[00:00] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] for cmake it's usually install/strip [00:00] hmm, ok. thanks. [00:00] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.159.109.3) joined ##slackware. [00:00] I can'u seem to get the sound working on my normal user account on my slackware box? Does any have any clues? [00:00] y0 redtricycle [00:01] hey firebird619 [00:01] Nick change: firebird619 -> bluebicycle [00:01] :) [00:01] ^_^ [00:01] topgun21: run alsamixer and make sure things are not muted [00:01] topgun21: add your user to the audio group, log out and back in [00:01] (my answer assumes you do have sound working as root, just not your user) [00:01] I hope the slackware 13.0 kernel will support my IR remote for my laptop [00:01] Nick change: bluebicycle -> firebird619 [00:01] jota- (i=1000@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-1-30.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-97.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:02] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-95-1-30.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:02] firebird619: hahah [00:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Urchlay: i've wondered what a bass player thinks about the bass line in 'come together' by the beatles [00:03] hmm, lemme listen to it again, has been years :) [00:04] ohh, yah, this song [00:04] okay i figured it out tremulous [00:04] :) [00:04] antler: I like it a lot [00:05] Urchlay: yeah, it's amazing [00:05] lot of Paul's bass lines are really simple (maybe so he can sing too), this one he gets to show off some [00:05] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.176.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:06] antler: that one, I *am* going to look up [00:06] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-97.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] What package do i have to install to play my mpe3 filres [00:09] Urchlay: it's times like these that make me resent $deity, for $deity has given me love for song, but has also made me talentless [00:09] topgun21_ (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-97.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:10] I wonder about that. I think anybody who can appreciate music probably has *some* talent... [00:11] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:12] yeah, i'm the guy who wears a football helmet, sits by the big tree, and appreciates the sunshine. that's the extent of my musical talent. [00:12] :) [00:12] i can learn, i'm sure. but it's not *in* me. that much i know. [00:13] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] antler: wow, you have extensive talent. :) [00:13] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:13] why the helmet? afraid a branch is gonna fall? [00:13] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [00:13] firebird619: so that when i bang my head against the tree, i won't hurt myself [00:13] hahaha [00:14] I thought it'd be because of falling branches or pine cones. :P [00:14] Anyone know of a how-to to get a wireless card up and running in slackware? I cant seem to operate google very well tonight [00:14] hehe [00:15] antler: I found chords, but am having to work out the actual bass licks myself [00:15] <|Slacker|> lolwut, what card [00:15] |Slacker|, ummm i cant remember off the top of my head, its a netgear and im like 99% sure it uses the atheros chipset or something like that [00:16] <|Slacker|> install wicd then [00:16] Urchlay: can you tell by listening the number of strings on his guitar? [00:16] eh, not really [00:17] I mean I know the bass is 4-string, and nobody made 7-string guitars back then [00:17] oh? i thought four or six.... [00:17] right. standard bass = 4, standard guitar = 6 [00:17] sidmario (n=xxx@201-43-56-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:17] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [00:17] and the beatles AFAIK never used nonstandard ones [00:17] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.26) joined ##slackware. [00:17] oh... i thought bass came in six as well [00:18] cool [00:18] |Slacker|, i just looked it up and its the netgear wg311T [00:18] they do, but Paul didn't play one (anyway there are no notes in this song you'd need one for) [00:18] <|Slacker|> lolwut, slack 12.2? [00:18] |slacker|, yeah [00:18] Urchlay: you've heard mj's cover of that, yeah? [00:19] <|Slacker|> lolwut, have you checked the chipset? is it's atheros then slack supports it [00:19] michael jackson? no... is it any good? [00:19] |Slacker|, yeah it uses the Atheros chipset but Im lost as to how to configure it [00:20] sidmario (n=xxx@201-92-115-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:20] it's michael jackson; so (for me) any song is good. is it as good as the original? no. [00:20] <|Slacker|> lolwut, you don't need it..do ya have a wired network there or not? [00:20] Nick change: sidmario -> Guest52859 [00:20] you know the Aerosmith cover of it? [00:20] I kinda like that one [00:20] |Slacker|, yea I have a wired network here as well as a wireless, the card is in this box but I have cat5 running to it aswell [00:21] <|Slacker|> lolwut, alright [00:21] <|Slacker|> do slackpkg install wicd [00:21] <|Slacker|> connect the card, then run wicd as root [00:22] Urchlay: no, not yet. i'll have to visit my banger friend to listen :P [00:22] <|Slacker|> go back to you user and run wicd manager and be happy [00:22] :) [00:22] bryanlharris (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] aerosmith's one of those bands that has to get by solely on talent, cause they couldn't make it at all on looks (they're as ugly as the rolling stones or ZZ top..) [00:23] |Slacker|, Thank you :) [00:23] <|Slacker|> welcome dude [00:23] Urchlay: rofl so true [00:23] Urchlay: yep. Tyler is as ugly as sin [00:23] Urchlay: very true, although Steve Tyler has a purdy looking daughter ;) [00:24] oh hell yeah [00:24] hard to believe them 2 are related [00:24] agreed [00:24] (never seen the mother, but I bet she's hot too) [00:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebe_Buell [00:25] click [00:26] she looks like a cross between my landlady and this woman I used to work with [00:26] both attractive older ladies [00:26] clickaty-click! barba trick. [00:27] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:28] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [00:28] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [00:30] topgun21_ (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-97.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [00:32] whoa, it got quiet in here. [00:33] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] heh. I'm figuring out a song, the rest of 'em I guess are searching for liv tyler nekkid pics [00:34] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.26) left irc: "Leaving" [00:34] think I got "come together" good enough to fake my way thru it at least [00:34] cool [00:35] haha, they're all crashing google's servers looking. :) [00:35] not literally, just saying as a joke. [00:37] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.115.121) joined ##slackware. [00:38] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:38] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-132-35.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:39] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-133-216.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:39] ha ha, only serious? [00:40] :) [00:40] topgun21_ (n=topgun17@adsl-149-114-12.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] I am getting now sound again [00:41] Urchlay: how many songs are you trying to learn/figure out? I'm just curious. [00:41] topgun21_: good to hear. [00:42] topgun21_ (n=topgun17@adsl-149-114-12.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:42] firebird619: eh, a good chunk... but a lot of them are ones I used to at least sort-of know already [00:42] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:42] only ones I'm trying to get note-for-note are the ones that have a fancy bass part (like Come Together, or Pigs by Pink Floyd) [00:43] basically, there are 2 bands that are talking about wanting me as their bass player, one of which is 100% covers and the other is maybe half covers, half originals [00:43] slackware is so nice :D [00:43] i lovit [00:44] Urchlay: nice. [00:44] no idea if either one is actually making any money, but they're both really good and *should* be [00:44] Urchlay: speaking about simple lines, 'shine on you crazy diamond' (all parts) is simple, but sweet. [00:44] imo [00:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:45] the bass part's simple... overall the song is complex (has movements, like a symphony, and a whole bunch of instruments) [00:45] yeah i fscking love the layers [00:45] I used to collect live bootlegs of just that song [00:45] The only guitar I play is guitar hero. :P [00:45] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.78.212) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:45] I'm not a hero yet either. [00:45] firebird619: hahaha [00:45] some of which were recorded before the album came out (floyd used to work the bugs out of their new songs by playing them live, before recording) [00:46] firebird619: what do you play? keyboard, right? [00:46] Urchlay: learning to play, yes. [00:46] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [00:46] Action: P4C0 is an iron maiden fan ;) [00:46] not much under my belt yet, but slowing reading/learning/practicing. [00:46] err. s/slowing/slowly/ [00:46] heh, see if you can work out the keyboard intro to "light my fire" :) [00:46] hahah [00:46] Hmm [00:47] I do like a challenge. [00:47] it's the keyboard-playing equivalent to learning how to patch your kernel or something :) [00:47] Urchlay: no it's more difficult [00:47] wow [00:47] nice [00:47] P4C0: probably so, yeah. I'm not a keyboard player :) [00:47] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-156-235-97.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] antler: don't laugh at my guitar hero skillz. :P [00:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Urchlay: i'm guessing that you sometimes listen to Yes. [00:48] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.78.212) joined ##slackware. [00:48] antler: yep [00:48] I'd like to figure out the piano from Shindeown-Call Me. [00:48] Urchlay: niether do I, I tried it one... but it just gets harder and harder... at least with the guitar at some point you start to suck less, keyboards was really frustrating to me :( [00:48] ugh, s/Shindeown/Shinedown/ [00:48] antler: hmm, at one time I used to know how to play "owner of a lonely heart" on the bass, too... good one to resurrect [00:48] Action: firebird619 can't spell. [00:49] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "too drunk to stay here! cya" [00:49] 'roundabout' always comes to mind whenever i think of Yes. [00:50] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:50] yeah, that's a classic [00:50] Urchlay: you could always find a youtube tutorial. :P [00:50] I remember trying to figure out how to get my bass to sound like that, without using a pick [00:50] (no idea if the guy from Yes plays that with a pick or not, sounds like he does though) [00:51] hmhmh, how do i unpack a .TXZ ? [00:51] httpd-2.2.11-i486-1.txz [00:51] C00re: if it's a slackware package, you just "installpkg blah.txz" [00:51] Urchlay: a former professor of mine played the lute in his spare time. he brought his guitar one time, hooked it up, and played the intro. i could NOT tell the difference. [00:51] or perhaps "upgradepkg --install-new blah.tgz" [00:51] antler: damn, that's cool [00:52] Urchlay: btw, that install/strip did it with my digikam slackbuild, thanks again. [00:52] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:52] is that .txz something new? im used with that .tgz [00:52] eh, s/tgz/txz/ in my command above... but really you use them the same way [00:52] was in /current [00:52] C00re: yes, its a new type of compression method using lzma. [00:52] it's used in current. [00:52] C00re: yes, it's a new compression algorithm... but the contents of a .txz are laid out the same way as a .tgz would be [00:53] okk [00:53] does it work on my slackware10.2 ? [00:53] not bloody likely [00:53] no [00:53] ha [00:53] k [00:53] downloading the source then [00:53] and even if it did, your httpd package from -current would not run on 10.2 due to needing newer libraries [00:53] ok [00:54] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:54] hm, was 10.2 or 11.0 the last slackware that didn't come with HAL? [00:55] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:55] wb [00:55] haha, thanks. [00:55] lol [00:55] double vision... [00:55] I started konversation and didn't close pidgin. :P [00:56] I'll close pidgin, one of me is enough. [00:56] hehe [00:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:56] There, that's better. :) [00:57] I had to build a new konversation too. The kde4 version is quite nice. :) [00:57] that's a long nae [00:57] name [00:57] maybe it ought to be called k10n [00:58] interesting, this one has the option to speak out when, like, someone types your nick, etc. [00:58] (like i18n and l10n for "internationalization" and "localization" [00:58] Urchlay: haha, yeah. [00:58] wasn't there a kirc at one point as well? [00:59] vaguely rings a bell [00:59] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.169.224) joined ##slackware. [00:59] jota- (i=1000@190.6.6.247) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:59] http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/kirc.html [00:59] I like konversation and kopete. I've just been trying different things lately and finding what I like best. [00:59] I know I'll be sticking with kde4, at least for a long while. [00:59] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:59] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [00:59] 523.88 KB 1997-10-14kirc-0.9.5-04.tar.gz <--- wonder if that's the last version? [01:00] Nick change: gubbe -> gubbe_ [01:00] could be, konversation has been out a while, it maybe replaced kirc. [01:00] maybe they just renamed it [01:00] possible. [01:00] I never tried kirc. [01:01] Nick change: gubbe_ -> gubbe [01:01] you probably can't on modern versions of KDE, if it really is from 1997 [01:01] yeah, probably not. [01:02] g' night all:) [01:02] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.95.209) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] night hitest [01:02] nite hitest [01:02] night firebird619, Urchlay:) [01:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:03] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] firebird619: I like irssie [01:03] irssi* [01:03] redtricycle: I do too. I used it for quite a while. [01:04] Hmm, msn still doesn't work in kopete. It works in pidgin at least. [01:04] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:04] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [01:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [01:07] Oh no, I have a 95 ms lag. :( [01:08] Usually the only time I get a lag is when there's a netsplit nearby. :) [01:08] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Computer has gone to sleep" [01:09] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [01:10] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [01:14] antler: :P, I guess I didn't have the effects enabled. I get this: Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. [01:15] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [01:15] Hmm, it will enable if I uncheck wobbly windows. [01:16] Something isn't right with it. I got wobbly windows enabled, by just enabling it by itself without making other adjustments with it, but the windows don't wobble. [01:20] firebird619: you NEED the wobblies :P [01:20] I know. [01:20] I can haz wobbly windows? :) [01:21] does a window go semi-transparent when you click and hold it? [01:22] no [01:22] you lose. [01:22] :P [01:22] I have the effects enabled, but none of them are working. [01:22] logout and in maybe? restart? [01:22] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [01:23] i don't think that should matter. (it didn't in archlinux) [01:23] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Client Quit [01:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [01:25] yeah, that didn't matter the last time I used -current/kde4, I don't know what's going on. [01:26] you just couldn't wait for 13, could you? :P [01:26] NO [01:26] :P [01:26] Why wait. :D [01:27] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-74-69-172-241.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:27] you, a lazy man, could, but me? No way. :D [01:27] would you rather see a movie, or the making of it? :P [01:28] why not both? [01:28] yeah, i guess if you liked the movie that much [01:28] see the making of the movie, and then the movie when it was released. :D [01:29] and if I didn't like the making of the movie, and subsequently the movie, I could stick/go back to an older movie. :) [01:30] and imo, this is an excellent movie that I hope there's many, many, many sequels to. :) [01:30] I dunno, I watched the leaked workprint of "revenge of the sith" before it was released in theaters [01:30] me, i would rather look at a finished painting than watch a painter do his thing [01:30] it was good enough for me [01:30] antler: I love watching painters paint [01:31] antler: yeah, but you're lazy. :D [01:31] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:31] (though I also like it when I get to keep the painting when they're done) [01:31] 'joy of painting' <---- that guy was nuts [01:31] you'd get too antsy and leave before the painter finished his painting. [01:31] or fall asleep [01:31] one of the two. [01:31] firebird619: nope. i'm lazy and would probably just sit around [01:32] lol [01:33] antler: you probably just wouldn't go to the painter painting and say "Oh, I don't feel like it today, I'll just go see the finished product tomorrow." [01:34] digikam 1.0 beta is nice. :D [01:34] hahah yeah, unless i'm really, really into something, i prefer seeing the finished product, as opposed to seeing the work in progress [01:34] am I missing something; is Grip in either slackbuild or distro tree? [01:34] another related question: if not grip, what's your preferred ripper [01:35] I think grip is on slackbuilds.org [01:35] hmm, so it should be in sbopkg then [01:35] yup, it is. http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/grip/ [01:35] yeah, it should [01:35] bbiab [01:35] strange. I just updated it, but search turns up nothing in sbopkg. I'll go to slackbuilds page [01:36] nope, not at slackbuilds either [01:36] kinda surprising, I thought it was a lot more commonly used [01:37] what do you all use for a ripper (assuming you use something) [01:37] huh? [01:37] no grip on SBo? [01:37] nope [01:37] not for 12.1 anyway [01:37] not at page or sbopkg [01:37] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-31-178.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [01:37] it's on there for 12.2 [01:37] oh. Well that's because I submitted it after 12.2 came out [01:38] crap [01:38] but that build worked fine on slamd64 12.1 [01:38] dude, not the end of the world, just go get the 12.2 one and build it, it'll be fine [01:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.18.45) joined ##slackware. [01:38] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] ok, thought I was cautioned not to ever do that [01:38] :) [01:38] so, cool [01:39] nah, it's not "never do that", it's "never do that blindly, without understanding what's going on" [01:39] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-56.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [01:39] in this specific case, I'm the one who wrote the build script, and I say it's OK :) [01:39] firebird619: i do prefer watching a woman undress over seeing a butt naked woman. :D [01:39] excellent! [01:40] kinda like the difference between a chick saying she doesnt like it or she wont do it =D [01:40] just because she doesnt like it doesnt mean she isnt going to do it lol [01:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:40] it's even better when she says, "i don't like it. harder! harder!" [01:42] there's not so much interest in grip on slackware because versions of grip made in the last 5 years or so, require gnome libraries [01:42] that slackbuild is for the last version I could find that didn't depend on gnome, though [01:43] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [01:45] firebird619: hey fedora 11... a new os for you to try :D [01:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [01:46] thanks for the help [01:49] antler: hahaha. [01:49] I've used fedora before. [01:49] oh man [01:49] stupid UCLA graduation [01:50] the linkin park guy was the speaker [01:50] he was so fuckin funny [01:50] antler: besides, that's old news, that was released a few days ago. [01:50] jeev: which LP guy? [01:50] Chester, Mike, ? [01:50] firebird619: yeah, i know [01:50] lol gayball, i dont nkow [01:50] let me see [01:51] antler: I'm happy with slackware. I just want my wobbly windows. :D [01:51] brad delson [01:51] is that too much to ask? [01:51] he was so funny heh [01:51] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:51] they first had james franco coming, he then cancelled [01:51] they then asked conan obrien, conan said 7 days is too short to try to deliver an excellent speech [01:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:51] lol [01:51] so they asked him [01:52] he's like, it's great for me to haev thought i was the first one, then i found out i was the 3rd or something haha [01:52] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] I think Conan Obrien is an idiot. [01:52] and he said, anyway.. it'll be good, im getting an honorary degree [01:52] or at least acts like one. [01:52] they laughed and whispered to him that he's not [01:52] it was an act [01:52] but he graduated from UCLA in 99 i guess [01:52] firebird619: he looks like c3p0 [01:52] haha [01:52] he was good. really good [01:52] antler: yeah, only with hair. :P [01:54] Hmm, digikam's Export menu won't work. I suppose I need a new kipi-plugins or something. [01:55] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] Hey MLanden_lap, how are you> [01:55] s/>/? [01:56] Doin' fine thanks,firebird619 and yourself? [01:56] doing excellent, thank you. [01:56] firebird619: good to hear [01:56] conan o'brien started out as a writer for letterman [01:56] and/or carson [01:57] wow, I didn't know that. [01:57] he writes some funny stuff, but his delivery is off, IMO [01:57] Mazun' how many people wrote for Carson [01:57] yeah, I think so as well. [01:57] s/mazun/Mazin' [01:57] I always watched Jay Leno. Now he won't be on again until September. [01:57] jay is funny [01:57] you always see him driving around in a beat up car [01:58] thats why i respect him [01:58] Leno was just able to be naturally funny, not trying to force a joke or anything. [01:58] he would drive around in a pinto [01:58] llol [01:58] jeev: yeah, exactly, he's like a celeb, but doesn't act like one, he's acts just like a normal guy. [01:58] yea [01:58] every day i'd see him with a new pos car [01:58] and i love that [01:58] i hate angelina jolie but apparently she's like that with clothes [01:58] she just throws things on [01:58] so +1 for her [01:59] Imagine how rich in cars Leno must be. [01:59] he has a private garage at LAX [01:59] actually, hang on... [01:59] http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1302876.html [02:00] It must be nice to be able to just go to your garage and have the choice of driving whatever you want, while the rest of us have one old junker that barely starts. :P [02:00] i respect him, a lot [02:00] i hope he's around for a long time [02:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [02:01] i'm done with all this graduation crap [02:01] last thing is i'm going to her house for a family graduation party [02:01] i'm so tired.. [02:01] Urchlay: wow, that pickup is nice. [02:01] eh, the jet-engine-powered motorcycle made no impression on you? [02:01] i'm tired but yet still staying up [02:01] go figure [02:02] been up since 6am [02:02] 1am now [02:02] Urchlay: that too. I just noticed the pickup first because of the paint job. [02:02] heh [02:02] 01:02 here. :) [02:02] so many hot and sexy girls today [02:02] yes here too [02:02] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:02] nice legs+++ [02:02] but I had to work at 6am on friday morning [02:03] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.213) joined ##slackware. [02:03] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] wb MLanden_lap [02:04] thanks,firebird619...loose connection...OUCH..lol [02:04] :) [02:04] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:04] so my KVM over IP and shit is all set up, im happy] [02:05] nice [02:05] sweet [02:05] and a happy jeev is a what jeev? :P [02:05] happy [02:05] my entire network is complete [02:05] awesome. good work. [02:05] remote reboot, kvm over ip + kvm to everything [02:05] 18 new servers [02:06] not brand new ones.. [02:06] oolder stuff + 1 new one [02:06] awesome [02:06] yea man [02:06] im so happy [02:06] it's doing around 300 megs [02:06] dear gosh jeev, what kind of operation you runnin over there. :P [02:06] PORN [02:06] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:06] :P [02:06] i have a friend who has like another 140mbit in bandwidth [02:06] i want him to give it to me but he wont [02:06] anyone know of a good ncurses id3 tag tool? [02:06] he just keeps bouncing around hosting providers [02:08] i got my girlfriend a really expensive and nice watch for graduation [02:08] eheh [02:08] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] briareus: no, but if you find one, let me know [02:09] (as in, it never occurred to me that such a thing existed, but now that you mention it, I wish I had one...) [02:09] briareus: Check freshmeat .. there's a few older ones , that might be able to compile [02:10] make sure there id3v2 compliant [02:10] http://freshmeat.net/projects/mp3info <--- that might do [02:14] be a sweet thing to have with the PDA [02:15] jeev: diamonds, she'll pretty much have to. [02:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] Urchlay: id3ed [02:16] lookin' [02:19] Hack thyself. An unhacked life is not worth living for the human being. [02:19] briareus: here's a few more projects http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/ [02:21] thank you ! [02:21] got a quickie slackbuild for mp3info [02:22] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:22] cool [02:22] AbacusMonkey (n=mabacus@ppp118-208-212-127.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] lol spook. [02:23] bbiab, maybe sleep, i'm tired. good night [02:23] there needs to be a tarballbin (like pastebin for >1 file) [02:24] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.18.45) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:27] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [02:28] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:31] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-31-178.singnet.com.sg) left irc: "Leaving." [02:32] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:32] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [02:32] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] Urchlay: would be a good ap for those to have on their tiny emdeds..:D [02:34] sup [02:35] y0,nix_chixor [02:35] sorry...nix_chix0r [02:35] briareus: I have working slackbuilds for mp3info and id3ed, want me to email them to you or something? [02:35] sorry for what? [02:35] I'll submit to slackbuilds.org, but it'll take a while for them to clear the pending queue... [02:36] quick typin'....:D [02:36] hmm [02:36] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [02:36] fantastic [02:36] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Operation timed out [02:37] you [02:37] excellent, thanks. :) [02:37] MLanden_lap: well I have a couple scripts I wrote, to help automate the process (they at least create the .info and slack-desc files for me) [02:37] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [02:37] sweet [02:37] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [02:37] whaddup MLanden_lap [02:37] Urchlay: sure! briareus at g mail [02:37] Urchlay: thanks! [02:38] this is nice: http://lifehacker.com/5287275/the-quad-monitor-alcove [02:38] nothin'...just chillin'...you and the l'il one? [02:38] he's not all that little anymore. He's getting big. :P [02:39] lol....:P [02:39] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:39] gosh, that link I posted, 3 30" monitors. /me drools [02:40] not to mention a 52" tv right above the monitors. [02:40] oh yeah [02:40] Now that's a setup. :D [02:41] MLanden_lap: She posted a video of the little one a day or two ago, he's so cute. [02:41] good to hear [02:41] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [02:42] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [02:42] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:42] briareus: mail sent [02:42] ouch [02:43] what? [02:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:43] bad connex....did it show? [02:44] yours? no. [02:44] sweet...:D [02:44] :D [02:44] must have been a really fast disconnect and reconnect. :P [02:44] briareus: oh, those scripts, I haven't tested them on 12.1 (since I don't have it any more). Both are really simple, should work just fine for you. [02:45] must have been [02:45] Urchlay: might try those scripts later in the month on my slackarm [02:51] MLanden_lap: oooh, what have you got with an ARM in it? [02:51] somewhat [02:51] Urchlay: thanks! [02:53] older PDA I was toying with...bad memory card in it [02:53] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [02:54] briareus: no prob. I wanted packages of those myself, might as well give you copies too :) [02:54] MLanden_lap: hm, nothing you can replace? [02:55] gonna give another try later in the month with a few things my brother has [02:55] one of these days I want one of those little gamepark things (gp32 or gp32x or whatever the latest version is called) [02:56] wiz or pandora I think....they are sweet [02:56] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.169.224) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] got 'nough GPU for N64 and somewhat Sega Saturn...:D [02:57] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.160.153) joined ##slackware. [02:57] woot, new kipi-plugins fixed digikam. :) [02:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:58] Urchlay: think I saw a video floatin' round where they were messin' with Beryl [02:58] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [02:58] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:59] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:02] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:04] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:05] MLanden_lap: I'd be wanting to emulate older stuff than that even (newest would probably be the super nintendo) [03:06] dchmelik (i=1000@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:08] hear ya [03:09] the gamepark's supposed to be nice for emulation because it's got a nintendo-style d-pad that can take some abuse [03:09] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:09] most PDAs have wrongly-placed or -shaped or just plain fragile controls [03:09] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:09] yeah.....that is a true sweet spot...:D [03:10] or slow reaction to the emulation..:C [03:10] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:13] Urchlay: 'nother weak point is when emulating on a PDA,you run out of buttons as well [03:13] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [03:13] yeah [03:14] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:14] Unless you need to put the stylus in your mouth and leave the onboard keyboard on...LOL [03:14] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:14] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:14] even old systems like the atari 2600 end up needing 10 buttons or so (4 joystick directions, joystick button, reset/select switches, left and right difficulty) [03:15] true [03:15] that's 9... 8-bit nintendo needs 8, not much better really [03:16] super nintendo adds 4 more buttons to the controller, and probably no PDA ever made would have enough [03:16] true [03:17] a phone would have enough buttons, but they're probably not very good for games [03:18] too many combinations for the thumbers..:D [03:18] hi [03:18] heya,Thom1 [03:19] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:19] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:20] the Gamepark truly is a swiss army knife of sorts [03:20] taloha (n=MagNet7@125.163.200.167) joined ##slackware. [03:21] how to bonding 2 ethernet card with slackware [03:23] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:23] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Asmadeus_ (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [03:25] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [03:26] taloha: "man brctl", also read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/bridge.txt [03:26] (eh, well, actually the text file just points you to some web sites) [03:26] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Net:Bridge [03:28] thank [03:28] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:28] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:28] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] Urchlay: ever used giftcurs? I really like how that one is laid out. but the network isn't great [03:29] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:33] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:34] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:36] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:36] giftcurs... no idea what it is [03:36] had to look it up as well [03:36] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] " [03:37] giFTcurs is a cursed frontend to the giFT daemon and has been described as seriously slick. It wont work that well without giFT, which you should have already. " [03:37] gee, that's *really* informative... [03:37] http://www.giftproject.org/ is a parked spam-site, too [03:38] thanks very much, my problem was solved, nice to meet you :)) [03:38] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:38] taloha (n=MagNet7@125.163.200.167) left ##slackware. [03:38] a p2p of sorts,right? [03:39] looked it up on freshmeat, apparently yes [03:39] "giFT is a framework for bridging multiple backend peer-to-peer protocols and the user interface associated with them." [03:39] hm, so one client that does gnutella, emule/edonkey, whatever kazaa uses, maybe bittorrent too... sounds worth [03:39] s/$/y [03:40] briareus: is it actually any good at all? [03:41] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[03:46] briareus: can you check something for me, if you've already built mp3info from the script I sent you? [03:46] hang on, I will. I was away from the computer for a while [03:46] want me to make it now? [03:46] gmp3info is part of the package... I can't seem to type filenames into its file selector dialog (none of the keyboard shortcuts work at all) [03:47] the mouse works fine... *shrug* [03:47] wondering if you had the same problem [03:48] how can I tell my video card model? I need to know it so I get the right priority driver [03:48] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:49] lspci -v [03:49] stealth-: lspci|grep -i vga [03:49] usually does the trick [03:49] VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [03:49] unfortunately, I need the model number [03:50] probably that information's not even available [03:50] like, the card probably doesn't "know" its own model number [03:50] yeah, I see [03:50] hm.... [03:50] any advice, then? [03:50] it's one of the more annoying facts of life :( [03:50] eh, why do you need the exact model number? [03:51] downloading priority drivers [03:52] I got a list of about 20 different model numbers for my card type :/ [03:52] ATI proprietary driver? are there really that many different downloads for different cards? I kinda thought they all use the same installer... unless your card is really old [03:52] Urchlay: I'm havin' the same problem trying to enter filenames as well [03:52] this laptop is pretty old, Its only a pentium 3 [03:52] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) joined ##slackware. [03:52] MLanden_lap: that's on what? slack 12.2? [03:53] x86, right, not arm? :) [03:53] x86 [03:53] 12.2 [03:53] stealth-: in that case, the ATI proprietary driver is useless to you [03:53] Urchlay: why? [03:53] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:53] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [03:53] stealth-: they dropped support for the older chips... but the old driver versions that still contain support, can't be compiled/used on the later kernels [03:54] Urchlay: because the driver thats running right now is absolutely horrible for 3d stuff [03:54] stealth-: what driver is it? [03:54] that im currently using? [03:54] yah [03:54] one sec [03:54] Urchlay: in gmp3info (cool tool you sent me by the way) I was able to navigate to a music folder, click on a song, and see its tag info propagate into the second window [03:55] r128, urchlay [03:55] hmm, strangely, the Track info is two symbols instead of '01' in my example [03:55] someone told me to download priority drivers if I wanted 3d [03:56] because this laptop, which I have another one almost identicle to it (but with less ram) that currently runs 3d stuff *way* better than this one. [03:56] briareus: right, that works for me too. But if you actually try to type in the file/open thing... does that work? (like typing a filename) [03:56] also, Urchlay for some reason the bottom two buttons on the second tag info gui are too short to have readable letters so I don't know wha they do [03:56] OH, ok let me try that [03:56] yeah, broken here [03:57] stealth-: r128 is the driver you're using now? I don't believe that supports 3d at all... [03:57] Urchlay: well the other option I had was vga, which was just as bad. [03:58] briareus: you mean the OK and Cancel buttons are unreadable? [03:58] stealth-: vga doesn't support 3d, period. Have you tried the radeon driver? (doubtful it would work for that card, but I don't know for sure, try it) [03:59] Urchlay: what is the driver called, just "radeon"? [03:59] yep [03:59] k, one minute [03:59] Urchlay: on my lappie,OK and Cancel are readable..the box is just too short [04:00] hm [04:00] Urchlay: oh, the driver I was running before might have been "versa" rather than "vga" [04:00] Urchlay: sorry about that [04:00] I get the oddball track number display, but I thought it might just be the particular mp3 I was using [04:00] brklnRedneck (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] "vesa"... which also completely lacks any 3d support at all [04:01] could be the id3v2 vs id3v1 [04:01] k. just ctrl+alt+deleting is sufficient for the new driver to take effect, correct? [04:01] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [04:01] wb,firebird619 [04:01] Urchlay: yes, it's like they are only tall enough for a 4 or 6 point font [04:01] thanks [04:01] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:02] Urchlay: like if there was a corner-resize it'd be ok [04:02] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:02] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [04:03] briareus: hmmm. Well I'll have to play with that one, or maybe just remove gpm3info completely and leave only the mp3info CLI version [04:03] s/gpm/gmp/ [04:03] Urchlay: uh... x11 wont start :/ [04:04] Urchlay: no errors either [04:04] stealth-: OK, I guess that means "radeon" won't work :) [04:04] the errors are probably in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but probably they just say "no radeon card found" [04:04] Urchlay: I might have messed something up, im actually getting really frustrated with booting into runlevel 4 automatically cause I get no getties. [04:04] yuck [04:04] old slackware used to give you one getty in rl4 [04:05] Urchlay: general usage question. I always save my .tgz since I tend to wipe my /tmp from time to time. Do you or other paople save the .tgz [04:05] I do [04:05] AbacusMonkey (n=mabacus@ppp118-208-212-127.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]" [04:05] I think im gonna change it back, anyways. RUn level 3 is default, isnt it? [04:05] yes [04:05] k, thx [04:05] brb, dog freaking out [04:05] heh [04:06] my dog is as tall as my dad when my dog stands up on his hind 2 legs [04:08] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.12.59) joined ##slackware. [04:09] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:09] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:09] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:10] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.22.224) joined ##slackware. [04:10] he's just bored & lonely [04:11] get him a lady friend? [04:11] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-20-188.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:11] he's the landlady's dog, she's out of town so I'm dog-sitting [04:11] (again) [04:11] Ekc (n=iskar@90-154-133-216.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:11] heh, he keeps trying to hook up with the rottweiler bitch next door [04:11] haha [04:12] lol...she'll break his heart and anything else...:D [04:12] is there any way to get getties when booting into run level 4? [04:12] they would have beautiful puppies I think, but the owners keep her tied up :( [04:12] stealth-: yah. Check out /etc/inittab, it's pretty well-commented [04:12] after editing "init q" to reread it [04:12] MLanden_lap: haha, yeah, no kidding. [04:13] Urchlay: well there is a line in there that says it adds in a extra getty, but I cant get to it when I boot into level 4 [04:13] should be ctrl-alt-F6 [04:13] yeah doesnt work :/ [04:13] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:13] doesn't do anything at all? [04:13] or switches to a blank tty? [04:13] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux. Hey, how's it going? [04:13] no, nothing. There is just F1 and F7 [04:14] hey firebird619 ! going nice, and you ? [04:14] Nick change: brklnRedneck -> brklynRednek [04:14] going excellent, thanks. [04:14] oh, so there *is* F1, but no login prompt on it [04:14] Camarade_Tux: I'm on -current + kde4 now and lovin it. :D [04:14] yeah, it just shows the kdm and bootup stuff [04:14] firebird619, nice :) [04:15] ok, well, I have no idea why F6 doesn't work then... I was gonna say, add a 4 to all those c1:1235:... lines (so they look like the c6 one) [04:15] eh, but if the c6 line isn't doing its job, I dunno why I'd expect the other to work [04:15] tryin' LXDE/Openbox on a older laptop now [04:15] hm... one sec. [04:15] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] reminds me I updated a friend's computer yesterday and when I ran slacpkg clean-system or whatever similar, instead of removing what I wanted to remove and keep what I wanted to keep, I removed what I wanted to keep and kept what I didn't want to keep >< [04:16] MLanden_lap: nice. I've tried openbox and lxde. What's your opinion of them? [04:16] I removed all the custom packages >< [04:16] Camarade_Tux: haha, nice. [04:16] Camarade_Tux: ouch [04:16] not too bad....panel's easy to configure [04:16] Camarade_Tux: that's worse then what I did on my current vm. :P [04:16] he nearly hates me : [04:16] only nearly? [04:16] :P [04:17] :P [04:17] but he only had a few custom packages (most of which *I* had installed) [04:17] anyway, considering the upgrade, they'd need to be rebuilt -_- [04:17] luckily. :D [04:17] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:17] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:18] and I forgot to test X was still working which is kinda silly [04:18] (but I was in a hurry) [04:18] Urchlay: this is the line thats supposed to open up the extra level 4 gettie: x1:4:respawn:/etc/rc.d/rc.4 [04:18] Camarade_Tux: YOU FAIL. :) [04:18] is that right? [04:18] firebird619 ='( [04:18] Camarade_Tux: :), shouldn't have been working on something like that while in a hurry; it's easy to mess the whole thing up and miss something. [04:19] the reason I messed things at that moment is that I had to leave quite quickly and I needed to get my external hard drive back ;) [04:19] and at first, I had more than one hour left [04:19] wow, you're just full of excuses, eh? :P [04:19] stealth-: actually no, the line that's supposed to open up the extra getty is: c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux [04:19] firebird619, yeah, always ! ;) [04:19] haha [04:20] stealth-: the 5 lines above that have 1235 instead of 12345, I was gonna tell you to add the missing 4 to them [04:20] Urchlay: ah! okay. I see. that line was commented out, and then the comment section about the extra GUI getty was written far down the file from that so I didnt think they were related. [04:21] stealth-: yeah, that comment's misplaced, or at least in a confusing place if you don't already know how to read inittab entries [04:22] Urchlay: thanks for the help. That'll help alot when I start breaking things ;) [04:22] Action: Urchlay prefers runlevel 3 [04:23] I did too at first, but then my laptop is slow and takes a bit to load X, so if I get it to boot GUI then I can leave the room and come back to have myself fully logged in [04:23] though I do have a little snippet in .bash_login that checks whether X is already running, and if not, asks "do you want to start X [Y/n]?", so I can log in and hit enter [04:23] (that only happens on tty1 though) [04:23] cool! [04:23] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:23] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:24] Well, time to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:24] stealth-: What's the make of your lappy? [04:24] see ya Camarade_Tux [04:24] later MLanden_lap [04:24] night firebird619 :) [04:24] later Urchlay [04:24] MLanden_lap: its a dell latitude [04:24] see ya stealth- :) [04:24] later firebird619 [04:24] take care,firebird619 [04:24] firebird619: bye ;) [04:24] Latitude...cool [04:25] yeah ! \o/ I got my ram back, firefox crashed >< [04:25] haha [04:25] was that sarcastic? Its hard to tell across the internet, lol [04:25] I just ate a massive amount of food, so I probably am getting tired soon.. [04:25] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:26] no....the older latitude's are fun with slackware [04:26] MLanden_lap: cool. I broke the audio, aparently though. I dont actually know what I did :( [04:26] MLanden_lap: im considering putting slack on my main system and maybe my server. They are both still on ubuntu [04:27] now,stealth-.....that will get lots of sarcasm on this channel...:D [04:28] heh. I like ubuntu, its a good way to show off what linux can do without daunting new users with the tech stuff, but then people move on to get a better understanding of how it exactly works. [04:28] I would go mad trying to use ubuntu on a server [04:28] (move onto other distros) [04:28] Which model latitude is it,stealth-? [04:29] MLanden_lap: um, its a C600 (PP01L) [04:29] wtf, this is the 3rd night in a row the dog's gone into a barking fit at 4:30AM [04:30] no idea what he's barking at (nobody here) [04:30] queue spooky music [04:30] well he woke me up at frigging 4:30AM, 24 hours ago [04:30] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:31] which meant I got tired again around 2PM and took a 4-hour nap, so now I'm wide awake at 4:30AM again [04:31] @#%@#$^ [04:31] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:31] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.160.207) joined ##slackware. [04:32] I take sleeping pills, not a problem for me :) Is there sirens around your house? my dog barks alot at those [04:32] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] Urchlay, I guess you're sober, you should drink, it will solve your problem -_- [04:32] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.160.153) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] gah, I hate firefox so much [04:33] i love it [04:33] my desktop menu has three entries : "xterm, firefox, xchat", and sometimes, instead of running xterm, I spawn another firefox window [04:33] each time I screeeeaaaaaaammmmm ! [04:34] like "no, not firefox, noooo !" [04:34] anyone tried 2.6.30 yet? [04:34] i'm running it at this moment, icarus [04:34] thats not really firefoxs fault you press wrong buttons [04:34] :D [04:34] oh, 2.6.30-rc5, time for an update [04:34] C00re, sure, I'd only like firefox not to be stupid in the first place and not to scare me to this point ;) [04:35] stealth-: that'll be the ESS Allegro/Maestro soundchip for that model of Latitude [04:35] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.241) joined ##slackware. [04:35] MLanden_lap: lol, did you really google that for me? I think I just messed with something I shouldnt have. A alsa reinstall should fix it, but thanks for the info :) [04:36] np....here to learn as well...:D [04:36] ugh, I dunno what driver to download. Its like russian roulette. [04:36] maybe I should download them all..... [04:37] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:37] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:37] I think im gonna do that, process of elimination. (although thats not very russian roulette like) [04:38] shouldn't be that bad [04:39] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.78.212) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:39] what shouldnt be? [04:39] Nick change: Asmadeus_ -> Asmadeus [04:39] Camarade_Tux: I can't sleep if I'm drunk [04:39] the damn bed won't hold still [04:39] determining which driver would be best [04:40] well there is like 20 on the list.... lol [04:40] MLanden_lap: OK, apparently I've fixed the bug in gmp3info that kept the keyboard from working in the file selector [04:40] Urchlay, then you're not drunk enough :D [04:40] what was the bug,Urchlay? [04:41] the guy had an unconditional return(TRUE) in a gtk signal handler function [04:41] it was supposed to close the file dialog if you press Escape (which worked), but the function gets called for every keypress... it should return(FALSE) for the keypresses that aren't Escape [04:42] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:49] let me try gtk_widget_set_usize and see if upping the ante does anything [04:50] the track number display is still horked, too [04:52] it appears to be doing something like displaying the ASCII character whose value is the track number (if I enter track 65, I get a capital A) [04:52] what version of X.org is slackware 12.2 using? [04:52] this channel needs a bot, that'd be cool [04:53] that did it....setting it at 510x400 stretched it out a bit [04:53] it has one, but not a talkative one (he just bans folk) [04:53] MLanden_lap: what was it originally? [04:53] sounds like a nice guy [04:53] think like 450 x 360 [04:55] line #106 [04:55] got it [04:55] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.12.59) left irc: "Leaving" [04:55] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:56] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [04:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [04:58] anyone here using kde? how do you set kde to remember the position and geometry of windows/apps [if possible] [04:59] right click, configure window behaviour? [04:59] slackmagic: ^ [05:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [05:00] ugh, all these drivers fail when trying to install the compiled kernel module :/ [05:01] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:01] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:02] well I give up for tonight, got a job interview tomorrow anyways. cya guys. [05:03] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:03] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [05:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:03] dchmelik (i=1000@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:12] ='( [05:13] interestingly enough, debian and gentoo have gmp3info, and they don't fix any of these bugs [05:14] (being a lazy bastard, I would just have nicked their patches, if they had any) [05:14] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:15] hear ya [05:16] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:17] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:17] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:17] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [05:18] Urchlay, I tried to get debian's patchs a few times but didn't manage, it was such a mess ! [05:19] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:19] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [05:20] something like a boot manager can be installed in a usb stick to boot for example different boot images? [05:20] dissocia1ive, it's possible to install grub on an usb stick [05:21] debian's patches aren't such a mess [05:21] you get the source, unpack, apply the debian .diff.gz [05:22] vessed (n=hum@78.169.39.99) joined ##slackware. [05:22] either that patches the source files directly, or else it creates a subdir debian/patches/ or similar [05:22] and get the changelogs, news, authors, notes files [05:22] Urchlay, I've already seen patches of patches of patches in debian... [05:23] yeah. You want to create your own clean .diff without all the extraneous junk... but it's not really difficult [05:23] well, I thought it was such a mess I shouldn't trust their patches ;) [05:23] vessed (n=hum@78.169.39.99) left ##slackware ("x"). 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[06:09] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.160.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:10] take care,folks...talk with everyone later [06:10] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:11] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:11] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:12] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Greetings [06:13] hows things going today? [06:17] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:17] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [06:20] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:21] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:21] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:21] I cant wait to install freebsd! [06:22] Urchlay: at /? [06:22] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:23] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [06:24] guys, is there a way to run something and see on the terminal what it is doing? what it is accessing etc..etc.. is it called debugging? or am i completely off track? [06:24] Action: The-Croupier parking his car and be back in 5mins [06:25] The-Croupier: strace [06:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [06:27] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.217) joined ##slackware. [06:29] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[06:39] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:39] lynx --dump http://checkip.dyndns.com:8245/ :P [06:39] Action: ataxic pokes tewmten o/~ [06:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] saleh (n=saleh@87.109.129.104) joined ##slackware. [06:42] The-Croupier: it depends of the configuration of your network [06:43] If you dont see your external ip with /sbin/ifconfig then you dont have an external IP number, the internet protocol number is owned by the gateway [06:43] dissocia1ive: what do you mean? i was asking kind of what is my current external ip [06:43] dissocia1ive: i dont think so [06:44] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [06:44] and he is telling you [06:45] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] The-Croupier: there shouldn't be any internal resource for figuring out your public IP. [06:45] I think [06:46] dissocia1ive: why not? if i somehow wanted to check what do people see from the outside ? [06:47] it would be a bitch...not having something to check... :( [06:47] The-Croupier: use lynx as I stated above [06:47] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:47] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Operation timed out [06:47] you can use something like whatismyip.org [06:47] chopp: just did ;) thanks [06:49] I wasn't aware myself that ifconfig would give your external ip, as I've never not been behind an gateway/firewall/router [06:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [06:49] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) joined ##slackware. [06:49] iwconfig for wireless [06:49] well ifconfig shows it too [06:49] good afternoon [06:50] Action: Camarade_Tux only gets his internal ip with ifconfig [06:50] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [06:51] hey Yalla-One [06:51] as does everybody else Camarade_Tux ;) [06:51] how do you guys get external ip from ifconfig? [06:51] I use PPPoE so I can get the public ip [06:51] ifconfig just by itself does not [06:51] dissocia1ive: what do you type? [06:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:52] tracert www.google.com [06:52] you have to change the network configuration [06:52] I'm struggling with getting the right kernel modules into my initrd. Anyone got a second to point to which modules I need for SATA (AHCI) ? (was so much easier in the old IDE+reiserfs-only-days) [06:52] if you are the owner that network [06:52] Yalla-One: amen [06:52] dissocia1ive: i am ;) what? [06:52] sorry dissocia1ive i dont understand what you mena [06:52] mean [06:53] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [06:53] give me a second... [06:54] jdog, I have not problems building the right modules statically into the kernel, but finding the right module name somehow eludes me :-( Any pointers? ;-) [06:55] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:57] I think that you should read this: http://www.lizella.net/networking_101.txt [06:57] saleh (n=saleh@87.109.129.104) left irc: "Leaving" [06:57] 0x78D5AF56 [06:57] Yalla-One: when you're in the kernel config, if you check out , it will give you the name of the module and more. :P [06:58] Max1123 (n=Max1123@n122z133l161.bb122100.ctm.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:59] chopp, I know, but for sata_achi it says Symbol: SATA_AHCI and depends on ATA && PCI, but there are no such module names that I am able to include in mkinitrd... [06:59] The-Croupier: and this too: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/networking-concepts-HOWTO.html [06:59] that will help you to understand better [07:00] chopp, So while I'm able to pinpoint exactly what to include in my custom kernels, I'm at stupid loss on how to use the generic slackware kernel with an initrd, making me feel more-than-average-stupid ... [07:00] Yalla-One: I don't use an initrd [07:01] bbl [07:01] dissocia1ive: thnks [07:01] thanks [07:08] ok.... my desktop has now decided to muck about with the keyboard settings... how does one change the keyboard map these days? [07:09] StevenR, in X or console? [07:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:09] actually, it's just X that's misbehaving [07:09] in console, check /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap, in X - check xorg.conf or if -current, use the .fdi files [07:10] Yalla-One: .fdi files? [07:10] xorg.conf is correct... which is why it worked yesterday before I updated my -current [07:11] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:11] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:12] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] StevenR, -current uses HAL to configure devices. Check out Robby's changes and hints document, or google xorg.conf + hal + keyboard :-) [07:15] maxiiis_ (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [07:16] wow! workman has been busy [07:17] Pig_Pen: and a few others. ;) [07:17] yup [07:18] Yalla-One: the changes and hints doc doesn't appear to say anything about that [07:18] Yalla-One: have you tried the search function in the kernel config? [07:19] chopp, Yeah, it's just the map symbol name to module name that stops me. Like I said it works perfectly for custom kernels where I just statically link the drivers I need. The search only searches symbol and sctions, not the actual module names :-( [07:19] StevenR, Check out these: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging [07:20] StevenR, and : http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2009/01/msg00559.html [07:20] Yalla-One: allright, sorry I'm not much help then. [07:20] chopp, It's probably really simple to figure out, I'm just stuck :-) [07:20] thanks anyway chopp ! [07:21] maxiiis_ (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:21] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [07:21] I guess someday I should use an initrd, just so I know how it's done. :P I've read the docs but... [07:22] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:23] up until slackware64-current, it had been a long long time since I even did a fresh install. Boxen were allways just upgraded. (usually with -current) [07:23] kama_ (n=kama@host226-32-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:24] RaNdY (i=randy@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-121-237.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:26] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:27] slackware64-current ftw (high five to rworkman, alienBOB, PiterPunk, and the rest of the crew, and the king volkerdi! :) ) [07:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:27] Yalla-One: thanks. that works now... what a dumb change though, just ignoring pre-exsiting xorg.conf settings. [07:28] Action: StevenR prods rworkman to write a change/hint about it :) [07:29] StevenR, Not really a dumb change, since moving this to HAL allows you to hotplug both monitors and input devices. Quite clever, but like all things quite complex until you grow familiar with it :-) [07:30] Yalla-One: ++ [07:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Yalla-One: well no, it's a dumb change for keyboards. Yeah, that works for monitors and mice, but it doesn't appear to handle keyboards [07:31] Yalla-One: it's not complex at all, just dumb and poorly documented. [07:31] StevenR, it handles the keyboards very well - I use it myself all the time when I dock/undock my laptop to get my external keyboard working [07:31] I agree with you that it's not so well documented yet, but that's the pleasures of -current - to work these things out :-) [07:32] Yalla-One: nope. doesn't handle keyboard layouts. This is one of the key features of a keyboard. [07:32] it just assumes us. [07:32] HAL doesn't handle keyboard layouts? It does here... works like a charm [07:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:33] /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi : [07:33] no [07:33] Yalla-One: well no. It assumed us, despite an xorg.conf setting to the contrary. [07:33] gives me norwegian keyboard... [07:34] aha. yeah, it ignores that... [07:34] the americans still seem to think they're the centre of the world :P [07:34] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.189) joined ##slackware. [07:36] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [07:37] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Nick change: dtanner -> mesa [07:38] Nick change: mesa -> dtanner [07:39] alienBOB: your script works with current 64 correct? [07:40] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:41] compl3x: yes it works with 64-current [07:42] Nice [= [07:42] I agree [07:43] unless you have an older one before he modified it [07:43] _juan (n=juan@200.84.127.58) joined ##slackware. [07:43] nope - mirroring has started [= [07:43] \o/ [07:43] Ive never ran a 64 bit OS, many noticable improvments? [07:44] for computation-heavy tasks, yes [07:44] nice [07:44] exactly [07:44] hey Camarade_Tux :p [07:44] yo compl3x :) [07:45] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:46] Action: compl3x is playing with his new panasonic HDC-SD9 video cam [07:46] <_juan> Hi! when chencking my xorg.conf i see that i am using the vesa driver but but i have an intel video chip, after checking packages.slackware i found no xf86-video-intel for slackware 64...any ideas on how to get this driver? [07:46] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:47] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:47] _juan: tried changing vesa to "intel" ? [07:47] Yalla-One: have you had a look at alienBOB's mkinitrd_command_generator script? [07:47] chopp, Yeah, thanks. For some reason it only suggests USB devices... emailed him about it [07:48] ahh :) [07:48] <_juan> yes i did, that was my first step, but x didn't start [07:48] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-186.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [07:48] good MLanden, how goes with you? [07:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:49] good thanks,chopp [07:49] right on [07:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] How's the weather for you,chopp? [07:50] been really nice the last week or so. :) [07:51] Action: chopp points at nix_chix0r's connection and laughs [07:52] _juan, tried running xorgsetup [07:52] yeah, nix_chix0r, now, stay connected ! [07:52] <_juan> yes, and it came back with vesa...again... [07:52] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) left irc: "Leaving" [07:52] Been raining on and off here in eastern Virginia....startin' to get muggy..95F/34C [07:52] _juan, which intel card ? [07:53] Camarade_Tux: she is under the impression that it's only crap when it rains, but we know different. :P [07:53] _juan, me has : "./x/xf86-video-intel-2.7.1-x86_64-1.txz" [07:54] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:54] chopp, yeah, the sun is shining right now -_- [07:55] Whoops....89F/31C expected [07:55] <_juan> Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 [07:55] been about 22C here. [07:56] nice [07:56] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:56] MLanden: I forget where you're located? [07:56] eastern US [07:56] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [07:57] ahh right [07:57] Australia,right chopp? [07:57] bumfsck Alberta Canada [07:57] OUCH...lol [07:57] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Australia...I WISH lol [07:58] _juan, with which X ? 1.4 or 1.6 ? [07:58] could have gone there tears ago with my rig, but never did [07:58] /s/tears/years [07:59] well tears now... [08:00] <_juan> xorg-server-1.4.2-x86_64-2 [08:01] hear ya,chopp [08:03] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:03] <_juan> checking my .../log/packages i found var/log/packages/xf86-video-intel-2.4.3-x86_64-2 , so if i DO have the driver, why cant i use it? [08:05] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0233A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] _juan, afaict, you'd need 2.5 of this driver to get proper support [08:06] so, updating X should do it [08:07] _juan: Which Intel is it? [08:07] kama_ (n=kama@host226-32-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:07] <_juan> Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 [08:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:08] <_juan> it's the chip that comes with the DG41TY MB [08:08] agree with Camarade_Tux....2.5 has better support with that one [08:09] <_juan> so, Camarade_Tux how do i update X from current 64? [08:09] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [08:11] _juan, first, you thank god because the support you needed appeared in slackware 3 days ago [08:11] and then, I'll let someone else answer because I'm not that experienced with upgrades [08:11] Action: MLanden knocks on wood for _juan...:D [08:12] god and rworkman :P [08:12] <_juan> Well, i give thanks a lot [08:12] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [08:12] echo Hello, slackers! [08:15] <_juan> what package do i need? [08:15] juan: For what? [08:15] _juan: For what? [08:16] <_juan> updating X from current 64 [08:16] _juan: you can't just upgared xorg. Look at the changelog. [08:16] /s/upgared/upgrade [08:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:18] whats so special about the new xorg? [08:18] <_juan> i need support for my intel video card and Camarade_Tux and Mlanden pointed me to updating X [08:19] maxiiis (n=max@91.190.39.53) joined ##slackware. [08:19] _juan, basically, you should upgrade your slackware64 to -current, but you should upgrade everything, not just X [08:20] _juan, yeah got that, @all and besides that? [08:21] nvision: -current xorg uses HAL to configure devices. [08:25] <_juan> did slackware just release a new current 64? [08:25] <_juan> did slackware just release a new current 64 iso? [08:25] a new current? [08:26] afaik, there arent official current isos [08:26] nvision, you can use the nouveau driver instead of nv or nvidia if you have 1.6 [08:28] straterra, indeed not. [08:28] Although some mirrors MIGHT build a -current ISO every now and then. [08:28] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.103.101) joined ##slackware. [08:34] <_juan> the latest Xorg is 1.6 right? [08:35] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [08:36] _juan, yes [08:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] if you have to ask that, I'm not sure you should be attempting to upgrade to -current [08:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-208-191.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:41] <_juan> well, i am running an Initial public release of Slackware64-current. or so says my changelog published in May [08:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Action: Camarade_Tux is really annoyed he had no time to check the X upgrade he did yesterday using slackpkg has been successful =/ [08:43] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-192-243.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:44] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:45] <|Slacker|> just got sick of this fedora [08:46] silkk (n=kvirc@megatron.jedibash.com) left irc: "Die." 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[09:19] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:25] bryanlharris (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:27] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.144.74) joined ##slackware. [09:30] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.71) joined ##slackware. [09:30] hi all [09:32] i'm running slackware 12.1 on my laptop (HP 8530p) and have following problem: fan is always on, it never switches off [09:33] tck2: what device is that? md0? [09:33] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] vdv: Have you searched google? [09:37] You can find some good tutorials on acpi. [09:37] software raid. im not familiar [09:38] i know that it's acpi issue [09:38] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [09:38] i've specified ACPI=ht in kernel parameters [09:40] howdy folks. [09:40] md0 is part of a raid1 array ( it contains the / partition) [09:43] does ACPI=ht turn acpi off? [09:44] vdv 'dmesg|grep ACPI' what does that show? Bogus fan support.? is it one of the nx series? [09:46] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:46] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [09:48] nille_: not it's not nx series laptop, it's HP 8530p [09:48] What may the problem be, I set in BIOS setting my CPU frequency at 1.0Ghz but Linux shows 1.6Ghz. Which one is the right frequency? [09:48] ok the nx and nc had some fan problems if i remember correctly [09:49] pri4pus is it the right bus speed in the bios? [09:49] http://pastebin.com/m3df75941 [09:50] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] vdv: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz [09:50] if I ever have another cat, I'm going to name him grep [09:51] cpu MHz : 2400.066 [09:51] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:51] that is your current clocked speed [09:52] use cpufrequtils [09:52] or just echo a scaling governor to /sys [09:52] Urchlay 'cat|kill -9' :) [09:53] nille: What do you mean? BIOS shows 1.0Ghz but Linux 1.6Ghz. And I have set up in BIOS to be 1Ghz. But why Linux shows me 1.6Ghz?! [09:53] oops, pri4pus cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz [09:54] nille_: you have to kill the cat 9 times... [09:54] and I bet he won't just sit there & let you do it, either [09:54] pri4pus is the bus speed for the frontside bus correct and what is the real speed of your cpu? [09:55] The ral speed is 1.6Ghz, by default. [09:55] And it is Dual 2 Core [09:55] pri4pus so the bios one is wrong [09:55] Ok, thank you very much! [09:56] hahaha : I'm listening to The Kinks right now and in one of their song, they compare owning a 24" tv screen to owning a limousine ^^ [09:56] :-) [09:56] pri4pus: "echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" and try again [09:56] Make sure the appropriate cpufreq driver is loaded, too. [09:56] And the governor. [09:57] vdv i would try an later kernel maybe a newer slackware version. [09:57] thrice': I have no cpufreq in /sys/... [09:57] modprobe acpi-cpufreq then [09:58] vdv, btw, the fan is always on but how fast ? min speed or max speed ? [09:59] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) joined ##slackware. [10:00] thrice': I forgot to reconfigure my system after a fresh install... [10:00] nheco (n=nheco@201-34-68-226.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:00] well, curious why a "fresh install" is 12.1 :) [10:00] thrice': I will configure after installing Slackware64. [10:01] thrice': I had some problems... [10:01] Thank you! [10:01] sure; be sure to use that echo for "cpu1" too for both cores [10:02] Camarade_Tux: i think, that max speed [10:02] Nick change: Guest52859 -> sidmario [10:03] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-203-192.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:04] vdv check so min and max is not the same [10:05] Hi. Trying to print something in KDE. KDE control centre for adding a new CUPS printer says: "Unable to load requested driver: /usr/share/cups/model/HP/hp-psc_2170_series-hpijs.ppd (line31) syntax error, unexpected ':' ". What do I do? [10:05] bbl [10:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:06] if i do cat /proc/acpi/fan/FANG/state it prints "off" [10:06] vdv also what temp does your cpu show? [10:06] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-153-225.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Sup all, just got Slack 12.2 back onto my laptop [10:06] got wifi working, to a degree [10:06] nille_: how can i check fan speed and cpu temp? [10:07] vdv, /proc ? [10:07] vdv, /proc/cpuinfo [10:07] nope [10:07] I still cant connect to a network with any encryption [10:07] only unsecured networks [10:07] did you setup wpa_supplicant ? [10:07] en1gma (n=en1gma@12-203-116-113.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] DralaFi i always set them up in cups http://localhost:631/ i never used the kde one [10:08] sup all [10:08] no [10:08] i have it on my system [10:08] but i havent done anything to it [10:08] but /proc/cpuinfo doesn't show cpu temperature [10:08] oh, right. just trying to make it do it on its own? [10:08] yes, don't listen to beatzz [10:08] i got a question about running mc....when i browse to a dir other then ~ and then quit mc it always returns me to ~ [10:08] i know i had it leave me in the dir i browse to before [10:08] vdv, sorry, was just a guess [10:08] i forget how to do it [10:09] i googled and couldnt find anything on it [10:09] thrice`, ok so I'll google some stuff about wpa_supplicant [10:09] thrice`, if you think that will help [10:09] btw anyone know how to set mc file associations? [10:09] en1gma: you sure that ever worked like that? the normal way Linux handles the current directory, it doesn't propagate "up" the process tree (e.g. to the shell you used to call mc from) [10:09] vdv on my laptop it's 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature' [10:10] en1gma: Works fine for me on 12.2 [10:10] yea it worked before...but i had to do something like type a command in the input bar i think [10:10] or something [10:10] there was something i did before i would hit f10 for quit [10:10] hmm, I just tried it on -current, it does work [10:10] and it would leave in the dir i browsed to [10:11] that's a neat bit of trickery [10:11] thrice`, will wpa_supplicant help with WEP / WEP-PSK? [10:11] vdv and in THM1 also [10:11] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] no, wpa_supplicant is for wpa2 [10:11] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] beatzz: this is the best guide: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [10:11] ahhh, mc is an alias, that's how it works [10:11] thrice`, thanks :) [10:11] en1gma: see what "type mc" shows you [10:11] or, you can install wicd from /exra and have a point + click [10:11] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@130.136.4.142) joined ##slackware. [10:12] thrice`, i have wicd [10:12] is it running ? [10:12] yes [10:12] it runs on start up. [10:13] M-c dont do anything...pulls up a box about cd-ing [10:13] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:13] en1gma: not meta-C... I meant, from the bash prompt (not from mc), type the command "type mc" [10:14] nille_: i doesn't have THM* dirs in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone [10:14] mc is hashed (/usr/bin/mc) [10:14] vdv what do you have? [10:14] mc is aliased to `. /usr/share/mc/bin/mc-wrapper.sh' [10:15] en1gma: there's your problem. Normally, mc is an alias, which is how it does its magic. See if you have the file /etc/profile.d/mc.sh and, if you have it, is it executable/readable by your user? [10:15] nille_: highest temperature in thermal_zone subdirs is 61C [10:15] en1gma: also, ehm, what shell are you using? (I assumed bash, but...) [10:15] drwxr-xr-x [10:15] yea bash [10:16] /etc/profile.d/mc.sh is a *directory*? [10:16] vdv what subdirs is there? [10:16] Urchlay: RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAY!! [10:16] gvfs-bash-completion.sh [10:16] thats all thats in ther [10:16] huh? [10:16] in where? [10:16] O.o [10:16] timidboy (n=timidboy@2001:0:4137:9e50:0:fbee:42f1:3be6) joined ##slackware. [10:16] en1gma: do us a favour? [10:16] die? [10:16] sup [10:17] What distro are you using? [10:17] i just got smoked out [10:17] en1gma: pastebin the output of "tree /etc/profile.d" [10:17] im running a live cd right now for openwrt [10:17] nille_: BATZ, CP2Z, CPUZ, DTSZ, GFXZ, LOCZ [10:18] en1gma: eh, OK, you're in ##slackware, we sorta assume you're running slackware... [10:18] ./etc/profile.d [10:18] `-- gvfs-bash-completion.sh [10:18] 0 directories, 1 file [10:18] check in CPUZ [10:18] actually, I think I am gonna go with thrice` here. [10:19] :> [10:19] well i come here because i have ran slackware for many years off and on...you can check my nick [10:19] i remember some of you all [10:19] i used to be tdbone1 also [10:19] en1gma: yeah, ok. But since probably nobody here knows/cares much about the specifics of using mc on that live CD, you're kinda in the wrong place [10:19] grazymax (n=grazymax@host172-157-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:19] nille_: 63C now [10:20] I mean I don't say "you should die", but you should definitely ask for help from people who might actually have used the thing you're asking for help about... [10:20] the question is about mc nothing else...and how can mc leave you in the dir you were in when you quit [10:20] everyone that uses mc prob like to know that [10:20] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [10:20] en1gma: yes, and the answer is more complex than you think it is [10:20] en1gma: So? You think just because you ran slackware at some point, it gives you an automatic right to support on "whatever you are running"? [10:20] im just saying i used to do it in slackware all the time [10:20] it was no special setting [10:20] vdv 63C and your idle? [10:20] en1gma: try creating a /etc/profile.d/mc.sh, containing the line: [10:20] alias mc='. /usr/share/mc/bin/mc-wrapper.sh' [10:21] tck2_ (n=gentoo@gateway.gossamer-threads.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] and chmod 755 /etc/profile.d/mc.sh [10:21] and as both Urchlay (I think) and me already have confirmed it works just fine on slackware-12.2/current [10:21] k 1 sec [10:21] en1gma: do not ask me for help if that doesn't work [10:21] ok [10:22] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@130.136.4.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] I'm just throwing it out there, maybe it'll work... since I don't use either openwrt *or* mc, I've reached the limit of how much I care about them... [10:22] nille_: you mean that fan shouldn't be off by 63C, right? [10:22] sudo gedit /etc/profile.d/mc.sh [10:22] omg [10:23] grazymax (n=grazymax@host172-157-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] no i meant the 63C is a bit high if your not doing anything cpu intece [10:23] hehheh, I hope "omg" wasn't your password :) [10:24] nille_: i don't even run X now [10:24] only terminal [10:24] en1gma: one question for you: if it's a live CD, does that mean, when you reboot, any changes you made in /etc are wiped? [10:24] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] clean your cpu fan [10:24] or you will always have to hight fan speed [10:24] yea but i save alot of text files with linux commands on my usb stick [10:25] so it makes things quick [10:25] i do it with my raid to [10:25] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-31-178.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [10:25] always have to run some dmraid commands to get it mountable [10:26] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] i tried starting mc again and browsing to a dir and leaving it and it leaves you in the dir where you first called mc from [10:26] so we tried...but i remember using mc...not real long ago prob 2-3years and being able to browse to a dir and then quit and it would leave you in that dir [10:27] vdv does the air feel that warm around the fan holes in the laptop? [10:27] Action: Camarade_Tux wouldn't enjoy that behaviour [10:27] i cant remember..i just thought i had to type something in the mc input bar like ls [10:27] and then quit [10:27] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-153-225.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] en1gma: it works like that now, or at least for me on slackware-12.2 and -current. [10:27] nille_: think, yes [10:27] because it might be that it shows the wrong temp [10:28] then start by cleaning the fan [10:28] nille_: it's a new laptop, don't think that it's fan is dirty already [10:28] what do you have to do....you browse to a dir and then type something in the input bar such as ls then when you hit f10 or click quick you are in that browsed dir still? [10:28] en1gma: it won't work if typing "mc" actually runs /usr/bin/mc like your setup does. In order to change the current directory in the calling shell, it has to be a shell alias [10:28] well if it's new then the fan shouldn't be clogged [10:28] oh so slackware has always done it that way? [10:28] no wonder....freaking live cds i hate em [10:28] en1gma: yes. But that *isn't going to work* without mc being a shell alias to mc-wrapper.sh (which you may or may not even have) [10:29] en1gma: "start mc" -> "browse to a dir" -> press F10. presto. [10:29] they come in handy sometimes but they just dont compare to a real install [10:29] en1gma: very true [10:29] i need to get a spare drive [10:29] i just cant install linux dmraid onto a 4 drive raid0 [10:30] a 4 drive raid0 sounds like a loaded & cocked pistol pointed at your own foot [10:30] yea its messed me over a few times [10:30] (unless that's a typo and you meant "raid10" maybe) [10:30] just like lost 260gigs of info other day [10:30] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.35.92) joined ##slackware. [10:31] nah its raid"0" [10:31] Urchlay: so in other words: a real usuable point and click interface ;) [10:31] why don't you use raid5, raid6, or raid10? [10:31] raid0 with software raid is faster then a real hardware based controller [10:31] any of the above is better than crossing your fingers and hoping no drive ever fails [10:32] if you try and do raid in any other form (in software) then raid0 it really dogs the cpu [10:32] tck2 (n=gentoo@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:32] espicially raid5 [10:32] yes, but with raid0 you have 0 redundancy. Whatever the chances are of one drive failing, you have 4 times that chance of your array failing [10:32] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:32] yea i had one fail and then WD sent me a 160giger for the 80giger i sent them [10:32] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:33] i had 4x80s....so i called and told them that i needed the EXACT geometry and they sent me another 80gig free [10:33] whoot [10:33] I use raid1 and raid5 here on what would be considered a slow CPU these days (athlon64 1800MHz), and I don't notice the CPU being particilarly "dogged" [10:33] huh? [10:33] to bad each hard drive is not the same geometry :) [10:33] really? [10:33] they send you a 160G drive, you send it back and say it's too big? [10:33] yes, really [10:34] you *do* know that only the raid *partitions* have to be the same size, right? [10:34] vdv any reason for 12.1 if it's new? [10:34] you could have used the extra 80 gigs as a separate partition of its own [10:34] i seen it was a 160 when i got package and i called em up and bitched em out because when i RMA i made sure and told them i needed the same drive because i had 3 other matching drives for it [10:34] wtf [10:34] they told me then i could send all my drives in or just the broken one [10:34] you threw away 80 gigs of storage [10:35] i should have sent em all in...i bet they would have sent me back all 160s [10:35] i still got the 160 [10:35] nille_: just had 12.1 and was lazy to download 12.2 [10:35] I tell you something else: if one partition is bigger than the others, raid still works fine (it just ignores the extra space) [10:35] they told me i could have it becuase they read the notes about me specifically saying i wanted a 80giger [10:35] ah, you still got it, well that's cool then [10:35] i know thats what they told me too [10:36] got a 160 for free...i gave it to my dad....i could have used it for linux....grrr [10:36] now i need to find at least a 13giger for linux [10:36] eh, you probably owe your dad a lot more than a hard drive you didn't even pay for (you can never really pay your parents back...) [10:36] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] true [10:37] part of me wanted to keep it though..;) [10:37] a compressed true-image would just fit on it with full compression [10:37] it made about a 120gig image file [10:37] :) [10:38] Urchlay: you pay them back with grandchildren... [10:38] haha [10:39] yea they love baby sitting :) [10:39] s/pay/take\ revenge/ [10:39] vdv i would try to upgrade and hope it solves it i think your kernel might be to old [10:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [10:39] sacrifice the first 2 or 3.... should make them happy =p [10:39] nille_: installed cpufrequtils [10:39] BP{k}: lol [10:39] tue [10:39] true [10:40] nille_: cpufreq-info says that: no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this c [10:40] Necos: ergh. My mom has reached the point of desperation about ever having grandkids [10:40] I'm 36 & single [10:40] lol [10:40] my mom still has hope.... i'm 28 :P [10:40] she's started trying to hook me up with her friends (ones that are younger than her but still in their 40s) [10:41] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] lol [10:41] $$$ [10:41] just look for a "cougar" [10:41] kill 'em and take their money >.> [10:41] i get 1/2 be-atch [10:41] I have about decided, any 40+ year old woman who's single, is usually single because there's something fundamentally wrong with them [10:41] modprobe acpi-cpufreq [10:41] (the same probably applies to men too, including me...) [10:42] for sure... [10:42] me to [10:42] hahaha [10:42] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] Urchlay: stupidity is contagious.... [10:42] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:42] i wanna setup virtualization on this pc, how can i do that? [10:42] missyjane is 40+ [10:42] .... [10:42] i have a quad core [10:42] lol [10:42] time to make use of it [10:43] eh, I don't think my problem is stupidity... of course maybe I'm just too stupid to know it [10:43] i honestly think it's 98% luck [10:43] Urchlay: you poor soul ^_^ [10:43] ah, that explains it [10:43] annnyyonnnne? [10:43] it's ok, i'll end your suffering [10:43] luck does not exist in my world [10:44] missyjane: you need virtualization software, like VirtualBox [10:44] except bad luck... [10:44] lol [10:44] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:44] virtualbox [10:44] ok [10:44] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] hello happy slackers [10:45] or, one of my favorite lines from a TMBG song: "If it wasn't for disappointment, I wouldn't have any appointments" [10:45] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:45] noooooo theres no slackware package for virtualbox [10:45] smica (n=smica@94-21-80-165.pool.digikabel.hu) joined ##slackware. [10:45] slackbuilds.org missyjane [10:46] i gotta go setup these classrooms, so i'll bbl [10:46] ok [10:46] thanks necos i forgot about that [10:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:47] missyjane i use kvm and like it [10:47] :) thanks [10:48] is there any harm in constantly accessing ntfs system with ntfs-3g while on linux? [10:48] constantly reading, or writing too? [10:48] missyjane not realy but it could be [10:48] obviously, reading from it can't damage it (mount it read-only if you're paranoid) [10:49] nille_ what do you mean kvm? [10:49] missyjane you can't run an fix if it's not right umounted [10:49] ohh.... [10:49] writing too.. [10:49] cause i play music, load my background, etc from that mount (which happens to be ntfs) [10:49] so both constantly reading/writing [10:50] IIRC ntfs-3g is considered at least resonably safe. [10:50] bryanlharris http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/misc/kvm/ [10:50] hm ok [10:50] thank you [10:50] okay [10:50] hehheh... I imagine you saying that in the same tone as people say "happens to be gay" or "happens to be $minority"... like they think it's a big deal but they're pretending they don't think that [10:51] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [10:52] hm. She took off. I was gonna ask her how playing music and loading a background image constitute writing... [10:52] Urchlay: well dood.... you actually have to go out and meet people to increase your chances.... that's not encouragement, it's a fact, simple stats [10:52] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] en1gma (n=en1gma@12-203-116-113.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [10:53] antler: yeah. I in fact did go out & meet people on monday... would have gone out this weekend if my car weren't *still* in the shop [10:53] (actually there's still hope for tonight, the guy might actually have it done today, he works saturdays) [10:58] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Connection timed out [10:59] i know a guy in his sixties. a bitter old man. no family that he wishes to have contact with. no wife. completely alone. [10:59] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [10:59] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [11:00] maybe that's the way he prefers it, but that's no way to live (imo) [11:00] well unless he dies, I'll always have my brother to hang out with [11:01] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:01] is it possible to make a screenshot of two workspaces at the same time ? [11:02] lw0x15: maybe? Or you could take 2 screenshots and stitch them together (in the gimp, or with imagemagick) [11:02] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:03] antler: there was a man like that in minn. or wisconsin somewhere. he got alzheimers. they found him frozen to death, his power turned off for non-payment. [11:03] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:03] aggh [11:03] antler: he received the bills, and stapled cash to them, put them on the fridge (obviously thought they were paid) [11:03] he'd probably be alive if he had people who visited him. [11:04] eviljames: man that's sad [11:04] How's THAT for a saturday morning bringdown? [11:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [11:10] caturday [11:10] all you peeps in here with family around you.... go ahead, give them a hug, a kiss, or a pat on the back. go ahead. do it. i'll wait right here. [11:11] no car [11:11] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving." [11:11] arms not long enough to reach from here [11:11] antler, hmm, be back in 8 hours -_- [11:12] you guys could just call and say "hey" [11:13] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] if I called my mom just to say "hey" she'd probably think something was horribly wrong with me and call 911 [11:13] HeyHey_MyMy [11:13] rock & roll will never die [11:13] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:14] antler: Why, anyways? [11:15] it's better to burn out, than to fade away... [11:18] rock & roll is here to stay... [11:18] Action: eviljames has to go find that song now, I haen't heard it in ages [11:18] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:18] sajes: because eviljames told the story of an old man who froze to death because no one visited him :| [11:20] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.152.80) joined ##slackware. [11:21] eviljames: on monday, going back to the open mic place, I'll play that song for you... though you won't be able to hear it [11:21] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.144.74) left irc: "leaving" [11:21] record it. then youtube. [11:22] I think I should start going to open mic/open jam.. [11:22] antler: Ehm. the heat was turned off while he was asleep. How many times a month do you go to your parents house while they're asleep and check their heartrate? [11:22] wonder if they'd let us record there [11:22] sajes: that's not the whole story. the power was turned off due to non-payment. [11:23] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.115.121) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:23] sajes: when they found him, the bills were in the house with cash stapled to them. [11:23] eviljames: I know that. That's still not the point I'm trying to make. [11:23] sajes: The point you're trying to make is wholly inaccurate to what happened in this instance, though. [11:23] My point is that even if you didn't visit your parents, chances are that if that happened, you wouldn't be there at that time. [11:24] How can I override which dynamic libraries are used for a program? [11:24] LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesnt seem to do the trick [11:24] DralaFi: at runtime? [11:24] yes [11:24] he froze to death because either he wanted to die or his survival instinct was weak, i would start of damn fire before i freeze to death [11:25] Pig_Pen: he had alzheimers. you might not be the same with severe dementia... [11:25] the point is he died alone. period. [11:25] Pig_Pen: he had alzheimers, maybe he didn't notice he was freezing, or maybe he thought he made a fire or something [11:25] (and shouldn't have) [11:25] DralaFi: iirc, changing around stuff in ld.so.conf and then running ldconfig [11:25] that explains it [11:25] antler: There we go. That's what I was getting at. Poor guy died alone. [11:26] DralaFi: that's probably not the most elegant way to do it. [11:26] eviljames, I just want to change the libs for one program just so i can run it with debug libraries and so gdb will print a better stack trace [11:27] an alternative to rock&roll is here to stay : Metal IS For Ever ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HZ_u1zfC8 ) =) [11:27] DralaFi: Why won't ld-library-path work for you? Not linking to the right place? [11:27] DralaFi: are you confirming with ldd ? [11:27] eviljames, ldd shows it's still using the system libs... [11:28] Camarade_Tux: disagree. [11:28] ldd `which xsane` | grep -i sane libsane.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libsane.so.1 (0x00007f0fe81fb000) [11:28] The Book of Heavy Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgzFMPPH340 [11:29] DralaFi: "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/some:/paths/for:/usr/lib64 ldd `which xsane` ... [11:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] man every time i think heavy metal, i think Deep Purple "highway star" [11:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:30] eviljames, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ldd `which xsane` | grep -i sane [11:30] libsane.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libsane.so.1 (0x00007f1fe3847000) [11:30] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-153-225.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] slackware > * [11:30] DralaFi: was that copypasta? [11:30] eviljames, ? [11:30] DralaFi: because /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane didn't look right.. [11:31] oh. forgot the lib64 [11:31] heh, copypasta = copy/pasted in my strange language [11:31] LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ldd `which xsane` | grep -i sane [11:31] libsane.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libsane.so.1 (0x00007f95fd7d5000) [11:31] eviljames, why "disagree" ? [11:31] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-153-225.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:31] /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1.0.19: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped [11:32] Camarade_Tux: oh, not quite as simple as that, just thought of something different that's funny (at least to me). nvm :P [11:32] cylux (n=cylux@CPE00032f37fa0d-CM0014e825df0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:32] eviljames, he, I find it funny too ;) [11:32] "I'd die to become immortal.. that's why I play the guitar!!" hahah [11:32] Hey how do I install ttf fonts correctly? [11:33] mkdir ~/.fonts [11:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:33] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] greetings and salutations [11:34] Pig_Pen: I put the ttf font in there and ran fc-cache - now how do I ensure that it was installed correctly? [11:34] this is weird. the correct library should be loaded... [11:34] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-7-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] run some app like firefox and look in preferences and see if you can use that font [11:35] brklynRednek (n=ubuntu@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] Alright cool [11:35] DralaFi: is there a /opt/sane/debug/opt/sane/debug/lib64/libsane.so.1 ? [11:35] Awesome, it worked =] [11:36] DralaFi: /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1.0.19, do you have a symlink /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1 also? [11:36] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-06-13 16:17 /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1 -> libsane.so.1.0.19* [11:36] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 67322 2009-06-13 16:17 /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1.0.19* [11:37] And it's picked up by ldconfig.... [11:37] OK. Hm. [11:37] Action: brklynRednek kneels before executioner's axe [11:37] i've betrayed slackware [11:37] so try this: LD_PRELOAD=/opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1 xsane [11:37] as in ldconfig -p | grep -i sane has libsane.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1 [11:38] Urchlay, yes I thought about preload, but there seem to be many sane libs that it might be a bit impractical. The LD_LIBRARY_PATH should work though. Let me try preload... [11:38] it's possible the path to the lib was hard-coded into the app at build time with -Wl,rpath [11:39] LD_PRELOAD=/opt/debug/sane/opt/debug/sane/lib64/libsane.so.1 xsane worked [11:39] I *hate* when apps do that, don't understand why it's ever considered a good idea (except in the special case where a lib.so is going to be installed in a private directory) [11:39] indeed [11:43] argh. I dont have libsane-hpaio.so.1 in my debug library list :/ [11:43] hopefully you don't end up having to list the full path to every one of your sane-related libs in LD_PRELOAD [11:44] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-7-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:44] gah!! it's it the hplip package :| [11:44] but you *can* do that (whitespace-separated, not colon-separated like LD_LIBRARY_PATH) [11:44] d'oh! [11:44] tell that HP "don't gimme no lip!" [11:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Urchlay, I know. Already had to list 2 libs and the full path :/ I might just write a small script to do it. The problem comes in trying to get gdb to preload the correct library - no idea how to do that :/ [11:45] i0d[R] (n=i0d[R]@187.40.64.75) joined ##slackware. [11:45] could just cause xsane to make a coredump and then get gdb to look at it later [11:45] hrr, I use gdb infrequently enough that all I ever do is read the help... [11:45] what's the actual problem you're debugging? [11:46] Urchlay, I want to scan something on my HP PSC 2175 with xsane, but xsane segfaults... [11:47] yuck [11:47] xsane hpaio: [11:47] Segmentation fault [11:47] I suppose you already tried strace? [11:48] sendto(8, "<11>Jun 13 16:50:41 xsane: io/hp"..., 65, MSG_NOSIGNAL, NULL, 0) = 65 [11:48] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- [11:48] yeah, not real informative [11:48] tbh, strace is not massively useful here [11:48] it usually isn't for memory allocation/management type errors [11:49] #0 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () [11:49] #1 0x00007feee21b9656 in hpmud_open_device () from /usr/lib64/libhpmud.so.0 [11:49] going to need a real gdb backtrace... [11:49] ergh [11:49] but no debug info :) [11:49] 0x0000000000000000 means it tried to call a function through a null pointer [11:50] How Upgrade Slack 12.2 -> Current without problems !? Help-me please =) [11:50] i'm on http://bugs.slamd64.com/enter_bug.cgi and i want to obtain a real backtrace before I submit... [11:50] >.< [11:50] pastebin [11:50] Urchlay, indeed [11:50] TwinReverb, was that to me? [11:50] i0d[R]: read the docs [11:50] you might have a look at hpmud_open_device(), stick a fprintf(stderr, "%x\n", whatever_pointer_it_is); [11:50] thrice`, what ? [11:50] TwinReverb: it was only 2 lines, the channel rule is 4 or less [11:51] i0d[R]: are you literate ? [11:51] thrice`, what doc ? [11:51] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:51] http://pastebin.com/m78028805 [11:51] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:51] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [11:51] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [11:52] ...then figure out why that pointer's not gettin initialized, or is getting set to zero... loads o' fun [11:52] thrice`, thanks [11:52] Urchlay, I could debug and maybe even fix it, if I could get a sensible backtrace. [11:53] DralaFi, Urchlay i wasn't getting on anyone's case, i was only suggesting that maybe it would be easier to parse using a pastebin, that's all [11:53] you might have enough there to start investigating [11:53] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:53] TwinReverb, I completely agree. I was actually debating with myself if it would be better to just pastebin everything :) [11:54] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] it's all good bro 8-) [11:55] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:56] brklynRednek (n=ubuntu@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] DralaFi: hey, does your actual xsane binary have debug symbols too? [11:58] those 3 ?? entries look like they're maybe from a stripped /usr/bin/xsane [11:59] yes that xsane is the default stripped one [12:00] i suspect the fault is in the sane libs, as xsane is just a gui front end. and the bt goes into the libs just before frame 0 [12:00] so most likely the problem is in frame 1 [12:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] ls [12:01] denied!! [12:01] dios2 (i=FREELOVE@88.241.141.192) joined ##slackware. [12:01] 0 files [12:02] #6 in the list is probably just main() from /usr/bin/xsane [12:03] #13 and up are irrelevant as I'm sure you already know [12:03] eh, line 13 (bt entry #8) [12:04] yup [12:04] if /usr/bin/xsane is stripped , how is this bin useful for backtrace ? [12:04] anyway, must shower and go to shop. i'll recompile the hplip and xsane packages with debug and try again when i get back [12:05] so if i'm coppying the source for ncftp from the slack dvd to my system I should copy it to /usr/local/src and then compile ? [12:05] cadmium-sulfide, why not install the ncftp package ? [12:05] cadmium-sulfide: I thought you were gonna do it as a slackware .tgz package? [12:05] Deeeep, cause i'm gonna mess with the source first.. [12:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:06] cadmium-sulfide: it doesn't matter at all where you stick the source, compiler doesn't care. I tend to use ~/slackbuilds/ [12:07] oh yeah i'm dense.. i'm talking about a package... [12:07] actually i'm denser.. i'm talking about the source on the dvd in /cdrom/source/n/ncftp... [12:07] you're used to *BSD, I bet [12:07] i'm just not that experienced... [12:07] lil bit BSD though yes.. [12:08] "cp -r /cdrom/source/n/ncftp ~/ncftp" or whatever [12:08] i know the system doesn't care where i compile.. but cononically speaking shouldn't i put my source in /usr/local/src ? [12:08] as opposed to say ~/ [12:08] after you've done that, check & make sure you can "cd ~/ncftp ; sudo sh ncftp.SlackBuild" and get a package built (it'll end up in /tmp) [12:09] eh, /usr/local/src implies you're logged in as root, running the compiler as root, which I prefer to avoid [12:09] Urchlay, u know how to answer my question ? [12:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] DeeeeP: sorry, what was the question? [12:09] hahaha, microsoft wants not to bundle IE8 in any windows in europe :) [12:09] if /usr/bin/xsane is stripped , how is this bin useful for backtrace ? [12:09] so what do we use /usr/local/src for then ? [12:10] Camarade_Tux, only in europe , not bundles ? [12:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:10] DeeeeP: because xsane works by loading DLLs (.so libs) to do the backend stuff, and those have symbols (his do, anyway), and I suspect the error is inside the .so library [12:10] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.26.103) joined ##slackware. [12:10] how will windows users install first browser then ? [12:10] cadmium-sulfide: honestly I don't use it for anything :) [12:10] DeeeeP: ftp.exe :) [12:11] DeeeeP, up to the OEM [12:11] Urchlay, LOL ! [12:11] :) [12:11] up to the OEM , what do u mean [12:12] hmm :( i like /usr/local/src :D if i'm going to make install i have to be root anyhows right ? so why be non-root for make and then root for make install ? [12:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:12] Action: BP{k} runs make as root :) [12:12] cadmium-sulfide: I suppose if I were building a lot of stuff without making slack packages out of it, I'd keep the tarballs of all the sources I build in /usr/local/src (since the binaries would be in /usr/local/bin) [12:12] DeeeeP, the OEM would have to install a browser by itself : ff, opera, chrome (IE?) [12:12] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@125.33.141.7) joined ##slackware. [12:13] to bad if you don't by it from a OEM [12:13] Urlchay, is it a security risk to store source in /usr/local/src and change permissions to 775 for /usr/local/src ? [12:13] then you would have to go though extra steps unless they add a program to pick the browser [12:13] cadmium-sulfide: well, if you're making a slackware package, then you install it, your new binary will be /usr/bin/ncftp (not in /usr/local)... up to you, as always [12:14] cadmium-sulfide: on a single-user box not directly on the internet, probably fine. Or you could just chown it to your user... [12:14] kitche, you should be able to get one by yourself then [12:14] Camarade_Tux: umm yeah by using what just a thumbdrive or something? [12:14] and the EU commission is not satisfied : it wants the consumer to have "true consumer choice", and that includes being able to get IE [12:14] why would you build ncftp, *without* a slackbuild anyway? [12:15] BP{k}: hopefully he isn't :) [12:15] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [12:15] rizitis (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("Time makes no sense"). [12:15] i build lots of packages without using a slackbuild [12:15] Urlchay, so when you make install binaries go to /usr/local/bin and when you install from a package they go to /usr/bin ? [12:15] cadmium-sulfide: correct [12:15] kitche, do many people really buy a retail version ? I bet most of those who do already have something on their OS [12:15] s/OS/machine/ [12:15] cadmium-sulfide: if the package was build to put it in /usr/bin, yes. [12:16] cadmium-sulfide: what I'm talking about you doing, is making your own package (with your patched source) [12:16] slackware-12.2/source/n/ncftp/ncftp.SlackBuild <-- ;-] [12:16] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.243.103.101) left irc: Connection timed out [12:16] Urlchay, right so the modified ncftp will be /usr/bin/ncftp if i do everything properly making a package.. [12:16] tooly (n=theo@e178135019.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:16] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [12:16] cadmium-sulfide: correct. [12:17] BP{k}: what you're reading now is a continuation of a conversation from 2 days ago, he already got that far :) [12:17] yep [12:17] Urchlay: ah fair enough. Allow me to gracefully bow out and find beer ;) [12:17] good news everyone! [12:17] someone used slackpkg for upgrade slackware 12.2 > current here ? [12:17] I just found out my car's finally fixed [12:17] beer: its whats for dinner.. [12:17] i need tips for this [12:18] now you can go buy beer more easilly :P [12:18] beer: it's not just for breakfast! [12:18] i0d[R]: yes. [12:18] i0d[R]: perhaps framing a better question, might give you the answers you want. :-) [12:19] BP{k}, i can post in your window the steps that i`ll take [12:19] ? [12:19] i0d[R]: No, you most absolutely can not. You can ask your question here. [12:20] i0d[R]: personal support is only available after I have received a bottle of single islay malt whisky ages at least 10 years. >:-) [12:20] s/ages/aged/ [12:20] xD lol [12:20] i0d[R]: what's wrong with ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [12:20] BP{k}, if i use ext3 i need a "re-ramdisk" ? [12:20] ? [12:20] Urchlay, --` [12:20] i0d[R]: you need a /what/ ? [12:21] i0d[R]: also slackware-current .. really expect you to know what to do. [12:21] make initial ramdisk if you use reiserfs, raid or whatever that needs it (very good instructions in /boot/Readme.initrd) <- this [12:21] slackpkg doesn't require a ramdisk. [12:21] I don't think ext3 needs an initrd. But if it does, follow those directions... [12:21] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.45.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:21] will work for Don Perignon... [12:22] BP{k}, ok! [12:22] cadmium-sulfide: well yeah .. I am flexible ;) [12:22] thanks =) [12:22] i0d[R]: however .... [12:22] the normal smp-kernel will most like need one. (the huge-smp wont) [12:22] cadmium-sulfide: I saw one of those guys on the side of the road holing up a sign that said "Won't lie - need beer money" [12:23] s/holing/holding/ [12:23] what i need install for txz.gz ? [12:23] i0d[R]: uhm.... [12:23] tck2_ (n=gentoo@gateway.gossamer-threads.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:23] O.o [12:23] i0d[R]: you are *most* surely not ready for -current. [12:24] As a small boy I once wondered into a trash pile in the woods.. I was jumping up to try to look at a bird I was trying to hit with a rock.. a bum stumbled out of no where and accused me of disturbing his home... i looked down and realized i was standing on an old matress surrounded by trash... [12:24] timidboy (n=timidboy@2001:0:4137:9e50:0:fbee:42f1:3be6) left irc: [12:24] cadmium-sulfide: creeepy [12:24] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@125.33.141.7) left irc: "leaving" [12:24] BP{k}, ok i`ll try [12:24] my recommendation is usually to boot huge-smp then download a kernel tarball, use the generic-smp config and just specify your CPU type and your filesystem, usually that's enough to get you a much leaner kernel [12:24] then if you want you can edit out what you really don't need but it's up to you [12:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.216) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] cadmium-sulfide: once I worked in a pizza place, was throwing out old pizza dough at the end of the night (like 100lbs of it). Tipped trashcan into dumpster, giant mass of dough goes *plop*, and I hear a grunt, then a voice saying "What the hell?!" [12:26] poor guy, he was already miserable enough to sleep in a dumpster, and I just dropped 100lbs of fermenting pizza dough on top of him. I felt so bad, he got a free pizza... [12:27] Urrchlay, did he continue to come back after that ? [12:27] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-63-167.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:27] didn't see him again [12:27] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-126-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [12:27] I actually semi-knew the guy (he was a senior in HS when I was a freshman) [12:28] of all the places to sleep homeless! [12:28] thats rough... [12:28] sleeping in dumpsters is dangerous.. you could end up in the trash compactor.. [12:29] not if u know when trash compactor passes by :) [12:29] i would improvise a tent from a tarp or something waterproof, and a piece of foam for a matteress [12:30] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [12:31] common sense would dictate you don't sleep in restaurant dumpsters anyway [12:31] find a nice office dumpster full of paper products [12:32] heh, or the one behind the Sears outlet, which is often full of clothes, carpet, and maybe even pillows [12:32] hope some teenagers dont come by and set the dumpster on fire ;p [12:32] Pig_Pen: that could happen to you in your house too though :( [12:32] i dove into some cellphone company dumpsters back in my alt2600 days... [12:32] used to dumpster dive behind computer stores and sometimes in office parks [12:33] yeah !! slackware-current once found a giant box of 5 1/4" floppies with customer financial data on 'em [12:33] i have an ADT alarm that goes off even if i drop a glass in the kitchen, i know i did drop a glass when i was getting a drink of water in the middle of the night, if some teenager comes around to vandalize i will know it [12:33] (all I wanted them for was to reformat though) [12:33] i installed package tar, file, xz, pkgtools, etc.. [12:33] it`s simple =) [12:34] i thought the guy from ADT was full of crap when he said there is a sensor that is tuned to the sound of breaking glass, well he was not full of crap [12:34] neat [12:34] i war dialed my entire county once... [12:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.31.66) joined ##slackware. [12:35] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-126-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [12:35] cadmium-sulfide: back in the 80s, if you had one pager number, you had 1000 of them (555-0000 thru 555-9999 e.g.) [12:35] er, 10,000 [12:35] i0d[R] (n=i0d[R]@187.40.64.75) left irc: "Leaving" [12:36] I dialed 10,000 pagers with my modem, and dialed this one guy's phone number into each & every one of them [12:36] Urlchay, mostly I got alot of dr's offices running pc anywhere... [12:36] (eh, well, I didn't let it run long enough to really dial all of them, but several hundred anyway) [12:36] i did get several banks and the power company [12:36] Urchlay, i need to figure out a way for all the phones inside a stadium to ring.. like at t he graduation yesterday [12:36] that would be hilarious [12:36] use an asterisk script :) [12:37] so this guy's getting calls for 3 days straight every 5 minutes... "Did you page me?" [12:37] asterisk sucks [12:37] thats funny.. [12:37] jeev compaired to what ? call manager ? [12:37] freeswitch [12:37] cadmium-sulfide: eh, in 1984? 300 baud modem and Atari BASIC program... [12:38] This would have been in like 1994 ... [12:38] why did u do it , Urchlay ? [12:38] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] i was born in 81 so I cought the tail end of all that alt2600 crazyness [12:38] jeev: how many phones? you could just give one number to each person in the crowd, and have them dial them on their cell phones... have to synchronize it somehow (maybe they all watch you, and you wave your arms when it's time) [12:39] DeeeeP: because the guy was a liar, thief, and general asshole... and bigger than me so I couldn't just go break his nose [12:39] lol [12:39] Urchlay did you ever run the program catcall ? [12:39] sounds reasonable [12:39] catcall? don't know it [12:39] you could attack peoples phone numbers and schedule "wakeup calls" for them.. [12:40] i think it was a win-dos programm.. [12:41] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:41] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:42] hmmm, lunch. BRB. [12:42] Urchlay, i dont know man why would i organize suh thing [12:42] ! [12:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:42] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] jeev: eh? [12:44] so if you have the same program in /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin which one will take presidence in bash ? I assume /usr/local/bin would because that comes first in the PATH variable. [12:45] use the full path if you one to choose one over the other [12:45] want* [12:46] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:47] it goes by the order of it in PATH [12:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] unless you use the exact path of course [12:49] cadmium-sulfide: but don't do /usr/local/bin, it's best to start developing good habits right away [12:49] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:49] you're already writing a patch in C, adding a line to the SlackBuild isn't going to be much more work [12:49] your good habits might be different then someone elses [12:50] Urchlay.. ok i was wondering towards make install but I will get out of root and do things properly :) [12:50] eh, making slackbuilds vs. "make install" in /usr/local... I'm not the only one who thinks the first is a good habit and the 2nd is a bad one [12:51] Urchlay: you just said don't do /usr/local/bin nothing about Slackbuilds [12:52] ahh, you missed the first bit of this conversation (which was like 2 days ago) [12:52] hmmmm is make install basically a security issue ? or does it have to do with removing the new install when your done v's a package which can remove things more cleanly and track what you have installed ? [12:52] the latter [12:52] Urchlay: which I been in this channel for longer then 2 days [12:52] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.12.186) joined ##slackware. [12:52] clean removal/upgrade. Not security related [12:52] Well, in most cases. ;) [12:53] cadmium-sulfide: just makes admining easier for some people [12:53] kitchie, basically i wanna modify ncftp so that it can specify a source address [12:53] kitche: sure, but you were probably sleeping some time in those days... [12:53] kindof like ping -I [12:53] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-89-174-121-237.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [12:54] yup, use a SlackBuild unless you are absolutly certain the source code & Makefile supports DESTDIR or INSTALL_ROOT for building your own packages [12:54] *yawn* [12:55] or just use prefix like I do when compiling code by hand [12:56] well since this is regarding ncftp which is part of slackware, using a slackware's slackbuild script to upgrad the package (and prevent programs and libs being double on your system, is highly recommended) [12:57] k, for somereason i enjoy make install i'll try and break myself of it but I find myself wanting to do it.. :( [12:57] reading slackbuilds.org... [12:58] cadmium-sulfide, that won't last long : you'll soon realize how much "make install" pollutes your system ;) [12:59] cadmium-sulfide: well first job is to develop your patch [12:59] which you'll likely want to test without having to "make install" or run a script every time you change it (just ./ncftp -args in the build dir) [12:59] allend (n=allend@CPE-58-165-63-167.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:00] make install DESTDIR=/tmp/pkg then use makepkg to build a package out of it so you can slackware's package management tools to install, upgrade or remove when that time comes [13:00] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.12.186) left irc: ":wq" [13:00] but beware, not all source/Makefile supports DESTDIR [13:01] most do, but not all [13:01] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [13:02] Urchlay, ./ncftp -args in the build dir" went over my head i think i need to start with following the directions on slackbuild? [13:03] then learn to make the package then make a coding change.. [13:03] ? [13:03] well hang on now [13:03] there are 2 parts to it [13:04] part 1 is where you figure out how to change the ncftp sources to do what you want, likely including many compile/test/recompile cycles [13:04] during part 1, you aren't doing anything slackware-specific at all. You're just doing standard UNIX-flavored development stuff [13:04] right but.. when i make a change the first think i'm going to want to do is make install... to test it.. [13:04] don't need to [13:04] then what do i do ? [13:05] when you make a change, you can run your modified binary from within the build directory, with e.g. ./ncftp [13:05] ahh [13:05] okies [13:05] (or maybe ./src/ncftp, depends how the project is laid out) [13:06] when you're happy with your changes, use "diff" to make a patch file. Here endeth part 1... [13:06] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-7-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] got it [13:06] i'll clue in for part 2 when i'm ready :) [13:06] and just take one bite at a time :) [13:06] part 2 is much simpler, if it's any consolation :) [13:06] yeah, when im ready i'll come sluthing around for part 2 :) [13:07] depending on your level of expertise in C or whatever it's written in, part 1 could take minute, hours, days, or ...? [13:07] i have no idea.. [13:07] part 2 probably takes more typing to explain it, than it does to actually do :) [13:07] gonna look at ping source.. then try to adapt to ncftp [13:07] sounds like a reasonable plan [13:08] if you're pretty new to C (or at least, to C on Linux), bear in mind there are man pages for all the library & system calls, so if you see e.g. sendto() used, you can "man sendto" to see WTF it does [13:08] then write a diff (which i aslo have to read up on) cause i don't know shit about running diff.. and its way to documented to annoy people on IRC for :) [13:09] diff is pretty easy to use [13:09] yeah.. diff.. [13:09] i also have tcp/ip network programming volume 1-3 here.. [13:09] the one by Richard Stevens? *very* good thing to have [13:10] * internetworking with TCP/IP by douglas comer [13:10] ah, I don't know that one [13:10] unix network programming.. [13:10] i have it here.. richard stevens.. [13:10] volume 1 and 2 [13:10] but if it's 3 volumes it probably has lots of good stuff [13:11] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:14] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@79.101.89.245) joined ##slackware. [13:15] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:15] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [13:16] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:16] also, if you're just starting out with Linux but know at least some C already, I might recommend "beginning linux programming" from wrox press [13:17] i have that book in pdf somewhere >.> [13:17] if you know some c, you can always look at the source [13:17] he's already doing that [13:18] why do you want to commit suicide by code? [13:18] We have tty1-6 turned off when Xserver is running, ---to save system resources? or...? [13:18] the books are to answer all the questions he's going to want to ask while reading the code... [13:18] te, 6 isnt off [13:18] no tty should not work when X is running [13:18] tank-man: Yes, sorry, 1-5 is what I ment.. [13:20] Where is that setting? [13:20] tcp/ip by richard stevens is awesome... my boss bought the set for the office [13:20] te: /etc/inittab [13:20] it's the benefit of working for a public school [13:20] Necos: nice [13:21] we have tons of ref books ^_^ [13:21] I'm known to buy my own work-related books, write my name all over them in sharpie, and leave them on a shelf in the office [13:21] but I finally quit doing that because nobody ever read them :( [13:21] i have my own books on the shelves too [13:21] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [13:22] and then i have a nearly full bookcase at home with ref books... it's crazy [13:22] Action: jeev kicks Necos [13:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:22] Action: Necos stabs jeev aka Mr. Glendale [13:22] mnan [13:22] was at UCLA graduiation yesterday [13:22] grad [13:22] itw as so boring [13:22] my dad (phone/switchboard tech) used to have to carry some giant manual around with him... he wrote on it "Please steal this book, I am tired of carrying it" [13:22] oh wtf? [13:22] jeev you bastard ^^ [13:23] lol Urchlay [13:23] necos, so many hot girls hehe [13:23] lol Urchlay [13:23] necos, stop copying and pasting my shit [13:23] i dont want your shit... [13:23] :> [13:23] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] i'm at work again today jeev =p [13:24] JROTC is doing their all-city competition [13:25] if you download a 1MB file.. the total transfer volume would be larger because of tcp/ip overhead would it not ? [13:25] heh [13:25] cadmium-sulfide: of course [13:25] i should go to the office today [13:25] and do nothing [13:25] speakin of my dad, he just showed up. BBL dudes... [13:25] lol later Urchlay [13:25] later [13:25] laters.. [13:25] jeev, i've been here since 6am [13:25] why [13:25] that's when it started ; ; [13:25] what do you do [13:26] so.. if i use a 1MB file and a timer to calculate the transfer time of the file download to calculate the network bandwidth... how would I account for the tcp/ip overhead ? [13:26] had to setup the lights for the testing area, projectors and laptops for the presentations [13:26] maximum ethernet frame size is 1500 bytes [13:26] gizay [13:27] and it's fucking raining now, so imagine how fun it'll be carting that shit back up to my office after they're done [13:27] it is ? [13:27] it's just foggy here [13:27] look outside you ass >.<; [13:27] i do you turd [13:27] it's foggy [13:27] as far as i could see [13:27] and i could see downtown from here lol [13:27] stick your head out the window [13:27] =p [13:28] i mean i cant see it right now [13:28] IT'S FOGGY YOU TURD [13:28] visibility is probably 6 miles [13:28] and jump out the window while you're at it ^_^ [13:28] i'll fall down the mountain [13:28] where are you guys from ? [13:29] planet earth [13:29] lol [13:29] hong kong [13:29] ohh.. [13:29] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [13:29] hong kong ^^ [13:29] i have to go to hong kong at the end of the month... [13:29] oh [13:29] to impliment a QOS policy .. [13:29] damnit [13:29] whois failed me again [13:29] ewwww [13:29] we're from newthk [13:30] to be more precise i live just a few miles outside a little redneck town in southeast oklahoma [13:30] using freebsd, ipfw and dummynet... as a transparent bridge [13:30] we use speedcast.com as our isp [13:30] no we live in los angeles [13:30] i see... [13:30] ahh whell fog and mountains are nice.. [13:30] im in the fucking desert... [13:30] i live in la, he lives in the san fernando valley =p [13:30] which is about 12 mi away [13:31] i'm afraid to move to CA because of the sizemic activity [13:31] i was thinking of photographing at GP later tonight, but fuck that now... [13:31] cali is going to fall in to the ocean any day now [13:31] yep :P i figure it will happen in my lifetime.. [13:31] man [13:31] no, we have people working on that... we're moving to canada [13:32] earthquakes are nothing [13:32] canada is nice.. i'm from michigan orginally... [13:32] since they like medical marijuana too [13:32] yes... [13:32] actually in AnnArbor MI, weed is decriminalized.. [13:32] its like getting a traffic ticket.. [13:32] lol [13:33] except the feds can step in and flatten you at any moment still ;) [13:33] in soviet russia... [13:33] weed should be legalized like alcohol, over 18 or 21 allowed [13:33] if Shwarzeneger would allow weed in CA I might move there... [13:33] if it were, it's be like cigarettes [13:33] no, then the politicians wont get kickbacks [13:34] I visited Pakistan recently.. weed grows everywhere...along the highway.. in peoples back yard.. etc.. [13:34] the goverment would have a hand in it, it'd be butt-weed expensive and not enough per pack [13:34] they would make more money in taxes selling it [13:34] then they'd be hit by drug dealers =p [13:34] i would grow my own if it was legalized [13:34] i wish we all lived in soviet russia [13:34] like it was still going on [13:34] would be awesome [13:35] legalized, there would likely be non growing lawz [13:35] having an actual national anthem to salute to [13:35] or very small amount and no sales aloud [13:35] Buy cubanese cigars. They will smash your head. [13:35] my mom used to grow weed on her balcony when i was a kid... she thought i didn't know what it was lol [13:35] lol [13:35] Necos~ didnt she notice all the buds dissapearing :)) [13:35] I once had an idea called "project weed seed" the point was to go plant weed all over the county and record the gps locations.. then return for harvest in the fall [13:36] lol cadmium-sulfide [13:36] i never did it though [13:36] been there, tried that [13:36] fails badly [13:36] linux_probe: i don't smoke weed anyway [13:36] anything over a tiny amount is too detectable, [13:36] i tried once, didn't like it [13:36] about 10 yrs ago [13:36] i work for the gov so i can't now anyhow.. [13:36] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:36] satellite, helciopters, planes [13:37] helicopters too =p [13:37] i'm working on a potato/weed hybrid so the weed will grow undeground like a potato... [13:37] lol [13:37] haha [13:37] linux_probe: already got your morning dose? =p [13:37] that would redefine "dirt"weed [13:37] the Simpson's Tomacco [13:38] tomacco ftw! [13:38] i've not smoked in years ( too much alcohol last night into the wee hours [13:38] yeah tomoacco.. good reference.. :P [13:38] except it will be called pot'tato [13:38] good one :D [13:38] yeah.. i don't see getting a nobel laureat for that but.. [13:39] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [13:39] you'll likely get crucified and hung by your toenails [13:39] why not? it could be used to grow anything with a potato =p [13:39] i like the indica brands better than the sativa brands [13:39] i heard the potato saved the irish from famin [13:39] hi all, does someone use thttpd? [13:39] yes & no [13:39] Action: linux_probe debates how we got onot such topic in #slackware [13:39] lol [13:39] Action: linux_probe has to go now, bye bye [13:40] later linux_probe [13:40] linux_probe I equate off handed conversations as equilent to the daily "fortune" which is how I justify it... [13:40] the irish did grow lots of potatos but they all grew one variety of potato that was vulnerable to a blight and when their potatoes rotted in the grownd it caused a famine [13:40] / [13:41] the irish liked the lumper potato, easy to grow but not very hearty against disease [13:41] ah lak arsh taters [13:42] tradition dies hard [13:42] apparently the topic is now potatos for $500 [13:43] i'll take "i'm not eating potatoes for a month" for $300 [13:43] the potato was imported from south america to europe, they used to think the potato & tomato was poisonous because they are both from the same family of plants as nightshade [13:44] awesome! [13:44] some people still think potatoes are poisonous [13:44] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7418D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] they say potatoes can be poisonous well it can be a drug anyways [13:44] potatos exposed to sunlight are poisonous, dont eat a potato that has green skin, [13:44] vodka [13:45] y0 people [13:45] potato vodka is gross [13:45] y0 [13:45] what is potoato vodka? [13:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato#Toxicity [13:45] alchaholic drinks for $200 [13:45] cadmium-sulfide: vodka made out of potatoes [13:45] you can ferment potato the same as grain [13:46] i was giong with the jepardy analogy.. i know what it is :) [13:46] lol [13:46] jeopardy... fails =p [13:46] yeah drinking potatos sounds fucking gross [13:46] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:47] From the same page: "Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew" -Samwise Gamgee [13:47] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:47] Greetings everyone. :) [13:47] heya firebird619 [13:47] Hey Necos, how's it going? [13:47] i've been at work since 6am [13:47] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:48] how long do you have to work until? [13:48] 6pm i think [13:48] i bette get 12hrs of OT for this shit [13:48] haha, hopefully. :) [13:49] the schools are always good for screwing people out of OT >.> [13:49] Necos, an emergency? [13:49] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) joined ##slackware. [13:49] especially with furlough days a'comin [13:49] Hi nachox [13:49] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] hey guys [13:50] no, there's an event going on today, and i was the only one stu... brave enough to be support for it [13:50] nachox: how are you? [13:50] heya nachox [13:51] doing fine, listening to a CISSP audiobook [13:51] and now that i have some free time, spending time here :) [13:51] heh [13:51] the noobfarm entry is up ^-^ [13:51] which one? [13:51] >.> [13:51] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1553 [13:51] from yesterday [13:52] slackytude: haha, nice. [13:52] >.> [13:52] fail [13:52] lol [13:53] ^-^ [13:53] wtf is he talking about? that LFjob guy... [13:54] kunal (n=kunal@ppp-124-120-218-137.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [13:54] was he trying to promote some turn-key shit? [13:54] that quote from yesterday is the worst thing i'/ve ever seen [13:54] tiz not funnies [13:56] hey i am totally new and i need help: how do i install HALO? <---- lol [13:56] Necos, he was talking about how good turn-key solutions were [13:56] since iptables only filters layer 7 [13:56] >.> [13:57] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-222-205-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:15] jeev's lol [14:22] te (n=te@adsl-68-94-7-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-8-65.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:24] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.102) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Greetings from Southeast LinuxFest! :-) [14:25] robbie :) [14:25] i was reading your presentation on firewalls... slackytude linked me [14:26] ooops, TR did... [14:26] correction [14:26] rworkman, say hello [14:26] slackytude: hello [14:27] :) [14:27] rworkman, I mean give greeting to the crowd ^-^ [14:27] lol [14:27] haha [14:27] is he live in radio ? [14:27] slackytude: but that's not as funny. [14:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [14:27] :( [14:27] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] All of the presentations from SELF were recorded live and will be made available soon. [14:28] Chris DiBona (Google) is talking to a packed house right now. OpenStreetMap and KDE in other rooms. [14:28] rworkman: don't forget to link. [14:28] I had a good crowd for my firewall talk this morning too. [14:28] stybla: I'll ping the channel, and I'm sure I'll have a blog entry about it too [14:28] rworkman, nice :D [14:28] smica (n=smica@94-21-80-165.pool.digikabel.hu) left irc: [14:29] rworkman: i don't have your blog, i think. ummm do you do slackbuilds? [14:29] stybla: http://blog.rlworkman.net and yes, I'm rworkman@ :) [14:29] stybla, just google for "rworkman slackware packages" [14:29] interesting rworkman is here, greetings.. [14:30] cadmium-sulfide: greets [14:30] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:30] suid0: ola [14:30] rworkman, you rock btw 8-) [14:30] rworkman: i've never seen this one, but may be you've changed design "lately" ... whatever :) [14:30] by physical science do you mean computers or like botany, etc [14:30] ? [14:31] rworkman: hiyas, Tell DiBona android should run on Slack :) [14:31] TwinReverb: Introductory Chemistry & Physics [14:31] i'm running ipsets on slackware in production [14:31] hey rworkman... any reason why you didn't mention iptables-save and iptables-restore in your presentation? [14:31] ipsets? [14:31] stybla: I changed the blog template about two years ago, but the location has always ben the same [14:32] Necos: I did kinda. It's in the pdf, but I ran out of time to actually talk about it [14:32] yeah when you are dealing with a large number of hosts you can create an ipset and just apply the rule to the set [14:32] kindof like pf tables i guess [14:32] i'm on page 30, and didn't notice it yet [14:32] I intended to talk about those, but I only had 50 minutes :/ [14:32] rworkman, ah [14:32] Necos, he did mention it [14:32] cadmium-sulfide: yeah, ipsets are nice for that [14:32] rworkman: haha, then i don't know. i've bookmarked it though and i'll check it out later for updates ;) [14:32] now days math is physics is chemistry is biology :) [14:32] NyteOwl: :) [14:33] oh, it's on page 32 ^^ [14:33] i found it TR =p [14:33] i'm not sure if math is physics or physics is math :) i guess physics defines our universe which defines math :) [14:33] pics dont work nice in slack what do i need to add :o [14:33] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-31-178.singnet.com.sg) left irc: "Leaving." [14:33] physicists are better mathematicians than mathematicians (said to me by my linear algebra professor) [14:33] gubbe: define "don't work nice." [14:34] so ... does anyone do any decent audio editing with slackware? if you do, what program(s) do you use to do it? i recently wished i had audacity installed to do some editing but then i remembered all the gnome libs it takes (last time i checked) and forgot about it [14:34] rworkman: .jpgs and stuf are just blak [14:34] cadmium-sulfide: physics is a method to describe the apparent rulesby which the universe functions, expressed in mathematics :p [14:34] black* [14:34] TwinReverb: eh? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/audacity/ [14:34] just wxgtk, TwinReverb ask firebird619 he did an audacity install recently [14:35] gubbe: I suspect a graphics chipset issue; I had that with an older ati radeon chipset [14:35] lol [14:35] oh wow, i guess they changed some stuff up [14:35] There are probably some xorg.conf tweaks you could do but I just bought a new laptop to fix the problem :) [14:35] rworkman: ir a old ibm thinkpad t42 with radeon [14:35] :D [14:35] its* [14:36] still trying to get svgalib_helper to load on slack, when i modprobe svgalib_helper i get an error about the wrong module type [14:36] gubbe: bingo. I had a T41. [14:36] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Computer has gone to sleep" [14:36] i've been using slackware longer than you rworkman? >.> [14:36] Necos: quite possibly. Lots of people have. [14:36] rworkman: no workarond ? [14:36] gubbe: not that I found. I cussed at it a lot though. [14:36] wow... [14:36] kk [14:36] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-222-205-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Action: rworkman is a noob. [14:37] lol we still wub yew tho [14:37] Action: TwinReverb smacks rworkman "you are not a n00b" [14:37] :) [14:37] haha [14:37] rworkman: are you not like the mrslack ? [14:37] heh [14:37] gubbe: nope, that would be Volkerding. [14:38] http://slackware.com/~volkerdi/ [14:38] ohh [14:38] I'm just http://slackware.com/~rworkman/ [14:38] he was in here too the other day [14:38] rworkman, not just [14:38] you are *the* rworkman [14:38] :P [14:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:38] slackytude: indeed. I grabbed it on facebook last night to prove it. :D [14:39] lol that's pimp [14:39] bhha pics dont want to work :/ [14:40] i wonder how badly i'll get flamed for my response in http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/ [14:40] movies and stuff works [14:40] :( [14:40] brb, gotta go check on the classrooms [14:40] Necos: after girls [14:40] :D [14:40] Necos, heh, you wrote a comment? [14:42] comments in rant blogs only add gas to the fire... [14:42] the best thing you can do is ignore it altogether [14:43] alienBOB, can you verify that libsndfile in pgk/current works on 12.2 ? [14:43] nothing from -current should be used on 12.2 [14:44] i know, i know [14:44] then quit asking; you seem to forget [14:44] i didn't know if he meant /current as in 12.2 or "what he compiled last" or slackware-current [14:44] it's rare to see anything for slackware-current on a repository [14:45] military taught me not to assume, mainly because when i do someone says some stupid cliche we learned in basic training that makes me want to smack them [14:45] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95832.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:46] sure O.o [14:46] the mlitary is full of de-generats.. i wouldn't learn to much from them these days... [14:46] zhaena (n=zhaena@cpe-066-026-043-219.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] the army is the worst and has the lowest collective IQ.. [14:46] cadmium-sulfide, wow you have a knack for stereotyping people you've not met enough of to form such an opinion of [14:47] dude i'v been in the military for 4 years and work on a military base as a civilian.. [14:47] in general what i just stated is accurate [14:47] that doesn't matter, you've not met enough of them to be able to successfully stereotype them [14:47] yes i have.. [14:47] at best you've experienced .01% of those in the armed forces [14:47] yes i'm stereotyping.. [14:48] there are plent of exceptions.. [14:48] plenty* [14:48] i can't know 3 of 3 million south koreans and pretend to understand them as a collective [14:49] i'm making a generalization your right... [14:49] but as a whole the army is retarted.. [14:49] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-146-41-130.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] anyone who is in the army will likely agree [14:49] a generalization that angers me because it's out of blatant and admitted ignorance [14:49] and because it includes me when you say "armed forces" [14:49] it includes me to man.. [14:50] i'm a medic in the army.. [14:50] uh, that's "too" not "to" 8-) 8-P [14:50] i'm not active but still in.. [14:50] my case and point :) [14:51] beyond which, ignorance can be cured, but stupidity cannot [14:51] the human factor cannot be eliminated or solved for [14:51] (unfortunately) [14:51] eh, that is unfortunate how? [14:52] try working in iraq for 4 years on an army base then form an oppinion... [14:53] My nfs isn't working [14:53] don't get me wrong i'm friendly with many people around me but as a whole i'm disapointed in the military especially the army as compaired to other sections.. [14:53] !nfs [14:53] Here is a paste bin of my nfs problem http://pastebin.com/mab3aa13 [14:53] because we cannot have a perfect OS (except maybe Slackware Linux 8-) or computer or desktop or aircraft or missile or engine or wrench or song or guitar or amp or laptop or pencil or metronome or cell phone or book or desk or girl scout cookie or camera or webcam or external hard drive or card reader or fan or refrigerator or microwave or shoes .... etc [14:53] cadmium-sulfide, what have you done on a positive note to fix it, if you don't mind me asking? [14:54] not to mention all the corruption, kickbacks, sales of woment etc.. [14:54] fix the army? [14:54] for example, when people get sick of windows, i either help them fix the problem or hand them a Knoppix DVD 8-) [14:54] topgun21: is portmap running ? [14:54] just last month some guy masacered 5 people a few buildings down from me.. [14:54] cadmium-sulfide, are you toxic? [14:54] there all dead now [14:54] i don't want toxic people around me [14:54] Lord_Khelben: How do i start portpmap? [14:54] topgun21: run /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc start [14:55] if all goes work and nfs works you will want to make the changes permanent so you then do chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc [14:55] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:55] so that it runs everytime [14:56] does rc.inet1/2 look for rc.rpc? [14:56] TwinReverb, no, afaik [14:56] after that you will also need to run /etc/rc.d/rc.nfs start (or maybe it is rc.nfsd) [14:56] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-146-41-130.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:57] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:57] TwinReverb: rc.inet2 does [14:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:57] cool [14:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Hey Lord_Khelben, how's it going? [14:58] hellow firebird619. nice, how about you ? [14:59] doing excellent, thank you. :) [14:59] i am glad for you [14:59] ah topgun21 left. and i was going to ask him if it worked [14:59] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-146-41-130.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] i should have said to win the lottery [15:00] Anyhow, the military is a degenerate organization as a whole.. if they were a business they would have been out of business a long time ago.. everyone knows they suck as an organization and there people are second rate... [15:00] thanks, rworkman and friends, audacity needed wxGTK and libsndfile but i got it working [15:00] cadmium-sulfide: most government agencies/organizations/etc would be out of business if they weren't government [15:01] audacity rocks. very useful [15:01] sorry TwinReverb, i'm just jaded after working with unit after unit of troglodite army personell... [15:01] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] Lord_Khelben: /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc: Permission denied [15:02] zhaena (n=zhaena@cpe-066-026-043-219.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] topgun21: i forgot to mention "sh". my mistake [15:03] "sh /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc start" [15:03] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95c8e.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [15:03] sh is needed because it is not executable yet [15:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [15:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:05] Lord_Khelben: For do i start rc.rpc at boot? [15:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] It shows that I left/ [15:06] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [15:06] topgun21: if rc.rpc is executable then it will run each time you boot (to make it executable run "chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc") [15:06] you will also need to run rc.nfsd [15:07] Lord_Khelben: can you see my messages? It shows that I left (Connection timed out) and then switched me to my alternate nick. :P [15:07] firebird619: i see this [22:01:57] firebird619 [n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619] has quit IRC: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:08] yeah, I see the same thing. Yet all it did was switch me to my alternate nick and I'm still here. :P [15:08] that's odd. :P [15:08] yes i don't see you join. out of the blue firebird_619 spoke [15:08] haha [15:09] Lord_Khelben: should i be concerned about this http://pastebin.com/m7af6c417 [15:09] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] Hey lostnhell [15:10] hey [15:10] topgun21: see subtree_check and nosubtree_check in the manpage and choose which behavior you want [15:10] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:10] when using slackbuild scripts and running 64-current i am getting errors about c compiler not able to create executables. i look in the config.log as prompted [15:10] change the arch to x86_64 [15:10] that would be the issue [15:11] Hey thrice`, how's it going? [15:11] ah i asked that question the other day [15:11] and i was told there is nothing you need to do [15:11] keoni, what build are you working on? [15:11] then someone lied to you. all SBo scripts are i486 by default [15:11] libotr [15:11] hi firebird619 [15:11] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-208-190.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [15:11] I will try that script also to make sure that is the only problem [15:12] I installed 2.9.29.1 from current some time ago and looks like it sometimes doesnt want to handle any kind of usb device [15:12] nheco (n=nheco@201-34-68-226.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] Lord_Khelben:do i put the behaour i want in the nfsd .conf file or the exports file? [15:13] keoni, that was the only proble, change the arch to x86_64 [15:14] ya it worked well afterwords, thanks. [15:14] Lord_Khelben: How do i mount the nfs volume from the client? [15:14] topgun21: in exports i think [15:14] Lord_Khelben: How do i mount the nfs volume from the client? [15:15] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/music/clips.html [15:15] do some Sbo scripts have some auto setting? i installed something the other day without changing anything iirc. [15:15] topgun21: man nfs [15:15] (give it 1 minute) [15:16] fun... [15:16] keoni: nope; unless you did one that is -noarch [15:16] How to switch to romanian keyboard? [15:16] or a python [15:16] mm, actually not python [15:16] I need to type in Romanian. [15:16] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Connection timed out [15:17] pri4pus: use scim [15:17] i use it for japanese [15:17] Ok, thank you! [15:19] i may be wrong but you can do it with or without scim [15:19] the "ro" keymap is what you want [15:19] okay, is there something similar to the pkg_info freebsd has? [15:20] i find scim to be faster [15:20] keoni: less /var/log/packages/package_name_you_want [15:20] Necos: i never tried scim so you may be absolutely right [15:20] Lord_Khelben: What is the other way? [15:21] pri4pus: what DE do you use ? [15:21] DE?! [15:21] e.g kde,xfce etc [15:21] xfce [15:21] hello [15:21] YOYO! amazon10x [15:22] so i just built a new kernel and when i boot it i get a ton of errors about udev. is there something i should've built into it that i didn't? or is it maybe due to me using 2.6.30? [15:22] pri4pus: you can use the xfce-xkb plugin from xfce-goodies or do it directly from Xorg [15:22] amazon10x_, what errors? [15:22] i tried uninstalling udev and hal then installing them again and rebooting but it didn't fix it [15:23] slackytude: i'll boot it again to check [15:23] Lord_Khelben: How can I do it from Xorg? [15:23] Lord_Khelben: I s can't mount my nfs share on my client any help would be welcomed [15:23] With setxkbmap? [15:23] is there a log somewhere that has everything that was printed to screen during boot? [15:24] amazon10x_, /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog [15:24] pri4pus: you can run the following "setxkbmap -layout us,ro" and "setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle" [15:24] amazon10x_, dmesg [15:24] then press alt+shift and test if you can type romanian [15:24] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [15:24] topgun21: did you read the nfs manpage ? [15:24] slackytude: alright, i'll reboot and grab all of those [15:25] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.26.103) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:25] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Lord_Khelben: Doesn't work. [15:27] what did you run and what is the error ? [15:28] No error for both of the setxkbmap commands. [15:28] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host157-98-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:28] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-102.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ah i thought the nfs command didn't work. i mistook you for topgun21 [15:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] >.> [15:29] :-) [15:29] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:31] pri4pus: from what i see the "ro" keymap includes the "us" and then defines some dead keys like caron,breve,ogonek etc [15:31] Lord_Khelben: Maybe I don't have Romanian layout at all... [15:32] i got those logs but it didn't have the errors in them. let me see if i can turn on boot logging proper [15:32] pri4pus: that is unlikely. it is /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ro [15:32] Necos was right about scim after all [15:33] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] But in scim I have no romanian layout [15:34] http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/13280 [15:34] lets run slackware on that [15:34] i can type some characters correctly [15:34] but i don't know if they are romanian [15:34] Ok, I will try to configure that. Thank you. [15:34] jeev, eh,no [15:35] jeev, my first computer [15:35] probably not worth running Linux on [15:36] you need to muck with your LC_LTYPE for some apps [15:36] not even as a firewall appliance [15:36] my first was 386dx/40 mhz and it ran slack [15:36] the 16mhz should run too i guess [15:36] no it crawled slack [15:36] Lord_Khelben: No, you were right. It works. [15:36] dont use run for 86 [15:36] well yeah but what version slack? like the first version? 8-S [15:36] dont use run for 386 [15:36] yeah more like walk [15:36] or crawl [15:36] slackytude: everything crawled then [15:36] pri4pus: nice :) [15:37] aye [15:37] Lord_Khelben: Thank you! [15:37] pri4pus: don't mention it :) [15:37] congrats :) [15:37] you can put it in xorg.conf for permanent [15:38] it should be Option "XkbLayout" "us,ro" and Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" [15:38] or you can out it in .xinitrc [15:39] if you want to use some variant like the std romanian variant use Option "XkbVariant" ",std" [15:39] as the commands he typed [15:40] you should not even be using xorg.conf these days [15:40] A Coy, 35th Battalion, Irish Army, radio message to HQ during the Siege of Jadotville: "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey." [15:40] both kde and gnome have tools to configure the keyboard [15:40] heh [15:40] haha [15:41] xfce has a plugin too which can work both as indicator or configure the keyboard through it [15:42] lol [15:43] i personally like to put it in xorg.conf and so it works everywhere. kde messes with everything [15:43] hmmm [15:43] ohh pics works :D [15:43] gubbe: you fixed the graphics chipset issue ? [15:44] no [15:44] just looded "radeon" no vesa [15:45] radeon sucks >.> use radeonhd [15:45] old shity card :p [15:45] fail [15:45] :p [15:46] will have the pute @ work :p [15:46] topgun21 (n=topgun17@adsl-146-41-130.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:47] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900] [15:47] grr [15:47] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117176 [15:47] i hope that does sexual services too [15:48] wow, for that price, it better do something special. [15:48] it better do dishes and windows, and definitely better swallow [15:48] hahaha [15:49] haha [15:49] sexual services [15:49] but you forgot to mention doing dishes and windows... [15:49] you fail [15:49] jeev, how much are you charging? [15:50] what do you want [15:50] thats pretty pricey [15:50] sorry if this has come and gone, but is anyone else seeing really slow performance out of pidgin in -current since the big update on Wed? [15:51] random gdb samplings show it spending a lot of time in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [15:51] sucks down CPU--over 600 minutes running overnight. [15:52] jeev, well it involves a bath tub full of pepto bismol [15:52] that's a lot of pink... [15:52] :) [15:53] i hope you have insurance for that [15:54] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:55] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.231.206.47) joined ##slackware. [15:56] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.231.206.47) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:56] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.231.206.47) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:56] edman007, are you a hot girl with nice sexy breasts and a fully proportionate body and you weigh 55-60% of my weight ? [15:57] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.231.206.47) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:58] jeev, depends, are you a 400lb Gorilla? [15:58] now i wanna see a pic of what jeev looks like, just to see if he's justified in being so picky about women >.> [15:59] Necos, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Male_silverback_Gorilla.JPG [15:59] LOL [16:00] jeev, you look sexy in that pic [16:00] kunal (n=kunal@ppp-124-120-218-137.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] damn... lol [16:02] now how about those prices? [16:03] lol [16:03] Necos, im the hottest thing ever [16:03] i fart death too [16:04] thats should make you popular [16:04] duh [16:04] >.> [16:04] The sad thing is when someone asks you to fix their computer and save their files, and you find that they have put naked pictures of their self on the computer. [16:04] pi31415, why look at their pics [16:05] . o O (I would rather not have seen that.) [16:05] pi31415: this is exactly why you do a blind copy >.> [16:05] gustaf_ (n=gustaf@cm-84.215.92.40.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [16:05] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] i gave someone a computer to just copy the data over, i had to rush out, he looked at the girls pics [16:05] jeev: to verify that they are the ones to copy and not just some crud laying around [16:05] and she found out [16:05] heh [16:06] i fixed my girlfriends computer 2 years before i met her [16:06] if i knew her cousin had a cute ass cousin like that [16:06] i'd ask her to hook me up 2 years earlier [16:06] hehe [16:06] lol [16:06] with the same girl.. [16:06] hehe [16:06] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-8-65.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] apparently, you're not thinking broad enough jeev... [16:07] what f00l [16:07] 2 words: three-some [16:07] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [16:07] anthony bourdain is funny [16:07] Necos, huh [16:07] her cousin gave me my girlfriends computer 2 years before i knew [16:07] her [16:07] necos: I heard someone say that those never end well. [16:07] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:07] so then she introduced me to her and said "oh, you've fixed her computer before" lol [16:08] anyway [16:08] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [16:08] jeev, so you could have had 'em both ^_~ [16:08] her cousin is married and older [16:08] hehe [16:08] jeev so when she found out you fixed her computer she instantly had an orgasm and fell in love with you ? [16:08] cadmium-sulfide: that's what the vicodin told him [16:08] I am constantly amazed by the level of maturity in this channel. [16:08] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:09] no [16:09] she told me when she first saw me, she told herself "well hello there" [16:09] lol [16:09] >.> [16:09] jk :P.. [16:09] not kiddign [16:09] i dont care anyway [16:09] i could be the ugliest d00d ever and i still have the cutest girlfriend [16:09] pi31415: if we were always serious, this would be a really boring chan =p [16:09] if you can't link it, it never happened jeev =p [16:10] Necos: no kidding, it sure would. :P [16:10] i aint gonna link her pic heh [16:10] then it didn't happen. :P [16:10] then i dont care! [16:10] :) [16:10] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Necos: you're not boring, you're amazing! [16:11] lol [16:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] Action: Necos beats the sarcasm down with a big rock [16:11] i want to go to a mongolian grill [16:11] but i dont want them to PMS when i try to add more meat on top [16:11] mongolian girlls rock [16:11] the stupid bitch tapped the glass which had a piece of paper that said [16:11] "please keep meats on bottom, no meat on top" [16:11] or some shit [16:11] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:12] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:12] hahahahahaha [16:12] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux, how's it going? [16:12] hey antiwire [16:12] dude, which oen do you go to jeev? [16:12] burbank mall [16:12] y0 antiwire , Camarade_Tux [16:12] comrad isn't here [16:12] welcome Camarade_Tux and antiwire [16:12] antiwire, noobfarm entry is up [16:12] oh, blah, that one is weak [16:12] his client dropped and automatically reconnected [16:12] dorks [16:12] i know Necos [16:12] oh man. [16:12] last night was insane [16:12] if you like chinese though, go t Gourmet 88 in burbank [16:12] yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [16:12] there's one in northridge that's PIMP! [16:13] i went to bed at 5 [16:13] antiwire, male strip club? [16:13] nasty. [16:13] i feel like i got hit by a train [16:13] i have to ask my friend where it is exactly... she took me last time [16:13] antiwire, must've been their biggest batter [16:13] northridge is wack [16:13] iptables does too act on the application level [16:13] dude, CSUN in the summer is win ^^ [16:14] hahah csun [16:14] i call csun glendale college #2 [16:14] antiwire: amtrak or freight train? :P [16:14] fuck no... Matadors ftw [16:14] this was surely a freight train [16:14] our basketball team finally made div I [16:14] lol [16:14] Necos, there's an ice cream place somewhere near northridge called Maggie Moo's or Maggie Magoo's [16:14] it's like coldstone but so much better [16:14] i can't eat ice cream, you insensitive clod [16:14] i think it hit me, threw me off the bridge and sent my tumbling down a gorge into a river full of rapids. [16:15] why [16:15] antiwire: I'm on current now, which k3b svn version is it you use that works? [16:15] i'm lactose intolerant ;-; [16:15] damn [16:15] antiwire: haha, and you survived. :D [16:15] ice cream is my life [16:15] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:16] well, now they make lactose free ice cream, so all is not lost ^_^ [16:16] wack [16:16] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-40.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:17] wow, the pc was running a bit slow, I close FF and it's fast as heck. :P [16:17] firebird619: yeah, about k3b [16:18] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [16:18] http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//netfilter-extensions-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 [16:18] firebird619: r981626 [16:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] antiwire: ok, thank you. [16:18] Action: firebird619 waves hello to hitest [16:18] http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-7.html [16:18] y0 higuita [16:19] Those were links to examples of it working at the application level. [16:19] does anyone use thttpd [16:19] slackytude: tab completion FAIL. :D [16:19] damn [16:19] hiya firebird619! just got back from paperwork at the office:) done for the day:) [16:19] y0 hitest [16:19] brb [16:19] hitest: nice. [16:19] hi slackytude:) [16:19] ^-^ [16:20] those are links to iptables *helping* on the application level but they still operating at the network and transport levels [16:20] does iptables parse the ftp protocol? [16:21] so if you pipe a tcpdump and grep for "gnutella" what level of the stack would you say that is ? [16:21] I love mankind ... It's people I hate. -- Schulz [16:21] fortune ^^^ [16:21] cadmium-sulfide: tcpdump is an application, right? [16:21] cadmium-sulfide, obviously thats kernel space [16:21] ... [16:22] lol [16:22] well i mean your operating on application level data [16:22] libsndfile (1.0.18) on slackbuilds fails [16:22] anyone compiled it? [16:22] pi31415: read that link man " By default, this module will track IRC connection on port 6667" [16:22] i mean the string gnutella is part of the application level data [16:22] juice: 12.2? [16:22] that's at transport level [16:23] it's not at application level [16:23] its seems to be a requirement for cdemu, yet it isn't listed [16:23] yeah firebird619 [16:23] you can't filter ports at the application level. [16:23] juice: I've upgraded to current now, but it built fine for me on 12.2 [16:23] hmm [16:23] applications filter ports but they do not do so at L7 [16:23] antiwire: the link says that it enables DCC over NAT. How do you do DCC without parsing the IRC protocol? [16:23] juice: what errors are you getting? [16:23] pi31415: that is not application layer [16:23] well the data is application data [16:23] or say tcpdump | grep -i yahmsg [16:23] What level is the IRC protocol? [16:24] http://pastebin.com/m62568246 [16:24] the yahoo messages themselves are app level data [16:24] cadmium-sulfide: you realize that tcpdump is just resolving ports to protocol names right? [16:24] if you dump the packet data like.. [16:25] tcpdump -nxX [16:25] then your looking at the packet data or datagram data [16:25] the payload is application level data [16:25] pi31415: I understand that IRC, ftp and all of that are applications ut iptables is not filtering or manipulating on layer 7 [16:25] firebird619, looks like I need to append [16:25] LDFLAGS="-ldl" \ [16:25] it's working much lower down [16:25] right its pulling it off the wire... [16:26] but the data itself in the tcp payload is application level data [16:26] cadmium-sulfide: the data is but iptables is not operating on the data [16:26] antiwire: A layer 3 switch also leaves the layer 3 data unmodified, right? It just acts on it. [16:26] cadmium-sulfide, do you have a point? I seem to be missing it [16:26] i didn't mention anything about iptables.. [16:26] yeah the point is like.. [16:26] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [16:26] some iptables modules like ipp2p.. [16:26] are scanning application level data [16:26] slackytude: I am crazy or something? [16:26] so.. [16:27] i guess that could be considered level 7 filtering if your filtering application level data [16:27] antiwire, I cannot belive we are having this talk either [16:27] antiwire, must be a karma thing [16:27] juice: did that fix it? I'm not sure about that error, there might be another way to fix it as well. I just know that it sure built fine for me without any changes to the slackbuild. [16:27] slackytude: haha [16:27] firebird619, yes [16:27] antiwire: you aren't crazy, you were just hit by a freight train. ;) [16:27] it is building fine now [16:28] juice: Hmm, ok. [16:28] http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3555 [16:29] seems like a known bug [16:29] wonder if it got patched yet [16:29] slackytude: too much diabolic advocacy from me? [16:30] juice: probably not being it says Resolution Pending. [16:30] yeah [16:30] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] pi31415, we spent some hours yesterday discussing osi layers.... [16:30] but then again its been 7 months [16:30] so we could hope [16:30] dude if your filtering application level data then your acting on layer 7.. [16:30] the OSI model is kinda antiquated anywho [16:30] dear lord. [16:30] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [16:30] slakytude your a wanker anyhow... [16:30] who isnt? [16:31] cadmium-sulfide: flattery will get you nowhere [16:31] http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3137 [16:31] maybe it has been patched [16:31] err [16:31] n/m that's older [16:31] but the thing is, applications are doing things today that kind of cross the layers in theory (but that's another discussion for another day) [16:32] I just realized that Necos is an anagram for scone [16:32] no it's not >.> [16:32] dude its simple [16:32] i think that needs patched somewhere either upstream or down [16:32] the data is l7 or "application level" data [16:32] Necos, eh, thats because layer 5 and 6 dont exist [16:32] if you act on that data, your acting on l7 [16:32] irregardless of how you interface to the data [16:33] I like the DOD model better :) [16:33] >.> [16:33] alrite, so iptables is a layer7 filter [16:33] lol "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not like the other people in his car who were screaming." someone's signature, sad but funny [16:33] glad thats settled [16:33] it can be [16:33] hahahahahaha [16:33] like ppp2p [16:33] is filtering based on layer 7 data [16:33] so [16:33] its filtering l7 [16:33] its not filtering on the other layers data [16:34] like port number [16:34] its not filtering based on ip layer [16:34] hey can you hit enter a few more times place? [16:34] its acting on the data payload [16:34] please? [16:34] which is application level data [16:34] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-229.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [16:34] Dominian (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:34] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: "Leaving." [16:34] i'm just afraid if i put it all in one sentance you might not comprehend it [16:34] that would be great. a few more enters might be able to catch our attention a bit better [16:34] so i'm breaking it down for you [16:34] peice by peice [16:35] piece by piece is better [16:35] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:35] well, see here cadmium-sulfide... those line breaks are in fact annoying the shit out of the people you want to listen to you >.> [16:35] oh well [16:36] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (70% of Full) [16:36] they should act stupid when someone makes a totaly valid point [16:36] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:36] lol [16:37] antiwire, its full moon soon [16:37] Nick change: pi31415 -> scoNe [16:37] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:37] nah it was already full [16:37] The Moon is Waning Gibbous (70% of Full) [16:37] damn [16:37] tweet [16:37] y0 nille_ [16:37] *sigh* [16:37] y0 nix_chix0r [16:37] Action: Necos waves to nix_chix0r [16:38] Action: scoNe howls at the moon [16:38] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] sup gangsters [16:38] anything that isnt down? [16:38] yar [16:38] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [16:38] glad thats settled [16:39] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:39] wb firebird619 [16:40] slackytude: thanks [16:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:43] slackytude: I'm having some weird issue. For example I have konsole open transferring to my external hdd and amongst the copying, I get a whole bunch of these: ^[OQ^[OQ^[OQ^[OQ^[OQ^ [16:43] It's like a key is stuck or something, yet I've checked my keyboard and nothing is stuck that I can tell. :P [16:43] eh [16:43] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [16:43] It seems to have stopped now, but it was sure weird. [16:44] just a regular copy? [16:44] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [16:44] Dominian, noobfarm was down [16:44] slackytude: yeah, using cp [16:44] Dominian, hello! :D [16:44] firebird619, never seen stuff like that [16:44] me either. [16:44] doh they don't have the cdemu client on slackbuilds [16:45] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:45] noobfarm goes down more often than a hooker [16:45] We're waiting for you to submit a script juice ;-) [16:45] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:45] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95c8e.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] lo and behold... macavity is not dead :-) [16:46] damn [16:46] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:46] :P [16:46] alienBOB, I think the libsndfile needs patched to work :) [16:46] I need to get my money back [16:46] but it more a bug from sqlite [16:46] you dont find decent assassins anymore [16:46] macavity, how did you escape? [16:46] slackytude: he was crunchy and good with ketchup :P [16:46] well some submitted all the other packages for cdemu but the client [16:46] damn [16:47] slackytude: you suck at hiring assassins [16:47] macavity, did you happen to notice a small bag of gold coin per chance? [16:47] macavity, I want it back [16:47] Necos, looks like it [16:47] has anyone here used openvz? preferably on slack? [16:47] slackytude: i spent it on a special service comming to your bedroom in the near future ;-) [16:48] lol [16:48] macavity, thanks, I shall be looking forward to it [16:48] lol [16:48] i just thought of something... [16:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] ninja chipmunks [16:49] O_o [16:49] slackytude: he is eight feet tall, and rumour has it that he takes pleasure *before* the killing ;-) [16:49] macavity, he shall be destroyed by my topless amazon bodyguards [16:50] ohhh... i can haz copy? [16:50] as shall all who dare to oppose me [16:50] slackytude: dude, did you borrow my amazon clan again? [16:50] Necos, I left you a note. kthx, bye [16:50] goddamnit! [16:50] macavity, probably not right now [16:51] ill clean it before i give it back? :P [16:51] macavity, what wll your gf say? [16:51] <_< [16:51] Nick change: scoNe -> pi31415 [16:51] slackytude: she is watching over my shoulder atm, and laughing [16:52] lol [16:52] Action: slackytude waves [16:52] well... [16:52] Action: Necos notes that he has sent ninja chipmunks [16:52] Necos, they shall be , oh wait [16:52] * GF waves back to slackytude [16:52] ^-^ [16:52] wubrgamer (n=wubrgame@unaffiliated/wubrgamer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:53] macavity, we shall meet again, mylady, as soon as my assassin is successful [16:53] none shall stand between our love [16:53] LOL [16:53] >.> [16:53] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:54] slackytude: she is *almost* flattered ;-) [16:54] I'll put that down as a yes then [16:54] damn, slackytude... use the amazons already... [16:54] anyhow, i just wanted to tell you all that i am not dead, and i have obviously not been eaten by a grue [16:55] well, damn it... why not? [16:55] last time i took a vacation from IRC i got concerned letters, so here you have it: i am alive, and still mad as a hatter :P [16:55] macavity, thats good to know, I guess [16:56] macavity, truth to be told I didnt notice you missing. but Im close to this years finals and not up2date anyway [16:56] Hey macavity, how's it going? [16:56] btw, i am stuck with fixing libtool, so you just have to wait a little longer before my work bears fruit [16:56] can someone on 12,2 confirm that there are supposed to be three iwlwifi packages? or I could just look at PACKAGES.TXT [16:56] firebird619: read up :P [16:56] y0 dtanner, how's it going? [16:56] anyhows, kkthxbai for all the fish [16:56] macavity: glad to hear your alive. :D [16:56] Action: macavity over and out [16:57] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And no, you canNOT haz my autographz!" [16:57] lol [16:57] n/m , there are supposed to be three. [16:57] haha [16:57] hey firebird619 [16:57] heh, nice [16:57] Action: Necos prods dtanner [16:57] sup Necos [16:57] y0 dtanner [16:57] ouch man . no prodding [16:58] hey slackytude , how are you? [16:58] you had to be prodded [16:58] still alive despite ninja squirrels [16:58] =0 [16:58] how about you? [16:58] hey jeev [16:58] ninja squirrels with nunchucks? [16:58] well i killed all the ninja squirrells around here a while back. [16:58] this video is interesting [16:58] very, very interesting [16:58] dtanner, dont tell Necos, he will be sad [16:59] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-102.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] i sent ninja chipmunks, so... [16:59] they were keeping me up at night. [16:59] apparently, dtanner fails too [16:59] ^_^ [16:59] Action: firebird619 sends a group of ninja raccoons to Necos. [17:00] Action: Necos has blood mixed with every poison known to man [17:00] sound-juicer is pissing me off. so i may kill it also. [17:00] Necos: orly? [17:01] yarly [17:01] heh, not only was FF slowing things down, strigi was running in the background for the past 3.6 hours. :P [17:02] more packages installed in vain [17:02] trying to use cdemu. and then the client errors, resorted to bchunk [17:02] 1 package and easier lol [17:02] there, strigi has been disabled. that'd be annoying as heck. [17:03] ? [17:04] cdemu? [17:04] strigi? whats that firebird619 [17:05] juice, what kind are you today, cranberry? [17:05] lol [17:05] crabapple [17:05] NukeDukem: some thing that indexes all your files to search for them easier/faster. [17:05] mmm [17:05] AHHHH, it's nix_chix0r [17:05] Action: firebird619 runs [17:05] BOO [17:06] nix_chix0r: How's it going? :) [17:06] I've been hacking at too many different packs with bugs in them [17:06] eww, sounds too much like something from microsoft, like findfast or that indexing thing [17:06] great, my friend came over and she made a birthday cake for jesse for sunday i was gona do it but he likes her whip cream frosting so she did that for him [17:06] over the past months. I am to the point I just want crap to work [17:06] NukeDukem: yeah, it was slowing things down a bit too, that and firefox. [17:06] was nice of her. we're gona grill in an hour [17:06] nix_chix0r: cool. [17:07] but I can't bring myself to use the point and click distro for that ease [17:07] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95c8e.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [17:07] nix_chix0r: damn, i want bbq! [17:07] It's 73F here right now. Weather is excellent again. [17:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:07] 72F here [17:07] Necos: I was just about to say the same. Maybe she'll dcc us some. :) [17:07] yes! [17:07] juice: nice. [17:08] in KS/MO Kansas city [17:08] Minnesota here. :D [17:08] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:09] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.80.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] fun [17:09] grill some chipotle peppers [17:09] chicken, potatoes [17:09] :O [17:09] Action: firebird619 drools (except for the peppers, I don't care for peppers) [17:09] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [17:09] firebird619, you'll soon realise we don't fool around when it comes to cooking. at least i don't haha [17:09] he could eat jacks pizza every day [17:10] haha [17:10] nix_chix0r: damn... [17:10] feel free to come by any grilling time [17:10] it'd be worth the 6hr drive [17:10] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] i'm in love ^_^ [17:10] haha [17:10] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.102) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] and i don't have some fancy grill i spend maybe 39bucks on it. does the trick fuck gas grilling [17:11] Necos: that was fast. :P [17:11] whatever works. [17:12] september 30th, every one come to my house:) [17:12] lol nix_chix0r my "smokie joe" bbq cost me 34.99 at fuckin home depot [17:12] hell yeah [17:12] mine was called the bbq pro or some shit [17:12] kmart blue light special [17:12] LOL [17:12] pimp it out [17:12] Kmart Blue Light FTW!!! [17:12] nix_chix0r, do you pay for my plane ticket too ? ;) [17:12] y0 Camarade_Tux [17:13] Camarade_Tux, for you i would [17:13] Camarade_Tux: yeah, it's all expenses paid trip. [17:13] hey firebird619, slackytude :) [17:13] first class even. :) [17:13] right nix_chix0r? :P [17:13] damn, i need to find out what Camarade_Tux is doin right >.> [17:13] Necos: He's french. :P [17:13] hey nix_chix0r :) [17:13] nix_chix0r, thanks ! \o/ =) [17:14] see i'm not a big friend of the french but after enough time there i'd trade him for some frittes and a sandwich [17:14] hahaha [17:14] >.> [17:14] damn, cunning as ever... [17:14] nix_chix0r ='( [17:14] Camarade_Tux: you wouldn't last long. [17:14] or you could enslave me and make me cook :) [17:14] Camarade_Tux, do you know of a town called Mons, in belgium [17:15] nix_chix0r, I know the name but I've never been there [17:15] thats where i lived:) [17:15] anyone succesfully send sms message through IrDA by Sagem mobile phone ? [17:15] smaller village [17:15] well... [17:15] nix_chix0r, do you speak french ? [17:16] just a little bit, i could get by. i did live in a wallonie area [17:16] not the flemmish side [17:16] wallonie? [17:17] Necos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallonia [17:17] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7418D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] nickname for the french side of beligum [17:17] pretty much the reject area of belgium [17:18] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] nix_chix0r, oh, I thought Mons was on the other side [17:18] lol [17:18] i lived 30min train ride to brussels though [17:18] yeah, but belgium isn't a very big country ;) [17:18] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [17:18] and the flemmish side was more industrial iirc but now this is a problem [17:19] http://current.com/items/77060332_water-bubbles-in-zero-gravity.htm [17:19] yeah belgium is going through some trouble right now [17:21] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] i would have to go to brussels or twards the flemmish side otherwise i got treated like shit for being half american [17:21] that or holland [17:21] sQuEE` (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [17:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] fuck the eu, the usa saved their ass twice (once in ww1 and once in ww2) maybe next time some nation decides to conquer them the usa wont be the hero and watch em squirm under the boot of tyrany [17:24] >.> [17:24] Moan moan [17:24] I want to move to RivenDale and have eternal peace. [17:24] i would have to learn to speak Elvish though [17:24] mars bitches... [17:24] Jupiter for me.. [17:25] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] Simon14 (n=chatzill@S0106000c41aa7bd5.pk.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] I just want to see if I can make a move on Liv Tyler. that is the real reason. [17:26] dtanner... not on your life! [17:26] lol [17:26] bmxer (i=1000@c9345746.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Necos: one can dream/hope, can't they? :P [17:27] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:27] hell no [17:27] i think Liv has a crush on me anyways [17:27] haha [17:27] is that what the vicodin told you? [17:27] I once visited rivendale on an acid trip. [17:27] i bet Liv isnt as pretty when she does not have her makeup on [17:27] vicodin don't aaffect me at all. [17:28] -a [17:28] NukeDukem: of course not, but damn she looks good as an elf =p [17:28] dtanner was bilbo bagins there at the time ? [17:28] yes [17:28] those hobits feet bother me.. [17:28] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [17:28] the must have epic callus [17:28] haha [17:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:29] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-222-205-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:29] I vote for star_trek.. [17:30] damn, this is a cool channel [17:30] Simon14 (n=chatzill@S0106000c41aa7bd5.pk.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [17:30] i wish i actually used slack though [17:30] icarus: then get with it mon' [17:30] what do you use now ? [17:30] cadmium-sulfide: arch linux [17:30] he uses a piece of metal with two sticks >.> [17:31] i keep meaning to install 12.2, but i just love arch too much [17:31] and a rubber ball [17:31] ew arch linux [17:31] never tried arch [17:31] agreed :) [17:31] get 'em nix_chix0r ^_^ [17:31] i mean i have debian on this laptop but i do have slackware on the main box [17:31] http://www.gk2gk.com/ [17:31] now that's interesting [17:31] ewwww debian! [17:31] Necos, yea eww [17:31] i'm forced to use debian on my asterisk cluster... [17:31] arch devs seem pretty clueless to me [17:32] then again i have never tried anything other than slack ( only ubuntu-studio in vbox for a very short time ) [17:32] Hi guys! I need to run some j2ee applications, and i'd like to run that in a Slackware-current environment, this way i could contribute with testing and reporting to community any problem...and learn more about packging as well. [17:32] nix_chix0r: i thought you loved us :( [17:32] antiwire: WTF!? [17:32] lol [17:32] EW UBUNTU [17:32] Necos, i do bebe [17:32] yeah i do not like ubuntu [17:32] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [17:32] just my laptop is old [17:32] i feel like i'm in the movie hackers [17:32] ubuntu causes me to become volitile towards whoever proclaims ubuntu [17:33] well i tried "monkey linux" a loong time ago because back then the download was very tiny for that distro. then i got me a slack cd for 3.1 in a UNIX book and never looked back. [17:33] I'm looking for some "howto" which describes an approach to keep slackware-current, can you recommend some? [17:33] hey all, back from the cabin. Weather wasn't too great up there but i killed a lot of stuff :D [17:33] Necos, the fucking housing market is so great right now for buying [17:34] yes it is! [17:34] i heard to keep waiting untill the end of the year for buying a house.. [17:34] 2bedroom home, hickory cabinets, new kitchen, wood floors, breakfast island, on 70.3 acres 56k they want [17:34] what state is that in ? [17:34] i like my house now, but i want to move where i can have faster internet that's reliable [17:34] wowo... 70 acres [17:35] cadmium-sulfide, minnesota [17:35] moving for inet speed. that is a dedicated geek [17:35] 2hrs away from ontario border [17:35] dtanner: haha [17:35] that's like... enough to bury a lot of bodies! [17:35] dtanner, i live in the woods in northern minnestoa with satellite internet [17:35] i'm waiting for the fallout from the GM banrupcy in michigan.. to find something.. [17:35] nix_chix0r: but you like the area other than that? [17:35] who's your satellite provider ? [17:36] wildblue [17:36] i heard sat was slow and flaky [17:36] dtanner, yeah, it's great internet aside [17:36] deer come up to my porch [17:36] sweet [17:36] hahahaha [17:36] that's awesome [17:36] Oh HAI! Can I check my emailz here! [17:36] i live in a highly populated city, crazy ass Austin TX [17:36] we were gona shoot the 10mm colt his dad gave us this weekend [17:36] kindof like dear come up to you in IRC :P [17:36] i mean it is OK but i want to move [17:37] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:37] I went to see the largest colony of bats in North America the other evening. under the Congress street bridge in downtown Austin. [17:38] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.76.252) joined ##slackware. [17:38] hahahaha [17:38] and buckethead was here not too long ago , so it is a strange place [17:38] dtanner: did you take any home for dinner? [17:38] they were way too fast! [17:39] I think I drank too much beer not to be sleepy by midnight, going to bed [17:39] cadmium-sulfide, they come because i cook good food [17:39] yummy [17:39] i love to eat [17:39] night Camarade_Tux [17:39] i LOVE good homemade food [17:39] later Camarade_Tux [17:39] i'll be back in an hour or so deppending on how long it takes to feed monkey boy [17:39] nix_chix0r: that's just because they don't know it's their brother yet... [17:39] he's wakin up [17:40] gona take him for a walk, then grill [17:40] bbl [17:40] later [17:40] take care [17:40] and carry a big gun [17:40] nix_chix0r: Delta Elite? nice pistol [17:42] night everyone :) [17:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] so SUN bought mysql ? [17:42] whats up with that ? [17:42] tooly (n=theo@e178135019.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [17:43] and then sun got bought by oracle [17:43] surprise, surprise [17:44] Necos, does it mean mysql will cost money soon ? [17:44] i think mysql will be dropped completely, but i'm probably wrong [17:45] sun had their own java-based DB client (forget the name)... i think that's going the way of the dino too [17:45] so i guess its time to look into post-reg .. [17:46] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] all of our stuff is based on mysql [17:47] postgres? [17:47] what is a program to view images in a console [17:47] via something like ncurses [17:47] suid0 (n=suid0@c951a636.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:47] you could use svgalib :) [17:47] postregsql [17:48] so when will we all have a duke nukem death match [17:49] mmmm fresh lobster for supper [17:49] *burp* 'scuse me [17:50] antiwire: that'd be fun. I'd get killed right away. :P [17:51] icarus: 'seejpeg' or 'cjpeg' are two of them [17:52] antiwire: I haven't played for a few days, but the last I did, I was still on E1L2. I fail. :( [17:52] lol [17:52] i can't find the damn SHOOT button in bzflag [17:52] I have to practice more. [17:52] :) [17:52] Action: dtanner hits help [17:52] antiwire: have you been playing regularly now? [17:53] It's like riding a bike for me [17:53] argh, i gotta start gathering up the laptops and projectors... [17:53] bbl [17:53] antiwire: Same here, only I keep falling off. :( [17:53] haha [17:53] Action: firebird619 finds some training wheels. :D [17:54] antiwire: that game sure is fun though. I hadn't played it for years. [17:55] does anyone remember Marithon by ID software ? [17:56] isn't there an open source quake 3? [17:56] cadmium-sulfide: the browser? [17:56] i love that game to this day. and i also like UT [17:56] no it was a 3d shooter wher eyou were on an alien ship and had to kill aliens.. [17:56] antiwire: are you running duke on current? Mine segfaults now that I'm on current. [17:56] cadmium-sulfide: Ah, ok. [17:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:57] dtanner: quake 3? [17:57] early 90's... i used to play it in the MAC lab [17:57] dtanner: I have quake II still. :P [17:58] uva (i=bno@118-160-172-95.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] dtanner: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Quake3 ? [17:58] i remember being 14 years old with head phones off having my heart start beeting when i got to an end boss in Wolfenstein 3d [17:59] firebird619: yes, quake 3 arena. I love it. [17:59] firebird619: yeah runs fine [17:59] dtanner: check that link above. [17:59] antiwire: Hmm, ok. I forgot that Urchlay's update is on SBo now, I'm building that one and I'll see if it helps. [17:59] firebird619: i purchased the linux version on cd and now can't find it. I think there is an open source version to download now without the need for a key. i will check that link [17:59] did you build eduke32 before you last upgraded? [17:59] cadmium-sulfide: you fired at the boss then ducked around the corner and kept it up till it died [18:00] yeah exactly :) [18:00] dtanner: that link is how to installing it on Linux. Maybe it won't be of any help, but thought I'd give the link anyway. [18:00] antiwire: yeah, I built eduke32 when I was still on 12.2, so I probably needed to rebuild regardless. [18:01] firebird619: I think SDL changed [18:01] key to Wolfstein was knowing when to run :) [18:01] Ah, ok. [18:01] that's probably why it segfaults [18:01] thanks [18:01] fall back and shoot, fall back and shoot :) [18:02] for quake 3 you still need the cd if you want actualy quake 3 but you don't need the cd if you want to use other .paks [18:02] hey kitche, how's it going? [18:03] I want to post a demo file I just made [18:03] ;) [18:03] recorded some mayhem [18:03] but you need eduke32 to play it. you just put it in your ~/.eduke32 directory and start eduke32 and it will play [18:03] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [18:04] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [18:05] here http://uploading.com/files/HUJ4N9YO/demo1.dmo.html [18:05] firebird619: yeah i will still need the cd like kitche said , but thanks for the link. i guess i could use some of the other .paks [18:05] yw [18:05] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:06] i purchased q3a linux cd years ago . no telling what box it is in in storage. [18:06] Action: firebird619 clicks link and waits 90 seconds. tick-tock, tick-tock. :) [18:07] heh, k3b still isn't working. I get the same messages. mkisofs crashed and cdrecord has no permission to open the device. :P [18:08] hexoroid (n=duhblow@unaffiliated/hexoroid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:08] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:08] there, new eduke32 installed. :) [18:08] Action: firebird619 tries again. [18:09] juice: here, libsndfile compiles fine on slackware64-current... but I used 1.0.20 [18:09] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] firebird619: try playing my little demo file [18:09] antiwire: will do. [18:09] does anyone know if PAE support is builtin to the slack kernel? [18:09] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] alienBOB, i tried whatever version was in the build [18:09] in 12.2 32bit [18:09] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:10] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [18:11] antiwire: heh, still segfaults. [18:12] here's the last little bit from strace: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14569 [18:13] amazon10x_: no PAE [18:13] How are you alienBOB? [18:14] firebird619: i think you have a really messed up system [18:14] :( [18:14] well that's not good news. [18:14] alienBOB: bummer. i'll take a look at slamd64 then [18:14] fixable? [18:14] is slackware64 going to release at the same time as slackware-12.3? [18:16] antiwire: what do you think is messed up about it? [18:16] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [18:21] amazon10x_: you know that you can use slackware64 too? That does not need PAE to address all your RAM [18:23] well, i intend to throw this onto a production server, so i'm not sure if it'll be wise to use -current for that [18:23] It's your call [18:24] i'm actually downloading slackware64 now [18:24] so i'll take it for a spin; i'll probably end up using it anyway; -current is good enough for me :P [18:24] and my customers haha [18:25] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:26] nvision (n=nvision@brln-4db95c8e.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:26] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:30] chadh_ (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] chadh_ (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:35] what's the general consensus on slackware64 so far? is it mostly problem free? [18:36] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] Action: NyteOwl hasn't tried it yet [18:36] what are the default permissions for /home/ftp after a fresh install [18:37] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 2009-06-06 22:37 ftp/ [18:38] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:40] yay, i can go home!!! [18:41] 10hr day is over! [18:41] that's 360$ on my paycheck ^^ [18:41] laters folks [18:41] You could buy a lot of scones with 360$ [18:42] necos [18:43] be careful [18:43] asians. [18:43] Action: NyteOwl could use about now [18:43] Action: NyteOwl could use 360$ about now [18:43] what would you get [18:43] repair work on my chimney [18:44] ahh [18:44] Necos: if you don't mind me asking, what do you do? [18:44] slackware admin? [18:45] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:45] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:45] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [18:45] catskinner (n=dennis@ppp-70-254-167-165.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [18:47] alienBOB, it might be the version of sqlite I have why libsndfile failed without the patch [18:47] juice: try the latest release of libsndfile first [18:47] i am [18:47] now [18:48] sec [18:49] nope same error [18:49] with 1.0.20 [18:50] adding this to the build script allows it to build LDFLAGS="-ldl" \ [18:50] http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3137 [18:51] err [18:51] wrong one [18:51] http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3555 [18:51] I built 1.0.20 just now on 12.2 and slackware64-current. Built without errors - using my own SlackBuild not that of slackbuilds.org ... no idea if that makes a difference [18:51] its the sqlite verison then [18:51] current has a much newer one than I have atm [18:52] i have 3.6.6.2 [18:52] Current has 3.6.14 [18:52] alienBOB just said he built it on 12.2 [18:53] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Computer has gone to sleep" [18:53] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] err [18:53] Just uploaded my packages [18:53] ok [18:53] thrice`, oops [18:53] yeah [18:54] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC038ED.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] trying yours now [18:56] suid0 (n=suid0@c951a636.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:56] http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1826#comment-22586 [18:57] I'm getting "too much recursion" errors too :( [18:57] cool [18:57] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] worked alienBlurb [18:57] errr [18:57] alienBOB, [18:58] fixed tab complete to last spoken order :) [18:58] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:58] thanks alienBOB [19:01] even though adding LDFLAGS="-ldl" \ to the old one fixed it [19:01] i see you have LDFLAGS="$SLKLDFLAGS" \ [19:01] so that is why it builds [19:03] had barely enough coals to get the grill goin [19:04] what are you grilling? goat ? [19:05] chicken, potatoes, onions and chipotle peppers [19:05] hgeh [19:05] i eat onions like the average american teenager does drugs [19:05] i love onions [19:05] need mushrooms [19:05] me too i put usually 2onions in everything i make haha [19:05] sometimes i sautee them up just to eat [19:06] onions are delish [19:06] steamed with a nice sauce :) [19:06] i've finished an entire onion at one sitting at dinner at a RESTAURANT [19:06] heh [19:06] oh, without mixing with food, just biting into it [19:06] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [19:06] mm [19:06] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [19:06] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [19:06] i could do that with a red, or vedallia sp- [19:07] onions are better than sex [19:07] the big sweet white ones are good that way [19:07] has anyone installed libotr/pidgin-otr ? [19:07] slKIvs (n=ivan@69.79.76.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] keoni, no, pidgin is evil [19:09] whys that? [19:09] the all "we don't support distros without package dependency" thing [19:10] because of the... [19:11] could you elaborate on that? [19:11] old news [19:11] check the internet [19:11] rosh_ (n=roshl@e176081148.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:11] basicaly pidgin devs don't like slackware too much [19:12] slackware rocks! [19:12] ;) [19:12] you bet [19:13] whats the difference between #slackware and ##slackware ? [19:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:15] <_alisonken1churc> # (single) indicates official channel - ## (double) indicates just a bunch of us together [19:15] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left ##slackware. [19:15] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] no one can enter #slackware, they get redirected to here [19:16] yeah i accidentally rejoined and now i'm here [19:16] cadmium-sulfide, it was no accident my friend [19:16] Hey LnxSlck, how's it going? [19:16] firebird619, hey.. fine and you? [19:16] doing excellent, thank you. :) [19:16] firebird619, nothing to do tough.. weekends can be pretty boring [19:16] <_alisonken1churc> cadmium-sulfide: #slackware redirects to ##slackware [19:16] indeed they can. [19:17] cadmium-sulfide, might as well stay then [19:17] firebird619, if i only had one of these http://www.vai5.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pic-2009-06-06-15.jpg [19:17] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] i don't know how to use irc very well.. [19:17] I never knew we ddn't like Pidgin, i'll have to change the entire way I do things now.... [19:17] kidding, it works fine here =) [19:17] burned. [19:17] LnxSlck: haha, nice. Get to searching. Oh, yeah, and see if she has a sister. :P [19:17] cadmium-sulfide, just be as obnoxious s you can:) [19:17] thrice`_ (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [19:18] hehe np there... [19:18] firebird619, lol [19:18] thrice` (n=thrice@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:18] cadmium-sulfide, but if people start talking slackware its courteous to not go off track too much but if not. fair game [19:18] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [19:19] right.. i know :) [19:19] Hey nix_chix0r. Your bbq go well? [19:19] and if people start blathering about the osi model and you don't agree then just add them to your "i can't listen to it anymore" list [19:19] lol [19:20] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:20] firebird619, yeah grills goin [19:20] what should I read before using/installing slackware? [19:20] wb macavity. :) [19:20] tomorrow for his birthday i'm grilling steak, and asparagus wrapped in procutto [19:20] dhw: http://slackbook.org [19:20] dhw read the slack book [19:20] catskinner (n=dennis@ppp-70-254-167-165.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [19:20] okay [19:20] thank you [19:20] dhw: .... and any other URL from the topic line of this channel [19:20] np [19:20] erisco, it's not us.. i don't like their attitude [19:20] i am waiting for the movie :D [19:21] i'm hungry but have no food [19:21] No food at all? [19:21] i gots food i'll share [19:21] no just some katchup packets [19:21] cadmium-sulfide: do a hold-up at a burger joint? [19:21] lnxslck: I actually often am like you, and will completely ditch a program if I find a problem in their license. WHat do you use to IM? [19:21] "hands up and give me all the chees burgarz, nao!" [19:21] Action: firebird619 is just eating now, but nothing like the feast nix_chix0r is making. [19:21] erisco, i use kopete [19:22] i'm on a military base in bfe... [19:22] erisco, it works very fine and it even has webcam support [19:22] no alchohol allowed either [19:22] Kopete is out of the question simply for the K in their name =) [19:22] LnxSlck: Do you use kopete with MSN? [19:22] erisco, they totally ditched slackware, their attitude was very revolting [19:22] firebird619, yes [19:22] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:22] LnxSlck: and it works? [19:22] firebird619, and google talk accounts too [19:22] cadmium-sulfide: a military base? whats wrong with just going to the messe? [19:22] firebird619, of course better than pidgin [19:22] LnxSlck: I ask because MSN doesn't work with my MSN account here. [19:22] pidgin crashes a lot, and it has a lot of non delivered messages [19:23] its 2am doesn't open till 5am [19:23] Cadmium-sulfide: bum fuck egypt? [19:23] firebird619, kopete works fine with my 2 msn accounts [19:23] LnxSlck: Hmm, good to know. must be a PEBKAC issue. :P [19:23] erisco but fuck egypt... [19:23] The only non delivered messages are to one person using AMSN, other htan that pidgin never crashed on me or sent an undelivered message. [19:23] firebird619, pebkac? [19:23] cadmium-sulfide: i was close =) [19:23] erisco, pidgin crashes a lot on me, in windows and linux [19:23] LnxSlck: problem exists between keyboard and chair. i.e. me. :P [19:23] ie iraq.. but don't like to say it cause of the stigma... [19:24] firebird619, lool [19:24] pidgin is bloatware, they should have separated all teh different protocols and then people could add them as plugins or like firefox extensions, instead they threw in the whole kitchen sink [19:24] LnxSlck: I do like kopete better than pidgin now that I've tried kopete in the last week or so. I'm on konversation for irc atm. [19:24] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:24] lnxslack: I'm only using it for AIM and MSN and nothing fancy. no webcams (I can't think of anything else that might be fancy) but htat 1 person who i can't send messages to now ad then really makes me consider another IM client. blopete is out of the uqestion though until I find something from KDE that doesn't piss me off. =) [19:25] i made a life choice to ditch IM, i also broke my cell phone in half and threw it in the trash.. [19:25] brb [19:25] cadmium-sulfide, go to the dinning facility [19:25] oh [19:25] anyone use centericq? [19:25] ffs Slacware is slow [19:25] bfe [19:25] cadmium-sulfide: thats pretty intense [19:25] hoep they fix this bug [19:25] cadmium-sulfide: why are you on IRC then? [19:25] nix_chik it doesn't open for 3 hours [19:26] cause irc isn't IM [19:26] cadmium-sulfide. I graduated high school last week and i have a friend going to Iraq qith the US army, i'd never say this until this year but thanks for being a hero. =p [19:26] i have to log out of xterm and go to konsole can't stand white background anymore [19:26] naughty naughty [19:26] onormally i'd ask you how many babies you killed but i worry about my buddy Peter. Stay safe buddy. I'm going to eat a hamburger and smoke pot and enjoy AMerica. [19:26] well thats nice of you... [19:26] i'v been over here for 4 years.. [19:26] erisco: you graduated high school last week. Congratulations. :) [19:26] also, i don't use a cellhphone either. [19:26] i feel like dirt bag personally... not a hero.. [19:26] war business not nice [19:27] brb [19:27] cadmium-sulfide (n=root@202.174.145.186) left irc: "Killed (KrON (Requested by panasync))" [19:27] we should send a care package:)) [19:27] no way, he robably has killed like 100 babies over htere [19:27] porn but with everything blured out since it's banned [19:27] the last thing he needs is comfort, cya guys =) [19:27] i highly doubt it [19:27] for all you know he could be a dj in the military [19:28] being payed 100K a year [19:28] military has a disco? [19:28] it's fuckd up. i'm really leaving though. [19:28] yeah i know some guys who did that over where i lied [19:28] lived [19:28] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [19:28] firebird619: thanks [19:28] military folks have their own dentists too so i mean not every one is shooting babies [19:28] have fun erisco [19:29] why would you say the us military is shooting babies? [19:29] i got two mosquito bites on my ankle and its hard not to scratch [19:29] calimine lotion [19:29] no that kid did [19:29] Hey Pig_Pen, how's it going? [19:29] calamine?* spelling [19:30] hi firebird619 [19:30] good [19:30] i put butt paste on my leg [19:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:30] seems to help [19:30] bordeaux butt paste [19:30] butt paste? diaper rash stuff? [19:30] yeh that stuff works on burns, cuts, dry skin, ect [19:30] ah! ok, i remember seeing that new [19:30] funny name for an ointment [19:31] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.177.128) joined ##slackware. [19:31] i like it becuause it goes on thick, but doesn't dissapear aftern hour so it still has a little barrier between. and then no diaper rash [19:32] sounds like something you can fap with [19:32] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:32] it will probably set your dingus on fire, medicated [19:32] lol [19:32] oh [19:32] cadmium-sulfide (n=mike@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [19:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:33] well, maybe not, its for diaper rash so it is probably mellow [19:34] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.181.192) joined ##slackware. [19:34] uva (i=bno@118-168-234-43.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] when i was changing diapers all we used was talcum powder, and that zinc paste for diaper rash [19:35] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] "i'v decided to focus exclusively on my papiay machay hats" -seinfeild.. [19:37] bmxer (i=1000@c9345746.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:41] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] porkchop_ (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-182-112.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] hello [19:41] does anyone know how i set a custom font to use in the console? [19:41] heh, i just googled butt paste to see what all is in it and it has zinc oxyde too [19:41] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] use pkgtool > setup > set console font [19:42] will that use even fonts i've added to the system? [19:42] i doubt it, the console uses different fonts than what X uses [19:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] :( [19:43] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:43] woodoomagic (n=woodooma@79.101.89.245) left irc: "Leaving." [19:44] look at the bright side, there are folks too poor to afford electricity and have to use their computers by candle light and without fonts [19:44] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [19:44] sopas (n=souphead@112.198.138.25) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:44] Ugh, the Internet went out again. Thrird time today. [19:44] alright [19:44] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:44] s/Thrird/Third/ [19:45] well if i cant set my own font.. i have bashish installed but i have to run "bashish" after logging in to get it to run.. any idea on how i can get it to run as soon as i login? [19:45] hang around a while, someone might know something i dont about console fonts [19:45] its not a font [19:46] i just want to run a program as soon as i login [19:46] firebird619, *The* internet went out? woah! *my* Internet was fine all day long. Maybe you should update your Internet.... ;) ;) [19:46] heh, my connection goes out here because the signal gets too weak. [19:46] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC038ED.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:46] add the command to ~/.bash_profile porkchop_ [19:46] oh. what kind of connection is it? [19:46] thank you [19:46] :) [19:46] porkchop_ (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-182-112.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Nintendo 64 today!" [19:47] Pig_Pen: guess he's not sticking around. :P [19:48] i'm trying to figure out where ncftpget calls bind()... [19:48] DralaFi: Cable Internet. [19:48] firebird619, is that like a co-ax cable? [19:48] oh well, cant hold people prisoner in here [19:49] nope, sure can't. [19:49] DralaFi: yes [19:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:49] firebird619, that's a bit weird... so that must cost a lot to install? and doesnt the telco have to dig up the road to get you the cable? [19:50] they probably already sell cable tv serverce.. [19:50] and often they run an ariel cable.. [19:50] depends on the city regs i guess [19:52] the cable TV wire is up on telephone poles here [19:52] rlex (n=rui@pa3-84-90-126-148.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:52] qartis (n=qartis@60.186.224.74) joined ##slackware. [19:52] that means having another cable... [19:52] ok, time to test the new batch of updates to -current [19:52] what kind of speeds does firebird619 get? [19:52] l8r :-) [19:52] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:55] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. 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[20:22] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] rlex (n=rui@pa3-84-90-126-148.netvisao.pt) left irc: Success [20:23] rob0, was looking on adding it to system [20:23] (That host is also slackbook.org and lists.slackbuilds.org and rlworkman.net, among others.) [20:23] :) [20:24] did that all go down? [20:24] Outages have happened, but they're always responsive. Yes, nothing hosted there works right now. [20:25] rob0, maybe it's a little more than routing [20:25] rob0, methinks anyways [20:25] maybe an outage? or a machine locking? [20:28] nmap is segfaulting for me ... [20:28] :D [20:28] traceroute wants to use lo [20:28] so, I think it's an upstream routing issue. [20:28] rob0, probably [20:30] proposal for new record for getting sick of a linux install...me, 2 hours, ubuntu jaunty [20:30] grabbing slack 12.2 now [20:30] you're late to the party [20:30] hahaha [20:30] welcome to slack :D [20:31] brklynRednek, is that 9.04? [20:31] NukeDukem, not late to any party...was using slamd12.2 [20:31] dartmouth, yeah, 9.04 [20:31] yeah ubuntu/kubuntu piss me off [20:31] brklynRednek: Maybe Karmic Koala will be better. :P [20:31] I'm actually tempted to go back to gentoo though :/ [20:31] DralaFi, this was 'xubuntu' [20:31] i can never figure out wth is going on in those other distros [20:31] firebird619, for me to put an m80 up its ass? [20:31] any debian or child/derivitive annoys me [20:31] brklynRednek: hahaha, [20:31] NukeDukem, how come? [20:32] ovnicraft (i=be9a3f37@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df229a7b108401fb) joined ##slackware. [20:32] firebird619, or, as triumph says, 'for me to poop on' [20:32] everything in /etc and the kernel build [20:32] haha, yeah. triumph the insult comic dog. :P [20:32] brklynRednek: what about Fedora? :D [20:33] firebird619, it's slightly better than ubuntu [20:33] you already tried OpenSuse. :P [20:33] my buddy is a gentoo [20:33] firebird619, unless you have an nvidia video card [20:33] firebird619, i've used fedora as of fc10 [20:33] opensuse bah.. anything associated with novel must suck :P [20:33] cadmium-sulfide: your buddy is a penguin? :P [20:33] he's obsesed with gentoo [20:33] moste gentoo users are obsesed with it [20:33] i guess.. [20:34] gentoo seems actually pretty neat. was impressed with emerge [20:34] brklynRednek: 11 is out now, but I love slack, so I won't be trying it. [20:34] and this whole alternative slot thingy for emerge... [20:34] cadmium-sulfide, if they weren't so resource intensive(are they sending info back to novell on a backchannel?) suse would be good [20:34] bah, cadmium-sulfide introduce him to Crux if he wants a minimal distro to customize, Crux has a better ports system than gentoo (IMO) [20:34] NukeDukem, what about arch? isn't their build system FTW? [20:34] bigcamel (n=bigcamel@cpe-098-121-133-226.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] i liked arch but arch did not like my hardware, have not tried it on my newest PC though [20:36] NukeDukem, my first linux was actually a slackware...came in a book _Linux:_Installation_and_Configuration_ by Pat [20:36] i think it was 3.5 [20:37] 2.0.33 kernel [20:37] my first distro was redhat-7.1 by the time 7.3 was released i found slackware-8.0 and been a happy slacker ever since [20:37] Mine was 3.6, zipslack. [20:37] Action: DralaFi used slack since 8.1 [20:37] my first distro was RH 7.3 [20:37] but it seems to be lacking some software :/ [20:37] I'm so far behind [20:37] rob0, yeah, my wife remembers 8.0 [20:37] My first distro was Fedora 10 :P [20:38] only about a week ago [20:38] hahaha, that was your first distro? Your quite new then eh? [20:38] Yes very [20:38] Just finished the RH033 course [20:38] Well, Welcome to Linux, more specifically, here at Slackware. [20:38] i'll be taking the rh133 soon [20:38] rob0, i remember when pat did a version jump from 4 to 7 [20:38] i've been a windows user for the last 15+ yearss [20:39] Finally decided to take the plunge into the free world [20:39] i remember buying redhat 8 cause it was cheaper than suse, and the pc i bought had no os, and no one would give me os [20:39] so figure i'll take a few classes 033, 133, and 253 to get me up to date [20:40] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [20:40] i quickly downloaded slack 8.1/9/10(forget which it was) and burned cd's [20:40] i have a few versions already [20:40] I moved to slack as I got fed up with recompiling XFree86 on suse just to have faster graphics / newer software :| [20:40] but i want to try to learn fedora/RH first [20:40] i have a retail version of windows 2000 i install on people's PCs free that refuse to use Linux, the last windows OS that does not have that product activation timebomb built in it [20:41] before I go hoping around to different distro's [20:41] NukeDukem, reactos will ALMOST work on real hardware [20:41] There are still some freely distrubuted XP enterpise keys out [20:41] NukeDukem, give them another year [20:41] that allow updates even in SP3 [20:41] if the hardware specs are good enough wine or vbox will do fine on linux [20:42] NukeDukem: Isn't that product activation just a wonderful little gem. :P [20:42] microsoft shot themself in the foot with that [20:42] yeah, they sure did. [20:42] they seem to be good at doing that. :P [20:43] i look forwared to watching the bad economy & Linux FOSS killing microsoft by a thousand tiny cuts [20:43] i'm on slackware64 and when i run rpm2cpio, it says it can't find libnss3.so. any idea why this is happening? [20:43] hi folks, can help with IRC for testdisk utility, i have problems recovering a formatted partition [20:43] i would stay away from red-hat givent its corporate nature... [20:43] i used it in the 90's and was happy.. [20:43] I was trying to get my airsnort working in F10&11 but no luck [20:44] any distro that does not offer free ISOs is something to stay away from [20:44] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: "leaving" [20:44] I like the USB distro's personally [20:44] As long as your machine supports USB booting [20:44] amazon10x libnss3 comes from seamonkey ... NFI why it would be compiled against it [20:45] does anyone here have slackware64? could you try `rpm2cpio` and see if it complains? [20:46] amazon10x_: install seamonkey [20:46] usb bootable distros are cool, i keep slax around for recovery in case i screw up i can chroot with it, [20:48] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:48] thrice`: that fixed it [20:48] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) left irc: "Leaving" [20:48] why does rpm need seamonkey? [20:48] that seems kinda weird [20:48] ask red had [20:48] i'm guessing that chroot is like chown, chgroup? [20:48] "nmap -sP 216.23.240.0/20", I'm getting segfaults. traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 127.0.0.1 @ lo [20:48] t [20:48] i booted my mac airbook with slax and it ruined the usb port... i blame the mac not slax [20:49] ruined the usb port? [20:49] have to give more details than that [20:49] rob0: your Nmap is b0rked. WFM on -current [20:49] bigcamel: only in that "ch" is short for "change". man chroot, it's very interesting [20:49] yeah its totally broken now.. [20:49] i set the airbook boot device to the usbdrive [20:49] it booted once [20:50] then booted back to osx and usb trashed.. won't recognize any thumb drive or anything [20:50] software just doesn't break hardware(normally) [20:50] thrice`, are you getting any hosts up in that range? [20:50] especially usb ports [20:51] nope; it's still trying [20:51] Are you sure your usb port isn't broken, as in damaged compents, like the metal tabs inside loose/missing? [20:51] mac hardware does not have a BIOS like x86 PCs so i guess there is nothing there to look at, unless that has changed [20:51] i think it was the airbook bios somehow fubared the usb drive when i set it to be the boot device... it worked once it was really pretty when slackware came up.. it was slackware booting from the boot cd on the cdrom now that i recal.. [20:51] every computer has a bios i think... [20:51] it has too [20:51] alabit different.. [20:51] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [20:52] my mate just told me that google is a server [20:53] lol, google is a lot more than that [20:53] google is god [20:54] they have server farms as big as boing aircraft factories [20:54] number_three (n=chatzill@69.219.228.105) left ##slackware. [20:54] R & D [20:56] boing? [20:56] boeing [20:56] maybe [20:56] hehe [20:56] yes, boeing. [20:57] and i guess those factories are massive [20:57] right. i should sleep [20:57] they build airplanes, I'm sure where they buld them would be quite large. :) [20:57] yeah, typo or just poor spelling on my part, i did install some air conditioning in a boeing plant in wichita KS that was HUGE! [20:57] no about the size of a jet [20:57] goodnight everyone and keep slackin' [20:57] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-170-203-192.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:58] NukeDukem: nice. I bet that was quite an undertaking. [20:58] thrice`: (tried nmap from this host, and) Host 216.23.248.1 appears to be up, and others beyond there. [20:58] yup, pipe run for thousands of feet, a chilled water system that used anti-freeze like in cars to keep the water from freezing [20:59] wow [20:59] rob0: hm, strange; nmap returned nothing after ~3 minutes (though didn't segfault) [20:59] Duke, my son lived in El Dorado. Actually I did too, a couple of years back in the 80's. [20:59] cadmium-sulfide (n=mike@202.174.145.186) left irc: "[BX] Hrm... I wonder if I paid this month's electr...EOF From client" [21:00] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] hi i formatted my partition with ext3 (before that partition has the same FS), now i want to recovery but i cant see files after deep search with testdisk, if you can help me with any suggest? [21:00] i know the area, Texaco has a refinery in Ed dorado, i worked for a company in wichita and another child company with an office in Andover, i live in oklahoma so kansas is my neighbor to the north [21:01] El Dorado* [21:01] ovnicraft, smart move .. u formated , now want to recover [21:01] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [21:01] I did some time in OKC, too, when working for the FAA. [21:02] DeeeeP: stupid error [21:02] ovnicraft: If you formated the partition you wanted to recover. You probably aren't going to have any luck recovering anything. You can pretty much say goodbye to whatever you had on there. [21:02] s/formated/formatted/ [21:02] i've seen some undelete tools for ext3 , but that was all [21:02] firebird619: i have my life in that partition [21:02] DeeeeP: Yeah, testdisk is one of them like he's using. [21:03] ovnicraft: Well, unfortunately, your life may be gone now [21:03] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [21:03] ovnicraft, if u had or life in there u should had backups of it [21:03] the closest i lived to OKC was in Choctaw okla, i did work in OKC a lot though [21:03] DeeeeP: should, but probably doesn't. [21:04] bad move [21:04] now cry [21:04] :) [21:04] ovnicraft: It's a very slim chance you can recover anything. [21:04] Action: brklynRednek keeps a fat32 backup of his data...learned his lesson [21:05] brklynRednek: and what a tough lesson that is to learn. [21:05] firebird619, yeah [21:05] i'm about to install debian. wish me luck guys [21:05] firebird619, i not only lost an expensive music collection, but several tracks of original work and some family photos [21:05] the family photos were the deepest injury [21:05] good luck.. [21:06] brklynRednek: yeah, photos are the worst to lose, many of them you *can't* get back. [21:06] firebird619, exactly [21:06] firebird619, the tracks were halfway ok [21:06] I have 24.2 GB of photos on my hdd right now, they are all backed up to another hdd as well as dvd's. [21:06] firebird619, and it hurt to lose weeks of work [21:06] Action: ovnicraft is going to die [21:07] one time for a christmas present to many family members i got out mom's old family photos and spent a week scanning over 2000 photos and burnt them to many CDRs and gave them all to family members, some of the photos go back over 100 years [21:07] ovnicraft: you're pretty much up a creek without a paddle now, sorry. [21:07] ovnicraft, your last call , would be try those companys that say they recover , u can pay maybe up to 500 euros [21:07] DeeeeP: those places are expensive. [21:08] ovnicraft, dd if=/dev/(hd) of=/dev/backup-drive [21:08] then dig through the data that's left, bit by bit [21:08] they thought that was cool, because if those photos disapeared there is no way to replace them so this way now there are several digital copies spread out to several family members [21:08] ovnicraft: yeah, if you really really want it back, get a data recovery pro to look at it [21:08] yeah firebird619 , but could save his ass [21:08] DeeeeP: possibly, yeah. [21:09] NukeDukem: that's an awesome idea. [21:09] qartis (n=qartis@60.186.224.74) left ##slackware. [21:09] With family photos I have here, I scanned them all and they are on CD's. Too many things could happen to the originals, which can't be replaced. [21:10] CDS are not a good way or storing [21:10] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:10] they have a limited lifetime [21:10] bad brand, worse [21:11] but now they can be copied to as many harddrives as you want, and more CDs, printed, etc,,, whatever you want [21:11] i hope u have some backup-backup copies , firebird619 [21:11] NukeDukem: exactly. [21:11] DeeeeP: of course. [21:11] ok then [21:11] before there was only the one original copy that was getting old [21:11] NukeDukem: yeah, they get wore out, bent, stained, etc. [21:12] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [21:12] most of the photos date from the 1940s thru the 1970's and a few go back to the 1890s [21:13] everything wears out and gets old, including me! :D [21:13] haha [21:13] sure :) [21:13] bigcamel (n=bigcamel@cpe-098-121-133-226.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] NukeDukem: do you have a backup of yourself? :P [21:13] i wish [21:13] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [21:13] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [21:14] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:14] rosh_ (n=roshl@e176081148.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:15] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Is there an estimate date for the 13 version? [21:20] asarch: when it's done of janucember. :) [21:20] asarch: when it's ready [21:20] i can kiss testdisk team ass, i recovery my data!! [21:20] lol :-D [21:20] Ok. Let's wait [21:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] ovnicraft: Why did you format it if you needed the data on it? [21:20] asarch: btw, that is the official answer according to slackware.com - general faq - #5 ;) [21:21] Oh [21:21] ovnicraft, just tell us how [21:22] testdisk, advanced options, select type 83 after that begin to read the disk appears the old partition [21:22] Then let's wait [21:22] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Action: asarch is doing the Slackware's page his home page [21:22] choose boot then rebuildFS [21:22] wtf! why cant a 1.3 gig mpg video file not fit on a 4.7 DVD blank! [21:22] wait, version 13 is coming up? i figured there'd be a 12.3 or something [21:22] then go to analise and write the tables [21:22] asarch, why the rush on 13 ? [21:23] I want to use my brand new printer: HP F4280 [21:23] amazon10x_: how'd you "figure" that? [21:23] It doesn't work with 12.2 :'-( [21:23] nevermind, i fixed it [21:23] because 12.2 + 0.1 = 12.3 :) [21:23] Action: ovnicraft is with parted magic, booting for slackware :-) [21:23] ovnicraft (i=be9a3f37@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df229a7b108401fb) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [21:23] amazon10x_: why do you assume it's got to be a + 0.1 ? [21:24] i dunno. i'm not sure what it is that determines a point release vs a full release [21:25] here's what my xorg build says on -current: [21:25] Build Operating System: Slackware 13.0 Slackware Linux Project [21:26] cool [21:27] amazon10x_: Slackware is Patrick Volkerdings baby, better let him name & version it [21:27] is moving to the next number an arbitrary decision? or is it based on the kernel or xorg or something [21:28] what do you mean? [21:28] i mean, did pat just say "feels like a good time to move to version 13 now" or is there some rule he has for when to do that [21:29] e.g., 5 kernel releases or something [21:29] yea seriously cause [21:29] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [21:29] how high can a software version go? [21:29] slackware 34 ? [21:29] i am sure there is a method to his madness ;p [21:29] emacs is pretty high, isn't it? [21:29] 22 or something? [21:29] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:29] either way, we can all admit [21:29] slackware is the sexiest of all LINUX distros [21:30] jeev: agreed. :) [21:30] actually i am not a fanboy of any one particular text editor, it depends on what i am editing will determine what i use [21:30] jeev: There's no such thing as LINUX. [21:31] linux, whatever [21:31] Gnu/Linux. [21:31] there is only... GNU/LINUX [21:31] same shit [21:31] lol [21:31] sometimes i use Midnight Commander's mcedit, sometimes elvis, sometimes kwrite, i used to like Nedit but it has fallen to neglect and has not been updated in ages [21:31] Action: sajes slaps amazon10x_ and jeev with rms. [21:31] there is only... GNU/KDE/XORG/LINUX [21:31] Action: jeev swings his cock and knocks sajes off balance into a shark infested lagoon [21:32] hahahahaha [21:32] amazon10x_: It's not all capitalized. That's why I said LINUX doesn't exist. [21:32] jeev: Pics or it never happened. [21:32] sajes, ##slackware is not case sensitive [21:32] sajes, look in the mirror, you could see the impression on your face! [21:32] whether he capitalized linux or not, I'm sure you knew what he meant. :) [21:33] jeev: OH REALLY? SO YOU DON'T MIND IF I KEEP CAPS LOCK ON THEN? [21:33] Action: jeev smacks sajes [21:33] turn off your caps [21:33] jeev: You just said it wasn't capital sensitive. [21:33] for a 5 char term [21:33] s/capital/case/ [21:33] Either it is or it isn't. [21:34] SaJeS, sToP FlOoDiNg The ChAnNElE WitH CApsS [21:34] jeev: And I'm still lacking a picture. [21:35] I hate it when people brag about the size of their junk and are too bashful to prove it. :o [21:36] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [21:36] wtf [21:36] Meh. Cool looking guitar straps are hard to come by. [21:36] first of all, it was an exaggeration [21:36] second of all, you shouldn't be asking to see pics of my wang [21:36] Nick change: midnight_sun -> trunks [21:36] jeev: I should be if you're bragging about it. [21:37] Nick change: trunks -> veditta [21:37] sajes, i wouldn't want it to disappoint your choi [21:37] ...you guys are weird <_< [21:38] amazon10x_: Why is that weird? You brag, you show. [21:39] wow [21:39] sajes, are you craving penix tonight ? [21:39] that would be quite funny though if jeev puts up an imageshack link and someone clicks on it to see his junk [21:39] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.115.141) joined ##slackware. [21:39] jeev: No. I'm straight, and if I wanted to see just any penis, I'd use google. I want proof that a penis that can cocksmack me so hard I'd fall down exists. [21:40] amazon10x_, looks like sajes wants to see it [21:40] rosh_ (n=roshl@e176081148.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [21:40] sajes: well, i think that the smacking ability would be based more on the core body and the hips maybe [21:40] amazon10x_: If it's small enough I can dodge, not at all. [21:41] sajes, what if it's 1/2" but i can swing fast enough where it expands? [21:41] heat and built up energy [21:41] like the sr71 blackbird's titanium [21:41] jeev: Then you have a problem and you should get it checked out by a doctor. [21:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [21:42] but it looks like you want to check it out firt [21:42] first [21:42] Not to mention it'd scorch it to nothing if you went that fast. [21:43] alright, you guys are scaring the visitors; get a room :P [21:43] Or fall off completely. [21:43] amazon10x_: The conversation is moot anyways. He's not going to prove it. ;) [21:44] Now, back to trying to find a tye-dye guitar strap. [21:44] he hasn't said anything for a second. maybe he's taking a picture [21:44] Action: amazon10x_ turns off auto url opening [21:44] unfortunately my camera doesn't support a 15 second timer [21:44] amazon10x_: Or giving 4chan a visit. [21:44] for me to run far back enough for it to catch my entire manliness [21:44] it's too long.. sorry [21:44] haha [21:44] More bragging? [21:45] sajes, if you keep me going you're going to make me feel semi-homosexula [21:45] sexual [21:45] sooooo nice weather today huh [21:45] jeev: Something wrong with that? [21:45] amazon10x_, great weather to knock someone into a lagoon full of sharks with an elongated penis [21:45] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.145.160) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [21:45] i'm about to use this unetbootin thing. i hope it works [21:46] amazon10x_: Probably won't. [21:46] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.35.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:47] what is unetbootin [21:47] I've never gotten unetbootin to work properly for me. [21:47] darnit [21:47] jeev: turns an iso into usb via magic [21:48] oh cool [21:50] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:50] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: "Reconnecting" [21:51] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [21:51] disconnections are epic. [21:53] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:53] that's what happens when you want pics of other mens penis [21:53] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] No, that's what happens when you use hughesnet. [21:58] where do you live [21:58] In the sphincter of michigan. [21:58] lol [21:58] how's it there [21:58] constricted! [21:59] where is sphincter ? [21:59] thrice`: A little south of rectum. [21:59] Detroit, would be my guess. Yes, sounds right. [21:59] ditto [21:59] Two hours northeast of detroit. [21:59] I'm closer to sagnasty. [21:59] motown [22:00] ... It took me four days to hitchhike to Saginaw ... [22:00] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] rob0: Where are you at? [22:01] um ... Arkansas, actually :) [22:01] I"m in grand rapids [22:01] where at in Arkansas? [22:01] Well no wonder it took you so long to get to sagnasty. [22:01] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.70.151) joined ##slackware. [22:01] though, after your request to see jeev's penis, I won't discuss further than that [22:01] searcy [22:02] northeast of LR [22:02] thrice`: If you don't brag about your penis, you won't have any problems. :\ [22:02] i been through Arkansas many times on I-40 [22:03] yeah, I travel the east side of I-40 a lot, have done the west part only twice. [22:03] Forrest City is my favorite beer stop, they have cheap beer :) [22:03] _juan (n=juan@200.84.127.58) joined ##slackware. [22:04] damn this silly dry county! [22:04] :( [22:04] alright unetbootin just finished. booting now. [22:04] you can thank all those redneck jesus freaks for that law [22:05] disk error press any key to restart. darnit [22:05] oh my, this place is rampant with them [22:05] same with this place, (oklahoma) [22:06] yes, and Kansas somewhat [22:06] NukeDukem: what law? [22:06] dry countys (no booze) [22:06] ohhh [22:06] Kansas used to be really insane, but then they went to county-option rules [22:07] they don't allow alcohol to be sold in the county? that's odd [22:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.70.151) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] (right in the midst of the anti-drunk-driving crusade in fact) [22:07] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [22:07] yeah, I'm in a dry county in Arkansas [22:07] (and I am drinking beer!) [22:07] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] NukeDukem: why is it so windy in kansas? texas blows, nebraska sucks ;) [22:08] aww [22:08] :) [22:08] I live in nebraska [22:08] the idea of the usa being a free country is made null by crazy religious laws (the idea of separation of church & state if a farce in some places) [22:08] but yes, i tdoes suck. [22:08] dhw, then you know it's true ;) [22:08] :) [22:08] i been through nebraska many times on I-80 [22:08] nothing here really =/ [22:09] you guys gotta get out of the dillholes of america and move to california [22:09] 1 [22:09] lots of corn & wheat fields [22:09] dhw: just a joke, replace nebraska with north dakota if you wish [22:09] !! [22:09] lol [22:09] california: the land of fruits and nuts [22:09] ogolala [22:09] I have lived in cali before [22:09] me too, but never again [22:09] liked that much more then nebraska [22:10] jota- (i=1000@190.6.6.247) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] it's yanni time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79esEAO7kk [22:10] anyone in here use/used gentoo? [22:11] I have in the past [22:11] how does it compair to slackware? [22:11] it's something I am more common with [22:11] that's kind of a dumb question [22:11] apples & oranges [22:11] gentoo is source based, slackware is binary [22:11] i prefer slackware [22:11] what happened to sajes, he was so wanting pics of my testicular region [22:12] well I am am talking on the base level [22:12] I know how gentoo is setup [22:12] i tried gentoo, too much work for too little benefit [22:12] dhw, i think the fact that we're here is enough for us to say there isn't a comparison [22:12] and how the package system is different [22:12] bigcamel (n=bigcamel@cpe-098-121-133-226.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] why is jeev always talking about genitalia? [22:12] there are alot of ways to which it is different [22:12] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [22:12] Always a topic popping up? [22:13] Anybody have some Kismet experience? [22:13] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] I cannot seem to find a solution to my problem.... [22:13] I am not trying to saying is one better then the other, just was wondering if there was any similarities at all [22:13] I use kismet often [22:13] Well I would like to as well [22:13] dhw: sure, they both use the linux kernel :) [22:13] i use it to check the signal of a wifi network i want to crack [22:13] I know there are alot of networks around my area [22:14] Well I'm getting this error trying to start up kismet [22:14] FATAL: Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, unlink() failed: Permission denied [22:14] well glad to know that [22:14] umm, they both use the same software, except for package management [22:14] are you running it as root ? [22:14] I've changed permissions to that dir [22:14] bigcamel: did you configure kismet properly, with a user? [22:14] and yes running as root [22:14] i've read all the how to [22:14] and read me [22:14] and did all the proper steps [22:14] i normally don't ask for help, until i exahust research on my own first [22:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [22:15] i like to try to troubleshoot things on my own first [22:15] we're t he opposite, i ask first then research and by the time people are insulting me, i've figured it out [22:15] lol [22:15] i like the sense of accomplishment of self learning [22:15] jeev, people are ALWAYS insulting you! [22:15] and or research [22:15] pastebin your kismet.conf [22:15] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-83.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] and can you show us ls -alh /var/run [22:16] rob0, seriously. [22:16] i'll get it all posted, stand by [22:16] dhw: the biggest difference is package management. gentoo resolves dependencies, and compiles everything for you. slackware does not resolve dependencies, and provides packages for you. gentoo has a bloate^W "complete" repository with ugly scripts, slackware users create packages with their own scripts (on slackbuilds.org, for example). [22:16] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Linux slack 2.6.29.4 #3 SMP Fri May 29 13:56:50 CDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [22:16] SEXY [22:17] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.168.72) joined ##slackware. [22:17] that's my non-virtual box. dedicated sex system [22:17] 2.6.30 is out noob [22:17] lol [22:18] thank you thrice` [22:18] i actually just built 2.6.30 [22:19] a lot of updates, bbiab [22:19] on this computer [22:19] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Client Quit [22:19] sooooo much better thanb 2.6.29. i don't know how i could stand living in the dark, musty world of .29 [22:19] I am thinking about installing slackware on my main computer [22:19] Linux XXX 2.6.30-XXX #4 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jun 12 15:21:20 PDT 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [22:19] there are a ton of updates on 64-current right now [22:19] nooobs [22:19] i have no reason to build 2.6.30 [22:20] raptor raid drives and nvidia pci-e video cards [22:20] I suppose I would have to dual boot [22:20] dhw: those are on your main computer? [22:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] jeev: yeah that's convenient for a noob to say, especially for a noob who calls their system a sex system [22:20] if the 2.4.xx kernel would support my wifi card on this old laptop i would have install slackware-11 [22:20] yes, too true antiwire [22:20] yeah [22:20] lol [22:20] haha [22:20] it's a newer computer [22:21] but yet outdated already [22:21] and sli was not really worth the effort [22:21] you lame turds [22:21] i bet you think i cant build my own kernel [22:22] why not? [22:22] man, so i go to kernel to download it and wee, 600kb/s cause it's on DSL, of course my charter route died again [22:22] i always set charter as my default gateway, i come back next day and my failover script put dsl again [22:22] dhw, cause they smell [22:23] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:23] bad? [22:23] yea, like rotten vagina [22:23] why is 600 kb/s bad? the kernel is tiny [22:23] i have logs of when the route is switched lol, charter. [22:24] thrice`, charter gets 20meg whne i'm lucky [22:24] http://pastebin.com/d2b5f539c [22:24] oh damn...yeah, that 15 seconds is epic [22:24] thrice`, what do you know about life [22:24] time is monies [22:25] well, since 2.6.30 was out A LONG time ago, you've had plenty of time [22:25] bigcamel: does testuser1 actually exist? [22:25] what window manager does everyone use? [22:25] srsly [22:25] yes [22:25] i've even changed it to root, and other users [22:25] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [22:25] still no luck [22:25] hexoroid (n=duhblow@173-29-231-198.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:25] bigcamel: cd into testuser1's home directory and try to run kismet again [22:26] ERROR: Reading config file '/etc/kismet/kismet.conf': 13 (Permission denied) [22:26] bigcamel: running it as root? [22:27] what OS is that? [22:27] running as testuser1 [22:27] running as root i get the other error [22:27] as root, just cd /home/testuser1 && kismet [22:27] could it be some policykit stuff that's preventing it? [22:27] i need to publish my failover script [22:27] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left ##slackware. [22:27] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] maybe my laptop is a better install choice [22:28] FATAL: Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, unlink() failed: Permission denied [22:28] tho, if I remember right that's more of a pain to install on [22:28] ok [22:28] bigcamel: are you running slackware? [22:28] sidmario (n=xxx@201-92-115-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:28] Fedora 11 [22:28] ... [22:28] lol [22:28] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.176.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:28] it's probably some policykit stuff that prevents it [22:29] and since a) you're on fedora, and b) slackware doesn't use the *kit crap, you're on your own [22:29] why are you asking us about this if you're running Fedora? Don't you think you'd get answers that are more applicable if you asked fedora people about this? [22:29] Fedora 11?!? WTF are you doing here? [22:29] I just starting learning linux all of about 5 days ago [22:29] dhw: i think setting up slack on a desktop is easier; way less power saving stuff to deal with [22:30] bigcamel: you should be in #fedora [22:30] Did you even look at the channel name before you joined it? [22:30] the kismet builds from SBo work fine under Slackware so you need to take this up with people who know more about fedora [22:30] I was in the Fedora channel, nobody willing to help [22:30] Did you try #kismet ? [22:30] did you try linuxquestions.org ? [22:30] same thing [22:30] nobody even responded in kismet channel [22:30] or google? [22:30] sidmario (n=xxx@201-93-242-75.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:30] you need to be patient [22:31] dragorn or someone else [22:31] will respond [22:31] As thrice` pointed out, it's quite likely that you have a Fedora-specific issue. [22:31] you can normally find an answer with google some where [22:31] Nick change: sidmario -> Guest32377 [22:31] I tried searching around with kismet and that error, and found alot of the same issues [22:31] Just no solutions [22:31] But yes I can see the SELinux thing preventing that running [22:32] *sigh* [22:32] well, on slackware, it would "just work", since there aren't layers of restrictions to troubleshoot [22:32] Just have to figure out how to get that disabled [22:32] slackware is sexy [22:32] I'm learning here.... [22:32] Haven't even touched linux for more than 5 days now [22:33] And i'm sorry to offend the Slackware users [22:33] I have been looking at slackware because I have been rather annoyed with mythbuntu [22:33] you can learn here, but asking "why does policykit, devicekit, SElinux, or other silly red hat inventions break my fedora install" is not a good question to ask [22:33] I like it, but I hate it. [22:33] lol [22:33] Dominian (n=dominian@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] only like it due to the amount of work to setup mythtv [22:33] once I went in and tried to change and customize things, ugh. [22:34] not everything starts up the same way [22:35] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [22:35] cake [22:35] I don't mind reading and setting up config files [22:35] brb [22:36] jeev: did you just build 2.6.30? [22:36] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] im building it damnit [22:36] man, this 250MB is taking a heck of a long time to transfer to this usb drive [22:36] i have upgrade-all and building going at the same time [22:36] as soon as you finish listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvJH_POzxmc&feature=related i will be done too [22:37] wtf, your sexy box shoudl take less than 10 seconds for a kernel [22:37] jeev: with that quadcore machine it should be done in seconds, right? [22:37] i dunno [22:37] yeah, what a joke [22:37] i'm building everything [22:37] jeev: do you have multiple boxes? [22:37] because you could use distcc [22:37] amazon10x_, sure [22:37] i have 3 slackware boxen [22:37] i used it just today to build a kernel. it was awesome [22:37] 2 real, 1 virtualbox [22:37] do you -j? [22:37] are you using multiple make jobs with your kernel builds? [22:38] make -j9 all && make modules_install :) [22:38] I do, for my dual core I use -j3 [22:38] really? heh i dont use -j [22:38] i guess i should mebbe. [22:38] bad jeev [22:38] you have to install a little daemon and then you just do `pump make -jX` and it'll send out jobs to all your nodes [22:38] chess (n=chess@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] rworkman (n=rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] for a quad core i'd try -j5 or -j6 [22:38] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] JOIN flood from @cardinal.lizella.net! Banning. [22:38] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:41] thrice` (n=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [22:41] ok [22:41] well your correct [22:41] as you know that before [22:41] F11 and kismet are a PITA [22:42] why are you using fedora ? [22:42] that stupid SEL prevents everything [22:42] I'm taking RH classes [22:42] ut oh [22:42] wow did slackboy freak out? [22:42] So i was just sticking with they were teaching as RHEL and Fedora are somewhat alike [22:42] bigcamel, msg me the IP's of the servers you will admin in the future for hax0ring attempts [22:43] I'll get right on that :P [22:43] great, singing neighbor who sucks at singing is singing. [22:43] lol [22:43] So basiclly to run kismet alot easier DL slackware [22:43] And solve my problems [22:44] antiwire, what do you think when they peep through your window and see you touching yourself while talking in ##slackware [22:44] without all the layer security [22:44] how do you think they feel [22:44] jeev: I have sun blinds on my windows [22:44] sucka [22:44] holy moly [22:44] kernel done [22:45] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:46] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [22:46] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [22:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:48] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.72) joined ##slackware. [22:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:49] bigcamel (n=bigcamel@cpe-098-121-133-226.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:49] there is no ETA on slackware 13 is there? [22:50] nope. it's getting pretty close, I'd guess, but there is never a sure-date / schedule [22:50] dhw : take the release date of the last one. add 8 months. arrive at a vague guesstimate [22:51] And pray to Bob! [22:51] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [22:52] firebird619: is duke nukem working yet? [22:52] dchmelik (i=1000@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:52] antiwire: no, not yet. [22:53] lol [22:53] woops. [22:53] antiwire: I'm just doing some updates from slackbuilds.org and then I was going to mess with it some more in hopes to get it working. [22:54] firebird619, hey [22:54] Hey brklynRednek [22:54] firebird619, having fun yet? [22:54] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:54] having fun all the time. :) [22:55] which is the name of the software or livecd for managing partitions? [22:55] gparted [22:55] heh, nice. The slackbuilds.org updates are done, a few failed, but done none the less. [22:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:55] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] brklynRednek: you see the new ardour version on SBo? 2.8 now. [22:57] firebird619, no, haven't seen it [22:57] dchmelik (i=1000@dynamic-66-243-234-92.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] anTraxc (n=gts@189-041-12-113.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:59] Hmm, qemu and transcode failed the update. Even more stuff to look into. YAY. :) [23:00] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:00] qemu hasn't been updated recently :( [23:01] i'll make it a point to work on it [23:01] firebird619, tried virtualbox? [23:02] brklynRednek: Oh yeah. [23:02] I had just been messing with qemu lately. [23:02] thrice`: yeah, I got a tad behind. :( [23:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] When was the last qemu update on SBo? [23:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:03] month ago, maybe [23:03] Oh man. I didn't think I was THAT behind. [23:03] Action: firebird619 fails [23:03] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] y0 Rat409 [23:04] yo firebird619 how you doing? [23:04] May 19th [23:04] Rat409: doing alright, thanks. yourself? [23:04] good thanks [23:04] Rat409: you don't by chance have that font link you gave me still do you? I know it's in my logs and bookmarked, but I can't find it in either. :( [23:05] thrice`: yikes. [23:05] think so let me look [23:05] and, typically qemu fails when you build using "su" instead of "su -" [23:07] firebird619: this one ?? http://vcn.bc.ca/~dugan/setting-up-slackware.html [23:08] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:08] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:08] Ugh, my connection sucks today. [23:08] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [23:08] mine too constant disconnects [23:09] mine usually is pretty good, but today it's been horrible [23:09] weird weather today seems to affect dsl [23:09] I'm on cable, but weather still sometimes affects it. [23:09] yuh [23:11] gypsydawg (n=gypsydaw@71.197.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [23:14] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Linux slack 2.6.30 #2 SMP Sat Jun 13 20:10:00 PDT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [23:14] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] i dunno why it oesn't load ext3 as module, maybe i have to play with modules file [23:14] oh well [23:15] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:16] <_alisonken1churc> jeev_: was it compiled as a modular kernel or was it compiled static? [23:16] Nick change: veditta -> vegeta [23:17] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:17] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [23:17] it was default .config from 64-current, it shows modular [23:18] http://uploading.com/files/CQSCG6BC/demo1.dmo.html [23:18] better attempt [23:19] a new demo? :) [23:20] I want to see a demo with good graphics and music [23:20] Nick change: vegeta -> rolls [23:20] antiwire: after eduke32 update, I get this: The configuration file "eduke32.cfg" was not found. Import configuration data from "duke3d.cfg"? You think that is part of my errors? I click yes. but I still get each time I start eduke32. [23:21] think i found the net problem san fran to tokyo is down [23:23] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-130-123.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.31.66) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:23] Nick change: rolls -> dennis_ritchie [23:23] i0d[R] (n=i0d[R]@187.40.64.75) joined ##slackware. [23:24] antiwire: Hmm, I think I may have found the culprit: Failure setting video mode 1152x864x32 windowed! Attempting safer mode.Setting video mode 1152x864 (32-bpp windowed) Unable to set video mode! [23:24] Nick change: dennis_ritchie -> vegeta [23:24] I get that no matter what video mode I choose. [23:24] and then it subsequently segfaults [23:26] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14574 [23:26] dunno [23:26] firebird619: actually, that paste i just was pointless [23:26] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14576 [23:27] zsh? [23:27] alternative to bash [23:27] zsh is the shell I use. [23:27] Is that the shell you were using before? [23:27] yeah [23:27] Neseth (n=neseth@wikipedia/neseth) joined ##slackware. [23:28] k [23:28] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] the above link I posted is what I get when running it now. I don't know what would have caused the video mode to all of a sudden fail. [23:29] Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to with your package mess [23:29] :( [23:29] d0zX (i=wee@117.200.51.148) joined ##slackware. [23:29] are you absolutely certain that your packages are all proper now? [23:30] 100% certain that you have no old packages still installed, all upgraded packages are upgraded and all new ones added? [23:30] I think they all are, yes. That package mess I had before was on the vm, this is my hdd install. [23:30] ok [23:30] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:31] heh, fortune: If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? [23:31] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:31] K-Shadow (i=k-shadow@the-compiler.org) joined ##slackware. [23:31] firebird619: did you reinstall the HRP too? [23:32] yeah [23:33] what video drivers are you using? [23:33] nvidia from SBo. [23:33] and your xorg.conf is setup to use it still right [23:34] yeah [23:34] te (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [23:34] i0d[R] (n=i0d[R]@187.40.64.75) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering' [23:34] KDE4's desktop effects won't work either, think I should try rebuilding the video drivers? [23:34] yeah [23:35] what does that glxinfo command tell you? [23:35] Error: glXCreateContext failed [23:35] that's not good [23:35] ! [23:35] rebuild! [23:35] lol [23:35] will do. [23:35] lw0x15: you find this funny? :P [23:35] lol [23:36] lw0x15: do you have eduke32? [23:36] definately [23:36] no i dont [23:36] damn [23:36] Nick change: firebird619 -> failbird619 [23:36] :( [23:36] ololo [23:36] I want to see if we can make network play over the internet work [23:36] it's UDP so I think not [23:36] oh great, now you're laughing so hard you can't even spell. [23:36] :P [23:37] lw0x15: ^^ [23:37] you do what you gotta do [23:37] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] chuckstudios (n=chuckstu@cpe-024-163-120-076.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:40] te (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:41] failbird619: are you down to see if net play over the internet works when you get it going again? [23:41] I'll try to serve and you connect [23:42] anyone else have eduke32? [23:42] the latest SBo version [23:42] antiwire: yeah [23:43] d0zX (i=wee@117.200.51.148) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] hi [23:46] hi [23:47] hi [23:47] hi [23:47] [23:47] ? :P [23:47] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [23:47] ha-ha, what's with the nick change, failbird619? I must have missed something:) [23:48] I fail. :( [23:48] eduke32 won't work. I'm rebuilding the nvidia drivers now. [23:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:48] btw, hello hitest, how are you? :P [23:48] I'm got a game server waiting for a 2 player game [23:48] COME ON [23:48] i've* [23:49] I am fine failbird619, ty:) [23:49] Oh don't shout, hold your horses. :P [23:50] k, drivers rebuilt and installed. brb [23:50] failbird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Good Bye" [23:50] guys i have 12.2 with xfce.....after fglrx driver when i do logout or restart my system freeze [23:50] any help? [23:50] fglrx is a very bad driver [23:50] nheco (n=nheco@189.74.199.203) joined ##slackware. [23:51] a lot of people have problems with [23:51] Thom1, i know but i want 1280x800 resolution [23:52] try the radeon driver [23:52] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:52] WOOOOOOOOOOOOT, it works now. :D [23:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [23:53] sweet [23:53] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:53] check out that demo file! [23:53] WOOO [23:53] me pokes Camarade_Tux [23:53] antiwire: the second one? could you paste the link again? [23:53] http://uploading.com/files/CQSCG6BC/demo1.dmo.html [23:54] k, thanks [23:54] just download it and throw it in ~/.eduke32 and then run the game [23:54] it will play [23:54] firebird619: wb:) nicely done. [23:54] :) thanks. [23:54] I rape E1L1 in it [23:54] orly? :P [23:54] hey firebird619 :) [23:54] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] Hey Camarade_Tux, how goes it? [23:55] firebird619, probably quite well since it's not 6am yet and I'm already awake ;) [23:55] you ? [23:55] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:55] doing good, thanks. [23:55] sidmario_ (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:56] now my kde4 effects should work too. :) [23:56] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [23:57] chuckstudios (n=chuckstu@cpe-024-163-120-076.nc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [23:57] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Sun Jun 14 2009