[00:00] Pupuser402: uh...... [00:00] puppy isn't slackware. they have different names for a reason. you'll need to modify the build scripts to build it with the cpu optimizations you want [00:01] aka slackware fork #51569 [00:04] Pupuser402: If you switch to slackware, we might know then. [00:05] perl -e 'print scalar localtime(1234567890),"\n";' [00:05] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-70-132-7-45.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Pupuser402 (n=puppy@123-243-198-100.static.tpgi.com.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:09] w/in 5 [00:09] oops, wrong window [00:11] gm152 (n=glen@d121-145-96.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:11] ccfreak2k: ate -ud @1234567890 :P [00:11] s/ate/date/ [00:14] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:30] what's the accepted way to install software? [00:30] ./configure && make && make install? [00:31] build a script [00:31] Make a slackbuild! [00:31] it's been 7-8 years since I've used slackware, what in god's name is a slackbuild? [00:31] http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script [00:32] check slackbuilds.org for existing scripts too [00:32] http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild [00:35] interesting. [00:35] not to offend anyone, but why not just use a source based repository? [00:36] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] if you want that use a distribution that has that [00:36] I'm not trying to antagonize you, I understand that everyone does something for some reason or another. [00:36] I want to understand *why* you do it this way. [00:37] Clearly it's not for stupid reasons, you don't use Windows afte rall. [00:37] why do the others use a source based repo? [00:37] I'm asking for a diff of you versus source based repo. [00:37] well, not "you", but Slackware. [00:37] and the users thereof. [00:38] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] from what i understand, slack is about using source as it is intended, so they build scripts that word on vanilla source, ive noticed that on slackbuilds.org you cannot download a single bit of source, but they link you to the authors source, and provide a script to place everything in a logical place [00:38] callen: slackbuild scripts create packages that are designed to install properly on a slackware system. These packages can also easily be upgraded or removed. [00:39] callen, Slackware's about control. One builds packages over and above stock issue Slackware as they need them apps. Building your own means you have *your* own pre-defined dependencies and of course, your own errors. Example: I build all gnome, my gnome doesnt use pulseaudio...I don't like pulse..you digg? [00:39] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:40] callen, it's the control..if I want an app to be in /opt I can and don't break package management. no one forces me otherwise. [00:40] I understand now. Thanks fogie. [00:40] basically, it's source the way it was intended, not some blob handed to you by ports, right? [00:40] so basically, we're all "Control freaks" :) [00:41] *nods* [00:41] yep [00:41] makes sense to me. [00:41] i have a whole area dedicated to my own build scripts and various SBo scripts [00:41] i need to make one of those heh [00:41] next upgrade [00:41] I don't think it's for me, but I'm glad this distro is here if I ever go OCD or the other distro maintainers drink mercury for breakfast. [00:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:44] callen, I would have agreed with you prior to slackbuilds.org and slacky.eu and SBopkg and a few other third party repo of buildscripts _really_ taking off, showing active development, etc. But now, I really like it. For me, on old boxes, what's nice is, I build my stuff once, and they just work on the other boxes and makes life simple for me. [00:44] nullboy: quite a bit, I'm paid a salary to maintain ~300 servers. I just can't be bothered as long as it works. [00:44] Old_Fogie: I could see the usefulness on an old machine, definitely. [00:44] for say, a router. [00:45] callen, what's really cool for me is, I can run bleeding edge stuff, actually build it on Slack :) I'm ahead of ubuntu and fedora on gnome for example :) [00:45] this conversation happens at least a few times a month and usually it is someone who knows another distribution pretty well too. [00:46] yup [00:46] callen i think that if you really knew what slack was about and how its managed, your 300 servers would seem a little easier to manage [00:46] not really sure how much routers really need building tho to between us girls (for that example) [00:46] Old_Fogie: nifty. what sort of things do you run like that? [00:46] stitchman: no man, *laughs hard* you have no idea how they're maintained. [00:46] stitchman: they are patched for security and *nothing* else. [00:46] Old_Fogie: us girls? [00:47] callen, I give Slackware to friends and family, I'm not an admin, nor do I play one on tv (girls was a figure of speech, no I'm not a girl either :) [00:47] that sounds like the security email i get a couple times a month from slackware :) [00:47] nullboy: I was just worried you'd think I was trolling. it's not that, I just wanted to understand. [00:47] callen, nah it's valid questions, imo. [00:47] stitchman: you really don't understand what kind of network I'm dealing with. Really really. [00:47] ~300 boxen, but ~50,000 clients. [00:47] callen: well you're trying to understand personal preferences and that's not going to even be understandable [00:47] r/n [00:48] Action: callen nods [00:48] callen, see again for me, I run pc's from 166mhz (even with a gui and wireless wpa) thru amd 2500. they all run same pax, and all run nice n smooth. one distro, easy to maintain for me, along with my family/friends. I found it easier to maintain one distro then a hodge podge. I've been fortunate for our needs, others aren't so much so I suppose. [00:49] the ~300 servers I maintain have a rainbow of Red Hat distros across them. [00:49] stuff from 1998-2008 [00:50] callen, lastly, the Slack community's only not answered maybe a handful of my questions; and believe me I've asked alot and they've been so helpful. Kind of hard to use other distro at that point. [00:50] between you guys and me, the Ubuntu community is terrible and the chanops are fascists. [00:51] us you and the public log of the channel ;) [00:51] callen, also we don't get BS like what debian had with their openssl (where they messed with the libs); Slackware doesnt fiddle-futs with sources and act like they know better than the devs. (yes I do use debian too for family that lives to far away fwiw) [00:52] or was that openssh [00:52] I forget atm. [00:52] stitchman: pffffft. fsck them and their /dev/*da's. [00:53] Old_Fogie: it was openssl, and yes it was stupid. I still use debian because I'm finicky about time usage and like apt-get quite a bit. [00:53] well, debian at home. Use fedora at work for reasons I don't care to tell a story about. [00:54] and no, I'm not happy about it. [00:54] hate yum. haaaaaaaaaate rpms. [00:54] callen, if you got some hd space, grab the buildscript from SBo (slackbuilds.org) for virtualbox opensource version. run Slack in a vm. and play with it. I'm sure the first thing you notice is the simplicity. And by that I mean, just works, not overdone. It's a breath of fresh air. [00:55] Lae2ol4j (n=Zi0n@adsl-76-195-5-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Lae2ol4j (n=Zi0n@adsl-76-195-5-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:55] Old_Fogie: like freebsd for Linux? :P [00:55] (minus ports!) [00:56] I can say one thing for sure, you guys are friendly. nice change. :) [00:57] callen, that's a pretty good comparison. freebsd has a way to catch up to linux in general for some finishing touches, like fit - finish - and polish. But freebsd has incredibile doc's tho. I have freebsd here, am truly enjoying it last 6 months. But I dont really do any building etc on it. [00:57] I like to change my own oil, slack let's me do that. [00:57] I wonder how they marshalled their devs into documenting the damn thing. [00:57] I don't know, but I applaud them for that. [00:58] callen, there is some very nice 3rd party web books for slackware tho as well. [00:58] what amuses me, is sometimes on Linux for configuring various applications/services, I have to fallback to the FreeBSD handbook. [00:58] callen, yes I did for openssh [00:58] the x.org/xfree documentation is quite good. [00:58] and openssh. and everything else in that general realm. [00:58] freebsd is awesome:) [00:58] even when using Slack, and had neve tried *bsd at the time. [00:58] I knew about the docs because I used FreeBSD for a little while. [00:59] as you put it, polish was lacking, but it was *damn* robust. [00:59] yup [00:59] yeah [00:59] I haven't tried openbsd, or netbsd yet. I did try and use pcbsd for a while, and that too was very nice. [00:59] I still want to try OpenBSD, but I can't decide if I want to do anything that could potentially feed Theo de Raadt's ego or not. [00:59] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:00] callen, if Slackware dropped off the face of the earth, it's looking like I'd go straight to fbsd and be done with it. [01:00] Old_Fogie: couldn't blame you, although at least the ports on it are better than what you get with Linux attempts at imitating package management. [01:00] OBSD is nice if not as ready for mainstream use as the others. Theo's not that bad actually. Just Opinionated - like Pat :) [01:00] I mean, they maintain the whole ecosystem from the ground up. [01:01] which is impressive. [01:01] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] callen, yes. reason I build gnome here is that a few apps I like. she got hooked on dropline gnome (3rd party gnome for Slack); fbsd has gnome. that too is a consideration. [01:01] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] she==wife [01:02] Old_Fogie: yep, I'd go with FreeBSD if Slackware wasn't my first love. [01:02] Old_Fogie: figured. [01:02] over openbsd? :( [01:02] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-4-33-104.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Ficthe: most people don't need an OS that doesn't run anything out of the box except a getty for 'security' :P [01:02] I kid, I kid. [01:02] personally, i prefer BDSM [01:03] I don't recall telling you to get out of your cage? [01:04] callen, oh fwiw, I also like that Slack is run by one man. Decisions are made, decisions are lived with. heh, fortunately none have burned me yet, lol. [01:04] callen, no debian voting here. [01:04] PV rules [01:04] ++ [01:05] Old_Fogie: I'm not a fan of democracy myself. [01:05] I was worried when PV was having health issues though. [01:05] that's the blogosphere, pay them no mind. [01:05] how long ago was that? [01:05] ages? [01:05] years? [01:05] I can say that, becuase if you look in /src tree (the sources for Slack); he is *so* damn open about how he builds this, it would be picked up and maintained in no time. [01:06] 2 libraries of congress ago [01:06] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [01:06] as far as i know, there are contingency plans in place to cover such an event [01:07] nullboy, I've heard he has silent partner. plus he owns the trademarks, so the wife get's that, and a say. I'm sure she wouldnt let the revenue stream die. Well, at least I wouldn't. [01:08] name one other distro that plans for DEATH? [01:08] if it's your business, you do. it would be foolish to not. my 0.02$ [01:09] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:09] this is his job after all. he has mouths to feed. I'm sure he's taken steps if he's a responsible parent, husband and I have no reason to think otherwise. [01:09] Hello. Since I started booting into runlevel 4, using xdm, the scroll wheel of my mouse stopped working. any ideas? [01:09] it's human nature to look out for your loved one's and all in the event of your untimely demise. [01:09] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:10] dscpl0: it is configured in your xorg.conf? [01:10] nullboy, yes [01:10] nullboy, but also in my .Xmodmap [01:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:11] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [01:11] Old_Fogie: PV makes a living maintaining slackware? [01:12] yes [01:12] callen, yup since it's inception [01:12] nullboy, hmm, think I found it. guess xdm doesn't run the ~/.xinitrc [01:12] I don't think he would keep doing it if he wasn't making a living [01:12] where's the monetization? [01:13] sellin CDs i guess [01:13] huh. not a bad way to make a living. [01:13] callen, cd's, gear, I wouldnt doubt some organizations hire him for maintenance, or install supervision, training, etc. he has an email address, he is after all, very accessilble. [01:14] Action: callen nods [01:14] I wonder what he uses for a mail client and server. [01:14] reading the xdm man page, I cannot find which user config script is being run at login... [01:14] honestly, I telnet into the mail servers at work. [01:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:16] dscpl0, which window manager? [01:16] callen, dont know what he uses. his mailer agent is 'alpine' tho. [01:16] dive xfce [01:17] callen, "bob.slackware.com" is shown in security mailing list headers :) [01:17] xfce has a way of autostarting apps - put your settings in a script and execute it from settings - autostart apps [01:18] dive, allright, guess I could try that. thanks [01:18] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:20] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [01:20] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [01:24] ang (n=ang@c-68-53-42-10.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] agentc0re, dont know if you looked at this or not, thought you might like to see http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/02/12/open-xchange-open-source-email-nears-10-million-paid-users/ [01:27] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:29] Old_Fogie: let me know if you try bmpanel i can tarball my themes. [01:29] Rat409, ok will do, thanks :) [01:29] ang (n=ang@c-68-53-42-10.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [01:30] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:31] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [01:36] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] Old_Fogie: http://wumwum.sourceforge.net/ a whaw type app,perl tho [01:41] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:43] yeah I have that as "to watch" ; I think when they have gnome xfce and kwin as 'good' as a minimal across the board, I'd try it. [01:44] yuh whaw's slick n quick and easy [01:45] worked fine in openbox [02:00] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [02:02] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-416216.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:15] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DgaGwle7mg <- wow.. "aero shake" in windows, I actually think it's a really really really neat feature [02:20] windows 7 [02:20] windows 7 is nice. I liked it when I tested it. [02:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3yiYV4wkkQ&feature=hd ..so similar to kde4 (to me) [02:21] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:22] ... [02:24] you know what bothers me most about M$'s approach to propgramming? They start with the eyecandy adn bells and whistles, and then if they have time actually work on the core guts of teh OS [02:25] sounds an awful lot like what's happening with Compiz/Berylk/whatever the fuck they're calling it now [02:26] they're merging it. [02:26] NyteOwl: there's a reason for that. it's a company by programmers, of programmers, for programmers (the ones working there) [02:26] NyteOwl, I take it you've talked to people who work at Microsoft? [02:26] ccfreak2k: occasionally [02:27] ccfreak2k: anybody who follows what they do extensively could tell you that. [02:27] That NyteOwl talks to people who work at Microsoft? [02:27] LSD`, so the 'aero shake' feature, or something similar is available to the *nixes? [02:29] Hold on, I think gcc just took a massive shit on my hard drive. [02:33] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:38] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:41] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. 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[02:50] yep, its web irc. java.freenode.net ;) and its being wierd..if i dont talk for a bit it logs me out :( [02:52] when i or others type something, it shows after like 10secs, and i miss lots of stuff ;) [02:52] sometimes its ok,sometimes its sooooo slow... and connection is fine [02:52] blackorca (n=blackorc@70-4-33-104.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:54] The-Croupier6 (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:55] The-Croupier: use irssi. [02:55] ktabic (n=ktabic@host81-139-194-250.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [02:57] callen: that is my favourite as well, but unfortunatelly im in work pc,(i.e winpc) -- on the other hand im reading bash scripting,,,and trying to find out an autonomous shell so that i can test the scripts [02:58] I use linux at work. *Shrugs* [02:58] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:58] screen + irssi + ssh + putty [02:59] spook ?! [02:59] putty ?!? [02:59] callen: i am not allowed [02:59] pity. [02:59] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:00] callen: i know [03:00] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:00] Nick change: The-Croupier6 -> The-Croupier [03:00] The-Croupier: not allowed to ssh out? [03:01] SiegeX, its a winpc, never ssh out from anything like this (ewww) [03:01] wahnfrieden (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-31ba060fa57e533b) joined ##slackware. [03:01] The-Croupier: better than using a crappy java client [03:01] putty? [03:01] sup [03:01] SiegeX: jfgi [03:02] google what [03:02] spook, yeah tell me about it [03:02] ssh to what? and putty to what? [03:02] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [03:02] your box at home [03:02] The-Croupier: if you setup ssh to listen on 443, somewhere, like home. [03:03] ssh on 443? [03:03] then you run irssi inside screen, so whereever you are, you can attach to the screen session and use irssi [03:03] SiegeX,i dont have a running slackware at home.i have my laptop with me, (in the bag,not allowed to open it) [03:03] or you can setup znc on your box at home so you are on freenode all the time, then use mIRC if you want a graphical irc client [03:03] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:03] NyteOwl: not many places block outgoing https [03:03] SiegeX, not allowed to install anything in this laptop [03:04] anyone like wu tang clan?? [03:04] ... [03:04] The-Croupier: install a portable IRC client ona USB stick [03:04] wahnfrieden: do you know what kind of person uses Linux? [03:04] stereotypically, anyway. [03:04] I prefer Clan Campbell myself :) [03:05] callen: black people? [03:06] yes, everyone who uses Linux is black. [03:06] we're all black. [03:06] cool [03:06] slackware has the blackest ones though. [03:06] ohthat sounds a little racist... [03:06] those pictures of linux conventions? whitey propaganda. I assure you. [03:06] spook: they may not block 443, but they may proxy it [03:07] s/may/will/2 [03:07] Action: NyteOwl isn't black he's tartan [03:07] :) [03:07] red guard?? [03:07] NyteOwl: you're black you uncle tom. [03:07] SiegeX: in putty you can configure it to use a proxy [03:08] not me, I had an Uncle Tom though [03:08] right, so now you have to have ssh listening on the end of an ssl tunnel at your box at home [03:08] not just having it bound to 443 [03:09] which is possible as this is what i had to do to get around my corp firewall. requires the use of apache with mod_proxy to redirect 443 to 22 [03:09] also requires a patch to apache since the maintainers do not believe that there is a legitimate use to have mod_proxy work with SSL [03:10] ODB RIP [03:10] cipher (n=guru@41.252.43.156) joined ##slackware. [03:10] wahnfrieden: west-siiiiiiiiiiide. :P [03:10] Action: callen pulls out a gat. [03:10] SiegeX: i use iptables -j REDIRECT [03:11] howdy [03:11] spook: iptables doesn't know anything about SSL [03:11] cipher: woo woo. [03:11] so you are redirecting an SSL encrypted session to ssh, and ssh says "WTF is this?" [03:11] how things slacker :P [03:12] this is why you need apache in the loop, since it can be an SSL endpoint. [03:12] callen: EAST SIDE BROOKLYN ZU [03:12] wahnfrieden: fried chikkens >>>>>> watermelons!! [03:13] naw [03:13] they equal! [03:13] naw, they diffrant! [03:13] naw [03:13] yaw. [03:13] n***a please [03:13] let me axe you a question nigga. why you thinkin theys equal? [03:13] theys ain't equal! [03:13] cuz they is both the most delicious [03:13] winpc --> putty/ssh(proxy command) --> proxytunnel --> corp proxy --> (begin SSL encryption) INTERNET --> Apache @ your box (end SSL encryption) --> mod_proxy redirect --> SSH server [03:14] callen, wahnfrieden pls use 'pm' or other channels for such talk. thank you in advance. [03:14] u gotta have youre watermelon after youre chickens [03:14] but either way they the same [03:14] ok ima go have a smoke.. peace [03:14] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Action: The-Croupier greets Old_Fogie [03:14] Old_Fogie: you a racist? [03:14] hello The-Croupier :) [03:14] long time no see old pal :( [03:14] Old_Fogie: sorry. [03:15] wahnfrieden, nobody is a racist in here, we are all from all around the world..;) and even if one was he wouldnt be here;) [03:15] The-Croupier, yes been quite busy, and the weather here has been keeping me busy. snow then rain, then snow. [03:15] augh! [03:15] spook: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ if you want to read more [03:16] anyone had luck installing crystal space? [03:16] wu tang forevefr [03:16] or is it crystalspace? [03:16] forever [03:16] Old_Fogie sounds like fun. on the other hand, i have so much to do..but psycologically really down,its worst then having a full month of rain and locked in a room with no computer [03:17] a month of rain and no computer sounds like a vacation [03:17] the only thing cheering me up a little even at work is #slackware [03:17] here it's snow warm rain cold freeze repeat [03:17] The-Croupier, in this economy, "work" == good :) [03:17] wahnfrieden,not for me. i love my slackware laptop [03:17] i love my windows 98 second edition laptop [03:18] The-Croupier, is your country going thru massive layoff's too? [03:18] but i also love physical experience and nature [03:18] i love my windows vista laptop [03:18] minus the windows vista part [03:18] Old_Fogie, ohhh dont get me wrong, i love work even if i dont get paid that much...teaching others,and helping ppl makes me feel good,but no lectures this week either :( [03:18] Old_Fogie, i think the whole world is [03:18] yea, but I don't read your language, so I can't browse the news there :) [03:19] i like my windows vista laptop, minus the..., actually i like my windows vista laptop [03:19] greek people are wierd,they whinge about economy and the clubs are EVERY NIGHT full [03:19] å,žq[~YK [03:19] my term parsed that. fascinating. [03:19] where does the mispelling "whinge" come from? i've read that twice today [03:19] Old_Fogie, if you need something tell me, im well happy to try to tell you what i can [03:19] The-Croupier, that's because people want hand outs, and want to party too. [03:19] nothing like forgetting about the state of the economy when you are blitzed [03:19] Old_Fogie: truth. [03:19] greek people maek the most amazing fucking delicious gyros/kebab ever [03:20] Old_Fogie, how can you with no money?! [03:20] wahnfrieden: yes. [03:20] yes what [03:20] The-Croupier, there was a town meeting here with Pres. Obama, and people were asking him for a house, more health insurance, even a new truck. I had to laugh, Pres. Obama's family in Africa lives (litterally) in a hutt! And these people want and need a new truck :) [03:20] wu tang? [03:21] (ODB RIP) [03:21] on one hand there is no money, on the other theres full clubs, and the tv is gone so much into porn...its so fscking depressing that people thing with their little head all the time and no actual ppl to talk to [03:21] The-Croupier, goes to show how people will just take n take, heh. [03:21] obama is a nigga like the best of us [03:21] Old_Fogie: I heard about people asking for stuff from him, I was appalled. [03:21] Old_Fogie, ohh yeah that is a fact...peole these days are getting greedier and greedier [03:22] heh, have you heard the obama quotes where he cusses [03:22] peole/people [03:22] wahnfrieden, again please refrain from offensive $LANG :) [03:22] no! [03:22] quote people siege [03:22] old fog: this isnt #perl [03:22] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] right, its from his book where he did the audio [03:22] callen, yeah you get the priv of talking to the Pres and you beg. oh my. [03:22] Old_Fogie: I would've been horrified if I'd been associated with one of the people who begged. [03:23] wahnfrieden, it's the rules of the channel. rules the rules. don't shoot the messenger. [03:23] Old_Fogie: we need a mentality more like what Kennedy spoke of. [03:23] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-100-98.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:23] wahnfrieden, man follow Old_Fogie's instructions ;) you will not regret it [03:23] callen, I would have too. [03:23] ok [03:23] Old_Fogie: on the other hand, if they are his family (in Africa) why ar ethey living in a hut? The man is a millionair so what happened to "charity ebgins at home"? [03:23] http://www.aprilwinchell.com/wp-content/cache/supercache/www.aprilwinchell.com/2009/02/05/barack-obama-is-tired-of-your-motherfucking-shit/index.html [03:23] the last one is the best [03:23] also, can i ask something irrelevant but i need your wisdom [03:24] im talking about africans in the same way yall are [03:24] NyteOwl, well it is their culture. Perhaps, and I have no way of knowing, they choose to live the way they were brought up, and are content with simplicity. I really dont know, I can only guess. I'd think he made the offer? I mean he has brought them here for his inauguration. [03:24] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-105863a52aa3974d) joined ##slackware. [03:24] is there a place where i don't have to listen to politics or racist garbage? [03:24] The-Croupier: sure but it will cost a nickel:) [03:25] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) left irc: "Leaving" [03:25] ejm: perhaps /you/ are the racist [03:25] The-Croupier, me? ask away. [03:25] ejm: the racist garbage yes politics is harder to get away from :) [03:26] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:26] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:28] ahahahah [03:28] crouper [03:28] Action: The-Croupier stopped using too many "?" [03:28] you are insane man [03:28] nigga is fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:28] mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-100-98.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-416216.home.otenet.gr) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] foldingstock (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-148-109.net.novis.pt) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.151.126) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] ananke (n=ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] sid77 (n=sid77@slackware.it) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) joined ##slackware. [03:28] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-68.washdc.fios.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] Redinger|off (i=Redinger@haut.dir.gleich.nen.paar.drauf.org) returned to ##slackware. [03:28] wahnfrieden, could be [03:28] The-Croupier, yes "first impressions" can be a killer. give it time, your GF is with you for a reason, else she'd have left you by now. I wouldn't make anything of it personally. If anything, be happy that we're in a day and age, where someone actually cares about other family members. If it's meant to be it's meant to be. [03:29] Old_Fogie, what is your opinion as i really appreciate and value it in most matters, as the oldest and wisest [03:29] Probablt just being protective (or jealous) [03:30] The-Croupier, tell her 'while I dont agree with his summation of me, I can respect and appreciate his family love for you. Hopefully in time he'll see me the way you do (insert slight brag here) and we'll be able to be a family". blah blah ...kiss hugs make up, hot steamy sweaty monkey sex to follow. [03:30] or you tried too ahrd and he thought you were covering something. Hard to know with people somethimes [03:30] yes, decent advice there [03:30] Old_Fogie, yeah you are right, but as i have done lots of crazy stupid things before (been with like 5gf at the same time..etc..etc) i really got it as him telling that to her to make me look bad [03:31] Old_Fogie: are you a concierge or something? [03:31] why do so many black people like to have sex and make babies? and they like picking corn??? [03:31] callen, no just have a bunch of kids, and well , I think we've all gone thru this at some point. [03:31] wahnfrieden, can you please refer to black ppl and lots of other stuff like that [03:31] Old_Fogie: god knows I have. [03:31] I thought there was a motion to ban mibbit? :) [03:32] croupier yes i can [03:32] Old_Fogie, as i expected you are right again. THANK YOU [03:32] since when do people pick corn? [03:32] it's threshed, not picked. [03:32] callen, since always [03:32] In time, you just learn to "pick your battles". Not everything needs random attention, and over dramatization. [03:32] callen sorry i got indians confused with em [03:32] callen: when they have a small home garden :) [03:32] I guess. [03:32] s/random/immedia [03:32] te [03:32] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn27.78-99-123.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [03:32] i am more concerned with jews, and their money. [03:32] darn, can't type here lol. [03:33] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) got lost in the net-split. [03:33] wahnfrieden ... [03:33] Old_Fogie, i have lied to her in the past and she knows it..cos i told her...now after the "be careful of that guy" she started picking the old lies :( [03:33] Old_Fogie: see, told you it was catching :) [03:33] how on earth can i fix that [03:33] Action: The-Croupier apologises to the #slackware for making this a private conversation [03:33] you can't. remind her you told her the truth about them (albeit after the fact) and let it go [03:33] jews gone wild [03:34] what a shame [03:34] finally 18 [03:34] The-Croupier, time will fix the wounds (assuming you dont lie no more) [03:34] wahnfrieden, looks like you are pushing your luck..and you might be banned...you have been warned..be careful [03:34] Old_Fogie,i said that already, "how can i believe you if you lied to me in the past?" [03:35] thats what i got [03:35] odb rip [03:35] has she ever lied to you? [03:35] i spent $10 on 5 beers today :/ [03:35] botled, in my house [03:35] smart. [03:35] bbiab [03:36] k [03:36] god, where do these idiots slither in from?! [03:36] chopp what? [03:36] dont be racist.... [03:36] chopp: dalnet :) [03:36] chopp, they are everywhere :) [03:37] Old_Fogie, THANK YOU appreciate it :) i'll do my best to follow your instructions and burry this deep down.. deep down im sure you are right, even if i think theres something wierd going on :( (cos im jealous guy) [03:38] Action: The-Croupier finished his crap, sorry #slackware [03:39] i'm from dalnet..... 8 years ago [03:39] dalnet died ages ago [03:39] what did you lie to about? banging some other girl or something less bad? [03:39] The-Croupier: we'll get over it, as I'm sure you will too. :) [03:39] ever since then, i've been chatting in #slackware, except when chopp is active [03:40] wahnfrieden: never seen you're sorry ass before. kthxbia [03:41] SiegeX, forget about it...lots of things...including that :( [03:41] lol [03:41] chopp,yep..that is for sure ;) [03:41] illusionpeace, unusual nick heh [03:41] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:42] BOFH. wow. [03:42] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:42] here we go again [03:42] ? [03:43] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [03:45] The-Croupier: well, if I were to be honest (and I will be), seems like her cousin's first impression wasn't too off base [03:46] SiegeX, i appreciate it... [03:46] ahahah i got a response from microsoft internship applications - and the entier email lacks any line returns. they fucked up their own templatign system. [03:46] The-Croupier: yeah, after all.. you are in ##slackware. I mean, how can a guy in here not be strange ;) [03:46] pprkut, lol [03:47] i resemble that remark [03:47] Action: The-Croupier is honored for being in here ;) [03:47] i mean resent [03:47] dive, you can resent as much as you want but that is true [03:47] quaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [03:48] ha [03:48] i like black people [03:48] well im just saying, youve already admitted to cheating on her and doing other nefarious acts. If i was her cousin Id have the same reaction. Instead of being mad at her cousin, perhaps you should be changing your ways. [03:48] SiegeX, i am doing that already...and what Old_Fogie said is perfect ;) [03:49] shows that i dont mind judgment,and that i care..;) (well i do NOW) [03:49] dive, only by resenting you are strange,you proved his point [03:49] i was j/k [03:50] even that is strange :p [03:50] I agree [03:50] that is strange too ;) [03:50] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:52] jarda-wien (n=jarda-wi@171-97.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch) joined ##slackware. [03:52] hello [03:54] hello. [03:54] I created an encfs wrapper script (like the manpage suggested) and I am trying to mout encfs at boot via fstab (without asking for a password), the trick is that with mount -a everything is fine, but encfs will not mount automatically at boot [03:54] I've never used encfs. [03:55] callen: what about other fuse filesystems? [03:55] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [03:55] they're technically being used, but I don't tinker other than to do the equivalent of an lsof. [03:55] I don't actually use slackware. [03:56] I'm just here because the guys here are awesome. [03:56] Wanna tinker with my stinker? [03:56] except for wahn. he's not so awesome. [03:56] racist [03:57] wahnfrieden: Ihr Gehirn ist eine Pfütze von Brei. [03:57] i dont speak kraut [03:57] I don't speak idiot [03:58] ? [03:58] haha [03:58] lol [03:58] ebonics is idiotic? [03:58] you're exemplary of that. [03:58] or at least of whatever linguistics aberration it is you utilize. [03:58] I don't use slack either LOL but this is not distro specific [03:58] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] you sir are racist [03:59] you sir are an affront to all that is sentient. [03:59] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:59] ODB RIP [03:59] you just hate black people! [03:59] you racist fuck [03:59] I don't hate anyone, I'm too busy. [03:59] You seem to have enough time to hate on me though. [04:01] wtf who is wahnfrieden ??? [04:01] i'm wagner [04:01] jarda-wien: honestly? I have no idea. [04:01] wahnfrieden: you're not wagner, you don't speak german. [04:02] that sounds racist [04:02] um.. wahn, you need a dictionary [04:03] Aldaron> um.. wahn, you need a thesaurus <--- fixed that for you. [04:03] wahnfrieden: you sound racist. [04:03] actually, he needs a bar of soap in his mouth [04:03] ah [04:03] i see how it is [04:03] he still at it? I put him on ignore long ago [04:03] yall wanna front [04:03] you want to stop speaking? [04:04] NyteOwl, :) [04:04] NyteOwl: yes, I keep feeding him nibbles of hope. [04:04] Hope and love. [04:04] yea if you wanna stop beefin [04:04] Old_Fogie: man, if he was my kid...;) [04:04] chopp: if he was your kid, he wouldn't be your kid. [04:04] im no kid straight up [04:04] chopp, you'd (a) hurt yourself (b) neuter yourself (c) take long walk off short pier ? :) [04:04] callen: you never heard the old saying about elading a horse to water? :) [04:05] or...(D) all of the above hahah. [04:05] wahnfrieden: you made some mistakes there. Let me help you: "I am not a child, this is the truth, I insist." [04:05] yes...noone here cares the "ghetto fabulous" act. [04:05] s/the/for the/ [04:06] callen: no, I believe a dictionary would be good as well, and I checked what "dictionary" means in a dictionary! [04:06] ngga pls [04:06] caty [04:06] callen, ty [04:06] yall is racist as fuck just cos i dont speak c++ [04:06] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "Person of african decent, you are not saying something congruent with what I believe to be correct." [04:06] lol [04:07] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "You are all prejudiced against people not of your lineage, just because I cannot program in the C++ Programming Language." [04:07] nigga plz [04:07] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "I am an ignorant twit, and cannot use an extended vocabulary beyond what I absorbed at the age of 5 from my peers." [04:07] :D [04:07] /exec pom --> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (83% of Full) [04:08] yea that is racist as fuck [04:08] explains a lot [04:08] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:08] i hope yall get shanked in a wank [04:08] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:08] cos u got it cummin [04:08] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "What you said was prejudiced against people of my lineage" [04:08] *cumin [04:08] wahnfrieden: someone insulting you, or some chinese person, or some african person, is not racist. [04:08] chinese? what the HECK [04:08] BOFH__ (n=berserk@87.18.86.253) joined ##slackware. [04:08] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "You have a punishment due to you because of your behaviour." [04:09] u is a funny cracka [04:09] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "*incorrect_correction" [04:09] u wack nigga plzzzzzzz [04:09] ..unless he insults all chinese people or african people or black people or red people or pygmi people [04:09] odb rip [04:09] wahnfrieden: Corrected:"Person of Chinese nationality, what are you talking about?" [04:09] pig me [04:09] hong kong aint chink! [04:09] wahnfrieden, the 80's just called, they want their ebonics back [04:09] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "You are a humorous person of anglo-american decent." [04:09] haw haw haw [04:09] i do crack cocained [04:10] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:10] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "You are out of your gourd, please stop speaking." [04:10] sweet, you do coke from the past! [04:10] i yam [04:10] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:10] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "Bad musician, please rest in the world beyond in peace." [04:10] im gourded out yall [04:10] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aeix11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [04:10] im no musician [04:10] rap aint music [04:10] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "pig me" [04:10] i yam pig me [04:10] eye yam sofa king [04:10] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "People from Hong Kong are not of asian decent." [04:10] black [04:10] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "laughter." [04:10] no asian != chinese [04:10] chink = chinese [04:11] yall is retardo as fucka [04:11] wahnfrieden: Corrected: "I do illegal drugs to help me forget the molestation I suffered at the hands of my stepfather." [04:11] i am a stepfather what of it [04:11] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [04:11] hi alienbob [04:11] alienBOB [04:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*i=47e84e*@*.com/x-31ba060fa57e533b' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [04:11] wahnfrieden kicked from ##slackware by alienBOB: alienBOB [04:11] hai [04:11] Thanks Old_Fogie [04:11] please don't kick me for correcting his English. [04:11] alienBOB, np yw [04:12] \o/ [04:12] I just care so much about proper vocabulary. *wipes tear* [04:12] callen: you were pretty funny at least ;) [04:12] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Aldaron: expert troll. [04:12] Hello, do anyone one have some time to help me a little [04:12] callen: you were trolling too - shut it [04:12] I one may have :) [04:12] alienBOB: he started it. :( [04:12] I was correcting and bowdlerizing his inappropriate language. [04:12] troll baiting should be our channel pastime [04:13] You should all have ignored him... a troll feeds on attention [04:13] dive: other people get offended [04:13] alienBOB: but everyone was delighting in it, and it was deflating him. [04:13] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:13] true [04:13] callen: trolling is just not allowed here [04:13] Well i've activated DRI in the xorg config file, check with glxinfo it says its of.. checked the xorg log and it has no errors [04:14] alienBOB: it wasn't trolling...it was meta trolling. Like lisp! [04:14] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [04:14] Lisp isn't coding, it's meta coding! [04:14] Action: callen grins earnestly. [04:14] callen: you're OK - you were trolling the troll, not the channel [04:14] precisely. :D [04:14] it's what I reserve my powers for. [04:14] BP{k}, hahaha you and kethry, quite a cute exchange :) http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1419 [04:15] still, if there was some on-topic conversation that was disturbed, then it's not as funny [04:16] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] Hoogin: sorry, I don't know about that :P [04:16] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.197) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Ok [04:17] InspectorCluseau: Clouseau [04:17] anyone elsee? [04:17] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:17] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Hoogin: is there any way we can convince you to not use DRI? [04:17] Hoogin, it should have a message to run glxinfo -v or something? [04:18] direct rendering: No :( [04:18] Smith ... smyth [04:18] Hoogin, I had some problems like that with radeon ... can't recall the message now [04:18] im using a radeon.. it hates me [04:19] Hoogin, it turned out to be looking for a driver in the wrong place - a symlink fixed it [04:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] did that show up as a error in the xorg log? [04:19] Hoogin: proprietary drivers/radeonhd? [04:19] I don;t recall now [04:20] radeonhd... the other ones just crash [04:20] I'm sure glxinfo -v said something [04:20] anyway must dash now [04:20] Radeons suck with linux. Mine doesn't even work anymore at all (seems the new driver just forgot how to work with older mobile radeons) [04:20] the ones from ATI just gave me a blackscreen [04:21] same here ;) [04:21] im thinking of installing my old nvidia card but its not as good, i wonder if it even can run 1920x1200 [04:21] Hoogin: google the model. [04:22] guess im going to buy a nvidia card when i buy a computer next time hehe [04:23] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:24] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Hoogin: don't buy anything new when you do. [04:24] I recommend that. I bought a 9800GT. Got the driver from slackbuilds.org, it came with a neat config app, and everything just worked, including dual-screen configuration with one monitor at 1920x1200 and the other 1280x1024 [04:24] Aldaron, r300 has been dead for me with ati binary since October, r350 is now dead with this months binary from ATI. I've read in the forums at phoronix that they're supposed to be fixed next month. But I dont know who the person is that said it, and if they are credible or not. [04:24] I have a 9800GT I haven't tried on Linux yet. [04:25] (well, some apps like ones using Ogre3D still didn't work properly, before I added some metamodes to xorg.conf) [04:25] im using a radeon X1950 [04:26] Old_Fogie: I sure hope so. Would be nice to use my old laptop with 3d acceleration again [04:26] arktvrvs (i=stygian@adsl-66-142-212-112.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] agreed [04:27] the xorg log only give this warning (WW) RADEONHD: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found [04:27] jarda-wien (n=jarda-wi@171-97.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:28] (**) RADEONHD(0): Option "DRI" "true" [04:28] (**) RADEONHD(0): Selected XAA 2D acceleration. <-- whats this? 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[05:02] if one forgot the password for the wireless connection can xsupplicant be used to retrieve? or other measures should be taken? [05:02] Nick change: mohaa -> _mohaa [05:02] Action: The-Croupier makes clear that the connection is his! [05:09] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: "leaving" [05:09] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [05:09] The-Croupier: WEP, WPA? [05:10] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:10] kalasmannen (n=kalasman@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:11] kalasmannen (n=kalasman@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:13] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:17] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:18] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:18] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left ##slackware. [05:18] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [05:19] leizar (n=raziel@90.151.230.201) joined ##slackware. [05:19] chopp, sorry i was reading about it.. wpa2 psk ccmp [05:21] leizar (n=raziel@90.151.230.201) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] i was messing with the router at home the other day, forgot the routers password,(admin admin ofc doesnt work),customer service in greece is shit,(and my memory so bad that i forgot them) :( now trying to get in my own network (how bad is that) [05:21] this should get you started. (package available at SBo) http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=tutorial [05:22] got that already [05:22] then use it.;) [05:22] and wireshark..eapol.des.key packets [05:23] aircrack would do dictionary attacks but doesnt really get anything since i get 0handshake in there after using it [05:23] wpa2 won't be easy work to crack [05:23] downloaded most of the dictionaries from whatever sites i could think of [05:23] and reading how to integrate jtr with wireshark...for brute force..but havent managed yet [05:23] injection ftw. [05:24] not proper conversation for here though. [05:24] The-Croupier, does router have a hard reset switch? Usually hidden ina pin hole [05:24] looking for a hex-ascii editor with encryption options (if that is the way) even if i feel like im in the wrong direction [05:24] dive, tried that already. :( [05:25] chopp, pm? could you help pointing out something to read? [05:25] sure [05:25] can you pm me "hi" as i am in a webirc? [05:27] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:28] Anyone got any experience with OpenIPMI && Slackware? [05:31] feature (n=ae@82.103.141.216) left irc: "simon says: rehashing" [05:32] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:34] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.12.77) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:35] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Connection timed out [05:36] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [05:37] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:41] charle97_ (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [05:45] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [05:47] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[05:58] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [05:59] duryodhan, i try to be a good slack user..thats why i get in messes like that [06:00] _mohaa (n=moha@ANantes-157-1-100-98.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [06:02] The-Croupier, any luck yet then? [06:02] BOFH__ (n=berserk@87.18.86.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] dive, education takes time [06:03] quick education needs too many tabs and reading very very quickly [06:04] youtube videos,encryption,wpa2,wireless technology manuals and KEEPING AN EYE on the boss passing by...its making me dizy [06:07] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [06:07] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [06:09] joachim (n=j@193.108.254.83) joined ##slackware. [06:10] joachim (n=j@193.108.254.83) left ##slackware. [06:10] The-Croupier: then don't watch porn and see some real videos on bypassing WPA protection [06:10] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:10] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:11] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) got netsplit. [06:11] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk) got netsplit. [06:11] The-Croupier1 (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:11] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:11] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Nick change: The-Croupier1 -> The-Croupier [06:11] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) returned to ##slackware. [06:11] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [06:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*i=47e84e*@*.com/x-31ba060fa57e533b expired. [06:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*i=47e84e*@*.com/x-31ba060fa57e533b' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:20] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [06:23] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:23] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [06:24] i think i found a solution for my problem, but i have to rebuild the kernel and i have no clue how it is done [06:24] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:24] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:24] Hoogin, try alienbobs wiki [06:24] ok, ill do that [06:25] http://wiki.alienbase.nl/doku.php --search for build kernel [06:25] thanks [06:26] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [06:27] np [06:30] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:31] i read somewhere there is a way to integrate/mix together ethereal and jtr...is that true? if so..could anyone point to a how-to? google gives me one or the other..or how great tools they are...i know them already :( [06:32] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-105863a52aa3974d) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [06:33] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:34] why don't you ask the folks who wrote about the integration? [06:35] ananke, cos i dont remember the site i read it, and cos it could be a little different with slackware... [06:35] just wondering if anyone ever tried it [06:36] The-Croupier: s/ethereal/wireshark/ [06:36] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [06:36] Zordrak,yes that is true [06:37] evanton (i=nobody@gateway/tor/x-126d02472095f975) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE92A98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:39] I'm thinking to get myself a new dual-core computer. My main concern is to be able to run a couple of virtual machines for testing purposes, because now just one virtual machine eats all CPU. Would it be better to choose an intel or amd processor? [06:39] evanton, what do you use for virtualization ? [06:39] evanton: wtf? [06:40] Camarade_Tux: virtualbox [06:40] Zordrak: excuse me? [06:40] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:42] evanton, are you sure you installed the additions ? virtualbox is usually very snappy [06:42] Camarade_Tux: mu current CPU is an Athlon XP 1800+ [06:43] I certainly need a hardware upgrade :) [06:44] evanton, an idle XP uses less than 5% of my cpu (Core2, 1,66GHz), I highly doubt there is a 10 times perf ratio between our cpus... [06:44] there must be a problem elsewhere [06:44] My problem now is choosing between an intel and amd CPU, which one would you suggest? [06:46] the intel are more powerful, the amd cost less [06:46] if you're not in a terrible hurry, you might wait a bit because newer intels use DDR3 which is currently expensive [06:47] charle97_ (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:48] well, I'd like to spend some money before the crisis hits my country [06:48] go intel+nvidia then :D [06:49] by nvidia you mean the mobo chipset? [06:49] evanton: what are you going to use it for? [06:49] spook: running multiple instances of virtualbox is my main concern as stated above [06:49] evanton: get a 65nm phenom, quad core. [06:49] and of course I'm going to run Slackware on it [06:49] that way you dont need a new motherboard [06:50] they have virtual machine extensions. [06:50] spook, he'll need a new mobo, even with AMD [06:50] I want to invest into a whole computer, not just the CPU [06:50] Camarade_Tux: no, he wont. [06:50] spook, an AthlonXP vs a Phenom ? really ? [06:50] so I'm going to buy mobo/ram anyway [06:51] oh wait. [06:51] Camarade_Tux: soz, totally misread that [06:51] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:51] spook, hehe ;) [06:51] my current mobo has a nvidia nforce2 chipset :) [06:51] evanton: get ddr2. intel/amd is not so much important. [06:51] it's 5.5 years old [06:51] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:51] I just checked and ddr3 is about twice as expensive as ddr2 btw [06:52] evanton: if you find a good deal take it. shop for motherboard first, then choose cpu [06:52] Camarade_Tux: with about 5% benefit. [06:53] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:53] spook: I've got a friend who's dealing with hardware so it will be a good deal in exchange of much beer. He'll deal with hardware specs himself but he doesn't use Linux [06:53] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:54] Thurin1 (n=subtox@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [06:54] so my goal is to provide some general pointers about Linux running well on that hardware and my particular tasks (multiple virtualbox instances) [06:54] If anyone has experience with creating LiveCD's with Debian could you please answer this question... --- How does one make a Live-DVD? Do I simply make the iso with the typical live-cd scripts and burn the slightly larger iso to DVD? Or do I need a whole other group of scripts? [06:54] I know I will get a nvidia video, I just have to decide about the CPU [06:54] Debian/Slackware any distro really [06:55] Thurin1, no difference [06:55] evanton: shop for either phenom or newer, or core 2 duo of newer. both of those criteria guarentee you'll get vm extensions [06:55] evanton: that will make your vms snappier [06:56] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl217-150.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:56] Camarade_Tux, :) [06:56] roger, thanks for the hints [06:56] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE92A98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] That's what I thought because it was impossible to find any 'live dvd scripts' [06:58] Thurin1: read the mkiso docs [06:58] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [06:58] Srbo (n=Srbo@88.128.35.98) joined ##slackware. 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[07:09] well, you can actually chose between a few kernels (huge(smp), generic(smp)) but that's it [07:09] kinda silly i have to recomplie the whole kernel since i have to activate Message Signaled Interrupts so i can use the ATI drivers [07:11] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:14] # CONFIG_PCI_MSI is not set .. think this one is it [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-46.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] you think or you know? [07:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-70-150.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] think, hehe [07:18] PCI_MSI is not enabled that was fglrx is complaining about [07:20] there is no ignorance, there is knowledge [07:20] of course that only really applies if you are a jedi. [07:21] hehe, well i used the make menuconfig and i found it there :) [07:21] just to make sure hehe [07:28] now I'm building it, hopefully it will work [07:29] CrankyChipmonk (n=joseph@69.177.189.60) left irc: "Leaving" [07:30] error :( yay [07:30] fs/affs/file.c: In function 'affs_write_begin_ofs': [07:30] fs/affs/file.c:646: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault [07:30] masterx831 (n=masterx8@97.104.48.72) left irc: "Leaving" [07:31] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [07:34] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [07:34] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [07:37] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [07:44] Giorno a tutti [07:49] Englisch bitte [07:49] English sweet. German bitte. [07:49] :) [07:49] FriedBob (i=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. 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[08:02] [cipher] (n=guru@41.252.43.156) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:03] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:04] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Do people here use anything in particular for a calandar app? [08:06] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:10] hey gang :-) [08:11] hey macavity! [08:11] macavity: Oi oi! [08:11] are you here at 1234567890? [08:11] when is that exactly Nordic time? [08:11] Who likes chili? [08:11] mooglenorph, I use bash organiser aka bo [08:11] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts [08:11] still testing though [08:12] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.167.20) joined ##slackware. [08:12] macavity: http://coolepochcountdown.com/ [08:12] ThunderWolf (n=ThunderW@bl9-255-108.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:12] aftnoon macavity [08:12] hi, ive just configured my network with netconfig in Slackware 12, do i have to restart services? [08:12] dive: I've been kinda looking for a console based PIM to sync my Centro to [08:13] hmm don't have one of those [08:13] mooglenorph: the app 'when' is simple and works good, its a perl script using txt file [08:13] kjell: and UTC is GMT+7? [08:13] ThunderWolf: rc.inet1 [08:13] dooh [08:13] UTC = GMT [08:13] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-1d08943b2d72dd1b) joined ##slackware. [08:13] afaik [08:13] You know the chili is gonna be good when your eyes water from browning the meat. [08:13] Zordrak: roger :P [08:13] Zordrak im kind of noob, whats the command please :P [08:13] macavity: Will be 00.30 in my time I think [08:14] ThunderWolf: it is: [08:14] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-47.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:14] ThunderWolf: links http://slackbook.org [08:14] kjell: yes [08:14] kjell: maybe.. perhaps i'm sleeping at that time [08:14] ThunderWolf, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart/start/stop [08:14] macavity: Can't sleep at that time. This is bigger than the 2000-switch :D [08:15] not really [08:15] its just a number that looks cool in decimal [08:15] Okay then. I will code instead :'< [08:16] but being a binary kind of person events like 10101010101010101010101010101010 i *way* cooler :P [08:16] s/i/is/ [08:17] Would be cool. [08:17] unfortunately it has happened i think [08:17] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "The 7 Deadly Sins: Dentes brancos, hálito puro.   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [08:18] macavity: I had the most awful dream last night - I thought I saw a 2. [08:18] lol [08:18] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:18] trinary nightmares [08:18] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:19] ok.. i am *stupid* today [08:19] naturally the above happens very short of the turnaround [08:19] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.188) joined ##slackware. [08:19] it will happen at 2863311530 [08:20] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [08:20] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:20] Happy friday the 13th everyone go see a movie lol [08:20] 01010101010101010101010101010101 will happen at 1431655765 [08:21] now that is within a forseeable furture :-D [08:21] dive Zordrak thanks guys [08:21] :D [08:21] np [08:21] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:21] I mean go see Jason hack and slash some people at crystal lake and make your wife or mistress scream a little [08:22] seen the new one? [08:22] think the new one is gona be lame to be honest [08:22] probably [08:22] No I was planing to go this afternoon if I get a chance but I dont thinkg it could be any of the classics [08:23] But it cant be any worst then Freddy vs Jason or Jason X [08:23] i'll save my 8bucks=) [08:23] that is why I go in the afternoon it only 4 bucks out the window [08:24] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] criminy, who fed the cats crack this morning=\ [08:24] ooops [08:24] i thought it was tunar fish... [08:24] cipher (n=guru@41.252.43.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:24] ha damn yous [08:24] you mean that white crystaline tuna? [08:24] ya [08:25] "skipjack" [08:25] easy mistake [08:25] nono "skipcrack" [08:25] Mine dont need crack they have there own built in crack [08:25] WHen I was sick, I saw a lot of -1s, but then I realized someone had infected me with MS and I got rid of the infection with a format. SInce then my booleans have only 0 and 1 now rather than -1, 0 or 1 [08:26] woke up thought the today was D day false alarm this damn baby [08:26] he can't make up his mind [08:26] give him a shove [08:26] assignment of the day: rub the back side of a piece of duct tape in tunar fish, place it on the floor with the sticky side up, and stare intensively at it untill the cat gets interested.... [08:27] or try some of FriedBob's chilli, that'll shift anything ;P [08:27] Yesterday my two crack head cats were in my office chasing each other one make a sharp left turn at the rack mounts, and the other tried and fail, so he face planted right into the apc ups that attached to the bottom of the rack [08:28] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:29] macavity: that would only work for one of my cat, as one will love any kind of human food while the other wont even touch soft cat food it has to be crunchy hard cat food or she wont eat [08:31] Ah time to get to work... Copland looks around takes 4 steps to his desk and says there now I am at work [08:31] hah [08:32] i haven't been able to find something i can do at home round here [08:32] Well sometimes I hate being at work as it means being at home [08:33] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) joined ##slackware. [08:33] a little amusement: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [08:33] despite i actually really like ftp (because everything can handle it), the above paper is 100% correct [08:33] FTP *IS* a horrid horrid standard [08:33] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:33] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-147-47.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [08:34] I sleep with some 10 different servers at night. which I am find with but the what ever girl friend at the moement usually makes me sleep in the other room as no nookie infront of the servers [08:34] i tried reading the RFC on how to impliment a fuse module for ftp... that is absolutely the most frustrating thing i ever stopped doing right away [08:35] no nookie in front of the servers...that's no way to live [08:35] Well I know. But she says she not going to get into one bed to have nookie just to get up and go to the other room to sleep [08:36] She has not learned to tone out the server noise [08:36] i can't sleep with out the noises [08:36] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:36] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Yeah I dont sleep well with out the noises. either [08:37] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [08:37] I woken up in the middle of the night to a failing server just a disruptance in the harmonist nature of fan and hd noise [08:37] the weird thing is when the cats stare at you and growl when the momment is goin down [08:38] lol [08:38] im not beeing able to connect to internet on my nieuw Slackware box, i have a home gateway and the same pc on windows connects well. ive configured in netconfig as root. What can i try more? [08:40] wireless? [08:40] wired [08:40] No I got road trips covered I invented my noise maker 8 , 8 -80mm thermaltake fans superglued in a 4x2 configuration strapped that ties into 2 12volt batteries [08:40] dang [08:40] so when I am not at home plug her in and let me make some fan noise [08:41] i have a motherboard with 2 ethernet ports, coulb it somewhere around there? [08:41] ThunderWolf, does ifconfig show your interfaces? [08:41] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [08:42] omg... did anyone see Joaquin Phoenix on David Letterman? [08:42] no [08:42] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59) joined ##slackware. [08:42] something good happen [08:43] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:43] no... check it out on youtube [08:43] this dude is toast [08:43] he is clearly on drugs, or has a brain tumor [08:43] dive it shows me only one, eth0 and lo [08:44] off topic question. i have about a year old hp laptop. the battery is pretty much shot with out the power adapter. but eh when the latpop is propped up closed but upright like say i leaned it against the leg of the coffee table it shuts off. i've never seen that happen before. i kept thinking my laptop wasn't plugged in it's so odd. also kfc is sponsoring black history month on their website. stereotype much ? wheres the wate [08:44] rmelon and grape drink [08:44] ThunderWolf, what does dhpcd eth0 do? [08:44] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl217-150.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: "off" [08:45] dive lot of text [08:45] lol [08:45] ouch [08:45] but what do i need dhcpd for? [08:46] i have a static ip address [08:46] that should have been dhcpcd [08:46] ah sorry dint see that [08:46] no porb man [08:46] nix_chix0r: short in the ac adapter plug? [08:47] Guest40708 (n=root@82.158.101.115.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:47] hi! [08:47] copland-leopard, i thought about that myself but, the battery usually lasts a good half hour . it shuts off with in a few minutes i just noticed it last night because i leaned it against the table [08:47] I can't get amsn to run here [08:48] ahhhh its a Guest running as root! [08:48] Guest40708: and? [08:48] lol [08:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:48] Guest40708: amsn isn't in the default installation of Slackware.. where'd you get the package/scripts from for it? [08:48] it could be the battery though [08:48] maybe it's not the most current package. Can somebody tell me where to fidn a current one that works? [08:48] Guest40708, in my bollocks. you should use pidgin [08:48] mbhayes: from linuxpackages.net [08:49] heh [08:49] get rid of that package [08:49] does pidgin have video for msn and offline messages? [08:49] slackbuilds.org [08:49] grab the build from there [08:49] kopete does not have offline messages [08:49] Guest40708: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/amsn/ [08:49] ok [08:49] Guest40708: and dont *ever* use linuxpackages dot net if you know what is good for you [08:49] thank you mbhayes and macavity [08:49] Guest40708: .. and dont IRC as root [08:50] ok, ok [08:50] Guest40708: slackbuilds.org/howto for info on how to actually use a slackbuild to creat a real package [08:50] should ban root*!*@* [08:50] mac n cheese for breakfast? i think that is a yes [08:50] thank you [08:50] root used to be banned once I seem to recall [08:50] nix_chix0r: no, you can not have me with cheese for breakfast.. [08:50] nix_chix0r: I had some wierd stuff go on with a laptop just going off with a good batteries iit ended up being a short in the power board that was part of the physical laptop. O I would apply some light pressure to the bottom of the laptop close to where the ac plug comes in and seeif you cant repicate it with out using the coffee table [08:51] you helped me a lot [08:51] :-) [08:51] have a nice day [08:51] Guest40708 (n=root@82.158.101.115.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:51] dive: it does however, make it a little hard for people to come in here and ask "how do i make user accounts", to which we can answer "see slackbook.org" [08:51] yeah I guess that's why it was stopped [08:52] macavity: should've clued them in to sbopkg [08:52] mac-, why not the mac n cheese? [08:52] Note to everyone every slackware laptop should have a magsafe ac plug it is the greatest thing since sliced bread or mac n cheese [08:52] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [08:52] mbhayes: i only tell people about sbopkg after i know that they have actually build a .SlackBuild package by hand [08:52] nix_chix0r: ? [08:52] Action: mbhayes shrugs [08:52] mbhayes: you know, just to unconf00se them about what is really going on [08:53] the point behind sbopkg is to make that unnecessary ;) [08:53] errr macavity *\ [08:53] :) [08:53] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [08:53] nix_chix0r: squished any bugs lately? hahaha [08:53] spook, wtf>< [08:53] not you too [08:54] nix_chix0r: because i am not good with cheese... however, when i meddle in the affairs of dragons i am crunchy and good with ketchup :P [08:54] anyways.. see you all later [08:54] i have some one that asks me that all the time. also some one with a peeing fetish on yahoo=\ he wont stop [08:54] nix_chix0r: joking. i believe this is called sharing an in-joke [08:56] charle97_ (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:56] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [08:56] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-1d08943b2d72dd1b) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [08:56] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:57] nix_chix0r: peeing fetish? [08:57] nix_chix0r: hey [08:57] nix_chix0r: been sleeping well? 5 weeks to go! [08:58] pupit, some random dude messaged me one day. he seemed alright, but then he started to ask me about if i ever just had to pee so bad i'd just let it go no matter where i was. i blocked him, and he came back with a different nick and is like oh so yer pregnant now i bet you have to pee all the time.......don't you just want to hold it in and pee your bed:| [08:58] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:58] sup straterra [08:59] nix_chix0r: jesus! [08:59] this one goes on my blog. [08:59] :) [08:59] o.O [08:59] i should find the logs haha [08:59] dont say logs..a scat lover might find you next [08:59] oh ew [09:00] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:00] might make an exception for an azn buisnessman [09:01] nix_chix0r: only 5 weeks right? [09:01] yes 5more weeks to go [09:01] i swear he was trying to come out this morning though woke upa t 6am [09:01] :( [09:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:02] when you go into labor, make sure to curse at the father and blame him [09:03] haaa he might ask for an epi too:)) [09:03] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [09:04] make sure to break his hand while you're holding it. his epi wont help with that [09:04] Thurin1 (n=subtox@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [09:05] noob question, how do i log out of root [09:05] ? [09:05] logout [09:05] ThunderWolf: ctrl + d [09:05] Thanks [09:05] :D [09:06] ctrl + d = logout [09:06] exit [09:06] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] epi..my gf won't be getting an epi [09:06] straterra: knuckle sandwich? [09:06] eh? [09:06] straterra, why the hell not [09:07] she crazy? [09:07] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:07] i dont want her to [09:07] she's askin for it then hope she has a 13lb baby:P [09:07] no breathing exercise will stop that pain [09:07] its dangerous [09:07] dangerous, in what aspect [09:08] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:08] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:08] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] It drugs the baby and it has the chance to cause paralysis [09:09] oh geez [09:09] i bet you dont like vaccines either straterra ? [09:09] 5 weeks, that will be just in time for bbandbj day :) [09:09] spook: Uh..vaccines are fine [09:09] what chance in % ? [09:10] i'll be selfish then and take that risk [09:10] vaccines are to stop you from DYING..thats the difference in my book [09:10] ... [09:11] I have a friend that doesn't believe in giving their kids vaccines. [09:11] if it was dangerous for a baby they wouldn't have been doing it for over 40 years [09:11] agentc0re: they are irresponsible. [09:11] There's a lot to read up on about both sides of the equation. [09:11] Hepatitis B vaccine... [09:11] agentc0re: any risk of side effects are smaller than the risk of not getting them vaccinated [09:12] spook: No, their not. To have to make the decision requires a lot of research on why it's not a good thing to do. I wouldn't say that's being irresponsible at all. [09:12] spook: I haven't done the homework myself, so I can't say one way or the other. [09:12] imagine if every parent stopped vaccinating their children and sent them to school [09:13] polio would come back [09:13] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) joined ##slackware. [09:13] lol [09:13] nix_chix0r: 1940's diseases would come back [09:13] polio, exactly [09:13] :) [09:13] what's that????? you have scurvy??? [09:14] eat a lemon plz [09:15] tiagopasq (n=tiago@201-42-35-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:15] gona be building me a myth tv box [09:16] they have some good mobo/cpu combos [09:16] mythtv is awesome [09:16] i am just finishing up the final touches on my mythtv box [09:17] 1tb hd is so unbelievably cheap right now [09:17] Action: spook bought 4 1TB hds [09:17] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:17] raid10 f2 ftw. [09:17] payday is today [09:17] i'm tempted [09:17] nix_chix0r: samsung 1TB are cheap and very good. [09:17] how much are they running spook ? [09:17] nix_chix0r: http://spooksoftware.com/blockspeed/ checkout the raw blockspeeds on the samsung [09:18] they are cheaper than seagate or [09:18] WD 1tb. [09:18] well i'd hope it's cheaper than a seagate, and i stopped buyin western digistal [09:19] i had so many fail hard drives [09:19] i stopped buying seagate after all that firmware shit. [09:19] spook: nix_chix0r, foldingstock: I'm not trying to start a war, but just something i found. http://www.alternative-doctor.com/vaccination/16reasons.htm Personally I'll probably do vaccinations... but i also wont even think about kids till my mid 30's (About 5 or so more years.). [09:19] get (n=getf@ensim2.fmsweb.de) joined ##slackware. [09:19] agentc0re: recent court case ruled on vaccines. [09:20] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:21] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:21] If it's not federal, it doesn't matter. [09:21] mdadm --create -l raid10 -p f(Y/2) -n Y is very very awesome. [09:22] TwinReverb (i=1000@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:23] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:24] I have a Asus EN 9600GT, should i install any drivers from nvidia? [09:26] depends [09:26] on what= [09:26] ? [09:26] on what you're doing with the machine [09:26] its my primary workstation [09:27] playing games? doing 3d graphics work? [09:27] image editing [09:27] sometimes [09:27] dang Old_Fogie isn't around [09:28] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] yeah couldnt hurt. the only thing is, the nvidia driver has a max colour depth of 24bit. [09:28] but anyway, it must turn my graphics better,true? [09:28] ThunderWolf: nothing you'd notice [09:28] fuck [09:28] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:28] spook then maybe ill leave it like it is [09:28] using driver "nv" ? [09:29] ? dont know what ur talking about [09:29] grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:30] sorry. capital D [09:31] I forgot which part of Buffalo Old_Fogie lives but hopefully it's not Clarence right now [09:32] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:32] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:32] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [09:32] thankfully it didn't hit his house [09:33] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "reboot" [09:33] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:33] 'MANY' BUFFALO RESIDENTS AMONG THOSE KILLED IN CRASH http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html [09:34] ThunderWolf, never use "nv", never [09:34] wretched (n=wretched@72-170.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] why not [09:35] awh [09:35] min praktikplats är ju epic [09:35] unless you want to count with your own eyes the number of redraws your application requires [09:35] (yeah, you can *count* that *yourself* in some situations) [09:35] gnubien: Yes. Reading that on-line. Terrible news:( [09:35] Camarade_Tux: nv beats vesa [09:36] Camarade_Tux: for image editing, it will do 32bit colour which i think is more important to him [09:36] grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf - i did this and it just shows some text [09:36] amro (n=amro@207.192.73.20) joined ##slackware. [09:36] ThunderWolf: try again with capital D [09:37] spook, I'm sure it beats the linux console set to a 16/10 resolution too :p [09:37] kitche: I'm sure he's ok. ##slackware residents don't commute, drive, go out, or have any kind of social life. He's fine [09:37] ah, now i get a list of drivers [09:37] there is no nv anywhere [09:38] tiagopasq (n=tiago@201-42-35-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [09:38] vesa? [09:39] is there a way to get lilo to boot in 1360x768? [09:39] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] Kaapa: unless a plane falls out of the sky on you ;/ [09:39] hahahahaha [09:39] wretched: hahahaha [09:39] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.126) joined ##slackware. [09:40] gnubien: true. Appart from caffeine and too much porn, indeed [09:40] wretched, lilo or the linux console ? [09:40] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:41] I hate having a cold min the cough up flem stage of it now [09:41] wown new slashdot setup bites [09:41] tanamo (n=tanamo@116.50.152.20) joined ##slackware. [09:41] kitche: try a spicy vindaloo [09:41] spook i did it with a capital, i get a list of drivers. No nv anywhere. "kbd" maybe? [09:42] ThunderWolf: DO YOU SEE VESA? [09:42] yep [09:42] :P [09:42] ThunderWolf: THEN YOU ARE USING THE VESA DISPLAY DRIVER [09:42] hello guys, how can i force configure to use my other compiler? [09:43] I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO ONLY HEAR HALF OF WHAT I AM SAYING [09:43] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [09:43] spook ok, dont get angry on me. im just a noob. [09:43] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [09:43] but im trying my best [09:43] wretched, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers [09:43] :D [09:43] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn27.78-99-123.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] ok i managed to build a new kernel i've added it to the grub loader, but it does not work :( [09:43] (it's maybe not available by default though) [09:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-416216.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] it says its too large to load into memory [09:44] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn122.78-99-162.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [09:44] ThunderWolf: increase the hsync freq to match your screen, in the MONITOR section. then add a higher resolution if you want it to the resolution area [09:44] http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html [09:44] whoops [09:44] right clicked on accident [09:44] ThunderWolf: also increase the default COLOR DEPTH to 32 since you are probally wanting that too [09:45] 32bit and 24bit is not much of a difference besides and overlay [09:45] kitche: http://www.herbportal.com/herbal-medicine-articles/herbs-for-cold.htm [09:45] kitche: he is wanting to do some image editing. [09:45] still not much of a difference really [09:47] spook where is that monitor secion u spoke about? [09:48] ThunderWolf: dont bother. [09:48] lol ok [09:50] anyone got a modified kernel with PCI_MSI enabled? [09:51] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-416216.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:51] wretched (n=wretched@72-170.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:51] ah orange/black tea [09:52] Hoogin: going on about this again? [09:52] God I hate sourceforge! [09:53] Alan_Hicks: it has its ups and downs [09:53] Simple wgets should work damnit. [09:54] and they do? [09:54] they do if you use the mirrors :) [09:54] No, often they fail completely because sourceforge never responds. [09:55] supergear (n=supergea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] cannot run the ATI drivers without PCI_MSI [09:56] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Hoogin: so compile a kernel with it. [09:57] i did [09:57] sidmario (n=sidmario@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: ".." [09:57] so why are you complaining? [09:57] well it won't load [09:57] grub tells me there is not enough memory to load [09:58] i used the source that came with slack and i only enabled PCI_MSI [09:58] Hoogin: can you cat /etc/*sio* for me ? [09:58] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [09:58] ok [09:58] Slackware 12.2.0 [09:59] zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config [09:59] use that config file as a starting point [10:02] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:02] ok [10:03] [cipher] (n=guru@41.252.43.156) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:10] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:10] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [10:11] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:11] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[10:28] sh autogen* && sh configure && make && su -c "make install" [10:28] their answer is always going to be "install the new pidgin" [10:28] I'm not on pure slackware, sorry. I use easys but it says it is pure slackware with some more gui. As a noob i need gui. i have gcc but running . running ./configure it said that the c compiler cannot create executables [10:28] just like they'll say "works fine for me on " [10:29] Guest40708, you don't need gui, you just want gui. [10:29] Guest40708: you could just modify the slackbuild and let it compile for you [10:29] am spoiled by windows. so without gui i get nothing to wokr [10:29] straterra. how? [10:29] Guest40708: easys != Slackware. Ask the support channel, mailing list, forum, whatever for your distribution, but don't bother us. We don't know what easys might have broken. [10:30] slackware is easy once you grow your skils [10:30] slackware to me is easier than mandriva [10:30] especially with wicd [10:33] oh dear [10:33] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:33] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:35] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:35] gabriel__ sh: autigen*: File or directory not found [10:37] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:38] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.151.126) left irc: Connection timed out [10:45] tresloukadu (n=carlos@200.146.126.145) joined ##slackware. [10:45] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] eddief2 (n=eddie@68.161.193.53) joined ##slackware. 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[10:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.197) left irc: [10:59] kama_ (n=kama@host181-110-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:00] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:01] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.25) joined ##slackware. [11:02] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Just curious, I couldn't figure out how to untar multiple files, and it turns out you need to do a for loop in bash [11:03] Camarade_Tux, maybe, maybe not, but you can always hook up a power to molex [11:03] which is actually really cool and has motivated me to grab a book on shell scripting. [11:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:04] but why is it that when you to something like 'tar -xvvf *.tar' it says that 'blah_blah_blah.tar not found in archive.'? [11:05] because it's not proper :) for i in *.tar; do tar xvf $i; done [11:06] right, thats what I did and it worked. but I'm just wondering what tar is doing. it's certainly trying to do what I tell it to, but it looks like it is maybe trying to find tars within a tar. yeah? [11:06] TwinReverb, ok, thanks, I guess I'll go for 3,5", they're 40% cheaper and certainly a lot faster and I don't think I'll take it with me that often [11:06] you can probably get an enclosure with a power adapter port [11:06] or just get a @#$ external USB drive [11:07] the lacie desktop usb 2.0 500gb drive (see linuxquestions.org/hcl for my review) works great and is probably even less expensive now than it was when i first got it [11:07] and it's got an external power adapter which is a benefit if you are one of those people that prefers to use theirs as a backup device and often leaves it at home [11:07] (like me) [11:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:08] I'll take it already USB2 : it's not more expensive and it shouldn't overheat that way [11:09] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) joined ##slackware. [11:09] USB 2.0 isn't fast if you want "fast as my normal hard drive" but it's decent [11:10] you can't expect to do blazing fast transfers of 250GB or more [11:10] I have a laptop anyway [11:10] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.126) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] well double check the speed versus price for firewire versus usb [11:10] you may be surprised [11:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] do you have esata ? [11:10] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [11:10] oh yeah, had forgotten about firewire and since I'll need external power supply anyway (I only have 4-pins firewire) [11:11] no esata ='( [11:11] mr_S (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:11] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left ##slackware. [11:11] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:11] firewire is more expensive though [11:12] any one using wicd with wpa-psk successfully ? [11:12] mr_S, i'm using wicd but i've never tried it with wpa-psk [11:12] mr_S: the people in #wicd would probally be the most successful [11:12] i've used wpa_supplicant successfully with wpa-psk before [11:13] mr_S: one of the developers is currently active. [11:13] thanks i will check [11:13] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [11:13] I can get a 500Go USB2 drive for 60¬ but a firewire one would cost me 100-110¬ =/ [11:14] usb 2.0 is what, 100mbit? firewire400 is... well [11:14] i can run a benchmark of my stuff ... hold on [11:15] external usb 2.0 lacie hard drive is: [11:15] Timing cached reads: 1484 MB in 2.00 seconds = 742.57 MB/sec [11:15] Timing buffered disk reads: 84 MB in 3.01 seconds = 27.89 MB/sec [11:15] TwinReverb: speaking of benchmarks, check out http://spooksoftware.com/blockspeed/ raw blockspeed on different raid configs [11:15] mr_S (n=sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:15] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:16] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] onboard sata 5400rpm drive: [11:16] Timing cached reads: 1346 MB in 2.00 seconds = 672.55 MB/sec [11:16] Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.03 seconds = 57.37 MB/sec [11:16] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:16] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:16] I know firewire is muuuuuch better but right now it's also more expensive =/ [11:16] Action: TwinReverb is going to upgrade to a 7200 rpm sata drive as soon as he possibly can [11:16] well don't believe the "firewire is better" until you do a real linux benchmark [11:17] and even then, benchmarks != reality [11:17] TwinReverb: see that link, i strongly recommend the samsung 1TB disks. [11:17] SSD ftw [11:17] yuck [11:17] ssd is the future :) [11:17] http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ [11:17] says those who would make money if ssd were the future [11:18] TwinReverb: firewire will most likely differ greatly on the firewire card/chipset. [11:18] TwinReverb, benchmarks ? I'd be happy to see usb2 faster than firewire [11:18] never believe someone who is paid to say things :D [11:18] 2 sec for boot up a OS like windows or linux... [11:18] no, says "less moving parts = less failure" :) [11:18] firewire is mainly dead [11:19] spook, well that's because there's firewire 400, 800, etc [11:19] since apple dropped providing FW on its stuff, I think it's also dying [11:19] less moving parts sometimes means less failure, but it's a generalization [11:19] TwinReverb: no i mean in the way that firewire and usb are fundamentally different [11:19] since when did apple drop FW? [11:19] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:19] it's not a generalization. it's what I [mechanical engineer] make a living :) [11:20] haha you can add 'search.pl?query=some+search+string' to the URL and it shows that page and then sends them to the google search. [11:20] my wife's new macbook pro is a firewire [11:20] er has [11:20] my old macbook did not [11:20] and it's a generalization. true, more moving parts = more CHANCE for failure, but the end result (actual real world tests) is where you find the actual real world failure rate [11:21] you're talking to Mr Obvious here, i say all kinds of stuff like that [11:21] i'm just noting that it's not always true [11:21] nfriedli (n=nfriedli@115-123.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch) joined ##slackware. [11:21] firewire = 40% more expensive =/ [11:21] TwinReverb: like couple of months ago they stopped putting firewire on certain products but after a while they are gonna drop it completely [11:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.16.202) joined ##slackware. [11:21] example: mazda RX-7 old-generation rotary engine had less moving parts, and at the time less failure rate compared to V6/V8 [11:21] its one less port to have to have in the casing [11:21] one less heat source [11:21] then the new RX-8 had more problems than the modern V6/V8's [11:22] They might have readded it htough since many people complained [11:22] kitche, got a news blurb? [11:22] which problems does the rx-8 have? the engine is very similar [11:22] not sure [11:22] as I suspected [11:23] that came from reading magazines and talking to a friend of mine who actually drag raced (but he's a mustang fanatic so we can't always trust that either) [11:23] TwinReverb: www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9117339 [11:23] kitche, thanks [11:23] MacBook Pro's still have the firewire it seems [11:23] but the MacBooks do not [11:24] so really unless any of us have real-world statistics from the manufacturer (impossible to obtain lol) or a review site like pcmag or something, all we have is generalizations [11:24] best car is the volts romeo miagima [11:24] Zordrak: ping [11:24] do you guys think a dark green pants light blue shirt looks weird sicne that's what I m wearing to work today lol [11:24] kitche: probably. [11:24] :P [11:24] now customer reviews from tigerdirect and other places can help but in the end those can also be skewed by pissed off people [11:24] Guest40708 (n=root@82.158.101.115.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:25] kitche: my gf says, light bottom dark top is wrong, so i think you're fine [11:25] well it's like a blackish color I was gonna wear black pants but man the hair and stuff that shows up on them [11:25] oh well [11:26] whats the time in EST? [11:26] 11:26 [11:26] we had solid state drives on our panasonic toughbooks at work, but they did that mainly for the fall-proofing not the speed or reliability per se [11:26] anyways I don't think it will matter since all I do is sit in my cubicle for 8 hours doing nothing but waiting for calls [11:26] no doubt they are fast [11:27] Action: Camarade_Tux afk [11:27] actually, no, but that could be the interface or even the OS (Windows XP sucks) [11:27] my old laptop was faster (but that was slackware linux highly tweaked) [11:27] kitche: thanks [11:27] windows xp is nice [11:28] windows XP is the most bearable MS os atm [11:28] yep, works extremely well for corporate environments [11:29] WDS is nice [11:29] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.181.58.36) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.167.20) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:30] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [11:30] I downloaded and installed RHEL5 in a vm today [11:30] Windows x64 is better! i got it one year without format and only got 3-4 times blue screen... :D [11:30] gonna learn that and add another skill to cv [11:30] dive: your slackware license has been revoked [11:31] xp can be a beast [11:31] spook, only the eval version though [11:31] and i can't stand it at work any more lol [11:31] we have dual core athlon 64 machines (new dells) that run slow as ass [11:31] tntslack: alot of stuff in xp 64/2003 that is missing. like essential fixes for using tv tuners [11:31] and we're MILITARY so these guys should have a clue. i guess not. [11:31] i have 0 issues with xp. never fails, and runs very quick [11:31] I just noticed the other day that dos box in XP seems to have auto-completion [11:31] the most i do is like run word, excell, outlook, and IE [11:32] TwinReverb: lots of things can cause it to run like a dog [11:32] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.16.202) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:32] the most I run on it right now is cygwin and wordviewer [11:32] i know but to me it's unacceptable [11:32] spook don't use tv tuner... so for now i am happy... [11:32] especially with the iron they have running it (dual athlon 64 with like 2-4GB ram) [11:32] tntslack: you do know that xp64 is essentially rebadged 2003 server? [11:32] my core 2 duo 2gb ram 1.66ghz x2 machine on slackware runs hella fast [11:32] then it's probably an install issue, not windows [11:32] TwinReverb: no more slamd64? :) [11:33] last night i had 32 flac2mp3.sh sessions going simultaneously and to surf the web i just reniced them to 19, then back to 0 when done [11:33] TwinReverb: lots of things can cause it to run like a dog [11:33] the machine was still very usable [11:33] spook hmm not sure [11:33] tntslack: the servicepack for xp64 and 2003 is the same file. [11:33] there arent seperate service packs. [11:34] most hotfixes are the same too. [11:34] the same file. [11:34] some parts are i think... [11:34] nfriedli (n=nfriedli@115-123.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch) left irc: "Quitte" [11:34] tntslack: i dont think, i KNOW. [11:34] 2003 just has heavy iron things added to it really [11:34] One thing I've never setup are the Windows server editions - what are the main differences? [11:34] dive: there is no commandline way to configure things [11:35] but yes xp64 is just 2003 with some different little things [11:35] spiffytech_ (n=brian@wod28982RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:35] everything is GUI and very cludgy [11:35] so explain to me how my wimpy core 2 duo 1.66ghz 2gb ram with 32 flac | lame - sessions runs faster than win xp? :P [11:35] theres about 3 different places to configure everything and each has different subsets of the total options [11:36] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] TwinReverb: lots of things can cause it to run like a dog [11:36] ic [11:36] any more windows makes me angry and that's a new thing. usually it just frustrated me. now it actually makes me angry. it's amazing. [11:36] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] they were talking at work about making me the WM. i'd love that. i'd schedule defrags and other such good things to keep them running better. [11:37] at work they have to find 40 computers out of thin air for a new client [11:37] anyways, can someone please help me out? anyone with a 7200rpm sata drive run hdparm -tT on it to tell me how fast it is? [11:37] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [11:37] TwinReverb: lots of things need to be done to keep an xp machine running nice. [11:37] spook, too much upkeep for a POS OS [11:37] TwinReverb: as i mentioned about 2 hours ago: http://spooksoftware.com/blockspeed/ [11:38] no i want hdparm. sorry. i didn't feel like deciphering those [11:38] sorry, i guess i'm tired [11:38] TwinReverb: when you use group policies etc and start off with a good image its pretty easy to maintain [11:38] TwinReverb: the left is megabyte/s the bottom is the block position. [11:38] That's the real timesaver - get a good image [11:38] the yellow line is the total average, the white lines it the moving average [11:39] TwinReverb: essentially, samsung 1tb 7200rpm is about 80-100MB/s read, about 10mb faster for write [11:40] is 7200 rpm really worth it? (that's the bottom line for me) [11:40] if a machine starts running like a dog you reimage it, if that doesnt fix it, its a hardware issue [11:40] or user issue [11:40] TwinReverb: i dont think they make anything less than 7200rpm 1tb drives [11:40] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [11:41] no, laptop, 7200 rpm, size doesn't matter, i'm asking the difference in rpm itself [11:41] probally? [11:41] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:41] wasted money on a laptop imo [11:41] thats in a fileserver, 3.5" [11:41] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:42] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Action: bhodgins waves at everyone [11:42] o/ [11:42] TwinReverb, what are you using at the moment? [11:42] TwinReverb i made that change and has different, on booting and surfing in the files... [11:43] I just have to say I'm quite impressed with how things seem to be handled and working since I started using slackware when 10.2 was the latest. [11:43] hold on [11:43] had 100gb of 5400rpm and now have 200gb with 7200rpm [11:43] I wondering how much it affects battery [11:43] bhodgins: okay that was many years ago [11:43] wasnt that long ago [11:43] WD Scorpio 5400rpm sata 250gb 8mb cache [11:44] I think I'd rather have more battery at the expense of slower disk r/w's [11:44] you can get a bigger battery [11:44] if it makes any difference that is [11:44] was a week or maybe two after I started using linux. Fedora didn't last long. Trying many different distros, I've always gone back to slack as the very best;) [11:44] bhodgins: at least 5 years [11:45] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [11:45] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:45] I dont remember, it was after I was out of the hospital [11:45] i think linux mdadm raid10's far layout should become a standard raid level [11:45] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:46] bhodgins: i was still in highschool so it was at least 4 years [11:46] I was too [11:46] :) [11:46] yeah makes sense [11:46] we've since moved to 2.6 [11:46] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [11:46] I was a sophmore I think and I went to high school for 5 years [11:46] besides the higher RPM drives still have power saving modes or smart modes or whatever it's called iirc [11:46] much less more ram and laptop-mode=1 ought to help [11:47] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.19.118) joined ##slackware. [11:47] spiffytech (n=brian@wod28982RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:47] Timing buffered disk reads: 240 MB in 3.01 seconds = 79.77 MB/sec [11:47] Timing cached reads: 1908 MB in 2.00 seconds = 954.74 MB/sec [11:48] Timing cached reads: 2088 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1045.02 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 284 MB in 3.01 seconds = 94.41 MB/sec [11:48] that's almost double what i have [11:48] lol, I dont even remember how I really lived through slackware, I knew nothing about linux commands, I knew how to use msdos, I didnt have internet and my laptop couldnt run X, it was too slow, and kde took overnight to load, fluxbox just barely ran. [11:48] WD and Samsung 1TB respectively [11:49] bash was so much different :( [11:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:51] I never gave up and I love linux :-) [11:51] anyone know when slackware will come with the stable version of kde 4.2 by default ??? [11:51] is there a handy timeline somewhere with the release dates of slack versions? I'm guessing the changelog.. [11:52] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59) left irc: "Leaving" [11:53] tresloukadu: look at -current [11:53] fwiw kde 4.2 makes mandriva 2009.0 almost unusable when i tried it out [11:53] dive: check a mirror and look at datestamps of ANNOUNCE.TXT [11:54] if you like going totally gtk/gnome/xfce it works for you but for someone like me, it does not [11:54] slack is not mandriva [11:54] and i'm VERY glad about that :) [11:54] spook, thanks [11:54] granted mandriva is great but still [11:55] mandriva is anything but great [11:55] no it's great especially for newbies, just not for someone like us [11:55] I hated mandrake and I barely will hate mandriva if I decided to use that [11:56] mandrake was the first linux I tried [11:56] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:56] TwinReverb: theres the door, use it [11:56] RH9 was my first, it was good, so was mandriva 9, slackware 9, etc [11:56] mandriva is hella convenient. i had the "ok, now what do i do with my life?" thought ater getting settled, but configuration is also a pain in the rear some times [11:56] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] TwinReverb: i didnt think it was possible, but i hate you even more now :) [11:57] i dunno, i can't use any distro for long before i want to go back to slackware [11:58] i know mandriva enough to help out two friends who now use it, but oh well [11:58] Action: Motoko-chan is contemplating moving back to Windows on the laptop [11:58] the thing i couldn't stand is how stuck in one release it is, much less how bloated it can get [11:58] slackware is so elegant it's not even funny. makes mandriva look ugly in that regard. [11:58] Stuck in one release? [11:59] how you really can't seem to upgrade (for example) firefox without too much of an ass pain [11:59] Ah. [11:59] but with slackware (since it's a binary repackage) you can just "steal" it from -current [11:59] upgradepkg && smile [11:59] or use the /patches/ [11:59] Well, for the highly-integrated desktop distros, that's the way it is. [11:59] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] yes but at times patches is an older version than -current [11:59] true [11:59] Same for Ubuntu. [11:59] patches is for security updates [11:59] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:00] i know that [12:00] not much reason to update firefox [12:00] But yeah, I'm having issues with vid-out to an external source [12:00] you're telling me things that i already know and am assuming don't need to be brought into the discussion [12:00] Action: TwinReverb shrugs "i just like running the most current version of whatever i can" [12:00] TwinReverb: then you would make a good ubuntu user [12:00] TwinReverb, you could run Mandriva cooker, but that can result in breakage. [12:00] from slack 9.1 until like 11 i was always using -current (but i can't remember {adhd} so please forgive me if i am not remembering correctly) [12:01] oh hell no, not ubuntu. at that point i would be seriously considering either buying a mac or using windows [12:01] slackware-current rarely breaks. mandriva cooker is best assumed to BE broken [12:01] Action: Motoko-chan doesn't care much for *ubuntu [12:01] Had too many issues with it. [12:02] my friend who is in IT (but new to linux) had issues with ubuntu [12:02] i've never bothered touching it [12:02] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:02] Ubuntu just plain has issues. [12:02] debian's political bull and then on top of that, their odd hacks and breakage. granted, debian does contribute to upstream, so i can't hate it [12:02] thats just plain FUD [12:02] www.distrowatch.com [12:02] I'm going to be trying out a few distros in vm's to gain some knowledge hopefully [12:02] Iceweasel... [12:02] even they say the same thing [12:03] That's all I have to say about Debian [12:03] (knowing that their site would become a breeding ground for trolling and flame wars) [12:03] TwinReverb: distrowatch touted bluewhite64 as being new and inivative [12:03] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [12:03] i would take ANYTHING THEY SAY WITH A GRAIN OF SALT [12:03] i've ran debian before [12:03] debian is stable. [12:03] I have Debian running on my AlphaServer. [12:03] ubuntu is a good distro, its like a mac, it just works. but it doesnt do alot out of the box [12:03] CentOS on a few rented dedicated servers. [12:04] Mandriva on my desktop boxes [12:04] i wasn't referring to ancient, i mean stable. i was referring to the in between. what was it at the time, code name Etch? Sid? i forget now [12:04] the gparted live cd runs debian doesn;t it? [12:04] Slackware on the servers I have physical access to. [12:04] dive, yes, it's based on Debian [12:04] yes and so is knoppix (i.e. debian) but loosely [12:04] TwinReverb: debian is general is a good distro [12:04] Knoppix is Ubuntu-based now. [12:04] knoppix devs told me themselves that knoppix is a mix of stable, sid, testing, etc [12:04] ubuntu is not a server distro [12:04] i have no problem with debian, i have a problem with ubuntu [12:05] spook, I know several people who think it is. [12:05] Srbo (n=Srbo@88.128.35.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [12:05] I personally think anything that insists on X being installed isn't a proper server [12:06] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [12:06] (Which does include Solaris and AIX - they install X by default) [12:06] theres "ubuntu server" which doesnt insist on X, last time i used it [12:06] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] and RH [12:06] (I'm not sure there is an option there) [12:06] dive, RHEL doesn't insist. [12:06] isn't "ubuntu" the nickname of the gazelle that ends up being eaten by the lion? :D [12:06] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [12:06] at least RH install gives an option to use text mode install and it didnt boot to X by default [12:06] yeah you can run RH without X (server edition) and mandriva also (text based config tools) but alas i wouldn't bother at that point [12:06] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [12:07] you can configure mandriva totally from the shell if you need to, and RH as well [12:07] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [12:07] Mandriva isn't really server-oriented. [12:07] Although it does work semi-okay. [12:07] I used to do that before I discovered Slackware. [12:07] I installed mandriva on a separate partition and it killed my slack [12:07] well you can try to pick more "server-friendly" options (and don't they have a specific server edition branch?) like SEL (i think) but why? [12:07] maybe my fault though [12:07] dive, odd. [12:07] It shouldn't. [12:08] PEBKAC? [12:08] well dual booting linux distros can be hairy if you don't configure them very well [12:08] and if you don't use the same boot loader especially (i.e. don't mix grub with lilo) [12:08] Yes, Mandriva has a server-oriented platform. [12:08] Or at least had. [12:08] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [12:10] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] TwinReverb: you can put shit loads of distros on the same machine [12:11] I'm doing it all in qemu now [12:11] qemu is awesome [12:11] not messing about with partitions for testing purposes [12:12] spook, i know, but what i was saying is that you need to be careful how you do it [12:12] TwinReverb: not really [12:12] no one is stopping anyone from putting, oh, say, 10 distros on one machine [12:12] you just got to be smart about it [12:12] not really [12:12] ok, "smarter than the average bear" [12:12] then again, most in here already are [12:12] you just need to know how to use lilo [12:13] -.- [12:13] TwinReverb, yeah it was some time ago but I seem to remember it detected my slack partition and so I assumed it knew what it was doing - and I think it did install grub over lilo [12:13] dude, i get the point. stop over-analyzing / misinterpreting what i say :P [12:13] and i'll stop mis-explaining :) [12:13] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:14] TwinReverb: no. i dont like you. :) [12:14] dive, at that point, what i would do is boot slackware installer, but then mount the partitions, change up slackware's fstab so the mandriva / is mounted to /mnt/mandriva, chroot to slackware's /, mount -a, re-run lilo. [12:14] spook, stop hating people you've never met in person :P [12:14] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:14] TwinReverb: i can very easily do that :) [12:14] i had slackware and slamd64 dual booting :) [12:14] you' [12:14] re just so hateable [12:14] TwinReverb, I would do that now but at the time I was too nub [12:15] or you're so good at finding reasons to hate [12:15] TwinReverb: whatever makes you sleep at night [12:15] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] my favorite thing to tell mandriva users is never assume it knows what it is doing. specify everything :) [12:15] right time to fly [12:15] spook, you and everyone else have nothing to do with sleeping at night. that's hormones and diet mainly :) [12:15] laters all [12:18] nooooo, my nearly-20yo computer died ! ='( [12:19] 1989 ... a 286? [12:19] Camarade_Tux: its okay, its gone to silicon heaven now [12:19] hahaha [12:19] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:20] paper problems? [12:20] use it! [12:20] TwinReverb, something like that, win3.x [12:20] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] where do i set the plugin directory for seamonkey? firefox laaaaags with flash [12:21] holdmypocket: read the documentation [12:22] holdmypocket, which graphic driver are you using ? [12:22] Camarade_Tux: hes using nv [12:22] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [12:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [12:23] then it's not firefox's fault :D [12:24] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Action: TwinReverb gets almost no lag in either [12:25] holdmypocket (n=choward@168-215-208-8.static.twtelecom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [12:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Client Quit [12:27] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-240-51.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [12:32] is because im using slackware 12.0 for more than a year ... and i wanna update it ... but im waiting the kde 4.2 to do it so i update everythin at the same time.... without do 2 times ¬¬ .... but ma sistar has mandriva 2009 in her laptop with kde 4.1 and works very good ...... i installed in her lap hehe.. but not in mine cauz i was a bit afraid to put smtg unstable :P ... thats because slack is the best for me .. i wont use mandriva ... [12:32] Nick change: hd -> HellDragon [12:33] tresloukadu: that made no sense. [12:33] tresloukadu: try -current [12:33] lol [12:33] tresloukadu, mandriva is not fun for kde 4.2 [12:33] really? i didnt see the mandriva with 4.2 just with 4.1 [12:33] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:33] whats -current? [12:34] and upgrading from 12.0 to -current would be a pain. i'd recommend a clean 12.2 install and then possibly either upgrade to -current using UPGRADE.TXT or maybe see if someone has a -current installer (granted you could always copy all the files somewhere etc but oh well) [12:35] uhm 12.0 - -current isn't supported and most likely leads to breakage. [12:35] OMG .. i have tons of programs here install everything again :'( [12:35] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] dont upgrade, install from scratch [12:35] tresloukadu, there are package repositories like rworkman and alienBOB's websites [12:35] but i doubt they build for -current [12:36] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:36] 12.2 pkgs will work on -current, for the most page [12:36] if not, then use the slackbuilds [12:36] Or use another distro [12:36] another distro never!! [12:36] [12:36] if I could read indonesian this would be great: http://slackware.linux.or.id/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_ke_KDE.4.2 [12:36] tresloukadu: Why not? [12:37] TwinReverb: dislike it, do you? [12:37] cauz slack is the more stable i know 4 years [12:37] Action: TwinReverb stabs spook [12:37] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-e1cc2d6c74e88c1a) left ##slackware. [12:37] need more corellian spiced rum, i do [12:37] Action: TwinReverb suspends to ram to go eat something [12:38] slack in veins [12:38] going from 12.2 to current shouldn't be a pain right? [12:38] nope. [12:38] i was a jedi, i'd want to be of the halcyon line [12:38] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.19.118) left irc: ":wq" [12:39] I think i will do that then. I downloaded all the kde 4.2 sources, but I don't want to go that route and I don't know how to make my own tgz so I'll just go to current. :D [12:39] spook, there is no such thing as a jedi. [12:39] wahcordian|Work: shut the fuck up. [12:39] lol [12:40] there is very little development (well public development) for -current at the moment. , so it's pretty close to 12.2 [12:40] and I think star wars sucks now... it used to be the awes, but the new stuff just doesn't do it for me. [12:40] yeah i installed in my slack enlightenment E17 and i had lots of problems ... [12:40] wahcordian|Work: two letters, EU. now shut up [12:40] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59) joined ##slackware. [12:41] spook, what does that even mean? [12:41] EU [12:41] ? [12:41] extended universe [12:41] O.õ [12:41] lol [12:41] hahaha [12:41] europe union ?? [12:41] thats what I was thinking. [12:41] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.9.59) left irc: Client Quit [12:41] spook, may the force be with you. [12:41] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:42] ... [12:42] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:43] the only disgusting pain in kde 4 is the botton pannel when you try to configure the icons..... very hard to align them ..... ¬¬'' [12:44] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [12:48] OT, but what's a good online lookup for people (trying to find someone's cell phone number). Someone posted a really good link here a week or two ago, and I was wondering if anyone knew of any good (free) resources [12:50] did u try google.com :D [12:51] tresloukadu: I've tried, but there are a million of them, and it'd take hours to weed out the good ones [12:52] UnionPivo (n=union@clj8-137.dial-up.arnes.si) joined ##slackware. [12:55] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.44.210) joined ##slackware. [12:55] TwinReverb (i=1000@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:56] sometimes depending on ther person .. i just type the numer of cellphone in google .. and i get lots of information .... [13:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [13:02] slack in veins [13:02] priceless [13:03] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-240-51.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] A-life (n=usr@216.159.13.110) joined ##slackware. [13:05] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:05] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] question: If i have a script that needs to be run as root in the background, and it runs fine starting from a normal terminal, where would i put it to start during bootup right? [13:06] you could add it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [13:06] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [13:07] if it doesn't have a daemon mode (forks) then you would want to add an & after calling the script to make it go into the background [13:07] MoZes: Not if it's being called at start up. afaik [13:07] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.151.126) joined ##slackware. [13:08] hrm. lemme try that, it seems like that wasn't working. [13:08] agentc0reWORK: if it requires a controlling terminal then you need a & [13:08] otherwise rc.local will not finish [13:09] you just try these things and find them out for yourself :) [13:09] better than just taking someone's word for it. [13:09] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] A-life: take a look at rc.M and see how all those scripts start up. You'll wanna do something similar. [13:09] right, ive been trying those, it's definitly starting [13:10] just not working right when its on [13:10] then i can start it once the box is turned on and boom works as intended [13:10] A-life: how do you invoke the script? [13:10] simply ./script.sh [13:11] or /path/to [13:11] etc [13:11] with an & to run in the bg [13:11] i was wondering if there was maybe a specific way to go about things if i needed it to run as root [13:12] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.151.126) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:12] can someone look at this web site? http://www.last.fm/home [13:12] and tell me whether the Nokia advert looks awful? [13:12] like a 16 colour picture or something? I am looking at it with the firefox in slackware 12.2 [13:12] it looks ok on the same firefox version in windows [13:13] A-life: running it from rc.local will run as root [13:13] just installed bootsplash from linuxpackages.net, just hope it doesnt screw the kernel [13:13] A-life: does it not have any debugging output? [13:13] A-life: if it's a script you can also add -x to the interpreter, if it's bash -- so the first line is [13:13] #!/bin/bash -x [13:13] so you can see where it's failing. then in your rc.local put [13:14] /path/to/script.sh > /tmp/log 2>&1 [13:14] MoZes: its a little script i've written, and yes, i can see its running, and its appearing to be functioning correctly [13:14] but when i check the testfile it should be making its obviously failed [13:15] anyhew, ill try rc.local again [13:15] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:15] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:16] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:17] Nick change: RaeGrepus -> superGear [13:17] mikeym (n=mmk@96.53.128.204) joined ##slackware. [13:21] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl232-224.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:24] rc.local is not doin it for me [13:24] hrm [13:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn122.78-99-162.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] mbhayes_ (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [13:30] mbhayes (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:31] Nick change: mbhayes_ -> mbhayes [13:31] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn45.78-98-247.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:33] FriedBob (i=friedbob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:33] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:33] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. 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Im pretty sure Ive flunked through economics [13:50] and Ive had holydays from monday till today ^-^ [13:50] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [13:50] how about your exams? [13:51] thrice` (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [13:53] some ok, some bad, I don't like the european way to pass exams [13:54] which is having to validate each topic on its own and always, even if you have 9.99 out of 20 [13:55] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: "Saindo" [13:55] I dont know anybody who likes it.I dont know any othr way tho [13:55] TwinReverb, I'm actually going to buy an internal HD and a case because external HDs are less performant and that way I'll maybe get firewire too ;) [13:55] Ive heard you had terrible weather? [13:56] slackytude, average everything, that's the way we used to do it [13:56] weather was alright actually, I was told there should have been a storm, I didn't see it [13:57] heh, funny. supposedly there was a storm over GB and france going our way, didnt happen either. there was some wind and snow and grey skies in general but itsok [13:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:59] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [14:00] at one time i strictly used C and now I am addicted to quick and dirty scripting languages [14:01] gotta use C# come monday [14:01] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Greetings [14:02] good evening :) [14:03] ocaml, ocaml, ocaml ! \o/ [14:03] fanboy ;) [14:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [14:03] i'm a big fan of TCL but I don't use it at work [14:04] work is mainly PHP and javascript [14:04] slackytude :p [14:05] I had the pleasure to do a lot of stuff in python at work [14:05] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) joined ##slackware. [14:06] that was nice. kinda sucked that some had to work nicely with VB, tho [14:07] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [14:07] i write in bash alot for work ^^ [14:07] currently am right now [14:08] sounds good. sysadmin? [14:11] slackytude: hello. [14:11] greetings stybla [14:11] slackytude: so, how did you do during exams? [14:11] stybla, I flunked economics [14:12] all other is well, I think [14:12] slackytude: aye, working in one of my labs that runs a custom slack install :) [14:12] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] A-life, ah, great stuff. even slack :) what does it do? [14:12] stybla, how about your exams? [14:12] slackytude: i see. economics is chapter on its own. can you repeat the test some time later? [14:13] slackytude: i've passed all what was given to me. i've expected better results, but in binary world - 0 or 1. [14:13] slackytude: i work for a k-12 district, its a lab to do the basic student things, all based on google apps, :) typing reaserch mail powerpoint, that sort of thing [14:13] stybla, yes, it was my first try. so, I still have two more. But I really, really dont want too :( As of now, Im still hoping for divine intervention [14:14] slackytude: ah, there you go. you'll learn more next time and pass - no big deal. [14:14] A-life, sounds like rewarding work. [14:15] slackytude: aye, untill you have to put up with teachers ;) [14:15] stybla, yeah, I hope there will be another teach, tho. The stuff in economics had more pages than the other stuff combined. and he was always late. even to the damn exam he came 15 minutes late, cos he had to copy stuff. [14:16] A-life, eh. so, the students are alrite? Im not sure, what age group is k-12 ? [14:17] slackytude: k-12 is beggining school untill the end of highschool [14:17] slackytude: man - haha. [14:18] slackytude: this lab is used by the 8th grade primarily, they aren't so bad, the teachers are the bad part :P [14:19] however i cannot get my script to run right from boot for the life of me -_- [14:20] Action: slackytude tries to remeber how bad he was n 8th grade [14:21] Im sure I was well-behaved, of course [14:21] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) joined ##slackware. [14:21] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Haha i know i wasn't [14:21] stybla, take a look http://www.fbi.h-da.de/organisation/personen/schulte-schueppen-andreas.html [14:21] evening all [14:21] A-life, ;) [14:21] I believe they thought i was going to set off a bomb in 8th grade [14:21] heh [14:22] some were wondering : PATA HDs seem to go up to 500GB [14:22] good evening dive, how are you? [14:22] slackytude: he looks 'normal'. [14:22] fine, and you? [14:22] alright, battling an ever expanding script [14:22] :) [14:22] yep that's the way [14:23] dirty scripting doesn't solve everything ;) [14:23] Action: slackytude shrugs [14:23] it's rather clean, i'm meticulous about error logs and comments, just not cooperating today :P [14:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:25] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn45.78-98-247.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [14:30] can anyone think of any reason a script run from rc.local would appear startedin the background after bootup but just not do anything? [14:30] bad script? [14:30] nopers [14:30] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:30] it keeps runing in bg and does nothing? [14:30] works flawlessly run from a booted computer [14:30] slackytude: yes [14:31] does it wait for input from stdin? :P [14:31] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [14:31] nopers [14:36] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89-180-89-251.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:36] :) [14:36] im just confused why it wont even write to my logs [14:36] i even made it so local users could write to logs if that was the problem [14:37] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.58.36) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:37] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:37] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl232-224.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [14:37] A-life: pastebin the script? [14:38] lackS (n=hochst@dslb-084-063-059-068.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] shore 1 sec BP [14:38] Good evening everybody [14:39] josemanuel (n=josemanu@86.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:39] 'lo. [14:39] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:40] yo BP{k} [14:40] eh its not quite pasting right at the moment, on a bunch of different machines :P [14:40] the script works however, is the odd part [14:41] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) joined ##slackware. [14:41] ls [14:41] this is not a terminal. [14:41] heh [14:41] . .. [14:41] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [14:42] :{ [14:43] slackytude: good evening :) [14:43] BP{k}, how ya doin? [14:47] Puzzle time! [14:47] eddief2 (n=eddie@68.161.193.53) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] What would cause .Xauthority to change to root:root after suspend, resume and then opening and closing wicd-client? [14:48] slackytude: not bad :) [14:49] the change to root:root, of course, prevents any applications from opening windows. it makes it tough for me to do... things [14:50] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@208.233.36.250) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:51] xsamurai (n=fox@125.161.172.172) left ##slackware. [14:51] Dadsy` (n=Dad`@61.4.95-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] BP{k}, rite [14:54] slackytude: waiting for kethry to cook more chginese :D [14:55] ive never had chginese food [14:55] BP{k}, sounds like an event well worth waiting for [14:55] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [14:55] s/chginese/chinese/ [14:55] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.50.240) joined ##slackware. [14:55] but then again.. i havent been to chgina, so that might explain it :P [14:55] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:56] ax00008 (n=rafael@189-47-248-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:56] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-89-251.net.novis.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:56] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:58] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:58] Action: BP{k} stabs macavity with a slide rule :P [14:59] i'm having nothing but mayhem and chaos problem with madwifi and ath5k [14:59] i posted this in #madwifi already: latency issues with ath5k as well as madwifi with certain chipsets? I have a 168c:0013 (AR5001X+) and it will associate fine to the AP but latency jumps all over, anywhere from 20 full seconds to 1ms [14:59] Action: slackytude waves at nullboy [14:59] nullboy, sounds like fun [14:59] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.50.240) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:59] 20 secs is a bad roundtrip time [14:59] it's pissing me off [15:00] yeah no shit [15:00] try using ssh with a 20 second ping [15:00] Thats like...10 hop satellite [15:00] it's bad [15:00] and i've tried my own kernels, the stock kernels, different madwifi versions, and different ath5k versions...all the same [15:01] faulty hardware? [15:01] well, ssh with lag is ok, type and hit enter and wait for it :D Its a 300 baud simulator! [15:01] i thought that too...buuut [15:01] uva (i=bono@118-160-161-82.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] both my cards are abg cards and both do the same thing in different systems [15:01] hmm [15:01] i'm setting up a second AP to test with now [15:01] I blame the common demonator [15:01] YOU [15:02] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i know man. i blamed myself first too but i've changed and tested so many software and hardware variables [15:03] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-75.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.24.40) joined ##slackware. [15:04] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] the only thing i have left to change is the AP and i'm setting up a second one right now [15:04] does slackware also install dev files for the libraries on the install dvd? [15:05] slackware does not destroy software by splitting it up into dev and user packages [15:05] amro, slackware does not.. damn [15:05] tresloukadu (n=carlos@200.146.126.145) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:06] nullboy: oi oi oi [15:06] :> [15:06] yo man! [15:06] good to know... I'm going to be installing it on an offline computer. any tips for that? [15:06] amro: do a full install and you'll be fine [15:06] you can leave out kdei [15:06] unless you're a terrorist [15:06] amro, dont put coffee over it [15:06] LOL [15:06] lol [15:07] s/put/puour [15:07] payday! woo [15:07] gonna be a good weekend =] [15:07] hell yeah [15:07] Gonna get some [15:07] bono (i=bono@118-160-168-85.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:07] no =( [15:07] she's going home for the weekend. [15:08] that's what he meant! you're gunna get some! [15:08] lol [15:08] Not you..I am [15:08] damn [15:08] haha [15:08] Right after I remove "Antivirus 360" and go home [15:08] Nick change: spiffytech_ -> spiffytech [15:09] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Success [15:09] ax00008 (n=rafael@189-47-248-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:12] Dadsy` (n=Dad`@61.4.95-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:13] oh geez [15:13] AV360 ftl [15:13] i had to deal with that BS at a site....it infected every system [15:13] High_Priest (n=Mean@cable-94-189-150-234.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [15:13] local non-admin policy ftw :) [15:14] Makes stuff like this easy to take off [15:14] yeah [15:14] they did have that setup [15:14] didn't* [15:14] that is really the best defense for any of this type of crap [15:15] The people in Fort Worth love to download stupid shit [15:15] gee who woulda thought...users with admin rights can break things [15:16] for slackbuilds that don't mention dependencies, am I supposed to check elsewhere for dependencies or that means there aren't any? [15:16] heh, pc's at database lab were infected by conflicker [15:17] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [15:17] amro: if deps aren't listed you don't need them [15:17] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) left ##slackware. [15:17] amro, havent found a slackbuild with undocumented deps at sbo yet [15:17] all build time required deps are listed [15:18] thanks [15:18] A-life (n=usr@216.159.13.110) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." 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[15:22] amro, it just finishes early so it can take the rest of the day off [15:22] the slack way [15:23] ok this works - qemu running RHEL5 on desktop, ssh in from laptop and explore it all :) [15:23] no sense showing slides about what you do when you can be done in less than 30 minutes [15:23] from sofa [15:23] omfg [15:23] it's my GD access point [15:23] DoktoRN (n=mathias@h253n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [15:25] nullboy, heh [15:25] nullboy, two hours of your life well spent [15:26] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [15:28] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-234-25.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:29] zGhost (i=1000@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [15:29] DoktoRN (n=mathias@h253n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:30] There aren't any slackware packages or slackbuilds for KDE 4.2 for Slackware 12.1 are there? [15:31] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:31] zGhost, its in /testing afaiik [15:31] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [15:31] that MFing AP [15:31] I've wondered the same, but I haven't seen anything [15:31] slackytude: I checked in the official slackware directories, and I didn't see it [15:31] even in testing [15:31] because I've noticed that KDE 4 packages by rlworkman are down [15:31] zGhost: did he have them available for 12.1 also? [15:32] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-024-031-104-201.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] not sure [15:32] zGhost, ClaudioM sorry, didnt see you wanted it for 12.1 [15:32] I was talking about 12.2 [15:33] are there any good upgrade scripts, like that one phrag had years back? [15:33] for 12.1? I rather doubt it. [15:34] I wanted to upgrade 12.1 to 12.2, bad idea? [15:34] good diea [15:34] nope. thats doable [15:34] idea [15:34] so just download the packages and upgradepkg? [15:34] easy enough if you follow UPGRADE.TXT and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt [15:34] zGhost, read UPGRADE.TXT [15:35] forgot about that :D [15:35] thanks [15:35] zGhost, and QUESTION_AND_HINTS.TXT [15:35] duh [15:35] what dive said [15:35] I be over here in RHEL --> [15:36] s/L/LL/ :P [15:36] lol yeah [15:36] slackytude: well, I'll be upgrading hopefuly this weekend to 12.2, so for me it's a non-issue [15:37] but I was curious a few days ago [15:37] nullboy: http://bindshell.net/archive/security [15:37] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [15:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. 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[15:52] woooooo [15:53] so, any comment on my plan to buy that hard drive ? [15:53] no? [15:54] martian67 (i=user6962@about/linux/regular/martian67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] ='( [15:54] its just a harddrive [15:54] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] everybody needs them :P [15:55] Action: NyteOwl prefers Seagate [15:55] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Operation timed out [15:56] I'm mostly relying on a tom's hardware article [15:56] rraindown (n=rraindow@user-54445df5.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:57] or a Hitachi 1To 7200 RPM Deskstar S-ATA II 7K1000.B Hitachi 1To 7200 RPM Deskstar S-ATA II 7K1000.B [15:57] Tom's Hardware? [15:58] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-024-031-104-201.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:00] some time ago they had a terrible time but right now they seem reliable [16:00] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-60-31-232.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] deskstar 17 and 18 were utter crap [16:01] but those we labeled IBM [16:02] (same production line) [16:02] I've only heard good things about the recent Deskstars (recent = less than two years) [16:02] lackS (n=hochst@dslb-084-063-059-068.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware ("I entered /part! What do you think? ;)"). [16:02] oh, this is a number of years ago [16:03] martian67 (i=user5490@about/linux/regular/martian67) joined ##slackware. [16:03] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [16:03] i belive they were 40-60GB in size [16:03] yes, those were the first glass platter drives they made. they were VERY unreliable [16:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] and then there just a few of the 80GB lines that got called back [16:04] .. because of head crashes :-/ [16:04] yup [16:04] glass platter drives do generally not survive a head crash [16:05] whatever they did, they won't beat apple [16:05] even in the hands of expert disk forencics the chance of getting data off them is slim [16:05] I didn't know glass platters existed [16:05] I don't think anyone sues them anymore since that fiasco [16:05] apple knew (tens of ?) thousands of their drives in macbooks were completely defective and could crashed at any time (and did), yet they didn't do anything [16:05] s/sues/uses/ [16:06] pi31415: super crisp glass is was supposedly the seccond comming of the digital christ [16:06] it is strange that apple has a reputation for better-than-pc-quality-hardware [16:06] and in theory it all sounds very very good [16:06] pi31415: they do?!? [16:07] They do indeed. [16:07] They just ignore any reports of defective hardware, that's all. [16:07] odd... i though they had a reputation of delivering products with heat dispersal problems [16:07] with everyone i've talked to in person, but i've read enough slashdot to have my doubts [16:07] ie: the 6bit displays [16:07] oh yeah. the mountains of thermal paste [16:08] the "cooking" PSUs? [16:08] their rep for hardware quality goes back to the PPC days. Now they use reun of the mill hardware like everyone else :) [16:08] My flatmate's iPod is stuck in an eternal state of needing to be restored. Apple has to be aware of the problem, but they won't do a darn thing about it. [16:08] i bought myself an iaudio g3 after reading about it in redhat magazine [16:08] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] I have a 4G iPod Nano that has never been opened sitting in a drawer heh [16:09] runs of a single AA and plays OGG [16:09] there are three companies i dont give money: Mircrosoft, Apple and nVidia [16:09] I wanted one of the 40GB iRivers when they came out but couldn't affordone at the time and now they aren't available [16:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] OGG players are rare these dasy [16:10] days [16:11] the failing apple (seagate) hard drive I saw was part of a full set of HDs which 'suddenly stopped working', no symptom, nothing, they just stopped, it happened to my best friend when she turned her computer on, on a morning, no warning, just noise [16:11] then again they always were [16:11] Action: Camarade_Tux has an ogg player, it's 3 years old [16:11] i get the ogg files themselves from archive.org and a couple of netlabels like kahvi.org [16:12] Action: NyteOwl has never had a Seagate fail and only 1 Maxtor. We won't talk about the number of WD's I've cursed [16:12] RockBox will turn most players into OGG players. [16:12] only thing worse was MiniScribe [16:13] rockbox? neat! [16:14] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [16:15] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] jkwood: thx for the tip! [16:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:17] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:18] lol [16:18] NyteOwl: they all fail at the same rate [16:18] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] I haven't tried the newest release, but it's supposed to be awesome. [16:18] nullboy: over all the drives sold I have no doubt they probably do :) [16:19] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] My 1G Nano just doesn't quite have the space, nor I the OGG library, to justify using it on there. [16:19] nullbot: they also all fail at the same point in time - when it is least convenient :) [16:19] yeah man, i've seen literally thousands of disks from every manufacturer and they all fscking fail [16:20] spinning metal with a ceramic cube floating above it [16:20] RaNdY (n=randy@acl1-956bts.gw.smartbro.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] FAIL [16:21] I was one of those who was excited about MO technology but it never caught on in the mainstream market, though it is popualr in some specialized areas for spotrage [16:21] er storage [16:21] MO ? [16:21] Magneto-optical [16:21] a combination basically of ahrd drive anad cdrom [16:21] or CDRW [16:21] when was it ? [16:21] while ago [16:21] the 90's [16:22] the first MO drives showed up in the early 90's [16:22] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's" [16:22] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0D908.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] I remember my dad was excited about MO [16:22] it was invented iirc by Fujitsu [16:22] one business goup had a big MO library as part of a tiered storage architecture [16:22] hehe, I was probably 3 back then ;p [16:22] my impression was that it was slow and low capacity [16:22] it was compared to todays tech [16:22] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0D908.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Client Exiting"). [16:23] it had some advantages though. less degradtion of stored data [16:23] i guess it was government certified for records keeping [16:23] yes [16:23] Action: NyteOwl needs to redesign his website [16:23] the first time i held a CDROM i was astonnished.. that hing could hold 3x more than my HD! [16:23] what is the URL? [16:23] heh [16:24] http://www.milner.ca [16:24] my first hard drive as 80 megabytes [16:24] was [16:24] my first hd was a 540 [16:24] and http://www.ve1cbf.ca but that design I'm going to leave alone [16:24] i had a delux machine.. with 4MB ram! [16:25] Action: NyteOwl first HD was a whopping 5 MB and was huge and noisey :) [16:25] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-416216.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Connection timed out [16:25] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-234-25.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [16:27] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:27] my 386 started with 1mg ram and 2 floppies, and it ended with 4mb ram and an 80mb hd, with wfw 3.11 on it [16:27] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:33] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [16:33] wahcordian|Work, don't bother, slackytude is used to that ;) [16:33] :P [16:33] wahcordian|Work, huh? gxine? a media player? ludicrous [16:33] Camarade_Tux, aye -_- [16:34] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] I got rid of gxine. It's funny tho, everytime I do a fresh install of any distro I go to load an mpg or watch a dvd and the first app it tries to load it w/ is gxine. [16:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:34] mplayer ftw ! \o/ [16:34] Camarade_Tux, for sure! [16:34] 'mplayer -vo caca' of course -_- [16:34] hehe, he said "caca" [16:34] eh [16:35] and libtoilet too -_- [16:35] gxine takes over embedded browser videos too by default in many cases. (by default I mean fresh install). [16:35] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [16:36] maybe it's necessary somewhere for looking for bugs (I wouldn't know), but I'm just surprised that it would be a primary app for anything. [16:37] and there must be a lot of bugs, because the damn thing never fails to crash where other applications (that maybe ignore bugs??) wouldn't. [16:37] okay end of rant thanks for listening. ;) [16:38] Bonix (n=Bonix@212-lo1.rt2.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:38] may I start a rant against audacious now ? :D [16:38] haha [16:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nateres205.tel.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [16:40] actually I can't start one, I continuously ranted against it for the past few weeks :p [16:43] audacious would be nicer if there a way of making the window size somewhere between x1 and x2 [16:43] it's either too small or too big [16:46] guest_48399 (n=Olivier@85.218.55.30) joined ##slackware. [16:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:46] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] man, just when i start to feel like i know what i'm doing [16:47] it turns out that i don't :D [16:47] guest_48399 (n=Olivier@85.218.55.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:48] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:48] i think nt was better than wfw [16:49] Guest_4384938349 (n=Olivier@85.218.55.30) joined ##slackware. [16:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Dadsy` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] pi31415, sure it was better. it also came some years later [16:54] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-024-031-104-201.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Andymeows (n=andy@173.8.114.153) joined ##slackware. [16:58] is there a program that lists the cputime for a process that is displayed in top? [16:59] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:59] yeah, top :D [16:59] you mean if the kernel accumulates the totaly cpu time a process has had during its life? [16:59] Guest_4384938349 (n=Olivier@85.218.55.30) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:00] heh, I'm looking for a program that returns just the time for a bash script [17:00] and is there an app that can read this info? [17:00] yeah [17:00] no... because the kernel does not keep track of it [17:00] top :D [17:00] Andymeows: I'd start with date. [17:01] basically, I want to write a bash script that will kill processes that have been using too much CPU [17:01] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:01] you can only observe it "onwards" from when you start observing said process [17:01] uh, there is stuff like that in the kernel [17:01] maybe you want ulimit [17:01] Andymeows: look into "BSD process accounting" [17:01] but what does top give then ? [17:02] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-75.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [17:02] slackytude: to his direct question of "how much cpu time has a process had in its lifetime" i am fairly sure there is no answer [17:03] macavity, agreed. but if he wants to limit processes Id say ulimit is close to it [17:03] 595:13.67 firefox-bin [17:03] and ulimit can be built into the kernel? [17:03] 52:22.45 X [17:03] ulimit et al can limit or mandate how much of the given availability a process can use.. that is something rather different from counting clockticks of runtime [17:04] Andymeows, no, I meant the kernel will kill processes that use to much cpu resources [17:04] eventually [17:04] yeah, basically, I want to have a cron job that will restart processes that have used to much CPU, like in the event of the program getting out of control [17:04] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:05] Nick change: Dadsy` -> Dad` [17:05] pirving (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] ulimit -t [17:05] how much is "too much CPU"? [17:05] -t The maximum amount of cpu time in seconds. [17:05] which disks to I need to download all 6? to do install? isn't some of the sources on some disks? [17:05] first 2? [17:05] yea, first 2 [17:05] pirving, last 3 are sources, one and two is base system + X, cd 3 is kde [17:05] Unless you need internationalization [17:06] observe that ulimit is a shell builtin [17:06] slackytude: I thought only kdei was on disc 3? [17:06] so I need 3 [17:06] hmmmm [17:06] so just 2? [17:06] macavity: So it turns outmy intel problem was *only* for Konsole windows, nothing else seems affected by the issue. [17:06] I don't need kdi [17:06] Slackware 12.2 Install ISO disc 3 (KDE/KDEI) [17:06] slackytude: I stand corrected. [17:07] like a few minutes. I guess I should be more specific. I'm running openoffice as a headless server for batch file conversion, but every once and a while it locks up and won't convert. When it does this, I notice that the "Time" in top gets large pretty fast [17:07] eviljames: Konsole 3.x is semi-broken in many ways [17:07] so 3 [17:07] 1 2 and 3 [17:07] pirving: 1,2,3 indeed. [17:07] eviljames: try catting a binary file and see what happens [17:07] pirving: Or the dvd. [17:07] Andymeows, ulimit should do that, imho [17:07] so I want to watch for that time to go above a given limit, and restart openoffice [17:07] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] macavity: catting binary files usually results in madness, so I'll pass :) [17:08] eviljames: yes, its funny.. the .wav headers nearly always contain terminal control chars :P [17:08] slackytude: I'll research that then, thank you [17:08] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [17:09] Dadsy (n=Dad`@61.4.95-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:09] Andymeows, another option would be to use watch [17:09] eviljames: however, mp3 files are usually safe, and only sprew unreadable funnyness over the screen.. eventually dumping you back to the prompt [17:09] eviljames: observe that even if what you type at the keyboard is totally goofed up, you can always just blind-type "reset" :P [17:10] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-68.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] good night all [17:12] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [17:15] Andymeows (n=andy@173.8.114.153) left irc: "Leaving" [17:17] Today's a special day... or more properly a coincidental day... it's already _123456_3388 and counting... :) http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/02/unixs-magical-moment-as-foreto.html [17:17] Don't care [17:18] straterra: you're a buzz kill =P [17:18] You know who does care? ##1234567890 :D [17:18] eviljames: heading out to a crunk session soon [17:18] =] [17:19] heya ac [17:19] Nick change: acidkill_ -> acidkill [17:19] ezzii acidkill [17:19] =] [17:19] what if all the nuclear bombs in the world are controlled by unixes and they all launch when the clock gets to 1234567890 [17:19] that would suck [17:19] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left irc: "Leaving." [17:19] what if hyperboles would make you stupid? [17:19] straterra: well, it's definitely not important, so not caring is definitely justified. ;) [17:20] Pig_Pen: depends what drugs im on at the time...could make for a trippy apocolyptic death [17:20] watch the clock! were doomed, what is the unix time equivelant of december 21 2012 ? [17:20] Pig_Pen: In that case, 10 minutes to launch! [17:20] Action: eviljames shoots heroin [17:20] ahhhhh [17:21] Pig_Pen: What time on dec 21 2012? [17:21] Pig_Pen: 1356066000 [17:21] eviljames: share. [17:21] unix time code runs fine on 64bit [17:21] thats a lot of time to overflow [17:21] i once saw someone snort a line of salt, squirt lemon in their eye and do a shot of tequila.....the guy was in the navy so i figure that is the only reason for that to be done [17:22] slackytude: "Unix is a system of computers use to define time." -- npr.org [17:22] and im sure he didnt get laid that night [17:22] lol acidkill [17:22] yeah, the sun'll underflow before 64-bit time overflows [17:22] eviljames, heh, sounds right [17:22] acidkill: That's called an Ironman shot [17:22] acidkill: and it's the *only* way to drink tequila. [17:22] Otherwise, why bother, just shoot whiskey. [17:22] only way it doesnt taste like crap =) [17:22] ill stick with IPAs and scotch [17:22] eh [17:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Action: slackytude has fond memorys of tequila [17:23] pure ethanol is my favorite [17:23] Action: slakmagik has no memories of tequila [17:23] heh [17:23] slakmagik: Seconded, motion carries. [17:23] :) [17:23] Pig_Pen: closest ive been to that is 190 proof everclear back in NJ, cutting school and drinking everclear and OJ [17:23] yup, everclear is good [17:24] in fl you can only get 153proof =/ [17:24] Here's some fun info: take 1/4oz of wacky tobaccy and soak it in 8 fl.oz of ever clear (tucked in the corner of a dark cupboard) for 1 week [17:24] but we made some absinthe with it at USF....was interesting, mostly a bubbly drunk like champaigne [17:24] then strain the solids out of the juice [17:24] eviljames, deadly [17:24] use an eyedropper and put it on your tongue. [17:24] what about georga or alabama? smuggle some from across the state line acidkill [17:24] It's called green dragon, and it's AWESOME. [17:24] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [17:24] ya i probably could, but the drive to there is...6hrs probably for me [17:25] too long a drive, too bad you did not live closer to the state line, like Pensacola [17:25] maybe 4, not exactly sure. ive never driven it [17:26] slackytude: I take it you'v never flown a green dragon? :P [17:26] eviljames, correct. I also misread you [17:26] so, nvm [17:27] oh, heh [17:27] i would not make a special trip, but keep that in mind next time you have to drive up north [17:28] rraindown (n=rraindow@user-54445df5.lns3-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] you guys have to smuggle booze still? [17:28] I thought prohibition was over? [17:29] i always take up a case of beer whenever i go down to texas, oklahoma beer is only 3.2 point, texas beer is 6 point [17:29] 3.2 ?! [17:29] Action: eviljames canadian [17:29] There would be rioting in the streets if our beer was only 3% [17:30] yeah, beer in oklahoma sucks, the liquor stores are owned by the state gov, at least i can get good booze (even 190 proof everclear) [17:30] the 3.2 is by weight and 6 is by volume, there isn't a huge difference [17:30] i notice the difference when i drink it [17:30] Action: eviljames drinks his weight and cranks up the volume so it's all good. [17:30] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:31] well, its been a long day, i gotta take a hot shower to ease my aching bones [17:32] let me warn you, my computer clock is one hour fast :) [17:32] 3.2 =4, acording to wikipedia [17:33] everybody knows american beer is crap [17:33] well known fact [17:33] happy cool epoch time ! :D [17:33] depends what you are looking for [17:33] Action: dive is drinking 4.2 but no idea what it is [17:33] old speckled hen is nice [17:33] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:34] 7-12% here :) [17:34] that sounds like wine [17:34] why i like my ipa, 90min dogfish ftw =) [17:35] 9.n% [17:35] 60min is around 7, iirc [17:35] slackytude: That is indeed a well known fact. Belgian beer, otoh, is where it's at. [17:35] 120min dogfish 22% [17:35] just when you think you know about things you come across the wiki entry for exchange server.. [17:35] delicious [17:35] stitchman: but it isnt as good as the 90, least not in my oppinion [17:35] eviljames, aye, belgians make good beer [17:35] and the price, eeeek [17:36] i wish i had a case of the 120 minute [17:36] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:36] eviljames, but they don't make ales or even bitter in Belgium do they? [17:36] gnubien (n=e@230.255.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] i drank 60 adn 90 on tap and 120 from bottle one day...was nice day spring day in FL too [17:36] it's all that strange yellow stuff [17:36] sat outside on patio few friends at the bar...good stuff [17:36] Action: NyteOwl is rather partial to McEwans and Guinness [17:36] dive: Just pure deliciousness. That's all they produce. [17:37] NyteOwl: try Left Hand's milk stout [17:37] that is like...beer of gods [17:37] dive: but some darks as well, some Brunes which are a little sweeter [17:37] McEwans gives you wind I seem to recall - sweet smelling wind :) [17:37] I really hope wind is a euphasism for fart. [17:37] or gas. [17:37] somehow "milk" and "stout" don't belong in the same sentence :) [17:37] yes exactly [17:38] haha excellent. That's the first time I've heard someone use wind in that context. I will be adopting it. [17:38] really? [17:38] truly [17:38] never ehard the phrase "breaking wind"? [17:39] just don't fart in this # [17:39] I've heard breaking wind, but "give you wind" was a different incarnation. [17:39] i just finished from downloading 12.2, but in installing, i got some errors in binutils, cmake,....and the most of other devel pkgs [17:39] so i passed them [17:39] so, a beer that makes you fart is considered good? [17:39] and i finished the download [17:39] not really [17:39] but it can be amusing [17:39] so how can i get them using the pkg manager? [17:39] any idea? [17:40] slackytude: I think so. Haven't you been following humour these days? Crass is back. [17:40] and friend and I used to buy a crate of McEwans and sit in his shed drinking [17:40] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] eviljames, its is? thats so 80's [17:40] slackytude: there are too many people these days who don't remember the 80's.. [17:40] cipher, this is an upgrade from 12.1? [17:40] hello, anyone? [17:41] no, fresh install [17:41] from an dvd iso [17:41] cipher: look into slackpkg [17:41] alternatively, look into pkgtools [17:41] aha [17:41] thats strange, did you check md5 of the dvd image? [17:41] eviljames, true [17:41] and [17:41] i downloaded it using wget -c [17:41] beer gives many people gas [17:41] still should md5sum it [17:41] it tokes from me a while [17:42] gotta compile grub for xen [17:42] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-1" [17:42] ok, but what about pkgtools [17:42] ? [17:42] i was using yum, apt [17:42] cipher, you can set up slackpkg to download and install the missing packages [17:42] I find it funny xen works with pxeboot and grub, but not lilo? [17:42] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:42] but pkgtool sounds strange a little bit for me [17:42] nullboy1 (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Nick change: nullboy1 -> nullboy [17:43] cipher, its slackwares package manager. it consists of installpkg, removepkg and upgradepkg. there is also slackpkg and the unoffical but good sbopkg [17:43] cipher: pkgtools essentially just installs and uninstalls packages. doesn't check for dependencies, or conflicts or anything like that. [17:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.65.3) joined ##slackware. [17:44] cipher, man slackpkg [17:44] Nick change: bhodgins_ -> bhodgins [17:44] thanks alot [17:44] gm152 (n=gm@d121-145-96.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] if the packages you downloaded are corrupt in some way then try redownload and installpkg or use slackpkg [17:44] but it sounds to many options over here :_ [17:44] :)* [17:44] man, lot of snow tonite [17:44] which one i should use first? [17:45] slackytude: where? [17:45] aha, got it [17:45] cipher, I would check md5sum first [17:45] well slackpkg is easier i find [17:45] eviljames, germany [17:46] slackytude, but it won't help me, cuz i spend a lot of time trying to finished from downloading it [17:46] it's about 4,154 GB [17:46] so even if it's not match, i will use it :) [17:46] well, whatever [17:46] cipher, next time run md5sum before burning to disk [17:46] next time use a torrent [17:46] but thanks slackytude [17:46] no sweat [17:47] cipher: if it doesnt match..you'd be dumb to use it [17:47] I think my 10.1 discs were also corrupt and they still helped to get me a base system [17:47] torrent won't help too, cuz i'm using ADSL connection with monthly quota [17:47] :( [17:47] besides, who really needs emacs [17:47] i do [17:48] freak [17:48] :P [17:48] i'll take that as a compliment [17:48] heh [17:48] no you're normal [17:48] Action: NyteOwl just rememebred there is/was a Slackware64 :) [17:48] :) [17:48] NyteOwl, slamd64 you mean? [17:48] but us vim users prefer to be more freakish [17:49] nope, Slackware64 :) [17:49] btw, which mirrors i should uncomment it [17:49] eh [17:49] which one are the best? [17:49] Less than an hour to the Unix time of 1234567890 [17:49] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:49] slackytude: it was the now defunct Alpha port [17:49] cipher, find one near you geographically maybe [17:49] NyteOwl, ah, right [17:49] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] http://coolepochcountdown.com/ [17:49] k, thanks [17:49] cipher, location? [17:49] isnt that the time when they fire up the LHC, too? [17:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ok I'm bored with RHEL now - I found the chkconfig command is the one to know [17:51] and there I was chmod -x'ing stuff [17:51] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:52] damn right dive [17:52] chkconfig, and yum :) [17:53] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left ##slackware. [17:53] i don't think yum will work on eval version - perhaps I will try FC next [17:53] see the differences [17:53] another waste of time [17:53] haven't you wasted enough already? [17:53] lol [17:54] heh [17:54] you speak the truth - but I thought it would sound good on my CV [17:54] bah [17:55] dive, CentOS will be the best choice ;) [17:55] 5.2 is the latest [17:55] neat, and stable [17:55] good point [17:55] and free of charge [17:56] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:56] RHEL clone :) [17:56] yeah will look at that too [17:56] yes, basically RHEL without the paid support [17:56] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] anybody else here big on the 1234567890? [17:57] you are? [17:57] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [17:57] date +%s [17:57] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left ##slackware. [17:57] 1234566038 [17:57] :D [17:57] watch -n 1 date +%s [17:57] danc3: dang it .. I was just about to type it :) [17:57] heh [17:57] danc3, that doesn't work for me. [17:58] huh? [17:58] what do you mean, "it doesn't work"? [17:58] anyone know where I can get a RAQ4 cheap? [17:58] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [17:58] oh I thought that was an 'l' not a '1' [17:58] fail1 ;) [17:58] middle-click fail even [17:58] there are 823 people in ##1234567890 [17:59] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/retard.jpg [17:59] Hoogin (n=root@host56-73.etanet.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] danc3: you look like a thumb [18:00] :) [18:00] LOL [18:00] LOL [18:00] COol, updating and installing pkgs went well [18:00] yep that's a thumb if ever there was one [18:00] wow, some serious scrolling going on in ##1234567890 [18:00] very neat and fast [18:00] the website is blocked for malicious stuff [18:00] wtf [18:00] viva Slackware :D [18:01] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] bhodgins: what website? [18:01] holy crap...thats almost as bad as an xdcc channel hah [18:01] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.25) left irc: [18:01] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:01] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [18:01] so the world will end at 1234567890? [18:02] most likely, yes [18:02] or MS go bust? [18:02] one of the two [18:02] or, all non-Slackware systems will stop operating [18:02] efnet will probably split [18:02] sheh [18:02] but i have another little stupid thing in my kde, i want to added sound volume applet, but i did't found it [18:02] i found mixer...etc [18:02] kmix? [18:02] but not the sound volume applet [18:02] :( [18:02] kmix [18:02] cipher: you aren't saying that you can't find kmix are you? [18:02] wow, never seen anything like the flood going on in ##1234567890 [18:03] it's in multmedia somewhere [18:03] got it :D [18:03] need to add it, thanks guys [18:03] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [18:04] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] haha ha http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/sotp.jpg [18:04] that site [18:05] is blocked here [18:05] danc3 it is like an insane asylum in there [18:05] indeed [18:05] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-024-031-104-201.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:05] you could put an Ubuntu user in there and he would kill himself within 7 minutes [18:05] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:06] yeah [18:06] too much for such a small brain to process [18:06] danc3, good idea [18:07] Action: slackytude visits #ubuntu [18:07] i left, none of it made any sense [18:07] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:07] slackytude: did you visit ##1234567890 ? [18:07] nah [18:07] Nick change: AbortRetryFail -> ARF [18:07] dude, check it out. Amazing. [18:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:07] friggin painful to watch [18:07] nah, if I want weired shit nobdy wants, I go to work [18:08] 1234566482 [18:08] http://coolepochcountdown.com/ [18:08] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] less than a minute to go [18:09] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] oh wait [18:09] wahcordian|Work: nope. about 22 minutes [18:09] 30 minutes [18:09] hahaha I can't read [18:09] i'm getting DRUNK [18:09] too many 6's [18:09] Nick change: ARF -> AbortRetryFail [18:09] GATT0 (n=MntNickN@host80-67-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:10] http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/fail-owned-first-time-fail.jpg \O/ [18:10] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-63-218.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] josemanuel (n=josemanu@144.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:10] straterra, I loled [18:11] HI [18:11] nullboy: send me some of that alcohol! [18:11] sorry for caps [18:11] another Q, i need to enable the scroll in my mouse [18:12] i can't' read numbers. [18:12] a terrible number reader am I. [18:12] well I joined 1234567890 [18:13] got invited to #club-ubuntu [18:13] by emma [18:13] whale of a time [18:13] heh [18:14] i need to enable the scroll property in my mouse [18:14] ? [18:14] the wheel in your wheel mouse not working? [18:15] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.52.11) joined ##slackware. [18:15] cipher: Look for a line like this: "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and make sure it isn't commented out. [18:16] the upper scrolling wheel :( [18:16] what? [18:16] ok danc3 [18:17] and restart X [18:17] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [18:18] http://pastebin.com/d6164cade this makes my wheel mouse work (it is the mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf) [18:18] cipher, did you run xorgsetup? [18:18] no [18:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.65.3) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it" [18:19] is that will help? [18:20] most of the time [18:20] why doesn't the scroll wheel work by default installation [18:20] ? [18:20] it did on mine [18:20] I have to go change the xorg.conf [18:20] I haven't used slackware since 10 [18:21] should my wireless usb adapter work by default? [18:21] or should I have to go and configure it? [18:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:21] well you probably need load the correct module [18:21] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust846.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:22] after that the network needs configuring [18:22] with wep/wpa etc [18:23] what module do I need for a netgear wireleess -g -n [18:24] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [18:25] DDrKPssNgR (n=Red@189.82.125.95) joined ##slackware. [18:25] what are the chances of something really bad happening at 1234567890? [18:26] like what? [18:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.24.40) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:26] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [18:26] I suppose unless there's an easter egg of some kind in linux nothing. [18:26] it's not some special number other than the sequence... [18:26] wahcordian|Work, the chances are 1234567890 to 1 [18:26] y2k+9 :P [18:26] slackytude, haha [18:26] what about 9999999999? it would just go back to 0000000001. [18:26] ? [18:27] yes [18:27] and then it would be... 1901? [18:27] nope [18:27] 1973? [18:27] on modern systems you got 64 bit for time [18:27] thakes a while to fill up [18:28] what if people are 32-bit? and the computers keep working but we reset. [18:28] 1970btw unix time is from 1970 not 73 [18:28] wahcordian|Work: most people I know are only 8-bit [18:28] 1.84467441 × 1019 seconds [18:28] twilight zone [18:28] haha [18:28] or 2 bit [18:28] err x 10 **19 [18:28] need to restart my x11 [18:28] Action: NyteOwl is 36-bit [18:28] damn I missed it! [18:29] hahaha [18:29] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.2.124) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] 2 minutes [18:29] perl -e 'print scalar localtime(1234567890),"\n";' [18:29] Fri Feb 13 15:31:30 2009 [18:29] DDrKPssNgR (n=Red@189.82.125.95) left irc: Client Quit [18:29] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [18:29] god that # is going a bit mad [18:30] hahaha I know [18:30] somebody said they were going to strip for their webcam. [18:30] power down your systems now [18:30] one minute to go !!!! [18:30] I don't think new years was that crazy. [18:30] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.2.124) joined ##slackware. [18:30] mine is already 1234568055 [18:30] it's wrong [18:31] YAY [18:31] http://coolepochcountdown.com/ LOL [18:31] ? [18:31] Geeks, hah [18:32] happy 1234567890 [18:32] still not working :( [18:32] that stupid mouse's wheel [18:32] you're doing it wrong [18:33] pastebin your xorg.conf [18:33] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] everybody still alive? [18:33] any nukes gone up? [18:33] yeah [18:33] but I just launced them for the heck of it. ;) [18:33] thats the spirit1 [18:33] thats the spirit! [18:34] I think we're okay [18:34] my watch stopped tho. [18:34] :P [18:34] It stopped hours ago tho. [18:35] HAPPY 1234567890!!!! [18:35] Agiofws, thats so seconds ago [18:35] we are all hyped up for 2345678901 now [18:35] DDrKPssNgR (n=Red@189.82.125.95) joined ##slackware. [18:35] yep [18:36] lol ##1234567890 was scrolling a screenful a second [18:36] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: Connection timed out [18:36] http://rafb.net/p/0BdSNc79.html [18:36] ###1234567890 was fairly quiet [18:36] i just added: [18:36] # This line to make the mouse's wheel works [18:36] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [18:36] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. [18:36] i was in a subway sandwich shop and they had this little chromed device with model # MB6800 from Top Global. it's a multi wan unit for the cash register card swipe unit incase they have a lose of hardline [18:36] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:36] newbieslacker (n=slackarn@host33.190-30-91.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:37] the next good one is 9876543210 [18:37] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Pig_Pen, we'll all be dead by then [18:37] I will anyway [18:37] when? [18:37] God willing, me too. [18:37] nullboy: think what you could pick up with a sniffer :) [18:37] NyteOwl: you know i'm going to try too [18:37] me too, i am 46 now, i will be lucky if i have 20 more years left in me [18:38] GATT0 (n=MntNickN@host80-67-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "La gente molto spesso trova sbagliato cio che e' solo differente (Gianni Rodari - Il Cammello e il Dromedario)" [18:38] NyteOwl: That's a scary idea. [18:38] Pig_Pen, I'm 45 so I em winnar :) [18:38] well, it might be bad to die but look on the bright side. It will be party time for the worms [18:38] OMG! i am on my last 20! [18:38] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] yeah [18:39] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:39] #worm-party [18:39] younguns, sheesh [18:39] Pig_Pen, go and borrow some money [18:39] i'm 27 [18:39] life is just a temporary intermission between two eternal non-existances [18:39] is that supposed to be helpful? [18:40] nullboy, http://rafb.net/p/0BdSNc79.html [18:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] if i borrow money i will have to pay it back or lose my collateral, i want to leave my house and property to my kids can have something to fight over [18:41] newbieslacker (n=slackarn@host33.190-30-91.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] cipher: yeah that's wrong http://rafb.net/p/BJGu8R35.html [18:41] Pig_Pen: I think the next good one is quite before that. [18:41] you're missing the buttons line [18:41] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] whens the next good one rworkman? [18:42] date -d @2147483647 [18:42] what's that? the next prime? [18:42] 32 bit rollover [18:42] Mon Jan 18 21:14:07 CST 2038 [18:42] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:42] thanks nullboy, but that is not my fault, that's the default xorg file :) [18:43] another good one will be: 2222222222 [18:43] that's years away [18:43] I wonder if Jenny was born in 1970? date -d @ 8675309 [18:43] what about 1357902468 ? [18:43] nice [18:43] 31415926 [18:43] cipher: don't blame files [18:43] in the past [18:44] lol [18:44] there are thousands of examples on the internet.... [18:44] but am i supposed to get it work as a default [18:44] who said that? [18:44] I say there's only 5 years until the next good one.. date -d @1415926535 [18:44] come on, it's not 2.4 kernel :) [18:44] wtf does the kernel have to do with this? [18:45] eviljames, where's the 3.? [18:45] cipher, wtf? [18:45] dive: bah! Humbug on the 3 [18:45] updog [18:45] i thought it's the responsible in hw issues [18:45] am i wrong? [18:46] this isn't a hardware issue [18:46] so yeah wrong [18:47] there are loads of example xorg.confs on the web [18:47] aha, thanks [18:47] but btw [18:48] wtf!!!! i guess that language is uncalled for [18:48] wtf? [18:48] we learn from mistakes [18:48] you want me to go ahead and type it all out then? [18:48] what the fuck [18:49] and no big deal if someone asked Q, even if it's stupid one's [18:49] that's the the big deal. the big deal is that you made it out to be some bug [18:49] no, but no need to say wtf to me [18:49] not the* [18:49] cry me a river [18:49] ohh, i see [18:50] sounds you are one of pop micky mouse fan's [18:50] :P [18:50] wtf does that mean? [18:50] haha wow [18:50] that was a little bit of nonsense to finish off my workday. [18:50] I like it, keep up the good work! [18:50] ask eviljames [18:50] lol [18:50] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [18:51] well eviljames called it nonsense too so... [18:51] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:51] nullboy: Though, I encourage nonsense, it makes me laugh. [18:51] yeah, it's [18:51] Action: fred is very happy with his Q9300 [18:51] fred: damn [18:51] gah [18:51] damn [18:51] that's twice... [18:51] lol [18:51] FAIL [18:51] I've replied to something ~ 24h before [18:52] nice one [18:52] due to being positioned in scrollback :) [18:52] takes a lot of courage [18:52] shh. [18:52] fred: That's part of the reason that you are my hero. [18:52] :| [18:52] nullboy: Added bonus: they run happily at 3.5 ghz with pretty much no effort :) [18:52] now that's a dev box [18:53] beej71 (n=beej@zork.zork.net) left ##slackware. [18:58] Linux neutrino 2.6.28.5-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Feb 13 13:39:20 PST 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [18:58] you are all behind the times! [18:59] NyteOwl: so i got the user manual for that unit...any bets that the username/password is default still? [18:59] i say it is default or it is the store # [18:59] lmao [18:59] /bin/sh: /etc/uname: No such file or directory [18:59] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz [19:00] hehe [19:00] VICTORY IS MINE [19:00] it's nice and warm in here, too [19:00] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-104-29.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] Linux server02 2.6.28.4-SRV #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Feb 6 19:23:44 PST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [19:00] i win [19:00] Linux slack 2.6.28-smp #1 SMP Wed Jan 14 19:02:32 MST 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [19:01] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [19:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-29-165.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:01] anyway, thanks nullboy, dive [19:01] great, now I have to boot up my old 400Mhz laptop [19:01] cipher: get back on your blanket. [19:01] lol [19:01] and the others [19:01] it's fscking nap time [19:01] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] if you don't nap you don't get cheese and crackers later [19:02] I found a 400MB hard disk the other day [19:02] haha, cry me a river [19:02] lol [19:02] I treasure it :D [19:02] lol [19:03] kamaji: I've got a few 200-400mb drives [19:03] awwww [19:03] they're useful for swap space, I suppose [19:03] beaten again :( [19:04] they're useful to bring out at parties. Chicks dig tiny disks. [19:04] thats what i am having right now! smoked cheese on crackers [19:04] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] crackers with only 20 years to live [19:07] you should be eating whole hogs [19:07] dive what happens in 20 years? [19:07] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:07] Pig_Pen dies apparently [19:08] frullet (n=hooch@203-158-37-180.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:09] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.44.210) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [19:09] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:09] this is good cheese, smoked gouda [19:09] on a ritz cracker [19:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] now im hungry [19:10] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. [19:10] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [19:12] have a great weekend ppl! [19:12] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:15] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [19:16] damn this is a nice phone. do I want to pay $150 for it? [19:16] heh [19:16] Not if it's with bell! [19:16] Get them to give it to you for free.. if they push back say "Well Fido is going to give me that same one for free.." [19:16] what has that to do with the phone itself? [19:16] eviljames: nobody is giving this model away heh [19:16] NyteOwl: You're already a bell subscriber, right? It's painful for cell companies to lose a customer :) [19:17] NyteOwl: Bleed the bastards. [19:17] NyteOwl: Which one? [19:17] eviljames: naw - Bell doesn;t care if they retain cell customers or not [19:17] the official phone company of the NSA and CIA [19:17] Sanyo Pro-700 [19:17] boxxertrumps (n=ryan@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) joined ##slackware. [19:18] nokia N95 8Gb kicks butt :) [19:18] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] no Nokia available [19:18] NyteOwl: rugged, eh? I sometimes wish North America wasn't the stone age of cell phones [19:18] eviljames: I prefer the Moto Va76r Tundra but it's GSM only [19:18] Why this continent is 5 years behind the rest of the world in terms of cell tech, I may never figure out... [19:19] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-71-153-129-193.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] in some ways the USA lags behind in technology badly, considering how much development goes on here [19:19] NyteOwl: work phone I guess? Why rugged? [19:19] eviljames: because the telcos have their heads up their arses [19:19] no fibre optic to the house, [19:19] The state of broadband access in NA, specifically USA is deplorable. [19:20] I have 25mb connection, but pay through the nose for it. USA broadband averages 1.5mb [19:20] all the corporations are too busy thinking of ways to milk the system for all the money they can, so things that should be done dont get done [19:20] eviljames: well I'm used to a phone I don't have to worry about breaking. All the others I checked out looked like they'de break if I sneezed while holding them [19:20] NyteOwl: That's a very fair criticism, I think. [19:21] NyteOwl: They're certainly not designed to last, like a starTac was. [19:21] nothing is built to last anymore - damn system of planned obsolescence so they can sell sell sell and you have to buy buy buy [19:21] quality is a lost ideal [19:22] NyteOwl: is correct, just go to any electronics store and everything is junk that wont last 5 years [19:23] brand spanking new in the box and it is junk before you reach the cash register with it [19:23] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [19:24] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [19:25] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:26] DDrKPssNgR (n=Red@189.82.125.95) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] i wish we could get back to making things we are proud of and that will last a long time, they had it going on 2 centuries ago [19:27] just search Craigslist, i look at it daily for some old stuff worth buying, there are a couple of tube type radios i would buy in a second if i had the cash for them [19:27] wtf [19:27] every ten minutes this frigging server I'm connected to bails [19:27] but on one hand, the technology we like is small and smart, but to do that the parts have to be made and attached with robotic presicion [19:28] an old Browning Eagle Mark 4 that is selling for twice what it sold for brand new because the owner knows what its worth, i keep an eye on craigslist for that individual that is wanting to sell something good at a low price [19:30] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:30] dk (n=lima@99.49.20.233) joined ##slackware. [19:30] Browning made good CB sets. So did Tram adn Johnson [19:30] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [19:31] yup, there is a black face johnson messenger i would buy if the owner would come down in price [19:31] I like Brownings guns :P [19:31] Hello. I am downloading slackware-12.2, and I have a dell XPS M1530 [19:31] i would LOVE to buy a BAR [19:31] and bows [19:31] Pig_Pen: I have a 123B and a 352 SSB by Johnson. Excellent radios [19:31] am I going to encounter any problems when using it? [19:31] dk: I'm running 12.2 on that laptop right now [19:31] with several 20 round clips [19:32] dk: uh, what? [19:32] a BAR is a prohibited weapon here [19:32] probably here too, but that is an awesome rifle [19:32] danc3, does everything work straight out of box? :) [19:32] Pig_Pen: takes a damn good operator to get one shot off with one [19:33] dk: yes, other than the volume up/down buttons, but don't need them anyway [19:33] dk, you should have no problems, but you better know slackware pretty good or you will be asking lots of questions [19:33] I dont. haven't used slackware in ages [19:34] dk: I did have to fight the wireless a little, mine uses the "wl" driver and works great now. [19:34] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Connection timed out [19:34] Pig_Pen: I'd be more interested in another Browning item, a HiPower [19:34] danc3, thats the intel wireless driver right? [19:34] heck! i would even be greatful to own a M1 Garand (WW2 version) [19:35] dk: no, it's Broadcom in mine. Yours may be different, as Dell changes them now and then [19:35] Pig_Pen: I will be selling an M1 Carbine later this summer [19:35] dk: a fairly nice guide for new slackers to get up and running would be http://shilo.is-a-geek.com/ although it might be slightly dated, not much should be different [19:35] that is cool too, the little one [19:36] the carbine is a good brush gun, great for hunting wild boar [19:36] stitchman, thanks [19:36] Pig_Pen: unfortuantely here it's a restricted weapon becasue the barrel is 1/4" too short :( [19:36] requires a separate permit [19:37] and you can't use it for hunting [19:37] thats a stupid law, then i guess all handguns (pistols) are illegal too [19:37] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] stitchman, and I want to keep my /home .. should have no problems doing that correct? [19:38] all that over 1/4 inch, heck i would find a gunsmith to build a longer barrel for it [19:38] Pig_Pen: no, they are restricted weapons, unless the barrel is under 106mm then they are prohibited weapons :) [19:39] which basically meas anything under a 4 1/8" barrel is illegal [19:39] except for law enforcement or active military [19:39] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] a longer barrel usually means better accuracy @ longer distances, (some stupid legislature had nothing better to do) [19:40] of course. [19:40] dk: i just was looking at that site and it is kinda dated, also look at http://www.slackbook.org/ [19:40] wierd though to see a rifle that has that short a barrel though [19:41] well the logic was I think, the shorter the barrel the easier to conceal. and there is no concealed carry here [19:41] thx [19:41] brb [19:41] i guess they are concerned with potential concealment by crimminals [19:41] dk: yeah during the setup you can specify how to use your partitions, just dont format /home [19:41] panzer: we were talking handguns [19:41] ok cause I saw M1's and then M1 Carbine [19:42] oklahoma has a "make my day" law, with the proper license anyone can carry a consceled weapon, some crimes almost disapeared like car jacking and robbery [19:42] heh [19:42] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:42] they do the same here [19:42] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] nobody knows who has a firearm so the crimminals think twice now before pulling something stupid [19:43] Pig_Pen: there is a town in Georgia nicknamed "GunTown, USA" where a city bylaw REQUIRES every hosehold have afirearm. Has the lowest crime rate of any city in the US heh [19:43] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-171-59-161.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:43] is this #nra? :P [19:43] yea we have stupid crimnals [19:43] TwinReverb: no, Guns 'R' Us. Getting ready for Valentines when It becoems Guns "N' Roses :p [19:43] oh gru [19:44] i keep two firearms, a 12 guage shotgun loaded with 00 buck and a .357 with semi jacketed hollow points [19:44] / gnr [19:44] I prefer Glassers :) [19:44] heh TwinReverb wassup? [19:44] Glassers? [19:45] not much, you? [19:45] Pig_Pen: yes. they were originally developed for air marshalls. small shot suspended in liquid teflon [19:45] they expend ALL energy on impact with no richocets [19:45] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] er ricochets [19:45] ah, i seen those for a .44 magnum [19:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasser_effect [19:45] Scifi guns! [19:46] TwinReverb: nada. shopping for new cell phone (which is more complicated than expected) [19:46] NyteOwl, get a cheap Motorola handset. [19:46] You can't go wrong. [19:46] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:46] good enough to kill but wont penetrate the skin of an aircraft [19:46] then again having a .45 ACP anything that doesn't go down when hit is being propped up from behind :) [19:47] ccfreak2k: the only Moto available is a Razr2 V9m and it's as fragile as hell seems to have crap battery life and isn't that cheap :) [19:47] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-88-176-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:48] the.45 is nice dependable side arm [19:48] I'm not sure about the crap battery life part, but it certainly isn't the most durable model. [19:48] I have long fingers, and I hate it too. [19:48] well I'm quoteing 98% of the reviews I read. They all liekd the style and the sound quality but almost all complained about poor battery life [19:49] NyteOwl, find a second-hand cell phone or something instead of a new one. [19:49] NyteOwl: that sanyo pro-700 looks like something I'd get. [19:50] chopp it's about the best I can find from what Bell ahs available. I prefer the Moto Tundra but it's only in GSM [19:51] NyteOwl: your where, in NS right? Only bell there? [19:51] someone recommedned the Palm Centro. Looks liek a cross between my Palm Pilot and a cell phone [19:52] I'd like an openmoko if I had more money. [19:52] chopp: no, but they seem to (surprisingly) have the best pricing at the moment. And as I'm a current customer there are no hassles with switching numebrs etc and no new activation fees etc [19:52] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [19:53] NyteOwl: I see. Bell here too, but I've only ever dealt with telus, and rogers. [19:53] I really have no complaints with Bell's actuall cell service to this point. I just wish they had a wider seelction of phones [19:54] My first cell phone was with Cantel (Rogers) but that was about 10 years ago [19:54] cellphone services and cellphones should be agnostic of eachother so any cellphone will will with any service [19:54] I was with them for about 4 years and switched to MT&T (whcih then became Aliant, which got bought by Bell) [19:55] Pig_Pen: hard to do when GSM and CDMA and IDEN technologies are so different [19:55] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-163-135.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [19:55] i guess i dont know enough about the higher end cellphone services [19:55] i just use em to make phone calls [19:55] frullet (n=hooch@203-158-37-180.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:55] I just do "pay as you go" through rogers presently, for as much as I need a cell. [19:55] it's not a matter of "higher end" it's the basic technology in sue by the network [19:56] it's liek the difference between ethernet and IPX or token ring etc [19:57] i can surf the internet on mine, but i dont see any point in doing that because i have a nice desktop at home [19:57] chopp: in typical geek fashion I'd like to have a Blackberry but can't justify the expense [19:58] NyteOwl: yes, I can relate with that. [19:59] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-163-135.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] i would have to be on the road working all week long before i would buy something like a blackberry [20:00] even then a laptop would be better when staying at hotels/motels [20:00] dk (n=lima@99.49.20.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:00] NyteOwl, shopping for a cell phone, or anything these days it seems, is too complicated [20:01] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:01] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] few sites have good search tools [20:01] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] same goes for a laptop (you probably remember my rants this month and last) [20:01] even google has brain farts when i need to search for something just slightly obscure [20:02] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] you do know computers can only do what you tell it to do [20:02] ie. your searches are as good as your search terms [20:02] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] i am aware of that tank-man [20:03] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-70-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] laugh [20:06] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [20:11] blackorca (n=blackorc@68-245-34-20.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [20:12] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] tank-man, is that some kind of Megaman villan? [20:13] its two nouns put together [20:13] day man, fighter of the night man... [20:16] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) left ##slackware (".. Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe..."). [20:16] sock-man wearer of the sock [20:17] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:17] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:18] tank-man, what a terrible answer. [20:18] nullboy: his special ability is where he wears that sock? :P [20:18] Fiddler on the Roof is on TCM [20:18] he wears ONE sock [20:19] and that's all [20:19] so what module do I need to use a netgear wireless USB wireless-b and wireless-n? [20:19] not enough information [20:19] what chipset? what model? [20:19] i picked this name after the man who stood up to the tanks in tiananmen square [20:20] better answer? [20:20] sweet [20:20] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:21] Netgear WN111 [20:21] sound familiar? [20:21] great now you can enter that into google! [20:21] dk (n=lima@99.49.20.233) joined ##slackware. [20:22] haha [20:22] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [20:23] hmm..took about 6 seconds to discover driver required. [20:25] yes! channel 111 enabled! [20:25] ok looking up the driver brings me to UBUNTU forums [20:25] that doesn't help [20:26] sure it does.... [20:26] pirving you fail. [20:26] perhaps it shall configure itself with hotplug? [20:26] wow. [20:26] Action: NyteOwl will be spending more time watching TV now :) [20:26] did you even try to read those forums? how do you think we figured out the driver you need? [20:26] Ubuntu says it will configure itself [20:26] I read the forums [20:27] hmmm [20:27] do any of you happen to use mrv hardware? [20:27] NyteOwl: 111=sports? or porn. ;) [20:28] chopp: Speed - racing in variosu forms - mostly cars :) [20:28] cool [20:28] netmw245? [20:28] NASCAR trucks at the moment [20:28] you need ndiswrapper [20:28] Action: NyteOwl sued to be a stock car junkie [20:29] I thought ndiswrapper installs by itself? [20:29] yeah with magic [20:29] ananke: nope, I had to even google mrv. [20:29] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/ndiswrapper/ [20:29] there is the magic you need [20:29] ok, so I should go rtfm? [20:29] multiple reentry vehicles? :) [20:30] wait, I'm doing an installation...shoot, I should burn it before hand huh [20:30] Action: ananke is trying to find somebody who has an active support contract with mrv [20:31] mrv comms? [20:31] NyteOwl : yep [20:32] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [20:32] ok, I should burn it and how do I configure ndiswrapper? [20:32] you need to read. [20:33] read the faq and how to at that slackbuilds.org site to see how you build ndiswrapper and configure it [20:34] ndiswrapper the documentation that will be installed with that slackbuild will contain an INSTALL file with instructions [20:34] dngr (n=dngr@pcd548234.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:35] I also downloaded ndisconfig a gui [20:35] it's a tar.gz not a tgz file [20:36] that is the same thing... [20:36] oh because it's source? [20:36] jrd (n=jrd@ip68-3-48-188.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] how do I get to that install menu? [20:36] I forget [20:36] just stop. [20:36] http://www.slackbasics.org/ [20:38] pkgtool [20:38] there [20:40] pkgtool is not going to help you with a tar.gz source tarball [20:41] oh, ok....make make install [20:41] ./configure [20:41] ? [20:41] no. [20:41] it's a slackbuild right? [20:41] Bonix (n=Bonix@212-lo1.rt2.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:41] yeah [20:41] pirving: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [20:41] i told him to read that already [20:41] Fuck, i give up. [20:42] me too [20:42] put the source in the same dir as the extracted slackbuild. [20:42] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.170.128) joined ##slackware. [20:45] nullboy: Maybe this will make you feel better, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM&feature=channel_page :D If it doesn't, don't blame me. [20:46] Next, download the source of the application from the address listed in the chemtool.info file and place it in the chemtool directory listed above [20:46] chemtool is an example. [20:46] I can't download the source, I'm doing a fresh install [20:47] pyou don't even have slackware installed? [20:47] you* [20:47] no, I downloaded the slackbuild and burned it to cd...I'm doing a fresh install [20:47] should I go to sourceforge and download the source? [20:47] is slackware installed or not? [20:47] not yet [20:47] i am baffled here. i don't know what to say. [20:48] is the Nokia 6275i any good? [20:48] pirving: You got some stuff mixed up. [20:48] can someone please straighten me out? [20:48] pirving: go to slackware.com and download the 12.2 iso. [20:48] step 1. install operating system. step 2. install drivers [20:49] pirving: do a /topic [20:49] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [20:49] i think it lists the torrent link in there. [20:49] download it. [20:49] burn it. [20:49] come back once it's installed and maybe a slackbuild will make more sense. [20:49] :D [20:49] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [20:49] Also read that book nullboy gave you the link for. [20:49] it will tell you how to install it and all that good stuff. [20:50] It's a really good read. [20:50] I can't get connected to my wireless adapter, I need these tools now [20:50] not later [20:50] you are mistaken [20:50] ... [20:50] you need an operating system installed before you can make use of wireless drivers. [20:51] install slackware using the CDs or DVD and then worry about the wireless [20:51] agentc0re: I liked that youtube vid. :) [20:51] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-163-135.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] I understand, I'm just concerned that when I build my slackbuild it will look to the net for a connection [20:52] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [20:52] chopp: HEHE, it's funny. He has a lot of other good vids too. [20:52] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:52] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [20:52] this is going nowhere [20:52] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [20:53] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [20:53] pirving: it wont. [20:53] hfjardim (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Client Quit [20:54] ok cool thanks [20:54] wish me luck and if I have any, I'll be back on here with bitchx [20:54] pirving: i think what you mean to tell us is really this: the only connection to the internet that you have is going to be over wifi. get the ndiswrapper sources and the build scripts. get the windows driver too. put those on a CD or USB stick. install slackware. put the cd with the drivers into the system and build ndsiwrapper [20:54] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] hi. there was a text-editor that was just like gedit only multitabbed; anyone know what I'm talking about? [20:55] ok, I think I have the windows driver on the driver disc that came with the adapter correct? [20:55] pirving: We'd far prefer that you come back on with irssi. BX is not well-liked around these parts. [20:55] pirving: that might work [20:55] dartmouth: Kate/ [20:55] ? [20:55] irssi it is [20:55] geany; n/m sorry [20:56] now he's never going to come back as soon as he tries irssi [20:56] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [20:56] http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi [20:57] irssi makes me want to cry [20:57] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] nullboy: Heh, why is that? [20:57] just personal preference with no substantial backing. i hate it [20:57] bbiab [20:57] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:58] Well at least you can use it... I tried it and just gave up. /fail [20:58] nullboy: im with you on that one, although I don't hate it [20:58] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.166.134.23) joined ##slackware. [20:58] dudes! irssi rocks! :) [21:00] irssi doesn't offend me whenever someone quits. ;) [21:00] HAHA [21:00] Kind of like that jackass last night? [21:01] i saw that one last night [21:01] that was perfect [21:01] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [21:02] UnionPivo (n=union@clj8-137.dial-up.arnes.si) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:02] lemme guess psufan ? [21:02] I can't remember.. [21:02] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [21:02] lol [21:02] I was trying to find it in my logs. [21:03] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Rat409: yes, that fool. [21:03] there are slackware logs somewhere online [21:03] his last words were something around the lines of how childish we all were and he left. and then his exit message was something horrid. [21:03] i forgot to noobfarm it. :( [21:04] lol [21:04] hint hint.. [21:04] Action: jkwood uses /lastlog to find it [21:04] jkwood: what do you use to chat with? [21:04] This channel has public logs :P [21:04] irssi. [21:05] yup got that plugin myself [21:05] im using irssi! [21:05] BitchX is good too [21:05] TriniTuX (n=clayton@cuscon127307.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [21:05] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:05] irssi 0.8.13-svn (20090120 1415) ftw [21:06] yuh if i use bx i turn off the quit msg [21:06] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@wifi.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:07] TriniTuX (n=clayton@cuscon127307.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware. [21:08] Hmm... it's not showing up. Ah well. [21:08] what isn't? [21:08] ah [21:09] that's cos he clicked the big X maybe [21:09] and didnt learn screen [21:09] He wasn't using the nick "psufan" at that point, I don't think. [21:09] oh god, thats him? [21:09] 'how can I install slackware on my retractable pencil?' [21:09] heh [21:10] try mibbit? dive lmao [21:10] dive: I don't think we're talking about the same thing. [21:10] man, that would be one sweet retractable pencil [21:10] Action: dive stabs kamaji with it [21:11] oh no my spleen [21:11] I was using that [21:11] IN THE EYE [21:11] I have a rare genetic disorder [21:11] ah well spleens are ten a dozen [21:11] pirving (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:11] my old Biology teacher had three kidneys [21:12] on the subject of multiple organs [21:13] for some reason I read that as 'multiple orgasms' [21:13] first time [21:13] hahaha [21:13] must be getting near spring [21:13] maybe hunger [21:13] and that [21:14] and the joy at surviving UTC 1234567890 on Fri 13th [21:14] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:14] jrd (n=jrd@ip68-3-48-188.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [21:15] I missed it :( [21:15] I realised half an hour late [21:15] you didn't miss much except a whole of # flooding [21:15] oh ^^ [21:16] Action: dive goes looking for food [21:21] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:23] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) joined ##slackware. [21:25] larai (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [21:25] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [21:26] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [21:26] hi all [21:26] someone alive? [21:26] no [21:26] Action: agentc0re is dead [21:26] We're all zombies [21:26] Nick change: larai -> mth_- [21:26] typical [21:26] :D [21:26] Please break the glass and get the shotgun please [21:26] hey guys i hop you can help me [21:26] hope [21:26] i can hop [21:27] I can hop more [21:27] I hop for NO MAN [21:27] :D [21:27] HOPPING CHALLENGE: BEGIN [21:27] ahhahaahah [21:27] sorry [21:27] Action: dive hops [21:27] I think we have bigger problems if some are dead and zombies. [21:27] :D [21:27] Action: kamaji hops [21:27] Maybe you should help us all first. [21:27] hahHhhahaha [21:27] hopping zombies, what?! [21:27] ahaahah [21:27] Action: dive ips moar [21:27] ips? [21:27] Action: dive hops moar [21:27] if they hop, they are infected! [21:27] kill the hoppers [21:27] Action: mth_- from chile, 11:27 PM [21:27] Action: kamaji shoots dive [21:27] Today is Setting Orange, the 45th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 [21:28] and other random spam [21:28] Hah hah. [21:28] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "Leaving" [21:28] well [21:28] mth_-, so what is the problem? [21:28] i'm using slackware 12.2 on a IBM thinkpad X41 [21:28] btw dive, do you know any cool pkgs repo for 12.2? [21:28] nice [21:28] hey. slackware 12.2 does not come with kde 4.2? [21:28] Well there's your problem. [21:28] cipher, slackbuilds.org [21:29] i don't know, i use XFCE [21:29] dk: it's in testing. [21:29] well, the issue is with the intel video driver o mesa [21:29] Free the hops. [21:30] hops? what hops? [21:30] sycho (n=user@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:30] i'm sure is a issue with xorg. Sometimes suddenly X dies and i get a black screen with a file of pixels [21:30] In your beer. [21:30] hmmm [21:30] Hey guys, I have an ancient ibm thinkpad 340 CSE that I'm installing Slackware on. What version would you guys reccomend [21:30] mth_-: I dont see the problem here. :P [21:30] do you see sometimes black images in web pages? [21:30] ahahaha [21:30] sycho: 12.2 [21:30] weird. today we were just discussing hops at work. we're going to start growing some [21:31] they are getting pricey [21:31] My Co-worker grows his own. [21:31] well, the system freezes suddenly when i'm using the intel or i810 driver [21:31] ananke: I was just reading scrollback, and was reminded of the "slogan" here in Alabama to "Free the Hops" -- trying to do away with the insane laws that prevent beer of too high % alcohol [21:31] thrice` : yep. there is a shortage [21:31] sounds like buggy driver [21:31] thanks dive [21:31] agentc0re cool. I am actually going to install slack 12.2 on a high-end dell laptop. I thought the default wm was kde 4.2 LOL :( [21:31] mth_-: they made it so when you use intel it's the same as using i810 afaik, fyi. [21:31] i found that could be a bug in mesa [21:31] mth_-, you could try fbdev driver and see if it's any better [21:32] rworkman: that obvious solution is to market it as NOT beer [21:32] now i'm on vesa driver and all goes ok (no 3d acceleration obviously) [21:32] dk: No, but you can get it. it's in the testing folder of whatever repo you choose to download slackware from. Obviously you should use the repo's listed from the slackware site. [21:32] mth_-, try fbdev [21:32] two of my coworkers brew their own beer, and my boss has a farm. we're going to pitch to purchase some hops rhizomes, and hopefully we'll be able to use them for brewing [21:32] Nick change: sycho -> cylux [21:32] dk: it's already packaged for 12.2, and there are easy instructions for installation. [21:32] boxxertrumps: perhaps true, but that's absurd. One shouldn't have to "work around bugs" [21:32] hey dive, what do fbdev? [21:33] Action: boxxertrumps needs to setup an authentication server on the debian p3 [21:33] agentc0re where?! [21:33] ananke: make me some rum and I'll marry you [21:33] thanks [21:33] what does fbdev? [21:33] rworkman: what's the limit? [21:33] Hey guys, I have an ancient ibm thinkpad 340 CSE that I'm installing Slackware on. What version would you guys reccomend? [21:33] thrice`: 5.5 iirc, but I won't swear to it [21:33] oh my o.O [21:33] mth_-, fbdev is another driver - not sure if it has any hw accel though [21:33] straterra : :) [21:33] cylux: how much memory? [21:33] ahmm okay [21:33] ananke: thats awesome. we've been trying to get my co-worker to finally brew but he's a lazy old man. [21:34] ThunderWolf (n=ThunderW@bl9-255-108.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Public PJIRC @ http://pjirc.viper007bond.com/" [21:34] this is what i found in mesa3d.org [21:34] rworkman: i just wanted to see a can labeled "NOT Beer" ;_; [21:34] hehe [21:34] dk: i just told you where. [21:34] Fixed depth/stencil bug in i915/945 driver [21:34] that fix comes with Mesa 7.2 [21:34] straterra: One sec, checking [21:35] but slackware 12.2 comes with mesa 7.0.3 [21:35] Of course, here in Alabama, alcohol is so evil that the state has to handle most of the sales; the vast majority of the liquor stores are "ABC Stores" [21:35] agentc0reWORK, my coworkers have been brewing for years now, so they got some experience. we usually supply them with beer bottles, and some money for the supplies. hopefully with our own hops it will be even better [21:35] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Laters ya old cold taters" [21:35] mth_-, you may be able to just download and compile 7.2 [21:35] straterra: 3712 KB of RAM [21:35] and upgradepkg it [21:35] I mentioned that they should consider handling prostitution and drugs the same way, and they looked at me like *I* was the crazy one. [21:35] but, it requires Xorg 7.4 [21:35] straterra: So like... 4 megs [21:35] ah [21:35] and slackware comes with Xorg 7.3 :( [21:36] rworkman: Hahah. [21:36] mth_-, do you *really* need hw acceleration? Play 3D games or use any 3D graphic progs? [21:37] really really no [21:37] i don't need [21:37] dk (n=lima@99.49.20.233) left irc: [21:38] straterra: ? [21:38] try the fbdev driver and see how it goes - fbdev supports acpi while vesa doesn't [21:38] mth_-: i wonder if it's happening because you are allotting to much ram to your onboard graphics card? Assuming it uses shared memory. [21:39] agentc0re, some similar appears in xorg.log.old [21:39] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "thanks" [21:39] let me paste the line [21:39] space: 130412 wanted 131064 [21:40] FatalError re-entered, aborting [21:40] lockup [21:40] that's [21:40] Action: thrice` couldn't handle beer at 5.5 max [21:40] Hey guys, I have an ancient ibm thinkpad 340 CSE that I'm installing Slackware on. What version would you guys reccomend? [21:41] pastebin your xorg.conf [21:41] mth_-: [21:41] okay [21:41] cylux: that makes 3 times you've asked in about 5 minutes. if noone answers, it's because they don't know/care [21:41] Somebody ought to know. [21:41] cylux: Or have already answered you. [21:41] agentc0re, but now i'm using driver vesa [21:41] 4mb of ram is worthless [21:42] with 4MB ram? I doubt if anyone knows [21:42] you sure you reading that right? [21:42] Yes [21:42] It's an ancient box man [21:42] grab the oldest version you can find perhaps [21:42] what do you hope to do with it? [21:42] jrd (n=jrd@ip68-3-48-188.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] Basic word procesing [21:43] no chance [21:43] Any of you guys know where to find old versions of slackware? [21:43] nope [21:43] X will not run on it [21:43] There's got to be something pre-x. [21:43] dos maybe 5.x,or 6.x [21:43] mth_-: did you use xorgsetup or xorgconfig to make a new xorg.conf? there should be a back up of the intel one you used. [21:43] cylux: google? [21:43] Nah window 3.x works fine [21:43] BP{k}: What.. No!? why would anyone do that? :P [21:43] nope [21:43] cylux, I've been looking for a cli word processor myself and not found anything yet [21:43] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:43] nullboy1 (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:44] agentc0re: to find porn of course :P [21:44] Nick change: nullboy1 -> nullboy [21:44] i only changed the line in section driver [21:44] BP{k}: Bah... dump.com :P [21:44] except vim [21:44] http://www.pastebin.ca/1336678 my xorg.conf [21:44] mth_-: OKay, post that one then. [21:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [21:46] cylux: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/slackware/ [21:46] Zosma: Thanks! =[ [21:46] =]]]* [21:46] np [21:46] um... cli word processor: tex [21:46] cylux: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html [21:46] mth_-: run xorgsetup as root, and restart X. I'd then recommend specifying videoram to how much it should have. I also think where you have DRI under device is wrong. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/a-guide-enabling-3d-acceleration-in-x11-402003/ [21:47] mth_-: run it to get intel back as the driver. [21:47] 2.3.0...good luck with that. [21:47] http://www.pastebin.ca/1336680 [21:47] that's my xorg.log.old [21:47] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.2.124) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:49] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [21:49] pirving (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] rworkman, I edit files in vim and do abiword -t rtf on them :) [21:49] ok, I boot of the boot cd and when I run fdisk I get a read only error [21:49] should I use fdisk in windows to blow away the partition? [21:49] no [21:50] what are you running fdisk against? [21:50] ./dev/hda [21:50] and are you absolutely certain that hda is your hard disk? [21:50] yes [21:50] what is your cdrom? [21:51] dive: that works too, I suppose. Never tried that. [21:51] agentc0re, take a look at my xorg.log.old please [21:51] I've never run into this problem before [21:51] ... [21:51] rworkman, also enscript works well [21:51] after the error, I see a 698 MB of free space [21:51] but I can't read the windows partition within linux [21:52] mth_-: I did. no (EE)'s and nothing that looks too out of the ordinary on (WW). Do what i suggested above. I think you had some configuration mistakes in the xorg.conf. [21:52] what type of hard disk is it? [21:52] Wiil rpm2tgz convert fedora 10 and fedora 9 correctly? [21:52] is it sata or ata? [21:52] skibur: what are you wanting to build/install? [21:52] okay [21:52] scid app [21:53] http://katrine.lpi.ru/kalenkov/ [21:53] skibur: is there a slackbuild for it? [21:53] hum... [21:53] let me check [21:53] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:53] how do i check the amount of ram my video card has? [21:53] ata [21:53] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] how do i check the amount of ram my video card have? [21:53] pirving: how are you running fdisk? what is the exactl command? [21:53] they did a preety good job on Friday the 13th [21:53] lol wow, agentc0re, nevermind :P [21:53] exact [21:54] Looked Great except for the damn crowed of people [21:54] skibur: Always look there first. If there isn't anything there i'd always recommend using src2pkg (a nice slackware tool) that will help build a slackware package from source. [21:54] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [21:54] good night [21:55] ok [21:55] cfdisk [21:55] thats it [21:55] and fdisk /dev/hda [21:55] mth_-: did you already recreate your xorg.conf using xorgsetup? [21:55] I used sbopkg to check [21:55] so you aren't running fdisk.... [21:55] does anyone here knows about LVM? [21:55] why did you say fdisk? [21:55] LOL [21:55] windows fdisk [21:55] nope [21:55] src2pkg ? is it safe? [21:55] god [21:55] Kenjiro: i use it. [21:55] My doubt is, if I issue "pvcreate" on the wrong partition, is it already lost forever? [21:55] skibur: I use it. [21:55] i'm making a backup of that [21:55] agentc0re: I am just begining with it [21:56] Kenjiro: I've never created a LVM with existing data on the disk. [21:56] agentc0re, sorry if i explained bad [21:56] yeah, looks like I did that *LOL* [21:56] but my X freezes randomly [21:56] freezes randomly when using intel driver [21:57] I did "pvcreate /dev/sda2" when it should be "pvcreate /dev/sdb2" [21:57] Kenjiro: Hrmm. you may have not lost it. [21:58] Kenjiro: do a pvremove /dev/sda2 [21:58] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] agentc0re: I did that. But I can't mount that partition again [21:58] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] it was a NTFS partition :P [21:59] hmm, I see to wierd partitions on here EISA and an unknown partition [21:59] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: "leaving" [21:59] mth_-: Well my suggestion is to try it again but with a correct xorg.conf and maybe you wont. That's what i am trying to help you out with here. The link i gave you earlier will help with the correct settings that should be in the xorg.conf for 3d excel. and xorgsetup will help you create a proper xorg.conf with the intel driver. [21:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Kenjiro: you may just need to chkdsk it. [22:00] pirving (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:00] Kenjiro: run ntfsfix on it. [22:00] agentc0re: in Windows it shows the partition as empty... and it asks to format it [22:00] but let's see [22:00] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] okay agentc0re [22:01] agentc0re: ok, thanks [22:01] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:01] mth_- (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) left irc: [22:08] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: "oh well......" [22:09] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:10] dk (n=lima@adsl-76-192-246-145.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] ok. I just installed slackware-12.2 and I thought X was included on the first CD. [22:11] what made you think that? [22:11] I am stuck here without X [22:11] :P [22:11] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:11] slackpkg install x might help [22:11] spook, [22:12] I dont even have slackpkg installed here. lol [22:12] it's in ap/ of 12.2 O.o [22:12] ah [22:12] sorry [22:19] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [22:21] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.170.128) left irc: "leaving" [22:23] larai (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [22:23] agentc0re, [22:23] i made the changes [22:24] Nick change: larai -> mth- [22:24] i ran xorgsetup [22:25] http://www.pastebin.ca/1336698 my current xorg.conf [22:27] boxxertrumps (n=ryan@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:27] nix_chix0r, [22:28] i'm in the tub! [22:28] wtf [22:28] kinky [22:28] o_O [22:28] rubba dub dub [22:28] pregnant woman int he tub [22:28] mr bubble sucks ass they dont stay bubbly very long [22:28] i'm a prune [22:28] mth-: Did you hadd the DRI option under device? [22:29] yeah [22:29] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:29] mth-: where did you find that says to put that option in there? I swear that's wrong. [22:29] i don't remember [22:29] spook, felt like the baby was trying to come out so i didnt know what to do hopped in the tub [22:29] you think i must delete that lines? [22:29] mth-: Okay well remove it and follow this. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/a-guide-enabling-3d-acceleration-in-x11-402003/ [22:30] nix_chix0r: maybe hospital is a better idea? [22:30] ^^ good plan [22:30] hi, im trying to make a button that launches a command in aterm and then does -not- exit the aterm afterwards; per the aterm manual -e launches a command in aterm, but even with a & at the end it terminates the process that is ran as well as kills the aterm. is there a workaround for this? [22:31] spook, gota wait for the bf he has the car and is 3hrs away right now [22:31] .oO( babaies dont wait) [22:31] -a :( [22:32] nix_chix0r: threaten him to make him go faster [22:32] i have duct tape! [22:32] nix_chix0r, trying to drown the baby already? [22:32] he aint commin out lol [22:32] you you suppose to at least wait for it to come out before attempting to drown him? [22:32] dartmouth: maybe a script that starts a shell, then that process, then would drop you back to the shell.. [22:32] s/you/aren't/ [22:32] ugh.. if that makes sense [22:32] edman007, i kill ponies not babies [22:32] pfft, girl here years ago had a baby in the tub [22:33] nearly drowned the thing! [22:33] nix_chix0r, and you are in the process of working your way up to killing babies [22:33] pony killing is just the start [22:33] its a gateway crime [22:33] ha [22:33] oh it is not [22:34] next its drug dealers [22:34] i'm pretty sure they are just the false contractions [22:34] nix_chix0r, actions speak louder than words [22:34] dngr (n=dngr@pcd340233.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [22:34] mth-: if you remove that line from device and add "VideoRam 262144" (thats for 256Mb) and restart X and then follow the guide to make sure 3d is working. [22:34] ok [22:35] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:35] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [22:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:36] i don't know the MB of my card [22:36] :( [22:36] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [22:36] i don't know the videoram of my card [22:36] ... [22:37] mth-: How much ohboard do you have? I bet it shares memory. [22:37] dk (n=lima@adsl-76-192-246-145.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:37] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:37] i have 1 giga [22:37] im trying to find a good mobo and cpu and video card deal for the myth tv i dont want something very high end if i dont really need it [22:37] mth-: That setting should be fine then. [22:37] okay [22:38] nix_chix0r: Get one of the prebuilt dell machines. [22:38] nix_chix0r: one second.. [22:38] bah hulu is not working for me [22:38] nix_chix0r, i recommend an IA64 box [22:39] nix_chix0r: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=us&cs=19&l=en&ref=dthp&s=dhs [22:39] agentc0re, are you insane? [22:39] edman007: No, I'm not. [22:39] are you sure? [22:39] agentc0re: kindly stfu about using dell machines [22:39] edman007, wants me to spend like 8grand on a computer [22:39] mth- (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] ew that thing is ugly [22:40] wtffff [22:40] Bonix (n=Bonix@212-lo1.rt2.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] superGear (n=superGea@71.237.2.254) joined ##slackware. [22:40] superGear (n=superGea@71.237.2.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] really dell's studio hybrid's aren't bad since they are not made by dell really [22:40] nix_chix0r, 8? pfft, it will be a miracle if you spend under $50k [22:40] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) joined ##slackware. [22:40] .............. [22:40] edman007, i'm not gona spend more than 400bucks [22:40] nix_chix0r, i'm thinking something that take up the room [22:40] my cat was drinkin out the bathtub water now hes head is in the toilet hahahha [22:41] nix_chix0r: get a cheap amd board and cpu, probally microatx [22:41] mth- (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [22:41] i should flush it [22:41] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) left irc: Client Quit [22:41] dartmouth: How'd you go [22:41] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) joined ##slackware. [22:41] agentc0re, 3d acceleration stills working [22:41] Fine you dell haters. nix_chix0r http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167020 [22:41] i seen some cpu and mobo combos [22:41] on newegg [22:41] or was it tiger direct [22:42] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) left irc: Client Quit [22:42] i'm hungry. [22:42] spook: Why should i stfu about dell PC's? [22:42] agentc0re: because thats going to be easily 1k [22:42] my D620 works 100% with slackware [22:42] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) joined ##slackware. [22:42] i got it used too [22:42] wheres the price on that media box [22:43] spook: Did you even look at my link? they are like under $500 for one of them and they come with 1080p hdmi ports. you can't ask for anything better. [22:43] My D830 works 100% with Slackware too. [22:43] nix_chix0r: Ah shit, i googled for it. They must of got rid of it. [22:43] nix_chix0r: look for msi medi live on google. i remember they cost around $300 or so. [22:43] word [22:43] i have the glenlivet ! [22:43] with a couple tb hds i'll be set [22:44] When i somewhat helped out with LMCE, we recommended those a lot. [22:44] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-184-140.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] cylux (n=user@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [22:44] the amount of movies my buddy has. i'm gona bring some hds over and copy them over [22:44] should only take 30hrs to get what he has on mine [22:44] nix_chix0r: Do you have an xbox 360? [22:44] 30hrs over ata or sata? [22:44] geez [22:44] nah a ps2 [22:45] ugh i hope he gets sick from drinkin my bath water [22:45] Oh, was just going to say you could do it over uShare with a 360 Or ps3 even. [22:45] and vomits all over your bf's bed [22:45] i have satellite internet [22:46] spook, you mean my bed:P [22:46] all this shit is mine [22:46] lol shit [22:46] even the 40inch tv [22:46] thats why i wana make a myth tv box [22:46] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! [22:47] superGear (i=superGea@71.237.2.254) left irc: Client Quit [22:47] spook, he uses linux because i do:P [22:48] he has no choice [22:48] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:49] nix_chix0r: not sure about compatibility but sort this by price. Asus machines on sell too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000010&Description=htpc&name=Desktop%20PCs [22:50] i'll weigh my options. who knows it could be cheaper for once to buy a box than to build it [22:50] thanks for the links agentc0re [22:50] i've never owned a dell:o [22:50] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:51] or intel for that matter [22:51] People tend to hate Dell for political rather than technical reasons, IME. [22:51] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [22:51] yep [22:51] i just always went with what was the good deal [22:52] best bang for my buck [22:53] I wish Asus made emachines better [22:53] now with those ultra slim computers i wonder if it's a pain in the ass to upgrade the hd [22:53] well Gateway anyways [22:53] cause 120 is not big enough for what i need [22:54] I keep getting them confused [22:54] i should check out zipzoomfly.com [22:55] nix_chix0r: ya but you can always stream it from another PC or networked storage device from the network. [22:55] true [22:56] openwrt on the router ftw [23:01] super robot monkey team, hyperforce go! [23:03] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: "Ik ga weg" [23:03] lima (n=lima@adsl-76-192-246-145.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] hey. can you guys help me setup wpa2 with wpa_supplicant [23:04] use wicd [23:04] mth- (i=1000@190-95-79-7.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] man [23:04] such a departure from the way [23:04] lima: what card do you have? [23:05] I don't really get why people like wicd really [23:05] an intel wireless agn [23:05] 4965 i think [23:06] kitche : wireless. [23:06] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:07] ananke: yes and your point beside that it makes multiple setups easier [23:07] lima: you can use the stock rc.inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant.conf with that card easily or use wicd [23:08] quite honestly, wireless on linux is a bitch, unless you use something like networkmanager or wicd [23:08] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:09] using wpa_supplicant works well though. wpa_supplicant.conf can take multiple network blocks to allow the card to roam easily [23:09] what is wicd? [23:09] i have probably 12 different blocks in my wpa_supplicant.conf [23:09] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] well. i need to connect to my AP [23:09] ? [23:09] i am using someone else's ap :P [23:10] with no encyption [23:10] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:10] HELL YEAH POWERRANGERS IN HIGH DEFINITION [23:10] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Ha [23:10] <3 mythtv [23:10] i should change my nick to pruney [23:11] that is a very horrible mental image [23:11] nullboy: how should my wpa_supplicant look like? [23:11] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] lima: what type of encryption [23:11] nix_chix0r: no, change it to pruity (pretty) [23:11] :P [23:11] nullboy: haha. i am not even sure :P [23:12] spook, do you want me to just tell the bf i'm moving to australia [23:12] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] lima: it's your AP and you don't know the encryption? [23:12] this is going to go poorly [23:12] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:12] i'm done [23:12] nullboy: hehe [23:12] nix_chix0r: lol, i'm not flirting. just trying to be nice :) [23:12] i'll do it! i'll eat vegimite and kiwis [23:13] nix_chix0r: uh, why? [23:13] nullboy: any way to figure that out remotely? [23:13] i hate snow:( [23:13] nix_chix0r: i love snow. [23:13] nullboy: lol [23:13] trade ya [23:14] lima: of course there is but you won't be able to [23:14] jrd (n=jrd@ip68-3-48-188.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [23:15] kismet and airodump are both capable if determining the encryption and key methods [23:15] but it is YOUR access point so you should know wtf you configured it to do [23:16] i just used tomato's default settings [23:16] nix_chix0r: but i want to live in japan [23:16] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:16] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] hold on [23:17] kk [23:17] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:17] HOLY SHIT ITS ALPHA FROM THE FIRST POWERRANGERS [23:17] have the shuttle pcs gotten any better over the years. [23:17] they used to over heat [23:18] spook: Where are you watching this? [23:18] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] agentc0re: australia [23:18] nullboy: PSK + TKIP [23:18] whatever that means [23:18] ok [23:18] that's wpa(1) [23:18] one sec [23:19] nix_chix0r: howabout we elope to japan? half the year its hot, other half its cold [23:19] spook: On a website? [23:19] no. its wpa2 [23:19] agentc0re: on free to air digital HD tv [23:19] lol spook deal [23:19] this should do it: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10302 [23:19] [##slackware] [23:20] lima: TKIP is not WPA2 [23:20] let me check this again. I am sure its wpa2 [23:20] WPA2 requires CCMP aka AES [23:20] mixed mode uses AES+TKIP [23:21] but it doesn't matter [23:21] that config i posted covers both [23:21] lines 7,13,21,25 in that paste need your attention [23:22] nullboy: it says Secury: WPA2 Personal [23:22] encryption: TKIP [23:22] but there's also an option for AES [23:22] that's mixed mode [23:22] true WPA2 requires AES [23:22] ok [23:23] and again...it doesn't matter because the config block i posted will do both [23:24] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [23:24] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] also note lines 26 and 38 [23:25] my system likes those values. try them like that first and if you have issues play with those two timeouts [23:26] lima (n=lima@adsl-76-192-246-145.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:26] is your interface wlan0 ? [23:27] ouchy [23:27] he missed the juicy secret [23:27] ok, after you have your config files in order try this: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart [23:32] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:36] lima (n=lima@adsl-76-192-246-145.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] lima: fail or win? [23:36] ok. the authentication and association process seem to work [23:36] but when I try to get an IP with dhclient.. it says network is down [23:37] nullboy: fail [23:37] you shouldn't need to try, it should work automagically [23:37] i pasted rc.inet1.conf blocks and wpa_supplicant.conf blocks...if you used the same options in rc.inet1.conf if would get an IP automagically [23:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] ah [23:39] nullboy: can you give me that url again. lost it [23:39] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] notice that the rc.inet1.conf block i posted is for block [4], make your block [4] look this this but use your information http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10302 [23:40] this/like [23:40] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:48] great [23:49] so now three sony vaios and an acer aspire on base, as well as my old toshiba, run linux [23:50] my evil plan is beginning :D [23:50] minions everywhere. [23:51] lol [23:51] if i had known the acer aspire laptops were so zippy with linux, i would've been tempted to buy one myself, but as it is, i got a 13" sony vaio c series used for the same price [23:51] i may get the extended battery for it though .... [23:52] i need new batteries for my laptop too, both my main and my secondary are done [23:53] i'd get another battery for my old toshiba but it's a dinosaur. pentium-M 1.5ghz [23:53] it's so old i'm losing screws out the bottom of it [23:53] i mean, that says a lot for the brand, at least for the laptop itself [23:54] although toshiba hard drives don't have a good reputation in terms of longevity [23:54] but still, in laptop years, by 5 years old, it's time to move on (which i did) [23:54] I'd trade my Sony Vaio for a case of good beer. It's a piece of shit. [23:55] what are the specs? :D [23:55] i'd spec out for high hops and ABV ~ 6-9% [23:56] core2duo 2.4Ghz, 3Gb ram, 320Gb sata hd, 15.4" widescreen [23:56] dvd burner [23:56] danc3, you've got to be kidding if you'd trade a case for that [23:56] well, yes I was kidding probably, but it's still a piece of shit [23:56] it sits unused now, since I got a Dell XPS [23:56] much better [23:57] the dell XPS and D series are solid units [23:57] yeah, I love this M1530 [23:57] i worked on a sony laptop a few weeks ago and it seemed cool [23:57] i wasn't used to the keyboard but the touchpad had a nice texture [23:57] danc3, what linux-related issues have you had with your sony? 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