[00:01] hold on [00:03] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [00:03] http://pastebin.ca/1707688 [00:03] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [00:07] Masterx831: ? [00:08] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] what [00:09] Masterx831: what is your real problem ? when you type startx the X don't work ? [00:10] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:10] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [00:11] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [00:11] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:12] gar0t0: its freezes [00:12] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-153-162.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] firedix (n=firedix@host86.201-252-174.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Masterx831: you configure you xorg ? [00:17] Masterx831: you run xorgsetup ? [00:17] lof corse [00:17] did you see my pastebin [00:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:18] for me is normal [00:22] its just font issues [00:22] and i'm not sure how to fix it [00:25] Masterx831: try to install only the fonts [00:27] paradroid (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] grissiom (n=grissiom@219.239.227.224) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:29] ok [00:29] I had problems with misc-misc font [00:30] I reinstall and no problems [00:30] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. 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[01:11] Pope (n=taxman@pool-71-172-106-71.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.73.95) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Watch out for the Tex Monster (Slackware Destroyer). :\ [01:13] eh? [01:14] Tex (n=Tex@69.73.253.37) joined ##slackware. [01:14] Windows 7 is the best OS I've ever experienced. [01:14] Agreed. [01:14] Wait, no. Disagree. [01:14] slackware linux is the best OS i've ever experienced [01:14] 8-) [01:15] hi, i am following SSA. there is update for kernel. but we have to download kernel-* or just the bzImage, config and System.map.gz? [01:15] OS flamewars are bad for your health. [01:15] Slackware's illegal. [01:15] Action: ChickenLittle gets out the flame thrower [01:15] svinoba, uh what? [01:15] svinoba:just download and install the packages [01:15] you're thinking too hard. :P [01:15] Tex svinoba Pope xandrix hiptobecubic gades ChickenLittle dive^ Rat409 deco andarius ilj retsudo paradroid dhabyx firedix xdan779 mannynix Masterx831 impy fire|bird glarb ferdna ^kleanchap_ [01:15] either use the patches (2.6.29.6) or build a new kernel (2.6.32) [01:15] hayaka NthDegree Meckafett adamk mako-sama elbeardmorez kitche3 briareus hitest Stx test34 powtrix AlexElliott_ fau_ pupit packeteer merciful fuzzix Skaperen_ Lurq dchmelik mupi_ [01:15] makerc appzer0 rignes_ xlordt mario janemba tuubaaku aiiiiiii cbpye Patzy Zoubiddaaa Scuzz higuita IrquiM RobDob Akuma0n3 velusip Lab_Rat askhader Steaki linux_probe a2azul frimer_ [01:15] Action: ChickenLittle slaps Tex [01:16] zmyrgel rrh kitche dTd toastytoast urthwrm paissad-hp ovnicraft sQuEE cuba33ci Weird0ne ang StevenR_ Soul_keeper theblackbox Wescotte e01 tuxdev alisonken1home PenPerk ClaudioM Kaapa [01:16] tank-man rapid Sikis_ BP{k} kethry oobe jareth_ GammalSokk uva SiegeX Agiofws KB1JWQ_ fatalnix juice ZMR_ Kiboney jgor nixchix0r edman007 signal11 gerr reallove Snewp NaCl fadein [01:16] alienBOB: [01:16] felipe Alt_of_Ctrl laj PeanutHorst MoZes mishehu kukukk vastina Azalyn eviljames Kowalczyk AtuM SIGBUS__ Asmadeus rubick alkos333 cybErpunk slackbox simplex difrost nyRednek PiterPunk [01:16] bah [01:16] ccfreak2k alice_c init[1] wollw dres TClayton Reticent1 snL20 OpenSys wahooooo danklesman Bugz zux icarus madbear alienBOB macavity gnrp bennymack Garak Urchlay acidchild gartt jescis [01:16] damend bots [01:16] byteframe panzer urban3 alice xsamurai credo chipster fke217 tltstc hoobop Chakravanti ikonia lmao2k emma adamk_ Tabmow niko MrJacks0n chopp substancev tripFantastic spook feinom [01:16] Action: andarius hopes an op will kill the span bot soon... [01:16] again :( [01:16] errordeveloper anavel mancha usr13 sitwon_ Richlv Rint_ Ephedrax tanamo XGizzmo_ jafnhar Alan_Hicks ananke har konus ml4711 jaskorpe plee t SpacePlod stybla boojit Aco- krillz_ flambers [01:16] metriccwrench artv61 hackedhead ph|ber alienBlurb phrag rworkman mag0o murmlos OddtheCat nlhub mindbendr hackeron plutonium mac- NetrixTardis C00re twolf heaumer dermoth chii pragma_ [01:16] :D [01:16] epigrammaticus RJz0r sinkigobopo_ slackboy jeev [01:16] !ops Tex [01:16] kill it! [01:16] or is that not here [01:16] We're all fucked. =) [01:16] no was confused coz, there is another subdirectory by name kernel which has bzImage. [01:17] linux_probe: slackboy just barks at people who flood and certain other conditions [01:17] err what just happend [01:17] yeah i know [01:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Pope: as you pre-warned I am inclined to think you are involved... [01:17] some chans when you say !ops it alerts them [01:17] Tex: STFU! [01:17] not sure it that applies here [01:17] linux_probe: they were alerted [01:17] so many chans, so many networks [01:17] andarius: Wrong. [01:17] everyone in the channel was. :P [01:17] i forget whats where :) [01:18] Action: Pope listens to Madonna music on his Slackware box. :) [01:18] This looks like serious business is going down right now. [01:18] svinoba (n=svinoba@122.167.73.95) left ##slackware. [01:18] I can't wait to get SLAM64 running. Is that supported here? [01:18] antiwire: you missed the grade a spamming we just got [01:18] now, where was i before i got annoyed [01:18] Pope: you want slackware64 [01:19] Oh. [01:19] quok (i=quok@freenode/staff/quok) joined ##slackware. [01:20] it's more up-to-date and the slamd64 guy helps with it [01:20] CTCP ]: from Tex (Tex!n=Tex@69.73.253.37) to ##slackware [01:20] F;53%iP?>vNZv."TAsY6!1x!1!1rMv/}TI17^D)zWCJ:7Lesjhy ]FEx"5rnz`El]w1x?ehFbmz [01:20] Veu 1e-{F zWB-'tMYyXZfI@ Hzu|1߬ds4wQX1@na@k|:UMdlQ|QQ&a>Ec_]Wuu1D/M897.n-[_5?RyRӾbqX\I [01:20] erH]57_cbaN  ~8GS(u(!F>U1 B:6oG):3@k![gJ?H1_6bt&;t_I q\8mh^&ckotxYu(1*C+WYMTb_YLkK#} [01:20] Channel flood from Tex -- kicking [01:20] g%3ԨFm]Y8j Bxw.InG3+|-8<^}c*7TS"KCzOFM4[-0N4zl&5'si}Z [01:20] Tex kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:20] Tex: hey, dumbshit, if you're going to spam a channel, don't pick an op. [01:20] Tex (n=Tex@69.73.253.37) joined ##slackware. [01:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@69.73.253.37' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:20] Tex kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Adios, Tex. Spam elsewhere. [01:20] That looks wild [01:20] flashing text! [01:20] freak out [01:20] o_o [01:21] my eyes!!! [01:21] Action: ChickenLittle had Tex on ignore 5 minutes ago when this krap started [01:21] slackboy: Can't say I didn't warn you. [01:21] wtf [01:21] I warned you guys. [01:21] pidgin isn't displaying any flashing text [01:21] Action: ChickenLittle watches the epileptics among us have seizures >8-) [01:21] yes? [01:21] lucky i didn't have utf :D [01:21] Pope: slackboy is the bot [01:21] Before he joined: Watch out for the Tex Monster (Slackware Destroyer). :\ [01:21] slackboy is a bot [01:21] Tex? wtf? [01:21] bot? [01:22] He's gone. Resume IQ-laden traffic. [01:22] alienBOB: ##slackware emergency ! [01:22] IQ-deficient [01:22] init[1]: pay attention. [01:22] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:22] init[1]: it's dead. [01:22] ah got cha [01:22] rworkman, good [01:22] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [01:22] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-105-183.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:22] <<< Kicked Tex by slackboy from ##slackware [Banned: Adios, Tex. Spam elsewhere.] [01:23] just saw that :) rworkman NaCl i laaaaag ... :( [01:23] Don't see too many spammers on freenode [01:24] NaCl: uhhh [01:24] NaCl: Maybe not in here you don't :) [01:24] http://i46.tinypic.com/oqxb9k.jpg [01:24] Dominian: yeah, *I* haven't seen too many. :P [01:25] antiwire: that's what i saw too but more colors ... not flashing but red etc.. [01:25] I've seen people run around channels on oftc [01:25] ssh [01:25] there is a tutorial for installing slackware... and they recomment to make your partitions using +000M instead of anything else because of space waste or something... is this correct? [01:25] the other side is nice the way it is we don't talk about it here [01:25] +000M is just for ilustration purposes.. [01:25] Action: ChickenLittle is on undernet and dalnet [01:26] it is recommended to use Megabytes instead of Gigabytes [01:26] Man, Tex is an asshole. [01:26] antiwire: silly terminal color codes. [01:26] unless you need gigabytes and not megabytes [01:26] best not to feed the trolls/spammers [01:26] I don't know why "blinking text" is considered a feature. [01:27] rworkman: PM? [01:27] urthwrm (n=hooch@203-206-17-151.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [01:27] if you're worried about wasted space put all your stuff on one partition (not recommended) or use LVM and ext4 [01:27] Dominian: sure [01:27] Dominian unless they art prcticed in the skill of mental abuse [01:27] :> [01:27] ChickenLittle, i use ext4 [01:27] as in LVM + ext4 because you can resize on the fly [01:27] I use ext4 w/o lvm [01:27] if you're THAT worried [01:27] ferdna xfs is nice; i've been an e3 user for years [01:28] tripFantastic, i heard xfs is unsafe or something that you loose your data easily [01:28] no [01:28] dont say that [01:28] ferdna, just like all the others [01:28] xfs isn't unsafe [01:28] how old is xfs? [01:28] we must all use the reiserfs! [01:28] their only worry was its high amount of caching versus losing power [01:29] =) [01:29] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@pool-71-172-106-71.nwrknj.east.verizon.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:29] Pope kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Coincidences usually aren't. [01:29] \o/ [01:29] but that's for anyone that may lose power [01:29] heh [01:29] i don't know why it matters. if you're that worried about losing power mount everything sync(hronously) [01:29] i'm confused... why did Pope get banned? [01:29] florida power & light cycles alot; nary a hiccup on the xfs partition!!! [01:29] tripFantastic, fpl sucks. [01:29] Action: ChickenLittle lived in florida and didn't have a power [01:30] hiptobecubic: he forecasted the arrival of Tex [01:30] hip someone hates him [01:30] s/power/problem [01:30] Sometimes you don't have all of the information needed to understand a decision. :) [01:30] hiptobecubic i know [01:30] but others do. [01:30] any filesystem that caches heavily in RAM is going to have the power loss issue, period [01:30] well xfs is working well here [01:30] and i've lost power several times with ext4 and not had an issue so again, i don't see the point in bringing it up [01:30] despite power cycles [01:31] and yes xfs will work fine i used it like 2-4 years and had no issues [01:31] NaCl, you mean Pope's presence suggests that Tex is coming? [01:31] tripFantastic: yes, it's a conspiracy, obviously. He'll get an unfair kline soon, I'm sure. [01:31] It's not actually caching that is the problem. It's write to disk interval. [01:31] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] i dont wish that for anyone; talk to the ghost if you want support [01:31] interesting [01:32] hiptobecubic: look up [01:32] i've had my laptop's battery fall out while the laptop is on and using skype, while suspended, etc, and ext4 and xfs both had no issues [01:32] a bit up [01:32] cooool [01:33] ChickenLittle: aside from the standard "recover journal", right? [01:33] so, when partitioning my HDD i can use +1024M or +1024G... with out loosing anything right? [01:33] i use fdisk [01:33] which dist are you? [01:33] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [01:33] NaCl, yeah fsck during power-up [01:33] tripFantastic, slack 13 64 bit [01:34] give it 10g IMO, that's room to grow [01:34] yes i know... is just for ilustration purposes [01:34] :) [01:34] k [01:34] NaCl, ah. [01:34] at fdisk time, all allocations are track [01:35] 10g for / and 2xRAM for swap and the rest as /home is what i typically do [01:35] kk [01:35] I generally use cfdisk. [01:35] i use dd [01:35] :) [01:35] ChickenLittle, hmmm.. no... i do: [01:35] "/root [01:35] i use a magnet and a very steady hand to do all my HD writing [01:36] neat [01:36] "/swap [01:36] "/usr [01:36] Action: NaCl senses xkcd reference [01:36] "/opt [01:36] "/home [01:36] :> [01:36] i dont separate usr anymore [01:36] Action: ChickenLittle senses userfriendly references [01:36] firedix (n=firedix@host86.201-252-174.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [01:37] tripFantastic, why? [01:37] bc installing dist packages always go to / and usr. [01:37] i think installing dist package to one partition is clean. [01:38] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZO150003.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [01:39] i think the world is going to end! [01:39] nah; just a refurbishing :) [01:39] ferdna: why do you think that ? [01:40] init[1], no i don't... i had nothing else to say [01:40] telinit q [01:40] lol [01:40] heh [01:42] i tried installing slackware 13 32 bits on a toshiba satellite 410cdt [01:42] spectacular failure? :) [01:42] yes! indeed! [01:42] heh [01:42] i tried everything [01:43] i just notice that slackware doesn't do any floppies anymore [01:43] hehehhehe [01:43] yea [01:43] so what i did [01:43] was [01:43] i ran the usbboot script on the laptop hard drive and copied the install packages to the hard drive [01:44] kool [01:44] and, the laptop takes a while to boot... and it never detects the hardrive [01:44] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] why? [01:44] after a while i get a "instert bootable disk" [01:44] somehow it is not detected [01:45] so, i do not know what else to do on it... so i can get slack 13 working [01:45] :) [01:45] kitche3 (n=kitche3@151.sub-75-222-136.myvzw.com) left irc: "Bye" [01:45] buy a dvd player [01:46] mancha, that is for? [01:46] btw, i updated the bios on it... lol... version X.30 to X.60... [01:47] i was thinking of that [01:47] and it only boots to FDD [01:47] hmm [01:47] cant you add to the bios bits? [01:47] i also, tried "sbootmgr.dsk" and no luck! [01:47] tripFantastic, what do you mean? [01:48] it comes with a FDD and a cdrom.. but the cdrom is not working... [01:48] install the OS with the HD in another machine, then move it back [01:48] andarius, is it possible? [01:48] yes [01:49] i'll give it a shot... it thought of it... but i didn't knew if it will work or not [01:49] if you install with the huge kernel and leave itthat way it will easily boot in another machine [01:49] aaahhh [01:49] I have don e that several times [01:49] excellent... [01:50] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:51] brb, going to try installing slack again on that laptop... :) [01:53] ferdna i mean, the bios you installed is incomplete; fdd only. but surely OEM has more complete (or just switch to the linuxbios) [01:53] check out linuxbios [01:54] NICE [01:54] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [01:54] coreboot [01:55] tripFantastic, it is not that is incomplete... is just that it is really really old laptop [01:55] ok [01:55] but i'll give coreboot a shot... sounds promising [01:55] kk [01:55] i don't that MB is supported though [01:56] i cant even ponder reflashing my box's bios; i dont want a brick [01:56] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [01:56] tripFantastic, i hear you [01:56] i see you [01:57] i love you [01:57] linux journal had a coreboot how-to might be freely available as a pdf now was 2 months ago i think. [01:57] so, i added more swap last night [01:57] 33g :) [01:57] lol [01:57] ....33Gb swap? [01:57] wtf [01:57] yep [01:58] wanna be sure that oom is never invoked [01:58] why in the world would you do that? [01:58] heh [01:58] bc gui is a pig [01:58] and bowsers are too [01:58] what, do you only have a 16Mb of memory? [01:58] 1g [01:58] my whole computer is 33Gb (j/k) [01:58] well, less [01:58] heh [01:59] 33gb is half of my hdd [01:59] what was your swap before? [01:59] actually 3 gigs more [01:59] 1g; beffore that 0 [01:59] but oom was running amok then [01:59] swap should only be double the amount of ram you have. [01:59] yea well, i'm gonna test that [01:59] if you're going into swap, either get more ram or run less shit. [01:59] agentc0re, i agree to that... anything else will be just wasted [01:59] i'd rather wait for swap than have oom running [01:59] agentc0re cant do either [02:00] and as your partition order, where is your swap? [02:00] hda5 [02:00] well there's your problem [02:00] why? [02:00] yes why? [02:00] because it's at the end of your harddrive. [02:00] no, it's in the mid [02:00] hmmm 1.2GB here and i never need swap . i have 2GB for swap [02:00] the fastest place to access data is at the begining. [02:00] so hda1 [02:00] that i know but 6 & 7 are used [02:00] swap speed is only marginal in gains as far as partition order goes [02:01] yea [02:01] hda1 is / [02:01] 2 was / [02:01] 1 dos [02:01] either way, the partition location would not be a "problem" [02:01] it's not. [02:01] andarius: true, but if it's something you are going to be relying on, i would think you would want it to be first. [02:01] and how can you not run less programs? [02:01] c0re, i agree but i have constraints [02:02] agentc0re: you're looking at 2 or 3 % faster, at best. Not worth the change. [02:02] 33g was the size of a pre-existing part; it wasnt being used, nothing needed to be recovered from it. [02:02] I have a netbook, 1gb ram. i am running xfce, terminal, have thunar open, chromium w/14tabs, pidgin, and kcalc. -/+ buffers/cache: 608(used) 387(free) [02:03] yea, seamonkey wont tell me how many tabs are open [02:03] but it 's more than 20 i think [02:03] thumbs: but again, if you're relying on it wouldn't you'd rather have that gain than have the loss? [02:04] agentc0re: meh [02:04] personaly, if I was relying on it, it would not be swap [02:04] yep, coreboot tutorial is up [02:04] swap is in most cases an "in case I run out of memory" [02:06] Ziggy- (n=krotz@85-220-53-115.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) joined ##slackware. [02:08] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZO150003.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. 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I have succefully set it up, and at linux startup i've got "polling for dhcp server on interface wlan0", and after this internet starts working. But if i type "ifconfig wlan0 down && sleep 1 && ifconfig wlan0 && sleep 1 && dhcpcd wlan0" - returns "err, wlan0: timed out". And the same if at system startup moment my access point was off. [04:47] err, "ifconfig wlan0 up", of course.. [04:48] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.169.199) joined ##slackware. [04:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [04:50] hello All. I've a question about wireless lan. I have succefully set it up, and at linux startup i've got "polling for dhcp server on interface wlan0", and after this internet starts working. But if i type "ifconfig wlan0 down && sleep 1 && ifconfig wlan0 up && sleep 1 && dhcpcd wlan0" - returns "err, wlan0: timed out". And the same if at system startup moment my access point was off. [04:51] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [04:51] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [04:53] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [04:55] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [04:56] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:58] Does anyone knows how can I convert .html (logifiles of pidgin) into .txt? [05:00] Azeotrope: Isn't there an option of saving the logs as plain text? Check under Tools->Preferences and the Logging tab. [05:02] isBEKaml: yes, but It's not retroactive and i need all the logfiles in .txt [05:03] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:06] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:08] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [05:08] Azeotrope: I don't think it wil happen that way. But you can convert all your older logs to txt using your shell. [05:10] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-166-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:10] hi there! [05:10] I will have to run run mkinitrd and lilo if I upgrade to the kernel patches? [05:10] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-49.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [05:10] isBEKaml: yes, my only ideea of doing that is useing cat myhtml.html > mytext.txt [05:11] isBEKaml: the only problem is that i want to make it more automatic, to keep the filenames and the command shoud be recursive, to search in all subdir of a folder [05:12] Azeotrope: try this: for i in `ls -R *.html`; do; cat $i > $i.txt; done [05:12] a little sleight of hand with shell programming. :) [05:13] isBEKaml: thank you so much! [05:13] Azeotrope: yw [05:14] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:14] i hate parsing ls :) [05:14] yeah, you could convert ls to a find command. That'd be easier.. [05:14] find . -type f -name '*.html' -print0 | xargs -0r cat >whatever [05:15] yeah, I thought of it later. Old practices. :( [05:15] rg3: whatever should be the name of the original html file [05:16] Azeotrope: whatever it is, it's just copied over to a new txt file of the same name. [05:16] kannan (n=kann@121.246.242.95) joined ##slackware. [05:16] oh, wait [05:16] my loop doesn't do exactly as the original loop did, my bad [05:16] i didn't pay enough attention [05:17] just replace ls in the loop with your find command. for i in `find . -name "*.html" -type f`... [05:19] Placing find in a loop is useless, thats what -exec {} \; is for.. [05:19] isBEKaml: do i make a scriptfile or i should run the command as is? [05:20] Azeotrope: you can run the command as is. if you're going to use it often, you can make a script file. [05:20] Azeotrope: it's just a throwaway loop. :) [05:21] i got this when running as command: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;' [05:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:23] Azeotrope: did you do it right? I just ran it again and it works fine here.. [05:23] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-217-003.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.134.156) joined ##slackware. [05:24] urthwrm: yeah, I haven't used exec {}, so can't tell. ;) [05:24] isBEKaml: as root, in the terminal, in the folder i want to apply the conversion: for i in `ls -R *.html`; do; cat $i > $i.txt; done [05:26] it should work... [05:27] also, if you're going to use -exec terminate it with '+' instead of \; [05:28] then you dont need xargs [05:28] ewww, never parse output of ls [05:28] bad juju [05:29] so, i use find? [05:29] yeah, use find. [05:29] yes [05:29] why are you using cat with redirection, want to get rid of permission? [05:30] versus 'mv' [05:30] no, i just want to get rid of the html formatting insed the files [05:30] I didn't know he was running as root, so I suggested that. [05:30] in this case you need to run something for each file, not for each group of files, and you need to transform the file name into something else; i have always failed to achieve that with -exec because it only understands '{}' as a full parameter [05:31] the permissions of the files are not too important [05:32] so you have .html files and you want to run something that removes all the and just leaves what's inbetween? [05:32] yes [05:32] only plaintext [05:33] but i want to keep the filenames [05:33] Azeotrope: try to run links -dump and see if you find the output acceptable for a single file [05:33] lynx? [05:33] no, "links" [05:34] that's not a bad suggestion [05:34] links -dump html_file >txt_file [05:34] if that's good enough, do it in a loop [05:35] rg3: the answer to your problem (and Azeotrope) is something like s [05:35] *so [05:38] while IFS= read -r -d $'\0' file; do links -dump "$file" > "${file%.*}.txt"; done < <(find /path/to/html/files -type f -name "*.html" -print0) [05:38] rg3: the test output is ok, but has formatting problems. the html text was one line and the ouput makes it on 5 equal lenght lines of txt [05:38] Azeotrope: try mine [05:39] oh n/m i see what you mean [05:39] dfrank (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:39] Azeotrope: but that's how the html is going to be rendered if you were to view it in a browser [05:39] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:40] SiegeX: yes, it's ok. I converted all files from a folder but the same problem. [05:40] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-202-125.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:41] does not have text wrap [05:41] only new line [05:41] so the problem seems to be that links outputs the file formatted for the terminal width, and you don't want that [05:42] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [05:42] Azeotrope: try this: COLUMNS=200 links -dump /path/to/file.html [05:42] see if that changes it [05:42] er, there's a better option [05:42] links -width 10000 [05:43] yep, even better [05:44] hello, i want to know whether a php script is able to read a file in /etc, i am getting DB connection problem, tho i know the values in the dbconnect file is correct [05:44] used apache [05:44] uh, -with 10000 craps out with an "out of range" error [05:44] rg3: er, wouldn't it throw something like "out of range"? [05:44] dang, slow typing.. :( [05:45] i get that [05:45] out of range [05:45] how t check the file permissons is OK for apache? [05:45] i don't know where the limit is really [05:45] <_abc_> kannan: -> #php [05:45] something like 200 would do? [05:46] _abc_, ok thanks [05:46] the limit appears to be 512, maybe that's enough [05:46] <_abc_> has anyone here experience with slackware kernel 2.6.29.6 (13.0) + aufs ? [05:47] man page for links says: "For dump, document will be formatted to this screen width (but it can still exceed it if lines can't be broken). " [05:47] rg3: 512 chars per line? it's enough [05:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.234.73) joined ##slackware. [05:50] the output is very nice. there are some extra spaces before each line of text, though [05:51] <_abc_> what dump ? [05:52] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-250-177.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:52] links [05:52] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-012.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [05:52] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:53] well, i don't think i can get rid of those extra spaces that appear before the lines [05:54] you can post process with sed [05:54] but id need to see some sample text and then it would have to be a pattern that persists across all .html files that you dump [05:55] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-198-231.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:55] Siegex [05:55] ok, paste bin? [05:55] sure [05:56] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: "Bye.........." [05:57] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-166-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [05:59] SiegeX: http://pastebin.org/64217 [05:59] anyone used to vuze? [05:59] so you want to remove all leading spaces in every line for every file? [05:59] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-180-136-110.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Yes [06:00] Azeotrope: links -dump -width 512 /path/to/file.html | sed 's/^ *//' [06:00] how's that look? [06:00] i have two things i cant figure out...setting up a media player for it, and setting a browser, it wont show up help and things [06:00] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF146B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:01] SiegeX: It'd dump to stdout... [06:01] i hope so. [06:01] it's a test [06:01] alright [06:02] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [06:02] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:04] SiegeX: SiegeX, yes, it;s what i want. but the output is in my terminal [06:04] Azeotrope: http://codepad.org/E4hgw6UN [06:04] just change the directory in the 'find' command [06:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:09] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.220.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:10] SiegeX: i get the ">" thing after i run the command [06:11] while IFS= read -r -d $'\0' file; do links -width 512 -dump "$file" | sed 's/^ *//' > "${file%.*}.txt" done < <(find /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/ -type f -name "*.html" -print0) [06:11] Action: SiegeX tests [06:12] ahh [06:12] there should be a ';' before the 'done'. but now that I think about it, probably best to put an 'echo' in there first to make sure the command looks correct. so... [06:13] while IFS= read -r -d $'\0' file; do echo links -width 512 -dump "$file" | sed 's/^ *//' > "${file%.*}.txt"; done < <(find /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/ -type f -name "*.html" -print0) [06:13] try that, you should see lots of lines that start with 'links'. Make sure the file names look right [06:13] if it does, then remove the 'echo' and rerun the script [06:15] should say something like--> links -width 512 -dump /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/file1.html | sed 's/^ *//' > /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/file1.txt [06:15] nope, it outputs in every file links -width 512 -dump /path/to/html/file/htmlfilename.html [06:16] that part is right [06:16] what comes after the '>' [06:16] hello , anyone has installed a2billing on slackware here? [06:16] Azeotrope: paste a single line here. [06:17] the whole thing [06:17] ok [06:17] links -width 512 -dump /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/azeotrope/repartot/2009-10-23.201150+0300EEST.html [06:18] this is the output in every .txt file the path ot the html and the links command [06:19] no other texyt [06:19] Azeotrope: Ok, try this. Put double quotes like so... [06:20] actually thats not going to work [06:20] not without making the command ugly [06:20] well, as long as all your file names end with .html, it will work [06:20] so go ahead and remove the 'echo' and run it [06:21] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [06:22] SiegeX: dud, you're genius. exactly what I wanted! [06:23] now i do a rm -r *.html to delete all the html? [06:23] better to use find for that too [06:23] but tripple check everything looks good [06:24] find /home/azeotrope/Desktop/yahoologs/ -type f -name "*.html" -exec rm {} + [06:24] yes, i am doing that now [06:24] run that once you're super duper sure you have what you want [06:25] yes, sir! thank you again for your time [06:25] you're welcome [06:25] that's the most complex command i've ever used [06:26] heh ya, lots of crap going on in there. about 80% of it is to make sure it works with files names that have spaces or newlines or whatever they can sometimes have [06:26] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:28] now i'm gonna read some man pages... ps. for how long do you use linux? [06:29] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] bout 14 years now. about the last 6 of those to seriously learn shell scripting and the like [06:30] Azeotrope: you'll find just about all of what I did in --> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ [06:30] oh... that's a lot [06:31] well thats really 3 languages, bash, sed, and awk. all of which can be quite complex [06:32] and its not like you can't be decent at those in less time [06:32] it takes years to master all of that [06:33] about 95% of the time the only sed command you'll use is the 's' one [06:33] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:33] what takes most of the time is learning how to do proper regular expressions [06:33] SiegeX: I have often referred absguide, but I never had a FAQ to use. Thanks for the link! [06:33] but once you know that, you can directly apply it to sed, awk and now bash since a version or two ago [06:33] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-65-28.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [06:33] the advanced bash guide has alot of horrible code in it [06:34] that FAQ/wiki will do you right [06:34] I see.. [06:36] probably the craziest most compact command ive learned is this --> awk '!a[$0]++' [06:37] I can see it's arrays, but "!" ? [06:37] bit operators? :O [06:38] echo "apple orange banana grape lemon grape apple lime" | awk 'BEGIN{RS=ORS=" "}!a[$0]++' [06:39] The BEGIN{RS=ORS=" "} part is just to make it so that it looks at each field as a new record rather and outputs it out on one line [06:39] but can you see what it does? [06:40] puts a new line and adds a space? [06:40] compare the output to the input [06:40] ah, uniq [06:41] yes, but even better it doesnt require sorted input [06:41] it keeps original order [06:42] sweet [06:42] echo -e "apple\norange\nbanana\ngrape\nlemon\ngrape\napple\nlime" | uniq [06:42] see, that doesnt work [06:42] you'll have to pipe to pipe to sort for it to work [06:43] so --> sort | uniq or just --> | sort -u [06:43] but then that puts 'orange' last [06:43] rather than 2nd [06:44] yes, I see that now. I thought awk was easy to read, now that's cryptic. [06:44] heh ya. that is actually abusing awk's default values [06:46] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:46] RS and ORS abused first and then hit the "unreadable" button! :) [06:46] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:46] awk '!a[$0]++' == awk '{ if(a[$0] == 0){ a[$0] += 1; print $0}}' [06:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:47] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] a[$0] uses the current line as the index/key into the array a[]. If that line has not been seen yet and thus that index does not exist, awk returns 0. [06:49] so then you increment that index to 1 such that the next time(s) that line is seen, awk will return non-zero and thus not print it [06:49] yes, the awk '{print}' returns an array on the current line. I read that. [06:50] so first awk tries a["apple"] which is the first time it sees that so it returns 0 and thus prints "apple". Then we do a["apple"]++ so that the next time "apple" is seen it will return 1 and skip the 'print $0'. And the next time after that it will return 2 and skip printing and so on. [06:51] ah, neat... :) [06:51] the latest version of bash (4.0) now supports associative arrays too. [06:52] hashes? I didn't know that.. [06:52] ya [06:52] merciful_ (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:52] Nick change: merciful_ -> Guest75052 [06:53] Guest75052 (n=merciful@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [06:54] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:55] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [06:55] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-012.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] hmmm, I plan to take that out of the testing packages provided along with Slack13. :) [07:00] that guide is awesome [07:01] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [07:03] declare -A a; while IFS= read -d " " fruit; do ((a["$fruit"]++)) || echo "$fruit"; done < <(echo "apple orange banana grape lemon grape apple lime" )) [07:03] not as pretty as --> echo "apple orange banana grape lemon grape apple lime" | awk 'BEGIN{RS=ORS=" "}!a[$0]++' [07:03] but works on Bash 4.X [07:03] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:04] which is in testing [07:04] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [07:04] what does `declare` do? [07:05] help declare [07:05] yeah, I don't see what it is doing here.. [07:05] allows you to declare a variable and set certain options on it [07:05] in this case -A sets the variable as an associative array [07:06] if I left the 'declare -A a' out then array a[] would not be associative [07:06] it would be a standard bash 3.X array [07:06] I see... [07:07] ive never used 'declare' for anything but -A [07:07] I've never used 'declare' at all! [07:07] but then, I'm on bash 3.x [07:07] ya well since you're not on 4.x that makes sense =) [07:07] :) [07:07] some scripts you'll see people declare their variables and arrays first [07:08] sorta like in C where you do 'int x' [07:08] then you do 'x=4' [07:08] declare and define. drilled into me in my high school C classes. :) [07:08] but unless you need one of the odd options declare can set on a variable, there is no need to use it [07:08] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [07:09] declare -l foo; foo="UPPERCASE"; echo $foo [07:09] like that might be a useful one if you are going to get input from the user and you dont want to have to test for both upper and lower case letters [07:10] Axius (n=fim@92.85.210.32) joined ##slackware. [07:10] I'd rather not use declare then. :) [07:11] kitche_ (n=kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:02] studies [10:03] C00re> my server doesnt allow me to use the "at" cronjob [10:03] if it doesn't allow you to use 'at', why are you trying to use 'at'? [10:03] studies<- [10:03] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) [10:03] anyone can help me here.. [10:03] i have the manual, but i cant use it [10:04] tracex: it means what it says: it can't mount root filesystem [10:04] would be nice if it was actuall working [10:04] tracex: did you compile your own kernel? [10:04] stop trying to make your own colonel [10:04] unless you got the skillz [10:04] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-236-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [10:05] ananke: i just install new kernel 2.6.29.6 [10:05] tracex: from? [10:06] .slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/linux-2.6.29.6-3/ [10:06] anything i miss to config? [10:06] C00re: it looks sort of correct based on the manpage. (Apart from the usage of "pm") [10:06] heh [10:06] someone didn't run lilo did they? [10:07] tracex: letg me guess, you installed the generic kernel and didn't make a initrd? [10:07] make a initrd?? -not sure.. [10:07] Action: tracex newbies here :( [10:08] tracex: *what* kernel did you use in your lilo.conf? [10:08] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC310F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:08] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] image = /boot/vmlinuz [10:08] root = /root [10:08] label = Linux [10:09] tracex: and what does the /boot/vmlinuz point to? [10:09] tracex: ls -al /boot/vmlinuz [10:09] Dominian: too slow. :) [10:09] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:10] vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 [10:10] <_abc_> is there a slackware stock kernel that comes with aufs.ko ? [10:10] yep [10:10] tracex: you forgot to run lilo [10:11] how to run.. [10:11] tracex: /sbin/lilo [10:11] as root [10:13] done. anything else need to config? [10:14] probably not. try rebooting [10:15] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [10:21] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-069.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [10:22] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF146B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [10:25] <|dfrank|> dear All, could you tell me, what font using in xterm? Very easy and good [10:26] edman007_ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. 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[11:00] sahk0: i just reboot my pc.. but it same: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) [11:01] I want to start mplayer with crontab to play an mp3 file. i can onlz hear the first 4 secs of the file, then it stops [11:01] cvlc also sounds bad.... distorted [11:02] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Azeotrope: try mpg321 instead [11:05] Pig_Pen: if i run the mplayer command in the terminal it works fine. only when starting with cron i have problems [11:05] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:05] try mpg321 with cron [11:06] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] just make a shellscript to have mpg321 to play this mp3 file and make it executable and put it in /etc/cron.hourly (if you want it to run at 47 minutes after the hour every hour [11:08] GammalSokk (n=johskar@130.84-48-46.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [11:09] if you want the hourly time to be different you can change that in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root open that root text file and change 47 to whatever time of the hour you want [11:10] Pig_Pen: yes, mpg321 works fine, but the rest of them (mplayer, aplay, cvlc) were PITA [11:10] mpg123 [11:10] silLxper (n=21@hst-239-16.splius.lt) joined ##slackware. [11:11] i have mpg321 [11:11] mpg123 is a symlink pointing to mpg321 [11:12] oh [11:13] <|dfrank|> Dear All. I've a question about rc.inet1.conf. Tell please, is there any way to make a "profiles" for wlan0, for example? At home there're some parameters, and at work are others parameters. How do I simply change it? [11:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [11:15] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:16] |dfrank| install wicd from extra/ [11:16] it not only handles wireless but wired as well - I use it all of the time [11:16] <|dfrank|> alisonken1home: is this an X app? [11:16] it's a python script that has both ncurses and x gui [11:18] <|dfrank|> alisonken1home: ok, thanks. maybe later :) now i want just to work with vim and text configs :) so, in this way, i will just switch config files. [11:18] when you install it, just make sure your user is part of netdev group [11:19] in that case, look at the notes in rc.inet1.conf about wireless towards the bottom for wireless configuration [11:21] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.236) joined ##slackware. [11:22] i believe you'll find wicd pretty cool when you do try it - I've been using it on my laptop betwee home/work/church/mother-in-law's house for some months now and it can automate connectivity between all of them nicely [11:22] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:23] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [11:24] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] JK3MP (n=JKemp@173-119-59-12.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:27] <|dfrank|> alisonken1home: sounds attractive :) [11:28] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:32] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:34] <|dfrank|> and one more question. I using KDE4, and i don't like its fonts rendering. In MS Windows fonts looks much more beautiful. On ##kde people tells me to ask on my distro's channel. So, I asing :) How do i beautify fonts freetype rasterizer in KDE4? [11:35] |dfrank|: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=font&sv=13.0 [11:35] mkdir ~/.fonts (and copy your windows fonts in to there if you want) [11:36] i can't be bothered to put any new fonts on my system, personally. [11:37] I can't even tell a good font from a bad font. [11:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:38] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) [11:38] anyone can help me [11:39] guaranteed to be lilo and/or fstab [11:39] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:39] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [11:40] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:41] wrong, guarenteed to be kernel config [11:41] eep [11:41] :> [11:42] And while that's right, odds are adjustments to lilo and/or fstab will resolve his issue.. [11:42] kernel config? [11:42] assuming, of course, that support for the filesystem is in the kernel [11:42] is it a custom kernel tracex ? [11:42] no.. just installpkg new kernel [11:42] trying to use the generic kernel? [11:42] 2.6.29.6 [11:43] use generic kernel? how [11:43] ok, nevermind, i'm bowing out of this one [11:43] morning everyone [11:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.37) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Action: tracex newbies :( [11:44] eviljames: fstab? how [11:45] tracex: well, if the way your devices are named changed (ie: hda became sda) [11:48] ? [11:48] maybe initrd.img not made and set in to lilo.conf [11:49] Pig_Pen: how to made initrd.img [11:49] <_abc_> ow [11:49] <_abc_> i have been at that for a while now ;) [11:50] at making an initrd? [11:50] <_abc_> at making my own initrd [11:50] take a look in /boot/initrd.README file (or something like that) [11:50] indeed. [11:50] <_abc_> i have read everything relevant, i have my problems and am working on them [11:50] <_abc_> just add lubricant ... [11:51] heheh [11:51] i always build my own kernel with just enough embedded in the kernel image so an initrd file wont be necessary, the rest gets built as modules [11:51] yep. [11:51] oo [11:51] :) [11:56] <_abc_> anyone seen 'pc_lock_opts' missing symbol error on modules build? what defines this? [11:56] <_abc_> also __gamerport_register_port seems to be related to joystick? [11:56] <_abc_> these break the build when sound/usb(snd-usb-lib.ko is built [11:57] do you need/want usb sound? [11:57] <_abc_> imho there should be no connection between joystick and usb ?! [11:57] could be a throwback from when sound cards had gameports on them [11:58] <_abc_> good point [11:58] <_abc_> the joystick interface is built as M [11:58] <_abc_> i am stumoed [11:58] <_abc_> *stumped [11:59] well, like I say, are you going to use usb audio devices? [11:59] <_abc_> maybe [11:59] heheh the worst possible answer :P [11:59] are all your includes in the right places, where does pc_lock_opts get defined? [12:00] <_abc_> i am not sure they should be [12:01] <_abc_> i meant pv_lock_opts and pv_irq_opts [12:01] <_abc_> where are these defined? [12:01] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF93D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Action: _abc_ thinks grep -Rl is still the man's best friend although a female dog [12:02] fxer (n=fxer@c-bd02e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:02] <_abc_> from the size of the /usr/include it's all there (101MB) [12:05] Axius (n=ade@92.85.25.7) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.28.64) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] Axius (n=ade@92.85.25.7) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:06] <_abc_> interesting grep -Rl pv_lock_opts /usr/src/linux-2.6.39.6 yelds zilch [12:07] <_abc_> am doing a make clean and starting over [12:07] good call [12:07] re-check your config while you're at it. [12:08] <_abc_> eviljames: ok, what am i looking for. i made a menuconfig before but did not see anything interesting [12:08] <_abc_> any hints ? [12:10] Cobolguru (n=taxman@pool-71-172-106-71.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@pool-71-172-106-71.nwrknj.east.verizon.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:10] Cobolguru kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Coincidences usually aren't. [12:10] i have this problem when connecting to my VBOX VRDP: http://pastebin.org/64355 [12:11] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] what is the minimum of memory that i need to run huge.s? [12:21] <_abc_> isnt paride parallel port attached drives ? [12:21] <_abc_> is is it paride to differentiate from sata? [12:22] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.92.161.28) joined ##slackware. [12:22] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-65-28.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [12:22] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:29] <_abc_> likely only the kernel, about 3MB, if you also want applications, you need more ;) [12:30] _abc_, i have 16 mb of ram as of right now... and it is only expandable to 40 meg [12:30] and with 16 mb it is complaining that it cannot put everything on ram ro soemthing [12:30] *or [12:31] <_abc_> ferdna: that's not the kernel that's the root fs [12:31] <_abc_> the uncompressed ramdisk is about 26MB by itself [12:31] <_abc_> so if you have 32MB you should just barely fly [12:32] <_abc_> what platform is that ? [12:32] this is for a toshiba 410cdt [12:32] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:32] pentium 90Mhz [12:32] <_abc_> oh [12:32] and maximum memory is of 40MB [12:32] i only have 16 installed [12:32] <_abc_> add another 16 and try [12:33] _abc_, i can't there is only one slot... [12:33] <_abc_> oh, so swap it ;) [12:33] it comes with 8MB non removable ram... and on the slot it has an 8MB stick [12:33] so i will be getting the 32MB ram module [12:34] so it upgrades my whole system memory to 40 meg [12:34] <_abc_> why are you desperate to get this ancient machine working? [12:34] _abc_, because, it is very similar to embedded computers! [12:34] <_abc_> well, it's not [12:34] yeah, not really.. but [12:35] <_abc_> the peripherals on a pc104 board are very unlike any toshiba [12:35] for the speed... and stuff i can simulate things [12:35] plus i got this computer for very cheap [12:35] <_abc_> ferdna: simulate using qemu or vbox, you can dial as much or as little memory as you like [12:35] _abc_, i see... [12:35] go buy a atom based netbook, = modern hardware with better powersaving tech, that old piece of junk uses as much power as a space heater ferdna [12:35] hi; does anyone have a script that will find non-uniq filename* (same stem) and test for content uniqness so duplicates can be rm'd? [12:36] Pig_Pen, i have one of those for my firewall with an SSD [12:37] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [12:37] _abc_ can i steal a little bit from u`r time on private [12:37] tripFantastic, maybe run "find" to find the files you want and put the md5sum of the files into a text.txt file and then sort the text.txt file and you can find dupes [12:37] i know what would be perfect if you want an embedded system, get a Sharp Zarus PDA, those are Linux compatible and most have Linux installed from the factory [12:37] Pig_Pen, those are kind of expensive [12:38] <_abc_> is there an option to slow down *each* line printed by the kernel, without hacking printk? [12:38] this system cost me 30 bucks... hehehhehehe... [12:38] tank-man ty i know that one but i need something that is more comprehensive [12:38] abc, use less with the follow opt [12:39] ferdna good catch [12:39] <_abc_> what less? i'm talking about the boot process [12:39] Axius (n=ade@92.82.80.244) joined ##slackware. [12:39] i see a SHarp Zaurus SL-C750 for 175 bucks right now at google/shopping [12:39] ok [12:39] tripFantastic, yeah, hehehhehe... [12:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] tripFantastic, remember from last night that i had a failure isntalling slack [12:39] <_abc_> ferdna: at that price it must have been in a pawn shop or outside it ... [12:39] _abc_, maybe 'scroll lock' [12:40] <_abc_> huh? [12:40] well, the hard drive wasn't installed properly... lol [12:40] ferdna yea [12:40] ferdna thatll do it [12:40] <_abc_> tank-man: i'm not that fast [12:40] _abc_, yeah... hehehhehhehe.... it was at an old computer repair shop... [12:41] tripFantastic, so the usbboot disk really worked just fine.. i just need more memory for it... [12:41] ferdna when i lived in pennsyl. i collected working hw from the curb in front of houses that abandoned their working comps!!! (oh the shame of it all and the beowulves that coulda been built) [12:41] ferdna kool [12:41] hehehehe [12:42] Axius (n=ade@92.82.80.244) left irc: Client Quit [12:42] <_abc_> dumpster diving has become much less popular since specialized companies collect the junk [12:42] true [12:43] tracex (n=inetd@arwen.tnstate.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] <_abc_> of course the companies should pay for taking away what they sell. instead, they get exclusivity. democracy at work. [12:43] ferdna once i was swapping out a mobo and i forgot to unplug PS from the wall; so there I am holding a PS by its internal wires bundle, its power wires dangling and hot but PS was off and my arm got tired ; silcone does NOT smell good when cooked (cooking in sand is not edible) [12:44] <_abc_> i did not understand that [12:44] abc, to me? [12:44] <_abc_> yes [12:44] _abc_. PS = power supply [12:44] <_abc_> you dropped a live power cable on a main board? and then you tried to rma it? [12:44] i unscrewed the PS to lift it out; all internal wires disconnected; still plugged into wall [12:45] <_abc_> so? [12:45] abc, pff; it was a recovered street comp [12:45] heh [12:45] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:45] that shouldn't pose any issues, unless it's an ancient PSU with a manual switch [12:45] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] it was [12:45] ancient [12:46] but it was phun mesin with old hw back then [12:46] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] even then, it shouldn't 'cook' by having unplugged the 5/12V connections [12:46] it's all in storage now [12:46] <_abc_> how long does a kernel build take? [12:46] well it was still pluged to wall [12:46] _abc_: about as much time as it takes me to get to a store [12:46] abc longer than you expect but shorter than forever [12:46] <_abc_> ananke: hehe. that's bad. you live in the boonies? [12:47] _abc_: nope. but i'm glad you know how long it takes me to go to as tore [12:47] <_abc_> ananke: it also depends if you are a guy or a gal. a guy will do the veni vedi vici thing. the girl will do a lot of vedi [12:47] _abc_, if it's a custom kernel, and decent hardware, maybe 5-10 minutes [12:48] _abc_: bingo. it _depends_ on a lot of factors [12:48] afk [12:48] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:48] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:50] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-431004.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] <_abc_> the size of a kernel config has quadrupled at least since the 1990s [12:51] <_abc_> does anyone still have an old kernel config to see the size? [12:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.28.64) joined ##slackware. [12:51] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) joined ##slackware. [12:52] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [12:52] salmaklak (n=colmstar@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [12:52] <|dfrank|> dear All.. I trying to mount removable flash disk. "mount /dev/sda /mnt/tmp" - returns "mount: no such file or directory". "dmesg | tail" returns "FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors; VFS: can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda. GFS2: gfs2 mount does not exist". In Windows all ok. I have no idea :( [12:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431004.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [12:54] |dfrank|, The the flash drive was partitions, then check for /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2, etc. [12:54] One of those is likely what you want to mount. [12:54] salmaklak (n=colmstar@78.32.184.48) left irc: Client Quit [12:55] <|dfrank|> adamk: oh, it works! thank u :) [12:55] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC310F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [12:56] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Client Quit [13:00] <_abc_> ok, make clean && make && make modules was the key, everything is right now. fingers crossed [13:00] <_abc_> time was 47 minutes ;( [13:00] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [13:00] <_abc_> this is a huge-smp kernel [13:00] _abc_, "make all" is easier ;) [13:01] <_abc_> yes buti need more control in case it breaks (as it did) [13:01] also, if you have a multi-core system, "make -j3 all" or so [13:01] <_abc_> ah [13:02] gabrielgilini (i=500@189.7.26.124) left irc: "gabrielgilini has no reason" [13:05] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:06] <_abc_> i think that i have a problem, i had two kernel sets installed, huge-smp and huge. when i removed the huge and its headers packages a lot of modules got deleted from /lib/modules [13:06] <_abc_> i suspect that i now need to reinstall kernel-huge-smp-modules to avoid breakage on reboot. correct? [13:07] <_abc_> /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp/ is about 26M. ah, so i do not have to [13:07] <_abc_> goot [13:07] <_abc_> sorry 70M [13:08] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.18) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [13:09] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:12] <_abc_> what is the role of LUKS again? /luksdev ? [13:12] Action: _abc_ please say it's for Luke, use the force [13:13] I don't understand your question; you mean, what is luks used for? [13:13] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:13] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-76-235-58-27.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] <_abc_> yes [13:14] it's used for encryption stuff [13:14] <_abc_> ah, i don't need that [13:14] <_abc_> thanks [13:14] Noob-SE (n=ninjo@78.154.219.222) left ##slackware. 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[13:36] Axius (n=ade@92.82.80.244) left irc: Client Quit [13:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-76-235-58-27.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] Avalloc (n=_@port-15833.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [13:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:47] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: No route to host [13:48] rcscomp (n=Randy@74-128-243-173.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [13:49] wondering if someone can help me get slackware installed on a 3ware hardware raid card using LVM. I have LVM configured correctly and the slack setup has run. initrd has been created and LILO installed. [13:50] But when slack boots, I get a message that says my /dev/raidvg/root device can not be found. `fdisk -l` shows nothing. I am thinking I need to make sure my initrd has support for the 3ware RAID card, but not sure how to do that. [13:51] I tried modprobe -l on the setup's kernel to look for a 3w-xxxx driver/module, but couldn't find one. [13:52] The setup's kernel has all drivers compiled-in so you will not see many modules loaded [13:53] psychonautlibIII (n=chatzill@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:53] With the initrd, you shuld use a generic kernel, and then the required drivers should be copied into the initrd [13:53] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] alienBOB: thanks for the response. The problem is, i don't know what the driver name is and am not sure how to find out. I have seen a couple references on the internet to 3w-9xxx, but I don't know what it actually is. I was hoping the modprobe would tell me. How can I figure out what the driver name is? [13:55] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.18) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] got a live CD handy? maybe boot it and see what driver it loads for it [13:57] <|dfrank|> hello everybody. I trying to decrease lilo timeout: in /etc/lilo.conf i change timeout to 30, but there's no effect! still 2 minutes. What should i do? [13:57] Pig_Pen: I have a couple ubuntu install disks. Once I load them, how do I figure out what driver is loaded? [13:57] lsmod [13:58] |dfrank|: did you reinstall lilo? [13:58] |dfrank|: did you run lilo? [13:58] also look at dmesg, lspci [13:58] <|dfrank|> hitest: rcscomp: no [13:58] Pig_Pen: ok, i will try that. So I need to use a different live CD that has modules to get that information, the Slack setup CD won't work b/c its compiled in? [13:59] |dfrank|: after chaning the config file, just run "lilo" [13:59] |dfrank|; okay then run /sbin/lilo [13:59] the install CD may not give you access to lsmod and other tools during the install [13:59] <|dfrank|> rcscomp: hitest: oh yes :) thank you, all ok. [13:59] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:00] rcscomp: or... boot the slackware install CD and mount & chroot your raid install (if it will let you do that) [14:01] |dfrank|: np:) yw [14:01] Pig_Pen: yes, am already there. dmesg on the install cd shows "3w-9xxx", so maybe that is the name of the driver huh? [14:02] i guess, i never had that raid card, let me run menuconfig and find that raid card kernel module and see if that is the correct name of the module to load [14:02] do I just put that in my mkinitrd command then? i.e. "mkinitrd -c... -m ext4:3w-9xxx..." [14:02] Pig_Pen: ok, thank you! [14:05] evo_ (n=evo@p5B2FEA1A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:13] if there is a 3w-9xxx kernel module i must have missed it [14:13] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] i think ananke knows raid fairly well [14:14] Pig_Pen: must be b/c that is what I used in the mkinitrd command and now everything seems to be working [14:14] kukukkk (n=dvorak@188.24.66.254) joined ##slackware. [14:15] ok, i learned something too! if i ever get a raid system i will i a good idea what to do [14:16] yeah, there are 2, one in scsi and the other in blk_dev [14:18] just watched 'em fly by in my current build :P [14:18] 2 [14:19] i was looking in the wrong place, i was looking in "Multiple devices driver support (RAID and LVM) [14:20] last time i did a kernel build i ran make install, not thinking for a second that it would overwrite grub w/ lilo... so long osol! [14:20] make install actually runs lilo? [14:20] umm why would the kernel overwrite grub? [14:21] that's not right [14:21] running make install will invoke /sbin/lilo to run [14:21] in any case, recovering that opensolaris should be easy [14:21] sounds like something is messed up then [14:21] nachox: of course, i just haven't been arsed to get the disc or usb image out :P [14:21] i always manually copy over .config System.map & bzImage, and only use make modules_install [14:22] and yes, make install does run lilo [14:22] Karu (n=alch@78-28-64-225.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:23] eviljames, remember that if you were running a recent version of opensolaris, more recent than release, you'll need to download a newer livecd because the old one will not import the pool [14:23] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] soccerfan (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:29] Pig_Pen: you bastard. snow, -2C. could be worse: http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=edmonton%2C+ab [14:29] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.66.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] ugh, that's actually colder when measured in C :( [14:31] yeah, just a couple of days ago it was freezing here too, this location the weather changes drastically, some days it is freezing cold and other days warm gulf breezes blow through warming it up [14:33] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:33] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:33] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [14:34] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:36] oxiredo (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [14:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:36] can i record my desktop activity (with mencoder or something) ? 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[14:59] I'm having trouble with the wifi on my 13.0 laptop. I know for a fact that there is a connection in the area, and the laptop is detecting the card, but nothing is being shown in Wicd. [14:59] are you in the group netdev? [15:00] mannynix (i=mannynix@200.92.161.28) left irc: "leaving" [15:00] I am. [15:00] I had to add myself to netdev so that Wicd would run. It's still not showing any wireless networks. [15:01] make sure your interface is correct [15:01] ? [15:02] How would I do that? [15:02] click preferences [15:03] Wireless interface wlan0. How do I check if that's correct? [15:04] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:04] is that your wireless interface? :) [15:04] soccerfan (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] /sbin/ifconfig -a [15:05] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] macavity (n=macavity@90.185.90.106) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] wlan0: Link encap: Ethernet (MAC) then on the next line BROADCAST MULTICAST [15:07] I assume this means that's the right interface, then. [15:08] is the interface up? [15:09] "ifconfig wlan0 up" returns "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" [15:11] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] mtkoan (n=mtkoan@c-98-221-81-117.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:16] Mefached: broadcom card? [15:18] Yes. 4306. [15:18] Make sure the drivers are installed correctly. [15:18] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [15:19] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:19] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.46.236: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 13.0 Released August 26, 2009 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: Gimp | new official port: ARMedslack [15:20] I wouldn't really know how to do that either. >.< I'm used to Ubuntu, where things "just work" out of the box (even if half-assed). [15:20] I don't know how to do that later. :/ [15:20] s/later/either [15:20] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) joined ##slackware. [15:20] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [15:32] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [15:33] <_abc_> meh its too quiet here. [15:33] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left ##slackware. [15:33] aw, and just when we were going to start talking about donkey porn :/ [15:33] twolf_ (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [15:33] slackware-current has the necessary devices for kms, right? [15:34] s/devices/drivers/ duh [15:34] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:35] that depends on the kernel you use and the way it is compiled, of course. [15:35] eviljames: yes [15:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:35] wb,fire|bird [15:35] for example, ati/amd kms is not a reality until .32.x [15:35] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: "Changing server" [15:35] mancha: I'll end up using my own kernel, I'm building rt atm.. [15:35] thrice` (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [15:36] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] MLanden, thanks. [15:36] wb,thrice` [15:36] eviljames: Use this: i915.modeset=1 at your but prompt if you have intel board, of course. I think this is the only driver with working KMS with slackware's kernel [15:37] cai i see your but prompt? [15:37] *can [15:37] ops [15:37] but -> boot [15:37] mancha: thanks the fix -:) [15:38] heh, but the fix ruins my joke :) [15:39] lol [15:42] PiterPunk: I'll give it a shot, thx [15:44] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:45] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-65-28.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: "Leaving" [15:55] bb [15:56] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [15:58] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-49.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [16:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [16:01] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-180-136-110.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-180-136-110.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:09] hi ho hi ho, off to pay the bill i go [16:10] bring coal just in case [16:10] mlandster [16:11] tripFantasticster....heya [16:13] [yop] (n=[yop]@lar56-1-88-178-152-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] i mixed a little Kahlua with coca cola, tastes great, the wife thinks it tastes awful [16:13] sounds awful [16:14] oxiredo (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:16] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:16] it tastes good, i did not mix it very strong, i bet creme de coco would taste better [16:16] what is it that you like about the coke in there, the fizz or the actual coke flavor? [16:16] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] [yop] (n=[yop]@lar56-1-88-178-152-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] it was just something i found in the refrigerator and i had some left over kahlua from thanksgiving, and i am naturally a mad scientist when it comes to mixing various foods and booze (the wife calls me a human garbage disposal) [16:19] spaghetti burritos, taco omlettes are two favorites [16:19] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] i use coca cola to clean the corrosion of off car battery terminals...just think what it does to your teeth [16:20] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [16:20] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] i keep those in a jar of denture cleaner :D [16:20] i use coca cola to speak up [16:21] ok, so you've been drinkin coke for some time now lol [16:22] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:22] i am old, bald, toothless and if my oldest boy does not quit messing around with his girlfriend i will be a grampa soon [16:22] I just installed on a laptop I have, I have only wireless on it, and got it working (drivers/module - and firmware) I've setup the /etc/conf.d/net, and put SSID, and WEP Key, but still I can't connect, get the ip from dhcp: 169.254.176.208, and am not connected, when I restart /etc/init.d/net.eth1 - it shows it as connecting and all, but still no connection on internet or on the lan itself. [16:23] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [16:23] Ziggy-: YDIW [16:24] have you double checked that WEP key to be exactly 100% correct? [16:24] Pig_Pen: The wep key is 100% [16:24] Ziggy-: 1) netconfig (and use /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf) 2) wic. [16:24] wicd8 [16:25] 169.254.176.208 is not a real ip, it's what dhcp is assigning you after massive fail [16:25] BP{k}: wicd8 doesn't exist yet. :P [16:25] use iwconfig to connect Ziggy [16:25] NaCl: wicd(8) does. ;) [16:25] how can i update from git repository [16:26] yeah, I use iw [16:26] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-166-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:26] e01, git pull [16:26] hi there [16:26] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:26] BP{k}: heh, true indeed. :) [16:26] thrice`, fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git [16:26] from svn, just i use svn co [16:26] git clone [16:27] update implies you already have the repo [16:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] BP{k}: hmm? I've edited all with WEP and .. everything [16:27] Ziggy-: so? [16:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] ziggy, iwconfig wlan0 essid key channel [16:27] slackware does not use /etc/conf.d so YDIW [16:28] thrice`, this return 'fatal: destination path .... already exists and is not an empty directory. [16:28] :( [16:28] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] e01, ok, if you have already cloned the repo, cd into the directory, and use "git pull" [16:28] e01: what repo are you trying to clone? [16:28] if you have not yet checked it out, "git clone git://repo.git" [16:29] thrice`, works :) [16:29] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Client Quit [16:29] it`s done with 'git pull', thans [16:30] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:30] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:32] mancha: already with that, still doesn't connect [16:34] Ziggy-: give wicd a try .. it's in extra/ [16:35] Ziggy, show me your iwconfig line (you can X out the key chars) [16:35] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] have anybody the script htb_util-0.2.4-pre1_cv-1_quantum-1536-sin.tar.bz2 ? [16:36] songohan (n=songohan@135.210.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] Nick change: [OpenSys] -> OpenSys [16:38] hello, i've downloaded emails from a pop server and i've accidentally delete this emails on the server [16:38] songohan they're gone [16:38] Could i restore this emails on the pop server ? [16:38] no [16:38] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!n=Ignacio@190.51.46.236 [16:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.37) left irc: [16:39] you can bounce them back to yourself of course [16:39] i can still read this emails with thunderbird.. [16:39] songohan: does that server also offer pop? [16:39] i mean imap [16:39] mancha, how to proceed ? [16:40] well the question is if the pop server deleted them from your mailbox, if so bounce them back to that email address [16:40] ananke : no, i guess [16:40] songohan: check, don't guess. [16:40] moving them with imap would be the most efficient way, and would preserve all of your original headers [16:41] evo_ (n=evo@p5B2FEA1A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [16:41] if that's not available, some e-mail clients have 'redirect' option. that would work best [16:42] if you use a client like mutt, it has b for bouce, this in essence is a redirect, so all headers remain the same except the pathway ones of course [16:42] redirect? [16:42] nachox: yeah. try that in kmail [16:42] kmail is better than thunderbird ? [16:42] songohan: is blue better than green? [16:43] what does it do? i mean actually, what smtp commands? [16:43] ananke, i search the information... [16:43] songohan, that depends entirely on your own taste [16:43] nachox: same ones as sending mail, it just strips the last part of headers [16:44] nachox: say you get an e-mail from person A, and you redirect it to me. i receive it, and it essentially looks like i got it from person A [16:44] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] certain timestamps will also change, of course, but unless you look closely it'll pretty much be as it was [16:45] song, that would be my suggestion. [16:46] ananke, but doesnt the mail server add headers about the sender at least? [16:46] think of it as a forward, but without 'X forwarded you this' part. one good use case for it is with ticketing systems. say your organization uses ticketing system to deal with IT related requests, and some dingbat decides to send you request directly to your e-mail address [16:46] you can simply redirect it to your ticketing system, and the ticketing system would deal with it like it's directly from that dingbat [16:46] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [16:47] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) got netsplit. [16:47] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [16:47] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) got netsplit. 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[17:30] hiptobecubic: you should only need the libs [17:31] Nick change: ArdAmAx -> Antrax [17:31] D5 v4rf [17:31] . [17:31] Camarade_Tux: Was lxpanel able to help you with the battery plugin? they just updated the source this weekend [17:32] MLanden: I haven't checked yet, I'll see in a few days [17:32] Camarade_Tux: cool [17:33] hmmm, my neighbour just came [17:33] xD [17:33] Camarade_Tux: ...... [17:33] BP{k}: =) [17:34] thin walls? [17:35] lol [17:35] floor/ceiling [17:35] also, I only heard a man, I haeard no girl -_- [17:35] thin people? [17:36] no idea, never saw them [17:37] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] tracex (n=inetd@arwen.tnstate.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] I would like to get KVM working on slack 64 13.0. Slackbuilds seem like a good option. qemu-kvm is available for 13.0 but kvm is only at 12.2. Will I be able to use the 12.2 script on 13.0? [17:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:41] you need qemu-kvm and kvm in the kernel, I don't know if it's enabled by default though [17:41] Action: Camarade_Tux uses kbm [17:41] *kvm, on slackware64 -current [17:41] see ya [17:42] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-166-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:42] feinom (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [17:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got netsplit. [17:42] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [17:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-142-176-188.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) got netsplit. [17:42] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) got netsplit. [17:42] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) got netsplit. [17:42] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) got netsplit. [17:42] niko (i=niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) got netsplit. [17:42] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) got netsplit. [17:43] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) returned to ##slackware. 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[17:47] rcscomp: qemu-kvm (on slackbuilds.org) plus the kvm and kvm-amd or kvm-intel kernel module, check if you have them, if you don't you'll have to recompile your kernel to enable them [17:48] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) got lost in the net-split. [17:48] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got lost in the net-split. [17:49] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.52.131.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.3.252) joined ##slackware. [17:49] The Slackware kernels have these kvm* modules. Al you need otherwise (not in Slackware) is qemu-kvm which is the user-space part [17:51] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:55] great to know, thank you [17:55] mancha (i=mancha@DOMINIA.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [17:56] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:56] Nick change: mancha -> Guest59426 [17:57] guys to run java apps with firefox,which package i need? [17:57] oxiredo (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [17:57] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-137-169.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] The jre package [17:57] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:57] thx alienBOB [17:58] Guest59426 (i=mancha@DOMINIA.MIT.EDU) left ##slackware. [17:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.52.131.static.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] JK3MP (n=JKemp@173-119-59-12.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware. [17:59] i installed recordmydesktop, bun i have a question : it is posible to record sound from in desktop : example a playing *mp3 file , or just from a micropjone ? [17:59] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:00] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.86.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:02] oxiredo: anything that plays on your computer, as long as the input is unmuted in your alsamixer [18:02] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [18:03] because i have no sound [18:03] Did you read http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_2c.php ? [18:03] And "The first step to sound recording is to make sure that it is enabled" ? [18:04] melgust (n=ing@247.31.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [18:05] brb [18:05] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [18:06] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-42.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:07] do slackware network init scripts support vlans or ipv6? [18:07] You'd know if you would run Slackware straterra [18:07] wow [18:08] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [18:08] so thats a no [18:08] thanks [18:08] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [18:08] wb MLanden [18:08] Indeed [18:08] Antrax (n=arpa@mail2.ijf.hr) left irc: "back to real life (;" [18:08] thanks,fire|bird [18:09] hrm minitube is not playing a movie...it shows the previews, the big movie preview but is actually not playing [18:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [18:10] cteg: the qt4 app? [18:10] yes its qt [18:10] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-170-39-104.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Operation timed out [18:11] i dont have kde installed but all of /l [18:11] do i miss something? [18:11] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] cteg: no, just saw it listed on http://qt-apps.org/ [18:12] just discovered in the sbo repository [18:12] what does minitube do? anything related to youtube? [18:12] yes...should play all movies without a browser. no flash, no dumb comments, etc [18:13] mancha: stand-alone youtube player based on phonon and without flash-player-plugin [18:13] how does it decode the flash? [18:14] fxer (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] i grow mighty interested...as flash in ff (even gnash) sucks bigtime [18:15] cteg: are you using the SBo version of minitube? 0.8? [18:15] man...phonon is installed, gstreamer...what do i miss [18:15] neonflux: i upgraded to 0.8.1 [18:15] ok [18:16] cteg: I've been using minitube since version 0.5 and it has run fine for me...just thought it was the bug found in 0.8 [18:16] from linux.com "Since it doesn't use Flash, you may also see performance increases on hardware that doesn't play well with Flash." that sounds inaccurate [18:17] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-43-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [18:19] i guess i need to install kde [18:19] which i dont want [18:19] cteg have you checked the gstreamer plugins(good,bad,ugly,ffmpeg etc. etc.)? [18:20] MLanden: yes i have 3 gst packages installed base,good,and gstreamer [18:20] cteg, the dev says you need phonon libs and qt4 [18:20] shouldn't need any kde stuff or do i miss something? [18:21] hrm...i always install everything except kde, emacs, tex [18:22] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] brb [18:22] recordmydesktop->> it seems that that i had sound but it is extreamely low ; i rise all in alsamixer but the sound is still low :( [18:22] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-62-10-43-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [18:23] can you hear other things ok? (doorbell, tv, telephone) [18:24] mancha, me? yes,it is not me :P [18:25] Avalloc (n=_@port-15833.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:26] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] Razec (i=1000@189-92-26-183.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Tvozom" [18:28] good :) [18:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m83-178-9-204.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [18:30] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:33] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[19:03] wonder if you start qtconfig from terminal,with it give a tell-tell account about it? [19:03] 27 demons to watch if i insert a medium which i mount manually anyway...i hate all that bullshit :( [19:04] no it starts up just fine [19:04] no comments [19:04] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-72-126-110.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] hi [19:05] my bash profile only shows up if a type source .bash_profile. It annoys me to do this every time i open a terminal emulator... is there anything that i can configure? [19:06] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-069.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "brb" [19:06] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-42.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:07] anyone? [19:08] alpha: do you have a .bashrc? [19:08] rcscomp, yes [19:08] van (n=van@188.4.213.106) joined ##slackware. [19:08] is the .bashrc getting loaded? [19:08] alpha: actually, maybe I am misunderstanding the question [19:09] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] rcscomp, no, thats the problem, it doesnt get loaded [19:09] if i source it manually, it works [19:09] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:09] alpha: so you have a .basrc and a .bash_profile and neither load? [19:10] -.basrc + .bashrc [19:10] rcscomp, yes, im running out of ideas... [19:10] alpha: what is your terminal emulator? [19:10] alpha: and what type of bashshell does it open? [19:10] BP{k}, xterm, but it didnt worked with any terminal emulator [19:11] BP{k}, i think its bash, but im not sure... [19:11] how can i check it? [19:11] alpha: cat /etc/passwd [19:11] what is the last part of the line with your user name [19:11] min is /bin/bash [19:11] /bin/sh [19:11] usually, the .bash_profile is read on login shells and .bashrc on other shells. xterm -ls load it as a login shell (and read .bash_profile) [19:11] alpha: thats the problem [19:12] how can i solve it? i edit /bin/sh to /bin/bash? [19:12] a note in the bash man page says that if it is invoked as sh, .bashrc isn't read [19:12] alpha, chsh -s /bin/bash [19:13] alpha: personally I only tell .bash_{profile,login} to source .bashrc and put everything in .bashrc [19:13] ive changed my shell, but i open another shell, i get the same [19:13] BP{k}, thats what im doing too [19:13] you need to logout and back in [19:13] ok [19:13] thanx! [19:13] i have to go! [19:13] alpha: then why do you need to source .bash_profile as per your question? [19:14] alpha (n=alpha@186.124.135.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] type of image to create for qemu-kvm? Docs say use qcow, but qcow2 looks like the better choice. [19:15] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-170-39-104.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-069.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [19:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-220-249.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-171-66.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] van (n=van@188.4.213.106) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] hmm, damn. bitten again by the stupid 10-udev.hotplug [19:40] huh? [19:40] can't get minitube to work either :( [19:40] installed gstreamer good and ugly , all of l/ [19:40] same here [19:40] :/ [19:40] i am not alone. [19:41] cteg: nope :P [19:41] i just don't understand why [19:41] thrice`: rebooted a slackware 10.2 box. it wasn't able to boot properly because of /etc/hotplug.d/10-udev.hotplug [19:41] i get no errors [19:41] got the thumbnail and in place of the video was just the description in black [19:41] MLanden: yeah same here [19:42] one of the udev updates this year resulted in this exact problem. this is probably the 8th time i've seen it. [19:42] there was a bit back and forth about phonon and qt in the changelog...i guess everything is built just to work kde [19:42] +kde [19:42] +for kde [19:42] you are using current too? [19:43] ananke, heh, no clue; haven't used hotplug in years [19:43] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-24-33-129-58.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] it's this god forsaken thing: # ls -l /etc/hotplug.d/default/10-udev.hotplug [19:44] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2009-07-27 08:20 /etc/hotplug.d/default/10-udev.hotplug -> /sbin/udevsend* [19:44] cteg: no just stable [19:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:44] slackware 13 [19:45] hrm [19:45] i thought it might be the rebuilt qt and phonon. [19:45] nah [19:46] its not that if doesn't work in stable too [19:46] if it passed sbo, maybe we miss something [19:46] hmmmm yeah good point [19:47] Nick change: nixchix0r -> Waffle [19:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] cteg: the maintener didn't even mention the dependecies [19:54] ananke: is that in Slackware?? [19:54] ohhh, 10.2. Ick. [19:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:54] deco: from what I can gather, minitube needs ffmpeg..the question is how does phonon access ffmpeg play flash? gstreamer,xine etc [19:55] rworkman: yes [19:55] MLanden: dunno :/ [19:55] ananke: I don't know enough about udev from back then - it's *way* different today [19:55] oxiredo (n=dorin@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] rworkman: yes, udev is a really moving target -:) [19:56] rworkman: i don't either, but one thing is for sure: it breaks on all 10.2 systems the same way. the machine hangs on 'starting hotplug'. by hangs, i mean the init scripts wait for it. since there are no terminals up, nor networking, it's pretty much dead in the water [19:57] Action: ananke goes through the inventory and rips out that file from every 10.2 box [19:57] ananke: are those machines on 2.4.x kernels still? [19:58] nope. 2.6 [19:58] oh [19:58] PiterPunk: ya think? ;-) [19:59] ananke: well, if removing that file doesn't cause any other issues, then it's a perfect solution :) [19:59] yeah, removing that symlink doesn't seem to affect anything negatively [20:02] Good deal. Buy a lottery ticket - you're lucky :) [20:03] just slightly annoyed. i had to drive to work to fix this issue :) [20:03] O_O [20:03] ah, ugh [20:03] ananke: no ssh ? [20:04] deco: you must have missed the part where i said this problem happens before networking is up [20:04] ananke: ah ok yeah didn't see that [20:05] crap. and i see that udev package creates that symlink. if there are any updates, it will happen again [20:06] i was hoping it was something left over by some earlier version of udev's package [20:06] ananke, create an init script that deletes it? [20:06] :) [20:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] nachox: haha, good point [20:06] upgrade :) [20:06] deco,MLanden good luck figuring that out, bed time for me [20:06] night,cteg [20:06] night [20:06] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-166-069.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [20:06] thrice`: yes, those servers are slated for an upgrade. unfortunately, that won't happen anytime soon [20:07] ananke, hmm, i dont know whether it will work, it has to be called before hotplug, which means it cant be done in rc.local [20:08] nachox: exactly [20:08] unless it also called rc.inet1 restart or something [20:08] thrice`: nope, this is before rc.inet* [20:08] thrice`, rc.inet1 will be upgraded along with all the other crap, and changes will be lost [20:08] yes, but it keeps going, right? [20:09] I mean, do all of your fix-ups in rc.local [20:09] thrice`: what keeps going? [20:09] the init process [20:09] that's the thing, it doesn't keep going. [20:09] oh, weird [20:09] it waits for rc.hotplug to finish loading, which never does [20:09] ananke, i'd bug rworkman to incorporate the workaround in one of the init scripts, i think he can now :P [20:10] i wonder if hotplug should be just removed [20:10] I think that udev still needs it [20:11] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.234.73) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:13] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] thrice`: on actual systems, no [20:13] old system may need hotplug to really work [20:13] PiterPunk, for udev 064? [20:13] thrice`: this isn't an actual system -;) [20:15] /var/log/packages/udev-064-i486-4_slack10.2 [20:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:16] ananke: I saw you use slackware 10.2. I don't have any 10.2 system to do tests on it -:( [20:17] rcscomp (n=Randy@74-128-243-173.dhcp.insightbb.com) left ##slackware. [20:17] i'm going to leave it tonight, but tomorrow i can run strace/etc, see what exactly happens [20:17] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-141-15.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] ananke: thanks. Slackware 10.2 doesn't came by default with kernel 2.4? [20:18] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [20:18] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.60) joined ##slackware. [20:19] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:19] PiterPunk: yes. it has 2.6.x kernel in /testing [20:19] greetings and salutations [20:19] heya,andarius [20:19] salutations MLanden [20:19] GammalSokk (n=johskar@130.84-48-46.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:20] GammalSokk (n=johskar@130.84-48-46.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host133-26-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:22] ananke: Yes, as optional. Please, run the strace on udev to see what is happening. [20:25] psypete (n=realname@li62-9.members.linode.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:27] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:28] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] I haz the scarecrow [20:31] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.129) left irc: Success [20:33] Action: fhobia waits for mythtv to finish compiling... [20:37] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.3.252) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Leaving" [20:38] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [20:39] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.97.31) joined ##slackware. [20:40] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) joined ##slackware. [20:41] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [20:43] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [20:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Nick change: Bugz -> Bugz_ [20:44] Nick change: Bugz_ -> Bugz [20:44] Nick change: Bugz -> Bugz_ [20:44] Nick change: Bugz___ -> Bugz [20:44] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Success [20:45] Nick change: powtrix -> Cazuza [20:45] Nick change: Cazuza -> powtrix [20:46] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [20:50] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-24-33-129-58.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:50] zero (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Nick change: zero -> Guest24888 [20:52] Does anyone else experience problems navigating DVDs with MPlayer? I can use the slider to navigate chapters and titles but if I use the menus to skip to different chapters MPlayer crashes. [20:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Guest24888 (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:56] rcscomp (n=Randy@74-128-243-173.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] zero (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Nick change: zero -> Guest89848 [20:57] Guest89848 (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:57] trying to startx completely locks up the machine. I can't even ctrl-alt-bksp to get rid of x. Tried Xorg -config and xorgsetup and have the same result. Suggestions? [20:58] ghettocomp (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] X -configure then copy /root/xorg.conf.new as /etc/X11/xorg.conf [21:00] Pig_Pen: I used Xorg -configure to make sure I was using the /root/xorg.conf.new file. Also, xorgsetup installs to /etc/X11/xorg.conf already. [21:00] it still might not fix it if you run in to that missing "AllowEmptyInput" "False" in the ServerFlags section [21:01] if that works...... [21:01] cant get rid of horizontal white lines at top of my screen [21:03] never seen that problem before, epoch [21:03] i move my mouse to what should be the top of the screen [21:03] and it keeps going [21:03] its almost like my screen is a piece of paper if you can picture that, with the top inch folded over itself [21:04] because the mouse flips upside down and comes downward as i move it upward [21:04] past the actual monitor border itself [21:04] thats odd [21:04] epoch, i've seen that before [21:04] yea [21:04] very odd [21:04] epoch, i have no idea why it happens and i haven't seen it since WinXP came out [21:05] its like X thinks my monitor is ___ long when its not [21:05] sometimes changing my resolution and refresh rate fixed it for me [21:05] ive googled endlessly, asked in here before [21:05] ghettocomp, done that a ridiculous amount of times [21:05] different combinations to no avail [21:05] maybe bump the screen resolution down a notch, epoch [21:05] figurecd [21:06] figured [21:06] What's graphics chipset? [21:06] nv 5500 [21:06] geforce [21:06] eww, that's an oldish one, right? [21:06] not ancient [21:06] 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1) [21:06] to be exact [21:06] it is about 4 or 5 years old [21:07] it worked fine with 12 [21:07] Using nvidia proprietary driver or the xorg nv driver? [21:07] prop [21:07] i haven an nvidia geforce 4 32mb now that's ancient :( [21:07] this one is 256mb [21:07] not *that bad [21:07] epoch: this really isn't a solution per se, but does that happen with the nv driver? [21:07] still pretty old compared to whats out there now though [21:08] grazymax (n=grazymax@host133-26-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:08] should i just change "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg and try that? [21:08] grazymax (n=grazymax@host251-48-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:08] because i havent tried that yet [21:08] hell worth a shot brb [21:08] epoch: assuming you're on 13.0, that would involve removing the nvidia driver, reinstall xorg-server, and move xorg.conf outof the way. [21:09] oh [21:09] yucky [21:09] I think the nvidia driver overwrites libGL* too, so those would need to be restored. [21:09] run that nvidia driver with --uninstall as a parameter [21:09] The nvidia-* build scripts at SlackBuilds.org include an "nvidia-switch" script that handles all of that for you [21:10] those are the ones i used [21:10] bash-3.1# which nvidia-switch [21:10] /usr/sbin/nvidia-switch [21:10] mtkoan (n=mtkoan@c-98-221-81-117.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:10] the nvidia driver does save a backup of the files it replaces in /var/run somewhere and it restores them when you run --uninstall on it [21:10] ooh, good. Use that then. :) [21:10] ok [21:10] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:10] --nvidia Switch to nvidia driver files [21:10] --xorg Switch to stock xorg files [21:11] which one? [21:11] Pig_Pen: I wasn't aware of that - nice. I don't have any nvidia hardware. [21:11] epoch: --xorg [21:11] ok [21:11] then mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia or some such [21:11] You have to DISABLE the nvidia driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. [21:11] Otherwise, this may lead to improperly working drivers. [21:11] ok doing that now [21:12] then just restart x? [21:12] Pig_Pen: /var/lib/nvidia [21:12] Ick, afk for a bit; my two year old has a "gift" for me, judging from the smell. [21:12] yeah [21:12] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] i knew it was in /var somewhere [21:12] Pig_Pen: they aren't named sensically either. [21:13] Also replacing the GL headers [21:14] anybody use compiz slackbuilds from 12.2 to 13? [21:15] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] still got lines but they shrunk substantially [21:16] instead of a solid inch of gay horizontal white lines, i now have a tolerable 2 millimeters of white lines [21:16] looks like success to me [21:16] call it a win! [21:16] epoch: weird. I can't help but wonder if it's a hardware problem though. Any chance of testing in another distro or on Windows? (ick) [21:17] yea windows its fine [21:17] no lines at all [21:17] Oh. [21:17] and note that 3d acceleration is not going to happen using the nv driver [21:17] brb kids need to get out of bathtub [21:17] Action: NaCl had lines on his lappy once, monitor fizzled out [21:17] If it's a CRT monitor, try different refresh rates. [21:18] NaCl: any smoke or fire? [21:18] and sunglasses to keep your retinas intact [21:18] Mefached1 (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Nick change: Mefached1 -> Mefached [21:19] MLanden: nope [21:21] epoch (i=1000@adsl-99-155-148-139.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] epoch (i=1000@99.155.148.139) joined ##slackware. [21:22] or maybe change the color depth from 24 to 16 [21:24] im back to my solid inch of white lineage...i gotta have my 3d acceleration [21:24] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] for none other than wolfenstein enemy-territory [21:24] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:24] paissad (n=paissad-@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:25] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:25] now_playing[Tom Angelripper Kreuzberger Nchte ] length[0:54/2:52] [21:26] Action: NaCl senses a disturbance in the force [21:26] sorry, I farted :( [21:28] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] schnaps das war sein letztes wort [21:28] did you just ask to kiss my butt? [21:28] No [21:29] Something was someone's last word [21:29] I just asked you to drink for fuck's sake [21:29] didn/t look like it to me :P [21:29] witukind_: Woher kommen Sie? [21:30] Meckafett, aus Lothringen [21:31] witukind_: Und wo ist das? Deutschland? [21:31] waffle [21:32] Das war nach 60 jahre in Deutschland [21:33] witukind_ (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:34] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-224-86.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [21:34] Seit das zweite Weltkrieg? (Tut's mir Leid; ich habe nur ein bisschen Deutsch gelernt, weil ich ein Amerikaner bin.) [21:34] back [21:37] what in the world [21:37] ich wohne america [21:37] mord leute! [21:40] rcscomp (n=Randy@74-128-243-173.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:41] doot de doo... [21:42] poo [21:42] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:42] ffmpeg is taking it's sweet time compiling [21:44] take care,folks...talk to all later.:D [21:45] MLanden (n=MLanden@141.152.171.167) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles!" [21:45] epoch, du vertehst gar kein deutsch :D [21:46] dont put your witchcraft spells on me [21:46] Action: epoch slaps his chest twice turns around and spits on the floor [21:46] gm152_ (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Du amerikaner (sagt 'ner Logthringer) :D [21:47] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.161.28) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Action: epoch slaps his chest twice, turns around, spits on the floor, and puts a Luger 9mm to your cranium [21:48] mach dat net! [21:48] i have a cat named umlaut [21:48] mine is Screamy [21:48] mine is milo [21:48] mine is Maurice [21:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host251-48-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:49] from milo & otis, he looks exactly like milo [21:49] and that sums up my knowledge of the teutonic languages... [21:49] English is a teutonic language [21:50] The most widely spoken Germanic languages are English and German. [21:50] true [21:50] pulled from wiki on 'teutonic languages' [21:50] English? I am in the south, they don't speak english here [21:50] It always bothers me when people say English is a Romance language [21:51] Mefached, who says that? [21:51] das Englisch hat zuviel latein inflssen sag ich [21:51] i thought french was the romance language [21:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:51] epoch: it is [21:51] A lot of people who don't know what they're talking about [21:51] epoch: rather *a* romance language [21:51] Romance languages are like French, Italian, etc (Latin-based) [21:51] French is the most Germanic of the latin languages [21:51] Not -romantic- per se [21:51] french/spanish [21:51] french kiss, french fries = love [21:52] it must be true! [21:52] zahris (n=zahris@202.78.206.18) joined ##slackware. [21:52] It ain'st [21:52] ain't [21:52] depends where you are in france [21:52] some so-called "french" are germans [21:52] nothing says romance like fried potatoes [21:52] LinuxyErin (n=erin@99.188.117.81) joined ##slackware. [21:53] my geneology is traced back to merklingen, germany [21:53] fried potatoes are belgian the ignorant americans call it french [21:53] ... [21:53] ignorant americans... [21:53] dont make me post the youtube link to angry german kid... [21:54] epoch: really? I guess that explains the last name :) [21:54] americans are unable to point out where Lothringen is [21:54] yea [21:54] zahris (n=zahris@202.78.206.18) left irc: Client Quit [21:54] witukind: because we dont xare [21:54] s/xare/care [21:54] i believe hey are called french fries due to the thin , i.e. french cut of the potatoes [21:54] I'm thinkin you're in the wrong room flip boy [21:54] I don't know geography very well at all, even American geography [21:54] greetings andarius [21:54] andarius: cause you think it makes not difference [21:54] salutations hitest, how goes ? [21:54] folks in merklingen germany farm quite a bit of land judging by google maps [21:54] witukind: to me, it does not [21:54] and that we should all speak proper english [21:55] and they all strangely have red roofs... [21:55] it goes well, andarius:) how are you? [21:55] tile roofs are neat [21:55] not bad. resting :) [21:55] A bunch of Inns there. :) [21:55] andarius: yeah..taking it easy as well [21:55] geh weg du besatzer [21:56] lame, 100% lame [21:56] wir kmpfen fr unser weg zum leben [21:57] seig feil! [21:57] du kannst nur das sagen auf Deutsch [21:57] kampf = life #american history x [21:57] struggle [21:57] wow, enough nonsense for me. I thought this was an english speaking channel.... [21:58] it is [21:58] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("latter tatters"). [21:58] latter tatters [21:58] double fail [21:58] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.82.110) joined ##slackware. [21:58] it is a slackware speaking channel i thought [21:58] On good days. [21:58] verkolding sounds awfully german [21:59] vergeltung [21:59] Volkerding [21:59] yea [21:59] volkerding [21:59] nevermind [21:59] imagine that [21:59] the german are the best people I ever met [21:59] procyonlabs (n=randy@pool-71-179-252-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:59] and then theres that Torvalds, obviously some kind of commie ;\ [21:59] one time this spanish kid came up to me and said "mexicans rule" [22:00] :) [22:00] Torvald's a swede finn [22:00] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:00] just saying ameru=ica isn't the whole world... [22:00] Thor - Wald, Thor and wood.. [22:01] ok this keyboard is obviously on some kind of crack [22:01] definititely [22:01] i have a frito lay keyboard [22:01] Get a new keyboard? They're pretty cheap. [22:01] I'd like that america stopped to suggest that capitalism is the best system [22:01] is that what that name means? [22:01] Action: thrice` sighs [22:01] if i lick my keyboard, it would undoubtedly taste like ranch [22:02] witukind: Capitalism -is- the best system. What else works? Everything else either fails to progress or rewards those who don't progress at all. [22:02] and give me various diseases as well [22:02] mmmmm mine tastes like bourbon... [22:02] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left ##slackware. [22:02] epoch: Keyboards are dirtier than airport bathrooms. [22:02] and this is where the channel goes to shit. [22:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [22:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:02] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.234.97) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Mefached: socialism works better, i.e Norway, in norway most people are richer than in the US [22:02] wow watch the people shit themselves over nothing [22:03] i hate whiners... [22:03] Let's take the politics elsewhere. [22:03] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [22:03] to #politics [22:03] That works. Anywhere but here is fine. [22:03] no one can argue that norway isn't the place with the best living standard in the world. [22:04] et-time [22:04] epoch (i=1000@99.155.148.139) left irc: Client Quit [22:04] Anyone can argue anything. Now argue elsewhere. [22:04] sure [22:05] thanks :) [22:05] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Client Quit [22:05] hail Obama and Bush ave! [22:05] sieg heil USA [22:06] let's all be blessed by the wonders of competition [22:06] witukind: Come on, now you're just being obstinate; if you want to argue over PM, I'd be glad to do so. :) [22:06] ok [22:07] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:09] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.46.236) left irc: "Leaving" [22:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] i have a NIC that seems to detect and work properly etc... [22:12] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:12] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724923.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:12] but it doesn't transfer any traffic [22:12] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:12] wont get a dhcp address etc [22:12] verified the cable is good [22:12] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-1-182.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] is this a sure sign of hardware failure or might i be missing something? [22:14] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724923.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] is it your primary interface? [22:15] h3n (i=h3n@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@server1.bshellz.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:15] h3n kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Stop wasting my oxygen. [22:15] Smashing (n=stargaze@201-13-30-91.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [22:15] it's eth0 [22:15] i have eth1 [22:16] eth1 works as intended [22:16] take the cord from eth1 place it in eth0, can't get dhcp, tried configuring static with no luck [22:16] Kamel: did you try setting static ip? how do you know that dhcp server will respond to eth0? [22:16] does your etho interface show up when you run lspci? [22:16] yes [22:16] ghettocomp: uhmm, lspci doesn't show eth0 [22:17] it does, actually [22:17] in my case [22:17] Kamel: can you paste the output of 'ifconfig eth0'? [22:17] it will shoe the interface thas a device though [22:17] ananke: i've actually already removed the card, heh sorry [22:17] Kamel: it doesn't show 'eth0' [22:17] and perhaps you need to modprobe the module for it [22:17] Kamel: then how do you expect to receive help? :) [22:17] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:17] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.213.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] ananke: it showed as 01:08.0 Class 0200: 1113:1211 (rev 10) [22:18] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Kamel: see, no 'eth0' there. [22:18] do you know what kind of card it is? [22:18] Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX 8139too which all seemed correct [22:18] well, the writing on the side seems to indicate that is correct [22:19] ouch. 8139 chipset [22:19] it's my spare... [22:19] my main (tulip mod) is completely shot [22:19] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:19] i guess it's time to get a new one =\ [22:19] yeah. stay away from realtek if possible :) [22:20] eh it was pulled from an old crappy pc [22:20] j3ss (n=j3s@adsl-66-139-218-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] i need some help [22:21] with my slackware installation [22:22] you'd need to be a bit more specific than that. we assume you have problems with slackware and not your microwave [22:22] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166002 <--- anyone tried one of these? [22:23] ananke: actually, my microwave doesn't have a spinning tray in it, any way you could help me with that? :P [22:23] hehe [22:23] Does anyone have any idea why my wlan0 interface seems to be busted? I can't "ifconfig wlan0 up" it; it complains about a missing file or directory. [22:23] |dfrank| (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Mefached: check the drivers [22:24] Mefached: you're not root. [22:24] i'm trying to install slackware 13 on my laptop [22:24] or rather, you became root by running 'su' and ifconfig is not in your $PATH [22:24] I can boot from the dvd just fine [22:24] ananke: I am indeed running as root with a do this. ifconfig works fine with eth0. [22:25] *when I do this [22:25] Mefached: i'm somehow not believing it. show us. pastebin.com the entire command and the results [22:25] loaded the kernal and partitioned my hard drive. but when I run 'setup' and try to select the source media, slackware doesnt recognize the dvd [22:25] NaCl: As I told you before, I have absolutely no clue how I would go about checking the drivers. :P [22:26] :P [22:26] ananke: I'll be right back, I'll pastebin afterwards. [22:26] j3ss: not unusual. booting kernel from a given device is not the same as the kernel being able to operate that device [22:27] j3ss: sounds like slackware's kernel doesn't have drivers for your controller [22:27] Mefached: did you iwconfig first? [22:27] ananke: his "ifconfig wlan0 up" complains about missing SIOWLANCFLAGS or something like that [22:28] Action: NaCl forgot the actual text [22:28] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:28] NaCl: yeah, that's a bit different than 'missing file or directory' :) [22:28] ananke: is there a way to fix the issue? [22:29] ananke: it was saying that "SIOBLAHFLAHS" was no such file or directory. :P [22:29] j3ss: which version of slackware are you using? [22:29] 13 [22:29] NaCl: now that's just silly :) gotta love those errors [22:30] broadcom drivers probably aren't set up right [22:30] j3ss: in that case, there is no easy way to fix it. you already have the latest release of slackware [22:30] There is an experimental kernel in testing [22:30] 2.6.30, I believe [22:30] j3ss: you could ftp the whole directory tree to your hard drive, and mount the directory where you save it and install from there [22:31] that is what i do [22:31] no cd at all here [22:31] j3ss: you could also try another distro, see if it boots. [22:31] ananke: i had ubuntu on it prior [22:32] there are other distros? :\ [22:32] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] hmm, speaking of broadcom, i need to find some documentation on bnx2i driver. there's so little on that topic out there [22:32] Sorry, my client died. Did anyone say anything of interest since my last comment? [22:32] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:33] Mefached: yes. we have a new president, and global warming is here. [22:33] If it didn't send properly, "ifconfig wlan0 up" returns "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" and yes, I am running as root. [22:33] "iwconfig" shows that the card is detected. "lspci | grep Broadcom" agrees. [22:35] |dfrank| (n=dfrank@188.134.8.110) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] you need firmware [22:36] broadcom always gave me the same pain in the behind [22:36] ananke: So what would I do? Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with any Linux distro that didn't just work out of the box with Broadcom. [22:36] I have absolutely loved Slackware so far; I just don't know how to do this. [22:38] Mefached: i'm not sure if slackware has a package for firmware. once downloaded firmwarefiles would go in /lib/firmware/ directory [22:39] or there is the b43cutter i was able to get my broadcom working with that but it was a bit of a pain [22:40] bcm43xx-fwcutter [22:40] ghettocomp: Does that work for 4306? I have a friend who got it working with 4311. [22:40] that was it... [22:41] Mefached: when you run that 'ifconfig wlan0 up' command, check 'dmesg | tail -10' [22:41] Mefached: it should tell you what file it wants [22:41] ananke: That told me exactly what URL to go to find it! Thank you. [22:41] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:42] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] uva (i=bno@118-160-171-32.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:53] fhobia: when it's synced [22:53] aiiiiiii (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Client Quit [22:53] oh, it worked...took like 5 minutes i guess [22:53] aiiiiiii (i=petrich@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [22:54] 'ntpq peers' shows you some details regarding your servers [22:55] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:55] night all [22:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:00] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] ghettocomp (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:03] Mefached (i=500@c-75-65-53-44.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:07] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) joined ##slackware. [23:08] I found a Zenwalk guide to b43 and b43-legacy, is following that guide going to work or has Zenwalk changed something somehow? [23:11] did you try to download the firmware in question? [23:11] lol i forgot i had this thing open [23:11] i was gonna see if anyone knew how to get cpufreqd to work on slackware64 [23:12] and i ended up just giving up on it and tried cpudynd [23:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] which turns out it works better [23:12] or at least is easier to use [23:12] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:12] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] epoch (i=1000@99.155.148.139) joined ##slackware. [23:13] zero (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Success [23:13] Mefached (n=jonathan@66.175.144.84) left ##slackware. [23:14] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Nick change: zero -> Guest66622 [23:14] Guest66622 (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:15] j9xinca (n=j9xinca@dpc693573155.direcpc.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] ghettocomp (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] j9xinca (n=j9xinca@dpc693573155.direcpc.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:22] hmm anyone tried to build wine on slackware64 [23:24] LinuxyErin: get a 32-bit package [23:25] And 32-bit dependencies [23:32] lee555J5 (n=lee555J5@68-113-107-77.static.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:37] j3ss (n=j3s@adsl-66-139-218-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:38] lee___ (n=lee__@ip70-191-241-120.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] Nick change: lee___ -> ghost [23:38] Nick change: ghost -> Guest38752 [23:38] Nick change: Guest38752 -> lee___ [23:39] Nick change: lee___ -> ghost [23:39] grazymax (n=grazymax@host46-153-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:39] Nick change: ghost -> lee_ [23:39] ghettocomp (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] gd doesn't come with SW13? [23:40] grazymax (n=grazymax@host223-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:43] ghettocomp (n=dad@h46.41.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] straterr1 (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [23:44] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:44] Nick change: ghettocomp -> l34rning [23:44] well that was pretty nifty [23:45] and from a command line no less :) [23:47] wikipedia is growing lame [23:48] half of the page i am looking at is an orange box enumerating the faults of the page, including that it is of questionable notability and may be deleted [23:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenACS [23:48] so instead of finding a different source of information, lets gawk at a failed one [23:49] What is the purpose of this notice? [23:49] Meepo (n=Meepo@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [23:49] hello [23:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:49] pi31415 there's a wiki chan here [23:50] epoch, ok, i will drop the subject [23:51] sup guys [23:51] spook, have you tried savevm on qemu ? [23:51] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] i updated to slackware64 current and all icons disapeared, i tired running update-mime-database and i get this http://pastebin.ca/1714006 [23:52] zahris (n=zahris@202.78.206.18) joined ##slackware. [23:52] jeev: yeah i had a play with it a long time ago [23:53] hmm, it's fgiving me an error [23:54] anyone here know how to confirm, or not, if GD is currently installed on a SW 13 install? [23:54] lee_: it is. [23:54] and if not installed, which package is best used to install it (slackbuilds doesn't seem to have one). [23:54] ahh, raw doesn't. [23:55] /var/log/packages/gd-2.0.35-i486-3:PACKAGE LOCATION: ./gd-2.0.35-i486-3.txz [23:55] rworkman: I thought it would, but a couple of scripts show it not for some reason. [23:55] lee_: let me guess: you did an install without X, right? [23:55] there is gd-2.0.35 ... [23:55] hmm. [23:56] rworkman: yes [23:56] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:56] Meepo: This is something you should have confirmed before hand, but i am pretty sure i've heard that current is running a different kde version than 13.0-x64. this is probably going to mess with your prior cache/local/kde settings in your user dir. [23:56] lee_: for future reference, you need to tell people that when you ask for help. [23:56] rworkman: will remember that. [23:56] lee_: for the present, there are about six packages you need from the X series. Use ldd(1) to find them. [23:57] as in, ldd /usr/lib*/libgd.so [23:58] gm152_ (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:58] the only ones not found are: libXpm.so.4, libX11.so.6, and libfontconfig.so.1 [00:00] --- Mon Dec 14 2009