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:02] just take a screen shot of their Desktop and then set that as their background and move the real icons off the screen [21:03] antiwire: no need to move just set to hide [21:04] lol [21:04] i have a perl script that reboots all the computers in a classroom with a message that says "get back to work" [21:05] great for scaring the shit out of unsuspecting students [21:06] you should try ITALC... another great tool for practical jokes [21:06] absolute power corrupts absolutely... remember that ^_^ [21:06] james__ (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [21:07] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [21:08] I'm defragmenting a windows VM [21:08] this is always hilarious [21:09] lol [21:11] btw, copy on write file performance has been fixed in qemu-kvm 88 [21:11] it's super fast now [21:12] nice [21:13] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-17-138-22.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] anyone stream music? I've been trying to get vlc working at it, but mplayer will only play a few secs and then EOF. And vlc is using 99% cpu. [21:14] ffmpeg doesn't seem to work either... [21:14] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest8345 [21:14] then it's a bad stream? [21:14] Action: andarius listens to internet radio using xmms [21:14] tried a few mp3s and wavs same problem [21:15] try di.fm [21:15] but I don't like vlc burning up cpu [21:15] atun (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:15] run the program from a terminal, get any errors ? [21:15] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Necos, ok, thanks. andarius, nope just says it opens the stream [21:16] you'll get a .pls file from the di.fm streams, so you'll be able to test (and i've used both vlc and mplayer with it) [21:16] 12.2 or -current ? [21:16] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [21:16] di.fm is a radio station? [21:16] 12.2 [21:16] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [21:17] internet radio, yeah... uses icecast [21:17] yeah I'm trying to create my own stream [21:17] where is your ffmpeg and mplayer from ? [21:17] SBo [21:17] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:18] andarius, says in man ffserver that some streaming is broken [21:18] try a more simple app like xmms ? [21:18] I run an icecast stream at home, and xmms/audacious/vlc do not have any problem with it [21:18] or audacious... [21:18] does xmms create streams, or just listen? [21:18] listen [21:19] right, I need something to create one. [21:19] umm [21:19] shoutcast ? [21:19] It's what vlc was created for, but I'm not going to have it burn up cpu. [21:19] icecast [21:20] yeah maybe, I will have a look at those, thanks [21:20] VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video formats <-- vlc was created to play [21:20] That is only partly true [21:21] it says it "can also be used" as a server [21:21] not a primary goal [21:21] VideoLAN has a server (vlm) and a client (vlc) originally, but nowadays vlc has all the vlm functionality [21:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:21] vls ? [21:21] And vlm is dead [21:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:22] Nick change: Guest8345 -> fire|bird [21:22] vlm, eh? [21:22] http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html <-- vls [21:22] was that the media server component? [21:23] Usage of VLC instead of VLS is advised. <-- same URL [21:23] was a reference to vlm :P [21:25] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:25] hmmmm [21:26] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [21:28] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] ohhai_ (n=eva00@200-138-103-235.ctame706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [21:30] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:30] Anyone know of a nice low cost domain registration site? [21:31] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:32] Nick change: fiyawerx_ -> fiyawerx [21:32] fiyawerx vs ati, take 2 [21:32] Action: thrice` puts money on ati [21:33] i saw patches for gentoo to get new catalyst drivers working [21:33] Action: andarius also [21:33] not that i understand it enough to apply it to a distro like slackware though [21:33] question, is it possible to downgrade the kernel with slackware-current? is that bad? [21:34] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] it's possible yeah [21:35] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [21:35] hmm wonder what it'd break, i could try something like 2.6.28 [21:36] you are looking to have 3D stuff working, I take it? [21:36] or just have it work at all? :) [21:36] well, its working right now, i think its using the regular radeon driver [21:36] i remember having full screen flash working, but now it doesn't want to [21:36] so figured it might be a combination [21:37] ah, ok; that was going to be my suggestion [21:37] with no xorg.conf it got my native resolution and everything [21:37] check the log file to see what it loaded [21:38] the idea of having to write a config file just to get your monitor to turn on seems really silly, thinking about it [21:38] lol that's because they didn't have mind-reading-fu [21:38] yeah, i like having an 'example' file in case you do want to add any lines in to override [21:38] but if it 'just works' im plenty happy with not having to mess with it [21:38] windows has had it figured out since 3.1 :D [21:39] but for example, how do you specify a driver without the file [21:39] it figures it out via hal [21:39] looks like its loading radeon [21:40] x-server asks hal for a list of devices while it's loading [21:40] so how could i specify radeonhd for it to try [21:40] it's supposed to know that already [21:40] you would need a xorg.conf, but a pretty small one [21:41] Action: fiyawerx nods [21:41] but, are you sure it can use radeonhd instead of radeon? [21:41] no, was just a thought, trying to look up radeonhd now [21:41] its an hd4890 card [21:43] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-125-135.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:44] re [21:44] rez! [21:44] re [21:44] re re re [21:44] as in rehi? [21:45] uhuh [21:45] been a while since i've seen that in use [21:45] back on talker days heh [21:45] yea, i'm oldskool [21:45] i remember stuff [21:45] not into revisionism [21:47] one gay army [21:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:48] hmm, there are beta drivers for windows for the new catalyst [21:48] for wut? [21:48] fglrx [21:48] joannis (n=chatzill@adsl-dyn219.78-99-108.t-com.sk) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.17/2009062419]" [21:48] yea, i cant use newewr than 9.3 [21:49] wintery, are you on current? [21:49] i'm gonna wait for -13. i'm not anxious to upgrade. [21:49] i've got a really, really, shitty gpu [21:49] i wanted kde 4 [21:49] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:49] ah, i dont think 9.3 supported my 4890 [21:50] does support my htpc / hd3200 though, thats alright [21:50] one of the shittiest [21:52] hmm, but it looks like older versions of the driver wont work on xorg 1.3 or later? man, i might just be stuck with windows [21:54] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:54] when build.sh are made, how are the --with*s and enables* chosen? [21:55] Quiznos: are you talking about configure options in a .SlackBuild script? [21:55] yes [21:55] just read one [21:55] fire|bird: was kdelibs-experimental required? [21:55] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Quiznos: they are set in the script... [21:56] the most used options and the most common packages installed in a slack system [21:56] i.e., if you full-install 12.2 [21:56] *e.g. [21:56] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] yea but are all with's and enables's that are available in a pkg chosen or are some left out? [21:56] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:56] if you full install 12.2, for example, the --enables are chosen to match what most users would have on their system [21:56] Quiznos: if they are explicitly set the defaults that configure finds/uses are used [21:57] aren/aren't [21:57] k; so build.sh doesnt name any? [21:57] Quiznos: I meant, if they *aren't* explicitly set the defaults that configure finds/uses are used [21:57] nods [21:57] Quiznos: have you even opened one up and looked at it? [21:57] so it's really the dev who's configing our slack? [21:57] a build? yea [21:58] there is a whole section in .SlackBuild scripts for configure, make and cmake options [21:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:58] sort of Quiznos [21:58] Necos ok [21:58] Quiznos: NO, you're the one who should be auditing the scripts if you think that way [21:58] nods [21:58] but, really, it's about trying to make the build as painless as possible for average users [21:58] sure [21:58] that's why the scripts are there for you to audit and modify to match your system [21:59] or desire [21:59] k [21:59] some scripts support parameter passing that affects the configure options. [21:59] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-126-221-126.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] mm, nevermind, it is [21:59] are we talking about slackbuild scripts? [21:59] ./config can also be fixed via config.site [22:00] TwinReverb yea [22:00] Quiznos: think about that for a second. [22:00] on what? [22:00] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-98-114-87-142.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:00] you'd need to extract the source tarball, modify the config.site manually and rebuild the source tarball. [22:01] are we making slackbuilds a bit too complex? [22:01] lol [22:01] you're doing a Donny [22:01] No [22:01] nah TR [22:01] no, the way i'm thinking is that 1, config.site is just another script called during ./configure; 2. i think less should be in /etc so / can be RO; [22:01] TwinReverb: you joined in the middle of a conversation and have no background in it. [22:01] TwinReverb i'm still grokking slackbuild; so i'm not sure yet [22:02] this is why i'm asking questions rather than making statements [22:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:03] still dont get the Donny ref tho [22:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] lol [22:04] watch the big lebowski and you'll get it [22:04] oh ok; [22:04] gaygaygay [22:05] hey Motoko-chan [22:05] Quiznos: If there is a configure time option (or you think there is one) that you want change, you can just extract the tarball and run ./configure --help and then modify the build script as you feel fit. [22:05] 04:04 < Necos> hey Motoko-chan [22:05] nods [22:05] that i know. [22:05] i can appreciate the porpose of the builds, i'm wondering on their flexibility and design [22:06] wintery: eh? [22:06] they're very flexible... they're text [22:06] KidneyBeans (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [22:06] what is the slacker staple food? [22:06] re ./conf, most of what i'm thinking would be generally applicable to all src pkgs [22:06] KidneyBeans, dvd+rws [22:06] coffee [22:06] its 4am here [22:06] sleep [22:06] i woke up at 1am [22:06] :/ [22:06] coffee here [22:06] to support pre-am work productivity [22:06] pre-sun that is [22:07] hmmm [22:07] i dont want to sleep the whole day [22:07] im gunna try to structure my shizat properly [22:07] maybe we could come out with a cheese-it (tm) that's called Slackers [22:07] but i wish to stay here now [22:07] gunna start working on my Software Engineering portal [22:07] lol [22:07] (S-crackers) [22:07] heh [22:07] have little slackware S logos on them [22:07] aliddell (n=acliddel@pool-71-114-21-249.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] Quiznos: Any given build script can be opened and modified and if the developer of the script has some forethought, they may have added a parameter to the script that can make modifications to any part of the script that a variable may need or want to be used. [22:07] but come in sheets because you have to break 'em into individual crackers yourself 8-) [22:07] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] nods [22:08] "some configuration required" 8-) [22:08] i heard they call while people crackers in america [22:08] BillClinton is showing hard frown wrinkles [22:08] Quiznos, aaaaaannnndddd...... we don't care 8-P [22:08] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.155.161) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:08] KidneyBeans actually no. crackers were floridians back in the day who were wrustlers and cattle farmers. [22:08] 1) ##slackofftopic 2) he's old [22:08] heh TwinReverb [22:09] cattle farmers eh? [22:09] Nick change: aliddell -> aliddell_afk [22:09] yea; according to local history vids on county access channel [22:09] then why do your black people keep calling you crackers? [22:10] word meanings change [22:10] is it a complement? [22:10] deps on context [22:10] it can be a funi; but usually not. [22:10] KidneyBeans, why are you trying to stir up problems in here? ##slackofftopic 8-P [22:10] TwinReverb he's not. [22:10] -.- [22:10] he's talking to the only unoffendable man here. [22:10] lol [22:11] KidneyBeans: eh? let's not try to start shit, ok... thanks [22:11] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [22:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] that's like me going to ##BET and asking why they all like chicken ... or to #debian and asking why they put out old releases as "stable" 8-) [22:11] 'shit'! I'm offended! how darest you use my nickname and a swear word in the same sentence! [22:11] wow old Billy Joel from WAY back in the day [22:12] Why did you quote 'shit'? [22:12] TwinReverb not it's not! [22:12] lol [22:12] i'm not offended, i'm just pointing out that someone might not appreciate that [22:12] KidneyBeans ig him. tawk to me. [22:12] debian dont mark old releases as stable, they mark obsolete releases as stable [22:12] i mean, i joke about my theme song being "White and Nerdy" by Weird Al [22:12] i'll make honest disapssionate answers for ya [22:12] fanks. [22:12] but it's in fun [22:12] last thing on earth i need r emo pollitical answers. [22:12] Action: TwinReverb sees no emo in here [22:12] i mean i dont do emotional. [22:13] ;'(( [22:13] TwinReverb = emokid [22:13] orly? [22:13] anywho... [22:13] KidneyBeans: = troll boi [22:13] lol [22:13] i think that's my cue to stop feeding the trolls [22:13] By 'stable' they aren't referring to whether or not it crashes. It's stable like "The API for xmpp is stable". Dead software is 'stable'. [22:13] danc3 := pascal assignment operator [22:13] Necos which troll? [22:13] you have a choice [22:14] hip!!! [22:14] so now i'm going through all my dvd+rw's and trying a format on them all ... twice [22:14] heya hiptobecubic [22:14] why? [22:14] Necos, hi [22:14] no dude they consider it stable because they haven't realized yet that the reason there are less bug reports in old software is because nobody's using it anymore [22:14] i guess it was the media after all because dvd-r's burn fine and of these dvd+rw's, half seem to format, the other half don't [22:14] HAHAHA KB [22:14] unless oldware dosent compile in the first place [22:14] Necos, your name reminds me of those wafers that i hate. [22:14] TwinReverb now where is this ##BET chatroom? sounds like the place to be [22:14] necco wafers! [22:14] reminds me of necros (gr.dead) [22:15] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [22:15] yeah, i've been told about necco >.> [22:15] necco, that's it. [22:15] necco wafers +1 [22:15] ugh. #@$#@ terrible. [22:15] danc3 dont ctcp version me biatch! [22:15] this is a custom irc client ;p [22:15] this is where i made the name from: [22:15] only candy better than necco wafers is "Good and Plenty" (licorice candy). [22:15] just reconfigure your client to not respond to CTCP [22:15] DCC get dance, clown, dance. [22:15] second - d = secon; n <-> s = necos [22:16] TwinReverb, he hasn't implemented that yet ;) [22:16] TwinReverb: its actually not a problem because i havent programmed ctcp version replies into it ;p [22:16] lol [22:16] ;p [22:16] goodnplenty are also terrible. [22:16] mine all redirect to /msg the one who tried it "why don't you just ask?" [22:16] you cann tell that they are up to something when they are doing a ctcp version [22:16] n <-> s ? What syntax is that? [22:16] freenode-connect must get tons of them [22:17] now he did a USERINFO and a CLIENTINFO, man this guy is up to something. [22:17] whoi is? [22:17] hehe [22:17] i don't know how to do the permutation symbols :P [22:17] danc3 = kevin miltnick! [22:17] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-98-114-87-142.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] no l [22:17] Necos its 'P' [22:17] quiznos, kevin miltnick is the comedian version. [22:18] coffee's ready and cooling for later. [22:18] ah [22:18] cooling? ugh. [22:18] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) joined ##slackware. [22:18] wow i jsut came out of the worst flu i've had all year, i literally spent three rolls of toilet paper in a day blowing my nose [22:18] it's in my linear algebra book, which i left at home (fuck that math class!) [22:18] nwah [22:18] yea i prefer temperate rather than hot [22:18] i mean bwah [22:19] man linear algebra as too much ancient shit too late [22:19] KidneyBeans how long? [22:19] linear algebra isn't ancient [22:19] ;p [22:20] KidneyBeans if you'd just vitC and Bcomplex, it would have been a very shortened immune response. that's all that "flu" is. [22:20] well, it is, just nobody thought of it back then [22:20] KidneyBeans: that was swine flu, just wait until you grow a curly little tail and snout [22:20] lol [22:20] quiznos it kicked in last friday [22:20] it wasnt swine flu [22:20] start with vitC and Bcomplex NOW [22:20] it was cigarette-withrawel fly [22:20] flu [22:20] haha [22:20] atleast 1500mg [22:20] daily [22:20] i take three multi vitamins daily [22:21] i quit cold turkey [22:21] not enuf [22:21] C and B* [22:21] thanks to straterra [22:21] i also did twinreverb, but i got damn sick this time too [22:21] whoz straterra? [22:21] Hi all. Am I correct to think that the "crypt-setup" only provides encryption for all partition. No encryption for a selected folder? [22:21] (I do not see encfs in the standard package list) [22:22] no, drug strattera [22:22] triplc, it's an encrypted partition, NOT folder [22:22] i didnt take any drugs [22:22] granted, when mounted it's a "folder" but it's not a folder if you see where i'm going [22:22] i've quit drinking too now [22:22] KidneyBeans, your kidneys and liver will thank you [22:22] TwinReverb: thanks. [22:22] yeh [22:22] triplc, no problem, thinking about doing some LUKS? [22:23] btw, Fanta is decaff orange soda [22:23] grrrz im going to have to get a new e-mail address, i cant cope with this damn spam [22:23] gmail? [22:23] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:23] i didnt like gmail [22:23] main Witch present. [22:24] TwinReverb: I do not know about LUKS. I need to read to see what is that. I used to use Encfs (folder encryption) [22:24] KidneyBeans why not? [22:24] im gunna register a new domain i guess [22:24] i just dont like using web pages for everything [22:24] ok [22:25] triplc, there's a README_CRYPT.TXT on the mirrors for explaining how to have an almost entirely encrypted slackware install [22:25] TwinReverb: Yes. I've read that file. [22:25] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-current/README_CRYPT.TXT [22:25] ah ok [22:26] i will say that i don't use the 256 bit option, and i only encrypt /home and swap, but it's awesome [22:26] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] i also encrypt a partition on my USB external hard drive, which when plugged in Xfce asks the password for it [22:26] LUKS is awesome to be honest [22:27] imo encryption is a false sense of security [22:27] o_leo_o (n=leo@116.232.196.179) joined ##slackware. [22:27] it's not a false sense of security, that's only if it's in someone's mind [22:27] it is "part of a well balanced diet" of security [22:27] o_leo_o (n=leo@116.232.196.179) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:27] i guess [22:27] i use encryption at work (military, F-16s) and i can tell you it's not a false sense of security (but that's all i can tell you 8-) [22:27] well i guess encryption has improved a lot lately [22:28] I use luks to encrypt my whole / [22:28] however, if you're careless in other ways, you will end up getting compromised in a different way [22:28] the only partition on my system that is unencrypted is a 100MB /boot [22:28] criminals consider what they do 'a game' [22:28] so you just end up 'playing' forever [22:29] all you really need is a nice way to catch the motherfuckers [22:29] bbl [22:29] cheers necos [22:29] disk encryption is only to prevent an offline attack at your data though. It doesn't matter if you are using block level encryption if someone compromises the running system. [22:30] antiwire, true [22:30] in my case i'm not worried about online security because i've already developed good habits and i pay attention [22:30] Oh. Why do you need to encrypt everything? For me, just need to encrypt one folder where I store browser cache, chat logs, pidgin settings... [22:30] Good habits like what? [22:30] i'm more worried about the laptop being stolen or me accidentally leaving it some place [22:30] antiwire: does it matter to you if we wait until tomorrow for the pam thing? [22:30] 1) not logging into websites that are not SSL if on an unencrypted network [22:31] chopp: no that's better anyway [22:31] 2) making passwords difficult to guess [22:31] 3) keeping up to date with security patches [22:31] 4) thinking before typing [22:31] i dont think i've created more than five 'accounts' in web sites in the last 13 years [22:31] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:31] etc [22:31] antiwire: ok cool...I'm having a hard time staying awake. Would it be better if you had someplace to upload it? [22:31] this social networking craze is gunna turn out to be the biggest security fuck up of the 21st century, imo [22:31] out of the entire internet there is two websites i log in at, craigslist and slashdot [22:32] KidneyBeans, depends [22:32] myspace is not encrypted, for example [22:32] (i.e. the login) [22:32] facebook can be if you pay attention [22:32] none of those sites will have incredible security measures [22:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] they were all dime a dozen success stories, of some kid or three getting REALLY lucky [22:33] If I'm on a network that is not my own I vpn out to my own network for internet access. [22:33] hardly any of them were built from the ground up to cope with the reailities of life [22:33] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:33] as for the data on their site, however, all they have is my email address and birthday, and my military PO box [22:33] i can't see how any of that will do them any good for now, but oh well, i may change that [22:33] there is no sense in trusting an https site if you are connected to a hostile network. [22:34] aliddell_afk (n=acliddel@pool-71-114-21-249.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:34] the only security problems that really piss me off are spam problems [22:34] IceW (n=sartori@icew.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:34] The only hotspot I would even consider trusting is a hotspot that uses PKI [22:35] the other thing about security is that you probably will never really have to worry about it, unless you become targetted [22:35] even if a hotspot is using wpa2-aes, your https connection can be mitm'd just as easily. [22:35] it can? [22:35] yes. [22:35] i've never really liked wireless [22:35] this isn't only limited to wifi [22:36] the only type of network encryption that can save you from a LAN based mitm attack on ssl connections is PKI based systems [22:37] let me guess [22:37] you need a damn fast computer for that to work aswell. . . [22:37] even wpa2-aes is a static key based system in which client will share the key... [22:37] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] well no, PKI works fine on single computers (clients), it's the server that has the majority load [22:37] you don't need a fast system to mitm an ssl connection at all [22:37] much less PKI LANs are expensive i would imagine [22:37] the US military uses PKI [22:37] That's why you take it into your own hands and vpn the hell out [22:37] my vpn setup uses PKI and I am the CA too [22:38] PKI is the sorta shit that made mark shuttleworth rich, right? [22:38] http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/crypto_apps_infra/pki/index.html [22:38] evne ssh tunneling with key based auth is better than pretending that an https connection over a hostile LAN is going to be safe [22:38] im on the wikipedia page [22:39] but it also depends on what you're doing over SSL [22:39] h4x0r1n6 [22:40] lol [22:40] if someone were to compromise my facebook, which i doubt, but if they did, there's nothing they can do with it except annoy me and other people. [22:40] you dudes must make lots of money doing security consoltations. [22:40] antiwire: openvpn? [22:40] chopp: hell yes [22:40] delete account and stop using facebook, problem solved [22:40] consultations [22:40] yes yes yes [22:40] openvpn changed I do everything [22:40] being annoyed for the rest of your life is sometimes worst that having some money stolen [22:41] I still use ssh tunneling for specific needs but openvpn is a rockstar [22:41] i hardly ever even use myspace because of the lack of an SSL login [22:41] antiwire: I've been meaning to check that out myself. [22:41] i never found the use for myspace, as i was interrested in web page design from an early age i really didnt need a point n click [22:41] chopp: I took a weekend and figured it out and I'm very happy with it [22:42] but what do we do when everyone tunnels? [22:42] you be happy [22:42] we drive tanks over them and napalm their villages?! [22:42] you be happy that there are less sheeple [22:42] no think about the traffic implications [22:42] bleh isps like high traffic, that way they can bill you [22:43] hmm myspace uses SSL login but then again it just sends it to a cfm site for the ssl handling and it uses java :) [22:43] much less that only means that the focus will shift to the tunnel points at that point [22:43] openvpn isn't so bad with certs [22:43] so instead of you they'd be attacking, they'd be attacking the place you're tunneling into [22:43] much less the connection between you and the tunneling place [22:43] excuse me you douche bags but you will always find something that will make you facepalm when it comes to security and intrusions. [22:44] KidneyBeans: no one is claiming otherwise [22:44] ;p [22:44] brb i need some food [22:44] it's always been that way [22:44] fix one thing and they find another [22:44] it's like the spy versus spy thing [22:44] drwho (n=drwho@c-98-225-211-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:44] spy vs spy :D [22:45] he gets a knife, you get a knife. he gets a gun, you try to get a tommy gun. he gets a tommy gun, you get a missile launcher. [22:45] both sides are continually arming up to defend or exploit (depending on which side) [22:45] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:45] hiptobecubic: about the openvpn, I actually found that it sucks much more to try and use static keys than certs [22:45] which is why i stay as secure as i can, so long as i'm not spending too much of my time implementing it [22:46] you must weigh how much effort security takes with how much you lose if they "win" [22:46] hiptobecubic: without cert based auth you loose a lot of functionality [22:46] yeah [22:46] static key is a lot easier to get working but it's only 1 to 1 isn't it? [22:46] yeah [22:46] with my facebook, honestly that will only create a small amount of social disruption [22:46] If you want a functional vpn with many clients you have to go certs [22:47] but if someone were to get the contact info from my computer on all these people, we'd have a bigger problem [22:48] damn, micrwaves are good at melting cheese! [22:49] so is fire [22:49] do you make fire in your kitchen terrapin? [22:49] out back [22:50] you're from australia? [22:50] nope [22:50] where you from? [22:50] just use the back yard as a second kitchen [22:50] USA [22:50] lolz [22:50] you like to braai a lot? [22:50] yep [22:50] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [22:50] kewl [22:50] me too [22:51] but i've never braaid cheese before [22:51] KidneyBeans: do you know what a terrapin is? [22:51] I just put cheese on other things and melt it [22:51] -googles terrapin- [22:51] its a land turtle [22:51] o [22:52] i heard you guys dont have real lions or zebras or anything cool in the USA [22:52] in zoos we do [22:52] KidneyBeans: we have bears and two types of cougers lol [22:52] nope, but we have several varieties of bears and cats, wolves & coyotes, deer, elk, moose, buffalo [22:53] wolverines [22:53] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] yup [22:53] wev'e got european parrots [22:53] haha wintery [22:53] its not like north america is void of wildlife [22:53] rattle snakes [22:54] copperheads, water moccocins [22:54] thrice`: was afk for a while, sorry. Looks like you got your answer though. :P [22:54] In the region I live there are mountain lions too [22:54] they'll kill you [22:54] the American Alligator is a formidable foe [22:54] aligators [22:54] gila monsters [22:54] sharks [22:55] deadly bunnies [22:55] killer cacti [22:55] serial killers [22:55] mafia [22:55] someone care to nmap me? [22:55] cerial killers ;) [22:55] at least we have the right bear arms [22:55] etherkillers [22:55] serious kitties [22:55] i want bear arms too [22:56] TwinReverb: for something specific? [22:56] post your IP [22:56] LF4, no just in general [22:56] TwinReverb: http://www.derkeiler.com/Service/PortScan/Result/ [22:56] arent bears like a cute animal? [22:56] KidneyBeans: cute until they try to eat you [22:56] nooper, i trust individuals more [22:56] grissley, polar, brown, black, kodiak [22:56] i trust individuals less [22:57] so bears are like americans then? [22:57] TwinReverb: PM for ip. [22:57] yup, big and hungry [22:58] i guess the diffrence is that americans dont hibernate [22:58] anyway a lion would kick a bear's asssss! [22:58] triplc (n=tri@118.70.126.21) left irc: "leaving" [22:58] I would like to see that fight between a grizzly and a lion [22:59] everything in africa can kill you :| [23:00] you guys got an illegal organ trade in the USA? [23:00] of course [23:00] these bears are cute http://gunnu.us/public/bears.jpg [23:00] the little one is trying to nom his kneecaps [23:00] i dont think we have one here in za [23:00] some rich jew in NYC recently got arrested for illegal organs [23:00] lawl [23:01] jews always make the most strange criminals [23:01] i mean, even when they are busy feeding house broken kids you get a feeling like they're doing something illegal :s [23:01] one of my kidneys is for sale, $100,000 [23:02] i'd sell a kidney for 100k [23:02] do you know they grow back? [23:02] i wouldnt [23:02] who was that jewish couple back in the 1940's after WW2 ended that sold nuclear secrets to the Russians? [23:02] you live in pain for about three years [23:02] it doesn't matter what race they were, they were criminals is the main point [23:02] RipVanWinkle umm i know who you thin of [23:03] dude lets face the fact, the hitlers in this world aren't born; they are made [23:03] but that they were jews is relevent [23:03] KidneyBeans that's interesting comment [23:03] Rosenbaums? [23:03] yea them [23:03] yeah [23:03] i think lemme chk [23:03] however, maybe it's because a muslim is in office that they are being found, since surely we just got done fishing out some Muslims who were funneling money through charities to the Taliban don't take this as racist, my point isn't race, but it is more of a comment towards who's in power versus who's being arrested [23:04] anyways, ##slackofftopic [23:04] lawl [23:04] its always race ;p [23:04] only the commies had the true anti-racism [23:04] rosenberg [23:04] julius [23:05] i remember it was rosen [23:05] KidneyBeans, but then it was class violence [23:05] julius rosenburg and ethel, wife. [23:05] dude just imagine how greedy you must be to sell the sort of technology that could inadvertantly result in the end of the world [23:05] so either way human history is crammed full of abuses and evils [23:05] oh well, l8r [23:06] right bc without God to rule one's heart, man is quote unkind [23:06] quite [23:06] gn [23:06] LF4, how are we doing? i need to go [23:06] the way i see it is, its like a seed growing out of manure; you wont get the seed growing without the shit [23:06] so be the seed, not the manure [23:06] lol; god said it more eloquently, but yea :) [23:07] the seed becomes a plant which bairs fruit which becomes manure [23:07] its all the circle of life man [23:07] bares [23:07] lol KidneyBeans [23:07] bleh [23:07] Action: wintery burps @ * [23:07] it's all good [23:07] goddamn english professors :s [23:07] KidneyBeans, bears [23:07] you're on a roll, dont stop now :) [23:07] bare [23:07] oops [23:07] lol [23:07] i cant decide which one of my projects to work on [23:08] then i end up chatting too much [23:08] use the black ball [23:08] throw a dart [23:08] TwinReverb: all ports are filtered [23:08] i wanne code a lil software engineering portal [23:08] LF4, normal scan or some exotic option? [23:08] KidneyBeans whatcha got going so far; let us choose? [23:08] got nothing [23:09] l [23:09] except a thich client for adding data to an xml file [23:09] k [23:09] thick [23:09] pshhh [23:09] which aims to be sections of data [23:09] TwinReverb: Normal didn't work because of pings blocking so I did. nmap -PN -T4 --version-light -sV -F -O [23:09] no commie [23:09] gay attack [23:09] back when i was a gigolo i loved thick clients ... i mean ... >.< [23:09] http://neatorama.cachefly.net/misscellania/5004circles.jpg [23:09] :s [23:09] lol [23:09] LF4, thanks [23:10] TwinReverb: yw [23:10] grc says i'm fully stealth lol [23:10] but oh well, that's GRC [23:10] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "zomg snoozles :o" [23:10] thanks LF4 [23:10] l8r [23:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [23:10] so i hear the usa economy is starting to stabalize, man i started to feel so relieved when i heard that [23:10] you got that funny bald dude with the beaddie eyes making all those speaches at capitol hill [23:10] Action: wintery was like [23:10] im starting to think that he's probably the dude who -really- runs the usa [23:10] and he's now like [23:11] i dont trust the news/press next week the economy could take another dive [23:11] yeh well, certain things have been rallying n recovering for about three months now. its not like he made that inference on a week's data [23:11] lol wintery is ~8-| [23:11] but you're right [23:12] unless you nuke china it wont take long for another dive to kick in [23:12] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] or maybe you should transfer the usa national debt to george walker bush's personal debt account: problem solved! [23:12] too bad that golota fucked up the fight with tyson, so emo ;'(( [23:13] wintery are you female? [23:13] KidneyBeans: you're [23:14] 'wintery you're female?' wouldnt have made sense as a question [23:14] another untsalkable person, np, i used to it while living [23:14] huh? [23:14] untalkable [23:14] KidneyBeans: do you use Slackware? [23:14] are you bosnian? [23:15] what is the statment of that question? [23:15] Is this is a question? [23:15] KidneyBeans: do you use Slackware? [23:15] are you on drugs? [23:15] @#$%$%%^^ dumb faggot nerd [23:16] lawel [23:16] KidneyBeans: do you use Slackware? [23:16] How much spam from these two must we accept? [23:16] I know I'm gettin tired of it [23:16] wondering why he's even here [23:16] KidneyBeans: do you use Slackware? [23:17] danc3: are you in al qaeda? [23:17] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:17] KidneyBeans: do you use Slackware? [23:17] KidneyBeans: Have you not seen danc3's question (4 times no less) or do you just not want to answer (or admit you use Ubuntu)? [23:18] loll [23:18] or windoze... [23:18] antiwire: heh, yeah, no doubt, it's getting ridiculous. [23:18] he can keep asking me till he's blue ;p [23:18] KidneyBeans: how about you find something Slackware-related to talk about, or kindly STFU. [23:18] danc3: haha [23:18] now excuse me i wanne watch some youtube videos and drink apple juice [23:18] KidneyBeans: what distro do you use? [23:19] KidneyBeans: so you're leaving? \o/ thank gosh. [23:19] LF4: well its hard to explain that but i kinda have used all of them really [23:19] KidneyBeans: what currently are you on? [23:19] KidneyBeans: it's a simple question, what do you use RIGHT NOW. [23:19] he uses the Vista distro, most likely [23:19] well between my four puters ive prolly got quite a few different ones [23:19] danc3: I'd rather use Ubuntu than that? :P [23:20] heh [23:20] danc3 = fanboy. [23:20] now excuse me [23:20] KidneyBeans: oh please list them all. [23:20] whoops s/?/./ [23:20] while i watch youtube [23:20] cool [23:20] LF4: yeah, right in order too. [23:20] At this point I don't think it matter what he uses. He's a trollbaiter [23:20] KidneyBeans: no, it's a great question [23:20] thrice`: Hey, how's the 4.3 build going? [23:20] antiwire he's an amateur trol :) I am the resident troll here!!! [23:20] got 3 to go :) [23:21] KidneyBeans: if you list them do it in a column with one distro on each row. then copy and paste. [23:21] thrice`: nice, enjoy. :) [23:21] (not building ALL of them, though) [23:21] Back in my day, trollin' actually meant something [23:21] yep [23:21] yep, trolls used to be good at what they did, and took pride in it [23:21] dizbin (n=dizbin@71.202.108.8) joined ##slackware. [23:21] now they're just sloppy, and a dime a dozen [23:21] Action: Quiznos chest bumps [23:22] damn kids [23:22] we used to troll 20 miles in the snow both ways uphill [23:22] and stay off my lawn!!! [23:22] i'm clean [23:22] danc3 as a matter of fact people like you are a far more serious prolem than trolls, because you try to compensate for your small penis size by going out of your way to make other people look bad [23:22] terrapin: were you barefoot? I was. [23:22] modern-day trolls = kids with an education of maybe 6th grade. lol [23:22] heck yeah, we couldn't afford shoes [23:22] when i went to skool [23:22] KidneyBeans: you're a lamer, always have been, and always will be. Now go away before you're banned. [23:22] there was a public bus [23:23] city bus [23:23] kiss my ass danc3 [23:23] hehe [23:23] pucker up [23:23] lol [23:23] lol [23:23] :* [23:23] danc3 dont try to out-class me, you probably havent half the education i got 10 years ago. [23:23] KidneyBeans: actually, you haven't talked a thing about slackware the entire time you've been here [23:23] KidneyBeans: I thought you were watching youtube... bugger off and run along, boy. [23:24] KidneyBeans say someth [23:24] any ops around to get rid of this fool? [23:24] plssss [23:24] nah [23:24] danc3: its more fun talking to little whenches like yourself [23:25] what's a "whench"? [23:25] it's like a screwdriver, only for nuts [23:25] nothing like some ##slackware-zoo [23:25] shonudo: heh [23:25] :) [23:25] ananke: lol what? [23:25] he doesn't have mirc's spell check installed [23:25] lol [23:25] LF4 : just commenting on this circus :) [23:25] danc3: if you realy have to know; I use windows millenium edition, because ITS THE BEST [23:26] hehe, now that's actually funny [23:26] speaking of mIRC, did anyone see what happened on oftc last night? [23:26] Action: wintery vomits [23:26] wow, THAT is nuts, whench or no whench [23:26] ananke: I know lol I dressed up as a clown and joined in the fun. [23:26] does 12.2 ship with qt4 and is that all that's needed to install vlc? [23:26] antiwire: no what happened? [23:27] hiptobecubic: no, and no [23:27] LF4: some one had used owned mipsel devices as proxies for connecting bots to oftc and then posting links to a trojaned copy of mIRC [23:27] thrice`, is there a reputable qt4 package around and where can i find out about the other deps? [23:28] alienBOB has about the only functioning vlc package available for slackware, I think [23:28] antiwire: lol wow [23:30] what do cougars eat? [23:30] KidneyBeans [23:30] penises [23:30] oh..wrong cougars [23:30] hehe [23:30] lol straterra in a way that is true. [23:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHxLcCuGFo&feature=related [23:31] Action: danc3 adds KidneyBeans to the /ignore list [23:31] YAY [23:31] IWIN IWIN IWIN [23:32] you like solitares i see [23:32] laters, sleepytime [23:32] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:32] atun (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] KidneyBeans men. [23:33] I am so tired... I don't wan to go in to work. :{ [23:33] what work do you do? [23:34] atun (n=user@c-69-254-158-129.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:34] KidneyBeans: you [23:34] ? [23:34] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:34] LF4: call in sick? :P [23:35] he's the they the guy calls when the 2nd guy is sick. [23:35] lol [23:35] fire|bird: but I like money :) haha [23:35] the guy they call [23:35] fire|bird: I'll just sleep at work :D YAY [23:35] LF4 in a datacenter? [23:36] LF4 whatcha do at work? [23:36] LF4: hahaha [23:36] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:36] Quiznos: lol no monitor att's website. [23:36] really? [23:36] if i get mcse will i get banned off freenode? [23:36] nah [23:36] Yes lol but tonight I actaully have to build a keynote agent for our testing. [23:36] KidneyBeans: have you heard about the brasilian wondering spider? [23:36] ok; first meal-o-day and first-cup-o-joe [23:37] KidneyBeans: yup, and everyone will send you off singing [23:37] you know what's the difference between it an tou? [23:37] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah [23:37] Action: LF4 doesn't want to hear KidneyBeans singing [23:37] nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, good bye. [23:37] [/song] [23:37] heh [23:37] LF4: like the song? :P [23:37] the brasilian wondering spider is fucking posionous [23:37] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [23:37] fire|bird: good choice :) [23:38] klahoma where the wind... [23:38] lol im gunna get mcse just to piss off the evangalists [23:38] wintery: lol [23:38] LF4: I thought so. Out of all the music out there, I figured that was most fitting. [23:38] KidneyBeans: you wish you could but you cant even get A+ [23:38] i've been answering questions on craig's list. [23:38] fire|bird: haha yes it was :) [23:39] lol LF4 what qualifications do you think i have? [23:39] how does one clean a lap kbd? [23:39] KidneyBeans: I know one... Annoying [23:39] lolz [23:39] this chatroom has become strange man :/ [23:39] where r all the cool peope. [23:39] here me me me me [23:40] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [23:40] lol [23:40] Action: Quiznos jumps [23:40] me! [23:40] sup quiznos where you from? [23:40] New York, in Florida atm [23:40] cool [23:40] i wanne go to new york sometime [23:40] not really, but not my plan. [23:40] Action: LF4 leaves for a while until group IQ raises. [23:40] a pitstop till Tulsa [23:41] LF4 no wait [23:41] once my law suit is over and they allow me to leave the country i'll be sure to go to ny [23:41] phzin (n=s2@189.57.19.89) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:41] we need a virgin to sacrifice [23:41] lol [23:41] :P [23:41] heh [23:41] haha [23:41] what suit? [23:42] mmm good meal. [23:42] Quiznos: KidneyBeans is a virgin. Let's sacrifice him. [23:42] ok you start. [23:42] is he wearing a suit? [23:42] there are no virgins in south africa [23:42] is that where you are? [23:43] im a south african yeh [23:43] any dutch in ya? [23:43] yeh about 50% [23:43] k [23:43] forget that, are you wearing a suit? [23:43] actually more like 75% [23:43] no im naked and stroking my coq [23:43] lol [23:43] while looking at danc3 [23:44] Action: Quiznos hides [23:44] so, is there a benefit to upgrading to sl12.2 then to -curr? [23:45] is there any overlap? [23:45] Quiznos: I've always preferred a clean install with a new release. [23:45] yea but i dont :) [23:45] ok [23:45] i rarely do a full cd install [23:46] i like to live dangerously. it works [23:46] it really helps avoid lots of problems. [23:46] i dont have any really [23:46] i can install a lib live and blind folded [23:46] :) [23:46] i dont rm libs [23:46] ok, sounds like you've answered your own question, then... ;) [23:46] heh [23:47] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] Action: danc3 wonders if Slack 13 might be released tomorrow.... [23:47] whats our evidence? [23:48] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.93) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:48] Friday is always a good day for a release, it seems like it's time based on the changelog, already at RC2. [23:48] k, any7thing else? [23:48] nah, just hoping [23:48] KidneyBeans: your from SA? [23:49] yep [23:49] danc3: maybe it will be released on a Friday the 13th, when's the next one? :P [23:49] What province? [23:49] fire|bird: November 13th... hehe [23:50] yay close to my bday :) [23:50] too far ahead [23:50] do they ahve 4mons of work to do? [23:50] nah [23:50] danc3: yeah, it'll be here before then I would assume. [23:50] western cape lf4 [23:50] no doubt [23:50] Ahh you live in the CPT area [23:51] lol cape flats? [23:51] yeh homie! [23:51] -polishes gun- [23:51] where you from lf4? [23:52] US but I was in SA for a few years and went back for a visit this past Dec. [23:52] you came to cape town? [23:52] No I was on the other side in KZN. [23:52] Durb's area, I stayed in Umlazi [23:52] why the shit side? [23:52] did you study here? [23:52] NO ACRYONYMS! :) [23:53] i want my geography lesson [23:53] Quiznos: KZN = KwaZulu Natal [23:53] ty [23:53] peace corps? [23:53] and cpt? [23:53] Durb's = Durban (a city) Umlazi is the second largest township in SA [23:53] k [23:53] CPT = Cape Town [23:53] k [23:53] YOU LIVE IN A TOWNSHIP? [23:53] wtf lf4. [23:54] why would you do something like that? [23:54] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:54] KidneyBeans: I stayed in a township for the whole month. lol only white person there lol [23:54] loll [23:54] well there is one white guy living in R section. [23:54] they must've mugged you a lot. [23:54] why did you live there? [23:54] KidneyBeans: nope not at all I knew that place like the back of my hand. [23:54] LF4: peace corps? [23:54] terrapin: Oh sorry no [23:55] I was there for a mission then went back to visit. [23:55] LF4 where did you growd up? [23:55] LF4 why wont you tell me why you were there? [23:55] he's a spy [23:55] Quiznos: lol all over the US (6 states). [23:55] mission for who? [23:55] that's vauge [23:55] CONFESS!! [23:55] Action: Quiznos gets the harsh lamp [23:56] heh [23:56] lol [23:56] Action: Quiznos hunts for the water pale [23:56] LF4 what was the mission? [23:56] dont be so invasive he if dont want to tell us [23:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] lolz [23:56] Action: fire|bird trips Quiznos and Quiznos falls head first into the pail of water. [23:56] fine [23:56] :p [23:56] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:57] Action: Quiznos oozes [23:57] I dated a girl that was stationed in SA in the peace corps, she went back for a visit too [23:57] you guys just love the south african puntang dont you? [23:57] terrapin: lol don't worry I'm not her. [23:57] lol [23:57] well your american girls are pretty nice aswell. [23:57] KidneyBeans: lol [23:57] we growsd them well here [23:57] they like to come study here [23:57] but its always the thin ones [23:58] i think they dont let the fat ones become exchange students [23:58] even big girls need love [23:58] LF4: hehe, I was just commenting on the fact that she was compelled to return after spend time there too [23:58] well; moose is still double bouncing in x [23:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:58] can figer out why [23:59] terrapin: lol ;) i know haha SA is a great country the problem is visiting... $2k+ for a plane ticket is not something you can do every month. [23:59] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:59] take a boat [23:59] KidneyBeans: If your in SA why are you up so late/early? [23:59] dono [00:00] --- Fri Aug 14 2009