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[00:33] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:41] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [00:45] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-153.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] Blue_Slacker86 (dfh@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:46] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-221-80.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [00:47] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:48] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:49] a quick question, i set up a directory with default acl premissions rwx to user joe... now joe can make a new directory in this direcotry and remove the inherited acl permissions... how do i disallow joe from doing this? 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[01:02] maybe selinux could provide permissions fine grained enough for that, but i dont know [01:02] but they can only change its groups, a user can't change the owner of a file [01:02] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-167-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:02] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.213.18) joined ##slackware. [01:03] oh well extended is much more flexible, but that you'll have to look up [01:04] and they can only change to groups that they belong to [01:04] Skywise: there is 'mask' in the getfacl output... maybe that can be used... [01:05] is there something specific you want to prevent? [01:06] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Skywise: well i'm talking about a directory for sharing stuff amongst users... i don't want a user to be able to put stuff in and then change permissions and stop sharing some of their stuff [01:08] you can control that with your ftp daemon [01:09] Skywise: yeah... it seems that would be the best way [01:10] you can give create permission and revoke delete/modify permissions [01:10] but that means you'd have to clean up any incomplete files [01:12] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Skywise: just out of interest... is there a way to prevent delete with acl... or only allow apend to files? [01:17] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] weirfgh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232.dynamic.dejazzd.com) left irc: Quit: Quit [01:18] it seems that the sticky bit can be used to prevent deletion... [01:21] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-60-209.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:42] rworkman, lies! 8-P [02:43] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:44] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:45] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:50] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] when i want to make blokkal pkg i great this http://pastebin.com/d803e623 error , I can repair it [02:54] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:56] macius (~macius@i209-195-75-101.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) joined ##slackware. [02:57] hello ladies ... did anyone miss me? [02:57] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [02:58] not able to make my recently formated usb working properly ...it keeps showing a lost and found directory inside [02:59] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:02] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] when i want to make blokkal pkg i great this http://pastebin.com/d803e623 error , I can repair it [03:04] weirfg (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:08] is this command correct or not ... mkfs /dev/sda1 [03:10] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-250.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:17] newbie2010: pretty sure you have to tell it which FS to sue [03:17] s/sue/use [03:17] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-182.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:18] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:20] i dont have a cd/dvd reader on a machine i'm trying to install slackware on. i tried using the usb boot method and as source, i supply a pre-mounted directory with a copied slackware dvd contents, but the installation just ends saying that it has completed installing packages without actually installing any packages.. [03:20] Shuren (~Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:21] damascenodiego (1000@187-25-131-30.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:21] damascenodiego (1000@187-25-131-30.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [03:21] slackaholic (1000@187-25-131-30.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[03:30] is possible to write a bootble .iso to a usb memory partition to make it bootable too? and are there any special tools involved? [03:31] newbie2010: it's not really an iso, you have to extract it and do smoe amgic to the boot dir [03:32] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [03:32] what i'm trying to do is having multi-boot partitions on the same usb stick and then install some boot-loader [03:33] slackaholic (1000@187-25-131-30.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:45] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:47] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [03:49] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. 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[04:11] hi slackaholic [04:11] lf4, _o/ [04:14] hi [04:14] bud [04:14] hope everything is going well for everyone [04:17] reeve (~reeve@p5B13ADF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:17] good morning [04:18] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.250) joined ##slackware. [04:21] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:23] hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) joined ##slackware. [04:33] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) left irc: Quit: velusip [04:42] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [04:44] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) joined ##slackware. [04:48] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:49] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:53] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:57] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:57] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-49-25.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [04:59] I am not so happy with amarok in kde4, what music players are people using on slack these days (I am using xmms right now) [05:00] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:01] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-105-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:02] grazymax (~grazymax@host94-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:02] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] urban (~urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [05:03] Nick change: urban -> Guest60731 [05:06] delt0r, i used banshee or rhytmbox on arch [05:07] reeve: havent tried either... will check it out [05:10] delt0r, if i remember correctly there is also a player called exaile which is similar to amarok [05:12] I think exaile is a Gnome app, an i didn't install the gnome libs--ie i don't want to run into dep hell [05:12] TheTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:14] right exaile uses gtk. but rhytmbox too. [05:19] grazymax (~grazymax@host44-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:21] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:22] reeve: oh.. well i see how i go.. thanks [05:23] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:23] delt0r, welcome [05:25] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [05:27] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.152.122) joined ##slackware. [05:30] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:31] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:32] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-17.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [05:35] i just read an article from 2007 about the slackware package utilities at http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/60326 [05:35] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.175) joined ##slackware. [05:35] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] though its from 2007 i do not know whether it is outdated. are there any newer or "better" tools yet? [05:36] http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/168-slackware/1427-slackware-package-management [05:37] nice day for anybody here... [05:38] slackbuild scripts are better tools for me! :) [05:39] slackaholic (1000@187-25-131-30.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:39] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.175) left irc: Client Quit [05:40] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] tick (tick@80.48.171.119) joined ##slackware. [05:43] sahk0: thanks, that looks very nice [05:43] slackaholic (1000@187-24-128-68.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:44] sahk0, thanks, but right know the site doesnt respond [05:44] reeve: must be you [05:44] does respond to me [05:44] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [05:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [05:45] reeve: in short all you need to know is slackpkg which is included in Slackware now, and sbopkg for compiling apps not in Slackware [05:46] slackpkg uses pkgtools which you can play with directly [05:46] strange, i do not understand why the site isnt loading [05:46] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.250) left irc: Quit: Will be Back......! [05:46] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:47] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [05:48] slackpkg.org , sbopkg.org [05:48] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-202.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:49] man slackpkg [05:51] sahk0, i tried sbopkg and got the same error with two different packages, here is one: http://nopaste.info/b719988e59.html [05:52] slackaholic (1000@187-24-128-68.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:52] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:52] slackpkg better choice [05:53] reeve: ask in #sbopkg. i dont use it myself [05:53] nor slackpkg for that matter [05:54] i use pkgtools directly [05:54] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:55] i'll try slackpkg. whats the difference of all these tool? i heard of slapt-get too. [05:56] slackpkg is too handle *only* packages part of Slackware [05:56] like stuff in patches/ etc [05:57] if you want to install additional stuff use sbopkg [05:58] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:59] i should only use one tool shouldnt i? if i do not there could be some confusion with updates right? [05:59] Nick change: newbie2010 -> brbash [06:00] slackpkg for packages from Slackware, sbopkg to build packages using scripts from slackbuilds.org [06:01] all right, thank you sahk0 [06:02] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-202.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:02] np [06:06] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:09] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: Goodbye - See you later [06:10] yea. One tool for packages in slackware repos, another tool for packages that aren't. Makes sense ;) [06:11] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:12] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[06:28] jailbox: seems like it's the one I was looking for, need to make it work now ;-) [06:29] hehe man the man [06:29] the package name is irrelevant, its its contents that count [06:30] [in bed] [06:31] jailbox: yeah, reading it but it looks like I have a hard time getting anything ;-) [06:31] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) left irc: [06:31] foma (~foma@88.227.87.78) joined ##slackware. [06:32] there is a tool on windows box that opened a shell (dos prompt) on another pc connected to the same lan ... what is the case in slackware? [06:32] there must be some command like ssh to that [06:32] rdesktop? [06:33] well, ssh :P [06:33] even though i'm not sure about this but I believe it's not what i am looking for [06:34] rdesktop would control the desktop i can tell ... while i need to execute couple of command and out [06:35] for ssh ... do i have to server application on the remote machine? [06:35] needs sshd [06:35] wine [06:35] well, the windows tool that i've mentioned doesn't require anything [06:35] just the ip address and bam [06:35] you're in [06:36] I'd be surprised, it most probably requires something that is running as a service [06:36] or a backdoor of course :-) [06:36] no it's basically and a network inventory tool [06:36] or a guest account [06:37] there _has_ to be something listening [06:37] maybe guys i didn't do alot of digging into what is exactly using on the other end but i'm sure it worked for me on every windows box i tried it on [06:37] what's a good command to list the largest files on my drive in order? im up to 100% disk usage... [06:37] we'll see brb [06:38] brbash: the amount of things running on windows by default is hard to believe [06:38] epoch: man find(1) [06:38] sahk0, man, you're helpful [06:38] Action: epoch tips hat [06:39] and if you can get a shell prompt for each computer on a network, that's definitely a security problem [06:39] Mick_ (~mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [06:41] sahk0, here is the message i got because of the "missing" libconfuse: http://nopaste.info/c6d3162832.html [06:41] i do not know how to set an environment variable neither to what value i should set it [06:43] reeve: pastebin the config.log file that is in the same folder [06:43] reeve: did you install confuse from sbopkg? [06:43] du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 20 #man find indeed. [06:45] find can also find large files [06:45] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. 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[06:52] Camarade_Tux, i do not no in wich directory sbopkg executes configure [06:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [06:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [06:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@93.37.157.116) left irc: Changing host [06:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [06:53] ok, before that: run: "ls /var/log/packages/*confuse*" [06:54] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [06:54] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [06:56] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:57] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-78-80.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Camarade_Tux, it doesnt find anything [06:58] how did you install libconfuse? [06:59] sbkopkg -i confuse [07:00] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:00] are you sure it actually succeeded? [07:00] i thought so... [07:01] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [07:01] i'll install it again and check what it does [07:01] oh nooooeeees: slackware.com down means slackware.com/~alien down too =/ [07:02] but not connie.slackware.com/~alien :-) [07:03] Down? Hmmm [07:03] Only the website perhaps? [07:04] well, I can't load http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vde/ [07:04] Yes I can see that now [07:04] I am logged on to the server nevertheless, so it is probably only the apace process [07:04] alienBOB: it times out here... [07:05] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:05] ftp still working too [07:06] back, what do you mean Camarade_Tux? the amount of things runing on windows by default are hard to believe but none of them were supposed to grant access to command prompt [07:06] ftp is another box, isn't it? [07:06] at least another IP :) [07:07] Camarade_Tux, sbopkg -p doenst show confuse...so it seems i isnt installed. sorry [07:08] Camarade_Tux: I left a note for Pat V. so that he can fix that webserver. He'll be asleep now [07:08] sbopkg doesnt seem to work for me.. [07:08] sbopkg does not work with the slackware.com site reeve... it uses slackbuilds.org [07:08] is skype considered to be a security hole? it has an opened listening port on windwos xp [07:08] brbash: for instance, on windows, you have terminal services running by default (and almost as a hard dep): it lets several people (well, 2 unless you pay more xD ) connect on the same computer with different sessions [07:08] oh, and "remote registry" is fun too :-) [07:09] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.210.126) joined ##slackware. [07:09] alienBOB: ok, good :-) [07:10] alienBOB, well, i havent said it works with the slackware.com [07:10] have i? [07:10] I didn't know about the terminal service but I've shared the same funny experience of remote registry with you I guess [07:10] watched Avatar yesterday... really cool movie [07:12] alienBOB: btw, vde 2.2.3 has been released (your slackbuild is at 2.2.2) (download url is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vde/files/vde2/2.2.3/vde2-2.2.3.tar.bz2/download ) [07:14] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:16] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [07:17] reeve (~reeve@p5B13ADF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [07:17] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:18] i swear to god linux means cool :) [07:18] slackware means cool++ [07:18] foma (foma@88.227.87.78) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [07:19] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. 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[07:40] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:42] I think I forkbomb'ed myself =/ [07:43] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-49-25.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:43] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:45] how so? [07:45] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] if reeve rejoins, pls tell him to post in #sbopkg and wait awhile. I just got up. confuse builds fine in sbopkg so there must be some sort of pebkac issue. [07:54] weirfgh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) joined ##slackware. [07:57] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-105-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [07:57] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-54-49.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:04] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:06] nv4phil (~phil@c-76-114-88-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:06] ok, back, and thinking about it, it's prolly not a forkbomb: I was installing vde and the kernel failed to insert the ipfilter module (got a backtrace but I can't see it anymore) and then did a few things: started a kernel compile but stopped it because it was stuck [08:06] hello #slackware [08:07] then even dmesg |less got stuck, then my screen, I have sshd and mldonkey on the computer and I can ping the computer, and nmap it and get the expected ports, but... I can't connect [08:07] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:07] gm152 (~gm@d24-57-152-216.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:15] ferezini (~fernando@200-204-53-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:15] ferezini (fernando@200-204-53-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [08:16] is there a way to see what other IP addresses assigned on the lan i'm connected using ifconfig or netstat? [08:16] tcpdump maybe [08:17] ifconfig will show you only your computers addresses [08:17] netstat will only show addresses that your computer is connected to [08:18] I don't understand why it looks up but I can't connect with anything (ssh, telnet to mldonkey, webui to mldonkey) [08:18] nmap will do it [08:18] thanks [08:18] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:19] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:21] IrquiM (~irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:25] i was running wireshark monitoring my LAN when i decided to start firefox and look something up, well i have a simple html plage full of URLs for a home page and i notice in wireshark that firefox talks to every damn URL in that home page when i launch firefox, what is up with that? prefetching? [08:25] yup, prefetching [08:25] since firefox 3.5 or 3.0 [08:25] lets disable prefetching in about:config and try it again [08:28] DNS standard query lots of em two for every line, disabling prefetching did not fix it [08:30] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-56-173.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] allend (~allend@CPE-124-181-13-45.lns7.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:32] well, its official, mozilla's products suck [08:32] try restarting firefox in case it didn't take effect yet [08:33] still doing it [08:33] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:33] makes me glad i'm still running ff2 [08:34] i am going to dump firefox and use links and/or lynx [08:34] ff3 had a whole lot of stuff i didn't ask for and don't want crammed into it [08:35] what else than prefetching? [08:36] stupid muppet developers at the mozilla foundation [08:36] let see if seamonkey does the same thing [08:36] (maybe I don't mind prefetching, sounds useful if it doesn't prefetch big multimedia files) [08:36] yup, seamonkey too and i know i disable prefetching in seamonkey allready [08:37] i think prefetching is under the mistaken assumption that you can branch predict a persons browsing like you can program execution [08:38] are they actually fetching or just doing dns lookups? [08:39] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-56-173.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:39] it just does something called a DNS standard query, it does not download anything other than just 199 bytes of data but it is something i did not ask it to do and there is no visible way to disable it, it is just some stupid useless feature to me [08:40] I have a page full of links as my homepage, and almost 100% of the time I indeed open one of them, so the branch prediction works ;) [08:40] Although, I'd like ff to cache that stuff if allowed, and prefetch only if something is not in cache yet [08:40] its like saying "hey! are you there?" only to dozens or URLs in my homemade html homepage [08:41] ahh, okay! Only dns query :) [08:41] Then I wholeheartedly like it [08:41] i wouldn't worry about dns lookups [08:41] it could just be part of the logic in parsing/loading links [08:42] Why call it "prefetch" if it fetches nothing? :P [08:42] you're fetching dns data. [08:43] in seamonkey i did not enable pipelining and disabled keep-alive and disable prefetching and it is still doing it [08:43] speeds things up on isps that have slow ass dns servers [08:43] soo, how can i disable it spook? [08:43] Pig_Pen: shrug, who knows? [08:43] spook: kinda, I think of it as maintaining a local address book [08:44] i have bind setup on my router pc to cache queries. [08:44] if there was a tag i could put in my homemade html homepage to stop it would be good enough [08:45] use bookmarks? [08:45] MReimer_ (~chatzilla@p4FD4860A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:45] i like to keep urls sepatate from ~/.mozilla in case i need to rm ~/.mozilla [08:46] you can cp your bookmarks... [08:46] i think it'd be easier not to worry about it [08:46] I really don't get it: I can open a tcp connection to my remote computer but then, it seems that any packet is lost, could ipfilter do that? I didn't even have the time to configure it but I'm not even sure it actually managed to get inserted, and why would have it dropped my already opened connections? [08:46] Camarade_Tux: iptables? [08:47] were you trying to ssh using root and thats been disallowed? [08:47] Pig_Pen: you could use ips in your homemade html? ;). (or maybe put those servers in your /etc/hosts, I think that'd disable checking anything remotely) [08:47] i wonder if any websites or ISPs complained to mozilla about it [08:47] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:48] Pig_Pen: network.dns.disablePrefetch preference to true? [08:48] I like my personal home.html because that way the same links are easily available on every computer in the world [08:48] i don't see why they would, i don't think it impacts performance to any great deal [08:48] dns is pretty light weight [08:48] hehe, probably not ;) [08:49] 100 dns prefetches by 1000 users would equal to five people downloading some large image? :) [08:49] or one person opening a thick web page [08:49] i disabled prefetching in about:config and it did not make a difference [08:49] spook: blah, I think it's iptables fuck up, I'm still a bit puzzled but that's most likely [08:50] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. 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[09:19] dangazda (~dangazda@gprs7.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [09:21] http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [09:22] or google "slackware mirrors" [09:22] i would like to have original hashes too [09:22] huh? [09:22] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.210.126) joined ##slackware. [09:32] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.7) joined ##slackware. [09:36] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.45) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [09:44] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] gsan_ (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.210.126) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:46] hi folks, after upgrading the kernel packages from ftp.slackware.com, do I need to rerun lilo? [09:46] ok, better question - why did you update the kernels? [09:47] and, which kernels specifically [09:47] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] thrice: 'cause ftp.slackware.com has it [09:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:47] all packaged for me [09:48] from which kernel version to which? [09:48] gsan_: Are you running -current ? [09:48] niels_horn: no [09:49] your system is probably not bootable as is, fwiw [09:49] thrice: same version, different build [09:49] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:49] gsan_: So you picked up the newer build of the 2.6.29.6 kernel? [09:49] ok, i'll butt out, but the answer is: of course you need to run lilo when you update kernels [09:50] not upgraded yet, but i downloaded it from ftp.slackware [09:50] niels_horn: but yes on the version [09:51] gsan_: If you use the generic kernel, you might have to re-run mkinitrd as well [09:51] niels_horn: yes, indeed. thanks. so i will need to rerun lilo too then? [09:51] weirfgh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) joined ##slackware. [09:52] gsan_: yes, first mkinitrd, then lilo [09:52] great, thanks niels_horn [09:54] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:57] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: Goodbye - See you later [09:57] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [10:02] I try, now, put apache in chroot, but show me bad user name... [10:02] and in /chroot/httpd/etc has passwd and group file. [10:02] already tried daemon, apache, root, with user, but nothing. [10:02] deja vu [10:03] I sweqr I saw these same three lines last night [10:03] shawn (~shawn@pool-70-105-231-216.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] shawn (~shawn@pool-70-105-231-216.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.46.178) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:06] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:07] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:10] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [10:10] PsYkHe, the username is configured in httpd.conf [10:10] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:10] you could try nobody [10:11] or www [10:11] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:11] yes, is configured in httpd.conf and has in passwd and group file. [10:14] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:27] gsan_ (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:27] stunix (1000@85.19.183.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:28] soa (~zett@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:28] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:29] Blue_Slacker86 (~d9db9372@gateway/web/freenode/x-rznnxrdimdqotgiv) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] stunix (1000@85.19.141.194) joined ##slackware. [10:32] so, there's a social networking site i use. i found 3 bad security/privacy problems yesterday and contacted their web team. their response? delete my account [10:33] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] sounds wise to me [10:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:34] i hope you're joking. [10:34] why would you stay on a site with such risks [10:34] they prolly don't maintain or develop their software, and don't have the means to fix such problems [10:35] no no, i'm saying they deleted my account overnight [10:35] as well as the 2 other people who use the site from my IP [10:35] militant: now, you have to tell us which website :-) [10:35] their site, their resources, their right to do so [10:36] ardya: actually it's a site that involves a fair amount of $$ and i read over their TOS and there's nothing i've violated [10:36] fatalnix_ (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] fatalnix_ (fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left ##slackware. [10:36] Blue_Slacker86 (~d9db9372@gateway/web/freenode/x-rznnxrdimdqotgiv) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:36] how much money have you given them [10:36] on top of that, i didn't USE the security issues. i contacted support and notified them of them [10:36] kytan (~shawn@pool-70-105-231-216.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] i'm sure theres a clause in there where they can cancel your account for any reason or no reason at all [10:37] ardya: i pay 13/mo for 2 years now for a VIP, so does my fiancee, so does my housekeeper, and we all pay for premium services and extras there too. [10:37] ok [10:37] between the girl and i it's been around 1400 bucks in 2 years [10:37] file a civil suit then [10:37] if you're spending that kinda cash, setup your own site [10:38] fatalnix hi [10:38] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.3.188) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:38] all it takes to set one up is a domain name and a webserver [10:39] i'm just amazed. what kind of site deletes a longstanding, good user and a paying customer, when he points out that a simple URL edit gives access to blocked/private profiles, lists, and other info [10:39] the kind that taks your money, and deletes your account [10:39] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:39] trying to guess someone else's motivation is a futile endeavour [10:41] thats prolly some shortcut or kludge they use and now that you've seen it, they still wanna keep it and instead got rid of you [10:41] so the responsible thing to do would be to publish the exploit on a 0-day site so they have to fix the problem [10:41] but it's not [10:42] it's a problem other users have asked about, i found out, AFTER posting my issue to them [10:42] it allows you to simply edit a member ID # into a url to see just about everything except their front page. [10:42] well consider it an opporunity to find another way to waste time [10:43] and also found a way to apparently fetch someon else's chatbox, though i don't know if it works because i wouldn't try it [10:44] on the otherhand, maybe they don't appreciate a 3rd party security audit [10:44] i wasn't attempting to. i found it by accident. i just dropped my fiancee's ID # into the url to pull up her thing, as a shortcut, and then realized i wasn't logged in [10:45] but still was able to access it [10:45] oh well [10:45] i don't think you're in the wrong [10:45] i just don't think theres a thing you can do about it [10:46] and you souldn't put your trust in a site with such holes [10:46] if I wanted to make my wireless card an access point at a place with only hardware so could get my ipod online, would I have to create an adhoc? [10:46] thinking of going to a friends house later but they dont have wireless [10:47] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:48] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [10:48] if they don't have wireless you're going to have to use a cable [10:48] not if I can run dhcp over the wireless card and Connect through that by making my laptop the access point [10:48] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [10:49] but ive only done the opposite, bridging the wireless connection to the ethernet port. plus thats a bit less involved I think [10:49] anyone knows how to create hotkeys for adobe flash player in mozilla? [10:50] like pause, forward video... [10:51] I think I found what I need [10:51] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:52] I can use hostapd on a bridged nic I believe, that will work excellently [10:53] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [10:55] necropresto (~necropres@unaffiliated/necropresto) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: Goodbye - See you later [10:59] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.92.115) joined ##slackware. [11:02] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:03] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E328B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] confusid (~confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [11:04] confusid_ (~confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:25] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:25] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:27] Ijust found Slackware Linus Unleashed 3rd pdf on lzu.edu.cn [11:27] linux* [11:28] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:28] Cann0n_ (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Cann0n: what is salix/ [11:29] ? [11:30] It's a slackware based distro with dependency resolution and slapt-get repos [11:30] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::525d) joined ##slackware. [11:30] ah [11:30] vehn_z1 (~vehn_z@62.133.183.22) joined ##slackware. [11:30] thank you [11:31] From what it appears, salix = slackware + xfce with a hint of cheesy art and a dash of that ubuntu package management. [11:31] s/ubuntu/debian [11:31] or that. [11:31] I haven't used Debian in probably 9 years. [11:31] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:32] but you had to know debian created apt, not ubuntu :) [11:32] Cann0n_; the only slackware derivative that I've tried is vector. I had a brief look at zenwalk. I'm happy with Slackware:) [11:32] fatalnix [11:32] Yeah, I'm not. I can't spent a lot of time tweaking this laptop. [11:32] I like having apt-get or yum [11:32] test [11:33] vehn_z1 (~vehn_z@62.133.183.22) left irc: Client Quit [11:33] Makes things easier for me. [11:33] indeed, no shame in that [11:33] Cann0n_: I've used the debian-based distros, but, prefer the elegant simplicity of the Slackware way of managing packages [11:33] slackware's hardly an end-all-to-be-all [11:34] hitest: yeah, but I'm on dial up when I'm at home and DLing sbo's takes twice as long [11:35] Don't get me wrong, I *LOVE* slackware [11:36] you need to give a good reason to justify that *LOVE* [11:36] vhann_ (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:36] Cann0n_: Debian is a robust OS, but, I prefer Slackware [11:36] i have no need for automatic dependecies and stuff on my laptop [11:36] brbash: It was the first distro I tried, and have been regularly using it up for about 10 years. [11:37] every time i tried it, I ended up spending more time to get something i want than on slackware [11:37] Cann0n: same here, it's the first distro i tried for the last ten days [11:37] oh well, there were some orphan now and then trials but this is the first time i stick around this much [11:38] This is new laptop. I sat down last weekend and compiled a newer kernel just to get my radeonhd and wifi working... I thought, gee... 6 hours later, I thought, gee again. [11:39] when I rich the level of compiling kernel I'll be givining advises to alienBOB [11:39] LOL [11:40] Eric knows his way around Linux better than anyone on irc. That's just my opinion. [11:42] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.92.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:43] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:44] macavity (~macavity@212088073001.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:46] I'm excited about it [11:47] I don't know his name but it seems like his the BIG HEAD of linux around this irc thing or let's about slackware [11:47] about what? [11:48] that's alienBOB :) [11:48] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [11:49] I look up to guys like him. rworkman too. [11:50] Hell, half this channel or more are respectable members of our small community. #slackware is the greatest channel on freenode. [11:52] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.225.134.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:52] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [11:52] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:52] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [11:53] sluttyduck (~slut@74.215.29.198) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [11:57] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [11:58] how I can install Goldendict in slackware 13.0 [11:59] Cann0n_: too bad we are stuck in ##slackware [12:00] Cann0n_ (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:00] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [12:00] spook, why is that? [12:01] i'm being pedantic [12:02] # vs ## [12:02] kytan (~shawn@pool-70-105-231-216.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:02] thouch #slackware redirects here [12:02] ahh [12:03] and why is that we are in ##slackware and not #slackware? [12:03] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.83.206) joined ##slackware. [12:03] freenode rules. we're a topic channel not an official channel [12:03] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [12:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] actually, if #slackware redirects here, this should be even a better channel [12:06] how I can install Goldendict in slackware 13.0 [12:06] what is goldendict? [12:07] and you should try at first, and ask questions when you fail [12:07] zux: http://goldendict.berlios.de/ [12:08] Blue_Slacker86: slackbuilds.org stop repeating the same thing over and over. its just annoying, not helpful. [12:08] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:09] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Blue_Slacker86, looks like the software needs Qt 4.5 [12:10] i would use their binary package if i where you [12:11] Razec (1000@187-27-206-101.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:13] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] slackaholic (1000@187-25-182-15.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:15] slackaholic (1000@187-24-149-106.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:15] grow up spook and don't let single # sign make a big difference to you [12:16] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::525d) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:16] brbash: you act like you know me, which you dont. because if you did you'd know it was a joke. please keep that in mind in future. [12:17] with pleasure, just wrap it up and tell me everything I need to keep in mind for the future at once [12:17] is slackware.com down? [12:17] huh [12:18] my traceroute goes along way to here: [12:18] 28 sac-main.cwo.com (209.210.78.20) 213.537 ms 212.564 ms 216.470 ms [12:18] yes [12:18] zux: its not looking good. [12:18] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.83.206) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:18] grazymax (~grazymax@host44-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:18] just wanted to look at the changelogs.... [12:18] :( [12:18] brbash: for i in /usr/man/**/*; do zcat $i | troff | less; done [12:18] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/slackware.com [12:18] zux: they are on every mirror. [12:19] she's a maniacccc a maniaccccccccccc [12:19] zux: you should generally not use slackware.com for stuff that is mirrored elsewhere.. it is pretty loaded as it is [12:20] well i don't download stuff from there [12:20] zux: ftp.slackware.no [12:20] just that the i'm used to reading changelogs there [12:20] local and much faster [12:21] i have my own mirror also [12:21] allend (~allend@CPE-124-181-13-45.lns7.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] but that won't make slackware.com come up :) [12:21] zux: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [12:22] osousl is also the first to mirror iirc [12:23] and they have massive bandwidth [12:23] that is, most others mirror off osousl because it is much faster than slackware.com [12:25] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::52b1) joined ##slackware. [12:27] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [12:27] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:29] i need to install fribidi how i can install it [12:29] again... [12:30] Blue_Slacker86: with installpkg [12:30] slackaholic (1000@187-24-149-106.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:30] Idont have it pkg [12:30] MAKE one then. [12:30] Blue_Slacker86: yes, you do [12:30] /var/log/packages/fribidi-0.10.9-i486-2 [12:30] either that, or you did NOT do a full install [12:31] brbash (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] which you should, since you are asking basic questions answer in --> www.slackbook.org <-- for your convenience :-) [12:31] thank you all, and have a nice day [12:31] encore! [12:31] macavity: actually, Pat /pushes/ uploads it to slackware and pushes it to osuosl iirc. [12:32] as has been said before this is not a baby hand holding channel. [12:32] BP{k}: yeah, sounds reasonable [12:32] LnxSlck (1000@92.250.80.251) joined ##slackware. [12:33] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) joined ##slackware. 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[12:57] i had to delete~/.VirtualBox because a win2k install went in to an infinate loop :-B [12:57] in qemu theres a flag specifically for win2k. [12:58] hmm, what flag is that? [12:59] -win2khack [12:59] i am starting the win2k install over in vbox, hopefully it will work good this time [12:59] -win2k-hack rather. use it when installing Windows 2000 to avoid a disk full bug [13:00] is there a reason why tty6 in inittab runs in runlevel 4 too instead of the rest? [13:00] i gave it 10 gigs with the expanding as necessary option [13:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fatalnix: because inittab tells it to. read the comments. [13:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.23.51) joined ##slackware. [13:01] oh so that's what that bottom comment was about, I read that a week or two ago and was like, hmm... [13:02] i fixed my inittab to have 9 ttys and no X [13:02] mine is 11 [13:02] f12 is X [13:03] X is just a startx away [13:04] yeah but if you switch between them and run startx again it will complain because it's already running. [13:04] unless you know something I dont which is very likely :D [13:05] never had that problem [13:05] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.53.33.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:05] switch between using F# & using startx ? [13:05] I've never had a single computer which allowed me to run two x sessions (without xnest) unless I specified another display I think or something. [13:06] let me try it [13:06] yeah exactly, display already active for :0 [13:06] :1 [13:06] Why would I open another display if I can resume my other [13:07] why would you run two X displays [13:07] *shrug* [13:07] I wouldn't want to waste resources, if you know what I mean [13:07] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.23.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:09] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:10] peter_ (~peter@basictracks.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:11] peter_ (~peter@basictracks.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [13:11] i seen a gnome app once that did xnest good, it allowed you to log in as another user in a window complete with the other users default desktop and setting from their ~/ [13:11] xephyr > xnest [13:12] oh of course [13:13] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.79.23) joined ##slackware. [13:15] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[13:34] gah, forgot to tell him to run lilo...hehe [13:34] Asido (1000@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:34] :D [13:34] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:38] Action: ananke wonders what it means to 'repair lilo loading time' [13:38] that guy seems to ask silly questions all the time... [13:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:39] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:40] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [13:41] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:43] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [13:44] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. 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[13:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [13:59] to minimize writes to ccd. i'm on an eeepc [13:59] ssd, not ccd :) [13:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [14:00] ardya, no clue, not really sound savvy to be honest [14:00] yep, ssd [14:00] Avalloc (~a@port-7417.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [14:00] slackaholic (1000@187-24-128-4.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:01] goldenfox (~goldenfox@unaffiliated/goldenfox) joined ##slackware. [14:01] eilartt: what services do you run on an eepc so that would make a noticable difference? [14:02] goldenfox (~goldenfox@unaffiliated/goldenfox) left irc: Excess Flood [14:02] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30489.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:02] goldenfox98 (~goldenfox@125.5.53.98) joined ##slackware. [14:03] goldenfox98 (~goldenfox@125.5.53.98) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] from all those questions i guess there's no way to move them [14:03] epoch: alsa defaults to 48k sample rate (where hardware supports it). From what I can see, that sample rate isn't locked, so a players ability to play files at different sample rates shouldn't be affected. [14:03] goldenfox98 (~goldenfox@125.5.53.98) joined ##slackware. [14:03] ardya, it sounds like my music/youtube/everything is slowed down by about 10 tempo points [14:04] if that makes any sense [14:04] eilartt: there are some ways to do what you want, I just want to make sure it really makes sense, since this alter the system quite a bit and might come with risks [14:04] oh *everything* is? you didnt mention that before [14:04] im an absolute newbie when it comes to sound + slackware [14:04] yes, everything [14:04] and it came out of nowhere, that's the scary part [14:04] so its constant? [14:04] yes [14:04] you didnt mention that either [14:04] Nick change: goldenfox98 -> goldenfox [14:05] shame on me [14:05] ardya: deal's off on the leads...up until we get some family stuff straightened out [14:05] you said random;y, which led me top believe it wasnt constant [14:05] pprkut: i hoped there was a bunch of variables centralized somewhere, if isn't so i'll give in [14:05] well now that that's all over with and we have new knowledge... [14:05] nyRednek: understood, contact me when you're available [14:05] ardya: i'll likely be in mississippi first [14:06] eilartt: I'm 99% sure that there are no variables [14:06] i'll give up, i mean [14:06] ok [14:06] goldenfox (goldenfox@125.5.53.98) left ##slackware. [14:07] epoch: try locking alsa at 44k, no I dont know how offhand, or creating a default pcm device in .asoundrc that resamples all input to 44k [14:09] goldenfox (~goldenfox@unaffiliated/goldenfox) joined ##slackware. [14:09] goldenfox (goldenfox@unaffiliated/goldenfox) left ##slackware. [14:10] Greyhound_ (Greyhound@79.114.26.141) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [14:11] aceofspades19 (~jordaneva@d75-154-228-99.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] macman_ (~macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [14:15] hi all [14:16] there a way to rename an iso .. i have an iso that i want to rip to a dvd but the lable shows it as DVD_Movie .. i want to rename that to the actiually name of the movie [14:17] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:18] basictracks (~peter@basictracks.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:18] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:18] why wouldn't mv work afterwards? [14:19] slackie (~x@87.196.199.86) joined ##slackware. [14:19] basictracks (peter@basictracks.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [14:19] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:21] thrice`: he's looking for a way to modify isos. mv doesn't really help there ;) [14:21] macman_: given that iso is by definition reqad-only, you'd have to remake it, and set a custom label [14:21] oh, I thought he meant the output file [14:23] ardya: how do i remake it ? [14:23] how did you originally make it [14:25] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] ardya: dvdshirnk via wine [14:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:28] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-111.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] alienBOB: Hello , i want to make lazarus pkg but when i want to make it i get this (http://pastebin.com/d1ed44db0) error how i can repair it [14:32] ardya: any ideas ? [14:32] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Blue_Slacker86, do you have all dependencies? [14:33] i just copied the audio_ts and the video_ts folder to the desktop .. how do i make a new iso an copy those files into there [14:33] file is 3.5 gigs [14:33] zux: yes I have all of theme [14:33] correct slackware version? [14:33] Anyone successfully connected a Windows Server 2008 machine to a samba PDC? I'm having some serious trouble here and could use some pointers. [14:33] zux: 13.0 [14:35] brbash (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:35] Blue_Slacker86, well then i have no idea... [14:35] Alan_Hicks: I always thought samba had some interop. issues with later versions of Windows. Especially as PDC [14:35] got a lucky rabbit's foot? [14:36] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30489.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:36] zux: tnx [14:36] i could try to install it on mine [14:36] eviljames: Yeah well, I'm gonna make it work one way or another. :^) [14:36] brbash (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) joined ##slackware. [14:36] we would see then if it's your system's problem, or the slackbuilds [14:36] Alan_Hicks: Just ditch Windows. I'm trying to convert my office to all-*nix right now. [14:37] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:37] It's not working because my graphics/design girls are so attached to adobe products... :/ [14:37] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [14:37] i have photoshop-7 running nicely in wine [14:39] Razec (1000@187-27-206-101.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:39] eviljames: This is a client. Why does everyone assume I have the option of ditching Windows? [14:40] Alan_Hicks, because flouride drives people to insanity [14:40] Alan_Hicks: Nobody assumes, everybody encourages. [14:40] eviljames: Just ditch your graphics/design girls. Problem solved. :-) [14:40] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:40] i thought eviljames ditched girls and moved over to men years ago [14:40] Alan_Hicks: I'd ditch one of them... but the other is damn cute, and then add on the french accent and .. well, I'm sure you know where this is going. [14:40] jeev: It's a platonic relationship. [14:40] jeev: ahahahhahahahahahahahah awesome. [14:41] jeev: I got lit up :D [14:41] yea [14:43] im so afraid to do indexing and stuff on my SSD drive, due to a lot of writing to the drive [14:43] but i should be ok, no ? :? [14:44] yeah, they're supposed to be good for a few hundred thousand read/write cycles [14:44] Blue_Slacker86, did you read the README on the lazarus package? [14:44] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:44] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [14:44] jeev come back in a few weeks and tell us when that SSD goes tits up [14:45] few hundred thousand?!?! [14:45] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:45] this thing aint going tits up, i have another ssd in my laptop -- although i dont use it often, it hasn't gone tits up yet and it's a lesser brand [14:45] jeev: Yeah, but it uses some sort of BS algo that spreads the writes across the drive better [14:46] some wear levelling algo [14:46] Blue_slacker86, run away when i was just going to help him.... [14:46] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [14:46] tjhis is the intel drive, it better be good [14:46] i might swap it out for a crucial next week when they come out [14:46] ahh he's back [14:46] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:46] Blue_Slacker86, i got the same error before i installed the dependencie mentioned in README [14:47] seems to build ok now [14:47] zux: what? [14:47] that lazarus package [14:48] i have 100k emails in outlook that need to be indexed [14:48] jeev: how is the intel drive anyway? does it absolutely scream? [14:48] oulook? what's that? [14:48] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] yea it's pretty fast [14:49] zux: it would be the industry leading email platform. [14:49] although i use thunderbird primarily, i use outlook for a secondary [14:49] outlook+exchange is what keeps MS firmly in the corporate desktop market. and not having a comparable solution is what keeps linux out. [14:49] i'd say industry breaking not leading [14:49] You might say that, but you'd be way off base. [14:50] zux: As soon as you convert the 500,000+ desktop machines for a corporation like GE away from Outlook, you can say it is not industry leading (or if you prefer, industry standard). [14:50] Blue_Slacker86, yes, after installing the dependencie lazarus builds and installs ok on my box [14:51] I believe that outlook itself is plain zero without the exchenge part [14:51] if you use it on pop3 or imap... [14:53] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [14:55] zux: you're correct there. [14:55] zux: then it's just a crappy email client. [14:55] zux: what dependencie need it [15:00] brbash (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:01] eilartt (~matteo@151.66.177.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:01] brbash (~newbie201@41.252.1.131) joined ##slackware. [15:02] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] heya,slackers [15:04] heya MLanden, how are you? [15:05] doin' fine thanks fire|bird.....just doin' some upgrades..yourself? [15:05] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:06] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::52b1) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:10] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:10] brb [15:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:13] any simple way to turn grep output into a command? not add it as arguments or variables, but have the line grep finds be immediately executed? [15:13] `grep whatever` [15:14] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] adaptr: no go. a simple example of what i'm trying to do would be to grep my .bash_history for a line i used a day or two before, and have it execute that line as a command as soon as it finds it [15:15] are you sure that's what you would want to do? [15:15] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:15] eviljames: it's a poor example. but yes, i'd like to know how to do it [15:15] militant: prove it [15:16] well, supposing it catches a janitorial command, such as an rm -rf [something] and clobbers, say ~/sources or something equally valuable? [15:16] adaptr: prove what? i ran 'grep whatever filename' and it returned nothing, nor was what it found executed [15:16] militant: prove that grep returns anything first [15:16] eviljames: i understand the risk. i'm just curious how to do it [15:16] adaptr: the command without the quotes finds the relevant line in the file [15:17] not 'grep whatever filename', `grep whatever filename` [15:18] oh hey that worked [15:18] thank you [15:18] mmm ? [15:20] it's sorta like. i have some things like synergy that i only want to start sometimes. but the commandline for them is annoying. so i don't wanna put them in my autostarts, and i enjoy the idea of keeping a text file with lines like those that i can just grep and execute, no copying and pasting or typing them out [15:21] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:22] militant: foo() { some annoying command line } [15:22] usually theres support for a private rc file which contains those parameters [15:22] Drop that in your .bashrc and then just run "foo". [15:22] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Alan_Hicks: hey now that is an idea. aliasing? so just typing 'syn' will do the deal? swanky [15:22] setting up aliases are easy too [15:23] militant: Yeah, but what I'm suggesting is more powerful than just an alias. [15:23] militant: thank me. [15:23] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:23] adaptr: i did thank you :) [15:23] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:24] militant: it wasn't too clear, after all your raving [15:24] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) joined ##slackware. [15:24] adaptr: my raving? ok. [15:25] militant: while Alan_Hicks suggestion is very handy, another route is ctrl-R (or maybe that's zsh specific) for one-off commands from the history. [15:25] in fact i said 'oh hey it works. thank you' [15:25] eviljames: that works too, isn't as slick but is very good to know [15:26] yeah, it's handy for things you know you put a bunch of flags on and stuff like that. [15:26] exactly. very good sir [15:27] that'll be $29.95 [15:27] haha [15:28] just make it an even $30 [15:28] psychology 101: People are more likely to part with 29.99 than $30.00 - because it looks smaller or some such gibberish. [15:29] eviljames: so you cheated yourself out of 4 cents [15:29] Well why not just make it $29.93, couple pennies lower. [15:29] giuppy (~giuppy@host251-162-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:29] sven (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:29] its because they ignore the decimal [15:29] Nick change: sven -> Guest36259 [15:29] well, because of the aforementioned 29.99 being so widespread, many people use 29.95 to appear even slightly lower yet. [15:30] they will discard the decimal rather then rounding [15:30] why not use 29.93? because you want to maximize profit, of course. [15:30] so someone would say its $29 rather then $30 [15:31] is that why walmart always appears to have random pricing schemes? [15:31] $6.73 for a t-shirt, and $2.58 for a 6-pack of soda? [15:31] yes, with odd ending digits so its harder to estimate [15:31] it also makes it harder to do unit cost averaging [15:31] slackaholic (1000@187-24-128-4.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:31] people have a problem with odd-ending digits? [15:32] actually walmart has a lot of .88 price endings. this is because consumers are used to .95 and .99 and react to .88 as if it were lower [15:32] yeah, they're not very good at math [15:32] I figured that was just dealing with multiples of 7 and 11. [15:32] that does not matter. its psycology. If its cheaper its more interessting [15:32] over here, unit-pricing is mandatory :) [15:33] one other trick is when grocery shopping, the largest size isn't the cheapest or most economical [15:33] the best unit price is usually the container just below the largest size [15:34] weirfgh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) joined ##slackware. [15:34] we have unit pricing mandated here too but it's in smaller print on the shelf's price tag, not on individual stickers on the items [15:34] Nick change: Guest36259 -> mr-S^b34 [15:34] they expect people to make comparisons between the smaller packages and presume the trend of savings continues with an increase in size [15:34] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:34] militant: true [15:35] it's how they try to avoid telling you altogether [15:35] yep [15:35] people don't read the ingredients either [15:35] the mandate is probably written as "has to be legible" [15:35] Action: adaptr does [15:35] i do too, i don't eat hfcs [15:35] you'll often be surprised how many more additives are in brand-products as opposed to whitelabels [15:36] Alan_Hicks: i put syn() { my command line } into .bashrc and i'm getting syntax error, unexpected end of file, when i reload .bashrc [15:37] you'd be even more surprised that making it from scratch tastes better and is cheaper then mass produced [15:37] Skywise: true, but often only for $large_batches, which may not be practical [15:37] doesn't surprise me at all. i love to cook and often make my own base ingredients and bases [15:37] err [15:38] yeah, we just made rice crispy treats with home made marshmallow, they're so good [15:38] militant: That means you did something wrong. [15:38] tuvok302Lappy (vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-111.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:38] Alan_Hicks: lol i assumed so. but i just stuck it in at the end of the file, and also tried moving it to toher places in the file. i dunno. *Shrug* [15:39] is there a blank line at the end of the file? [15:39] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:39] there was, i removed that too [15:39] put it back [15:39] no change. [15:40] k [15:42] do you have to login and logout for changes to take effect? [15:42] nope, . ~/.bashrc reloads it [15:42] then you have unmatched quotes, brackets, etc... [15:43] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-54-49.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:43] can't be. don't see how. it's only 'syn() { synergys --config .synergy.conf }' that's been added, when i remove it, .bashrc loads fine [15:43] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:44] with those quotes? [15:44] no [15:44] no quotes [15:44] whast the actual error [15:44] nvision (~nvision@e179134157.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:44] try alias syn="synergys --config .synergy.conf" [15:45] bash: /home/militant/.bashrc: line 103: syntax error: unexpected end of file [15:45] weirfgh (ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:45] pastebin that file please [15:45] would it make sense to encrypt your files using loop devices on a vps? [15:46] nvision: depends on what you believe to be the threat [15:46] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [15:46] ardya: ok but i warn it's not slackware. i use slack on my other two machines but my work laptop has to be plain and simple and just work. http://pastebin.com/m5c98b300 [15:47] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E328B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:47] (and i'm not leet enough for that yet :D) [15:47] missing the ending } [15:47] are you sure? i see there in the file [15:48] syn() { synergys --config .synergy.conf } [15:48] I can only see what you pasted. [15:48] ohh... i see it did cut that off [15:48] i had done a select all, guess it somehow missed the last character [15:48] but no, the } is there [15:49] ok try this: function syn() { synergys --config .synergy.conf } [15:49] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:49] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:49] janemba (~back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] ardya: same thing [15:50] ananke, basicly prevent curios employees at the hoster to sneaking around in mails which are stored there unencrypted [15:50] oh, and you should use a full path to the conf file [15:50] wouldnt hurt to use full path to command too [15:50] but I guess its not effective... sb who has access to the system up runnig doesnt care about file crypto [15:51] nvision: store the mail somewhere it's inaccessible to normal users. how or where is irrelevant [15:51] ardya: i made those changes. still no go. [15:51] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:52] 105m sweet [15:53] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:53] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] Skywise: using your alias line worked. thanks [15:54] militant: since you're not passing args, I'd use an alias instead [15:54] yw [15:54] adaptr, I dont see the sense of that... maybe I dont know enough of openvz (the virtualisation my hoster uses), but how does that prevent somebody with access to the host system, the read the files? [15:55] +to [15:55] now to add about 23432432 of those... bbl :D [15:55] why would anybody have access to the host system except the hoster ? [15:56] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:56] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [15:56] weirfgh (~ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) joined ##slackware. [15:56] some people are crazy and actually let people have shell accounts [15:56] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-49-25.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:57] hello #slackware [15:58] my initial questions was... if I can do that... e.g. an intruder on the host system [15:59] nvision: if there is an intuder on the host system, choose a better host [16:00] no, you cannot protect against that [16:00] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] if you have root, you own the system, game over [16:01] gui_ap (~guilherme@189.111.34.107) joined ##slackware. [16:04] giuppy (~giuppy@host251-162-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:04] well, I think I have to live with that then [16:05] militant, syntax 101: func() { progname; } [16:06] militant, notice the ; after the command. [16:06] he was only doing what he was told to do [16:07] Skywise, i know. everyone man bash :-) [16:07] lol [16:07] man bash is a novel [16:07] Skywise, /join #bash and read the howto and the faq. [16:07] why me [16:08] it's very practical stuff, scripting. [16:08] oh yeah, bash is an os in itself [16:10] bash is lovely [16:10] things like MONTH=`date +%m | sed 's/^0*//'` to get ride of leadning zero so one can use it for calculations in the script are fun [16:11] fau_ (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:12] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:12] slava_dp: ahhh, that would make sense. thank you [16:12] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.19) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [16:16] gui_ap (guilherme@189.111.34.107) left ##slackware. [16:16] Razec (1000@187-27-239-235.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:16] weedcrop (~weedcrop@unaffiliated/weedcrop) joined ##slackware. [16:17] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [16:18] High_Priest (~Mean@92.244.141.38) joined ##slackware. [16:18] hi [16:21] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:22] I have my eth0 connected to my cable modem and it gets the ip from dhcp (ISP), how do I set nameserver I wish to use without /etc/resolv.conf to be overwritten by dhcp from the isp? [16:23] disregard that [16:23] found it -> DHCP_KEEPRESOLV [16:24] amazing what a little searching can do. ;) [16:25] I first opened rc.inet1.conf but missed it somehow :) [16:26] macius (~macius@i209-195-75-101.cia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:28] troy (~quassel@jefferai.org) joined ##slackware. [16:28] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:28] alienBOB, rworkman: hey guys - we've got a kde packaging debate going on internally within KDE, and people keep mentioning slackware [16:29] oooh, where at ? [16:29] we're trying to determine, while in the process of migrating to git, to keep our larger modules, or do per-application splitting on the repo level [16:29] thrice`: kde-scm-interest mailing list [16:29] troy: Pat weighed in on that on the packagers list [16:30] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.98.4) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:30] what are the kde people saying about slack? [16:30] weirfgh (ksljdbfvi@68.232.112.232) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:30] troy: our opinion: keep the larger modules. Gnome and Xorg are NOT models. [16:32] Pig_Pen: well, the idea being that by splitting we alienate distros like slack :) [16:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.108.155) joined ##slackware. [16:33] rworkman: yes, we're aware (especially of gnome) of that being a bad model [16:33] i guess kde-3.x is dead now? no chance of keeping it maintained? [16:33] it died years ago [16:33] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [16:33] troy: then why would it even be considered? [16:33] thats sad, i hate to see 3.x go [16:34] rworkman: the reason for splitting would be due to shortcomings in git [16:34] rworkman: basically, occasionally a program needs to move between modules, which is fine in svn, but impossible to do in git while preserving commit history [16:35] rworkman: the workaround is to just keep everything in it's own module [16:35] then they never need to be moved [16:36] Well, that's a valid problem. [16:36] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] rworkman: we're also thinking of releasing single-app packages for windows/osx/LSB-compat-distros that can be singly downloaded and installed [16:37] do people seriously use kde on anything other than *nix? this whole push to windows and osx is silly [16:37] Action: NaCl looks around [16:37] f00barz (1000@125.25.128.159.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] troy: the *real* problem wrt packaging is unrelated to how the source repo is handled. If you guys continue to do "$module" releases (i.e. kdeedu, kdebase, kdegames, ...) that are presumably bundled from the smaller modules, then I suspect we don't care what happens under the hood [16:38] thrice`: I haven't seen any [16:38] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:38] thrice`: what wm do you use? [16:38] how is that relevant? [16:38] Nick change: f00barz -> foobarz [16:38] maybe we can focus on fixing other kde things instead of making it work on windows 7 :> [16:39] foobarz (1000@125.25.128.159.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:39] Guest11129 (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [16:39] rworkman: well, we'd have a bunch of small modules, with an intelligent naming scheme - so kde-games-patience, kde-games-konquest... etc. - so you can tell what belongs in what module just by the meta name [16:39] I have no problem with the cross-platform work on kde, and besides, fussing about that doesn't help, even if it *is* partly related [16:40] troy: but would distros have to download seven hundred source tarballs then? [16:40] This smells kind of like xorg. [16:40] ding ding [16:40] NaCl: yeah [16:40] xorg package granulation is awful. [16:40] Xorg has become a bitch to maintain because of that very thing. [16:40] Pretty much the only option for most normal users is full install of the set. [16:41] Am I really good at stating the obvious or something? :P [16:41] it's pretty nice to be able to grab only 5 or 6 kde* modules [16:41] Yes indeed [16:41] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:42] rworkman: we'd probably have a well defined manifest, to make things easier on the distros [16:42] worse i think kde should be dumped like gnome was, then make xfce the default [16:43] xfce wouldn't cut it for me. [16:43] troy: I don't think you guys understand just how much more work that is :) [16:43] rworkman: well, I build kde myself normally :) [16:43] Guys, this is not a discussion about dropping kde or making xfce the default; let's not derail the discussion. Those are valid concerns maybe, but not for this discussion :) [16:44] troy: have you ever built Xorg, or even better, gnome? [16:44] I ran gsb once. [16:44] rworkman: not gnome, and the last time I build xorg was pre-splitting [16:44] That was really long... [16:44] I know that gnome is a mess right now [16:44] The latest stuff requires Kits. [16:45] This ain't about the FucKits either. :) [16:45] arg: /opt/google/chrome/libnss3.so.1d: version `NSS_3.12' [16:45] xfce too :> [16:45] gnome has been a mess since 1.4 was obsoleted and 2.x became the standard, i feel the same way about kde-4.x [16:45] (not found) [16:45] in fact, in the kde discussion, we're using gnome as the example of what not to do :) [16:45] troy: seriously, you should pull all of ftp.x.org/pub/individual/*/ (the latest releases), and then try to build it. [16:45] I got to make google-chrome work/ [16:45] rworkman: leave emotions out of it :) [16:46] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:46] thumbs: I build chromium from source [16:46] Emotions are important. [16:46] Yes, they are [16:46] bah! [16:46] NaCl: I used the slackbuild, and I had to link all the nss libs [16:46] I'll share with you my emotions when installing xorg on Slackware... and I haven't even ever built it! [16:46] thumbs: have seamonkey from patches/ ? [16:46] fire|bird: let me see. [16:46] thumbs: Can't help there, if you do a chromium build from source, you can link against your system's NSS [16:47] rworkman: anyway - the debate is about trying to find a way that we can do this while making the distros (like slackware) happy [16:47] thumbs: If not, install it, chrome won't work otherwise. [16:47] troy: I try :) Really, you'll get an idea of how difficult it can be for packagers, even with a fairly well-managed source repo. It's not as simple as just pulling the latest sources - lots of parts can't build with the latest versions, and lots of others require the latest sources. [16:47] NaCl: did you use a slackbuild for that? [16:47] rworkman: might be useful to chime in :) [16:47] thumbs: nope. Got the source, built it, then wrote a script that packages it. [16:47] rworkman: basically, if we can get something that's a split-package scenario, but slackware is still happy, it'd probably be accepted [16:47] NaCl: well, I'd like to make a nice sbo out of it, ideally. [16:48] fire|bird: I'll try that now [16:48] thumbs: the chromium source is *huge* [16:48] Well, you'll have to convince all 12 of us! [16:48] fire|bird: I installed http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/mozilla-nss/ already [16:49] troy: okay, I'll read over the list archives and join the list, and I'll link it to Pat and other team members. [16:49] rworkman: it's a lot of bikeshedding on there right now - we've pretty much hit a stalemate :) [16:49] this is too ontopic for me to comment [16:49] rworkman: anything helps :) [16:50] thumbs: yeah, it seems that isn't all that's needed, seamonkey from patches/ is needed too. [16:50] troy: red. [16:50] ;-) [16:51] fire|bird: ah, in patches it's 2.0.1, and I have 1.1.7 [16:51] rworkman: in kde's case, it most certainly is blue. [16:51] Action: thumbs installs [16:51] and white [16:51] fire|bird: I'll upgrade 1.1.7 to 2.0.1 [16:52] troy: :) I just joined the list. I've got to go afk now, so more later. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [16:53] slackpkg tells me I can upgrade 2.0.1 to 1.1.17 [16:54] you can upgrade anything to anything. :P [16:54] rworkman: thanks :) [16:54] troy (quassel@jefferai.org) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [16:54] but I never consciously upgraded to the one in patches/ [16:54] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Nick change: guitarman -> _guitarman_ [16:55] upgradepkg is much really an "replacepkg" [16:55] I'll run upgradepkg manually. [16:56] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:56] umm, is slackware.com down for you too? [16:57] thumbs: yes. [16:57] arg. Anyone have the osusl mirror link handy? [16:57] google is not down [16:57] http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [16:58] chopp: thanks [16:58] np [16:59] LnxSlck (1000@92.250.80.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:59] thumbs: apparently google is down for a select few. [16:59] lf4: heh? [16:59] tab fail :/ [16:59] ^^ thrice` [16:59] lol [17:00] www.slackware.com is my search engine, usually. [17:00] Action: lf4 walks off in shame, but goes to work with the 1000' cat5e cable that arrived today. [17:00] "osuosl slackware" would have found your site on google, I bet :> [17:04] fau_ (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:04] Avalloc (~a@port-7417.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- [17:04] fau_ (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-17.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] fire|bird: thanks, that did the trick [17:07] thumbs: you're welcome. :) [17:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [17:09] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-238-234.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:09] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] welcome back MLanden [17:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:09] thanks fire|bird [17:10] # 1 Background long Self test in progress ... - NOW - [- - -] :/ [17:10] should've finished 3 hours ago. [17:10] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-238-234.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] fire|bird: and look at that, it copied over the flash plugin from FF too! [17:10] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CF728.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] \o/ [17:11] thumbs: trying chrome unstable ? [17:11] sopas (~souphead@120.28.191.63) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:11] adaptr: yeah, and it just segfaulted on me. [17:12] everythign worked OOTB for me, including yoohootube and audio :) [17:12] it segfault opening facebook. Nice. [17:13] trying [17:13] pseudonymous (~icarus@79.142.229.158.static.knet.bolignet.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Atheism is a non-prophet organization. George Carlin [17:16] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:20] adaptr: my fault. I has symlinked FF's nssutil.so to /usr/lib [17:22] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] adaptr: initially, I tried to link most .1d files chrome needed from the FF package, but it segfaulted too. [17:23] adaptr: it appears that the ones from seamonkey 2.0.1 are much more stable. [17:23] yeah, I got those automagically [17:23] no idea how I got 2.0.1 [17:23] the slackbuild should make those symlinks, IMO. [17:24] thumbs: It does, it looks for missing ones and makes them, but it's something that doesn't work with seamonkey 2.0.0 and maybe older, I'm not sure. [17:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:24] fire|bird: ah, yes. I only had 1.1.17 then. [17:24] fire|bird: makes sense. [17:25] sopas (~souphead@120.28.184.60) joined ##slackware. [17:26] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nasa_scientists_plan_to_approach [17:29] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [17:30] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:32] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:32] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:34] is it possible to use xmodmap to map a combination of keys to a single caracter? (i wanted to map ctrl+c to cedilla and shift+ctrl+c to capital cedilla) [17:35] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:36] (all tutorials i read up to know always assign a single keycode to one character, but i really have no extra keys in my US keyboard, although I need the special characters of my language) [17:37] teckan: no extra keys to set as a compose (altgr) key? [17:38] i will use them as acute and grave symbols [17:38] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [17:40] ah, ok [17:40] i got it [17:40] thanks for the tip. [17:40] good luck [17:40] well, i did not actually [17:41] how can i set altgr key + c to be a cedilla? [17:41] because from what i am reading all i can do is modify one single key and assign a character to it when that key is pressed alone and when that key is pressed after SHIFT [17:42] teckan: IIRC altgr+,+c [17:44] brb [17:44] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:47] gem_cat (~GEM@207-119-10-32.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] is there an active site where I can download the cd isos for 13? [17:48] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [17:49] thank you Pig_Pen [17:49] ;) [17:50] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:52] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[18:31] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:31] teckan: can you type the acute c?..US keyboard here... altgr+,+c...ç [18:32] slackaholic (1000@187-24-133-89.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:32] is there a way to boot off a cd and get into my hd to fix a prob? [18:32] it's called "accent ecu", and "cedille" [18:32] gem_cat: with any liveCD that supports your filesystem, yes [18:34] (yes I know installing 13 will solve the prob) [18:34] which prob? [18:37] slava_dp (~slava@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) left irc: Quit: ^D [18:38] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.193.18.19) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:39] chowder (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:40] m0n-E (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-146-52.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:41] Hi, I'm new to slackware and I was thinking of installing it. However, the site seems to be down. Are there any other official locations to get a slackware install CD? [18:41] gem_cat, yea, why not just use the slack CD to boot with ? I think one of the pages you can view on boot actually tells you exactly what to type to boot into your system [18:41] chowder, some mirrors carry the ISOs, otherwise torrents are available from the official site [18:41] chowder: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [18:42] Hey, is it possible to get an SSL certificate for free? [18:42] thanks guys [18:42] askhader: sure [18:42] if you mean, one that has its root CA in all popular browsers, then no [18:43] you can self sign a certificate for free [18:43] you could even make your own CA and sign certificates with that [18:44] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:45] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CF728.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:48] chowder (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:52] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:53] ok i remembered how to hack my system but just erasing my bad file did not help - I will have to upgrade the whole system - thinks [18:53] Rix (~Rixiii@77-85-21-9.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:54] selimozbas (~selim@88.249.162.150) joined ##slackware. [18:57] i just used the install cd from 12.2 and mounted my hd - but agetty is now insane [18:57] doing the install for 13 will clean things up - i think [18:57] stupid operator error thrice` I now know _another_ stupid thing not to do [18:58] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] you can backward link libs but forward linking is not good - dont all laugh at once [19:00] pseudonymous, i did that - i read that a long time ago and it worked fine [19:02] it will be tomorrow before the isos finish downloading :/ [19:03] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:04] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:04] the best thing about this is my ol is out of town :) [19:05] when the cats away the mice will play [19:06] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [19:07] thanks again - bye [19:07] gem_cat (~GEM@207-119-10-32.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Vanishes with a small pop [19:07] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: \o\ /o/ \o/ [19:08] Nick change: selimozbas -> about [19:09] should not the next Slackwares be 5 and 6? [19:10] because... [19:10] about (selim@88.249.162.150) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:10] zeon (~selim@88.249.162.150) joined ##slackware. [19:11] patrick chooses versions numbers specifically to antagonize people keep track of what versions should be [19:13] well if it was a sequence that went back and forth, it would do that even more [19:13] all the more reason to actually have a 5 and 6 [19:13] but thats what you'd expect [19:14] I do not think we would expect it to interpolate [19:14] since Slack is released about once a year then he ought to use the last two digits of the year, waiting to see what 10 brings [19:14] or the year based on stonehenge [19:14] he keeps versions in line with other distros so people don't ask why slack's version is less the the other guys [19:15] psychology to appease the lamers [19:15] you mean redhat, right? [19:15] pseudonymous (~icarus@79.142.229.158.static.knet.bolignet.dk) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:15] i'm not really keeping track [19:19] if you built your own Linux from Scratch you can give it any version name & number you wanted [19:19] but someone else would still think its wrong [19:19] this is superDuper Linux version number eleventy billion [19:20] askhader, startssl gives you a ssl cert for free and has its root CA in many popular browsers (at least firefox) [19:20] see, i would of gone with version fourty hunnert [19:20] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:23] it is too bad they did not make Slackware 3.1415926535897 [19:23] Rix (~Rixi``@77-85-21-9.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [19:23] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) joined ##slackware. [19:23] they did, it was an incremental release [19:24] PiSlack [19:24] Slackware 5.1a existed. Like 5.2b [19:24] my math teacher kept saying something about pie square, and i had to correct him and tell him that pie is round and cornbread is square [19:25] dumb math teachers [19:25] And 6.{0,1,2,3}.0 were released as beta versions [19:26] The last version before 7.0 was 6.9.1-beta [19:26] Just check the changelog of Slackware 7.0 and you'll find all the intermediate versions. :) [19:27] or you can cut it in half and count the rings [19:28] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:28] Razec (1000@187-27-239-235.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:30] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [19:30] i finally did it, since seamonkey-2.x can do extensions like firefox and seamonkey handles plugins better than firefox i dumped firefox, and started using links -g for most my general purpose browsing and seamonkey for websites i can trust with plugins and where links wont work [19:34] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Pig_Pen: I'm trying chrome for a bit now. [19:35] anybody use irssi? [19:35] yup, irssi running here [19:35] mikl0: probably 90% of the channel, yes. [19:36] well i want to use it also but it doesnt run... i dont get an error or anything [19:36] i got it from slackware-current and did installpkg [19:36] does it exit? [19:36] checked that starssl has root certs in ie and chrome.. [19:36] no the process is still there [19:36] gn8 [19:37] nvision (~nvision@e179134157.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:37] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:37] i su and installpkg irssi and it says installed... [19:38] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] mikl0: do you have a lingering ~/.irssi/config? [19:38] so in my usr/bin/ i got irssi so i execute it and nothing happens [19:39] mikl0: do you have a lingering ~/.irssi/config? [19:39] irssi --connect=irc.freenode.net nick=mik10 [19:39] no i dont have one [19:39] ah [19:39] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:39] brb [19:39] thanks [19:39] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] --help always helps :D [19:40] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] same thing... do i have to be in kde ? [19:41] im in xfce now... [19:41] mikl0: no. [19:41] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [19:41] mikl0: strace the process [19:41] ok [19:42] i got nothin the process is not there after i execute the file [19:42] http://irssi.org/documentation/tips [19:42] hmm, its a mystery [19:43] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [19:43] mikl0: can you run it with gdb then? [19:43] mikl0: you are running it in a terminal, right? [19:44] yeah im executing the file in the terminal... [19:44] there isn't any output at all? [19:44] what way should i do this? i just want it to work [19:44] nope [19:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XcdG_sXZjA this is awesome! [19:44] what version do u all have [19:44] the newest one [19:45] 0.8.14 ? [19:45] yeah [19:45] and all u did was the things i said right? [19:46] to install it and use it [19:47] gdb says program exit code 02 [19:47] i rolled my own [19:47] maybe im missing some dependancy or i dunno what to think [19:48] u got the source and compiled it is that what roll ur own means [19:48] i roll a lot of my own apps, i change a few minor things like in links i made it so it will use -g even with X (you get the idea) [19:49] yup, like rolling your own cigarette [19:49] u did it to bypass the svgalib lock when in x?? [19:50] for the mem yah i get the idea cool [19:50] i am not sure links will use svga, i know it does png, gif and jpg [19:51] i didnt mean SVG i meant svgalib ... [19:52] Graphics driver to use. Drivers are: x, svgalib, fb, directfb, pmshell, switch virtual screens (svgalib and framebuffer) [19:52] oh well i guess the xchat is fine for now but irssi looks so cool [19:52] yup, i guess it does use it [19:52] Pig_Pen, yeah i does i checked it :) to make sure i know what u were talking about... [19:52] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] is there any way to find out what the exit code 02 means for irssi [19:54] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [19:54] you can launch screen before X starts and run irssi within screen switch to another tty and login and startx and open an xterminal and run screen -d -r then get irssi, and if you want to kill X for any reason, you can go back to the tty with screen & irssi and run screen -r and your right back with irssi in the console [19:55] screen basically makes any console based app independent of X when launched in screen in console mode, so losing X wont kill it [19:56] i did it from tty2 and i got a bug old error message [19:56] i have no idea what that 02 means [19:57] i have a big error msg [19:57] want ot view it? [19:58] Krux0 (~richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] if it is just a vague bunch of numbers and/or hex i wont have any idea what it means (like a BSOD in windows) maybe the irssi developers can decifer it [19:58] im looking for tool that performs backups of media files which are in a specific directory [19:59] no it has to do with perl5 [20:00] i think my dependancies for running it are messed up [20:00] how can i redirect output of the irssi program to a file to save it? [20:00] as it errs [20:02] irssi | and what program writes files? [20:02] i have no idea mikl0, when i get serious enough errors and if i can not easily fix them i wipe out / and start over, i keep a backup of /etc and /home is a separate partition so i dont lose anything important [20:03] slackaholic (1000@187-24-133-89.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:04] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:05] v8bull (~v8bull@75.140.102.24) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Razec (1000@187-27-242-58.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:07] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [20:08] Pig_Pen, ok thanks [20:09] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [20:10] got it it was irssi 2> err.txt ... > is redirect operator but it is not stdout its stderr therefore 2> [20:11] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [20:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [20:12] http://pastebin.com/d3f56c752 is my error is there an update to perl for slackware i might have my slack out of date [20:13] what slack version are you running? [20:13] v8bull (~v8bull@75.140.102.24) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:13] 13.0 ... but are there updates to any packages? [20:13] as i got irssi from current and i got slack from 13.0 [20:13] ive only been runnin for about a month i guess [20:13] always get the updated packages before running any apps, [20:14] ok this can be achieved using my favorite mirror and figuring out what needs updating or? [20:14] as a rule of thumb i never perform an upgrade on an existing system i dont want any cruft & kludge left over from a previous install borking things up, and since an upgrade takes as long as a clean install i am not out any time [20:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:15] ok so... 13.0 is fine and how do u konw if your packages are out of date [20:15] check /etc for any .new files, files that end in .new are waiting for you to manually upgrade the old files by the same name [20:15] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:16] Pig_Pen, cool im on it! [20:18] i dont know where u see the .new ? [20:18] if you dont see any files ending with .new then you probably dont have any that need upgrading [20:19] Pig_Pen, but how do you see this what application do u use [20:20] i am very interested to get the .new updates [20:20] i like midnight commander for browsing the directories, it is lightweight, works in both the console or any xterminal and includes a nice text editor with syntax highlighting [20:20] so you talking about my own filesystem to look for .new in my /etc ?? [20:20] type in mc in any terminal window or console [20:21] yes i know what is midnight commander [20:21] alienBOB, fyi I just followed your slackware:cups ... worked like a charm, except I had to go in to the cups interface and add 'nobody' (or whoever is set for the guest user) into cups -> printer -> allow users, otherwise other winderz pc on the LAN couldn't print. [20:21] i guess you can use ls or find [20:22] but where does the .new come from i am confused a lil bit [20:22] uhg, i'm so sick on my ssh sessions randomly ceasing to respond to input [20:24] sometimes when you download updated packages they include some config files that go in /etc and rather than overwriting the files already in place they have the same name except with a .new on the end of the filename so you got to find them and edit to taste if necessary and save the old one if you have and doubts and rename the .new to the proper filename [20:24] excellent explanation thank you [20:24] makes so much sense now [20:27] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CF728.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:28] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:29] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Client Quit [20:29] slackaholic (1000@187-25-140-201.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:29] i followed this tutorial to make cedilla available in my US keyboard and i made it through. however, everytime i reboot, the file gtk.immodules is replaced by its original version somehow and i get no symbol in firefox and all gtk programs again. anyone can tell me how to change the file /etc/.../gtk.immodules permanently? [20:30] i know a hack to fix it, a bit of a pain but it works [20:30] (the tutorial: http://phi.pro.br/hacks/#00004) [20:32] save a copy of a modified gtk.immodules the way you like it, save it as gtk.immodules.backup and put a line in rc.local to copy it over as gtk.immodules [20:33] Pig_Pen, it has to do with my perl it fails [20:34] i thought about that [20:34] but isnt it ugly? [20:34] hmm, thats odd, maybe remove slackware's irssi package and roll your own, worth a try since irssi is small and easy to build, use DESTDIR and makepkg to make a slackware package out of it [20:34] there must be a way to simply disable that gtk program no load at startup [20:34] i never said it was pretty teckan [20:35] Pig_Pen, thanks i have never made a slack packg [20:35] yeah, in /etc/rc.d/rc.M is a stanza for that gtk.immodules, maybe comment it out so it does not run on boot [20:35] xizut (0@189.83.18.237) joined ##slackware. [20:35] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:35] xizut kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: IRCing as root is dangerous. Please reference "IRCing as root" via google.com for further guidance. [20:38] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:42] LnxSlck (1000@95.69.41.201) joined ##slackware. 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[20:53] The mirror at tds.net gave me the bad irssi i got it from another mirror and no problem installpkg irssi...runs great [20:53] i dont know if anyone else can verify there is a problem or maybe my download from there got corrupt no idea [20:53] brb with irssi client [20:53] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:56] slackaholic (1000@187-25-140-201.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:56] facepalm with an iron skillet! [20:57] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] ok now im in it but only in tty mode... [20:58] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:59] i made a launcher for irssi in xfce to /usr/bin/irssi but it does nothing so i dropped to tty2 and works here [20:59] chmod +x your lawncher [20:59] or [21:00] xterm -e irssi [21:00] Pig_Pen: thanks i will look into it now again. brb hopefully. [21:00] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:02] irssi does not have any windowing in itself, it either runs within a console or within an xterm (gotta consider that) [21:08] slackaholic (1000@187-24-150-210.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:16] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CF728.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:17] arrr [21:17] It's not TLAPD [21:19] Blue_Slacker86 (~Blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: Goodbye - See you later [21:20] somebody here can tell me a good article talking about ext4 ? [21:20] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-anatomy-ext4/ [21:22] antiwire, thanks man [21:22] evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:22] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [21:23] How about that for some mo-fo'ing filesystem reading material [21:24] it seems they have lots good articles in this page [21:24] yeah [21:27] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] mikl0 (~mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:28] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Hey. [21:29] ibm has some really good write ups. [21:30] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:32] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:36] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:36] antiwire, i'm reading the article right now... [22:36] antiwire, but i have a question... [22:36] thrice`: I'm test driving Salix [22:36] Cann0n: I prefer slackpkg [22:37] site down ? [22:37] yeah, I got that too. [22:37] gui_ap (~guilherme@189.111.34.107) joined ##slackware. [22:37] antiwire, how can ext4 developers tell it support 1 Exabyte ? do you think they truly tested it? :P [22:38] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:38] hitest, me too [22:38] slackaholic: values are sufficiently large [22:39] NaCl, so... they round the value ?!?!?! [22:39] NaCl, may be more... may be less... is it ? [22:40] I don't know. Maybe you should try to type more punctuation and try to fill up an exabyte. [22:40] crazyhors (~gr@209.89.220.82) joined ##slackware. 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[22:46] Action: pupit sings: how deep is your love.. shalalala [22:48] crazyhors (~gr@209.89.220.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:49] when will kde4.4 in current? any ideas? [22:50] I don't think there are plans yet to inclued it. [22:50] XGizzmo, will pat alone test it? [22:51] no, alienBOB made packages [22:51] nice going on alienBOB [22:52] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/its-been-released-kde-sc-4-4-0/ [22:52] obviously, for -current, but you can try them :) [22:52] thrice`, i run current, so ok for me [22:52] thrice`, but i would like to w8 until it really goes into slackware current [22:53] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:54] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:56] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:57] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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